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"angie montgomery" Discussed on The Piketon Massacre
"But this isn't about one event it's about fair policing and safe communities business. Roundtable stands with the millions of americans across the nation calling for policing reform. We urge members of congress on both sides of the aisle to continue working together to pass bipartisan policing legislation that can be signed into law before august recess. Paid for by business roundtable. If something tragic happened to you or your family would you want a podcast. Or a documentary about the story of your family's tragedy. Is that helpful. Does that move the needle. I kind of thought about that before. When people won't talk with media you know. I show up on doorsteps and a lot of times. People don't wanna talk and that they have different reasons for that. And i understand that but i always think to myself. Gosh if i lost a loved one. I would probably be doing anything i could to try to bring attention to the key to figure out how it could be solved. So i don't understand how some of the stanley make it through. Know i guess they say settled saying whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger by you through the will some of the people. I just admire their tenacity and their ability to live and move forward. If i were the victim of a crime or a family member of mine victims of crime. I i would want something done anything that could help. Bring some late to the case that would generate louis. There were generate anything that would lead to the truth being uncovered and somebody being held accountable. I was always info transparency. Thought why would anyone ever partake in a crime documentary or podcasts. And working in this podcast in particular. It made me realize that people who didn't know the victim don't speak for them or speak about them. Then we're just going to get the story wrong. It's impossible to know the intricacies of someone's life hearing it secondhand through you know through an article or youtube video so in doing that. I think being able to hear details about dana wrote in being an incredible mother and hard worker. Like that's what paints the picture and makes you care court. What about you. So something from last week really stuck out in the case of curtis jennifer forget angie montgomery has been tirelessly tirelessly looking for resolution that has yet to come and one thing she said and this was even in dealing with law enforcement was. Hey guess what. The squeaky wheel gets attention and can reinvigorate an investigation. And you don't know if you're walking around in town and the person guilty of murder of your loved one is checking you out of the supermarket so to be able to bring attention to what is paralyzing. Many families in unknown grief and just not knowing. I think that's really important. I sort of feel strongly that if somebody has experienced something very traumatic and the rest of us are not made aware of it from a human perspective in that we are not forced to really care about it and get mad about it and make sure it doesn't continue to happen again then. Maybe that's not okay either. We're all sort of connected by the stories. We share good and bad and some of these being so wildly extreme. I would always say if something happened to me or my family. Please please do a podcast. Or a documentary or shout from the rooftops that we did this in our good times and that whoever did this to us would be brought to justice and then i pose the same thing to joseph here years ago. I attended the first grandson on over bentiu as guest of people that were present in there. I was on panels. And all that sort of thing. And i didn't really know what to think about it. You know because when i think about something says khan in it always thinking about people dressing like cartoon characters you know and living out these alternative universes you know that they kind of exist in private lives and that sort of thing so i didn't know what to expect and i got there you know and as an old investigator Have people know that would approach me and they call me up at night. You know late night while it'd be there on desk at the emmys office in atlanta and they'd say looking for my mom she's been missing ten years and entertain sending people years and years and listen to their stories and they just want somebody to talk to. But this took on a different tenor from me. When i was there. Something that kind of hunch me that gut. These people were showing up and they weren't just true. Cram fans they were flying. All the way from places like seattle and these people would show up and they had files papers and there would walk up to bus tears in their us. Say please. can you help me. My sister was raped in dallas. Texas in nineteen seventy five. It killed my parents is still unsolved. Please help and they're openly weeping. You know and i was. I found myself in that moment. Tom surrounded by people like this. And there's this great unknown and unseen massive people out there that are not served and the reason they're not served is because right now as we speak don somewhere right now or across the nation and there are people that are in mourning. And can you imagine always being in morning and never being sock lot of people closure. A heat had the opposite because no one ever gets closure and a homicide. It doesn't happen. They just want answers. So you know for me personally. Yeah got bit. You know that anything would happen to me mine. I'd say yeah. Let the hod come with a hair. You know do it. I mean if it's going to bring about information not closure closures something that's abstract if it brings about more information's going.
"angie montgomery" Discussed on The Piketon Massacre
"The files collected by paula horn contained not only air corn statements but accounts from other witnesses about the native curtis francis and jennifer gets murders. What i was reading on them was unbelievable. There were witness statements out of an investigative files in the pike. County sheriff's office contained in this box of records to this box records contained every document. That somebody like me could only dream of having when you start investigating a murder. That's ten years old at that point in time and what she had in her possession documents that ultimately provided a whole lot of answers for jimmy's family. We win every shred of paper in this case file. I made sure. I understood who every person was who these players are how they were connected. Next job was then to go talk to the victims families. So i went to judy conley. Who is kurt francis. His mother jody bar revealed some of the other statements taken by police in their investigation into kurt. Jennifer's murderer to the family. These accounts however seemed to contradict what era corn initially told authorities. Here again. angie. Montgomery one statement is from a gentleman whose house courtesy was at the night that he got murdered. He stated that his brother and his friend eric corn had left after curtis had left about ten thirty or eleven and took a rifle off the wall and went in killed curtis jenny and that they came back with bloody clothes in the shower took a shower. Got the blood. Often them took their clothes out in the yard and put them in a black trash bag in burnt them all at the command of his mother. Because apparently curtis owed the mother's fiance. Three hundred dollars is what i was told. And then there's another statement and they told the same story that they took a rifle off. The wall came back. Bloody took a shower bird. Close eric. corn denies any and all involvement in curtis and jennifer's murders. Jody bar knew that the information he had could help track down curtis and jennifer killers. But there was one problem. Jody couldn't get any more information from investigators. We can't pull the records in this case. They're all under seal. This is still considered although it's cold it's attending open investigation regardless of whether investigators are actively working or not. These are not records. You can get a hold of under the open records. Act so what you have at that point. The only thing you have are the witnesses and family members who may have been in contact or who may have remembered something from from back when this began. But i knew there was something here. I just had to get somebody from the family to work with us to help us. Then all the sudden this guy was huge. Winter jacket walks in from the backyard and greasy. He's been working on a car. And it's paul francis. His brother is kerr trances and judy. Introduces us and i tell him why why i am there. In his whole demeanor changed he looked angry. And i'm thinking okay. This is this going to be one of those where i get hauled out of the by collar belt loops and paul tells me is. Let's get your car. i've got something to show you. So get the car and we drive from his home over to win road and he walks me out to the edge of the property and he says this is a well and then he starts telling me the story about the story that this well told that he just happened to find. Paul jody that in july of twenty sixteen. He was doing the plumbing job at the same house on winn road that curtis was last seen at the night of his murder in two thousand six. By this point the previous owners had moved out doing plumbing work. So he sees a waterline running outside with an electrical wire running out alongside the pipe. So he's trying to pull this water lineup and it gets to a point where he he can't pull it up out of the ground any longer so then starts pulling this electrical wire and it snakes across the yard and it goes down a hill under a pile of junk in the yard as you described it and he digs down in. He finds this well. Shaft paul told me in the back of his mind and suspicion was that this could hold some sort of answer to his brothers. It sister-in-law's murder. You told me. He had a gut feeling about it. So paul francis called the pike county sheriff's office into investigate by two thousand sixteen. The department was headed up by charlie reader who as we know would later be jailed on charges related to corruption in office at the moment when an twenty six. What were you guys feelings about. Charlie reader were you hopeful. Yeah you're hopeful with every new. Sheriff he also had his hands full because the road and massacre had just happened. We knew that resources were probably stretched. But we also thought the bci the fbi. They're already down here in our county that gave us a little bit of hope of maybe The sheriff will say something and and pick up on this too. We were very hopeful that he would do something and something would happen. So the sheriff. Charlie reader paid a local plumbing company to run on plumbers camera down the well they were able to capture images of a handgun ant then this lever action rifle been that is very similar to the gun that air corn described in his two thousand eight letter that he sent his mom from prison. Let's stop here for another quick break. We'll be back in a moment. Okay so i gotta tell you about shopping at home sense. Oh yeah. I need to check that out. Is it good. It's better than good. trust me. it's a whole new way to shop. Maybe even life changing seriously. Oh yeah see. Home sense is part of the homegoods family. So you know going in that everything will be less than you expect to pay. I love that. 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"angie montgomery" Discussed on The Piketon Massacre
"Pike and massacre returned to county a production of iheartradio and katie studios. You've got all these scenarios in your head. I think this may have happened her navy. They did this. Every family of a murder victim does that you lay in bed and you think what happened. Why did they do this to did this. There's someone out there roaming around that killed two people that you could be standing beside in the grocery store and scary is the pike massacre returned to pay county season two episode ten hopper road. I'm courtney armstrong a television producer at katy studios stephanie. Lie decker and jeff shane over the course of producing this series. We've spoken to several members of the road and family because of a gag order and impending trials for the wagner family. They have been unable to go on record but earlier this year. One member of the family told us that her friend a pie. Tin resident named angie montgomery wanted to share a story about her own family and a loss they had suffered some years back. Coincidentally that same week a listener wrote in asking about that exact case so for this bonus episode as gear up to the season finale. Next week we decided to look into it. Angie perhaps more than most people can empathize with with. The roads are going through when we spoke to angie. She had just heard about jake. Wagner's plea deal in the road murder case. This news hit angie especially hard. She told us that she immediately reached out to her. Rodent family friend. I remember texting her just telling her. I was sorry that had to hurt so bad knowing that you sat down to eat christmas dinner with these people. You went to church with these people. So i can't imagine finding that out. Angie reflected back on the day. The bodies of eight members of the rodent family were found. I think we lost our innocence. That day we lost our wholesomeness our trust. We lost everything it was like you weren't a days this is happening. Your like where am i living. What's going on here. it's crazy angie's bewilderment is no doubt informed by her own tragic loss ten years before the road and family was gunned down. Her cousin curtis francis and his fiancee. Jennifer forget were also murdered and pike county. Angie spoke with producer. Chris graves about it. I know this probably hard. But can you describe for me. What happened to curtis jennifer on december. Ninth two thousand. Six curtis at his friend's house visiting he had been drinking that day and having a little bit of fun and jennie had came down and told him that he needed to get home and he laughed about ten thirty that night and went home and his mother talked to him before he went to bed. Belt midnight. I think in jenny had talked to a friend. I think about eleven thirty so they were going to bed and the next day. Nine one one call came in that genie's.