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Ali-Frazier: The Fight of the Century 50 Years Later

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Ali-Frazier: The Fight of the Century 50 Years Later

"Till phase joe frazier. I'm assault real world champion. Is we want to sell it with all over. You'll get your taken from. They called it the fight of the centuries fifty years ago. Today undefeated mohammed. Ali's off against undefeated. Joe frazier in madison square garden. The hottest ticket tout with the world heavyweight championship on the line the fight transcended sports capturing the entire planets attention and today a man who knows more about this fight than i will ever know about anything. Espn's jeremy schaap tells us why a half-century lab ali frazier one has yet to be. I'm pablo story. It's monday march eighth. This is espn. Jeremy it's great to talk to the only person. I know who i believe has childhood photographs of themselves with muhammad ali. You should be my sister. She does as well pablo. Yeah no i do. It's my claim to fame. Jeremy schaap hosts e sixty and outside the lines. He studied and written about boxing for decades in one thousand. Nine hundred seventy four. When ali was preparing to head to zaire to fight. George foreman my father at the time was the editor of sport magazine And and he had a long relationship with ali going back to before the nineteen sixty olympics. They were close and for this cover shoot for sport magazine. Previewing the rumble in the jungle. ali was dressed up to safari outfit with a pith helmet on the whole deal and i went to the shoot my sister and i was probably just about to turn five and got some good pictures of muhammad playfully a knocking us in the head. It's cool i grant you. You know if there's one person you can have a picture of nineteen seventy four is a little kid sports enthusiasts such as myself it would be mohammed ali. Yes yes so. I'm actually here jeremy. Because i want you to jump in the time machine with me. I want to go back to before. That photograph was taken all the way back to march eighth. Nineteen seventy-one fifty years today because that's the day. Muhammad ali and joe frazier. They're about to walk into the ring. For what would always be known as the fight of the century. And when i say that phrase to you now the fight of the century what comes to mind. I was asked this question recently. Like if i could pick one sports moment to been present at ever in the history of the world. What would it be for me. It would be march. Eighth nineteen seventy-one at madison square garden. Because mostly it's ali who is the most compelling figure in the history of sports because he was the undefeated heavyweight champion lineal heavyweight champion whereas joe frazier was a couple years. His junior was the undefeated tischler champion who to send it to the championship. After ali was banished from boxing nineteen sixty seven for refusing induction into the armed forces so two men with legitimate claims to heavyweight championship at a time in our country around the world when being the heavyweight champion of the world was still the biggest thing in sports and these were two of the all time greats and so there is the thrill of the unknown. They've never faced each other for neither of them has fought anyone as formidable as the other. Before and beyond the actual combat in the ring beyond the dd athletic component of this story there is the backdrop in there is the significance because of what these two men represent the time period. More broadly in america that we're talking about it feels like the word volatility jeremy kind of under sells it. How would you begin to explain what the country was like. At that point the war is still raging in vietnam. All of the culture wars of the nineteen sixties are still being fought. Were just a few years removed from the assassinations martin. Luther king junior and robert kennedy. This is a fraught time in american history when the forces of change and progress are building but there is still quite a lot of resistance of course and muhammad ali to millions upon millions of americans. Still this threatening figure play oh mohammed ali. Whatever he wants to fall himself is a disgraced at the nation. He is not the muhammad ali who was awarded the presidential medal of freedom. Someone who lit the olympic torch. I'll e changed in the world caught up too but this is before all that and there is no figure in the history of sports who provoked reactions this strong outside the ring at the time. Jeremy how would you begin to describe. Who muhammad ali was as a public figure mohammed. Ali was This is a simplification a controversial figure. He was a lightning rod. He was the world heavyweight champion beginning in one thousand nine hundred sixty four with a stunning upset against sunny listed favor graded on and he defends the title successfully gets with a quick knockout in lewiston maine the following year. Nineteen sixty five in one thousand nine hundred sixty six thousand nine hundred sixty seven. He is transcendent heavyweight but he is controversial because he has dared to change his name from cassius clay to mohammed ali. He joined the nation of islam. He's become an acolyte of its leader. Elijah muhammad and elijah muhammad's lieutenant malcolm x. He is dared to white society by promoting black empowerment and then in nineteen sixty seven. He refuses induction in the armed forces. He takes a principled stand He doesn't want to go to vietnam and four it. He loses his title and he spends the next three years in boxing. Exile in millions upon millions of people hate him for the decisions that he has made while moment because of the drought lot more will because of religion lot of woman because some black and now he's coming back now after his exile. He's got his license again and he is going to take back the championship. There was stolen from him. So i want to get a better sense of who. Ali was at the time as a fighter. Jeremy in march of nineteen seventy-one. Who was he in the ring at that point. Well we were learning right. It was a it was a little bit of a mystery. He had had two fights since returning from his banishment. You know he's banned in nineteen sixty seven. He's back boxing. Starting in one thousand nine hundred seventy and it starts off with fight against jerry quarry in always impressive and then he fights ostra bone avena a tough awkward unconventional argentinian heavyweight. And it's not that pretty from hamad. Ali certainly one polly is hurt in trouble ending the fight against bone of which he does but the ali who is still in. The mind's eye of the public is the ali we saw from nineteen sixty four thousand nineteen sixty seven when he was this remarkable unprecedented type of heavyweight. He six foot two six foot. Three two hundred fifteen pounds and he is lightning fast. He's like sugar. Ray robinson fast but he's fifty pounds heavier. No one's ever seen anything like it and he ceased to exist in banishment He was diminished. When he came back he was a different kind of fighter. Young ali is giving three four punches for everyone. He takes the ali who comes back in one thousand nine hundred. Seventy is taking more than giving. Nobody knew who he was stepping into the ring that night and so in the other corner. Jeremy yes is joe frazier. Who is he as a fighter as a public figure. In contrast joe frazier champion. The world undisputed like ali one and olympic gold medal. He'd want his gold medal in nineteen sixty four in tokyo ed. He's a tough philadelphia fighter. He embodies the boxing. Ethos of that city the relentlessness. He's always moving ahead. He's always coming after you. And he's unusual in respect to that his his best weapon is this fearsome left talk. I'll open about fair to say there aren't many iconic left boxing history and joe frazier's left hook is one of the legendary weapons scoring. It's not artistry its power in so stylistically. He and ali are diametrically opposed as so. What was their shared. History jeremy with each other at this point it's complicated because they didn't have a history in the ring together and by the time frazier's emerging as a professional. Ali is in banishment. There are stories that at this time. they've been disputed. I'm not sure whether they're true. That when ali was was out of boxing and short on funds that frazier gave him some money some people. It happens when people say it didn't happen but i'll lee ali. Is he saying things about frazier that are how do i put this unkind. These ugly to be the world heavyweight. I'll leases showman who i can withdraw this shocking. But i retired. You're in. Ali has always said these kinds of things about his opponents. How did it bill. Tell but with frazier. frazier's very proud guy. He's not someone who is comfortable selling a fight with his mouth. The way that mohammed ali was and although ali you could argue he was saying the things that he was saying about. Joe frazier calling him ignorant and calling him an uncle. Tom and all of these hateful things ali in his mind was doing it. I think to sell fights but that that wasn't good enough for joe frazier. I was talking to larry holmes about this. The other day heavyweight champion who's a sparring partner for both of them and he said frazier heated ali for gaba joe to wanted to respect. He didn't get between that's why he was trying to kill him in. Of course you can imagine from joe frazier's perspective right. He wanted his respect to and he was the world heavyweight champion. being the world. Heavyweight champion is is supposed to bring prestige and respect and deference in. That certainly wasn't coming from muhammad ali jeremy in terms of the psychology of the public and who they wanted to win who they were rooting for. How did that breakdown across society. The way it's been explained for half a century is fairly accurate. People who consider themselves the establishment people who had supported the war effort people who were threatened by By african american empowerment will rooting against muhammad ali. There's no question that muhammad ali was the preferred choice of black america. And i think there's little doubt that joe frazier was the preferred choice of white america with obviously Big caveats large segments of the population that that loved ali who were white and who might have represented youth move bids the counterculture people who were against the war in. That's why why this fight rises above year athletic contests something even more significant and would have been significant enough just to see these two guys fight each other okay coming up the grand spectacle of fight night and what happened in the ring. Carmax is taking car buying confidence that the next level with their new love. Your car guarantee now you can take your time to make sure you found the perfect car for you. Starting with a twenty four hour test drive drive to work to school and to the grocery store before you buy and if it feels right you've got a full month and fifteen hundred miles to keep on driving with their new thirty day money back guarantee. It's the new love. Your car guarantee from carmax learn more today at carfax dot com So when the date gets set in the venue is picked and it's announced that they're going to do this thing and madison square garden in the middle of the beating heart of new york city. Jeremy and nine hundred seventy one. What was the buildup to the fight. Like it's the most height. Sports events ever heavyweight boxer. Joe frazier mamadali meet. A new york's madison square garden. Monday night what one promoter all the biggest bites and kane banged with able to the djinnit heavyweight champions with legitimate claims to the title neither of whom has ever been defeated representing different sections cohorts of our society. The interest was there but they built it. They built it. They built it to a kind of boiling point at which everyone wanted to see. All right jeremy so here. We go march eighth nineteen seventy-one fifty years ago exactly today and the electricity is coursing through madison square garden. And i have heard myth and legend about this building on this night in particular. So what was that scene like. It was an unprecedented see. It was wild. The the celebrities frank sinatra is ringside shooting for life magazine. Apparently because he couldn't get a good ticket so he takes this aside. Don't understand how sounds crazy. pablo will. They're they're just you know. This is the ticket. I would argue that. This is the ticket at this point in the history of the world. So even even frank had competition this event. Burt lancaster near the star of from here to eternity. He's calling the fight on the closed circuit production with don dunphy. In a moment we should be seeing joe rasiah just a moment. I think we'll be seeing joe frazier. It is characteristic as you know for the challenger which is a position that mohammed ali is in now. I love burt lancaster but he doesn't do a great job. You know diana ross is there. Dustin hoffman is. There are bruce rice is there. Diane carroll is their bill cosby's they're talking to the press before the fight. The biggest stars in the world have converged on west thirty third street to see this fight to be there in anyone. Who's anyone in new york and beyond wants to be there. It's nineteen seventy-one so if you go and look at the picture. I mean the out vehicle. The first jeremy their extraordinary right extraordinary totally politically incorrect. Yeah of course. They all have to be so i but they were real then and they are earnings and they are minks they are fox's and everyone is wearing them in the world is coming as you said to a stop to pause for an hour to watch this all over the world. People were watching it. I think i think the estimates are that more than three hundred million people watched the fight either that night or in the following days. Well how could they watch this thing. Jeremy because the us population at the time by the way two hundred million or so. How could you watch this thing. If you did not have a ticket there were if not hundreds if not thousands at least hundreds of theaters around the country that were showing it on the technology at the time that was called closed-circuit being crosby couldn't get hitting crosby is being shut out bing crosby watched it at radio city music hall. You know basically three quarters of a mile northeast because at a theater. The enormous radio city music hall theatre because he couldn't get a ticket to madison square garden And that's how thousands of people around the us were watching it and in other parts of the world is well on closed-circuit and i. I hate to harp on this because he was so great but unfortunately they're listening to burt. Lancaster work. Because he was a friend of the promoter. Jerry perenco he got the gig. Great voice create pipes. But but wasn't doing it in poor archie moore auty about that from break former light. Heavyweight champion is the third man in the who'd barely got a word in edgewise. Tell me go ahead. Don you want to saying now. I think the johnny attias is about doing heisler Not we'll be back to you in just a moment his okay so all across the planet. Everybody is engaging in one of the honestly impossible. Monocultural moments that we've ever seen what happened. What did people see when the bell ray leads my i. I just watched the fight again last night. It is. it's stunning. How much action takes place without dads. Don't don't forget that you're to two hundred and fifteen pounds for ali. Two hundred and five pounds for joe frazier and the action is non stop. Y'all looked like a training session. Especially in the first ten rounds barring everything on there now in joe frazier he just never stops coming punishing. He keeps coming keeps moving ahead. They wanna get this year. Joyeux combat a white. Joe frazier does moving forward circling outlook not even circling. Just plowing. Right into throwing punch after punch after punch the first two or three rounds. I think you could fairly argue. Ali one to three of them. You could also argue. That frazier won two out of three of them. Were all three of them. But all these ali looks like he's not really up on his toes fighting in the style of muhammad ali of nine hundred sixty five nine hundred and sixty six. He's throwing flurries. He's he's quick in the action is just Metabolism of it is is spectacular. One point i've never seen a base like this ever seen a basket cup of low and after six rounds ali. Kind of visibly loses steam. A little disgusted with himself. But he's money. I i'd say he's having a hanley when you're watching thing. He's running out of steam. You one of the people. I interviewed with gene kilroy. Who's ali's longtime business manager manager. Was there in the corner with him that night and he said look you know he wasn't gonna be joe frazier that night. I tell everybody that night at at fight. Nobody nobody would be joe frazier. I don't care if all he came into ringwood anger dates. Fraser was in zone. Nobody would have beat them. That's the way it looks now. Of course that's hindsight that's knowing that frazier merges with the victory. But when you're watching the fight you know how sometimes pablo you watch like the nfl from one thousand nine hundred seventy or the nba from one thousand nine hundred seventy or baseball. Everything looks slow. Yeah like you're playing against like postmen or something. Yeah you're the the bat moves more everything. Just look slow here. It looks sped up. It does to me. Maybe i'm romanticizing it. I've a tendency to do that with these historic fights but he just it just seems elevated so it is worth noting jeremy that fights in modern times they stop at twelve rounds due to safety concerns and health concerns but in this one we get deep into the fifteenth and frazier is leading on the scorecards and does the fight of the century. Come to an at well. You really have to go back to the end of eleven. So at the end of the eleventh round frazier's throws to use the horry cliche. A textbook left hook it. I mean it lands slush on mohammed ali's jaw ali stagger. I mean he. He's lipstick emmy you think he's going down in somehow. He steadies himself. He is brought in a way that he's never been but then the left hooks. Just keep coming the keep coming and and is the fight is winding down in fifteenth round. The final round of the white fight back says the referee. I'm as important. Air frazier lands not as big as the one in the eleven. Th this is fifteen minutes later and the muhammad ali around eleven history and he goes down. Goes down for a split second. I don't know how he got up. he gets up. he goes down. It's a knockdown but he gets right back up. Standing eight count comes back out in the fans. So frazier is the winner of the fight of the century by unanimous decision. Did that feel controversial. At the time. What was the mood around the outcome. I think everybody agreed. That frazier when the fight. I think mohammed ali news. The frazier won the fight. It didn't stop him from going around and saying that he thought he'd won the fight and insisting that he'd won the fight and fighting as you put it with an alternate set of facts. But joe frazier won that fight and in the moment again for people didn't have replays. Lean on they didn't have sportscenter highlight packages to watch. You know you had to see in the moment no one could have. I think argued that muhammad ali. Joe frazier won that fight coming up how we remember the fight of the century and its place in the culture and history of the united states whether you have a long to do list for work or a list of diy projects to tackle at home. Take a five hour energy shots. You can check everything off of your list. 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Energy dot com. Today you know just dwell on one small wa fellas if you picked up the papers tomorrow if you didn't see the fight and your joe frazier won a unanimous decision. You might think it was nothing and it was far from that because it was so close. So that's the verdict at the time. But as you know jeremy as the sands of time begin to wash over our memories. Funny things happen. What's your sense of how people remember ali now given the context of specific fight. Look i think bert sugar. Put it best. The famous boxing historian and writer said you know the winner lost and the loser one not just in people's memories but which which i think is the case but but in terms of where they stood even at the time i mean I'll he didn't just win because people remember it It a certain way which is unfair to frazier. But he won because even the people who loathed him even the people who hated him for changing his name from what he called his slave name to a muslim name the people hated him for converting for joining the nation of islam. The people hated him for refusing induction for criticizing the war effort. They had to concede everyone had to concede did not only could mohammed ali take panch but he withstood an incredible that night in the context of boxing in the context of what those guys do in the way that people thought about it. Muhammad ali quitted himself honorably and and he brought honour to the sport into himself by by taking that punishment by withstanding the onslaught and showing everyone year. The questions he wins all these fights quick knox in knockouts and he's always joking around in the ring and he doesn't take it seriously disgraces the sport. nobody could say that after march eighth nineteen seventy-one. Nobody could say that with a straight face in. That's why he wins. This fight do jeremy for the trajectory. His career his public. Persona the trajectory of joe frazier going forward from there for joe frazier yards spectacular moment in yet even in the moments he knew that he would never escape the shadow of mom and he expressed that i think jerry izenberg great from the star. Ledger covered boxing. So long rise up from last week. I think joe said those exact words to him in the days after the fight shows to me sure. The tape told me short. Fear for you know it happened. You know. I wanna fight so you tell me what i got to do what they now. I got to do to get out of this guy. Shadow prophetic huge remained in allie shadow. His whole life knee answer is of course there was nothing he could do looking back at this now. Jeremy it's this perfect storm of sociology and politics and religion and athletics. All of this combined into one thing if you tinker with any parts of that equation who the fighters were the climate politically. The venue even do you think. This event is still such a massive part of american cultural history. No it's it's it's the perfect storm. I think you're right. The story is still muhammad ali but because it was joe frazier he lost so that changes it and i think gives it more layers in more depth and more meaning and beyond that it makes what happens in zaire in october. Nineteen seventy four more significant reclaiming the championship as an older man as a distinct underdog. The whole trajectory of it right. It's like the butterfly effect. Whatever it is like if you change any of it the the ark of the greatest career in the history of sports is alter. What if ali wins. Then there's no great upset against foreman. If ali wins former doesn't beat frazier whole the whole thing is is thrown out of wack But but you're talking about the bigger stuff. Frankly and that's the societal stuff. The significance the way. These guys were proxies for This culture war that was still at its very peak the hardhats versus the hippies All of that. You know the unfolding in new york and everywhere else in in a in a country in which you know richard nixon was president and george mcgovern was about to be nominated to run against him. I mean you can't maybe maybe twenty twenty proves me wrong but you could basically get more different than that right and and here are these two guys. Were fighting as as representatives ali. Consciously think frazier less consciously of these of these warring parties. I've been a lot of big sports events. You have two world cup finals. More people are watching were numbers but they're not invested the way they were in this to people. This is boxing. This is the hardest thing in sports trying to knock out the guy across the ring when he's that skilled in that strong and that well condition and to stand in there for fifteen rounds do what the two of them did. I don't know to me it's moving. I'm jealous i get to be there to cover it. I didn't get to cover these guys. You guys got into this business. I think to cover sports in a way that transcends just going on on the field but also to be there for the big moments right in into to to be present history into accord it and and it was impossible for anyone to dismiss this. Oh it's just a fight. This is just sports. This is ali frazier. One and two jeremy schaap. Thank you for sharing how much the fight of the century means. It's my pleasure pablo. I wish we could have been there. They gave all the media these red cap so that they instantly identified. Not just mixing in with the crowd. I wish i wish we could have been there together. It would have been been something. It would have been my honor to ride on your shoulders and where a giant trenchcoat and try to sneak into madison square garden. I'm pablo torre. This has been espn.

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The Sporting Life: 6/7/19

The Sporting Life with Jeremy Schaap

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The Sporting Life: 6/7/19

"Welcome to the sporting life with Jeremy Shaab. Over the next hour on the twenty fifth anniversary of the Houston Rockets, nineteen Ninety-four championship Hakim Elisha, Juan joins the show. Hillary fresh the my amazement detained in twenty five years. All this game was a game. Patrick, you know, I know much of maintain and hopefully and author Mark Kram takes us inside one of the most heated rivalries in sports history, Muhammed, Ali versus Joe Frazier. They brought out the best of each other inside the ring and the worst of each other outside the rig, and I want to take them in the challenges that created for Joe and the question I had for everyone is this animosity that he had built up over the years toward alley something that he took his brave. Did he come to a place of peace about? This is the sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Here's Jeremy chef. Welcome to another dishes sporting later in the show. I'll be speaking with Mark Pran. His new book is biography of smoking, Joe Frazier where the greatest heavyweights of all time. But I on the twenty fifth anniversary of the Houston Rockets first championship we speak to the man who is the heart and soul of that team. The MVP of the finals, both nineteen ninety four and nineteen ninety-five the hall of fame center, a team allies one keen. Thanks for being with us. Thank you. One of the beer looking back now a quarter century later. Well, what are your most vivid memories of that run in one thousand nine hundred four when you guys won in the finals against the Knicks? Because the memory is just so fresh in the mind. It's amazing to say been twenty five years. You know, I just I just been remember. O eill physical. The game was spaghetti again. Patrick. You know, I know my. We saw maintain than Oakley. Maybe people team. Now. We have what he's talk. You know what's already, so both teams much of so will, and it was very, very tough Motamed defensively and offensively. And of course, we're speaking with the key Malaysia on the hall of fame center for the Houston Rockets, while side and outstanding career at the university of Houston team reaching four final fours in his time there under guy, Lewis. I'm sorry, three final fours of it. And of course, you know, that finals, the NBA finals in ninety four was a rematch of sorts for you and Patrick from the finals, the in the NCAA championship in nineteen Eighty-four in a grudge match. How would you describe your relationship with Patrick? Well, I mean, much real. So proud. Oh my freshman year in the final close together in New Orleans. Well, you think your chance to play because most to come at it? Because game did lows the final Michael Jordan team. Yeah. So we went into furnace bolt together that time and I've watched he's career because we still close. Style of basketball shot locker rebound on dominion, Santa. So that was my focus when I when I was at college I look up to. You know, did you guy when I see him? I see myself pretty safe style between game. So we finally met in the finals was a different experience too big. So he told me the big man. I know of course, they one college then ten years of, you know, we get to be the game you know. So it was very, very gratifying, for me that this time it was my to win. We're speaking with chemo allies, you on one of the greatest basketball players ever. Three final fours when his playing at the university of Houston for guy Lewis with Clyde Drexler his teammate in two of those final fours. And then, of course, the back toback NBA titles nine hundred ninety four and nineteen ninety-five I against Patrick Ewing. One of the greatest centers of all time in ninety four when they were playing the Knicks. And then the next year against another word of the greatest centers of all time. She kilo Neil in the Orlando. Magic who'd reach the NBA. Finals? I mean when you talk about those battles Akeem you against Patrick you against Shaquille, the physicality of it, which you mentioned. It's so much different from today's game. Oh. It's kill yuck. That was when it was most younger so very active. So strong coffee giant well you play games team that won about sixty two games. You know, it was amazing. When you look back now I do I do I do come by beating them to sip back on team. And you know, you can't you can't know the back. Company, something that all achievable you know, I'm now the mall, I washed out difficult these to win championship. Made me appreciate how much more, you know, a team about twenty years ago on this show when I was hosting it with my, my father, my father, who's who died in two thousand one we had guy Lewis on, and he told that great story about the first time he laid eyes on you, and we have his perspective on that famous story, the discovery of one of the great basketball players of all time from your perspective, when you get to Houston from Nigeria. What kind of a reception did you get at the airport? Well, both know nobody was better pick. Nobody. Was I called the number would be, which was basketball off his wants to Houston. And I was told there. Okay, I'll tell you tap on. We pay for it gets when it gets here. So was it that's was once I met you coach? And I meant the depends what she's I was. Well, Well, I, I think guy Lewis told us back then Akeem that, you know, he wasn't he was a little skeptical about some of the scouting reports he'd gotten about you. You know, he'd been told that you were terrifically talented, but, you know, he thought maybe some of these reports have been exaggerated, and then he could see you pulling up in the cabin getting out of the cab from the window of his office at the basketball office. And what he actually saw you. He, he ran out to remember it that way. I remember it because the coach Christopher porn. He was. Of course, I discovered me in a jury. But he the course recommended it play out just before from very dweller that he's talking about several food of the pair became it was all like six five. It's only seventy is, of course, of course, was taking me with when when when, when I was covered on TV. I try really taught me in person before he believes that, that, you know, because that's what happened there. Very pleasant surprise. We're speaking with the chemo allies, you on the hall of fame center from the Houston Rockets, who is celebrating the twenty fifth anniversary of his nineteen ninety four championship. I believe that is the only season which any player ever in the NBA has been the league MVP the defensive MVP and the finals MVP, and he'll keep when I was watching you, as a teenager and young adult. And when anyone watched you, one of the things that we will, we were always amazed that was the graceful knit gracefulness with which you played the center position. And the. Incredible moves that you had an and a lot of that was attributed to your, your grounding in the game of soccer growing up in Nigeria. How much did soccer contribute to your success in basketball is that was that was foundation, all the agility doing feel? I don't feel like a big man. So feel comfortable more like a small the big Boise, so they talk. Oh, you know all these has big games that very small and quick. So I grew up playing with quicken guys up. I John, so you think like them. So that really Hugh hughhewitt back on my movement, coast. What my footwork you were in the vanguard of a number of outstanding players who came to the NBA, who came to the US as college players from Africa. Among them, of course, Manute Bol into campaign. Tombo from Sudan, and from Zaire now, the Congo respectively. Why aren't we seeing more great players from Africa in this era? Well, I mean there's tremendous talent. And of course, with the NBA now a global sport, where destinations a lot of players dreams between them beer. How we have other committees raw talent I been trying to develop before. But now, you know, these calls on all over the world, such, you know, so we have a lot of great talented Africa. I can see the difference now other. From the jury from Congo from Ivory Coast from coming ruined. I mean tremendous many more still gonna come on not potentially to come when you watch the game today. And here we are in the middle of the, you know, the NBA finals, and it's changed so much, you know, we, we've got guys like Kevin Durant who are seven feet tall and played the way that he does. And we've got so much, of course, three point shooting, which was really just in its infancy when you were coming into league. How much do you recognize the game as it's played now? I mean we see. Whereas like I should mention you know, for for, for that pay of that size that ball on these skills. So that gives them freedom to be able to create and shoot over, you know he can drive you can put up it can push up. So he's mall compete down. They were defense. And that's always the way I see the game does we I've liked to play the game to be able to play computer games, you can drive, you know you can post up each I'm better than you are. We post you could be. I mean I take you outside. So you have something for everybody. And you know Kevin did on demonstrate the out of the game. I know I saw three point shooters. He's amazing that two points. Dow is gonna lay up. I've seen guys that we'd be on the basket and turnabouts the three points. So I used to think about decision. I would it would make a three. So, you know, I see consistency in the great shooters into this game. Game has changed so much. Yup. Paternity of the polls is available now doesn't change. He's, he's nothing capitalize opponent. Because if you see guys like a real good post game. He's has ever. He's a great Ossets. So this change, those is capitalize on who do you admire for their post play today? Oh. Let's see twenty players don't really kick a bunch of post. I think sure. I those it's not like when it was you and Shaquille and Patrick, and Robert Parish and Kevin McHale. I mean, if you know a time, you know, or if you if you if you jump shots, he's, I mean he's settled you celebrate jumped show. That's easy. Take it easy out because he's always get that he's, he's more difficult to get the ball close to the basket and the paint that's difficult. You get bang. But if you get pushed out. He's always jump shot. But now, when should should've junk show, the big issue, three points. Now, your complimentary it's still. Copay trees where, you know, in our time, you can't be just like you, you, you, are you doing more damage to the team, as a big man, choosing threes, instead of getting hypothermia short under the basket. So give us change from that perspective that these dollars you compliment. But still if you know, the, the court shoot she still wanted to big diet getting I presented short the low, if you can't shoot three points. That's great. That's a compliment, but first of all, the primary position opportunity, he's get a post moves, Dan, because she's outside expunge your game from that push for sticking with the key Malaysian who twenty five years ago, led the Houston Rockets to their first NBA title against the New York Knicks in seven games. And you guys won that title, of course, ninety four you would win the next year. Michael Jordan was out of ask ball, ninety three nine. Eighty four. He came back in ninety four ninety five I guess it was the middle of the season and the magic was kilo neom penny. Hardaway defeated, the bulls in Eastern Conference finals. Do you ever wish that you got to play against Michaels bowls in the finals? Or, or you happy with the way it went. I mean. You say because it was what's out there, but they don't give credit to a London that actually, the bitchy cargo, you know, I was a great steel, and remember the does deal that undescended on Jordan. So he was there. They're lost. You know. So that was in discrediting the championship. But I think for me if I play games or Chicago. If I do. Do we say, okay, you don't have big meeting? So my my contemporary. No, I go China pigging. So all of the I guess the quickest project per day, read a shock, that's Luke off to do you have a contemporary. So pick is Jordan, you know, the interesting but we don't play this position, you know. So I'm very happy with to our championship out. I'll everything went how. I wasn't I was in door in Chicago. I won't ever opportunity because we played them doing regular season. I know we feel very corporate in a comfortable out, of course, is always be offended from playoffs. Well, what do you what do you do? Now, you're you're fifty six now. Is that right Akeem? Yes. You're fifty six you. You've been in the hall of fame for eleven years. You've been out of basketball as a player, obviously, for longtime now where do you find in your life? Now, the kind of fulfillment that you found is a player in basketball where you're just so. Retired from basketball. But still, you know watching the game out of the game consultant with Iraq. It's take care of my business, you know, investment. I like I like I like development Atlanta develop properties build up on Dacian, you know, for. Education. I know the jury pool feeding. Just I feel you know, I'm taking care of children. So I feel Okla by feel. Feel fulfilled. Except when I was about to come on, now I see a guy that just job. I grabbed my knees are paying these just watching the game. That will I woke out thinking that three just they're just contained on that point. Well, Akeem it's, it's really been a pleasure. We've been speaking with the chemo allies one, one of the greatest players in the annals of basketball, or the great gentlemen of the sport is well, two time NBA champion. I can't believe it's been a quarter century Akeem. Thank you so much for joining us, this wording life and reminiscing where your voice decker. This is the sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. The first Ali Frazier fight March eighth, nineteen seventy-one was arguably the biggest sports event. Oh, in the history of the world. The man who won that fight doesn't get nearly as much attention as the man who lost that fight Mark Kram juniors. Trying to rectify that with his new book smoke in Joe the life of Joe Frazier, terrific. New biography of one of the greatest athletes of all time, who is nevertheless, in some ways underappreciated, and it is a pleasure to welcome to the show. One of the best sports writers in the world Mark Kram junior, Mark. Thank you for joining us. Good to be with you, Germany, Mark, you come to this subject. Biologically say genetically true, true. I know the feeling. We have something in common. I think your dad also terrific sports writer. Of course, it Sports Illustrated in its golden age in the heyday covering, Ali covering Frazier writing about their trilogy of fights. Why why did you? How did you make the decision that you wanted to dedicate so much time in such a large part of your life or the last few years to going in depth on smoking? Joe someone that your father had written about so extensively. Right. Dad had written all three alley Frazier. Fights were Sports Illustrated and years later had written the controversial book goes to Manila in two thousand one which was kind of an essay, a stick approach to the two men. But as as time passed and sort of the of the dust settled, I just had a sense that was worth taking a deeper dive into Joe. I wanted to write about him, not just as a fighter but as a man, and perhaps introduce them to a new generation of sports fans. So as much as possible, I want. To build the book on fresh interviews with primary sources, which is to say people who were still living and were around Joe and new amendment, Lee. You know, it was kind of a reporting job as much as a writing exercise when you write about Joe Frazier, inevitably. Of course you're writing about Muhammad ALI'S. Well, but one of the, the purposes, one of the points of doing this is to remove him from the shadow of Muhammad Ali the same. But the same time you have to tell Allie story because they're intertwined, how do you approach that a conundrum? Well, that was that, that was a real challenge, because the point of the book was the uncouple him is story from Allie story as much as possible. But you really can't do that. So you have to leave in the his relationship with Allie, and more or less kind of explain it as you went along and sort of unravel, it sort of take it. Take a bit of a closer look at it. And you know, it's been said, I guess, by other writers that, you know, they brought out the best of each other inside the ring, and the worst of each other outside the rig, and I wanted to examine you know, you know, the challenges that, that, that created for Joe and the question I had for everyone that I interviewed was is this animosity that he had built up over the years toward alley. This is something that he took to his grave, you know, did he did he find? Did he come to a place of peace about it? And I think it was able to answer that question at the end of the book, I think there's a very tender scene there where I think Joe really, really reveals his true nature. We're speaking with Mark cramped junior about his new book smoking. Joe the life of Joe Frazier. Mark won the pen, ESPN award for literary sports writing back at twenty thirteen for his book, like any normal day. Story of devotion. And he brings all of his considerable powers to bear in the telling of the story of the life of Joe Frazier, who was the heavyweight champion of the world. Of course, in that, that golden age for heavyweights. Oh, my there was in, and that's part of the story here is well, it's not just Ali but of course it's fights with form. In the other fights math. Gary quarry quarry. We Joe Frazier. And in that relationship with Ali, though, there was always the question. You know how much of it is just generating interest. How much of it is authentic. How much did they truly understand each other? How much did they actually low the other how much of it was for show will I in the course of, you know, dedicating yourself to writing this book, what conclusions were you able to draw about where selling the fights overlapped into actual hostility? Well, it's an interesting question, because my feeling was that Josiel ings about Ellie waxed and waned over the years? You know there were days where you would catch him, and he would be, you know, he could see the value that from an early early point in his Greek and see the value that Allie help for them financially. And in every other way, but an alley as you know, no one. He was a genius at working the crowd, but I got the sense as time passed that. Allie was only too willing to up the Atty by that. I mean, he would see a crowd, and he would start on his stick about being the greatest, what have you, and he sort of what get the reaction that he was looking for a hoping for, and he would up the ante a little bit. And it really it would lead over into racial invective, that, that really seemed to stimulate, you know, the crowd there's a section in the book or a, a store, a scene in the book that we're allies up at his cap, and he's talking to some you greeting some as fans after whatever's workouts, and he's sort of, you know, going through his thing. And then as soon as he starts calling Frazier guerrilla everybody gets worked up excited. And he's really got him an alleys really got him where he wants it. Well that that did not sit well with Joe, you know, who is basically. He just under didn't understand that. Why Ellie had the go there? Go that far in Ali, of course, also literally went to Philadelphia basically Joe's backyard his powers. And you know came in on his territory it was incredible. I mean. Well Ellie was on exile from the ring of for his stance on the draft. He actually moved to Philadelphia and moved right into Joe's backyard. And, and was always showing up and sort of making a nuisance of himself. And, and it was just, you know, Joe called it his skylark in, you know Allie scholar arkie, and it just got on his nerve. I mean he would show up and, and there'd be scenes in the street, the there was an almost they almost came to blows at one day in north Philadelphia at the gym the cops told them to take it to the park, and, you know, there were like there were thousands of people lining up waiting for Allie Jodo square off in Fairmount park. I mean it was it was an absolute circus, and, you know, Ollie's obviously sold the value in that Allie was understood that, you know, it was much more than just the prizefighter sporting event that he was. The that the two were that the two were heading for. It was a, a international event, and that was alleys gift and genius was that he was able to see things and magnified way. But perhaps Joe wasn't. I leave, you know, Ali was one thing in singular and he represented so much to so many people those who loved him those who hated him Frazier. Almost inevitably becomes his foil and not just in the ring. But in terms of perceptions of what they represented in. There were certainly those used in ugly phrase to refer to Joe Frazier's you write in the book and called him and uncle Tom wit, where did that, where did that come from? Well there was there was Joe was very close to Philadelphia. Mayor Frank Rizzo, any any who was the police Commissioner and later, the mayor, and he was a big boisterous, white man, who, who really planned to power in Philadelphia in the sixties and seventies, and Joe befriended him and became very close to him and through that relationship, he later became friendly with Nixon, and some of the other Republican. Leaders at that time now the Genesis of all this is interesting because. Joe had come up from Buford South Carolina in the fifties late fifties. He was he had on the tail end of the great migration of African Americans to the north and he went to New York and he was kind of getting into trouble. He was the only cars and what have you. Although no record exists that he was ever arrested. His family sent him down to Philadelphia to live with his sister, Martha news, don't as maisy who I spoke with for the book and at that time. Joe was thirty pounds overweight. He couldn't fit into any of his clothes. You really had no direction and maisy suggests that he go to the police athletic league, you know. And she said, if you get into trouble down here, there's nothing I can do for you. But, you know, perhaps, the if you get to know the police in town, you might find a little bit of, you know, get a little bit of guidance from and then that's exactly what happened. He was went to the gym and really kind of gained a great respect for the cops because the cops were good to him. And he sort of had that respect for authority that, you know, was kind of kind of placed him at odds with some of the social wins at the time speaking with Mark Kram junior about his terrific new biography of one of the greatest fighters, while the greatest athletes of the twentieth century, smoking, Joe, the life of Joe Frazier. Of course he was the heavyweight. Champion of the world after Muhammad Ali was banned from boxing, and he retained his undefeated a status as heavyweight champion of the world by defeating Ali on March eighth nineteen seventy one, the first of their three fights arguably the biggest sports event in the history of the world right up there, certainly with Dempsey Tunney to its Soldier Field in nineteen twenty seven that fight in particular was so big, it was such a gigantic cultural moment. And those pictures of Frazier his floral green trunks are burned into our memory, right? What does winning that fight say to us about who Joe Frazier was is a fighter in a man well to begin with one of the fascinations with Frazier? And you could say this rally as well can you think of any athlete, who's put their body on the line? The way they those do did in that fight in all three other fights. Really? And it's an interesting thing, I remember Ali, once saying that if you wanna see me, get beat, don't talk about my religion. Tell me how great I am. You know, butter me up. Well, don't don't talk about my religion don't get me mad. Well, that's exactly what he did with Joe by the time Joe stepped in the ring that night and March of seventy one. No one was going to beat them. No. Not Ali not Dempsey, not low at no one's going to beat him that night. He was so focused and, and ready to go. Now the interesting thing was he, he did win the undisputed title, but there was a lot of he got very upset by the idea that it was he sort of had a it was kind of illegitimate. Hold that he had on the title. It was undisputed because Ali had been forced out of box. Exactly. And he was an alley himself. You know, fed that narrative and almost within twenty four hours of the fight. You know, he was putting that narrative out there that Joe was somehow and illegitimate champion. Well, he would say that he was the greatest on one great champion on one hand. But then the next breath, he would say that there was some legitimacy about his hold on the title. So he was always working Joe working on his. Psyche that way. And Joe Joe particularly found that to be aggravating. You know, I mean the interesting thing, though, is if, if Joe had fought Ali in sixty seven which is a big question that they were trying to arrange it before. Allie, went into the you know, was put it. Zeile I think Ali would have handled Joe fairly easily. I think at that time, so there are meeting at the perfect time in their careers at many ways, speaking with Mark cramped junior, again, about his new book, smokin Joe, the life of Joe Frazier, and it's a terrific book and terrific tribute to one of the most important athletes of all time. But for you, personally, Mark writing this book, is we discussed in our first segment is someone who so closely associated the subject that is Joe Frazier with your father's. Well who died seventeen years ago at the age of sixty nine after his great career? What did it mean to you on a personal level? And how did it connect you with your father again? Well, my dad as you say passed away in two thousand two and he's really never far from my thoughts. You know, we, we were very close and admired him tremendously and his, his work, and, you know, I just never dreamed that I would be doing a book on Joe Frazier. I figured that was his that was his, you know area of expertise and his territory. And you know, editors over the years at asked me to write about Joe, they live. They knew that I lived in Philadelphia. In fact, the book editor in two thousand eight asked me to consider a biography of Joe and I rejected it at the time, but, you know, it was I was sitting in my office about, I don't know four or five years. After Joe died two thousand six two thousand sixteen. I guess it was and I just got the thinking that, you know, if somebody writes, his book, ten years from now, everybody that knew Joe is going to be virtually gone. And they'll have the write the book, they'll have to write the book from clips, you know, and sort of piece it together and not having any first-hand knowledge in, and as soon as I thought of that, you know, I became flooded with chills, I felt like there was it was some sort of cosmic traffic light. That was turning from red degreen, and I just had a sense that my father's spirit was with me, and I'm as I'm talking to you. Now, I have these same chills. I just feel like you know. He just, you know, it was with me every step of the way with this as I said, it's, it's a terrific testament, not only not only to Joe but a dad's legacy as well. If I may say, Mark ram juniors new. Thank you. New biography of Joe Frazier is smoking Joe in markets. Always a pleasure. Thank you so much for having joined us. Thank you, Jerry. I do. Appreciate it. Thanks for having joined us. I'm Jeremy shop and this has been the sporting life on ESPN radio. Tune in again next weekend. We're on every Saturday and every Sunday morning at six eastern time.

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"This is the sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Here's Jeremy shop the first Ali Frazier fight March eighth, nineteen seventy-one was arguably the biggest sports events. Oh, in the history of the world. The man who won that fight doesn't get nearly as much attention as the man who lost that fight. Mark cram juniors. Trying to rectify that with his new book smoke in Joe the life of Joe Frazier, terrific. New biography of one of the greatest athletes of all time, who is nevertheless, in some ways, underappreciated ended is a pleasure to welcome to the show. One of the best sports writers in the world Mark Kram junior, Mark. Thank you for joining us. Good to be way to Germany. Mark, you come to this subject. Biologically say or genetically true. I grew I know the feeling. We have something in common. Your dad also terrific sports writer. Of course, it Sports Illustrated in its golden age in the heyday covering, Ali covering Frazier writing about their trilogy of fights. Why why did you? How did you make the decision that you wanted to dedicate so much time in such a large part of your life or the last few years to going in depth on smoking? Joe someone that your father had written about so extensively. Right. Dad had written all three alley Frazier. Fights were Sports Illustrated and years later had written the controversial book goes to Manila in two thousand one which was kind of an SAS stick approach to the two men. But as as time passed and sort of the of the dust settled, I just had a sense that was worth taking a deeper dive into Joe. Wanted to write about him, not just as a fighter but as a man, and perhaps introduce them to a new generation of sports fans. So as much as possible, I wanted to build the book on fresh interviews with primary sources, which is to say, people were still living in were around Joe and new amendment, Lee. You know, it was kind of a reporting job as much as a writing exercise when you write about Joe Frazier, inevitably. Of course you writing about Muhammad ALI'S. Well, but one of the purposes, one of the points of doing this is to remove him from the shadow of Muhammad Ali the same. But the same time you have to tell Allie story because they're intertwined, how do you approach that a conundrum? Well, that was that, that was a real challenge, because the point of the book was to uncouple him is story from Allie story as much as possible. But you really can't do that. So you have to weave in the. His relationship with Alli and more or less kind of explain it as you went along and sort of unravel, it sort of take it take a bit of a closer look at it and, you know, it's been said, I guess, by other writers that, you know, they brought out the best of each other inside the ring, and the worst of each other outside the rig, and I wanted to examine you know, you know, the challenges at up your back created for Joe and the question I had for everyone that I interviewed was is this animosity that he had built up over the years toward alley. This is something that he took his grave, you know, did he did he find? Did he come to a place of peace about it? And I think it was able to answer that question at the end of the book, I think there's a very tender scene there where I think Joe really, really reveals his true nature, who speaking with Mark cramped junior about. His new book smoking. Joe the life of Joe Frazier. Mark won the pen, yes, PM award for literary sports writing back in twenty thirteen for his book, like any normal day story of devotion. And he brings all of his considerable powers to bear in the telling of the story of the life of Joe Frazier, who was the heavyweight champion of the world. Of course, in that, that golden age for heavyweights. Oh, my there was a and, and that's part of the story here is well, it's not just Ali but of course, his fights with form in the other fights math. Gary quarry quarry. We Joe Frazier. And in that relationship with Ali, though, there was always the question. You know how much of it is just generating interest. How much of it is authentic. How much did they truly understand each other? How much did they actually low the other how much of it was for show will I in the course of, you know, dedicating yourself to writing this book, what conclusions were you able to draw about where selling the fights overlapped into actual hostility? Well, it's an interesting question, because my feeling was Josiel ings about alley waxed and waned over the years. You know there were days where you would catch them, and he would be, you know, he could see the value that from an early early point is creek could see the value that Allie, help for them financially and every other way, but an alley as you know, no. One he was a genius at working the crowd, but I got the sense as time passed that. Allie was only too willing to up the Atty by that. I mean, he would see a crowd, and he would start on his stick about being the greatest, what have you and he served what get the reaction that he was looking for hoping for, and he would up the ante a little bit. And it really it would lead over into racial invective, that, that really seemed to stimulate, you know, the crowd there's a section in the book or a, a store, a scene in the book that we're allies up at his cap, and he's talking to some greeting some as fans after what was workouts, and he's sort of, you know, going through his thing. And then as soon as he starts calling Frazier guerrilla everybody gets worked up excited. And he's really got him. An alley is really got him where he wants it. Well that that did not sit well with Joe, you know, who is basically. He'd just under didn't understand that. Why Ellie had the go there go that far? Allie, of course, also literally went to Philadelphia basically Joe's backyard his powers. And you know came in on his territory it was incredible. I mean well, Allie was on from the ring of or his stance on the draft. He actually moved to Philadelphia and moved right into Joe's backyard. And, and was always showing up and sort of big a nuisance of himself. And, and it was just, you know, Joe called it his skylark in, you know, always scholar and it just got on his nerve. I mean he would show up and, and there'd be scenes in the street, there was almost they almost came to blows at one day north Philadelphia at the gym. The cops told him to take it to the park, and, you know, they were like. There were thousands of people lining waiting for Elliot Jodo square off in Fairmount park. I mean it was it was an absolute circus, and, you know, alleys obviously saw the value in that Allie was understood that, you know, it was much more than just the prizefighter sporting event that he was the that the two were that the two were heading for. It was a, a international event, and that was alleys gift and genius was that he was able to see things and magnified way. But perhaps Joe wasn't I lead, you know, Allie was one thing in singular, and he represented so much to so many people those who loved him those who hated him Frazier? Almost inevitably becomes his foil and not just in the ring. But in terms of perceptions of what they represented and there were certainly those used in ugly phrase to refer to Joe Frazier's, you write the book and called him and uncle Tom wit where did that, where did that come from? Well, there was there was Joe is very close to Philadelphia. Mayor Frank Rizzo, any any who was the police Commissioner and later, the mayor, and he was a big boisterous, white man, who, who really climb to power and Philadelphia in the sixties and seventies, and Joe befriended him and became very close to him and through that relationship, he later became friendly with Nixon, and some of the other Republican. Leaders at that time now the Genesis of all this is interesting because. Joe had come up from Buford South Carolina in the fifties late fifties. He was he had on the tail end of the great migration of African Americans to the north and he went to New York and he was kind of getting into trouble. He was the cars and what have you. Although no record exists that he was ever arrested. His family sent down to Philadelphia live with his sister Martha knows don't as maisy who I spoke with for the book and at that time Joe was thirty pounds overweight couldn't fit into any of his clothes. You really had no direction and maisy suggests that that go to the police athletic league, you know. And she said, if you get into trouble down here, there's nothing I can do for you. But, you know, perhaps, the if you get to know the police in town, you might find a little bit of. You know, get a little bit of guidance from and then that's exactly what happened. He was went to the gym and really kind of gained a great respect for the cops because the cops were good to him. And he sort of had that respect for authority that, you know, was kind of kind of placed him at odds with some of the social wins at the time speaking with Mark Kram junior about his terrific new biography of one of the greatest fighters where the greatest athletes of the twentieth century, smoking Joe, the life of Joe Frazier. Of course he was the heavyweight champion of the world after Muhammad Ali was banned from boxing, and he retained his undefeated, a status as heavyweight champion the world by defeating Ali on March eighth nineteen seventy one, the first of their three fights arguably the biggest sports event in the history of the world right up there, certainly Dempsey. Tunney to its Soldier Field in nineteen twenty seven that fight in particular was so big. It was such a gigantic cultural moment. And those pictures of Frazier his floral green trunks are burned into our memory already. What does winning that fight say to us about who Joe Frazier was is a fighter in a man well to begin with one of the fascinations with Frazier? And you could say this rally as well. Can you think of any athlete who's put their body on the line, the way they those stupid, and that fight and all three other fights really death mass, and it's an interesting thing I remember Ali one saying that if you wanna see me get beat don't talk about my religion. Tell me how great I am. You know, butter me up. Well, don't don't talk about my religion don't get me mad. Well, that's exactly what he did with Joe by the time Joe stepped in the ring that night, and March of seventy one, no one was going to beat them. No. Not Ali not Dempsey, not low at no one's going to beat him that night. He was so focused and. And ready to go? Now the interesting thing was he did win the undisputed title, but there was a lot of he got very upset by the idea that it was he sort of had a it was kind of illegitimate. Hold that he had on the title was undisputed because Ali had been forced out of box. Exactly. And the was an alley himself. You know, fed that narrative almost within twenty four hours of the fight, you know, he was putting that narrative out there that Joe was somehow and illegitimate champion. Well, he would say that he was the greatest one great champion on one hand, but in the next breath, he would say that there was some legitimacy about his hold on the title. So he was always working Joe working on his psyche that way. And Joe Joe particularly found that to be aggravating. You know, I mean uh. The interesting thing, though, is if, if Joe had fought alley in sixty seven which is a big question that they were trying to arrange before Allie, went into the, you know, was put a exile. I think Ali would have handled Joe fairly easily. I think at that time, so there are meeting at the perfect time in their careers. Many ways sticking with Mark cramped junior again about his new book smoke. Joe the life of Joe Frazier, and it's terrific book and terrific tribute to one of most important athletes of all time. But for you, personally, Mark writing this book, is we discussed in our first segment is someone who so closely associated the subject that is Joe Frazier with your father's. Well died seventeen years ago at the age of sixty nine after his great career. What did it mean to on a personal level? And how did it connect you with your father again? Well, my dad as you say passed away in two. Thousand two and he's really never far from my thoughts. You know, we, we were very close and admired him tremendously and his, his work, and, you know, I just never dreamed that I would be doing a book on Joe Frazier. I figured that was his that was his, you know, area of expertise and is territory. And you know, editors over the years at asked me to write about Joe. They they knew that I lived in Philadelphia. In fact, a book editor in two thousand eight asked me to consider a biography of Joe and I rejected it at the time, but, you know, it was I was sitting in my office about, I don't know four or five years after Joe died two thousand six two thousand sixteen. I guess it was and I just got to thinking that. You know, if somebody writes book, ten years from now, everybody that knew Joe is going to be virtually gone, and they'll have to write the book, they'll have to write the book from clips, you know, and sort of piece it together and not having any first-hand knowledge and, and as soon as I thought of that, you know, I became flooded with chills. I felt like there was it was some sort of cosmic traffic light, that was turning red degreen. And I just had a sense that my father's spirit was with me, and I'm as I'm talking to you now I have these same chills. I just feel like you know. He just, you know, it was with me every step of the way with this as I said, it's, it's terrific testament, not only not only to Joe but a dad's legacy as well. If I may say, Mark ramp juniors new, thank you knew. Biography of Joe Frazier is smoking Joe in markets. Always a pleasure. Thank you so much for having joined us. Thank you, Jerry, I do appreciate it. I'm Jeremy shop, and you can listen to new additions of the sporting life, every Saturday and Sunday morning on ESPN radio and ESPN app, beginning at six AM eastern time.

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CBS3 News PM News Update 03/08/2021

CBS3 Eyewitness News Philadelphia

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CBS3 News PM News Update 03/08/2021

"I'm just kick our tally here today. Cbs three eyewitness news headlines verse group of pre k. To second grade students return to their philadelphia classrooms today. The return was delayed due to concerns over building safety overall the reaction today. One was good the second group heads to class later this week. Meanwhile to the injured in a house. Fire in paul's borough have died. The family of a five year old boy in seven-year-old killed in the fire of setup a gofundme page to raise money to help pay for their funerals along washington street broke out early saturday morning. There's analysis data phillies owner. Joe frazier mohammed. Ali commemorating the fight of the century. The statue was unveiled and johann jim feature servile bucks county. Today's the fiftieth anniversary of the first ali frazier fight. I'm just kick our talia for the latest on these stories and more check out and cbsn's philly and we'll see you later tonight on eyewitness news.

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Weekend Headlines

"Hey it's dan. Patrick here to tell you about the dan patrick school. The sportscasting up teamed up with full sail university to create a sports casting. Bachelor's degree you work both on and behind the cameras. You build skills for the future of sports so you can connect with audiences no matter where they are or how they're tuning in learn more about full sail universities. Dan patrick school to sportscasting by going to full sail dot edu slash espn. Pardon the interruption. But i'm mike will bond. We did our show two hours later than usual on friday. Tony how you feel tony kornheiser. It's been a tight turn around. But i think my body is ready actually got a few texts from people and i'm not a guy like you are but i got a few saying it's really late. You look terrible. You look like you really need to go to sleep. And i thought it's like seven o'clock athlete but i got the check. Always well the pti boys and girls in today's episode. The nets get blake griffin michigan. State gets another win and bryce into shambo gets a text from tiger but we begin today with the nba all star game some of the highlights for janas onto compo- shooting sixteen for sixteen. Which does happen when you're playing alone in your driveway. And winning the mvp damian lillard pulled up from forty feet on the shot. That officially won the game steph. Curry won the three point contest. On the last ball and anthony simon's won the dunk contest by getting his face. Even with the rim wilpon. What was the most memorable moment for you. Tony jaanus going sixteen for sixteen. It's like you said you can't even do that in your driveway. You can't and so. I what i'm going to say now. I apologize to youngest for in advance. But the two players that i said last week. I told steven. A. to pay to see top to damon steph steph and dame nothing that happened last night changes that because when you look at dame yes he's got the one shot that wins it or secures one hundred seventy point but tony. There was another shot previews of that where he is straddling the half court line. And he thinks he and steph they just go to places. You and i covered basketball for a long time. Coach wouldn't even let players take those shots to greatest shooters of all time. Wouldn't even take those. It's a no. That's a bad shot. Stephan dame damon steph. Yeah those are actually bad shots in real games from half court and nobody takes them in real games from half court but the all star game is an exhibition in which people are supposed to have a lot of fun and show off things that are perhaps being harnessed than the regular season. I'm going in an entirely different direction. I'm going to tell you the most memorable thing for me was how close the nba came to a viral meltdown. The notion that joel. Embiid and simmons ben. Simmons could not play this game because of contact tracing from their barber okay. The barber was positive. They fly separately to atlanta and they are pulled away and say you can't even play. Had they been infected and had they been out there with a twenty four best players in the nba we could see an nba resuming without the best players. I don't know how close they came. But i'm really happy that that didn't happen. I think this is why a lot of players said. Is it worth it to have this all star game. I read some stuff by bradley beal. And he said the only reason we're doing. This is the collective bargaining agreement insists that we do it. It's for money. Or we wouldn't do it but i would ask you this before we gotta hear. What is you. And i don't need barbers. What is with these barbers. This happened to the kansas city chiefs of also. What is going on here with barbara. You're not paying attention. Do you not see hairstyles and appearances. They don't need we don't are we in the nba. Could we even okay. Are we eligible by age for the nba skills lady paying attention. Come on this is this is where the real your memory. What are your favorite movies of all time right there at the bar. What are your favorite characters. All time so should have we. We can't say that line on but it makes me think that all the time that you fascination with. Barbara's letting go major college basketball wrapped up his regular season over the weekend on saturday number four illinois got my man i owe back beat number seven ohio state in columbus as i promised you north. Carolina pummeled duke. Leaving the devil's just eleven and eleven and tenth place in the acc. On sunday michigan state beaten then number two michigan for the spartans third-wicket over top five team in the last sixteen days tone. What did you see as the most significant result of the college hoops weekend. I think it's michigan state winning. They're in the tournament now. You can't get rid of them. I don't care if they lose in their first game in the big ten tournament they beat the illinois michigan and ohio state three top five teams and they are in the other games are not surprises. Illinois's the hottest in the big ten and ohio state is not the hottest team in the big ten so illinois. Winning that game is not a surprise and duke losing duke loss at duke to carolina and they got just rosie in in carolina. And as we've been saying for a while they're going to have to at least go to the finals of the maybe even have to wait a win it to get in. So it's michigan state. You agree. I'm sure do and tony. How many times have we seen those teams look going. I really know about them at the end of february and then they start march with this march right through the big ten of whoever else they gotta go through and they get into the tournament sometimes. They make noise in the tournament. So i'm leaning toward the same position. You are about michigan state but tony. I'm go back to illinois. I've been telling you. Even when they sorta hit a rough patch. Tokyo like the best team in the country. Potentially and tony for them to win the two games. They did to go on the road and they didn't crush ohio state. I told you that game might sort of be overtime. Michigan and ohio state was playing with a certain desperation but after beat michigan and just stoning them in ann arbor. I think it's still illinois. Which i think is the threat to the teams on top. All right so to to to both gonzaga. I think illinois is a real threat and we gotta with a long time. We gotta get. Maybe maybe probably the final weekend that. But i would take that and the big tin. Both those teams as big developments. This past weekend he. I would say i would just say this one thing that not a lot changed from me with one exception baylor reestablishing number two in the country. Yeah that's because the big twelve is a very tough conference as well. Maybe not quite as good as big ten better than everybody else. So baylor is again the number two team. Bryce into shambo. Who i know you hate. Wilpon won the arnold palmer tournament yesterday. He was the only contender to shoot under par. On sunday he hit an array of booming drives on the par-five sixth hole. He changed the entire geography of how to play that whole. He went over the lake which nobody ever does. It's a three thirty. Carry to shambo when three seventy and he got a pre around text from tiger woods encouraging him to win wilpon. has the shambo now answered all the questions. You have had about him no. I don't really have questions. I just think he's a nice villain. He and patrick reed or sort of villainous and this is good for golf. I like to root against him i will. I will cop to that. I told you several times yesterday in texts speaking. You don't tech but we text. I told you several times the shambles going to win because it's kind of a weak kneed top board. Just wasn't that because half those guys are already up in jacksonville. Getting ready for the tv so the board was not the board. We'll find out about a board this weekend. This shampoo was supposed to do yesterday. Tony he was the best player in that field and he closed. He won in tough conditions with that wind. But am i gonna sit here now. He's one once since the us open. That's good is it is like dominating the field. No he's not and we'll have a chance to see what he does real big boy field this week so i'm glad that you said that he won because even though others receded he won the tournament. He was under par of all the contenders. He had the best round. When i say you hate him. I don't mean you hate him. I mean you actually hate him. And you do the same with patrick reed. And i'm glad you mentioned him. You always say these guys aren't as good as tiger. They're no threat to tiger. They can carry tigers jock all of which is true but tiger. Is we also both of them. What does that he really he. He no really his chumps. You embrace a couple of guys that you really talented. But then no route. Three know real threat to tiger. They're not tiger likes them. Tiger lights weird to share. The shambo does not win with driving because he does that. Have good driving accuracy. He wanted this tournament the way he won at winged foot he wins with his wedges in his putter. He gets it so far but he buries it in the row house to use a five iron now. He never has to us sixty nine. He's only using wedges an putter and that's how we won the one other thing i wanted to say and in the post game interview he was so complimentary. Detail was tigers should be any was he was jordan. Speed is killing me now. He keeps stolen top by but on sunday. He fades on sunday. He's not contending. And you and you wonder. Is he going to win. The one other thing. Mike phil mickelson dropped out of the top hundred for the first time in. Hello nine thousand. Nine hundred ninety three eight twenty eight years only me. The other thing was filled never reached number one and some other guys. That would who couldn't close. Yesterday either. Was going point phil but phil was number two behind tiger for two hundred and seventy weeks. Are you kidding. So what's better number one four minute or be number. Two for two hundred seventy weeks to tiger. He's going to the hall of fame he's got. Let's take a break but coming up. Trevor bauer says keeping one eye closed helps him as a pitcher but was he really. Just trolling the padres. And we'll blake griffin great contribution to the nets as james harden believes. He will fill fill could be dominant to larry bird right. I mean you just can't get by right awesome. That's what he's been hundred and seventy weeks. Come on yeah years. These wing years ever buy something and then regretted like pants. 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And i lend them gravitas. When i recite them allowed. Let me see what i really want. English major world james harden and says blake griffin can make a great contribution to the nets. Do you agree no no. I think that's all they need. I don't see blake griffin making a great contribution maybe a contribution off the bench and really then is sort of a. I don't know seventh or eighth or ninth man. I mean the narrative was that the nets couldn't play good enough defense thinking good enough. You're not gonna be great and that they weren't deep enough now. They are deep enough. This helps and he may win a game with the country's built even know james harden doesn't know if blake can play yet. We all wanna see the hope. He's healthy enough to make that contribution a great contribution seems overstatements to mito. I said this the other day. I don't know why the nets wanted him. And i don't know why he wanted the nets. I don't really get this. They say is play backup center. He's not a center. The position he plays on the court is the position. Kevin durant plays and he's not playing over kevin durant. I don't know how many minutes he's going to get. I don't know what he's going to do to get the ball with kyrie and with harden and would durant or all better than to make a second unit with him in cairo. But you know what i look. I look at blake griffin said to himself. I got nothing going on this year. So i'll go chase a ring this just it just sort of feels you know like early retirement for blake griffin this year. I i don't. You're much more optimistic about this than i know. Great contribution i can see him the more contribution. Hardly see in helping the lakers tony favorites and they're now the favorites and they can win a ring. He can win a ring. I get it. Do you see trevor. Bauer pitching to the padres with one eye closed as training or trolling seat or anything. Trevor bauer he's now i want to see pitch. I don't wanna hear. But he had his right eye closed. We says he did for x. Number of batters most of the first inning. He got to strike outs. And he points to and he says he can. It helps him train his concentration. He's better 'cause when he opens his second. I watch out. He's don drysdale. I i like to see the guys great. And he just seems a he makes life to make a big deal out of whatever he's into. I'm not making a big deal of it. I don't care to you well. He's sort of like nuclear loose rolling his eyes back into his head and stuff like that. I watched all this stuff on what appears to be the trevor bauer channel. I guess he's got his own channels too and at one point what he said. I want to get the quote exact. I figure if they can't score off me with one eye open it's going to be difficult to score of me with two is open. Look he's provocateur. He's he understands that the padres of the main competition to the dodgers in the nfl west. And he's trying to get under their it strikes me that trevor bauer favorite person. The world is trevor. bauer trend. That he likes to likes to say things that are sort of weird to get to see if you're interested in a way he's almost like kyrie irving and you wonder it's gonna come out with incense at some point. Great comes out to the mound. that'd be another female. Let's take one last break but still to come. You bears a reportedly serious about russell. How's that gonna turn out. You deserve my reaction dallas gonna turn out and we'll share some thoughts on the fiftieth anniversary of what i think what you think is the greatest sporting event in modern history. Maybe this show this show. They put on yesterday. I watched great great. It was just great all star game. Well no no no. No ali frazier boys and girls do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com today. That's geiko dot com a happy time. People happy sixty eighth birthday. jim rice. The red sox hall of fame leftfielder the american league. Mvp in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight. An eight time all star. He led the american league in homers three times and an rbi twice rice holes. The boston records for home runs three hundred eighty two. Rbi one thousand four hundred fifty one and hits two thousand four hundred fifty two for a right handed hitter. Ted williams call you stransky. david ortiz. All batted left team with rice and left fred linen center white evans and right. The red sox had one of the best outfields ever rice lynn were. Mvp's and evans was a tremendous defensive player with a cannon for an arm. Rice was so imposing. Tony only just stood on top of the plate. You thought how could anybody get it past him. Big strong quick we go back and talk about five two players which they used to rice hacked with bill one of them and it was just. He was sort of majestic to watch. I thought happy anniversary. Joe frazier this posthumous. But on this day fifty years ago frazier retained his world heavyweight championship by defeating muhammad ali round decision in one of the greatest. Most electric fights in boxing history. This was ali's first loss and the end of some of his mythology. When frazier knocked him down in the fifteenth round. The setting was madison square. Garden and the crowd was star. Studded frank sinatra was ringside working as a photographer for life magazine. You thought you were a star you better have a ticket to this one barbra streisand. Miles davis dustin hoffman and. sammy davis. Junior did recently. I heard a story. That james taylor and his producer and manager peter or sat ringside because taylor had a contract to perform at the garden that night and the cost of getting him to move the date was to ringside tickets. The greatest event tony my entire life not sporting event. I mean if you took all of okay maybe the moon landing but this is it. And i wanted to go when i was twelve years old fifty years ago my brother and i and my mother said to my father. You better not spend fifteen dollars a seat to watch closed-circuit circuit in one thousand nine hundred seventy one that was the money was like a third of his bring home paycheck and yet my father snuck somehow got the tickets for the three of us and alkyl sunny and the tickets were on our plates at dinner the night before we escaped by mother we went and we watch the greatest. The greatest ever and tony. I remember being miserable. That ali lost. I mean bryant gumbel once said ali lost that means. We all lost those of us who rooted for ali. There's nothing like it in my life. I watched it yesterday and for people who didn't watch it. Go watch it. Go watch ali frazier and the fiftieth anniversary special. Because there's nothing in the history of this country maybe the world quite like it. Both fighters were never the same. Innocent is were nor ears as they four. Yes it was. It was such a great fight. And joe frazier gave everything that he had left. Nothing hardly anybody's ever seen robbery was up by the count of three to five fifteen happy trails. Once again to tom wilson the washington capitals pugnacious forward was suspended seven games. I hit that sent. Boston defenceman brandon carlo to the hospital on friday night. Wilson was not penalized in real time but league reduced. Carlo was in a defensive position. When wilson make contact with carlos head and sent him into the glass we'll sit at previously been suspended four times and fine twice for excessive hitting boston coach. Bruce cassidy called it. A predatory hit washington coach via lead. Said wilson delivered a hockey. Hit the kind that happens many times each game for those keeping score. This is wilson wilson's first suspension since two thousand eighteen and he has the suspension actress. Preseason regular season and postseason suspensions. he'll tony the. Nfl has sought to take this very act out of play in professional football. The nhl has gone a couple of steps toward it. But tom wilson talk about repeat offender. You look up repeat offender. And there's a picture of tom wilson and there was a great player and i know he has sort of stayed on the right side of this activity for the last three years. But you can have this. And maybe it's time wilson. Does it again for a much bigger and more punitive suspension. Quick to the big finish. Let's bill conner. The wringer reports that the warriors are interested in trading victor all the depot does that make sense. Does people will be great there. I don't want to have to get with a weeks to do it. But all the depot just seems like he'd be a terrific fit more reports eagles owner. Jeffrey loria wants to support. Jalen hurts rather than have a quarterback competition. What do you think of that. I'd given the first five or six games just to see. The offense seemed to perk up with him in there. I'd give it to him. Where vigilance kogyo tribune reports that. The bears are prioritizing running russell. Wilson you must be exciting. It's one thing to prioritize and brad terrific reporter. He knows what he's talking about. But i don't think the gm you can get it done. Tony you've got to be resolute to be creative. you gotta get it done. And i don't know if he can southern conference title game tonight mercer. unc greensboro. Who you got. i'm gonna take greensboro. The one seed last one sundell competitive state and georgia state. Who you in. Georgia state tony in this one nine. We'll try to better the next time. I'm sony corner. Mike wilpon same time tomorrow knuckleheads. You can get the podcast on the espn app or apple. Podcasts excuse me do you own or rent your home sure you do. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com easy.

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HR 2: Lets go back in time!

Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin

43:41 min | 2 months ago

HR 2: Lets go back in time!

"Well first of all kat. Von d has five acting credits to her name. So that fun d us that. There's a cat bundy. Hive is Questioning goes on twitter right now. All i'm saying she hasn't but anyway for what you need to know both julio oriented and david price pitch today julio oreo was actually was fantastic nine. Nine down. twenty six pitches really really good. David price was the same three up. Three down on eleven pitches and so the pitching staff is starting to look nice. David price though while trevor. Bauer was being looked at by. The dodgers went to andrew friedman and he said i will play whatever position. You want me to for as a pitcher. I can be a reliever or i can be a starter. Whatever it is you need. Whatever will get us to a championship. L z one. Do you think of david price giving himself up to any position spot. So i'm looking at her credits a- she has acting credits and also they're also playing herself. Well it's not about kat. Von d this is about the greg putting her in actors. Category me under the bus. The bus women's day on women's day apologized laura. That was that was wrong. And that's one of georgia's call video short not even like a real thing. No look life in pieces of the tv series. She was tattoo. Valentine qatar pregnant. She was lois she will you. She was what the hell did you ask. David price said that he will pitch out of the pen. That's awesome. That's what we need because we've been talking about this l. Zizou directed a hugh. We're talking about this. There's too many arms to put in the starting rotation somebody's got to go to the bullpen and if prize wants to do it let's go. It's so hard for me to let go of this acting credit on it. I'm like even though the name says. Lois is a tattoo pregnant person while she was in pregnant. Like it's not even like this isn't like you know someone's actually going out and becoming something different. That's like what should be. She just really just showed up as a self and instead of cutting can't called the lowest. And i'm glad that david price has said that he's wanted to do whatever we want without him doing anything. Well there there it is right there. Is that if you're david price you're like. Hey so i know you guys got me and then. I bounced on the season because the kobe which you know now that i look back on it you know nobody kinda really got it. You guys went on to win the world series. No no scott no so romance at the end there was a big deal of but none of it but it was over. I mean and you wouldn't have affected. His play is what you're saying that he could he could have gotten to. the finish. line is what i'm saying and so from his perspective what he's thinking is. Hey so. I'll do whatever you guys need me to do. I wanna be a part of this right. He has fomo fear of missing out. I would say so. I would say hey look them on the second quarter up george and i was like. What is that foam is that what is that. Oh i'm just checking dr come on caesar's workout really well man. They're clean because greg took time out to call his shot. Put us in a tailspin. She's attractive lady. What do you want me to rush. Exactly don't have me second guessing. Whether or not i missed all these starting cat fondue. It doesn't have to be hearing you. Or having. L z thing that i'm saying something that's not fomo fomo very different word very different. Fear of missing out. Okay thank you all right okay. That's what you need to know. Present morongo played safe can. Oh that's funny. Moments page stunned upsets me. I'm going to just stop. Stop do let me let me ask you guys a question you know. Today is the fifty year anniversary of frazier beating ali at madison square garden and espn and abc. Did a fantastic job this week. I don't know if anyone saw this at eleven pacific in the morning on. Abc they ran a digitally remastered version of that fight for the fifty year anniversary men. It was awesome to watch. I got a chance to watch some of it. Because i just happened to be home and i was flipping through the channels watching the morning news. I guess before whatever and it just was on. I was like oh man. This is cool and it wasn't even just a fight because the fight was obviously tremendous. Its historical but like just thinking to myself as i see in the crowd. Frank sinatra's out there with a camera with is huge lens and he's like taking pictures for some magazine or something like that like as their photographer for the fight like it was just something wild like that and it made me think like you know. I wasn't born then. Obviously ninety seventy one but like when you mean. obviously. Because i've told people forty three years old why you could be born. Nineteen seventy one. Okay all right choice true. But i'm so. I was thinking to myself man. It would have been cool to have been at that. Have been old enough to be there. Like if you could pick scott a sporting event that you weren't born yet for you could say i would love to have been here if i could if i could place myself magically the time machine what would it be something that you didn't get a chance to iran. Good question really. Good question you. I saw just really quickly. I saw this. Ali frazier fight on saturday night and the one thing that struck me as i was watching it was. It seemed the punishment. Ali seemed to be receiving you. Frazier's hands were like big and heavy and it seemed like every punchy through his whole body into every time he hit ali. He's on the ropes. Man what we know became mohammed ali. Wow look back then at what was going on in his life. You know this constant punishment man. But as far as a sporting event that i that i wasn't born for that i would like to be. Wow that's a really really good question. Oh man you put me on thinking about this right if you wanna pass those you can. Because he's got one that he would love to have been at pass. I'm gonna. I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna pass. Yes i'll pass thank you. I'll pass first of all. I don't know if you guys have had a chance to go to the boxing hall of fame I have not and the rain from this fight. They were talking about In the hall of fame the complete centerpiece. So it's so cool that you you know. Obviously you don't see the blessings and stuff you walk in and like ansi c. This ring and i didn't know it was there until i got to through the doors and was asking the director. He told me i was like holy cow. This was absolutely incredible. So i would have loved to have been to that fight. Obviously all the history. But that's not my first choice. Okay my first choice is definitely sixty eight mexico city. Okay shipley giancarlo. I would have loved to have been there for that because someone needed to control the media afterwards because at that time that went a lot of minority voices right and so not only were they being vilified in oh by politicians and by are obvious olympic officials but to have so many voices in media. Talk about that moment in a vacuum as as they just decided to do this arbitrarily and there wasn't a reason for it right right for sure. Yeah that that. that's a good one. That's a that's a. That's a good one to come up with. Like you know why i wanted to be there and what i could have contract. That's good see. I was thinking about this like in a totally shallow way like what you were just a fan. i've seen. What sporting event have. I not been to that. I would like to go to that. I want to go to one. That was completely utterly historic seals. You came up with something deep me. I'm just a shallow thinking. I'm thinking to myself like. Hey wouldn't it. Have been cool to be back in yankee stadium when everybody was just wearing like suits and ties and hats and there was babe ruth out like. That's that's lame. You came up with a good deep one. They wouldn't have allowed any black players on the field so that would have temporal things a little bit for me back then. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Yeah now cleaned the bit z. Arrigo man given the open. Now there you go now crystal just making fun of you so let me. Let me ask you this. Let's let with the lakers situation. We kind of we're talking about the potential of adding a player and and obviously the preferences through the buyout. But the anthony. Davis thing is what looms here and z. I asked you the question. If by march twenty fifth and hopefully we know before then but if by march twenty-fifth you don't know anthony davis status willing to make a move a trade to help augment this team to benefit lebron's skillset particularly scott. Were you there as well other than shooter right. If i have that correct to me. Listen i use the word untradable k. It's a bit of an exaggeration. But what i'm saying is eighty lebron. You're not exactly entertaining. Offers no schroeder. Sure to me is a guy who is the energy on the floor. I like him. And i think we saw what they were when he wasn't around and what they were i think when he came back. Otherwise coups mma caruso. I mean everybody else. Even though. i'm intrigued by the young talent. I think everybody else is is fair game because every year that lebron wears a laker uniform. He's got to be going for a championship. There is no oh no he comes back next year. You cannot waste any time with lebron all right. let's go to the phones. Salomon in lake balboa salomon what's up. Hey guys yeah sort of stealing my thunder a little bit. I agree unfortunately. After the big three eighteen lebron intruder it drops off this appointed. You know i really was. I just wanted to real quick address. The big and here's a nice question. I'm glad there addressing the bit. Because i knew when they got rid of both Javale mcgee and white. We're going to have problems in them into. But and i knew it would let me ask you a question. Who's the outside drop. Get three point shooter for the lakers. Or there is no god thank you. Yeah notice that that big pause there they need to address fat they wanna move forward with the nba and the direction it's going you wanna beat a team like brooklyn you gotta get some shooting man. You can't just trae to threes and things you're going to defend them and win a title so they need to address that it'll be look it's on the list we've talked about and thank you for the call. Solomon ozzy when we were talking about this last week. We mentioned shooter. I can play. Who can shoot threes in play. A little defense would be a bonus too because this team's shooting has been very up and down like at the beginning season. It was great and for the most part man over the last month or so it has fallen off a cliff so there does need to be some consistency to that part of the game Absolutely what i can't figure out. George is the part that has been falling off as a team has to do with legs. That have just gotten tired and it's caught up to them because you legs the first thing that happens when you're tired you lose your legs and if you're shooting threes clearly you need your legs The other thing too is from team statistical standpoint. Lebron james particular has fallen off a cliff and because he's take so many threes and he's making so few of them over the past month or so. I wonder if that's over impacting. The team's overall statistics in term three point shooting because of how many he takes how he's been shooting as of late as opposed to an overall statement about the team's three point shooting. It's interesting yeah and then the other thing is you know we got guys that can knock down a shot. You know the formula especially open. What's right we saw last year alkaline and the formula has been at least one if not two of these guys are going to be hot that night. Like all of them won't be hot. But we have enough capable shooters that we can find two guys that can knock down three or four triples. We need them to. I would like to add one more to solomon's point though what just pick up korver. I honestly think you just pick up korver. Well i just want to say this. After what i saw this past weekend at the all star game seems to be a lot of chumminess between lebron and steph. With ain't gonna help us. This year. I understand is gonna help but look into my crystal ball here and having going eventually. I wanna see steps. Lebron can give you some some real real real talk for saving for the other side. How about the other side. Plus laura's got a great first of time moment she'd like to we were talking about Basically because of the fifty year anniversary of ali and frazier sporting event that you weren't born for that you wish you could have been at eight seven seven seven ten pm. We'll have laura's on the other side plus l z. Thought on the lakers there in just a second. We'll be back in two and a half minutes. It's perfect international women's day. So when i hear this song. I just stop just stop. I want to let you change. It didn't trouble be. Don't well. I was looking during the birthdays to see if it was something greg way see. Meryl streep birthday was today us katmandu. John do sorry. Sorry van de undo bondi. Bondi sake said fondue. That's all anyway that. Actually that's not wrong. Even man laura before we move on to answer questions about the lakers. You had a great suggestion. We were talking about the fiftieth anniversary of ali. Frazier were asking people to chime in with sporting events. They wish they could have been at but they weren't born for yet and you had one. That was great. Yeah so. I started thinking i had a few and i said the first time jackie robinson was playing the majors like have love to be there just it transcended so many things besides baseball as he thinkers around here. This is impressive very deep. I was thinking so shallow. Okay we're going to judge where you were thinking on air. Judge the hell out of it on air. I feel like we've a certain stride. Where he there's nothing being held back on this on air off air. It's just gonna be what it is they work. I have those choices to. It's my top choice. Yeah we'll be there to sixty right but i- plenty of other things. I would have loved to have been in. You know in the stadium when you know michigan. Buddha game against michigan state. Like that sounds incredible. I was at a wedding and we were at the reception in and it was a group of us at this reception. Huddle around iphone. Try not to get caught watching the last few minutes of the michigan game right. It's such a huge game. Yeah well listen. I mean yeah if you were born for that one but yeah i mean look. There's a lot of events that we could. You can pick from for ten years old in nineteen eighty for the one thousand nine hundred. Us olympic team. That would have been. I mean you think about all time things to have been in all rena and just it always looks so low definition on tv so and you would have been there live whereas that thing didn't run for hours later right that's real life for the rest of the country that that would have been pretty cool for eight seven seven hundred ten. Espn if you want hop aboard now l. z. y. They were asked the lakers questioner. We were gonna make lakers comment off of What scott was talking about so you guys were saying sharpshooter you guys are saying shooters chelsea was saying that there are a couple of guys that can knock down shots and i was saying that. I'm looking into my crystal ball. And after watching lebron steph so chummy at the all star game the future hope would be lebron steph team up at some point i was going to say the the real real talk aspect. It is that I don't think that those two gentlemen dislike each other to the point that a lot of people think they do. Because i believe that those two men are very focused on the bigger picture because they're focusing on the bigger bigger picture. There were never be the kind of beef that we may hunger for from the eighties and nineties and two thousands. Even you just not going to see that because a lot of these these men. They're focused on a much bigger picture now and they're not gonna come at each other. That doesn't mean won't have disagreements and they won't be competitive but they're not gonna come at each other same sort of vitriol that we're used to see and league's past agreed that they will come with that vitriol but those two have been hyper competitive and have had their shots. At each other's there's no doubt about that. That's just ball. But i've talked about before where it looked as if it was really personal. No no is. This is what i would tell you in twenty sixteen. I can tell you this. The they can deny this all they want. But i i know this. I am telling you i know this. That twenty sixteen when people were saying steph was the best player on the planet before that finals. Lebron took that bleep personal own. No doubt no doubt but guess what he took it out on staff. But that wasn't about steph. No was headed anything between. Yeah yes of course. I mean they were in the front because you tell the competitive what i'm saying. Is that when you when you look at. What they're doing off the court there. Dan that brings them together as a priest and together every single time so for sure. We're just not going to see the kind of hate that we saw these nineties and tell that's not going to happen because these guys are doing something different with their lives. The previous generations did for sure one hundred percent so that is always common ground but between those lines when their face each other face chosen the conference finals. it could get chippy. I could see the lines. Listen my best friend in the world when it comes to net. I'm trying to be and right now. You know what now. That's my boy when we played tennis. Don't come at net trying to intimidate me volume. Nah dog knows better than that. So i mean so. I can have both you can do both. I just think that the league back in the day. George and cap. You didn't really think our perception of it was that they hated each other. Legitimately hang out and blah blah blah blah blah blah. A guy saying michael exactly whereas today like they got obama on speed down. Lucky i was talking to. Yeah me to think about this. Yeah yeah book. I mean come on just different now. It's different yeah. I saw exactly what you're saying though. L. z about. How these guys are. And i love how you by the way you call a man i say guys. These guys are the players bigger than than just ball for them now. And so combining forces whether you're on the same team or not is is is a good thing. What i'm talking about is the way. I saw these two loving each other initially star weekends. The the love fest on twitter. It has a lot of people speculating. The future of when steps contract is up. I think it's twenty two. That could there be a lebron steph. Ad union that would be you know one super team where they would finally play together and combined forces and and. I would love to see that happen. Yeah it would be the biggest thing maybe ever in that sport. Because i i'll say this are by far the two most popular players. I don't know there's any question. I mean the metrics will tell you that that's the case so and obviously you type with the greatest shooter of all time to the greatest player of all time coming together. Plus anthony. davis is extraterrestrial chicote. Yeah anthony davis something of all time to george greatest most versatile greatest most versatile seven footer. I've ever seen all right. That works. okay. I mean it was good try. You know all the other two. Not much i can do so barrier man. I hear you. I get it but yeah it would be insane. The world would stop. It would be the only thing that could that would recreate what we saw in twenty ten. When when lebron did the thing that made everyone fears the first time you know like so it might be the thing that rivals that like. Because i also think there was a different time right like america was weird. Now no reason at all for staff to leave the lakers know there's period agreed period. Like the only the warriors are never letting him leave the warriors and never letting him leave their the most quote unquote conscientious franchise probably in the league if not all sports right Like there's no way. I can see him levy except for one thing and one thing only just to see if he can do it somewhere else. Oh let's to see just to see if i can do it again. What if i wanted to come to southern cal. Well know about that. Well she She has opened some restaurants down here. It wasn't actress. Remember listen every every player's got a house in la and we you know we could play this game all day. I see we convince you. I don't see happen. there's no reason we're going to come here okay. All right coming up next blake griffin on the move and lebron reveal something that kind of people who are back a little bit in his pre-game press conference for the all star game and people were like. Oh okay so we'll talk about that coming up in four and a half minutes stick around seven ten. Espn nosy osea cap era and seven ten. Espn so i will say this as soon as that all star game was over. I flipped right to oprah. I needed to see oprah oprah to me is the greatest interview or we have. It's her and howard. Stern are the top two people that you get. They get somebody in a room and they will get all the best stuff out of them. Oprah's number one for this reason. Just she's so perfect at knowing when to emote back towards her interview subject and also her facial expressions. She knows how to win to lean in. Lean how she tips. The glasses does the bryant. Gumbel move like oprah not only does she have the interview portions the tackling and blocking of that unbelievably perfect. She just dominates when she's on cameraman so i was happy. Just as a tv media dork just to watch her. And then all the stuff that came out with just like damn. I was talking with my producer This morning we were shooting The la times today and we were talking about the interview. And i said you know. The fina oprah does is so simple and yet difficult for people to do she listens. And you know. I've been and i'm sure you have as well georgia and and you as well cap. We've all prepared for important interviews before but many of us in our industry get so consume with are prepared questions that have been workshop for three days right that we forget that. That's just a us in case you need to break glass list of questions. Correct the questions supposed to come from listening. And i'm sure oprah had her break glass questions but because she was listening she was able to do. Exactly what you're saying. George which expertly navigate these those interviews on to fascinating people about a topic that many people don't know about. Yeah let's kinda start there okay. So not knowing about it. I'm going to just have to air this out to you guys. The royal family british monarchy. The fact that there's a queen the fact that these people live in these palaces and they live this ultra-wealthy life and they have protection insecurity and yet they're not governing they're not leading up to me. I've never found them interesting. I don't understand people's fixation with them. And so when. I when i started to hear about this interview is like okay. You know this kind of sounds sort of interesting. I watched a lot of the clips today. What's shocking is what comes out of these kinds of interviews right now. The world guessing like okay. Who's gonna be who's gonna get aired out here. Somebody give them up or her up. Who they're going to give up. Oh we're not going to tell you oprah come on somebody tell us please well. They definitely said the queen wasn't wasn't one of them like but they they they left you to think about everybody else. I just thought this was interesting to again from just like a tv standpoint not to get into the nuts and bolts of what was necessarily said. Although there are plenty of places you could find that. I think from a media perspective the fact that seventeen million people watch this. It's insane like that's like game. Six or seven of an nba finals pre covid. That's like more than a world series game in pobably outside of that kkob series right like that's people ellison's torch because this listen. Th this is interview was this is the story of a young black girl gonna be california in a culture that one encourages women to get married and two from the time in which they can barely able to read fantasized about marrying a prince. Become reverend says one day. This woman did exactly that right and less than three years later. See y'all keep all at this issue. I'm back to america. Nice so we needed to know. Just how racist it was right. So bad a little girl who always dreamed or at least was exposed to the culture of dreaming to marry a prince one day right what the hell was going on in that palace as you say. Y'all can keep all this. i'm going back. It had to be really really be really really bad and real by the way it was actually almost she right. She thought about killing herself. Like all that stuff again. It was it was while the show that's That's like a netflix show. That's about the royal family around okay. So i haven't seen that somebody told me today. They're like if you watched the crown then. None of what you heard last night is surprise. You right well. i'll tell you this. It didn't surprise me a ton. In retrospect while it was explosive to hear right. Because we never heard that before. And i thought that tells you point. It was important for that to be said right because it's been implied in reported but it's different from someone from the inside saying it which we've never had right so and it being a young black woman. I think raises that even further. But what i would say you know. Look cnn not that long ago about the royals. A lotta dirt in there about their kinda various sorts of activities or you know activities that you'd be like what like what is going on there so in that regard. Yes i do think that that you may know a little but to hear it. I think is different. So seventeen million people. Okay watch this from coast to coast it them. Cbs it cost e seven million dollars for the rights of this. None of it went to the royals. According to reports but oprah getting paid a good for her well i mean. I didn't see a problem. Yeah it's like well it's oprah. Yeah i honestly. I thought the number was a little low. I was shocked. I was expecting to these ten to twenty million myself really. Okay well if an actor you paid twenty million dollars to make a movie. Oh no no no no no of the money. I thought you meant low like in the amount of people that watched. It met the money when i saw that was like going I thought it would have been a lot more. Of course it's oprah but the story is important camp Because over the last you know. I don't know since may basically right. The globe has been having a comeback. Jesus meeting when it comes to race relations and as weird deliberating the fallout from the interview. Yesterday on the day. That george floyd jerry In terms of the derek. Chauvin trial is going right. There's been selected today. it's just perfect symmetry. Because it was the death of george floyd that sort of this sort of global conversation so it makes perfect sense to me whether i don't care about the world's either like you on a personal level but because they are lording over many nations stale as commonwealth around the globe there influenced needs to be looked at constantly valuable information. I know i've got that like arrogant american thing when i look at the royals and i'm like when you say the royals you mean the kansas city royals and so i have that thing where i'm like. Oh my god this is so dumb. They've got a queen and and occasionally she she comes out of the palace and they got this prince who seems like he's kind of a jerk and then they got the two kids and he's really he's gonna take over someday the brother he's out because he's he's with his wife he's done with them. I thought it was interesting. He said yeah me and my dad. We don't even talk. Yeah so i just. I would say that. He said it was a period where they stop taking his calls. He's taking his calls now now. Apparently he said at the end they are The the other part to me that stood out was when the prince harry wright interviewed yes. That's harry harry. Harry said oh man. I didn't want history. Repeat itself the way his mom died. Just being hounded by the media and all the stuff that came with. I thought that was interesting to now. Let me ask you this. And we can do on the other side. Because i'm curious and i also want to get to a big ram story that we gotta hit here coming up in just a second but i'm gonna ask you. This is there a combination of a host and a guest. Like this one. That could that you thinking get you that kind of number seventeen to twenty million people watching l. I want to get your thoughts on the combination on the other side too. It could be anywhere. Walk of life. It could be sports entertainment. But you got pair them with the right host. Whether it's oprah or anderson cooper whoever you want but give me that combo that you think could rival that just from a pure media craziness perspective seven. I've got one like save it. We got to go break. Eight seven seven seventeen years. We've gotta pay some bills. Eight seven seven seven ten three seven seven six so give me that on the other side sedan. Cap international women's day makes you give a nice hug salute. You know show some love to the ladies out there he. Spn asked us to all like send a tribute to women in your life. You know and. I chose my high school debate coach. Okay now does that surprise anybody here you know but yeah my high school debate coach arlene gash bag. Who thought she was so cool. Man which four years of high school debate. That's that's thirty years ago pal. Sending out love shout out there. You go shut out real quick. The rams so there's a potential roster upheaval here okay. So you know we feel like because they got matt stafford. It's like all right. We're good and they maybe. But there's potential changes that are coming like andrew. Whitworth situation is unclear right. Michael brockers alleged on the trade bloc break trade block and perhaps even robert woods according to certain reports and scott andrew whitworth and robert woods and brockers to be honest. All three are very important to their success at the moment or at least have been recently. Sure but can you. Ill afford to lose those guys. You started off with you. Know everybody thinks that the rams got stafford and things are going to be good or better than they were. I'm not one of those people. I'm going to have to wait to see it. I know what matt stafford has done. Statistically but and i also it's been in a really bad organization. But i'm gonna have to see matthew stafford lead a team to the postseason so that's the first part of it. Andrew whitworth to me. You gotta find a way to keep andrew whitworth. He still wants to play. He's one of those freaky guys that even at forty years old and yes there were some injury issues last year but to me. He's like justin turner. He's a heart and soul. Kind of guy and i don't want to get rid of a guy like that same goes for robert woods for me. Robert woods is a local product He's way outperformed what they thought he was going to be. I love best player. So yeah i mean like any. Nfl team you know you get to the end of the season. You say goodbye to everybody because you don't know who's going to be back in the locker room. Sure but guys like whitworth. Those are guys. I'd like to stick stick around. Yeah it's going to be interesting. I I thought that when mike jones the third i believe he's number three tweeted out that you know or at least reporting text matt stafford that he wanted to come to detroit now he was there. That if you're sean mcvay if you're less need you kind of look at that and if you do that that means you gotta lose someone that we currently have. I'm not surprised at all that robin woods name has been floated out there. I obviously don't want to see robert woods. Actually wanna see any of our guys necessarily go but at the same time. I also recognize that. We don't have a home run hitter right. We don't have a guy who can you have the game plan for from the wife procedures position. And it'd be nice to kind of have that you know again and so i'm not surprised at all to see that. Qb is in the only position that they're looking at the twinkie. Sean mcvay said as much that everyone's up for you know evaluation and anything. That team can do to to get better. I'm here for it. Yeah look. I think andrew whitworth jere point. Scott is his values immeasurable on a lot of friends. Obviously he's still really good. But i think from a locker room perspective they lean on him a lot too but in the games he didn't play they played pretty well on the office of and it surprised the hell out of me. That's for sure because while they're offensive line had played much better last year than it had in previous years. It was one of those deals that okay but now we're it's going to be gone. What's it gonna look like and it looked better than i expected much better than i expected. So i i mean listen we could. You imagine could sit down and we could. We could play offensive line coach and we grade the film and we could see what we both come up with I kind of remember it a little differently thinking to myself a lot of the time you know whitworth not being there screwing things up because this guy gotta move here and then this guy gotta move in there and so i. I blame golf. I any of the issues that happened in anything there were that many. I mean i could be wrong but i think there were that many and then guide like to see. I'd like to see the rams. Keep a guy like whitworth. I'd be fine with it. I mean i wouldn't be as distraught as i would've been maybe a year ago is what i'm saying a forty year old offensive. Linemen coming off some injuries right for sure so but and robert woods z. To your point. I get it to like. He's really good. I don't want to leave but there is. You know he's better. He's got giddy up then cooper kupp for sure although cooper is pretty elusive. But there's some duplication there. It feels like at least a little bit. So i'm with you. If you can get someone that can be more of a number one threat and cooper's like your third down threat. I feel really good about the passing game in that situation. You know. I would mean more personally towards trading cooper kupp than i would robert woods Cooper kupp has been injured in key moments. That is so you're not getting much. You're not getting as much from because of the and robert woods has just been iraq. Bright just available and doing whatever's necessary. Blackie catching himself passes. Running from the backfield. Like robert to me is more valuable. So i would try and do an okie doke cooper kupp before i give up all the ams proper woods but but again you can get more for robber woods. I think so. I very much for either of them to be honest with you. I mean i think the second or third rounder for those. Maybe maybe you might be able to get somebody who really feels like you know. We need a number two or number three wide receiver and this is a major upgrade but neither of those guys are ones. They're both kind of twos and threes slotted right to one. Yeah yeah so. I just think it's going to be fascinating to see kind of how all that plays itself out quick cap. We were talking before the break about kind of dream. Pairings for interviews like oprah and the royals so koppelman with you l. I want yours yours as well. I asked you guys who are like a dream pairing so it doesn't have to be just a one on one interview. Because obviously there was an harry but one host and then a person or people that are connected in some way shape or form cap where you going okay. So remember the criteria. What you said here oprah had seventeen million people watch. This interview lasts iraq right. Okay because oprah is great at what she does and she's got a gigantic brand and because there is a fascination with the royal family especially if they're about to say some explosive stuff right. Yes i'm gonna tell you my dream pairing but remember this is. I'm thinking tv producer here and let me sell it to you before you guys poo poo. It you're reading short. Just find god okay here. Goes howard stern interviews. donald trump. now let me sell it. Okay if you know this or not. But stern talks about this all the time. Before trump became president. Stern thinks that trump never really intended to be president that it was all a goof that went completely spiraling out of control and when trump asked stern to speak on his behalf at the republican national convention and stern told him i'm a hillary clinton supporters. This is going back right. Trump never spoke to him again now. Remember stern tells the story he was at trump's wedding they knew each other. They were social. They were new york socialites. They they knew each other and to hear stern dig in to trump to me could be a seventeen million person audience. Yeah i would agree with that. Yeah l. z. Who do you got unless you ought to. Poke a hole in scots theory. 'cause i do think it would get a big audience I don't know if it would but that's neither here nor there I would go with a conversation between dave chapelle chris. Rock and eddie murphy. Who's your interviewer though. There are any of your each other. All it's it's a it's a equal opportunity conversation almost like a red table with jada pinkett. I got i got you. I like that. I like that the way real quick stern interviewed arsenio. And you guys know that chapelle was supposed to be in coming to america. He said hello. I can't curse no shit. Chapelle chapelle was going to do it. In fact chapelle was going to play the character. That arsenio played you know the old wise guy in the old wise man right. Yeah that was supposed to be chapelle but the shooting schedule was such. that chapell. couldn't make it and eddie didn't want to play the character because it took six hours of makeup so eddie pushed it on arsenio and they said and he said well you know what we want to put you in the movie. Just chapelle do it. So they gave it to chapelle but because chapelle couldn't show up arsenio got stuck doing that role our city. Oh man that's terrible all right. Listen i'll tell you mine. And the other. I'll tell you about because we a break. We're up against it. So plus we got what you need to know in between and so i'll give you mine on the other side and from a sports perspective. We do have stuff for you. Trevor bauer make some waves already. We'll talk about that coming up in just a few moments stick around. We're back in two and a half minutes seven ten espn.

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The Boxing on a Corner with a FURY-ous Clout Chaser in Black History Month Episode

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We got discriminated against. What fucking because we're GonNa talk about the obviously the thing. We're going to talk about his wild if you're in everybody knows that it's like does biggest fight to happen. You guys don't wins going. We're going to talk about but I just want to talk about this real quick. 'cause WE'RE ALSO. GonNa talk about black history and my little situation that came up this week but this was a little crazy because after the fight was man this everybody was busy. Kale at me. Kevin from Yahoo went on Mondo from Yahoo. You met the piece of spot. We ate chopped it up. We had some fucking a proper twelve. Help lamented oh shout out to the sponsors Dan. We got a lot of products. I was thinking about like boxers. Know she couldn't finish her. She was mix drink shit so bounce by the time you our even drinking it because we shot it in the. We didn't again. But I poured their last Mackenzie ingredients in. Greg walked up when I was bouncing glasses when I was leaving. Oh he drank that when it was just four of US drink it. Yeah we had a nice amount bottle yes so so after you left and then whenever you did. I'm sure you know. Did you think families we? I was walking out and I'm like I'm going to leave and then you know a minute from La Times. Everybody's outside the ball. And I walk up and I'm like no fucking doing three in the morning. Go home and so obviously the Jesus Christ all right so we go to the bar now all talking research program managers with us. We're just talk into some other fights talking about the week general You know it's the wind down man like you know. Some of the guys will see next week. I'll see copied in Texas for Mikey Garcia fight. Which we'll talk about towards the end of the show and Greg from the athletic was this. You know. I'm like all right cool. Let's drink so staying at this bar. And Kinda SORTA busy but not really in this Little Guy. That was bartending. And you know you know how this goes where you're at the bar you leaning on the bar you like trying to get the bartender's attention. But you're in the middle of compensation so and Kenneth Two brothers which trying to get this guy's attention now. Greg standing behind Greg is white. Mike sitting programs manager away from us in. Nuke is as you can imagine. He's not awake already. He's lit in the crazy thing is he ends of effigies after party after all this. I don't know how this shit but we're all standing there in. It's like twenty minutes. Go By bartending. Never shows up now. We're just talking and then finally Kennedy. Oh to fuck thirty minutes go by. Barclays is walking buyers right so finally. I'm like you know. Give them the year and he looks any like do. Some white do walks up. He gives them three bud lights in front of me and it. Kennedy's like yeah. What man he just got. We Miss Standing and try to get your attention the whole time you know this says bars closed deal and I do you know the week I've just had like immediately now my cartridges. Just walked up. Greg just walked up and they've never really seen in my element in for a second. I that guy I was with the fuck. You mean you close like dog right here and you just serve this. Do Three Bud lights walked up and we'd be standing here thirty minutes and Kennedy's brothers L. A. I never really hear him curse. Kennedy's is he goes off and he's like our age you know he's in his thirties. What the fuck he was like. Oh man you just not going to take our money. That's that's when I really got. I'm trying to give you my money. And he's like he just looked he looked down goes bars closed and walked off. Close the bar on us. Oh you better me out a retried over one point. I was like you know what I started walking around the bar maneuver to your credential on. Still WanNa do this here and I'm just like man the week like I saw reasonable for us to the motherfucker. We that I just had and you just going to do this to me at the bar like for you serve people. We've been thirty minutes and it ain't just to black dude. I mean if you WanNa just discriminate against us. It's not cool but maybe but it's like it's a bunch of us and we got fight credentials on. It's like again compensator Greg. It's all they're all spread out but the only two people he sees me and candid fuses to give a service closes the fucking bar. That's how we're starting to show this week with discrimination and and motherfuckers have been on my time all week talking about this whole black history month thing. We'll talk about that in a second but this that was the culmination of everything was in that very moment. I was like you know what I'm going home. I'm done I don't see I see you just for a split. Second movie style. They do a cut screen. Cut Back to you and you got the deontay wilder all black face mask on with the Red Eyes. Smoke POPS UP OUT OF NOWHERE. Robin like you ready. You're ready to go to the rape. Not this black history month I was. I was so irritated and he just was really because it was happening. And I remember I was standing next to Gregg and I was like you see this right because like y'all thinking I'm crazy. When are we talking about discrimination racism? You think I'm like ultrasensitive and I'm not but when Shit like this happens. I need you to see this in action. Because he he just denied a survey that you watched it. You saw. It was right in front of you. They saw we end so carbon copies drunk so easily whatever but it happened and I was just like wow shit never changes me. That's just so fitting for this week and for the end of the week to go like that man. It's that's crazy. I'm glad I WANNA stairs. That would be the worst part if you would have been there too. Because I had people call me down. They saw was amping up. Nobody's really seeing me pissed off before like they. Oh Shit like and they can't get mad too so it's like manute who was like the nicest guy ever like you know you don't you do this and Kinda do you. I'm an instigator by today's flipped over the bar. The whole ball toned-down. It had been like three would have been like you know once. A black boxer turned the fuck up and destroyed the bar. The would've been pricing Salman reporting straight. Yeah he and he would have been reported on us but he probably would have proper twelve in his hand because he would he came up to. Yes what kind of forever at. Oh shut up. The whole week was just crazy right. We gotta talk about the entire week and figure we break this into two parts will do kind of a run down to the atmosphere and all the shenanigans that happened. And then we'll rewind and talk about the actual fight so first off there was some clout chasing going on. Oh we talked about this last week. We talked about this last episode. So we don't have to go to in-depth people do not listen to our little rant are so box speech there was cloud chasing going on a lot of people outside the venue acting like they inside the venue. Like all right man like you take your picture that you little youtube videos while you chasing you around casino. I get it. I get it but I don't get outside of the cloud chasers that just elevated us and me personally drake to new levels of petty this fight week because you know what the glow up is real dry. You posted the picture on social media yesterday. If you guys are listening and haven't seen a check it out me. Andreas his Ponder before the fight and she reminded us. It's been like ten years solid eight since we've been kind of on his grind and like seeing each other just make different steps and doing different. Things and ponder was on the second episode of the corner. Podcast is our guest. That's right. She was when she didn't have to be anything she just did us a solid and came on. She was our second guess. First Week was big Mac. Second Week Christina Ponder so she was there from the start she seen so much In terms of you know the show itself and then what we do outside their show and how we've grown from you know you with Damn near ten different outlets to now be in the senior editor of one or not only one but two major platforms me at. Espn hurt Shit. Rocketing past all of us and being on TV just just crushing it. Right like her everything. Just what she has been able to accomplish is incredible all while you know. I guess the relatively same. You guys both started families and just it's been a whole growing up. Maturity type process in that picture was so dope because of that and it was just like damn. Yeah like you know what we been through some shit but now we hear the globe is Real. I ain't guilty. I still on a state. I got a picture Elaine took a picture of me when I was like prepping on I take stage in the house. Like yes I'm at the desk sportscenter here I take is on the Mat and then fight night at the post my my minor flex you know. Just real quick. My name on the apron like Like no tables this week what ringside while the damn near fell in my lap. Drake got knocked down. He was right there right there. Little swam your forehead sainted wild side. I'm telling you so. I feel like we had to you know especially when we're going to get into the week that was for you. But you know we kind of have to puff our chest up a little bit like you know what fuck that we here. We got to let people know we're here. Yeah again you know. Somebody's told me recently to own worn nobody else before you and I'm really modest man like I've done a lot of things but you know I've talked about on the show. Forcefully forced. Come on my show a lot like I don't do it a whole lot somebody. Somebody challenged me social media. But I felt like this particularly day as we were walking as being you were walking. Check out the urban loitering and Christina octo. Because we're going to take a picture and I Christine. I was just like Oh in my head. I think we've really come a long way in this particular space because we were like. Yeah I've been covering by for a while but now we've moved into home positions of power. I guess where you know which we'll talk about like I ask the first question. The press conference Christina is like killing it One of the first women on commentary full-time and then you overhear Espn Readiness Social Media County just Kinda crushing on digital so to see that. Come together in a post sales three keys had a dream and just kind of manifested and we made this should have reality. And it's like the triple threat because you're any SPS's a top ranking. I'm at the zone as fortnum suicide like to see all of us. We're still cool. And she made a very interesting point that stuck with me 'cause she was like you know as the old guard goes away. We are becoming the new guard. They will become the old guard but as cargoes way like the old guard sometimes as yet let the young guard in. This is like prevalent everywhere. You know whether it's hip hop whether it's journalism in general like sometimes they don't want to give up their jobs to the new generation and we've kind of forced are we in especially being minorities we kind of just like. Oh this is going to be in the space because as we talk about a billion times in the show. Aren't that many black people in combat sports not a lot of women in combat sports? Either covering it. You know like the way that we have. But she was like you know now is our chance to usher in the new generation and we have an open door policy where we WANNA put people on you know whether it be fighters as Rin Shawn Porter shopping and does like doozer trying to interview shows. No I'm talking about right here. You know. We saw families like he's got baby number. Two on the way like we have become entrenched in the next generation of fighters in writers and people cover the space and she pointed that out. And I'm like you're absolutely right. And while he was like the perfect week where everybody got to see that all come together because we all were in these strong spaces you know. Obviously the old guard is still going to do guard stuff. And there's still a cool but man that's it we we don't we don't do this shit like we're not pretenders we are here and we are going to open doors for the next wave young journalists. WanNa get in the game. So that's why we took some people looked at like a flex it was but at the same time. We need to know that we are kind of here for you all to. I'm never GONNA be against putting somebody else on and she's not in Kale. You're not so this. This is what we need to do. 'em And you send it from the start. That's always been like the key right. We got to climb high enough to then pull people up with us like sometimes you know you get the door crack in the door. You kick that Shit Open and as soon as you did. I've run through all of them and I've been telling you every interview I've had they've asked me about you. We were just talking to Peter Peter this week and we're talking. Yeah Yeah Peter. We're talking to Peter this week at the fights in there for a Mani manages Amman. I met him when he was at Zander's fight. But talking like you. I know you like you're so familiar. And all this stuff and I was like man. I don't know how we know. Each other boom Lo and behold. Because he you like this is just usually how the stuff goes it just shows like and people could feel how however they want 'em we'll dive into it here right after. I say this but you and your voice and it shows times like what happened this week. How how big and how powerful your voice is but the fact that it seen heard and this is such a polarizing on many platforms. And what you do you don't even realize it but your voice is so big that it does allow an open the doors for other people to just go right behind you and be like cool and be comfortable in that space. That's alive man. I mean I know like I don't really get it all. I like when it happens like when things like this happen. Just kinda deal with as it happens so when you say stuff like that and when Peterson stuff like that people say stuff like that I it doesn't really resonate into light. Never take a breath and step back and say. Wow you know what you're right. Oh because I don't know because I stood for me. I'm scratching and clawing like I'm still trying to prove myself. So there's a part of me we shit like what we're about to talk about happens in departments like man. Did I really like did I? Black Ball myself from certain group of individuals. Because think about fuck. Because I'm no good at what I do and anybody who doesn't thing I'm GonNa do that's fine. That's cool if you don't believe it but you know my paycheck is good and you see me and working my ass off and I'm going to be any spaces and you're just gonNa have to deal with me whether you like me. And that's what I kind of realized this week is like there were a lot of people estimates. Say so I guess you know. Let's talk about. I'll let you tell you and then I'll really tell everything that went into what happened this week. All right so it all starts in. I'm going to paint the picture for me watching from afar. I am side. Stage OF WILDER FURY PRESS CONFERENCE AND. They're taking videos. I'm chilling getting unique angles and stuff and they go through. They have funny moments. I'm chilling trying to edit something on my phone. You know. Get a little viral tweet going out and I looked up and they're like we'll be taking questions earlier in the day. You kind of prepped. Me and you like Yo. They they want to ask a question at this presser. I might ask the question of the all right but I did not know at that time. I know only be like two questions. Asset this press conference so that's one of two questions you get the Mike I so I'm like Oh let me see. Let me go dray. What is he going to say? And you as the Anti Wilder what I thought was a very reasonable and normal last question a follow up of something. He said on the on the road to fury wilder too little documentary series that they had out which was is black. History like data messed up because he's black history month so I'm making a black history month. Trivia question was wild as you ask him like. Okay so how do you really feel about fighting in black history month? Kind of paraphrasing. Just what does that mean you will go into exactly what he said and I was like. That's a dope. Ask Question Cool. I knew where it was formulated from because while there had been talking about this several times you talk to them the day before about this no one. I understand that not. Everyone understands that context behind the question or people just tend to ignore that context twitter especially social media especially does not care to dig in to the nuances of a question like that you ask it while they gives you a normal answer. Fury cuts him off response to the question that you just asked Wilder Not Tyson fury and tells you or tells everyone that this is not a black versus white fighter thing this is a man versus man thing and he will not partake in any type of race conversation for this fight one. He wasn't asked that question but cool. That's your response as good. I don't think he's really. I didn't hear prior to that his stance on that topic. It was a good answer. No harm no foul onto the next guy's question. This is where your mentions blow the fuck up and this is where. I talked to you because over for the next three four days it was whole. Larry is to just see a one point. You had like eight thousand notifications nut so so here. Here's my son. Yes so Monday. I got a chance to sit down with Tyson fury for zone Germany because Jeremy team was streaming the the fight so I got to sit down with fury for that televised portion of it. Tuesday I gotta change the wilder now on Tuesday because black history month and I wear black prior closed at a Black Panther sweater on I was wearing a black panther sweater. The onset comes in with his firm with no shirt underneath his chains on it and as we go to the interview Deonte like kind of point sees my sweater and Tim Smith. Who's a black dude that works for PVC and runs all the Pr Department? There Tim he notices. Well he's cool and as we stand taking pictures and I was like you know what I've never. I've never taken in Dante kind of like. Here's looks like excellence. All right cool so we take a picture and we posted and I was like. This is because you know shit. I'm not picking sides but I have to support my brother's been through all this and is very proud of this now. After the interview we talk about black history month and he's just like this big big deal like I want to go down and black history knows a bunch of other words says while Shit sometimes but I remember that and I'm thinking like Oh you know if I get a chance to ask you this publicly I will. I didn't know it was asking the press conference question at the time the following morning Evan Corn. Pr From Top. Rank tells me like. Can you ask a question? The press conference. I say sure. Now's the press. Conference is going and as you remember this like. Wow because you're pushing and shoving each other call each other names and this is a nasty televised broadcast. I mean press conference Kevin. Sitting next me. Do you have your question. And I'm looking at them pushing shoving him like no because initially. I kind of think leaning towards like animosity because I didn't expect this to happen as it keeps going like. You know what I'm just GonNa ask this question because it'd be a good sound bite because I don't know how much talent went ahead and I could use it for my own story. And so I get the give me the MIC. That's in the question is you know you've had a Lotta viral moments. From to this day you had a big moments with knockdowns in the first fight and now you're getting the opportunity to face. Tyson fury on black history month. What does that mean to you? And that's when he the WanNa make them obliges trivia question. Now what I didn't know until later was Tyson. Fury was getting needle that by Jason. Whitlock maybe fifteen before the press conference on this beefy Celsius and I'm glad across with Llahu because women on site but I guess kept talking about the black white thing. That's Tyson kind of said the line that he said to me there so I guess he was hyper sensitive about race but again like you said. The question was directed towards you the response. Whatever is fine if you feel like you need to answer that sure. My question is is very was knockout. You're expected to win by decision. Candioti wilder winning decision. Like what is the likelihood have thought about that entice? You just completely doesn't answer that question and it talks about the race thing as I'm going back seat like a few people sent me videos of me asking a question. I start hearing groans. I start hearing like things and then my social media blows up and I'm like what the fuck is going on and people tell me they're upset. Us question. I said who say oh you know the higher ups who then like other people you know. Why did you ask why they want to know why? Us nobody ever approached me was like why did you ask that question? Everybody was just like somebody wanted to know why you ask that question. I said who who if somebody has a problem with the question. Come to me I will tell you. Please don't send messages to talk to me. Because they know me. I'm not really that much of a standoff ish guy but also not the friendliest guy so I don't just go out of my way to talk to people but if you have an issue come see me and it's not going to be like some brush. I just WanNa know so this. Nobody says anything. Now I get a video when I hear some. Uk guys like all the stabbing asking that question then. Somebody sends me an article that was on like heavy dot com. I was race baiting. Tyson fury and I was insinuating a race war then I was getting like Michael Benson from bt Sport talksport in UK. Po Census Fury is not going to engage in race conversation. That was the tweet that just kind of broke everything. Because it's video of me. Asking the question is tag me in the video so now I look at my mentions and you know I guess on your tweet you like twenty plus and that's it actually was ridiculous. It was like show more show more and I was like what I'm looking at all of these tweets. I'm getting threats. I'm getting called like coon inwards about my obviously all these massive counts coming at me right all these ghosts accounts. But then there's other was like why would you do that? You global all these people and then when I show up the next day because after Wednesday was Thursday under-car press conference. I think I saw you a little bit into that. And more people like so now. The black riders are like. That was a great question. I don't know what the chicken about and I'm like who's tripping like. What the fuck you tom out. And they're like oh well if somebody asks me who. I'm like. Yo who is asking all these questions about me. They know me as a Fox. Espn top rank. Oh she's you know they they they they and then I'm getting texts from like people in other states like sending texts me in this video and articles to me in like the. There's an article uses my name is Andrea Hale insinuates. Deontay wilder can't win a decision white judges on black history month. What Joe what a stretch. Then there was another article that said Andreas Hill asked. If deontay wilder will take great pride and beaten the big white hope on black history month. I never asked this question dog in never happen. So all of these people got hyper sensitive about this and the piece though like outside of your question that would have been a dove article if that person actually right yeah right but it was just like all these people and even as we're doing this show right now from the star of the show. I have thirty nine mentioned specifically about that. The fight is over. People is done. There are thirty seven minutes from the time I started this conversation. I'm just looking at it right now. On top of that people have dug up my post from the Koby covens tomorrow. Use men fight. It was like it didn't work out in your favor now did it. Or that's why you black. It was like somebody called me spade. Like what is this called a spade in Geelong next missed it because it got to the point where I just couldn't even scroll through gave up like I was like I can't. I can't even read all this shit but I've been called so many names and people like an again emails from people. I don't know even know how few working mill they found emails. We email me like I've got like your brand of racism in your racist and I'm calling your job to get you fired so just like Houston Covington thing. Disown is getting emails about me but guess what people they liked me. They know who I am and what I bring to the table so the people that didn't like fuck him if you didn't come to me and then you had issue with it fuck you and if you endorse me. I'm happy that's cool. We're on the same team. But that's never going to stop me from doing what the fuck do. And that was like the most innocent question ever because if you ask Kinetico about fighting on Cinco de Maya. Was that a problem. Somebody was like this black history of this race. Listen man says celebration of the contributions to the culture of African Americans shortest fucking month of the year. Can we get fucking bone please? I can't ask if we KINDA McGregor about fighting on Saint Patrick's Day is that a problem. If it's Chinese New Year and there's a Chinese fighter fighting we ask him. Is that an issue. But for some reason people felt like as a black man and being who? I am asking a black fighter. Who's very proud black man? It doesn't make us any white but asking this question about this opportunity to make history in a month. We're don't usually fight for the biggest fight of the year in February doesn't really happen. May with the took over single Demayo in Mexican Independence Day black vinyl using final February. That's why I question because this was the biggest heavyweight fight in recent memory. Maybe this past twenty years. That's why is this question. But now I'm branded as Rhesus congratulations. Kill you on a podcast with a racist called a day I S. oh some girl. That was a trump. Don't even spell. Call me a bigot with an e I was like sweetheart spell. I when you start coming at me. Thanks men's me. Do Your Simon over intern. Anybody in the Business Day and on Thursday you had todd. Oh yeah time time because the press conference is GonNa fire him back like an again. A lot of people ask me like you. Why do you do this and I think the main reason? Sometimes why do this is because I need some of your see how this world works because we also have social media being these curated experience we only deal with people you know but because I work at so many different fields like boxing music culture film like Info? Because I've done all of these different things people that follow me for different reasons. There's a lot of times when people follow me for like MMA and. They're getting really really surprised when I started talking about culture and politics and be like oh they got what they wanNA attack me so every now and then when I look through my mentions which every day I get something very disrespectful but on this particular day I was like oh out of these eight thousand mentions I'M GONNA pick a couple of these cats L. and they'll ask him questions like Oh and I'm GonNa see you bucks. Obviously someone goes council. You know a fall for the trap shooting but other times they engage. Somebody told me that a white people the only one. They're trying to absolve races of people like you. The reason why still alive and I was like Oh. Is this a ghost county three thousand follow? It was like a real person knowing people really think that. It's wow with people think someone deontay lost so many messages like that linked to to say how do you feel? Oh ha ha your guy lost. And I'm like I just gave fury all the credit in the world. I didn't have a dog in the race. Link that of course I'd like to see why but I'm a journalist like I'm not picking sides. I think he's a fantastic fighter. He might be one of the greatest heavyweights of all time. So I'm like I'm not hurt but you guys really think this was like a race war. It wasn't that this was a great fight if DNC may black history fantastic. I would've been happy for him but man. Oh Oh on top of that. Dc walked out with them which I found out earlier in the day and I kind of alluded to it which we deontay is going to walk out and bring the smoke with them and I was Lu- because I knew people hit me like this is your doing. No it's not my doing but I'm happy to see it because that is welcome out in the black habits like black excellence like why are people offended by black? Excellence wire people so affect offended by this especially like why people like as the key you can be pro black and not be anti white. If you're not mutually exclusive. Somebody was like I'll bet my bottom dollar. You have no white friends. Are you nuts. I'm not that got run around. We got white friends but listen shake from two. Boys was the best man in my wedding. Come along people relax. My Grandmother Was White Semi Racist White and she was white woman. But it's like I don't I don't like I don't do that L. Just not lightweight who can say why because Jason Whitlock is at the top of my head list and he's black. There's nothing to do with this. I mean tally but some of these people really while with this shit. So yeah. That's what I had to deal with this week. And you know and then having to deal with that bar issue after all that Jesus Christ man and the Alpha real but I guess. I'm doing something right because nobody nobody pay attention so last year. We are exactly. That's the key. If you were no one. No one would have paid attention. You got the Mike for a reason you again. They give you the MIC to get good questions talking points and to sell the fight for better or worse you hit all three so whether they like it or not. You did the job they wanted done. You could have said so. Let me get your prediction for tomorrow or for Saturday night's fight and then told you the same thing I'm knocking out into is what fury would've said while he going to sleep like some stupid like cool man like it would've been the same regurgitate answer. You Gotta question that gave a different context and nuance to the story. Being told now it is a definitively not going to be painted a black versus white fight cool but we have quotes from both people explaining how they feel about it while they're still said he wanted to make him a black history month trivia question and then came out with one of the most black enters. You'll ever see people. Hey so so he wanted to make it a celebration of blackness not anti fear you're anti white. He said I want my name. Pretty Mu- I want my name to go down in the history of black history month. It just so happens that ties fury is white and he asked the catch is work is what he went into the fight. Say Not that. Oh it's it's going to be black history with cutlets. White Guy knows going to be black history. 'cause it's the best two heavyweights in the world. And I'M GONNA win. Somebody asked me that question. Would you ask? That question was another black man. Yes listen the blacks fights all time the middle? Lots of everybody was Ali. Frazier and I wasn't alive at the time for that fight to happen if I happened during black history month. That's a moment in black history so yes same damn question because it wasn't just the opponent it was the caliber of opponent like as we move into talking about wild fury. We haven't had two heavyweights undefeated. In their primes. One was a lineal champion. Who was a former unified champion? Never lost ties with the rank and the other was heavy. Wbz heavyweight champion contrast in styles. Like there were so many things that we've never had since maybe bowe-holyfield something that you guys went at it and killed each other in the ring and prior to that it was Ali Frazier one and the parallels between this is wild up doing a piece on this the parallels between Tyson fury's career Mohammed. Ali's career are ridiculous and people are going to what let me explain really quick Tyson. Fury doesn't fight like a heavyweight Muhammad. Ali Doesn't headway both are constantly. Show me who love to talk shit. Who Love to be flamboyant. Ali Entice viewers the same guy. Tyson fury became champion by beating. A Guy who had reigned over division Klitschko with an iron fist was I manhandled loss. Eileen BE SUNNY LISTEN. Nobody thought he could beat to become the champion. Both men this way differ took three years away from the sport. I leave because he does. The draft tastes really 'cause like cocaine but they took three years away from the sport came back both had to tuna fight both of them before they fought the most feared puncher in the heavyweight division. Ali Frazier Tyson fury with deontay wilder. Both of them had very close fight. Both of them went down in the last round. Ali Frazier in the Fifteenth Round With Frazier. Call the left took Tyson. Fury went down with Johnson combination in the twelfth round with where they differ. Is that frazier beat? Ali Tyson fury at the time denouncing welder in the rematch both Ali Tyson fury. One in his crazy how close these parallels are. That's ridiculous so why is the water fighting this man of black history month? Why would that not be a moment in black history? Yeah I mean. It's as much as when Ali lost right. It would have been like that if he could be in Tyson fury but now we see Tyson fury. We'll get into the nuts and bolts of the fight but Tyson fury is the winner and we see that okay just adds a layer of a story to something. We're GONNA look back forty years from that forty years from now when when there's an hour long special on ESPN classics about this trilogy. Your your question will be in their. How wild is that Shit like? I was just digging through the Ali ones because it was Ali's birthday not too long ago and watching we have so much content on Ali. You know top rank etc and you you wash these things and you see these interviews. You see these questions. You see the response they get and you generated a question where gave so much. I don't know such an impassioned response. Tyson fury so when they're talking and they have shit probably mean you sitting down in front of the camera reminiscing about the fight and we'd be like you know what this is a battle between two of the best heavyweights and unlike the heavyweight heavyweight contest before it wasn't about race Tyson. Fury made sure it was about two of the best mate and then boom. They will play your question in the clip. And then we're going to roll into it so like that is crazy. But that's historic and the BUZZER created. Now is only going to push that further throughout the years. So yeah we'll be here forty to talk about that Shit and we'll laugh about it like remember how bad the focus were and they stilling tell you who was mad until you found out. I probably won't get the opportunity to ask a question again. That's probably going to be the longest shortest it but come on man like if you got if you really have a problem with what I said anybody they talk to me. Don't tweet me from account like ask me and like Peter. Kann like a lot of the people that live the white people immediately. They talked to me about it. The only person that asked me Mccoy who mazes guys like cow. He's been the boxing you forever. He's a brother Jesse question and I told them why he's like okay. I gave us like really here and I just heard people were mad at you and I was like Ooh and he was just like people like UK British man showing these. He's like. Don't worry about it but I want to ask you do if you ask me. I'm going to tell you I asked question but I didn't even think of these. That must explaining from the beginning but again we are so that was a beginning of your eventful week and then the week plays out and we get to fight night and we meet up at the fight. We're chilling. I've done a lot of my prep work. You get there you put your bag down to a little bit of work and we decided you know what let's go. Check out the urban leader. And he's seen like in fuck. We got like an hour. Let's let's just go take a lap around the MGM which we do all the time randomly so cool so we the fight. There's like some undercard fight going on where I'm like. I'm not gathering content from this. Let's go so we decided to take a lap. Andrey it is official. Irvine loitering was back. I felt like it was mayweather weekend again and this February. It's not even hot. That's Oh the funniest thing we saw probably was the cougar squad. Yeah Oh they were at least fifty five dress like they were twenty five. There was one that looked like fifty five year old. Megan the stallion like she just had crazy. Cheetah print. Just cut all in the middle. Try to have the boobs out. She looked like she was about six five. It was it was wild. Like shoot but she thought she was the Shit and you know what power to her. There is no age on fatness at all. I promise you that her thing was like come. Get this young man like I. I just know that that was her whole week. That was her gimmick for the entire. Come get this working man. Oh she was trying to catch them catch some late in the game. That was our hail Mary she was like. Yeah I only only got so many more of these left in me. Let me throw this freak of just ought to see what I get big ones some shots at night. It was a cruel evil. It's not even like she was Dolo. There's like four of the whole. They're rolling deep like they've been doing this ship for years like they wouldn't let that back like the Tyson fights what you talk about like Yo. I used to go the Lavi Dir. The Tyson's fights with your younger she was in the MGM. Lavi during those tights and fights same dress. She liked what she she went to the Tyson. Fight in ninety two with that. Same Dressler. She went home. She put this ship closet. I'm where this at the next best heavyweight fight. She had to wait three decades for that shit when the closet was like old friend and she just dusted that shit off. Put it right back on. She's the weight aware that fit. Because they were Larry. We saw three people get arrested. One do press credential you know. Let's let's listen like you have never been so big fight and maybe you've been to a fight like whenever say you live in which may not be Vegas or New York and I actually. I'll take L. A. Off The list because only New York in Vegas and clearly vegas is the top dog when it comes to these fight nights. If you've never experienced one put it on your book this and if it's going to be on your bucket list I don't this may sound certainly Misha's black fighter in the main event because specifically because like a pack your fight brings a different group. People out it's not. The same kind of urban loitering is loitering Mexicans mixed when when can notify? It's fun. Don't get me wrong. Come to those two when it's like mayweather and now like deontay wilder brings out a whole different group ignorance and it. It's likely you'll be scared. No this sheet is fun because it's like it's like Diet Freaknik and like the source awards all that one because you've got a bunch of people who don't know how to act because Vegas doesn't necessarily have like a huge black contingency so when we get something we don't know what to do within like NBA. All Star weekend with like. We tore the city down. 'cause we didn't know what the Hell we're doing like there was a cloud of smoke in the twenty four hours a day but this was like they hadn't had any so long. So you had like like all dues pimp hats and you had like change and then you had like and then obviously you know the younger generation like with the young white dues ad hoc Assan drunk off the ads trying to fight you. We almost like a destroyed right outside the place. Y- do got choked. Guy Just put put his hand on his throat but the guy had mad reach but yeah the the white dude in the in the premium pauper. Suit was seven to this black dude in a tracksuit suit and the black guy was like what the white dude like shoved his check or whatever and then the black guy felt it was his his duty to defend his woman and then the Baiju got up and he he did the Tyson fury point over the banister like he was talking. Show the other NOCCO fight and then he he went around the rail and I was like Oh shit is about to go down. And then why do like started touching him slamming his arms and she hit the Black Guy. Just choke them real soft though. Just choke the lead knows. Hand was there and they just looked at it was like are they gonna fight and then boom just walk their separate ways then and listen. Listen this is why you listen to this podcast because there's no other boxing podcasts and embraces this kind of chaos except for us. Because we don't leave when that should happen. It's like if people start running iron. That's acting anything but when it's like when I see like drunk people getting ready to fight like we were sitting there with like the proper twelve and we you know we just looked and we've spectators and I was like and you know we. We could talk about this because I'm a part of this culture and I and I love you. I embrace the chaos in that sense like I'm like Oh this is excellent. I grew up like in Vegas and I went to Morehouse and I've done. I've done all these things. I enjoy the chaos and I'm here to bring it to you so yes we haven't even talked about the fight yet. But these are the moments that matter because everybody's talking about the fight that happened. No one's GonNa tell you what we're telling you in that like us because this is our thing this is what we do is. I mean listen notice like cop last pug meiring. Dan Raphael and Kevin Out. They can't talk about this like we do because they're like Wolfgang Puck and having dinner and shit notice back to that because we were suppose. Go there and it's fucking close Kevin for enjoying the spectacle as well but yes. I only listen you guys. If you guys like recap alleys work he's like the Super Bowl and I love Kevin to death and I say this for good reason because he supported me when I was just a young do getting in the and didn't have the support of others. Kevin like reached out to me immediately and he's always been there and we've been friends through the years and so he got. He hung out with us and watch the chaos he was. It was like me him. Or Mondo you can type rank. And then we had like McKenzie in these folks manager. And we're all sitting there watching this chaos and Kevin's just sitting there enjoying it. And he he's not asking he's just he's just there that's it like he was watching a fight damn near thought he was going to just pull out his pen start taking notes and I loved him like we need a post fight opposed pizza. Fight article from Kevin. I only breaking down word for word the VAT is. He's about to pull quotes. Get out the tape recorder. They yes flashing on the table gets a post fight quotes then that was funny that and add to it like yeah like the urban loitering is at its zenith when you have a crazy popular bat black athlete right so mayweather and maybe devante will become. That guy is well Deontay. Wilder urban loitering is amazing on those fights what takes it to another notch is when the UK fans joined the urban loiter. Yes yes like the perfect combination. Mayweather McGregor perfect combination of fans. And I wasn't there for me whether had heard that shit was amazing. And then you get this here while they're fury the UK fan singing chanting. You know how many girls we ended up. Seeing from two o'clock to four o'clock. They had no shoes on. And it's not like you walk them from the club and you carrying any heels in your hand and you're walking through which is bad enough they I don't even know how they get the black off their feet at that point but when I say had no shoes on fan they had no shoes. No shoes in hand no shoes anywhere. They were just barefoot at this point like they were like you know this has been such a fucking wild night and I'm so drunk that I said fuck these heels. I'm leaving them in the club and was walking bare foot through the MGM through the Parking Lot. Which is like basketball BLACKTOP. Gravel to their cars Yo. That shit is crazy. You have left you. I was walking back towards the towards elevators to go up to my room and I'm walking. I got the bottle proper twelve in my hand so people were looking at me. Weird walking up like the magnum bottle. Proper twelve in Chile to do look around being idiot looking at other stuff and I stop and that little bar right by the elevators were opened and it was the craziest. Shit I've ever seen because there was a girl who had every fake body parts could possibly have and lips included white girl long extensions whatever crazy skimpy dress. There was her friend who kind of looked like meagan good and fake hair and everything cool sitting there both had drinks hand. I'm walking by. They look at my bottle proper whiskey. I'm like listen. I'll go enough to bring this to my wife. Don't what don't look at me. I'm the wrong one. They look look at my credential. They look at me. I swear I kid you not the one that looks like making good looks at a friend. Shakes her head. Kind of like gives the hair whip. I'm like what the Fuck is wrong with this woman. Why she does mean Mug me. The wife ran look and I see it like why she meemaw. GimMe this guy is coming towards me. The flyest old guy I've ever seen in my life. Old White Guy has to be like sixty seventy years. Old Sue looks like Tyson fury in the suit. Six three walk. You Pass me looks at says you drinking that I was again. Almost gone is like that proper stuff. Like yeah as like cheers makes me open it. We clink. He has the drinking and we think that they is like. I'M GONNA go pay those women right now. It's going to be a fun night and walks off. I'll just see I got my pizza box. What head the open bottle of proper whiskey? Fuck it I gotta drink to that and it goes back and he walked right up to those women and I guess. They shook their head at me because their scouting like you know he got money away. He got a bottle in his hand. Now he got a credential this fuck working like they looked at me like you know got dough like she she. I've only crazy and this guy was like. Hey Young Fella drink you only got this money right now. I'm GonNa go have fun and sure enough. I did the double take I look back. He sitting there both are one arm over one arm under over the other and the goal. Sheehan like he was trying to your. What's your. What's your fight purse? Which your fight purse. He was about to make a nice little matchup. He's getting his Eddie. Hearn OH my goodness. This guy is a promoter. Not In the boxing world but of other occupations This is Mark Boggling. I was like yeah. That's that's how I end my week. Perfect perfect and I was like this fly seventy year old dudes wherever he is in the MGM. This morning hats off to you sir. Hope you had a blast. I hope they rob you. Put your money in the safe. That's a little different topic. Oh Man Yeah. So that's that's fight week in a nutshell Let's talk about the actual fight to do so. Fight night we start off earlier in the week and we touched on it those pushing at the press conference. They said no face to face at the weigh INS so builds up these different narrative going into the fight. We're concerned by some other things that we saw and heard though Tyson fury was like he's coming in to seventy came in at two seventy three US doing a lot to put on that wait. I'll just say that he wanted to be to seventy so much that he was gonna get there. No matter what so use. You wanted to have that bulk. He wanted to eat more than one would normally probably in a training camp. You Know He. He was doing things to bulk up but he looked good. He looked muscular while doing it when it was time to weigh in. But he didn't take your shirt off that worried a lot of people on a other. Deontay wilder came at two thirty. Which you know. He's been there before but we were so used to seeing him to twelve to fifteen and I really didn't think too much of it as we get into the fight. I think maybe that was more of a glaring issue. Then fury coming over we. Yes possible man. I mean for me for my in from the beginning when met with Tyson on Monday and the conversation that we had when I first talked about weight and I said is the weight gain for you to absorb punches or is it for you to start leaning on data and thing he said you know because I thought it was blowing smoke listening. I believe you really come in to things like no. He's like I'm a fat boy so for me to come down and wait is difficult. Certain point when you get more muscle and you turn the fat into muscle and then you can use it to absorb plexus now my head and I mentioned this to you on fight night. The the fat doesn't cover your Chin and no matter how big you get. The Chen is still going to be suspect. But his thing was he wanted to be able to come forward and use his size to smother the answer because he's clearly the bigger man. I just didn't necessarily think it would work but as I wrote early in the week this was in my head. I had no idea what's going to happen is fight. Say because I was like well. You got to be perfect thirty six minutes. I don't know if you can keep that up. For twelve rounds without getting caught up it could be onsite clearly. I was wrong But yeah the weight thing and then the the way in day the shirt. I didn't like that obviously changing trainers from Ben Davidson the sugarhill. I was like a lot of things here. Deonte was like that's nervous energy and I was just like Kinda agreed. I listen man. I was wrong. Mike Tyson knew exactly what he was doing from the beginning and the thing that got me is after the first fight. I think we talked about it on this show and I know I wrote about his well after the first fight. I said fury is going to have a much easier time. We wild in the second time around directly after the first fight I said that because he spent twelve rounds with him. He's GonNa make adjustments and he's going to win the fight the where I got hoodwinked and bamboozled was me watching the onset wilder. Kill two men along the way and I was like what he just murdered. Two men I'm going to pick our bodies on his resume and Tyson had the fight with him and he had to fight with Schwartz and I was like I didn't see much improvement. Wildest killing people but little did I know the Tyson was just getting his conditioning and getting himself ready food. The ultimate fight and everything that he said came to fruition and he beat the Shit. Outta deontay wilder no dominant to a point where I was just in all so. I'm watching the fight and it's happening right in front of me. So it's it's one of those weird things we watch. Mma fights pretty close like as media were very close to the octagon. There's only like three rows Boxing this fight excluded because for some reason they built risers and put you guys dumb. Far It was like the inside can notify. They didn't put any media ringside they put all of us in the risers which is fine because at least in the rise and we could see the ring but yet never really that far back anyway you know so you you guys are ways back but usually about four rose five rows back. On the floor. I'm now getting used to seeing fights from ringside from the Apron and this shit is wild. Every time I was talking to my dad earlier today like how I was like. It's crazy because I could only get closer if I allow someone to punch me in the face like I would have to be a fighter. That's the only way I can get closer than where I am to the action. And it's like being watching like the Patriots in the Super Bowl or watching your niners and a super bowl and you love the game all your life and then them saying you know what dre you gotTa ride about this or you gotta do your normal work. But we're going to put you right behind. Tom Brady or right behind. Garoppolo at center and then see what your perspective is. And they're going to be moving. They're not gonNA touch you but that's just going to happen right in front. It's wild to see and these guys were just so big. It was different when I was there with. Teo Fee and watching Crawford and everything. 'cause they look like normal size people drink very small in real life but look like normal size people when fighting in the ring. These guys look like two giants fighting and it should just. I felt it was hard. I didn't have to score the fight which was great but watching how it played out. You see the smallest of things like you'll see the anti wildest chest after the second round before even hitting the ear his chest and the way he was breathing. You're like it's not right like you can see whoever and see his mouth. Ob you could see the separation between his bottom lip in his mouth piece. Which allowed for Tyson fury buses lip like it was super easy. Why was it super easy? Because he wasn't closing his mouth there was no there was no biting down on the mouthpiece nothing. He couldn't breathe out his nose. The males breathing out of his mouth entire time. And you see this then. His fight has LIPKA's busted open. And you know why against subtle things you could see being that close at. Shit is crazy and when you when I was watching the house like he's not GonNa make the power won't be there in the. What was it last time tonight? In the twelfth round his gas tank was gone after two. And then you throw in getting hidden ear enticing fear I feel like more than anything. Tyson fury gained that weight to lean on him to try to bully him but then he found out. You'll listen. It doesn't matter what weight I am. He's gassing himself out and he knew that wasn't the version of deontay wilder who fought the first time he knew this wasn't the best the onto wilder and he said I'm putting the pedal to the metal. He's not going to hurt me today because he took a couple right hands flush and was like wait. I'm still standing in the second round. He got hit with two thirty got hit with one measured up left hand on the Chin right hand. Following boom usually puts everyone out. Tyson guy. Hit looked around like Yoho. I didn't even go down. And at that moment. He knew I'm good. Wilder wasn't the same. You may say you made it very interesting point and I hate to harp on this but this for whatever reason immediately ethic ooh maybe midway through the second round I remember tear into Eilly Raphael innocent. Some may right. And that's something we say. Something's wrong and this is not to take away from. Tyson fury to clean no off nights but it felt like something was off it. Just maybe wasn't his Knights but even the jab felt slow he was doing the Jab Jab bodies. I Floyd does a lot yup any which I like. I like that game playing chain. Yes I like I said it I say thank you. But he's leaving it out there for a long time and it doesn't have that whip like snap to and I'm like what something's wrong. Something's just not right about. Yeah no twitch fast twitch it. I don't know like I heard this doesn't mean anything because he hasn't used as an excuse me. It was like fighting. You know like a flu or something like that early in the week but he was allegedly sick during the first fight. So the restaurant. I don't know but it just felt like something wasn't right now. I WanNa Pref- is all of this before he's like talking about ring inches and everything else is boxing. Once again is the one sport we nobody knows shit but after a big fight everybody has all the answers that wash the got exposed A bomb he didn't train for this fight. Like I've heard the most asinine things from people that I know have not watched enough boxing that have come out of the woodworks to tell me that the bom and he was never good in the first place. No you don't get that kind of record being a bum. You don't almost massacre Tyson during the first bite by being a bump. He's one-dimensional fighting. Let's just cut to the chase. When this white happened. People said Johnson while to got exposed. I hate when people say fighters got exposed when they lose one fight. I use my example. Eighty five bears were team that you do exactly what the fuck they were doing. Every Down Walter. Payton was getting the ball in on the defense. They were crushing. You with their Li- like you knew what the game plan was. It was your job to stop it. Nobody could stop it. The dolphins diddy in one of the weirdest games I saw much later because I was a kid. I did not watch it but I started with. I used to obsess over like eighty six giants. Eighty-five bears I used to watch all these games. This particular game. The bears doing the deed but like Dan Marino was on fire and balls. Ricocheting off a players. I think there was like a Mark Clayton. Ricochets Mark Clayton. Kershaw ran for a touchdown. They ended up blowing up the bears. I think they beat them. Thirty eight twenty seven. I think the game was and you know I think the talk after Mike. Singleton was talking about like everything just kind of went their way. There was nothing we could do about it. The bears didn't expose you know what the bears there. They went back to. Exactly what they did. Nobody CA stop it. They shut out two teams in the playoffs and the massacre the Patriots in Super Bowl. That's not getting exposed. Shit happens and the term exposed with that you basically have the cheat code to know how to beat somebody and you can give it to somebody else. They can do the same shit. Tyson fury 6-foot-9. Nearly three hundred pounds moves like a welterweight has a boxing skills that are better than most people have ever seen in their lifetime. An Ironclad Shannon. A huge boxing. I Q you can't give that shift to Andy Ruiz and Andy. Ruiz does the same thing that you can't give that shift to Anthony Joshua Anthony. Joshua does the same thing. Drc water because he doesn't have the Chin defense so for people to say that while you got exposed go ahead and put the rest of the division in front of Wilder and watch. What happens because that Game Plan? You can expose something. That's been laid out in plain sight for his entire career. It's not like you never knew that the right hand was there. It was just your job to avoid it like the eighty five bears gonNA run the ball down your throat. It was your job to stay away from deontay wilder right hand. Luis Ortiz did for six and a half rounds and then the lights went off. Dominic Brazil tried it for like two minutes thirty two seconds and then he died. Everybody else's stood in front of water. You know what I'm doing. Okay and then. All of a sudden boom lights go out. There was no need for a plan. B You see like the Ottawa as you can see. You can't turn this man in the Floyd Mayweather. People get a new trainer which may be true. We'll talk about in a second. But this who he is and who he is has demolished an entire division except for one man who was a generational talent. How dare you guys say this man got exposed? He lost if he loses every fight. Like this moving forward then gets exposed. That's that's fair. If everybody comes in and use the same game plan beats the wilder. Then I'll say yet. Thais fear expose them but I don't think any other heavyweight on this planet right now can say wilder. That's not getting spos- that's just getting beat by the better man. And just got his ass kicked and people say I don't want to see the remastered might be exactly the same. Maybe maybe not because the problem is dancing while still has won the greatest equalizers in all of sports with that right hand who knows he could catch Tyson fury in the rematch. And say y'all go by y'all y'all just sitting there just being an NFL news right now. Because if I just happened yesterday but as soon as they announced his shit and beyond and somebody says Johnson was tonight. But it's going to be on this time you're GONNA buy the fucking pay per view so stop missed. Call this man expose man like start treating them like a bums its substance. He didn't train. I know deontay trained. This was a floyd mayweather vs McGregor. The honestly trained is ask. Why do you have a plan B? Because I'm on the fuck has needed one at all. He just he hasn't needed one in some guys just clearly they don't have that. That floyd mayweather gear. And I always use floyd. Andre Ward has gear where he fights and basically he's his own corner man as a fight is going. He downloads information. Computer Floyd does it. Aero does it does it. Did it Entice affair. He doesn't. He makes his adjustments on the fly. And that's what he did. Nobody got exposed guys. Cut The fuck out. Yeah he can out think anyone in the heavyweight division so before you put any physical skills into this. He is ring. I Q the smartest boxer in the heavyweight division. So he's going to solve that puzzle and this showed me physically only thing I thought was okay. He wants to go in there and slug with deontay wilder. He dissected the information from the first fight said I fought my perfect fight as defensive fighter. And it got me your draw. That's not the way to beat this man if I do that again. I'm going to get a draw or beat or knocked out said. How do you beat him then? Went to the drawing board. I gotTA get bigger. I got a pressure him. I gotta take the fight to him and if you knocked me out that way then shit. He's good but if not I believe that this is the way to beat him and I thought you know what it makes sense mentally. He's very smart. I don't know physically if he could fight that fight. Well question answered physically. He could be the best defensive fighter. What best defensive heavyweight we've seen of this generation. Oh and by the way if he wants to stand in bang he can so he can do what he did against Klitschko and run around the ring and get like four punches around and beecher asked or if he chooses to he kim game about fifteen pounds of sit there and bang which you and say you know what we're GONNA have a slug fest and I can win that way too. That's pretty damn impressive again. Man I don't. I've never seen a heavyweight with these tools and the career is over so it's hard to start ranking him among the great heavyweights because what this fight was was. It was one way traffic. And we don't know like rematch could be different Fury could Anthony Joshua and he could lose. We have no idea but right. Now we're looking at a generational talent. We've never seen a guy. This is move like this ever. This is nuts. The things that he does are pretty incredible and he joked about it. Yes so much with Fatman with pillow phys. You put like three hundred pounds. And she's going to hurt period and throw a punch and that's what types of does he he so he's really really really good and like somebody a hit me on facebook Links Lewis and Mike. Tyson beat the shit out is very sure about that. I you Sir because I think again when we always talk about like old fighters old basketball players like everybody watches highlights and like like people say Labor was trashy get Washington lead today. You sure about that. Did you ever really watch Larry Bird play? 'cause they were chuck it three point if Labor play for the fucking rocket average. Like fifty points a game. He wouldn't you would. Annihilate teams was a stretch bird would stretch five right now like he wouldn't be murdering people. What's but there's people say Larry Bird's way and same thing when people say that Mike Tyson in will I beat up Tyson fury and I'm like well listen guys? Mike Tyson's prime years like Mike. Tyson did that ship sailed by the time he was like twenty five. It was over. The run was short brutal and it ended so quick and Mike was never really the same again he beat Frank Bruno twice that war with razor Ruddick And guys like I'm talking about this. Watch all this. I don't talk about is I watch highlights. I have like all the Tyson's fights all holyfield's fights. I have watched every single one of them that I could. There are a few that you can't find but I've seen Tyson fury fight and this says his footwork is wet and I'm like you don't watch boxing. Could you possibly fury's fillmore? Because I've never seen a heavyweight move like this. The older famous are incredible. By the way the only heavyweight D- I could think of that. I mean 'cause it was Ali was amazing. It's upper body. Movie was fantastic. Jab was incredible. I'll never went to the body. Goes Tapes Alley? Never hit anybody in the body. And he's still everybody when James. Toney moved up to heavyweight but he was a fucking middleweight when he started his career and he was a brilliant light counterpuncher he catches shoot like he was phenomenal. But they're very few defensive boxers in the history of the heavyweight division that can move like theory they can avoid punishment like fury that have Chin like fury. Come on guys. You think. I'm not saying that. Might Point five nine types of you would have got them foot on them. You think very would know how to work with that yellow wild. Let's listen glass jaw. I'll McCall put his ass out. I've seen rotman put his ass out. I I'm not. I'm not saying that Lennox would definitely lose. But don't let Mike Tyson. Fury has no chance in this fight. That man is amazing. I say that to say this. That people are saying. Waller's sucks is a bomb. He just fought arguably one of the greatest heavyweights we've ever seen and lost the first time you damn near one and you know I am tired tired tired just like I'm tired and Bass Walton time. A few will saying this person cannot be the greatest all time because they've lost NBA finals. Just because Jordan has never know what what is one of these day. Someone's going to be better enjoyed it and they might lose one finals but they may win seven so you know what kick that shouldn't ask it that whole rhetoric. Outta here because you know what sometimes people lose. That's okay wild could lose hit the immediate rematch comeback. Knock very out in three rounds. Get THAT BILL BACK. And then what yeah now? Is he any less great? That everybody's back on the hype train right then. This is one of the greatest trilogies we've seen in boxing history. We saw I. I wish I really don't wish it would have been interesting to see what would have been when there's like sugar Ray Leonard. Vers Roberto Duran. Like what would it be? Settled social media. Then get imagine. Twitter with that. Sheet lender would have been trash. Yeah we I lost it the rand. Yeah because nobody was being durant at one thirty so yeah when when Leonard I also durant was I mean do I have to say this? Mohammed recognizes the greatest fighter of all time by a lot of people and for most people. Maybe Sugary Robson. Sugar in seventeen fights right via seventy five today. People would kill him but he also fought like one hundred nine times which is insane. Mom Elite was called washed up at least three to four times in his career. Because we came back and lost to frazier the first time. They said he came back too soon. He was ready to fight like nine fights and then before he fought fraser again. He Lost Ken Norton and we lost Ken Norton and got his job broke in the first round. Which IS INSANE. And he fought tire fight with a broken. It's not cold become tonight becoming because he didn't fight entire fighting the broken jaw Mohammed. Ali Did and he stayed in that fight but then we lost people like he's done and you went out there and frazier. Then he bought five forming and they said Oh he can't be formed for him just beat the shit out of frazier can't be forman. He's washed up. He's a bum. And what did he do? He beat George Foreman. Imagine social media at all these moments in Mohammed Ali's career when he lost Kim Norton when he lost a Fraser And when he was getting ready to fight forming imagine social media women like 'cause still be relaxed with pulling the trigger thinking. You know everything after one fame. It's nuts now. That's exactly what it is. It's just it's this microwave culture which we talk about and hip hop and everything else. It's just ridiculous. If the man comes out and gets a highlight reel NOCCO. Everyone's back on the bandwagon. People lose in boxing. Just goes flowing. Never lost doesn't mean it's agreed to have an L. on your record so what people love many pack you up to this day. He got memed with Simba over his lifeless body but the Mug is still be sold. The biggest pay per view ever between him in May after being laid out. So it's like chill calm down should happens like for any reason. Wilder was to say you know what fury about taking my rematch. Whatever keep it? Movin wilder fights. Whoever he fights may become come back next year Orlands Anthony Joshua fight for those belts NOCCO. Joshua wilder immediately becomes a hero again. People say we need the trilogy for the fury fight. We needed while there's GonNa beat them. This time like boxing fans especially boxing. Nba Fans because of those two guys Jordan mayweather or just so fickle any losses to end the world lost to Timothy Bradley. We know he lose. He Lost Bounce Back. Just fine like chill-out people need to calm down a little bit before we talk about. What's next in which I guess we'll do that here? In a second. What was your thoughts on the entrances by both guys? We kind of skipped over that. Let's just throw that in while we're talking about the fight itself. Obviously I love de Smoke. I'm a big fan too because I knew he was coming out. I couldn't wait to see what he did. He did like habits. I thought it was great wilder shifty war the dark knight or like there was so many things going through my head was like super shredder. Power Ranger like to me. It was still dope with red around the eyes. I think but I will say Tyson. Fury's entrance fucking amazing like phenomenal right this again. This guy is the consummate showman and now he's already tried to Santa pro wrestling so we Ghezzi like he just completely gets it. I think somebody said on social media which would do this and you're right because this is what makes it fun like hip being carried out and then on and he's dancing like man you look at that and you're like and if you're fighting him you're like well fuck you taking me seriously. Because he's so comfortable. What my as you can do something like this. I thought the interest I thought both of the interests and the fact they showed them on. Espn they show. Both of their ring walks was like the best thing that can happen. Boxing needs pageantry. And you know what that means. Everything is pro fucking wrestling. Everything especially Tyson fury's involve both were amazing men Getting to walk out during the entrances with Both guys right behind. The camera was super cool. That's just kind of hectic it's Weird Weird thing having to backpedal for that long recording them and then like feeling the crowd and just it was. It was nuts like the whole fight. Just felt huge and it'll take a while to kind of judge exactly how big it is compared to some other fights we've been to. I don't I don't know why this is so bigger than patio mayweather to me again that that was such a corporate crowd that it wacked the fight itself out. Yeah I mean this. This gave us celebrities. This gave us actual boxers. This guy was real fans that wanted to see. This may have no real fant. No I mean mayweather. Pacquiao was an absolutely insane like atmosphere. Now there's a couple of things that are because your access was different so you saw through different lands. But yeah I mean there were actual boxing fans and you said it earlier in the U. K. Fans just makes you better right. Like may with the pack. Yeah there's a lot of people sitting on their hands because it's a bunch of rich high rules in the arena that night This fight I mean they were singing sweet caroline which. I'm sick and tired of but they sang that to the top of the loans. There's only one fury I mean they were a wild electric bunch and the clothes that they put their kids in and I specifically say kids because these kids were dressed nuts. Why these kids looked ridiculous but it was. I mean it felt big Anisa. I wrote a piece like the whole fight. Had this unpredictability around in the atmosphere was wild like if felt huge. Donald to pay per view. Numbers are going to be but it felt like a big big big fight. I don't know if it's bigger than me because I feel like the Oscars of boxing. I guess that makes sense where a bunch of people are just rich in there whereas these the freak boxing and see some way like this was absolutely trashed which we don't need to talk about but but somebody has to the main event. The pageantry entrances to two personalities. Guys the fact that nobody knew is going to happen whereas we're may with a packet we all kind of knew the May whether it's going to wash them specifies I do and actually one thing before we move onto. What's next thing? Get Out of here. Would you think about the stoppage? Not the stoppage itself but Mark Berlin. Being the one throw in the towel in his head trainer. Jd's one. I think it was smart to protect the fighter so I know wilder like it. Jd's then like it but when you have that rematch clause in there and you recognize again means me being that close to you being in your seat. Second round where like your. He's off he's done. Something's wrong that's that's not peak wild now. Pete Wilder still might lose to Tyson fury but it looks more like the first fight than this fight. Wilder wasn't himself. He was gassed by the third. It was ugly and he got beat up because of it. When you see that no we will save. Our fighter will live to fight another day now. I think if me being media you being media can see that wilder doesn't have it in the second round. He's trainers in their collective. Should also see this and should then around the fourth round when he gets dropped twice so we dropped with the body blow in the fifth. I believe it was and it wasn't even a hard body blow. He just collapses from exhaustion and then he trips another three times because he doesn't even have the energy in his body to throw a punch. You have to talk to each other between rounds or when you know when he gets back you take the stool out of the ring. He's going back in. You have to talk to each other and say oh. If he doesn't show US something more we're gonNA throw it in. There should have been plan. There should be some cohesion. And that's a glaring problem right there when you just do stuff without talking or without game planning. This isn't a good look at four that camp as a whole because it shows that you guys are missing fundamental steps in being successful as coaches in any sport on any level. You gotta all know what you're doing before decision that is made and it wasn't. That was my that was my thing I had no problem with. The Stop is because I felt like it could have happened at any moment in that round. You WanNa even punchers chance especially I mean no. No referee would have is in the back of the head for the fighting on the planet undercard about a week we could go with guy knocked him on the twelfth right after being completely dominated the entire fight. Sometimes you want to give a fighter chance but if you're mark reeling and your J. D.'s. And you see wilder getting beat up and listen The out there. I know it's out there While they didn't bust into your home he didn't break his draw he had cut in his ear. And that was it that there was no other Big injuries you know. People like he was eating been concussed but he'd have a bus of Joan. He had a cut in his ear But if you know what's going on you looking at you and he's like he doesn't look right you throw in the towel you save them for another day. My issue is if I'm say wilder and I'm confused about the stoppage and I go to J. D.'s. Who's my head trainer? Jay Why did you stop the fight? He's like I didn't do it Martin. Then it's like won't you the head trainer? You guys discussed this. Y'All making decisions about my career right or wrong and you're not on the same page and the J. D.'s. At the post fight press conference Kinda through mark under the bus. It was like I would have done it but mark did it. We're going to talk about that later. Really I mean I just don't know how you move forward as a team is a fighter and you can't trust your corner. That's what concerns me the most if I had to move into next plan. I don't know who the fuck someone throw in the towel. Who's in control here? I'm the fighter. I shouldn't have to worry about things like this if jay throws a towel. And he's Ted Train and I go J. through Intel. Save you cou. If the TOWEL COMES IN J. Whitestone tell he said I ain't do it. Mark did it. Why do I don't know I can't trust the corner? There may be changes to have to be made in a may not be Mark Bruin. There may be some I need to come in J. D.'s. Because I mean look man. I'm not saying it's bad trainer but I'm saying that. Jd doesn't bring anything special to the table. Fiancee wilder and there are going to be much. Change that can be made under the tutelage J. D.'s. That's going to take the onset to the next level in the something needs to change. I don't know if the tighter can change his stripes going to have to give it a shot a it's so hard. Deontay is predicated on a lot of loyalty. So what he even move if it's the best move for him. He's not a gypsy right. He's not he's not bouncing around. We heard that all fight Wiki prize himself and no. This is my people. We're going to get ready is what's going to happen. So it's it'll be interesting dynamics. Watch as will does he. And his team decided to take the rematch immediately. The from what I've heard this rematch clauses immediate rematch to summer or you can forego that immediate rematch with the caveat in place already in the terminology that says I will get my rematch in twenty twenty one so I will waive my immediate rematch by in twenty twenty one at some point. We are going to get. I like that second option. A lot better and I said on last week's show Tyson fury of tic- for everyone I said and I maintain this. He Won Gopher Anthony. Joshua 'cause I don't think Anthony Joshua was ever going to fight Dante wilder but I think they're more than willing to fight. Tyson fury yeah. So there's two this one side of your words Nancy Wildest Prize and say I want the rematch. Because he's thirty four years old doesn't all he says he's GonNa fight for five and a half more years. That's what he told me early in the week after this. You probably cut it down to four team. You made your ego may say I want this immediate rematch because yes exercise within thirty days but I think the Eagle has to heal before you make a decision like this and it's a big fight. Obviously any run the risk of losing if you go find someone else but if you're a DNC wider. I think you need time to heal and I think summer's too soon. It's October Aaron October's the other day that they were looking at to do the rematch. It might be too soon. It's only February but may you get beaten like that and it's a lot. I lost you career to immediately jump back in might be kind of hard so I agree with you. I agree with you and I think for me. The best scenario is for the remastered happen. Put all the fucking marbles on the table because of Tyson Fury Anthony Joshua and dude. That fight is huge and it's not like American huge. It's like globally huge because death. Josh was going to fight Cougar. Puma probably June and either Tottenham's Hammer. Wembley which houses like eight thousand people who live. He can literally fight me and FILL THAT BITCH UP IF TYSON. Fury has done what he's done in the states and they can do that at Liege. It is the new Raiders Stadium. Here in Vegas. They can take issue to Wembley they will clean house and then we will finally as long as there's not a draw we will finally have an undisputed champion which is one thing Deonte. Wada's asked for one name when champion? You'll have one so. Then you have the rematches for all the marbles and I think even bigger because if Tyson fury word to be Joshua which is not a foregone conclusion. I don't care what anybody says anything happened. What did he were to beat them? And if you fight for all the marbles in this remax yacht six maybe one tuna fight and beat dealing white or some shit like that and you have this fight wherever say it is arguing. The big is probably one of the. It's going to break a ton of records. Oh shitter record so off the idea as long as I'll see her in this week and I know we're not going to really get a chance to talk about Mikey. Garcia Jesse Vargas Vargas. That's Mike he has no business at one forty seven but he's GonNa win this fight. Whatever almost any this week and I'm going to get his take on. Because he said on social media he wants to fight to happen but I wanNA see seriously is because in order for it to happen. Joshua has to mandatory life and I think UC other mandatory. So you take care of those first and if the if so then you probably test for is probably going to Wi fi some bomb you see the t for me either. Joshua or wild. I think there's only two if otherwise. I don't think he's interested. Yeah I mean fury said he only has two more fights if you ask him so he doesn't have fights to waste no not at all he's been through a lot man trying to be your old time trying to get the shit out of here. I met him either. Yeah I'm not mad at all. And what's guaranteed now is that the money is going to be there. This is always these. Fights are huge. I know that I don't know what the numbers are. And we won't know maybe we'll know by actually but this fight will whatever it is. It's going to do extremely well. Everyone watches shit. Yes so and everyone's talking about it huge success. Now let's make a these across. The street. Fights happen a lot more often. Will they be this big? No but you know what they'll be bigger than just having them fight the same guys. You know promotion over and over and giving Danny Garcia five title shots for no reason when you can literally just have tears Crawford. Fight one of your champions. I'm just saying no. Let's let's meet these things happen so we'll see how that goes man. It's been a long show but had a lot to talk about. We want to thank you guys for listening. We gotTA shout out the sponsors again bet online. Make sure you guys check them out. 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Hour 2: Changing Trends

The Stephen A. Smith Show

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Hour 2: Changing Trends

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Max ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire. This is the max kellerman shots kellerman show on. Espn radio has the max element show on espn radio. Espn plus the espn app. Siriusxm channel eighty on your smart speaker. Eighty eight say. Espn eight seven to nine. three seven. Seven six the max. Kellerman show is presented by progressive insurance dame hits the game winner from half court team. Lebron's destroys team directly game winner. Twenty points brought. Why did you write game winner. Because they did it in a quarter as they did it in a different way. Yeah so it was. I have to be honest. Something else'll fourth quarter. Stop mine. i did couldn't keep my eyes open. I've been going my weekend. I had to get up at five in the morning. I don't even ask me. Why with all that intensity defense and competitiveness. You still fell asleep now. I know but i gotta tell you early on in that game when when team built that lead. You're like man they really don't care because lebron has a much better team but lebron's the thing that jumped out for me is how much fun lebron was having playing with steph like if someone said what was your takeaway. Lebron was the guy who was complaining before the no one wants to play in it. I don't wanna play. And i don't have enthusiasm. I dunno and then people kind of ran with that as a story leg. All the brandon looked at interested. He looked like he was having a really good time to me. At least through a two and a half quarters because already in the middle of the third. You know when you're watching and and and you're you don't realize your eyes closed for a minute. Wait a minute. I missed something that was happening for a little while. but it's not because it was boring. It was actually a fun game. Roj was a fun game. It's just all star games in order baseball the best all-star game because you can play like the less contact you have physical contact sport the less dangerous. It is for you to the game in terms of like your career. The better the all star game the more like the more the all star game can resemble an actual game so baseball has the best exhibition then basketball. And then the worst is is the pro bowl in football but they were. They were harlem. Globetrotter ended up. You know during the game they were trying to throw the freshest alley oops and by the way as a fan. I appreciate that of course. No one's playing defense and stuff. But i appreciate the offensive kind of showing off that both teams were doing. Willard finished with thirty. Two and steph dropped twenty eight neither one got. Mvp of jaanus led the team to victory. But the most impressive player in the game was steph. Steph was the guy and maybe it's partly because when you do everything on the same day you win the three point contest and everything for the game even starts. It's a continuation of that like for example. Imagine if anthony simmons was playing in the all star game and dunked a couple of times right but they were spectacular the way steph it some spectacular threes after winning the point contest. It just stands out more in your mind. And i gotta be honest the fact you you kind of spread it out normally because you get more programming from it is good and everything but i kind of like it better like this. The microwave society. I like it better. Like got everything in one neat package you half time. I'm watching the dunk contest. You got the three point contest. Game the dunk contest. The hoping you know. I like it but steph was the player of the night because of that because you saw him in the three point contest it was shot the lights out. And then you know was shooting from half court basically during the game. Lebron james tweeted by the way at dame littered nat steph curry. Thirty simply ain't fair. I literally kept telling them to backup further and further to shoot. And what did they do exactly see. Lebron was having fun different when you're when you're a kid you're in a bad mood you don't wanna play something. Someone talks you into playing. Maybe your mom your dad go out there and play right. Trump don't feel like playing. I don't know and then then you actually have a good time. You almost like grudgingly wind up having a good time. I feel like taking lebron saying. See lebron you like playing in the all star game after all he did especially because of steph and he's playing since he's watching them since davidson and knowing game recognize game. This is gonna be a baller in the nba. And the team's not really knowing how good steph was going to be lebron new and for the first time he gets to play with steph in an all star game. Share a court with steph on the same team steph. Who by the way. If it weren't for lebron's longevity would be the heir apparent is of the nba right. I thought it was going to happen. Two thousand sixteen. I felt okay. Lebron's kind of losing staff in the sense that he's not playing defense like he did miami all season. He's not the mvp regular season anymore. And here comes steph. Best adapted to this new nba. And you know what. He's the facing league in fact in two thousand sixteen on sports nation. I was arguing steph. Should have the lead in in like in the space jam. He should have lead in spain. Like he's the real new face of the nba. I just underestimated lebron's level because longevity in greatness lebron shut that down but that's how that's how it looked to me that steph is the heir-apparent and here it's just a question of when lebron's longevity is such he might out last steph right. He might add outlet steph. It's crazy but it's true. Real maybe steph never gets to inherit the nba from lebron because the pods always better than him until their old lebron james answering the question as to whether or not they'll be enough time to recover for the second half it was he after always complaining about playing in the all star game in the first place amount of hope so Is it enough time. I'll take any time dan. Obviously so i'll take full advantage of the time that we have. Is it enough time. No it's never enough time but we're not on the side of time out on the side of time but i'll take full advantage of what i have the okay with on the side of time. Lebrons getting really philosophical lakers draw forth on. Nba's on the nba Power rankings jazz. One nets to seventy sixers three. Can they turn it around without a one hundred percent. No they can't. They're not going to be not to the point where they're number one in the powering of course not a d. The lakers have concentrated almost all their resources on onto players. The a ad and there's no two players like that like even k. D. and harden is not lebron ad. Of course the nets have katie and harden and kyri and the lakers don't have a kyrie irving and so especially with the injury. I think it's gotten to the point. Now let's see how they come out for the second half. I think the nets are probably the favorites at this point. And the question is can the lakers get out of the west. Can they beat the jazz team. Who are much deeper with. Good players in the lakers lakers at the best. Two players in that series lakers jazz. That happens but like players. Three four five six and seven in the jess and then like maybe a laker and then maybe two or three more jazz players. That's where we are now folks. Let's be honest and the jazz shouldn't be above the nets. Either come on and guy look. I'm a lakers fan. Insofar as i have rooting interest in new york. Though i i would take the nets over the next but come on. Let's be honest about this. The nets have so much firepower and the defense has gotten better so quickly. The lakers are up against it. But you know what lebron has had his greatest moments when he shouldn't have won with the cavs they should not have beaten that seventy three win warriors team. They shouldn't have and by the way. The thunder couldn't k. d. westbrook baca. They were loaded. they could get as marcellus wiley. My radio partner in la used to say a maximum ourselves on espn radio. Judge the team getting off the bus. The thunder were so hot at that time everyone's like oh cavs warriors they'll showdown and all that but everyone was like. Oh the thunder might be a fly in the over here because boy. That team is good looking. I'm getting off the bus right. Actually they couldn't get by the warriors but lebron did at oracle game seven. Lebron had his greatest moment when he wasn't supposed to win. Are we in for another season like that. Lakers fans back to the wall nets by the time key is really healthy. And they're all with they're gonna look. Unbeatable can lebron dewitt again. Slay the monster. One thing about the greatest player of all time debate is michael jordan. Everley had to slay the monster. He was the monster but because lebron has been in a position where he wasn't the monster he's had a chance to slay the monster. In a way that jordan never did eight eight say espn or espn nfl. Insider annals joins me now on the goodyear hotline dan samak's with such a guy. And yet you are my antagonised. You are we are. We are natural enemies. For some reason. I do now. I don't know. I don't know just just natural enemies i love. I love you but for some reason we always yell and scream at each other. Look good for business dan. I gotta believe that deck and the cowboys strike a deal before the franchise deadline. And i'll tell you why and tell me you're thinking because the league is divided into two kinds of teams haves and have-nots quarterbacks either. You got a quarterback or you. Don't cowboys have a quarterback whatever the level you have a quarterback and even if they don't think that they wanna pay him as though he's mahomes or watson or wilson or something like that when they're up probably going to have to at this point and once jerry realizes that they'll strike a deal to that you say what i don't think the cowboy get a long term deal done. I'd just like why would dak prescott come all the way in his camp. Come all the way here to this point. And then take less money than you know they potentially could have or or what the franchise tag is. And why would they cowboys. Come all the way to this spot and then do exactly what they wanted to do for two or three years. Which is overpaid for the player. I just. I don't think that's going to happen. I think he's gonna get tagged. I think he's gonna play on the tag Unless he changes his mind. I think that this would be his last year in dallas. And then i think next offseason going to be paying monja because in free agency then the thing that will always happen in the. Nfl is you will overpay and someone will pay a ton of money for dak prescott. This is what i mean. If i say up down if i say left you say right. But i mean you see what i mean. I felt like my position was very reasonable. And you have the exact opposite impression. The great thing about sports is a lot of time not all a lot of time we actually get an answer like and then even after the franchise him of the chance after that for a while to get a deal done but before too long. We will have an answer to this question. I think let me tell you. I think jerry dewitt dan and then we'll move onto the bears. You can respond to point annoying. Let me say something. And then you know how this works. I say something you say something. I say you've been around the the the business for a while. Now you get interrupted. You know how it goes. Look jerry jones. Ego is huge but It's not like a dan snyder type. Who can't admit when he's wrong and so washington doesn't change their name until way after the expiration date right and then still can't just say jerry jones has said in the past every one of my best deals in my life over paid for quote unquote. So i think at a certain point when jerry knows he's beat he says okay. I've been beat. But once he signs the deal he wins right. Like all you have to do is get over that ego thing and then the moment the deal is done. Also go winner. He's he's jerry. Jones didn't make his fortune on the margins. Chin-sung here and there. He made his fortune with a big imagination. And i can't imagine a dak prescott walks out that door here. Here's my thing. 'cause i know we constantly just started to jerry jones and the cowboys but i do think that they've been way more tactical with some of the things that they've done and steven jones is taking a little bit. I'll end up with this. I think the cowboys have to ask themselves this question over the next twenty four hours and forty six minutes. Do they want to be the team next year. Who is one hundred percent salary cap hamstrung. And you can't put a roster together. 'cause you're overpaying for your quarterback or do they want to be a team looking for a quarterback those are likely one of their two options and i just think the cowboys are more comfortable being the ladder. That's really interesting. Dan orlovsky espn nfl. Insider analysts joins me on the goodyear hotline The bears should do anything. That's needed to land. Russell wilson true or false one hundred percent anything that is needed I'll i'll make this simple as well. it's one of two things for ryan pace and not nagy. What question do you want to answer. This is the game again. You wanna be looking for a job in two thousand twenty two trying to rebuild the roster with a couple without a couple of first round picks. That's the reality like it. They're going to be fired. They're gonna lose their jobs if they don't get russell wilson deshaun watson or somehow move up in the draft. They hit on a rookie quarterback. They're not going to keep their jobs with Alex smith they're not going to keep their jobs with marcus mariota. And so they have to do whatever's necessary to go get them and then figure it out after that and that's why they're so desperate and that's why team my seattle should be taking your call or team like houston should be taking your calls. 'cause we all make bad decisions when we're in moments of desperation and the bears are desperate. I think that there's one more layer to this dan. I was a kid. I said this on first. Take a bunch of times. But i was a kid watching. Snl saturday night live. I don't remember those teen fourteen years old fifteen years old. And they did that. Skit dub heirs right and it was always. The answer was debate. And at one point they had michael jordan on hosting snl. And the question to those guys was if you know if jordan and ditka had a fight who would want something like that and they're like minds were blown. They couldn't defeat the universe will be ripped apart because there was no answer to the question. I thought to myself wait a minute. Mike ditka was generally considered the most overrated head coach in the history of super bowl winners. His defensive coordinator buddy ryan was carried off on on the team as as was dick right but like they clearly. We're saying hey this guy's just as responsible the bears only one that one super bowl greatest team ever right but they won the super bowl and michael jordan was in the midst in his prime of an unprecedented one. In the history of american team sports towering above everyone who ever lived and crew including like babe ruth and johnny united than anyone you name and somehow ditka was the equivalent of jordan in other words. The town is football crazy. The bears are such an iconic brand in that town and dan in they haven't won a super bowl since eighty five and in my lifetime. They've never really had a quarterback worth a damn. We'll send might be available. The greatest quarterback in the history of your franchise by a factor of infinity might be available. You must go get him. You must have at least one. Great quarterback do you understand. There are generations of bears fans who have lived on this earth and died living and breathing in sweating blood sweat everything with the team and never one time. Seen a great bears quarterback ever regatta. Do this no. I think it's a great point. I think it's bigger than just wins and losses is your point. I think it's a great point. I also look at like the division. You know like minnesota and detroit and green bay. How many more years. We'll be there like if you go get russell's and you feel pretty darn good for the next ten years. You're going to have the best quarterback in that division and you haven't been able to say that for forever right in chicago. And so the third best quarterback there's quota of my lifetime jay cutler time yeah. I think it didn't no brainer for chicago. No brainer for okay. What about the silence from russell wilson. We've got about ninety seconds. Should then concerned seattle. Like the fact that yeah. Yeah yeah i said this. This morning on up. Max reminds me of carson wentz in philadelphia in that regard that after the head coach fired and they hired a new head coach and we live in an era where it's the easiest ever to make some of a statements. We haven't heard anything from russell. That refutes the i'm happy with the offensive line. And i'm happy with the head coach or i'm unhappy with the roster makeup or i want to go to these four teams. We've only had gas on the fire. And so his his his silence speaks volumes And and that's why. I said a couple of weeks ago i think mine is already made up I don't think one more year in seattle changes that for him. And that's why. I think seattle like needs to be very very Candidate about the situation. And just because you know what. If his mind's made up he's gone and his star isn't as ever been now. We need to try and get as much as we can for him now. Well as lil wayne said real. G's move in. Silence like lasagna. Dan i know one of your favorite lines. And the fact is. I'd be scared to death if i were seattle and russell. Wilson goes radio silence. Ooh that would scare me a chill out the great dan orlovsky ladies and gentlemen. You wanna see. Learn something about football. Watch him breakdown tape on. Espn the best to do it. Since jon gruden dan join me. On the good hotline. Thanks a million as always dan. Thanks bye s. were frenemies. Dan in frenemies. He's such a good decent guy. he's excellent job. It's impossible not to like him and yet for some reason he and i always anything if he says up i say down if i say left he says right helping you. Discover the road ahead. Goodyear more driven are the reviews on coming to america. Scaring me off. No doubt is next. It's time for some straight talk. 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Like i know people can shoot the three. It's not like the shot looks the same all the time. Do you make fine. Whatever dunks or like when you look like you're flying that's the whole key not how you can put it to your legs and the degree of devout fair. This tomahawk douglas shut up. It's how what makes you feel when you watch the oil. Okay fine you have actual specialist shooting the three in all stars and it's better when there's some names in the dunk contest but even without the names anfernee simon's gave you the lasting image of the dunk contest when he kissed at the rim. Let's be honest about this. What's next roger all right. Hey i'm brendan and i tried to warn you. Will we tried to warn you. But more reuse of coming to america to are scaring you all nas on. I had no idea. There were even bad reviews. That's how little i care about other people's opinions. I don't look feel if you're in a room with hundred other people and you have a strong opinion about something you have a thought about something and ninety nine hundred people are saying you're nuts. You should reconsider your thinking right. Because i'm the only one out of one hundred but if you've reconsidered and then said no i'm right about this. That who cares what those other hundred people say. I don't care. I will watch coming to america to at some point this week on movie night family movie night and i will tell you exactly whether you're allowed to like it or dislike it. I've not weighed in yet. There's no edict on this. There's no verdict yet. What's next not yet all right. Hey jimmy g. garoppolo he should return to the patriots. That's picking up steam doubt. This is what i don't say. Ow along because raj. I am be rest of imagination. I think camps should go to washington jimmy garoppolo. She go to the patriot. Having legislature does bring them back to their coach. I can't i. I'm incapable of any creative fought. Look garoppolo good quarterback but more than that. He's the kind of quarterback that belichick likes quick reads quick decisions good. Decisions gets rid of the ball quickly and at a lot of the time accurately. So i'd like to see it. And i think he's the kind of quarterback belgium could succeed with more than all that roger. That was choice. Bella wanted to make. He wanted garoppolo as his quarterback to take them into the future. No more cove. Excuse no more. No i want to see what belichick does with the guy he chose over. Tom brady brady went to a new team. Won a super bowl year. One ball's in your court belgium which you got our last on these speaking courts max. Watch oprah's interview with the royal nas on nas. Not even one moment until this morning on twitter. I saw oprah's reaction to hearing something about how there's a royal who's racist. An oprah cycle what she was shocked shocked to learn the brits the british crown practically invented racism. People are surprised like the scholarship has been done on like asking. The question even like can ken. Colonialism really explained racism in british. You're surprised that the british royals that someone one among them may harbor some racist feelings and people are transfixed by the royals so some phony baloney made up thing by the way they're not even heads of state anymore they're just purely symbolic and people are still riveted royals. They're born into this family. And therefore i need to care basketball. Basketball lost their minds. A how much time do i have. You got enough time to do that. Sponsor and then take a couple of call. No doubt is brought to you by my computer career training for a better life c. member all those from my computer career. You could have already been if you would've started doing that when i told you. Originally you'd be ready to have a whole new career. Remember i kept telling you the pandemic's gonna end. You should have a career. It's not quite over yet. You still have time. Go get yourself setup richard in manhattan. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio acts. Yes yes max yes. I'm going to answer this question. The way i think you would answer. And then you'll give me your hosting show now. Okay go ahead richard. i'm max from manhattan Love the show go ahead. Fifty years ago was ali frazier. Fight wanted greatest spectacles new york. Did you say six fifty. You added ten years fifty fifty. Okay all right mack. I'm asking the question. But i'm going to answer it and then you'll answer her. What would you rather have been. God sets you. Max you are gonna be in madison square garden for two hours. You can only take one of the other questions you could have been at the garden and that night. Eight nineteen seventy-one ten months. Pull you may eighth. Nineteen seventy seventy one came. I think you would ask you answered that you would rather have been at the garden. When willis came out of the tunnel. No no you're wrong. Answer four and then you'll tell me what because you would have more tension watching the knicks you. Your heart would have been more into knicks winning that game okay. Shutting the whole season meant nothing. No you're wrong about this. I would have more attention with ali frazier. But you're right. I would choose the next because they won an ally who i'd be rooting for at that time lost and so the pain of ali losing versus the thrill of the next winning. I'd rather be with an next. But ali frazier. One was a for going into it a far bigger event than any nba championship in the history of nba championships. If you added the biggest nba finals of all time to the biggest super bowl of all time. You still wouldn't get the global impact of ali frazier the earth. Scientists have studied this literally stopped spinning taxes. It stop spitting on its axis. They can't figure out this phenomenon and everyone froze when ali and frazier stepped into the ring to undisputed undefeated heavyweight champion. Somehow they were both undefeated in both undisputed. How is that possible to paradox. They were and they got in there. And by the way. Ali represented counter cultural revolution. And frazier represented throwback old school heavyweight knockout artists slugger. The styles were perfectly matched up. They were perfectly juxtaposed the personalities everything about that fight but the guy. I was rooting for or would have been rooting for. Had i been alive at the time. Lost so yeah the taken the next richard is. I gotta give. I gotta shout. Richard out on. I take one of these days. Told him i would. Because he said. I stole his idea and didn't credit him and i wanna credit him. But you know harold lederman harold letterman the unofficial judge on. Hbo past very sad heralded. Really really nice guy. I'm going to tell you my harold lederman story coming up. It has to do with the time i won. I won the boxing writers of america broadcaster of the year for years. I was snubbed. But then finally i won and harold is one of the people rooting for me. Then i got up to make an acceptance speech. I'll tell you the rest of coming up. And i'll give you my thoughts on. Ufc two fifty nine. Last coming up the max kellerman show on. Espn radio is presented by progressive insurance drivers who save with progressive. Save over seven hundred and fifty dollars on average call or click today and find out if they could save you hundreds on your car insurance last. Take next the max kellerman. Show the podcast max kellerman show on espn radio. Espn plus the espn app and sirius. Xm channel eighty and on your smart speaker see ufc two fifty nine eighty eight. Say espn eight. Eight eight seven nine. Three seven seven six. Did you miss any of the max kellerman show. Today today was a wild ride. Oh did we get into things. And the show took twists and turns that were unanticipated. And why i would say that this is probably going to be. Perhaps the greatest podcast. I don't want to overstate things. But ever and so i would suggest you listen to it. You can always find both hours of the show posted daily as a podcast available wherever you listen to podcasts. Which i am told our our new thing where they take the radio show and then you can stream or download it right. It's what a podcast means. Raj it'll be explained these. I think you nailed it. I think you know the man not only not only do i know what a podcast i. Listen to some podcast. How do you like that. Aren pausing for imaging now you heard i ache good to hear your voice by escrow and throwing out here matches last. Okay so i was talking about richard from manhattan last segment saying one of these days. I gotta give him pop on. I take be so thrilled. He watches me on. I take with stephen a smith every day with his ninety five year. Old mother who's in a nursing home and he goes to see her every day. And richard claims that i stole an idea of his and we. He claims with some merit because i. It's not that. I didn't want to refer to him but i'd forgotten. Who'd made the point and he listened to like and max didn't give me credit so i gotta shout out but this is what i fear so harold lederman the unofficial judge on hbo. People judge ringside. Everyone has an unofficial judge because of harold lederman. Hbo invented it gave him the job. And harold was such a sweetheart and and boxing writers of america didn't give me the broadcaster of the year award for like ever and finally. I think they ran out of people to give it to and gave it to me but a lot of the old guard in boxing. Twenty five when i was on. Espn so like the first of my generation doing they're like who's this young like the old generation never wants to new generation to displace them. And since i represented them in wasn't apologizing. A lot of people who used to be in the boxing writers association of america kind of were didn't like me and then as time went on more of my generation's in there so then it turns into the boxing writers association of the year. And i think jack hirsch was was the president at the time really lead. That was good to me. And everything but harold lederman champion. Didn't he any. Oh was he so supportive of move publicly and vocally and the whole thing and i get up to give the acceptance speech and i think every single person at. Hbo wanted to make sure not to miss. Every anyone except for harold lederman who was sitting in the audience. I don't know why he should have been the first guy i said. I don't know it was an oversight. And i apologize profusely afterwards. Like oh my god. Harold and harold pass tragically of cancer recently and missed the guy but didn't get thank them at the and he was pushing for it and i think the same thing's going to happen with richard. I don't know for sure but it just feels to me roj like even though it's on my mind i'm destined never to talk about richard on. I think so stay tuned. We'll see if i do. We'll his mother. And richard will have to watch each day radius. Wait watching waiting. And never. I never come. We'll see we'll have a lot of things on my mind. Right thoughts on usc fifty nine look israel out of sonya was poised for superstardom. But this happens sometimes. Bovici guy where you look at and you go. Oh my god. He's gonna set the world on fire but you know what he's a real. Light heavyweight and middleweight. He's he doesn't have as man- bones yet you know he's slim maybe in four or five years three or four years he can naturally grow into the division but he did a very good job early in the fight kind of controlling things in a tough fight and holding the larger man often my fear for him going into the fight and i even asked him on. I take is hey you pull. Sometimes street back from punches sometimes takes his head off line. He's good at that actually but sometimes just pull straight back as lanky toll. Middleweight can get away with it at light heavy. You're still in the line of the punt you can't pull strike is at this point. I've been thinking about that and all this. It didn't come down to that. It came down to the bigger stronger men just imposing his size eventually and winning a hard fought contest by wearing out the slimmer younger guy right. that doesn't mean not assign. You can't be a superstar. It means light heavy right now was a little too much a little too soon too bad because you know we're always hoping like what about a super fight a super fight opponent for john jones. Should he win the title and state heavyweight and all that stuff king in los angeles disagrees with me. Baseball has the best all star game. King mac. I actually want to challenge that theory. Okay 'cause i feel like the nba has the best all star game. And here's why because it accomplish the competition. You get to see those one on one matchups against prairie instead you know what. Let's just go one on one august. Jewish defense yes. Yes if if they were defending each other with pride but no one takes pride in their defense in the all star game. That's the issue because like who's going to lay on the line for an exhibition you know member criticism. Mlb took when they made the home field in the world series dependent on the all star game. It worked it worked. There were real stakes right franchise. 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Herring win over Frampton, Potential Crawford vs Pacquiao + Joe Smith Jr vs Vlasov

THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas

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Herring win over Frampton, Potential Crawford vs Pacquiao + Joe Smith Jr vs Vlasov

"Welcome to the fight with teddy atlas presented by dynamic striking. I'm ken reid. Joined as always by the legend. Teddy atlas teddy. I love the new shirt. Thank you would do an allied sparks while they they make good stuff. They've the makers of for athletic wear in london and moving to new york. That's the plan but they had reached out to me to do a line Teddy atlas line With box rewards going to be called to thirty six lionesses. I saw example of what looked like a least one. Two t shirts is going to be hoodies. Is going to be other stuff. Sweatpants shorts. it's it's it's a good line. They really make good stuff. And i'm very honored that they asked me to do a line with them. It'd be caught thirty six lives. Because that's what i often say or uses say on. Espn and and you hear me. Say it here a lot thirty six minutes to make life fair you know. Life's treated you unfairly thirty six minutes to championship distance. And it's in your control. Life can be the way you want it to be. We always have control over choices so anyway. This is that it's going to be other stuff you'll be wearing it soon. We're gonna get your size and mob size and maybe we even put someone those guys behind you i. It looks great. What's it say on the back. Thirty six here. alex great. I'm not lebron james. All i don't know what his number was he. He went twenty three. I take Twenty three because he. I think he was the same number as michael jordan. I believe Although michael jordan had two numbers right at twenty three but then when he went away for that period way played baseball and he came back. I think he had a different number. Yes i think you're right. I don't remember what the number was. But i know he watch it ever numbers well. I'm number thirty six anyway. You're going to be number thirty six two so excellent well. Speaking of making life fair one guy who took advantage of the opportunity to make life fair and kinda right. Some of the last of the controversies from his last fight was djamil herring inaction this weekend against call frampton big stoppage win four juvenile herring to get back on the winning track. I know you had a lot of thoughts about this. When i saw you on twitter. Talk to me about the fight. And what it means for herring and his legacy and his confidence going forward. You know you started a perfectly. It was more keeping his title a lot more a lot more than that. And before i go into it i just wanna make a mention little different than i normally would do here. You know we concentrate obviously on boxing but sometimes does parallels from other vocations other sports. You know other places where things that. I talk about quite often that a special that are consistent needs to be great in the sport. You know whether it was mma whether it's boxing That show themselves eventually for the great ones. Some of that was shown saturday. Night in the semi-final basketball game between ucla and gonzaga. I know lot allow people going to say. Wow we're talking about basketball. Listen it was a fight. It wasn't a basketball game. I wanna make that very clear. And it's consistent with my philosophy. What when. I first started this podcast with ken the first day i remember when ken said what do you hope to get out of it. I said i hope. I can connect the dots from life through boxing and that from the first day is really been my thought That because life's a fight. Life is a fight system out of what you fighting. For and saturday night you saw that it transcended physical things. It did it did. Real was no longer budgets. Who shot the ball better. Who dribbled the ball better. And who rebound yeah. All those physical things always there but it was about more became about more than that. It was about character was about will was neither team. Wanted to lose and it was about reminding us teaching us really what it takes to be. Great to be completely committed to something. I just technically and physically but mentally to be willing to go into the fire. Yeah willing to go into the fire. And that's what i saw it. I just had to. I just had to mention it. Always say you know like. I say the metaphor for life is boxing. This great example. Where gonzaga's undefeated the trying to be the only team to win the national title undefeated since one thousand nine hundred seventy six forty five years ago. I think that was bobby knight's team. Actually it was about seeking greatness because to do that. You have to be great. I mean that's a great accomplishment and they will go into some somewhere along the line just like we are in life and fighters are before you got to that place to be able to say. Yeah you're the greatest team may be of all time. You've you're the undefeated before your world champion. You're going to be tested. You going to be tested. It's gonna come and it came. It came the characters soul of these teams would need to withstand the fire that i touched on earlier at a did. I mean they're gonna wind up playing tonight for the title versus bella tremendous team too but saturday night they had to win and get there and they had to show what greatness looks like they wanna fight and one would talent grit hot resiliency and character. Both teams were great. I want to salute them. Thank shown us what greatness looks like it. Was ali frazier three. It was the driller manila. I mean that's i know without the physical punching and all that but you don't have to physically hit somebody to test somebody to to take them to a deep place to take them to a dangerous place a place where they're threatened with the threat not just physically but emotionally that everything that matters to them is is on the line it transcends the transcends physical talent it went to those high altitudes where i often talk about. It can where the everson exist there. You need to expand the capacity of your lungs to take in oxygen. You need to tap into that. Extra tank called just will will and character fortitude. And while you're doing it you need to believe to know. The cannon will not only breathed but use it to win it We seed in fighters whether the boxing mma and at times we see it with different kind of fight takes place but each time you see it you recognized for what it is. It's greatness translates across all spectrums of competition where you pushed to the brink where you're challenged. Actually we threatened actually threatened with defeat it goes back to a very primal beginnings. I believe where where man's called arms was brutal yet. Simple basic survival is your kaka all your concord that that's these guys didn't wanna lose. They didn't want to be concrete. I mean i know it ended with that half court shot almost half court shot but the place before that it's like each team each player. Each coach was playing not to die. I know that's that's tough to hear. But it was like they were playing not to die that that part of the competitive part that part of that that just had to conquer that they bought into that they gave to so freely that they committed to not die not to die. I mean the one moment. It looks like it's going to win the game and they're coming down to go up. I believe by four and come down to dunk the ball over some guy comes out of nowhere at any blocks to dunk and then they shoot it right down. They tied the game up out to the other end and then one of their best players gonzaga remember his name but he's got four fouls on him and again. It looks like you. Ceo's go ahead now and secure the game and he takes a chance. He steps into late takes. Charge was real close but it was a charge. He gets dropped to the floor and they get the ball back. They come back they score and then. Ucla comes right back. Just like ali frazier back and forth unbelievable like a fight. I mean we're sudden. Ucla with three point three seconds goes ahead and no timeouts left. They take the ball out. 'cause aga goes down and they take that shot and they make i wow eggs everything we talk about. It's connecting the dots to whatever you fight for. So i had start with that and thankful. Allow me to bear with me to do that. And then as far as herring and frampton as i said do you set it up. Perfect it was about the last fight. It wasn't about this. Fight was about redeeming himself. Redemption redemption as powerful is very powerful. It means more than title has title means a lot harry. Men's of ex-marine olympian. He's a good human being but the fight before this fight. Can he got caught up in one of those situations where you get tested that we'll talk about right and add more than you've ability gets that you're gonna call gets tested. And he got tested and he got headbutted He was bleeding on it was toughie was against. I believe a bill right. Jonathan again yup and it was a tough fight. It was a tough and it was going down the stretch to the championship stretch to championship rounds right whereas all about and suddenly. He said he couldn't go on. And the referee stopped that they needed to dig q. There's a lot of controversy because you know if it was a head but after four rounds they should've went to the scorecards. If you couldn't go on and it becomes a technical decision whoever's headwinds but you know how boxing who knows who knows but they over suddenly they says it can't go on and tells. The referee can't go on because of the head because the blood whatever and now instead of stopping it way back when it's happened now they're going to stop with kendall comment on with being a tough fight and a lot of people and they stopped and a lot and frampton. I mean Having won by deco he keeps his title. Lot of people knocked them. Can we talked about ara but a lot of people went after him and said you know you didn't behave like a fighting you to be able to like a champion is shouldn't want it that way you know so does fight. He felt all that he understood all that he understood what was in the balance he understood what was on the line here. This is a marine is there. There's a man amana character. And he understood. This was about redemption. This was about getting rid of that. What happened in that allows fight and making it right. This is about him. This was about pride this was about living the way he wants to live and feel the way a man like that wants to feel while living that just saying he has a title but knowing he asked the title the title the title of behaving like a champion when the moment comes to behave like a champion and wouldn't you know what fate as it is. The the fickle finger of fate. Would you know it that it sets up perfectly. He gets headbutted again. He's bleeding again. Unbelievable you can throw this stuff up. I mean i was. Hollywood was as good at setting up these scripts. they're not but it was unbelievable they. He's caught he's bleeding. Same and what does he do. He knows what to do. Fight fight fight a be a champion and he was. He talked about geography he. He controlled geography to geography for the fight to break. It down was for him to control the outside. he's taller. he's long control. Troll the one thing i gotta say got to save. We always say full disclosure. We'll we're wrong always. I always thought to four. I was wrong about that. Get got lucky again. But we touched on a fight and allies podcast after the gone new and gone new fences and gone. You went over me. All check We we talked about it only about two minutes. Can you had brought it up. We did we concentrated on a ufc. Obviously we concentrated on the perfect white fight but just for like two minutes. We said frampton coming up with you. Know with the fight against against hiring on the weekend. Teddy i just gave a real quick overview of and i remember saying yeah you got the more physical guy in fanton and if we have to. We could go to the videotape away. Water wolf used to say go to the videotape. But it's there. I say a fabulous gonna fight. The more physical fights going to try to get in Having is gonna fight on the outside the geography of outside and factor. Better look out for the uppercut of of harry because he's got a damn good uppercut. You don't even see beautiful smooth delivery ban. We got one right because he's stopped him with the uppercut but getting back to breaking the fight down. He controlled geography beautifully He he understood how to use his height and reach advantage. He knew how to fight tall. As i used to. Always say on. Espn corner fight. Some people told. But they don't add if i told you knew how to fight tall and i got to give credit to his new team trainer smack back italian those guys that were crawford a brilliant shop. You know train is make a different. Can there proof of a good trade is good trainers good trainers. Make a difference. He's improved. He has gotten better Harry and he's showed. I even see a little bit. I don't want to go crazy. People go say. What are you drinking some. But i see but crawford rub off on him being in camp with them and with his guys. I see some of the tendencies of coughing. A starting to show a little bit He looked having was was great. He redeemed himself. He was fighting to fights. He was fighting the fight against frampton to fight against hiring from the from the last fight. The the leftover the remnants the ghost to get chest chase those goals exercise. Those goes from his belfry. He was fighting that fight too. And i love the way that he uses jab the way that he would what it was time to take a step back took a step back created holes created traps. You know he had a better game plan. Much better game plan. Frampton didn't didn't look like he had a fight plan to me. Ken frampton looked like he. He just showed up to fight. He knew he wanted to get close. He knew sometimes you got to troll right hands because against the south pole. Which having south southpaw you. You look for right hands. He knew he wanted to try to get to the body but was just attacking and spots. He didn't look like he had a real thought out. Five plan it looked like having having right from the beginning and first thing. I said you know if i was calling to fight. I think i would've jumped on. Was he knows how frampton is not fighting. A south poor the right way with the south pole. You're talk fighter. You supposed to put your left foot outside his front lead right foot and move to your life so you get a better angle for the jets and you stay away from. His power has backhand his left. Hand you move to your left away from that power. He didn't do that. He moved the opposite way. He moved to his right into the power he paid for it. He paid for it all night and it will left. His buffet got trapped in a with the left hand and and he got finished with the uppercut as i said six so he was moving the wrong way all night and so does. The fight started phil. Who's in charge. Sometimes and right away. I i said i made a note to myself having charge you know. Why can't one reason one thing. He was snapping to jab while frampton was pushing it. I said he's in charge right there. Just that just that join need to join me to know. I'm not a forensic expert. I don't do seats. I was i would over there. That shows. who's here. But that's all i needed to see to breakdown. Forensics of the fight. You know x ray. The fight i saw. I saw frampton doing this. Poor like he's not sure himself. And i see the other guy. Go bang bang. Sarah is in charge and the reason why was in charge. Was he was moving as southport. Who is right out way he could get good position for the jeb and phantom as i said was moving the wrong way. He wasn't step into his left outside the lead foot of the south pole so he didn't feel comfortable champion. You're not gonna feel comfortable of your move that way. He felt awkward felt on short himself. He felt unsafe and so he was fighting unsafe. He was fighting on short himself and it starts right there right with the champ starts right there you know. Sometimes it comes in the house. You know what he do. He looks thompson he looked i. You go and he looks right away. He knows everything he knows where it started where the cold where the virus. Well the same thing with a fighter. Right away i see where the virus started. I see a push It he he's got a virus. he's got a cold. He's unsure himself. He he doesn't have as he doesn't have set fight plant he. He's not solid and and it. It showed throughout the fight. And i listen. Frampton left his promoters lepers people over there in europe Across the pond and he went with top rank he he never looked good when he got with top ranked. I'm not saying it. Stop brings course but he never looked like the same fighter divided. That beat santa cruz. He he was never the same fighter you lost a rematch to santa cruz. But he seemed to decline. He seemed to dissipate downhill. Ever since that great windfarm and and more so more and more more more seemed to speed itself up a little bit and when he by tommy moved over to to top rank. I remember there was. He had his debut fight on. Espn and i. I watched it. And i said he don't look good. He don't look good. He didn't have to toughest opponent they gave him the right guy too because they want to get started. They wanted to get up to get him to the finish line. They want to get to the title so they gave the the right guy but even with the right guy. He didn't look good. He looked all over the place on showroom self like he like he didn't know what his identity was anymore and it followed through now taking away from crawford as people nonprofit herring in people were people helping them Great job great job. Take nothing away but he. I don't know if we look like a shot fighter. Whatever but he didn't look like to save fight but having looked like a better fighter. Maybe that's a big part of it. It's interesting that you said all that. Because one of the things. I was gonna ask you after you gave a quick breakdown was to you. Think they'd herring. Looked really good or their frampton. Look really bad because my again. I love jamil herring. I don't want to take anything away from. But i thought the same thing that you're describing when i saw the mike mcmahon frampton looks terrible. He doesn't look the same like he was a world beater for a while. He looked unstoppable. And to your point. He seems to slowly decline but he didn't. He really didn't look good at all in the ring. And i was curious to hear your thoughts but i can't there. It is combination of herring in looking good and and and frampton in decline. Yeah i retired after the. That's a good observation question. Your but i think that's what it is and why it up that way and you know again Great job by having his people he controlled geography. You know when. I talk about control geography and how important it is. You know. it's it's tantamount and other places and other sports where you could say a basketball that maybe say this team needs to control the pay you know onto the basketball and football. Who controls the line of scrimmage is going to you know he's gonna control the geography of the game or golf who who puts the best. You know controls the green. I mean there was a parallel with with that in from box the places tell the vocations to although in this case town other athletic ventures to other sports and again the taller bogo herring. He just he did everything he he every once in a while he would take a little step back till the counter right hook make the guy pay a price for trying to get in He he was really He was very impressive to me. And i think he's impressive as a human being and i said to as you touched on i said a tweet out. You know congratulate them at saying that he did more than defend his title tonight and he knew what i meant he said something back saying thank you but was i appreciate but he as. I said he defended himself. He defended himself And he did a tremendous job of I really i really. I really enjoyed it far. As phantom is his last fight. I guess he announced his retirement So unless he changes my dad that was his last fight. And you know. I'll finish with him by saying what he left. Mcguigan 's you know the mcgregor to a two big job over there and in europe and islands across the pond and when he left them he went to court and he. He accused of stealing money from them and all kinds of it got ugly. It got ugly Over there and i came over here. He wound up signing top ring. And you know they went their separate ways and like i said the mcguigan have been very big over there. They don't really good job with their fighters promote nemann trading them Mcgregor's son has become their train You know you wonder you wonder how much of its physical and how much of it's psychological because forever looked like a guy who didn't enjoy fighting anymore. You know you gotta. I know it's tough to draw somewhere. You get hit but you still. You gotta have that passion you gotta have that passion to be a dead level and maybe it was just physical. But i always believed that a mental part of it is always part of it because mentally seventy five percents is game is mental so you wonder that after he went through that experience with mcguigan over there. If he just didn't want to do it anymore you know you wonder if he was so hurt or salt discuss it or frustrated or or just angry. Aw finished finished with it. You know that that he just didn't wanna do it anymore and Though the reason. I bring that up as partly because the way looked at me he had been looking and also because obviously retired right. Afterwards you know which is the right thing to do if you if you don't feel you performance whatever the reason if you don't believe you could perform at the top level anymore. It's the right thing to do. Obviously but it was interesting. I just wonder if part of it was that his experiences the effect of that experience of just being finished at disgusted with the sport and like it. He don't want to be part of it. It doesn't matter the way it used to madda. But at the end of the day pravo to harrigan his people You know that he's got himself hooked up with coffee people. It's been really good form Terrific job and leave it to you. He was a really really. I really was impressed with With herring at he's gonna he's gonna have to be that good. It's good that he's gotten better because he's going to have to be that good if he's going to go down that road that it looks like. He's head for the next challenges. Hey guys wanna take a quick pause to give a thank you to today's sponsor athletic. Greens the daily drink support better health and peak performance as i've said many times before i love this stuff. I've been ramping up my own training now to like eighty five ninety miles of running per week getting ready for some marathons in in may and then the world championships in london in october and honestly i would never skip a day of athletic greens. 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Greens dot com slash outlets to claim the special offer of ten free travel packs with your first purchase again athletic greens dot com slash atlas wall. Speaking of bud crawford. He was in the news in the past week. Potential fight with manny pacquiao on june fifth. Sounds like there may maybe in the middle east but that could be an interesting match up. I was surprised at one thing. Can i wanna add. I asked my man rob to put something up with its. How can i leave it out. After i asked my man mob to put something up. I don't want to have him do work for nothing. So the last thing. I want to attached to the to the having fight with frampton when i talked about what does fight meant beyond just a title which is a lot what it meant to hearing about. You know making things right reminded me. It reminded me a different circumstances. But the same neighborhood As far as searching and fighting for who you are as having. Did you know saturday night. It reminded me of the older klitschko fatality klitschko. A lot of people are gonna forget this but this is going to remind him. It made me go back. Made my mind go back to that. Where he wound up being a dominant heavyweight like his younger brother. Wladimir the two dominant. For what i don't know a decade you know. They had their offices it down but then they were dominant and it reminded me of tally fatality. When he he had fought for the title he was fighting. Chris byrd now. Chris byrd was a small. He was a middleweight no averages and he moved to heavyweights small heavyweight not a puncher but he was a magnificent defensive fight chris byrd and he was together mentally pretty damn good his his parents trade them. They did a good job and a good person and but he was really really frustrating to fight. I mean he was a tremendous defensive. Whiz really i mean he was. He was to the point where those old timers would say to me. Tell you can't hit this guy in the backside with a handful of buckshot. Every stood right in funny i mean he was as slick and but klitschko was fighting and could school was towering over much much bigger than fidelity clinical clinical quit. He quit. I think between the ninth ten frown. But he he gave up. I mean he's submitted. he's his almost hurt. Whatever it was is what we're talking about where people don't wanna to see that in champion. They don't wanna see that in the ring. You're you're in the ring special. You have special code in a special you know things have to answer to and that you have to abide by. They will dated. Want to see that and put it did and what it was over with. His arm got better. Whatever went onto fight klitschko had to live with that and it was obvious he had to live with that he could win and he could never win another title. Another fight didn't mean anything until we wanted to fight over himself. He had to win that fight. I had to redeem himself. He had to fez life and he went up fighting the best heavyweight biggest heavyweight the hottest pungent heavyweight in the world at that time for one punches lease lennox lewis. He wound up. I forget how long after it was but he went he winds up being in a situation with a much more dangerous guy than chris. You know although crisper could be dangerous away he could frustrate. You could break you down if you let yourself get broke down mentally by making you miss but not hurting you with a punch while lennox lewis could hurt you in the punch and so now. He's in the ring. Now with lennox lewis rights have to that and fighting for the heavyweight title and he gets hit with right hand he he gets. He takes everything whatever he got hit. He and he acted like a champion. He act like a fighter and he fought with everything. You wanna fight it to fight with ken. Everything and then. He got a horrendous cut. And i mean horrendous like you could see right through to his to his bone i mean both the i it was bad. It was really bad and he wanted to keep fighting. The doctor stopped the fight. Rightfully solve with with klitschko. I mean it was really either way there was. There was three years in six fights in between that fight. Lennox lewis fight so he never could calm self could sit himself a champion. He had to wait three years. I'm so glad you'll take you for looking at up. He he was. He could not be what he needed to be until he exercise that ghost. If you will. I mean much like in some ways. Joe lois when he got knocked out. When it was undefeated he got knocked out. On the way up he gets knocked out by schmeling and then he wins the world title against braddock. And he's you know he's got the world title says your world champ because no not what do you mean you. Now will your world champion. Joe joe louis my favorite heavyweight of all time right behind them but he says you your world champ joe no. I'm not not until i beach smelly not into a beach melon. And that's how he felt in his heart. And that's what accounts how you feel in your heart and your soul and klitschko is the same thing. And he had to redeem himself he had to redeem. He had to win that fight and when he got in there with lewis for the heavyweight title at loses again. He's the best heavyweight at that time in the world and and a dangerous right and puncher. He redeemed himself. He fought hard he. He took the punches at he got caught. He still wanted to fight anymore. He insisted on going up at the referee stopped. It didn't matter that got stopped on cuts. He won that night he won. He his sole back he wanted it back. And i just needed to say that. Because that's what i'm talking about. What i talk about what herring needed to do and what he was fighting for. The same thing that led or i should save fatale. Klitschko was fighting for what he fought. Lennox lewis so go. thank you for. Let me put that in. Of course paquito crawford june fifth potential fight. What do you think. I think might be the last fifa pack ya. I tickets a bad fight for paiko. And i hate to see them. Go out way. Love bulk guys. I did qualified as powerful pound right down the best fighter in the world. I know cannella was up. There i know is up there for me. I have crawford. I mean we can only go by where we feel what taste is for me. It's coffee confided site outside. He carried his powers. Who went up all these way classes three weight classes. I believe he carried his power. He's he's got great training. He's he's as. I said he knows how to control his. He knows how to short up his game and go in there full short punches on the inside and older trenches if he has to You know he he. He always behaves like a fighter. Reminds me in some ways of sugar. Ray leonard in a way that sugar ray lead with a nice smile nice guy but he was a pit bull dog He was a nasty guy. He was a main guy when it came down to the fight the way when it came to the fight and coffee. Got that streak in him you know. He's pit bull dog. he's that mean guy when it comes down to really get into the fight to the moment when you get to that place You know he. He's not giving anything up You know he's got that mentality and i just. I think that at this point backyards career at forty two years of age believe. He's forty two listen. He's done spectacular things career. He's done. he's done legend. Everything's but he's been. He's done extraordinary. Things lateness career beating beating the guys that he's winning the fight still at at this stage of his life you know To beat thurman with the title again. He's extraordinary at ease. An extraordinary person what he does for the people of the philippines everything else and how he balances being a politician over the still being a fighter. It's amazing but i think it's all fight fan. I know the money's got to be right. If the money's. I know it's going to be going to be in the middle east. Probably they're looking for a place to put it a short follow. We're going to have to be an abbot. Something like dad because the money be there soviet gets the money. i guess. That's a part of it. It eliza pack cow. He's so special. It's not just the money he's going to believe he's gonna win the fight because he special he's going to believe. I just think that coffers. I just think crawford still style the wrong talent. At this point in his life four-pack yao could take advantage of timing out. Kale was so. I still fast. But he was so quick not only was hands but was feet to close a gap where he could do things wrong and make it right. He could. He could break rules. He could run red lights and get away with it. You know before. The call came in crashed until i don't know if he could do that anymore but he wants those red lights when he looks to get in at he starts from too far away. Cough of my time on the way in the there might be a call crash he might pay for running that light where in the past he did pay for it. He paid for gas marquez. So once and he got knocked out but he came back magnificently again and had another part of his career after that. So look he's a special guy. He's got a special fan base behind them. They're probably going to be mad. That we've important is out but pointed out. Because that's what i do. That's what i'm here to I love patio. I guys are great. i just i just think that this could be the one For him. i'd rather see crawford spence. I've as a young guy with a young guy. I'd rather see a. I don't wanna hear anymore. We've heard too many times right. Can jump where you get the big fights. You say five years too late to too many times too many times okay. Five years too late okay. Seven years too late. I don't wanna hear that. And i think that's what you probably going to hear if despite takes place but i guess Being that it's paquito and people want crawford you know to fight a name. I guess people will watch it. Obviously but at and listening it's it it gets the job done for top rank having trouble crawford. He was looking to leave them but he signed to a contract. It's not happy he's made it pretty public In the past that he wasn't happy with them but you know he signed the contract he got paid at a certain point to to sign of renewal of you know the extension of contract he did. He still there This way of a viral. You know having his cake and eat it to. He keeps them. They are a little longer. You know he keeps them big. He satisfies them would give them a big name. Fight a fight that very winnable but it is a big name. And if i were going to get paid a lot of money and and you know so you know it takes care of things for iram You know doing that you know and again it's as just i just hate to see a special guy but it happens to too many of them. I hated to see Mohammed ali go out again homes and i love homes but i hate it to see that too. We shouldn't have to see that but we saw it. We saw it. And i hated to see joe louis go out against rocky marciano. And i love both fighters. They're both special fighters but that wasn't joe louis anymore. But he for i. That was close to muhammad ali. Woody for larry holmes and i don't know maybe pack hills different. Maybe but. I don't know that it's going to be pack yell anymore. What he fights crawfish. So that's that's my that's my sense of it can. That's my take He certainly he certainly looks good against thurman but again that was two years ago and like you said he's now forty two years old fict- point that's two years ago. I mean that was extraordinary. That was extraordinary extraordinary. But that was two years and it's a different guy. Dermot terrific fighter terrific athlete. He is but terminal was coming off a couple of years of being out with his injuries. The surgery he had one fight before that and he didn't look good He he didn't he didn't look good. He fought tough son of a gun. I know it a game guy. But he got hit with punches. He got hurt. He didn't really look good thermal. He looked like he needed. Maybe two bullfights before fort atop fight again and instead he fights paki our pack l. Pizza get taken away from pacho but it was different was different dead cough. It's going to be Yeah he was coming off that win over hoses lopez win lopez had him hurt very balancing. He could have easily lost. That fight easily could have got stopped. Teetered on the brink of you know lopez was a guide moved up in weight. Tough-guy game guy but not a natural welterweight therapists. A big wealth ways aid more of a natural junior welterweight so he didn't have that kind of real power to really finish the job but but boy caught quarter with some big shots and had them her. Yeah keith. Had a razor thin decision. Over danny garcia then had two years off with injuries then getting what lopez almost got stopped and jumped right back in with packy our lost so and we haven't seen in two years either so curious to see what happens with him as well again. I think this fight might be look good for qualified. I think it's good. For as i said for the promote arab he could you know he could make executive said. Espn say wow. You put a big name. Oh you know so. Make everyone happy. It'll be good for him for the moment all that but at the end of the day the iconic fighter right now the legend patio i get. Is he going to go down that road. That's what this is about for me. Go down that road. Unfortunately that too many of all legends called down. You know i remember my my one of my heroes. What am i. i didn't really have when i was young. It was my father. But what are the guys. I really looked up to was willie base and i was young young kid but i love willie mays at i love mickey mantle and when willie mays got got traded to the bats as much as people in new york. Were happy It was terrible because he wasn't willie mays anymore. He wasn't willie mays anymore when he was out there. Making those basket catches can He was special. You make those. He could make a basket catch anymore and it was very sad. It looked at differences. Nobody was punching him in the face. Thank god hey. I get it but i don't wanna see that in any of the any of our legends. Any of us special people athletes. You know that that all heroes to a lot of people. I i don't want to see it and i definitely don't want to see it in a fighter agai- again and maybe we will but i think there's the risk that we will. That's all well coming up this weekend. Your feet one of your favorite fighters action. Joe smith junior taken on a seasoned veteran maxine vela saw villanova's forty five and three all three losses coming by decision. Be good to see. Joe smith in action again. Not sure how competitive the fight will be. But i love watching joe smith. You know why you love them because you love that you know you can trust that. Every time he gets in a ring. You know what you're going to see everything that he hundred hundred percents. That's why you love him. That's why you love him and he doesn't have one talent where you know he stands out. He's got that neon away was gifted by genetics. Or there's so that where you say. Oh my god. He's so fast. Oh my god. He's so there's all vega he's so slick he's He doesn't have any of those but he's got the one that's most important. His his determination and his grit and his character that he's gonna get a ring bring everything he can and everything he has and that's enough. That's enough he. He's he's a blue collar guy that brings his lunch pail. You know literally labor union vellies. You're right that's perfect. I didn't even realize that. As i was making that analogy. But i'm glad you help me with that and you put that perfect. I mean that's what he is. He's bringing his union card you know. And and he he's staying overtime baby he. He's got he's making over time and not just not just. Union laborers was union labor's union and that's how he does it he does it with physicality with determination you know belief with hot would soul You know he he beats guys that are slick of that him. You know that Of to fight that that he won of ola elian gonzalez was the guy that had knocked out kovolev. He beat him alvarez alvarez alito alvarez. I believe they're out elder alvarez now alvarez was -lica- who was more polished all those things but he wasn't wanting more more determined he didn't have a big heart you know he wasn't more possessed to win and and even you know ended. Then that's a guy who could not only box for kabbage knocked out kovalyov and what it's meant to just blow calmed down. He just broke them down the late. In the late rounds. And that's what he does. You know he looks so break. You down You know again. He's you know he's a blue collar guy that you know that brings us lunch pail and brings his union card. Andy he to work every time. He's a hard guy not to like. he's a hard guy now to light. Yeah i'd be hard pressed to find someone that doesn't like joe smith. If you're a fan of boxing. I can't think of any reason why someone wouldn't like him. But anyway we'll have to look forward to a ufc event this weekend as well and yeah. Thanks for doing this today. Teddy great talking to you as always once again. The new box raw collection coming soon. The teddy atlas thirty six collection. Check it out online box. Raw dot com. And yeah. we'll be back with you guys next week. Thanks for being here and appreciate the support as always scattered and i know. You've you look at those looking to get a couple of these cattle. All right guys thanks.

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Ep77: Are Giants right in releasing the trio?

Makem Takem

49:18 min | 11 months ago

Ep77: Are Giants right in releasing the trio?

"Welcome to make him take him back off a bit of bright reason. We've had a bright is the really hasn't been anything toefl. Good luck to the costs out there trying to create as much as I can the amendment we all. Just nothing really the interest of this to get into. However, the BB L. Machine seems to be firing up again, so we built something to get into. Thankfully I'm joined by Chris Again Chris. How're you doing? You're right. On. Fine thanks! Nice to see. Things are starting to get back. To what was it was before? Yeah. Fingers crossed will stop moving forward from now she's. Be Good. It'd be good I. Think we will pray for some some British BOSC. Stop Soon and we've got three questions to go through today. just off the back of probably the biggest news that we've had from the BB L. kind of. Weld in las few weeks and we'll jump straight into the first question. Overly the most shocking of the law. So the question I've got for you. Is all the matches giants right in letting English Bank of H Jones Brothers got. Nearly Spat Matteo. When read this one because I couldn't believe I understand the clubs gone through annoy new identity and stuff like that, but what that? Niece Winnow, sign that callum. James and Bank of it. You're gonNA play major minutes. Obviously, you can't have them. Guys starts with the club which kind of leads to the fact that? Makes you think in your head, a clubs trying to save money at this time, but how they cannot be an integral part of rebuilding the process and the different culture in the club. I, it baffles me. You lose in place especially where caliban comes out right now and he says he wants to continue to play O. Boss for next couple of seasons really gives me and begs the question to sink. What is that she the direction of Manchester next season yet, and that's I. Think the biggest thing for me like you said as much as it was shocking for these pleasant individuals Chicago. Demand just one. What do they think they all? Go a plan that we don't know about. They go a ton of cash. They WANNA drop that we don't know about. What's the situation Kalomo? He said he's come out. You know hat tip to that open letter that he's put out is wonderfully written and just really honest. May really open and honest, which is great to say? He says he wants to play at least two more years in the BB l.. He's not even offer basically a salary. He was winning to play for free, and they still don't want him. Seems really strange. Place to be when you look at the situation while. Their leading score last year, Sixteen Nine sixteen point nine points, two point three rebounds two point six assists. Callum can I. Mean we just diaper eleven points nearly four balls before assists James came in over eight points, four rebounds six assists. These three players were probably the only ones that could just about hold the heads up high on a zero and thirteen season. They were kind of the only slight glimmer of a light from that. Just wanted to look at bank. Of which do you think this is a victim? Probably the first victim we've seen the new impulse role that he's now no longer going to be kind of one of those extra two. European pleasant you get. That's conduct being reduced down to one really now that we're four remotes. Do you think that spoke a victim of that? Could be in such a victim of that because of his age. I think that could be a override. You know factor with that he's. It depends as well the amount of money that Manchester of course, the spent but Y-. Even, if it is going that, you still got a chance of you, still even if he was the only European guy that you still got Johnson, four Americans of very good import price coming in as well. So really in that sick man position, which he probably would have played a very good position this year. This somebody that most knows the deal or whatever so i. just think that's I. Don't think that's going to harm him. I. Don't think he's a victim of. I just think he's at she a victim of whether these levels the gods. Yeah just really really strange like say this news coming out the the the three key players and kind of like Conic Manchester Plaza as well, and that's what you've seen in the social media from the boss replies the what is Manchester. Giants without someone named Jones in team. You know what I mean. Such a team as a without a Jones being involved, Jeff Coaching or common James, playing, looking at the organization, obviously, where instantly saying well, this is an ownership change. They're the ones forcing this stroke. How Much Do you think coach van? As as Of this decision making process. I think coachman is definitely understanding that oversee. They can't be starts is a major play. What you're to you know within the. We've been the lineup these because you know, you could end up with another season like you have before. have to bring in a little bit debt, but Guys definitely! The glue guys I can't really see you know. He put a lot faith in them oversee. But they went through bad times together, and if they're able to turn around. At least I've been there. They felt never seen this side. If I was him, I would want them in my program. We'll see you kind of need people that you know, and if they're gonNA stick up you then hey, you know you've gotTA. Have these guys in this team? So I think it's GonNa be. He's GonNa get a blank cut Because well. We still don't know this is shortly enough. They said they're gonNA. Keep him on for another season. Let's see what happens, hey. That went into drop these story. I don't think anybody else's. saw. Saif right now I think Maybe. This is maybe second wave of tied this coming in. ICON see anyone returning Juno. You had to say. The teen didn't win a game season and let's be frank. They weren't GonNa win a game all season for them Kobe to. The ignominy and the embarrassment of being the only team ever not win a game in the BB l.. As kind of saved in that situation, but like you say you find it hard to believe that coach Bernd would have made this decision or wouldn't have been again. Nice decision because he's got people in the trenches. With him during bad times, and you kind of want people yeah I. Agree with you. There's no way that if they want to be competitive, those guys. It's time five. But maybe one of them starting Hof the game this year. You know John Steinhoff. The Games maybe James an English coming off the bench. That's not bad alongside full goods, import pies obviously won't be able to with English. It'd be three import players, and then a couple of other Brits you know maybe bring. Me Back headed back and. It just seemed to really really strange mood, and you'd love to know what's going through. The minds of the ownership of the moment is symbolic thing. Do you think this is a lot of symbolic? He's outside of actually playing this in going when the owners is going to be all white and it's going to be different white. and. Fired more, you said earlier on this will be the first time in a long time. That has got Jones in the title. Match the bus. Maybe onus bats one that factor as well. Maybe they feel that there's a clear on that and they want to rebrand what what is something that can actually take something four not have that. That EM- put for family, which is very very. Heavily heavily concentrated with him matches the boss capable. Is GonNa be the next couple of months with this team running into the beginning of the season, and seeing the signs and the movements that I make gonNA be in A. WE'RE GONNA. Find the get our answer. Overstate but to drop. Because you go to now, column could probably Civilly Goto Cheshire somewhere close. You know so he can balance work as well so it could really come back in. Hold them at the end of the season losing class like this. It really really can and unite. Kate with changing the tide and everything like that, but to go cold Turkey with not a high major budget. Is something something that I? Would you know as a coach and even know? About. Scary. You mentioned it. They're kind of want to pick your brains on. These guys. All of the working outside of outside of playing ball at the semi pro players that oversee limits geographically James. I imagine he's now at the point where he's. I WANNA play boss will for fun. And I could see him going to Manchester Magic magical dropping down into one of the into a national league team, or maybe not planet so competitively now English, potentially a similar thing dropping down. CAL each Chechen Tony. Kahn Abebe option says he wants to play more time to mow seasons in the BB l.. Each Chechen the option for him. Taking for close instance simplicity the Har-. Yes I mean. Where else are you? GonNa do that that double lifestyle. It was made it easy for an here. He can make you know. It's not taking him out of his way really to continue to try this much real, no that. Site and he would make an impact on that team especially the way bringing a little bit of experience and I can shoot accenture. Do it kind of fits perfectly with that type of team which they have this? I can really see that type of thing committee. Come back and bite them in the heart of it, so I hope it doesn't but I really you know the letting them not doesn't sit right massively for maybe the situation. McCallum now I'm sitting there in Chechen shoes on robbing Muhammed one. I'm getting a very good plan huge amount of experience. And? He's come out by city said. I'm not bothered about salary. He's got British. Possible he copious style in five clough or sake man, and in most BB L. teams. Game for I imagine travel expenses and a little bit of play money, no mold and not going to be painful wage. That could be a game changer for gesture you put column joins into Jessica's team. That brings. Any tonight huge amount of experience that could be a real change of Chechen. A candidate can be something that actually helps them balance. A couple of winds bring a little bit more experienced to the you know within the group and yeah. I think it's a step for them the. I would definitely if I'm Ben. On on the chasing down and try to make everything possible for him just to come from place for us, really really I am yet now I agree with you the anything else. I can say with the to comment potentially getting Lewis to somewhere lot Manchester, magic and Jumping into that program, do not mean. He says he's missed wants to be communist dimensions. He's been always about Manchester boss school and to jump to that. They kind of arch enemies. That would be a wonderful story to tell because some good marketing school off the back of that sure win the English some only being unkind. To. Think that there isn't a future in the for him. Dis, what you'll thoughts. You think you could see this Mike Movie. He oversee played for Leeds Bullseye kind of help on that Alpi. Overly ill-advised. Now 'cause he ended up in season. That was helpful. It's all supplies us. Only half for a few weeks. I came back and haunted them because they came up with Manchester. Big leads force. In good guy, he's a good team guide. Can we seem you know? I imagine geographically. It's on. They're going to be Sheffield maybe or Chechen. Could you seem jumping in either of those? Yeah you. You can see him. Get involved in that sort of thing I. Don't think it's over for him. I just think where he has to go now is is he I think maybe sometimes shepherd would be better for him. Because light lost yet. They were planning on a depleted roster us. Shekel needed that one or two extra guys just to be able to continue continue at that pace to be able to play He would definitely bring a bit more hit. Definitely bring bodies to it and hopefully not so much commitment like he would have to so yeah you Sheffield for him I think that cheap quite. Quite fit. That's quite A. Colt is going to be in Chechen seeing within goes wherever he goes. Excuse me and. If anyone offers up for that like I say. I think the situation absolutely. Massively Damages Chansa land fought now because. How value for money, you're going to get more talent from an American. Input spot necessarily surly Offman any plan, but I hope not I hope seeing is going to be not seen him flop the last time in the BB, L. hopefully his undoing joy gooding. Cost! Nothing I can. Just finally to. This move, make you more or less confident. Of Manchester Game Wings next year. I just have no idea. I'm expecting this potties. Folks Hoodie hit first. Sight for. Review I. Think some things you know I was speaking to that last year. Say I it's hard for you because you've got to bring these guys. Instead of bringing them off, the bench shifts. Start them, and you have to play them over over too many minutes, and a perfect situation would be him to already. You know the way the BBL's made up. You really have to go off the yet your local players. British players to be able to to bill debt senior squad, and hopefully unlike some other leagues new bringing the Americans to fill in the things. You don't have so with that. VOSS, right? You kind of know what you've got an. It's easy to build on now. It's just a completely blank canvas, so we have no idea until it gets off the plane. What is actually going to happen? And how they gonNA find some sort of consistency? Because again it is obviously scrape claim that start again. The thing. I think I'm Andrew. Move doesn't make me more confident. This move makes me less confident, but I still am more confident and they're going to get wins next year, so. You know what I mean. I guess I had no chance. They will literally not being horrible as a team that were garbage. They just didn't work that they didn't find any full. The game where Kinda Click folding spells, but I still comforting. They're going to get more wins. I just think this is absolutely the wrong. Whites Gov I agree with you. These three guys are upset. Rules. His English differently. He's going to be an import. Slow moving down the rotation. You know, keep them neck. Help them to teach the new guys. Manchester boss basketball! Give them some pride in a city that they're gonNA be, representing. An ultimate Eden three to on Bastos for the car is now. You're kind of a massive bits and mouth and. How you compulsive. Unless. They're the biggest problem. I don't see why they're changing that problem right now, so. Sticks. Roll over an open. Exactly unless we're wrong in this things that we don't know about unless they're the biggest problem in that. Why is the biggest event that's coming out matches the right now. Yeah, no I, tell you now. They own the biggest problem Manchester. The you know, no, all of them. is saw their you know. Most coaches would love to have class on their team. Okay, let's jump pontoise second question another departure situation. WE'RE GONNA jumping to north of the border now. Glows Guy. Cram cells of League champions. WAY WHICH FAB, laughter and ridicule from the rest of the League probably rightfully so to be fair. Question I. Have for you is around. The changes of being forced on gloves. Go now, coach. Has Left. He's taken. Players with him to his new club. The question is how big is the whole left on cultural? For the rocks, and even more so taking those three places. It's Matha why it doesn't intend. They're obviously going to budget cuts one. You know I don't think if if there was a an issue with budget. If there wasn't an issue of budget I'd. Lundi. I don't see what reason he would have to leave because he was on the championship. Contender team right there. And he had, you can see what mood him to France. And I don't think Frazier's gone to front of is actually on the Holland that you seem reply. He's gone and stuff like that. If you believe twitter right now. This. Is a definitely left. But yeah, he's. He's taken his key place. We always said as well in the beginning at the even with the BB B. Cup period everything that we sold that he you know we will criticize him. Then side. You know he has. He's having to work harder, but we always knew he had on the valley players. He got his team. He was able to make that run. He plays very good basketball with that team, and it's all being dismantled, so it's definitely going to be about the budget thing because it's A. Loving there and I'm looking to continue to continuously boost my career. I'm winning with Glasgow next season. No matter no matter what so for me. It's definitely a budget deal. Do, you think. So you think he's clearly, it's a number is literally. The number doesn't marry apply the his wage demands of what he needs to build a competitive team. You think is that number? Would you think is pure uncertain? We have no idea if the. Even take place next year, whereas it feels like other countries, a more focused on the likes of Boston, a niche in this country not saw France. A nice seem to have a plan in place maybe behind closed doors in the end of the season for those leaks, is that part of it the uncertainty of even having a competition to coaching. I think I think for him I think it's more for his record where he wants to be as a coach, maybe than just the unsettles they. Get uncertainty everywhere you go, obviously, yes, the the biggest factor is that most of the leaks will play without would behind closed doors in the you know. The Leagues will come together to support that the other thing, but for me I. You see he was the guy that wanted what he wanted did what he did bowling in the plastic and he was able to fire. I do think some ways. It probably is a numbers game that he can't get the people as he won't in and you know for a coach that's expire into as far into be somebody like is I think that's that's a good way to go from top of the League to broaden the League in one season conduct. Free Damages your career in a little bit and you know having the people around you that you know that can make you successful. Really really helps. Oh, five got an opportunity. Take elsewhere I'd probably take the same auction A. Fair enough the one that I want to pick your brains on how four on this one overseas a coach itself interested. What your thoughts! I know where my brain foods on this, which is the Big Lost Style Alec? Fraser or coach? A. If you could say if you're the GM you'll the owner of Glasgow Roques, you can only keep one who you keeping. Way It's Allie Fraser is very dominant big man in this league. If you don't have a coach to play that way. He could get lost. Ali Fraser will achieve. Run your. He can run your program as long as you plates him. especially with in this league. but I think he had the idea I think he she. The confidence, the ever thinking to into Glasgow this season and hit to me I think they will continue to Fi- even with phrase of I think. Coach, really a different. Aspect something that was looking for that wasn't over dominated by. You. Know Life Room before the Scottish choirs, etc, Cetera. He was able to get everybody on an even Keel and make them play for each other abundant. Far It, you know he then go rank KUNA suitable. They look very rolled and disciplined and understood what they were doing so I think because of that he he's probably a big loss losing fraser himself, but if he doesn't go so sure as well. You know what you just want me over I was think on the way if I wanted literally but me but I always think baseness Brian I was thinking we'll. Phrase is the skull. You can market you he. He's your Garin HR. Paul version to kind of rebuild on from that kind of fail, but I agree with you. The coach is that multiplies the amplifier, so let us yes, in necessarily have the best roster. But he made. The is play better than they should have you know? Coach does right. And with a charter, even if you look back that and be honest, didn't really work for Chara. It still faulted some way. I was able to bring something different out of these guys in the change in our. He brought in the American suit the way he was played to play with Alli Fraser Ali Fraser got so many touches at the board. It was very key component and it was. You know very well crafted, and that's why he's going to be a very big miss. You know I, enjoyed watching the games against Worcester Roy enjoy watching the you know. He was somebody I really enjoyed watching coach and you know he's going to be a big miss not only just Glasgow but post league eighteen. Gigs everywhere is. Exactly Yeah? Yes! He! Because he can understand what he's doing. The why store it? That's the reason why I like. We've obviously touched on this kind of Scottish. Mindset in the Scottish colder we see within the rocks and they continue to do that. With the departure Fraser. Is it time for the rocks to give up on this idea of trying to have. You know key elements of their team being, Scottish. Yeah I think I think it's time to you. Lose somebody like Ali Frazier everybody else you'd worry. Marina goes well, you know. Is it time now to to to to? If, you can see home so. Are you going nowhere Mario going. In twenty. Years you. Google even hide that face. It's I did. Where were we? What question we're all? Kind of cool to that team should have banned in this point. Should get because unless developing it then how you GonNa, bring it through, you know. They need to develop a winning coach that coach within the club. And then somehow makes the SCOTTISH BRAND FIT Next season I prayed to go, but we'll go probably going to say a decrease in for in an opportunity you know quote. Marks everywhere given to play as where you can't have opportunity in the professional league. It's a professional league. In a is the you that to win, and and for for a team, no wonder he wanted to get his hands on that trophy. It's. He said because he might not have a chance. He's best going to happen. To Me Glasgow of. If I'm if I'm looking as an investor, etc, Glasgow have and the Rena gloves go have a program. Wells have a business club. Glasgow have all the Aventis to take to the next level, and sadly with this departure I feel is taking a big step back so I think you can make it just alone is like having a British dame as well having the old British team all English. Champions League! So it just doesn't work. You go to bring in some sort of jazz to make that competitive within the structure because you're not gonNA. Get everywhere if everybody's aside. Yeah. I think the key isn't necessarily about what you come from is how long you stay there. You the franchise around a class from any country on the planet. They will be there longer than a year. You know what I mean. These guys need to believe in the vision and say okay. He's all all idea. Vision your twenty two year old twenty-three-year-old. By the time you'll twenty-seven. We're GONNA be planning your. Lane Wigan assign you into that. That's why we need to go from here. It's about with going in. Scotland it's about well commitment, personally make to be a face of the franchise now. That's the key for me I'm just jumping to the coaching situation quickly before we finish up on this question. What kind of coach to goals go need now so obviously previously you hide studying Davis of a lotto? Wow, I feel bad now by gotten maybe blanks out the guy in the middle name. Just rings plays out he he was there for a while. Anneli OC went to coastal. Go you know what was the kind of the profile as you are of a coach should bring bringing now. I think it's. It's going to be some busy ought. To get you ready stumped me these live and try to think about. How do you guys the only way you're gonNA go back a little bit backwards right now? You gotTA. You gotTA. Have Somebody without you know you're not gonNA. Have to say mix like patients as plus season. Because money won't profit that. You know you've got to start again. You know you're going to be on a reduced budget to somebody that's understanding with that a may be. United this is where our ways wish. Club had clubs structure with assistance. and take the assistant coach role seriously, because if you know, there's another clubs that go through assistance, the actually keep their assistance understand the value of the club. And when they're in times like this, they can be promoted the head coach, and it's perfectly fine that they slipped back down to a system when the new guy comes in 'cause. What you're looking for is consistency within that management position. Position Within the club. That doesn't happen in this league so again you go into that massive Yo, Yo effect, which will not only devalue club, but also lose fans and build confidence in what you're doing so to me, it's a it's a big big problem within the League. The you know assistant coaches aren't valued as fulltime staff of in clubs on what into the program hard enough because he likes. Puffing example happened remember the last time. What's his name? That went to all? And it happened in gloves in Edinburgh. And he went to many carried on remember his nightmare Michael Even though embarrassing The other night as well is who have worked so then. Just, we. Bring knocking off a bit the dust. Thank you, he went to old. Create unique develop that program and brought them into. You know a high level European program with the right thing. These guys really really valuable that you could. IMBED in your program. And I just wish that there's a difference switch of mindset and taking this assistant coach coach value, relationship. Seriously so the thing I make the me the thing. I've got about this. Hogue laws thing seen from the outside looking at it. The appointment of the coach is GonNa. Tell me more about what Glasgow do next year, then their initial class on it's. Taken this. Are they going to take a youngish know much experience. Obviously you know is upon. Aw Are they gonNA. Go Booze out. Go to Europe. Find a storied coach who? Has Been there dumb that little bit announce about some good network of contacts knows implies that you can bring who they going. Go full. Where are they going to go to me the coaching? Whoever they assign coach they bring in. His coach tells me how serious they are about being competitive and trying to win silverware next shit. you want. To weather the storm, you bring into weather, the storm and that way you bring in years to weather the storm or you bring inexperienced doesn't really WANNA balance they engaged his career fervor someone. You can't have somebody like the because he wants to continuously control, so you have to go for a very young guy that's going to be up to take them. Take them hits or older experienced guy that doesn't really over his own personal record. And he could he could, if not gonNA spend his reputation and he's able to sit down and work with this team. And Okay one bit before we finish up on this question. With all the things that's happened all the stuff. We're hearing about girls going off season. How confident are you there going to be competing for silverware next year? I don't think that's going to happen I think they're going to slip back down to two little bit lower in the in the table from what you hear from the hemorrhage that they've taken and probably losing the Best Scott. I think it's a big hemorrhage time for that club, which is a damn shame, because they you know they starting to make tracks and progress ego aspects of the club so. I can see them probably finding out for. Best property midtable position if you believe what you read. From the field I get I think. A top four finish would be a great result and again. This is without any players we don't want. The other teams is signing particularly so this is really early stages, but just this kind of a theory of Vale. You get the whole team. I think all finish would be a great result for Glasgow because they've lost three head coach. Everything's been ripped away from `success walls. I think it's helpful. I think they're still tops. You know just thought failure the infrastructure in the way they do stuff. They should still be a top sixteen at least. Yes. They they should have the with what they have. They should always looking to be in that position. To me what they've lost and no word of what's coming in. is a big worry as well. As Glasgow Glasgow Roxanne. I have a feeling. We're going to have a few chats this coming season about wrong, so they always keep gives plenty to talk about which is Great. Great Okay. Final question before we get kicked off this soon chat. Wonderful to say London lines, they put it applications. Boss with Champions League Fiba understandably roms off. They loved to British teams invoked in European competition like into the qualification round. They'll either be facing net. Votes AVEC free or grown again. In the first round, those games will take place in the fifteenth and eighteenth of September. The first game will be in London think September. Question got for you. Is All the lines GONNA? Make it through to the boss Champions, league, regular season. That's a tough group Bam. Festival I'm happy happy. The Guinness H One T. Refine the back in this discussion of European basketball, however, the full teams. Four teams are living with us in that. Living with the London minds within that qualification group whichever one they have. season. Being! The Champions League live. Ivankov competed very highly within your cup. You know experienced and going back flipping back to the Glasgow. Rocks compensation that we just had here is a perfect example as well as you might be able to start money at it, but is this going to be day one of a program moving forward with the London lines or is this GonNa be a one year. Kick it out and let's move again again which we cannot have as. As, we cannot have as a country, but I'm very very happy that making that move into this I. Just hope that that funding is going to be there. Because what they will play is the. We'll play teams that okay. You'll be out to stick with them for thirty minutes thirty five minutes, but they just have that little bit extra the end so dependent. How big this budget is! We will soon say, but I'm very very excited that back I. One Les say is great for US great for anyone around responsible to see European competition. Looking at is full teams May. To to avoid net Tunis volts for that tron avoid like I, think they the two real candidates I join against those I'd rather see them. Go against a free book or a grown again. What's your thoughts on? C.? You know, dodge possible pretty well. How? Grown in just taken a whole re revamps. They've just read the coach to the Fiba Cup finals. You know couple of years back. A Ford in a couple of you know. They got season pros. They got a couple of veteran players back from Spain It, they've got an extremely European dominant roster as well as free bogus well I've been teaching The in this competition. That these guys have had. Its European experience all the way so I'm not looking forward to taking on any of them, but what I am looking for. This is just putting ourselves up against the level. That's compete a hope on taking it seriously in preparing early this trying to get within the stations, but this is a definitely a stomping ground like go to stop moving into so I'm very happy doing it, so but maybe grow them if I was decided, because said you knew team put together with a new coach data on on focusing on. To get. The me if we flip it around the other way as well. I'm very much if I'm one of the other teams out of the teams I could face compose also the lowest seeded team lines are the ones I don't want to face their unknown. Play a very different style of basketball. The most of these teams are used to play a lot more American up and down athleticism than they used to. So yeah, you flick the I. Don't think many teams will WanNa face lines aid really done. Something Kenny of these team. I. Don't WanNa face him, but I do WANNA face them over two legs. I'll give you that. Give you that you don't want them into one dog and Niagara Go. I WANNA face a team that. Works, out how they play good. And these teams are very used to play like that. You know they've played season competitions with this of structure against traveling every everything my desk, so these teams are going to be ready, because that's a big prize Paul if they get into the regular season, and after this, remember the still more another round to go through to get through to this. Three to two Europeans seems to get at the second round takes place on the twenty second and twenty fifth. Of September jumping into the roster for lions now. Some big ones in that we'll just jump in and do you re relevant briefly? I Stop Brandon Peel. How surprised are you that he's gone? It seems strange. He seemed very suited for European boss, and then when they actually get there, he's not going to be. A the lines roster. Yeah, to say means. Somebody's looking definitely. To to hide, replace his position. Obviously looking maybe denies so couples stay. So. Debris. Somebody, that's GONNA fit into Brandon pill. Maybe looking in European competition. They're looking for somebody. More veteran is or understand about position that his position, but for you know to. If he's second guy in that position within European competition I'm still a very happy man, so it's very strange. Op Three is see at. She got it was three years. He was for three years. Yeah I I so for him to move on especially to a team that isn't play in European competition that that that says the volumes coming out with either the direction of the club will or just he. DidN'T WANNA. Stay any longer is for me. It just seems really strange because there's a Korean. If Brandon knew that they were going. Europe. Seems. Yeah, he'll probably be any more money where he's gone, but he's not short time next if he could get into the into the boss where Champions League regular season, because some points on a few teams. He's going to be gone. Mainland Europe on big on relatively big-money following season. That's only takes you know that's. Look! How that's why you're. He's a big deal for some these guys. He go to shop itself in the market. It's not be a you know. TV time more exposure more understanding of the guy putting yourself up against different leagues. Is A big. It's a big platform for him, but. Maybe. You never know what was optimum. Highs land site. Site incident. If it the only way I can see that they're getting rid of Brandon. Pill is because they're going to bring in a diversion the brandon pill. That's the Weinstein you'll be. Dumping across. The back it now. How much zits on the shoulder? The Robinson on whether lines can make it through to the regular season? How much? Does he take? It takes a of burden and you know you could be looking maybe Andrew Lawrence, twelve to come in and help him out with another American. I think that balance in their. If they've got the budget today, that would be a very interesting might look forward. but Justin Robinson Hey. It's been two years. MVP, you know so now now, assange the. You get what you wish for putting yourself back into the high level. When the now it's time to go, so now you get to prove it with the with the different talk level so to me, he's. Fully prepared. He's been at that club now for two years. He knows exactly the inside out so that club and how they want. You know how he's got the controlling factor. It will be interesting. I mean Vince is overseas. Go coach that so he understands. He understands that dynamic, so you can see him being a key leader I think you can do it all on his own, and he just needs a little bit. How? It because he's not a naturally score in sort of athletes as well. You know he's going to be interested in. Say Like I say. I think if the himmy must be some proud. Taking a London team first time in I'M GONNA, say! Golden is how many years in European competition is cream. You know that's a real accolade for him. He came back and wanted to give something back to a basketball and helping the team to Seattle or Europe. That's the way it goes. That's huge him. Talking about obviously coach from calling their. He'll have money now with new investors. He's obviously now. Minority Shat hold a triple, seven, seven, seven, seven of coming and taking the majority shareholding money. Not so we'll see why this is happening. With that money, he's going to be allocated. Do you think he should go for a short rotation and put all his money into high quality plans or try and spread that out and have maybe a slightly lower quality, but the bench. I think needs to a spine of seven seven to eight. To really be an impact quick. I think you need that very quick. Everybody's You know there's not much time to prepare with these in A. Flip the qualifying games if if you WANNA make. If, you WanNa make an impact. You gotta make an impact now. Probably having instead of six guys have eight guys, so there's no surprises the two legs. And really run with the budget. Let's face it if they don't qualify through. You can always put plays on short short term contracts. That to try and get these guys to come in just to play the. Play into the European have cutouts on their contracts. Maybe when the European season is over the they leave, but give eight plays the opportunity to really really dig and have a goat. Yeah, no I completely agree with you, it's it's going to be interesting to see how how this goes on where they put money. By the grapevine that you hear in British basketball. He's knocking on the door of the good and great of British boss. CABOOSE is going off. Some of the high profile British players. Sight skit just came to see who brings in how long I stay round four and how we can mesh, what will be lying a much higher talent level than had to work with previously. We obviously talked about. Can I make the regular season? That's one question. The other question I kind of flip on this is say they do get through to the regular season. That's tough. Boss Champions League Week in week out. That have some very very good level teams. They are going up the likes of galatassary coming into. The Bonds Will Champions League for the first time. That's going to be tough. Would they be better now to say? Shona lose before you even started would rather have a pretty good season, maybe making the postseason in the Europe, cop than having an absolute kick in the regular season, the boss Champions League what would do the mole mortgage thing. I think qualifying for the bureau. Couples I think that's definitely. That's definitely you know. But you must. You must continue to hold that place and see what the levels like so one hundred percent goes hot as you can then take that as far as you can. Within the Champions Lake, the regular season port, though I think it would be beneficial for European for us to gain European experience etc to take on that Fiba Euro Cup. Slot! And the season see if you can get two or three, you know two wins have been the first year. It takes you through to the second round. The good thing about that competition now is nobody drops down in from the Champions League is set, and that's the competition that you play. So you're able to learn more about the teams, etc, so this is a this is the I think if you for the consistency in the to continue European bus capable. That's the best way to go forward. If you'RE GONNA, go straight into with the big guns. It gets arrived to never think about that with no experience on a like getting caught in his. Glove. Yeah on my watch, yes. But. I'm playing that. It'd be ready for that. Not, simply Truly is simply a budget they. You know if you can pay your way into that, it might not make you win, but is that result or are you going to give the south five zero five year period to say okay, let's learn about this. Let's do this. Let's continue. The in London has very very high business thing European Games I. Know that down on the fans, but it's an excellent way of bringing in business. and money the cub instead of and then the fans will follow the high level. You get to the competition the united so. For me it's A. It's a decent structure to us, and I would rather be playing European basketball. Instead of just doing the cliche English one season, the neons inaugur the I think the long term, obviously you the boss for using showtime, but longtime I think a good campaign in Europe Cup. Like you said. Where are we what we won't saw? Standard where you know. Every year absolutely go to qualify for the Bachelor Champions League, and if you make it great, but if you go into Europe. I think that's where we need to be at the. BB. L. Now and agree. I'm just hoping that the the money men behind the lines new of projects all of that for more than one year. You know a blank check, but they can at least i. Suppose. You agrees of European competition as long as you domestic to finish where you need to get into it, but. The thing is. You just don't want. Somebody signed him big checks. The no reason you know thinking everybody phase, everybody remember listened to a interview with Russell and they were going around asking of clubs. How much is it to get into this competition? Know? How much did you spend? If you're thinking of that straight away, you're not thinking of how we're going to progressive in this tournament over years I just think in. Let's go and see what's going to happen I think teams have done that before. They've got to be smarter than that. I wouldn't write big checks to go to a competition. I can't compete in. You. Know you see the development within European in other teams. Some teams, some leagues have eleven teams, which makes the basketball better because they have to have deeper rosters within Mt. Because, they got a high level of Gaze, which brings more basketball, which brings better talent, which brings harbors, everything, which is money, which is everything, so we gotta put ourselves into position, but I will definitely be supporting the lines going full of this. Because I think it's a massive step. It's a step that every year. Not just one in one out. We have to be taken to the guy okay to finish off then you're gonNA have to jump off the fence this. Represents all lines and making it through to the boss, which happens regular season. Will see them in the Phoebe Europe Cup. For the rest of the season, so the qualifying rounds, but for me three rounds two rounds of this, and then the big boys get dropped in the next rounds you can I saw can with shallow all two seasons guy you know had had the Polish teams Chuck Timber Mercier. You know very well against Mercier, but it was still the powerhouse is going to win because money talks and went up to that. Look date down I've seen some budgets budget for Houston. The budget and twelve is about four million dollars now. Actually, that's not a lot of money. Okay? When you think about it, it's not that much. Money. Is. Spent. But, you have this very true, but then when you go to places like new costal, they have their foundation, which brings in so much as well so you can also balance these things out, and that is the whole competition structure. So how do we get into ourselves sweat? And? It took them a couple years to be able to get exactly where they all. But you've got a rough on the understanding where you need to be. You need to get the belief in it and take it forward back in them I'm not overlooking any thinking thinking. They're going to think because I. was you get these people are GonNa, say oh well. There's no point any more because we didn't make it in this time. Now I think. Things stop. Johnson making it through the regular season. I really do I. Always say with Simon's without seeing any roster or anything place I. Think I've Got Chong's of making it through to the regular season, I, think going into Europe meant a much bigger chance keeping everybody in play which is. Alliance of on and off the that could be huge for them but I agree with you, I think ultimately we probably the old will see him in Europe Cup which again. That's not a bad thing. That's a great competition. They can progress and get a free European wins. The ride has managed to like. Thank close. We can say you know. The lines get a few European wings. That would be great for British possible. I'm GonNa get the whole country, some credibility and European states. Okay right well. That wraps up today's episode of make him say Chris, thank you so much for joining me. Thanks fan great to be back. Yeah, so go and again. I would ever take my debt that star on the tip. Yeah? Keep progressing. Thank you so much for listening in a home We hope everything returns to normal. We'd love to see some boss. Go back as soon as possible, so we've got more stop talk about. But until then. Stay safe.

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We DONT need to talk about ghosts: Episode 10- How to trick the Devil

We Need To Talk About Ghosts

27:22 min | 1 year ago

We DONT need to talk about ghosts: Episode 10- How to trick the Devil

"From a girl goes with. Kevin used us. Hello You'd beautiful people and welcome to the I. If this week's we need to talk about coats I'm of course as ever with the wonderful Rebecca. Your Voice broke. Okay what have you been today? I've been dropping off donations of supplies for paramedics so basically we've got a paramedic station because appears Exxon getting much time to take breaks southlake a little snack station for them to get a drink a some snacks and things. So I've got involved in this jobs off some donations. That's our wish I had your. What's what would you call? It stops ethics moral compass. I have none of these things. I listened to the email from work before. Saying we've had lots of people asking how you can volunteer for the company whilst you're off furloughed unfortunately card but you can be `candide to another company who can help give you something to do with your time giraffe and I was like no way. I'm not because I don't want to donate my volunteer. My time hop. I'll give all the money in the world as we have them. But I am no eliminating the world-beater bought me. Time is literally navigate your time back and unlike a lot of people who will be now to do with time. I literally could not have free time. It's not just like trying to fill the hour. You are beyond the coach at the minute. Well I feel like I'm fit and healthy. You know we're all just locked. Down on are not an at risk. If I I'll probably be fine fit and healthy just here I feel like I can help people who need help so person also the minute at what of obviously everyone's in a precarious financial situation especially those working in events so I don't have surplus money to be given to be donating but what I do have now. We said let's time so. I'm happy to donate time instead of money unless you. Are you upset before you bought all of the person? I am very much the doctor your light because time is the one thing that I. I'm very skillful into with this volunteer. In China food weeks and weeks to festival signed up the Mayor of Louisville. Put up this call is wanted to scientific Australia. I am able to the week or two so I started following these groups on facebook live local community groups and things wasn't getting much there. Is that like someone to put up a request help and that but someone beat me nothing annoys. So let's say for like I'll be festers. Wasn't that you like this. Not This particular group so you like aggressive against someone AFO. Stop saying this magical. Not least we'll be like as well as donations will be looking for anyone. You can pickle unlike green donation series for for the Peo- self-isolation for example a happy to donate. They need people to drop off. So I've said Yes to that. Like and commented on yourself but then one of the moderators or whatever as said. They should be in another good. Like can you move this to a different groups? So they've put up a special group for it so then I've like way in and see nothing so that you said you need a like I'm here I really like. There's a mosques. Oh Yeah also personally approach guy very mounts to vote. They're the donation. Remember the so that the body store want bodyshop so someone in Tom was doing. I'm putting together. Parks people donate impacts of toilet cheese. And things you care. Homes and that people who are struggling to get stuff and he'd put like we'll be making off on Thursday like common collect them. We can't do what we can collect and I thought well not. Everyone is going to be able to collect on that day down his email address. Email high. Like if you need a car I can pick them or if anyone needs them. Get them you know. Especially because the Karen people to that he said thanks and it was kind of a floor but you never did. I'm not convinced he didn't need any wandering off. And Yeah no highlight aggressive volunteer. I've been joined every- not zoom zoom yet strangers about echo. So there's a copay nineteen live. Don't talk about. We don't mention stick with the Volunteer Games. A lot of this acorn is a slate. It is volunteer with that. Was what zooming in most Ryan and they need leafless zone also with that I've got this his spreadsheet the people feel it again. It's like the second someone someone else's not cutting proffer. I mean it's Nice. Obviously because it means Assefa voluntee- is is the cartoonist within this volunteer community. It's just you just when you open and you're like oh it's already filled in. I would love that. You know what I'm like. I'm an expert and I'm going to volunteer our volunteer. Victoria's got it all to be nice with no there's no casting nice thing that people do indeed just makes you feel a bit you know. It's it's funny. I used to want to be doing it. Quick looking at all times trying to will in Im- slightly like esoteric. News of the promise of decorative didn't know existed which I wanted to run by and it's actually a kraken website. I should really mention what it is. Somebody posted online on one of the groups that are follow college up but anyway it was a link to an article and I felt so. I'M GONNA look at this as a website and it's a great website. Let me see if it can find it anyway. The thing that it actually is the littlest esoteric x ray or so tracks. It's called S. O. T. E. R. X. DOT COM. Go CHECK IT OUT GUYS. If you're into all this stuff as Yorkers you're listening it's got loads of great articles on Esoteric subjects and there's some really well written written articles on their the article after me to it. Maybe think about one of our previous chats which is protests on how to cheat the devil so it means if you've got into a contract with the devil so you get out of it so you can still get things but it's not. It says PLO tips. There's actually one tip then. It discusses a few times misleading. It's a greater. It's a great website so it's not totally yesterday. E R X dot com esoteric works actually so the Tiziano. The tip is okay. The typical. It's happened twice in history is when you've made deal with the devil. The Devil apparently says I know you said because the devil so vain and very good with GRANDMA. Grandma within trucks sation. Exactly when he says he will probably say the the outcome of this was that I will take your soul relevance of your body being buried within or without the church so you work around. Is You get buried in a in a church wall? Apparently so that you neither within over without it doesn't seem like the greatest of tips because is gonNA start digging the foundations of chairs very unit. That's where I thought I'd have a job now. If you needs to be raised within a territory is a hard job persuade someone to let me just hack out and put you in refers back to an interesting story with actual physical evidence of this previously happened? So he says in thirty and fifty eight day. The vicar of the Church of SRA Millie Khan in Denver North Wales which will being passed his name was David do her drug further sake of messing that up you will from now called David. Okay you had the misfortune of dying the little village of Dementia Roaster not ability at this is the interesting thing at the end of the nineteenth century to discovery of dinosaur bones in the area and he goes on to say in the next sentence. Something which I don't think he's messing with when he says this and just as surely and everybody knows the devil berries initial bones just to confuse us a make believe in evolution claim before Yahweh from Baptists but So he says sippy faith but then he goes on because he goes on to say that. That's Evans that the devil was definitely in Denver. She at the time is not physically himself. Space to says David also happens to be celebrated poets and Akron and grammarian so it says to the A- bargain was made between them that the vicar should practice the black art with impunity during his life. But the devil should possess his body after death where he whether he was buried within or without the church and this was taken from eighteen. Ninety five this writing. The irritated demon. Thereupon on suicide exploiting both his superlative grammatical skills and vicarage knowledge of the church. He crafted his SEATAC. Pack to Philadelphia and retain the sole focusing with precision on the phrase within or without the where. The vicar cheated his ally of his bargain by being buried within the church itself. So what is the vicar doing? Make inbox dental. I thought that like surely of all vehicle but it's an interesting thing that also though do we think. Now what does that eighteen ninety five do? We think that since then the devil might updated is contracts. Yeah to be less might be like like what what you do now. An e-signature thinking of closed that loophole in in my top throws the what it got me thinking about where he saying that dinosaur bones put there by the devil to make us not believe in evolution which is nonsense even miserable person. That's absolute nonsense. Bought now I'm thinking you know we've talked about in the past making pact with the devil so we get those of wealth like joked about it. Now I'm thinking I wonder if to do that you would have to note. We talked also about chaos magic in the. You have to believe the thing you do. In for the duration of that spell you believe in whatever religion is for the duration not spell. I wonder if that's part and parcel with it. Like the degeneration dispel. I'd have to believe that the devil puts dinosaur bones down to fill people because I just don't think I could buy into that even as a fake believe anything that caught me onto another subject as well which I thought that's interesting I've not heard and this is called future life progression. Have you had this know what it is? But this allegedly people making law money from that Lake psychotherapists and stuff because it's similar to regression in terms of you know. Oh I was a sailor back and and that's why I am now afraid of water infra around but what it does is because the future is tangible and not central. The future conflict show eight because not sandstone. What it makes you do it makes you. He Britain to go under hypnosis and instead of just going regressed go back to ten years ago. Go back to one hundred years ago. You go go five years into the future. Tell me what you're doing. And he the hypnotist apparently positions it. In a way where you see yourself doing the best possible outcome Roy is possible for you to achieve what could easily be quite demotivating in. Let's say from the net you completely happy really made you making a living from podcastone music for example. Probably then hypnotist is able to say well. Let's completely achieve makes you when you come out to the hypnotism follow. Whatever paths is needed to talk to follow that life allegedly caused us. Article has been so successful that where the hypnotist has kept in touch with the person went under. I like this woman. For example east go forward two years. And she said she was experiencing childbirth although she did not over time and she was also experiencing shame because she was married and go for another five years she was pregnant again said go in between that she felt like she was drowning and then he kept in touch with them found two years later. She's pregnant to a man she'd met wasn't married till Tuesday to else. She tried to drown herself but was saved at the last minute and threes after that to pregnancy should all tied but you could take a self fulfilling prophecy them. What you've already said you could. Also it doesn't sound like she was pleased about it if she's feeling change. She was drowning. It sounds like wolf to the positive about just near integral points. Actually it would be better. Well I mean the thing is I suppose if it was better eat off no way of like following in the the way it would be beneficial is like for some you say alright. Five years in the future you know you're a Rockstar Plan. And if you went back four years what we do in three years what we do in two years what we doing one year. What you were doing so that you could them follow the bill. So it's almost got like the manual on it is you. If you're saying that the future fluctuates. But this guy is offering you the best possible on your then. I think it's fair to SM. Is that. They wouldn't all be that you could do. Festival was one five years. And you're an exactly same position saying job Iverson but if he's shown you the best possible one. The question is how you get there so we can show you. How do you get there was like a life will? I was saying this with Ben. Fair friend of the sheriff full name and I was saying the we both discussed because he's a musician as well as and east got like. We were both talking about competitiveness ago. Where we're both that now and we came up. I'm basically what's happened. Listener is actually. This shows a lot more successful in terms of downloads and temps factor in on some of me hero shows like Chris Jericho send things have happened and twelve months ago. I would've said I remember saying. Are we at that point? That I'm at now. And there was a feeling attached to it where it'd be great like a lot of things fall into place at that point. And he was saying the same thing about his move now in the last twelve months his bands being signed by EMI to do soundscape selects BBC and stuff like this and twelve months ago able to give rights offer that and we would have the same emotion. You know that's Milano. Things moving forward bolt because it's happened drip-by-drip by drip-by-drip. You don't really appreciate that success. Genital mean and then we extrapolate it out and both agreed that we don't think that ever be adorned points even if he becomes exceptionally famous and wealthy offered music and vice versa. If I do through this all through musical whichever else we think it happened so piecemeal in so drip-by-drip that almost like the frog in the boiling water not realized in boiling water because as a slowly heats up the analogy right so for anyone. Who has these executive analogy is? If you pull a frog inboards jumps out at Boylan if you put it in cobalt and heated up slowly. It doesn't recognize the temperature change so that it is not true but it's a good analogy so yeah so it's an interesting wonder if you would have to step back because. I think that's why you ought to celebrate the milestone Sonia like into the benchmarks because you are so easy to not let things slide by bit by bit but like for example a big one for you would be like leaving work to be financially. Nabis the biggest meal on the bench. Not so us. After you take no to that on celebrates it you know and then you know again using the idea of rock saw. Yes you need to be playing gigs etc etc. Us enough to know. I don't know maybe when you plead you first light five thousand dollars arena GEICO sold out one and then obviously I would certainly take notes out like if you played the pyramid stage at Glastonbury. Bomb you then. You know as far as I'm concerned let's see you there then from them. It's taken away and it's no longer subjective. Jim Yeah it's when you take a minute and enjoy and be like no. This is the this is to kind of recognize in a way that you are where you wanted to be a very good point. It's interesting because I don't like arguably when I started this podcast. If the me who Suttie now hold on this record it's Could speak person when I was getting like forty dollars a day and I was made up when I broke thousand downloads and it took me about four months two thousand downloads. And now every day you know it will wait. Happened and that would have absolutely. I remember a little remember interested in the history of the Pasta. I was a message to Jeremy from the PODCAST. We should. We'll call podcast. We need to listen to a podcast. Listen to or something. And he's a lovely fellow American guy and email them and he said yet. Call the ship analyst right okay at the brilliant and I was made I interview not only referred into. It was an international incident American troughed and then about two weeks after that was poured out in fact it was long about two months and his show was featured in the New York Times. Say suggesting that if you get into podcast. Listen to his show because it's really good and the day after that. I think I got one hundred twenty downloads in a day and remember the emotion going through me body at the time it was like one of absolute hope. You know and I've experienced this a few times a couple of times a year. Something happened like for example. When released the album and called which this soundtrack for the podcast is is one of the songs any recent album and the day that it was released because close friends and family at border and I didn't realize at the time bought it takes very few amounts of purchases to get into the charts bought. I thought check the charts. I won't be in the charts born the singer songwriter. I was number twenty five in the charts and then a check. The soul felt like it left me body and an hour later. Cec. There was number eighty. It was number ten and built rights number two million jobs and the only person above me was at share and the person behind me with Simon and Garfunkel and be made was even bringing me he he on behalf of me had this out of body experience and he was like bringing Megan Latte look like look at the and we were both Harlan laughing. Sailing houses often let it. I know it takes like twenty buys to get to that position but in my head because they know that thousands and thousands of flying off the shelves and this I was leaving work was number. Two in the charts. June was kicked me off the top spot. Even now. That's still at that cool thing. Yeah like that's we've still we'll always you've got that night you always number two things. Yeah definitely but it's it's it's that feeling is the creative with all of these little ventures like. This is a game changer. Don't know which ones duly to split. And which ones don't know the thing but that is the feeling that a chase. Yeah and it's it's such an overriding feeling of anything and it's very very fleeting when it comes but when those home it's amazing the best deal in the world there was a drug that could encapsulate that would be on it. Because it's such a good feeling and I wonder when the next one of those is Will it be musical Willoughby podcasts? To be honest I thought get off the Jericho interviews because I assumed because he gets like eight hundred thousand dollars per episode. That the first one didn't you? You've got that excitement. I got that excitement because shoe and the next day I look at my downloads and adopt thirty thousand downloads per day. It did nothing. Zero impact zero impact. And then I went on again recently as well that was added on Friday currently not a massive impact. You know there's been maybe a few hundred and it's an interesting thing about to reevaluate. I always seemed if you go in a really popular. Show that get your exposure. How does but now? I'm reevaluate in the relationship with Jericho. Now isn't like I'm just really happy to the fact and talking to Chris. Jericho is a hero. Yeah an inscription goats and paranormal. That's a fucking if it would have said that's all months ago to me. I'll be like yeah absolutely even know. Yeah we were talking about this at the time of the first one because I was I was saying whatever comes off the bucket list like even if there's nothing else all comes off the walk away. I was like the that's like a by the ball up for your birthday. Like the idea of going onto his podcast and just chatting away about the Beatles and ghosts like I would pay anything for it. What about salute? You just enjoy it for what it is and now being on twice. There's been some really good feedback from people who just listened to his show people family through Jellicoe. I'm wondering why there's no discussion about ghosts. Needs to explain. Bought this show yours to now on. These extra shows that undoing because at the situation the world's and at the minute the standard show is out each weekend. So you'll see these tight. Allies will be prefaced prefaced preface status prefaced with. We don't need to talk about ghosts because the show is called. We need to talk about ghost. So that's why we're not talking about coast become these conversations to more just so that everybody can listen to voices that they used to and I found US had explained before some of my favorite passages round with the not see what that soon the the rounds of the minute and gigabit tiresome. You need a bit for scampers instead. Freezer and so. I thought that we did. If you're off for it as well and going to continue if you are into the Patriots addition of this little extra bit that we did we would take that free script and we would act out seeing through. No one's not coming right okay. Maybe we'll just do a random and we're not going to get right into it. We're just going to say and we'll do our best impressions going to be shipped but that's right. It's beyond you to the left so frazier at the Sitcom. We bought a script boop because we love it so much for charity. Show Am. We've done. We did this once before that we were drunk with the projects script politics but ended of us it forged and I did every other because I got quite on occasion quite good on politics. Yeah right so what you want to just want to open around impeach mccracken. So I'll be Ali frazier back around so you can say. I'll stand up in invasions livingroom of you. Read the description of this scene action frazier's dress casually drinking cup of coffee. Anything ESCON while reading morning newspaper as he just stares at him. Frazier won't look at Eddie and this is without looking at the dog Eddie. You're not going to get any of my scones so just forget it and it really to look. You may think you can wear me down but as far as I'm concerned you're not even here. For God's Sake Eddie here get fat and I throw them the scum. You don't sound like frazier. You sound like Kelsey grammer doing the simpsons kaizer doing such a Bob Dylan Bob. Dole wants to kill boss all the time. Maybe that's Kelsey grammer. The Niles comes and you you you into rule like to theatrical because I'm pretty creating day on retreats to enjoy 'em piece passing Martin's answers got you again her yourself to such off touch. I am not enough a bench what I'm eastern. Maybe who doesn't like what you? Maybe he doesn't like what you easy Jewish New Yorker. Maybe he doesn't twenty pence. Why'd you want twenty four in and trust me? He's not picky. I've seen him a feel defenses with a leash. I'll be definitely take Eddie. Let's go football. I thought you already walked in this morning. I did try to go again. She looks she hooks the leash onto Eddie's color. No actually do now. I do is what she's saying. No actually I actually. I do know. Actually I do that. Didn't sound right. This is a very nice looking gentleman. They play Frisbee on his Labrador in Chicago. Even less painful. No idea do didn't sound right. There's a very nice looking. Gentleman plays Frisbee with his Labrador in the park as the hoping. Run into them. Calm see that's how it looks. I'll be phasing out. I'm glad somebody is skipping inside. Come on he's just playing onto guess. I'm glad somebody is why because I thought this would be best announced. Just a bit weird but we all going to continue this on the Patriot. And you've got to look forward to you. Look you look at things? I feel a lot of cancellations. Coming up If you'd like to him out of US doing frazier and Daphne whilst we do these extra episodes and let's be honest who wouldn't even be unempowered scripts in their go to pitch dot comfort slash. 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12/23/2020 - Best of Straight Outta Vegas

Straight Outta Vegas with RJ Bell

30:52 min | 5 months ago

12/23/2020 - Best of Straight Outta Vegas

"What's up everybody. It's jill scott. And here's one of my favorite moments from jay that ill the podcast brought to you by netflix's new film my rainey's black bottom jasim gold this series. Yes yes. She wasn't assault with either meaning. She didn't say okay. I'll do whatever you say. Listen to a new episode of j. dot. Il the podcast every wednesday and check out my rainey's black bottom in select theaters now and on netflix. On december eighteenth. This film is rated r. Bryson is proud to give nurses and their families our best pricing ever on unlimited with five g included at no extra cost five g nationwide shied included on all unlimited plans five g ultra wideband included on select unlimited plans five g ultra wide band available only in parts of select cities five g nationwide available in eighteen hundred plus cities because the people we rely on deserve a network. They can rely on. That's verizon melissa fox sports radio this straight out of being with the voice of big s your host rj. Bow us bomb. the pre-game show america has always wanted murphy from the vegas strip. Here's our we have a segment here called. Yes it's taboo but is it true. And that's where i say things that are taboo but potentially true in fact i'm going to do an impromptu version of that for about a minute right now just to show you how hard core i am and then when i say what i say after that you're gonna be okay. It's not that he saw. I believe in fads. You can tell me what you think. And mattie i believe that trevor lawrence for example there should be built in maybe third of a point in the spread or maybe in their clemson odds to win the title. The fact that trevor lawrence effectively has a vaccine right. So what does the vaccine do for covert. What does the vaccine do again not to be a scientist here. But it gives you a little adjust enough of the virus or the agent that you your body reacts to it and builds up the antibodies and defenses but doesn't get you sick. That's the challenge. How do you find that right amount and again. This is very simplified. Because i don't understand it fully for sure okay but when you get it at least our scientific understanding is that you effectively are not gonna get it again or at least it seems i. We're uncertain and years the calm but certainly in the near term. Okay so the fact that trevor lawrence has had kovin means there's zero chance he's gonna get covert again. The one guy on the clemson teenage going to move the needle massively. That's not the case with ohio. Stay that's not the case with. Let's go down the list right. So shouldn't we account for that especially when you're looking over. What almost a month of games in. Which if you're if you're banned for an individual game maybe not if you're baton to win to win the title doesn't that make clemson potentially slightly more attractive. Yes we do the math if trevor. If he's worth five points five percent chance maybe to get covid. We arrive at quarter of a point. But i think it's worth more than that. Rj because now it's real easy to schedule any practice. You want any meeting. You want with trevor lawrence. Because you don't have to worry about potential exposure to the virus. And i think he could be a lot looser that way right. Yeah i mean to me. The point here is. I would contemplate that and it's taboo. Perhaps in a way celebrate that he got it because it is an advantage wrought celebrating. Were not worth noting it. But is you know taboo but true. Okay it's a good one. I think jones. I'm sure if you thought you had a little that you wouldn't be shy taken off the rubberband right and not at all exact crowd here straight out of as now when i say this i was watching a morning show and i was get up and i heard him say this well. They're mad atom. Haskins through the washington team is mad at him but they have a problem. They don't think alex smith is going to be back so they can't really do much about what so what you're saying here is any penalty for whatever you do. And this is effectively. Risking the health of your team risking the ability. Even play the game risking the she owed and jones. Craig me if i'm wrong and maybe this is a new onset. Doesn't matter back kind of thing. He does my understanding is. He's the one that organized a party in his hotel room or in a hotel room nearby him whereas he didn't go out to the club to get a hotdog he literally had the party brought to him. Yeah it the report that initially surface was well. He was at a strip club as it turns out. He wasn't at a strip club he was at a hotel room with his girlfriend and there were strippers president that he hired yes okay so he literally through the party. I mean it's to me if you if your body's going to strip club and you go. Obviously it's problematic in today's environment with the protocol but still you can understand that dude from the clippers that went for. What was he going for the hamburgers at the buffalo wings. Yeah yes that. I kinda made a little bit of sense absolutely and and at the end of the day here. It's interesting to see what washington's going to do with the fact that they sort of control their own destiny. Now in the nfc east they sermon. Right they went out. If the fact that yes yeah and with al hurt. They don't really have a viable option. What they're saying is winning and getting that playoff money is more important than disciplining are starting quarterback. That's it and it's actually not as starting quarterback in theory because this is the guy you sat down and lab flip or play understanding. He probably didn't have flipper was never going to be a cow. Allen was never going to be the washington long term quarterback so they said whatever chance haskins has of making it going to sacrifice that to quit talking to this guy effectively. We don't have to talk to the string quarterback he can sit there. You can be solved. It can be whatever they literally made that decision but now with the choices an emergency quarterback or haskins not only are they willing to talk to him and coach your mop ignore risking. The lives of your head coach. Just got off of chemotherapy. So if you ever wonder about would is the ultimate prize. What is this all about. What is the nfl. all about. It's about winning. And you know what. I don't think i've ever seen a situation. I thought a team care too much about winning. I'm usually the one that says. Hey that's fine do that do that. Oh ali you know. Like ali frazier throw manila three. They both got brain damaged. Many would say related to that. Okay i thought it was an amazing event. I wouldn't recommend they do it. But i can appreciate the the effort level right the dedication coach kevin mchale walking with a limp because he decided to play a playoff game jordan risk in his career in theory. Try to push a team to be the eighth seed so they would get crushed by the celtics. I love it all. I can't lie to me something mattering more than a day to day. Tedium of life like they said movies a lot of times worse things than dying. I'm all for that. But at some point something has to mean something. And if you're going to spend all this time talla me about protocols and how important this and the only thing is. What is the haskins downgrade from haskins to an emergency quarterback generic emergency quarterback three points so literally for a field goal. Washington is being a hypocrite beyond hypocrisy. And you know what no one on get up said this no fence them. I'm saying. I don't think i'm hearing anyone say it's all kind of get. Oh yeah we'd have to go to emergency backup. Forget that haskins is playing. Do you think of haskins were. The third stringer still cowan. Was air alex. Smith was behind him. What would they have done today. Released him probably instead. Give us an apology. Let's get to the meeting room. Jonas dawes to your point on the winning aspect. i didn't see the rams. Stop the game in the nfc title game to say you know what we that was a bad call on us. That should have been pass. Interference give it to new orleans. They knew they got away with something and they wanted to win the game. That's always the ultimate at the top the priority which if the rams would have stopped and said you know almost golf a penalty on your stuff. I think i would've well. Let's just say there's ram betters might arrive. So i want to set the last point for me. I want to said the distinction here. The distinction here isn't you're trying to gain a competitive edge. It's a someone has done. Something i mean. Let me let me ask you this. And i don't want to get too graphic here but let's say that don't even talk about haskins. Let's say player acts assaulted the daughter of someone associated with the team and not only not would we. Then say yeah. Tha that's horrible. I think he should pay the price but after the game. I don't think anyone but really different. Is it the. nfl is ask. You could say it's very different. Someone's being assaulted. But i'm hearing the covert his life threatening. You know again. I don i know. That's kind of a political issue in a way you know. Let's assume there's truth to that if you believe it or not. Isn't that pretty. Where's that fit. We can kinda say what about if he. You know a poison. The drinking water. We can always come up with all these analogies but if you're risking lives your teens life and it's so obviously wrong. It's not some shade of do they have the mask on and it strikes me that this is the time you either step up no matter if it's about winning or losing or you're a hypocrite and i know they're hypocrites but most people don't does anyone disagree with that. No no no. And it was just like you said such a flagrant violation. That that's gotta be penalized for. You would think but be sure to catch live editions of straight out of i. Guess weekdays at six pm eastern three. Pm pacific you know. Sometimes in the fall and winter well actually a lot. Of times i liked abba heineken. The heineken loggers my favorite family friends. Having a cigar. listen. I got a socially distance. I don't have to socially distance from heineken. We've all started our shopping a little early this year. So what better gift idea. Refreshing six pack of heineken lager. 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And you start to break down from me how you think about such a massive structural changes relates to the impact on different sectors from investors perspective. When you think about the investment affects of working from home the first observations. The marceca done really well but if you kind of peel back the onion there's been a vacation in terms of the losers listen to fresh invest wherever you get your podcast or checkout belly dot com slash fresh invest for more deli brokerage services. Llc member nyse as ipc so rj the pittsburgh steelers your pittsburgh steelers find themselves losers of three consecutive games. There are people that are jumping off the bandwagon and out. Pittsburgh finds themselves at home and a one and a half point underdog against the indianapolis colts sunday. Total reevaluation of pittsburgh off this insincerity game. I think it's just a find the total reevaluation and it's been a four point. Move from the line before the monday. Night game pittsburgh plays and now it's like oh pittsburgh's not any good and now steelers one and a half point home underdogs against coach team coach playing pretty well. I love love love. One of my favorite picks of the season over the total and his game. Will you see in fast. Forty four and a half. I say oh. Check that i misspoke. I love love love. Love love love under in this game. Four and there are couple of forty five. That's what i'm thinking forty five now. Here's why i liked the under some of it's obvious and some of it isn't what's obvious is pittsburgh's offense is struggling and us. We can downgrade pittsburgh but we're really not effectively downgrading. The steelers defense. They've paid very against. Cynthia wasn't bad. It's the offense. Now here's the question. Is it fixable big. Ben's arm get stronger able to go down field now. Is the offensive line younger. Now is the running backs going. Get more spry. No so it doesn't feel fixable. Does anyone think that they could try to do this. We could all give them advice but has anyone here. Think there's a clear path steelers fixing this offense. Because if they were why haven't they done it not gonna happen but i think you got a super intelligent coats team so what i mean intelligent you. Frank ranks one of the best coaches. He hires smart coaches. And what you know is. The smart coaches ballot. Check at the forefront if you're limited they're going to exploit that coaches are so oblivious it seems a team's going to only do like only throw to the left but they're gonna keep after guys over to the right and it's like you know it's an extreme example but bella checks not gonna let you not be multiple and frank reich in that top tier. He's got a smart team he also has really good linebackers. Really good on the coach. So here's the question. How do you neutralize a great linebacker play action. You make him afraid. Go over the top over the top of you. so now. you're pine the run in the past pittsburgh's not going over the top. Pittsburgh doesn't play action so very much. I think they're like one of the bottom five in the league. Ben doesn't like to turn back to the defenses. That theory okay. So that seems like it's not only bad steelers offense but it's a bad match up for that steelers offense now. What do we know about mr philip rivers. What we know is he's great if it can set his feet he's not great if there's pressure on them well pittsburgh even without devin bush. Even you know with all their losses they still get a lot of pressure on the other team. I think this is a problem for the colts. So you added up you got. This line is fair. generally but there's a match up aj against the offense on both sides where you guys think i like it. I'm thinking back to cincinnati game that went over against pittsburgh. There are forty four points scored but like you mentioned there was no offense in that game both was two hundred and forty yar or cincinnati at two hundred and forty wasn't yeah in pittsburgh comparable amount so you get under five hundred yards of total offense. There's no way you should get forty points in an nfl game so because that game had forty four points. I think we're getting a little bit of a higher total as a reaction to that. Be sure to catch. Live editions of straight outta vegas weekdays at six pm eastern three. Pm pacific on fox sports radio in the iheartradio app. This is brought to you by leeann. Are you looking for ways to make the world a little less tilted checkout tilted. A podcast join leinen. Ceo rachel thomas as she explores topics the intersection of gender and culture and brings you conversations with bad house women activists you'll admire and incredible thought leaders pushing for change. 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I'll just got get nervous about to turnover prone quarterbacks here and the problem is pittsburg can't run the football right now at all. So that mean big. Ben has to throw a lot and he's not accurate. Can't throw the football downfield or able to stack the linebackers and that zone which leads to more interceptions. Interceptions lead to short fields. They also lead to defensive scores so let's agree to that. But in general there's a correlation between how good the offense is or how bad they are and chance of turning it over right is in the old days there used to be offenses that were bad and conservative. Now they don't really have those if you're bad means you're thrown in your bad rowing in bad. Yes i think that's exemplified pittsburgh's they can't run the ball right now. Especially with james conner out. I agree. I also think though with a total of forty five and forty five out there. You're only three points below the nfl average right now. We're what are we in forty and a half or so so to me. It's not like we got a total of thirty nine and it just takes one pick six and we're so usually when you got to really bad offense is your war. I must in the culture about often. You worried about the pick six. And maybe you do this. You ever put ten percent of your bat navy sprinkle on a interception return. What is specialty. Special teams are defensive touchdowns plus two fifty kind of like it's not a great bat. Generally yes but actually. In this case i would make the case. That's probably is a good bet. Because you got to quarterbacks that can't tackle the lick they do throw an interception so it's more likely interceptions. Become pick sixes. I've never heard anyone talk about the quarterbacks ability to tackle a handy rivers got hurdled by vat thompson. tackle stephen measure that. I think we can to talk about once. His hand was dropping down the pit in how he was reached out to grab someone's leg so let's say this i can agree. Are i almost would take one pick sakes but not more than one. I think we got a good bad here. Jones from the fan's perspective. I like it and to your point. And i don't know how i know this statistic because i was looking it up last week but this is actually the longest. Philip rivers has gone without a turnover in three years. The last time he went three consecutive games without eternal was twenty. Seventeen so it feels like he's do it feels like there's a turnover. Do pittsburgh is inapt you offense which tend to be lately. You gotta figure frank greg smart enough to say. Let's play a low variance game right now. Jonathan taylor is running very well. So he'll probably get a lot of carries in this game with limited success lines forty two. I don't like i mean this is to me. The line should be forty two and a half forty five. That's your value. That's what we're fighting for last thing. We're straight out of vegas fans. I send you an email on this. There are a lot of good. Afc teams and one of them isn't even going to make the playoffs. So if you kind of run down the list you've got tennessee. You got this coach team. Pittsburgh's kansas city's in bills are in. You've got miami and then you've got who am. I miss cleveland and baltimore. One of those teams isn't may correct. Could win eleven and miss. I mean i'd be like the year the patriots day when brady was out. Eleven and five with castle ballot jackson genius. Okay pittsburgh on a neutral field is favourite against which of those stamps. Only one miami dolphins. Wow so what do you think the line is. Miami pittsburgh neutral midas one and this is all my i gotta say lines expert minus one minus one. Wow go ahead. i don't even know about that. Pittsburgh's only favored exactly. Because miami skill position players are still injured. Devante had their normal players. They still pittsburgh won't be favored over miami. That's right. I mean guys. It was just what fourteen days ago or a little bit more that that pittsburgh was still favoured over buffalo that look at line stunning out. Game was pittsburgh favored at buffalo and like to seventeen days later. There's no team. Hardly they would be favored over. That's gonna make the playoffs. In fact miami's probably the most likely team not to make the playoffs. Which if that's the case pittsburgh would be underdogs on a neutral against every afc playoff team crazy. Wow and their home underdogs this week. So we don't have to speculate their home. Underdogs this week to the indianapolis colts we can do some quick housekeeping here with our batting. I'm rj. both straight outta vegas. So matt you have a sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet portfolio of bills bats against faz yes. Give us the details quickly. I have two hundred dollars. Add thirty two one with his on the win. The super bowl. Let me do the math. Here that's six million dollars. That's all wearing ninety six. And that's i have several other bets buffalo flow bills ranging from as small as twenty. Do as high as one hundred at either thirty to fifty to one odds okay. So here's the you've been a supporter. I mean to the point that we almost ridiculed you over at various points the defense back it strikes me. I'm seeing a lot of power ratings in the media. Bill second best team in the nfl. I think they could be right now. How you can not good current odds and the bills are eleven to one so huge over. Let's be on is those odds are going to be. The odds are better than wouldn't let me think they're all slightly worse than that because of the vague but okay what do you think. The true odds are like at would point if you would point. You think it wouldn't be a good but forget you got any bills action right now. Matt is if you didn't where do you think the value starts is eleven to one. You think value i do actually especially if they can pass pittsburgh. Secure that number two fs as of today. You think it's it's borderline value. Where do you think. I think you need fourteen to one okay with going as poorly as it looks like. It's going for fez. Is he tried to work. Mattie into some other bets in other places to try and recoup maybe some of the loss elsewhere see. That's the thing usually we'll try to exploit naievety ignorance of the other person but this is the guy that book billions of dollars and bring in the big guns here. I don't think you're gonna get. Let's just say this. there's one way to get mattie. It's his ego involved. You gotta know how to do it. I do personally. I do otherwise. He's almost bulletproof. Would you agree with that. Yeah i'm not messing with this one. What what. I really like about the position in this one is. This is the only futures but we made before. The season in fez was so down on josh josh allen inaccurate and let's be honest. Everyone was meaning. You might have been in a minority position. But i'm hearing people say jones probably here's to. I've never seen a quarterback get accurate this in his light. There's people were saying they've never seen this before. It didn't have to do with the weapons around him. Boy they gave him some weapons to play with. You know it's funny mackenzie through this up. The completion percentage for josh allen. Going back to two thousand and eleven. Jv high he was fifty nine percent varsity high school. He was fifty and the next year. Fifty seven really community college. Which i didn't even know he went there. Forty nine percent so the guy in two thousand fourteen. Did you know this does. And that's what's been so amazing. That's why the bills deserves so much credit for just building around him and actually developing him because everybody saw him as a project they saw him as somebody that may be one day. He's got all the tools. Oh be something. He started from day one and he's gotten better every year since think about this. Six years goes not that long ago really community college and he completely less than half his passes and if someone would have pointed that guy say oh yeah he might be the second best quarterback in the nfl on twenty twenty insane phase. You didn't even know about that. Really kennedy colin not at all playing against how the heck did he upgrade to wyoming given those stats. And i don't know. I guess when you have that big arm. Oh my gosh. So last dot on this so six six thousand nine six pounds but you we former participant in the show local radio guy steve cowfield. He bet a couple things with you. What was it tiger. Woods right where you gave him like these jumbo tigers ten to one he fetches make a twenty one like that and coalfields a small bamboo. Bet like fifty bucks had to come in. We were doing the weekend shift like right before jones at the time and it was like on his weekend show and it was like steve coffee. Go here's your fifty tens. That were like. I got it from his first communion and you just kept pocketing. Those mike. you figured this is nice to be a book. These big longshots never never ever pay off is what you were think. Yeah had tiger woods multiple times and he like he would get second or something and you just laugh and take it and you document. No golfer played better than tiger woods during the stretch without winning a major so collectively though you only made like one hundred fifty bucks from do you think that influence your willingness to give him thirty two one. Yes because i keep banking the winds. I got sloppy and also took advantage of mackenzie and alive. Bet during the show's while tuneup. That's just an example of how if he gets down he's gonna fight ensured. His way allergists say they fox. Sports radio has the best sports. 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Episode 16 Interview with Author/Poet Robert Gonzalez

Art Talk

25:08 min | Last month

Episode 16 Interview with Author/Poet Robert Gonzalez

"Oh thank you for joining us again. And for your continued support of our talk podcast today. We have an author name. Robert gonzales for florida before we get started. We're going to hear a quick sponsor and spent. Please don't go anywhere. We will be right back If you haven't heard about anchor it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain. it's free. There are creation tools that allow you to record. And edit your podcast right from your phone or computer anchor will distribute podcast for you so it can be heard on spotify apple podcast and many more you can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. Everything you need to make a podcast in one place. Download the free anchor app or go to anchor dot. Fm to get started Welcome to art talk. I'm your host and women. And i'm here with my co host erin has great thank you. Good I was like you're upbeat. So what what. What have you been kind of been djing. binge watching stuff on netflix. Really yet live stuff of yours. Well i've been watching. This show called richardson. It was suggested to me by a couple of my friends. And so i i don't usually like period pieces but this is actually pretty cool story about a a an. It's a story about a black queen was known as the invisible queen and it's really fascinating because find out all these all this cool information about this amazing woman and all the stuff that goes on around in the romance and the ladies in waiting all of the rituals that they have had during that time. Let's cool yes pretty cool and it's And the the characters are absolutely gorgeous characters so this is on where do you watch net flicks alka course with everything else all right. So you're watching on netflix. So that's your tv review for today. S that is the end. Some coffee ice cream of course So in my case. I am mentioned it for because obviously Muslim friends and you know my history. The screen actors guild and acting and teaching acting and all that kind of stuff. So i like. I like reviewing films more than tv shows. Although i've talked in the past there used to be good shows on. Tv like fringe and x. Files on all these shows and today's show seeing really kind of empty compared to those shows and they seem shallow or or whatever. Well that's why won't watch anything. Unless it has substance to a critic wellings pretty good. I watched a movie called monari in. It's a film that i thought was going to be all Subtitles it turned out. It was not all subtitles. If you haven't seen it yet definitely watch it. Because it's really well. Made in the sort of crescendo of the film really gets you in all that emotionally and all that kind of stuff so took it fill and then i also wonder woman eighty four. Which is the movie with wonder woman. Wow and it was horrible really i. I'm a big huge fan of all the marvel movies. I've seen while more than once. I watched this movie. And i was like falling asleep literally. I was like oh man to pay off. I didn't care about the story. The character development and they also political messages in there. Which eight with tv shows do that so they were trying to They were trying to. It was like an empowering women thing which i totally am okay with go ahead and empower women obviously I'm sitting here with aaron. And i've been an advocate of hers for years about how her treatment in the film industry and all that but So i'm fine with empowering women. But i didn't want to watch a movie about you know and it's kind of like oratorio or a movie that just puts the slant too much in one direction rather than having a balance. Is that what you're saying. Remember we talked about Some of the new show. So there's a tv show called supergirl and in in in this tv show called supergirl. Everybody in this cast is diverse. And it's always been diverse in the entire show and they've never made any role comments about how diversity is an all of a sudden out of the blue at an episode where one of the main characters was You know the police found him in an alley or something in the scene and they point their guns at him and they start talking to assert win all of a sudden. It's about him being black and they're treating him a certain way because he's black going well. Obviously that's a message that people want to send out there in the world but to take a story and stick it in the middle of his story where it's completely out of place just to send a social messages and link. I think those kind of push. I think it does a disservice to being writing a story. I'd love to hear other people's opinions about this but I think there's a right way and a wrong way to do that. I think they sometimes go. Let's stick this idea of this storm where it doesn't go because we want to make a change in society or some thing like that so But anyway getting back to my movie reviews. Definitely watch minority. It was worth. It wonder woman eighty four. I gave it a d. Plus so i gave him an orient a plus a horse by the way you know everybody used to call me. Linda carter and people will tell you. She looked like linda carter. The original wonder woman slow so she used to get that a lot. But i don't want to spend all our time because we have a guest today We have a guest named robert and robert in robert is a poet. Author actually wrote a book of poetry which looks like it's available on amazon so the title of the book is eagle claws for freedom 'cause and a collection of american poems on draining the swamp hint mask not required so obviously that title kind of implies a few things politically a little bit but the show is not political. It's more about creativity but again anybody. And everybody's welcome on the show. And i am personally an independent voter so i don't get too much into politics. I sit back and watch both sides. Fight it out. That's my my approach but Anyway we should have bob on the line with you with us. They're above i'm here. Hi dan hi erin how you doing. I'm fine thanks. Some over here in florida enjoying cool april day for change nine. Ice april's my birthday month. So so i. I get cake in april so So i think so. Aaron showing our technical stuff folks so In your influence what. What part of. Florida is the northern southern southern part. I'm down enables right now is it. Is it real humid right there. Most of the time it is today's not too bad But most of the time he has you know on the outskirts of the everglades. So it's pretty humid down here. So are you guys having I know this is off topic. But are you guys having any wildlife issues out there like an overabundance of Alligators or anything. Or what's going on. Yeah it was a time when the alligators almost extinct. But then they. They stopped hunting them another overpopulated and then also didn't some people bring in some snakes like the amazon or something and you've got i think they did. Yeah i heard something like that. Yeah i don't know what saddens you walk out your front door. There's a fifty foot anaconda. That won't be good but so so A again. Do you want to go by bob or robert low by robert just so people get more familiar with that. Okay and once again Roberts a book can be found on amazon of so robert and also. Do you have a website associated with this or just. Is it just amazon. I have a website under construction. It's not quite ready at Should be ready in the next week or so. Okay what you can do is When it's ready you can send me a link to it. I have a a website dedicated to this. Podcast called artwork. Podcasts dot com. And what i'll do is put your linked to your new website on there and then we can also put it on our uh comment section in the in the podcast like apple in those places so people can see it that way all right that sounds yes so so my first question is in relation to writing or creating poetry or anything for that matter. What's your earliest memory of creating something that where it really had an impact on you as a result of what you did well. I've always enjoyed riding. In one of my earliest memories was in grade school. I wrote a paper. And i guess the teacher asked us to be creative so the first thing i said was my life started when i was born. The teacher wrote me back Her comment was most lives. Do you know it's funny. It's funny our last guest. And i talked about what we did as kids in in creative ways and now you said your version and it's interesting how similar all of us are with the with the creative brains but you know okay this funny because that's actually something i've said in the past so so i said i was born and then i had relapsed about. I don't know how old you are. But i'm a product fifty s. You know. I was born in the late fifties and so We used to watch all these old war movies on tv. In those days. John wayne was the hero. And and you're watching a lot of world war films and all that kind of thing and there was well. No i still watch hogan's heroes to this day. There you go there you go. That was a hilarious show Colonel klink and all that stuff Yeah so So anyway i was. I was a kid and watching. This movie called bridge over the river. Kwai which is a famous film. If if anybody hasn't seen it just for historical purposes go back and watch the bridge over the river. Quiet very well made film but my last name is so they also asked us to write a creative paper in school. And i was a little kid we had to get up and read it in front of the whole class and so i made up a story about the bridge over the river twice because my last thing was wyman and And how you couldn't get past toll guy on the bridge over the river twice and all this stuff and the teacher was laughing hysterically because it was a little kid. And i just made this thing up and almost died of a heart attack reading in front of all the kids but i got so nervous but But so you so you start at an early age and then and then did you do a lot of writing when you're younger. I've always enjoyed writing. I had a college professor. Tell me one time. I wrote really well i was. I wrote a paper about the civil war and and he really enjoyed it and he pulled me aside and he told me that. I've never taken it really seriously though until this came out of the blue this particular project i Got interested in this campaign that This person The anna lorraine was running in san francisco. And i wrote a couple of poems about it and she liked them so i wrote a couple more than i said. You know what. I have a couple of poems here. Maybe i should just turn these things into a little book. It's kind of like a diary and that's how it came about a really well. That's a good inspiration for because i'll tell you that's the thing that all of his face is we have you know i can't tell you i'm many people have said to me. You need to write a book. Your tell him stories about my past in texas and they start telling me you should really write a book about that you know. His are so much crazy stuff that went on but But you actually did it. You put it together published it and so did you publish it yourself or did you have a publishing company do it or a publishing company. Did it actually risk dot com. If you wanna go there the book bailable there that's That's x. I l. i. R. s. dot com is called x. Libra dot com and the book Eagle claws freedoms. And so then. So then you you. Did you do more writing after you know you mentioned as you start getting older. Whatever did you continue writing or were you writing poetry or did were you doing other creative things. I this came out of nowhere really. I just started writing these poems. And after i had a few of them i just continued turned into this book. And now that. I've done this. I think i want to continue on. Maybe right some other things. I usually like to write about the outdoors sports more than politics. Oh allah what's your. What's your favorite sport to write about Well i love to deep sea fish down here in florida. We do a lot of fishing. And it's my passion really i it. I could do that every single day. You and my youn- might one of my uncles. I have an uncle that He hasn't done it in a while but whenever we used to see him he would he would walk up to me and say. Do you like swordfish. I go fishing go here. And he handed me the huge ice chests with about hundred how much money that would have been worth like fifteen hundred dollars worth of swordfish or something. So he he was up deep sea fishing but so and then Did you ever do any other kind of art type. Things like painting drawing or any of that kind of thing not really not really been more sports inclined than than artistically inclined sports. Did you play baseball. I played college. Baseball and i played basketball in high school. I'd always say i was a point. Guard okay say what are you like. Five seven five Yeah i i grew up watching boxing. You know my dad was one of those old. My dad was one of those old-fashioned guys. You know christmas. You're located to get boxing gloves. And then you're like. Oh he's the one that's going to be teaching association but But that's interesting. So did you do writing about this sorts have you. Is that what you're saying he you've done. Yeah i i've articles about sports like world series games and things like that I'm not too much younger than you. Dan i was born in sixty three. Now okay okay. Yes i remember. The ali frazier fights and all that stuff. Oh yeah that was. That was every see this. Is you telling young people that they don't understand that. When i was a kid we had. Abc nbc and cbs. And we had yeah. We had three stations and public broadcasting. So when you watched mohammed ali. Cassius clay when i first started watching him. His name was cassius. Clay everybody else watching it. You know because there was just so you go to school the next day. And everybody's talking about the fight everybody's talking about like they would show the wizard of oz one time a year. If you missed it you had to wait a whole year to see it again. We asked one. Tv station so everybody school the next day did you see the way around you and So very different time back then but So this this current Let me see. I'm going on time so this current book that you published checking my timer here okay. You run out of time but Can you a how many poems are in this in the in the book eagle. Close this twenty four poems. Some of them shorter than others I think i tried to keep it humorous light. I just thought it was an important time to write on this topic being with all the changes that we're going through right now in america and around the world really Do you have the bath sitting right there with you. Yeah well we don't want to give it away for free. But i think a teaser would be goods. You have a you have a favorite you could share with us cheryl allah this. I'll the the first one in the book is called the end of the florida. Okay and Okay let me get All right this one says here. Let me tell you about the girl who actually. She's from california. So let me let me tell you about the girls who came by california way who goes by the name of the anna relocation. The florida is like a gift of heavenly sent mana. The sound of her laughter is wonder sleet intoxicating. It's time to do some celebrating. Don't ask her to wear a mask if you want your good health to last delta wants to ban her from flight she told them instead they go fly a kite she you. She gives it to the left honest straight. It's this candour that they hate or smiles shine so bright it could only come for a lady from milady. Who's right so here's to a warm welcome to the hurricane the anna lorraine florida will never ever be this interesting. Your your style of poetry though doesn't sound like someone who's and i don't wanna say you're new to it but you were saying you you. This is your first published book. But the i've heard a lot of poetry in my lifetime and there's there's usually the people that are sort of getting into poetry. There's a certain sound to their poetry. That's very a basic but it's It's i call it obvious sort of poetry you know but then there's another style it's more advanced where it's not necessarily rhyming every word but it's a it's a tone and say it. It's it's like. I'm like it's like the words complement each other. In a way. You know what i mean. So had arisen did you. Did you do a lot of studying or did you sit down and say i'm going to just start writing poetry in all. Some of them came quickly right away when i sat down instead. You know i'm just gonna write a poem and they came right away other ones i had to work at. I ride a while. And then i'd step away from then. All of a sudden the word would come to me and it was. That's such a good feeling. It feels like oh. Wow you know. This is like a lightbulb. Dan you know right on well this spring on you say water seeks its own level so if someone writes poetry. He'll tell them you've always been a poet you know because It's it's just are all in you there. You know so. Well listen. So it's it's Robert gonzalez eagle claws for freedom. 'cause collection of american poems on draining the swamp hint mask not required and it's available at amazon dot com and then there's a whole bunch of Letters words after that so. I think it'd be easier for you to just go to amazon and look for the title i would. I would give a link but the link is too long and this is available in the. Us only is it. Nice with amazon. They can order anywhere regardless anywhere. Yeah just the show is We have we've had audience so far ninety five countries according to my stat so Were being heard all over the place. Well listen Question yeah. I just i had a question for you So what What's coming up for you. Do you have anything on the horizon. Something that you're going to be doing in the near future or what are you. I'm thinking about the next that i write might be about some hunting and fishing stories. Okay yeah in fact. Can i give one more teaser. Since we were talking about fishing. Sure i was going to tell you that. I was gonna tell you that some of the best laughter and i i was much younger and my brother still does it. I haven't done it in years but you go out and sit in a hunting blind and you're with a there's other guys out there whatever. And they're drinking all day. Oh after my brothers don't goes out and does that. You know big big game or whatever but the but go ahead you were going to share another one. Yeah recently I don't know if you knew. But congress passed the bill with all kinds of pork in it and they allowed one point five million dollars To study the amount of amber jax that there are in the gulf of mexico also in the back of the book at. There's a picture of me on a boat with an amber. Jack that i caught. Oh no it was one hundred and ten pounds you just reminded me of johnny carson because johnny carson used to find out or have his staff find out what the government was wasting money on so when we were kids johnny carson would say he would have a segment where he would sit down. They just have like five examples. He'd say today your tax dollars in the amount of and this is back then so it was. Let's say it was ninety. Five thousand six hundred dollars or whatever they spend on it he said today your tax dollars were spent on finding finding out why children fall off of tricycles and the audience would be like then you keep going and the most ridiculous things but the government always figured out a way to to say. Here's a way we can get one hundred or two hundred or five hundred grand or whatever will say we're gonna use it for this then they'll go or something else you know but Yeah he used to do that all the time on his show. You call with your phone. No he was sharing a gonna save about sharing an ember. Amtrak ember jack. Yeah yeah he was serious story but anyway we're out of time anyway because again i gotta keep i gotta keep these harder edited longer. No so cool. I learn of poetry. I taw i dig it. I love i like to Right why don't we do this. When you release future books are poems or anything Just let us know. And we'll just have you back on and thinking about doing a an episode with multiple poets on one episode way. I'd love to do that. That would be fun. What good well We're going to wrap it up so Robert do you have any final words for us. Well everybody have a happy easter. And hopefully you'll enjoy the book and We'll talk again soon. I should have said happy served to start today. Today is easter again. This is a recorded program. If you're listening to a we're doing this on easter but erin final words well I saw this anything the edited out. I'll try not to. All i know is what popping through my mind for easter is Somebody sent like a mean to me a picture of two bunny rabbits or chocolate one truck aerobics chocolate rabbit. Also and one of the rabbits. has no tail and it says how his ask bit off chocolate chocolate. Why he says my butt hurts and the other one is years have been eaten. His chocolate years were eaten. And it says what good that's nicer that really brings a spirit of eastern thought. I told her. I saw like five years ago right timeless. Maybe we gotta wrap it up. Okay so you again robert and we'll do this again in the future and For all your listeners. Out there go to artwork. Podcast dot com. Fill out the form if you want to be on the show and we'll be happy to interview and until next time we will see you later

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Entertainment News 03/15/21

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Entertainment News 03/15/21

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03/11/2021 - Hour 3 - LeBron and KD vs Magic and Bird + ESPN analyst Mark Kriegel

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03/11/2021 - Hour 3 - LeBron and KD vs Magic and Bird + ESPN analyst Mark Kriegel

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I got a surprise for you guys at the bottom of the hour. And you know rob i was. They had this ali frazier special on yesterday or day. We shield device. Oh hey right egg. They re showed not only the first ali phrase all night. I believe seventy one at least the first two. I thought i think i saw three cap it up. Wow yeah so. Mark kriegel. Great boxing writer. You know we both. I didn't work with him. I don't know if you've ever worked with mark. And i worked together at the daily news. Absolutely yup he was back then. When i first started mark was an a new side and then he moved over to sports but mark was it was a good news values or great collarless ride i. I thought he was a really good columnists. Like i really. So he. Now you see him on. Espn talking about boxing. And all that so he will join us at the bottom of this hour to talk about you. Know ali frazier and whatever else we want to get to him in the sweet science but for now let's go to the nba. And it's a fun topic here. Quinn cook the guard. Who's you know with the lakers. And golden state at one point. He put out a tweet yesterday. Rob that just really got a lot of attention. A lot of buzz. I went viral and everybody was discussing it on twitter. And what he did was he throughout the question. I don't even know what sparked it maybe rob. Gee if you know you can hop in. But i don't know if this was just he thought of or what. But he's saying in a game of two onto who would win between these two teams larry bird and magic johnson against kevin durant and lebron james and he added. You know who. I'm with obviously teammates with lebron. so he He he's going with lebron k. d. Here's my thoughts on it. Rob historically magic and bird are the greater duo. They're retire now. You and i both have. Lebron james is the second best player in the world behind michael jordan. Wherever second best player ever. I've got magic around four. I've got him for on my list behind. Kareem three and i've got bird and i think most people do anywhere from six to ten ten six to ten or eleven range. I would think top ten by. Yeah yeah six to ten years And i've got durant around fourteen fifteen at this point something like that you know. Maybe you'll get higher. We'll see but right now. That's about where i got him. So historically i think the bird. Magic duo is bigger than lebron than lebron katie. And if it were a game of five on five rob where if you've got say to. You got these two players on each team and then you give them three role players of similar ability right. I think i would lean toward taking magic and birds team because those two were tremendous passes great as a pathway. Lebron is magic. Obviously was a better passer. Man was he was mad. He's the best pal. There's no doubt about it. And i think you i think was at least as good of a passers lebron. If not better. He didn't run the point but he was a tremendous pass. And so those to excel in the five or five game rob. The whole thing was division right. The court vision fast-breaking. Borough was pushing the ball up with the pass and things like that and they definitely made their teammates better. We know lebron. Does that too. But birds took boston. You remembered his rob the year before he got there. They won twenty nine games now. They they were cowan's tiny archibald but they were older. They weren't in their primes and he took a sixty one or sixty two wins his rookie year now. They didn't win the championship but they had a great regular season. I think beating the second round by philadelphia but anyway if five or five probably go with magic bird but in a game of two on two rob i'm looking at. I'm going with lebron k. D. and i say that without hesitation because i think and there's two reasons mainly the defense and the athleticism lebron was a great individual defender durant good individual defender magic and bird. Were very good team defenders and they were smart they had you know obviously great instincts so they got a lot of steals. But i don't know which one it is staying in front of the brown. I don't think anyone mistaken. And lebron. So i think he's living at the rim and obviously you got durant. Who's just unstoppable. I'm not saying lebron and katie would stop magic and bird but i think they could make it tougher or magic and bird. Then those two can make it on lebron and k. d. and so that's why i go with lebron acadian. Yeah i mean. I just think you know as players develop you always think all the players who play now a better than the other players who play babe ruth could never play today or gale sayers or whoever. You wanted to say chris. Well i'm just saying like like you would say right. Let me see. Who am i picking. Aaron judge or bay ruth like look at them and go. I'm taking aaron judge. He looks like a greek god. So so i'd get that from from the way that players have evolved and gotten better and healthier and and all the other stuff that comes with it. I don't know i. It's hard for me to just poo poo bird and magic and their abilities and and knowing how to win. I don't know other out there. Free throws in this game. You know what is interesting free. Throws i'm not taking lebron's team. Okay right tell me no. You're right and skip brought that up. Today they talked about it and he said that if there's free throws but hold on how many warno ever say right so no there's no okay all right because because that would make to be used because it would be showing the other three. Were all tremendous though shooters right. That's what i'm saying and daycare and lebron is by far the weakest link when it comes to free throws with that group. So yeah i mean just physicality and where they are and bird look like shorts were too small. He didn't have watched back then. Everybody was wearing hot pants. A the pistons probably had the ultimate hot pants. Dennis rodman do you remember it. Obscene of uh. Dennis rodman endow with with he on stuff that alice would wear to the beach. Think that's looks seen now right honestly like i'm not even playing like it. Looks obscene when you look at people who haven't seen in high school and college. I mean you look at them now and you go what. What were we thinking more. We cheat on the material. We didn't have enough material because we went from that to the fab five with the baggy shorts eight sizes too. Big right right right. Well remember and i. it's interesting. I don't know if it's slow down but remember a couple years ago like last year year before it c- you saw college. Kids wear short shorts right. No they went back to it. No doubt about it now. And i think they're still getting shorter but it doesn't seem to be taking off. You know like like. I thought okay. This is just you know. Fashioned repeats itself. And i thought that was going to be the case. It hasn't gotten to that point. We'll see if it does. I saw i went to a graduation. This was almost two years now. One of my students at usc graduated. And i went to buy a party that they had and chris. You're right air for the kids. Not no less miles audio though. Just say though all the guys were going through with the day to whatever but all the guys had on the same kind of outfit and you know what i'm talking about the really tight pants of their ankles with no socks right with the shoes. You know what. I'm talking about right so the kids so that that goes into the style of what you're talking about where people are wearing the college kids the shortest shorts the tighter pants the ankles like you would never chris have your pants above your ankles. You know what i mean. But that's the style right now. Now i mean look shan. You've seen shannon on riot. He wears those. And i gotta be honest. I had a few of my suits cut cut that way to recently. So you know if. I ever wear the bottoms again. You know maybe you mean. You're on with no bottoms on. You got nothing on underneath. Knock but to get back to the topic. Rob here's another question for you throughout the free throws how would you call the game. Would it be really physical like in the eighties and nine hundred. It would have to be. Because if i i think that they would rather the game be that rather than just letting durant and lebron. You couldn't touch them defensively. I don't. I don't know how does shop them you know right. You have no shot right. So that's something and you know we talk about it. The superstars of any error. I think you'd date adjust the rant. Lebron play back in their era. They would have been great. They would have adjusted and bird. Magic in this era would have adjusted and been great as well but you can think that the physicality. I don't think it bothered lebron. 'cause obviously he's you know huge and i think he's the strongest of all those guys those four guys but durant you could see. They're gonna let bird. Because i'm assuming this magic against lebron bird against durant if they're going to let bird hole durant and hand check men grabbing then that you know that would help bird. Try to try to stop him. You know and maybe maybe that messes with durant game a little bit. But i i just think rob and this is not even 'cause you know i'm not one i. I think today's players are more athletic. They never i think that's obvious. They shoot it better than ever especially from deep primarily from deep and they handle the basketball better than ever somewhat they they give you a lot leeway as far as carrying it and things like that but they handle the ball better but those guys back in the day played five-man basketball and the whole team was incorporated. They moved without the ball a lot more even the stars and so i think that's an advantage that somebody older teams or players would have over. Today's guys you know our high pick and roll or driving kick. That's that's not five-man basketball you know. And so a lotta guys today. Don't know how to move out the ball. you know. Throw inch post entry passes and things like that. So i'm not on that bandwagon of oh these players are better to know but i do think lebron and durant would take take out birdie magic into onto and i think at five on five. I probably go with magic and bird. That probably makes sense if you just be looking at it from where we are today in the rules or whatever it would definitely to me benefit. Those guys are just bigger and stronger. That's it and more and you know even magic magic when the most athletic right and it was bird. I mean so you could barely put a dollar bill under our larry. Bird's sneaker what he jumps one so right. That's the truth all right so let's throw it out do you guys eight seven seven nine hundred nine on. This is a fun one. Eight seven seven nine nine hundred sixty three sixty nine. Who would win in. A mythical game of two on two la. Brian and kevin durant or magic johnson. And larry bird. We will continue. The conversation with you. Next is chris robbed the couple of fox radio. Be sure to catch. Live editions of the odd couple with chris russo. Then rob parker weekdays at seven pm eastern four. Pm pacific on fox sports radio and the iheartradio app. Hey this is jason mcintyre. Join me every weekday morning on my podcast straight. Fire with jason mcintyre. This isn't your typical sports pod pushing the same tired narratives down your throat. Every day straight fire gives you honest opinions on all the biggest sports headlines accurate stats to help you win big at the sports book and all the best guests. 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Do you think you and you know the better players from your era. Maybe even your high school team could compete with today's high school players. Like your high school team in your year. Could they play with the high school team at your school now. Why there's so much better now. Yeah because the games spit out the way yo compared to a high awards when they will play. But it's too onto. It ain't no full court. I mean it's two on two basketball. Did not do a move fast. I read it. They got they got way quicker new saying that they did can't compete. I mean. I don't believe that i'm sorry. Well here's the thing to notice. Rob larry bird was always and to be honest. Well let me. Just keep them bird right now. Larry bird was always at an athletic disadvantage wrong route. No he's facing dominique wilkins. Dr j. wildlife have athletes back then now. A always was the slowest guy but yeah he was able to get his and magic had a height advantage but magic was going quicker guys so i'm waiting on that. They would win but to just say that they right like like they couldn't get on the court like like. What are you guys won't get it. 'cause you're looking at them differently chris. You know what i mean. It's hard not to look at the is saying broaden. Those guys are in their prime or lebron older. But you know what i mean. And that's what you remember when you look at larry bird and those guys they're old. I mean i'm sorry you can't my right. You look at magic johnson. That's what you think of not looking at the bodies. But here's the thing robin we've said we're seeing it now even with a staff. Let's let's keep it real if you didn't know if you look did james harden you had no idea whether he could play basketball or not but you just looked at his body or i don't want him on my team right think that could ball no doubt as a perfect example c. Show us about skills and bird and magic had plenty of schools. Yup andre in massachusetts on the couple of fox sports radio. What's up andre. Going on guys. Thanks for taking the call Plenty of skills that just the tip but iceberg magic. Johnson larry bird then to get the w. over lebron and k b. Everybody did start putting some respect on french. Lick indiana first of all everything. He's comparisons. that happened. Between luke and larry legend. I like it okay. Well lupu carrying around a couple more. Lbj's larry legend wasn't as prime. Let's forget chris you notice. Well nineteen eighty-one larry. Bird leaves the boston celtics to an nba championship. Eighty four to eighty six. The only person went three straight. Mvp larry legend put some respect in that man's name and furthermore we talked about lebron court vision. Who did he get that from. Magic johnson magic johnson would if we had the say medicine. We had today magic johnson. What he got himself on the championship. Mark that down in the book. He had gas left in the tank when he left the game. People i understand in the modern world but we need some respect for our great larry legend. Kevin durant doesn't want it. He would get buckets all day and and magic. We'll be facilitating him. They're going to get the w. respect to lebron k. d. Okay but this is combo. They don't want they don't want any parts of things dray rodr love him man. I'm not going out but it was nice love. But i think i think his point is well taken. The older guys like that like don't act like they couldn't play in their day. They were as good as he gets. That's all and i think that's what andrea was really fired up about mark in virginia. You're on the fox. Sports rare was mark. Hi guys haven't talked. You know. I'll hope you're doing well again. Yeah couple of quick things here before you shut me down Number one who decides that they don't have free throws in this magical world come on you play twenty one twenty one right talking about twenty one now but twenty one one on one you get the ball out gets the ball out. You throws you determine magic and bird. Yeah the bottom line. If you play the straight up twenty-one one cape ball which means you do you you hit the shots you the ball and you have to for the first shot and pre three throws you can't just remove for he throws come on but anyway to the higher the matter just remove those and go with a man. That's never gotten respect. Pistol pete marriage and accumulate on. Have a good evening guys. All right margot over spec pistol pete man. He was a hell ocado. Nba player play for the believe it or not the new orleans jazz. In those days the app he was an makes more sense that that. That's the name of the tea while the jazz not so city. You don't lake city utah jazz. Which makes no sense. Doing no lakes in los angeles right lakers absolutely you couldn't find more inappropriate nickname for utah than the i mean that's like the utah wrappers or something like that. Come on all right anyway. We got our man mark kriegel. Espn analyst and author coming up but first fox. Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup. In the nation catch all of our shows at fox sports radio dot com and within the iheartradio app search f. s. are to listen live tremendous writer. I used to love reading him in new york when he was here. We go schooled. I this dude is is bad. And he's a great boxing historian and writer. And i had to get him on the show i saw last night. They were showing the ali. Frazier like celebrating the fiftieth anniversary of their first fight and he was on the show with andrea ward. The great light heavyweight champion former champion. And i said to rob g giddy on the show for tomorrow if we can it is mark kriegel from espn mara city. Ach brother what's up fellas. I'm honored to be here. I know you both a long time. But rob wow. We were children this chris. We were at the daily news in the mid eighties late eighties at the daily news. Mark was doing news. I was doing speller covering cops man. Yup and we used to hang out with grab something to eat. We knew each other man way baggage man. it's unbelievable mark. I'm just used by no doubt agree critic of my most. Chris you see me at my most covering the knicks. That's right yeah. You're always miserable. Cover the knicks. I'll tell you about who you are. People are are dancing in the streets. Though marco records you know right right right right well. Let's get to it last night. We were doing the show. So i just had it on. The volume was off but watching. You guys go through to fight. And i during breaks in the show. I was turning up the volume when we weren't on the radio. And i heard you say you talked to. And i had heard this but my father told me he thought i'll leave wanting to fight and he would say one thing he would say is. Ali was in the hospital. What a night. Maybe a couple of hours and fraser was in there for weeks. What did you think did did allie win that fight. And whether or not you think he did or not. Why was there such a difference in i. Guess the the time spent in the hospital in obviously frazier kinda got the worst of it Frazier won the fight. And i i. I watch it several times back. Now as a grownup i remember kids getting into fights and school after the fight about who won the fight concern grade but looking at it now Looking at the the compu- box but look for phrase phrase. You won the damn fight right. I'll leave one ali. One tv What's extraordinary. I've got this story. I don't know if you saw the piece. I wrote a piece about it and i never heard the story but gene kilroy. Who was ali's business guys. So i think the last surviving member of ali's inner circle only the story from the speed several the other day i'll we did not want to stay in the hospital. He wants to make short as possible. perception sick and there was some thought that his his jaw was busted. In fact it was just really badly swollen remember. This is his first loss the first time he's been down and you ll have to great weapons in this fight. All these jabeen frazier suck. And no one's ever gonna vote like like that rum so he goes in diana ross consulting in the sooner dressing rooms. Pretty cool yeah. That is already heard about the hospital. Check-in x ray checkout fraser After the after the fight his body shutdown can't eat can't drink can't go to the bathroom he's packing goes to philadelphia checks into a hospital in philadelphia and it's weeks the week after the fight. The great writer budge schober who is responsible for among other things the line. I could've been a contender. Yeah yeah On the waterfront Great boxing movies but He called kilgore In the essex house hotel where he stayed with ali. I heard i heard. Joe is dying or about to die. Yeah And here's what they're saying. And you know the such bad blood between these at this point And i'll lee start. Most competent man in the world starts to panic. Here's what's going on the phone. Oh my god oh my god. Oh my god he he gets on the floor in the you know. The the prayer position puts his head to head puts his head to the to the ground. Starts praying Anything is to kill any said. If anything happens joe i would never fight again Wow wow and and and i know. I cover it. I ended up covering streams for But and and plenty rotten about it but when it's right it's the best. It's the best thing you could write about. Watch talk about whatever. It is because first of all the other sports metaphors for what boxing actually is. I guess and it made to but it doesn't really have the past. The boxing does right. The thing is that I bet you guys have seen this to the like athletes like ballplayer. No matter how big and bad they are they compare themselves to fight and the fighters fighters still to this day. Compare themselves to are these two guys And it's this weird thing about a sport like boxing is that you and this is what i think i'll leave was was was going through that moment. You need more than anything in the whole world. The single guy you want to destroy you need him. And that's that's the great contradiction of their relationship of how they stated of of why they fought so hard. I mean the frazier won that fight and looking looking back on it now i. It's less close than i thought it was as a child But it's still. It's still a great fight and there. Is this moment. When when boxing is right and i know all the goofy non-settlers when boxing is right you can see what is best about the guys sold or the win. Whatever you can see. What's best about that person's soul on display in a way that you can't see you know if you're if you're playing football with help no more let me. Let me ask you this because this is what i think. I was a kid in new york when when bond fights used to come on the radio and i would have a transistor on the my pillow like this is not like me like trying to listen to the fight and my point is what this reminds me of is a better time. When god's had to fight to earn their money and they fought each other there was no ducking. You had to fight the best. Who was out there or your belt would be taken away or whatever. That's the part that i missed from doing rob or you would be shamed right. Listen his one of the one of the things that made this fight so big at the time was you had this complete anomaly of not one but two guys without a defeat and Today you have all sorts of guys champions multiple chances. The dan defeat right out to me. Certain guys like mayweather. Mayweather was the anomaly Okay he's without a defeat he he's undefeated but for hundreds of years people long people been fighting for sport was no shame taken a law. I mean you take too many okay. But i'll you lost that night. Get hurt him. And now you've got today. The problem with boxing is such an imperfect damn sport. You've got so much even. Tell me this many perfect fighters go right. What he wants to lose right because they don't wanna fight the guy that they really need to the promoters wanted to lose fighters get cute about their their perfect record. Your to see the guys. And i've ever seen in my life thankfully if if you had if you had fewer undefeated guys they all forty me. It'd be better. Boxing will be a great party. And it'd be great for fox great for espn for showtime great for me. Know we got we got thrown or have you. Have you answered this in a minute. If you can't. We only got a minute why ali. Why did frazier. We saw ali foreman and all these other. Great fighters wide frazier. I know styles make fights but what was it about frazier that gave ali so much trouble. Damn hook. He caught all the time with them to wait. Let me look i hate. I hate to resort to the cliche. Solid make five but these two particular guys. Also these guys had the two biggest heart and and you know what else And and the way you the way that setup was more perfect than anyone. There's so damn perfect half a century later we're still talking about one more thing quick you can see in this fight the beginning of always transition you started. The night is the prettiest and by the by and by the time angered he was the topic and you can see the beginning even like in the round of the rope adult which was a style that listen whatever you throw it would be. I'll take it until i can get you right. That's good that's good to hear rain. Man ballot no doubt soubra. We'll get trust i by the way. Thank you thank you. That's the great mark kriegel. Espn analyst author. It's good to have you more rob. That was good. yeah. I go way back with him. I don't go much farther than him. But that's that's good man reminisce. I couple fox sports radio. You know what to do. Keep it locked fox. Sports radio has the best sports. Talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at fox. Sports radio dot com and within the iheartradio app search f. s. are to listen live. 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Games actually had some endorsements with video game companies now. They were removed quick fast and in a hurry but he used a an anti-semitic slur quits with high cliffs. Yeah i word. I just. i'm stunned. See that word and twenty twenty one. Chris stunned. Yeah have not heard. That word is i was a kid right. That's what i'm saying. I don't know. I mean maybe some circles. It's you don't know. But i'll tell you what and he apologized but it was one of those apologies. He said he didn't know what the word meant. I mean come on man. You may not have known origin. And you know what i mean exactly but you knew. It was an anti-semitic slip away. There's no hit him. What were you saying chris when he is the around it. What were you saying. That's why i would ask him. Why would you say that with what you said. That doesn't make any sense. Yeah people don't just go around saying words that they don't know what the meaning is it just you know so anyway. He gets five fifty thousand dollars and he suspended for a week by the miami. He can't go to their facilities. Anything like that. Look man i. I'm fine with this. I don't think it should be a death sentence. Obviously gotta learn from this julian edelman. Good move by him. He reached out offers. Robbie reached out to meyers leonard. Wanted him to go to. Shabaab is or give one to educate him on the jewish. Yes legion and and look he. Let's hope this guy learned from it. And i'll say this rob you want people to learn and have a change of heart but if they don't you at least want them to stop the behavior and i think social stigma is a very good. It was the word terrent. Yeah deterrent to labral behavior. I really do. And i think whether he has a change of heart or not. He ain't going to do this again. No and for other people out there. Hopefully they see it and just understand this act the world we live in mant. Stop it where. It's not gonna be tolerated. It's not that's right. People put up with that anymore. Chris and you'll lose your job. Endorsement suspension fine. Whatever you know right right. So hopefully he'll learn. The interesting thing is that he's out for the season. i think. I think i'd be a free agent. It'll be interesting. He's not much of a player on the nba level. So it'll be interesting to see if he can resume his career. So i couple. Jason smith mike. Harm coming up next. Keep it locked right hero fox sports radio and enjoy as you prepare to take to the skies again. Travel looks a little different now. At dulles international and reagan national airport's we've implemented new health and safety measures like sanitizing more often encouraging social distancing installing plastic barriers and requiring face coverings so while we may be standing farther apart. We're all working together to help keep you safe. 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It's called the world's pod highly recommend on today's program and reminder that listener discretion is advised. Enjoy now making a week the microphone. Dc data response to it and then. How vanni responded you're like oh you're a big boy down because he is daniel and every oh hell wani back in your life on this monday january. Eleven thousand and twenty one on a logan. Everyone mexico a a brand new edition of v. c. in hawaii presented by draft kings america's top rated daily fantasy. That's dc daniel cormet. I'm awani area in. Dc my man. Let me be the last to issue in yours a very happy new year. Not new year's. I hate new year's happy near my friend. Ariel happy new year to you my brother. I hope that You're filled with with hope and a renewed sets of what the world can look like during this year and off to start. You know i. I was over the course of the break. I saw that you want an award won an award. Congratulations you wanna to be the best in the business. You are the best in the business of once again. Congratulations congratulations to you all. I wanted to award him. So we all want an award. We both want awards we want in your speech. You shouted me out. But in my speech. I failed to show you out was so bad because you are constantly telling me how you elevated my status to where i can win these awards alone. I made sure to rub the back that helps me. You know so. Hey you won an award out one in the war till safe to say we may just be the best team in all things marsh nar. Nordic award-winning grint. You said it. You said it You got a few more to To win before you're on my level of course. That was ten in a row. All my is a here nor there just can't help yourself no never can let me ask you a couple of things Before of course we haven't done a show in three weeks. People missed us. I've missed us this. I miss dearly so it's so great to be back new year i feel reinvigorated. A first off. What's going on with your right hand over there. What does that all about this. Yes that's my globe. It's my glove now. i've i folded my glow. Goes like this right. It's an arthritis forty one years old now. I did during my career had risk issues right so i did a lot of cortisone shots odds to kind of help. Get the swelling down. Allow me to get to fights but the reality is you're only supposed to do a few over lifetime and i did way too many and so it really broke down the a broken all this of inside my wrist and got like severe arthritis. Who's crazy. Yeah but no. Athlete walks away from a sport completely clean. And if i've got deal with my back in my hand on my wrist You know there are a lot of people that walked with much worse. So i'm still grateful for being in the shade that so i thought it was a fashion statement on your own. It's absolutely not a fascist. You were going to try to make fun of me. You can for me in now. You got to put your foot in your mouth as you always do. Try to make fun of me when reality i've had i've got a real issue with my right wrist. So yeah of course. Today's a big day. Not only are we back. It's been three weeks we've done a show. It's also national. Step in the puddle and splash your friends day. Yes was just like a split. Seven of puerto is your friends day. Your kids watch pepe pig. Do my kids are nine and eight years old ten. They don't watch pigro. Wait so you're telling me you wake up in the morning. Walters watching pepper like eight years. Not only does he wash it. Watch it Yesterday actually we celebrated national houseplant appreciation. Day so it's been a very festive time around these parts and the hawaii household and dc's a very festive time in the world of mixed martial arts as well do you know why fight cards coming on right. That's right and dc. We are starting. We had three weeks off no. Ufc three weeks off. First event back. I event of twenty twenty one. I ended new year. Is this saturday in fact we should tell people you're in las vegas. You're about to go to abu dhabi. So you're doing the whole thing where you have to quarantine and then you're going to quarantine over there you're going to be doing the three cards but dc okay. So we all know january sixteenth. It's calvin cater versus max hallway mean. What a great fight writing important fight for both guys one forty five. We all love max. Hallway just got engaged. But can i just say something right. Here now dc. Yes for the first time in a long time. I'm excited about a fight card. Not because of the fights and of course the main event. I'm excited about the platform dc. And i don't know if the ma community Truly recognizes and appreciates. Just how special. Saturday is for those. That don't know. Saturday will mark the very first time that live mixed. Martial arts fights air on abc the american broadcasting company one of the oldest networks in this country never before has eh may action of any kind live fights aired on abc now. It has aired on other broadcast networks. The other three have aired them over the past decade or so but never before and abc in fact dc lie fights having aired on abc since two thousand since june of two thousand. And the reason why. I feel like this is so important. It's not because we were you know. Abc is a sister network to espn. It's not because we were of all the broadcast networks giving you a bit of a history lesson here and you can buy that. You could use this on the air on saturday of all the broadcast networks. The one that has the richest history of airing fights is abc abc. Absolutely you go back to nineteen forty. Nine was the first time that abc air boxing. And of course it was always boxing leading up until the point but dc when you talk about mohammed ali. Cassius clay at the time knocking out. Sonny liston that was on abc. You talk about you talk about ali frazier to that was on abc. You see you talk about your guy. George foreman knocking down those frazier. Down goes frazier. Downs goes on abc. This is a really big and historic deal. And i don't know if everyone appreciates it. Massive lit era. This is when when when i was told that the show was going to be network I immediately was like wow big deal. Because i remember as a kid in louisiana would watch boxing but it was free on abc. And that's why all the great champions were so relatable in easy to excess for us who didn't have much because it was on free television it was on abc. You have to watch all these great. Boxing is now. Here's listen to this thing. I was supposed to go to fight island a week later. Reo i was supposed to not leave until the eleven thirty the fifteenth signals. Sixteen leave on saturday to go to abu dhabi to work the mcgregor fight. I wasn't going to work for the fight before holloway cater but when it was an abc network show on media call. My boss was like there's no way i could not be a part of an abc show. It's so big for the company. And i wanna to be a part of this historic night because i call back to the night at the first fight night on the last night network that that we were on. Ese and amer how big it felt right. Obviously we'll feel like this will star studded but the reality is this fight night on next. Saturday will always go down in history. As the first time mixed martial arts truly was just it was accepted globally as as it has been but in terms of the general public will see on a level that they've never seen before because everybody in the country everybody gets. Abc you don't have to pay for it. you can. When i had the bunny years top my television. I got abc. So this is a massive time for the ufc in a massive time for the sport overall and and granted everything has led to this. Because it would have been. Abc right away. It admitted while this is huge. Stephanie see but everything has been step after step after step from from spike tv to everyone to the fox to abc. It's all grown to this level to now it's at the biggest network that the have ever air and and it's not just them being broadcast television. What i love about. It is the history when i think of abc. I think of wide world of sports. And i think of howard cosell. Who was someone that meant a lot to me. I read so many books about him. And mohammed ali and their relationship. I mean i remember. I've watched clips of ali and frazier on while we'll sports getting into a brawl just a few days before the rematch. Remember that like. I always thought that that was john jones right such a big deal and i want to congratulate you for getting this opportunity you know. Unfortunately i beat you to the punch. I was on. I was on christmas game. You know forgot one. Big boy got arod area. You don't call me. Mister prime time for nothing mr broadcast but hey for mma. It's a big deal. It's an honor. Has happy that you did that that you recognize that because i hope i'm hearing that there might be something in the works in terms of educating but our sport is so young and one of the things that have always disliked about our sport is the fact that there's no hall of fame. I don't feel like the history of the sport is told enough. There aren't a lot of great books. Written about 'em as history at this point. We're not like we're not a teenager anymore. We're twenty seven years old. As a sport. I feel like the history of the sport needs to be talked about and this is a moment that we may be talking about like your outfit. Are you going to be wearing one of those like a jackets. Gifford howard cosell jack. We're on the yellow jacket with chris. With the i should walk mean i wish i wish i wish we got those. I don't know. But i'm telling you if if i've got a beautiful suit for this weekend like listen i've got a suit that i have not worn yet. A brand new suit that was save for a special occasion that i'm bringing out to a two five island for the abc show. It's a big deal man. And i recognize that immediately and selena. Recognize that immediately. She was like its network television. You have to go granted. We want you to leave earlier. This is network television. You need to go the big deal for the us. In i want you to be a part of every big moment. That organization has in the sport has. Because which do in for my wife to recognize that as a person that really doesn't follow it to know what seeing fights network. Tv means so huge. Do i'm very happy for it. Here's another thing. Roughly on add this. This is such a massive deal for sport. And i hope that every time if it continues it feels like this. So that's why you know that. Abc such a massive company won't be on every weekend. It'll feel very special every time it happens and i think we treated as such because so many people are going to get to know. Max holloway in a mac spot for calvin cater. And like you said there's hopefully there's a espn's great producers. The production grew is second to none and they will build something. They will build a package. Hopefully that educate the new people Tuning in on saturday as to what you have seen has become it's massive. I cannot wait. And i do want to let people know that it's a special start time. So the prelims will start on. Espn plus here. In america at noon eastern nine am pacific and then the main cards at three pm eastern twelve pm pacific. That's on abc. As of right now five fights on the main card and some good name. Some names that you would want to put on a platform like this watching buckley right santiago positive and who we haven't seen in so long coming back against legia fight that we have been like the welterweight version of tony ferguson Be matt brown versus carlos condit. They've made it several times hasn't come to fruition. They're finally fight. And then the main event is you mentioned. Max waivers calvin caters. Let's talk about this caters. Look very good. In my opinion he was one of the most improved fighters of one hundred twenty. He's part of this new england cartel that they are rising their head coach tyson. Chartier has done a great job with that team. Rob font just had a big win in december. You know max very one. I know you spoke to him recently. You did a little Little video thing. Laura sanco on. Espn post i. New your friends as well. Where's max at like because because there's always been talk about him recently outgoing up to fight. Where's he added healthy whereas maxine gives us the insight. I spoke to max the update before he left. Just a you know when you're friends with someone and your task calling their fight. Obviously there's a fine line. Because i need to be as far as i am to be fair to calvin cater but as i lead into this thing i wanted to wish maxine a good luck in in safe travels and i spoke to him about where he was mentally as portugal. How felt in dude feels great weights under control murrow before that was like a a big issue the way he's look leaner in the last few months of ever seen him as he's going down to forty five he seems happy. His life is is fully in order and he is completely focused on the task. That's in front of him. Because as you said calvin cater is a killer. I mean. This do is an absolute savage. He's got unbelievable. Boxing in you know what people are missing is him a be right for as good as a beat magomed. Sharipov is that fight goes longer. I'm not sure cow incapable wouldn't have beaten him because as that fight was going at third round kita was putting it on him. Walking down digging shots to the body land of shots up top Do special man. He's a very special fighter. Any finds himself in that spot. That every guy that's on the rise finds himself in against the former champion against the guy that has been to the mountaintop. Can you propel yourself through them into their position. Crazy thing about that is most times when a guy's trying to do that. They're fighting champion like a cruise dominick cruz for that matter. Dumpsters mid thirties. Now i think right dominance thirty. He's still very young former champ. No he's fighting against a young guy that's looking to break through Aniston silva mice. You'd get these young guys. That fight older fighters. Max is still last night. Even i don't think max is thirty right so cater find themselves in a spot where he has a chance to propel himself but he's still has to go through a very young hungry guy. That really does have plenty of time to make another run at the title yet. Max just turned twenty nine which is right. be bringing years. And it's easy to fall into the trap of the narrative that he's lost a couple in a row and all this stuff but a lot of people who myself thought that he won the volkan off ski fight the rematch in july. Ever so closely right. It was a super close fight. But i thought i thought he won that fight so i'm not buying into the narrative that this is a crossroads fight or die. Tony ferguson. Last month right. There were two that we spoke recently. crossroads across oregon. And i think anderson before it's might be engine. Can't we were talking about these fighters being in spots where they have to win or it's over. That's not max holloway. Max holloway twenty. Nine years old. The first fight. I remember i fight with him and volkogonov ski. I spoke about how close to fight was. Now's like miss. A close fight fills close. Right was landing lottery lakers and everybody was like. Oh you're being vice wasn't it was forty forty seven across the board. It was a close fight but that second fight was also very close. These guys are so evenly matched. Let's see how max fight someone else because katie is going to be facing in ready to go and you gotta love with. They're building down there in new england. Geyser i love their swag. I love the way to support each other. they're fantastic. It's nice to see one team. In new england winning these days. Of course the football team not doing very well. But i'm happy for those guys. They're great funds. I'm you cannot go. do not win. Broke all kinds of championships. The celtics win everything. So don't do that. The nursery a time. We have to boston again. We're gonna accurate stupid airport. And there's like one hundred banners of tabby from the pruitt's and the celtics and the patriots don't make that goal right now is trying to. I'm just trying to say you've boston. Do any other motivation to go win championships. I can't deal with it. Do you agree with me. That he has improved or is he the same guy. We're just seeing him. He's more comfortable like the notion. That calvin caters most improved fighters into ufc and had a great twenty twenty. The win over. Jeremy stevens win over dan. Ebay i made is that. Is that a big deal or like or do you feel like he's always been this good now. We're just kind of noticing it. And i think he's improving right. I saw him fight against a. He followed me on. Ufc twenty he fought against a landed. Beautiful knockout against them What's the guy. The other guy is from boston to shame. Burgos burgos right. Knocked out shane burgos and it was. It was nice right but you can see it. He was unfinished right. He was good but unfinished. I think in these last few four princes. We've seen a more finished version of right. Where doesn't seem like our many holes. He doesn't overextended on his punches anymore. He doesn't leave as many openings as he used to. I do believe he's gotten a ton better. And i believe that not only. Has it gotten better in terms of technical skills but mentally and the confidence that comes with winning having teammates that are having high level success. That confidence cannot be. It can go unaccounted for. You know you have to recognize. There's a confidence that comes with the team elevator together. That makes it makes it better and makes you a better five. And it's a very porn fight at one. Forty five we presume. Alex volkogonov ski and bryner. Tak- will fight for the belt later on this year. No date attached to that just yet but hey let's just say i dunno ortega wins. There's a chance holloway to get back into the title trove. He's getting a third crack at volkov sqi but if cater wins he could very well be next for the winner of that fight regardless of who wins all you know. It's like mac for max holloway. He needs brian ortega win. Hold three over. And before in the way that he did but calvin cater if he beats max holloway he can sit up there and goal. I deserve title shot right now. So i should be in a position way even though he's lost his right. Because when is a for hiding where you take i. We haven't seen the beat for long. You need the momentum. That cater would carry after victory of holloway. Would be the most important win that him or a beat would have had over the course of their careers because the biggest win right now is calvin cater. Cavalcade goes and beats max holloway. I dunno how you sit up there and not start to look in think. Maybe this is the guy that should be next. After a brian. He had zombie. Had one of the more disappointing twenty twenty. Just because he didn't fight in. I think we were all thinking. Like by the end of two thousand twenty. he'd been a lot of in the twenty twenties. A beat would have the built right yet. Looks so impressive. Injuries schedules fight falling through. So many different things played into him not getting the fight. Obviously the pandemic everything conduct brown. Like i said is a fight that We've been talking about maybe happening towards the tail end of the career. We wanted them to fight. You know four five six years ago but fun on paper especially since condit looked so good his last fight ponds nabeel coming back to me of all. The may cartwright's even walking buckley the ponds and abo question mark is seemingly is because this guy is like truman ultra contender and everyone's forgotten about him other flights which interests you the most. Like which one are you most excited. Obviously am i. I want to see the main event. Obviously i think of the of the young ones nabeel Seattle works with this right. He does a lot of commentary now. in i see him of of his preparation through the end last year. You could see him slim out. You can see his competence. Change right his swagger he's always had swagger right laid walk in cool but as he started to get closer to a competition he was a little more. Swag us a little more confident. You can see that the dues ready to get back to work. He's got a tough fight in front of him. But the you have to have that type fight if you're who he was when he left and i saw something yesterday where he's all mad about the rankings. He goes out and does what he's supposed to do this week. And he'll be right back where he loves. Gaw so like you said. You're there for three cards. You're there for the sixteenth on. Abc then a rare wednesday afternoon card which we shall talk about in a second and then of course the capper is the economy gregor versus dust. Emporia ufc two fifty seven card. 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So what are you waiting for head to the app right now. Download the draftkings daily fantasy app right now in. Please use the code ariel a. r. e. l. And you gotta make it. Rain limited time new customers get a free shot at millions of dollars in prizes this week. That's called area only draft gang. Dc what did they have to do. Used cold aerial. They can bring a minimum five dollars. Deposit required eligible used. Fictions apply see draft looking for details. Now have to talk to you about january twentieth because january twentieth was supposed to be the big one it was supposed to be Shemaya versus the on edwards. and of. Course we're supposed to get this fight on december nineteenth. We're supposed to get in the main event. The final main event of the year. It was so perfect we talked about why was so perfect. And then of course the youngest covid. He's good now so they they moved to twenty so good right mid week card right before. Connor woo great. Everyone's talking about fight island that return bubble then of course homes has complications to cova. Because he's over but he's got competition and now they put me on on ice. Dc it was a mistake. It was a mistake not to have hampstead fight on december nineteenth clearly. And i'm here to say it was a mistake not to keep leon on this card. He asked for magny here for case there the new main event. Give this guy anyone. I don't care given carlos condit after he wins or matt brown after he wins the end which should be fighting. This bugs me. He should be in the main event january twentieth. Don't wait the guy hasn't fought since july of two thousand nine hundred and for god's sakes it it does subtly on it does suck fully on That he doesn't get the fight you know. Obviously he was willing to step up but the reality is it was so difficult to get a fight for tamayo of and it was so difficult to schedule those guys that they got it night feel like going away from it just makes it. It feels like it would just create a whole nother logjam right to in terms. Who's gonna fight this chinmaya in our area. The complications from their real right. Because i had and i know how doubting that at all. I'm just saying i know how difficult it is for him to train average order breath. It's hard it's hard to do what you're supposed to do but the reality is i do agree i. I wish i was fighting. But i just think it's such a big fight for for it's a big fight for leon and it just answers a lot of questions on both sides i would like for leeann know if he is able to be gemina to know that he's fighting for the bill knicks. That's what i just. That's the only worry that i have in regards to. That is that he goes need beach. Tamayo someone that if you look at the rankings. He's supposed to win. That doesn't guarantee him. A title shot at nine wins in a row. But if my wins now you know what you've got right if he can get you know what you have so i think he's just to import to move away from and you don't know what's going to happen for leon on the front and you don't know what happens from leon or comes out in december in terms of money are financial compensation. You don't know what they did in order to allow for these guys to push back. Because usually they will. You will get some some money from the us. Just don't publicize it okay. But here's the thing. Do you see as you said very rightly. So the complications can last and we hope they don't last. We hope that he's back at it. Some guys bounce back and look at kevin holland. He was able to fight like a week later. Some guys don't clearly in issue right now. You have a healthy leon edwards. And don't tell me no one wanted to fight. That might neil. Magny was sitting at the front of the class. novak new new magnolia. So neil magny by case you have him. Fight comes out later in the year. And you have leon fight someone else. Don't tell me there aren't guys available. I just think that. I think that this fight area. I think when you got the number three guy in the world willing to fight this kid that has taken the worldwide storm. It's so important. I think it's hard to move away from it. I'm serious manley. The more i think about again i like rockies one of my friends i know him but it's like i just feel like it's so important that this fight comes off because it can answer so many questions about both of these guys that you gotta try to keep it together but is it fair to leon. I mean the guys have fought since july of two thousand nineteen was his. Doing that was his fault right. So when you when you're liane edwards and you turned away some fights in last year when they were offered. Now it's like a. We need you to wait a little bit. So it's like i think it's like it's like hand. Come one way. Hand go the other way right if you give and take and i think that that's kind of what's happening rocket but again you don't know what happened to rocky on the back end. We don't know what happened rocky. We don't know what leon would you. Send the routing number to your bank account and you don't know what number hit has to wait like that that easy. Hey hocus up with the routing number and this is like when your your opponent gets hurt sometimes if you compensated a little bit especially in those spots now. I don't want people to buy where'd you. I'm not trying to be everybody mad at me. But i'm saying when you're in these main event spot sometimes happens. Okay so we're on this. We put a deadline like like if they don't have this book by march first move on How long are we gonna wait here. I do believe that you have to move at some point with boy. This is the fight. I think it's a fight. I think it's the fight. I think i would have had suburban ferguson on the sidelines until the stars align. Never would've that's what. But that's why ariel that's why the excitement level was through the roof right because as it was excited we call it a december nineteen card at the end of the year. The greatest fight. And i wanted the greatest fighting but it was the main event was leon was not you might in the whirlwind crazy. It was a great fight. Fight all man. you get. Get holloway skater. didn't you get your maya versus edwards. Color dustin wow what a great week now no disrespect to make yes are neil magny. It doesn't feel the same that fight. It's my oven edwards together. That draws that attention. And i think that's why you gotta try to keep that fight here. Okay so i'm instituting. A march first deadline now as much and i hope they honor it as much as i dislike that decision. Another thing that happened during the break is something that i liked very much. In fact there. I say i love it. I love it michael chandler versus dan hooker. You fifty seven. That's the fight that should have been made several months ago. Not tony ferguson. Fight not the dust emporia fight certainly not a title fight. Michael chandler needs to walk in here and he needs to prove himself against a tough guy like dan hooker and i saw some fans being like. Oh this is not what michael chandler signed up for. He signed up for big. Excuse me michael. Chandler wasn't even the bell tour champion with all due respect. He wasn't so it's not like you should be getting a unification you talk about the nature. Boy it was like when the nature boy showed up to wwe they put them in the rural. Have the belt though and have it. No yeah he did he. Sono red had the belt. Reliable doesn't michael doesn't have the belt so he shouldn't be fighting champion. Dan hookers the perfect guy in fact when he signed go back. Go back several months in writing. Espn dot com. I said he should fight. Paul felder or dan hooker. Those were the fights and they got a right. So that's the main event i love. What about you great fight. Listen i remember. One time. I was a i was doing a promo for the pay per view right and it was a conard. Dustin top and i was trying to build some of the other fine housing audit it said it will be added. I'm sitting there knowing. I'm sitting there knowing that it's going to be channel versus subway right but can't say but the excitement inside of me was like oh my goodness people are going to love this. Matchup it's a great matchup was when you said that dan hooker Areo what i tell you not always working so sometimes i have to work you at times like you weren't you weren't me now in fact we don't even talk. We don't even talk anymore. We're not doing the show because we don't want the key foot anyway halls and then i finally get you on tax. If i'm like anyways. Excuse me perfect you. Hooker is going to challenge and mate. Michael chandler fight in every aspect of mixed martial arts. Hooker is tough as they come from a great team. He's got unbelievable. Fighting spirit will cardio him and dustin poor. You went to absolute war in the apex just recently. And if you want to see whether or not michael chandler's ready for the elite of the division. He has to fight and beat. Dan hooker which is not an easy thing to do challenge fight. I'm not exactly sure. I mean i can say it. I can say 'i outside. I mean outside of a tricky. Tricky pit bull. Tricia pit bull outside of patricia. Pit bull who. I think is fantastic. This'll be the toughest fight he's ever had. I mean he's never. He's never seen anybody like the alvarez. Don't forget about any hours to knows pfizer. Great but i don't know men primedia. Eighty pit bull in alvarez. Those are the two. I don't think he's ever seen anybody like that. Benson you're not at this point would benson right like the same guy writes like when you look at who then hookers today in his absolute prime coming off a main event fight with dustin poor. Well it went tit for tat over twenty five minutes. This is one. i mean. easily one of the biggest fights chandler's ever been involved. He also gets the rub. He gets the fight khan on the same night. As gregor it just it really will elevate chandler if we can get the job done but if he doesn't you know we're back in the situation where you have high thought of free at community you have seen interest as a workout. Well he has the perfect spot because if he wins and wins impressively and then the next man up is connor fighting. And let's say just for the sake of this story. Connor wins all the fans that are watching because we know the numbers are going to be. Great are going to be like if he gets on the mike and says hey conor mcgregor i want you. He aligns himself. That combing spot is prime real estate and he even the cool main. It's like there are. Hey i know this is a my guy. Now is one of the biggest stars no world happy but do you remember. You have c tool five. I want to fight your chicken. How be fought was even on the main card. The prelims prelims michael johnson. Michael johnson on the prelims. I want to fight your chicken. In all of a sudden they start to mention how be even in the same breath business. Champion is a young guy on his way uk and then it just builds in the. Us can call back to that right. The irish who going crazy. How even the middle of the octagon in the come a time. When there's just so much history built up. And i think that it just explodes so chandler. Being the coleman event it puts emini. perfect spot Dan hooked to. If i'm dan hooker and i would i'm a mealy saying something about mcgregor. Whoever wins one hundred fifty five pounds on their fight card. You say something about mcgregor because guess. What mcgregor doesn't have the ability to not respond. He was something back because he gets going and just kind of says something. He'll he'll say something and elevate you so brown telling you there's a level. There's a level of stardom that comes with fighting on in with this do that. I've never seen. I mean look at what happened to be. I mean happy. What what two million dollars for like twelve overnight. That's crazy so good yeah. I'm called him on from a michael chandler. And i'm glad to be in that spot by the way speaking of which if they sold like pay-per-view version of daynuss meeting with habib abu dhabi. This coming week million buys right. Listen listen i think has been hyped up what they have done a great job show between data streaming streaming five dollars like our charge. Forty ninety five they would sell like five hundred thousand of those. Are you kidding. i'm selling. I'm selling the meeting with habib. If i'm dana white because the meeting with how beat may be biggest. Pay per view of all time because people want to see what's going to happen with the student for me. It's so refreshing to see how much of how much how vivas real in terms of the general public. I love it man. I love to do. I think he's a great guy in the intrigue around has just. It's it's you know like you know back in the day in wrestling had the contract signings in the middle of the ring. You do something like that. They come they sit in a room. They have their negotiation. And either at the end hubby pass to decide if he stays retired or will fight one. More time i mean. Could you imagine the ratings. The ratings will be through the roof on an idea. It'd be it'd be. it'd be fantastic. Sadly it won't be like that. I mean we could let that dream goal. Sure might put me on conference too. So i can take notes and report. You'd be you'd be the guy that they would call. I did so did on the beating absolutely Can you tell me about this. Eddie hod arena. Because you got to see you're one of the few people on the planet that actually got to see it. This is the venue shelby hall hosting fifty seven. What does it look like. what does it feel like. It feels so good than the boss tour and him walking around as other pictures beautiful. It's beautiful area. I mean it's the state of the artist state of the art goals. There is the back seat in the house. I know a lot of arenas is not a bad sheet in house. But then you're behind. The dang tv would the ufc configures the arena There isn't a bad seed in house. It's absolutely stunning from the from the exterior to the interior The sweets are just unbelievable. They brought us into the suite. That dana would be in those those like the thing is unbelievable nice but then he took us into the second street beautiful. Everything is accessible from your seat. You never have to get up right unless you go to. The bathroom is just from your seat in by everything. Oh you want to hit a button hit about you. Never have to go anywhere in this place. It's the most service friendly arena in the entire world. I've never and if you go to an arena. If you go to an event their concert the hotel is connected to the arena. So you just walk right across from the hilton into the arena. It's actually it's absolutely perfect in terms of in entertainment or an events venue now. Now be unbiased here for a second. What's nicer that or the smoothie king center talking about being biased. I might though is there. You don't read his eighties arenas now man. The way the things that are being built today. There's like nothing like it. like this arena. That the raiders play in all like every time they build these new up the ante. I mean right so for as good as jerry were. Was you in ten years. They're going to build an arena football stadium. That's going to be better you know. It's just every year more and more things are being used in building. These facilities that are on match added. Either right now is is going to be the gold standard for obviously on next. Monday's show. We'll talk a lot about connor versus dustin poor versus mcgregor. And that will be the monday before. Two fifty seven. You'll be in abu dhabi already with the one show in the books. Speaking of to fifty seven. You're recall over the summertime. Dc we did a vip virtual shell for the fans. You remember this we did it. You and i We talked to the fans before one of the cards in july. You remember this. You have no recollection of this whatsoever. Remember we did. You came on for a few minutes and then did a trivia thing. I do remember that anyhow. We had so much fun. Doing this. this past summer were doing it again. Prior to fifty seven say we. You're not involved because it's going to be in the middle of the night over there in and you're very busy over there doing abc and whatnot so also wrestling when everybody off. I mean you'll be rubbing elbows But i want to let everyone know that. A virtual live and vip vip means very very important persons Edition of alcoholism may show. We'll go down on tuesday january nineteenth at seven pm eastern in advance of usc to fifty seven again. That's choose day. January nineteenth at seven pm eastern. You can come hang out on zoom with me as we preview a c two fifty seven. We'll do in with your questions and you shall see the return of how knows trivia challenge. Who are the two winners of hawaii knows trivia challenge in the past Steven mnuchin yuanyuan. Jj sorry anyway. You can submit questions when you register for a chance to be answered live during the show. Registration is free. Space is limited so go right now to bit dot l. y. slash. Hell wani island to. That's bit dot. Lee dot elite l. Y. that's l. y. Bit dot l. y. slash halawani island to all lower case. Hey some of us can't go to fight island but you come to the island baby. That's bit dot li slash awani island and the number two to snag ac- to a fun evening and you get to hang out with me. How great is that all right. Dc now Another piece of news that happened. We're kind of recapping the last few weeks but also look ahead right. So it's official. Israel dunya against yamba. Hobich is is moving up to two. Oh five. he's going after that second title right. And what a car that is on march. Six three title fights also found out. -puter yon gets al joe amina anderson against the menu. But i want to ask you that. It's official that is years going up. How do you feel about this move because we have to remember glover kind of gets the shaft here right. Forty one years old doesn't get to fight for the belt also kind of holds up one eighty five although not a lot going on right there and when he five but if he wins. Does that mean we kissed goodbye. John jones fight of john's going up to halfway. How how do we feel about this whole situation. There's a lot of moving parts here. I love the idol. Listen hey speaking from the resident double jam. I love the whole pursuit Something that is was at least unheard of I love our love that he's doing. You know i love that. He's going up there to try to capture that second championship. I know it makes it difficult for guys at one. Eighty five but that gives it a little time to sort itself out because right now one eighty five. We're just looking again at robert whitaker standing atop division without izzy being willing to fight him again right. Now you go to tool five Over by sexual sex video man. That has put this together in. Look so good in doing it. But you know when you have a chance to when you have so hard talking about this right. Because yon behold age. Who i think has improved tremendously. If you're going to share and you're looking at the title right in is not on. My ways are jones ways. You're going man. This might be the time right. This might be the time for me to get this belt so you feel bad for him in that sense but when you have a chance at something like this history you have to go with it and i think it's the right move Tough deal i think the whole which is i know. He's a little bit. You know not going to be as fast as sonya but man dude. It's hard when he makes contact. He hurts people in is he has got establishment. True or false. Do think israel days of fighting one eighty. Five are over if he wins. No no those back down. I think he goes back down just because he is putting on any way to go to five. He's just kind of stay in. The state is not taking a joneses. Taken an approach where he's trying to grow himself out of making tool you know what i'm saying. He wants to be a full on. Hemingway whereas sonya is going up but not putting on any way. I don't know what he weighs. Normally what you fifteen to twenty. Probably two to seventeen in that range. He signified fight it his natural weight which may be beneficial to him because he's not going to deplete himself but also we made this version of that sonya in the polish fight. Okay true or false. Let's keep this if izzy wins. The tool five belt does that increase. The chances of us finally seeing is versus jones in the summertime. i don't know. I think that i think that jones wants to go to heavyweight from for everything he says. It sounds like he's making a full-on commitment to go up in class. And if that's the case I don't know if he would go back down here. Here's the deal right. Jones penny pentagon. He's i saw something the other day on I had no idea. Hey listen. i'm living my life on the bigger and better things network television. You'll do it a whole bunch of different things. I'm not fighting anymore. I saw something. It was the anniversary of i fight and i saw Didn't even respond the this like water off your ducts. Back ain't nothing. Here's the deal. I mean i have a title but look at me. You look at the hook you retired. I've got a cushy job living life you don't want life is good so he's a bit penny right. Can't let things go. And he may go down chase the edison. You fight so you can't put it past them. But i feel like this is the time where he's truly committed to going up. I think we don't see that. Fight in twenty twenty one. Because because they're they're prediction was or at least is he's prediction. Was raiders stadium in in the summertime. Twenty twenty one. I don't think we see. I don't see a path to it right now. Here's of things to like summer of two thousand twenty one. We still won't see a full on raiders stadium. So it's like a a that's one obstacle but obviously i just don't know if jones what is gonna do. I saw something the other day that said that the meal june gano may fighting in april one. St pay wins his fight against in ghana heating the fight again until august september. Maybe i mean things have been him. And i fought three times three years right like so they need to figure out a way to keep that division moving because imagine okay so curtis blades and derek lewis or fighting in february now february twentieth. End of november. Curtis got covid if poor curtis blades wins that fight. This guy's not significant title shot right. I mean this year. No curtis please be derek. Lewis and in jones is going to be the guiding title. Fight i but we have to wait till april curtis blazed by not fight to the built tooth for bill. Twenty two thousand to two at the end of the year though because things like this iota you if meal just continues to fight at the rate that he does that means that he would fight twenty one against one person. If the wins on the belt will wait till twenty two when he fights next time. I doubt it but if he loses in ghana will fight because gone. Who gonna win the fight. He's gonna knock him up so we'll be a long fight so in ghana will turn around and fighting again. So i think if the heavyweight division it would be better if meal church doesn't hold the belt but dudes goodman he ain't going to be easy to get their boat off of It's a bit of a mess. I i have gone on record saying. I don't think john should fight before he fights for the bells. And the only the only option that i would be down for is him versus history. Because that's bigger than any title fight. But i don't see that happening. That's the part that gives me before and like you said imported is blades dudes going to just have to be busy. Because the reality is he's beaten is what everybody else outside of the champ and franson. golly beat everybody else. So it's gonna happen to courtesy. Just sit around just fighting random people. What's he gonna do. Mean against zero gone is on his way up but did you put him in there. Were curtis blades. As time goes on because curtis is a tough fight for just about anybody. I mean i guess you could do. Cyril gone in curtis. I think that this division it just moves slow in our part of the division and the division movies lows had no complaint and then i can't really say nothing now he'll also. It is what it is one that will get back. Rolling is the welterweight division February thirteenth day before valentine's day will get komo news. Men the nigerian going up against burns the former teammates. Now going head to head of the first half of twenty twenty was was the first half of gilbert burns. I mean what a great six months he had was not active at all the back end of two thousand. He was on route to the fighter of the year. Gilbert likes to call himself like the donald cerrone although donald tony winning squad on a title shot neither here nor he got his title shot so kudos to him. No i'm just saying i mean. He squatted on the title. Shot that he not are those back. You'll know it but there was talk of maybe him fighting on edwards cove. It that cove in july right in front wasn't scheduled anymore. So why would you go find somebody else. If i'm giving birth and doing the same big. Listen listen this is crazy. Wows the girls inc is going to be almost a year. No because it's not squatting. Title fight he fought. He fought gonna nelson he. He fought Damian my entire woodley in my entire for david mind fought last year. Who just a ma mazda. Yeah so that. Covert mas one. Who's wanting didn't schedule another fight. So he was free i'm not scheduling to fight as the guy that's in line in the champion is free. You don't do that. That's not squatting on the title fight. You can't ask a guy who's the number one contender to go fight another number one contender fight when he's already scheduled and was going to fight the fight for the belt so that's not take it back. That's not squad. We don't have to rehash this. But leon edwards deserves it just as much as ten. But i'm not reacting to take it back because because the guy is earned a title fight and he's the champion isn't scheduled so it doesn't make sense to go fight again because even so imagine this right. Say he fought. Again i'd say he would have fought leonid region. Say october november. Right now he's got to turn around and fight the champ in february jambi fight while he for months. Wouldn't you wait for champion if you're the challenge. Hey guess why. Do you remember when i was gonna fight my first title fight in september right and i came as a replacement for gustafsen. Jones got hurt. Yes you did over the course of the next month. They never said hey. Would you wanna take another fight. No because now. I'm the guy will it. I'm waiting for that championship. But the case was the champ fought in july. He did with again. He got cove it. I know if he didn't if you didn't get the that he would have fought the champion. I'm not interested in cashing this right now. I wanted to ask you about the title fight. I mean what you. Pr person here. And i'm allowed to have a pr person. Just seemed like i just down a little bit unfair which i think that was. That's not squatting. Because i again. I did the same thing. That doesn't make it right. The disease squad. Another title statue while yours was different because the champion in that case got hurt in this case the challenger had to remove himself from the equation. So it's different. Of course you're gonna wait because the champion didn't fight. But in this case the champion did fight and by the way there wasn't another guy number one contender who was as irving as leeann edwards again. Not exact title funny. What are you talking. Bout polling replacement guy. I was replaced. Now you're not the replacement guy. Vision is gusta scheduled to fight the rematch. in september. got. I went is. We all wanted to see the undefeated. Olympian trying to put your. You're trying to put yourself down. You're the fight on it to see that you can say the same thing. It's what kind of a chance i mean. Clearly we know the answer to this question. Now what kind of a chance do you give gilbert against tomorrow. I think he's a great fight. You'll burns it's dangerous. I think you'll may be the most dangerous guy. The division four kamara disease version of gilbert birds. I never would've thought that a guy that possesses the grappling ability that he has improved to the point that he has now i mean is cardio fantastic is boxing is unbelievable. He's got sick power in do this game. And he's a brute minis of bullying and he's gonna get anybody's face day to we all thought going into the woodley. I gotta stay out of the right hand and if i do drops the almost tomorrow you tired survives. He just literally beat him up for twenty four minutes for the rest of the fight. Dues dangerous man and because of it because of his grappling ability. I feel it's going to make use mine fight a more standup oriented fight because it's so dangerous going to the ground would burs. Here's the thing we've seen in those situations before against rice. Memorize the guy. She was shaven. Knocked them out because he didn't want to take him down because of the grappling right so he's not going to stand up trying to knock out killer. Burns is no easy task. The guy stand up is equally as good as anything that he does very difficult news. Mon- in spun one of my friends and and before everyone starts crying. And i'm being unfair. He's one of the most fighters to your point of twenty twenty. He had a great year. Going to know against damian. My intern woodley nothing to scoff. At all saying it was all the first half of years which i understand. I understand what you're saying. When i related to my situation being so sensitive. Okay i mean really since squatting a bad thing people have hey someone's squatting on area who wanna dot com. I'd love to get that your l. If you can get it for you or me. Dot com is. What's yours website anymore. Yeah it's true. Got rid of it by the way on the subject. Dc underscore mma. I feel like we need to evolve from that. We not get daniel cormier. it's gone. It's gone gone avenue. cormier is gone. I cannot put at daniel cornea. It's gone now you can buy off of someone. I feel like that's worth it. would you mind. Would you mind starting negotiations with the guy. Have you started. i want you to do it. okay. I'm i'm active. He's active. Yeah him and john jones not know all big boever. So could you go to the guy that has added daniel cormie angle. Hey my friend is looking to purchase this name off his own name for that matter. Yeah yeah would you be willing to talk and discuss. That's because i'm trying to get on tiktok and area he's taken. I go with hawaii area. Can you believe that. I'm going to be big on this earth. Oh yeah this is one of my new year's resolutions to be more active on tiktok about either you love tiktok. You're the one who throws my kids are ticked up. Listen dan dan. Did you give my center following tiktok. Okay it's all fortnight to give him a shot up on my page to very first as the very first social media. My children have had dan. And i think my daughter is kiki. I think you should get dinakar me because you've evolved. You're not just dc under a work on that. I'm gonna work even conner conner's at the notorious amazing needs to get conor mcgregor for god's sakes for second he kind of your cruiser him a million dollars anyway I'm going to work on that for you Speaking of money and a million dollars what about this segue tremendous segue We we need to talk about anthony pettus because our last show of twenty twenty. We were talking about pets moving. Potentially your belt. Or but i was trying to lead you to. Did you notice that. I was trying to already. I knew what do you mean. You knew already. Talking about his rivalry. I knew already. I was just trying to like. Sometimes you gotta work man. You gotta work the work you got to work. I was trying to lead you down that path in the end. What about that are often. Are you surprised he went fell over bell tour. Not necessarily. i think that you know we're starting to see especially in the clients. A firm is a first round of management first round management management malki and his brother aid. They're doing these little different right. You see page going over to suck. Boxing you see your merrill in delatour now luckily but did not only you l. a couple of the guys that they represent. Now you see anthony over in. Pfm those guys are taking their athletes in seeing where the most value is an sending them. There i mean. I think that's smart. That's smart they're not. Those guys are tied to an organization in and you know the reality is. I don't know if it was joint between the ufc impedance. I don't know if because what a guy like you said it was. He said it said it. Tracy said it was joint right guy like anthony better says the you have seen you for a long time. You'll have fun fights but where does he go exactly right. Ease kind of faltered in those biggest spots in if he continues to beat guys like monroe. You'll just find him back in those spots where he has altered right so there a bit of a ceiling guy like that as he enters the later part of his career. And so you just kinda let them do their things. I like it for a few reasons number one. I heard he got a tremendous contract more than he's ever made before so i'm always happy to hear that especially a guy who's been around for so long Number two as you said fresh coat of paint for his career. I mean it was kind of bouncing around one. Fifty five one seventy. Can you make a run at one fifty five and the loaded one fifty five division. Ufc maybe not at this juncture. But he's still very good on a winning streak. Oh by the way. He's on winning streak so he's not a cast off and i liked that he didn't go to belt or only because look. I think having multiple organizations doing good things and big things is good for the sport. Now the fans might say i want it. Spread out like say boxing but for the health and future of the sport. It's actually better. It's actually better for everyone involved. A rising tide lifts all boats and for pf l. Who had you know a a nonexistent twenty. Twenty were hunted on twenty twenty. Didn't do event now. All of a sudden dc slowly but surely pf l. look my biggest criticism of efl going going into twenty twenty prior to the pandemic was. It was the same guys like the owner. Where two million dollars over new day. Now we've got names like pettus we've got signed near right or doom or doom out. Morey mcdonald hasn't fought for them yet. He signed a year and a half ago. Olivier obama says a for hedda clarisa shields all of a sudden. It's a new station kill harrison. What i'm talking about new faces right. Harrison nokia fought for them. Nobody kayla harrison renaming new years. I know but i'm talking about new faces here jalen anyway. I like this. I like this very much. I don't know if he could win the tournament and go to the end and get the million dollars. But i think this is good for everyone including the sport. What else guys. Those tough man. Like i mean you know palmer has dominated that those determines because of his billion poems about his tough as they all come. He's honorary. he's mean he's just a dog. he's a wrestler. He's a guy that just wants to win but having a new guy pettus makes it crazy and you know what if you're not confident that peta's gets to the finals. I'm not sure he doesn't. I would put him in palmer right away. How would we output right away in that tournament to make sure i get that fight. My biggest name guy in that tournament against the other big league. It's a great point. You know because way back when a little history lesson for you. Remember when bill tor signed roger horta and they wanted to do roger horta versus eddie alvarez but lost in the first round sometimes when you have the tournament it doesn't always help right and this could help build stars but if your acquiring stars and you're trying to lead you gotta you gotta capitalize on there now that would go l. and rumble have to fight. Now you did. I'm sorry because you don't know if anthony goes in fight some other guy if we will elevate him enough for that guy getting to the finals to matter as much it gets a guy like palmer but if palmer pizza pettus in the first round coming off a wintery i think it will elevate lance more than elevate someone that may not be as because the general public knows the general ma world knows palmer to a degree n lease if it's a guy that no one really knows Any beats anthony. Sure he'll be known a little bit more won't make have the impact that it would have for a guy like lance palm. Well i could give you some breaking news right here. Now anthony pederson lands palmer will not be fighting guaranteed. Why commerce. The one forty five champion. Are you talking about fifty five. When did he go down. Natanz shulte is there win fifty five. When did when and you pedestal fighting was always a forty. Why here's what paul ryan guy go up. Who knows who knows. May i didn't even know. Waitressing nickname like party party. Ohio state buckeye. It says did just a nasty little wrestling do love lovell any alright. So that's very exciting. Like i said so much going on. It's an exciting year coming marie-eve exciting time in that whole list of topics that you sent me. We've got through. You think i wasn't going to look at your little topic. We got through the whole topic. Liz show so whenever what samuels topics again. That's it why you were offended by that. I was trying to prepare you. Hear and see your so. You've been off so long you won't be able to handle. Be throw stuff at you anymore here. Iran behind the scenes. Trying to help you out. That's a true team by the way teammates on telling you. I miss sharyo. I miss you. They say about you when you as my guy right you call me right before my abc debut. I don't want to hear from anyone else but you. You gave me the pep. I got the pep talk app. Talk that the gilroy wrestling team gets before a big who's excited to your sit behind plexiglass. Hey the house for the first time area. Kyrie what performance. It was a very serious. You know what's russell sparring match. Kyri audience says how would how about kyri knowing who he was talking to. You know what that tells me that. Els me that kyrenia who's knows who area hawaii's he knows he knows what you do outside of being there to interview them after the game because he made that sparring reference. You'll obviously know that. You're your mixed martial fisher. Of course. I didn't want to say but you did so. That was massive. I couldn't believe it. I pop pop pop with kyri said sparring match the same way. I will pop when i see you on. Abc this saturday january sixteen. I mean this is the network. Muhammad ali joe frazier george foreman howard cosell hosanna. Does that make me. And gifford. he didn't he didn't do A gift for development as much boxing but anyway this is up there with you defending the heavyweight title madison square garden. The very first title fight square garden. This is a big deal my friend so make it happen represent if you want to say hello to me like a little wave or a bachelor. This might actually. I mean that might be possible. I may do may do if you wanna do that. I a site. I saw you talking on the broadcast full. That's right that's right and you wanna remind everyone that this week's episode of bad guy. We'll be looking ahead at twenty twenty one off. They told me to do it. They told me to say. I didn't want to say but they get asked. What can i get once you and my side girlfriend l. Listen okay okay. I'll stay in the shadows. Jeez lease safe travels over there with all friends. Going to fight island on your fancy plane. Love you next week will be at the beautiful w hotel. All the they've been by the way asking me when we're coming and then i will make sure to get the lights all set up and we'll look beautiful as i did last time all right so on that note back next week. Same time and place and told them we say brad here

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Ep. #147 - Karen Woodson, Bob Oakes, Stew Peters, Gregg Scasny

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Ep. #147 - Karen Woodson, Bob Oakes, Stew Peters, Gregg Scasny

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Thank you sometime. She's there's resuming. The audience knows where we were. I was getting there. I didn't want to be followed. We can talk about it this morning. Yes we were at sunset grill. Oh my gosh. Being able to go out in the back of sunset grill and see the The ocean waves and the people out there and and the son said and all the loveliness is just a fine to me on the way down. Oh yea we're going to be able to see sunrise. And i'm like we're going to say overnight. So what were we saying yesterday about how you always think that you're protecting me from people that are dragging me down and i said no you do a fine enough job of dragging me down. You don't want anybody helping here. You go were what four minutes into the show. You're already had to stab me in the back. it's like. I feel like i feel like mike pence. No marriage work how it works. And i didn't lose my place. Don't forget to subscribe to our newsletter. Everybody you'll get that. Every tuesday and friday right before seven o'clock and you can do that by going to our news page. What's the website address for me. The last time she put a story on the page was oh what. The ali frazier fight. And that's fort myers snow. It's not fort. Myers beach talk. Radio news dot com. Say your dad myers fitness. No oh wow. I haven't said that that's where you going. And karen you are here for specific reason and rushing us. Karen we will get to you in a minute in finest here. It's your friends advertising right. We've stayed there a couple of times. We love it there. It's like one hundred fifty feet from the beach. It's beach talk. Radio news dot com. A box will pop up and you'll be able to register for our headlines and later in the show. We are gonna talk about everything that went on with stu from his politically Where does it call politically correct show or politically incorrect. Show or something like that. He'll tell us what it is. And he's visiting here on. Fort myers beach with his family is two lovely kids and we always liked to have the boys on every year. They come down. They've been on the last two years for anybody. That has some history with the show that was when we were outside. But that's a whole different story ladies and gentlemen care. Woodson joins the show and the crowd. This is the same artificial crowd that you heard. Nfl games these days. Yes so they just pass it around. So carrying woodson is a long standing. Member of the fort myers beach community. And she serves on seventy two boards. I don't know how she spreads her time out. But you do serve on more than one. Three three boards are the boards that you serve on so i am on bore cab which is bay oaks recreation. I am on friends of the arts and all so folks which is friends of lovers key state park. There are a lot of friends down. Here is a lot of friends. Does seem like every thing has its its friends organization like friends and matanzas. There's there's i'm right. Well it depends on well. If their governmental okay government association than they cannot do any kind of fundraising or anything like that so then they have to have friends subsidiary group. They have to have friends that can manage all that for them. We should talk radio on a public thing and we were. We can get money. We'll just. We'll just create a friends of friends of kimberly ryan fund. You'd have how many members you think you can sign up to that ed ryan jumping on the club. That's right stick together. You have to have feelings in order for them to be heard but anyway enough about me. Let's get back to you. Caryn the main reason you're here is we have a big big meeting coming up on monday. It's about time first of all at the town council gets back to work so it's not just Leave that to later. Talk about things. I don't want to put you in the middle of anything but the town council gets back to work on monday. Finally after a vacation in december scenes and before the regular meeting which has pushed back to ten o'clock. There's a meeting with the committee that is has been working. On the bay oaks redevelopment project four years two years at least careers. At least that i know of and the committee. The committee is made up of some fabulous community. People share chair and barbara hill. Is the vice chair and lima is on the committee and holly and homes. Now if you want to go back to listen to some of the bay oaks committee meetings. You might have a little rough time. You have to learn how to lip sync or read people's a voice from the back of their head because the sound system there but again that's a whole nother story. They had a meeting last week. Where once again. We're trying to figure out where we are with the project and karen now where i think we are and you correct me. If i'm wrong is the town. Has the town manager has pitched to the council of five million dollar project which is way smaller than the bigger project that the committee worked on for years and approved. And so tell us what where we are in in your own words not mine so as soon as you shut up so you asked how long we've been working on it so it started my understanding. I wasn't on the board until january of twenty twenty but my understanding is a started back in eighteen even with discussions and that type of thing Dan was actually on or cab at the time And now he's so. He's our liaison if you will with the town council but it started in eighteen with ideas that you know. There's needed a fresh look at needed. A fresh start. Very few people were even knew where it was. The gymnasium is like twelve years old or something like that. The courts on the tennis courts needed upgrading. So all these big plans started coming in. And they paid each developed their own then came to the town council i think originally which is thoughts and ideas and pay her sketches and that type of thing and then there was in i. I wanna say april may june somewhere in there of two thousand nineteen. We had a huge meeting of all people that would affected so the chamber of commerce for the was there. The little league was there to represent them The school the school was there. Lee county was their everyone to get their input on. Do you support this number. One and the answer was absolutely yes. What would you like to see. And the little league especially has some real prominent things they wanted. To keep to ballfields they needed the ballfields upgraded. That type of thing. We needed a new fitness center. We needed to separate the fitness center. From what i'll call the social centre because i mean people like the card club or some of these other clubs that they have. We're like meeting in the middle of the gymnasium then trying to jiggle schedules with the elementary school for their gym time and it know just too small. It's way too small. So we got the buy in in nineteen and then we started seriously working with architects. And really seeing what we could do the vision in with the with the county and the school district to get that land. Oh that was a huge thing. And i will say that. That was a big meeting and they. Yeah yeah. roger. Did some really good work there. In negotiating and getting lee county on board to Give us land. Also those the school board to work in partnership with us and give us land so that we actually had the land surrounding us that we wanted to to make this outdoor trail in this fitness trail. And oh an amphitheater. That's a huge one. Yeah so what you just pulled up. There is the e vision that bore cab had after going through many many renditions and we wanted to look at this as a phased approach. We knew there wasn't enough money to get this all done at one time. That was made very clear to us from beginning but they also said dream big yup and if you could do this in different phases and if it could be a you know eight to ten year plan what we look like and where would you start and that type of thing so this for folks that are watching at home and can see the visual there on our page there. It is on the website. It's the first story on the website. Beach talk radio news. If you scroll down to the bottom you can see that. This is the original plan that the committee came up with after all the work they put in of how to. This is the cadillac right here. Submitted to the town council you that the that the committee wanted to bring to the town crafts okay with the two fields because there was another plan with one one bigger field with multi use but this right a plan with two fields and and that was a real request by the little lead to have to continue to have the two feels because of the age groups and differences with the kids right but one of them was moved to create parking on the left and so we removing that and then we also thought at some point we have an amphitheater at the end of one field where you could use the outdoor field as seeding right facing the separate standalone amphitheater for concerts. And that type of thing. So tell us what else. What else you guys have come up with here because there's a whole bunch of different parts on this. Okay if you go down to the very front bottom right there. No originally there are three buildings coming in and this is coming off of estero boulevard. Where the little sign is a oaks recreation so the idea was to have kind of a welcome center and then the building behind that would be the administration building which would house. Also what we're calling The soft recreation or the quiet recreation. So that would be your cooking classes cultural things your card groups you're bingo groups or whatever may be then the next building would coincide with the pool and that disability and that would be for your recreational so that share a fitness classes at your lifting its Things that go boom and make noise so that we're not interfering with the administration building So we had originally three separate buildings if there was one that we knew all the way along that we would give up would be that welcome center at the very first building so that would take out. I don't know how many millions of taking the welcome center out but then for sure to have the administration building we had big plans for that and even outdoor upper level deck. That could be rented out for events and weddings and parties and that type of thing and then the third building being our new rec center. So after all of that what happened to that presentation like how did it. I never did it. Ever get to the council or not ever make it to the council. Okay and it's actually. The council is probably going to. Why can't say see it for the first time but it will be presented by us to the council on monday. Okay the first time because we don't know exactly how it all came about but all of a sudden at our october september october bar cab meeting there was a whole different plan that was given to us. That had already been on into the council. So i pulled up here. Exactly what you're talking about. So after what we just showed you with all those different aspects to the the bigger plan what the council wound up being pitched was this which is approximately five point five million. Although my understanding is it's still over by saying it's more but texas thing it's gonna be more than one field one building with an attached amphitheater. Correct correct okay and so. That's where the that's where the whole disconnect happened where you guys started to get upset. The committee started to get upset with roger. Because basically you correct me. If i'm wrong along the way i'm not trying to stir trouble i just wanna sure not on this issue anyway. I just wanna make sure that the facts he went to the council without coming to you guys. I and saying i'm going to show them the five point five million dollars because that's what we have the money for correct so take us through that so we came into our bore cab meeting and we're all looking at this plan. That was submitted. And we're like what is this. We had no idea we hadn't seen it. We haven't talked about it. So my understanding is roger had worked with actually sarah mayor from the rec center and I mean in a nutshell. They tried to bring in everything into one building that the rec center actually needed. But it took it from. Oh i don't know let's say i'm making these numbers up because i don't have them exactly. Let's say took them from three buildings in this whole campus to a out. Twelve thousand square feet piglets. Thirteen but thousand square feet which is not even close to what we were looking for. It had everything again combined in the same building. Which was the noise factor. The you know we're to smallest space out of room. They still had the old gym in the plan. Which that's fine of the old gym doesn't get worked on right away but the old jim for understanding is falling down. I mean building is not in great shape. The foundation is cracking. we can't keep it. They said when they built it. It had like a twenty year longevity. And i think we're at year twelve or thirteen or something like that so anyway but the biggest thing was we weren't consulted. We had done all this work for over two years and all of a sudden just kind of blindsided by the fact that what is this new plan we have no idea and when the plan was pitched to the council. I think they were kinda leaning toward this. Looks like something we want like or we're going to go with because the town manager recommended the staff seem to and then i don't know so many muster whispered in somebody's ear or some something. They must heard jim hall. Said wait a second. Put the brakes on here. We need to have a meeting. And that's what happened. That's happening on monday. Well there were a number of us that addressed the council individually by email by phone. That said this is not what we present it. And you really haven't seen what we presented and oh by the way. We don't expect this to be done in one fell swoop. We're willing to do this in phases but we want something that is substantial something really welcoming four our island. Something people will use and be proud of And that just didn't happen. I mean i just point of clarification. So are you saying that the council has not seen the the original plan that you guys came up with that. Dr mp presented no they. They have seen it. They've actually seen it but it wasn't presented as this was wo- we want okay. And they've seen it was one of the dish wasn't presented the way this this small right so the one of the questions. I want to know what the count. What the committee wound up saying about this other plan. Which is the other thing that makes me feel like you guys are so far apart is it was almost like a unanimous motion to call this latest plan fast and i know those words were us and i'm not sure and i'm not saying betty simpson said that anything like that. I don't think so but others. Okay and now how how. How is it that the communication is so off. I mean just. It doesn't doesn't compute with me. How is it that that happened. It didn't commute any of us and so at the bar cab meeting that. We actually saw this plan for the first time that was presented to the council. We asked roger to come in to the meeting and said you know. Where did this come from. And so he you know he had said that you know he worked with sarah. And he worked with allison from bay. Okay but and this is what they came up with architects and this is what could fit in but he kept trying to back pedal and say well. This isn't done yet. this isn't done yet. it's like well. How can you say it's not done yet. Because you've already submitted it. So that's when the whole concept of we wanna meet with the town council. We want to have our say. We wanna take this a fresh approach and show them what we really were talking about and looking at all the phases and that type of thing. So that's kind of where it started. And that's when roger told us we were already over budget with the five point. Five million i you obviously. You don't have to respond to this. But i kind of felt like you guys. He he was given the oppression often the meeting at least the parts that i could hear through the sound system that you were completely wasting his time and that it was a pain in his ass to actually have to come into that room and talk to you and then you know. Lee mel sec is is. He can be Outspoken and it just like it was going to be a war of words between the two of them and then towards the end of the meeting. Roger started to soften up like okay. Well it's not the end of the thing it's not. And meanwhile all these consultants and all the designers keep just pocketing all the taxpayers money in this town. Whether it's with that project or the bay side project is just like okay. We gotta go back to the drawing board because our town manager can't communicate with people enough to get on the same page and okay. You don't have to say anything that was just a a statement and everybody knows how i feel. But so what do you. What do you want the residents to do monday when this whole meeting comes together. I mean if you were going to carry. The meeting live on the facebook and the youtube and probably only hear every third word. But can they come to town hall. Do you want them to come to town hall. And i know you know. I'm not joking about the sound system. Not joking it's horrible waiter or and it's it's almost as if the town manager does not want the residents to hear what's going on because dominion is true. He's getting paid over two hundred thousand dollars. And he can't figure out how to make microphones work so that the residents can actually hear what's going on. But i digress. Well let me let me just comment on that one second because not only you were trying to listen to our board cab meeting last week but dan allers. Who's our liaison. He was trying to listen and he couldn't hear anything either. I mean every once in a while he would get a snippet. So i think he went directly now to our town manager roger and is as we gotta do something and i mean it's been over and over this but i think we're maybe we'll move forward on the sound system. I'm not sure. I'm putting words in everybody's mouth but i'm hoping because that's an issue during i mean meaning right and you don't want hoards of people coming down there but they will if they can't so especially under the current system that were just a little able to now you're gonna interrupt me you talk for twenty minutes. I'm very talkative today last weekend. You monopolize the whole show new year's eve you were a big deal over their next door their hair flowing all that so i just a little tip before the meeting starts test one two test one two. We do it every week. Picking deal that what it is but it cuts in and it cuts out and it makes it impossible to to quote people accurately and to know what's actually going on unless you're sitting on it doesn't leave room for discussion because what happens is when one person is talking all the other. Mike's her off. So if one person is talking but another person is wrestling paper. The paper shuts down the mike. I think they've purposely shut off lease microphone last week. Just you know. I'm just saying that. I'm just guessing. They're guests there so debut. Answer the question about asking for crying out loud letter. Get an answer out. Geez okay so what we would like so we know that. This whole new project is supported by The chamber it's supported by the school is supported by lee county because they all were instrumental in bringing their pieces together and what we really need is for the people of the island to really come and talk so the nine to ten meeting is not open to public comment at starting at ten o'clock. Which is the normal council. Meeting back will be a public comment so people can be there. They can show up. They can sign up to talk they. Can you know we really don't know what will find. Because from last summer to now we have not had another open session for all the parties involved and we really would like to get that done too but we just really want people. If you support this you need to show up. You need to get your either email the town council. Write your letters. Call them our show up at the meeting on monday at ten and get your voice heard so on the meeting thing for those of you that don't go to the meetings or can't go to the meetings or watching from out of town come down and use the facility. We carry the meetings on facebook if you watch the meeting on youtube. You can't comment on it but if you watch the meeting on our face on i'm not trying to push our facebook page. Go what i'm trying to say is you can watch our facebook page. You can make comments. And i'm telling you that the council probably. I know some of them read the comments after their wedding meeting. And i'm not saying you have the same thing nassar or anything i'm just saying. Put your comments there. And they'll see them during that nine o'clock meeting and then if you wanna make comments on the ten o'clock meeting and go to the meeting you have three minutes right to make your comments at the end of the weekend. If you want to address the town council. I mean you can send them emails. You can find all their emails online under the town council website. You can address each one of them individually or as a group if you wanna get your word end before that so they actually might see it before the meeting. So we're just we're just reaching out for all the positive support that we can possibly now karen the big The big question is this is a big project. it's a fifteen to twenty million stole. My question is this a fifteen to twenty million dollar project. There's a possibility that if that project is the one that's shows that there could be called for a referendum on taxes being raised as one way to fund. Some of it is one way. Do you believe that enough people in the community a us if the syllabi and be would vote for a tax increase specifically for bay oaks. Well i think if they realized if they realized that that wasn't the only option to get the money we do. Have a group called friends of bay. Oaks is not very active right now but we want to get that reactivated. Because it's the friends of bay. Oaks can help us with fund raising and grant writing and that type of thing. It's just like the friends of lovers key right with lovers key state park. I mean we just had a ten million dollar building built and the state built the building but now it's up to friends lovers key to finish off the interior with all the exhibits and the education and that type of thing and we're fund raising for that we're grant writing for that. We've got great donor coming forward. And i think the same thing could happen. I little go go ahead. There's other stakeholders in in this project. Right like little league. They can generate a lot yes. They can't on raising their all about so there's that option. There's the option of phasing. It in which i guess is what you're saying. That's a huge deal. I don't need to do this all at once. We can phase it in over the next five seven ten years. Whatever we need to do. But the i wanna get what you want rather days shortsighted now and then have to add something. We're going to be out of that building again the one. That's that roger put forward. I mean i think we'll be out of that building again in the next five to seven years fast one. Yeah the smaller smaller one. The one the one building with no so the the mini. Mainly you brought up. You brought up the lovers key a little bit different because it's a state park. It's debbie was telling us it's like one of the highest used state park in the third third so bill. Vh councilman vhs. Has said that he's he wanted of concerns. I think was that the usage numbers at bay oaks. And do you think that. I know it could be a chicken and egg thing too. If it's a nice bigger building that actually people can see or nowhere to go. You build it. They will come off. They know it's there and it's a brand new state of the art facility. They will come. Yeah i mean look at all the new clubs around the library so act. They fought for that. They got what they wanted and that is in us all the time all the time. So let's say two on monday. The council kind of leans your way we've wasted all the money on the design and all that which is not your fault and certainly. The committee was moving forward on the on. The the think big. It wasn't a big wasn't or something like that and the thing that councilman hossa. Frost really irked me when she said you know we tell everybody to think big and sometimes it's not you don't take it literally like you're going to get everything you want. Well if you tell people think big yeah that's what you're telling them to do what you think big and get small. What is what does that make any sense. Here's they they did think big and now they're one of the things you brought up was that you could. The welcome center might be something that. You're is negotiable. Let the welcome center go thing and then we're going to scale back here. I a whole building way saying about think big but then not even be considered when they pull the rug out from under you and present a totally different concept that was ever discussed with us so when a what was going to say well i was going to bring up and i know there's a member on your board. That's not a fan of this idea but there there are. Someone had mentioned way back about that. He will might wanna do naming rights for building. Does that one way to generate a a fan of it. I think it's mr malcic right. No i think it was a fan of oklahoma fundraiser. Wasn't he misunderstood. What naming rights were until we talk you thinking like big companies sack. He didn't want corporations laming hurts coming in and hang sprang the money gree and the do this is the commercial side and this could be individuals individuals. There could be marinas. there could be environmentalists. There would be all kinds of groups and five. Oh one c. Everything that come together to do this. They don't have to be. he immediately. Went to like burger king and mcdonalds. We're not talking about those. Gotcha so you know. There's a possibility that they could lean your way but what that also mean was be like you kind of going back to the drawing board. Right i mean is that is that. Is that what that what what happens next well. I don't think we'd be going back to the original drawing board but we do need to decide and come up with is our understanding right now as we have five and a half million so whatever that first phase would be has to come in at five and a half now we also understand that there are some excess money that has come off of a bayside park and come off of maybe possibly time square. I'm not sure about that. We're just trying to find out. What is that. Maximum total that ryan would have for phase one and then we go on for phase two. But you build phase one with the idea that it's going to carry on into the building says no. Do you understand how silly it sounds that you don't know the committee doesn't know what the budget is. The committee's never been told what the budget is. The committee's never been told. Okay we can do this with five million. That's oh you mean like actually in the bill out liked to write. The committee is not allowed to have dr dr mp come in because it costs money for them to try that that whole thing was like it was almost like. I'm doing it and you guys. Just do whatever you do in your little committee meeting. That's actually on the agenda. That was submitted to the town. Council for monday is like we need to know so that we have the ability to make smart trades to make smart move these phases. We don't know that we just get this lump sum but we don't know if the sound system that we added was you know a million dollars should only be two hundred and fifty thousand. We have no idea so tomorrow monday. Rally do we do. We miss anything for monday. That you want people to know or get involved means support. The committee and i mean really. If you if you're a friend of obey oaks fan of may oaks or you use it. You really should be paying attention monday at nine o'clock if not for any other reason but understand. The process at this committee has gone through and all the time they put into this. And maybe they don't get a twenty million dollar of aoki's or they get a fifteen or twelve but you know listen. It let us decide that as a group is an organization with the town council. Let us put it in two phases to at least have some hope of getting Some someone state of the art or the island. And i still go with if you build it. They will come. And someone was asking. And i think the answer is yes. I think we did talk about. You can attend the meeting in person. You just need to come at ten o'clock at ten o'clock it's not air. I don't think that's correct. Think you're allowed to have a meeting with all the council that's closed. No no no. You just can't come. They can go to the the meeting. I don't know what she's gonna wanna come. Hell comment once comes at ten. If you go at night and you're just going to be well you'll probably be able to hear better than the rest of us because you'll be there in person ask system as you may have heard us talk about. Doesn't work very well but You can listen to the meeting as it's going on in the building but you can't comment until ten and now might be fine. You might wanna comment at ten if everything that we propose and what the town council has to say and then you'll also that will give you a better idea and understanding of what to comment on. Be sure to wear your masks. You by the way numbers works you find out what happened with bayside park when when that tried to get railroad by roger and his team and so you know if you organize and you wanna show up and support Bay it would be a good idea to go at nine a comment a tent. And you know you will get a full understanding of where we're coming from what the council is saying. What could possibly generate next steps. Karen thank you so much. You're awesome and your committee is awesome. We love the committee. And i wish i could hear the whole committee meeting because i know you guys do great work. But that's when is your one. Is your next committee meeting after that. We always meet the first tuesday of every month. So what does that. The second suite so february. Second greece awesome karen woodson. Everybody join us on one day. If you can't go you can. You can watch us on facebook and youtube. So there's carrying again. She's getting a big hand from the artificial crowd. 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Sam's marina before you get on the boat here very nice very nice. I think your next assignment is to grab our second guests as they turn the microphone around and you know what the strange thing is that when we did the new year's eve show from From manga rita's. I went the whole two hours without having to take one single be and i don't think i went to the bathroom during that show did i. And now you know half hour into the show. I gotta take a bathroom break. That's called old age everybody old age. Someday it's going to hit us all all right ladies and gentlemen. I don't know if you recognize this gentleman here but his name is bob oakes. Welcome to the show. I don't know what she's doing. Oh she's She's keeping you safe from all of our previous guests. Bob oaks is Is our next guest. Here are ready. Come on. we are almost good at that. Your transition was almost perfect. You ask me can you hear me. Yes everybody can hear you dear loud and clear you asked me to do the ad and then you go to the bathroom stretch it out to stretch it out but i have to change the. Oh you say we're keeping everybody safe here to your focus on the guest the not yourself. Bob oaks from palace vacations. Run away oil fan and listener. What is wrong with you bob. How six people know nine bob. You're not really a fan if you don't know the number our numbers dow mind. How dare you do that. Gosh so how are you bob. Well first of thank you for being a sponsor of the show and we appreciate that very much now some tell everybody about First of all tell everybody about you. You've been when did you come down. Why and how did you get started in business down here. I came down my company from the outer banks air. You got oh north carolina of north carolina. That's the season geography whiz. I don't know if you knew that from previous shows but we we had the chance to To buy a great company down here some palace. Ron and judith him straight had grown accompany. They'd been here for thirteen years. Great quality homes great customer service and They were at that point where they're ready to retire so came in and got to know the folks and Closed at the end of january and It's just a group of people not is january last january nineteen twenty twenty. Yeah everybody likes. It could have been a little bit. Yeah so how many how many wait a minute. So what's your background like. Why what what were what. I was doing vacation rentals on the nineteen eighty-seven wcau so you come with a lot of experience of well verse. I've been in the houses so we used to live in north carolina in jacksonville. Greenville lean while the radio. The radio station that i worked out because north carolina so that was one hundred thousand watt. So that's a lotta watts deal. That means the radio station said go very far. And when all the way out to jacksonville and there's a base out there in jacksonville right and then the outer banks is close to jacksonville right or no. Probably a three or four hour drive okay. That's pretty close. I mean if it's greenville north when you compare north carolina compare florida to new york. Then it's close right. That's close about three or four hundred miles. He didn't say that he said three or four hours. Not press with The beach here. Yeah there's so many good things about it. Sure walk released list up the government but that's different story. Yeah the atlantic ocean a little bit rougher. Mrs yeah and the little kids can walk out forever. It seems like yes they it. You can go a long long way before you're going to get in over your head which is good. I swear to mile negotiation one year. During your ironman. Yeah so tell us a little bit about some palace vacations. What can people get. What do you have to offer them. Well anywhere from we've got moges studios which are some studio rooms. Sweet spot right there coffee shop. You're block from the beach is just great access all the way up to. We've got a lot of gulf front homes so you can get a six bedroom where you can bring the dow emily And that's what that's our clientele is family groups for the most part on the right on the gulf right on the gulf. And then you've also got the homes. No place in fort myers far away from the right right. So we've got folks that come down to two or three bedroom home now and just walked to the beach when they and they say they'll stay for a couple of weeks now. mojo's is right over by the gypsy. Right that's the whole spot. There are your or your apartments or are they hold on their studio or to the side or a loss. They're above nice kinda looking down on that courtyard and merges now. Did you have to refurbish them when you came down or they were good to go when you got him with vacation rentals. You're the you're the manager and you recommend things to the owners and and you've got to have some standards gotcha because there's a big trust relationship there with your guests. They want to know what they're coming into and lift. It's a certain quality and then same thing with your owners. I mean they're trusting you. Take care of the home. That's their their number one concern. Thank god governors. We have governor to send us in this state but the big question is how has the pandemic affected your business. Well early spring was a little bit of a scary time. Just completely shut down. Yeah probably mid march through the end of may and actually went back to north carolina during that time. 'cause there wasn't much pointing in here. We were right And they've actually closed the bridge to non-resident property enters in dare county so that caused a fair amount of controversial hundred. And you can't get to your property but when it opened back up. It was a lot of pinup demand and people just wanted to get away and vacation rentals. We're just the perfect venue for that. You had control of your space There well cleaned and you had just had only your family there and the no real common areas so it was just the perfect setup for that people are coming back and some people are willing to travel and some people. Aren't you got to respect. People's individual decisions are obviously. You're going in there and you're doing all the covid routine clean. Every house that comes in we're doing our regular cleaning and then we also did a treatment with a product called prevent excellent which put up a barrier on for ninety days to kill the virus. It's what they use on the hospital ships in new york. He's not he's not paying attention. We're doing a show here. He sees his life see runaway kid around with them. We need to shut. the heater. officer guys are breaking. Oh no kidding. All very nice we had him. We had him on the show. I really want to compliment. You've give me a lot of good ideas on things. Oh you kidding. And you're making that we actually. We actually got this book for all of our property owners and the autograph copy. Because when i went in to buy the books the author was they're nice amount only signed one hundred twenty five years saying that you've got that idea from watching him on our show is sir you know when i was watching the council meeting. They said Somebody had come in. How many you buy one hundred twenty five hundred twenty five hundred and twenty five bucks say books and they didn't say was because you watch the show dammit. I wonder why didn't they give us a credit for that. Did you tell them now. That's pretty cool platform. That's pretty cool for you. Like instead of the bible or next to the bible or how does that whole to our property owners and that the you know the proceeds went to the friends the mound house and that their opportunities there for them to join. You'll have setbacks cool so you have one hundred. Twenty-five total properties or of we're we're growing were looking for other quality properties to represent them fort myers beach. Because we've got a lot of guests. That wanna come yeah. So how have reservations been recently. Good there you know. Folks are a little bit more tentative they are booking later so they're not booking. Six months in advance is understand. Yeah we heard that the deal the people kinda wait till last minute for the book that changed how you do reservations okay. And we've got a lot of people here that come back year after year. So they've made their bookings back last february two to come in february or january to come in january fingers crossed for the shrimp festival coming up. I know this up for the five k. and You kidding last year crashed yet. What's your five case Time what's your best time. That's personal know. It's not an issue at your underwear. Size was make out. What is your best smile now. How old are you first of all. We'll in the right category. What are you fifty fifty two pages. No i don't. I guess my wife say a fifty nine next month so all right we would be in the same group then if we ran i'd be looking at you from behind. I mean for sure. So really does your. When was the last five k. Ran because nobody's holding them anymore. You mean like for time not yet a race race actually back home. We sponsored a five k every thursday morning in the month of july and goals and got probably two hundred guests. That came for sure. It's really enjoyed it. Yeah so what was your damn time by telling me. I'm already caputo now. I might do a nine minute mile very your dad when you were younger. Will you run five ks or did you pick it up later in life. You know i did cross country in high okay and different run anymore for a long time. Are you knees holding up. Because i know the running on the pavement really sucks. Sometimes i mean it's just well and y'all speech is so much better right monitoring for running. It's hard sand. It's flat on the outer banks. You're running angle most of the time when you can find soft sand if you really wanna dig in workout and you can run on the hardest sand. You have every every five ks on the beach for a season as well so does dependent on the tides. How hard it was so. You're not the kind of person that has these awards and medals in the backyard hanging up. I mean it's show people like that or do you have that kind of stuff in the back yard line from all the five games. Yeah i mean you gotta take the medals home she does. She's got medals everywhere and just annoying. Yeah i used to have trophies from what. I was eight years old. I had every play every sport like baseball. And and we had Football and had lacrosse. And you know because i'm a spirit superior athlete. I used to get a lot of trophies and she throw them out there in the attic and she threw the mouth. And you know that's tough to. He was eight years old stuff to break from things. Like that stuff too. After my comic books the last couple of comecon. Those are worthless space. How far back do you go. A more the sixties. All marvel marvel in there. Yeah that's big money right. There you go to the comic book goofball sotomayor freight yes crew. Now the paper stick into each other and go right ahead asking them questions about such. Didn't talk if if you can a ballpark figure of how much a vacation would cost down here. If you were to do a studio or a house what is the average or does it vary so much and doesn't matter where you stay like no it matters. I mean it's going to be more on the gulf than it is off. We've got a real variety of ranges because we've got a variety of sizes and you have something to meet everyone's budget. That's where i'm going here. All right and there are also some properties they're like modena's you can rent for three nights or four nights. The there are places that you can't do that right because the rules on the beach. Right you guys yeah. It's either weekly or monthly and some other spot so you know we respect that and the one thing get along the one thing about the governor's rules out. I didn't quite follow along when they started to open things up again. It was like the vacation rentals. Were like they were just how you're left out hanging. It was like wh why why what's wrong with the vaca- and it didn't make any sense to me. And then the counties had to step up and propose why the of our county we have. Great county government here They they stepped right up and got the got. The vacation. rentals going with that thing was whole whole thing was strange ba- Of course the whole year strange but that really was totally strange. Now i think it took some lobbying on the part of of vacation rental associations to make the point that. Hey these are really. You've got more control over your surroundings than than you doing a resort or hotel. Bob what we do for you man. Hyun have been great to us and you know all the information you can get a hold of you. See you see the properties on the web. Go in there and look around and check it out a great new website. Actually one of the things we brought some palace was we changed softwares. Which is always painful. Anytime you change software and then. We did a new website to go along with that. So it's the website address it's Son palace vacations dot com. That's pretty straight forward. Everything's on there and all the availability. It's all real time. Lots of pictures really get an idea of what what you're coming into the prices on there and everything out the door by the way folks if you pictures of inside the different homes so people can see how that for all the houses if you wanna go to our beach talk radio news website big banner for them and you can click right through there and and jump on there and and say hi to everybody and see some of the pictures and anything else we can do bob. I mean really appreciate you. Buying those books. I mean patrick was so great on the show and He didn't such an awesome job with the mount house book. And it's so nice there should be. You know you wanna have local books like that or other things. I'm sure there are other things that maybe magazines or these to be a newspaper or whatever that you have in your and your room when you come to the beach because it's such a unique beach and we love it here and that's that's super cool for people. Now you want to be a good place to visit but you also want to be a good place to live. And i was just really impressed with the steps. The town took early on. And there's an old picture of anita and ray in there. They look a little bit younger. Really all right. These guys went out on a limb to to get the mound house property. Sure degree job with that kind of stuff. So by the way. If you think that putting one hundred twenty-five these in your properties. I won't even charge you anything. I'm kidding about that. But all right bob. I'm done a great job. But i'll thanks a real void after the sandpaper folded into. He did a great job. Local news. local government always needs good critic symbolic. That's my wife sometimes gets a little crazy with that stuff. But i've got gotta tell you. I was the mayor of nags head for four kidding. How was how was it. How was that it was it was interesting. You get a lot of calls from from residents when you're elected a few. Yeah there you go mostly good listener. Do people call you and say bob. You're doing a hell of a job. Rarely rarely double their property taxes so we had a second. who's that. Wow look it anita. Sarah syed always with the hair of flow. Wow and who else is in their way. I don't know if you can see that. We're definitely taking a picture of that and putting it up there. That is pretty cool. That's who were the other folks. I don't even know who the other folks are. That's ray ted. Wow that's pretty cool. Mayor of nags said. Maria says wow mayor of nag said so. Very nice very cool. Thanks for doing that bob. And thanks for being part of the show and enjoyed it anytime. You wanna come on man. Just give us a call and we'll bump guests for you no matter who it is so thanks a lot on a great job. Thank you bob. Oakes everybody that as a crowd going wild artificial crowd. You're going to hear it all the nfl games today and tomorrow and before we get to our ten o'clock segment as she did she steal my yes. She stole mind. You stole my. We've got we're gonna. I'm gonna read an ad. Because you know i really like reading. Ed's bob a super cool there. You're touching me a lot today. And i'm i i really like that. I'm not used to it so island oils llc. I know you use it. And i use it and i have an ad here to re. I should have it memorized by now because Away go ahead say something why we've got oils. They knicks natural oils to repel no see'ums mosquitoes. They smell smells awful. Also have the after bite so if you get if you do get bit get there in time you can do the roll line. Let's takes the sting out right. It's one hundred percent oil. did you say that. I didn't say one hundred percent. You can go on island oils. 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We have to talk about the putting pub crawl that was canceled and roger just basically took ten thousand dollars away from all the community organizations that we're going to try to put money back in their pocket so stay tuned for that after stu joins us but go ahead dear so still man. Welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. I have to. I have to ask you question jer. So i i'm guessing you don't realize what time he goes to bed. Oh yeah this is this is. This is going to be a point of contention. No it's not going to be a point of contention me alone. Man no went. I never was the first thing you think when somebody calls your phone at one o'clock in the morning twelve o'clock holy shit. Somebody died. who died. get the phone. Somebody died. I i never. You're on your on his phone but it does not ring and then it rang twice. And and then i. I'm sorry but i was like cool. Is this like. Should i call them. Back is in an emergency or it was and so. I just have to say anything after that. I got up the next morning. And i said to him who calling you a warrant was a this. Oh share stu. It's probably stacey something rather stacey from from state farm or whatever that commercial was south and she's got a good alibi. It was me anyways. I will let you guys get to and greg coming on in greg's coming in here to all right just drinking. Oh you were over at his house at night. Time was it. It was time was not of consented. Know what time was kept. You're saying all right. So greg everybody knows. Greg gaz knee. Let me fix the camera. So there's more of you in less than me now do this. I think this is the first time you've been on the show here and not your son see sons usually on. We'll get you guys on the orient. You guys are the stars. Tell everybody here that are nine listeners and followers what you do wherever you left so. I'm a fugitive investigator right. We chase Violent offenders and people wanted for crimes against persons gangs guns drugs. Rape-murder that kind of deal. I've a history radio now back into radio and I'm the host of a show called patriotically. Correct syndicated out of minneapolis. Saint paul area and so we do the we do the social media thing up until now which you jump off. Facebook hero probably gets But you know we're on twitter and facebook also on a bunch of different networks anywhere that you can find a podcast as well and then. We're live on iheartradio monday through friday at six. Pm eastern and greg. You've been on a few times. Stu has been gracious enough to let me come on his show and rant and he's a heck of a contributor yeah tribute. i'm on. The fort myers beach based radio contributor. So who is the other guy that you have on your show with you. Because i've i've watched like the beginning of the show a few times. And i've never seen the guy say anything pretty much monopolize all the time at the beginning. Get get it. All of richard. Richard is very valuable to me. Because richard is a purple heart recipient combat wounded war veteran. He's currently in the army. He's partner at work also and his insight although be overwhelmingly abundant is always Incredibly valuable right all right so. I don't think it would be out of line to say that you are in the conspiracy. Theory camp of the election was stolen. I've been i've been told that. And you know the conspiracy. Theory is is really this. We're going to suppress an investigation from happening. So if if the election wasn't stolen then why the resistance to audit the votes while the resistance to to check to make sure why why the cut and run and blocking and deleting and silencing makes you look really guilty i mean what did the mob do when when the mob had somebody that was going to tell on them. They killed them. They put them in the bottom of the river. They put them in orange groves. They come up. They silenced them. So the silencing just makes makes the left look terrible when when the some folks say that all the court challenges that have come up have resulted nothing substantial. There's some of Shenanigans going on in every election after all the democrats complain that the two thousand sixteen election was stolen. And here we are doing the same thing in two thousand and twenty so when when folks say that there's just not enough to overturn an election. You're not buying that listen. You had a democratic senators like a worthless feckless Amy klobuchar from from minnesota. Saying two years ago. This dominion stuff is compromised. It was legitimately used to steal elections in venezuela on behalf of shop as why we were using it in. The first place is beyond me. Because you're right. We did know about this two years ago as far as the court challenges are concerned. These things haven't been dismissed a ruled against. They haven't been looked at because they weren't brought by the appropriate party for example in arizona. A dod official who was very aware of fraudulent ballots. Being on an airplane in our country from somewhere overseas disseminated throughout the country admits this on tape but this lawsuit was dismissed because the person who brought it wasn't a valid arizona voter. But what difference does that make. Why are the networks backtracking and some of the media backtracking on the way they criticized the that That company on their on their ballots A lawsuits why are they backtracking on that. After they've told them that there's nothing nefarious going on there backtracking because of money. Power control compliance and relevancy. They're never going to be. They'll be gone just like twitter is gone just like parlor is about to be gone. These these media groups are all funded by the same six or seven billionaires and and big box stores major corporations from all over the country. They're going gonna lose access to the president. Should it be either one trump or biden lose access to them if they're opinionated in that regard so they're really stabbing themselves in the back with this deal because when you run away from the truth when you're not courageous enough to actually dive in. I believe that you lose. You lose all credibility you believe. Trump won the election in a landslide. You bought your both crazy. I don't see in a landslide anyway. But anyway what dominion does or the reason that these people are going back on his dominions threatening huge litigation right. And they don't have to be right. You don't have to be right to threaten years and years and years lawsuits. That are extremely expensive and places like newsmax. We we used to watch newsmax the cave cave. They don't want the lawsuits they don't want the litigation it too expensive. So let's move on to what happened this past week The storming of the capital Thankfully these these thugs that iran into the capital or sitting and pelosi's desk or breaking windows or doing whatever they were doing stealing things. I i hope they find every single one of them and they rot in prison. Because you just can't. The the united states of america can't be seen to the world that way the we can't be doing that. That's not an i know people the cockamamie Argument about well. What about portland and what about the other cities. Well that was them. And this shouldn't be us. We shouldn't be acting the way where claiming they acted. And there you go and don't tell me that it was it was there was no trump supporters that went in there. Nobody's buying that nobody's buying. Sa none i mean. That's that's a very argument deseo. There's not well again. I think that that those actions were spurred on and it gets be group mentality right those extra spurred on by people who are not trump supporters. And there's and there's plenty of videos out there of trump's supporters trying to knock clubs out of people's hands when they're trying to break in. Stop these people from doing that right. So it's not passed the realm of common sense to think that people who are opposed to trump weren't they're trying to instigate and break into the capital. Even though i don't even though. I don't believe that i'll give you that if you're an adult and your republican conservative and you see you claim that you're smarter than the other side the minute you get to those steps your ass better turning around or you just like. You're you're the other side that were all bitching about in portland or black lives matter. Whoever the group is go ahead whether it's black lives matter and tif trump supporters the f. Around boys or whatever they call themselves there are one hundred groups cunanan or whatever you know all these people out here you know what you know. What the one thing is that. They all have in common. They are disenfranchised americans and they all feel like they've been cheated out of something. America the real enemy to americans are the elected representatives that we have sent their who have turned their backs on americans who were angry enough to to do the unthinkable on the sixth and part of me says i applaud that you know but you applaud storming the capital. I mean in a in a in a certain sense. I do now. The destruction of property and a stealing of things in the violence and things like that. And i think we're above that but at what point does does america say and i mean it sounds controversial but listen five years ago. If we would have talked about. This people would have told us that we needed medication. The these fringe thoughts. That people like you and on. We're talking about two years ago. And i'm not a follower of q but these people were talking about these very things bernie. Sanders was talking about very fringe thing like socialism in america. Now these things are mainstream conversation and so to talk about violence and the way to get our country back and being left with only one thought. People really do believe this. They're desperate for the sake of their kids. They were talking about different things in my my mind. If you're going to organize a revolution than organizer revolution and don't storm the capital and act like a bunch of assholes this same regard. You can't flip. Because he was the result of that. What do we what was the what was what. What benefited from that. Those people are going to jail. I trump trump is getting one hundred percent of the blame and and it it gave unfairly by the way and it. Also you know again. I'm going to jump on the conspiracy. Theory background bandwagon. A little bit but it gave the cowardly senators who were going to stand up to have the votes challenge out gave laughlin out like the again. Trump came there in to georgia campaign for lawler and she went up there and says i'm not i'm not gonna i'm not gonna contest. Because of what happened today. Gave him out. So i voted for trump twice. I believed in his policies. What happened last night last week. Totally was against anything that i thought could happen in this country and it not only tarnished his legacy because he did egg them on he might have told him told on guys percent. He said march to the capitol. He didn't say march on the capital. People are working crackpots. We're going to peacefully march. The capital where his exact quote was literally dance of exactly what he waited. How long before he cried about the election and then said calm down he should have done it right away. Get out of the building. This isn't what i said right away. When he saw the first bill. I window cracked instead his his. His family is partying. When this shit's going on that's not true. I know it was before it was beforehand. He was just watching the rally but But you're already you're already got people that are just looking for something to bury you with. And he gave it to them on a silver platter. No he didn't the media gave it to you one hundred percent but you guys know lying but you guys know. That's that's the those are the goal lines that the that's the field we're operating in the media. Yeah so keep giving them giving them trump keep throwing chandler. You'd back down to them. You do nothing. What he should have done was not how to rally on that day. He should have rally on inauguration day somewhere else and he should've kept the the momentum going for himself if he was going to run again. Now here's what we have. We have impeachment crap on monday. So we're not going to go through. You have people asking pence. He stabbed in the back and stem back. My god you guys are bananas now. The most loyal soldier at of all of them he stabs him in the back. and now. but i'll come on and now we have a senate we lost. We have the house sets democrat and we have a democratic white house. That's his legacy. Who's going to repair that. I'm trying to look ahead to twenty twenty two twenty twenty four and you guys are stuck in on the realm of reality that between now and twentieth were still looking at the involvement of the military. The insurrection yes totally. That's totally tinfoil. Thinking nothing is going to happen. How about communism in america is that is that tinfoil thinking no. I don't think that's no i don't. I don't think it'll happen before the twentieth. I don't think we'll be communist country before the twentieth. Are we not now. Okay so i don't feel like i am. I'm this florida between saturday. And now i've lost over thirty thousand followers on twitter. Why because they took him away from it. You didn't okay. Gotcha well twitter's twitter woman in here telling me that she's a. She's a relatively small account. She has a thousand followers on twitter. She's now only has four hundred. She's lost six hundred a conservative voice of pro-police voice appro pro america voice a patriotic voice of freedom democracy individual liberties anything that goes against the grain of control and compliance by big government and big tech big media and big corporations okay billionaires is going to be silenced and deleted that is communism here. It's not true it's when the government stamps down on your free speech. Twitter is not a part of the government now they may be a liberal arm of what you say what you ate media. But they're but they're a private company and they can tell everyone to flip off to protections from the federal. That's right that's right that's right. I didn't believe in that. The president went on twitter and put out three videos. One of them saying go home. We need to protest. In pieces is wrong and twitter. Frigging took him down right immediately so say that he didn't try to go out and do something he that's where he pushes his message through twitter. He goes on twitter. Gives his message saying hey listen this is wrong. We don't need to be storm capital. We need to go home and be peaceful. We follow making it. Sound like he he. He's a he. Your video ideas very impassioned. He put it on there and they took it down. They said it was inciting violence. Okay well that's when he went on and started off by complaining about the election and then said calm down. I love you go home. It doesn't it you can't. You can't say that the election was stolen over. It's over five years. Since he came down the escalator. What would be our first lady. Yeah five years. He has been fought against not only by democrats or republicans as well. They're supposed to be in his party. They have lied about him. They have done everything they can to stop on him. They i mean look. I agree with all that russia. I agree with of that. Russia hoax that ukrainian phone call a phony impeachment and when he says all those things are phony they are the evidence. Is there there. I agree with that. So it all started with the debate where he's interrupting one hundred and some forty one times or whatever it was. Well he's on. I think it recovered from that though with. That's fine but people are like well. He's acting responsible. He's being immature. He's a loud mouth is this. he's a bully. He's not fully. he's defending himself and he has to defend himself and has the right to defend this country and everything that stands for. So you're trying to. I'm trying to get her attention. Guys want to be by the way before we have blue moon. Blue moon to boone's terry two balloons. I know you're waiting on my wife's there so after all of that. Here's here's my theory. I don't think i think if it wasn't for the corona virus he would have won in a landslide and there wouldn't be wouldn't even be having this conversation but the other thing i think that is. Why stop counting three. Am can you tell me that. In the history of our elections have they ever once stopped counting the answers. I don't know all that i just. I just think that georgia stop counting again at exactly the same time. How by the how. How ironic is it. That warnock won by the same same exact number of votes in fulton county that donald trump statistically impossible hundred and twenty thousand ballots. Come in at one time. One hundred percent of them for joe biden. You couldn't go and stand in this line right now and find twelve people in a line that would also that they were voting for joe biden one hundred and twenty thousand consecutively. It statistically impossible to say that we wear tin foil hats conspiracy theory not on every subject. I'm just make more not on every subject. I just don't i just. I'm not buying all of what you're saying that's all i just think that it's hard to believe. I think that if all of that was true it would have gotten out. It would have gotten out and you're you can't tell me that it's one hundred percent people trying to keep that kind of stuff hidden. I just don't think with as many followers as not everybody not everybody that is in In those counties that are counting the votes r biden supporters. Have scott would bring it out. You can suppress something that they go to. Someone like georgia you taylor secretary state. Hey you're you're you're you're election systems are screwed up your your processors up. Only thing he's going to do is be defensive. He's not gonna do anything about it and that's what we have here. They're not going back. They're not doing odd. It's not doing any you talked about. Legal battles okay. How can you fight a legal battle when the courts are corrupt. That you're bringing it to how can you. How can you put something out in the media when the media is corrupt bringing it to when everybody is corrupt including the people that are closest to you stabbing you in the back. How can you be effective. And that is who surrounds trump everybody with the exception of his family and maybe a couple of other trusted people. Everybody has turned on him. They've cut and run and they have stabbed him in the back. There are actual emails between all ryan and mike pence talking about removing him. Possibly killing him if you if you really read them you can hand them right to. And they're going to need to take big swigs of these things. I is there anything right with this country to. Yes there is what is it. What is right is that there is a huge huge fire. Being stoked at the base of the patriotic heart of americans. That is that is it. You cannot extinguish it and there. There are more americans including democrats. I'm not talking about the seventy five eighty five million people that voted for donald trump. I'm talking about americans who love this country. Democrats love this country too. I know a lot of them. I know a very a very large number of same level headed democrats who oppose all of this. They are pissed off as hell that this thing was so blatantly. And obviously fraudulently stolen raked. Their votes went for biden. But they don't want him to win if this was the pretense and those people are equally as disenfranchised as anybody else. And so what's happening. Here is the shedding of light on. Where the real evil is the real enemy. Are those people who have enriched themselves at the cost of you and i and our freedom and our individual liberties and they're being identified and when you shine the light on cockroaches they scatter. That's the positive it's coming out of us and that would still. That's what still remains good in america. I'm gonna make more simpler than that. More people hated hillary clinton than hated joe biden. And that's why trump won the first time it was kind of like a Let's try this out kind of thing and there were some buyer's remorse at the beginning but then he started to implemented Some things that we all could get behind and we thought okay we could deal with another four years of this and the guy went off the rail. Quincy well i let you go. Let me let me just finish. And then and then. I want to hear what you have to think about it. And then he just he he could not and i know you all are going to say because that's just the way it is if you can't even play in the sandbox a little bit so that you can get enough votes to win the next four years then this is what happens. He did not comply in any way to fit into the box. Where the independence or the people on the fence would say okay. I feel like. I'm getting a decent paycheck. What he promised that he was going to do. Any went to washington in his inauguration. Speech where he screwed up is when he said i'm we are taking the power back and we're taking it away from dc and giving it back to the people get over. Never going to happen. Never going to happen because he told the truth you know. He's never been a politician. Never will be. But what i'm going to ask you as you brought up hillary clinton. Would you agree that she is one of the most prolific politicians in the world absolutely should be imprisoned That aside and love or hater you would agree that she's one of the most well known politicians nelson okay Barack obama still remains probably the most popular person in the world. Right and you would agree that he also is more popular right. Yeah now joe. Biden is was not really a household name. I mean everybody knew him as the former vice president some people. Did you go out and interview people on the street. Asking the vice president is now a lot of people who struggle sadly. We're supposed to believe that. Joe biden got more votes than hillary clinton more black votes than barack obama. We're supposed to just believe that. I don't know if you can believe it or not. Mind silly but my be wearing the tin foil hat but my theory is that enough people hated donald trump. They came out. That's how much he got them to hate them. And that's probably more people in the war for years ago and the the mail in ballots created more votes. And so why you had all these extra votes. I honestly believe that less people hated joe biden. They're not happy that That we have joe biden a lot of people are but they really disliked hillary clinton to the point where trump won and. That's that's how simple. I think it isn't able bitch but you know here's the deal. Here's how this can be disproven okay. This can be disproven by the physical gathering of the crowds. Agree with you though but it means you azam behind talk about who hated who loved you. Got forty five thousand. No doubt i mean there will never seen it never seen before my life a parade for a for made no sense to me. It never seen it before. Tell me how he lost. He lost because i don't believe okay. Well let's see okay. so how. how do we get out of this. I mean we can't be living in a democratic world for the next report or patriot will never win a fair election ever again. Come on come on think. That's because that you know why my opinion is because trump has totally taken. He sucked the life at everybody. There's not any he. There was no succession planning at those rallies. I saw there was no editor. Good people who live smart politically than you know. Who's going even if you're going to be in free years sort. Been the next person. Well you would think pants would have a chance. But he stabbed him in the back and he doesn't even have a chance to who's who's a front runner for the republican italy. There's going to be a republican party instead. Gop has been buried in the narrative out of this has done and it's been born the patriot party. And and i think that it's going to be a legitimately funded third party that is going to take this world by storm. You watch. i mean there isn't. There's another fringe conspiracy theory tinfoil hat type way of thinking but you who's left in the gop who's left for republicans. I mean they're week. they're absolutely week. Well they are. Now the democrats are they had their their their establishment. People have somehow made themselves multimillionaires seven or eight elaborate homes around the country and world. Who are elitist. Sure they don't even believe in what they're saying about this corona virus bs and they've proved that with their actions by sneaking around without masks going out and dining and groups larger than what they deem is acceptable. And safe for you. I and they're using the fear emotion to move crowds of people into compliance and control while they themselves are traveling about the free world. That's free to them. Only great have a lot done. It's good no right. Agree with sue staying and i'm a republican conservative as you can get your shit and the way. The way that i'm looking at it is this is politics. I don't. I don't wrap my life around a single politician. I don't trust politicians whether their local and they lie to you or their national and they lie to you because at the end of the day just like trump he only cares about himself only gets now for the longest time he cared about the country toward the end there. It was only about himself and he screwed everybody in his path. Now you can say that people or stabbing him in the back. And i look at the other way like he's put them all in a position where they have no choice. I don't i don't think you should be impeached. Just let them run as courson stop screwing the country man all their school in the country today. Guys here's the deal. He he just needs to go away. He just needs to go away. Never run again. Never run again because it's not to happen. I hope it happens. He's just because he's a he's a clown the guy has become a clown unfortunately often and hit your head over when you're great but nobody has any respect for the country anymore. You can't take credit through. I know a lot of people in the national community and out of everybody that i know in the international community all of them. Say all of them say that. They are depending on america's herschel and believe in that and because if we fall if we go dark this country will be the darkest for sure country ever in the history cheryl for sure so i mean he to believe then genocides and all those things but the hardest thing for me is to watch us become a laughing stock that we have this last week and they're all in the center of it but i want to go away. I know it'll go away. He goes away. It'll go away obvious telling you to believe exactly and second. i don't have cable. I don't need the media to tell me anything. Stu i don't use the internet. I do. Who told you that. We're the laughing stock of the world is streaming up while you're hundred miles an run. I hate running. I my impression from watching what i watched. Last week was man. This is this is. This is if we're going to have a revolution then. Let's organize i'm all for that. But that's not a revolution but you're not that well if if that was the case then you would have been in dc. Right if you're saying. I'm out of trump fan. I just agitator amata not getting behind the trump revolution. I'm getting behind his ideas. But the guy's a clown he's an ass class not true so again he was elected because he's going to drain the swamp he knew it. But again swamps. Dna happen ten more terms. He could have ten more terms. He could have forty years in office and that even begin to scratch the surface of the swamp as global swamp. Here's your all. Were all judged by results right. I'm judged by what kind of numbers i can send to the advertisers or whatever blah blah blah. Here are the results as we look at them. Now we don't have the presidency. We don't have the senate we don't have the house and we all it was stolen you've we mob scene capitol hill and gave them more. Listen like i said it doesn't matter if it was antifa. Black lives matter patriots. A lot of people will will. I will get crucified by my base by saying that that it doesn't matter because so yes it does matter because it wasn't that trump people in it wasn't it doesn't matter. They were disenfranchised americans as what they were. They were upset okay but you cannot convince me that these people were all trump supporting maga- patriotic republican conservatives. Saying they were not saying but there were dumb enough to when they got to the summit. Let's say fifty percent. I believe was probably ninety nine percent. Let's say was fifty percent the minute you get to the first step of of that of that building you turn around and go back. I'm gonna do. I know her name. Yes no. I don't know her name. If it was a black guy shot by a white copied know his name. I would i. Would you have an air force veteran who served our country whose shot in the capital unprecedented history-making and you have no idea what her name. Okay you also is not talking about okay. You also have capital police officer. That got killed five. People got killed. And i don't know his name either. Yeah so yeah travesty. That's what that's the politics is now all right. So you're in the most hall for person in the united states by the way he did. I don't even know who that is you should. I'm just so pissed off that that that trump's step pence in the back. Because he's i think he's he's a good guy but if you wanna be mad at me on a consistent basis all the patriotic radio show airs. Monday through friday at six. Pm eastern you can find us on every social media site right now. I'm at real stu. Peters that's s. t. e. w. peters. He gets kicked off kicked off. Which is already happening so twitter parlor gab parlor of i love it i love it when all of a sudden everybody gets pissed off that facebook is doing this in. Twitter is doing that and so they go to these little sites that nobody's nobody's on and over to here is about and then now they get fifteen people. What are you guys doing with this phone number thing. What does that signal single. What the hell is that now. Getting off facebook. Facebook signal is a secure text. Messaging app that i've been using for years. I'm just encouraging people. Why because apple taking your information and it's still on facebook seeing what i'm chatting i don't want the government also on cloud hub and you can find touto told you do need to get on the interwebs if you can find your podcast so apple lets see iheart pandora spotify those patriotically correct and make sure that you download that app to the so. You said you're on every night on iheart. Monday through friday yes Were live our lives show on iheartradio is at six. Pm eastern Search the station mojo five. Oh all right. Thank you still coming on. It's always fun. It's always going to see your family and Maybe you'll invite me on your show someday. And i don't know i will fit into the cruel because they don't go along with what you say like greg. Does he kiss her. And i don't know how you guys do. The folks do the graphics in the back of they got the american flag flowing. It's so pretty with the way they do that. Teach you a little bit and auto thank you. Thank you guys for coming on. Appreciate it very much all right. Everybody that is to peter's greg asni. I mean greg all right come on back. We need to talk about something really important. Not that storming the capitals not important at all but you know they had the the putting pub thing he jig plan for your on their test it out okay. Now you're on my three. They had the putting pub crawl Local now everybody. So if you're i. Want the leading the affiliates. No down the line that we're back to the the local conversation as are the Which is usually a fundraiser for like ten community organizations Let me read them all. Go ahead say something. i'm trying to file my paypal. The disorganized friends over here their son works for delta and so we were talking about flying and and then they were in a hurry to go has their parking was going to expire. And i said oh well. Don't you have that app. The passport and they said yeah they do. But you can't use it to re up your parking. And i'm like well that makes no sense. What would be so you can just pay once. And that's it and then they said because there's the two hour limit they have to no matter what. Go back move their car to another park. No my god. That's s. And i can only pay for two hours and then you move your spot too. What if there's no other spot. That's the dumbest thing ever heard. Except it saves you going to the to the little meaner thing but the point like i think in naples you just keep putting money in the money and but because it was a two hour limit or you told the story twice now so the organizations that the putting pub crawl benefit every year and they had a corporate sponsor this year. And i understand that you can't you can't do the holes outside and i mean i get all that but the fort myers women's club the community foundation the beach lions The library the wonder gardens your favorite place. The art association lovers key the pto internal time. And i think the art that. I mentioned the art association. I wanna make short. I don't leave anybody out so they usually race. I don't know ten fifteen thousand dollars and they kinda split it amongst the organization's hanging. Oh people play putt. Putt and they drink and they donate money and then they get drunker so they donate more money. Which is a great concept. Because you know once you get to the eighth raffles raffles the whole thing. So we're going to do is where we decided instead of just complaining that roger wouldn't give him the permit and my idea. My thought was instead of just saying no. You can't permit. couldn't you just say to them. Listen don't have the holes in the right away and maybe can do this or that. But let's try and keep some semblance of this great fundraiser alive so that you can raise some amount of money for the organization's instead of just you know saying you can't do it at all. You can't have the permit am sticking it back in my drawer here. Because i'm king roger And so we just decided that we were going to come up with a modified version of it which involves no golf and involves social distancing and involves mask wearing. But we're going to go from bar to bar. In all of the holes that were originally scheduled will be the bars that are participating in that is nervous. Nellie yucatan peach timeout anger. Rita's la ola. Salted cramped the mermaid shockers in matanzas. And we're going to start at eleven o'clock at nervous. Nellie he's and there were. You know we're gonna grab everybody's cash. i'm going to put it in a fishbowl. And we're going to go to the next one and we're going to spend a little money so we still want to spread some money out so bring a lot of singles. Bring a lot of fis. Bring a lot of fans bring your checkbook. I'll have my thing the credit car. What was the member we used to do that for. Flex the square. I'll take your credit card. And i'll just take your credit card and give it back to you on monday if that's what you wanna do and the guys at the fort myers tiki tours. Were nice enough. Do you have the bucket ready. Where is the bucket. She's got one job ladies and gentlemen one job. We're going to hold that we're going to pick a place where we can give away ninety minutes on the fort myers tiki tours. And what i asked my wife to do you know she before. She had put her lipstick on was to put all the cards together. And we're going to do the drawing for the ninety minutes at that location and give the give the tore away so we're going to have one of the kids wanna stews kids. Come on over. Come on down guys and you're gonna first. We need you to pick out something out of this bucket all right. Here's where we're going to give away the ninety minute tour on fort myers tiki tour. Go ahead dear enough already. Let's see what you got. This is where we're going to do the drawing luck region capable of cheating. You cheat every year. You come on the show you cheat like that. Why did you do that all right. We're oh you gotta sugar all right. You know there was a guy here this morning. Who put five sugars in. His coffee was totally discussing and one piece of paper at one piece of paper and it is the mermaid. Yes so we're gonna pull the winner out for the. Can you shut the heater off. Finally it's like seventy degrees out here. I feel a sweat running down my pits. How you guys doing all right so Tell everybody this is your third appearance on the show. What do you guys names. No nolan what do you li- what's up with your hair man. What happened there. You having a bad hair day you forget the comb or something. Look at your hair. They're looking at is here is here's perfect and he's got a hat on what's up. What's your brothers hair well. He's got a big hockey for their water hockey. What hockey slow always got hockey flow. I don't know what that means. Is that you find on twitter or something or hockey here. Jeff hockey game last night they gotta talk into the mic or you just to look into the camera. I mean you look at for girls. or something. to talk into the microphones. all right. you have a girlfriend now no not yet you too young for that you have a girlfriend yes oh nice How old are you nine so six. What's your girlfriend's name ruby. Yeah that was my mom's name no it wasn't my robots vanna oh savannah your girlfriend's name savannah we'll be. Oh you have two girlfriends okay. Cool all right. So what are you guys doing your down here for. How long We were down here for a week and smaller. Leaving and louis here last saturday. Do you does. Your dad have tin foil hats at the house. Does he have collection of tinfoil hats now. Have you ever saw. You're seeing your dad. Were a tin foil hat now. No do you know that. Your dad's a little loud out there with the craziness stuff or do you guys did you guys for trump. Yes yes did you. Did you think the election was stolen. Yes oh how come you thought. The election stolen biden put his he. He voted for himself. Voted from self. That son of a bitch. I hate when people. Oh sorry. I mean to say that in front of the kids. So you're a big. You're not a big biden fan now. Why you're you're free to socialism white. People i'm going to have to edit that part out alright so hockey you like hockey. Do you play a lot hockey you guys. Yeah yeah do you play you. Play any other sports Mice ball baseball. I'm a big baseball. I play t-ball. Yeah you guys gonna watch the football games. Maybe who's your favorite football player off at the same time. Nobody can hear what you're saying. Would your favorite player packers. Okay awesome so yeah green. Bay's got a good team this year. All righty or anything else you want to tell your girlfriend or your fans or anything smile and finally guys guys kiss yet not answer that. It's good to have you hold hands at all now. How much money is your dad. Make how much you're thinking hundred thousand two trillion trillion. That's a lot. Wow all right guys. Thank you so much for coming on the show and have a safe trip back to. Where do you live again and wedding. Minnesota minnesota yeah all righty. What was a pleasure having you on. Will you be back next year for year number four. Yes okay four number four right. Thank you guys. You fix your hair. Go to calm or something. They'll go kart career. Thank you guys. All right stews kids they're lovely kids a everybody. You should have a couple if you have a chance so this book the yeah super nice book everybody. Well you know we ran a little over today and sometimes when you're over things happen that really shouldn't happen but it was a lovely show and you know we should have do on more often like maybe once a year. No i know a lot of people feel the way Those guys do and there's doing it. I just want to I like to get the conversation out there. I was over there. Hobnobbing or i could see us. Kids say the darndest things. All right everybody We're signing off. From the milky white. America here on fort myers beach and you all have a lovely weekend and we'll see you sometime soon hopefully.

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"The Three Disappointments"

The Tony Kornheiser Show

1:10:59 hr | 2 months ago

"The Three Disappointments"

"Previously on the tony kornheiser show. I was pretty happy. Pre swing thought trying to keep your Lifting so i Not dropping the club. Not my body so i had a really good time. First time i played in a very long time. I had a really good. I am and twenty twenty one. Yeah yeah well. The day. Before i went out and played two holes triple-triple. It's not a good start. It's the way rory mcilroy starts on sundays at tournaments. Now triple-triple can i put is water on this. Let me try and put. This is general george washington. You're listening to the tony kornheiser. So what. I'm reminded of the fact that when we did go out it was extremely cold and i was in forty-seven different layers in the last couple of days in washington. Dc for those of you. Who don't live here. it's been delightfully warm. Even sort of oddly warm. It has been in the sixties. It's going to be seventy tomorrow. Hit seventy yesterday. Did it okay. And it's oddly. You get this every march but there is a humidity to it. There's a tease to it. Because if you ahead on. The weather apps starting on monday and tuesday of this coming week. The lows are below freezing and there is that there is that icon for snow on monday and tuesday in washington dc. I don't expect there to be significant accumulation of snow but there is some notion that there would be sleet and there would be freezing rain and it would so this is the teas that always happens and it it will be in conjunction of course with that really bad three weeks when you go to daylight savings time and what you're used to. Seeing at a given hour in the morning you will not see any more. You'll just see dr morning drive now. I don't think the teas when you get this in the middle of march. We normally get this in february. That is a tease okay. But but i'm saying we're going to revert back for days. Yeah it's going to be dreadful and it's going to cause me anxiety although to be fair if it didn't happen it would have caused me. Excitedly live in high anxiety. Big-driving remember that song mel brooks high society. Why did he work at the institute for the very very nervous or something like that. Just so i wanted to. I wrote something down. I wrote something down the other day and this these are things that i may never have talked about on this show. I mean never have talked about these things we were talking about. The ali frazier fight at some length. And i honestly thought those of you who've listened to the podcast longtime maybe. Maybe you would think. I'm wrong but i felt mondays. Podcast with wilpon and bilas was tremendous because it was that rare. Podcast where both people who we brought on were just totally conversational and fluid and there was no agenda and it was really easy to do and to listen to so i really like the podcast but it got me to thinking because we talked at length with mike about ali frazier fight. That was. I've had very few disappointments in my career as a newspaper writer. That's i was. I was a newspaper sportswriter. And i've had very very few disappointments and they tended to come in the beginning as happens to people when they're young. They haven't established themselves their their talents. Their abilities may be known by a small group of people but not to the newspaper at large. Not anybody making assignments. And i had three things i wanted to do in my life. Three things came along when i was at newsday. This didn't happen to me at the new york times. I pretty much got everything. I wanted at the new york times because they went and they hired me and it didn't happen at the washington post because they went and they hired me so if i said i'd like to do this whatever. This was a really good chance of being able to do except for the masters from the masters put in. It's okay. I never i did the. Us open and was okay. And i went to augusta number of searching for hot water over at saint george's bridge as well. Well we had the hot water. Junior had no water. We took we appropriated all the water. But if i wanted to do something. I would say look. I'd really like to do this. And because i was there higher i was able to do it but newsday though i was newsday's higher i came in as a high school sports writer. I came in at the bottom of the rung. The last rung on the ladder. I came in that so there were three different things that in my life i really wanted to do. And for whatever reason. And probably. Because i wasn't good enough i couldn't do them. I wanted to do the ali. Frazier fight you know. i wanted. I wanted something like that. I'd in there for an hour at that point and i wanted to do. The ali frazier fight not to the main story to do what we called in the newspaper. Business a sidebar. A small little story. Because i wanted to see it. I wanted to be there. And i need an excuse to be there and i was not on. The list are lead. Boxing writer was bob waters. Who was a great sturdy. Curmudgeon of an old man. And he's the guy who had the bottle of scotch in the bottom drawer on the right at his desk. He was that guy. Was that prototypical. Archetypal guy bob waters and he did it and the columnist was there and a couple of people outside bars and i was not chosen. I was not chosen to do it okay. That was a disappointment. The second disappointment was. I wanted very much to do billie jean king and bobby riggs in the astrodome. I wanted to do that. That was going to be three days of fabulous writing. And i wanted to do that. And that assignment was given to two people at my newspaper man and a woman. The woman was lynn rossellini. Who later went onto a great career. I believe at time magazine. Or newsweek writer. Lynn rossellini and the man. Who did it was my dear friend pete alfono and he was chosen over me to do that and he did a great job and i can't sit here now. Fifty years later. And tell you i would have done better. I can't i mean. And i love pete so as happy as i could be for pete. I was that he got that assignment and that became a front page story in newsday and i just was disappointed. I didn't get it. But that was the second one and the third one and this is the one that i think bothers me the most and i'll explain it to you. This was on the belmont stakes of secretary. I believe that was nineteen seventy-three secretary. It was going to become after the belmont university acknowledges the greatest source of all time but a lot of people thought secretary it was the greatest source of all time before the belmont. By the way he had won the derby beating sham by the way he had won the preakness beating sham and this was going to be their third race. And this was. This was on long island. Belmont park is half in queens and half in nassau county. And this was ours. We're newsday we're long island's newspaper. This is our deal. We're supposed to do this. One and the sports are the time. Was stan isaacs a man that i revered absolutely revered stan. Isaacs as a writer think he was with the greatest columnist. Just about that. I ever read and i grew up reading stan. Isaacs and stan had become the sports editor and he had planned this enormous blowout coverage to the belmont you. He had a food writer going. He had a fashion rider. Go and he had a political writer go and he had like nine to ten people going to do very specific stories for a conceptual. This was like sergeant pepper. This was the album for stan isaacs and and now i'm there three years. I'm pretty good at this point. I'm not unknown. I was not asked to be part of it. And i stood about that. I was really upset about that. This is the first time. I've ever said that out loud to anyone to anyone. Now saying to who's ever listening standards no longer with us. But some of the people who i worked with that newspaper that time like joe gergen steve jacobson and johnson. And pete alfono there with us. And i've never said this to them and i just felt i got totally hosed. In this i watched. I watched that race at home and cheered like crazy for secretariat. Who who who broke shams heart like you know less than a quarter of a mile in and one by thirty lengths. It's the greatest. Triumph is the greatest triumph in a big race with great horses ever ever. I mean it was the coronation of secretariat and i. I wasn't there. I was at home. I was like you know in broadcast news when when aaron is just sitting home drinking and she comes over holly hunter comes over and they have that conversation. What do you think the devils go to look like. And he's upset because he didn't get an assignment he didn't get it. William hurt got it. He didn't get it and he said that was me sitting at home watching this thing on tv. Probably throwing things against the wall. I was really upset. And those are the only time i mean. There are other disappointments in my life. Don't don't get nuts but from a professional level. Those are three things. I wanted to do and get him. You're looking at me oddly. No when you started this. I really thought that it was going to be your complaining about where somebody placed you in the press box. You were unhappy to be sort of. Throw back left. No no these are things i yet. These are these are really interesting stories in there. All cultural moments more than just sport stories. You look at the third one. I want to be associated with them. You look at the sort of three sixty coverage that it's getting it would make sense somebody of your age and sort of still your niche profile. You but i'll found on johnson. We're probably there wasn't there so without fan. Were you actually reading every single day. Yes leading up to this. Were you underlining heading in my head but pizza's good for really good. Pete's really good so hard for you to admit now pizza really good. He's really good. Dan louks really good. He was on the paper at that point. But i you know these were those things where i said god. I'd like to be a part of that. Am i not good enough a mine. Not good enough now. It will be interesting. If i then said and i went on for the rest of my life to try to prove i was good enough that that didn't happen at all. I know i was good enough. I just didn't understand why they ignore was good. I've one email. I wanna read here because you did was the fourth disappointment. Not getting do that. Interview with andre agassi because rachel nichols beat you to that know that was no. I'd already seen andre agassi. i'd seen in vermont. I went to some tournament in vermont. When i was visiting stephen. Anita we've we went up there and no no no. The other ones are so small less to not be important but these were big. And if you don't think they were big. I've remembered him for fifty years so they were. They were big in my mind. It was like. Oh you're not good enough really thought i was. Here is a an an email that i just saw that. I'm going to read tony in the summer of nineteen sixty two. I was a waterfront counselor at a summer camp located about one north of beautiful downtown orson pennsylvania and then i went right to the bottom to see what was and i know this person. His name is dick. Can he was dickie. Cain when when we knew him i remember him distinctly what he looks like. He doesn't look like that now. But i know what he looks like goes for some reason. The powers that be at cuma had me bunk with a group of fourteen year old boys whose principal council it was a guy named larry brown. It was obvious that this guy would do okay as a basketball coach one day because by the end of the summer he had these boys consistently beating other teams of sixteen and seventeen year olds. I don't remember too many of the campers although two that stood out as being somewhat more intelligent than the rest were brent class. Tony kornheiser god. You had me at. Hello oh boy. In the mid nineteen ninety s someone forwarded me one of your washington post humor. Columns and i became an avid reader of them. Other washington wisconsin became an avid reader. Them particularly the sunday humor. Columns then came and i rarely miss an episode. May i suggest you check out. Some of the nba insights of the author of ariz basketball takes dot blogs spot dot com while the authors spelling syntax and grammar sometimes leave something to be desired. He really does seem to have a pretty good current grasp but the league and its players are is my grandson in that great. that's great. He turned ten in january chain. I remember him. i remember. He dated a girl named wendy. I am pretty sure they got married. I'm pretty sure. Dick and wendy. Cain were married. I don't know what happened. Obviously but i'm pretty sure about that. And i do remember wendy's in your young life. Yeah yeah i wendy schlesinger for example. I do remember dick cane very well. I didn't know he was a waterfront counter. I just thought he was a regular council. I don't remember that but this is for many of you. The connective tissue of this show works out and for me. This is one of those examples. How did this guy get to hear. How did he get to here. So this makes me very happy. We will take a break when we come back. Chuck culpepper who i believe is doing stories on gonzaga and on baylor and his out on the road will join us. I am tony kornheiser. You're listening to the tony kornheiser show. This is the policy genius. Said springy springing as we speak. And it's the perfect reminder to tidy up and get your life in order why not start by protecting your family with life insurance policy genius can help you compare top insurers and say fifty percent or more go to policy genius dot com in minutes. You can work out how much coverage you need and compare quotes to find your best price policy. Genius makes it easy to compare policies from as little as fifteen dollars a month. You might even be eligible to skip the in person medical exam since they're licensed agents worked for you and not the insurance companies. 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She wrote recently and thought you might enjoy it as well. It's called an we begin to dance. It's an original composition that is part broadway. Show stopper part power ballad. She is featured on vocals. Plays all the piano parts and wrote the lyrics as well. She produced it using garage band from the confines of her bedroom. Here's the kicker she's fifteen freshmen. The first song she's attempting. Michael you saying anything like this is joe wilson. She's fifteen stood this whole thing herself. What am i doing complaining about. Not covering secretary of nobel much. what am i stupid. Wow wow wow okay. She plays in chuck colpepper and chuck colpepper in spokane washington which is the home of gonzaga university and he has either been to or is going to waco texas which is the home of baylor university. And because i worked at a newspaper for a long time. I think he's going to write a story or two on the number one and number two overall seeds in the coming up. Ncaa tournament and you're in spokane. And i said wow how lucky of him he's in spokane. Gonzaga almost got beat. They were down in the second half and he got to see it and then nigel told me no. It didn't because that game was in las. Vegas and i said oh tony dope should have known how you have watched it. You must have had a certain envy saying. Oh my god if they lose. I would have been there i did. I had the feeling. And i you know standing outside a sports bar. That was twenty thirty thirty percent full. Whatever the stipulation is you know and and and thinking about what if this were packed you know wall to wall and then the loss came and the people were filing out and you know what would it be like to see that so everything is now you know measured against real life versus pandemic life and this was to did you did you watch. Did you think to yourself at any point. We must have thought this. Oh my god they're gonna lose. I can write tonight. I can write tonight. I'm here. I may not be there but i'm here i did. I thought about you know. Brigham brigham young has this Player named nell k. N. e. l. l. And he was just hitting everything in the first half. I think he will not with twenty points and i remember thinking about all. The headline writers are so excited about death knell death knell for gun saga so i did think but i didn't i didn't think it would. It would hold up the way they were shooting they. They had thirty two possessions in the first half and they scored on twenty two up. It's crazy yeah and the but the other thing was the comeback itself. It's just so it just happens so fast with these guys. It's almost like nothing. I've ever seen This just it. Just they just warmed over them and suddenly they have more more points than or they got to fifty seven all and then they're down nine and they did it again So their their offense is just really something so pat forty. We had him on a couple of weeks ago. And i asked him about gonzaga and this is a his exact words were they have the best offense in the country and i watched a little this last night. Not all of it. 'cause it's past my bedtime but i watched a little bit and i've seen them this year and correct me if i'm wrong. It actually looks like they have six guys on the court. Does they get the most open shots all the time. And you say to yourself well. They must be playing with an extra player because they are. They appear to be that good. Am i wrong. That's absolutely it. It's just it's it's like it's like an optical illusion or something like watching something that's that's it. Despite having watched an unhealthy amount of basketball through life is just. it's still unfamiliar. it's it just looks funny. I've never liked kazakova. I've always thought they were over. Praised is always thought they were over seated. I would point out as you. Well know chuck. They've only made the final four once. They've come in with the most glittering records fifteen times and they've only made the final four once and they've never won it and my criticism of them is the criticism that anybody would have. Which is you planning a lousy conference. You're unprepared for four tough games in a row of the six that you might have to play to win the tournament. Do you agree or disagree with that. I think usual. I think that's been true at times and not true at times for them. I think i look at that. Twenty nineteen team. That played this incredible forgotten west region final against texas tech. There was just too fantastic teams. And you know. I just sorta couldn't believe that a team is as tremendous as that gonzaga team was about to go out and let this time. I think at this time this time. I kind of think You know this is this is this seems different to me I don't. I actually don't expect them to. You know to win the national title. Just because of how the tournament is and how impossible to get through. And they're going to carry around the zero in their in their loss column. But but this time. I just see them. This time. If you played the tournament ten times. I do think they'd win at a couple of times. So i i think they're ready this time again. Good enough this time. I worry about the defense a little bit when you look at the point. Totals of the really good teams. They've played their kind of high. It's immortality if you get. The last one is bobby knight's indiana team in one thousand nine hundred seventy six. We've seen four teams since then three of which got to the final four one. Wichita state did not. We've seen four teams. Come in undefeated if you do it if you do it That that's absolute immortality right. It is oh sure. And because they've had these cancellations they're sitting on twenty six. You know if they do it. They'll they'll be exactly thirty two. In which is what indiana was. Yeah so i still think it'll be mortality. Now if kentucky had done it in two thousand fifteen when they got to thirty eight no they would have been forty. You know at the end that would have been some immortality but this thing yeah this thing still would be. it's They would. They would match thirty two. Oh it's kind of kind of funny that way because you know teams. Don't play just thirty two games anymore. I think a couple of ucla teams were probably thirty two and always well. That's my guess that they were thirty. Two and i it's interesting. You mentioned the the kentucky kentucky. Wisconsin was one of the two or three greatest games. I've ever seen on television. I was just so great. I mean that was right. I mean that was a great game. Oh god i go back and watch it every so often just to just to believe that it happened the way that it did which i still. Don't let me get to baylor my resentment for baylor obvious football school but it goes. It goes deeper than that for me. Baylor has had hara frying scandals that also had the loss of life. I'm i'm pretty sure about this in not in football but in basketball funk scandal of terrible treatment of women in football that cost process job and should have and somebody on the baylor team basketball team. Who is the coach bobby. Knight's assistance at one point. I wrote it down. Dave bliss i mean a might not right. That baylor has a chequered career. In terms of sports administration that is remarkably bad in the last fifteen years or my wrong. I would say the last. Let's see when you get when you go back to the dave list really r- in twenty years there okay. S it's been okay and those things are kind of seen with some other you know historic events in the in the town as as sort of things that are in the psyche and and are being recovered from. That's the whole the whole way of looking at it. You know you hear all the time and talk to people there the rebuilding job. That scott drew has done based on where they were. I think it's seventeen. Eighteen twenty years ago. The bliss thing The bliss abomination You know that it's seen now as part of the you know part of the impression that's left with what's going on now is sort of you know we're we're trying to redefine ourselves. How about the browse thing. That's a lot sooner. That's a lot grocer. I appreciate the fact that the women's basketball team has won national championships. And i appreciate that. Kim mulkey has gone up and grab the microphone and been very defiant about the school and about the team about all those other things. I appreciate that. Because she's from there. Well she's not from there i mean but she's been there a long time and she say terrific basketball coach but it these other things are also true they also happened they also happened right right and we have to think about them and we and we do think about when we think about baylor. I mean they are. They are in mind and the basketball one has gotten a bit distant now. the football one is not. I think when we think about the football team we think about the job. That matt rule did the coach at Yes the panthers now And we think about that job as having been incredible because of what had happened with you know with the previous regime. So yeah it's it's very much is very much lodged in our thoughts now about about what baylor means and what baylor is about and and you know wet. What in their case when you when you listen to them to people in waco feel what they're trying to you know present a new form of themself and and could good scott to is terrific and in that rule was terrific and they walked into very very difficult circumstances and they performed admirably. I'm just saying that in my mind. I can't think baylor without going back to the football and the basketball programs and really significant and i felt lasting scandals. I mean i feel that way about penn state. You know. I always think that way. I always think of jerry sandusky. It's hard not to isn't it taught it isn't i think of these things in terms of you know what's going on with the culture that that kind of and and really the culture almost in in many different places you know how does how does the culture allow the these kind of things to to kind of carry on the way that they did you know. Lsu now we're going to thinking about that yes in a certain way And you say you say sort of. How does this work that you know in that report about lsu. There was talk about sort of how protecting the brand was important and a whole society and and and town gets behind protecting the brand. Will you know protecting the brand is becomes the paramount thing. And how does that happen. You know how how to mind. Start to work and how to fear. Fear of being ostracized or whatever it would be or hashed out Become a factor that makes these cultures. Go so wrong. The way from from half life imitates art. It's a plot of jaws with got to protect. Amity we gotta make sure that everybody comes out here. We can't. We can't let this shark. No we gotta. We gotta protect the brand. That's the whole deal. Less miles got fired. I just wondered your thoughts about that. I i mean i don't know how he or his lawyer could have ever thought that wants. This thing became public that that kansas would keep him. These camp right you. Can't i guess if they were thinking about it in terms of well happened at another job. But you know that's that's been ground so that's been ground given the the you know the severity of what was going on. Just the the disgrace of what was going on so yeah i think they might have been thinking that way. That thinking would be outdated. Yeah i'll let you go on this. Just tell me one thing that. Tell me that that somehow some way. Even if duke loses tonight will still be in this tournament because you can't. We can't really have the tournament without duke. So there's gotta be a kata cil. There's gotta be some back door thing that will allow duke to just play if they still. They don't have them in dayton anymore but just just the first night. Just just let duke in my right on that. Yeah just have you know that. First night's gonna be at either purdue or indiana about an hour and fifteen minutes outside of town. Yeah yeah in kentucky too. I think you just have to to bring them both. Because you know that's that's what we do. We will have to bring both of those into the tournament and they'll probably reach the final and then we'll all talk about what a what a strange season it was with this ending. That was exactly like the norm. Can i tell you that if they could duke against kentucky it will get a higher number than anything until the round of eight it would get the highest number right right. Oh yeah oh yeah and the first thing that the first announcer would say whoever was you can throw out the records. When duke and kentucky play each other yeah. Of course you can't because that's what people wanna see. Enjoy enjoy your travels enjoy. We will try to talk to you from indianapolis thanks. Chuck thanks so much tony. Thank you chuck colpepper. He's a wonderful wonderful writer so happy to have him on the show michael. You're grabbing for something. It's your read fantastic. We'll take a break when we come back. Brian koppelman will join us. I do not know brian. I know some of his work He is the man who wrote rounders. I believe he's written the television show billions. He was in the movie. One of the great movies. Walter michael clayton. So he's going to join us. He does a podcast for cadence. The same company that we podcast for call the moment and we'll we'll get to that if he stays on the line with me because i think he may think i'm a jerk because in fact i am totally kornheiser. This is the tony kornheiser show. Yes this is my reading express. Vpn is here with some hard truths. 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Thanks this is the tony kornheiser. Show this ascent from jesse hightower from the area band interstate rivals and he writes poems eurosport. I've always wanted to write that. This is their newest release available march fifth. So that's already out on band. Camp is called concerns. This is a song called doc. Muffins which will have our music played on the show again. We're also extra excited to have the opportunity to work with matt. Allison a mixed the ep. He's produced albums for some of our favorite punk bands. Such as lawrence arms the holy mess and less than jake just to name a few. This is Jesse hightower again. Who says shout out to drummer. Kevin and guitarist adam with cheese reroute zach. And the guy. From the dropkick. Murphys michael if people like jesse hightower and his band concert his band interstate rivals and joe. Wilson played for us before if they want to send their original music to us which can be heard in its entirety at the end of the podcast. Without me talking over it. How do they do it. Send us your music by emailing it to jingles at tony show dot com and this does have that early saint patrick's day feel to it. It's really nice. It's really nice. The music is great. It's born out of necessity because if we wanted to use real music we'd have to pay a billion dollars on the invited people to send the original music and it's worked out great. Brian koppelman joins us. Now i'm going to be a little bit long. Winded brian. koppelman joins us now. He is part of the cadence group. The play tone family as we like to say he does. A podcast called the moment which is very specific and it talks about the moment that you realized your life was changing and you. Well let him. I let him talk about that. But i need to apologize to him. First because i know that he wrote rounders and have not seen rounders. And i know that he wrote a billions which is a hit television show and i have not seen billions but i also found out that he's from long island that is from roslyn harbor which my guess is either went to roslyn high school or wheatley high school and my guess is at his age. That it's very possible that his parents went to camp with me. It's just very possible. That's what i think so. Which high school is it. And what camp. St have in your background. I grew up in. Westbury i i. It's awesome the year with you They're very things that across my twenty five year old son but the buzz and Really does he's not on the city kids. You understand that. Just very jaded. Yeah i so i. S berry and my parents sent to quaker. School and i stayed at quaker schools. Draws like when i was fifteen or fourteen so i two. I went to private schools for the category but i was in rows and i played basketball with all the rosza kids and all the kids and You know we were in basketball leagues together. So i hung out with a lot of kids. Both those places. My parents didn't go to camp. I go to camp. He his his His parents Could afford to send see. That should have done what i did. Which was the nephew of the people. Own the cam and go there on scholarship. That's how i did it. I worked a great the great camp. Cuma and i guarantee you that people you've played with in roslyn and wheatley. Some of them went to the great camp cuma because we used to draw from the north shore. All the time. And i went to is that did love that record Hello hello father. Which grew up. Listening to allan sherman. Sure here we are. Yeah that's right so let me let me get to this thing. Because as i said i hope i didn't disappoint you by not having seen rounders and not having seen billions but i have seen and i regard as one of the greatest movies. I've ever seen michael clayton. In fact ezra from arlington arlington massachusetts not virginia rights as a millennial little i make a policy of not following the guidance i get from the show. I still make grilled cheese with butter. When i'm not on my bike. I don't tend to wear white. And i barely ever use the code but after fifteen years of listening in a full year of being stuck inside during a once in one hundred years global pandemic. I finally took your advice. And i watched michael clayton. Good movie the horses information for life. You're in it. In in one of the what i would say is actually for the setup of the movie and you would know far better than i written movies but but the critical scene for setting up the movie that tells you the flaws in michael clayton's personality that he's a degenerate gambler and that he's going to be an anti hero more than a hero. As this thing progresses. You are the antagonists in the poker game. You're fabulous fabulous. What do people ask you about that ever. I love that movie. People tweeted it. You know people now watch the movie and realize that it's you know the guy who co created bill like people now put it together. I'll tell you so. I agree with you. That movie is a staggering cheaper correal. That's a staggering achievement when people ask me what screenplay they should read what they want to get him as business. I point them to tony. Gilroy michael quite script. It is a perfect screenplay. But i'll say this tony on like you. Tony gilroy rounders. And because he has cased he has good through acuity what is important at the firm so he watched routers and he called me and he said i'm writing a poker scene for this movie and would you Just that the poker. So i did. I went through my partner. Dave who with whom. I make all the movies and shows that you Studiously don't watch but so we went through. We said it should be the game all And so tony. Tony wrote the scene. Obviously but we gave him sort of what the poker she looked like and then they pass that scene there were about a day away from shooting it a couple of days away from shooting it and he called being said actor who was gonna play wise ass at the table bailed on. Will you come to it. Because you're khokar table superior movie set. And i tried to get out of local actors. I hadn't acted college and i was. I was terrified to show up at of course at the time. I didn't know clue david. I wrote ocean's thirteen afterwards. Probably another one you you have a but rather So but i decided okay. I'll leave my looked at me. He said You're crazy not to do this. Like you have to do with their advocate. A cup too so it was a great day. I had i had the best time clooney was understood. I think you can do that. I was uh business appear but he also could tell. I was not comfortable as an actor. -ssarily early on the day and he did everything he could to make me comfortable at able. You're got me laughing. He basically did everything he could to bake. Not self conscious at the table. So i could do the job i had to do as an actor. I am so glad that i got the be in such a crucially. Great import it. I mean it really is. It's it's fabulous on every level and you're great in that movie and i'm so glad to hear you say that about george clooney. Who is somebody that i have. I have watched in so many different movies. And i think he is. You know he's the heir to the notion of larger than life in movies. He's just fabulous. I i was in his company. Wants i mean only only because he walked by me. And i just said wow. That's that's what a star looks like. I mean you have that sense right. He's a star. Did you get spend a couple of minutes with him when you saw the street or no. No it was that he had done this thing for. Hbo called k. Street it was a six part thing on being a lobbyist and there was a reception. I've told the story thousand times. It was exception at the palm in washington. Dc and i was standing. Tommy giacomo. who was the maitre d' of the palm and we stood together as clooney walked in. And there's two hundred. People palms not a huge restaurant. There's about two hundred people there and they are all in the political business. They are either elected or appointed or their staff. And all of a sudden clooney walks in and like a million fireflies. Everybody's taking a picture. This is before cell phones and this is one. There's flashbulbs and i went. Oh my god and he is lit up in that way that that you that it even makes him more large. What i mean i mean it just i was on. He is opposed delightful At an i would say this to you if like fall when when you are in the position event and i'll say that movie star thing too but Quickly say he's onset. We got to be on set every day of of thirteen. And i play basketball with george with every day he. He plays a pickup game with members of the crew. You have to really play ball. Luckily like i said. I played my whole life so we were able to play together. He's very very good athlete. George how could have been a college baseball player. and He beats the point to make every single person or feel good about the day so that the it gave me a i later learned as i got. The dog is just were key. Shows up on a set. He believes his job is fake that sets function as well as it possibly can part of that. Everybody has greeted while do their jobs as they get. I've i've rarely anybody Better at your standing the food environment at the able to shift the food of the whole environment to badge what. It ought to be a very particular special skill set. But i'll tell you one other quick thing that you'll enjoy about the starr thing Instead of ocean scares biggest star and cash attic as magnetic is georgia's at name's brad pitt. The movie star. Because oh brad walks down the street. Those other two guys become invisible. Is one of the craziest thing that other senior brad. Literally like you see george and it feels like it's the beatles but suddenly ratwatte's and it feels like its commonality or something like the tire get like address follows every game. I will tell you that. I have seen ocean's thirteen. I've seen all the oceans movies going back to eleven. I've even seen the one with all the women I like them. All i just. I think that they are all wonderful movies. So so you can't hate me on that one. Because i've seen that i've liked that i'd like that very much and whenever it whenever i go through the dial i land on it. I stay for at least twenty or thirty minutes because i really like it. You have you've written you mentioned your partner. I'm unfamiliar with him. But it struck me that. Is this sort of like. Is this sort of like matt. Damon and ben affleck with goodwill hunting. I mean did you. Did you sit down and has kids as kids wrote something. That was terrific right. Thanks for what you're gonna watch. I'll pay a lover very true that you'll love movie. Yeah it's not until you. I don't because you ripple the critics who's ever whipped you stop. I'm not. I'm telling you just refer who they are but yet it's fine if you didn't like a five years later or what i rip. The critics as journalists are great journalists. Obviously you've got gotta be responsible stuff which is like a critic ripped round up the tacna ten years later and other review talked about the how much they loved that movie. And they'll say well it's worked for capo. You know is is pale. Comparison to the great classic rags. But i can't watch every christmas. And i'm like dude. I could pull up the review. You you hated it at your work but later on it's Pretty spaghetti best friends. We were kids at so the greatest thing is is a guy that i grew up playing on two levels partner and Know we played football against people like this his best friend fifty years old and so the fact that we're in our fifties now and still do this together getting the hang out all a fake stuff. Got a lot of people have great radio host. Watch gary great get to do this survey it. It really is crazy. That your best friend or the guy you get to walk on that with everyday. I'm really happy By the way really happy that you will accuse me of all of these things that i'm happy that you bear grudges. It makes me happy. I talked to simmons about you. I texted what simmons back and forth and he said to ask you about hedge funds. And i said simmons the only reason you say that now is because you made three hundred million dollars from spotify. I'm not asking him about hedge funds. And and i'm not asking him about the knicks either but i will ask you because the knicks two championships in eighty years. Please stop and none in the last forty five. I will ask you about the moment. I mean i i do a radio show. It is a podcast but it is my daily radio. Show a pod. You do something different. Can you explain what it is and and how you go after the guests that you have. Yeah i love. I just gave me the podcast. I guess on his pod like twenty fifteen and at the end of it we started talk and keep the he was like i view it. He gave me the thought. Whatever it was fourteen so for a lot of people. Got into podcasting. I i love. I love really curious person. And i get to talk to People who've accomplish great things in their lives at creative usually offered the creative your but you could be anyone thousand rushdie to set fires. Barry davis and as long as i can remember the way to hook to a ball of their creative journey where the either a great success or failure the figure out. What what do i do now called these inflection points. It's a compensation for percent eight years. And i have a really loyal audience. Who really gauges with it or not. Aren't i think that stuff so it's finding various. I like where. I was kind of lost career. Wise it's slow how to how to keep going as any showbiz career. As a lot of san he'd be sort of talking. These people really helped me a lot. I get help people with letters to rule Who's deciding whether to go to law school or whether they're trying to do is dream job and here going. They think it through and what they hear reflected in these conversations is great. What if what he's doing. Great oil for over twenty years said about me. I'll i'll tell you know he loves you know. Of course he loves you. He told me he did thirty. Thirty on jimmy connors. I you know. I'm of the age where i covered a lot of things with jimmy connors. I'm curious to find out what you thought of him. If you've got to spend time with him because as great tennis player as he was. I found him to be. Basically a brute as a human being. I mean you know not not someone on go ahead. Thirty thirty okay. They said it was like the fifth. Best of all those facilities. I'll tell ya. We grew up. So i grew up working uso. Very in with the. I i worked there like i Five years high school and was an incredible experience. You know you're gonna locker room and around tablets but for a kid. And then i. I was always this. Incredibly polarized fascinated expelling bigger. Because exactly you saying you know his level of anchor h one but the bills. Saying i won't chris though he does but the last documentary and he said this to be read in class. Read all the bad stuff people about and will how i read how the six gb likes being home and jimmy said patrick set that hurts the basically thought about the. If i'm at least happy. And that's what the documentary at the cheapest jimmy careers. Father was a woman who has you know feeding six. Oh six oh. When he was six years let it get a game and he grew up. You know Bullied by other but the basically challenged who in and merciless Talking about how your versus. How do you do that to extreme. How do you beat. You know this part of the documentary. He never spoke christie and again after that they were friends. He kind of like practically years. He's never ever spoke to aaron again. Active firewalls which is dark right. Yeah well there's a great story the by the late. great. Frank deford about jimmy connors. Growing up How he was raised. I think it begins what he was raised by women to beat men And it's about jimmy connors. His mom jimmy. Connors is a grandmother. Brian it's really nice to have you. I should i should go watch rounders. I should do something to make you like me. I'm a huge huge halls at Like a really. I one thing i've watched pti forever. I've listened to the podcast really. Listen to podcasts all the time It's a pleasure thank you. Thank you so much. Brian koppelman and again. It's called the moment and as we have to have them on again. That was really good. That was great. We will be back. We'll do email jingle when we return. I'm tony kornheiser. This is the tony kornheiser show. This is the michelob bowl to read in sports. If you think joy only happens after you win think again look at the world's most successful athletes they don't spend all their days grinding away. They take the time to enjoy themselves. Like having a michelob. Ultra with friends because they know that happiness is the key to winning and the joy is the whole game. Not just the end game in my life as a sports writer and somebody on television i can think of two teams that exemplified this more than others and i don't want you to get the wrong impression because the be a professional athlete means you have to work very very hard at it. You're in an extraordinarily narrow slice of accomplishment. When you reach the pros but having fun is important as well. I would give you two. I would give you the two thousand nine hundred nats who every time. They hit a home run dance in the dugout and when they danced in the dugout. The camera state on them and it made all of us who rooted for the team very happy and there was a sidebar to that if atom meeting or how kendrick were involved in a play that resulted in a run. They sat next to each other on the bench and they did a power shift as if they were driving a car and that to gave them great joy and gave us as viewers. Great joy the obvious other example is the eighty five bears. Maybe the greatest single season team in the nfl when they put together the super bowl shuffle and everyone went. Oh my god. You can't do that. That's going to jinx. You gotta keep your nose to the grindstone. But now they were the best team ever. They went through the playoffs. Something like ninety one to ten and even will knows how good they were. And i don't get angry when he says it. So that is the great joy that you can take from sports michelob. Ultra ninety five calories two point six grams of carbs. It's only worth it if you enjoy it. You'll listening to the tony kornheiser show talk just west of binghamton since lead college town where it seems like everyone's and a fall in them. Here's tony came to the rescue. It's going to play so why not strap this bear cat around your weight's since he's a free one from the u. The best thing the best thing can still a. That's just wonderful. That's joe arrow. Bill pitcher is playing behind him. Yes yes. 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Monday 11/30/20 - Things You Wish You Attended Draft (ft. Rear Admiral)

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Monday 11/30/20 - Things You Wish You Attended Draft (ft. Rear Admiral)

"All right bank today is monday. November thirtieth welcomed. The dog walk presented by partial sports. We got another snake draft for and our guest. Today is rear admiral. Alan boston rare. Happy to have you man. What's up fellas. My condolences in the loss last night. But hopefully we can get the energy up a little. I know it's monday morning. A little early if you guys but i want to see a little more pepper step. I think we're all listen. This is something that we gotta get ready for. These are actually good for us on a monday because as much as we were sad and depressed on our post game redline radio yesterday like we know we've got to become ready to play today because you just. It's a new day. I think the other three would say the same thing. Yeah it's it's tough on monday morning suck anyways especially are now of fucking early and then a loss like that. I know you guys are. You'll recall you guys will be good the other thing rare not to like turn you off to this. I know you're you know snake draft. You don't do all these with us. There's not a lot of chitchat man before him. Before we got started rear reread. Thought we'd be an airbus balls and like this is a competition at the end of the day rear ads. I don't want you to lose sight of that okay. i was. It was a prerecord trip. That's all right okay. i'm good. I got my mode on. Let's do it. You got your helmet on and you got the hockey hair. Flown off the back. I didn't know you had that. It's looking quite nice. Yeah until i take my hat off the thank you. I appreciate it. Keep it on and it looks great. Well there in lies the rub. You know yeah well are like. I said i've been weighing heavy on because i think this category is perfect for you. The category is things. I wish i attended so it could be from. Anytime there's five subcategories we have history. We have world history. We have sports. We have concerts. And we have a miscellaneous. This topic was inspired. Actually from big. John the mailman. He gave us his way back in. Probably the summer. And i was a great one. We've got to figure out the right time to do it. Head to get through the holidays and rare. You're the history book. I feel like this is going to be a chief in you. Show here where it's just gonna be chop it up about random shit so this is going to be good for you. I'm there are lots of possibilities. I feel like as i'm like known as kind of a history guy. I'm going to be all over the place. It's it's i feel like i'm ready to finish. Maybe off the graphics. I'm just gonna have weird picks so the draft order subsided. We can get going. Carl has number one overall. I the second overall pick chief is third white. Sox dave's fourth rear admirals v Like i said earlier ads. You can take any order so call around the clock man. You could step up to the plate. So i thought going into strike the best picture i have is the fifth pick. 'cause you can see the you can see the board develop in front of you and the reason i say that as inventory so you cheer we can go anywhere. There's like literally chief you set. There's billions of options here. I mean there's nothing you can't take your bad said. I do think there's a clear number one. In these categories that category is orcs. And i think the clear number one for everyone here is nineteen eighty miracle on ice the united states i russia's nine. Oh chief we gave you a miracle when we did movies and i respect that one took mighty ducks too. I over. also. I don't wanna get bitched at about this by when you look at the board dave. I could be at one place. Historically sports for me. Sports for any red blooded american should be nineteen eighty lake placid. The fucking boys taken on the russians can actually why was pissed off a little bit of effort for taking like stooping me in the draft order when we picking the drac is that is the only one up in the grants. even though it's such a wide board kazan you their past on it. I think cheever whoever went third and i was up next thought in. I'm like fuck. I'm going to get the mir cloud i see because that's the only pick for that for that slot the only one now now. The real question is eddie's picking next will he take like the night will read ed. Take the nineteen seventy six Ussr gold medal. Like that's something that's something that we we will see here. They wanna know why you're not mad at call right now chief because that is a one one. Carl's familiar with it. Everybody's familiar with the actual event. I was mad at you for taking miracle. Because you've finished watching it on your little eight inch computer as before. The draft was disingenuous. Pick there's a big difference between what karl just did and what you did. When we're doing sports movie draft was barely figuring means more. You knew it probably does mean more to me and more to to rear at but it's not the same as what you did on the movie draft. That was bullshit. Carl is free to take That that moment because it is the one one pick in this draft. Everything else is an open board that had to go first overall in classic at just trying to twist the knife and play games here and get other people against each other here at. You're the second overall. Pick historically speaking the second overall pick you see richie weber's graphics. I think it's one one time. Ed you had the whole board here. You took the second pick very interesting. Strategy i did. I took the second pick and i did. I did that for reason. I listened bear colonized a great pick a great britain. I'm curious rear. did you have that number one. i did and i know when i passed that dole. The number one pick up by the way it should emerge passed up the number one pick. I knew i knew miracle wasn't gonna make it so the fifth pick. But i want to sacrifice that better picks overall. Okay should dick right. I think it's crazy. Because i think people are going to see that. I think that that automatically gives you like just that much more firepower for one. The graphics is unleashed on the world. Sure i listened to gripe pick. I might regret in the end but at the end of the day to me. I think there were other sports moments. That i'm okay getting besides so that's why i didn't want number one overall so that's a go to number two for me. I take this in the number two spot. You guys might think it's high. I was born in one thousand nine ninety okay. This is something that was kind of. I've been very fascinated with the last couple years since the movie came out. I'm not the hugest music guy of watched this on youtube a million times. But i'm gonna go with the live aid from wembley stadium with queen gone fucking believable concert raise a shit ton of money for charity and i have it as my number one musical concert of out on the board that would have been to. I had a toss up between mine in who i will take that i mean you. Can't you can't argue with that. As i music concert off the off the board at all not to be dick live aid. Wembley because there was lively was two shows in philly wembley so he played at wembley right for any up. I mean i i. i'll take one queen. The fucking presence freddie mercury had and i it was electric it was fucking electric watching it in the movie. It was was very well done. And like i said it's on youtube and i'll still come across it like a couple once every couple of months and i'll watch it and i'm still fascinated by it. Looked like it fucking rock. So i'm going to live aid at wembley with queen okay. I have a question just for clarification. Is this things that we wish we were attending live or is it before we were born because that does kinda like if it before we were born than that eliminates everything lasts for me the last thirty four years so or can be weakened just go to any sporting event ever. I assume it was anything of that. Okay hard i just wanted. Just want clarification on that while we're clarifying things on our way we're just going there for the day and coming back. Is it like we're going there to change anything like is there any qualifications for what why i think. Listen i think you explain it for yourself. Obviously goes in. The graphic is going to say live aid. Wembley miracle on ice is going to say for for years but it's like you know your your perspectives your perspective. Like if you say. Oh i think miracle on ice should be cool to see. I'd want to sit with the russia. You know what i mean like however you want to explain it but and make it more interesting up to you. But you're not going to take a bullet for kennedy right you know. There's no future early experience it. You're like a fly in the wallet. Historical bets okay. It's a great thing to live aid wobbly. I think it's a fucking one concert. So i'm happy with that. Two her off off chiefs few all right. I had a hard time. I mean. I only had one sports moment on the list that i really wanted but i do think that's the most Shallow category here So congrats carl forgetting the nineteeneighty. The only one. I truly truly wanted. But i am going to go I wanna go back to win. Boxing was king. And i in all you talk about wanting to see the all time greats at at their peak. I wanna see the fight of the century. I wanna see joe frazier mohammad-ali madison square garden. That was nineteen seventy-one ali. Coming back from being banned from boxing because he wouldn't go to vietnam unbelievable story obviously mohammed least a goat. You wanna see the greatest So i'm gonna go with the fight of the century ali-frazier i believe that was one Fifteen rounds massive square garden and frazier won the fight. But that was to me. Like that's like the fight that i would want to go to. I believe frazier went to three rivers. muhammad ali. I don't think that's accurate. I think muhammad. Ali asked two out of three right ali. One three ali wants two out of three. I thought he did. That's a great pick. I mean it's a fight was a great way to angle. This show ali frazier. I mean that's that's and that's the that's the one to take like. That's the fight to take and that you know. It's people got hyped up for tyson. Against can roy jones back then like boxing. You could argue. Was the number one sport at that. Time in america like it was still like the premier thing. Everybody stop what they're doing they pack. Movie theaters do livestream. Tv just wasn't as big with things still in the seventies so yeah ali frazier one madison square garden. Put me ringside and listen. I know this doesn't matter at all and shamanee. I'm not comparing either of your picks but and miracle on ice i think think obviously we all agreed we would choose that over it but i think if you want to ticket stub. I think ali fraser might be better. I don't know i think that would be. That's a cool. Ask ticket stub that. That's that's an interesting angle. It's wrong but like you still want the nineteen eighty. But i appreciate you trying to support my argument to clear the clear number one. I feel like it'd be generic olympic one would say like ab home versus whatever. That's why do you doubt questioned clarification real quick before we go to white sox. Dave ali frazier one. Is that how you wanna put. Because that's you know it's pretty Yeah yeah you've got to be specific when holly frazier once not the rumble in the jungle. I want the. It's known as the fight of the century. Okay so oliver's frazier want all right now So i thought she was gonna go rumble in the jungle. Boy ali frazier one. That's i won't argue that. You can't arguing i. You picks other than ed's. I thought there were concerts more famous than you could obtain whatever it is what it is. I'm gonna go history court category. Because i think the rest of minor kind of obscure so i needed to get a home run. I pick because. I think he'll be able to get the picks later on i'm gonna go signing of the declaration indepence for the history category obviously birth america change of fucking world. What more do i need to say. Zadeh is a very hot day. They didn't have air conditioning in philadelphia and install it was. I mean obviously philadelphia is shut down by is trying to cool being a little courtyard red cross from our basically Or i'm busting your balls. I think it's a slam dunk. First-round tech. I think it's a slam dunk. History i i picked at for us because i think that we would have gotten shit on. If that wasn't on the list in the first round. I have just this visualization with. I saw a fucking chimney sweep in the back of the room where they sat in the declaration. The face yeah. They're like what the nation's david break into the newspapers to he'd have the scoop on it. He'd be running down to the printing press. And you know what not only that. I wanted to have a cellphone. They're like so. Like i'm from the future but i could like sling soups in and be the future guy. But no one can see me. Like i'm kind of your ghost. Billy right now. I have no idea i'm there. I've just the one sitting there. Recording all this pumping issued a rare. You get like mad that philadelphia get some that revolutionary shine is like a boston guide. You feel like maybe. It's unfair that they didn't sign it in boston. No i think it's philly new york in boston too. Revolutionary war cities. i mean. I think there was a lot more bloodshed. And you know obviously started here but yeah philly. Philly has as much part of the revolutionary history. Boston but i mean. I think boston that the more a little more the nitty gritty aspect. Blood and guts. I guess specifically dave. You would've been impressed with john. Hancock signature you don't have to have been there to be That's the most famous signature in history. There's it's a signature is called the john hancock. Yeah but you wonder. If white sox day would have brought that into the forefront like you would have been the first guy impressed with it. That's that's a. That's a great. I i and manship was considered like we all right like assholes now. I think penmanship was like a sign of like your upper class. If you have good penmanship with your little feather shit there you go. Well that was. That was a slam dunk to be taken. I first off the board for. Us history citing a declaration of independence are rare to you. You have two picks here. Hey my first one is going to be my concert. Pick that's going to be the monterey pop festival nineteen sixty seven sex drugs rock and roll an entire weekend and great weather and california awesome using drugs or awesome back then. Didn't have to worry about birth control of that shit. Just get a little shot at the doctor after the weekend. Boom you're all good. You got otis redding got the beach. Boys simon and garfunkel eric burden lou. Rawls the who jimi hendrix mamas. And papas. grateful that all these unreal acts again a week in california. It's not just sloppy rainy. Other place ain't gonna mentioned. Give an answer way monterey pop festival boom. I know probably you guys aren't gonna take but it's too big of a deal to leave and the boy actually might have taken it. He's he's a student of old school like that sound great. I've never heard of it. But i'll go ahead say let's go i if you've got. Hbo actually if each max is actually the documentary on me. You should check it out because it's where actually a hendrix guitar on fire and did all that stuff that's contrary to apply bill belief next up. I've been haggling on this one. Because i can go with the obvious one in but i'm gonna i'm gonna see you guys just said i think he's butch rumble in the jungle as ali form. And that's what. I'm going to go it. It was one of the biggest fights ever. If you've never seen a documentary when we were kings you should check it out. It's about whole fight. Lead up to it Base the whole stadium Ali versus the the rope a dope ali bouma one of the most historic fights in history. Like you said chief. Awesome king in the seventies. I was lucky to kind of come. Veja heavyweight our then we got the great middleweights that lead into tyson and then you know box of tennis piled a little bit after 'em it's made a little bit of a comeback beyond gonna go rumble in the jungle. Ali foreman was. I can shush zaire in nineteen seventy-four zaire yet ali. Bouma just means ali kill him. So you had. The whole country does rooting for allied for blood looking to like knock george foreman's head off so that yeah great pick and that's where you see like the famous clips of him beating the drum running through the Dusty third street zaire like awesome awesome. Pick have to go. With ollie now. Ra up there by not taking rumble in the jungle. I for your first pick even though it doesn't really matter because the graphic will show that it was a second round pick known. I don't really a lot about moderate pompous. I think you should flip them. People are gonna subconsciously. Be like what the fuck is that. Even though what you think. I give a fuck with. The internet thinks thirteen years of fossil brother. This is dave. I was going to say if there's a guy is gonna come on here and take five things. Nobody's ever heard of insecure admiral. Because he just does he want one. Because i can't wait to. I'm sure you to find you to videos. Of the monterey pop festival. I will watch them on the flakes tomorrow or something and i can't wait for the jungle. Got the best fucking fights slogan ever right awesome by the way. I forgot who i don't know if i said otis redding. I make sure. I get his name out there. Because he's one of the greatest artist of all time. I'm not sure if i said at my initial first name you said all right. Let's go to say. He deserves to have aired twice. I are at monterey. Pop festival. Oliver foreign rumble in the jungle. Solid one. To where you happy with that. Is that what you were envisioning when you took the last pick. Yeah i mean like. I said i knew i was given up miracle on ice when when i issued the first pick the but yeah. I don't know if any of you guys we're going to take them but i'm certainly happy with them in the grand scheme of cultural history. All right white sox dave back to so what she said it earlier. I think that the sports category was by far the hardest for this one I have to take this format next. Pick because the rest of allegation Sparked the sports category for this sort. I gotta take the nineteen thirty. Two world series. Babe ruth diddy collar shot did not call a shot while south. I mean it's a legendary baseball moment and nobody knows. The true story was he pointing himself was appointed centerfield. Saying i'm hitting us next edge out. It comes obviously didn't win the world series yankees right after murderers row viewers earlier. I would love to just be a flying wall in here. That conversation between the pitcher in babe ruth. What actually happened because no one will ever ever know. A great pick was high on my board for that simple fact. If you're there you cooperate a lot which is fucking huge. I think did things i wish. I witnessed category that hold on rail for sports memorabilia that bat if they can ever prove that like like 'cause there's been an replica. Ship debt of sold for tens and tens of thousands of off. If you could find that bad it would go for millions upon millions of dollars here. Here's the problem with this. Pick though if he goes back in time and he finds out that babe ruth was just like warming up or stretching out shoulder doing something like that and it was totally innocuous known they let me finish my point dave okay and he just does nothing in. It's like this anticlimactic in it becomes a myth after the fact that you're just there and it's like oh we'll like nothing really fuck can happen and you wasted your historic sports moment on something that you know may or may not have happened so that would be that would be a major bust. If you're going all the way back in time to experience something and it's nothing that would suck i disagree. I think it'd be worth it to be a myth buster. The quest for truth is is important to some people chief. Eat yourself from beach. You can never be get in trouble for telling the truth. You're i'm not saying. I'm not saying don't truth about it but i'm saying if you go back in time to see that that frame in its that you're not going to be at least a bit disappointed. You be elements. Disappointment at least ain't no the answer. Molin will ever ever ever know the answer to did. He calls ya. I mean th th. There's been what went to santa. Like fucking call shots. I'm sorry they fuck dave years after the facts and normal ever ever ever know what happened. I chief was just pointing out that. You're taking a pick on something that may or may not have happened. That's that's basically what you say. The whole the whole ambiguity in the whole aura of not knowing what happened is why i have to fly on the wall pushing back to doc brown. We get back to out. That's how i made my list. Everything i wanted to be applying all. I think it's i think it's a good day i really do. I think it's good pick. I wanna know. I certainly and the best part about out doing this. But could you imagine if dave actually did was able to do this like he said doc brown and he came back and he knew the truth and white sox day was on news stations. All over the place being the guy who rebuffs to claim that he called. I mean he'd have to be cited by john hayman and people like that which dave loves so that would that would be quite the store. Don't racy we talked about this while that you guys game where you like. Get a circle of twenty people in whisper. Something into someone's during it's completely different by the time it gets back to you. like what. So there's documented like people know that there is a conversation between babe ruth whoever's pitching against him. What that conversation is. Nobody knows at this point. So what you said like what if was just stretching shaking out of shoulders of the. It wasn't happened. They were john back each other whether or not he told me he was gonna take does next pitch deep. Nobody knows but that is where. I like as a baseball fan. I have to know what what was said in that second conversation. All right yeah. I picture gooney scene where the cop is on the fall of chocolate. I just like you saw this chunk just like just like you saw this. So all right. Dave so you want one thousand nine hundred eighty two world series on their those that what you want call shop. Ruth's called shot all right. That's what i. That's what i figured. I'm just making sure Chief back to you. All right. I'm gonna go with concert here. I'm going back to madison square garden. You know Reread kinda like opened up my eyes and made me think about it a little bit differently. I wanna see as many great acts many great artists at one time as possible. I'm just. I'm going all the way back to two thousand nine going. Twenty fifth anniversary rock and roll hall of fame had bruce springsteen in the eastern band. You had billy joel. You had aretha franklin you had jerry. Lee lewis was still alive. You had ozzie osbourne. You had basically everybody a who's who of everybody who ever lived at that concert. Dave bonnie raitt was there. They like i did a little bit of something. And i'm not a music festival guy. Saw like the idea of doing our as thing where i gotta be there and like you know the mud and tens or wherever they sleep for days on end. No monterey california s going. I want a four hour. You're still outside. I want a four hour concert where i get to see the greatest. Whoever did it. And then i get to go home at night. Like that's what i want So i'm going massive square garden rock and roll hall of fame twenty fifth anniversary concert. I think the fifth round you make that argument for every single pick the rest of the rest of the way i agree i agree so okay. Yeah i didn't have it on my list. But i wish i would've even though it would have been my pick. My my concert pick is going to be so fucking random. I think that i'm not worried about it. But it's near dear to make clown posse juggle gathering at Thanks sorry to rear. What do you think about that. One i i i thought it was. He was just talking about a regular induction ceremony. But they're all those bands perform at that anniversary chief. I honestly don't remember. he did. Yeah they've done an hbo special about it. Yeah i've watched it actually on tv. I'm sorry plant. Watch time at this stage of the performance. Then that's a good pick mick jagger perform too so you know he came onstage so it really was like a big deal big concert. Who's who i think billy joel to it. It's like a lot of my favorites. I love bruce springsteen. I love billy joel also Have in those guys on stage retha franklin all of that. I think it's it's it's something to be seen. And i wanna be there right. Madison square garden twenty fifth anniversary. Rock and roll Can roll hall of fame. Twenty fifth anniversary. Yeah okay. that's off the board. It's back to me. I'm gonna go. Us history. it's a dark one. We we brought it up a little earlier. But i gotta pick. Jfk assassination was on the ground. There just to see what happened man. God yes the grassy you all that have come up from the fucking warehouse to fuck a commotion. I mean i. It's it's a top. It's there unless. I know it's going to look weird but for me. I think it's i mean he bill. It's a film thing so people know what happened is is brains. Got fucking brought out and they shot came from the texas book depository most famous murder ever arguably. Yeah here's the thing though. There were a lot of people there. Nobody knows really what happened. So just because you went back to you. Get clarification on oswald shot. The question is what's the conspiracy or. Why did he kill them right. I could be wrong. I just thought that they knew where the shot came from. They knew who pulled the trigger questions about that. And then you guys have daley plaza. I have yeah so did you change your opinion when you went to confirm your opinion yelp before you got there. I watched a documentary. One time i think you and i have talked about it. The smoking gun yet. A secret service guy was in the car behind jfk and sped up and he was holding his gun and he like jerk back accidentally pulled the trigger. That was the fatal shot from like. You know he was like twenty feet behind him and that was the cover up and they did all the ballistics tests. And there's enough evidence to suggest like this was the guy in the covered up for that guy who supposedly by accident led try that. Yeah that was. That's the theory that i liked the best Not really into the grassy knoll. I don't think oswald did it by himself. Are like all those shots by himself so But yeah i i. It is the most famous murder ever at you. Love murder your big murder guy So that would be. It's not. It's not a bad pick. But i i'm just like if you're just a person on the street or you're on the overpass or something like that. You don't necessarily have clarification on on what went down because it was chaos. You're just they're seeing it. Seeing the event with your own eyes. Like here's here's like see you're thinking about differently. I'm reading under the assumption that when you are picking something that like you weren't like the declaration of independence or or the jfk. I'm thinking where zim fort worth dallas or whatever that. I'm there knowing what's about to happen but you can't change anything so you on it. I was s nation. I'm like that's how i would have thought about it when it was on my list. For europe's history on. I'm thinking like i'm there. I not happen. I'm looking around. Just like for the babe ruth called shot like i'm listening to what is being said. Knowing that almost a hundred years later nobody knows what was said. That makes sense. Yeah does i think the jfk. Assassination just a slam dunk. Because nobody knows will. I mean there's bureaucracies you kind of like look out. I approve whatever conspiracy one an hour an hour after he got killed. Bobby kennedy said so one of his aides. I figured they'd get one of us. I thought it would have been me i. So i mean that's that should summit up right they all also when he gets his head blown off the whole jfk. We'll be back in two left. I mean you don't get shot from behind in your head fucking rock back in your brains blow it of sunless unless you have a seizure unless it causes the cj go forward jerk back zappa film it all the evidence you need an and i did go the plaza. I went to the depository in stand. The grad snow'll. I never had anything in my life. Crystallized that much in one spot like that and then you realize behind the grass. you know. it's all train tracks in this. Short covers that down ladders to like ways and the it would be the easiest getaway in the chaos of all that moment. It's like. I mean if you think oswald acted alone when you just be willfully ignorant of districts. Yeah don't out. I don't buy the grassy knoll either. Though i don't buy agree to disagree are sending back there. I love the chaos. You guys are fucking go begging for those. If i'm on the ground. I have an interesting perspective that nobody else has data just watching a film. I don't care that. I've seen it a million times if i'm on the ground i'm telling you. Hey see. here's what i'll was td. Though there was a fucking horse in front of those sores are at. You know what i mean. That's that's why it's a good pick. That's a good way knocking the pick. I'm just getting jacket shit. It is a good way to get yourself murdered for no one too much. Add something to think about i. I'd be talking all over the place on the witnesses after the witness see how many of them in a fucking car crashes at one half true that ed jfk assassinations. My pick Carl to someone call. Jfk's assassination the most famous murder of all time arguably the most famous myrtle. Okay well i'm going with world history here and i'm gonna take the resurrection of jesus christ. I might think that weekend doing fictional stuff now. Ooh that's funny. Everybody knows this season. No less ara. I was born irish catholic. I could say whatever the fuck. I want about that stuff so you're jaded by the church. I understand that spotlight. Jesus christ geysers dispute about whether or not jesus christ lived Whether or not his movement everything there's literally no factual historical dispute any of that. I would put myself on the ground floor there. i'd argue. That's probably the biggest moment in the history of the world opinion. Big spokane big. Everything shape from their every decision. So many wars have been waged on the backs of batmans data. Resurrection just like the amount of does chaos and consequences and implications that had been brought on by. Jesus christ yeah torture to you on sunday right obviously to see how he came back on fridays too much. Friday's heavy man. Like i can use my imagination for friday gets into that movie in two thousand six was pretty fucking heavy. Two thousand five So yeah we're gonna take the sunday. And i don't wanna hear it from people are like are you got you're joking you know that's good. There's our joke but like spare me guys. I don't. I think i might wanna beat. Oh why oh i mean. It's debate whether it happened or not. Well that's what he's doing to find out just debate where the babe ruth called shot or now maybe for the our audience who might not be familiar with it. Maybe call to explain the resurrection because not everybody has raised catholic. So it might be but i did. It's all the audience. Exactly what he's referring to. This is a big catholic podcast. Though story everybody else crucified and died on the friday role in that on sunday when the guards opened up the tomb You know his body wasn't found and they put the body in the tomb and they stood outside for three days so there wasn't like any like where could he have gone so that's shit Okay i mean. I know it's i don't we don't we try to avoid is much religious stuff but i've been like everybody does he. Jesus whether you believe in them or whatever like everybody knows it uses so you like the clobber orange picks you up the most famous murder with the actual most famous murder pretty accurate. Yeah i would say all right. I like it all right. Yeah so do i. It's resurrection of jesus christ third yup I go to the nasa control center. When we put the man on the moon miscellaneous good one and i think we can start to shift and like the fun part of my list and what i think you want to get out of these events as we know we can't go back and change it but i want to go back and feel the spirit in the victory. The thown the accomplishment. There's nothing better than like a route. Room of people are like all together going nuts in the same level just like we would add miracle nineteen eighty would go on fucking nuts when you were there in that moment. If you're in the control room when you finally get the man on the moon that has to be the most rewarding thing for all those people that spent like their entire lives in career doing the calculations and i can make it work now rare ads. I'm going to ensure you're going to tell me like well. You didn't actually land on the moon. But no i'm not one of those assholes i know kennedy was a conspiracy if you on resurrections but no. I'm fully down there. That the men in the moon happened in full agreement. There you said it's miscellaneous hers at us how we categorize that s going to be my miscellaneous I it is united states base thing. I interpret united states history slightly differently than this in the landscape of us history. So like i would feel more comfortable making my miscellaneous i would. I feel sorry. But i would say that global human moment like that was equally celebrated in china or close to it. As it was here. Japan africa that was like a global moment not just. Us be my opinion. That would be my argument. So i'm with you karl. Good pick man on the moon and that was that was one that we are just waiting to get drafted to write like that was that was a lock to go in this draft. So absolutely all right so back to me. Carl cargoes man in the moon with my third pick. I'd like to pause for a second hawking. Night are the worst boys. We have our biggest sale for the holidays. Dog walk exclusive. 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During the prohibition who that's good one in mind like do you have like an l. capone one or something. yes obviously brench chicago. You know fucking you hear the stories you know. That's how i believe the jazz scene. got faulk. And beefed up big time for roma. The prohibition i mean i don't know it just being sneaky going back to where everything's illegal i mean so i mean it's a fucking pandemic obviously be safe. What are we gotta do. But i'm sure there speakeasy is going on now. But i take me to a speakeasy. During the prohibition is that an infant though yeah why wouldn't it be. It's not like we never vent drinking at a speakeasy same guy just picked. What's something that might not have happened. He can call out ed some. That did what. I know that did happen. Ruth shot the called shot the ambiguity of what happened in that aim. The nineteen thirty two world series is why i have to be there but like you can take it. I guess. I don't think it's event. The moon landing wasn't event like go to a speakeasy that was just like he said things you wish you attended. That was the text i got. I mean i got one. How about any sitting. In a prohibition speakeasy for the nineteen thirty two world series. There you go into it. I don't find eighty. Oh that'd be. I could hear what they said about the shock. All i don't know anyone else got a problem with i. Think i mean prohibitions. A fucking very fucking. He big time. So i know i like it so much willing to work with vito to get it onto the graphic like i have. You have bipartisan support. Like you don't feel it specific enough. I'm fine sitting here workshop in this until we get something that lands on a graphic and has our sport ovation that much Socar ra said that it like the texas things you wish you attended like. I'm thinking sporting event world history. Us issue event miscellaneous event concert like musical event. Going to a speakeasy event again at the did the word event. It said things you wish you attended that. I'm just saying that's the text. I got so like by those words. I wish i attended a prohibition era speakeasy like it seems pretty cut and dried to me. I know it's not a quote unquote event. But i mean if i wrote that down and based on the is given i i'd you know i gotta go to bat ed. Because it wasn't the word event wasn't given to me so not. Just i won't beat him i i would. I would love to go to a speakeasy which ahead. I just don't know that fits for specific Is what i'm saying. I think it'd be a fucking blast. Like i've always wanna go to the casino in chinatown. 'cause i for those exists. Like that's something i'd wanna do. It's anything underground in four point here underground. I'm in for pro visuals. Big time could fucking drink. So that's why. I'm hey take me there. That's a fucking event chief. You got a problem with the foot when you started the explanation i was like getting my my finger was on the veto button and then you said what it was and i love the pick so i'm not i have no problem with. I think it's it's one of those things where it's like. Yeah like that would have been. That would have been sweet. That would have been a lot of fun like this. So far is probably the most fun pick on the on the draft. Like just drinking when you're not supposed to. It's almost like permanent Status right like you're out. You're having fun. You're not you're doing something that is so super common but also not allows. You're kind of a bad boy. I think that's i think that's great Take turns it up a notch. So i think it's great. Pick all right. That's my miscellaneous. Speakeasy during the prohibition chief or back to you i believe all right. I'm gonna go world history here as well and it's kind of i was plan and taking this in the fifth round but for the sake of the draft. It's going to piggyback on on carl's pick of the resurrection. Jesus christ i'm taking the council of nice sia. That's when all the people in the roman empire three hundred twenty four years after jesus died decided what was going to be in the bible so they just all these different groups of christians and they're like hey like we're all like warring. We need like one fucking book to decide like was he's a son of god or was he just a regular guy was he. This was that and then they kind of came together and had this like grand meeting to decide like art. This is what christians believe. And that is what started all the warts so it was. Jesus dying we live in no they they. They were just highly highly educated. Highly editorialize story and book and those people got together and decided like the path of the world. It became the greatest selling book most. Well well read book of all time So i wanna be there when they're like. This was really white like die. Think that would be fun. Like what didn't make the cut. Yeah and there's there's books about like the book of knocked like mary. Magdalene had a book. she's a woman. Get her out of here. And so they're all these other like parts of jesus disciples that they just they like black black line things out of there like Hold books out of there that were part of early christianity. That three hundred years later imagined like we went back to the constitution. We're like we're going to get rid of some of these bill of rights. We're just going to get rid of them. And like but that is how they made the actual new testament and that was well after jesus died. And that's like the actual real the real thing that moves the world like forward in different directions explanation. I i mean. I don't you know it's gonna be tough for people in ulta to fuck it is i know i know but kind of taking a kick in the second round here but whatever works for you. It does work for me all right. Thank you and i just wanted to piggyback. Because we just talked about the other. Jesus stuff with carl so i thought this would be the right spot to take it. Even though i know it could have the fifth round or the twentieth round or whatever but that to me is like the most interesting moment For like western civilization is like that moment right there. They decided what was going to be in the In the bible a lot of people fucking read that book big time book so and they haven't read the things that got cut out like life. Yeah it's a great. I think that's a great pick. Like i said it's the listener. The listener the listeners. Going to really drive that. Vote for you if you know. And i said before the draft being like this is probably this draft is not going to go well for me. I'm going to have some random fucking things council. A nice zia was what was in my brain. When i know it's not a well known thing did that. It's replied add on dog was like not super familiar with which surprised so dining doesn't know it. I'm sure a lot of people don't know but council nice year were would decided the fate of christianity for two thousand years essentially back white sox debut up now i could go a scratch and i almost want to by the acronym pander woodstock i feel like people are going to bitch at us because i'm gonna take another concert and woodstock will officially be left off. The board completely woodstock does not sound like a good time. A million people attended in the middle of a fucking field mud. Like if you have a bad seat how the fuck you supposed to hear jimi hendrix guitar solo. Shit like that like as good as the musicians were there. I just wouldn't want to be there instead. Go to nine hundred ninety. I'm going to go to alpine valley. Go to august twenty seven. I'm gonna go to seed andrey vons. Last concert died in a helicopter crash about one a. m. that morning nobody even knew that. The helicopter crashes the next day when it didn't he was on his way to chicago. He was with eric clapton. And it was supposed to be eric. Clapton took that last year on the helicopter. But steve ray. Vaughan was in a hurry to get back chicago because he had to start prepping for show while in chicago. The next the next morning right away so you will catch the next one fucking crafty grave on debt. I think he in my opinion and he's degraded guitarist of all time. I absolutely love his music. And if i could have been at alpine valley which we've all been through other than are. Probably i like to see him in his last show. I think would have been absolutely incredible. I liked that for deep cut Whiteside dave might not pick it. But yeah steve. You're avon's one of those guys at a lot of people probably didn't get where everyone but when you discover it's like man what a what a fucking talent. This guy was himself was awful. Yeah it was. It was also spoken dead. Like if he'd still be playing fucking rock shows today. If it weren't for just bad weather it was not too dissimilar to what happened to kobe. Bryant is bad weather foggy a crash a half mile takeoff and just really said fuck in one of the best ever gone at the drop of a hat. Stevie ray vaughan's live concert go pick. I'm a little disappointed. You didn't take garth brooks in central park. But i was thinking works at a job week but there yes he'd say that only about one hundred people there no big deal right now for the record. dave you went very into woodstock. Carl still has his concert. Pick on the table so that was Not factual when he said everybody's off the board so and you can have a few aunts. Could've taken a stretch. I didn't want to because i'm out of pander. Like jesus i don't fuck you dave. I think i think clearly chief didn't handle with his last pick dream anoc dale over the fact. That was kinda something you're welcome. All right steve. Vons last concert is off. the board. will move to all right. I'm gonna go. Us history at. I did have this written down before. So i might be looking like piggyback feel a little bit but i'm going to go with the repeal of prohibition which species refund but take a speakeasy outside and have everybody doing it. That's basically the repeal of prohibition the whole country is fucked up. I would imagine a long time was probably a huge party everywhere. I mean people probably smelled whereas back then in the breathless bobby awful him the hygiene products available but fuck it roll the dice. prohibition repeal bagel potty in the grand. Usa sounds good to me and just a real knife in the back that here. I mean it. Puts prohibition on a graphic. I'd takes prohibition talks about prohibition and it's almost like rear edge changes draft strategy. Once you heard ed say prohibition down five hours ago but of them. We're going to need those notes for the dog. The dog walks committee. We're going to put in the hall. I actually don't think that hurts you at all that. I think i'd still rather do the illegal version because it's going to be more fun. You feel like a bad boy it's like. Ra pick the like. Turn the lights back on. Yeah but you don't wanna split the prohibition vote you never wanna split. The prohibition could be deadly deadly all right and then the second one this one a word but i can get specific. I need to use a phrase because it's all on a toilet spot world history when dinosaurs ruled the earth. obviously that's jurassic park. If it needs to be more specific will say all right all hanging on hanging out a couple of months before. The asteroid hit knocked them all out but basically be on the planet to observe observe dino show is while they were running running game back day fly on. I think that's the pick of the draft would've clucking credible pick faulk that. Have you seen dinosaurs. Those things are so fucking scared. Don't want any part. I don't want to be anywhere near on the law man. I mean some. Get tongue. But i mean the dinosaurs predated human beings by sixty five million years so so you were just to be clear. That's when we say world history is like clear world history. It's at human history within the world. I like the pick i like. It's a good interpretation carl. I'll give you this one for free. If you wanna go back to the big bang can take it like that. I just back to big bang through. It's a great pick. You have a favorite dinosaur me. Dave talk about the dave. The dinosaur craze happened. When i was already drinking age so i didn't have like dinosaur toys. Should as a kid. But i mean t. Rex is such obvious. Yes i don't know. I guess the pterodactyl is always pretty cool fly in second dinosaur. You know all old. Airedale advantage pterodactyl flyer. I don't like that aren t rex. Who the fuck. Everyone's going to t. Rex fucking dinosaurs. Now it's like they find a one like all this dinosaur like to drink wine on wednesdays and watch fucking sex in the city on the weekends. It's like they out shit from fucking million-year-old bone triceratops. Good one i mean he'd make a triceratops. Yeah i've been listening. Yeah he would revel. It was on my board to you. Act like that. Was like a revolutionary. I think everyone like dinosaurs. And even if it is a fly on the wall a fucking dinosaurs gonna eat that fucking fly l. Roll those dice. Yeah well. I don't know how to put it odd and i'll be honest. What dinosaur the dinosaur media or what. What do i put here. I mean you've jurassic era idaho month before dinosaur asteroid wipes out dinosaurs out with hang out with dinosaurs manga for you. I'll i'll pick something. Drastic are probably works. Back connection is like are a. And i think on the same page. We're upgrading Flies on the wall. Your eight. You are like the butterfly effect in our world would be different. I know this girl meghan can yet where neanderthals shit. It's just world history. Anything to happen in the world during his history. All right White sox day to you Okay so i. I was hoping this gets me. I'm kinda surprised at. Did i wanna be in the back of the board bronco during the jason on my board to miscellaneous i want to conversation. They're out of cellphone. That's like one of my earliest memories too. 'cause i was in kindergarten when it happened. And that's like. I don't remember the tearing down of the berlin wall or anything like that. Ira i remember the like how big a deal. It was when he got acquitted in court. I remember the bronco chase our members. Just everybody in their mother was talking about it and I would have been thousand ninety three correct. So i would have been five years old. I think it was at ninety three. No the doj hac. I'm ninety four nine nine. Four june six june seventeenth nineteen ninety-five at net. Day was like fucking crazy dangerous. History that that's right. So i would have been six years old and Yeah just think would have been cool being that bronco lake urine. Oj region the fuck out. driver alcon star remembers the oj chases picture. Would you want to be in the back seat with. Oh jail in the way way. Back of the bronco Way way back when the flat or like trump thing. That's where i want ya. Dave would be in the front like just picking music like you'd be running like oh like what. What are we doing here. You would just be running the radio. Yeah i mean yeah yeah. Sure and white sox dave's mellon in that iconex shot with all the cop cars behind it know. Jay is unbelievable. So i want that on the graphic i want to be in the car in the bronco for jason chase. Oj's bronco at it was on my list to it. Sounds like a lot of us said that one that was its icon iq. So i i actually missed the oj. Case i was. Yeah i was at a meat loaf concert dragging. I took my little sister meatloaf she you wanted to go and so i took her to a Clue about it. there was no internet. Cell phones weren't really prevalent. I get home. Put the tv on. It's like holy shit you know it's like you know punching the face. It was all over every channel. But yeah i was. I was about it until i get home. Say what you will about. Oj simpson but he's the only running back and nfl history thousand yards in a fourteen game. Nfl hey most known. That's that's what we should remember him for that and then they could right dave. Thank you dave. all right. Back to chief heisman trophy winner to just let you go through all his accomplishments. Greatest organ running backs in history. I love his twitter. Bleed video guy tells it like it is okay. Yeah i'm struggling with. Us history here. A little bit surprising. Yeah i well. This is another one where i like i. I'm gonna make this pick. And i'm going to feel good about it but i know i'm going to be left off the graphic so i'm going with lewis and clark. I wanted to be on that expedition. I wanna see america louisiana purchase for the first time like just see how a miracle look before we just paved over it. Like i wanna be on like. I love learning new stuff. I want to be on the frontier with those guys. They're like chart things out map in it and it's just couple like camping trip with the boys. All across america like have whiskey at night have a good time meets millions. I think that sounds like a Like these time and you're seeing like how like nature was back then so i like it if the buffalo all of that what set would you make love. Just i think yeah probably. She looks hot on those on those dollars. So maybe if she she was willing little horny. Yeah sure i mean if you're out if you're walking around the planes for three months and savage we gives you the is yeah. I think you're probably inviting her back to your tent. Dave using make love his a euphemism as opposed to rearranging her guts. Like you you come on. How many people you know. Make love to call chief. I like you said it's probably not gonna play too great but you're right. It would be interesting to see everything before it became a thing. Imagine being on michigan avenue. And it's just nothing like that would be kinda cool. That'd be kind of cool to see out when i was flying into new york. City like delta like like kind of like swampland basically you can't even no concrete jungle year. You can kind of see that from the plane. When you're flying in your book it has become one of the most important cities biggest season world and it on this book in big ass empty plot of land. So i like that. I don't think sexy pick but it's a fucking empty button. All right it's to me. I'm going to go world event here. Listen it's not. it's pretty obvious. Some might not like it. Because it's so obvious. But i still wanna know how they made those fuck pyramids. Yeah i still wanna know like how do they do it. How was it done. Well aliens aliens could be could be so. Yeah i mean if you want to go back in time confirm that aliens made the first grade pyramid. I'm fucking with you on that one out miscellaneous to be honest so that was on my miscellaneous list or is it. So yeah i. I don't know i don't know if anyone's any comments on that i know it's just hot weather. It real hot as say a lot of sand shot climate perspective. Would you wear sandals. hold on hold on. i gotta stay long. I just got to see one dropping. The block walk around. See how the fucking boy said the the the what's the line call assembly line assembly line. Yeah that's what i was looking for. See other boys got the assembly line. Work in. And i'd be happy with it. I wouldn't i wouldn't need much. I would just wanna see us helping it. What s you start helping. I think i i would be done with my visit. I think i don't think asking people to help speaking of it being hot. Though this is a fact about the pyramids. I blog this in september it. The pyramids have air conditioning inside. The pyramid doesn't matter what the temperature is outside. Somehow it's always sixty eight degrees always just permanently set to the perfect temperature. I don't know how it works. But that's what the temperature so ed. If you're getting hot in the egyptian desert just walk inside your sixty eight degrees so you're good. Yeah beautiful building of the pyramids. How the fuck that had happened. Like i said tegray wonder. I just wanna know So that's my fourth pick will move to carl for his fourth and fifth. I'm gonna go to us history here. I'm going to take the british. The british capitulation surrender at yorktown so Is to be there for the party after we beat. The brits like this is the defining moment where it's like. Alright we fucking beat these guys. It's over we don't know what we're going to become because a lot of shift to figure out but we said we're going independent. We knew a fucking battle has come in. The battle of yorktown was time. The united states. Like that's motherfucker. Get the fuck outta here. We're our own shit. So you want put british surrender at yorktown for you as history on the graphic british surrender yorktown. That's what i got good pack. It's not too heavy. I wanna be in the officers quarters sip. Nice fucking cocktails afterward. Smoking a cigar putting on the uniform. You know you know all those guys were going out in court and find ladies after was over a great win good celebration good celebration following share and the strategy like you said after. What's what's next. Yeah because the part for me the excitement that comes from a lotta. These events like in world history. There's a lot of stuff across the united states history like world war two and there's a lot of these like major major moments but to me the major moment with the most optimism that followed was when we beat the brits. So i like. It's not necessarily the first event or battle that i would've taken but i think it's a very solid like you know three wind player right. They're looking for. I wanna blow the draft. I feel confident. My first three rounds a us history. There's a lot of heavy shit in our history. I wanna take something early on something. We can all get behind. You know people like the fact we beat the brits. There's no doubt about that or to. What do you think you're going to. I i like it. I mean if you're looking for for a good time like i wasn't going to pick any worse because it's just like faulk like if you're celebrating like there's somebody there with his fucking leg blown off like that's kind of a bummer. But winning at yorktown be like hey like we just kicked it. it'd be almost. It's almost a kin to the nineteen eighty olympic team. Which is is that big of an upset like nobody beat the british back. Then they ruled. The world of the world never sat on the british empire and we had these rag tag farmers when out there with pitchforks and shotguns and shit and took down king george so i think it's i think it's a great pick And you know set up A pivotal moment world history too. So yeah good good. That's a good point chief. Because obviously i grew up battle bunker hill. Been pretty much where. I used to sleep as a kid at night. But it's like. I really wanna see that like people just getting slotted like not to mention the us while the revolutionaries lost that battle. It's like do you want to watch people get slaughtered. I mean that doesn't sound like a lot of fun. You know rather go get drunk. After fucking prohibition gets repealed All right carl. You need a concert So i have jocular i. i'm between two But today's one. I don't know why why woodstock went gonna graphic. I'm not the biggest music. I of this group either like when i look at the concerts it's like i don't have something that jumps out. I'm like faulk. That would have been sick if i could have gone to. So i'm gonna take woodstock woodstock is the fucking festival that kind of set the stage for all this stuff like if you like lollapalooza guess what there was woodstock if you all this shit talking about getting together throwing a big fucking party. Now whether i'm right or wrong about this either woodstock to me is like the generic jock pick soccer. If i don't take woodstock while i say this all the other one i have. I know we're going to get arbel mentioned later. But just because i'm on this concert. The other thing i had in mind was the nineteen sixty four taping of the ed sullivan. Show where the beatles made their first appearance. The united states that would have been great performance but for me. I just think there's more to be said from an experience or going to woodstock as opposed to be being crammed in the ed sullivan theater. For however long it was fifteen twenty minutes like just overall experience in even if it does suck than i get to be. The guy that comes back like woodstock. Wasn't that great. But as far as i'm concerned woodstock's the brand name recognition of that concert environment that like it's lost and forgotten. I would've loved to experience at woodstock had to go somewhere. I mean it's not it's not disingenuous. Because i would have gone like i do i. I wish i attended went to. Have you been allied. No it's the fucking worst thing on the planet and multiply that times ten source a reason it's called. There's a reason woodstock like that name lives on dave. Do you guys remember when they tried to remake it in like two thousand five in the nineties. But yeah i think. They tried to remake like this year last year and that cancelled it. It was just fucking horrible. I think like madonna was there and she was just all fucked up and it was just bad. I mean i. I wouldn't have wanted. I would have gone because it's woodstock not because i wanted to go. You're kind of obliged to go to something like that. Think if you had the opportunity all right then what stocks off the board. Carl's draft dot. It's to me. It's my final pick. I need sports. I waited until the end. 'cause you guys took your early so i might as well waited because i was not risk of anything being taken guys. All good picks. There's a lot of chicago specific. Ones you as laid off those somaly off from to and and listen. This one is is in the same vein as dave's even though we knew it. We know what happened when we were kids. Everyone would talk about how many points is score. How many points call you at twelve fourteen. Did you hear about this guy wilt chamberlain. He scored one hundred. There is no video footage anywhere of well chamber. Let's hundred point game to be in attendance to actually witness to someone scoring a hundred points. We'll be pretty fucking cool. Even if they were layups free throws or whatever. I know how he got him. I'm very aware but it's the iconic picture with the hundred. It's being there with no one else shot. That's what's important to me. So i think that's a good sports. Pick good spinal sports pick. I think it's one of the great. I think it's one of the great value picks in draft history. Maybe in the last maybe not draft history about over the last ten twelve drafts. I think that's one of the great value. Picks while the great fifth round picks. It does nothing for me personally. Well the fact. There's no footage i think is the strongest argument. Yeah i honestly had. No idea wasn't footage. That's how little i care about that event because like i said what was he. Seven feet tall. That's all it's gonna do justice Like koby's eighty-one where he's just going often is so in. His only can't miss if i'm playing basketball on a fucking four foot. Who against eight year olds which is basically what will chamberlain is doing. I'm just gonna turn on dunk. All that takes skill update. I want against russell. I'm embellishing the point being a mass olea. I'm pretty sure they stop the game after he got to one hundred. Fucking games over and So that's something you'd like to be so dominant that the rafts are just like he got one hundred. Were done with this game. That's kind of cool too but yeah. It wasn't on my board as a sports moment. I think there's unlike hall said and it's the truth. It's the no footage thing is. What got me. Yep hundred points is so fucking many triple digits. It's a huge moment in. Listen whether you you know you got older and you become a little jaded but when you were a kid you always how fox news wilt chamberlain. He scored one hundred points. So i'm going to pick that as as the last sports and we'll go to Chief your your final equity you need. I need a miscellaneous now So i'm going. I wanna to be at the crash site. Nineteen forty seven roswell new mexico. Lemme see those aliens. Let me see them aliens and And get to the bottom of that. So that spurred you know after that came like area fifty one and all that but give me roswell and let me see those little green dudes. So i can just confirm that aliens or real even though i already know the real but i wanna see him. Pick actually give out. Say it's great. Pick there you go great. You go into a little more. Sorry one thousand nine hundred forty. Seven aliens allegedly crash-landed while new mexico. There are newspaper articles about all the like what the fuck is going on. Government comes in you know basically men in black situation they they get rid of those papers. They block off the crash site And it's been like a big mystery ever since so. I wanna be there when the aliens crash land. They get transported and they set up Area fifty one To to store those aliens and like all the bottles are shit. Like i wanna see the aliens. Crash landed here in nineteen forty seven roswell new mexico. All right he took our is to must have been a good pick. Yeah pick chief white sox day what do you need. You need world history right. This is gonna so i have. I have twenty six. I actually want kind merge the to this. But i had feeling that you guys might not like it because it doesn't have like a specific set date or a timeframe i wanna go back to and find a fucking asshole who ate the fucking bat that started this bullshit pandemic and i want a slap them in the face. I don't wanna be a flying awhile be like put that fucking bad down your bathroom. White sox baseball season on your only give sixty game or the white sox windows just now opening you fucking cock sucker. Put the down they. Dave doesn't wanna be patient zero. He wants to be patient one. Apparently because we've already established that you're fly on the wall. You can't go back in interstate so you're just meeting the guy who got it first in eight the bat so you can get at second like that's what you're saying. You can't intervene already. Had the coronavirus did it focus do anything. He meows low-sulphur couple. Days sweat a little bit. I would have just self quarantine for fourteen days not spreading anybody else. Okay but put fine. But you're going back you like us. One meet the guy who started the virus like we already said like ed pick jfk. He can't stop the assassination. You stop can't whole your whole logic. Was i'm going to go back and save baseball and save the world from corona yet. Can't we've already established those rules so that might be that. We never standard rules. It's kind of just how we are all operating. No we. I asked for clarification. I asked her certification that you can't go back and take a bullet for jfk. I said that great in the first round yukiko back and stop corona. You just want to watch somebody get it. That is as the ingram. 'cause i'm only taking the pick took it but i did it. It's you said repeatedly that it's fly on the wall along. I'm talking to commissioner at but you said it's flying the wall that's how i was operated. I'm jewish you'll not can't. We are established. That was a rule. I'm asking you commissioner. I don't wanna hear you talking to more. Do you want to show up just to see the guy who started growing virus. I wanna fuck him up. Say put the fucking back now or i talk. Dave looks like russell from operate. Now the way the cameras fucking bill of his hat. It's been driving crazy for an hour. Sorry that's i don't think this can be. I don't think so we. You can't go back and rewrite things. So what do you want to just go to see them. Eat a bat and fucking poison. The rest of the world's he picked the start of corona virus. That's you pick. Yeah i'm chief it is you pick. I mean you can only do it. You can't prevent it right. You're permitted kennedy gets off right now. It was contingent. If i could change the history all right. I'll just put it on the graphic dave break breaking bat with starter of corona virus. Ed you're not listening to me. I said i want to pick it contingent upon me being telling him to put the fucking back down that he ate started. This bullshit kennedy duck. We veto someone's reasoning pick for the first time ever getting his. I don't know what do you guys rent i. He's trying break in the excuse. But you can't because when we can't redo history here so he says i wanna see the guy get corona or you can't prevent david just like couldn't prevent kennedy get killed joe's just put into one on your own words fly on the wall patient. Zero kuroda virus. That's what that's what you picked all right you you get you get to see the virus stop but you can't stop it. You want to know how the bat was cooked was a on. The super countries could pick my draft. Pick was can pick right there. And then i said was contingent on meet being able to say. Hey astle put the fuck bet down. You're about to start a world if you do that. I'm taking it off my board backpedal this fast in real life you'd be played in the nfl's okay. So i mean he can keep it in whatever they can vote on five on it right. E day victory in europe fucking world war. two's ending almost still beat the japanese in the pacific fucking talking about ed media graphic off the rails man. Yeah man like all right so is this is that. Us history gelinas. If you're taking the world he needs world or the history. Nutro american toll All right so what you find pick date so we can day. I want vide the iconic images of like to see. You can kiss kiss. A girl in times square is that we had a bunch of make love to later or madison square garden. I want to kiss the chick in times square to sailor. Had on an little red banting around my neck. After hitler in the in the nazis selenium those cats that said well with achieving a good world. History pick vida. I think it's his pick was his pick. You wanna to see corona yeah. I think his finger was off the piece. I can't even think about vide. Because it's just dave is like karl said he's backpedaling. You got caught not paying attention to again. And i think the graphics should reflect that. I think the graphic should say the start of corona virus and davis asked that. That's fine because that's another ambiguity. That like people wondering was created elect. Did it do you fuck them. Back did started italy act. We liked the chinese trying to say. Now how did this mess happen. How could we fucking been more proactive about stoppage. If you guys wanna put it on their by all means but that's not that's disingenuous. What i wanted the graphic to say. In what i wanted to go back in time and do all. Don't lie dave. I don't know what you guys. I'm going to do here. I do think. Do you think we should stick on. want that. Having dinner with the back guy that was when he said he he himself earlier in the show said fly on the wall. So if you're a fly on the wall you can't you can't prevent the fucking corona virus just like you couldn't prevent kennedy getting shot so i mean it's kind of what if someone would have said. Hey like i'm going back in time to stop kennedy assassination. Like i would have been like okay. We already established that really. You would win. Eddie yourself debuted contradicting enroll. That's not how. I was preparing my list of events while i was cave on you in round. One i ask for clarification and we said no like the example i used was kennedy. You can't go back and take a bullet for kennedy was and it like okay. So that that was in the beginning of the draft was before my first pick and that's how we established it. That's how we were all. We went through twenty four picks twenty three picks that way. And now you're like no. I wanna stop corona virus. Well i mean. We can't do that now. I want my i want a bonus round. Pick to go back to the start of the draft the redo the whole draft. Because if we're if we're changing the rules maybe i would have a completely different draft so all right so even world war two chief for where do you. Where do you think they should have to be having dinner with. The guy. Like damn davis epic dinner with the guy who ate the coronavirus bet. Here's here's read. Eight off is fascist. Asks is bullshit. Is dave twenty. Four th pick fucking. Finish line of this fucking podcasts. And we're about to give mr relevant and you wanna fuck enough dinner with the guy who had a fucking bat and that's my fault of course and we didn't even give you my shit about the oj fucking pick which is outrageous on. Its own but outrageous. You wanna ride shotgun murderer from the klopp's that's fine. I mean that's not how you saw on iran sores xu's psycho at fly on the wall. I i'm just a fly on the wall like you said meet. Oj simpson years ago in the florida keys at knows the story. Then a greatest gonna fuck you in terms of what he wants to eat. You do see buying the bathroom addressing art the lawyer or not but i saw the talking photo some bundt bob boys. It brentwood fucking thirty. Years ago i know was capable of through all right. So that's it. It seemed majority of the podcast voted for that that they should be stuck with the bat of irish guy so her head rang my miscellaneous salinas. I i want to be the first time that whoever it was the first person to get stoned. Wanna see who that was. I wanna see how they did it. What made them do it. And how quick. They went back to it because they smoke it. They could somehow like the first person to look at a marijuana leaf or bud rather and basically end up getting stoned off all wanna see that and be afford if you watch a video. I had a crazy reaction. Because i thought you meant like stoning killed art stoned like you know means function how. It's if it were me. Maybe you could say like. I want to see somebody get stolen. It's all right. That was the most on brand pick of the draft so like i immediately knew what he was talking to. Of course he's talking about drugs. I i wonder if that was the first way. Someone got high though i like well. Let's stone the stone. I mean that's what i'm saying. I don't know if they ate something. How did i want to be there. I'm curious to see the first person whether it was a million years ago. Five hundred thousand years ago five. Who the first one to take that bud and be like. Let's do something with this in ten minutes. Holy fuck film. Pretty good right now. That's that's what they say that. That was a huge step in evolution. Where they human started like eating mushrooms psychedelic mushrooms like before we even really humans and then they started being able to like think in geometry and you spears and things like that that like really changed the entire an unlocked like the ability to speak and have language and all that kind of stuff so be very interesting makes sense. Yeah so all right. I'm gonna run drugs. I really thought he was talking about someone getting stone store them all right. I'm gonna run through them then. We'll do some annual matches. We'll get outta here Carl miracle on ice resurrection of jesus christ man on the moon. British surrender at yorktown woodstock. Eddie live aid at wembley jfk. Assassination speakeasy during prohibition building of the pyramids wilson. One hundred point game. Chief ali frazier one madison square garden and twenty fifth anniversary. Rock and roll hall of fame Council of lewis and clark sacks petition the crash site. Where i i gotta get down at crosswell roswell crash site your white sox dave signing of the declaration of independence babe. Ruth's called shot stevie. Ray vaughan's concert last concert passenger. oj's bronco chase dinner with the guy who ate coronavirus bat for my monterey top festival ali first foreman the repeal of prohibition battle net dine the month before dinosaurs died and the first person who got stoned. What's yeah call. Will rumble in the jungle is probably the better way people just not to be addict but call said to be in the control room man of i'm not necessarily man that i think is a huge difference in the wording tha- i didn't i don't i'm not trying to be like an astronaut with I just think if people see me and the they're going to think all college fly on the wall on the shuttle or even on the moon because this is fantasy stuff but right. So i wanted a control room during moon landing. Yeah yeah. I'm the guy who fucking did the calculations i was figuring out the terminal velocity or whatever all right we'll Control room during moon landing Any other honorable mentions Atlantis to see if that was a real thing. The mayans like what the fuck happened to them how they make that calendar. How is it so accurate. Like i'd like to like i. I love like the ancient shit. So i there's like an endless list of that but those atop to that kind of comes to mind for me if you wanna go ahead i had. I was going to be territorial. I mean bought stanley cup. Winning goal is obvious but if the bruins lose that game they still got three more chances to win the title whereas the rumble in the jungle is a once in a lifetime of that saw. That's why i kind of went blocks. And plus it's a little more of an open audience. Also consett bob. Molly live at the lyceum in an england. Back in nineteen seventy six any consummate sixty nine stone store in any leads consett of basically that like winds up It sucks. i've never seen him because they're probably per second favorite time. I had pink. Floyd playing the wall at the berlin wall in nineteen eighty nine. I had tigers answers. One thousand strokes on us twenty one years old. I had the mets for philly sunday night. Baseball game when some bin laden killed on sunday night. Baseball in two thousand eleven. I thought i was watching. Tv and it was really eerie. I remember and then the whole stadium just went fucking nuts. The players had no idea what was going on but it was really cool And then the battle of kursk that one nobody would have done. What the fuck out though. But it was two point. Seven million people biggest angkor ever. Ah between the soviets and the germans on the eastern front that's like the entire city of chicago men women and children in a tank were in eastern europe. So i thought that'd be cool. Just watch from like bird's eye view. Obviously eighty-five bears super bowl. Jordan's final shot disco. Demolition night dave surprise. You know months to that. I said that He turned into down. Yeah i was. That's historic malice at the palace. That would've been fucking interesting. I d b cooper plane. I'd like to see what that fucker actually looked like. you know. See where you know. If i got a visual out of the window to see where he feel like i could. Maybe ex marked the spot. The found that fucker titanic. I don't know how. I would have worked at. Where i wouldn't have died in it but i would have liked to see the ship and you know to see everything that happened on the titanic. Be rich of one. The do not a couple hundred thousand dollars kidnapped a little orphan girl. She's all you got your all. She's got most of the actually. Most of the really wealthy guys still died anyways But the titanic certainly would be great to walk around at and appreciate the beauty and majesty interesting thing about the titanic. Most people that were on that ship. We're like huge players in society. So just imagine if like the top you know. Journalists the top athletes the top business people the top like all the famous people in the world. It just imagine just like a huge number of them tomorrow. Morning died On that note my only honorable mention was us history battle. Midway the pacific theater is absolute fucking chaos. The japanese were ferocious than one day comes within the bat. In the matter of ten minutes the united states sankt three of the japanese aircraft carriers. The next day they put the fourth one down would seem like something would take ten years this luxury and get your ass kicked by the japanese In a matter of minutes loss. When i almost want my box and pick tyson douglas in japan. That would have been a fucking unreal. One of the biggest. Probably the miracle fucking second biggest sports upset of yeah for sure that that's a great one Two hundred to one right now. He was like forty two one. But if you if you had boston would have made some serious cabbage bust. The might have been forty-one but tyson was a huge fucking but nobody thought he was. Losing that night was another tomato. Ken lined up farm and didn't happen. Big dog rare at thanks man. This was the boys. I've been waiting a long time for this at a lot of phone. You guys. hopefully. I'll be back out there soon. I miss chicago miss hanging out you guys i. I never got my italian beef. Last time i was out there so we still got a line. That bad boy up. We gotta get you guys out here soon. That was a fun time but yeah everybody that's it for today's draft We'll see all tomorrow. We'll see all next month for next week. And i'll take the heat and this being late because i had triplets business. Call today so give me shit for it or is a high. We'll see everybody.

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Mychal Thompson: Top 5 NBA today and Would Showtime Lakers beat '17 Warriors

The Showtime Podcast with Lakers Legend Coop

43:04 min | 1 year ago

Mychal Thompson: Top 5 NBA today and Would Showtime Lakers beat '17 Warriors

"I re watched the throw the Manila last week. Could end up. You know how people? Were talking during the last. Even today talking about how Michael Jordan's the greatest competitor in sports history. I said Listen Watch that eighth well with Ali Frazier. Three tell me that Michael Jordan's a tough competitor, the nose to. Cool podcast presented by nets. Online DOT AG on the. Media, as a quick reminder, please the button. If you have not yet already that way. Every time we released any podcast episode. And please give us a rating. It really helps other people find the podcast. Welcome listeners. You're listening to so time with coop. INSIGHTFUL BS with some of my legend, teammates and friends in the NBA and today's yes. Is Probably I played with a lot of NBA players, but he's probably one of my favorites, but he's probably one of the. Funniest guys high-school, college or pros that I ever played with and somebody who mastered himself as being the most informative, the most knowledgeable person in the world. Michael Thompson welcome Michael hopefully everybody in your family doing safe and everything. Good to talk to you guys you. Everybody in the state side and in the Bahamas has been able to avoid contracting the virus, so the Thompson family on both sides of the ocean have been very very blessed, and you forgot the also introduce your best looking teammate industry. I. MEAN! Rick Fox Rick Fox. Given Fox out of their Mattie with the Celtics. Man Michael. You're with my boy at first of all. What was it like growing up in the Bahamas? Well basically if you ever saw Gilligan's island. That's what I was a black delegate. Get off the island, but still living in paradise. To, the beach every day. Eating great seafood had a very close family. Everything was very close. Knit the Bahamas because it's a very small community. The Island itself only twenty one miles long seven miles wide. That grew up on, so it was like everybody knew each other in everybody's business, but the growing up very slow easygoing lifestyle, we'll be a very influenced by the United States because only eighty five hundred miles away from Miami, so a lot of Americans will come over. We get American television American products, so we were independent British Commonwealth type country. You're very influenced by American culture now, not knowing that basketball eventually what you grew up to be being six hundred seventeen. It wasn't sure I love you. I love with soccer. Soccer definitely We were like I. Say the British influence being never the British Commonwealth so soccer growing up. Was a huge sport in my my youth I love the NFL I leave. A like cricket is was a favorite sport. I do that. Allow coupes, crickets, sweets, warp, it and but then again I started I started getting older twelve thirteen years of age I started following the NFL Joel Name. My favorite quarterback has cheese was my favorite team. The Cleveland Browns but Leeway Kelly those guys who my favorite NFL team and I was so old group in the AFL in the NFL era. I'm there to empty. Fell and the browns might even the NFL so and then of course in the Bahamas the. Dodgers will always favor team, but Bahamas I grew up watching Sandy Koufax Don Drysdale and and really Davis. Maury wills break dodger teams so basketball coach speak too late until I was about sixteen seventeen years of age is when I started playing basketball. Mike you know what you said something very interesting. The Cleveland Browns was your football team back then. Yeah, People Umbro's. They were mind to Paul Warfield. That's who I live the most bit greatest wide receiver to me ever lived. Smooth wasn't number forty two. okay, so Mike. You get involved with basketball at seventeen, six nine and you're starting to play There's on record that you had sixty. One rebounds a game. Twenty two blocked shots in a game. I don't think that that's real. Tell you at actually happen I. Was Sixteen Years of age playing in Church. League we had like the all churches about seven or eight churches in. In the bomb started returns league down there, so members of the churches play against each other and I was about six foot six at a time. I didn't WANNA play my older brother baby play all. And I was a natural athlete. I can pick up any sport. I wanted to more let's before a great athlete. I was of course. The Locker Room I can say anything. But this is not new to you, so yeah, in one game I was the Bill Russell of that league mess sixty one rebounds of one Gamecube. That means a lot of miss shots, but I had to go ghetto. Actually keeping staff statistician, keeping stats, and I was a good shot blocker I. Always Walk Shots hours in high school, so everybody was. Around sixty dollars per game, so I was easy to block the shot, but twenty two Brockton game. Tell we'll try that and. I. Think Stats Panic because your church. That would probably keeping or something like that you couldn't like us. God was watching. So I was curious to find out. Why are you say your name like you do and I found out that you did because in college. What's the University of Minnesota? And you decided you wanted to kind of bring attention on yourself right in. Your name, the separate myself from the ordinary Michael Michael Cooper. They need there's only one Michael at the time like that and you know what guys I have met about twenty parents sets some parents over the years since my high school time who saw my name in print? The way was spell and said they would go name Kid Michael Anyway spent on the way Michael Cooper like doesn't. It because it was unique and different. So Go ahead coops are. Going along that theme. We're heading that way. How did bells come up? On Sleep, bounds or bells or was, it was I was in high school by the time. This is the early seventies Scott. I remember the time now early. At that time, it was lew Alcindor wilt. Chamberlain Bill Russell not so much Bill Russell but Russell. John just retired and the other said I'm sure you remember Walt Bellamy. Element now well building his player in hawks, right teammates the time at high school with teasing me because I was playing center. They all man you. You Ain't no lew, alcindor. You Ain't no, Korean. You Ain't. No will Europe Bell Bell. You'll like walked down. Your bells was stuck. And then one day I was We'll play pick up basketball GM like we always did it in those eight at that age coop, and I was making some sweet moves Kevin McHale Kema Lajoie on the post. Right a sweet. Scored on guys will and they were calling. Is The guy started? Going to be sick fails. Stupid nickname stuck well, you know what do the footwork because again, allies one. I came. Allies mind GONNA tested this. That helps your footwork in the low post so I. Agree with you on that. T I agree with you on that How'd you find your way to Minnesota? But also I was in Miami Florida. The time we were number high school team, but nineteen seventy four number one high school team in the country we so we would like the parade all American like the parade all America back then it was like McDonald's all American now out. How that's promoted today, but at that time they gotta remember. We didn't have twenty four hour coverage like we do now seven days a week, all of websites. We didn't have all that stuff, so they would just go around. The country watched dip in high school teams, and they decided that the our high school team in Miami was more high school team to the whole country for behaviors to Cubans, would i? Take. Minnesota came all the way down to Florida Miami to recruiting and. I had a choice to go there or Florida. Florida state of also Wisconsin and University of Houston with a big schools after he didn't WanNa go to Houston Florida state at the time there has there was basically the same as high school gym coup compared to. Better her. All just little low low bandbox high school gyms. I say what I don't want to go. Play some small gym like a Florida for Florida State, Minnesota the big ten of the time along with the PAC eight will consider the best to conferences in the country more so than the ACC in the SEC our houses now in the big east so I, said you know Minnesota's recruit is a great place. A great school so I went up there on my recruiting trip and January coup I left. Miami was eighty degrees eight zero got to Minneapolis. Teen one six. I said man people living stuff. To me. That's surprising that you would pick. That school was being bone chilling cold up there, but I mean some attracted your attention, and what wasn't other than that wells like I said the big ten conference at the time was the Invest Conference. Minneapolis is a beautiful city. Despite was going on in there today, of course, the riots going up, but it's a beautifully nice people of the Kent. Campus Minnesota's beautiful campus, so even though it was cold when I got there, it was a big ten conference. We will we have some other good recruits coming in so I figured we could thus challenge for big ten championship back then and myself and my team high school teammate Osborne. Lockhart came with me and we decided to go to Minnesota. Guys changed your flip flops and your short pants and the Suntan oil for So as you're going through Minnesota, some guy that I hate to this date. Kevin McKell joins you give. And I was a sophomore. He came in as a freshman I was two years ahead of him and going into my junior year he came in and I. Tell you he came even though he's a freshman goop. That's Kevin McHale. You saw Boston. EILLY skill the same guy as a freshman. Same skills now I was more the focus guy on the team so cabinet. Get US many shots. So offense SORTA ran through me most but Kevin came of complimentary player started immediately as a freshman and hang. Forty six six eleven, and with those long gangly arms A. Ahead of his game ahead of his game as a freshman with his skills and knowledge of the game he was. He was an impact player from the start. So Mike. Used to tell us this all the time and I just WanNa know if you've fulfilled this. Wish was what you didn't you want to talk about being the Prime Minister of the Bahamas. Those. Aspirations still. Well known to all of. You know I always thought I want to go back home and get involved in politics. Will help. My country and I really were serious about at a time I was thinking about when I retire I'm GonNa go back to the Bahamas and see what I can do to contribute to pay to give back and some kind of way and but I met, my wife will be here and we started having children in America and I didn't want to uproot them from ice in America to go back to the bombs and start over so that the railway. Plans to go back there and get involved in the local politics and see what I can do to help the leader and contribute and give back to the country because you know, be hanging around with you and magic and Byron and crew row already had all the fame and fortune. Out in the most honest politician in the world because I didn't need I, wasn't going into it for the money overpower because I really enjoyed that just being a member of the Lakers, I just wanted to go back and and humbly help out without enriching myself ATC why we love this guy. This guy is so full of himself, and it's incredible surprises, not coming out of his ears, but might if somebody's going to the Bahamas. What what? What's the best dish there? That favorite. There's so many good dishes coop. You never came down. I remember. I said by you Byron. Scott came out a lot bashing. Hang on the Bahamas. They basically became a adopted the hanes. You never came down there and worthy a try to get you guys. Come Down with you to come out out of giving you guys. Probably some piece of rice, black eyed peas and rice that here the state's only what we also have a big group. Media Fish White Fish and that's like our staple, our main fishing on so bake group, black-eyed peas and Rice Coleslaw I gave you some of that from my mother used to make. You don't want to become a behavior immediately. Dark Hey, listen So you go to Minnesota, and nine, hundred seventy eight senior year. You get drafted. The first foreign player drafted in the NBA by the Portland Trailblazers. What are your thoughts going to Portland? All excited. I I had enough of the Midwest winters in our I didn't want to stay in the mid West anymore. Because I wanted to get someplace, get away from the snow didn't want to go to the east coast that unlike these too crowded, cold over there, so I was looking forward to coming out to the west of the United States and I, being the incredible knowledgeable person that I am I knew all about they, so you probably don't even know where Portland was when you were coming on Mexico. Familiar with the map in the United States, the geography United States. You Beautiful Pacific Northwest Wars. Indiana at the time had the number one pick in the draft? I DIDN'T WANNA. Go play in Indianapolis I had enough of the cold. Midwest winters so when I heard the Portland trail was interested in me, and was GonNa drop me I was very excited about going out to the Pacific northwest of the country at lived in so I was looking for the gone out to that part of the country and find out what life is all about? You gotta remember to Koop back in those days. We didn't know who was going to draft US until. Exactly as before today we got mock drafts. We got websites predicted with. These kids are GonNA. Go. They know a unit band. Who's GonNa have the number one where they probably gonNA end up back then we just had to wait for a whole call. Find out where we were basically a day or two before the draft or even a day. Other drafts dot. No, we're going to go, so I was Kinda hoping I, knew Portland had a top three pick I was kinda hoping. That's where I would end up on the west coast somewhere. Now you know going there. You've stepping into some big yellow field because again. Coach Ramsey was there right Jack Ramsay. Now they had Bill Walton who existed championship before. Did you feel that those shoes were too big for you to feel no, not at all? Because even though I was taking the draft, you good point built Watson was still technically on on roster, and he was injured, but he was still technically a part of the Portland Trailblazers, so I thought that like you. I was joining a championship caliber team. They had just come off championship a couple years ago. Basically the same nucleus of the team was coming back. Everybody met Champs the team. Still there, there's only one missing was bill because of his foot issues is what injuries I. was joining a team with Maurice Lucas Lucas. Lyonel Holland's who's now assistant coach stacks with champion, so they thought I thought I was joining a championship caliber team and I thought I was doing. The tino is going to be better than you guys showtime. If we were healthy better than your mic weekend up there whoop yards ass every time we came in. Healthy older and we would have be able to beaching guys because they beat before the you are they beat? The Lakers reported. Get to the final so I thought. And these guys are all in their twenties, still young in their prime, so I thought the biggest. A healthy on joining a team is going to win a multiple championships. How does it plan for Ramsey? was very good. I mean the difference between him and Pat Riley. Very similar and their intensity and their demand demanding. Attitude they expect you to be a man. Hold you accountable. and. He was very organized. It's like riles ran. A great offense involved a lot of ball movement Dan. Move a lot of motion offense, so he's very similar, roused dress, as well as riles wasn't as handsome smiles and he was. Just a manager like Rosalyn expected you to do your job roused it. Who's your favorite team? Mate important? We talk me and my Julian Assange I. Talk about this all the time. I said my favorite place. Our team ever has obvious contracts. You know our veterans like four years ahead of him. When he by time came as a rookie, but I love my teammates, but Clyde Drexler favorite. Because soon as he came as rookie told Jack Ramsay I went to Jackson Jack. You've got a bunch of veterans on this team, but this his team from now this is Dressy, but you could see the Taliban trippy offer him. Even Michael Jordan was pretty impressed with him in the last dance. To be compared to the drexler when I saw the drafts, the had the potential be a franchise type player, the face of the franchise, so I enjoyed playing with him and my favorite Laker teammate time as you I was talking coming over to your house intriguing that Pink Champagne. Creek kissing my ass man. Just tell me he he has. He just tweeted out last month. His all-time Lakers list and he put on the bench. That's. Impressive list of twelve players. You're I. appreciate that I appreciate that thank you, Sir I. Think Coop should be in the hall of fame. You say multiple time all defensive plate player of deep as a player of the year. He has the same type of resume and Dennis. Rodman has an Rodman's in the hall of Fame five-time champion Showtime One. Those five rings without coop. He was just as much instrumental OUGHTA. Those Championships Bajic coup as magic, worthy and. A Korean were and Michael Cooper was just as valuable, coming off the bench, and I think the fact that I said this on the radio. All the time I tweeted back. If you're not in the hall of fame is a disgrace, because not everybody has to score twenty points a game to be all FEMA. Well Long I'm in your hall of fame fee. Appreciate that. Thank you, so you go to Portland. Get traded to the Spurs, and at some kind of way you end up with the Lakers and now you're with the Lakers. What are your thoughts joining our team at that time? I couldn't believe the difference and play for the showtime. Play for you guys. Because obviously I was eight year been in the League against you guys and like I said paper demanding coach Jack Ramsay, but the difference is you join the Lakers? We join your team. The difference was. It's nice to win, but when you join the Showtime Vegas, you are expected to win and all different level of pressure there are you come in, and so everybody wants to win. everybody hopes to win the when you play for the Lakers and the Celtics back in the eighties, you are expected to win, and that puts a whole lot more pressure on you and. It makes you you have to perform because people expect you to do and win disaster. When you're Portland or Utah or Kansas City go, you know they were Nice, cute, little team, but view the Lakers Minnesota. You failed to win. That's a major failure so pressure pain. The paint with a showtime lakes know what Mike and I always say this about Jerry West Jerry has been a lot of. Of places, but his time with the Lakers. Jerry has that innate ability to go out and get that one player. That missing piece that you had when he got you. We knew we won't win them. Because you have type of player that in I think through your time at Portland where you get all the scoring. It was about playing a role now and obviously we got you for Kevin Matteo. Your thoughts on Jerry. West Hi this is Michael Cooper there's no shortage of action going on at our exclusive partner Bet, online dot AG NASCAR is back, and that online has hundreds of gains events in sports to still get in on. You can bet on simulated NFL in the A and USA or even participate in ten thousand dollar madden bracket challenge, a march, madness style NFL simulation tournament. You can enter for free bid. Online has EXA. Kabul's Ron Harper Horace Grant Bill Cartwright and. And Craig Hodges joining them to discuss the Michael Jordan documentary on what they're calling the final dance, visit the website or use your mobile device and join today to receive your new welcome bonus and check out all the action. Bet Online your online wagering solution your thoughts on Jerry. West. I've said this all the time publicly. All radio shows I've ever hosted are been on. I said and twitter and public. All the time Jerry West is the greatest sports executive in history regardless sport. He put together a championships as a GM. Come up or president of team. Nobody's ever. Ever done that, except maybe Red Auerbach. Who was the president? GM, coach the Celtics. Nine but in the modern era, Jerry West is the most astute and the brightest exports executive in history. And what? What do you think made him like that? What are the characteristics of him? That created that well. He is a guy who knows how to spot talent. That's that's the main thing. He can just eager to pick out. A player is spotted Kobe Bryant. Nobody knew who this Kobe Bryant kid was Jerry West. Louboutins them to get him of. Grim James Worthy. Those exploring each Jerry West knows at a recognized talent. He doesn't look all his analytical crap. You know the people go through night just looks at the player within five to ten, many says that kid and play, and that's what I want because he understands how to play the Game Jerry. West knows to out who makes them the best and another thing. Thing MTA. You can respond to this a little bit. He knows when there's conflict within the team how to get them marquee star players to take him in office and sit them down and tell them what the purpose of the team goal is, or you told me that could be bought me into the office when I first came and joined the legs, he says. Michael happened to have you here. That's. Why. You come see me and we'll do something about it, okay? Here, that's the way it should be. If I'm the GM president of a team I would tell us single player we. We love to have you here, but you don't want to be here. Let me know we'll give you and that's how it was. I don't know anybody would want to be with the Lakers, but Jerry West was, he was up front with you. It was no BS, and if you unhappy, just let him know and he trade you trade your way. We told me. With the point now Mike well I have a lightning round I'm throwing name at you and just give us a couple of words about the personal. K. Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Listen than this morning as the word or two, but it ticks me off every time. The greatest player name comes up that he hasn't mentioned. It should be I. Notice go longer. I got to say this now. Don't bad. He's talking about the goat. The greatest player of all time this should be three names three names, and that's it. Okay maybe four throw a Roswell putting the brought a bit but George? Arena and wilt, those three should always be mentioned at the leave. careens name is just disrespectful and not knowing your history the game, so Korean I would go with goat greatest of all time, not Russell. I mean yeah. Levin Championships is the main reason wedding. I said that to our is a good point, people ask me who are the five greatest players in my opinion and I said it's Corinne in no particular order. Corinne Jordan Will Lebron Russell, also my five on. How can you leave off Koby poverty off magic. Lee Somebody off, but you write this discount or disregarded. Championships and he's the reason why they want. Magic. Great greatly greatest leader, ever and basketball great leader. Nelson Mandela. Aleksei that Nelson Mandela a man of his convictions, he would not back down. From his beliefs and they they said they would allow him out of prison in fact, if the if he went against his. Is Convictions and he said no I'll sit here for twenty seven years until we're free in South Africa, so it's a brave man. Beyond say. ooh, boy. I would say beyond say. Is. Visionary because she saw a vision where she could break out on her own and become legendary and. Destiny's child be mad at her. Why did you leave us behind? Visionary Mohammed Ali all man. He was my idol by sports eyelid GROWNUP COOP. Next to my son's, he's my favorite athlete of all time. Actually you, of course so Muhammad Ali. courageous. Because he put his life and his career on the line way chose not to go fight in a crazy war an empty. Yes, a good point because of the primary his life. He spent with three four years in jail man when he could have been busted people Ken Norton. Norton. I would say. Tough tough, he gave Ali three fights Ken Norton tough. And my last one thinking like this because it's GonNa, take us into our next segment. Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson. When I think of Mike Tyson what do I think of? I would say. He was. He was misguided because he blew it if he would a statement Kevin Rooney Yup and his original guys who promoted to he would have been much greater than it was. He just let. Let the wrong. People get ahead. Get hold on with Don King. Get your hands on. That's Meet Man. He just got misguided, just taking advantage of. Mike you're. Boxing, Fan. I remember many times. During the eighties, we used to talk about boxing in the locker room and We get involved myself. You Byron Scott James Worthy with throw some. Near obviously Korean and there was a moment where you and Byron into a little boxing skirmish. Always talk about this because Byron. Knock you out why? Couldn't knock me out. You guys you American judges. We're talking about it, but anyway we were talking about some of best matches that we saw the fight what? What! Byron was in a skirmish and Byron Cathy Chin might fail. Am I seeing that wrong might. Be Exaggerating the whole story to have already. Was the Aref Byrant escapes me along the Chin as soon as he me on where he says over. A SMART Dodge smart judge. The! Let's take it to the real fight. Talk about some of the best matches. Cigarette Burns the first one. That was a great fight. Tommy hearns had him beat, but ENRA-. Leonard was basically because I was on boxing him remember that fight happened last night and Linda showed a Lotta intestinal fortitude to come because he was basically out of that fight and had to go for the knockout. Pot of a bunch of points. And I remember. I remember. Leonard in with a right that staggered hearns and he knows. that. This is the one that I love the best was. A I hate the first one, but the second was bare sugar, Ray and Roberto Duran hands of Stone I. Love Her Iran durant. He bullied. Sugary, Let. He conned Linda fighting his fight. Yeah, thank fight, because let it was more of a boxer wolf, stylish fight, but he the WE'RE GONNA turn into a brawl barroom brawl, and that's the way we're a to beat them in Leonard wonder prove that he was as tough as Roberto so he felt trapped that house. And then second fight. Well rebuttal ate too much. Sugar Ray Leonard initiate that fighting went to do when he's supposed to do the first find. To a boxer, but then it was celebrating didn't train basically turned any reason release Anthony Joshua to hang out and train for the rematch. Letter Leonard didn't take the second I mean rape. Durant didn't take the second the seriously and Linda just beat him up well. He GonNa win, and he's so voted on him. Allie Frazier which one is your best one, two or three? Three. We watch the throne the Manila last week. Could end up. You know how people? Would talk and during the last dance. Even today's talking about how Michael Jordan's the greatest competitor in sports history. I said Listen Watch that eighth round with Ali Frazier Three. Tell me that Michael joins of Tuffah. Competitor than those two. How to human beings coop in one hundred and ten degree weather, our temperature Ari, inside the building, hundred and ten degrees, it was in that ring how humans can put that kind of punishment on each other and survive and live on never understand tells basketball player to get in a ring and survived that and tell me some basketball players more competitive, embalmed Ali and Joe Frazier ever was that was. An empty fifteen rounds back then to fifteen rounds already I dunno, Ugo, seeing the thrilla in Manila Dis Boxing Fan, do yourself a favor watch that and watch to human beings net as water. How do they? How do they both survive that and stayed at some Golfer or basketball? Players are tougher competitor than those guys. There's been a lot of fighters hagler mayweather now data Hoya who would be your top five, and not necessarily in category, weights, or lightweight or anything, but your top five fighters all time. That's easy, obviously number one it's about. One Muhammad Ali. Sugar Ray Robinson number. Two Joe Louis I would put the I gotta put amendment three. Four would be. Probably no particular I would say. Boy this is a great one. This is a tough one. Larry Holmes also. As. A great fighter and V gotTa Be Jack Johnson. Bracken waiting early nineteen hundreds of everybody. One hundred nineteen rounds right. Jack Johnson in the nineteen hundreds being a black heavyweight everybody was trying to Vice Chilin as amazing. And you listened to showtime with Coop. We have Michael Thompson and he's sharing a lot of knowledge with us. Go ahead Ari. Were you in boxing? The Bahamas. Is that what you love boxy comes from? Where does it come? Up in the sixties as a child, sixties and Muhammad, Ali was the number one in the world, and so we loved him in in the Bahamas of I. Agree with Mohammed Ali. And you also grew up a Lakers fan right Yep Lakers Jerry West wilt. Chamberlain building guys I, was eighteen Lakers lift artists. La Teams Eighteen. So how much like when you mentioned kind of come into Lakers? How much saved your career? You go from Portland to San Antonio and then allison who ended up with showtime and Kareem and Magic and in that locker. Room that's championship caliber. Like how much did your approach to the game change? Then if at all I was always ready to play or took the game seriously, but like I said once joined the Showtime Lakers Ari. The stakes went way up. It wasn't a dislike. You hope to make the playoffs. You hope to win expectations when you are expected to succeed, that puts a whole lot more pressure on this in the business world, whether it's sports or in just a common business when you're expected to be the best takes into a whole other level, so even though I always. Preparing myself to play I knew that. Joining this team it was it was no fooling around was all business about winning all about winning, not only the Well Michael in the eighties. It was a different kind of basketball. Because you're ficials, let us play a little bit more rougher. Obviously, to Celtic rivalry was real tough clothesline. Rambus Detroit Pistons the bad boy. Their Jordan rules slamming are by to the ground and officials as well as the. Commissioner has taken a stance game. What do you like about today's game? That is cleaner. That is more freedom of movement. Koop back. Then as you watched, the highlights the last dance of the eighties. The Games played below the three point line. Guys like maybe shot to threes a game, not a game. It's more spread out. Is Not all that physical play? Because would we would do. An eighties in the seventies was gone too far in the nineties. Those lying guys him. Back, then the flagrant files of the bay, which just common files back those dangerous basketball semi I like the way they cleaned it up and you're not allowed to lug people. Were you were in the seventies and eighties? What about? Always says this and I kinda agree with him. He says back in the eighties and nineties when European players started trickling into. The League is that they were hoping that the India would influence the European Lee, but it seems like the European League has influenced. Leave because you've got some big guys coming over from their. Starting with a lie device guys that that size could shoot three pointer so. I mean. What do you think about that? I think it's all right if you step outside the Joel embiid and knocked down the outside shot. That's fine I. IF Kareem was coming along today or Kim Malaysia on a will the great sense of the past. Maybe they wouldn't shoot more outside shots but or shack when you have such a force in the low post, that status will be played against goop. I can't see taken Kareem out of the post or wills or shack or Kim along with their so effective and filing out guys in the paint so if they came along today, I don't think they'd be shooting. As many threes I think that's probably sometimes a fault of Joel embiid he such a force around the basket. He needs to get his big, but down there and just punish guys in the paint in the locals away Shaqs to and just discourage guys, but I think taller guys like Robert Ory came along and distress floors of the day. That's fine as far the game that I was. My son's always asked me what I be shooting threes. I would knock him down to practice, but you and rows with. By Elena and not by position five best players in the game today. Lebron Anthony Davis Kawhi Leonard S three. Janas Toco and We're BMC eighty. Eighty hit many healthy staff. Steph. He's in compensation because he doesn't affect the game on both ends the way those other five do because we're not just talking about scoring the five that I mentioned can impact the game, offense and defense away to. You know Mike is the father of three boys agree athletes, traces of baseball player Mike might be son. Mikey is playing a big three, and then your other son. Clay is the Golden State Warriors have won championships. Do you think are eighties team? Could beat that warriors team two or three years ago of course. Why why because I know the tougher competitive you guys work and ups of our team was now I asked play the same thing Chris, says. Of course we could beat you guys. You guys would keep up. All you acid nineties, Pistons. They'll say the same thing. The Chicago Bulls out ambiance think they can beat anybody and there's nothing wrong with that so I told. You guys are supposed to believe you could beat on showtime team because we believe we'd be two guys. I saw champions think so I can't imagine any champion conceding that's another championship of could beat them. So yeah I think the showtime team could beat the wars now. We'd have to hope that they miss. Hold onto the threes. Because what we shot eight the game. They should eight threes in the first three minutes of the game. Be Physical with them. You know that's the other thing, too. Is Cow Physical? Could you be with them? Because that's you talked about the differences in physicality of the game. You know I mean that's a huge piece to. Would you play eighty style physicality? You played modern physicality. I think it'd be played any style. They would adjust and. I think it would adjust to it, 'cause he's talking about. We talk about staff clan dream on and Katie those competitors. They're not going to back down from me. Just putting handle. But you know I think this I think in the eighties the way we played other tent where the Celtics made us a little tougher Detroit made us a little tougher, but the one thing that we had mike you. Get in on this you want. I think we could change. Play any foul play. Remember. When we first started, we were not a physical team. We were a finesse team and I think that's why we would be able to deal with the warriors better than other teams, but you guys world finance team, but you tough mentally. Nobody's GonNa push guys around you know even though you guys fast and can run like gazelles and nobody pushing around Byron, Scott or James Worthy or Kareem or Better medicine career. You know what happens, there s around. And Bentsen about that. L., ball! So, even though you guys are more of a finance up and down fast paced team, you guys weren't going to back down from any kind of physical confrontations. These guys were tough guys, and this is the one thing I gotta give that Golden State especially when they won their first championship Mike I never thought that a team could win a championship by shooting jump shots, but that's the first team that really changed my. My mind on that, and even when they were going for the championship clay, and Steph and all guys shooting threes I. Say they can't win, but you know what the boy showed me something different man. Well, it's the it's easier coop Ari when you have the three greatest shooters in the history of the game, but I say on I I I'm I might be your bias because the claim, but no I'm telling you. Staff, clay and Kevin Durant three greatest shooters I've ever seen in this game. And when you shoot that way coop especially from three, you could beat anybody yet. We can play tough defense and I've seen. These guys were defense in their face. Even talk, but there three point shots demoralized teams the way they could shoot. I've never seen three shoes like that one. Season this year. Yeah I believe so I believe we're going to have one is getting closer. Where hang getting more and more positive news coming out of NBA headquarters by possibly reconvening so I think we'll know more. They have a big meeting today about the possibility of getting back but I think. I'm pretty sure we're going to be back in July some time and listen now hypothetically, how would you if you had control over this? How would you want the season? Play out because you've got to have a champion host. The play great question, go straight into the playoffs sixteen teams, whatever whatever the record store box attempt last. Of those sixteen teams go in, and if you just missed the game, the fails by a game or two. Hey. Sixty games to try to examine job done. What about ramp-up up games though? Any exhibition, or something to get you back into shaper, just start first round and go. Through this I think a two week training camp, and you'll be ready to go two weeks of hard training. These guys haven't been sitting around eating twinkies like me and you cou the last two months. They've been working in training, so it'll take them two weeks to get back in basketball shape. When this hit the floor running if he our light twinkies I, don't eat twinkies, but anyway. Listen, the Lakers or clippers, you think win the championship. Don't be in the West stupid. That's the stupidest question you've ever asked. Why God be kind whooped. All right okay. Lakers Lakers, when the seven seven gave in Staples Center Lakers Clippers West Prize Lakers winning the I don't see a seven I. Say six. Okay I'll take six, but I gotta get the respect they real. Old No more. They're not a ghost ship anymore. They're for real. They'll actually I don't know with. Hawaiian Paul George leading the way doc was doing a good job, so the clippers for real, and that'll be a very tough series when it comes down to those two who comes out of the east. You know who's GONNA COME OUT EAST TORONTO. That will coast one PM. The metal they beat Milwaukee before even have Kawai but boy they playing us if they got something to prove as we don't have Hawaii anymore, but we're still champion so I'm thinking Toronto Commodities. See Milwaukee coming out of there, and only for the fact is because they're getting better, and they're starting to not to rely so much on Janas scoring I think other people are starting to step up, but I do like that the championship savvy that Toronto has. GonNa carry them along way when they come back and say people the walkie last year, and and you go into a playoff series known you beat someone before that definitely weighs in your favour. Top last couple of questions might your top three European players in the League today? Obviously Luke number one. That's easy. So, he's number one like him. Wait a minute. Let me let me on love Luca. You kidding me. I can't believe Sacramento past him up I. Don't know what they were thinking or even Phoenix okay. So European players today. Janas, because remember years from Greece. On Luca number, two and Yokich number three. Your love Yokich boycott like yeah. Yeah List. has play his rehab. Doing great feeling good go works out every just about every day getting all the shots up moving around normally, so he's feeling good, and he'll be ready to go full speed next year. Be Back as good as ever. Michael last question from me for you. you know we lost one of the greatest greatest greatest Lakers and basketball players ever couple of thoughts on Kobe. Even though it spend three or four months. I still think about every day. Basin pops into my mind and I. Don't think about Kobe so much as the basketball player coop I, remember I was thinking about Kobe determines talking back the plane flights around the country, and without being the arena doing my radio show have to do it from the on site at the arena I four or five hours before game time and say at least four thousand four, gametime. Koby would be in their shooting up on his own. And after you finish shoot, he would come over and sit by me, decieved and talk. One on one conversations about life about basketball, teasing him about a being would be a showtime lakes, and I remember teasing him one time He. He told me to go. Do something with myself if you don't mean when I said you know. Kobe. You would have been a great fourth guard on our team. Behind you and coop coming off the bench with a bit been the greatest bachelor. Skin empty. Do what myself as you know. You would have been a great bench for the Lakers Kobe. s I remember teasing about stuff like that it just it just as a shock to my system that he's no longer with us. is beautiful, daughter Jonah, and all those other seven victims on the flight. When you lose someone, the members that chairs the most man and that's a great memory Mt. Sleep bells. Michael Thompson Michael Spell the right. Way Mich Al. thank you so much for being with us. Man I really really appreciate it. Thanks for taking me down memory lane never do that enough. Have a great day, Mike All Right guys, okay, so time with cougars presented by that online dot h. e.. L. S. media again. Please hit bet, subscribe button that way. You'll automatically get the latest episode soon if they're released and please make sure to give up the ratings we out.

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