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PSA: 'Vulcan Hello' and 'Biff' aren't here!

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01:48 min | 1 year ago

PSA: 'Vulcan Hello' and 'Biff' aren't here!

"Hello dear friends. This is Jason Snell. And if you're hearing in this year a subscriber to the main TV feed. I realized that we moved a couple of shows and didn't give you a warning so first off if you are looking for the flash cast for Star Trek Picard with me and Scott McNulty. Yes we are doing them but we moved. Because there's a lot of new star trek coming including colluding third season of discovery and this season Picard and lower decks and other stuff we made a new podcast feed. If you were subscribed to the discovery feed. You got moved over to the Volkan. Hello feed but if you subscribe to this main TV feed you weren't so go to the incomparable dot com slash Volkan. Hello or just searching in your podcast APP for Volkan. Hello and you will find the new Vulcan. Hello podcast feed. There are four episodes in their three short tracks and episode one card. And you can listen to that. Also if if you've been wondering why the speedy aero cast boys are not in this feed. That's because they did the same thing they have a new show called biff and and it covers other superhero shows especially since Arrow is about to end. So go to the incomparable dot com slash biff and subscribe there or search for Biff. There's probably no other. PODCAST is named biff on your podcast player of choice. Anyway thank you sorry for the interruption in the speed but I know some of you only know of us from what you hear in your podcast player. Sure so I am sending you this secret message. Thank you for listening Ah.

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Ep 394 - Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal by Christopher Moore (Bonus Episode)

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1:01:30 hr | 1 year ago

Ep 394 - Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal by Christopher Moore (Bonus Episode)

"This is a head Gum podcast while Andrew and Craig believe the joy of discovery is crucial to enjoying any well told tale. They will not shy away. From spoiling specific story beats when necessary. Plus these are books you should have read by now Uh Overdue. It's a podcast about the books you've been meaning to read my name. Is Craig Names Andrew. Welcome welcome to our December bonus episode That we are here. Recording live ish on Youtube Google is live is live for the for the people watching. It's not live for the people listening later and it is our are patriots bonus episode. So so we've got some patrons joining us in the chat we've got Some patrons who will get to listen a little bit early And the rest of you if you're or not one that's totally cool. You can listen to this. Whatever the heck you're listening to this Andrew each week on the show or whenever the heck we make them one of us read the Book and tells the other one. What about it what did you read? I read Lamb Colon. The Gospel according to Biff by Christopher more okay the the full title on the pay on the cover pages the gospel. According to biff Christ's childhood pal all right and so this is Jesus Christ raced. Oh Jesus Christ yeah except in his in. This book is named Joshua which I didn't do a whole lot of research because I finished this book. Look like an hour ago and then I had to put my son to bed so not on a lot of background research on this one. But I don't know if Jesus is originally Joshua or if that's just I've heard I've heard Yeshua before he's also referred to as Isa Islam. Okay let me. He's got a couple of different names but it's Do in the chat joining us is the patron who recommended it Hannah and Hannah said I read this many years ago but I still remember this as one of the funniest books I've ever read. The story is told by Christ's best friend when they were young time period. We usually never hear about I am. I'm not religious but my father almost became a priest in his youth and we both found the story hilarious but also containing moments of inciteful wisdom. Check out the good reviews for more of an idea. The of what. This book is about I did do that. Andrew did you get a better idea of what the book is about. I got a better idea of what we might end up talking about. `Bout Jamie gave the book four stars and said I will definitely pick up another Christopher more book when I'm in need of an intelligently silly read as ask for lamb it is full of Raunchy humor and Biblical events what more could you ask for humor and Biblical Lynn gave. But for now I want like a horny Noah's ark where I mean everybody's on the boat too. That's pretty horny. Yeah it's just a a big sex boat it is. That's the implication. It's a big animal like sex apocalypse. Boat because of the flood it. Yeah and everybody would have all this. Like built up survivors harness which is definitely. I think that's the semper Fi. The Earth is flooded and their basements Spencer flooded so lynn gave her stars and said this book is funny as Hell. Jonathan gave it one star and is relying on the whole thing. Somebody said I'm considering taking down this review of not happy that my most liked review is a negative one. It's too easy to earn praise by casting stones. A book recommendation that I suffered through not for charges of blasphemy. But for style. I can't stand this type of comedic writing with it's obvious setups zingers and formulaic relevance. Douglas Adams Wannabe. This type of humor gets enough time between news items on. NPR's all things considered big slam on MPR VIG BAGASSE NPR dunk. hunk there No I'm just talking to chat real quick. No I will not put the crown on behind me. That was Laura's whereas crown when we did Charlie Brown and the girl with the with the hair and so you can't I can't you can't put it on your ground. Yeah we start. Mike Grimm So what did you get. You wouldn't dance did you. Do I forget the name of the dance. You did that really good dance on the camera. At that time I was. I was wasn't is at skulking. No did skunk. I did use gang. That's actually what it's called isn't it. It's what's going anyway. Christopher Moore is an author he was. He's in Ohio. Born boy. Andrew this school nineteen fifty seven. He's he's a Buckeye you went to. Osu your mom would be proud I tell you what you'll have to have gone to be really into the bucks. uh-huh go box scarlet and grey. I think his first novel was published in Nineteen ninety-two he has since published Bush like sixteen. I guess that's all he does sits around rights and also Per His website like most good novelists he he's had a number of jobs. He has worked as a Roofer. A grocery clerk a hotel night auditor. An insurance broker. A waiter of photographer prefer he did go to photography school and a rock and roll. Dj Her. I'm not sure you could just be any kind of DJ right you know like a roller rink. Dj Or radio he'll rock and roll DJ. You specifying a specific genre. It's fine to find tests to say it like that I don't know from. Dj's He has had a lot of success in kind of comedic genre fiction A lot of his courting to his website a lot of his books have been optioned but he says nut quote. Nothing is in any danger of being made which is an interesting way. Wait career I mean. I guess at least if they've been optioned he's gone some money out of it right like that's why I think so. Yeah some people bought some rights and nothing ever happens So this is like one of the he does do a lot of research for some of his books And this is one you know writing about Jesus that he clearly did a lot of of Talk there's a little afterward with him just talking about having written the book and and yeah he does have a teed acknowledges which is up front that like there is no limit to how far down this rabbit hole. You can go if you sure sure. So you know He. He didn't do that but he does seem to have a pretty the firm grounding in at least the The four books of the Bible that Jesus is actually in which is is that a Matthew Maher Lucan John Luke and John Right yeah Yeah so he has a couple of interviews on his website including a few with CNN and Christianity. Today and book sense that I kind of pulled a couple like major facts from he did do some travel of Israel where he toured the historic sites. And maybe we'll talk about this Andrew. He mentioned specifically that gave him a sense of like the harshness of turn earn of the common era life like rugged landscape you know maybe how radical was that Jesus was even doing what he's doing He calls himself of a Buddhist with Christian. Tendencies saying that he was. What does that mean he said? I think it's like he was baptized methodist. He he said he was raised first Church of NFL by his dad. And that also he maybe he would have converted to Judaism but also college. Football was sacred in Ohio so he couldn't worship on Saturdays through. I mean you gotta heretics fly in the Michigan flags. No thanks He this book was inspired by two things. A lot of people were like. Oh did you watch a lot of life of Brian. Like why did you write this book. And he was like well. I read the Master and Margarita which we did like a year or two ago On our show any specifically was interested in like the scenes between Pontius pilot and Jesus and just having a more human element to this story a more grounded when did or at least in-depth version of the story. That wasn't also run through like theological goals Yes the chat is talking about the birds. It's our NFC champion nine. Seven birds go verts. You always have to bring up the nine seven. Nine is bigger number than seven. There was a line to get into the injury tent during the game and a man had to just go straight to the locker room. They were so broken. My beautiful birds sacrifice themselves to do the good football. Oh no the parallels the parallels So he says he says here's some just some stuff from Afterward that I highlighted I'm he talks a little bit. And maybe you were going to get to this young really there is beyond the birth. And then the you know the the actual preaching of Jesus which is all happening in his early thirties leading up to his death around age. Thirty three. Like that's what we get from the Bible. That's the only stuff that we really have even purports to be a primary source. I mean there are a couple of books that are not in like the Canonical Nautical New Testament that touch upon it. But that's pretty much all we've got except for one reference to him. preaching Ah Around Age twelve. And so he says with lamb in my own goofy way. I attempted to fill that hole in history but again I am not trying to present history as it might really have been. I'm simply retelling stories. theologically. I made certain assumptions about who Jesus was mainly that he was who the gospels say. He was sure he he also talks in some of these interviews Really wanting to zero in on moments of like humanity or like character traits that are are like very miniscule in the gospels because they're like traditionally focused on Jesus's teachings or whatever but he's talked more than once about like the the scene where Judas gets mad at Mary for the amount of oil she puts on Jesus's feet because the oil was expensive and he's like well that tells me something about Judas Song like seize on that and make sure I put it in there or at least riff on it He also mentioned a PBS. Frontline documentary called from Jesus Christ which is very good name talking about this kind of gap in our knowledge about him. The only other thing. I think that you mentioned that That one story in Luke Andrew when he was twelve years old which I just found funny as I have not very well studied in the Bible so like I read some of these stories and I'm like this is in the Bible where he goes Steve. We jokingly talking about doing the Bible for like Stop homered time slash. Hell boys style project. I don't know man. I working title for it as Bible thumper but. I don't think that that's probably going to happen. No I think there are other people who are more well equipped to do that than we are He when he goes to he goes to Jerusalem with his family when he's twelve on like a pilgrimage and they go home but Jesus isn't with them and they don't realize that he's not with them until they get back home which is a very home alone esque scenario that I really enjoyed wade and they come back and he's like what. I'm just chilling in my father's house with all the priests pizza. I guess I learned how to Shave. which so I thought was funny. I did kind of double check the like Basic Jesus Timeline from encyclopedia Britannica. Because I thought it would be a good like neutral resource source Andrew Mia Moto gets really weird about the Jesus's time line like he doesn't want he doesn't want you to know that order that the books came out well owes it that. Ah Or is that. He thinks everybody in the Bible actors and they're just putting on the students. I love me a motive Gospel so according to those four main books that were written like thirty sixty years after Jesus likely died He may have been born between four BC and six or seven CE. He started preaching around twenty seven to twenty eight C E which we use like pilots pontious pilots rule as the as the marker there allina loved from the Encyclopedia Britannica summary In his mid thirties. Jesus had a short public career lasting perhaps less than one year during which he attracted considerable attention he went viral understatement of the history ever but but Yeah more just seems fascinated with the fact that this guy like. There's a very very short list of individual people who have had as much impact on society directs. Jesus Muhammed's probably up there. They're like Julius Augusta. Caesar I'm not as familiar with them with the Chinese Japanese. History being classics Major Is it a Tila. Maybe and then maybe some emperors from Chinese history as well. Yeah but that's it. I mean it's not it but it. Yeah so there's this there's this dude who is extremely important to the development of of human history and we know like like nothing about him and maybe you know maybe that's intentional. I don't think maybe they didn't want this Messiah figure to be to ooh human and too accessible because that I don't know that that takes something away from him from a religious perspective I guess like I'm just kind kinds. You know the majority of answers to the core question. How come we know? So little about the teen. Jesus Most of the responses. Those are that you know. By the time they sit down to write the gospels. They are trying to make a collection of teaching. So they're not going to talk about about his teen years which were likely aimless and filled with a bunch of nonsense music. Eases the college. You know that doesn't help you. Establish your religion so they just kinda skipped out park because it's not interesting I guess but it's just. It's still fast because I think people that people generally agree that like historically Jesus was definitely in person like regardless of whether you believe even the Messiah yes God's Yang like he was a he was a person who existed. And it's just. It's sort of interesting that there's nothing has survived and there's a ton that doesn't survive from that time but a lot of what didn't survive didn't survive because Christianity eight hundred. Yeah that's true yeah Do you want to get into the book. I've wanted to other things that we can get to as appropriate but I wanna make sure that we kind of get into the story itself Knowing that like the gospels disagreeing thing is kind of what has led a lot of fiction writers to like fill in the blanks as it were or like use them as opportunities to explore different. Facets it's of this like very well known person hood and character which seems to be what more was up to? So what is the book Andrew True so the book is I mean it's it's an accounting of everything about Jesus's life from the perspective of I believe invented rented best friend of his who doesn't really appear in the Gospels. Don't think the biff is in the Bible. No well his name is like Levi. Who is called BIFF? Okay has A. He has a real name so I don't know and he does like he mentions in one chapter of this book that he's reading like the Modern Day Bible and he does catch a mention of himself. But I don't know off that means anything or not. Maybe that's just a joke. Because this book does have fun forrest Gump s propensity for inserting thing. Jesus and biff into. I don't know like inventions and customs. That still continue to this day. One notable one is eating Jews. Eating Chinese he's food on Christmas. Oh Okay I let me Jewish Christmas. I'll tell you what we had used Christmas this year we came to visit and we ordered a big big message Chinese. We got went to Chinese Christmas to Christmas. and biff invents a pencil at one point. So he doesn't have to to have an inkwell Around and at one point biff and Jesus are studying with some monks seward teaching them martial arts and Jesus wants one where he's not trying to harm anybody he's just kind of defending himself and using the other person's like wait against them and and it's called judo no it's because he's a Nobu nope and now on the books sets no man. Okay okay. That's those are the big three. I think what did that guy say on good reads. This type of humor gets enough enough time between news. I'M NOT GONNA say it's it's not to say this book was like Gut Busting and there is a lot a lot of like just casually sexist Boehner jokes. Sure I dunno it's still. It's still got a fun vibe. Over awesome chat chats that they met more like a signing and he was he was very kind and and sign their book but also L.. He made a bunch of jokes about emotional support animals during his talk. So you know you take the good with the bad I guess. Yeah he he used in multiple interviews about this book where people are like. Hey are you like ready to do. Offend a bunch of people. Like what were you excited to make people mad ad. And he repeatedly used the phrase like nothing mean-spirited with regards to his humor. Do you think that is mostly the case. That's fundamentally true and I I mean for sure. He believes that he's not saying okay. Well I know he does do some casual like the body shaming kind of stuff. Yeah a couple of like fat jokes and that kind of thing but it's not it's not it's certainly not the centerpiece it's mostly stuff. That happens in passing thing and this book did come out like a lot of years. It was early two thousands or something right. Yeah that sounds right. Oh I didn't have that up I apologize. Gee wiz Craig I had too many other things going on a publishing two thousand two so some things that we'd Talk a little little bit differently about now than we did eighteen years ago which you know and he does seem like maybe the type dude who might be receptive to that Yeah like I am. I've I've got a lot of patience with anybody who's like first reaction is not to get offended and defensive and then turns to your the reason that I'm saying all this dumb stuff because you're so you're so sensitive yes yes Also like what is the deal with biff. and Jesus us a bit Jesus or both from Nazareth biff really wants to Get with Jesus's mother. Mary neat okay. Okay so what. What has happened is biff has been resurrected did like He? He died back in Bible Times ago. He's been resurrected in modern times to write a new Gospel A Gospel according to biff. Says says you're like tell people more about Jesus and they don't really get into why that would be necessary. I mean if I were GonNA project my own stuff on it it would be about about. I don't know like there's there are some things about Christianity. The religion that seemed pretty far removed from the actual things that Jesus said Ed is what I'll say Okay yeah yeah that makes sense like the you could see a version of it where like what what does like an angel bring him back. I think I saw a blurb. Yeah well he has like an angel caretaker there. He's essentially trapped in a hotel room in Angel's just like watches his TV and stuff. Okay while biff needs to write the Gospel and he's not supposed to like the. TV is on all the time because the angels just wants to watch TV but biff is not supposed to hear much about you know how people talk about Jesus in modern times. He's not supposed to be able to read the Bible though he does find that bye-bye the you know in the drawer next to the bed and takes it into the bathroom and read that while he pretends to be doing other things in the bathroom and we have to talk about what the other the things are. We'll let the audience imagine the I imagine what kinds of things that a horny. Cool like biff could do in the bath. Great that he got resurrected by a angel in his life. Yo I'm still horny. I mean I imagined that he was resurrected by God right and then Oh sure yeah. Angel is just there to Babysit. Yeah but you you know. I don't think an angel has authority. I mean I. I don't know what happens. Structure is like the ORG chart up there. But I don't think an angel has the authority to you. Just go. Add new books to the Bible. True yes maybe I mean maybe Jesus up there being like. Hey you got to fix my book going down but what we what we get is what I see. Soda Biff has the Gift of tongues which is why he can speak in modern modern idiom and vernacular that's nation that for that. Okay like Jesus also says like they both and I'm not one hundred percent on whether this is intentional as a joke or not but they both say Jeez a lot. Like as like as an epithet and I'm not AH pretty sure given Moore's general humored that is an intentional joke very intentional because otherwise otherwise like what is what's that what's Jeez mean short. Oh that's funny. I like that okay. It sounds like a lot of the the the humor of this is kind of maybe low level simmering. Humor that works. I don't know I find in general. It looks like I I find. I don't I have never cried because of a book. I don't laugh out loud usually because of a book like with a TV show or a movie or something. That's supposed to be funny any sometimes I will laugh out loud despite myself but I'm more inclined to laugh if there are other people also laugh which which I think is a pretty common phenomenon but you know reading a book is mostly a Solo experiences so That's just the perspective I'm coming from. I've I've had books make me cry. We've talked about this in Cuna episodes. I think yeah but not this book because I didn't read it. Yeah do you know who else cries is babies. So you've got one and you've got me so good luck. My babies my two boys. So what does biff. WanNa Tell Ella in his Gospel biff. We Open I think with with them in there. So and this is this something more acknowledges in the end of the at the at the end of the book but around ten the like this is something he did. Strive to get sort of historically accurate around ten Jewish people of the time would have been sort of studying trade under their father's mostly and then around like thirteen or fourteen. You would get betrothed than you would get married okay And so we are. We meet a Joshua and biff later right before they become ten years old and Josh we we we see Joshua so the deal with Jesus in this book. I'll call him. Jesus and Joshua probably interchangeable interchangeably while we're talking But he he knows he's supposed to be the messiah like as you might imagine. Mary is Saint Him all the time. They keeping a secret. Joseph is there and he seems like trying to be stoic about but they do have a lot of other the kids who are like Jesus as half brothers I just imagined Joseph as the dad for modern family just like try but like there are lots of Dad's in that show. There's I mean in that. Show the Corny Al Bundy Phil Phil Imagine feel as Joseph just like trying to connect with this son just trying to get by always coming up with schemes to build and sell houses. You know that kind of thing spinning being in the chats as Christopher Morris fairly low brow and sensible chuckled territory. which I think is good? Like if you're going to have a laugh o meter that has sensible. We'll check all somewhere in the middle like the yellow zone then. I think that's about right the phrase sensible chuckle okay. So he's GonNa. He meets his friend. He knows he's the Messiah. Oh yeah like. They're housed in. Jesus knows he's the Messiah and he's doing kind of like low level healing and he gets like a snake's a follow him around one time there is one day where just an image of his face shows up and all the bread everyone makes them the town great and they have to cut his hair so he has plausible deniability about why his face is on on all the bread. Sure So we you know we meet them and then the other Jim Henson's Bible baby that we meet is Mary Magdalene who also kinda grows up with them And Mary Magdalene loves Jesus but he is never going to. He's he's never going to be with a woman because Angel told him not to. Oh and biff loves Mary Magdalene and she loves him in a way. But like mostly mostly as a way to be like closer to Jesus. So there's kind of a love triangle element of ood sat up there What do we know about what we oh ended learning about? Mary Magdalene in the book. What version of Mary Magdalene do we get so More talks about this a little bit in the in the afterward afterwards he he points out you know Mary. Magdalene is often portrayed as a prostitute or like thought of as a prostitute He says she's always portrayed that way movies but it doesn't ever say that she is in the Bible she has mentioned by name. Eleven Times in the Synoptic Gospels which refers to Matthew Mark Most references to her talk about her preparation for the burial of Jesus and then being the first witness of his resurrection. A also says that Jesus cured her of evil spirits. No whore references period Do you know who from the no front. We know from letters that many of the leaders of the early Church for women but for century Israel. A woman who struck out on her own without a husband was is not only considered uppity but was very likely referred to as Harlot as was a woman who was divorced that could be where the myth originated so in this book she has you know she is destroyed. The somebody else and they have a really bad marriage like the guy is sort of a low level figure in In the Jewish wish religious structure and access kind of an antagonise to Jesus throughout including like being the person who is the most loudly calling going for his crucifixion at his trial. Sure okay I did find that Apparently there's a pope from the sixth century. Who's responsible CEPAL for conflating multiple? Mary's and a quote unnamed. Sooner which is where we get the prostitute thing for. He says there are Mary's without surnames. All over the Gospel when some of them I suspect may refer to the Magdalen but yeah and then there's also a nonstick Gospel. The Gospel of Mary that is like half of the text is lost and is largely about her understanding him. Better than even the disciples and apostles did Because he loved her more something so read up on that so so the Mary we get get in. This book is is consciously not the like the Harlot. Mary Magdalene that. I think we get in a lot of other. There have been I think. Nonfiction nonfiction like scholarly books written about the possibility of a relationship between her. and Jesus just because there's some an as Moore points out. There's just so much room in here for people to invent stories and so many people have yeah. Version he decides to tell is is yes you love Jesus but it was platonic and nothing happened between them. Cool okay so sh. She's with his horny friend Brandin instead. Maybe she does not boots with biff a couple of times once because and this is not my favorite passage but once because she she says that she wants Jesus to like so they're going to go to another city there like apprentice as stonemasons under biff S- dad add and they're going to go help him build this house in this in this other city For a I believe a a Greek patron though everybody you you know all all the nations in this book are under the control of the Roman Empire at this at this point. This is Early Ish in the reign of Tiberius I think is is when it would be taking place time wise thing. That's what I saw but I would defer to you classics. Because I think I'm pretty sure gus died in thirteen or fourteen BC. And if Jesus eighty eighty eighty for purposes purposes of this way and so so if you take Jesus's birth to have been like around the year zero then we make sure I'm right because I'm saying that really confident we actually didn't say into confidently. You said it like confidently do crawl into a hole. Now he died. August nineteenth fourteen eighty okay so Tiberius Josh. Rush now goes Oh okay you stupid. Gosh I in Roman history. Just says rain was pretty long. I I feel like it's. It's maybe longest or second longest of the Julia Claudia's second-longest after Augusta's anyway notwithstanding a bonus episode where where like I just kind of get you drunk and get you go in on you wanted to do I could do drunk history about about the segue from the Republicans to the empire. That'd be fun uh-huh okay. Anyway I had it. Tell me more I still don't feel like I know much about biff. Joshua cat says that Jesus ghosted and he definitely did he holy goes to her which is a little different any who tell me more about these These friends so we get we get a little bit of their childhood and their like early adulthood and then at a certain in point. Jesus God God doesn't talk to Jesus a lot and this is this is part of when the books not trying to be like Haha they invented to judo and they call it this gun man. It's it's trying to humanize. Jesus like he was a guy who punch his best friend in the face when he really needed it when any really deserved it. Oh sure But he also was a guy who knew he was the Messiah and that he had all this. You know the the fate of of of so many people like on his shoulders and he just felt very alone in that. God didn't talk to him very much. In fact there is a scene later in the book. Look where John the Baptist is baptizing Jesus while Jesus is underwater. God who's apparently sounds like James Earl Jones me which makes sense God says from the heavens like this is my son who I'm pleased with and Jesus comes back up and everybody is like staring slack jawed into the sky and Jesus like oh no what happened so Jesus. The God is a very withholding father figure in this in this book. Yeah that would mess you up to know that God was your Dad Dad and he never called and need you to break out on your own and eventually some best was going to happen to you so maybe God could have stopped if he didn't have bigger plans for you so that would stink but the bulk of the book like probably the middle. If you're splitting it up into quarters probably like the middle two quarters. Are This journey that Jesus and biff take like they're adults by the standards of their age so it's from there like mid to late teenager hood into their like mid to late twenties. They're going around looking for the three wise men who were of course named after the The three Wiseman kroner trigger yes Mill cure and Gaspar aspire. Yes those are Gaspar Jasper. It is spelled with G.. We asked the guy who invented the GIF asper gaspar but yeah they were definitely named after the guys in chrome trigger. That's true career Korea. This guy could God create a Super Nintendo game so early that even he couldn't play it because the console was uh-huh I don't think we get those names from the bio we get them from some. You know secondary tertiary source like many many many years later but the point being he goes and studies under these three wise men on this mostly a journey into eastern countries. So we're talking about mostly Li like China and India and all these guys. They're sort of their teaching him about Eastern customs and eastern religions. And I think that is where you're like a in Moore's telling that's where a lot of the like contemplative. PC stuff in Christianity comes from because his on like Jesus realizing that he's going to need to go beyond like God's chosen people is sort of process in this book and so part of the part of what he comes to realize like studying under all these people as everybody should be allowed into the Kingdom of Heaven. Mike Oh sure loud like Romans should be allowed. Everybody should be allowed and as you might imagine like the Jewish people are not like Super Sykes about Romans being allowed in the biggest. That's the biggest a sticking point. Okay but just his his concept of saying you know this. This is something that anybody can get is learning eastern religion Asian flavored in it and it is not quite It's not it doesn't go as far as some of them. Like I I think there is Men and it's been a long time since my intro the religion class but there are some religions that are just like there is no right religion is just important that you have one of them drew and Mike anyone that you decide to have and observe is GonNa get you there. Sure sure sure on but it's you know it's sort of a half step between there are chosen people people who can only get into heaven nobody else and anybody can get a no matter what they do as long as they're being as long as they're trying to be like quote unquote good people. All who observe Tim in the chat. Says you get a heaven and you get a heaven. Everyone gets a heaven which is really just the culmination of the secret. It Saint Oprah. Is there anything in the afterward. Andrew that checks where some of the inspiration for this like part of the book came from it does more address that at all he says. My sending Joshua and biff to the east was motivated purely by story not by basis in Gospel or historical evidence and he talks about how how you know. Some of the things in the book would have been temporarily possible but like the teachings of Buddha would not have reached reached into China until several hundred years after Jesus was a person. Yeah Yeah Yeah So I I did find that there was A guy named Nicholas Callas note of each. Who was born I think in eighteen in the eighteen fifties he died sometime after nineteen sixteen? And according to wikipedia media he was quote a Crimean Jewish adventurer. WHO claimed to be a Russian aristocrat citation needed spy and journalist and and in eighteen ninety four he published a book called the unknown life of Jesus Christ that he claimed was read to him? I'm from Tibet in manuscript. While he was he had a broken leg in a monastery in India And it outlines a thirteen year old. Oh Jesus going to India and learning about Buddhism and Jane Ism and then very quickly a number of people were like Yo. You made all this. This up didn't you and he claims that he did it. One European guy wrote a letter to the monastery in the Lama was like I've never met this man And then apparently twenty years later there was another Guy Swamy Abedin Abedin Nada. Excuse me Claims TMZ drove discovered the same manuscript but people think this was largely a hoax. So I was interested to find that this like idea that he had gone. The East. During these unknown years was not purely of Moore's invention though it sounds like he's not like lifting from this guy's text or anything anything. It's just a an idea that's floating out there. Yeah you with so much space in between the birth of Jesus and what we have him in the the Bible like there is there is room for pretty much anything to happen and so he spent several years in these in these countries and his the most formative like there. There are a lot of very formative experiences that that he goes through on this trip. But the one I think. That convinces Vincent Him. That there can be no more sacrifices. The one that convinces him to sacrifice himself for the like in the place of all mankind is they. are in India and they meet people who are in the untouchable class. It's not even cast. It's like below the caste system yet But they you know there are. Some kid like untouchable kids who are sent in for sacrifice that biff and Joshua Joshua Save. But it is kind of a bloodbath. and Joshua's like this. This is not we can't this can't be how it is MHM Yeah I'd I'd seen that discussion of like one interview was like this. Is You know you pain of unflattering portrait of like some Non Christian religions. And he's like yeah. I mean I'm interested in the idea that Jesus looked at the practices of many religions and said we don't need to do this like we don't need to do these sacrifices like I'll just do it when he has. They're they're the one particular Tradition from Judaism that he'd specifically decides he's going to flout. Is the one about eating pigs pork bacon. Whatever ever you WANNA whatever you WANNA call it call it? He's just like I don't think God cares that much about the bacon thing okay and there. Are you know there are a lot of theories about how some of those dietary restrictions may have just been rooted in necessity. Were just like the hygiene of time. There were probably Lee like some kinds of meats. That just like made you super sick because you need to know how to prepare them and no one knew how to do anything. And so. That's that's where those roots come. I'm from but yeah he says Bacon is Bacon is pretty good and I don't think I mean my dad and I don't talk that much but I feel like he you wouldn't that bothered about it my God. So can you talk a little bit as we start to think about winding this down and I wanna get a sense of like. What does doing this as a as gifts gospel or as like not just from Moore's wars version of Jesus's perspective do for the book like what is? Why is it important that this is the Gospel? According to biff Christ childhood friend and not not just Christopher. Moore's Jesus Times I mean that's what makes it primarily a comedy book. Okay if you were if you were like first person Jesus US I love playing first person. Jesus Games it's true you have to convert all the heathens unlocked. God Mode and you just play. Jesus yes well okay you stupidity. Yeah that's that's that's what allows allows more to make Jesus sort of a like different from the rest of humanity is giving all the like a base stuff like all the Fi- boning and sex stuff to biff. Oh sure having and having Jesus be really curious about it but mostly because he's never going to did you experience that himself and he just wants to like understand is that like they sit around sometimes and he's just like why are you the way you are there is there are there is is a scene where they're in like brothel and biff is just like banging his way through everybody who's who's available and Joshua's Josh was like listening through the wall so make that what you will I guess Jesus Visa's a big horn maybe a lot of fiction depicting Jesus explores the sensual. Jesus like I don't know if you've ever said any judo elaborate on that. Okay so I don't know if you've ever seen I'll tell me about the my own Sandra Jesus. I don't know if you've ever seen the last temptation of Christ starring Willem dafoe as a very sensual Jesus but that's a thing based on a book by Nikos cousin talk cousins socks from the nineteen sixties. I think there's some other books we mentioned. I don't know if he's essential Jesus but we did an in our Phillip pullman series. Talk about The good man Jesus and the Scoundrel Christ where he like separated the ideas of I like the guy who got morals and like a guy who's like out to be influential and like change the world but maybe isn't doing it just because does he thinks he's the son of God And I just think that there's like a lot of there's been a tradition of fiction especially in the last fifty years or so oh of like trying to explore what it would have been like if he was a real dude who needed to like eat cheeseburgers and have sex sometimes pirker. You know what I mean though Hanna Hanna points out in the chat You know the whole impetus between him wanting wanting to know about sex is because he wanted to understand sin though I would point out that whenever biff presses him on this he's like well. Do you want me to murder murder people's you can understand murder. Jesus like well. Let's not get wasn't I go to. I do anything we can't take. You just seem uniquely interested in and sex as a sin as opposed to else. Yeah but that's where I'll that's where I leave it. Okay Okay in Henry. Snickers has thirteen year old Catholic school girl me did one say I wonder if Jesus was hot. Yeah well probably it is. I was glad that I mean he doesn't go out of his way to do anything about it. But I was glad that you don't. This is not white. Oh Oh yeah like painting hanging in you're a Baptist Church. Jesus yes Brown. Jesus would have been yes. That's good How does it get how does it Kinda Kinda wind into the crucifixion stuff? Like does it get that. Far Is biff there for that stuff so the the last quarter or fifth of the book gets gets to the the biblical Christ that we know about like the the sermon on the Mount and the the loaves and fishes and a Raising Lazarus from the dead and Walking on water. And you know the hits so so Moore does play. The hits is like gifts roles. Play the hits is Biz role. No scene to go. y'All look at this guy. He's kind of following Joshua around. We'll man you know being very proprietary about him. Sure but yeah. The first. Like three quarters of the book is Is Jesus playing stuff from his new album and finally in the back part of it you get to the get to the stuff that you came here to see you know. Sure sure we actually the that's like once. Once you get to the the stuff that is actually sourced from somewhere. I was a little bit less interested in the book. I think there's a reason why it happens at the end and it doesn't take uh-huh space that makes sense that makes do we hang out with the apostles at all. Like do we get like they mostly them. He's explained. Yeah there's a there's a scene where they go from being disciples to being Apostles Apostles being folks who can actually do some of the healing and and evangelizing and stuff. That Jesus himself does and BIFF. Doesn't you know He. Jesus asks for volunteers and biff being the reps galleon that he is says. I'm happy to be a disciple. Thanks okay But yeah we we do meet them and they mostly seem same. They seem like duds okay and he says earlier in in the book the bits chapters and beginnings of chapters that are biff and this angel like in this hotel wildlife is reading this book and then scenes have been like roaming New York and getting pizza and doing laundry and stuff. 'cause the angels. Trying to acclimate like biff. To modern life MHM But yeah in this in this last lake third or quarter of the book that mostly fades away. Okay okay in favor of just kind of talking about the miracles and things as as they happened and so something that biff notes is. Like the Jesus who I'd I'd see in these like modern gospels very flowery English translation that apparently everybody loves they don't really bear similarity to the people. I knew who are kind of Baid. Met Well and they believed and that was the most important thing but they were not the sharp tools in the shed Okay okay So mostly seems like biff. He's not a stand in for more directly and I've seen more address that in interviews us but he does fit an archetype that Moore uses in some of his other novels. Apparently as Kinda just every man he seems like Joseph's pack character. I mean he does. While Joshua's is training in the they are both training alongside each each other with with the three wise men. Learning different things like mostly Joshua's learning to how to deal with like his own individuality and how how did think about what people need and what to do with people and biff is learning about how to bang everybody and and also like be really good at knives and Mike Fighting and stuff. It's like he's training for a different different religion. Like I'm not sure. What were I? Guess just fighting version of Christianity which does happen later her where it would be useful to be good with knives. I suppose But I guess like could you see someone reading in this book and like being offended by it. I mean if it is hard to say and I'm not particularly devout myself which is all I really. You want to talk about on a podcast. I think to even seek this out. In the first place you would have to uh have a sense of humor about it and understand that you are reading something that is intentionally like sort of fanciful and fictional an irreverent. Sure if you are going into it like looking to be offended by it as a lot of people do when they're criticizing stuff in bad faith like yes. Of course you're gonNA find stuff but yeah I just don't know that I don't know that any reasonable reasonable reader would walk away from this book with that impression. I don't know I mean. Look look look at the banned books lists and yeah people are gonNA BE GONNA GONNA push back against what they're going to most. Yeah I just wanted to get your take from inside the book because Lamb seems to completely agree like he was asked Multiple Times. Did you catch any flack back from the Christian right and he was like. I think everyone was expecting it but it turns out the opposite is true. I get scores of letters from Christians who love lamb who say it has strengthened their faith lamb aim is being taught in a number of seminaries of different denominations. So I guess I must have resonated with the right people and people who would have condemned it seemed to have had good enough judgment not to read it babs in the chat says I don't think someone with enough fervor to be actively offended wooden wouldn't pick it up The title itself is sort of a giveaway away about super of content andbranch says. I'm sure that people who would be offended about. It probably would take offense before they even made it past the title which I don't think is On both of takes I deem them correct. Yeah I found a a fun review on working preacher Dot Org By a Lutheran pastor in Minnesota who said Moore's astonishing creativity applies even to areas which are difficult and distasteful not just to the clever or off colored and for adult readers who are not afraid to rethink Jesus as as a person or for those whose only religious imagination has been molded by adult piety. I recommend this book highly and then goes on to say like yeah. Yeah maybe if you don't like crass humor or like due to go into bathrooms flowing periods of times for undisclosed reasons like maybe if that's something block for you you you can't be helped And I think to to Moore's credit like even you could pick any name for this dude but even calling him biff and imprinting the name biff on the cover of a book sets does a lot of heavy lifting to set a tone. It's really it's a kind of sites sized effective because his origin story for that is that he just knew when he was growing up. He knew a Jewish boy named Biff so when he like pictured this this character. That's the name he pulled. But like that name has gone on in my in my memory because of biff from death of a salesman which is kind of like a floating mess of a man And then today I fell down a hole. Rabbit hole of the character. biff from sesame. Asked me street who owns who construction from sesame street. There's this guy biff and his fellow construction worker. Sully Sully doesn't talk and biff. If is like thinks he's smarter than sully but he's not any toxic. Hey Soul you gotta help me move this year piano. I used to know how to do the scales. You Know Doe Ray Me Fotso audio and then like he plays the scales wrong and walks away and then solely plays the piano beautifully. I watched ten of those videos. The sporting they're very very good point. That's a lot of videos. Everybody in the chats. Also pointing out biff Tannen from back. Well yes that's okay. I don't know why that's mysteries most famous bit. You don't know why I just didn't see those movies enough. As a kid that they're not like readily in the forefront one of my brain even though I know about them you should Go back to them okay. Anything else who wants to about this book Andrew at the end it is revealed the big spoiler. It's sort of like I said the hotel modern day stuff kind of fades when you're talking about Jesus actual miracles in the crucifixion and everything the thing There's this whole you know. There's this whole section where biff is trying to it. Looks like the revival part of the crucifixion might might happen because of biff. Because he's got like this sort of poison fully paralyzes you and he's planning on trying to get some of it to Jesus and then waking him up by. Oh that doesn't happen like Josh wickets bullied stabbed side by Roman soldier and killed And biff life ends like T- Kills Judas biff Kills Judas. That's his biggest Like actual forrest Gump moment. I guess as he he is responsible for Judas who if I recall correctly in the actual Bible just sort of fades out like you sort of runs away and you don't hear what happens to him. I am most familiar with the Jesus Christ superstar version where he takes his own life where he later in in and that's another commonly cited tax. You're right it's through Okay tells me Brent says Google tells me that biff is just a nickname that comes from the verb meaning punch hit strike and I can see in like sixties Batman Fawn the word biff being used like on a monitor monitoring poetically punch it strike. Sounds like a great streetfighter. Combo to me So Nelson says is that he hangs himself which I think that is I think I actually is right but in this book. It's like biff. Kills him by hanging him great with part of his clothes or something. It's not it's not a suicide it's a murder and then biff dies from some unspecified something shortly after And at the end of the book is revealed that Mary Magdalene was also brought back to life and has also been tasked with creating a new gospel and they are going to go off and they're gonna live live there modern life together like the battle star Gary Battle Star Galactica. Go okay. That's a change. I didn't expect that. Yeah so it's like a little little button. I think it's mostly inconsequential like honestly the the the hotel parts of the book. You could take out and not really lose a whole lot and unless you are really really like you're reading this book and you're like man this. This is fun and everything but I really need a frame. Narrative established why. We're from this guy at officer. It's probably a table setting for the tone. ooh More than anything else. Like a plot table setting as much as it's like. It's a way in for the irreverence to feel justified. Like you said even that thing about like the fact that because he has the gift of tongues he can speak with anachronism lying. That's just a jokey almost Douglas Adams e way to justify defy the entire style of the rest of the knock. Yeah if you're if you're in the dugout and what was that other book. I read recently though those kind of it was the era fair if you are in the like Jasper Four. Douglas Adams Neil gaiman Terry Patchett. Sort of universe like back back if there's a quadrant that represents all books if you're in that quadrant for this year in the right place sure okay. Cool Well that's that's the book. Then right sure is thanks for telling me about it. Thanks to our chat for hanging out and chatting with US along the way If you were not in the chat and you WANNA send us an email you can hit us up at overdue pot at gmail.com his up on facebook or twitter at overdue. You pod Andrew folks want to know more about the show. Where should they go over to pocket? Dot Com has a website. That's the one s colon for slash flash forward slash PODCAST DOT COM. Sorry we are https. It's very secure. Now you can securely click on links for apple podcast. Google play in our S. feed and Our Patriot fan page. That's dot com slash overdue pod. But you guys already know about that because you're already giving us money thank you yeah And if you haven't already check out our social feeds for our upcoming schedule wool if you The beginning of January will start with the prince by Niccolo oh Machiavelli spins as Mary. Magdalene a slap a snapchat. I think that Mary Magdalene would be more of a V.. ESCO girl how you pronounce that what is that. You don't use. Jeez read a book. I don't know what that is. It's the the name of an APP that takes photos and sort of parallel to like sap Janice Grandma and stuff okay. So it's not like came. Google Yeah Google it afterward. Okay like all the good things. Google educate yourself having New Year. Everybody I did know what VISCO is. VISCO well okay. Everybody thinks come in happy new year. It's been a good one and we'll see you next decade the dry be happy. I that was a Hickam podcast.

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714: TeeVee Sub-Show Update

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03:09 min | Last month

714: TeeVee Sub-Show Update

"Hey everybody it's jason snell. I run the incomparable. And if you're listening to this you are subscribed to the tv feed for years now. Tv has been the place where we put basically all sorts of different podcasts about various television shows and we are changing it up. We've been in the process of doing this for a little while. Now you may have noticed. A bunch of shows have disappeared from the main tv feed Biff became its own thing when it was the arrow cast before we had our star. Trek discovery vulcan. Hello it spun off into its own. Podcast dan morons complicated profession about the mandalorian became the complicated profession. Podcast and also covers other televised star. Wars the list goes on basically. We are going to keep the tv feet around as a place to do one offs and short runs and things that we're not really ready to commit to being a full on podcast. There's also a bunch of stuff there from listeners members of the incomparable who are doing their own things. That's all great but other stuff is moving out of there. And so today. I want to tell you about ted lasso. That's been moved. It's now part of football is life. It's got its own feed if you subscribe to the lasso feed. You're getting it if you just subscribe to the tv feed. You're not going to get any future episodes similarly my doctor who flash cast when doctor who comes back. It's not going to be in the tv feed. But if you're subscribe to the doctor who flash casts specific feed that will just carry over otherwise you're going to need to subscribe to that likewise greetings from the uncanny valley which is our westworld. Podcast when westworld comes back. That's not going to be in the tv feed. It's only going to be in the greetings from the uncanny valley feed and with all of these shows if you were subscribed to the one show only special feed. That was like a sub feed at the tv. Podcast you should not have any trouble it will get redirected and no problem but if you're getting this in the tv feed. That's not going to happen anymore. So definitely some of those shows are your favorites Subscribe to the official show version now. Because they won't be drifting into tv. Of course if you subscribe to the incomparable super feed where you get every show. We release an oh. It's a lot of shows. You're hearing this as well and you'll get these shows in that feed because they're still on the network they're just not going to be in the tv viewed proper. They're going to have their own little homes and then if you're a member the other thing that's going to happen is in about three months. We're going to do our last membership a out to host of a tv podcast and then we're going to turn that off entirely so the tv feed is going to go back to being just of not supportable by members. It'll be there for funds. Step if we want to and then what that also means is that all of these shows that have spun out of the tv feed if you're a member and you want support them you should go to your member page and update your support to check the boxes for the shows that you want to support directly. That's it thank you for listening to this exciting housekeeping. Note posing as a podcast. I appreciate you listening. And i'll talk to you later.

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S14: Unknown America: Freemasons Pt. 1

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42:16 min | 9 months ago

S14: Unknown America: Freemasons Pt. 1

"It's a secret organization full of powerful people and it was involved in the very founding of america if you enjoy these episodes on the freemasons explore more nefarious groups and people who lead them on colts. New episodes air every tuesday. Free on spotify or wherever. You listen to podcasts. Due to the graphic nature of this cult's crimes listener discretion is advised. This episode includes discussions of graphic material that some people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for listeners. Under thirteen someone is carried. You blindfolded through what felt like an endless series of hallways and chambers usage in the middle of a room this is the final stage of your initiation right voices around you guide you through an elaborate recreation of your own murder three men pretend to stab you with surprising force. You sink to the floor gasping for air. They order you to rise up and remove your blindfold a group of men stare at you with pride. The leader the grandmaster extensive hand. You exchange the secret handshake. You now belong to an elite group of powerful man. Brilliant minds that have held rank with oscar wilde mozart and george washington you are now a freemason part of the most exclusive cult in history. Hi i'm greg paulson. And i'm vanessa. Richardson and this is cults. Today we're taking a deep dive into one of the oldest secret organizations in the world the freemasons a group that originated as a working union in the middle ages and evolved into one of the most exclusive clubs in the world with them. Some of the most important political thinkers develop their ideas and four fronted movements. That changed the course of history. You can listen to previous episodes of cults as well as all of our casts other shows wherever you listen to podcasts. A new episode comes out every tuesday. A lot of you have asked how you can help support the show and if you enjoy the podcast the best way to do that is to leave a five star review. You can also find us on facebook and instagram. As at podcast and on twitter at podcast network freemasonry is considered to be the oldest and biggest fraternal organization in the world with approximately three million active members in virtually every free country in the world. Today it's a society of almost exclusively male members although there have been some extremely rare inclusions of women throughout their history they're bound by fellowship brotherhood and similar world ideology and their beliefs revolve around a series of secret rituals mythology and symbols. The freemasons are perhaps one of the few societies in the world that pride themselves on secrecy for hundreds of years that is arguably benefits most attractive trait for potential members. People joining them in order to learn their secrets. Because of this conspiracy. Theories around the freemasons have existed from their very early origins. These have included everything from supposed divine connections to the role of biblical kings and mediaeval heroes in their inception to their involvement in setting up revolutions in europe and the united states. Some of the world's most powerful men belonged to the freemasons including winston churchill. Henry ford voltaire. Mozart nine signers of the declaration of independence and thirteen. Us presidents more than once. They've been suspected of trying to take over the world in reality. The history and goals of the freemasons are not really about evil secrecy. They were a group of men who common political and ideological goals managed to transcend and develop through centuries but before this organization became a school of thought for some of the brightest minds in history before they were associated with political schemes and secret rituals and possible world domination. The freemasons evolved out of a group of simple men in the middle ages a group of men with one humble goal. The fair treatment of construction workers the specific origins of freemasonry have been highly debated through the years. But the most consistent account is that they evolved from a group of construction workers during the middle ages called the stonemasons. The word mason literally translates to build her or worker. The stonemasons were the people in charge of working with stone and erecting the great buildings and cathedrals of medieval europe the earliest records of these groups date all the way back to six seventy four. Ad northern england at this point in history. Few men were free. Most people were born into common futile lands that belonged to aristocratic families and worked lifetime contracts in exchange for shelter and food they were bound to their occupation which was learned through apprenticeship with merchants and craftsmen by the end of the fourteenth century. Craftsman began to care deeply about the protection and fair treatment of their fellow workers and their products. They began to gathering groups to discuss common issues and concerns and create rules. That would keep all of their work consistent. These groups had to be approved by the lord governing towns or by the municipal government. This is how the earliest industry guilds first appeared. Guilds were the groups that controlled the interactions between town officials lords and their workers the negotiated worker benefits wage protection and quality control over learned skills and finished goods in many ways. They were the precursors to what we now know as trade unions most craftsmen were bound for life to the estate or town. They were born in but because of their line of work. The stonemasons were the only guild members allowed to serve more than one. Lord changed jobs and moved from one town to another. They were freeman. Hence the root of the name they were also commonly known as the freemasons the freemasons is one of the longest operating cults will explore on the show to fully understand the evolution of this organization. It's important to understand the world in which the group was formed. Vanessa's going to take over a psychology. Here she's not a licensed psychologist psychiatrist but she has done a lot of research the show. Thanks greg the freemasons were unique in that they were the only social group able to leave their villages. The rest of europe under the feudal system were barely better off than slaves. According to eric erikson's theory of psychological development this kind of stagnation can lead individuals to feeling unconnected to others and the world at large that fits in nicely with what we commonly associated with the middle ages complacency stagnation and an over reliance on the church as opposed to education and self reflection. These circumstances made the freemasons unique and poised them to expand into something beyond a normal trade union. When a group of freemasons began to work together on a building which usually took several years they organized and met as a guild in a common building called lodge lodges were temporary or unfinished structures that could easily be taken down when construction of the main building was completed freemasons held constant communication with other lodges in the county to maintain consistency guild. Matters the us these places to initiate and admit new members the freemasons a more complicated system of apprenticeship and membership than other guilds of the time. They made aspiring stonemasons. Complete three degrees of membership before they could fully belong to the group. If a young boy showed interest in becoming a stonemason he would be taken between the ages of ten and twelve to be apprenticed by a master mason. He had to show physical strength and agile mind and come from a good family reputation. This training lasted about seven years. During this period he would have to complete an arduous training process and could acquire three different ranks of membership. The young beginners were aptly called apprentices. The first rank few people actually completed this part of the process so it was only after a boy had put in enough hours of training that his name was entered into the records of the guild he would then earn the official title of an entered apprentice and could move on to pursue the second rank when this first apprenticeship period was completed the boy would be called into the lodge and his master would test his conduct and skills. If found satisfactory he became a fellow of the craft. The second rank. This meant that he could start working for wages and had a vote and say in the management of the guild many stonemasons decided to stay in this rank as it provided them with constant work and affair living salary however some wanted to pursue more complicated work and responsibilities obtaining larger pay and potential fame a fellow could then choose to become a master by taking up the contract of building and hiring other fellows to help him completed once. A part of the guild freemasons tried to keep their skill secret so that only members would know how to do their job and their employment would remain secure regardless of where they traveled. This is perhaps one of the earliest instances of freemasons being associated with secrecy and codes as they had several handshakes and passwords. They used to recognize each other whenever they moved to a new location whenever newcomer arrived in town claiming to be a freemason he would have to give the resident master a secret grip depending on his membership rank and thus be recognized and allowed to join in this period and freemason history is commonly known as its operative period as it mostly revolves around the practical skills and rituals at the group several aspects of the operative period and masonry have been passed on through the centuries and survive in the present day organization particularly the division of ranks and their names and the lodge is the main place of gathering at initiation. The medieval stonemasons are the most agreed upon origin. Point for the freemasons and the one that can be backed up the most by historical evidence however many believed that freemasonry started not with a trade guild but with a legend about a king a holy packed with god and the brutal murder of an architect who alone knew the secret. Up god's defined. We'll we'll explore the darker rumors about freemasonry after this quick break. What's if you discovered your life was something is not answer. Alex rider ordinary tain extraordinary spine. Reluctant hero imdb. Tv's original series. Alex rider is an action spy thriller following a british teenager recruited by sick based on the novels. By anthony horowitz. Alexy's mission begins the. He learned his uncle's death. Was a cover up and is operatives in secret spot training alex pussy spice skills to the test to find out why he's uncle was killed. And how it fits into a much larger global conspiracy stream alex rotter for free on november the thirteenth exclusively on imdb tv streaming service of in premium movies and tv shows for free no subscription required available on amazon fire tv or anywhere. Prime video is available. Imdb tv wise entertaining. Oh free this episode is brought to you by bio life plasma services. Now more than ever people want to know if there's anything they can do to help and the answer is yes. At via life plasma services you're plasmas desperately needed to create life. Changing medicines to help treat people with immune deficiencies those who are most risk right now and when you donate plasma bio life you can earn up to seven hundred dollars in your first month as a token of appreciation for your time so please become a donor at bio life visit via life plasma dot com to schedule an appointment now back to the story by the middle ages groups of workers had come together to discuss work regulations and formed guilds around their craft. The stonemasons the group of workers behind the great buildings of europe were free to travel the continent recruit new ships and meet secretly in temporal lodges. This is usually considered to be the most historically accurate beginning freemasonry but there are several accounts and beliefs that its origins actually traced several hundred years before to biblical times many members and scholars of freemasonry can trace some of the rituals and symbolism of the group to the temple of king. Solomon and to the bloody legend of its builder. Hiram biff hiram biff is known in the bible as the widow's son. He was the chief architect and master builder of king solomon's temple with erected approximately one thousand bc. According to the legend the king received the design for this temple directly from god and he gave it to hiram directly. The temple was intended to store the tablets that held the ten commandments. Hiram hired three expert jewell workers to help him with the ornate decorations of the famously complex structure however he was very secretive about the design and the particular steps needed to complete it and the workers became jealous of him. Whenever the workers would ask high room for the blueprints to the temple he would dodge the answer he would say that could only be known through a secret word that was given to him directly by god and that he would share it with them once. The temple was completed one night. They waited for him outside the temple after prayer then surrounded him and asked him once again for the secret word. When hiram refused they stabbed him to death high rooms alleged last words were who will help the widow son which became the universal. Cry for help in freemasonry. If one member was in need of assistance they would shout. The statement at another member would show up with help. It is still used to this day. Hiram is refusal to give out any detailed secrets about the temple which was considered divine. Information turned him into a masonic hero. He became a representation of what members should aspire to be like on the other hand. The three jul workers became symbols for the three biggest threats for which any freemason should be on the lookout ignorance. Fanaticism and tyranny hiram story became the basis for a lot of masonic symbolism ideology and ritual each lodge is designed after the biblical description of king. Solomon's temple the classic masonic garments are modeled from close of that era and the initiation rite asks members to reenact high rooms murder during the ceremony. However as valuable as this legend became for the mythology of the group there is no historical evidence. That either hiram or king solomon's temple ever existed outside of the bible so the widow's son is perhaps not the most reliable historical origin point for freemasonry. But there's another legend that many people claim has strong ties to the masonic beginnings one that would explain the similarities and rituals and beliefs with another group. It's a legend of mythical crusades the divine corruption of power at an organization forced into hiding. It's the story of the knights. Templar a second theory ties. The legends of the knights templar a secret group that allegedly once threatened to take over europe with the freemasons historical evidence suggests that their paths could have crossed soon after the templars came into sudden wealth and power. The knights templar were a group of fighting soldiers that traveled to the holy land during the middle ages. Their holy quest was to kill infidels. Anybody that wasn't christian. In this case. Muslims these journeys were done as part of the crusade movement of the roman catholic church to convert any radically eight nonbelievers. The knights became rich from plundering and ransacking the treasures that the people they invaded. The templars began as nine solitary french nights that traveled to the middle east. In the year. Eleven eighteen to guard a group of christian pilgrims when they arrived to the old city of jerusalem they were housed in the aisle awesome osc with was believed to have been built on top of king. Solomon's temple it is said that when they were cleaning out the stables to spend the night the earth old buried treasure which included solomon's legendary gold the richest from the plunder of rome the holy grail and scrolls that detailed a secret language between god and man much like the legend of the widow son had detailed when these riches appeared before them. The knights found themselves with a unique opportunity. They could expand the reach of the roman catholic empire and obtain outstanding personal wealth so much for their devotion to humility and humble piety in eleven. Twenty seven the knights returned to europe and under false pretenses of a muslim threat convinced the church to sponsor an army of over thirty thousand men to invade and forcefully take the land. They plundered the middle east and even move onto places in eastern europe and the muslim territories of spain. Although most of their movements were in the east they establish themselves all over the continent the knights suddenly had almost unlimited resources and support of the most powerful institution in the world thousands of miles the watchful eyes of rome. They were free to do whatever they pleased. This is to be expected. According to psychology professor. Kristen smith crow. She observes that. The promise of money has a huge capacity to drive people towards unethical behaviors intentions and decisions. The knights templar were almost destined to become tyrants in their own right soon the knights templar became one of the most influential and flourishing organizations in the world. They were an elite group of soldiers and politicians who hid behind the church and plundered small towns on the grounds of religious infidelity exploited their resources and forced their beliefs upon the conquered peoples. Their reach was almost as big as that of the catholic church itself spanning from the western corners of spain to the middle east and from northern england to the mediterranean. They were very small group of people dealing with incredibly large amounts of money and property because of this they developed and perfected advanced systems of banking material shipping and personal security. In addition a lot of secrecy surrounded their operations. It's believed that they met only at night and held private rituals and undetermined locations very similar to masonic initiation rites and their lodges rip this sudden expansion of wealth and territory in europe. The temple has decided they wanted to leave a bigger mark and embarked on a building mission. They started to sponsor and oversee the construction of large structures and buildings that reflected the religious opulence that they stood for however as rich and powerful as they were they were not builders themselves they did not know the architectural skills or have the mathematical knowledge to do so so they employed the services of the only people that were experienced and skilled enough to complete the task. The stonemasons so far we've used the terms stonemason and freemason pretty interchangeably in the episode but historically or at least according to the knights templar theory. This is the point in time. Where the word freemason came into use for the group. In the moment that the templars hired the services of the stonemasons and their legends became intertwined the freemasons were born while the stonemasons carried the lodges craft secrets and apprenticeship ranks with them the secrecy and ritualistic nature of the meetings came mostly from the knights. Templar it was at this point in time that the two separate ideologies came to be part of just one group and the freemasons would carry those ideologies through the centuries because shortly after their meeting the knights templar would be subjected to one of the bloodiest coordinated massacres in history by thirteen seven. The templars were making large fortunes and using them to grow infrastructure and expand politically that deviated from their original religious. 'cause they were gaining more territory and wealth than even the catholic church the people who had originally sponsored them and now with the support of the stonemasons they had structures that nearly outshone those of the church. Their wealth and power had nearly eclipsed that of some monarchs for the ruling powers in europe. It was time for the free masons to go king. Philip of france ordered his army to strike down every single templar on the same day october thirteenth thirteenth seven. This sent shockwaves across europe and was seen by other rulers as a warning sign. They reasoned king. Philip must understand the real danger of the templars soon. Other monarchs began following suit in a matter of days. Most of the unsuspecting leaders of the templars were rounded up put into jail and charged with blasphemy and heresy this became known as the templar arrest. Many people believe this is the origin of the superstition around friday the thirteenth in thirteen twelve. Five years after the arrest and following a series of brutal trials and bloody executions. The pope made an executive order to disband. The knights templar however not every leader and member had been rounded up. it's believed that the surviving members of the templar went underground and joined the ranks of the stonemasons with whom they had kept a close and intimate relationship for decades the asked to be undercover members of the group which would allow them to travel freely through europe. Some of them even agreed to learn architectural skills and become proper stonemasons. This is how many believed some of the rituals of the templars were kept alive still buried in secrecy. The merging of the knights templar on the stonemasons into a single organization seems like a plausible theory. It's not hard to believe that their paths would cross during the templar building initiative and the templars probably appreciated the stonemason secrecy and discretion however very little historical or physical evidence can substantially back this up. But there's one of physical evidence that seems to tie them together or at least suggest that their societies did merge at some point in time in fourteen forty. Six william saint clair rosalyn. One of the most powerful and influential barons of scottish feudal society commissioned a chapel to be built on his land he hired a group of traveling stonemasons for the job and named it the rosslyn chapel after his family name today. The rosslyn chapel is most famous for being the final setting in dan brown's bestselling novel the davinci code precisely because it contains so much masonic symbolism on the carvings of the structure and it was designed after king solomon's temple the presence of these symbols and scotland suggests that may sonic culture did in fact traveled through europe with the stonemasons and became ingrained in the buildings. They erected by the late fifteen. Hundreds were at least. Thirteen established lodges around scotland. But they were still unfinished structures. That were taken down when the freemasons left. It wasn't until the turn of the sixteenth century that the lodges became more permanent and institutional organizations records of lodge meetings are considered to be the best evidence of any real organization between masonic members the earliest meeting records in existence. Date back to january fifteen ninety nine in edinburgh scotland. They were found in mary's chapel. Which is considered to be the oldest proven still standing maisonet structure anywhere in the world. These records proved that at this time. The free masons were starting to establish a more formal structure to rule over their guild matters instead of meeting in ever changing buildings through secret passwords. They now had more permanent headquarters and kept documents detailing. Their rules and rituals. Mary's chapel is believed to be the first of these headquarters originated with a man called. William shaw who was the master of works for king. James the sixth scotland shaw oversaw the construction and maintenance of all king james properties and thus all of the stonemasons working in them he also implemented a new bookkeeping system that would cover everything from how apprenticeship worked to rituals and rules most of which had never been captured in any physical records before he wanted a more formalized structure to keep record of the construction sites that he was in charge of in fifteen ninety eight. He sent this new method to every lodge in scotland and urged each lodge to create a new position in the organization a notary. That would keep record of every meeting. That's how lodges began keeping minutes. And how the very first records ended up in mary's chapel the year after up to this point membership to the freemasons was strictly confined to men who were involved in the actual craft of design supervision and construction of buildings men that could consider themselves active in this operative period however as the societal landscape around them started to shift and their services became less needed and less secret. The rules for becoming a freemason also began to change by the start of the sixteen. Hundreds the ignorance and selective knowledge that characterized most of the middle ages was starting to get left behind with the invention of the printing press texts and information that were once only available to a select elite became widely accessible to the masses and gave way to renewed interest in politics science and art one of the books that was printed and gained immense popularity among these newly educated people was euclid elements a collection of mathematical theories. It's often considered the most important and influential textbook in history because of its instrumental role in the development of logic and modern science. One of the things you clip showed in this tax was the direct relationship between numbers and architecture. A skill that up to that point had remained secret only among stonemasons. Suddenly the one thing that made them indispensable and unique in their craft was made available for anyone to use now practically anyone with even the most basic knowledge of construction could erect buildings as intricate as there's in addition a shift in architectural style came with the end of the middle ages and the started the renaissance and the reformation the classic gothic style of architecture. In which the guild was so well i began to die out. So not only were the freemasons trade secrets made public but also irrelevant because of this. There is a steep decline in freemason membership during the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. There were so few freemasons that most of the major lodges had to close down. They desperately needed membership dues to stay afloat now that the feudal system was disappearing and four higher. Jobs were less secure. The freemasons needed capital. They needed to adapt to the times or disappear from existence completely. We'll track the evolution of the freemasons after this break. This episode is brought to you by the university of arizona. Wonder is more than a mere state of mind. It's more complex than curiosity. More purposeful than a dream wonder moves us. It drives us forward and compels us to explore. It makes us find new leanings. Develop new skills consider new points of view it makes us engage challenge questioned the status quo. Wonder makes us listen. It makes us learn. It makes us discover who we are at the university of arizona. Wonder makes us what will wonder make you now. Back to the story. In the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries has the freemasons became obsolete. As a working class. They fought to gain enough capital to keep their lodges afloat. So in what can be considered a simple and logical financial decision. They decided to start accepting non operative members simply for their money. This meant that people who were not involved in the craft building whatsoever could suddenly become a freemason it had been transformed from a strictly professional guild to a social society to the surprise of many the freemasons ended up attracting some of the biggest political minds at the time to understand this appeal. We need to look at the socio. Political changes taking place at the time by the sixteen. Hundreds the western world had moved away from the religion centric and faith oriented ideologies of the middle ages. The renaissance had a newfound appreciation for the classic cultures. A rebirth of liberal arts and shipped in political thinking going from strict theocracies and affirm union of church and state to more democratic forms of government as we discussed earlier the stagnant psychological climate of medieval europe allowed the freemasons to separate themselves from other futile servants and identify themselves as something special but as this feudal system fell away and people gained more agency over their own lives. New waves of thinking crested over europe at this point the most progressive renaissance man had already started to implement the beliefs and values that would evolve into the ideals of the enlightenment and later of the freemasons themselves. The age of enlightenment was a period in human history in which the dogma of religion that had dominated the middle ages gave way to science and reason as the main way to understand the world could is believed to have been started in the early sixteen. Twenty s with the so-called scientific revolution in which people like galileo isaac newton and nicholas kapernick has transform the way we looked at the world through their scientific observations. The enlightenment radically changed the way. Men understood and related to almost every aspect of human life and sought to advance ideals like liberty progress tolerance fraternity and democracy. It also reclaimed the ancient belief that the sciences were intrinsically linked to the divine arts. And that human reason was the only way of reaching full spirituality in sixteen forty nine king charles. I of england was executed on charges of tyranny. That was the starting point for the many changes in government that would come over the next century and a turning point for the freemasons for the time being the church and the state were still tied together and as a last attempt to hold onto that power. the church started to actively persecute anyone promoting the views and values of the enlightenment to avoid imprisonment and torture enlightened. Men had to look for a secret places to meet. These men were looking for underground meeting spots. Just as masonic lodges were in dire need of members it was apparent made in heaven. Freemasonry was a mix of the worldviews that enlightened thinkers considered essential it had scientific foundations embedded in the centuries old crafts architecture and mathematics. It's rituals and ceremonies were ingrained with mystical thinking and the structure and operation. Of lodge hierarchies and membership were instilled with basic democratic freedoms freemasonry became irresistible to these new radical thinkers. This period of time and masonic history is known as the transition period. Although it i started with only a few non workers with time the new members came to surpass the original guilt. Both in number and influence. And it's no surprise since the lodge is offered these new gentlemen. A wide range of advantages by joining master masons were usually very fluent in all aspects of culture from literature and science to philosophy and politics and they were known across the continent for their mathematical in architectural skills and contributions men were actively seeking this exchange of ideas and information. They were also drawn to the lodges for their antiquity and their relationship with the divine figures. Like king solomon and the knights templar. They were fascinated by the masonic relationship between divinity and science a belief that they also considered fundamental but most of all it gave them a place to socialize and fraternize with other like minded people. Something that they couldn't do out in the open in fact the church's condemnation made the organization more attractive to people that had fought hard against religious involvement in government soon. a continent wide network of brothers was created. There was constant correspondents and travel between members. Who offered each other assistance charity. Initiation rites an informational meetings were held almost every week. This was their way of gathering socially and drinking together after just a few decades freemasonry had gained an air of respectability among the men of the enlightenment the attempted to uphold an image of gallantry by instating very rigid rules of discipline and behavior in part to keep the strict secrecy that was still enforced on its members for example it was common for freemasons to take trips to the theater and the group was one of the first to instill the habit of staying quiet during performances. Up until that point it was common for audiences to yell at the performers and comment out loud among themselves because of the sudden demand for membership lodges quickly recovered from their economic strife and started to charge substantial dues. Though these were usually determined by members individual ability to pay and people were willing to pay top dollar to be included in the freemasons according to persuasion psychology scarcity and exclusivity people are innately triggered to want things that are scarce and exclusive being part of something exclusive increases our value as a person once they have something scarce or exclusive. They fear losing it and are quick to go to any lengths to secure their new social status which meant that members of valued their place among society's most enlightened men and were quick to play along with the secret handshakes and discreet meetings it added to the prestige and fun. All across europe individual lodges started to gain personal identities and personas some more exclusively for the noble born others were for students or doctors some for merchants and even actors. Some lodges banned certain professions while others encourage them most of the lodges for secular. Though this evolved slowly through time in its early stages lodges required. Its members to belong to whatever. Religion was most prevalent in the lodge home country but as the largest moved more toward the ideals of the enlightenment. The only requirement was that the potential member believe in any supreme being regardless of specific religion. Every lodge was self governing its members elected its leaders and decided how long they could stay in power much like a democratic government every local lodge in a town or county answered to a larger grand lodge which oversaw the management and growth of the smaller lodges. Some of the most noteworthy men of the time were proven members of a masonic lodge these included isaac newton who was an avid proponent of the marriage of science and theology. He was obsessed with king. Solomon's temple was certain it was the hiding place that the philosopher's stone a mythical rock that allegedly had healing powers extended once life and turned metal into gold other notable members included sir christopher wren one of the great english architects who was asked to head the grand lodge sir robert murray who was one of the first non builder people to be admitted to a lodge and was the founder of the royal society of london and elias. Mal renowned astrologist politician and alchemist at the time. However the masonic lodges would not remain simple meeting places for socializing drinking and the exchange of ideas for long soon they would become the birthplace for some of the biggest political changes in world. History government was a common talking point among masonic members and enlightened men up to this point almost every country in europe had been under some form of monarchy and they believed that it was time for a change. They believe that countries should choose their officials in popular elections where every citizen had a vote just as lodges managed their internal government. These topics were recorded in masonic meetings. All the way back to sixteen fifty nine were members would discuss the connection between classic wisdom and national governance. They spoke of treating every man as an equal something masonic lodges had been doing from the very start. They valued the role of individual voices in elections. They spoke of religious tolerance and personal freedoms all of them radical ideals up to that point in history. Seventeen seventeen marked the most important change in freemasonry up to that point on june twenty-fourth representatives of four grand. Lodges of london met at a pub. The goose and gridiron ale house they decided to merge their lodges forming a single premier grand lodge of england they implemented and spread and extensive language of symbols that would bind members together to develop moral character in society a square which represents those square of actions and virtue meaning being honest and fair a compass meant to circumscribe someone's passions and the letter g. with stands for either geometry the basis of the craft the freemasons were built on or god the one supreme being that all members believe in the fourth symbol is an intertwined square and compass and it is the one that is most closely associated with them sonic movement. It means the combination of an honest and immoral life. These symbols served as a means of secret. Communication between masonic members just like the handshakes had been with the medieval stonemasons. There perhaps one of the most ever lasting legacies of the freemasons and they can still be found in structures and rituals of the group to this day. This moment was considered the end of the transition period. And the start of speculative masonry the form that is still being carried on today by the start of the seventeen hundreds the free masons were set in their world views and wanted to spread them as far and wide as possible they thought a radical transformation was necessary for society and government evolve next week. We'll see how members of the freemasons became the force behind some of the world's biggest revolutions and examine the role of the freemasons in the founding and growth of the united states. The freemasons have been the world's most exclusive society for over five hundred years. They've reached unfathomable power while maintaining iron clad but as their influence became absolute. They started to bury a lot more than secrets. Thanks again for tuning into cults. 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1998 Sams Town 200

Classic Races

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1998 Sams Town 200

"Sonal? April nineteenth tailgate a truck. Smashes of the five of tax breaks machine. Race off term to down the vaccine, Indianapolis, Indiana, July thirtieth now here spray going for second and they come together. Now. What are they goes around slams into the law? I was old, Elaine. I felt and I don't feel like I did anything wrong. But I really to happen in good to me decks. Brag had to man thirteen points. One race one championship trophy live from Las Vegas. The SAM's town two fifty next. The NASCAR truck network presents. Nass car today. A ten month twenty-seven race quest for the nineteen ninety eight NASCAR craftsman truck series championship comes to an end today in the desert of Nevada. Good afternoon and welcome to Las Vegas. The NASCAR truck network is live to bring you the Sam sound to fifteen might Bagley here alongside Allan Beswick and Allen. There are many stories in this race this afternoon. The biggest of which lies with Ron Hornets. Jack spray your NASCAR racing fan. You want one of three things you want to have a very good competitive season. A lot of different winners the championship race that comes down to the final event. You could not ask for any more than you've had in the NASCAR craftsman truck series this season fourteen different drivers have gone to victory lane. A lot of different winters. The racing has been spectacular. Fender banging paint trading. Just outstanding competition. And now it's all cap today by what is basically a head to head sprint over two hundred fifty miles for the championship in the race win. There is also a head to head sprint for the cintas. Rookie of the year battle between Andy Houston. Greg bifida biff leading Houston by one point coming into this race. After a surprise announcement earlier this morning in the rookie of the year competition the way that NASCAR does things. There are a number of discretionary points that are voted on by a panel at all levels of the NASCAR top echelon of racing that usually done after the last racist concluded but NASCAR decided to do that here before this race was conducted. So the vote this weekend is brought the gap between Greg Bill and Andy Houston down to a single point from twelve. So basically those two drivers will raise head to head for the rookie of the year title in this afternoon's event as well. So you've get a championship thirteen points between those two the rookie battle a single point between those two at what is one of the most competitive tracks on the circuit. We should see a great event here today. It's going to be an awesome one between Jack Sprague, Ron horrid. Plus all of the other drivers in the field. A lot of drivers looking for victory for the first time this year here in Las Vegas. You are listening to lie flag. The flag coverage of the SAM's town two fifty today on one of two. Hundred four radio stations in twenty eight states brand new record for this event here on the NASCAR truck network when we come back. We'll go down trackside talk to the championship contenders. And other drivers that are in contention to win here today from the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. This is the NASCAR truck network. Back in the Las Vegas Motor Speedway in Nevada. Getting set for the start of the final race of the nineteen ninety eight NASCAR craftsman truck series as we've already documented there are two drivers going for the championship Ron Hornets. And Jack Sprague wanted leads Jack's break coming into this race. But it was Jack sprang who on the bud pole yesterday. He is on the pole for I believe it's his fourth or fifth time this year. He comes into this race trailing haunted by thirteen points. He used to be known as mild track, Jack or big track. Check. However, he only has one superspeedway win this year that came at the California speedway in Fontana back in July. Let's get Jack stats as he chases Hornets for the crown Tony Zuhdi from Orlando, Florida one sixty one point seven four nine miles per hour. The bud pole your fourth of the year and Jack when you come to the last race with a battle. You really need a good start. You guys came up with the best one here. Well, team Macy's Chevrolets. Ben great all weekend. We've had a great track record here. And it's come down to this last race for the points championship. It's like the first twenty six didn't matter. And you know, it's this do best somebody has to lose. But somebody's gonna lose at the end of the day in and be very dejected in someone's going to win very happy. So hopefully, we can win this race and win this championship. And it'd be a great day. And if not we'll come back after next year and do it again in all of sports, including motor sports. They say it's very hard to win the first one to put to repeat even harder here. You are on the cusp of having your second straight championship hasn't been harder to get to this position this year. Oh, definitely been hard of the competitions very much harder. You know, we've had a lot of things go wrong. Normally, we don't this team's not characteristic for and it's not anything due to maintenance or anything else. Just little things can't control and it's been up and down near. But you know, we're gonna start this thing, and we're gonna we're gonna finish at least second this thing. And we've had a great year. So you know, if we don't win the thing we still had a great year. If we win the thing it'll be an extra great year and guys done a great job. And I wouldn't change thing. He's been amazingly cool, and collected that Jack Sprague esteems been quietly confident that they can get a win and get the championship here in Las Vegas theory rival for Sprague for the championship. Is that ID six titled Ron hor today you'll start today back in the tenth position. If Jack Sprague wins the race Ron horrid today can still get the title by finishing second in the event. But that's no easy task particularly for Hornets at this Las Vegas mile where he does not have an outstanding track record at least not compared to Sprague's. Let's get the thoughts of frant- hor today before the green flag. He's with Newport. Tennessee's Jim Phillips the way to the championship is around Ron. Today. Thirteen points ahead. Jack breaks up ahead of you is the plan today. The fall of the tailgate of Jack's break, not at all. I tell you what an awesome bread grade. The whole teams on good. I don't think the Lord wants to sit back there. He's got his fall right now. We're gonna raise for the win. You said there was a big difference between now nineteen Ninety-six. You've learned a lot. Is there any advantage for view two guys going into this last rate? There's always an advantage. But you can't really say right now because it'll give it out. But in I think the whole thing that difference is Jim landing road just got involved with the whole family. And and the Lord I'll tell you what you could sit down ten minutes. It's more than just that. They're talk to somebody. He's the man to talk to and it changed. The whole story is let leisure Dhaka's Dale Earnhardt sitting back in land. And we're sitting here. So he ain't going on the radio yell at me. Ron ho today. He starting to feel a lot more calm today than I did in nineteen Ninety-six. So there you have it from the two drivers going for the championship. That's turn our focus to drivers at have a very good strong chance of winning this race. I of which is Mike bliss sitting on the outside of the front row to Jack Spriggs, right? He comes into this race. This will be his final time behind the wheel of the team ASC forty three wins this year. He finished fifth in this race a year ago. It's gotta Tony get Mike bliss thoughts as we close in on the start and Mike bliss miss the poll by just five one hundreds of a second Mike, you chose not to go out in the final practice. You must be very comfortable with this truck. We've been real good with unloaded. We didn't get a chance to test her last year this the new truck, and I it came off the truck real good. Now, I'm pretty happy with it. We only had a half hour practice morning. We learned enough last night when this team was formed. It was kind of a dream team. Jimmy Smith is an owner berry Dotson as crew chief? And you as the driver we figured over those years that we'd be talking to you about a championship run. But it hasn't happened your parting ways, tell us your feelings in your last run with buried Dotson. His crew chief. Well, it's pretty emotional about all the good times you've had and you forget all the bad times. When you're going through all that bad times, you try to look for better things, you probably can't get much better in the truck series of this number two four, and I'm gonna miss it. And I think all of us are gonna miss it. Mike bliss. He starts second today and is quietly the favourite to get the win closing in on the start of today's SAM's town two fifty championship deciding race for the NASCAR craftsman truck series. Just moments away from the command to fire engines for today's SAM's town two fifty from the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. This is the NASCAR truck network. Back in the Las Vegas Motor Speedway that one minute away from the command to start engines. Let's get the thought of the rookie contenders. Greg Bittel Andy Houston, Houston has one wind. Biff has non full tries to even that score today and take the championship. That's I go to Tony Brzezinski. He's the current points leader the votes in your lead went from twelve to one. But now it's time to sell it on the track. Do you feel going into this race feel real good? I mean, the Grainger teams worked real hard top going from twelve point lead the one. But I think we're topping. I think we'll show them. What is about the race? We're we're real good practice today. So I'm excited. Greg Bill currently holds the points lead. The guy chasing him is with Jim Phillips, Ed Houston, you one last night a car. Can you win today in a truck and win that rookie? Really good here. The practice of drought. PNL engine. You know, we're just going to try to win this, right? Eighty houston. The engines have fired onto pit lane in Houston starting side by side in the third row of the event bifida in fifth position Houston to his outside and six the wind. Jim Phillips referring to Houston's victory in the NASCAR. Winston west series race held at Las Vegas here. Last night right now the engines half fire down tracks. I we're getting set to go for the start of the Sam stone to fifty right now drivers having buckled up moving their machines back and forth. Stick a look at the starting lineup. Total forty drivers will go to the green flag starting back in fortieth three McRae in the Sereno Chevy. Thirty ninth Wilson the Lamar four thirty eight this Nipper off the track scans Chevrolet 37th. Randy Renfro in the porter cable four thirty-six this Boris said he's in the federated on parts for thirty fifth, Scott, Hanson, and the nNcholas Gulf Redline. Chevy. Thirty fourth is Brendan gone. The Orleans Chevrolet thirty third. Lance north of the NHL dodge, thirty seconds. Rick Beebe the auto trim designed Ford and thirty first time Hubert and the cyber Dyne tech Chevrolet. Thirtieth star Tony Roper in the ice house. Beer ford. Twenty-ninth Sammy potassium the Dunlop golf Chevrolet Twenty-eight Tammy Jo Kirk Peterson manufacturing Bill Stein Ford with Kevin SuAn ski twenty-seventh in the Bendix Ford. Twenty-six? Mike's defense in the Carlin burgers controls Ford. Scott walters. Twenty-fifth the red man's Chevy. Twenty-fourth is Randy Tolsma on the MCI mo- par dodge twenty-third starter. Rick Crawford in the circle bar motel and RV Ford. Twenty-second is Butch Miller in the Dana dodge in the twenty-first starter. Mike Wallace in the purolator Chevy starting twentieth is Doug, George the Puerta cable Ford nineteenth Brian Rafter, the rich gate Chevrolet eighteenth Dennis sets in the MO dodge seventeenth, Tony. Raines in the Pennzoil Ford sixteenth is Terry cook and the PBA Chevrolet fifteenth. This Kevin Harvick in the spear. Chevy fourteenth is Chuck bound in the hill. Chevrolet thirteenth is Rick Carelli. The Remax Chevrolet starting twelve. Joe Rutland, the Exide Ford and eleventh is Ron Barfield in the Ortho lawn and garden Chevrolet, Ron hor today starts tenth in the Napa Chevy with Jimmy Hensley ninth in the Cummins dodge eighth starter Blake Bainbridge of. Alabama. The Jim Burke auto Chevy, let Stacy content seven than the Royal crown coal of Ford. Six Zante Houston in the Addington racing Chevy with Grainger forty Greg bifida in fifth four starter. Lonnie rush in the Ohio State University Chevy Chase. Arthur the GM good wrench service Chevy front row. Mike bliss outside and the team SE Ford, the bud. Pole winner, Jack Sprague GMAC Chevy. Forty drivers set to go here. The afternoon in the SAM's town two fifty at Las Vegas forty. Nascar's craftsman truck series trucks are on the track. And except for the start of the Samson fifty. Let's pause ten seconds for station identification on the NASCAR truck network. That's car truck network is live at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway with coverage of the SAM's town two fifty the green flag come and right up from the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. This is the NASCAR truck network NASCAR today is produced by the nest car truck network, a division of the motor racing network. For the most biggest Motor Speedway. 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One lap away from the start of the SAM's town two fifty live on the NASCAR truck network drugs making their way to turn one to two let's bring in the fifth and sixth members of our broadcast team covering the action. The exit of turn to is Joe more of Hampton Virginia. Thanks, mike. Good afternoon. Everyone from Las Vegas Motor Speedway over the back of a billboard here about forty feet up in the air with a great view of turns wanted to not a lot of banking here. But it's wide and very much sleepy. Turn to the drugs that come in here wide open plenty of room for side by side racing. The exit to the pit lane is white here at the exit of turn number two will follow the trucks through one or two onto this long back straightaway. Lot of drafting going on down the back straightaway is the trucks committed turn three. They'll be in the view of Rancho Cucamonga California's Dan Hubbard. Great shot to the back stretch here. High atop hill outside of two or three speeds on the backstretch about one hundred eighty miles an hour the draft does come into play. And they briefly roll out of the throttle for the very wide and smooth turns three and four. There are two groups racing here. So we're anticipating exciting side-by-side action. I'll cover it all for your at turns three and four. It's going to be a Goodwin. Ron horrid? Jack, spray going for the championship thirteen points between them and Houston. Greg Biffi going for the rookie of the year title one point between them right now on the flag. Stan Chris Morgan accompanied via Flamingo dancer getting set for the waving the green flag. Here comes the field of the strive green is in the air and the SAM's town two fifty is underway on the brakes spray gets the jump on bike list from the front row. He'll take the lead. Now, we'll have to fend off a challenge for second into one j saw her the challenger there is he dives to the inside of Mike bliss. This is for the second spot while Jack Sprague drives away solder. It's good. Ron through Tarver to now gets the advantage. And the second was issued Jack's breaks down. Down the backstretch. He's opened up a lead of about half a truck like over seconds by j slaughter white list riots third. But here comes Laundy rush challenging for third the outside of turns three and four Italy bliss and rush for third side-by-side rush. Making a bold move in the middle of the corner to get up alongside Mike bliss but bliss s drafting health Greg biff behind him actually, pushing him by rush. So the front five are sprang solder bliss, Bittel and Russian one side by side battle for the seven th position. Ron Barfield outside the hor- today. Digging table the inside of the racetrack there Ted even turn to great white for Barfield to the outside. He will be side by side for seventh. Ridwan horrid right in front of another battle between Lonnie Russian Andy Houston, Houston snicks his Chevrolet down to the bottom of the race track. Trying to shake Lonnie rush for fifth cannot do it. This time around you'll off turn four completing the second lap. Everybody through clean couple of things we need to update you on Stacy Compton crashed in the half hour practice session that they got this morning here at the racetrack got into some oil. He said it was on the. Race track off turn four slap the outside wall with the right side of the RC machine through made repairs. They did not go to a backup truck, though, his machine did just come to the grid. Just before the green flag. Wave other thing is this is two hundred fifty mile race a hundred and sixty seven laps the distance pit strategy. Fuel mileage all that will come into play as we work throughout the afternoon. Here comes the field off turn four to complete laugh three now problems further in the back. Blake bay bridge comes off turn four and slaps into the outside wall does not spend. But everyone will rush to his inside as Blake Bainbridge has a problem that's become the leaders in turn to single file working off to the race. With sixty seven position Andy Houston out of three way battle with Barfield at one and Houston with them. A lot of company down the backstretch throw on Russia that mixes well and Houston gets the worst that he didn't get good by coming off of turn two. Now, Ron horrid. They will work to his outside trying to pass as they exit turn four four truck Lee draft at the moment Sprague's solder lists and. Befo than about fifteen twenty truck links back to what is now a side-by-side race for the fifth position headed into one rush booze down to the inside of the race track. But that's the fast way to work into turn. Number one, Ron Barfield. Thanks. Blows fide a graph that fit position twenty rush falls back in line at six one hundred as all over him is going on on four trucks or kind of mini breakaway. That'll be spread the top spot. Solder in second bliss in third wreck in fourth separating themselves from the rest of the field by about seven truck link. All that racing. Trouble back in turn four mics defend expense around slides up the racetrack through traffic so far. Nobody's hit him cautioned waves for the first time in the event at everybody will get through cleanly, including savannah, Couve manages to not get into the outside wall in the corner. Stanic racing underneath Rick Crawford in the turn. Maybe just got a lesson in superspeedway aero-dynamics as the thing turned around on him. And fortunately for him. He was at one of the whitest tracks on the circuit and kept from getting into the outside wall. And he definitely had his hands full. But a tip of the cap to the drivers behind him. There were scooting to the inside to the outside, but they manage to avoid Mike's defendant who brings out the first caution of the Sam stone to fifteen. Today's broadcast to the Sam style to fifty is brought to you under exclusive radio rights granted by the national association for stock car auto racing to the NASCAR truck network division of em are in radio solely for the private noncommercial. Use of our listening audience and publications reproduction or other use of the description and accounts of this race without the express written consent of the NASCAR truck network is prohibited. We'll go racing and one more lap from the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. This is the NASCAR truck network. You're smart got your own trucking business making it happen. What if I told you there is a place online where you could connect with other smart owner operators, just like you. 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We had the one to go indication before we went to the commercial break but NASCAR has waived off the restart, and we will make at least one more circuit around restart waved off because the number of trucks pitted on the first lap. They could but would not have opportunity to make their stop come off pit road and catch up to the tail end of the field. And so that's why the restart was extended had Doug George on pit road. Tammy Jo Kirk also had Randy Renfro Mike's to finish in Blake Bainbridge all visiting pit road most of trucks. Those trucks were running from the middle toward the rear of the field to really aren't giving up a whole lot of track position here. And now those machines all rejoining the race is we get the signal again in one more lap. We go green stories of the afternoon, real simple championship Sprague and Hornets head to head in this one thirteen points, not a whole lot. In fact, if you go back and look across the history of nascar's major championships. This would be the third closest point race that has ever come down to the final event the closest one that ever. Came down was in nineteen seventy nine in the NASCAR Winston Cup series. Darrell Waltrip led Richard petty by two points going into the final race. The king did win that title. And then in nineteen ninety Dale Earnhardt led Mark Martin by six points for the Winston Cup title. Earnhardt won that championship that day earnhardt's driver horn today and Jack Sprague Brunton head to head here for the title Sprague leading right now and Hornets after having started in the tenth position having picked off three spots in the first eight laps of the event. He's now up into the seventh position three cap. The top ten for you. Jack Sprague leads at lab AJ solder blank bliss. Great biff. Ed, Ron Barfield are the top five Lonnie. Rush has slipped back to six with Ron Hornets. Seventh and Houston eighth. Jimmy Hensley is ninth. And Joe Ruttman round out the top ten right now the field up in turns three and four Ernie. Buck peels the Chevrolet pace truck off the banking. There is one truck down to the inside to get a lap back. That would be Blake Bainbridge. He scrubbed the outside wall. A few laps ago before that caution will update you on his situation in a moment. But the green flag flies lap eight. And. Jax break. It's a great jump on the restart just as he did the initial start pulls out a couple of truck links on Jay solder third-place Mike bliss now gets away from lake blink blink bay bridge. The lap truck he falls in mind in the third position. Bring fourth fifth now Ron Barfield of far field going to work on favorites. After two failed. Moves the inside down. The backstretch will try to put that truck lap downs leaders four in deterrent three Assad making things very very close. Jack sprague. Greg maintains the lead solder Hosver, very close seconds. They race back to the stripe. They come down to the start finish line. Single file all the way back through where Jimmy Hensley runs up to the outside of Lonnie. Rush with drafting help from Joe Ruttman moves on by put Hensley up into the eighth position back into the quarter. Now front seven eight truck. Single file for the back. Here's Mike Wallace. Trying to make a move. This is almost getting pre wide where Carelli dive down the inside hit is three wide offer to woes Puerto racing coming down the backstretch screens of better than one hundred eighty miles an hour. Carelli will take the inside away from Mike Wallis Wallace backs onto the throttle. He had to Rick Crawford and Stacy Compton right there. Give the position to Rick Carelli racing for the twelfth spot on that Carelli goes by also Crawford goes by Compton behind them. Then double wide with Tony Raines and Mike Wallace. They still stay that way racing. Double wide to rose deepened turn one through the front challenge. From the Lee J solder to the side of Jack's break in the quarter trying to pull even with them on the back straight away to Chevrolet's mash down the gas down the backstretch son will have the better entrance into three. And takes the lead here at Las Vegas Motor Speedway. Sprague set. The balance of his truck had to back out of the throttle bliss goes high so to a couple of other truck right now saunas your new leader at a shuffle. Route for the four spot Ron Barfield taken that position away from Greg. Biff Lapa go now here comes biff. Fullback by bringing company with down to the inside of Barfield feels working the inside roof last time to send to the race track. That's where he would like to be now he stuck on the outside and losing spots. Spy pools, and Andy Houston is all over Auster do Warfield and horrid badly down. The backstretch. Al today will back out of the Freidel tuck in line behind Barfield ciders still your leader Jackson second, Mike bliss. Sliding his truck through turn four and third the front. Seven trucks are knows detail tucked up tightly in a draft it solder leading Jack's break. Second Mike bliss third Greg before th Ron Barfield is fifth and horrid is six. Now sprang tries to take a peek for the lead in one looks to the inside of J solder as he does that my list of the outside of spring here stack up double wide for the second spot drag races on four second position give it to bliss. It's gonna have a problem getting back into line solder the top position. Mike, listen, second brick Bittel in third and Jack's brag back on the frontal having a bit of a handling problem turns three and four side by side with Bill for third year comes a challenge for the lead. Mike bliss up to the outside of J solder dead. Even at the stripe now says. Trucks, double wide as they head down to turn one three rows side-by-side coming into the corner up fraud. It sprang the outside lane. That is Mike bliss the outside. Try to get around to take the lead from J sorter sprang me while trapped in line back and forth. He's working based on Barfield top eight trucks budged up like it was the opening lamb bliss will lead them in turn three sonner dies down low a to the inside. It's still biff spread Houston is there. So to his run hundred Ron Barfield side-by-side through turn four. So Mike bliss goes atop the leaderboard at latte fourteen. He and j solder are single file it's double wide for third. Jack Sprague inside of a Greg Bethel double wide for fifth Horta they inside a Barfield working hard down on the inside of the race track. Business struggle the outside lane VIP against the ads. Gordon gets a little push for broad Barfield. Also work outside lane. Logos three y down. The backstretch is Ron horrid a challenge for the third position. Now, he talks back in line. This allows bike list opened up just a slightly over seconds. Jay sonner. By about two truck linked year comes today around the outside of spray as the two title contenders. Now scramble for the fifth position. For today's drafting help anti Houston's behind him pushing him by spray kind of all alone on the bottom lane into turn one today gets the fifth position. And Houston comes by. He grabs the six pot. Jimmy Hensley comes up. He gets the seven. Jack sprang going backwards now faced a challenge from Joe Rutland. Dennis Setzer, just like that. Jack Sprague shuffled back to about the tenth position battling with Joel Ruttman now tax bracket tuck in the line figuring. It's easier to go nose to tail through turns three and four round than finding Joe Roman for position and Jack Sprague who was the race leader will find his way in line in the ninth. Spot at lap seventeen. Mike bliss J solder, Greg before Ron Barfield, Ron Horner. They of the top five with Andy Houston has worked his way up to sixth Jimmy Hensley seventh. Joel Redman eighth Jack Sprague nine than Dennis set. Surround at the top ten lengths Lonnie rush. Recur twelve rig. Crawford thirteenth. Tony. The fourteenth and Mike Wallace's fifteenth just seventeen laps complete here in Vegas while we were away. Some bold moves being made out of the race track. First of which was made by Ron hor today last time by coming down in the trial will on the apron to make a pass to get up at around Jay solder angry before. So now put hor today in second behind race leader Mike bliss at lap nineteen from the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. This is the NASCAR truck network. Restrict to the road home fill up with Sonoda the official you'll of NASCAR Sonoko mixed. High quality performance bills for the greatest drivers in the world both on and off the track. Whether you are pulling up to the pump or experiencing the excitement being track on race day. This will be four tanks. They've already caught it up with Sonoko. May I service complete secondhand Fano fuel and he's down away from trust enough to be the fuel that keeps you going capture. The essence of racing and Philip with the official fuel of NASCAR Sonoko. Folks. Mike Bagley here am R N. We rely on a quick from racing electrons. Laconic scanners in headphones. Listen to every uncensored conversation between driver and crew. And when we need live audio in park cameras and up to the second statistics use their latest hand held unit Paul legend to learn more about these products and many others this racing electron dot com racing electron IX, the official two-way communication partner of them are end back at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. Leaders are on pit road at lap. Thirty two Tony resute today. He takes on right side tires also. Laudi Russia's pulls away. Right side tires might bliss right side tires. Let site tire for VIP before right side tires for Sese company to be down to Jim Philips. The pit lane. You had Joe rut in for service tires Ruttman, also in Kevin Wisconsin land storing differ, also. A wilson. Mike's fanning RIC Carelli all these guys tires right side tires gasoline back on the track. Greg bifida wins. The race off pit road. He was the leader going in great job by Jack's breaks crew. They get him out in second position with Mike bliss third. Ron hor today coming out. Let's see no that solder in fourth and haunted in fifth. Let's check that. Then behind horrid. You've got Ron Barfield in six Tony Raines in seventh. Joe Rudman into the position. Dennis Setzer ninth Jimmy Hensley intent, and that's the way they come off pit road here as we work this yellow flag. Well, Ron horny Jack Sprague locked up in the championship. Chase right now. Sprague posted second Ron Hornets in fifth east driver has taken their turn atop the leaderboard today. Greg biff when Andy Houston locked up in the cintas rookie of the year battle biff has led a lap. Houston has not right now. Bill posted in the lead position while Andy Houston, not having the best of luck on the pit lane. He has all the way back. Back to twelve had a chance to talk to Jack Sprague Ron horrid this weekend about fresher. What kind of pressure? They've been under both are champions in this series as Jack Sprague if this championship has taken a toll on him. Not really I mean going into Phoenix with a twenty eight point lead. And I knew you know, bar in trouble that I was going to be all right? And we had trouble. So they all can control things like as been little goofy things all year, you know, the last half of the year, it's broke on us. And otherwise thing I think it'd be done by now. But you know, I can only control what I can control. And I'm gonna do my job and he's guys don't their job all year, and he no no fault of theirs. The stuff has happened to me freak weird stuff. Now never broke a boost car or seventeen years race. And then we broke one of Phoenix. So and we had our had them covered. Pretty good. You know, we just do what we can do. And if we don't win this thing, we weren't supposed to win it s Ron hor today about pressure, and I said has been any more pressure on you. There was in nineteen ninety six when he won the title. He says. Dale Earnhardt harm me to win championships. That's what I'm here to do. I don't care what either one of wants to say they there was a little bit of tension around the garage area this weekend. The both of them looked a little bit tighter in the face. And they might normally have certainly feeling the pressure of racing head to head for a championship in Las Vegas today. Back racing in one more lab. Let's check down pit road. Dennis Conner the chief for jacks break. You guys were loosened loosen and tied adjustments. Did you make them doing anything change cars? That's the word from Dennis Conner the cookie for Jack Sprague and the crew chief says even been a little tense as well had a chance to spend some time with with Dennis Conner crew chief Jack Sprague also Fred graves crew chief for Ron haunted, and it's unbelievable. The amount of pressure. How much the wickets turned up on everybody concerned not just driving crew chief but team members as well. You know, you work for an entire year to win a championship an entire year. I mean, they started this season in January down at the Walt Disney World speedway. So you've worked now for for eleven months at win. This title and you come down to one one hundred sixty seven lap race where you've got to beat your toughest rival to the finish line. That's pressure. Any one little thing that goes wrong can cost you that title? And you can't let it happen. Feeling feeling that weight on your shoulders is a big deal. And now it's time to turn the wick up on this race. Green flag goes back on the air lap thirty five of the board. Greg biff comes up to the gearbox brings Jack Sprague Mike bliss J solder and Ron horrid with him in one brought five trucks. Now knows the tailgate coming back into the corner. Race is going to be for the six position on the inside of Tony Raines Barfield scores. Six three truck fight for the six position between Barfield rains and Rutland Rutland takes a brief look to the inside of rain nothing doing this time around tucked back in line. Meanwhile, your top five trucks are knows detail off turn four single file up off of the corner. Now as they come to the start finish line. It is biff Lynn Sprague one and two hear sprayed with a peaked out of the inside of biff for the race lead. He'll try down low. And one gets a good round of the front straightaway. Dives deep coming into turnover. One twice the pool underneath Greg bifida. But biff across the slam the door on him here VIP washes up the banking author to and Sprague is on the Rome. Nice point for jacks bread to the inside of turn to and he will take the lead away from Greg Bethel. Now, biff will try to defend seconds slack from Mike bliss. So Bethel dies down low now slides of high bliss has got the good look to the inside. So now, Jack spray we'll go atop the leaderboard first time. He's been there since lap thirteen retakes. The lead lap thirty seven double live for second bifida bliss door-to-door J solder has the best seat in the house. He's trying to fight a lane to pick from bliss nails down on the bottom of race track. Trying to get the good runoff turnover to out powered Rick fifth. Second spot Jay solder sits behind waited to sing which lane will open up side-by-side dead. Even for the second position. Greg bifida outside Mike bliss inside. They'll ride that way. All the way around turns brand four bit pulls out just a slight advantage. Now he'll nail down the second spot. Mike bliss in third ready Renfro is taken his truck back behind the wall after falling laboratory down earlier in the event the hood was up when he was on pit road a little while ago Sprague leading Biffi now the challenges for second is they go to one once again, Mike bliss tries to dive down the inside a Greg Bethel slams door nothing doing their backers Tennis Center back into Matthew Levin. Spot begging three wide going around. Kevin Harvick and Mike Wallace to the free WI down the backstretch sets to the outside. Wallace to the inside back yet will be Harvick know-how Costa side Wallace will back out sesser washes up way, high through turns three and four can't keep the dodge down on the bottom. So now Kevin Harvick and Dennis Setzer will race double wide for the eleventh spot. Hark, had the advantage off the corner kind of shakes the truck down. The apron opens the lane on the outside for sets are now. Mike Wallace stress around the outside of Kevin Harvick censor powers by. Here's Mike Wallace. Make at a similar to the high five of the banking. Also completes passed Harvick. Now, the grips of Tony Roper who closes in from thirteen top. Ten to fifteen truck. Single file coming into turn three and still scrag in the top. Greg Bethlen second spot list again look into the inside tried to wrestle away. Second from Greg. Vittal one truck off the pace Scott Hanson slows down the inside of the race of smoke trailing from behind his machine. He appears to be headed to pit road the front three knows detail with about a truck length back to fourth place Jay solder Arctic back into the corner. Here's Mike bliss now taking the highlight and turnover to he's going after creek this'll for the second spot pulls even the outside lane. Let's have he's got the power on the back. Straightaway list takes away second spot from Greg. Biff Mike bliss lead early on. He wants to lead again sets his sights on Jack's Greg everybody really work in the lower group here through turns three, but is they come into turn for the kind of slide up towards that. Wall sprang still in the lead. Mike bliss runs behind him. Greg biff will third Jay solder fourth Ron Barfield fifth round horrid restarted the segment of the race in the fifth spot. He has slipped back to eighth we continue under the green at lat forty-one here and in Los. Vegas continue under the green flag here at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. Jack Sprague and Mike bliss continued to show the way double wide racing for the third spot. Joe more gets a little testy to feeling Greg fitful bait contact Barfield wittily outside actually Barfield was had the inside lane VIP contact and Ron nearly hurt his truck around safe it, but he's gonna lose about three spots in the process battle for third side by side and a tooth three before between j Sutter and Greg biff Lanao now Ron horrid they wants to make that a three truck flight and those drivers all setting in motion by a little aero dynamic wiggle Barfield trying to run into the corner in pitch it down low for that position. And had some air take off the rear spoiler on that. But sheen had to slide up the racetrack to save it. And it is set that whole scramble in motion. Forty four laps complete Jack Sprague, Mike bliss J solder. Greg billund? Ron hor today are the top five for the moment and for the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. This is the NASCAR truck network. Back at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. Mike bliss lead is now nine point the actually point nine seconds over Jack Sprague as they come across the start finish line. Greg. Biff behind them in third all working traffic, there gap has lengthened do about five seconds over Ron hor today in fourth. Rod Barfield ran up top five. Joe more the leaders few minutes. Go had some problems getting around the lap traffic over there. Turn to bundled up a little bit coming up some slower traffic a lot of times when that happens. You're not sure where the slower trucks are gonna go. So you had to kind of plan your your move and move according to what they do in that case it appeared that Blake Kramer, another trucks just in front of the race leader's change their mind and a witch lane. They were going to run in leaders had to go wide at the last moment, so close call cleanly got by some of those who've gone a lap down here. Recent moments. Brendan gone Nipper, Elsa Rick McCray. Boris said Tammy Jo Kirk long Sammy potassium and Blake Bainbridge. The truck's not on. On the lead lap here. As by continues to set a rather blistering pace here in the early going. It is bliss Jack Sprague Greg biff Ron horny Ron Barfield the top five followed by Joe Rudman J solder, Andy, Houston, Tony Raines, and Tony Roper who is moved up into the tenth position after starting back in thirty. So the beer wagon the ice house machine on the move here in the early stages at Las Vegas, but we are still shy of halfway in lot of racing still to go as far as a championship and rookie of the year. A concerned the two main stories in this things looking okay Farrand Horta end Jack Sprague right now, they're both up there in the front of things and the thick of the fight for the win. But again, a lot of miles left to go and some more pitstops to be made pit strategy will be a key factor in today's race. Check you Tony Zuhdi in and get the thoughts of some of the cruise down there about what they're saying about perhaps. Maybe when the next pit stop will be and update us on some of the trucks there on the racetrack. Well, got a chance to talk to for graves the Kirti for Ron Hornets. Didn't give me any insight as to win. They might Pitt. But did mention the run today is reporting that the truck just a little loose. They changed right side tires back on left thirty two. They're waiting to chase those left site tires left side tires a little warn. They still had the points lead as they sit now. So there's no reason to push it run today just writing waiting for the caution. And again if the race Rodin now haunted would win the championship by three points. He runs in fourth and Jack Sprague runs in the runner up position. You know, something else due to factor in there. If you're a follower of NASCAR racing. And your mindset is kind of on the NASCAR Winston Cup series way of doing things. There are no bonus points here in the NASCAR craftsman truck series for leading the most laps or leading laps. So it's not really important as far as the championship is concerned that both Sprague and Hornets have led today, nor is it important, which one of them might score. The most laps led that doesn't factor in. It's very plain and simple. There are no bonus points for laps late or most laps led the. The race winner gets a one hundred eighty points in from there. It goes down by ten points to second spot, which is one seventy and then it goes down by five for a number of positions and then four and then three and so on but no bonus points to worry about. So the drivers just truly needing to keep an eye on each other right now Ron horrid they should love his position. He is on the race track. In the fourth spot and has clear racetrack in front of him and behind him for now Brown Barfield in the fifth spot. The closest truck next to him is about fifteen trucks in arrears to the Napa Chevrolet at lap. Seventy eight Mike bliss continues to lead his lead being cut off a little bit working through that lap. Traffic now down to about a half a second. And should he be leading at the halfway point lap? Eighty four pick up. The Gatorade front rudder award two thousand dollars from Gatorade the official sports beverage of NASCAR going to the driver leading and halfway just four laps from now race for the lead tightening up considerably as the leaders work lap, traffic, what was nine tenths of a second. Vantage now down to just a truck length. Yeah. Mike Lynch has had a problem with traffic through turns one and two and now down the backstretch that has allowed Jack Sprague to really close the gap. Only one truck link separates the top two spots that come off turn four. Tony Roper running at the tenth spot takes his truck off. The racetrack comes down to pit lane for service at lap seventy nine now at lab eighty Jack Sprague putting on the pressure Mike bliss now trying to fend off Sprague and get around lap traffic at the same time in turn one following the tire tracks of Mike bliss as he works his way inside and outside of latte. Traffic you're go out wide alternative or to it spread is less than a truck link off the deck of the race leader, they disposed of Tom Huber now to the outside of turn to they've got some clear racetrack in front of the next man. We'll be Scott Walters, but he's about five or six truck links in front of them for the moment. Mike bliss continues to lead Jack sprays pit road. And find out the reason for the Tony Roper. Stop onto the green flag. I would say that's an unscheduled visit in their Tony. Well, we haven't heard quite yet on it L in the crew did a little looked a little surprise when he came in. In. We'll try to get an update for you here in a little bit. So at lab eighty one field comes off turnover. Four working their way back to the start finish line. Mike bliss now still feeling the heat from Jack Sprague, although after they've gotten around the lap traffic, those two separated now by about two truck links that's ten seconds for station identification on the NASCAR truck network. The NASCAR truck network is live at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway where the NASCAR craftsman truck series runs. The SAM's town two fifty Mike Bagley alongside Alan best. Wick Joe more and then Hubbard are in the corners with Tony Zuhdi and Jim Phillips in the pin garage areas. So far this is a race that as currently into the hands of might bliss. The lead has been swapped total of six times a month. Four drivers right now. Mike bliss leading Jack Sprague by one half second. Greg biff Ron hor today and Ron Barfield ran up top five we've completed eighty two laps here in Las Vegas. Whatever you drive wherever you go. Hercules tires will get you there. 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Joe Robin running out the top five Tony Raines, a sixth. Ron Barfield is seventh J solder is eight Andy, Houston ninth. Mike's to Fanta crowds out the top ten Levin has pushed Miller. Dennis Setzer is twelve Jimmy Hensley thirteen Mike Wallace fourteenth. Terry Cooke runs in the fifteenth position got third truck in the garage. And apparently out of the race. We go to Jim Phillips for more on that the way you to end the season, Brian Rafter what happened? Well, it's terrible. Shame this ridge gate mortgage. Mike Clark, what me and this right here and some in drive line just decide to give up the ship. Yeah. Pretty long race pretty tough race on equipment. And is is just too bad for this team. You know, they were trying to trying to come on here with a decent finish in. You know? We'll just have to go on from here. Bland Rafter will not finish this afternoon. Third truck out of the race. Joining. Randy Renfro and Scott Hanson as those machines who are in the garage on the lead lap at this point of the forty starters. We have twelve machines Mike bliss, Greg bifida, Jack Sprague Ron Hornets in Joe Rudman, Tony Raines, Ron Barfield J solder and Houston. Mike's defending push Bill. Dennis censor those on the lead lap after the exchange of green flag pitstops. So the stops really kind of spread the field out here. We had what thirty something on the lead lap. Not all that long ago. Yeah. Right now. Green flag pitstops have put many of truck a lap in arrears and more right now here in Las Vegas. Mike bliss continuing to be the class of the field. He leaving the team ASC Ford guys at the end of the season looking to pursue other driving interest. Joe more one driver looking to pursue the lead. That's great Biblis close-knit online concern too was definitely chop down the disappear of the last maybe five lamps or so closing it now to the three four truck links and for now this kind of forward the tire tracks of bliss back to earth three and there's plenty of racing. Ru. In front of the both of the Mike bliss will not encounter lap traffic for at least a couple laps for the moment. Mike list is in front of brick Bittel by a truck length and a half race for sixth. Seventh and eighth with physician changing hands a moment ago here in the front stretch is Ron Barfield moves his way back toward the front. He gets around. Tony Raines, nj solder support Barfield up to six with Sada's seven and Raines back into the eighth position right now things fairly well spread out for the moment. The trucks that are racing for positions kind of broken down into groups of two and three after that series of pitstops the front to running about a truck length apart. Then you've got a pretty good distance back to third and fourth and they are four or five truck links apart and those to the key positions at the moment. That's Jack Sprague Ron hor today in third and fourth championship. There of Sprague were to finish third and a fourth Ron would win the title by some eight points right now, spray got his hands full in a group of lap trucks. He tries to split those machines into the corner wide now coming. Back into the third Jack Sprague mixes boop by Randy tolls. Takes the high lane. Now, pull the Baltimore trucks. Jimmy Hensley one of those spray kinda boxed with insulin front tells out of the side. Spring is boxed in for the moment. This may allow Ron horrid close the gap. But it's not working. Yet sprang gets around. Rick Beebe now toxin behind Jimmy Hensley has Lee knows. He's there goes up high Jaques breath will take the inside line away. Jack Sprague again running in third and around lap. Traffic. Ron horrid to his rear right now. Sprague having the luxury of three lap trucks between he and horn today right now challenge for the lead is a good one off turn to Mike bliss makes the move around shock bound, Greg. Biff Lewis on his rear bumper headed to three very very close. Now for the league knows to tailgate into turn three to get around. Chuck bound list will try to protect that lower line cannot do it. Drifts up gets a little bit sideways list. Counter steers, say's the truck amazing job. Now Grech biff will take lead to the outside rate. Save by Mike bliss off turn four had the machine at least four. Eighty five degrees sideways managed to keep it in the right direction. He will give up the top spot though to Bill in one see if he can recover he's fallen back by about five truck lakes Danka brick Bethel fissile makes his way off the quarter moves away. But he's got heavy traffic. Just ahead. Greg Bevill try to run away high now in the Grainger four, but he will have heavy traffic. He gets around the first one in Sammy tastic, but he's going to have to deal with three lap trucks. Coming off of turn four bliss now about seven to eight truck links back that was a glove. Save a beauty by Mike bliss coming off a turn for the truck was just about sideways any almost lost it able to hang on. But nonetheless gives the lead to Greg. Biff oil in Bethlehem scampered away by one point three seconds over Mike bliss list, now working around some the lap traffic that he had previously passed. Now, we look back to Jack's rake who has broken free of the lap traffic. He's fine and dandy. Joe more looks like Ron they is now has his hands full with lap trucks. Two trucks just ahead of him. Here. He goes to work on that traffic diving to the end side is exit turn to down the backstretch come. Ron Hornets takes away the inside line from Rick Beebe haunted tucks in behind Jimmy has. This is exactly the same smile. Jack Sprague had to encounter Hornets not close up the spread but still keeping him within eyesight. One hundred and eleven laps on the board. Fifty six to go in the NASCAR craftsman truck series season. Jack Sprague Ron hor today racing head to head for the title separated on the race track. By only one position at the moment. Race leader. Greg. Biff allows lead is one point seven seconds over Mike bliss, Jack Sprague, Ron horrid Joe Rutland. The top five got just fifty four laps to go here in the SAM's town two fifty for the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. This is the NASCAR truck network. From the restrict to the road home fill up with Sonoko the official you'll of NASCAR Sonoko mixed. High quality performance bills for the greatest drivers in the world both on and off the track. Whether you're pulling up to the pump or experiencing the excitement being the track on race day. This will be four, thanks. They've already caught it up with Sonoko may I service complete second canon Sonoko fuel and he's out at away from trust enough to be the fuel that keeps you going capture. The essence of racing and Philip with the official fuel of NASCAR Sonoko. Fifty two laps to go in the Sam sound to fifty here at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway where the lights are on. We are under heavy cloud cover non of big threat of rain or anything. We're just fine in that department, but they have lit up the track and actually the track looks quite nice right now all in Scots in Moscow ninety son getting ready to set here, the western sky in this race will finish under the cover of darkness and right now. Greg biff out in front his head to head flight with Andy Houston, the cintas rookie of the year championship will biff elites the race Houston his back in ninth on the lead lab, but not performing as well as he would like at this stage of the events get a quick rundown through the field. Greg VIP leads Mike bliss, second two and three ten seconds behind him with Jack Sprague third Ron horn a fourth and Joe Ruttman v j solder is sixth. Ron Barfield seven. Tony Raines eighth anti Houston is nine and Dennis Setzer is the final machine on the lead lab in tenth position. Which Miller is eleventh. Mike's defense is twelve Jimmy Hensley thirteenth Terry cook fourteenth and Doug, George. Fifty Mike Wallace's sixty Kevin Szewinska. Seventeenth recovered team. Lonnie? Rush nineteenth and Kevin Harvick. Twentieth. Twenty-first Stacy Compton. Lance, nor X twenty-second Scot Walters. Twenty-third Rick Carelli twenty fourth two laps down Brenton gone twenty fifth. Tom Hubert in twenty-six Wilson. Twenty-seventh Rick BBN twenty eight Randy Tolsma in twenty nine and Rick McCray. In thirtieth three laps down. Chuck bound thirty first Boris said and thirty second Nipper outs in thirty third. Tammy. Jo Kirk six laps down thirty fourth seven laps down. Sammy tastic thirty fifth ten laps down late Bainbridge in thirty six Brian Refner. Tony Roper, Scott Hanson. Randy Renfro are all behind the wall. And that is the full field with forty nine laps to go. Very competitive race. Total of eleven lead changes among seven drivers, another lead in the hands of great biff Elit laugh one eighteen let's check on fit road and get a story from Tony Zuhdi standby by with Barry Dodson barrier driver. Mike bliss had a good size lead. Almost lost it over here in turn four what? Happened. People got up owners took all air L spoiler. Not as smart, but it's not hard to give you know, real fast taking it easy right now. We're pretty that's the word from Barry Dodson crew chief for the TV ESI Ford for Sperry and Mike bliss, most likely to be leaving that what we know. Mike bliss is buried dots. Told me this weekend is likely he is going to be splitting with the team AFC operation at the end of the year as well to do other things. And so this quite an emotional day for that team. Driver crew chief owner, Jim Smits and the rest of the operation as they get set to wrap up their tenure together in this NASCAR craftsman truck series right now running second two and a half seconds behind leader. Greg biff, oh, the NASCAR craftsman truck series is a team sport. Even the driver can't win without the professional technicians that build and maintain. These NASCAR trucks federated on parts with lots of recognize some of the special people behind the scenes in today's race Ron today. Jack Sprague are the title contenders. For the nineteen ninety. Eight NASCAR craftsman truck series championship. In is with their teams, hard, work, and dedication that have put them in contention for the Champions Trophy. Here are the members of each team. I the team of the Napa break Chevrolet driven by Ron Hornets. I am Fred Greaves crew chief. Hi, my name's Joe Johnson. Fabricator time my name's Mike, Lance and on the show truckdriver. Hi, I'm Dave S. Look, and I'm the engine tutor. I berry Haley, I'm in charge of shocks. Hi, I'm Ron graves. I do the tires of Steve darn rear tire or dental mechanics. Hi, Scott with fabricator gasman. Hi, I'm seventy Ginzalo. It's Geno mechanic and tire carrier. Hi, I'm Gordon arbiter. I'm the transmission specialist. Hi. I'm Darren Norfleet. I'm truckdriver spotter. Tom is Wesley sherline on McCain, man. And here is the team of the GMAC Chevrolet driven by Jack Sprague. Hi, I'm Dennis Conner an arm. The crew chief? I'm my name's Eddie O'Hare. I take care of the tires on raising. Hi, I'm Joey Arnold in general mechanic. Hi 'em. How chip Marshon? I'm the engine tuner and the tar. Burial race day. I'm desk Rockville. I'm the primary truck driver and assist with fueling. Curtis diffult. And I am the backup truck driver in Jack, man, I'm Dave carrier, general mechanic. Hi, I'm Shane Wilson. I'm a chassis specialist. Reindeer fabricator gasman on race day. Hi, I'm David down. I'm paying by specialist. Hi, I'm Tony wet. I do suspension brakes and change your tires on race day. Hi, I'm Alex guide radio broadcasts on pit road. Come some of the front runners and Houston just got overtaken by the leader a moment ago. Put a lap down. Now that too man in the rookie of the year. Competition comes in for a visit the stop lamp one Twenty-three. Rick Carelli was just on pit road. Kevin Harvick and Mike Wallis. Also just in. Let's go to Jim Phillips. She Jim went back into the garage to get a story force. Let swing Tony Rudy right side tires going on the anti Houston truck right now, they got a can of seventy six racing fuel in their cleaning off the front grille right now in the NASCAR fissile is holding any Huston. So it's up break there for the second generation driver from hickory, North Carolina. His. Tommy Houston veteran for many years in the NASCAR Busch series and Houston right now running back to the running order not having the lucky would like here and the SAM's town to fifty at lap. What twenty four Greg biffin's lead is now three point three seconds over Mike bliss bliss advantage over Jack Sprague is four and a half seconds. Sprague's advantage over Ron horrid and fourth is five seconds. Today's advantage over Joe Ruttman in fifth is now six seconds. So the front five pretty well. Spread out. We've got forty two laps to go in the Samson to fifty Joe Rudman who runs in fifth is on the pit lane. Now, Jack spray who is running in the runner up position actually running in third on pit road. We will recap these stops in a moment with one hundred twenty seven laps in the books. Greg biff continues to lead from the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. This is the NASCAR truck network. Back in the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. Starting green flag. Pitstops one hundred twenty nine laps around the board. Let's go to Tony Zuhdi Ethel flights the green four, and it's going to be a right side tire j I can't seventy six racing. Fuel is in right side tires are. Now, the second hand going into struck in a way, it goes biff home also with Jack Sprague he took on right side tires as well as today. Right side tires fueled in the garage, Jim Phillips, Tony Roper. Tony good afternoon. What happened? Well, we broke a motor. We were having a great afternoon. We started thirtieth, and we were all the way up to ten so we did that under green. It was awful. Good racecar little tight. We just want to make some adjustment. And we come in and pitted. And went back out. It was pretty darn good. And. I guess about five left in the motor start going away. But you know, I want to think sell everybody on the team they work really hard. And it was today there in the race with the best part of the weekend. We had an awful good truck. I think we had a top five truck really just didn't happen today. I guess we'll. Regroup. Get back out. Until the end of the day for Tony Roper Joe represent the left side tires last time became on lap. One twenty eight change two right side tires time. Joe Ruttman his service. He's back on the track. And they're more pitstops in front of Tony Zuhdi Lonnie. Rush comes in. They're gonna take ties on his truck. The right side tires are on the fuel going in and Lonnie rush. Now problem with the right front come with a leg net on the right front. In fact, they're still hoping Russ tough break for lunch rush that with a long stop the leader is Mike bliss. He has not yet made is stop two pit road. Second is Ron Barfield third is Dennis Setzer. Then it'll cycle back to Greg. Biff oil who will be in fourth position for the moment. Here's Barfield dropping off the racetrack onto pit road for his stop got thirty five laps to go here as Barfield pits. Also coming in behind him will be the leader. Mike bliss submits come down pit road lap one hundred thirty three keeping an eye on Dennis Setzer at to see if he will come down pit road. This time. Or go on by to take over the top spot. And no indication yet from sets or whether he'll pit as he still works. His way around the speedway Barfield in list is working his way toward his pit stall. And again these visits to pit road with thirty four laps to go. We go to Tony Zuhdi might bless their wave in the manner here for where he asked five thousand second year list is in very goes around checks up the right side. It'll be right side tires for Mike bliss and this'll be their final. Stop today. Second Kanter racing. Feel going in right now berry steering. Jaggi bliss is away. So Mike plus goes back out on the race track and Mike lists. Now will stay the leader as he basically had a full lap advantage on everyone else. Some who came in some who did not. And it will cycle back to Dennis Setzer. This time by coming off turnover. Four although sets are now will opt to come to the pit lane at lap one thirty three and as they cycle back to the line. This time the lead will still be in the hands of Mike bliss again, we're in the middle of green flag, pitstops let's cover Dennis Setzer. Stop as thou. Great Bill will take the lead lap. One. Thirty four sets comes down the pit lane Forty-five miles an hour. Very slowly. Now second gear cover his stop with Tony resuting, the mo- par. Shifted smart lip front Valence still flapping in the wind. But it'll be all right side tire change for Dennis Setzer. This theme I hope for today. The aero dynamic problem is kinda murked them from getting up front, but they still hope for good finish right side tires finish and Dennis Sutter's away. Here comes riffle to the start finish line. He has an advantage over Mike bliss as we wait for bliss to come to the stripe, here's bliss. Now. The difference is six seconds between first and second spots things spreading out a little bit. After that pitstop. I guess also of importance out is that Ron hor today stayed within one position of Jack Sprague Sprague is third. Horrid is fourth at this point. So again, haunted pacing Sprague and in position to hang onto the championship. If he can go to pit road Heston sits pulled away that we were talking about flying off the truck pieces of metal in tabling on pit road. We'll see how that all back. Assessor? That's not what you're looking for their you want every bit of aerodynamic advantage. You can get and loosen. The that piece of sheet metals not can help Dennis Setzer continues to trickle back through the running order right now posted in the eleventh position we have thirty one laps to go. And Greg vittles lead. Now is seven seconds over Mike bliss. Jack Sprague is third. Ron haunted a fourth Jimmy Hensley fifth. Joe Ruttman J solder Stacy Compton. Butch Miller at Ron Barfield are the top ten right now. Barfield falling way behind there after his visit to pit road. He's no longer on the lead lap. He's back in tenth position. We have eight trucks on the same lap of the race leader one of them. Stacey comptons, and I don't believe he's made a visit to pit road yet. Here this cycle of stops. He's kind of hanging out there. Wait for caution flag to see if he can get a break. But so far nothing doing there for Compton. And eventually he will have to make a final visit to pit road in this race stops came kinda early. I didn't think they would be in quite so soon they are only about forty laps after the last set of. Pitstops? I'd been told by most of the teams to expect around sixty laps would be their fuel range. So maybe they figure that the racist gone green so much. They haven't used the set of tires. They might as well get them while they can might as well take advantage of the situation right now. Twenty nine left to go the shaky with Tony Brazilian and basically see if the crews have indicated anything to him about the early these pit stops that we just saw a few laps ago. Well, let's talk to the crew chief of the race leader wreck Bittel Randy gos-, those pitstop seemed to be a little early. What's the strategy behind that? Well, I guess what's this year when he was fast enough to win. We just want to play it safe today. I think he's got the truck to win. Taylor. Great. Hope we hang on guys from what I could tell up here when the Grainger team jumped up on the wall, everybody else kind of look suit said if the leader's coming in we have to match mother, no way, we can beat him. So that the story there from pit road. Rick Carelli is in hood is up on that machine. Smoke showing out from behind in a follow up there shortly right now with twenty eight laps to go the top five or Greg biff. Mike bliss, Jack Sprague Ron hor today and Joel Rudman with Hore today. Just one spot behind sprayed in position to try and claim the series championship. If he can finish that way. Twenty six laps to go in the Sam town to fifty here. The Las Vegas Motor Speedway. Great biffin's lead. Now, eight point four seconds over Mike bliss, Jack Sprague, Ron horn. And Joe Ruttman of the top five three and right now Ron horny would be champion just one position behind spraying from the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. This is the NASCAR truck network seventeen laps to go in the Sam sound to fifty here loss. Vegas right now pitstops are happening. For the truck's a lap or more down. Tony zuni. You had some trucks on the last time by including one j solder who's coming in. Again. What was the situation? There was this a little bit of strategy being played out you think like test Shay solder, but I do have very dots. Here. Bury your roll the dice. I was first time. You've changed left side tires. I guess you really had no choice. Well, the. Goodyear tires are excellent luck. I said earlier we shut little bit up a little bit of wear on the right side. Come so, cool and decrypt is excellent. So we had too many hatestock allow. This plenty of rubber on. But just what when when a rubber when a rubber goes away, they get cooled. You're the tires are hot. So we need to we need to make them happy with the left side tires. You think you have something for the wind? That's the word from Barry. Dodson the interesting to see we have on the lead lap seven trucks. So bliss is going to be fifth on the restart only behind four machines who are on older tires than he now. Remember, it's not like he's got four fresh tires only to fresh tires not quite as big an advantage as if he had four but still we're gonna find out here and just another lap. What to fresh tyres will be worth. They'll be sixteen fifteen laps to go. And we go back racing. And just those seven machines on the lap three of them with fresher tires on one side of the truck than the other good. Get kind of interesting. Oh, yes. Especially with Jack Sprague running in second, Ron Horta. They running third if you're just joining us those to have basically been in eyeshot of one another all day long and Ron holiday needs to keep Jack Sprague as close to him as possible Jack Sprague once Ron hor today as far away from him as he can possibly get and with just fifteen apps to go, those two running those detail thing. Could get bit dicey. Remember today as the master of the restart. We've seen him many a time coming down for three and flag hill pass five six seven trucks at one clip. Although I would say he would take the conservative approach towards this restart right now as they double up on the back straightaway. The complicating factor for the race leader's is they're going to have about a dozen trucks out of the inside of them in that inside lane that have stopped for fresh tyres and are going to be trying to roar back from a lap down. You Tony Raines inside of leader Bill you've got Dennis Setzer inside of Jack Sprague, and you've got about four of them all jockeying for the spot inside of Ron Hornets up there in turn three and the black flag is going to be flying for both Mike's to fan again, Terry cook in the moment. Those drivers kind of jockeying their way into line. You don't double up to the left win. It's one lap to go to green. So those two drivers will be posted on the black flag will be flying for them in a couple apps time. Green flag in the air. Fifteen to go is they come to the stripe. Greg Bill, Jack. Sprague run horrid Joe Rudman. And then Mike bliss the top five let machines to their inside. They head for turn one on the outside lane. Now finally before gets around the first of those latte trucks, which is Tony Raines still the second place fan Jack break third place lawn or today works the outside lane off turn to fields storms are way down. The backstretch is still Bittel showing away. Jack Sprague and second Ron horrid a very very close third. Joe Rodman in fourth. Get shuffled back behind some of the lab. Trucks and holiday starts to lose track of Jack Sprague right now horrid running in third is falling into the clutches of lap traffic and Joel Ruttman road all the way down the APR and try to make it three wide that two sets inside that's still a hornet's nest back to the corner couldn't quite squeeze down on the inside of Dennis Setzer. So for now, he'll fall back in line behind a big puff of smoke. Further. Back. Terry goes up at a point spoke overturned, number two. He slows traffic scatters to clear auction is on the speedway fourteen apps to go. The caution. Flag comes out at lap. One fifty three for Terry Cooke. Evidently, having a problem under the hood of the PBA Chevrolet off of turn four right now. Dennis Setzer and Tony Raines start to jockey to get their lap back. They do not Greg. Biff will lead them back to the start finish line. And definitely the close call there as they had a Jamel the brakes to avoid running into Greg Bill, but we are under caution for the fourth time of the afternoon coming out for a problem in turn to for Terry. You think of that race back to the caution? Jack Sprague was having nightmare. Flashbacks Phoenix truck. Trying to raise him back to the good into the side ripped up the air dam. I mean, I'm sure he was looking all around saying don't get near me. Please the yellow flag fourth time in the event comes out with thirteen to go. We'll take a break and come back for the Finnish. We continue under the caution flag as safety crews pick-up some debris lay down by Terry Cooke who had a problem over and turns one and two while they tend to that drivers right now. Coming down the pit lane include Jimmy Hensley, BA Wilson, and Butch Miller making funnel pitstops. We've just got twelve laps to go. Oh from the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. This is the NASCAR truck network back. The Las Vegas Motor Speedway. We have one lap until we go back to the green flag. And when that green flag comes out. We will have ten laps to go to decide. The winner of the SAM's town two fifty the nineteen ninety eight NASCAR craftsman truck series champion all to be decided in these next ten laps here in the desert sevada should be good show. Interesting to see if rod Horta they lost touch with Jack sprang on the last restart. See if he knows maybe how he can keep up their wit sprig, maybe get up there and see if he can keep his much ground close to spray as possible. He didn't need to keep up with him. He just needs to keep the guys behind him on the lead lap from passing him. That's the trick right now. If hor today finishes one spot behind Sprague wins the championship by eight points. If Rudman gets by him that takes it down to three if bliss gets by him well for Ron horrid that would not be something he wants to think about because that would put the point lead back in his brakes hand, all that assuming Sprague is not. Able to pass Greg biff oil if he is if Sprague will pass before and win the race. Ron holiday has to finish second to clinch the championship. Ten laps to go. Chris Morgan waves. The green flag were back underway here in Vegas lap. Trucks out of the inside get the better job than leader. Greg Bip Tony Raines and Dennis Setzer now up in front of Bip Bip tries to stretch out his lead on spray rallies back at the outside to get by Dennis Setzer. Still though, it is Tony Raines in front of him. And here's Bill diving to the inside of the racetrack taking a shot at Todi rates. But Raines is strong ale Novak straight away to spots remain static. You'll be Greg. Biff will in the top spot Jack Sprague in second battle on for third as Joe Rama's trying to make it interesting on line. Ron horrid horrid again, did not get a good start and Rutland looks to take third away from Ron now they try to make it three wide and today, let's Ruttman go, but they make contact here. The trial. Will rub it in a bounce off one another run. We'll go by put horrid a back to the fifth spot move. The fourth here with just nine laps ago. The leaders are into they come back off the corner. Greg biff whole time for the inside of Tony Raines twined again by their dead but off turn to fifth in the top spots. Brag is second now Rudman his third will keep an eye on Hornets to see if Mike bliss can get around. And for the moment dies down low trying to put latte trucks between himself and Mike Wallace. And Mike bliss has a ways to go before. He'll catch up to Ron hor today if he can get by Sprague finish his second Sprague wins. The championships breaks got better than that. In mind. He wants to lead try to clear the lap trucks and get a shot at Greg biff into one in a Setzer sits in between Jack Sprague and race leader. Greg Bill coming back to the corner here he goes shopping to the side of data center Twi to get by him while he doesn't missiles able to drive away. Brag try to pull even with sesser. Who again is a lap truck. They come into turn three Sprengel have the better line. Now, we'll put sets behind them. So nothing now stands between Sprague and the leader. Greg Bethel, Jack Sprague off turnover. Four works out of the inside of Tony Raines and. Dennis Setzer Sprague has clear shot of Greg. Bifida win the SAM's town two fifty third is Joe Ruttman. Joel Rutland is fourth J solder is fifth. Single file ACTA turn one, right? Bethel has about four truck linked lead over Jack Sprague, nowadays cleared all the lap. Traffic. Question is have enough time to chase him down. He's wanted this tire. Tracks on the back straightaway headed three Greg Bethel mashes down the gas down the back straightaway into turn three Sprague really close the gap spread taking early apex deterrent three. And now we have a truck link separate himself from the leader Sprague has got a pass. Greg. Biff oil or J solder is got a pass Ron horrid for spray to win the title to the stripe. They come six laps to go. Jimmy Hensley is around solder. Now he goes after day. This could be the championship into one look down to the inside of Ron Horta. David hor today takes it all the way to the bottom of the race track. Meanwhile, brought hairspray gold after Greg Bethel crossed the side fifth whole cuts to jets took a brief look then thought better of tux back line. They're single file into turn. Three again, spread takes a lower line. And Bethel what the Grainger Ford appears to be handling very very well. From turns three and four methyl still has the lead. The nail biting has commenced in the pink Araj areas of Jack Sprague and Ron hor today and Greg biff as well bills going for his first ever NASCAR craftsman truck series win. He's got a former series champion on his back bumper with five laps to go break as they're riding along the second spot looking again down the inside of breakfast for a chance to get by this time he will step out as he hits the turn three the rookie. Greg bifida trying to win his very first NASCAR craftsman truck career win just in front of Jack's brecca's now Jek spread closes onto the back bumper of rectal there goes to tailgate back to the strife Sprague pressing hard. Jimmy Hensley is pressing Ron hor today for their position the fourth spot to the start finish line four laps to go in the season spring, again looks low on for the lead into one takes it all the way down to the bottom of the race racket returned everyone to keep that lane from opening up for Jack Sprague. Meanwhile, quakes loose further back what truck hits the outside wall. Villers slams Florida. The wall here number two everyone's standards to get wild. Inside caution is on the speedway four laps to go four lapsed ago. And we are under caution for Brandon gone who has crashed in turn number two. They come off of turnover. Four Dennis sets is trying to get his lap back and will not do it. So we will race back to the caution flag with dentists are not able to get his as lap back from race leader. Greg biff oil and unlike other NASCAR series such as Winston Cup and the NASCAR Busch series. We will finish under the green flag. We will not end under caution. Therefore, adding more pressure to these drivers as Nyla thick that we're going to have a Greenway checker fish while an amazing finish of the NASCAR craftsman truck series season. Cautioned flag-waving with three laps to go. Let's go back and recap. The cause of the yellow with Joe Mawr turns one and two random gone came racing at turnover warnings work in the outside lane to clear some traffic. He got into the loose stuff. At his truck broke loose. The back end nearly came back around and gathered it back in than it bounced off the outside retaining wall at the entrance of turn number two bounced back out of the running lane that hit it again here just near the exit of turn to they pulled him from the truck. He's walking down under his own power to the ambulance. He seems to be okay. But his truck is done a couple of things to think about here when we do go back. Green flag racing. It will be a single file restarts. None of the lap. Trucks will be up there in the mix. It'll just be the seven machines on the lead lap in single file at the green flag. It'll be Greg Bill. Jack Sprague Joe Rudman Ron horrid Jimmy Hensley J solder, Mike bliss. Those seven trucks will be all there in formation in single file when we do go back racing four Bronkhorst. Boy, he's got to be sweating. This went out after losing the spot. Joe Ruttman now Jimmy Hensley applying pressure to him before the caution flag and how about the rookie, Greg. Biff just holding off all kinds of pressure from Jack Sprague defending series champ. Trying to win a title if he can win the race. And. And with seeing this the way it's gone down to the last few laps between full and Sprague. It looks very reminiscent to a race earlier the year at the Texas Motor Speedway just outside of Dallas those who were the class of the field there, and there were problems with Jack spinning across the infield grass. And right now, they are in position as they were in Texas right now, although it's four win with Gregg biff oil and Jack Sprague right now the top of the leaderboard Mike bliss on pit row. Let's get an update from the team ASEP. Let's let's get a word with the Randy Gosse what he's telling his driver. Greg biff. Okay. Randy it's down for the marble. It's down for the money. What you tell you rookie driver. Well, I told them make sure we get down to first lap under dream to get down here on the white line. And and hopefully, you know, Sprague's going to be looking at where the sixteen is. And he's probably going to be about three abreast down here with him. So we get around. I turn on like, we'll be. All right. He's done a great job today. The whole teams don't agree job. No matter what happens. I'm proud of these guys really has done a great job a lot of pressure out there and the young man is handled. It very very well cleaning up from a caution flag crash involving Brendan gone up intern. So one and two that is put us out of the yellow flag for the fifth time in the race. In his set up a green white checker shoot out to decide. The NASCAR craftsman truck series championship back for the finish in a minute. Apple lap away from a two lap. Shootout in the Samson to fifteen. Let's pause ten seconds for station identification on the NASCAR truck network back at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. The Samson to fifty will have a two lap shoot out for the nineteen ninety eight NASCAR craftsman truck series championship. Jack Sprague second Ron haunted is in fourth with Gregg biffing looking for his first ever win leading the field to the green flag. Should biff. A win. He will be the series thirteenth different winner in thirteen weeks. It's going to be a good one agreed flag a white flag. Then a checkered flag we're back under the green green flag is in the air. Ron horrid gets a good break away from Jimmy Hensley that'll help in his fight to hang onto a spa. Meantime, it is spray all over the back bumper of Bip into one that come charging tournament. One both trucks. Go down to the bottom of the racetrack. Right on the white line. Now Sprague flares out to the outside. Pinks chased go by Greg Pepple. Down drop to the inside at gets back in line coming down the backstretch getting up to speed. It's still Greg Bittel showing the way Sprague again turns in earlier into turn three maintains the second spot for today now in third Joe Rutland in Ford or today made the move around. Joe Rutland on the back straightaway. Could a bit his championship here. They come to the white flags spray foam may contact as they come to the stripe Sprague sideways. He Gavin's it back up. Here's today. Going by piffle for second on the titles. Break has the lead today goes by he grabs the second spot. Here's Joe rugby gets into Greg Bethel revenue turn sideways at the racetrack. Everybody goes wide did a Setzer. It's hard. He grabs the outside retaining ball. The rest of the field scrambles. The inside caution is on the speedway with one lap to go. That was the white flag. They were racing. For. But as feel comes off turn up her four the race will end with Jack Sprague winning and rod horn a second. Jack Sprague is the race winner. Rod horrid is the nineteen ninety eight NASCAR craftsman truck series champion in an amazing change of events on the final lap. Let's go to pit rose. Here's of joy a lot of motion down here high fives, hugs Fred shit. Did it your that shale? Unbelievable. Ron just did it when he had to we told him Jack up by biff he had to go with them. And he pulled it off. Unbelievable and unbelievable finish hugs. All around other teams coming over to congratulate run Hornets is a nineteen ninety eight champion in unbelievable finish had loss fates on believable to lab green white checker. Shootout to the finish. Jack Sprague Ron hor today ending up in the one and two positions after Sprague and Greg biff got together racing for the lead where they came to the white flag spray gathered it back up for today used this the momentary hesitation to get the the run by Greg biff and take over the second spot. And now what's going on here down on the trial will grass Sprague and hor today pulling their trucks together shaking hands in the middle of the trial will between pit road and the straightaway. And now doing dual victory donuts. Let's go to pit road Jim Phillips and Dennis Conner. Get a word Dennis, right? Here's he walks along the pit lane. Dennis gave it everything. You had buddy. Hey, you guys we happen to win this race? I guess we need to go to Victor circle for we worry about that pet stuff. Yeah. The guys on this team. I'm extremely proud of these guys everybody back. Hendrick motorsports helps this one think Rick and John Hendrick for all the support. They give us respect. Thank all of our sponsors team. GMAC GMAC financial services G M protection plan AC Delco rotary lift and Haas machines. Jack done a heck of a job. We came out here with. A plan to set on the pole when the reysen whatever happened after that. That's all we could do. Fortunately, we pulled off our plan but horn today pulled off their plan. I'd like to congratulate them like gradulate the whole crew it's been a kind of a real strange season in that every time one of us will get a comfortable lead over the other one something off the wall would happen to us like the deal happen to us Phoenix last week, you take that out of the equation. We win the championship. But it was a heck of a fight all year long. And it's going to be a fight next year. And. I told the Gaza meeting before the race today. No matter what happened today, we wouldn't be in this situation next year because we'll have at tied up before we get the pond Tanna, California with these tough trucks. That's Dennis Qatar's. He hits the victory lane. Jack spray goes to victory lane while Ron Hornets is the nineteen ninety eight NASCAR craftsman truck series champion by three points. The thoughts of to those gentlemen in a moment when we come back to Las Vegas. Jack Sprague has won the SAM's town. Two fifty Ron haunted has won the nineteen ninety eight NASCAR craftsman truck series championship. And Greg biff list, the cintos rookie of the year thoughts from those drivers and the rest of the top ten in the moment. I from the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. This is the NASCAR truck network Ness par today continues on the NASCAR truck network. Awesome. Nineteen ninety eight NASCAR craftsman truck series season has just come to a traumatic. Awesome conclusion with the final two laps of the Sam sound to fifteen Jack's break took the checkered flag. Rod horrid has taken title. Let's get his thoughts in Vic the actually on the pit lane with Tony Zuhdi Ron hornet as climbed out of the truck. He gets the whole cooler water split on him, man. Ron one finished. I don't think script writer could write a better finish. And you come across the nineteen ninety eight champion. Hats off Redgrave's this whole Naveh break Chevrolet team is unbelievable. I just wanted to call water on the truck handle good. I didn't work up sweat, and it just made me cold. So unbelievable. Fred gotta thank him bottom of my heart. The Lord I'll tell you what. Everything happens for reason at all through the Lord. And Dale Theresa all the guys back in the shop. Awesome. I'll tell you what you guys are number one of my heart. They build a ninety nine Chevrolet. We got that son of a gun. Jimmy, thanks, buddy. Anytime. Thank you. And I'll tell you. They've already got a brand new truck. Mill ready just thinking Jimmy Hensley came up Jimmy helped Ron kind of get around those people three fourths of the way through the race. You had the whole field Jack in front of you. Everything looked really good all the sudden cautioned then at the end, we get the green white checkered finish what was going through your mind when the caucus started flying at the end of the bad part. We got. The lap traffic before that seventeen ago, they had that and I got hung out. I thought Houston was on the same lap. And I'll get myself, I drove harder and harder backwards. And they told me down I started food out and caught the guy. So. Tell you what this is. In that. Right. And we did what we had to do. Got round him. But I tell you what a heck of a try. If you need moved up on the Pitney truck that you came down on him, they wiggled and just enough momentum to get this Napa Chevrolet up front and finish second. I don't know if I got him, but outta tried your the series first two time winner, how does this? When compared to the one back in ninety five. This is the most no saying I've ever done. I was the Theresa. We're here in the rest of the crew. But I'll tell you what be one heck of a party. And it'll be on myself. I tell you what Theresa can't thank enough given us opportunity. Big smiles on runs faces wife Lindy and his daughter Candace giving him a hug Ron Hornets your nineteen ninety eight NASCAR craftsman truck series champion couple years back to in a NASCAR Busch series race in hickory North Carolina where Bobby the body won the race. But lost the championship a few points to Joe Nemechek, and it was the most disappointed victory lane interview. I've ever heard I suspect we're in for one of a similar sort here. Is we go to Jim Phillips to hear from today's race winter, Jack Sprague, that's exactly. I was sitting here thinking about that look on Bobby the Bonnie's face same lick on Jack Spriggs face it came down to a caution. And it came down to a couple of laps. You went forward. You did what you had to do. But tell us what happened between you Greg biff. Oh, well, you know, I knew ahead to win the race. And I didn't touch my past and cleanest could be when I got to me just slam hell out of me and young man's got a lot to learn, you know, he doesn't have many friends at and he's not making any more. And you know, he slam me. And then once I got by him. He let on a day goes. So, you know, it's one of them deals. I mean, I can't control any of that team. GMAC Chevrolet great all day. The guys doing a great job all year. You know? Sorry, rick. You know, we tried buddy. Just came a little short what it had to get him next year. But I like think on my father's GMAC AC production plan Chevrolet, rotary lift Quaker state and half machinery. And just you know, it's probably good to be disappointed with five wins. And second point with the lose it that way, you know. That's not very sportsmanlike Honda. Bills part. I mean holiday did nothing wrong. I mean took advantage of the same situation. But you know, I didn't expect anybody to move for me. And that's just the way goes tell us about your truck before the caution came out to you look like you'd gain on him. You've got right behind him. Just couldn't make the pass. Or were you waiting to make your move? Well, you know, the funny part is I could have knocked him out anytime to win the race and try to win the championship. But I did not pass them clean. And he slammed me. So like I said he's the youngster got a lot to learn Jack's break he wins the race. But he loses the championship. Tough wreck. Their for Jack Sprague who was going for his second superspeedway win of the year. And he got that. But lost the championship. By some new version, the final apps save Tony Zuhdi has caught up to Greg Bill. Well, Mike, we're in hot pursuit right now hope to get him here in just one moment. All right, so resilient is legged it out trying to get up with Gregg Bill who is the cintos? Rookie of the year. Also hear from Jimmy Hensley who finished third today and Jay solder who had. A great run ends up in the fourth spot as the SAM's down to fifty is over here in Las Vegas back in the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. We'll hear from the SaaS rookie of the year and the rest of the top five. Also give you the finishing order of today's SAM's town to fifteen from the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. This is the NASCAR truck network back in the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. Ron horn. Today is wife Lindy daughter Candace and grandbaby Lacey had been loaded up in Chevrolet Camaro right now coming down the front straightaway. With a checkered flag in their hands. As Ron today is now nineteen ninety eight NASCAR craftsman truck series champion tear from the cintos rookie of the year. Greg biff he's with our Jim Phillips. Greg. Biff was explained to me about those last apps. Great, congratulations. I on the winning the nineteen ninety eight rookie of the year in the craftsman truck series. But tell us about those last few laps you had the lead. Jack Sprague was on your buffer. Well, you know, I mean, we were Dyson out there those last labs and and spring we had a better truck, and he did and he was trying to get the air off me and trying to get air off me for them last laughs up until that caution. And I got down on the corner and left this a little bit on the table just wanted to be hair conservative and and pick the throttle up off, and he got his nose underneath me. And he had a clean pass on become an off the corner there, but he just didn't want to run down along the bottom of the race track down there like we did for hundred sixty five labs he wanted to run me out kind of in the fuzzy a little bit and maybe get some build up on the tires down into one. I couldn't stay on outside of him. You know, I mean, it's just recent. I mean, it's the white flag lap. Anything goes. You know, if he says, I intentionally got into that says, you know, we we we won't do that. After that. What? Happened after that, then then you know, tore up the left front probably nocco out a little bit. And I just got you know, I mean, you lose so much speed on a mile and a half. I just got back up to speed, and you know, two or three guys got by me. And I went down to the corner down there. And somebody got I think it was Joel teammate got sideways underneath me. Whether he got hit in the back or what happened, but he got sideways, and I didn't even see him. And I felt somebody hitting on me like that. And then and then I just picked the throttle up and drove off, and I didn't know what was going on. It was kind of behind me. You know, it wasn't beside me or in front of me that was behind me what happened down there again. Congratulations on being the rookie of the year. Thank you regular full nineteen ninety eight craftsman truck series rookie of the year led the race until the white flag will come up with a fifth place finish today. But we'll win cintas rookie of the year championship this season. Go back to Tony resute down in the garage area. Trying to catch up with either J solder Jimmy Hensley tell you when a championship party breaks out it breaks out, but one. Hundred and fifty two hundred people down here on pit road is kind of tough to tell who's who. But we'll try to track down one of them. So we'll get update their shortly. Check back in with you as we are in pursuit of third place should be Hensley four-place Jay solder. And while we wait. Let's take a look at the finishing order right now. Jack Sprague the race winner. But Ron hor today finish his second and wins the championship by three points here this afternoon. Jimmy Hensley will come up third Jay solder fourth and Greg biff oh fifth. Mike Lynch finishes six Joe Ruttman seventh last on the lead lap. Mike van. It comes home the first one a lap down eighth place in that last scrambled. The checkered flag. He made some excellent moves to come up with a good top ten finish in his truck series debut. Got Ron Barfield running night this afternoon. Butch Miller tenth eleventh is Andy Houston. Mike Wallace was twelve. Dennis sets are thirteen. Three Crawford fourteen. Doug, George fifteenth sixteenth was Lance norc Stacy Compton was seventeenth Lani. Rush. Eighteenth be Wilson nineteenth. And twentieth today was Kevin Harvick twenty-first is. Kevin so Inskeep. Twenty-second Tony Raines twenty-third Scot Walters. Tom Hubert was. Fourth and Randy Tolsma twenty fifth. Twenty sixth is Rick Beebe Nipper also twenty-seventh boy said was twenty eighth Rick McCray. Twenty ninth and thirtieth Chuck bound semi potassium was thirty first. Brennan gone thirty second Blake Bainbridge was thirty third Terry Cooke was thirty fourth Rick really thirty fifth Tammy Jo Kirk was thirty six Brian Refner thirty seven th Tony Roper thirty eighth thirty ninth. With Scott Hanson fortieth is Randy Renfro time of the race. One hour fifty seven minutes. Even had five caution flags that throw slow the event throughout its course. Fourteen lead changes among eight different drivers. The final of them has came to the white flag when Jack Sprague gut by Greg Bill and went on to win the race. We heard from Sprague and hor today the top two in the event and in the championship this year, we heard from Greg VIP fifth-place finisher still looking to get a word with third and fourth place drivers. Let's go back downstairs Jimmy Hensley here. Jimmy. You've been in the wild ones before. But this is other wild finish. It was GM probably pretty ugly. Third us go. We strong out. We had bad arrow problems today, we got around trucks, and you know, we just hung on all day pretty much had to run con I clean air in our day. And you know, we'd run the left tires whole race in Fred side. Put less tires last truck overly lap. And boy rid of Alabama was hooked up semi lamp writes in them, you know, he was right there with Jack role on his right day comes dodge. You know, we we turned it around here by June and wound up moving back up six points in you know, I'm glad get a little break right now. But I hate to quit 'cause we kind of been on role in in hopefully, the carry over ninety nine was that cautioned the big break for you though. It was we had I, you know, just out of Lawrence. We could lot guys stopped on the green. I don't know. Why was running probably twelve thirteen fourteen somewhere? We just kept saying staying staying in. In in some of the guys on the grain without it in it out to college in in, you know, get back on laugh in is is finished falls. Another great run for Jimmy Hensley. Jimmy Hensley an extra having a good season for the most part after making some changes at Bristol in June. They stacked up many top ten finish, including this one. Here this afternoon. Of course, they picked up the win earlier in the year at Nashville speedway USA when they won the federated auto parts to fifty in. Tony rudy. Well, we have found Jay solder. He was. In his holler changing. Fact, he comes out finishing up. Jay fourth-place finish. That's pretty good way to end the season. I tell you what it says a lot for this good wrench team. They did an awesome job all year top five or what we needed finished fourth in points. We'll take it on that last restart. It looked like you might be the spoiler in this whole championship hunt. Look like, you may even ahead a shot for the lead. But didn't quite happen that way. No, you know, who's gonna get mixed up. There. The way they were running in. We just held our line and got what we could get that say solder driver of the. GM? Good wrench Chevrolet. He comes across four here today. So we've heard from the top five we've heard from the new champion. And now it's time to wrap up this nineteen ninety eight NASCAR craftsman truck series season gets it to leave you from here in Las Vegas Senator earlier in the program, but I'll say it again, the most competitive hard-nosed exciting side by side racing that you could find in the calendar year. Nineteen ninety eight has been here in this truck series of sure you've read some of the headlines over the last couple of weeks and things NASCAR is doing to try and eliminate the conflicts between scheduling of this series, and some of the other major NASCAR divisions and get more folks in fraternity to take in some of this racing. I it's worth making a habit out of it's just fun competition. In almost reminds me of the NASCAR Winston Cup days back in the early seventies late seventies early eighties. These drivers get out there and they race for the scheduled distance. They get there. They're beaten and banging for twenty and twenty fifth spots. And today, we saw our share of that going some one hundred eighty miles an hour, and you just never know what's going to happen in one of these events led to. Tip the cap to Mike cliffs, he was the Gatorade front runner award winner. Two thousand dollars goes in his pocket from Gatorade the official sports beverage of NASCAR by leading lab. Eighty four the halfway point of today's SAM's town two fifty like to thank folks that have helped us throughout the year. First of all the track management that we go to from track to track their help in getting us set up and getting us places where we need to be to do our job also like to thank all the security officers and the law enforcement officers that we encounter at each individual track throughout the year. Their help is invaluable. I mean, they they to help us get us where we need to go and the production assistance that of assisted us over the year, particularly Nick, and friend Bobo from Nashville, Tennessee, they show up at a lot of events. They help us lug the boxes pack up the equipment help. Our turn announcers pit reporters by running against even up here in the tower. They've been an asset to us like the thanks of the engineers that have joined us on the crew this year, Harry Howard and Joe Cooley. They have taken time to come over. And join us Cameron Smith all. Bunch of folks behind the scenes that you don't get to here, and mainly you don't get to meet a lot of times. Great great folks who help us every weekend. Like, the the drivers crews on the PR people who have freed up their time. So we can get the stories that we need to give them to you. And last and finally any mail ru have transported our equipment across the country week after week after week making many long journey. They get us there in time setup. So when we come into our jobs, everything is set to go a tip of the capital all of these people like to the voices you on the broadcast today. Joe Moore was in turns one and two Dan Hubbard interns, three and four Tony resilient Jim Phillips from the pigeon garage areas and for Allan Beswick. I Mike Bagley bidding you farewell from Las Vegas, Nevada. Congratulating Jack Sprague winner of the SAM's town two fifty and Ron haunted. The nineteen ninety eight NASCAR craftsman truck series champion until we talk next from the homestead motor sports complex on March the twentieth. Nineteen ninety nine when we opened up the new season have a safe in holiday. Season so long everyone from Las Vegas. Nascar truck network coverage of the NASCAR craftsman truck series has come to you from the Las Vegas Motor Speedway in Las Vegas, Nevada. And sponsored by Ray Vestis, the best breaks and the official breaks of NASCAR by craftsmen tools. 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I am telling you you're not going to be real honest with you. I may be white on the outside. But on the inside i did see black panther times very much identified with it great but you already white person yes similarity to that. I do not okay. You know i hear you. I get it now. I get it now looking to see if this was effective they needed to try it out in the real world. I've decided to put david's methods to the test and there's no better place to find conflicting family views. The new jersey the francisco family had history of dinners gone bad so they were more than willing to let any random stranger with cameras. Come into their home if it meant their holidays could be more pleasant your sweater just your standard traditional christmas sweater. It's yeah it's just the santa sweater pop up. Would you wear a sweater. Lake disease if i would have. You're wearing your black santos. Or i would wear my black jesus wetter. Jesus is jesus isn't black or white. He's actually only stern. 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8 Trivia Questions on Time Travel Movies

Trivia With Budds

12:08 min | 2 years ago

8 Trivia Questions on Time Travel Movies

"We're going back in time to answer questions on time travel movies before we were born not really, but you should still probably punch someone named biff today. This is trivia with buds. Be and welcome to another episode of the trivia with buds podcast. I'm your host. Ryan buds. Thanks for checking out this show. If you like pop culture trivia, you are in the right place. I do emphasize pop culture trivia because we don't do a ton of academic trivia on this show. So if you're really more of a bookworm, and you like math and science and the periodic table and things like that. We do slip it in from time to time, but more often than not it is movies music television video games stuff like that today's no different because we have time travel movies, and it should be a really fun time. Speaking of traveling, just regular traveling. I was in Grand Rapids Michigan over the weekend. Doing a big show for a company called J H oil three hundred and thirty people which I think is the most trivia, I've hosted for people wait that doesn't make sense. The most people I've hosted trivia four in one big group where everybody was actually playing. So that was pretty cool. We did at this big event center called the pinnacle center over there in hudsonville Michigan, and I landed and there was a delay in my bag was late and all that kind of stuff. So everything that could go wrong went wrong. But I still got to the gig about forty five minutes early. I would like to get there like two hours early, but it all worked out good. We did cahoots which is a fun buzzing smartphone version of trivia a lot of classrooms use it to study for tests, and it kind of engages kids to use their cellphones in educational way. So I bust out as a bonus round a lot of my trivia nights, sometimes in the LA area. But because there were so many people, and it would have taken forever to kinda score three hundred and thirty people's answer sheets. Even in teams of ten that's third three teams. I opted to go for coot so signed into that and had a think we did four rounds of fifteen questions each which still took a good amount of time. That was probably an hour by itself, and they seem to really enjoy that. I think we had. About two hundred and fifty players at one time. So there were some older people that worked at this company that obviously we're not going to bust out their cell phones. They're like, what is this, you know, but most of the crowd plates that was cool. Then I did a game where we did like eighties music. Bingo. So I gave every table of bingo Dabur and an eighties bingo card in played songs. And they marked off the songs as we played like twenty seconds of each song. And then they wanted to keep the bingo dabs, which was weird. But most of the tables keep the daggers. They're like, hey, we didn't win. Can we keep the Dabur? I'm like, hey, if that's a highlight of living in Michigan winning a free. Bingo, Dever, I am a happy to give that to you. And then we did a round where was naming movies through the alphabet, which I do quite a bit. But because there were so many people that are like thirty one person from each table, though, I think thirty three players for that. And I actually recorded video of that. A girl was nice enough to hold my ipad in the audience. So it's not the best. Quality video, but it's a fun one to watch and listen to if you wanna check it out Lincoln in the show notes to this episode, and you can find it over on the trivia with buds Facebook page, and they went for quite a bit. I think we went through the that maybe three times. So check that out J H oil. They were a ton of fun. And thank you everybody at J H oil. If you're listening to the podcast, which I plugged quite a bit throughout the show while I was in Grand Rapids. I didn't have a ton of time to do anything else. But it was fun being in the cold for a short period of time. And quite a bit of snow. I almost missed my flight on the way home they cancelled flights and then southwest was not cancelled. So I was like is that a good thing or a bad thing where they're like, no, south west can take it. Everybody else's is going to be on the ground. But getting the plane that is ready for a risk. You know? So that was interesting, but the way home there were empty seats to Chicago for connecting flight and then from Chicago back to on -tario, California. So that was cool to stretch out. And do some puzzles been doing these puzzles nonstop? These fill in the word puzzles. So it's like a crossword puzzle, but they give you all the words used to find on the grid by process of elimination. Where all the words go, it's pretty nerdy. But hey, if you listen to this show, you're probably pretty nerdy too. Right. Aided place called Logan's roadhouse. And I specifically went to that place 'cause roadhouse was in the title there were no bar fights. But I did eat a nice little fully. And that was my treat for myself for the week. And lastly about that trip. I stayed in a Airbnb that was called nana's bedrooms number three, and it could not have been more like a nana's bedroom. It was very very grandma e and nanna who was named Carol and her husband were super super nice. And there was another couple of staying in the next room over, but it was really like staying in your grandma's house. Which is what I put in the review. So if you're ever in the hudsonville Michigan area and need a place to stay on Airbnb, look up nana's, bedrooms, one two and three because it was a delight this episode today all about time travel movies, and it was picked by Dan Cappello, who's an Australian listener who looks like a younger Shane McMahon from WWE. If you want to check him out find Dan propel on Facebook. And you'll agree with me. If you watch wrestling if you want more time travel type questions check. Out September thirteenth two thousand sixteen episode of the show called back to the future versus US presidents trivia with my pales comedians, Sam Cortez, and Brad more. They battle in ten questions on those topics so twenty questions total ten on back to the future ten on US presidents, and it's linked in the show notes as well for easy finding let's jump into these eight new questions on time travel movies right now. Here we go. All right. Eight questions on time travel movies. Here's number one after Bruce Willis and Joseph Gordon Levitt who played the female lead in the film Looper number one after Bruce Willis Joseph, Gordon, Levitt who played the female lead in the film Looper. Question. Number two. What city is the train ride setting for the film source code number two. What city is the train Ryan setting for the film source code. Question. Number three Bill Murray. Relives the same day over and over again in groundhog day in what month is groundhog day. Celebrated number three in what month is groundhog day. Celebrated. Question number four and back to the future to biff has a grandson in the future. What is the grandson's name number four and back to the future to biff has a grandson in the future. What is the grandson's name? Question. Number five, what key item allows Evan trae born to travel back in time in the film, the butterfly effect. Number five, what key item allows Evan trae born to travel back in time in the butterfly effect. Question. Number six, what time travel comedy features a Russian energy drink called chur nobly number six what time travel comedy features eight Russian energy, drink called nobly. Question. Number seven the lake house start what do out who played counterparts in nineteen ninety four film as well. Number seven the lake house start. What do oh who played counterparts in a hit nineteen Ninety-four film as well. And question number eight what comedian plays Rufus in Bill and Ted's excellent adventure? Number eight what comedian plays Rufus in Bill and Ted's excellent adventure? Those are your eight questions. We'll be right back with your answers injustice. Second. Here we go with the answers to time travel movies, Dan, great pick in this topic. I always love good time travel movie. And now I wanna watch most of these again question number one after Bruce Willis and Joseph Gordon Levitt who played the female lead in Looper that was Emily blunt, Emily blunt. I would not have been able to pull that. I don't even really remember a main or co-starring female in that movie. I just remember those two. So if you're able to pull that question off good job, you must be a big Looper fan. Number two. What city is the train ride setting for the film source code. That is sweet home Chicago, Jake, Jalen hall in his second time travel related movie. The first one of which is Donnie Darko. We do not do a question on Donnie Darko on this episode. But Chicago is the source for source code number three Bill Murray relieves the same day over and over again in groundhog day, and what month is groundhog day celebrated. It is February this month. If you're listening to the episode when it came out February. And I think that is February second if I'm not mistaken. Number four and back to the future to biff has a grandson in the future. What is the grandson's name Griff Griff like Griffin, I guess or Griffin door Griff? And biff I would like to think that all his kids if he has more than one are named with a rhyming name like biff and Griffin live and tiff that'd be great number five. What key item allows Evan trae born to travel back in time in the film, the butterfly effect. That is his journal. You can read the journal and focus on it. And then he goes back to those moments, which does not work with my live journal guys, which is still running. I've read those entries over and over again. And I can't go back to the puberty times. I don't know how hard I try it doesn't work out. Number six, what time travel comedy features a Russian energy drink called Chernobyl that is hot tub time machine or nobly loved hot tub time machine hot tub time machine to not so good. I think I turned it off. But the first one lots of fun number seven the lake house start. What do oh who played counterparts in? Hit nineteen ninety four film as well. The night before film with speed in the lake house starred Keanu Reeves and Sandra block number seven and number eight what comedian plays Rufus and Bill and Ted's excellent adventure. One of my favorite of all time, George Carlin, George Carlin plays Rufus who introduces them to the idea of time travel in the phone booth that was it Griff. How about that answer? Griff? I bet they shit when they were like, what are we name? Biff grandson Griff done time for lunch. Let's do it this episode maybe want to go back and watch Looper and butterfly effect again, but not lake house because I've never seen it, and they did shoot that though in willow springs, Illinois, not far from where I grew up. And I remember in college, I think maybe freshman year of college a community college Moraine valley community college. I remember driving to find the fake lake house that they built on the lake. It was like bright -til greenish color, and it was up there for a while probably have an old picture of it somewhere like a printed picture and. Yeah, it was weird to be like, oh, man. They're filming that movie there, and then never watching the movie, but if you've seen the lake house, and it's any good, let me know. Maybe I'll go back and watch it. Remember, if you want more time travel questions, click the link for episode seven from way back in two thousand sixteen that's in the show notes and get ready for more great patriotic topics in months to come like, X files and rice novels Ron Swanson and the seven wonders of the world by listeners of the best and the keep the show rolling right along with their great ideas for trivia, topics. Thank you so much for listening. Thanks for telling a friend about this show. And we'll see you tomorrow for more trivia with buds. Cheers.

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Ep20-Katie Bethell-PaidLeave-Parenting and Politics-FINAL - 9319 7.42 AM

Parenting and Politics

49:06 min | 2 years ago

Ep20-Katie Bethell-PaidLeave-Parenting and Politics-FINAL - 9319 7.42 AM

"Welcome to parenting politics. Podcastone parents who went to make a difference where we look parenting through a political ends. I'm Diana Elementary One. In four women. Go back to work less than two weeks after giving birth because the vast majority of Americans eighty six percent have no paid leave today particularly thrilled to discuss paid. Leave on this episode. Because it's the issue that trust me into the activists world's when I was pregnant with my first child I discovered that I had not leave and that the US was one of the few nations in the world and the only nation in the industrialized world. That doesn't give its workers. They leave after my mind was blown. I started doing research in the more I found out angry. I became in the more motivated. I became to help change happen so with all that being said today. I'm thrilled to welcome. Katie Bethel these director of pay leave. Us We're going to discuss the importance of leave and how we can make it a reality for all workers in the United States. Thank you so much. Katy for joining me today so I always started the podcast. The question when I say parenting politics. What COMES TO MIND? Ooh When I think of parenting in politics I think about how becoming a parent is oftentimes a new sort of political awakening for people in America. Because I mean I'll speak from my own experience when I became apparent nine years ago even though I was already quite politically active and had been doing work with a lot of organizations for a number of years before that I started to understand in a new way. How deeply connected my future? And my family's future was to the future and successive of community around me. So I think parenting and politics are sort of inextricably connected and becoming a parent as a real opportunity to sort of awaken to a new kind of political life. I love that yes. They're linked and I feel like we don't talk about them often together. Which is why I created the podcast. Yeah we have to. I mean it'd be people always think about it in the context of like schools right like public schools. Obviously so important but it's so much more than that. It's everything that you do you view in a different way as a parent. So you created pay leave. Us family one of the issues. That really animates me. I mean it's not just like it's bad for the economy and it's bad for our health and it's bad for like all the things that we don't have paid family leave and I think it's just profoundly disrespectful to women and two parents that we don't as a society invest in this most important time in a child's life or in taking care of our elders and allowing our elders to be cared for by biff family members that they raise themselves like the paid care. Work is obviously critically important. And it's an big piece of the equation and that family care. There's just no substitute for it and so family. We've really lights me up as a really transformational policy that can change people's lives in such tangible way and also is an important statement of values that I want our government to make about what matters in America and to me what matters in America most is our families there. Yes unlike nodding I like. I mean because it's so infuriating to me you know when people that oppose it kind of make their arguments. I'm like there's no argument to remain. How are we a family friendly country when the building block of society is family? And we're basically like go back to work your body's not healed but we don't give a crap good luck with that. Yeah it's it's mind blowing so one of the most shocking things to me is in many states pay. Leave is still seen as a perk right. So when I didn't have leave I asked around and I found that a lot of the jobs that had it were like wait. Collar jobs rates so like my friends who worked at the big banks they had and they saw it as like this thing. That was like Oh. It's part of my benefits part of like apartment that I have this and it was furious to me because of my mind. I'm like yeah but you make like probably a lot of money so therefore it shouldn't be that way because I feel like the lowest tier workers who are living paycheck to paycheck. Who Need it? The most don't have it so consults a little bit about low wage workers and what the paid leave landscape looks like for them. Yeah absolutely so just to give your listeners context so plus is a multi year campaign to win. Federal paid leave policy. We have three main parts of that strategy. One of them is transforming the private sector and as a part of that work. We want annual report on the sixty largest employers in the country looking at. What is their family leave policy and we last year turned into a scorecard. Saying WHO's the best? Who has the best policy? Who has the worst policy in those like largest private employers? We've learned a lot from that work. I think your point about paid leave viewed through the lens of like this is a benefit and a perk like this one of the main things that we needed to trend that we need to transform in that private sector work because when you think about paid leave as a perk instead of as a fundamental need for all families you end up making some really screwy decisions when we first started doing this report on the largest employers. They're doing things like leaving out dads. They're doing things lake. Not including lowest wage workers. Exactly as you're talking about leaving out part time employees giving the best kind of benefits to the people who make the most money because if you think about it as a perk then you put it to you then you apply a perk to the employees. That are sort of closest to the executive office. And that's so backwards so we had this really powerful moment. Two of our biggest winds have been working alongside employees of starbucks and Wal Mart starbucks Baristas Walmart Warehouse and checkout employees to say that they deserve just as much leave as the people in the corporate office and there is this moment where one of our Barista activists we gotta sit down meeting with the global human resources vice president of starbucks big powerful job and she brought her baby and sat down in the meeting across the table from him and at some point in the meaning babies. Kinda fussing whatever whatever. He asks her a question and she says. Are you really saying that? My baby deserves less time with me than your baby deserves with you and like that moment. I think just encapsulates why we can't think about family leave as a perk rate. We can't because it's not because what we're really talking about is what are the fundamental supports that we need to enable families and as a matter of public policy. How do we focus that support on the people who need it the most because they're in jobs that are more vulnerable and that starbucks example it's global? Vp of human resources. They know that every other country back they have to do this. They can't get away with not doing it with the jaw so mind blowing right because a lot of times. It's like Oh we offer all these things you know. Jobs are going to leave. I'm like no jobs are not going to leave because Walmart isn't gonNA leave. Starbucks isn't just going to close his shop because we are saying you have to give everyone these type of things that they inherently should need and have because they're human beings right so that always blows me away to. Oh Yeah I mean I. I've been on the business. Side pudding paid family leave policies into place when I worked at a at an internet company and at that company when we announced sixteen week paid leave policy in the US all the US. Employers are like wow this is great and like the people in France. Where like you celebrating that? Yes I know I know so yeah I mean this is an area where where the US public really can point to almost any other country in the world and say look like you have employees in a place besides the US. They're getting this kind of benefit. Don't our children? Don't our families deserve that too so right now there's no Federal Leagues Get the SLA? Which is the family medical. Leave Act only gives twelve weeks of unpaid time off and job protection. I guess right but it's over twenty years old. What are the biggest obstacles to passing a federal law? The only obstacle is having the political will so. I think that this is the moment for family leave. I started plus in part because I saw that. This moment was coming. We're starting to see the private sector. Adopting policies that we're more robust. We're starting to see the public demand family leave as the sign of good employer so people who are looking for jobs or starting to ask like thank you to like millennials. I'm an old millennial. But like thank you to millennials who have really said loudly and clearly we wanna have families and we went to work that places have paid family leave and then this issue is bipartisan. Lake. We're starting to see. Republicans actually put forward proposals of their own on this issue. Where Republicans have really been silent at the federal level for the last twenty years so those things together. I mean like that. This is the moment when we can actually amass the political will to move something forward and I think when you think about like political. Well it's such an abstract concept rate. Will what is? What does that mean? It literally means that our legislators understand that there are political benefits to supporting paid leave so people will like me and vote for me if I support paid. Family leave and their political costs to opposing. Were failing to act on paid family leave and this is something that I think a lot of us. Forget about because we wanna be nice but if somebody is opposing family leave. Do not be nice like so. We need to really grow the political consequences for opposition. And say if you are against paid family. Leave that I'm not going to vote for you and I'm going to work against getting you into office or you keeping your office because this is an issue. That really matters. Those kinds of political stakes are what? Tell legislators that it's time for them to act on an issue and the amount of action that we're seeing on family we've now is just growing everyday mean. I was just at the summer meeting for the Democratic National Committee. We stopped five of the presidential candidates in the hallway. And said tell us why family matters to you and every single one of them without any prep like knew exactly why paid family leave matters for matter to them and could give like a succinct thirty. Second like here's why this issue matters. That's such a strong sign. That means that they're thinking about this issue. They're ready to move forward and they understand that. It's something that voters want. So I wanNA talk about this later but since you briefly mentioned I'll ask now. There was a proposal by Rubio that said that they want parents to dip into their Social Security Fund Chief Fund desk and then recently I read. I got a press release about something called the cradle. Acts kind of the same thing would require working parents to take money of the social security retirement and delay retirement yet. So what do you think about this approach? Well I know from eight states and the District of Columbia that already have paid leave policies in place that the model that we need to use to support that national insurance program is an insurance model same as unemployment insurance or even like same associate security like you pay in a little bit and then the money is there when you need it the way. It's already working in all the states so lake. It's very clear what the right answer is. What I think about the Republican proposals is that they need to listen to their own voters. We did a poll in Louisiana last year where we asked a broad swath of voting population in Louisiana which includes a ladder Republicans. What do you think of a proposal to borrow from Your Future? Retirement and it was less popular with Republicans and Democrats so Republican voters do not like the idea of borrowing from social security. They really everybody as far as I can tell really wants to see that. Social Security is something that's for their retirement and are really counting on those dollars so the idea that there would be fewer dollars. There is silly. I also think that Lake if you do the math on it the people who already are not prepared for retirement generally are disproportionately women and people who've been in lower income jobs and lower wage jobs and those are the same folks who also need support in being parents and have a preponderance of caregiving responsibility. I mean just looking at at women. Broadly women do most of the caregiving in this country. So you're saying to someone who already bears a disproportionate amount of caregiving burden? And you also have to borrow from your own retirement in order to do this and it's just stacking another layer of disempowerment top of the disempower that already exists. So I think it's wrong. On Ev. From every single avenue that you could look at it from so you mentioned eight states in DC. So that's less than ten percent of the country. Yeah so it depends on what you mean by the country. If you look at the broad working population about fifteen percent of Americans have some kind of paid family leave. That means like even one day of leave that you can take as a new parent or care for serious to a loved one. So only fifteen percent. Eighty five percent of Americans don't have any guaranteed paid family. Leave and yeah if you look at it state by state. Then we've got those eight states that's exciting you know. Some of those are really are populous. States in those systems are getting into place. But we've got a long way to go. I mean we did the math on it. And if we only focus on state wins and private sector policies. It'll take another hundred and fifty years for everyone to get. He's going to say when our daughters are older or when our children are older but no and that's the pace and there've been some great state wins and those are really important but were never going to achieve paid family leave for everyone unless we win federal legislation and this is the moment like our goal to win national policy by two thousand twenty two. That's a real goal. That's not like the kind of aspirational goal. That you like sat in order to get people moving for reels were GonNa win by twenty twenty two if we can do all the things that we need to do and things we need to do. Our very clear we're going to win. Signed me up. Okay Yeah So. In my state. New York workers will have access by the time it's fully implemented now twelve weeks at sixty six percent of pates cabinet and the state that is the latest to be added that got paid leave his Oregon and they passed the law that will pay one hundred percent and south for twelve weeks. So I feel like like I saw this coming where I would see the state's kind of wanting to be better. You know what I mean like each one is creating better proposals which I'm excited about. And twelve seems to be kind of the magic number that I feel like most states are going for but what experts say is that we needed six months of paid leave as minimum rate. So I remember when I had my first son. They recommended six months of exclusive breastfeeding. Which if your home with the baby would be a lot easier to do that. And if you have to go back to work and you know it's something that doctors and the World Health Organization say do you think we'll ever get to six months. Which is twenty four weeks at one hundred percent pay? Which is what recommended. Yeah I think we absolutely will get there. I don't know if that's what's GonNa Actually Pass in two thousand twenty two but our recommendation at plus is for a six month bill if you look at Oregon Washington I think also. Maybe I don't know if this was true. New York off the top of my head but all of those legislatures considered a proposal for six months and then the final bill that landed at twelve weeks or in some places a little longer. I support for recovering from childbirth. That was a place of compromise in that sort of legislative process. I you mentioned breastfeeding. So He's wanted to return to that. Because I was just listening to this interview. This is national national breastfeeding league black breastfeeding week. But it's August is like national breastfeeding month. Yeah Yeah Yeah So. I was listening to a doctor on the radio the other day and he was talking about like about black. Mothers are the low the lowest propensity to breastfeed and I got so pissed off because one of his arguments for why women should breastfeed is because it's an economical choice like basically like breastfeeding free. Like you don't have to buy formula and I was just like are you blind? Lake one in four women are back at work within two weeks of giving birth. The cost of breastfeeding is your paycheck. Not as not free so when we think about sort of how these layers of issues overlap and that we really need to bring our health care industry in behind the economic forces that are driving these negative health outcomes or driving the health choices that people are making very rationally like there. Aren't fewer women breastfeed Blackman breastfeeding because there's a lack of desire? It's because of a lot of complex reasons. But one of them is absolutely the economic forces in play and the lack of support for people actually taking the time off to focus on establishing breastfeeding in maintaining it. So when we think about that sort of back to your question about the recommendation. Will we ever get to six months? I think one of the key factors to getting there is to really look at the health outcomes that are driven by a paid leave policy including things like bonding and establishing breastfeeding and maternal. Health and maternal mortality. All of these things that are improved just giving people the time to recover. I envisioned this world where we have six months of paid leave and I imagine like the number of women who suffer from postpartum depression to create. Because there's a direct connection between postpartum depression and lack of paid leave. Yeah we also know. There's a direct connection between men using paid leave and long term health outcomes for mother and child and engagement by the dad where we have mom and dad structured family. So like there's so much there that where family leave really gets to the root of many of the kinds of problems that we're trying to solve for you. Recently released you funded a report with the Georgetown Centrum poverty inequality. Do you WanNa talk to us a little bit about. And we've mentioned a little bit about what the findings are. But do you want to elaborate hat? Georgetown centers so awesome that you such smart research. So I've been working on paid family leave for a long time since two thousand six and over that time every federal paid family leave proposal has been built on top of the unpaid leave. Fmla and the main way that policymakers have structured it. They've asked questions. Like what do we think is politically feasible? What would be the easiest to administer like a lot of like Wonky wonky problems that I think aren't putting the right thing in the center of the problem solving they like? What is the first thing that you can kind of pass and be done with it and say we did something but not really diving into the problem? That's it sounds. Yeah I mean like these are great wonderful people who want to help people but like the Lens for how do I help people is? What kind of law can I pass? So which is an important piece. But it's not the central piece to me. The central piece to me is where they're all these problems that we want to solve with paid family. Leave what kind of policy would actually solve those problems like. What kind of policy helps women to establish breastfeeding? What kind of policy allows men to take the time off that they need to support their families or non birthing parents to bond with their babies? What kind of policy help someone actually have the time to recover cancer? And so we that we approach towards China and said. Can you look at this from this new way instead of the questions? We've been asking so far. We WanNa say what actually would help so they reviewed what's happening around the world. What's working around the world? What's working in the states have paid family leave? What are Doctor Recommendations for best practices with babies and people fighting serious illness and came up with a set of recommendations for policy in a nutshell? It's six months is the right number. Not just for babies like if you think about what it takes to recover from a major getting. Your knee replaced allowing up to six months of time. Make sure that everybody can actually recover the way that they need to. Some people will recover in six to eight weeks. That's great but what we need is to have a policy that can be applicable for even when things don't go perfectly in these sort of medical treatment so six months the people who make the least our lowest wage working people need a hundred percent wage replacement. That's sixty six percent of minimum. Wage is not enough to live on minimum. Wage isn't enough to live on so we really need to focus resources so that the people who need the most help get the most help then we also want to see that everyone means everyone. So in the unpaid. La There's a lot of carve-outs there are people who are left out the FMLA only applies to sixty percent of Americans right now so today. Forty percent of Americans can get fired because they're racing to the hospital to give birth to a baby. Actually we have one of our. Plus activists is a gentleman who was like in the truck on the way to his construction job and his wife called up and was like alright. Babies come in and he called his boss and said. I gotta go to the hospital and the bus that you come here or you're fired and that's legal. They can do that because he where he was part of the key from. Fmla so when we say everyone means everyone. We really want this to apply to every single employed person to and to every type of family and type of care so those are the big picture principles. And I'm really excited to be like. Were on the hill every day. Talking about those principles with legislators in the hopes that they will start to introduce policy proposals that reflects those. I know on your website. It says paid family leave must include parental caregiving. Medical leave it must also include all workers including those working the GIG economy find that last part to be so important because so many people. Maybe because of millennials. I'm not sure but Myself included that we worked for ourselves right. And I think there's a rise in entrepreneurship because people of all genders. We wish to work on our own. Trams we want flexibility to be with our families but when we do this we give up a lot of benefits like health insurance and access to it gets really important that you're getting for everyone like you said including those of us work in the GIG economy right. Yeah well on your entrepreneurship. Point is a really good one I think. In America we attached so many of the is social safety net policies and programs to an employer so healthcare's a great example where like employer tied. Healthcare is something that Tamp Down Entrepreneurship in America. Because if you're starting a business you're also becoming a healthcare provider so paid family leave. I think when we talk about paid family leave a lot of employers the first time they hear that they think about they assume that what we mean is that we're going to be demanding that employers do this on their own and that's not what we're proposing what we're proposing is building a federal insurance program that works very similarly to the way unemployment insurance works where instead of a small employer having to create their own family program and Sell Fund that program. We actually have a federal program that underwrites the cost to the small business in order to provide that to their employees so the system that we wanNA build doesn't just help individual families it also levels the playing field for small businesses and entrepreneurs who can't afford to offer the same kind of benefits that Google and facebook are offering to their white collar employees. Who still want to support families and seen in the states that have paid family leave that small businesses especially report that paid family leave policy has helped them to be competitive with in in there and playing offer employees offerings one of the things. I often think about when I think about paid leaves is that if we had paid leave in the United States federal program that there is be so many people that would rise to be entrepreneurs because I feel like if we had access to paid leave in. We had access to like a universal healthcare. There's so many people who don't become entrepreneurs who may have these amazing ideas but they don't because you know maybe they have a family. Member who needs has a medical condition. Maybe that doesn't allow them to create the next the next Google or whatever so I feel like even that sense it just makes so much sense you have it right. Yeah I mean the reason that I mean paid family leave really started as a policy in reconstruct postwar reconstruction in Europe. And the reason for that was that at the end of World War Two in Europe. A lot of men had died. And so- policymakers said. Whoa like we need women to be able to work because we don't have enough workers and we need them to be able to have babies because we need to rebuild our population for the future and so he'd family leave was an obvious thing because it supports people in having children and make sure that they remain attached to the workforce and remain engaged as employees in the long term. Both of those things are true and we see in the US. Our Workforce Participation Participation by women is about seventy five percent in European countries. It's eighty five percent and we can ascribe a lot of that difference simply to the lack of family leave policy. And how did we because American soldiers participated in world word? Tim How did we miss about that? How did we not jump on that right? Like children come back and then they told us. Oh no you can go back to being home. We were telling a different story here. I mean the post World War. Two policymakers in America were first off only thinking about white families and they were so that means that they were thinking about the white women who had entered the workforce during World War Two and so when all of the white men came back and because again. They're only thing about why people they said. Oh our boys are home so it's time for women to go back home. Prepare homes for our boys and leave the jobs to our boys who are coming home and they completely ignored the fact that women of Color in America have been working at home and outside the home for all the whole time and they completely missed the idea that we actually had this new and exciting workforce that had been developed during World War Two. That could be an engine to the economy because they were blind to it because they were living those values of that time that we're really ultimately wrong and also with legislators there was no diversity rates not like yeah exactly legislators to say hello page us no no it. Was You know that generation of white men who some of whom are still around? Who have a very specific perspective on the role of women in the economy? So I want to talk a little bit about the narrative that I hear sometimes when people oppose pay league. Which is you know people say. They don't want their tax dollars to pay for someone else's baby or they say that parents who are to take leave are on vacation and and I think that's one of the big problems we have is changing this narrative that says the babies are somehow only helping the parents that have them right. We forget that babies grow up to actually be doctors and teachers and nurses and that they literally are the future workers of tomorrow. So how do we changes narrative? I feel like it's changing a little bit. I still see push back. A lot of it is from feel older generation. Yeah in the years. I've been working on this. I guess this is thirteen years now. I it just cracks me up like on the message boards or comments to articles when people say stuff like that. Because it's just like at this stage. I just don't even respond. I'm like look if your perspective on life is the only thing that matters is the thing right in front of you and your people in your whatever then like you are not the kind of community minded person who's going to be building a stronger country with me so like I don't. I don't say that to me that I feel great empathy and desire to engage with a wide swath of Americans but like the idea that children are literally the future of our country and that they need their parents love and support and that having children that grow up with loving supporting parents who have time to invest in them. The idea that that is not somehow a deep benefit for society at large. If you can't wrap your head around that then like you need way more than I can ever give you and we need people to just get with the program here that kids matter families matter and we need a government that has policies that support that value. Let's just talk about why it's important to have a bill that supports working parents of all genders and also caregiving parents? Which we've talked about already but really let's talk about the gender piece. Yeah absolutely so I mean what I see is extremely important in any work that you do about family policy is that you have a really flexible construction for what family means because families complicated rate the idea when we say family is the backbone of our society when some people say that they're thinking about like to white people and their two and a half white children and their little dog rate. That's a very old construction. It's very patriarchal construction. Very racist construction. There are families like that. You know I'm a white person with my husband and my white daughter and my two cats right like this is like. It's not not to say that that's not a kind family that that exists. It is but it's not the only kind of family what's really important is that we have construction of family and the people in family that builds public policy that will support the family as an institution so that we can have that stability that children need and I have seen so many wonderful families that are led by people of all genders so not just male female but everything in between and the most important thing in family is that love and commitment to each other and the care that we provide so we have to build public policy. That isn't limited by short-sighted old gendered or racist idea about what family looks like and instead focus on how do we support this institution so that people can provide care to the people they love. So what can parents do to push forward and in the states especially in the states? Don't have leave so workplaces are really exciting. Place of Activism. We have worked with employees in a number of ways to help them get their company's policy to be better. We do the kind of activism that I talked about earlier with the low wage earners at Walmart and starbucks and we've done that with many other companies but we also do behind the scenes work so at lift for example. We worked behind the scenes with somebody in their corporate office on helping them to improve their policy and continue that conversation to figure out what to do about the GIG workers who are not employees of lift absolutely need that support and by doing that work behind the scenes we were able to really open up a dialogue for problem solving that continues to this day so for parents out there for anybody out there who cares about family leave and also care for your own serious illness like almost everybody has a serious illness at some point half of the people who use unpaid family leave or using it for their own medical condition. So like that's a really important part of this advocacy is to start at home to start with your workplace and see what you can do to get the policy better at your workplace and also can if you're an employer yourself how can you become a champion for public policy to get in on building the political stakes on paid family. Leave at every single level of government your representatives and the candidates to become your representatives need to hear about paid family leave so if you're donating to campaigns put paid family leave and the memo line of check your sending. Put it in the comment line on the web page. Where you're donating that something. That campaign teams really understand and pay attention to ask questions from the floor when you go to candidate events and then with your legislators. It's we have a campaign right now where we have people all over the country just dropping by their legislators. Home Office with a Flyer about paid family leave looks like talking to the legislative aid and then our team in D. C. is following up directly with the office of those same. Legislators and saying are people just dropped off materials at your local office. Have you seen them? Have you talked to them? What is your report out? What are your next steps? So that is a really easy way for folks to get involved and people can find information about all of that at our website paid leave dot. Us Okay so let's talk about activism. You have a nine year old daughter. Yeah what activities if any and conversations do you have with her on kind of being a little activist? Yeah Yeah I mean. She thinks paid family. Leave is the most important issue and so anytime. We're talking about candidates for office. She's like are they good about like she really wants to know. I think she got her start as an activist in twenty sixteen when we were watching Clinton's acceptance speech for the Democratic nomination and she wrote a letter and her little how old in two thousand sixteen she was six. She was just barely six. She wrote a letter. Dear Hillary. I like your speech level as a Beth and my husband tweeted it out. And then guess who re tweeted it. You're never gonNA GUESS IT WAS OPRAH. My daughter's letter and then from that moment on she was hooked. You know she was like wow like and then you know when Elizabeth Warren One and my daughter's name is Elizabeth so like she's always rooting for the Elizabeth's that's right so I understand. Yeah exactly and then as a family we went to Washington. Dc TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FIRST WOMEN'S MARCH. We've participated in our hometown in the families. Belong together actions so we're really out there sort of boots on the ground and I feel like with kids. That's like really accessible. It's funny because in San Francisco. We have a big. I mean in many major cities in San Francisco. We have a big homeless problem. There just aren't enough supports for this vulnerable population and that is something that my daughter sees every day. I mean the first time when she was about four we were walking on the street and she really saw and recognized a person sleeping on the street for the first time and was like. Why is that person sleeping on the street and I said well because they don't they don't have a bed. They don't have a place to go and she was like they don't have a house. What do we do and like? It was an emergency that there was a person on the street. That didn't have a house and I going back to your opening question. You know parenting in politics. That's the way that I think. Being a parent awakens you to our responsibility to act politically because those fresh is that your children have about the problems in front of you and your very own community can really sort of jolt you out of complacency on the things that are happening around you but at the same time then she did a school project about homelessness and I was like well. Why don't we go meet with the mayor and she was like? I think I'd rather give a speech. You know I was like Okay but interesting because if I had to pick between giving us beat what depending on I guess who? I'm giving the speech in front of just one person. I want to raise awareness. I'm like let's talk about theory of change like yeah. I love the perspective that kids bring and to them like I feel like it's very black and white right like yeah a person that doesn't have a house that's wrong that's a problem. How do we fix it and I feel like unfortunately as adult kind of become like you said like complacent and jaded like? Oh you know and we lose some of that but our children do help us. They remind us which is important. Yeah the other thing I wanted to say just specifically to that I think is a a role as a parent that maybe as a as a white person I feel very specifically and that I think like I get a lot of parenting tips from my parents and this is like in the thing that my parents didn't really think about right is like how do we help. White children navigate their race and race in America. And so that's something that I'm still figuring out but one of the things that I think is important as we think about this connection of politics and parenting is not papering over the history in this country. I mean we look at like like Columbus Day for example is a really easy opportunity to introduce your children to what has actually happened to native Americans in this country and at whose hand in a way. That's approachable to them. That really Helps them to start connecting the dots and like questioning the dominant narrative of our history while also understanding that the history of America's complicated. And there's a lot to be proud of alongside the problems that we have a responsibility to address and make right. Well said okay so I want to do something fun and light hearted before we end. We're just going to cook lightning round and just tell me the first thing that comes to your mind okay. Okay so what? Are you reading right now? I'm really into trashy lake. Women protagonist thrillers. Like ones where it's like. Oh like her is is her husband or murderer or a savior crap like that. I just loved the escape of that and it's been really great in the heaviness of all of what's happening in the country at to have that lake little escape bell of like all right but I'm just GonNa like follow this like privilege leading to the gym while she like tries to figure out if her husband's murderer. I absolutely know what you're talking about. What is your favorite city? Ooh I love cities. I'm a I'm definitely like an urban girl. I just moved to San. I moved to San Francisco so this is like my chosen city and I love it here if I think about cities to visit. I love Tokyo. I visited there when a family member was working there. And it's such a dynamic and interesting and exciting city that I would love to go back. It's just it's cool. I could talk forever about why it's cool but this is the lightning round. And what's your favorite beverage? Oh I like Kentucky Mule which is like a Moscow mule only use bourbon instead of vodka. And then it's like lime ginger beer and mint. It's officially the person that gave has given me like the fanciest comment that was very very fancy. We're looking at each other and I just made a face like I have no idea. What is it the drink but I love it okay. What's your favorite date Night Lulu too? Well I'm old and a mother so I have date days. Those are good too. I discovered those after my first son. We ask for lunch in the middle of the day so good so my favorite day is going out to this waster shack in Tomasz Bay where they make amazing barbecued oysters from oysters. That they literally like just pulled out of the bay. And then going on this beautiful hype and it's especially Nice going with Jin wild flower season like Golden Red Orange Flowers everywhere hike. That goes out to the beach and it's really nice to do that with your tummy. And is that a hike that like city people that don't hike as a knee do. Yeah Yeah it's like it's like a three mile out and back. Yeah really flat. And then what's your favorite way to practice self care who the way that I feel. The awesome myst- about afterward is swimming. I love swimming and in particular. I Love Surfing so like getting out on a Surf Board. And even if there aren't any waves just floating around in the ocean really fills me up and then but that is a lot of time and energy. It's like at that going so personal self care probably having Kentucky Mule even like you said what you said earlier reading something to escape. I feel like as a forum. Yeah totally so what can parents do? You like one thing that you wanna tell parents do this today or do this tomorrow. Like sign up for your newsletter. Well yeah so what parents could do. Today is good or our website. Download a flyer and drop it off at the office of any of your representatives your senator or your Congressperson. Those offices are often really easy to access. They are the people's offices and it takes fifteen minutes and it's really fun to do with kids to start to demystify who are leaders are and so the kids start to understand that these are people who make decisions who have certainly have power but lake report to you as the people countable to you yes yes yes. I raising my arms at that is something else that I want to bring with this podcast. These legislators they worked for US. We were their salaries. We have a nice to go visit them. And you know complain and demands and requests and just taking our kids so important because that builds consciousness them and they learn yes. Yeah I have the right I can go. This is something. That's not shining on a hill that I can access the it's the opposite and that's I think what we need to share with our families and our parents and our kittens. Yes let's see we're happy to okay. So and now the last question of all the cut cast is what keeps you hope fall right so at the end of the day like America is a grand experiment in democracy in. Can we can people come together and form a society that is just for all? I still believe in that and the thing. That keeps me hopeful. Is that every single day. I have the chance to work with directly and to observe from afar the people who are calling America to account to making that more and more true every day and so while when I look at the direction of the country right now in the short term I see a lot of steps backward in that fight to build a more and more adjust country but I think those are small steps that we in the long term are going to overcome because there are so many people around the country who are doing the work every day who are out door belling who are standing up with the people who are being attacked every day and who are really in the fight. You can't be in that fight if you don't believe that this is a country that can grow and be better and that's why I'm in it to you. I love that you know a lot of people say you shouldn't criticize your country but I feel like we want the country to grow and be better and if we don't call it out and work to change it and to make it better. It's not going to right. That's the key thing we gotta do the work and keep doing it. So thank you so much katy of. It's a pleasure. My one of my all my listeners. To check up paid leave dot. Us sign up for all the information print off the flyer. Bring it to your officials office and make sure to support their work all over the United States and thank you to everyone for listening to this episode and make sure you subscribe review. Recommend the podcast your friends and follow us all over social media until next time. Don't forget that hope is our superpower.

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Back to the Future: Part 2 - NERD ON! THREE YEAR ANNIVERSARY

Nerd On! The Podcast

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Back to the Future: Part 2 - NERD ON! THREE YEAR ANNIVERSARY

"His genetic coding is just talking about Denim I. There are so high waisted and they're so. NERD on. What is Thanks Tom. Show welcome to nine on the podcast need. But you deserve for all levels of NERD are welcome your. To say welcome overtime. Welcome back. All Butt heads and slackers. We are back and continuing our anniversary tradition with our third year of podcasting. ooh, we're we're covering back to the future trilogy. Today is back to the future part two. If you haven't heard the first part, pause this and back and listen to it before you continue, you've been warned they'll start things off. I am Corey. I am Tom. CAITLAND. I'm Ali and I am Josh in this episode is brought to you in part by the members of the nation that is powered by. Patriots intrigue as a member of the NERD on nation. You do get fun perks like you get early access to these episodes. You get discounts on Merch some of you get a early access to our merch. And you get access rematch anniversary merge. 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Rate it like I said, and so now the first segment of the show which is going to be. Jonathan. A. Team but. Now. Stop that stop that train. have. Something more than just told feel like. The extent When jaws theme anyway. So if you're brand spanking new to the show, welcome, get get seated up. Get you enjoy what you're doing whether you're driving or whatever it is. Or could join what? Else whatever Passenger is flexing? Yes. So we're GONNA go around the Digital Green Room. The screens watching to be should be but we're going to rate this films from zero at A. Five. No matter how. High. The number is because technically is. Typically as the you're the grunt for the week. So since I messed that up completely and. Normally, what I usually say it is I don't know why I'm going to have a corey open. No, no Josh. Go I'm taking note. Saying. We're stopped on a roll the day. Yeah. Yeah. I think that the GRUMP for this episode will be yes. Kaelin. Josh. Wo. Guess to it was my guest from the beginning, but I wanted to rapid fire back for some reason. Thought he was GonNa pick me. Wow okay. So these Tom early WHO's next. Oh go and I will say. CAITLIN. Okay. Don't me? Ellie. Tom. All right go fuck yourself to. Pretty sure we establish. I WANNA also Harken back on something he somethingyoushouldknow Stanley's favorite. Disrespect term is fuck you so really. You have nothing else to say. Oh. Yeah. I mean it's very chase. Someone says that back to you. That leaves me. I leave you. Trying to throw the comments everyone made when we were livestream. Beautiful, say you know what I want to say Tom But he said something that made me possibly. Other really offended by me picking him to this I'm going to say Tom as okay. That's okay. So. If you are actually of the nerd on nation then you get to be shouted out by Cory, which is going to explain that right now. During the nomination can take part in polls guessing that Grummin? If you get it right you gotta shout out on the episode. Such as this week where they guest, Josh would be of the episode who I do want to. So this is. So excited. Well, this is going to be a lot of fun. So it goes Ali and I go I because we don't have any votes and the rest of you hash it out because y'all got again. Yeah. Yeah Josh. Gave you gave you one and Joshing Tom Com has all the enemy and the Josh Hey Caitlin in. Alphabetical again swimming. A goal or full straws from a hat. Hat. So now we go to the complete spoiler of that, which is going to be our first impressions, initial reactions and I will go first this time. And, always say. When I watched to the trilogy as a child this was the movie always skipped. and as an adult. When I learned how to appreciate just the technical aspect of what went into making this film I was like, what did I do that to myself? Why did I pride myself? Also, it's like you know easily the darker of the trilogy like so far. In terms of what happens and the consequences and I think. Again? We're. In spoiler free? country. Or. Spoiler. Free Time Line. Or as Georgia. Oh Kim. Yeah. You're the first film did like, Hey. We're doing a time travel story except we're going to play in all of the funny antics that we would normally put into an eighties film, and then this film kind took the escalation of like we went to the past. What we go, we go to the future. And it was more of like the consequence and I I really enjoyed just the idea of consequence of what time travel does. It hearkens much more upon that anything. That's the major plot of it. So. It's funny and also to think about just all of the. I. Hate to put into a comparison pool, but it's like the Eddie Murphy Mike Myers comedy of you know. One person playing multiple roles, Bang and that's just really enjoyable. So. Jay Fox and Michael J. Fox as Michael J. Fox with Michael Introducing. Four parts and? So. Yeah. It's. It's a funny. It's a funny Expansion. An interesting consequence conversation with the film. So I as an adult heavy appreciated more than one also child. To say. Next Oh. Okay. So. Now, Alphabetical Cory. What do you think your? I. For the longest time this was my favorite one. Shot up to Neta But as again as soon as I got older, I think the first one kind of like slid to the top spot just as as just like those dams baby it's weird as you get older and you evolve it's like your tastes change depending on your life experiences but anyway. This. Is still really fun to Tom's point as a as a filmmaker. I'm just really impressed with the. Excruciating detail that went into creating this film and I really enjoy. I mean we'll get obviously spoiler free I really enjoy a few aspects of this that are very blink and you miss it kind of things as far as like characters go so Yeah I'll leave it there. I love this movie Nice Nice I'll go next. As I. Have said a time before back to the future of the whole trilogy is very special to me for this one. I just remember just being so enamored with it because it had such an aspect of like you. There are a lot of aspects even from the first movie that were included in this that you're like Oh. This is so neat and then the future aspect of like what if and that Kinda stuff and the technology that they were playing with and. This Day I. Still Want all of this day to this day just a lot of really I I really. I liked I liked it a lot It is one of my favorites in the trilogy, but it's yeah, that's I'm just gonNA leave it at back. Wow. Three one of your favorites we. Three are your favorites. We are in spoiler free so I like free baby. I lied it. I said I love it. I want some more of it I. I. Love this movie It was actually my favorite growing up and really want to think back to like why it's mostly because of the two thousand fifteen stuff. But really that's only like a third of the movie and got me thinking about like. It's such a different format from like the other two feels like because it it's more of an adventure like kind of spoiled I guess. But like they got they got rid of the the conflict of the of the time machine being problem so like They had the freedom to go wherever they wanted, and so they ended up in like three or four different. Time minds. That was really cool. It was really nice to see like Alternate. Perspectives on like a scene or on a situation and how like It can be so complex and confusing to have seen like like some of scenes like we've had in this one but. Somehow they pull it off and it's we can follow it and it's hilarious. And it's exciting and suspenseful and it's it's I think it's a really well done especially like last act of the movie I. Think it's really really well put together. We've said it on here before that allow the times, the second film hearkens to empire strikes back where you like you've established the rules. Yeah. Just play with the piece sandbox. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like that's kind of like I really dug that aspect of it does getting a taste of like three different timelines and. All that good stuff as fun. Kalem. I'm kind of in the same realm Tom for when I was watching this as a kid I slept on a little bit. But something that. I still liked it. Still like the movie as a kid. But This kind of like Mario Brothers live action feel to it. As. To pop out being like I'm bowser. Yeah. The like future future. The the bad. Dark time line has that that. That imprinted mushroom kingdom feel I loved the variance. I think. BIFF. All of breath. Made the second movie. Great. Block around a lot of fun. Okay boy all of me. Like I didn't realize how 'cause it always unsettled me like biff really unsettled me as a kid in specifically this movie but now watching it like as an adult I'm like, Oh, you're just look at you being everywhere doing everything also giving him an afternoon on. This is. Like I like the movie more now especially because I can pay attention to those like. That attention to detail be pulling from the first movie the the things that they did you're just like Oh. My God. How do you? How did you do the homages hungrier? Yeah. The helmet homage homages harnesses. Anyway I. Liked it. There you go. Is that a cheesy on is is from cheesy Hamas. So now moving past that we got everyone's initial reaction, right? Now. So now, no, that's still not spoiler technically home. That's all he's fault. So it's going to be a brief synopsis and then our production and our response will be brought to you by Josh. Actor Radio NERD ON HERE IS A. Brief Synopsis. In this Zany sequel time traveling duo Martic, fly and doctor Emmett Brown returned from saving Marty's future son from disaster only to discover their own time transformed in this nightmarish version of Hill Valley Marty's father has been murdered and built biff Tannen Marty's nemesis has profited after uncovering the secret to success a sports ALMANAC from the future Mardian the dock embark on a quest to repair the space time continuum continue continue continue. Now. So I heard. Now in theaters. Was a was it Kayla I said so I heard Nemesis is in this movie. Your best friend just trash me and pop and through the walls replacements rex founders gets taken away. Program, and so now we'll get to the last part of all the like the little production he stuff. Brought to you by me Tom. He'll distribution was universal studios brought to you film such as sing. We all remember seeing. Extraterrestrial. In King Kong the the non non legendary films. New. So okay. Behind the scenes I look up the top films of university singers them as one of the top twenty films all time from. Universal Studios. With the. Yeah Yeah. I guess y'all been sleeping US anyway. So director Robert Zemeckis. Who brought us such films as flight? BEOWULF. and. Who Fail and the one producers Bob Gale so same people as before Bob Gale did interstate sixty episodes of the road used cars Neil Canton the adventures of Buck, Ron's across the eighth dimension, the which of Eastwick and money train writers The story is Robert Zemeckis Again, who wrote such films I WanNa hold your heart more tomorrow and the witches upcoming film the way as screenplay, Bob Gill, a nineteen forty. One I want to hold your hand interstate sixty of the road and then also helps screenplay was rbis Maga's. So cast is Michael J. Fox Spin City, rescue me little Chris. We're Lord addams family regarding Oh. Sin City Dame to kill for Leah Thompson for Scorpion, J. Edgar casual sex. At the casual sex. Lover. Glover's did Willard River's edge in American Gods Thomas Thomas, F Wilson back to the future. TV. Show DC legend tomorrow and tells of Arcadia and made it shows the release date for this film was November twenty now this right now update this. No, it's right. Okay. November twenty, second nine, hundred, eighty, nine. And the runtime one, hundred, eight minutes the budget for the film was forty million remember the first one was nineteen million. So they doubled that and then a BR raked in three hundred, thirty, six, million dollars worldwide the runs go for critics is sixty five while for audience sits at a nice crispy pretty five creepy. Creepy. Percent Yes Yeah. There it is. A little little little differentiation between the audience. But now to move onto our favorite parts of the show, which is our favorite I'd like to actually go on record state a few of the things that the movie somehow got right. In Two Thousand Fifteen Okay magically. I will start off with saying that the the cubs when this world series, the find the following year but they were in the playoffs in two thousand fifteen, which is miraculous because if you know anything about the cubs that was a joke that they would ever get the world. Series. Yeah. and the. Florida we. Have biometric technology such as a fingerprint scanners touch. Id here's we have ID we have electronic payment. which was a joke as well. you have smart smart watches and smart glasses that we see throughout the entire. Future part of the film if you remember Mardi junior puts them on while he's at the dinner scene and this just like not paying attention to everyone. Also. Marlene can answer a phone call through her houses. Yeah. We technically have had a few cars by two thousand fifteen that have run off like scraps such as coffee and. An oil and unused a cooking oil and stuff like that flea is still awesome. That right. Video calling they got right which was pretty cool. And Still Looks. Great. In Twenty fifteen, she still looks awesome. So. Just, to name a few things that they got right want. To shut up also four active wear women active where baby bash's everyone walking around that shit at least in L. A. I'm just like, okay lululemon. Covers most of it. There's probably a few more. Pepsi free was available but that was a marketing stunt and twenty fifteen they released Pepsi free. Enhance free gaming. That was what it was a Ansari Gaming, which was a joke in eighty nine. became, very relevant with the. xbox, and playstation are you? Royal Baggins. Are you doing stuff that is that happened anti fifteen forest or something that's happened so far? Well, that was available by two, thousand, fifteen. So in two, thousand, fifteen use your hands means that. Wireless Gaming or or touch gaming has been around for quite a while which the was called the xbox is. The connect connect had been around for quite Said now. By Two Thousand Twenty Michael J. Fox was given on the power leases. So those fucking. Anyway. That's a few things got right which I thought was pretty cool. Cited thing did anyone watch that video I sent him on the thread? The Jimmy Kimmel thing. Yeah. I. Saw I saw that when it happened was Wyoming. Those pretty awesome for the. So the day that they come to a two, thousand, fifteen, Oct twenty, something twenty, nine, twenty, nine, yeah, twenty, nine, th, they come in and Jimmy Kimmel had this whole thing and then he did his whole bit of like. Hover boards. So. So can still get arrested on him though they got that right two, thousand fifteen still get arrested on hover board. They did get the. Fifteen and thing yeah. That guys he's running for president. Start just because my one of my favorite parts is right at the beginning. My favorite thing is Mardi saying what happens to us in the future? Do we become assholes or something just like that? That is his worry. We have become. The first. Thing about the first thing that you love that. Yeah I. WanNa. I WanNa add to that because I love that Christopher Lloyd's. Performance his delivery of Oh. No No. No. It's something. So like Joaquin's things on our no, it's not about you. It's about your kids so. That moment tiger has a bit about that. He's a give someone something so stupid that they have to reset their brain. Yes. Yeah, and he's like Yes Thompson Grass stewardess a stupid question she went. No. or No. When I say yes and then realized this whole thing. What Oh, no no no. No. That's a look at your kids I also would have loved if like. So when newly cast girlfriend walks around the corner and he Elizabeth Shue and Why am I brain farting? What is her name her character name? Jennifer Jennifer I would've loved. Mardi goes Jennifer. Did. Did you change your hair? I've seen. Channel casting like just A. IRONMAN is the best example Tom brought up during. Yeah road he comes in yeah. That's me get over it and they just go on with the movie. For one of my favorite parts on in all honesty, actually it was I re watched it again after our our. To Watch along which you guys can still watch but still having with yourself was a is something like this is a new. Oh, I really like this moment of. Experiencing Marlene MC fly. And that is Mardi daughter played by Michael J. Fox. Oh. This is long singing wishy with the hair over exaggeration but the voice got me. I was like who did the for that? I did a quick look apparently gray delile. Griffin. Oh. The voice plays on credited for it and I was like while a Zula everyone. Zule of the fire nation gave you that voice. Thank her next time absolutely and Wow that's like a good job Tom does to you for for looking at up for unlimited. Making a voice. So. Yeah and that's the way I thought. It was like I think he's talented but I don't know if he's like I don't know about there's only a few people in the world that can throw their voice into something else you hear him play at arms in one of those people. Right arm is in is that You've he's been watching any of the Google ads recently you know that he's that person yes. Also I guess one of my favorite things is I would say, so again, chat like Corey said shout to Neta our friend Yeah I di really did not like the film in an I realized the latter half of the film is like. Like a best moment the entire entire way through any type of like them having to go avoid themselves in one, thousand, nine, hundred, five Oh yeah. Oh, my God and. I was just like, wow and. Creative ways they split the screen. There are so many cool like when we were doing the stream we were like Oh look how they did then look Oh, you can see the split right there. It's just like back in the eighties it's like, wow, kudos that was so creative. Amazing. zooms in pans and stuff with that as one. Yeah. for me I have a few favorite parts but the one that always sticks out to me is I think he took the guy's wallet that Guy. I look forward to that seen throughout the whole the whole movie like wow. I think he took that guy's wallet. It just the delivery that actor. Brought to that role, it could've been really unfunny part. It really could have been just this forgettable like I. think he took his wallet like Oh ha he's accusing him of stealing but that guy. He just came to the table with something super unique and super different and just how. His his. earned. Wallet. Four or five people like behind camera that are like that he's like talking to. Oh just how excited the people in the casting must have been when he finally came in and they were like, thank you. That's it. that. Are you looking for that new line? Also. Particular seem when he asks at this is just like a fun fact of what I learned to see what CPR and it wasn't invented for another couple of years, which is like baby you think of something that's so important to us. Now you're like, wow, it wasn't even yet. Now. They used to give women cigarettes to give birth. So that was a weird time. For me the to kind of low key things that I really love and it kind of goes. With. DOC being in the international thief that he is right is doc saving the day twice once is with the door. Just flies fuck hitting biff with the door old bird you know bad tied Beth. Fisa Marty and then the ribbon having the ribbon at the end of the tunnel and just being like there for Mardi. No matter what just like actively being there like what can I do? How can I save him? What can I do like if he was nice yeah? Nice Just, how much he? He? You know? kind of enjoys it like if you see how proud he is when after he hits I, the biff with the door and just kinda like you're you enjoy adventure shit. And last thing that always. There are plethora of things that I love this film but the I'm young I'm old bit where they both at the same time shouted and pass out is. Is is really well done. It looks like killing wants to go knick knacks. Sorry there a fly like on my microphone and I kept trying to be like ha shoot and it was like ours. Episode. Go on Yeah like, Oh, I don't even know there's all we go ahead. I mean going back the dance I think the dance section is probably my favorite especially when. The whole sequence of. When his dad is gonNA come save his mom from the car and like your viewing. From behind like everything with the principal and having to get the ALMANAC like the timing of all Harridan here by the way La. La like that was. So all of that was great and they even like they gave you every piece like there there wasn't anything that was like. Little Feels very rare. Move is in a weird way. It's interesting that they replay. Quote Unquote Greatest Hits Right I film in. Yeah. Amber. They kind of have because it was for almost five years later, right? For years later. Ali Parts Baby. Yeah I loved I up on every little bit of alternate eighty-five I love like when he means Stricklin. and. He's like slow calling those guys through slackers and shooting. Shot. Walk. But it's just like you have. With this like shot and. Will. The school burned down like six years ago? He's Got It was mad bikes. I love like Hill Valley like how is dressed and like the real of like biff tower or whatever built on top of the courthouse in. Like just like the costumes. Of that whole sequence and like the rooftop scene is just like a homeless guy riot. Drunk pedestrian. Behind the curtain we do this thing where we have animated character versions of ourselves every year. As the character and that's you baby and I I recall I the first thing I want I know exactly who I wanna be I wanNA. Be Alternative five biff with the robe and it turns out. Great. Check that out on our socials and whatnot my God. For go ahead Josh I was just going to I mean the the whole It's really the sequence of revealing the future and then the hover boards sequence I they're just little. There's just little moments of a biff at one point goes something very familiar about this like old biff. That and then I. Love. The like the bad guys that are behind him just the delivery of the line of and let's you've got. These. Leave man out his laugh, shout. came out boy spot just by the way and then. Jaaz nineteen. Where is really really this time? It's really really personal, which is the. Jaws the revenge its tagline with the time it's personal and it's directed by Mac Spielberg Steven Spielberg son. Just, like that's just little things like that I like okay. The part that you mentioned as well with. With old old biff in two, thousand, fifteen, this other familiar. I like how at the beginning of this film they set it up where biff is again the antagonised. But more. So you know like is kind of like this obstacle in the first film, and here he's truly an antagonised where ever since the events of where we're going, we don't need roads. You see biff in the new nineteen, eighty-five in the good for in a good time line where he says what the Hell's going on Oh yeah and then Flying delorean I haven't seen one of those and thirty like it's just there's so many things that during this watch through like our stream and then I watched him again There's just so many little details that I'm like you guys all. Guys. zooms in one thing you don't have is obviously the Reshad it, but I think one thing I don't think it's in the first movie, but it's the second movie is the very end of that beginning seen it zooms in on biff being like what the Hell's going on. Yeah All right. This is going to be, and it has like this. You know boom like you know percussion that happens and. It's it's like. The and also right after that point I remember as a kid in joining the opening credits enjoying the fucking little soaring. WHY DO USA clouds. There's another thing that they got right about twenty fifteen while we don't have flying cars traffic is still terrible. Yeah one thing I also some. somethings I. I. Really actually loved that aren't like huge moments is actually right before it's in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty five, and it's after Mardi gets clocked by BIFF and he takes Almanac back and he's like I messed up man he knocked. Me and then it's all my fault and then doc really quickly does. Is Like Where do you go? It's like so on. And I'm going to tell you about this site doc that is just like. There's more to you than just whack. You'll scientists like well to me. It's the is the integrity of science and were because it's he has he has two things I re he postulates two things I really love in this film The universal question is why and then also is nineteen fifty-five a time junction like how all these events always come back to their and I, was like that's a really interesting things like if. We're GONNA come back there you have to have some sense of reason, and why would a scientists be like? Why would you go back there at that time specific? Why did he go any other time that other than you know the story writers wanted to do that and be like, Hey, we could also maybe potentially cut down on some location that we just Greenspan but also if you can write it to make sense that's impressive. Where's your way? Backwards, the like points it out I think is a huge deal and like him pointing out like this must be a significant point in time like that's enough. showed up to the writers because they could have just had it happen. They could have just been like, let's go back to that time. But they took the time to actually deconstruct. Okay. Let's give them a reason to go back. It's because it's time junction where it splits into two different timelines. It's a big care and they wanted to make sure that the plot like, yeah. You could pick apart the time travel parts of it of course all day but you know as far as a cohesive story, they follow it was it's it's like when they do fan service, there's a big reason for it and and I think it sets a tone for sequels and stuff like that. But I'm also a certain thing against Christopher Christopher Lloyd thing. That man. Can do no wrong. I just want him to do all the expedition for every movie. At the beginning of the film where it's like space did you bring your magic? She saw Hillary and I had to do something don't worry I won't put it back it up and then they leave Jennifer ended after nineteen eighty five. Timelines like we can just leave. And Jennifer don't worry when things come back the world will change around I'm like, wow. Yeah. You just the thing is it is a hand wavy thing it is a hundred ridden handwriting. Does it is just I would highly recommend watching the video. There's a video version because the ride doesn't exist anymore the back to the future ride from universal. It was so good. There's a there's an intro video you watch and it's like seven minutes long and it has Christopher Lloyd and biff in it. Basically biff as escape from nineteen, fifty five and his in the in the lab, and you have to try to find him in. Anyway I'd highly right. It's worth watching just for the performances alone like I watched it the other day and I was like they got rid of this. Only universal studio rides that were just here's this talking thing of telling you what the story is, and then you go onto a ride and you just bounce up and down for par used to do that. He's. A little animatrix. Great. They're getting back to that now. Yeah. I think they're realizing that price nate there is a there is a uncanny valley kind of thing or like there is a limit to how much digital entertainment can give someone at a theme park where they go. I also depends on your screen refresh rate if you're just GONNA throw up or not. Yes. Although I. WanNa I, WanNa pop in with some biff appreciation along because. I. Know. But he's just in this movie specifically though because you've got him being like, Cyborg biff who seems to be short-circuiting constantly says it watching his facial expressions bio implants were wrong. Yeah like he like that was just phenomenal that actually scared me as a kid but as an adult I'm like holy crap like, wow, good job and then you have old biff and then you have nine hundred, fifty, five biff has settled the nogoya timeline biff and also have mad dog Tannin in that one picture ask little. Five different people in one ended with also also you have. The growing into the alternate time line biff of. Say. God bless America. You know like kind of share. We're all just like, oh, he's like. Meeting the President Yeah What Are you? GonNa? Do you marry Lorraine's? Third Time's a charm. That like isn't Reagan. Fifth term or something like that The. Nixon. Nixon. Oregon. Get Regan. Loved them the joke in the first one in so they included him in the. Current president. Yeah Yeah. Okay Because he's also in in two thousand fifteen as the lake the menu guy. Terrifying But but yeah, everything about. Everything about bit biff was dislike horrifying and it really solidifies that he is like. His entire family line ambitious like horrible people they're just like well the same thing with with. Marty's family like it just kind of. You know like his his. Grandma uncle or whatever great uncle or whatever got killed because he couldn't let people call chicken chicken, right? Like how much of it is choice in how much of it is DNA I will say Marty has some powerful ass jeans. Lake, his genetic coding is just me talking about Denim I sack. High waisted and they're so. You know what I'm saying just turns me on. Hell Yeah. I'm with you Tom. No I don't think it works with the laugh. Know. Marnie McGuire has powerful jeans where you see no lorraine in any of his children, they're all him. Just thinking about that in the reality if we predominant emails like, wow they all look like and in as we'll find out later films. Like no one looks like George would fly. No one looks like Lorraine Noel excited happens when you break contract with Guy I wanNA come back through films here that epic. Okay. So next. Question for this, but I'll pin for the third movie. Okay okay. Yeah I see what you're saying. I mean the next time on back to the future I could do a whole i. think we could do a whole episode on favorite parts yes. Yes. So I think we can safely say that we know that there's a ton I'll say one thing is I did like when I was a kid watching the end of being to be concluded. Gals like and then they show you a little snippet of like, Oh, ask like it felt like. I talked about on the first one was like the first one is like if feel so standalone, it doesn't have to do anything and it gives you that of like would you want more and this one's like, okay. You ask for more and how entire you're seeing the wind Western Union Guy Yeah that whole. We're wine even more backup to like after they they succeed. After the ALMANAC is burnt like from that moment to the end is like still riveting and it's still exciting and he's up there with the thunder and the yeah you gives you want your wife after he goes away like what happens next and then go onto the next. Bit Seeing. It took me a while to figure that what that was because it looks like it just says ninety nine, but it's actually the it's the it's the fire in a spiral. Yeah. So it's just kind of spiraled into the bat. And I think he said, doesn't he say like I guess about Twenty Bucks or something? Yeah. He he lost the also you. Also, like that they they kinda give you like. It messes with you a little bit because you're like, okay. They can go anywhere in time at this point. So where would they go and that had a very noir feel for like a second like, oh, they're going to go. A. Bit further fact like the twenty four. Yeah. Twenties or thirties, and then when he's like, Oh, I'm tired of the like the Western Union. So. Then it's like all. Oh, going. I I have something for you really intense in it almost. Grab, a gun and he. Has Been around for still around Snow No. VERY EASILY TO PEOPLE I. Broke and sad, shout out. Yes. Also shot up to me fed the very end of the film where they say the title we gotta go back. Our I'm back I'm back from the future future and it's like, oh, great scream another great scream on Christopher Laurie. Oh what he sees as I did it he jumps and then also goes running and he. Grabs me. But. The end on a great Scott and a faint favorite characters. Favorite characters we when yeah. Go ahead. I can go I know mine right off the bat to same dock and biff. Caitlyn said I, mean that's the reason is because he plays five different gifts and not only that but he also Do you have a specific deaf I don't I don't mean to be honest just it's really more the actor that I'm impressed with and I enjoy seeing the different nuances he brings to the performances same. Like. You know us being an assuming old man and then, but really he is secretly like plotting and planning and. I just I think that it's a wonderful performance and yeah. is, but I gotta give it to Christopher Lloyd and these films is just like I don't think he can do any wrong and anyone else trying to pull off the wild shit he's trying to pull off characterizing this movie would come off so corny but just has so much heart that I just. Duck. And I'm. Flip that I'm biffing DOC. But for all the same reasons so. Coffee, happy and paste for case Golfing. Corey's. Dogs. What I just said, biff. DOC is like the given for me like I left a space of like doc doc and then dot. Dot Anytime, if no matter what bird, we'll say the MARDI MC five Michael J. Fox pays the same amount of character. That out. My favorite is biff and Marty. Because of you plays four roles that he plays in this and one of my favorite my actual here part of the entire that I didn't even mention is the the drive back seen with board in the tunnel. Oh. Yeah. That whole sequence of him realizing that he's still there and like the chase and him having to like Hover Board back out in the. Battle. Literate Him with his car or when a completely silent. Scene it's just music and yeah and facial expressions in it's really really well done sequence. It's a and I love the little nuances which kind of goes on to explain why they don't remember Mardi when he's behind the tree and young biff is talking about the car and he's like, oh. Yeah I remember that I remember just thought about it for a while and I think that's kind of the filmmakers way of being like not everyone remembers everything you piece of Shit. Also, probably in one thousand, nine, hundred, nine, one remember anything or they chose not to remember it. We're here in two thousand twenty where like never forget. These were interested about it. Forget about. Mark for me I think. It's probably. It's so hard not to pick the bay but bigger it's it's it's it's become a reasons to in this one. It's safe biff for Caitlin. He's not my bay. You love him don't. Lorraine wage. Yeah I really enjoyed her actually as like. As really old grandma. Is like. Your father is Bob House like Oh that's kind of Nice. Ends like you know how to hydrate a pizza. but I think yes. Oh biff and. Potassium Dr Doc Doc doc is the one just because. Yeah just that part where he's like, where do you go is this like? The stakes are always so anyways. That's it for me. So now qualm Sony's I. Am one who's got him go ahead corey leaving the fucking door open all the time in the keys in the car and not learning a damn thing. Yeah that's it. That's why Marnie he's not my favorite. So convenient. That they took all this time to explain why nineteen fifty five is the the hub for a and yet how does get the car well? Let's have Mardi. Leave the door open and the keys in the ignition. A walked of a time travel machine and Martin doesn't even do anything. He just stands on the fucking middle of the street for like twenty minutes until doctor told me I will say Cory I mean we've been playing this little DVD campaign for a little bit and seeing how much you drop your shit for an animal. The ignition of A. Too hard because it's a quiet neighborhood at middle of the night. Yeah. You hear the your car surround drive. But if it's future. Success, in have you ever have, you ever heard an electric car start, you'd barely hear that shit in the car. because. Everything, he can hit before he could. I don't even mind that I can suspend my disbelief of earshot or they're just thinking at some other or whatever it is but. Leaving the door. Keys in the car or Mardi MC fly as. Is. Just too loud can't hear it anymore his ears are. Shops in his own of silence. But. Yeah. That's that's really my only warm with this move I got some qualms by also have a logic gap that I want to ask. I. Think I have it figured out no other person other than old man biff. mammoth has like all about to die when he leave the time machine. And I'm assuming it's just because when the beginning to or at the end no at the beginning. At the beginning I forget where he says brace for temporal jump whatever L. Brace and I'm assuming that's what it takes to win. Like. Like people shouldn't be on roller coasters type thing because he looks like he's Martin. was like? Living Deleted scheme where he doesn't mayors. Yeah others of that there's a deleted scene in which after he comes back from like. that. Looks like how Mardi looks when he's playing guitar sweaty and sick in the movie they in the one that we saw Yes. E- biff behind a car like. And they cut just before in this deleted scene where he actually disappears. Earlier versions and so yeah, it was much darker. That's Just, like of like just imbibe in like drugs and alcohol, and like you have infant and you're rich that gotta die sooner that only makes sense in in this story standpoint benign timeline standpoint because that time is still intact. Because the way. Back. To the future, then it's like it's only the future of this alternate timeline not the future where you lost the magazine or would be an entirely different like his life would be completely like this that we have is the down out like had a car detailing service that kind of thing like barely by whereas if would be living somewhere completely different different like. So hither version of himself, this is the time line logic thing because if that is true that there's a that time line, still intact win the nineteen fifty-five Marty. Not Disappear. That's true. There's also the question of. Applying the same logic from the first film to this one when disappears like shouldn't be disabled. It's It's just a point where it's like why does disappear and then does Lorraine's boobs not grow. Immediately. Those kind of things it's like that that works for the story to show the convenience because that he exists they exist outside the timeline technically. wasn't doing based on your timeline like only things writing almost. altered. Yeah, he was almost dead in the first one, right? Mardi Mardi Yeah. He almost disappeared. Yeah. If changed eighty-five that new isn't that twenty-fifty only thing I can explain. The the people who disappear are people who exist outside the time line that have time traveled and been in the delorean. And so they don't belong to either timeline. Really. So anyway, but also you've seen how he drives in the fifties so you may have just gotten himself. Might have. Any qualms I have I. What I love about our show is having to watch things with such with so much more like attention to attention and like where news to modern me that Marty was in the backseat of the car talking on a walkie talkie while driving on Mike Yeah he's got the top down, but it's not that loud he could hear it but then I noticed Saddam. Is. Adjusting the radio like like he's picking up something that's he thinks hearing that. I'M GONNA share in the third, and when we do the third episode for tomorrow come back. I totally missed after seeing these movies. Over decades many many times countless I'm Mike. Josh so is this a qualm or not? Joe? Fine I. Did. You listen I said it used to be a qualm. and. I just WanNa talk about it. flies. Gun I'll I'll do might one particular is this is what I think is like and I hate to coin it this way I call this the jaw Sweden problem. And it's not like a Sweden problem but it's like what just we did with the avengers made it where every marvel movies like we had to be like the avengers movie, we can't have any identity ourselves where Robert Zemeckis in Steven. Spielberg's collaboration on this film allowed for Steven Spielberg to say, Hey, use some my properties that you can have access to John, jaws and Things like that. So is. Universal properties, which is the the good bad ugly series. Yeah. Yeah. When you sweat and also it's the sense of. Like going back to nine, hundred, fifty, five, which I I said I really enjoyed. But I realized like when you enjoy something really good. Then everyone feels like they have to do the same thing. And I feel like that's what happened with sequels it after this film like the nineties was wrought with sequels that are just like do the same thing we did last and then just change it up a little bit. Change Your name you know like just change it up a little a little mean with the homework and it's not like it's a quantum on the film, but it's like kind of like. Hey because of this now, intellectuality exists and now he's GonNa be weird pull, but it's hard not to think about like The teeny Megyn Ninja Turtles, me. You'll. You'll get their. Team into action. The third one is like you know rural Japan or whatever. So it was like going back in time and it's it feels it feels different than the other two that's more of an egregious. I would say that the the sequels feel way worse than the first one in general. Yeah but no yeah, it's. It's. It's crazy where it's just like a feel like this is almost like the birthplace of intellectuality of like do everything you can to hit the audience's emotional spots. Effort for whatever the cost. The way. The way in this in a good way but not everyone's Robert Zemeckis not everyone's Bob Gale, not everyone is. Neil Canton so all I. Lloyd. Yeah. So it's like. In a way you showed everyone something really good. But now you have a bunch of imitators and it's a very interesting thing where I feel like that I think maybe that's why Oh, the reason why I was a kid I really didn't like it because I didn't like the dark timeline. Isolated I didn't like I'm going to say this in the most politically incorrect way. I can say I don't like big titty. Lorraine like it scared the shit at world like what happened. So I mean they basically. Framed it all like she's a monster like. League just waking up to a young mom it's waking up to the most like monstrous quote unquote version. He's like not even think she's had to sacrifice all the. Parts that were. Not, about her. Yeah Lake. completely opposite of what we knew and loved about her so to speak, right. She's basically like a slave in this cornell. Your standards are gone her like you know it's Just really sad. Adult realized why I? Like, it doesn't hurt me I understand what happened to it, but it's actually a really is like the death of the character because. Her husband dies and she still loves him murder murdered. She is now literally like a you know, I hate to say it but she's symbiotic biff like if she doesn't have him than all her fucking kids pretty much go to the wayside and at the end of the day she submits to him she says like he was right I was wrong. I had it coming and it's like that's like the telltale sign of the toxic relationship, the abusive relationship domestic violence and as an adult I, get to engage with it in a level were as a kid I was just like I don't like him because. I'm uncomfortable I. Don't like this little. I. Just. Didn't like like I think all the prosthetics I saw but now as don I get to enjoy because I'm like, wow, they did everything they can to make sure it was different because I think as a kid too. I did not like. fucking griff. I hated the. took the answer. It's like Oh, God stop to stop or every everything about the. Super Future dark timeline, future the. Because they were playing them up. They were almost so big that that's like. To too big to ordering to for me as a kid does like radio boomer Al I don't like change. What you're saying, and then as a kid, I, really enjoyed the nineteen fifty-five stuff and so for me as adult now it gets to be like, okay, this is what you're doing. This is your argument and this is how I have to engage. This is the ride to take you on and so it's just fun to engage with it. Now back I realize like why I don't know I, guess some critics have this as a lower score than other than the other films. So it's it's interesting and I also think that stupid and you just engage with the film. Who Else? I I don't have any like concrete qualms because it is one of those things where. With this film when I was a Kid I'm I'm for some reason, very bothered about leaving Jennifer in the trash. Like I know that like the. Recycling. Then also for the first thirty minutes of the second film recycling the same shots. Yeah. But it was supposed to be a couple of hours of originally. The film was know how long they left leaving her bell Oh. Oh Yeah. I was just for that meeting, but then it kind of. Yeah. The whole kind of falls apart when you realize like. Every time doc has to go and then still doesn't do what he's supposed to do. Right like, yeah. Also wise. How is he late all the time isn't this his thing isn't he's supposed to be this time Dr Lord. Oh, that means nothing I don't know. Past. receive. Yeah there I've felt well, I guess if she woke up in flailed number finder, take her back and we would never see battle family. That's true. They would have had some. Could have expected they actually. Ingredient they went there too. I noticed I'm watching it again. They fixed what they went there to do. quickly. And the movie would have ended thirty maximum. And so it's like, all right. Drama. Drama and just because I think it's been pointing out somewhere I can't remember where. But like it's not really kwame just a funny detail that like there's no way fifth years of sports satistics would fit into like something that small. I don't think it's full statistics. Stores, because and also I mean, yeah, it's interesting because also they did talk about dust dust resistant paper. So Yeah. You don't know baby could be fooled outs. That is also a like. Like it's obvious of how quickly one thing can like butterfly effect change. So if he's betting on sports teams. Wouldn't that change the makeup of the teams based on how he bets On, and that's the thing where it's like what we pick apart it's I mean if he. Aaron sorkin mentality of betting a numbers versus bidding on teams. Yes. Because people don't because the way. You that baseball change because of that mentality of like we don't get runs we get we get hits and so like if they like okay. BIFF is hitting it. kind of becomes like inside trading and it becomes prediction stock market trading so. Again. This is one of those like if you start. Specifically. When you bet usually bet on just the score, not necessarily players or anything like that. So I don't think it would change too much. But if I feel like it would have affect on the world for sure it did. It made him a lot of money. Yeah. Illinois affected the entire also Hill Valley became mad valley. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. We'll burn down. He won a lot and often so it is a nuclear part of me that goes to it wasn't just the betting though he then invested in other. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm just like I'm kind of like exploring Caitlyn's thing of like what if like the sports teams like Oh, biff Tannen bet on this and then they start paying attention to his bets and maybe they started adjusting their team like I don't know I'm like exploring her her. As the rabbit hole I think also what people possibly can do is you can have coaches be like. What's the team. Just take you just take the easy way on say in this time line, it didn't happen that we're. In a time line where knows? No remembers. Calvin Klein. Members BIFTEK, makes. Money. Lorraine just looked up Calvin Klein when she got older and I was like, Oh, I guess, maybe that's what he looked like. Okay Fair enough. You went onto become famous and make. Qualms. Lot not necessarily. Okay. I guess move onto the final part of the show. Josh's favorites the rating Higgin we'll go reverse real that means I know. About Five. Five core I wouldn't change a damn thing about this film. Next right. Yes. Yeah. Then it would be all the. Same. Five? Oh, it's me now. I. Give it a four point. Nine. There is just not like to me something I and that's the thing is like I can't put a finger onto but like I it's not were the first one was. that. Josh. Five. Yeah Oh Here comes. Shit. Forte. Today four, point nine, today four, point nine, I actually feel the exact same way Tom there's something I can't put my finger on, but it's just not as like. Snappy is swears was yeah. It wasn't as slick like it's still really good and I am I gonNA does a lot more than that other films do yes and while the majority of the new nation was incorrect stuff to give a shout out to Charlotte and Mora. Moro forget thankfully. Guessing either Tom or Caitlyn on that one. Area. That's it. Everybody at home. Thank you so much for listening or watching this the second part of our three part trilogy anniversary event. Really appreciate you all for being around for three years. Three years we've been doing. Muslims hundreds of episodes we have done. All sorts of really fun stuff if you are new nerd on. Welcome nice to have do stop by our website nerd on DOT TV. It has all of the information of everything that we do all the linke links Check out our twitch. 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Radical Uncertainty with Mike Castle

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Radical Uncertainty with Mike Castle

"Mega is an improvised satire. From the staff of fictional mega church. Hi i'm halley. Lebron and this is mega coming to you from twin hills community. Church where every week. We're giving our mega charge. A tiny family feel by introducing you to members of our church staff and our community. Ooh we treat in. It is a traitor. Well per usual joined by my co host. He's a youth pastor for our high school ministry called climax. Please welcome a gourmet haley. Gray was wrong. Eliane devastated oh no gray wise. Well as you know. I left last week to be a cast member. On god's house which is a new christian reality show produced by hollywood producer biff mifflin of hand of gone productions and you know so show twelve christian singles the price on an island in if they are all engaged and expecting by the end of the last week. You win a million dollars. Did you not find true. Love or at least christian law kelly. I was voted off. I didn't even know you could do that on that. Show i no. I didn't either wasn't even a thing. They invented some new rule in week. One and basically everyone just ganged up on me. Why i have a theory. One of my theories is that my looks but just a bit too intimidating because most of the guys there were like indiana sevens. And then you know i also started thinking about it and i'm pretty sure did not real christians. You know yeah. I mean i'm pretty show. One of the guys was even a mormon because one night and a hot tub on the first nine. He basically told me he's like i'm gonna marry three these ladies and the rest of you pretty much screwed so wow just so depressing. If his name was something like levi or knee high or fago or something. You have a red flag right and sounds. Ot but it's a little bit off. You might be more. That's right while plus he was like ripped in super blond and he said that he'd never seen a black person. Irl in so. That's a dead giveaway. I'm so sorry gray. I know you were really looking forward to be in. On god's how hell you know. I realized that. I'm actually in god's house every single day when i come here to twin hills so that's an amazing silver lining and. I'm just so busy right now. And i realize like i am an authentic real christian. Yeah i'm on authentic person and you know i already on tindall's instagram followers. And a free trip to maui. So i guess jokes on then hazy. There you go. That's the spirit right you know. Those mormons are tricky because my son day was saying something about mormons and i was like. Don't even get involved. It's crazy talk. They got their that. Their religion has magic underpants magic spectacles and seven layers. Heaven and day goes well. What about your religion. Mom you got talking snake. Speaking bushes and seven had dragons. And i said what do you mean my religion. It's your religion to anyway. Go to your room day. i know. Anyway holly how is you. We hope is better than mine. Oh well to be honest with you gray we had a whole hullabaloo over at the labatt again because my son day he a evidently he was doing stuff online with crypto currency and. I didn't even know anything that it was. Apparently he got into some dough. Sh- coin noting and then he traded it. Or whatever you do. It's like what are these stickers playing cards. He traded it ended up selling it or something made one hundred thousand dollars and donated it all to a women's clinic and like day. What did you just do. You just blew your inheritance buddy. Just got so excited. And i got so sick. I mean i don't even know what is doj coin. It's like a coin dogs. I think that would make sense that it all goes to women's clinic. Hey everybody we have an exciting announcement. Well actually to exciting threat. I m a very excited so the first one is that we have a live show in denver colorado on july twenty seven twenty. Three twenty one. That's right it's two shows. Actually we have a seven pm and nine pm. So we're really looking to sell those out head to rise. Comedy dot com or also teaching some improv workshops in denver which will be a blast. Yeah i i think if you've ever taken an improv class knows your time because we're going to have a really good time. The second incredible news. I was so excited about is that we have a show in. Chicago are high town On eight eight. August eight and we're playing at lincoln hall. Which if you've ever been there is one of the dopers venues in all of america so please please if you live in chicago or in the surrounding area come see us lincoln hall on the eighth of august. These shows are gonna have audience interaction. They're going to have like the live actual podcast interview like we do normally and we're going to have live elements. There's going to be singing. there's gonna be dancing. There's going to be surprised if there's going to be incredible guests so if you've ever thought about becoming a patriot member now would be a really cool time because you can get discount codes and all that and We are looking for shows and more cities those right to head to check us out denver on the twenty third of july. That's rise comedy dot com and on the eighth of august. You can head over to l. h. Dash s. t. dot com. That's lincoln hall dash shuba tavern dot com. If you're a chicagoan you know that spot. So check us out on the eighth. We can't wait to see you. There was he live in person. Well just like jesus said let the little children come to me. Our guest today welcomes fully grown children into mentorship. Ladies and gentlemen. Please welcome mr matt cassel. Oh my god is fantastic video. Thank you guys so much for having me. Oh it is really nice to see you matt and just can't wait to see what you're up to this is. This is really great. You're doing something that is just you know you know. I work with youth as well and so i love that you're working with with kids. That need help one eight. Tell us a little bit about it. Sure okay i'll save the autobiographical stuff at the end avenue. Just tell you about the program. I to get started. So it's open to kids of all ages over eighteen and what we basically like to do is if these kids were at risk or they got something going on with their family their own kids and anything they need guidance then they come to us and we. We like to use some of our tools that we've designed for our program to get them back on the right track. Okay i guess be confused because when you said you wanted to come on and talk him out you know forming molding young lives and you said i'm doing this sinkhole brother's keeper and i said that's awesome. I realize okay so eighteen. would you call any kid. Hollywood big brother program for big kids right. That's right that's exactly correct. Yeah i would say we've never had anyone as young as eighteen. So that's that's the that's the that's the youngest that we're willing to accept. It's usually more like twenty five. To around seventy seventy one. Okay is charming. And what an important ministry because you know what we truly never really do grow up. We're all god's children in that right. That's exactly that's exactly correct. Now how did he get involved in something like this where you're working with kids who are really adults. Well let me tell you. As a child. I was an only child and i know i'm recovering but i got a kid could ever want my parents just said yes to every single women fancy that i felt for a long time. I thought i was on top of the world right only to discover i was making a fool of myself was making a fool my parents because i didn't have anyone there to belittle me or caused me to question myself or what. I won An older sibling. Mike do and so. That's when i realize older people my lives what they always do the thing that they would they would just kind of they would ask. Questions seem a little incredulous and like maybe what. I was doing a bad idea. And that's how i stumbled on this thing. I call this radical uncertainty. And so the the way that this works is whenever someone is competent about something. That's going on something that they like to do. You just gotta throw in a little are you. I mean i don't know about that and you kind of let it unravel and i've noticed that it really helps helps people especially people who think they don't need how that is a really fascinating psychology halley. Because you know this a lot with teens where you know. I do a similar thing. Radical and sydney have not called that but also the same thing. Like no. don't do that. That's bad idea because really you can lead. You can lead a horse to water but if you tell them how not water you should reconsider it. They're not going to drink it right. And i think that is what matt is doing. That is so so awesome. Yeah because we will not. I will never say no. It's more that i will. Just i will say i don't know so repeatedly that you start to feel like it could be enough. You know they say like. I kinda wanna ask this girl out of go. Oh i don't know. I don't know i don't know and then they eventually it becomes a kind of no okay. So what do you know. Know exactly exactly and that. And that's kind of the train of thought that i encourage. Everyone is the moment that you think do know about something. Then what if what if there's a voice presumably from an old slightly older person who's slightly if at all possible condescending your life you could picture for this if you just keep saying i don't know eventually you realize you don't really know anything and so so that's and for me too. I apply this everywhere except to my faith because when it comes to my faith i i just believe. It's simple as that for me. I just believe so so to me. It kind of defaults. I can get rid of everything else. And honestly just focus on the fate there and he's awesome. What a smart psychology. 'cause you know how it is with kids. I've got kids. I mean you tell them something's a bad idea and then all of a sudden it's the only thing they wanna do you tell them no and then you've basically given them their marching orders so you're kind of doing this not even reverse psychology. It's more just like a looping psychology where then the you know the the grown kid doesn't really know what end is up at some point but now they know you do because your the mentor. You're the big brother. And let me say i try not to talk about my personal life too much in this sphere but i also i have six kids i you know i have kids But my with them. I just let them do whatever they want. They call all the shots and if they say they're gonna do something. I let them do it. That's i don't because i don't want to you know it's different with kids with their another species adults. I kind of understand a kid kids. I mean their skulls aren't even completely and and how are they gonna learn except by trial and error. You know you can say. Don't climb up a tree you know too high and they really just have to fall out of that tree to learn so. That's a cool form of parenting. That you that you're doing kind like a hands off. Just try to stay out of their way. You know especially lately why again. I do try not to talk about this very much in this kind of sphere. But they have gotten to a point now where they changed the locks that it doesn't matter it doesn't matter sport with adults. The thing that i find is that a lot of the time they already know that they don't wanna do something with it. They want to do something but they need someone there to say that they don't know so that the adult can then make that decision and kind of find it on their own for. Yeah it's an actually. As i think about how it's been hard to track. I guess i don't really know. I guess. I don't really know what's going on but you know had kind of a tough week anyway so i don't really know what's going on in my life right now but i actually did this. Perfect why we. Why don't we try a little with you go. Okay what's going on in your personal. Well you know. I was on You know season. One of god's house is Up until a week ago. And i'm not only anymore. So did you win. I know it goes on for twelve weeks. Oh sure. I haven't heard. I have not heard of this show. I'll i'll admitted to. It's a high honor to be on it. I assumed it was by you. Know i basically you know got voted off which i didn't even know his potted it and it asks disappointment. Well they made. It's crazy how he because they made up a rule in week one could vote people off. That wasn't even part of the show but the eleven cast members. That weren't me together. And kinda did this whole thing. And i'm just feeling i don't know like i don't care i don't really need it. Okay well let me ask you this. Are you so sure that they can't call another audible right at the end where they vote you as you one. We just don't know we just don't know. Yeah yeah i guess. I don't know i mean i mean we. I guess we don't really know anything right inside the accept. Jesus is god. It's here's a question. I mean you've got cast by major hollywood producer. Biff mifflin from burbank. California my question is is he a christian because if he's not a christian then we don't know if we can't trust him but if he's a believer then it might be good news for you. I don't know halle because you know. Come to mifflin jewish name and then a lot of times. People are really just trying to capitalize on the brand of christianity without really being believes themselves. And that's what. I'm going to believe or go so there you go because i wasn't even going to push in that direction but i was starting to as you were saying i was starting thinking. Okay all right yeah. That sounds great. Yeah so. I mean matt. I guess what i'm feeling is okay. That was helpful. I guess what. What are you doing week in week. Out in brother's keeper with these adult kids. What do you actually do you guys hanging out. You going places. Do you take them on activities. They kinda kinda meeting with them where they are be someplace bad or whatever all of the above all absolutely all the above hanging out. We're going out. We're making plans. We had a hiking retreat last week. How long did a a small part of the appalachian trail. We did one. Full week of that very bonding because this is where you know the the radical nature of this really comes into play. I absolutely insisted. I carry the map and guide us and right away i started out in this thing and i'm spreading seeds of doubt among everyone and i'm saying i don't know i don't know if this is right. I'm not sure if we're even in the right place. How can we be sure. This is the appalachian trail and pretty soon everyone to become so panicked that all they wanted to do was talk about anything other than the appalachian trail and so we all start really bonded and having a great time before we know. What's what we're on the on the ten freeway and we get picked up we get taken his safety and it turns out to be a really bonding experience. What state turned out we. We were in california. So so i was right to question it. So okay okay. Yeah definitely going to be a bit far from the appalachian trail. I was well. First of all i just was so encouraged by seeing. You work your magic on gray. I was wondering if you could do it to me. Because i'm a grownup kid who experiences disappointments and stuff like for instance. If you were my big brother mentor. And and i said to you. I just feel like my husband lance like sportscenter more than he likes me. what would you say to encourage me. Well gosh i mean well. Here's what i would say. Are you even sure he likes sports here. Here here here me out here. What what if he. What if when. He's watching sports center. He's thinking about something totally separate and so he goes to put the sportscenter on so that he can zone out a little bit and perhaps think about you and so part of it is now. It's all tied up in that. And so when he wants to focus on you he turns on the tv so he can zone out a little bit bigger you re just canopy shores when it always always come back to. That's true and it does seem like he goes someplace else. He's thinking about me and the nice things he could do for me say to me. That's so awesome he. He's in a meditative state. I had actually seen that before with sportscenter in. Espn is certain into purely meditative state. Wow that is so cool. I think you're right. I mean especially about my husband lasts labatt because one time we were in the checkout at kroger and he picks up the sports illustrated swimsuit issue and i immediately felt so threatened and so betrayed and really hurt and quite frightened and he's flipping through it all of these girls their whole bodies are shown and i said what are you doing. And he goes well. This girl reminds me of you. And then he point and he opens up the centerfold one cages and he goes. This one really reminds me a cover and he goes. This one reminds me. He goes everywhere. I look all i see is you and i just felt so good about that. How yeah no. That's unbelievably romantic. That is truly unbelievable. Romantic right yeah. No that's amazing. Yes so that's all i would say. It's a helpful way to look at the world is win. Something is causing us. Some kind of stress. You just kind of question it into oblivion and it becomes nebulous. Now you can bend it shape into whatever you want. And then who's to say that's not the answer. Wow i mean you must know ma- because with six kids you know about romance that's true that's true. I've had some fun. I've had some fun. What is he better half like. Well her name is liz. She is a very mysterious woman. Who i'll tell you that she she kind of. Let me do whatever i'm going to do. And she along time ago she said. I don't wanna get in the way of whatever. This journey is iran. And she she really committed to the job that she had. She's a police officer and so she started just really spending a lot. A lot of time at the precinct and so yes. She's not around a lot but sometimes she'll come by the house. I mainly i don't wanna get into it. But i am staying in a small tent outside of the house right now just until i figured out. How just how to get in. Because one of the doors is no longer i was able to get. I open it. I ended the lock bricks there. So i'm like they're doing a whole other thing then i don't know what it is but it seems good ultimately good like they're having fun they're being constructed genuity exactly looney tan sense. Because i almost walked into it. I almost walked into it and what fun that would have given them good. I'm glad you didn't because i was wondering now. Is that a collarbone break that you dealing with. Because i was just gonna ask you about the comfort actually. Yeah i just said who's to say that my arm is supposed to hang all day like this without any support. And i put this thing on. I said maybe maybe comfort sling really looks like an injury but well. It's an acquired injury as when my doctor was telling me that you can. It actually starts to become the hurt because of not using it or whatever. I guess we build up certain muscular. Keep everything right but so anyhow so sometimes the kids will call my wife at the precinct. She'll come down. It's all thing and the cops are trying again. I'm saying there's bricks they're and they're not listening to me but even during those times my wife will come over to me. And she'll say how things things good and she'll check in with me and shook out and see i'm still. I'm still on my journey of kind of questioning everything right and so but she supports me. She supports me. Yeah it must be nice to win you lying on the ground of the tent because that slain you know have always thought how he wouldn't be cool if arms chests because you know when you lying on your side if you're aside sleep which should be if you want to build muscle mass while you sleep you know If you're aside sleep just the arms on the side be cool if they of come at the front in that slang really makes it seem. You've got like a little chicken wing. Nick coming out from your pack or where you should be. You develop all sorts of new reflexes. If i get an itch on my back i can touch it. Like you wouldn't believe there's something about it. The arm is ready to go up and it just it pinpoints a spout on the back with not praying mantis motion. Actually yup yup. And you know what. I wouldn't worry about them. Changing the lax and brick in the doorways. And all that. Because here's the thing you know you don't really like or enjoy a relate to kids because it's just not how god made you. You really are more wired to mentor grownup kids. We'll just think these are six individuals who win they're grown. You're really going to be able to kind of introduce yourself and get started. Yeah and i think that's a whole that's to me kind of the key of parenting is it's this. See you on the other side of this kind of thing. Everything for these first eighteen years you know to each their own right and so you'll just see him on the other side and you know hopefully we can be friends that's right and i wanna just throw back at and you face something you said. In a good way you know the radical uncertainty you. Utah know why you're in the tent. You don't know why the bricks today you don't know what your kids are up to. You don't know even what your wife is up to the present moment but the radical and sinti of that could really mean that you're in a an a an amazing strong loving family And as long as you kind of keep that on certain you know you're doing you're you're really important work that the only thing in life is that you've found calling it really works via. I'd say another way to say. Radical uncertainty is faith. You said it said it okay. Yeah because look. Here's what i realized. This is just something. I know to be true. Every person looks at their childhood and they go what the hell was going on there and they look at the whole thing and they can hardly make heads or tails of it. And so. Who's to say that this upbringing my kids add with the wife's he's at the precinct. Dad's sleeping in the tent outside. We're rebuilding the inside out all this who's to say they're not going to be grownups looking back and going but dr childhood. That was perfect. Dad really did it right right now. I'm thinking about it. So do you think that building a small house inside. The house is that what is going on. That's something i've considered it. So i occasionally. I've thought that's a very very large possibility apart also thinks maybe he's just going straight down. Oh i don't know maybe. They built the walls on all sides and now they're just tunnel down i. It's been a long time since i've been inside his to say who's to say. Have you ever had matt a case of somebody in the brothers us program that you've just not been able to break through to as somebody who's just kind of thrown back at ya and it has whose life is just a mess. What do you do then when you really can't be the mentor. The faith guide if you will these big kids or adults is we say well. I want you know that happens all the time like absolutely all the time. I'm not gonna tell you otherwise. I'm not gonna say oh. We got this perfect score. Home runs every single time. No sir. 'cause a lot of people say i've had enough of all these questions or you don't know anything this is supposed to help me. And then they'll really get angry but the key and i truly do believe this. The key is that when they storm out that door. You gotta say to yourself. I helped you got just assure yourself you know what they're mad now. But i'm pretty sure i got a reaction out of him so that's so that's probably got to do something. Good i mean it seems like you would want to build a brick wall by that door this storming out of and then keep keep them in. That's interesting you so you think that. What my kids are doing inside the house of some sort of metaphor right. That's kind of what you're saying you're saying that maybe the kids in my house building the bricks because maybe they want me to stay inside the house. They miss me. I guess i'm gonna have to say. I don't know i love that now that because that makes me feel like i'm making a difference 'cause now if you had just had an answer i would have gone. Well i guess he's in charge now but because we kind of agree. We don't know i i feel content. Actually look at that. You were able to just in the course of one conversation. This shows the real power of mentorship and big brothers and stuff you were able to take gray from being a sad person who got rejected from this reality tv show that he went on to just try to introduce people to profound loving jesus christ and and you already just got him from being a sad disappointed guy too and now he's basically he's like one of you he he could mentor people now. Well how how. I i just want to back up her second. I don't think i was actually sad and disappointed. Actually what i was was right in mad. And that's a big different. Because you know i'm just not going to lend my time entry in brand to a show that doesn't really really know what they're talking about when it comes to christ jesus specifically so i just want to point out. I never really get sad. it's mostly just. I'm right in that anyway. Let let me just say. Actually i think what we just discovered right here. Something very important. Which is that. I think what you have discovered which is as you learn from this short lived experience on this show you you left. Maybe they wanted you gone. Maybe you wanted to be going whatever it was but you guys left separate part of ways but now look you've learned your emboldened you're tough you feel strong. I think i'm doing that for the many many many many kids that storm out of my office and don't want my guidance. You know i. I think that is very similar thing so you do have an office. That's good one room at the library. If there's no one there and you set up in their everyone is your office. Technically be just because you have so much stuff in there i mean. I'm sure we have space. Have you ever thought about doing it at the church. And i just don't want to overstep you know. I know how i look. I know how i come off. I've always got some new affect tation. I'm working with. And all that. And i think that in the event because i will say people storm out of the office a lot of the time they do. I wouldn't want them to associate that with the church so to me i go. We'll go to this neutral ground. This place where. No one really goes. We'll go to the library was stay here. And then they'll storm out of there. Maybe they'll go to the church. That's a good idea. Yeah yeah you definitely don't want to see people storming out of the church that never happened. I don't think i've ever met anybody. Leave a leverage angry impossible. And i just want to ask you. Because you're the expert. Matt you know as an adult mentor of adults You know would you say in your expert opinion. That i'm sad and disappointed is different from mad and right now i would. I would say that mad and right is better because it builds more of a a nothing can touch it kind of embryo mad right and it's done it's ready to go and nothing can penetrate good. It's sort of like you protect yourself in like a turtle. Shell of being correct innings. Yes exactly but it but it all has to come first from those experiences of rejection in doubt. And whatever happened to you on that show. Because i don't know about. I mean personally if i got the chance of being on a reality show well. I don't know i don't know i. I frankly i don't know but that would be to me. I don't know that could be a hell of a time i. I'm sorry that it went so short. Thanks so much. And i now you know i'm really working through and i think i've i've got some great perspective now. I just realized you know. I was cheated. They were wrong. And i probably wasn't voted off as much as it was. You know. it's all just fixed in post as they say that something we say in the industry that part of it and so they probably just changed it impose so we'll have to see when it comes out again. I'm saying maybe by the end it turns out that you won because the only thing that we know for sure in any given moment is that whatever were thinking can't be right because everyone else that there are probably thinking all these other things and so all that comes together and you're just one set of eyes looking at it. You probably wrong so if you think you got kicked off of there and then you lost i would say almost certainly you one well. I just think that's such a great idea. And i feel like i've learned so much being exposed to such an expert meant adult mentor of adults in because honestly matt Every reality show narrows people down in the last ones there win. I mean if they flipped it where it turns out in the end that the person who left i was the actual winner. Now that's what we call the twist. But i also just want to circle back to you saying that mad and right is correct. I just feel so comforted by those words as a believer. Because if i'm very honest with you. I get so mad and angry all the time about how right i am. I hear what the democrats say and this new president who's trying to just like open up the borders and let anyone go to a hospital. I get so mad. Because i know that the gospels right so when you think about the gospel of jesus christ the good news that our sins have been covered by the redemptive nature of his blood on the cross and that the god of the universe required a blood sacrifice so that we could be atoned for these horrible sins that we have been committing these terrible atrocities throughout the decades of our lives. We just cape disappointing. A perfect heavenly father and it just really makes me so mad. 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FH Mini 21  Stuey Goes to Hollywood

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FH Mini 21 Stuey Goes to Hollywood

"Hey there and welcome to another flop house. Many a shorter off week. Episode of a podcast. That's normally about watching bad movies and talking about it but on these minis we just talk about whatever the fuck. I'm your host or wellington and joining me are my co hosts. Dan mccoy and elliott kayla. And hey guys. Do you like my vocal fry me. Does that burger come with side of you know in In england they call it vocal chair rates. That's cool that's for sure guys times have been little bit tough for everybody for well a lot of reasons at least for me. We're gonna focus on me though me is that it's all about me today and that's why we have this time studio so you can. This is your time. You know that you're paying for it just unload you know. We had a new year's eve and new year's day and now the day where we focus on stu and day i. I got a text from my therapist. He's like hey aren't you. Aren't you coming in today. You have an appointment. I'm like oh no. I'm doing a podcast therapy today. And your therapist podcast. You must be super cool. I'm like yeah. We have covered this before. It's not that big part of my life because that's a big part of their be. They're telling your your charge a therapist. Patient or client is known as they are cool so tough as i said smiling through the tears. Luckily the podcast going okay. But i don't know if you guys know this but my my other career in addition to being podcast is i own a couple of bars and the barb is hitter hit a rocky patch lately Not a lot of people going out and you know you're gonna bring the booze to them with those drowns now. You just laugh. The slab on lana drown sending over. We are breaking several interstate commerce laws so and international going overseas annum slapping slapping cameras on those journals. So i can get as much bound footage as possible footage per se. I guess the drone's crash would if he picks up a ghost or a blair witch. I found it and then he walked over. The dronut picked it up using his feet when he walked footage. So for people. Who aren't familiar with you know. I'm giving everybody a peak of our private lives. Some people might not be familiar with us for some folks for some listeners. This might be their first episode. In which case turn it off. Go listen to different one. Listen to the one where. I talk about war hammer But what the shows like. I just want basically what i'm trying to say is that of the three of us. I'm the only one who is at a working tv writer. So i thought why not we make it. All three of us are tv writers. Why not make it. Indeed you've got that writers ear talk my two year old. Who says things like. Yeah i did do did that. So introducing just my my two year old. Who all time. I'll be like do you want cookie. A do want that cookie. What you don't want it. No i do and it's like have you don't need to use so many words to say yes. I mean they do. Do your children get frustrated with being interrupted all the time or do you just reserve that shit for me. Dan oh no no. It's it's a real. It's a real come up. I am constantly interrupted by them so we like introduce a new segment here on the flop house. Many and it is called stewart. Hollywood addison colon apotheosis as a metal album so so guys clearly. I love movies. I love cinema. But i also have a deep sharp understanding four television as you guys might remember on a previous episode. I created the perfect description of all television. The perfect balance for any tv show is cop and not a cop. So the best way for me to get a high paying hollywood job now that i have already figured out the secret to hollywood is to realize that's really more of a movie. Well so you're not a cop like every tv show and you got like say castle the yet cop. And then paperback mystery writer. I guess they were one show at the peak television of six shows. What about bones do one of them's a cop and the other one's bones. I think and the other one's a skeleton that show on girls lena dunham is a cop in her friends. The scarecrow and mrs king. That's a spy not a spy but it's basically the same thing moonlighting. He's not a detective. But you really have your your finger on the pulse. Dan of what's going on with tv these days. It is a classic formula. Now which one was hardcastle in which one was mccormick time in which one simon. So i know what i assume. Jake was the cop since the fatman. Could not pass the physical. Oh you would be surprised. That was a show that i got very excited about to watch a kid. It seemed like an adult program. And when i stayed up late to watch it i felt like i was being an adult so i figured now you guys once again. I'm turning to you guys. You guys are the professionals in this business. I'm assuming the best way to get a high paying. Hollywood gig elliott. I'm looking to you for this on. The best way is to pitch a hit. Tv show just like take. It hit tv show and pichit straightforward. And that's how you get the job you mean tak- show that's already a hit and pitch it again or pitcher show. That becomes a hit. Well we'll see so. I've been watching a lot of cobra kai lately and i don't know if you guys are familiar. It's hot tv show. That takes my movie from the nineteen eighty s karate. Kid people have a lot of nostalgia. For and then they create a sequel. That comes out a sequel to the story. That's kind of like a modern take on it. In this case it adds a new perspective where we have like johnny who was previously the villain set many years later and the the previous villains actually an unlikely hero and it kinda updates the whole thing and i feel like that is with that in mind stewart. Hollywood addison is going to take it up to the next level and you guys are gonna help me with some of these pitches. How does that sound schenken without interrupting me a million times. Let's see. I can't promise you that i ll say this. I will say not joking. That is a very good strategy. If you can find a previously existing piece of ip that has stalled name value and you find a new take on it that you can show a fire adapted to a show then yes that is a good way to get into professional television writing now to get the meetings to pitch. This show is going to take a number of more steps. But we'll get leader. Hit us with these pitches. Gives these so. I feel like a natural progression so i'm mainly thinking about movies that i remember watching a lot as a kid. Since i'm you know already super familiar with it i have a memory steel trap so the first one to go go with that i think is that i associate is very similar in some ways to karate kid is back to the future and this is an easy one because an easy to us on it is instead of worrying about that marty. Mic fly guy. Let's find out what if is all about right here. We have been these old man he senses that. There's something kind of wrong with his life something wrong with the universe. Things aren't quite how they should be. He should be on top. Not this mardi mic fly clown so due to something that will work out in time travels through. He finds travel through time and space to try and make things right or wrong depending on your perspective and finally get what's his so. What do you think guys we can bring all. How hard do you think this'll be. I feel like the whole cast is still alive right. Dan jump on. Imdb you've got to find out the whole cast is still alive all cast in only works with the whole cast and crispin glover going to be hard to get but let's bring him in you know I feel like crispin. Glover be down when he hears that. This is a fresh new. Take on the material i mean. Let's let's gloss over the fact that the star michael j. fox has has retired for health related reasons. And just going with the premise. Other than that it is a. That is a solid solid at a patient premise. So here's wanting to tell you is biff. The biff we see at the end of the first movie. Who has waxing. George medflies car. Because he's just you know he can't. He's a loser now. He's visited by the council of cross time. Beefs that's right. I'm stealing from the avengers. Because the future to introduce the concept of alternate dimensions there is an alternate world. Where biff is the president mayor of wherever they live. Whatever know he's basically trump but just in that one town and they've decided that this is not cutting it and he's got to figure out a way to get back on top or else they're going to revoke his gift card which basically means killing him erasing his existence or something like that. It's it's eerie. How similar that is a rick. And morty episodes pitching a rick. And morty episode another way to get a hot hollywood gig out of match it's true it is. I had a conversation with another entertainment professional recently. Where i was like well. Rick and morty is dispatched the future but they're mean to each other and the guy was like wait what now. He had not realized it had not put together. That's great we'll see here's my Gloss on this though. I do think that you're gonna get you're not gonna get past the fact that Let's call him. Biff prime is a is a sex to redeem that character. So the thing about back to the future is everyone in back to the future is just clones of their parents except for crispin glover and lee top like either clones or leaps a- generation or like in weird cases Leah thompson who is not part of the fly line. The great great grandmother in the old west still looks like leah thompson so about much like star wars. It's about The bloodlines of these families. So what if There's a biff further down the line on the bloodline who is maybe a nicer biff. Who realizes that You know he. His anger is that not only has marty Ruined prime's life. But the entire Biff family has has now been destroyed. Here's where i'm going to. Here's where i'm going to try to try to not. Yes and do dan. So i'm gonna say one. This is the age of the anti hero so that bad boy may means that he assaulted leah thompson at the pride. Joe this road allie. He's look if we that one of the hottest tv shows of the golden age of television. The one about a mobster who kills all the people closest to him the one about an hour man who becomes a drug dealer and kills all the people closest to him and the one about an ad man who just cannot keep his dig in his pants and it's just line his head off for sure for reality we can Sell a show about a horrible person but for the fun of latham ups i was just trying to steer his the so lousy then is the series is not about biff. Trying to get back on top. Now forget that biff discovers that all of mardi mic flies bouncing around in ten in time has really worked and damaged the space time continuum. Am i drawing on another marvel. Comic storyline es. I am the tron crossover not the movie and so he's an unlikely hero because he's a bad guy but he's his only chance to turn over. A new leaf. Redeem himself is to fix the space time continuum because this guy is has been planned. The universe like it's a electric guitar at prom and so he's got a he's not the man he's not the right man for the job but he's a man who has to do the job to the future coming to apple tv probably or how about this. What if scott back gala leaps into a bunch. A shit ton of beefs like biff has been fucking up. You know like whether it's grandpa if or or biff. They've been fucking up your generation so scott back back. Allegedly you know like leaps through like four or five biff. it's a limited series on. Hbo mrs positive and right at the beginning that that quantum leap and back to the future take place in the same universe makes a lot of sense to me if you forgot that those are two different things but they crossover between existing properties isn't going to be profitable elliott. You're keeping your take your eyes off the prize which is to get stewart. A job know exactly. I'm just saying it's twice as much. Ip that you're going to have to get the rights to and that's again. This is just for fun so throw whatever you want and their throat. Drastic park in their handlers list. And they're they're all spielberg's movies to throw him in there all the robertson matheson spielberg movies. I want to throw in one thing ready player. That is ready. Yeah you're i mean you're basically just describing the t shirts that keep getting pitched to me on instagram and facebook. So i got a whole bunch of these to get through. So i'm going to move to the next one and to help me with this one. I'm going to need help from another pitch man. My my favorite pitch man. I know charlene wellington. Come on down. I guys let me let me set you up here. So this one we're going to do We're gonna do a little sequel or prequel. I don't exactly know he has in mind here for now. Stewart charlene is your daughter. This is how you flatter women pretty good. I mean. I guess i do have. I do have to be ring light so our skin. It's really great. So great. And i apologize. I should not have been so misogynist with my compliments. Alternately could work the other way charlene. Is this your son stewart. I mean based on most of my behavior interest. You can guess that. So this this going to be a sequel prequel or something related to one of my favorite movies growing up a better off dead better off dead my favorite christmas movie better off dead the story of the paper boy so the paper boy is all grown up. He's got a successful business. Nothing fancy maybe like a landscaping business lane is the villain because yeah because he's rich he's got he can afford put his girlfriend's face on every one of his hangers and not like now he had to get those printed. It's not like now where you just printed on your computer like. He had to take these photos. Get the film developed. Go to the photo. Matt get them all printed and have them put on all the hangers and this guy. I mean. i don't know if you've ever had a paper route but you have to pay in advance for the papers. Yes yes i did it. We've seen newsies. We know works just refuses to pay two dollars and no tip ridiculous so muscles anyway. Lane lane is the villain and it's like all the paper boys they're all grown up and i think maybe they have like a successful landscaping business and all the kids in the neighborhood worked for them but there are also in competition with like the rich guys. Kids right okay. If you following me. Yeah i'm kind of. I'm kind of not sure why he's still mad about the two dollars at this point if it easily accessible mad. He's moved on he's moved on. He's a successful landscaper. But now like the neighborhood. Kids work for him. You know the less fortunate less rich kids and the kids of the skiers. They're like in competition. They hate each other turns. Only good things seem to happen. Yes but entourage but for payment narrated. Kind of like those rudolph. The reindeer movies by the hamburger in van. Inhale and sound like voice narrated it. Which was breakthrough kid to or is it just all the characters have no. I just have one page of notes. Booger bugger has like a store or something. And he's just fine. He's doing fine reclusive who her mom at a nursing home as a show about people growing up and having respectable middle class. No one's no one's wealthy. Everyone's doing fine. There's the wealthy kids and and the working class kids and they're at odds. Okay i i don't think they do karate though. This sounds like this pitch. Sounds like the polar opposite of the real housewives franchise 'cause nobody's wealthy and there's no taurama i mean you could. You could go to the riverdale route with this and it would be all about the sexy children of the better off dead crew. I don't know that you wanna to say sexy children. Okay children in the sense that i am. The child of my parents elliott. Just someone's going to make a sound soundboard where you press the button saying sexy children and you don't want that and now i've said it. So now they can make that onboard for me and all the kids hang out at the porkies hamburger joint It's called pork speech. I mean it's a real. It's a real slice of life story. This feels like this is a you know it's it's I wonder if this is maybe more of a breaking away. Show you know i think. Instead of fighting they have song and dance offs. Just break into song okay. Everybody wants songs and dances. So that was. That's our pitch for better off dead. Everybody s a nice business. Everybody's doing okay. But not great answers songs and dancing right out of the place being home. Okay yeah i mean right now though i think people want people have a real thirst for a show. That's mostly just pleasant. I mean that's what everyone wants in quarry times mary playlists. But nobody's dying. I mean shits creek has ended right. So there's really there's real room for like a show that just makes you feel just makes he'll warm. It'll be a while before we get some new tad lasso. Fill that niche. Yeah i don't have apple plus so the next one. I got a thing. This is a this is a one percenter. Gripe i got in the mail that was like for a word season. Here's your viewing code for apple. Plus for your consideration. I was like oh great. I'll finally get to watch that. Ted lassou show and then it was just for their original movies so i can watch that tom. Hanks world war two navy movies. Like great thanks. I wanted to your dad. That is right up your alley. I did. I did say i did say when when my wife and i looked at it i i did This is solid dad. Stuff noon i wonder. I wonder how many epilepsy has on that thing he's wearing. Don't let let me pause the movie here just to talk about the tonnage that that shift could carry in those in those types of waters It's not writing enough macho man to the top rope cover. We've got a new champion. We're here with macho man randy savage after his big win to become the new champion. What are you gonna do now match. Listen to the newest episode of the fights podcast. Who tells more about this podcast. It's the podcast power to sweet to be sour funky like a monkey whoop discussions man and jokes about wrestlers. Fashion choices myself excluded. We can't wait to listen. Neither can find it saturdays on maximum fun so i think this is talking about epaulettes tonnage. I think it's a perfect time. I take a little break from from all this. I know everybody's worked up. Listen all my pitches. By the way i forgot to say this right up front but fucking. Tm do nobody can steal shit. This is mine. All based on pre existing materials and other. God dear god do not do not not give charlene credit. Let me tell you okay. So we're going to do a quick word from our sponsors. That's who keeps the lights on here at the flop house. And it's the flop. Has that keeps the lights on in my life This word is the sponsor from for today's episode is squarespace. Squarespace is a way to make a beautiful website. You can turn your cool idea to a brand new website blog or publish content. You can sell stuff. You can sell services of all kinds of like screenwriting help. 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And when you're ready to launch us the offer code flop f. l. opi to save ten percent off your first purchase of a website or a not so easy. Is it mr wellington. Have here you caught me you you create a little petard my sending me the of this show doing other stuff and then directly that was entrapment. That was that reference to read this and then at the last minute we decided it made more sense for students. Or if he was in the driver's he would know he got. Where the natural break is. I feel like dan. A friend would say i'm prepared. Why don't you just tell me to go. And then i'll and then. I'll do it and then throwing us to the wolves. The space will. I'm trying to be helpful. Squarespace building it beautiful. That used to be their logo. That's not the square with the openness of outerspace. Okay guys we're back and you guys are helping me put together. My tv pitches into some kind of what resume. I don't know. I don't know your friend mus so welcome back to stewart. Hollywood ing ten colon apotheosis. The next the next property that i think is ripe. For a sequel is a little movie called coming to america releasing a sequel. Is it a tv show. It's a movie that they're doing for amazon or netflix. A home streaming. So wait a minute. Wouldn't it make a lot of sense if they released a tv show at the same time to kind like tie it all together Does it ties together. We'll be fine so the premise here is. It is set in modern day for many years after the original movie came out which i did not do the research to find out the exact release date. She's the hero of the show. Is darryl jenks the heir to the soul glow. Fortune played by. Eric lasalle So it's years later. His life is in tatters. His fortune has dried up as soul glow out of style. He's haunted radically because as you seen from the movie. So glow does not dry out leaves the hair with kind of a witch sheen all the time. I thought that would be a fun choice of words by me. And he's also like enjoying pronouncing words. Yeah he's he's he's also like haunted by the robbery that he was fa- a he wasn't able to stop that he had to rely on keen to to stop from the robbery. At mcdowell's jackson generally role. Maybe samuel jackson shows back up. We'll find out however he finds out that there's one way for that. Soul glows suddenly become very popular in one place in the world. That's right monday. So the only way for him to build his fortune back to go back and began a coup against king. Yeah so yeah. i think i haven't watched. Is there a trailer out. I haven't watched the trailer. No this coming to america. Is i think just about eddie murphy. Son is now looking for a for a bride. I think what it's about. It's not a dark side of the sun kind of mercenaries in africa. Overthrowing maybe a son he didn't know about well. I'm not. I'm not sure about this. But i think that my so now. Three different say different from the from the porno version coming in america which was not not as big a success. It rarely is right. Yeah that's true. The porno is usually is rarely as successful than the original. I'd have to compare the numbers that have to pull up the spreadsheet. I mean i probably return on investment. They're pretty close. But percentage is proportionally. The budgets are much smaller than the advertising budgets. You have to assume are much smaller. I almost never see like a subway advertisement for porno almost never at subway. The restaurant which is weird agreement they made. I feel like a lot of subway. Advertisements have been. I don't know like makeshift turned into porno advertisements. Skirl genitalia and everything from That's a fair point. But i it's right. You never hear people say like did you know so. And so that that famous was actually based on a non a non porn movie. It just not a thing you hear maybe just in circles. I travelling you know. Yeah i mean. Sometimes i see somebody mentioned on read it and i'm like oh cool up vote but you know so we move. We're moving onto the next. Property is the next one. I'm going to i'm going to. We didn't really help you with i apologize. We sounds like perfect. The next one we're gonna we're gonna use is cocoon that's right. We are going to follow this story. Obviously i'm going to continue the tradition tradition. I'm gonna. I'm gonna get any of the the theme of kind of modernizing it and so we're gonna follow the poor guy who had to clean the pools at the retirement. That's right to deal with all that pod gunk. And all the old person using in whatever and steve gutenberg jr. Is we still make sense. Because there's that weird pull sex. Yes as soon as those old people were feeling young. They they were just making the most editor pull. Yeah it's right there okay. Yeah you're already and you're already like your your trunks or whatever. What i guess you found a fountain of youth pool. Why not have sex in it. Yeah so imagine. This poor guy is managed to find one of those pod things and he decides to use it and open up a little. Bnb with magical spring in it. Maybe his daughter daughter along maybe a friend. Who's a chef. Maybe he's looking for love but never really finds it is this is this is this has turned into gilmore girls. Then his daughter gets caught up in like a similar pod situation on the whole cycle just continues over. I guess. I mean. I guess if you're going to you know if you're going to steal you might as well steal from the best right. Cocoon gilmore. girls doesn't get any better to entertainments. Okay so man. It's you guys in provided very few notes on these really reason when the library of congress buried that time capsule for the year ten thousand that all they put in it was a dvd of cocoon and complete set of gilmore girls. And that was it guaranteed entertainment. I think you're welcome future. Catechal for laurel iowa. Okay so another movie that. I think that. I watch a lot of the kid. There's more show. I didn't know you were following the comedy rule of eighteen. So of course. I think the movie then make a perfect. Tv show following this formula is goonies. That's right we're going to follow the fatalities. They're out of prison. They teamed up with the rich jerks to try and take over the town. Maybe while they're searching around they find a second pirate ship. Maybe that ship is crewed by a bunch of ghost pirates. Maybe those ghost pirates ghost until they find the last piece of curse gold now the for tellies rocked by the existence of an afterlife boosted so that raises the possibility that maybe they can bring mama for tele back to life using magic so our heroes travel around the globe siegen forbidden knowledge and getting into sexy adventures. Give you a big meal right so take your time with it so they leave. The guti sound pretty fairly early in the pilot. It sounds like you know. I i do want to bat. We're sort of gangster three stooges antics. Now here's my pitch for season. The seasonal on our it starts with them at the captain's of this ghost pirate ship. And then it's like you're probably wondering how we got into this. The rest of the season is them finding stuff in the last episode. They finally find that ghost pirate ship. Yeah it's like them you know figuring out what What their role is in the town now in like mourning their mother and then having to you know eventually they find clues to what the pirate other pirate ship under the town in the caverns. Fuck it we can have more pirate ships who cares each pirate ship just has would be pirate ship. Yeah it would be silly if there was only two jess. You're right you're right. It would be unbelievable. Unbelievable unrealistic one makes makes sense. Okay a single pirate ship that makes sense but to. That's like no. There's gotta be way more feels coincidence. But if there's seven of them it's like okay. This is just a place for pirate ship scale. Yeah you could be like sort of like a wear in. The world is carmen. Sandiego of like trying to find these pirate ships and it'd be like waste like a game show will know yes trotting adventure where it's like. Where's the next pirate ship could be anywhere like well. No i think it's number one is probably on the water. So let's cut out everything that's not on the water Not the first pirate ship. They found in a cave. I wasn't it was more like open water. But there's water in the water in the cave. that's true adventure shoot. He's the star of the show mark. So is the show called slot. Is it called the for tallies. I mean sloth in the fertility well never tallies makes them most. Anyway it's a sitcom about a about a wacky italian family you know it starts a being sloth and the parents called happy days fonzie. How people used to call happy days. Just funds ear. People used to call alfalfa. 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BCBC - Podcast - S3EP010 - Trystan Angel Reese - Gender Identity and Pregnancy

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BCBC - Podcast - S3EP010 - Trystan Angel Reese - Gender Identity and Pregnancy

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How are you. Doing pretty darn good monkey. You know, it's always fun to be on here with you and crazy and fun. Not next to the Cal prods this time when you go crazy and start throwing crap cross my house. Again, I do not throw stuff across your house and and none of us has been crapping. It's been really nice stuff actually. Contradicting yourself already. Okay. You know what? I do welcome this month is all about the gender identity and gender transitions, and we're having a really great time talking to a lot of people, and the person we have on next is tristen injuries. Now, tristen is thirty. Five was assigned female birth, and by his late teens, he, he knew he was transgender and had to be, you know, and he transitioned to mail around. What about fifteen years ago in is early twenties. In about eight years ago, he met biff again and they in love and later married and adopted two children. We're going to explore some really interesting things about Tristan and and Tristan's life and find out how tristen is managing Chuck children and all these things, but we're gonna get into some of those also. Excellent. But what else you want to say there. Madam was going to say, if you're interested interesting story and a lot of divert about there's a show called the accidental parents which will get into later next month during their parenting month. Tristan's also gonna be with us again, talking about his journey, parenting, and his thoughts on raising his own kids because he has a whole barnyard full of zone children under state. And before we started view tristen actually had to lock himself in garage to to sequester. And so for the from the kids, he said that they're amazing getting into places that you never want them to mosques. Seeing them go through the attic doing that whole mission, impossible to get Danny. Makes the curious as to what barnyard animals children are, but you know, that's not keep talking about Tristan what's bring him on with him. Talk about himself. All right, Christon. Welcome to the show. Hey, thank you so much for having me. Absolutely. We're excited to have you we, we know a little bit about you, but before we get started, this is one thing that we always like to ask our guests. Can you tell us your gender pronoun preferences? Sure. I use he and his band has and I'm going to start off the questions here. So as I mentioned or topic, this is gender identity and transitions and a four here more about you. Can you tell us what your gender identity is today? Sure. I am a transgender man. Wonderful. Can you explain to people who may or may not be aware of what that means? What that means? Yeah, Sali's. So as you alluded to in the introduction, I was assigned female at birth, which is a fancy or modern way of saying, I was born girl. We don't say that anymore, but if people have really not delved into the world of gender, people, transgender issues that's like a just a super basic way of explaining it. I had a normal girlhood. I guess I have two sisters. I have parents who are actually just hit their fifty s wedding anniversary. So they are straight people still gather. And you know, I had a pretty liberated childhood in general. My mom is a feminist I wasn't sort of forced to wear any particular kind of closer pick up any particular kind of hobbies. So why didn't really feel a huge sense of gender. For ya until pretty much teen years and sort of as puberty progressed. And and my body started to change, I felt more and more uncomfortable with it. And in fact, when I was in high school, I started to do feeder and that is when I, I was exposed to really gay culture and gay people. And the joke for a long time when I was in high school like, oh, you know, I'm a gay man and woman potty and for years. That's right. And and really as I approached adulthood, I like sinking feeling that like, oh, no, this isn't a joke at all. This is real. This is this is actually true. I really am again and traps in a woman's body, and I didn't have any words for that other than those or and it really wasn't until I was around one year so that I started to understand, oh, being transgender is insane there. There is word for this thing that I have felt was wrong with me, and that was really great news because awesome things just Lucien to this problem that I could change my body. I could transition. I could feel comfortable in confidence, and there was an end to this. This feeling that that that was broken or the, you know it was something profoundly wrong with me. Yeah, that's a little bit about my journey. And so I started when you have to go to therapists and you have to be diagnosed with gender identity disorder, which I did. Did and was, and then you get referred to a doctor. Then they give you a prescription towards SaaS Dostram. So I transitioned hormonal. Yeah, I like, you know, fifteen years ago or so the beard many years to grow. But now I look like every other gay dude in Portland, no way of knowing that I was tying male at birth. Yeah, exactly. So that's a great summary of your journey. But is there anything else about tristen that you'd like everybody to know. I mean, lots. I mean, I think I'm interesting everyone thinks they're interesting. My spend. I mean, I work in the nonprofit movement. I've, I've spent my entire adult career working on JET issues, and I got sort of put all of that work to the test over the past couple of years as I've been the public spotlight telling my pretty unique journey to parenthood in places like CNN and people magazine and Washington Post. So it's been, it's been crazy adventure. Something that you you hit early on. That is interesting to me is you know, you talked a little bit about your transition in your identifying has transgendering your teams. Can you raucous through a little bit how you came to that? Liz -ation and maybe how your family and friends reacted because maybe you're you're a little bit older so you might have a different experience. Some kids do today. I think it was very different. I mean, truly, I had seen transgender women on, you know, whatever talk talk shows like Jerry Springer. That's how old I am. For me. That's that's very far removed from my experience I was. I could see them. I also I also, I think recognize, oh, they're not being treated well in this context, but it never occurred to me that in fact, we share something in common and and I don't even think I met a transgender person until I was maybe eighteen or nineteen and went away to college and was at a party and and meta trans person for the first time ever. And I was like, oh my God. There that I am not the only person. I mean there are other people who've had this experience who you know are grownups and mature and have what seems to be like happy functional lives. And that was like an that was an incredible breakthrough from me, but it was still a couple of years after that until I was really able to piece everything together, put all the words to it and sort of figure out what my medical journey was going to be. In addition, Nies social journey. So speaking of social journey and of course you're free not to answer how did your family accept your sisters and parents that their little girl was now a little boy for not so little? Yeah, bouncing baby twenty year old. That's right. I mean, honestly, probably being transgender was like the least worrisome thing about me as a rebellious. Parents. But you know, I can say that my Canadian as I, you know, as as I know you are as well Li, and so they don't have, I guess, really rigid like or fundamentalist views about gender identity. But even so as sort of progressive and accepting they are generally the, especially my mother had a really hard year journey and I think you know it was rooted in a lot of things a big thing for her. Was she released again, sort of as strong competent feminist woman. She was concerned it somehow she had conveyed to me that I could do and be all the things I wanted, unless it was a man who well, so she really felt that it was a failure on her part to teach me that. No, no, no. I can like I could be CEO if I wanted, or I could be an after what whatever the things I wanted to do. I could be a doctor, a lawyer, and I didn't have to be a man. Do those. Things. She was like, oh my God, I, I have failed to contain that to you. And so it was a long time before it was able to really help her piece part. Okay. But like who you are different than what you do and it's not at all about what I wanna do. It's it's inherently about who I am and that was really hard. It's really hard for me to coach to that because I was on my own journey to, you know, growing up in a world that that teaches you, that gender is rigid. It is. It is defined. It is binary and anyone who goes against those norms is bad or wrong, or even worse is, is disposable. I, I had to grapple with all of that stuff on my own. It was hard for me as a young adult to also coach her through this feeling of grief and loss that maybe failed as a parent in some way that you know that she was losing losing a daughter while also gaining us on. I can only imagine she. Not think it was funny when I put it to her that way. Don't think of it as gaining the son that she not laugh in the way that I was hoping, but not nearly as fun sometimes because daughter to mothers, you get to print and yeah, and and sons make masses. And but I think the again, she didn't. She was not a printer. You know what I mean? Yeah, a person she, she plays tennis. She fixes the plumbing you. She runs my dad's business. She's just like a hard core woman. And so it was just really confusing to her. And then I think you know, one day at sounds weird, but she was like Goya off another one of her rants about why this is hard for her to deal with and she's like, oh, I had to others hours wanted to do the same thing them, but never wanted to be like them and never wanted to be boy. I just looked and I said, mom, this is not about you. Yeah, I don't know why, but for some reason, niece thing, it's that way. Just like the light bulb went on. Do you know what I mean? And she's just completely was like, oh my God. You are. Different person that I have. We are separate people. I think the hardest thing for any parents to ever understand their kids are not them on that. 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I don't know what you think I'm wearing. It's absolutely nothing at all. The problem. Okay. So now I'm feeling your heat through the law. Fantastic. You're listening to our an episode with Kristen tristen and the whole month on gender identity and gender transition. So let's get tristen. You need the decision to not go through surgical changes to your by. You've been noted to say that you love your body and considered it a blessing. Can you talk to us a bit about your pass to body positively, something we're really out and acceptance as you transitioned, and you know, with maintaining some of those parts that may be considered female. Yeah. I mean, it was a rocky road. I would love to be able to pretend that I like came out as trans and automatically when wave like sometime I just want her writing crop and made me super excited to have a body that's different than like all the dudes around me, but it did not happen that way. I sort of honestly, and it was, you know, it was a journey. It was really hard to identify as a man and to appear to the rest of the world is a woman that was really difficult. I've also I'm also exclusively attracted to men. I've only ever been interested in and romantic and it's with men. So that was confusing to, obviously I did not want to date straight men because they really, you know, wanna be with the woman and I knew on the inside I was not a woman, but then game. Then we're also equally uninterested in being with me because I didn't look like a man. And so I really was stuck in that sort of catch twenty two for a while. And then I transitioned. And then I was in a whole new are a category where I did look like other men and my body parts for different than most men have. And so then I had to navigate a whole new realm of dealing with my body and intimacy. And I have to say, you know, while I did have some challenges, I was pretty constantly surprised by how open and interested, particularly gay men were in something that was new and different. First of all, I mean, like there's so much by his ability and I basically would not have had a romantic life if it weren't for out by men and even closeted by men when it comes to that. Sure. But but gay men as well. I was just really surprised by how many people were like. Oh, cool. Yeah, that's not anything I know anything about would. Would you teach me? And I'm like, yes, yes, that's. That's great. It's actually a little different. From a, I have several friends who are trans men and interested only in men, and I have to say you're was much smoother than many of their as they pack spear, and some violence and very bad reactions from gay men who are. Visibly upset by the parts not matching what they were expecting. Yeah, really early on how to survive. So this is like the days of a lot of like internet dating eventually apps. And so I was very, very clear way before I ever met someone face to face, hey, here's what's going on with me. And that way, if they were interested, they could duck out and I wouldn't have to deal with that rejection face to face. So I was never in in an in case where I had to tell someone's face to face by the way I'm trans ever. I mean, like I came out as trans, probably the year that boys don't cry came out. So that idea of violence being a reality was something that I had sort of baked into my DNA as part of the coming out process. I also, I think learned how to sort of market myself as fans guys super early on what words to use so that people like you can't use jargon even if you say transgender man, a lot of gay men are going to assume that you're trend. Wonder woman and assigned male at birth and want to be living as eventually plan to live full-time as a woman. You can't use any of those words. You just have to say really clearly, hey, here's what's going on with me. And then of course, I'm white and white privilege plays into a lot of my story. And I also, you know, look, I o for many years I looked like a twin. Maybe I'm twenty now because I'm. But you know, people had an assumption about what sorts of intimate relationships they wanted to have with me, and those things were not off the table just because I'm trans, whereas and think that I'm like some big, you know, hulking like manly man that you want to ravage, you cool like that's not. I don't wanna do that number one, but then number two, I don't often have the body parts of people imagine you'll need for that. So a lot of reasons why I had a positive experience, some of which were in my control and which weren't. Yeah. So you met your life partner and now husband this several years ago. Can you talk a little bit about the story of how that happened? And if all's. Yeah. Well, I mean the truth is I didn't really have a problem finding people that go on dates with and hang out with. But in terms of like finding like a person June, I mean, like capital like a capital p. like to to really fall in love with and and get to know a longer to bases that just hadn't been happening and it had. Happened for several years, which was a real bummer to the point where I thought maybe I was giving up on that, and I didn't know trans people who were in love who had settled down who had families. So I really thought it wasn't in the cards for me. And then like truly one day kind of after I'd stop looking out of the blue came, you know, this person who was gorgeous. The most beautiful man. I have ever seen smart and funny and so emotionally intelligent as to make me feel like I was literally in motion toddler. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Lutely. Finding all life partner a true partners, real challenge for any of us. I think really is it really is. And that age twenty seven, which in you know, gay years is still fifteen. I. The. Just make a little side point on on the comment and partners. I think that we have this romance book idea that you know if you're gonna have a partnership that it's completely equal time, and I think that's, I'll call bullshit. There's I'm in your partnership that you're the stronger your the, you get to be vulnerable. You're sick it, it's, you know, if you look at the old fashioned marriage vows, it's and sickness and announce. It's not just when it's going good. It's when it's going hard, and when you have to challenge it, and I think it's a balancing act of who gets to be strong today and who knows more about what and can take the lead on those things. And that's, that's always me so well, seeing relationship out of them. Not really. But you know, I like to say that. Say early on in our relationship fully in the first few months, we had an incident where I had had a root canal, which you know is terrible. And I was living in LA and I was lost which socks and getting lost is one of those things. You know, you have those things where like for some reason they happen and then you are just like so upset like irrationally upset so fast. And so that was me and getting lost. And he had called me to ask about dinner or something. I kinda snapped them on to him on the phone a little bit like, well, I don't know what the dinner plan is all talk to you tonight, whatever. And I got to his house and he sat me down. He was like, so you snapped need a day. And I was like, yeah, I was frustrated. I was lost and I root canal, and he was like, okay, you never get to be mean to me ever. And if that happens again, we are done and I was just like only God, first of all, this is the sexiest thing that's ever happened to me because what is sexier than someone telling you like that they have a boundary. That they have a certain expectations for how well you're going to tweet them. Awesome. Awesome. They're not gonna. They're not gonna deal with your shit. Oh my God. I was just like, no problem. I am so sorry. It will never happen again. You're right. I do have a problem with losing my cool and an actually gonna find a way from me that and I put myself in therapy to figure out how I can better manage my emotions. That was to me. That's like the sexiest, but my entire life. That's great that you have that connection. You have that realization. You have somebody who's going to call you on your shit and be able to help you as well pushing the right direction. So I, I wanna bring us back around to another question here. Did you in, you know, talk about your relationship biff. Did you this face any challenges or discrimination because of your gender transition within the Queen gay communities? Yeah. Well, you know, I transitioned long before he and I met, so he never knew me as any different than you know, I am now and you know, we lived in LA. We've lived in New York and we lived in Portland's as a family. So like all like pretty pretty progressive bastions. And I don't think that we really have a lot of we have any friends who would say something negative or something negative about us being together. I know that he had some of his some friends who are sort of like, so do you guys have straight sex? And he's. Like look at us fusing literally, anything we do is straight exactly. So I know what they were asking, and he knew to find a way to navigate that while also letting them know that the the whole framing of question was, was weird. Generally, you know, we, we are surrounded by people who show us love and acceptance, and I think both the best made released decisions in the past about who are romantically end just, you know, on engaged with. And so we've tried to make smart choices now. So we've been really lucky. I think when our story went public last year, we had some people in the gay community or pretty confused. You know, he's a gay man. He'd actually never seen naked female body before the first time we were ever intimate. I believe that before like when he knew like, oh, I think we're going to have you know that we're going to have sex. I think he was actually like googling anatomy. I imagine that might have been a little strange if he was a gold star. Yes, very strange. And he really was concerned that he was. He. I don't know why, but something about the fact that there are two places down there, things to go. Comes out and went out of he remarried around. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know, but he figured it out. I'm hoping at this point you guys have figured out a few things. It's been a few years. It's been eight years, eight years of wedded, marital bliss. I never thought even even Nagas with someone. He was someone only someone that just sounded horrible to me in my twenties. You know what I mean? No, we're both Polly. You know, then you know the the, the idea of that sort of situation of being tied to one person. It sounded horrible to me, and then I met him and I was like, oh, sometimes you really might meet the person that like does check all the boxes, not every time not for everyone, not at every part in your life, but for us, I'm just like, oh, well, cool. The reason that I was open to poly-amorous or you know nontraditional romantic situations was because I figured like not everyone's gonna check out about. I randomly. The did. So I was like, well, this is never have to go on another. I dated. Well, you know, I have to say, monkey naira post paulie, but we both in relationships for for very long time. I've got an eight year para partners and a three year partner, and you just celebrated what you're twenty. Twentieth monkey ninth year together. Twenty four th year of marriage. Yeah, so, but let's let's pit it. We know that you in this, we're in a position a couple years ago to adopt his sister's children. We'll talk to you next month about parenting, so we're not really going to Scott that side of it, but what did bringing children into your family have any sort of impact on your gender or sexual identity? Because oftentimes, I know parents consider themselves neutered after having children. Oh my God. That sounds terrible. No, I mean, we were really lucky. We did become parents overnight, not even overnight. It was the same day. We got a phone call that his, you know, sisters kids. Going to get taken away from her and put into foster care, and could they come live with us instead? And so we said, yes, of course, of course, we were really lucky, you know, our community rallied around us and part of that rallying was babysitting too, you know, so that we could get some sanity and parent coaching to help us through the trauma that the kids have been through and schwinn up on our doorstep with food. But also mentors, you know, older people who have been parenting for years who really talked to us about connected as a couple. 'cause if you ain't good, the family a good. And so we worked really hard to retain our romantic connection or internet connection throughout all of that. And it wasn't always perfect, of course, especially since this is more of the frontline parent and I work fulltime. And so there are definitely times when I'm more interested in our romantic connection than he has capacity for. So you're back out a lot smaller the what you're bad, probably got a lot smaller because kids want to crawl in with you and noble and no, no one, no, no. It's a trap. In the very beginning. I remember, you know, Riley, our son with times wanna crawl in the bed with us, and, and you know this just that align. And he said, no, that this basis for us that is for us. So he would always give him a big hug and he would carry them back to bed and he'd singing the song in his own bed until he went back to sleep, and then he'd come back to even if it meant three or four times a night until they were really trained. No, no, no, this is my space is my bad now that they're older of course, will do sleepovers or whatever. But that was part of us retaining. Our romantic connection was this spent is for us. This is growing up time. That was an awesome boundary. We've done is fantastic, wonderful boundary that you're setting expectations. It works for us. I don't wanna like shame anybody else and other things, but for us, it was really important. I now especially having like parenting friends who are like the kid won't leave the bed. We haven't had sex in six months. I'm like, okay. All right. I am. Gratified about our decision to have the kids in our bed. It's the same, you know? Yeah. So anyways, don't feel okay about. Well, we're gonna take another quick break, but when we come back, we're the talk a little bit more about children. Pregnancy and a couple of other subjects. Anything you want Adly now? I think we're ready to just pay a little more Ammash tar sponsors the Amodu again, we'll be right back after this. Hey, guys, good vibrations. They are one of the longest female owned and operated stores online and in brick and mortar out there, you need to check him out, good vibes dot com. All the toys, all the loops, everything you would need for some really good sex. If you're in San Francisco, check him out downtown. They are a fantastic store and also go to their little vibration vibrator museum man, tastic. Welcome back to the BCC podcast with tristen angel race were so thrilled to have him on her month of gender identity and gender transitions, or as I like to say the gender journey. So tristen you have to kids and you status things there, and then he decided to become pregnant and have a child of your own with this, you are really, really open about the whole process. You documented on your website. It's your social media through interviews. Can you tell us a little bit about why it was really important for you to be that open. Yeah, you know, initially we had wanted to be quiet about the whole process and you know the reality is, is that hundreds of transgender men. So men just like me who were assigned at birth and now like have beers and everything like hundreds of us have given birth to babies over the past, at least eighteen years. So this is not at all. Like, I'm not the first person. I'm not the fifth person. I'm not one hundred person. I might be in the south per person. The the date is pretty shaky, but everyone largely has done it quietly, you know, except for Thomas easy, eleven years ago. And that's what we had wanted to do as well for for safety's sake. But the the more we really thought about it. The more we looked at the bravery of open gender women of color, like Janet mock Laverne Cox Genentech with yet as Gina Rosero. They're out there as trans women of color, sharing their stories. Taking the heat, you know, writing books, giving interviews dealing with all of these basic questions about their bodies. And here I am a gay white man who passes as not being tramp living in Portland, Oregon, with all the comfort and safety that that offers was supportive parents and you know, an amazing partner. It started to actually feel, I don't know like unethical to not be public about it. I felt like we had a chance to tell our story and to start to expand the conversation around what it means to be trans, some people, yes. Do wish that they weren't trans one of transition and then just live lives. You know where no one knows or or you know, wish that they had been born more traditionally in the gender that they transitioned to fine, but not all of us are like that. And I'm one of those people. I feel okay about my body. My body can do something really cool that other men's bodies can't. And that is. Have a BB and we're gay couple that can do something that other gay couples can't, which is to have a kid on our own on our own terms. And I don't know. I thought that was a really cool story. And I thought that that that idea that that LGBT people that trans people that we are liberated, we can do all the same things as anybody else we shouldn't have to be constricted by the norms of, you know what women are supposed to do at men are supposed to do. I don't. That would be a really cool story. And so I sat down with this and I think we, I think we should tell our story publicly and and so we did so in what we thought was a super controlled way that maybe just a few hundred people would hear it. Luck with that. Welcome to the internet. Yeah. There is nothing out there that if people wanna see it, no, and our story just totally blew up overnight and then we had to deal with. Yeah, we had to deal with me being pregnant man, and people still come up to me all the time all the God. You're the pregnant man? Yup. That was me a lady yesterday and started crying, and she was just like, you have no idea how much hope you have given young people, young clear people in America, you being public with your story. So as totally ricocheted around in ways that I never never expected and was wholly unprepared for. Yeah, can imagine being the pregnant man, you know, how did pregnancy you know affect your your gender identity? You know it's so weird to everyone ask that question, but I'm part of like a whole underground support system upend gentlemen who've had babies. So for years now, the idea of pregnancy and the idea of gender have been pretty separate. I know lots of men who had babies, yes, mostly, it's thing that women do totally, but also like my friend, Liam had a baby. My friend Lee had a baby. You know, anyways, I have my friend, Jason Jackson, my I have so many friends who are man who had babies that it doesn't at all anymore. Seem to me that something that is only for women. So when it happened to me, I didn't have as much of that feeling of omega God. This is the thing that women do am I now, so really man, I truly just felt like a dude who happened to be pregnant. To make an an actual active decision to get pregnant. You had to go off for moans. You had to. To take significant steps. You couldn't just accidentally get pregnant. Yeah. Well, you know. So as long as you're taking your testosterone, the way that you're supposed to in exactly the right. Those is every month like you're supposed to? Yes, it totally stops ovulation. And so I did have to very consciously stop taking it and we discussed it and we look at our finances. We did it very intentionally and I went to a doctor just to make sure that you know everything was in good working order in there. I also quite a bit at the medical data because I wanted to make sure I wasn't taking a risk with my body and with you know, this potential future baby's body a really wanted to make sure that I was being being sparked and safe. So yeah, it wasn't. I did very intentionally, and it was super weird. Like being pregnant is really weird that this is like growing human being inside of your torso. You know what I mean? It's strange. So that part was strange, but also cool justifying of it. I'm kinda geek about those things was pretty question because this is kind of interesting because you were on hormones for testosterone for quite a while, and then you have got advice and stepped off. So you know, going for therapy to have a baby and then back on what sorts of researcher resources did you use to make that decision? I know you talked to your doctor, you know what sort of risks also are there to you when your baby, you know, with the more hormone shifts? Yeah. So as long as you stop taking the testosterone and wait three to five, normal, then stroll cycles, your outcomes are absolutely identical to anybody else who gets baby. Clo- testosterone is not that different from any hormonal, hormonal, birth control that stops ovulation same thing. You can take it for years and years and years. You stop taking it. The uterus is bad ass kicked back into gear. And it's like, cool, ready. This kid. He's really. There's a ton of data now that really shows, you know, pure peer reviewed research that shows no matter how long you testosterone. If you go off at, if you wait, then you're going to be this everyone else. Then of course, that doesn't mean that everything for you. Lots of people have PC OS. Lots of people get just babies, you know what we will get it at the same weights as anybody else pregnant high risk phenomena. It really is. You know there. There's now this sort of renewed obsession with with treating pregnancy as is not a high risks on and it and it really is. But before we had western medicine, the the rates of of people, you know, having extreme injuries and even deaths during childbirth were very high. And I was very aware of that. And so so I was very comfortable in the medical community in my process to make sure that I am urged relatively unscathed as did my baby and and my mother told me that my female. Ancestors rollover in their graves. If I did. Pain relief during the labor labor and delivery process. Sure. So I bet you got a lot of questions from people during the pregnancy and after the worst of your mazing little darling and adoption of that, but what questions do you wish you an ask that you weren't. Guys. It's so funny. I spend all of my literally all of my energy. Thinking about the questions I did ask that I hate and that are so invasive and and and unnecessary. I don't know. I guess. I guess for me a question that I wished that someone asked me was what kind of a world you hope Leo grows up in what kind of impact you hope he'll be able to have on the world when people ask, why do I want to have a baby? What they are actually asking is why do you as a transgender person that you deserve to be a parent? But what I wish they were asking was, you know why? What kind of impact you want your child to have. And I think that's what every parents should be asking themselves. And that's what I ask myself every day is I, I worked to create and shape him into a human being as much power as any of us have over our kids, which probably very little. But yeah, I think that's, that's the question I wish that people would about Smith's. Absolutely. So let's talk to somebody out there who's listening in right now. Somebody who might be considering following long path or maybe the younger you, you know, what would you offer yourself in the past or this in individual as wisdom? You know, things that you know now things you wish you had known earlier in the journey of going through pregnancy. Oh. I mean, the presidency itself. I would say the biggest piece of advice and I don't. I'll just do. The caveat of advice is weird 'cause it implies it's in how I know something that other people don't. So I'll just put out there. I don't know more than anybody else. And hopefully this'll be useful to someone which is just remember that as easy as it is to think about the people who are negative because that's the way that our brains are set up, find your allies. And it is easy for trans person to know our allies because we know right away. You can feel it. The person that checks you in at the OB GYN clinic that refers to pregnant people instead of pregnant women that refuse refers to non just patient parents. Instead of husbands, you will find those people who are excited that you're there who are thrilled to stand up for you and just hand with you and are also superstar about what what you repor. Event in terms of an evolution of how we think about parenting and and who can be a parent and what does it mean to be a dad? And what does it mean to be a mom find those people and put them to work. They will be thrilled to help you. If you say, listen, I'm going to the labor class next week. Would you mind we out to the teacher of that class and giving them a tutorial on, you know, transfer Tilleke and prepping them to welcome me and my partner under class. I don't wanna have to do that. I'm going human being, you know, reach out to your friends online and say, hey, I need help shutting down some negative comments on my post. Would you mind leading in blocking people for me, don't take on the burden of work is not yours to take on. Find those allies put them to work. They wanna help, but that's what I'll tell me more than anything like, what can I do? So the more that you can give them things to do, not only are you protecting yourself and giving yourself space and time and energy that you need to grow up. Person, but you're also empowering them and giving them the satisfaction and knowledge that they're making the world a better place for you. And for everyone else that comes after you. We do have a quick follow up so you know, what do you have known or what was the best information you had? You know, getting about the Jimmy from pregnant fatherhood and coming off the hormonal shifts and all that. I mean, I think I was pretty well prepared. I, you know, because I had so many amazing mentors what already been to the process so new, the coming off, hormones sucks. Anyone who's ever been to puberty, and then one has ever been to puberty pregnancy or menopause can tell you, hormones suck. They fill of you are as a human being. I knew that pregnancy like is amazing. In some ways. It's so cool just to let go to the process to feel the kicking or the first hiccups to be able to sing to the baby and fill them like slowdown. And here you like it's so amazing also at sucks so bad for all intents and purposes, like there's a parasite in your body that's literally feeding off of you and taking. Babies are parasites. It's true, although they are not. Most people usually use when they call when they described him, but there truly a parasite they are and and the last three to the last two weeks of my pregnancy. The baby was literally too big for my body. So I had ribs separation how well your cheat look, narrow person. I am narrow. And when I gave birth to Leo, he was nine pounds, six ounces, holy mother. Jamie, which I told you because he was split Seraing my ribs from my start uninspired. It was so painful, but I knew it was going to be painful. It was more people that I've ever imagined. That happens. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I would say like I did. I was one hundred percent unprepared for the joy of a newborn like the entire first year. I basically thought I'm gonna give us this baby. That's the gift giving my family, I will hand the baby off to this. He will take care of the baby till they can talk, then I will tap in. I did not think that I think he's whatsoever. And then I work out that way. Not at all. I'm like, holy shit. A baby is magic. It's been more joy, more fun, more laughing and giggling, and telling jokes and playing peekaboo like he is so funny, I, it's, it's just been more more fun than they do as an average require parenting skill. Oh, but the thing is that about three months old when he was strong enough to hold himself up sitting on my lap, he played peekaboo back. He would put his head down in his lap and pop it up at want me to say peekaboo and then laughed and I'm like, oh my God. I just, I just had no idea how interested fun and smarts babies could be. And so that's the thing that I just was completely not prepared for. It's been a total blast. That's awesome. Well, we're gonna take another quick break and pay Omar. Mostly because unlike makes monkey laugh. And when we come back, we wanna talk to you little bit more about the relationship you have with your body and that journey of acceptance. So we'll be right back after this. There do you know about midtown moxie in downtown Sacramento, first Saturday of every month. You get to the music singing, burlesque, entertainment, comedy, and well boobs. So you need to check them out right now, mid town, moxi dot com for tickets and information. Welcome back to the brand chicken Brancaccio I am your host. Well, one of your host to my right and your left is the Madam Madam. How are you. Brilliantly well and enjoying our conversation with tristen. Yeah, I've been learning a lot from. Interesting. Thank you just it's been enlightening. The fact that there are so many men out there that are exploring having children and getting pregnant, so that was something that was enlightening to me. So yeah, and actually, one thing that's funny is that randomly in twenty fourteen the country of Australia, sorta tracking genders of people who gave birth in hospitals, and I don't think they meant to do it. It was just kind of fluke what I mean, like a census thing. Fifty four people who are legally male that year alone in the country of Australia gave birth fifty four. Wow. Those are interesting numbers. Yeah, we're gonna take a switch though, because we'll talk to you again next month about parenting and those sorts of things. I know I read a recent log. Post from you that you mentioned you absolutely hate being make it, and that's a very personal thing. But can you tell us a little bit about why. No. So funny. I didn't know that I was gonna really pick up on that. Yeah, I, it's not that I don't love my body, but I do understand recognize that it's very different from other bodies. So like I don't go to new beaches even have this weird thing where, like, you know, like I'll be changing with the kids at the community pool and we'll be in like the family bathroom and because their kids, they'll get on their swimsuit. And even though I'm still changing and half naked, they're like open the door and like one Aleve. I freak out or like changing my clothes upstairs in our house. I like have to have the blinds closed and biff is like Duda cares like a, nobody's looking be if they're looking, they deserve to see someone like it because, you know, you know, it's if they're gonna be upset by that. It's their fault for looking at somebody else's window, but I'm just like, yeah, cool. The world is not designed for trans people and trans bodies, and I'm just tear. Defied of people seeing my body, not knowing what the hell is going on and making a huge deal. And there are lots and lots and lots of instances of people being in gendered spaces or otherwise, having our bodies be policed violated and even injured to the point of death. And so that is just something that I am keenly aware of. And that has led me to just like, never just never wanna be naked anywhere even though I wish I could. Spent a lot of time in twenty seventeen talking about your relationship with your body this, and you discuss that, you know, there's this relationship that is complicated with between you and your body can. Can you discuss that a little bit? Yeah. I mean, it is. It's complicated. I think everyone's is in in some ways. It's sort of like you know about is amazing. It created life. It's, you know, I'm able to run and swim and dance and play with my kids and do all kinds of mazing things with my body and as many, many, many, trans people that kind of joke that were like all. We all have a bunch of tattoos, but that's a process of reclamation. It's a process of feeling comfortable with your body on your own terms and asserted power over it and saying, okay, I was given about that didn't have control over so I can make youthful in some ways that I, you know, in some ways I want to, I don't know that any. Of us truly have control over our bodies as much as we'd like to pretend do. So I can definitely resonate with the complicated relationship thing. My body never does what I wanted to know. Jeez, and you know not to be like TMI, but my body is brought me a lot of pleasure. I am not one of those trans people who is so uncomfortable with my body that I'm not able to take pleasure from it. I really can. And, and I have a lot of gratitude for that. But on the flip side, it has it is really hard. You know, there were a lot of years of, you know, trying to find people who would be intimate with knee and getting rejections, and in even hearing online, somebody saying that that who I am is is disgusting or gross or that I'm a monster or any of those things. Those things are really, really hard, and I dealt with that when I first came out, I dealt with that when I was trying to navigate dating the world of gay men. And then I was again. When I was public with my pregnancy and so those things do come up and there are times still when you know, I'm barest to say, I have to go to this for some application. I have to go to him and say, you don't, you know, you don't think I'm a monster. Do you and reading all these comments where people are saying how disgusting I am and I looked like a circus freak, or you know any of the things they've said like, you don't believe that do you. And it's really embarrassing to be thirty five years old. I do have been with somebody for eight years into still have that nagging feeling that maybe somehow something's going to sink in. That's gonna make him see me differently and not be, you know, not being love with the anymore. And that's something I deal with, you know, every single day and that you know. So that is that is hard. And this really complicated speaking complicated and hard owning. You know, we all want to own ourselves in your beautiful example of that taking ownership of your body and making changes where you feel best expresses you. So. So you've also decided to go forward with the surgery to modify your body. Is that correct? Yeah, yeah. That's something I've, it's been a long journey and I never wanted to have top surgery because on it really need to. I've always been super skinny. I've always been able to sort of like ride that thin line between just like, oh man, boobs and like, oh, that's a trend or man who has an top surgery, but having given birth to Leo my body did change quite during the pregnancy. I'm still holding onto about twenty pounds of quote, unquote baby weight, which I've decided to keep 'cause I enjoy having a, but and also I like being able to wear men's clothes before, like finding twenty nine waist pants like been hard. Now I'm like solid thirty thirty one cool like and we're close now. But I'll donate a few pounds to you if you want. I been, I've listened. I really hope that I would transition become a there. I've always really loved the bear community. I feel like a spiritually affinity with their community on the I I don't know that your body would support being there. I tried. I, you know, I had hopes I thought I would transition and everyone kept saying like, oh, wait till you hit thirty and I hit thirty and I was like, cool. Yeah, I'm gonna travel. Gonna slow down. Get Harry. I'm gonna tell the all the bears are gonna understand that and actually one of them, but it never happened. I continue to be skinny and hairless. Oh yes. So now that my body is changed, I really have hit that point. I'm thirty five, which is by no means I'm not trying to say that I'm old or anything like that. But I am at that point where I'm like, okay, what do I want the second half of my life to be and what are the things that I have said no to or not yet to what are the things were? I have been worried about my own sense of agency and in terms of top surgery, a big part of it was I'm embarrassed. I'm embarrassed to to engage in a procedure that listen, I'm not gonna die. If I don't have it, my family is going. Gonna have to take care of me if it's going to have to pick up, pick up all the slack. It's gonna cost on money, insurance cover a huge portion of the cost. I feel selfish doing it, and and so I was really, I think, saying no on behalf of other people in my life. And so I just down with a k. I really want to have top sir. Agree. I don't think there's going to be a time when I'm going to be like, oh, why did I do that? So early on, I think the opposite was going to happen. I see myself being forty, fifty sixty seventy and being like, why didn't I do this earlier? Well, so yeah, congratulations on on taking ownership of what you need. I think if people we often have a hard time doing that. It's so hard. It's so hard Yeah. During our break, you mentioned that there was a pivotal moment in the journey transition and in the journey of your relationship with your body. Can you share a little bit about that story? Yeah, you know, early on in my transition when I was definitely like looking like dude, but definitely not owning might trans Ness yet. I was out at a bar at a club in New York City, and I was pretty sure that sort of like throw lots of things that gay men get to do that like you don't get to do as a twins, gender, gay man. And one of those things is a one night stand. So my experience. Been that like, okay, meet someone. I like I tell them, I'm transgender. They have to kind of like go home and think about that. They have to make even like sit down with their therapist and be like, hey, what would it mean to be a relationship with a gay man or even hook up with a gay man who is transgender? My still gay, you know, they have to go to a whole process so that kinda made peace with that and make peace with the reality that it was just always going to be a burden to be trans. And then I was out at a club one night and I met this very attractive. British doctor who is like in town for a conference in New York City, and he has that accent, you know, and for me, I have like several sort of types that I am attracted to and like a super tall, gangly guy. I don't know why to me. I'm just like that area sexy and I was him and he had a British accent, and he was a doctor. Just, oh my God, and this is obviously long before biff. And so he's buying me drinks and we're learning up, and he mentioned that he's saying a hotel that's very close to this club where we are, and I was like, oh my God. He's gonna. Ask me to go to the hotel with him, and I'm going to have to say no, and I have to figure out, am I going to tell them why? How am I going to let them down? And I was just sort of having a panicked moment and then it happened and it was late and the bar was close and he was like, oh, you know, will you come back to my hotel room with me? I would really, really like that. And I said, you know, I would love to, but I'm transgender. And he was like, oh, what does that mean? And I was like, well, I was born, you know, I was born a girl and I still have all the girl parts. And he said, oh, is that all? And I was like, yes. Yes, that is it that that is it, and he was like, oh, great. Well, let's go then any pay the Bill and we went back to his hotel and we had a really amazing penthouse ignite where he was super stoked, like I was new in different, and I realized that actually, who I am being different is not a burden at all. It's a blessing and if I treat it that way and roll it out that way, not that I have cancer, but hey, there's something really cool indifferent about me. That's going to give you a unique experience that you wouldn't have otherwise had. People are way more likely to be stoked in excited. And so I'm, I've totally lost contact with him. That was true. When they stand, we parted ways on great terms had an amazing time, and I've always kept that experience in my heart that a lot of people are gonna think, you know, is that all and the excited very. Able to see the person inside of you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's nice. It'd be seen be seen and not be not get have the hangups thrown in there. Yeah, that was that's nice and hot I guess that helps super. Super hot. You know, Joe putting present with somebody and yeah. Yeah, yeah. So let's talk a little bit about. Do you have any like events coming up that you would like to remote because I know you and biff or active and available for appearances in such. Where can people find you too? Yeah. Well, there's I'm on Instagram, throwing it down for the family. Lots of baby pictures there, and I keep everybody up to date where biff end I and his name is best b. I f f and I think thing on Facebook and actually worked for the family of quality council. So I get to help people were national LGBT nonprofit that helps advocate for eligible families and helps pave the way for prospective parents who want to who want to build families. So I do have with them all the time. I'm going to be in LA in August. I think I'm coming to Atlanta in October or November. We're going to see about that. Yeah, I do. I do panels and workshops all over the country. People can definitely hire me to come and. Tell my story out there, their conference or university. That's really love doing. Yeah. So they can stay stay tuned for events that are already happening, or you know, work with us to create a fun event to to spread this message of of what it means to be trans and America today to build families and to really see something that's possible where other people to see only barriers. Yeah. Well, I have the most difficult question that we ask of everybody. We talk to. Okay. So you may have heard that we consider ourselves to be the sexiest Barnard on the internet. Somebody actually pointed out to me that we're the only Barnard the internet, but we're still the sexiest dumb it. We have residents and guests are badgers, catch shaped Shifter's dragons unicorns pigs bears and all the things. What animal would you be in our barnyard? Why? Okay. Mine's an aspirational, one. Okay. So can ever. I'm having a tough moment and for me are frenetic moments where I have so many things going on at once that I'm really starting to stress out and make that choices make bad decisions. I'll say. So for me, my aspirational animal is this loss. I know people love slots and. Closys in that you may expect, which is they are slow, liberate, thoughtful animals. And so I think, how can I down in the Slough. He's a lot along came. Oh, that's good. One thing you may not know about us loss is that they are their own ecosystems. So the moves so slowly that it uses almost zero energy with that. That it eats from a tree. And then actually when they poop, they are fertilizing the tree that they eat from. So they only take what they need and they give back what they take well to work on that side. So we always just think about as much as I'm taking from the people around me. Am I giving back to them as much as I'm taking the way that this law does? And if I am not, then how do I slow down so that I'm reserving enough energies for the people in my life who are giving me so much so that I'm giving back to them. So that's why aspirational. -i I am. That's really inspiring. And I like that. So as you heard me squeeze all over the place, so. Very happy with. Yes. I'm so do you have any final thoughts to take away? You know, take away messages for listening today. Anything you want to share a little point of light that you'd like to put out there? I hear a lot from ten gender man around the country who are thinking about having babies. We're experiencing a lot of discrimination and harassment, and I would just say whoever you are go, where the love is. Do not spend your time focused on the people who are the naysayers as much as you have the freedom to either on the internet, go where there's positively and love and light, and you realize go where there's positively and love and life, or even like as much as you're able to have the freedom and the financial stability, like get up and move go where the love is, because there is so much love in the world. You don't have a second to waste on people who aren't going to treat you as a beautiful. Perfect. 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Tomato Tomato (with MildaMay)

American Idiots Abroad

29:15 min | 1 year ago

Tomato Tomato (with MildaMay)

"Hey, baby, so I always confuse this microphone for a camera. I always think we're filming the podcast last episode. I see this all the time a few years back. That was the joke that I am viewers. Yeah. Anyway, hey, I made remarks and I'm Megan selig until And this is America needs a bread mostly two thousand Canadians abroad the podcast are currently listening to because you understand English, but you don't understand this kind of English very well done or because you understand English, but you should understand like this kind of English. I don't understand that kind of English. We're talking right now on this podcast we discover what makes us uniquely American by analyzing the differences and the similarities between the US and the UK with Little Help From a special guest each episode. They're always special. I'm sounds like an insult now, it's not because we always just described them as special With a Little Help from an average change to medium to amazing gas to a moderately exciting guest each episode. Yeah, so I'm from San Jose California shout outs and how very interesting and I first moved to Liverpool roughly five years ago first as a student and now for work, I'm from Boston, Massachusetts. I've been here for almost four years now here is Liverpool and I decided what the listeners know that we're Americans who were brought in case you didn't get it from the title. Yeah. I think they know also first name. View and now I'm also here for work. What a coincidence today's special special special guest she gets three three because she's already been here before and not only that but she literally lives here where we are recording. Today's special guest is none other than Tiddly Bonk build a home. So today's episode is kind of a follow-up a part do if you if you will. I know Megan will I already do do anyway, it's called juice alternates. I guess today's episode is about like you say tomato. I say tomato like that. No, it's not it's not pronunciations. It's like And good episode title just mind in there somewhere. Any type of tomato juice episode is called tomato tomato juice or if you're just reading it tomato tomato Matilda name's okay. So this episode is about You using one word to describe things and me just a j using them no matter what country you're from you're using the opposite of what I'm even saying. Oh God, it's just different song. I just run that joke into the ground. So for example British people say nappies for the same things that Americans would call papers off. Are you saying it sounds like a presentation? I like it like a British people would call nappies. Which called diapers I'm changing it for you Megan. Do we have thoughts on that Beasley diapers nappies diapers. Do you say diaper? Like do you know what it is? But from like American movies and things of them, but you've never seen it but we also have nappy nights here which sank a club night for underage teens and we hold them laughing eyes. Also, they say nappy rash you what? Yeah. Yeah. It's a diaper rash, huh his diaper rash. The thing is robust we gonna do you guys get diaper rashes long as in years. Yeah, cuz I remember when I got my tattoo they were like, oh, yeah, just get some life nappy rash cream or something like that. It was my first year here. So I was like, I'm sorry, you're going to need a go over all of that every every word of that the explaining for me. And I think I had like Google nappy rash cream as I was walking Meghan Googling nappy rash cream why I love the thought of you just being like I kind of diaper rash of the context This I Gotta touch it according to the cream. Oh my goodness. I barely ever heard a British person say douche douche douche really have you ever do birds say douche douche is a device that you clean your funny. Yes, but so that's why you would offer someone a douchebag because you're like, oh, you're just a douchebag. You just go in and clean Fannie's. Yeah, but that would mean is being vagina. Yes all up in that pussy podcast. She knows what that is. Yeah. I don't think she does another example of an alternate is Mom versus month. Is it though is it well that's discussed an example? Well, let's discuss. I feel like that's the pronunciation thing. Well, I'm Southern so I say Mom but a lot of people I know would say Mom. Yeah. Yeah, like yeah interesting. They would write mum they would write mum, but then my friend Lindsey she's from Tamworth, which is near Birmingham and wage people in her area. Say more like how we say and do this and they spend it more as well good for them off my mom. Mom sometimes now, I'll call Mumsy. It's really do I say mama. I love that said sometimes hear English people. Stay home. Mom. So m a m ma'am. I've seen it should all be like Scottish Twitter. Let us know. Yes Twitter page. Skittish water is d m's commercial or adverb adverb I do like but that you can also say that for any kind of AD as well. But commercial is something specifically on T and add is for anything else. Like if you see someone like a poster on a bench that would be an ad would a commercial be something like a consumer Butler as well and like something that you'd consume as a customer know cuz you can they can be commercials for like a climate change. Okay, like awareness and stuff climate change. Yeah, I've had words for everything. Do you say advertisement or advertisement advertisement advertisement? Do you see advertised think like most song? Although I know it said but it's been really I think so. Anyway, I don't know now I'm saying there's am I trying to analyze well that that checks out actually I feel like I've heard more people see it advertised. Heard it's just yeah, it's kind of like privacy pretty like is that like, where's the the stressing? Yeah, it verges or control the C ROM. Oh my gosh. I don't like I don't like controversy. That's my controversy That's Mike driver seat truck out of me finishing it out kind of controversial one or controversial one. So you would say controversy but you would also say contract struggling to think what the other one is what you would you say controversial. Yeah, but you would say controversy know I would say contrasting. Yeah, you can stay here then all right controversial one month that I know making everyone grown now that caught me by surprise at first is cigarette versus Biff on that. Is fagg. Yes. Yeah, which yeah, so so British people will say fag to meet a cigarette. Yeah, a fagg literally a bundle of sticks. So I think that that's how it came about cuz it's like a bundle of cigs. Yeah, which little in fact actually gay people are also just a bundle of sticks off inside every gay person, but I think but it's it's interesting because like maybe Matilda you can have like a month you can have an opinion on this you have an opinion on this. I feel like when people say it here when they say like, oh, do you have a fagg? They don't like there's not the boss. So situation straight away with it or not. Oh, there's no like, but then also I think like the derogatory term for a gay person that that term isn't used here. Yeah. Yep. Use other weird ones bent. Yeah, and then you're like well, so you're either straight or your bench then you're either straight or you're broken. All right, cool off a broken just to spend just that's a pink song and just give me a reason. We're not broken just bent and we can learn to love again, My least favorite favorite song. It makes my blood boil. What about oh, it's just to the Melody home and the thing too much of it or we might get flagged copyright. So you get American saying cigarettes you get British of people saying Biff, although this I've never had before said Bifta. Yeah bister so Biff short for bifter. Okay, so it's interesting because bister means different things in different parts of Britain as well so long In the north AB if orb iftar is just a cigarette butt in the South a before bifter is a spliff. Is he so often in some parts of the South? So our Southern guess goes what I explained to me by Southerners before that. They thought when someone was offering them a bit for a bit after when they first like moved up north they were like, oh, yeah, they they got excited cuz they were like we're going to get stoned nice and then they got handed like a normal sick and were like, oh they're like, this is just normal. So underwhelmed what you talk about sports versus pimples seeing as two-thirds of us are covered in Spotify premium package for those at home. There's a reason why this is not a visual medium and it's up in tracksuit bottoms and Matilda birthday. Have on their faces in a Dalmatian like manner in a very delegation like men just Fingerprints of creams pages are black all over his face. Looks like you got the plague or like I'm like a rotting bread. Black mold is the worst thing for you. Yeah, if you see black mold on bread Bill Killian. Yeah. Oh, yeah, if you see green mold chills. Yeah shit, although you only see you only see about 20% of the mole. That's actually there. Yeah, so that's why when when I'm like another day and people are like does it look fine? I'm like, I don't trust that system was just awful smelling is yeah, but like I also don't trust my nose, you know any way you wanted to talk about spots versus pimple? Yeah. So actually, how did you I felt like we'd only describe someone with acne who is life vir cystic acne right very bad skin. So you would only describe acne as someone who's like really bad. Yeah, and it would need like almost like medical treatment for it would be looking for it. So when we say acne just to describe having a few breakouts. Yeah. Oh that's interesting. Yeah, so I find that like watching YouTube and people saying my acne so bad at 11 a.m. You got full spots. I remember the first time that someone said Spock to me and I was so confused. I like didn't understand what they were talking about. It was just sort of random like next bit of conversation, you know all you're just walking and talking about random shitt and they're talking about spots and I was like what what spots and they're like, you know, like like spots on the spots where like it's about to like go to school like Sky spots like and like I like I didn't know that you had a different word for it. I think it's part of the like cuteness ization of all the British British people just do this and make cute words for everything. That's true. So spot is dressing example. Yeah. I mean I say spot nice a pimple is more cute than Spa really awful kind of both. I maybe it sounds gross pimple. Sounds like like a quaint thing that's on your face. Like I've got a pimple and I like really like a game. Biggest sea Association we have cuz I'm the other way around. I'm like, I'm looking at Megan's nodding ferociously ferocious cuz I think if you're like Oh, I thought my face. It sounds like you're just like being cute about it. Whereas like pimple is like gross but that's probably because I associate the word pimple. Like I've never heard the word pimple not talking about pimples off with spots. I have you know, it's like you kind of spots animation or something, you know what I mean? Okay, and so now we're going to take a little break and while we do you the listeners are going to be able to hear or whatever millimeters unreleased songs. So what do you have for us this time around Zelda? So this one will probably be released either off the second or third release once I start releasing a bunch recorded, right? Yeah as every musician does just in the Vols. Yeah, so selfish only birth Yeah, so this one's going to save some room for me. This is save some room for me by Mel Torme. Let it off any correlation between us and ass off like a donkey. We never caught a donkey an ass. No, no, I wouldn't call a donkey an ass. I just know that it's technically a thing because all the kids used to be I was talking about a Donkey Kong. Exactly. They were like, they never say a swear. I was just talking about a donkey that's allowed rice. When would you ever be talking about you? Say you say ask? Oh no, but you guys also say asked if anyone came from I think that's more of like an American Doctrine though. Yeah, so I can't even say it like badass sounds so much better than bad ass or like kick ass, but ours is just like maybe I'm totally wrong and I just assumed this but like the spelling of it just based on how you say it. I assume I assume it's the same. Yeah, exactly. I don't know but life are saying Kick-Ass sounds like an awful. She cream is way more. I couldn't I can digest that one squirty cream money off. I'm confused. Is that like a brand? What are you going to like? It was whipped cream whipped cream whipped cream is like double cream that you whip. So we don't we skip that step off. That's so weird. So you can go to the coop later today and get a can of scored two cream. Okay, another example is countertop versus work surface. Yeah, so I don't know if work surface is just like one word or whatever but County, kitchen. Yeah, we could I called a counter space counter space. That sounds like a film count on like like next season on counter space would be more like a table that you do like crafting on and off. For me anyway for a work surface laptop book surface. Oh, yeah. I'm confused versus work surface counts, as long as one work surface would be for me more like a tabletop I ask or would be a work surface. Okay, that makes sense. It's like to me I would just say counter. I wouldn't say. Yeah, I would maybe if I'm being really specific but I want to say oh, could you put that on the counter? I take a solid as well. Umm Kitchen Side interest. Is that would that be a specific part of the counter offer? Don't just be like an open space on my kitchen side. So countertop. Yeah interesting. What about cookie sheet vs. Baking Okay cookie. She is way too specific song you make so much more than cookies. Yeah, that's right away. So are you thinking about baking tray? But yeah baking are Americans calling it off. Intrigued me. I'm confused. Wait what? I thought it was Brits that call it a cookie. No, no, no, no, no Americans. Oh I said Thank you travel. No baking tray is British. Wait, so I'm very confused so long. Do you call it? A cookie sheet my mom might or my mom. My my mom might call it a cookie sheet or a cookie tray. Maybe I would love to do a little speed round if you don't mind. Oh, yes so long maybe if I say two words and then you tell us which word you use and then Megan will say two words and tell us what you were to use or whatever cool. All right hallway or corridor. I'm not going to speak each other. I need both both Corridor would be more like in a school and then in a house, I'd say whole way interesting reception or Lobby. Oh, I say you talking of like like a corporation building maybe I I feel like I say reception just because I've been here long enough. Yeah, I'd say at reception in reception receptionist like a year in school. Oh, I've never be the like the the office that you're greeted when you go into a building interesting, but you say Lobby right? I think I think that's the American way, but I think I say both because I've been here so long been versus trash can or even better rubber versus Trash guessing the bed. I said that to my aunt one time. I was like, she she said something ridiculous. I said get in the bath. Don't want to be more like that's rubbish. Yeah, you would say that's rubbish. That's rubbish actually Americans though would say like, that's trash. Yeah. Yeah. So say trash now I'm starting to rub off on you. Yeah. Yeah. I'm still say, can you help me trash out Hoover vs vacuum back to the again. I move around. Yeah. Yeah you would you would you ever need know about humor is and like someone might use it for sure. But Hoover is just like what you do for American wage earners. It's like saying Kleenex for a facial tissue Hoover is the brand they like they're like a very specific looking I can't say I've ever seen a real Hoover. You've never seen them in the face Henry Henry Hoover another example of Brits Q defying things because Hoover's have faces on them. Recess versus break time break time. We would never say Recess Recess is that t show slash movie? That's the only way I would know the word but really man would never use recess. I think it's so funny. Like you guys are like break time in court. Would you say it's taking a recess would you say recess then or would you say break time off just goes and you never been to court. Also, you're not qualified enough to be on this podcast illegal to film courtrooms in the UK, so we wouldn't necessarily know that Interesting interesting so many courtroom illustrators. Oh got it. Let me say but we're not legally allowed to that's fastened. I think that comes into play is because the media influence a court case so much that that can't be an issue in the UK Horrors system. So if there's like a massive high-profile court case if the media could film the statements and prosecution's the media can put out that information much faster than the jury can make a burden so he convinces everyone involved much. Interesting and meanwhile, we have Judge Judy and like paternity court. Yeah. Well, I think we actually have a UK version of Judge Judy but I don't think it's actually yeah, I mean Judge Judy think it's like a real thing. So one that I have bone to pick with is Pickaway anticlockwise versus County job. Likewise and I only have a bone to pick with it because it sounds so negative and why are you anticlockwise off and to his what we'd say really? Cuz I keep saying counterclockwise when we play Catan and you know what I'm talking about. Yeah. I know what you're talking about a Visa with British people understand us then saying counterclockwise or do you only know that because you've been this so much American culture in British culture anyway, but there's not as much British culture in American culture Club on T. Yeah. So even though you speak you speak English. Please do it again this english-language buffer loud. My ear headphones on the front what it is. I'm so sorry Spike this English. It was supposed to be bad. I'm wrong. I thought that was the point. Anyway, it was just so bad that it was it lost your sense of humor football vs. Soccer football. Definitely. So if I'm talking to a British person about do you consciously switch it to football. I'll say like the footy or like I'll be like real specific about it. I'll I'll like so so that they know that I'm not talking about American football the fact that you say the footing that's another thing. It's just like to make everything cute the footy but it wouldn't just leave. Yeah, I would just be funny. I don't know do you go in the Facebook really because I mean it may just James shout-out James Choy. Yeah. Yeah. He's on cash machine versus CashPoint versus ATM. I say ATM, I did say ATM and now I say dead. BTM sample, I don't know Automatic Transition of money out of that trailer machine Auto teller machine automatic transfer of money also works I'd say it's not a cash machine. Yeah, I think we only we only say we should say yeah, we wouldn't we wouldn't we wouldn't say cash machine dram cash machine cash point I'd say cash point probably that seems a little bit more normal. And that wraps up our episode. So thank you so much for 2G. Let's all get the yes, She just throwing another one in there next time on American Idiot Abroad or taxi. You pick you decide you decide and we tell you if you write or not. Anyway, where can people find you find your music so they can lurk your life. My boss Graham is Mel Torme music. I think yes. Yes damn that alliteration for short it's and that's what you'll think when you listen to them. Sweet voice is so good though. Actually. Yeah that reminds me that we did an episode on Megan's birthday last year with mathilde Collin holidays and birthdays you can find that in our feed. You can find all our other episodes from season one in the American Idiot Abroad feed whether you're on Lipson whether you're on Spotify life whether you're on Apple podcast TuneIn Google play Stitcher premium. I don't care. I don't discriminate you can find me at I am solo music. That is Sol a at IM. Ola music yeah, and I have a song out called self-destructing shout-out Arlo Parks because she put self-destructing in her drive home from glass birth playlist for BBC over the weekend. So that's super exciting Parts. If you want to be on the podcast, let us know love you are like casually listening to this like a month now, it's also friends of our low. It's a small small country. So yeah, let us know them are listening slide into our DMS so you can find me at a GM marks official on Instagram and Facebook and Twitter and all the other social platforms. So we played the song Last Time Matilda was on the podcast but because it will probably be the one that's coming out. Next still hasn't been still hasn't been released over a year later, but it's such a good song and so I want to play a little snippet but a different snippet then we play a game. Pastime of the song Just because maybe this will pressure until the to release it and maybe next year. You'll hear another thing eventually will peace all the way down song. down Turn off my Kettle sexism. See what the songs about her down Lubbock.

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Reddit Friend

Sucias are my Favorite

46:27 min | 3 months ago

Reddit Friend

"Check nothing that's better okay. You can hear something right. Let me make an adjustment because you are super loud. My should i scream into the mike already. Have a headache when you first popped on. Whoa that's super loud. Turn it down on my end on our. You're you're fine. I can adjust everything. Here is just The whole adjusting for one thing. Another had it set for facetime yesterday. Okay so yeah every time. I haven't new thing. I need to learn how to set the preset so i have like a zoom getting one a face time one and just solo thing but anyways okay. You've got the visuals worked out. I mean what's happening back. There does studio lights. They're pretty cool. So these are just Led's flat-panel led's so okay Yeah so this is like three or four years probably since the time you actually tested just when i am recording audio record video definitely gonna work record video over here okay so it should record what we're saying here I should do an insurance man. I didn't want no so there's this little icon up here on the right. That didn't stop light. That i didn't see when i was editing. This so whatever you put me poem below my name. That's awesome people like what the fuck is ours. I come on if you're not a at one. Point was japan file or whatever nippon oh file Anyways all right recording. I'm recording geppetto potatoes and societas. I'm that guy you'll welcome to another episode of seuss's are my favorite today. I have a very special guest friend of mine that i made on read. It accidentally xi's sought me out. Here's an interesting little story. i'll let him tell it here in a second my friend in japan. That's american hasn't been here for a long time. I like to welcome you. All to steve. Welcome to thanks for having me on the show coming on like this has been like years in the making because Was it two three years now. Probably yeah so. I didn't well. If i remember correctly we were on fox. News dot com and We were we were going into this. This discussion about What's what's his name. One of the anchors. It was bill o'reilly. That's the one you were defending him. And i was. If i remember correctly we were both pretty active. On the fountain pen sub reddit and high discovered by some form of online stocking that you were also into three. Sp's sd separated and those are two pretty niche. So i was kind of excited to see somebody with that much. Overlap with my own interests right. I think i message with that. Point back north for awhile and i was like i wasn't weird because at the same time it could have been he sorted by new or maybe posted and something that i posted had a lot of votes or whatever so it didn't seem odd because a lot of times i do get messages on ready from comments on. Would you mean my this what you mean by that. So it wasn't out of the ordinary to get one. It was the first time i got one. Oh hey i saw you in this sub in that sub what it kinda blossom into a i guess a nice online friendship which is still kind of rare these days released. I think i haven't done too much of that but You know we both been encouraging to each other in different aspects like you're a systems analyst system sys admin what is it again. Yeah yeah the head of an it department but yeah at the time. I was at or so. Yeah we met there and through our passion on on reddit and all you know we've learned a lot about each other and about just like how early side learned a lot about how things are going on in japan. What are some things you miss from the us in general The way you socialize mean since we're talking about making the way you make friends series quite different so if you wanna make a friend you usually go through a workplace you know. You're you're talking to someone they introduce you to someone or a maybe family introduces you to someone. It's kinda rare that you would just be sitting at a bus stop and you're like hey chatted up her or if if you if you went to like a bar and you just started chatting with someone that's offputting for a lot of people. I mean especially emails. So it's a little bit harder to make friends here. I'll say that's one thing that's gonna miss about the us and there we go sorry ahead. I had a shortcut button to do all this stuff here. But it's not working. So i got to reach for something. What is something that you like. Or that's you find exciting in japan that you didn't think that you didn't expect while you were there over new. I moved exciting I don't think well specifically tokyo. But i don't think there's any place that's as convenient live is tokyo right. I mean anything. You want to buy anything you want to see. You can get there in minimum Walking distance with just a train maybe one train transfer Any kind of major theme park or like production like a concert or sports event. It's all just in reasonable distance. I mean in the us. I'd never lived in a big city. So i never had the luxury of being so close to so many things and water some things that you dislike about japan aside from like making the friends there was something that you wish were more american like the diversity. I guess That we have not a big foreign community. So there's a lot of strong Stereotypes like people are used to. This is our island. This is who we are these other people. They're they're the outsiders who are visiting You don't really have a strong sense of community when you're not a native japanese and how do you get over that since you're married to a japanese woman right yes right. So how did that evolve. Because you like you said it's hard to meet people or women in general and bars and then at the same time how do you. Are you feel more. Japanese now blended in with a married with a japanese wife or do you still feel any yearning to connect to the us or anything in the western civilization general. I think i've pretty well settled down here. we're talking about meeting her. It's actually more interesting than we met because we actually met on my space places. Did you have a mice face account home. I had a my space years ago. My space So i don't know if you've ever come up may be heard on on my podcast or wherever that. I am a sex addict so that was a problem. My first wife is that i would just have his mental also as a young and dumb in my twenties. So i had the mentality that there's no reason for me to not get laid every two or three days so whenever nothing happened for a day or two or just go to bar or go somewhere pick someone up. Pick a girl up and you know eventually four. Five months down the road. She'd find out about something and then wouldn't want to give it up and then it'd be another promising cycle. And so she got on my. She got on my my space account and had to give her the password and everything so she basically sabotaging Any thing have with females. She would do is like she'd flirt with them Some high school girls or whatever or girl at any from high school and she'd flirt with them to the point to either get them to agree to hook up with me and meet up and when they would agree she would tell him well. You know what. I changed my mind. I love my wife if you ever contact me again until your husband. And she didn't screenshots right or the she would try to come on so strong that she would turn off those girls and she would say i'm married. I'm happily married. Leave me alone. So either way sabotage. Not that i knew until after the divorce started talking. Hey what's going like. Oh did i tell you. What are you talking about it. So she sent me screenshots of the conversation like oh that was my wife so whatever. You're just like at the breakfast table one day and she's like oh by the way i've been sabotaging you on my speed. I wasn't that it was after. I was reaching out to these females on on facebook at that time and Don't you remember what you said to me on my space over. Like i haven't talked to you since nineteen ninety whatever right. What are you talking about three months ago or year. Go and this is what you say. Oh that was my wife so we're ex wife so but yeah my space was dangerous injuries as well. But you want able to weren't you even though you're a little kid. I actually skip over. Ill i started. I think on irc and i went to i was on icq. And then after that probably back to irc for a long time and then my space. I remember someone tried to buy my my irc number back in like two thousand four two thousand and three it was it was like a eight hundred thousand number i it was below a million by that time it was like tens of millions of your irc. I see i never. I think you yeah and then i r c is just you know whatever you want your handle but i remember someone paying one of three thousand dollars. If you're willing to pay a thousand someone else will probably pay more. But ever since. I've lost lost email account that was associated with our had. It set up or so if i see is still online right no. I didn't know i thought a autumn out or whoever owned. Okay yeah that's right so i'm you say how did they into pens A friend introduce me at work. We had a new manager come in and he was really into kind of vintage fashion. And just You know period fashion. Like there's the youtube channel gentlemen's gazette. He was. He was big on. That and one of the things was found pants. And a you just just looking across his desk every day and he said oh i just i just got five new house in the mail and then i got five new things the ink and he's just showing me eventually. I just had to take a bite so that was my foot in the door. I didn't even know what they were until he came into the office. I guess then. How did you sorry. How'd you go and fountain pens to drawing or will you thought and finish. Sorry that's I've always been interested in drawing. I've just never really taken the time to develop it as a hobby I had all these fountain pens. And i enjoyed using them. But i've working in it. I don't really write that much. So i thought it makes sense if i use these for something else. So i got into drawing I keep doing it now. Because it's kind of my meditative time. Like i can't a lot of people meditate. I don't really do that. 'cause my mind wanders i can't just focus on nothing or one word for a long time but if i'm if i'm just doodling i can release. I can listen to music. Is i go. So it's kind of an obsession just doodle throughout the day. Yeah and you like at first. I think you're doing one every few days. And now you've got like a couple per day or are you doing that. Many priorities have such a backlog. That you just stagger them as you as you put them out i. I'm doing that many a day. Okay And they're they're not all agree and i'm of doing a warts and all i just whatever i drive. Put it out no matter how bad it sucks It's just my motivation to keep To try to set a certain standard you know. I want to have something that i can say. Hey i worked on this. Maybe it didn't come out as i liked. But i worked on it. Just that kind of forces me to keep improving. I guess your from the first few pictures that you posted especially like portrait's You've come a long way from where you started. And i used to be a portrait kind of artists back in high school tag artists and portraits. But i had. I was lucky. Had a pencil racing mistakes. You're stupid you do. And it's it's yeah. It's amazing that you have that commitment. Because i want to be that perfectionist or get it right or at least i would probably sketch out in pencil and then go over. And and Found pin but Yeah from day one to now you're portraits roller great. You still have an issue. I see that it's always what smiles teeth An drawing them individually. And i think. I give you a hint. One time to connect atif One time i remember that but still i mean overall. It's better than i would be able to do if i started doing. The of course daily practice will get you there and also your shading technique now because you used to do cross hatches and now you kind of do different colors or at least for the background stuff. And it's you know you're still lives are great. They're amazing On for the still is e take pictures and then go off of that or do you kinda watch things and just keep doing. Keep drawing whatever you see. I kind of take things that are interesting from social media primarily. I was going from red. I've just switched over to pinterest Just anything that. I think is interesting. You're like gives me a strong emotional response. i'll just save it in q. And then when i sit down to draw choose something out of the queue that pretty cool that you have something to keep going instead of having to go out and about in public i think early on you were doing like stuff from people you'd see in public like on the on the metro or subway. What do you call it over anyways. Subway yes okay Because england's a two or the underground and then here in the us subway so one of my earliest ones. That was something i took as i was walking about is they were just demolishing this old house with a with a backhoe and i was just standing there admiring all that the activity all feel taking this apart so i just took a picture and had to draw. I guess that was one of my first Things that inspired me to make this a habit. I guess in what keeps you going now. I mean you like you said you had a pinterest of in a queue of pictures of drama. What keeps you going. Is it trying to improve drawing or is it just the love the fountain pens or something different It's trying to improve drying and i try to. I try to improve by doing things that scare me like. I'm not good at mouse. I draw a lot of males or if it glasses. Scare me. So i would. I'm feeling really brave. I try to draw glass. These are probably basic things to real artists. But they're still challenging. The only i think everybody has their own issues. I think my biggest problem back in the day was glasses too. 'cause like do i put the reflection and you put any glare do i- blur out. The is or whatever is behind the glasses as well. So it's like I guess in creative interpretation artists artistic interpretation on how to portray that and more difficult with inc. Because you're just using inc right. I was just going to say. I've been meaning to vast you about vintage so many times i still haven't taken the plunge actually getting one call man. You're you're you're gonna love it. Those crap there was a. There's a cheap one. I think it's like noodle or something. It's a modern pen to has a lot of flex to it. So you can go from a fine will find. S gets more like about a millimeter of versus point. Whatever millimeter but is from about a millimeter. Too good solid five six millimeters. So you have a lot of asian depending on pressure and i prefer those personally the flex ones for For my signature and then my daily is just like a lammi medium gasoline point so you just daily writing or journaling and then signature pin so so you make your way through my space. How did that evolve because how well is. Your japanese was at that point. Do you both beacon japanese. She learn english or is it. Just you know one language household. We've never actually really spoke in english. I've been studying japanese for i. Guess more than half my life at this point so from the get go. It was all japanese. And of course it's gotten better I mean living here. As long as i have just working in a japanese company. It's i mean you get better So the today. If i actually like said something english it would just. It just feels really weird. Like what are we an english lesson now or like. Why are we verse. Excuse i mean. She does speak english pretty well. She actually is taking a standardized english test tomorrow. i don't know we just we've come this way only speaking in japanese. So that's where we're at and so how did that work with relationship because you said you met through my space in it blossom because from from the picture you painted and also from what i understood through media is that you know like you said. Japanese very closed off every bodies in outsider. Agai gin so what convinced or is it. Just the degeneration age that she's younger and more open or was it. You know something else that can mr. Okay let's go out. Let's meet All that involved with youtube getting together i mean. I don't like to stereotype but there's in japan. There's kind of two kinds of girls. There's those who they like. The traditional way life the japanese way life and there are those who actually pursue a foreign boyfriend cut for whatever reason maybe they think the foreign manner more open about their feelings and their opinions. Maybe they have some vision of wanting to move out of japan sunday. I guess she was one of those who was just interested in foreign man. She had had previous foreign boyfriends So i guess it was a lower hurdle for her so she didn't really hesitate to me in person Went out your times and you know got when we. We hit it off in winter. They're coming together so my space would have been two thousand three two thousand eight ish so when you get married. How long been together in. let's say it. Well we've been married since twenty ten. Oh and then biff six month engagement and then I guess about a year of dating before that so it's been a while was a difficult for her parents to accept you in have the if they if it was the except you more now or is it still standoffish. They've been accepting the whole time. They they said listen we. We know you don't have parents here so when you're in japan where your parents oh that's awesome to from from legacy from what i understand And i don't want to focus so much on the whole japan thing but i keep forgetting that like most people that are watching me. You're on the show. See me one dimensional. Like oh you're just a sex addict. But i know other places do other things. I'm not just a pervert. So by all means. I'm but Japan or sex addiction. Whichever way you want to go. But now i remember like talking about random stuff and you'd ask questions and i can't think of anything that you've like asked. Hey will. would you mean by this or what happened there. But is there anything that stands out that. Like in our interactions like. Hey you know this. This was good for me. This was an improvement Whether you learned over me or something. I shared with you or vice versa. Things that i wanted to point out that like okay you know. Thanks to steve. Which always is call you cairo. Zadie say whatever. It's my my my english middle name as like in these characters. So it's kyle in english so it's tight in jeopardy's okay so i do all right today but yeah so. We have that Instagram notion of who you are but Yeah just go ahead is if there's anything that you've learned or that i've shared with you or whatever that you picked up on like okay. Hey you know what. I would have known that without you because like i said i have a couple that i wanted to hear about you if we go back a bit to. Us quite a bit about deafness. And i say that. Just because i learned from canadian people You really stuck to Accomplishing the task of whatever you want us to deploy with it. You know you'd say hey. I have this particular hardware configuration a knife in my mind. It's like oh this. Is this against all odds. This is just gonna crash and burn but you keep tweaking it. You would find some way to get this thing together. You'd be like destroy hopping to find the right for the incantation to keep it online right. I was impressed at how dedicated you were learning a particular skill set or just getting a particular kind of system online. I think most people would have given up before that point. That's something i learned you. Think well because i remember there was one thing that you were. You have the audio thing defile of if that's how it's pronounced but it's a deployment for Basically getting hardwired speakers to receive like wi fi audio but it's a local wifi audio so it's kind of like a local spotify esque with your own speakers right. Yeah and i forget if i turned you onto that or you found it on your own but you know i kept bugging you about that. And that's one that. I ended up giving up on because of the hardware investment on my end that it would. It would take getting all this stuff together but through the years or your hat with more than two years right but do the time that we've known each other You know it it On one hand it bugged me that you had access to computer so early on that you are where you at now and at the same time you know. You're Being renaissance man so to speak in doing your own deployments at home testing testing testing. You're not just using the clock to learn or improve your skills. You also use your own time. Which inspired me to continue doing that. Which is i guess. why so. I guess we fed off each other is and and that's how i like Why i keep in contact with us like okay. It's not just a one sided thing where i'm feeding information or you're just feeding the information it's picking each other's brains and not necessarily making each other better but making each other think a little harder and taking a little extra step further and that's what i've liked the most about you know having getting to know you over these years and you know having the friendship that we have so and i thought you just followed me for my good looks for the first time i've seen your face i don't think i don't get your face posted anywhere other than maybe you did a self portrait that your was your profile picture for a while and i think he did have a picture on your profile that i just never paid attention to in the beginning or maybe someone else had like little scruffy beard. Yeah that was beheaded scruffy beard. And i just did it like it was like okay. Just never gone on me or never put the things. Getting course. you can't like zoom in on a profile picture you see this little dot and my eyesight isn't twenty twenty anymore so Yeah but any case yet. It's finally nice to put a face to the words all the texts. But one other thing i have not something i've learned so much. That's been a constant interest About you for me. Is you your interest in the digital nomad lifestyle like you talk about being mobile Like vander car with all your. It needs in close. Like i've i've never really had the opportunity to do that. And it's kind of hard to do when you have when you're raising kids so i mean just following like your ideas for that has been interesting over the years. I guess we haven't talked about it in a while. So it's kinda on the wayside just because like camera angles and viewing in. You know you see. I see this much on the camera. I kinda shrunk it so we can both fit on here but the the whole camera angle here To be able to see well it. It wouldn't work so much in a van. So then i'd have to be outdoors and walking around and doing stuff so i'm like do i really want to invest in more batteries and more gear to make things easier to be in and out of the van and i liked the studio. So i've i still had the dream of the van life at the same time it's like this is using convenient so i'm getting lazy in my old age which i need to get out of that habit but if we can keep you have hopefully you can keep me on my toes like a live vicariously through me and i thank you. You get to live the dream and japan and you know i've been meaning to travel there for over twenty years so when he's come visit you it's a it's a different world for sure and i mean coming here there's obviously culture shock but then like when i when i do go back to visit. It's culture shock again. Because i'm so to how things go here and You said before that you're you're kinda stuck there. You set your roots there. At what point did you decide. You know what. I'm just going to stay in japan. You know your wife but was ever a time that you considered maybe not the us but somewhere in between maybe europe or somewhere else asia or the deciding factor. Okay we're staying in. Japan happened pretty early. That i made that decision. 'cause i was actually an exchange student in high school and so i came over here and then within like the first month i was like wow. This is a great place to live like. I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna graduate and then come back here to live. And that's what i've done. I've never had a since you've never had a full time job in the us. Because i've lived here the whole time. There was just something about like the culture. The way the I'm kind of a non confrontational person like in your life. And there's so much respect for that kind of. I'm not gonna i keep my distance. I mean let other people live their lives when you're japan like you don't have people like knocking on your door so much to sell you something you're trying to nino you know it's like you don't have people going down the street just like with the windows. Rolled down just like blasting out their music through the subway. I i've just kind of a lot of privacy like for city as dense as tokyo. You think there'd be less privacy but it's actually a very comfortable place to live in that way so so just just seeing that. I just kind of decided like wow. This is a this is a good fit for my personality. And i think it would work here. Now do you ever see yourself may be moving to the countryside or to a smaller city or do you think you'll always stay in in tokyo I've considered it but it doesn't make economical sense for someone like myself who's a bilingual. It professional like the the money is always going to be in tokyo or in osaka. So there's i would be taking a big financial hit if i did that. I don't know. Maybe if i retired early or just retired normally i'd that'd be attractive. I mean there's there's lots of green hills mountains to climb lots of opportunity to live out there. And i've always wanted to live in a by river by the cabin or something. How does the retirement system work in japan. Because now that you mentioned i was like. Is it per company in you. You save it on your own or is there. Some kind of government system like the american social security Allegedly it similar to. Yeah exactly allegedly. That's the key word. Because there is a social security system that's going to be insolvent no matter how you slice it by the time i retire so i'm kind of just counting on my own investments in savings to get me through. It's very similar to the us. Excellent so useless for anybody. That's under seventy five or not dead already right. It's it's it's crazy. We were fed these ideas that our government are doing things in our best interest and we had talked before about Marijuana and just just drugs. In general in japan saratov And i was surprised because as progressive socially progressive as japan seems even though there there's certain strict ideas regarding crime especially yakuza stuff. But at the same time it's interesting to hear and see How forward thinking. Japan is technologically yet. How backwards thinking much. Japan but like asian other countries are in terms of drugs or at least as far as medicinal herbs and stuff so Is there anything you would want to try if it were legalized japan. In the next year to says you know what we're going to be like amsterdam everything's legal or anything. You know what i've always wanted heard about this or that or the other. What is there anything that piques your interest as far as recreational drug use at. I'd probably hit you up to get all your recommendations okay. That's that is flooding at the same time. Mostly my recreational uses for for pain management at the same time like the only two of us is just a mushrooms for psychedelics and cannabis for just that chill relaxing and alcohol. But that was in my twenties so I would be all open for trying cannabis. I mean i. I think it's a distant future where they actually legalized that in japan. I was reading just yesterday. That in chea which is like it's like times square is essentially. It's that urban in tokyo. They busted somebody for like four grams of marijuana yesterday and it would made headline news. So i'd be so much trouble. Oh here we go. here's stash. Yeah that's that's just one of them. Like i have a pound somewhere else that i need to prepare. You come here. You'll be like al capone's oh dude i get three. I wouldn't even get my standard. I owe you some. You stink here but of marijuana. I i grew myself. I'd whatever there was an incident here about it. It's been a while maybe maybe a decade or so but They were testing their narcotics enforcement. So they had this small quantity of cocaine and they Inserted into someone's a suitcase at tokyo international airport ninety three aboard and then they. They released the dogs to go and retrieve it to see how long they could eat them. Really get recovery. Recovered turns out. The dogs. couldn't find it because the persons with a suitcase had already left and they were downtown in tokyo. So the police had to send out a bulletin. Like listen we have this Unmarked quantity of cocaine in the suitcase. And we'd appreciate it if you bring it back to the police department. Did they return it. It's that is crazy you. You won't hand it makes sense to you. Know testings that way to test security but you would think you have the person that's the test e or the carrier the airport but if you put it on someone random that's kind of your own fault i would think it'd be like one hidden camera you know. That's a funny story like here. News is people getting shot. Not you know. Small quantities drugs tested out. But at the same time i kind of understand the mindset that i had a co worker at tesla She was an interpreter Because we had japanese workers helping build stuff. that's From a japanese company. That i can't think of it. I wanna say harada think you're right. It was a company or him. Motto is something h auto is how it ended so All these guys are maybe two people on the crew that under under standing. Stop no go. Hurry like that was it. And then we had. They had their own interpreter. And tesla had ours and she was a american student. Japan of file did the same thing Exchange student was there for two twenty. Three twenty four came back and got the job as an interpreter and news is kind of funny because she was experience sharing some of her experiences Which were a lot of stereotypical which would see on on media and reinforcing those ideas. It was just kind of funny that they were very segregated that they keep to themselves. They wouldn't anyone else. They eat their own lunch. Even though that they would go to a certain section that tesla's connected to panasonic. There's like two large garage door as that you can Flow material to and from on the panasonic side. There's a little half as a convenience store thing that also has sushi and the panasonic side. They have japanese employees working their japanese. Nationals that work there and so they would sit there but they will not talk to each other because even though the japanese and you think oh hey man. I haven't seen anybody from japan and so long or whatever what's going on they stay to themselves. You know the cruise sitting next to each other shoulder to shoulder and if they bumped into each other they they do their little. Excuse me i would. And then they go back to their thing. They wouldn't even introduce themselves which blew my mind that he can't imagine that happening in an american context. Right right yeah. If if there's two americans anywhere in the world or anyone that speaks english. Even if it's not american and it's like a british in an american or a kiwi and Also we speak english whatever but yet speakers anywhere they run into each own. What's going on they latch onto each other just for that camaraderie or communication. But it was just weird to actually see that it's one thing to hear about it but to see it is just doesn't make sense doesn't compute so we're talking about batteries right. That's the that big. Yeah the make a battery factory. They were planning with tesla did they. They didn't actually ended up billionaire. Right gigafactory is here in reno are technically it's called reno frigging in the boondocks anywhere It's got a thirty forty minute drive to get there on top of that. It's about another fifteen twenty minutes just to get through the gate because everybody's badge scan before they drive through or drive in and then you have to find parking because a parking lot is designed for about five hundred cars and you got Roughly eight hundred to twelve hundred people coming on per shift every twelve hour people trying to find parking trying to get closer trying to do all this other stuff then come in he badge into the building. And then you gotta go to. At the time there was only seven Punt time card a card readers. Time time punches. So you got eight hundred. People were trying to just run by badge in and badge out And so one side the gigafactory known as one whole building. They're just you don't see that. There's a difference from the panasonic to tesla side but the panasonic built z. Over-sized double as they have number values like twenty one eight fifty which is twenty one millimetres wide eighty-one millimeters tall and then Another number that defines a diameter or something. So yeah so. That's here in reno and then austin is building another one earlier building one in austin outside of it which pisses me off because i waited to go there but anyways whenever i think panasonic batteries I don't know if they did the same ad in the us. But have you seen the grand canyon. Ad apparently very rarely watch commercials like i download my tv shows in movies just to not watch commercials. They had this This little guy like a little robot just a couple inches tall on the on his back he had this power pack which was like a double a aaa battery and they put him on this rope and on the single battery he was able to climb to the top of the grand canyon from the so. Every time you go to buy batteries you see pictures. This little robot everywhere. Look this is this is the one. This is the one that will get you to the top of the grand. Can't do to where else worry. Let's see using music. Yeah so you're the music you'd said that the music is like prebuilt playlist from start going back to the whole server thing. You have your prebuilt playlist that the company only allows. What kind of music is it popular music or is it just instrumental Is allowed to be listened to in a japanese office I should say i we're. We're actually a child company of australian a global company so we're culture wise. Were more australian by the answer. Is it's jazz music i. I'm not sure why but just our industry Most often they choose jazz music. So we have a we have a playlist of. Maybe i don't know two hundred hours of music that we just Put on random mode throughout the day. It's not nothing cutting edge rusher interesting. I just needed some kind of solution Because we had been using like shuffle cd players. It was time to get off that. Remember when you say that. I think you sent me a picture of one of the carousel things. That i i was just laughing because i have not seen that since the late nineties at the most. So it's crazy to see old tech in japan like anything over a year and a half is just trash like oh just and if you recycle for to get the gold out of it other than that is just away or send it to the stupid americans buy it so. I just needed a drop in replacement for a shuffle. Cd player so why not. Just get a small energy efficient pc with a playlist on it. Put it on the network. So i can remotely change the playlist when i need to i. It's cheaper everybody We we we. We can For seasonal events. We can push out new music like we play list up for christmas for example when you were first deploying it is i think through like once. He's got an ipod shuffle. Just done with it. But he explained your need to be able to remotely do things which is a fun thing to realize you can do from the command line. Which was scary to me. Ten years ago Just anything on the command line. I think the only thing did the command line for would be to free up. Ram on a maga- pseudo purge in type in your password. Remember where. I learned that. It was the quickest and easiest way at the time he had like by an app to basically do that. Just a gooey rapper to run that command and it would show you display. Oh hey this is how much ram you're using which is you know seven point nine gigabytes of your eight gigabytes. Hit that freeze it down to one. I was just like just gotta be free way to do this or cheaper way. And it has been my motivation behind. Learning all the stuff that i have Destroy hopping with lenox. And all that is just like there's gotta be a free cheaper self hosted alternative in now there with good hub hubs like everything i can learn so thanks again for you to Pushing me inadvertently whether you knew it or not. He didn't know it but pushing me to like keep trying or do better. Because sometimes you like really. You're gonna do that in mind. I'm single fuck you. Yeah i'm gonna do that didn't work but you know still That that was the motivation. The push for me some time. So i appreciate you for that. I've been a lot of times the. It offer decisions. They're basically religious right. Like if you say i'm going to use this say like no you you can't. There's there's one true software and it's one over here the not even that companies have that mindset to like it isn't microsoft or it is in by this other major company or corporation like if he's not adobe then we don't want it even though an open source solution could be geared towards what their needs are like they say okay. Well we need this extra button for whatever if you write adobe and say hey can we get a button for this to be automated or basically make a macro the look they. They won't respond or they'll tell you. Oh we'll just whatever they'll give you some some corporate response but if you do that on get hub. You put in a request within a couple of days to maybe a month you might get that feature built in or they'll say. Hey you know this complex something else. We can't make it work. But why don't you try this on your end and That is my allure towards open source in general. So yeah i'm hating that. I'm seeing is like this whole freemium model going in with open source like Was zone minder and there was another one. Should know that we'd been battling back and forth happen from another to monitor our video cameras writer surveillance and some things. At least i propose to you. Because i'm not a coder. But i propose to you an idea like why don't they do this. It could trigger. Something would know how to do it but it was right. I've been in a love hate relationship with me for like two years now. I mean they do so many things right but they just need. They just need different governance. They need someone who understands the open source model a little bit better. I mean trump Might users who use you know. There's so much happier with it because it's a it's a better interface than zone minder has but i don't know there's just sometimes where it just I don't mind your fits better. 'cause it's has a long history and it has more leverage to turn have that feature like flowers stake in. It was like we want to Watch a zone in a picture so we just want this section here right here so anything that moves in this little block. We want to record. We want to trigger a recording. But we want to trigger recording two seconds prior so essentially recorded or record dump every night unless it matches this. If then situation which i would know how to write but it seems at least both of us that it seemed like an easy solution if then record if not right And i think you said you were going to open a a report An issue on get hub. But i don't know if we ever did or we will just like bullshitting about it. But i was probably bullshitting of course anyways. Steve thank you so much for being on. It's finally like. I said to put a face to the name names At actually i didn't realize her name was steve. Until i got on. Got on like acacia. We'll put put his instagram name. And i went. Oh hey his real name on there. Okay and we use that and a message you beforehand like. Hey which one do you want use. Good thirty made the out already made this little outline thing with your name was like maybe i should ask them. Maybe he doesn't want to get ducks so addicts for putting meat bone under my name. I appreciate that right there. There it is so hopefully we can have you on again in the future. We'll we'll have like a better topic to talk about. But i was just excited to finally have a friend in japan that is american and My girlfriend was always like why. Are you talking to like considerably the middle of night here sometimes a messaging you about some random thing is i. You know in japan. She's looks hep friendship. Yes quid fucking benji. So steve thanks for coming on look forward to seeing more of you and your drawings you can find him at kydoo and some numbers. What is it again. You're talking about my instagram. Right right right you know. I don't even know what is it. It's i said it's a long okay. Oh say so. Cairo k. a. i r. u. twenty nineteen. That's when you start adding one thousand nine hundred and but it was only twenty nineteen to so it wasn't like he started in december. It was really on because it's been a while that you've been doing is wrong so Ten if anyone looks that up on instagram just go in with no expectations. Because it's a real shit show out. There are some good soviet. You're still lives really well done like a like a lot of you're still lives your your animals Any face that you don't have to smile are good as well. Now so thanks again for coming on what have you and then again in the future and you have a good day because your days just starting it is nine. Forty two am have a good evening. Bye take care man. All right. Thanks later already. Oh here we go bam. I'm back over here. This is going to be fun to try to edit later but yeah that was my friend steve. In japan i do have friends in japan. Have friends in other places. So thanks again. For boo okay Thanks again for coming onto the show. This was just a random episode. Oh this is going to be a podcast. So you're going to hear my voice and so any of the visuals that we had. You're not gonna make not probably not gonna make sense. But i had a info graphic graphic. Just text block. That showed my friend. Steve name and location was so any case. Thanks for coming out here. Thanks for listening to this crazy episode. That really didn't make much sense. I love you guys until next time vessels.

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How To Use "Kinda Like" Bridges With Your Hook

Marketing Secrets

09:25 min | 3 years ago

How To Use "Kinda Like" Bridges With Your Hook

"Good morning, everybody this Russell Brunson, welcome to the marketing secrets podcast. Today we are streaming from my closet. So the big question is this how we're on brewers like us, you didn't cheat and take on venture capital for spending money for own pockets, how we market in a way the lets us get our products and our services and the things that we believe in out to the world and yet still remain profitable. That is the question in this podcast, give you the answer. My name is awesome Brunson and welcome the marketing secrets. Everyone. All right. I'm littering claws are now trying to close for the day, and I totally want to wear minute squirrel shirt as don't know that shirt is. But when we did the bowl soccer vent and we launched the viral video, there's the whole joke from the gold prospector about lake paint. Nudes squirrels that is. And so we have painted nudes squirrels in our office everywhere. It's like this speak funny joke. And so we have these new squirrel t shirts, which was like my favorite shirt for my wife hates. We're watching a video last night from our trip to San Francisco, and I hadn't need squirrel show on the whole time statewide. He wear that shirt. I hate it like, oh, it's my favorite anyway. So I can't really wear, maybe hang up her a lot today. So all the default, something not is cool, but in the closet state because getting ready and I want to kill two birds one stone and share with you something I'm working on. So lawyers last year spoke of the. Connects event and we sold three million dollars ninety minutes what which is crazy and extra speaking and decided to slash nine thousand people who've had this year. Moving forward this supposed to be thirty five thousand shoes of it, which is completely nuts yet it is what it is. So we've got, it's going to be insane. I'm so excited. So we've got thirty five thousand people and I'm doing presentation case be twice and then two presentations. But I got kind of craft it for for the audience and make a difference not wanted to same presentation every year. So I'm trying to think like what's it going to be? And next weekend speaking, where my buddies events, I don't speak at many events anymore, but they're super awesome people in a circle members. They Justin Terry Williams, my favorite people and and so I agree speaking event. And so I'm doing kind of rebuilding presentation. 'cause there are people are all like real estate investors. So it's a little different market. It's very similar though. It's like grants to grants people attending events. So I'm going to be basically I'm Creighton's presentation and I'm going to be testing it out here, testing material, paying attention on talking about, let me testimony cereal. Podcast about that Spicer anyway, I just my material here for women be giving at the tax benefit works well, and so that's kind of what I'm doing. And so. Yesterday was got title for presentation. And literally it was like, I think I spent eight hours title so they can't figure undoing presentation Russell's rehired just know that even for me, I'll spend eight hours the title because that's like hints from slide five title. And so anyway, yes, we finally figured title and it was after going through a bunch of oxygen of Justin and he was talking about how he's like real estate. Investors are kind of in the stone-age. He's like, he's like this thing, you're showing them and give them all unfair advantage. We can like literally like come into the future before everybody else. And I was like, oh my gosh, that's that's the title it's unfair advantage. This is the unfair events. Cell phones are the unfair advantage. And so I started thinking through that way, so I just echo in the bathroom, walking back and forth, getting things ready. It was thinking about from unfair advantage. I'm like, okay, that's that's the direction. It's the hook. That's the angle. What is presentations going to be unfair advantage, and I started going deep by. Okay. What other things are unfair advantage of? What does that look like? Would it be. Because I'm trying to find a lot of like analogies hind lake bridges, like it's kind of like this is kind of like this, and this is how my brain works. I'm hearing this with guys out loud because hoping helpful for you guys who are trying to create presentations like what's the process Russell goes through? So so unfair advantage that's that's like the, that's the big thing, right? Like I'm going to be giving us sales funnels are the unfair advantage and sure thinking, what are stories, other stories we know about unfair advantages in first Nepad. My head was back the future right back the future. Where. Really back future parts you? Yes, parts used to parts. You biff gets the time machine right? And he sees it. And so he does. He goes to the story buys an almanac of all the sports scores of all the things in the future. So he gets that. And then he goes back in time and gives younger with the Allman actresses basically, here's all, here's the sports course next fifty years. You can go did all these teams and become the richest man in the world, right? By doing a gambling on him. So it does becomes hugely famous because he all he is unfair mentioned knows who's going to win every single game, you know, who's going to win, like from a betting standpoint. Like you're, you're, you're just gonna win everything. Right? And so that's kind of how was forbidden. It's like there's a story I'm going to be able to share like him giving his unfair advantage like about this. Mattel, the whole story about. About biff in about that. And that's kind of like what this is unions, unfair advantage. Right. It's funny when we were doing the the presentation for. We wanna call billers secrets and it was it was we went to the whole database and click finals and found all of the different. We found all of the what follows working the best, how they work and he'd hold presentation like breaking out of, here's the ones that the finals during the best. Like if you're trying to figure out what phone Bill that cure they are. This is where it all all the money in cyclic phones being made at these funnels. So sure that he was at like, and I was kind of like, what's what's kind of like, and I say, oh, it's kind of like if. If if if Larry and Sergei the founders, Google words like open them bay, hey, guys, just, you know, this is the actual algorithm like giving you the algorithm and my dad was like, it's me giving you the algorithm. That's what this presentation is all about. Right? Which people cited hooks them. So for you, it's like when you're doing like I spent eight hours or how long it takes really cool hook. And the first thing is thinking that kind of likes with what is this kind of like, okay, this is kind of like Larry and Sergei giving you the source coach, you know exactly what page one. Good wherever sometime that's what I'm doing today with these funds. Right. Or this unfair advantage, kind of like number back each, you were different back time. Got the almond on, came back in and all the sports going pin richest man on earth. That's this is kind of like like, I'm giving you guys is unfair advantage. We were able to go where you're here. Competitors will be there soon. Eventually many next year, five years, ten years. All your competitors doing this, but you're here today and your unfair advantage before everybody else because I can come. She can capitalize on that. Right. And so like. This is all about, like I figured presentation titled the hook, the English, what's the hook that it's like, what's the kind of like bridges and make it like, oh my gosh, this is what's this been learned getting right. I look at the tennis event last year. Right? And final Bill builder, secrets webinar. I started. I didn't start out by like, let me show you how to build the funnel. Talk about hook in into Roger Bannister informant mile and how the format was broken by him. It's kind of like this, like I, I'm going to break the format mile for yesterday. See it was possible and you'll be able to inside your market. Right? And I shared the whole Roger Bannister story, upfront case like that kind of like bridge that bridges thing favorite beginning like, that's, that's the key. So for me, this nice presentation is the unfair advantage and I'm pumped about it. I'm going to think about a million different kind of likes. It's like this like we've throughout this entire presentation. So that is kind of like bridges, you guys. I kind of like bridges every time. I try to each complicated concept or show the concept people like, what? What is he talking about? Oh, well, it's kind of like this. And you make simply kind of like back Cincinnati? No, but also this kind of bridges to to encourage excitement of the thing they're about to learn about, right. It's like here's overarching hood, boom, it's kind of like this people like, oh my gosh, sake. I see. I see the future. I see what's happening. I see how this is. This is exciting. His men that would be cool if biff Kim gave me the almanac of all the all the sports scores, that'd be amazing. Right? So if this is kind of like that, I'm pumped. I'm excited. I'm ready to raise if you're so all right. That's why guys, I'm gonna, go fish, getting ready for school. My little man, Aiden he won the award today or this week, so we're gonna assembling seen getting award for being a courteous student. So they gave a little man. He's being very courteous. I love them. The Clinton were pants today, instead of like his normally. Sweatpants, whatever real pants. He's a super upset. So hopefully he will come out and be happy because we so cute little ward onstage. I love him. All right, thanks. Everybody talk to you soon. Talk to you soon. Marketing secrets, if so, go get your copies and my two best selling books. Number one, it's called expert secrets. You can get a free copy and expert secrets dot com. And book number two is called dotcom secrets, and you get your free copy at dotcom secrets dot com. Inside these two books, you'll find my top thirty five secrets. We've used to become the fastest growing non visa back SAS startup company in the world.

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Episode 103: Current Events 10/18

The Crypto Street Podcast

52:56 min | 3 years ago

Episode 103: Current Events 10/18

"Ladies and gentlemen, welcome event. Let's go. Thank you for tuning into the crypto Streep. Podcast here are host to trends and. What's up. Everybody. Thanks for tuning into night tomorrow, whatever. Whenever you're listening to this to the crypto SRI podcast, this is Dale so to say, you can kind of remove the crypto del out of my name since I've been thrown in jail by the Twitter police for the time being, but just killer nights night prince's off doing some Canadian things. We don't really know what kind of convenient that marijuana was legalized today in Canada and prince's non here, but. It's out of our control. Right? We're not saying they're related, but probably related. What's up killer. How's it going tonight? Good, man. It's interesting being here just the two of us. I don't think we've done enough Assode just off sue before, but we're looking forward to yapping up a storm. 'cause we're gonna you guys, if you don't like our ideas, you're going to be super sick of them by the end of these or the end of this. So yeah, so just sit back, enjoy the ride and like you said, Princeton, I've done one together alone. Think we interviewed godson you in prince have done several on your own without me. So that's gonna be pretty interesting. I think we'll be all right. 'cause people that don't really know us when we talk and in our chats or whatever on telegram and texting killer. It usually seemed to be about a thought, you know the same same thoughts running through our mind every single time. So kind of kind of funny and kind of scary. So let's cut the shit jump right in the talk about this by ans- chain now, asus implementation. So whatever people will, people might not know if if you haven't read anything. About this this chain now versus probably saying wrong. But so what they do is is they've got a KYC in k. y. t. software that binary choices is really, really starting to roll out this share, what does the monitors each transaction in real time. It's it's really designed to help with the anti money laundering regulations that really are. You know, with the the big thing, I think that people are worried about. So killer dive in kinda say what you think on this? Yes. So we're talking about this in our chat by Nance was sort of the last bastion of KYC free exchanges that were open to US residents, and that's the is a little bit too good to be true at this point cryptos in two under the microscope, it's too in the public eye. And I mean all these exchanges where you can sign up with an Email and submit US dollars or. Probably going by the wayside and by Nance was one of the longest holdouts, but now they're, you know, they're coming home to pasture. The US government's probably knocking on their door saying, hey, like what are you guys doing to know the identities of the people trading these assets? Many of which are probably securities. What are you doing to track this money? What are you doing to make sure there's no anti money laundering or there's no money laundering going on. And these regulations like anti money laundering are really commonplace in the finance world pretty much every Bank brokerage investment firm name the type of financial institution. They probably have to abide by these. So it's it really. It's not a surprise that this is happening. It's definitely gonna knock by nance's reputation a little bit among. I think the people that we sorta hang out with who were like crypto maximalists. You know, there are deep in the woods in crypto at this point it because you know, people value not having to submit an ID in for various reasons. I think many of which are illegal, but. You just for privacy? That's gonna the mean, but let's be honest because a lot of people don't wanna pay taxes, but so it's interesting to see. I mean it it's no surprise to me but of a sad day among some. But like we were kind of talked to talk in in the chatter earlier to me too. It kind of seems like this is everything against, you know, it's a double edged sword relates this is everything that Curto cryptos kind of against in in essentially, you know. But I think the big topic on a hand is, you know, when is this gonna take that next step the, you know, the institution money in a flow. And I think this is part of, you know, maybe that process where we can get to that next big step with with us, the CFO of Binat was quoted. You know, obviously he's gotta be one, the really pimp pump this up in pimp it out. And he said, the ultimate goal of our partnership with Jay. Jay now asus to create an environment. It. It. Bruins Bill save, which you know, I, I would definitely agree with that because this what this does this chain houses does is it's got these algorithms and pattern recognition, and it'll trigger alerts real time alerts, you know who triggers it to, I'm uncertain, but it alerts someone so that if there is anything leagues rowing on, you know money, laundry laundering because that's really, you know, when you talk to people that aren't in crypto when they hear of crypto bitcoin. That's the first thing that they think of is illegal acts and you know, drug money and stuff like that. So this maybe maybe Suzanne a little bit. I don't know, but to me, yeah, it's needed, I think, but maybe seems like it is everything that crypto doesn't stand for. Would you would you kind of agree with that killer? This is, yeah, I I agree. It's definitely sort of against the those in the spirit of crypto independence. But like you said, it's this weird dynamic between legitimacy and. Widespread exposure and autonomy, and I, I'm not sure you can really have a lot of legitimacy among governments among, you know, various financial institutions in regulations and also have complete autonomy. That's not the you can't because if you're anonymous and people don't know who you are, the governments can be worried that you're taking tax money from them. That's the bottom line and every government because that's how they found themselves as tax money. They're going to be concerned about that. And so I, I totally agree with that. One of the one of the quotes from the article I was reading about the chain. Alison thing is that kinda cracked me up was this is some binds Representative. I don't think it was easy. Oh, by nance's, chief financial officer ways you I'm probably butchering his name all about that. But the quote is the ultimate goal of our partnership with chain. Alice's is to create an environment and blockchain where everyone feels safe. We believe the fight against money laundering to be collaborative and proactive, which really cracks me up because like. Who logs into an exchange and they're like, whoa, whoa. Whoa. Whoa. No KYC like. What is going on here? How do you? I don't feel safe. It's like it's completely ridiculous, but it's it's completely corporate spin. You know. Like, I don't think a single person has ever felt that their safety was in question because of an exchange wasn't doing KYC, but. It's it's hilarious how it spun, you know, as a good thing, it's like, oh, you're, you're not complicit in money laundering like, well, if I'm not doing it, then I don't care, but. Okay, right. Yeah. And it's almost like it's, you know, they're trying to draw in the new investors in trying to make it seem like it is safer for everybody. You know whether it is or not, I guess we'll we'll see. So why were you mentioned privacy a little bit ago? You know, one of the biggest private privacy coins? Minero they. They had some stuff in in the news was today, I think killer. Yeah, just to. Yeah, there. Are they implementing the the what? The bulletproof bulletproof? Yeah. So bulletproof are a technology. Bulletproof themselves do not increase privacy, but they do make privacy coins more efficient. So one of the big problems with these sorts of coins, a lot of them, and this is all explain a little bit more about this later because some privacy aspects are actually more efficient for Blockchain's, but one of the big problems that coins like Manera that use ring, signatures ring c. t. or ring confidential transactions is that they get very bloated very quickly because its population Lee heavy to process these transactions wa. While maintaining the privacy of addresses of amounts of transactions. It's a very tough thing to do so bulletproof increase the efficiency of that process by. I think they're talking around eighty percent. Versing -nificant. That's a lot more efficient. And it's an exciting thing because I, I'm pretty sure minero is the first billion dollar plus blockchain to implement this. They're actually going to be implementing it tomorrow the eighteenth. So by the time most of you're listening to this, you'll be the it'll be actually happening in real time. So yet, you know, it's a pretty big deal. First billion dollar coin token to implement this. Like you said, it does not contribute to the privacy decreases away to confidence will transactions. So it's going to replace their current zero knowledge rainproof range proofs, which is is pretty big, is a pretty big deal and I are they hard forking tomorrow or is it just that they are. Just implementing the test process. Do you know for sure. I don't think who should. I don't think the hard forecast tomorrow that was somewhere in the article that me. Yeah, I like bird reading something about that. But yes, I, I don't think so. The upgrade will begin on October eighteenth but will happen in two parts on the eighteenth bulletproof will be enabled on minero and by Friday, the tech will be made compulsory. So I guess at eighteenth is tomorrow Thursday, the eighteenth is sort of like a an implemented, but don't mandate it day. And then the next day I, I assume when they go through with the hard for if we're on this pressure, check us in the comments or tell us, but that's what I'm gathering. So it'll be interesting to see how that plays out. I mean, Manera was one of those coins where I continue to be amazed at how undervalued it is, and I'm sure it's ninety nine percent a byproduct of just the market being complete shit. But I mean in your opinion, if this if minero se wasn't the number one privacy coin, which I think everybody listens to us regular knows that we're all pretty bullish on Manera. But if this wasn't the say the number one privacy Cohen would you would near opinion with this propellant to be that sought after privacy coin now because of bulletproof. Yeah. I mean it's tough because I think ninety nine percent of people who are in crypto, you say bulletproof to them and they're like, like, that sounds cool, but I have no idea what song by jordin sparks, right? Yes, only that early Aroo too. Electronic music fans a few years ago bulletproof. But anyway. Yeah, I, I would think so. I mean, I think z. cash has done a good job of marketing, but people who are deep into crypto, realize that the way z. cash was set up means it's slightly less private than minero at this point. I think that's pretty safe to say. I think z. caches association with companies in large-scale organizations is in and of itself. A privacy threat minero is very much underground coin. You know, the developers are synonymous. They don't release their names for the most part until it's very much under the radar which is exactly what you want after if you're looking for privacy only because you don't want anybody that any entity can go after to shut it down. And I mean, I think it's, I think it's probably already in my mind. It's number one market cap wise. I think it's near the top as well. If not the highest market cap coin with privacy is the main feature. But I think this will further solidify and if it goes, well, you're gonna see other privacy coins, adopt this technology in, you know, kudos to the minero team for having the balls in the smarts to implement this and get it out into the wild and can. And kind of see how performs. That's pretty great. Pretty bullish on minero have been for awhile. Stuff like this just continues to make me bullish on it. So. Let's move on and talk. Talk about the zero x pump pumping. What twelve percent before the corn based listing actually came out await real quick. One more thing about beliefs. I wanted to mention another aspect of it that's really flying under the radar is it contains a small kind of behind the scenes software tweak which is intended to dissuade a six from mining minero. So the minero community has had sort of this many war with a six going on a six being the type of chips that are specifically meant to mind bitcoin or some other function, and they're far more efficient at doing so because that's their sole function, right? So they've been engineered from the ground up to mind, big one. And so a six. What they've led to in bitcoin is a lot of minor centralization which increases the danger of the blockchain being subjected to a fifty one percent attack. So minero wanting to be centralized. Really, really hard to shutdown is aiming to stop this, and this is going to be a back and forth battle because the makers are going to see this fix. They're gonna read it in the code and they're gonna find something that probably works around it where they're still work. And this will be a game of tennis kind of back and forth or a game with pong. If you prefer between the chip makers and the privacy coin developers, and it's going to be a battle, it's gonna sort of be like the the performance enhancing drug situation that sports where it's between the scientists in the doctors who are working with the athletes and the guys who are doing the testing. And I think it's very much going to resemble that where I believe the devs will be usually a step ahead just because they're gonna have a first mover advantage where they know what they're working on for their chain. But the chip makers don't until after surreal, and they have a bit of head start to then work on something further than that that can respond to whatever the Jimmy do. And you look at like drugs in. In sports. I mean, usually the people who are cheating, how slight leg up because the people who are testing don't know what specifically, what tests for until somebody pops for it or they catch wind of it. And so I think it's going to be very similar here, but that's an important development. I mean, if you look at bit main point and how much they dominate that space, it's concerning because decentralisation is at the heart of everything they do here are everything that cripple stands for. So it's I, it's interesting how it plays out, but I think decline developers are going to have a leg up. Totally, I think so too. Nice reference there with the cheaters in in professional sports. Yeah. Okay. So those that don't know or maybe you're not active on crypto? Twitter, zero x, which is zero. X symbol got listed on coin base. Was this week or last week? I can't anyways. It all blends together. So. So really the first year, see twenty token that's on the Therion blockchain that got listed on coin base before got listed there. There's obviously rumors coin based put it out there that they were one that could or could not get listed so many pump with that. But the thing that's really sketchy. So to say, I guess you could say is that it was up twelve percent roughly before any news broke out that it was going to be listed. You know. And it's just kinda kinda strange to me because coin base, you know, when they listed bitcoin cash was the big thing about the insider trading or whatnot. And then they come out in our listing zero lacks in pretty much, essentially appears to be the the exact same thing. So pretty shady. I, I don't know. I guess you know, it almost makes me want to go out and buy bat basis, basic action token because it's one of them a lot of attention. But yeah, whatever it is. It's so yeah, they've, I I, there's, there's some speculation that it was sort of like an insider leak and people are buying it. But I think like perhaps a more likely explanation that I was reading about who's just that there are lots in software programs that basically constantly check the coin base API to see when they actually enable trading of a new coin before they actually announce it because they're making the change of hind the scenes in their software before they're announced the publicly, of course, because they wanted to be fully operational by the time people all God's. I gotta buy that. And I, I think the theory was that one of these bots which I believe is called lightning signal, which you can locate on Twitter is a free bought where it kind of scrolls through different exchanges API's to identify new listings before they're announced the theory. Is that not even a theory. I think this lightning signal bought put out a signal four minutes before going based announced it officially and the price went up like twenty percent in those four minutes between when the put the signal out in coin base actually announced zero x listening. And so if you were buying pre listing at all, if you bought at the bought signal versus the coin based signal, you made probably twice as much profit up eighteen percent vs up thirty six percent. And so it's it's pretty significant. And I think I think actually had a in the article. They had a quote by crypto hustle. Who shout out was on the show a little little bit ago. I think a few months ago saying that these are something that he uses in, they're just kind of one part of a strategy. But the thing is like I'm thinking back to the episode. We have with Ari like probably eight or nine ten months ago with Ari Paula where he was saying at that point, like pretty much everybody he knew was using Botts in crypto. And so this stuff has been going on for some time and probably on a level that a lot of people don't even really realize this happening. And this is just another example of something that's playing the markets better than any human can because you're not going to be pouring over coin bases, API in their code base and looking for a change that indicates zero s was added. You know these, I mean, if you have all the time in the world in your hands, maybe, but these are things that do that for you. So it's it's very interesting to see how these affect markets. You know, honestly, even if you have the time, why the hell would you wanna do that. I mean, I get you make some more money, but to me, that's just total nerd status. I guess if if you want to. It actually be dealing with like massive capital to make it worth it. Yeah, yeah. So I don't know what. What do you think the next one coin base is going to list. I guess. I don't know. It's like, 'cause people were saying zero x forever. And I was kinda like of the mindset like, yeah, I'll believe it when I see it and it turned out to be absolutely true. Next, I think stellar is pretty high up on the list which is completely mind boggling to me being in the space for a few years. 'cause like seller was coined that I remember trading on Polonius in thinking like, oh, this is complete. Dog shit is just like a, it's like a a little brother of extra Arpey or ripple because those two tended to move together stellar in ripple Ripplewood palm data than stellar pump, like two weeks later in clockwork. And so it it really trips me out there like people are convinced that coin base is gonna list them, but it makes sense now because sellers doing some good things in terms of payments and transactions speeds. They've partnered with IBM to do some stuff if I am not mistaken, but how much has changed just in the few years we've been involved like you go from something seemingly a total shit going to being probably the next coin base add. Right? I don't know. What do you think about that? I don't know. I I've personally think that it's going to be bad. Some people in the chat are saying ADA z. than the typical extra p. XL him destroyed, said shadow destroyed. So I, you know, I don't know. I think to me, I just don't want going based to get to the point where they're listing so many coins. I don't know. It's just kinda nice having the exclusively of what they have there, I guess. And also, you know, I still think with zero x that when the new people new investors come in, they're going to say, okay, this coin is ninety cents. So I'm gonna just by, you know, a bunch of that calling. Thanks Lux's gonna be listed. Next. Oh, baby a mind that, but probably won't get ongoing base, but you never know. Yeah. You made a great point though about like with every new listing, the newest things become less significant. Like I mean, like light coin or a theory, I'm getting out to coin base meant lame more for those prices than zero x getting out of the coin based just because there are more options. So the money is naturally going to be spread out among more options than so people are going to go to coin based on, they're gonna go, oh, it's not just bitcoin or theory on, because I mean, think about back in the day when it was just bitcoin theorem a new person with download coin base and they'd be like, okay, this is the app to buy crypto or bitcoin. And they were seem bitcoin at six hundred, and they would see theory at three dollars. And almost everybody goes, oh, well, why not buy the cheaper version at three dollars. And as there are more and more cheaper and cheaper versions quote, unquote to like the noobs mine than less money is going to flow into each one of those because it's more spread out. I mean, I don't wanna say it's going to be like point basis by Nance. All of a sudden where you have literally three hundred options. You can invest in. But it's gonna get more and more like that. And yeah, it ranges saying it's the nature of the market, though. It's true. You know, it's just kind of like regulation where it's necessary evil for these markets to grow in size. And I guess promote a holder. You know, our standpoint where we are invested, we kinda just wanna hope that enough new capital comes in to make up for that increase in channels. They can put their money into. Right, Jonathan, and the chat made a good point that said when ET see theorem classic got added, it didn't change price at all true kind of signs of the market. I think though, you know if that gets added in the last bull run, I think it, you know, it goes crazy. So I agree. I'm moving on something that you know kind of caught my eye was this. The hearing that when the Peter van Balkan Berg of the head of research coin center doctor nor yell, Rubini, who is a professor at den while you certain school business testified before the Senate banking committee? I dunno killer. Did you watch any of that? I, it was kinda periodically Washington while I was at work and I think you know, I, I wanna give shout out to Peter because I think he kept his cool pretty. He was really good at what he does, and he kept his cool a lot of times when Norio or whatever his name is was saying some stuff I, I was getting pretty heated. I'm somos disguise such a douche which you know. You could argue, you know, someone can argue to, he's not, but I think I kind of think he is. He's he's been Cohen after people on Twitter. In his life mission now to to kinda kill crypto currency. And here's one tweet. He said that that really, you know, piss me off, I guess as I, this is a quote, as I poke fun of these crypto crazies in lunatics they all came out of their shit coined filled cesspool 's in hurled, nasty insults against me. Twenty four, seven. So I block them all in ninety. Nine percent of them are angry. White males who are total who are totals life losers proves my point on crypto as right, wing notary. I guess that's that's still more were white male nutters or something. I guess. I mean, you know, if if I say that my ass gets band, let's just. Be honest. If you say less band. Yeah, I just think. I just think he, I mean, I'm not trying to steal any credit nation from the sky because he seems to be a pretty well respected. You know, whatever he is in his file the I think he teaches econ, but. You know, piss off, man, you don't. So let me first of all, say that Noel Rubini is a beautiful name. It is. It really is. It flows off the tongue. It's amazing. I believe he's Turkish or his family is from Turkey. I could be wrong on that could be sort of Iran. Could be right. Anyway. So Rubini is a guy who's been in sort of the limelight in traditional finance for quite some time because he successfully or pretty successfully called the two thousand eight crash in the stock market. So that's how he really got famous and what tends to happen in traditional markets is if you make one really good bearish call and you end up being right, you are allowed to go on TV as much as you want, say as much bullshit as you want for at least the following ten years. That's how it works, which is completely ridiculous. Is these people often make these predictions for years of the time before they end up being right, and then they run with the instance where they happen to be right, you know, and so it, it sort of thing where a broken clock is right twice a day, and so Rabin is, you know, I it's sort of like a Peter Schiff type if anybody's familiar with him where they both called the two thousand eight crash really well, and they've been shouting into the wind. For the following ten years and been wrong about pretty much everything they've substance them. And what happens is, you know you make a good prediction and it goes to your head, you think, oh, I know better than anybody, you know, I, because that's kind of a natural human thing is the overconfidence in thinking you're smarter than everybody, and they get this idea in their head that there's some kind of oracle and these guys just on and on and on make predictions that end up being wrong at that point because they've, oh, they're overconfident, they're not thinking logically. They're just kind of going with their gut because they think they're got is spot on at that point. So Rabin is a little bit detached on on this crypto shit. I mean, if you look at his tweets, you can tell he doesn't really know what he's talking about. I did not watch the hearing actually, so I can't really comment on that, but I saw some snippets of it and it just it's just the thing though is like I said, if you look at some of the sweets, he doesn't really know what he's talking about this stuff. So how much weight can I really put into all the other stuff he says about crypto. Because he's established that he's just kind of winging it and he's probably read some headlines or some surface level articles, and I think we can. We can all sort of relate to that a little bit. Yeah. Vinnie lingam is another example nomad, but I think we can all relate to that too degree because I mean, when I first got involved in crypto, there are things I thought for sure. After like the first few months that I look back now and I'm like, oh, I was an idiot because I thought this there was that little thing that I didn't consider which completely disproved my point. And I think that's where Rabin is out right now. And I think that's where a lot of traditional finance people like Jamie diamond perhaps are at right now where they have enough knowledge to be dangerous, and they have enough knowledge to be confident that they're not talking about in public and keep buying. These are very successful people to. I mean, Jamie diamond is the fucking CEO of j. p. Morgan. So he's had an entire life of success and kicking ass. And that doesn't go away easy. You know, you don't go from that to some humble guy who's like, I know nothing. No, I bought to you who know more it just it takes a while for that to happen. And so these guys get a little bit of knowledge and they get very cocky and they go to the press and they start spouting off on stuff like this. So. I think ruby any sort of in the point right now where he doesn't realize how much he's damaging his reputation because he doesn't know what he doesn't know, and these guys have the platform to or they could spew whatever the hell they want, and people are gonna listen to them and go with it. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So I, I do agree with you. I think he's a little off far fetched. You know the last time he called. And don't quote me on this. I'm not saying the word for word, but the last time he called something with bitcoin pop in was when it was like fifth sub, fifty dollars maybe and you know, look at even now we're, we're down what we are. He would still be up massively if he would have thrown something into, you know, it goes to show to the difference between them. Unlike him in a Howard Lind's own who you know, doesn't really know much about crypto, but realizes that it's a movement realizes that there's money to be made. And he has some friends that he trusts and you know, they're investing in crypto. So he thought, you know why not take a stab at it, what what's worse that could have him size, lose all your money going to zero. But you know it just shows two different types of people, maybe. No, totally. Yeah. This Norio Rabin is a little more old school than Howard would be. So it's. It's funny to read his tweets in what's funny about krypton Twitter's, you know, we might be bashing each other all day long. And then as soon as someone attacks us as a whole, everyone just gangs up and I've seen people are you know, screen shotting that he's blocked them in there saying, add another trophy to the trophy case. So it's just kind of funny in how he said that the ninety ninety nine percent of crypto Twitter's is attacking him twenty four, seven. Well, that's probably pretty accurate. So just kinda funny how we can be down each other's throats and then. Join forces to wipe someone's ask. So your point comparing him to lindzen was like completely spot on because you're starting to see this traditional finances full of charlatans. Basically they make one good call to get notoriety for it, and they ride that call off into the sunset with media appearances with newsletters where they claim to predict the future. It's all bullshit. The guy you really wanna trust is somebody like Howard where he's more than willing to say, look, I don't know what's going to happen. You know, I, I know some smart people who know more about the stuff than I do and they say, this is going to happen. So I trust that, but I don't really know. And Rabin is on the other side where he gets a little bit information. He thinks he's an expert and and that's when you know a guy is, you know, probably hasn't agenda or is just kind of making calls to make calls and you're starting to see that in crypto two, it's been very, this is something I almost tweeted the other day, but I thought it would be like, I, I don't know. I, I thought it would be too obvious who I was talking about based on the initial. Tweet, I was home. Criminal like is really starting to get charlatans in what I mean by that is like salesman where it's just always Uber bullish or Uber bearish or something, and it's for clicks. It's for ratings, but they're feeding you largely bullshit. And I think you gotta start to be aware of that because cripple getting big enough where there are some big people who you think you can trust, but it's completely agenda-driven and I'm not gonna even Amos. I mean, we can probably talk about this after the episode, but it I'm really starting to see this merge where it's just like prepackaged bullshit. That's either completely bullish or completely bearish, and it's it's just for the point of clicks, because if you're neutral, nobody gives a fuck, but most of the time neutrality is fairly close to buy neutrality. I mean, like sort of inbetween between the furthest sides of each of each issue, the opinions. I think that middle ground is sort of usually the most accurate. If you're too far on one side or another, you're probably selling something promoting something. But you're not giving people the absolute best information. And that's one thing I think we've always kind of tried to do is like not before a shit, like there's plenty. We don't know what we're talking about, but I think I hope at least that we're willing to admit that in like people can kinda tell that, you know if we do feel confident in something, then we talk about it. But it's interesting to see Kroto develop these salesmen are listen types. Yeah. And like nomad on, I am no met on. Twitter always says, is going back to us is that we're always, we're one of the best key would what is he out? I guess I'm drawing a blank like he always says he countered to every go. He countered trades everything that we say. So just kind of funny, I guess. So with without. There's like there's very little evidence behind that though. I mean, I love no mad, but like it's it's kind of turned into a joke. But like I mean, there have been episodes where we've been Super Bowl ish and their turns out to be Barish and vice versa. But that goes to show. I mean, nobody's ever like right most of the time. I mean in traditional finance, you're right fifty. Five percent of the time you're doing pretty well, and it's this yet nomad shoutouts you. But also I think I largely disappeared without it's, it's funny that you run with it, but it's it's sort of just how equities and asset pricing works. And I'm sure you know that almost mad with your background, but whether you type too. I think the bus star balls, no matter what we do minez probably why. Realistically, he doesn't wanna come on. Ooh, that's a good theory. I liked that no mad perhaps confident in tweeting, but not speaking plot. Thickens. The mouth is maybe maybe not though maybe just keep up. All right. Let's talk about that tether crash, the. Premium biff an everything like that. So US DT hit the new low of ninety. Two cents the lowest. It's been since money like two hours. April two thousand seventeen, which you know everything I've found read. No one really knows why killer tracked me if I'm wrong. Well, it's, I mean, tether and bit. Phoenix have been issues on and off for the past, like literally four years probably at least. So it's it's always a new issue. I I've kind of it's it's one of those topics where I started just kind of filtering it out like I see it and I'm like, oh, biff. X.'s. Insolvent, hilarious. Not really. But it's, I think it's one of those. I mean. I just think if there's this much smoke, there should be fire if something is actually really wrong with biff and extra tether. And we've said this on previous episodes. But I mean there's enough of microscope on these people were unless they're just doing a phenomenal job of evading authorities. Then there's probably nothing really horrendous there. I mean, maybe there up to some questionable accounting and shadiness. But if it's like some giant conspiracy like bit phonetic says bit financed, I should say, says on Twitter, I just gotta think it would be exposed by now and for people were following biff next on Twitter to keep in mind this fucking guy, constantly tweets, and then deletes and he'll say something that's stupid. And when he finds out it's stupid, he deletes or he misrepresents facts to suit his point. I, we've been on Twitter long enough. We've seen this guy do this a thousand times. You have to take everything. He says with a gigantic grain of salt. I mean, like a boulder of salt. Like if you put any way at all, because he clearly is agenda driven. I that kind of interests me more than like that connects and tether is bit for next and who's behind him who's running out account. I don't think it's one guy. I think it's multiple people. There's been a conspiracy floated that bit. Phonetics is an operative of a rival exchange who is aiming to take down. Six. That's interesting various in foil hat, but I could see it. Totally, and you wanna know who retweets the shit out of it for next any guesses Killick. Any router. Rabeni really? Yeah. I don't know why severe? Yep. Go go look at his. If you're not locked from being go just scroll down his tweets about maybe like two days worth and I bet you damn near. Every other tweet that's on there is him re tweeting. But Phoenix. That's interesting. I mean, I it's kind of goes to show you that people they make up their mind, and then they look for evidence that confirms the idea they've already formed. I mean, very few people are this neutral monk who sit there, welcoming opinions from either side and correctly weighing either of them. You know, it's very few people have the emotional constitution to do that. When in reality, that's probably where you get closest to the truth is trying to remain neutral possible in at least listening to other ideas. And I mean, biff next is not that Rabin is clearly not that at this point Rabin has taken a stance and now he's going to do everything. He can approve that stance. No matter how much evidence to the contrary emerges. Yeah, even if someone proves him wrong or you know, big bitcoin goes up in stays in in a higher range in minot has another bowling. I, I still think that he's gonna disown it. So they were on crippled for one to shout out on the chat. He just goes, Rubini pays for Tinder. I think that's. The guy that hung with us set in Philly is yeah. Was trying to figure out a way not to. But crypto four, one, two or bits. Berg, check him out on Twitter, good dude funded. We had a really good time hanging out with him at the last conference it went to. So. A couple more shutouts. Bell and body are in the house. So thanks for you guys. Listen. So back to this whole tether, finish thing, one thing, one quote that you know the the big skeptic on it is, is there actually a dollar back for every you know, one as DT. Tethers chief compliance officer, Leonardo riyal or whatever said that, you know, they do have every tether is backed by USD in that their assets exceed their liabilities in always have in. It's never been a question. So you know, we've we've talked about this before on here killer and I think you you've been a big proponent of this. Is that that you know they've undergone audits so they've passed those. You know, I, I don't really know what to to believe here, what to really feel. So a month just kinda stay neutral. I don't think you know, I saw so curious tweeted that if you weren't buying tether at ninety two cents, you know, what are you doing? Because obviously he feels pretty comfortable that it's going to hover on that dollar mountain. You know, made pretty easy money, so I don't know all eighty cents or whatever. Drop through shit. Yeah. So that's that's kind of odd. Do you have anything else ad for that. For tether. I just, I think what it boils down to is this. I'm not conducting the audience. The audits I don't have insight into specifically what's going on there who's conducting them how they're being conducted. So I don't know if I can comment on that. The only thing I know for sure is that if there is this much negativity around it. For this long. I highly doubt that they are really up to some serious shady business. I mean, the US has kind of piqued their interest and said, hey, what's going on here? Tons of other governments have done that other exchanges of them that there have been so many people trying to take this entity down. If an ex and tether, I just, I gotta think that if it was really some shady business that would have gone by now. And that's the thing I keep coming back to a shout out. The rains killers the only person on ESPN who consistently pronounces things correctly. Anyway. Sorry, off topic. Suck it. So. All right. So I I have found, you know, just kind of reading the stuff that we were today getting ready for tonight. I kind of found some. You know, things that I found very interesting that maybe are overlooked by McComb random tidbits, but the average daily volume for for bitcoin futures grew forty one percent from in quarter three from quarter to and it's actually up one hundred seventy percent from quarter one, which Tomase pretty bullish. There are three pro crypto bills being introduced to congress by congress right now are man Representative. Tom Emmer is kinda leading the charge on two of those. Basically, you know, they were kinda over my head but go coin centers. Got a good article on them. So go on over there. Don't donate any money though, because as make neurologic talk to you of the police bother him, the is one of the funniest guys on Twitter but gives a little bit funny, some odd number, by the way shout out to the pod formed a year ago today, the telegram chock group. It's it's a fucking chat group. Let's. It's not. I'm not gonna change in the world, but it has made a big difference in my life and hope the lives of a few others. We've got a lot a lot of representation of the pot in the chat tonight. So that just kind of goes to show, you know, this goes back to one of my biggest things. My advice to new people is network, get out in get, you know, not necessarily people with similar traits dot trading stylists, you because it's always good to hear. Hear other people's trading style, you know, you can adapt and mold your trading style to be obviously as for you. But hearing other sides of the aisle is is really crucial. I think killer and I can say that prince's he's not here, but his trading style is unlike any that I've seen. I'm not gonna get into details of it because I don't think he'd want me to, but it's just funny to see his trading. Who would you not agree is like a Princess, the youngest among the three of us, and it's very funny because Dale and I are. The ones who are like opening like twenty five times fifty times leverage straight max. Here we go. Boys going to the moon and Princess like pro cars. I only do five times leverage max. That's as far as all goal. Usually it's two to three times that was a horrible daughter. Turn the leverage down. He's totally right. I mean, we're just like your like. Yeah. So he I, the funniest prince trade story is I I message, I think it was in our Chad. I message said Yoda strat, it's, you know, I think it's about ready pop. He remind trees. And then later that night, I said, hey, my entries hit finally in prince's, like Olea of been in and out of it five times already. Brew. How about like the prince's are co host? How many times does he counter trate at us? Like he tells us Chad. He's like, oh, I'm love him. Send right ear. And like we look at the orderbook and it's just massive cell walls, and then we go Princess you and he's like, oh, yeah. Sorry, guys. Maybe. Yes, exactly. Emoji to us like a is like, bro. Like where you're komo's you're dumping on us your frigging dumping on us, but no shoutout hand. So this is what we just mentioned said, I just I wanna talk about Santa little bit because I have a a little funny funny story about send. So we got into San, unfortunately, I got my father into send as well. This was when I thought like I was sold on San by some friends and. Our theory was basically that like a lot of big dogs are buying it. So it's going to do all right, you know, because people will want it to succeed. And so I, I went to my dad and I'm like, dad, you should put some money in this like, well, I don't think I went to him. I think he came to me and I thought of Sen. and a better money into it. And then just re this is probably six or eight months ago and so send was much higher than it is now. Probably not that Fargo, but it was long ago. And so like the last couple days my dad comes to me and he's like, hey, that thing we that crypto thing, we put money into canoe, semi, like an analysis of like what that is, like, why you did it? And I was like. Like. Look back in like I didn't really have a good reason. I just thought it was going to pump like it. So I'm like, I'm like scrambling for information to find. So I can like tell it to him and like like, give them a strong case, you know, just ended up like Sunday him the website link thinking to my head, like, say, started to basically it's gonna pump too many people are in on it written ought to and it's down, like seventy percent from what he got it. He should have sent him. The Lincoln said d. Wayel our new. Bro? Well, the thing is San was like a third of the ICO price when I bought it for him. So I'm like, how much lower can it go literally down like seventy five percent from then. Anyway, restaurants, let's wrap up with bold prediction through your end. What do you got. Bold prediction. I think this may be bold right now. I think biff and will be operating largely businesses usual by the end of two thousand nineteen. Bold. Cat. I don't know what mine would be. You know what is going to be. I'm going to get my original crypto Dale account back by the end of the year. I hope so that is built after feels, but I should on number sixteen. So what do you do. You're fighting living ridiculous. Yeah, I shouldn't have abandoned the first place, obviously. I know. Oh, well, it happens. I've learned my lesson Dinnie. Twitter folks are listening. So sit pretty well the worst song. Got anything wrap up with killer. One final thing I wanted to talk about this is just something I kind of thinking about lately is looking back at crypto bull markets and stock market bull markets. Crypto has never been in an environment where the stock market was doing poorly. So the last major stock market crash was two thousand eight kind of started in two thousand seven. Let's say crypto became like a mainstream thing, or even semi mainstream. Let's say like early two thousand ten, two thousand eleven ish. So cryptanalysts largely had this tailwind. Of equity markets doing well. So people making more money there, which they then flip into riskier assets because they're very comfortable with stocks which are just grinding higher for like the past ten years. And I'm I'm a little bit concerned about what happens if crypto recovers in the next few months and the stock market just completely takes a shit. And I think that's fairly likely. I think the stock market is like the reaching the top. I think it may have a couple more years in it, which would be enough for another crypto run. And that's like ideal. We should all like go outside and dance in the rain event. But I'm wondering what happens because I mean, some people have this idea and I tweeted about this where, oh, the stock market goes to shit. You're really gonna see crypto showing and people are going to pile money into it. You guys have never been involved in markets in your lives. Anybody saying that completely clueless because when the traditional markets are crashing, people are not looking to put their money in shit going bitcoin. It's completely ridiculous. Like these act opposite will happen. They will sell off their bitcoin first before the stock market really takes ship when. So if you're hoping like for a market downturn because they go crypto goal of five million percent, no chance, like I say, many things without much certainty because I realized I can be an idiot, but I'm pretty fucking sure about this. And I think you gotta get this notion out of your head that if the equity markets crash, you're going to be swimming in gold, like fucking Scrooge mcduck. So I think I wanted to talk about that because I think that's a very real possibility is crypto starts to recover. An equity is just completely bite the bullet and. I think people are underrating that possibility. You know, I kind of agree with what you're saying killer because you know, just look at will bitcoin did the other day, you know how two thousand dollar plus wick. So I just think with that volatility that if if the stock market which you know is the bee's knees, if that starts taking a dump thin, you're going to see people rushing out a bitcoin by buying gold or whatever the case may be. They do, but I. I think you wanna see the stock market doing well, and then people are more likely to take a risk on something like like bitcoin in Chicago in. So I, I agree completely with. All right. Well, thanks for listening love to hear some feedback on some stuff. You know, we're always trying to improve this, the podcasts hundred. This is one hundred and third episode, so not planning on Hilton this anytime soon. So we appreciate everyone listening to that waitress. They're working hard even though we're broke his shit too. So just getting, I always get people always give weird. When you say your broker, you're swimming in money. So we're flat catch-up suck. We just getting no come after us. Yeah, we'll shit so peace out. Everybody. Take care tip. Your waitress be safe. See guys. Thanks for this.

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Bitcoin Comes Untethered

The Journal.

19:23 min | 1 year ago

Bitcoin Comes Untethered

"In in twenty seventeen the crypto currency. Bitcoin was on a huge rally. At one point. In December its value had soared by nearly two thousand percent a massive run up in prices. I mean huge huge run from prices. Paul Vena covers crypto currencies sees in March of twenty seventeen the total market value of all the bitcoin that route standing was about twenty billion dollars by December cimber that market value had risen to three hundred and twenty six billion dollars. So that's the scale of what we're talking about here. Three hundred hundred billion dollar increase. Yes in a year and less than a year as the price rose. Bitcoin went from tech experiment to something that regular people wanted to buy. I remember one guy that I ended up talking to a lot. He was he was a grandfather from Texas. I think you know he's a person who had worked his whole life and hadn't made aid investment and had money and was looking for places to put his money right. You WanNa grow your money. Started getting interested in crypto currencies. He will bitcoin bought a couple of others and he was very excited in two thousand seventeen because the price is going up and he was making money and he was talking to his friends and they had like a little club going right right and people were coming to him saying. Hey bitcoin is I heard about this thing you bought it. Didn't you which I do. So that's how it kind of starts networking outright one person in his biography and they start making money. They're bragging about it to their friends and their friends are saying. Well maybe I should buy tomb. That's really interesting. This was the dominant narrative about bitcoin. Green demand grew because people were excited about it. And that's what caused prices to go up and up but now a new narrative is challenging that on Monday new research alleged that the price of Bitcoin should never have gone that high and that the only reason it happened is because of a massive passive scheme orchestrated by one single account to manipulate the price of bitcoin today on the show what we know about this alleged scheme and what it says about the market for crypto currencies. Welcome to the Journal. Our show about money business empower I'm Ryan Knutson and I'm caitlyn bought. It's Tuesday November fifth and this is a story about bitcoin but it takes place in the world of another crypto currency tether and tether is a lot like bitcoin you have a wallet and you have an identifier for that wallet but Unlike Apple Pay Unlike a bank account. You don't have to provide any identifying information to that wallet. You're just downloading a piece of software her but tether is different from bitcoin in one very important way it is basically pegged one to one to the US dollar the way they maintain that peg. Is You give the company one dollars or however you know you buy million tethers right you give them a million dollars they take that money and they stick it into a reserve so the idea is that for every tether circulating ercolated. There's a dollar sitting in a bank account somewhere. That is what maintains that one to one peg with the dollar. And why would people give up a dollar for a tether well. The initial reason was that this was designed to be something that would dampen volatility in other words. So you have bitcoin and you WANNA buy ether. And now there are other Carter both trade freely. The prices are very volatile right. You could wake up in the morning and your Bitcoin coin is worth you know. I don't know three thousand dollars you would go to sleep. It's worth fifteen hundred dollars of the ideas that tether maintains a set value that value is said one dollar part of the reason everyone uses tether is because of that dollar for dollar backing the company that makes heather says that it only creates more of its currency currency when there's demand and they have dollars to back it up so people see it as fairly stable and many use it as a kind of base currency they buy I enter tether and then use that to buy other crypto currencies largely bitcoin. It is the main source of exchange so in other words about seventy five percent of all the bitcoin trading that gets done is in exchange for tethers so everybody uses tether to bye and sell other crypto currencies but in June of two thousand eighteen. Some research came out that raised questions about that entire model that tether said it was using to academic researchers released a report which looked at how tether was influencing the price of other cryptocurrencies and they looked at the biggest cryptocurrency out there bitcoin so they took the data. They took every single bitcoin transaction every a single tether transaction downloaded it it's about two hundred gigabytes of data and two hundred. Gigs is a lot a lot. I mean it's a lot of data. They they took all that data through it into a spreadsheet gigantic spreadsheet created some algorithms to be able to trace it effectively actively and started drawing patterns. shorted graphing where others were going were. bitcoins were going. The researchers named John Griffin and I mean Shams cross-referenced that bitcoin data against other crypto currencies and came up with a thesis. And the thesis is. Okay here's a company Buzney. Tether saying we create tethers in response to user demand in other words are prices rising because people are coming in and wanting to buy it. And that's driving up the the value or are they. Creating tethers on backed in other words. They're not creating tethers because they're being given money they're just creating tethers to create tethers and put them out into the marketplace and create the illusion of demand and drive the price after looking at the data. The researchers researchers found that the company's narrative the user demand was driving the creation of new tethers. Didn't tell the full story. Because their analysis revealed revealed a weird trend in the way that new tethers were entering the market Griffin and Shams noted that tethers were all being released on one specific marketplace marketplace called Bit Phoenix. So in in twenty seventeen in two thousand eighteen. If you wanted to buy tethers you had to go through the exchange connects bit. Phoenix was the only customer of the company. Tether and bid phonetics was actually owned by the same people who owned tether. It was essentially the same three guys. One was an American tour Europeans. The American had a background on Wall Street worked for under the big banks here in the US but they were very opaque they were very not transparent about who the work. The researchers also noticed the way. New tethers there's were being released on the market was strange. You'd think there'd be a kind of randomness to the demand for them. But they saw a correlation tethers. Were moving into the market. At very specific times the patterns showed that you didn't have money coming in from all different people people at all different times and going out at all different times and to all different places you had a very distinct pattern of tethers going specifically specifically from the company to bid fix and from bit fanatics out to a couple of other exchanges and Griffin and Shams found. Something thing else to what they found. was that in the three hours before these events. The price of Bitcoin was generally down not generally down the price of Bitcoin. It was always down as soon as the tether was sent out into the marketplace. The price of Bitcoin starts going up which would indicate that the tethers were used to buy bitcoin. Which would indicate that? Yes that the tethers were used to create a false impression of demand in order to drive up the price of Bitcoin and that it worked and so what was their conclusion their conclusion was that roughly half of the gains of twenty seventeen were created via this scheme and those gains were the time that the market went from twenty billion take three hundred twenty odd billion yes which is a three hundred billion dollar increase so half of that would be about one hundred and fifty billion. They're saying about one hundred fifty. He billion worth of the increase in Bitcoin was created via this scheme to make it appear like there was more demand bitcoin than there actually was. They conclude that indeed a lot of tether was being used to manipulate the market. All of this research pointed to possible currency manipulation elation in other words that the company behind tether was producing the currency with the soul of pushing up the price of Bitcoin join together and bit connects disputed the findings of the research they said. The research lacked academic rigor and had no merit at all. It wasn't just academic researchers who are starting to scrutinize this currency that was so central to the entire world of crypto regulators in the the US were investigating two and they were finding more troubling things behind the scenes. That's after the bring drew. You're one disaster after another senator Elizabeth. Warren has faced tough crowds. But it was a room full of Sunday school kids kids. That almost broke her. I had no control over what was going on the cut each other's hair. They cut each other's clothes. The boys climbed out the window. Join US on Elizabeth Warren Sun unfortunate to hear about the day she proposed to her husband or collection of haunted dolls and the Republican senator. Who says she's the toughest teacher he ever had? was into the cut on Tuesdays on spotify five. Or wherever. You get your podcasts Welcome back in the spring of Twenty nineteen nineteen several months after researchers. I laid out their theory about manipulation in the bitcoin market. The New York Attorney General's office announced it was investigating tether and bit Phoenix. The investigation dug into the very question. which a lot of people already had about tether did the company have the cash cash reserves to back up all the tether circulation the company tether says we have this money sitting in bank accounts and we keep it there they a have been over the years consistently asked to provide some proof that they are actually doing this and they were never doing it? And it was always fueling these doubts and the New York attorney. General's investigation may be sharpening those doubts because according to the investigation tether had secretly currently transferred a huge amount of cash to its sister company. Bit Fix the cash. Transfer came after a totally separate issue. That bit fin- ed run into bit. Phoenix loses access to eight hundred fifty million dollars of its customers money. And according to the Attorney General's investigation. How did did that happen? Bid Phoenix starts using this third party payments processor and they put a lot of money with them at one point they had at least eight hundred fifty million dollars. Sitting in bank accounts counts controlled by this payments processor. The payments processor in two thousand eighteen gets raided by law enforcement in the United States Poland and Portugal. They have bank accounts and all those countries to bank accounts or seized meaning. That law enforcement took control of those accounts owned by bit phonetics which posed a problem fix as an eight hundred and fifty million dollar hole in its balance sheet. It's just loses. This money hasn't gotten it back. What do they do? They don't tell anybody about it. They don't disclose it publicly. They raid the tether reserve. They take nine hundred million dollars out of the Tether Reserve Zurve and give it to bid Phoenix. And that's what the New York Attorney General's office is alleging. Just after this came out bit Phoenix put out a statement that argued that the Attorney General's filings were written in bad faith and riddled with false assertions and bit connects characterize them as an overreach. The company moved to dismiss the attorney. General's Court order in the Attorney General's investigation there. There were some other revelations one was that tether actually had had a ton of cash just as they assured their users but now that they'd given so much of the cash to fix they didn't actually have that one to one ratio of dollars to tethers. If the dollar backing isn't there are they creating creating you know like people always complain. that the Fed's creating money out of thin air is tether and biff next creating money out of thin air. That's the question. That's the real no question if they are then combined with that earlier research about how there were weird patterns of tethers moving around the marketplace that all all could point to the question were tethers created without backing for questionable purposes. And then yesterday those same researchers here's John Griffin and I mean Shams released another paper new paper says that this scheme was being orchestrated by one entity entity does from analyzing the blockchain from analyzing the flow of tether the flow of Bitcoin the exchange between them. And if you look you know and again we're talking about millions and millions of transactions. But what they did was they looked for common pathways and they eventually found that there were a lot of them and what they found was that there were so many of them. Going through a single account on biff. ANEX that they concluded one person had to be controlling that flow so one person or one account one entity entity was responsible for all of that alleged market manipulation just one hundred and fifty billion dollars worth basically. That's the conclusion. That's the conclusion do we. We know WHO's behind that entity we don't know definitively who is behind the entity What did they say John told me? Is that an and I wanna make sure that the the quote in my story is. If it's not bit phonetics it is somebody that fixed did a lot of business with so basically. You're talking talking about an account that was about twenty five percent of all the bitcoin volume on their exchange was a major gigantic account. So fingers about about half of all the others flowing through this account twenty five percent of all the bitcoin trading is going through. I mean this was something. There's no way they wouldn't have noticed it or known about going on is what John Griffin is saying. I think so either. It's a company account that biff next controlled or he's saying it's an account that they knew who it was and they were allowing it to happen does Griffin say that bit Phoenix was involved in this alleged price manipulation scheme. I mean he he he he comes within about two hairs of saying that it was bit Fedex. I mean again. Go back to what we were saying before. The transactions are public the identities. These aren't so it's not like this account we're talking about somewhere. There is a record of who opened it when they opened it who they are their social social security number their address their phone number their facebook account none of that identifying information attached to it. So you can't say definitively. Who owns that account? What did it say about the account? bishoprics adamantly disputed the reports findings. They said that it lacked academic rigor they called it. Foundationally originally flawed They had a couple of not quite nice things to say about the professor himself. For the most part crypto twitter has responded the same way responded They have been completely dismissive. They ripped the report. They have ripped the reporters have They're they're not buying it. So what does all of this say about crypto currency markets what this says cryptocurrency markets gets in general is that you don't know who you're trading with you don't know who is on the side of you don't know who the brokers are you don't know who's running these exchanges you you don't know if the trades are legitimate. You don't know if the price is being manipulated or not being manipulated so if there was market manipulation here would oversight fight have stopped it. Probably I mean almost certainly you know look you have insider trading on Wall Street anytime you're dealing being with a trade of value someone's going to be trying to corner that market and somebody else is probably going to be trying to cheat that market you have price fixing in Li- bore for I mean you know you have market manipulation in regulated. Exchanges Regulation doesn't stop one hundred percent of that but would regulation in the CRYPTO currency few market result in a much more transparent and trustworthy marketplace without a doubt without a doubt if the allegations in this the research that there was market manipulation. If they're true who was harmed the Adrenalin junkies. Gambling Junkies the people that love Bitcoin for what it is. They're not harm. They make some money they lose some money. None of it's real to them to begin with just pick themselves up and start trading again. They don't care. The people who were harmed were people who went into their bank and took out dollars and went and bought bitcoin on an exchange because they thought this was the future and then they lost it and they're plenty of stories like that people who got snookered who got taken in those people lost real money and they were cheated out of that money That's all for today. Tuesday November fifth the Journal is a CO

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"Welcome back to the speedy, Eric, I'm rko who's Dan more in and I am joined for this momentous occasion. We finally saved the podcast, I'm joined by my co hosts guy English is here. I don't think we could've saved it at a better time. That's true. That's true. It was right down to the wire there. John moltes is also here. Hi, john. I'm a little concerned because there's a guy standing behind me in some sort of, like metal outfit with the Cape and he's got a really weird haircut. I think it's probably fine. I don't think it's. Something about something about saving all all the multi verse. But I told him you or whatever. Start making stop making deals when you drunk dude. I can make them. Non-binding remember when you became a famous blues player. Got to stop doing this that which season was that. Yes, that's Uber. Natural. Sure. We didn't they do legends episode to the guitar. Famous. Yeah. Yeah. If you're just tuning in this is cast. All right. We are actually here to talk about the traveling dead threes. I knew those come back to bite me. And I would have forgotten all about it. Oh man. What a great show. How wonderful it lasted more than six episodes? They're like I said season three six episodes episodes of time travel show. And that's what really hard to take off to get into. Yeah. That's true. That's true. We are not here to talk about time, traveling dad. Except incidentally, we are here, however to talk about the finale to season, seven of ERO episode twenty two entitled you have saved this city, which is an interesting counterpart to believe. We actually I episode one is not called you have failed the city. It's just called pilot. But I feel like if it had a title, it probably would have been that. Yeah. Easy. Interestingly enough, that was never the title of an episode apparently in seven seasons. So they really missed one there. Next year last last episode of next year in Star City next. Yes. So we are here to discuss the season. Seven finale and is a big episode. I think so we've got a lot to do. We're in divan. We've also got some stuff to talk about at the end of the episode, but yes, stay tuned. Stay tuned, all the way through for some news. Actual episode had a lot of stuff to talk about after their episode to. Yeah. That is also true. That is so it was a lot going on there. All right. So I have elected to do the recap this week and here we go the we pick up, basically Seguin right out of the previously package to where we left our heroes last week on the roof of c- of SAP with a helicopter and a bunch of cops, rush in and basically tell them to, to give up there are, you know, they're all pissed off because they're Aero's dead. Cops downstairs, and even though all tells them to talk to our good friends. Sergeant biff beings. -ly sergeant Biggs. Lease unconscious in an ambulance. No said they're all under arrest. I'll shoots in an explosive erica's Ali doesn't react well to being arrested and the whole team jumps off the building in unison, because of course, they all have ropes that they can swing down on, which is great. I think if there was a sponsor this week, it would be a rope swing a building with not yet. They did not bid high enough, but they were okay? All right. So warrants out for all of their arrests under their actual identities. The police are obviously kind of pissed off, Felicity, is trying to figure out where Miko has the rest of the gas, but. Emiko's figured out a way to block our velocity was tracking them before. Fortunately, the team is called in some backup in the form of Curtis and laurel who show up. Of choose. So the this is where we sort of get the flashbacks in this episode are much more intertwined than usual with a little bit of a tip of the hat, to, I think the season two finale in particular, which features these very intertwined back. So we have our we have our future plot coming to ahead at the same time as our present plot. So I'm going to bounce back and forth in the future. Everybody also gets arrested. But one of the robots hands me a knife, which he throws into another robot Elena goes house on one of the robots just beats the crap out of it. Because of heroin archers predictive algorithm news. There moves except it does not know another robot apparently shooting them in the face. That, of course, turns out to be Connor the layer is burned, but me knows someplace they can go to hide. Meanwhile, Rene and William are marched Igam point by a robot and Rene explains that the plan is for the data's the robots to enforce martial law, and basically kill everybody with a criminal record, fortunately, Zo bills, the mouse, they actually see. Let's see them are, and some of them. Stormtrooper thing going on where you can't fit into the uniform and yet whatever there's, there's a question about that. Because definitely some of them are. Bullets. Yeah. Exactly. Well, the ones that kill robots are bullets. But the one thing humans actually just Leslie, it's totally fine. This is brought to you by sentient. Back in the present. That's how they saw they sold the gun crisis. That's how they did that is wonderful. I loved it with felt that we finally figured out what was on that piece of paper that already signed. Back in the present. Oliver tells listen, they knows how to break the cycle of violence by helping Emiko redeem herself. Otherwise, we'll never be safe for the family. The team finds out someone call down ball a bomb threat ball a ball. Oh man. If they call it in a tennis ball threat way of just the guy for that. Sports. Sports master calls rest. What's master? Getting tennis racket. Nikolay equipped to deal with threats. I loved it just leaving all the jokes out on the court. That is where sports master also leaves his jokes. So the third place by untraceable number very suspicious. And they conclude that MacOS trying to maximize the casualty count by basically getting everybody into that one small plaza. That's in the middle of Star City Curtis. Simplicity Mansa track the where the detonation is coming from the show up as shows up at the scene Dina fights, the cops so that they can try to evacuate the civilians. But the people also want the vigilantes to be locked up because they think they're at fault here. Fortunately, our good friend, Ben Turner, aka bronze seiger shows up punches some random civilian in the face. He's here to help. Because he's out on bail. Definitely. Yeah. I think that's probably a parole violation. I, I know that it is. Okay. All right, good. We have an expert that's important. Let's just not interrogate. Why'd you on notice? Keep going. So the bombs are actually located in drones and they get start deploying gas and basically just killing people. I'll he can't shoot them down because that will basically make it worse. And he gets by to, they freeze them. Fortunately, he bought he brought his freezing arrows. So totally fine. I don't know how those areas they're awesome. I'm cool with it. The flashes all of that freezing tech. So. Lasers. Right alvia if she if she said you to punch them. Boxing glove. Arrow. Does he have that, though? Does he have that always to make that from things that he finds her? I guess I don't know anyways. He's fashioning on the scene. He made just to take out most of the drones, but he's not fast enough because people have already been injured. And of course, our good friends of are blamed for the attack Oliver things, however, that it's not over Emiko still got cards, the play laurel backs up because she's emiko's only used a fraction of the cygnus. So the target is still a question. Curtis has devised some sort of freezing chamber to stop the drones, John mentions that JJ is getting evacuated to argue safe house and adds Zoe and Ben's son Connor to the mix, as well the team divides and conquers, the two sites that they have narrowed it down to the water treat and play in the convention center. Curtis glibly suggest, nobody die in the future, the team regroups at the bunker or sorry at the nightclub me as nightclub a hideout thing. Felicity explaining, she put a back door in the system, so it wouldn't find me, her DNA is not on file so they can use that as basically a way to upload virus. There's only one place to do it. It's at the checkpoint into the Glades, but everyone's too recognizable except me and Williams. So they have to go in the present. Oliver uses Curtis's technology to stop cygnus trying to track back, where detonations coming from there a bunch of new targets but they're all wired to the same detonator, which is at Plummer, TEK, aka Queen consolidated. This is all part of tearing down the Queen family. Legacy Virgil are Irish leprechaun. Sorry. It's really does lay it on racist tells that Moco sites or compromise. The circle wants to blow up the remaining bombs now because the as closing insure they're around somewhere, and they're sort of tension between profit and chaos in the ninth circle. Everybody in nine circles, where Emiko is taking this little bit too personally. But yeah, she says the city is going Berman her families to blame. So I don't know why they would think that. The team is in the server McQueen consolidated. And the relay for the detonator is nearby. Oliver gives ROY an arrow that is going to take out the detonator and then goes off alone in the future. Felicity is working on tech to help me and William Rene diner are worried flip promise. She would have the kids live normal lives and going to be watching over, get it watching overs or kids did get it. You see what I did the mom time. And they get it again now that you're saying, ROY gives me a- presumably, all these bow and arrow and the President Ali fights in just dig ROY Enron. Cyber also fighting in just ROY shoots the relay device, the rest of the ninjas get shot by Rene and the cops who have showed up along with our good friend, surging biff billings, Bingley, who has come around and also come around. Yeah. He's conscious. He's on there. Side told them what you did. So whatever, moving the relay has been disabled, which means all the remote bombs are down. But the one device in the building is still active. And of course, Oliver needs to confront Emiko and tries to detonate, the bomb the Bill detonate all the bombs, but the relays working Oliver gives her a second chance for it's too late in the future of the team's going through the checkpoint Mia, basically, through in the virus, the knocks out Dale who shows up, but William points out that they haven't succeeded because Archer is just rebooting back in the president wants to wanted emits the she he wanted to kill Emiko for letting Robert Di, and because it started the cycle of violence. And he's sort of basically, puts the death of emiko's mother on, on her because of the her allegiance to the knife circle. And he basically gives her at option to redeem herself or or kill him if she's going to do it. There are a bunch of nine hundred ninjas show up, and then Virgil and some other lady, who we don't know immediately. Basically, says, yes, your name is Beatrice, but she says, if you're not gonna kill them, we will gladly of light back in the future. The they have five minutes before the are back online, and they decide the only way to take down Archer is destroy the wall between the Glades and Star City. Fortunately, each control tower is just lined with explosive, which, I guess, is a thing. You knew. And they're all explained feature ad. It was not in the release notes. It was even better. They're all linked together so you can just blow up the entire wall. In one fell swoop? Great, sir. We're gonna get those walled on. We have to keep putting his bombs in them. He's just a huge fan, so was. They have detonated from inside the towers, so Mia says. Archer can do it. Sure. Yeah. Let's go with that. Back in the present this, this mysterious feet figure is introduced as Beatrice apparently council circle and they're not really thrilled about the direction Emiko in this. So they're making him personnel change, which comes in the form of a knife thrown into Emiko stomach. Here's your pink slip fight fight fight in Hewlett by season. Seven the boardroom shenanigans have been replaced by shady, boardroom shenanigans? Multinational criminal organization. I mean corporations criminal enterprises. Yeah. We then get an intercut sequence of mea going up to the tower and blowing it up as all Emiko fight their way out Beatrice tells Virgil detonate, the building and Miko fights, Beatrice Mia has a pretty good. Scene, where she crashes through the door of the tower which was pretty dope and inputs a sets a bomb, and she's expecting to sort of go out in a hail of glory, but William has given her sixty seconds. Oliver takes care of Emiko, who has been kicked through a wall at this point, she's not in such great shape and Emiko tells emits go tells Oliver that he needs to hide Felicity, and the baby because she is basically seeing to it that her his family will never be safe and her dying words that she wanted to be a Queen. I soon she meant like the family not like tween of the roads. The, the alternate title of the subset was, yes. Queen. In the future of the Zeta backup mine Queen, you're Queen all along. Yeah. I wanted him to say that I say you were you were. These are back online, mea jumps down as the wall goes, boom. And we intercut with Ali jumping out the window of Queen consolidated, as it goes, boom. And him swinging down once again on his era rope. Kosheh. It's I was a little bit confused. But yeah, I had to rewind rewind a lot in this episode, especially with the captions on to try and catch things in our day. Newmont Palmer TEK has become a crater, but there are no civilian casualties. I guess, amazingly and the vigilantes are back on the good side of the law. Curtis is heading back to DC and he's going to propose to Nick. That's very exciting for him. Nick, Nick is his compass. The Cup that we thought might be a bad guy is I, I never bought in just to be clear. I think the record shows I thought you nuts. You know, I feel like I feel like that was teased. I think that was deliberately teased as a false flag. All right. All right. You know what you could think we were thinking we were nuts is. I mean we've all been watching the same show at right? Let's see. Roy is meanwhile, gonna go tone for killing a bunch of? What do I tell you? But I guess he's not going to find the it's unclear. Yeah, it sounds like and he doesn't want to admit it. Dali. Doesn't want to tell you that he chewed on his fister. All infelicity, tell people that they are taking a step back from the vigilantly lifestyle. And all he says, though, we hoped his legacy would be saving the city, his greatest legacies actually the team. Then we have a really kind of I'm going to say we a really kinda stupid bit of backfill about the four pillars of euro as which is just all to tie in a bow. The whole thing with him having tattoos earlier in the season. Yeah, it felt like that was all right. We gotta do that. We've got to check time we got thirty seconds for that. I really didn't need them to mention that it was differently. Not one Ali coining, the term whatever the market for the market. Why don't we why don't we just call it the Mirka for Doug. Like that's totally logical thing. It's so weird mentioned earlier in the season. I mean you know. It's outside of his character like, yeah, it was single many other people could come up with the name or whatever. We'll just get. It was also say thing where you so glad nobody at least suspect. Like suggested in that moment. Let's talk. Oh kit. 'cause that would've really felt like gilding. The lily. Well, they should have gotten really drunk and, and then he should've said the market for, and then they should have gotten to twos. And then it would have been. Would it be more sense? And then they wake up the next day, like, oh my God. What did we do? Punish off that that bottle of vodka that he keeps in his footlocker. Just picture guys got guys got great. Yeah. We ain't going. Chiefs bar. I think that, that's one of those places where sometimes this show. It's still falls prey to that problem of spoon. Feeding sometimes or it's like a adv remember this thing that we mentioned, like, if you just named like the whatever compassion courage, such like. That would have been great that wouldn't find could've left it that anyways, I I'm distracted because we're getting close. They, they hope this isn't the last time they're all in the bunker together, it's the end of an era in the future. The team in the future is watching the walls coming down. And they passed the torch the older group has the torch to the younger generation with Zoe taking over the Canaries and the older team is going to take the heat for blowing up the wall and become fugitives. William mentioned Royal never really told me how you got on that island says it's a long story, I guess the occasion being the exactly what we just saw. Felicity. However, before she goes wants to do something to honor Oliver in the present, Felicity, and Oliver our regret that they can't tell the rest of the team about the baby. But they say when the ninth circle threat is over. And then we have a little bit about the cycle of, of heroes, and we have original team ERO moment in the bunker, as Felicity Oliver turn the lights out. Yeah. So wait. What our guest is Diggle know about the kid Diggle. Does we mentioned the next the next? Yeah. Okay. Right. Felicity, he's already knows though. They've Oliver I think told him. He knew I just like just the way he was in the frame when they said that I just threw me off a bit. Yes. I agree. Felicio Oliver turn off lights in the bunker, Diggle takes them to their new safe house in a neighborhood basically just filled with ex spies argues DIA. They describe it as temporary. But I guess we kind of no, that's, that's not the case, which makes it a little bit sad Diggle. Actually that actually brings us to today's sponsor. Okay. Simon mctavish real estate agents to the spy community. Glad it was that, and not mom juice. No, no. Not gonna. Joey, please don't call it that. Yeah. Please don't call wine use you. But I did like the idea of just a neighborhood full of. X. Buysse. Isn't it? The prisoner basically. Much next season. All of our fights bouncing giant, giant bouncing ball. He's to do. Threats. It's like I was made for this. That we both based for that joke, right there. Tells dig to take care of her bunker, no food by the monitors and Oliver and get a bunch of time together since they never took their honeymoon. Basically, they get montage time including these sequence. We already saw me as birth. But then we get a little bit of spending time with his daughter. Oliver wishes William were here. And Oliver says he wants to talk to Williams grandparents about possibly getting shared custody of this is kind of the new life that they're living. Mia's going to need her older brother, then there's a sound and Oliver grabs a knife to go investigate. And I actually this point I'd already called this was going to happen. But yes, it's the monitor our good friend from elsewhere old, and all he looks at him and says now and we get again in a little bit of spoon feeding, but fair, I guess it was like half a season ago, a flashback to Oliver making a deal that will basically ensure that Kara and berry survive. The sponsor could be the place that cuts the monitors here. Yes. Good. They missed us. Now. They're very they get it. Exactly right. Cuts forty twenty. They do it with lasers. The Montgomery says the monitor says, you, you, you, you will SIS me as we seek to prevent the inevitable, which all points out sound like a great deal. But the monorails was pretty upfront saying that I have watched, you die confirming that it is during the crisis. But in addition to him being necessary. The monitor also points out that Mia is important to this as well. We get a last sort of touching moment between Oliver and Felicity, and Oliver, basically, has to weigh the needs of the many against the needs of his family and he needs to go with the monitor tonight in the future. At Felicity is at all gravestone, and she tells me and William that, you promised their father, she would protect both of them until they need it anymore. And now she's leaving for good and not grief student says he dies in twenty nineteen. Back in the present. We he Oliver extracts that promise of protecting William and Mia, we have a again know touching moment where they say that they're the best parts of each other and on flippity promises to find him again. And in the future after leaving Mia and William, the monitor shows up to Felicity that where they're gonna go. They can't come back from. And she says she's been waiting to see all of her for a long time. And that is where we can conclude this episode in the season finale, which felt a lot like a series finale. That fellow at the end of I mean even just the title gives it like, yeah. That feels very final kind of thing. Good work. Congratulations. I mean, the technically sort of kill off both Oliver and Felicity not quite in the time you shenanigans notwithstanding. We do on as much as it can be. Yes. Exactly. So I guess most assuming most of next season is taken up with probably future stuff and, and crisis crisis lead up, which is I have no idea. I really don't know what the next season is going to look like that is a big open question here. How many of there were things that I expected to happen in this episode that did not happen? So, for example, I really thought they were gonna kill bronze tiger. Yes. That I thought they were gonna handle that in this episode, but instead we have him dig offers him a chance to go work at ARGUS. And he says he wants to go spend time with his son is nice, but we know in the future. They Connor has been raised by dig, and so gave us a setup to write like a Diggle actually proactively. So you've got a son Connor go pick them up and get him into the spot which immediately I was like, well, that's nice. That's good and made sense it bounced, I wouldn't immediately ask for that, right? Because he's like people. But I really felt like well that's it. It's going to bite us. Yeah. No, I totally thought he was, but he is, is alive and kicking as of the end of this episode. So there's a question of do we, we see him again later? Crying. I enjoyed his fight scenes possibly the most. Well, his. I mean yeah, sure we've talked before actually doing. Yeah. Right. He's an actual photo. Get special benefits. The other. I think all of them have done surprisingly. Well, I mean, I am always very well, pleased to see how many of the actors are doing their stunts in those fight scenes. Yeah, I sometimes is a little evident like in there was definitely not all the time. They started doing where they blur faces. And sometimes you like they kind of cover it because the hair is like moving around, or they're wearing hoods whatever, but especially laurel and Mia. It's no most notable. I think because of their the they don't wear masks, most of the time. So I think that it becomes this. I notice that in this episode with me, like at one point in one of her scenes or face. It's definitely, it's not double. But yeah, I think for the most part, they try to get them to do as much stuff as they're comfortable doing. And some of them are definitely more comfortable than others. Mia distant. Crazy stuff though. It totally makes sense that you'd new like an actual professional doing stuff. Yeah, right. No. I think that's not a thing. That's the thing that teaching a an actor is probably a lot harder to do. It's like not like throwing punches and swinging stuff like she's like Chico's flying a lot. Yeah. I liked the teen in particular with Oliver and Emiko brief, visit it is with them fighting together kind of doing a lot of the same moves at the same time. That was a really nice, nicely shot nicely choreographed scene. I wish we got a little more of that. I was looked to fight fight fight between them. And it sort of supports my previous notion that like he can win. Yeah, I agree. That was took care of it. Pretty handily. Yeah. So. Right. So what was your guys opinion of? I mean, so we get Amoco's redemption ark in this episode. She does ultimately choose the right side, although kind of at the last minute winner, hands after getting stabbed in the gut. Choose it or does, she just or is that choice because they've because she helps Oliver fight the, the minions of, and she warns him more importantly, about the nine street. Right. Yeah. Okay. So that, that is that's true. I mean I know she didn't go out with hatred in a heart, but yeah. Like it wasn't clear to me, like they show up to kill basically. I thought both of them like, if you're not going to kill them, we'll kill him. But it didn't seem like she was. Necessarily. You you're taking it as she's just trying to protect yourself. Well, certainly seemed like a part of it, right? Like they get surrounded. That's very nice situation. It's not like it's not like Veda govern the emperor there's like a. Right. Right. Yeah. I mean I don't know. I mean that part of it that whole her her turning at the end. I'm not sure. Not sure it was the best part of it. In terms of how it was set up there was, he spends a she spends a lot of time posturing about how Oliver needs to pay in the family. There's a lot of talk that leads like right up to that. And then all of a sudden no, no. Sorry. Yeah. I the I mean a I'm glad that he didn't have to kill her which we've just a lot. It was all everything. Oliver, doesn't is episode. I think is actually of indication of Kim. All of the growth is head over the course of the series. Yeah. He actually actually hero in this episode. Yes, present, which is nice because it was underscored last episode when he basically, has the epiphany of like, look can't can't do what I always do which is basically stabbed these people. With actually try to be a hero and he goes out totally like a hero in this, including the way, winning the monitor shows up say, okay, I gotta do this. That's the point part of me wonders, if that is why the monitor shows up at this moment is because of her has achieved that, that level of hero them better to get him out of the time line before he screws it up. Right. Exactly. Actually news. Man. This could take any right now the ghost of Adrian chase shows up. Yeah. I mean, I think that. It is. That is what makes it feel like a series finale to write is like is really all culmination of that journey. To me. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Even the way it closes on his face and the lights, go out. Yes. Yeah. Well, yes, showing the bunker down. I mean, even though that's not the original layer is close enough. And it shows up again, in the future, obviously, but it's still it's still kind of a big deal. It does leave me. Some question marks about what happens between the present and the future in terms of I figured the sort of difficulty. I think they encountered is in the future. Everybody hates vigilantes. And so we need to believe there's a rationale behind that. And we don't see that because of the fact they had to, I feel like they wanted to go out on a high note. Yeah. It would be rough to be like everybody hates vigilantes again. And now. Sorry. No. Yeah, that's true. I hadn't thought about that. Get them right there like basically doing chemical warfare on people blowing up buildings. Like everything is there for them to be vilified. Right. And which is interesting. And I also think that it's I wonder wonder just sort of behind the scenes inside baseball, like we know Emily records is not coming back next season. I don't think we know what the present how many of the rest of the cast returning I kind of wondered if they had given them all me be an out, or at least several them out to be like, look we'd love to have you back Nick season. Fully understand ten episodes. It's not a full year's worth of work. If you wanna go be released from your deal to go look for other options like we're gonna let you do that. But, you know, obviously you're welcome to stay if you want this is total conjecture, on my part, but I can understand why, you know, not everybody necessarily sign up for ten episodes. Part of me wonders if next year is basically a back door pilot for. Little estero. Yeah. Green arrow twenty forty nine thing. Yeah. I just I can't I just have a hard time seeing that, but okay. I it's not hard to see based on the way this episode ends with them. I think because of the whole like we're passing the torch onto you Mia bone air like whether or not that would be successful. I have no idea, right? But there's also the open question of what the implications of crisis are because. Right. Awad exactly. Yep. Right. And I think that's I think that's very possible. And I'm guessing by this point since we're recording this Tuesday at ten o'clock, but none of us has watched the season finale of the flash. But I still a few episodes back. I, I have heard there is some else world tie in there as well. But I am so I'm kind of curious to see also were that goes because I think that will have larger implications in terms of the overall where we go with this. Yeah, right. Yeah. I am curious. I mean, how many eight to ten next year, ten episodes tend so like four with future people. I think it's going to be entertained, again possibly. But I don't know. So what? So all these just going to be like often round the universe with the mind. That's the thing. Yeah, that's we don't we don't know yet. I mean, maybe they sent him to like recruit a bunch of other different heroes. I don't know. I mean well, he's probably gotta go. Say Hello to bat women. Yeah. That's true. Train, he's going to try and trainer and sheet Samaras, enter. It's not gonna work. That would be funny. Actually, if you try to same thing, and it totally backfired. Right in the face. Yeah, I already know of it. Yeah. I don't I don't know what the it doesn't seem like there is much of a as far as taking, Felicity off the board. We kind of know what happens to her in the intervening time. So we don't really need that story. Nor does nor does it seem like there's a lot of story there because though, she still acting as a vigilante she is staying off the grid. Oliver's gone presumably, which leaves what dig? Dinah, Rene and maybe dig is not showed up in the future yet. And he's okay, good. We don't know. And there's no there's been no positive indication as his fate is many several times. But neither neither is alive or dead. I know we've got the live chat him here. But chef off into this corner for second. Sure. Yeah. Or you going to conspiracy, John quietly. Thank you. In the corner. What is the corner have adore? Better and better. Much actually and in the livestream guys. Nice and private. What do we think about John Stewart slash Diggle? Oh next year. There's a monitor stuff going on a whole bunch of new super wing. This shows obviously gone. You mean him like converting vaguely does he get the ring? Oh I am a hundred percent here for that. Sure would be fun. First of all, Dave Ramsey deserves a show. I feel like he can carry a show and, and he's earned it. And he's definitely earned it. I would love to see. I have no idea what he green lantern show would look like on the CW budgets. But no not. But you know, you could be on the flash in legends until you figured out kind of thing. And they do supergirl. Yeah. Sure. That's true. Well, they know true. I. About the, the how you have to budget. A ring that makes like giant, scoops, and hammers and beats pizza Baggies though. I don't know. I don't know. We'll ask Joe steel he'll hotel. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, yes, exactly. We could find out, I say that not to me the environments like bopping around in space is not cheap. Right. Well, if I Star Trek just beams down to the same place. I was gonna say, if you start drinking Star Trek model it works, fine. Just go out of those rocks in the desert people with weird forehead ridges. It's fine. Yeah, I would be totally on board for that. And I think that would make a big difference, particularly in the potentially in the crisis because I love dig, but like. Those bullets probably aren't going to work very well. Yeah. I mean you can have all the guns in the world. Yeah. Oliver got rid of all the guns city they need more. Yeah. Like a matrix style room. Yeah. No, I think that's interesting. We don't really get Rene as the connecting the dots on Rene Zirk for how he ends up mayor of the Glades. No, but I I mean I can see it. I give you that the member it when he was teaching kids self defense with something because you're the community organizer slash getting like low key city, politics and ending flick, a big shot. But there is a there is like a whole thing with the Glades getting walled off to which feels like kind of a big difference. Isn't like, I don't know, maybe you can just sort of hand wave that, but there is some story that could be told there. But there's a question of whether they're interested in telling that story. And I don't think anybody cares about the titular building that wall just fell down. I think you need a character story. Right. Sure. Yeah. So you need somebody to anchor it to. Yeah. Including me, who, that would be any of our remaining characters. Of them. I think ROY is your strongest character, but he's the one who's least involved because he basically goes to an island. He just went to meditated. Because he is leeann you for twenty years, you know what the only people that guys killed our police officers. All right. But yes, he did he killed. I remember that he killed the bureauc- guy like the police officer when he like, man. He is a bad run. He really hates uniforms. And you know what? It's he didn't mention it. I kind of wished it mentioned it. Yeah, it's also funny. I killed those two guys you kill the other guy too. So. There's also. So that's that's you know that's his, you know. The guy like Robert kills again in the raft that some these. These, he's gonna spend a whole bunch of years, not mentioning. And then that guys kid is gonna come back and try and grace. Well, it's interesting do because I was noticing during the last fight scenes that, even though they had in this sort of goes to, again a logistical thing. All he runs around without his hood on all season, but the rest of the crew still wears their masks all the time. Even though everybody knows who they are. I assume that it's I on double reasons because having having Hanes do a lot of part cool. It is, is a hood on probably a lot tougher to, to fix and post. There's a few things. There's a few things. I, I don't know. I think that are a little weak about this of just there's a whole lot of technical mumbo jumbo. Sure. And there's some weird weirdly bad blocking in the future. Yes, there's, there's that scene where they like they're talking. They're walking down that hallway, which, I think they shot way too much of in that hallway and they're talking loudly about their plan. And then they go around the corner, and then they throw like a couple of canary cry things off a guys leg and stuff. Yeah. And then, like, and then the, the guards who they have. Guess just walked by our suddenly surprised in fall down. A lot of that did not make any sense to me in terms of reality. But those were somewhat minor complaints. Right. So I think he thinks focuses on five fifty fighting. Yeah. I think possibly to maybe to the exclusion of like ingesting shots like that, right. That was where he she tax Mariko, and he flips it over and the camera just as a whole with them. Yeah. Yeah. Was actually sometimes moves the camera bit too much for me. But I was like that, actually. That was interesting. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That wasn't. I didn't notice that one. I thought that was one of the better shots. There's a lot of people jumping off things that are blowing up in this episode right? Some of it was kind of cheat was a little bit cheesy. Laker, both of them like repelling down to wherever they were, but they handle that transition with particularly with, with me, very well. She's, she's jumping thing it's exploding. And then and then they do a nice transition to her landing on the ground. Yeah. Yeah. Even the I wonder I wonder where all the rubble went. I always wonder what they're swinging from. But I don't know. It's also that problem like I guess for them up there. I don't know. There's some there's some very Corning lines in this episode. It's a little it felt like there was a lot to get done like. Yeah, I was amazed when I got to the, like day, Newmont part with Oliver and Felicity. And I was like, oh man they're gonna wrap this up like two or three minutes. And I looked at the clock of there's ten minutes left in this episode. Right. Yeah. All of the action was pretty much packed up front like when they started doing the demo stuff. I was like I thought maybe I should have looked more closely. I didn't I don't like looking at the time because they don't want to give it away alot whenever boilers, but I was starting to think that, like, I would run out of time to watch it before we had to record. Yeah. I like this is just like ninety minutes because it felt like it was packed. And it didn't feel overly long to me. It felt they made having having. If anything, I think it was the early part was rushed. Yeah. I haven't even feel that bad about that. Because, like I think, because the virtue of them picking up where they left off last week meant that they had already done a lot of kind of the setup. But yet there's a lot of back and I just feel like some of the future stuff in the action. I dunno. I mean like. No, no. I mean, like I feel like very like EMMY goes transition was sort of short changed in, and I feel like the future stuff action was kind of like hand wavy done the cops coming in why. Yeah. And also that like yeah. That flip. There's a couple of one line just like they, haven't they haven't because they need to happen. And they need to happen fast right on the cop thing I liked beings leash showing up there, and it was like it was just apprising seen that also felt good in the terms of the way it like legitimize the vigilantes again. But yeah, I mean I just point you've gone back and forth so much. I would have preferred it, if it costs, look, we don't care. We've had don't care, particularly the matter anymore. But then you can have Billingsley Beatty for the next season. It'd be Quinton again. We said it to going to low stakes but. Yeah. But the the one line that I did not that I thought was fantastic was when. Felicity said to Diggle does anyone ever told you this? You always know what to say. I haven't been told. I like I like I love to their lasting together in the house. Yes. Because you can't how, how emotional the actors are all getting, but they manage to use it. In a nice moment of, you know. Saying how much they care about each other, and it was really sweet. David has like a legit. Big smile on his face. When he's saying he loves you Dolly. Yeah. Right. Doesn't even say that. He says, like annual something. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I, I love that a lot. I thought that was great. It was nice to get I felt like they gave a lot of original team aero moments in this episode. And I was glad for that because it is, again, a nice callback to, to the the original season and all that and felt like a fitting book end because, you know. I wouldn't count out the possibility of seeing a moment next season. But it seems like they're gonna have a lot to do. And they realized maybe we won't get to it. So we should do now, right? No, it'll be rush moment of editing. I loved it. Again in another lever to see them. One all he was. Telling me how much you was into since they first met. I like that. I don't know if nice like is. Who's planning all cool. Well, yeah. You sooner probably good advice for life in general kitchen. The jet I wish I had, I wish. I wish we hadn't. The season finale where you are to, to get slayed forgot about that. Yeah. And I was like. Yeah. And I was like that. That was the first time I told you, I love you. It was a ploy to defeat. My, my greatest enemy. Remember those good times. You were so sad. When I said, psych? Awkward moment at the anniversary party right? The they also picked up some musical cues from the early seasons. Yes, they had that sort of synthesizer, why don't even know what to call that because I don't know anything about music, but. The kind of whatever that machine is it's the same machine, but it's different sounds. And then, and then they, they did a pop song. They did a pop song about that, too. I was like this is interesting choice. Very CW. Right. Well, it's, it's old CW. Yes. Right. Yeah. It doesn't seem like it's modern Z W. I liked it to me. And maybe I'm cynical anything but they spent. Oh, they spent some money on this. Like they let them splash out to have like an old school pity Artis to put this into backing thing, Felicity Holly, and we're going to send them out in style, and I liked it because they need a song. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what would it be like computers beating in the background or something? Gotta songs. That's true. Yeah. Do we have any last stuff to wrap up before because we're going to we're going to, to part ritual because we're going to rank, we're gonna give our ritual stuff and then we're going to do a seasonal view and maybe do a season ranking? So guy. I didn't ask you to prepare that. But I'm gonna put I have I know you do my back pocket. But if nobody's getting anything else, specifically here. I will know one thing that it was brought to me by our friend, Tony Clark who's in the chat room right now. And somebody else mentioned this, too, I think, in the on Twitter, that the Zeta Zoll come from, like, DC comics. They're mentioned in Batman beyond, I guess, in the in the cartoon, and there was also a cartoon called the Zeta project, so there is kind of a tip of the hat to that DC animated universe future stuff. It's funny too, because there's a lot of different future stuff across all the DC shows between both the cartoons and the stuff we've seen in legends and stuff that's mentioned in the flash. And I always wonder if that stuff reconciles, because like the flash the headline from the newspaper in the what's shows up the first episode, right? Or pretty early in the first season is like vanishes in crisis. But it's twenty twenty four which is always puzzled me a little bit because they're timeline is a little. Crisis. Is it a different way? They changed the timeline. It's changed right. Yeah. The other thing is crisis could work crossed time and space. Right. Like sure. Like go get the Barry from twenty twenty four. He's better than all the. Yes. Fair. It's fair like when he vanishes. His kind of it all depends on. It's about perspective. I will say that is one of the things the moments that I remember that sticks with me from the comics, that are at in the eighties is just this idea that berry runs so fast that he skips through time, like a stone skipping across the water. And just like every once in a while, you know, after he disappears in Wally is the flashy like he just he just like flies through. But I was also thinking about this week because it was reminded I won't spoil too much for legends, but Zari mentions again that she's from the future in which argues goes evil. And I don't and it's, it's not it's mentioned in this episode. It's not that far off. And I'm kind of curious about like banned, like Lila still in charge. Like, how is that going down? Maybe they're maybe they finally go evil because all the interest rates, go negotiated retirement community. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right. It's hard to excu- this would take over the world. It's really hard to, to deal with that. That's toughie. No one went next door is like in that neighborhood. Stop shooting out all my lights. Stock turning your whites on. Probably still racist. It's always gonna be racist, right? What you said next door and I was thinking, like food delivery, too hard to find the houses. I don't. That how that worked all right? Shall we read this finale rate this? John. We're just doing that. We're doing this episode for this app yet. I john. Yeah. Okay. All right. I'm gonna I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go biff again. And I the first time I watched I watched this episode twice in the first time I watched it, I was tempted to give it a John junior because they ended up paying a little bit more attention, get distracted towards the end of the episode. And they paid more attention to the beginning. I was kind of like has a little loose and things are happening all fast and I wasn't as impressed. But then when I sat down and watched it a little bit more deliberately the second time I enjoyed the tail end of it, particularly a lot more and thought that was so strong. Moved it up to a clear. Biff for me. Okay guy. I'm sympathetic to the junk junior feeling I feel like a can't give it anything but a bit to be honest, sort of, it's sort of the, the return of the king thing. Right. You know. Rushing. Biff. I mean was recognizing what it took to get to this point bright? And it was a high degree of. A lot crammed in there. The pacing was a little weird but I mean it's what forty two minutes, and they did a lot, and where they compressed is where I am. If I had to make those similar, I would have made the same ones come down. I don't care about why they should cop showed up fine. Like I can complain now. But would I rather have like more minutes of the people that have the characters that have gone to love? Yes. And I think they did the right thing and making that, that call. It's a little bit of a weirdly structured episode, but ultimately, it works. Minute made me happy and emotional for these people in these characters. For a long time. I guess it worked thought they stuck the landing. Yeah. So it's a bit. I grew both of you. I'm gonna go. Three biff saw around. I understand the John junior temptation, the temptation of John g. Sounds bad. But again, it's an overstuffed episode. There's a lot to accomplish here. It does feel a lot like a series finale with the exception of the whole Oliver's, fate, ultimately being unknown is kind of that makes it a little on task buying. Right. And we know more is coming about that. And that's the one thing that mainly keeps it from being like a really satisfying series finale, which is tough. And I think they did a nice job as they could wrapping things up with Felicity. And I'm glad that they end up together, for whatever value of that you consider, I think that's, that's as it would have been a lot sadder, if not the case. But I think they managed to pack a lot in here. And they give a lot of breathing room to Oliver, Felicity, at the end which I think is what multi-million makes this episode of success is, is that is, we need our day, Newmont's. We need our are unraveling of all these plot threads. And so getting them to get quality time together at the end is really important. Also really important. I think to stab Oliver's relationship with Mia brief as it is. And it's not just that he like was, like, all right. You had your baby seal later like having him actually involved in her life in, in clearly, making it that much of a harder choice for him to leave is really critical in, in sort of selling that. So I thought that was well done. All right. That out of the way shall we do a little season rating? Yeah. Have you guys looked at the life chat? Yeah. I have all bit. Yeah. James, whenever he talks us on Twitter. I hope I can if we can't use your name out, bleep it out after James Farner as being kind enough to actually aggregate all of our ratings. Oh, wow. For the whole season. So he reports this came in over the teletype just now, you know what it's funny we joked about teletype. I'm not joking. This IRC which may as well be. Okay. So for John moles twenty season and twenty two. John juniors to to giants. The other way the other way twenty bis and to John juniors for moult. Dan, you have nineteen and three John juniors and I have eighteen bits and four. John juniors. John juniors was the Canaries episode which has since went back and watched again. And it's I was unfair. Lot of TV that day for some reason. That was unfair. So no as as James points out, then new. No, Alex's, Alex. Yeah. Not a single Alex and, and we haven't had a lot of Alex's to be fair. I mean. Yeah. But we also has to be extinct. He really gonna screw up. We're also pretty close in our. You gotta stab somebody to death. DJ -ing. Yeah. We're also pretty close in our assessment since we're like especially if guys retroactive. Not changing. It stands. Record. You can't it's not like you know, he can't go backwards yellow James close James points out. They didn't account for a principal. Good lease. Don't trump. Prince of these. Yeah. Do you know what that was one of our best alternate timeline? That isn't a not Thailand if you're not comfortable, please do. It's great. A lot of good shows and it's definitely with but you will also find us covering Pinza thieves and the membership. Yeah. And if you haven't listened to it, I'm not joking. I think that's one of my favorite episodes. It's, it's a good episode. The episode at the very least the episode is way better than prince of thieves. Don't watch the movie which is, which is not saying much, but. All right. With the science out of the way we should do you wanna guy? I'm going to turn this to you there where to season. Seven fall in your in your overall season rating. Okay. So by the math looks pretty good. I felt pretty good about it. I really have. But I'm giving Alex. Yeah. A lot of TV. I watched a lot of TV today. Well, yeah, whatever I'd watch TV, that's just remember, like I don't care about this, and it had little to do with the episode lot. More to do with my state of mind. Their fault. So okay, this always so hard to stack these, these seasons always, but I'm going to I'm going to do it. Clearly think this season as biff. Right. I think it's certainly stronger than last year. I the member. I don't know if I'm speaking at a school humans. But basically, I don't want to do the show. That's an exaggeration. But it is it really is an exaggeration. But like it was becoming homework, right? So. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Okay. I know I know what you mean. Now. Yeah. Sort of started. We started out with, like a different idea what we were going to do. And then we were like we need to focus and we're going to focus on this one show. Okay. Yeah. Like season four of like, oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm really glad we stuck to it because I think this season paid off. Yeah. Is it amazing? It's pretty good. And I think a lot of it has just dumb investment in these characters to, like, like stubbornness has paid off. Now that we've just we really enjoy it. Ranking them. Two one. Six seven. Or three. I don't know. Who is five five? I'm trying to do them by bad guy, basically. He's down for you. If you want. Malcolm Merlyn season to Slade. Wilson season three ratio goule season. Four Damian dark season. Five Adrian chase season. Six. Yes, I guess that kind of a yeah. Antis and seven EMMY co. Okay. So I think pretty uncontroversial Bley slate in. To one. I think. And then chase. Closely tied with Emiko. I think. And then let's say. D as dark Google. Okay. All right now, here's the thing. I might need that again. Literally sitting here with a pencil and paper I'm like, typing away, like Beijing text editor because. Got my note that open. I'm like, yes, what, what random string of numbers do. I wanna read, right? Yeah. So I left the numbers I'm just going with the villains. I think Slayton welcome very close. I'd probably give the edge deflate so season to season one chasing Emiko very close. I make. I don't think it's close. Do you prefer? He hates. I hate shape so much. Yeah. Like about it. The island blowing up a lot of the a lot of fun characters in there. But the twenty steps ahead. We just couldn't. Yeah. So Emiko in terms of villainous or just a billion equal affinity because better than chase. Oh, but they are in the second tier. And then we've got the dark in, like the third year and pulling up the beer we've got ghoul. All right. Who is notable forgiving us? One of my favorite characters Talia who's amazing. Yeah. Though. All right. Okay. John you wanna way in? Okay. Yeah, I think I got it and I'm doing, I'm going to do it in loose tears. These are not like we're all. I my first here is is two one seven. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And my second tier is six three. Okay. And then four and five that, right? Wait, wait, wait wait, which would know four is result? Or use race three Israelis. Then I gotta right, right? Oh, wow. Okay. Well, no eight no eight. Yeah. Who's foregin Daming dark? Yeah. Now flip those flip those two. So my middle tier is six four. My last year is three five. Okay. Yeah. 'cause I can't stand Adrian chest. Okay. I I'm I think we all agree to in one or the tops. I would also I think slot seven in after one I think so I mean I just I enjoyed this season. I did. I say that this is a anyway it only gets surprise, but clear biff season and enjoyed so much. The fact that the people who are running the show now enjoyed the seasons that we enjoyed and are doing so much to reflect that. So that's a huge win that really like all the little love letters tip of the hat like. Yeah, man. It was so good. It was. Seeing people have fun with this show again not thinking too seriously. While taking the characters seriously. If that makes sense like the they could approach it with some kind of levity and, and not be so onerous and, and Wadey. But they treated the characters with respect. Yeah. Which I felt was nice. It was good balance. I my my rating system break down a little bit there, because as I have written and I'm not convinced that because it's been so long since I watched them those seasons I have then the after seven I have five because I like Adrian James. I have four because I love Damian dark, even though that season is weak at times, but he is so good. Well, that's the thing that I think moves into into the middle group for me, and then I have season I have season six after that because I was so weird and disjointed remember when Michael Emerson was like the big bad for like the first half of the season. Yeah true. Yeah. It was kind of a mess. And then I put ratio goal at the bottom because season three is really bad. Yeah. Sorry Oliver shaving his head going evil. And just maybe it's better than I remember. But I remember better say to, to, to me to seven and then everything else. Elements of the rest of those so. All right. Well, that's good though. I'm glad we got to into Utah wrong this year. That's good. Yeah. No kind of super remain super curious about these eight. So we'll see how that plays with things. But I think we may see a very different show. I'm curious. Oh, just to sum it up haven't met everything. But by in the live chat room here. Seems to be that this season is to. Good job, everybody, we did good work. Saved this TV show on. All right. So. Okay. So that is wrapping up our coverage of season. Seven of aero. We are not going to do any superheroes we've this week because we figured we are super busy with all the stuff. However, we do have a little personal news. And it's a I think fair to say a little bit a little bit bitter sweet. I'm going. This is actually a little artsy. I'm getting a little. I am telling you this guy. Standing behind me is looking super weird, right? So where does he get that haircuts? He's tapping his foot. He's very impatient. So I we are announcing tonight, this is the final episode of the speedy aero cast. I know I know if feel weird just saying that out loud, but I mean obviously everybody knew this moment was coming because aero is ending next season. So now was going to happen then. But. Don't worry too much. We are not going away. And in fact, we are, as you might say, expanding our portfolio, we are going to be watching over all of you. All. We are launching. We, we didn't consider that as a name. Totally should've. We couldn't get anything, right? We landed in the right spot, but I think that would have been a strong identity. We'd even thought of it. So all right. We're not going anywhere. We are launching a brand new show. We will be covering superhero TV and movies of all stripes, and that will include season eight of era. We will be covering season. Eight of aero on our new show. But we're going to cover a lot of other stuff to sort of expanding. Our superhero sweep purview to talk about all the other shows that we love, and we will be kicking this off next week with I think basically covering agents of field. And so, I know we're one episode in already so I think we'll just do a two for next week in cover the episodes agents of shield and we're going to play around a little bit with our format, but we're gonna try to do something similar to what we've been doing here, where we sort of run through an episode or to discuss it. And then maybe take a broader view of discussing other superhero TV shows slash movies that are going on. And just our thoughts on them because, frankly, we just like talking to each other, and that's just an excuse for that. So you guys all get to listen in. We will also be. Soliciting your feedback in guys suggestion, we're gonna have a letters page. So if you would like to reach out and ask us to talk about something or ask us a question or if some comments like you can reach out to us, and we will talk about on the show. This is actually in line is a little more than line with what are rigid concept. We actually started the famously when we started before we started recapping era, we intended to do sort of an overall superhero show. We even recorded a couple. I'd never really have them. I think that pretty awful. Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily just like the rest of the. But maybe someday, I'll release him in the member fee. But we terribly out of date because it's like wanders. Record, scratchy sound. Early days of the incomparable, where we would take eight topic and cover like every single thing about that topic and. One. Plus, we didn't have a poor like there was no engine those jokes. Oh my God. Well did not like each other. It's true back then just doing it for the money, we were bitter enemies, why we started by gas together because that's what superheroes do John. Chat romance. How much TV we watch a week? I don't think any of us wanna cop to that. Talking about it. I'll give you my back number. But I'm not talking about how much TV which we. So we will be the show itself will be standalone show. No longer under the TV feed. Now, the good news is, if you are subscribe directly to the aero feed, you're just going to start getting the new episodes, whether you like it or not, there's a seamless transition. If you are subscribed to the overall TV show feed, so you get all the different flash casts, you will need to also subscribe to the new show, and of course, because we're standalone showed that means that you can support us directly with an incomparable membership. You can adjust your so rather than going to the TV. So the TV show, you can support our show directly and we really appreciate all of your support. We get very nice messages from you, folks. Always always completely thrilled to hear that people. Listen to actually like this. Love doing it so much. Yeah. And it's really nice that so many of you showed up in the chat room tonight to, to listen to the livestream so that really means a lot, and that's one reason. We're so excited to go on and do a show with a little bit wider view because you guys have emboldened us. So this is your fault is what I'm saying. Believing you. Emiko and this isn't this one's on you? And I guess the only thing left to announce about this show is, of course, the name of this show, and I'll tell you, we debated it for a long time. We did John through a lot of a lot of names, he did a lot of like yeoman's work cerebral, names, and it was amazing. It was again. But they couldn't be used the ones that came up with. But it's, it's funny because, you know, we read through these, like, okay. There's a couple in here that we could work with if I really needed to, but we weren't super excited about any of them, and then I was talking to Jason Snell about our plans to launch the show, and one of our titles was kind of close. I said, oh, we were joking about this title, and he's like, well, you know, why don't you just call the show? Biff. You're like. So, yes, our new show is called biff and it will commission point the next with an exclamation minimum one. Three max. We settled on. At least one no more than three more than three. It will be launching as I said, next week on the incomparable, look for in your feeds we have a Twitter account setup. It is at biff cast, and there is actually also an Email, which is biff at the incomparable dot com. So you can reach out to us in any of those places. And of course, you can always reach out to, to me and guy and multi on Twitter. We are more than happy to hear from you, folks. It really is. John was not joking. It makes day like we, we text them to other. Yeah. Nice. So what he likes us, don't believable, and who would have thought I know guy dropped into our little shared notes document the origin of biff which goes back to season, four episode five November six thousand fifteen so got three and a half years on this on this guy and it hasn't let up yet. So who to thought that would have become the defining aspect of our show should edit that into this one next one? We really that sounds like we would like to think this conklin, our, our patron Saint of this podcast, hatred the podcast, all of those things, I think he is he's inspiration to his all. And so, yeah, that's that's where we're going, we hope you'll all falls to the new show. We'll be delighted to have you there as readers, keep keep checking those transcripts. And we have been absolutely delighted to, to cover aero here for the last several years. And we were delighted to finish it out in, in style. This fall. And yeah, that's all I it's all I got say about that. I don't know if you guys want to say anything before we go. This was the dumbest project. They actually had fun with look starting to get actually kind of proud of it. It's pretty good. It's been it's been really fun and stupid. But mostly. Mostly. We'll see some kind of Malone the two. Yeah. Right. I think that's the charm of this podcast. It is. You don't want. Honestly, it's the charm of this CW shows this true. Little bit silly, also little bit silly, little bit smart. Little bit Hartfield, which is which is why legends is so good. Yeah. We'll have an opportunity to talk about some of that too, because I imagine we series wraps up Nazis wraps up next week. So I'm sure we will cover it in our superheroes. And I think that, that's why the latest page is going to be more interesting because there is a lot of stuff on TV, and it will give us an opening to talk about other stuff if right. And rope into your suggestions to I know there's we tend to watch a lot of stuff already, we kind of dip in and out of stuff, and we all have different things that we watch, and like, and so what we're opening to checking out new stuff that people wants to cover to all right? We've gone on long enough. So for this final episode of there. Okay. I will fit last time but not really the last time bid adieu to my co hosts John molds. Thank you so much for being a part of this project. Really? Look forward to continuing to podcast with you. Thank you, Dan. And I gotta go now to an island to resolve my murder list. Cool could you be backed by next week because we gotta show. I don't think it'll take one. Guy english. It is always a pleasure. And a delight to have you to talk to every week. My fans we've spent five years in hill doing this. We've only been doing it for, like, three, Matthew. Well, it seems like fun though. Yeah. And. Love you both. You. Teared up over you. Two. I have been I have been told. To all of our, thank you so much for me. Personally I love doing this show with these knuckleheads. And I loved that anybody listens to it. It isn't the light and is one of the high points of my week. And thank you so much for all of your support, you together with us together collectively. We have all saved this city slash podcast. So thanks for tuning in, and see. Let's do it. One last. Can we do it one last time together? Yeah. See. Sees future ready. Here we go. We'd better. Let go. Got was what a few feeding him shit. Well, he doesn't want to monitor took him. That's why. Gone. Now wasn't even there for you. Most. A bag of big belly burgers on my desk. Really? And I really should've put a toilet in there.

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Twist, Lick, Dunk, Eat with Jesse Kubanet

Mega

31:38 min | 2 months ago

Twist, Lick, Dunk, Eat with Jesse Kubanet

"Mega is an improvised satire. From the staff of fictional mega church. Hi i'm halley. Lebron and this is mega. Come into youth from twin hills community church. Where every single week. We give our mega church. Just a tiny family. Feel by introducing you to members of our church staff and our community. Ooh it is a true treat and it is a treasure well per us. I'm joined by my co host. He's the youth pastor for our high school ministry called the climax. Please welcome gray. Has everybody dab dab dab for the holy guys tally. How cool what you're doing with your arms every time you say dead. That's a new thing. The kids are doing right now. It's really popular. And i don into. It looks cool. So how was your week my brother well. I did kitchen bunch of my teens coming to climax playing spin the bottle o. No i know. We're you know they were actually in the drained baptismal jacuzzi in the main auditorium on. What did you do. Well you know. I just get added day. You'll lollapalooza and Shoot them off. And i you know. I got that bottle away from them. Which i don't even know where they got it but you know unfortunately halley at dropped the bottle as i was getting out of the jacuzzi and it broke so we might want to tell the facilities management. You know they before they fill it back up this weekend. Sweep up the glass. Hate for someone to get shocked when they get dunked. That's right oh my goodness halley in big news. I i in the final round of my interviews for the reality show. God's house. I mentioned last week. Well i'm very close. Hollywood producer biff mifflin of hand of god productions you know he brings twelve christian singles. Put them on an island and see if they can all end up married and expecting by the end of the month for the chance to win a million dollars. So that's cool. I've had one small problem though. Halley girlfriend buddha ababba well Beca to she's my fiancee I told her about it and she said she wouldn't allow it. Oh and i just had to put my foot down. Halley said you know. I am not a head of household yet but i'm pretty close act and i am making this decision if i get his. I'm going oh gee say well. She said well i'm going. She's going on the island out no halley she saying like i'm leaving just breaking up with you well. She can't really do that. Because i really talked down and i just said hey look becky. This is a way that god can really test our relationship because you know if he puts me on this island with these awesome christian beautiful other five christian singles in the perfect test of the relationship so a their be six girls if it's twelve making Six couples Yeah i guess. I was thinking of something else. How halley. oh. I'm so happy it's june. It is busted out all over. I love june because we always do a series at twin hills. About god's promises and this june all month long were doing a series called. Let god bless them over diving into god's promises and how he blesses his people and we're going to be focusing on the great flood and how god promised to never destroy the earth by flood ever again and he used the symbol of rainbow to symbolize such a beautiful promise to never ever. He only did it. Once is such a horrible genocide to destroy. Everyone almost everyone he created. Did that one time. But the beautiful symbol of the rainbow. Says he'll never do it again. And so for let. God bless them month. We decided to make all of these beautiful rainbow banners. We put them all over campus in the children's mystery in the gym in the atrium in the caf during the food court all over outside on our campus on our website. It's this beautiful rainbow flags. And i know i loved it when i drove in the other day. Is like willy wonka or something happy right full and then friday night i get a call. Frantic that the rainbow flags are a symbol of gay pride bonds. What and lead pastor was taken down. Take them down take him. I have never had to call all these volunteers. Take them all down. I had to go down to branch mitts and the props department say. I know you just did all these rainbow flags we got to change it up and we gotta do it now. We have less than a day till we start this series. So let's just do the name of series. I mean they took nudo. I can't believe they took the flag so brett gets to work and he starts making huge banners and flags to replace the whole theme for the month of june. And we were just gonna put up. Let god bless them month and we're gonna leave him up for the whole month while he didn't have a lot of supplies so brett had used so much stuff on the rainbow flags banners that he didn't have many left so he had to abbreviate it. He ended up making a whole bunch of flags and banners that said Lgbt month for god bless them and then turns out. That's a gay thing. What the sandwich no. You're thinking of a b. l. t. or be t. What's the avocado. So we end up with all these. Lgbt month flags banners and ads all over campus. All over the place. And we're like stop against up again. Get same volunteers. Take them all down. Take them all take down. We're just not going to have any advertising which was a bummer is within Steve started the series this weekend. With let god bless them and he was talking about the rainbow and god's promise to not destroy and it was really bizarre gray up in one of the balconies for main broke and flooded the g. balcony. No one winning over fifty thousand gallons of water in the people up. There started panicking. They thought it was the second grade flood. That is a god thing. Just kind of reminding us that he could kill everyone if he wanted to. But everyone in auditory. We'll besides the people who raced out of the g section in the balcony. Everybody else looked up at that thought. And they trusted. God's promise they didn't run out. They stayed for the rest of the message. And i think that moment of trusting promises you know what that is something. We can really take pride in this month. Amen is the day of the show. Y'all we're live streaming. Today june. sixth over at rush takes dot com. Get your tickets and join us with some amazing guests and music. You will be glad you did or if you join patriot on. There's a five dollars off the rush ticks ticket as well. We hope to see you there. Just like jesus broke. Bread with his disciples. Our guest today breaks out the snacks in my favorite ministry at twin hills community. Church ladies and gentlemen. It is my true pleasure to introduce mr rusty cabinets. Guys longtime listener. I guess not first time. Caller is first time sitting down with you guys. I guess that would people say yes. And i can't believe we haven't had you on sooner because you came with snacks. I did and i also run. A bevy. brought a wicker basket as they're all over the place here at the church. Just grab one. If i needed to take some things home or to get across the campus but i also have a little treat for both of you guys i to know so many people here i know what they like and what they don't like and they're allergic to is also very important and i just kind of hit away a little special sun for both you guys here here. The church okay. Great you are always driving me nuts with all your diets and you're on the keto and you're eating the atkins and you have all your loon riot totally alley. This guy was only eating luna bars for one month and he told me. I hope you don't mind. Grey not at all. You were eating so many luna bars. You said that your your movements were read. Well yeah i mean. I guess i do mind if you say that. This is not what i thought you were going to say. And they went lunar buys frigging. I mean i had had those before. The pack was sugar in estrogen. Not going to like eat a lot of that but that was like your house guy. I mean look at you. You're right right. You got that v. the big. You're like a capital you. V neck in capital v. shirt and of body But anyway this was always pounding down luna bars. I'd like to them do in the morning and then to at lunch and then it sensible enter. That's what you told me but now you're saying are these seaweed chips or do you. Call him chris. Yeah right in australia. We call them crisps. Yeah and so there. We crisps and so i spent months. He just kept. it was email text and then letters You know under my windshield wiper like when am i going to be chris. When am i going to get seaweed. Chris and my friend. I drove all the way to the costco in grainger. Wow i filled my two thousand. Fourteen nissan versa. Out to the brim with the entire end cap of seaweed. Chris i'm telling you the versus the bumper is dragging on the freeway all the way home. They're all sitting in my apartment right now. I just got to bring them over for you. grant awesome. Yeah you should. You should have brought one in you know a little box. So oversight on my part because they're in the pallets. So i have the would there on the would. I stubbed my toe a few times on it. But that's okay because i've been over backwards and forwards just to get snacks for the people that that's right. I guess we had blown the lead here. Which is rusty cabinets is in charge of snacking ministry here at twin hills. He's a time staff member and you know some of us would kind of think that that is you know it kind of amazing that you can fill an eight hour today hour day just providing snacks virtue. It's this size. But i think it is awesome and just want to go on record as saying only head to luna buys. I'm not really sure if something kind of got lost in translation there. But i'm really excited about the seaweed snacks. Thanks so much. We don't need to talk about it anymore. Thanks i mean grey. This means the seaweed crisps. Show up in all the leadership meetings coming up you know in any of our mid week services backstage in the green room on the weekend services in the climax green room i mean they could start showing up anywhere and everywhere. Oh that is so great and the reason you know. Also i wanna side the reason i don't really like lena. Baas is because really. You've got a lot of sugar and apparently if you eat too many of them you can Men can start lactating. Which i don't want to say well one of the things you came up to you and you said i'm learning bars two in the morning two in the afternoon occasionally one hit for dinner and then you have. You would see you at a sensible dinner. My makes our red and my chest hurts. My chest hurt that translation here because you know it was wearing to shirts at the time. Which i i've never. You usually have such a deep v. I've never noticed you wearing an undershirt. So i just i highly. I assume milk was coming out. Wow i mean did you not know. There was this trajan in their great. I've been heading of go g berries so that might be the thing. I just don't understand how all this can continue to make a mental note on on kgo debates as well. I don't know. I don't fully know what they are but i figured now i know i never know that stuff like the aci berries and the bowls and everything. I'm always like. What is this fancy stuff. It must be for the coastal elites so rusty. How did she get into snacks. I was a troubled youth. I was always in trouble. And i actually couldn't be a part of climax right because i was in you can call it. Jail was juvenile jail juvenile detention. You've probably seen it. It's up on the hill. it's red brick building. Probably the color of the makes only on the lunar bars you know that is exactly what you described the building up on the hill and i said oh i know well. I don't even know what you're saying makes anyway. So you in the tiny fella slamma. Which is what we call it in australia and you were there. How did you find christ and snack specifically where you're doing things around the chips that that got you into tiny fella slammer tiny slam. You're you're up on the hill and there are bars on the window and you know it's actually called what they referred to it now. Is the student opportunity center. And the uniform is a white shirt slacks. They take your initial aces and they just give you the opportunities to be what you should. You should be something else. That's the opportunity is what you're doing is bad. And when i was doing in regular school was popping ketchup packets in the bathrooms. I spray gobert. Oliver nunnery the local honoree. Down the road actually really enough snack based crimes rusty. I have a snack based question. And there's a moral side to it as well because when you were talking about gray's milk coming in to his well. Hey where'd you were using them referring to his nipples. I think is if i'm extrapolating and it made me think of nips those nips and i have. I wanted to ask you because you're the expert. I'm going to be very honest with you. I've wanted to pick them up. When i'm in the cracker and cookie on the grocery store but i just don't know if that's got honoring snack because why is it called nips and is that going to cause assemble in the flesh and think about maybe somebody parts. We shouldn't be focusing on. You know what i mean. I'm one hundred percent picking up where you're putting down your one hundred percent correct to stray from nips because of such attempting name and let's be honest suggestive packaging. Hello okay hello. We're trying to be here. At a target or kroger's we're not at amsterdam right right when strip clubs. I know i'll tell you what there's a russian market down on atwood and they sell norps. Okay and i tell you what you can't tell the difference. Don't don't even look at nips. Okay okay don't look nor and you won't on you know the difference. I forgot i have your treat coming. We go down this road. I'm talking about gray and red. Red makes i completely forgot to tell you about your tree. So the boys in the light booth they needed a new mini fridge for their sugar. Free red bulls. Okay and so. We flipped out that mini fridge. And i have the old mini fridge for you. Oh of your activity yogurts. I can keep it in my office right here on campus already. Oh this is like christmas morning. I had to wait for a moment where i knew that you wouldn't be in there. It's also they say it's a mini fridge. It's heavy i you know. They say many a gray on on the keto and and the seaweed and the atkins and an all the bars that you're eating. It's very easy for you to lift. Mini fridge right up over your head. It's just insane that this is come back to what i guess i would love to know is. What a steve's favorite snacks. Oh my goodness justin. I mean do you think am i allowed to really tell. They're not even telling tales you think he would. I don't think he wouldn't mind as he's got a paladin nips up there. It's not style we'll learn learn and neither am i so i mean this is privileged information when he's out there preaching. He's delivering the work whether it's on sunday morning whether it's during the second service on sundays at the first one sells out whether it's popping over to climax for a little bit you know. He's doing a random monday night. It's all about power fuel. He views everything as fuel energy. And so he has a routine. And it's a peppermint tea. Oh the vocal. With with a dash of honey okay. It's one riegler to the mobile correll. Okay and once epochal throat. Lozenge to dub lubricate realize and really. All that he eats is trail. Mix is now right which one. It's the kirkland brand kirkman trashy kind. Oh i love anything. Kirkland brand love it well. I really appreciate the mini fridge. This is going to be so exciting. And and the fact that you know i feel so known and seen in loved in this christian community the fact that you know. I like those specific yogurts. Because i had a real problem with yeast. It came with my first delivery my first child. He has thraw where his mouth filled up with a yeast infection as a baby. Then transferred to my. I'll call him norms. And then i've continued to have a real yeast problem and there's nothing that works better than those specific active yogurts and also for any of the women out there listening you can also microwave your underpants on prime for the yesterday's right now now rusty. Forgive me if this is too personal of a question. But i feel like we're really good friends and i just i wanna keep beyond my prayer list my brother and always be lifting you up to our heavenly father real specifically. I was just curious. What was it that got you putting the juvie slammer. What did you do where you troubled where you kill an animal's did you What was it. it was a series of. i would say childhood mischief. That just added up to an insurmountable amount of offenses that i just had to be. Put away the. My main calling. Card was popping ketchup packets in the bathroom. They can put you in jail for that. Because i just did it so many times and i wasn't caught red handed but i was caught red footed because when you when you pop ketchup packets in the bathroom. You're not doing it with your with your hands. Which is it just doesn't get the desired effect. You lay them out on the ground and you go into the handicapped stall just because it has more space and you really just stomp around and so you say just in school popping peci ketchup packets in a bathroom. And that's it. It started started in school. it did. It did start in school. And then it just got a little too vanilla o. What bathroom you popping him. In deal is the strip club district. Yes in noblesville. Yes the ship governor who no delays. I would go in. I had a trench coat and a hat and the pockets of the coat and also in the hat. Were hundreds and hundreds of ketchup packets. It's just so awesome such that you found your passion. Which which was you know. Snacks is what led you down this this path. It really wasn't positive. And then you were able to somehow find your way out of the bathroom of the strip club and you're able to find yourself out of the bathroom and into the little fella slam in the inada the little fellas lanta into what. I'm assuming is this job. And you know i just think that. That's the positive story that we should focus on. Which is you've left behind. We don't need to really get in to that. It's a god thing it really is. God thing it is and it was. When i was at the student opportunity center a little fella slammer and i'm looking down. I could see the winner from my room. I could look down. And i could see events like climax going on outside. You guys would have bouncy castles. Oh totally yeah. This favorite jumping jesus and water balloon fights and the game when the little baby pool is filled with marbles and that you try to pick them out with your toes and put them in a bucket i could see that from my perch. That's thirty pieces of silver toe. Toss and it just looked so fun to me. And i'm at this place on wall street. Have my belt. They have my shoelaces. And i just don't know which way is up and they finally let me out. Don't really have much family. I don't have many friends. Because i didn't make friends in the little fella slammer. I'll tell you that much. I wandered down in the church. Doors are open their wide open. And i tell you what that moment. I needed things. I needed the father in a belt. Because i think i remember this. You came in your pants were around your ankles and everybody was like this a flash. He they did. My parents were always down. Because i have a little bit of pudge from the snacking. I don't have a lot but when you're in a little fellow slam you get no snacks. And so i lost about fifty. Six pounds and my pants were they. Were just around my ankles constantly. Now why did they take your belt and you should lice in the first place. Oh and just so you wouldn't kill yourself right. are you married. I'm not married now. I would like to say. I'm married to my work. I want to make sure everyone i mean. Everyone has the snacks that they need. And that's what. I'm married to right now. I'll tell you what you thought. Jesus was mad when he was flipping tables in the temple. You have not seen vacation bible school when they run out of animal crackers. That's a mess. Oh sure sure. Do i talk about the. The instance happened last week. When you got a bit mad about the many's because i just don't. I don't eat sweet spot after you brought all those snacks into climax in for some reason halloween. You don't know this but some of my kids. Take the oreo minis. They were unscrewing them as they say. And they put the oriole minnie's on the balls and they walk around and they go. Look i've got cookies is look. I'm a dead look. You know. I look like a freak of nature or something and then Rusty came in and basically went. I don't know what that will was. But i thought it was a bit of an overreaction and again a bit disturbing because for some reason you still didn't have your belt on. I'm not really sure what that way. You don't like it when people play with the snacks. I don't like it when people play with the snacks for the belt thing. I have a bit of a nickel allergy in the belt that i was wearing that day. It had nickel on the on the metal so then i get a rash on my belly. So that's why. I wasn't wearing the belt that day. And yeah great. They're great teens. they're great kids. You know when just climax start is it. Do you have to be a teen or can you be twelve. Well we have one twelve year old unfortunately but yeah usually thirteen a tangential question when you flush in your house. Does it go the other way. It's just insane that this would even come up. Because i don't even know where you're going back because you had a guy that came in with trousers around your ankles yelling at oriole minis and you had the craziest rash of ever seen anybody. Had it actually look like ben victim. So i don't know why we're talking about a toll it right now because a toilet is not what we're talking about. I'm wanting to address the issue of you trying to discipline. These teams that really on in your view. Okay rosty and you've rash was insane. I mean it really was in it was like it had passed on it as something and i had to do and this is on me. I should've i should've led the cream dry before coming in. I had my shirt and around over my neck and so the shirt was almost like a backpack pants down right. I'm covered in cream. Doing redneck some attack tall. Exactly what it's called. Thank you so much because that would have been on the tip of my time and we drew me crazy all day. I came in. And i really. I probably poked a few of them in the eye exam. Ribbon the minis off of their eyes and they they put the cream. What i don't get what i don't get and maybe this is something that you bring that back to them. They weren't even enjoying cream. They had stacked the mile high on the table. So now the tables are are covered. An oreo cookie cream and the cook. That's exactly what are these kids. I don't know what you're teaching these kids at climax making one of your red makes what i get now. i don't know just. The inmates ran the asylum that day and there were just not eating cookies. The right way they were being yelled at by a guy who literally wasn't inmate so you know. I guess that does check out. But i feel you. I wasn't an inmate. I was in the student opportunity center. I was in student opportunity. Senate where i needed new opportunities. The only opportunity didn't have to kill myself because as you know what rusty speak in policy cream we know what. What are we talking about policy cream rash ankle allergy fact while i'm thinking about it rusty because you did the mini fridge for me. I'll tell you what i might bring you one of my husband lance lobont. He has some braided belts. That just tie say they go around themselves almost like a necktie. And there's no clasps. So i'm gonna and he hasn't been wearing them because he's atkins nonni only it's pure animal protein won't even know if one of them's missing i'm gonna bring you one. But speaking of policy cream. I also had to really elaborate on You know almost my entire body. When i was really plagued with these east infections which i think you've cared me of with the yogurt okay rusty. Is that a bolo tie. -gratulations thank you can wear that without trying to kill you. Can't you so much that is kind of got into it. It's really hard to to hold a full neck on a pipe. Which i learned and i find that the temptation is gone for me then and i just frankly love the way that they look. I wanted to ask you real quick before we leave. The oreos and other snack related moral morality. Question is with these new oriole flavors where they make the cream part Mint peanut butter jelly belly flavored Craig i'm like this. Is pure craziness i mean. Should we stick with a regular old-fashioned oreo. Or is it okay to branch out with these wild flavors now as long as oreos are being eaten the right way and i'm mostly looking at a novel alley when i say that making sure that oreos reading the right way. 'cause i think you know what i mean. You know what i mean. You know you know who should eat them the right way. How does she the right way. You twist lick dunk. That's how you eat oreos exactly right and you don't throw any nonsense in there. You don't cook. he's on your is you. Don't cream the table right cream your tongue and it's gotta be cow's milk it can't be any of these not milks that these costa leads like exactly and speaking of nut milks and also i just do have to give full disclosure my husband lance lobont. Because he's paleo he loves. These nut milks how. I'm glad you brought landscape. That reminds me. I have been out in the back. Parking lot squeezing armaments in my in my nighttime just squeezing filling mason jars with milk for your husband out there late putting up a sweat When i can't have my shirt off in apply because there's no one really round except for Security but they know what's going on. And i'm really getting after it. I'm squeezing. i'm polling and jars with not milk. And it's all your husband lance. Oh i think senior out there. Labor of love. I bet that's co look with you rash all of your front. Oh and it'll get on my back. It'll spread the nickelback. The yeah the nickelback. It's the most dangerous of the nickel rashes because it's so rare and he's rarely see it. I think christ's specifically put passion for snacks on your heart. I really do because it's just another thing that sets twin hills apart that when you come here there's going to be a bowl of checks. Mix in the middle of the table in the atrium by the food court. You know what i mean and it's just us things that are just show that we're above and beyond go the extra mile and we couldn't do it without you. I'd say you're one of my best friends at twin hills rusty. I mean i feel like every time. I see it. We got so much to talk about. I feel like we had an instant connection. We've always trusted each other and we both love snacks. Legally unclear as to why that is but It's really interesting that you so passionate about it. It was really cool rusty. He did all the snacks for the Afterthought women's conference. And i just thought you you use such good judgment you know how. How does this guy. He's the fella. How does he know what the ladies like to snack on so well but you nailed it. It was when you really down. It was easy. I cut up some fruit. I know you guys love your capri sun drink. I mean i emptied all the activity yogurt into the fountain. Yeah so you can really just go get the fountain and the one thing i will apologize for is there was a big dent and huge amount of luna bars missing and i won't say who who took them but he's it wasn't me and it was a unit wasn't the ladies and i love aluna bar not only because they have the estrogen but also i think they have the stuff to give us lustrous hair And they taste like a candy bar. Let's behind really. Do you really do. And some people eat too much work. Tell me if this is way too personal of question rusty but do you have a favorite snacks you know. I had uncle the easter as chickens. And he used to say that if you draw a line in the did and you spin ichiken around by hold its feet. You spin it around in three cycles and you lay it down and you put it speak on that line that all the chicken will do is just stare at that line until you kick the chicken in head and right now what. I'm in. basically what he's saying is the chicken was obsessed with the line once you spin around and it just seems like these one time i asked for a luna pat because i've done like three out and it was really hungry. They just became so obsessed with that in the u. Scott spun around like some chicken and yelich staring at the line going like line in line. Line line long lunar luna luna luna and you just can't come off it some scientists come off it because i don't even like them to kick it and i'm about to kick chicken in the head if if you don't come off eight i'm just not you're not strong clearly so i'm just saying you know. Knock it jeans priorities. I guess my answer would be chicken. Nuggets what a psycho rusty cabinets was played by jesse kubina. Oh i love him. 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Story About Wolves, a Butterfly and the Incredible Power of Your Actions

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08:33 min | 10 months ago

Story About Wolves, a Butterfly and the Incredible Power of Your Actions

"Making a small positive change today may result in huge changes later on another something completely different wage. Welcome to surrounded by idiots podcast off from the Java bug.com studios in beautiful Scottsdale, Arizona United States of America. This is the surrounded by idiots Radio podcast. I am Tony Dufresne PhD philosophical counselor. Great to be back with you this week today. I'm going to talk about wolves and butterflies and how the smallest of changes can impact in the biggest way in today's show came about because a few days ago. I was reading something that I had read previously, but it didn't really click to the same effect. Did and it was the story about the wolves in Yellowstone. So back in the mid nineteen hundreds. I mean hundreds of years ago the wolf population in Yellowstone Park. And for those of you who don't know if you're not in the States, you just don't know Yellowstone Park is one of our biggest most beautiful magnificent national parks in the United States. It's up in Wyoming and Montana it is massive and it has the most diverse it is the pure essence of the American West is Yellowstone Park and back in the nineteen hundreds of wolf population was wiped out basically and by people, of course, so in nineteen, ninety five fourteen wolves were released back into the park. This was kind of a little bit of an experiment and interestingly enough it led to an ecological phone. Nomenon called the trophic Cascade 14 wolves in this huge National Park initiated a more natural ecosystem balance. Well, what happened was when they first got in there, they started hunting the young population which had over populated the area. Well the decrease in Elk population led to the Oak staying away from parts of the park that were dangerous to them because the Wolves knew where the easiest place to get them. And so then the elk realized that they can't be just hanging out wherever and so they stayed away from a few different places that were a little more dangerous. Well this led to those parts of the park having the ability to regenerate them wage jobs where the forests of Aspen and willow trees started to flourish because if there's nobody there to chase you away and there's a lot of elk they're going to eat a bunch of stuff and they were eating the Willows the willow trees the palm trees. They were just munching away and you know getting fat and happy because they have no danger basically. So so the forest started to re flourish in those areas, which led to more berries and bugs which led to more birds coming in to eat the berries in the bugs and more trees met the beaver started moving back into those areas and the Beaver was almost extinct from that area over the past fifty or so years. So that's when they started building the dams again, they started providing habitats for other species, like otters and muskrats and other assorted reptiles. So the Wolves also killed Coyote Joe's Which led to a growing number of rabbits and mice which led to more bald eagles and Hawks and red foxes and Badgers and weasels. That was old doctor sushi in their home and with more balance between predator and prey there was an increased level of Education which led to less erosion. Which stabilized the Riverbanks which led to a more stabilized physical geography it changed the land fourteen wolves changed the land changed the way the rivers were eroding the land it reminded me. When I first read about it about back to the future. If you haven't seen the movie Back to the Future where he took it back and where he where he got his dad to actually punch Biff and then he went back to 1985 again and things are totally totally flipped where his dad was successful in Biff was just some dork wash of the car. Well this whole process it's it's a part of the thing called in philosophy of psychology. It's called chaos theory and it ends more specifically it's off the butterfly effect. And that's from this guy Edward Lawrence and he did this study on these weather models where he had an example of there was a tornado and He wanted to see if the flapping of the wings of a distant butterfly several weeks earlier would make a difference in terms of the path or the strength of the tornado. And when he put it into his weather model Time After Time After Time what he found was the flaps of those butterfly wings may need a difference because he couldn't get when he had him in there. It turned out one way when he didn't have them in their it turned out another way and he kept trying to he kept doing this back and forth to see if it was a consistent impact on this particular weather model of a tornado and it was which he came to the conclusion of a very small change in initial conditions had created a significantly different outcome and it's the same thing with the wolves and it's same thing with Back to the Future it how does it apply to me and you well, it applies to me in u.s. Dead. Making a small positive change today may result in huge changes later on in this could be the smallest of changes in terms of you know, not having extra cigarette or not having an extra hit on the jewel, which could maybe lead to you ultimately not smoking anymore which could lead you to being around for your kids lives or making a small change like the story that we had just a couple of weeks ago or so about just paying 6 bucks for somebody's muffin and a coffee in the Drive-Thru and that and them deciding. Wow. There are some good people on this Earth and them not deciding to kill themselves. Small changes that's why again. It's so very very important to understand day after day hour after our second after second how important you are in this whole system and how important your actions are in this whole system and how you impact things positively or negatively So my call to action is look at every single thing that you do has something that can be done in the grand scheme of things pick up that piece of trash while you're walking. The whole point is not every single thing is going to lead to a brand new geography in a national park. But the point is is that in terms of the butterfly effect. It's proven that small changes small small actions can lead to huge changes. So why not do something more positive action? It doesn't that mean, you know, no skin off your back, right? It could lead to something huge. It could lead to saving a life. It could possibly lead to the end of global warming. I mean, who knows right? That's why it's important to turn off the water during when you're brushing your teeth, maybe or recycling that water bottle instead of just tossing it or saying hi to somebody instead of not saying hi to suck because you're rushed or you just don't feel like it, but it's something to think about isn't it? Cuz it's a proven Theory remember the butterfly effect, and remember the wolves in your life. I'm calling. I hope you have a great rest of the week. Even remember you can go to Java bug.com for everything. I'm on Alexa flash briefing and YouTube. I will talk to you soon. I don't want to be alone. I'm calling on Friends. Taking my time and try and get beat what I want.

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