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1058 D&S: Facebook Live Makes Everything More Interesting

The Nice Guys on Business Podcast

53:30 min | 7 months ago

1058 D&S: Facebook Live Makes Everything More Interesting

"We've been begging them to social distance for years. Now here's your covert idiots. Like I am like David Carradine to his. Who's the other dude this is? You're not gonNA come your not making a eighteen fifties black and white reference right now. Maybe it was not the sixties. It was totally the seventies dude. I don't know what you're talking about. Aren't you a little short to be a stormtrooper? Well everybody looks short compared to Doug and Stricklin that at least you're not as stupid as they are new body could be that stupid three days a week. They're able to hold it together. This is not one of those days. Welcome to fuck career with the Nice guys not apply no interviews lots of ranting and they sometimes stumbled onto something useful. Go figure now. It's time for a nice guys factory with the kings of fuck ary themselves. Doug Sandler and Stricklin Bonner House so the first question Mr Bonner. I am glad you are able to appear in court today. Like trial here. I have several questions so Mr Monir. Would you please place your hand on? His Bible raise. Promised to tell the truth as far as I feel like telling you so. Okay so why is it that how come you wouldn't want to maximize your sound quality right out of the gate and automatically plug you say what? How long did you go before you actually wired yours? Now it's true I guess I I really never thought about it that way. It takes me a long time but once I plugged in it wasn't like hey let me see if I can really drag down my connection speed here. Let me UNPLUG. I'm always plugged in now. Aren't you always plugged in? And why not? That's the problem So obviously I'm working from home and my day job computer. Yes doesn't have a cat five cable I have to plug into a A plug the cat five cable into a dock that the computer plugs into the dock has a cat five cable so yet right exactly why. You're especially you. Let's make it easy. It's funny because I never actually said spreadsheet name stricken Bonner on the other side of the microphone. Befuddled FRIEND IS MR Doug Sandler I. I'm really happy to see you. It's GONNA change the video because it's really dark can manually change that. I do that. I just turned on my light. How do I look now no? I'm really dark because I'm looking. I can change the exposure because of the way the room lighting is in my backdrop is dark right so often makes me too dark cake and you just just the record for a second. Can you give me access to record? Well I I gave you host capacity. I completely disabled every feature that I that I that I have make me because what I was going to do is can we livestream this on the nice guys community because the only people that are going actually be listening to this episode are here. Let me let me try this how to do that. From Zoom Co. Yeah well well here. You won't be able to do it to you need to do you need to change the host deduct. Sandler okay. I'll try it okay. I did a show that the recording stops all right hold on. We are still recording. Which is good. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA post this too group. I'M GONNA call this group. The Nice guys community were looking good and we are going to L. whole seconds preparing lives. this feel like. I did another livestream today with the with the guy that was actually a professional athlete and it was really cool. We had like one hundred and some odd views realty strick strick and Doug Shooting the Friday episode episode. Shit okay. I'm going to tag you stricklin and I'm going to tag me. Mike in their she actually see it even the my stickers upside down but okay Anybody Vive factory. Okay go live okay. We are now live on facebook. This meeting is now streaming live on fixed cash. I'm feeling like awfully official here. How do you feel about this or you so now in the results is to actually go into the Nice guys community and see if any questions come up as we are? Oh look at that. We are streaming live. We've been streaming live or ten fucking seconds already. This is amazing. I'm feeling good about this so I did. You have something to say going to add something here. Let me turn around with my wire for those of you who were have been listening earlier. If you're listening on the PODCAST. Is I wire into my day job computer during the week. Which and I just use Wi fi for my my My Turnkey computer and then on the weekends when I'm doing more turnkey work all weekend. I will plug in hardware but yes so you just have to switch back and forth. It's kind of a all right so first of all. Let me say a couple of things number one. Isn't it worth it for you to actually go to the extent where you would actually figure out how to make it easier for yourself because it couldn't be couldn't be easier for you just to figure out how to make it easy like like okay? I'm no longer using my office computer now using my regular computer. Let's just make this work? Why does that work for you? I'm GonNa try to translate what I think you were just trying to say like you were trying to say was by the way my empty. That's why all that explains it right there and I would love to have you go back and actually listen to this episode tomorrow Dover over right now you're thinking to yourself. I was perfectly clear strike. I know what the problem was when you listen to it tomorrow. When you hear my translation which is I. Don't you just switch the keyhole computers right? That's a good question. That's a really good question. I would have asked that question much simpler. I just couldn't figure out of a phrase. It's just think about it so I've got. Why on the on the turnkey laptop but so when I opened it it works you know if actually doing streaming if I'm not actually streaming with you yes is fine so in other words? I don't notice the difference until I'm actually zoom meeting. Every time I have noticed a difference every time it's like when we're doing the allergy calls. Which is our group launched and thirty two people on the call. Every time you talk it's like are you plugged in or are you not doing. I'm like why don't you just plug the fucking computer in? Isn't it just a computer? That's literally a cable just lying on your desktop. You just right in there. No not that. Not THAT EASY. It is not easy. I'm just trying to figure out the best way to explain it to you. You'll understand to know. New Kids is coming to mind all right like the answer is i. Don't think about it if I actually turned Wifi off from my turnkey computer. I would remember every time because I would be forced to remember at nine. Let's say okay. Let's do this. Can you do me a favor? I WANNA walk through this. I want you to experience it as it is actually happening live. Are you ready can you? Can you share your screen for a moment? I don't want to tell you what I'm doing. I just want you to do it. Which is very particular screen. I need to share. No top left has to now. Top left hand side that anything that will show. Your browser will be fine. Because I'm WanNa get to your browser. Show my browser yes. I don't have a browser obey right. Now well open. I want me to open a browser Polish. What you're trying to do. I'd be happy to try to help. But I don't want I don't want do it yet okay. They want to do it yet. So I'm not gonNa tell you what I'm doing there you go. You're right in the spot now. Okay now go to open up a new TAB new type in. Www DOT www hide cast allergist dot com off low jess dot com homerun baby so doug wait what you're trying to. You're trying to show me that. You are so unbelievably ridiculously tech savvy. Actually setup yourself I a runner I had marjorie do that. I just email internet email but I had to put the hoping together. This is a coup people. I guess I'll just com a lot. Podcast ALLERGIST DOT COM and listeners funk in fans everybody if you want your own podcast allergist. T. Shirt you. You can't have your heart. Can you have to be part of our turnkey team to be podcast? We may at some point. Come out with t shirts if there are enough demand merged that his podcast allergist fan. Like you are a fan of the podcast allergist but you can't have a pocket pretty good. This is pretty good but you know we have some new clients that actually SH ERICA. Gave us gave me the idea? She's like I would buy that t shirt. I didn't even say the word t shirt I just said podcast allergist and she said I would buy that t shirt and I'm thinking I wouldn't even let you know this strickland. I did not even use company dollars to make these tweets that why not why I wanted to. I felt inspired. I felt I feel grateful. I am so happy to be in this business with you and I am enjoying. I'm enjoying this. This is good. That redirect is pure awesomeness as Tim. Hill on the facebook page says I. Tim He goes. I'm so excited I get one. It is it is pretty awesome and yes. Tim Gets One so I got a question about zoom recording. With video right okay. Does it always show side-by-side video? Does it show speaker view video and you record an is that affected by the way. I'm looking at it right now. So it's that is an excellent question Strickland Bonner and let me answer this in the correct way and I'm going to say the answer yes. Zoom is so smart now they give you a copy of the audio give you a copy of this speaker view and they give you a copy of the gallery view as well early so it's actually creating two different video streams and both of them you are going to get all of them so what streaming on facebook right now on facebook. Don't want to put it on because I'll just get distracted talking. It's very here. I'm going to switch over to speaker of you for just a quick second and see if maybe in ten or fifteen seconds if it does but you know I thought of something very interesting here. I wonder if I wonder if I've only experimented with Oh Yeah Yup. I changed over to the speaker of you and it did it. Eliminates meet you completely. If I'm speaking in xenophon brings me up. It'll it'll bring you back so you're saying as I should just keep talking and not stop talking and then you get back because as long as I keep talking it probably will not let it slip back to you if I stopped talking even if you try to talk as long as I'm still talking I think it will probably stick with me so I just gotTa keep going and not stop not stop not talking and he'll say mealtime but it is interesting the way you personally view it on your screen affected because when I change it back and forth. Apparently it doesn't change at all as nothing to do with it because I'm not the one doing streaming I guess it makes sense streaming was looking at it the way you're looking at it streaming. Only if I talk louder. We come back to me if I speak Louder Than You. So yes oh my gosh so funny okay. So right now we have. Stephanie Serves Lynn Tim Hill and Alison. Graham who we have not spoken to. Long Time. Alice is witness. Process is also on with us as well rush con so many people are on with us. So wasn't is still doing her show. I looked at a week ago. We give a plug for it although just looked it up the other day and I've already completely forgotten the name of it all right. Here's what I'm doing. I am going to drop in the comments box over on facebook. I've just dropped in the comments box over on facebook the link if somebody would like to join our facebook all. I mean our zoom call which is totally it to me. I don't understand if they're seeing this in the past. How can they join us in the future? I know how that works. So don't know how Allison's Allison's is the reg- Resiliency Ninja podcast. We got her rolling and she has been running with it on her own. She's up to sixty episodes now. I'm sorry did you say you rolled? Allison what did you say I missed? I missed another heaven. Uh of wine there was Ryan Bo. Cross just joined us as well. What is going on Ryan hold on skipping over so many that we we haven't talked to alison like six or eight bond sell. We miss you allison so chime in and say hey and prosh- crush con- we've heard for like a year or more. I don't know if you if you remember this. Maybe you do remember this but just avoiding the obvious part of my past. I actually had an opportunity to get together with Prosh- face-to-face did you. Have you ever met? Yes wait a minute. No never met him. When did you get together with him? Now I met. I'm so so. Heather is heather. Pierce Campbell is now making comments on my hair. She's not here but she is way too. Many just did a voice over intro altro like ooh an hour and a half ago know and I and I commented on it but You did a very good job on that also wait a minute. So process came to DC. This is going back probably three. Maybe four years ago. I think it was for that very brief moment. Yeah I was married very brief moment. I was married for the second time. Do you remember that brief moment? I yeah it was a little blip in the radar your remember your second Second ex wife right so yeah my second ex wife exactly so I was there and hanging out and we. We had a good meal together at a place called Fish Taco. We did that in In Cabin John Maryland had a great time and then I think he was working on some business or something. I don't really remember always working on. Business is a big data guy. Big Brain always working on business. We Miss You. Brush Ryan left a message he says. Hey what's up brother? I think I owe you a message. Response I don't know if Ryan owes a message but we will be happy to accept a message any point at forty two forty two DJ. Doug speaking of which do we have some voicemails from. Jared where I think might have some voicemails from jared but share my screen to get to. We share the screen way. Can you share your screen? While I'm while while I am host or do you need to do that. Yeah sure computers you share your screen. I think we're good that you can do that. And you'RE GONNA put it sin split view so it's just like that in the one side. I don't doesn't work that held on. Let me see what it looks like before you let me exit full screen Just hang on a second before you hit play because I'm really damn. It actually does show with screen on facebook. Fucking awesome technologies amazing. I love that okay but I'm GonNa shut up because it will only show one or wait a minute. No I can actually do gallery view now with screen sharing. I don't know if will work with the screen I don't well. It says it's doing it but you don't see how it's doing it but it doesn't matter you go ahead and play it. I think it should be good. Okay here we go offline. Aw Screw you WANNA know the funniest part is your like your. What is it called head banging head here head banging however you can't hear so I can only see line of audio going. I can't hear anything at least I don't think Y- not sharing the audio on facebook. No I don't think it did. I don't think it you hold on a second before we go any further. If you're listening on facebook live right now in the nice guys community. Can you tell us if you heard the audio of the of the audacity that came up and if you can't it would be very similar to what we experienced with Yeah we heard it. Nice thank you Ryan Okay. You did good all right you ready for the actual voicemails all of them. Wow Yeah let's just play number four. Are they in the right order? They are definitely in. The right. Order went to painstaking sticking after last week's to here we go salute. Jarrett here so I'm listening to the wonderful episode. I just get started. And then you guys actually. I'm just get started. You guys know I would never miss an episode of Nice guys business. Podcast well at least a fucker episodes anyway. Any reason for my call you guys are just get started and Jenny Cine Bellenger. I love Ya bye voicemail just from. Giannis here does just because you got sidetracked with cities voicemail. Doesn't mean you need to delete mine voicemail. Go Man Straight me. Shake my head. At least I listen to Jimmy today. Just not used not youtube guy. Who's not and how much listed the Damn I guess left voicemail and you missed it. I A strict questions for what you are doing in the background here. Because you know that I am a fan of of Hindenburg and I have now using it as my audio editing software for my Mustang podcasts. Which is about to go over twenty thousand bucket downloads? He's in under a year. So here's my question. How do you how do you create that small little dent of of Of of recession sound. How how do that? No Man I'm so fucking amazing. What are you doing you go? Click drag right highlight. I'll make it bigger so it's more obvious. Okay please make you drag. Oh I can't see any of that you pick it up. I'm looking at the wrong part of the screen so looking face smoking bicker so we do it again. What are you GonNa do it again? Do it again. Can't Click Drag my God? Oh my well that was weird because you can do just a piece yes cool is it automatically fades down and you can change the angle if you want to. But usually it does a nice. It's so amazing. Oh my gosh and you end up wanting last winter all those extra features that you have in there when you hit the When you hit the but on the over on the left hand side there I tell you because it's the equivalent of spreadsheets. Okay you go these are plug INS. I've got my D- Clipper my. Es or my noise remover. Remove verb remover plug in. I had a esser once but I had to give it up because it was a dictator. He's going to do. I should have had a couple of drinks before we started this. Are we ready for more? Voicemails from the next voicemail Ryan Book is asking. What is the what softwares that? This is actually the HINDENBURG. Editing suite at Strickland has so graciously turned me onto and he does a lot more editing in his day to day activities than I would ever do. He teaches me. He's like I feel like I am like David Carradine to his. Who's the other dude other? You'RE NOT GONNA make us right now. You're not making a nineteen fifties black and white reference right. It was. It was not the sixties who totally the seventies dude. I don't know what you're talking about. Hold on a second. Can you just go over to Google for just one second on my other screen? I was going to try and protect you to be nice. Let's just do it? Wynn sue see what type income for what did say. Kung-fu fucking panda right did come. They're not what you're talking food. That Guy I was AIDS. I was eight years old. I was I thought it was like the sixties. Snow is totally. I was so right. It was not the sixties meme realizing it was the seventies. It's just as bad. It's just as bad. Just even a guy like Ryan Ryan who is it was listening to this is Ryan. Forty maybe liars for those of you watching. There's Allison Grande Doug. Doug kept like you know moving away but we also we miss. You glad that you are still doing your video doing your your podcast and doing well. What's what's this video with blonde. I'm a fan of the dark hair house I'm just saying but anyway. I'm sorry. Was that wait. That's not are you saying that. She's changed her hair color. Since since. I don't know which is look at that video. I mean looks like she's blonde on the video very interesting which is making a personal comment about never mind talking. I'm not sure which I like her better as a blonde or a Brunette. I'm not sure care better. This is only a free screen. Grab of the video anyway. You know if we actually see it in action it. Maybe it'll look candid about resilience with very trade advice. Many audience things going on. Hey I'm surprised it wasn't like an audio pop up. I know that would have been home. Video pop up. That would really moving crazy yellow. Meant I prefer. I mean so allison by the way Graham. A beautiful woman. Either WAY DARK-HAIRED. Light here so good either way you're not going to dig yourself out of that when. I'm sorry so you could just play some more voicemails from Jerry. We only have four more. Oh go ahead. Let's do it next patient. Voicemail number food to dose I am lifting every gesture. Jenny second voicemail and it made me realize Hey Jenny I need to give you a shout out and the first four. So Oh my God. Crack me the But from a season pro of harassing east guys. Tell voicemail number two number three on the report and I got a blew me out of the Water. I think the most I've ever got to three or four so well done I'm excited. Keep listening to rest of it. Was this show guys. Keep it up and Doug just let. Strict pain is lanes dangers. He'll handle all the checks you worry about so that appropriate was more. That was such an appropriate message for today too because all about I'm just trying to figure out how the tech was I really just don't know how tech works I. Just don't. It's amazing. We started this. What would you consider turnkey it? We're not a software as a service company however a lot of the stuff that we do really does involve deep cuts software kind of so. But that's all the tack back and it's really not because we we do the software. I don't know Dunno. We do with websites. Yeah but we are not software as a service that would be more like acuity is software as a service correct so we just use software as a tool so that would be more like set generates an excellent point. I hadn't thought about it. You know he does a hey winnie leaves multiples voicemail number two voicemail three to keep it easy on us because Lord knows we need it easy. That's good to know so if you're going to leave multiple messages please make sure you number. The is like we're going to have specific things that we're now going to ask them to do the people that are not leaving us any messages. Where actually GONNA ask them to do something specific as what what happens with the? Meta like if I'M A if we're streaming on I'm trying I'm with looting video put that streaming video back onto the screen that sharing so in other words what you're saying is you if you put our facebook live on through our facebook live. I exactly know maybe going. One hundred pages deep. Strictly be lighted all sucks into the doing it right now right now. It's doing. We have now one level deeper and then one level deeper little deeper water million people currently viewing God. Oh my God I can't even see it anymore is so deep. It's so funny okay. I pulled it off screen so we leg work is yours. Can let's get voicemail. Hey wait a number three thank you. So did he finished second voicemail. As you said you'RE GONNA leave it up to you guys to debate. I don't even remember what you're talking about. I'm I'm going off the rails here But strict I just wanted to from what I hear. You're probably going to lose that debate because from my understanding Doug is the master. Baiter WANNA show you know soon as he was going to send me up. Sorry I'm raising their best road going up so I was getting ready to tell jared that he he broke his own rule When he first said. I think you're going to lose that debate because of course I don't remember what the fuck debating right. And since jared Jerry didn't say hey I think you're going to lose the debate on X Y and Z. But then I realized it did matter because we were debating about was not the setup doug being the master. Bater was up for the joke. So jared was actually being efficient and leaving out because information that was not needed to tell the joke but hatched so really. You know it's funny. That would be called like a tow truck joke like you need to tow along your guests if you actually have to share like that would be something I would do. I would tell the background. So people understand the MAC story and forget about the whole punchline which was actually the fact that I'm a master baiter wouldn't be good. What kind of like. I'm doing right now. Ruining all understand what I'm saying right yet. I let's play some more allegations Jerry. Here voicemail number four you did it. You got to break my three own. My Gosh Ginny created a monster. So I'm saying man I just finished listening to the end of it and I gotta say. The Easter egg was phenomenal. Doug don't worry about how long or do you just let me enjoy my Easter eggs man and the whole term Easter. I think maybe we need to rethink this. I'm thinking fucker eggs or your yeah I think maybe fucker eggs I would leave it up. You guys decide but I know you never would. So we'll just start calling fucker eggs. What do you guys think hop in the facebook group and let me know what you think if that sounds good guys keep it up and Dude people the ending. That was just awesome here and all those new ones so and hear your guys is reaction strict listening to made them even guys have a good one rash next week. Maybe still listen to other voicemail. Anyway call sags way. That's too close to fags and I don't think I appreciate her like that. That's what could we call. Those are tuning in right now. We have a handful of people that are on live on facebook right now. Instead of Oh tim hill fireball eggs. That could be really good. That could bonus fucker e Yeah I dunno fireball. Likes the bone eggs bone eggs? That could be good now. That's too much. That's to challenge about We'll we'll let the let the letter oddly should do wine and fireball and my system all at the same time wine and fireball. My fireball is still holding on from last night. It was a really challenging day to day I had several meetings and I felt hung over until about noon today. This social distancing thing is not working well in my alcohol intake percentages because I have been definitely consuming a lot more alcohol in the days that I am socially distancing which is every day which is pretty much every day. Yeah I'm with you I'm with you. I'm definitely been drinking. Well you know it was funny when you said Hey. Can we do a short episode? Because I have a date with a Margarita. Wasn't sure is there a woman named Margarita? You're talking to or. Is there actually Tequila Margarita? Away again in Margarita. Funny I was thinking tonight. Maybe I wouldn't drink at but now we're recording are episodes like I should have been drinking before it would've made more interesting so I just wasn't. I wasn't feeling it before we started recording and I wanted to. I was trying to make the doughnuts right. So have you had a chance to actually go out and experience like people in this whole thing? I mean how much you'll go to the grocery store a couple times like in a really experienced people doing that and like I'll go out driving and just crank in a roll the windows down crank up the the tunes but other than that. Let's like now like no contact with people which all of your kids and your house right now. Do you get any quiet in your house. We don't three twenty year olds right. Yeah Okay and one of them gets up early like one of them is normally up by like seven seven thirty and the other two typically stay up till twelve one thirty in the morning so it was like and you have a you have a four bedroom or a five bedroom house or bedroom with a den. So I'm in the den right now. The office yeah and you have one of those houses that has the master bedroom for your free for the elderly. Couple the main entrance so that It is it is a master bedroom on the first floor right which we wish like Texas. So it's exactly what I was GonNa say like when we got here. I was like commenting on while the master bedroom's the like going up and down the steps you know right. I would think it's like for People. My realtor my realtor was was like that's like like nobody wants master bedroom upstairs like you. Idols operation from the kids. And I'm like oh no I totally don't when I and JJ and I are are moving in the next couple of months our lease is up at the end of June. And we're going to move to a town. That's about an hour and a half north of US called Ohi and I totally want a either a single level or if it has a second level all I want on the second level are maybe offices. Are they recording studio or something like that? I don't want steps and not because I'm old because I don't feel like I'm all I just have to. Why am I dealing with steps the other thing? That's really challenging is on the second level. It's always hotter than the first level. I yeah go downstairs right now. And it's probably twenty degrees fifteen degrees cooler on that entry level as it is to the top level because he just collects up here. Well I will tell you one thing here in this house because it is but it's like an open floor plan so like our film room opens up to there's big bonus from upstairs you can hear everything from everywhere like in every room in the house. I really was one of the things I did. Like about my old house and we had two floors plus basement. Must like you could. You could have a little privacy and get away all right. So we got one more voicemail from Ryan and then we probably only who'd I say Ryan that's right? We'll have another glass of wine. Doug I was drinking Rosaiah tonight. I Haven't had Rosanna very loud. Wrong time really do enjoy. I'm so just not a wine. Drinker still really. I'm just I know. So you got one more voicemail from from jared. We're going to play that and I have no idea because we're on Zoom right now exactly how many I did want to mention before we play this. Let a plane on a mentioned on the other side. If I remember ahead please go fuck it off there so I'm more on the Karaoke. I love just listening so i WanNa let her know. Join into the Karaoke. If you WANNA saying don't want the same whatever but at school creighton that and you don't have to listen to me saying so that right there just I just WanNa make sure because I was worried that when they said I was on the scarier way I am not seeing repeat. I'M NOT SAYING DURING THE FACEBOOK. Nice shortcut DOT COM and Getting a group get on the calls all right guys. Show any voicemail. Especially jared but from anybody that starts off with fuck it. I think he was just like giving up because he was leaving so many messages. Well exactly so many messages and the know the best part is. I don't even remember what I was. GonNa talk about. Had something to say. It was so very important but I knew I would lose it and I was soon as you said. Well if I remember I was GonNa say to you. I should say now. 'cause YOU'RE GONNA forget and I know it's good. I'm glad I I'm glad I couldn't remember. You know this was a really good week. I really enjoyed the weak unemployment kicked in my P P P P kicked in one of those two. I'm going to have to give back but you know what they're going to need to come after before talk so you gotTA P loan. You got unemployment. Which is right. Hang you six hundred dollars a week. Et CETERA. Then you're making a lot more money than you're making before. I think I'm making close to maybe three million a year now but you know what what's been challenging my entire DJ business. Which was the reason why I needed to go with the unemployment thing entire day business between now. I mean I. I had a good conversation with our good buddy Robert and he is thinking that no one is going to re book through the end of the year. I mean that means that everything that I had booked between literally marched first and December thirty first. Is it not that it's wiped out because they're probably are gonNA reschedule but the majority those are? I mean they're gone now. I have no income no income I mean fortunately for Turnkey I mean you guys are holding all your money back so it makes it very very hard for me to make a living strickland and I don't know what to do I I don't know what to do. You know there's a cord outside. That's waiting for me to come out and start. Begging begging time is from seven thirty PM to nine thirty PM until the neighbors come out and I don't really good job. I play the Guitar. I do some blues handle. It's all feeling good about it. Yeah I guess we gotta get this turnkey thing going to make some money. How do you think we? Oh you know what what's interesting about it is I do see on facebook now. There is a barometer. I can see. We've been live now for thirty three minutes and ten seconds. Okay okay then yeah we got to show off your podcast shirt. I got to show my podcast Oliver Shirt. Whatever that is my pob. Comcast knowledge is shirt. Yeah we We gotTA figure out a way to turn the corner with turnkey. I am so ready for a paycheck. We're we're getting there. We're moving in that direction are you. Are you sensing maybe sometime between now and two thousand twenty five that that might happen? That'd be more of that. That's all I'm going to say. Thank so bad or B. Before I don't because right now I'm pretty sure and he's he's right here on facebook live with us. I'm pretty sure that Tim Hill is making more money than me right now. I'm pretty sure. Hey you know who joined US Steve? O'brien Stephen Ryan is all right now. Steve O'Brien is on he goes. I missed the best part of the show. Obviously he thinks that we played voice over to begin this show. Well I could. I could do the ALTRO. Here's a great idea. Let's save myself the hassle editing and altro right right sure do it right now. And that way since Steve. O'brien has actually listening. I gotTA figure out I gonNA find the right one. I'M GONNA use my favorite long altro. Oh okay which is the one that is mostly Steve of Ryan made it Hang on closes. Hey wait wait. Are you showing? Show your screen. Whenever wanted to see. I mean literally here all moving into the so. We actually see the folder. Okay wait a minute. That'd be funny actually. This is one of the best things that we have in. We show okay. So here's my folder for for Nice guys on this way can you? Can you open that part of your folder? Your screen up a little bit wider because we can see it but we can't see I guess I gotTa Change. The view is too small to widen that screen. A little bit. What do you mean why there you go? Yeah Yeah just do that there. You go perfect. I whatever it just one day but there's no more whatever I wanted to see volume but you're not gonna see more because of the way my lay is whatever. Just do it. Okay listen to these are my closes. These are my opens. These are my pre-opening okay. So here's the list are here closes. That's just the clothes and some Easter eggs. Okay but that's the that's the shortlist Here's the open. That's all the opens and then I got a folder called new. Which is all the ones that he recorded. Last time that I do drinking for a month I have no idea what that is but could you just play that just because very areas what that is drinking drinking for a month it was just in the last. Fold where that you were in. I don't know where it was yet drinking for a month. It's like the fifth one down there. It's going to silence all right. Let's hear for a month. I don't remember what the drop is honestly. I don't know what it is either straight. Oh I know I remember what it is. Okay but here. Good so corona virus. Gotcha down personally. I'm giving up drink for a month. That came out Ron. I'm giving up ranking for a month out the man. The Myth legend the master master. I just want to keep hearing. You know what else we could do. I could play his A. Did you ever hear his new? His new not the drops his new real. Because I was going to make a video of it didn't couldn't play off. I couldn't post audio to facebook so I actually had to make it into a video so we I love the beginning of it because it's really funny on Canterbury St. Oh here guys medical dental here. We go Now here this is the first one running is so much fun. Said no one ever run eaters like really really hard sale of the ruling is like really really fucking hard right and he has he has to be. That'd be tight but it's like you say. Drop the F bomb all the time. This is my favorite like the medical demo like multi focal osteomyelitis is a disorder that causes bone pain due to inflammation in the bone snack caused by infection. Doctor Might Treat your child with medications like Malaysia methotrexate or even biologics like Ambro in fetuses with Milo meninga seal hind brain. Herniation comes by the downward displacement. Sara bellum use real words Steve. O'brien use real words. Are I need something that brings me back to reality? Can You bring me a nice guys on Biz? Hey bring me a six pack of that. Nice guys on Business Open would you please? You ought to open to wrap it up. Okay I can play the open. If you're not ready to leave you just play something else. I'm not ready to go. Let me find something phone then. You know there's still use that often. 'cause they earn. Oh maybe a rash. I mean what I do. Love the okay. My favorite. My favorite egg is one that Steve O'Brien wasn't planning on having as an egg. Play it. I mean somewhat often the mail truck Snafu that because you know seventy voice overs force. I'm like you don't need to gladys is that his male woman's name glad it's now you're probably thinking boy am. I glad I left the kids at home for this episode. The Ellen here that there's the fucking mail truck always has laurent me. Crazy is one of the few sounds. It can penetrate my fortress of solitude here melt and the mail eighty. She's a sweetheart too. It's not her fault not at all it's A. Us fucking government's fault. Damn it drives me crazy. When we get drops for Steve and it's like I'll just send him ten quotes something. He'll just read them straight. I'll get like two or three reeds each other. Show editing or anything. Because we don't need that shit anymore rich easily. It's like Oh can you just say you know if you just sent an email to Steve to say? Can you just give us like four more can do that or four? More opens former closes former anything. If you just said I just need to more would he have any idea what to do or could he? Would he just go? Ooh So every time I send him stuff. I always put a note saying. Hey obviously Improv. Everyone always sends extra shit that I didn't right. That's that's much funnier but you know I wanna make it worth as wild right like I mean. The guys are professional. If he's going to just turn on the Mike and hit record not going to give him one or two. I'm GonNa do I well. I'm sorry maybe my the number I gave you was wrong. Can you just say we need opens or we need closes or does he need more direction in that? Now I I do. I do write them up because I wouldn't want to put the kind of pressure on boys. Hey Doug new open right now. No I was serious serious. We don't we don't want to pressure a voiceover guy like that. I know WHO's totally legit? No I can't I can't do a voice over just like I can't do that shit that he does. I know that shotgun microphone. I'm like I want to have those kinds of microphones. You can't buy that. Mike how much do you think that microphone is depends on what can shock on it as you can get a half decent shotgun? Mike for one hundred fifty bucks. I mean what's the reason for what is a Shotgun Mike? Do for you. That like this microphone doesn't do for you. Shock is hyper cardio pickup pattern. Which means it's very very very focused. So if you are in your office and doing a recording you don't need it right. What if you're somewhere like Stevo? The picture that we have with Stevo is shock on Mike in his car right so I'm assuming he takes that Mike along with him when he travels somewhere because he never knows what the environment might be right and so even if he's in his car if there's a lot of noise outside the shock on Mike will help reduce the noise around. Because it'll be very focused exactly right in front of a couple of things that are amazing about that number one. It's amazing there's a microphone. Amazing thing number two. You know the purpose of Tim. Hill dropped a dropped. The Special Steve. Martin bomb can I- Mambo dog face to the banana patch? It's like hey when you get around kids I got really weird trick that you can do talk wrong. You remember that you remember that. At all vaguely remember that. That was one of his jokes. I CR Yes yes well. The rambler inland man. I'm rambling God. Rooted in debt drew and car and hotel. Yes Oh yes. Oh Yes oh yes oh yes oh yes oh no. Dutin calming apostrophe. Oh ramblin you don't remember any remember it that's crazy. I wasn't bad all the fucking time. Unless he steve. O'brien has got to get up early for a client or I'd be watching. Tv or not listening. Let's see here. You got to hear your best drop This is my one of my favorites but this is such a great read and it's funny because it's so inappropriate. Now he recorded this episode like four Hundred Right. Yup exactly over one thousand shows South there thousand show it just feels like it fucked up delivery the delivery so perfectly it just feels like what's amazing about that is that I mean. Would you ever even thought we would have made it? Two thousand shows what are we. What are we fucking doing like? What are we doing exact? Where are we going? I don't know but we should wrap it up. I'M GONNA play my longest. Altruism I love from Steve O'Brien because the script that I gave him for this and I've told the story before but it's been a while we may have one or two hundred and I sent him the script saying don't try this at home. Duggan stricker professionals. Okay that was it. That was the entire script was. Don't try this at home against trigger professionals. Right so doug. Why don't you say are closing line? And this'll be our ultra. Wrap it up all right. I dig it all right so we actually have been enjoying the podcast episode this week but I do need to get back to my Rosa right now so I gotta go. Make Marguerite. Steve's Steve Strict got a date with the Margaritas. So Steve O'Brien go ahead and take out of the Nice guys on business are professional podcasters. Please do not try. This at home may seem simple kids but lots of people get hurt in the process void where prohibited including Mexico. Puerto Rico for Donia or your in laws. The Nice guys on business are not responsible for any claims of liability or any guarantee that these two morons what they're talking about there is no promise that being nice to people will help your business the calling people hassles dumb incontinent. Quads will definitely lose you business for any and all claims shouldn't one hand in wishing the other and see which one fills up. I thank you for listening to the Nice guys on business podcast. I'm Steve O'Brien I actually had to do. An edit of our music for that because the lengthen it right. We got this end clip. That's the longest one we ever need. Ten seconds fifteen seconds. Or whatever Omega this is so brilliant and it's going to be so much funnier if we have the music bed going all the way through actually re edit. It just fit into that totally worth. Maybe I'm thinking this wrong or maybe my brain is just not on properly right now but are we inside and Easter egg rate. I think we can get out. I mean but you know what's even work like if we're inside and east drag now. You know what that means if I share the screen. No I saw. I saw this. What is happening that yet? Screen off. Now. How do we stop the audio but how joining so now? I'm watching that on facebook right now as you are doing and it's going Oh my God and you're scrolling down there and we play. I don't even. I don't even know what to think about that. How that cash? Look at all the comments to Lord. Have mercy say something so does we are within in eastern. Here we go. It's getting ready to do our loop in a minute. I think I it's it's catching up and we're just GONNA have to like ended on this easterner for those of you. Were just listening watching. What should I sure dot com? You have I was GONNA start looping right I don't look there's three of us billions insiders and here we go. There's the delays. So it's doing the next one. Oh God do another one in and it's no. You've already done this. Once we are we are in right. Now I don't even know what. The real screeners strickland. There is. No real screen anymore. Green drugs makes another related. Steve O'Brien give another drop in other out drop in other words but I can't see it on the screen in the industry We go out and well. Let's do. Oh my God you know what I just realized Strickland Melissa. You joined the facebook live. That means you were in the past right now dude other way too nice guys on business. I'm Steve Brian. Thanks for listening bartender. Doug Cosmo in Stricklin is going to have a fireball on the rise. Not The little glass. Yeah the Big One. The twenty four outsor- and they both like a little umbrella. Just Gimme the bottle and charge him as much as you can buy since this is an Easter Egg. We'll have to end it with proper strategists. Here okay then I'm GonNa hit. Stop livestream. What are they make? This a pterodactyl a broach. Just WanNa tell you all good luck. We're all counting on you. 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86. Zoom Life

The Long and The Short Of It

20:05 min | 6 months ago

86. Zoom Life

"Hello Peter Shepherd Hello Gentleman. It's nice to see you here on this zoom call on my computer. Oh you're the same in the same space that I always see every week. Yes but this time I wanNA actually get a little. Meta which I know you love to do. I would love to talk about being on Zoom Yes I mean you and I both spend a considerable amount of time on zoom. As does everyone in this current climate. So I think you could be with us talking about what looks like to spend time on zoom effectively and perhaps on effectively. This is the long in the short event. Okay Peter. You recently told me about something that I thought was so spectacular so I would love for you to share with our listeners. If you don't mind how you've been hanging with your family during the global pandemic Such a good jumping off point. Okay Yeah So. My brother prompted me a few months ago. Actually when this pandemic kind of kicked off to to create a zoom coal for the family and I was like yeah. That's a cool idea. Why don't we do a zoom coal and to me for context like I've been facilitating and having conversations on zoom for like three years? I think now now for my parents they didn't even know what zoom was. So we've got different ends of the spectrum coming in here and so what I did was I thought okay. We'll create a zoom and I'll do it for an hour and I'll dislike a saas out. How the first little bit goes and then like myself permission to create the lack on the fly so the first the first five minutes of Zukile so my family is a group of extroverts who love to talk over the top of each other which is a running joke in the family. I'm sure that it mommy's saying and so the first five minutes of CO was chaos. Like I'm talking pandemonium. Everyone talking over the top of each other. I just sat back and kind of absurd and sort of had this out of body experience where I'm like. I wonder if this is what it's like in person where we're in the same room. No one's listening. Everyone's just talking and like my mom's asking my brother how he's going but at the same time my dad's asking my sister she's going like this is just so stupid so it got to a point about five minutes in whereas like all right. That's it and I'm muted. Everybody and I just went like full the facilitator slash coach on the situation. And I said what we're GONNA do for the next five fifty five minutes is I'm GonNa ask a question and then each person is GonNa have an opportunity to answer the question which will get to in a second I think. He's like my philosophy for an effective simcoe which we can get to and so I started off by saying something like okay. What's a book everyone's reading at the moment when you already one at a time come up and then you can nominate? Who GETS TO SPEAK NEXT? So I was like dad. I want to start with you. What book reading. And he comes off and he's like oh I'm reading this over to you. Who is my sister and Blah Blah Blah and so we run around and then I was like okay. Cool next question. What's what's been happening in your world in the last two weeks relation and they start to share and then okay what about in the next few weeks so I did this like structure of I ask a question and then everyone gets an equal opportunity to respond. It was magical. It was magic. You could see like everyone on the screen being like. Oh this is an interesting way of communicating like. We're listening to one another and we have an opportunity to speak and at one point. My favorite moment was my dad was speaking I so I got mom and dad on separate tiles. My Dad was speaking. And you could see my mom's mouth trying to talk over the top of him but because she was on mute no one could here and I was just like this is such a perfect moment of why the new feature is victim. Everyone's having an equal opportunity to speak and so that was how that went. Now we've since created that as a recurring standing meeting every week. I've introduced them to break out rooms. I've liked done. A whole bunch of experiments on zoom. But all through the Lens of how I think about facilitation with just the audience being my family this time. So that's the context. I love it so much okay. So let's back up for a second. You mentioned that you have a zoom philosophy. So what's the philosophy okay? So this was actually a prompt. A couple of folks in facebook group asked about which was like what ineffective zoom look like and it was Florence and Dave so shout Lawrenson Dave thank you for the question and my response to them which is sort of what I said to you. Elliott Zoom Philosophy is I think about it as forwards but it's probably five words if you include the annual the EPA sand and is to ask questions and to hold space so ask questions hold space to me. I like to simplify things. And that is the simplest way I can describe a really really effective zoom coal. Which is the host asks questions and then hold space for people to respond. So that's like my thirty thousand foot pete's summary of an effective simcoe. Had he not that I feel great about it and I also feel like I've heard you say those four words in relationship to the word empathy. Yeah that's just call him that out. Okay so let me ask you a couple of questions about this because please. Your family is a fairly contained group a small group. Let's talk for a second about meetings which might have larger groups like I was telling you that this morning I taught a class for two hundred people and follow your philosophy and everybody did have a chance to speak but it required very specific directions from me to them before they went into breakout rooms. So could you just talk about what that looks like for you when it's a pretty large group your love this so? I think the important point that you made which I don't think I touched on. Which is everyone has an opportunity to speak. And I think that's such an important thing to call out for an effective zoom. It doesn't mean some people might not be comfortable. Speaking doesn't mean they have to but they have the opportunity to speak. I think that's such a really really key part of an effective resume and so to your point into thinking about that. We also need to recognize that size matters when it comes to zoom so if it's five people like my family it's really easy to go around the room and never once you if it's two hundred. It's a different story. You're going to be there for a long long time. So Scott half a word is in one word. Olis' less so there are some essentially tactical things that I think are worth calling. Ah One of which I know you do. This really well is like you. Use the chat So in zoom as a chat feature in ultimate world. We call this a chat. Waterfall where you ask a question and get to responding in chat and the answers come through so quickly that it kind of looks like a waterfall so that is a way to get all of the voices in the room hood and then the other way. I think which is really powerful which I know you do as well. So it'd be keen for your thoughts is to use the breakout feature. Yep and certain in certain corners of the digital world. People joked that I'm like peak breakout shepherd because I just I'm obsessed with breakouts because they just allow for immediate connection multiple conversations to kind of happen at once in a small confined setting so you can literally take a group of two hundred and say okay break out into groups of four click a button and they go into groups of four. And you what I would suggest and I know you did this. Probably this morning so afraid of hoppy and you ask them a question and get them to take a moment to talk about that question and break is that kind of how you approached it. Yes so making sure that people are very clear on what the question is and for me. I find it helpful to say how long the overall time is and then what that breaks down into. I know it's obvious it. If it's groups of four and you have four minutes you each get one minute but saying it out loud just doubling down on it does help and I even go one step further. Which is while they're in breakouts. I send a broadcast every minute letting them know that it's time to move on that way. They don't feel bad about interrupting each other. Because I'm the one interrupting them Nas. I like that I mean. I think the breakout question. If I go back a step is worth calling out and especially in large groups. So you and I. For example facilitated. As part of Seth. Godin real skill conference facilitated a room with almost two hundred people. Just last week was a bunch of fun and the structure of of that two hours. I think is such a great structure that I've used time and time again so it's similar to very much following the philosophy of questions and hold space but the structure is knowing that people don't WanNa sit there and listen to one person talk for forty five minutes like this is not a lecture. We WanNA connect. We want it to be interactive. We want people to come off. Want people to use chat. We want people to talk so the overall structure was really he a riff about a particular topic or idea and that was usually about five minutes. And then he's a question to build off that riff and then you leave will for us. We create a breakout. Sometimes we chat but you leave space for them to respond to that Then they might come back we. Mike Okay Cool. Let's close that rip off. He's another if and you might ask a question about that. Riff then you give people Tom Respond. And then you come back and that structure you could just repeat that two or three or four times. Depending on the time is actually a really effective structure for a great Zoom Workshop Conference meeting. I think agreed. I mean this is how this my classes that I'm currently teaching and this is basically the structure you and I use for our learning labs. It's very very effective very effective. Okay I want to bring another idea into this conversation which is culture so within organizations companies groups. There is a shared culture. And I've spent a lot of time in my role as someone who goes into these companies talking about company culture and how to create a healthier company culture and remove toxicity from company culture Well those behaviors those ideas translate into zoom culture as well and one of the things I know. I've been mindful of as we've taken. The studio online is creating a zoom culture. That feels like it's in alignment with our values as a studio and that has a sense of boundaries around it like what is okay. And what's not okay? Clear as kind right unclear is unkind so I would love to hear your take on this and I'll just share one of the things that we've done is I have disabled the private messaging feature between participants so participants can might message the host or the CO hosts and Co host and hosts can message anyone but the participants cannot message each other. And I made this decision because I had been on. Zoom calls in other people's companies where that chat feature had not been disabled and there was this crazy side conversation culture going on that was distracting and frankly disrespectful to the person who was speaking so we have disabled that. I just love to hear your thoughts on it. I think it's such a such a brilliant example of how you might create rules within zoom to facilitate and create and cultivate the culture that you seek to create columbine so I mean examples that I can think of in the in the communities that I'm a part of a video on so in certain organizations contexts. You might be in his Co. unlike half of the participants on video one and I think that's something in having everyone have their video on and I know I've mentioned this to you before. But if everyone has their video on and if everyone is gallery view which is like the Brady Bunch view this interesting dynamic where everyone's taking up the same amount of space and there's no one physically domineering in terms of like the hot or they're just size as a human being compared to someone who might be short and that as well as like status roles in terms of organizational hierarchy and titles just creates a really interesting level where we're all he taking up cyberspace and we always have a like a little face on the screen. Which I think is just. I haven't quite figured out how and why but I think it does something to the meeting. Room so that's an example so. I noticed at the toward the end of our first month of our online classes. That in my impulse train class which meets twice a week when the class would start as the weeks went on more and more people started the class with their camera off and so in the final week. We started this thing. And I'm calling the Sowell Bone on moment where this is a a word. I learned from Seth Godin. Which is this Zulu greeting? I'm here in the box of goodies. I'll post the video that seth shared but essentially when you say so bona it means I see you and then the response is I am here and so now at the top of class I send people out for several bone a moment which they have to turn their camera on for and then when they come back to me cameras are on. It's Nice it's a nice little quick fix the other cultural thing that we noticed on in the studio as we moved online was paying attention to chat usage because one of the ways in a large group people feel seen. Is they enter something in the chat so did not want to disable the public facing chat. But I started to get some feedback from some participants that the CIA is just too frequent and so what we do now is let people know that we're trying to create a culture. We can all be proud of in the way we're showing up on zoom and so what that means for us is that we only under something into the chat if we feel that is for everybody's benefit or in a moment when the person who's facilitating the class says now everybody go ahead and enter that into the chat so there are the boundaries and expectations. The clarity around that really. I think is helpful in creating something that does not erupt into Kale. Yeah I think the interesting thing that I'm connecting in here. You say that is just the and the the meeting of where people are at knowing that everyone is at a slightly different place with zoom and the need and desire and want to use chat. So I think about this a lot in I mention daily that I think have really effective zoom co one where everyone has an opportunity to speak and that can be hotter than it sounds because we all know those over enthusiastic bless them folks who love to jump off mute for the like the very first time they always want to be the first person off and maybe they hop off mute more than once to answer the same question to three or four times and so there are two concepts. I think about a lot of tactics but just wanted to share them. Because I think they're really effective. One is to literally ask or to say for those. That haven't had a chance to come off mute yet and then ask the question again and so just a call out that. I'm seeking to get input from those who haven't contributed I think one way and then the one which is a little bit more philosophical. I guess but it's this idea that my friend Dean by Duke again who had mentioned recently introduced to and it's this concept of move up move up and I'll dig up the way this originally came from and put it in the box of goodies as well so we share this quite often in a coal wendy facilitating. Which is we want to introduce you to the concept of. Move UP. Move on now. What that means is if you I usually someone who speaks first and speaks often. We want you to move up into a position of listening and if you are someone who usually likes to sit back and just kind of listen and not necessarily have input. We would love you to move up into a position of sharing and so both of those are stretches. Both of those are moving up into something that we might not be comfortable doing based on our default and so like let's step into that together. I love that I'm GonNa try that. Thank you for that tip. Course thank you dean. I'll tell you one of the things that I like to do is ask people to use the digital hand-raising feature because I know that very often the first person to speak is going to be someone who identifies as male and so what this does for me as a facilitator is. It allows me to make sure that we have as many diverse voices represented as possible in the question. Askar's otherwise it can be very homogenized group Such gluco out. So I think as we come to wrap this up and if I go back to the philosophy of asking questions and holding space I feel compelled to share a couple of things around that as the facilitator so a couple of pastas and noodles. That I always try and keep in mind. One is not about me. It's not about you the facilitator. It is about everyone else on the coal. And it's not about you the facilitator and so the interesting posture shift to get used to. I think is that ninety percent of the talking will come from the people in the room. Probably or eighty percent and ten to twenty percent will be from you the facilitator if you're doing a certain type of zoom co in an effective way. I believe so. I think of that percentage of eighty twenty and just to share with calling out like I have facilitated one hour conversations where I asked three questions like all I did was ask three questions and I've had a story in my head of like. Wow you really not doing anything here. All you're doing is asking a couple of questions like urine pasta attributing and had messages and feedback off the back of those workshops. Being like that was amazing. Thank you so much creating that space and so just to say that out loud. A reminder that you'll role as the facilitator is to create space your role as a leader is to create the conditions others to choose new actions for others to contribute and that is the long the short of it.

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#140 Is Panpsychism The Answer To The Mystery Of Consciousness? (with Dr. Philip Goff)

Under the Skin with Russell Brand

16:53 min | 5 months ago

#140 Is Panpsychism The Answer To The Mystery Of Consciousness? (with Dr. Philip Goff)

"Hello Rustling. I'm so excited to share my conversation with Philip Gov Dr Phillip Gossip Philosophi- Talks. About Pan Psyches in the very the consciousness may be an inherent component or property of the Universe Jen. What did you like? New Hidden Oh the tank. Cars attention more produce, and you mentioned near the Best Tyson when I mentioned the grass Tyson and what to last science yet, Israel! As to what stakes of science that there are stakes I stay eakin bias biopsies. sometimes not declared. Yes avalon, Bat. Is a very good conversation. He talks about like you know simplicity people prefer simple theorems. I suppose. Perhaps the argument is the there's an algebraic simplicity that moves closer true anyway if you're interested in consciousness. If you're interested in changing the world, he will love this podcast with Dr. Phillip Gov, but you can't subscribed to luminary for as little as two dollars. Nine nine penny pieces a month with their annual plan plus seven day free trial gets died visit luminary dot com to start your free trial novel, no market subject to local. Local currency in terms apply so during a cost. We've told the other day cushy. Do here's some view Goodwin in good two hours Chan White? Dove Goes I've been waiting for this moment all my life, but that is true in of all moments santee himself. It's calming just to hear Echo has to say, and what he says is very true. Amazing Guess Russell I agree with that just listening tim like he's broadcasting thing that he's talking about so of peace and bringing you into the President I. Tell You this I love Eckhart all. I love him. Of, said it. Jessica says I've been waiting for this for years. The to spiritual leaders YEP to spiritually. Yes, Chin, don't shake your head to one being eco. 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It must be if you to be a person studies, consciousness and you are a conscious person. He's very interesting must bear could you must be continually up against your you you you all your own experience view I was thinking when you said that thing about mystical experiences that they innocence there is nothing but mystical experiences on the basis of luck, said the inability to to ever truly breach subjectivity. The privacy of. And also returning to this idea of power I sometimes think he's no coincidence. Aranda more arbitrary that these parameters are appearing. As to what areas can be explored. The point about William James always okay. trust century experience, but he's not okay to trust mystical experience, we and a kind of a determination to keep consciousness in the field. Say of neurology I think that. I suspect and sent and feel that the reason for that is that if we maintain materialism, if we believe only in empiricism, I suppose believed in empiricism is somewhat contradictory idea, but if that is how we formulate our values, then I feel that we see where that leads us leads us to individualism elites as the capitalism. Leads us to quite literally to materialism and year on close examination, we recognize the faith is a component. There are unaddressed assumptions and. To reform, our society to reimagined as society the for me, if a component of that is the idea that. Consciousness is. An ever-present and abiding phenomena. I look I. Don't want to go into dream. Catcher and crystal land is by do feel that it's a very unifying idea, something rather beautiful and unifying and a way of explaining the mystery, and for me all the mystery is, and all that mysticism is. We are briefly interfacing information which we can't explain like again. Did you see that new digresses. Tyson on like the cosmos I digress Tyson, lochner respect, immigration. I watched this thing we talked about that dude, call Bruno something or another. Who I sort of came up with some stuff I think prior to got about you know like the way that the travels and the sun, and and the first person is I understand at least two sites. There are probably multiple solar systems and galaxies limit the stars, etc, keep was burned as a heretic or wherever in the documentary. New Grass Tyson's explains like Oh and he just he didn't have any scientific evidence he didn't. It's facing the telescope one invented for a few more years year. He just guessed it, or you just dreamed or made it up, and also on a second this man accessed this realm of cosmic truth, and we've dismissed the idea that. There are others who are these re. She's these Sufis, mystics and saints, the seemed to be able to access information that chimes with emerging fear on the nature of reality. I'm not saying it's right to institutionalize them or to start assuming that this group of people a better than this group of people in that particular version of truth is better, but it does at least seem to suggest that there are ways of acquiring. The annoy. Via, the senses and enhanced sensory instruments. Yeah, I mean another another. Aspect of of Empirical Normal Empirical Science that I mentioned that is is simplicity is a constraint, simplicity and elegance, so actually for any empirical data. There's always in principle, an infinite amount of series hypotheses compatible with how do we choose between them? On on the basis of simplicity why the hell is simpler theories more likely to be true? That's that's not. That's the kind of. A! Starting, point of you know usually it's kind of obvious what what the what the simplest areas but I mean. Sometimes mere simplicity has been a crucial decision points so with special relativity. Einstein's special relativity was empirically equivalent to the Laurentian theory that preceded it. It's just that. Einstein gave a much simpler and more elegant. Interpretation of data. Unsettled these ad hoc. Constraints so. That is another aspect we're not just people. Have this sometimes that this over-simplistic. Conception of science like it's just reading the data at. During the results, sometimes it involves leaps of the imagination, radical reconceptualise ations of our understanding of the universe, and about to your point about power and. Societal implications and. The strain of feminist thought Naomi Klein's talked about this that this moment in the scientific revolution where we separate out. Quantitative Physical World and quality consciousnesses leads to the idea that the natural world is a mechanism. least idea that we can do what the hell we want with it. Moving on from maybe idea of mother Earth does something that needs respect and even fair. So I think I think I talk about this in the final chapter, my book that the first four chapters of the sort of philosophical scientific as the final chapter is just discussing the implications for human existence. And I think you could potentially lead to a better relationship with the environment if if you think a tree is just a mechanism. then. Basically you think it's value is. To do with indirect and what it can do for us, either by looking prettier, sustaining our existence. But if you think a tree is. A conscious organism, albeit of a of a very alien kind than it. It's it's a locus of more old value in its own right. Chopping down a tree is an active. You know moral significant know these terrible forest fires. We've seen in. Brazil, you know we're all horrified by the money. If you see that as the burning of conscious organisms, so moral dimensions I kind of speculate about. Child raised in a punch like worldview. Seeing a forest is a building blooming community I think can give you a very different connection to nature I've been trying to persuade my three year old saying. Do you think trees have feelings? And she say now they're just outside. They don't think about infant so. Yeah I've got free road the two year old and they're conservative selfish. Bill Boston's. hardwired into total of nobody ego, I'll kill you, yeah! That thing that you just said about. The of preference for simplicity in the establishment of hypotheses, feary, so that's an interesting and fundamental bias. That's kind of about aesthetics more than anything else and the. Challenged the I feel that? Conventional Science faces. On, the. Assumption of objectivity is the way that is funded the kind of questions that are asked the kind of questions that are asked and to your. Point about if if kids grew up thinking that they are inherently connected to trees, the themselves a contras organisms I priori, then it's not so easy to breed generation of the generation at which you point out is over almost the he an anomalous historical blip to raise people just to consume stuff and not think about anything else. You're an individual trees. Just mechanism. Shut that down. Use It. If it's not useful to you, it's not valuable. That's for me, not an accident or worldview, but a deliberate one. The feeds into a particular and fundamental philosophy that is our abiding won the for utility economics. You can't be used. It's not a value. and. Touching on. Connected to this. Fair of people worry if we're going to take these approach. WE'RE GONNA LOSE ALL CONSTRAINT GONNA lose way of you're going to get to the Wu and the mystery and butts. You know as I. Say I, think we need. I. We've got academic institutions who've peer review system to weed out into bring Rick. And it's more important than ever I think to avoid conflicts of interest. I was just speaking at a philosophy festival, and also speaking there was mark middle would from the Institute of Economic I, who is an organization who don't declare their funders, and so you know, don't give us the right to listen to what they're saying and in the knowledge of WHO's paying the Piper. And they're on the BBC sale. The time is sort of impulsivity. He says I think you should not have the right to call yourself a think tank unless you are completely transparent as your donors, you should have the right to appear on the BBC as you know. It's I think it's I. Think the answer to this worry about about. Losing, any kind of constraint is you know institutions where we get out conflicts of interest. We have transparency. And you know I think that's an important part of it. Are Agree I. Think is a kind of conservatism as opposed to some sort of a preservation of some pure ideal, the the when you have funded organizations present information as unbiased truth. That's. Problematic again. It's like I eat ideological is. Deeply ideological. If you're enjoying this conversation, join me lunar for the rest of our discussion for all the latest episode of under Skincare Aluminum Dot Com site free Chaussee you day, oh.

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105. Time Capsules

The Long and The Short Of It

19:35 min | 2 months ago

105. Time Capsules

"Hello listeners before we get to this week's episode Pete Neier here to remind you that the clock is ticking applications for the next round of the big ideas lab are closing on October first or more when the lab is full, whichever happens sooner. So if you are ready to dive into our intensive six week workshop for people with change making ideas who are ready to learn the skills, tools and techniques for creating and delivering high impact content well, people tell you how to do that. Of course I will head on over to our website friends the long and short podcast dot com slash big ideas lab. We already have a brilliant of change makers forming and we hope that you might choose to join us as well. So head over to the website long shot podcast dot com slash big ideas lab where we have a video that we have a bonus episode reported that packs a little bit more. On is thing is by talking about. And with that, we hope you enjoyed this week's episode. Hey Jen. K Pete. I was doing a little scroll through my photo album on my phone just yesterday. And I started to get a little bit nostalgic because this time one year ago I was on a plane. Would you believe it? To New York City would you believe it to hang out with you in person? Would you believe it? the only reason I believe it is because I was there I know it happened it was not a figment of my imagination, but my goodness pete something has happened since then. Let's talk about it. This is the long and the short of it. So. It's funny. Your comment was exactly what? Went. Through my brain which was like, oh. Wow that was a year ago. Wow, a lot has happened in a year. Yes it's so funny that you're bringing this up because we're starting this next session of the big ideas lab in October. So I've been listening to the audio from last year one year ago session and I was listening to the first day when everyone is introducing themselves and I was so struck by how different they sounded that I actually double checked and I was like wait maybe this wasn't one year ago. Maybe this was two years ago. But no, it was only one year. It's absolutely crazy I've been thinking a lot about. How much can happen in such a short amount of time and you don't even realize it's happening while it's happening. It's like when you get to a point to look at it from a different perspective that you realize Oh my goodness so much change. Yeah. Yeah it's like we've talked about change happening drip-by-drip. We've talked about doing one percent at a time and eventually over time things get in equities better or things. Progress I guess is a better way of framing it and you can't see it in the moment like. In any given day, I can't really tell if things are changing. If you know progress is being made in my work or in someone else's work or in the world but then you have a moment where you look back and you're like, wow, a lot has changed. So I guess maybe the the question on the issue I'm packing a little bit is. What do we do with that? How do we create pauses to think about the change that's being made and recognize it pat ourselves on the back and keep moving forward. Well. Here's the thing that's been in my noodle. Is. Time capsules like. Having these recordings, this is a time capsule, and so it's so obvious. Now listening to it to hear how different people are actually I spoke to one of those people today and I was saying to her own my goodness a year ago when you introduce yourself to everyone, you were speaking easily half an octave higher than your natural speaking voice you over were the nerves in her voice. And then she was like really in today's voice. You just proved my point. It's interesting to have these time capsules. So like with that experience in mind since both of us went through that together you and I. We have these recordings and then what's really crazy to me is we have this exit survey at the end of the lab. We had people talk about how far they had come and the things they felt like they got or didn't get and they were very honest and very in the moment while we went back to those people a couple of. Weeks ago to ask them the impact of that experience now, and you can't even believe it's the same person who on the last day of the lab was like I feel like I learned a lot of things and it'll be interesting to see how this goes moving forward, and then now is like it was the most important experience of my entire life. Because they've had all of this time to sit with. Their learnings and so what it got me thinking about is, where am I putting my own personal time capsules like we have the mud cast but we know it's going to be released like what are the things that will be surprised to go back to in a while? I like that I, mean the puck does feels like a an obvious one I. Imagine I mean I haven't done it for a long long time but if we went back and listen to one the first ten episodes or something. Oh. We sound so young and innocent ridiculous. We must do ridiculous but the time capsule. So one that comes to mind for me, I can't actually remember if I've ever talked about this in the podcast or just with you offline. is at the end of when I was a student in the NBA, which is the online leave she workshop that Seth Godin design. So that was over three years ago. One of the things I did for my final project was I recorded a video. To myself from my future self. It was kind of Meta I was like, Hey, it's paid in two years time I've got a few messages for you. I know you just finish the ultimate I want you to remember Blah Blah Blah Blah. And I went back and watched it. I think it was like three months later and I went back and watched like six months later and it wasn't too wasn't too painful to watch and what was wild was after the six months I was like, Oh, the things that I'm talking about in two time. I'm like doing now in six months. That's pretty cool. And then a month or so ago a friend of mine she's also taken the NBA we'll talking about our experiences. And I was like, Oh, I did a video to my future self Blah Blah and she's like could I say it? I was like sure and so I went to find it to send it to her house like I watch it and I watched probably the first ten seconds I had to stop. It's like, Oh my oh, my God I sound. We. It an innocent in Yagi stupid and ignorant and like all of those things and so it was like I'd created a time capsule and now felt we to even listen to it. Oh, my gosh that's so funny. Maybe you'll put it in the box of goodies. Based on your face, I'm guessing the answer that. I mean the Internet didn't freeze that. Was Me really pausing to think about? I. Think we've talked about we did actually talk about it. We've talked about future self is an episode before. which is in a way, it's the kind of the universe of a time capsule. Or is it? I guess anything that you're capturing now that you're going to take a look at later is in some way a time capsule. So have you got a practice or process or have you got something access to the time capsule? Well, as I'm sitting here, thinking about this, I realized that I do capture a lot of my work now in recording form like I do a lot of my writing by speaking into my phone. Into autre excellent APP will drop it in the box of goodies. And so I have all these recordings that I've never gone back and listened to because I was dissatisfied with the quality of thinking I was doing. So just like never went back to them, but it would be interesting to go back and hear what was important to me at that time, and then see if there are any new connections that could maybe breath those ideas back to life. So that feels like something I'm interested in doing, and then the other thing is during this. Era I'm recognizing I have my five minutes journal. But I probably could be doing a better job. Of creating a record of what is happening right now, what things I'm looking at what things I'm learning big questions because not only will I want to look back at this time in the future and be like, Whoa, that was some crazy stuff but it might also be cool for future generations of my of my family to go. Oh, we heard of the great covid pandemic of twenty twenty. You know great great grandma was in and this is what she had to say. Okay. That sparks to really interesting thoughts. Well, I'll let you in the list determine if they're interesting, it's boxster thoughts. The first is you're right. I hadn't actually thought about that like I've been writing a page every morning and doing five minute journal for over five years like six years. And so it's wild to think that they are time capsules every now and then I might go back and read them but I didn't do it that often and so I guess the question I have which maybe we can explore in a second is like what a time capsules actually four like are they useful? What what could we use them for? What might we use them for but every now and then I go back and read and I have the same reaction to. What you described with folks in the big ideas lab the same reaction to what I described with the video which was like Oh. Wow I'm I, feel like a different person than the person that wrote this and yet? It was me like it's the same person just. Different context, different levels of development ideas and all of that. So That's interesting. And then I guess the other thing that the thought it sparked us to throw this out there is. Actually told you this. So your idea of capturing things for future generations has been something I've observed I don't know if this happens in the states but or other families even but in my family, it's like my dad, my mom, my aunties get to a certain age. And, they'd probably listening. So Hey, on ankles and dads and MOMS, and all of a sudden they really wanna find out more about the family tree in the family and they go to ancestry dot com and it's like a whole project and there's a spreadsheet and there's an a four three bit of paper. It's like family map and and I sort of it go. Wow that's kind of fascinating. Anyway, I was thinking about. Like a year or so ago. What is my equivalent of that? How did I capture interesting stories ideas from my parents and aunties and uncles and family members so that future generations might be able to access it in easy away because I've seen the pain of trying to find birth certificates and death certificates and all of that anyway I started a family podcast. which is private just for our family and I've interviewed each member of family wants so far. Right Yeah Yeah Yes. Yeah. It's We've done. So my immediate family. Of US including me. So I interviewed the four others my mom, my dad, my brother and my sister, and then my brother interviewed me and we call it season. One was like the early days of when you're a child and so. We. All answer the questions and then we all went back and listened, and then we had the zoom co where we will like what did you? Watch what was it like listening to one another share the same memories, but from different angles and all these things. Anyway I'm talking a lot but the point is. I realized what I did was I created a potential TOPKAPI. I didn't even think of it like that. Oh my goodness I WANNA borrow this from you. This is such a brilliant idea. And I am fascinated by the notion that you would like, pick an event that all the family members were at and then interview them about that event and get all the different stories because, of course, everybody's experiences totally different of what that event was and what it meant. Oh my Gosh I love that. Yes. So my first question not to go into it too much. The first question I I. Think I borrowed this slightly from Krista Tippett on being and her podcast she asked the same question at the start of every episode. So my first question to all of the family members and my brother asked me. What are your memories of dinner at like? What are your memories of the dinner table? And everyone was like, Oh, I remember these servants I remember like Isis seated in this chair I remember dad used to say this and it was like Slightly different iterations of the same thing and so yeah, it's been it's been fascinating. Whoa I love that this just made my mind bounce to the greatest gift I ever received from my mother. My mom as a gift to myself and my two sisters this was. I'm going to say it was like maybe six or seven years ago digitized every single thing she had in terms of photographs and videos everything. So we're talking home movies. Back to when my family got their first camera, we're talking photographs of generations that we never even knew digitize the whole thing, and then gave it to us for the holidays for Hanukkah, and it was the most meaningful gift. It was so generous I can't even imagine how much time. Went into that but talk about like a multigenerational time capsule but it's because of the way my computer syncs with my phone all of those images ended up on my phone. So sometimes kate and I will be scrolling through pictures of her as a baby or a toddler, and we'll come across these thousands of pictures of family members. I never knew is so amazing because it really does remind you that you are establishing something right now. That future generations of your lineage will be able to name as their history. But that also you are existing only because of the people in those photos and what they fought for what they cared about the fears that they overcame and the dreams that they had so that you could exist it's sort of beautiful and that way. It really is a reminds me of something you said to me many many times, which is everything has storytelling value. And often we go through a day and we think that. Today was the same as yesterday. I did a similar thing. I didn't collect any new stories or anything like that but to your point everything we're doing. In any given day. Is Nudging forward a story creating a new story pulling on an existing story and adding another chapter to it. So that we can tell it someone else can go back and look at it or we can at some point, sit down and look at the change that's been made through those stories. Yeah okay. This is now pulling my brain over this direction on Monday So I don't know when this episode is going to be released on on the Monday in question our country was mourning the loss of Ruth Bader. Ginsburg she had passed away over the weekend. And she was one of our Supreme Court justices the second woman ever to serve on the US Supreme Court and a person who devoted her entire existence to justice and equity and freedom and fighting for what's right. So there was a lot of sadness in the air when I got to digital work on Monday and I sort of scrapped what I had planned for class that day, and instead we did this deep dive into legacy and. Not, your own legacy although that's important too. But to get specific about the ways in which you intend to carry someone else's legacy forward. And so the exercise was really to identify someone whose legacy has had a positive impact on you whether you know them or not, and then to tell a story. that. It's theirs that capsule word again encapsulates what that person stands or stood for, and then see if you can make a commitment to carrying the learnings from that lesson forward. So the what this is, all making me think about is not only can we create these very specific digital recordings, photographs, voice memos, videos, etcetera that are time capsules, but the stories that we tell also served as time capsules and they help us to see where we been where we are and where we're headed. Well I gotta say the legacy that you have left on me I think is one that I will remember for generations to come and probably passed down to many other generations. Like mice. Thanks whether that be twelve months ago when Moore hanging out in person or The last twelve months where we've Spain doing digitally remotely. So, feel like the lesson here for us and for the listeners is to give yourself the gift of a time capsule moment whether it's like randomly scrolling to two years ago in the photo, APP on your phone or looking at an old journal or listening to you probably have. Box Zero voicemails, but I don't. Because we all know I'm a message order. So I have I've gotten really old voice mails that I could go and listen to just a time capsule to remind ourselves especially in this moment where day after day can start to feel a bit monotonous. Of. How far you have come and that you're still moving forward right now. The short of.

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Ready or Not, Outside the Box.

Coffee Podcast by Cat & Cloud

29:31 min | 8 months ago

Ready or Not, Outside the Box.

"Dan I'm seeing and believing right now that there's so much more possibility specifically with utilizing each person's individual talent that is the key to weathering the storm clouds. Podcast is sponsored by steep copies steep coffee new brewing method. That combined specialty craft copy into a single serving. You don't need a machine. Don't have to make a mess matter where you are. All you have to do is add hot water. Each steep pack is individually sealed nitrogen. Flesh stays fresh. And it's got this special immersion filter in the filter is ultrasonic sealed which means it sealed together with no glue. No staples so. There's no weird stuff floating around in your coffee. Steep is a Benefit Corp. They ethically sourced all their coffee. Their packaging is fully compostable. Believe business should be done without compromise. You can get your hands on steep copy at steep copy dot com that's S. T. E. He COPIED DOT COM. 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Some people are asking questions like we had a really fun. One podcast. It and there was a question about Moka pots. Maybe we could talk about it again. Just because it's kind of fun. I never I read. I read that one did you. Did you take it off the list? It's like tell me about Moka pots. I love mine are. It's how I take it off the list. Why would I ever do that? No tell me stories about Moka pots. That's like the money is Love Mail like I love that. That's like no I'm not saying not read it. I'm just saying since you guys already. Yeah I did. I did sorry. I'm a total asshole just assuming the local Patrick Dope though. No that's okay I am a backer. No No yes yes. I took this. Let me double down. What can I can. I jump in there to watch this. You Ready Carol. Okay even though you already gave the love male shout out. I'm going to tell a story about mobile. I love tiny little tiny things anything small. I'm I think it's so cute and cool and forever. I wanted to get a miniature Moka Pot. They have these little tiny Moka pots. That kind of like they'll fit in the palm of your hand there and they make basically espressos worth of coffee and my friend. Mikey who I met. Because he had a shop across the parking lot from this other business that I tried to start to wind down in flames and we became good friends and that was like a really cool thing that came out of a bad thing. He went on a trip he Swiss so he visits his family and he brought me back this little tiny miniature Moka Pot and I was like Oh my God like how do you know I love small things and then we went camping together because we had a group of due to go camping and I got to use the tiny little Moka pots and make two ounces of really strong amazing coffee and it made me think of a friend did. That's so cool cad. Now we're actually talking. Her story was about camping too. And just how good everything tastes when you're camping and how grateful you are to have it and you also. I just inhaled so so fast that I kinda swallowed and spit and it was a good visual anyway. Moka pots. Just GonNa keep coughing and you you. I everybody to know that it's not. It's not the virus you failed spin it could be the virus. It could be symptomatic. She's sorry you're up in deep it's GonNa be real man anyways but for some reason on acute level it was kind of reminding me of like potbelly pigs and there's like regular size potbelly pigs and there's like miniature cute ones so you have like a pot belly pig that yielded a lot of sweet sweet coffee okay The the big pot belly pig analogy is is a different one. But I'm I'm down for it. You know what I mean. I'm never it's an. It's like the next level. Yeah and cool. Let's get into some new ones. Yes getting to some new ones. So the I love male shout out today is from Alison Murphy in Crown Point New Mexico am I right with that. Acronym I'm down looks like New Mexico. I got family in New Mexico. So I'm down. They're not in crown point but me. That's totally sick. So she just had a nice short but sweet message that I think we can all relate to and she said thanks guys. Times are tough but coffee still flows and let me tell you it. Sure it sure does flow. Still good that we can help you with that. Check this plug you ready for the sickest fucking at of all time. Everybody listening Holy Shit got usually. I'm not usually a hard sell guy but I was inspired by DJ impulse who purchased from US some DECAF. Because he's like. I want to drink coffee all day and not have a panic attack. And I'm like yeah dude and I literally just made myself a poor over a DECAF Khalida wave and our DECAF is fucking banging. Did and if you WANNA drink coffee all night. Because that's what I WANNA do and I'm stuck in the house and can't go anywhere social like get some DECAF and you can get in a game like any time. I just got a notification that my cat and cloud order has been delivered and within that order. I got one bag of ground. Decaf and one bag of regular D- poll regular regular regular. Do also got some well. That's not gonNA happen right now. Either I am talking stuck at home. Actually one bag of Holy. Get Weird working in your room for his just become a whole different person but a the collective consciousness yeah And then I also got the Geisha. 'cause I'm I'm really excited to try that and quick so I was like I gotta get some real fast and then a few other ones I forget I think I got the Guatemala and Beta Carmona. Not Bella Sorry. L. A. Kerman other things. I definitely got some answer because I wanted to ask. You know it feels like home and oh I got a few bags of steeped. So I'm just I just I just Just a new little tiny guess. What tiny little cute Khalida Wave Moka Pot thinking that I was telling Kristen about and I got the small size on purpose. Because I'm just one person you know what I'm saying. Yeah because fuck making coffee for anybody else save myself. Oh my God that's right. Now that's how you should totally be thinking. I wrote a blog about helping out on Wednesday. Oh cool if anybody wants to check it I mean. I read a blog every Wednesday but the theme on this one or kind of the A. Because everyone's feeling this this panic right so just making a little note that if everybody only focuses on saving themselves that when the dust settles like you're going to be all alone and that would be a really crappy thing and we're all you know we gotta do what we can to help out each other. Hell Yeah you don't need a bunch of money to help out. You don't need to be rich. You don't need to be a baller. You don't need to have a ton of resources anyway. That's like free am I okay? There's a chance I don't know for sure but I might move in with my grandma. It's super safe. Because she has a lot of people come through. So that's one thing but even before that I'm I was thinking about doing deliveries for the elderly But even more than that even easier is literally face timing with my friends. That's and it's helping me to and like I was making dinner last night here. My sister up we just talked about stuff and it was really cool and yeah I just I need my friends and I don't I just yeah gotta you did. I tell you about my virtual co working space you know what the heck okay. So Seth Godin. I'm a big fan of his books and everything that he does. He created on his website. A little portal. That's got a virtual co working space just for a month to help people get through this so what it has is. It's got a bunch of different message boards where you can connect with people all over the globe and then this is what I really liked about it. They have two different Zoom Rooms. That are available. So there's a coffee chat room where you go in and chat with people and there's there's hundreds of people on this platform right but they break up into groups of ten or so the one I've been using is the virtual zoom co working room to. Are you sign into the room? And then you basically see on your screen the other nine people that are in your room and it's a no talking room. There is like a chat bar on the side. That seems like most people aren't using it a lot very minimal and what you have is a bunch of people quote unquote sitting together doing work. And I'm using it to try to keep my productivity a little bit higher on the projects that I'm working on because Bill. I hate me exactly. I hate being in one place for too long so I like to bounce around and at home it sucked so I'm prone to sitting down doing fifteen minutes of work and then going and getting a snack or going and getting distracted by this that or the other. But if I'm sitting down and everybody can see me sitting there I feel like I wanna stay planted for at least forty five minute chunks of time to not be the lame dude you have that look of concentration on your face like even if you're shopping right what's the point of what's the point of signing in. Blake what's the point of signing and if you're just GONNA dip like five minutes so I tried it out. I wasn't shopping. Caroline just kidding. I don't think real I don't think anyone I know. I like WanNa shop so bad actually. I'm going to buy something from humidity. The skate shop in New Orleans. And I'm trying to figure out a way to drop off a care package at bills wheels. Oh our local skates love. Our coffee drop it on. I know they're open odd hours though because there are open. Well I know so bill who owns a shop posted something and they're they're at certain times just to take deliveries but those times are kind of erratic so. I need to connect with one of the people that work there and figure out how to get something to give deliveries. What just to take like from there from people they buy. Okay that's cool. You know like like our our Milkman. Would drop off milk or whatever. Yeah so yeah that's a I'm trying. I'm trying to keep it going. Do we need to read more or less man? Feel totally just want episodes on. Okay I just I was just talking miles Murphy and then if you WANNA do. Christopher kind of tally Christopher Tally San Jose California. He says support the local businesses. It benefits all of us collectively. It totally does thank you so much for for bringing that to the table Man. I don't even know what to say more on that. Because it's something we've been preaching for the last couple couple episodes that it really means a lot to give what you can and then if you can't financially obviously even supporting like for us You're getting Kinda Swamp Carol because you've been doing so much work and I was like. Let me get in that instagram. For you and I did and just seeing like the energy that people were sending out like supporting local business. If it's like. Hey I love what you guys do on a regular basis. Even if you can't buy anything like I'm just here to tell you that you're fucking awesome. That's dope like that is totally supportive. Amen to that yeah like sending a DM just being late you hazard doing okay or like whatever or even just having a conversation again just interacting with one. Another is pretty big Really Building FEM- here. You know for sure Los I can. I can read another one. Yup and I'm GonNa read another one a few because I got a special supreme okay cool. There's actually some funny ones that I'm excited for you to read down the line. I'm scrolling down the line and I want to get it before before somebody else. Okay cool so you go? I'M GONNA go with Bradley Dixon from Santa Cruz. local local peeves So it says thank you guys for being awesome. I live down the street. And we'll be enjoying your coffee from the comfort of my home until this blows over happy face but not just a normal happy face. It's like the two is and then using the letter capital d. So it's like a day smile dude. Thank you so much Bradley. Like it's good to know that you're staying safe and I'm so grateful that you are drinking our coffee but any coffee at all. I'm glad that you're just taking care of yourself and it's fun to just yeah. Thank you for saying we're awesome because that feels good and I think you're asking the feel so good it's cool to see and there's a few of them in here more than you this. There's a lot of locals and it's Dope Super Dope. It that speaks to me. That people are really missing that connection of both like our workers in the cafe and seeing the other people around the community. It's just people are craving it and thank you for thank you for checking in with us on social and sending this stuff it's super dope I'M GONNA skip down the line all the way down. 'cause I just wanted to catch willing From JERICK MONTE FROM BOISE IDAHO. He says hi. I'm Jerry which I've never heard that name. I don't know where that comes from. But it's cool. J E R I C K Great Jerick underscore Monte on INSTA-. I'm a photographer and enjoy shooting cars. When I discovered Chris that's me had a passion for cars to and may coffee. I was pretty stoked I own a two thousand four. Four X T with an engine swap can't wait to try nightshift and read the tiny book. Dude I love the tiny book. Love love everything. Well why I lost my place. I love everything. Good people have created sending all the good vibes. I can't in these hard times stay. Dalkia. I'll catch flipside piece Jerick dude. I got something for you. A little nugget of connection interaction. So you have a forester within engine swap. I WANNA help you to my friend. Kevin on instagram. You maybe even follow him already. His instagram is turn style visuals. He is in the Forrester Soobee game and brings in some really interesting stuff from Japan. And I don't know just just go check it out. If you're into that forrester light so your friend turns dot turnstile visuals all all one word. Turnstile visuals spelled exactly. How it sounds added no tricks. It's okay I know we've already established I'm a bad person and you don't trust me Carol. So we're just GONNA just keep rolling. Let's keep rolling this cool. That was a good one. Do another one but or should we just save you already another one all right okay. This is San Francisco California. Our friend Michael Ball. He just stay safe con cloud team heart. And that's really sweet because Yes for the whole team. Please stay safe and everyone is. Most people are at home and I don't even know what to say. Just thanks for thinking of the greater team. I feel really happy right now that we're in such a relatively small town you know what? I'm thinking of people in San Francisco or New York and the population density. It probably feels just way more intense definitely. Yes thanks for writing in everybody. It's frigging super duper dope super duper Dope did duper Chris Carols. Just dropping bangers. Bro What are you know we just out here? I'm just trying to tell me about it. You know what? We have a meeting pretty soon with the team. Oh cheese that's a three dude. What happens to my day every day? Let me T- every can I okay? I'm GonNa take this on a on a ride. You can come with me if you want. So did it's gotta swap engine. It gets down Bro. It's all wheel drive. Turbo really kicks in the booth. Shits You hear that sound no. Every conversation that I've had in the past two weeks has been so intense like there haven't been any casual conversations and I had this really interesting moment when we were talking earlier. And you're like what have you been working on project wise and I was like cheese. I've just been talking to everyone and I want to give a A little my own my own version of love mail to to everybody who owns a small business or is in a leader ship position Because these are these are the Times that no one preps you for. There's no training for this. There's there's not really a handbook and the amount of things that have to be managed on the fly can be really really stressful. And I've been having a hard time shaking that feeling that I'm like I'm every day I wake up. I'm like I'm not doing enough. I need to do more. I'm not doing enough. I needed to do more and for everybody else. Who is in that position? Just know that the communication like the communication that you're having with your team the talks that you're having with each other if you have another owner group those are those are big things they really really matter and it's maybe a little bit of a different switch than the day to day that a lot of us are used to where we have you know some part of our day is that communication and then the other part is what more people would think as traditional work so that can be pretty mentally taxing so for everybody out there. I want to sprinkle sprinkle some you know some love in the air for them and be like well you know. If you're feeling tired I feel you and same same thing for the employees but I feel like I'm more equipped to to speak on it from the other end of the perspectives. No definitely I think. I think the same thing's happening for employees. I think we are all also having really intense conversations with each other not necessarily about decision making but about like Howard doing and Howard feeling in how I think things are going. And what would we do differently in all kinds of things? I mean. It's just there's an like what is it gonNa look like after all of this like the conversations are intense for us too but I think it's a little different and maybe like we have. I think my have a bit better in that our energies like getting mostly into like like creative brainstorms too. So it's like their space for that a little bit like I don't know but yeah I agree it'd be it'd be so interesting from from like a business owners. Perspective is to have on record recordings like if I could listen to all the conversations that you've had with all of the other employees that would that would be the most amazing thing ever cool. Obviously it's like you can't really pull that off because you know a lot of it's private and you're not really going to be in the moment like. Oh let's record this to save for later but I yeah it makes my brain go. Let me ask you a question when you're having these conversations. What has the frequency band? Do you feel like you've been connecting with people more since this happened on a deeper level in terms of like what is the meaning of work. Or what are we doing here? I don't think there's ever really been a question of like. What is the meaning of work because we all know new? I we were there. It's more it's more like is the meaning of work the same right now. Yeah and like yeah and just kind of you know I mean. There's a lot of like yeah. I think I'll just stop it. Yeah I mean no. That's you don't have to go into the personal stuff obviously like because I feel like I am connecting with people on a more personal level now than I than I had before. Sure because we didn't really make lake there wasn't it's been such a catalyst for so many things like yes like meaningful conversations like things that feel good things that don't feel good and and I think in the same way. It's weird. Maybe we should have been having those conversations more before all of this. But it's been this lake weird catalysts for not only having you know kind of intense conversations But also been a catalyst for coming up with creative ideas and like. I was talking to kate about this like bringing folding in other skills that we have to try and connect with people so like. I'm doing this weird little thing where I'm like playing the song at noon every day. On our live Janelle and like I would never fucking done that without this weird current embarrassing but like maybe cooling do before you know or it's like maybe we can bring in a teams like artistic skill somehow to bring people like education or joy at home like why couldn't we have done that before corona virus like maybe because we had other things like keeping us busy like just basic operation stuff that we like aren't doing right now. It's just not the same capacity at all but it's like yeah. I think this whole like new landscape has like created a catalyst for really connecting. Were deeply and like opening our minds to more creative things. Yeah that's super sick. I've been feeling a lot of the same kind of energy. I think it's really cool and I think you're dead on with it it's like why aren't we doing this stuff before? And like maybe because we were busy doing what we thought we had to do. And for an organization you know we pride ourselves on thinking about things in a different way or putting our own unique spin on things and a lot of ways we do but in some ways we kind of plug and play the same models that most other people use. And I'm seeing and believing right now that there's so much more possibility than like we could do so much more than what we've been doing for the past three years as a specifically with utilizing each person's individual talent. I agree which I and I think for for well up to everybody else. Whatever but like for me I think that is the key to my workplace happiness being able to bring my unique contribution to the table and feel good and safe doing it like that's cool and I love it. It's like you play music. That's fucking sick. That you WANNA play a song like you know it's super dope like hey. This is my middle of the day. I'm GonNa Chill have coffee and play music. This is just me but also for like directly. Wow So pash fitter I think any you is your favorite letter directly applies our mission like it's just like we we say all day. Like coffees the catalyst. Yeah it is but our mission is to lead people happy then we found them and there's so many ways to do that so like and I feel like I'm just like repeating myself from the last episode. Sorry guys but it's like yes. Like music is a way to lead. People have found them. Art Is Way to leave people happy. They found them education as a way to leave. People found them if we can give them tools that are gonna make things easier for them in their life like communication like brewing coffee like whatever it is like empowering people leave unhappy then we found them and so I personally think like to piggyback off. What you're saying about that's your happy place. I think not only may may be your happy place but I think it is using these like collective create like creative skills that we have. That is the key to weathering. The storm is my thought And we gotta gotTa gotTa think outside the box like we save you. Can you know what I'm saying? Say when I think outside at someone else's box all the boxes lock boxes any box whereas the box who'd I don't even know that's Dope Carol. We gotta go. I think we have to go because we have the other thing. Which are how are the are the day's going really quickly for you too quickly and yeah? I think it's okay to work late. Sometimes too so then like my afterwards time ends up being until like. Kinda late and then I wake up at like eight then I get ready and then I get. I really get into my work groove like around nine thirty ten so I'm also kind of like. Yeah so then. It's like already like noon really fast and then once you get past noon like their day is almost over. You know it's over. Yeah you might as well go to bed at like twelve thirty. It's like the same now so I mean I. I do feel that way too but yesterday was the most energizing day of work for me in a long time and I just like I got so frigging psyched. Like I'm just so psyched on like a project. I'm working with jared on and the little coffee break thing on instagram. Like feeling all the love that people were sharing then like seeing familiar names and new names and people like shouting out from different places like it. Got Me so hyped. And just yeah. I'm excited for these new things that we can do that so sick. I think we should PSOMAS beautiful thing I've ever heard by people. Okay bye everybody have a great fucking day. Help someone and make the world rainbows record level automatic level control. Okay now maybe we'll be fine. I hope yes so feels like what's happening. Automatically not leveling up Darrell duper.

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Steelers Touchdown Under, Part 1: The bigger they are, the harder they fall

Behind the Steel Curtain

29:50 min | Last month

Steelers Touchdown Under, Part 1: The bigger they are, the harder they fall

"Pittsburgh steelers fans welcome to another episode of steelers his touch down on. I'm not payroll and on joined by my co host is always mock. Davison mock has a gallon. Get I met you how we doing the steelers and now five and over five and zero. I didn't think the is we're going to be at this point at this time but. Here we all I believe seven weeks into the competition. Steel is applying good football. Overall, we haven't made it rely on the Ben just yet for that game winning touchdown yet still was applying playing some some brand of football that the whole world can enjoy. Yeah and steelers fan on the other side of the world. It's happy face right now like. We've wonder faded where one of three undefeated teams say hoax and this way it's not up against the Tennessee titans like how good is it? Oh, it's fantastic and if I. Give. A shoutout to out to Asha. Rookie on this team and AS Roma's whereby father. Nicer you know. You and I are both enjoying this show and talking steelers football but sought to give a quick shout to steelers nation Germany, who I reached out through on facebook and I talked to one of the blocks say who runs a page and then I I go into the discord and our solid token to another fellow, and then there's other fellow are different your name but I think you're listening to the show and I said to you said to me all have you heard about steelers the touchdown? And I said My. Main Matty As me a ninety we. Talking you went way so it's good to see. Getting around the globe it's great to see that out to voices. In. Germany and hopefully, Knicks looking for a partner or. A be. No way you'll literally saying that the to Ozzy Larrikin talk everything steelers on. Beta. Say this is what like lanes are idol not cost what not wear county it's awesome. We love joining all you listeners live every Saturday morning. Minute tell me where he hitting the Germans. steelers fans as well that that that's terrific. Earth is often what a Brazilian the live Chad and is like a couple. Mexican Mexicans. Well, say fairly regularly this I like and that's it steals nation is worldwide stills. Nation is J. graphically constricted. It's old is passionate fans out there and I think. It's a big one, his wealth to the. People contribute to Beta say the editors co editors the podcast. The guys that wrought for the pages. Well, Dole the longtime Betas Defense, like thank you for bringing audience national fans you into the family. I mean we wouldn't. We would never show with wasn't any setting community you know and it's and it's commute brought together by the black and golden. It's something that. Should be trivial trivialized in when we we've we thank the family before. We all really really appreciative and it's it's amazing how these bonded of. Rooting, for the steelers brings paper to to get. Yeah, it's up. Absolutely incredible. Really. You know we're on the slack chat gnawed got used to code and when I was talking to the fellows from steelers in Germany. I've spoken to I think the God his name is Nick who I spoke to Zoom Co.. Didn't one of the big photo events. It shows you how like for me how important the steelers aw as a fan. And on the other side as a community aspect, the main main is off. Matt. We haven't even met yet, but we're pretty good night's but it shows you you know like this is why we fall at team and it's even better when the steelers a five and I five and zero and a crush, the brands bike guys off in the third quarter crying it's just this is what we this is what we love to do. This is what we enjoy the season. Exactly. Exactly. So. Since mocks taste a little bit there what we'll be covering today show we will be covering the way steals absolutely took out the browns will we be previewing these weights matchup which you know by the time this GonNa air will be liberating the match tomorrow against the Tennessee Titans the title of today's show which. Is the bigger. They are the harder they fall. and. If, you think to everyone we've had this this year with the steelers h have played the biggest the opposition of the biggest stop Playa the further into the ground, the steelers have tackled them the further into the ground they've batted the ball down the furthering into the end zone we've run to tighten down. So that's the that's the show is same for this wake it's the biggest holiday full. Soma. Before we get into. The big personalities in the big lies in the browns. And how they fell loss wake. Devin Bush. Hey fell pretty hard. Yeah. He certainly did these these. second-year player and he's coming into his defense. He's. For raising he's going to be maced but. I still think in the feeling I get with the steelers tame and I would like your thoughts as well he will be missed but a one basic choice in where we're GONNA lose the next ten games. Iraq. I still think there's still a defense is is a is a crushing blow to any quarterback cam high within the middle when I saw when I saw came highway on the sideline. The NFL focus in norm and he just he looks like he wants a super bowl and more he he looks a connected and he just wants to get things moving and take j. on the edge and big bud. Dupree lot you say had two sacks. It's just Bush will be missed. Coverage. And things like that and that's fans or glide we will. Be Skeptical of what's going to happen. But we don I think I think Robert SPLAYING. We'll do a good enough job. Even, do a better job in certain areas like he had on on hookah. Tells Amazing. Did you see that he don't hooper? Yeah. That was that was a true thump that da that judgment of the ground and again Herp is a big man berry was the hotter he fell. Yet. When you and I did a talking united throughout chats messages was talking to a few of the other Bates USA. Contributors. In slack as well about what the options, what the options are there with Bush. I. Agree with. Pot I do agree that this isn't going to be Shazia. Lot? Collapse. and. Like when that will turn out to be career ending Injury Happen Shady Shazia was what defensive MVP level player that point like an particularly in two thousand seventeen had like Ronnie was four five or six or whatever where there was multiple tacos for a while also some. Would couple of interceptions. He was just a couple of fumble recoveries. The was told by, Hey, was feeling, which will give out a different different player when it comes to Devon Bush and Sicne appl-. A like even thome Austin one of his press conferences earlier in the week as well. You know. How How does this affect you your tame moving forward with the green dot. And Tomlin fly back. Pretty quickly. I think it might have been diddy him, Kabbalah that US question he was very quick to say you know what? Reality is, is that we only gave the green don't to Devon. We had it in the case if you like the defense. Of. Literally, quite tillman directly the season he'd only been doing it five games safe. You think that this is going to disrupt a defense. You have like, no, it's not. We've got we already for next mental. However. I'm not sure the experiment with Marcus Allen really means a lot equally by do. I'm interested around Ulysses Gilbert because. He saw him so taken that backpedal a little bit. Sorry. I'm you know in being sort of behind Marcus? Allen even so That does raise a question for me. I think. When we look at, there's not really anyone there's only one free agent that I really thought. We should go after Michael Michael Ken Hendrix At the time when grounded aliens were actually recording daily usually do coming where we're recording on out Thursday not. He's just signed in Las Twenty four hours as we go to air with Seattle after he's hearings Bain Parse. pint again, he was the only real free agent that I really liked the steelers to have a look at and that'd mean room a couple years ago when he left the Browns as well that he had a visit with steel. Sorry. He was one that was interesting because he was he's well attuned to that more positive coverage you know strong safety. Coverage on Stahl so yeah. That was what I was interested in. What I've got a question for you. Mad G. think that. The steelers with all the covert situation and things like that that they had on what message word up. Contingency. Plan that they had that kind of a plan for players who have gone down. you know because they can't bring implied from from never ate soggy wait bigs on the west coast. I have to do that I can do it. Yet, on the west coast all the way over. So maybe have the extended practice squad. So maybe they are looking for someone to come in just yet. Yeah. Well, that's a fair point. I will pull his right there. Listeners mock discharge never so That's how we remembered north hey southwestern, which direction they. And when you don't WanNa eight so he wakes cereal. IV He could be wait biscuit. So you know this big challenge causing ads and promotions. Go you know how many do you do and know some? Say I once tried eight do not do it. It'll send you to the bathroom but. GONNA contingency plans, it is an interesting one them because. There's a different successor if they get a free agent, which is one of the issues with bell the moment for the Chaves they've got a guy through findings affording day the Oscillation period under the NFL rose. If you tried between tames because they're technically in an NFL protocol. I think you're okay. So I guess that's one of the issues for me is that there wasn't a free agent that I liked the steelers to pick up the wasn't. Think those offer anything and as you know, a lot of people say they're only catch for the reason however. There are a few plays that could be available Vira trade that would be interesting steals Bashir and and. A saw I. So one of the Moats like Youtube show is this week as well when he was talking about this. Specifically in here, Hayward. What. Day On joins came up for in that from the Falcons that yes the Falcons losing but I mean he's not shape and equally. I can't imagine, steals wanting to give up the capital required getting I mean we'd probably have to move the change so much I defense to push back. I don't say that necessarily working equally malls Jacks Bain rumored he's fifty seven, million dollar contract for you deal I. Don't think we can necessarily afford even if we could get him I mean we see what we've seen what he's done to ban on. Jackson Jackson when he's been playing Jacksonville. Previously Great option, there is a lot of civility, but you know there are people like avery. Williams from the jets as room nowadays clean out. He's a bit more of a thumper but in terms of the grain dot, he might fees and stuff there. But again, he doesn't still defense. So does your view a set I just? I'm sure that they the steelers if this week it's not great will look at that tried market. As you say, I, don't think the Bush industry injury industry is going to bring steals down however. I do worry down the stretch and win when we come playoffs. The way, we can talk that Arab particularly if we don't really like I said in the slack channel if we're bringing edmonds more into the box into do more coverage, he's going to do more coverage at the at the tight end position than than fine. It makes sense if we're GONNA KP at safety, the mortar redoing, which again raises the question for me the jets if they're on this fire sale they have lost. Night may there's strong safeties really come out the last season Gertrude, the human bring edmonds into the box like give. So still because you're not playing Sean Davis, they're canceling some interesting role if Mike Helton's injured as rolled out of fictious secondary so the steelers can get creative and they said that it'd be multiple is filling this gap for. Bush. So, yeah. May It's like we don't just have to trade for an inside linebacker. We can trade for multiple number ones while I, trust I, trust the steelers organization and they certain things. And if you edgy before, we referenced of jets completely different to the jets Yeah Bush was a you know impactful and getting better each and every game. It was good to see him with the FELLAS and but. We're not. We're not like the jets we zero five. We're not selling plays and you know we're not going backwards. We're on the going forward So I you know I don't know too much about Roberts Benign. But I wish him a lock in if he can stop Henry, let's give it a crack in smashing. Well that's it and what better week to what better wake and what we will preview premium totten's in pot two What better way. To blood someone I mean Ritz stand up its next man up standard is the standard inner rubber hits the road. Now night you know you've been around the NFL system for a couple of years now so Good luck displaying if you can thump thumping he had but we will we will go into that in pot two of the sharp. Guard to the BROWNS. Mock I know you had a number of different strong feelings coming out of this game Tell us. Hurry. fell the hottest for the browns world and you can go and many different directions are. Bakersfield pretty hard and eagle roughed up didn't he? He got roughed up by Bud pray twice he got roughed up by. I think came within the Tae Jay was getting how he was in their. Baked. Didn't Yanni converted one on Thursday downs, which was complete opposite to what we're talking about las week without second day But I'd reluctant bring up we're talking it'd be a holiday full a lot to bring out the stool that Oto Boring Beckham. Junior of getting a new nickname hyperth- I can stick. Style, honest on a gray how he plays his game he thinks he's the the base as of will receive as he think he's one of the Best Davis. He's all the way up in heaven with a high pedestal is and we cut him down lucky just didn't make any impact on that game at all and we won thirty eight seven and would like to bring up there was one one play that I saw and I think the browns backed up into their own ends in about three or four yards had their run the third and fourteen and Baker and landry went out to do Sorry my apologies. Oborne Begin Jenner and land. You went out to do their blocking. And halfway between the guy up and this off on like there's no. Steel, the plane team football. The browns are trying to find their identity for lost twenty years and I changed every three or four years and maybe. Born Beckham Junior wants out. But stick with the team and play hard like he just doesn't do that. Execution Point you've rise Ma because I mean a stats start show is what you're saying Beckham. Jeanette to two receptions on the day of three targets only targeted that united still were well on him as well. So Find Baker doesn't WanNa keep throwing exceptions the twenty five yards like an average of twelve and a half of too so. That's nothing. That's nothing from someone at a he's pray prior performance and Bay salary level and say being a supposedly you know the number one out on the on the Cleveland browns in on so. It is interesting but it also rise the question for me about the rest of the NFL in the. How many of these? Touted Rookie quarterback. So we saying that a tool threes in are just having plays give out like we talked about the jet cylinder and you've got Sam Donald Black. He's in the same position as well. I know that for instance, everyone's going toward battling up tanking for. Trevor Lawrence in some people like will have the chance zero. Like say clemson another year like same. It was all the same stuff around Dwayne Haskins like. We have the same stuff about. Josh Rosen obviously with a couple teams. Now you know Great Column Rei. Communities. Fate in that starting to solidify little bit but. Starting to say this situation where there's quarterbacks just being let down by the Taymor you're not having good arline or or what have you? You know they change and then the careers. Out It's All challenged interesting. I don't even think it's the the quarterbacks and some of retrospective at all like it's when the organization itself like the. Pittsburgh. steelers are really owners and we're lucky to be lucky. We both shows are black and gold. The brand. One is Asian I think of since launch annoying on one of the there's one out there. That has like twenty one quarterbacks on these Jersey. Nagorski growing because they're not sticking sticking with the Playa the jets, the jets have a good quarterback in Sam Donald. And he's not getting any protection. So the away their best players, it's like what is happening to the organization's made from top down to help the pilots out? Well, that's it, and like you hit the nail on the head though. I mean, this is why Andrew Walker tied I mean how could? Thrown around like a rag doll and he's like six five or whatever it is in like. Well, over two hundred pounds like he's a big bloke like. Roughly does Ben like. Top quiet could even run winning inner joy. You know I drafted communities fate even veteran Ben Cancer. You sit during not what a team's doing and that is where we've got to be thankful as the steelers fan because our line and our dayline dayline destroys opposition otherwise. But number one we put an airline in place that can defend like can actually defy and I'm saying defend defend our quarterback an aggressive day one I mean look at Kevin taught me to make the combine look what he's doing waking ache out a new you're gonna go there you bring it up dots knew it I just know the smoky small you have right there. Kevin Johnson he's playing pride for steel. This is why we follow watch and I could I'm wearing a troy Palumbo now apply get smacked but I play Something different about sto isn't this five hundred around. Hundred hundred percent this pride in Jersey and like but even on that airline. You've got some like Maurice Pouncey Ultimate creative the point Ben's going to reattach his whole elbow to come back to win his. Foreign. He's a Cham how you would enjoy. Hayden. Let's Gaza's wall but like. You look at that like. All hundred villain waiver again like inner someone that was. Came out light because he served for the Armed Forces and you know thank you for his service in an older on service. Veterans that might be listening to the shot Waving across the ditch on the. Between New Zealand but why across the side of the world straightens in America boys being linked in you know in different conflicts. So we thank you say this but. Like You. Know he he came out as a tight end and what have you like we we have or linemen. We see our line potential and we invest in it to protect apply like if. We. Do that. We don't put them like even sold that loss Jiawei. Your doc in rural what absolutely? Positively like put under the microscope and the Orleans still came into bat full them I mean it. It shouldn't be lost on stills hands how lucky we are at how much priorities and bay we haven't had to waste. Necessarily too many first and second round draft picks on already one. It's going to do with that good catching open as I can as well. As I said, my third shot is one of the as we did together a steelers fan he. Never, remembered seeing a rookie lawmakers go into the system Schreider why it was always suit back and relax. Relax sit back for three or four years. You know yeah. It's quite it's quite exciting to say how? Had, the steal place and things and. I'm just very thankful. Thankful there another Browns, Fan 'cause. Yeah. They Egos are high came into the game. And I thought they were going to win. It was mentioned even game. Bikers bakers a bit of talk and Oto Landrieu cream hunt command said some words but that doesn't really matter and we smacked him thirty seven. That was one of funnest of funnest games of watch. In about three years. Four am and I saw. In. Line Abedin's caught fist pump when Meka factor took it away those ten zero like that's some. Hundred percent. Everyone's Inca you walked up to play like. Piedmont show and I agree with. Jeff. On. which in the post game mink picked that off the game change like that was like older and a winning team and a team that knew how to win, which we've seen in all the previous wakes I know that was discussed. Think the in a preview show ahead of the browns matchup was the difference with these teams that they know how to win. That's the sort of thing is that when you can get a go ahead school like that in the first quarter and beyond ten now and you know how to win then it's just about it's not going through the motions, but it's about being clinical and professional and just going through and doing what that getting the basics right during the bread-and-butter getting across the line but. Like the other thing that I thought was super interesting about these game talking about Bacon. But more talk now, the steelers did I think it was somewhere through the third quarter I saw dot com on the broad cost nine different players. Pressured Baker Ninety from players on the steelers like it's not just the defensive lines the back is obviously you've got like. Sages cornerbacks in the sort of how much pressure that line but nine different plays is only eleven on the field. To. Date. Covering Day? You know sitting here saying that non. Person same time. But like the fact you having that many different people doing it like you you watch highlights of loss wake toss in Walla like just because he only had a couple of tackles and he had one pasta affliction because he was coming up on that one you the the bend that he created to that one like I cannot wait to see this week. Definitely he put he put his hands up in and snap a bowl Australia. What was your more reloadable love to hear what you want your favorite play verse the Browns Play Yeah. This the one play that maybe defense or offence that really got you saw really Kind of the game you got mine but what's Yours Air Cop? They were a couple of. There were couple of runs from Koran that I really really liked way he sort of waived in and out the if there was a was either the comer whether they were. Started a third quarter. They can't a play that maybe they cannot. But if I'm having a how at one place particularly is the way clay date catch. Are realized because he kept going every little bit to sort of stumbling the enzyme asphalt missile Someone that's been riding high laws. Few weights that's to plan to actually terrifically doing a great job. He still putting in that extra effort, we've seen it on special teams. We've seen in the way that he does walk to me that just meant the world in that he would reach as far as employees will could've six foot four frame and just try and get the touchdown and I think that's the attitude we want to say if that's attitude looking out from. Potentially, steelers number one wide receiver I'm thrilled. Are you talking about the date bowl full the day Iran also route Disney on on that particular play you just like wow. But at the same time like an hour, you've asked me for one play the play the Washington took to that like talking to the end zone is. Took my one. Hosta. I'll take it. I'll take an go for it. Yeah. So it's a great place to watch that Ninety Watch the second time in the hall lots and I'm thinking muscles and commentator on. Washington, he faked out or big bend did the pump is causing. Aren't you on the madden pumping the faked out. quarterback in his safety in Washington was water open and he had must add about ten meters. So at yards or something on them, and that's the top send you, WanNa say I. Think was going up twenty four I can't remember too many points scorer, but it doesn't matter. Yeah when he ended up winning, that's the that's the way you want to see. He Fed quite pool when he can Incan Fade Washington had a big game who's next job Yet well, that's it and we continue to say pick your poison and this week. You know may well be. That breaks out the other one I. gave them any name loss wake bud debris depre- really important in this way can we'll be talking that scholley in pot two but Two jags for loss two quarterback of his like united to get those sacks but. Really really put the pressure on came moments. I mean terrific performance from him as well. Yeah, one, hundred percent did you say the white steelers defensive line come in with their during the albro fist bumps into into into Baker's ribs and they really that's the old school football one year take a you do within within fantasy and and not with balanced but you do it with a you know a good shot and you take Baker out of the gate and that's that's how you do it. But it really really so much pressure on Bangka to where he didn't want to the football anymore and then landry Sorry Mont Politics Oto. Boring Beckham. Jinya took his shoes off and we re sox. That's which I thought he had a foot injury luck charlie like when I saw it the first pot what does legitimacy literally dumped today and I'm like, maybe they're holding him he gets injured none of you know what? No, he's just got attitude. The. Final wrap up last week James. Lost three out of four games over one hundred yards. Yes. He only had one hundred one yards but he's I one hundred average five point one on the day. Didn't necessarily bring it for long but got the grind out yards and considering we had that bill cows stall offense to finish the game. Destroying performance. Yeah one, hundred percent he's. Full when even with he said, Bill Cal Football, we've the pont, we have a corner and then we have any snow I would I was GonNa look this this week but I just totally forgot what's going to look up how many first downs snow has got must be must be about ten I what would even have that but he's playing football in the end and I'm I'm glad that he touchdown does good for his for sake confidence I mean. He might want to be running the ball all the time but he's role right now is C. Bihan Khanna get the big yards and then. Snow is just a just a big unit and will fought full the extra three four yards in a I m. Yeah, exactly, and it's as you said, great, the snail given a few fumbles. He's had recently good for the confidence and really good as well. But we continue to blood human grow him front of if we don't have connection I say could get some get some experience. But that wraps us up for pot. One of these wake showed the big day off the holiday full brought back in just a moment with potter to really preview these Olsen game. The undefeated Pittsburgh steelers you'll undefeated Pittsburgh steelers up against the undefeated Tennessee Titans and we look forward to giving you an insight where we think this matchup will be one in lost.

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"In a cloud where there are already too many film podcasts, you have to ask yourself what's the harm one more? Ordinary men armed with unqualified opinions. Talk Filming to me Hello and welcome to to film sweet podcast film podcast about news time in general pub- coach each and every week we drop a podcast and itunes. Stitcher, and wherever good podcasts is are found John Uncle Elliott reminded yesterday. This is third year anniversary. How missing is at free as of babbling each other less important. It's Afraid Yeas two hundred plus pods in John. How you doing buddy site. Hi, it's just for years of PUNK CAUSTON. Distress. Is Amazing that it for years it's gone by very quickly but as. Much what much much in what we're trying to get lives with Stein legs of stuff and just seeing all fits. You know what I mean like you try to Cup says dead to me on net flicks. Ready TV series will. Ferrell Anada McKay producer, and Sega female leads star. This is pretty good. S Annoy. You. 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So the original screen plights, the first Etienne movie is going to be made into a comic book which comes out thinking September preorder data is lots of opens up doors to lots a little things in loose tidbits that come together. anyways you on before we crack home with the regular this week now on thirsty. Pink I you might be Friday lockdowns also learning things aside not saying that was film trending on twitter I shut original cooled host, and off always this this movie about and checking the Fayed timelines is basically the movie that's been made in lockdown which we're going to be reviewing and I have been very lucky to get a chance to speak with. One. The producers and writers of this movie as well as one of the costs stars and we sat down on Sunday morning and talks about film how it came about and it was like making a film in lockdown ends like the the rocket ship appears be on it in a moment of. Everyone discovering film and an amazing is so let's let's stick that right a fucking front. So his me catching up with Jed Shepherd and Emma Louise Whip enjoy absolutely delighted to be seen to jet shepherd the writer and producer of the lights movie on shadow host as well as the cost and elouise with how you doing. I'm good. Thank you how. It's amazing. We're not using zoom will using squad cost because. Oh never. Again after to watching your. It's it's using these insane because now it'd be on dossiers even I've never even heard a school coast. But. Maybe the next next high state will be. At squad. Could actually I'm taking. Nice. Nice. I've already got some fan fiction days via people stay close and. First of all, how did like mice people during lockdown? Probably get in shape they might learn a language is something fricken movie. How did this come about and we'll start with this well I'm the genesis of it is the director of savage. He had an idea for a prank play offerings and offerings sacred people that from the Stop Lock Down The festival amounts we which is watching films pretty much everyday. Recalled the Quarantine Meiji Clubs and ice MC paces every single day. And it was it was a labor intensive. Kind of changed. Quizzes we slight dimming so. She'll story Sunday we did the whole source on them we people. And then he calls me Elkins like Jennifer. This idea with a prank carefree one. We'll try to try this out they to try out a prank on me and I was like. Well, it's not gonNa work on everyone because he can put a the. So like I think he. Made Him Carl tweak a few times, and then he confident but it was pretty much flakes fumi lights. and. TESTA offerings from an old offense. The real friends he say in the film as well, and it was not the we put it online. And it it's about six or seven billion unions across all the platform. And then we saw get offers. From various different places on we settled with shutter because not only are they gripe pay on a free pay subscribers but the game it's a lot space make. US and they also have a platform on which is, which is amazing And yet, we cost all of our friends. So everybody can see onscreen of the French initial prank video. because. We speak to you every single day A. Like the prank was kind of our addition to see how we react. I mean everything we do on same as. The crew was well our friends as well. So we release we only use one of the ringlets was people. Stunt. GUYS AFX A. Lady. All. Of a genuine friends. Aspires even more now right in in covet that you got to trust people but also I feel comfortable and safe around each other. How much did it impacts their slight coroner together to do temperature checks and stuff when you didn't meet each other like well. Am Answer the. Question. Have it was like film it but. We everything was done remotely Remotely purchase from. A Douglas Clarkston is the main pitching. And we everything was reminding as imagine, and we've it every step of the way every Rosa's coal, every every stunk Kabul was recorded on at some point with Luna released. But how was it during the? Actually When we started I was like this is the best job ever got like. She. Just. bed onto the floor like a candle. was like. Yeah Yeah it was like this is the quickest new ever had. An but then like that, they were you know I. couldn't like scruff up my bed too much continuity it to keep having science. Says normally think about unlikable set you kinda come home and like jump into your bed, we'll ever be contact to be mindful in. Yeah it was it was so good. It was fun. It was I came a time in lockdown where we get a bit fed up. And it was like the best creative outlet and it just made the rest of lockdown. We're like you know the Strip lockdown just go so quick. That was it that we were doing stuff like the time. I mean you can tell how genuine Chemistry was on the screen. It's amazing. You guys were friends outside but anyway. But the. One two things I found interesting is that. Internet. Now, like you now have to use the Internet hiking and you're of instances where over songs off Wasswa's dropped again and Stuff. Well, buffoon going into a powerline character will in general instance was axel The quizzes. Let me take some credit because every other Wednesday on. Into that time in her house so we made when we were rising it. That was PA of the script I have Internet choppy. And every every belly say that we've taken of what happened in previous ankles within him and he's just picks Anna she was very well known so. If. It's just She just one show that she uses every time which has been. Faced with cucumber is. Using felt that plagues ease with everything and so we thought would be funny if we give. Shelter ultimate demise or. Someone, if anyone is listening to this, who is into technology will works detect place. There is money to be made in filters from this video of that Pablo. Got Spoiled. A territory but I'm ready striking things. You could see some ready people get involved with this. I'M A. G. What did he think of the the face small scrapping made one that was in the kitchen Horrifying. Beginning we had we had a couple of different. Van Like some fun ones like the bunny in the cat, and then we had like the scary ones in a not, which is like leg of its iron it is horrible. Because you feel this in your house bedrooms and house like flats, whoever of In my edge my. Selling point you could pay live and that's where we films. This is where on fellow. Not Lie to US. So, is real houses on a couple of times when it's a particular stunt. Or cease, and you'll see the invisible either a stunt house and a great stunt people but all this together. Who are friends? So sometimes secret to their house with accent something up or in Ms Case Will Ms House is doubled up with five different house. This is made up of five different houses that the main parts are has the kitchen is actually sandwiches her house the director. And then other times it's a stunt house. Where we lost the is actually studies house teddy from host his house. Yes very crazy because couldn't beat that set things up one of the Sonji and surprisingly the song. Some incredible like something. That's the one that surprises me but they just think it's going to be unfunded but. The stunts they like where the epic Stunt guys had. A A social distancing rules. And yet in that was Obvi- difficult. November making a when we released the making love, you'll save stuff. Amazing. I. Can't wait to watch that. Emmett has one stadium sick. Don't sport a territories course but it's one bit way like your from your perspective or the sudden you are raised very highly, and we'll just we'll just leave it at that in a corridor and literally taking out hell if they don this in a small corridor social distancing and every house check your. Okay. I'm okay. Not Stunt Tame but. Thank you. Class? He constantly the V. One. What's your? What's your favor singing the whole thing, and also he which your to your empathize with the most and you don't have to say images because she's Not Ask. There's loads, right. So two things that stick out about this one is. Saying where about I? Just under an hour run time like the whole the way you've done the pacing is incredible and I, think about. What ended now, who frees him cool lost an hour. So that makes sense incredible. But as one to take account, it's named lady who was doing the silence at the Star and start. Building up the tension and then she was offered livery Annie Montreal was bumping at that point and I was just like. That's really clever right in, and it's still like the pace is relentless but also sorry the Saint Saint Genuine Mormon alike Tara which I've not had for a minute because I'm not trying to vote these films. But like like my first time he was paranoid two or something like that. We're not all slams the first time. But as I think, MSU will say actually when the lights go out and the glass shatters. You. Did, you know that was coming Oh I had to smash the glass with a gun so cashable. You say otherwise but yet, caroline. Legal firearms and they didn't they sent me a BB gun. I had to like a like a diva mobile drives the recoil the the the booth. And The. Yeah and like sent me like some sugar gases shoot for an. So it was actually really hard because they were like sugar will yet like Sugar Goss's icon stock together didn't want to smash do like eleven times, and and so we had to film that bit and me come back in reaction affect. Not only the cost like together in an initial same many plaudits across the openings but they did a lot of the rhinestone soon, tricks that happen. Like Emma hats that day that goes smashed with a with a BB gun. And lies about the stuff I've done a costume really was real hands on that kind of situation because of the because of Lockdown. Alanis I'm not GonNa Spoil but the bit when some of the loss. Driven. I don't even know how they did that. How did they do that the smashed up overhead for Royal? Are is pain. It was it was. Seriously really amazing stuff and actually just last question on. Germany loved. An JEMMA, the guy with the glasses. Of conflict out forevermark. Shea that there's one little myron and up in Cape and honest on social media just was watching a film I e because I was scared and I just want to look alike for a second. A second sight radio at everyone keeps bringing out. One particular moment is when again avoiding sports JEMMA has to leave and she forgets she forgets for a second poses mosque. It's big socially-responsible across. Yeah. So there are some people of. The site of that's unrealistic. Jimbo win big. But issue it 'cause it's all real people I've just. Thirty minutes on. Our Fianna. And that's exactly that is exactly what Jimmy would do. So I've got two picks up with an and everything you say is pretty much exactly well Derail gals do because we know them when we based a character on themselves. In dead your erosion Jemma would like Oscar who what would you do in this situation Tailored around not to the point. If generally. Yeah but we talked with matching if he if he goes in this situation, what would you take based on what we know about? The. Yeah it's. Plus began when we did the thing which which is. Not and I'm really. kind of I think it's important that we use their real names in this as well. Likely to in the which was inevitable anticipate. people are going wild will also onto. Stereo names the whole thing's rail and they say. Go, go for each of the actors nine should stay without good guy. Yeah. The funny thing is all of these I've started this. Twenty minutes multiplex, which is probably going to be out around Halloween and it stalls order the girls from luckily. Got To say that Sorry in nothing multiplex wishes when she's not quite saying. Amazing Yeah. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Definitely. Not going to be on showers well. Not To my knowledge which wind to some festivals funds with the festival before lockdown trying to a she more before it gets released online. Controlling. Right. Now, proper weekend it's been released upset lords of rudy positive feedback so far, and it's great to hear as and yeah thank you so much for jumping on this as well. Thank you. You're going to revisit this little story that you've started. m while. I mean there's something on was quite over the things I mean rope with done before which during the deaths absence and host in my mind set and say, well, it's like one shaggy invest they'll get Shocking Investi we'll. Definitely. You might see this world. At. I mean uncle somewhere Hyphen Hyphen, China last day. Another film. I mean I'm sure it's quite kit for them. It's. Actually, never seen a horror film. It have this much hype before in mind sidelights. So it's crazy. We at the same time in the new. York Times ended up folks near US Saint. Louis going on, it's been. That size. and. By Different Simon Different outlets are picking up on it now not. Come in MD frank this started how new trend few of irony too wet from high was now. We're. Up. Maybe maybe I. One thing one thing that will happen is I think the cost and and like even maybe especially Emma just because some rings and she's the pilots that. I think we're going to get so much vail cool roles of the back of. Yeah maybe they'll try and kind of stereotype you guys who attacked cost you guys and you in Horace by I think he can do much. More, within horror. As well, even covers my favorite nursing accommodate because it's funny about a Communist. Discussing, ex the definitely deflate well on that note, guys. Thank you so much. Enjoy success of this. I am going to have to call in sick tomorrow because I'm not joining example for. Every best of luck. News yes. As mentioned, we will be reviewing host later on in the race but John Let's hope some mother flipping news to the Yes. Right bill and Ted faced the music. This gave us some great hope right like every spy became the trainers. APP, you've seen enough one recently I did I watched it. Came Up. And it just made me feel. So bloody happy is exactly why needed actually. Dowd who would afford nostalgia such drug ban the fact that they such that got the original coughs coming back when the original writers is working on it as well. That's the reason why there was a massive trade during the coffee with some troops. The dropped was because they've announced the worldwide release of this movie. Now, what makes this per conus might be setting precedents for? Other films during food as well is that this is going to be released worldwide on the same day is going to be released in cinemas and video on demand. So on the first of September, the limited cinemas will be sharing this movie as well as we'll have the ability to go by that Scooby Doo movie and doesn't cover films sun go down that route as well. Are you going to be cinema or you going to be? unlike guy via I D. I'm not ready for the. Say especially, odds. Not Mosque Unite Delilah But Yeah No, I'm I'm buying up for this movie is every bit as Daft as the originals a fake, maybe even a little bit more. And Lockhart said many times Janas like when he stretches his comedic drops because it's an undue sliced thing, he's gotten his armory. Yeah definitely definitely without not po recently and something like eighty percents paypal of. The national statistics about, but a lot of people eighty percent of them. This pope said essentially not going to go back to a cinema anytime. Certain is kind of a shining on our in the UK sentencing much Start Begin, Sydney Weld, started opening, putting up again I think the biggest problem Monroe GonNa have is what going to fill it with. Because the inventories Moon at the moment is still is released i. think that'd be pushed attendant, which will come to an emolument that is still on there, but I keep being back as well. So they just a plying Inventoried I. Can quite interesting in China over the weekend some cinemas reopened and they stayed put into stellar on for a couple of reasons one it was fiftieth birthday. Knowledge in the filmmaker and two was to put like an exclusive trailer, four tenants in that, and it might sound like four million dollars over that weekend which have suggested as money to be had. If you'll brave enough to relations products better. I'm still not there yet Arizona about tenant Crispin Artists Tenant will be releasing in the UK on the twenty six vogue aside by the weekend. Content. May is going to be the film of the EH obviously. I mean I think that the title was GonNa be hotly contested still still? Yeah. You still go. Yo Secret Tenor have some pretty good films. Releases thought the acquaintance a definitely films at the and yeah up the surprisingly as a couple of other things that have crept up Gosh recently with. The I'm not I think it's necessary complete blowout. Interested in Oscars there isn't it? On A. skit skipping shorter. Skip, it s too much. Too many too much money. Was We have the. We had left the start. The film now had baptist potatoes. What is the? emmys. Recently did you did you catch any of them? Am I haven't. The latest. Nominees just been announced some night for the Yes after's yeah. The as long as he gets all the awards that I'm happy as well as I will destroy songs that picks up something be happy as well on that I mean might what year for TV still like? Is Been so good. Some stuff that has been dropped in and yet we've still stuff mandatory that sorry that's quite amazing. Did you afford scream? I Love Green screen with my I have a horror movie. I watched one is about fifteen I bloody loved it and I was subsequently a little bit more disappointed with each concentrating I mean I. There was a TV show about it. That was a I might the full and there's going to be a screen five and Courtney Cox is going to be coming back to reprising heroux Attorney General I feel that it's like A. A cool like I remember the screen movies but like you said, it was a diminishing return wasn't yes. Well, I read a story the other day that she come remember. Advocating friends for ten years. So under she had to be reminded that she was in this horrifying. Enemies or I think why not you scream heads. It'll be nostalgic quite it. But the original scream today I, didn't I just thought it was harming the time by now you you watch about as a bit more to it is kind of stupid satirical. A lot of that went over my head identity if screen five, maybe especially, if they scream on C. unit hasn't gotten very well. We'll sell have not. You're right. ECOMOG met tried to matter before being there was a thing which is Kinda Co.. As as an hour maybe time, maybe they'll they'll run up out of night but. I'M A hi. Hopeful saying wholesome franchises come back for one last go. fetter software that was pretty cool. Small face is that Ron Reynolds is doing something quite amazing. He's shipping the Group Initiative or a group effort initiative. US should say, which is a a self-financed diversity and inclusion program, and the goat of this is to give people of color a chance to work and learn. Under. He's he's productions, banner unders, productions company that means he aims to bring intend to twenty Chinese who are black or indigenous our people of color who from mushrooms communities across I, each and various spectrums of life to come and what needs production house on various films. That's nice we need people who there motionless. Canadians, Clinton Labor can either let's paypal singing imagine on instagram thinking actually do action. At a actually like Mike should happen. He's just a a stand up tonight. She's so lovely days other. He's going to be a English coal house being accused of domestic violence in twenty years like Johnny Depp is currently, but you never know. For, legal reasons we must site we. Choose is fine. Out Yeah Yeah allegedly allegedly recites Ed sorry. Let's let's finish off I. Mean it's not not much news this week but let's talk trade. It was dropped Liam Nason. Somehow is still making action movies. He's made a action movie, the honest faith and the try to drop. The Synopsis Movies Essentially, a Mason plays a bank robber is been robbing banks all of his life, and in the twilights years has found love law he's decided to come clean. So he went to a local police station. The Benko you've been full. And said I'll hand off my money but turns out the cooks. And they took his money and framed him for murder. on the land trying to clear he's nine being Torres Bank robber whilst trying to protect the women he loves I mean. I love Shitty action. Flick as much as the next guy, but it's caught with kind of seen this movie before. Is Liam Nathan the right guy replying movies the diesel things anymore like there's one hilarious in Detroit away. It's just basically it can I described two old men fighting where tossing what each other and I fold out of a window. It's not as bad as the fight scene in God. What was The gangster movie on Netflix. Yarosh. The Can may be at particular flight so in but it does still look at it Oh bit pants but then again yeah. Well, you try yet. Now. I haven't I'm you pretty much described exactly I seem so. We gotta take what we can gather moment. True a lot of people like I still stand by this. Guy Said, streep things, innings of you're never condemned the so. buffoonery is Halcion the numbness to to what he was saying because it was constructed the way he did say stuff for the film he was promoting at that point was actually a really good film I really do recommend it. But other than that is not really much else that has happened. That that's it for. This week. I never done this over. Obviously. We're no physically together, but there's no reason why Can't communicate over the Internet, nothing's going to happen. Should is sitting in a circle. Spit it. We invite you to use us to us on any communication. Is anyone there. Please come for. We're talking about this over the start. The episode we're going to be reviewing it now shut original code host. This is a horror movie. It's very, very unique in it's it's been filmed entirely over his co... The film Zarni an hour long and raising for that gets that in a minute. But essentially zoomed photos the course of six people who high a medium to hold a silence over Uzumcu, and this is done during lockdown life imitating art and all that and essentially things wrong think paramore tippety. Mates May skype essentially at this film. Is so good at building up tension very very quickly. It gets a lot of dialogue don very snappy down a very civil conversation at some things that comes across. If you listened in view, you've already heard some of this side of try out ground so much but odie actors actually life is basically having a week zoom co during lockdown just keep themselves sane whether it's doing their various film quizzes or just catching up on life. rights is. This a prank, an from that prank, it bursts into a youtube video which got like seven million hits and then banged they've got they've got a movie all of a sudden they didn't went and finance since and got support for. So I absolutely was not expecting this films be as good as it is. Now disrespects the paper that made it. It's just that when you hear small independently the kind of Mida Zoom. So suffering is not that good. Seriously this is amazing in terms of like it just pull out the failings of tension fittings of dreads, and because you've got the limitation of the Ernie viewpoint you have is their face for a Webcam. Within never, you only have one perspective which means how very creative with how they used negative spice. Helda. Used little things in the background. I'm going keep coming back power no mark demonstrate because this is why I've had the Seinfield's of the just. The Following the person on the screen right now at she on following someone else's screen because in my peripheral I can see a pair of legs hanging. Is GonNa go and they just in such a way where it it really does just it's just moss for storytelling and it's done so well and you can tell now now I know that they're actually friends outside of what he can see the chemistry like that actually so that the white the daughter works we travel it it does flow sorry well, and like I'm a massive fan of a fifty six minute movie and that's not because that's I'd just say something about the punch of it. John Chance to say this yet body better horror movies is that what is this stuff safety? I while I mean I've light you are if you put the premise out without people are okay. That sounds interesting. But old of reviews in CEOS even from the trade I kind of deduced they've done pre effective job. We've got the tools that. And sometimes you tiny people when you remove. Limitations and the minister kind of just a small box to offer in can really come up. So amazing. So I'm Lou wet impressed, and ready. Glad that people. Make this. I mean it makes you feel like shit that with been doing during lockdown is recording podcasts and binge watching TV these people actually went in crate it up and It's yeah `and one of the things which I'm reading a lot reviews because a major outlets picnics out very very quickly and Escaped my backup that law Peterson yeah, it's good for look. Cool thing United just. Right. Great horror movie and. I, really hope this births a bunch of sequels I hope that everyone involves gets a truckload of money Amazing things as a result of this because it's deserved like this I really am champion this movie I really did enjoy it and I haven't been scared like that in a long time bit. Put this stuff Covering my eyes will put in my muffing and then some over this movie in particular I didn't want it to end when what happens next I'm not against any spoilers territory Guy Wealth these these six individuals have to arisen who is very much necessities is the mother of innovation and the necessity for having to do this in isolation having to do this on their own savage distance in Mississippi homes and stuff it's just done in such a like you say it's something you think. too, hot is fucking hard. We actually think about the detail were the heads do I am really up initiatives surprise package from a. m. I think that be cheap in comparison to what he's GonNa Bring in terms of subscriptions but. Probably know enough compared to how great this movie at she is compared to Next guy what some critics assigning lockout runs might is right now sitting at one hundred percent on the Mehta and the audience school is giving ICT percent very high praise. Indeed guy about what some some priorities roads about this guy at the New York. Times side host observes uncannily the supernatural and material worlds colliding scattered gesturing towards an uncertain future. That's just a snippet bit as a whole think pace about anger. How cold is this find someone who has said? Something, not nice if there is such thing. Oh my God like the older cray excitement are agreeing this. Now it's doing it's doing gangbusters right now and I'm I'm down four the reason why for five is because? More A and the thing is I. I. Get why album because Zoom COA freezing co is on you now along so you get the starship to Cohen Nicole ends when the time runs out and I just wanted more of it and so yeah, four five is definitely up there for one the films the. Complete. Surprise Package and if you love your horror like this is this is a you will be scared of going on Zoom Kohls again as a result of this film. Because it ruins zinc costs for you. I will not have been court nights out being. Say Host for out five. Another streaming exclusive where reviewing this week is beyond size adequate, high concept film music video. That's very long. Black is king. It's very much inspired by her time working with Disney during the Lion King Bosa in. African wise tiles and doing visual sanction are visual representation of that with her own backing music. This is using some of the greatest African Americans hadn't available in terms of produces in terms of stylists, interns of showcasing black excellence and. I'm going to leave that is as a premise Now Jeff doing exclusive content of streaming services. Last year, she done homecoming net flicks. The original of documentary slash live toll shy, which was done gangbusters form. She has also done visual albums before lemonade I. Think came out. That was like a a revelation like. approved the all for pushing the envelope in terms of different. Mediums to push across and Disney sat there gone cut fucking Ching, because we against get simony more subscriptions as a result of this because his King Bay right she's. Bay She's got how at Weld at following her every move. That's I can see why done this but. Only I didn't really enjoy that much. The music was great but I couldn't necessarily followed migrant being man. Outmanned cloud by blood on kind of. An hour and a bit of. Music in Danzig, the narrative every now, and again, you'll hear clips of James L. Journey Guy Simba. than. I was. A you not the audience flooding is this. Man. I'm not slacking off the fucking debate army would kill me but. I know like this is. Not For me in terms of I wasn't expecting it is expecting. Excessive I wasn't expecting that and if basically now in Hof music video and some the imagery in a strikingly beautiful as the dancing is absolutely incredible just for whatever reason it not gel with me. Now at the moment is doing absolutely gangbusters reviews Scott one hundred percent on like audiences critics school umbrella two meters is everyone ready waxing lyrical about this and I can see why into The on display in terms of the costume terms of the imagery terms of the and the music isn't that awesome bangers by on the actual album albums been released black gang on can get spy fought There are some but something didn't Joe may not I don't know what it was and like I on the inside on no beyond Sei fan but won't be a my top ten supply lists music and. I felt like had more lines in this. She didn't along king she's kind of weird but. it's a it's kind of a short review on this one. You. Commend beyond said, she is she like you said, she's pushing the bone on late at she's not just settling light lemonade came out. It was like Oh shit this is. Side who I- voiceover notes a little bit as destiny's child. she got around me friends lemonade was. Incredible. What I? Kind of. Incredibly honest and really made me see you're in a slightly different light and I kind of appreciate her taking these risks leaps and united she if she risks. An average review from you. Flynn A. I. I the arm off on reviewing it from a perspective of when joins US get out. There's enjoins be had if you're a fan of beyond say of five five. Yeah. You perfect masterpiece infant calcium burning fat, and and good for you, and it's just probably not the the audience for. The. Third a segment offset we were gonNA review size hate and yet Disney again, just being very, very small with the acquisitions i all the things that are producing and Fidel get their hands on. This is a monster strike I think Nepal and is more variety. We'll another reason why he's going to be really hard to to not pay that five nine, nine a month to Cape that Disney Account Free Five because it's definitely got some positives to it just didn't necessarily Joe with me but I can say wildlife people loving it seconds to listen to this podcast. If you've enjoyed what you've been listening to click that light follow subscribe wherever abundant is you get more took film to me John McCoy, Pleasure Sean sweetness one. How can people find you? At discontinue trying to quit. But. He went very ABC News presented at O. Rien. Donald of. Sorry. We'll back next week we'll do more films across the world of the streaming services and maybe just maybe we're talking about. Very soon. So next time wash your hands stay tuned is a problem where Moss bye-bye.

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#113 - Timothy Stovall

"Hey remember to subscribe and follow my podcast released new episodes. You get a notification and follow me on Instagram. Yes King. Oliver I am very active on their have a great day and enjoy the episode. So. When we lost it a 'cause, we spoke about war electricity raised us to the cells of our body and which ends up crazy like cancer and so when we think that cancer is just of life and it's so at its hurry and if your parents have it, then you're likely get together. That's what nonsense is based some thoughts and environment if you're round electricity pole or a like a motorway where there's fumes everywhere. That we're GONNA, turn your body into this because it's not all the Shit's not supposed to be in it and you're saying how you live in Texas. Out in the open remember with you said, you live by electricity poles or you don't these you did. Yeah, we're going down the rabbit hole. Aren't we? Like man I could talk about this topic like all day long. Yes. There is a lot of energy going on around me I know there's a five tower right over here and another one right over here that just went in. I. Have My mall less than a mile away from my house and they have these giant antennas on top of the mall that are like directed right over my house. And my grandfather, and I have been complaining about our ears ringing for the last three, three years or so. And I've always said it was from that antenna. Hundred percent. And as soon as I got back from England the. Towers put up while I was gone and my ears ringing in my ears has gone up exponentially and it's it's crazy. It's so long that you cannot even hear it, but you can feel it and when you go away, something feels different lot when you go to England and you're in the country whatever something's different it's a different sound that constant ringing isn't there. It's almost like if you a lie on an an effeminate house by myself and I said the lie on I can era. Nine. It's so quiet pitched if I go up to say the plug socket. I can hear it imagine that all the time and a much higher frequency so that you can't hear it but it's still that you know that was his thing A courtroom. Ambassador, place it was. It was a country where there will say US embassy in say. Yet Cuba. People were saying American ambassador both saying that they had massive headaches and they couldn't hear right and I. Think it was a sonic attack on the American people said, they were playing somehow through the wolves or whatever high pitch frequencies which. FUCKING UP BRIAN and their body basically, and it caused so much damage to them like it them in Ospital and they couldn't even hear it. It's possible for a frequency. So high to be so damaging to your body that you can't hear it and he doesn't even know it's there like these five. How is essentially a microwave in your bedroom? Fifty microwaves GM. So powerful, you can't even hear the frequency, but it's such damage because it's a high frequency that can penetrate love attraction can a thought straight for the universe to high the frequency bascay ship? and. Here's one thing most people don't know about five G. is that the United States military has a patent on the same exact frequencies that are used in five G. for Like group dispersals. So they can take these microwave Amidror's, and they can put it on a group of riders and it starts heating up the molecules in their body to where they will disperse out of that area. Yeah, it's crazy absolutely tree. Yeah that is absolutely true. I can find the link and I could send it to you. That's fucking incredible I mean it's almost like if you start to feel sick then you'll kind of stop eating that thing that makes you feel. So if you start to feel a bit weird and environment down a restaurant or a pub, you'd say bad vibes and you go see you're saying those riots in the town, they would submit this. Sonic vibration that you can't even see. It will make you feel so weird and sick you disperse. Yes. fucking crazy man I mean I remember watching that on the history channel when I was back in high school about that in production whenever they were like doing experiments on it and whenever I looked into it earlier this year, the range of frequencies are the same frequencies that are in five G.. See. That's crazy because this keeping things we said. These people what so damaged by this vibration so high, they didn't even know it's there just imagine what five G. Towers even Wifi and three g notice five, three, G. Four, G. Five G. Wi fi. Light Bulbs, they will ever frequency just imagine all these energy vibrations doing to body that should only be vibrating at say five white hoods, which is the same frequency of all these the energies is interfering with all body and no wonder heart of the whole population gets the disease and dies of what's commonly known as cancer, which is the biggest disease up we die from. It's crazy. It's like it's taboo yet the lack of knowledge. Of the military did a study back in I, think it was the fifties or sixties where they took soldiers and put in a bunker is located away from the resonant frequencies of the year and over time these men pretty much started going crazy. Yeah and then bay reintroduced these frequencies these grounding frequencies eight of the earth and it brought him back to normal. So I mean, the whole population is developed in these other unnatural frequencies. Then we're all pretty much losing ourselves and we're losing the connection that we have with the world with our earth. You may or may not know this but. Back in World War Two. It's the you've got like the M harmonious. So fascia scale say that word. Yeah Fatty. So it's almost like on the piano you know, CD? ABC Yeah and like the shot crews. So they will go down in harmony for Michelle the out. What will days than whether? He will walk. L.. Every song supposed to be. Every bit music should be in home and he with those notes. For example, they changed the song notes rather than CD say to say see shop de Shop e Shop F sharp g shop. So they changed the frequency of say songs from say four, three two. Two Four. Five to write that difference of music is the difference between in harmony with music or not so. In the war days. They now have songs playing in that disarmament. This dissonance right everyone gets USA, does that music and vibration in distance that they use it to control the population to control people. Because it. Took them away from the perfectly in tune energy vibration, and then as time has gone by songs have always been in that vibration that that kind of frequency imagine that most songs written in C. Songs are written in say. because. It's just what has always been known. But if you go back in time to understand why songs written, for example, say it's because that vibration was what was used as kind of create music. And it's crazy like. They changed the frequency from safe four, three, two hearts to see four to three huts and it made the body this in harmony with itself. Starts to self destruct like the. What you're saying everything is supposed to be at home, but you change frequency slightly in. The fuck up everything everything goes from being in Hominy to not in harmony and then the disease and the shit that happens from being in harmony with yourself and you start to go crazy like those said soldiers in the in the room, the played the homogeneous frequencies and they balanced up again. But then they paid with these other disharmonious sees a driven crazy just by tweaking that vibration and that's why heavy metal music and rock music and all this all for. which he might have a disagreement on is so bad for your body and your cells because. When you play that with Russians t water as you know, you freeze the water and you see the molecules, it just demonized per harmonious classical music to the water. Perfect, crystal perfect symmetrical crystal, and that's what it's doing. So body stuff that's decent harm to us. It's. Making ourselves just fucking deformed. Exactly. I used to let listen to like heavier rock music and stuff and like the only rock music listen to nowadays is tool that's probably really it and I don't like much words and music nowadays but I can tell a difference now because one of my good friends that I work with he likes to listen to that heavy heavy metal and I go work with them earlier in the mornings about three to thirty three in the mornings. So I I'm just woken up out of bed I'm really sensitive to these vibrations and get into his car and he has he's like heavy metal music playing I'm like dude, I can't do this man it's like. Low Vibration Yeah Yeah at all. She lied just the matching what say How bad the heavy metal music makes you feel right you feel sick just imagine seth five G. Tower next year on all the time penetrating two phones, meters and meters of meters away maybe miles and yet you fucking less than one hundred meters by it is roasting the cells in your body in people's bodies live by towers let up forty, five brass infrequency and everything just grows like a plan it will just divide and so it would it would die and then divide keep growing a COUPLA with San Water you give you don't give you. Water and son. Dies you get your body. The vibration it needs to reproduce is going to become this in harmony. Ease disease harmony disharmony. It's played CDF F on the keyboard, and then you go to the minor notes whereas like see mine Dimona is slightly off. So black notes, it's not in harmony and. I. It. Was Man like even if you have a five G.. I'm not going to have one because I. Don't know what the hell's but just by having that phone in your bedroom means the tower is sending a charge to your house, and now there's five G. in your. House. Really the only way is through anyway airplane mode and. We'll go to you which I do is I believe is A. Good. Solution But airport my phone airplane mode every night before I go to bed. Videos on Youtube of like cities when you see like the invisible. Frequencies from data. If you look like a new on youtube, it's typing. Three g rise in a city. There's like thousands of people and you see streams of common off everyone's phone or round everyone head. The streams coming out the shops will the towers going down into the city is so he walked into laser quest. As the quest. Yeah. Yeah, start you going into a laser quest reflects say fifty thousand people playing laser quest. There's brims everywhere even if it's not your phone, you're walking into the beam. I mean I don't think we've had enough to really see the impact. It's like e cigarettes. We haven't really seen what each cigarettes due to body like smoking it was good. Now it's really bad. We know that a cigarettes. You could even say like opioids synthetic. Just whatever manmade shit, it's just quite new. We must see me in fact, let alone phones and let ten years ago phones with this shitty little knock here you snake on it right? To me years ago that. Little snake for and she's the it's really bad to put it by your. Imagine an iphone these days what that's doing to our air heating themselves in our area, clumping the wax in our air causing tension in the brain causing blood clots closing. fucking brain treatments, which is a clump sells. Really Stop. I always will put my phone on speaker will never put it up to my ear unless. Something wrong with the phone and I have to put it up to my ear I hate doing yeah. No, that's a massive difference putting on loudspeaker rather than putting to air and woven laying on your chest in bed. 'cause you're fucking heating up your heart, right I. Don't do that anymore put it on the side I mean even let blue TV phones like like. Like these, the sound vibrations I noticed when I depot costs I've got such walks in my area just from speaking you'll your deep gazebo voice goes through my offense. And I've got wacked ship. Think about Bluetooth. If it's not just sound, it's the the vibrations of emf as well and I used to get Compu- waxy my my is just Apple Lip. Apples. I had a I have an old friend. We've known each other for like over almost thirty years and it's about eight years ago seven eight years ago might ears were starting to ring and she's like you have those Bluetooth headphones don't you? Yeah she's like stop wearing. Like. Okay. But now does Bluetooth it's almost become so ingrained, it's almost like second nature but yeah I always have I only have courted headphones out. So I. Did lose I will admit I did have a Nice Bluetooth headphones that I did like how around because they are just so convenient especially when you're out in public but I lost him in I, think the London airport so. This. MINUS MY MONEY. The day was saying how she wants a Toyota that has radio via FM of than an APP because she doesn't want us to use data and I was like fortunately, that doesn't exist in your phone you want by NFL get locker shitty phone from a you know a shitty shop flux five quit and then use the area as the Tanna but everything goes back around dislike vinyl. So you know vintage it was comes back around there will be like phones coming out where you can have a radio without data. Oh Yeah I've been seeing like different phones that you can attach all these different attachments on an have different things. That's pretty cool. Though I'm a pretty as much as against technology I. AM I like watching a bunch of tech stuff? It's very. counterintuitive almost hypocritical. Few been. Working out lately in your mind, we tried to understand lately. So I guess what I have been doing lately getting back from wealth. Yogi. going. From Having that community in such like minded group of people. And then coming back home to. Almost. Isolation Man. It has been. It's been challenging. I'll say like first month I got back was like almost straight depression is like man I'm back home alone. What about what am I doing? And I have to and what master told me. He's like the only thing that's going to help you stay focused is sticking with your yoga and doing downward dog and your better tation. Otherwise you're gonNA feed getting pulled and all these other different directions by other people's energy, which is admittedly have. BEEN DOING BUT I've been getting back into my yoga and meditation, and it has helping me tremendously and I've been getting back in contact with other wealth yogis in starting. Other projects. So getting back into like the cancer. And other thing that I learned earlier this week that can causes cancer and even Our cleaning supplies that we clean our house with. So they say cleanliness is next to godliness. But what does the cleaning supplies that we're using are making our home more toxic than it was before we started cleaning? So it has been shown that cleaning our houses with regular normal cleaning supplies. Once a week is comparable to smoking a pack of cigarettes a day. and. I was like, oh. My Gosh I did not know that by grandma she is like. Always claims the house and she uses tide detergent like one of the first questions I was asked was D- know anybody who uses tide detergent as against my grandma does and she's like does your family have any breathing difficulties as like my grandfather has really bad breathing difficulties and I was like he blames it on the cat but I don't believe it's the cat I think it's something else and she's like it's probably all the cleaning supplies that you're cleaning your house with that. You're just reading all that toxic fumes in and is getting in your lungs and tear everything up. As like Oh. Okay. So I've thrown all of our cleaning supplies out and I bought branded cleaning supplies from this other company that makes natural earth friendly products that are so safe that a child they don't have childproof caps on their products. They're so safe that a child can like ingest it and not have to be taken to the hospital. So. It's It's the it does drive me crazy I wash with products. She's water when either Shit I do not want my ass I straight not shower I will not shit unless another shower is not necessary to use toilet roll used product. Jesse's water is what nature has always had will have when I have long hair. I saw every three months just because. The pressure of having greasy hair and people just became to March that you just need to reset. Audit believe in products other than soap and believe in hair shampoo I don't believe in any made shit. It's all about business and compensated for something nature already has to offer. Yeah. The, cleaning products the not to stop the found. This may chat about the same. There was never necessary in the first place because if you've got this natural share. Shokhin of but what can you have had that not to ship before? And you. Every thoughts, it was cheaper to use synthetic chemicals than to get extract from natural products that was the basis of it. As. It was crazy. IS THAT WE FOLLOW Guidelines, government guidelines, and guidelines of this and that. And everything ends up being a really bad for you in the end. What does that say? You. Just a giant thirty, fifty year experiments. Then we figure out odds bad for you, and then these companies have to pay out these damn. It is. Absolutely it's like, did you Johnson and Johnson's oil on your Percy twenty years ago I if you've got cancer, you might eligible for a claim and lady like when I was seventeen, I used to rob my policy with Johnson's I'll and I can't Amman Nunu I want to an it's the same forever. Speaking of Johnson and Johnson I, mean, they just had a four point four billion dollar lawsuit in two thousand, eighteen they had to pay for their baby powder examining how best is yes bestest in their baby powder. Kidding me and he's like, what do you expect if you rub your for giant with a man made chemical like it's manmade you kind of get over that. What you expect, you let your body absorb manmade chemical when you marinade chicken or steak Wasserman's it. Jeff absorbs into the muscle of the state. We in a different to that chicken that state if you pull oil creams on your skin is going to absorb it schools Charles and south they say doesn't draw pen on you could you body will absorb it and I'm like, Oh, it's nonsense but now I understand that that really is. Is powerful if you only creams and oils and stuff like that. What do you expect to happen? Your body's going to react if you want Your body's going to try and buy like a flu who is going to be like Gimme more exactly like being a mechanic and working on cars before I was woke so to speak. I would spray my hands and clean them up with a B twelve chemical, which was carburetor cleaner for the cars, and it would just like get all that oil and stop mafia hands so easy and I was out working on my car and I had all that stuff on my hands and I hadn't done it in a while. So I cleaned off my. Hands with that beat twelve chemical and about ten minutes later I was just I. Felt Sick I had to go lay down I was lightheaded. My stomach felt nauseous as like it was spraying that stuff on my hands I've become so sensitive to I went and washed my hands and made sure it was all off in about thirty minutes later I started feeling better. Leg RBC. No more cleaning my hands with all the chemical stuff. I just absorbed all his treat. My Dad used to always Jimmy white spirit. To. Get off paint right spare is to. Be some kind of POW. For. fucking petrochemical and. Lane. Is just put put it on because it does get it off and then you smell your hand and you still can't get smell away and it's like if your boat when you drink water, it goes into your stomach and your body absorbs that K.. If you put if you put white spirit or petrol on your skin, it's going to absorb it just like the stomach absorbs water. Then what happens as it sends that why Spirit Round your body gives you Rogan's with this chemical. Petrol bollocks we'll do expect to happen. You knew how cocaine's made coca leaves Pat Jewel. Battery acid using. I Made Right. He's LIPOIC fucking petrol onto the leaves mixing get around. That's what the highest you would never. Touch petrol alone sniffer, but you don't understand how cocaine's made. So, you you sniff is absolutely insane. They either use cocaine or gasoline or diesel. That's like Oh man tree acid Jesus Christ we told her we're kid but touch it back through the tongue and shit and yet you know these as everyone's sniffing cocaine and it's literally pouring tree. I. Said That you put in batteries I mean even cigarettes you know the chemicals and killer and all that nonsense up it. Really. Laughable because you can't change it because it's just the way it is. When you want to help the world, you realize you come. You have to laugh because you're gonNA fucking cry because you PA problem that we can't get away from. Everything because you just become a monk if you're not going to be part society united. Yeah that's very true. To a few gay, I would call the a high a human high best normal don't just come across the group that will the same as you. I don't have anyone like you and myself around me at all Opon- line and I can't just move to America and then moved to Canada because they won't over the place don't just in one place. So when you? Go ahead, man. That's what the meditation, the Yoki which you do by yourself grounds year. Yes so important and you realize. How badly you needed it when you don't do it survives stopped meditating. Agitated for walks. Get agitated. And by walking and meditating you a you balanced and you and you realize when you stop doing something like that that that's why I was agitated. So masters. Meditation Yogi. Stitz the is the drug of. Of Insanity literally and in his life anyway. And we can fill that agitation and it can just be this little bit of agitation and we don't do anything about it for so long until it builds up and builds up until it boils over and starts creating like chronic problems within the body. And it reminds me of a story just a little short story about this man. He had this dog and it was always whimpering and his neighbor came over and he's like what's wrong with your dog? And he's like well, he's sitting on a nail. He's like apparently it doesn't hurt bad enough for it to get up, but it hurts bad enough for him to complain about it. So I mean it has to hurt bad enough in your life. You have to have that reason that drive to like get out of your comfort zone and yes, which yourself to do something because if you're stuck in your life and your uncomfortable in your miserable, but you don't have that reason to get out and do something you're GonNa continue to just stay there and be uncomfortable and miserable. So like hang yourself surrounded even if it is virtually like master says your tribe is your vibe. That have people around you. That helped lift you up and motivate you into that direction that we're all trying to get towards. So it will when we dream we. Saw So body can orgasm. In in our brain and even though even gotten direct cock about says powerful the brainers say I'm having this conversation with you your stimulate nerve cells and neurons that. Would only be able to have stimulated by somebody being physically. So it doesn't matter that you're fifty billion dollars away because the outcomes the same. If I was having a chat with you buy is closed in my room and have a shot with the with my eyes closed here I can see you. Faren your stimulating the same the same neurons in my brain. So it doesn't matter of fact, physically because as you know. There's no such thing as time quantum entanglement everything is just one the distance doesn't have any relevance is. Connected so whether I'm speaking she. Billions of miles away or year my room. We're not wavelength which stimulates my body, which is the the the purpose of being around like minded people say it's not convenient. Dot Com they touch and smell you book. It's still doing the same thing because I'm in my brain get not stimulation of my brain activity because I'm putting out why won't come back? Yeah most certainly helps that was like one of my reasons you really, Hey, you wanna come back on the podcast and I was like man I've been sitting here kind of an isolation not talking to anybody as a yeah I think that'd be very good for me. I need to get out and talk to the like minded people and get some ideas out there that I haven't really been able to talk to you to anybody around here because they're all just like closed minded off doing their own thing which makes me intern kinda be closed minded to everyone else do my own thing which kind of is counterproductive to everything that I'm trying to do in the first place So. I had to just stay open minded and listen to other people even if it's not exactly what i Mike agreeing to our. What does the word I'm looking for? It isn't necessarily something I agree with, but I am listening to them. I'm getting their opinion getting their perspective and respect that and then move on with my own life and not just isolating myself from people just because I don't want to deal with them. And that's the way I've kind of always done things you live with go friend, right? no I actually am single. So I am living pretty much by myself. I live with my grandparents off on, they have a cabin in. Colorado. So that's about six seven, hundred miles away and they stay there half of the year. So the other half of the year just I'm staying here and watch their house. Me and my cat. Chilling see. This is the thing is very tricky because if you are exposed to something at early age and you never exists and you want it right the offscreen vans round the corner you're gonNA cream. Screen van is then he doesn't exist if you're in law and looking at all these like minded people and you start to study that your brain's GonNa become back and you're going to become out of Balance With the people around you who are just happy to. Fix Cars, cut down trees and never bear and whatever. Yeah. So once you have that Miami never going to be that person again, it's like once chance slower third leg, you can't have to anymore. So you'll situation bizarrely a few outcomes you stay where you are you communicate online and do you like. podcasting like this, you'd have to put it online but reach out to people and described with them. All of the people who Diogo of they know your best friend for life reach out. Have a conversation with them as I said when I D podcasts I feel so amazing off towards right because of the stuffy spoken about. But if you WANNA put it online than Nash, just a reason to keep. Speaking to these people because you've got. Stuff out for people but really about the conversation between you and somebody else. Oh you have to pick your ass up and move to a place where you have like minded people so. The factual Cinco is perfect. The fact that your grandparents you might need to be around for them. That's not perfect. So you've got things that could hold you back. But if you -bility to move find a place where there's like minded people I, don't know where in America as might be California Florida I. Don't know what he's. Let's just say Yogi people hang out right. But if you have a job and you can pay the rent, it's no different to being here and paying the rent having a job it's no different. You know the payment be more in a in a California but the rents more your wage might be less here but you rents less says ratio and. Really there is no other choice once she become to eleven of. Awareness. You Eva. Hang around the vibrations or you suffering inside wishing that you. Have this energy I was the same. So. There is no tipoffs online reach out stay where you are physically move to this lifestyle and he doesn't have the America get to. Norway got the Franck got to Belgium. Go to Sweden Iceland right just in a place where there's more like minded people like you know. Is a yoga classes where you are or meditation classes like Western Nearest Yoga. A gym but does Yoga. Legend active. The does yoga stuff and classes pilot season. Yeah. Around here there's not there's not much I just started teaching a friend in her family some yoga and we did a little meditation this last week and so I I'm starting to like do my own teaching here and. There is. Where my father lives, he lives in a he has about seventy acres on. Have you heard of Austin Texas off course I've had vaults and taxes in fucking. He's got about seventy acres down in Austin Texas, and he told me to just come down and he can be can build a house somewhere on the line and. Runs down next to the river. It's really nice kids. Yeah. You Let. Yeah build a Yoga Studio and teach people virtually. Exactly. He says like all you have to do is come down here and help me farm the land I was like all right I'll get on the tractor and motor hey. Having a purpose doing bat in nature is already something more powerful than yoga meditation because that's sorta compensate this material life where you're cutting the grass in nature. That's all humans have had. And he could build a farmhouse cabin do online virtual yoga don't charge initially but as build up people thought charging and just like a laptop on the wall get Yoga Mat and record and just zoom co like with Yogi Shit. That's how you doing anyway for like you and your House fifty people on the screen apart for doing yoga and people get to know your. Routines they love it that you know you start paying them charging them five pound the session wherever you WanNa Demon GonNa create if not to create it. So. Yeah. One thing I've been doing is So I, I have a driving simulator. And I've been following this one guy on Youtube who does driving driving. His simulator online and he has about one hundred thousand followers and I've seen his residual income from the videos. He makes I'm like, wow, he's actually making a pretty decent living doing something he already loves doing and I had a buddy who gave me a web cam for my main desktop computer, and so I've started like recording racing and stuff. So I can upload to Youtube for that and then I have my own car that I started like working on again and working on like a recording myself changing parts and repairing my car and how to videos and how to do certain parts on my car. Definitely have been getting on trying to get onto youtube and start getting consistent making videos there. 'cause I've just seen how much residual income people can make if they are consistent on that platform. Consists the key to anything like you literally play call of duty fever racing on your laptop screen recalled that upload to Youtube People Watch it. It's fucking crazy why and I forget this billions of kids who obsessive G GT and modern warfare and all those other bollocks begins people just Watch Watch Watch Watch Watch watch. These vs In My Buddy, who gave me the the Webcam he's a big tech guy. So he pretty much gave me a pretty nice gaming computer for free. He just he was at work he had all these spare parts from feces he was working on at work and he's like, Hey. I have all these parts you want him to build a PC as sure. So just Kinda like snowballed. One thing into another I've learned how to build computers I've learned how the in and outs of. Like how to diagnose problems and that's been really fun. It's almost like working on a car just smaller form factor. So I've enjoyed that. Yeah If what you have isn't that you're GONNA create. no, there's no question because what you have is big created by somebody else. So even live his fantasy you create your own. So my my outlook right now, my path. So my father has. Bought a lot of manufacturing equipment to start making stuff and with my a welding background and fabrication background we were going to go down there and I was going to start building parts for cars My Buddy has a off road vehicle. So we're going to use his car's a template, and then just market everything online that we build, and that was going to be another source of income that we're going to try and create. So. Trying to find different ways to have some source of income like as they say, if you're going to be investing in stocks, you want to diversify your stocks. He doesn't want to just throw all your money into one thing. So that's kind of way I'm looking at all of my different projects right now I have the stuff I want to work on with my father I have another project I'm working on with wealth yogis. I have another project that I'm working on with a really close friend. So I have multiple projects that are potential sources of revenue that are passive income in the future so. It just takes a creative open mind like source out. The possibilities. We'll put you couldn't have the AK if you can say so of I'm GONNA I was talking about earlier we were just promoting a company called Melaleuca it is that company that creates the natural products, environmentally friendly, nontoxic cleaning products and They have like shampoos soaps, all your normal house hold products that you normally use. They have all of those in a non-toxic warm, and they also have like food and supplements that are made from high quality organic. Products so Yeah, I just. Completely on board with their message and I had another wealth Yogi, share it with me earlier this week I was like, yeah, I'm on board. Let's share this message with people in. Get them aware about what they're doing with their health about cleaning their house every day. But these cleaning products 'cause I mean if we can just improve people's health by changing the products that they claimed with and then that that can be a big impact with people's help around the country and around the world. So I mean if it can take out people's asthma I mean there's so many children with asthma nowadays what because you're constantly cleaning your house because you don't want your child to get is because of that hundred percent. Sarah fuck tits the problem. The solution is the problem. Your. After, a week and your poisoning, your child with all the nauseous toxic fumes are using to clean the house. Yet making your fucking Vegan gluten free dairy free before even had a nut and his body doesn't even know nut his. So now he has a not smells dot e fucking dies K.. And I mean. Like kids play more case, get out the mud in there now and then get worms or some shit like that. It's so against nature every. fucking. I. Love a good mudbath man just putting on your skin and let it. It's. I'm I'm I'm really talks some three today I am let's wrap this up plug anything you WANNA plug websites instagram. Have you learned Plug in is If anybody is interested in about any learning more about the products, the natural products Melaleuca they could contact me on facebook Timothy Burton stovall. You can find me on facebook and message me there and I was gone more information about these natural, just amazing products that can potentially change your life in your health and possibly financially. So I that's what I'm plugging in right now. 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Ep. 35: We Had A Good Ride

Room 77 | Podcast

54:16 min | 3 months ago

Ep. 35: We Had A Good Ride

"This podcast contains explicit content language and sexual situations. It is intended for adults, eighteen years of age and older. These thoughts and opinions expressed are not those of any specific employer group for individual. Rates we decided to sell everything and move to Cancun Mexico. Now we do it, we love both Party and play in the middle of Paradise after eighteen years in the lifestyle we thought we saw it all we were so wrong. So wrong Oh my God. So Ron now we want to share the fund that we get to have every day. So come to room seventy seven. Let's play. Lauren. Pressure. I don't know why I'm screaming. Do that on zoom calls because I want to get everybody's attention. Well, you do it like that your laptop is far away and you scream at it so much so that I when I was down feeding the Iguana Godzilla he was like I don't know if I want to get these Graves Emmanuelli I literally turning into my father more and more every day I don't need speaker phone with him. He literally, just screams everything into the phone so loud that I just set it down here it on normal. I try to tell you something like, Hey, guess what when my father just said you like already heard. Everyone can hear it. I know he said Blah Blah Blah and you're like, you heard him say that that's okay. But I say really enjoyed you end I'm GonNa put you guys in the same category both you and Eminem dropped a song in the same month and yours had little Hamilton take eminem's was about I. Don't know bitches or something. But both of you I, think climbed the charts rather quickly. So well done on that. Yeah. I just want to say again I thought it was amazing. I? Really did I really surprised because I hadn't heard it now until you recorded it. So thank for that. We all enjoyed it also thank you so much. We got a lot of. Of Love and support after. So we want to thank everybody in general just for reaching out and saying, Hey, guys that sucks and we love you that really meant a lot to me as to how you guys feeling when a whole way. So getting off to a horrible start, which is sort of my forte. It's your though if anybody didn't know already be works for us. So we now pay be a nominal fee to do small little tasks for us that we have otherwise a hard time getting done We're supporting her a little bit not a lot but a little bit and she us a lot mostly with Spanish and some some other things here in Mexico. The thing is is I have this little rule that I like to sleep with employees. That's sort of I think now this is a problem. Or an HR rule. We don't have. We don't have an HR department, but our part department wouldn't have rule against. Okay. Okay. Yeah. In our company sexual harassment. It's all crossed out for some reason. It redacted. reducted just sign right here in fact. This harassment for him is we're going to need a photocopy of your ass on the photocopy machine. That's That's how you accept agreement. So yes so she's been working for us. Here's the problem with that I. Really do don't want to like take advantage of it and I don't know what people think about the three of us, but we are not always having sex with barely ever are sexual in any way shape or form right? The problem with this is that be happens to be a very, extremely horny individual. Like she does not stop thinking about sex and I am kind of a worker bee like I'm working working working athletic be get your fucking hand off my penis right now. Please stop. All the men right now are just like bowling over to the side of the road richer. Realize that I know they're going to hate me because a absolutely true ba she works at her panties be she works in a pattern. Here. It's like, Oh, Richard Gere. Alfred. What is happening, but the truth is is Sort of ethics in like I don't really WanNa take advantage. It feels very like I know feels harassment d to me right anyway. So it's like I try to draw this little. As thin as it may be so and then on top of that is a lot of stress stress and when I'm under a lot of stress, you're under a lot of stress by libido just goes away. So we were sitting here. One night and we are watching what I'm sorry I m B or on the couch doing I have no idea what I know what I was doing and I hope to the listener can appreciate this I was watching edge of tomorrow. Now if you don't know what edge of tomorrow tomorrow is a movie with Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt, it's a great movie to watch and I've seen it about Fifty seven times seriously if see it in that thing, it's one of those few movies that you can start at any time you meaning you specific and you do you will literally stop it in the Guide and just start for me golden retriever with Squirrel as soon as I. See that movie just stop what I'm doing it. I start staring edge of tomorrow and here's why right? Because IT'S A. Tiny little short film. It's the same scene kind of over and over and over again very exciting gives you a Lotta entry points to start the film never get lost. It's amazing and I will watch it every single time it's on. Now we have be sitting next to me again I don't know what you guys are doing and she is extra extra horny tonight and I'm like really watching this. She pointblank at this point came out she was so sexually frustrated at me at this point was like Richard I need to fuck. Now mind you I'm just going to interject on my behalf. This is something that rarely comes out of Lawrence Mel? Yeah I'm not that person that says I need to fuck I say do you WanNa fuck I'd like to fuck your it's very like optimistic and optional. If you've seen be, you can go look what their twitter it's at just score honeybee at just underscore honeybee. So just take him go look at her paws to come back here and imagine that girl looking at us saying Richard I need to fuck regardless of your name is Richard. It really matter does it matter at this point now most normal men would just there named Richard Wright. It'd just be like, let's go what comes out of my mouth is I really want to see the end of this movie I kind of heard myself like fuck is wrong with you. Say and then you move from the couch. To the Ottoman, I can't sit closer to the. TV. Out of her touchy touchy. Petty Petty Paws Reach Tube Day where like looking at each other like should we go jogging or do you think like we can entertain ourselves? What's happening tonight? I read honestly this is the fifty seventh time in this film. Richer I do I say to were, I will fuck you witnessed movie is over but the truth is also a little bit scared. I'm a little intimidated I. Always get this way, but I say, all right you ladies, WanNa fuck your included in there. You're like, yeah let's let's all go fuck. Let's do it. We have done in a long time. Let's do it. Yeah. So I, I'M GONNA go upstairs shower because that's sort of my thing I like to smell fresh and I go up there I lay in the bed and I'm like, oh, getting nervous getting nervous. So I lie down on. The bed naked I know you guys down on the first floor of in the bedroom third-floor and I start texting you honey I'm really nervous I. Don't know if I can do I really don't and you're like, well, don't worry about it. No pressure like I'm going to try I'm just GONNA try to get hard up here. So I immediately take like seven Viagra and I, start stroking myself right now. Once I'm hard and I'm stroking myself my brain immediately goes where these bitches text Megan get upset me what's that will what's up that flips Etienne's like get up here and suck my cock. In, fuck mode and I go to town not so much on you because you wanted to sort of just lay back and watch you lazy bitch you're. Right, but I went to town on be I fucked her like really like she wanted. And I try really hard again she's really young shape. Don't really know what I'm doing. So I just try. Again I'm in the same circumstances as I was in last broadcast where the lovely beautiful lady said, I want to be on top of you which from what a year afterwards because we had a conversation, this is a happy position for most women. Yes. Yeah. Because it hits the right spot while yeah because you get to most penises will fit inside. You just find yours is a bit long. So it's hard but you can also have that internal feeling and be riding your click on that pubic bone right there and it feels really good. So it's a Win Win for us. All right. Great. This is honestly forty something years. I give myself a break for at least ten of those never really had that information. It's to do it that way right now here's the problem. Always brought this up in QNA's that we had done with with guests and the question was that I had asked for guest was am I. The only person who is afraid where in reverse cowgirl or in when the girls on top that your Dick is GonNa break that one person answered yes I was in a pool all by myself. I'm the only one. But I have this fear going to bring you back. Crunchy Europeana's right. Now, as you're talking about I am going to tell you why I don't know if you know this, but it used to be an actor Oh and in the beginning phases of my life, I started by doing some commercials to start. Thomas, in Boston doing a I think a car commercial in Boston the night before I had to do this car commercial me and the other actor at an who it was He's as you want to go out and get a drink I said, yeah let's go get a drink. So we we get a drink drinking beers like you know Frat guys like guys do use it a beer drinker and sitting this bar and he's telling me a story and it's a sex story as about him fucking. Woman and tells me that while he was fucking her, he broke his penis while he was fucking her and had to go to the hospital and I was on the floor I almost passed serious I almost passed out to the point where he had to help me back. That's how squeamish I know you're that squeamish. No, you were on the floor in a bar. That's even more squeamish. But I am a Germaphobe I never passed out but I was down like I had to take a knee because I was about to fall on like. And that scarred me for life. So here we are now back to present and be wants to be on top of me. Now I don't know if you've ever seen these, ask right. She has the ass of like a gymnast maybe or like a little baby linebackers. Plays for the colts right. I mean her assets vehicle yeah baby. Colts. It's tiny, but it's all fucking muscle. Right. So soon as I turn over and she's on top of me, she takes cock and she puts it in there. She starts doing that thing with that women with really fantastic asses do where they just sort of twerk on top of you. Now, you brought up the length of by PSI I. think that's one of the problems. So it starts to like Ben and I start to sweat profusely because I feel like tonight's the night penis breaks grabbed the back of her ass right and we're fighting now for control she's trying to do her thing and I'm trying to control it just little baby linebacker fucking my. Right. Now I right now because we have been sick and out of work, we have not had access to a gym right a lot of my muscles have shrunk I just told you today that my legs look like I was in a coma and there was a nurse just doing mobility for me for the past seven months or so that's what my legs look like a little bird legs right now right? To be the Richard is gonNA fucking kick. My Ass. So she's fucked she's slamming down Flam flam slabs. So finally, I go I can't do that stop at I can't fuck on my back community that why I just get back or I'll take you doggy. Jewish. Why can't you fucking about I'll tell you later right. Don't get me out of my heart Zona Marty losing it, right? Yeah. Where is she? Is She here? Yeah. She maybe master many. Is She downstairs in the other room. Got I to talk to talk to. Go get her okay. Going to pose are right here she comes her pants of course. because. That's how she works. It's from hello. Hello. There just almost eight, the microphone you'll get. It's not a penis. Keep telling you that. So we talked about that night that you almost broke off. Now I am not here to talk about what a fantastic lover I am. I am not here to talk about your thoughts that I have ruined you. Any other man that is not why we're here right now right now as time. has anyone in your life ever stopped you while you're on top and said, Hey, stop I feel like you may break my penis. Never, ever you're the first person that I felt I was giving CPR to. Because I was like I wanted to stay on top and he was just pushing me yeah because I was afraid at that point because your body is like a little superpower with great power comes great responsibility. Okay. Yeah. You're Jack Hiring me did you see her talking on me where where were you like that view of a woman on top of you and being able with your legs spread a little bit and especially with her rockstar ask it's such a hot thing. I'm sure it looks cool super. Hot It looks awesome. Doesn't feel better for you being in that position to set your favorite position not. So my favorite, but I like taking control some time. Did you start choking? 'cause you were pushing me. We're at a little fight. Because I was blocked, it was like the porn version of west side story. A lot of hip thrusts. Jazz. A little fosse never heard anybody. Before kick you out of here. Okay. Case what happened before regardless of me, bouncing you off saying get off the you're Outta here lady did you have a good time? D C You time? Yeah. Are you happy that you were horny and you said I need to fuck tonight Richard. got. We're going to default because they need it you happy with yourself. Yeah. You are very difficult person to convince I think difficult person could in that sense. I don't think you really need to go on. something. That'd be nice. Keep for many days and finally said, yes, of course I'm happy you don't. You can't have too much of this be. That's addictive. So before I kick you out of here because we have to finish this, are you joining your your job here at the Ed Room? Seventy, seven offices yes. Yes, I get to have. I can hang out in my pennies today we took a photo of be working really hard, which was a photo of be asleep on the couch in her Thong. Let me just I posted it on. It was like we just finished a conference call and she had had enough. It's like Google. You know he's just like you just open office space. You do what you want except everybody's in their underwear. All right. Be Your amazing as always get back to doing whatever it is. You're doing. Okay. We'll talk later and can we have six later to not tonight? I'm sorry. I'm busy. Anyway the rest was fun I wound up fucking you afterwards while she watched with a vibrator and a came inside of you hoping in nine months, we'll have a little bundle of joy. It's my hopes because I. For different things, I, just WanNa, bring a little bundle of joy into this particular world that we live in. Such a great year we be. Super Healthy. Last thing I want to do is bringing child. Right. But world is horrible. It's on fire. So then afterwards, we spent a lot of time lying on the bed and I was giving you demonstrations of Penis and the Shave Martinez and what it feels like and I was like now here's my penis this is your vagina be. This is how you are fucking me and this is how my penis feels. Now, the look that you guys were giving me was like nothing you're saying make sense to me. Do you understand or does any on out there understand what I'm talking about because I really I. Do feel a little bit insane. So I feel like even think when we go up a wave off of you. Slip out just enough and when we come back down, it's going to end up in our para neom something tain something where it gets squished bent bent yes. Meet someone at the resort who'd had a friend where we did but I don't know who it was. I need someone to please I feel like I'm doing an ASPCA commercial someone please reach out and help. Richard. Area chain to offense like. Someone helped me because it feel a little bit insane on this one I always trying when you were talking about I was like okay I get it for cowgirl not down because I feel like you should be able to handle that reverse cowgirl is. I sort of get what you're saying because Europeans long has that natural curves fiber verse it's curving opposite and I feel like I would be not as good at judging my up and down skills and it I could sit on it right. But I don't think Swedish by me just talk a little bit I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. I understand what you're saying but I don't think any woman ever gets on top of a guy and ever thought I've just gotTa make sure I. Don't Break Penis. Break your penis, the cartilage tears and breaks is it like break you break your nose? Cartlidge or I guess yeah. But it I can't imagine it feels good. It deviated semen just making up words. I don't know if it's true or not. All right. We'll. We'll have to put you on your medical school demore research. I can't Google Broken Pena's because of fear of what I'm going to read or see I thought about it but I won't do it why yeah. I think you need to do it for our listener. Brings me right back to that bar in Boston. We were drinking beers and whiskey listen to neil diamond. I don't know what we really do just want something to sound Manley Neil diamond choice which art I'll try it again. When I was far in Boston drinking beer and whisky listening to Elton. John's no I think that. I don't know I'm crazy but I would appreciate the listeners advice gear for if anybody this has happened or they have fear of it at the very least I would like to. Anyway speaking of Amos is that time for us to creep on someone and we're creeping on these people using all playground dot net. If you WANNA hook up with some really really hot Hadi's Gorda all playground dot net check that sight out they just took over a bunch of other sites. So it added I think I says teen million seventeen million. Yeah. People. Now that number has a plus or minus accuracy of fifty two, point eight, million. Standard Deviations Evan. So we don't know where that number don't take our word for it. Just go check it out. They are bringing more people on every month and doing really cool stuff over there and right now I'm looking at one very hot couple now I. Say That I said I said, I wanted their profile. File name also one very hot couple. All one word I am staring three pictures here. I would like to do what he's doing to her right now you WanNa, go down on her or you want to go down on me and take a picture like all of them I would like to be there having my penis held like that to be down on her doing that it is from her perspective in this photo she was quite drunk because it is quite quite blurry. Quite. Blurry. So her pov is just obscured in that other over there. She just looks like she's writing regular cowgirls. So that's good because that Cohen with this segment one. Yes I wonder. If this moment he's wondering, Hey, will my penis break I, doubt it go check out one very hot couple over at all playground dot net. There is this thing down here where they said a little bit of interest in videotape. Maybe awesome. Maybe. If you want to make a little only fans video ringers. Will Blur it out like your job. We are auditioning now. So check it out and join our community. We have a community over there that we check at least once a week. Yeah. Find US rooms seventy seven. All right. Lauren how you feel I feel sunny and breezy feel a little bit Tan. I feel special. I feel expensive. Yeah. You know why? Here's why? Because we spent the weekend at the Mansion Desire Pearl and I believe the phrase that comes with the match matching is we're better than you. Yeah we WANNA. Thank our host. They said we could use their real name adding Katie and they said Hey. Why don't you come down and be our guest B.? R. Be our guest. This is around for another copyright infringement. Yeah. So they put us up at the mansion. Yeah, and we had an amazing time. We had a swim up room with a pool and swaying so much like closets Galore and fancy lights and a Butler that did stuff. We had so much room. I stole clothing from around the resort just to put it in our closet checked in I, think our champagne was more expensive. Bridge was stocked. I asked our Butler to put the entire mini fridge in our car. He wouldn't do it. Ill Avenue. Are, we had to stop that story. Yes. We have to stop it in its tracks because we have a announcement. Did. Show. We did have a whole segment about our experience at desire that weekend and it had a lot of really cool things in it. It had a lot of stuff with ED and Katie are host and time we spent with them. It had a Jacuzzi story, a great Jacuzzi story where a girl stood up and started on everybody. Bathing her boyfriend's mouth until she was kicked out by security. So I was that was a first for us. We also met a really cool chick call her Karen, but she wanted to have sex with be just for scientific purposes. T believed our pussy was tight and she needed to have you examine that was her reasoning. It was all four sides. I love that which I respect the pull that out here's why listen we want to thank everybody especially thank that big Dick from Seattle. You know who you are mark of Liz and mark who really really helped us out. We also had a lot of people who came here and met US at Law Serena and we had some dinner and they brought gifts and gum and I got away sex toys, toys. I got an evil that I was obsessed with which by the way was false advertising and chat about that later I'm going to sue the entire company. some pretty big changes want to keep you guys sort of up to date with everything. We actually we went in and we had a meeting with the GM of the hotel and we just sat down and had a discussion and think we both came to the understanding that we may, in fact, be on different paths and wanted to possibly do some different things during the meeting we came to an agreement that we're going to separate our brand. Since we've gotten bigger, we're just going to move in different directions so we won't be directly aligned with desire anymore, and during the workshops there had stopped, it was very civil meeting. They heard us. We heard them unfortunately I just think we did our time there we grew apart and we thank them so much for everything that they've done for us in the past three years. We've we've had an absolute blast we really have If you did book through us, we still get the credit. So don't worry if you have any problems with your reservation or whatever. You could still call Lauren and say I need your box to help me please do if you did but threats and you have to cancel make changes reach out to us I can't track that credit because it's really important to us and our livelihood. So just don't cancel just keep that reservation. We'll still get credit for that going forward. You could still book through us. It's just going to be a little bit different on our end. That's all it's made Lauren very happy because she has found her vocation. There's nothing I've seen her enjoy more than being a fucking travel agent and I'm not even kidding. Sitting with your little glasses and your head piece doing logistics I like to get to know everybody do I know you really enjoy it and you? We're looking forward to being able to keep doing that we appreciate everybody that helped us as far as supporting us that way we just got to meet a bunch of cool people. So now we'll see you in different places. Here's the thing. This is what we want to end with as far as desire goes If you're near a listening device which I imagine you are lean in we love desire we love it there. It is also our happiest place on Earth we all feel a certain way when we are there at the resort and it is important for Lauren and myself to express to you how special it is and why it's special. Please remember that that desire resorts. Are. Not about the walls, the pools it is what surrounds all of those things it is the energy that you occupy in that space that space feels magic because of our community, the power and the magic lot is in all of us having a place where you can walk in and not be judged and be able to be here you are in a literal naked and metaphorical shakhid sense. We moved our entire life because of this concept and the opportunity to. Be Able to work there in some capacity, and the fact of the matter is we had no idea how we were going to make money or how we were going to support ourselves with this little dream. We just knew that to us it was happiness and We don't regret picking up everything and and leaving. We came here because that place feels amazing. We can't stress this enough no that that is a representation of you. The employees are representation of you. The vibe that we give one another is truly second to none when you talk about the service, that is a reflection of you, you are bringing out the best of all of the people that you interact with nothing will ever change that sensation. The experiences that we we had their desire is not a longitude and latitude, but walls do not hold the magic you do. So we are going to move on to better things. Now we have no idea what those. Bigger better podcast with bigger and better. We don't know what's next. We're going to try to keep moving forward. We are going to move forward. We are going to move forward with us while we pivot and try to make this transition we want to thank the resort for all of the opportunity that you gave us you changed our lives we had a blast and we got to be there please Remember right now, we're still important Morello's we right around the corner if you WANNA reach out while you're here we're going to hopefully announce a small dog and pony show something. Yeah. I've been working on some new ideas. I think that go back to stunt driving school and maybe do that like topless taxi with some stunt driving skills. You know why I like that idea because it feels grounded. Feels attainable is grounded in reality. I. Don't speak the best Spanish and I think that being a taxi driver in a in a town where I don't really know where going yeah. We won't pick up local. Seem racist at all. Google that. Not, today one sorry. Taxi for gringos. You're not going to drive a cab they could still support us. Well, my box made like a little different in a next time you come by, but it still will work the same. It will still accept you to tap it. You can still tap it. It's just over the weekend it's not gonNA be functioning the May, not function right now it's like a Uti. Thank you wally world is what I was going for more. It's closed for cleaning and repairs or Houston faction. In the meantime, we'll see you guys on zoomed. Bergen still do the game night stuff which has been really fun we want to thank everybody you can find out all that stuff we have a facebook group we did get a message from somebody they wanted us to give out as a public service announcement when you attend our game night or any zoom function than a hat or any zoom co when you change your name to something like hot NC couple remember on Monday morning you may have a business meeting and your name pops up as hot and see couple There may be some questions just a friendly reminder. Doing this for eighteen years, we've learned a lot and for Larne and myself we have this discussion. It is about the relationships that we have with with everyone that friendships you build the people that you meet just the ability to talk to people who are open minded and open hearted really because it's the H-, the hearts that mean the most it is a life changing community to get into and we value every friendship. We have every person we meet every couple we made You are some of the most amazing human beings. Caney. Right so Sorry. Okay. I'm GonNa Chew Gum because I think it's going to help me. It's going to help me concentrate I. Know I'm going row. Off Script. We value all of those friendships so much and we just wanted to say thank you if you need anything get in touch with us, you know where you can find us right here. We're here for you. We're just sitting around waiting for you to message of. Usually while I'm in the middle of Netflix movie and I'm like my talk. I'll answer you find what pause buttons therefore. So reach out. All right. So now I know that some of that was a little bit heavy dramatic. You might say, so I would like to lighten things up with a little story about sexual assault. Now. It's not about sexual. Saw It is actually about sex it does involve the sex, the s the coitus, but it involves the Nella. I'm not a huge fan of vanilla I mean exponential sacks just follow me here I like Vanilla but sometimes the. Doesn't know what the fuck it wants some time. The LILLA gets very, very confused and I have to explain things to vanilla that all the other flavors out there they have defined themselves but you for some reason are trying to use me to question your sexuality ice. Cream. Person Bonilla. So basically, what happened is we had a couple of people came in to people came in to visit us. At one of them specifically was your friends and this is one of those friends that people have. That are always like, Oh my God and have sex with your husband yet but they're vanilla and you're like very funny. Yeah. But I will stick it in you. So they know what we're into, but they keep everything separate but they still flirt and they still are interested a lot of flirting a lot of flirting a lot of teasing. Yeah and I feel like it's on the lifestyle side to be like just hit the brakes lady. Right. You I mean it's sort of comes down on us. Now that's a fine in August, but you hear it for you know a couple of years and it's a joke and it's funny until. Ice Cream cone gets very, very drunk. Put a little alcohol on that ice cream cone way more courage flom Bay this person is getting drunker and drunker by the second. Yeah. Getting more and more aggressive. We've not spoken to each other since this event happen how many times did I say? No, it's now my God, right but million. Yeah. I, answered for you. Anyway. Thank you like a million it's like nighttime. She's like come on let's all go to the poor me. I'm like. Well, it's nine o'clock at night. You can't go to the pool nine o'clock at night close it's closed not let's go to the pool when I say physically dragging me. Yes to the pool. Yes. I'm like I know this is location be. I. Get now, this is where our little vanilla ice cream cone wants to dirty things. I'm not doing this I'm not going swimming. There are rules in this neighborhood that we live in right pool is closed. It is late their neighbors long story short. We got there there's like seven people hanging out by the. Money I guess they don't have any rose here about the pool I guess you can use it twenty four hours a day do mind you I have been in our little residential pool counting last Summer Zero Times zero. Times I've been inside of that pool I've never really been there have walked past it and said, Oh there's a pool here and that's about as far as data they did know the rule practice the rules. Are the rules so when you come over here. I'll go to the pool the middle and yet. So she dragged me into the pool I mean dragged sort of being dry and she's an attractive attractive person that is in a bikini. Now she looks amazing a fucking became and I'm like this podcast is about meat trying to not have sex with people. So she takes me to the pool. We're sort of floating around there. It happens she grabs macaca. Short sign shorts on. Yeah. Because that's the community pool but that didn't last for a long time does he shoves her hand down into your pampers grandma on the outside I was on the outside, and then what happens to men is he gets it creates excitement blood rushes to that area and your member extends right you three sometimes five times the size. Not, in my case, but sometime, is that true what I learned in school I don't know I mean from cold if we're in the Arctic, you fully hard five times. I don't think that sounds very off. You know not really but it would be interesting to see three inches to eight inches and fifteen inches. Five Maybe three Tosa I'll have to do an experiment we should have did it in the last game? Yeah. We should have pre-measured premeasured women love average pianist game nights such a hit anyway very very quickly as you noticed my member comes out of my shoes soups. Right well, she can handle a hand job that's fine. Not having sex with her just soaking it right. I've I'm sort of letting her be junky monkey and just kind of I keep making eye contact with you like good luck and I'm like I'm being sexually assaulted right now and you don't care I just like maybe I'll take a picture, right? where the everything's fine and Dandy until what I thought is people would not be utilizing the pool at nine o'clock at night on a Wednesday or whatever enter from central casting the conservative middle aged Mexican lady in her one piece swimming suit and swimming cap. Decked out I'm like, Oh my God this woman is going to get in this pool and she's going to die of shock or she's GonNa run to security. I say stop stops there's a lady coming. We're fifteen against stop it. Well your friend that doing this to me isn't even aware she's on planet. Earth. Someone. Else just got in the pool it's not your own backyard. So what I do notice is said lady with the swimming costume on starts floating closer and more frequently I mean she made sixteen passes by she was getting your workout in richer. Yeah. By the time she made it like the ten th time I was just spread Eagle there watcher jerk me off like apparently she doesn't care. Turned to you and I was like, Hey, maybe we make this force. My. Girlfriend. No I'm. Not. Say. Anything. So we sort of that for a while and then I sort of thought that would be yes. She wants to go back to the house. She wants to take it further again I'm like I I don't WanNa. This is comfort I wanted I wanted I wanted. I. Have Not I don't think a drop of liquor in me. Yeah and I don't know will make it somehow because she stripped your clothes off she lived she kept stripping like there was no point where could not be I kept putting my clothes back on yeah and she kept taking them off. Yeah. So I needed to take care of your wedding suit. That's what happened just. Seem legitimate. It seems like a good idea. She just didn't have any clothes handy. So so we're on the you're still just watching all of this. And then there's this moment where I'm just like you get to a point where you're just like are you WanNa fuck them. Let's fuck. Yeah IRAS apprehensive at first. Did she say I WANNA? Watch you guys fat? Is that how it started out? That was the end okay. Does the but she I think i. Can't remember how she wound up on top me again here I am in a situation where someone's on top be it's very scary for me. Cock owed she still had her bottoms on. So I kinda thought it was safe and. It's not like she's wearing board shorts. It's shattered any belt. Slide that thing over when you're when you're wearing a bikini, right? You're sort of our said at that. Yeah. Yeah. Can't do that as a guy and zippers cause a whole different kind of problem. She slides her bikini over at I. Feel My COPCO inside of her and I'm like I. Have a moral dilemma here part of his like. Should. I or shouldn't I however I don't know if you know how a man works it's like when you put a dog near water and they just start paddling. Paddling even though they're just near the water, right? That's what your hips start doing as a guy. As. Soon as you feel that entrance you just. Thrusting your hips. So it's almost instead I. Had No other choice. So at first macaca Cock fell out and there was a moment where I was like. All right. Well, that'll be them, right? Yeah, and then she put it back in. Town. And she went to down sort of on the smaller side and I'm not very strong steps sort picks her up and I put her on the Ottoman and now in that you WanNa fuck let's faulk mode. Yeah. She still wanted to go on she wanted to watch us have sack now then she was like can you fuck her on top of me? So we did that and she she like that? Yeah but I was like that is the worst position I've ever been in my life not good for me too but I was I wanted her to do that. So funny. Dr Though. She was like I want you to fuck on top of me and we're like, all right. She's laying down I'm like straddling it was like I was doing sort of a split. It. Off to the side and you're just weren't really accessible and it was at the wrong high. That's the wrong. I other than what is scores because smaller than me literally nothing about it were. It was like that was the last page of the Kama Sutra Book. Apron there were like, no, that would just does not work I. Think we've hit all of them. Back not going to work. What that was. I was like, I, cannot fuck in that position. Guide would like live art. Art It was like. That was it for me. I physically left the scene of the crime. Here doing that they were you're burning up against you instead in front of fans she looks at me and. I still WANNA come sheets not really done a lot of woman on women's so I'm like, okay. Well, I'll start with fingers right because little less intimidating and so I'm like doing stuff and I'm doing my Yoni magic or what I think I'm doing I don't know if I'm doing it right but I think I am she's has noises or is are closed their open. She's like grabbing the cushions and staff and I'm like she's really enjoying this. I'm going to go down on her so I like creep down and I just start like easier out and then I do both and I'm doing fingers to and Ito, but she's impossible to come and because you can't feel anything in her body. She. So she's so hammered by the way I'm walking upstairs downstairs taking phone calls shifts. Like, I'm totally out. While you're doing this. You have that feeling of I know tomorrow morning, we are going to be fine. Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah. But while you're in the midst of it, I'm thinking I. Don't know if you're going to be five and you can ask them then and they're fine at the bogut and they're very convincing and this was hours. It's not like it was like she was fine with it for hours and I just after you flirt with song for that long it's like listen you ut's tiger this long. Did you just call me Lt Gree? You're my tiger king to some all this up. Oh God my hurt the next day Lo and behold our little vanilla ice cream cone melts doubts sorry guilt, fuck? Yeah. I knew it. Yeah and that makes me feel like crap to that is why vanilla is not my favorite flavor an ice cream it's it's a tough road to rocky road you could say. Drought that might be too. About the time ago. Ice Cream. All right Laren Kyrie are. WE'RE BACK It is another day. It looks like the other ones. My friend told me you friends live aid friend. She told me that Uranus into the orbit Mina says a law. Such a crap joke astrology and the planet Uranus I don't know what that means. I don't know what it means when a planet and hers or. I'm not really a big astrology guy I just sort of look up there and I feel pretty creative myself but I still can't make shapes out of whatever constellation I'm looking at I mean Orion. That's a stretch. Yeah. Earth three lines that's a belt and a sword. Yeah, you go. Okay. You're on a lot of mushrooms I think. I can find the PAN that big pan in the little. dipper yeah. What a dipper is renamed it to Pan Pan So uranus means change Richard that's what it means. Well, we got that yeah we do got some change, but first before we start just so I get our listener in the mood. Take me away to be rudd infringement. Yes. So we got a really cool invitation. Yeah. We did because Burke fads saying go. There were like, Hey, what's up Lauren and Richard Relied Yo? What's up? Who is this? Yeah it's some person that has a really big yacht. Yeah, and this is what we WANNA. Do we want to take you to Florida and we WANNA take a picture of you guys and by the way can you bring be? So we had this opportunity where I think in September supposed to go to Florida and get on a boat and just. Maybe with our out maybe it's possible. It's like one hundred foot. You're late. They wanted us to be a part of it, which is awesome. The thing has a crew and you know that I will be in the cockpit with the captain. Most of the time totally pressing can I promise this I? Don't know if you have to blow him. I'll do it. You will do it I know. I guess there's a chef I don't know I mate I'm just. Skipper this is going to go out of the Bahamas. Florida or something like that I even know where the Bahamas are. It doesn't matter just what I heard I heard Bahamas. Bermuda. Another legal entanglement. So really when this thing starts October first is that when it starts yeah you can start booking. That's why we're going to go September and takes pictures going to put this shit up. You can October it's going to be salen. Stop we're going to get sued. So this is when it starts. You call that same guy who called us yes you're like, Hey, man, you're like, Hey, room seventy seven told me to call you and if you say that then you get a free case of both flacco, how do you say move? Well, the fancy people's is calling who've live cliquot not live Oh what is it? The move yeah. I just GonNa pour it all over me. It's great right now because they're smaller groups and people are afraid. Let's come back to me on a boat the wind going through what's left of my hair I just watched that movie, Greyhound Yeah. I'm just saying if we get attacked by German subs, I'm prepared right meanwhile, I am going to buy a little white captain's hat. We'll you get a sweater anti it around your neck Ralph Lauren fucking chorus I'm doing like a blue navy blazer with gold button pipe. If you have any questions about that goto luxury lifestyle charters, dot com they have more information that pretty pictures and they'll be even prettier come after trip also just end on this note if anybody knows how to get a vaccine United States either illegally or legally let us know quickly. Yes. The rapid visa process right now, we have one plan which is to put her in are carrying. All right that's going to tie some things up here at the end I just WanNa. Tell you you brought up. Godzilla Godzilla is a little Guana that has started living in our backyard mainly because I feed him great twice a day. But I can't seem to get him to come over to me. I had these hopes you tell me if there were too high. Take. because. We haven't had a dog. We've spent a lot of time outside of the House and we just didn't feel like we had enough dog. My dream was to get a little tiny least for Godzilla and I walk him around but he won't. He won't really come near me. He's a wild animal that's why he's a reptile well, whatever. I just feel like he did it again today and China Mosey on over to them like this song. As you will but he thinks that I want to eat in which in his little mind. Wants to. Come, over and see God Zillah. Consider how do I think he's out there I can see what are you addicted to this month I? Dictate to a flashback item that I used to wear as a child. There were these jelly sandals and I got a grownup hair Jelly Sando with a clear he'll and they speak we so have. I almost similar to you because of all the stress and everything that's been happening this month I am addicted to crack cocaine. Friday enough. Yeah. I wouldn't recommend it to anybody. It has horrible side effects. You only feel good for one second and then you get completely depressed you become gaunt your teeth fall out in it kind of ruined your life right but it just feels right for right now not that I'm telling you I'm saying you shouldn't do it. I'm just saying because we talk about things they were addicted to every month this month crack. Okay. Sorry. Sorry find out this way by the way. Tell them about the Keeney addiction speaking of addiction. We support our fellow podcast listeners over Bikini addiction dot com, and if you want to support US head on over there, use Promo Code Room seventy seven for an extra ten percent off or if you want a free one book through US, five nights or more, and we will send you a code in our welcome email that you can use on their site for a free one who A. Lot on instagram and you can stare at her. Thanks they're not cut that way that you don't get camel toe with them now but sometimes, I make you say camel. Talk be very sexy. Feed. Do Right Hamilton in a bikini sexy tone jeans not so much still. Hey. Leave is giving you a sweet camel toe. Last but not least why don't we put the? Patriots. Last they should be the most important. They should actually go in the front nine. But they're not the least we want to thank our patriots, the people who support us over at. Patriotair Dot Com for classroom seventy seven. Thank you all so much. We have more names that we want to announce. We finally made enough I was able to buy a room for the Tesla. So now. I just let that go in there and. Thank God Lauren, who are the people who sent donations especial. Thanks to Dave and e newest tags mark and Fran, and we have fiery couple Borsa Natasha Karleena Tonio Mr Fund Forty Christian Todd Blanton Tony Sophia Brandon. Mallory. Casual Swinger are naughty escapades klbj eight. Oh two marcy rich and Christie Neil t.f belly rubs. Than Cats Nasr couple Mardian Suzy Rod gazillion. Angela Aries Rachel and Chris from. MEALEA Scott. Andy. 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56. The Two of Us with Musa Okwonga

The Two Of Us

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56. The Two of Us with Musa Okwonga

"You rebels radio presents the two of US shorts with neo me Watterson. Albert, Frederick. High this is naming lattice. Welcome to the US Charts Myself Alba Frederick he's talking to people across the globe about that pandemic experience. On its relationship to creativity, mental health emotional wellbeing. And as always I'd like to trigger warning. These adult shows of the themes will be complex and interesting, and maybe it sometimes be triggering. If you're over ten the disposition today, put this on pause and put market for later saw otherwise dime, right. Today I'm interviewing. My did their Mussa Conga. Who is a broadcaster, writer and musician? Only you said occasional musician on my question that because the reason I questioned that, but don T end. is about creativity and this idea that you have to. Get up everyday to paint a bear painter guess up every day to be a writer and I'm. Behalf fluctuations in our lives for a million reasons, so, does that mean be kind of define ourselves? If we're not doing everyday Bikaner, find ourselves as that. We haven't got a huge. Online following, we made lots of money. So that's why questioned. Let you said occasional while you went straight in love. No good. No, we said we would. Do you know what it is? It's because I have so much respectful. The process on the Croft. That when I see, you're right when I see myself. Making stuff now then is as a part time amateur thing because each time I make music I'm deeply commited I'm. It's weird. I'm I'm passionate about music in a way I. Don't fully express a lot of friends. Like. It's not even my twitter bio. Talk about very much. What I make music I'm deeply passionate about sound about craft. The reason like you love making music is because there's some things you can say with that. You can't see any other way. There's a way that music enters you. Dot that nothing else does and I love having the options putting out some music pretty soon because there's a song I wrote and I'm like well right with Chris so I worked with this project. Kubiak so. I, wanted to talk about the fact that there's so much Prussia. You mentioned the pressure to produce this pressure to produce. There's also pressure society to be positive and be well and be fixed and be better. Know me how you doing you better, you better. Everyone's always you'd better. There's always the sense of like okay like people. Other people get tired. Of Your tiredness and I wanted to do a song which is basically about. It's okay to feel broken. Songs is sabotage spacey about. Always talk about self help actually if I can't help myself. What if I actually destroy myself because I? I've learned. The Bat so many bad things happen that I've been given no cause for optimism. I wanted to do some for those people. Because if think that's quite related, but I think a lot of people will be yeah. I have self-destructive cycles. Yeah, I have like bad patterns of like. Self Management I was like. Yeah, this is for you and. That's not the kind of. You know because of the way. Make Music. It's not the I. would be chatting albums. Every China would be producing albums every year. Every now and again is like I can only say that this song I can only say that particular thing. With eight of music. So yeah. Some sometimes. Not Sometimes, not occasional like you're right. I'm I started correct. You correct me even before. I arrived on the on this conversation's post. Funny, but yeah. I hope you don't feel corrected in an awful way I. No this is no holds barred like you're welcome to ask anything. That's fine. Too Because I am so interested in what you say about self sabotage, and even defining himself as an occasional musician. Is You got so sabotage, but but then. Like you say. Do we want to self sabotage? Ourselves sabotage. You know you can feel crappy by yourself. You One cam. And we can actually call lay, and then we can give ourselves a half time about giving ourselves a time. You know that like the addictive loop synthetic, and that was the liberation from it. The whole thing is about that it's about. Out She, just let it be. It's okay to feel. It's like. These are the things that happened to these things you may have done. The mistakes made. Those mistakes may have arisen from being undermined so often that you made more, and it's okay to still are part of healing. The beginning of heating is dislike. To try to be ashamed of your mistakes to just to try not to be in, it's not even there's not even any pressure to get better this dislike. Knowledge this. Knowledge that yeah, this is the thing didn't go right. But don't be ashamed of it like or trying to be ashamed of it Yet try not to to say this is so i. Am and maybe carry on doing after this after hearing this whatever? People talking to you maybe that you know what? It's okay to acknowledge that, too. But. I would say if anything just acknowledge if you can. But there is a pattern i. think that's the helpful thing because I've spoken to people before going through staff. I've been myself. And the hardest thing the beginning is that. Something has going on. A There is a there is a dynamic, because sometimes it also one thing I say one really keeping I stress in song is. Look people talk about like self sabotage being exhausting that it relates how exhausted positivity can be in familiar his. It's like a muscle you've never used. Says suddenly woke. You haven't walked in ten years. It's like telling someone be competent. Be Positive. You're like what I've never done it. There's no precedent for it. There's no. There's no precedent is actually so much more precedent so much more logical to sabotage because that's all I know and I'm really good at it. So it's honoring people's pain. On People's processes of crating will pay. Dot To. Me feels really important, and that's why it was harder to say that. In text on! It wasn't music for some reason. I think because I found Catharsis in in writing. If that makes sense doesn't make a lot of sense and I think. There's something about releasing something. Comes an entire thing given. To the walls to a an audience. It comes. From Yourself, two hours can also say because I see told. I'm thinking about. Big Things Accountability. And a shame. and. Forgiveness on those already huge moment and this thing hand and. I wouldn't be doing this conversation justice if we didn't talk about the your black man I'm a white woman, and those words have a different resonance for us entirely because of our unique personal and political experiences. And how to level those and. It's let the Hughes topics, and that's why think say music or cultural artifacts Useful story. So they don't. It doesn't become an abstract conversation. It becomes embodied rail. I'm personal like you say. So many things have happened. The tendency to self sabotage gets greater. Am I wonder how much self sabotage? is about making meaning out of chaos. Yeah, it's because then you have If you self-harm. Maybe Mark Yourself you've. You've gained some level of control. Some measure of that I was talking to someone in an abusive relationship. She emerged from it copies ago and she's thinks so much better. Announce shot up to her. She said the even when she was in it and she knew it was happening, she was like. I have this under control like a sense of because I'm in it and I know it's abusive and I know that from the outside. It looks like a complete mess. It is a mess by. I've found myself within it and is really. You know we're talking now in a time where? You might say it's particular type and I think it is I think in our modern era. This is a particular time. and. Desire to locate ourselves find ourselves can be self destructive. But that's an identity like the. The desire to anchor ourselves in something. which is sometimes you know, start to. The song mentions also as we mentioned. I mean it's funny. We should talk today because. I was having quite difficult moment reflecting on black lives matter. Walk into the street a couple of days ago. Published an essay about this the Times. In which I discussed the fact that the Labor Party leader Secure Storm has basic come out and said the black lives matters a moment, not movement I describe what that meant to me I'm like you know that's funny because. she argument conclusion as he did me a real favor. He that me real favor kissed Donald because he basically revealed to me. The con of Exhaust Peration by will never see which is millions of dinner tables, middle class than tables throughout Europe. Why people just looking at the newspapers going for God's sake for God's sake just over, and he what he did was so powerful because he saved me months possibly years of trying to appeal to a better self. People don't care. With dark skinned black people, and a certain percentage of this planet does not to give a shit. They don't care. They couldn't care less that we're drowning thousands that were confined to these places. They couldn't care less the only interaction they've ever happened. The black person capacity of monstrous serving someone serving them at ticket office of someone what giving the plate or whatever? They don't have any problem with that. The actively have no problem with that all in some cases. In a significant minority of cases, they actively encouraged that. Kissed Obama did a surreal favor? Sorry. That's soundtrack. The soundtrack has the background disheartens. wrote the article and I was thinking. Yeah we don't matter like black lives matter to you. You're kneeling. bought. A certain amount of black votes matter. You. Don't care you. Don't care about how we feel. And it was so weird walking past these families couples, she's thinking. I'm going home to think about that black people. You're out here now and you've got worries. I'm not saying they don't how people in their lives. You're going through some things, but worry because I'm a human being. And this extra thing, which is basically like I'm going home to think about that black people. And I'll be doing that for the rest of my life, and my skin is dark and I look at my skin. I think how people there's a Danish man who was tortured to death just recently. And a friend of mine was attacked a House party. By White, friends of hers physically attacked another friend of mine. She was attacked. In a job interview at for Dream Job, she received racism towards the end, which meant she can take the job, because I called welcome place, Donald. She's thinking old. The lives of the black lives of mine are no the interrupted by racism or ended. And my black friends saintly, what would allies be like without racism? I say look on facebook. Look at your white friends at school with in the same class. That's where allies appeal just as smart as them look. How happy lives are. They going through shit, too yeah to get me wrong, but as a whole thing, I've got to think about the fact that it's rather cold for an older black woman to die happy. Radical! And if you tell a white person is radical that your grandparents died happy, they'd look you like what the hell he talked about me. So, what do you mean it's radical? An I realized this near me. Sorry to go on about this by realized. A few months ago, I realized I read is again. This week. I am black for life. I going to be a dark, skinned black man for life forever. I have to deal with until I die. I'll be reading about black murder black the torture. Until, I'm dead. We're not going to solve this and I said to my friend be happy new lifetime. Whatever can be happy because we're not going to solve this. Does never going to be a month. It's never going to be here. I'm in a lot of pain at the moment to be honest. I'm lot of pain. And it affects everything effects like. Effects dating it affects all of that affects the fact that like I mean like just twice in the last month. I've heard people from different sources saying. Bring home. Who Have you like as long as it's not black man? How am I supposed to feel? Like okay, yeah, people can be like Oh. Yeah, but who wants today to racist. Anyway, that's not the point the plus not the fucking point the point is. The entire sections segments of this life are close to you close to me as dark skinned black person, just because of this body inhabit this arbitrary skim the I inhabit. Our entire worlds are close to me. I came back from a weekend in East Germany. A fifteen minutes in Leipzig. and. Hot and fifty meters in the front door. One of my best friends lives family of Nazis who are against the mixing of blood the actual. Hard fifty meters two hundred meters away from the front door. They're against the mixing of races. The racial mixing they live two hundred meters place spent entire weekend with a lovely lovely family. That's my reality near me. At obt fucking die. But breaks my heart to be honest well. It can't break your you're. Thinking as you say the underside, thank you for sharing it. 'cause it's farmable and painful and true. And then. And that wack about the horrifying moment at. Hopeful so hey. Now you so just south. Up this is not the favor that's. That's how shitty the favor is. That the devil reveals himself. That's how shitty favor is is that you knew that anyway? I knew that anyway, it just gets revealed. It doesn't change the system and I'm thinking about how we started this talking about. Sabotage online I'm thinking. About, how the sabotages internalized with that much oppression like you go home, and you see the absolute comfort I'm luxury and it's the line actually in. The Great Gatsby which is often quoted about and daisy and their wealth and retreating into the vast Keller Smith's. Yeah Line. Describes this describes. White supremacy on whiteness ill at why as fast carelessness! And how? You start talking about. This idea of sabotage. When I'm wandering. It's not sabotage. Is it just a trauma response? It's both can be both I think. Yes a trauma response, but then it cuts you off from happiness. That might be out there. So each experience you have this prohibitive makes afraid to try new things and to be honest. One the reason putting this song out. is a triumphant itself. Whatever happens I? Mean whoever listens to it. Frankly and I know the people listened to. It will have different types written. Those putting out of different heights, but really for me it's a form of self actualization, and I'm honest with you I just WANNA put out. This I won't use it to live in the world because. You know there's many things I was told I couldn't do as many things. I was told that. Wouldn't exist in the world so I'm just I just finished a memoir about? I'm finishing writing about private school. Someone said to me, why didn't you? Why didn't you put that book out? And China set it to like big publishers and get bidding war started. A simple there are two things I the my story to tell. Sabas scared if I sold it to the wrong publisher, they want me to name all these names, and it'd be like a tabloid type thing, and that's not the because derive. The other thing is the to be honest with you. I hadn't sold a book for eighteen months before that I'd written a big sci-fi Novel Avenue, said No, I've written a new memoir about Berlin. Evidence, said No. I spent eighteen months trying to sell. Something quite broke. It was quite difficult to get anywhere and. Then started a music things difficult with that and to be honest with you. I felt like a failure. On how to get something out, I had to put something out so. Putting out this music and putting out this book. Is just a way of affirming myself. And it was weird because as an artist. You know a lot of people. I'll be honest with you is not I'm not ashamed to say this is the truth is what it is I came to Berlin six years ago to kind of disappear. I literally thought I was done I thought like you're just going to end up. Toiling in Obscurity Writing away quietly. You write a little bit about football. A little bit politics maybe meet someone I sit with him by the Lake Fall in love and. An RB good with that. Because that's good for most people, it's not good for most artists because desires to reach people with a range of things. But I was good with that. Like, and that was a form of arguments, a former self sabotage coming to Berlin like instead of going to the US to build my curriculum. I didn't give a shit. I'm not was a response to trauma because I was so used to being. To this, too. That black or to queer or to wear to outspoken to partial to whatever I was so sick of Olivet. I came to into disappear. People like Oh. Why did you go to country like that with these things on us up well, because actually. The prejudice here is honest. You can see who likes and who doesn't like you. Right you can quickly filter. Those things are in a way. You can't do in the UK. I'll just come here. Make my friends make a little money. And disappear. I was good with that. I'm one to actually if I do get the discipline I'll be good with that, too. Of course become more visible than she planned, but. Yeah. But. I think the difference between. Being able to maneuver through life banded knowledge, but you don't have to account for yourself. You're not scrutinized so pretty. Helps that thing about. The. Disappearing is not disappearing. Just let escaping from the scrutiny and judgment. Your friend of mine, said this recently very good friend of mine. What's The music industry? A white guy and he said. Yeah I kind of feel guilty because I can kind of dislike. Shut this stuff off Arken Scott Day. No one pays me the slightest attention. So I can care about these issues, but I got my life, and it's just not under the kind of. Go under the radar. And that was actually a frame that he used. He used the word the framing disappearing because I. Think in this political moment where? People who are despised are so visible. He sees as he says because I. Think the hyper visibility of like black people. makes him feel invisible. In a good way like, and he actually said that specifically I've never heard of white passes, because that which speaks the time we're in. There was a moment I had the other day. I was at the train station going to do some shopping and I saw a billboard. On the billboard was an image of. Black, people being rescued from the sea. Being rescued from the sea, and there was a photo, and these images of I had an issue with them, but these images that. have been using so it's OK. They've been using stuff themselves. At the image was basic like two boatloads of Dark skinned African people escaping course of Iranian. Try to make a better life. And they will all the same thing cutters me just the stock is me like really dark skinned me. And I was thinking. By accident of a passport I could do. I could be you. Separates us in the street. Is My. My possible, my education, my possible really. and. That is so confronting the harrowing to see that reality no that. It's just happy accident. With subject to some of the same racial pressures of course, but ultimately. Doesn't extent which I can disappear. You know I can go into a building and be okay I can go into a place and be okay. So you have to thinking a law and it was, it was a painful day to reflect on this I to say. Because I wonder how much progress making sometimes. I wonder. How. How do you know us? What harrowing on now we use them? Disappearance Harrowing Trauma these big whereas you know. I talked to you I. Don't talk to a lot, but by my talk with feel a sense of connection over seekers, friends and my conversations. Very much have different themes. Sometimes, there's very intellectual sometimes. They're funny and playful and irreverent. And today's conversation bills. Sad. It. Is Sad. It builds something is. Wrong to vilify because I think. It's sad. I don't mean like owed. Solidifies I mean it's deeply side. The way of that side must. To navigate your way through the world, you see this picture. Of refugees fleeing trying to find a safe place. And then on, you say well I can go into a building I can do this I have relative freedoms. Internally, what's happening there? You know what's happening. How does one? Manage that unlike think. What I've been. Thinking about as about what the social self reflective wideness 'cause I know with. My wife was a my class because I middle class. Obviously. Highly educated, but people believe I am I can sometimes spill the ease with which navigate through the world light. Your your friend was talking about because I'm a woman anonymous show woman, a middle aged middle class, white woman that I'm not perceived as a threat. So one sense I can glide through almost invisibly. Paula the same time see affirmations of my whiteness couch wide. Yeah Yeah, so I must be your. You know so I. See this affirmation of myself, so I never have to account for myself and are other things overstay. I feel difference about around. Say Disability, gender but my whiteness. is almost an even invisible to me. While size affirmed everywhere. Know. And I was thinking about lot this podcast, uninvite. What can I do? What can I do? What am I doing? Am I thought. I've never talks about in any of my writing. Not even with my photography self portrait photography might look to gender an illness I've never examined. My Whiteness has been no self reflective lioness because it's been so compelling. It's almost like it hasn't existed. I'm that so different to recognize that on that experienced when you're talking about. The pain you fail and we had this conversation the other day. You know you see that image and. It keeps on hurting and you have to find a way to navigate through your life with that pain. And what I can do, I can be horrified. But also inmate I can retreat into. My voss callousness, which wideness affords me, you know it's not me. I'm safe. But I'm not I'm not I'm not the bad white person, because I'm a white liberal, so I can feel good and safe at the same time. So why have an a retreat of Whiteness affords me a retreat within myself? Yeah this gratefulness I. Mean I think that's a human. I think all humans can relate to. Gratefulness it's something is not some level they can. They can relate to it like. I'm glad that don't live there because they didn't have the best health care. But those things that you can change by moving place potentially. I mean. and actually I suppose you can look at it from misogyny like. You could. They spins black. Women have and I think the thing that's really bad for kissed Alma. And this is always the early warning. Simon Black Women. Overwhelmingly! Say Your number's up. Is a matter of time till the rest of the world catches up like black women onto trump like because blocked by the intersections of race and gender bend normally the first o'clock news because of the most affected by it. So to see black women on twitter coming out even his own party going. About Doing Butler Zych. It's not black matters more than a Hashtag or or moment to see that happen. Because black women are the first encounter that. Light. That's really I. Don't think he audit kissed onto understands what he's done without one. Two minute segment auto the understands the generational damage is done. He'll be the always the guy that said that he will always be the guy that set the modern equivalent of modern king or all Muhammad Ali. He will always be the guy that said. This is just a moment our movement. which actually even Boris Johnson hasn't gone far enough to say you haven't had that Boris. Johnson like kissed all went further in his contempt. Don Don the Tory party leader. And what's really weird about being in this time? How you carry that pay no me is. The answer is I. Don't know. I don't know how I carry it I. Don't know how I do I do. I don't know how remain functional like I. Make Decisions. I think my greatest achievement. Model Life. Is Not responding with understandable desperation to the terrible things I see an experience. I don't know high of managed to remain. Without a substance abuse problem, I don't know how I have not substantially self harmed or have never done it. And if I had done, it would have been logical, they would have been absolutely dodger call to self harm or indulge in non as the behavior that would have been. That would have been a a logical response as all these thoughts come about substance abuse in different minority groups. Yeah, because life is difficult to look at in the mirror. I have always life in the mirror for twentieth straight I've looked at life and. I don't know how how how overwhelming sometimes. All the rejections military rejections which. And this is the good news coming to actually My life basically changed. My life changed in. One hour a week ago at the time since we spoke because in that one hour. Office came in for different projects. Like really exciting projects that I've been trying to get done for a I've given up on. On a good friend someone in seeing a few years ago, it was still mates, and she got in touch when we're talking about it and she said. What happened Mesa. Did you change your attitude? What happened, did you Selena said no, I didn't and she said. The, maybe the world just got wise. Maybe the world just got wise. So, that changed to me like that was really amazing thing, and that's a new world. Be Into. My life has changed now. As well. These things onerous. It's the launch ramps still because they're not signed, but the office of come in and we've accepted But. That was big for me. Because it was like. A step towards more safety. A step towards more safety. In hostile world where to be honest, even though I might feel safe initially to certain extent. A Walk down the wrong street and I'm not safe anymore. So living in this precarious body, and it's funny OUGHTA phone. Call just before you spoke just called me. For this school for touch the school. Out of chocolate seven. Oh, you'll friend Mussa. Is He missed them? On my friend was like no, I don't think he's never awesome about it, but I'm pretty sure his family was Christian. Strange because. He has them as first name and everyone looks that name will be like that's the Muslim. On the that actually I've probably been processed as a black Muslim. FOR MY ENTIRE LIFE! For my and I didn't even I was like probably received Islamophobia. And I don't even know on it. Knowledge thing I've experienced. That's wild, isn't it? No, that's a whole other thing. I've been processed as. My name is literally Muslim and it's not even not communism name like it's like it's a Muslim. It's the most such as the name that even when Muslims that. It's a very Muslim name like a very like. You were given that name for a reason. That was wild, not just. Literally as we speak as I never thought about that. Wild. That to. That, too. Up It's like. I don't even know what to say to that really. Is that too, but. Okay, I'm GonNa ask you a very personal question. Maybe. Not even that personal going door. Well I'm thinking about I was thinking about sex of sleigh. About my relationship to sex. Over the years on how? where I need to get validation from sex. America and as A. A Post menopausal woman relationship to sex now. You're back. My my attractiveness, my identity also round up together your and how I then I thought. I knew in nominee. Flinch benching from parts of yourself. You don't want to say. I've been watching I may destroy you. They know that the Michaela are taught to see that I'm I'm looking forward to it. It's incredible, but. This is lacquered. A. Reveals a little of the plot. But her depiction of. Of white mass an ignorant why this is great? And there's this one. Woman Who's seeps on the characters, a black man one night stemmed, but she says. What's your time what you'll type? And this is. To I love that guys I love that guys. And you know obviously exotic sizing the blackmail. I've I thought about some Mayo God? Is it me? And, I thought how much have I tried to, and it's not like haven't had relationships with Batman. Who I've loved deeply in of May. It's not about bath, but it's not. How much of me feeling that. My own sexual identity is somehow. Not Good enough that I'm not sexy enough in the I mean I'm not gorgeous. Enough and not womanly mouth is a whole thing, and how much of that and my past look at is. Having relationships with black men because I feel that being validated. How much I'm I haven't answered that question. How much is that? What's going on? You know I had to ask what how much is that come? I look about my justin the aside because it's too ugly, look out. United's from. A saw a situation where. A friend told me. The summit I'd been seeing. Bassi was like objective. Buying me. Racially. Like so I mean it was yeah. Don't get me wrong like you've you've done the kind of? On a vast me a personal question, I'll give you a pass launch like it doesn't get person that someone you've been seeing. Who has objectified you sexually? I doesn't want you to find out about. Unlike Paul the big attraction. Of You, dating them is that you are? Your your big Black Guy, your big black guy and you're sexually. That dot was can attract. That was so painful I called a friend, and I said. This is how deep it goes. This deep intimacy like even. Like racism gets. It's like cholera gets everywhere. It gets absolutely everywhere. It gets into the cells. It is bone deep. It's OPS slows deeper than that it's. People say the same color on the surface. No, wouldn't. It was comedy? No, not without us. Income underneath were not. It goes to is actually took goes the cellular level. People do not want the mixing blood. Duck were not the same color underneath. That is nonsense is so much worse than that and. For me the challenges. You have to process. Because you know I could be nihilistic. Sleep around and someone said to me the day there was saying just. You know who I take dated like several races, White women before white guys, black guys, whatever data like a range of people. One person said to me like. Why did you date someone said to me? Why did you date white women when you have these experiences well updated a range of people like. I don't signed in Germany so actually. Most people white here so you know. But I have to self respect not to a base myself by seeking sexual comfort in the arms of people who object to find me that makes law lonely, because if you're self respecting dark, skinned black guy. You won't have that many partners. Because you'll have filtered out. The ones who are just seeing was frankly a dick for that checklist, and you will be a Dick on a checklist for lot of people. You'll be surprised by. There'll be a lot of people. Like actually here's an example I was since we're being completely candid. I got a message on. A dating site from someone who wanted to date me. To find out. What to find out because I I'd seen someone I dated someone who she knew and she was like. I want to date you to see if yours interesting. I saw this this other woman? Willing to say you are. If you're as. Interesting Interesting I. WanNa saw him and she was so she felt entitled to say that. She felt so comfortable writing to me the level of racism it takes spouse talk different about this, and I said Discard this experience and she said. They never said that to why woman. She'd never said that till took to a white man. Sorry, she never had a white man that she would not dare talk to a white German man like that. But a dark skinned black guy. It's completely on limits. It's completely acceptable. So yeah I do. I do worry about how people see me unprocessed me as life goes on. And it's weird because I have people talking to me like family members all. Yeah, like meet this person that person I said yeah like. I've been single for long time and I'm like someone who's always been quite let dated anyway, so that's that's not been easy. I mostly like. As negative as it sounds. I protect myself a lot from people I thought. I myself those fetish ICES. How to really good friend that called me up and she was like. I've only been sleep with us. You know with guys like black guys recently. This is different and I'm like we just have to examine ourselves. Old Times. Do I have biases. Do I have racial biases myself you know I see block date White Guy. What women a lot? And they just day to day, or they like chasing validation. Because, it's more allegations dating a white woman. Is that what they're doing? I ever done that. I've always been in love with people I've dated yes. How about that I myself love? Because of racial bias I don't know I hope not I. Don't think so. The greatest love my life. Still. My girlfriend at UNI. Western heritage. And I haven't met anyone really. SORTA subsequent partners. For modest, no honest. There's no one of really loved that since. But have I become more frayed my adult life in this world I'm in. Our the no like of intimacy. Generally no I might have done. Maybe, I am now what I'm thinking about. Sex intimacy validation. And how? You can love somebody, but can still be validation. Caught up within it. Do know what I mean. We can never underestimate the power codependence interpersonal relationships, but I'm also thinking about sex itself. Whether it's in the long term. Relationship will casually. And the reason it's complex was we're talking about pain before? sex can be. Obviously pleasurable hustle. Connection and also has a release, but at what points. The sexual intimacy perhaps is what you're talking about. Become self sabotage. And Slot. Slight Sims. A A double edged. Thank you because you want to protect yourself against being fetish is. But also does that mean that your disappearance means a disappearance intimacy as well and you're the does it does. It does mean the does mean that? It definitely means that. I just think of all the things I've been told people. Go All your complain about this too much, but like now it's why I lived at like. How can you date someone on the first date? They're like Oh. My God of my parents team block. They'd be horrified. How is that? What Universe is comfortable enough to save up to someone so casually like. How is? Is So monumentally. fucked. And I want my part of that. To be true to yourself this the truth to be true to if I was more of a Dick. I'd have a better life. Whatever happy life, if I was actually more of an also if I just took. What was offered in kind of like a kind of? Cruel transactional way. Not. A IF IF I. was like yeah I'm being fetish is, but fuck it. Yeah, like whatever but fuck if I was dot. Talk of Dude. I'd actually be more attractive. There was a situation a few months ago. Well a mattress on one of these dating sites. Frenchwoman like very attractive, we're talking. Eventually unmatched me because I wasn't sexually aggressive enough. Because she wanted she'd come to like She'd come about in. On staff a few days, and she wanted to be used, and she wanted to be used by black man who would disrespect to us as you want me to go round basically and just do what happened. I said look, we've not even had a drink we've not. She wanted a very specific type of black guy. It was takeout. Caught. Explain how degrading that vote. Because you match with somebody like all. This poses interested in me whatever she didn't. Why did you match them? Because I looked like someone who would degrade her? I was like Oh. Yeah, he's. He's dark skinned enough. He'll get that one and all candy this to me and then the fuck man leave. That's what she wanted from me. People joke, HA, ha! Knows disgusting and I talked. About this. They sound surprised that like. Why wouldn't you want to? See You. Don't get it. I don't like feeling. Like fifty dot so disgusting on degrading and horrifying horrific like. I'll never get over that. I'll never forget how that feels. The power dynamics lab. It's disgusting. It's disgusting 'cause. It's like I. Want You? I'm choosing you to the right. May I want you to live a stereotype, but is going to really emotionally harm you. I'm going to walk away with my satisfaction OCTA was playing the game playing this narrative, which ultimately affirms Hawaii power so wholly and completely. Its so colonial. So colonial and I don't know how we get free of it I have friends who are like I'm never dating a white person again. They've had such horrifying experiences like experience. They poured love and care to our only for the past data to turn around. And have a racist family. Or to endorse far right politics, these people they've loved. This is not like they've suddenly woken up and go. Oh, we! We don't do as a matter of self care and sexual intimacy and physical intimacy emergency. I just can't date white people. This is this is what people have said to me like. That's not my. And actually fuck it would if it was like the point is these people like from their experiences that have been so traumatic like I gave my gave years of my life to these people. On the sexual gratification, you know what's really painful. No me is like obviously by being a mostly white city still and Germany as well as white country. Is really sad because I think to myself generation below. Twenty twenty five Amazon. That's not my day. It's not. I'm not creep. Thought Generation of people. That going to be okay. I see like inter-racial relationships in their age group and the side thing is. It feels too late for someone like me actually. which is weird into each of forty, but it feels about Nathan. It feels like. I'm fighting for life for those people. But I noticed inside things like even like dating sites, and I've got. Might this conversation to be offset to saying this? A that dating APPs because. People aren't that interested like. I have friends who is massive age bracket like. They go in these sites and make it so many more dating opportunities than I get. As a matter of course like one friend of mine was single for few months synchronize. Friend of mine has loaded dates. It's how about you. How's dating going? I'm like. US No one's really interested. In this weird position of being like hypoth- visible as a writer respected, my work is getting out there, but. Sexually Terms of intimacy emotionally. I'm just. People aren't interested. Civic Tool Salah about sex and the. Problematic thing, abundant intimacy and Enjoy within the body, but how? Navigating that. Means that you will be fetish is and. It can. Be Unsafe. So from and my a leap, are you ready? Because every time I interviewed people I come up with a question on last to respond to him. No question, a word I'm lying would. You'll this. multi-diverse. The reason I chose that few I didn't think I wind going. GonNa. Pose this question. And that you said earlier about what was it be like? For Black people not to experience racism slap, we'll look at facebook. Look at all social media postings look up. What people luxury editing and life of being scrutinized for their whiteness. So endless multi. WHAT POWER LOUD UNIVERSITIES! Possibly exist being unlike him. Be More than one. Now, because literally opening line of my acid, I literally filed. This morning, and which was published twenty minutes before the Zoom Co started the opening line was recently been Canadian. Litter the opening lot of that essay. I think about this all the time. Do you know I'd be if I was in a different universe. I'd be. Walking with my partner. It'd be a hilltop in Lisbon. This is quite emotional, quite sad about this. Because I'm scared I might get there. It would be a week night evening. Walk with my partner in Lisbon on a hilltop. Just before sunset as sitting on a bench, and there'd be enough wind kind of lot, not kind of wind where it's like. It's a breeze that like it's not a warm breezes, a cool breeze to offset the WOM- day. It's a humid breeze. It's like a dry heat. A cool breeze. I just sit on a bench and look out over the water I is sits. I'm to be untroubled. DOTS fucking one. All of this can go to hell. Oil Can go to shit. That's why fucking one. In a multi Nepal universe. Avalon just leaves me the fuck alone. have to comment on how to be eloquent. I don't have to be an ambassador to represent. Everyone just leaves me the fuck alone. And it's a partner. I've been with full. Those partners when you're with somebody, look at them at Dinner Party and you look at them and both know you're laughing the same thing. You understand each other. And I'm afraid I'm not gonNA get fat because. The so much else. In my life, there's so much being seen in a so much commenting innocent, much fucking responsibility. To get stuff, right and some say they're sponsored human, but others will say actually. You're in a position where you can save on. You need to speak you to comment on this and. Someone said well. You haven't got kids, so actually have direct responsibility. And you just pulled in different directions. And my ideal multi-diverse. It's funny because I. Watched Captain America Movie. Well. I watched The avengers movie end game. At at the very end captain, America basic goes off and has like a life with women who he should have ended up with. And he's had travel his entire life. Doing other shit only ever wanted to do was half one dance. With the past and he loved. And, that's kind of I want to be honest. I Yeah I care about this stuff. By don't care for it. I care about a about this work. Do Care about by. Don't care for it. I wish it never happened I. Wish I was never this Passan I am? I was writing this morning about this and I thought. I did not ask for this life. I didn't ask any of it. And I have to say those people have to hear this. It's too much though me. It's too much. The things are expected to deliver. On the science of the fucking cowards. I get cooled up to comment by the BBC. About Eaton's history with colonialism and slavery. And I'm like. Why is the headmaster of Eton not talking about this? Why the descendants of slave traders not talking about this? Why have you not cold them? Why have you called a black person who was the most affected by that kind of environment to comment? Why do you always cool the oppressed to comment on the oppression? This is my fucking job. People say our Mussa like you made a career, I said. Do you know I've lost? If people knew how many friends I lost acquainted. I'd lost connections lost, and so oh, yeah, but do it. Do it for the work for the work, so yeah, price you paying. What price of these people pay on a human level? I'll do it. I'll do it. Don't get me wrong. I'll do the work I'm not going to give us an fucking medal I do it. This private conversations I've had a far more stressful fof nappy Kyw, far more important in the article I and I have those conversations and I never duck them. Out in the last week alone I have had. More of those conversations than most people, most fuckers having a lifetime where I've called people up cool people out in a private context when it's most frightening. I've called out people who've helped my career and I've written them privacy and said you were wrong. I've spoken to them and I'll keep doing it. And this isn't about whereas my reward. This is not what I'm saying. It's like. How do I get home? When do I get home? When do I feel safe? The fact that I sat here the age of forty. And I wrote an essay. I'm talking about. Maybe I'll sacrifice for the next. People dot made me sad. Because made me realize at some level I have given up. On macy my unhappiness. I have given up on it. So, yeah, Multi S. Is Well. I'm dislike. On that guy that lives on the corner. and He loves his partner. And Evan. Mary knows about none outside the district. We Know Zain. And like. When he passes away like Oh. Yeah, he was a guy. A No one really knows that much more. Yeah, it was a guy who was around Latina. His partner and they love doing this nasty, not and they were kind of my. That's my multi-diverse. And the reason why I can paint so eloquent is because I think about it. All the fucking time. I'm so far. This is the saddest thing about all of it. The past I am. A dent regret the life. I've made a proud of it. I'm really proud of what I've done with while I was given. But I'm so far. From the reality tonight one for myself. I think we'll be fucking. Slow painful I realize often about the multiple within. This this idea eve may ask his dislike. In this reality. It has been the span testicle reality. Physics improve. Do you know what I mean? It's not even a parallel universe that you can slip into slack. It feels like. The feeling is it's not there. But the longing for is the all the time. All the time and I want people to hear this because I wanted to fucking no. This is not a game. We'd have fun without complaint about this Shit for fun Oh. That sounds me. You sound like a normal duty. I am a fucking normal dude. With an op normal life an APP, normal challenges. When I was twenty two when I came out as bisexual. When my, Good friends at beloved friend who a lot in his life. At he knew I'd gone through private school rest of it. He was sad when he heard come out. He was sobbing had to come out because he said. My God. It just never ends so Mussa, does it? It just never ends. Dot Ole Miss Burke. Strong enough to deal with it. When I heard from someone I respected so much. How how much hotter my life was going to become. Considering how hard to be in some ways. I am. Almost broke me. Because being faced with the scale of the challenge I, look at my life now and I'm like. Yeah, you know I'm forty years old. And it's far top proudest achievement. Is I never looked away from life. I kept looking life in by. Which is talk because it should be achieving a self, but it is. So! Yeah, that's my. Yeah. It's like you said earlier. It's almost miraculous, but you haven't got substance abuse issues. Was Numb. The. Pain! and loss escaping whilst the desire. HAS BEEN SOME NO MUSS All the time all the time, every time I send out piece of work even today. I wrote piece criticizing the labour. Leader Kissed Alma. No Me, I sat here and I am I was going to publish. This is so angry. I'm going to publish this. I almost didn't send it. I'm a human being like anyone else. Almost didn't publish, are maybe it's lead unwritten. I thought you know what. People have to know. People? have to see how painful. I know I know that couple of labor. Cedar Labor petitions read. My work on twitter. No, they follow my account. I know that they'll see it at least. People have to know how painful this is. He has to know how much she had people. He asked him how devastating that was. He has to know an an. That's why published it because it ended the day. No Me I. Think all the time like how many Brigham I gonNA burn. How many more opportunities awaiting closed off? I didn't mean much money as a writer. I might do on data, but until now like I'm forty as come this far been nine years self employed and I've said no to big money Amin said not a lot of money I said no to lock. Things have changed my life because it wasn't right, it wasn't ethical. Doing all of that. And he do a lot for the right reason. You're doing it to try and do the right thing and to come home. To See people that aren't even trying. That's what published it because people have to see the here. Like. I came I saw, and it was painful. You know like. And you have to see that. If you'll silent, they'll kill you. Tell you. Enjoyed it? That's the only reason I speak and I think there's a lot namuli sacrifice. How much of I risked how much of I lost by being us? Outspoken black man is angry. This and that probably like. Probably loads. Probably. Loads. Osama say yeah, you've got friends your beloved. Yeah, his thing like they can say a lot that staff. But it's also pulled to notice the pain. I do love I. Do have life that love me caffeine. I care for them. And at the same time. I have to notice the pain. Because I want people to hear it. They don't need to hear it, but I wanted to hear it. I got to slang. Thank you because I know. It new pay view but Sharon hang on. We'll be public sharing unjust showing your vulnerability is. Is a huge threat to generosity. And I hope it hasn't. Taken from you know how some because. Not Ashamed of phone ability. But I just want to add my voice to the many voices. 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Local Hour: We Got The F'n Bus

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Go and stay for like a good neighbor stay form. Is there? The Dan Le Batard show with Stugotz. Podcast is presented by the capital one venture card earn unlimited miles on every purchase everyday capital. One what's in your wallet. Very cool episode. This week of the local with David Samson hosts of nothing personal tease last week. We were either going to do Expos episode or John Henry Episode. We're going to save the Expos for next week. This episode will be dedicated to John. Henry's time down here in Florida John. Henry's purchase of the Boston. Red Sox how Samson and Loria came into the fold and all their dealings with John Henry. So you guys are Montreal. Running the experts. How does a Florida thing get on your radar at first so back then in two thousand and we started it late nine hundred ninety nine and one of the first owners meetings? I ever went to in two thousand. We heard the word that was a word that I never thought I would ever hear. I thought it was a joke when it came to negotiating because there was a collective bargaining agreement being negotiated in the word in the middle of an owner's meeting. Were sitting there wide eyed looking at George Steinbrenner thinking. Wow we're in this great room for the first time and we hear the word contraction. God so can you imagine you finally get to the room where it happens and so what you think is that happens and you hear. That's it. We're going to have to eliminate two franchises and everyone's looking around the room and so everyone is looking at the owners where I bind. I'm like no it's not gonNA be REINSDORF. No it's definitely not going to be the dodgers what about you George. No probably not you. They then we look over. Carl POHLAD WHO OWNED THE MINNESOTA TWINS? He looks over at us. Appear like oh so it's literally that's going on and I always assumed the contraction was merely a negotiating position. But they sold it bud. Seelig stood up and said we're doing contraction because back then there were so many leaks from owners to the press that anytime something happened in owners meeting the got it. Sometimes while meeting was happening seelig in a meeting in two thousand one during very serious negotiations with the Union and stuff that was going on. He was in the middle of a meeting. He had said something and given out of financial document. He comes in a half hour later because there had been a presentation by Rob Manfred. Who's doing labor and but had a temper but we'd be pounding diet cokes pounding. Them that's what he did. He didn't drink coffee. He didn't take drugs. He didn't take adderall. Pounded Diet Cokes. Keeping in mind of course that baseball's a Pepsi an absolute Pepsi sponsored league so all of his handlers had to keep taking his cans of Diet Coke in pouring them into a glass. He was once famously. On television at a jewel event with a can of diet coke people running around like a chicken without a head. They were showing with him so he's bound to die. Cokie storms to the front of the room. God Damn it. I say one F- In thing here and ten minutes it's in the God damn breasts. Who's doing it stand up? Why don't you be a man and do it right here? Of course you could be back because there were no women in the room and so he went crazy. So leaks are going on so I just figured contraction was one of those things. It was never going to happen so the meeting ends Jeffrey Sesame. All Right David. We just got into baseball. There's no chance so you make sure that you get to bud. Seelig right now and tell him that we will not be contracted in here I am. I'm a new president. I'm thirty one years old thirty two. I was just turning thirty two so an owner's meeting ends and right after the storm to the front like this little child at school going to the principal storm to the front. And there's bud ceiling and Bob you pay the president of baseball and I go right to the front. It's been a very tension filled meeting and I say listen. We WILL NOT BE CONTRACTED. We just wanted to let you know that. There's listen here Samson at your ass out of this room we'll get back to you already to back to you. I mean I was scolded. We were new to the game. It's like when you're the last picking the playground you know in the playground game. I was nothing nothing. I built up no credibility. I didn't know anyone. It was brutal so we prepared a document and the next owners meeting. We stood up and read this document into the record in front of the owners about how we will not be control. You guys retrospect this all seem so silly. And I'm a little embarrassed view it was. It was unreal. We were fighting for our business lives because we didn't believe that I couldn't deliver the rate of return that he would want to invest in the expos and then be contracted out of baseball. We weren't going to get a big enough premium to make it worthwhile financial transaction and he will not have been in the game. Jeffrey except a season or two. So why go through of the pain of buying a franchise which it was in Montreal just to have no benefit? I promise the audience will get into exactly how you got the expos. If you bought the expos with the intention of relocating them the Puerto Rico aspect that enter the equation. All of that will be covered in next week's episode. But I want to say on the John Henry Thing John Henry. One of the owners that is in this room as you're giving this presentation so we knew about. John Henry is that he was a financial guy. Little bit eccentric and that he was miserable in Florida so we knew that there was no ballpark. We knew that Wayne. Hisen goods sold to John. Henry we know that high single wanted to build Wayne's world with public money and didn't get it and he stood by his promise to fire sale the team after ninety seven. Let's hit pause on the conversation Wayne's world. There was all sorts of talk and even with Stephen Ross. You hear waterpark. What exactly was Wayne's world? I'm sure you guys talked about those plans when he first got the team. What went into Wayne's world? What was the vision? Yeah we saw those plans and it was all I think of when he would say. Wayne's world is wally world right and I would think of vacation and John Candy. Same Sorry Folks Park closed. You know it's it was. He wanted to make that area in Miami Gardens. A destination with not just the stadium but he had so many parking lot seeing wanted to buy the surrounding land and he wanted to amusement park. He wanted a concert area. He wanted a place not in picture. Top Golf Right now which had not been invented but something like top golf where there would be people would come and stay and spend money. And you wanted to call it Wayne's world because as you know that used to be a thing would I don't think our audience knows about Wayne's world anymore. Do they better better? Wayne's world was an SNL sketches that was widely popular spun off into a movie to really funny movies actually one of the more popular SNL spinoffs. I don't believe that Wayne High Zingo would have been able to name his theme park Wayne's world because I guarantee you that was already tied up in a copyright. I think that that was just like a working document we to name. This is for a whole other episode. I've never been talked about this. Everything we did in baseball. We had a name for it. So the whole negotiation project Wolverine Okay. That was jeeter not not ours. But that's the concept right are named for that was projects Finney F. I N. it. Which is French for finished in? We are finished. Pay The money see later. So everyone has a project named they. You know working name. So we're John Henry. We knew several things about him. He had said or reportedly had said that he would build a stadium in Florida if he couldn't get public financing. We spoke John Henry about that and he denied the entire thing he said is the biggest misunderstanding of his entire career to that point business career. Maybe even personal career that anyone in Florida could have thought that. He said that he would go ahead and build a stadium and then people would play the sound bite and he would deny it. Say No that's taken out of context. I never said that he had no intention. This is what we knew when we were Montreal number one. The marlins had a problem because there was no ballpark coming for John. Henry and John. Henry didn't want to invest any money. He wanted it fully funded number to John. Henry was paying every lobbyist in Florida to get public money from the state and local government number three John. Henry's wife at the time they had a big house in Boca. They hated Florida. She wanted out of Florida. They had a daughter in. There was a lot of negative attention toward John Henry toward his family. He had security and he just didn't want to live that way. He wanted out number four. He couldn't stand the fact that he thought the Marlins that Miami Florida Broward was just a horrific market that he was going to be stuck in a small market. Never get a ballpark. Never be able to succeed so he was finished. And we knew this. So as contraction continues and. We think that it's not going to happen. But we have to pretend it's happening we take our stand and say we're not going to sell. We're not GonNa let you contract us. You know we'll take you to court. We told baseball we will go to court to save our franchise. We then came up with an idea that involved John Henry and I remember clear as day. We had a lawyer from proske our rose. Who's been our lawyer from the beginning and still is through the jeeter transaction from the beginning and we went to baseball and we said we'd like to propose the deal that we WANNA buy another team. Let's look at what teams are available. And we'll sell you the expos and you can contract them and we will buy another team. What other teams are for sale? And that's how the franchise swap. I started because John Henry had to sell the MARLINS. But there's so much more to this story because it got so complicated along the way but that's how it started in our negotiations with John Henry out. I'll just say this Mike. He wanted to buy the Los Angeles. Angels not the Boston. Red Sox really a I. Seventy percent of our negotiation with John. Henry was based on him by the angels. Wow that's that's surprising so these conversations when you when you pitch this idea to major league baseball we'll sell you back the expos as a part of this contraction thing and I'm not really sure we're Washington enters the picture just yet years but because Major League baseball runs and operates the expos for a couple more seasons. I believe the way that the NBA sort of brand the Pelicans as a placeholder ownership just maintain the the organizational structure of a commodity an asset to to sell back so John. Henry is open to this but he already has plans to buy another team. Was this something. That was a result of your approach to John Henry or was this something. He already had his eye on because his wife wants to leave Florida and he just has his sights on bigger and better. He may deny this but the truth is that he would have been fine with contraction of the marlins but the price was not gonna be what he wanted because what happened was he bought the Marlins from Wayne Highs Inga for one hundred twenty million dollars in that range and he then invested his own money into changes that heisinger wouldn't pay for as the landlord. Now member Zingo went from the owner of the Marlins to the landlord for the Marlins who were attendant in his building. At Pro player John Henry put about eighteen million dollars into refurbishing pro player stadium to make it more baseball friendly so John. Henry was unwilling to sell the Marlins to anybody for a penny under what had put in just a few years earlier. Now the value of the franchise had gone down in our opinion because they were not trying to remember John Henry famous for bringing fans down from the upper deck and having them sit with him and you know all the rain delays and all the service that goes on when you own a team year in Florida he wanted every penny back in his position with the League was make me hall or there is no deal John Henry was actually viewed favourably at least initially because just when you compare it to the betrayal of what Wayne Highs Inga fans. Were just happy to get a new guy in there and he said all the right things at least initially and you believed what he was selling after a while but I remember being confused as because he started crying poor when he was publicly looking for money. This obviously does not Mesh with someone. Who's working behind the scenes to spend more money on another franchise in Waas Angeles is this? I'm sure owners don't bat an eye at this understanding his plans. And that's the game you cry poor in public and everyone knows that you're just trying to maximize the amount of public money so you don't have to front the money yourself for your own stadium which is just a fundamental issue that not only. I have but I think Billy Corbin has a twitter account dedicated to how. How does this go over? Is this just so commonplace that it doesn't even register among the other owners. It doesn't register at all. This is a Tuesday. This is standard operating procedure. I think there's just a nuance right. Mike you're saying that he cries poor. I don't think any owner cries poor personally where they say. I'm poor what they are saying. Though is the business. They're running is poor and doesn't make money on an operational basis and you don't get rich by running businesses that lose money. Yeah I understand how how this business goes and that is an important distinction for the for the audience. You know exactly what I mean but he was he mocking up blueprints four stadiums. What was John? Henry's Stadium Plan. Did it ever go past just hoping someone would pay for it? He wanted his ballpark nowhere else. But the slip down by the AAA that was his only location. Interestingly enough he was offered again. I don't think that this has ever been told I could be wrong. He was offered the land at the Miami Design district which back then was not the Miami Design district back. Then you have to remember. This is only twenty years ago back then it was nothing I mean. It was squalor and he said absolutely no chance. This is a dump and it's never gonNA be anything so he turned that area down. He could have had that entire area and developed a rounded. I mean you have to be pressured to know what would happen because now that area's just flowing in full an amazing but he was obsessed with being on the water because you have to understand from perspective standpoint. It's a copycat world you see three rivers in in in Pittsburgh there new. Pnc Park has the water you see. At and T. Park San Francisco has the water. You feel as though that is the panacea to show the water. Believe me I get it because I used to feel that way until I realized it was a non starter but John Henry said water or bust. Okay so you have this plan. We want to buy another team. You identify all the teams in Major League Baseball. The marlins look like a the best possible solution for you guys because you think you can get more of a cut rate price. Because they're not worth what John Henry is thinking it's worth. Do you approach John Henry before you go public with this plan or do you. Just we think we think the marlins work for us and then we'll go from there. We would look at any team but it was critical from our standpoint. Point is we wanted to find a team that matched and value with the expos. Because we didn't want to put more money into acquisition debt. We wanted to have powder-dry for player acquisition or for putting money into the payroll. Just take a year later. We'd rather have ten million to give to pudge Rodriguez then ten million to give to John Henry acquisition and dollars dollars you either use them one place to another you know they don't. This sounds funny right. Your parents said money doesn't grow on trees. Where's the money tree right so dollars or fungible? No matter how rich you are poor you are dollars proposals so we went to baseball. And said the expos are worth the same as the Marlins we would be willing to take the Marlins and give you the expos you can contract the expos and the twins. 'cause car pole ad was done. He was old and he was ready to sell back. Get rid of the twins they were going to be done. There was no new ballpark. At the time they were playing in the Was it the out act. It was it was an inflated Balloon. That would often famously deflate famously deflated. Once and it was just an eyesore watching. That stadium hosts Major League Baseball game. So bizarre there would just be in Kabul was a wealthy guy. Mike I mean this was not a proper but not but it's a business so John Henry we would would happen is back then. You didn't do much phone. Negotiating the commissioner would call us into New York and we'd be in separate rooms so I'd be there with Jeffrey and a lawyer and a banker and then John Henry would be in a different room and then baseball being a different room in their be shuttled diplomacy because we were very clear. We are not paying one dollar more than what you will pay for the Expos. Big Baseball said to us. We're only giving you one twenty and we said that's fine. We're only giving twenty two. John Henry John Henry said forget it. I'm not doing one thing until you give me one thirty eight five and that's when we came up with the idea say all right. Here's how we'll do one thirty eight five baseball. You give John Henry the extra eighteen point five do it. And we'll pay you back if we get a new ballpark and if we get a new ballpark because we succeed. No one else could the billionaires Henry in housing us if we get it we're GonNa pay you back a full eighteen and a half if we don't get a ballpark within two or three years then we're GonNa pay you back nine million dollars twenty years from now and that is what will do and you guys did that. That was the language so you did actually pay. What a bargain for you guys actually. In retrospect what a hell of an investment grade were retrospect though right. Because it's time keep in mind that the ideal situation Florida from Bud seelig standpoint would be to sell to someone local now one your Monaco. Dina's of the world who people may not know his name anymore because he's past generation there was no whore. Hey Mosque there was no one who stepped up in two thousand and two to save the Marlins and Florida because they would have sold to anyone with a pulse would match John. Henry's one thirty eight five and not one person down here would do it. I'm curious were there. Any runners up to the marlins when you guys were trying to identify a team to own what was what was second place. We were looking at everything. We looked at Minnesota to see what that would be like. Because then you can contract Florida and it's sort of like it's musical chairs of franchises. Someone's going to be left in two. We're going to be gone if they actually go through with contraction which I never thought they would. I always thought it was bargaining. But we looked at all of the sort of small teams. We looked at Tampa and what that would be like at that time. That was before Stu Sternberg. That was the Vincent moly years who he had his own issues with major league baseball rest in peace but so we were just interested in being in the game but we were not interested in paying the premium required to upgrade to amid revenue or high revenue franchise. We wanted the value play. Because I knew we could get a ballpark no matter where we went. 'cause I was willing to get dirty and I don't mean that in a legal way. I was willing to do the work that John Henry. And frankly now that STU Sternberg and the people in Oakland or not willing to so how do the red sox enter the equation for John Henry? So the angels were a deal that was going to be the swap. Sell Montreal by Florida. Have HIM SELL US. Florida and then by the angels and he could not cut a deal on price with the angels owner which was the Austrian estate back in the day it was gene. Autry believe it or not. How on that team while he could not come to an agreement. I baseball could man. I thought it was Disney at that time because Disney on the angels for a little bit dizzy purchase it from gene autry and they went to Marino. So you're I was behind Disney before gene autry. No no gene autry was the longtime owner. Okay so now I'm Gonna I'M GONNA look this up because you could be right but I don't think you are. I'm almost positive it was autry to head. It would have been to Henry but it went autry to Disney to marina. Okay but could be wrong but let's it could be Disney or could be actually but it doesn't but whatever it was. They couldn't get a price and John Henry just said No. I'm not doing the deal. Because a I can't guarantee the one thirty eight five for the MARLINS and be I'm not paying five hundred million four the angels so then all of a sudden the owners of the Red Sox Miss. I promise you was the Yawkey Yuckiest state where the estate trustee was. The guy named John Harrington John Harrington Mr Harrington I call them so I think as I am as John they were selling because the Yankees were dead. It's called Yawkey way to this day. Yawkey Way and so John Henry said I would be willing to I. The Red Sox Egypt wanted a big market team. He wanted out of all small markets. And how does that go over with the other owners? Because when you're on the MARLINS and revenue sharing is still think back then all of the big clubs look down on all the small clubs that are taking essentially their money and not pulling their own weight. That's the way that it's viewed from from the owners of the big clubs. So how does this go over amongst all the other owners that you're probably talking to so I'm looking? I just want to go back and get it right because we have now. The owners of the angels that Autry owned it till nine ninety nine then Disney from ninety nine to zero three and then Marino got it no three so in. Oh to it was Disney so was Disney. You are correct negotiation. Thank you so much Chris. I can't it's hard to remember. I I got it wrong. I'm old but that's why the Google is so good. Sorry I wanted to not have that wrong for our listeners. Shutout to Chris Wittingham who is on this. Zoom Co host of a popular Chelsea. Podcast called Chelsea Mike W should check it out. That's a perfect play. By the way on a plugged as it is. Thank you Chris. So what happened with the Red Sox is that? He said that he wanted to go to a big market team. And Bud silly at the time spoke to the owners and said this is perfect. He spoke to a small group of us. Who are the small revenue owners? The way he had been with Milwaukee he said we will have one of us on the other side so bud thought that having John Henry Own. A big market team was perfect because he was a big time. We'll small-market champion and therefore we would have one more vote when there would be fights amongst the owners. There's no way there's no way I'm sure that was the thought. There is no way once he started owning the red sox and seeing what that cash cow was doing that he stayed a champion for small market causes. Well one of the big issues between the Red Sox of Major League Baseball to this day is the fact that John Henry disappeared. He became the biggest big market bully in in all of baseball worse than the Yankees worse than Frank mccord worse than the dodgers John. Henry became an animal about big. I just hated the small markets and tried to squash squash US squish us. Every moment he could one of bud ceilings again. Will you admit these things who knows what by but bud wrote a book and it didn't mention this part? One of his biggest disappointments was how John Henry went to the dark side and went so far to the dark side that it was almost unrecognizable man. So do owners still to this day. That grudge with John Henry or so much time has passed. That it's just sort of is what it is at. This point is a lot of new owners. So Derek jeter Bruce. Sherman couldn't care less. They don't know John. Henry is a small market guy. They know big market behemoth so when when ownerships change those sort of things go away but like Rob Manford people. In the Commissioner's Office. They have long memories and they remember John. Henry is eccentric guy so I got to know him through the negotiation he and I had a very difficult relationship because I did. The majority of the negotiating with his people who were Lucinda treats to work for the MARLINS and David Ginsburg who is vice chairman for the Marlins and then it goes were very difficult is John. Henry and Jeffrey Loria were both completely irrational. In how they wanted this franchise swap to work so John. Henry would call one day and say by the way. We're taking Josh Beckett with us. And and he would call and say that's part of the deal you can't get the marlins unless you trade me and give me as part of the transaction. Josh Beckett so I would then call Bob. Dupay the president of baseball and say okay. John Henry Want Josh Beckett. Let me tell you. We're taking Vladimir Guerrero. Oh man so. We ended up having meetings where we were drafting players and doing reserve lists of our own teams that we had prior to doing this franchise. Swat when he the second. You Wait David. Are you telling me that you guys sort of Beta tested a contraction draft? Where SARS like Vladimir Guerrero would switch teams as a part of a larger sail? Yes we were going to take with US Guerrero Vasquez Vidrio. We were going to move over. We had a few guys in our farm system we wanted. We were GONNA move them for Montreal to Florida. We were GONNA give John Henry. The right to take players from Florida would've taken Miguel Cabrera with him to where he was going in Boston. And what happened was we were negotiating with Florida with the Marlins. And we were doing this franchise player Swat it would come out like a big trade is what it would have been and bud seelig call us both up at the same time instead all right. Here's the rules. There will not be one player moved. There will not be one trade made between you. You are buying the Red Sox. You are leaving. The marlins as is and we said well if they're no players going here's something that is an absolute nonstarter. We will not spring training Vieira so we made as part of the deal that we got to keep Jupiter which is why the expo men nationals ended up in that absolute crap. Vieira and now. They're down acting Palm Beach. But that was a nonstarter where we said you know we want Jupiter. That's where the Expos were with the cardinals. We built that we our organization were staying. Because that's where Jeffrey had a place was in Palm Beach and he didn't WanNa Schlep to Vieira every day to watch his team while stain or stain at a Holiday Inn Express. Not There's anything wrong with that. If you're a sponsor don't want upset anyone nothing wrong with that but maybe something wrong. If you're a major league baseball team I guess maybe if you stay there though you can wake up and be an owner of a major league base- precisely I said at a Holiday Inn Express last night took took a negative turn it into a positive so I imagine that that's not that huge of a hurdle league teams often switch parent clubs in baseball. So that wasn't that big of a hurdle or was it now. It took some time because they were there was a disappointment because the Marley baseball were keeping they were keeping the expos. This is how I tested the contraction. Theory if you're contracting the team you shouldn't care less where your spring train but if you're buying it from us to resell to someone and move it because you won't let us move then you're going to be annoyed that you have to sell the team that. Spring trains in Vr. Because that could have a deleterious impact on the actual value of the team. So I sort of was snuffing out and what they were doing but at the end of day care. My job was to keep Jeffrey in baseball. And at the Marlins so we go through these negotiations and then we touched talking about employees. Mikey and this is what we got hammered for. We wanted our expos employees to come us to Florida Scouts player development. All the baseball people and we got in trouble because we made that happen as a condition to the deal we were not gonNa let everyone who worked for the expos just out on the vine and then you get contracted or work for baseball and not be treated the way we would want to treat our employees. Even though we'd only been there a year at that time John Henry then had to fire all of the MARLINS baseball people. He wouldn't do the same and take them to Boston cloud. He brought a feud Boston but not many and we got hammered publicly. I'll never forget it was a front page story in. You guys took this public hit when it's really John. Henry's decision. It was one of the great public hits of all time as it was the cover of baseball America. Basically blaming us for everything and all the firing of all these employees and I felt badly for the baseball employees for the MARLINS. I was not loyal to them. I was loyal to our baseball employees from the expos. So you get the blame for firing these people and no credit for protecting people's jobs which is how things go right and I and I'm fine with that because it didn't matter at getting that blame getting that blame it's just something that matter to us internally so we negotiate this. The closing binder for the transaction was literally the size of whatever like an elephant? Right this thick inches could is here. That that document as a as a bit of memorabilia. It's something I have. I have the closing binary. Get closing binder of all the documents their list of names because there were names that were involved in the transaction their list of names and these were nameless faceless people who were part of a sales transaction they had no idea about because we assume that these employees we assume their contracts like Julio Rabul is a name who was the marketing guy for the marlins twenty years ago and we had to assume him and his contract and we had never met him so like ticket sales reps and aimed show up in this document every last one of them every piece of everything because it was an asset swap so legally for tax purposes when you do an asset exchange and it's called the ten thirty one exchange where you exchange one asset for another you literally have to put every asset that you are acquiring or selling into a bucket so we had a list of every copier. We had a list of every pitching machine. We had a list of every net every every every every roll of tape. It is insanity but hey you do what you have to do because you're paying four hundred bucks an hour to a lawyer do it. But you're making ten thousand dollars a unit for doing this transaction that way. So did you were sort of helping the MARLINS and Derek jeters ownership group with the transition of power right. Who was doing that for John? Henry was it John Henry. How active was he in the handover of the Marlins John Henry was absence? He left the negotiating. Lucinda trait and David Ginsburg John. Henry would only call me when Lucinda David were so angry with me over something he would then call and try yelling at me thinking that I cared does. He's he can be intimidating guy and we had some absolute knock out drag impacted our relationship for the fifteen years that. I was in a game with a master that and once he married he got divorced. Ironically remarried someone named Linda and once I got to know Linda and she was younger much younger and and Nice though driven and he just had a new life and he became a bit softer. He's a very sort of eccentric. Interesting man brilliant but not. He's pretty socially awkward. He doesn't like to be spoken too much. Doesn't like to talk much. He has this aura about him that it looks almost like he's very pale. Yeah he kind of looks like Bill Gates he does kind of look like Bill Gates but with weightless face coloring and he carries eyedrops with them everywhere because his is don't tear so he would do it in a very strategic way. When he was really angry with you he would he would. He would pause without the eyedrops. Look up in. The Sky opened his eyes drop drops in and expect you to give in by the time. The eyedrops were in his eye. And that we tell like when you play poker so my goal was always to get him to the dropper. Because if I get him to put drops in his eyes. I knew that I was making some progress. We had some fun talking. Are there any other eccentricities like that? But he has a yeah he had the you know the Marlins bus if you ever seen the marlins bus around town it was John. Henry's motorcoach. He bought an from scratch. Two million dollar motorcoach. That's like a tour bus that couches and MTV's DIRECTTV and he would drive it back and forth from his house in Boca player and then spring training and back. This was his boss and a condition of the sale. Is He want to keep the boss? You wanted to have the bus for him in Boston. And right before the deal was closing. Its my famous and favorite bus story. Is I called John? Henry said by the way we're taking the bus and he lost his mind Alabama on me starting wearing because I just wanted to give. I was so annoyed with the way Lucinda David Ginsburg were acting that. I said you know what I don't care. I'll walk away from this deal over this boss John Henry at a black tie event. He was at a wedding. He walks out of the wedding he caused me and he starts swearing at me right. Same God damn it. I'm telling you right now. This is my F- and I'm not even talking about this the fact that you made me step out of this party about this bus. This is an outrage. I said John. Let me be very clear. Enjoy your wedding. There is no deal without the bus. Click next phone call. I get is from Major League Baseball. Bob dupay you're going to blow up the biggest franchise swap historic a part of history. David and you're telling ME OVER TWO MILLION DOLLAR BUS. You are going to blow this transaction up. I said Bob. I'm telling you now know bus. No Deal David. Are you being serious? Are you flexible Nissen? Anyway I said Bob I will die on the bus days later. John Henry gave up the bus and he really didn't talk too much after that and we still have the bus great story what you still have the bus teeth so as a buzz when jeeter closes you ride that sucker. God You did not even better than that. We're selling to JEETER jeeter. Is I pay attention to anything other than the fact that a rod is not getting the team. That's all jeeter cared about literally. That was it. So there's an asset in the deal. It's an asset deal which means you're buying assets. He was buying the assets from us from Jeffrey and one of the assets was the bus. So how old is this bus now? It's by the way this can go forever. This bus can go to a million miles. It's got fifty thousand one hundred thousand miles on it and this is gold. I am sitting in. Pj Loyal Office with Jeff CONAN PJ Lori L. O. These communication the guy who hates all of you guys because you do nothing but manipulating yeah. He can't even listen to these local hours right. He has like. Ptsd from a sweat. Standpoint were category so we're sitting in his office me Jeff Conan. Leyla I said Co nine. This team has been sold but I have a crazy idea. Let's call Jeffrey. And let's by the bus the two of us so we call Jeffrey and say Jeffrey we WANNA buy the bus from you and Jeffrey said well. I don't care his jeeter as jeeter. He's getting the bus. I said WHO cares. We're just GONNA take it out of the deal. Jeter won't carry one the difference. Jeffrey Loria sold the bus to me and Cohen for ten grand grand. We online and I started a company to buy the bus. It's called W. G. T. F. B. LLC. We got the F. In Bus LLC incredible story ownership. That's one of the best stories. I've ever heard on this show in credible my God David. This was a lot better than I even imagined. I had high hopes for this story. Holy Shit you brought it. David Samson host nothing personal. Make sure to check out his podcast. Let's end this podcast episode. Incredible with your movie or TV series review of the week man. I can't believe that is such a great story. I had never told the we got the bus story before whereas the bus now that bus park it north at a u-haul lot and it's totally refurbished and we rented out and it pays for itself pre pandemic and it's appreciating right. It's it's worth way more it. Derek Dozen Carreno the difference. It's not the Marlins Jeffrey doesn't care. No the difference. It's CONAN's bus in my bus trip. Exactly real gotta take the bus one day to a marlins game and tailgate. That is the greatest. Let's do this. I have not been you know. I've not been to a baseball game. Since my last game and seventeen this is the perfect way to do it. The buzzer and you didn't even know it. The it's it's a bleep. You Bus David. And you know it. It's it's signifies for you get the bus for ten thousand dollars after almost blowing up. I'm Major League baseball deal. Oh my gosh. We aren't interrupted. Chris what is this Chris? Chris Found W. T. FBI LLC? Set up by David Samson and Jeffrey Nine could my God there's public records of this way Dijon Mike and bus LLC. Mike I have a serious question. Free up the story. No no you couldn't make up a story that good and I know that seems like an insult but not even a screenwriter could come up with something like that that honestly I needed send this sound out to an animator and they could do an entire story board for this. I can't believe the story you just told the got the FBI. So my account. When I I submitted because it pays taxes he kept saying what is this like. I've never seen an LLC. What does this stand for? And I told him and he said why. You've named the company after we got the embassy said. Tell me that story so I did. And he didn't believe it but that's the name of the company on Real my God all right. What are you doing this week? How do you end it with a room to turn reviews to reviews next week? You gotta go off on a high note of Got Ethin- bus LLC. Jesus Christ David Sansa. That was incredible man and I was actually a little bit more excited for the Expos episode. It's got it's got a tough act to follow the John. Henry episode is legend. David Samson hosted nothing personal. Make sure to support David Samson. He's really good at this media south and he's turned into content machine here during this pandemic as we listen to some of his great story. So thank you so much for that. That's one of my favorite things I've ever done ever thank you Mike.

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Commentary and Reactions to Apple One More Thing Event and Announcements with Michael Sliwinski, Nozbe

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Commentary and Reactions to Apple One More Thing Event and Announcements with Michael Sliwinski, Nozbe

"Hello personal productivity enthusiasts and community. Welcome to anything but idle the productivity news podcast. I'm ray sidney. Smith gustav peanut. And we're your hosts for anything but idle. This is episode fourteen and were recording this note. This is episode twenty nine. I believe This is episode twenty nine and we're recording this on november eleventh twenty twenty Each week we come to you for productivity news and technology news and commentary we do commentary on that and But once in a while there's a special event something comes up like the apple one more thing event that happened and So we're gonna be talking to you about that today and we're going to cover. What apple announced in their mac lineup and to do that we brought a special guest. Someone who is also an apple fan With gustavo to combat me on all things apple and that is michael sliwinski from knows. Maybe he's the ceo of knows. Michael is a productivity guy. He's the founder and ceo of knows our they have to productivity apps knows teams which is an uber functional to do app for small and medium teams and then nosy a project management and collaboration tool for busy professionals Not be teams and knows our web based tools with apps for all major platforms michaels also speaker author of bestselling of bestselling books. He's a podcast or a blogger and he is happily married to his wife eveline and their three daughters as well. Welcome to anything. But i don't michael. Hey guys yes great to have you great to have you. So we're going to do today is we're going to talk about the apple one more thing and so. Let's just do initial impressions. What were your initial impressions. Gentlemen of Of the show. And okay. I can start over with saying that i was out of all these events. It was the one. I was looking for most because It's an event for geeks. I mean there is a major processor. Change like major. Cpu change this is for geeks. And i'm a gig at heart so for me. This was like i knew iphones. Whatever like stuff but like new processors this is the big big shift and especially you know going from something that we know so well like into processors to do something completely unknown i mean no my our ipads and iphones but can unknown on on editor untraditional computers. So for me. This event was really really cool. And i was hoping for significant speed improvements but most of i was hoping for a much longer battery life on the computers and yeah we got both so. Yeah i'm really really happy and excited to check these things out. I agree with you. This was a geeky event. I was also taking out an excited about listening what is coming. I think it be something really cool. What is going to come from apple in the next years because of as not the apple. Fan on the panel. I don't have anything against apple so i was. I was uniquely interested in the way in which they presented this because this is the third event in two months. Is that what. Tim cook said You know these are they learning on the fly About how to put on these Events and selling In this way you know really getting people jazzed up about it. And i had to say i was really a remarkably surprised that they did a great job in this third iteration of it wasn't for my perspective wasn't as exciting as the homepod announcement and having that home and everything else setup stadium our wherever they big set but i felt like they did a clean job i think it was the cleanest of the of the three events now and it shows that they are learning how to do these events in this kind of production. Ready web focused world in that way so i was pretty pressed by that and they cannot get enough of the apple spaceship like they i lot how beautiful they definitely love to show off the they really do. But debris so beautiful they were showing. I have seen those and it was still in our how spectacular that and especially now that you know in the comic times like not many people are going to offices so i'm sure like it's like yearly empty. So that's why they at least they can use it for you know. Video should serve right. It's a great studio set when when it's basically empty all the time right. What i really enjoyed was how they showed the the different layers and the different colors as they went from floor to floor. I thought those are really great effect in it and it made the complex on more like a sifi or kind of like a spy movie kind of thing it was really well done in that in that theme Okay so tim cook opens up the show and he actually ended with this quotation. But i felt like it was really a a powerful one to begin with. He said that our mission is to create products that make play a meaningful role in people's lives and and in essence. He's announcing the first set of a max that are founded on apple silicon the m one chip and so then he turns it over to john tyrannus who's their vp of hardware and and he starts talking about some of the specs here related to the m one chip what stood out for you related to the m one and it's i mean that as i said before the speed improvements and everyday so many things that can pack quickly and and i think for them. The key is something that we've been talking about for years now that with their own chip that can it faster so so for them to build an to in a year or three in two years will be really easy. I'm barely inconvenience while waiting for intel to catch up with stuff so he doesn't depend on anyone else now. They depend on themselves. And and the way they showed like the what they showed. Basically was a what we already know from. I phone and an ipad. But for the mac and for me again making making this technology so compact so small but this small processor has everything you need. The cpu of the gp all the courses the whole nine yards and then machine learning and whatever it's amazing and that's why i think we have the sleep in sleeping better life and in this sleep in speed. It is really interesting because we have seen it in the ten years of the ipod and get it. Michael and heavy i producers ipad only users. And he's been really interesting what they have been able to do from the first ipad to the latest version. the on. i'm really excited to see. Even that i don't use the mac really excited to see what now it's going to be the job. Because now they're going to be able to really march at their own speed not dependent on the speed as you saturnine taylor anybody else. And that integration. And that ability to really customize what the chips will do on what the software will do will be incredible enough. We cover later more on big sore i. I've been playing with that released candidate on an old mac book. I mean i still have my old mags. Two thousand thirteen is on. The bottom of the upgrade liner is going to be obsolete in the next twelve months and he says still incredible the improvement on a speed that this machine god as soon as you put sore and that give me if any more excitement about m one m two on m three coming four after say i was I was nikolay interested in how this m one chip nnounced end. How and the things that. I really found to be Quite interesting as a sixteen billion transistors on this on this item item. That's amazing nanotech To be able to really make that kind of etching happen and The unified memory architecture. What they call the ama and italy bringing this single assoc- on the mac This is really Quite phenomenal you. Kind of hinted on this michael but in essence they're putting all the memory components basically in one location for this one to be able to access which of course creates a. It doesn't have to do all of this. You know pulling from multiple locations it can really access that in one place which really to me meant greater speed Greater power management that is less power being utilized for purposes of that. And when you do that that's less heat and And that's really the one of the number one problems with all of these devices being built is how do you keep heat low So that you can Not burn up the the the silicon and at the same time How and And so this is really quite Interesting for me. I'm curious to see how the memory chips Really work on the this kind of you. I may and whether other manufacturers will kind of fall in line now that they see what apple's doing i see there being some really powerful opportunities there for competitors come out and Kind of Reverse engineer what they're doing. I'm deeply concerned about like you know they. They are like it was like a shot in the back. 'cause they they are still playing catch up with their processors they still. They still live in this. Pc world why we have smartphones tablets and now even computers with these chips. They're completely you know. They seem like they are being surprised by this. They haven't seen that coming into. You know i'm not you know. I'm not sure that at some point They might you know. Have the same fate as blackberry. They will just be obsolete. Yeah i mean what they showed was was remarkable and certainly a shot across the bow for intel Just the whole idea that they're jamming all of our onto his end on they're capable of of really getting this amazing about the system They showed some really remarkable graphics in terms of Of speed over. Just you know what they consider the quote unquote latest. Pc laptop chip. Which i think about to be but just think about like usually in macbooks the improvements of performance were like you know twenty percent fifteen percent ten percent like on the ipad. That's why i was reading my ipod very quickly. Because with each ipod it was remarkably fast. Lots lots faster. Only the recent change from ipad pro two ipad pro. The last two ones were the. Wasn't that big. But i'm sure like the new next next year i prefer will be much faster than the one that i have right now but a pc land was ten fifteen percent and now it's two three times faster again. Whoa guests but that is that is the amazing part here is is how much faster. It's going to be and This three x higher performance per watt. I mean that that part actually really shocks me. I mean that you can pull out that much more processing power with With a per watt performance at three x. That's just that's really really amazing. So i'm really excited to see what the m one can do I'm i sit in a household That has many different operating systems and We've got to macbooks To map bulgars and And now thinking about whether or not to go with the macbook pro macbook air as was announced. And we'll get to that shortly but looking at these kinds of performance metrics Just the gp processing power on the m one seems to be really remarkable. So there's some really good stuff coming here. And so Let's get into some of the particulars so john Tyrannus turned it over to to get his name. Wrong john shrewdly Who was the svp of hardware technology. They went down to the basement and then he got to talk about The assoc- on the mac and the and all that other fun stuff and And they focused also on the the secure enclave and they've brought the secure enclave from the irs and world kind of the devices over to the secure enclave. Any any thoughts there in terms of what they're trying to do There with the secure enclave disappointment of the of the evening because everything is a positive today so the first appointment is the lack of face. I d like google doc about this the particulars of each of these laptops and face idea is something i love my ipod like just swipe up and it just recognizes me. It's just beautiful and and when you think about laptop like you open it right in front of your face so it could perfectly recognize you. And that's it and so i guess that that they were in a hurry to launch the first laptops. That's why i won. Don't have that so they just managed to cram the the new stuff in an old design. And that's why it's the first version but yeah but in the future. I'm hoping for more. I'm hoping for like using the same technology that we are spoiled by on ios to to to use the secret clave because this is where it's changed my face. So i would like to see that in the future of you know my son and now that they have come with touch. Id into that. Small factor really charge me two hundred bucks more and give me both. Okay don. Don't take me one or the other gave me both. Give me both so that way. I can open. My laptop was face. Id when i don't have my mask or when i'm mask up. We don't know how long we're going to be my scub- i can use touch. Id give me both agree with you. Though as that was some something. But but he's one thing i was particularly. Excited was the fact that this max will be able to run three different kinds of things. They will be able to run iphone. I by on the mac from maxtor they are now going to be pushing for the universal abs- and directly opposite will work on everyone the ipad on the maximum that. Give me the hope that some of the apps that are behind on the ipad will get that good. I mean they're good on the mag. I will be using good on the ipad and the second part is a transition to rosetta. To and how you will be able to use the legacy but the idea of brings some of my favorite you from the i. Every day to be able to be at work on the mac. I'm really excited about yet again. Taking taking a step back to the secure enclave. I found it to be interesting that they they're putting the secure enclave onto these devices. Because that's going to obviously expand the number of devices that are going to have it and that means that they are utilizing this technology to put a message out there that they are Security focused and that they are a privacy focused and in that sense as well. I'm really i. I'm like you michael i was. I was really expecting more in the face. I d space To be able to find that it's it's one of those things that hopefully it comes in a future edition of mac lineup The really The the next step of course is that they go back to john tyranny and tyrannus. I'm sorry and they announced of kind of what augusta was saying. They announced mac. Os big sur and that will be coming available on november twelfth right so basically. If you're listening to this podcast it will be out And so so mac. Os big service coming out. What were the big changes that you noted in big sur in terms of anything anything big sur yet again so i know you've been playing with a with a playing with it again on old howard. I don't have a recent mac. And i my next mac will be an m one. When gets obsolete in the reason of that is i. Don't use the mac two for anything repeal and put music into the okay. That's the only thing for what my mac is been used. Currently there is no reason for me day. That said when i can get him the mat to put ipad apps into the mac that may make me use the form factor maybe more. I don't know a gay. But what i mean. Not noticing i mean. Aside of the caller is on his style of the dispeat- the speed on all howard. It's been incredible. And i'm really curious to see what that is speed means on the new chips that because if you have been able to just on software get that gain in an old howard. I really wanted to see what that will means in anew howard and again it's i understand. My mac has twenty ram gases exit. Sixteen gigs of ram. But it's still a two thousand and thirteen machine and kate. That comes to my disappointed on howard with news. But i will get into that later on. Yeah one thing before. Like i want to step back to this secure enclave again. It just rate. Because i haven't question because recently i've been setting up a helping other people out there computers in their laptops and they're especially their smartphones and whenever they would go to to you know to to configure either fingerprint or their face. They would always ask me so now. Apple has my finger fingerprints so now now they know all about me. I'm like no no no it. Start on the device. Yeah that's what they say. I don't believe them. So it's like you know we have the secure enclave. We've been brainwashed by apple that this is on the device but still people don't believe that people assume is going to be going to the internet and it's going to be used to profile them or whatever so it's it's tricky that they have it but what he believes that they do. Yeah no i. I'm right there with you. And i i think that a lot of people believe out of of Android as well They they forget that this stuff is happening on device in order to keep it secure and that also means that you can't unlock a particularly unlock a device from another device. If you're using some of this technology because there's a need for there to be local. So you know i think it's just gonna require an ongoing education of of public in terms of One we should always be skeptical of of tech giants and what they're doing with our data But at the same time we should trust in Some of the parts Because if we have no trust then you shouldn't use them at all right like if you have no trustee white. Why are you going to complain about it. Just don't use it It's kind of like people who tell me that they are distrust. You know putting things on the weber using get commerce. And i'm like okay. Well if you have absolute desire for security unplug. Turn off your internet. You know there's this kind of there's a there's a there's a chasm between I can be secure and do right things to be secure. And i'm tinfoil hat and conspiracy theory theorizing So i i really do believe that apple is doing the right things with a secure enclave and i would like to see that Brought across all devices. And i'd like to start seeing now on the on the windows side. I'd like to start seeing microsoft and making some inroads in in in doing some of this work there To build out something very similar on. They've got some a level like lowest level architecture to be able to start working on some of these pieces. And i'd like to see them make a make move there especially on the surface line. They app line since they have control on that level. And that would push the rest of the oem's to start making inroads there So when when they finally turned it over to craig who's the vp of software engineering. And i'm not even pronouncing his last name. Because i don't want a butcher at but craig he He talked about three different things. A speed power and security. And we've already talked about of course security But on the software engineering side he really was talking about the fact that now you're able to do so much more with the m one chip because Apple has apple silicon right that they that they are doing all of this in in other own closed ecosystem. I have problems with that. Because i am. I am an open source advocate. I you know having a greater access to it. Not that windows is open source right primary system but those operating systems based on on the lennox. Colonel are more open in not a little bit more open but much more open than than the apple world But what what apple is capable of doing is remarkable because they are controlling the entire end And so what do you think is gonna happen now that they have announced that all apps apple apps basically are capable of running on them one chip and is. Did i get it right. That all i found an ipad apps will now run on mac. Os big sur with apple. silicon em. yep. I mean from denver perspective. I can tell you that we still have to check it out and we checked it already. Have the the apple developer kit. So the the The mac mini with eight twelve Z. processor so we have it in our company and rather is testing. It and our apps already compile and work like this. There are a few tweaks. did you have to do as a developer. To make sure that they re run well on the on the on the devices and you'd have to change some things to make sure display on the app store but yet in theory what you can basically have a mac that opens just iphone app or an apple ipad up as a normal. You know app on your on your computer. And this way you have access to make a lot of apps for on your on your on your new m one powered device so i think this is brilliant. Move again because they've they've been lacking with a good amac apps. Now you can have the just the iphone ipod also having iphone apps for productivity from practically standpoint. It's really cool. Because they're small. They're really nice narrow apps and you can put a few of these you know an on the sides for example of your white screen and just you know work on your staff and just use these apps around them and i think it's i think it will be. There will be of use cases for these smaller apps appearing on new vessel. Yeah i'm not that big of a fan of the widget concept on a mac os. But i can really some ios apps now on the mac os environment basically having a. I don't know what they call it now desktops or spaces or whatever basically having multiple desktops and having you know basically a little you know kind of mosaic of applications that have running to have as a as a dash things that are going to be really cool and i think even also an is question for michael as a developer since that he will simplify the development for aps for for district platforms. Don't have now i mean. Yeah they're going to be details but but you're not gonna have now tree teams or three people who need to have three different skills to develop. You will be able to have a team to develop an adad will speed up not only suffer coming out but also functionality coming out monday hopefully will means that the software that you're going to be able to install on your phone on your ipad on your mac will be more consistent that he's one of the headaches for ya especially you know. On those teams on both indulge applications. We made sure that you have the same functionality on the mobile phone that you have on the desktop. So you're not losing out on functionality. It's not like its companion app you can can add. That said. it's a true app so it people will be able to choose. Our customers will be able to choose. Do you want. Do i want to use the web view. They want to use the full mac app. Or i can just use this small iphone app here on the side of my tasks between projects. You know an and it's good. So i think you know again. The divers diversity diversity for everyone like you know just end just more choice. And i think just convenience. Yeah i'm really curious to see this. Chrome os was probably the first ones to come out of the gate and and establish this idea of bringing android applications to the chrome os environment to a desktop environment Now windows came out and partnered with samsung to be able to start bringing samsung again android applications to the desktop environment. Here now with apple doing it and will likely do it in They'll say they invented but Gym i don't understand your point but they they will do it i. I believe in. Probably a very cohesive way. And i'm very much looking to play with this. Because this is a real a i think this is a real productivity game changer. And there aren't there are Few there are very few of these that i've ever kind of noted as game changers Just not to be too cliche but the idea here is is really powerful and i want people to kind of just start thinking about that if you are in the up You no longer have to choose an either or proposition You can say. I want to use this and and that means that in many development environments where you have smaller developers who are producing Companion apps now you have the ability to do those and to the effect that maybe you do want a lesser feature rich application in your environment because it focuses you on things So you know there may be opportunities here where you're saying okay. Well i don't want the full fledged app on my desktop. I just want the lightweight. One so that i can focus on just these things So i can see there being some productivity opportunities there. They're not just limited to. Oh i want different. I'm kind of form factor ish size I i want. I want different features with different applications. I'm curious how that will work out in the end. Talk to me about this. Universal ecosystem where they're basically binding and apple silicon and intel based native binary version. What what what's going on there. And they they noted the omni group in adobe was adobe that that both were releasing these applications kind of initially among among their other developers. What does this mean for people going forward. I'm how universal app so basically the idea is that when you compile the application you compile them for both systems at a time so so basically two apps in one you know there was this young icon so you have both already compiled so just. You're you're operating system depending on your chip on just one or the other this way. There is no simulation there was no emulation. There is no you know something in between and you know no no no no no no medium person there in the middle. It just launches The this up so for it's really important because this way once you have an up ready for this a you know every customer that download this app from the mac for the same experience. It's a native up for them. So for example my on my old i- amac. It will be an intel based up and will work natively but on on the new m one my book air launch the other one and it will be native will be fast it will just use all of these new technologies all of this course and stuff so this is something again developers have to prepare for. That's why they highlighted new group. That's already doing this. New group is very very well known. Great mock. You know house powerhouse. M the adobe has to take more time that's why they said they said you know in the beginning of next year because they have to make adjustments and we have to do the same thing when we will be preparing they'll be personal and be teams binary choice for this in the beginning of next because there are quite a few changes that we have to do to adjust to these frameworks and stuff so there is some some on the code level. You have to have is not gonna settings and clicks yet cold level. You have to adjust some of the stuff to make sure that it compiles well for the for the m one so that's why it takes more time developers and that's why they can be ready because they're apple. They're just use their own absolutes fine. Although i'm sure that some of them their ops are are still not fully compiled too. Because you know they might not have made it but you know we developers have to work a little bit on this but you know once we do you know we can bring the same experience to everywhere now. I think this is going to be really important. Powerful for people to know which is that the developers that you know entrust are using be basically create universal apps so that you are able to have the same experience across a legacy max and a new m one chipped max and And then we go onto Rosetta to alluded to this a little bit earlier. I think it's Bears kind of Discussing which is that if you have a map. That is intel based It's supposed to run intel based and we you now want to use that application on apple silicon based chips or apple. Silicon chips On those max you will be. You'll still be able to because of rosetta to and so talk to me a little about the history here because we have resented one when they went from the former what was it Power that power pc to to them. The intel chip that transition required them to have to create the software in the first place. So they've created now this next transition What are your thoughts there as apple users about using legacy intel based software on the apple silicon. I'm sure my memories much kind of right now. That what it was when we use rosetta one. But i don't remember. I remember that must of the applications were. Okay unreset one and you get the other thing bouncing on the screen. You knew reseda. But i don't remember for must again most of the applications in work well and it was a nut such a long or painful transition Developers when this isn't quick even on those times we're getting higher word store. Software was challenging. The let me remind you that was a time of the twenty eight or fifty six k. If you're if you're lucky you have six k. And you were trying to unload the update and after you have three or four hours loading the thing that i ninety eight ninety two art. But i don't remember the rosetta one is being about things. I'm really not expecting that. We're going to see a lot of pain Was rosetta to again. That's maybe by pink glass right now. No not really because We we did a few quite a few apps on our developer kit. So the one that we got from apple we bought from apple anyway So what happened there. Even on the slow processor lots of apps were working predefine. Like the make it was i remember. I was pretty surprised. They just launched and it was fine and also again going back to the developers. The developers just decide not to do extra work to have the universal app because there was at that to apple just work so well that it would just be for them. You know like additional twenty thirty hours of work not worth it because the app is fine. It works great like there was no needs to to port because it just mom works fast anyway so so they will just not do it so so on the other hand. that's great. That was that so fast on the other. Of course you would want to have pure native apps as a customer but very often. I think you will not see the difference which is good yup. I'm really curious about whether or not that becomes a selling point. I mean i don't have the rose colored glasses regarding rosetta one. I remember the again. I was supporting Lawyers in law firm environment and having a max running certain Basically power pc based software now on these new intel chips There was a lot of headache and heartache and long hours in supporting those but Because we saw an immediate hit and there were there. Were some issues there. But that being the case I think rosetta to even To craig's note about this which is that he's seeing some of these intel based applications Running faster on rosetta to than on their intel counterparts. So that's really great to see what i'm curious about. Though is that you know there was an there was an argument that developers could make back. Then which is hey. We develop native applications for these intel chips. Will you be able to do that with m one and apple silicon when you know some of these older applications are running just as well or better on You know using rosetta too. So i'm a little bit. I again something to pay attention to something. Let's see looking forward to seeing again. john Tyrannus then turns the turns it over to Laura matt's back product line manager and this was to announce the first new macbook air Slow your thoughts there about the new macbook air listening. It was a it was a heart emoji. Look i before. I switched to the dark side of the ipod. i was macbook air lover. Like i like. I was when i win the announced vanilla this envelope and stuff. When when steve jobs and i was the first macbook air. I fell in love with this. And i did everything i could to end my money to to one with ssd. I remember. i bought. I used one at the end of the year and i fell in love with it was underpowered. It had some issues with some cars dropping in all that stuff it was. It was a pain. The butt machine. But i loved it. It was just glorious gorgeous. It was is it like. It's i love it so now am because in the meantime i mean they kept up a macbook air I mean they finally bumped it to reasonable computer very good computer but later at they waited too long for the retina transition to have the retina screen on it so it was kind of annoying and the new one with us screen had the crappy keyboard. Which was another problem of apple's so we shouldn't forget that that that they had this. You know problem with keyboards for three years. Running and claiming that the keyboard is fine only affect some users and but now this new macbook air with the supervisor m one with the normal keyboard with a good keyboard with no fan at all. This is a glorious machine. This is something to get like. You know like hands down. This is the While this is the machine to get if you are in a market for a new laptop this is do unto get like. i'm sure for most of the users. The power in this found this machine an eighteen hours of productivity. No power codes cards. Just you know carrying it around without the power brick at all fantastic fantastic keyword west only to certain users a users trying to use the keyword and and you know like we type so much you know my my daughter definition of my job as ceo of my dad. Roy rides random things on the internet. So this is what this is my official definition so like i write random stuff on the internet so to write random stuff. I need a good keyboard. So andhra theory needs to meet dictate everything type. Oh yeah but with my polish accent it. It doesn't work out. I think that's fantastic okay. So i've been showing onscreen some of the pieces here Just a couple of notable items. They they had here in a little bit. This is repeating. What what. Michael just noted here but they said it's a three point five x that three point five times faster. Cpu five x faster and gpu To x factor s to it yet to x faster Ssd so the so up to two terabytes of ssd storage. And it's two times faster. I'm that's that's remarkable. i'll get them that They the it comes with a silent design. Basically no fan. Fifteen hours of wireless web browsing eighteen hours of video playback on a single charge and while gives you then to The battery life on video. Call also really remarkable because so many of us are spending so much time on video calls today. And i'm sure that's only gonna accelerate now Even after the pandemic is over a touch. Id already talked about the lack of faith. I d then. I couldn't quite get the specs in terms of the ports on it I'm guessing they'll show us the ports on on this but i saw at least two thunderbolt. Us before ports on one side of the macbook air with their other things on the other side outside of the power cord. And i'm guessing it's mag safe So i'm not sure but it does use apple pay which is really nice with the touch. Id so you can make passwords and you can also password protect documents using touch id. That is something that i did know. Documents they also answer. Your question now from one side has to thunderball jobs before the other side has a headphone okay. So three point five millimeter headphone jack. On the other side so that those are the three ports on the outside of it It is supporting wifi. Six which is great Looking forward to seeing on how the wifi six works on those devices are at great so that is the macbook air. I i will note that one of the things that i found to be Kind of. I don't know if it's if it's right to to make this argument but no touchscreen like i'm really curious why no touchscreen on these devices. I think the the main thing again is that they rushed to produce these laptops without making too many changes. And this will be a dramatic change to have the touchscreen and a big sur is already kind of ready for this to be able to touch it like when you look at big sur. Les of things have been bigger. You know as a top target. So i think this will be the problem with that with the screen on on on the laptop like this. It's very wobbly like you. Don't just touching on. This is not really. It's very thin. It's too thin. And of course you know. You know steve jobs the john f you know make it thinner thinner and as he comes in so of course. And that's why. I think they will have to rethink the form factor. Because if they want to put the face idea if they wanna put a better in come than the seventeen twenty p front facing camera. And if you wanna put the touchscreen touchscreen it will be sturdier it will have they will have to be a different hinch and it will have to be thicker like there is no other way to go. So i think it's a complete rethink form factor and this is something on the apple could do this. This is something apple can do later. They need time for this this. They did they were not ready. They had to. They wanted to rush with the latest processors. They didn't do anything else. So there's lots but the process of the m one. I'm sure it's capable of doing this. So it's just a question of not wired yet. So i think you just have to be patient and wait a year or two and there's an argument that they're trying to keep Their ipad sales up and you know That will eat into their cannibalized their on their ipad sales to some extent. I'm not sh- damaged as they think it will. I think it will be welcome for me. Because as i'm using all of my devices i am used to touching all the screens and then i get to my mac book and it does not and it is frustrating and that is not the experience or the brand. That apple has designed so i. I'm really anybody who has kids knows that kids are used to touch screens everywhere. They even touch. None of the big television sets and are disappointed that nothing happens so yeah this is. This is this has to happen. This is inevitable. they're trying to defend. The you know the optimum usability aspect or you know a economics but it's coming but you made a great point on the thin and the form factor. Because i i know people who don't like to make sure i but a semaine machine nut from a capability perspective but from the fact that they delap to being the heavy part on the bottom instead of screen make them better for their work style. So that's a really interesting point to to consider you know. I'm not saying i also wanted some so used to the touchscreen but but i understand that and i understand that you make it that way you may need to make it thicker therefore you may need to make the bottom. He heavier so that gets into a challenging balance. My complain was this is as you love that on. You talk with that i on capable macbook air with so much love. I talk about my macbook air. Eleven inch was the same love. Then the reason macbook is so old is because i cannot upgrade the macbook. Air eleven inch to an. You're thin again. They discontinue that size. I understand that size is the nightmare of every developer web developer because so but it is such an awesome machine and i will have loved to seem a more compact factor than thirteen inch We the screens. We know what they have done it on the. But i wish i know it's this is on my wishful listing. Maybe under that touchscreen team. Kate i wish i will come was a small factor super compact laptop. I it was seven and keep on wishing you're got to keep on wishing i book air eleven inch i. I really did like it for just like quick to run out to the cafe and do a little bit of work kind of thing. I wasn't great for long amounts of work And which is why. I think Something more like an ipad pro twelve inch. You're gonna get a nicer experience to do longer. Form work If you're gonna go out and do some some work. I think this thirteen inch macbook air. is kind of the right size for that kind of work. I do like the ability that it could like almost fit. You know like anything you know. Just a little small satchel. You can throw through the eleven inch in and go from there. I'll note that the macbook. Air the new mac book air. This thirteen inch is gonna come out at nine nine thousand nine. Usd and that'll be available on eleven biting a chomping at the bit to go ahead and order an- and have that available. Okay moving along John Tyrannus then turns us over to an introduction of the new mac mini Which i was actually looking forward to. I was hoping that they would announce a new mac mini For my own needs. But then he turns it over to. Julia brahms senior manager of hardware engineering. And again i noted this in the last show. But i'm really. I'm glad that they keep turning this over to people who are are on these teams who are using the tools and helping develop these these products and really doing a great job of upbringing that personality out and the diversity there. So what did you hear about the mac mini. What you think about the new mac again now. My laptop guy. An ipad guy actually not even a laptop die anymore. But i think for a lot of people is school. This is what they need is still. The factories are still incredible. And honestly on michael mentioned it. I did not thought about the form factors and the hurry and tried to make it faster and why they didn't change or introduce any change on those high words. I i did not consider that or thought about that idea until you mentioned it. But i don't know if that mike many needs really any change. The form factor. It's a classic it's works really well and define that you now. Connect to a seeks k. Monitor i i understand. I live from my. But i don't know the stand what i six k. Monetary that's above my pay grade. I you know. I it's trouble. Imagine four k so going to six gay now that above anything. I can't imagine on what that will especially the six game monitor cost five grant and the the only the leg to stand of the minor coast one thousand dollars which is four hundred now. Three hundred dollars. More than the mac mini so they basically could sell the the the new six k. Screen with a mac mini for free. Like you just throw it. They're like as an afterthought basically but i am a the the is funny that mcmenamy it at a time when it'd be it had no love. It was just completely not negated by apple. For like four years. I think are more. And then suddenly they upgraded it to enter the this intel and this is actually the machine that we recently got for our company because we need a mac mini server so this way we can compile our apps on this server without compiling it internally on our computers so we use a mac mini a lot on our our team. But as you said this is a great entry level. Mac and i think they realized that they realized how many people who are just budget constraint. And have when you talk. They just wanna have they have mac so they just by six ninety nine. A computer without you know spending nine ninety nine which is a great price point for the air. So i think it's a it's a great move by to just you know democratic max like just to be able to give maximum two more people i wanna have. I wanna have a test and hit. This is an expensive it allows me to. You know. I'm gonna. I'm looking at either the air or the or the pro which will talk about next As being kind of the travel laptop on the go And now i have my chromebook of choice. I have my macbook pro or macbook of choice. I'm gonna take on the road. Once i go back to traveling for work right now I traveled all no distance to go to work But the idea here is that this fits i in my desk setup. I'm i have now the ability to just tuck. The mac mini underneath the desk. Get a kvm switch. I have a you know a nice You know tool to be able to do testing and especially since i test a lot of software. I wanna make sure that it works on on various devices. This is a great Tool it comes with ethernet. Which is really really. I think. Important imperative for me It has to thunderbolt. Us before ports on the back Hdmi two point. Oh so says comes with an hd report on the back and then To usb as so it's to deal with some legacy issues and thirty three point five millimeter headphone jack. So really good set of of cabling available to it also. Why five six. Kp rate right out of the box just capable plopping down plugging it in and connecting To the web there. And i also see this as a as a great option for just having it as a file server. You know having it to sit there and and kind of capture all the things you could put terabytes on it and you're good to go so i was very pleased to see the mac mini. Get some love and attention and coming onto the market and we have took here before there is a little kim called the lunar display so the lunar display will most likely work with this machine. So you can get that thing with the lunar display on the bank and now turn your ipad into the main monitor for that headless back The sorry magni that will make it really really also. That's it's on my sentence. That's coming out at six ninety nine. Usd and again will be And that brings us now to kind of switch it up. They went macbook. Air mac mini and now over to the macbook pro. And what they're i'm presuming hoping as their biggest seller. I'm not sure maybe there's arguing that this not be their biggest seller. But i think that it will John tiernan terms of albertus schutte haldia. Who's their mac product line manager and they announced the new macbook pro and So what did you think about the new mac book pro. No my first comment to that. Was i again. I did not think about this. It was well. The specs are really so close to the macbook air. You know unless you're doing a lotta rendering and videos and stuff. It makes no no sense to get other than quiet machine so i'm curious to hear from both of you. What what why will be the argument. I mean obviously the difference in price is not necessarily a big difference is two hundred bucks. Not really a big deal. But if you can get your not doing rendering you're not doing heavy graphics. The mike book air seems to me will be plenty On more than enough of a machine. So i'm curious to hear what you guys think about the different sundays being the same chipset again understanding the ns. Michael said previously you know. Hey they came and they do it quick so they didn't touch the specs or any of that they just wanted to have this first machines out yet so. I'm just taking the specs this way. I was looking looking away because for me. One of the arguments for the macbook air r lack of fan. So it's going to be really quiet but this again is important. The difference between the air and the pro is that if you are doing something on Something really heavy. A cpu hungry in a long period of time. You need the fan you need the cooling system because the pro will be able to keep that peak performance longer than ended and the air so it just depends on your workflow and but you know for example for the weight. I was expecting a big difference. Between and the pro but defense is negligible at two point. Eight pounds versus three pounds. So it's basically the same and it's a bit more bulk so the pro is a little bit bulkier. Because it's just the same height all over the place in zero point six inch and this one goes from zero point six to zero point one inch so it's really like the the silhouette is still there. So you know in terms of performance. I think the performance you know we'll be the same just you know longer. Performance the pro. And so i think it just depends on your preferences. Here it's the price differences. Also not that big. So i think for a normal casual user who. I am one of these. 'cause i don't compile anything i don't i don't need any longer. Performance on a long period of time apart from zoom co. So i think for zoom call now even with this crappy seven hundred twenty p camera am i would go with the air. It's going to be nicer to handle. It's going to be just smaller. Wouldn't in bulk and bulk is really important. So even if the weight in a normal terms is almost the same the perceived weight will be different. You know so. I i would. I would still go with the with the air at for like most of and bringing interesting point that i may be getting into into look to the future but the form factor. It's the decision. Okay did you like this. Form factor more snug. Really unless you do really specific things it's not anymore about performance getting air getting to pro and i think what we are going to see between the ipad pro on this. Mike brooks is exactly the same. It's not maybe in the future maybe two three years down but what we are going to cease not going to be anymore okay. I work on the. I work on the mac or i work in. This machine is what is it. Form factor that works better based on what you do. What is a form factor. The july can. What is a form factor that you were better. So i heard something. A little bit different in terms of their For the the Macbook pro macbook air. Which is that. It came with this three mic array. They are calling kinda studio quality audio So that may be the only difference in terms of the the specs there and they talked about an advanced camera. Isp which allowed for better video on the mac book pro not quite sure what that means But the but they're touting an hd camera on on the on the pro so that may be a minor difference. They're not sure. I i'll have to see them side by side to see whether or not they actually provide better Stuff on that level But you know as you said at at seven. Twenty p You'd need an external camera no matter what. If you're gonna do high def you know stuff you know. Certainly recording So you're gonna you're gonna not care about that between the two models So they're they're coming out with a twelve ninety nine. Usd starting price point And the they have an eleven Ninety nine usd version for education. So i'm guessing there's a discount for those who are maybe wise so that's nice of them to be able to do is it. Is it true that i they. They have sixty percent less energy consumption on these devices. Was that what he said about about them. It was kind of a side comment that he made As john tyrannus was kind of turning it over to To tim cook I thought that was a remarkable. They may just a minor note about about environmental impact. And and how how. These devices were really Helping to lessen their environmental impact. And i thought that was. Just think about it. Like you know the the these. These laptops can last almost twenty hours around twenty hours. Both i mean the pro bit longer and but still it's it's it's dramatic like you know you start your day with your laptop you never charge you go through the day and more and then you put the charge at night and that's it and it's still thirty forty percent like it's crazy so and for me. I always prioritize death. When i was you know when i was still in you know in early. Two thousand Choosing laptops was always wanted also at always a thin knocked up a laptop and one with lots of battery powered. That's why maxwell kind of superior to windows very often because their windows apple on three hours and max five six seven hours. So i always you know Envy and yes that you know. They had so much more power. Now is just crazy. This is crazy stuff at twenty hours. It's like nobody will work so so long on that on the laptop but it it just shows that you know you hardly ever target you just you. Just you know you just use it. And that's so cool. I'm hoping they bring a wireless charging to these laptops eventually. And that just just kind of set it on your desk charges when you want to and you walk away and you know like a nice Desktop charging pad. You could just put your your phone and your and your ipad and your laptop your mac book on on this like you know kind of desk pad and then you just lift it and go off and you never really think about powering anymore that it just becomes a natural part of the Of the ambiance right is just a part of the general area. And i think that's where we really need to get to with regard to that. Yeah so so. Let's bring the non show positive in this one and again i think on the light of what we have been discussing. Some of how fast they tried to do it. You know the pro as well as air has exactly the same reports case. Both has just to thunderbolt youth before that. I'm sure we are going to see people complaining about the interwebs supports. It has but it's what it yes. I'm finally the ecosystem of of of of docking stations. And all these peripherals is finally going up like you can have really. Great docking stations already for usb c. I have a good one ready for my ipod pro so for anyone who's complaining about the dongle gate and all that stuff i would. I was asked them to really consider finally getting proper like you kind of you know cobb where they can have the admi they can have. The was be a usb. C pass through power. Jack like all the things they can have that and it's just so much more convenient to just put your laptop on the desk and just connect one cable and that's it you're done so really like from productivity standpoint. We've always been touting this as y- that you should have as fewer. I mean you have to you have to have the you should have this whole thing set up and you just plug it in. And that's it so instead of just plugging in so many things in each time you just walk away and especially if you have a laptop that is capable of running on battery so the the moment you are on the desks plug in with one cable. And you're done. Yeah i'm definitely gonna have to look at that because just from a speed of connection and moving from mobile to desktop being able to just have a single click in and go. That's really that's really ideal. And i think that's that is a definite productivity gain on that level. I think i noted at the beginning mac. Macos big sur is available november twelfth. So if you're listening to a podcast is now available and And then tim cook and did the show. Although i guess you could argue that the pc guy and the show ended the show argue. That on us. I we ruth in this house for pc guy and there were shouts. When pc guy came up in any final thoughts regarding The one more thing event from apple. And maybe a little bit of discussion on what you think is coming down the pike After this initial set right very quickly put together and they wanted to get this out. There were excited about the one chip. What do you think is the next Or the next few things that apple is going to talk about in their next event. I'm curious to you know they lounge. From the previous event they ipad air that he's incredibly powerful all off to see what's coming for the ipad pro because if that's what they did with i air. I'm really curious. What's going to be the new ipad pro. And but i think this is great. What we're going to be able to see now is users will pay dirt device of choice but everything will be invisible have said for many years at one of the reasons i love to work in my eyes but is the fact that i can grab my thirteen inch. I can grab my iphone where i can grab my and have exactly the same productivity environment on. I consider that an asset to that way of work. I don't need to rethink what. I'm going to open her. How i'm going to work or anything. Being able to transport that also to the next hour or also to a macbook air macbook pro. I think productivity wise. It's going to be incredible. That doesn't matter. The form factor. You get all the same tools in the same configuration. We'll be ready for you right there. That will be. I think especially right now that these laptops are so powerful and so fast many developers will want to have both like an imac. So i'm looking for an imac with a m one or to processor. It's like you know this will be the only reason to attack my amec because it's still very good and my five year old mac so it's You know it will be great but with that. I think they should really reconsider like building it in the system so that you can easily replicate the system so when you have to max like the laptop and the desktop. You shouldn't have to manually configure them. You should just be able to have the same apps like you know when you don't have it shows also there and when you configure it configures the same way this way. You will not have these headaches. You know. I don't have the latest version of this program on this thing because i haven't been using it for two weeks you know it's it's it should be invisible it should. It should be really invisible. So that when you are working on your i mac pro and you wanna just going. You know your laptop with you. It has the same things so over there. I think there's still lots to be done on the software side. But we're getting closer greg rude. That is a great point. And i and i hope that all development on on that west level especially starts to pick up those pieces especially you now as i said you know chrome os and android. We're seeing more of windows and android and now. We're seeing apple's mac os in iowa and ipad os on starting to merge and And these experiences should be seamless. They should not have to be thought about able to move from one device to the other and that makes it all any final thoughts gentlemen. Yeah so my last thing again because of the form factor. They haven't done it. But i would argue that with this form factor. They could have done. It is the modern day. There is no lt connection on these devices. Which is still annoying. Because i'm sure it's it's it's it's doable especially with the new m one chip because you know one thing i love my ipad pro is that i don't think about my internet any more. I just took a put out an online like there is no. I have my backup plan. It's fine it's unlimited. Whatever it just works. I don't even ask for wifi password of the cafe. I prefer to use my four g connection so when you compare this to to having a laptop and still asking for wifi password or dithering your internet through your phone. It's still a pain you know you would want to pull out this beautiful. I am i and just be online. You know as a person who was later to adopt executive. Would you describe My first elti I but wednesday nine point seven pro. That was the first time i got that. And after i my argument before it was like instead of the phone. If i don't have internet that's fine. When that was available for me. I discovered. There was a bunch of tasks that were two minutes that i could do. Because i didn't mean to spend connecting the phone to make it happen so my productivity really went sorenson on after i never again will get on another. I bet without that an i agree if you work in laptop dodd will be simply incredible and it's possible. Pc's been doing this for a long time. Now with no henry but was dan. Chrome os has has Embrace that as well you know they. They've really done a great job of of bringing l. d. e. versions to it Plus just the in criminal west now automatically tethers to your phone. It just automatically doing the same thing on ios. Mac os does it. Does it not do that. If you're on an ipad does it. Does it automatically pair to your to your phone. I think it does a better job now. But as i'm not using it all because i'm just using the same. I have certain so long that i don't know you know. I think i think it just makes a lot of sense that you have an option where you want to have a stable internet connection That is founded on the device itself so good critique there and i and i hope apple's listening hope you're listening apple all right with that Thank you michael. 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#268  Bobby + Eddies Music School: CMA Award Facts You Didnt Know! + Why An Artist Needs A Manager with Tom Lord + Jaime Lynn Spears On Zoey 101 Reboot

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#268 Bobby + Eddies Music School: CMA Award Facts You Didnt Know! + Why An Artist Needs A Manager with Tom Lord + Jaime Lynn Spears On Zoey 101 Reboot

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Thanks student feels great to be playing Satan on this podcast and listened to Halloween in hell on iheartradio APP apple podcasts or whatever you get your podcasts on. Welcome to episode two, Sixty, eight we'll do see may award fact she didn't know. Remembering Jeff Walker. Tom Lord on what goes into artist management something you heard about we didn't know much about Jamie Lynn Spears's on this, but it's all about music. Let's start with new music this week. Here are the five that I'm like Oh, this is pretty cool. I Bush released the new album you would know them from their old song. Here's one of them, glycerin? If, you're new at the guitar. You probably learn this four chords over and over and over that are very easy to do, but they put out. The Kingdom Deluxe edition with this Song Heroes, which is a tribute to David. Bowie. It's David Bowie Song here you go. We can. Just. Before. Christmas music here bread Eldridge and Kelly Clarkson released a new Christmas duet called under the mistletoe. That keep you from getting. Worse since. The Lingo speaking of Christmas Hootie and the blowfish and special guests Abigail. Hodges released a new holiday themed track called won't be home for Christmas and number three. Talk on the. Law. Chris Nah. Goal. We have got. Will. Chris. Man Maybe. That's good. Cam has a new album called side. Here's a song. You may have heard that it's already from it called classic. And here's a brand new song called like a movie from cans new album that's out today. Stan. And a number one. I got to put our guest today Jamie Lynn Spears she released follow me. It's a reimagined version of the Zoe one, one theme song and we'll talk to her coming up. Here's a clip of that. Now not gonNA listen to this myself but I love Jamie Lynn Spears. For a long time she's back with Zoe one. Oh One and uh, she's on the podcasts so to this bag and not have her at number one. You know. Kent Moore also as an honorable mention released. announced. He's releasing wild world deluxe in February which featured his song. She's mine. Got Four new songs including one that's out. Now let's call. Don't go changing. Bars albums go why not a judge put out her recollections EP five new songs. Arianna grind has a new album called positions. Elvis. Costello has a new album, Goo goo dolls. It's Christmas all over the Goo Goo dolls back s Christmas. It'd be like early two thousands, Christmas I guess. Yeah. Like it's a two thousand, one Christmas but the Goo Goo dolls. Tori Kelly has a Christmas album Joni Mitchell has archives volume one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, three to nine, hundred, sixty, seven. There's a Stevie Nicks live in concert out today Sam Smith Meghan trainor has very Meghan trainor Christmas. Very trainer Christmas. So a lot of Christmas stuff coming out now. As far as news goes. Billy Joe Shaver pioneer about law country dead at eighty one. I was a big Joe Shaver Fan. My I love lift forever as one of my time. Lag The song. I love live forever as like a top twenty, five song for me. Now. Village of Shaver died of a stroke Waco Texas essential in Providence. Hospital. If you loved Texas country you love Billy Joe Shaver. He rose to further prominence after Kris, Kristofferson recorded the song good Christian soldier. He wrote stuff you know live forever highwaymen nineteen ninety-five other numbers, Elvis Dave, co patty loveless Doug Kershaw Johnny paycheck just so many people he wrote for but. Yeah that sad. Jerry Jeff Walker and. Billy Joe Shaver we'll talk about Jerry Jeff Walker later on Yup. Whitney. Houston's I. Always Love You hit one billion views on youtube. For. The B. Billion. There will be an Eddie Van Halen tribute during the rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Special. The number one song in the country. This week is mood by twenty four K. golden always in bloom. Play. I just know from Tiktok, I was listening to the partition the day on four songs in a row Kale's with me. She was like I can tell when you've been on Tiktok all songs. Otherwise I want to know any of them. and. Then ACDC, fireworks to find the latest monster about this. I do tell me about it I think they were all drunk on tour and let's try to get the monster out. They fired out a bunch of fireworks expect nothing less All right. There you go. Ob Enjoy this one that you new music. Thank you guess. Bobby Music School is now in session. The morning. Eddie, how are you? I'm great bones. Are you pretty good we're GonNa talk about with me. My first one is the CNA award facts. You may not know here we go. It's coming up so Let's see here. It's what from the recording of redoing where two weeks out but I think people were here this it'd be about a week and a half hour. From the awards. Entertainer of the year that's the big one. The history of the I see a entertainer of the year since we'll talk about it with Tom Lord coming up in a second. The very first see awards took place in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, seven, which means this year the Country Music Association will crown it's fifty four entertainer of the year but which artists do you think was first to take home this? Prestigious Award Fifty Fourth Hank Williams. Guess. The honor belongs to Eddy, Arnold Oak a pioneer of the Nashville sound nickname the Tennessee plow boy arnold had one, hundred, forty, five songs make the country chartering sixty year career twenty, eight went number one. That fee puts them second only who do think for most songs on the chart country country. Johnny cash again. Solid. But no, you're wrong. George Jones. He was inducted into the country music fame in nineteen, sixty, six and died in two, thousand, eight some of his number ones include from Eddy Arnold, this is it's a sin. Mind Paulo. Calls On. No. Never be. His another one called cattle call. Is. This. Some cash. And one final one makes the world go away. Those. The only one I know of those three Demi too. And I like to think I'm pretty similar when it comes to history. If I'm just being honest I didn't know the first two but I remember Eddy Arnold with the first kind of sound that you play the first song with more little more country swing. That's how I remember Eddy. Arnold but I, do remember the song Do you. Can you picture Eddie Arnold in your head? Yes. With a lot of glitter what looks like, yeah. But big big tall gallon what they call a ten gallon cowboy hat and a lot of glitter or rhinestones on a suit is that accurate? The Eddy Arnold icy? Old Eddy Arnold had a big hat. Yes. Let's talk about the origin of the trophy the. Trophy designed like the like at Chart Boehlert. And is made from a crystal imported from Florence Italy because it's kind of like this, yes? Oh, volley sharp it's gladden. Originally. Made from Walnut. A shortage of the would supply in nineteen ninety-three led to the crystal design that have any would. So they made it nicer. Crazy I. It's been a Nashville every year since two, thousand five. It was only at Madison Square Garden in New York City one time. The twenty two, thousand words November eleventh will air live from Nashville on ABC do the virus. The show we hosted Nashville's music city center, not Bridgestone Arena, which is customary. There will be no live audience. There will be some people there though I'm a part of the show I can't announce it yet. I got hooked hosted it then get that job this year. Like I was in the running thing it's the second. But. There'll be people in the audience, but it won't be a normal crowd i. think it's just going to be people that may be up for awards. A part of the show I chose not to I'm not going to sit in the crowd. I'm going to go and walk back door not be around anyone just get out like the ACM. Stay safe from. The first female, a entertainer of the year who do you think that was? It's tough I'm asking you. Crazy. To the Loretta Lynn? Correct. Yes. Got One. Got It. Yeah. Here's a hook of Coal Miner's daughter from Loretta Lynn. Here you go. Hundred. Only six other female performers have won the award. Can you name any of them? Dolly. Well only have dixie chicks Taylor. Swift thought they would all be less than. Maybe dollars in there, I don't know. Garth Brooks and Kenny. Chesney. finally, Eric Church Luke Combs Miranda Lambert Carrie Underwood, and Keith urban this year. Now, I remember reading a while back that you know some article that was differentiating the ACM's in the. Is it accurate to say that as were was the Nashville award show completely accurate because they see us for California West Coast country, right? Yeah and that's why the show is always in Los Angeles it was in Nashville this year because of krona virus and all the artists aren't going to travel. But yes, that was California West Coast country how Vegas is where the Heaven Yeah Yeah West Coast. Crazy, I didn't realize. Los Angeles a few times started in Los Angeles a brick wall. That is my version music school Eddie over to you. All right. So we're remembering Jerry Jeff Walker at age seventy eight he lost his battle to throat cancer and man he he just really was the soundtrack of my high school years my college years and I love Jerry Jeff and one of the cool things is just Kinda gone through instagram and seeing the artists that posted about his death and a Jimmy. Buffett was one of the ones that have stuck out to me because if it wasn't for Jerry Jeff Cool little factoid. Jerry. Wasn't for Jerry Jeff taken him to key west Jimmy would have never really found that beach sound he was looking for wow. It was Jerry Jeff that drove him to Key West for the first time and and he jimmy ended up loving it and staying there and writing songs there which became kind of the the background of his beach sound if you want to call it that but but that's pretty cool and also to just kind of grown up in in Texas my whole Life Jerry Jeff was the godfather of Texas country you know and it's cool to. kind of know where he came from because Y- these artists you know as the sound like I just said Jimmy Buffett right but but Jerry? Jeff started in Newark. He's a New Yorker and he started there in the nineteen sixties in the Greenwich Village Sound. So with Dylan Dave van rank, you know those folksingers that's what Jerry wanted to be changed his name changes name completely that's where he changed his name. So coming to Texas he's like, no, no, no this is who I am. This is how this war I feel very comfortable and started that Texas country sound. Pretty cool. Man and I think we all know him from Mr. Bojangles Don't know that he wrote that because the Bob Dylan version to me was the one that most people know do you remember the Nitty Gritty version nitty-gritty Durham I don't I feel like I again no way. But I, don't remember like I know it now but I didn't know what from day. Yeah. That's that's kind of where I come from to is like I do remember hearing that I don't remember who I knew it from. But bojangles to me was a very famous song but I never knew who did it it all sounds like it was something that Bob Dylan did. So I do remember him singing that. But once again, high school when I got the the. CD Jerry. Jeff to singing Mr bojangles researching where did this come from the yeah it's Jerry. Jeff Song. This is his song wrote it back in New Orleans from being I guess he got arrested for public intoxication got thrown in jail and New Orleans ended up meeting this guy who was home student is dog and he's telling stories of his dog and how he died and all this stuff but he would dance in the jail cell. So he wrote Mr Roads Angles because of that pretty cool. Other clips we have singer wine. These are kind of I, my top three Jerry Jeff Singer wines. Sangria. SANGRE. Got Getting by also picked these songs because these are written by Jerry. Not In know him personally. But I, felt by listening to get in by that this kind of how he lived his life just one day at a time getting by. Living my life easy come easy go and that to me really. Hit Me. You know when I was to it the weekend that he died. But getting by Mantis takes me back. To win was this before you. Know just listening. Hanging out my buddies, we would just have parties and just blared Jerry Jeff Walker I. don't even know when this report is an older song. Seventies. Okay When I said that I was like you know what I could be wrong and Lucan Bach to is you know that was this is where he recorded a lot of these songs not really with the crowd but just to go to Luke Inbox, take the tour bus and just go record album they're pretty cool I. Mean you go very jeff man and peace but like you always say it's so cool that we're gonNA have music for the rest of our lives and then lives to come for sure and that is bobby he's music school. Was At ease music. School. Board Games I, like to think of myself as the game guy I mean listen to the show we play games I love the company USA awfully also known as the they make the best board games like the Hilarious telestrator game that we love around here that I've talked about a bunch. Well, they got a new alcohol telestrator upside drawn. 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Mostly It's mostly me griping about but in in a loving way 'cause I know I make more than fifteen percent fifteen percent I pay. So I wanted to bring in Tom Lord of Red Light Management. What. Is Your overarching title there? Well, we don't have official titles, but I'll tell you my role which is basically describing the title. I was brought in from universal music. Group I was a record label guy came into management about seven years ago to help build the marketing department. So as head of marketing. For our Nashville Office in the net sort of his evolved in there are a handful of us that run the office and help coroner who that's a name will probably say in this podcast a couple of times. help corn, who is the head of the company run the Nashville Office, and that's some of the. Basic logistical things of the office office maintenance. It's hirings and firings if necessary and just kind of general maintenance of the management team in Nashville and then Management roles as well. So I have a couple artists that I sort of have under my supervision from a manager role and full transparency I am one of them. So as the raging idiots, which is one and the same except not Gabby Barrett York with Gabby I mean I worked with Gabby four years ago Yup. I remember those conversations like Okay Gabby. Let's get her and the early early ones, and then watch and you were so instrumental in her even landing a record deal. Yeah. So before we get to that specifically like why in the world would someone need to manager because most folks don't even know what someone gets a big gives a speech and like all I think our manager, we roll our eyes what that means. Well, that's what I was GonNa say this podcast may be your least consumed podcast because I'm not sure people really know what management is or have any interest but I do think it's important. It's definitely a big part of this industry. The biggest for me it's massive for what I do and it's not something. I. Talk About because I'm not a barest of it or I don't think people are interested but it's just so in the we yes. But that's what this podcast is. Yes. So why in the world? What somebody to manager? For the best way to describe it as put it as an analogy for running a business, the artist is the chairman of a business that's your business. In your case, you have a business that you need to run, and that includes for us. Specifically, it's touring it's merchandise it's philanthropic efforts. It's a personal appearances it's. publishing book deals. It's You know wavy radio everything you know and so you know with. Your need to be creatively involved on all those in all of those facets of your, business. You need somebody to help run your business you're the chairman and where you're president of the company. So we help run the PR departments and Finance Department and Merchandise Department the Philanthropic Department merchandise, the the whole ball of wax. So we just our job is to make sure all of the pieces of the business are connected and that are working and help execute your goals. That's what a manager does. and you know we're in the weeds with everything. You know when we try to keep the artist out of the weeds but all of it is with their direction and we come at you know in the case with you if there's anything that comes up. We don't sign off on unless we know that something that you would sign off on or we we come to you and ask specifically for yes or no on certain things so that that's really the role of the manager of that answers that right with Gaddi like. What are you deal with day to day with? A she's got a number one song, but a pretty new artist and country music because I would imagine that's different than someone who has been around for a bit. So what is it with? Gabby process that you're dealing with right now. I'll start with when when I first started working with Gabby, what that role was, and then kind of where it is today when I first started working with. Gabby. Just. Even pretty basic education about Nashville on them in the music business because that's the other thing I. think a manager is important for for an artist is an artist generally walks into becoming an artist or you know sort of declares that they're going to become an artist, but they don't know the fastest of business they don't know the avenue they don't have the roadmap to be able to navigate a label conversation in a publisher conversation who's the right merchandise person or the booking agency who are the right people at any to talk to so. That is what the experience of the manager has and helps bring to the table for an artist and that was for the case with Gabby. You're in the case with Gabby early on, she came out of American idol and that is an amazing platform. As you know in an are deeply involved with it's amazing platform to build an audience, but it doesn't necessarily guarantee you the record deal and the publishing deal or merchandise deal or the get on a tour, etc, and so. When Gaby I came idol. As mature, she was for her age and she a vital and she was nineteen years old You know she needed some education on how Nashville works and so I like the first part of my job with her. Was sort of setting the tone for hey, here's the reality of the situation became an amazing TV show. Gave you a great platform. But. No labels are jumping. You know to to sign you in. So now what we have to do is prove it to them, and so it was helping set the I think the roadmap for building a reputation outside a vital building, a reputation as an artist in the towns starting to be part of the community. So that was a big part of it then and then it was with her navigating with nineteen entertainment who is also part of the American idol family who was a part of the mix, but they're not necessarily part of the Nashville Community that we navigate releasing her song I. Hope Without a major label deal. And that was where. My role as a marketer and also manager came into strong play with her to help of work with the DSP's which the digital partners it's the spotify, the apples that Pandora's and Amazon's to make sure that they knew this artist was coming that they knew who she was what what she was about finding a PR person you know sort of building the team i. think that was a big part of building the team was another part of the early roles. And then we get the major label deal and then it's you know then we released the single out to terrestrial radio in it. It has done tremendously, well So my role I would say has evolved from when we first started working together today I think today the role of my job with Gabby, and we have a lot of conversations. About it is you know she understands that we've had a a a an amazing for step and we're having a moment is sort of this by cliche thing that I say i. say it in almost every meeting we're in is that you know we're having a moment but we need to make movement. So that is now how do we navigate from? The I hope artist into an artist that has you repeated success and and so we're trying to you know listen as we never you know sort of look a gift horse mouth here but you know with the success that we're having with I hope in continue to have. I'm trying to move past in in a Lotta ways to say, Hey, look at this song and it's the good ones. That's our next thing on. So my job now was trying to change the spotlight a bit. Let's enjoy the spotlight that we've got with with with I hope but let's try to shift the spotlight to show the success that we're haven't with the good ones because we know we need to move from this moment to be a maturation that's executive with an artist like Chris. Johnson who I know you're involved with Chris Kelly Kelly's manager's wife, and you're also involved in in Chris because he's at red light as well. Obviously he's a lot older had been around a lot longer. Had Been Nashville way before you got involved with Chris. So how is that different situationally with Chris than with Gabby? The approach is very different. You know with Gabby it is you're building a introduction. It's first impression that you're trying to build and that has a strategy to it. You only have the one time to make first impression as as they say, and you know, and so for her it's building the right first impressions for Chris. There's at least some history there that you're able to jump into that as an because Chris had previous management, and as you said, had different record deals and when he came over to red light and so what we're able to do in that case is sort of look at the history. Okay. Let's look at what you have done, and now you've already made an impression in the marketplace and is there anything with that impression that we need to change? We need to evolve that? Do we need to grow that and I think? and I think it's Ok to say this because it was it was definitely my strategy with I working with Chris and that was kind of building. Against sort of repeatable success because I think there was a impression with Chris that he was the. Surprise hitmaker with by me a boat and the reason I say surprise at maker with by me about because he had a couple of record deals and at some point in this industry, love it or hate it. Sometimes, the industry turns out laughter you've had a couple of record deals you've sort of lost your opportunity. And Chris. released by me about independently this is even before signing with Warner released by me boat in it just with the help of Bobby Brown show plug to get that plug. With the help of bobby bones and the bobby bones show. Put. Him Back on the map. And so that became a surprise hit and then all the sudden record labels are crawling again and so. He was having success, but it wasn't. He wasn't able to replicate necessarily the success of by me about after that song come out and so as I talked about with Gabby sort of trying to find that repeatability. With Chris that was the strategy when we first started working together it's like we need to prove Chris we know you've got the talent we can hear the songs we hear it in the record we know your time we know what you can do on stage but now we need the town to see more than by me about and I think there I would put Chris and Gabby almost in the same category as that there that first major hit that they both had in Chris's case by me about. In, Gabby case I hope they. Those songs will always follow them around It is hard when you have a song that is so big. That is really the first big hit for an artist That will follow you around for your career and you just. The jobs never to try to. Repeat. That exact song success but you've got to then evolve from it and I think from Chris that was the case it's like we got to show people that you're more than that and since then he's and this is all on him because he's the songwriter and only songs but it's fixed a drink and it's good vibes and it's drunk girl It's done. Now wait on five's the current single. He is now repeated success. I think the strategy changed with you know it was different when I started working with Chris versus working with Gabby and so I think that's how it was different progress. If, there are a lot of artists that listen to this podcast because we do go on the weeds at times with publishing now with management. Obviously. Sometimes I like how the heck do I get a manager And and my answer is always. The same one anyone's asking, how do I do anything? It's places you can be, and hopefully you catch someone's eye. That's just my general answer because I know that's not wrong. May Not be right but it's not wrong. So as someone who is pretty high up at the biggest management company in town, I'm assuming red lights bigger than it is right. It's the biggest independent management company I think in the world the way that's in it set up and I think from a from a number of staff artist probably the biggest. So how does one that's unmanaged gay manager? Man So many avenues for that. You know if you're an aspiring artist and you're listening to this and you want to say man, how do I find a manager You know managers come in different shapes and sizes I tell you the role of the manager is somebody that you can really trust and I hate to say that anybody can be a manager but to a certain extent. There are a lot of people in our listened to the podcast. Actually my prep-work coming into today was listening to the podcast with Kerry Edwards. She wasn't a manager when she first started working with Luke, but she was somebody that believed in Luke. And Luke trusted and they had built a report together and you know just found that sort of synergy to lean on each other and. You look at this success that they've had, and she is his manager still today from the day one but she didn't start that way. She was the publisher and prior to that she was at a record company and So I think you can find a manager in anybody but It that you trust and you build a relationship with. But you know I think from my perspective, we serve recommendations for mortars from attorneys from publishers from record companies You know we get recommendations a lot. That's how we find artists mostly is from the publishing community or from the booking agents that have seen an artist out on the road if you're an artist and you haven't necessarily built those relationships. I to be honest with you I don't know that you need managers probably not the first movie that you need to make. You don't need to go hey, I need to get a manager and then I can build everybody I. Think probably you start with if you're songwriter starting the songwriting community and you build your relationships with the PR rose and that's a BMI are as Kaposi's see sack and then they helped develop and build relationships into the publishing community. And then when she built in the publishing community that starts to build out your team, and that's where a manager really is a valuable part of the team. It's probably not the first team member you have in most cases It's when you're at a level where you're ready to go in the marketplace and you've got gotta make some of those decisions and pitch to the labels in in. kind of make the touring moves that I think the is probably the most important. Component of your team at that point but the shift, the question just a bit. How in the world do you get to be a manager because again we have those people who were working. Entry level jobs or their or their don't want to do it anymore and who maybe had it busted through like, Hey, I think it's one of manage people may come to you like how do people become a manager? At I think what makes you a good manager is experience in something? Well, there's where I was going to go with it I think in something I mean I think this is such a small town in some ways I'm GonNa say it in town is referring to Nashville mostly is that it's just such a small community people and we all learn from each other. We all work really well together and we all get along for the most part I. Think it's fair to say You know it's finding the avenue that You know where you're passionate about in some cases it's in the surrounding community and you're working in the publishing world and you decide you want to make a move into management. Then you find that artists that you really want to work with you find. And I encourage people if they're in high school or College you know find that local talent in work with them and try to help them learn as you go. It's experience for the most part that really. Gives, you the credentials become a manager I'll tell you for me. What I think makes me good at my job and management is that I have been in this industry a long time and the grey hairs are showing it But for me I was in the marketing department at a record company, and that's where I learned about radio and that's when I learned about sort of branding and working with artists in knowing the sort of the nuances of the artist and And I think for me, that's given me a broad scope of the industry as a whole that makes me I think valuable of the management team is knowing already the nuances of the labels in decisions that need to be made there. So I think it's really grinding it out in the industry from US part I do think there are a lot of people that wave their hands when they come out of college they say I WanNa be a manager and they just they start working with artists but they just don't know. The as I said roadmap earlier, they don't read the roadmap, and so they're just to figure out as they go in. You. Know I was lucky enough going to Belmont I went to Belmont University and I'm majoring in music business and I did internships jumped into the world. I think Mike D. a WHO's sitting at the table with us. Here is a glowing example of it. You know you just gotTa get involved you know and and as soon as you can if you if you want to be. A management it's it's getting an internship working in the management community and learning and just growing, and then you become an assistant within the management community. Then you become a day to day management means you're basically you're handling the calendar and you're making sure that the the days and the minutes are being taken care of them that the artists where they need to be and then. You kind of grow into a more strict strategic manager and become a manager and have a roster of your own But it's time and experience, and that's a long answered your question. But I think sort of helps illustrate. It's just it's time inexperience mostly that makes you a good manager. You're doing marketing universal you leave to go to red light to be the the marketing guy there as well. When did you go ahead I? Think I'll want to. Get my hands dirty and actually work with an and who was the first artist that you actually were in with where you are making decisions for them specifically. Well I when I came over to red light, I did not necessarily have designs to be a manager I was looking for a new opportunity. I'd been in a record company business for going on twenty years at that point started at. A small company in town called rising tide when I was finishing at Belmont but I was working there basically fulltime work there for a couple years and then I went over to. Me Records and I'd seen. The sort of the the change of the industry and at that point napster at hit that again dates me. But that's when napster hit the scene and I. could see how that was changing the record industry. Because Mercury records related independent company was Lyric Street records. There was dreamworks there was Mercury. There was MCI there was aristotle there was giant records there was curb I mean there was all these record companies around town. And I was working for mercury, and at that time had a really strong roster Shania. Twain was on the roster and what was sort of the biggest artists that they had at that time and it was coming off of. The come on over record which was selling diamond, which was ten million, and if you look at stats today in terms of what records getting certified, that's it's almost unheard of today When you put in streaming equivalents they're getting there but but that was huge. So Schneider Twain and it was Terri Clark and Sammy Kershaw Jamie O'Neal and then we had the oh brother where Santrac that just sort of blew up but Racine was. a seeing a huge decline in sales that were starting to happen, and with that then all the mergers of mercury than became Kareem ca we we merged with gain I saw a staff. Decline, we we had a they had to let some people go and then it was mercury dreamworks when we made merged with dreamworks and I saw staff. Layoffs and then we shutdown that imprint dreamworks altogether, and then we merged with EMI capital. So then that became what is now known as Universal Music Nashville, which is mercury. MCA capital M. I, and then I saw the same thing I saw layoffs, and so I was through this I don't know just just kept seeing this changing environment and layoffs and consolidations and. To do more with less people, less money was was what seemed to be the strategy and so at that point then that's you know like I said almost twenty years later of kind of going through that grind, and luckily you know I always had a home at a record company during all that but I did start to think man, there's gotta be a different path for me I keep seeing the decline within the record companies and Whereas my skill set and you know for me in marketing I the the other places to work in the industry and there are several it's business management I don't have an accounting background so I can't just jump into business management I. I hadn't been working in the touring environment. So I just jump into being a booking agent and You know I wasn't an attorney you know and I had worked in the merge business. So I was just thinking what's what's my next path and you know, I, think to be a good manager. You have to be a good marketer I think everything is marketing really and so I just kept thinking that probably my next life in the industry is in the management world and that's the timing was right for me as I was starting to have this internal struggle about what's next for me in my path the industry. Is was right at that time when we have merged with the capital and. I also had felt at the company I don't know that I felt like I saw my path earlier before we merged with the Mike capitalized rose in the ranks and I was the VP marketing at Mercury MCI, and then with the merger, there was a whole new group of folks came in a new head of the company that the head of the company that had been there. Prior Luke Lewis had always been. You know sooner my he was my mentor and boss at that time and I felt like always at home for them him with him and he left and that's when Mike Duggan came in to run the company and I'd known Mike for a long time and I've heard his name multiple times on this podcast because he's had such an influence he has on me but still he wasn't my guy necessarily and and so then I had to adapt into this new team and I just a didn't feel like I necessarily had my long term Um path at this new Universal Music Group Company and so I was keeping my eyes and ears open and that's when. I think seeing some of that change in the Industry Coren capshaw who is the head of red light had heard my name in actually with a colleague by the name of married Hilliard had mentioned my name to corn because he was looking to expand the Nashville office and the reason he was looking to expand the Nashville office was kind of the same reason I was looking to leave the the record company because had seen the trend of the record companies and. If you're having a management company, you're put a lot of your. Hope Entrust in and you're in the manpower that you expect to. Succeed with an artist with the record company. Hoping the record company has the resources to really support your artist and break your artists in the marketplace and he was seeing that trend managing artist. He was seeing that all these record companies that we were signing our artists to a lot of these record companies were reducing their staff reducing their budgets, and so he kept thinking well Gosh as a management company. I can't believe. You know the the future of Arta artists in the hands of record companies Soli if they're declining so I need to start building out my staff and so he. Knew that this change was happening over universal Mary Hilliard had said Hey I know this guy tom and recommended that corn just meet me and it's so funny she reached out to me and said, Hey, you WanNa meet this Guy Gordon I said yet I mean I didn't know what it was I thought it was just to meet him I didn't necessarily know where think that it was a interview but if you know corn and Bobby Ana you do you know he's he's right to business you know there's no hey, let's talk about your life I mean it's like tell me what you do tell me what you do for the. Record Company. You know you ever worked international if you're working I mean he was straight to business and I left the lunch with him and I thought well, that wasn't like get know that was an interview. and. We just kept conversation and then he invited me to join red light and I told him I said listen I. I've never managed anybody. So I don't know that I mean I, I am very interested but I don't know that I. I would have to learn and he said, well, I, don't necessarily need you to manage anybody I want you to come and help me with marketing and help. Let's let's let's make this company bigger and better management company, and that's when I left the record company, which is a little bit of a leap of faith I mean my personality I'm. I like some risk, but sometimes risk averse and I've been at the record companies for like I said almost twenty years and so I felt comfortable at my 401k, you know things in but I don't think I was feeling fulfilled and It was my wife who said Tom Listen you got I think you need to make a change for your own self personally but also professionally and I you know I love my former employees and and colleagues over at universal all the record company that I worked with. But that was the best move economic I. I immediately felt more fulfillment enjoyment a management, and I just really got the bug and I started really understand to answer your question. This is a long answer to your question but you asked what made me decide from marketing to get into more? Specific Artists Management I think it was learning more about what that businesses and. When I was sitting in the seat of the record company. I felt like we were the only ones doing the work and I did hear people at the record company complaining the same and what's the manager do and I feel like we're doing all the work and Then when I started working at the management company a realize what goes into artist management. I mean it is A. Sometimes thankless job not with you bobby. but sometimes thankless job, but it's twenty, four seven. It's all the time and you know we're dealing with record company but we're also dealing with something in their personal life were also dealing with You know like I said, they're touring and the merchandise in their PR issues or whatever it may be, and so it is a constant thing but I've found. In I think it is a part of my personality is I sort of thrive in that chaos I really loved it and so having been a red light for a while. and in my role kind of overseeing sitting, there were a couple of artists that. had started to join the red light team but. Didn't necessarily have specific manager that we're working with or had been working with the manager in that relationship for whatever reason just didn't work out and. There was a young kid and this was sort of my first. Quote Unquote artists that have started working with and it was a young kid by name Adam Sanders and he had a hit with Cole swindell wrote hit for him and wrote a song for Dustin Lynch. There was a number one single hell of the night and had a cut on Luke Bryan's record and use a young talented artist and at the time I was helping him with his marketing in his manager and he just split and he said listen I'd like to stay at Red Light and you know would you Work with me, and that's when I started to really work with and focus on a single artist and kind of help them along and you know I was careful not to jump to four in deep into the quote unquote management side more specifically with an artist because my role was also doing marketing and. but but I just love. That Ability to focus on a single artist and I think that's the one thing in my role in marketing it's hard for me to get really entrenched into the data the day with the artist because. There's so much going on and that's what the manager and the data days doing, and so I was sort of flying at thirty thousand feet with a lot of these artists in joining in marketing meeting with them and able to offer some suggestions or ideas. But you know I didn't feel like I was. Having that direct impact on their day to day and I think that's what gave me a little bit more of the bug to say man I really liked do that with few artists that I feel passionate about or or or people that feel passionate about and And that's where it's sort of led me to some of the artists that I'm working with now I've you know you grow Really, personally attached to these artists working with them and you want to see them succeed and and that was, and that was my move. I think at that point. I still I still oversee the marketing team but also have to balance that and focusing on somebody's that work with but but I love it on a day-to-day basis. Sugar land is another artists when they're together that you manage. How in the world are folks making money? Can't tour. Great Question. Not they're making some. In clarify that I've worked with sugarland. From the DA signed a record deal at mercury records, I was sitting in the lobby of mercury records when this new trio at the time. Came into the lobby and was introduced to us as this band sugarland and. It was kristen. Jennifer. And Christian the three that were the founding members of sugar land in. So I had done the marketing for them when I was on the record company side and when I left and came into management Christian bullish at the time this was win. They took a little bit of a break in both pursued some other opportunities that they had which. I think was healthy for them. Christian was looking for some management support for him and so he came up to red light and I started working with them and it was just a natural fit because we had worked together before and so when sugarland came back together, I worked with Christian and there's woman Gilman who works with Jennifer and we make it work together for them and. Right, now it's a, it's a great question there their victim to it as as all of these artists are, how are they making money today? There are a couple of days in order to make money outside of touring but I'll tell you it is definitely the biggest part of their pie. In as with management because managers as you said, you know the the financial structure manager is that we basically participate in fifteen percent of an artist income an really income of all spheres you know. So that's from their merchandise. It's from personal appearances or brand deals or whatnot but a Lotta that centers around touring and touring his where the most money is made, and in fact, I know you know a segment that you had before you were talking about sort of appearance fees for artist and you were kind of going through how that works and you know I think when you look at it even for an artist that. You know when you look at the quote, unquote rate card that had thrown out there on some of those artists is. An artist makes forty thousand dollars for an appearance. That's not forty thousand dollars that goes into their pocket. You know it's it's they have expensive tied into it. It's the you travel costs to get there. They have to pay their band crew. They have to pay the commissions for the booking agent, their business manager, their manager, and you know at the end of it that forty thousand dollars probably turns into. Ten thousand dollars or whatever it may be in So it's it it gets thinner the bigger you play the bigger venues you play the bigger, your guarantees you know the after expenses you're still at bring home more money But at the end of the day, it is from the touring side where the majority of the money comes in and. Right now people are at first win. Go vid impacted the touring business. You know there are a lot of people that I think. Well, I think a lot of us if not all of us really hope that this was just. A few months, and then we'll be back in business i. mean that's what I was a big part of in the start of this was okay. All of the tours that was that we're going to start in April or May. Let's move them to June July. And then we're thinking okay. Maybe we'll just move somebody's August September and then it just kept moving and moving and moving So when I. Hit impacted our business I don't think. I don't think we were is much concerned about the financial impact as we are today. because. It's obviously having a bigger impact knowing the. Delay that it's put on touring again, the biggest Puerto Bolivar Business at first I think people were just wanting to stay engaged and they were doing the virtual shows and they were facebook live all the time and in a lot of times those were just free and it was just free entertainment for fans to stay engaged until we got back to business. And then I think you've seen from that somewhat fatigued from that I think on the consumer side, but also on the artist side but also or saying, okay now, I have to monetize this gotta figure out a way to monetize this because if this is our quote unquote new normal for right now. I can't afford to just two free shows all the time because that's not. Feeding, my crew, it's not feeding my family and so a lot of. Artists of moved into more branded sponsored virtual events There's still a way to stay I, mean listen to all of these artist in their own right are influencers and they have big followings you know in their artists that you had millions of people on on instagram and facebook any of the social platforms. And that it is a value to brands right now, some brands now I think it's impacted brands as well. You know what I think everybody's suffering from it but I think you're seeing that from sponsored content I think you're seeing it from virtual shows I. Think you're seeing it from flash sales and what people can do from merchandise Those are where a lot of those order star making money. Now, if you're an artist that is also a songwriter that's different you're able to have success if your songs are being played at radio that that business is still there and the streaming business, there's there's income to be made on the publishing and performance right side. Sorry. I'm getting the weeds on it but you know I think that the basic point is. Without touring that's probably an impact of eighty percent of any given artists and I would say management companies income right now. Have, you seen anything like Luke, combs in your time at a in the label or working management I'll tell you I think the the closest thing I can. Compare him to. Is what I felt like the impact of Garth Brooks was on the community and I wasn't even really in the business at that time but I. Once. I joined the industry everybody referred to him in and I was a fan you know as I know you are. but man, he hit the scene and hit it fast. You know it's much too young to feel this damn. All which was great. But then it was friends in low places and unanswered prayers in thunder rolls and I mean it was just hit after hit after hit after almost like the MIDAS touch everything he touched gold in. I I can. I can compare is a similar impact awake for stapleton impacted. But I can't even put those two together because Chris had been around this town for fifteen years he was in the steel drivers in the Johnson, brothers I mean he had already been in the industry for some time. Luke seem to come out of nowhere and is categorized and and I think rightfully. So as a superstar, he is a superstar now So to answer your question, not necessarily mean I think you could should I twain but she had a record before she really like. Really. Hit when she partnered with Mutt laying and then that's when the. The woman me record came out and who's betted your boots been under and then it was it was a rocket ship then but it wouldn't quite the same. Immediate impact that I think Lucas having what about? Al. Deen. Audi I think. I, guess a little different because When you say he had a media. Hit. With first single the. Town was first single Y- was the only person I've heard compared to luke combs in this generation x Garth is The last one right before i. Is al-Deen. That's probably a good one in our member because I was in the industry when that happened and I think what surprised people most to was that was an independent record company. This was a new record company Brown started with broken bow records and here this. You know new kid that hit in and you're right. It was hit after hit for him I think Luke's trajectory at least it seems perceptually for me right now seems to have been has sort of exceeded that but I think that's a great example. Jason did have immediate impact and then you know just years later is selling out. You. Know Georgia's Stadium and having you know the tremendous success. But that but listen any the superstars that we have today. It didn't happen overnight. You know. Luke. Bryan great example who as we mentioned earlier? A. Couple records in when he really really hit was tailgates Tan lines. That was like at that point he had arrived. Eric Church was an immediate you know in that. Took a bit and then superstar Carrie Underwood I think had tremendous impact with her first single. But I think it was a little different I. think that was I don't think it. Didn't feel it. She came off of. American idol to and I don't know I don't know that I could put it the same way Miranda took a while before kerosene and then released started to have hits and. It doesn't happen like you see it with with Lou combs and you know I give it to them at a at. He's done. No wrong so far and you know could for him I'd like to see that I wanna see. Young's I WANNA see new superstars. I. Think we as a format have to have that that we not that you WANNA see people evolve out and I think that's the beauty of country music is that Country Artists can have those twenty thirty Arctic year careers and I think you've seen George Strait and the Alan Jackson Martina McBride who still having success maybe not. The same relative success that you see. If, you're benchmarking it. Go, but she still able to go out there and tour and you look at all of these other. You know the Mark Chestnuts. Mark. Wills and you know in you know God rest his soul but Joe Divvy was having a really strong career You know in resurgence, and so these artists are able to have really really long career. So like I said, I, don't WanNa see them evolve out but I think it's important that we continue to elevate as an industry. Elevate superstars because that is only only healthy for our I think our. Genre in our format because it continues to bring new audience in, you want our audience to completely age out. You want the younger audience to have an artist that they can champion the same way I think you and I were me specifically was champing. Garth Brooks at the time Dwight Yoakam at the time it hit for me like these. Those are the artists that I felt like I owned a little bit. You know and. So a data see these young superstars and. You know there are artists that are now headline Dannon Shea you know that's not an overnight success. Superstars now you know and. you know Kudos Kudos to it because it's not easy being in this industry man it's tough to get that level. It's easy. It may be it's not even easy, but you can have it. You can have a hit but impact. I think that's that's something that is a difference you know, and that's what you've seen an impact from. You know we said Gabby earlier Gaby's having real strong impact right now with this one song now are challenged her challenge will be to. back that up but Chris tabled an impact Once he really Kinda hit the scene but again, that was a grind for him. I was there at universal when. Chris sort of took his first step as a solo artist if you will in the comic commercial. Country Landscape and. Put out some great music and there was a single called woody listening to that still in heavy rotation and the Lord Household, which is my house just not heaven offering people. It could be playing. They're also you know to me you hoped and thought, and I think that's the thing with management. That's a struggle as you get attached to these artists and you just you you. It seems so obvious to you their talent and seems so obvious that they should succeed I think Chris Chris Stapleton was one of those artists when he first came through the no brainer this guy's got it all you know. and. This is this is about the Chris I was having been on the show on came out but the. Same thing you saw that too early champion was getting in trouble for putting them on the air because nobody ever heard of him. Executives and in radio because I was being eyeballed hard every move because I was different what I was doing so was like, why are you doing this and so we have a video of Chris because he come in four five times early and the first time I've ever called him. I called WHO's in the shower was like, hey man. Shower head call you right back I was on the air. Back, a minute, and so he came in and he did a bunch of hits, your man Josh Turner he did. He came back later to drink a beer from Lou that he wrote but I was like this guy is so you're just as a as an artist he probably not the most perfect singer but he's the best in my mind I was just moved by him and when he finally hit I was like holy crap and again the staple thing I've never seen anything album related like a half with stapleton. With that album that had Tennessee whiskey in. It was can you and it said fire away and? That was the traveler parachute parachute record. Yeah I album wise. I've seen nothing like that album since I've been in town, which is about eight years now because it just stayed at number one. Yeah, it's still I, think if you look on some of these streaming charges, still one of the top streamers which is unbelievable on it, but I think the point I was making with him is that you know you see some of these artists that you think. you know it seemed no brainer in that. They can have their shot and that they're going to you know they're going to have immediate impact in sometimes it doesn't sometimes it doesn't work for whatever reason and I think you know not everybody sees that's the sort of the beauty and also sort of the frustrating thing about music it is. It really is so subjective in so many ways mean they're songs that I hear on records that are gonna go ahead. And instead they release something else something that has not work, and then it becomes a multi week number one. You know we all our opinions there and I think with Chris I thought that was gonna hit immediately and I have to imagine and he and I have not had a conversation about it. But I have to imagine that was really frustrating for him. You know and but he stuck with it and and then he made a record that as you said, is really stood the test of time and you know that's a that's what I get off on in this industry is seeing those orders succeed that really you know that truly have that. Talent and everybody has their own talent that bring to the table but with him. It's been fun to see that kind of impact and I. think that's that we asked about living the world of loot combs right now and I don't work with Luke but I've seen what what he's doing and that you know seeing what the impact that Chris had. I think is important like I said, for this format, we've got to continue to bring superstars to the stage. I'll end with this because your background is in music you studying music at Belmont music business. So it's all been music. So what in the world would compel you? To want to work with me. Because only one part of my. Businesses. Music. I told you that sort of thrive in the chaos And I like the challenge of things and I. Think. For any manager with the worst thing that you can do is have a client that does not want it as much of you want as you want it for them and when I mean it is success. There are a lot of artists that just sort of expect or clients or however you WanNa, define him that just expect success is going to happen and they don't WanNa work for it s a -sarily or work as hard as you need them to work when we first were together or started working together You know I think you challenged all of us internally in were laying out what your goals were and it wasn't just to be status quo Elevate and it was to write a book and it was to have a TV show. It was I mean you you've always aspired for more and you know that's a big part of your personality and. That really enthusing you know. That ignited me. I think is is whatever where I was going with it I. Think I was drawn to. Your desire to keep growing and I like to think that we have a ah fit just personality wise like just liked you liked you as a person wanted to see you succeed in. I got it like I understood it like an no no that's what really compelled me to work with. You is seeing your drive to see you want to succeed and you're not satisfied with the status quo and you want to try different things and that just keeps me growing too and I think that has for me been a personally. Rewarding and professionally rewarding. Let me shut Tom Bitchy case he's listening because you tom are both my direct guys and so you come from a creative music background where he's a business guy and have you ever worked directly with Tom Until me. Yeah. In fact so we rent universal together he came when we merged together when I was at Mercury MCI he was. COO OF EMI capital and we merged together and so for a year, we work together but never directly like he was sort of more on the inside, he was running the operations in doing the books and working on payroll in. working on the artist agreements and it was all more legally stuff and I was more in this other sort of creative world where it's marketing and marketing campaigns and bigger strategy and content creation and etc etc.. but we always had a mutual respect him when he joined to red light after I'd like to think he followed me there when he joined We both had a role at red light that different than others he was helping with the operational stuff and I was helping more the creative stuff, and so we found ourselves working together and. i. think that's what you wanted. A management team is people in your team that complement each other and you described it he brings strengths to the table. That I don't have far more when I wouldn't say far more drinks farmland. I mean I wouldn't put it that way. I think he has some. But I have other strengths and I think we work really well together in that way and I'll I'll mention Morgan to who came from radio and is now the business talked about when someone gets into management she is my day to day. You know she's watching the calendar she's a really Daily, what's happening with me an forcing at times and so I I assume Morgan's been good I mean I see branching out a bit too yeah. Morgan's been great and that was an interesting search for us because we were looking for somebody to to be in that role and We saw the relationship in in the sort of evolution of Morgan in that, she worked with you from an assistant level and sort of grand turn in. Yeah phone screener and she had sort of sort of evolved with you ingrown grown with you that We were lucky that we could sort of put her into that role in that she was willing to come into that role and she's she's been great and you know she's learned the ribs quickly and I, think that was you know that was the one thing that you said how does somebody get into management? It is a learnable task I mean their their skill sets that come into it that I think you know that you. You either have or you don't from a personality trait but you know you can learn the business you learn any business I do think that there's some talents that you may not be able to master songwriting is one you can learn how to write a song doesn't make you great at it up Dr before. but Morgan's been a huge addition I think to this team and we we'd like to see her grow and that and I think that just makes us a strong management company if we can enable these. Folks that work within our red light structure to to work with other artists in to learn. That's GONNA make us stronger management company across the board as wrap it up. The last couple sprinkles will add the cupcake here that if you want me to ever hear a song, you have to get it to Tom not to me. Courage that is the I, heart radio. How many times a week somebody at least reference. You working with me for their benefit. It is. It's. It's it's growing. By the day of. A had a couple. Within the last seven days that have been hey you work with bobby right and I said, yeah yeah. So, can you get him this record? And I think again, it's the relationship that manager in client or artist have is trusting like there's our relationship is built in a different way. It's built on me working with you and your career I'm not in the programming business with you. I'm not in the radio business with you and I don't pretend to be and. I would never and I think that's a part of what you have to balance managers that you can't. You can't abuse that relationship If you know if if it's not right, it's not right for me or for people to. Sort of assume that I can influence you what you can do it. Well, we have conversation dot artists. The way we we do. You know there's some artists that I've championed in. You've said man I'd really like that artists the same way you do for me you come to me and say, Hey, what do you think this artist and you know and I discover artists that way too but yeah I, try to respect that with you it's like I I can't be I'm not a Radio rap, and trying to get you know everybody's singles played on the radio in an influence you and I. Respect that with you. Mike and Think. You'd like to ask Tom, for wrap it up you feel enlightened here. I'm sure you do again this the most consumed. I, don't know what the records are. World over under for this seven straight? Yes. Literally Seven. Okay that's. Listening back three times. Stephanie, my wife the big takeaway. Here is much everything else in the music industry there isn't an exact key that goes into the whole. You KINDA got figure it out by by Jimmy and the lock sometimes. You. Do and follow up and whether to the music industry or anything else. It's just following your passion listen. That's the reason on and that's not because. I just was looking for a GIG You know for me coming out of high school up good I'm glad we can extend the time here. Sorry guys. I'm GonNa take another hour here. But you know I at eighteen years old you're faced with in life to decide what you want to do with Russia. Why would you wanNA major in what you want to become a for me was I was playing baseball and I knew my skillset was not enough to take me to the major leagues and I was playing in bands. I was playing music. I just loved it. But I knew again that I didn't actually have the skill. To be a full time musician and that's when I learned about you know music business and I went to Belmont University to walk down for the baseball team made the team for a couple of months for her. I'll get myself more credit as a walk on, and then started majoring music business and I just was enamored with it and I just love it and I still do today like still get fired up about music I still love songs I still and I, and I get so much enjoyment out of seeing artists exceed. So I guess my my point in all of that is. You know if if music your passion main follow or whatever it is, and there are so many opportunities in life. that I I don't know that I really ever knew of interior design or it whatever it may be. You know for me it was like you can be Dr Busy salesman an attorney or teacher you know is like I don't know that's all I really knew of and man there's so many opportunities out there But it starts with finding your passion and I and I feel so. Lucky and blessed to be doing what I'm doing because I just don't know what else I do. You know that fulfills me through west entertainer of the year this year that question who wins entertainer that you're the same as I if I'm going memory here, it's Eric Church Carrie underwood. Luke combs. Keith Urban Miranda Lambert I believe from memory. That's the five pretty good. I think you may be right. I just voted. You. Okay. I just voted. Who went it's a tough on you. It's a tough one and you don't agree you'd have to do with what I'm saying I. Think Luke Combs Price should win I think that this community sometimes penalizes people for being too big too fast and like, Hey, wichita hurry you saw that with Dan Shea agree. Did you say Miranda Lambert I com should win. I tell you I voted for Kerry. because I feel like. Just she deserves it. There's there's an. Identifier, what entertainer means other than entertain me so TV. Sketch Comedy Instagram. Radio. Hits your tour that out full encompassing entertainment is what that is to me, and that is why voted for Kerry because to me she's the most that. Radio Success Luke combs does. The least not last year or last two years but there's no wrong answer because they're. Very. I get it. That's where I was GONNA. Go with it is like man I don't think there's wrong vote there and I know this is such a political answer but I sort of living political world in in in my business but there's no wrong answer to that vote in in the reason because I think they all deserve it for different reasons Lou combs I don't disagree probably on paper right now if there were stat based Run Away with it and I don't think anybody would go but I do think you're right people reward people. or or the voters reward artists that have also put in more time and I have to say what I would Eric Churches done over the last couple you use blows my mind you know that he plays a three and a half hour set by himself. You don't has three different like he plays a full band show then breaks it down and doesn't acoustic set in and comes back out. You about entertainer of the year of it's based on that. That's that's a lot of work and some people base it on Tori and how entertainment you are live and that's fair. That's correct. Curie Underwood who has been hit after hit after hit consistent in when you talk about entertainment me and Chris Dialing in her graphics I mean all of that I think again deserve. Miranda Lambert don't. Count her out because that's another one who has consistently been a stalwart within this industry and continued to have success. But also what I've seen with her Israel lift up other artists in and I think that is recognized by the industry. I've gotten we could have a whole nother conversation about voting and who to vote for and white vote for him because I think that's what I've sort of argued. And this is a little bit in in our backyard red light. That is, but like with Luke Luke Bryan and a reference to begin earlier. Brian has. been that artist you know. You got vote. For Garth, Brooks he sells more tickets I, get it again it garth who nobody can deny guards reason for winning entertainer year and I think well deserved. But from Luke who entertains people with consistent singles at radio I mean consistent number one singles that radio. Amazing just entertainer personality idol America. That's where I was going to go talk about entertainer. That's why carry has my vote. Yeah. But again, there isn't a specific rule that dives into why you should vote for a single person is it's almost like obscenity with by the there is no rule on what's obscene it's just and whatever your community fills is what it is, and if they get irritated and they complain that we may find you to give us a rule here. Totally right. That's you wish that. There was more specific than mark to it I mean, it's overall entertainment. What does that? How do you define that and that's why for me sort have been Standing on the box you know Luke Bryan for I agree you got screwed over. Yeah. Last couple of years he continues. I'm telling you want to many things at to Angelina Jolie they start taking raw front of magazines because she was winning every award right and then nobody wanted to do with her because she was plastered all over everything else and I think luke had to suffer his success I. Think you're right. I think you're right and. You know you at the same time I like to see names in the category. So Luke Combs Komo let's let's say Luke. The other Luke took spot. Let's say. You know you can't take that away from him. He deserves it to absolutely I. Think Danny shake it up and put up there I. think Damon Shade Talking About People that are getting screwed over a little bit and awards because awards are very political I think Florida Georgia line gets picked over a little go there like their mass they can they put out such quality as far as generally people love it. And they they're not recognized by the community of voters as much as they should be. I told that was the example that was in my head to and. I have. Champion them for a bit too because A. there's there's some great duos I think brothers, Osborne? WHO's amazing in the industry really loves and has champion them Dan. Shea hard to argue that they shouldn't win now too because of the success that they've had but prior to them and even. Sort of Compared to brothers Osborne Florida Georgia line was putting up the numbers they were putting up the numbers whether it's touring whether it's the radio hits the consumption numbers you know meant to be was one of the most consume song accrues for God. Sakes it was. One of the most consumed songs in the history of country music but. For whatever reason wasn't getting the vote and so you're right. It's it's it's not always who deserves to win. but again, that's a little subjective to as we saw subjective if it wasn't subjective, I'd be hosted the as it's all subjective Robert. Sarah. Thank you very much. This is we've been here for seven hours. Well, who knew I value to? It felt every bit. Felt every bit of all right. Thank you. Jamie Lynn. Hey. How are you? Doing good. I was watching some of your instagram story today and I was flipping through instagram in general. You are everywhere today you're on Rye, you're on Ryan Show seacrest. Three Different News shows is today or yesterday at the big. One. I honestly, I'm so lost in it I. I know the video releases bay like special video comes out for everyone today on my usage. So I think yeah, I think today's the big push everywhere your everywhere I. Look Right now that's that's pretty cool congratulations. Congratulations to you. I'm so happy for you when I saw that I was like, oh my gosh, she did it. Jamie Lynn Mike shed a dream I had I was having babies already. But this was like I don't know maybe two three weeks ago. I can't remember it I just it's just you had a baby and you were you happy to drink you kind of remember bits and pieces but the overall feeling was happy it was it was not like a bad. It was like a good thing and I was just like that's so strange I was listening on the radio when my kids screaming I don't know maybe. I preached. Anytime anybody says anything good about me I appreciate. So before we get into the one stuff I, just WANNA, reset audience for second because I. Think you are such a talented songwriter and such a talent performer side from Zoey one because maybe some folks there on the young side of it or on the older side of it didn't catch it. So what I want to Brag on you for one second before we talk about that and the song that Jaylen came to into my studio to play the first time I'd met her was this here called how could I want more? Then she also wrote four Jana Kramer. I got the boy. Here's a clip of that. And so I say all of that to set you up because now we just believe you're good. So tell me about this the new song from Zoe. Obviously, writing the creating music is like. Things to me but I am creator and also as you have a family I have to provide for. So I was able to find another way to have a creative outlet and being able to go back into the though year but not only the show but the music as well because the same phone with life one of the cast inverse people loved it too much. They loved us. So we never fully released it, I've figured during the time everybody going lockdown. Why don't we throw together Zoom co-writes and let's rework at a little bit and let's give them the same song and give the fans if they want. So that's what we did. We just kind of reworked and I went to a studios your Pogo. Hard picket I was by myself with a math Gome with you know engineer. With the producers. Singing they couldn't even hear really what it sounded like back, and that is how reporting. Break. And so I'm seeing some of the new zoe one on one. You guys altogether the cast, what what is it like to reunite with all of them? It was great. Some of them couldn't be there. They were actually out of the country two of them were but it was weird because my daughter was there and she my oldest daughter was the same age as I need all these kids and we're seeing them like consistently. So it was really weird seeing that like side side. Like living in two times at once and they were all great and hopefully You know hopefully, we can get everybody together for the Reboot, but it was nice to be able to have people that we did and just kind of catch up and relive you know relive our glory days were you say you're hoping you can get everybody together the reboot like you're doing the reboot, right? Oh Yeah. Okay. I mean I've also with the creative all that it's all happening it's just you know. It's really hard to get things in production right now but that it's all happening yet here's a question for you. What's it like to hang out with famous talkers in real life because they always trying to film and take something? I, did not see one of them with their phones in their hand. Honestly they were there. They were so professional they were so kind they were so like engaging with my daughters and my family I was blown away by how These kids are so young but so professional I think that it's just it's just the way our world is now and that's why I thought. It was a good direction to go with because you know whenever I was twelve and thirteen, all the phone thirteen year olds like me and now all the twelve and thirteen year olds love them to bring in the two generations together and kind of having them side by side was a really neat neat idea for the whole. The whole generation the news though. Game, but they were so kind and they were so professional and just nights. Good kids honestly. was there ever a rivalry between NICKELODEON AND DISNEY KIDS? You know I never really felt like it was because like molly was always so kind to me me and her got along really well, and we saw each other a lot of events and we were friends afterwards. and. I would assume that you know Zoe and Hannah Montana would have been the biggest competition. But for me, I was a kid on Dana's dot says me she's huge. There's no competing with that. You know. So for me, I was just like I'm lucky I do something I love to do and it's really neat to meet other kids who do it so I never felt that I definitely know that like there was that with some other kids that were in like our young Hollywood group with your oldest daughter does she think you're cool yet outside of being her mom because of Zoey or is are you cooler now because you introduce introduced to other people that she really thinks cool. I think I'm. Embarrassing very happy. But for the first time when I told her that you know Dixie demilio. No. She doesn't even have a six count, but just her friends, they all have them and stuff. So she just knows who these people are. It's just her generation. She told me he was proud of me. Yeah I was like well, what Hell I have made it. I felt. She was proud of me because you said, you know I, see you everywhere. My friends are talking about you and I got to meet these people and thank you. Mama. I'm so proud of you and was just made me so happy. TIKTOK. You did with your daughters where you were walking in front of them and they weren't looking up at you at all quite funny. Okay. Well, video calls a big disruption in my house. I had to say time manager with my daughter with me. It was like Mattie town could not post. This is so embarrassing that I would shake my button in front of the camera like that. Hurt School about how I should have brought a camera and my managers like labs Zig Mattie. It's like I I showed a few people be is that bad and she because she knew that like I said Galveston here don't pay attention and then when I did that he was very angry with me. So I ended up posted anyways you gotta do what you gotTa. Do those lights right you're preaching to the choir. Absolutely. Okay. Let's listen everybody out there listening to me right now the official music video for follow me. So we WANNA one is has already premiered by the time you hear this The Zoe revival will be a Hafer Union half complete reboot. That's right right. Jamie Lynn. Yet yes. Okay. I'm in. I'm such a big Fan of you and your music career. You're being a mom traveling around with your daughter softball team. It was like you were the coach your everywhere they were. You were just you as a person such a big Fan. So anytime you need anything, you can always reach out to me. Thank you so much. Probably you are the best. Yes I am the softball team mom Hasna that Brown I'm proudest title though. 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Ep. 36: Is This For Real? w/ Lab vs Mined Diamonds, Psychiatric Misdiagnosis and Deepfakes; Comedian and Writer Sophie Duker

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Ep. 36: Is This For Real? w/ Lab vs Mined Diamonds, Psychiatric Misdiagnosis and Deepfakes; Comedian and Writer Sophie Duker

"Hi I'm Christina Genesis this stance. If you're new to us we are an independent award. Winning Arts and coach podcast. We've been going for about three years now. And welcome to our eight episode at this. Pretty unreal depressing unpredictable time. Thank you again for joining me. We really hope that audio can be a place to take your mind away from what's happening globally. And I suppose. I don't think we could do an episode without talking about Kobe. Nineteen but we've actually asked a few lovely children including my own to share their thoughts and you knew that teaching broadcasting in home schooling was super relevant for two eight year-olds definitely helped me anywhere. You're going to hear that in a minute but coming up in this episode we ask. Is it for real? As we look at authenticity? Within the diamond trade there are a lot of environmental tolls associated with mine diamonds and consumers particularly millennials and Gen Z. Very concerned as consumers about environment about climate change and I think that's coming into the decision making misdiagnoses within the mental health industry with John. Lewis Susannah Callahan. I know that there are stories out there of people who had a very different outcome than I did. There's one in particular of a young woman who was mis-diagnosed For two years and one doctor who I spoke to about her said that she would likely remain quote unquote permanent child because the salt on her brain was just so profound and we end on deep fakes and the language of the tech industry to look at the increasingly blurred lines between real and fake. And how language is used to articulate the opposite with head of the think tank future advocacy. Wreak Chowdhry something with Elias Dividend which is a phenomenon where deep fakes proliferates and become so realistic the indiscernible from real videos so you can have real footage of genuine scandal dismissed as a deep frank and finally we catch up with the exciting comedian and writer Sofi Juca. I think I'm not the kind of person that people like. We always knew you were going to be a comedian. Even now probably but yeah definitely wasn't something that you would have lined up in the Edina in the book for me now. We were supposed to make this episode with filmmaker Louis King but this is on hold for obvious. Reasons says she massively inspired this topic. Is this real which are going to hear and we are going to definitely dig a little deeper with her in the coming months as she guest edits with me. Which I'm so excited about. She's a fantastic filmmaker. Really love her work. So hold tight for that and sending you lots of love Louise but as promised. Here's some quarantine thoughts from quarantine since March nineteenth. Today my school closed because of the current avars some pops quarantine have been fun and others have been difficult some of my favorite things about quarantine that you can express your creativity for example. I've been working on a piece of pick slot Minolta Chinedu on the phone. An actual picture made of Chinese class is GonNa hate me ages but I have so much time to do what I don't particularly like it. She's the ECON- go outside or play with your friends though. I have been face timing Emma's every day. I wish he would go to the park. I usually do this in this weather. The best thing is that my mom has recently Goto Safai Pam. We can roast marshmallows on it in the evenings. My top tip is trying to find some harbor office they go crispy on the outside when Russian him. Then stick them between two Digestives or you can cut one in half and it's the best more ever will. There are lots of things about quarantine fun. I also find it very sad thing about all. The people can get seriously ill from this. I'm also playing not with my sister. Who is three? She's bone is really cute. I I'm into my sister asking you off how this home school has gone in these pastas. Actually how has it been day? Good because it's been so much fun hanging out mummy might do you have any things are not working for you because my Addicts WHOM TIME. anguish that chasing handle. What do you Miss About School? I I loved I loved hang of my friends winter and then a might offend all. Those were very very. Have you had fun here? Yes but I. I miss my old school because I don't have to like eat. I on eight real putting Leo young like custody cake and biscuits stuff at school. Are you sure you don't have any guns? You should I have a corner. I have joking either this approach. He's retired my son is. I think we should finish. I love my sister for this interview. Thanks very much bye. I like. I'm staying home for the virus is that you have to do the work all at once. You can make breaks and can have extra time to do other stuff like but I don't like when there's no one explained how you do the question and how you should work it out. I've enjoyed doing the walkout in the morning with my family Before I actually start the work like when we did a like a smooth Baykal thing at home like I couldn't see my friends anymore could just hung out the. How are you having fun? I have corns on. The corner is the We don't really have saw that much or new on Thursday and Friday but the pros is bribing. My sister she starts getting annoyed. And we have to say and then be to chases me and we really get to have fun is is like playing it tag or highly kit any of the Person Corp time like grandma an expert breakfast because it's very nice of then. Corden is Cuomo ways recommends oats when I was in cow's milk and the corn is I miss outside. It was so lovely out there. Looks like I'm not gonna be able to or allow one week and a half thank you very much either. I'm the gut you listened to my reporting special thanks to Zola Vita Jacob and Ivo for sharing their thoughts Enriqueta Genesis for making the music for us. Thanks for joining me during Corentin time. We have some cultural suggestions of the indoors. And we've got quite a lot of them and thank you so much to the listeners. As well and we're going to start with burks. Zoe says she's really enjoying. Why be happy when you can be normal? That's by Jeanette winterson an older burke she says but it's a New York Times bestseller and it's a meme wise witty and celebrator. Why be happy when you can be? Normal is a kind of search for belonging. Love identity in home and a mother. You might also know her work from her international bestselling novel that was also turned into TV. Could oranges are not the only fruit but this book is about A life's work to find happiness published by Penguin who so music or listening to riot suggests skyboxes box by Ghana. He thinks the artist is versatile and has a relaxed harmonic flow says the lyrics are deep and creative and he loves the song the accompanying music video. He says is inspired. He boss as Bass John Gotti became. He's just hey there's my money here can't be loot not close you folks home. Those dope lippold sky box by Ghana. And it's S. L. Records and onto books. There is a book out by seven Rar. She's a lecturer of Law Appeal University. It's called feeling Queer jurisprudence injury intimacy identity. Now we actually had said on our program from Manchester's lgbtq plus seen program that we did well anyway in this book he interviews Scholars Activists Writers and Judges and he uncovers how law reform can help but also how the legal system continues to marginalize queer minorities so his new book feeling Queer Jurisprudence is published by Route Ledge and it takes these passionate debates further and exposed. How and why our emotions essential to laws aimed at recognizing and protecting LGBT people? You can get that as an e book because it's much cheaper and he says there's no risk of infection so yeah Definitely make sure you pick that one up and some music. I'm really loving this artist. A new york-based South Korean electronic producer. Dj vocalist her. Name is Your AG. And she announced the release of a new mix tape titled what we drew. Its out tomorrow on xtra records. This is her new record waking up down and they also have a great animated video to go along with it should waking up down by on Excel also analysts suggest the new Jay electronica album which she says is so so great and it's called or written testimony. It was his debut studio album and it was recorded in about forty days and then released very soon after. She also says she's really liking the novel corner that held them by. Sylvia Townsend Warner written in nineteen forty eight is set in Norfolk convert as an extraordinary novel about the fluid life of a community under pressure full of wonderful sentences. She said 'em it's quite topical at the moment. She said. Check out the newest edition from the New York Review of books. So that was the corner that held them by Sylvia Townsend Warner. Was this a more music new album by childish. Gambino DONALD GLOVER. It's called Three fifteen twenty. It feels very of this moment. He's has lots of great chewed up and listening to the album. Continuously time is a really good one. Twelve thirty eight is great. Really Nice chilled old. School feels kind of out cost. Ish obviously quite different everything. That's great about childish. Gambino is music. The album blends almost into one as well and I thought I could really good for now and to listen to also really good song is called thirty to twenty two anyway. It's a great chewed but I'm GonNa play for you now. Twelve thirty eight back. Check gone won't allow that was charged. Gambino with his new album. Three fifteen twenty and you just heard twelve thirty eight last but not least. Jamie suggests insecure season for says. I cannot wait for Isa Ray in her amazing TV show. It's sexy beautiful. Comedic look at four women living their best and sometimes worst life in La. He says it's created by and starring. Isa Ray who does storytelling in a phenomenal manner? That is out on the twelfth of April. Thank you so much for that so excited about that. Love insecure massive fans here. And that is it so all of these coach will shout. Outs will be on our website. Euro- to the episode page. If the bottom it will give you all the coach shutouts and actually you can also look back at previous ones because so many of them still relevant Say Yet chapter now. Back to the program with is this for real onto diamond. These gems that anywhere between one and three billion years old in fact older than sapphires. Which she'd been around for one hundred and fifty million years and much older than rubies which were formed a mere fifty million years ago. Laura how we mocked life events such as engagements anniversaries on simply expressing. Love is changing and the switch isn't towards other precious gems diamonds era an incredibly beautiful creations of nature but research shows. They're falling out of favor. So how important is authenticity rarity? There's a new kid on. The block is also a real diamond but grown in a lab. A natural gems cost ninety percent less than their billion year old mind relative and according to a recent industry report from twenty thousand. Nineteen production of these miracles of science is on the up and set to increase substantially perhaps by as much as twenty percent year on year showing that demand is accelerating so this is my sister touch dependent motor and this is what I use to cut the grew so spins the Journal de Speed it will cut through metal and then yeah you do asset. Yes the guys is just because I'm young enough side quite fresh but the guy sitting next to me the senior centers. They have go-goes that they have the law of the lenses already so they can focus really well on the diamond. Apparently that was inside the workshop. Seventy-seven diamond they provide the largest online selection of certified diamonds in the world. It's Co run by Diamond Dealer. Tobias cormon diamonds are very special first of all if you see the reaction that people have to them. They're a little bit cold so they can be a little bit tinguely the fact that they were formed billions of years ago in the primordial stage of when the Earth was forming makes them incredibly special the hardest natural substance and they transformed from kind of a very cloudy very ordinary looking rock to something incredibly bright and sparkly there cut in a way that actually traps light and reflected back out to the table and create something unworldly in some shape or form and then on top of that. They're incredibly valuable. So you know I think verify special makes a top diamond. What makes something really expensive and super desirable? Really what it? What it's about is how common things are Harare. Things are so the larger better quality diamonds are much more rare and so a lot more expensive and actually diamonds you know increase in price exponentially so if you look at some of the lower quality diamonds and smaller in size and they're INEX- relatively inexpensive and accessible for people as soon as you start getting larger quality diamonds larger and higher quality diamonds. Then they become a lot more expensive very quickly and within that band basically got rare. And then you've got really rare and truly incredibly rare because you've got things like colored diamonds for example pinks and blues. Actually the rarest of the mall is the red diamond in the history of the world and lower hundred diamonds graded read you can imagine how incredibly rare they are and even the the blues pinks are so incredibly ran and much more expensive than white diamonds they can read one in their lap. They have problems replicating the exact colors but they are able to work to create colors. So you can get lab-grown colored diamonds and you explain the Houston around diamonds. Being used as engagement ring from. What's your company name is derived archduke. Maximilian proposed to betrothed and up until then the tradition had been sapphires. Rubies and emeralds of the three big precious stones was mainly what was used for patrol. That just hasn't been enough diamonds kind of around and it just wasn't really traditions. On fourteen. Seventy seven. He decided probably be different at the time and proposed with a with a diamond engagement ring. Sal We express love make grand gestures was set in stone in fourteen seventy seven however. There's a shift away from mine. Diamonds to their synthetic d'appel Ganga's and this changing consumer habits has been reported by journalist and filmmaker Harry Constable. I found out about the story myself in. May Two thousand eighteen because I got engaged and we started looking into diamonds for the first time in my life. So I guess I've formed part of that cohort innocence. I was kind of interested in where diamonds come from. I think the massive appeal of lab diamonds from my research has been so of three. There's the fact that lab diamonds are build certainly as being more environmentally friendly. There are a lot of environmental tolls associated with mine diamonds and consumers particularly millennials and Gen Z. Very concerned as consumers about the environment about climate. Change I think. That's coming into the decision. Making millennials are up until about thirty five years old now and JEN's said it starts from four years old twenty four years old environment is obviously very important to them. Also technology has come on a lot in terms of lab diamond so in the last ten years the way the speed at which they're able to create diamonds the quality of lab diamonds that can be grown in a lab and the cost of growing lab. Diamonds has become significantly cheaper so they're more accessible from that perspective. That means that you can get a really high quality diamond. That was grown in a lab for the first time really and there's all sorts of traceability aspect. I think people are considering when like young people are buying diamonds. The mind diamond industry is famously. Opaque and And I think lapd diamonds do have for my research that kind of benefit. They know exactly where they came from because they literally grown and sold in the same spot a lot of the time. So what do you think about when you have someone Meghan Markle? Then you also have blood-diamond remember the the film and things that you think things like that pop culture I suppose and celebrity has a huge impact as well on or not as much and the company that sold those diamond earrings. To Mega macos. Couldn't keep up with the demand and they were only there any a two person of tiny business where they were and overnight the demand for that particular pairings that she wore went hugely went up. I think that the reason a lot of people know about things like the Kimberley Process which is the certificate that mine diamonds. Get to prove that. They didn't come from an armed gang. That was trying to unseat government. We know that because of blood diamond the movie. So Billy Porter War lab diamonds the Oscars Dame Helen. Mirren has worn them. Jessie J has worn them. And so these major figures obviously push forward the conversation and it's something that the people that entered was saying this is something that's gotten bigger and bigger in the US but actually the UK and Europe is just really starting to learn about labs now and I think the British celebrities embracing them is certainly raising awareness. How do you grow? Something is precious and dazzling as a diamond in a lab so minds? Islands are grown in the hundred meters or so underground using extreme pressure and he of the earth and they were grown between one and three billion years ago and so- lab diamonds they mimic those same natural environments. That mind diamond would have been grown in but it's using machinery so they place a seed of a diamond into a machine. Uh-huh of Lull Chamber. And then they make it very hot and pressure in that and gradually a diamond is grown. Yeah and it can be grown in as little as five days arguably the most famous of names in the diamond business is to Biz which began unearthing and working diamonds in South Africa. In the late nineteenth century. Cecil Rhodes was the founding chairman of the debate has consolidated mines company which had a monopoly on the production and distribution in South Africa and less than a decade later. They controlled ninety percent of the trade but appears to have sense. The shifting tastes of their potential future customers and somewhat surprisingly a leading the charge towards lap made stones Tobias Coleman Two beers launched a brand called light box where they made synthetic diamonds very accessible and they did a big survey study with millennials about how they perceived Lebron diamonds conclusion was basically that Leno C. lab grown very much as something fun but not the kind of big store value in the product. Big Romantic thing. So they created a brand off the back of that they've got colored synthetic diamonds. They've got white synthetic diamonds. They make an all kinds of jewelry engagement rings but fun jewellery and they've lowered the pricing so much so that a lot of the lab grown companies pats lower their pricing and that's brought the pricing down and created a big gap between Lebron. A natural. What do you say this kind of splits the market then in a way lab diamonds in my opinion will widen the accessibility of diamonds? And so if you're on an aspirational path to own something. I think that a lot more people will be able to access lab grown diamonds because the pricing is a lot lower and it's falling year-on-year as more of them come to market but how environmentally friendly all these lab green gems Diamond Jeweler Tobias. Kuhlman has some thoughts in terms of the new generation. So the echo is something that's been made a lot of times of course there's some truth to that but actually the carbon footprint of lab. Grown diamonds is huge right. You need a tremendous amount of energy heat and pressure to be able to create these diamonds. So they're not very ECO friendly as such but I think as increasingly you're able to use renewable energy at the moment you need such a huge amount of renewable energy. You know you need to be near a dam or something like that to be able to create. This is the same thing as a mining for. Bitcoins consumes a huge amount of energy. So I think that argument is kind of a little bit out the window and also if you look at the diamond industry. Today the mining industry this huge efforts by companies like De Beers to clean themselves up. And it's been happening for quite a long time. Actually Tobias explained how the mind diamond industry has changed and become more environmentally aware however research carried out by journalists Harrick constable reveal some staggering statistics. So in the question of lab diamond or mine diamond. It's two hundred and fifty tons of earth shifted for every single car of mined diamonds. So the physical impact of digging out. The earth is significant. And I think that that there's not a perfect answer and actually no one really needs diamonds. Do their luxury. It's a nice to have if you look at it. From an economic point of view other countries where you know they might be a resource rich but economically less secure so developing countries. Where you have all this stuff happening Lines as anyone looked at that sort of impact as well is that something. That's part of the discussion. That's something that I wondered about. An started investigating when. I first started looking into this topic. It's all complicated for a couple of reasons. One is that of course. Diamond Mines create jobs in developing countries. Those jobs and the quality and the amount of money that these people get and how much their lives are actually improved is debatable. But it is a job is putting some money into families are putting some food on the table and there is a concern that as consumers potentially move away and they are starting to this as a trend that we're seeing they move away from by mine diamonds in Inter lab diamonds. Those latte diamond companies tend to operate out of place light Silicon Valley in California London. Then not in these developing countries and. I DID QUESTION LAB. Diamond Business Owners to say. What do you think about? This potentially shifting away jobs and opportunities millions of jobs potentially from developing countries. And they kind of said. Oh the the solution would be to lose the lab diamond companies in the developing countries. How far they got with doing. No one's doing that. So how will lab grown diamonds feature into bias? Future plans in terms of whether we're going to offer lab grown diamonds. So yes we are we are gonNA offer because we think some people believe that the Eka reason is strong. There's some people that will buy more fun jewelry from us. They want some large earrings. For example some stud earrings and they don't quite have the budget but they want the larger size and they won't get there with natural than they can take lab grown as an alternative But I think for COR products like engagement rings. I don't think lab grown is GONNA take that market very strongly. I think that there's room for both of them in the market and what I think will happen. There's a lot more people as a result of this own diamonds which I think is a good thing. So where near the end of our journey through diamonds. We've heard about the origins of the diamond business. How it grew in popularity issues around the extraction process and what the consequences might be on diamond producing countries. Should that business shrink or even disappear back to seventy seven? Dominance co-founder Tobias Coleman. Diamonds is here to stay. It is absolutely part of our culture. It's an expression of joy love and celebration but actually it's an incredible form of wealth storage as well. I've got a friend who is originally from Iran and when the Shah was deposed his family had to leave absolutely everything. The only thing they they were able to take was very special diamond and they came over here with literally nothing but this one diamond and they were able to sell that and start a new but I think the aspiration will be to own the natural diamonds because that is the true store value. So I think that it's going to be really difficult for lab grown to replace that because it doesn't have the same significance and it's not the same symbol of value and it's not something generation that you can pass down. You know we love getting an old broach that we take the diamonds out and create a new piece of modern piece of jewelry. Wayne their grandmother's jewelry that they inherited. You know it's wonderful to be able to do that. I don't think lab-grown will represent that back to Harriet constable. Seventy percent of millennials would consider buying a lab diamond engagement ring. Now that's a really strong market for where we're going and I think the idea of snobbery about whether these are actually real special diamonds or not. That wasn't something that was coming up. When I was interviewing young people I think for them. It was a bit of a no brainer. It's like so it's cheaper doesn't come from the earth it didn't cost humanitarian or an environmentally. And I know where it came from and it can be a really high quality and it is a diamond so I think young people that I was interviewing that this doesn't feel like a compromise for them and that's the way that we'll see things going with so many traditions and accepted truce influx. I wonder how this as well as the current was lab. Grown diamonds will play out in future. Whatever your opinion on real versus fake one thing's for sure it's not just what we value that is changing for own value system and how it plays out globally that was journalist and filmmaker. Harry constable finishing that report special. Thanks to both. Antibodies Coleman of seventy seven diamonds and Welsh hero Shirley Bassey for creating the iconic amazing song. So the mind is one of Sciences. Last frontiers despite billions being poured into large national and international research it continues to confound scientists. This blind spot can often have far-reaching consequences not least misdiagnoses a recent study in the US for example concluded that over half of previously diagnosed schizophrenic. Patients actually only had anxiety. But how does this happen? And what are the consequences? Someone who has been documenting. This for more than a decade is author Susanna Callahan. She was misdiagnosed. Wrote the number one bestselling book brain on fire which was also turned into a film with the same title which you can actually watch on net flicks her second book. The great pretender looks at the mental health system from a wider perspective. We will with her. While she was in isolation in her home in Brooklyn she started off by reading an excerpt from her new book. The story that follows is true. It is also not true. This is patient number five to one threes first hospitalization. His Name Is David O'Leary. He's thirty nine year old advertising copywriter married with two children and he years voices. Psychiatrists opens the intake interview with some orienting questions. What is your name? Where are you? What is the date? Who IS THE PRESIDENT? He answers all four questions correctly. David Laurie Haverford State Hospital February six. Nineteen sixty-nine Richard Nixon. Then the psychiatrists asks about the voices. The patient tells him that they say it's empty. Nothing inside it's hollow. It makes an empty noise. The discussion moves on to life beyond the voices. The doctrine patient speak about Lurie's latent feelings of paranoia of dissatisfaction of feeling somehow less than his peers. They discuss his childhood. As the son of two devout Orthodox Jews and once intense relationship with his mother that had cooled over time. They speak about his marital issues and his struggle to temper rages sometimes directed at his children. The interview continues on in this manner for thirty minutes. At which time the psychiatrists has gathered nearly two pages of notes. Does that Kaya admits him with a diagnosis of schizophrenia. Schizo affective type. But there's a problem David. Laura doesn't hear voices. He's not an advertising copywriter and his last name isn't Laurie. In fact David. Laurie doesn't exist. Not was the section from the great pretender. We began our interview by gang. Back to the beginning to look at her misdiagnosis that she covered in her book. My my first book was called brain on fire Which chronicled my experience with misdiagnosis When I was twenty four years old and That manifested in many ways my first presentation. I was kind of lethargic. Almost depressed and from there escalated very quickly and the robust symptoms. That many doctors focused on was psychosis ahead hallucinations. I was delusional. I was at times even violent and during that time. I was hospitalized for a month. I received various diagnoses including bipolar disorder and Schizo affective disorder until ultimately about two or three weeks into that hospitalization. I was properly diagnosed with autoimmune cephalophagus which is basically when the body's immune system ratchets up and starts to target and attack the brain so it was really in the going back for this book for the brain on fire that I started to kind of get a deeper understanding of what we're really facing and really what my caregivers were facing and I realized how much those psychiatric labels those diagnoses were really kind of lobby that my family as a threat one point one nurse even kind of implied. You know if she doesn't stop this bad behavior because I was a quote unquote bad patient trying to escape constantly. She said she'll go to a place with less care that she won't like as much which was a veiled threat about a psychiatric hospital. I wasn't aware of this at the time I wasn't there but it was in the going back that I realize the stakes. I was facing and with autoimmune diseases. Is that something that we're starting to hear a lot more about now? What would you say? Autoimmune disease means for people who are just now hearing it in their social circles. There's been a a really drastic rise in the number of autoimmune diseases. Diagnosed part of that. Is that the fact we really are becoming aware of illnesses? That perhaps were undiagnosed or misdiagnosed. In the past my illness is one of those in the past. I likely would have lived the rest of my life with a serious mental illness. Diagnosis or I would have died. So you're dealing with a kind of rise and auto immune diseases in general and I think that it's a very exciting area of interest especially where autoimmune diseases start to overlap with psychiatry. And so you're having a lot of research done about people who may have been diagnosed with schizophrenia. May Be having some kind of immune dysfunction however. I think that the kind of research side hasn't necessarily infiltrated the patient experience yet. There's a lot of promise. A lot of hope. A lot of excitement on the research end in the laboratories but actually the day to day experiences of people on the ground with chronic psychiatric illnesses. These people aren't necessarily seeing that same optimism and so this book was kind of A. It was a book for the people who are still waiting for their answers. Am I right? In saying that you'll misdiagnosis led to your second birth absolutely. Can you ever explain the fundamental differences between those two books for our listeners? Please so you know. Brain on fire was very much a memoir of reportage again. I don't remember so much of it. But the great pretender which followed very much from brain on fire is more of strictly reportage kind of going back through our research going back through kind of research about psychiatry about our understanding of mental illness. So in many ways they're different but they both stem from very personal places. After brain on fire was published. I was inundated with contact from people from all over the world who either saw themselves in my experience or expressed this feeling that they were being ignored marginalized or even abused by the medical community. And oftentimes there was a psychiatric community. There were a lot of people coming forward asking me. Why are we making this distinction between your illness which presents a psychiatric illness though is called neurological one and something like many of the readers? Who contacted me who are called inorganic or functional? Different labels and a lot of people reached out asking me about this separation. Is this arbitrary and did you find in your research? I mean you know. We are limited by the tools we have at hand and that was a real surprise to me because brain on fire is very much a story of the marvels of modern medicine and the great pretender is a kind of tempering of that in a way. It's saying we know so little especially about the brain and that was a real lesson for me the fact that we don't know so much allows for some people to be marginalized abused neglected. And it happens all the time and so that was a real lesson for me in terms of the limitations of psychiatry of our understanding of the brain and medicine. In general. You've been looking at the Rosen hand. Study Right which is really interesting because the study was done about forty years ago isn't it and he was trying to look at the psychiatric system and look at different labels and mental illness. Firstly there was obviously quite a lot of holes in his research which is great you then picked up and looked at that also. There was some interesting things in his research right. The study which is called on being sane in insane places which was published by David Rosen hand. Who was a stanford professor in psychology and Law? It's kind of a treasure trove of interesting things I mean. I think that he saw real issues in psychiatric care across the world but especially in America we had institutions that were harmful places that were basically warehousing people you know we had people who were suffering who were not getting proper care in fact. We're being victimized so this was a real problem and he himself went undercover. He was one of the pseudo patients and so he experienced what it was like to be a psychiatric patient and it was very devastating. He described it as being treated like another person. Like you're less than human than I think. He saw an opportunity to tell the story and to make a significant impact but he took a shortcut. He did it the wrong way but some of his messages were were really important. Still obviously my interest grew into a more of an investigation but on the face value the study which involved eight people going undercover in psychiatric hospitals. All over the country and basically only showing one symptom and just based on that one symptom. They were all misdiagnosed with serious mental illness. Most of them were schizophrenia. It was a time of great upheaval in psychiatry. This was in the nineteen seventies. Psychiatry was really trying to figure out its place. In medicine you know it was a real tumultuous time and it raised all these questions about the legitimacy of diagnoses. What do we really know about these psychiatric labels and one of a kind of beautiful parts about the study is how much context and environment shape the way we see the world and this is true for doctors as well as just an everyday person on the street in the study even though they behave as normally as they possibly could everything they did once they were labeled with say schizophrenia became further sign of their diagnosis so one of the undercover people they were called pseudo patients? He was very honest about his experiences. He had long hair he was maybe a little bit of a hippy and the doctor started to push him and ask him questions. She said that he engaged in homosexual acts which for her words when he had never actually engaged in and you know and at that time homosexuality was considered to be a mental illness it was in the DSM and so was she was seeing a man in front of her who maybe was a little bit alternative in some ways and so she kind of put him in a category and saw him through the lens of what she was expecting him to be so everything they did. No matter how quote normal or abnormal it was became further proof of their diagnostic label. And I suppose if you zoom in now to where we are when you wrote about it. Do you think that this deal will kind of deep dysfunctional aspect in psychiatry and how they diagnose patients I mean in terms of how people are seeing and this idea of how we present shaping the way Dr? Cs undoubtedly that happens? I mean there have been a lot of very valid important research on racial disparities in psychiatric disorders. And how black and Brown men in particular have a greater chance of being diagnosed with a major psychotic disorder than white male or female counterpart. So these are things that are still happening in our culture however. I don't want to say that that is completely arbitrary and diagnosis is meaningless. I think that there is always a battle. That doctor is trying to get a full picture of a person and you know. I think it's very hard work and if someone today were to go to the hospital and present the same way that I did but not from my socioeconomic background. Maybe not as articulate. Maybe didn't have the education or didn't have family that was key for me. Would they have been diagnosed. I don't know the answer to that question. And that is what really kind of keeps me up at night. This is what has angered me. You know I know that there are stories out there of people who had a very different outcome than I did. There's one in particular of a young woman who was misdiagnosed For two years and one doctor who I spoke to about her said that she would likely remain quote unquote permanent child because the salt on her brain was just so profound. And so you know. I HAVE INTERACTIONS WITH PEOPLE CONSTANTLY. Who did not get the same outcome that I did not just because misdiagnosis just because also the illness does not present the same way to every person you know. It's for some people recover very quickly and fully and some people. Don't some people get a diagnosis within a week? Other people get within years or never do so these questions of how do we even that playing field? And how do we make them both valid? And make sure that people aren't slipping through the cracks. I mean these are profound and important questions that I think played a lot of Nacho psychiatry but I think medicine in general and in the great pretender your most recent book. What were the key things that you were the most proud of that you've kind of been to change over raise awareness of well you know told this study on being sane in insane places. Was this kind of key study that is taught in almost every psych. WanNa one class. Most history of psychiatry include at least couple pages dedicated to it especially in America. It had a profound effect on the field of psychiatry a huge effect and so as I started to dive in and really start to investigate I started to realize that the study itself was not as it seems and I was able to find evidence that there were parts of this study that were perhaps even fabricated and the fact that I could set the record straight about this important study and raise questions about research in general and about fraud in academia that I will hopefully from this point on alter the way that this study is presented to a new generation of students. That is really exciting to me and I feel very proud of that and I hope that it's still taught as a way of kind of opening up these larger questions again that we discussed about validity in psychiatric diagnoses but also raises questions about fraud. About how do we remain both skeptical and optimistic about academic on notions not ideas of mental health? Change all the time constantly researching new things. We're constantly seeing pour in more nuanced light. So what do you think at the moment constitutes someone who does have a mental health condition? What would you say? Is that something that no no? It's a V. question that animates the field. And I think that if you talk to a lot of psychiatrists I think a distress is a huge part of the component of what you describe as A mental illness. And then also it's a kind of law of ruling out other causes right so once you've ruled out any so-called physical. I hate making it physical mental. Because we know that the body and the brain are all connected. But you know as we wait. There is a lot of help and guidance and support that good psychiatric care can give and I don't WanNa undersell that and the work that's being done in that arena is really important but I think the more we learn a kind of the more these barriers among these various fields. We're going to start to kind of fall down. I think what she thinks. Next feud you'd think you want to explore this area again. Do More investigative pieces or do you actually think I wanna do something completely different. There is a wonderful writer named Ron Powers who wrote a book called. No one cares about crazy people and it's about his two sons who were both diagnosed with a friend and he said something to the effect of kind of once. You've become aware of psychiatry of quote unquote madness. You can't turn your back on it again and I've kind of come too close to these issues constantly. I am reminded of my own experience and the experience of those who I've written about and I have talked to and I don't see myself fully moving beyond it. I would love to do something completely different. But I noticed that everything that I'm drawn to is at least peripherally related to these larger issues so I don't know it keeps pulling me back in so thanks to Susanna Callahan. Author of brain on fire and the great pretender out now published by cutting gate. There is no single greatest. Example of modern tech blurring the lines between real and imaginary than. We've deep fakes. You may be familiar with deep fakes. If you've seen the plethora of convincing fake videos online of Boris Johnson endorsing Jeremy Corbyn or you might have heard about many female celebrities who have had their faces connected to porn stars on porn websites. The technology behind deep fakes very sophisticated. And it's becoming more so it's not only used in the criminal underworld of the porn industry but also by tech companies governments and the entertainment industry. We met a re Chowdhry head of the think tank future advocacy a non partisan organization working in the intersections of advocacy global affairs and technology. His work focuses on the social economic and political impact of artificial intelligence and emerging technologies. I'll conversation began by discussing the basics. What are deep fakes? Deep fakes are essentially fabricated video and audio content. And you do this using deep learning and assessments evidence to create new content. Save you watch films like Star Wars? You'll have seen essentially a deep break of Princess Leia but the real leading area of this is not any kind of legitimate industry really the the pornography industry if that's where you're seeing a huge proliferation of deep fakes so these what is involved in practice are essentially face swapped videos of celebrities into pornography videos. On which is already quite dark Quite a lot of these up. The estimates that fifteen thousand deep breaks on the incident ninety six percents of which are pornographic in nature but the reason why I say pornography is driving industries. Because there's a lot of money to be made from those videos especially the celebrity ones some kind of like youtube videos movies together. Money May privatizing. The same is the case with pornography right so there are very talk messed up individuals who are creating these pornographic deep fakes making money from. I'm because there's a money incentive drives better quality more of a huge proliferation of it. And can you explain how this kind of works again like? It's one of those things that people might hear about or think they know about. Can you explain how like algorithms deep fakes? A I said machine learning facial recognition. You know these terms are quite complicated. How do you kind of break that down? All all of these things the best married thinking about it or just processes so an Algorithm is seven instructions essentially the pass increasing the deep break will use content of the subject so the victim with individual Parks Johnson and using system which maps out specific facial features. So the distance between each under your lips or your eyes or your nose Visa features of your face which can be mapped encoded. They use this to create new video new content syncs with new speech or new action and the way denies they use systems which generates a number of potential options open videos central images to map against the new features so that's how it works for deep fake specifically facial recognition the same thing as mapping out features of your race on when people talk about. Algorithms being racist often. What they're talking about is the data which is used to train these processes say with facial recognition cameras. These may be trained to identify facial features. Identify what isn't isn't a face. That's walking past them. And they might be trained primarily on. Caucasian faces so this is often quite big problem in the technology sector Caucasian as the defaults for. Mississippi's things. And what this means. Is that these cameras. What better one Caucasian faces when faced with An individual skin. It might not work as well and that will be less accurate. And what that means and surveillance is he may have people of Color who are disproportionately impacted and therefore maybe stop search disproportionate rates. Because you just might be flagged just like oh I don't really recognize that zoom in a bit more a great way to think about it is just how the media always mixes up people of Color. It's the same thing is happening. Essentially with a facial recognition so like they can't recognize In black politicians will get confused or storms and. Likud was confused by a newspaper. Wants the same things essentially happening with facial recognition? I if it's trained on primarily Caucasian faces. It'll be great at differentiating between them But if it's not training enough talk faces or or the kinds of faces It's just not GonNa work as racist outcomes just missing pointing to think about racism in general. I think the outcome not the intention is on like the younger. That's racist is that the outcome's produced. My mom are racist. How ACCOMPANIES OR PEOPLE? Who are building. This allowed to do that in a way. If they know they're told this is causing a problem. How come you talked about processes? In terms of practices. How comes an process in there? That says that this needs to be solved a particular way. So from the regulation of the Tech Sector generalists fifty million worshiping. That's one part of it. Is Diversity question? I recommend a really good book that I'm reading at the moment. Called Grace after technology by Benjamin and she looks at how technology perpetuates white supremacist. Society is super interesting highly recommended but she talks about how divesting sex is. Another reason why these things are always one example. She mentions is the Malcolm X. booed about in America and how the people working on on Google maps might some Google maps. It didn't say Malcolm X. Content Programme Raymond to recognize revenue things our program. My people think about Roman numerals more than making to our letters can have these kind of impacts on The products we use every day. So that is issue is diversity. Are there any other many people of color working news fields one thing? I just want to say to stick back to that okay. So you're developing a product. You want to be good. You want it to be as sick as it can be. You've realized as a flaw in the system forget regulation in terms of your own values on how you value your work and the quality why you still not changing it up. So I have a lot of pro- probably unpopular reason. I generally think I've one who's in the tech sector. Now is necessarily the smartest. You should be that right. I think that people have the most ability to take risks. So if you'll creating a tech start up any kind of startup especially textile ups. I'm you need to have a lot of capital and be able to take a risk on failure right and therefore the people you have involved in that Johnny Richer. More privileged people going into that field for the field is dominated by privileged. People are very on diverse field. If you're someone who's in poor background own perhaps it's not the cultural norm to do tech startups. Might you expect Proper profession. I even have fear of his people in that field and therefore I don't think we necessarily have smart people who are building these products also. We should remember that The people behind these products have biases as well. Right say points. Remember that facebook began from a project. So you compare the looks of women on the Harvard campus. It's a mock greatest things you rate hall not women in Harvard and then it sped into facebook the people have a low biases in this in this field level. Not only would they not think about send things they might also care about things so yeah in terms of this and let regulation. Do you think it's just the fact that like lots of governments. Just don't have that kind of power up against you know these huge companies with many of them who are like have more. Gdp open more money than like countries. I mean I think the power of the tech companies is definitely a big factor and I looked at a couple of years ago and one of the big issues is the fact that all these social media platforms such a core part of our infrastructure if you think about what regulation is in practice and day-today life take an example of a takeaway. Let's Say Korea was disregarding health and safety standards. That's Acre be. Shut Down Right. The final sanction often in regulations to shut something now campaign. Finance accounts could be shut down. A school could be taken special measures if the underperforming and this happens already with child pornography sites revenge pornography sites. They can get shut down. By bt Sky that service providers you can mandate them to block websites but when it comes to a social media like facebook and twitter. I think any government will be brave enough to go there and say Dan even temporary because the same much over society is dependent on these platforms are businesses that run online They've become such a key part of our society so I I do think that definitely the power of these. These companies is a huge barrier to regulation after our chat on deep fakes. We then turn to the way. The meaning of language itself is being faked within technology. How words a CO opted by the tech industry to mean something entirely different. One of the things I've been thinking about the past couple of years to word specifically so the words open and closed which is used a lot by people especially in the tech policy field. They'll talk about open source platforms and the word. Open naturally has positive vibes around right. It's an inviting time and closed. Its negative one and I think this language basically is part of the issue because Apron sends. The incident. Is Quiet Libertarian phrase anti-regulation one one thing I've been looking at particularly the wet civil and uncivil whereas civil is closed and uncivilized open. And what would that look like? What would a civil incident look like so I do think that language is really important? Part of it and I think it's poppy ideology actually over the Internet. So there's something that was published in the nineties called Am Declaration for the Independence of cyberspace and this was kind of like a manifesto for the Internet and essentially what it said was the governments of the world. This is space now. Leave US alone decoctions here and I think the ideology has really infiltrated the entire space to the space of language as well where the language is quite libertarian. As I think this is a really big problem does need to be pushed back against if we want to have a civil intimate with with regulation and this was not expected offline society. What's next for you now more? So where is your kind of target aiming for twenty twenty in this area so we're working on two projects currently so the first one is on deep fix? We're looking at the four key charges so there's detection regulation what kind of regulation needs to be in place at something with allies dividend which is a phenomenon where deep fakes proliferates and become so realistic indiscernible from real video. So you can have real footage of genuine scandal dismissed as deep frank. I'm the fourth challenges. Damage-limitation or seeming or regulations fail writer's responsibility life for dealing with the consequences included mental health impacts on the victims. So report looking at this four areas trying to come up with some solutions and the second project we're working on is looking at the facial recognition surveillance on two groups and we'll be paying a report on the next few months. Ideally trying to pressure way at temporary ban on technology until all of these questions are answered. 'cause Carney transparency how well these systems actually work that the Metropolitan Police for example claims zero racial bias zero racial bias in the NFL Cameras which goes against every other studies. Say there's a lot of questions we answered that I think thanks so much to wreak for taking the time to talk to us you can find out more about the work of future adequacy at future advocacy dot com now. Onto our profile of safety Juca a comedian and writer from London who CO HOSTS GROWN UP LAND ON BBC radio four and has appeared on channel. Four's riot girls. Eight out of ten cats and comedy central she's a young exciting new talent but it's been grafting away for years as a writer performer and presenter her twenty eighteen. Edinburgh fringe show Venus so her nominated for the Best Newcomer Award and she gave numerous five star reviews for the show she is the Creator and host of the acclaimed comedy night wacky racists and in two thousand nineteen was nominated for best newcomer at Dave's Edinburgh Comedy Awards. I spoke to her over skype to find out more about her route into comedy. I was definitely not always hashtag agenda. I was really shy at school. I was really shy. I was really bookish. I was really like kind of nerdy. I was so like the I was just made nervous by all kinds of social situations and I think I'm not the kind of person that people like. We always knew you were going to be a comedian. I think I'm the person that people are like Irena even now probably but yeah definitely wasn't something that you would have lined up in the in the book of fake for me has. I've also seen your comedy central skit survival tips for all girls school. Which is brilliant here law. You Cheer can fuck off. I went to an all girls school in order to survive. You need to be an athlete. My clear was the quickest of the mall because we did everything together. We rolled Scott's the same way we started trends. We owned the ground floor bathroom. Wow that is such a lovely purple. I try that. Oh no sorry. It's it's mine yes. We were inseparable bucks on the first day via ten. Everything changed so I get back from the holidays and I'm super excited to hang out with my friends again is say hey. What are we going to see today? And they start laughing and one of them said you mean. What do you get today? I was speechless. That meant that I was out of the guy so I sort of tried to style it out by pretending I'd gone in there to wash my hands. It was probably one of those horrible things that's ever happened to be a toilet which say accepting just walked out data that lives out of the gang into the world and I love in the skit where you're like this. I should have said you know. It's always one of those things like I should have said that I should have said that. Yeah I mean what's Nice about being comedian now and like having any profile. Oh okay cool. Things on television is that I am sometimes like those bitches could see me. Try to learn my lines in the office. Toilets can custodio record. Yeah I think it's nice to be like like it's kind of been for something and you. I think when you're young you don't you have to back yourself like I definitely didn't always about my but you about yourself because no one else really believes what you can dig seven done anything yet so everything seems like a mad dream until you do it and it's nice now to be working in something that I love and gain to let you get paid to go on stage and be silly and just recently the Guardian listed you as the Sistine Chapel for best online coach self-isolation. So there were just a few people in there. That's pretty Nice Can you just tell me? How did you feel when you found out about that? Best online coach for self-isolation. Well actually me. And the SISTINE CHAPEL GO WAY BACK. We have very similar. Were both very big in Europe. So it wasn't actually that much surprise. It's really nice. I think it's nice. Nice says a very inadequate word but it's very cool to know that people are watching like I used to write stories and songs and jokes like no notebooks in right down my secrets. And you kind of get used to the idea that no one's really listening to you if your kid or even if you're someone that you don't think people care about to some degree like young or a black woman wherever people aren't necessarily as interested in my view because other people set the discourse so it's kind of an alarming surprise but a nice one to know that people are watching what you're doing. I'm finding it funny or attractive. Yeah and on that. So best coacher for self-isolation what you've been up to if you've been reading anything or watching or listening to one thing that you wanNA share. Oh yes okay. So I- binge watched feel-good which is may Martin's new Sitcom I think it's valuable on Channel Four here and net flex everywhere else is so good. I think it proves that people need to stop when once accessible thing happens especially if it comes from minority people are like we need to find the next fleabag but I think just people creighton work on their own terms and it being really authentic voice is always going to be successful and I think feel good really is that it's really painful but really awesome. Funny show the trapped. I just sent this morning to to people that it does slap and is A. Bob is a bit from the south. I think that's cool by Moloto and I think I'm going to be bumping tunes in my room during lockdown. Because I can't go outside. I would highly recommend that track if you like hip hop and so you've also had loads of great shows coming up and you'll hit show Venus. That's the one that you were going to be touring. How does it felt kind of have all this influx or have? You kind of surprised yourself. In how you've dealt with different cancellations due to the way I feel about it. Is that kind of just write? All this came to a head. I had quite a different difficult time. Personally there was lots of really big stuff happening like family and relationships that I didn't have any control over and it was a very stressful time. And then on top of that the whole world seemed to go wild and I think it's hard. It's hard like at the start. The Sierra was like okay. I'm going to be like living off comedy or working freelance. And I'M GONNA make these decisions for my future and now for everyone. That's going out the window but I think there's a kind of common to sledding recognizing that I don't have any power over what's going to happen in the wider world means that I can think about all the exciting things and ways that I can express myself now unreached people now and that is that's cool because it's kind of limitless. I mean there are some very clear. Limits and a government government mandate lockdown. It's kind of opens up a new way to be and gets yeah. It gets me to retain what's important about the path I was on and the hopefully create something different for the future and you said during a comedy central sketch with fellow comedian. He's that you have to force yourself to spend time alone again just on that like. How are you kind of dealing with self-isolation? At the moment many of us you know thrive when around People New Environment. I know being around people is hard because I think being a performer. You give out a lot of energy but you also get a lot of it from like applause or indifference or just like the reactions of people that you feed what they want and he wants to give it to them and now you don't even like you kind of have to set that up yourself. You're like am I going to zoom co with my Auntie to make myself feel good or like cheese something today. So I'm spending a lotta time alone. I lived with a housemate so I'm not completely alone but I think it's nice to know that you don't disappear when people aren't looking at year and even though it was in the context of like horrible things happening all over the world. I think those of us who do all we can do is follow instructions and stay inside and take care of each other. Those of us who've been given this chance pause will really appreciate it and even miss parts of it when it's gone so I'm trying to. I'm trying to ray rice all down so that I can make the most of my life when I get out of the cage in your ideas a funny thing about privilege. You kind of urged people to start checking their privileged but not necessarily in the kind of conventional obvious ways that you'd think about what privileges I suppose. My question is what were you trying to say here about the kind of nuances of privilege. And do you think it's kind of getting lost? I think it's been so long since certain people were listened to that can kind of be this eagerness to clap back. All the kind of oppression microaggressions or frustrations that oppress people or minority. People have been experiencing ages and in a lot of cases the the like the enemy in comas is like whiteness. The Patriarchy but that doesn't mean that everyone who falls into that group is an enemy I think generally people are allies. Just load of people who both befall out inside and outside of your group aren't necessarily as wherever the things that you've been particular had to go through and I think I consider myself to be a really privileged person at the same time as being like a black woman and a person of color and I think it's my responsibility to kind of keep changing spaces that are dominated by those people to create opportunities for people that don't fit into that category and let them kind of take center stage so I think basically it all boils down to calling people in not calling them out and while it is really fun to Bash. Whiteman the conversation CON and they're like but it's interesting about that 'cause I think from kind of point of view from women like ourselves. I get what you're saying that we need to be checking that expose also if you look at it from a from a different level. I suppose from a kind of institutional level or that kind of thing or organizations of the time they might think that having diversity for instance literally means having those faces as opposed to seeing who those people are and where they kind of come from so in a way that privilege and checking and being aware of it does that also for you work both ways as well no in terms of not just internally with minorities for instance are women but also in terms of how organizations and people interact with what they think isn't privilege. Yeah I think that companies and institutions realize that diversity is something that they need to consider in order to look good they can't seem like they're outdated dusty institutions. But I think there's a of glamour of Sir very visible types of Diversity and I think what we need to think about. More is representation like a lot of companies are atrocious in how they accommodate people who are disabled Because it takes a lot of money and a lot of time to rethink how people work. How people building how people access services like involves a huge? It doesn't take necessarily as much to get an able bodied middle-class black person to be in your like photo your website that doesn't mean that those two groups are odds there were lots of people of color who are disabled. There are lots of like people who fit into one category or know someone in more than one category. But I think that it's great that there are certain. Groups have been vocal enough to get attention and funding and support by institutions. But I think institutions need to not want to feel like a sort of quota or a requirement for the representation but they need to think about how their entire system works and how welcoming is to everyone at the same time rather than the quick fixes. You studied French and English Oxford. And you got right into it by joining the Oxford IMPs which is improvisational comedy group. And how was that environment? And how'd you? That helped your career. What was that like so yeah? I was part of the Oxford University. Which is a cult. It was it was a great call to be a part of. It was something that I did not really know existed before I went to university. So many things like Improv Pesto. I did not really know about before I went to but in the UK. Improv is a traditional part of comedy that the most prominent evidence of it has been like. Whose LINE is it. Anyway which is mainly done by white cysts man but it's really democratic in that you can create any environment you can play any character you have endless options who you choose on status before and I think it gave me the confidence to kind of forget about all the things that were holding me back and just enjoy being on stage and being funny so I think that was an amazing. It was an amazing part of my life. It's great so many really great performers in the U. K. Comedy Industry today for such a small group. I feel really lucky to them apart. And in your comedy sometimes mentioned your mom routines which like seriously makes me laugh so much and your heritage is Cameroonian Ghanaian. Tell me How does your mom feel about you? Now in your work as a comedian. I think my mom was very worried all the time. I've been like working freelance pretty much since I graduated been working behind the scenes in TV and production and kind of hopping from job to job because there is no security in the industry. But she didn't get that. I wasn't just repeatedly being fired or losing work. That that's just how people in the creative industries tend to function. So it's Kinda like you spend all this money like a fancy fees or fancy university and then it's like war like what kind of security getting from it. My Mom's always been happy for me and what I do but walk the way I do. It hasn't always been something that's been familiar to her. And I think that it was always important for me to try and fulfill those ideals at the same time to try and make money to try and be stable and I think it even though I've been lucky in comedy. I think it's taken me longer than some other people to be like. This is what I want to do because I was so scared of disappointing. Some sort of expectation that she and my family had for me but the more I kind of own up to who I am or how he wants to do things. I realized that she's just delighted for me and she'll invite the huskies to all my shows which really kills a show. I don't know how to behave in a in an audience. That's good comedy shouldn't be just be the preserve people who know how to know that they should turn off their phones and not talk constantly so nice that they've come to your shows wicked. Is it make you nervous having your teeth and your mom and everyone coming to the shows well. I have a bad of a bad habit of coming out to family members of my committee because my family is very loving very supportive and I. I love them to bet but there are certain things that wasn't necessarily spoken off when I was younger. I think that was. I think there's certain stuff about my life that I thought was a need to know basis that I didn't ever have open conversations with my mom or other people in my family about and I was really nervous about it sort of coming to light by doing this. We just talk about it and I didn't want my particularly to find out by accident or through someone else about parts of my identity that I hadn't shared her so having my aunties who individually invite because I did what my show is to go well but having my aunt he's come to my show and watch my show and just be kind of nothing like complementary and loving and you know over the top afterwards is like gives me an amazing feeding of acceptance and even though. I haven't been that brave enough to invite everyone in my family to see me perform. I hope that like the joy they can see that it gives me and it gives other people is like enough for them to see that as a reward. I I feel very loved and I feel very lucky so back to comedy now. Who would you say your comedy heroes or they any schizoid routines? That has really kind of stayed with you throughout the years. It's always so hard to pick comedy heroes because I mean you know there are so many I think probably the first black woman that I was aware of like watching being funny was like did you see her. Nhs video recently what? My mom sent it to me. It was my mom. Send it to me and and she was like soapy is. This is this a comedian. And how you like. I don't know what happened to your brain old. Actually what's sponsored or like the Lenny? Henry show like every week for how you just like. Who is this? How did you get this clear? The GIULIETTA is clip about the NHS if it was the what about how all the newspaper Coverage Serrano Brown faces when not what the Tesla's like I think she's wonderful. I think she's people spoke to me. I recently did a job cruise. It was like the first grade I've ever wound on and I probably only agreed because it was lesbian crews in the French Italian Riviera and I was like I have to find out what this is like and then right the Sitcom and it was very scary but very fun. A lot of people referenced. Comedians that they are people that they see on the boat ages ago before anyone knew that they were out. People like Gina or Ruby rose and I think that there's obviously they've they've been quick. Comedians will quit for MS and black comedians before them. But I think trailblazers have a really important part to play the people coming up through an industry and Gina Stephanie. One for me but then like since then there have been so many people that have helped me and like been. Inspirations people like Frankie Boyle or Sara Pascoe or Josie long does birch and these people. Now I'm like we are friends or at least is and it's amazing to be creating work at the same time as them but they did earlier points. Their careers was just so such a gift to be able to see someone like that have you. Do you have any projects that you're sort of planning right now yes I do. I have so many products bubbling away. I hope that will eventually see the light of Day south that you can listen to you. Right now is my poly-amorous and I recorded like some like recorded documentary on poly-amorous which is hopefully tasty way for people to think about all the activity. They're not gonNA be engaging in that out so that just that just dropped. That just came out. It's called the Book Marie and it's real short like me and there are some very cool people on Rubira Kate Smith where he was a comedian talking about non monogamy great calamity I'm doing a lot of writing for stuff. That probably won't be out immediately. But uh why he racist which is the live comedy night that I do will be finding ways onto the Internet. So you should follow it if you can dislike the work of people like. Oh God like Hema Bob Jane Roni or like Juan like we're going to be supporting all of them. You can just get involved with wacky racist as a thing and you'll have access to so many amazing comedians. I hope to keep working with the people that I've been working with ages so our hopes keep working with plate. People like album keeps US Louis membership model like I want people to keep support angry. It's like the low word and Wacky and fuck it up within comedy. Because they're all like they're all started by passionate young people that just love the love our audiences and the people we work with saying look at my name on the BBC. Follow me on Instagram and twitter and come and see me at the South Bank at that show guest pill again that was safey. Juke speaking with stance. That's it from stance. I'm Chris Genesis and thank you very much for listening. We really hyped. Stay safe if you enjoy this episode of stance. Please subscribe and rights to review. You can find us at starts. 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Effectively Wild Episode 1522: Booking It

"They didn't do it between the spokes leading them at home unattended with my folks about to say never tossed devas. Oh collecting say waiting. Ho Been Dreaming Praying top clear. Don SPLAINE I'm so glad my mom and Dad Drunk Way and welcome to episode fifteen twenty two of effectively wild a baseball podcast from Dan graphs presented by our supporters of the ring joined by similar of ESPN. Hello Sam. Baseball is not happening right now but baseball books are. This is prime time for baseball books coming out and we are about to speak to the author of one of them. It is out today. April first is called the wax pack on the Open Road in search of baseball's afterlife. I read an advance copy. I loved it genuinely. I liked the book a lot and its author. Is Brad Baluchi? Who JOINS US now? Hello Bread Hey guys and then you taught me. The word is buildings Roman. Say How can you read? Let's read Ben's can can to someone have bins blurb in. I do it to hear this bill buildings Roman saturated blurb. This is what my publisher took from what I know. This is the whole thing but this is what they put on the back cover. I think it is Baluchi. Cross country cardboard based Buildings Roman reminds us that baseball's best stories or sometimes told by and about players who have long since left the league there. Yep if I believed that I would have squeezed in picturesque picturesque Ron. Right exactly. Yeah so the book is published by University of Nebraska. Press and later in the episode. I will be talking to the acquiring editor. Who picked up the Book Rob Taylor? Because University of Nebraska press is just a hotbed of Baseball publishing publishes a lot of great books and published yours in sort of plucked it off the heap of books out there. People are trying to get them published and can't always and you had a bit of an Odyssey to get this thing in print which surprises me in that. It's a very good book and deserve to be published but also sort of doesn't in that there are so many people trying to publish baseball books and a lot of publishers. Don't think baseball books are all that appealing. So this story just to summarize it for everyone essentially you were kind of at a critical juncture in your life. You were trying to decide where to go and what to do so. In the meantime you opened up a pack of baseball cards or in the interest of full disclosure multiple packs of baseball cards and you decided to track down all the players you drew and see him in person and find out what they were doing and what they'd been up to since they had retired. This was an old pack of baseball card so all these players were long retired. Some stars some marginal players that you probably haven't heard of and then you crisscrossed the country to track them down and it was all about that Odyssey and what these players taught you about their lives so I want to ask you about your own. Odyssey to getting to this point. Obviously this is not an ideal time to have a book. Come out when bookstores are closed. But you've been pulling out all the stops to promote it and you've got a lot of big name Burgers on board not even me. I'm surprised you found space for me on this back. Cover because you've got some other big names on here but it seems like there's a lot of interest in the book justified interests. So how and why did it take a while to get this published in? How did finally get into print? Yeah it's a great question. It was So the trip is. I took the took the trip in two thousand Fifteen Ozzy's two thousand twenty so you might wonder. Why is there this long gap there and so when I took the trip? I didn't have in advance. I didn't have a contract for a book. I had the idea I knew what I wanted to do with the story and so I go on the trip. I have you know I drive. Eleven thousand miles in seven weeks. I come back. Got Piles of notes in interviews to transcribe and I spent the next almost probably the next year. A little bit less. Basically crafting the proposal to to go out to publishers and we went out and very limited way to a few publishers. You know going to the Big Five in New York and tested the waters and they kinda universally liked the idea but they were like now. It's still not. It's not really hitting the right notes in here. Some feedback and at that point the book I do think it was. I was sort of struggling to to find some of the overarching meeting of the book. So I went back and did a mass rewrite and then came back again. Many months later and my agent at the time said You Know I. I really don't think this is where it should be like you. Basically he was pushing me to take myself out of the book and he thought it needs to be more of a straight baseball book and I disagree. I always felt like you know the same way you guys were. Were active characters in your book. The only rule I felt like in order for this book to work the way I wanted it to which was to be more than a baseball book to be this narrative that I think could be go beyond baseball that a needed. Some kind of connective tissue some kind of overarching narrative. I thought that my character was was the was the way to do that. And so I got a lot of pushback not just from him but from people in the publishing industry that were saying well we really liked inter nonfiction. When the the author takes back seat they should just be these. There shouldn't be in the story. I was told you know you don't have a platform. No one knows who you are. You don't have. I mean who cares about you. Why should you so ever you know just just a lot of and then when we actually went out more broadly later on. I got a different agent. And we're not more broadly and I got a couple of editors that were really great champions of the of the book but as short as you guys know you kind of have to get universal buy-in from the to`real board to get green lit on on a book deal and I was basically told Is Great writing is a great idea? But we've run all the numbers. We don't think we can sell enough copies and the first number of weeks to justify whatever so it was very demoralizing after you know the projections piled up in but I never like I started to think. Maybe I'm crazy. Maybe this really. Isn't that good. Like I kept believing in the book that I knew I could do and so I just point was like do I just shelve it but I decided no. I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go to a smaller publisher. And that's when I reached out to University of Nebraska and Rob Taylor and he immediately was like this is great. Let's let's do it so you know actually wrote most of the book in about five months so it was like once I actually. I knew I could do it. I was able to sit down and crank it out. So nineteen eighty-six tops right. How did you pick the card set? And I guess if you can wet people's appetites it's not really a spoiler to say who's in the book right because it's all about the journey and the question of whether you're going to track these guys down and whether you will actually get an audience with them so if you can name the names of the players that you picked and how you came up with this idea that might be eliminating. Yeah sure so as I talked about in the book. I'm definitely an outlier. A weirdo different. Strange guy in the sense that I always. I never followed the crowd like my favorite things as a kid. Were never the things other people liked. And so my favorite baseball players were Marty Barrett in spite going and Don Carman Don Carman being my favorite and so and I you know actively collateral if you guys remember back in your collecting days that actively collect the common cards no one wanted and so when I saw the the pack the Wax Pack. I thought well. This is a great device for a book because you get the randomness of the thrill of Whoever's in there that you're gonNA write about and I just knew that. By probability most of the guys would be common guys and that we give me a chance to write about those players like no whatever. Read a book about just on Carmen but if he's bundled with this bigger kind of high-concept thing than I could. I could do that. So it was sort of like self-indulgent in that in that way But in terms of who I got it was It was a good mix of the more journeyman guys rants Mullenix Lima Zilly Gone Carmen Randy Ready. All the way up to sort of semi stars like a Vince Coleman or Garry Templeton and that you had dot gooden and Carlton Fisk as probably the two most famous right so I spoil. What happens when you try to track these guys down but there are some heartwarming stories? There's some sad and bittersweet ones there some guys who give you great advice and wisdom and welcome you into their homes and just say. Why don't we have dinner? Another guys who kinda brush you off and make it difficult for you to contact them. I guess if you could maybe give us your favorite wax packer your favorite story from this journey and just also whether you think there's any correlation really between the career that a player has and how interesting a person he is or how interesting and after the fields portion of his life. He has because some of the more marginal players in the book that you drew. I think have maybe the most interesting stories are sometimes the most interesting things to say which I found to be true when doing interviews on the podcast to is that if you try to get a super star in the show A. It's harder to do that. Be They. May Be speaking cliches because they constantly have people trying to get interviews with them. They've said everything they've been asked everything whereas the more marginal guys aren't really used to have people wanting to talk to them and so all material is fresh right not really rehearsed so. I wonder whether you found that to be true. Absolutely I the guys that were much more interesting from a literary perspective. Were the guys that were the more the underdog types in the journeymen and you know they hadn't been asked like you said they had asked his much on their egos. I don't think didn't get the better them as much. So I found that much more relatable but I think what what really surprised me the most in a really was kind of touching was how how. Open these guys were because as as you said baseball players. Are you know famously train to speak in cliches? And Not really let their guard down but what I found was I was able to really get these guys to open up and develop vulnerable about some really personal things. One of the common themes is the strained relationships. They have with their fathers and Rick sutcliffe talking about his father who was a professional race. Car driver Basically walking out on the family when he was a kid and how that made him so angry in in some ways may have made him a better baseball player. Because he says you know guys like Drysdale and Colfax didn't intimidate him at all when he got to dodger cap as a rookie because nothing can scare him after what his dad did to him and he put up that hard exterior Don Carman. The Guy said he was my favorite player. I met him at a zoo. In Naples Florida and again it was surreal to. This is a guy that I you know. I collected his cards plaques made of him I wrote him a birthday car when I was like nine or ten and here I am now meeting as an adult and within an hour of meeting him we are. You know he's telling me about in getting very emotional talk about house basis. Father abused him and how much angry had from from that. So those stories really. I thought the highlight of the process in terms of getting to these guys to to open up. Yeah and if I'm right in my blurb if this is kind of coming of age story did you come age. Was there something about this experience that taught you something about yourself or about life? Yeah for sure I mean I I always wanted to be careful not to make this contrived or try to like shoehorn. Some you know eat pray love style. I mean it's wasn't gonNA find the meaning of life in seven weeks on the road right but I think what I did a couple of things that I realized where that one that we all have a lot more in common with baseball players. We realized that it kind of demystified. The hero thing for me a little bit where you know. I remember what it was like to see these guys as a hero as a kid for being these larger than life figures but then to me to see how much I could relate to them as an adult and like the same things that that I struggle with. We all struggle with are things they're going through or they've gone through it. It was a it was a nice thing to take away from the book to feel in a way closer to these players on a human level. Not so much in the context of a baseball. So we've brought you here to play a game about your book kind of about Your Book and so two of the themes of this book. I think that that really came through to me while I was reading. It is one that these players have very long lives after their career. You know they're quote unquote. Career is over like they have entire careers after and some of those careers are coaching base for the Astros but some of them are being a realtor being a teacher or doing other things in the game trying to find their way. You know they're alive for a really long time and they're still interesting humans and You know like a big part of what made your book so charming as you went out and you ask them about what they've been doing once. They were no longer on camera. The another theme of Your Book. I think I read this at the same time I read. Lords of the realm and one of the weird things about lords of the realm is that there's all these players that are in key players characters from like the late sixties and early seventies during the Labor wars who now they are managers or broadcasters or politicians and you're like reading about them as players in you're like Oh yeah I mean. He was clearly destined to be a broadcast was really funny even then or he was destined to be a politician. He was really active in the Union. Or a he was a leader he was to be a manager and then he became a manager and your book has a little bit of that too. A lot of that too were where they are at what. What are these guys? Fifty late fifties a lot of them where they are in their late fifties. It sort of really does kind of seem consistent with where they were as players in their early twenties or in their thirties to the extent that we knew them. And so we're going to play a game called let's P- remember some guys and were going to imagine if you wrote this book in Twenty Five years and you opened up a pack of cards and you looked each of these players up and you know you've found that one of them was say a manager. Who which active player would we guess that that person would be like? Basically we're saying of active players. Who Do we think might be a manager? We are going to be very bad of this. We have no way of knowing this in fact I would say a third theme of your book is that you don't really know these players when they're under the spotlight to really get to know them you kind of have to take them to a diner thirty years later and talk to them when they're guard is down and when they're matured and when they've had some time to learn a little bit about themselves so we don't really know but I think there are clues or maybe we're GONNA find out if there are clues and so we're going to see if we can have some guesses for who these people are going to be in the future all right all right. It sounds fun but just disclaimer. You go yeah we have no idea you have no idea. You're going to be terrible. I will probably yeah. I'm going to be band is going to be Ben specifically told there's going to be terrible at it. That's totally fine. By the way speaking of this Victor Martinez I read. Today has a horse in the Kentucky Derby this year. Assuming there's a Kentucky Derby. Ken Rosenthal reported this in so if we had had horse owner of professional horse owner. What do they call them? What do they call a prize? Horse Adam than Victor Martinez. A couple of years ago would have been the guests. So that's how that's the game right. Who's going to own a horse in the Kentucky Derby not one of the categories but here we go all right I would have said Johnny Cueto for that one. He's big on the horses on it but they don't. They're not pictures of health. Okay good point all right first. One inspired by Rans Mullenix. Who was the first person who visited? Who will be a local realtor or else another chamber of Commerce style local business? So like I'm thinking like Andre Dawson. For instance owns a funeral home. That's a chamber of Commerce type of business I would say Realtor chamber like a booster for the community. If you're a I would say a state lawyer is a Chamber of Commerce type. Business owner salesman. Would that count if you own a dealership only if you're active like CJ Wilson owns dealerships? But I don I mean a lot you have to be you got to sell. You gotTA close. If you're not closing deals to me doesn't it doesn't count now. If you own a used car lot I would say own a garage would count car dealership. Bitings much all right. So we're talking. We're talking hyper local. Small business owner all right. Okay and This one's a tough one. Okay so brad do you have. Do you have a pick I do I do? Yes is it. I would go with Eric. So Guard Eric Zogar. That's a good pick. Yeah he's A. CPA. Right I see him. I can see him at the holiday party. You know just kind of by the Punchbowl C. E. Kinda has that small town charm field whom that's a good one. I've been. Do you have a guess? Yeah I'm GonNa go with Dan Vogel Bach. I like him as a realtor because a he's a first baseman he's always chatting people up that's sort of part of the jaw may or pair you well sure that occupation. And he's very much a people person he kind of crosses barriers in the clubhouse. Apparently he's like best friends with you. Say Kukuchi like you say Kukuchi named his son after the Novo back you know. There's obviously a language barrier there. In reading from Corrie Brooks article about vocal bucket. The athletic like all the other players. Kids play with Vogel back when they're at the park like he's just the guy everyone gets along with and he is not a star which I think helps no. He was literally an all star this past year. But you know not one with the highest expectations and Brad as you pointed out when I emailed you this list of occupations. It is less likely now that a player would end up being a realtor or some small business owner than it was in the era of the players that you were trying to seek out here because players are making such major money right now if they're in the majors for any significant amount of time that they don't actually have to do this so it has to be someone who would want to do it. Who just wants the socializing and the glad-handing and so I'm going with Daniel Volga Buck. That's I'm glad you mentioned that Ben. Because I also thought that it would have to be somebody who wanted to do it and I struggled with this. I'll tell you my pick as Lance mccullers. Who is way too good for for a realtor work unless you think he really wants to be real and so I was. I was with all of these. I had a hard time Anna with this book. It's interesting because in a sense. This is the first group the first generation of players that got really rich playing baseball. And they got rich enough that like Carlton Fisk never has to come down from his castle and see you but also there are a generation before they're getting as rich super super rich right like you mentioned Don Carman as an underdog Don Carman made one point nine million dollars the his time the most active pitcher on Don Carman's comps at baseball references travis. Would who retired a couple of years ago and he made twenty two million dollars. And I don't you besides that there's the fact that players today are. They're publicly known before they even get drafted their scout. They're rated by the public as prospects throughout their minor league career. They have much more of a to some degree of a national profile because of how much of their existence is supported by fantasy baseball players. The fact that all games are nationally broadcast on. Mlb TV. So they aren't just local stars and so. I wondered whether the player whether the experiences that you had with your players would be replicable in twenty five years at all whether there are any Commons in major league baseball today so I struggled with that but that is all to say You know I I if you think about lottery winners I think that probably of people who win the Lotto like seventy percent retire and just our professional hobbyists for the rest of their life and maybe fifteen or twenty percent devote themselves to some creative endeavor for philanthropic endeavor that they really care a lot about and now they finally have the financial resources. Do but then I think ten percent don't even quit their job. They just keep going in and like stocking vending machines because they like they like work. They like whatever they. There's something about that personality that I can't personally relate to most of us I think. Probably Campers only relate to but they just like being out there in public with a role to play and to me Lance mccullers. The first name I thought of it seems like a burs new genuinely likes being around people and would not want that by the way one last thing about this. We're assuming that nobody. Who makes twenty million dollars will want to be a realtor and work for I duNno? Realtors make what realtors make successful ones. Maybe make one hundred thirty thousand medium ones. Maybe make sixty thousand. I'm guessing we're assuming they wouldn't want to do that. But almost every baseball player including many super rich ones take jobs as coaches where they get paid about the same right and they work until they retire so most players even today do not actually retire and go lounge about in repose for the rest of their lives they actually do get up everyday and put on a little uniform and go to work that keeps them close to the game which it does right. Yeah no it's true. I wasn't sure whether that gives evidence to theory that there will still be realtors like rants Mullenix or not but anyway Lance mccullers. All right I was prepared to talk for that one the rest of making up. Okay all right. Small Town Mayor Small Town Mayor. Well this is a pretty uninformed is this based on his look I just I put down Mike Dacas. Oh okay all right. I'm taking yet your Molina. Which maybe he's setting his sights to low. If it's small town mayor he could be mayor of Saint Louis if you wanted to. He could rise to some higher political office. Probably but I think I could very easily see him retiring to Puerto Rico and just you know the the Molina name is so legendary that if you just put his name on the ballot probably be elected without having to campaign or do anything any might like it. We have seen some players become local politicians after they retire from baseball. Like well. Relevancy comes to mind although he also comes to mind for corruption and getting indicted and I think possibly being imprisoned or at least sentenced to a prison sentence so i. I don't think that Molina would go that way but I just think he has the status and could easily do it if he wanted to like. I thought about Mike Trout. As mayor of Millville for instance. I could imagine that put. I just don't know if he would want to be in that very small spotlight. He might just want to go to his local diner without having to worry about politics but yet her Molina. I could see it just as sort of a a status thing in his hometown. Yeah I thought about Madison Bumgarner. Just because he is the person most associated with a small town in all of baseball right now Andrew Mb. He is most associated with a second job at this point in all of baseball. Yeah so seemed plausible that he would go back and be the king of kings of Madison Bumgarner. Ville and But I ended up going with Stephen Vote who is from by Salia. I believe which is up near. You've read the area and it's definitely a small smallish town And he is extremely personable extremely social beloved in every clubhouse he's ever stepped in and beloved really for years after he leaves a residue of of loveliness clubhouses and so. He seemed to me to best embody what Sean Casey did when they used to call him the mayor and I think I vaguely recall. Vote being talkative from behind the plate when he was catching I. It's only vaguely that I I think I remember that I remember some catcher from that generation of a couple years ago a having reputation all right all right. What about a national politician? A big shot? Yeah I got Sean doolittle thought about every category on here. I thought is this. Where I'm putting Sean doolittle? This is where I put Sean. I thought about Kris Bryant. Enter or something. He came to mind but will just been so outspoken compared to the typical baseball player that I could see I also could that. I wasn't sure whether national office would be what he would see as most As the best way for him to affect the world you know like I could see him doing. A lot of powerful things in you know voting on On judges or whatever. I didn't know if that was how he would choose to channel his energy but is a good pick. I went with Brent suter. I have no idea if French suitor is interested in politics or I do know. He's interested in changing the world because he did a Video on MLB With MLB about climate change and He went to Harvard so he grew up in he was born in Chicago and then he he grew up in Ohio and then he went to Harvard and then he went in of course now plays in Wisconsin. And I feel like there's A. There's a boom right now. In presidential candidates who grew up in the middle of the country went to Harvard but then after Harvard returned to the middle of the country. So you know. You've got your Mayor Pete. Then you've got your your Tom Cotton in your Josh Halley There's something about that like going to Harvard. But then going back that seems to like like the the media loves that. Consider you a an instantly credible politician if you do that journey and rent suit or did do that journey. He's also he's very funny. I believe he's even funny in real life. Not just for a baseball player. But I think he's real funny based on the the team movie parodies. That the brewers did which I always found him to be the star that the true charismatic star of in which. If I'm not mistaken he might have actually had a creative role in producing. I'm going with Brent. Suter is being truly funny at asset to a national politician. It's debatable it is debatable. Al Franken was. I think a Minnesota Harvard Soda Guy Bill. Clinton was in was a what was a little rock to Harvard. To Little Rock Guy so Leaving Harvard and going back to the mid West seems like a anyway seed Scott drafted. It's not like he went back to be the Mayor Anyway. See here national broadcaster. I've got Jamie Moyer out interesting. I've never heard his voice. He's not playing. He's not even active. Have you got me? I guess I actually have to cross my not because I had said C C Savannah and he's not active so never mind. Yeah I feel like I was stumped so I just said you went out guess Jamie Moyer. Yeah Yeah I considered Trevor Bauer. Because he certainly seems eager to be in front of the camera and he has been on. Mlb Network but went with Chris Archer because he has done the job. He was in some broadcasts booths and he did a very good job. Everyone seemed to really like him and he seemed to more or less enjoying himself so I don't know whether that's still something he'd be interested in long-term but if it is I could see that happening in his career as a pitcher has sort of stagnated in a way. So maybe that will make more interested in wanting to pursue that. I had at the Ed but my backup is Justin. I don't know. What percentage of national broadcasters are stars but it feels like it's a very high percentage Particularly talking about people who have a career as a national broadcaster over the course of a couple decades so I really limited to the stars in Orlando seems to have a lot to say in his. Broadly inoffensive while also being Fairly funny and so. He seemed reasonable. Also stat savvy these days which is probably going to be a prerequisite for the next generation. All right what about a beloved local team Specific Rod? Gaster all right. Well I had Having watched many games here in the coliseum although he's no longer there I have Josh Radic as kind of ooh like a like a Dallas Brayden. Tight stacy him on those local sports casts doing some kind of pranks or antics silly little gimmicks and stuff. I I would love it. 'cause he's he is very dry and very serious but you never know whether the seriousness is real or an act and I could see enjoying years of not quite knowing whether he was intimidating. Me Or doing a bit one. If you're as big a wrestling fantasy as you gotta have some character in there. That's a great one. I went with Ryan Zimmerman. Who's just Mr National? He is so closely associated with that franchise the first draft pick of the franchise and the walk off when nationals park opened and I think he is the second longest tenured player with one team after Yadira Lena. Now so he's been there forever. I don't have that great a sense of his personality. Frankly and I don't know how interested he would be in the job but I would think that the nationals would wanNA keep him around in some sort of ambassador role and so if he has any interest in broadcasting I would think the job would be. His mine is very different. I have your Sanchez. Who is so? I was trying to think of who today reminds me of micro as a player as being quite outgoing and also inventive did you. Did you guys know that? Might crew co invented the rookie dress up which I think I think God that got Kinda it got out of his control in became something that I think has had to have. A lot of rains put on it because it became problematic but he had. I think we talked about this Ben. One time years ago like six years ago I heard I think Kuyper tell the story of how he brought like. I don't know I think it was like shoes with goldfish annum and had the like platform shoes with goldfish in or something like that or funny cowboy boots and had the rookies where them so he was. You know he was. He was inventing things in your Sanchez. Invented the Self Dow walk-off celebration where he runs out and instead of douses the winning run. He douses himself. Which is very funny to watch your Sanchez. Also something that happens way. Too much to ever be funny is players pretending to be reporters. So like you know. There's eight reporters interviewing a player and ran. A teammate comes up like pretends to ask a question or holds out a water bottle and it is like classic like nod original unfunny baseball player. Stuff is by far the most committed. I've ever seen a person be to that bit. And N N had genuinely had people laughing out loud with his commitment to the bit. So you're Sanchez. Yeah I couldn't decide how good to go with this pick. I mean how good the player should be. Because I think it's SORTA skewed. I grew up watching the Yankees and rooting for the Yankees and the broadcasters at the time and even now were mostly really good players I mean there is the the odd John Flaherty in there. But you had a little bit before my time Phil Rizzuto and then Ken Singleton and Bobby Mercer and Jim Kaat and David Cone Paulo Neil. I mean these are all really great players in most cases better than Ryan Zimmerman if not necessarily as closely associated with the franchise and even across town here with the mets. I think of Ralph Kiner and Ron Darling and Keith Hernandez Great Players. So that may have kind of affected my perceptions here whereas if you grew up listening to Jerry remmy or Dwayne Kuyper or whatever then maybe you kind of think of it as a a former. Marginal player is beloved but was not really a an icon. Yeah I definitely do think of it as a marginal player and I could see how very different depending on what what team. You're you're talking about all right manager future manager this one. This one gets thrown about all the time for active players and so who is an f. Future manager now? Yeah I mean I I think this is changing a lot of the game but you know for a while. So many catchers were managers. So I have Stephen. Vote for this. One yeah there you go ahead Jeff. Mathis who gets mentioned from time to time as a future manager and you just figure when you look at his stat lines that he must have managerial qualities in order to keep his job for this long. So it's gotta be Mathis for me. I thought about math is I have found. That has no personal charisma to me. Part of what makes him so interesting as a pitch whisper is that like? I said he does not seem like he does not happy. Brad Osma face you know like he? He's not talkative. He doesn't seem like he be a leader and so it's hard to meet him giving a speech but probably would have been hard to imagine. Ned Joost even a speech at if you were a fan in the eighties and IOS never had to highway with Yada. You're Molina for this. Might be too good to be. I enter but I just feel like you're looking for obviously you're looking for a catcher's a good starting point someone who's smart and has a reputation of being smart is good. But also I felt like Molina. Just has to way too much competitiveness in him to go you know to go why to to be a what a local mayor could be. Yeah so I just felt like he like. He's not going to be satisfied. Being a robing catching instructor signed going to be satisfied being a hitting coach. Going to be satisfied with anything in the world except being a cat at being a manager in getting injected from seven games a year. Yeah I can see it all right. A scowling hermit like Carlton. Fisk was in your book. I feel like this is like their remorse scowling. Hermits back in that era me too. I had a hard time. I was looking at the list of star players on like that. That's a nice guy like you guys told me you know. These guys need personally more but Just from the baseball optics that I had Madison Bumgarner but Frawley. No he might be like the sweetest guy. I also had bumgarner. I thought about Zach Cranky but I I didn't know if he was scaling really I could certainly see him as a hermit but he hasn't seem ill natured really and bumgarner seems like I mean I don't know that he is necessarily a bad guy or anything but he is kind of a red ass. I would think that if some anonymous person came up to him in thirty years and said Hey. I drew your baseball card. Can I talk to you? 'cause I'm writing a book about it. You would say get off my ranch or whatever so of course we have to save this podcast somewhere. We can actually do this experiment in twenty five years right yes. Of course. Everything's ridiculous checked. Yeah but yeah. I had that same thought. 'cause I don't know if whether it's because players are so accessible now you know with social media and everything that we feel like we know them or they're just sort of forced to speak like you can't really be a hermit anymore because there's just always a microphone in your face and you're kind of a public figure infants expect to have access to you and maybe players are just used to that so they don't even try to be scaling hermit sending more because it's just not really viable so. I don't know if it's that or whether there's just a good crop up stars right now. We're really personable and and young and charismatic. I feel like the Games guidance so much younger in a way that you don't have the washed up angry veterans as much right right. Yeah I had a hard time as well and ultimately I chose that cranky again. I like you. I'm not sure scouring won't be the right adjective on the other hand. He does scowl a bit and I think that when he throws his last pitch he's just gonNA walk straight into the Cornfield and we're never going to see him again. Yes I agree with that. Although he might be a scouter something. That's the other thing it's like. Keep he moonlights as a scout now and he seems interested in politics and play evaluation and all that so he may want remain around the game in some capacity and if he does then he won't be completely inaccessible. All right Extremely rich by other means so basically who is going to make a fortune after the game and these are every once in a while you stumble upon one of these stories of a player who is been retired for thirty five years and invented a kind of algae that like he eats Carbon Dioxide and now is worth like seven billion dollars. I was reading. What's up book called Mint Condition? Is that what it was called the baseball card book from years ago and I didn't realize this but one of the The upper deck the card company was formed in a car shop named upper deck. It was named after the card shop and basically just a couple of local guys were talking about how they should make. Card in one of them was Was like printer and I something like a printer and he said Oh well I can make these glossier here and counterfeit cards. Were a big problem. At the time he said well. I can handle that. I could do this hologram thing you. You can't Counterfeit Hologram is would be way too expensive for counterfeit guard and so while they're planning miss some light low level major league ramming not low level because he was in the majors but like a total scrub with twelve career plate. Appearances or pitching appearances walks in. And they're like hey do you wanna be part of our baseball card company and joined and he was one of the first partners in upper deck and he ended up having a very short career and got like incredibly rich off of upper deck and eventually sued the company as as often happens in books about baseball things. So who will be a entrepreneur or some sort of somehow extremely rich person for non baseball thing? I Have Trevor Bauer. You're okay yeah yeah I think. Bauer would like to think that he'll be this person at this person does emulate you unmask. And maybe he would see that for himself. I went for Ross stripling trend of the show. I suppose in that he has been on it. He is a stockbroker and he invests a pretty heavily and intelligently seemingly and comes from a family of investors. I think we have talked to him a little bit about that. And so I figure for all I know he is already had a a lucrative career. Hopefully he was shorting everything recently. Where else his entire wealth may have just been wiped out but I believe in his ability to accrue non baseball income D Wayne abuse is the pitcher and he made two hundred. Thousand Dollars is a baseball player and seventeen million dollars with upper. Oh I will. I did not have a good answer for this. I couldn't think of a good one. I couldn't really think of a vision. For what would happen. But I picked Yossi El Puig. 'cause I could just imagine him like I can imagine him owning like A. I don't know I could just imagine him doing something on. I think maybe I was too hung up on Ashton Kutcher becoming like a social media mogul and I thought I could imagine somebody making a lot of money using social media in a way that I don't understand and Yasa Seemed like a person. Do I have seen on social media getting lots of likes. Yeah I could see Dislike striking oil or something oil. Baron like there's nothing. I would put past Yasuo pig and I feel like he is A. He is an extremely talented person. Who is in his own way really in control of his image and he feels like he is too restrained by baseball but once he breaks the shackles of baseball. He is going to find his his fortune actually signed him not yet. Okay all right last one who will be a two active baseball dad. So father of a young athlete who maybe has a little bit too much. You know little too little too much little too much. I took us more so this could be like the overeager dad but I took it more as like just the the so nice and so loving dad that he's always going above and beyond. I picked mad void for this. Okay I believe he blurb your book you did and so what I did not to say that because he blurred by when I in my interactions with the guy was just so sweet and I was thinking. Wow this guy I can just see him being like at every game in recital forever. Why did he blurb your book that happen while because he's one of Don Carman's clients and so- Carmen is Scott boruses one of his staff psychologists and I said to Carmen Are there any current guys you work with you? Think would like kind of appreciate this and and some of the themes that I'm going with you again. You Know Matt Boyd Is Someone. Who's super reflective intellectual So that's how that came about. I went with todd. Frazier who just seems. Extremely Dad like he is a dad which is When prerequisite for this position I think he has multiple kids and I read on wikipedia. That his name now graces the little league field in his town. Called Frazier Field House which that seems like maybe put pressure on your kids to be players. Because it's frazier field and you can't embarrass frazier on his field and it just seems like I don't know he's the kind of guy who seems like he would just be calling until like sports talk radio. I don't know he's just he's very New York and I could see him. Being an overactive baseball dead. I was trying to think of someone. Who is the progeny of an overactive baseball dead on the theory that you know like father like son and that may be a player? Would rebel against his dad. Who had been too active as baseball dad but then would find himself. Falling into the same habits would look back and think. Oh no I'm just become like my dad but be unable to escape that cycle of Baseball Dennis. But I can really think of anyone because Kobe Razz Mrs. No longer in the league and no one else came immediately so Colby Rasmus such a good answer I know but not active. So Todd Frazier I I actually cheated. I went with on active although I don't know if he officially retired I'm just going with Jose Bautista his age Feels I mean? He was just? He was so good at baseball after essentially like building himself up from from the floor and in the same way that like Ted Williams was was supposed to be an impatient coach because he did it. So why couldn't everybody else? I feel like Jose Bautista would just look at maybe see projects everywhere. He goes in be frustrated that that other people weren't as a successful at at he was so I don't know yeah. He's pretty active on twitter to Constantly falling people seems like it might translate. Yeah and you know I mean he could just imagine right like okay so you dad's Jose Bautisa in your like a year like maybe you're like a real hot shot high school pitcher and every time you pitched too many hits a home run. He just like slips that bat that right all right We did it. That was all of them yeah. I wonder whether we'll get even one rate between the three of us. Funny Five Years. Put It on the calendar. Yes all right okay. Well the book is out everyone. Go get it again. It's called the wax pack on the Open Road in search of baseball's afterlife. Usually I say available wherever books are sold and I guess that's still true but books are being sold at fewer places right now however you can still help out a local bookseller and go to India bound at least an order without actually stepping foot somewhere. And you can find Brad on twitter at Brad Pollution. You can find the book on twitter at Wax. Pack Book Your Book by the way has many more followers than you do personally which I don't know if that's humbling or a just a testament to the book and the concept for the book and the marketing that you've put into this thing that people are already jazzed about it without mostly having read it and you can also go to Wax Pack Book Dot Com to get more info about it. So thanks again Brandon congrats and I hope everyone enjoys it as much as I did. Thank you one last thing. I was really cool. You know this obviously is a difficult time for everyone But what's been really need to see? Several baseball. Writers have come together. Who have books coming out now to kind of help each other interview each other on Zoom Co promote so? We've got a whole group. That said that come together. Call the Pandemic Baseball Book Club which is at P. B. The club dot com. And you have a whole range of books and projects. Publishers represented with people. That are that are coming out with books right now so it's great to see people supporting each other. Yeah all right. Well we'll take a quick break and then I will be back with the person who helped make this book a Reality Rob Taylor of University of Nebraska press who will tell us about the economics of baseball books and how the press picks baseball books and how you can perhaps get publish yourself so today we had brad on to talk about the ex pack which has entered was published by the University of Nebraska. Press on episode fourteen fifty nine. We had Paul Dickson on to talk about his book about sign stealing the hidden language baseball. That was also published in its updated edition by University of Nebraska. Press and on episode thirteen. Seventy Two we had Joe Pinocchio on to Talk About His book about Roger. Angell no place. I would rather meet. That was also published by N. P. and in the past several years so many of the baseball books I've read or have wanted to read have orange the stamp of the University of Nebraska Press. And today I wanted to find out how that came to be the case and a little bit about the economics of baseball books in general. So I'm joined now by someone who had no rob Taylor these senior acquisitions editor at the University of Nebraska Press? Hey Rep pay Ben. Thanks so much for that. Thanks for having me on and for having so many authors on to talk about their books that really really helps them find readers and appreciate that very much. Well you make it easy because you have so many baseball authors and they write so many great books that it's hard not to have some of them on and I guess. Can we just go through? What appealed to you about the wax? Pack as kind of a case study in. What draws your eye or what makes a book make sense for? You and pete publish sure well you know with that book I think. What immediately hit me. When rod reached out and queering me and sent me a proposal was that it was a kind of baseball book that I hadn't seen before conceptually. And the you know that always helps. If you're thinking about what's GonNa make a new baseball book succeed hasn't been done before you know. What's its potential to find an audience and I? I just hadn't seen anything like that and I thought he had real vision for just making it clear it was going to be. You know just one of a kind baseball book with. I think a lot of natural appeal because he was undertaking. This road trip to go find these players. Some of whom he had attachments to when he was younger and he was going to try to seek them out and talk to them about you know a little about baseball but a lot about their life cents so I think that was probably really the main appeal with that book and the and the book for people who have picked it up and maybe started reading it. I think it really lives up to that appeal. Yeah so you've been with U. N. P. since what two thousand three and I guess by then. It was already sort of hotbed of baseball book. Publishing to an extent but U. N. P. Goes back to the early forties right and was not always that way. So how did that come to the case sure? Yeah so the press opened in nineteen forty one so almost eight years ago now and you know for its first few decades. It was a pretty traditional university humanities based university press and still is to a large degree publishing western history and indigenous studies and some related Areas. But yes about late eighties into the early nineties. We had Editor in chief then became a director Dan. Ross and Dan saw the appeal in publishing about sports and I think he saw it as a way for the press to kind of build out and expand on the bison books list and I probably should have mentioned that I because that was established in nineteen sixty the bison books imprint as a way to bring lower priced books about Western history native American history Western culture that kind of thing and they were able to get those books into some nontraditional outlets not just bookstores and that imprint became kind of the presses calling card and into the eighties and into the nineties. The press issued reissued a lot of previously published work under that imprint. That say bigger publishers. Had let go and Dan Really saw sports as a way to add to the to the Bison list and that's when he was able to acquire books like the John McGraw biography Roger. Kahn's looks that we reissued the celebrant by Eric. Ross Greenburg Bang the drum slowly and Marquez. Other BASEBALL NOVELS. And so that was really the genesis of the baseball list which then turned into more or less of a sports list but that started in the mid early to mid nineties and then by about the end of the nineties the the press was starting to do. Its own front. List sports books that had you know books that had never been published. You're a nonprofit right and reading from your website. You've published more than six thousand books. Can you give people some sense of the scale of the press compared to maybe some of the big name publishers that they're aware of for how the financials of university press differ from say a Big New York publisher among the university presses? I mean you can't really compare the revenues to commercial publisher because they are publishing so much true scholarly work that's appealing and targeted mainly at scholars. I or you know people in Graduate School and getting PhD's and you know it's very targeted. Peer reviewed scholarly work. And you know that's a that's a model that has always been built on the bottom line. You know it's not a it's not the kind of publishing that say people think of in terms of the New York Publishing World. It's a it's a completely different model. And it's one that you know especially in an age where library sales have been declining as a bit tenuous and that's why a Lotta University presses have had to adjust especially in the last fifteen to twenty years and published more general interest books and books that can reach a wider readership. Because that's a model that economically helps them stay on more solid footing as much as they can. You always hear that. Baseball is the sports that inspires the most great writing. And I don't know whether that's just a baseball writers patting themselves on the packer. Whether that's actually true. It seems drew. Certainly there's a long tradition of literary fiction nonfiction about baseball. But I read a two thousand twelve New York Times article about U. N. P. in which you were quoted in the hall of Fame Librarian said at the time he estimated that about three hundred to four hundred baseball books were published a year. I don't know whether that's still accurate. But if that's the case how do you think that compares to other sports and what accounts for the fact that there are so many baseball books particularly at this time of year? You know looking back at that article and Jim's quote you know if anything that could that number could be bigger now because of the wider availability of self publishing options which is really only kind of grown since then and so that. That number is probably still about right. It could be higher if you could track down. Every single self-published published book so well and I would say to. There's an old quote I heard this years ago for the first time. I don't know who said it. But if something along the lines of the smaller the ball the more literary the writing about the sport or something like that and and You know maybe two degree that that could be true. You know. I think the output of baseball publishing far surpasses any other sport. And you know part of that is trace back to well it's just been played professionally no longer than any other sports and so that's probably part of it. You know other than that. I just I don't know in terms of the continued output. It probably is going to still rival or surpass the other sports and I think that's just maybe more people who still love it. Follow it one right about it than other sports I. I don't know if there's really a good explanation other than you know. I mean that's kind of a surface level explanation but I think it's still largely true. Yeah I mean people talk about baseball's older audience and maybe he has something to do with it. Maybe older people who tend to love baseball tend to be the ones writing books especially historical books or reading books or having the time to read books so I guess that could have something to do with it but I have had the experience myself of sending proposals around. You know in my second book. We were pitching some picker New York publishers and a lot of them said he liked the idea but baseball books. Don't sell any more. We heard that pretty consistently and I know that other authors have heard that and fortunately we found at least a couple of editors who disagreed in the book sold fairly well for a baseball book but what creates that perception. If there are so many baseball books that are sold every year. What do they actually not sell? If so why do they keep getting published? Or why do people think that they don't sell if they do? Yeah well I I think your experience working with commercial presses shows that for the right projects and and if you find the right Edgar they'll still jump on projects but I I do think in terms of the New York commercial side of the business. There has been a drop off. I think not just in baseball books but sports publishing in general and I don't have anything to go on to back that up other than anecdotally but I think if you look at the book shelves if you go into or when you're able to go into a store or look online if you're seeing newer sports books from the bigger publishers. They're going to be you know. Bigger maybe celebrity driven authored books. They're going to be books that those publishers know unquestionably. They're going to be able to move thousands of copies hundreds of thousands of copies. And if not they're you know increasingly just probably GonNa pass on sports and I don't know why that is either but that leaves the midland publishers and the smaller publishers to have opportunity to to be in this category and you know that's where benefits the smaller independent publishers and university presses. Yeah and they're certain books that I've read of yours that I thought boy. This is so well tailored to my interests in my interest specifically that I wonder how many people out there there are. Who would be interested in this book? I'm glad it exists but I don't know if it would have a a huge audience so to what extent does the potential sales of a book factor into your decision when you are a nonprofit but you do have two viable and continue to operate so there has to be some sales potential. I imagine but how do you evaluate that and do you? Kinda do like a one for us one for them kind of thing where you take one that you think will sell and that will maybe help fund a few others that you really like but aren't sure we'll sell you know well when you're looking at a book and when I'm looking at a proposal and this goes back to what I said earlier about Brad's book. The wax pack. You're looking for something original that you haven't seen before you're looking at the writing. Of course you want to be as good as a composite and then you also want to see. What's what's the author putting forth about. Some of the efforts that they've made either with previous books or if their first time author what what can they say about? Well here's how I think I can reach my audience here. My connections that I think can help the book and really showing a vision for how they can try to help promote on their own. I mean that's really key to work with a publisher at our scale. You know whether it's the university presses or the more like the mid West publishers who don't have these giant marketing budgets and have to be a little bit more nimble and more targeted with how they're going to try to reach their readers and you know fortunately we've published so many baseball books you know we're able to identify our readerships for these different kinds of books and and how to find them and we have reliable outlets we can go to to try to get them publicized. Her Run an excerpt and there are probably fewer of those outlets now Then there were five ten years ago but you know what we find with most of the these books that baseball books that we take on you know we feel pretty good about our ability to to sell them at a level that works for us and makes them successful. And that's you know for us. That's probably level much much different than what a traditional commercial publishers. Looking at in terms of the bottom line right. Can you give any specifics? About what a typical print run would be or or what SORTA sales you would be looking for to sort of break even on a baseball book. Well it out. You know so much depends on the input. You know the length of the book and you know what it's GonNa cost a typeset it and then print it so it's Kinda hard to quantify that but what I'll say you know just about print runs in general and again. This is sort of qualified by the notion that you know. Nowadays you don't have to print a giant number of books on your first printing because of the print on demand capabilities that are available and even the bigger publishers utilize these now so that they don't have to have somebody books on the warehouse floor but you know for us at first. Printing is probably anywhere from fifteen hundred to three thousand and you know maybe sometimes even a little higher but that's probably about the range for a lot of them and again that's just sort of that's a first printing and you can always go back for more and roughly. How many proposals for baseball books do you receive in a year? And what percentage are you able to give a green light to? Oh Gosh I probably get well just in terms of baseball I mean certainly dozens and in two hundred. I haven't actually thought about that for a while but I certainly see hundreds you hand only a small portion. Can I say Yes to say? Yes to about fifteen fifteen to twenty per year at the most. And I've also wondered why so many the public's tend to congregate at this time of year. I know it has to do with father's day and with what would typically be opening day but is there an opportunity to space things out a little bit if everyone is publishing their books within a two month window than doesn't that create more competition. Does it still work out in the long run that you wouldn't want to Ziegler everyone zagging and say well? They're all publishing their baseball books and March to May so will publish hours You know we'll space them out a little bit so that will will have some scarcity on our side or is it just that this is the time of year when people typically WanNa buy baseball books while you're right and we have tried to deal with that both ways maybe publishing some may and sometimes into June but by then you know you're halfway into the season so we usually try to get them out. March April may just with the hope that they're getting the full run of the season and the most publicity opportunities marketing opportunities and just giving it that longer. Run that you're right that does put you up against every other publisher bringing out baseball books for the Spring and I think it is just kind of a little bit of a herd mentality with that. But you're probably better off. I think just getting them out and early in the season when people are have been waiting a few months and they're ready for the season there they want engage with it again and read about at night. I just feel like that's the way to go for now. And you know if you had maybe a big biography or autobiography by a player and nothing about that player had been published. You could maybe put it later in the season and it probably would allow it to stand out and be past that you know I wave but I think either way I think it works either way and another thing that struck me and travis such when we working on the. Mvp machine is that this is a book about how players and teams are trying to optimize performance and project performance. And it didn't seem to us like the same level of data was brought to bear in book sales. You know that that people weren't necessarily money balling book sales and I know I've read things here at narrow about maybe some publishers that are trying to predict Project things using data. But I wonder whether there's any place for that in the publishing world or whether it really just goes by feel because when we were working on that book and we were talking to the publisher about titles or what the cover looks like that sort of thing you know they would say well we think this will sell and our sales team thinks this will sell but it was never really based on anything. At least you know that we could tell they didn't say well. We think this will sell because we did a Focus Group. We pulled the potential audience and they said they like this title better or we know that historically titles with this number of words sell better or something. I don't know whether it's possible to do that but does it. Just go entirely by Gut feel when you're evaluating a proposal. You just say wealth. We think this'll work. There's no way to sort of base it on past performance of books. Not that you would want to. I guess go entirely data centric or you'd end up publishing the same things over and over that have succeeded before but still it's something I wonder about. 'cause you're making these decisions. It seems like a lot of the time. Publishers are just kind of going based on what the group internally thinks will sell without necessarily a lot of numbers behind it at least that were shared with us right well and you can as a publisher. What you what? You're relying on when you've published other books in the categories. Yeah to a large degree. You're relying on books that you've published in the category and how successful they've been or maybe they haven't been successful. You know and that that model that kind of modeling is is really just starting point and you can and this is not available to authors unless they want to subscribe to it and. I'm not even sure if you can sign up as an author but you know you can get numbers through. Publishers can subscribe to a book scan and they can get data that informs about sales figures up to a point and that can help when they're looking at a book that they think is targeted to similar readership. But you know I. I think it is true. A lot of it is sort of gut instinct and you're looking at all those inputs in terms of houses. Where's this going to fit in the category? Who's the author? What's their platform and author? How are they going to be able to help publicize and sell the book? And that's probably how it sunk shinned for decades more than you know than it being sort of a analytics based kind of evaluation. Yeah it's too bad. It can't be but are there certain books in the catalog certain baseball books that are sort of consistent sellers from year to year they're just kind of the the perennial. Steve Evergreen ones that you can count on for a certain level of interest. You're after you're well. Yeah you know in terms of the backlist of what we've published. You know there's still readership that still buys books. Like the celebrant and SATCHEL pages. Maybe I'll pitch forever those kinds of things that those books have been in print forever and ever and still keep selling and in terms of looking at it more. Contemporary biographies of players from the somewhat obscure to the well-known are always reliable. Because it's so many baseball fans and followers Wanna read about the lives of players in the areas that they they played in and I think the biography is still always has potential to sell books about teams in certain areas. If they're able to bring out kind of time and place in a cultural element. Those books have kinds of books. Have Enduring Appeal. You know and I think there's always going to be an opportunity to to keep publishing new work along those lines. Yeah I've joked with other baseball authors about the fact that it seems like there will eventually be a baseball book about every team that has ever played because every spring. I see books coming out and it's not necessarily like dynasties or world series winners it's Teams that you haven't thought of for years but someone remembers fondly or thinks is representative of something that was happening in society at the time and has a tie in to the baseball story. And so they're so many of those that you think that team that has a book now but people find book links things to say about them and people want to read. And there've been a lot of those obviously from the forties into the fifties sixties and seventies fewer on the eighties and into the nineties. But I I suspect those are coming because we're we're we're far enough removed and and those books are going to be you know. Publishers are going to respond to those books. I know I would if I got the right one. And how has the fact that people are not currently walking into bookstores and buying books affecting you personally and the publishing industry in general I mean obviously a lot of sales have migrated online in recent years but with this pandemic with some of the uncertainty in the economy and with the temporary closures bookstores? I imagine that's not the ideal environment in which to launch new book. So how are you trying to compensate for that? And have you seen any effect that you can measure thus far? Yeah we'll just speaking personally. This time of year is really meaningful to me on a couple of levels. I mean just like anybody else who follows base by away opening day and it's such a special time of the year and it's the time of the year when I know all these new books are coming and I have high hopes for them and Also just as an aside for the last couple of years. I've played baseball in in an adult wood. Bat League. And so that really has kicked up my. It really kicked up my love for the game after not playing for so many years and so that's off for the foreseeable future too and so that's just been sort of a personal part of how the absence of it has made it. You know that much harder to deal with but you know with the books. I think they're still if anything while baseball is out and of course we hope it comes back much sooner than later but books. I think are one of the few ways right. Now that people can stay interested in stay engaged and without the. Games being played on TV. And so I think for for a lot of books this. This could be a good thing. It could help sell them. And it's and it's being helped by you. Know Your podcast and a whole lot of other podcasts. That focus on baseball or books. Like just Maguire's baseball by the book and some others because I think that's really that's what people are left with right now. Who who Miss Baseball and I think there are. A lot of new books are going to help baseball fans while they wait for it to come back. And are there any particular books that you've acquired or helped acquire during your tenure U. N? P. That you're particularly proud of whether they were big hits financially or whether they were just something you've thought was really important and were able to give it a home that it couldn't find elsewhere. Sure well if I go back to the very beginning. One of the first books that I acquired was a biography of true speaker by an author named Timothy. Gay and so that book was that book is special to me because it was really the first original a new book that I acquired at the press. And there've been so many along the way that I've been grateful to have the opportunity to acquire and work on but if I just name a couple I mean one book. That was a a really big deal for. Us WAS PHILIPPA lose. Autobiography Co authored with Peter. Kara Sodas from a couple of ago because that for us was a real move up in terms of the visibility of Of the author and as probably the biggest book that. I've acquired so far a couple more that I'd like to mention that I've really been grateful for the opportunity to work on and some other books that are in the pipeline more recently republished Jeremy Beers biography of Oscar Charleston. Which we were lucky to win. The two thousand Nineteen Sabre Seymour Medal. Which is awarded to Best Baseball Book of the year? Few Years Back published a book called Home Team by Rob Garrett which is a sort of a cultural history of the San Francisco giants from really the move from New York. Up to the building of the new ballpark and the sort of turbulent history of that period. I'm also really excited about just a few months. Here we're going to be publishing Along with sabre a Partnership With Sabre Sabres Fiftieth Sixty which is a a collection of what sabre has chosen as the most representative work by sabre members US and SABERS INCEPTION? And we partnered with them on that. And we're really looking forward to bring that book out. In June and early July and building on that relationship that we have with sabre both in terms of working with them over the years as both their distributor but also the the relationship that we have with sabre readers who have been so good about buying and supporting our books over the last twenty plus years and I guess lastly because we've had a lot of aspiring writers in our audience and people who will occasionally reach out to ask for advice about getting a baseball book published. What are some pieces of advice that you could dispense about how to come up with an idea that would intrigue you or other publishers? And how to put together a proposal? What you're looking for. Essentially or some of the mistakes may that some aspiring authors make. Well I would say in terms of what goes into a book proposal. There's we have guidelines on our website and there's so many books and other resources that go over that I won't spend too much time on that but I think what I think it goes back to. You know if you want. If you're trying to write a baseball book you really just should spend a lotta time on the idea itself. And whether or not there are competing books. Is it really book links? Are you going to be able to have the material to put it together to make it book length and as I see a lot of that I see a lot of stuff that comes in and it's not even book length an and some authors don't even know what that is but you know I think it you have to have an idea that that doesn't have competition you'd have to have you have to bring something to it in terms of your track record as a writer you know? What can you show us about how we know you're going to be able to to make this book happen and pull it off if you're given a contract and and really don't be in a hurry. That's the other thing I would. I would always. I mean everybody wants to be published next year or the year after at a book is something that you're going to have to invest in for years and in order for it to be the best that it can possibly be. And so that's what I would say to you but I think the the big two things are just the originality of the idea. And how you know it's going to be able to find an audience who you think have supported similar related books in the category and what you can do as an author to help publicize those are the main three things and when most people submit a proposal have many of them written book already or written a few chapters. Because I know when I did my books we really hadn't written much at all and it was all sort of hopeful and aspirational. And here's what we're GONNA do. And because of the nature of those books we couldn't really have written them or any large chunk of them before we actually submitted. But if you're someone who's writing a biography of a long dead player let's say or a long ago team. You could in theory do some work on that before. You actually get a contract if you're able to do that so do people typically submit long proposals with a lot of the book already completed and if so. I guess how big a staff you have that you're able to actually review all those things because I would imagine that there's a lot of reading to do when you're getting as many proposals baseball books as you are well. It's true that some people submit the barest of proposals. And sometimes that's fine if they have a good enough idea and they can get right to it and the pitch letter and then they can say. Well here's my credentials here so I am. You know that's sometimes enough but sometimes I do see not even a sample chapter because author say well. I I WANNA do this you know. I hope this shows the vision for the book that I'm proposing but I don't really WanNa start it until I have a contract and that makes that makes total sense. And maybe that's kind of what you were feeling like when you were trying to sell that proposal and that's fine too and sometimes. I'll get complete manuscript with almost no proposal. And that's really what you don't want actually because because then you really do have to just sit with probably the first forty to fifty and sometimes that's not. GonNa Really Tell you where. Where's this thing going? And that's why proposal is really the best vehicle along with a sample chapter two if you have it and if you don't even shorts writing sample that just shows the style that would plan to use for the book or something close to it. That's completely acceptable to all right. Well thank you for doing that. Work and providing this service that you provide to the baseball community of getting some of these books published that are definitely in line with my interests and I think many of our listeners and maybe would never see the light of day if not for U. N. P. So we're glad that you're out there and best of luck weathering this difficult time for book. Sales will thanks Ben. 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THE MOVIE REVIEW EXTRAVAGANZA - 07 - 08 - 2020

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THE MOVIE REVIEW EXTRAVAGANZA - 07 - 08 - 2020

"David Martin Segma-. Kleenex. Up GOING ON, everybody, welcome to the Extravaganza Mars happy be hit. Sexist muscles. Orange and bright sunshiney no citrus Thomas. I, do man. I use the prize Musudan. Said Hey y'all during the day. Tomorrow will be here on Thomas. Tonight we got. So for you and he said movies went happening. If they are yeah, man. No, they are. They are some people. Some people upset that they are happening in which they want them to happen. Tom Hanks. Corona everything. He cried about this movie. Buddy seeing greyhound big screen with. All nobody wants to make Tom Hanks Mad. That tonight. See. Screen. Right way these. You say oh you. Know Oh. We ran into a little bit of. Rand deliberated trouble trying to get screened tomorrow Denison. Oh, I'll listen. No. You. Listening to the opposite of what I say all, but you know what you did. See this other movie. sometimes always never. Yes. I saw that right before guy. Okay Yeah. Going back to independent films. Everybody wants to hear about the nobody goes. On the well, keep asked us about movies out of those. You know what I'm saying. I know I know I know they say. Hey, you guys want review. This looks interesting sure. Hey guys check out this movie Pass! You know they say hey, guys you go in. You're GonNa Review this movie because it looks interesting, I mean I ain't GonNa see. But I listen to Y'all talk about it, so yeah, folks. We'll talk about this independent British independent film that came out. It came out in a few places before, but I think it went the ethical on some other places like maybe the U. K.. You know of course biggest cities net Mallya L. new. York, yeah, of course, and and then I think did the festival route also as a bonus today on and think we would have too much, but. The boys season two. Oh, that's right. And Home Katrina. That so love the show Oh with season. Two's on the way I heard that and they dropped a trailer for, did they? Have you seen? Have not I guess when you say did dated. Della Luna, thank you, thank you, so folks. We got a lot of things to do and man I had a dream. I went to the theater for a movie premiere. Got There was all excited. And, when even thinking about it and then bright before walking in I was like wait. I can't go in there. What the Hell am I doing here? This was a full. It was partially full like this inside trump air. It's a theater so i. don't know what kind of distancing. They're practicing the not going to be. There Khairnar came. Don't attach them at the front. I didn't get that. It might even a critic screening, but I was just so like like so happy only to go like wake up out of it like not actually wake up within my dream going on what the hell! No, I can't do this. Yeah, man! How were you thinking you've been what you dream? About gardening you know better in. Doing. Or not doing social social dream in. Spring Coronas. and. You'LL DRINK Freddie Krueger fucking people as I'll get you out to the vaccine. I ain't doing nothing right? Now was better than my dream that I had last week was I was having sex with Having pseudo sex with a rod rentals wife who was not blake lively. What he gets. He was obviously cheat. Now there was some Going on. Yeah more. What's worse? Me having sex with another man's wife are US brand corona out there. Oh, man! I got this taken a male today in the email speaking of Ryan Reynolds. And it said Hey, you've been invited to. A tasting a vodka, Avia aviation vodka gin tasting with Ryan Rentals I was like. Oh, well, we'll shit right on. Hold on. Is this going to work because it's putting on my total wine and it's like Oh easy. You come by total wine and buy a bottle of aviation gin, and then when you ask home when you computer. Reynolds will drink it with you on zoom. Call with everybody. Does it Kinda cool? I guess. You. Try to play this down getting. Your zoom co around rose drinking. That's the new happy hour. Jesus man. Is Robert is going to be I. Don't know if he's there say he's their. People welcome to the cell. He this man. He's turned his nose. With however, many people well, let's just say that you're on there. And how how many people on a zoom call at one time? I think. We did one with twenty people. Man That's like being at a not even a party. That's like being at a dinner. With Ryan Reynolds Man. The world's MOST AWKWARD DINNER BUT! I, don't you sit there pretend because there's no way you would do. You would not I would do this. Man My skin me again. I will forward it to you because it's not like it's exclusive to me I will how? I look at is like all right. This is not exclusive. This is whoever is on the total wine mailing lists. Get this, I. You know what? GimMe the invitation also son I'll come back and report to you okay. Man It was prerecorded. Iran rentals. Base for drinking mush in. You fucking idiot. Did you really think I was going to be here? Don't you stupid? Now? Dressed up like deadpool's. I mean plus when you go to a tasting. They're giving you samples. Does not like. Show up and buy your own shit and then hey, get on the on the call so I can tell you thank you sucker what I mean. But it's not always if you go to a tasting Ron Reynolds, is Thanksgiving you? Okay. He's not going to be. Giving it to me now that tell you about the invitation I got. This chicken Ron Ronald was going to be that. They say is. No. Man Look. Man Listen! No breath probably GONNA be a setup is probably going to be like even if he is probably be something like hey, Gus, thank for Drinking Gin by what? got. Exactly Shit that doesn't get the hang right, or it'll be like an while I'm here I'll take a few questions. It's GonNa be idiot questions. Know that you know how QNA's go boy of course it'll be idiot questions. Drunk. Of G. Knocking sticking around long enough for people to get drunk. You'll be there for the first SIP. Man Semi that invitation I'm very curious to see. Okay L. will be having a virtual happy hour with dead poo. That sounds awesome man. Should there he is waiting on, you look. You know everybody I'm here. I'm just waiting on Thomas. Really has some question for that guy like show. Marin you are. Over or You WANNA hang out and don't want to hang out with pool. Man, and you call yourself a comic book Geek Man. Get outta here would. Drink. Drink okay, you do it, even Japan. Is My Asti. Jen is my least favorite. I mean it can be good. I discovered that the more expensive stuff is good. If you mix, it was mix it yeah. They gave me a hangover drink I was. Much I need to stop drinking. Angle in a bar the knicks. I was at the bar saying. What can you do for a hangover? They probably said we'll get the fuck out the buffers stop. Down as funny. What else do. You put in a fucking glass. Drink out of it. No shut the fuck of Gimme a drink for hangover and they recommended. They say we got I. Forgot what it was. It was a real speaking of sitcoms comb hat. alchemy ended up till Zahadeh. What's we'll see you guys a little bit? But it was a it was a very citrusy type during fruited drinking, but it was gin and man I like all right. This is good. No I've been to some art openings where it's been sponsored by a forget. The company's not great babied. No. They, make some good drinks. IRA! KYW came over from Denmark. Gave me some some gin with elderberry in it and it with fever tree, tonic water and I was like Holy Shit you completely. About elderberry from the fever, what mythical fantasy book because this man? I came from Denmark. Berries L. Debater mythical twelve in the Jin from the middle. What tree were no? No fever tree is a brand of. Ginger beer and tonic water, so it's it's a higher in, and it's not super sweet. Okay, so right had the fever tree. The retrea tonic water mixed with the the elderberry infused Jenson okay, knows to together was delicious. You talking about elderberry served from the Fiba Tree. Mixed Elf now who? Is. Show. Where you? Would've mythical pump somewhere? Hang doors this. Go on a journey. I WANNA quit, but came back with this was this gene? Will you. Got To go slay dragons. Yeah Man I want this. I want to see this invitation I'm GonNa Tell You why a med. You turned down its invitation because you've got a coup email. I'm still getting some backwards as emails. Man Like what I'll show you I'm glad you brought a bus. Show you this. They still try to pull this shit on me like I'm stupid. They some nineties Conman Shit on me man. Yeah! Is that that prince from Nigeria whenever he's not Jerry imprint see? He's bag man and started with me. Let me going with Chat Chatto Chet. How you doing much fans out there chat babies. High are doing the Oji chat. He made them crime whereas. You. said it. Oh. Welcome og chat! Bring up the visuals in the. I don't know what that is the. Freddie Krueger Guinea pig. But I like it though and the side Bitch Ken. How you doing side bitches. Who is a cross Gamer HD was upside bitch? Julian how you doing the street AGGRIPA history degree life was going on anger Asian, still man cartoon muppet. The wizard kingdom, though it is the wizard king. L. To ban how! Be retrieved. CAST fake cares faith. Thank you I. Don't think I've seen you here before cast, but if you knew. Thank you for being here. Welcome work everybody the Nick, lousy coming in with the salt. How you doing Nick Lousy. Nick did I get your. Address because I pull something aside for you of Smithson off some stuff, people should be getting shirts from me. A Synopsis on Marie, but I need your address, so please send it to me. And you know where to send it, but if not I, remind you a little bit later. Della Luna saying. Thank you nick losing. On the Double toasted chip Fan, behalf. He said I have said it to you. Exhibit again and. Let's see. Stop losing it low, low, low, low servant awesome accent. Austin, thank you. Thank you how you doing drama. There US right there. Alpha Alpha. G Goes Budget Rodham Oh. Stay fly man. Stay fly man. Buck workum. James Cool James, Luther. To sweet seven, hundred, ninety seven Bonnie. Golden skippy. Spying on me, but I like Golden Skinny, All. Gain Geeta overhear with the subs. Thank you for the gift of subs right. They appreciate the man ready depreciate. Oh Shit. Say Jay. Ready to head. On newsradio Hi to beat a speed is to admit. Ready, all these. Oh. You said before. Call the manager. I'M GONNA put. Raisins up here California raising. These girls line. Here Cousteau's. They always finally. Righteous Green, Vegas, stop and. Look at. Them hips going that man and joking. United in the. Oil Welcome. Tom Hanks. Sex the Obama captain. America Who that is that black deadpool patches up? Folks let me saw. Soda Today we got. Greyhound? Start America's. Tom Hanks. Also. Liked boys season one was season two. Dropped trailer for you to. Be Talking about that. They, said man. What about the arts? Used to be the arts. The art terms that is in. Talking about sometimes always never. was able to. Get, it. That's amount. Oh. He's what is probably better stop. What is he? Swallow his little torch tongue right now. Oh, get it most getting. Crack me up with these gifts Soviet, but don't ever stop. Don't ever stop with that. Thank y'all. Thank y'all today. Man, really do appreciate it. As I said today have great how Tom Hanks. Ship blowing up movie we also have. By mackinac stay away from World War Two. He must be having flash. Mister World War. That would be funny. He's PT as the from being. War, movies. Meghan do another. He should've been captain America. The boys, the trailer season two. Getting Ready for when it up in September and going to be talking about some of the smaller movies that are out there today we're GonNa Start with sometimes always never got a bunch of movies that are independent films coming people's way and you can look for those in the future, but tonight you can look forward to that one. Baby. Baby late they'll stop that. Stop shaking. Don't shake a baby. The baby's feeling it. Don't stop me now. Baby found cocaine. No stop makes those. Dose. Oh Shit. Woody rated the have a dance battle. Should Black Laszlo Madame me Louis. Come on with it. Yeah, come on, getting should. That black is like he's like. He's like man. I lost I got served going to lick my wounds. got beat by big toy. Oh folks. somebody said. Are you guys going to review the outpost? That's a movie on Netflix. I am happy to say that we have a Netflix's connection now. So. We probably start reviewing shows I have an electronic. Cram all this shit in in one day. Yeah, a whole weekend so good good! Hey, okay, well, then who needs the movies? I'm telling you man. I gave up on movies long time ago mark. Move is off a sucker. Streaming New Kushida. Folks is GonNa be a fun show though. Martin was still a free man. He know movies knowing all exist. A fake as You. Wouldn't even his head yeah. Even looking at. CAMP, was bigger than. They should have black hair. Would like fingernail Polish so to woman's hand. Oh. Konterman N- thank you. Thank you for the subscription right there? Subscribe to two one six months. Appreciate that. Thank you, yes sir. All right. Are we talked to the people in the chair. Welcome once again. And, for the people can get Nian right now. So I'm burping up the. Chinese food. What did you get chicken and Broccoli? Would Assad a hot and sow was. They ain't funny. It's the way you said. It's like Chris Tucker. To get your sweetness our. Racist. Even got to see. because. You know cost I'll call racism metal any en sure at the time even to think about like he say that. He said they nobody call. They should up I mean they do now back then back, thanks. I remember I laughed at that and I was like I'm laughing one because the way you said it was funny. Looking for your stability over your sweet and sour chicken. You can't do that. Became who I've been looking for your chicken? You went like this. Is Not right no golf for. But that was the whole. Point of that movie. Sometimes I should be getting mad at Blake. said, I mean. You know what I tell you what you go ahead. You had your jokes, I'm won't take this corner and you'll. Store. Would you think about that? Had Out. Dan seat very well. Whoever hit Serb? You hit a so hard my bag fill over. Mark Little scary to. The power to. Marcy. Bag Fill over I'm dead. What. Dog Spirits hearing. Solid chicken. You know what? That's the spirit of that character. We talked math and we'll kick your bag. Bitch C. J. Eric. Thank you. Thank you for the celebrate their appreciate that You can still find it on. Looking for your sweet and sour chicken is. Sweden sour among put swings hours. Yep! Tech you. Know Time I popped up first thing. Like advertising this shit like they proud of that line. Been Looking everywhere for your, you'll and salad chicken ass. and. Isn't that right Let's see here. You can't do that shit today. No, no, we were watching that movie plant thing last year re watching it and I was like it's funny, but you could never. This movie can never play House now. City Council rush hour at this point. See y'all can't go castle and everything. 'cause I'M GONNA. Be Some left out there. That's what I'm saying all this canceled. Really is really. Looking for your sweet and sour chicken eggs. I didn't even know how he stressed that out and. Sweet and sour chicken. That He. May should let him know that. This was nice racist rate. y'All sweet and sour chicken a S. Yeah I've been looking for your sweet and sour chicken. Play here is was actually ordering Shit. Yeah let me get the sweet sour chicken ass. Sat a penis. Because, that's what you mean. You don't mean any more to me than a menu item. Sweeps chicken as I mean what he was the beggar. He digs forgave it. Yeah, he did kill some people. FORGOT THERE! Has An accent. A not not really seen some shows. No, he's been. He was lost. He was a matter of fact. That's right. Yeah, yeah! He was a major character on loss in the later seasons. and. I was watching. I, pulled out the squid and the whale which I forgot what year that came out. Way Old he was in that he played a therapist in it. I was like Jeez remember him and he had no accent in that movie. Yeah, I saw him in a show reason that we had no accent. So, he was in lost yeah yeah well Chris talk about is. Looking for your sweet and sour chicken eggs remember island fucking. Racist would. You found my fucking. Fantasy. Island is to call me a goddamn learn. Now see if you turn around and call him a nigger he'd be. decided that. I know how dare you sir. You just call me sweet sour chicken. dish. What you? Should I. See here the email. Mysterious email you got so Martin. Come and tell me man. I got an invitation to go. Drake would Ryan Reynolds and I saw. Man. Why are you? Why would you come in Handy? Do you know I'm a busy man? I can call him up anytime. I don't need to do that right now. Assuming the invitation I'll go hang with. MAC getting emails from. Ryan Reynolds Man Meanwhile I'm getting emails from the Nigerian Prince. This shit here, let me see. Maybe say, don't don't. Twist don't show people's emails, but this is a fucking con person right here so I don't think no matter. By this. Let me see there it is. Business Cooperation. Could have been in on a business cooperation and you blew it in blue. Look at this. Look at this shit here. I'm a regional. I thought this was done. I thought people I don't think anybody at all. Maybe even old people I don't think anybody who was left on this planet to be dumb enough to fall for shit like this, but apparently I guess they thought I was the one. Trying to catch a slipping. Let me see here. This. Is the email I got? From J.. J. Biko. Biko. BBDO God. Oh, my money go! Mr J, Biko says. Good day, kindly treat this information confidentially. I. Don't WanNa. Know How rip your domain so. We go. Just so you know this is offers legit. This is just between you and me. A smart man. Why would tell anybody else's hey, buddy come in? Sh-. My name is Charles J Biko and I'm head of the contracts portfolio committee. Atoms selling. Contracts Portfolio Committee. The random words committee. I'm a head of business incorporated. Corporation LLC. He's as. The head people I got a very prestigious email today from the president of Wall Street. From the head of contract portfolio committee. At a top go, sit at a top government ministry in South Africa. I would like to share this confidential deal in opportunity with you and the hope that. With the hope that we can both work together. For. Its success and mutual benefit a government ministry. Work. Let me, see little small. Simple this up close because I'm. Slow small for me the. Plus I'm blind. I should've had lasted eighteen years ago. See here. He says. A government ministry where I work is currently profiling processing payments to all their foreign contractors in the current year I wanted to take advantage of this rare opportunity to your profile to our ministries payroll portfolio. Damn I'm special. You are out of all the people that they could have on. Your all your hard work is finally paid off. You've been recognized from the head of contracts portfolio committee. That's a special place those big words. I WanNa take advantage of this. To protest ministries payroll portfolio for profiling in addition as one of their foreign contractors, so you can stand as the beneficiary to receive contract payment to the value of fifty million dollars mark. Well. A number that marge has to be legit. She can kiss double toasted goodbye I mean if they'd said a few thousand. Fifty million that the fifty million me back in the day it used to be just a million or two, but they. You know adjusted for inflation, and although it also with them seeing how valuable is because I'm sure they've seen how you've said you've run this great corporation of double toasted so well. We believe in your business, Mr Coleman. And fifty million special number. That's a big number because that's the number of everybody uses when they exaggerating how much something is. Two million dollars. Fifty million people up in. One half a million people ask me for one. Fuck. That's the bit they'd like eight-year-olds. Aspects you fifty million dollars. You can't joke bike. fucking? Well, I know who does. The contract. Hitting right here. That's fifty million dollars US show. I have the Authority as the head of contracts portfolio committed committee in the ministry to Lodging your profile for addition as one of our contractors and beneficiary of payment. Regularize in prove vital paper works. Will be accepted and approved by the ministry. Appointed Payroll Bank this will officially place you as a contract payment beneficial goddamn long. Let me tell you they beneficiary. Losing Cheer People with so many works. Third that was gone for once I got to the third beneficiaries like hey, wait a minute. Fishy here. A. Ministry will then approve payment of fifty million dollars us to your foreign contractor through allocation of funds to any of the appointed paying banks. Banks those well. I gave them all of. Slow you, know if one doesn't work, they can go. I got about three banks. That's why keep man because of opportunities like this. You never know how good good good! Routing numbers all day, but I mean I was very concise. Very detailed was the payment I'm sorry once the contract payment is approved on your name, and the transfer is completed to your account. We will then arrange to meet in share the funds and the ratio fifty percent for me. Oh, well, fuck that only get twenty five million. Fuck you. We're talking about a scam. Snow You promised. ME, fifty. Old I'm I'm? GonNa play hardball. Yeah Yeah if you can get another third, you know I'm the one doing all the work right here. I'm the one taking the risk I at least have to get seventy five twenty five, at least at least. See here. If. You were capable of handling this deal with me. Please Samir confirmation our feedback. To my private email address Charles Biko sixty five at g mail, and then I will provide you with more working details. You be capable of cooperating and actualize this deal with me. Contact me as a matter of urgency, yours faithfully Charles J Biko. They head of contracts portfolio committee. Boy You know bigly you if you own jump on that I'm getting. I'm I'm getting paid. I'll tell you well. Let's swap you give me the Brian Rosillo. Give Me Ryan Brown runners I'll give you Charles. J Biko. Biko that's amateur hour. Ration-! Honeypot you the million dollars and then trying to nag you and say like if you're. Yeah, I mean you know this might not be. You might not be up to snuff. I have to determine whether you're good enough for this deal. Yeah, you gotta live up to my standards. Yeah, yeah, I think I can't. I mean he didn't choose reasonable boy. He saw something in me. Mr Biko. He comes from a great lineage by the way of course stems from the second cousin on his. Divorced, mother side. Stephen Biko. Yeah Man. Said about traded you this for. Rental even it was deadpool. That'd be better. Yeah. I I got to say I haven't seen one like that, not in a long time I was. I was simultaneously offended in honors I'm like well. You know what I mean. You've gone this stupid to fall for this, but not too many people getting these these days now I mean I. Get something on my phone twice a day with. Hey, here's A. Drink this and it'll melt belly fat. Or your everyone's investment in these make sure you can get on early enough. It's like how many times I've got block. How many of these numbers that you have block them every day and it's up to every other day. No, not every other day is twice a day every day. Yeah, well. Of course, that's stupid. Minnows of false promises on melby belly, Fat Lake Dead, and you know nobody have. Stock Market is very risky investments very risky. It's not like this I just have to do a swab your. Bank account and they. Don As man I'm stupid. But as easy money. This Is, ridiculous me, I'm out anytime. You see fit. Does you go well maybe? This is so far as like. You want to start with a reasonable amount. Enough to make a person go, Ha, yeah, that could be something to this like ten thousand is on. Yeah, getting a five thousand. Man Yeah I don't know if this is real, but put five thousand really would help me out a lot. Chad is criticizing me, and they said cord turn down fifty million know stupid stupid. Yeah, people that will toast failed. It's all because you didn't take. It didn't take golden opportunity when his hand handed to you, yeah! Just done there. You go the hardboiled one. He said Cord is lost fifty million dollars man. Why haven't responded yet I? Just got this today so now, but he said confidential. And you. Put it up there so now, everybody. Everybody trying to get my fifty million dollars nearby town. You get that he's like. Brought I only got a million lefty. Hope I'll get banned because I'm stupid person like actually emails. Hello, Mr Biko. I am an associated Coleman. Understand, that he turned down this generous off of you. I would like to follow through. 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Love The show and I just want to know what your thoughts are on inception. A love it a lot, but I would love to know what you think of it and how you would rate it. Keep up the good work. You guys great and always make my day inception, and he's probably ask him because ten years now. Okay especially ten years ago. And, you know what I just. Don't make a big. Production out of this I'll just say I have a lot more appreciation for inception as a use of gone on when I saw it at first I, it's not done in like it I liked it I just. I guess maybe I could have been reacting to just love and Christopher Nolan at the time I. Don't know, but. Side! Again years ago, not. About three or four years ago and I was like you know this is not so bad I. Would I complain about? It's actually pretty smart. Just maybe I'll just too done to get it the first time, I don't know, but I you don't like it at all, I? Would say I didn't like it at all, but I'm not really a fan of the movie. I. Just the things that bothered me about it when I saw it still bother me now. Even when I re watched it recently and I was like again. It's still buds me. The the whole premise is really far fetched It the economics of it. What these people are willing to put on on the line like death. Just to implant an. Idea in somebody's head they may or may not act on and movie is way too full exposition like there's just so many scenes where just somebody just these are. The rules Blah Blah Blah Blah and a lot of times. They break those rules anyway, and it's too long when they buy into that. The Big Snow Snow Snow machine fight. Guys come. Did we really have to go this? This right now. Watch it again. Took me about five more times. Okay Louis C.. Good question for Marcus, Kilgore. Good evening. Dry Korey Coleman smooth Martin Thomas. What changes if any do you see productions, a film and TV making a how cops and other law enforcement officials are portrayed looking for unique toasty analyst in Latte about culture, examining the role of cops. And I live the murder of George. Floyd thank you all and the toasties for being a source of hope, insight and humor in crazy times, as life has seen, is ups and downs for me. Up The thing with the girl is still going okay that arcus Kilgore out now. They did not whoops, well shit. I guess I should ask for us in yeah. He always keeps a sunny disposition well. Hey, man is always another. Plenty more fish in basically I like you being successful. We've got a great attitude. Yeah, Swab Guy like yourself. You'll be sorry. I'm jealous. You Got Opportunity. I think I'm jealous you got out. But that's. Kidding of course you are. You work over the past months has been exceptional, and I'm always for the great work that you do have a wonderful day in st toasting. Think that people like looking at these renegade. Bad as hard edged cops, starting to examine and like okay. That ain't too cool, no more, I. I I'm glad the world is finally catching up to the Shit I've been talking about twenty twenty five years and I know I. Keep saying that, but it's just like when it's happening. You like yeah motherfucker. Cops have had the best pr machine in the world because they they're always portrayed as the heroes and kids grow up wanting to be cops, and now when it's like, Oh, wait, cops have been betraying us. Oh, yeah, now you shock. It rocks your world that. But as always been. I think has always been a encouraged. Yes, the police go outside because the bad guys were always black and white. The bad guys will always bad and he's cops. You know man these good cops. They ain't doing shit. I gotta go outside to rule. It takes it takes an outlaw who's who's not going to be handcuffed by the rules and worried about rights gets the job done. Yeah, there was even like a marble had to put out. An issue of the or lease highlight an issue of the punisher because all these cops were. Are you on. I'm not going to get political tonight, but I just gotTa say this I set to see other down show. With militarization of cops has been has reached a dangerous point where they even have these conventions that they go to initiate shirts, just glorified this this almost vigilante-type violence and In! Wearing symbols like the punish a skull those A. It was a punt comic, we said. You know. I hope you ain't me, 'cause I'm fucking crazy, yeah! He's like you know you get I'm a guy that's been pushed to the edge and really I'm I'm not I'm not right. You'd like you. Guys are supposed to be withholding the LA I'm working outside the law. Yeah, I mean the superheroes don't like him. No. They don't and he's something. You think there's some point. They have the mom. He popped up tastes, spider man spider like this fucking nuts rockwood. Despite his could even go up. Exposure was so crazy. Yeah Man. Yes. It's this whole thing about like. They're talking about making the. LETHAL WEAPON AGAIN With, what's yeah in talking about making another one with Danny Glover and Mel? Gibson and I'd like both way too old for this shit, and this is way too crazy racist and Why would you punish the brand I mean I? Know? It's already tarnished that he's in them. They tarnished already understand that, but there's still some people who can hold on Lake will. That's before I knew that's maybe he wasn't drinking back then. Maybe he hadn't gone crazy. Point I still like this, but the trot him out now and do that that that that would kill off. The last vestige of any kind of good feelings was that I was still love lethal weapon still I still love lethal weapon. Man As we speak. Look I'm not. Like, I said my dislike, certain people has made me just want to go retroactively. Look at the legacy stuff. They'd done some things i. don't like and some things. I don't like you always talk about Roman. Polanski like all. I'm thinking about it because I haven't seen it I've never seen it and I'm thinking about watching Rosemary's baby. I'M NOT GONNA. Support New Shit. He's done under the under the title of a rapist but right. His pass works and everything. I'm just like I'm not that much of a stickler where I don't watch this. I will go back and watch people's pass stuff of. What? I'm not saying that this is the problem we'd like again. Kathleen not, but it was problematic. He was crazy in the first Balkan fill. Yeah, you know he was. He was working at the. We're supposed to like be sympathetic well. He lost his wife so music still. Well, my wife! She's a law and order junkie always watching the reruns and going like I haven't seen this one before I'm like. Stop Line you seen. them all. To hit. But especially. The SVU special victims unit the ones with Christopher. Maloney, as a cop. I would start watching whether I get up and discuss I was like all he's doing e. he abuses everybody's rights. and. And they just kind of like. Go Man. You shouldn't do that and is never repercussions for it. Dirty. Harry is the worst one. Dirty hair is the worst one. I'll tell you all these all these images that we've grown up. They all kind of been alive. everybody looks to John Wayne like Oh. What a real American John! Wayne was a straight up. Bitch a coward John Wayne was a fucking coward. John was a racist as fucking coward. He found every reason to not going anti war when Jimmy Stewart was signing up for world, War Two and all and some other people Jimmy Stewart sign up. To that do. Unless they injected with superstar. Don't you go to this? You? Are Thank you, but he was willing to go, but Jim John Wayne go, but everybody saw John Wayne movies right as a cowboy and a soldier into animation sold is read out his friends. During. The McCarthy era John. Wayne was A. John was a straight up bitch. John Wayne was a fucking. Lie All this shit about the the whether they call them the Duke and all that. S It was a fabrication. Yeah it's a myth. John Wayne might as well be right up there with Frodo, baggins and shit. You know mythical character. Frodo went on his quest. He stepped up. Shit! He was just that whole cooling. Ludo Time Muffins and Second Breakfast. Begging. fucking cable. Drag my book coming I got something for you to do. This cross street. Kill Drag. Learn how to beg. Dragging. Frontal did his. John Wayne was a bitch man. He like John. I bet you John Wayne had height on him and John Wayne Myth behind him I. Bet you. A lot of people stepped up and beat the shit out of him bag. Where everybody thought like Oh, you're gonNA mess with him. John Wayne wasn't shit. With a straight up man? And his family's always trying to fend well. He was old at the time. Not Not always that what they say he was feeble at. He was in his sixties. Feeble! He did a John Wayne this bitch he he bought into his own legend yeah. John Wayne. You could probably slept the shed. John John Wayne was a fucking coward and I would tell his family that. John Wayne One shit. John Wayne was was recreating shit when everybody was that when when people doing the real thing and the biggest thing about John, Wayne? John Wayne was a straight raises man Oh, yeah! Yep plane motherfucking man. I know. How? He did an interview. If I. got this right now I might. Might be remembered as wrong I. Think I. Read this because I could be wrong about this. But I believe he did an interview with playboy. Where we playboy, he them all this bullshit, this rugged cowboy John Wayne was was a fucking Shit John. Wayne was probably back in his younger days. He probably scrapped man. You know because he had hired on me and everything I sit up here and dismiss them. You know he was. He was a big dude, but really deep down inside. yellow-bellied man he He didn't interview would playboy I believe we straight up said I believe in white supremacy, and as far as. That needs to be in place. For, for because black people don't have the ability to lead take Lee positions in positions of power. You know it was something then. If I'm wrong, then you know what I apologize to all your engine waiting for the. You know the memory of John Wayne whatever but. I thought I read that somewhere. So if that's true, you can look it up and if I'm exaggerating and I'm you know it'd be said that, but I I I have quotes from him or stuff with interviews. I was like. Eight hundred that in reading is like Oh shit well. He just said it right there. Yeah, let me see. Oh I got computer looking. Down and get to a computer playboy interview. While I saw. This may have is completely wrong. And I do all the time. I see some shit, I ever John Wayne. White! Premium! Here, Los Angeles CBS local. That's. It was a different time. John Wayne son response to calls to rename OC airport over playboy interview. Let's see here. The. OSCE Democracy Wayne spoke publicly about these views in one, thousand, nine, hundred and one interview in Playboy magazine, in which he was quoted as saying I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to appoint responsibility. I don't believe in giving authority in positions of leadership in judgment to irresponsible people's fucking. I was right. If you're? GonNa. Be legit. 'cause I was like Oh plus I was scared like Shit I just ran my mouth. I don't know what I'm talking about. I. Remember seeing this years ago. Man I was like. Why aren't people talking about this? But yeah fuck man. Do. But they, but it's like I said right now. Article Right there, they. They. Come out and they're like well, you know. Is the it was the. Time the words of feeble old man, he was sixty seven years old. You WanNa, fucking. You still swag around like you will got named Duke like you actually Ouden. About the. In his plate. And Forget gingas Kahn. Their red paint. Hoya. GINGAS Kahn Yeah. Full right here, man. Yeah, he's. He said he was a bitch straight a bitch. All the all the about him of the Lai. He flipped on his friends and a minute to save his career when other people at the fighting for people's careers man. And Couch it in just being a good American. Me Ask you. This is I'm not I'm not starting. Thinking about I'm not mad, but what does that mean? Cory out here nitpicking. Nitpicking on which white people clown? PICKETT! was A me. Yeah, what? What? What? What the fuck do this time? They say stuff just to try to get a rise. Outta I'm not I'm not no I'm not I'm not going to what you're talking about. Explain yourself just like what the fuck is that me? We were just we stumbled to a conversation. and John Wages has a part of that conversation. It wasn't it wasn't like I. was at I was I was at the Baskin Robbins of racist white people are like What flavor one? Oh. What Racist White Person. Do I want now. Well we we, we would talk about police. You look though went. Hey, John, Wayne across. Are just came out of nowhere. came out of nowhere. Cops Races Mayor John Wayne. Be. Kinda. I was like wait. How do we? So I got joey like John Wayne. Get over here. To tell you something about yourself I. Got John Wayne Around here somewhere? Maybe he's right. Talk. Imagine John Wayne Year. Beginning existing? John Wayne and he's been dead. Night trying to hide. Somebody, chest was of mice Craig. Right. lethal weapon four. That's so crazy I wanna see it. Yeah. Yeah I way. I kinda do to see what they're trying to do. I WANNA. See them trying to be like A. Belay. Liam Neeson taken fifty to jump a fence. Trellis. Two hours Ole jokes. I don't need that. In Year. Or Maybe Maybe this'll be the one we'll get terms as you would never even liked. You'll black and has. Been, wanting to say this. Now that I'm on my MS MCINTYRE I hate you. The fuck out my car. Okay Okay The redemption of rigs maybe goes into a program. Almost like they pull some. It's all about him doing doing the apology tour. is almost like A. Wasn't. Is Riggs and Murtaugh Marta! Riggs was Danny Glover. No Raises Mel Gibson. Be Funny if If it was. You know what should I. Didn't I only Riggs? Murtaugh? It's. is in real life Mel Gibson I think he's Stockholm Emma. Danny Glover. He was an interview in this woman. As so, what do you feel about? Mel Gibson's comments as of late and. Danny gloves like. Look. I'm wondering. Are you trying to get bad mouth somebody I ain't going. Do what I'm going to tell anybody and was like I'm not. I'm not trying to get you Batman. Just it's. It's legit. I mean he may come inside. You worked with them. Idea the black body. Fill Nah now. I'm because you know what everybody wanted. How motel you like everybody else I'm not bad mouth Mel. Gibson I! Want you to know. I Love Mel Gibson. And as almost. The woman is Jesus. Did He fuck you? I mean he has inspired some serious loyalty. 'CAUSE 'cause you, you know. Jodie foster and Robert Downey Junior. They will say anything against anyone. They won't entertain it. It's almost as if if you take out. The alcoholism. And the racism Misogyny, he's the sweetest guy in the world. Should. Look. You said he killed my wife. Op Faucet. Do. Still breathing. Make Me Watch. He's really crazy. Help me. You Blink away saying I love milk gifts. Okay I'm not going bad about them at all. All right when you blinking late they. Need help so! What if? You Him and never knew he didn't any of that. And you had cancer. He paid for the best doctors and it got you well. When you add death door, man, and then he comes out and does. Fuck the head I mean. Look I'm not going. He did shit saying solid. Lightly but I mean look angle they. Look like a Goddamn fool. Pack of you! Know what? I'm going to be like I. At least I want to be I'm going to say you know what that guy he did. Some the kindest things me which makes a disappointing to hear him do it. I mean that was him, but you know what I'll pray for Emma hope it gets better than. A hope the re, the real meal that I know comes out, but that. Yeah, that was on call for you know I'll say something like that you. Look like I'm his bitch. A lows bill keeps. Like he just cut me Mike? Like like you fucked me till I love. And be doing this. To. Anybody. He gave me some sweet dignity. I'm look I'm just saying I'm not. GonNa to. Say something to that effect our at least acknowledge it. You have to who you know I mean. There's people that I know. People would just to take them. face value. I didn't know where I know them. And it came and said something I would have to be like. Yeah, I I know I looked that person's nice to meow no. But I get it I get you know I I've done that with several people several people. You know I've done no crazy people. You know. I know how you fucking hanging with that gun man. I love it. But, I know how crazy they can get. Get, said the Yuba once a week. I was a witness most. What expect you to be the men I love core Coleman and just leave it at that. But that month it's crazy. He was asked. No, he was shitty person. Yeah, no, but. If you knew the person on news. Yeah, but there you go all right all right, so hey, before we get into this review, let's talk about. A little something, right? He'll talking about these bad move reviews. That you guys have generously supported in the past. We got more coming up right here. Folks, you know how it goes. We start to do bad movie reviews on the regular. Classic Movies sometimes, but you guys really love the bad move reviews. And we have a batch of new ones, ray here new four bad movies to vote on. Now let me check over here. Thank you. 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It'd be leading in my dumb ass, but I I really did think that when I heard about this movie Greyhound I really did think it was about Tom Hanks being a bus about. He's been a ship captain. Pilot Yeah? Only because I only glanced at this picture because it was coming up on the Internet on like. Certain websites banners and and I heard Greyhound. I of course is about him. Driving a Greyhound bus about the captain's hat was a greyhound bus drivers. Within, I thought he was looking at a crack. Takes job seriously yeah yeah man. You know because. I was still thinking of of things like a a sully. Twenty diving for. More than enough to west drink, chemist homer beheading troubles at home. This is the captain. Brace for. You know this is what we landed a plane. Some turbulent weather's I'm so. I thought Shit I. I just assumed it was it is. He's trying to grading that he's trying to. He's trying to get the bus back to the garage for the engine explosives. Me Next movie. He'll be an ice cream. Man You. GotTa get desires cream back. To. It gets hurry. I did I didn't know. I was like. I guess he's saving saving passages before they get to Arizona. I didn't know man but I you know I guess. This is kind of the same. No You got a Greyhound bus. You got a battleship here. It's not too much different. The same Greyhound bus, you got a Greyhound battleship right here. Is that drive the bus get over. But I wanted them in. My set on. A little disappointed. It got to be honest with you know he's got this big as majestic shipment under the CAN. I get a ride. About this. But man, you know. His name in this movie is. Captain Ernst Krause. He's given his first command aboard ship called the Greyhound. I guess that's the SS Greyhound on but. I mean they must really believe in is do because. I believe on his his his first command. Manav is his first day, but this his first command. You're not only getting on this ship to like. Take charge of all these young soldiers and these kids, but you lean the whole convoy. Across the Atlantic and he wasn't like what. Not because he had a chick, he's trying to impress. Thanks everything. He's trying to get lazy like Elizabeth. He's trying to get her to marry him and get her. Follow him everywhere and she's like you know. Do, you should. Let's see where you're at about six months. AW COMMITTED! To say. Movie like he's like you know I got the Big Bang going on. They make me captain of not just the ship, but all convoy Iraq Asia and she's like you know what that's cool, but let's let's wait and see if you're gonNA. FUCK IT UP I. died first. So he's leading this convoy across the Atlantic now. Only thing has the only catch you. They got you know he's leading. The number Greyhound is leading all these ships out there. As a wolf. Wants to eat this germ wolf. You boat out there. That's what I call him the wolf. and. They ain't gonNA stop they. Like these Germans, they won't start some shit. He's we go into. You know there's GonNa follow you around everywhere you go and just keep badgering yours and to you witnessed us right now. We are not going to be satisfied. Until we start the biggest battle own, see Mona World War Two. And Captain Krause Tom. Hanks, he's like God damn, can I get settled in I? Can I leave. Get on the seventy four y'all stop blasting and talking shit. Can I least get no, the crew and they're like Nope, not at all. Man You want to be the big center. Let's see what you got. Welcome to your first day on the job. Let's go ahead. And see if. Tom Hanks Aka Captain Ernst. Krause is up for the task. As we watch this trailer for Greyhound and I will be back. Unfortunately, Martin did not see this because of complications. We ran the screening, but this okay I'm here for you. Sir. I'll tell you everything you need to know and we will find out my opinion with my review right after this. Shit would help. On this doesn't make better. Like a silent movie World War Two. Over the Atlantic this dumb ass on his first day, it'll be easy. You Roll up on this you go. Lord. Let Your Holy Angel The No power over. Into your hands. I commend myself my body and soul. Congratulations on your command. Was Be looking for you. Even if I'm a thousand miles away. Aris Hound. You. Uber Cover for the next five days. Travel Sanguine. How many crossings does this make? It's my first. Say Shit. Wait. What did he say? Wait what? You might as well get captain, crunch. WHAT THE FUCK! Johny say that. Got Some most likely to you both. We kill. Distressed rockets sir. We can get directly from the convoy. Wolfback on. Ours, we've lost seven ships. Why are you did? Yesterday got us the day. Enough. Nearly enough. Disappeared Surf. WHAT ARE WE GONNA? Do we'll rain hell down from on high? Man Trailer together. Those those monster trumpets in there. Oh, it goes to whatever they should. The whole tiny fight wells in the background. Just sharing to sit on. In the background. Whole time and you know up fighting you guys. If feels like. They were telling an actual story with this when the movie started. You know with this. You Got A. You know you starts out with Tom Hanks, trying to get with Elizabeth Shue right here. You know He tells it. Hey, look like I said he like man. I got this I got this this position? He thought it was GONNA make is like turn her moist mainly. They made me cat damone boat right here. I'm getting. Station at all these great places like the. Caribbean Jamaica Iraqi razor there. You know he's trying to impress. Watch. Come with me. New Job Well. You might even want to. Marry me and I may be able to get done on the knee and proposed to you. And and she's in. She is us, you know. Let's just wait and see how the rest of the movie goes. To See if you're gonNA fuck this up. Real bad, you know. Jump, the gun right here, we still we still got another hour and twenty minutes to goal is. Let's say I had happened. And this is your first day, right? But. Once they on their boat. They got two guys that a fight. Tom Hanks bring them into the to the cabin. Straws laying in about to find out what's going on with these two right here. And there's somebody just busting. The room got to attack and he played well. Fuck this. Let's figure it out. I. Guess this shit gotTa wait. And whatever store they had going on, but you don't find out anything about him and Elizabeth Shue. All for the rest of the movie that she didn't even addressed again. With two knuckleheads of fighting about fuck that we find out is not important. We in a tag. You boats out here. That is. that. Would you surp- everything else I've just what I'm saying is like a movie year. They'll fight and it'll come back. You know he'll call and Bishou or the two guys that were fighting. All of the. The wars going on guys under attack. These two guys who are fighting a one time. They'll realize that they were better together. They one of them say the other. Cliche, but you don't get, but don't even know who they are anymore how they've gone. You know. We never go back to the rest of these things right here. What you get is pretty much a straight up warfield from that point on. And people are saying well. That's cool. I mean that's what I'm here to see. I'm here to see Warfield trailer advertised me, you know. Let's get straight to the fighting to the action. I'm fine with that, and they do get to that, but beforehand they got gotta. Make a few commands in a pressing buttons. Pull some levers. Release a messages. You know of course charts some graphs. Drought some. Drought some lines on a board so people what they need to do. The To point you'd like Damn. Movies. We just start getting right into it, you know prepping for a battle is very long and detailed. Hell. You don't want to die. Yeah, but I'm just saying you know not listened to combat the movie. Legally the real people. You know expire by true of. All Right? This is just like you know. I'm looking at this and this is like. Wow, man, it takes. You know so. We kind of just prepping in real time. You're not going to join the navy. This stuff right here. Man Is A. You know it was kind of like being at a kind of like being at a restaurant in the kitchen. Just watch people prepare your. Why you waiting on is like all right, you know. Cool. I guess, maybe the payoff will great when we get to the battle, but even when the fighting starts in this, even finding starts, it takes a while before you feel like you were actually part of the action, because this dicken pretty much to the point of view of the crew and the people on the ship right here. The Greyhound. Will torpedo an enemy. That we don't see. And you hear boom. Some be some cheers. you'll see oil slick on the water and you're like well. Should I guess we gotta? But. You don't really see you. Don't get the glorious special effects of. The, the ship blown up underwater, and all the bodies, floating and people on fire, and all kinds of yeah. Yeah, you don't. You don't really see all that again. Because taken place from the point of view of the people in the ship while you work all these people working together You know you see. You. Do see other ships. Getting attacked. But usually see those ships getting attacked off in the distance because again. You're on the ship. Looking at what's going on out there. Okay, so it is trying to get. It's giving you that experience. Yeah, yeah, it's not you know a fully submerged experience, because not everything is in real time a lot of preparation before they go into like actually. Fighting each other, but It's not this. Is Not one cut like nine hundred seventeen. Anything like that is. Edited time passes. Hours passed. So. You're not fully emerged, but at the same time you. Re Fat. Anybody's going in looking for just like a straight up. A warm movie for the fighting is loud and continuous, and we're seeing all the graphic. Wars Hill type imagery. You're not getting it right here. is to. Cool still looks impressive from. Is just that. You know like I, said. That's what the movie's really doing. You know what's really impressive is what they're doing because it looks good, but mainly because of the water that they have going on like the the spectacle of pretty much the ocean baseness while the ships on there. And when they start fighting. is almost like the water just instigating shit. Yeah! Wanted just trying to. Trying to start shit with people and talk to you like. To Square off with each other when I'm just pushes one. Wants one. The pushes one ship to another one. Yeah, you motherfucker fight. You know this this is. The the. The I. This is this a siege, but Also. You know some of this I. Guess could count as again the cinematic scope of these fights. That's impressive. Looking at the best the ocean how violent it gets interpreted against these people are fighting. That is cool. So, I can see why Tom Hanks was kind of disappointing Tom. Hanks Z. came, and he's like you know I. I. I wish this could have been on the big screen, but fuck. I'm just in Dhaka road. Yeah, you know, so. I I can see why. It's a good looking film, even though you might not be getting the being thrown into action like you want to. Slow looking forward saving private Ryan on the water. Then that's not what you get in here. What it sounds like this be a good move for people who are the actual military history. Buffs would watch the kind of action movie that most people get excited about and go. That's not how that would happen. Yeah, I mean well. I'll tell you what really. What they're trying to do here because. It takes about they do eventually get into. Close range battles with each other. Do Start to get in the middle of the fight after a while, it takes about forty minutes to get there. I was able to stop and look and see if there's a moment where. He's huge. Has Bullets Stop Pelton? The Greyhound. It's like okay now. This is probably what people looking for. And then starts to feel more like a traditional warfield. And you know and that's that's when. You know even at that point. Is Pretty Tame. At you know you start to feel like you're right into it. You start to actually get all the. Surrounding sound with everything and whatnot, but even that is pretty brief after moment because that's not what they're trying to do, I'll tell you the the the reasons why I think that the battles in here. Are Relatively. Taint compared to the recent war movies that we've seen because you know war movies now they try to show you. All the gory details goes yeah. Yes Saving Private Ryan opened a a whole new door. Oh yeah, no none of that. You know that that glorious ruled John Wayne. Down the beach, bullets flying by you do that Shit. You GonNa lose a job on an arm and a leg. And that's what happens here. Man. Is that they they? They tried to like. Get into that. What I really going into a man. It's a PG thirteen movie. Okay, it's the PG thirteen films, so you know. The blood and Gore is not not not the point. They got they got one moment in here. Where the the the worst that we see the worst violence we see? Stadium somebody getting hit a bullet. Hit some glass in the glass at the person in the face oh seriously. Oh, and they and I'll tell you the even like. Glasses them another soldier comes up and it's like a man, also other them. Blood. We trying to do is get US already. You don't have gone. Off. Yeah. So they they are careful not to show you Anaconda Gore is not that kind of movie. You get one one person saying fuck. That's it okay. You know they hit. At they, they don't show it. They hint at a horrible mutilation in this movie. You see some of the effects and most of the Hor- comes from John Tom Hanks right here Tom. Hanks is looking at then. He's like God. Damn. They fucked at personnel. And I was in saving private Ryan a lot of Shit. I'm looking at this. person completely up. You know. kind of describe what happened is person, but you don't you don't see. The reason why is because to? This is the movie about a guy who just got his command pretty much first day on the job. In. It's about his leadership. Those? Guy. That gets on there. And When he gets on. It's not even noon. Before somebody comes in and says yeah, as this shit about to go down. Can. I finish my lunch. No! Lunch he was barely finished with breakfast and I'm not even letting he had A. Black Dude just came out served him breakfast. Look like the cream of wheat, man just came out, and put a plate down in front of him, and served him breakfast, and did not, he did not get first of all. He looked irritated because he's of fighting. God Damn Y'all. Can you just let me settle in finish breakfast? And before he could even settle things with this with these guys. Then Shit starts to go down and it's the guy who he doesn't even. You don't even know these people's names Is. He's constantly fucking people's names up on this ship. Thank, you Larry Barry Sir. Yeah Man. He, he the crew. Yes not gain that confidence yet. And he's not very confident. Himself I mean you know he has enough to to worry about trying to deploy a lot of ships under his. Under his leadership here Much less have to gain the confidence of a crew. That is that normally. They would be able to get at least a you days to get to know him better. The in plus on top that. It really doesn't help that. The Germans just keep fucking with him. Yeah, I this, this funny looking at it as like okay, so the Germans they got. Wolves are hungry wolves, and and skulls and swastikas painted on their boats. To make them look extra evil, whereas the American boats are just they just nice yeah. What we're just the nice guy with those guys are mean. What? Ship was like a Greyhound bus. And they fuck with this, do and he? Is the. Betty Shit I'll be having a bad day. It's like crank calls. Gets, to, appoint serious, view like What? You've only was that. What do you want hello? Going to, fuck, you up. We're going to kill you. They really ought to. Some! It's almost like the joke is on. His Way. There is an actual line in there where some shit with down and people died in. Are they going into the next day? And? They can't come in against her. He's fucking. Once you get on with you. And God now. The Pins Shitty the Guy I'm not even acting like wolves. Halo? Did you think we will gone? No, we're still going to kill you. You will hear the screams. Of the children on that Serb. You. Know, you need to get these people man. Get the fuck up. And people look at him the whole time like Danny puck million. You'RE GONNA take. You say nothing back. Says he know what to say? We'll we'll we'll get you to. Do. Well WH-. Rough. Go. To? Chennai fruit and they do sound like. Did. You think you were gone. No, we still going to kill. You can be nice about it. God Damn Man. What you have here is. You have a a war film. You do have a war film that. Has Hollywood visuals, but not a Hollywood story. This thing here. It's more of a character. Piece is focused on one central character and is focused on his leadership. Because his focus so much on him. You don't even really get to know the rest of the crew that much I mean. Which is again depending on what you're looking for, it can be good or bad. Because the again you're voiding all those cliches that we talked about these. Because like. If you see midway, it's just full of those cliches. Okay. This is the Anti Midway in because it is so focused on Captain Ernst that. They That the other characters? Is Pretty much just doing the job I. Didn't write. The character as well is just. It's a guy who's supposed to keep these people in line. Keep them doing jobs. Keep them from panicking and. That's pretty much it i. mean think about something like. DUNKIRK! Dunkirk it was you know you just follow any soldiers doing that? Thing right right? If dunkirk appealed to you, the might actually appeal to you to well okay, so the recognizable faces of course Tom, hanks and Elizabeth shoot. You mentioned the only other person recognizes Stephen Graham. Does he get to do much. You get to know him. Well. I'll tell you about that in a little bit because that's that's one of the things that they do here. Is. You have familiar faces, but the not into that much you know. Some of the cliches that you have here that they avoid completely like There's one kid in here that they that. Tom Hanks and the rest of the crew you can tell they fucking hate this kid. because. He's he's. He's like the scare soldier. Yeah, you know he's the and in any other movie he'd be the one. Get somebody killed mess up. Something on the ship are he'd be the scary guy to come in and save the day later on step up, but this he's Fox up so much that everybody just looks at him and finally. Somebody says you do this one more goddamn time day. Fuck up one more time. Points like. Okay. Okay, yeah, he gives back and. They scared them off. But he goes back and does his job, and there's no cliches like that. They just every you must good. To me I thought it was a good thing. It's other people might see lack of character, but. The point of that is that Tom. Hanks plays a leader where he supposed to go in. and. Hold it down for everybody. He supposed to instill confidence in tells one person wants also starts to panic. He says remember training. and. That's his job is so what you do see? Here's a guy who. Who you know he's. Some people see him as being experienced enough to do this job, some people. They are confident nothing for him to do this job, he wonders. I don't even know if I'm capable of doing this. You know you even people like a committee him on like. Wow, you know. Anybody cracked under this shit. Yeah, so the soak the focal point is him and how this one guy has to hold everything now for this huge battle one the biggest battles to be done at sea during World War Two. You know now as I say it does that. Always translate well. No, because you're ready to ask Stephen. Graham Stephen You know you wanna see more done with people like Stephen Graham because again. This is sort of you. Get the feeling the beginning of the movie. Like Stephen Graham's character. He's thinking in command and you get the feeling that there's GonNa, be a spark shot spot captain Kirk thing going on with them William Shatner thing going on. It's like that's not even developed because again. Like I, said is almost like the movie was doing something and he just got attacked another film in Nate and get to go back to what it is that they were doing before. I. I appreciate that aspect of it because it does avoid allowed the things that we get tired of seeing in Warfield things that are starting to reach that point where it's like all right. This is predictable. Is something where? I've seen so many times that. Even though even in might be cool. Let's try to do something different. and Tom Hanks wrote this script so I think. That's probably why Senate the shit on him. A. Bigger when I? I read this group. Don't worry about it. Yeah, you know. But. I do think it was written to like not be your typical war film out there. WHAT THEY WANNA do is show you somebody, give you the the tension that you're supposed to get is putting yourself in a position of this man. WHO At any moment could if he dies. Every everything falls apart and that's a lot to be on person right there now. If you WANNA know my real complaint about the movie. 'cause I could someone out of the stuff again as I said nothing, everybody who's looking for a more traditional warfield, but this is something that just. Does not does not mean. They don't show you this in the trailer that trailer. It's probably put together in these days to not show this because nobody wants to see this shit, but rob Morgan around Morgan's yeah yeah great actor. Yes, yes, he is! He's in the movie, okay? Thank like Oh shit. Roy, Morgan being a great actor, he would have a major role in this film. You know you'd think that. Maybe he's like I. Don't know the first black soldiers on on this ship. Get small parts, but he's one of my favorite actors. Yeah. I understand that he'd get small parts, but God Damn You have to make. The cream of wheat man. Oh. That's his boy. His Bra Morgan who is up and coming great acting that brother. In this. Sub Servant roles like this anyway I mean I know that actors got take jobs I. Know that this and for the time period. That's how that's. How was the topic, but I don't WanNa see shit. Especially when you got movie about all these heroes and this dude, who's supposed to be up and coming Negroes? costantly serving in this movie. Is My. Mammy from gone with the wind gotTA. Make sure that that Mr. Tom Hanks eats. You know mayonnaise eight all day. There's brothers keeps a trait in his hand. Through this whole movie. Keeps the train his hand and After every battle at every battle come in and would've different with a different entree. Got corned Beef Hash Sandwich, will you? So. Crazy. Wouldn't you eat all day? I got a big as sandwich for you sir. So you've got to get up in some more sandwiches, they're God. His role was to read a menu. Hours I'm sorry I know people will, and it's not going to matter some people and I. Get it, but I. That guy's an awesome acting and I'm not lying I'm not exaggerating what you see right? Here is what he's doing serving. Throughout the whole field. Whenever, whatever whenever he gets a chance to come in. I think it was a moment that he was about to come in and gives them serious dollar on. TRAE it makes you about eight verse so if you don't mind my saying before you. BET! I'm feeling really just right now. You make me a little something. And, you know what they say. Ain't got him, you know. Acting slavish in here. You Ain't like. Mr Hang Soo. You Gusty, but it is. This close is like you know this eight eight days I gotTA. Make sure they he gets at least a sandwich or something. Airtime some happening. They're gonNA. Try to give him a big Geraldo roll up to some dirty shit. Now man, fuck all that. No No, no, not at all. I mean I can understand if he was even with somebody who? Was a name like rob. Morgan I know Roy. Moore the big name in Hollywood, but he's up there now. Be like alright. You get this brother more to do than this right here. It's a thankless role. There should be somebody. Who and he would if he was a day later, he keep telling me straight. Look Man I just took. What I I I got to work. Right shaming him for taking it anyway. You don't turn down being Tom Hanks pitcher I'm sorry. I. Don't know I guess I'm not I'm not him I don't know what conditions took an even trying to shame. This person for taking understand you've got take their roles, but I just feel bad looking at it like damn I mean you know, and it could be initially had more, but once they start editing it down. They like well. This breaks the flow. It's gotTa go, yeah. Yeah if you saw a movie realism and much more, too, I mean. Maybe there was some Dennis to serve. As some sandwiches to make. As he was talking Shit. you know it might have been the case, but yeah man I. That's one of the biggest complaints I had with all the other stuff can be debatable. will say that maybe. When I tell you about all the levers and the buns they had to push in the him real relaying messages back and forth because they do all this stuff. President pulled a lever commander ten. What do relate his back to that guy and they do all that and they do all over again. That is not going to be for some people. I will say that right now. It might drag a little bit. Put a fan of Tom Hanks. Even Tom Hanks doesn't have a whole lot to do beyond was. He's doing as far as commanded ship is. Some movie of urgency so. I guess the best way to break it down is if you're looking for a bloody straight out non, Stop Combat Field Warfield Film. On the side of something that we see lately, the more rated R. Graphic war films where you get to see the people's limbs blow off and guts hanging out and all that kind of stuff. You not getting that here, not at all. This is A. Dare say that this is something even a little more family oriented. A, but if you're willing to give this a chance on the level of all right. All that stuff has ran its course with me. Let's go ahead and see the war from another. Narrative perspective then this would probably be for you. Only besides the gas serving I agree with you I. mean you see it, but you ask how some of the other people I tell us. They dropped some lines. Which means you don't really see people again are once they focused on. The main story in cares. Just don't have any place anymore. Except for like small part soon, there that could be a little disappointing, but. It is worth the look is certainly as if I'd gone to see this on the big screen, we would have been saying like man. It looks great updating. This is amazing. What watching on Apple, plus which is where is right now? Apple, apple, plus TV or whatever it is I was fine watching it that way. You know it. Is that movie where you have great. Picture if you have a four K. television releases four K. been. Yeah, this is awesome man. But overall. Not Bad at all man. Kind of fresh. As far as a take on war and I, give it a matinee. And your wrap up. I feel like I. was one of those boats 'cause? You kept saying? But but but it was like which we which way you. Money on the Audio wrap-ups. Overlooks because I need to know I'm not talking. I'm an on you about repeating things, professor ask. You you. GotTa be professor. Insult me. How you like this is positive, but this is negative, but this is positive, but this is negative. And I was just like which we go land on this well, you know it's it's hard to. See How people following this? Because what's going to be one person's positive is going to be somebody. Else's negative definitely. Yeah, because you just not. Because the way this is advertised because they're not telling you that. This is Tom Hanks in his movie. About commanded his ship. They're making it. Look like you're going into. All these epochs ship data's and. And, yeah, it's in there, but not in the capacity that you get so that's that's why it's a little tricky because you got to let people know like you will. If you will enjoy this if you looking for something that is not a the ordinary. so let me ask you this. Do you think it is a mistake that didn't come out last weekend? Well considering that they would have been up against Hamilton. With the Stream and stuff going on now? Why because Fourth of July July because I mean it's a whole weekend's a three day. Weekend is plenty of time to watch both. Yeah! Because it's not really like you're against this other thing. You that's. That's a great question because. On the one hand you write for. The July would have been perp for something like this and they especially especially when you say, it's more suited for families. And you know different. It's a different demographic you now. You may have a point because you know. These old white veterans ain't going to watch. Black people play the founding fathers of America right so that is. Because NASA great question because normally would have said wow, yeah. is going up against Hamilton but I mean. I would think about it would have been. That probably would have been worth a chance I. Mean I'm surprised. I mean maybe just production reasons. They couldn't. I'm surprised they didn't push. Get it out. Another thing with A. Somebody Chats Fuck Hamilton. I hate man. Killed in a duel. I could have been because this was. Something that was originally supposed to go at the isn't the last minute they decided not the last night. It was like a couple of months ago to the side of the opponent, so maybe because they had to make some kind of arrangements or something. I, don't know. Maybe they could have thought like they would have been too much going on on that fourth of July weekend. Maybe everybody else has the idea of putting stuff up gas, but you know I mean that's. A war movie and they can get it out for them they try to. Yeah I do not know it'd be a perfect thing to look up because I don't have the answer to why they decide to do that, but that is. That would have been a great idea that definitely would. But let me just say this to. Streaming on Apple, plus and allow these old vets man. This shit got. Should they barely learn how to get Netflix's, so you know who? But Hey if you are at Gibb Grandfather's house and they happen to have apple plus put it on for him. I didn't even know this is on this. This is not got the isn't it? Hasn't got a whole lot of a marketing. Yeah, I guess so because even when you brought it up to me, I was like Sega Yeah. Yeah, a lot of people enough even for four Tom Hanks movie out. People didn't even so I. Hardly ever hear movies being on apple plus. That was a weird. Weird thing. I'm surprised they didn't hold out for something like netflix's and. Maybe, apple plus paid a whole lot because they're trying to build an offshore imperatives I don't know. You ask a lot of great questions. Man and I saw I don't have the answers for him, but they they all legit I. Don't know I don't know you got me thinking. Yeah, why didn't they do this shit? Damn Apple you stupid. But I do give it a matinee I. DO think worthwhile. But you have to again you have to know. What you get into, think when you really know what you're getting into, make a better experience for you. Get you prepared? We'll see. We'll see some I'm wonder how this is going to perform man I don't even know who's GonNa perform there will. Be An on a platform like apple, plus which isn't caught up at everybody yet, and it's not having as much marketing as a thinking. Thought we give for Tom Hanks movie. I guess. The Hamilton backlashes happened. Oh has it. I guess I. Mean I've been hearing more people. I Fuck Hamilton Oh. Is Passable at best. Well of course when it's something, everybody loves. That's of course going to happen Jesus. Maybe I should have held out I. Mean You you remember the frozen backlash. The movie on the was yeah. I didn't even know that I thought everybody loved Froze Asi. By love frozen out there. Oh. Let's see here. Tell you what we're about to get into something here. Talk about a series. That's coming up pretty soon before we do that. Let's take a quick break. And let me see. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. With our discussion of The boys season to drop the trailer for. We'll talk about that. You love the I loved it. Yeah I love to. I think it's still stands is one of my favorite superhero. He's honestly when it was done, I was said I was mad as Hell. I'm right there with the people. Stay tuned I'm sure a lot of you loved this series, too, so join us into discussion and we'll do that right after we get back from this Let's see into an email. I WanNa hang around all day. Renew Milk and no people sent us a lot here. Let's see. ooh! Have you guys had a chance to watch the heavy metal show. are the trailer I think it would be a fun thing, but you guys do critique because of how bad some of the acting in direction is really. What is a new heavy metal show? I heard them talking about a new heavy metal show. They put up. They put up a trailer in the email that comes from ill. Lives! I heard them talking about doing a heavy metal show really. Yeah heavy metal I the magazine or just the music. That's a good question here. Oh? This looks like he's Lad. is this. Is this a live action version of a heavy metal magazine Oh good Lord. No. Fit, that's the your first mistake. Nice see what this is right here. Raise original. You know what is a nudity in this thing. Sure was all over heavy metal. Yes, that's what I'm wondering I said. Let me look at this. is their nudity in this because they? I can't show this. All you boy sparring is in it. Which one wasn't a Michael J. White Oh. Yeah I. Don't think nudity in here. Being careful y'all. I'm trying to make sure so. Let's go take a look. What good a kingdom faced! Was Like Zach Snyder Directing director episodes Zena rates. People on. I don't know I. I'm so used to the idea of heavy metal being animated. Some little byas probably will not only that but. I mean the art was. At least sixty percent of what made heavy metal, heavy metal, and the fact that it was experimental and European. Yeah, and yeah, this looks like you like you say like like Xena. Is that. HEAVY METAL! Was You read it after? A lifetime superhero comments you read it kind of blow your mind. The going forward or it's raw there. There's there's nudity violence like I've never seen or just. The the design is so different than than anything I've seen before. This is none of that no. I, mean yeah, you got to stuntman who've rated a props department. Robot in the corner. Like a machine. Yeah Yeah, I. I. Don't know I haven't heard about this. Looks again like we were saying. Let's like any episode of Sindbad. Assumption I know. I'm not. Nothing nothing that's exciting me. I even know this was out me, so it's out. Our is coming. I don't know. You haven't heard about it I. Haven't heard about it I. Don't know what the hell this is now. But does that feeling of. GotTa Watch it just to. At least give it a chance. At least be able to talk some shit. So, let's TB fourteen. That's funny. 'cause. I discovered heavy middle when I was fourteen, but it was very. Dirty! Jeez you rediscovered. Lose this war. Situation Pitiful. So This is Sifi. Oh well shit man. Michelle lead with that. Sorry. I just. Outside. 'cause feel, but he was saying well. Yeah, there's explanation right there. I I don't anything about him. An fallen no I'm just I'm looking at the worst parts, but it definitely doesn't look like anything that would interest me. Slept Shit Outta you waste of my time. I'd be more excited to asylum. Walking in. Oh. Sorry Yeah, at least they would. At least it would have been funny. But Yeah Man I. Don't get it I mean I. I don't I don't I, haven't seen it I was a huge fan of the movie. Heavy metal but I didn't even know that this was on. I heard that they will make new heavy metal, but I thought it was going to be animated. Yeah, yeah, so I don't know I don't know. If. Anybody's seen it. Let us know I. Don't judge something I hadn't seen before, so we'll see. All Right? Let's go ahead and. Get into this discussion here. Oh, let's see. Off Bring up the trailer. I did not hold on you. Bring up the trailer for this. Use Me use me. There we go. Bring this up right here. soul I moved over. and. We go, so let's see. So I made a bold statement. When does come out like maybe two years ago you and a half ago? Wasn't all that long ago? I made a bold statement. Does a little over a year go? We'll go with that and I said that. The boys, the series on Amazon. is at that time was my favorite superhero property that was out there. They weren't afraid to go. Hard are with it. They had the same superhero tropes that you see all the time, but they put a little different spin on. It gave it a little more of an explanation of why they were there. That made all the difference. For something I thought it was just going to be some a bunch of just childish violence in the being one of the most thoughtful I thought superheroes stories out relevant socially relevant to. Yeah I actually really loved this, so the only thing that Piss me off was like you show me something so good and you stopped and made my ass. Wait for over a year to get the next one. I I was pissed off about that. I don't think you should do people like the. Watchmen come in right after. Yeah yeah watchmen. Watchmen was cool. Light Watchman's one of those things where it's like all right, you know what? The fuck is happening. And and that was Donald Purpose. You won't know until we get to this spot right here. You know every week I mean you don't? You don't have to understand a whole lot with? Somebody's getting a head crushed. Somebody's getting like oral sex in wish. The is. That understand every week. What I liked about it was that every week there was. It was packed with humor yeah. Was always knew that they did some violence which is like God damn? Yeah? Everything the real every weekday without do themselves like I, said a chick was like Gimson guy oral sex. And crushed his head. A lot of. Right there, put that together and. At the same time as I said you know? They were always revealing on every episode about how taken the superhero genre and just flipping around I really enjoyed that with this man. You know definitely something like watchmen was very thoughtful in. and was very intelligent like that. This was very smart, but also just it was a lot of just. Almost teenage Lee and what they were doing were, but it never really stupid that level like it could him. They just put out season two. Are the trailer for season. Two and Martin has not seen I wash is about three times today I'm really eager to sit here and see your reaction to this. So let's go ahead and get to it and we'll be back to elaborate even more after. This. Federal authorities have initiated a multi-state manhunt for William, Butcher. If anyone's Buck William Butcher or any of his notice, societas Marvin Milk Hugh Campbell or this man. Please call one eight eight zero cry. World still needs superheroes. So. Let's get out there. Is Technically. We all famous now. Don't you worry? Daddy's home. Chance. Was His name, Call Urban Karl. Urban is never look so crazy. Did you see the picture, his nostrils up to his island. US Looking Wild House, like I've never seen this man, look this crazy before. He scares me in this. That's going to be part of my discussion about this about about his character and some things that he's done. We'll talk about in a little bit regarding season to. have been through some shit. Again. Control. What's your being planned? All of it I, never love it. Never fucking love it. Now. I you twice lucky on showed up. September twenty fourth. I don't like summer goes by too fast, but I'm looking forward to that date right there, it said September, twenty four th, but what I read was not soon enough. Goddamn right about that. I mean is giving you everything and I'll. It looks like everything. I love from the first one I. Don't even more of Yeah Yeah just a little bit more. In advertising they're highlighting. The character. Of Butcher Carl character in this, he's one. It's taking up a lot of the spotlight here. He's GonNa. Allow the dialogue that you see. He's the one that everybody's teasing. Oh, he's back, but the one that I cannot wait to see. Is You, boy, highland of me I know. I look because I love this character I. Love this character. I hate this character so much, but he's so good that actor so good. That act is so great minute I look I mean he is so good at just being a Dick, not a villain, but a difference between being A. Dick. Like bill when you take on James Bond a superman addict when you put your kid off the road. Dig. Tipped. You really did not man. What's up? Dude think coming from last season. He's the thing you've got to remember that. highlander still somewhat of a child. You see these like he acts like He. He's in charge of everything, but he's. He's emotionally not fully developed imagine. All the superpowers in a will ferrell character. I mean look at that smile happy! Happy. Just, premeditated Dick nece right there. And, and here's the thing is the boys so if you think that this little boy landed on some Sawgrass Mall? No, there's a bone sticking out somewhere. Is Josh sticking out halfway across the line of something? Yeah, done nobody go easy. And never that well I'm sure they'll be all right. No No, not at all I mean if you get him to the hospital in time. We give me a shovel. I mean we can get. This character is not emotionally development. That's what. That's what I love about. This I think that that's A. He's having a rivalry going on with a kid. Yeah, Look Your Big Superpower S. Senate pages messing with this little boy I can't wait to see how that plays out well especially when you think about where we cut off last time. Yeah, no, I. Think I don't want to say what it was, but that cliffhanger leads to. Even more about his his emotionally stunted behavior, wise probably pushing that kid off the roof I want to see how that plays out. Because now. You got this guy who was unstable. WHO's? Being unleashed even more. This motherfucker terrifies me. Can you imagine if we if he was around two day or doing doing the protests and everything? Black lives on me shit. Black lives matter to everybody else, but. Yeah. It'd be like well I. Guess it sells at arguments. Everybody dick the t shirts off now. They want to let you know. He does not need to be around for billion these days. Were here they they they. Won the, first big gruesome things he did was just blast his black dude in here. Fuck off. Don't care. Take that. With his hands still. He blasted him so fast. He's still saying fuck. Like a cartoon. The Guy who plays his soul, amazing man. Antony Star I think that's you right? That's why I love that character so much because that guy plays him so well Australian. Actor think right because we see that kind of evil superman before, and it's almost kinda played, but this guy just brought like for so long. He was in the background, and then once he comes forward so much dimension to him. More than I thought I would. Expect from that. I thought that that character I thought I would absolutely. Hate this character man and I found myself. It's almost. Like men I feel form to yeah to a degree. Well if he wasn't. He wasn't like super, powered and murderers in murderers as You know being a being a brat. Being a big grown as Brett and having laser powers. It's a dangerous combination but I. was surprised at how much they made me feel for that character. That's why this season I'm looking forward to what they do with this. Because a lot of that came from The character development side of the science fiction aspect of the shown. Did you ever see that short that they did? Where'd they explain why? Homeland of probably is like he is no. That's probably why feel for this character. They did a short where they. These are. These are actually. A signed scientific experiments. The nuts the digit. The. Mutated people being put into like super super power close I mean the way x-men level you know. They had a short where they showed homeland as a kid brim brought up in a lab, and all these different people being brought out, so they just showed how as a child he never had any stability in his life. Use Your own up in Israel. sterile environment that just fucked up his brain, and never should have been let loose as a marketing tool. I way, I don't WanNA spoil it for a little bit of this this this. This is the one thing they made me see it. It was online its online, but it is one thing that made me feel like shit. No one of his guys disturbed. You know no, no one. No one raises boy right. And your always take care of me. Always. Out. It's okay. We'll take care of her. Just like the. Others. She Nannies Toilet. Paper They show that the like they've been doing a lot to this kid to make him scared, should so it's like that's kind of why he's. He has that whole thing of being a. Know needing needing a mommy figure in his life. If they explore more of their science fiction part, there were they show the how these people brought up in lab, and how that affected them the nets going to beat I. Think make it even better season. Well can't man. You got that that whole butcher at the end. Where you like okay, Yoho, reason for doing this is now in question. That's an you write about them as another thing that I hope that they. That they address because they. Make an they're making. It seem like Bush begged just for another fun romp with the boys, and it's like well. No, he he's. He seems much more driven and crazier than he did last. Like he's on a mission because they like even his is is just kind of like not focusing on anybody. In the first season. You know he's on his mission, but he seemed to care about his team, and now he just like come on. Boys are your less less. Out there. We're doing this. Yeah, y'all man. Yes, there's some things that happen. Yeah, fuck all that. Let's go. That's what I hope that I hope that from what we left off the they have to explore the moral complexities of this guy. Yeah, because he was fucked up by the end and I know people I love. How ended where we're not gonNa tell you what happened at the end of the season one, but if you watched season one, it's kind of divisive. He does something where some people like. Well. You know what he went through and I'm on. I'm on the side like that was a little crazy. That was uncalled for what he did and I. Hope that that's explorer. Even a little bit more out the even take it to the point with bushes, even seen as kind of like all right, you'll start to turn to limit of a billing yourself. Did. They do that in a comic. No no okay. But this is already way better than. Half of the COM. Yeah, yeah, it's. It's the kind of gets better. The longer it goes on, but this is still better. Yeah. Also there was that whole thing with foreign powers starting to make their own. Tournament a super villains. Dave teased at They've teased that. Not, only are they going to? START FOCUSING On some other characters, but they're gonNA. Start talking about the political side of things too, and they've already teased that. Would a few things for one. Teased by bringing in somebody that everybody was wondering. Why is this guy even here? What is it black and war? A what oh? That's right. That's right. Yeah, yeah, blackmore, when he brought here their Batman character. Yeah, it's like for the whole time. He didn't do shit right like. Is He a minority? What is what does he do besides just dress up? Like snake eyes from Gi Joe. And I guess the whole time they were like. That was Donald Purpose. Just wait because I was one of the people I was like okay. Everybody is cool I'm loveness, but what the fuck does that guy do? Take. Turns out that the detainees in like he's won the probably the most bad as member on the team. When they introduced the political side of it because they've already shown that. What happens when it gets to terrorist hands, and they start making terrorist superheroes, and now they gotta send. some of the the soups as they call them. They gotTA. Take Them Outta Fun love and Marketing Image that they have actually sin them on secret missions to stop all these people who were on. What was it called Something, v a compound think what was called. The got to keep that from making a terrorist and other Other figures from four nations pretty much super weapons. took. Still Thinking about how you? Thought. Taylor to in transition. Right they're. Caught that expresses welk. Now, you read man that's that's. That's that I'm glad to see them. Expand on. That's one of the reasons why I like. This is my favorite. My favorite superhero property because they're not just going into the supernatural area. They have a nice scientific explanation for what's going on and this one the A. Few, Superhero Properties, where I've I've seen it in, says exaggerated at all. This stuff is man. You've managed to really fit this in the real world. Pretty well they have. The the Justice League movie we desert. Zach, Snyder says. Martin See. You know what I'm looking forward to So. We just talking about Elizabeth Shue, she was so great. In this show man, she was yeah. I was so happy to see her. Be Given like a great role. She killed it that, but they got some new people coming in. who going to be kind of taken her role on our her position at least they tease Giancarlo Esposito, man. Everywhere she is a villainous, is fucking everything he's in. He's he's lex luther on the Harley Quinn show. Are you serious and? All of these rows, he's playing gusts frame. Sit I'm Blake I'm making blue meth over here making Blue Kryptonite. I'm making compound V. Blue over here he. Yeah I gotta ask you after watching this because I'm looking forward to him. In this role now you've got me thinking like okay. is He really playing kind of the same character? As where you make a great villain, and everybody's those are all the scripts. Come into him and he's like well. It's work. Mono! Shit. Dressed just like gus fraying when not wearing his chicken uniform? Me This is the same, got the same glasses and everything man. Have you heard of something called the broken the bed. No, what is slipping on AMC today? Just seeing what's on the channels and it's coming soon. The broken the bad is a trailer and looks like it showed him. It's like it's alternate. Ultimate earth alternate universe breaking bad shorts. Stories! You're really gonNA milk, the shit out of. Just get. Gus Spraying common out. You know what we. Know what you should, you should make a cooking show at Gus. So to make his. Special better. When he assisted can get it right around slices box. Carefully Rolls. Backed off of watches. Now, what are we? But look at this if he's playing the same character chickens. subheading sixteen. We need a top secret Yankee White designation for compound state. Only one man okay is that you want to stroll into the oval? Office and start barking. Orders, Oh, yes, have our own heroes don't compound being veins. You on China find. He's like gusting accent in little more and more gay. Who Cares? Retire about those no house. Yeah, I don't know how was cited. Not You and you talking about doing unbelievable Fuck Negra? wrote a SIP. Suck. People will think back to his character in those. Maze runner movies. As right? That's right flaming. Man We'll see I'm still looking forward to it though I'm still looking forward to what he's doing this man. Yeah I tell you this much though. Trail almost as a warning. So you know if you thought you were offended by some of the things that happened in the first series of the first season. As far as violence goes, then you don't WanNa come around here for a second season because. At this point we again. Doubling down on all of it, I'm just looking some of the violence. They doing just like John just challenged with the city. It's like man with need. Not want all that blood on his suit. That's what makes it look cool. Just do. Serious Yeah Man I'm. A lot that A. That I'm looking forward to hear man. I really am I. I. The virus never been something took Leeann. You know like going hard and stuff like that but. It could be with all the goal that they have in here. The definitely tell you this going to be a lot. But I thought the riding was so good in the first season, and it looks like they're teasing on elaborating those things even more yes. It's it's funny. How at first it can feel a little gratuitous, but then quickly you'll like. It's making a point, yeah! Yeah No! I mean. Look at it, and I'm kind of repulsed by. It's like well. You supposed to walk, yeah, you. Guys, Middle Finger just got sliced off his body, still floating Aaron squishing People's heads. It's like. Looking at this and you know you're. You're you're you know you get hard or something? Wrong with you, but yeah, I Very much looking forward to this man. So we'll see September twenty fourth. Anthony you looking forward to add no, no, no I'm I'm excited. Yeah Yeah same here. I'm going to try to get it to where hopefully maybe we can get. episodes okay. Yeah, yeah! I'm trying to connect with people, so we can get Tehran. Tomatoes is kind of helped in that area. Really Yeah. You mentioned the name by the way. Hail Hydra and rotten tomatoes. Come right on in Mr Coleman you come in and drop those tomatoes, people. They pay attention. Man I had that at times when they're like. Hey, can I get screener for this? Yeah. You're rotten tomatoes, aren't you? Come on in then being able to show like that. You have your own dedicated. Just a cascade reviews on there. I'll think it helps that. We got a lot of splits. But. Certainly the link to the page because I can't find I was looking for it one time just type in double toasted rotten tomatoes. Okay so you're right to all right. At least that's what I did. Because I look I. Don't know the the direct linked to our page. Show you. Since, we're talking here. Let me, see what happens. Yeah, I'm on type in. Let's see. Let's go over here so I'm type in for anybody who wants to look at it double. toasted. ROTTEN TALL! Their mantle. Of. CORRECT ANYWAY THERE YOU GO! Yeah, look, look. Okay, take your right to it. They haven't updated the shit. Some fresh. Fresh about fifty fifty. Even don't a lot of tomatoes that people. let's see. Yeah Man! I'm trying to be more favorable even gone in A. Put reviews of some of movies that something like some of the bad reviews Oh. Really Yeah, Oh, how funny! Yeah I saw mortal Kombat on there. I'm sure they're like. Hey, there's nothing else coming out. Yeah, there's more to combat. Oh mortal. Kombat! Scorpions revenge. But. They have put up some other stuff you my saw like. I saw them put up a old movie. Where where is IT MISSISSIPPI TO? Me Yeah Hammer is up there. Yeah. It needs to be updated, but we got the page man. So. It helps it really does help. Putting that out there so I think I'll think I'll be able to get us some early screenings of the boys so that we can actually. Review it in well. You'RE NOT GONNA be able to bench. That's another thing. was that. Maybe I don't know if they're putting all the episodes at the same time so maybe they would give us four episodes to review I prefer that they're trying to bench all of it. Being forced to all at one. All, right you're. Talking about. With. The art used to support the independence out there. You know the is an. Didn't go out, then do all the things that Hollywood says. You've got to do to succeed. I used to help the struggling artist out there. Just talk about all these superheroes Superhero. You guys are the prom. Eileen reviewing bad movies, instead of helping these poor artist out over here, it was wrong with well. You know we agree. Morning I got together I Martin. Wanted actually got a mind like you know man. It's refreshing to sit back and. Why Son does not odd as studio bullshit. Say No sir. You're right. So today. I went out there and a gun the op-ed. Settlement Hammock in a saw this movie sometimes, what is it sometimes always never sometimes always never. Tell. You folks that you. You're not going to hear about this movie, I'm going to be honest with you if it's you be something that you see scrolling on Youtube are you just run into by accident? You know something net. A lot of people haven't heard about. Allow people not going. Go see as the sad thing to say about this film. Whether we like it or not, is just that somebody homework, stop and these days especially doing this corona times people just not going to see it, but. Let's not talk about the movie. They're ban. Let's see if we can actually get some people to go out there and see this movie. That is if it is indeed a good film. And that's what we're going to tell you. Let's go look at this trailer for sometimes always never, and we'll be right back with our review. Whenever you make a decision. Whatever you choose. There's another universe somewhere. You made the opposite choice I can't remember way set to meet now. See. There are mysteries. You'd like this. It's like scrabble any with pick princesses. What's the pig princess? Left to make this. Work on, we'll come back and we'll. Talk Tim bring a toothbrush which you want. Cyberman or All X is missing episodes time. All we ever talked about was shape I'm. Thinking about justice scores very high problem. Fussy making this a bit more interested. Away jet. Chicks. Russian peasant. You Hustle. Hustle him a smashed. Goes. The going to look at the body one the might be on Michael and you. Two hundred quid when you put it like thoughts. 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An interesting thing that I found out about this movie when I was looking some stuff up on is the director name's Karl Hunter. Does that ring a bell. No it doesn't. mean the. But do you remember the ninety s early nineties when there was a new? Like new Britpop invasion now going on, yeah, do do you remember saw groovy train? From the Far Karma come on come on. Come on, get on Net groovy train. That sounds familiar. You recognize if you've heard what the instruments. Ruby. Train. That's why didn't talk about God thirty years later? I Yeah groovy train May. Did on that groupie train yet is that's a band called the farm. The basis for that ban is the director. Okay for this movie right here. Not that makes any big differences, just the interesting thing, but. Sam Riley In a bill nine. Bill, Bill Nye Hiya been night, he they. You can probably tell by the trailer, but it's someone up without telling you too much. They're sort of a strange the way you know they. They've kind of grown apart over the uses. Stay friendly, but. The thing that's going on with them is that. Sam Riley's character. His older brothers missing Bill Nye. He's son. just ran away from home one day in. They never saw him again. You ran away as a kid and they never saw him again so now it's about them trying to still find out if this guy is out there through the hilarious misadventures of despondent son duo right here, it's also important to know that. He ran away because he got mad. Over game of scrabble squirrel yet scrambled. scrabble plays a lot throughout this movie it does it does, and this is so. Look this so artistic? When I saw the trailer. See all the trailer, but I did see some of it. At first, I thought that this was just a cheap as move fun because I'm like Damn. That's an obvious Greece screen on a fake as road right, the can do better the net that's an. That's the artistic choice. That's intentional. Actually do the like a profile of the car driving down. The street is actually cutouts and all this stuff so. Mary Wes Anderson A. That's a great way of putting it. Some people might look at it as oh. Wow, that's that's pretty cute, and that's pretty artistic. Imagine if some people might say well, that's just fucking. Pretend pretentious, but you know that that. That threshold that you would have for movie like this. It's it is artsy. To the point where? You don't know what time is taking place in, but in is taking place in a time where people cell phones in CDs. They place down. But the whole art, aesthetic of the film is sixties. Kit. Sixties pop to early Seventies Kitsch I love that I know you do that's why. When I saw it, I was like. You might take a fancy. Fancy was tickled. I love. A love is movie man as far as the art direction goes. I love the lighting always. You can tell that they always strategically put a spotlight certain areas even when his own houses like this. You know everything in the movie. The Color Palette I love man You know everything is bright and colorful, but also everything is again. Has that sort of the fifties and sixties and seventies POPs color scheme that's happening in their even have kitchen throwbacks to the seventies a label. Maker plays a big role in this. I like that like that a lot But also like that they have. The characters in here, the movies very very low key. We'll say deep deadpan, but very little rail low key, yeah! There's never ever. Again this appeals to me. Just like with the last movie that I was talking about Greyhound. This seems to go against those conventions and tropes that she would see in dramas and and e an are drama. These like this everybody's low key things that would happen. Would you think they'd be big emotional? Blow ups then, not man. Talk it through. Yeah, yeah, it's. It's weird because you do expect. It's almost like okay, here comes. It didn't happen, but. I was kind of known that I kind Kinda liked that people are just hanging back into talk and shit out. Even if they're being smart asses about it, sure nobody gets to upset. Nobody's yelling at each other. The whole time I appreciate that one it. Helps with the teenagers in here man day, not brats. Boy So refreshing Oh. Somebody knows that all kids aren't assholes. Yeah, and I'll sit here. We go because the first time we introduced to. Samrat characters son in this thinking, he's got the fucking. Brad home got those fabulous gloves and Luke. PODCAST keys playing a video game. He's going to be you know he's GonNa. Do that thing when people talk to him going to leave me alone, the playing video games and now they went against that he might have start like that just a little bit of for a little bit because. GRANDDAD is there to say hey. I'm sleeping in your bed like Oh. Right. Yeah he's like okay. Because easily expect mold as a clown. Way Up this. Isn't a bit tonight. I'm sorry. Lewis Healy's the name of the kid that plays a role right there. They actually do some great bonding with GRANDPA and grandson in here. Need. Not done that way where they gotta go through a bunch of fighting in pushing and pulling and fuck your GRANDPA. You don't know me all the kind of bullshit. They. For movie that seems so. Again So artsy to the point that it would seem almost kind of fake. I kind of found the relationships here to a little more real than I find him in other films. It's got that aren't aesthetic and yet the characters don't go that way to where they're become cartoons. They're always. They're always real enough. Like, whatever's around them can have? That color scheme can can drop into cut out, but everything else stays in a world that we can feel. Yeah, no, definitely definitely you know I. GotTa tell you. We used to watch. Our films like this, especially independent from Britain a lot in the nineties. Yeah, you remember those yeah. Go to the morning screenings of this. Yeah, sometimes every now and then they would do a evening screening of these movies when. Streaming and home home video wasn't the wasn't like. It is right now, right? I just have a sort of nostalgia thing going on I kinda I'm a little biased I. Miss Movies like this man. Yeah exactly! Yeah, yeah, I. I. Like okay, I get it. They don't make any more and I know they're not profitable. But it's always. Nice does have something different. It really is even though it's familiar. I. Got A confession to make to you. Martin I forgot about this movie until today. Because I was going to wash, we were talking about like well, since not come into this Friday I'll watch and. I I. Didn't I didn't think about into the last minute. I gotTa Watch this movie, so that's why I brought my pen and went out to the back and lay down and watched it but I. You know I'll watch some of this. Probably get it in. I'll let you just take the rest of it, but once I was into an like. Man I'm actually having enjoyable moment when this. Having a real nice time with this, not think that. If I can get real. Didn't have I. IF I can get real. Sinophile on you right now. you've got most sound like again. Some pretend shit that I'm talking. But there are some movies where they do certain things and they want that message to be out there. And sometimes you look at a moving take that thing away from me and I. I looked at this and I said. No one's saying. Maybe I don't know but. I. Haven't read on his movie. I heard about saying anything like this, but I was like mean. I. Get the feeling that they're putting things out that lady's messages out. They heavy for people. Because once you get the gist of the movie and what's happening with? Main two characters. you start to think like. Why did they choose other than just to be artsy? Why they choose the sixties and seventies aesthetic the to happen with this and what you learn, what's happening with these characters? It's like well you know I. Mean maybe they're saying something and just not being really blatant with it, you know maybe chose not for the looks, but I mean he's took care to the kind of stuck in time with each other right because it, because I mean this tension between them or at least Sam Riley. He seems put out with his dad, the entire time and bill naive. He's just a charming dude. He really. All the way through to the point you like. I don't understand why you mad at him. What is it? They can't what? Why are you still feel like this? But it is a they are stuck in time. Yeah, there's this ton stuck with them from back in a certain day in in I. Don't know when this movie takes place. They have cell phones. I mean, but this could have been early. Two thousand I don't know. Could have been late nine two thousand nine, but you know I time period it is, but it seems like well. You know maybe chose period because everything looks like is in the sixties, not just with these people here it's like the houses in the neighborhood of colored pink and maybe. England. Look like this. Anytime, you leave London everything else. Still. I'd never progressed. But I really did enjoy this man. It's not a long review because this is a new, no small art film and it's a very small movie it is. But. It reminds me of those movies that Arsov back in the day also where I said okay. Movies they can do a lot with a low budget man I can tell you the budget on his movies probably low. But, it's funny what you can do. When you make a few colors pop, you do get creative with your lighting, and you create a story that look it might not be fair everybody, but it's it's Y-, these I can guarantee these characters. You will like bill, Nye! He is such a slick motherfucking you I mean. You can't help but like him. When it was I going I was like. All right well. There's a little bit slower than I. Thought I. Don't know where it's GonNa go, but when he gets that end, and has that scrabble game I was I was totally hooked from that. Point Yeah. The whole way he plays that. was fantastic. Does that Oh did? Did I win? I'm sorry I don't know he's playing scrabble with the couple. Yeah, it almost feels like a road trip movie, but they're not really going anywhere in the beginning of the movie. They go somewhere, but that's about it. Yeah, yeah, it's a road trip movie. That's only. Partially about the road trip. Yeah. I'm not trying to convince people to watch this unless you know you. Look, you can look at this trailer automatically whether this is for you would not, if you, if you lean towards something like this, all is only a matter of watching and seeing if it's a bad movie or not. But if you are in the movies like this, and you know smaller films, more art films more, you know more films where they it is very heavy in style small budgets. I think this is worth a look. I I enjoyed this a lot man I mean the only thing is agree with. Do it probably took just a little while to start and even then at the beginning I thought that they would be in just a little too weird. I thought some some things seemed forced. They were little, were little funny, but only because the people that were doing these things Bill Knight. He's just funny man like when he went to the ice cream truck is like alright. This is funny, but if y'all keep this kind of weird shit, going on that you know, movie starts if it's non take off right away that fear of am about to lose ninety minutes of my life. Yeah Yeah. But, it didn't take. It didn't take long at all once Sam Riley comes into the picture. If you recognize Sam Riley. It's probably probably recognize him as the bird dude from. Malefic into something. That's right. That's right. It was also anybody who knows joy division. He was in a joy division movie guy named Ian Somebody. who was lead singer Joy Division and Prejudice and zombies. That's right. That was him I was in. Yeah. That's the Ian Curtis doesn't check it out. Check it out a highly. Do highly recommend If. You are of that Ilk. I give it a give it a matinee because I will say this somebody who likes it It's appealing to what I like and he's kind of movies. You know these kind of films today. Do you really really really really need to go the theater to see them? Unless you go into one of those I tell you how you should do and nobody's doing. It'd be great for people who like these kinds of movies that theater where they served dinner. Are you know Nice Drinks? Don't do this why you say. Pandemic. Acid after all this. Okay wasn't in that perfect world without the pandemic. Yes. When it was really nice art theaters where they have higher end food and you're to get drinks afterwards. My wife and I would have gone to see something like this because she don't want to see all that big crazy superhero Bush watch this. No, no, she didn't know she probably would like to, but we have gone out ahead drank. She would have been like when I'm glad. At least there's some artistic married to this, and not all the bullshit, but derailing need to see. At a theater knows specially right now as you see. Yeah, that I felt the same way for all the things I. Love about this and it would be a matinee it. There's nothing about that warrants going to a theater unless you just made a special night. You're have special night plan at thought well. We'll throw this into because it's. It's very short. I think it's in less than ninety minutes. It's pretty straight up ninety nine minutes. Yeah. Get Mad Matinee, but again no, you have to rush out and the thing is going to be on video very soon. Anyway, I'm pretty sure. Give it a couple of weeks of the beach somewhere. Yeah Yeah. I liked it I liked it. Oh. Let's see I reign. REWARM emailed, and we're Outta here and we being for while. Actually the few things we did. We did some good this evening. Are you. GonNa Watch Greyhound. At this point. Still have to you know you'll. Probably you know what check email right now. If you got it. You said the email off today. Yes, if you got, people will be right back on on email and we'll see you in a little bit right after this. Right. let's see. Let's see what we got here. While Mars chicken is e mail I'm checking my email. Welcome Martin. I told I told you the answer pretty quickly. Hey, if you watch right now, we can wait and you can review it after the. SEE HERE! Mr Yeahs man says call Giancarlo. ESPOSITO is in a video game. Far Cross six. Rumor has it that he might be a villain in far cry six. Plan what Gus Frei. Doing your thing as long as he. These is what here's. What does it would Giancarlo Esposito for me man? Is like no matter. What billy he's playing. He's always got. Those guys didn't glasses on the glasses. The suits the suit. He's always fastidious. Should I think even? Even men Lori, was he? Always got those glasses man. let me see here. We were talking about people having a backlash Hamilton. On this is what they're talking about. Greetings Professor S. Will, you gotta Angola you probably man but you. You. Let a professor and. Sit Let me. Give them up the floor. I don't want to get. You upset. said it was fun. Because you can quit. You'd even think about it, but you didn't miss a beat. fucked. You profess the ask. I say fuck you. Man, the sentiment was behind it. It's it. It was implying I it was the name flexing was. said if I had to make you mad. Put that out there and it was worth again. That's that'd be laughing man. Now we'll get all kinds of pictures gave Coleman professor. A now. It wasn't even a s S. it was as easy professor I S. Oh man between gorilla. Came Eli Chris Tucker. Looking for your sweet and Sour Chicken ads. A. Oh, man uses say some system. Just crack me a man. Greatest professor. Believe the article. Below mainline U s to some of the objections to Hamilton. Feel free to peruse at your pleasure. Keep in mind, Karna Brown who sent that email I am not against the people that don't like Hamilton I know that there are some people who won't like not Airbus on like everything all right. You know so. I understand that. So I'm not making fun of anybody at all on new to Hamilton, I love it, but definitely not going to be one of these newbies like you don't like Hamilton. How stupid are you are Philistine Yeah I'm not going to be. I'm not going to be going to that guy. If you're talking about the thing with. Slavery. I'll tell you that I looked at. It felt like it was something that felt a little outdated when it came up, but I definitely didn't take away from. From the movie for me. Puerto Rico's uprising in the instrumental in instrumentalization of Windmill Miranda. Okay, it's not what the hell's gone. Dan when you know you've got famous. Got Big. People just find hand kind of way to like. Hey, they're right and think pieces about me. Yeah, yeah, you just make this to start making up shit about you. I'm an industry now. I gotta read this man. The fuck mood. When Linda Will Miranda 'cause the hurricane. I had to read. This is happening with that, but. Anyway. Donate a shit ton of money to Puerto Rican. Puerto Rico relief diddy. Okay. I don't know I i. don't Know Me. Hey like I said. Pam I understand it. You know I would I would say this. If, you generally don't like it. That's one thing, but if I get the feeling that somebody's liking it because they hipster shit, everybody else likes it. then. That's when I would be like come on, man, stop the bullshit. Because you know, there's people out there like that let me see. A couple more here than we'd be on way. Let me, see here. I think we might. That might be it Devante? Brown has a question. Hello want to ask Martin. What he thought so far the final season of agents of shield. He says I quite enjoy it so far. They're having fun with time travel, even addressing racism and accidentally being relevant. And they also we've been in elements from agent Carter as well, which was very underrated I was hoping that you may talk about it weekly as a way to add segments to clip out for the site, since the show has a dedicated fan base, and hopefully core after joined the ghost rider episodes you able to watch. Some of the show are more of the show now. Cory. Core can have on segment where I talk about this show that you watch every week. You know what if I man I have offered you like a show segment? I mean I don't to offer you, but if you want if you want something. Yeah, like you came in and told me like I. Want Segment where I can talk about. Keep people updated with. This particular show if I felt like enough, people want to see it then. Yeah, really yeah. There was something that you want to talk about I mean I don't want to dedicate something because one person say hey I want to see this because. You know I'd rather. It'd be something that people are. I guess in large viewership are going to pursue. I can't imagine something that a large viewership is watching that you wouldn't just watch yourself. I. Let you talk about it I'd ask questions. Okay, yeah, I'm pretty good at. You might not think so but I can. Sit back and leg if you if I would just ask that, it'd be prepared and organized. That's all you know I. I do strongly. That's the one thing I do very strongly believe in your that segments need to be prepared because. I've seen it too many times whether people think it doesn't happen to not seem too many times unless it is really a very casual conversation show where things if you don't if you're not. If you're talking about a critique, you're not prepared and don't have stuff you know somewhat organized. It can go all over the place. So I would I would love to see if What you have and you want to do something like that. Okay now you got any ideas. Not? I'm actually not even watching all that much. TV, however, I did yesterday happened to get caught up on agents of shield. I didn't realize how many episodes I was by. Was it devante Brown yes, yeah, he's right about those recent episodes they they've been fun. They've been. They've been travelling in time. The fifties in the seventies and they've been exploring racism quite a bit more than most shows do. When the season when this season started, it's it's weird. Season Seven. Yeah, and this is the final season, but those last three seasons have all started where I was like feeling like I. Don't know man I feel like this show is losing it or maybe I'm just over it and I just stuck around a habit, and then around episode, three or four I'm I turned around with like Oh. No I'm I'm actually digging this a lot now and having watched three episodes back to back yesterday on my. Back to looking forward to this show. When he gets, you just count the. Don't let me do the talker. You got boss. Early he's talking straight out of thirties moving when they get hand, you count Dot doughy amongst. A robot. These guys. Boys lost. I'm ascension chronic com from the planet CRONICA too. Good for you. Now beat it. Before we make you freaks regret the born. Chronic cons are not for okay. really hope he's robot actually. Realize that he's not that that the guy who is a robot is about takeover. Acts like a robot. Bomb on? Warning you. Last chance PAL. Take A boy's. Get you what I'll tell you the thing that. Made me now. What's? The alien some. He's changing right now. The thing that. Made me not watch. Agents of shield is like they were doing the same thing. They would do on Netflix where they weren't acknowledging the Big Universe to the point where it just seemed like it didn't even make sense. No, no, they acknowledge a bigger universe all the time they've had nick fury guest star on on some episodes, but that was early on because that's been the biggest complaint throughout Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, that was early on and then. Post that I mean even in the most recent episode award winning most recent episodes Colson talked about how somebody was like well. You know you're dying. Is What inspired the avengers in the first place, so there is some acknowledgment, but they don't. They don't mess with them. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about like. They like a lot of people. I've heard complaints with. A big part of it, but like the snap they don't refer to anything. No, yeah, you know people like to see the doesn't people have actually said at this point where? They don't acknowledge some the big events so much that people even wondering. Is this like an alternate dimension? I mean it really is its own thing when. I'm not even thinking about the movies. Yeah. But that's one of the things always bothered me, and that's why I could never get into it, but you know I don't know. But, yeah, man I hear that it's fun makes me WanNa Watch it, but I'm also intimidated about how many shows of course now seven seasons and it's a network show, so there's a lot of episodes. Yeah, yeah I don't know if I can actually get into so much going on, but there you go, so be talk about it if you want everyone a segment where you want to come in and talk about it a little bit I mean the show is fine, but. The whole show. Well, you know what's out there Martin okay, all right I own now you'll be extended the offer. Am I gonNA. Be Less more. Let me, see let me see I. Think it was going to say there's one last one but I think this idea. Because all the emails of people recommending bad movie reviews. So. Let me see. I'm going to do it, and you hate me for doing it, but I'm gonNA show you Lorenzo's idea for new show. You go let's see. Renzo has a show for a new. Idea for a new show. Show, for new, ideas. The see! Are you ready? Monitor all right? This is. The premier of Lorenzo's big idea for a new twist show. Coleman in I had sex with the vacuums gone on Hulu. As obviously core right, they're very happy. With vacuum down. They don't WanNa. You don't want to give everything away at this point in. The title though you only do the backing you, might you know just bringing pleasure, look into. Because teeth rated. At least got the headline, right? There you go by Lorenzo Shelly. Lorenzo tell you what man you send me there right there. Don't even change anything. Just send me this and make sure that this goes actually to Hulu. Well. I've got connections. We are ready to producing the show over at a Netflix. See back in present that to them over there. I just don't want to overwhelm them. What all these great ideas? Want. I'm having a good. Taking me back Lorenzo I can tell you then. Right everybody. See here when we about closer. As, we close, that, are just ask you this. Martin Babylon five says. Do you remember Shit? I know it is a show I never really watched it okay I was good enough for him I think. Right everybody! That is it thank you so much. Remember. Subscribe, please, also we have. The bad movie reviews for you to vote on Godzilla jaw. Spahn Wild West you gave scriptures, so we'll be putting up the poll. On our INSTAGRAM, also on our facebook for you to go in and vote on. 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