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Woody Game Wednesday 11-11-2020
"What is the fisher house. If i had a chance to talk to the fisher family. I would start crying. Because i can't articulate how much it meant to us. House is to comfort home. Military and veteran families saying no charge allowing the family to be together to support their loved one during medicine prices. It's enough to help. You thrive these hard situation. Go to fisherhouse dot org for more info and how you might help. That's fisherhouse dot org shoe. Can't they celebrated a birthday. Yesterday was the marines birthday yesterday. That is correct. And today is veterans day wilcox Pointed out and tweet it out. There's a lot of great places that are offering free deals for veterans today not just food but haircuts all kinds of car. Wash cool stuff and everyday should be that way. I myself to go out on a limb and do something a little bit different for veterans day on what game wednesday and do something cool. Come up with the. Why are we not on face hands. This i'm watching cool beans do something and then. I'm looking at the camera to see. If we're live on the facebook page and i believe so far we are not but i don't know what's happening in the other room so we may eventually be live on the walks facebook page but here we are on the radio so we've got that Going for us. Which is mediocre Let's meet our contestants on. Just gonna take the first two since. She's struggling with the camera over there. Let's say good morning to jamie jamie. Good morning immonen. Taking you on is going to be jake jake. What's happening not much more got. We are celebrating veterans day today. And i've come up with a game to help us celebrate a brand new gain that i'm calling. Don't be unnerved. Tell me this famous person that also served a lot of people in hollywood have served our great nation before they became celebrities and sometimes while they were celebrities. I have produced audio clips of these people. They're all incredibly famous. So you'd be able to tell me who this famous person is. And then if you get it right you get a point if you get it wrong. Your opponent gets point and a bonus if you can tell me which branch of the service they served in. There is no consequence for that one any questions at jake. We'll do teams on this one. Jimmy urine i. Who would you like to have as a teammate. Wilcox chelsea Yeah chelsea together any questions before we get started now. I don't hear any okay here. We go i offering. Tell me this Famous person who also served right here. My data stormtrooper helmet. I know that voice. Great adam driver listen to what his do him. My dad a stormtrooper helmet. Then he would chase us around the house. And i punched him in. The time is very proud. That is mr kylo ren which branch of the service that he served him so he served or his dad served. He served okay. I was using what he was saying. I was misunderstanding. That was happening. He served. I can take a guess right. Jake do you want to guess. Go air force air force and you're gonna go with that one. Chelsea because that is incorrect he unite states marine corps really up. I didn't even think he was american. Really from uk marines after nine eleven served for almost three years before being medically discharged after a mountain biking accident. Adam drivers just can't believe she chelsea kudos. How did you nail that so quickly. That was amazing. Voices very specific to me. All right one for jake. Nothing for us jamie. We're all right all right next to bring. Tell me this famous person who served right here. Okay it did two things one. I will say. I'm not good at this. I'm better at voices than i am at titles damn right. Your clint eastwood idea which brands served in j uh in corrigan. Again marine corps on now and hang on to say. I'm just double checking on this one. Because i see that. He was drafted during the korean war. Serve as a lifeguard at a base in california. But it doesn't say exactly what you can be a lifeguard in the military i i. I'm with you on that one chelsea so hang on a second Verifying feels like that. Something could have figured out before the game. I don't wanna throw wrenches into your system United states army army is where he served all right jamie. We're gonna we're down to. We're all right next offering on this one. Tell me this famous person who also served. It's real siasi. We chelsea is that. Rob riggle rob during he. I know. roy moore andbranch. Oh sorry. I thought word. What are you going to play another clip he marines. He wasn't very nice job. Why our time's the charm. Jake okay games going. Yeah i'm sorry really Next offering you still have a chance. You still have a chance on this one. Tell me this famous person who also served. I had never eaten a bagel i. I've eaten one since then. What happened was on the show. they want to eat. A said only bagels so but it was in the script so you know chelsea chelsea i mean i know who it is but i get my isis mixed up. Don't hate on me. That's ice tea exchange friday's ice cube. I have no idea the branch of the military jake again. We'll go army you'll army. And he did serve in the army. Nice job in one thousand. Nine hundred seventy seventy served in hawaii until nineteen seventy nine. I'm sorry you guys cannot come back from this wilcox. Javy zero is chelsea. No words very impressed jimmy. You chose four. They all right. We're all today. Thanks to our veterans who are out there every single day. Doing what they do. So thank you venture in today. Remember what this day is all of wilcox. False saving sale is happening now at mattress warehouse save up to one thousand dollars plus get zero percent interest financing for sixty months unsure of which mattress is right for you. People are but mattress warehouse is home to bed match diagnostic system. 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Mr. Tambourine Man
"From workhouse connect in. Aj Benza vein. he likes to be walk on a leash and play really dirty. Kinky sex tapes keeps US The Guy put the cock and the peacock network. Okay Bitch Hey everybody. Aj Benza. Here for fame bitch. This is your podcast in my Netflix. Joe Is forty years old today. Yeah Jesus Christ hope you Thanksgiving while. I'm recording this Friday afternoon noon. Very late I know but had a lot of traveling yesterday with Thanksgiving a lot of a lot of fun lot of singing a lot of yelling at the TV for the football games. What everybody else was doing I was doing too so sigh of these shows are late coming at Ya but fuck it most of your shopping? Listen I I guess maybe hilarie Baldwin listens to this podcast or maybe she has friends who do and they told her what I said. She may be just. This feels this way for whatever reason but I like to make myself responsible. Apparently she is Responded to online trolls and some critics who accused her publicizing her recent miscarriage for attention. And as you know that a couple of days ago and she said all of a sudden I started oughta getting negative comments about my miscarriage. They call me an attention seeker and too old and disgusting. Losing a baby at any age is hitting rock. Rock bottom rock bottom sucks but rock bottom is also eye opening because you understand and you've experienced pain it makes the troll seem even smaller smaller than they usually are because no words they use can ever compare to what you have lost. How about these words? If you're calling your miscarriage rock bottom. You got another thing coming. It's not rock bottom. It's unfortunate day. There's no question about it but you've got four other wonderful a full healthy children that need your attention and love so get it and move on you know. She went on to defend other women who've been bullied over something sensitive calling out those who are bringing a cruelty to the world that is wrong. You contributing to feelings of shame in fear insufferable pain. It is for this reason that I've stepped phone and shared as I have not for attention because it is my story and I decided to open up up. You think I wanted this. I think you like your attention. Hate to say this. Is Your Life Story really your miscarriage. Why not make your story again? What I make your story about the children you already have? Jesus Christ beautiful woman you know. I'm sure Baldwin must roll his Is when he hears a doing this shit on instagram. Live get a life then. She added because of societal pressure. Most of us all stay silent. Okay then stay silent. What does everybody have to know everything about you? I'm trying to promote the gift of being enable to share what is going on just to know. We're not alone. We're not broken just opening ourselves up to love and we should never be ashamed of this even when it doesn't go as plant again opening yourself up to the kids who are with you and need you. There's plenty of them by the way. If you haven't counted this four I know it sat eh hurts I get it. I've been through it. We've been through it as a family but we never felt the need to go to social media and weep for strangers. Everybody feels the fucking need to to be an advocate for something. He married a huge movie star. Okay and that makes it. It means your your Yoga. Teaching is no longer needed to make ends meet. Okay and now she needs a purpose but you purpose should be raising the four kids. Did you already have sick of this. I'm sick of people thinking that we need to hear them get behind some kind of cause so that can be important. There's nothing more important the being a mother and you got four kids to do it with so do it. I'm sure you'll have another kid. 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They bowed to the pressure and they will no longer give money to the Salvation Army Army or the fellowship of Christian athletes because both organisations apparently have a history of opposing gay same sex marriage so chick-fil-a fillet finally buckled. Lot of tough talk and now the justice off as everybody else who gave in but sprite please tell me what the fuck sprites up to there there. S In a move that I cannot explain. They re released new commercial. It's got nothing to do with Soda Oda but everything to do with force feeding the public transgender ideology but they tried to dress it up as love and acceptance. It's because they play nice music in the background. I got news here. You WanNA get chills. Don't play the sound when the commercials on just look at the images and you'll go. What the fuck because going on here? What world are we living in? The message has nothing to do with quenching once thirst for a soda. But you're going to see this shit in commercials soon everywhere. At once again you know representing the one tenth of one percent of the world's population and sprite jumped on it. I'm watching watching this fucking and I can't believe it can't believe what I'm seeing. There's a parent who is wrapping an ace bandage around her daughter's breasts. So it can look good and feel more like a boy go out with other people and not feel different. I you know breast bindings a terrible practice. This is not good. It's not a good thing to put on a commercial and be seen. As being a proponent of why would they feel okay being part of this somebody on social media made the point why not shooting ad that promotes anorexia because both conditions are mental disorders. All right body dismore few is almost indistinguishable from gender. Dis for you. You know both people look in the mirror and see something. That's not out there but only one of those people get treated properly for the others get sent off to shit. Doctors who cut off healthy body parts take part in the patient's fantasy. Sorry that's the way I feel you know and worse. Minor children suffering from gender dysphoric given sterilizing drugs that are not really not fully understood yet or studied properly enough and will know about the damage that causing ten or twenty years but and yet sprite. Fine with it no problem you know. We've become used to seeing shit like this. In the month of June owned gay pride month because they just they go ape shit June. They're a bunch of corporations that get on the bandwagon they get on the LGBT. What the Fuck Bandwagon and wagon? Every June we gotta put up with the Endless Rainbow Logos and the virtue signaling the takes over every commercial. TV Show News. Ed You you name it. But now they're starting to release shit in November months and months after pride months. So that's what I'm telling you. It's what I always told you. The transgender Mafia stepping up their game. You'RE NOT GONNA get a reprieve for the rest of the year. No no no no. It's not enough to inundate people with transgender propaganda and the month of June. They want more they want more. We gotta be subjected to it every every single day of the year until we all conform and we all celebrate this fucking mental disorder. And like I said one day. We'll be here pulling hair out because they'll be an ad that tries to shed understanding on. Pedophilia I keep telling you that. Trying to get that pee on the end of the fucking rainbow on the alphabet rainbow. You'll see and how that too is a disorder for people who just need the right treatment. There's going to be a guy on on the Internet looking at some Kiddie Porn. And somebody can come behind him and put a reassuring hand on his shoulder is just to say we'll get you that help. Don't you worry fucking fucking gross. There's no help they need castration. Okay and I'll volunteer to be the guy that cuts off the junk and I'll wake up every day and smile and whistle on my way to work. Just get ready as these. Ads are going to start populating. The TV landscape throughout the holiday season this year and beyond you know at the time of year where we all help our daughters hide the shame of having tits and we tightly wrapped in bandages which can cause tissue damage and hurt their inner organs But fuck it. Let's have some Eggnog and celebrate. Our kids celebrate our kids. Individuality bought a bunch of bullshit. I don't know I thought I thought Johnny Depp was off drugs and stopped drinking red wine to such excess. But I don't know what to say about this story. Johnny Depp's company is financing an unauthorized musical. About Michael Jackson's life told through the perspective of his glove. Yes his glove love. The show is called for the love of a glove unauthorized. Musical fable about the life of Michael Jackson has told by his glove. You can't do this while you straight you can't this. This is an idea you say. I'm going to run with this when you're so fucking off your ass on drugs but it it the bullshit doesn't end there. It gets even weirder. Some guy named Julian knits. Berg is the guy behind this and he believes Michael Jackson Glove is a man and is actually the one who was behind the child abuse. It's also an alien who feeds on virgin boy blood but not only is this rhinestone encrusted a slap to the face of Michael's victims. But this knits Berg Guy says he wants turned down big money big. TV money to do to do his version. He said a major TV network wanted him to write the Jackson movie but the question came up about how to deal with the Child Abuse Negga allegations and the network and knits. Berg disagree and he goes well. I got an idea house. This how about everything. Michael Jackson has been accused of was actually caused by his glove. Which is actually an alien from outer space? Is that feeds on virgin boy blood. D- See it and the executives nervously laughed and said can and you do in normal version and it's Berg said to himself. You know what I can't do. And he turned down a really big paycheck and he thought unenglish back. This one day do a musical about the glove by. Just gotTa get the financing. I entered Johnny Depp. Because when dealing in with something as complex and horrific child abuse it makes sense to dignify it with a you know a fictionalized alien white white sequined glove. Who feeds on boy blood? Think about what fuck in Hollywood is about think about this people. I mean this is probably the most famous glove since. OJ Simpson's love but still. It's not necessary that it gets the Star treatment and word is that Emmanuel Lewis was and Corey Feldman and even bubbles. The chimp are going to be involved as life sized puppets. I wasn't Johnny Johnny Depp. Just in a mess of having no fucking money and entangled in a bunch of different lawsuits dot to mention his divorce and all the abuse you celebrate now that he's saddled a couple of messes out of court. He thinks the best thing to do is sink his money into a musical about sex-abuse through aliens aliens looking for a boy. Blood sounds great. Johnny I mean. What's next a Winter Extravaganza Jeffrey Epstein on ice ice? Aren't you do that and Fucking Rockefeller Center. It's unbelievable what goes on here. And I'm looking for financing for my my my my book my movie you know. I can't take it yesterday. If you saw the Dallas Cowboy game at halftime the singer Ellie golding came out and look like Jesus Christ. She looked like she she. She rated every angry confused. Gay Men's closet in America and she put a fucking lampshade on her head at the top of it was ridiculous but she sang. She was a train wreck. But let me tell you. Some in what will become a habit and a practice with a lot. The performance going forward Ellie Golding by the way it never anyone. I WanNa see perform anywhere anyhow. But Still Ellie Goulding had the balls to threaten not to sing during the Salvation Army sponsored halftime show after fan on instagram. Let her know its history of aiding on gays allegedly hating on gays. So Ellie let the Salvation Army fucking know that unless West they make a pledge to help the LGBTQ community. They're Thanksgiving halftime show. You wouldn't see her doing it. I heard the Salvation Army The they tried to tell everybody. They they they educated golding on the misconceptions about their organization. They said they don't discriminate against just anyone blah blah blah. But unfortunately what I really heard is since she had them over a barrel so late in the the planning phase fe. Bow to the pressure and they just added some more money onto her check. That's what made Ellie Goulding really happy. Not so much that the money was going to go there. We're going to give some money to these corporations nations. These causes no it came down to. How much more am I going to get? Paid to sing took the money a lot of them take the money. They talk a big game but they want the money in their bank account. I wonder how soon she'll accept checks to perform for dictators. Like a friends have done over the years. You know you know all the big shots. Sing zing forbid people. They cashed checks just as easily as they cash checks. Many else. How come nobody said Shit? When beyond saying usher and fifty cent Mariah Mariah Carey got paid a million bucks a piece to sing at parties? Thrown by Moammar Gadhafi's sons Hannibal and tasks him in Italy in Saint Bart's between two thousand five and two thousand nine what about when Nellie for him and Nelly Furtado. You're probably thinking she went nowhere. Career died she's probably broke. No Oh shame broke. She got a million bucks by Qaddafi by the Qaddafi family to perform an Italian hotel. Two thousand seven. What about when Michael Jackson himself after he was acquitted of ten felony charges in several counts of child? Molestation two thousand five he He sought refuge in Bahrain and accepted millions from that. Nice guy she got Dula Bin. Hamad Al Khalifa. Yeah you know. He's just seeking refuge in pocketing millions. Even these sainted other worldly sting staying died in on those of seen pay days. Most of America has no idea about staying perform that the regime celebrating festival. We'll put on by Goulnara carry Mova. She's the daughter of the wonderful who's Pakistan desk but president. Islam Karimov does. The Guy was known for boiling his enemies alive. Yeah spaying sang for him. Sudden Holy Inglesias. He got the money to why because listen one can never have too much money. You got to feed your family right like I always say you gotTa keep your pool heated especially the pool inside besides pool. Who cares the tickets? Cost a thousand bucks which was forty four forty five times. The average of an WHO's Beck's monthly income income sustain. Julio popped into the two million bucks to peace and split God forbid Ellie Goulding a singer who nobody will talking about five years from now performs for anything sponsored by the Evil Salvation Army. Those bastards who were mistakenly for trade is anti get got to stick up for your lgbt off on Google community. Listen I'm not a fan of the salvation army either but my feelings concerned that that my father always told me that during World War Two. They wouldn't hand out free coffee soldiers in Belgium after they liberated them from Nazi rule and every time. My father took me shopping. During Christmas time we went past those fucking salvation. Army guys shaking their Red Bell. During the holidays he would say under his breath off cells. That's something I can get behind. Not What Ellie. Goulding bullied them on. But don't worry trusting sp before long you'll see Goldie singer hit songs for some former leader of Isis. It'll happen anyhow short short show today and everybody's out out and about doing the black Friday thing I'm going to jump on a bunch of stuff to get To catch up on stuff and behind on today's one of those Mike Blair days. What do you do get sick? We're all feeling the same so today's short voices kind of shot. I think you'll excuse me one day to to bring in Ringing show a little under thirty minutes but what coming back. Monday business as usual as slide into December. soulmate J Benza. That was your podcast for November thirtieth nineteen and I will talk to US Monday Thank you for listening famous. A bitch is an AJ Benza. 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280: What FEMA and Other Government Agencies Are Saying About the Puerto Rico Earthquakes
"Hey guys it's Hillary Koloa Latino radio. It is Friday afternoon January tenth. I just got off a media call with FEMA and other government agencies about the federal response to earthquakes happening in Puerto Rico. We record the call. So I'm just GONNA play the call unedited. So here's the media call that just happened around two. PM Eastern Standard Time on Friday January tenth. Thank you good afternoon. Everyone is the press secretary Kerry here hearing not my thank you for joining us today to discuss the updates to the federal response to the recent earthquake in Puerto Rico. Today we will have Kevin Hayes from from the United States Geological Survey Research visit to join to start up. And then we'll kick it off with you. Mr Justly fired FEMA fifty administrator for the Office of response and recovery and then it'll be ten U. L. from the director of Emergency Response and Recovery and then Ray Alexander from the Army Army Corps of Engineers the director of contingency operations. And then we'll have Daniel. Your guests are Spanish language spokesperson to give it to provide a Spanish update to ensure hays how all this got as with the US Geological Survey Quick Information. I'll give you conviction about the ongoing ethics in Puerto Rico so that you'll know that it was making six point four quake on the seventh of January around full twenty four am I am local time in Puerto Rico and this is part of a ongoing secretive Quakes in the region and it started with four point seven on December. Twenty eight continued with many hundreds of quakes since that time About a hundred fourteen three plus quakes Seems like December many of which would it be built on land in Puerto Rico because if this gets an influx since the nineteen six points all on seven January there have been a through the ninety one ninety three of other quakes Three of which have been mentioned above. four costs sort sort of our impact and estimates to the bank. Six full main shock Indicate the we expect up one hundred million dollars with Economic Susan the region and chance at the casualties on the US yesterday like web pages. We continually update offshore four costs and our current pot shop full costs posted and this morning indicate three percent chance of in a quake notch nineteen six point four seven town seven slugging enchanted the main Jude Lawson seven. That is all over the next one week. Take the most likely scenario over the next thirty days officers will continue to decrease in frequency. I would no further similar size Justin January seventh nineteen six four in Some obstacles though Maybe moderate in size lodging coast localized damage. And and we still expect many more make up aftershocks which could be felt vaguely I also wanted to update you on USGS field teams in the area. Yeah there is an ongoing deployment in collaboration with our colleagues at the Puerto Rico seismic network insulting local instrumentation to recall the sequence. There's a grand stadium reconnaissance chain that will be declaring on to the region over the coming days Offshore Mapping reconnaissance came team led to deploying seen as well. That is a little bit. I had some thank you. Thank you Mr Hayes Now Mister Jip fire from. I'm feeling better for the topic. Then recovery will provide an update from thank you good afternoon team You know since the beginning of this stuff has initiated action. We continue to gain situational awareness on the ground wasn't need the Commonwealth or and this about in the impacted area we've initiated are action from the beginning with the activation here in Washington the National School Nation Center Regional Honors They have packed their regional responsible. Nations Center would deploy teams down range to the Khanna Welfare embedded both with the government reporting Rico governor per key response assets as well as the Impacted Policies Down Range We have great communication communication and coordination with the governor. Her chain. I it is Definitely positive I cannot command the Commonwealth for enough for the the proactive nature that I've taken for providing their initial resources providing the initial support down to the mayors and again We have no issues whatsoever. Coordination and communication with the Governor Hurricane. We're in constant communication with her as well as the impacted mayors down We are focused on out of our lifelines We focused primarily currently only food water shelter and the energy Those two go hand in hand as you well know you'll hair and energy FDA and as we go further forward. But I can assure you again with the Commonwealth and the governor lied. We have what we need to support the efforts. down rings from the same perspective again. Now we as you. I know we've had a long term and we'll have a long term recovery effort as a result of Burke Maria We have staff where we need to have. Have we have life commodities where we need we have What we need to sustain a operations down range all intact adminis- policies the the big ones have Stop yet magic major commodities as we speak a lot of positives as we move forward the courts are open. The airport's which opened supply chains running reports are the grocery stores. Commerce is coming back up in the impact area. I do that so that was a bit. Akasha buff associes outright off generator power but we are again and that it would become we'll have Reviewing plants dance maintenance plans and plans ready to support should generators began to To fail We're looking good and in most of the other lifelines again but we want to keep a college cautious up order with the USGS pointed out. And I think it's important to Ah Expectation standpoint. Hurricane convenient goes through this is staying with us we very aware of the sensitivity the citizens are going through from say. Avoid it every time the ground shakes There's a lot of Enraged show a lot of concerns here in boise voice we kinda have to start over from Graham Zero from zero start again But that's the nature of will be there until the situation. Allies message from headquarters is just outstanding. Communication would be governor. Puerto Rico All the way down down to the mayor's we cannot ask for better operation at this time. That's all I had lucy alternative thinking if desired now can do out of the director of emergency recovery from the thank you living so In the day since the since quake PREPA in the support of a a small team from New York Power Authority Department of Energy has done a remarkable job of restoring the generation that's in power to one point one million customers that's about eighty one percent of prep is one point four million customers and With meeting reaching ear full restoration by Sunday. Monday That is that Is Contingent on bringing available generation assets. Online that includes for nobles This option that as we AH moved to that we're leaving minimal reserve margin that's the amount of offending or not utilized generation contingency to maintain some stability. So it's in the generation would be operating at maximum capacity and there would be no leeway for having something on line or something coming off line so you would see the actually see You know some spots blackouts around us and that type of thing so devoid that And to compensate for is that generation shortfall the primary solution of being considered involves increasing output at the psycho and San Juan and San Lan powerplants that'd be. These plants are capped by the first option. We're looking at or a federal waivers and That would allow the plants to operate the above the missions waiver and that's that would also increase that two topics that at those plants which which provides the power to to disarm on Metro area. That's seventy seventy percent of the process of the highland so I would really provide a lot of of all the and the so. We're looking at two of working with our partners. EPA to to to get the emissions flavor so through And the options live with the League which is Options that we have to act the Federal Power Act to To Accomplish the same thing again. As having international generation to fill margin to provide a longer term systems facilitate awesome similar to great thinking. Well now Mr Ray. Alexander Director of contingency operations from the United Take Army Corps of Engineers exemption in In support of the kind of wealth of Puerto Rico at the Army Corps of Engineers funding under four FEMA mission assignments include the national and regional activation. And then you structure assessment temporary emergency tower We've mobilized resources to response in Washington New York and Puerto Areco our infrastructure assessment We've deployed a planning and response. Team Mission Management Sell. The team is currently scoping critical infrastructure with FEMA and Puerto Rican officials permission planning as far we have a requirement assess Nine fire stations are temporary. Emergency Power Mission. We've deployed one the planning response team and soldiers from our to forty ninth Prime Power Engineer Battalion Day are on the island at the initial operating facility in San Juan and the incident support based on say That's why we received a Department to assess one building our Jacksonville district South Atlantic Division are supporting requests for technical assistance from the Commonwealth Use as personnel already completed damage assessments and inspections of the surrealists in Portuguese dams downstream water control structures in concrete channels there are no visual structure impacts signs of movement distress or cracking identified the fun to the earthquakes Zander. Now our final briefer will be Mr Dana Schema national finish soak for all. I WANNA start this on correct. Yes Seattle all your own. A particularly in the we'll get them into your sent to a remote site in. I got today comments here now is in okay. And that'll what what are some of the mid only did see that in some cases depending of coming because when psychologists in let me get them into the only thing that is going to convince you know Seattle I'm being ah Bin and then most Needs to put in that interferes careers considering Apple yet before you fix it gives them something to suit. Mosquito Lacks Joan. Did weapon monkey the new one and I'm going to handle and the best teacher fiscal went on those. What does the split those incommensurable of the handle more children as well? It's just what yet guys get back here and because you know sipping suspended most imp most people's Daniels you can't handle on. Let me see has finished Mississippi. Detour them out. Take questions from the media and the interest of time. He's one of your questions regarding per quarter which we go earthquakes Only I'm brady additional questions. I will provide the news desk contact information at the end of this call. Now turn it back over to the moderator. Thank you if you would like to ask a question he makes it. Don't acquiescing star one on your telephone. KEYPAD speakerphone please. Make sure your immune function is turned off to allow your signal to retry Clinton also limit yourself to one question to ensure we have enough time for all of our questions again. Press Star one to ask a question. Russian we'll talk for just a moment. Everyone an opportunity to our first question comes from Julio Valera with Latina USA which Romania good afternoon thank you for the update. Is there any word from the big Regarding the major disaster declaration that the Governor Puerto Rico was talking about yesterday could seem provide enough data. They've been contacted about it Or timeline yeah you know that's a great question I appreciate you asking that so You know as you know the president. MARCI decoration on the Sabbath for what is considered Direct federal assistance. And what that allows us to do it to provide live the Commonwealth of Government of Puerto Rico with resources and expertise to save lives. It's the same property. It's not a funding funding declaration if you will Like a major decoration. So where we are in the process of airport is that we are working with Recoup Merchant Management Bureau and the governor doing needs assessments in the Impact County jail. Getting what are those that are going to be out there and win When the governor of submits the request we cannot act on anything until the Governor Smith Melissa missile request and to to President We will work at in a very expedited matter to To make sure that we're doing our for it to get the right information through the President's decision candy make But at this time we're focused primarily on the stabilization of the lifelines. We're focused on making sure that we have Well what mega should a commonwealth has what they need to provide citizens they might not have access to Food and water may not have access to medical care or whatever whatever the need maybe that's a great question we We're not at a point. We've received a formal request from the governor And and I would add You know I don't WanNa put time on it because that is at her the direction and and You know calling you will but I can tell you that. We are Side by side with her hurricane assessing the Dan next question comes from Geena Kado with the Associated Press. Yes good afternoon or the information. I just don't buy something I couldn't hear very well in the fall for Mr. Hayes What was the one hundred? A million dollars economic Asian referring to is that like hypothetical event or that the actual damage it it is an impacted sessions. USGF again it is an impact assessment that is released immediately after the earthquake Based based on statistics of the region basically we can come up with US and Talented Likely Economic Aussie so it is not based on actual information. Yeah it is a proper assessment of what we look Based on the communist historical that Brexit now we also produce reports that are in coordination with all due to that through that had the triple which was in much more detail impact assessment and that has this report also indicates Similar nevels likely economic losses. I think eight hundred close with its economic losses. But those will be improved is GRANDPA think question comes from Henry. It's never My question was for the permanent of energy Kendall You're mentioning that that. There were a couple of car plants one in San Juan that we're going to have to get a we were bypass of ups standard to of could use his Half past regulation my question is why the VP standards. In place. In the first place. Why could be possible? Um uh-huh environmental impact is that. And how long are you planning on having happy. The solution to the energy problem right so it would be better to the EPA but the The the reason these classes they're they're they're they're older plants. And it was actually to Palo Santo so and Sam on older plants. They produce a lot of a lot of smoke and so they are limited by the EPA to environmental reasons in pushing a lot the smog and smoke around the same on as I would imagine so what this allows us to increase their out to To get that to fill that generation shortfall that will have in the in the near term while the Probably damaged plaster in the southwest part of the of the island of specifically specifically the. As plan which is second today. And the Costa Sir plan which was severely damaged in the earthquake. So what we're really if you look at holistically generation gratien needs across the entire island What we're really looking to do is that balance out the loss of the coastal hats and this would be a temporary A temporary fix while that is being repaired. So we're looking I think we're looking probably to request something in the In terms of thaddeus number on that because we don't actually know right now.
Hour 3: 12/12/19
"They cried passion and pageantry of college. Football leaves here. The Paul Finebaum show our three podcast cast welcome back. We are here for a couple more hours. It's been a really good show you the navy Cochon and that was really exciting. Army Army Army Army Navy game is up of Saturday in Philadelphia coach. Not that one but this one is in Fort Worth a health coach good afternoon. Hey Paul thanks for Thanks for taking my call thank you. Hey Hey I I coach High School Ball for thirty years here in Texas and we used to go to visit. Different colleges went to Auburn one. Spring Went to Ohio state one spring you. You know we would do that in place of going to clinic and meet with the Coaches Watch. Bring Ball Watch film as questions. Get ideas on on different things of Few Years I've sat in meetings with The the quarterbacks coach quarterbacks and was offense coordinator Nader and Anyway when Joe Borough was at Ohio state the We were there in the spring before J. T. Barrett senior season so joe was probably a sophomore and really the point of my call is how kids change so much And you know how kind of first impressions can be deceiving but when we were there You know I think Joe Borough has been a surprise to really everyone how things have turned out to this point You know considering what he did at Ohio State. I don't think anybody could have ever predicted. You know that he's going to win the heisman trophy Eh but when he was a freshman and a sophomore at Ohio. State I sat in meetings with the core. We're by coach. Tim Buck was there at the time and And the other quarterbacks and Some of the coaches that were in there with me. We would about a million dollars that he would Have Gone To. Lsu are against him going to Lsu and the and and the unsuccessful period. I mean it was unbelievable. You know just because I mean I can. He's totally different cat. Now than he was was when he was at Ohio State. And I think a lot of it had to do with You know he was behind J.. T. Barrett I don't think he had much hope of being the starter and I just didn't feel like you had much of a chance is Obviously as motivation than totally different since you went to Lsu he I mean he. He's been given new life and he is done a hell of a job with it but I mean I. It's just shocking to me to see him change so much as someone who is coaching position for his longtime how do you explain it I think having Joe he obviously always had the ability you know. I think it's a matter of a matter of confidence. I I don't know I think coach Os personality and Urban Meyer's personality you're probably You know a hundred and eighty degrees in different directions You know just the way they handle players I think that Urban Meyer Loves J. T. Barrett and And that was obvious she is that To Joe Joe. I don't think Joe felt like the chance whether he did or not. You know obviously I mean I think if he would have been the best quarterback at at the time then then he would play obviously but he does attitude was not good and then he came across. This is I mean. Pardon my French you came across as being a dumb ass root cause is his his head was just that when I see him on do interviews now now and and watch him You know and how he presents himself and everything he was a totally different kid. You think tells it all coach. Yes definitely I think it's I think it's definitely maturity and But but it's his motivation. Obviously obviously I think You know like I said I feel like he got new life and then You know just going to Lsu and starting from scratch and he fit the system. I mean there are a lot of things that worked for him but Like I said I think the ability obviously was always there but man he has blossomed in the situation relation or in the in the program and the situation that he's in but But yeah definitely it had to do maturity but I feel I feel like looking back. He didn't feel like he was gonNA play in now. He was just kind of killing time putting in his time waiting on. Jt graduate and then any didn't Then he didn't earn the job there which is shot. I remember the story broke his hand or something when he was competing with May may may have been with with JT. But that certainly Costume Hey thank you very much for sharing that. John is up next in New York. Hello John Mister Fromm I was just curious. which result would say more about either program in the upcoming bowl? Game between in Michigan and Alabama. Would Jim harbaugh being able to topple Nick Sabin or would Nick Sabin being able to win without to when Moses and probably a few guys we're going to sit out the game I don't see Nick Sabin being affected Very dramatically by winning this game. He nearly pulled off a win at Auburn. and which is a much tougher team a much tougher environment and then new New Year's Day in Orlando. I think this is really all about Jim. Harbaugh even though This is a Devalued Alabama team for Harbaugh. It would be his signature win at Michigan and I think he would he would feast on it quite a bit in the in the off season or thank demystifying. Don't thank you for calling. I appreciate that and can you imagine Larry of Jim Harbaugh Beats Nick Sabin in the citrus bowl. Yeah I and white to hear you trash Cyberman like you normally. Do you know squirrels rob man. We can't say nothing y'all over US you know. y'All you telling me that this show is in in in particular are censoring Alabama fans ends no crashing. That's rationing Alabama fans. Yeah try why would you. Why would you possibly say that or how could you oh man just like La Jank? I mean yeah like the worst is the first half. We lived quarterback but you you don't mention Internet as a reason. We only talked to look at look at. How did I would? I take order back time and Dan. You guys didn't go to overtime because You had a MIS kick. Yeah but the point is we took Lsu to the roques. But you won't give nobody no credit just like me you slam may cut me off short doll me and you nate apologize right now. Larry D.. Remember this job. Do you remember the score at halftime the Alabama. LSU Game No. It was thirty three to thirteen. What was a hand in school with any scores? Forty six to forty one Last ride but did we lose quarterback so we gotTA Bammer. Excuse me Obama Fan now bragging about only losing at home home to Lsu by five points when you were down by tying the game. We lost our quarterback we back. Take it up. Larry Larry Larry. I'm not apologizing you too. It's quarterbacks to Tennessee's quarterback yet hurt. You're not the only team that lost quarterback all you do is trash US Bama fast might this show brother. LSU Fans don't much by being heads down there one got ah nothing when buzzers gone is going to be another swamp brat down there. And here's your quarterback who's my quarterback back the best one in isolation guarantee you ever who Simon Buying Center brother. Hey going to be the man Jack and they stu do I this coming year. WE'RE GONNA kick somebody out way playing around the mole Larry January after Clemson teams and beach about twenty eight with your starting quarterback high. Check it out as oh new not dollars worth of news because Alabama Alabama has ranked teams. Well what about when we drove up down a failed by oh talking way drove him down. I'm sorry about that. Who you top recruiting? Oh how about recruiting right now. Paul how can we looking Same as you always look look good you damn right Jack. I wouldn't say he's dumb. You Apologize Squirrel and me and and how we keep me pretty well. I'll apologized anyone. I'm wrong about I'm not wrong about you and I'm not wrong about squirrel. Oh Oh you guys are turned into some sniffling bidder Bama fans how about the Dow. What do you turned in too? I'm the same same person I was when the year began. I didn't think this who's going to that much fun. Talking to Bama fans. I need to turn my. I got my Bama Tie on today I. I don't know what else I need to do. We'll be right back on the Bama show June listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Go Back Yeah. We are here and look to get some more calls at eighty five to four two seven two eight five. Greg is up next in Athens. Alabama Hello Greg. Hey Paul thanks for taking my call. I caught the tail. Fill end of your conversation with Guy David. That was really interesting. That was talking about. Now you're talking about the market Birmingham and and And the and the rise of SEC football contracts and and the difference the networks and it made me think about you know this talk. That's still ongoing about Playoff expansion and I know you're a student of history and you have been back and forth on this various times as most of us happen and looking at the eight teams that would qualify this year under that scenario. It doesn't make the game any better. And so sometimes I think people who are in favor of expansion or confusing equality of outcome with the quality of opportunity because those are two very distinct different things. Wouldn't you agree absolutely. Yeah so you know just a desire is to make the sport better. I've been let's make the sport better. If the desire is to appeal to casual fans it's not going to work and you know well you know we're not college basketball. It's different animal. And I know that people want other regions to be invested in the playoffs when the opportunity arises but not everybody is equally invested in building a championship team As say Ohio State Alabama Lsu and Clemson are and so how can you expect an equal outcome when you're not Investing equally appreciates call. Thank you Greg Always good to hear from you. John is in Memphis. Hello John and good afternoon fall. Thanks for taking my call. Thank you I'm just this thing about the college playoff It's not gonNA happen over the next contract of and whoever picks up all that money which is seeing is GonNa probably insists insist that all the conferences are included. And there's an old saying you can't legislate respect. It needs to be earned and in football. Aw It's earned on the field and so I know they're gonNA probably go eighteen. Whoever pays all this money is going to want maximum exposure? Is there any way. Ah Somebody could write. It says find but they've got to be the best teams. No no listen if you follow college athletics you will know one thing that if it expands everyone will get a ticket into it meaning every conference. All the power. Five conferences will get a seat. The group of five will get a seat and they'll be Let's see that's There'll be there'll be an ad larger roger to that. That's the only way that all the conference commissioners will go along with it and they're in the reason for that is you can't if you're part if view if you're if you're one of the five families of college football Larry Scott of the pack twelve. You can't miss it every year and be happy so so you'll see that that division that conference pushing it The big ten had has been left out a few times. They're in this year so they won't be as eager bigger but that's where it's GonNa go. SPA call do appreciate. Eric is up next good afternoon. Eric in Ohio. Thanks for being here all right there. Paul first time long time Do a great job Thank you big ten number. I was the big ten network network it as good of a job. I am a Buckeye fan but a trust me a check out the SEC. Network if i WanNa Talk College. Football is more entertainment. I mean we we try to Louis and we try to position ourselves to do that and I I know what the knock is. It's only sec. But it's not only Esi. We had matt rule on yesterday We've had the navy aby coach on today. We'll have the army coach later. I mean we we we we try to spread our wings. A little bit and Hopefully we'll have some more coaches on as we get ready for the playoffs. Well I think most college football fans would rather talk other teams fans. I mean who wants to sit around and talk each other about how great their team is. I mean I'm I'm not really here to tell the south about the Buckeyes I think are very news. Well I did. Yeah about some of the conference networks and I realize I worked for one one but I mean you you have to be taken seriously and when there are things that was one of the templates for this network we're not according to be the Investigative wing looking into dirt. But we are going to comment when things go wrong well. I think you've found a winning formula right. Now somehow. Have half the Alabama fans thank. You were their biggest cheerleader and the other half thinking you hate them and you could probably stay the same thing about Georgia. CLEMSON IS STATE AND UTAH. Definitely Hey Eric thank you very much eight to run but we have a guest waiting very important guests. Jeff Monckton who is the head coach up it West Point He's had quite a run lately against navy. We had the Navy Cochon early coach Mark. Thank you I know. It's a busy time but I think everyone in this country cannot wait for Saturday and What's it what's it like getting ready especially with such a lead long lead time between the last game and Saturday good afternoon sir? Good good afternoon and I and I'm thrilled to be on the show with you. Appreciate the opportunity it's What a game? There's nothing like it and We're we're excited to be able to to be a part of America's game and and They're they're this rivalry is like nothing I've ever been part of Paul and and I'm glad we got the extra time and this this this in fact we've had two weeks since we played the last time and Typically we have three I mean it is it is like a super bowl and with the the advantages edges. That that that's been for us we've been able to get healthy and when you play a long season you get guys. Nick dinged up. oftentimes you get to the end of the season and you're not looking at the same roster and and We've we've been able to to get healthy in years past I. I wouldn't exactly call us the healthiest team right now. But but We're excited sided be here and And ready to go for Saturday. And you've had such a great run especially in this game and winning ten eleven games and this year Has has the the the health of the team bidding the biggest issue for you. Oh It's been an issue and I try not to make a big deal of it. It just turns into and excuses and the fact of the matter is we haven't played as well as as we're we're capable of playing and and for us to win here. It's really hard to win a college football game but for us to win a game. We've got to play really really well. And and we haven't played as well as as I hoped we would and probably were capable live all the time this year. I am really interested Because you know my dad was in the army. Everybody's got personal stories. The first game I remember watching as a little Oh kid But but what what. What's your first encounter with this game? I mean you've been a lot of places in in in college football but What was allies to to be introduced not only to to west point and all everything that goes with that but to finally get to this game as a head coach? I had been an assistant assistant for Paul Johnson for several years and in part of that. that tenure was at the Naval Academy as an assistant so I took part in sixties games as as an assistant coach and I remember the thrill and and just the the energy and electricity in the stadium when we played those games and and then and I was gone. I was gone As an assistant at Georgia tech with Paul and the head coach at Georgia southern for four years and and there was fortunate enough to to come back here to army and When I walked in the stadium again in twenty fourteen the first game back I guess to the game that somebody was walking out onto the on on the field with from the tunnel Josh? I forgot what this salt and it is It is truly a different feeling and electricity that that that you can feel it in the air and and to be the head coach at army and to have that responsibility of leading a team into this game is is incredible because it goes way beyond our locker room. It's more than star players in our school. It's over one million men and women who serve in the United States army and their families and and and all the we represent so An incredible honor and privilege and Every year it it never gets old. It's just a a fantastic feeling. We're we talked to Coach Ken at the Navy. In you know you you you gentlemen certainly have worked together before. And he said your friends but he said I also and I'm quoting now want to beat the crap out of his team. I'm sure you that does not offend offend. You That you want to do the same. Don't you not at all the feelings. Mutual and Kevin are great friends. And that's all changed that we we we've worked together a couple of different places places and and have known each other entire careers we were. We were graduate assistants together at the University of Hawaii and And just have been great lifetime friends but we do. We want to beat the pants off and it goes for this Saturday as well and and I know that he knows that we we have tremendous amount of respect and for each other and admiration and love and friendship. So it's really It's an interesting. It's an interesting dynamic to go out there and embrace my friend at the fifty Orlando for the game and then and then go to war with him when when the streak finally ended a couple years ago I I know. Oh It's been talked about and that's been part of your portfolio but What was that like? Oh I think Paul I chain into your army with this incredible sense of responsibility to end the streak Interestingly enough I it was on Paul Johnson staff at Navy when the streak started so. I really felt that it was my duty to to somehow find a way to end the street and And I didn't do it. Our players did it and it was just a raw determination in our program to get that done on to to to find a way to victory in this game and and And when they did I I can tell you those just absolute absolute luke jubilation all around the United States army certainly our campus in our locker room. And it's a great sense of accomplishment and And I think just the relief and a feeling of of a weight being lifted off everybody's shoulders and Dole are our two thousand sixteen team wasn't responsible for the fourteen years prior You you still have that feeling and And you feel that sense responsibily so great great. That's of accomplishment source of pride for US and and I'm glad I ended. And it's been a lot of fun to to start our own streak but they're only good for one year and and Saturday it goes right back on the line and we'll do our best to keep it going I. The president will be there and he's been at this game before and your team of course with the commander in chief trophy of have gone to visit him but I'm I'm really interested Just throughout the year when you have the occasion to run into You know officers generals Can you name it What's it like when you encounter them? Especially after a win. Everybody is Is excited when you when you win. The Army Navy Game mm-hmm and and they are quick to congratulate and and That's that's nice. Because they're recognizing the accomplishments of our players and and And and it's it's great to know that there is such a connection between our team and and our men and women who serve and they'll they'll a lot of of our folks that are in the army have their their home state teams or the teams that they grew up following and and likely still follow them so many of them Attached themselves for the army team because of its connection to that brand service and and I think there is a a sense of pride there every time we play okay and when we win that that They've got some bragging rights and certainly no more in this game than any other coach. You've got a lot to do but we can't thank you enough for dropping shopping by this close to the game all the very best on Saturday. Well I appreciate the opportunity and I it's it's it's an incredible game aim and every college football fan every American should take this one in. It's it's it's the only game in college football where everybody playing in the game is is willing to put their life on the line for everybody watching that makes it pretty special missing credible coach Jeff Malkin from army. We'll talk to you hopefully very soon Thanks for being a coach. Thank all you got a great way. I mean it's amazing. Just listening to coach the both coaches talk about about This extraordinary game. We'll take a break more to come right here on a Thursday night. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum Finebaum show podcast. Welcome back John who is not playing in the Army Navy game but certainly the We want to talk to him about all the news. That is swirling around. Since the lane train showed up in Oxford John taught the one of the editors there's at Al Dot Com and certainly one of our favorite guests. John Thank you for being here. it's been I'm guessing it's been moderately quiet quiet now Obama since we last talked What what is? What is the buzz about playing Jim Harbaugh in this bowl game? I think it's one of the few bachup that actually could excite people. Some of the early projections for Alabama could play playing Memphis now without our bell and some of these other games. I don't I think anybody would really care about but with harbaugh somebody. Who has you know the troll the SEC has sold saving had that? Full kind of Barnstorming tour through Alabama during those camps. I think if somebody that Alabama fan no and be honest probably dislike. I think it's one of the few. You know. Marquee names names of Harbaugh Michigan. Everything comes with it that pro bowl game that General Alabama fans won't care about gives at least stuff sort of level of excitement and stuff web of intrigue instead it is against Harbaugh Guy who has poked at David poked at other people state The past couple of years. Listen Nick Sabin Beats Jim Harbaugh I. I doubt it's going to change his plaque when when when when when when it's all said and done but what if John where did JIM harbaugh finally gets a big win. And it's against Nick Saban and Alabama. I think it would be really big for harbaugh because as you pointed. What about the past? He has struggled in these big games. This is at the same level as you know a game against a higher state or somebody other teams that. He's really struggled with at Michigan. But I think it was starting to be a feather in his cap now. You know as well as I do that if Alabama loses this game people will do will just point especially in this state will just point to the fact that Alabama Obama did really care about that game and that because they didn't make the playoffs you had kind of your classic letdown game. We've seen that at the path When they've Lost Oklahoma and lost the Utah in the championship games that Alabama doesn't always come to their best advantage? This kind of almost. Don't care that they lose because it doesn't really matter the grant if it takes for them anyway. John What are you here. In relation to WHO will play in this game for the Crimson tide because they have so many players that could go in the first two or three three rounds. Yeah I think that's the fluid steak we've some that we've been certainly been talking to people about and I think you know again noting doing that it's fluid and things can change as of right now you'll see work players playing that game that maybe people expected. Obviously we know to not playing that game but I think inc a lot of the players that maybe you would have thought you know some of these guys who project in the first round that you would think would not play in that game I as of right now will play in that game and so you know. There's certainly optimism. I would say about Alabama program. But they're gonNA have a lot more guys playing that game and additionally expect this really expected guys nice who still hanging around the building going through different workouts and things like that that if they knew they weren't playing in the game they might have already stopped doing so you know when they lost to Auburn in the iron bolden Bischel expectations. That a lot of these guys probably aren't GonNa play in the bowl game. 'cause nobody's GonNa care but as time has gone on. I think we're seeing more or guys indicate they're open. It's not willing to play that game so I think we won't know for sure at least for another week or two but at least seems like some of those big big names that are projected in the first round by bell pepper and all those guys black acquaintances game even though maybe they don't have to grab doc John John. Let's get to the biggest story story this week in the SEC. And that's Lane Kiffin. Going to Ole Miss. Everyone has a theory about what this is going to be especially with lane. KIFFIN trying to cherry. Pick some coaches from the Alabama tree but the most important How bigger rivalry will this? This big between Nick Saban and lane. Kiffin yeah I mean I think it is going to be a big thing I I would say I would push back a little bit on on some of the scenarios that you know wingtip and spent time in Alabama does some of the people at Alabama still obviously and so. It's only natural. I think to want ought to hire people that you know. And so if difference interested hiring people away from Alabama I find that to be a natural thing essay viewed as born out of. You know anger or something like that. You try to hire the people that you do that our best and there was some natural ties there. I think it's going to be a robbery I think that the saw your point you know he could lose eleven games but Beats Alabama active thing and I definitely think he's going to have so a lot of energy trying to beat Alabama You know didn't really knows none of the famous proteges have been able to knock off yet. Kirby spark has come very close but a lot of them haven't and I think that kicking we'll devote a lot of energy to try to find a way to beat David and I think he is one of the best quit doing that. And it's going to start with recruiting at a high level at hiring the right people. So that's kind of what he's figuring out right our that includes potentially some people that have Alabama cise. John has nick. Sabin had anything to say yet. I know he's recruiting Now we'll end soon. But has he had anything to say about lane kiffin other than the perfunctory nick. Saban ease help. I'm sure the next time that Nick Sabin talk you will be asked about it and I. I don't think he'll stay anything of note there but I do think if you've seen The HBO documentary. I think some of the things that he said about you know guys wanted to become an kind of warning the ways leave and take a bunch of people with them. It's probably a good inside. I'd look as to how he would feel about. Wayne trying to fuck away People who currently work there or have ties to Alabama. So I mean as you well know so. It's not going to say anything inflammatory. He knows how to play the game but you know behind the scenes because he loves laying giving back the SEC. I doubt that not up and everyone has a theory on that relationship. Quite frankly you don't have to do too much theorizing lane kiffin. We'll be happy to tell you. Yeah absolutely and I think it's you know it's like you. You WanNA knock off the top dog and savings still that guy. Kirby's doing a great job avenues you're on the way up to but famous still that guy and Donald you have. That put him in. He worked for him. He receives some tounguelashing. Some statement is everybody well does and then you have the very public embarrassment. Even if they've been in a certain way the essentially telling him we don't need your services anymore or even though we're about to play that game that would bruise anyone ego and I'm certainly did forget that happened is so he's GonNa use all those different things to motivate him You know when they play Alabama and no one has poke the bear Being Sabin as he's done it a lot on twitter twitter and you know he's going to continue to do that every opportunity that he get John Tulsi always great to have him with us To digest some of the most important issues issues going on in Alabama and the SEC. John Thank you always great to talk to you. Talk to you very soon. Thanks so much. Good stuff John Salty and we will be right back We can talk about that or anything else as you. We've cleared out a bunch of guests here. Tonight will devote most of the time to your phone calls after this to listening to the Paul Finebaum. Show podcast we're here on this Thursday late afternoon early evening and Larry is up next in Louisiana. Hello Larry Hey Paul how you doing. We're doing great thank you. Thanks for the opportunity to be on your show. What a great show it is for? SEC really before around the round our nation's thank you just GonNa just GonNa call in and do a little bragging on our coach and on an NFL issues It seemed like a nation has kind of gotten behind us. And why not you got to go through the players and who loves his players Beyond beyond the football field beyond the classroom after they started real life when I graduate and who wouldn't love that and you gotta like the coach when the spring training in and did and all the networks for their interviewing he comes out and he honestly says bs look. I think we're going to be pretty good. We're we'RE GONNA. This is a key statement. We're going to have an offense this year that surprises if you'd be and may have we surprised if you people and so We I love now. I wanted to address a little bit An and as he would say little dogs. And I WANNA talk a little bit about my counterpart in Alabama Bama. If he's a with all this crying he was doing earlier. If I get his address I gladly send him an Lsu beach towel size crime. Talafar Larry in Alabama Larry I think we ought to offer Larry Ticket ticket to the game in Atlanta so he can get a good first hand view of how great the Tigers are. Well you know as an old man and I'm sixty divide up and you sit around and you learn a little bit. He Crowley wants to Every team in the nation has those announcer for those sports. I now such as Chris sale that they think it's always against them for me and a lot of fans In the central Louisiana where I live. It's a Gary Danielson was CVs vs we just use the TV out now we go to the Lsu sports and we listened to hear him so if he's looking for or Alabama down but cheerleader to happen Eleven with I'd suggest if he contacted Mr Danielsson some way. Hey what a great car. Thank you for sharing that wonderful to talk to you. Thanks for the kind words for everybody. Here we're up against a break. We have an hour to go and we hope you'll stick around.
Behavior Change for treating those in Pain with Jason Silvernail
"I don't care what your body fat is and six weeks. I care what your blood pressure is in six years and if you think about that sort of long term patients outlook about health man man it it is extremely powerful. It's a little bit like investing you invest a little bit for a long time and that money really compounds and people can make the same investment in their personal health behaviors and in their long term health and fitness and PT folks are uniquely positioned help coach and deliver that for people in a way that a lot of other folks in the medical system aren't fortunate enough to be able to do talking more about pain bray on the show Jason Silverdale Jason a great great story coming from the US Army ROTC program in the US Army in the becoming a physical therapist pissed we talk northeast Pennsylvania we talk paint science and just some insight and love his analogy with shopping grocery store tutor from ways to do it relating that to how we treat our patients so take a listen to some Jason's insight and definitely follow him online for some more of that episode has always brought to you by owns recovery Science Johnny Owens and his team a single source for certification for personalized blood flow restriction rehabilitation training eh equipment you need to apply it in clinical practice find them online in along with some research behind far at Owens recovery science dot Com and maybe take a course with Johnny and his team as they travel the country and travel the world as the leader in B F ours do conversations happen at happy hour welcome to ours forum award this is the PT Typecast Secures Your House Physical Therapist Jimmy Mackay Welcome back to the show in pain month pain awareness student entire month of pain and I like when we turn things around kind of quick we were talking with jared. Hall just the other day and during three questions we asked him who is someone that the audience should know more about he. He mentioned today's guests so I like me. Turn that around on the show today Jason Silver now Jason Welcome to the show. Hey Jimmy thanks for having me and I'm really glad all that money. I sent jared promote music turning into something useful and he's keeping themselves jared if you're listening. I'm not gonNA send you anymore. We've already talked about that. You've you've reached your limit. You can find Jason Online adjacent Silverdale and I like I like checking out twitter profiles because they force people to be brief when describing themselves and people can get pretty creative and in your as you say you're reliably rational on most issues most of the time I think so I gotTa know what something that you get slightly irrational about some of the time Yeah Yeah No. That's a good question so I think I think one of the things that can be infuriating about like people who are like mentally organized the way I am and if I'm being honest. It's it's maybe a a little bit aspiration is that I'm I'm often pretty rational which means and so rational irrationally sort of distinct from intelligence which is good because Aubrey intelligent but rationality is just that you make decision or you come to opinions for good reasons and you can articulate those reasons right logic acquaint right so it's Kinda what rationality is right so I I try to be reliably rational on most issues most of the time so I'm like everybody else. I get triggered right. I I get mad about stuff and all that and I think that the more time you spend in critical thinking I'm thinking about rationality is that is that there's a thing called the unconscious bias and that's the funny thing about the unconscious bias. Is Your unconscious right good yeah you and I try to be aware of it right and I tried to to be reliably rational but I know there are times when I lose that and there are people in my life who kind of check me that way like my wife has one and you know I have. There's some good friends who are others who were able to say hey you know you. You know you you make this big. Show of being you know making all these decisions for good reasons but what you're saying over here doesn't make them right and you're not falling in like you got me on that one so it's tough to be reliably rationalized certainly try to all open to being corrected so call me out people. I can't cleaver admitted that you can't do it. All the time right you gotta you gotTa clean that's right. That's hundred percent yeah and I think I think now especially in This Day Dana. There's actually a word for which you mentioned which was triggered. It's like listen that that thing's been around being triggers been around for a million years we just have we just like to throw that word around now yeah now. We actually have a a word that describes on some basic level right right five seven. Oh Jason we have a connection you went to university scranton before that you we lived clarks. Summit Northeast Pennsylvania are certainly that I went to high school. There is well Nice. I my radio days most of them anyway at the end of my radio career was spent in northeast Pennsylvania when you're working into rock station based at Wilkes Barre and I lived in Green Ridge section of Scranton for a couple of years and nearly so yes we're geeking out of the audience hasn't care at all but you and I are talking about Northeast Nipah as they say what. What station do you work for? I work for ninety seven nine x before that it was called the bear. Are you might have done and that's the bear. Oh my gosh all the time rock guy so I used to listen to that all the time. That was even heard you. You never know you never know that great area of the country. I Miss I miss that area. Just great people like everybody else who went to school in Pennsylvania. I don't know if you've they're on your show. We're not currently yeah yeah. She was when I first episode she's from. She's from where what's the pizza capital of the world. Oh my Gosh Gosh now soon as you done more. Now it's not done more precarious cares listening right now. These frigging clowns also old fort old court all right now. We got out of the way now. I'm going to understand where north best friends with the quiz. At the end you mentioned that you went to you want highschool clarks summit went to the University of Scranton for Undergrad school did yeah you spend an undergraduate summer juggling. ROTC training your clinical internship all the way down wilkes-barre so decent half hour drive and a job at ups all at the same time. I wanted to hear because hopefully there some students listening. What did that teach you just be in a hostile and doing all those things at once. Oh Wow I you know. I certainly learned a lot. You know it's funny. Yeah I remember having this conversation. People would come back from spring break and there would be and you know people talk about the party's they had and you know maybe the beer that they drank drank like the guy that was not my college experience like every fall or spring break. I was in the woods with the ROTC with my face painted running around in the woods with a rifle which I prefer to being on the beach with fear but that's probably aside. Thanks say I mean. I joined the army. That's the whole deal. That's that's what they put in the brochure to get me to join you. You're running around in the woods with guns and face paint. It was awesome but I think on the summers yeah I would have a ROTC training events and some of them were long like leadership assessment. That's the camps and some of them are shorter but I would also do. PT Internship of course as we all knew that's how you spend your summers later in your career I would also. I'd have to work you know br for money for books for tuition and all those things my rotc scholarship when we took me so far. I gave a lot of plasma to. I think it's definitely it's definitely kept let me from getting into trouble because I was so busy and so tired all the time that it was difficult saw the up in in Scranton I would drive down early in the morning to my my internship finished my internship at the va down there turnarounds drive all the way back and Dr Barbara Wagner who is one of our professors scranton. She actually let me use the locker. Kerr Room in the PT Gym to change into my work clothes to go work ups and I was on the I wasn't driving the truck or doing anything cool southern southern you know this. Jimmy but the drivers ups right. He's or big deal. PEOPLE ASPIRE THA driver. I was a peon. I was like measuring boxes and putting them on a conveyor bear bells and arguing with some of the people on the on the assembly line that was definitely my role at ups so there's definitely nothing important that was about as low as you came but I think it's important thing for all of us to be in touch with with hard work and with the importance and the things that teaches you to value the things that you do have and I think that people who you grown up most of us have some kind of adversity in our life my gosh who's got a perfect life none of us do. I think we all reflect on those things. I think that it's really valuable all context for what we can do what we can think about about where life is now. We're heading in where we came from and I found that that that's just really I look back now and if you were fun to laugh at it you know then to think too seriously about it but my gosh that was those are some busy summer yeah. Thanks Dr Writing News Very night and the reason I bring that it is. That's what that's what I did. That's what a lot of a lot of things. That resonate with me is things that I've experienced things that I've heard other people do which is busy people. We'll stay busy and that's an area get more done. I mean I've heard that too. If you want to get something done give it to a busy person and I think that's what the type of person also also this profession draws. That's a segue goes now as you went into the United States Army so as we record this different than the day we released this September eleven so I I I wanna say thank you for your service today and every other day not not just because you're not eleven but you had a really really interesting and unique career in the army as Chief of physical therapy at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Washington. DC which is iconic and the US Army Performance Triad Team at the office of the surgeon general as the surgeon general subject matter expert on exercise fitness and musculoskeletal medicine. Wow where do we start with. Both of those things where those at the same time. I couldn't figure out what else read debate with it'd be. You just talked to the story about how your but there's no way with you. I've been I've actually I've been very fortunate and so. Let's talk a little bit army stuff and that's always cool. I'm I'm still in the army because I am I. GonNa give you my little disclaimer. Deal talked about today. Jimmy is my personal opinion any commentary and policy position of the United States army the Department of Defense or the United States government so now that we've done that so I joined the army when I was seventeen years old 'cause as you know how you grow up and you just need people say. Oh always wanted to be a blank right go. I always wanted to be a garbage man. I think it's running the outside of the truck and my mother I go oh dream big kid and and I wanted to be spiderman turns out. Neither of those are really great careers and so the third thing would be my life was a soldier so I've always wanted to be a soldier and so I joined the army around seventeen went to boot camp like we like we had our little party up there in northeast Pennsylvania but graduated graduation party. I went home. I stopped for like two hours. I woke up and I had a backpack and my recruiter pick me up and took me to basic training the very day after the graduation party so it I went through lucky enough to get his. ROTC scholarship to give me through school and I've been physical therapists in the army percents. I'm coming up on this. This next month will be twenty twenty eight years in the army and I've been really fortunate to do a lot of cool things I definitely worked in the office of the Surgeon General on the performance triad and I think that the army's as performance triad is the concept of sleep activity nutrition. You'll get three things yeah and so the deal is is that we were helping the army toward a more holistic holistic health and fitness concept and of course we love acronyms in the army so holistic health and fitness and teach you. WanNa know it's H. Two so what we're really trying to help the army hit it toward a more holistic approach to healthcare but clearly clearly connected to where the sciences and that's Louis. We're got exposed to all the Great Science on Health Coaching and health behaviors and the impact of health behaviors on people's health and their medical outcomes which is I think think which really has been a big focus of the things I travel and teach about and the things that I'm really excited about in pt but from there I went and I was the chief of physical therapy at Walter Reed and then I was actually the chief. The Assistant Chief of staff at Walter Reed. That's the number three person at Walter Reed did that for a couple years and I just moved to recently to San Antonio where I'm the chief. Physical Therapy Brooke Army Medical Center and I'm the deputy consulting for the surgeon general of Cisco Therapy and I it just gives me a great opportunity to work who really really talented people doing important work about the way that healthcare is changing and healthcare is changing and the Department of Defense as surely as it is changing and and what we call the civilian sector which is the rest of the country right it is so exciting and you you kind of mentioned before like what is what are those busy summers. Teach me I I think one of the things that are taught me is how much how much unbelievable opportunity there is in our country and our industry and in life for people who are willing to at the time and effort in it is tremendous the opportunity that all of us are fortunate enough to have these days and certainly had been very lucky to have a a a career that has done a really exciting things yeah from running a hospital to consulting on changing healthcare and the in the Military Assiri to to to helping set policy to just the daily teaching the talented officers that work for me about how to deliver evidence but in space safe effective healthcare physical therapy and rehabilitation and how to an excellent clinic and it's it's really exciting and I'm so fortunate ought to be able to do that. That's great. I mean you can tell just by the way you're talking about. It is is how calmed I got. I got questions though man I got questions questions so when and you're the surgeon general's subject matter expert on exercise fitness and musculoskeletal sounds. That's that's a broad area like is this is the surgeon general ah the consulting with you or they calling before they write a speech. If you're their subject matter expert of something like this. How do you interact in in that role yeah so when I was at when I was in that role in the performance triad when we would roll out new policy and procedure for how we run medicine and the things that we focus on in army armie medicine and when we did that the surgeon general and her team turned to our group and we were just there's a bunch of cubicles and we would we would scour the literature we'd read the literature we would write position papers we would right we create powerpoint deck. We will come we would ref- her on what she wanted to say and we would take her feedback and be able to deliver what she wanted in terms of the content and the applicability of what we are saying you you know it's funny. I in the Department of Defense. We're in the middle of this huge healthcare transformation and the transformation is a big part of it involves hitting towards helping people live healthier lives not just delivering them medical services. Doing I mean about the difference and that that piece is huge. Everything that we we did in army medicine then and everything we're doing army medicine now it's pivoted and around and designed to improve combat readiness up our or military force and if you think about you know maybe you're sitting back there and you know you listen to podcasts and you're like wow. McKay got this guy on. He's just army army army right so when I think about military readiness how people can apply that outside the military. It's not just can I deliver therapy or medicine services to this person is how many of these people that I'm taking care of her getting back to work. How many of them are playing with their kids again. How many of them are returning to a healthy lifestyle. That's going to help them not just now but you know thirty thirty years from now. I want sort of personal trainer. I don't care what your body fat is. In six weeks I care what your blood pressure is and six years and if you think about that sort of the long term patients outlook about health man it. It is extremely powerful. It's a little bit like investing university a little bit for a long time and that money really compounds and people can make the same investment in their personal health behaviors and in their long term health and fitness and PT. Folks folks are uniquely positioned help coach and deliver that for people in a way that a lot of other folks in the medical system aren't fortunate enough to be able to do well. L. Said you can tell you leading man. I'm ready to run out through the door and take on the world as a PT. Now I wanted to ask to say thank you you for being in such positions in terms of healthcare and hospital systems in the army. I think likely that the other people in leadership positions were likely. MD's or or other health care professionals is that right like you know the people it's rarer it's rare for a physician or a nurse or a healthcare administrator relatively speaking to think that this is a big deal because it's definitely more line with what they do right. When I was at Walter Reed as the assistant staff I mean I'm hopeful. One of the things I tried to do as a realizes realizes a lot of those folks in the C. Suite or the command sweeter the you know the leadership hallway of that hospital. I was really kind of a proxy for what physical therapists are or what they do and what they know because I I work with tons of physician or tons of nurses and I work with tons of health care administrators truly dedicated supremely talented. I wanted and competent people but just did not really understand or get what PT folks were about and what we were like and I fully understood kind of responsibility that I had to try to set my best possible example and I. I hope I said I go to and I think I did pretty well like find out over time and and luckily it's not just me the military physical therapy community generally. You're full of just unbelievably talented people we have. PT's commanding being a large organization in the military and all three branches of service doing amazing things clinic commanders organizational commanders policy expert we are punching above our weight so to speak and we are pushing the military community as hard as all of you are pushing this elaine community to make sure our patients have access chats to low cost low risk base of care that works and that's what we do in PT. We'll thank you for doing that and do that. Well it just sets a good precedent right. We we can tell our our colleagues in healthcare how great we are as a profession but when you get to be in the room and you get to be in the board room and show versus tell that does a lot for the profession now in down the road so thank you for doing that. Appreciate it art through brought you on because you know it is pain month and kind of just really talking pain. You're actually taking partner on conference. I almost called a conference. It's an unconscious your third annual pain conference in Montreal Great Location Asian Pain UN CONFERENCE DOT COM with was at maxine Meshack. Yep can be out there. September Twenty Eighth McGill University Montreal Windows closed and if you're interested I mean I'm really excited to co present with Maxie. She she's amazing. She has come from like a psychology. Dan Psychotherapy background and she's going to be delivering some really really cool information and some really really cool material about how to connect with and read people and help and help establish that really important connection or that therapeutic alliance with your patients once she kind of has her piece. I'm GONNA come in and I'm going cert- helping people and I'm gonNA deliver some tools that they can use to help coach people toward their goals and kind of adopted coaching mindset because I think that that's something that's definitely an untapped resource we have in PT. I would like more of us to do that and so it's one of the things I talk a lot about you know when I speak and my podcast or or up on AH presentations in terms of motivational interviewing because of behavioral changes is that is that is that one of the arts of it or hey absolutely so you know for the a long time. I thought that my job is evaluation. Diagnosis and treatment of orthopedic Musculoskeletal problems in nonsurgical method of care well uh-huh turns out. I was wrong it turns out that I'm in the business of behavior change and if you're a physical therapy you're in that business too and I found that as I was going through this process with the with the performance try it in the army and I was weeding this health coaching material and trying to help people make these changes in realizing that I know a whole lot about has helped people change your behavior and I had all these ideas about how good I was at the stuff and it turns out that my ideas about how good I was did not match really well the outcome in terms of my ability to explain things and so I helped teach people principles of motivational interviewing principles of cognitive behavioral therapy they can use to adopt a coaching mindset with their patients instead of just sitting there telling people what to do how to make connection how to find the patient's internal motivation of what what brought them in that in the door to begin with and help connect what you're doing to their motivation and I use kind of those principles to help us through that. We're talking about a lot now anyway anyway one of the words that comes up a lot initial and on social media round. PT's bio psychosocial so if you're not focused on that psycho part of in how you can influence it to you know it's not it. It is a different profession right. I mean psychologists are important but you can influence that behavior through through things that are not that are that are not out of the realm over the scope of your of your practice in terms of communicating the I Jimmy. I'm really glad you brought that up. Because there's a concern I get a lot from people and they used some might my three most hated needed words scope of practice right so I think we have a lot of people who are very interested in silo themselves in to you you know a separate group and they walling themselves off from other people in medicine on the healthcare team we all know medicines team sports and we need everybody plan from the same playbook playbook and people would call that silo after awhile they'll tend to think of it as they're still under of excellence right where where I think actually the opposite so when I talk about coaching people. I'm I'm not I mean I'm not talking about making a a psychological or psychiatric diagnosis. I'm not talking about providing psychotherapy. I'm I'm talking about connecting with people communicating with them as you as you so well put and getting to the bottom of what their motivations and concerns are and using those to leverage them so that they can be successful in therapy that is absolutely something that we should be responsible for doing and because a lot of don't have a lot out of experience with it it helps to kind of have a framework and hope to have some principle you know maybe even an acronym for two and I try to help deliver that to people to get them started started. I have found that once they get people started on some of these principals they kind of find their own rhythm and they developed their own style with patients pretty well but getting started hearted seems to be the big problem. We're so used to listening to patients kind of mentally ticking down our list of things need to do telling them what they need to do in the later think there are so I know why didn't they follow my structure because you told me this really helps break you out near exactly it. That's telling instructed coach and I know that coaching is much different. Yeah I think we do. I think I wore of US could benefit from from sees things that way. I think there's a there's a very strong case to be made that our Arbil leading to help our patients here to the programs. We said has a lot to do with a lot with what is it like permission. Did we feel like we lacked permission to be able to to focus on the communication. You mentioned that tick box. I remember I was guilty of that as a student as a new clinician thinking okay okay. They just said this so I'm GonNa do this this this and as soon as they were done talking okay now. It's my turn album supposed to now. I'm supposed to show you how smart I am permission issue like you. I think impediment cycle way to look at IT I. I don't think I've ever heard of it that way but I think that as I think about it. I think you're right is that people don't feel. They have permission to do that. So you know here's another way to look got. It got about going to the grocery store so when we teach people to be healthcare providers and believe me this isn't a physician nursing community and another communities including other clinicians as well reteach them to be practitioner centric and we teach them to be a list centric so I don't know how you go to the. I don't know how you sound at the grocery store. Here's what we do. In my house we go to the grocery store and we walk through the grocery store and we see things we know we need to pull them off the shelf and we're paying attention to what's just on the shelves and hopefully what's going on in the grocery store so they don't run somebody over by car they've ever done that and then at the end of all that. I check my list and see if I forgot anything anything. We don't teach people to to interview patients the way that they that the way that shop perfect we teach the so we keeps them to walk into the grocery store so look straight down at your list. See what the first item is walk in the grocery store where item number one is pick it up then returned to the entrance of the grocery store and then and look for item number two and go down the list that way now one of the things that people often are concerned about when I bring up coaching bring up motivational interviewing to bring up kind of connecting with patients is in tell me you know that's. That's great so we're now but I don't have time for all that. I don't have tons of time with my patients page. I mean I don't know Basi- patients either but what I do know is that I don't have time to not do this. I don't have time to not connect with my patient and understand understand what their motivation is. I waste tons of time just talking at them and trying to instruct them when I could have stayed so much more time time by walk into the grocery store finding what I needed and then consulting my list at the end I've seen new clinician students as well as residents and fellows like they're not looking and at the patient when they're talking to them they're looking at their list bread eggs no and they're moving down that list and they're not walking through the store and picking. They know they need and that's the big issue. I want to teach people to care for patients to shop for groceries how you supposed to connect. If there's a list between you and the patient yeah yeah exactly right I assigned to my all my whole focus is on is unknown and what they need and what their expectations are and so I kind of walk people through some motivational interviewing principals I use some examples and stuff conversations I know they've had we all had with patients and that kind of reorient them toward this sort of principle based approach that that that really helps them focus on the patient and not focus on their list and on their rehearsal and on their check box magin how long it would take you to go through that grocery store if you just did one item at a time and he went back to the beginning of the groceries for each time that we we don't even think about that but that's exactly what a lot of the patient encounters can look like because you you mentioned that you were guilty of it too and. I'm sure a lot of people listening either started that way or still that way. How long did it take for you to recognize that change. Make it and then and then actually see see a change. Maybe maybe compliance improves was is it pretty quick when you started really communicating and actually making eye contact or making contact yeah. It's a good question I think it proceeded hidden stages so I think like all of behavior change for me. Just like behavior change for somebody. Patients is not easy and their little bits that I picked up quickly and then there are other bits it's that I had a much harder time with and some we talked about the unconscious bias before and then some that I'm I'm only coming into a couple years later so I it's something I'm still learning to do something I could still benefit from working on but for me the principle of looking at the patient and focusing on the patient and not on my list or my requirements armaments alone and just spending time making that connection that alone that made a huge difference for me and it didn't take long I mean I think I've I've had the reason I say that as people contact me after after we do teaching or mentoring or anything anything that we do formally or informally and they send me tell me about how they how they gonNA walk and people were telling me that this makes a huge difference in their practice and I know it has made a difference in mind as well and it it can happen innocent among that's kind of feel good when you when you get an email like that saying thing hey I listened to yeah. It's it's changing me and now my patience has got to be cool. Hey Jimmy that's what I meant it for. I'm speaking of this guy. I don't go to conferences for the money. Leave me. This is not a surgical conferences. I might maybe maybe I'm GonNa make enough to repair that scratch on the side of my Prius. That's right. I'm not in it for the money. I'm in it for exactly that I'm in it for people to tell me how much dave improve to ask me questions about what they've heard word so I can help them get better because we all we all could use that people helped me and I you know I feel strong need to pay that forward and it's not really what I'm trying to do. S Escrow Conference again third annual pain conference in Montreal Pain Conference Dot Com it is September twentieth. McGill University of Montreal not a bad spot to be in the fall aw is Montreal pretty gnarly never been Montreal now. It's nice. I mean you know I'm saying I've been. I've never been to Europe but Montreal feels like what Europe looks. It's like in movies anyway. It's definitely it doesn't feel like it's just north of New New York state to me anyway. Wow well I'd Europe. I've been to but never so. Maybe we'll compare note ago and hey you. You got time for three questions. We ask all here we go on the hunt seat with request ends on the PT podcasts Arias medical staffing. They find jobs all across the country. All fifty states find them online at a you are a US medical dot com. Jason the first question is if you had a chance to go and be a PT anywhere in in the country. I'm sure you've traveled around with with the army but where's a SPA. You'd go if you said you were given carte blanche. You can go here for three months and do whatever you want. Where would you go. Oh Man we have traveled a good bit in the army but there's a couple of places I haven't been we've never been to the North West or Hawaii or Alaska picking making between the three of those guys. I don't know I know I know so many cool people doing really cool things North West Seattle Tacoma. Maybe something like that that comes up a lot and we asks questions guests and Yes Aria says positions short term assignments long-term assignments new grads season professionals whatever you look for a you are. US medical dot com the the website and a U. R. US Medical Dot Com second question is a what question Jason. What's something that you read. Watch listen to either a book movie podcast something that really inspired you that you'd want to share with the audience. You know we talked a bit about. We talked a good bit about Hustle today and we talked about a little bit about opportunity any. I've been listening to some Gary Chuck Entrepreneurship. I gotTa Tell You I was a little skeptical when I started listening to Gary V so it sounds like you know who the Guy Diet and if I you know when you listen to them you think yourself. This is just one of these like Jim. It quits flick huckster. Kinda guy but I tell you what you start watching what he he has to say or listening as the case may be like that guy is really January he he understands sincerity. He understands how important positively he is. Not only the for your ability to be a leader and he understands how important it is to stay humble. It'd be successful family a- and I'll tell you what a lot of what he says is worth your time attention. Same exact thing Jason we went through the same probably like development is at the first couple times. I'm like this is an act. This is just through and then he literally he had a comment. Stop Listening to what I'm listening to how I'm saying it but focus on what I'm saying and and he just repeats. He's like listen. I repeat myself time positively hustle doing what you love like. I'M GONNA say the same stuff over and over again. Definitely worth a reader listen. He gives away enough content for free on his blog and on his podcast right. Gary V's definitely worth it. third question on three questions is a WHO question who is somebody. The audience should know more about out of I. I've got a lot of people popping into my head here so it's GonNa be. It's definitely going to be hard to to run through everybody but you you know who I'm thinking about right now. Is I'm thinking about my friends. Ever Joyce. Sheldon never run an online mentorship for people who are interested in trying to get better at helping people with persistent pain and I think that this this is one of the amazing things about being connected online can do in medicine. I mean don't think just a simple easy. Things like some of the virtual health options. Those are important in great and wonderful. It gives you the ability to connect with people all over the world okay and get that kind of personal attention. She's got a mentorship program that that she can. There's worth your time and attention. If you are worried about Oh my gosh how do I handle handle these clients and patients with persistent pain. What do I do. How do I think about it. He doesn't just kind of talk. The talk she walks the walk and her practice and she can mentor enter and help you to get where you need to go so you can find her deborah. VR A middle name joy last name Sheldon checked every joy sheldon out she she has got some great some great programs for people. She gives away some content. She's got webinars. You can watch you can find her. you know online and it's it's amazing some of the stuff that she's doing. She's really helping translate a lot of the big complicated pain science stuff and like you said it's paying week gene gene. She helps people actually practice it in the clinic on a day-to-day Basis Bob and that kind of translation that I think is missing in a lot of what our researches searches and I remember I I went to school got a PhD thought I wanted to be. A researcher turns out. I don't want to be a researcher. I WanNa get really good at translating research and helping the people who is very important. Oh my gosh and Deborah indefinitely hope you do that. You won't pain which should be. I gotTa tell you follow us. Check her out all right. That's fantastic all right. You're off the hot seat. That's three questions are having a a you are. US Medical Dot Com last thing we do. Jason is the parting shot. This is the parting shots John's. The parting shot is brought to you by rock tate. They're more than just a tape company. There are movements company rock tape helps athletes at every level go stronger longer longer with the best kinesiology cutting education and fitness support products rock tape wants people to move more and move better find them online at rock tape dot com slash medical part parting shot. Is your last chance to have either a soapbox moment or a mic. Drop moment of whatever you want. The kids are calling it these days. What would you want the August to leave thinking about at the end of this episode them to think about the big picture context of where physical therapy is going and where healthcare is going the a tremendous amount of disruption that we're only beginning to see in healthcare. We've waited hasn't even really started and of course smart we can be way ahead of. He seems to have one foot in performance training coaching and health and wellness and another foot in medicine. We are highly trained but yet we're totally accessible to patient. 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AWTR Show #743: Summer Bucket List: COVID-19 Edition
"Attention, know spouses, families and service members. It's now time for another empowering episode of Army White Talk, radio. The leading and longest running podcast of its kind awt are is doing gauge. Educate and encourage you by sharing dynamic interviews, social media, connections, news and empowering military life information. Here are your awt. Our hosts your Army Wife Network Command team. It's so nice to meet you here today. If you don't owe me, let me introduce myself I'm Joe Lean mcnutt army? Wife networks new six correspondent. You might recognize this nice. Wisconsin accent from Army Army Wife Talk. Radio I do our news stories every every week. No matter how hard I try, this accent always sneaks in. I'd say I'm coming at you from Fort Bragg North Carolina. It's a toasty ninety degrees. I was actually going to do it outside, but with the sunlight beating down on us is like now inside because. It's too hot. It's not ready. It's already hot I'm not complaining I. Wait All year for summer. So I'm happy that summer's here. In fact, that's our topic today. We're GONNA be talking about summer. But honestly before I free bit like, begin just in light of the world around us. May topic kind of seems frivolous today in so I want just acknowledged that here tomorrow. I think army, wife, network, owner, and commander Sri to know block will be sharing her heart, and truly the hearts of US on the command team at Army Wife Network. Here I don't want you to miss that but I also don't want to just miss the. Point that there's a lot going on in our world and I want to recognize that that before I just go pushing forward with my topic that there's a lot happening and that we really stand with people of Color, and we see you, and this is so heavy and so heartbreaking and. I don't have the right words for it and so I just want to acknowledge that before I get started. Okay, so let me take a step back. I had a moment of panic. You're disappointments or fear anxiety stress I. Don't know a whole host of emotions. A couple of weeks ago in fact, it was three weeks ago, my son was on a little call with his third grade family and his little classroom and his teacher said well. That's IT students. After the next couple of days were I won't be sending out any assignment and my stomach. Dropped out like. We have three more weeks. I'm not ready for. This and so here we are summer in here it whether we like it or not entirely this week. It would have been here anyway. and just this year normally I look forward to summer so much our son, I'm lucky that I work part time from home, and so I kind of able to adjust my schedule most of the summer, so that way we can fit in some fun things and Sri that. Thank you in fact. Treated said she just shared the statement, so please see that Thanks for for correcting the initial. In catching me on that. So I. Okay so normally. I'm so fortunate. We're so lucky that we explore museums. Go to parks, and we can build it in around my schedule, which is so lucky, but this summer already we've I feel like we've been in summer already because we've just been at home for weeks and weeks and weeks now like all of you. And we. I like. What are we going to do this year? So I also have so. There's that that component of it, but there's also like this fact that I've been kind of morning. Our summer plans that have already been canceled are up in the air in comparison less. We hosted family and friends at our house from mid May. Through, the about mid August, almost to the end of August every single week with the exception of two weeks last summer. We had someone here at our house every single week the whole summer. Those two weeks that we didn't have someone I was actually visiting our family in Wisconsin. So so it's like I'm so bad because last year we had such a great summer to look forward to another summer. I'm feeling kind of like. Hey, you know it's summer cancel. That feels like it's canceled. If I had to guess I would guess that maybe I'm not the only one who feels this way. I'm imagining some of you also feel this way, and so let's first degree summer is not canceled. It's different shirt, but we can make the most the summer while maintaining social distancing. And, maybe getting together with fewer people, maybe more often whether you know spending time with your spouse and having some additional quality time with your spouse and your children or some of your best friends. So I wanted to step back and remind you that I am just a military spouse in a mom and a wife and I'm not an expert in cove. Nineteen at all you know your unique community. You know your family, so please take precautions in keeping your family safe the summer. I'm hoping to offer some great ideas for you, but I just want to stress that you know you know your family and your community best, so keep that in mind as you make your plans. If you know your identity. Go on. Some deep dives into everything. So as I kind of had this overwhelming like I, said realization that Oh shoot summers here. WHAT ARE WE GONNA? Do Parks are closed? We have nowhere to go. I decided to dig in and see what is summer going to look like and so on create? I've created what I'm calling. My Summer Bucket List cove in addition I. AM sharing it with you today. Because I think that you might be able to maybe use it as a reference, but. I'd like to hear feedback from you if you have ideas or suggestions. Things that you're planning and during the shared in the comments because I want to get that communication going in, have that conversation with you because I want to hear what you have to say about that it yesterday. My nine year old son has spent basically the whole day in his chair so I'm definitely likes literally the same chair all day. She brought a bug. He played with plenty. He played on his tablet. He watched World War Two. Staff dug into a virtual museum with World War. That I can use some additional suggestions. I'm definitely open to it, so share your ideas in the comments police. Okay so and I just realized I. I don't have up my list. Treat a thank you for posting. Because I have a list of things to share. I will be created I. Have A blog post. That'll be up on army wife network later today. Not Least Shea sometime in the next week, or so that will share all information that I'm sharing here because I just realized I. Don't have my list with me I'll I'll get that for you of Alabama to the comments, I, so. I began my research I, said I'm a deep diver. A dig deep I started with an article published by NPR that examined the top fourteen summer activities like in the risks to of up doing those top summer activities, things like barbecues with friends and neighbors All the way to traveling and so this article Kenneth is where I started out mighty so I I plan to do cookouts with my neighbors. They said it's a pretty safe thing. We do plan to invite our neighbors over for maybe outer picnic or maybe outdoor. Bring Your own everything. Happy Hour or Or Whatnot, so our neighbors happen to all be retirees, and so they're at a little bit risk for complications so I kind of envisioned hauling your chairs out to our color sack. Enjoying drinks on the deck or on the act together and just ensuring that we are keeping that sixteen. Six feet of separation, not sixteen. I'm also planning up there in a black party. This summer we had talked about it actually a little bit in our neighborhood end, so we decided. Let's hold off will celebrate big Nick Summer Nogi. We can be flexible. In fact, that's what we are as most spouses. We are flexible. If nothing else next, I plan on doing maybe. Kind of an around the world concept with local restaurants, and I'm calling it traveling takeout I. Really Want to support our local businesses, and I sometimes get sick of my own cooking so from that list of restaurants. That are offering takeout because we don't plan to dine in the summer, we just a for our family at safer to not dine in, and so we are planning on doing takeout ordering picking it up dining outside I'll frisco at a local park that we love our even just bringing it back home, and enjoying it you know on our deck in just relaxing and kicking back. Back a little bit to really enjoy that time. It also gives me the opportunity to try new restaurants because I'm so guilty of always going to the same restaurants. I'm looking forward to that our next topic, which is a big one for us, because it's so toasty all the time around here, we love a good day at the beach were so fortunate to live about two. Two hours from the Atlantic coast. We often do quick trips or even day trips. My husband and some love love love to fish I personally love the sun in the sand and the sounds of the beach, and we all up playing in the water, and so each time absolutely on our bucket lists for the summer, but we're GONNA play a bit safe will likely pack around food. Food. We already have a son with food allergies, and so we're used to packing our food. So that's like easy peasy for me to be like okay. We're just GONNA double down. Instead of having you know going to the our favorite beach restaurant will check out our cooler and fill that up with goodies for the day or I plan to if we decide that we want to. Support locally once again we will, I will look into that pretty closely before we go just to ensure that I'm not stuck in on takeout line full of people all over the place. because. It gets a little crazy sometimes in the summer. We're also may be considering rather than doing our day trips which we do multiple times, maybe considering during a little bit longer bigger trip. Renting an AIRBNB close enough to the coast that we can go to the beach. You know maybe less busy times. Use Our ME AIRBNB facilities hotel. Facilities so that way wiping down our services, and we're clean sheets or bring your own betting so that we're keeping ourselves safe at an AIRBNB or safer, but we are aren't using facilities, so that's kind of up in their. That's kind of where we're. We're at with that one another great thing so my next point off the beaten path. I love finding little hidden gems, and we are so lucky here in. North Carolina to wear like I said before we're two hours from the beach. That's on the east, coast, and then if you go further west you're just maybe about three, maybe it three hours to mountains sometimes less if you want smaller mountains. Awesome awesome location to be in like, I love North Carolina so much for that reason, it's such a great space to be and so many things to explore, but that also means that there are a lot of people are exploring too, and so to combat that I'm working on compiling some locations in with an hour radius two hour radius from us. That maybe aren't quite as popular to do that I. primarily use trip. Advisor the forums that they have. There are fantastic and then I also use Google where they have the reviews, and they show they show like what times are the busiest. I! I've already said this. I've kind of go down that rabbit hole super easily. But some sometimes in those reviews and the forums you find these really good little nuggets and tidbits about if it's like an area, someone's like hey, check the savage, usually low traffic area, or this is a really hidden agendas special to our area. You find those those forums and I love finding digging. Those those are been some of our best experiences and finally my big one. We're planning on taking some virtual tours. One of the best things I've discovered the last few months are these tremendous, just incredible online, or like resources that are there for us to explore things like zoos and museums and art museums history. Aquariums. There are so many of these little treasures that can be exploited from the comfort of your couch, and so what I've decided to do is create a tourist for our family. My son and I will virtually explorer. A different location each week, and so I've created a whole. Kate. I'm not personality, so excuse my spreadsheet skills, but I'm not sure this with you. Actually Alterra link with you, too, so if you want to make it your own, but I've broken this up by week so across the tap I have the day Anna topics so next week. We are exploring naphtha because I. HE LOVES SPACE IN OUR. House Is. Big Hot stuff right now. It's so fun to watch all the big stuff going on and and the new era that we have happening so on my list. I have local things to do so I'm hoping I'm hoping to plan stargazing night. To kind of fit with our NASA theme in House. I found some great science experiments analysis website, and they have some virtual tours online that you can explore necessarily has I mean we could probably spend two months on NASA truthfully, and then from there. I'm hoping to use our library. They have like a order online and pick it up resources so that way we can supplement some of the online resources for finding and maybe a little off the screens because we're a little little. Little Heavy unscreened these days, and I personally have just created some questions that we can discuss throughout the week and explorer, as we're going so like what's The new dragon like? How do those new spacesuits work? If you an astronaut? What would you bring with you to the international? Space? Station, and so I've created this whole. It's once again I. I made it in Google docs. I'm not a spreadsheet. I'm not tapei alive. But I have that just a case. You need a little direction. Are you want some help? Because I felt so overruns, I thought you know what having a theme each week at least gives us brings us back to something and has us working towards something together, and so one week. We're GONNA Disney. Disney has rollercoasters that you can do for virtually obviously, there are a million Disney recipes out there dull whip. That's one of our top ones that we're going to be making. When it gets to Disney week, we'll do Disney music blasting that and maybe watching some. Some Disney movies, and so we're just GONNA try Cherry that theme throughout the summer, which is something probably would not have done. had I've not been forced into it. We would have just gone with our usual park. SPLASH PADS and pools, and why not? So this is a really good opportunity for us to get some cultural experience in dive deep into different things that we really enjoy additionally I have some extra resources and I cannot believe I'm so sorry I forgot. On this facebook live I. I always get a little nervous I'm not gonNA like. Get a little nervous during these and I. It off the side, but I'll post into the comments. Additional links one is the Harvard. Gazette. You have They have a linked to how to have older fund in the covert area. Arab. Keep your distance. That was a really good article that I read they list of. Virtual museums from business traveler huge lists that was great. Good housekeeping also had a list of virtual tour that were great to review the National Aquarium in Baltimore has a virtual tour and then another really cool one was insider dot com shared national parks. They have virtual to your some I. The national parks and so of mill fossils. We are so fortunate that we've already learned how to roll with it right like. Military Life if nothing else has taught me to be flexible and I'm so grateful for that, because rather than feeling frustrated or overwhelmed about this I so looking forward to summer. It's different, but it's GonNa be Great. I hope that you'll join along with us and I hope that if you have some suggestions or comments to add that, he'll suggest them to me because guess what by nine year old sons back in his chair. We need some help. Have a great day. We'll talk soon. I really enjoy spending this time with you today. Thank you for tuning in to army life talk radio, the views and opinions expressed in our show. 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Kobe Bryant dead at 41...Life is short
"It was everybody before we start the twenty minute morning show. Let me tell you about anchor. If you've never heard of anchor this is the easiest way to make a podcast so let me explain Blaine. It's free there's creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or your computer anchors going to distribute your podcast for so it can be heard on spotify apple podcasts and many more you can make money from podcasting with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast and one place so listen. Download the free APP right now or go to anchor dot. FM to get started and now stand by for the twenty minute morning show from our studios in Charlotte North Carolina. This is b.j Murphy on the twenty minute morning show for this Monday January twenty seventh. Everybody's still reeling from the death of Kobe. Bryant Kobe Bryant is dead at the age of forty one he he died in a helicopter crash. Flying over Calabasas California on his way to the basketball clinic that he and his daughter were running in. His daughter was a prolific athlete. She was in the plane as well. Gee Gee as she's known by and eight others were on the plane who perished and everybody cannot believe that Kobe Bryant is gone. I wrote this on my facebook page. I wanted to just say this briefly. Because how's the crew. We're going to get together and do an analysis on the life of Kobe Bryant. Later on in the twenty minute morning show For today once once we record but I said this Kobe Bryant is gone. His daughter is gone. His wife and remaining daughters are left left alone in this world. Brothers and sisters. I am a man who has lost. All of his family members like so many. I grieve often in the privacy of myself. The loss of life is heart-wrenching. The only thing we can do is to give each other the love that we deserve from one. Another that Kobe's death breath be a call for us to run into the arms of one another and serve each of 'em be humble and drop are false egos us before our time comes. We must learn from death. Death feeds life. If you understand have the courage to love. Even if people don't love you back this is the love Christ is trying to get us to challenge. People are fake love. Let's be real. He'll put another facebook post on. I wanted to read it to you as I was lying in embiid just looking scrolling through my phone I said as we born Kobe. Bryant's death. Let's remember that tomorrow's never promised to us. Yes we must spend our lives in the way of God and express our gift to the world like. Kobe did with his talent. All of us have a rendezvous with death less reflect on his death as a call to action for our own lives and then I put Hashtag time time and how we use it and the time and how we use it as exceedingly important because we do not know the day or time that the give of life will call it back and just like that. Kobe Bryant is gone just like that and the twinkling of an eye just like that. I wrote another post I want to share with you. I said life is short. Every moment you are alive is a sacred moment. Spend your time loving your moment. And God's universe and inspire others to bring the God inside of them out for the world to see Kobe. Bryant expressed his God hood in his life as a world class athlete. What will you give to the world tomorrow? Fill your life with truth and love for God has created for what God has created out of his mind. That's all of us when God takes good people away from us. He's doing something for the human to ponder and I put in quotes your lives are not your lives. They belong to me and I call interview back and the twinking in the twinkling of an eye to where it all began. This has got talking and then I said so again. Love is the best protection against the fear of death for love. Cast it out all fear. Don't be afraid to love. Love show show unimaginable. Love to your spouse your children in everybody that you come into contact with for you do not know when you're rendezvous would death will occur but when it does you can take the sting of death like a soldier and the army army of the Lord and that's what it's all about. It's about showing love to your fellow brothers and sisters every day Kobe. He is not here anymore but we are here and one day. You won't be here and yes I mean you know so shocking. When we got home yesterday afternoon my son was scrolling through his phone and he just just screamed out? No no no you know what's wrong. He said. Does it. Go on your phone going your phone and I want my facebook page and I post I saw was about the death breath of Kobe. Bryant so death is inevitable. I don't want to sound more on the podcast but we have to talk about it. But we're going to get more into it later with the group when we discuss The life and the death of Kobe Bryant one of the greatest it is athletes ever to walk the earth with the greatest work ethic of any athlete. There's been documented. I mean it's just his. His life is just incredible. You know a working out at three. Am Four am to get better and more proficient and put more distance distance between you and your contemporaries is just an outstanding work ethic that we should all follow Kobe. Bryant rest in peace brother. We're going to follow up on this podcast at just wanted to get something out to let you know that You know we own the Cason. Jason we want to express but God has put us of the life of Kobe Bryant and share some information. Not so see you on the next episode of the Twenty Minute Morning Show. We're GONNA get in-depth and talk about Kobe Bryant.
Jandera Simmonds - Singer, Songwriter, Poet
"This is the blackout podcast. I hello blackout podcast. Where I get to talk some easing people that do things and to have John derozan's thanks for coming on the show today? Thank you for having me. I'm really grateful to be here. I mean first of. How do you get into writes in? Poems I probably wrote my first poem when I was like seven years old Probably actually more Tation because I'm into weird things like that but I didn't get serious about poetry until a couple years ago when I started going through a hard time and then it's like poems just kept flowing out of me I'm really used it as a way to get out like some interactions i-it-it's and use my voice as well as you know Just a therapeutic cutic- thing yeah okay. So how long ago was dealing with this but I'd say about three and a half years ago almost four years ago I've suffered insomnia since I was like fourteen years old. So it's very hard for me to sleep sleep and then I my friend. Joey passed away. He lost his life to gun violence since around that time so it was very difficult for me. Because I didn't even expect it to hit me as hard as it did He and I were childhood friends. We'd all a group of US would all hang out together from like grade. Seven degrees centigrade nine and I ended up seeing him like a couple of months before he passed away. We were just in a bar. You know you run into like some of your childhood friends and to hear that like he wanted to join the army army and he wanted to get his life. Together and storm was great and So I ended up logging on facebook one day after hearing that somebody got shot and I saw you know it was him. That was a really hard time for me so I was already dealing with my insomnia India and then you know just finding out that he was gone. He's even younger than me. And you know knowing that he won't get to see his family they won't get to spend time with him he won't get you have children or do all the things that he wanted to do and it just. It was time for me. I can't even imagine. Imagine that In so writing the helping you so I actually didn't start writing poems right than in there. Her I kind of There is a couple more things going on. Like my sister who I've always had a tumultuous relationship recently moved home after that art and I still wasn't sleeping and So it was just kind of like one thing after another I started I started drinking more heavily. which I would I wouldn't say I was a complete drunker and alcoholic but just for me it was a lot and and Yeah so it's just. It became some way to cope. And yeah well so. It's things are pretty much piling on each other one thing and the next day and then the next thing and before poetry way you you go manny away from drinking. I'm guessing. Yeah I've always been like a singer songwriter so I love music. I love singing winging and things like that. I've been writing songs. Probably since I was four years old though his parents and stuff my parents would go Out and I'd be at the baby sitters at my grandmother's and I'd make up little songs. Like Mommy Daddy I want my Mommy Daddy. That's the work will win a grammy for. But it's something so and then Like I said when I was fourteen verse start going through Insomnia I was writing law then too you so like I've Kinda pick it up and put it back down and so on but usually the times when I'm stressed out. The most going through things is is when I I find power in the pen so powerful and Do you remember if the Euro Upon I mean I guess Oh in the spirit I probably wrote a poem about my hair. Would've oh you hey just like trials and tribulations like being an African Scotian woman And like dealing with it and you know the choices that it doesn't seem like a big thing but it's part of your identity which is part of your self health and so on and you know people make big deal over your hair sometimes sometimes more so than you make yourself you know especially certain other cultures and so on sometimes they wanNA touch it they want to know. How do you get this style al.? What's going on here and you're like well you know? They're gross. Wash it comb it you know so. That's kind of funny so I think you actually can't recall. The I mean you wrote about was the first thing I wrote during this difficult. Talk seeing the actual I wrote from this time When I was seven I wrote a poem it was like I said more of an incantation but it it was like the The darkness chills grows wonder once. Oh great shelby powerful. Nobody understands the sunset. Don't know where I was going with that. Or they came to me that yeah I can still remember it. I'd seven at seven. Wow and then so you wrote with thing Joe. Hey and they said a lot of things coming out of you and so we just writing it down we sharing when you want was it online so during that time I started seeing someone and you know we were good. At first I thought and then Talk about six months onward. I realized that he was in another relationship with a woman who had been with for nine years and they were engaged? First and foremost I respect relationships and I definitely respect the sanctity of marriage but that was something I was unaware of So through that process process I was very angry very sad very hurt and like even now I started to like go back in that place when I talk about it and So that brought a lot of creative juices out of me like I just started writing writing writing poems. Vote everything Yeah Yeah and then how long from right forms to hold anything decided decided sherrod like putting out there. It's talk about maybe a month and I just like I said I kept writing and and My best friend. I was over at her house. We were talking just assessing things and she was going through a bit of a hard time to your both going through breakup at the same time and and I just started sharing with her some poetry. You know she's like wow this is really. I'm like yeah eventually you know. I WANNA do a book but you no. I wasn't in the right frame of mind to be you know even doing that. I was just doing it for me and eventually I just started showing more family and friends and I I did post view things online at my facebook at the time and you know the results have been really powerful. People really seem to enjoy my writing really happy about that. How will you show me instagram? Okay so my instagram is kind of a bit of a melting pot so depending on the day you might get a different version of me I usually like to share things about my nephews and about working with kids so if I find it mentioned that day I work with children. I really enjoy it most of the time. Yeah so it's become something that really helped me. It's like if I find a quote that I like or the situation that I'm going through. I just think something's funny. I just share it with my friends my family and my audience and you know and actually let's go to work kids. Would you do in doing that so when I got out of high school or even before I got out of high school because I started via coop program I started working at a daycare and so I did that for a couple of years and then I left the daycare and I started working for cleaning service risk and I ended up injuring my rib and couldn't work for a while so it was actually after this whole situation after like struggling with insomnia and and my friend passing away and then having been heartbroken than finding out that I suffered my first miscarriage. Where like that that time where I was in writing the miscarriage rose was even personnel? It was so there's layers on that too It's like Yeah so anyway. That's like I wasn't working for a while because I injured my rib so it that became part of my therapy was. I realized that I wanted to start working with kids again. So I got back into it and that also really helped me do so. That's like a job. You do day job. Yeah so I work at a school. What age ODA kids? So I typically work with Seven and eight year olds Joyce renolds talk about time. You don't have any fields. Yeah that's the thing right like it gets annoying at times and hectic deal with especially when you have like fifty of them that you're dealing with at once but it's like it really does teach you things because you're like okay. Well well there are so raw that age. They don't have the societal pressures and they're not putting on for anybody so it's like if they're angry they're angry if they're happy they're happy. You know what I mean and that really teaches you to should be like raw. Because you're like wow like why are you hitting this person well. They told me they didn't want to be my friend. What I mean like we in act like adults in society? But it's almost it's it's really there so genuine you know what I mean. So it say Yeah Elementary School and junior in your high combined so I do get interactions with the older gives as well. So that's until teenagers a walking kid those take you bots. You'll solve daddy aged you kind of reflects on your age kids. They're teenagers well. Yeah that Working with teenagers is your shows me that I probably should have been a little kinder younger but definitely working with kids. In general I just feel like it does does because there's things that they're going through or even little things that they say and you remember okay. I remember doing this. I remember thinking that way when I was that age. Or you know like I remember like when I didn't have a care in the world and I was just a kid who's out here just playing with my friends. You know what I mean so it really does I think on different stages in your life and how you went from that place where you are now you know what I mean. I don't know kids. I wasn't a good kid. Well you work with adults and that's harder I. That's harder for me to do. Oh yeah well I well for you. Yeah Yeah how do I mean in terms of like. It's it's harder for me to deal with adults. Take a temper tantrum child who takes the Denver Tantrum. What are you like old thing happened of with? Yeah well. Liberal shooting happened off in the middle of people if they do then the needs awesome talking to eat some talking and how important is family. Family family is very important to me. I was looking up to grow up with a wonderful family. You know of course at times. There's there's difference of opinions and you know there's times where you feel like you need more of something that maybe someone's unable to give you but I'm really happy to have a good strong family base and I'm really grateful. You know I happen to have tools or sisters younger brother father and a mother and so on. Actually my dad is been very instrumental in who I am today. I'm positive I wouldn't be half the woman. I am half the person I am without him. Why did you see that? He's just wonderful man. I and he's really taught me to be a free thinker and to question things and he's always told me. CHOOSE TO BE SMART. You know what I mean so I it really I take that with me everywhere I go. It's always great to hear stories because A disease do this MS signing not some people bring into especially people. Oh block coulter notifies there and right right away histories leg thoughts like you know. It's just a misconception. That essentially portrayed in the media as being in you know media is so so powerful gray get sean one thing enough you start thinking Oh yeah might be what is high. But that's the norm. Yeah right yeah. Media media is there to bring a certain platform certain idea certain perspective in your mind and I think you have to be mindful that like what you subject yourself to whether it's a radio station television a podcast movie a documentary. It's like everything has an angle and you have have to look at that and you have to see where everything fits like in your mind and in your life in society as well as you know your level of consciousness and then I just really feel like. That's one of the biggest gifts that he gave me was questioned. Things look at things like make sure something makes sense. Oh you don't just take what people aren't giving you and In terms of like the black community or like people African descent. I really feel like it's it's more than norm to have your father there to have a good family base. I feel like when people are like. Oh most people don't have their DADS or they don't have this in someone or it's a broken family. I think that is like a media construct and I think you know if you spent time in the community if you talk to these people places and go to these places. You'll realized that most people you know that's not the case and you know it's doing far in between and what's most important is love and if you look if that's what you're looking for are you will surely find it. You know what I mean. Yeah and his his one. How how is it? Navigating beginning live in the city being African caution Well there's definitely times where it's difficult I think. Sometimes people feel like because you know. It's not the Jim Crow era or you know we're not enduring slavery slavery that Racism doesn't exist prejudice don't exist and things like that That hasn't been my experience because I I seen feel these do things every day walking around as a woman of Color And I'm very honest about that but it's like you it does become normal normalized at some point. It's like these things are not new to us. So it's kind of like it's it's not dramatic dramatic when it happens and I hate to say that because you know I have gone to stores and been followed around you know I have had people like WanNa look in my my bag and so on or people WANNA look at my ticket but let five other people who don't look like me go. You know what I mean so those things definitely get hard hard specifically I have two young nephews and you know I like to take them out and do things with them and sometimes it. It really saddens me when I see like make things happen like that in front of my nephew who seven. And he's asking me questions answered Darah like. Why did that happen? And so on and it's like I have to be honest with him because he's GonNa face these things too but it's like it's very difficult because I don't want him to have to face those things so early and I know you know because of society those are conversations that we definitely need to have an. How difficult is it having those conversations? It's very difficult because you know I. I'm always honest with him. You know what I mean like. I don't like to lie to anyone much less like children. So it's like I'm always honest and I just answered things too like the best of my ability into what he can understand. So it's like you know there's all kinds of different people who in the world and some people don't like those differences or they may have been taught something different in. That doesn't make you a bad person. That doesn't mean you're doing is wrong on but you also know the right things in the ways in which to behave and it's like you know People aren't always GonNa like you sometimes. It's for the right reasons. Sometimes for for the wrong reasons you know so and I think when it comes onto right I mean you you you all you can just show you our people. People will asset that are not right and easing really reflect on you. I don't think so because people said they want to see fats. been like the biggest realization for me. I think is people can only accept what you are or what you're doing at their level of of understanding or at their willingness to want to understand right. That's been huge for me. I'm finally getting that that like sometimes. It's nothing to do with me. It's all that that person or their experience or what they're going through at a time for their capacity love so it's like and everyone's fighting having a battle everyone has one thing to do What was the last time you wrote? I write things all the time I throw them away. I'm like no you know what I mean. Yeah everything's all the time Last time I wrote something good subject the last time I wrote something. I was proud of. probably bill. Maybe be six months ago. Oh yeah why. Why woman you proud of being I just I don't know it was truthful. I the things I tend to write about our true experiences that I've had or or true feelings or you know so it was raw and vulnerable and I think it was exactly what I wanted to say at that time and I think regardless of what I was going through at the time I was proud of that because it was authentic to me do you. Do you ever have have moments where he writes on and is so heavy that You decided not to shape. Yeah Yeah Yeah. There's a couple of those and sometimes you write something so heavy that you need to get away from it. You need to not think about it. You need to not read it you just like wow I need did. I can't confront that right now and then sometimes I come back to it and I'm like okay now. I could work through this. You know what I mean but yeah. There's definitely some heavy things that I write that I haven't shared with anybody anything you know. I think personally since I right I know that does make sense to you and when people really always gonNA take it out of context no matter how you explain it right yeah yeah So with the kids. What are some things you try to teach them Manners thank yous right but morals first and foremost ray like I try to be for example of that so you know there are kids. That aren't under my specific care. Who will come up to me and ask me questions? Or they're having a problem with another student or another adult in the school. They'll come to me and asked me what I think about that. And you know though they get busy at times and I'm trying to do other things. I really really appreciate that because that tells me you know they feel safe with me and they trust me to handle the situation so I feel like I try to be that person who they can come to and the type of person that I think I would wanNA talk to. You know what I mean. I try to be opened in. I try to tell them the right thing to do. As opposed to the wrong thing. I think sometimes in life when you know we we've done something wrong sharing something with somebody like well. You shouldn't have done on this. That doesn't really help me. Now I like to say well you know. I'm sorry that you're going through this. Maybe you should try doing X Y and Z. You know what I mean and focusing on the solution to the problem I think we will have. It wasn't a problem others. I don't WanNa see Dick's now if you know I I guess I'll just raising away. Where if you're not bringing things to fix this thing whatever you bring need bringing to the processes just making things worse rate is often done this work? The obviously the person knows this right. I'm coming to you. How do we fix this because we let? Oh yeah because you did the you know so. I'm like if you're bringing solution. I guess the basic on DVD obvious solution on. Just listen awesome right. That's something I've learned to like. Having suffered miscarriages is this. Yeah I thought news one But something I learned during that time and is really that you know a lot of times. People don't know what to say and and it's kind of a elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about it and I know sometimes like I just need to. Listening era need someone to tell me. You know. It's okay but a lot of people are like they shy away from it because they don't know what to say or they feel awkward about in and it's like it is something that happens. Says natural as living in breathing is reproducing in creating a family. It's like there are You know there's things along the way to that. Yeah well I'm sorry not fine and this this was one of the issues are sometimes 'cause we are comfortable pushing the heavy things away right this push it away and so ooh the way to handle it. It's just literally handle it or talk about it all bring into the focus. If you you keep piling it away one is going to be so high. There's no police security like that. Yeah Yeah Yeah I and the thing is you know. Sometimes they eat small right eve. You just still with a runaway is small little thing but if you couponing couponing it keeps getting be against gaming. He gets out of hand and now something carbon fixed with just a little bit of effort will take years and years in years and years and I don't think we need to talk about things and we need to bring things forward and rather than enzymes. Actually he's left sometimes this if you know I guess that I don't WanNa Sound Georgie. Or I don't wanNA sound on preachy. Or would you just keep quiet. I'm like okay on the stand rain. Yeah just keep it if someone trustee north to share something. The heavy now means your special to them. Dom is the SPEKTR enough and you should resprayed respect by at least treating them with level of respect is shown you sharing this thing man round seep quiche. No donors say I hear you mistaken. You're doing with this. Thank right. Yeah all right. That's so true though but it took me a while to to to learn the first part of that in in terms of like deal with things right as they have right as it happens because I used to be someone who kept a lot of things inside and and it wasn't until I realized allies like my mental couldn't take that that like I now I'm I try to be upfront. Non Est with everything. Like if I'm happy I'm happy of him. Sadam sad if I'm angry. Here's here's why so it's it's like Yeah because it all those things pile up and when it falls over okay. I'M GONNA end with this so with the oldest working with the kids and like poetry and everything else doing what are what are what are your future plans for everything. I think Short term. I WANNA start performing again with my singing. And so on so I'd like to really put that in the forefront because I've gotten gotten away from writing songs I've been writing poetry like I said forever but I've gotten away from my songwriting. I think I WANNA pick that back up as well as performing and in terms of poetry. I definitely definitely want to get into doing spoken word and Anderson Poetry writing contests more long term. I would love to write a book so I'm thinking within the next five years I've will be an author so that's definitely on my list of things to do and I know eventually I'll get their gender. Thanks for coming coming in. Thank you for having me on a clue myself up on. Have you read one of your point. I would love that. Thank you thank you. The D- Boy Wrestler. We we met in a bar never thought it would last my how those six months went by fast. I never told him this but he gave me hope. Even though it probably wasn't smart to be with him he was a dope. He was smart though he could work a rope. I'd never take that away from him. His Work Ethic Doc was no joke I could tell he never really loved himself. No matter the front he put on inside or outside of the house like a player he put everyone on the shelf self only being selfish looking out for himself. Oh but that's ego. I know you see it and every time you smiled. I wonder if he means it. He broke my heart. If you can't tell I'm not the only one he put through hell this one that one. I've heard the stories also seen but the one he hurt the most was himself when he was in his glory. This is where we end this story at now for lease he was the wrestler and I had a front grossi makeup to fight apology. When I'm sorry that all I showed you was anger but if I didn't do that all I would have shown you tears? I tried right to be brave but I still have fears. You're always so worried about what people think the ones we call our peers. I can handle the situation. Just not being made about someone else else. I always leave. I the Proverbial House of Friendship Relationships Lovers and family. That's only because I've been through tough situations and anticipate situations nations ending badly. I always reach out when I'm wrong. A text or call but the pain of the rings. Don't go through. And then I fall into oblivion Indian heartbroken again searching for my lover my boy my friend still would do it all over again just to feel it again. One second one minute one Our beginning to end people talk shit about me and smile in my face. I know I'm quick. I'm not quick to forget but I still see skeletons politics walking behind them all carrying caskets. This is not an apology. I tried to get through. This is just something I wrote on the fly hoping the message would reach you like a note and a bottle or paper tied to a bird love pinks for you and like a flame. It'll always per this is the blackout podcast. Thanks for listening.
Culture Gabfest: "Royal Pain In The Arse" Edition
"The following podcast contains explicit language. I'm Stephen Metcalf in this. Is the culture fest. Royal Pain in the Arse edition. It's Wednesday January. Fifteenth Two thousand and twenty nine hundred seventeen dethrone star wars at the box office. It's won a Golden Globe for Best Picture. It tells the story of a couple of World War One grunts and then the up series. The grand expose of the British class system has been called the greatest most profound most noble documentary series of all time. It's latest installment is sixty three up. Then we will discuss and finally a Harry and Meghan call it quits joining me. Today is June Thomas. The PODCAST POOBAH OF SLATE DOT COM. Hey June welcome back. Thank you so much and of of course. Dana Stevens is the film critic for slate. Hey Dana Hey Steve Let's Divan Jelly Sam Mendez is He's I think best known probably director of American beauties and bond films. He's also very accomplished a stage director. He has co written and directed the movie. Nineteen seventeen now out in theaters. It's based on stories told to him vice grandfather about his grandfather's experience in World War One. Of course the Great War was unrivaled. For its brutality and pointlessness it's known best of course for the trenches trenches. Those linear cities dug out of the earth into which armies deposited themselves then fought interminably for the tiniest patches of land until everyone forgot and why they were there in the first place. This movie tells the story of two lance-corporals given a mission that's as simple as it is nearly impossible. Emma somehow make their way through through all of that dreadful no-man's-land in between the trenches the various fronts amid burning ruins and by planes and deliver a message. Call off your attack because it's the gigantic trap. An ambush that will end in the massacre of all sixteen hundred view. It Stars George Mackay Dean Charles Chapman as the corporals and Features Benedict cumberbatch Colin Firth and hot priest. Let's listen to a clip. Single Mackenzie is in command of the second you sent lead yesterday morning. He was going off to the retreating. Germans he is convinced he has them on the run that if he can break that lines now he will turn the tide is raw title. Mackenzie has not seen these aerials. At the end of means New Line around here gentlemen. Three miles deep field fortifications defenses artillery. The like of which we've never seen before the second idea to attack the line shortly after dawn tomorrow. They have no idea what they're in for and we don't want him as a parting gift. The enemy taller telephone lines. Your orders are to get to the second. A quasi he would one mile southeast of the town of coast deliver. This mackenzie is a direct order. Call tomorrow morning's attack if you don't Lafayette massacre we will lose two battalions sixteen hundred men brother among them. You think you can get their entire. Yes Dana we should probably add that this movie is built around. You could call it a one shot. Maybe it's a two-shot I've seen. It described both ways. But it's basically meant to look like a single continuous take Quite a grand project. What did you make of a okay? If you would ask me this two weeks ago I think I would have had only good things to say about about nineteen seventeen I gave it a positive review blowing review. Yeah I would say I guess going review I would send people to see it. It's a conventional war movie in some ways in spite of that conceit eight of the of the one take which is of course as with Birdman for example a digitally aided one take that uses all kinds of CG technology to kind of mask the cuts but the cinematography by Roger Americans is kind of the star of the show. But I don't agree with many of the critics. Some of whom we we read in preparing for this segment. Who Find it to be a pure video game gimmick? That's let's for example. Solis I think Davidson's friend of the podcast he's been on our show of the Atlantic called it a this. This sort of Solis movie. That's all about the camera and showing off the technique sneak. I think there's going to start to be a backlash against it including maybe for me because of all the recognition. It's getting when I reviewed it. I sort of thought. Let's let's champion this little odd one take movie about World War One that otherwise might sink unnoticed and far from sinking unnoticed. It's now one as you pointed out. Best Picture and best director at the Golden Globes. We doesn't necessarily prognosticate Oscars but it means means is in the conversation and it starts to get over recognized. I'm going to get a little bit annoyed because in many ways this is a conventional movie in its view of war it. It doesn't really advance any new thinking about war. You could argue and I say this in my review that it is that assizes war to some extent but you could say that about almost any war movie right but I was emotionally finally moved by it. I completely disagree that it was just a soloist video game exercise. Although at times took over from the dramatic action I thought both the two actors George Mackay and Dean Charles Chapman who play these very young soldiers sent on this mission are wonderful actors. I mean there. You really see. Sam Menendezes strength as theater director and the fact that he can bring out great performances the fact that they're unknowns and that many of their higher ups are stars like Colin Firth or the hot pretender Scott Put gives you more of a sense of authenticity almost that there are these two young kids who just happen to find themselves in this perilous situation. And Yeah I mean without giving anything away about the twist. There were several things in this. This movie that moved moved me to tears and so yes I will stand up for it although I will also be really annoyed of it beats parasite for best picture or almost any of the other movies on this late. June and Dana refers to some critics comparing it to video game. I hadn't read that when I saw the movie and came out thinking that there's something about the pattern of the action that involves a central character completing a set of tasks upon each completion levels up to another. That's only that much more difficult in order to achieve leave some narrative end at the end of the whole thing. What do you make of the movie? Would you make a statement about war is a video game is an action thriller in its way. Well I have just say one thing I which is that. I did watch it in screen a form on a tiny screen on my computer and feel. That was a big mistake because that uh really allowed me to get out of the action of yeah. It's a big screen for sure. Even the second that it started I knew that but also I just didn't have that. That was not possible for me So I saw a little bit of an apology to the film and also for just being very conscious that I had an atypical response. But it as much much as that's kind of You Know Oh yeah that makes sense. It's convincing it's it's like a it feels like a smart take to to talk about the leveling that wasn't my experience of the movie for me. Actually I was very aware of it. Being a sort of a professional director of you will by which I mean the often when you have movies or TV shows are anything that's directed by an actor all they do is this like series of climates climates climates climate. And because they're kind of I think I'm projecting but I think they're imagining like those five seconds that are going to appear like on the Oscar. Show you know for their movie. And it's got to be like you know it's going to be at level ten with a peak level eleven from time to time and there was so much variety. This was a roller coaster. Really you you had this. These perils moments have peril of like. Oh my God this is this. This is the end of excruciating Hara and and pain and uncertainty will they achieve their mission and yet it did have the variety so the leveling up thing Just kind of makes it feel much more protais than I felt it. I didn't necessarily enjoy joy. This feeling of Shit. Is this all going to be for nothing. which in a way might almost be the expected outcome of a movie about the Great War which I think more than any war is considered to be just a complete waste of humans? And you know money and everything the one thing that did it strikes me was that in a war. That as we've all said you know it's the trench warfare. Stalemate the utter you know just literally nothing. Nothing is happening for years except for these hopeless pointless method of war that this is the opposite. This is an action movie not necessarily in sense sense of fighting and and and Battles but in a sense of literal movement of people moving from one place to another Through terrible perils military Terry Action and horror movie action. Yeah because it's these two young men exploring this potentially deserted kind of graveyard territory. I did find that horror movie comparison even more at because it's like something's going to something that's outside of their control this that we don't know that we can't see either going to you know almost kind of like jump Scares kind of from time to time. Unexpected things That that come to pass June. I really agree with that. I think the power of this movie derives from the kind of terrestrial architecture of the first world war which iconoclast these trenches and the in no man's land in between them a real no-man's-land like like if you expose yourself to the ordinary ground level you're slaughtered instantly It's just a landscape of incredible dread and also remarkable beauty. I assume I assume they're in France. And so you get the experience of coming above ground. And they're at moments there's Sun and trees and great natural beauty at the same time it's just completely dehumanized and and in parts of devastated all those visual images of very powerful I found the gimmick distracting. I don't I thought enhanced the movie early on because the linear already the sort of Endless linear irony of the trenches is very well described by camera. That's just eternally dallying. Backwards sometimes forward but it lost his advocacy for me as The the young men emerged out into the world And then it began to distract me slightly a this. Yeah I think is highly personal to cement as the CO writer and director because these stories arrived to him the his grandfather to whom they presumably happen. So it's the story of that family line. Not being violated by this act of mass annihilation and you feel that in the film I I think the actor playing this particular Corp. is a remarkable so remarkable performance. It's highly personal to him in his face and the experience that he's having the movie for me runs into a problem because the statement about the first World War is a familiar one and it's restated here fairly well but without a lot to add to it which is about June as you say this offer stalemate and so you can't derive a kind of ultimate climactic satisfaction from a World War One movie and so the statement of the film and the basic structure of it is an action film. Don't really work together with one another And for me at the end and the sort what of cinematic grandeur of it doesn't pay out That said I come out. We're Dana does that. It's it's a very very very good movie and I was grateful to have seen it but I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that I loved it and if I thought like it. We're going to dethrone parasite I mean. I think that there are four or five other movies that are easily the movie of the year her in its place I have to say. I know that this is the game of the movies. This is the business of the movies. But it's kind of crazy that both of you. You are kind of experiencing this movie through the Lens of this external competition for Oscars You know that both of you have said like I liked this movie. I'm very concerned. Well I think by saying if you'd asked me two weeks ago I would much rather experience the movie as the movie itself and just let it live but then it had to resurrect itself for this this conversation and you kind of can't escape it after that. It does remind me of Birdman in that way. I liked this movie better than Birdman. But in addition to the one intake conceit it also shares. I think this this may be possible path over valuation and And then subsequent backlash I can see that same anything happening with this movie and I already see it happening among my film twitter critic colleagues who are annoyed to see it getting the recognition that it is it feels to me like a personal movie as she say Steve. I feel that urgency to tell the story behind some Mendez's choices and the actor's choices as well so I have trouble regarding it as some sort of you know. Oh bill in on the cinematic landscape even if it's not a perfect movie. Yeah it's very hard to make an innovative World War One movie. We know the story I mean and ultimately this whole you know the the the thing that was set up in the clip that we heard of you know. The movie is a journey to save sixteen hundred men from slaughter ultimately think sixteen hundred men in World War One. That's nothing though. You know there were millions slaughtered. There is a of an. I don't even know like a existential pointlessness to walmer movie. There's no new points to kind of a profound humanism in that way. It's a movie about the avoidance of war. He's boys are doing all of this stuff and one of them has a brother. WHO's in this this legion or whatever you call it the sixteen hundred men that are about to march into an ambush and all they're trying to do is just save this few little handful of people so in that since what you're waiting for the big climax you were saying Steve is not going to be some sort of military triumph? We know that it's going to be saving that that little handful but honestly that was the thing that most annoyed me like the. It's like the general knew a brother. The brother thing like contrivance yeah that feels cheat whereas the whole idea of like effectively everyman. Nobody's everyday heroes. Who are who are not being heroic who have no sense of? They're not doing of patriotism patriotism. They're just doing it. Because it's Tuesday you know then for it to be the brotherly thing like Oh why do you have to do that. That feels to cheat okay. The movies nineteen seventeen. We like it may be don't love it And we'd plugged. Maybe a little patently into our Oscar Porsche racy and decamping but It's good Goosey. Then tell us about it all right now is the moment in our podcast when we talk about our sponsors de la would you have Steve our sponsor this week is dropbox. You have all probably hardly used dropbox at some point while working on a project maybe just to share and store your files but did you know that dropbox is also a great tool for collaboration at work for all types of teams take filmmaking for example the ultimate team sport when we see a great film we tend to give credit to the actors and the directors but it takes a whole team to make it behind every film. There's an army army of coordinators technicians and designers from around the world and they have to stay on the same page as they work together. Behind the scenes this year dropbox is honoring the crews of makeup artists grips production designers and so many others that work tirelessly to make great films possible. Many of these teams choose dropbox to be. They're smart workspace because it offers a suite of collaborative tools that make it easy easy to keep everyone in sync. In fact for four years and counting over sixty two percent of sundance films were developed using dropbox. You can learn more about how your team can use dropbox to bring great the idea to life at dropbox dot com slash film. All right before we go any further we typically talk about business at this point in the show Dana. What do you what do you south? Yes Steve just two quick things first of all in slate plus today. We're going to have a conversation. This was Steve's idea and I love it that we're GONNA do a little bit of Michael apted up series analysis of our own lives and look back at who we were at seven and see whether it is true as we keep on hearing over and over again in the series that gives me the child seven and I will give you the man so that will be our slate plus today and of course if you want to hear segments like that and get free podcasts you can always sign up for slate plus our membership program for just thirty five dollars for for your first year. If you want to support the culture gap test and sign up you can go to slate dot com slash culture plus and joint slate plus today and also in non Gabfest News. I just wanted to do a little little promo for my other podcast. It's my slate plus podcast. which is called flashback? If you don't know it it's just a two hander conversation that I do with K.. Austin Collins the film critic for Vanity anti-fair and every two weeks we take on another old movie with old being in our designation anytime from eighteen ninety five when the first movie was rejected until Nineteen Ninety Ninety nine and we talk about that movie in depth. That's a great conversation. I've been loving the show. It's been going on for about six months right now. Doing a little run up to the Oscars series where we each chose a movie that in the past had won an Oscar or in these cases many Oscars the I was Kramer versus Kramer. Which is the most recently released episode? You can hear now on this late culture feed and the next time we're going to talk about silence of the lambs which was camps pick. I'm a little scared to watch again. Obviously that was a big Oscar. Sweeper the movie came out so again. If you're interested in exploring flashback thank you can check it out for free right now. The last two episodes at the slate culture or the slate daily podcast feed. And if that makes you want to sign up for slate plus great you can go to slate dot com slash culture plus US and join all right Steve Back to the show. Thanks Dan all right digging right back in. Roger Ebert has called it the noblest project and Cinema. This is the so called up series in nineteen sixty four young filmmaker. Michael apted embarked on what would become an experience of a lifetime literally. He filmed a group of children as they went about their our lives and interviewed them. He's followed the same cohort now for fifty six years revisiting them filming them in interviewing them every seven years. The idea was to expose a newly ascendant ethic of the Galateri in Ism as ally and show how the British class system remained is entrenched as ever in our accents vocabulary habits tones phones voice dress and carriage in some sense children were already formed by the time they were seven now at sixty three up we can see the lifelong lifelong arc the struggles with class but also illness mental illness sexism. Racism love and the loss of love. It is a profound work of Elegy in Louvre Clip. We're going to listen to the trailer in one thousand nine hundred thousand four Granada. Television brought together a group of seven year. Olds we've followed their lives. Every seven years. The dreams ambitions and fears for the future seventy seventy s fatter. Bit less. You look at seven and you look at me. This is flamboyant Marco feel much Program cheer sixties all gets a bit. Aw Aw I look forward to every seven years. I suppose you guessed bill will tell you got less to lose as things. I've said over the years the house crying. Let me start with your of course from the UK and experienced firsthand the class system. This this project at least initially was about proving that we're doomed by social class And by our childhood to some degree what What do you make of that Thesis and what do you make of this remarkable world series of films. I mean I would never have argued with that concept I am just a little bit younger than the people in the movie I was I was born but not really Watching television when the first one was on world in action. But I certainly watched all the others until I Until I left the UK. And now I watch them as movies like everyone but You know suddenly growing up in Manchester where the show was made I have absolutely. There's no doubt in my mind that that class ruled everything. I do think though that it's it. It is different now and I think classes sense You know in having that thesis going into the movie kind of spoiled it because I think it's an amazing achievement. But we all are very clear on his limitations That they picked based on class that they picked base a little bit on on location as well They wanted wanted some country people. They wanted some city people but they basically chose extreme working class. Kind of stereotypical east enders. They chose extraordinarily L. D. narrowly upper-class Going to public school types. And you know just a smattering of others And they were very white. They were very male I actually think in a sense. The thing that I- wishful most is that the cohort was not just this cohort. I mean you can't do anything about I tip because they've got whatever it is at this point ten people that we've been following for you know over nine movies You can't have any more people. He's it's almost kind of relief. Sometimes that people drop out because it's just like so many folks to keep track of but I wish that we saw some more by younger people at different group because you know as one of the people one of the participants notes Britain has changed a great deal over the time of the series. It's a much more tolerant place at this point but there's also a lot less support. None of the east enders went to university but if they had gotten into university it would have been free they would have got a grand they actually like me would have been quite well off when they went to university And now more of their kids. It's more likely that they would go to university. But they won't get any support You know they talk a couple of them specifically talk about the NHS that the national health services now just really stressed and benefits that kind of support for people who need help is not there in the way it was in nineteen sixty four And I wish that we could see some of those younger people in similar circumstances perhaps You know how how different for them we have. To kind of project that buffet I'm blabbering blabbering because I think this is maybe the most important project project of our lifetimes. Well something I think. That asset himself has said a lot an interviews about it is that the focus of the series changed over the decades and that he now now look back with some embarrassment at how pro grammatically Classes I duNNo. I duNno class based the initial project. Was I think he would agree about this election. They only have one person of color right. I think there's four women amidst the twelve total people. Some of them have now dropped out of the some now refused to talk to Michael APP to. There's a whole back story about that. And if you do start watching the series which I think you can jump into it any point really because each one has a a pretty extensive summary of clips from earlier episodes. There's certainly no need to watch it in the serial binging way and that would probably make get sick of it right now. I really just think you should dive in wherever and then explore from there. But it's definitely worth reading some of the background interviews with APP Ted about how his own experience with these people has changed. Some of them were furious at him for decades. One refuses to talk to him and will only talk to one of his producers he sometimes pushes them In a way that feels somewhat classist or a little bit paternalistic or domineering on descending and really Ab- all revealing his interest in his views of them but it's also also that's also something I think that he's done a lot of self scrutiny about so and so many ways this project that started out to be this Top down kind of exploration like this educated man will look at this field of children and decide you know who they are and what they might become. It's really been a story of life and actual people's stories which are individualistic and unprogressive medic out pacing that project and that is something. That's very moving to see. I think as as the group gets older also once you started watching. I think I dived into this around. Thirty five Because that's it's just around the time I started watching this kinda thing is really when they came to the states to maybe twenty maybe so that may have been the first one that came as a movie to the states But you just really get attached attached to these characters Neil for example who is just one of the most difficult and lovable. People that he follows is lovable in many ways. Yeah I think or just What's what's the word I mean? He's not easy to love but he's someone that you remember and the worry it out right and He's this very sensitive sweet little boy in the first and then becomes kind of a troubled adolescent sent and there's a period when he's a young adult that he's homeless and sort of living off the land in a field sort of off the grid that he's very misanthropic and seems to be the kind of person you could just drop out of society entirely. They had a hard time finding him. I think for that one episode maybe it was forty two And in ways that I won't reveal that you can see if you watch sixty the three. He's kind of found his place and become someone who gets back to society and that's just a that's a very moving part of the series there. Isn't anyone really in the end that you don't like even the ones who are awful posh snobs odds when they were young. I feel like there's something about all of them. That is redeeming. I WANNA hear from Steve but I have to say that just in the way that As I say I'm not that different in age from them. They are older than me but not by that much. I do still feel very shaped by the same forces that apted was obsessed by so for for example. Some of the really posh ones the the ones who were clearly kind of misused in the beginning because yes they were horrible snobs but you know he showed them. He showed should one guy for example when he was Oxford. I mean come on. I'd like a little bit of a thumb on the scale but when he spoke In this time and at this point and you know he's accused sees a barrister. You know he he. But he's you know devoted to charity overseas Blah Blah Blah nevertheless. When he was speaking I gave him the finger? I was talking back and I watched it with you. I just you know and it was crazy because I knew are he's not objectionable these objectively actively not objectionable and yet my you know I was triggered by those things. Even though he wasn't saying it with a tone he actually is quite conscious. I think of of his privilege and nevertheless I was you know talking back to the screen. I'm curious about how this was screened in Britain on television as you were growing up. Was it presented so as a once every seven years kind of big television events that everyone should gather around the screen. Yeah after a while you know after the first the first two were part of welding action which show I watched every every Monday night but once it became an appointment event or became event television it was extended so I remember going home and my mom would have like taped the days? VHS She would have taped it and saved it for me. And I remember. It wasn't just one episode. It was like a series of episodes where you really kind of went into more Because I remember but once seeing one that I've seen as a movie in the state and then going back home and like just getting a lot more of it so we've been seeing trimdown versions of it this. Yeah No. I don't know if they kept on doing saying that. Because you know then I was further depart. You know. I'd more distance from bitten. Don't go and watch old old. TV shows but certainly for a longtime. There was an extended version that you got in Britain I love by the way Beagle is a verb a couple of things I mean. The first one was a huge hit in England in as as I remember reading it landed quote unquote like a grenade and the posh kids not only knew what at the age of seven what university they would go to but which college legit Oxford or Cambridge they would belong to as a matter of birthright practically and the poor kid had to ask what's university And I I think that that was quite powerful. And Dana's you beautifully say overtime it life intervenes. Right just inexorably were individual human beings and we bring all kinds of deep deep and weird shadings to our own experiences. Like super structural thematic was just always going to dissolve somewhat not entirely. He's not nearly entirely but not entirely in the face of that. Individuality expressing itself. I I love this. I agree with all the assessments. There's no superlative that you can't I use I think it's just a contribution to the world that apted deserves to be You know lionised for I am interested in the ways in which British reticence Color all of it in a way. There's a reluctance to talk about yourself. That to Americans is very foreign Almost everyone I mean with their degrees of volubility but there is a tendency at a certain moment where in American might offer. More of a Self self-centered story there is just the kind of inbred reluctance to to talk about yourself in that way which couples up with the kind of British anti-intellectualism a a little bit? There's a reluctance to abstract from one's own experience And and talk about it as meaningful meaningfully representative of of a social or historical trend away. So that that very aspect. That June was talking about where you might say. Well I was born in X. Year therefore my experience generally generation family was of a more rigid classes them but a more Generous Social Welfare system and on and on and this is Linda changed in years and Americans story tell Alabama themselves sort of in that way how anti-intellectual were supposed to be were nothing compared to the Brits are narcissism our sense of history do occasionally come together and produce interesting things about frustrated me a little bit that the depth and beauty of the energy of of life now becoming way predominantly Lia retrospective experience for all of these people including apted who has become. I think it's fair to say ancient in the process of making it. I think he's older than they are. And seventy yeah yeah well. He didn't start when he was seven. So he's fifteen dollars very funny clawed so it's suffused fused with like wisdom and sadness in There were just moments where I wish they were more openly self reflective because they're so clearly uh-huh self reflective and then there's one other thing that In some of the readings came up that I was very interested in. Is that the filmmakers apted and the producer who commissioned commission did both believed that they came from the middle class and understood the middle class and so they they kind of they made it a dumbbell structure. I mean overwhelmingly. They're either very posher very east ender working class. And in all societies over all of time those are the most fatalistic social classes. The rich believed they are born born to something and they cannot be deprived of it and the poor believe or the relatively poor or working class believed that they are faded to to their position in the social hierarchy. Now America troubles this somewhat but the UK doesn't by and large whereas over the last four hundred or so years of of having a middle class the middle class. You know believes that you can fall believes that you can rise both within the middle class and outside of the middle class and so that's that's a degree of self reflection about class as fate. That's kind of missing from this project in ways that that I felt left it with a little bit of a hole in the middle a little bit of a donut. That's it if you do not know the up series you ought to watch it and I think Dana's right the KI. The cumulative amy live affected my wouldn't just watch sixty three up. You can just watch sixty three updates to catch you up to the present tense. But I would take some time and I would do seven up somewhere in the middle. Maybe thirty five I would do seven thirty five and sixty three And you will have availed yourself remarkable humanist document seven only only half an hour long which I think a lot of people don't realize so it's pretty easy to get in on the ground floor with that also you see lots and lots of clips from it in every single one because it always kicks off with the little kids so you won't you won't fault seeing the little kids but those teenage years get a little bit. Yeah and you know there are those those awkward stages which you know there's a universality of breath of just age you know that all of them are kind of awkward in their teen years. All of them are a little bit Bolshie at twenty one and then Paul Paul she- mean you know a little bit like going along for this not not necessarily right but just like they're rebelling young. They're not going with the with the program and and then the ones who stuck with it like they are. It seems to be loyalty. And and you know this is my contribution to the world like there's not necessarily into it but they'll do it a- and then just a couple of doing it for you know for the attention which you know very explicitly I think his name is Peter one of the Liverpudlians who dropped type for many years. Just explicitly said. I'm in it now because I want to attention to my band But as you get to the extremes of you know the very young the very old they're just things that we're all you know everybody. It deals with this. Whether you're married you have kids whether you're happy in love or are not you know the body fails or your can people around you die you you deal with grieving or a bereavement and those things are more universal so at the beginning and the end you know we are more alike in the middle. There's a lot more a lot more variation but honestly it's a little bit less compelling for me Just to see to kind of respond to your point about wishing they were more Sherry Sherry. I guess I think a lot of that is about opted. I mean I think he. It's interesting to me that He doesn't really do much preparation. He says It like you may be has a sense. Yes a few questions that he asked them all But he doesn't just like going into a podcast. He doesn't want for it to seem rehearsed at this point though. They've gone through it so many times that he doesn't really have to prepare them. They know how to sit for a shot. They know have to set up. They know like what's going to get doc picked and be in the show like they're going along with it but I think he probably he doesn't seek the the deep insight for all of his talk for some of them have light. You don't seem to be in touch with your emotions. Well you know there were things he could have done maybe to make them be more in touch with their emotions and he chose not to do that which I think probably for the best? Yeah it's his reserve that comes across. Just there's yeah you're absolutely in June two that I would add. In addition to the the making of the movies having become ritualized Did did the whole project feeds back into itself. These people became famous at the age of seven and progressively more famous over the course of their lives and I in in that sense. There's a Heisenberg in problem. Rhyme in these third. They're not representative. They are the very first reality TV stars ars in some sense and that makes for some interesting dynamics as well they resent opted for having drawn them into this kind of theme purgatory. You know where they get many of its downsides and precious. You've it's upside Speaking of that Steve Tony the the one boy from the east end. Who is the kind of cheeky? Chappy Jockey. Tune taxi driver He actually addresses that whole question of the fame that the show has brought him So we can actually hear him talk about that. I'll give you a story which happened. The Doorman called me up and it was puzzled in the spice man. Can we drove at four of the hotel and a cab pulled up and taxi. Driver said can you do so. I say Mr Order said cannot you gov please and like I said now don't want easily will golf. I want your golf and I'll come up to this style. Muscle also a more famous open a secondhand land on the moon love. Tony gotTa Love Tony. He's such a great character in the show. I know I know right. I mean almost I mean it's hard to argue for. Almost each one of them is the center of the whole thing. You Know Neil Dana as you say the stork this sort of giant thin in stork of a man kind of stomping through Scotland homeless semi homeless. I mean these images are indelible yeah absolutely indelible images of Neil. Oh and just a wonderful moment of montage and sixty three up where APP ted cuts from a shot of Tony as a seven year old. Is this sort of sturdy. Little seven year old running to build something in a playground and then cuts to sixty three zero Tony jogging in the woods. Just the same kind of determined strides. Same Kid I just love the two boys who were in the children's home at the the beginning I mean the ones who really had the least because really the the chances of succeeding in life were were were the smallest smallest and they both seem to have built a life. That is almost Adila. You know not necessarily With lots of Possessions Shins although certainly the one who moved to Australia seems to have that lovely Australian life but they do seem very rich in you know personally and happy and that's that's to me that's like the greatest thing about the show like that's that's the most positive outcome for me of all of them are well. The whole show accepts sixty three up his on Amazon Prime Sixty Z.. Throughout his currently in theaters it will make its way to Amazon prime soon. Enough any way you can please watch this and report back to US okay. Moving on Prince Harry and Meghan markle Michael Shocked the world. I think it's fair to say by announcing that they would step back as senior members of the Royal Family in effect as I understand that they renounce their status as members of royal family. I think it's fair to say Harry has changed his whole life pretty much at his royal identity and his new relatively new bride visibly. We seem to hate its duties and strictures that gets worth fleshing that out June a little bit before I turn to you His mother and sons was killed for being a royal. She was a martyr to its turn to the Royal Family's internal hypocrisies and it's growing and toxic symbiosis with the tabloid press in. Meanwhile everything is wrong with her and I say that in quotes I find nothing wrong with her but anyway by from one perspective horrible perspective. She's American black from show. Business divorced shocking is it it is. It's not as though having happened. It's impossible to point to why it happened. Not all I would also say that. It's really unclear. Their statement of wanting to seek independence of stepping back from their duties. I don't think it's quite clear that they've renounced their status. But it's hard to say exactly what they've renounced renounced all a little bit vague at the moment But no it's not at all surprising And I think that It's quite understandable even Whether whether it's the you know offensive. Racism of the British press and their response to Meghan Buzzfeed had an amazing piece that contrasted. How the British press Treated almost the exact same things when William's wife did them Who is British and white and Blah Blah Blah? I'm when Meghan Markle did them. It was just an absolutely Louis. Incontrovertible you know one is takes the very positive spin the other takes the very negatives something for a late show parody and it was credible the exact same gestures would be read in this this menacing way when Meghan markle did them in praised win. Que Did the absolutely and you know to me. It's just an uncontroversial position -sition that the tabloids racist that the response to Megan is racist and also honestly the way that they treat the royals. The royals are the greatest. This gift to the press is the last hope for the survival of the of the British press. I think because this like the Monica is a ridiculous institution it shouldn't exist but if it does exist then it will be used to sell newspapers to just kind of you know. Have a story that people are interested in people are genuinely annually. Interested for whatever reason we can psychologist y but he doesn't ultimately matter people have an interest in these figures And they don't play along. I think one of the things that the success is said which I think was like wait. What was that there with drawing from the Royal Rota System which is effectively the pool system him for the royals? But when you look who's involved in it it's like four tabloids only one of which is not completely Tori to Tori broadsheets and a a London evening paper. That's owned by a Russian but also is edited by a former Conservative Chancellor of the exchequer like it is not an open unfair Group of newspapers. That they're supposed to kind of confer with and also just the nature of this relationship with the royal family. They don't play along. And so it's really tempting for the so tempting like the press kind of has has to like project a little bit. Because the the the riles only give them you know a few crumbs from which they have to make full cakes and so they you know project project too little bit. It's it's on. The whole system is designed to like put crazy shit out there that people then lap up but if you're the person about whom I'm crazy shit is being made up an horrible things are being said like it honestly feels kind of reasonable for them to want to you. Just get out of that and I don't really see why we shouldn't just let them well. The Queen has now said fine. You're out right. I mean this quite fine. But she's open to To negotiations I think. Do you think June that it's possible that this is a crack that could start to split the monarchy. Open that you know when you you see that these this young couple can go off and make their own life in media or whatever they're gonNA do that people will start to say wait. This thing was kind of a bogus scam to begin with. I I hope so. I mean because I have this weird situation where I grew up there. I go back every year but I don't live there. I don't you know I'm not really part of of it so I see things almost like with a time. Stop kind of way you know the world stops and then I go there and it starts again. It's just a strange way of experiencing life so from my point of view. I was Britain when Princess Di died and for the funeral and the crazy outpouring of emotion. It really does seem to me. That was a change in Britain. After that I saw people like kissing each other and being like it did change the way the British people respond to that makes no sense. I hear myself I self saying that. And how could it but kind of think it does like these people who are like nobody really knows why we're paying for them what their exact job is although Oh you know the Queen's ninety-three and still working her ass off so like they're doing something they're reflect changes they they set changes emotion but at the same time there's something in the very nature of the institution that prioritizes permanence and lack of change. So it's a very. It's a contradictory situation. We don't don't want to to to continue to exist as as you know on the same parallel. They've been for hundreds of years at the same time. What how exactly do they leave? Because we need to keep paying their security costs Do they still like go. Rhino shake hand light. Because that's nobody can quite say exactly. What their job is? Did they still still wear those uniforms. Are they still go to Scotland in the summer and work kills. Everything is so vague and yet we're obsessed. I want to drill down June for for a second on that Khan contradictoriness contrary nece that you were pointing to from a slightly different direction though so on the one hand you know initially one might think this. This isn't entirely principled. Stance on the part of a new generation that finds the protocols and expectations that surround this public identity to be preposterous And to it. You Know Harry said something. I thought quite moving. He said I've seen what happens. When someone I love commoditised to the point that they are no longer treated or seen as a real person it was a statement so he might not have written it? Maybe I don't know I lost my mother and now I watch my wife. I falling victim to the same powerful forces that's quite a principled stand to take on behalf of your new wife And this might light involve a real sacrifice and so I thought this is marvelous and then you start to hear that. There are all kinds of deals being made with entertainment companies that her Her agents have been involved in some of this deal. Brokering and you begin to think is totally cynical interpretation here possible which is that. This generation has grown up with the Kardashians and beyonce and Jay. Z is kind of royal family and this other one is anachronistic. Limitations are unnecessary You can make more money as this this kind of unofficial royal. They could become the influencers to end. All influencers repent enormous fortune. Do it vastly more on their own terms. Is that a contrary nece that you see here. Junor sort of a to be determined or am I Am I being too cynical now. Absolutely see that parallel I mean how did they make this announcement on their social media platform on their new website. That was all bells and whistles and fence in which is called. I'll just point out. Sussex Royal Dot Com so so they are to some degree profiting from that name absolutely and so you know yes. This is something that we've seen in You know in the other world in the world of entertainment payment where famous people put the put it in blunt way kind of don't need the tabloids anymore don't need the press anymore because they can just make an announcement on instagram. Even sell stuff on instagram. It is kind of sad to me that the assumption seems to be that when they moved towards financial independence it we'll be through influencing Which is everything that I've heard you know? I usually listen to the world at one. The flagship midday BBC radio news broadcast cast. And you know all of the talk of what they'll do is been around influencing which seems sad to me because like that's not actually a job like I get. These are very famous. People they have have a position That's maybe what's available to them and obviously she's an actress so that is not insane and you know I don't know what are the skills he has. He was in the army army But you know that's kind of too bad. I wish they were you know they've talked about maybe doing chargeable things. I kinda wish it was more stuff like that. I wish it was something with a bit more meaning than whatever. They're gonNA influence on Instagram for. That just seems a bit sad to me but yeah yeah. They're linking up with the entertainment industry that's more explicitly about commoditisation fame or We'd love to get mail on the subject it would be very fun from our UK listeners. especially but everyone Anyway moving on all right now is the moment in the podcast. When we endorsed Orest Dana would you have I'm going to send people to a great interactive graphics that appeared on the New York Times a couple of days ago. Did you see this thing. Comparing the textbooks from California and Texas Texas. Do you know what I'm talking about. Yeah I didn't actually go deep into it but I saw that it was. It's really fascinating. I haven't gone as deep as you can go because this is one of those interactive graphics that allows for a lot of interaction in but yeah as as as a way of talking about you know the way that history and other topics are taught in different states. They took eight text books that have been used in California and Texas over the last. I'm not sure how many years and just compared the way that they told various stories from American history as you can imagine the two state systems have very different ways of presenting information and having grown grown up in the public school system of Texas. I was particularly interested to compare the way for example. The Second Amendment is talking about. You can imagine there's a very different presentation. and and sometimes the text books are from the same company and are just printed with different information with something left out. With different things emphasized it may be just think of a conversation that we had a few years back. I think it is when we were talking with Jamal about the series that he did on slavery with with Rebecca Onion and and talking about the way we had been taught the civil war and reconstruction growing up and as a Texas Texas highschool student. I remember specifically being told that in the multiple choice question about what causes it the civil war where slavery was the wrong answer right if that was only one of many complex complex answers and it's about states rights and all these things that I thought at the time where this is me getting a nuanced understanding of the civil war. I don't know what I thought but that was certainly how it was presented. Anyway wherever wherever you grow up I think looking at this interactive graphic as a really instructive way of thinking about education and about the huge gaps that open up when American history is presented in in different ways. You can find that on the New York Times I would just Google Texas California history books and you'll find yourself there and you can spend a long time diving in That sounds is amazing. June would he got so because we've been talking about Britain today. I want to recommend a British. TV show that actually is not available even on all all the many Official legal ways to see British television these days But on youtube there are lots of episodes of night become my favorite his TV show which is called antiques road trip now. Don't confuse it with antiques. Road show But it is also guess. What about antiques? But it's more of of competition show to antiques. Dealers are given two hundred pounds They're putting a classic car they are sent on these really weird and somewhat complicated driving driving trips where they stop off antiques Stores and they spend their money on Buying things which they then the end of the day sell L. at auction and over the course of five days they compete against each other to see who can you know when more And then at the end of the week Winnings are her given to charity. Know that signs may be a bit dull but it's really great first of all the people that they Have on the show are are interesting and funny and good companions for the most part So there's this kind of goofy competition element but then there. Are these really really. Well done documentary. Just kind of stops stops so while. Somebody's off shopping. Another person will go and talk to somebody like recently. I saw one where they were like the the world one trench museum which was fascinating? They visited someone who was thatch. Ing Your roof And just kind of showed how you do that and you kind of get MTQR education But the key ingredient As in a lot of British so of reality or documentary competitions or come reality competition shows is there's a really cheeky narrator Who really really makes it? You see that on things like come dine with me and other British competitions I really recommend it just google it our search on Youtube for an episode. And Yeah I think you might enjoy it. is called antiques road trip. I love it all right. I'm Steve Long Talker. Metcalf has this this week will last week. He had a two word endorsement this week. It's only three words endorsement. Hounds of love. Are you going to be calling. I am bugling. The Gate push saw. Yeah Yeah Yeah Oh my God. So my daughter's listen to this kind of you know. We've just had this an amazing dialectical synthesis of authored melancholy. indie pop with diva driven producer producer driven mainstream pop. And it's produced like billy eyelash is probably early and even do the Arianna guerande albums exhibited this Lana del Rey. Being like you know probably the most obvious combination of these two things and then all of these bedroom pop derivatives is. That are just marvelous. I really love this music and all of a sudden as my younger daughter was playing. This playlist on comes the Kate Bush Song Hounds of love which I had not heard in twenty five years and it is just. It's just the greatest song I can't tell you and also it's the fucking seedbed from which all of this other music it derives and in fact that's traceable. I've been sort of googling around and reacquainting myself with Kate Bush who I loved back in the day. Dan Did you remember that Song Hounds of love when when you mentioned it I do. I'm embarrassed not to remember it because I was also such a huge Kate Bush van. And it's funny. You mentioned Billy Eilly Steve Because I think I was the first person to mention her on this show when she was still kind of a youtube artist and hadn't dropped her album or become super famous except among teenagers. And I remember walking by my daughter's room and she was listening to Billie Irish and I thought is that Kate Bush. I was so excited that she had discovery. Kate Bush on her own. But there's definitely a similarity and it was more the orchestration. You know the kind of like you say that like dreamy soundscape creation from June. You'll remember remember right. I mean she broke huge England. Yeah bigger than she ever did here I. I saw her on her first tour. Which I think may have been for a long time only tour because because I think she kind of hated touring and really didn't do it but I yeah? I was a huge fan in her early days. Yes she was bjork before Bjork really I mean she had this multi. You know kind of incorporated costume dance mime gesture into the music She was doing something that is at that that point was musically completely unfamiliar this Curiously choppy sometimes a melodic but ultimately quite a theory and beautiful beautiful song. Crafting you know song style. You know those first three albums are just remarkable. Each one of them is great in their way. But just if you don't know Kate Bush Lake acquaint yourself just by putting on hounds of love. I I just think it's one of the greatest. Three minutes singles ever made it so itself and yet very this one very melodic and catchy an earworm in the best sense of of that term so check it out. Bush producer Ben. Fresh when he hears this we'll be able to hear his screams because he is a kate. Bush lifer yes. Oh I love all right very good shadow. I've been fresh all right guys. Thanks Jim thanks for filling in thank you for having me. Always a pleasure and Dana. A wonderful show. Thanks a lot thanks. It was you'll find links to some of the things we talked about today at our show page. That's US late DOT com slash culture. The best you can email us at culture at slate dot com every week guys. I'll say it until the end of time. Please email us. We love hearing from you. It gives us a sense of the wonderful community community. That's are out there that listens to this show. 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Queen Of Substance ~ Always Fights Back!
"Salaam nameless. They welcome to the couple of joy. Better talk with me up so duty. I'm back again with the news story with fees. Captain Shalini Queen of substance so now why do caller of substance? You will just come to know in the concluding part of my story so It was way of Kenya's back Oh gap Shailene. Oh, she was about eighteen years age and. Van Army officer bolster. She was all McLeod nine because you always trimmed off that. Prince charming, and she did not have any kind of reason to deny that proposal, and all the marriage plans going on your legs item that she's going to get married to the. Army John. The Country Enders I. Think It is our thing for any woman in our country. And then after the marriage. She. It was like a dream wedding and They were all quite happy. Married life was really really going very happy base and. The army officer you always encouraged her to study. And then after marriage she continued with our other stories and choose doing graduation. And then the flowers of blossoms. bested up on her, and she gave to a very beautiful son and. During this time as you know, you're not me, offices a deployed there. Under, they'll be always so protecting our country and. Staying away from the life, and she is really a very tedious task You know just imagine the plight of her. How It would be for her missing the husband I. Mean you vetted by and with a child? Small Islands used to always wait for the call her husband. And then one fine day actually. It was their marriage the and she was. Waiting She just came to know that he's going to come down and. She all decked up in her red, sorry that Mongol to lure bangles, and all that stuff and she wanted to surprise her husband. But then she found there was something mysterious which their family members in hiding from her and. She went to airport to receive her husband, but then. She saw. Global Pharmacy People. Getting Golfing. Cheap the tricolored Indian National Act. Yes you guessed the tried. Oh the army officer. He succumbed. To that and he sacrificed his life to our country because he was deflowered, Lino deployed. Schmead India. Pakistan border. He gave up his life for our country and just imagine the plight of her. She was all waiting that up in Aryan then she had to. Face that tragic moment. Stiller. Stone a Bar, but she has to survive for small law. One year old son. And still I mean door she. You know she didn't own that deals welden flowing. Dried up in crime. Of the. Oh, it was very very difficult. Remember Dan when she saw that small kid giggling in our lap. During the funeral rites. It was that time when she decided that. No, I'm going to be strong. Okay for my sanit least. She was going to be strong. You know she. She was just a store and she was just radios. She was just doing a graduation. North Noise UK ship. Proper education, no financial. Aid being provided and It'll. She has to take care of Sun all alone. And then she continued with her studies and the Chore She. Took care of the sun, and then one fine day, she decided that nausea is going to serve the Indian. Armenia by joining us, so she applied for the army recruitment and mittleman process and she enrolled her name. Because she wanted the dream of our husband lead husband to get fulfill, and then she got selector. And folks, you know right. I mean how strict the army training goes. You know they have to go, very. Rigorous kind of training to join the Indian national men. During that time you have to stay aloof from your family, members basically so. He was just one enough your. Child you know she has to leave? Leave lever son with grandparents and. She used to always miss i. mean you know Breastfeeding Baby? I mean just being from your heart breastfeeding babies very difficult. I think all matters damage coming door I, see so it was very difficult memento. She used to see her son after man. So you know she used to just. John like hot girl, her son, then just cry relentlessly. So, but still you know she used to say that war. We don't want all water all the sacrifices. Your mother's doing only for you for your future, because after find for your education and all the finances. So it was very difficult time for her mother and son separation. Style and then. She was posted as army officer just like her husband in the Indian National Immune. That was the proudest moment. For Hard enough entire lifetime human, I mean who was just Oh, an English major arena when I was nineteen. I I will still paid by my moment that age I. Really didn't know how the world runs and. Dot H. She has seen so much in life and then she started right from scratch. Being educated and then applying for the job and going doing all the training, rigorous training and then. You know very proud moment and You know they think her story. You. Know just still here very successful very good story though she has some bad chapters knoll. No people had story doesn't end here. Do you think any success woman will have a very? Happy and Meka nope not seriously. Okay so. Continue with that. Now after that it was the time when all the people where previous rising her for the second marriage I mean it is quite difficult for an army we do. Event naming. Being accepted by the society, because whenever legal okay I'll do, she's highly respected, but then you know are societal pressures and. All that stuff in then? No, she taught then she guard. Maybe my son needs support so. She met. Her second husband, she is she. Opted She went to her door second marriage, and even he was a divorcee and he he promised because he was very proud that he's going to marry or captain non army officer serving the army, so he really. I, mean laughter. and. They went ahead with the marriage, and he promised that he would take care of the Sun as well and what was. Good I think this own circle was all. Dan Successfully, but then. After that. You know. Just because she was in the army for six or seven years, and she, she thought no now. This is the time I should give. My son because it is the growing years. My son needs me and greater. Mutual Band because she had quite good savings She believed in savings, so she had good amount, and then she quit her job. She went ahead with or Mbe. She was in the second marriage. Oh. But God was fighting something else for her. Slowly or she your after two years when she was working with an MC, she met with an accident. And then she was bedridden for one whole year. She couldn't even move an inch. And that was very very traumatizing time because she had laurel dreams in her head, she had to take care of her son and you know. husband, and in laws demands from their side as well being the second marriage, and you know how the situation is. You have to. You undergo many things in this process to maintain the relationships as well. So after that dime than she keep back again. Even that was very battle for her to fight. She succumbed to lot of flack chosen after Lord of therapies and surgery she again she. Started walking. Now? She wants a marathons as well even that a very big victory for her okay street of after that and The time when she thought, everything is said now I. Think God is not going to give me any kind of problems because I think. Everything is working. On the bed off Taunts, but Seriously No. And next she realized that there were some serious things in a marriage as well and one fine day, people. This is I really hit such things I've been hit. Do even mentioned such things. Oh his her second husband, he took a glass. Gordon. And hit. Hard on the head. Six, times straight W.. Yes, she was subjected to. Harassment. And she had on go complete toadies stitches on our head and the face. Domestic violence and harassment. This is the thing which I hate the most. And yet. She decided she was going to put the marriage just because. She doled out. No I cannot leave my son in the orphanage, depressurizing that you have to give birth. Dur Son or daughter from the second husband, and you should not take care of your child because his from your husband is, leave him in the orphanage I don't think any model will be ready. And the second husband, though he made lot of promises while marrying just because you know because she was the Campidoglio Indian army and Cheer Laura Bank balance. He was only on those things and. She will for a second marriage. She now today shes fighting. Her divorce battle now. She's going around the coats for justice and you know what is the worst thing in this case? All our savings. You know maybe owned She mentioned it might be an own forty six to fifty lacks. He transferred all amount. Joe, his account. Without our knowledge. And she's running behind the court today to get back. Her hardly saved earnings. You know all that all. Remaining all her sacrifices each each dying. You, know that guy, he's just simply. Clean! Should I mean? He just took out all the money and. She's I mean I really don't understand that situations I feel. Bear God is I mean easy existing. She didn't stalled their folks. She didn't stop she. She is my green substance. You remember what Deutsche's Mike Green of substance. She didn't stop that. She against southbound at all the she stood up. She started doing all the social service. She started working again photos on now. She's doing his insulating dirtier now. and. She's working hard to find for his education. And she's even walking for underprivileged children, and just helping the army of does to you know how to get into the admin process, and how to get us a cure all for the future. Okay she's striving high that you don't know other lady should the goal this hand watching has gone through. I'm down. One more big milestone. She didn't stop there I. Really Love this part seriously. You know what she did she L. Participated foreign. International Single Parent Miss Universe. And she's the first woman I'm extremely proud to say. She's the first woman from our country India to participate and win in the. Single parent? Miss Universe pagent which was conducted in Las Vegas and she stood as a winner, and she's making our country betty proud. Eight she really didn't stop them now. Oh, seriously I mean. There is that strong St Lady who was wearing those army woods and. Those salary that red cloud tally, Yoga, woman, and then now today you know to the army army dress, and then Miss Universe I mean so many I mean so many shades in a single woman. Know and you know what she sees so does. She hates men. I mean just the second has been. She still believes that she's soulful connected to the. Man, who gave her the life? You know captain shelling and She just says that she's raising her son. You know she only says one thing to her son. It is not important. What kind of education you take even if you don't get a very big job even if you don't get echoed in the army lock your father. Feel not so positive in life. The most important thing for a man Easter aspect woman in each and every aspect, and that is the only thing she teaches a son. and. Itang this is the ultimate estimate team of manhood, an extremely brown policy that she is the queen of substance and Captain Shailene. Really, thank you. Thank you so much for sharing the inspiring story and you really full my couple of. I still see usually Irena I'm falling short awards and. Sach woman in our society. Make our heads high-end. Seriously very happy and hope you enjoyed the story. Hope you'll get inspired that. How many loggerheads? Your life was like a better off tons. Folk on it for planet. Just to find the battle roses being there, and you'll be best stone with the heavens ultimately. Don't stop keep fighting. Be Strong be brief. Life is full of excitement. Just fill just always. Everybody had something at the medicine can fill your cup of showing. Always. Take Care Yours down.
AWTR Show #706 Back roads to Belonging by Kristen Strong
"Attention Army wives all in you've come to the right place Talk Radio is leading and longest running podcasts kind providing the latest reports Right now I can see everyone running around my aunt and uncle are here they are snowbirds from Alaska so they Lisa blooming no matter where we live you can connect with Kristen on social media over on Instagram at Kristen strong or also media graphic artist Keith and it's a privilege to bring you weekly resources to engage educate and encourage you in your military life her and so they always stop in El Paso and right now they are just partying it up with the children in the backyard like just crazy unease trina it's been a while since we've done a podcast together so let's catch up with you that's my Hoopla right now yeah what's what's up in your corner of the world over in Korea right now Britney well I don't have any staying at my house just yet but next month a best friend and her boyfriend are going to be coming here for a week and I'm a little bit jealous but also enjoying the view 'cause I I don't participate but I get to enjoy it and watch it from Minnesota so that's I guess that's come to visit you in Korea or no no actually I had another friend Com like the last two weeks an owner and Commander Sheridan Block I am so looking forward to chatting with our guest tonight kristen strong kristen is a mill spouse speaker and author welcome to the latest edition of the Army Wives Talk Radio Your source for military life empowerment I'm your host A. W. N. so yeah we're gonNA guess and you know I'm really excited because I I have some places I wanna take them and you know going on in your world well I'm not sure if you can hear in the background I'm trying to keep it down out there but it is shenanigans in my backyard in her latest book back roads belonging unexpected paths to finding your place in your people kristen has outlined a little roadmap for each of us so we can find our own journey this is show number seven hundred six and we're so glad you're here I'm your host for this podcast episode eighty I'd say www dot kristen strong dot com also coming up in just a few minutes our new six Joelene we'll be calling in with your needed dry they fly down Kansas City they get their fifth wheel trailer in their big old truck every year and then they drive across the country and come to Arizona to winter she's never been to this side of the world before either as a boyfriend so you know really excited for them is it and then at the same time you know show them school places so that's kind of what's going on over here in the year again I will literally fly around the world to hang out with you that is that's impressive well done it was just funny 'cause none of our family has actually life and stuff but that's really cool they've come to visit and I just so fun like no matter I feel like I don't know maybe it's just me but I feel like no matter what where you are it's so fun to show people where you currently live this today I drove uncle and aunt Susan around all day come out to see your friends I I see how that goes yeah and I mean if you get my maybe different seasons we just played and I was like here's downtown El Paso here scenic overlook here's the Fort Bliss cemetery we we went to work and it was apparently August so she goes to known brands like that's impressive those are committed friends especially like we're on the same page with fat for sure so what's the weather like go ahead I outsource costumes this year to grandma's grandma Alexa you're listening you're the bomb dot com and thank you for ordering costumes Oh GonNa say is your family doing anything like Halloween 'cause I know that's coming up yeah I always try to keep it low key I I have to make them or come up with them so yeah when in doubt outsource grandma and I think we're just going to do trick or treating care like oh my gosh he's GonNa die happy tonight like because all the buttons and they started it up and man it was a great day I love where we live and I'm glad to hear that fool Monday and so all the tanks and the Bradley's and vehicles were all out so he walked around and Michael about to go up and and Turret one of the vehicles you know Paso DNA los alamitos is coming up and so even more than pauline they have that's a really big deals autre has trump retreat at her school so that's easy and then we'll probably just like walk back up the hill doorbells and be like oh it's getting dark it's a school house 'cause I will eat it and goes down in happen when it's present so yeah yeah so and even more so oh my time to go 'cause I mean I don't know I'm not a party pooper but you can only eat so much candy and I personally don't need all the candy and Lisa's peanut butter cups and stickers after the kids go to bed on Thursday Friday Saturday night because the parent tax so beautiful thing I'll take that Oh i the more coffee it's good three so yeah craziness you guys do anything for Halloween if you're but you know we really don't go to the Halloween parties that people have and we don't have kids then no not really since we're here kind of you know not really with like a lot of our friends I mean of course you so there's a boatload of hospitals and whatnot going on this weekend so maybe we'll still motivated and use something like that or maybe it'll just eat all the are they really don't do Halloween like they're just starting to kind of do whole like fall decorations pumpkins kind of thing surely will not die we will not die it will be okay I'm just like they I feel like the schools right now are just stretched the trick or treating so we'll probably just kind of stay by our apartment complex and there are some families around here so we do get week is how lean week and red ribbon week so carris has something to dress up or do every day this week plus a Halloween costume and I'm like like overall it's not really seeing so like you know since it's mostly apartments here a lot of times they'll just do like trunk or treat well we're going to move on and we have to think our sponsors this podcast is brought to you not base or how does that work like I feel like a Ding Dong but I've never really thought about it until now like the Korean population like I have little kids that come around we'll just probably pass out candy I have a mass go put on about it right like Korean kids although there are some Korean families of course that lived by the base and like they kind of started to adopt that a little bit immune mother so two weeks ago they had picture day okay that requires some preparation last week we had career day though that requires preparation this week Gotcha stuff well survived it yeah yeah no kidding just give us a little update how how's all that going few it's going really well it was a big chore and I was like All right resources one of our powerful resources we have online as our blog we have well over two thousand blog post now and so part of our podcast a bit like I heard a couple years ago like you you could go into a store you know around October November there wouldn't really be anything special like over the past couple of years they're starting to get like fall decorations in the saying trick or treat is not a thing agan keep on moving I'm three on the program and trump retreats efficiently to Halloween so go America I'm all about it total stupid question just like career do Halloween or is that like straight up United States or like is it more of a like you on your mail doc and we're like continually adding new resources so Shrina you've been the one to do a bunch of work on the website and we are adding new resources like there's a lot of things we're editing in the background just to keep things up today because of course we wanna make sure our listeners have the latest and greatest you really want out of your session do you want a private family session or one that's outside what's your style and what kind of style the photographer have information but we've made awesome progress I of course I'm very biased but I think it looks great in the parking lot or some people will like have you know you know they might invite some of the kids over and they'll do like Halloween John it however it can be a little challenging to find a photographer with our ever changing military life or even know where to begin to look for one so that's why it's nineteen bing or like a couple of people will have candies it's just like you kind of have to coordinate with your neighbors how Halloween is going to happen like I feel like it is start asking around find someone with a solid reputation who can deliver quality products on time second do your research and Oh shares Horton sale you find photographer that can best capture the essence of your family I start with referrals when you moved to new town it features here at a. w. n. and one of our biggest changes have been but website so it's gotten like a whole new face lift gotten a whole new exist because there's just so people living on or off post in kind of weird housing situations so it's like you just Kinda have to do your own thing blog is from our new expert blogger April creaky April has been a portrait photographer eighteen years she's earned her master yeah well I'm a big fan of trick or treat because it's all in one spot you don't have to be all weird mark up to the doors and like high just walked by trick or treat drug free throws Camila Nice and clean and I'm excited to see where we continue to develop it the resources that we are adding in the future so speaking of these websites lashed blog so brittany you've been a male spouse for a couple of years now I think have you done any professional photos since saying I do to yourself the types of sessions for three and reread your contract contracts cover pricing ownership distribution cancellations moderately list and checking it twice because you all know how much I love lists don't get me started that's a whole different discussion it's not about me but I know some people really out Christmas cards their family April shares your knowledge experience with us in a post entitled how to find the right place for you as a season northbound's herself hire this out but I just want too excited and too impatient and wanted to tackle it so I'm really digging it feel like made great progress asked is we share with you what's been going on at our band of waters brief so as the holiday season quickly approaches I personally and making it third your budget you want to take all the costs into consideration when looking I prefer there are all sorts of photographers of varying experience levels to offer different means but there was one day where like you know I would like to practice more so I offered a military family it was actually the most difficult to work with because he didn't want to do anything Yup Yeah that's as far as so like you know I like to be like hey let's go you know I have camera tripod let's do this ourselves so we've not uh-huh or a W N command team and over the last few weeks our command team has been in high gear improving and updating a what like what we would do or like where we do it or anything like that Now I have I'm not a professional photographer by any and you can read this post in all of our empowering emissions from our Abyan band bloggers over at www I mean last network dot com Ford so I try to do it regularly my husband is not a fan of like maternity pictures and stuff he's like why do we have to do this and I'm like now you know free family portrait like once again I'm not a professional I have like very like entry targeted degree photos graphic crap in degree and certification as a certified professional photographer todd for all from the professional photographers of America we are so yeah I love it or blogs provide the knowledgeable resources to help our military spouses takes him in the guesswork out of their lives like finding photographer or with all the kids in like all age ranges and it was kind of interesting which by the way their their their oldest son do ever equipment you know you know so that kind of thing so I just did like photos for them for free just to kind of build up some experience it was my experience goes like professional photos very unprofessional yeah we we've done it a few times just because I have again I have grandma's that are like we sign your contract time to begin planning which may include wardrobe suggestions by the photographer to ensure matches the background and surroundings obsession the rest is history because I stepped into this position debut in and started looking for bloggers and was like April you should talk about photography and so right now she asked you to kind of casting call for a I need some people that WanNa few free photos and I was like sure why not and she did that and then dance because most of the photos I take mostly like landscape and I've never tried like people like that before and you know it was it was kind of interesting because extremely modern and you know in some kind of ways maybe like futuristic I absolutely love their public transportation every professional photos and you know that's the funny thing is like I'm not sure you know well let's See Korea is an interesting place because you know in on one hand is duty stations around the world and this week's featured post is highlighting my current duty station Camp Humphreys South Korea but they're short and sweet create thirteen hours ahead of eastern standard time South Korea does not observe daylight savings time and the closest major city camp humphreys is sold located on the border near North and South Korea Camp Humphreys is army's largest installation in the Pacific whether in South Korea okay good photos and I love I'm a horrible picture taker 'cause we'll do something really cool and I'll be like am I got half a picture that's really pathetic healthy uses etc always clarifies her talk for if you don't understand what something means and finally now that you've pippa talk for that fits your style budget and heard how one of our most popular recurring blog post series is our post with the most and that is hat like a I don't know maybe like a five year old son and a newborn baby and like a two year old so like you know dealing lost and it's like really cheap and affordable you know people there are very respectful and it's very clean another really big thing about Korea is that the crime rate here is extremely low now so I'm not saying that crime doesn't exist here but it is very all located about fifty five miles away so Britney shares at that where you're at three call home right now so share some of the highlights from your personal perspective not very safe place much safer than America I think like a lot of families they like you know you go out walking at night and you gotTa love the Food I love me some fast food oh you know so you know of course everyone knows about Korean barbecue but like there's also some other different I'm a clinic person but only when I'm like Oh prego so we've done it a few times and I'd always really glad and actually April the why is a small child alone the subway and realize just as normal like you know it's safe for kids to do this alone this is the worst time I'm going to be pregnant and you're GonNa do it it'd be happy on huge crop yeah I'm I'm a real nice photography not really author of the blog she's the one that actually took my head shots that I use on the UN and that was before I do or like she asked for we're both in Alpine true the post with the most really helps take out like a lot of the guests were a lot of the guesswork sorry about like learning about all the difference to train you know if you want to travel around like Southeast Asia there's so many countries that are just a couple hours away system here I think they have like the best subway system in the world it's super clean it's super efficient like it would be impossible you know little kids get out of school and you'll see them using the subway and the bus system all by themselves and like you might be like typically sunny yet Coleman winner while summers bring heat and lots of rain do the monsoons the dry season is winter and the rainy season the summer they're just bringing up all so I think it's a really interesting place to be you could do lots of travel it's pretty safe they got a great culture here and raising interviews and more power you on your military South Journey so we're just so much less you have to work right and then there's the food so you don't have to worry about people bothering you or you'll say like sometimes they're like insole or like a bigger part of the city you know can lane right and tickets are cheap you know 'cause if you're traveling from America that's thousands of dollars but if you're having Korea that's only hundreds of dollars tides of traditional dishes that you gotta try when you're out here and you know it's just an interesting area because careers you know that's been my experience at Camp Humphreys so far well I love all the stuff you share on facebook like food and your travels and videos and stuff and I'm like tree to earn next end of the country in less than a day so you know right if you WANNA travel on the country you can do it so fast and easy is a small as a country in comparison to the United State so you could like literally travel from one end of the older I'm a very bad and they'll spouse because I haven't fast moving well I had win they're very very like diy type people trying to make this more of a family friendly place and they're increasing the amount of families they're sending here so you know if you put it in for South Korea I want to go to their yeah yeah sounds like a very very solid place for sure and you know yeah it is bomb dot com I'm so impressed with Mwr here they are fantastic than so many activities uh others so she read it does your family have a cat or dog or do you have a cat and a dog and do they fight like what hi there literally on the twenty six two days ago they had so many probably I was probably ten or even twelve day followers to post photos of their cats on our facebook page so a lot of you share photos of your beloved cats and Oh my goodness there were so many different cat always acting for a cat I feel like that would be not okay with our dog he would I mean there's a little dog but he would either eat the cat the most and it's now time to move onto our weekly social media scoop on October sixteen it was global cat day and we asked or get beat up by the cat and so it just not would not end well at all about that so yeah I don't think libraries outdoor recreation leisure travel child in youth services sports fitness and so many other aspects of mills very impressed it's one of the big perks I think about Fort Bliss well that's really awesome to hear like four welfare and recreation and W. R. Manages Programs and services that support readiness and resilience for soldiers and their families military life with resources beyond aws in just in time for all the Halloween festivities is md view are short for family Morrell Terry installation life fall under and debut are so should read what is md view are like at where you're stationed Fort Bliss categories of feline so you didn't get a chance to share your family's cat photo we look to see it head over to our facebook page and added our life our family good balance so if you had a cat and a dog would you say that would be castrophe different activities related to the hall like Halloween Dna toes outdoor rec just end of the are here is amazing and and hang out with that and we actually went to pet code afternoon and played with the cats that were there and pretend like they were ours for a few minutes and then we left so it was great for the full story military service members and their families may now be seeing some relief after meeting of army senior leadership ongoing Addis or change and family composition go to TRYSOFI DOT MIL to learn more Federal News Network reported that Trans Com has opened up bid for what's your pets situation like yeah we just have a dog I really love looking all the cats then we have a cat people and our love it my daughter thick okay now we're done sorry guys no more puns Brittany away move on before people like skip to the next episode okay we're GonNa get really yeah we gotta get like one of those chicks we've worked on that forever but I see what you did there 'cause that was per a two billion dollar contract to be awarded to a single moving entity the story reports it would pare down the nine hundred and fifty vendors dod elites here all right so on this week's resorts room at the time and the show where we give you info you need of a common framework for dispute resolution increased training for installation commanders ensuring that commanders are increasingly involved with housing issues. You know there's so much support for families and stuff like that but it's time for a short commercial break up next in our new six joe lean bringing it Orteig care select plans will be eligible to make changes during the open season from November eleventh through December ninth twenty eighteen this is part of cares new else your needs to know new D. 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You wouldn't believe how these events have helped me adjusted being back just like a good time that I could have with my family and Kristen points out that in some ways because of technology we are more connected today than any other generation yet we often feel so lonely and ah so kristen tell us more about yourself in where you're calling from this evening well sure well I am calling from very snowy the very snowy woods of Colorado Springs Colorado and and I am good to see you I've been home for almost a year just trying to adjust and get back into the swing of things well looks like he's been busy I always see those sixty family at all those events what gives now all these new happy memories remaining priceless to know that people appreciate service and your sacrifice yeah it is listen I've got extra tickets donate them yeah it's easy just go to vet tix dot org it's a great site if you give your extra tickets and other vets like sign up to get them cool buddy they'd have three children together this military family has zig-zagged across the country in one ocean several times before settling in Colorado Springs Colorado some of the show tonight kristen Oh thank you so much for having me ladies it's wonderful to be here I'm super excited to see it would be a good life choice to get a car right now I would love to live on a farm and have an outdoor cat so yeah it's not so much on the cast but it was really cool to see map for each of us individually find a place of belonging no matter where we live she walks with the readers help them fight loneliness isolation and county Oklahoma and everybody on O'Neal lane was related to me so I grew up I grew up where literally my neighbors where my cousins my family I had a very you know a deep well familiarity and belonging and so then I met my order so cool I love that and yes we unbiased love all branches of military even though we're called right that rose to belonging well I tell you what I I have had a struggle in my adult life fleet how I I came to know kristen I read it loved it and we connected online so it's a good one too she and her. US Air Force has been veteran has been David they do bringing us the new Gillian that was really spooky so I love the new format of the reports the highlights are really helpful to be in but I just it was a I had a big crash course in learning how to make friends five tremendous dog I'd also like to point out SATCHMO was coloring White Grey Brown black brindle simply marvelous you know it's such a treat to watch your job like this wife like you said to a veteran air force Air Force officer and I thank you for inviting an Air Force y you're campfire they were looking in from the outside some women have continual fear that they're missing out on something kristen has created a road as a friend offering meaningful encouragement for each season of life the sea it with less worry more help the book grow neat change is met my husband in college and we fell in love and got married but then I moved to Ohio which to me might as well have been the moon because it seems so far away but also I wrote it because I think many of us not just may we struggle with wanting to do one of two things when we kind of have a crisis of belonging we either uh-huh but I I'm the mom of three children I have twenty year old twin boys and then I have a sixteen year old encouragement and insight through your book so why do you think the topic of belonging resonates with so many women today at least a few people that I knew so I felt like I wrote it for me first and foremost because it's just been something that I've struggled with ah she just really relaxes into the places that got him already put her today so essentially like a middle road like the mid well you know the research is kind of grim right now there's different studies that show you know back in the I read this one I read one article by Brennan Brown and the back road is the Middle Road doozy jumping in all the things going just crazy about it and then also just isolating 'cause I and my place because growing up I really never had to do that there were even when I went to college an hour away you know there was always people around that I that's all goes everywhere and anybody trying to get connected with community so tell us why why you decided stream maybe there's a middle way and so I thought this idea of the backward way to belonging where one is seen less but sentenced her belonging more tation so you know yeah so totally bended both places and I just felt like what if there's another way like maybe we don't have to be so us and then when that doesn't work or we just kind of get hurt and injected and then we go the opposite direction and I I've done this too and then in two thousand ten that was forty percent well now it's closer to fifty percents almost half like forty six percent around their report feeling appears to be turning in circles happy dance so common with this group finally little loving face vic right now we just gets in there and well on both ends of that spectrum who where almost panicked like I have to have people and I have had it now and if it doesn't happen right now I'm just going to give up and hide in my little hole and then Jesus beloved but but they God wants us to know belonging on her too and so I think this topic of belonging resonates with when underline lonely and sad and by myself and trying to do this south life on my own so yeah obviously mom needed finding a place in the people with whom I belong I tell you I grew up on O'Neal lane and now my maiden name O.`Neil and it's in the OC Gen's ears and millennials that are actually feeling more lonely than the the older folks so you know we have a bit fast company and she talked about how in nineteen eighty in in the nineteen eighties about twenty percent of Americans identified as as they they just don't lonely I wanNA jump on that super crowded highway of community high connection where it's really exhausting but we feel like we kind of have to do whatever it takes for somebody to notice armie Wi fi where we adopt all of them and hope that our resources are did for all them 'cause obviously your book is applicable not just air force not just army cannot be the sole kind of community you have absolutely so why do you think Chris what do you think it's difficult for people to fight me of a a bit of a crisis of belonging and and I think as you know I think God wants he certainly we belong God's daughters but you can't sit around the kitchen table and break bread and you know go tune escape room and like have experiences irl in real life and I think that is important when we're thinking about community Especially from Yeah Perspective of being a woman yes I think social me and I say that with you know I say that not trying to sound naive because I know a lot of military wise you know you're in a duty station so so long show where people are regularly but I think it's difficult to because it just takes work and I we just think it should be easier and faster than it is no I think it it can just feel very much like everybody has their people I mean it's like you know like I said social media certainly component and I think because so you'll probably get it right yeah but that is that for hosted topic community so challenging for the Jen's ears and the more than whatnot right now well it's not authentic connection like big with somebody is yeah it doesn't go as deep as that you know like it's you know social media is good to a point because they had a deep inside desires belong but you know just having to having to kind of figure out how to do it so have you don't have three four five years to make your people right so so but I think sometimes we we expect it to take less work than it does and so we have to just be the one to put ourselves out there into social social media certainly plays into that kind of gives us a low grade sense of socialization we're kind of tricked into feeling we belong it's and if you live off base it's it can seem like everybody has their people or it's harder to find where do I fit in you know as me and how can I sometimes or always lonely and in the past it's been generally you know the older you are the more lonely you feel like you know they really and whatnot but for the but for the first time yeah has place and it's a gift in many ways especially mill spouses being able to communicate with family that lives who knows how far away and but whose real active on social media is not giving the time to realize stuff that they might because they're just using all lesson this other way but I do think it you know you know certainly as a military spouse I saw this I I'm not a millennial or a agenda but my you know you moved somewhere new and sounds like a band aid for a short term health but no help for the long term because it's not authentic not such it's not authentic communication like in person connection is the shallow sense of connection it just it it it drains it still drains energy so perhaps somebody is not you share 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Episode 131 Congress - Baltimore Edition
"Thank you for joining the American Revolution Today. Episode One thirty one the Continental Congress Baltimore Edition over the last few weeks. We've covered some of the most pivotal events of the revolution. The massive British army under general. How invaded New York? A New Jersey sending the continental army fleeing before it the continental army than counter to retake Jersey. And last week we looked at events. Events in the south over the same period as Tories in Florida with their creek and seminole allies seemed to have no trouble pushing into patriot. Control troll Georgia. Today I WanNa talk about what the Continental Congress was doing as all these events unfolded as the British army push toward Philadelphia in December. Seventeen seventy six. The continental army was not able to mount much of any defense. Many on both sides assume that the British would take Philadelphia before ending the years offensive members of Congress not eager to become prisoners. War decided to leave Philadelphia Philadelphia on December twelfth. The Congress voted to adjourn and reconvene in Baltimore Maryland. The following week in in Baltimore locals. I offered Congress the courthouse but it was too small instead. Congress rented the Henry Fight House which actually was a hotel and tavern on the western edge of town. The three story fourteen room brick building had several rooms large enough for committee meetings at the time it was the largest building in Baltimore. Congress rented the building from fight for three months. For sixty pounds sterling overall members. Were not happy with Baltimore. It was not the charming city that exists today as one member put it. The town was exceedingly expensive and exceedingly dirty. That at times members could make their way to the Assembly Hall only on horseback through the deep mud in his diary John Adams called it the dirtiest place in the world there was also a hundred and seven year. Wait for Orioles. Tickets tickets putting aside the conditions in Baltimore. Congress got to work remember. Mid December was the low point of the Patriot movement. Everyone expected the British to take Philadelphia. The continental army might be captured in the process. And if not officers and soldiers jurors were already deserting what they saw as a lost cause congress had been reluctant to turn over much power to General Washington and the rest of the military Terry leadership for fear of losing civilian control of the army since there was no executive branch. Congress itself had to act as a department department of war trying to run everything through committees with the current chaos of events. Congress voted on December twenty seventh give General Washington special powers for six months to raise his own army from the states. Appoint officers and take appropriate. Action against uncooperative cooperative civilians. This was the day after Washington's victory at Trenton. But the timing was purely coincidental. It's not clear whether word of the victory had even reached Congress by the time of the vote. The matter had been under debate for several days prior so this was not about handing how power to a victorious general it was about Congress effectively admitting that it was not capable of making the necessary executive decisions that had to remade decisively and quickly by a commander in chief Congress placed a six month time limit on the powers to make sure that Washington did not become a a dictator with the army on the verge of collapse and the only serious replacement for Washington. General Charles Lee now a British prisoner Congress decided it had to go all in depending on Washington to run the army as best saw fit. Congress expressed concern about some recent prisoners as as well it directed Washington to investigate and protests General House treatment of Richard Stockton whose capture I discussed back in episode one. Eighteen treatment of captured member of the Continental Congress was an issue near and dear to the hearts of the rest of the members. Congress Congress also denounced British treatment of Charles Lee when initially captured. There were rumors that Li was going to be shipped back to England and hanged as a deserter or Trader Congress affirmed Washington's position that if the British hanged in American general the Americans would hang a British officer of the same name rank by the time Congress passed this resolution though the British were already treating Lee quite well. They allowed Lee to send for his dogs and in his servants General How met personally with Lee during this time. How eventually got lead to send a letter to Congress asking them to send a the delegation to New York to discuss peace terms by mid February though it appeared that the Americans were back on the offensive and Congress rejected acted Lee's proposal? Congress was not ready to consider any peace proposal if Britain did not recognize American independence and that position required quired military victory. Washington's minor victories in New Jersey had been a huge boost for morale but they did not really change the thinking on either her side. That Britain would eventually crush the rebellion. Unless the American psyche get a few more countries involved. I mentioned back in episode one fifteen fifteen that Congress had appointed Benjamin Franklin and Arthur Lee to work as commissioner along with Silas Deane in France. They needed to pull France into the war with Britain. Congress however did not want to rely on France alone. Franklin had only arrived in France in late December before Franklin could do much of anything let alone get any reports back to Congress. The delegates added to Franklin's duties by appointing him to serve as a commissioner to the court of Spain. Both France and Spain had lost colonies to Britain during the seven years war. Congress hope that both both countries find this an opportune time to reclaim lost. Real Estate. While Britain was tied up with America entry of any other a European power into the war against Britain would force London to spread its resources more thinly and give America a better chance of holding onto onto its independence. I'm going to get into Franklin's exploits in Paris in a future episode but for now I WANNA point out that Congress this was already expanding his role and attempting to get whatever European powers into a war. That would improve American odds of winning Congress. Also so was not convinced that anyone could convince France to start a new war with Britain if they could not get France into the war congress at least hope to receive leave more covert assistance in the form of munitions and other supplies needed to help with the war effort as if there was not enough going on political leaders. In the New Hampshire grants met any convention in the town of Westminster they drafted their own declaration of independence calling align themselves the Republic of new Connecticut a few months later they would change the name to Vermont. The declaration was especially controversial because New York still considered this territory to be part of New York anxious not to annoy the New York delegation. Congress opted to ignore Noor this declaration entirely not approving or criticizing it it would not receive a delegation from the self-proclaimed Republic nor or do anything else to recognize it status. The people of Vermont would have to wait more than a decade to get any recognition for this reason. I'm Moley mentioning this in passing for now I will talk more about the politics of Vermont. Independence in a future episode. A much more immediate problem for Congress was money. Congress had been pumping out millions of dollars in paper money which were essentially promises that the bearer someday would receive Steve Hard currency but especially when it looked like the British might win. No one wanted to accept the continental currency. Since a British victory meant there would be nobody around to make good on that paper even when the Americans look like they had a chance. Victory though continental paper continually tenuously suffered from hyperinflation. Congress had no plan in place to receive any hard money that is golden silver to pay off the paper. Ver- states would not give power to collect taxes it could only get anything from the states if the states unanimously agreed to such Japan and Congress never seen capable of getting them to do that on January. Fourteenth Congress passed some recommendations for states to come them up with tax money but for a people fighting war over a foreign government trying to collect taxes from the states. There was a strong inclination nation for many states to oppose this anyone ever getting anything of value in exchange for their paper currency continued to look like quite a gamble. Congress only response to this was to order people to accept the money at face value in exchange for their goods. The the only time this really worked was when soldiers pointed their guns at merchants and ordered them to turn over their goods in exchange for paper or go to jail as a result. Few people were willing to supply the government with much of anything during this session. Congress approved barring another thirteen million dollars. There's through the sale of loan certificates it increase the interest rates from four percent to six percent but even with these changes. The risks were too two high for most speculators. In December and January New England leaders met at a conference in Providence Rhode Island to discuss plus the growing problems of government credit and currency acceptance. Although over in Britain Adam Smith had just published his new book the the wealth of Nations. No one in America seemed interested in the invisible hand of the market. Instead delegates recommended the establishment of mandatory reprises range of commonly needed goods and forcing merchants to accept paper money at those prices the continental Congress endorsed I the New England conferences recommendations and also recommended that the middle and southern states hold similar conferences. This of course only continued continued to devalue the continental dollar and created even more economic chaos across the continent but to be fair Congress really had had no choice it had no power to raise money through taxes and little chance of obtaining that power in the foreseeable future states would not come come up with the necessary funds to prosecute the war as a result. Delegates saw no option other than to continue to print paper money and force people to accept it in exchange for goods and services so in addition to building a diplomatic core and creating a new economic system out of nothing congress also spent considerable time running military affairs although they had just given Washington a great deal of authority over such things. Congress Congress could not help but metal in disputes. That came to its attention. Congress had appointed Jon Morgan as physician in Chief of the army back in October. Tober seventeen seventy five. This was right after it removed. Benjamin Church on suspicion of espionage. Dr Morgan had been a quaker physician in Philadelphia before the war but had served in the French and Indian war and left his quaker upbringing behind many years before the revolution started he became a committed patriot and by most accounts served reasonably well as physician in chief for well over a year. The big complaint against him was that that he was unable to make medical supplies available to regimental surgeons but the problem there was not administrative competence. It was that the continental army army had no supplies and no money to buy them. Dr William Shippen also from Philadelphia and doctor Samuel Stringer of Albany. Vigny both tried to undermine Morgan and have him replaced. In the fall of seventeen. Seventy six congress had decided to divide medical Michael Authority Liberty Morgan's authority to New England and giving shipping administrative control over the mid Atlantic region where the continental army army was now. Centred stringer was put in charge of the northern army medical staff and he simply refused to obey any of Morgan's orders. Morgan visited Congress in an attempt to figure out why they had done this but could not get a hearing. Finally in January seventeen seventy seven congress decided it had had enough without consulting Washington and without any hearings. Congress simply dismissed Morgan and stringer from the army and put ship in charge of everything Morgan unhappy with his dismissal and unable to get a hearing published a book over two Hundred Pages Long Trying to vindicate himself and his reputation. And if you're interested in reading the details of this crisis by reading that full book it is available as a free e book and there's a link to it on my blog at blog dot an REF podcast dot com. Dr Morgan made it a goal in life to take down shipping in late. Seventeen seventy eight Morgan. Working with Dr Benjamin Rush who was also a member of Congress and also a Philadelphia physician. Russian had ship and brought up on charges of fraud and speculation among other things the accused ship in of speculating in the sale of goods needed. Aided by the wounded and personally profiting from their sale ship been avoided conviction by one vote and continued to serve until he resigned signed in seventeen. Eighty one congress later exonerated Morgan of any wrongdoing but it also did not reinstate him. His Army career rear was over for good. Congress also made another important medical decision during this session. It recommended that all continental soldiers. There's receive smallpox inoculations now. This was a controversial decision. A safe vaccination for smallpox would not be discovered covered until many years after the war. The inoculation as it existed at this time often left the soldiers sick with a mild version of smallpox Fox for several months rendering them incapable of fighting or marching then actually also killed a very small percentage of those inoculated for these reasons. Washington had at one point band inoculations and even jailed some private doctors who were inoculating soldiers at at the same time though smallpox could ravage armies. It had killed thousands of soldiers especially in the Northern Army during the Quebec campaign where I really think it was decisive in the failure to secure Canada for the Patriots smallpox had already claimed the life of Major General John. Thomas as well as the Ariz First Foreign General Frederick Ville Him Baron Vaughn Wuttke both of whom had succumbed to the disease months earlier Adams cold smallpox ten times more terrible than the Britons Canadians and Indians together. The the decision to inoculate soldiers with which Washington had also come to agree would end up saving thousands of desperately needed soldiers lives Congress. Congress also created a commissary general of American prisoners whose job would be to provide necessities for the American. POW's that the British were holding living in New York. As I mentioned back in episode one twenty nine the thousands of prisoners who were mostly captured in the New York campaign and surrender at Fort Washington. Ashington were literally starving to death aboard prison. Ships and imprisons after Congress approved the petition Washington appointed Elias Booed who'd not to serve as commissary general and I will discuss his activities in more detail in a future episode. Congress also took the opportunity to use this session to appoint generals as I said. Congress had granted Washington Authority to commission field officers but Congress retained aimed for itself the Authority to Commission New General Officers early in the session it appointed Henry Knox as the new general and Chief of Artillery Hillary. It also appointed Francis Nash General to assist with the Organization and Defense of the Carolinas toward the end of the session. Congress decided to make some larger promotion decisions on February nineteenth. It promoted five men to Major General William Alexander Zander. Also known as Lord Sterling Thomas Mifflin Arthur Sinclair Adam. Stephen and Benjamin Lincoln two days later it promoted nine others to Brigadier General. Now all promotions can be controversial in the sense of who gets it. Who doesn't but these appointments appointments had a particular impact? On one man Benedict Arnold General Arnold had seniority over all five of the appointees not to Major General Arnold was already ticked that he had not received promotion in an earlier round back in August. Seventeen seventy six but at least in that round all those who did get promoted were senior to him. Even if their service was not particularly distinguished. Arnold who had almost single-handedly held off the British invasion from Canada. That fall and who is one of the most senior Brigadier Generals in service seemed lock for promotion in this round when you get passed over for officers with less seniority. That's usually taken that. The leadership does not respect back to you and that you should probably resign Arnold wrote to Washington enquiring about this and indicated that he was probably going to resign he only held off because Washington said there must have been some mistake and that he should wait until Washington could make inquiries into what had happened as it turned out there was no mistake. Congress had considered and rejected Arnold. The main reason given was that Congress already had two major general's from Connecticut and before this no state had three major generals of course. It didn't seem to bother anyone. That Virginia got his his third Major General in this round. In addition to the commander in chief General. Adam Stephen of Virginia who just got bumped up was particularly undistinguished and someone who general Washington despised. The reality was that despite Arles impressive fighting record he did not have friends friends in Congress to advocate for him the members knew he had a record of fighting with his superiors and with the officers under his command. Arnold wrote out several resignations but ended up remaining at his post mostly because Washington pleaded with him to do so and promised to work things out. Arnold wrote back to Washington to say that he could interpret this action in no way other than Congress had lost faith in him as a leader and that it was politely asking Arnold to resign. The only thing that kept him from doing so immediately was that he expected Congress to send another leader to take over his command and his desire to go to Philadelphia and seek a court martial prior to resigning with that he would have the opportunity to hear the criticisms against is Tim and defend his reputation before he submitted his resignation. This dispute would linger for a few months. But in May following Arnold's noted oded leadership at the Danbury raid which I will discuss in a future episode. Congress did finally decide to give him the promotion however going from the most Senior Brigadier General to the most junior major general met that the promotion changed nothing in terms of who could give him orders and who he could order order the same five men who had been promoted over him were still his senior year as major generals. So Arnold's grudge against Congress for being denied tide. Proper respect for his services would continue even after he was promoted to major general by the end of February. Delegates decided the continental Army's counter-offensive in New Jersey at made Philadelphia apparently secure for the time being on February twenty seventh. The delegates delegates adjourned their Baltimore Session and agreed to resume work in Philadelphia on March fifth. Freeing the Baltimore session to an end. Next week I will look at how the British military and political leadership debated strategic war plans and prepared for the seventeen seventy seven and fighting season. Hi thanks for joining the American Revolution. podcast after show this week. I want to say thank you to Mike Hager. As a member of the shows Robert Morris Circle on Patriae on this is the highest level. I have set up on patron and I very very much appreciate the generosity of folks like Mike who helped cover the cost of producing the show each week. It's a great help to keep us moving forward this week. We covered the time that Congress spent in Baltimore in late. Seventeen seventy six and early seventeen seventy seven when they feared the British might capture Philadelphia although the British did not take Philadelphia. At this time. Congress did prove that it could continue to operate regardless of what cities the British might be able to capture. The Baltimore session was a fairly productive. One Congress turned out a great many generals in this session and optimistic. Mystic Congress had authorized General Washington to enlist seventy five thousand soldiers in his army of that never came close to happening. The continental army never never had more than fifty thousand soldiers at one time and even those numbers were later in the war. You may have seen statistics in places that the army wants reached eighty eighty thousand soldiers but that number is combining continental forces as well as state and militia forces. And even that combined estimate. Seems Rather Hi Timmy. In any event to plan for this much larger army that Congress hoped for they began promoting generals to command the army but when the large army she did not manifest. They really had more generals than they knew what to do with in. This problem was only exacerbated a few months later when they started getting shiploads loads of French officers whom Silas Deane the agent France had promised could become generals in the continental army. I'll talk about that issue in a future episode but the excess of generals did become a real problem now the nine men who received promotion to brigadier general in in February seventeen seventy seven ever made it past that to major general in fact no American officer got promoted to Major General for the remainder the war unless he was already a brigadier by the end of seventeen. Seventy six of the five men who received promotions to Major General in in February of seventy seven General Stephen would be cashiered. Within a year for drunkenness during battle Mifflin would resign after about two years amidst charges of embezzlement Saint Clair would be court martialed for abandoning Fort Ticonderoga and never give it another important command during the war. Lincoln would command the largest continental loss of the war at Charleston near the end of the war. Only William Alexander also known as Lord Sterling. What have a fairly impressive and relatively unblemished record from that class? Sadly for Lord Sterling he would die of natural causes near the end of the war. And get to play no role. In the post-war creation of the United States I also mentioned in passing this episode that for months declared its independence attendance during the time while Congress was meeting in Baltimore. I really haven't given it much attention. Because the nation as a whole wasn't paying much attention at the time time New York was already one of the most loyalist leaning states during the war. Doing anything to annoy New Yorkers like taking huge chunk of their state away from them could possibly result in New York moving back to the loyalist cam. Just imagine what would have happened. If New Yorkers workers had turned out to support the Burgoyne campaign and see history go in a very different direction so I think it was wise that Congress chose to ignore the whole thing and let the Vermont issue sit in limbo until after the war and even after until the US was formed under the constitution. Listen because it was ignored. The issue of Vermont's independence and its founding is an issue that probably deserves more attention. If you would like to learn more the book I'm recommending this week is called Moses Robinson and the founding of Vermont by Robert Mellow Moses Roses Robinson is probably another one of those important people. You've never heard of that. least if you live outside of Vermont. He was however instrumental in the founding of Vermont. Remond and also led Vermont as governor when it became the fourteenth state. The book which was written by Judge Robert Mellow and published by the Vermont. Vermont Historical Society in two thousand. Fourteen is an interesting look. Both at Robinson's life and also the turbulent years that Vermont struggled for recognition. It covers. Lots of interesting facts like the time. Vermont spent as an independent republic even though no other country recognized it us such that. It was the first state to outlaw slavery before any of the other original thirteen states and that Vermont there's even debated rejoining the British empire rather than being forced to become part of New York again at over four hundred pages. The book is quite thorough. And an interesting interesting read. Also this week I talked about the political infighting over the running of the Medical Corps for the army. I mentioned that that Jon Morgan. Whom Congress ousted in January seventeen seventy seven wrote a book justifying his tenure and covering the political machinations surrounding ending his removal? The book is obviously biased and one-sided but it gives a great primary source insight into the political wrangling of the time. If you're interested in taking a look at the book it's available on Archive Dot Org as a free book and is my online recommendation of the week week. The book is called a vindication of his public character in the station of Director General of the military hospitals and and physician in chief to the American army by Jon. Morgan you can look it up on archive dot org or just use the link that I've Provided on my website at Amr of PODCAST DOT com. Well that's all for this week. I hope you will join me again next week for another other American Revolution podcast.
Show #699: Hope For The Warriors Resilient Warrior Program Targets PTSD
"<music> attention army wives fall in you. Come to my place <music>. Talk radio is leaning longest running podcast providing the latest reports stories interviews and more power you on your military spouse journey four <music> <music> welcome to the show. We're so glad you could join us. I'm your host. I shall read in la bla. You're listening army wife talk radio the reading and longest running podcasts of its kind this is joe six hundred ninety nine and today is monday august nineteenth twenty nineteen and i'm your co host caroline schaefer. We have great show clan for you this evening. Are the featured guest. Tonight is brand samson brienne. We'll talk with a about who for the warriors the national nonprofit dedicated to restoring a sense of self family and hope for veterans service members and family members you can connect with hope for the warriors on social media on their facebook youtube and website. 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You can follow each of us individually on twitter you get kind of the behind the scenes look into our army lives to. We're just like you well carolina. I'm excited to hosted you again tonight and i'd love to catch up on what's going on in the schaefer household in north carolina. I'm excited to be here with you again tonight. <hes> well yesterday. Hey my husband celebrated his forty sixth birthday a our and our twenty one year old came down in the evening and we went to the youngest and we went to dinner and we haven't seen him in that. I feel like it's been a couple of months. I don't know i. I don't keep track because that would be sad. It was good to see and then i'm yeah. I'm prepping to leave for a few days to see my best friend. Thank you thanks to the army honestly <hes> she's one of my best friends in she. Her youngest is going away to college so i'm gonna go spend a few days with her because i know how scary that is and and how it's just it's an emotional roller coaster so we're gonna replace rebel and need avocado toast and drink coffee and stuff like that this gonna be. It's gonna be it's gonna be a week of lots of love and and you know a motive and stuff but still be involved like a good road trip. Perhaps oh no. I'm flying in fact. It'll take me oh. I'm flying baltimore. I know well. The drive to raleigh is actually longer than the flights from raleigh to baltimore two more minutes. I know right but yeah yeah. So what about you what's been going on over there. L. testu to i guess carolina. The question is what haven't been going on. It's you know it's like one of those. You know you're busy. During the summer with like leisurely huge relief things in life is always busy <hes> but then like school starts back up and it is just like hitting the ground running so we talked about last sneak. My daughters i say school was last monday and then the today's my first day back at school this semester <hes> and so i'm really you know there's some new leadership opportunities coming up and turn stuff and everything everything everything so really here in the knob lock household for me. You know i know it's kind of a buzz word but really trying to think about what self care looks like for me and <hes> how that's gonna pan out with the coming semester and so i'm a person that loves to be busy but i've learned the hard way in past years years that in that business i don't need to take time to rest and that's a look different different teams and so right now you know i'm gonna take power talk during my son's nat tire when my husband gets home mortgage home from deployment when he gets home at night i hibernate in the backyard with piece of dark chocolate in about her while <hes> the speed run up and not have to do the mom things or you know an hour or you know however long and you know the water turns cold and i turn into a broom. Whatever is fine yeah no judgment all right. You know i love that like that. Those are so nice especially especially dark chocolate yeah yeah and then i looked like i had a very strict rule. I do not read schoolbooks in the bathtub like if he's point white plus can't highlight stuff in the bathtub that is just not going to work so i try to read like for fun <hes> just to fill a bucket because i'm so much you better mom and wife and leader and woman if i'm not burnt to chris and fried and you know that kind missing so i've really learned that the hard way and i wanted to keep doing that gives me move forward making that a priority so carolyn. What do you do what do you you do for self care. I know you're in a different even life. You know you don't have kinda. Humans your current anymore but you still working two jobs and you a._b._c. are and it'd c._b._s. And probably a boatload other volunteer stuff that i can't keep up. So what do you do for self care and restoration. It's interesting interesting that you ask me 'cause <hes> well. When i was a student i read books actual books more kind of like you're saying you know you make sure that it's not a school book <hes> and <hes> now i read but i listen to audio books and i still like to read but i did find it easier to read read them i think because i was just constantly reading actual books books and sometimes i miss that but i for myself to have kind of a quiet time i call it. <hes> i call it old people. Would you know how you know like your grandparents could just sit there and they would just close your eyes and half the time you weren't sure if they were really asleep you know right and and sometimes they were but sometimes they weren't and they were they just resting and even if i if i wake up too early i think this is a good time for me to quit and i'm going to just i'm not gonna force my back to sleep. If i wake up in our early for whatever reason i'm just gonna arrest instead of yeah because if i get up up and i start being super productive which i do sometimes then i'm done by news and that might not be done by noon yeah yeah you might have like an appointment then at four o'clock or something a meeting or you might be on it'd be t._r. Eight o'clock at night eastern right back with struggle face yourself. I get it yeah. I'm the same way like i do. I do quiet time in the morning like you know i pray and i do my devotional injured. Ill and read my bible and that kind of stuff and it's funny again with the different seasons of life. My quiet time is very much not quiet but real making an honest effort in a tent just to like like wait to check my phone to check my email because the temptation is there but i know if i go straight from my phone and start looking at the email and facebook book and whatever i just get sucked in and i may not nice person i turn in twice a hat i if i had not had a minute reseller and focus i'm tom. I can say that like my roommates in college. Be like you need to stop for ever and so i i'm a heifer is i don't have a minute to drink coffee. The and you know read whatever you know yeah interrupted about seven times by my little two year old son meeting more eggs or the a cup of milk or you know to let me know he needs his pants changed or who knows what but he's the show changed on t._v. But still i'm like before i start my day the press pause and it's cool how minutes just you put actually returns later in the day so <hes> yeah but those kids are always always asked always asking yeah. Nobody twenty went and got real cereal and underwear for him and he's twenty one. He was like mom i was. It's like okay oh kids it keeps us on our toes and i great real sorry to say uh-huh and now we're talking about guys on air. Sorry not sorry it. Really you guys deserve it. Let's be honest. There's no. There's no more anyway in the rest of our family. Let's go ahead and change jersey and <hes>. I know what's going on at work this week sure so this week on our facebook page judge just kind of a bad kid we posted a graphic that said you might be mill spouse if your child still asks about the yellow house and in pushing a verbal request for the color of the next house upon receiving p._c._s. orders so we had some great answers from some of you and if you haven't shared your answer yet please. We'd love to hear what you have the head over to our facebook page and let us know if you're kiddo has said something like this or or you know something like this about you sharia. You guys if p._c._s. Way more than we have to in your kids are <music> little because this happened with you guys yeah where my daughter she's six and a half and so she's just now really getting for health as a memory the elephant which just blows my mind because i think when she was born like she inherited all the memory is stored up and just like suck my memory away because as i used to have a memory like an elephant and i would remember weird abstract things and i'm like i don't know what color our house was in washington state but that girl all she knows <hes> she knows all the things and she'll act. She's necessarily ask for colors the house because they haven't had any. We've not had a yellow house yeah but she'll say a certain friends like winter you know. When can we go see this friend or hey when we moved here. Is there a splash pad down the road or remember that one time literally four years ago in our house in georgia. You know what i'm like. I don't even remember our house in georgia. I live there but you know so. I think it's gonna get even more interesting as both the kids get older for sure that's incredible because she's only a first grader right. I i don't know wow scary weird. That's impressive. That's great yeah. We never really p._c._s. enough for that to happen with us. So like our kids are more kind of like what you were saying more. <hes> what's nearby on post versus this when we were fourteen him when we moved a few times <hes> but it was because we're off the coast and also and then they were and then they said oh we're going to redo the house and we're moving to the other side of the streets but the houses the same color <hes> yeah oughta house and then yeah so yeah. That's you know it's more. I love hearing the story so i love it with the kids that have grown up in. You're gonna have a lot of talk about five years generally. It's gonna be fun. I am going. I'm gonna look from here for sure so <hes> let's go ahead and move on and chat about our blog this week on eighty so this week <hes> we actually leash shared <hes>. I actually wrote a blog. It's my personal reflection about the recent shooting that occurred here in the place that i currently call home. I'll pass texas and so i can test <hes> processing has been difficult certainly for me. Also i know for a lot of people near and far. Here's a little excerpts from the blog that i wrote. I couldn't look at the news reports anymore. I wanted to distance myself from this information like i done so many times before when this happened in other places but i couldn't not this time i looked and now i realize that all this is is happening to us in our town eleven miles from our house. Listen to fifteen minute drive. Although that particular walmart was at our walmart it was still part of my west west texas story. That was the place where i purchased a pink leotard for my daughter skies ballet classes last spring that was where i bought new green and black toddler adler size six shoes for my son when his feet hit a growth spurt earlier this summer that was the place that my husband and i got groceries together on our final date late last fall before he deployed some nights as ridiculous that in the military spouse i call el paso my city right now. It is my city over the last fifteen months. This place had become home for me. I love it. I sometimes agean retiring here. I relish view from our backyard. I've made best friends here. It sounded wonderful church. My son wanted to talk here. My daughter selden kindergarten here. We successfully weathered nine months deployment here this this is home and now there's a gaping wound that will leave a scar so deep that it will forever be noticed and then all of grief life sorrow anger confusion. Something beautiful has blossomed town has come together to help those directly impacted by this incredible tragedy meals are being served first first responders and survivors blood banks overrun with donations funeral costs are being waived completely selfish evil act that is permanently separated loved ones between life and death has simultaneously united community. There's beauty slowly rising from the ashes this morning. I woke just as the sun was rising. I opened the curtains and looked in east. The sunrise with amazing is peaking over the mountain streams gold orange orange pink and purple streaked sky. It was a vision of hope at that moment. I was glad i looked if my we're still we shut facing anything. Opposite direction is i've been tempted to do in days. Past the shooting. I would have missed it. May are l. Paso fort louis community continue to draw together this this mill spouse heart of mine phrase we can look this horrible act violent straight in the face and declare that while the permanent scar we will oh he'll go ahead. I'll pass you shake but we are not broken. We are strong listeners. I buy into the entirety of my reflection on this event over armoire network dot com look for the post entitled el paso strong. Okay hold on my chair. That was thank you serena. Thank you for sharing your heart and being so vulnerable about this species so much <hes> listeners just a quick reminder that links to everything including treatise block walk and that we've talked about tonight. We'll be posted in our twitter feed any comment section below. This podcast on blog talk radio dot com. It's time now for short commercial break up next our new six. Janine will bring us. You need to know news. Stay tuned. We'll be great product or service reach. 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High ladies this week story is one that we might need to sleep on and that's what we were talking about sleep or lack of it's no surprise that service members and their families report higher rates of sleep struggles it began with a study in two thousand ten and that was published in the journal sleep it on that deployment tie iraq and afghanistan significantly influenced sleep quality and quantity in a population of forty one thousand and military service personnel the american academy of sleep medicine reports that participants who completed a follow up survey during deployment or twenty percent more or likely to report having trouble falling asleep or staying asleep then those who had not yet been deployed reviewing the data collected between between two thousand one and two thousand three and follow up survey between two thousand four and two thousand six found that the average military members slept six and a half hours is per night this fall short of the national sleep foundation recommendation of eight and a half to nine and a half hours for young adults ages eighteen to twenty five and seven to nine hours for adults ages twenty six to sixty four while jillian. I can't say that this is a surprise surprise. I mean my husband is notorious for grabbing a cap'n at any chance. He can get but i find. It's harder for me to do that. You're not alone more recent. Studies have found that spouses and children of service members also report reduced sleep quality and quantity especially well servicemember is away from home for training and deployment according to sleep dot org children do not get enough sleep have expected does such which is being cranky or fussy seem groggy or need to be woken up after initial waking and falling asleep during short car rides i did smoke small signs of lack of sleep especially in elementary age children include hyperactivity lacking interest struggling with academics snoring and meeting regular nap the jewelry and how does this impact academic performance children sleep is critical to a child's academic success sleep foundation dot org shares that children ages six to thirteen need nine to eleven hours hours of sleep each night. They also say that sleep problems and disorders are prevalent at this age poor or inadequate sleep can lead to mood swings behavioral behavioral problems such as eighty h._d. And cognitive problems that impact on their ability to learn school okay doing claim so i have to ask what is asleep for fry deprived military family supposed to do great question the national national sleep foundation offers sleep tips to help you consider taking a look at your sleep situation a new school year. Starting is a great time to improve your entire family sleep sleep health so i stick to a schedule heavyset bedtime and wake up time even on the weekends this helps to regulate your body's clock helps you fall asleep and stay asleep and additionally it simplifies <hes> you can help simplify your children's bedtime routine <hes> but keep it consistent <hes> to practice a relaxing bedtime ritual step away from bright lights and electric's including your phone tablet and tv additionally choose relaxing activities rather than those that might cause excitement stress or anxiety next avoid napping if you can't fall asleep at bedtime and your napping even just asked to power nap cut that from your schedule next exercise daily vigorous exercise is ideal but any exercise can help with your sleep health. We'll check your sleep environment. Make sure your room is cool. Ideally between sixty and sixty seven degrees year by jim should be free of any noise and distractions use flacco curtains shades earplugs white noise machines as needed to help make a burke restful space used muse bright late in the morning so to help manage your circadian rhythm avoid bright lights in the evening and use bright lights in the morning and finally avoid avoid disruptive foods. 'cause foods can include caffeine alcohol cigarettes and heavy metals. Those are great tips joe joe lean and we just want to say thanks for waking us up to this important information regarding military families in sleep listeners. Don't go anywhere wise network. We'll be right back with our guests branson to talk with us about hope for the warriors. I'm probably okay to have one more drink before. I drive home. I'm probably okay so i opened the window to stay alert probably of kids books and gum and remove step out of the car please. I probably made a mistake. 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I'm your host trees and block and i'm your co host caroline shaper yes brian the anti-everything earned her master of social work degree in two thousand fourteen from east carolina university in greenville north carolina she currently we hold dual licenses in the state of north carolina and california hasn't licensed clinical social worker and a licensed clinical addiction in specialist. She currently works as director of clinical support services with hope for the warriors ran is married to an active active duty marine and they have two children. Welcome to the show brienne. Thank you for having me well. We're excited to chat with us tonight so let's get started if you can just tell us a little bit more about yourself and where you're calling from this evening sure for <hes> at carolina stated i am the spouse of an active duty marine <hes> we are high school sweethearts and we have been married for almost sixteen years. Here's <hes> and he <hes> well. He just came up on his seventeenth year in the marine corps so we are eagerly awaiting retirement in the next few years <noise> <hes> yes. We have two children. I like to say they're small but they're really not. They're eleven and thirteen. Though that fun ages to <hes> you know to be around <hes> but yeah we currently are stationed at camp pendleton in southern california and our previous duty station as you probably can guess was at camp lejeune in north carolina great. I you know you guys have been in seventeen years and my husband and niagara not me. I'm the cheerleader but my husband's been fifteen and a half so i laugh. I have to travel when it's like. We're waiting for the twenty unlike so are we getting so close. <hes> <hes> yeah oh yeah oh yeah so <hes> brienne share with health about hope for the warriors. Here's how did this nonprofit started sure so hope for the warriors started <hes> little over twelve years ago and what happened was it was a grassroots effort and it was started by a couple of marine corps spouses that were stationed at camp lejeune together <hes> they were noticing you know with the initial invasion in iraq and dealing with iraq and afghanistan early on those years there was a lot of need both financially and emotionally for family members and the service members <hes> whenever there is combat injuries so hope for the warriors originally started as a way to raise funds to help the travel for the spouses so they could <hes> go bedside whether it was over in germany or <hes> you know at walter reed or other facilities like that were that were needed to support the families <hes> so it started aboard camp lejeune north carolina <hes> and it really started with one run that was a fundraiser um which is still to this day held every single year and from there it just grew and grew to where we are now <hes> where we're able to provide so much supports us so many different <hes> aspects and different branches to <hes> so we are not just the marine corps organization right so oh you're almost kind a little bit like army network because we started out just really focusing on army wives but in the years since we <hes> have grown the last almost fifteen years we covered branches to provide resources and information for them so i i really identify with that part and so you mentioned the resources and how you you provide support across the bridges but what exactly just hope for the warriors do so we provide <hes> all different types of supports you post nine eleven veteran population and their family <hes> originally most of our program were centered around those that were suffering or dealing with combat injuries <hes> but since then that we've actually evolved and so we do incorporate other things such as military sexual trauma we've also been able to even expand <hes> <hes> to address homelessness policy <hes> and population among those that are receiving a very limited income once they leave active duty so we do that through three different main arms of our organization. The first one is clinical health and wellness. Which is what i am a part of <hes> and in this we offer are things such as emergency financial assistance. We offer a comprehensive case management. We have a program called bill military and veteran caregiver ever support services <hes> we also have another program that is stability korean related and so that is another form of financial assistance. It's aimed at providing financial support when the veteran is seeking inpatient treatment for <hes> those invisible wounds such p._t._s._d. and t._b._i. <hes> in addition to that we have sports and recreation so that program we actually have a bunch of different activities in there so we have a run for the warriors warriors that we have all across the country throughout the whole year we offer those we also offer some really awesome adaptive sports programs and this obviously the whole premise is for those that were in the military is to get them active again so whether it's that they kind of lost that passion or drive i have to be active like they want worth or maybe it's a situation where they feel like they are not able to do something they've done before such as running <hes> and we introduce them to a a bunch of different options and availability or i'm sorry <hes> options and opportunities that they can try things such as hands likely or <hes> even learning how to train and run if they h._m._o. To if they've got prosthetics or other injuries and then finally we have our transition program and so this looks at a multitude of areas of transition and so generally when you think transition you think of that piece where you're leaving active duty and you're transitioning over to veteran status <hes> that was originally the focus of transition transition programming and what we provide there have since expanded it also and we know that there's different types of transition as go through different seasons of life so there can these situations where maybe a south is now entering the workforce because the veterans not able to work anymore <hes> you know things like that where we can provide scholarships <hes> <hes> to help the spouses and the caregivers return to school so they can better support the family <hes> and then also of course job seeking assistance so if a the veteran was working in a certain field and is no longer able to do that due to injuries or other issue we can help partner them with other <hes> companies and even even help them find better strengths that that will fit a job that will allow them to take better care of themselves. Okay that that's a lot. There's a lot of programs right there for <laughter>. Wow that's incredible. <hes> oh so wait wait what programs does hope for the warriors specifically offer for military spouses so for military spouses <hes> all of the programs i listed before <hes> that i've talked about they're open to all spouses <hes> but what we the most need for is our military and veteran caregiver support services <hes> this program we offer local face to face workshops <hes> focus on wellness for the caregiver we also offer virtual workshop <hes> through our hub and then we have a caregiver facebook hub and so that that is a facebook group that is established healthshare or <hes> resources connect other caregivers obviously share situations that that <hes> you know that are very common as far as benefits and those kinds of difficulties are <hes> you know sharing knowledge with all other caregivers that are in similar situations and and then we also have our spouses and caregivers scholarship as i mentioned before that's obviously a very popular one and we all we have different types of scholarship program so we have some that are specific for social work. <hes> we have others that are specific for those that are baby seeking <hes> kind of that type of <hes> the word escapes me now but things like <hes> lobotomy and those types of things that are that are more skill base <hes> type of degrees either certifications <hes> and then of course other types of programming for two and four year degrees <hes> and then also we have have are resilient family which is a partnership with our resilient warrior program that we offer to all veterans and their caregivers that focused on wellness. That's awesome so with all these programs obviously has kind of honed in on the different stressors. I <hes> within military families but what are some of the biggest stressors that you see when you're working with the yeah so i would say a lot of the stressors that we see in clinical health and wellness are related to financial issues <hes> so it can be a lot of what we work with our population wise is <hes> veterans who are already retired or discharged from active duty service <hes> and so we see things. Were you know unfortunately there's the a garnishment or <hes> there's issues with pay. <hes> that can be a hardship for the family. Another example would be <hes> <hes> when the veteran decides that they need to go to inpatient treatment and maybe they were working and so now the families without some sort of income <hes> for you know thirty sixty ninety days <hes> the really financial is a lot of it <hes> so we try to step in and provide that support financially so that the families allows her focus on other the areas that needs to be addressed so transition to of course is a big one whether again it's transitioning out of active duty and veteran status or transitioning from one career to another or of course p._c._s. or moving you know we see a lot of that to our families are moving to be closer to their family <hes> <hes> or even moving closer to better treatment facilities for the veteran to get better access to care yeah. I would think those would be important factors when you're dealing with things like that. <hes> and i feel like finances always seemed to be. I mean there. Are there definitely stressful. Just in general you know when they're not enough and so i can't even imagine adding it to <hes> even more stressful situation so how do you do you have <hes> tools that you can share you know in our in our time here. How do you recommend for families and spouses <hes> coping with these kinds of stressors. I say the biggest thing that you can do is ask for help. Reach out to anybody. Do you feel comfortable talking to and asking for some sort of help or support <hes> whether it's asking for actual help with the finances or just having a friend or somebody that you trust that you can speak to that you know gonna lend an ear so you can vent and you can discuss your frustrations. Your fears and you can really feel that support from other people so <hes> that made me are outside of the home that way they also can help provide some perspective on the issues and the problems that you're going through and help you find some solutions <hes> <hes> and of course like you guys are talking about the beginning of the segment really just trying to find those things that work for you whether it stuck in out of you know out of the house maybe going for a quick walk around the block if he can or or taking a relaxing bath just those things where you can really unplug <hes> and just and just not have have to worry about certain things for a certain amount of time right and in my <hes> my grandfather and he was a marine we can tell your husband he was actually h._s._e. Coolers like first aid so brown's there but <hes> but my grandmother said once he retired because he was gone. You know six months out of the year for the entire career <hes> that he's still had to keep doing that. You know so they you know so things. Were just normal for them. <hes> for their right so it's definitely important to know what your normal is for your family and it it is would would you say it's unique for <hes> for each family. It's not always the cookie cutter especially with social media cookie cutter postpone. Oh this is yeah this. This is what works for us kind of thing <hes> lutely absolutely that's so important to keep the keep in the back of your mind is what wouldn't work what works for one and family is not gonna work for another <hes> and a lot of times. I think we all of her as military spouses but you know the those that do not have this was the military or so quick to say. I don't know how you do it or i could never do that. <hes> but you know to us that's our normal <hes> <laughter> and so when our spouses around for long periods areas of time. I think that's a little bit more difficult. Sometimes it can be yes yeah. You're so right well. <hes> brand in my senior name aim at right is it pronounced brienne yep absolutely okay perfect but you're gonna take a quick break and to speaking of families though when we come back back let's talk about some of the topics covered that you will offer in the resilient warrior and the resilient family programs is that's all right yeah. That sounds great right. Okay wonderful listeners. If you're listening to our show live right now we would love for you to join us in our show discussion currently taking in place over on twitter you can comment on the show you can ask questions of brienne or just hang out and chat with a._w._s. Core team so head on on over at twitter dot com slash army network to be shorter use the hashtag army mice to participate all the links mentioned in the show tonight. We'll be posted in our twitter feed he'd as well as in the comment section below. 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We're talking with brienza simpson. Who's sharing with us about hope for the warriors. You're bringing him. Before we went to break. We asked if you would share some of the topics covered <hes> with hopefully warriors with your resilient warrior erin reunion family programs so on that how do those two programs resilient warrior and we get family. How do they support military terry veterans and families dealing with p._t._s._d. So this program that we offer resilient warrior and resilient family are actually two separate programs so as the name says one is for the veteran or active duty service member and the other one is for the family members so that would be <hes> generally the caregiver so so whether it's the south it doesn't have to be a caregiver so whether it's the south of an active duty <hes> service member or veteran or somebody that is <hes> a caregiver ever of a warrior or veteran that has any type of <hes> p._t._s._d. That program that all those populations so what we do with this program and this is actually a virtual program and so we offer it over a six week period and what the participants do is they log onto you kind of a virtual classroom so it looks like brady bunch screen <hes> when you log on you get to see everybody's faces and things so it's alive and it's virtual <hes> and i i'm one of the facilitators for the program so i think we have about seven staff that are trained now <hes> to provide this but throughout the six weeks you learn all different types of stress and different types of relaxation responses so you learn very early on how stress stress affects your body both chemically <hes> physically and biologically and then through that you learn to identify the different ways that you who carry stress as an individual so as we said before you know everything is different for each person so once you're identified the different ways that that you carry stress and the way stress impacts your life then we turn it to the other side and we start looking at how do we learn are to make our bodies respond when we need to relax so that's that piece where p._t._s._d. No a lot of times our veterans and <hes> those that are dealing with p._t._s._d. Kind of <music> are always in that heightened state of just feeling stressed so they have that hyper vigilance. They're just they're just up elevated above others that may not feel i stress in the same situation so what we do through the resilient warriors lane families learn how to identify our behaviors and our thoughts <hes> when we're faced with stress and learn how to kind of turn it off really <hes> through different different techniques so some of those are you you know different forms of mindfulness we do some guided imagery and meditation <hes> and then we also do some you know other really cool activities that really again or just based on that mindfulness peace. So how do you pay attention to your body to understand when you're really feeling stressed and how do you learn to kind of dial that down uh-huh so that you can respond appropriately in of course overall <hes> have a healthier outcome with less stress that that is great. I'm taking mental notes here to be like would be helpful for me <laughter> and the nice <hes> so tell us a little bit more specifics how these programs have impacted veterans and families so overall. We really see that most of the veterans and and family members that go through these courses. Are you know better off afterwards. They really report that they feel a lot more <hes> just knowledgeable eligible and how stresses impacting them <hes>. It's just really neat when you go through the activities in the courses and everybody gets kind of homework to do for out throughout the week it before the next session but understanding like how you know that really affects you <hes> so that you understand how to deal with it better in the future sure so we always say in the beginning of the course like this is not some magic course. It's gonna make you never have stress again in your life stresses just a part of everyday life. It's what we all have to deal ella. But how do we learn how to deal with it more effectively so simple things like you know going going to run errands that you really don't wanna have to run that day. You know oh that or maybe you're racing against the clock to go run errands before you got to be on the appointment or to pick up kids from school <hes> but just simple things like that learning how to deal with that in a more productive way and learn how to to calm yourself down when you're feeling stressed <hes> so as you can imagine it's beneficial across all areas of life just being able to understand how your body responds to stress and identify it so that you can kind of combat it on the other end. This is so great so where you can sign up and is there a cost associated with these programs so anyone who is interested. If you're post nine eleven you can <hes> sign up through our website so it's hope for the warriors dot org <hes> you just go there. There's a lincoln top that says apply for services in what you do go through and fill out the application that'll send it through through our intakes team team and every single person who applies with our organization will receive a phone call from one of our intakes coordinator <hes> coordinators usually within forty eight business hours they have submitted the application so not only can you sign up for resilient warriors resilient family that way but you can sign up for any of our other programs that you may be interested in <hes> from there get referred over for the resilient warrior and the resilient family courses and the best thing about these courses is they are completely free to anybody who signs up to take them. That's great. That's so good okay so i have an additional question for you and i have this question because my my kids were so yours. Did you say eleven and thirteen yeah her fun ages mind when my husband joined were four and let's see nine and so my my oldest daughter we were actually talking about secondary p._t._s._d. Other day because she's twenty seven now no ayar you finding that my husband will bear during the invasion and then <hes> mhm we had four deployments in eight years and those were super long deployments. Are you finding now that you have now that. Maybe some of these kids are are. Maybe maybe older there and you know they're out of the house. You know 'cause mine. Mine lives in a whole. She's in another country. I mean our youngest is just a few hours hours away but he was so little he thought it was just really cool to throw pine cones and say i don't know what was right and like he knows you like and you can tell there are times and things are you. Are you finding or do you think there will be a time when the children the young adults of the service members and also require some some care and because you know a lot of time time it is the the caregiver and and servicemember and the kids your other part of it but they age and they grow and they go on to have their own families but it was still very much a part of their lives yeah absolutely so <hes> you know with our resilient family course it absolutely would be open to those adult children. You're in of <hes> you know servicemembers and veterans <hes> because as i said before it you know we do talk about stressors that are specific to military or veteran in culture <hes> you know such a long deployments or things like that but yeah ultimately definitely the ability to assist those and support those <hes> older children are are so important the adult children with that being said the organization that we actually partnered with and <hes> who trained us is the home base foundation out of <hes> massachusetts so it's it's part of red sox foundation and massachusetts general so they actually actually partnered with the benson henry mind body institute to create these programs. You really cool thing about that is they are actually working to try to facilitate. Take <hes> of course similar to this geared towards children. <hes> you know that are not eighteen and over so obviously there's challenges involved there. Of course you know with. Did you know something unfortunately not that. We were in a virtual setting like we can for grownups but <hes> millions definitely a need that is out there and it's being recognized is <hes> and and we're working to support that as best as we can. That's awesome so great. Who would what would you tell someone who who is on the fence about contacting hope for the warriors because earlier. You said you know they want to one of the main. Things people can do really reach out and ask for help and now i i. That's not easy for a lot of people. I'm not probably i mean that's not a pro like i'm one of those people's like hey. I need healthier but it took a lot for me to get term almost fifty also but it's hard thing it's a hard thing to do for some people so is there. Is there something particular chiller and i know everybody's an individual and it's different but they're hoping that you would tell someone. Maybe on the sense about you know. Maybe it's not really that bad adler from my husband he he doesn't his p._t._s._d. <hes> is not he doesn't want to hurt himself or others so he's kind of at the bottom of the list for meeting so i guess i would need this but yeah right so for hope for the warriors <hes> we like. I said anybody who applies for services services will be contacted by our intake support <hes> or nader's and they do a fantastic job and so they call and get the basic information to understand their military surveys surveys and make sure that they served in the time and the era that qualifies for our services which is obviously going to be post nine eleven from there. It's a really easy z. Conversation <hes> part of it. I think the fact that we get to call over. The phone is a little bit easier. Hopefully i find it a little less intimidating because <hes> when you get to be in the comfort of your home when you make that phone call <hes> but really you know whether you think you need the assistance that i always encourage people to reach out and have that conversation russian and there's been so many times where i've had those conversations where i've had veterans or family members call looking for one service. Maybe it's financial financial assistance and you know three or four years later down the road. They're still active with our organization. They're participating in our sports in our outdoor activities you they really find that community and that belonging within <hes> their local community within our organization and so you know i always encourage everybody just to take the the time to reach out <hes> review our best we we make multiple attempts to contact everybody <hes> once they once they apply because we wanna make sure that everybody has the chance to have their knees hurt and their concerns and we do the best to help <hes> with what we can. We have also learned that you know you can be great at at a few things or you can be okay a lot of stuff and so we've really focused on our wellbeing model and we try to look at the whole individual <hes> when we're looking at a health and recovery <hes> and supporting the best that we can but with that being said we also know that if we can't assist somebody we've worked very hard to develop partnerships with over a hundred other organizations <hes> that have been saying mission is we do so we consider them our partners in michigan <hes> and so that's the really cool cool thing i like about what we're able to offer to so if somebody reaches out and it turns out that we may not be able to provide say the direct financial systems are looking for it's not i just know we make sure that we do our best or provide them with other options for support in their community. <hes> that is tailored just to them. It's not you no. It's not just a printed pre populated list that we send to everybody we make sure that we personalized that support the best we can for every family and every individual that's great. That's really wonderful. Talking our listeners get more information or sign up for your next session so it they go oh to hope for the warriors dot org they can fill out the application through the apply for services link. They'll also find all kinds of really great stuff on there about our different programs such the south and caregivers scholarship which was always popular <hes> you know as well as our outdoor activities and fourth and recreation programs and the transition in clinical health and wellness programs i mentioned earlier also and then of course we have social media so you can find us on facebook twitter and instagram <hes> as well to find out. What's you know what's been going on in our community what activities we've been holding and you know the different upcoming activities that we have in in various cities across the country retrea brian. Thank you so much for joining us this evening. This is just fantastic immigration and i honestly i had no idea i did not know about hope for the warriors and now i do and i'm really excited and i love that you all partner with over one hundred different organizations with similar mission because i think that's not only very noble cause but a very needed caused. I thank you for your you and your entire team for your hard work and dedication to make this happened for military spouses in their families around the globe so thanks for being with us tonight. Absolutely thank you for inviting me on and listeners. Thanks so much for joining us and be sure to jump in next week. 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"Hey secret history fans this is Stevenson with an episode. We think you might like learning from our mistakes can be hard learning from other people's mistakes. Well that's a a lot more fun. In cautionary tales from Pushkin Industries economist and journalist. Tim Harford retails true. Stories of unexpected outcomes from the development of tanks in modern warfare to the accidental crowning of lowland at the two thousand Seventeen Oscars. Some of these tales are tragic some comic but like the Great Fables and parables. Each has immoral. Tim Takes you aboard. Doomed airship sits you on a concert stage in front of a broken piano and puts you in a room with cult members counting down the final seconds before the end the world a cast of actors joins him and telling me stories. You'll hear the famous Alan Cumming Archie Punjabi who won an Emmy Award for the good wife and Russell tovy from the history. Boys Cautionary Tales from Pushkin Industries. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Trust be it would be a mistake not to as the night draws in and the fire blazes on behalf. We Will the children by telling them stories. The hobbit teaches them not to leave the path but my stories for the education of the GROWNUPS. GROWNUPS and my story is all true. Tim Harford Gavitt close. And listen to my cautionary tales angles along August Grist nineteen sixteen the Western Front. In the first World War the opposing armies had dug into entrenched positions stretching five five hundred miles across France and Belgium from the mountains to the sea barbed wire and machine. Guns meant that it was all but impossible for either side side to advance the Noble Cavalry long the most celebrated force in the army utterly useless. It was a murderous stalemate stalemate but a few miles behind the allied lines. Hundreds of people both civilians and British and French army officers. That brought picnics. Emma waiting patiently for a demonstration of Agra marketable invention it was pleasantly warm day and a quiet quiet spot if you tuned out the artillery of the Psalm battlefield thundering away beyond the horizon then. Another noise began to cut across that distant rumbling the Chug of a powerful engine the relentless metallic clattering of Caterpillar tracks carrying twenty eight tons of cannon armour-plating to walking pace. Everyone was talking and chatting when slowly came into sight. The first I tank I ever saw not a monster but very graceful machine with beautiful lines lozenge shaped but with too clumsy looking wheels behind it. That's major J F C fuller. He's the central figure in our story. He's thirty seven a small roll man with a neatly trimmed moustache. His hairline is retreating over his crown and beginning to March down the back of his hand. He could pass for a Buckler in a costume. Assume drama but beneath the surface of J F C fuller is an inner radicalism. Not long ago he'd been friends with the notorious. Torius occultist Alister Crowley Crowley called himself. A wizard one newspaper called him. The wickedest man in the world cavorting with self proclaimed walks is not the typical social pastime of a British army officer. But as we'll see that isn't even the strangest first thing about the life and the fate of J F C Fuller Fuller sees instantly this new machine. The tank is the solution to the basic tactical problem of the war of how to cross MoD and trenches and barbed wire against Storm of bullets. Nothing else has worked not even the novel atrocity of poison gas. But the tank will do the job. Bob And J. F C fuller concede that with absolute clarity. The tank is the unknown x in the equation of victory. All that is necessary is to get the people to see the problem but getting other people to see the problem was well. Perhaps that was the problem problem. You're listening to another cautionary tale The British officer class simply adored and more traditional way of waging war one involving stirrups and swords and big beautiful horses. He is one general explaining what he regarded as the obvious disadvantage of the tank. Thank look into the face of individuals who deal with the holes and the faces of the men who deal with the machine you will see in the letter or I might almost cooler lack of intelligence you keep up the high standard of intelligence in the man from his association with the Horse. If major fuller was going to persuade the British army to embrace the tank it would be a long struggle. At least he managed to get himself in the right place. He applied applied to transfer to the newly formed tank corps. When he got there he was given a blank sheet of paper? An order to think through what might be done with these new fangled machines. Sheen's that was the easy bit fuller soon. Formed a clear strategic vision for tank warfare. He proposed that tanks could attack the German German armies brain the string of German headquarters miles behind the front line new faster tanks were being designed they could roll all across the trenches and be on the German command posts in an hour. Full as attack would come from nowhere. `support would disrupt German road and rail title travel bad news. Confuses confusion stimulates panic. His idea was dubbed plan. Nineteen nineteen by striking suddenly at the German Command Plan. Nineteen nineteen would cause the German army to disintegrate. It would be the winning of the war in a single battle but the war ended. Anyway before fuller's astonishing idea. It could be tested. It became the most famous unused plan in military history. According to his biographer. Brian Holden read. But it's not entirely true to say that it was unused. It was used to great effect. Twenty years later by the Germans in a lightning war occupying much of Europe. In a matter of weeks J F C Fuller had invented blitzkrieg and the British army. Me had wasted his idea. If the spirit of this story feels faintly familiar there's a reason echoes hose of it have been repeated again and again since the British army stuffed fullest plans for Blitzkrieg into a desk drawer in one thousand nine hundred. Seventy the the photocopying giant Xerox established the Palo Alto Research Center or Park Xerox. Parc developed the modern personal computer an achievement. Steve -ment which Bill Gates of Microsoft and Steve Jobs of apple observed with great interest Xerox still makes photocopiers in nineteen seventy five a twenty four year. Old Engineer named Steve Sassan built the world's first digital camera the invention that was to destroy Eastman Kodak the photography giant. What's strange is that Steve Sassan was working for Kodak in Nineteen Ninety nine? Sony launched one of the world's first digital music players the memory stick Walkman. Sony was armed with the iconic Walkman brand the world's best digital engineers and Sony Music Stars from Bob Dylan to Celine Dion Ole succeeded needed in doing was paving the way for apple's ipod and back in one thousand nine hundred eighteen. The British had the best tanks in the world hold a clear vision of how to use them and in fuller one of the world's best military strategists yet by the late nineteen thirties. The the British had conceded technical and tactical superiority to Adolf Hitler's new army. When this sort of thing happens so so often you have to ask yourself? If it's really a coincidence. The tank the personal computer the digital camera the ipod. Why why do some ideas slip out of the grasp of incumbents then thrive in the hands of upstarts J F C Fuller wants began on an essay with an aphorism about pressing ahead when you in a leading position racehorses? Don't pull up the winning post. Perhaps that's true but organizations stations. Do pull up at the winning post within touching distance of victory they slow down and allow others to overtake them. A glimpse of what fuller was up against consider. Take the battle of Cambrai late in nineteen seventeen. The British army had finally decided crowded on by fuller to US four hundred tanks into lumber across German lines. The tanks could only reach a top speed of four miles per hour but that was fast enough. They swept wept aside the barbed wire shrugged off the machine gunfire and bridged the chairman trenches on chignons fi incessantly guys phone connected it. Fires added but he must meet all efforts to stop six tanks ineffective. They can't do nothing against him without exaggeration and some of the German infantry seem to be off the heads with fright it was impossible to obtain any care idea. The situation there was no chain of command and no orders. It was a stunning TAXCO success. But the success was squandered. The British High Command decided that the gap that the tanks had opened should be exploited. The cavalry a great deal of clattering galloping and shouting and a lot of our medieval able whole soldiers came charging down the street. The Germans eventually regrouped and drove back the British assault the opportunity was wasted and not just the tactical opportunity of that day at Cambrai but the strategic opportunity to reshape warfare itself some of with the infantry. Who'd been there understood what it so nearly been achieved? Some of US had lost faith in the tanks but we would be in their new that one tank think at the right time at the right place could have avoided the slaughter of two or three hundred men on that dump chilly morning fuller understood to before before the gun smoke had cleared. He was scribbling away furiously his desk at tank Corps headquarters sketching out what had been discovered. And what should be don next. Those scribblings would over the following months become plan nineteen nineteen. He understood that the success at Cambrai Cambrai was just a glimpse of what might be possible. The British High Command did not. There were several explanations. The Nation's for these missed opportunities but most of us don't get past the first and most obvious people idiots Lau can get back to some veal L. soldiering so remarked one senior officer to fuller at the end of the first world war as though defending Britain in an existential struggle. Gell had been a frivolous distraction from tending to noble horses. Bright Buckles and shiny boots a year. After the war had ended fuller's essay. Say the one that begins with a reference to racehorses won the gold medal from a prestigious think tank the Royal United Services Institute. A general burst into his office. What have you done next year? He wrote another strategically Visionary Essay. This time overturning. The ideas as of naval warfare and he won a second gold medal. It is rather amusing as a soldier having beaten the sailor at his own job. Aw Alvarez were not amused. The top brass complained fuller never received his second gold medal and was forbidden from publishing his second essay. The the army also blocked publication of full as books for several years. They were regarded as annoying and insubordinate. The most brilliant ideas from from the most brilliant strategist was seen as less an opportunity and a threat. The top man in the British Army Field Marshals Archibald Old Montgomery massing bird didn't read full as most celebrated book only annoy me he was spotted to the threat of Nazi militarization by by increasing the amount spent on Hay and other food for horses by a factor of ten cavalry officers would be provided with a second horse tank. Offices says would get a horse to as I say people idiots and it's not just the British army who seemed guilty of idiocy. When Steve Jobs visited Xerox Parc in Nineteen seventy-nine he couldn't contain himself when he saw a windows and mouse interface? For the first. This time. Why aren't you doing this? This is the greatest thing. This is revolutionary if jobs had been teleported into the British war office between the wars. He might well have said the same thing but there is something about the idiot theory. That feels too glib considered Xerox Park. Look how is it. There's a corporation could be smart enough to establish such a superb research center but then fail to take advantage was is Kodak. Really run by idiots in the nineteen seventies was Sony in the nineteen nineties now. These organizations stumbled for for a reason management theorists. Have a word for the phenomenon they call it disruption by disruption they refer to an innovation that changes the world in such a way that if successful organisations keep on doing what made them successful shorter fail but why don't organizations adapt after all they usually have the resources the experience and the reputation to Outpace any upstarts Kodak did so did Xerox. So did Sony and so did the British army but for some reason they get stuck more horses more. Hey We've already explored the idiot hypothesis but there is a different theory of what goes wrong. Hits it's a famous theory too. In management circles. It comes from Clayton Christensen of Harvard Business School more than twenty years ago. Christianson published the innovators. Innovators Dilemma told a compelling story about how new technologies creep up from below. These technologies are floored or underdeveloped up to I said they don't appeal to existing customers but they find niches and slowly they improve while incumbents and looking elsewhere and one day. The new technology is good enough to destroy the business of the old giants. Christians disruption theory is an elegant one but there are plenty of examples. That just don't fit think about why Xerox didn't exploit that cutting edge research xerox PARC. Not because the mouse and the graphic user interface or a low end competitor to the photocopier. They aren't that from a different universe. The IPOD didn't sneak up on Sony from below. Hello and Kodak not only developed the digital camera and made a good income from the digital camera patents. These organizations were slow to see the change coming thing they often saw earlier than anyone else. What lay ahead yet? They were unable to put together the right response so it was a century ago with a tank nobody could seriously call tank a low end competitor to the horse and nobody could claim that the British Army Army hadn't noticed the tank. The British were well ahead of their rivals. So we've set aside the idiot hypothesis and we've examined Clayton Christensen's his theory of disruption. It's one of the most celebrated ideas in management but if we want to understand why the British army lost its advantage contigent tank warfare cautionary tale needs a new hearing in nineteen ninety. A young economist named Rebecca Henderson published. An article let presented a different view of why it's hard to do new things in old organizations. The relevant word is the boring one organizations. What Rebecca Henderson pointed out was that these organizations don't stumble because a new technology is radical they stumble if it requires well at a different type of organization? No matter how brilliant and how new an innovation is if it slips snugly into the organizational chart that already exists the dominant organization of. Yesterday has a good chums of being the dominant organization. Shen of tomorrow. Let me give you an example. IBM The giant of old fashioned mainframe corporate computing. IBM Mrs Survivor. It was top dog from the age of the punch card machine all the way through to the nineteen eighties. Everything changed in computing over those his decades everything except the fact that IBM was in charge. This was because the organizational challenge of making and selling a room. uh-huh sized mainframe computer to a bank in the nineteen. Seventies wasn't very different from the organizational challenge of making and selling a room sized mechanical Hanikos tabulating machine to a bank in the nineteen thirties but then computers crossed a threshold. They became small enough and cheap enough. That that'd be bought by small businesses and hobbyists and even parents now. IBM faced very different challenge. They had a corporate corporate army ready to negotiate. multi-million dollar contracts with multinational procurement departments. What are they supposed to do when a computer became Amo household appliance something more like a blender? IBM Did create a strong business in personal computers. But the business was openly aggravating the rest of the organization bypassing IBM's Distribution Division and cutting IBM's components division out of the loop in the end IBM's internal politics asserted itself and the personal computer. Division was sold off. It just didn't fit and what had flummoxed IBM was not the pace of technological change it had been dealing with technological change just fine and for more than half a century. IBM's problem was that it's old organizational structures and systems had become a liability not an advantage. Rebecca Henderson calls this sort of technological change an architectural innovation and an architectural innovation Russian demands and new organizational structure which means that old organizations face an up hill struggle. Those organizations may have have changed the world but when they're forced to change themselves. That's a hard challenge before the first world. War Armies had been organized for centuries around cavalry and infantry the mounted troops offered mobility the foot soldiers this strength in numbers and the ability to dig in defensively three new technologies artillery barbed wire and the machine gun shaped shaped the battlefield of the First World War. They changed everything everything that is except the way armies were organized and that that was because the army's didn't need to change barbed wire and machine. Gums were used to reinforce. Infantry positions the big guns of the Artillery Lori could support either cavalry or infantry from a distance. The old hierarchies were preserved but then the tanks wchs clanked slowly interview and the tanks were different in some ways they were like cavalry because their strength lay partly in their ability not to move quickly in other ways they fitted with the infantry fighting alongside footsoldiers or perhaps tanks were a new kind of military capability not entirely. This isn't some weird philosophical argument like whether a tomato is a vegetable or a fruit. It's very practical. I spoke to a modern day. General about this. He told me that the tank problem has happened again and again after the tank it was the helicopter. Was it a kind of plane. Should it be run by. The air. Force is immoral navy thing or is its role to support the tanks. Now the same sort of question is a rising about drones. These seem seem like silly questions. But they aren't that fundamental from the tank to the helicopter to the drone someone in the organization organization actually needs to own the new technology otherwise it will fail so where to put the tank tank. Warfare has been grafted onto a system. It is intended to destroy one possibility. Was that because the tank offered new capabilities it should be in a new kind of unit. Infantry will become I a subsidiary and later useless arm on all ground over which tanks thanks can move. The army of the last war was pot bellied and pay brained that was J.. AFC Fuller's view. You can just imagine the reception. He got for that. The problem with setting up new specialized tank units was that those units would be seen as grab for Power Howie and resources within the Army a new tank regiment would have no allies and no historical tradition so an alternative was was to place. The tanks with cavalry regiments as the Modern Mobile Strike Force. That made some sense to and eventually tanks did end up in the old cavalry regiments but the cavalry whenever really organized around the concept of mobility. They were organized around horses. The Cavalry Officer loved his horse. His regiment was devoted to feeding and caring for the horses. Why should he welcome the usurper tank? It's easy to laugh at these hidebound officers with their shiny buttons and they're big moustaches rejecting the tank in favor of their beloved horses. But the more more you examine the difficulty of embracing architectural innovation. The more the problem looks like something really fundamental Xerox Parc developed over assembled most of the features of a user friendly personal computer that Xerox didn't have the organizational architecture to manufacture and market such a computer. Xerox did much better. When Park? Developed the laser printer the laser printer was like artillery. The machine gun PHYSI- rocks. It was an exciting new technology but it wasn't a challenge to the organization's architecture. The personal computer was like tank. Hank one challenge could easily be met. The other was insurmountable the politics of change and never easy. Since an architectural innovation requires a a painful organizational overhaul. It's a task that needs skillful. Diplomacy J F C fuller was no diplomat. He'd been annoying senior officers since before. The tank existed for example at the start of the Great War. A British general had been concerned that if the Germans invaded British counterattacks hampered by all the sheep on the roads of rural England. He told major fuller to sort it out for some sign stating sheep. It must not use this road sir. What if the less well educated sheep are unable to read them fully was just a little too phone foam of his own cleverness? Remember it was fuller who had clearly sketched out a vision for using tanks for lightning attacks on the enemy's command structure it was fuller who had worn a pair of gold medals for his strategic essays but his prize. Winning writing was also dotted with spiky critiques of the Army's commanders. Well he testified in front of a committee of senior officers. How many hours a day can attend run? Thus far we have never exceeded twenty four for fuller. This was part of the game. He reflected I knew I should create enemies yet. Without a sturdy opposition it is most host difficult to explode deep-rooted absurdities in other words full of thought that the best way to argue with a stupid person was to tell him into his face that he was stupid. The not sure he was quite right about that. People could see that full is smart creative. Perhaps even brilliant plant but nobody had a higher opinion of him that he did of himself. And let's be honest fuller. Could be pretty weird. I told you hit being a disciple of the country's most infamous magician alister Crowley Crowley was into dark rituals and sex magic he was. It's such a cult figure that his image later ended up on the cover of the Beatles. Sergeant pepper album. After a while he and fuller fell out they can still hear. Echoes of the strange spiritualist beliefs in full as arguments even when he was lecturing informal settings about the warfare with the future. I saw a fleet operating against fleet not at sea land cruisers and battleships and destroyers. My astral form follows one side and I notice that is in difficulty. It cannot see there appears. Here's an aeroplane and gives site astral form. What's he talking about yet? Despite the Hocus pocus fuller was handed a unique opportunity to advance the cause of tanks in the British army he was was appointed commander of a new experimental mechanized force in December nineteen. Twenty six. There was just one problem. He would have to step away from his single-minded focus on the tank and also take command of an infantry brigade and a garrison awesome that would mean taking responsibility for managing people as well as creating ideas in short fuller would have to get into the organizational headaches that surround any architectural innovation he balked and wrote to the head of the army demanding that these other all the duties be carried out by someone else so that he could focus on developing tactics for mechanized warfare eventually fuller threatened and to resign. The position was awarded to someone else. Fullest career never recovered architectural. Innovations can seem too much like hard work even for those most committed to seeing them succeed and as we'll see furloughs petulance was to cost him and the British army dearly. This has been a story. About how J. F C Fuller failed to persuade the British army to reorganize itself around the tank. Full is part in. It will soon be coming to a painful end but there is another side to this tragic tale. A story of how other organizations seem to find it so easy to take and use these ideas the personal computer the memory stick Walkman the Digital Camera Hamra and of course the tank and the idea of blitzkrieg if the inventors of these ideas Xerox Sony Kodak found found it so hard to use them. Why did their rivals seem to find it so easy? The answer is that it sometimes easier to to build an organization from the ground up than to disassemble and reassemble. What's already there? The treaty signed after the first world. War All all but abolished the German army. It was scarcely more than a collection of offices ahead without a body and tanks were strictly forbidden and the British army had been victorious. And it's hard to really organize a victorious organization. The Germans had no organization organization to get in the way no status quo to defend. German officers. Paid close attention to what fuller and his fellow tank enthusiasts asked were writing they also closely watched British experiments with the tank. When Adolf Hitler came to power in nineteen thirty three and dramatically expanded the German army secretly at first he encountered a German military? That had been preparing for tank warfare for fourteen years early in nineteen thirty nine. Hitler celebrated his Fiftieth Birthday. With a parade of Germany's newly reconstructed army through the streets of Berlin. One Englishman was there to see for three hours a completely mechanized and motorized army raw past the fewer. Yes J F C Fuller. was there. Indeed he was a guest of honor at Hitler's birthday celebrations after quitting the British army bitterness and frustration station it turned to fascism supporting authoritarian antisemitic parties both in Britain and overseas. And of course he felt that there was worn army that had really understood and embraced his ideas. That of Adolf Hitler After the parade Major General Fuller met Hitler himself in a receiving line at the chancellery. Uh The fuhrer grasped fuller's hand Eric Hoffer Savon Mitt. AIDEN kinser Faden. I hope you're pleased with your children. Different Your Excellency. They have grown up so quickly that I no longer recognize them. In one thousand nine hundred seventeen fuller had been planning planning the defeat of the German army in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. He was schmoozing with Adolf Hitler himself. It's an awful little detail L. of history. Oh and that piece of flattery that fuller didn't recognize the tanks anymore. It wasn't really true was it. He'd been describing. The war of the future for two decades and the war of the future was about to arrive thirteen months later. On Adolf Hitler's orders German tanks rolled through Belgium Holland France. A French pilot called Sant Exupery flew over the battlefield title field. If you recognize the name then yes it's the same guy who wrote the little prince sounds exupery. Describe what happened to the French. French and British armies czyz Hamad Lados bling accountable consequences. Ease Taylor crazy. have blitzed anatomy Ms Stihler intact but he does cease to be an will once. It was an organism nauseous meal. Niu New quantity of disconnected cells. COMPARE THAT TO J F C fuller explanation without an active and directive brain. An army is reduced to a mob. Germany defeated France Belgium and the Netherlands Evelyn's and just forty six days sending their battered British allies scrambling back across the English Channel. Blitzkrieg had worked exactly as fuller had described. His superiors may not have wanted to listen Jay. AFC Fuller that brilliant bitter strange little man seen it all coming. You've been listening to cautionary tales and if you want to know more about what I think about. New Technologies a have witnessed entire book fifty inventions that shaped the modern economy. You might like it. Cautionary Tales is written and presented by me. Tim Tim Halford. Our producers are Ryan Dilly and Marilyn Rust. The sound design and mixer was Pascal Wise. who also composed the amazing music? Starring in this season are Allen. Coming Archie penjab Toby Stevens and Russell tovy alongside. Enzo Chilean at Gordon. Melanie Gutteridge Messiah Monroe and Rufus right and introducing Malcolm blackmail. Thanks to the team. At Pushkin Industry's Julia Baton Have Fain Mia Lebel Collie me Jacob Weisberg and of course the mighty Malcolm Rodwell and thanks to my colleagues at the Financial Times.
Target USA -- Episode 207: Cyber Trouble in 2020
"From podcast one coming up in this episode of target USA The deepening cyber problems the US US and its allies are experiencing and so one night around midnight midnight. Shouldn't tent. And I and I had these cyber professionals from eight different countries in there and I asked him I said Hey thank you in. This room has never had the Chinese in your networks on inviting. Everybody just Kinda looked around as I guess what I thought okay. Who in this room is never had the Russians uninvited uninvited in your networks? No hands was like what I thought I said. Hey we have the same adversary deal with the same problem sets in this domain yet. We don't have as close a partnership is I think we could. That's Command Sergeant Major William Reinhardt from. US Army South. Have you ever thought about whether the US and its allies in the western hemisphere work together against adversaries in the cyber realm bike Russia and China. Well there's a lot of work that needs to be done to make the situation better and reinhard talks about it on this episode of target. USA He national security podcast from WTO NOT OATH in Washington. DC THIS IS TARGET USA. Russia could render huge arm to this country North Korea's the secret missile capable of reaching the whole of the United States Dangerous Terrorist D. C. is repeatedly mentioned as some place they would like to see an attack cyber criminals decryption encryption. Success America has a target on its back and on this program. We investigate the threats. The people behind them the agency's fighting them and the impact on you. This is target. USA The national security podcast. Aw I'm Jay Jay Green House. This happened to you. Roy Moore Mr War. This is Jerry. A healing with People Power Executive Placement Service out of New York. I was just calling to see if you were happy with your work with the work. Yes it's about the money on foreign spies or not just walking the streets here in Washington. They're in your inbox locks looking for people with classified and sensitive information. Social Media's music easier for them to find Brian Dugan assistant special agent in charge of counterintelligence honor intelligence at the Washington field office of the FBI. Lincoln's one example People put out there what they did in a prior life. And here's the problem to any any good intelligence service. Those are going to be clues to find people that used to have a government job or access to clearance at one time or another. and WHO's most likely to be recruited company who gets stuck with high bills who has a lifestyle they can't sustain and then you combine that with somebody who does not believe their careers. Wears gone the right way. Maybe they feel like they've been undervalued in the system Philip mudd former deputy director of the National Security Division at the FBI. So as a record number of American citizens retire their options are wide open and Washington. Spies know that the humans and the artificial ones as well hello. Jj How are you today. I want to be your friend. There are sophisticated organizations out there that can figure out how to contact you. Sometimes leaving computerized voice. Messages suggests suggests that some fall for espionage in Washington has not been confined to human spying retired. CIA clandestine officer. Mark Kelton in two thousand fifteen fifteen Chinese intelligence. Cyber operators stole sensitive personnel information from the Office of Personnel Management Opium. So here's the simple reality. Not only. They're humans on the streets of Washington trying to recruit Americans to become spies but there are technological components and people working remotely as was simulated in this. FBI video called company man as in China. Be laughing when you hear the salary. Ah There's no way that I can move to China. Think of it as a vacation. The simple warning from the FBI. Think of the other kind of vacation and don't do it. Chinese and Russian intelligence or coming hard after US and its allies and they're coming fast senior. US officials visited London not too long ago with a last minute plea asking them not to allow hallway technologies to supply equipment for its I five G. broadband networks. They were warning that. US intelligence sharing could be at risk. Deputy National Security Adviser Matthew Pottenger singer and other officials from the State Department argued that there's no way the. US can mitigate those security risk from such network and we're told they took a dossier ASEAN of evidence with them detailing the connections between hallway and Chinese intelligence. We don't know what was in that dossier but we do know the the. US is very concerned that once actors that they suspect may be bad in the wild way network get into the US networks. There could be serious national security cured problems. That's part of an effort that's going on on the diplomatic level but there was also a military level. And it's happening on many levels within the military military one of them is running through command. Sergeant Major William Reinhardt of US army south WHO's dealing with US allies in the military in the western Western Hemisphere. So in the last probably the past two years As I came on board with his army south the journal Alter that hired me did so because of my background in the cyber or cyberworld and he asked asked him because my position has typically been held by you know an infantryman or Cav scout and throughout the history of. US Army army south as far back. As when I was in Panama and I asked him. Why did you hire reserve? He said I heard you. Because you you understand this cyber thing and and all the partners down there wanNA know about this cyber and they want help and he says I'm infantryman I can. I can do that. I can answer all those questions. I can't answer all those questions about cyber and need guys that. Can I can just pitch over you. You answer the Question House. Okay Acer. I'll do it for you and so here. We are two years later. And we got a new commander Major General. Dan Walrath came on board in July and he picked up. Right where we were you know as Major General Mark Stammer left and I'll tell you it's been a fantastic ride. But but he was right there. Cyber is is huge. You know and I had another journal Nature that I worked for in the past And he used to always say hey. Hey there's this thing called the Internet. Millions of people who are on it more everyday need to get on board and so our partner certainly had over the last half decade or in some cases a little bit longer They have certainly gone down this road to build their cyber capabilities and capacities in defense of their nations. So what are the challenges to shared interoperability in the western hemisphere so in areas of Say for cyber. It's part of it it is we spend more time looking at the cyber security aspect Defensive Cyber and I don't really spend a Lotta time we don't have a lot of time with them with them on offensive. Cyber Offensive Cyber is very touchy subject deals with sovereignty of her country are stacey grids. Nobody wants to talk about you. Know Offensive Cyber Operations. Yeah it's a touchy area. And so we don't and he was army south as we engage with our partners and part of it is just helping pointing them in the right direction. Because if you think about it Cybersecurity you know all the a lot of the cyber training you know this. Internet technology training is commercially available. It's taught you can teach yourself online in in your in your own home. You know you got kids in middle school that are that are learning how how to Code. You've got high school students. That are already a year into their stem degree. You know for their undergraduate before they even graduate graduate high school because they they've grown up with this technology and so our partners they recognize that they understand. Hey there's there's things that we can do together to strengthen the security defenses. You know the Cyprus tree defensive of of the Western Hemisphere we can. We can work together and I'll tell you it was. It was interesting about almost two years ago. When I first came into the job we had an exercise called panamax big exercise about defending the Panama Canal? Nearly Twenty countries come together. During this exercise they'll come to San Antonio and we go out in the field and we we'd do wargames about fen panel canal against an adversary and so eight of the country sent Some of their cyber professionals officials and we wanted to work into the exercise a cyber defence piece to it and so one night around midnight midnight. It shouldn't this tent and I had these cyber professionals from eight different countries in there and I asked him I said Hey who in. This room has never had the Chinese and in your network on inviting. Everybody just kind of looked around. I guess what I thought. Okay who in this room has never had the Russians and uninvited in your networks. No engine was like what I thought I said. Hey We have the same adversary Surrey. We deal with the same problem sets in this domain yet. We don't have as close a partnership as I think we we could and there are areas that we can work together particularly in cybersecurity and cyber defense critical you know. Building infrastructure restructured as defendable Helping each other shoulder to shoulder in this domain just like we stand shoulder to shoulder in the land domain the air domain and maritime domain. And so they want the one of the partner nations. He made a comment. He said. Sort of major what. You're saying revolutionary. Hey Man we can't. We can't say that word in here. We're not going to say that word but but you're right. It's just not spoken us. Oh you try to change the dialogue a little bit. There's things that we can do it. When cyber stood up that word it was so scary a lot of people because for a long time I know a lot of your You know the US a lot of the five partners that was very classified area and ground. Be In you know because we were trying to develop this. This is defense these offenses capability and and and as we do we try to get ahead of our adversaries you know. Stay in front of them and so But there's there's so much we can do together. It's not classified so give us a few examples briefly. Some of those things you can do. That aren't classified that you can give us a top of your head so Particularly training you know the US Army Cyber Center of excellence. Four Gordon Georgia inside. Had their cyber school excuse me inside their signal school they have to cyber security courses that that do particularly strictly with just cybersecurity and infrastructure. And how it how you develop good habits and it's and it's available able to international students and so I went to the signal school and I asked to combat in his sore major. I said hey you know I know you have a pretty robust international student population I think at the time they had maybe fifty six international students. I said how many of those students are from the Western Hemisphere. How many of them? I'm for central or South America. Lieutenant or major none of them not one not one student in the cybersecurity courses horses that the signal school. We're leading American descent. They were all Middle Eastern European. Okay and so I went back comments like hey doors are open. You know through the I met you know programs do the MC's and There's funding available and we can help our partners and offer them seats in classes. And so we've done that The another instance is there's a course in San Antonio Texas at the Inner American Air Force Academy also known as I am an EPA has two courses taught in Spanish that are that deals L. strictly in Cybersecurity as defense areas and those are also courses. That is new to the you know the the military And and the program and so we've offered that down to our our partners and they've taken advantage of that and I can tell you one of the One of our biggest partners in region Brazil and Colombia. I mean you know the two most park most capable military's down here in this area but I'll tell you Peru and Argentina and Chile. They're all they're all rapidly building their capabilities. And and we're we're doing everything we can to help them with that or anything that I haven't spoken to you about today that you want to speak about briefly before we show. I appreciate the opportunity to sit down with you and talk about this and I'll tell you it's been a spin an incredible ride for me You army south particularly working with our neighbors in central and south. America and Caribbean nations All of them we share the same challenges Sometimes just on a different scale and and and what we've found out what we've found what we find is we can certainly work. These problems sets a lot better if we do it together versus UH letting them try to do it on their own and and the Chinese are down in the AOR They're working really hard to to fill gaps it that their our partnership perceive or see actually have and so. It's important that we stay engaged with our partners because of the presence of the Chinese in South America Central America and the Caribbean I believe in I believe the Southcom and army south You know we can show that it's a lot greater than most people probably think The influences I mean it's just incredible predatory toward lending practices and donations of equipment. All comes with ties or partner. Not Nited states usually doesn't have a tie. We're we're neighbors and we're friends to the end. Thank you very much for that command. Sergeant major I appreciate your time. Thank you for your time appreciate you. That was command sergeant. Major William Reinhardt from US army south to put this whole thing into perspective the US is the number one target espionage and cyber in the world and its adversaries are using every opportunity to come after the US February Second Nineteen ninety-three the three Capitol Hill hearing room before the Senate Intelligence Committee a little more than three years after the Berlin Wall fell and the USSR or crumbled Jim Woolsey being confirmed as the CIA director issued a disturbing prophecy. Yes we have slain a large dragon but we live now now in jungle filled with a bewildering variety of poisonous snakes and in many ways the dragon was easier to keep track of. He was warning about the coming explosion. The threats facing the US he said for now. At least the cataclysmic risk full scale nuclear war has receded beyond the horizon But the risk in the shadow of a news great power competition has emerged once again and with it an espionage threat threat the world has never seen before on any given day there are two to three million people worldwide engaged in espionage Gra Simmons former former. Dia Counterintelligence branch teeth. He's not alone you know. We're talking about three or four million former. CIA covert operative Robert Bayer in their number one target. The numbers started in the United States. Clearly marked Kelton retired officer who worked clandestinely behind find the Iron Curtain while Russian intelligence is a critical threat. They are not leading this espionage. Charge of the millions science out here around the world involved in espionage happened number worked for China. Chris Simmons again and if you WanNa hear it from someone currently involved in the fight China by far I think is our preeminent counter-intelligence Threat Pete Lamp Special Agent at The Washington Field Office of the the FBI. So what exactly is everybody after. Here's Mark Kelton again. Adversary of trying to define the government secrets but it goes well beyond that. How far beyond Ondon does it go? We'll examine it in our next episode of target. USA In the meantime if you have any questions or comments about her program sent me an email email at J. Green at WTO P DOT com. That's the letter j the Color Green One word at Whiskey Tango Oscar Papa J. Jay Green at W. T. P. dot com also. Follow us on twitter at T- USA podcast. That's at Tango Uniform Sierra Alpha for podcast. Also if you're interested in more national and international security news sign up for my newsletter inside the skiff at W. T. O. P. dot com flesh. Alerts again thank you for listening. 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Episode 124 Back Across the Delaware
"Hello thank you for joining the American Revolution Today. Episode one twenty four back across the Delaware so last week as the battle of Trenton came to an end by mid morning on December. Twenty six seventeen seventy six. The Americans held the town and the few remaining meaning enemy soldiers scattered amazingly the American suffered no combat deaths and only five wounded however several men later died I from the horrific march through the storm the night before there are several accounts of deaths later that night and in the following day's from exhaustion exposure Asia and hypothermia despite the victory Washington could not simply sit back and enjoy the moment there were still thousands of Haitians under Colonel Uh-huh Car-o-van done up to his South in Mount Holly along with more Hessian and British regiments to his north in Princeton around four or five hundred Hutchins at Trenton had escaped along with many Hessian women and children camp followers most of these endured a ten mile forced march to Princeton. Of course as word reached these other regiments. There was always a chance of counterattack. Washington deployed some companies to March north or South looking for Haitians who had fled the field of battle. They also searched buildings in town looking for enemies. Still Hiding General Washington along with General Greene visited the dying Hessian commander Colonel Role at the Methodist Church after his death colonel raw would take the primary Mary blame for the days loss. British leader's noted his failure to build defensive entrenchments around town or to send out sufficient patrols to detect the Hetemi as they crossed the river. But of course hindsight is twenty twenty most of the other outpost commanders had behaved similarly to roll before the attack as Carl role lay dying. The continentals collected prisoners and secured the town. The dead were looted of anything of value. The capture capture of clothing equipment and cannons all added to the American victory. The Hessian prisoners had been told to expect to be killed if they were captured. The frightened prisoners were relieved to be treated reasonably well somehow equipment taken from them such as their knapsacks the Hessian brass helmets limits were also highly prized by the victors. The hashes will be marched back to the river and transported on the same boats. Used by the continentals at McKie's and Johnson's ferry where they were moved to Pennsylvania out earlier in the day a few of the Hash and equipment were actually crossed at the closer sir. Trenton ferry. That's where General Ewing had been unable to cross the night before but some of the same problems that prevented general ewing from crossing continued into the next day and as whether conditioned worsened a little again. The continentals marched most of the prisoners. Back to McCarthy's and Johnson's since vary where they still had those larcher Durham boats for transportation once in Pennsylvania. The prisoners spent a few days with the army Washington. Ten then move them to Philadelphia where he ordered. The officers separated from the men. Both were treated reasonably well but he wanted the enlisted men to be taught about the ideals of liberty so that if returned these ideals might spread through the Hessian ranks eventually the prisoners would be transported to through the western part of Pennsylvania Maryland and Virginia. There many of them lived on parole among German speaking colonists most of them were able to who live and work in the communities will certain restrictions on how far they can travel and with nightly curfews. Many of the soldiers enjoyed their new condition so much coach that they opted to stay in America after the war there were forty eight wounded Hessian officers and men including the injured commander Colonel Role received parole. This meant that they were left in Trenton under the promise that they would not take up arms again and less exchanged for American prisoners. However the reality was most of these wounded were so severely wounded that they would not arrive a trip back to Pennsylvania would almost certainly kill them? Colonel Role as I said died that evening but one young lieutenant with a spinal injury remained in Trenton convalescing for several months Washington conferred with his generals about whether they should continue their attack by taking the fight to Princeton or Mt Holly or whether it would be better to take the win and simply retreat back to Pennsylvania before the enemy could counterattack. Washington's initial plan had been to meet up with the forces under Colonel John Cadwalader and General James Ewing who they said were supposed to have crossed further down river the same night that Washington Cross and they were to attack the three thousand British and Hessian soldiers at Mt Holly but since neither of those crossings had been successful Washington found himself on his own the Americans of course course were exhausted many were suffering from hypothermia and frostbite as well the weather was also still a mix of snow and freezing rain the made any movement on the roads miserable and would likely increase the deaths related to hypothermia. It did not help that. The soldiers had also so discovered several barrels of rum in town and many of them got roaring drunk before the officers discovered what they had done. The American still had the nine eight hundred Hessian prisoners to control as well at least part of the army would have to remove the prisoners to Pennsylvania. Even if the rest decided to engage the enemy the at another location or stayed in Trenton to await a counterattack. If the continentals moved against the enemy at Mt Holly they would be attacking a force. Yes that was larger than they were the force in Mount. Holly was probably about twice as large as the Trenton garrison and also the attackers would no longer have the element of of surprise in the end. Washington decided to take their prisoners and captured booty and pull everyone back to Pennsylvania. The army spent the rest of the day at another sleepless night. Attempting to recross the Delaware River. The snow had turned back to rain during the day making travel on the roads into a muddy mess later in the day everything began to refrees making the wet soldiers even more miserable despite the continuing problems with ice the river the army spent much of the evening and night moving everything back to Pennsylvania many officers and men had been up for three straight eight days and nights running on little more than adrenaline as I said many suffered from frostbite hypothermia and other illnesses brought on as the result of being cold wet Hungary and sleep deprived. The river was even icier than the night before and the army as I said had to move the nine hundred prisoners as well as six additional cannon and numerous captured horses and other equipment in addition to everything they had brought over the first time. Many soldiers reported tried hi to walk across the ice to reach the boats only to have it break and have them fall into the river. There were no reports of drowning. But of course getting getting soaking wet in freezing water could have very real consequences for your health even so the men were booed by their win and this was the most hard the core of the larger army that had been dwindling down over the prior few months then is one example during the battle a gun carriage. I mentioned had broken meeting that the Canon no longer had wheels and could not be moved general. Knox had ordered the guns spiked and abandoned as part of their retreat. One one sergeant refuse to do so he got four other soldiers to help him drag the Canon as deadweight across the ground for miles back to the river. The cannon was probably like two thousand pounds dragging the weapon was slow going so slow that even the rearguard past them General Knox locks once again wrote up and told them to abandon the gun and get to the river at one point. The team thought a party of British light horse was approaching them although it turned doubt fortunately for them to be a group of quakers they eventually got the gun to the river and into a boat General Knox wrote up and ask them where the Scud had come from from when the men told him it was the one he had ordered abandoned at Trenton he prays the men for their initiative in bringing back anyway at great risk to themselves. So these are the kind of self motivated enthusiastic. Hardworking men were talking about with great effort by the morning of December twenty seventh the day after after the battle. The bulk of the army equipment and prisoners were all safely back in Pennsylvania on the twenty seventh general Washington had lunch with some of the captured Hessian officers. They discussed the battle and what the Hashes had done wrong. By all accounts it was a polite cordial and friendly meeting between professional officers. General Washington even granted Hessian Lieutenant Witter Halt Parole to return to Trenton and collect some personal property that he had left behind winner. Holt returned to Trenton collected his items and then return to the American lines to begin his imprisonment. Such was the level of trust and honor between officers Washington however was not quite ready to declare victory and settled into winter quarters on the afternoon of the twenty seventh. He held another council of war to discuss the possibility of future operations to follow up on their success. US As the council met a courier arrived with news remember Colonel Cadwalader who was supposed to cross the Delaware the same night as Washington Washington but further down river. Well he had failed to cross that night or the next day but on the morning of the twenty seventh his men mostly Pennsylvania Slovenia associated which are local militia had managed to get eighteen hundred men across the river and were near Burlington New Jersey. They had gotten word. That Washington had reached Trenton. And were all the more motivated to participate in the attack and join him by the time they learned that afternoon that Washington forces had retreated back to Pennsylvania. They decided after some debate to proceed forward anyway so while Washington was retreating another army he was advancing with communication delays leading to all this confusion out the associated who are now a New Jersey. Found the Hashes. Mostly those under Colonel Donovan Donna in disarray. It turned out that Vandana was so shaken when he got news of Trenton that he immediately retreated north toward Princeton even abandoned some of his own sick and wounded to speed up the retreat but according to at least one source did not abandon the hundred and fifty wagons full of plunder under that. His army had taken that evening scouts road. As far as Allentown New Jersey. A small town east of Trenton. Where Colonel Von Don Obsessions and had spent the previous night? They learned fun done. I've had divided his retreating force moving to both Princeton and Brunswick with the heavens in full full retreat and with the associated now across the river Washington believe they could force all enemy forces out of the area and retake West Jersey. Some of Washington's generals in Pennsylvania thought this was madness. The continental army was still sick and exhausted from its first raid. They were not ready to launch another rate. Some of the men had not even made it back to their camps until noon that day even healthy men needed time to sleep eat and and dry out also. The British could very likely be sending reinforcements from New York to crush whatever resistance. They found that was why they had had cross back into Pennsylvania in the first place. If the British one victory in the days following their loss of Trenton the British would then change the narrative back. ACT Two at inevitable British victory in the war after considerable discussion. The consensus developed that the army had to attempt a second crossing and and fight the enemy again. It appeared that the enemy at least for the moment was disorganized at inclined to retreat. If the continentals could follow one victory with another they could prove that the rate on Trenton was not a little fluke on a small outpost. Further the Trenton victory would encourage thousands of militia Russia to get involved with the renewed winter campaign. Washington said L. Orders the next morning December. Twenty eighth that the army would once again crossed the Delaware on December. Twenty ninth and engaged the enemy. He also sent riders through New Jersey and Connecticut calling on militia to turn out and support support the new continental offensive the continental army would return to Trenton and continue. It's winter campaign. The first step in in any offensive would be to cross the Delaware River again. This time the army would be bringing even more men and equipment than the first time. Fortunately they were not tied to the strike deadline of getting everyone over in one night. Although part of this second crossing did take place at night and continued well into the following day. The weather had gotten even colder in the day. Since the first crossing making the river ice and creating even greater difficulty the Americans also had to contend with about six inches of snow which fell during the crossing the ice on the river as I said had gotten worse but with time the army found its way across often breaking through the ice by hand as it made its way across the river. The army was also able to a US. More ferries and already had a large contingent of the Pennsylvania associated in New Jersey under the command of Colonel John Cadwalader and continental dot net. General Thomas Mifflin uncharacteristically. The continentals at this time did have sufficient arms and ammunition for a new campaign. They we also had received shipments of tents and blankets to replace those lost during the retreat from Fort Lee but a new difficulty arose during the crossing. The the continental army ran out of food. Part of the problem was that soldiers were not allowed to forage and simply take food from the local citizens at gunpoint and the local farmers were unwilling to sell food for continental dollars which were simply pieces of paper which were worth less and less every day. The plano for the lack of food fell mostly unimagined named carpenter. Warton a Philadelphia businessman who had served as deputy commissary massery general. He has been accused of incompetence and corruption and it does seem that this member of the powerful Philadelphia family of Warton's written did seem more concerned that he and his friend profited from the war contracts then in actually supporting the war generally a few months after these events wharton would be charged with treason and forced to resign his post. But I wouldn't read too much into the treason charge as I said. He came from from a quaker family that got into trouble for refusing to sign parole agreements and were generally expelled from Philadelphia so these treason charges may have. I've been really less than th Uzi gastric endorsement of the continental. 'cause but in any event finding food for the army without any money you to pay for it was a pretty difficult and thankless task at the time that said. I WOULD NOT EXACTLY PUT MR Warren among the most dedicated of Patriots. It's for the moment. Washington had to halt the crossing temporarily on December thirtieth to keep part of his force in Pennsylvania. He absolutely absolutely needed the food before they could be deployed to the field. After Washington shot off a letter to Robert Morris in Philadelphia Morris was able to get Worton to begin moving food supplies to the army in the field at least enough to keep them from starving for a few days with the food crisis resolved Washington Washington now faced a second crisis. Many soldiers felt unappreciated. The food shortage was only one. Recent example of how the civilian population population simply refused to supply the army with any adequate supplies of food clothing and shelter. Despite the recent victory at Trenton. Many of the men in the continental army who had not yet deserted remain there because they felt honor bound to serve out their enlistment which ended on December thirty. I just a day or two away when that time came they plan to go home. Among these men were glover's New England mariners who we've been critical to the multiple river crossings for the army. Most of the men wanted to go join privateer ships where they continue to support the war effort but it also collect money prizes for captured property other soldiers simply and had enough misery. They had done their part. It was time for someone someone else to step up and replace them. Recruiters were having better luck now. Enlisting new soldiers faced on the victory at Trenton others would take up the burden of service but these new recruits would not arrive for at least several weeks and they will be raw inexperienced soldiers despite embarking taking on this new campaign into New Jersey. The officers could not convince most of the men to remain in the field and for that matter. Many of the junior officers others were ready to go home as well. Many of the militia had been convinced to participate in the campaign with a promise of ten dollars hard money. This was not continental paper. We're talking real gold and silver privates. Were normally pay just over six dollars a month usually in paper her and that's if they received at at all so ten dollars was not a huge sum. Although Washington founded extravagant he needed to keep his army in the field for a few more weeks or there will be no way to run a winter campaign so Washington assembled his soldiers who enlists were about to expire and personally made them an offer of a ten dollar bounty for anyone who remained for just a few more weeks. Not a single man stepped forward to take Kim up on the offer undeterred. Washington tried to appeal to their sense of duty. He told them my brave fellows. You have done all I asked you to do and more than can be reasonably expected but your country is at stake your wives your houses news and all that you hold dear you have worn yourselves out with fatigues and hardships but we know not how to spare you. If you will consent sent to stay one month longer you will render that service to the cause of liberty and to your country which you probably can never do. Under any other circumstances with those words. Almost every man stepped forward to volunteer to continue the fight. No amount of money could convince. It's them to fight. But the fact that their commander absolutely needed them to continue the cause did convince them moved by their agreement. Washington Washington did not require any of them to sign their extended enlistment S- instead they would be held accountable by their honor to the service Washington then faced another problem. He did not have any hard money to pay the bounties that he had just promised these brave men once again Washington turned to Robert Morris. Explain the situation and pleaded with him to come up with money by any means necessary Morris himself a wealthy merchant agent had already turned over all of his hard currency to the 'cause he had to turn to a wealthy quaker friend. According to legend the friend ask ask what security he had that Morris would repay the loan Loris replied that he only had his word and his honor in other words he had to promised to repay the loan from his personal funds. Not that of the government with that. The quaker went to his backyard and dug up his hidden chest chest of coins. That will be used to keep the continental army in the field with the food. Money and reenlistment issues resolved at least for the moment moment the continental army with its militia. Auxiliaries was once again ready for battle in New Jersey. They knew they would continue to confront the British Army Army. But we're not exactly sure what the British would do next next week. The New Jersey campaign continues with the second battle of Trenton. Hi thanks for joining the American Revolution. PODCAST after show. I had a great time at History Camp Virginia Jinyu last weekend I got to present on the politics of independence as well as hang out with Christian. SPAGNA THE AUTHOR OF A Joseph Warren biography the first martyr and gave devil of the Eighth Virginia blog. I also got to meet some other history podcasters like Susan Cherry Stevenson of American epistles. I also appreciate the many kind words that fans of the show gave me during the weekend. It's really really nice to meet you in person and it really heartens me to hear from people who are enjoying this project. As I mentioned last week I'm also working with the folks at history camp to bring the first history camp to Philadelphia on May second twenty twenty also. The next history can't Boston will take replace on March fourteenth so if anyone's interested in presenting or just attending either of these history camps please visit history camp dot org for for more details. This week we heard about Washington's decisions in the aftermath of the Trenton victory. I often wonder if Washington even expected expected to be alive at this point. Although he never really expressed any defeatism he knew that the Trenton attack was a very high-risk action and he took a prominent role in its execution exposing himself to enemy fire. He must have at least known that he stood a good chance of being killed. Especially if the attack failed and expect he would have preferred death to having to surrender his army in defeat so having proven successful successful Washington really did not seem to have much of a plan about what to do next his decision to retreat back to Pennsylvania and then moved back to New Jersey again. A couple of days later seems to indicate that his communications between himself and Colonel Cadwalader Army a few miles to the south also seems almost slapstick as one did not seem to know what the other was doing. CADWALADER men crossed into New Jersey thinking that Washington Shen was at Trenton while Washington crossing back into Pennsylvania thinking cadwalader. was there a couple of walkie. Talkies would have made the whole thing so much simpler. You're that said it certainly worked out for the best. If cadwalader had not crossed into New Jersey as Washington was returning Washington might have been and less inclined to reverse his decision about leaving New Jersey in the first place he might of state and Pennsylvania and let Cornwallis reoccupy New Jersey. What became came an entire campaign could have been just a mere two day raid? Of course that campaign as I've said really changed the course of the war I've already recommended recommended a couple of books about this crucial campaign and today I want to recommend another one the winter soldier's by Richard Ketchum. This book is a classic first published in Nineteen Seventy three. It covers the events leading up to the ten crucial days between Washington's crossing and the battle of Princeton and then goes into great detail about those events and over four hundred pages not counting notes and index. It gets into plenty of detail out some have criticized catchers writing as being a bit dry and flat but I find it rather straightforward a big focus is the struggle of the average soldier not only against the enemy but more often against the elements. The perspective of the everyday soldier in the field is is an interesting one for me. Catch him was a prolific writer with at least half a dozen books on the American Revolution alone he sadly passed away in two thousand twelve winter. Soldiers is one of his earlier books and I think well worth reading for my online recommendation. This week I want to recommend. Men Gave Neville's eighth Virginia blog. Gabe explores the revolution through the eyes of the Eighth Virginia Regiment which was raised in the counties of in Western Virginia. They fought some key battles of the war and many of the members settled western lands. That helped the young country to grow after the War Gabes well researched and very detailed blog articles help provide a look at the revolution from a different perspective. So if you WANNA take a look go to eighth. Virginia Dot Com. That's the number. Eight T H VIRGINIA DOT COM also put a link on my website at Amro podcast dot com. Well that's all for this week. I hope you will join me again next week. For another American Revolution podcast.
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Thank you for being with us today. Fell as a thousand reasons why this game resonates around the country and even around the world soldiers and a Navy folks. I one of the reasons is that these these kids they not only serve their schools and programs. But they're going to serve their country chapter it's done. We are talking about a lot at stake do you. Maybe as dominated in recent years since two thousand to two thousand fifteen navy wins but army has won. The last three years of navy wins the commander. In chief. Trophy goes goes to Annapolis in Kenya Motto Numata. Low Low becomes a winningest coach in this rivalry. If army wins split we got a three way split with the Service Academies Yup goes to West Point Fellas. Can they go for foreign. What's IT GONNA take for army which is a ten and a half point underdog to win this game? I think they can go over four in a row but I don't think they listen armies. There's there's struggling to see so you would think okay they. They won't win this game but in navies having a really good season army they had a five game losing jail at one point they lost five in a row but listen coach monkey that step tremendous staff. They're going to get these guys ready ready for this game because this is the game. This is one of those gains. We throw all the stats. You throw throw away all the statistics and everything the records. You don't care about that because it's just something something about seeing the other team across the field from you and I was going to bring out the best and we talk about the three game win streak for army before that of his fourteen game win streak for Navy Navy Navy typically has the upper hand last couple of years last three wins by the way for army decided by seven points. Yeah so it's always a good game. It's always competitive. We we talk about during the season when you have to play triple option teams it stinks. You hate it right. This is how they live those. You're going to tune in. And you're gonNA literally throwback to nineteen forties football ball which is amazing and the pageantry of this whole day tomorrow. We'll be amazing. Yeah these two teams are a mirror. Image of each other's having been at navy last week I can tell you navy. Maybe these seniors they want nothing more to leave with at least one win against army. Let's go to some uniforms. Here are going to cool things here every year army navy bring bring it. I mean Army right there it looks army ask you know what I mean. Get Their Forest Green Green Look Navy. That's just go back to this back here. Yeah which which is like you know. That's my guy. Roger Staubach favorite it vantage navy managed to jail for drop the MIC with those hamlets. Kind of like that old school army army lock. Yeah that's apprising some ageism bad. We'll house do you. You have to deal. That's why navy's attended a half point favorite because uniform. Because I'm telling you guys are with Navy I elect navy. Let's take a look at our blimpworthy player. Navy quarterback Malcolm Perry presented by Goodyear. Now compare leads. All AW BS quarterbacks in rushing one hundred thirty six point four yards rushing per game needs just sixty nine yards. Set the navy all time record for total offense in a season currently held by Woolworth Twenty Sixteen fellas defining moment from out compared. I don't know if you remember this. When he's sixteen was a freshman he was actually in the stands? Like eating liquorice liquorice licorice you. He was sick he'd played in a JV game. There are injuries on the navy team. He gets pulled out of the stands ends up playing in the game. The third quarter all the fourth year he becomes about Jalen hurts like last year. The movie. Yeah that should be a move exact. Let's let's talk about the College Football playoff defining moments for those four teams David. How about some Lsu you know listen? We needed offense was going to be new and it was going to be more innovative. least we heard about it all all off season. Well you gotTa Show Me First Game Austin Game Day. They're big time moment. Joe Boroughs throwing the ball all over the yard and guess what big Tom on third and seventeen late in the game. Most formative drills Dez. You run the ball especially Lsu by the way run the ball. Run the ball. Run the ball. Joe Bro gets pressured they blitz right and his face. He delivers that strike and then going on by the way when they beat Alabama. I think that moment proved to everybody on the team. Not Joe Borough. Everybody was like wait a minute riddick. We finally beat them. Do that had been tormenting US absolutely straight tormenting. Yeah beat them. Took care of business and it was good to go to win that game and Tuscaloosa was a straight dog dogfighting. They handle their business. But how about Ohio. State the Buckeyes. They would just steamrolling people all season long but then it had a home. Game Against Penn State Penn state starting quarterback. Sean Clifford get hurt. We'll let us came in the game. The third quarter put seventeen points up in the shoe on the Buckeyes. I was their game. They will do. The whole crowd was silent. That's when the Buckeyes had to hunker down. Forget early in the game to Justin feels fumbled. The ball can take a tumble but they hunkered down. They get focused and they came back a okay beat Penn State by eleven points. I thought that was a defining moment in number three Clemson. They're defining moment everybody know they have pretty much. What do you call it type schedule when you play like a bunch of this week teams cupcake will? ACC Today played North Carolina North Carolina that only that pushed washed the Tigers to the brink in almost won that game fell two point conversion they didn't convert and ended up losing by one point. I thought that game was only league. Game that clips and seem to be tested their season and they think you don't their way to win. He knows the. That's the two point two point conversion right there. That's the season and that was it was a rap actually wanted to ask Mac Mac Brownback. Why did you guys go for the triple object? You you're not triple the team trying to catch them off. Guard gave you Oklahoma. It hasn't had a ton of moments because they've curbstone everybody. They've played three seasons. I think Oklahoma's a moment was was the Baylor game. It was the down by twenty-five like guess. What season's over you're done you're going home? You're not going to the College Football playoff or Baylor. Fumbles taking advantage of the taking advantage of the mole. Jalen hurts run the ball mostly doing some damage to the air back to dominate the time of possession Shen and find a way to win that game at Baylor obviously they go on and beat Baylor again in the big ten championship or big twelve championship game but that was the moment right there where it was either Tom to packers Asia. Great Great Win for the soon as they didn't foe there tint like you said we were there for that one too. was there for that too. Connector a one more in for number one our. We're busy no you. January twenty eight twenty. Nine hundred didn't even happen during the season defining moment okay. That was the day they formally announced the Joe Brady was coming to Lsu passing game coordinator later. And who does he coach. Joe Borough Yeah Joe. Boroughs swept the college football. Wards last night coming up we take a look at the transformation from average Joe. So the likely heisman winner. Look at that guy. He's staying accuracy automatic at all. You know what I mean. Just great receivers around him. No one's been part of more first days of work than car heart and in the same way rookies have to keep earning respect. Carl Hart never stops earning the respect of hardworking people like you from building rugged dear. That's tougher than any. I are worst day of work to reengineering the classics to out Work Future. Trust your car hearts to keep doing their job long after you begin doing yours since eighteen eighty nine car hearts. Got Your back. Twenty four seven visit carshield dot com forward slash. CFP One game Coming up tomorrow on your side College Game Day. It's Heisman Day. All the finalists will join us. Live from New York ahead of the Big Day plus we asked Army Navy players if they would prefer to beat their rival women national championship. Their answers might surprise you. And we'll profile navy captain all carruthers. Who plays for his teammates for honor and for his dad all that and more at nine am eastern on ESPN ESPN and the APP and now it is award season Justin Herbert congratulations to this year's recipient William v Campbell trophy presented Ed by Mazda? Oregon's Justin Herbert beat out. Eleven other finalists for the honor which is presented to the top scholar Athlete in College. Football Dude at four point. Oh that's pretty good. Ed is at or Jurong coach. Oh coach took home the Home Depot Coach of the Year award last night to college football awards. I fought for the first time in else. You coach is one since two thousand eleven. Can you get to go tigers last mile. Ask and then we go to the real guy. Starve starve. LSU Joe Borough. Borough might need another dorm. Room does present any or even dorm rooms anymore. It's all the awards took home last night. Lsu quarterback when both Davey Eddie O'Brien award in the Maxwell Award also named the eighth player of the year. Let's have a little planned up now. The heisman. Let's look at the heisman. Update brought to you by Nissan. What a year it has been for borough not just the SEC records but the drastic improvement across the board in the second years starting in quarterback in Baton Rouge? He's also on pace to set the all time single season completion record. Tell those are some unbelievable numbers from year to year. Explain the transformation Joe Berle from that guy to this guy. Where do you start you? Start with a Joe Brady no he. He came into to New Orleans to Baton Rouge from New Orleans and brought in very innovative offense of system. Something the net really highlights. Joe Borough skillset Joe Borough adapted to I think those two on the same page and that's where it started before that he was a game manager. You know it just running a prehistoric office so I think it all starts with Joe Brady. There's no doubt and it was interesting talking to coach. Oh the other night about the war show. Yeah I said how did you find why not do exactly what went into that. I said we wanted to talk because we wanted to learn about our heroes. They said they had a guy that knows how to do. RPO's and he came in and gave a clinic and we were like holy cow when you start getting started recruiting right then exactly absolutely. Here's what's the here's what's just dumb first of all this a uniform saying that we say across college football atop taxi twenty percent completion percentage tire twenty. That's shows you how much a system means to a guy. I know your answers. You're more accurate when you have weapons that you can now take advantage of your more accurate. The transformation of Joe broke the story that we've seen in one other thing you too when you talk to the White House you just Jefferson Jomar as they say. During the off season Desmond we will actually hop the fence to run routes with Joe Borough. We really took their wrists right risk reward but they put a lot of work in the off season to make sure that they were on the same page with Joe Bro. So these things don't happen by accident. They put in a lot of work when the coaches couldn't be around when the fans were watching in. That's that's why they're all so sharp this season he's not a manager anymore. Towns about system. We all have heisman trophy votes. We all voted you got I. I do have one vote because I think you pay attention and you're very knowledgeable embarrassing. Sties you there. There shouldn't be but that's another Tamar exactly a whole bunch of people. That probably voted for Joe. Borough I think the question becomes who's number two. We know we think we know who's number one right. How hard was it for you to vote for number two? I should let you go. I like a soapbox bullets. I'm I think it would have been easier to both. Were the number to handle how state pushed justin fields as opposed to chase young. Now saying that chase young doesn't deserve votes but I think that Justin feels more likely likely candidate when you look at the statistics accountable for fifty touchdowns in the young man only through one. I N T the whole. That's insane but seem like like they were just hell bent on pushing chase young chase young chase you had they push that young man right there. Jim just feels who had an outstanding season. Jesus I think he would have got some first place votes to. I think the person who's going to get second is going to be Jalen hurts. I would vote him. I would vote him third or less. Yeah personally slowly but I think I think fields and young are gonNA split votes in the head crafts. I think the May twelve and that's down in that region. Gopher jalen hurts. Obviously Joe Borough is GonNa. That'd be the commanding number one. I honestly think that Jalen hurts one that being the number two guy but I think this will be one of the biggest landslides we've ever had. I think Troy Smith has the biggest as number of ninety one percent of the vote. So yeah I think this'll this'll be close to that. It might push my free. What will really split it up especially in the Mid West? You talked about the two guys you have. I think there's GonNa be some sentiment for Jonathan Taylor Wisconsin. I mean he's GonNa get his thousand yards. Don't get to New York twice right okay. I mean bad not bad again. We can get on the site. So box of the heisman trophy. What it stands for now? Is You have to be in the playoffs. Like if you're not then you don't have a chance to be at the party because you can't be one of the best players in the country of your team's not in the top four. Well I'm also glad to see a defensive player. Amen Brother David. He's seconds that right second. Did you get any votes for the heisman. I I want to finish top eight. Not that that's an award. You get something like that. I was seventy seven spots from really close. Hey Las lots more spots than you out Saturday at eight eastern five Pacific on ESPN and the ESPN APP will have eighty a bit annual heisman trophy ceremony from New York City. Will it be. LSU's Joe Borough yes a pretty good chance. Oklahoma's jalen hurts. Ohio states justin fields. aww teammate chase. Young heisman trophy ceremony is presented by Nissan. This heisman update is is brought to you by Nissan Premier Partner of Heisman trophy. Hello everybody you're looking live at fans Ville a college football utopia where the rivers flow with ice cold. Dr Dr Pepper with the air smells fresh cut grass artificial turf and smoked meats with the radio only plays is marching band and being able to read. The defense is more important than being able to read. What makes fans bill truly special? Are The people people who call it home field the type of people who tailgate before the tailgate warrant afraid to shout. My grandma could've made that kick. 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He was in the Navy so we grew up on military bases all across the the country and every single time the army navy game came on. We weren't allowed to play outside group. I was a large family. Two other brothers three sisters. There's and all three of the sons had to sit down and watch the Army Navy game regardless of what was going on outside with the other kids got to the point where the kids in the neighborhood would knock on on the door and they're saying oh. My God is at that time of year again when you were little. You didn't enjoy eventually grew to appreciate so when you think about memories every time that army navy the game comes on because my dad's passed away and he's very to the national cemetery in Houston right now. It makes me think about the time he would pull us off the street. Get us out of the park. Call our friends on the telephone. And makers come home to sit down and watch the beginning to the end of the Army Navy game That is so cool you know. We all have connections to the armed forces. My Dad was a lieutenant. Colonel Career Air Force we. I grew up on Air Force Bases Dez. I know your brother. Career Air Force Audit Brother Jonathan Twenty five plus years in the Air Force. He was special ops in you. The thing about it is we have someone that closer you see you know. Everyone makes a sacrifice for the country but there are see the sacrifice. He made his own family to marry three boys. So there's there's a tremendous amount of respect for everyone in the military and my uncle. Gus has been. He's a four star general in the army so he's been in for a hot minute and he said the sacrifice a lot and it's always cool you and I know my kids. They talked about heroes in school. And I never forget my My daughter wrote a note about uncle. Gus just how much unsolicited. We didn't talk about not at all the unsolicited about why she was why he was her hero. And so we all have people in our family that have sacrificed so much and again when you have a connection you appreciate it so much more than you watch all these these people and I love that they get their own day by the way I love it. This is their own day is their their day to sit back and there's no other college football and there's other people to watch these people to sacrifice that's why I wanted. I mean even though we didn't go army we didn't go to navy but we have a connection in all people. Do I think they connect with these guys. You make a great point. That's one reason why why we love this game. Why else do you like it? I like the game. Yeah why don't you just like this day. This event emmys rivalry coach. Corso really helped we understand the significance of IT Army Navy game and I just wish one year one year when this is all said meaning. I'm retired from College Game Day. I WANNA stay hey and watched the actual game because the pageantry and everything behind it is a very special event. Now it's it's awesome and it's so it's so fun because the pageantry go talks about everybody that comes together all in the field so robbery. You're thinking about the Georgia Florida and Auburn Alabama and Alabama. Lsu like there's hatred and there's cheap shots and that this is about this is this is a healthy respect for each other. It's throwback football by the way it's option football. As did you saw back in the day. Like it's just discipline tough guys by the way you gotTa have a leg hanging out over here for you to stop them. I mean they're going to come and come income. It's just everything about Coleman. The systems and the coaches are great and embrace it and it's just fun then. It has taunted respect absolutely yes great point speaking of respect. We wanted to kind of see. Maybe I know you went to Michigan. You went to Georgia. What had things been a little different? Not Yeah some place else right. Let's take a little look. That talks the David. That's David Baucus. Swallow David Your Good Ingraham. I agree I look really read you ready to go to the CAP. Ah Food where we go. There's David Paul. CNAS dress S. Y.. Okay look good as a navy man Nice and Dapper thank. You really liked that movie. Richard Gere was an officer and a gentleman. The way you look form. Well my friend really sharp. Could you've gotten neither either the Service Academies Army or Navy Good Grades I scholarship. Ever think about it never really crossed my mind but now you think that you mentioned that would have been pretty fun fun. Yeah could have gotten if he didn't account math English anything like that engineer had it on I am totally live booth great so you Saturday x rays cat scans MRI ultrasound. Some of the biggest breakthroughs in medicine have been technologies. He's that let doctors see things they couldn't before now. 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"Last week we brought you a head scientist at work provisory. Doctor didn't let me remind you just of a sense of this guy This is what he had to say last week that that we played on the show this. Hello i'm doctor my eaten. I have a phd boggle sciences and searches years experience in pharmaceutical industry and in biotech. I believe that the pandemic in uk conclude the end of the summer. I think not because about percents had prior immunity to the virus slumped over thirty percent more have become immune having been infected and recovered. That's true than too few remains sexual. People support the kind of outbreak that we're told he's now going all so there's a problem. I think the pcr tests at present you throwing up so many positives that in fact we misdiagnose the cause of the deficit being reported the number of deaths occurring at the moment is normal. Okay the reason. Why i mean obviously it was talking about our discussion. Last week was was pcr tests. You want to know how bad pcr tests and see signs like you're seeing right now go back and watch last week's episode but i bring them up then he was saying exactly what we just showed you allyson. Pollock was saying on the news earlier when they're locking down up there in the uk That you know because of those lockdowns they don't work. We can't be testing because the test don't work but let's get back to our point right now. We now have matt hancock saying. I'm going to start delivering this to millions of people across the uk. This the secretary of essentially of health in the uk. Well dr eaten has gone on. Shall we say a truth commission on twitter. I wanna read. I'm going to read every tweet. He's put out because this is really important. This is his rebuke of this plan to roll out this vaccine remember. This guy spent his life advisor. Who's made this vaccine. Take a look at this response to the vaccine consultation. Dear mr hancock. I have a degree in biochemistry. And toxicology and a research base phd. In pharmacology. I spent thirty two years working pharmaceutical. Rnd mostly new medicines for disorders of lung and skin. I was a vp vice president and visor and ceo of a biotech. I founded jarkko acquired by novartis. I'm knowledgeable about new. Medicine are indeed. Trust me i have read the consultation document. I rarely been shocked and upset. All vaccines against the sars koby to virus are by definition novel. No candidate vaccine has been in development for more than a few months. If any such vaccine is approved for use under any circumstances that are not explicitly experimental. I believe that recipients are being misled to a criminal extent. This is because there are precisely zero human volunteers for whom there could possibly be more than a few months past dose tapie information. My concern does not arise because i have negative views about vaccines. I don't instead the very principle that politicians see ready to waive that new medical interventions at this incomplete state of development at incomplete state of development should not be made available to subjects on anything in explicitly experimental basis. That's my concern. And the reason for that concern is that it is not known what the safety profile will be six months or a year or longer after dosing. You have literally no data on this and neither does anyone else. It isn't that i'm saying that. Unacceptable adverse effects will emerge after longer intervals after dosing. No it is that you have no idea what will happen yet. Despite this you'll be creating the impression that you do. Several of the vaccine candidates utilized novel technology which have not previously been used to create vaccines. There is therefore no long term safety data which can be pointed to in support of the notion that it's reasonable to expedite development and to wave absence safety information on this occasion. I am suspicious of the motives those proposing expedited us in the wider human population. We understand we now understand who is at particular elevated risk of morbidity and mortality from acquiring this virus volunteers from these groups only should be provided detailed information about risk and benefit including the soul point. I make here. Only if informed consent is given should any experimental vaccine be used. He obviously is calling experimental. I don't trust you. You've not been straightforward and the behaved appallingly throughout this crisis. You're still doing it now. Misleading about infection risk from young children. Why should i believe you in relation to experimental vaccines dr michael eden that is what a real scientist and every real scientists should be shouting right now. Okay you have promising results in point two percent of your test group. I'm sorry. Science does not based decisions on point. Two percent of what is an already berry. Small task group at forty three thousand people remember. There are millions of us. Each one of our bodies being completely different than the next in so many different ways. There is no one-size-fits-all and obviously you can't do a study. That encompasses all of the issues that exist and humanity and our differences and diversities. But certainly you should wait till you find out what happens to the forty three thousand. You did choose okay. Let's wait a minute and the truth is is there was never a plan to wait. Actually they plan on coming to final determinations based on only one hundred sixty four or so of people getting it back they're gonna make the final determines nations from that so you go ahead if you want to line up for this vaccine you go right ahead. If you feel like you can call an election. Based on point two percent of the ballots coming in then go right ahead and see what your world continues to look at. Let's see how healthy you remain when you let science do. Its work that way. Which brings me to. It's not just dr year and right it's not just the high wire not you know just pollock and other scientists around the world saying come on. We know how to do science. How about those doctors. That right now are getting calls from the health department in the uk that saying. Hey by the way we need you now to start delivering in order to reach our number to bring back matt hancock headline because i think it said how many they plan on reaching hollyman here. It is could be cut back for months as a gps. Doing everything else as army army helps roll out. One point two million coveted back gene doses. A week starting december first. This means that virtually every doctrine the uk has to start giving this vaccine every five minutes in order to reach this number and because of this there was a dialogue in a blog that took place between many doctors. Many were watching. Here's just a snippet. We happened to stumble upon this. Because we've got great researchers all over the world listen to doctors trying to contemplate. How gonna do this. And what is the ethics of it. And what am i responsible for. When i don't know jack about this vaccine taylor this. I've seen in a number of places. this phrase. Gp's have a moral duty to to Play that paul in delivering the covid nineteen vaccine. And i think that's undeniable but gp's have a moral duty to fulfill the rest of their contracts correctly They have a moral juicy to do things safely with the system has moral. Gt to to use that resource effectively And i am not to blackmail them with moralistic language Into agreeing to something which they perhaps feel now understand deliverable so. I think this is a bit of an issue for me. Really one thing. That is being slow eastern austin about the consent process for this vaccination and so in order. This is a new vaccine. Must be absolutely clear in terms of how this works is a new vaccine and the information we have on the implications of the vaccine one percent clay. So we can't tell you what impact this will have on you in five years time now. No state that so call require is the gp will have to do the consent process for patients with us and that consent process is going to take time. Let's be absolutely clear. This isn't like a flu vaccination standard seasonal flu vaccination consent. We do because we know the implications most patients had it before already having it and we can. We have got good information into confidence in terms of how the flu vaccination works for many patients. I am quite mindful. Of the fact. If i'm gp being asked to consent somebody from this. The only way. I will be able to do this. I have absolute certainty that if a patient fortunately housing on toward vent exotic seen. That doesn't come back to me. Because i'm being asked to consent them for something. I don't have information outside of what we know inside their massive unknowns with this and i think this will be covered under the cns gp schemes. Any chest resolutions and stuff but then again we've been told things like this in the past and individual. Gp's of then suffered results that so there is a question mark on thames. A how that's gonna work and things. You know the needs to be clarity from the center as to the consent process in terms of the indemnity for those clinicians a willing to help and do this. Make sure it's safe them. And that's a real challenge amazing again. If you wanna see that entire dialogue. I geek out on stuff like this. Maybe maybe you're not getting it. These doctors are being put on the front line to deliver something they know nothing about and they're asking am i completely indemnified. What goes down. If they get injured. I am going to be accepting responsibility. I'm going to be consenting to back. Seen telling them they need to get it. When i don't know how it works. I don't know how much damage is going to do. And what if it does injure them and you hear the doctor saying themselves for the watching several times but it just hit me saying there have been historical moments where we were told. We were protected from indemnity. But that in the end up being the case in certain doctors went down. I was thinking. I wonder if he's referring to the nuremberg trials when you had sixteen doctors saying hey man. Hiller said it was okay. Right i was doing with every other doctor was doing. We were told we were doing was right. We were advancing medicine right. And now you're going to hang me. Because i killed innocent people. That wasn't my poll. I knew nothing about the product. Matt head may maybe delivered. Why is he not hanging right now. Do you see where this is going we. This is no joke. this is not a joke. This is serious. They are about to deliver an experimental vaccine with zero safety understanding based on point two percent of the people that are in a trial and now your doctors. Are they going to do it. Are they going to revolt. Are they going to say no way. Man i'm not touching that vaccine. I wonder are american. Doctors gonna do it. It seemed like our american doctors had no problem just using ventilator the ventilator and watching a desk they never seen before of nine out of ten people dying in hospital say well. Hey that's the protocol of america protocols this vaccine nobody knows anything about but hey i washed my hands of that. Good luck here. We go now remember on top of all the issues we discussed. I'm going to really freak out my group my team right here. I have to deliver this. This incredible vaccine's only been tested. We only know about point. Two percent has to stay at over ninety below zero critical. Hurdle revises corona virus vaccine. We have to keep it at ninety. Four degrees below zero everywhere. It goes so not only. Are these doctors saying. I didn't know what this vaccine does. And i certainly know that. My clinic doesn't have a refrigerator that goes to ninety four below zero in two weeks. I'm supposed to be injecting one person every five minutes. Nobody on cnn told you that they nobody and msnbc told you any of this day. No one fox gna. This did day now. Nobody is telling you the truth. And i am telling you people very well may die. I'm not even gonna get into the depths of what we discussed about issues of immune enhancement and how dangerous this vaccine actually is if you like that clip be sure to check out our live broadcasts behind wire every thursday morning at eleven. Am pacific time. You can watch it on facebook and twitter we'll see.
Episode 25 : Becoming a Community Leader in NZ
"The kangaroo and production syndicate somewhat. Sarry conversation with me bill to connect with other women who may need someone to talk to around everyday life issues and challenges for managing career and housing to inner productivity relationships and other hot topics with saudi conversation with an and welcome everybody to my podcasts on with saudi conversations with niimi i am your host mimi loria and you are in a podcast. Featuring hot topics and other topics of interest for both men and women alike. Sometimes we featured guest was shared their passion and their commitment their professional balance and here on saturday and we share stories. Pleased are you slice from ordinary people who make extra ordinary things and in today's episode. We have another special. Yes is betty. Read that i have mail gas up. You're one of the very first few male guests on the program. Mr marcelo mar s. Berra's i am welcome and say hello to our listeners and viewers i Hello to everybody come with stat and here I am here in houston and I'll welcome and thank you mimi in inviting me to talk about something about the index Many things speaks. So i would like to introduce you in part because i a reading all you. So you're not a stranger booby I know that in the philippines you use the in the banking industry so finance and banking your background and then you also have links or advice with my her half because you belong in a very full. Dat manley must muscular military of background them. Big for thirty of you know Army army military organization is back in the philippines and then we were together in new zealand for so many years doing a lot of community work. in wellington and i know that you have within your that and i want to ask you a question about that later on It's your foreigner of knights of brazil. Resile charitable trust a my correct. But before that you used the also be the president of Before so you are in that space. I really want to talk about that. So the moment maher is Starting his during knee as a with his only mission so mar has very young grandchildren. And they all love the b with the la and las omar. That's another thing that i want us the talk about which is north the stage of your life where you're no longer look after your grandkids and it's going to be an interesting conversation so i think i i really want to interview the big because all that you have a lot of our wealth of knowledge and advice the you can venus or also thinking of moisture. Newsy that so. That's the agenda of our episode today. So let's backtrack let mar little be a venue. They'll me very very briefly. Your journey from philippines new zealand. Why did you enroll the decide. Besides the move another country when you are kind old or maybe police settled in your banking and finance career. So tell me what went on at that time. Which made you fly and move on. Non-banking country backing sectors. Give a little bit of a context of his time way back. The two thousand seven My wife and i have a candid conversation about Settling another country I we have walked applied the canada because in canada my mother in law and my sister in laws are under. And i think it's better to have also My tummy who join me. Damn but jude due to the processing time By new cnn the application is the first being a probe and all the things all the the protocols requirements a had been They can do and Actually my wife is the wass the principle of the the obligation in immigration. So he went. Keiazi went here in new zealand. The i think late The bemba who thousand seven and We journey Uh sia was Almo- that by one of our friend also an office mate in a banking Her bunking green philippians in westman bank and We got a westmont bank Up there heard a bnb The former president off the philippine national bank mistero. I'll miss their spiritual Get them a theme to meant. And then that's it. That is the the dejoy neo. My wife we her friend Her friend is the first Who came here in new land and will read that the connection See already have what's called a good opportunity to land here in A very Very a good contrary in. Houston we that spent one month of for her estate of Yang i'm meteorologist seeing her Her aldean did andy cultured. Worked at aches chatter and up their full months See got a permanent appointment to aid the one off the government the entity. Mitch lead us to abreu warrior. Wpri stop the ward residents Starters visa and we that There a month. I'll we are. We are able to to Who the beanies. All the requirements and philippines and joint. My wife here in your see none. By renting i three a we rent a decent house and dan. We bought one car or all were. How long will mobilize within the The cpi and You know it's a lot awful adjustments. I just meant on the all adjustment on the community and We read my wife just inc new job. me I'm also starting to Find the A good job. That s Beat it on my qualification but You know above money just ghost to another country and you have downgrade your your your your your data so that they will not be in being related in white so yeah so we My first during me and my Employment sweetie i New season i she. That is a one arm. The i new zealand capital. That is stuck on brokering et cetera. And my first work is a liaison analyst. So we it still also pitted For or my White petition and knowledge and experience. Because you're with reconciliation. It is just an accounting accounting background and Yes balancing all the transactions within the day saw with my eight years stint in Fresh new done I decided to Stay here in lower half because detroit situation. If the name forty-five the one are troubling With the Sometimes and we I asked my wife that i will be Changing my career and you know in new zealand If you are really Your term in and your by some off the experience you have got in your mother country you will not be You not alienate that. You do Selfie spy all embroiders The future in burger here in that in in the community so we that blah again applied to a supermarket industry and that is the countdown countdown supermarket. Yeah and now. We'd the a. I i was then a check out of eight or and then ran day So my My leadership and my Indonesia some new lead people are they Make me They make me a supervisor on checkout and then eventually when they knew that i am a bump manager then they they're are surprised why and then was in the cass balancing asa or gas operation gus analyses and balancing of all based transactions and sales. So we that i I decided to again Last december two thousand seventeen. I decided to to who to Retirement and that batman I i asked again my wife. That i i go to a retirement They love of things that have been the bland's like better sample. I have blue house in painting every day i do. Yes yes yes boss. Because it's just so. I'm things i realized from. Your story is your impo new sean. You're you're wanting you was changed and your ability adopt because you didn't mind that you were in the banking sector before you manager. You have a high position you moved. The new zealand is fed some out incubating although you Kind of the multi yourself through the balancing and then later on you decided you want to change careers the both at this for market industry. But because you have solve any skills they want to upgrade you within that supermarket and then you have to be decided. Enough is enough. You have want to retire so these why. Why mar i mean. So you want to start to podcasts. Or perhaps you've already started one but your seal unclear on how you can actually make this podcasting work no worries that's why we're here for you. We are real podcast syndicate powered by kangaroo for media medialab join our network contact us at info at kangaroo for in dot com because rare stronger. Together how come you're able to adopt when some people have this dream. Have this mentality that wendy move abroad. They will be even better than they were before. Or they have this expectation that they can be in the same job but a lot of including yourself are a festive money. You're at best moment that it doesn't have to be that way. How how we. How can you help me explain this ability. That doesn't mean that if you are not in the same job you're less kind of a burst son. After the it's not. I mean you're in that you have to learn so i want you to explain that a little bit more okay A subset at the oh. I am appalled Bump money garron an idiot monte in our in our region in in laguna and the way you came to assert in country like this they are you know. They are the employer beer. Your future employer will be checking your credentials and sometimes Like what are simple here in new zealand. When when the i apply for imposition it is the position. You are obliged you are applying for. You have to beat your by your data for the position. And if you're issue an area if you are applying for only a supervisory supervisor position like reconciliations super bison a soul and your money then they will be the into. Europe will be intimidated because they are only manager. And then the probably. They're thinking that someday they read this replacement like not so it me A be the first thing you have A somebody or Future future african It'd be able the flexibility all on the on position. Fight ballots should be come spurs because the objective is you. Have i done that. See if you are if you are if you don't if you don't A so fast up the interview. So that's it is another Era on their time to look for a another what the call that the the position or another application. So it's better to do a good thing or the dot the best to the position and an upper dock issue. I like temple me in a epn said I was article lert. I was a clerk jo during the time when they so my potential One one one time to another time you will be promoted count and the abrupt. It's yeah yeah you have to you. Go to step ladder because you know in. Ucon even you are an high school graduate graduate here you can. You can land. If you're you're you're oppy to is the best in depletion immediately begin issue your your your responsibility your dedication and your you know your your your health champion. The the The award even even though that is a guess. Just import reconciliation and balancing. You have to exert airport also and us management of us your super by money you a what are other. Do and especially me. I always volunteer ran the The health and sippy is bucket by somebody. Because he's promoted. And then right away. I i think i am best pass on do that. health and safety and up there that i was promoted to chip in and file out by then and that's it money back. Managing not only lors app said but Behold the providers in the building so six in done Yeah i think the reason i have succeeded in your different pursuits. You about professional person seniors at this. Because you're the type of person who always Is eager to learn is eager to do something new You don't let that pushy sean. get into your head. All what innis went to implement debuted and then it would follow if they see your potential like you said then. There are a lot of opportunities. I guess the last year's that filipinas don't need to get so if you're if they wanted to go the newseum dot gets in day the of that you'll be there stay away late one marcin eckstein you do it step by step one step at the final then you will reach your your dreams. I'm loving what you're saying you're meets your damore because that that is really your stein. That is your really your personality. And that is a formula that keeps on working that not a lot of people realized that they have to change their previews uncle or gala or discard story. Said said yeah. Yeah that somebody should be lexical lexi. That's it those are great qualities not mine. It's another sub topic so you also are heavily involved in your charitable both. Trust gin you replete. Tell us what that trust is and some of your address. I'd do forms that and what is the how. How does it tell. Community in wellington or in new zealand jagger. Okay eight years ago. I was then i One of my quality in hidden been people become your community will increase him. You know even know we don't have any renumeration and we are not compensated with the who know you work or a job or responsibility You know we are we our agape jerry doubled press and all all or almost we are independent podcast network. We are your real podcasts syndicate. Would you like to hear your brand while. Supporting quality podcast. Contact us now at advertise at guerrilla podcasts syndicate dot com. I'm almost three years so we saw it being us chairman of that. The charitable trust augusta. Give not help. Serve our community especially those who are new in the india the area or in be community regardless of ethnicity we are helping and we help Deeper and recess a here coming or spatially migrants that's why agape so many say brotherhood in in in the sense and then up there a three years of chairman. I told our ticket. Absurd executive or sandra That i will be passing the baton or some other able leaders. Not only me by we dot. We are betty for to nate. That Three years two years ago. One of our broad. Our broad derbies in me Be the new ambassador ambasadors aura. His excellency guiding domingo our plus ninety Came here and and told me abroad. Please help me put my first week. In oregon. Orienting myself in the new zealand regime jeter so without still matzah though I i helped my my brother in arms and that's it so up better. Several months the ambassador told me oh abroad We have one One organization in philippians. And even me in saudi arabia i forum on organization in saudi arabia. When i was there i saw the console. A de and mao order of the nypd brisson. An objective of this is To help also community Our our less fortunate and marquette a marginalized community communities sectors and. That's it. And i told him again on. No problems ed and Okay amada and you organize or like but example. A platoon of leaders like that and With my experience with the our community dealing with some community leaders in wellington. I usually organized a red ball. Real people we'd our Newly organ ice to be organized organization. That is the order of mike result. Railing bunch up there on the first stop. There is in oakland and we the proximity of upland. The ambassadoral cannot go there on a weekly basis and he told me oh. Mar you organize the wedding. Don't shop autism and then without the era said several weeks and that's it we applied for the establishment of the the chop them and with my experience with deep charitable trust. I organized all of the Dego documentation of organized seeing This organization with applied in the company's new zealand companies organization and then applied for a charitable trust because that is one of the environment all fbi and you see land if you are a chapter or you are helping people you should apply. Also for charitable trust so that you can take advantage swede the the programs of government in the funding and keeping your budget on a certain project. We're not And that's it. I am maximizing all the all the The things that i have learned to you when we have a very hard to formulate a program we baljit he end and analysis so that it will be icily approved for yeah you or funding and i am so impressed with the work that you've done but who can join your order of knights or resile group a is there a special qualification for people. If they're interested to join. Auckland group in the wellington drill. Baby somebody is Listening or watching us right now. Wants to join your group. Are you. Open to membership Es members deep off on recital is throw recommendation of the abuse member or recommendation. All community leaders. I it is not just picking up evil. Who do stinks. Each other because Doing all the projects planning of the the chop bear it means this Bygone style so in coordination or lob oration the of everybody or or steps event or a program and that's it so it is not regard eight regardless of ethnicity. Actually a we have recruiting people like sample one. The of our ambassador with the iranian it iranian Prety beck notre. We saw a doctoral in victoria. University's is planning to join with us. early early this year because we the be nineteen pandemic we. We stop our with meant. Doodoo yana social distancing and jeter but now we are inevitable one we can begin worcester again seoul. A guard ethnishity It is a we are. We are enemy. All people in all walks of life la In a different. B b print bishop lead whether you are in bank being your managerial position jeter and that's it Because we have bought a project That they could be have what we call the have to. You have to spend your money. Yes yes yes we are. We are actually maximizing. Our budget depending on the budget for some right now we are betty thank booth. The new zealand government through the ministry of social development baked gave us a certain number of budget to help to alleviate our bit nine hundred affected individual in our region. So we dot I i really don't if you saw my My boston in my best facebook I have completed almost ranch overall projects. So we trenches a project. is food distribution. Who orbit ninth in a bag. That indimedia want guardless again. If nippy everybody everybody in the community is a red come to to see us of all us We need these these essential goods. And then that's it we are we are. We are there to help them actually right now. Our part Port and trance. We are giving it thirty bucks. A big bags of goods read aussie stewart's and the church is managing all their Their their people or From bg different ethnicity and the The are gaming that they will distribute about from within this week. Wow exciting times. So it doesn't mean that if you're retired you are not You know you're very busy with Your abilities and not yet. That's what one of the things that Some people are probably wondering how they can Maybe helping the unity. So it's a good example. What mar is standing us. At the moment is you can start small. You can probably joined If if not join us a member you can probably ask around in your community. Saturday awaiting along and automobile here but he made a man on for example. They have also something. That's going on look around you obviously. There are so many groups that you can ask her out And then you can build your networks. They're mar With your experience in the community to admit a lot of people who knows it could be linking you do. I knew job. It could be linked in utah volunteer road and using and i love the ultra about volunteering and helping out the community and you are a very good example of how you that in your daily life and speaking of daily life. I know you're you're still very active in your stole gun time. You're that you're meat dine and obviously you have your grandchildren to look after. So how are you finding the time to balance your gun flood liberties looking after your your mama uproar and all projects for the order of the knights of result. Like what you so far. Make sure you never miss an episode. By clicking on the subscribe button. Now this podcast possible by listeners. Like you thank you for your support now back to the show up the moment I'm i am. I say so. I have In time to look up there read my family. That is almost saw ninety percent. You mean need to say balmy first before something so all we'd my with my scheduling planning monday to friday. It's for family. So no no other on another other commitment but dr diplomacy or monday to friday. Soul with my my Grandma grandchildren my newly born gun. Son and that's it. And if i'm always wastes on the on the goal saw abe my son or my daughter old mummy daddy i will leave my daughter and and you get them all gay. Big nut mesa. Monday to friday and i asked my my wife and you'll pay Allow me Thought their own sunday to do. My you know extracurricular activities like for example Actually i have Three sports activities. One go goal and then Boiling than been boiling and shuping. And my wife you know just select one. And that's it. And i told her and older her. All of my that is my first and foremost is sports activities in the gave because shooting. Pb and that's it so we have a lot of Offending some national competitions north solid island north island south island. Beer all all some shen on petition of a pistol new zealand and even A a it is not the present right now. We'll be moving to australia. Asia and the the ratio is by land so martha because of dark. This concept Hopefully we are being selected who Who will participate on that On that competition saw a lot of by you know philippine us here in new zealand Excel in pistol shooting and that's why the new zealander is really very a genuine reuss end sometimes very helpful and friendly will filipina shooters. Yeah i'd say data because because filipino talent but of they're very gracious and india right there your generals saw burn as a migrant leaving in a country. You cannot help but be generals as well and offer yourself in everything that you do because that's the way of life in new zealand going to end a heartbroken. Also what can you share somebody. who's listening. not sure about what using the as an now. If if after gobi they decide they want to travel there as obviously or they won the also migrate. Just like what you what you've done and now hearing your good stories. What's your main advice to other the people who want to the new zealand Resident to those Those individuals Especially young couples. It's better to go to This country see. And because i found it to be a merely besa country new zealand and we have a Any other country in the world that the hevea poor season for season in a day. So here is getting on In the morning it's sunny and then in the afternoon it's raining and sometimes in the evening it's a snowy. So that's it. That's why there is a song or cease in a day and that grilling on safety thirty i i advise All electric sample Light to the zoo. They are career on their career in new zealand. Spatially in it The they are pretty strong in. It and strong in also in farming In the philippines when you are called yada par val Your fool you. You believe the law though society but here in ucla. Don a unabomber. You ought to billionaire your own basta blind your own cartel you own Share your own assam being the you are managing the The that's why A cut addressing here in ucla. Davey arming is very very lucrative job industry so if you if you are in the industry you or you are welcome to go to. Ucla the wild so the strength of new zealand. Mine a missing your zealand. You honestly i've been on my seven year this year leaving in the straight knifing. Australia's very different. But it's still different when you go back home and obviously new zealand is. Our is our home Although our home country is The philippines admitted it is our adoptive Home and i wish we could go back again and Remedies the good them that we have in visit you in wellington but martin. I really appreciate you define that just fancier sorry And your words of wisdom. So i think if people want to get in touch with you they probably have on and then i will go on. W. i think that's the way the goal. So thank you for your time. Martin l. for people who are watching reducing into if you have any other topics you preach teach english for less. Just ask us about any of my email the mimi up ninety off of reach out and obviously adding salama thank you very much another very interesting enlightening about your life in new zealand. Which makes under people really think that. It's a blessed country and in woman. You got some other. Thank you very much barbara for joining the initial. Okay thank you in a massage saying you. Nap bag miami. Thank you thank you for listening. Sure to visit our website. Www dot google podcasts. Indicate dot com where you can subscribe to the show in apple podcasts. Google podcasts spotify. Stitcher or vr is so you'll never miss a show while you're at if you found value in this show rate and review in this podcast and share it with your friends you can also join the conversation with relax. Are we on facebook twitter and instagram. Least consider on making a donation to help us. 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SO Unbecoming Episode 18: Writer, Marla Bautista
"Hello and welcome to episode eighteen of so unbecoming. I'm Jamie Musk off. And as we're getting closer to the holidays I just WanNa say a special. Thank you to everyone who standing watch out there and uniform and all of you who are key things together on the home front. I appreciate your sacrifices and hard work every day and I'm so grateful to produce PODCASTS INSERVICE to you. I listened to a podcast yesterday by Michelle Berry Franco called thought leadership school and immediately think of the conversation. I'm about to share with you today with the incredible about Teesta. Marlin is an army spouse a mom a writer and she's all about leading from her own story when I had this conversation with Marla. Awhile back I really thought I need to do so unbecoming the after show because she and I talked for a long time after I stop recording about the things she shared during the interview. I know you're going to be inspired when you hear her too. So let's get to my conversation with writer Marla Teesta so welcome. I'm so happy that we're able to talk today. Give us a little bit of background on you. Tell us your name and where you're from where you are now and In what you do name is Marla. I'll tell you that I am an army. I I am originally from L. was raised in Denver Colorado and I currently live in Fort Drum New York. Oh that's that's a big transition from you. Know all the way from the West Coast to the east coast but I am a military spouse. I'm an army wife eleven years. I actually married my husband after a meeting. Have thirty days prior. So that's for another day But so the beginning of our mirrors was kind of you know I was working full time and my husband was in the army reserves which really been money It didn't pay any of our bills and so we were kind of struggling financially I haven't got. He got temporary job working in a warehouse and this kind of helped us financially but it wasn't enough And then I actually ended up and so I was like. Hey something's gotta change like I'm working my butt off. I was working fulltime plus overtime. Who is doing side jobs In picking up dog poop on the weekends is on the cool side job. Just say no. I was doing it in so I was pregnant and that lesson as a nigger So I decided that him going active duty would be the best for both of US ended up going active duty in the army and are first active duty station list barracks ally and so we actually moved over there. I actually did have having a miscarriage. Unfortunately So we moved over there. He jumped straight into army life. We've lived on Paul's gwen straightaway to training on the and he was deployed. Now I said earlier. They had only ninety days prior to getting married. This all happened within about four of us being married when we're moving. Why and he was already gone on. His is so less than a year is being married. We were preparing forward plans to Iraq in so that was really hard for me. I have my job in Denver because I you know. Of course I can transfer my job. I worked in hospitality industry in some we got to Hawaii. I actually was looking for. Boxer is a lot of hospitality jobs in what is actually Interviewed in gotTa Job there and before my husband deployed. We would preplan counseling which is amazing. Because we're allowed to talk about our expectations during the climate With our spouse and so we were talking about it and my husband's like well if you're working how would I call you? How can I talk to you? And I'm like I don't know going to work so all of a sudden a little different as an army style. That was no longer than that in arguing. I now as an army wife. Who so purpose. In my opinion a good care of my soul your eye on role taking care of my soldier. I didn't take the job when a soldier not employees. I sat at home. I did a little bit of volunteering. Took some classes at the army community service ultimately my lifeless around it in taking care of my soldier I kind of lost myself in that. And that was a years of my life Was just taking care of him preparing for deployment blowing through at twelve month applying as we had before and you know waiting by the phone and this was all before facebook. So is the phone rings. You didn't receive that phone call from your husband now you were. You know chance you had anxiety is something happened. Usually with apple Owns off out in Iraq and there was no outside communications. So you didn't know your husband was okay or you know what not so. It was a very hard time for me Over the years I cream Solely focused on him having children and then I was on my children so ultimately I kind of lost myself. I lost my own identity. I lost at independent woman. I used to be so over time. I had to learn how to get that back. So what was the thing that was was it year? Children reaching a certain age or was your husband reaching a certain point in his career. Kinda gave you what. What was your green light? Marla go for it moment. So my goal quart moment and this is an A. Hannah be a little league is not a great bell for moments actually and my my light went off inside of my head was when we had situation of infidelity and are near And that's when I realized that I lost myself. I realized that I was doing so much for this other person. And I I wasn't giving anything to myself In that happen I realize that not only was I not getting something to myself. But he was also seeking something somewhere else and so ultimately it was almost like a double whammy and so at that moment it clicked inside me at. You've got to do better for yourself because you can't give all of yourself to someone but that doesn't mean that that's going to be reciprocated. Nor does that mean I will fulfill you and I wasn't fulfilling me and so I had to do better for myself. I was literally spending years at home. This taking care of my kids and my husband and also these functions in me at spouse that and has that fulltime job and oh is your husband and she's like oh I don't know and I I in the world is at my whole life was consumed by my soldier Higher existence was about him and I would have never known that it was almost a blessing in disguise. I hate to say that but it was a disguise if that would have never happen. I have noticed that I lost myself. No because I thought that was whole play at that point because I thought so trained into just taking care of is over the years you get lost in that And I that one. I used to be that was God. That wow that is a big revelation and I think I I certainly can relate to that story and I definitely had my you know I I I would say. Had a green light moment and Fortunately it wasn't that kind of moment but because that is a big wake up call But you know how incredible that you were able to work through that and work past that you're still married today and you're doing these phenomenal things. I mean you're a military spouse of the year you are a writer. You're all these incredible things and I. I love that I love that. You have come through that period of your life in just and you're just you're not just doing okay. You're doing phenomenally so tell us about some of the things that you did We certainly don't have to go into the marriage part of overcoming headed if you don't want to but personally what are the things that you did for yourself? That was like okay. I'm this is how I'm going to get marlow back one piece at a time. Well the first thing that I had to do in all honesty was go to counseling and not just marital counseling with something that we get as well as a couple of housing for myself. Kind of find out. I lost myself in the first place. What happened to make me Wants to go down that path in leave myself behind because you can go down that path with your spouse and you still maintain your sense of self But then there's a lot of times where you know where it's hot in every In the military culture that our soldiers importance is is the nominal is Yoon Arison to the the importance of the family. Unfortunately in so I kind of Alaba- path soul counseling was one of the first decided realize. Hey I actually want to do something with my life. I had his fire to be a writer. I actually started college of age of seventeen going to community college and then life happened and I ended up propping college and so when I was about twenty eight years old Is after all this stuff. Happened in idea counting. I guess I want to go to school but I don't know how that looks or how to do it so it was. I went to the Education Center on Poles and I talked to some of the visors area. There's advisors from different schools off in at a military installation as usually about four schools as though. I talked to all of them find out you know what what path I should say and so I was. I was Louis intimidated now. I'm not a college for over ten years I had any I am now. I had to was Germany at the time and so I was like. I don't know how to do this so I talked to them and I told them. I want to be a writer. I don't know how to to get into that field Academically as what I wanted to do and I you have to be honest so I was on with them and said Hey. I'm really erred. I don't want to take a full time schedule because I don't know how my life or the life of my children So if I can start slow I'll do act so I suggested. Hey Hey class at a time and you can do it online if you want to. Don't have physically both to a school center To receive your education. You're doing online missile. This was like oh my gosh. It was so amazing for me to hear this because this was something that I could start off slow and kind of worked my way into it So I am taking one class at time. I was actually majoring in English I took one class at a time in the school I was going to Was AMAZING BECAUSE NOT ONLY? Did they offer online classes? But they offer Hybrid classes in in classroom classes as well at the education center so I was really grateful. I had options. And that's one of his aides or meet with the stepping into school was that I didn't know what I wanted to do. So I need it those options there for me so that I can say okay. I want to do this but if I came to my mind as okay do And so that was really important for me is one of the first things. Was you know getting that class scheduled out? So I met with the advisers I registered for school oftentimes as military spouse your registration fee Free or low cost In so I register for school and I got my class schedule And I was only taking one class I thought about my AGFA and a lot of people. Don't know that you're GONNA our chips. Dot Com are of our troops for different things for military spouse. People of Color for disabled people burst so many different categories of scholarships that you can get at our at his free money that you will not have to be required to pay back on. You have to ask your classes and fell for me. That was an avenue that eye to eye visit is operatives dot com and I feel about followership applications. I use fast one and I got Pilgrims from government and I also use a army emergency relief. I don't know specifically speaking for any other branches. Though in Army army emergency relief also in certain places will provide funding for school. And so that is well and so. I actually started college. I ate nothing at a zero dollars going to school. And this was another thing that impacted my education because now all of these things are kind of scary. If you don't know where to begin you're like oh can I afford is I have the time for this and ultimately I could afford it because it was free and I time because I take class and I can do it all lying while my children were sleeping while they were still owns daycare or there was just so many other options for me so I was grateful for that so I started going to school one class at a time and I ultimately built upon class as I felt comfortable silent while class and I started taking two classes? All the way into a full time schedule. You don't have to do that as glass throughout the duration of your of Your Education. I more comfortable asked. Hi What I. I was. Regaining that sense of cell. I was I was doing a concert. Is Allow that allowed me to continue on to do more so I continue to do that. In the ultimate leave ended up getting my associate's degree in general studies with Hispanic background. And I got my bachelor's in communications I did swift by major in as another ing. Bat Is Super Amazing about this. I went to and many of the schools. You can you can change. Anytime is your relies. Hey that's something at night but had a little more difficult in my audit would be. Were either null interested in that subject. You can keep your mate. And that's I. I switched from English to communications. Which to me is kind of insane family. A little different is so I was see myself Air My bachelor's degree awesome. I love that I heard a lot of really important things at what you're talking about. The first thing was that you went into. It took me a resource. So you knew that there were resources on post And there are typically are in most military installations so you went in and but you also went in knowing what it was that you wanted to do. You said I want to be a writer and honestly I and say probably my whole life. I wanted to be a writer as well. And you know how you go through your life where people are like. Oh that's nice. It's like saying I WANNA be a baseball player or something. I don't know what it is. I people Over the course of my life have been like a writer. That's weird but so I feel like I've actually feel like that's quite a realistic goal. Especially these days but you know I would. I would also think it's important for anybody. Who's out there who's thinking? They want to go back to school wanting to do something to not see. Whatever it is they want to do is kind of a pipe dream. At least start there. You know because I think in the in the course of your story learning how you went from English to communication. I think that makes a Lotta sense because you know communications puts you more in a place where you can quote unquote do something with your degree. It makes it a little bit more actionable in specific Which is Great? Not that there's anything wrong with being English Major. I think there's lots of actionable things out of there. But certainly it's it's pointed you in a direction that you've followed a and I think that follows your natural abilities and talents so and I think that's the beautiful part about education So I heard that I heard you knew what you wanted. You took advantage of resources. You also looked for. Other resources scholarships super important. I think that's the big thing. A lot of people don't know military spouses is that you can take you being a funding. That's out there. It's not military focused funding even though you can absolutely take care of your take advantage of your spouse's Gi bill if he or she so chooses to give that to you. Fortunately my spouse was very generous in the fact that he gave me his Gi Bill. And I will. I'll never be able to repeat and maybe I will but I feel like that was such a great gift. and But you can take advantage of things like that so definitely knowing that there are other resources to pay for things was definitely important and then I think the big thing that I loved about what you say I loved it all but one of big things I loved about what you said. Is that you re you recognized. You can do it a little at a time because I've talked about. It's kind of a theme. That ends up coming up when I talked to military spouses is if you've been out of the game for a little while or if you don't know where to go everybody wants to go go go. We're very ambitious people military spouses and I know you know so and everybody wants to do everything all the time and you want to go on. Everybody says you're supposed to finish college in four years. You're supposed to do things in certain timelines and honestly you know. That's not always realistic when it comes to what we do for a and what our life looks like having children etc etc so. I love that you looked very realistically at your life in at the things that were required at that time and said Okay I can ease into it one class at a time and that it allowed you to build your confidence because that's certainly another thing. I see military spouses. Struggle with is the to get back into education or get back into the into the workforce so I love that that message What are all was kind of advice already? But what are some other things that you would tell military spouses who are hoping to restore or to grow their professional careers during active duty life with whether it's related to education or just overall self preparation so definitely getting involved in your community is a and I see that we can do to? You can also help build confidence but it. Back into the workforce so if you volunteer. There's so many different positions and different entities your involvement. Here in a in your house and outside of your military installation as well so you can build your skills that way as well. Those are resume builders when you go step. Ill like for instance. I'M IN THE COMMUNICATIONS field volunteer. That local news agent or newspaper volunteer at the PEO's off is if they allow Doing internship extreme. Gyp is you want to get into the medical so I'll volunteer at the Red Cross. Go take those kind of that experience in that you want to go to as a very important also is aligned with getting. Your education is self care. That's something that I alluded for so many years. Because I wasn't taught that I wasn't hot to take CARE OF MYSELF. I will talk to take your other equal in so I didn't even know how that looked or how to do. It is so taking care of myself with something that I had to learn along the way you can be a great mobs. You Great White. You could be a great husband or grace thousand general but you can still take care of yourself. You can do that to taking care of yourself not take away from other people and this is something that I hadn't learned the hard way I wasn't taking care of myself every I had to everyone else and ultimately I lost myself and I had I had no sense of self worth is so aiming that back or keeping it is something that's very important to your transition back into the workforce acting to Education absolutely awesome. I love that and I've loved learning about your experience because what a great story you have when agree timeline that you have an and I love that year disagreed example to military spouses overall. Is someone who has come through a lot of different struggles personally and achieve so tell us one more thing. I'm GonNa ask you is. What are some things that you're working on right now? And and how can people get in contact with you so some of the things? I work on Working on right now is I'm in the process a riding my children's but and I actually My daughter is an artist. She's seven years old and she's won a lot of awards for her illustrations. So I am actually going to ask her to illustrate my book for me is out at in. It's about a little girl who was homeless but wanted to achieve her dreams Oh I super excited about that In I just love to incorporate my children in things that I'm doing. I operate them cheering. I'd probably teach them to stay with the world. Health and world of is as my biggest thing so another time doing is I advocate for people in need for homeless people Through I companies Project we pass out products in basic care items to people in need In so we've been working with a lot of different Of organizations out there and so the community and just to you know empower those communities to not only help homeless people or the people in need but to also empower them so that they can help yourselves in futures itself as a manner as another project. I'm working on outside of me being a brighter. Which is a real job. Absolutely actually add when you spoke about being. I drink. I actually had I had an experience. Were I talked to in an Employment Assistance Office? And we were talking about She helps people find POPs in so I just went in there and I was just having small talk conversation with him and he's like I can help you get into education. You want a D- WanNa do for a living outside. I WanNa be a writer. He's like yeah. That's not a career field only lousy everything is item. You wanted to buy every magazine. Written Oregon. Every Book IRA and all the articles I rented like. Oh that's interesting around was kind of. It was kind of interesting to hear how people who get work. Assistance could give guidance For people of China Obtain Employment View. Certain Don's is Al's pretty interesting to me but that's actually what I do. I'm actually a writer by trade. Might have a basket communication and that is what I do. I love it. Yeah absolutely I. I feel like we've run into maybe similar people in life because I yeah and I think that that is a good fair word of warning when you're out there working with different service providers is that they're not great at or that they have. They don't have good intentions. But you know I was remember. We talked about those those dream. Crushers out there. Some people will guide you based on their own internal limitations for themselves. I think that's always important to step back. And acknowledge that maybe that person is limited in their own scope of what it is they think is possible and not Judge Them. Not yet on them. Then you just go okay but clearly being a writer is a possible thing because Marlin writer and I love that eventually. I will be a legit writer for now. I'll keep working on the other things. I'm working on and keep writing on the side but anyway well thank you so much for all of that graded by things for sharing your story. Most of all And I am trying to end more episodes of the podcast with asking people what they are grateful for today. So what is the thing that you're grateful for today so today as I spoke earlier I live in Fort Drum New York and so today I am grateful for the sunshine today. People don't it son very often. There's usually an overcast rain. Snow or all three cell today have sunshine. I am absolutely over the moon about it. I'm so happy you changes your mood is through such changes your life and I am so happy and I'm still in the sunshine today. I love it. That's a great thing to be thankful for. I'm over in the Pacific northwest still for a few more weeks and Yeah that sunshine is everything. It's like a million dollars being thrown at my front door. I love it eleven so thanks for that Marlin. Thanks for taking the time today awesome. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of so and becoming Marla. I love having you on the show. Now that I'm in Virginia and no longer in Washington state I missing the Pacific Ocean in longing for warm. I hope you are staying. Warm happy healthy and grateful wherever you're listening from and are as inspired as I was marlins energy and her perseverance. I'd love to know what your green light moment was for yourself. You decided it was time to start thinking about getting back to work if you download the APP Flick. 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