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138 - Sticky Hair Monster

Secular Buddhism

28:00 min | 5 months ago

138 - Sticky Hair Monster

"Hello, and welcome to another episode of the secular Buddhism podcast. This is episode number one, hundred and thirty eight I am your host, Noah Rochetta, and today I'm going to talk about sticky hair monster and the battle against our thoughts and emotions. Keep in mind you don't need to use what you from Buddhism to be a Buddhist. You can use what you learn to be a better whatever you already are. If you're new to the podcast episodes, one through five are a good place to start to get an intro to all of the key concepts ideas and teachings or you can visit secular dot com and click on start here. If, you're looking for an online community to practice with and interact with consider becoming a supporter of the podcast by visiting secular Buddhism dot, com and clicking on the top link. The says join our online community on Patriot on and something new to the community. We are now using discord and the discord APP and platform allows us to engage in a much more efficient way. We have chats around different topics, podcast episodes, and all things related to Buddhism life in general. So if you're looking for a community. Join us. there. Now let's get started with the podcast episode. So in the last podcast episode, the Zenko on shared is called Joe Shoes. Mu. And I want to share a couple of thoughts about this. The the Cohen itself goes like this Joe Shoe was a famous Chinese and master who lived in Joe Shoe the province from which he took his name one day a troubled monk approached him intending to ask the master for guidance a dog walked by the monk asked Joe Shoe has that dog a Buddha nature or not? The monk had barely completed as question when Josue shouted Mu. So I want to share some thoughts and he starts come from the Book Zenko on's, and this is a book written by Gyo May Kubo say the of all the Cohen's Joe. Shoes Mu is the most famous. It's extremely popular with Zen Masters who frequently assign it to novices if the student tens properly to business mu comes to resemble a hot iron ball stuck in his throat, he can either swallow it nor spit out the importance of shoes mu is it's succinct one syllable revelation of Buddhism. So little background here, and and and again, all of these thoughts come in from the book Zen Cohen's Baio Make Kubo say. He says, Mu, is the negative symbol in Chinese meaning not or no thing Mu. Is also a basic concept in oriental philosophy. There is a relative mu and an absolute mu, the relative mu and Chinese characters is the opposite of you. The letter you which means is the absolute mu of Zen Buddhism transcends is and is not in order to understand this Cohen. It is necessary to be aware of this distinction when the monk asked, Shoshu has that Dog Abboud nature not he was asking not only from the standpoint of his own troubled mind. But from the Basic Buddhist teaching that all beings have Buddha Nature Joe shoe realized this his Mu as an answer was a blow aimed at breaking or untying the monks attachment to that teaching. The essence of Buddha's teaching is non attachment. All human troubles and sufferings without exception are due to attachment even attachment to the idea of non attachment is attachment. Joe Shoe wanted the monk to transcend the relative world transcend the teachings, Transcend Mu, transcend Buddhism, and gain the free and independent world of enlightenment. Satori or enlightenment is this new dimension or perspective in life ordinary human life has always attached to the relative the is and the is not good and bad right and wrong. But life itself is constantly changing the condition of society changes right and wrong often changes. Every situation is different according to time and place. So static concepts are not appropriate to life this thus mu is crucial offers no surface upon which the intellect can fasten. The word mu must be experienced as the world of. Mu. So those are the thoughts from the book Zen Cohen's Baio Make Kubo say regarding the specific Cohen Joe Shoes Mu. And I I wanted to share this. Cohen because as the book mentions, it's most popular, perhaps the most famous of the Cohen's. But to have a little bit of background, you need to understand the answer. So essentially, what's happening here is you have a teacher who's being asked a question by a student by a novice monk and the question is so out of place because. You know the Buddhist teaching of Buddha nature is that all beings have buddha nature. So it's like someone coming law coming along and asking a very obvious question which he should know the answer to according to the teaching that all beings have Buddha nature. The answer to the question does a dog have Buddha nature is obviously yes. But josue knew that he was asking this question that should be obvious. So instead of giving the obvious answer, he gave the answer that the monk was not expecting by shouting Moo or no, or no thing. And in the tradition of Cohen's and in the tradition of Zan, this is kind of the shock and all approach the shock and awe is that that's not what I was expecting. So here you have this novice monk asking a question, get an answer that he's not expecting. And it leaves him confused and that's the exact state that Cohen's and oftentimes Zen in general want to leave you in because it's trying to break you free of the conceptualization 's that you're making in your own mind. So if I know the obvious answer is yes and I'm immediately the hearing shouting that the answer is no. What that does is at least me thinking wait a second but I, thought you know I I'm guessing that that's exactly what the monk did right away he was like wait but but you know and trying to recall but this teaching says this, and that's exactly what the the master would want to leave you. Very confused for a moment because in that confusion, you transcend the world of is or isn't To me, it's almost a way of saying. Let's entertain the question again, it was even an appropriate question. What is a was it a relevant? Because if it's not what benefit does it give you if if I were to answer the question for you and I think that's what the the master is in hoping to do here he's not answering the question. While he is answering the question with your not expecting, which is the only thing you can do to make someone really start to think and I would suppose that maybe this monk with time could walk away and realize, okay we'll that was dumb to ask him that because his answer doesn't matter what if the answer is now would if the answer is yes. So what what does that say about you and your Buddha nature I think that's along the lines that this Cohen was trying to go about at least that's how it it makes sense to me. So I like to think of this one and apply it to. My Day to day life you know the answers that we often seek to find about life are you could you could almost say it's silly questions. And I've experienced this firsthand right going through a faith crisis and then becoming a seeker and looking for another world view that might make more sense when you're on that path of seeking and you're looking for answers to life's big questions. Buddhism comes along and it does this. It gives you the answer Mu, which is to say you're not GonNa get the answer that you wanted and in not having the answer that you wanted you're only left with one option. Let's entertain the question. Where did the question come from? Does that question even matter what would happen if you did answer the question you know then what and I think that's what this Cohen does. It immediately brings you back to wait. Let me let me think about that question a little bit more. So, that is the Cohen Joe. Shoes Mu Hopefully, this is a co on that made you kind of think and will you'll remember this and future future instances where questions come to mind You can assign a little bit more value to the question a little bit less value to the answer and that to me is Buddhism in a nutshell it's all about the questions not so much about the answers. Okay. So with that said, I do want to share a couple of thoughts about a story old Buddhist story and I'm GONNA call this sticky hair monster I. Think the original story is called Prince. Five weapons. And I might be wrong but I, think this comes from the stories or tales I can't remember I came across it a long time ago. But I came across it again in a book called Buddha at bedtime. So, in the Book let me make sure your Buddha at bedtime. It has a lot of little stories and I I've been reading these stories for years. Now to my kids at night I went through a phase where every night we would read one. It's been a while since I've read one but one of the stories that really stuck to me is the story of. Sticky. Hair, sticky hairy monster, and it's become kind of a fun story that I revisit and play the game often with my youngest daughter who's four and we play this game and sticky monster, and she's trying to escape from sticky monster but I think there's a really valuable lesson in the story. So I want to share the story with you. This comes directly from the book Buddha Bedtime. And the story goes like this. It was a beautiful sunny afternoon when a boat. Prince Hector came from overseas into the harbor and before the young Prince left the vessel. The captain warned Him Your Highness while you have been away training to be a warrior, an evil monster called sticky hair has come to live in the forest. So I advise you not to take that route to the palace instead go the long way home around the mountains. Thank you for your advice replied hector but I'll be fine I. WanNa get home before sunset. And I have all my weapons I need them after all he thought I'm a trained warrior. I'm not afraid of a silly old monster and the young prince started a strode boldly on into the woods. Just as prince actor was beginning to think that the monster didn't exist he reached to clearing in the forest and there stood the most gigantic ugly creature. He had ever seen the monster was as big as a house and completely covered in matted hair. He looked like a living breathing very horrible haystack. The creature had a huge head and he stared at the prince with is as big as dinner plates too big Orange Tusk stuck out of his enormous mouth and his teeth were green and revolting his belly was big. And round like a beach ball and covered in large Pale orange spots, gir-. Sticky hair. What do you think you're doing in? My would little man you look like a tasty morsel and I'm going to eat you for dinner I'm not afraid of you you horrible old monster replied Hector I'm a warrior. I can easily defeat you with my sword I. Dare you to fight me swiftly as the wind the prince leaped forward and thrust his sword at the monster. But to his surprise, it just stuck to the creatures sticky hair. So the Prince left his sword there quickly rolled out of the way got to his feet and grabbed his bow. he shot Arrow after Arrow at the monster but like the sword, each one just became tangled in his sticky hair the prince was astonished ha ha ha boom sticky hair. You're a very funny little man. You'll never beat me then he shook himself from his ugly head down to his big smelly toes and all the princes Eros dropped down to the ground hector now had only his. Club left for protection. So he swung it at the at sticky hair with all his might, but it too became caught in the monsters hair and was pulled from the prince's strong grip. I'm not defeated yet. He shouted my weapons may be useless but I'm young and strong and I'll fight you with my fists. He cried as he ran and leapt on the monster and got firmly stuck. Even now as Prince Hector dangled from the creatures sticky hair, he continued to act fearlessly so much so that the monster started to wonder exactly what gave him such courage why are you not afraid of me little man I could gobble you up and a snap and a crack. He threatened fiercely still hanging from the monsters tangled hair hector was busy thinking about what to do next all of a sudden it came to him. He realized that he would have to use his brains to outwit the creature instead of his weapons. So he shouted up to sticky hair. I'll tell you. I am not afraid of you. My skin is coated in poison. So if you eat me, you'll die I dare you to eat me sticky hair didn't believe hector first but the more the prince insisted the more worried the monster became I'd like to eat him but I can't risk getting poisoned. He muttered reluctantly he pulled the prince from his matted coat and set him on the ground unharmed well, fearless little man you've. You've convinced me. You're telling the truth and I don't WanNa die so I suppose I'll have to let you go. He said grudgingly. Hector was delighted not only had he did the monster and saved his own life but he had also learned an important lesson that the most powerful defense had been inside him all along his own intelligence, not his strength and not his weapons. Looking up into the monster's big is the young prince said. I'm very grateful to use sticky hair, not just for releasing me but also for teaching me that I don't have to fight to be brave strong and clever. Would you like to know my secret? If you promise not to eat me, I'll tell you as a reward for sparing my life surprised sticky hair agreed although the monster had never been defeated until that day he had always been frightened of people. In fact, he had only attacked people to stop them from attacking him but now the creature was to learn to be fearless like hector. So he let the young. Prince become his teacher and friend and the strangest thing happened the more sticky hair learned how to use his brain the less he felt the need to harm others using his intelligence brought the creature great happiness, and gradually he was transformed from scary lonely monster into a friendly forest giant Prince. Hector, let all the local people know that the monster had completely changed and gradually they became his trusted friends bringing him food and living with him in peace and harmony, and the new eager to please sticky hair repaid their kindness by protecting them and guiding travelers safely through the forest. And then the book goes on to say, sometimes, it feels like there's no option. But to fight our way out of the difficult situation, a wise person knows that it's their intelligence, not their physical strength that will help them to win in the end. So. That's the version from the children's book Buddha Bedtime. The original story the way it was it's been shared and passed down the story of the print of Prince Five. Weapons. Is Essentially, stadium that The Of all the weapons you can possess the one that is more powerful than all the others is the mind and that's the old story of how Prince five weapons didn't kill sticky hair but instead taught him the ways of peace and enlightenment and their other little minor variations of the story So all in all the story of sticky monster for me has been a fun way to convey this concept to my kids that the moral of the story is that often the only way to win a fight is by not fighting. It's by using your your brain, your intelligence, and to me this somewhat echoes a little bit from the last podcast episode the idea of nothing being something oftentimes by doing nothing we are doing something. I think that in our culture were. Of the mindset of conquering of overcoming, and sometimes we approached Buddhism in this very same way it's like we're going to overcome the EGO and we're going to conquer are. The nece conquer are negative attributes, my thoughts and feelings and emotions that I don't like I'm going to force them out away from me. I'm going to win over them. And when we do that, we're setting ourselves up for the same mistake that the prince and sticky monster had which is sticky monster can't be beat. You can approach sticky monster with all the weapons you have, and the result is going to be the same they're going to get stuck in a doesn't do anything to this big monster. So, the harder that you try the harder harder that you fight. The it doesn't do anything you're still going to fail. But. What happens when we approached the situation from rather than overcoming with the understand with the with the attitude of trying to understand and trying to befriend, and this reminds me of the quote Pame. A show Dron says meditation practice isn't about trying to throw ourselves away and become something better. It's about befriending who already are. And I encounter this quite a bit in my interactions with podcast listeners and supporters who reach out and want to discuss specific situations or stances that they're going through in their lives and encounter this concept quite a bit with anger for example, where somebody is experiencing a set of circumstances causes and conditions that they're experiencing anger in their life and often they're angry at the fact that they're angry. Or you know if you're upset, you might be upset if you're not at peace and just kind of this interesting place to be because the only real piece that we can have comes when were at peace with the fact that we're not at peace and the reason that works is because life is always changing again like the Tetris game analogy. There's a new piece on the horizon every time the new piece shows up it's a whole new game. You're always plane the new game. And, that's exactly how life works. Life is always changing. You're always dealing with something new today it might be the loss of a job or the loss of a loved one or the flat tire on the road or the CO worker that is annoying you or you might be dealing with a really good job and you're happy with this or. You're dealing with a worldwide pandemic or whatever it is. Right it's it's it's always changing. And and the past the fact that it's always changing means you always get to revisit this and say, okay now, how do I play the game? And, and you can literally do this minute by minute because every minute life has changed and all it takes his awareness to see that. So, when were angry at the fact that we're angry? Were compound in the situation anger is natural and if I'm experiencing anger and I'm okay with the fact that I'm experiencing anger then I haven't there's no problem. Sure angry but there's no problem with being angry. So life is good I'm a piece if I and before I, know it the causes and conditions of the anger might be gone and then anger's gone and I'm okay that I'm not angry. So again I am a piece at peace when I'm angry I'm a piece when I'm not angry and that to me is at the heart of what this story of sticky monsters trying to get at its the The twist I think in the story is that we are sticky monster or sticky monster, his US right I think Robert Wright talks about this in his book why Buddhism is true he talks about the modules of the mind and the concept of the modules of the mind is the understanding that I have many different aspects of me that make me me. There's the me that is in the role of of apparent of a dad of a brother of a of a son of a podcast of all the things that I do that make me these are the various modules of the mind. And within these modules, there are the thoughts and the feelings and the emotions and the memories. These are what what Buddhism we would call the five SCON-. Does right the different things that make you you and yet you're not any of them. But when I understand that about myself if I realized that I'm experiencing anger. It's something that I'm experiencing but I'm also the observer of the experience and I'm also the one that that feels I like this or I don't like this and all of that's okay. If just observe it. And what it leaves me with this this important understanding that just like with sticky monster the monster is the monster can't change the fact that it's ugly that a stinks that it's hair is sticky are all the things that are unpleasant about it. But what I can change as when I understand that this thing isn't going away and I can't fight it away I'm left with one option. I can befriend it and try to understand it and all of this happens by using the weapon of the mind. Not The traditional weapons you would think of as weapons, and that's what happens in that story. So to me the moral of the story. Is that I am the prince, but I am also sticky monster certain parts of my mind when I'm experiencing anger. There it is. That's the big sticky monster. I'm angry and I don't like that I'm angry will there I am I'm fighting the thing that I cannot win now but if I mckay that I'm angry now I'm piece again and there's the two things as the prince and they're sticky monster there's The observer of. The anger am experiencing and there's the anger I'm experiencing, and those are the two things they can sit there side by side perfectly apiece in content because there's nothing wrong with being angry there's nothing wrong with sitting next to the monster there's nothing it's it's fighting the monster that creates the problem I. think it's the same with our thoughts and feelings and emotions. It's fighting my emotions being angry that I'm angry that aggravates the problem. So, that's the key takeaway for me with this specific lesson with the story of of sticky hair sticky hair monster. And I I've been working on this story for months. Now with like I said with my own kids and and we play this game called sticky monster and I'm sticky monster and they're all trying to fight me will they can never beat me and always trap them, and then I hold them and they've learned that the trick has they have to start asking me questions where are you from sticky monster? How old are you sticky monster? A feel today and as they talk to me, then I start answering their questions and I loosen the grip and then at the end of the game were sitting next to each other and they keep talking to me and that's when they can slowly they have to slowly walk away. But in the game that we play if they tried to run or they try to escape me or they try to fight me they, they don't win So I'm hoping that with time this little game and this little story will transition into a deep understanding of the nature of life with them and the relationship they have with their own thoughts and feelings emotions. And I think that's the final thought that I would wanNA share here. Is that what we're not trying to change our thoughts and feelings and emotions as we experienced them as we're experiencing them, all we're trying to do is change the relationship we have with our thoughts, feelings and emotions as we experience them. Because to me, that's the key. That's it. That's the. The difference of running and fighting sticky monster and just exerting all your energy. That's pointless. Casual Never GonNa win versus sitting and talking to sticky monster using your mind and understanding and befriending, and again to me, the twist is the recognition that I'm actually both I'm the prince and I'm sticky monster and been fighting myself this whole time, which makes the fight that much more ridiculous when I think about it that way. So That's all they have to share about that concept of sticky monster and the relationship we have to our thoughts and feelings and emotions. So. Before ending this podcast episode, I want to leave you with another Zenko on to think about And this is one that I think I've mentioned before I can't remember I'm reaching that stage where I can't remember what things I've said before and what things I haven't. But I, guess it never hurts to mention things more than once. So the Zen Koan I'd like to leave with you at the end of this podcast episode think about is called no beard. and. It goes like this. Why? Kuan complained when he saw a picture of bearded bodey Dharma why hasn't that fellow a beard? And that's it. That's the end of that Cohen. All right. I'll share my thoughts on that one in the next podcast episode as always. Thank you for listening until next time.

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Hermit Radio #53

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Hermit Radio #53

"The security in the from that standpoint. I can feel than staring things frame of you when you were born when you very very very small raw. This has been hurt radio everyone. I just wanted to take a second to tell you more about the app anchor. It's the easiest way to make a podcast. You can do from your phone or your computer. Anchor will distribute your podcast so that you don't have to on spotify apple in more you can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place. So if you're interested in starting a podcast. I highly recommend that you go over anchor. Fm dot com and. check out. How you can actually do that. Thank you for listening. Haven't i say hey everybody it's It's been a while but welcome back to her radio as you can imagine with the events taking place in the world right now. It's you know it's been hard for me to get on here and Keep doing this message. But i took a little break I had some house stuff going on and it would have been loud and it wouldn't have been good audio quality so that was part of the reason but mainly i've just been feeling like i needed to kind of draw back a little in reflect and allow myself to feel In just kind of be one with the moment with everything. That's going on as i'm sure all of you can imagine for some people. Nothing's really changed in their unaffected by what's going on and for a lot of other people the impact that these events have had on people it Can be scary. Can be confusing. Could make you angry. And all of those things are understandable. So that's what we're gonna talk about today. And what i'm hoping to do is to give you some guidance on how to process all of this how to work with maybe some fear or even some anger So that we can move through this together. I've been reminded lately of why i started doing all of this to begin with I just got interviewed by a good name gentleman by the name of brad. He's awesome guy very nice guy And he entered her. Well we had a talk on his podcast. the the coffee buzz podcast. And i'll have that up on our social media and listen to it whenever it's up It should be on spotify but all share the link and he you know. He's a fan of this podcast. That was one of the reasons he reached out to me and he was asking me about how i got to this place. You know he said when. I listen to you. I hear wisdom somebody. That's been doing this for a really long time. And as you guys now as much as it feels like that for me too. It hasn't been a super long time. It wasn't that long ago that i was driving asleep. Asleep behind the wheel and allowing my sub conscious. Mind the caveman part of me to kinda do all my daily interactions and My life has changed fundamentally since them for sure so talking to brad you know listening to him ask you know talking together and kind of sharing how i feel about certain things and how he feels about certain things. It just reminded me that. This is what i'm supposed to be doing right now. I get lost in my human heart. Because i feel pain and i feel suffering of others and sometimes it's so overwhelming i feel like i can't do anything so therefore i need to do nothing and that's not exactly the case. There still is obviously always something that you can do and this was part of what we talked about on his podcast was that we often when we like to think of things and i know this. We're getting into the welcome back already. Getting into the wu stuff when we talk about the shockers right. I and i really. That word has such taboo on it. So i You know you can use the thought process of energy centers Or even just emotional emotional connection to certain things right. So if we're talking about shocker as we're talking about how you live in your third eye or in your heart center and the difference between those two is if you're living from your third eye right or from a rational mind perspective. This is how we can differentiate the two. If you don't like the word shocker right. You're rational thinking mind if you're not connected to your heart and you see somebody walking down the street and they trip and fall you say karma you might even laugh will maybe. They deserved it. Right takes all emotion really out of it because you're just making discernment of why that individual Why that happened to that individual right now. What we know from our own lives is that when events and things like that happen to us everything has meaning in. Everything has a message but we get caught up in is that we don't necessarily do it enough for us. We do it for everyone else. We make judgments for them. We make judgments and think that they're suffering because of this right but you don't know and that's not to be mean or judgmental but you don't know what someone else's life journey has for them. You can only discern for yourself. You shouldn't judge others because of the decisions they make but what you can do and then this is where the heart center comes into place right. And if you don't like shaqra language right living from your heart means to have compassion to have understanding about why somebody would do something and if you live purely in that place the world becomes a very ugly place because you're so open and you have so much compassion you see the world as like a wall with a bunch of cracks in it in water coming out in the he keep trying to figure out like which one of these holes do. I need to plug up. Those are good analogy by ramdas right. You've only got two fingers but there's multiple holes in the wall where the water's coming out. I love this analogy. Because it's true when you think about the different things right. I mean you watch. Tv cable tv for an hour. You're going to see you know you're going to see commercials for you. Know saint jude children's cancer research center. You'll see Commercials for pizza right for animals that need your donations. Need your support right now. You know you'll see a bunch of those and every time you see something like that doesn't it pull on your heart strings or maybe you the kind of person that's like watching the new change the channel. Because you don't want to see it because deep down you know there's too much pain and you don't want it to affect you and there's nothing wrong with that you have to be aware of the balance and that's something that i'm always talking about is balanced right. Actually just wrote an article about this. E n n yang what it means. It's not just some you know eastern philosophical concept. It's so true. It's when need get away from from believing that anything is is to woo. Woo two out of the norm at this point in. Twenty twenty one anything's possible. belief systems. Really don't mean anything anymore. You can believe whatever you want to believe. But what i as do research understand. What it is you go read a book get on the internet. Do some research trying to understand these things but if you're purely living from your heart center you're in pain because you see the suffering of the world right. The starving children in africa the homeless people in your neighborhood. That are sleeping outside when it's cold and this is where i get hung up. I was at dinner with my wife last night. And we're sitting down. We're having this really good meal and across the street right in my direct site. What we were outside just to be clear so we were outside. And i can see across the street. There is homeless man selling newspapers. He was standing in front of a walgreens. I believe and he trying to hand and sell newspapers to people going in and out of the building. It instantaneously put a damper on me. Makes it hard to enjoy a good meal when you know when somebody else across the way is is you know trying to get money to survive in this is this is a common issue for me. I get stuck in my human heart and you know you start thinking like maybe i should buy him a meal. Maybe i should give them half of what i have and there's nothing wrong with doing that but what i wanna tell you right now. Is that you need. You can't save everyone. It shouldn't stop you from trying to do good but it's kind of like the analogy of being on the airplane and they tell you to put your mask on and then your kids mask on right is mean and selfish as that sounds it does have truth right. Focus on what you can actually do to make a difference. This is another thing we were talking about on on the on. brad's podcast. What can you do as an individual right. you can stand up and be an example. A peaceful example of what. Everybody else aspires to be right now. We have disorder. We have chaos. We have frustration anger. So what are the opposite of those things. And how do we do that. You can be a representation of those things in any given moment. All you have to do is choose to do it. You're going to have you need to have balance between your third eye in your heart center or between your rational thinking mind in your compassionate heart you need to have balance so what that means is that you need to have a fair understanding of how the universe works. And what goes on in it with a side of compassion. And what is. I would like to go into depth of both the sense. So let's start with the rational thinking. Mind okay so the example i used before was somebody walks in front of your trips falls. You say karma k. We say that because there is a lack of compassion you're too far up into the third versus being down into the heart center so a way to see things in the world right when you're looking at the world with a perspective of manner so much evil there's so much suffering like how could i ever make a difference. Okay let's start there in your rational thinking mind or your third eye right. What this allows you to do have an outside perspective. You're only thinking from a storytelling perspective. Where your ego. Your rational thinking mind is trying to tell you. This is how the world is. It's not a good plays and you're suffering and so is everyone else right. Okay so is back out of that. The most important thing to understand in probably to start with is understanding that everything that happens in the world in the universe happens for a reason. It's all happening as it should be happening k. And now i feel like we have to keep breaking off into forks in the road. But i promise i'll drive this thing home so but when we get to here now you have two different types of people into different thinking right if people who say well. That's you know that's bs. It's all random chaos and blah blah blah. You know these are people who typically have no spiritual preference or religious preference and you know maybe you could quote unquote calling as a. That's fine and you know that shouldn't be a negative term. As a matter of fact. I love people like that because they are going through their life experience in. Maybe someday something will happen to them. That wakes them up to something different. That's what happened to me right. I was a complete atheist just years ago and now look at me. I had experiences in things in my life. That have happened to me. The completely shook the fabric of what. I believe to be true or not true and here i am now talking to you. So those people blessed them. I love them. And it's okay to think the way that you think 'cause you know what tangible proof is very hard to come by when we're talking about things like god or a divine presence or source so i hear you if you're one of these people you gotta have the proof get it. Hopefully one of these days you'll get some proof to confirm that but even if not if nothing is organized it is all random chaos and there is nothing right. that shouldn't deviate your mind from thinking that this possibly is a controlled environment where things are happening as. They're supposed to happen. And now a scientific way to think about this would be like think about how bees pollinate flowers right or how birds fly to the south for the winter or how bears going to hibernation into winter right. Those are like clockwork schedule. Organized organized events in nature that we know for a fact happen. And it's like clockwork so it's almost as if the nature of these things is to happen in those orders. If that makes sense to you so scientifically you can prove that certain events in nature do happen because of this thing and this thing at all connects in. Make something happen right. You can't have this without this without this without this right. All these animals have to go into hibernation so that they can you know come out right all these bees to pollinate so the flowers can blossom right so thinking scientifically like that we can see some organization to the chaos. Humans are no different but they are different in the sense that they have a divine presence to them the for some parts. Most people aren't aware of it does not make it any less true. The difference is that we have an evolved consciousness that allows us to think and have the abilities and this and that and the difference again were unaware of it. We take for granted what we have but humans seal by nature. Have these little things right. were innovative. We have to constantly build things. We have anxiety which forces us to be productive. We have anger which forces us to change things. Do you see where i'm going with this. It may seem as if we're just a bunch of caveman. Runaround beaten things with sticks. But i will tell you as much as it seems the way. It is the exact opposite. I'm getting ready i. I don't know that. I've announced this but I've taken it upon myself to use my army benefits to pay for school and to go back to school So i'm going to be going and getting a history degree with teaching license. So i can be a history teacher. I love history It's always been one of my favorite subjects. Even since i was a kid and i think that in right now it's more important than ever history shows us where we've been and where we're going and that is again what the point that i'm trying to prove is that look at everything that's happened so we can look at it two ways. Look at everything that's happened in our history. That's lettuce to today. And if you want to argue that we haven't evolved. You might need to go back and read another book or two. We have evolved through through frustrating trials and error. We've succeeded at expanding our consciousness and moving forward actually faster than it's almost unbelievable how fast we have done it and it will continue to move forward regardless of your political agenda regardless of your beliefs on. Who's right who's wrong. We will continue to move unless we blow ourselves up which. I don't foresee that happening. We're going to expand our consciousness. We're going to become smarter and better. We will evolve. We will continue. I mean you can't fight this process. That is the way it is and the harder we make ourselves the harder and longer will take for us to be successful at it. So now we're taking the so. That's the rational thinking. Mind as far as you know what's going on in the world and how to deal with anger and the fear of things right but now let's go. Let's take it from a spiritual perspective right. If you believe that neo. None of that is true and it all has just random chaos and there you go but just look at history. Okay look a history. Look at where we are now versus. Then if you don't need if you don't want a spiritual take or if you don't believe in it then at least you can refer back to history and science and see what's going on okay and by looking at nature you can see how there is some order to the chaos. Okay but now. Let's go to spiritual perspective right. This is obviously where my heart lies. We have this side of us that is inherently divine. The we're for the most part in time unaware of but that is what in made me change. When i became aware of it when i accepted it to be truth and not just something that i read in books. I realized that there is truth to it but not just for me. I'm not just some mystical guru that decided to change his life. And now do this to you know the whole point of me. Doing this is to tell you that you have to nothing. I've said nothing. I've done is outside of the reach of you listening to this podcast right now. You have in you already. You just need to embrace it and accept it. When reading about in zen masters right every student is asking the master. How do i become zen-master. How do we become zen master right and most of the time the masterminds anything but occasionally this answer is said you are already is and master right in the movie the matrix what a neo need to do to become the one right. He needs to realize that he was over the one regardless of what anyone said about him regardless of what the world was telling him he decided to be it. Could you see how everything. I'm telling you right. Now is connected. It all comes back to the same place it's you you dictate reality. You decide what you do every day when you get up you decide how you want to treat people and i'll tell you what after looking at facebook and twitter for the last couple of weeks. There's lot of people who waking up in deciding to just be an asshole or jerk and it's on both sides of the political party is not just republicans and it's not just democrats but look at how we're talking to each other. Look at the things that were saying about each other. it's abysmal and it. It goes against everything that i believe in human nature. It's disappointing and it's frustrating. The people waste their talent on fighting and being negative and being destructive to our evolution versus being productive and both sides are to blame. And i don't care what anyone says. I don't i choose what i believe. I don't let other people tell me what i believe. And i don't let other people tell me what i have to do the decisions that i make. I don't if you believe in one political party or the other that's fine but bef be an example. I must've dropped the f bomb right. There be an example. Don't lower yourself to other people's levels by calling each other names and threatening people are people in politics should be ashamed of themselves right now all of them not side of the other all of them they are all behaving like children. And it's disappointing. We we've talked a lot about third world countries and the sad thing is i've seen third world countries. Behave better than this. Because they wanted. Said they're acting like children. They're threatening people and their targeting people because they're like children and that's the only way that they can get their point across by acting like children and it's disappointing. They have a hard job to do unquestionably. But that's why they have to be professionals. Their job isn't four children. They're supposed to be the best they're supposed to be the elected people that make decisions for us and yet they fail time and time again both sides when we when we think about how all of this works in a spiritual manner right. I believe everything happens for reason. Because it's all a part of the expansion of consciousness and the evolution of our people. Even the times that we're experiencing right now are part of this ever evolving process. We've seen a lot of things in the last year that are unbelievable and sometimes even so profound. It's just like. I cannot believe this just happened right but those situations are expanding your awareness okay. You're limited consciousness. The way that we live in society right now you can only really hone in on a couple of things right social media your job your food which you're watching on netflix. But if you don't ever get out of those things you have such a limited awareness in consciousness that you're not moving anywhere. We used to read books right. We used to do things to progress. Ourself to continue to further our intelligence in we've kind of come at a standstill. Maybe some of you. Are you know trying your best and you know i see you out. There is good. But we've kind of almost given up on trying to better ourselves understandably so right now in this in this world. It's it's it's hard. I get stuck into but i make every effort to canoes to continue to read books into listen to lectures and practice. My peace right now has been the ultimate test. I mean goodness in a couple of years when hopefully things will die down. I'll be true. Zen master i mean i already am zen master according to his masters but truly my peace will be perfected when things can finally die down in subside. Hopefully we all will but to deal to deal with the anger and the frustration and the fear. You can approach it from a spiritual perspective or irrational thinking perspective. Right i keep offering these two perspectives. Because i don't want you to think that i'm trying to just make you into a spiritual person astonished. Not at all. Really science and spirituality. They do meet in the middle and they cross paths. The problem is we don't have enough scientists and spiritual people that are trying to work together to make this happen. There are some out there but not enough and if they really made an effort they would see that probably. Some of the missing equations from both sides would be solved if they met together to try and answer them. So let's go. Let's dive into this right. Rational thinking perspective about what's going on in the world and how to deal with fear and anger. Okay first of all you just gotta understand. You do not have control right. This should be easy for you guys to understand because if you believe in nothing and you believe this is all random chaos. Then you certainly should believe that you don't have control over anything and realize that the more that you try to hold onto what's going on really the more that you're fighting and the harder time you're going to have that's just the truth. It sucks i get it but you gotta let go okay. Whatever's going to happen is going to happen in. Its outside of your control. So that's the fear aspect and if you need a further in-depth analysis you know. I'll i might make another episode Yeah might make another episode. Cover that more in depth but work on meditating. Okay you can do it lying down or sitting down but if you're having fear right now exiling work on meditating. Okay and what i encourage you to do is while you're sitting meditating. Just be at peace in. Remind yourself that. In this moment. While i'm sitting or laying down you're okay. You're not hurt right now. No one's coming to get you right now. The world may be on fire. But you were not be with the peace and you know. Maybe you need to do that in the morning and in the evening. But i promise you we'll bring you some comfort because our body and our chemical imbalances are little you know haywire right now in your mind works in repetitive. Thinking habits so if you're one of those people that's constantly checking twitter checking the news you're making habits in your brain that are always going to be negative so giving yourself some time to sit and get out of that is healthy right. Sit in peace. That's my offering to you. People that are not necessarily spiritual nature. Okay but this can help in science proves it if you need you know if you go on google and you can look at all kinds of different studies have been done on meditation and you can see the impact on the brain jock Doctor joe dispense spends a wrote a really wonderful book called becoming supernatural and talks a lot about the science of meditation. So i encourage you to check it out. If that's your avenue of approach okay in just realize you don't have control in whatever's going to happen is going to happen and let that be peaceful to you because now you'll have to try so hard to control things but if you're spiritual person you're spiritually inclined or religiously inclined. This is a little bit easier for you because you have faith right you believe in something that's outside of yourself and you need to rest in that as something. I'm working on is having faith having faith that were not just here to blow ourselves up. We have a mission. Were here to expand our consciousness. Were here to grow as Human beings and to be better. And there's two realities that we face right if we were if we were created really truly perfect. Then we wouldn't have these problems so either. We were made perfect in the beginning. And then we've forgotten were relearning or we were never perfect to begin with and this whole process is leading up to become better to become perfect. And that's that's the one that i think i mean really it can go either way. We just don't have enough. We don't have enough science information to to prove one or the other But right now it would seem that we're learning either way. We're learning or remembering to get back to that perfection. Right the very thing that jesus buddha any yogi in india that has been saying these things for years thousands of years rather to work on our minds and our heart to become perfect spiritual beings. They can do it so we can do it. They are an example right. And this is something. This is a profound thought. I had right think about. I like to think about jesus. Buddha in these yogis in people like martin luther king and gandhi. I like to think of them as spiritual vessels so pure that they like. A true lighthouse. Like i've said before as an example for everyone else. That's trying to get there. And i love this because think about what is it saying in any scripture right in the bible you know in in any religious practice they say that god is undescribable. There's never been anything. That's described god as a person or as a true human being. That's not that's not how it works. Everything has said that god is undescribable. It bright light that it's so hard you can't even look at it right so if that's the case it would be very difficult for us to just have an idea or an imaging are head of what god is because it is unimaginable if it's everything writes the vastness of the universe it's in the fabric of everything around us what i've come to realize that human beings need something to believe in human beings need something to look at to remind them human beings right now have a horrible memory. But what if god was in these people so that we could have an idol to look at like a big brother. Somebody that we look up to. And that's what we've done for thousands of years. These people were examples for us to follow and to keep in mind because we're forgetful creatures so if you're feeling fear you're feeling anger. Remember those people go back and think about them. What would they do in your situation. What would they say to you if they were here right now and let that bring you. Some peace is sad where we are right now but as i said in the past how do you make diamond from coal right by the immense pressure enforce that has no where else to go it has nothing else to do but to turn into this beautiful thing diamond right. That's us right now. We're feeling the immense pressure force and ultimately we will have nowhere to go and we will have no choice but to become diamonds and my job. My purpose is to the very best. I can to be an example for everybody else. That does listen to me and the does want to listen to this podcast. I'm by no means any better than anyone or any more special than anyone. Not at all. I just figured out enough things in my life to take this on as my personal mission on still working on it every day but by teaching also learn and by learning. You're also able to teach give back bring comfort to people. When ramdas was with his yoga he asked him. How do i become enlightened. Maharaja would always say something like love everyone or feed people right because being an enlightened being means that you understand. You don't have to do anything you'll have to go anywhere you don't have to. You know do yoga while eating mushrooms than having a transcendental experience. It's not about that. you are already enlightened. You just need to realize it enlightened beings what do they do they give wisdom they bring comfort they feed people because everything outside of us is part of a process. Maybe the next time you give a meal to a homeless person that changes their life because of your compassion it forces them to get up and go do something or not. Maybe it's the last meal they have before they pass away but then they pass away with that memory of you on their minds. Don't give up. Don't let yourself become so saddened with the world that you can't perform that you stop trying because we've still got a long way to go. I believe in you just like the people that came before us. They believed in us and it goes back all the way to the beginning of time we're lineage of belief a true lineage of compassion as far back as time goes there has been people who say love everyone until the truth and we can look to them when we're in times like right now. So that's my that's my dharma today or my lesson Will take a break from the series that we were doing in the presence of peace it just. It's not a good time right now. I know that sounds paradoxical because it's the presence of peace but that series was going to be about teachers in certain messages and right now I think that. I just need to do what i'm good at in. That's bringing some pieces of some compassion to everybody that listens to me. So we're gonna keep doing their Also starting this week. We're gonna have a to other shows part of this podcast so i've always told you guys that i wanted to run this. Podcast like a radio station. So what i'm hoping for my goal is that monday will be my show so like this isn't changing. What i say to you. What i bring to. You is going to be here on mondays. but then on wednesday. We're going to have an. I'm gonna pull these up for a real quick On wednesday the unapologetic impasse in. That's from my friend. A rose mapstone. She's going to be doing that Some good information in its funny. So i i would. I would tune into it. If it's something that you're interested in at least check it out and try it These are people that i'm associated with life grove. This podcast is actually become the official podcast for the organization. Life growth We we had some big things happening in the last couple last couple of months while i was away I'm now The chief operations officer for life grove. And we're doing some cool things they're still wanted to do. The podcast just had to kind of like real things in and get back on my feet as far as this particular show and then on friday You might remember the while ago. I did an interview on the sole coach. podcast Going to bring him in his show on here on friday so monday will be my show Wednesday we'll have another show of friday. We'll have another show so you're looking at three episodes from us a week and i'd encourage you just to check them out. You know if you just like listening to me totally understand you know. I've only ever posted one episode week. So you're not missing anything. I'll still be posting one episode week But i'm going back to just kind of giving out my personal messages For just a little while. I still wanna do series and stuff like that And i'll get you know if you have input or if there's something that you want to hear you guys always you can email me at g. L. dot com But also check us out on life grove. Life grove dot org. We've got some interesting stuff going on. We ever owned social media experience We have Meditation teachers we have like spiritual counselors. So we've got some very interesting things in the works and we also have a youtube channel for life grove. Where i i have my own series running there too. If you wanna find me and listen to me on youtube just check us out at life. Grove so yeah so a lot of things a lot of moving pieces but i just wanted to reassure that this piece isn't changing my show. The hermit radio show will still be every monday hopefully and if anything changes. I'll let you guys know. But i appreciate everybody. We've now been listened to in forty different countries which is mind blowing to me. 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Without Anxiety About Imperfection - featuring special guest, Haemin Sunim, with Tara Brach

Tara Brach

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Without Anxiety About Imperfection - featuring special guest, Haemin Sunim, with Tara Brach

"Greetings. We offer these podcasts freely and your support really makes a difference to make donation, please. Visit tar Brock dot com. It is my complete delight to welcome and introduce him and soon and blessings and thank you so much for being here. Yeah. I'm just a few words about him. And then I'm gonna exit stage left, but I'm him. And I actually met him probably fifteen years ago when I just a young thing, and you just and he was teaching actually Buddhist teachings at Hampshire college and subsequently heavens a teacher and author travels teaches internationally extremely well known in Korea. His his books have sold three million four million copies. And we're talking about major, and we have the books here the one that is most recent as love for 'perfect things. And I've read both of them you're gonna love this book. It's so. Oh, beautiful. It's it's got. It's completely excessive oil like short pieces that are absolutely deep and beautiful and wise and really do love your book. So I just want to say that it's really amazing to have a guest here that I've experienced this being so completely genuine embodying the teachings of wisdom and love, and I know that you will enjoy this teaching you get tonight. So again, thank you. Thank you so much for inviting me here I've been watching. This Dharma gathering from Korea through YouTube, and I never thought that I'll be here and meeting you. So it's such an honor. I'm very happy to be here before star. I was thinking maybe I can start out with a joke with that feel k yeah. But I actually got it from the internet. So I. It's called you are just like Frank. Oh, man walked out to the street and catches a taxi just going by he gets into the taxi. And cabbie says perfect timing. You are just like Frank. And the passenger says ou and cavity says Frank Furman. He's guy who did everything right? All the time. Like my coming along when you need it, a cat things happen like that to Frank Furman every single time and passenger as always said there are always of few clouds over everybody. But cabbie said nothing Furman. He was good at sports. He could have won the grand slam at tennis. He could golf with the pro he's saying like opera singer and dense like roadway star. And he could have heard him play the piano. Ano-? He wasn't amazing guy. And then peasant just that sounds like he was something really special to cabbie set. Here's more he has a memory like, computer. Remember everybody's birthday. He could fix anything. He he also knows the quickest way to go in traffic and avoid traffic jam now. Like me, I always seems to get stuck in them. But Frank he never made any missed any mistake. He really knew how to treat a woman, and he never answered her back, even if she was in the wrong, and his clothing was always immaculate. He was the perfect man and passenger amazing fellow. How did you meet him? And then cabbie said, well, I never actually met Frank. He died, and I have the pleasure of being married to his widow. I'm so glad that you like. Yeah. Perfect men Frank. Yes. So I wrote a book call love for imperfect things, and I was I wrote this book Harley because I was inspired by one of the great zen masters saying is according to Sam master sometime he was great Chan or zen master in China back in six century. It says true freedom is being without anxiety about imperfection. True. Freedom is being without anxiety about imperfection. So I wanted to talk about this toward the end. I wanna come around and talk about this and how we can actually become not so anxious about our own, imperfection. But I you know, I thought that maybe I can ask this question. When do we start feeling that some of the? Things that we are some aspect of ourselves feeling that it's a programmatic or imperfect. Let me say it again when do you start? When did we start feeling that some aspect of ourselves is not perfect is problematic? We need to change. When did you? When do I feel that way? Probably, you know, we've felt it when our loved one, you know, in this case. Franks not Franks permits. Wife in the cab is. Why if he she was keep on, you know, criticizing him telling game, you should do this. How come you're not doing that? You know, things like that. So you know, when we are young sometime, our parents loved one mother or father, they can become very critical, and they can say, oh this aspect of you needs to change the this is not good, you know. And then you know, we slowly because we are young. We didn't know any better. We internalize the voice of our critics. So those critic they are usually very very good at finding faults in other people, and then so annoying. They we internalize. And then even though the critic is gone. We still feel that there is something wrong with me. Do you? See what I'm saying? Yeah. So. Often time kind of the voice of critics is. Is in the hero. She loves to compare like in this case, the cabbie was compared to the wives husbands or your parents might compare you yourself to your older brother or siblings or your cousins. Oh, how come you're not behaving? The way your cousin is behaving things like that in nature. So you know to overcome those kind of inner critics within us, then we sometime set the bar really high. You know, almost too high that we cannot actually overcome can that actually realize that goal and that goal is usually you said not to satisfy ourselves but to prove. That we are worthy to your parents or somebody who have been very critical of you. So. I was thinking that. However, you know, if we just really examine this idea of perfection or the ideas about imperfect things. You realize that first of all it is just thought it is just, you know, this idea is in your head and often time it is not share by everyone. Let me just give you one example when I was. Like two years ago. I was asked to do the radio show, some kind of music DJ. You know what I'm saying? So I get to play all of my favorite meditation music. You know, I get to talk about all of my favorite authors. So, you know, I said, oh, okay. Maybe I'll do that. And so on my first day of recording. You know? I remember one of my friend told me that when you speak low voice, you know, it sounds really nice pleasing and attractive. You know? So when I was recording my first very first show. I tried very hard to speak very low. But you know, it's doing it again. And again, I realized that wasn't good enough for me. So I keep telling my producer. I have to again, I have to you know. So after you know, trying maybe four or five times, my producer said with all due respect. We don't really care. We cannot tell the difference. You know, only difference is only in my it was in my head. You know, so. I just realized that you know, how many time do we you could also self just to get to the perfection. The idea that we had, you know, sometime we do it at the expense of our relationship or our health or some of the happy things that we could have enjoy, but we completely become like an almost neurotic when it comes to just being to become very good at something. However, there are different way to. Deal with this kind of imperfection problems. Like, so I would like to just bring a couple of example, I one is we have to just accept that. We are not in control like, for example. You might be wondering why on earth, you know, means is wearing sunglasses. But because I was so looking forward to this moment, and I, you know, however, right before like two days ago I start having pink eye. So whenever I looked at my mirrow. I looked like a villain character model, and and mentioned so I thought maybe I should wear and also. Only on my way here from New York. I was in a subway, and but somehow six avenue the tunnel water pipe broke. So I make a really long detour. And then thereby just missed my train. You know? So, you know, things like that happens. Right. And when things like that happens. I think we always have a choice that is you know, where to dwell our mind. So for me, I tried to dwell try to see the right side of this. So for example, you know, as I was coming in. I was thinking to myself, you know, whenever I look at the better monk, they get to wear sunglasses. Do you know these? But in Korea is like very strange are not if I were to wear sunglasses. I'll be frowned upon. You know? So this is my moment here. I felt like I could just be full locating. You know? You know? Looking like the Neo character from you know, the movie. Matrix. Anyway. And then also I know that when this symptom disappears into three days later, I know that I'll be very grateful. I know how how wonderful that I don't have illness anymore. We took for granted that you know, we I our eyes will be healthy and clean all the time. But that is not the case. And also, I'm very thankful that it is not something very serious kind of illness. You could've been flu for example. And then I might have to cancel this event. And another thing about missing my train was that as the train actually departs at noon. But when I got to Penn station, I was literally twelve a one. So I missed one minute, right? So there was I had the choice. Do I have to dwell on? You know, how how you know? Imperfect situation is you know, or just find some bright side of this. So I was thinking to myself. Well, you know for the last two weeks that I've been in the US because of the cold weather. I didn't get to any do any kind of exercise. So for the last three avenue that I had to rush to get here. He was a kind of exercise. I was drenched in sweat. And then my heart was beating really fast. And I felt like, wow, you know, this nature telling me to exercise, very funny way. So and then on other thing that I noticed this because I had one hour the next train depart at one. So all of that I have one hour, and then I realized that I can actually go have a my favorite Mexican food because in Korea is very difficult to find really good Mexican for. So I found nice Mexican restaurant and set down and then older my favorite vegetable idea. So I was savoring for one hour. Yeah. Yeah. So there are a lot of imperfect things going on now alive. You know, like, for example, when I first become among. My master. He wasn't exactly what I had in mind. You know? I thought that what is Muster's are supposed to be very sincere, and dedicated, and, you know, very calm, but my master, you know, he turns out to be hot temper. He loves to make a lot of jokes. You know? He's he's you know, he wasn't very perfect. You know? So at that time when I became Dane. Back in two thousand. I remember there was another moan Korean monk. He, and I we became very close. So I would sometime visit, you know, my friend temple, and then I would have dinner together with he's master. Right. And then when I looked at his master. I was thinking to myself all my gosh. You know this master's perfect. You know, he's since you doesn't make any jokes. You know is very dedicated and Syria's perfect. You know, how come I I didn't get to have his master. So I was a little envious, you know, and and then time past ten years later, I met my friend monk again out on on inside in Seoul accidentally. And then I said how high you still nice to see you again. How have you been? How's your? Master the perfect one, you know, and then my friend monk he said that I no longer in touch with my master. He says he he distance himself from his own master. So I was very very perplexed. I didn't know why. Because you mustard to me was perfect. And he said well because he was perfect. He asked all his disciple to behave in a perfect way. You know? And so he was kicked nagging us. You know, you have to do there. You have to do that you have to do this you have to. So we fell very hurt. And so I decided to leave my master. So that's what they told me. And then at that moment, I realized that my master's actually, not too bad after all because. Because he's hot temper. There is actually positive side to it. You know, if you look at it that is he does not hold grudges. You know, he after he gets mad in the next morning. He often forgets all about it. You know? So and then he also often give gives me gave me a pocket money after he getting mad. And also also because because he wasn't perfect. You know, he was so willing to forgive other monks, you know, and some come to my temple after having some kind of scandal. However my master's, okay, it's okay. We are all human being we all make mistakes, and therefore my master even though we live in a very small temple. We are living with the seven or eight different monastic together often time with to this nuns and monks together. And I realized that it is because of my master's imperfect, you know aspects which is. You know, we realize later on. So I think we always have a choice when it comes to imperfect things, you know, you can look at the brighter side, and or you can look at all the sides, and if you were to dwell on the negative side. And of course, you will feel your life is full of problems one time after giving my talk one woman. She asked me a question. Oh hemmingsen. I don't know. What to do? My husband. He is. He, and I we don't communicate very well. Because he doesn't listen to me. You know, he he never ever admits that he is wrong. And he would usually tell me what to do, you know? But you know, he doesn't wanna talk very much, you know. So I don't know what to do. And then exactly a week later on other woman. You know, she asked me a question. I mean, I don't know what to do. You know? My husband is too chatty. You know, he loves to talk and he's worse than my girlfriends. He's just always asking me how I feel just I just I don't know what to do with this. You know, so. I wish I, but the thing is when I asked the woman who have problem communication problem. I asked her, you know, you've been married, you know. You know, long time how come when you first met him, you know, what rusty attraction and she said well when I met him. He was he appeared to me, very manly. Very protective, very masculine. You know, these are the kind of quality that I really fell attracted to. But it is the same quality that also can be not so well communicated, not listening to the end, you know, do do you see what I mean? Yeah. It's the same aspect which has a to the negative and positive side. And but we often forget that it has positive side. We just dwell on the problems. Yeah. And also like to talk about. When we are of when we are feeling a lot of imperfect things we didn't ourselves we sometime identify ourselves with those flaws. Those imperfect beings wild forgetting, our true nature, you know, like one onto the way to deal with imperfect. Shen imperfect thing is I liked the way I said earlier, we can look at the positive side, you know. And then the second one is much more Buddhist alternate solution. That is to realize that you are not imperfect things you are the silent being that is aware of your imperfect dings. You see the difference? Don't identify yourself with imperfect things, but you are the silent being observer or inner witness or awareness. Then knows your imperfect things often time, we just, you know, just ended up on consciously just identify with some of the manifest aspect ourselves. However, our true nature. Call our Buddha nature is form this. It is on manifest. It is free and is always here and now and out of which many different aspect of our. Imperfect things might manifest, nevertheless, we are not bound by those imperfect things so let's just just quick access is if you you know. If you can indulge me that is can you just? Deal. Sense was your shoulder. Feels like. Can you feel and sense? How your shoulder is now feeling? Yeah. Can you do that? Yeah. Yeah. And while you feeling that the sensation arising in your shoulder area. And now, I also want you to have a one thought. You can be any thought. If you cannot decide which which start to have then just say. Let it be. So now, you have a one thought. And now, you can also sense. How your shoulder is feeling? And now also become aware of my voice. Which comes from from the outside of your body. So now, you can send all three things. The first thing is the sensation in your body. And the second thing is thought and third thing is the sound that is coming. Outside of your body. Then like to ask you this question. That is. Between your thought and the sensation on your shoulder. Is it happening in the same awareness or is it happening in two different awareness? Easter any kind of wall or curtain dividing the awareness. That is the awareness of your thoughts and awareness of your sensation. Or is this just one awareness field within this one hour nece feel that you are experiencing? And now, let's go one step father. While you are listening to my voice and see if. If the voice is actually. Happening within the same awareness field or whether it this is happening. How side of your awareness field? If it actually happens outside of your awareness field, then you wouldn't be able to aware become aware of this. Right. Because you are aware of this boys. Immense. It is within your wellness. And within this awareness. Can you see if there is any divide between the sound this perception of this sound and sensation of your shoulder? Do they happen within the same awareness field? Or do they happen in the two separate awareness? Now, you can open your eyes. Yeah. So what did you discover did you were you able to feel that it is one awareness field within which all the sensation? Perception conceptual thought all occur at the same time. Do you know what I'm saying to you understand what I'm trying to say? Yeah. Yeah. So this is one aliveness, you know, if I our towers wonderful language, it is just one aliveness one unify aliveness through from which all this different sense, Asian and and perceptions and. You know, this all happening. But the thing is people we tend to just focus on the manage manifest aspect the sensation. Or the thought or the the sounds or the perception outside whether it's visual or audio, you know, wild forgetting while forgetting on manifest there's awareness field. You know? You know, and that is our true nature that true nature has the characteristic of knowing right? You know, you become aware. However, whatever that you become aware of cannot taint or pollute that awareness field. Do you understand what I'm saying? Okay. To make it easier. So let's say just become aware of this face. Okay. Let's say you just become aware of this face. And then. I I put my phone here. Right. And become aware of this phone. Yes. Right. And then I go like this. Then you become aware of my book. Right. Yeah. But if this awareness the object the phone can actually pollute or taint the awareness, then when I did this some image of this phone has to appear here. Some trace of the phone has to appear here on top of the book. Do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah. But when we when I when I switch what happened. It's completely raises. You know? And then he comes back, and we can. Can recognize new object? In other words. You know, we there can be many different object in popping out manifesting out of their awareness field. However, whatever that object is even though you have intimate with that object. You know, because you know, you're very intimate with it. However this object is self no matter how imperfectly it is can never ever pollute or taint your Buddha nature. That's why you can become. Living like what you know, just master tan said that is. True freedom is being without anxiety about imperfections. So there can be lots of imperfect things. However, you know, that your true nature, which is on bone on mantis nature can never die or can never be polluted or influenced by it. You are ever present free and loving and nurturing awareness, that's where your true homeless. Okay. And I would like to invite Tara at this point. By the way. This is my first time giving this kind of large Dharma tall in English. So I'm very nervous too. So. I'm just trying to memorize your jokes. I think they're great. I wanna use them. And I was thinking of sunglasses to because I think it looks really cool. That's an. I love what you're talking about. Because as many of you know, and this is left from perfect things. So much of what we always explored together is the suffering that comes from feeling that something's wrong with us. I mean, that's like you'd probably is this in Korea to horse after bad person hood in. And so I love that. You're really exploring the strategies that wake us from that. And when I listened to one of the things that really hits me is that I feel like I have some mastery facing, imperfection. Like, it's like all my life. I feel like it's like so many round of being caught in this sense of failing and not knowing that I was caught in it. And then having to go it's this again. So that's why call a transit unworthiness. And I'm wondering does this still do you still go through it? Do you still get caught and then have to go I'm in that one again, and then extricate? Like, you know, sometime I. Bit feeling blue a little bit depressed or something. I pick on my book. And I read my. Just to make sure that. Better. Yeah. So I talk about my book that is, you know, one of the most difficult thing difficult special practice is actually. Practicing. What you preach, and there is a huge gap between the two the initial awake and to your Buddha nature while we just described or during the meditation where you let us to. It's not too difficult. You can get there. But the problem is can you live in that awareness all the time? You know, can you know that all those things is? Without permanent. You know, it is like. Wonderful display of our food nature. So that brings up my question for you is when you get caught and it's hard to pay attention away. That reveals the essential impersonality and change. How else do work with yourself? If you're feeling real. They're really stuck do do ever have to really turn towards finding some self compassion. And how do you do that? I I tried to go back to my other incher that is. Whatever that is happening. It is actually not going to affect the ever present our true self. And then the second thing is I try to understand the situation often time we approach any kind of circumstance situation. Find the the finding it very troublesome. Because we want to change the person or change the situation. It is almost impossible. Can't can you change your own child? Even though you share the same DNA. It's almost very difficult to change your child. And then think about the all other people with whom you never share any kind of DNA. So. And yet we still try. He's tried to. And then so rather than trying to change all the people. I try to understand where this person is coming from. Why did they, you know be in such a way that hurt me on other? You know? Cold to awakening is also whenever we feel any kind of pain or heartbreak. That's also great opportunity for us to wake up. Has been times when you've been caught in judgement of other people, and it's been hard for you to be able to see what's causing them to do things in that way. She how their pains causing it. And. Yes. You know, I I started the school broken heart in Korea. And then I after the success of my first book, I realized that I have to I want to offer something back to my people in Korea. And so I begin to offer many different great courses on like people who lost their loved one and people who just recently got divorced or young people who couldn't find a job. So I wanted to offer many kind of therapeutic, you know, program for free, and then slowly other people they came together. So now, it's growing. However, you know, right before coming to here, I noticed that. There was like a long complaint. There was one woman complaining, and then she was willing to even demonstrate in front of the school of roken hard. And basically accusing me that my Sarah pubic program actually, hurt her something like that. And so I was really really surprised and so I invited her immediately and try to understand her. And that was talking I realized that she thinks that her cell phone was actually being capped by the the New York governor. I don't idea why she thinks that way. And then you know, where to solve that problem on the Korean president has to get involved. But because she doesn't have any tied to Korean president. Therefore by the during me somehow cream president will get involve, and then he will talk to the New York governor and the Yoka. Do you see what I mean? I realize what was going on, you know, she basically really really believe her thoughts. And she believed this thought to be true. And as I was speaking more and more the cause of that was that while she was very young her father was really violent. And and I think that was one of the reasons why she begin to have that kind of problem. So once I had that kind of understanding I into a little more compassion. I'm really grateful that you share that. Because as I was asking I was thinking that sometimes it's really clear, we can somebody can do something that we can see all that person suffering. They're they're, you know, feeling themselves not loved or whatever. But sometimes it's really hard to get down. And yet there's something about trusting that if you pay attention long enough everybody that's causing suffering in some way caught right? They're in some way, and just knowing that actually creates a lot of space in terms of react. And they're called either in the memory. That's like, you know, you can become a trauma, and they can never they don't know how to stop. And how and then or you called in the some kind of thinking thoughts in this is the way you should supposed to do. But it's not happening. And so yeah, absolutely. So I'm curious do teach meditation part of as part of broken, heart offerings. We do offer meditation class and some of the meditation is traditional Hassan home. But some of them is much more body center. You know, like a dance program dance that'll meditation. I think it's important that we listen to our own body because our body is where we meet our on consciousness. I feel that. So if you just let your body move like the way it wanted to move, then he comes to a point where you can actually release some of those experience of being caught. And we were talking about the earlier about how in the west we say that your issues are in your tissue. Choose which is a great time because it means that we can't bypass our body. And so I love that. It's what's so amazing about when I talked to him and sense. How what we're exploring happening globally this way of waking up that it's really through the body and waking up the hard and being with the owner ability. And it's exactly what you're doing in your programs. I think even after the initial weakening. What happened is the our eventual tendency to tense up through our body. That's what's causing us from living in the truth living in the awareness that s shows we get tench it generates more tense thoughts that go back to ten body. We just automatically identify ourselves our body, and and we we cannot even though I know even though I feel that sometime, however, our bodies saying something else, and we believe that right now, I'm gonna share that the frame you put the shin to be without and giant about imperfection has been one of my guiding lights for the last like thirty years or whatever. And I'm wondering, maybe if there are questions, there's might have just sensing what's been shared with you. And this whole invitation to. To learn to be with imperfection. Because really our home our true home, our true nature can't be stained by them and the freedom that comes with that. And if there's any questions that come up for you. And I don't know if we have a Mike nearby says calling on our our hand-held, Mike, but then we can. Here questioner. Yes. Could you share your thoughts on her relationship of Mara to what you've been talking about? And imperfection. Relationship to Mara. How what your thoughts on mar in relation to imperfection? I think you know, you can overcome are when you realize that Mara is actually manifestation of your true nature. If you are protected by our up, you know as evil or something that is. Wrong, and we have to remove things like that. Then the battle will continue. However, if you actually sit down and just allow Damara and then realize that actually the Mara is coming out of the same one single awareness field. You know, it is interplay of our mind the whole life experiences, and if you can be awaken to that. Then no matter what kind of Morrow peers to you. You will not be bothered. You feel at ease. I'm curious. How many of you do not know whom are as okay? So I had a feel. The so the Mara is right before the game when you become awaken. This. Temptation, all this the king of how can I say the kings who sent to tent shock Fuda away from his awakening, you know. So I, you know, this king of Mara he sent very beautiful women and then later on his sent whole troops. And then later on the same image of him. And then asking food, do you think you are you know, that kind of? The. So Mara in a wage will be sent her skull the shadow side. It's like all the greed. Hatred. Delusion anything that we get identified with that makes us smaller. And it's not that the greed arises it just it's not that we have lost. Our our wants that causes a problem. The problem is that we identified, and we think we have to have and that we are the wanting creature. So we can let everything arise as long as we don't get identified and lucite of. I mean, the Buddhist deepest teaching is we suffer when we forget who we are. And that's that's the challenge of Mara. But Mars, you say can be worked with you can have tea with Mara because you don't have to get dented, exactly. So any other questions? Hi, thank you very much for being here. I was wondering if you have any very practical advice for when a person spirals down in focusing very much on their imperfection. And they're not able to necessarily separate that imperfection from their true nature. Like what are merging see kid? Bam day. Would you suggest to help break apart that spiraling down? I don't know exactly what aspect of imperfections that person is feeling. But if I were you I would point out that ask some rational questions. Are you sure this is some of the really negative aspect of you? If you look at it from that direction. I think you'd have some positive side and within your own capacity. You have done as much as you, can, you know? So I think what he has done is actually pre is wonderful in that sense. So I would try to shed light on some of the positive side. So that he can think differently looking at the same situation from another interpretations notice that our human life is is whole sip. Just nothing but a series of interpretations, depending on how you interpret. You will you can't accept things as it is or you will feel miserable while resisting. What is? It's great to have in a way, the two wings because what this is the wing of of wisdom of really seeing clearly this is not me and look at where the goodness. And then there's the wing of the heart side, and I can say for myself, I have gotten caught in feeling the transit unworthiness at times when I felt like really selfish, and I felt like I just was not coming through for people, and is very hard for me to sense, Buddha nature that there was a goodness there. And that was really painful just feeling this kind of intrinsic something's wrong feeling really flawed. And it was in feeling the pain of that. Like how much that hurt? And then realizing how many moments in my life. I've been kind of caught in that sense of something's wrong, and how that had kept me from feeling intimate with others at a kept may from. Join the sunshine in those moments of of that suffering something you tender is. And so I could start to say it's okay sweetheart, it's okay. And even if you don't feel the self compassion fake, go through the motions because sometimes just putting your hand on your heart. And speaking to the place in new that is not able to fill a nature. It's softened something. And what actually happens is the self sense starts losing. It's it's hard edges, and there's a softening and you start having a bigger space, and then you can see from the wisdom side, much more. Clearly, oh, that's just that same character of self. I've been identifying with all these years, and there is something more you could start shining. The light just the way. Hyman was talking about. Sometimes you have to go into the compassionate side. Where you just go out this hurts. It's okay. Honey. That's why there's the beauty of these different teachings that. There are as the Buddha said how many like eighty six thousand different pathways, and we find out what works at any given moment, and we have to really stay flexible because there's no one formula. That's going to always work in a moment. Great to do tag team. I can do. Try to flip that. So I think it's just follow up on the same question. Like, a how to when you have yourself or you experience things is from other. And you need to have somehow yourself as while you onto maybe have compassion to self and to other people that you have recession with some twist on this question would be what kind of how to you think is appropriate and business settings. So you have a meeting, and you know, you have your awning says or another person has his own now. But you still want to continue stations about specific business topics. What appropriate measure can have for example, if you have your hand on your heart? I don't think it's pretty much accepts that the business meeting. What else we can use? You know, it's funny. How much you can get away with and business meetings? But for me, I have some way start with myself before I can begin to open a space in really sense with the others going through have to have in some way, breathe usually breathe into the place that feels vulnerable in kind of do that anywhere. Nobody knows so breathe in with it. And then some way send a message of kindness and understanding N word and it very quickly. There's kind of a magic if you even remember the idea to be kind just remembering that, that's even your intention to be kind toward yourself or another because your nature is kindness. It starts waking up Mattingly. So you can do without any major grand dramatic gestures. Hope that kind of response to what you're asking. And I can't see the lights glaring. But anyway, thank you. We had one more. And then I think we're going to close. Thank you so much. Many of the conversations I've been having with my friends. These days is about the loss of hope that we're seeing around the world be stays. And we're seeing countries go into dictatorships to -tarian regimes. The environment is going to mass. And we're all trying to figure out what is our goals as individuals within this within the situation. How do we act mindfully in making that change without being caught up in anger fear frustration anxiety, so talks about basically imperfection of the world that we're working? We're living in some wondering. If you have any tips or thoughts on how we as individuals mindfully try to change the world that we're living in. I think one of the things we have to remind ourselves is everything that we are experiencing right now is impermanent. It's not gonna last Trump is not gonna last. So, you know, just impermanent has hope. The build team hope so to speak. So. So if you are experiencing something incredibly negative just remind yourself that it's not gonna last. But on the other hand, I think what you are asking really good questions. We do want to walk into. The society, and then reading all the great wonderful practice where we've been doing it into the reality thought sometime, we get caught in anger and frustrations. So I think. When I feel that way sometime you know, what I try to do is. I remind myself, you know, what is my intention here. You know? And just to realize that the my intention is to see more, compassionate and more loving society. For example, then I should connect to that intention and from that internship out of that compassion out of their loving kindness. I would go out and and work, and if you do that you can work for a long time, but if you are fighting for something out of your anger out of your bureau, this then you know, what happened is after two or three years of active participation. You yourself will become a burn out, and you will be disillusioned about the whole movement. And you will you know, you'll you'll be wondering. Okay, we want all the things that we wanted. However, you know, it didn't turn out. Exactly what I had in mind. I am. So. Disappointed of all those people we've been working together in this movement. And you begin to hate them. You see so you have to coming out of your intention of your compassionate attention of heart intention of. Goodness. I don't know how to say. Yeah. Yeah. I just want to the word piggyback like we're. I think that's so right on that. We want to serve a world that is going towards healing Justice freedom, and it won't work. If we bring the same energy to try to make the change that's already the aggression that is causing so much suffering, and I feel angry a lot of days about what's going on. I mean here we have the government's shutdown. I have friends and friends of friends that are really having a hard time. And so it gets me. And it gets me angry how come at shutdown. I mean, there's there's a kind of like I can't it's kind of har- almost and I'm angry about a lot of stuff. So I let the anger be there. But I don't stop there. I keep going keep paying attention to what's under the anger, which as you said under the anger. There's caring I care about this world. And if I don't stop at the but get down to what's under then out of that, caring. I can speak. I can ride I can engage wherever it seems helpful. So thank you for that. It's the intention deep down that we need to get to. I think you said it beautifully. Yeah. Yeah. And thank you for your questions. And again on behalf of all of us, a deep bow. Thank you for being with us. For more talks meditations and to learn about my schedule. Join my Email list, please. Visit Tara Brock dot com.

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Shohaku Okumura Roshi: Stories from Modern Zen Masters

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Shohaku Okumura Roshi: Stories from Modern Zen Masters

"This is wisdom podcast. The wisdom cast I'm Daniel Aken, CEO and publisher of Wisdom Publications before we get started I wanted to tell you all about an exciting new initiative, the wisdom experience at the wisdom experience you'll find our full library of podcast episodes, and by subscribing you'll have access to the video. Versions of some of our podcast to you can also gain access to extensive online reading catalog, acclaimed lecture, series, and many online courses simply go to wisdom experience dot org to check it out for this episode I had the great pleasure of speaking with Shawki Mirror Roshii Japanese Soto Zen priest and revered writer and translator. Okay Miro, she is also the founder and current Abbot of the Sunshine Zan Community in, Bloomington Indiana. In this conversation you, he accumulated row. She tell powerful stories, not only from his own life, but from the lives of his teaches zen master Kosho Gucci in the Great Kodo Suwalki Roshii, one of the most influential Sodas and teaches of the twentieth century. Off camera she explains the emphasis on Zan of a monastic rituals within his lineage drawing parallels to both duggan's teachings as well as he's on personal encounters with Zan. You'll also hear how this emphasis on Zane has played out in his development as a practitioner as well as his development as a translator. I so much enjoyed this conversation and I hope you. You mentioned that you discovered a book that sort of set you on your down a path and that book was called self. It was by show which Yama, so I was wondering how you came upon that. and. What was in that book? That really spoke to you. When I was seventeen years old I was a high school shooting in Osaka. And I didn't like school system. And I have A. Friend who didn't exclude neither. So. We are always talking and complaining about. Japanese education system and value system when Japanese, society at the time you know, definitely Pru, why what very hard to make money to make Afterward what to Japan were very poor, so they have to restore them prosperity. So they walk God and. We didn't like walking heartful. Make money we. I addressed. I wanted to find some Meaning of more making money. And that school? You know teachers teach us. We have to study hard to go to our Christie Jess. University And that is to get a good job got means to make good money and I couldn't find any meaning. OBE live in that way over F. So we are in the intervals. And I often escaped from grass room and a win to a laboratory school library. Under or many books about philosophy. On Cy, young son and so forth. And that friend has some Wa Food New Anti Z.. to two. So the pass on went to on to practice. Who is a does? Qudos Shonda. Under G is a monastery in Kyoto. Is that is that? Yes I live with ing or soccer. On Growth from Osaka. So. During the summer vacation, the friend went to untie visited and ties understated therefore. I think about two weeks. On that was the year nineteen sixty five that that was. Like after was published, the first book on that was Or the set of soul. My friend was staying at anti-g. He gave a copy of Bush's a book to his friend. And after he came back from as he, he allowed me to read that book. That was how I. Studied to read that book so. You you. You had more like poetic sensibility that didn't. You know that. May You know the work? The school to work sort of passed less appealing to you and the end you found in this book self something that spoke to you and I'm wondering. What what what do you do you remember any any particular quotes from the book of what what spoke to you hot. Okay An. I led the book. I wanted to find meaning of life for the best way to leave and why we should leave. So I was asking the question did many books. I lead Jamora Russia's a book I found that. I. Was a teenager. He had the same question and he to find. The answer to his question, he went to wasn't university to study west of Los of and. Fire, Hugh studying Western philosophy. He, find that deeply understand. I'm philosophy of He needs to understand Christianity, so after he completed muster 'cause, he became a teacher at a Catholic seminary. In Japan on the he thought Feudal Sophie and Matic's and also he had some kind of our hope that he could be a Catholic, but after six months he find he couldn't. And why was that because he felt he couldn't feet in the institutional racism in Catholic Attach. So, so he quit that job after six months and went back to Tokyo. Octavia you before he, he became the teacher. Fire. He was a university student. He married and. He defies wife. passed away with TB to unity's and So after he went back to Tokyo from the similarity, he married again and he's a sick underway for also died. Why she was. Pregnant to us, very. Painful experienced for him, yeah. and. He find that studying philosophy unthinking doesn't. Give me the answer. Wow, fi! He started to practice then okay, so then so light you. He was looking for the meaning of life. And then he he's path took him to the university to study Western philosophy. And this is this is coach Yama right very famous. Yes, and so then he went to university, and actually was studying western philosophy for the meaning of life. Yes, then he realized that he couldn't really understand Western philosophy without understanding Christianity, and then so that took him to studied quite deeply Christianity I. Think so yes, but he was. It didn't fit well with him. The the institution, the kept of the Catholic Church, and so he found himself. Back, that's how he found himself studying well, then he had these tragedies in his life. You know and he realized that intellectual. Study of Philosophy, all these intellectual philosophy is not a solution to this emotional pain of life. And, so then he turned to Zan attuned to Zan. Is that correct? Yeah, he tried to find the best teacher for him and he would find. Is this when he come? He came in studied with Kodo so arche, yes, at that time at that time circular. She was the Goto are kind of teacher. The Saudis e modestly Neog Tokyo I i. know this. This term homeless Kodo Right, so this is the same great teacher Great Zen teaches yes, and he was mostly not add a monastery by wandering round. Is that correct, or did he? He stay at some monasteries in that. That's how they met. During that period, he was a teacher I cut the monastery, but the same time he was a professor at Tacoma's universe. Comas Social Tasha University yes so he. He still didn't have his own temple. Was a teacher, a staff of that big monastery. And he he's continued to travel all over Japan. On On that day, Jemele! Ordained was December. A Thousand Nine, hundred, forty, one, nine, hundred and forty-one. Powder how about the? Well. Wow. And and so. This was a special meeting between these two teachers right very influential. After that, he practices with our Keno she and what he's practiced. Look like what how in those days would have looked like to learn Zanan Japan all the time so shots billy special then. Photos and teacher. She Jerry focus on their then. Even though he no, he knew everything research I mean about. Molested practice but At the time in which allows for the ordained, he bought a temporary. Not far from Tokyo and he allowed. His disciples to stay that impro-. and. was always travelling, but he visited that temporal on the while. Someone's to read our five this season. Okay, Except that five decision, those not isn't monks. another suggestion. named Sam nicest in that means offense oculus was there are many people from outside of came to this decision, but during this session under by design into monks, and they start literary twenty four hours. Wow, he's from. They sat from two in the morning. do me tonight. They see! Fifty minute. Periods and minutes king honor the beat it until midnight except three times a day for me use. And during that time they somebody is Go around with your circle. Hitting stick yes, so often they. Sleep the IT'd be heat. Wow, but do adding to our be between midnight and two in the morning. They stop using. So they could sleep. Wow, and and so they would still sleep in sitting position yes. Yes, while so that's you stay where you are, but you would slate. Yes, so literally they twenty four hours for seven days to seven days. So this is like so coach Yama Win Win. This master went and studied with Suwalki. Roshii this was like the training he would undergo. Yes, it's very interesting that it's fifteen minutes fifty, five, zero, five zero fifty minutes then than ten minutes of. Walking Meditation Walking Meditation of fifty minutes, seating ten minutes walking fifty minutes Tan all the way from two am to midnight. Yeah, except except city mead was on the show the X.. Throwing the meal while, and that would last for seven days is and the role of that. Was that a training? What was the hope if you went for seven days and trading like that? What was the hope? Will the purpose of doing such intense study? Practice I mean. You know so most famous thing. Is that ain't good for nothing? Good nothing that we go I. I had expected an answer like that. So, they just they just see so then I'm. So. OCOEE OSHII who very. Well known for emphasizing ZAN rather than the ritual meditation like the the rituals of the monastery. Yes, and so this is the lineage that you entered into this type of leaning Chinese. Tamara practice at that temple in that to a four three years three years. After three hours, be! At the end of their worldwide to you know they. They had to leave that emperor because to the rain talk your had to. Evacuate evacuate. From Tokyo, understate temple into countryside, so they had to leave. Wow, and so you this seven days. How often in a surfer three years and then? How often would you do the seven days? In. A year I think once a month once a month every month. How so twelve times a year maybe and then for the other three weeks of a month. What would you be doing in these monasteries? They do use your scheduled the morning then and. Morning savage. Chanting. Onto studied periodic and forty in the afternoon watching billiard. That was the. day skills you're. Okay, and then your teacher coach Yama, was he? Was He given? Did Suwalki Yoshi make him he's air or something like that. How does it work in in Soto? A. So Jim Morris practicing that to a research for three, and he had to leave the temporal and he he needs to moving around, so he became another formless monk. Homeless! Until nineteen, fourteen nine. I'd. Borrow emptied, improve empty. Temperament known they were. There are no for many members, so it's the empty without family member means without an income. Wow and so he stayed there that became his place so Oculus Bano that tim prove for his disciples. which she found some more targets disciple uber there. At anti-regime in. Okay got starting a starting point of anti-g as a solid. She's improve. Okay, so this is the Wa- The temple near Kyoto Anton, G Anti. Yes, and that's the one that your friend from university went to. Then you back this book, self. So I find that. Same Question I had when Human Asia and he devoted himself to find the answer. To this Oh, he studied western. Philosophy Catholic theology on the on the Buddhism and Sin. And after he found his answer was in practice Dorgan's teaching he continued to practice and share the answer he found was younger people so I I wanted to Kim. You wanted to live like him. Wow, yeah, he. He was a fast oxidative. Pass on. Who Do such a way? Wow So? Like. What did you imagine he's life looked like that. You want to emulate so. He was obviously doing a lot of Zan and reading yoga. What what did you imagine? The life looked like back then I didn't I up in the city near Sokaia to me to study Daraghmeh on just dozen on the wild Ford in within the temporal. and. I knew they believed. Baking Takata because. The emperor had no income. So I really loved that overnight for I think that was kind of other talented way of life from. Life for making money. Yes, yes, it's a stock contracts, and and you'd sense that there will be some meaning in that life. What was it the simplicity? What did you think what would what what made that like I, feel like it had meaning simplicity peacefulness. On the study and Facing onset fizzing roofs facing oneself. Yes, not for doing something. With, other be put forth a of something to me that the good for nothing means good turn and dog is famous for saying to study the Dhamma away ways to study the self. Yeah, what do you take that to mean? 'cause that could mean many things. To India understand. We are. Is this how this? Awesome was a bomb undeserving together either be grew on. Sunday dying. How duty how to understand that process of between you. And this. Yes, on the meaning of this. Yes, then this. This is a really different type of life, and this really gets to the heart of the meaning of life right? I think so from the way of life I were expected by the Japanese society and then. So Lucky Rochhi and also coach Yama their emphasis on Zan rather than the monastic rituals. Do you think, where do you think a? Why do you think they had that emphasis? What? How did that come about for these great masters? Finn, Sarky she became, wanted to become a monk that. He was still a teenager. I think sixteen years old. On he he. visited a his to become a monk, but about the day he. He couldn't be ordained. Before because he need to find a job before and during the. saw. But he didn't know any teach us. Oh, he somehow a stayed at anti as they walk, and he ovezov how monks practice. And he somehow found Essense of their practice. Has Been or allow sitting. And he and he found people sitting. He ferried something very deep and sacred without knowing it is so you said I encounter that Dr thing before studying for days. And so for him, that is something very special. Do you think that was an important? Approach to Zan full. Suwalki Yoshie to actually experience something before he studied it. Yes, yeah, right? Yeah, and after that he was ordained and He he couldn't studied for. Hugh couldn't practice. Dharma for seven years because he was drafted, oh. Yes, underwent. During. Japan was, but after the after he determined from the. Army he studied. Teaching, okay I IDA Yoga Jira. INADA, and after that he's practice. Study Dogan practice then. So after that he. He after he completed. Studying she became a teacher, I wanNA ask the INFO local monastery in Soto's shift. And he and he found that Neither monks, nor the teacher the at Mona XLII presented yearly Sierra Practice Wow Yup. They are the to become a priest to them how to do ceremonies. Charges and he didn't like it, so he escaped. This is a lineage of escaping institutions. It sounds. Yes. and. It's interesting. I am so you mentioned? He went to a Yoga Chara. Temple he was yoga temples in Japan. Was this at university? Can put or monastery both I mean. Hold you is. One of the oldest, but is tempering Japan. Established by Short Oktai, she I think fringe shorter. who was a person who? Accepted Buddhism. In Japan, Japanese, history and hold you. Temple was horns on a main one ASCII all. So a shoe. Halsall shoe is. Jeopardized Japanese a name for your teaching. While in so so there was this, so he really saw what was happening this Suwalki Grocery? So what was happening in the monastery? This became his emphasis on Zan along with the importance because he felt a real value of encountering something directly before you study it. Yeah, would Kush Chioma have studied? Then before he encountered like. Would he have followed the same sort of as? I. Think so even when he was studying western. Philosophy has studying Buddhism, but but not practice. And then I heard one thing that well. This is interesting because I heard one thing while Suzuki row. She was in America teaching. JAPA- Japanese forms then coach Yama was in Japan. Emphasizing Zana Ova Japanese ritual forms right so this. This feels like two different things going on in two different parts of the planet right? Yeah, yeah, is that? Do you think that's you know that's a generalization? But do you think it's a fair generalization of these two strings? Very interesting. because. Saw put the emphasis on sitting that in practice. And A. Practice ceremony or each office. but he studies Dorgan's teaching very deeply. And in Japan, people who Neil? What we practice on the sitting under studying Dogan they. People knew these aggregated. So if people want to. Study Oh a practice, such indenture. They could go other tempers. Yes, right, so it's. So it's not a complete to. How can I say contradicted I mean. She's Tim. RUSSA's time you. Yes, and then what about Zan style like I hear this opium style of Zen practice and win this like sitting, described as just sitting in much more. It can they be different styles of just sitting? I think basically. The same based on dog and teaching Yeah Yeah. You know as I, said Fan. He became a monk with is. The various. Strict session. Yes, and he's after three years of experience of that kind of decision he found. That is not meaningful. To to tweak too strict. He said other living beings. We need thirteen. Amount of sweep. Yes other. Why do we become We experienced kind of abnormal era mentality. Yes, yes, too much strain I saw she decided to sleep seven hours. Okay so after. This? Started his own steidl session. WE SEPT Seventeen fourteen hours fourteen period from four in the morning until nine in the evening, so we have seven hours of sleep, and who and what January thought, that is enough so we have no excuse to three. Maybe a bigger stick. Biggest! On the order, so she quit using Kosaka or he did okay so. She didn't use use Kazakh. Eighteen. Stick. He felt that wasn't helpful to the practice he. said that a kind of hindrance hindrance. Yeah, because someone is walking behind people sitting somehow. People sitting and people walking around. talk. Talk! I mean site into Lee silently. Yeah, you're talking silently. Yeah I imagined for me. It would be a worry in my mind. Maybe a big distraction data. Destruction and indolence to be Daddy Jesse. Yes, yeah. And then also og, as in is being called session without toys site. So, what does what does that mean? That means Other kind of says she not other races. They have morning. ZOMBIES in not ten. Just formulas. Is Kink. And Digested extra and appeared on time on doors various things. Yes, so for whichever studies disruption. Thought that toys toys. Yes Yup. So it is, it is really just practice. Just sitting, just sitting three times eating seven hours sleep repeat. This is the. Fourteen of dozen on seven dollars per yet, so was it the fifty minutes ten minutes walking meditation as well yes. Yes, he. He didn't change that about yet. Yeah, wow, and then so so you came across this book right and then you read this book you're inspired. You thought I think this life would have been more meaningful. So what do you do go to? The temple how what's next? Tough, Guy He's a book. me and my friend Wanted to go to anti forces in got it yeah. But somehow we couldn't because of some. School event. So we. Get it up and I feel I. WE ARE Lucky. I didn't go I go to untie. Do Session Athena Seventeen I. I'm pretty sure I do not mind. Yes, my years so. Activity. Indoor that the December sixteen, one thousand, nine hundred sixty five cyclists passed away. Okay, yeah, and. In February next year my my friend died. Know how young. Yeah? He had cancer, Oh, Gosh, so she died within six months. Wow. I know. Everybody. She had sadie. And and yet we couldn't do anything. On the he died in July. Wow, so imagine that was a big loss for you. Because that's yeah, it was really painful and sad experience. To me. Yeah, that was one of the reasons. I decided to become a monk Yup. But it was it was although it was painful, but still I felt some kind of DEF-. Because of his death because I was thinking about meaning. Leading books and But he died a few Probably our could be. She's death he we talk. We talked about some kinds of. Things but the mineral rights. And because he was so weak. so he said I don't care about menu anymore. Wow Devi is had enough. Just living his just living with your just breezing. and. So and About one league. Later he died so I found that actor life on this is not taking in our thinking. Yeah. It seems like for him that I'll you know worrying about? The meaning of life was a relaxed luxury night. And it's not. Not Reality so I fast fund. We have to do I. Have to something. Yes, and that was a time I also I. I lead Dorgan's Gonzo Cohen. Cohen and I. I didn't understand your go on. Threes I accept it one. Part the parties about fish and bod. Bird dog and said if under wanted to understand entire Sky Austin There's no time. They good before before starting to. See more FRY if they want to understand entire sky or or Does not time he could. They could start do seem. Free so it's it's it's it means. Does this mean like that to try and understanding the meaning of life before you start living is doing it backwards. We have to fast. We have to live I threw living. We can find the. meaning. Yeah wonderful and That is. That was kind of duty for me. I should do things. But I didn't know. That is more than Dory saw I decided before starting to do dozen. I decide to go to university to study Buddhism. Allow. and. I like studying. What is a major was? Interesting. But after three as I found. That I was at that point, I had to make decision. I want to be a Buddhist scholar or practitioner. and. If I wanted to. I wanted to study become Pretty Scott I. It took my entire life. Yes to study. But that is not fat I wanted. So I. decided to become a monk. After thirty. Yes, I visited on John Asked to Jemele. To become his disciple, so you chose learning to Utah swimming rather than learning about the whole lotion i. Yes, yes, I've felt studying, but his mother's Carrozza studying. Let's B.'s we that cooking eds. Yes, yes, yes. And then I'm wondering how it was when you first went to university to study Buddhism. Because you've read this book, the Dhamma Book a self. You had this idea about the life of a of a Buddhist at attempt Boya, and then you went to university so I imagine that there was some quite large contrast there for you even though you enjoyed studying very much. It must have been a a bit of a difference for you. Hustle. I had always kind of thing salt to possibility to be to become. US Scott what the become. The practice. And I liked both but After! After three years I had I. I did the point that I have to make choice and the around that time. One of my professors said if we become a Buddhist. Through this career, you have to need books ten hours a day for ten years. Wow every day. And we said. We should study I know it was. quietly for ten years, so yes, that was a good choice. Yeah Yeah! You Conrad both horses! Ten Ten ten years of. Virginia and I. I. Should you know sit? Side entity for ten years the Wow, and so how do you so? You go from the University to the Temple? Is that is that? Why you chose. Yeah, yes, I was ordained as a monk or priest. Finn I. I was twenty two I was university student. Wow but I wanted to quit the school. Yes, but which. encouraged me to fast finished school on Goto Anti. It's quite an amazing story. Because when you're sixteen, you read this book, right? And the the person who wrote the this book self was will. Chioma and you and you and your friend would take in by this and you thought you would go to the town. He's Temple, g right, but then some for some reason you couldn't. And then your friends ended up dying and then went on this other path. And this went took you university? And then as you finish. University you you returned to the temple? You would have gone to and study with the person who wrote that book. It's quite you're twenty two now. So I think I was lucky I, didn't. Make that the. Aria. Because timing is important. Because I was not ready to. Jump into that kind of life. Yeah, so the timing is so important. And also another thing I had to think is. In Japanese society, he five or the sun need take care of the family Venus and take take care of their parents. The become older. And I was a fast. So you had. To make to decide to become a monk means I give up. You know that responsibility. Yes, at my family. So that was another thing I had to think so. How did you come to terms with that? and. I decided to become a monk I found to. Be a good son that not necessarily mean to get out. Get them, but I. Find. idee want to do or I live in the way ideology wish to leave I think is. is under the meaning of being a good son. Okay. Yes, so to be a good son of your parents is to live in the way. You. Think is best so then you're at the temple and yesterday. What was it like meeting a coach Yama after you know, he must have been quite a figure in your mind. Where HE DADDY? Focus on sitting? and teaching. And lighting books. He was very weak. Apostle as I said She's a faster way. Pasta died with TB. and. Cameras transmitted TV from. She's a forest. Okay! Wow, so she lived with TV. Yes, toby, she's right now, so he physically, he was very weak Bassem. So he couldn't sit with US daily. He sat with us on D. during session. Yes. Under solar stove without months he. Believed in the way. She take care of the body. And put it bear for. US. And giving. Luke chess on lighting books so he would give lectures. attend lectures. How often would that happen in in at the temple? I I think everybody every. Other Sundays. We heard that's I. Think I someday. Guy! And people came from outside and. Gave to lecture on Sundays. in the morning and afternoon I. Think Wonder was nineteen meetings. and He. You you talk about one Logan's likings show Gonzo Ginza, and so is this how you encountered? And because I'm wondering, does this emphasis on Zaza in, but then also you ride and have translated a lot of Dogan. So, ooh I started to study. At the university okay. was I study talking for four years. And I am the Anti. Ice I decided not to study anymore. Really because since I was a high school student until I Finish University I thought Fata. idead these idead what leading unthinking. Yes, so. I studied the practice at. I wanted to. quit that life. Yes, so I! Put all my books in the closet. On I not to read books, except Shoghi Enzo on free to. Access. So, you go I. Imagine what's to encounter the thing you've been studying about. Yeah. Oh so I had some understanding of dog and teaching. Fire I was a university student. But. After I started to practice dot com. I. I wanted to do activity practice that teaching, and was coach Yama encouraging of this, or did he want you also studying dog? What what was? He starts about this? He didn't encourage me to study organ Nah I was happy. Yes yes, wonderful, so I actually. Sat quietly for ten years Fast five UN Anton. On next five years advise Endel in Massachusetts. Yes, so. eternity for ten years I. Try not to study. We. Were you successful? Yeah. The best time with my. One of and this is very interesting to me because how you came to America and came to be teaching You know Zen to Americans. How did that happen where? I do Jemele shoe. Has the advantage a? I think. Lady from Massachusetts Northampton. Massachusetts! Visited until she. And she asked Jim Rush to come to United States. But, because he's not heresy bustling, he couldn't so he's sent one his disciples. My Dad's brother, whose name was short, Caracal and so hugh and do math. Northampton Massachusetts, yes. Practice he's. Young American people then a house. and. He practiced theat four thinks. ABOUT THIRTY S And, he'd he'd done to Japan. So on those suburb people contain to practice by themselves, so Jim Generous asked US real. His describes to join them and I was one of them. before you know that was our seventies. Anki seventies there are many West people came to Kyoto. Do Practice thin. so-called hippies so-called here. So I'm I'm wandering. You know so when you know coach. Yama, he changed things from the way he learned from so ocoee Roshii in terms of the strictness. Of course he kept the Zaza practice is same, but chain strictness and I'm wondering when you came to America and started teaching. What did you change? What did you keep the same from what you've learned from your teacher? One thing we couldn't do it teaching. Yeah because we are not macho, enough. I was twenty six or seven. We studied English Iowa. We Japan, but our English, not good enough to to teach. That in English language barrier. Night and also we. We bought A. Five or six? It got around in the with -Chusetts sits yes on. We only had threes. We as as We have even outwear water. We beat it as endo and He made Vegetable Garden and we had a dog aware. So, we had to do. How do I? It's a shame. That was no empty temple like so ACURA. She came across. From this? So that was part of the. How do you bring that into the practice I imagined? The building of the the new center becomes pot of Zen practice. How does how does that happen? Walking. Community you are look somewhere. Is. Very important part of sodas and practice from the time of Dogan. As a hero I about the wildly as attends O or cook in his writings, so lacking, the is really important. Part of assault was in practice, saw a walking, sitting weather practice, and a, but as endo, and your emphasis was on sitting anyway, so that suited quite quite fine right. Yes, so I enjoyed being there, just sitting, just working. With leading. But at some point you started teaching right, so that's that's a problem. You know. Even though I wanted to teach. All translation. Yeah You know on the Transportation Dorgan's writing. Who has the Monkey? Concentrated by. The whole muscle. So we. Studied that take east and the family finished. The monkey. We couldn't find any English thickest. English translation of dog in writing. So. Because of necessity I trans- today did though gains for guns I think. Or in Nevada recommendation dozen. That was my fast translation work, and is that the Dogan's instructions on how to Sit Zan? Was that yes? Yes. So that was a very important textile, people to have given the practice. You, yes, Onda I made that transportation on this. Might transition at least for studied timer. That how we studied to. Teach out of necessity, yes. Wow. And then and then I'm so interested in how things vote in terms of the teaching when Zen came when you're started, teaching in America needs things you changed. Will you getting? Will you? You know asking the students to? See All day with seven hours sleep. Is that your? Did you follow the same schedule yeah? Anti you is that we had ten session. But that the end endo, he had that twitter processing. Every month. Wow, because we. We are young. At Untidy. We didn't have session in February and August. Okay, 'cause it's took off until hot. Yes, yes, but in New England. we had Heating System. So. We have no excuse to not to have this in February. And it's not too hot in. So again into have us. Say To? Say it gets quite cold, but if you had heating, no excuse. And then would you give lectures on Sundays every second? Sunday something like that. Lecture about we had A. Discussion. Group I I give presentation in the beginning, and about my translation of considering and. We have discussion whose participants and what is it like to translate Dorgan he? He's non for being very poetic very difficult to understand. What's what what is it like to translate into English I? Imagine a challenge, but I imagine it's very satisfying as well. It's not so satisfying. Finished translating one day I think. I. Have Grad. Joey happiness, but At the same time I have a sadness. Was that because I? Know something is missing. On something Adi's added. Yes, on, something is twisted yes. So I know the difference between dog ends and my transportation. So, there's northbound. Ourselves actually never finished never complete. Do you think that that's just the nature of translation that it's always will be like that I think so you know I. Think. A perfect translation is not possible. Yeah, and so do you think it's important to learn Japanese? If you WANNA, lead re- Dogan for that reason, or is it? Is it not necessary that? Is that the one best way over studying doggone duty to to study Japanese undead, his writings in Japanese. But maybe sick on the best way is to lead many different translations and and compare. What is it about Durga? That captures you the most. where he's teaching his betty deep. philsopher carry and yet he's expressed signs ability Dick. So profundity and on beauty overdone ways a boss there. It's amazing just to have depth to add beauty. That's A. Problem for me I can. I can translate the meaning. I cannot translate a beauty. And power there. He's language, is it? Is there a Is there a passage that comes to mind? That epitomizes this depth and beauty that you could chat with us. Nobody you know an Thia? And that Gengis Cohen I think is the like a one point. And and he expressed his very deep understanding inside. Dharma saw. Why did he? And yet they. As like that needs to be beautifully tonight A. Poem. And Ginger Cohen was written for a layperson right? Yes, and it was. The whole of show begins, oh was that it wasn't written for a Layperson, what was the audience? I think Is Looking for are a possum, but probe desktop shogun. Return Fall! He's About the thing with him at his Australia. Because at the end of each school of his eight I put it in this to the. They got it. So, how does it differ? How does the advice for a layperson differ? Deduct change the way he's you know. He presented the Dhamma for lay people. This is the monks in the Tampa. was there a special special message for lay people? I think so. Fast, he's a fast whereas you was infects Aena Kyoto. Walking distance from that. And I think A. he had many day visas to break this study with him. But after he moved to. To establish From a very not so many gay people could visit him. So, he focused on its gate. Monk Disciples, and he had some kind of some kind of. December put disappointment. Teach to teach debut in the in the city. How come maybe they? People had some ex- X petitions because in Buddhism. Old, ladies six. Hundred Years History in Japan. Japanese. Buddhist has some expectation about. Ditching? Foot fat dog brought. From. From China was something very new. Oh, and how how would that different the expectation versus what dug in broad I think i. Was? Young and he's established established. He's Fast Morrissey I. Think they'll get expect those expectation if he president if he presented Authentic Daraghmeh. PEOPLE WHO Accent and support he yep. But he I property I think he found. For hard they own deeds into separate Buddhism. And what was that? Do think though the ritual side of things so Yeah, detroiters. Dr Freya for safety and peace, and we'll being of them the roofs and oversaw the piece of the nations. And also by supporting famous with these moustache and beating big temple can be. Express young their social status got it and so Duggan's emphasis on Zan, and and just sitting didn't fit with that expectation. Put over pretty, and what about you? Have you come Have you come back to studying or your your still continuing your years of of more just practice and not not study. Where is so fast? INDIA'S AT ANTI GENDER WORRIES Endo I. Try not to study on just the practice, but after. Five years. Leaving the? Advise Endo. My Body became hospital. I had to pay on my neck SORTA, and it'll a knee. was that from building the building the center from older building hot work? I think from hard work now, so we didn't have money to. get treatment. So I had to go back to Japan Gordon and so I couldn't do how God anymore I. I went about the Japan new Lewis asked me to on translation. Who of his American decide Brew Now? He's a name. Was that light? He the call today Dr off some books. So I started to. Walk, on, transportation of, gem losses on Dorgan's likings wisdom right? And I found that to translate I had to understand. For, the I'm translating, so I had to set to study, but his on Dogan. Again! What was that like? I had no choice because quote because of my physical condition I. couldn't you know for how this works so hard for now I was in Massachusetts so I have to. I WANNA give up my idea and The creative. To practice using this. What he undermined in the best way. And that is, do study on. Translation on seat as much as much as I could yeah. I imagine just like you can use building to be part of the practice. You can use translation to be part of the practice. Because I couldn't use my body anymore I have. My brain mind yes yes. After that after the means from my Armie Thaddeus, undead, today's Oh. About forty US I have been studying. translating jam does is. It looks at Oregon. Dog into thinks and I started to like my own books gratuity, and then what? What brought you back to America from Japan? Oh, I stayed in Japan about. It ever not twitter. We ears. At that time You Know Katie Dining Dorsey was up. Founder of MINNESOTA The may stations and Pasta way in nineteen ninety. And they that then setup practice is t Jefferson I've. On because I met. Cutler. Practice in Japan for about the Mansour Soul Kogyo. She student ask me asked me to come to teach for three years as interim teacher that fi decided to come again to this country. And then, and now does your work look like now a day to day? You're teaching and translating after teaching in Minneapolis. I had to move to California. To Walk for the. International Center. Founded by Salt Bush you've. Worked there for five years. But I always want to have my own center or temporal. and. We decided to have temple in Brin Bloomington. Indiana can't after walking five as in California. Decide to move to Puerto Minton. To practice here Inas more poor people we. Might Translation while I'm teaching. Up Sutton in my state, so people can come there and study than design with you there is that possible? Yes, of course you have bowl. You have many books as well. People can connect with you trio. Many books yes, so Yeah, I have Eight many books on light severe books my own books. Through those books you know many people who decide to come to roaming doing don't study with me on some some people become my disciples. I think. More than twenty people become my preuss. Ow, and now we have by about. I'm making preparation for. Well you do in your retirement. I will be released. Be Released. Duty as about teachers. But priority. I continued to a seat. translate and teach as much. I John Our I want, but it's not not because Oh my responsibility. Yes, well it. That sounds like a very meaningful life in it. It sounds like the kind of life you imagined when you first picked up the book self when you a six game. Yeah, I think so. I'm very happy that I did that book on. I decided to become you Chamula, she's. Disciple grew. And continued to practice almost fifty years. Wow, amazing well! I'm very happy that you agreed to come on the wisdom podcast and share your story with us. It's an amazing story and thank you so much for your time. Thank you very much.

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Zen Masters and their FU Money : Interview with Former Buddhist Reverend Gary Cocciolillo

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Zen Masters and their FU Money : Interview with Former Buddhist Reverend Gary Cocciolillo

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We're both very interested in these topics and my interest would talking Gary was finding out like what is his persuasion which does he believe in how much doesn't believe and and it ended up being me like kind of really grilling him and of course, I said it's like Oh yeah. This is me asking you. It's like me asking myself but. He was off academy just asking him right like. You know and I I WANNA know. But like the this gang cannot believe in stuff like. I mean you. You will know I've been very honest with you. I have no idea what I believe in but on entertain any idea he's looking for common ground a common denominator everything he does. you know. I didn't even do the intro today open loops intellectually escape as podcast for the escapist intellectual won't. You guys know what this is. Gary Gary speaks the same kind of language less escapist thought and more a you know investigative journalism angle. Looking for answers looking for relate digging into people but Thought, it'd be fun to turn the tables and in dig into his belief system a little bit on i. also happen to read his book on Gen Buddhism and Enlightenment get into his relationship with them here too so. It's fun interview. I had a great time Gary didn't because his episode Mommy and he did, but his episode is called revenge on Greg Bernstein. So. Check that out if you want everything imaginable but for now, what led him to want revenge on me it's all coming up this interview. Check it. Out. Oh. Here we go. Yeah. I'll just kind of go into. So yeah I mean before you know we necessarily, let's go into this Gary. Cacho Lillo. The man whose name. Probably people get wrong a lot I definitely listen to you pronounce it a bunch of times on your show Look Ladies and gentlemen that Gary who I have on today is he basically has the same exact interests that I do I mean as a podcast called in look as I was trying to come up with names for my show believe. Me Everything came up in my mind what could it be? Could the Ben's be more hypnosis because that's one of my huge interest could it be more magical by you pretty much nailed it with everything imaginable podcast for curious minds we're talking creativity, spirituality paranormal and more gary thanks for coming on the open loose podcast. Thank you for having me. Awesome. Awesome. Well, look you know it's very interesting I. Don't know what it is and I I guess I'm sort of curious today. You know I mean as much as you can listen to. George Noory and all these all these guys Richard Sarah all these guys that do these conspiracy and kind of paranormal podcast. I've always wanted to have the opportunity to interview them like what is it about these people that makes them do what they do how did they get into paranormal research and discount of I don't know if you call broadcasting journalism. So I guess we'll start with you, gary let's flip. Let's flip it around I. Mean You bring on a lot of interesting people now go into the type of guest you have in a moment but where did your interest with things sort of off beat develop? Definitely, when I was a young kid, those several several things that really got me interested. One was a TV show called. In search of Noah's hosted by Leonard Nimoy. And will talk about things like the Loch ness monster and bigfoot and goes ufo's and and stuff like that. that. Definitely piqued my interest in that type of stuff Is, far. As some of my like the Tarot and a cold that kind of stuff I remember as a kid My mom was from like this remote part of Pennsylvania. Went to go visit some family up there and she had an aunt who Tarot cards and it I just thought. This thing and You know that year for Christmas also I asked for for Christmas and I got it and and that part has always been you know interested in that area of Tarot and the coal and. Some of those. I think down there almost like taboo subjects because sometimes sittard you know almost like satanic especially down here where I live in the Bible belt in L. If people want right and Yeah and far as the paranormal the ghosts and stuff as another thing when I was young my grandmother had passed away and I had a paper out knows liver papers to. Almost. Like a abandoned factory where some guy lived in Ryan through the Park La and I saw my grandmother's sort of drifting across the parking lot and she looked over and waved at why Oh really. So you you've actually had a direct confrontation with. I wish I knew is that is that an apparition? Yeah it would. It would have been considered a full body apparition. Yeah. Wow. Wow and you're absolutely now have you see a person like me? I mean I definitely and this comes from. My background doesn't magician to sort of I guess I've kind of gone into this a little bit of the reverse way like I. Always had the curiosity as a kid. But then I really got into more of the kind of bunking mindsets especially in high school was watching a lot of Penn and teller's show be ass where they bunk a lot of paranormal stuff and was reading books by James. Randi. So There's a part of me that. Yes I do have that You know the truth is out there mulder and scully kind of hope like I have that it's doing the show I want to be convinced but I would look at something like that I think even now and probably search for every sort of explanation that seems scientific rational. Did you try to do that at all like what happened at that moment? I was a kid probably maybe eleven or twelve years old. So I really didn't have the capacity to really deep bunket. Her going home and told me my parents my parents like just shut up about. Big. Freaked us out and so I didn't mention it. Anymore. And now, it's really the only time like I've gone out on paranormal investigations to places that are supposed to be haunted. Yeah. Those places I'd never had anything happen. Wow, so your grandmother is really. You know the the proof of that kind of paranormal phenomenon to you. Do you would you say that have you ever I? Mean let's go into this. Have you ever seen a UFO? Have you ever had an experience? You'd consider psychic. Anything like that no I have I wish I would love to see you of Oh. Interesting interesting. So what does I mean? Do you does the grandmother thing really opened the door to you believing that there is stuff that is available and this at the supernatural level or or do you remain skeptical? I'll have to say to answer that is actually both I believe is very, very important to be objective. It not believe everything you see and hear. But at the same time, it's also important to be open to all possibilities because. Basically mean. Chances are if it's possible is happening somewhere. Right right. Right. Well, look I, mean you're doing an entire like me you're doing. A podcast. The everything imaginable podcast And you are exploring these different fields. I wonder when you started going into doing to type A show that we're good early doing right now what was your was your intention to experience more of that. No not really. Actually what happened was I had lost my job because Levine nineteen thing. and. Yeah Starting. Just feel kind of useless. You know I I'm a creator like to write books I played music. You know if I'm not doing something creative just tended. Not feel too well about myself. In, I haven't been into moods write another book because it's such tedious process. So when they always take a shower I said, you know maybe I'll just try starting a podcast and see what happens. Wow. Did you know it was going to be about this? Was it going to be about? Did you know it was going to definitely go into these sort of more abstract? Esoteric topics. Yeah I kind of wanted to go in that direction definitely because I'm pretty well read knows areas in has some experience in those areas and By talking with other people, I think like if I had a goal for my podcast, it'd be to find that common denominator Yeah for sure for sure. Yeah. I mean, let me just go through right now a little bit of some of the. Some of the people you've had so far I mean you've had an a norm paranormal investigators. You've had zen master, which is relevant to the the book you wrote that I read Marion Coleman Spirit medium. You've had a oh some of that I I actually have booked on going to do a show with her soon angie. Angie briars animal communicator bio therapist. I mean. People, talking about aliens. Oh my gosh dream experts I mean, these are all sort of they're. They're definitely taboo fields. In the sense that, yeah, you're not GonNa go into like executive coaching and start talking about dream interpretation in modern capitalist America. But I suppose tell me I mean you've had such a variety of different fields on your show already what sort of combinator common denominators have you? Abstract taken out for yourself so far definitely wanted things avoid primarily interested. That's why is conscious and imagination. That's why named the podcast everything imaginable. because. So much of our lives take place in the magic nation. And it's not necessarily real and a lot of our perception of reality. Laura, Ashley all of our perception of reality is matrix together by our brains. So I if I think for human beings, you know I mean we'd like to believe that we know what reality is but the truth is we have no freaking idea of Kierra. Yeah. Definitely doubt. And Wanted to comment us now. One of the most common denominators is with a spirit community make communicators, mediums, and and and even occultist. They all believe that that would communicating with spirits to believe that they're communicating something external from them. That is not part of their psyche that talking to. Kind of interesting. Have you ever I? Mean you know I the grandma your grandmother was the most tangible thing. But have you ever tapped into that? I have you know I read Tarot cards but you know I mean for me you know don't to spread a reading the meaning of the cards and and even with that I kind of look at it as. Nothing is rand in our universe. So if there's a message that you're supposed to know is going to show up there. If there's something you're not supposed to know is not going to show up. Yeah. Have you ever I mean have you ever had a reading that convinced you that there was actually power in the cards My in the cards themselves, cars have no power whatsoever The the the power is it is reality that we're living again because sometimes I'll do a reading in firstly. You know let's do it again and I'll do it again and most to save cars will just keep showing up over and over again. Oh, that's interesting. That's interesting. Yeah. You know I'm also curious about the line between is I know a lot of people in New York City where I normally live in non quarantine times that read Tarot but don't say they're mediums I know a lot of people that just read terror and they subscribe to some sort of form of WICCA. That doesn't mean you have to Tarot cards to be a wicked practitioner, but there's is a how do I put this? There is sort of like a popular new age pop sort of thing people have written about Biz in the last five, ten years about the way like it's sort of manifested people's religion. Now I read this great article one point about how astrology has kind of taken the substitute for religion especially among the millennial generation, I mean I don't know if you're here on. Any of these APPs Gary. But I've definitely downloaded the code star APP on the IPHONE which you put in your birth time you put in all the details, just the date and you can compare your friends. Exactly. You're astrological signs and compatibility and stuff like that, and it makes me I mean look I in a way disappoints me when someone tells me that they don't think they're a psychic and Tarot readings just because I'm like, Oh, I wish you were more even more interesting than I. Cars in every these cards Do you I mean? Do you consider? Do you think you will two things? One is that you know you you've delved into Zen So you have a whole book on it where on the cover actually enlightenment guaranteed is the name of the book. The only book on Zanu ever read by Reverend Gerry p Koch Lillo, caught and. I'm wondering. Do you look at yourself at all as having any. Sort of special intuitive abilities beyond what everybody would consider waking reality like mainstream would consider. No. I definitely do not have any type of. extrasensory perception or any type of spiritual authority. Definitely none of that. You know, what am I kind of my opinion almost in general is I'm not sure if anybody does. Expand on that I'm very curious. It also goes back to your idea of what par people tap into different parts of their imagination. and by doing that they're tapping into. A part of reality that not being physically PERC-. and. I don't know if that's actually a something that's limited. Certain Group of people I think is probably an ability that everybody has access to, and you know probably through certain methods of training can learn. Different type of skills like that like I've never gone out of my way to learn how to be psychic or anything because. I. Personally. Don't want to be a psych. One. I know cecilie thing I don't know if I want to know all that it's going on other people you know I would like to understand what is why why are we are in this reality and it kind of baffles feed a lot of ways because. You know one of the topics I'm really interested in too is quantum physics. I finding a quantum physicist podcast, the Holy Grail of guests. Right right. Right. Know not even. Near it. But but. In quantum physics is shows that. Matter is. By consciousness you know like if they shoot particles and is being observed the particles land one way and what is not being observed the react differently. Yeah. So quantum physics sort of shows that we're living in some type of. Conscious bubble. And because of that, you know that that's kind of just makes me sort of dismiss anybody that says, do you have any type of power because? It's just all consciousness. Do you think that that and this is you know just me also trying to figure out for myself? And you don't have to name names but is there anybody that you've interviewed either on your show or just in across your studies that you believe? Secretly, deep down as getting it wrong. Then you know what I mean like some of these people come on there like Media Mama I have this divine gift and I I you know I I think one of the interviews I just heard was with someone that the last one about the I think. was hurting the reluctant did she say she was locked you call her Kansas? Candice? Yes. The Reluctant Messenger and she even seemed surprised but hearing that interview. Yeah, she started hearing she started hearing voices and and even different I. Think she says like Gifford Planetary Consciousness at one point came through to her and to me with your idea of what quantum physics is in the idea of tapping into reality that we don't understand. I don't necessarily think candice is saying that she thinks of herself as something special but I do think there are a lot of people out bear come on these shows that are do you secretly think they're wrong? Deep Question. I know I don't WanNa blow your cover right now I could ruin my show two and three seconds. But you know what they're scammers there's definitely scammers out there sticking attention or trying to sell books Or? I. This is actually it's not a person that was on my show. It was a person. That I I I knew and wanted to some psychic. Expos with. And she she would claim to be a spiritual medium. and. She wrote like four or five bucks, and all of them had this extreme right-wing Ho phobic. and. There is just no way ballard because this was real spirituality there won't be no judgment involved. Yes. Yes. Yes. What is that? That is so crazy that there is I talked about this with another gas there is like a right wing bent to some of these spiritual practitioners as well as conspiracy theorists in general. You know I feel like there's a lot more in the right than the left. Of course, you could argue that maybe the left is just more. If you're counting, you know trump and Russia as a conspiracy certainly, trump would want you to think. So but you know I mean where does I I guess I wonder like how do you Christians? What is a psychic Christian? Have you met. L-. Have you met others? Are they bear? No? Just just the one that I've met. So barred and I think she was totally bogus. You know she was. Trying to push an agenda. I think a lot of this stuff comes from David Rick. Yes. Yes. Yes he Yeah he he's got some choice views about the world for sure You know way tell me about the psychic expo what was going on there? was I. think it was actually a paranormal expo have a lot of psychics and an paranormal groups all kind of meet up and it was open to the public. So the public could come in and and talk to different psychics and stuff like that and it was it was for charity. How many of those people would you say we're scanning? That's I know the one for sure. Your friend in quotes. Yes. But Allow them or legit too. So I'll say about seventy, five percent legit twenty-five. Bogus right. Right. Right and okay. So how about this and this is I'm just kind of. Asking you hard questions because they're just stuff I'm wrestling with all the time so. You know I just kind of want your view on it. I mean, what would you say to the skeptical person that goes there and get paid for reading from every single one of those seventy five percents that you say or legitimate and they give them I mean, do you think they're going to give that person similar things if they don't give them a similar kind of reading and they completely are off base one person says you're still obsessed over your mother's death. The other says you're having love life issues. I mean, what is what exactly is going on there? I think view fine A. Common Denominator you know, and that's exactly what I'm looking for in my guess is that common denominator the things that all this like excess or the same or more likely to be legit in Hawaii data? Say there's some stuff that had nothing to do with anything. Are Probably not. So you leave room and I I mean you know if you were I think the my problem with the entire spiritual. Thing or at least philosophically taking a step back is that. I really want people. I want things to be right or wrong which quantum physics and a lot of other overriding philosophies will be like, whoa man you can't have that the universe's all shades of the Rainbow You know it could be it could be anything. So my question then is this or related to psychics. Sorry. Going to circle back to what I was trying to point out I think the fact that it's so easy to fake being a psychic well and I really do believe this to me still philosophically poses a co-op problem. I. Mean That said, can you fake every job really well and does that diminish the person that? Is Good at it. I don't know but I suppose as a magician bettas studied cold reading and really kind of applied psychology as a way of making people thinking no more about them than you might actually no I question psychics in the sense that there. Do. You ever think there's kind of like a Oh this year, a geller used to do when he'd come on. You know he came on Johnny Carson Johnny Carson, switch spoons right and he couldn't bend them and he said, Oh, the spirits aren't with me today they're the voices aren't working. Do you think psychics ever give themselves too much of an out? Yes. Absolutely, you know. because. I especially like in intermediate ones that are on TV in looking for attention. The especially ones that asks for a lot of money kind of like like for example, like the Long Island. Million Lady. Actually charges like this ridiculous amount of money just it'd being the same room with her. I think if somebody is that spiritually connected. That money would be the last thing on our minds not. I. Wonder about the whole yes. Yes. That's what I'm wondering about the expo. How many of these people at the expo charging tons of money Ford? Together. Expo those was a charity charitable event and everybody was charged the same amount of money in that money just got donated. So nobody really made any money off. That's good. Hey, that seems rare because I think there's definitely a lot of psychics and commerce go together. I. Mean certainly in this culture I curious to see a land where you know someone with this higher spirituality that could tell you things about yourself was in charging you exorbitant amount to do it is that does that community exists anywhere? Gary. Where people are not being charged. For a psychic reading like, why are there any? Just. I mean generally got we asked you for Tarot reading. I'd never charge only except for when it was going to charity or something. But of course, you say you're just a regular guy yeah. Yeah. People claiming that they have something special offer, but they really just want to give it away for free. Yeah. I don't know because I think if somebody's claiming that the has something special. Rate. There is a sign of ego. I think if there's anything that blocks the spiritual world is ego. That's yeah. You know that I think there's a really natural transition to. Your book which is available on kindle and in Paperback Amazon. That's where I read it on my kindle enlightenment guaranteed the only book on Zen you'll ever need. Gary. This is it really quick read and you know less than one pages and it really. It really broke down. Pretty much be the essential zany ideas when you say in Lenin guaranteed I, mean how sincere about the time you me pretty sincere when when, when, I, got to the end of the boat. Because the the premise is simple just simply give it away is that everybody is already enlightened. And and and that enlightenment is just clouded by thaws in ego and desire eco-points. Do you see. The enlightenment is there that you know I it's a part of is who we are. Now. That's interesting. That's very interesting view. Because you know obviously yeah. You do kind of fight that in the book the idea that people think they have to. All of a sudden like likelier in synchronicity with the universe, everything is manifesting the way they want it sitting under the Bodey tree the sun is shining your directly affected by its raise. Holding hands all that stuff. Love. What are what kind of enlightenment? Are Those people practicing first of all those people actually real like these like Dalai Lama. Type. Guru types that exist on this plane like what is exactly going on with those people. I think the Dalai Lama is definitely a valid spiritual teacher. Cool I have gone to see him in New York at the I. Think it was at the beacon? Theater. We saw and Yeah, definitely something they're not been around certain monks to like. They have something and I'll certainly the people that that that I I believe our Ardabil spiritual are typically the most humble Yeah. There's a connection between. Humility spirituality if somebody's pushing an EGO. There's just not they're not. They're not. They're you now. because. You know. Main premises of Buddhism and. Zen is that there is no self. and if there's no, there's no ego and if you're out there pushing some kind of ego thing that right away de legitimizes. What you're teaching Are you enlightened Gary Absolutely, not. Am I are well, you said, we all are away we are in a way. Yes. We all have access to it, but I mean. I think it's fleeting. IDEA. I'll give you the best example I use my book to I learned from. A monk named tree may as you talk about The gap and what that gap is is the space between thoughts. Between thoughts, there's an empty space were absolutely nothing is a blank canvas is completely pure. And devoid of of EGO. And asked the enlightenment and when as part of Verite Shit sitting down focusing on the breath and becoming you know I become aware of your thoughts you can't fight them fight them the more you're gonNA think because. Dulling your thoughts to leave is thinking. So it doesn't necessarily work, but he's going to have to relax and breathe and. I try to be aware enough to experience some of those gaps. Fires a permanent. State of Bliss I. Think Does Crap. Right, right right. We'll tell me I am kind of curious. Then did you actually have What was what is the I? Think you go into a little bit in the book but you're an ordained zen priest for Maurie. Oh. How do they take that away? Yeah I was defrocked. Why wait a minute so This is, this is where are getting really juicy. How did that happen? Walk me through this story. It was just a money thing. You know they're trying to put some squeeze me from money. You know you know I think some of these guys are just being led by EGO and. So, wait a minute the organization that you'd be ego bliss. Yeah had too much ego. So then you got defrocked. Now is that the ultimate then cone? Could be. I. Think to me the most zen thing he can do. This is so interesting. You got the fogged first of all who gets the frock these days that's fascinating. Wait a minute was this. Now we're you what is the process beyond paying to become a reverend? Did you have to spend hours meditating? Does one become a reverend we had to? We Meditative had to do. Co On work with a teacher. And a bunch of online classes I had to take, and then at the end of the online classes finished with them, you're supposed to write a thesis. And that's how the book about the book was my thesis Oh and I submitted it. And and he shouted down. Don't like this book. Why didn't you like it? He didn't say. Like you guys start over. Screw this. Wait a minute way man. So did you. I'm trying to figure out where the reverend part fits in the timeline. So you after you wrote was the book to become the Reverend already or Dade. Try, to become like a zen teacher I guess it would be and then you wrote this book and they took it away and also you didn't pay now they didn't take away I I. I'm joking when I say defrock At that point it was just like there's something wrong here. Right right I guess do Franck meaning your disillusioned your you in a way you woke up but that's Okay. So you read this was there anything like what if he let let's play out a couple of scenarios. Let's say you didn't have to keep paying, but he didn't like the book still. Would you have still? Self defrocked. Interesting. So what if he did like the book and you had to keep paying? Would you? Talked wow interesting interesting defrocking folks. Because I think now looking back at defrocking is the only true way to zone. Yeah. That is interesting. That's the only way to be eager Lewis is to. Let go absolutely everything. All ideas of self identity. So identifying as a zen teacher or Zen, monk I'm contradicting everything I say. Yeah, yeah, you know that's also. Bullshit right right. Right now, I mean I, definitely I think about that with regards to. What you read in traditional literature about. I think it would be so hard for me to do it because if I were to go in there, I already know that music going to this. I mean I feel like this is the trope. This is the Cliche trope you go to his end master. The you start asking about Zan they reject evolution you're talking about and they tell to go lift an extremely heavy rock and move it across the way, and then you come back and you're like, okay. Now are we gonNA talk about sending the Guy Goes? No, go move the Rock, and then you never talk about Zen with this master for months and then like. You just move rocks every day for sixty ninety days, and then maybe the Zen master will drop some Cohen and and make you think about it something more and then you have to go do more menial tasks and I'm sitting there going like, okay I've read this. So now I know if I'm GONNA, go to one of these places and have this master start. And hitting me with a stick and all this stuff that has nothing to do with it I'm already like I get it. We don't talk about this thing to get me to this thing but now that I already know that like what are you GonNa, do buddy I already know your secrets I already know we're not talking about zen to then like how do we? How do you break me out of it? Like is there? It is almost like a cliche in pop culture at least in these books to you know Zen isn't Zan right I mean I, I wonder how you overcome that in twenty twenty. I don't know you know I think. We mentioned why he didn't like the book. I think one of reasons he be now like the book is. Is a part of the book where I talk about. You know attacking a teacher. And I say that life is teacher. Roy needed teacher. Because life is always teaching us what we need. And he wanted to be the teacher. On my Gosh Gary. So so that may have been one of the things that. We write a sequel about defrocking. No. I think you should I think you should name names do a tell. All Zen. You know there's not enough I had to say. I. Don't feel like there is enough stripping away the the EGO Kinda reads in. Spirituality like there's a lot of there's a lot of. Books for sure bringing down God but. It's Very few take on probably because there's not a lot of money in it. debunking these kind of structures of ego that people have imposed as a way of sharing the message of spirituality. I mean, is everybody just looking for hope is everybody just trying to buy into the ideals alike, why? Why can't we have more people willing to tell the truth about what's actually going on with some of these ego filled spiritual teachers. May because. I think people like to have the answer handed to them and a true spiritual. person. WHO's. going. To Be No better that. Knows teacher can give a person the answer you know, we all have to find our own answers ourselves. We all have to do our own work. And everybody I think also is on a different path. You know there's no one solution. That fits aw Yeah. I think that's the message that people don't want to buy. Yeah No, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely, right? Yeah. I don't even know I mean if I were to. I. Looking at Your List Imagine I'm looking at your podcast list which I am right now and looking at which of these practitioners of healing and which modality I would want to go to help. May I don't even know I would want want to be the right answer and I have no idea I mean if you want to know what the right answer, Ladies and gentlemen, you should listen to the everything in imaginable podcast maybe five something there. But you know I mean, what would you tell someone that is like seeking? Okay I guess how do I ask this part of the question I? WanNa. Ask you is. If someone came to you and said Gary I wanNA see one of the people that you've talked to I don't know who it's going to be but I feel like someone there could help me. Would you pitch any of those people to that friends seeking? No would really. I'll ask them to go through listen to. Convent that I have out there. And pick what resonates with them. interesting interesting. Do you I mean? I'll I'll be honest I at this point don't necessarily for variety of reasons financial being the main one actually I guess that may be the only one but I I don't really foresee myself necessarily like going to every single life coach I have on every single Tarot card reader and getting a reading like I. don't see myself necessarily doing that but I will entertain and learn from them whenever I can Do you. I mean has there been anybody so far in the time you've interviewed that you're like, that's a service I actually would like. Nobody has offered me the service I mean I did have onto my friend, a friend of mine's wife. As this she's an astrologer and she did do a chart for me for free as part of the podcast. Was Pretty Cool But most of the people that I talked to just selling books. And? I don't mind buying somebody's book because I know how much work goes into writing a book. I. Is A bad book. It's still takes to ride it. Oh so Yeah. Yeah. So I don't mind doing that. I think dream coach would be goal. I I kind of have an issue maybe a little bit with life coaches though. I'm just so skeptical I, mean to me it's almost like the government you know like, why am I gonNA? Give somebody my money so they can tell me what to do You know I feel similarly about the government is like I don't really understand why people pay so much attention to government because like why are you going to do gonNa take your money until tell you what to do no matter who you vote for. Right, are you That's interesting. Are You living off the grid Gary? No. You just Well. Here's what I wonder that you know you so far. Aliens are the closest that you've gone to conspiracy that I can tell. On your show do you do you play around intellectually with conspiracy theories at all you entertain bats. I used to always say. Fifteen years ago before the conspiracies, all became political propaganda. But now not so much 'cause. I'll say at least ninety percent of it now is just political propaganda you know yeah but I used to like the old school. Conspiracies you know like the area fifty, one stuff. One of the things that got me interested in that was used to work at. Bell Labs. A when I was, there was a guy who you know it, all science is working on. Developing a fiber optic technology and like that and back then smoke and I was outside smoking a cigarette and he told me that he you know. That the technology fiber optics and Silicon chips came from a recovered. UFO. In that he used to work for NASA. was. He did he know that firsthand? Like was he working? So he says he did yeah, he said he was working on. At brushed it off as be yes. Do just tell me a story and now save maybe a year or so later, I came across the Bob Lazar Story. Yeah. Maybe actually told me the truth. Oh my gosh now. So yeah, I've seen the Bob Lazar I mean the documentary was great. Listen. To the Joe Rogan podcast I haven't read the book that came out in the last year about him but does he so he corroborates a lot of what your friend was saying about the technology yeah. Interesting. Conversation casual he's very open. You know. Those secrecy at all but he was old to maybe. Have you any in your conversations with people that have said that Dave. either senior F os war being involved in any way. Have you been other? Have you ever been convinced by anybody else's testimony. One. Yeah, anybody tie everybody tells me these see you'll follow. I. Have to kind of believe it. Because you are real phenomenon news unexplained. Yes. Even, the government which we don't trust says they are yeah there's just too much of it now to say it's not real. You know now what are the UFO's is a whole nother story alley. Is. Government made aircrafts is. Something from another demand, shoot and You know some type of concentrated A. There's so many possibilities of what these things could a. Yeah. I've never I don't know if you've seen that Steve Greer documentary just came out. Oh my gosh at the beginning of this whole thing. I think it came out in April maybe close encounters of the fifth kind kind of speaks directly to what you're. You've talked about with regards to quantum physics. Dr Steven greer talks a lot about how. You can meditate on seeing UFO's and wanting to make contact yourself, and then he leads retreats with people that are similar to what I imagine happens on a zen retreat they go out into the into nature and with a group setting everybody concentrates and then they. In. That's what's great about close encounters of the fifth kind on Amazon you can see that it's it's documentary you can get on Amazon like Gary's book. You could see that there's something going on every single time. These people get together like unless you really think this Guy Dr Steven. Gerrard. Doctored the footage which I personally don't think he did. You see something something arrives in the sky every single time and who knows is an alien not sure but they're bringing something forward with their minds I mean, do you think that sort of fits into your belief system if I? Could be disabled paranormal to or ghosts and stuff like that. It's. You know just could be good exists because people have people is this aim room? The. Same. Right, right right. Do you think energy you? What about like a situation where you go into a place that just feels like there's dark energy around it not even necessarily from the people that have. That are there in the present do you think people leave that kind of energy when even when they've gone away? And I guess I don't mean goes I mean like like if everybody assumes this place paranormal and there are spirits there even if there aren't. Say. Then you know then they clear out this airbnb that's haunted the next weekend, a new group of people come in bright and sunny but they feel there's dark energy there. Other experience too. So I really don't know I've walked into places and been like something's going on here something feels but I don't necessarily see go store have anything that leads me to believe it supernatural it's just the energy feels I would say, probably the dark is was place I've ever been. There's been abandoned. Insane Saint Asylum. Where I lived in New Jersey and had a morgue. Ah. Base in. It felt pretty dark. You. Know How much? Of that is just my psyche because program to. Eight right now, that's very true to of if there's anything on your show that you've you've exports and that you're hoping to explore that if you were to have a guest come on and thoroughly explain, Hey, that's why this supernatural thing works and then they're like actually Gary let me show you and you were to experience this thing in it felt real and all of a sudden you're like, wow, now, I believe blank exists now I can one hundred percent say this is a real thing. This is as real as all the psychics and new eight people have said it is. What would that thing be? The hassle. OFFICIAL PROOF ABILITY DREAM COME Really. Your drink manifesting your dreams. Yeah. To me just be like amazing you. Know. You know wanting to see bigfoot you know. It'd be the coolest thing ever. So that would be no wait a minute is that your dream like if someone could right now be like I have bigfoot let me show you would that would that be your dream come true or would have would having your podcasts be like a multimillion dollar enterprise that you never had the work another typical job again would that be the dream like what is sort of what would you like to have come? True. Both. Were a border bigfoot or the podcast big. We gotta figure out right now. Bigfoot the big one for you is being. Go I'd probably go before you. Oh my gosh. Wow. I could money and all that stuff. It's all going to. Die Anyway so. Yeah. That's very enlightened physician to come for bigfoot. I've never been Q I. Mean I'm curious by these things. Maybe it's just because animals in general. I sort of have like. Yeah. But look at the human experience at so much. It's so interesting I guess maybe that's my narcissism or just wanting to know more about The power of humanity animals in Crypto zoology have never been as compelling for me necessarily with regards to this Esoteric Alternative Realm. What is it about bigfoot that really stays with you Well, there's been so many sightings and tracks an pitchers. And we still don't know I think knowing the mystery you know I think there's something really. I think just in general with humans is is idea of looking for things that we don't know. And Yeah, you know it's. So many theories out there what bigfoot is is an alien zero multidimensional being. I recently had a guy on Here's native American his name was topsy would. And his theory was that a big. Is. They're they're human beings? Just gave up, they want to be a part of society when lives out in the wild it evolved into what they are. Now that's interesting. I was about to ask you what your favorite you know as we're wrapping what your favorite. bigfoot fact is and all the things you've read about bigfoot like what is the most if someone was like? Okay. Tell me something interesting about bigfoot that really like keeps you hooked on it do you do you would that be it? Would you learn from Tom or would it be something else? That's really interesting. I mean open all possibilities. And I think the thing that got me interested in it was Tom, paterson video of him. Now back the kids like watching in search over his first time. I. Saw it. And is any of the video legit. What is that? is at the most legit footage of it like his own thing. So yeah, because we didn't have CGI is pretty clear. Is definitely not a gorilla suit. Tom Paterson Okay I'm going to have to look that up later. Wow very interesting, Gary. Well, look everybody. You should definitely listen to the everything imaginable podcast available on apple that's where I. Tunes podcast. Buzz sprout I believe it's on all the platforms will link to it for sure and get the former Reverend Gary. Get his Book Former D. Book he got rocked officially enlightenment guaranteed the only book on Zen. You'll never knew about the only book on Zen you'll ever need available on Amazon Gary Thank you so much for being on the show openly. You've stimulated my mind. So that's all that matters to me. Ultimately, I very selfishly doing the show but hey. I love talking to interesting people and definitely Yeah. You've definitely kept my mind open to what else can be out there. Awesome Great. All right. Thank you take care and hope to chat with you soon you too. Thanks. Have a good one. Well, there you go. That was former. Zen Reverend Gerry. defrocked stripped out You know they they took away his beads. Assumes that masters have beads. I also learned this episode that it's pronounced Cohen or co on, and I pronounced it like you know the you're Jewish nick or neighbors of course but. Who cares you know when route keeping it in because even as I re religion to the episode like of the beginning religion and got to the end. It was a learning curve for me. So thank you gary for coming on. Thank you for opening my month. The possibility that bigfoot is still out there Lana stuff covered Meta, separate, those those kind of Kooky, all over the place That's why I do this show. That's why Gary does his and let's hope we can keep making this kind of content for their. Latest, gentlemen this has been open loops and intellectually scape his pod cast. Please go to apple podcast like subscribe Aleve Review. Very. Grateful. For All of you to listen I. Hope All of your wildest dreams come true and look outside grandma might be there still toxin.

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The mysterious/unsolvable Zen Koans - Henry Shukman, Associate Zen Master

The Kevin Rose Show

1:31:31 hr | 6 months ago

The mysterious/unsolvable Zen Koans - Henry Shukman, Associate Zen Master

"Everybody Kevin Rosier. Welcome back to another episode of the Kevin. Rose show really excited that you hit play on this one because it's a really deep dive into Zen Zen Cohen's which these fascinating little riddles that are used in Zan. The secret little riddles that are used that can sometimes trigger enlightenment. It's kind of a question and answer type riddle that I. Think you're just GonNa find a really curious fascinating. It was It's actually how I I heard about Henry. Who's our guest today Henry shook men I was on. Sam Harris's meditation APP called Waking Up, and there was a new course about these coins, the seven or eight part course and I dove into it and the really short run ten minutes length and I just listened to every single one back to back found them really fun little brain teasers but but they're not they're really difficult to describe. So I guess what I'm saying right now is make a whole lot of sense but stick around for that part of the conversation we also go really deep on enlightenment trying to. define. It the best we can, what is enlightenment? What is this state of mind that certain people achieve and I think Henry does a great job at explaining that for those of you don't know Henry he is an associate zen master at the mountain clouds Zen Center based in Santa Fe New Mexico. He's also the author of a new book one blade of grass. Finding the old road to the heart which I've started listening to and I think is just fantastic. It's really an honor and pleasure to have them on the show. This is Henry Shipman. Been Reading your book I'm about three years away through it now and I've found it's funny. Our paths to meditation are actually very similar. I started with transcendental meditation as well. And then I went on to study at the San Francisco Zen Center over on page street. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that location, sure would have been a yes. That was just a few doors down from my house was very lucky to live. So close and It's shortly thereafter. I? Didn't keep up the practice and only returned to it more recently but I'd love to kind of how your your book covers I'd love to talk about the path that led you to meditation I like many. What really got me meditating in my early to mid twenties was sort of misery you know I was a PhD student at the time and kind of wasn't getting anywhere with my thesis. And I also had had a lifelong chronic ailments of the skin, Xm. And It had enough she since six months old and I had brief respites but in a basically it hadn't lastly since. I was just. Getting more royal unhappy really and feeding you know. More Mo- hemmed in by life and unable to. Kind of figure out how to live. Productively which I knew was possible because I had done it times in my life. Early life you know. But. Anyway. I decided through essentially the. Encouragement of a couple of friends to try meditating and it was ti and that was the. Primary game in town in London back back in. Back. Then in the main late agents. And the Beatles. Had made that pretty pop of their right back known for doing transcendental meditation. Actually. That was that was I think probably in America was. Deepak was famous by that, but he was flagship HMO or I think in America. And worldwide, the Beatles were. Yeah. They went to receive cash. Three months or something and. Mid late sixties live with Maharishi. The, you know they. Had A it was. Kinda legitimized as a thing to do they actually at the time they was sending as A. The tagline was a life tool for the busy. So it really wasn't about. You. Know being flake and and dropping out and stuff it was it was more how to be more efficient in your nice and so. You know I being complex psychology. I think you know it's a lot of shame stuff probably. In part out of that. Whole extra experience chronic in a trouble of that kind can do when you when you say that. I. Want to stop for a second because in your book you go into great detail about when people think about accident I, think a lot of people think oh, he'd probably have a hand rash or something like you know you you had full-on like whole body phase like bleeding knuckles like it was really really quite bad was a non yes. Correct I mean I was in a hospital as a kid. it was it was really a it was when I think about it you know it's been perspective not having really touched would had it for Quite a while. I you know there's a lot of pundit like why how come? That's what my first two and a half decades in a when really mocked by wanted do and I mean I think that that is certainly one of the drivers of WAG, into meditation. And and the. The psychologist associated with it as well. and. It was almost immediately apparent the doing. Diligent, daily regular meditation. had a huge impact by the time I actually started starting to sit regularly like that. I had no idea how exhausted rattled. I was and how Almost, you know worn out by nervous system was. And I just slaps in literally the first week I. Did it I slept twenty hours a day when the that's just no exaggeration that's what I must have. Felt fine. An off to literally seven nights of You know I would I go to bed Seventy noble our sleep all the way through. You didn't like eight am get up. Get dressed. Get ready to go out to college in. Studying and stuff. And I just. Slammed by this wave of fatigue. and. Soda. Stagger up back up to ben I need a little map. Going, have to miss closed or whatever. and. The next thing I know be one o'clock. Lunchtime. And I had I. had a series of days like this and then and then finally you know on the seventh day whatever it was I gonNA. And I did my streets. Breakfast and I felt claims about I. Feel. Like I lost. Some number of years I was I was like. A A Everything's such trash live. Sweet. Even in London. City streets. which is so fascinating. And like as if the just been created almost it was it was A. Marvelous thing. I need this I'm not gonNA stop. You know and and so I did. Actually. Gradually, my momma started to unwind it was. Experts a complex condition is not just. certainly, not just sort of psychological is not just psychosomatic, but it has. Does a stress factor Fischel in it. there's probably diet traders allergens. Into Complex web of things, but taking out the stress piece or at least the you know the over activated nervous system. And the exhausted of novices taking that out of the equation. WAS OPENING FULL A kind of domino affects I. Guess of. A just learning how to relax learning how to be in the moment. Without, anguish and that somehow changed. The kind of environment in which the extra. Previously flourished. You know it's sort of. You know I think it would like an ecosystem the but changing the ecology in one mejet zone other pieces, change it, and one of them was excellent just Kinda. SORTA. became less relevant for something and and sure enough. It just started get better. It wasn't like a straight line growth but. You know the next ten years, it was substantially gone. How deep did you go with transcendental meditation because you know when I took the courses like a three day initial course you know it's a decent amount of money. I think at the end of it. I I. Thought. It was worthwhile. But at the same time, the concept of just repeating a mantra is it's pretty easy to grass and. I kind of went off and just practice. You know they tell you twenty minutes in the morning and twenty minutes in the evening I did that. But then they started offering an pitching you you know more advanced classes and did you go deeper with the Tim Organization or was it just that kind of initial training that you did? Yeah I just did the initial one thing that made it easier for me to do was that they will offering a tremendous discount for graduates. I wouldn't have I. Think I. Probably wouldn't have done it if it had been. You know really expensive as it. I, know it Coleman the age but I was really you know dogged about twenty minutes twenty minutes evening they really drummed that into a second you want doing that you weren't doing it. And so I just I just did it. Religiously. But I didn't have. You know upgrade I. I was getting what I felt I needed. So speak you know nights. I once went to do a weekend sorta retreat. They had a series assist grand old country houses around Britain. Good. They were tremendously wealthy organization as far as I could gathered. So I went down to one of these prices and the they would talking Abou. Theory behind it. Different levels of consciousness and I I should I just wasn't interested than when I look back on it is and seems a little old in a way that I wasn't interested because. and. One thing I had mentioned yet about how how, and why going into meditation. was also something else which was. When I was nineteen years old during one of the breeze sort. louds in. Xm. When ours away far away from home I shall to kind of gap in between school and college and I went and worked on a couple of firms and travel back. And I wrote my first book. And at the end of that journey. I. Underwent suddenly randomly out of nowhere. Quite, kind of powerful. What I would now cool awakening experience of the time I had no idea what it was I just knew the. Somehow Matt Amazing, way, my license. Suddenly being fulfilled was what it felt like that guy discovered. This whole other side to my existence the. Had not been a troll of power before. which. I had not really in a sense. Any interest in you know it wasn't like I'd be looking I I just suddenly soda. Kinda just. End To this. Completely different. Sort of sense of things where it was all just one it was it was a single. Marvelous fabric, which was what I really was I was. In inextricably, pond. Know this happened. Just, really just added. No, and this was premeditation and do right. You had meditated yet and and you're believe from the book you're on a beach at a time, right? Yeah. That's right. That's right. I was I was actually. I was studying. I was you know grew up kind of A. Somewhat of an academic. Literary aspirational guy in a might parents with US professors at Oxford in which is what I grew up in a I I was. into poetry. That was my kinda thing that I latched onto an literature languages while. And I I was I was studying and that kind of looking at stuff I guess and I was studying. The movement of the sunlight over the water as it was Kinda late afternoon. On this beach and I was I was noticing these scales of you know if you look at it. In a flash I would've. said. Wow. You know. Does it kind of? Caused bright light underneath the sun on the water but when I really look closely i. Will Know is these moving scales of light? that a really really bright but. Anyway the scale a scale is not so to speak the wilder is totally black and it just it A. Surprise me to see that zinc. Well, what color is the wizards it is it really bright isn't really black on that washes transparent actually is in any. Kind of. Just a processing this. Reality? steria. In I think it will hold on. Walsh's transparent but so he's So. This surface is just. To kind of invisible mediums of media meech is it's Clear clear and yet it looks back. Let's blindingly. White. What's going on? You know and who am I seeing it? I was I was just sort of. You know investigating the the immediate experience in as A. Of Interested Party. To. Suddenly. Stopped being something I was looking at. Instead. I became it I mean. I know. It sounds we're talking about especially early not compensation. Of Gone off the deep ready I, hope to hold it back a bit but anyway. The in suddenly basically, it was lights finding what I was looking. Wasn't separate for me. It was as if. We were just one phenomenon. When that suddenly. Showed yourself that way. Almost immediately was. Everything. Was this one. Phenomenon and. You know what that does seem to be. Basically. A nothing it was. You know it was. It was it was really a very careful note you know for me. It's crazy that this happened you without any because at this point, you hadn't really had any proper. Discipline, experience in in any type of meditation or any release spiritual type of. Venture at this point is, is that accurate to say? Yeah. Not I zero nineteen at the time is that right? Yeah it was nineteen. A wasn't. Mushrooms or anything like that. Absolutely not I I had. You know I'd drugs and beer in A. Van I mean my life. I was right I'm basically I. had no experience of significant intoxicants had. No interest in anything kind of mystical spiritual. I was. A rationalist and. But. Why did this happen I know? I felt I finished my book a actually written a book in nineteen years old and that was pretty thrilling. That was definitely a kind of peak experience element here as a sense of. Accomplishment and I I think I also have this unbelievable relief. Of Not having excellent you know that it was it was amazing to me just to Luca my hands and and they were healthy in this beautiful smooth skin it was my body will vote was smooth it was in that in itself was kind of A deep deep, Joel and. Massive release and. Somehow you know this, this was some Kinda. Again when I look back in I I, don't really understand. Quite. How? and. Why? Whenever coolest I do know that. in the role that I'm now in in a as a meditation teacher. Especially in the school meditation, the acknowledges this kind of experience I know that it happens. You Know I. It's not that I think is especially common. To have kind of somewhat deep experience. Is Not is not as rare as when my sink and it's just the for look people could do happen to have some random mum lightness. Somehow, and this is actually what happened to me than lights doesn't. Help them. Know what to do about it if you see what I mean? I was in that category what? I know you know. In a red like Echo Tony's sort of. Experience on a bench in London and his another great example is someone that really didn't have well was close to suicide. Had, this epiphany breakthrough experience, and then had to spend kind of years figuring out asking like what the hell just happened to me. You know and how do I reckon with what this this? Revelation was if fascinating, how how could be a path as well like it seems like the most common path you read about as people that have dedicated their lives to a really strict discipline of some type of meditation or contemplation, and and then eventually they get to glimpses of this. But then there's the other side of the coin that has just these spontaneous moments and then you know I think ECKERD's case. It's more last are less lasted for for quite a while and he's been able to hold onto that. Not that he's trying to hold onto but it seems like it's stuck around in your case it was a couple of weeks right and then things more or less went back to normal. A little worse than that. It was a couple of weeks of maybe along then I went home and I completely tanked i. had a minor breakdown. and. So. Then it was. You know several years before I would ever. Maybe before I. Found my way to. A regular practice the. The Didn't really address that moment, but it certainly addressed the long suffering. And it probably could have addressed that book. But I wasn't apparently interested. Until a little bit later when I was. In several years of regular T. M. as. In. My life was kind of on an even Keel I had. A Korea going I was. You know. Steadier. Happy, human being at that point. I. Kind of. Bumped into Zen. And Just happened to. Hit Zana's angle where. It was clear. Somehow the tradition is at understood exactly what I experience on the beach that was very exciting because it was the first time. I realized. Wow. It wasn't random in does on a people who've known about this, whatever that was. And not only that but as. People. Who knew not on his dedicated themselves to kind of getting to know better. And maybe even lying live it. That's what Eye Account in needed was a disciplined. Cost Training, the could allow me. Frankly to experience more you to have more experiences that will in some ways deeper. It wasn't that was only as starting point many gateway. And this And and but but more importantly pass to learn how to actually integrate this kind of thing. So. You know it's not just a flash in the time. But. It's something that can become. Place we are live from. An and you know that's that's why I. I got. A trusted Zen and that became my primary my only way primary positive practice. Before we get into Zan 'cause I really WANNA dive in and go deep on. Then I did WANNA touch really on on tm again. TM, I would say as an organization so when I started practicing. They. I don't know if they did this back when when you first started learning but they had this, you know kind of ceremony and the secret word and. That they would give you that was your mantra and I would later go up on the Internet and find out that everyone secret word is the same based on your birth year and I, looked it up online and sure enough there. I, found out my friends secret word told him his and you're not supposed to tell anyone. And there was actually a documentary on tm that I saw that his sense been banned in the United States, they threatened lawsuits to to block it. A link to it in the show notes if anyone wants to try and find, it's a in order to overseas but I watched that documentary and the organization itself. Well, I'll say two things one I think that the practice of mantra meditation is obvious sound one and it's one that has existed way before tm. So the idea of using a mantra to meditate with obviously works you let the organization. ITSELF TM I, I have a little you know. I'd I'd pause around some of the things that I've I've heard. Is it? It is. Tim. Something that you still recommend certain people have you heard similar things that will what are your thoughts on I mean we don't have to go badmouthing and organization, but did you ever have any concerns around that at all? You know I I, left it before a gum. Anywhere near the HOB hobble heart of it if you know what I mean so I I kind of, but when I what I know about it now. You can do. Zen for nothing literally nothing you can get have welcome to show up at an indirect cost. You leave five bucks you want in A. Has To. And The to put this Haibat dire of you know you can't do. X.. What was that money that collecting her I don't know I. I have A. Little bit of a visceral sensitives unease you know around. Too. Much money I mean, I don't know I didn't know what to say exactly in a should we be making money from? From spiritual things in you know it's happened a lot in human history, the power wealth Any any. I suppose ritual oganization. GET SCALE UP Is Probably GonNa have to reckon with money you know one way or another. So it's not intrinsically bad but the something about. I didn't know that was that was an Apache about the organization's well the. House will open is an it was soon I, gotTa send you the documentary you have to watch it. Is definitely something that is really eye-opening and I mean in the in the more advanced, it sounds like you dodged what they were trying to invite me into, which was the more advanced training Roach on the advanced training side, they literally try to teach you how to like levitated and fly. Yeah. I know about now. Yeah and there's It's just It's it's definitely something to watch. But yeah, on on the on the front how you know so many things everything every every whole foods t I'll has the words Zan blasted over you know. It's such a common word. These days is just like it people don't even most people don't even think of it as a practice that just like describing relaxation. Can can you describe to people what Zen is? How was founded how you got involved in it? Like I think just a little overview it'd be great. Yeah. Well I mean in terms of what we know in the West let me just stop there with I think we have to point out right back that there are different kinds of zen practice and has two main different kinds gets. But basically you know broadly speaking zen is a strand of Buddhism. Most people would agree. The that emerged in its particular shape foam that we still not really today in China. You know roughly first to fifth century see. It's it's simplified compared to many other foods of Buddhism is simplified in the sense that. Actually. You don't have to really believe anything the excuse believe in cantons of different goals. You don't have to believe in any God who is very stripped down their bones. It's really about the sitting. But it's also about. I mean, again hit, this is where the two main forms a slightly different to one another one lane fool which actually is the San Francisco Center would be in his Soto. Which tends to be. A bit more ritualistic a knitter. And you know. The way you can pull yourself and. The way you sort of do things in Zenda row. Yeah I remember I had to enter with my right foot. Is that right? When you stepped into this like you, there's a foot you have to enter with and it's very formalized in that way. That's right. That's right and and then there's another line known as rings which. That that may be client which article in some cases but. In the line that I made, which is cool. Sambo's Zan as actually sort of a hybrid incentive both of them in in a way. But really what it is, is kind of even more stripped down. Sort of. Secular doesn't really think of itself as religious, but it has this big piece in the training for those it. which is on the reside comes from the rings us, which is about Coa CH. And this is where it really has chosen to what we were talking about a moment ago that wasting and we'll add stuff because. CONAN's They're really you know sort of weird an unusual and strange, but brilliant message full. Helping us. Come to glimpses like I had when I was nineteen. In, mood deliberate and you know likely to happen not just to kind of runs. But you know really. Training with a Cohen. Can Bring on this kind of thing. Not that they're. Even, move anybody in a sense perhaps for some me was that. They offer training beyond that. It's all about how what do you do then? Know just Kinda go back to because usually for people these experiences they happen and they kind of received you know they of close up again and went back to Mattis seen this unbelievable reality. but I'm backing my normal way yet. This is what worries me about second dogs to be honest. I have so many friends that I I know it's not the same, but I had so many friends that have done I WASPA-. But like no, you don't understand what I've seen. I gotta go back in on like you been go back in every couple of weeks. To sit this one out you know. Yeah. Yeah I know well I. Actually I totally agree with you and I think. That can be Vani. It looks like there's a Lotta deep therapeutic value psychogenic that's emerging in the research right now she's fantastic. Yeah but as for. The awakening piece I mean honestly I think a lot of it comes through. Sitting. Grinding out the Patients Developing Moore and or exceptions more and more openness to just being me in as his coming to terms with myself, and is that as that group's The possibility of the. World Awakening. So to speak whatever that is that we glimpse of that actually coming into odd dany lies that grows it doesn't. It's it's a gradual thing. You know the the the Zen way really is like yet you can have a sudden. Experience of this moment. Experienced in a very different way, you can is real Yuka and actually I mean I think that alone is valuable to notice that it is real. You know this is not enough. Another thing we've sizes like well, all these. Are these rainy the chemical juiced moments that the rainy have an intrinsic. Value based on how real if me but when you have when you have a natural expensive, you Kompany deny its veracity and in my standard isn't night. If, we're trying to measure. The value of a moment of awakening in tons of how real or not it is. My is it only has to be a little bit more real than only way of seeing things. I think it can. It can be shown that it s more real because if you just think about walk sensory experience is you know We think we're some guys in the intuitive sense that whistle of the eyes of Windows. You know we're looking out the wolf lighten the light of the world is coming into US skulls that intuitive sense it's busy completely roll Marino no life coming, and you know you can cook this amazing research known people wearing sort of tactile vests crater stimulate the optic, necessarily getting census site through touch in. Anyway the fact is in a powerful moment of awakening. all A. When accepting sense experience is really subversive. And I think we have I think we drop down deeper into what is actually happening. In any. Moment of consciousness in a way. With closer to you know some sort of been neurology of it. With the illusion, the optical and newson's. Created by our sense equipment. We're kind of seeing through it. Then you know that that's why we you know we. Took about entities because. In to have. I mean, for example, in the first experience I had said. You. Know it was. It was like. Everything became transparent and I could. In that transparency that was no distance and I remember feeling night. I could. The furthest reaches of the universe with it of immediately president. and. Own that level. I think somehow that's true. Because in a we've dropped into. A realm or a level of Experience here and now. Where we have. When no longer? So a functioning. Consciousness is no longer functioning with ideas of. Distance for. Example. You know. You can is possible to. Get. To the under. that. presupposition of distance. I'm curious how how much of this you think is can actually be explained with language. I've read a lot about how you know words are just as symbols there. They don't actually they're just signposts to something but not the actual thing do you find because I'm always trying to rationalize and intellectually figure out what enlightenment actually is. And then I just you know. It's like something you could never grasp I feel like you could read fifty descriptions of it and be like, oh, it's probably a little bit of this a little bit of that. But it doesn't seem like you can ever. Kind of rationalize your way into an understanding. Do you think that's accurate? Well I would say that. I would agree with that definitely in the sense of like. The, the the sort of fanny is experience. That's why we change. That's why the possibility across lies experience. But I I do think there is some commonalities that can be pointed to like you know many might agree this Sunday to do Wiz. Discovering the mice sense of me. Has Been an idea it hasn't been. Real, fake the way. I think many many might converge on many might converge on Say A sense of non separation, the somehow. You know the the idea that. You know I am the subjects and everything experiences in on is an object. That can disappear at led the impact that a little bit i. think that one of the that, I've been fascinated with for at least the last few years is just This idea of. Understanding that. We experience be emotionally physically. Visually. Anything that we look at is actually just being rendered in our brain, right? Like that's the actual. Display of that information. Somehow happening in neurons in our brain, it's not happening out there in the world so I am actually creating this entire environment in my brain. So. What does that make me in a sense and then how deep does that go eventually wind does it stop and what's left when it all goes away does any of that make sense to you? Though it does it does. I. Mean. I. Mean. I think I do think that it's possible through you know guided paucity practice to come to see. To not not just think that really skews. The and then, and then you know they that's what. With this word shouldn't Yassa empties is actually. Really see the the you can somehow they could still be some sort of awareness. But, there's just nothing question about that. Now, the I'm really curious about emptiness. I've had moments in my practice of what I would call like a state of of just having a non-active mind. Okay. But I don't feel that's the same. I feel like emptiness at least in my head is is a couple of different things. One is you know can I come monkey mind would everyone talks about in terms of just like being able to tame that a bit but also I feel There is a wait an unseen kind of subconscious weight. In burden. Of Years of life? That is like. This. Constant kind of heaviness. And the only time I can really experienced that going away. Like. It's like a deep state of meditation brings about what is almost like a just like a beautiful exhale like a release of that. An an a lightness that comes from detaching from. That subconscious wait In so in my mind is like case thoughts no thoughts great subconscious wait detachment like I feel like I'm getting closer. To those those things it helped me understand those things. Does that make any sense? Yes it totally does I mean one one way that I've hide it. Out is I mean yeah, I think you're right like this this of cool this. Primary Sunday show level of meditation Will we on? A. Becoming less identified with us and then sources settling down and we can right actually you know yeah, we can have beautiful stillness of my think you'd get relaxation out of that come out of meditation. That's like that Mike I feel very relaxed didn't hit enlightenment but I feel pretty. Exaggeration but then we get these in. And then you're right. I mean not sort of existential wait. That's that's. Of. The act actively having a sense of self and to get relief is is just is just marvelous but this I mean I would take it may be maybe we could if we won't take it one more little shuffle, which is on the please do. Will. Say That Essentially. The experience is to see either the the sense of self. As simply being an idea. It's But you have to experience it to. To get the is very, very hard to realize. How pervasive, the sense of self is. Until it's somehow gone. There's one thing is Zach Timothy's were the sense of self gets very quiet like if you're in a flow state, you know. One of the cavs. Is Selflessness in. Writing Your Mountain bike play music Bosc road ever. You know great bef- elite performers into flow states. You know whether it's just much sense show that's great but that's not saying as actually seen through. The sense itself is being. I mean in the end route is being in usery is being something that I just. I conjured myself is like a nice to thing. Is that a little bit like a genie? The I've sound conduct myself and Actually. When I see that that's what I've done. It breaks the spell. So, that's one sided mentioned I think the other side is even hard for people who sat, which is that the whole world experience on some level is just a kind of Mirage and I'm GONNA. Gone. So deep. Sorry. But you know the the Qiutian here is the. that. Doesn't lead us to nihilism when when we actually experienced this. When we really should drop into this? You know boundless. In a, it's actually. It's The opposite of is because it's a beautiful that everything appears it doesn't matter what it is. It doesn't matter. You know we in the end we just come back. We treat everything just the way seems you know we have to, but it's it's so transported to have seen. The whole thing has been a dream I mean I think that's why they call you wait awakening because it's it really is like as if my whole life as being a dream. But I don't wake up and. Ignore the dream in I I now have to. Ten, the the best I can. I mean this there's one Japanese Mazda. In, the twentieth century is sort of one of the figures in the the organization's history that I'm I'm pawn off you know who he said well this. May Be a dream, but we must roof to make it a happy dream. and. That sort of expresses it. Now, you know I don't know how this landing this. Like. I, said we go. About as deep as I know how to go the. It's win and may not be very helpful to people seeing this. Emptiness stuff which is. has it helped me my life will. In I would say, it's not for everybody and it's not the only level of meditation practice that we need to work on we we gotta do the. Personal. Healing the interpersonal heating. Compassion. An kind of dualistic way that's an absolutely essential part I. think there's a real danger. People going to fall of instead of I WON'T BE A. Thing you know not not not dealing with my marriage you know which is. Coming in. To my kids I think we have to work on multiple that I sent me no tonight will. It's it's interesting because you mentioned earlier that part of the practice is is not just the sitting but the Immigration Piecyk, right? Like how do you take some of this and incorporated in something that you walk around with and and live right? Exactly. Exactly. It's how. I. Mean What can be a great blessing debate the. Tapping to a consensus of. Wow, that's the sort of. Only like I said an infinite wellbeing in the heart of every month. And if I can just remember it. In it, it changes my orientation greatly. And my practice is to try to remember it will consist of. And to be as helpful as I can be. Coming Yeah can't relate to the integration piece actually. Very you know the. With breaking shoots from seen south of breaking some of the. The inclination to work on behalf of Self Protection Self Promotion. Breaking their. and. Coming to this slice. In with a really different orientation wanting to help. When you first started getting into Zen for Real I just realized we didn't really describe to people what that practice looks like. Your you said Samba. Is that right? Yeah. What does that look like for someone that is curious like okay. zinn sounds really interesting all these things I'm wonderful. How do I get involved like what? What steps do I take to to create mail practices in? Yeah I. Mean it starts out with. In. A really. Watching the Bryce in a simple breath practice. which you know is a whole kind of world. Of of helpfulness. Own level because that is just learning, sit with the price and patiently. Getting more more. In a state where it's enough just to be breathing. In, how how beautiful APOB? But. In the world of ZAN, if you really WANNA get into this sort of deep stuff to about. You pretty much have to have a guide. You know and that's a whole deal as well. Heidi find a reliable Guide d one guide I mean that was that was actually a big issue for me. I I of. Suspicion of of Of especially male. Authorities figures general needs a my on difficult. Parental situation my challenge as well. That math me kind of. Not Really Trusting Mail, already essentially and. Really even not so much female was either and gradually I I couldn't really get. Real punches in this trading. Until I. Found somebody that I could I could really trust. because he so manifestly. Didn't really have an indie gained from what he was doing. You know he was he was Kinda busy running to charities was severely disabled people and teaching. Zen? And and he he really It really wasn't sort of. Inhibiting. Wasn't kind of gaining anything from his N teaching manifestly. And just just loved it. The wanted to share it. What does one learn when they have a guide? What are some of? Is it going deeper on some of the Cohen side of things like how does that differ than just a regular sitting practice? Yeah. That's a good question I think there are lots of different levels of meditation that we might want to. Big To say running in some people just want jog. Twice a week for twenty minutes and do they need a hunch probably not they might. You know a couple of youtube on Johnny something you know. But then if you won't be a an ultra runner or you WanNa, you know frankly Olympics or something you gotTa have coach and. I think it's like that with meditation at all depends you know in a sense how far you wanna go because foot for the great majority of people. Who are interested in. Getting practice together. You know, and by the way and I suspect is Kinda rations point as the numbers of people who Have, tried meditation who are interested in doing so is staggering. Fifty. Cent if you took. An I think. That's probably more than. Really need to. TATION. I. Don't I don't necessarily think that everybody needs it in A. Anna Someday. On also shoe. But in a For the great majority is just going to be. A maintenance of my welby in the. Maybe therapeutic moving into maintenance like I. In my exercise three times a week whatever by it'll does meditation ten minutes a day Sunday night not. I don't think you really do need a whole lot of coach if that's the situation. But if you're moving into this territory where Meditation becomes a vehicle for a deep. Exploration a deep inquiry to what is life? What is what I? You know what wh why do I really find a deep puppets and meaning to the whole thing if you're kind of on. In the in the weeds of those deep existential questions. I think and you WANNA use meditation as opposed. Then then that really is a place for a guide for coach. WHO's somebody's joining? Just somebody's GonNa. You know who's on the past two and hopefully just a few. Hilltops ahead of so. If. You should I mean. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense I mean, I think I know a ton of people that that love you know their APP experience and actually I found. I found you through Sam Harris's waking up APP. You have a fantastic course there on on Cohen's. And I think you know Samsa a great example someone that has put together a great collection of both talks and you know formal training but in a lightweight fashion that almost anyone can jump into and spend ten minutes a day on. I would say his is on the death on the more advanced side. You know there's a lot of meditation APPs out there that offer. Prescriptive Meditation you know he's ID relief fear flying things of that nature. And I think that's right for the majority of people that is going to be the path. It's like I have SOS moment I need to go in and dive in and take something to to help with that. Exactly. Exactly. I I didn't think visconti. This real deep exploration thing is for everybody For. Those that all curious in that kind of metal whether they're ways meditation on somebody else also. Up for grabs but. What what I really. I think about about Zen that I've been trained as. It's it's really a very good shot. kind of changing for the better. Really is because. You know the have. Somebody that you can meet with his checking in on your practice and your life and in a kind of a reference point for you as you're going. Through this over the years. So. Then, you know deep changes may happen in way experience things we've been talking about in and. To have somebody who can recognize. This is. Know and. Then it just you that you feel it. You feel I remember when I, I. You know I was I was a met these teacher Joan gain. Who's GonNa Absolutely love Still do and he. He's part of the same lineage organization and And he? I just told him about that moment on the beach in and actually one other than that subsequently had. Immediately. I just knew that he'd been that to. Wasn't just that he says Oh yeah. In I actually could fee or. This was a human being. Who recognized what story bath? And then he gave me a come first coincide with a sat with longtime. Seventy something. Tony unexpected happened one evening. I was. Bringing supper up to to my wife and kids. Who are watching a movie? On TV a just suddenly I was standing there giving. Food and you know just this really shocking. Thing does happen. I knew how to gun see. Hey. So the next time I could I saw him. And he said, oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Great. He knew exactly. He he understood and he knew and he recognized what had happened. And that feeling of being match in such. You know Kinda. Cold movie. Wild Place. And there was a poff and I was on a positive being kind of handed down of generations. That was pretty amazing in A. The that there really have been people who. Take, care of this aspects of human development. That is some. really where we normally go. In an. Our conveying that how it just seems incredible to me. That this was not random that this was everything to do with Cohen sending Wiz. and. I was. Meeting somebody. Who was part of? Some sort of weird world of people of the centuries who've known about this. KNEW HOW TO HELP A human being discover this and then live. You know I just found that. Amazing. Yeah I I'm all about these types of experiences I think that in my life at some point I realized that there are the kind of doors and moments that you have in life that are that are truly transformational in you know. Life will never be the same. Once you kind of grasp what you've gone through and I think part of that is like. That change from adolescence to adulthood and realizing that you're on your own and you're capable and you're your own person. That's a big one you know having. A child for the first time and feeling that unconditional. Love that. All these parents talk about and when you don't have a kid, you're like, yeah, I get to sound grade they cry whatever and then you experienced that love for the first time and you're like, wow, there is a door in whole world that I opened that. I read about on paper. But I never really knew what it was about Intel I went through it right precisely and I feel that there's a few of those. You know I've had some psychedelic experiences that were the same thing. I'm a little bit more. Skeptical side and that I I do think there's their benefits as you as you said, but I just know that these states of consciousness can exist. And why not go and explore them because they're here for us the question is do we want to take the trouble to try and open up other doors and see what's behind the actually step through them rather than just reading about them and so that that's what gets me excited anyway yes I could write with you and Is SORTA the incrementally getting clean and clear going further south. End Olsen. Being able to bring it back into how we live in A. Nice I mean that's one of the things maybe end up most grateful foreign is that obviously You know we you know. I guess it was a book of as a phrase you little. Catchphrase, often license laundry was that to the laundry well, I used to take that to mean. A little bit of down like you might have some exulted experience, but you got to come back to. The normal humdrum web experiencing things but that's role. I now it's saying. You know. The laundry is a miracle. In a winning when you when you go clear. You know you can sit you can put a tea bag in a cup. and. Pool. The castle into the cup and wash the steam. And? You know it's like nothing could be more beautiful nothing could be more fulfilling. That's what often the united only means it means. that. Simple active. SCRUBBING OUT PAT. Thing. You know it's the whole the in. The whole. World is present if we really. Experience it. It's. We couldn't offer more so being able to. More, and more experience each mom. Just sitting at the table and You know sitting in front of the computer. They like in. The ordinary ordinary. is so marvelous in a I to me that's the. Rear gift of this kind of training. is to. Be Able to. In some sense cut a bit closer to living. As. If this day where my loss in this day where my i? You know. I can't imagine a great gift. Yeah. How do you take those experiences which you describe I think by nature those are. Those are pretty mellow chill moments to have how do you? How do you take politics like the world that we live in today like you know all the chaos had the coronavirus and everything else is going on this is something where. I have a hard time. My wife is is very, she does practice meditation and she's a fan mourn the kind of bike you know prescriptive casual practice I think that. She has a really deep concern and and fascination and You know politics just wrap her up like you know in in it'll get your brain going and get you amped up and you know. How does one? Deal with this how do you? How do you handle? This atmosphere what can you do my? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Bring that up. Let me just. Back up just a moment if I may like. This time of coronavirus vars I mean the way I would see. A lot of people in communities that I'm working with. An end the suffering a law with loss of livelihood and in a real. Really. Deep anxiety about putting food on the table in pain the. Red Zone. But. There's also people who are in A. More privileged and who appreciating this sense of. Breathing space in the whole planet is taking during a breasted slowing down co two emissions of down. In an planes crisscrossing the skies much. You know you know what? I mean That's another narrative that you Hinz. Whichever, way take it. It's amazing to me how this works. In the PRU. Wash should come but this. This Diane. For a new moral awakening in the US. And Britain to where I'm from. This added the stillness comes. A whole new. Moral Awakening About Racist Pasta. And present. You know and. I find that. Just. Kind of well it's interesting the. Stillness. Which? You know as as meditate deeply believe in. Should be producing that and what do we do about it? What house meditation upon to play I mean one thing that's many ways but one is just like it. We think in terms of these different sort of levels practice you know. TUNING INTO Well one of the things that mistakes you can do is all about trauma held in the body. And I didn't whether you tune into this. Work, racist, and racial trouble in the body is a whole new. exploration that that seems to be going on this great guy charisma. minicam. An if you've come across him, no not is fantastic is going to book my grandmother's hands and its own about how we hold racist trauma. You know. Y to sought white supremacy white privilege over multiple generations. In white people. Have it in that bodies that people having that bodies in different ways. And Law Enforcement having that bodies and. Meditation is. Can be a great. Arena full. Semantic release you know sitting when MS children the body and releasing it but you know, Basel, it's like we are you'd hugged that as meditators window open to. New Education when needed in and. The actions stepping up I present is GonNa, quite a history of being. Engaged in social activism. Moso pops than some of. Meditation traditions, I could never figure out how active to be in that world. You know like for me when I think about politics and you know the corruption on that comes with power and money in you know regardless of party. Yeah. I kind of throw my hands up and say this is space that I want to dabble in in trying to quote unquote help us or pick a winning cider whatever may be or do I just you know opt out and that's That's hard for me to kind of wrap my head around you know sometimes I think. That These negative things that are happening in the world are a push in a direction that may seem harsh but there. Jolting and awakening and Kinda of slapping the opposite side in the face. To wake up in kind of come back and had a response that hopefully creates someplace in the middle that is a better outcome. Because of that. Is that make sense? Yes and so when you about Some of these really harsh crazy things that are happening. Change doesn't happen due to complacency. It happens when there are these big bold moments that that shock us into action. So. In some sense they're they're needed. So you know all these things go through my head like okay. Now, what do I do? You know it's like if they're they're needed in a sense to try to stop them or do to just let the world unfold you know yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they can't be stopped I think but I think the you know I would imagine that. This is a difference between your. Eric. The this much political engagement. This muscles civic engaged in your. Identity whether it's because the country is smaller. The Up to maybe sixty seventy, million biggest. Maybe. Germany's eighteen. So Remoteness swamp, swallow scout societies where. In a own the whole. People feel they a stake in the political. Processes. and. It's been one of the big things would be coming in now American citizens. Well but we've been here. I've been he nanny. NYDIA getting close to thirty is anyway an my wife's About You know it's it's really different the. Does a sense of. What's would not exactly But like POW snus. I can't really engage with the political process because it's it's all stitched up anyway. And the lobbyists and corporations are. Of Bullshit So what am I supposed to do? Right but but I I really think the somehow we got a trendy something you know then the Zingo. Always the makeup positive step toward the good. However, small make as to what the good. And I don't think we can just throw up a hands and. Say leave it to the bags in a we go to somehow try to. Stand up. What we can them certainly sees wrong. elway route and as. You know and and we we also, we don't know what? The facts of our actions are going to be. One of the you know the concept of the Bugsy Santa Somebody's working on behalf of wellbeing of others is it they do it without attachment today results even try to help and. they're going to do in any whatever the result. then. That the the helpfulness isn't contingent. On A. Positive result. You see what I mean. You know if. Maybe, that's the spirit which we. Might be cooled onto. You know to to pay hey, county you pull them. I am Yes. Yes. You're right in the secret. The Federal agents coming in and all that stuff. Yeah I I've been very lucky in the sense that I'm about fifteen to twenty minutes outside of that drive. So I don't I don't see a lot of it but. It's been. Yeah. It's been definitely a few months of of chaos for sure. Right. Right. Right. One thing I wanted to to cover that you touched on earlier, but I thought was just so beautiful is the Cohen's. Because they are. They're really cool. To do you want to describe what they are and and kind of explain a couple of the the ones that you teach in in Sam's chorus yet I mean by and large Cohen's a little things that was said or done by some awakened practitioner. A longtime ago whether in India in early days Buddhism or in China in the early days of Chinese but. And in a usually they don't make any sense. They if you try to unpack. Sim. Rationally. You'll hidden on pass usually at some point. And the ideas that incense they these little actions Oh. Sayings. From these. Great old. MAZDAS. They sort of. Their an expression of the ways they saw things in the in licensed states. So they they dug makes sense to only realistic west seeing things. But the moment you you you To the GNOME do you not known separately sorted? No self to emptiness. The moment. We taste that. They may sense. I mean, that's that's rather schematic description what but this great ones I come in. This Mazda was ost. So what is what is a awake ness? Any announces. A dry shit stick. Stick with them and they used in the toy and medieval China. The drudge fast. What what what what what why in a? So that you might, you might think it's true. But and come up with some way of rationalizing. But when when you what we do with Conan's we sit with it. And then we come to the teacher. In in a private little mason one a one. 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It in your meditation backswing of what the? Hell. But then all of a sudden you. Oh Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Because That expressing. This world of. Found this. Experience of an tennis experience of oneness. They're actually expressing that and they just do something you know what to do as a another one stop the sound of the distant, bow what what what what am I supposed to do with that? You know well, you just we just run it through the mind. And Again F we've by the way typically. Somebody wouldn't really sit with these ones intimidate had. A. Maybe working on one varies early. had a kind of breakthrough experience with the. Let me ask you a question. This is this is going to be this could be completely wrong and you can be like that's totally wrong if it is. So. I'm a computer science guy I think of like execution of code right like. You might run some windows code through a Macintosh and the machines like I have no idea what you're talking about output his garbled. But if you run it through like enlightened code through in a and being in the response that comes out is going to be in a light response and you're like that checks out your code compiled correctly congratulations. Like is that what we're talking about here, talking about like you kind of have to like be in a certain state to understand what is the code that you're receiving, and then you will give an appropriate response once you're in that state. I like the. Look. I maybe a little closer to say, just a just a slight just with you has to have experienced it. Right you don't necessarily have to be in it right now he has to have experienced it. Fairly recently. Because for example, when I started cone study odd had. The kind of experienced that punishment too long ago. And I have as it were happy to have a fresh experience with the first going sitting with. Because then then it's an allied in when you these experiences like with saying, they tend to happen and then kind of fade but there's actually There's a period when they may not be vividly going on still in a few weeks later sunny but the recent enough that they're still alive. And that's when again in with you stop working with the COA. May Be working with on had an experience. Then you stop working with subsequent ones and they allow that experience to grow and spread Brunen and he started in long the Lorraine's go is that the world of that awaken? Experience. And his ole-ry, well, they stole being separate. that's that's really and the comments what Nicole tool when I love and the Coens van, a van means because. You know that that will I mean like like another one is like You know again, what's away some vary that question in the muscle answers The Oak tree in the gone. The Oak tree and decor. So. Okay. Let's take that one. Do Tree in the garden right now at the. Experience. You not do anything do what do I wouldn't you? Say You sit with this? Are you keating it over and over in your mind with but but not through the lens of trying to figure out, trying to figure out trying to figure out you just like almost like mantra-like where you don't have any meaning behind it, but you're just using it over and over or how do you sit with it? Yeah. Yeah this. is more or less Mansur like but actually. I hate to put more wrinkles and complications but. Typically. The I con people sit with is either going to be. Who is this? Who Am I? What is this? Something like that or is going to be this battling lung that's move Mu and and there's a little story. Among us this Mazda Jochen does a dog has put a nature is even adult. Ponder this. Awakened Reality. And you know the natural answer to that question would be, of course of course, it is everything's done. Right? But Junkies says, moot which means no. So we've doesn't really make sense. So. I'M GONNA combined the question. So what you typically do is you sit with this mood. Cohen that sale sit with. Usually for a long long time manager style literally. Trying to repeat it on every. Now. Do you say or do you say the meaning not because like move would not be our language right so that's right that's right. Though you say moon cause win gold interested in the meaning I'm mean I just told the meeting that but it's not actually rather okay. What's what's relevant is the somehow judges The most expression moon. Is. Even that single syllable. I can put it in this way contains. Or expresses. His experience awakening. So anyway. So you know. It's Not Magic actually it really isn't it somehow? I de Mechanics. Aw but that's some. Kind of mechanical in the keep repeating And you know it can be very challenge at lots of things come up with US Matt doing this. Crazy. far rather a slow sense sense experience brass or whatever. Stupid little syllable noted means you know a lot of resistance come up we just. If if we really committed to. Sit through that resistance in probably that start example in its else breaking things down stuff learning to surrender more and eventually move. Is Particularly Tried and tested triggering. A random experience. I mean, that's not random if sitting with mood and you know once something has happened once that's being some breakthrough experience with seems to you know it's not like it happens with predictable regularity, but it does happen. Just by sitting with that little suitable. Weirdly, but it does there often we saw city with other Cohen's. The oaktree Cohen is actually from. One of the classics collections will be gate this gate, which is a book of forty eight color. So. At that point, we would you know we would either be maybe still sitting with Mu as a kind of baseline practice one or the other ones. One of the early ones all we might just be sitting with Bryce or we might be doing the practice known as just sitting. and. We'd be running the new Khan through a mind now. Wouldn't be match style but now and then we get what is this guy? The OAK tree in the garden Dreaming Was Adam about? Anita, with subsequent Cohen's is not like we're GONNA get. We're not expecting to have sit of massive awakening survey time the coolest know but what they do is they. They sort of They bring us in suddenly back to that. Initial breakthrough experience we've had. With the I con. And they. they allow it to. Some house dogs a spreads through being through our lives. Subtly may be and. Author, we'll get a little hit a little shift. and. Stuff is happening anyway as we keep on practicing with growing in all kinds of ways you know and So I you know even in I know I've talked a lot about wagering but. Practices a multidimensional think I think you know especially the long-term train. When not under growing in A one way where lots of things. There has been instances though of of this type of a Cohen being told from a teacher to a student that will shock is Cohen the this kind of idea of being like. Shocked into an enlightened state through statement is that a Kohen as well will yeah I mean it could will be lot of Cohen's. What kinda bloom that way? In the they are record of the moment when. A student or something in the Moss's response was. In. A. Baffling shocking. You know like dried since gateway and somehow gylfi. An unwary student into into spirits awakening I find fascinating because I could be like you'd mentioned I, think your book like I can be like the tug of a jacket or sleeve it can be a Iraq kidding a piece of bamboo like, yes that's that's crazy. It's just like they're they're sitting on the edge, but is this last little tipping point the jolts them into the state is is that accurate? Yes or anything that's very good way of putting it. Exactly. The is like the way I think about sometimes, is it the the? Will get thinner center but as long as they're all via done see through. Is, just one loss threads snatch and visit gas. You know it's like. You know I think like. The way we normally experience is so convincing and yet it's like if you imagine I, can image on the of opponent you know say tree opposite as it looks so real. In A, but it just takes one little pebble and. The the image is routed in. Yeah I think a practice gets us so that the The. The Raj guests very threadbare and he start to see the we've underneath the text on you know, and then one loss footsteps Boop hose made you know, can you mention the the Cohen about the was it a monk that was kind of done with meditating and decided to venture out and stubbed his toe can you? Can tell that one I thought. That was great. Yeah. Yeah. This is a guy who's. Grown up with a fisherman and an extra he'd seen his father die in a fishing accident he failing raging river drown and he was. His He gone off to join a monastery young man being there isn't much time. Kind of nothing had happened. We had felt he wasn't getting any way president decided to leave and he went off it put on his traveling pack his sandals headed off. Up The hillside. And hadn't been gone long. He stuck his tongue. Apparently, really bad. A rock and. It. was that mud the precipitated. Somehow in pain and you know he had a great way to experience and went right back to the monastery. And they have said, what are you doing back? You know we still elasticity well. Lost, that was taken with what he says to hit. That we take that express non step was taken to mean he's tasted this. Will. Of Oneness. In some sense, you call go anywhere. It just. Just that shocking pink, but it doesn't have to show some as it's come. just putting the key in the CONDO. Bringing shopping putting it on the kitchen counter suddenly. Welsh inches. Well, this has been great I don't WanNa. Take too much your time but I would love to chat about your book because I I've been listening to it in in getting through it and it's been a great story so far can you tell us a little bit about the book and in what people can expect from it? Yeah. I mean the the book is basically a memoir and it's it's about how? I found heating through a from extra. You know. Depression and anxiety and. Kind of. Low grade mental health issues in a a true meditation practice, and then how you know how? Then how may puzzling go musty into? The realm of deeper examination of what we are. And how? you know. Any of US ready if we want to. We can. Go deeply into. Profound in any profound experiences about the nature of lights and. The nature of reality of consciousness. It's not out of reach the way. We might think it is you know it's I wasn't like A. Like. A gifted meditate running like you know neither Lola's. Kind Kinda onery like I said meant mental health. You know so low great mental health challenges and wasn't like I was. You know some. Tools Rian. Novels. Just. Ordinary. Troubled, Guy. and. So. I I hope that the book is interesting in. Just, showing how? Post can really really help and. Really, profound ways. That's great. The book is called one blade of grass. It's available on Amazon I. Got It on audible because you read it, which is Great. And he just I was actually had a big at a long car trip to take visit a family friend and yeah. I put it on and it just was able to listen audible and I thought it was Fantastic. So thanks for for sharing today, and then also you know I would love to I is there anywhere online that people can find out what you're up to I. Mean you're you're in Arizona cracked New Mexico New Mexico sorry new Mayo. Yes. So yeah, there's the Zen Center I'm the guiding teacher at Cool Mountain clouds. Incentive. We also have a mindfulness institute, the Rio Grande. Institute and that's in Santa Fe direction off and so that's I in a mounting cloud. WATCHI- is on. tweezers on facebook is on instagram. And you can keep up we have retreats once a month on soon of the moment and. Yeah. We have a tool. Every Thursday night never caused every Tuesday night. We have two cents day have zoo. So actually you know actually for us this this the coronavirus crisis. As research change things that we've. Been, you know people zooming in from all of the world for events in initially no way. Can of. In a really and everywhere in between. and. So it's really cool lesson than it's. Bringing people together the it would be much haunted have gathered. That's fantastic so that that's will own gung. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cures to anyone can sign up for retreated. Are these like single day retreats they introductory kind of Intro Zan retreats like what type of Retreats Are you doing? Yes. We have them most of them amongst day and not the Zen Zen is kind of on the menu but as A general mindfulness and meditation practice. But the tools will usually lean a little bit in the sense side. But the Typically full days and you kind of. Choose how much you WANNA do We have a main block from nine am just resigned PM, but as also only block from. Lake blocking evening. You just you just do what you want. So people the the the attendance fluctuates because you know. Tends to kind of concentrate more around the morning tool time ten am and then. And time the. Two. PM. Vessel mounted tied by the way. And, you know definitely a tendency to. Gather a bit around those times but. You, know the there. It's a free for will you come? Goes you like and you pay what you like we have a suggested donation but Beijing anybody can come. And contribute whatever they can. That's great and that's all at mountain cloud dot org. Yes. Correct. Excellent will henry. Thank you so much for being on the show this like super fascinated I'm excited to get to the arrest yearbook and I actually what we were chatting I like bought that that book of Cohen's so I've been like. You have me like she let me go my recent orders. As you were mentioning things I was taking notes So I got the gate lift gate coming. Oh Hey. Can I recommend another book? Yes. Please do is cool zen the authentic gauge. By yarmulke. Coat a Ko you. And that is carbs introductory book to Allot what I've been toolkit from that the math of training in sambo. Fantastic. That's what I'm looking for a that will be the best one again if I were. Okay. Great. Will. Thank you so much. Oh Man. Thank you. So of marshes own drilling size in you know. Humbled to be on your show I. Really think it's terrific by the way. Thank you. You've just incredible and I'm ready on the among them. Thank you. 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How to Prioritize

THE BRENDON SHOW

24:32 min | 11 months ago

How to Prioritize

"Hey my friends it's Brennan Bouchard and welcome to a best of edition of the Brendan Show. These best of episodes feature training that I have done live sometimes online to tens of thousands of people or live on stage. I was speaking on some stages across the world or these might be some of my monthly training programs and highlights of those that I every single month with our monthly students. So I know you're going to really enjoy these because these are a little bit more of a deep dive. Look at some of my training as a personal professional development trainer. You know I focus so much on helping you find that deeper level of motivation and start practicing some of those high performance habits. Will you hear me talk about many of those concepts in these special episodes? Here these are my best of trainings. Only and exclusively right here on the Brendan. Show so I hope you join the. Please know that as you hear me speak in many of these you'll hear me reference something because sometimes all have been training live or on video or on stage through broadcast so you might not be able to see something suggesting or maybe even drawing out on a on a flip chart or motion towards on a presentation. But you'll get the gist of it. So make sure you bust out your journal. Take some notes here because this is really valuable insights on the mindset of the strategy that you need to adopt in order to improve your life and if you want to go and get more content like this but much more deeper and have more of an interactive relationship with me and this type of training. Make sure join our high performance monthly training program. That's our monthly subscription program. Where I go live with you. And our high performance students every single month and I train on a new topic or a new piece of research that we've created from the high performance institute and I train on that and then I do. Qa and actual live coaching interactive coaching with people every single month. That's called high performance monthly. And you can access it at Brendan Dot Com forward slash monthly. That's Brendan Dot com forward slash monthly B. R. E. N. D. O. N. DOT COM forward slash monthly to get deeper dive training similar to this. So if you like this you would love that training program but without further ADO. Let's jump in right now to one of the Brennan Best of trainings. We've got a big conversation day about competing interests. It's hard to hit high performance. When you got fifty different things that are pulling at you. We've got a lot to cover today and competing interests because so many people struggle with this. I recently just spent some time with the private client. Who's in a holy heck of a mess? Because they've said yes to so many things and they're all very very important. The person feels a high obligation to do well in each of those areas but the person took on too much. And I think we've all can relate with that. I don't know how you're doing. Now you're either in a place where you're super busy or you're in a place where you're everything's cool and there's harmony or you're in hot mess depending on where you're at. I think you're gonNA find a lot valuable in this conversation today because I asked all the time. What happens when you've already chosen? Let's say you're already there. You're in a place of competing interests and we'll always be in a place of competing interests our whole lives where you've sometimes you feel like you have to sacrifice your health for short amount of time to get things done. Sometimes you feel like you have to sacrifice a relationship over here in terms of how much time you're spending with that person because you've got so much work over here or other times. Everything has to stop because you have to care for somebody other times. You know your hobbies get on the back burner for two or three years. Because you're building something I'm sure you can relate with all of these things because it's just part of life. There's always going to be this juggle of moving parts and what I like to do is just help. You get to that point where you don't find yourself overwhelm so often because of competing interests because the reality is very few of us can take on three four or five major things at once and yet we all want to take on more of that and we have to learn to say no more often we have to learn to set boundaries more often. We have to choose better things more often. And if we're not doing those we really do struggle and I know you can relate with this. I've been there too so I share this from that same personal journey as your on. There's a lot to keep going and sometimes it's super hard. So how are you GonNa do better in dealing with competing interests one of the mastery level? Things that I've learned to do in my life is this first piece. And that is to remove the non essentials to remove the non essentials. I really believe that if you just got good at this this would be one of those needle moving strategies or skills if you will that helps everything else worked better in high performance sort of parlance. We talk about this as a metal skill as this skill. If you're good at this one you're going to be good at the rest of these things because this is where most people really struggle. They have so much of their day. Eaten up by non essential things and w non essential things is not only is it. Functionally non essential leaning. You don't have to do it right. It's not serving any end outcome or cause but it's not essential because it doesn't bring you any joy or meeting in the greatest single incident of my life outside of having my my blessed relations with my family and friends is my car accident because at nineteen it made me understand very clearly what we're not essentials for me a non essential is anything that doesn't help me feel like I'm fully alive. I'm living my life or my calling or a truth. It's things that I know aren't important to my relationships at all and there are things that doesn't matter in terms of matter make a difference doesn't make me feel a sense of pride or satisfaction or joy. I contributed them. I just got very clear what doesn't matter because you know if you've ever been in a hospital bed it's very clear. What doesn't matter what you think all these things matter. And a lot of non essentials that people think the matter stuff as an example. You know they spent all this time organizing creating buying gidding categorizing researching stuff. It's just being doing when the most non essential things in the world and that is being a browser. Don't be a browser. Because most of the time when we say competing interests I'm GONNA assume from the STAR FROM THE GECKO. We're talking about real interests of yours things that you are really passionate about things that really matter to you. That's why it's hard to choose because these things are all important but if you're trying to juggle in with all the important things things are not important at all they're going to do is they're going to eat away at your foundation of success like termites at the foundation of a home like little bites the little twenty minutes or fifteen minutes or five minutes. If this person looks at these magazines that are just stuff that mean. Nothing to the person's life. They're not looking to shop. They're not looking to buy anything they're just kind of. Oh well this thing showed up in in my house so I guess I have to look at it. That's called being a stupid consumer is like okay. I don't want to be more conscious than that. Just because someone put something in front of doesn't mean you look at it so for those who are browsing all day long on facebook like I got nothing else to do and then later on you complain. I'm so busy and overwhelmed. No that's your problem. That's your inability to manage your time and your attention towards things that are essential to you and that's what bothers me at this day and age. Frankly it's very difficult to be a compassionate coach right now. Because I'm still busy over. Well what are you doing They're looking at facebook for twenty thirty forty minutes a day. I'm like what that's because you're not managing your minds addiction to the dopamine drop. That comes every time you see something new because right this is a variety machine and variety machine that is just like a hamster connected running on something for a food pellet this is your food pellet for your brain today and because it's fun people spend twenty thirty forty minutes an hour or two three four hours a day browsing and then they have the gall to say. You don't understand. How stressed I you understand how busy I am. No what I understand is you've never mastered this. Meta skill of removing the non essentials. It's very very important. What does not matter must not be on your plate and you need to stop putting it there because what it's doing again. I'm talking about competing interests. Please recognize the context. Here is if you got interest things that are important to you and you're juggling in all those unimportant things it's going to wreck you. All those little distraction pieces they add up. The average American watches four hours of television a day now. Four hours of television is over a decade of their life. Twenty four seven in front of the Boob Tube. Doing nothing that is meaningful to them per se. It's cool to have escape. I don't mind escape but make sure the escape is something that you feel is going to revitalize you in a real significant way. You know it's like I tell people I just I'm I'm really fried man. I just need to watch our TV. I'm like you know what go take an hour of Yoga. I'm really fried right now. Man I I just I just I'm I'm GONNA do some other escapism like video game. I'm like you know what go meditate because there's GonNa be benefits to that yoga and the met benefits to that meditation that are going to multiply your later performance where there's GonNa be no benefit to blatant consumerism. And I think that's really important for people understand today because they're getting lost in the digital stream. They're drowning in the digital stream and yet they're saying that they're so busy they're really not and identify the things that you can remove and for me. I just removed so many things I used to think were important because so many times in my life. I've lost somebody or I've been in a hospital bed or I've moved. I'm sure you've done to do you remember that last time you moved. And you've got rid of so much stuff and you're like I so don't need this. How how freeing that was getting rid of stuff you know. If you haven't read like Essential Ism a book called essentially or the life. Changing magic of tidying-up read those books. It will just help you get in a new mindset or or even read like another book called Vagabond. Read those three books just to get back in your mind like right. I need to get down to the core things in my life. They're important you know one of the reasons. The Zen masters were so zen is because they weren't collecting lots of stuff. They weren't being distracted by lots of things. You know you. You work with high level masters in any sport. They're not trying to do a thousand things. There are actually very minimalist and I think that today becoming a little bit more. Focus on essentially or minimalism. I think will help serve you being able to manage the things that matter the most. I'm constantly evaluating what's not essential and I evaluate the non essentials based on a bigger picture of my purpose. And we're GONNA talk about some of the goals have but I just kind of think about my life in a continual basis in terms of legacy because I've faced the end of my life so many times that I've had to say what really matters to help people remember me what my real contributions really matter from me and getting rid of the things. That aren't unique to you or won't really move the needle. The the things that you're replaceable. On let let somebody else. Do it do things that are essential to you? Contributing your unique ability or unique purpose or your unique joy. Focus more on those and say no to the rest. A lot of people's overwhelm has nothing to do with the competing interests. It has to do with all the garbage in between that they throw in and they don't realize it could easily get ten hours a week back. I mean think about that. If you've got ten hours a week back to focus on the essentials you'd be a weapon and that's how personally. I've gotten so far in my life is recognizing the non essential number. Two is a big one now. Let's assume you've got some competing interests of the real got three major projects and they're kind of pulling at me and and and I'm not doing anything necessarily well or you know. I've got these projects but they might hurt my health over here. Here's what's important about any project any goal you ever take on clarify your payoffs clarify it your payoffs so if you feel overwhelmed right now what I'd love for you to do just bust out a piece of Paper Bus Style Journal and draw a bunch of circles on that page to represent you're competing interests right. That could be like you know you take out a piece of paper and you draw a couple of things here you might have like. I'll give you an example here in a second so I've got a book. I'm working on right now. I'm always maintaining the blog and the youtube showing the PODCASTS. I've got seminars coming up. I've got coaching. And these are a lot of things that really if you think about it. These are actually one interest. The interest is furthering my mission as an expert see. These aren't competing interests. These are all just strategy serving one interest one page a lot of people. They think that these things compete. These are all serving one thing a competing interests would be now like the kits right now like the TV show now like over here. The new opportunity with a project. Or it's like when everything's are stacking up now it's a lot of competing interests so I can just draw a bunch of circles of everything that you're doing all the major projects then what you do or can you grab any of those bubbles and put them all on one. And what are you gonNA tend to find? Most people only have three to five interests. They think they have a lot going on throughout is they end up lining up on one page and now it's on one page you go. Oh maybe I've got three or four these pages but there. I've finally grouped my interest. Most people have never grouped their interests of what they're working on and so everything feels random and easily overwhelm. But when you have it all on one then you can say oh well now I can schedule a little better because look let me now schedule. My interests versus just each little bubble. I hope that makes sense. I'll get more to that in a moment but in this point when I'm trying to share is clarifying the payoffs and what I'd like you to do is clarify what. What's the benefit of this thing? What's the benefit of that thing? What's the benefit that what's the benefit of that? A lot of the reasons it feels like we're juggling things at the same time as we think they all have to happen at once. I tell people is what you need to do is identify which ones will give you the near term short term and the long term payoffs okay which will give you the quick winds and the long term you know wins which wins the battle which wins the war right short verses long so as you think about all of this you should know the payoffs of every project you're working on and I can't believe how many people don't know this so they'll say Brenda I'm working on a book. Okay great tell me about the payoffs of this book not me and I said well you said you're gonNA write a book. Yeah what's the payoff Well you know I'm GonNa. I'm going to reach millions of people with my book and I go. You can really people. Okay well let's let's assume that's true but you work on this book right now. Tell me what else the payoffs of the book. Well be an expert and people calling me and I'll get consulting and I'll get coaching and get seminars. And we'll get all these payoffs from the book and say okay. Could you get those payoffs without the book I mean? Could you start a seminar without a book? I did you start coaching without a book. I Did. Could you start an online video blog without? Yes could you start an online course without them up? Yes so the the whole payoff that you believe that the book was GonNa Give You. You can get just by doing the thing right now. I'm thinking about the payoffs of my entire schedule every single week. And that's why my competing interests never feel like I'm getting crammed on them is because I'm like master chess player every week thinking strategically. What's the payoff going to be on? This win is it. Is this really a now thing or a later thing? Is this a big enough payoff for me to focus on now or later and so what you must do? In order to make that happen is draw out all your major projects or interest that you're working on and really think about what's the payoff there. Let me give you an example. In a personal example relationship example there was a time when my wife and I were both building separate businesses and we were just like cranking and there was this huge opportunity like a major huge huge huge opportunity. Came to me and it was like. Wow if I did this. The payoff would be amazing. A couple months later right but we were so busy. We really needed time away like a vacation and so we said we're in taking the vacation and that opportunity. I literally just removed it and said I just said. Let's go on vacation because the payoff was the maintenance and the growth of my relationship which is a bigger longer term. Play than any opportunity. If you haven't studied end of life studies they call them meaning people who talk about what you regret. Don't regret or remember or a proud of at the end of your life. Always the number one thing that comes towards the end is your relationships who standing around you as you are passing on to the next round. Who Do you? Who Do you love? Who Will Miss you? Who who is going to carry on your legacy you think about your relationships much more than the short-term things but people are always doing that they're making the non essentials essential at the cost of their own health which is their longevity and the relationships which is their ultimate legacy so it doesn't make any sense and so if you're not checking in on these things what you end up doing is Europe saying yes to everything you end up just living your life without priority and when you're doing that that's happening. The reason people don't prioritize. They're not asking the payoff questions. They're not thinking about what's the value of this project win. Will it pay off? And what's the potential threat to the payoffs of these other things? My health relationships my main mission. All right my friend. I hope that you enjoyed that. Best of episode. Was that inspiring where you fired up. Did you love it if you did? Make sure you do me a favor. Go out on social media somewhere and share that episode. Just go posted somewhere yourself listening to make sure you. Hashtag the Brendan Show. Because when you do that I can look you up and we could find you on instagram posts that in the social media and sometimes we do all expense. Paid trips to people we find. We just randomly select people. We sent him gifts autograph books. Swag t shirts. All expense paid trips to semi seminars. To make sure you you let us know share what you thought about this episode out there on Social Media Worlds and then we can find you and celebrate. Ya and also I would love to invite you to join us in our high-performance monthly program. So just go to Brendan Dot com forward slash monthly. That's Brendan Dot Com forward slash monthly. That's where we deeper dive trainings. Like you just heard but we do that every single month and there are some live. Qna there and I do some giveaways and we give students in that monthly program tickets to my seminars and some extra special training on leadership. So make sure you check it out at Brennan Dot Com forward slash monthly. I appreciate you being part of this community of so many people dedicated to find that drive of motivation and practicing high performance habits so they can become extraordinary in their careers in your personal life in your health. You can live extraordinary quality of life and sometimes you just need a little bit more training and a little bit more nudge. A little more energy a little bit more drive and consistency. And I'm hoping that being part of this community with the Brennan show. I'm providing that to you in some way. So thank you my friend for listening. I look forward to seeing you or listen in on the next episode of the B. R. And D. O. N. Show

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How to shift your mindset and choose your future | Tom Rivett-Carnac

TED Talks Daily

17:19 min | 9 months ago

How to shift your mindset and choose your future | Tom Rivett-Carnac

"Hi It's Ted talks daily. I'm Elise Hugh Environmentalist. Tom Rivett CARNAC is a leading voice on the climate crisis. But his talk for Ted Twenty twenty. The prequel is not just about reducing emissions. It's about overcoming feelings of powerlessness and finding meaning even when we can't control certain outcomes. Tom Is in southern England. Not far from the dense woods where he goes for walks. He gave his stubbornly optimistic and energetic tedtalk from there even in these painful times he really inspired me to feel more hopeful by the end. Today's episode is brought to you by the frontline dispatch as people around the world face new realities amid the deadly cove in nineteen pandemic. Frontline the acclaimed. Pbs documentary outlet has launched a new podcast series. That presents personal and profound stories from the front lines of this historic outbreak covering corona virus. Offers a unique lens into how the corona virus is threatening communities at this moment and reveals the complicated real human stories that are emerging from every corner of this pandemic search for the frontline dispatch. Wherever you get your podcasts like Hof humanity. I've spent the last four weeks on the lockdown due to the global pandemic created by covert nineteen. I'm extremely fortunate that during this time I've been able to come to these words near my home. In southern England. Words have always inspired me and humanity now tries to think about how we can find the inspiration to retake control of our actions. So that terrible things. Don't come down the road without us taking action to avert them. I thought this is a good place for us to talk. And I'd like to begin that story six years ago when I first joined the United Nations now. I firmly believe that the UN is of unparalleled importance in the world right now to promote collaboration and cooperation. But what they don't tell you when you join is that this is central. Work is delivered mainly in the form of extremely boring meetings. Extremely long boring meetings. Now you may feel that you have attended some long boring meetings in your life and I'm sure you have that these. Un meetings our next level and everyone who works approaches them with a level of calm normally only achieved by Zen masters but myself. I wasn't ready for that. I joined expect teen drama and tension and breakthrough. What I wasn't ready for was a process that seemed to move at the speed of Iglesia at the speed. That IGLESIA. Houston you that now. In the middle of one of these long meetings I was handed a note and it was handed to me by my friend and colleague and Co Author Christiana Garris Cristiana was the executive secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change and as such had overall responsibility for the UN reaching. What would become the Paris Agreement? I was running political strategy for her so when she handed to me this note. I assume that it would contain detailed political instructions of how we were going to get out of this nightmare. Quoque Ma that we seem to be trapped in. I took the note and looked at it. It said painful but let's approach with love now. I love this note for lots of reasons. I love the way the little tendrils are coming out from the word painful. It was really good visual depiction of how. I felt at that moment but I particularly love it because as I looked at it I realized that it was a political instruction and that if we were going to be successful this was how we were going to do it so let me explain what I've been feeling in. Those meetings was actually about control. I had moved my life from Brooklyn New York to Bonn in Germany with the extremely reluctant supported my wife. My children went out in a school where they couldn't speak the language. And I thought the deal for all this disruption to my world was that I would have some degree of control of what was going to happen. I felt fears that the climate crisis is the defining challenge of our generation. And here I was ready to play my part and do something for humanity but I put my hands on the levers of Control that I've been given pulled them and nothing happened. I realized the things I could control were menial day-to-day things. Do I ride my bike to work? And where do I have lunch whereas the things that we're gonNA determine whether we were going to be successful were issues like will Russia wreck? The negotiations will China take responsibility for their emissions will the US help poorer countries deal with their burden of climate change. The differential felt so huge. I could see no way I could bridge to. It felt futile began to feel that I've made a mistake began to get depressed but even in that moment I realized that what I was feeling had another similarities to what I felt when I first found out about the climate crisis years before I'd spent many of my most formative years as a Buddhist monk in my early twenties but I left the monastic life because even then twenty years ago. I felt that the climate crisis was already a quickly unfolding emergency and I wanted to do my part but once I laughed and I rejoined the world. I looked at what I could control. It was the few tons of my own emissions that of my immediate family which political party. I voted for every few years whether I went on March or two and then I looked at the issues that would determine the outcome and they were big geopolitical negotiations massive infrastructure spending plans. What everybody else did? The differential again felt so huge that I couldn't see any way that I could bridge it. I kept trying to take action. But it didn't really stick. It felt futile. Now we know that this can be a common experience for many people. And maybe you've had this experience when faced with an enormous challenge that we don't feel we have any agency or control over. Our mind can do a little trick to protect us. We don't like to feel like out of control facing big forces so our mind will tell us. Maybe it's not that important. Maybe it's not happening in the way that people say anyway or it plays down our own role. There's nothing that you individually can do. So why try? But there's something odd going on here. Is it really true that humans will only take sustained and dedicated action on an issue of paramount importance? When they feel they have a high degree of control the caregivers and nurses who have been helping humanity face the corona virus covert ninety as it has swept around the world as a pandemic in the last few months. Are these people able to prevent the spread of the disease? No are they able to prevent patients from dying some. They will have been able to prevent but others. It will have been beyond their control. Does that make their contribution futile and meaningless? Actually it's offensive even to suggest that what they are doing is carrying for their fellow. Human beings moments of greatest vulnerability and that work has huge meaning the courage and humanity that those people are demonstrating makes that work some of the most meaningful things that can be done as human beings even though they can't control the outcome. Now that's interesting because it shows us that humans are capable of taking dedicated and sustained action even when they can't control the outcome but it leaves us with another challenge with the Climate Crisis. The action that we take is separated from the impact of it whereas these being sustained not by the lofty goal of changing the world but by the day to day satisfaction of caring for another human being through that moments of weakness with the climate crisis. We have this huge separation. It used to be separated by time. The impacts of the climate crisis was supposed to be way off in the future but right now the futures come to meet. Us continents are on fire cities going underwater countries going underwater. Hundreds of thousands of people are on the move as a result of climate change but even if those impacts and no longer separated from us by time they're still separated from us in a way that makes it difficult to feel that direct connection. They happen somewhere else to somebody else or to us in a different way than we're used to experiencing so even though that story of the nurse demonstrates something to us about human nature we're going to have to find a different way of dealing with the climate crisis in a sustained manner. There is a way that we can do this. A powerful combination of a deep and supporting attitude that when combined with consistent action can enable whole societies take dedicated action in a sustained way towards a shared goal. It's been used to great effect throughout history. So let me give you a historical story to explain it right now. I'm standing in the woods near my home in southern England and these particular words are not far from London eighty years ago. That city was under attack in the late nineteen thirties. The people of Britain would do anything to avoid facing the reality that Hitler would stop at nothing to conquer Europe fresh. With memories from the First World War they were terrified of Nazi aggression and would do anything to avoid facing that reality in the end the reality broke through. Churchill is remembered for many things and not all of them positive but what he did in those early days of the war was he changed the story. The people of Britain told themselves about what they were doing and what was to come where previously there had been trepidation and nervousness and fear that came aecom resolve an island alone a greatest our greatest generation a country that would fight on the beaches and in the hills and in the streets a country. That would never surrender that change from fear and trepidation to facing the reality whatever it was an however dock. It was had nothing to do with the likelihood of winning the war. There was no news from the front. The battles were going better even at that point that a powerful new ally had joined the fight and change the odds in their favor. It was simply a choice. A deep determined stubborn form. Optimism emerged. Not Avoiding or denying the darkness that was pressing in but refusing to be cowed by it. That stubborn optimism is powerful. It is not dependent on assuming that the outcome is going to be good or having a form of wishful thinking about the future however what it does is it animates action and infuse it with meaning we know that from that time despite the risk and despite the challenge it was a meaningful time full of purpose and multiple accounts of confirmed that actions that ranged from pilots in the battle of Britain to the simple active pulling potatoes from the soil became infused with meaning. They were animated tool a shared purpose and a shared outcome. We have seen that throughout history. This coupling of a deepen determined stubborn optimism with action when the optimism leads to a determined action then they can become self-sustaining without the stubborn optimism. The action doesn't sustain itself without the action. The stubborn optimism is just an attitude. The two together can transform an entire issue and change the world. We saw this multiple other times. We saw it. When Rosa Parks refused to get up from the bus we saw in Gandhi's long-sought marches to the beach. We saw it when the suffragette said that courage calls to courage everywhere and we saw it. When Kennedy said that within ten years he would put a man on the moon that electrified generation and focus them on a shared goal against the dark and frightening advisory even though they didn't know how they would achieve it in each of these cases a realistic and gritty but determined stubborn. Optimism was not the result of success. It was the cause of it that is also how the transformation happened on the road. To the Paris Agreement those challenging difficult pessimistic meetings transformed as more and more people decided that this was our moment to dig in and determined that we would not drop the ball on our watch and we were delivered. The outcome that we knew was possible. More and more people transform themselves to that perspective and began to work and in the end that worked its way up into a wave of momentum that crashed over us and delivered many of those challenging issues with a better outcome than we could possibly have imagined and even now years later with a climate denier in the White House much that was put in motion in those days is still unfolding and we have everything to play for in the coming months and years on dealing with the climate crisis so right now we are coming through one of the most challenging periods in the lives of most of us the global pandemic has been frightening whether personal tragedy has been involved or not but is also shaken our belief that we are powerless in the face of great change in the space of a few weeks we mobilized to the point where half humanity took drastic action to protect the most vulnerable. If we're capable of that maybe we have not yet tested. The limits of what humanity can do when it rises to me a shed challenge. We now need to move beyond this narrative of powerlessness. Because make no mistake. The climate crisis will be orders of magnitude worse than the pandemic if we do not take the action that we can still take to avert the tragedy that we see coming towards us. We can no longer afford the luxury of feeling powerless. The truth is that future. Generations will look back at this precise moment with all as we stand at the crossroads between a regenerative future and one where we have thrown it all away and the truth is that a lot is going pretty well for us in. This transition cost clean. Energy are coming down cities. Transforming land is being regenerated people on the streets calling for change with verve and tenacity. We have not seen for a generation. Genuine success is possible in this transition and genuine failure is possible to which makes this the most exciting time to be alive. We can take a decision right now that we will approach this challenge with a stubborn form of gritty realistic and determined optimism. And do everything within our power to ensure that we shape the path as we come out of this pandemic towards a regenerative future. We can all decide that we will be hopeful beacons for humanity. Even if there are dark days ahead and we can decide that we will be responsible. We will reduce our own emissions by at least fifty percent in the next ten years and we will take action to engage with governments and corporations to ensure they do what is necessary coming out of the pandemic to rebuild the world that we want them to right now. All of these things are possible. So let's go back to that boring meeting room where I'm looking at that note from Christiana and looking at it took me back to some of the most transformative experiences of my life. One of the many things I learned as among is that a bright mind and joyful heart is both the path and the goal in life. This stubborn optimism is a form of applied love. It is both the world we want to create and the way in which we can create that world and it is a choice for all of us choosing to face this moment with stubborn. Optimism can fill our lives with meaning and purpose and in doing so. We can put a hand on the arc of history and bend it towards the future that we choose yes living now feels out of control if feels frightening and scary a new but let not falter at this most crucial of transitions. That is coming at US right now. Let's face it with stubborn and determined optimism. Yes seeing the changes in the world right now can be painful but let's approach it with love. Thank you pay Tedtalk Staley listeners. I'm Adam Grant. I host another podcast from Ted. It's called work-life and it's about the science of making work not so next time everyone hates job interviews. 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Best Of: Remove The Non-Essentials

THE BRENDON SHOW

23:43 min | 1 year ago

Best Of: Remove The Non-Essentials

"Hey, my friends it's Brennan Bouchard and welcome to a best of addition of the Brendan show. These best of episodes feature training that I have done live sometimes online to tens of thousands of people or live on stage where I was speaking on some sages across the world, or these might be some of my monthly training programs and highlights of those that I do every single month with our monthly students. So I know you're gonna really enjoy these because these are a little bit more of a deep dive look at some of my training as a personal and professional development trainer. I've focused so much on helping find that deeper level of motivation as practicing some of those high performance habits will you hear me talk about many of those concepts in these special episodes here. These are my best of trainings only and exclusively right here on the Brendan show. So I hope you enjoyed the please know that as you hear me speak in many of these you'll hear me reference something because sometimes all have been training live or on video or on stage or through broadcast. So you might not be able to see something I'm suggesting. Motion tool or maybe even drawing out on on a flip chart or motion towards on presentation. But you'll get the gist of it. So make sure you bust your journal take some good notes here because this is really valuable insights on the mindset of the strategy that you need to Dopp in order to improve your life. And if you want to go and get more content like this but much more deeper and have more of an interactive relationship with me in this type of training. Make sure your join our high performance monthly training program. That's our monthly subscription program. Where I go live with you and our high-performance students every single month, and I train on a new topic. Or a new piece of research that we've created from the high performance institute, and I train on that. And then I do Kyun a and actual live coaching and interactive coaching with people every single month that's called high performance monthly, and you could access it at Brendan dot com forward slash monthly. That's brandon. Dot com forward slash monthly B R E N D O N dot com Ford slash monthly to get deeper dive training similar to this. So if you like this, you would love that training program. But without further ado, let's jump in right now to one of the Brennan shows best of trainings. Remove the non essentials. I really believe if you just got good at this. This would be one of those needle moving strategies or skills. If you will that helps everything else work better in high-performance sort of parlance, we talk about this as a metal skill as this skill. If you're good at this one you're going to the rest of these things because this is where most people really struggle. They have so much of their day eaten up by non essential things and non essential things is not only is it functionally non essential leaning. You don't have to do it. Right. It's not serving any end outcome or cause. But it's not essential. Because it doesn't bring you any joy or in the greatest single incident of my life outside of having. My my blessed relations with my family and friends is my car accident. Because at nine teen. It made me understand very clearly what we're not essentials for me. A non essential is anything that doesn't help me feel like I'm fully alive. I'm living my life or my calling or truth. It's things that I know are important to my relationships at all. And they're things that doesn't matter in terms of matter. Make a difference doesn't make me feel a sense of of pride or satisfaction or joy that I contributed them. I just got very clear of what doesn't matter because you know, if you've ever been in a hospital bed. It's very clear what doesn't matter. What you think all these things matter, and, you know, a lot of non essentials if people think matter stuff as an example, you know, they spent all this time organizing creating buying Gidding categorizing researching stuff like I can't tell you how many people spend so much time on stuff. F- don't be browser because most of the time when we say competing interests, I'm gonna soom from the star from the get-go. We're talking about real interests of yours things that you are really passionate about things that really matter to you. That's why it's hard to choose because these things are all important, but if you're trying to juggle in with all the important things things are not important at all. They're going to do is they're going to eat away at your nation of success like termites at the foundation of a home like little bites. The little twenty minutes or fifteen minutes or five minutes at this person looks at these magazines that are just stuff. I mean, nothing to the person's life. They're not looking to shop. They're not looking to buy anything. They're just kind of. Well, this thing showed up in in my house. So I guess I have to look at it like a stupid consumer just takes whatever is given to them eats it because it's there is like, okay. I don't want to be more. Than that. Just because someone puts something in front of you doesn't mean you look at it. So for those who are browsing all day long on Facebook. Like, I got nothing else do and then later on you complain. I'm so, busy and overwhelmed. No, that's your problem. It's your inability to manage your time in your tension towards things that are essential to you. And that's what bothers me at this day and age, frankly, it's very difficult to be a compassionate coach right now because I'm still busy over. Well, what are you doing? They're looking at Facebook for twenty thirty forty minutes a day, a Mike what that's because you're not managing your minds addiction to the dopamine drop. That comes every time. You see something new because right? This is a variety machine and variety machine. That is just like a hamster connected. Running on something for food pellet. This is your food pellet for your brain today. And because it's fun people. Spend twenty thirty forty minutes in our two three four hours a day. Day browsing. And then they have the gall to say, you don't understand how stressed I if you'd understand busy. You know, what I understand is you've never mastered. This meta skill of removing the non essentials. It's very very important. What does not matter must not be on your plate, and you need to stop putting it there? Because what it's doing again, I'm talking about competing interests. Please recognize the context here is if you got interesting important to you, and you're juggling all those unimportant things. It's going to wreck you all those little distraction pieces, they add up. You've heard me say if you've been forms academy that the average American watches four hours of television a day. Now, four hours of television is over a decade of their life. Twenty four seven in front of the boot to doing nothing that is meaningful to them per se. It's. Cool to have escape I don't mind escape, but make sure the escape is something that you feel is going to revitalize you in a real significant way, you know, it's like I tell people. Well, I just I'm I'm really fried, man. I just need to watch our TV I'm like, you know, what go take an hour of yoga. I'm really fried right now, man. I just you know. I just I'm I'm going to do some other scape. Ism like video game. I'm like, you know, what go meditate because there's going to be benefits to that yoga and the met benefits to that meditation that are going to multiply your later performance where there's gonna be no benefit to blatant consumerism. And I think it's really important for people to understand today. 'cause they're getting lost in the digital stream. They're drowning in the digital stream. And yet they're saying that they're so busy. They're really not. And so identify the things that you can remove and for me, you know, I just removed so many things I used to think were important because so many times my life. I've lost somebody or been in a hospital bed or I've moved. I'm sure you've done to right. You remember that last time you moved and you've got rid of so much stuff. And you like I so don't need this. How how freeing that was getting rid of stuff? You know, if you haven't read like essential ISM, a book called essentially them or the life changing magic of tidying up read those two books. It will just help you get in a new mindset or or even read like a another book called vagabond ING read, those three books just to get back in your mind. Like, right. I need to get down to the core things in my life. They're important. You know, one of the reasons the zen masters were so zen is because they weren't collecting lots of stuff they weren't being distracted by lots of things. You know, you you work with high level masters in any sport. They're not trying to do thousand things they're actually very minimalist. And I think that today becoming a little bit more focus on the centralism or minimalism. I think will help serve you being able to manage the things that matter the most on constantly evaluating what's. Not essential. And I evaluate the non essentials based on a bigger picture of my purpose. And we're talking about some of the goals, I have, but I just kind of think about my life in a continual basis in terms of legacy because I faced the end of my life. So many times that I've had to say what really matters to help people. Remember me? What my real contributions really matter from me, you know. And getting rid of the things that aren't unique to you. Or won't really move the needle the plate the things that you're replaceable on let let somebody else do it. You the things that are essential to you, contributing your unique ability or your unique purpose or your unique joy, focus more on those and learn to say no to the rest. Learn to get rid of those let me give you example. That wouldn't most people would not call a non essential. But I labeled right away. I've been offered probably seven or eight major television shows in my career, and it's almost not to be flippant. But it's the easiest fastest. No. Because to me, I recognize all the non essential things that would come into my life from having to have like a daily talk show as an example, which you've been offered it's like on major networks. It's like, yeah. That'd be interesting. But I don't want doctor Phil's life, Dr Oz live nothing. I mean, I think those guys are great. But I don't want their life. I don't wanna call time every day. We're have to be onset every day, not saying, those aren't valuable and important and reaching millions of people, but all the non essentials of to get up get makeup, do all these things have a schedule teaching topics just because it supports the sponsor or supports the produce. Need how she's like I don't want all those things like it's not essential to me. So it was an easy. No. But in every area my life. I'm like what's not essential. Let me get another example. We're about to start shooting here on location. We're up in the woods where were you know, miles and miles and miles from town. And you know, what I used to do when I first started filming here with I would drive here every morning, and that commute was kind of whacking me out like making me tired, and I figured out just recently. I was like, well, this is silly that I'm driving out here in the way of doing. A course as an example all drive out every morning and drive back in every night. And I just thought this is crazy, and I found a little crappy hotel that's not too far away that I can just go there and stay instead of going all the way back to my home because it's taking out this commute. It's not essential that I get back home every night to do that. I can say, you know, what? I'm gonna take three nights this crappy little hotel. But at least I'm not gonna have to be commuting for an extra hour day, or whatever it is. So how can you remove everything? So good way to think about non essentials. I know I'm going off on this. But this is like I said, a medical is looking everything you're doing in your life is a habit and say what if I cut that out or I could cut that out, and I cut out a commute. Maybe I can't count cut out a commute five days a week. But could I work from home two days a week? What if I'm watching ten hours television day a week? What if I could strip that down to just one hour a day? What if I'm cooking all my meals? And instead, I said, you know, what I'm going to have meals delivered at least once a day. What if I mean, what is what else can you do that will bring more convenience into your life and strip out something that you'd think you have to do you don't. Because I really think that is powerful, you know, go read another book recommendation towards this is like the four hour workweek from TIMMY, Tim Ferriss absolutely necessary to get rid of stuff. You know? I think people really struggle here. And a lot of people's overwhelm has nothing to do with the competing interests. It has to do with all the garbage in between that they throw in. And they don't realize could easily get ten hours a week back. I mean think about that you got ten hours a week back to focus on these central's you'd be a weapon, and that's how personally I've gotten so far in my life is recognizing the non essentials. So I want to be the new thing about this is simple point system that might serve you in. How you're thinking through. Are two competing interests. So what I'd like you to do is defined to projects feel equally important to you right now. So maybe you're saying okay to do things and feel important to me in my industry might be do. I started book or do. I start a blog. Right that it's like that. Question all the time. Which one first Brendan the answer is doesn't really matter. There's no finite answer to that. It's up to you. Let me get point system for figuring that out. Okay. I'm just going to four different criteria. So if you would just do me, a favor pull out your piece of paper and write on one side, something you're thinking of doing and on the other side, something you're thinking of doing and these are things you just try let your they're competing. I don't know which one to do or which one to give the most time to or which one will be the most value. Okay. So trying to think of something like that those two competing interests are competing values competing up -tunities, and I'm going to give you four categories and you're going to rank them on a scale of one to five one to five. Here we go on that skip the first back there. I want you to measure and give yourself a five points on is what we call being goals. Now being goal means. This is something that you feel like. If you do it it will develop character in your life. And it will in other words, it makes you a better person. And it also aligns with your self expression. What's unique to you? And also it gives you a sense of satisfaction. Right. So by doing this is more me that's kind of how you think about this is more me and will feel more satisfying. If I do it now both might get five points or maybe one gets five when gets four I don't know what it is for you. But it's the one that says this this aligns with my goals for being like what I want of me and life and how I wanna feel and what I wanted spread. And what's unique to me does one rate higher than the other? It's okay. If they both rate the same, but it's likely one rates a little higher than the next is what we call our connection goals. This is our connection in terms of relationship. To the world to others. Like does one is one better for your relationships? Does one bring you closer to people is one better for your relationships or does one bring you closer to people? That's our connection goals. Right. Are human relating goals is one up you connect or come closer to people again, that's the scale of one to five. So if you think about where ten possible points right now in each category, right? This one could have ten points because you've got five points for being in five points for connecting this other one that could also have ten points five points for being five points for connecting. Adding the next one is creating or giving goals to me. It's the same thing giving or contribution is the same to me. As creating literally means, I don't differentiate them because in order to give something you have to cry. Express yourself in order to contribute. Something tangible. You have to create the PowerPoint crate book create the message create the movement, whatever you creating something that contributes or gives to the world, right? So which ones what scores high on your creating or giving or contributing goals one two five and one means not at all, by the way, five assuming you that? Last piece growing goals, which one of these things would genuinely stretch you. It's like outside of your current ability. Maybe more than the other one it's difficult. It will bring struggle. It will force you develop new competency, meaning knowledge skill ability hundreds, okay, which one's going to really push you. Okay. So you take all those and you add them up, and whichever one scores higher, whichever one scores higher is the one that's going to give you what psychologists would call that intrinsic sense of meaning right? It's going to it's going to be that thing that just it. It feels right for you to do and you should focus on your previous measure, right? You're payoffs. This is really about time external benefits. This one so much is about more intrinsic, meaning than just, you know, 'cause payoffs can be very external extrinsic rewards intrinsic rewards you follow. So that's why Matvey measurable time. You know, this is time less these things are important by so everyone you think through these competing interests and just raid one to five, and I'll bet if you do that one of those things ends up more important the other. Now, the question has will what if one of these things more important the other? But the payoff seems better on the other one in terms of timing. Well, it just depends. I knock off a lot of a lot of things is score. Guess what? If it scores low on this. It's a non essential get rid of it. It should I shouldn't even be considering where it might fit in terms of payoffs because it's just not necessary. Get rid of that thing. Just get rid of it. You'll be. Super happy. But I do believe if you can master that medical getting rid of the non essentials and learn to find out what is the essential because they rank high on that point system. I gave you and the payoffs you really clarified. Why you are doing what you are doing. Why are you doing it? What's the pay off your if you're clear on those things you're going to get better at life? Okay. I'm so thankful that you're here every single month. I'm trying to bring a new framework to every single month. Appreciative of you being here today on your own path personal mastery by joining us again until then go out there every single day of your life, lip fully love openly, make difference. Yielded? All right, my friend. I hope that you enjoyed that. Best of episode was that inspiring where you fired up. Did you love it? If you did make sure you do me, a favor cloud on social media somewhere and share that episode. Just go out posted somewhere post yourself listening to make sure you hash tag, the Brendan show because when you do that I can look you up, and we could find you on Instagram posts in the social media. And sometimes we do all expense paid trips to people we find we just randomly select people. We sent him gifts autograph books swag t shirts all expense paid trips to some seminars. So make sure you you let us note share what you thought about this episode out there on the social media world. And then we can find you. And celebrate you and also I would love to invite you to join us in our high-performance monthly program. So just go to Brendan dot com forward slash monthly. That's Brendan dot com. Ford sash monthly that's where we do deeper dive trainings like you just heard, but we do that every single month and. There's some live QNA there. And I do some giveaways, and we give students in that monthly program. Tickets to my seminars and some extra special training on leadership. So mixture check it out at Brennan dot com Ford slash monthly. I appreciate you being part of this community of so many people dedicated to find that deeper drive of motivation and practicing high performance habits. So that they can become extraordinary in their careers in your personal life in your health. You can live in extraordinary quality of life. And sometimes you just need a little bit more training and a little bit more nudge, a little more energy a little bit, more drive, and consistency. And I'm hoping that being part of this community with the Brennan show. I'm providing that to you in some way. So thank you, my friend for listening. I look forward to seeing you or listen in on the next episode of the B R E N D O N show.

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Febate Amongst Friends Season 4 Episode 43

Debate Amongst Friends With Doc & Prof

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Febate Amongst Friends Season 4 Episode 43

"Sportscenter. Lazy Gentlemen Welcome back to among friends I'll deep Co over here is back leased that the podcasting beasts and ready to provide you with another fun edition of Sports News, analysis the reads. Welcome back again, Ladies and gentlemen to another edition of debate amongst rans. I will be going over your Daily News Topics, and the reeds of a before. We get to that. We definitely wanted to pay our respects to those. We have lost over the past week. Unfortunately, the passing of young opposite Lyman Max Turk. Who played for the chargers in USC Trojans? We definitely want you wish condone this to him and his family as well as fans all over the world. and. We also wish to send stones' duty. Friends family of NFL GREAT JIM KICK AFL, all-star at former two time superbowl winning. Running back for the Miami, dolphins who fortunately lost his battle with Alzheimer's he was part of the perfect season of a super bowl, seven against a Redskins, where he scored the decisive touchdown for Miami's perfect seasons superwoman. At this time we would like to give a second moment of silence to remember those lost this week and weeks prior. Thank you, thank you. And thank you so much. Ladies and Gentlemen Fortuna back into West's for debate among friends Year, along with Cross and Coded continues to kick. Sports worlds but I mean we just It's not even just the sports world, but I mean the world in general, but I mean it seems like because we're in such. A microscope sports is just taking a hit in every former. And I agree. It's. Time to get worse before it start gets better. And I don't know if it's because of you know places opening too early places opening with either limited resources are lack of plan but it just seems like certain areas are just like. I hate the hayward hotspot first and foremost. Because I feel like. People are using that in a positive and negative connotation, so it's like Oh, i. don't live in a hot spot so I. Don't have to follow the rules or live in a hot spot. In some people don't care in this. Don't follow the rules. Anyway to me is a hot spot is like you go outside. It's a hot hotspot. Es, you know what I mean. We've talked about this over the last couple of weeks. You have to treat it like it's Randy Orton given an Arcadio. It could come out of anyway. I feel like it's more of a Bob back win and you know you might not be expecting it, but wanted latches onto you. I mean it's hard to take off. I sounds like that old master lock, but we're. We're diving way to. Say, we're not to go straight into metric now. Chris Jericho be Milenko thousand holds right now. That's the. We had a lot of interesting things happen. I know earlier today. somebody that we talked about last week Nikola Jokic each yet I've actually tested positive for coronavirus, and he's actually in Serbia, and of course naturally is returned to the US would be delayed. Typically. What fourteen days I think is what typically people are quarantine for. So. Among him? You know NBA Sean Return. Ever players opting and we talked this stream, so people opting not to return. To basketball. Some people opting for surgeries. Instead of going back to play I. Think Trevor. Rees opted for custody of his son for a month Yup. And I don't blame them. Because the more we look like the more people are being. Infected here well, and not only that but things that's going on in Florida. Does it make things better because of the? Insane spice. That happened in that state. Well and this is the part that kind of gets me because I to me. It's not insane. It's kind of like. Anything else like the how you know how they say in moderation. Everything's Okay Yep out, but it's like. If you just say you know what forget it, we're open. I would. Yeah I would expect that'd be a spike I mean it's open. Nobody and they were opened before. The government there sent a should be open. People were out at the beach. You know people were at at the bars. People were out there listen. We're not doing this and. They don't it's almost like people didn't care. Even though you know, the coronavirus is very serious like. You know you see people. You've seen anybody who has that. You've witnessed them. Talk about how our breathe or how? Tough, it was on their body mentally and physically. You know it's not a joke and then especially got these hospitals in these healthcare workers you know. Shout out to them of course absolutely. But they're busting their bets trying to not only heal people in comfort them, but then they're also trying not to get sick themself. So and I. Okay workers who are putting this position for people. WHO. Are Getting Sake simply for the fact that they don't want to stay in the house. Yeah, yeah, I mean. We talked about this a lot of time to stream like. We. Don't have to go outside. Guess what we're going to be folks in our thanks. NOPE! Not a police not obeying to do nothing you know I mean. Somebody asked me that they have planned on taking pto off from the job and I'm like I ain't going away, nope. So just to sit at home. You know we're working from home already. Like what? What is the difference you now? I mean for me. I'm more wondering whether or not you know. A lot of places will actually reimburse people for not using their PTO's. If if it's in I, think if it's in the policy already like my company policy where you can carry over, and you get a a payout for certain them out, I think it depends on. That's a great question. Open I listen I. Listen. Hey John Tomorrow and or I mean not only do we help people out with it comes to sports. Do it for work to. Yeah always looking out for you. Folks but speaking Florida we had. at least two buccaneer players as well as one or two of these staff has positive for the coronavirus and about it is. The thing about the corona virus. That's Kinda. Crazy is that you know since it started in March? It feels like it's. Different. I want to say different strands. I really don't but. I feel like everybody's body is taking differently. If you, if be relatively healthy having going on, it's like some people are just like now. You know I feel fine, you know. You have pre existing conditions are like you know it's terrible, so I'm not one hundred percent sure and I don't know. They even know what's really going on. You know because somebody like you know. God forbid one of us have it unless they one of us had it over the last three months that we didn't even know because we didn't show any of the symptoms. You know what I mean, but that's why people keep saying for everybody to wear mask, because if I can habit not showing any symptoms and still pattern in that call being a carrier. Yeah. That's crazy. 'cause like just because your carrier doesn't mean you get sick. It just means that you're the person that's going to spray to other people for them to get exactly, and that's why that's the wildest thing to me of this whole thing. And I think that. Plays a role in why you know so many people are just out. Just you know just saying you know what forget everyone be out here. which is. What I was reading. It was a lot of. People in a twenty year percentile twenty. Year old range, actually doing on. NFL now. They can't stay in the house you know. Probably longer than two three days and out there, and even if you try to social distance, you know you go to a party that I'm sorry. There's no, so she this party, no party at all. If how far they can be anytime, party. Year at least three to four feet within that three to four feet range. I'm just not buying it. Lightly there. Very very lightly very very lightly, so just a quick statement here from the bucks. I know in particular who had a couple of positive testing Of course there? They have their response plan. They GONNA close down. Their. Particular Training Center. Of course, you're going to sanitize and everything. I think this is something that we've mentioned previously like at this point. You have to think about. The way you clean thing yes. Compared to how you used sickly things like you know I know some people in definitely in a meeting new people because some of the bathrooms that they have between are really really terrible. Hard. To speak from firsthand experience trusty. Eight I'm this speaking from the male perspective, but from what I heard. The female bathroom sometimes can be really really bad debts by it. Let's Von. Though To the maintenance staff, but Making sure that bear Najjar. You know signing that paper saying that they cleaned the bathroom. Win and really reality haven't really done. The necessary jazz major sanitize. Certain. Little things like that back I'm going to have to be cleared up and you know more. Stricter enforcement of a hey, listen you. Don't skip anything. I don't skip a fame. Because it's fatal at this point. but motoring here, so we definitely had not only people in Tampa also had PHOENIX. Phoenix Suns players who tested positive for coronavirus will which of course they shut down. Their practice their voluntary workouts and it's interesting, because a lot of the guys on the suns are pretty young. Wichita. Fall into that twenties range that you were just talking about. was is pretty interesting when you think about it. I mean. You said yourself they can't stay in saltire. And Kennedy even worse because like you know, there's a couple of states. Dad has increased bikes. And the two states that we were just talking about our Semedo states. Quote, unquote hat spats, which is. Used to tell you told us not to use the terrorists i. Say The you said it's. It's such a weird term because. If I, you gotTA. You GotTa be careful DOC leaser. He might just chase you down. Here. Doing this, yeah! But I don't know I'm thinking about this whole thing and. Since this outbreak started suspending me started. It's like. You know we've been giving several rules and. A now like well I. You know I'm washing my hands. You know I'm not touching my face where mass, but somebody boring even wearing their mad, so then you think about some of the other rules follow it. You know what I mean so. Exactly so it's pretty funny to me though that. You mention that age range because the next group that I saw this week was people from twenty one players on the clinch and Football Team Were found positive and I think the whole school from what this article says. Here ESPN staff writer. David Ale Sean Hill hopefully accurate. David on your countable. Three, hundred fifteen tests and twenty eight positives. Which is a good? Statistic. Between Twenty. Twenty. Three hundred is pretty good i. One. Dead enough all you need is run. One. I understand what you're saying, but Yes for them to have twenty three thousand nine hundred fifteen means that a majority of the people may have been practicing social, distancing your washing the hands, and then doing things the right way, the other twenty eight people not saying that they haven't been following the rules, but maybe something that they may have done. It could have been anything, or did you just didn't contact with all? What would they doing when they got in contact with them? Exactly and that's where I'm. That's what I'm saying so, but it's that that age range that you already stated which is which is crazy in that age range is what's GonNa Cause this to continue going on because people don't want to sit in home. And let this thing die down I. Mean I get it? Life is short. You Know Twenty twentieth flying by unions practically over already gone. Twenty twenty. I know. Over. In It seems like we went from you Monje to you know Bruce Almighty and somebody done granted everybody's wishes. Yes, you know what I mean because now talking about sandstorms and rallied. I'm just like what is the same as? Saying Yeah. So. It's a lot of stuff happening. Yes whether crazy. The ice cap is actually lowering as well. Is Crazy stuff happening to snuff happening I'm just happy I never got the chance and I'm saying very seriously. I'm happy. I never got a chance to witness. One of these murder Hornets 'cause I. Didn't WanNa do that? I still felt like that was just another way. That was the whole you know keys. Look at the keys, metality thing happening. And it wasn't good attempt, because because people were all over that and now I totally forgot about that. I am about that because I don't want to forget about it. All of a sudden I see some. What in the world that? Doc. Okay Around what do. Many dropping. Out The one that was. Come on. I just didn't want to wake you up. That day settled. Want to wake up, but he's going to have to buy brand new blondes. I'm swinging for the census. and. If, I build it, they come. Regular whatever I would have done, and I probably would have missed a few times. But it's. More stuff that happened in sports. We have. People signing contracts finally. Potential agreements. We do. We do I knew that last Kobe person that we didn't touch on this I know we always tennis lot here or debate among friends Novak jobs. him in his wife yet. Mistaken, which is pretty sad so hopefully how they are able to quarantine in. You know I get better. Which I think they're definitely going to do that like. Me I'm just wishing I. Wish everyone who contract the virus. You know, get healthy. He'll better soon. That's from both DOC Improv. Without question. But? Yes, you are correct. There are contract names on lease are moving. I don't know how. I. Don't know how this is all going to work. I mean I know. I said that baseball had the best ability a restarting, and it seems like they are actually on pace. Based on CBS sports here, they on pace to be set for a July twenty fourth return to baseball debts, but they said. Day! Stay came to a tentative agreement. On a sixty game season. Ron. I believe the players still get their full salaries season. I think that's I. think that's acceptable, but they have not settled on you. GotTa. Look at the you look at the fine print i. don't blame him. He's never know and then I like the fact that the NBA actually put a a contingent insurance plan. For the reopening because as we stated last week with them, opening up the NBA. Short time. You've got an off for so long. You know somebody gets hurt. That's ignorant as restart especially, there's a career ending injury which is easy, happen every and. I mean you compare quad? I'm you know I've been so bad so you know. You have? Those kind of things. So, I'm happy to the NBA that and I actually just now in the ticker looks like the rockets I've actually signed David Wa wa. two year deal who used to play for the nets, the Bulls and I believe the raptors. which is just pretty awesome so I mean it seems like there's a lot of news happening. That makes me believe that you know this might actually happen. Prophet believe it. Once it actually happens. I mean heck. We even had news of boogie cousins. Stop it folks. Yeah news of boogie cousins. But the last thing that I wanted to touch on at least my thing here that I have here on my little sheet is Jamal Adams requested a trade. which he's been disgruntled for quite some time i. don't know any wanted on the jets team. That's. Extremely happy to be on the jets now, no! Can't to absolutely frustrated. Yeah I think they made a mistake in possibly signing intriguing for Libya and Bill. I think that might have been part of the downfall. Don't get me wrong. He's a great player. Baheen might be the definition of a great system player. And hopefully be untrue folks. Bail can't be EFL beyond Washington. You know. Too soon. Just saying Jerusalem four to six weeks books. It's all right I. mean it make sure to check out gaming amongst rans because that's where you'll find him. But I mean ultimately feeling. Fully. Gaming among. Ultimately I feel like we are getting close. You know and I don't want them to push him. I. We know we're going to hear Tom Brady's. You know practicing with his players. You know we see people in the rack I, think somebody posted a video of Michael. Beasley strong in Iraq, you know. I I love it, but I want people to be at the same time. That's the problem is like we don't know house safe everyone after being like. Like, we see it now. People just being safe period. Yeah Yeah, but now people people what their sports back, but you know the players aren't taking care of themselves and make sure that those around the Mar- taking care of themselves like you're not GonNa have sports, folks and you can be about it, but ain't GonNa, happen. One. Testing. And, this show is over. Over yes Orlando is done. Even worse because there are so many. Leagues in companies happening in that bury st in. It's crazy. It's over one one positive test. That NBA return is over over. Our but. We'll continue to monitor what's going on? What's happening and Right, now we're GONNA. Take a quick break. You're listening to debate amongst friends on anchor. FM Ankara. M is a free and easy to use platform where you can record. Edit an post your show right from your phone or computer, and it will be automatically distributed to platforms such as apple podcasts as season podcast personalities. WE FOUND ANCHOR FM to be user friendly and resourceful, allowing us to create great shows and sound bites on the go. Last but not least anchor of 'em gives you an opportunity to monetize your podcast as they linke with potential sponsors, and you can potentially start making money by recording advertisements just like this. Kick Start Your podcasting journey today with Anchor FM by visiting their website at www dot anchor dot FM. And, we look forward to hearing your podcast. We're playing basketball. Where playing back skit. Basketball is Murphy Sport. We're GONNA. Continue on our review of the last dance talking about the Chicago Bulls, Michael Jordan and pretty much the timeline that led to the shot. I like this one I named this episode. The Zen Masters Triangle. I was GONNA. Say the Zen Masters. A. Not Reckoning was the right word out used these end masters. Come up in. The derived zen-master. Arises in, Rochester. I really love this because you know. Although we knew feel was into, you know, make sure Buddhism native American philosophy we. So forth by getting Ted. Know feel like I knew he plays the Knicks. S Great Nick Knickebocker. I knew he played for the Knicks. Knew, he was into. Buddhism! He was into all these things. You didn't know as much as a native American Cultures U. S.. Court. Bill De Drugs, Has No. That's just not something that we would have just no but at that time I mean a lot of movie jobs. Of course it was. It was a norm. Yeah, but I I really. Him and Dennis Rodman's relationship and how they attach. The Indian native American tribes, I'll just use in Indians because he said Indian. COPS versus Indians several times Indian Indian. In Their relationship was built on some of the things in his office in some of the philosophies that he learned and. He'll because it really opened him up to a possibility. And kinda motivates others like myself who try to be coaches? And Kinda just gives us an opportunity to say okay. Where able to coach in a different. I guess style. You know like I'll contribute Phil Jackson coaching the Bulls and although he might not be asked. Phil Jackson but to Tony Dungy. I can understand that be having away to. Rally the troops to motivate to inspire the players are out and making the players believe in what you're talking about. Right that's tough. It's very tough. Specify head coach. Yes, it's tough for any coach. I mean getting people to buy in. You know people don't buy in at all levels whether it's kids whether it's a male female, you know whatever sport is like you have to really. For people to buy in, and it's not, it's not easy. Is Not. Easy now now. But that's allowed his. Transition and his ascension. To mess that we all know and love, but being able to get a better understanding of the arise for him because he just go in their day one. You know, Hey, I'm this master Phil Jackson. You know soon to be. Nine time. Ten time MBA champion like it wasn't like that. Yeah I think a lot of people a lot of people. Like you know when he went, let's say when he went to the Lakers. Are you want a couple of championships as a player and a coach, but they're like you know. Koby are we love Kobe, but we're not getting Michael Jordan. Hopefully. He can come be successful and obviously we know that he was. But I love the fact that feel never. It didn't seem like at least from what I could see. It didn't seem like feel showed favouritism. Did you get any of that? No no and it goes back to like where people may believe the hugh show favoritism. He just had a way to. Manage different personalities, and and that's something that we talk about when it comes to business doc like being able to manage the different personalities to get the most out of him. Every you know say. That much you know about. Bill Belichick at about the way that he approached coaching like Phil Jackson was able to incorporate that same type of mindset. And I'm sure that I'm sure bill belichick got some of it from Phil. I'm sure feel it from bill. You know I'm sure. They took a lot of similarities. They probably met. You know because I know you know great coaches. Wait, they talk yeah. WanNa feed off of that other coaches knowledge and we keep talking about coaching trees like you'd be surprised. How deep lobbies coaching trees go and how intricate the trees! The roots of those trees interwoven with each other as well, too. And I. Know for sure that's a tree that I'd never looked like I mean we looked at a lot of. Coaches coaching trees in the past, but I know I've never looked at Phil Jackson's coaching tree. I know some of the players became coaches of course, but I never looked at the coaches under feel. Yes, I went on to coach s something that I've never looked at to make sure before we want. We are talking about episode four and five tonight. Right now we're on four, we're we just got back. You Know Rodman. They just got Robin back from Vegas. You know they're trying to get him back up to speed. You know but the one thing I enjoyed I. wanted to see you take on it. What did you feel about Michael Jordan? Take on the again. Holden quote Indian drill. where whoever is in the back of the drill had to sprint to the front at the whistle. About motivation. It's all about motivation like he wants the team to push themselves to be the best that they can be. And he's leading the way so if you think that you just going to be. Sitting in the back to be a free ride like you have another thing coming. I mean we've seen that with with a lot of championship teams. You know post at. This particular time frame. where, you, just have people, you know sitting at the end of the bench, just trying to collect the championship ring. Well. I can't believe you have those allergies. But I. Can't. She's spray that when she's that but you know the one thing that's interesting is that. The whole drill was. He wound up pushing is. Beyond their imagination because they felt he was gonNA come back in shape, but yeah I mean. I mean. Physically he he was. He was an people. Don't think about it that way like like people don't think beyond just what the media shows at all the fanfare stuff that he was doing like yet. Don't understand how serious. These players took game back then. You. Really don't understand folks. Which is why I'm happy that the series came out I am glad that we covered it now versus the time people were talking about because. The media wasn't talking about what these episodes are truly speaking on. The. But an issues to talk about. Not Very true. That's very true and you know I think at the time they had. Nothing compared to what we have today I mean now. People doing stupid stuff every day at this point. Because obviously the people to get their phones takeaway for them, but that goes without saying. That goes well well without saying. But we got a little bit deeper into Phil's coaching career starting in Puerto Rico after he went eight or eight to ten seasons with the Knicks, in Osaka coaching in Puerto Rico, which was crazy and wild. he moved into the CBS. They won the championship in nineteen. EIGHTY-FOUR YEP. and then he started his coaching career Bulls on the Doug Collins. Will you know it was interesting because it's like Dang, you know here's Doug Collins Replacement. He said it in the interview. You know saying that you know. He believed that bill could play. You know play could coach in the NBA, and could be a head coach, and it was interesting because of the whole texts winter was assistant coach or one of the the assistance on the team. You know him constantly telling Collins that he should change their gaming strategy. To more of a triangle and moving the ball it was interesting because of what happened with Kevin Mchale, of course with my Houston. Rockets who took them to the Western Conference finals and in the next season he got fired. which I mean the not GonNa go there because we can talk about that all day of course but doug. Collins took the bull so the Eastern Conference finals and he was fired for Phil Jackson Yup. So in retrospect I understand now I feel I. Don't feel great about it i. feel a little better. About it because I believe that Maceio probably did want the the rockets movable more. But. It was kind of the reverse. It was like instead of going to a guy who believes in team mentality. You go to a guy that believes in an individual one on one basketball. Yes, which is which is so crazy because you know team basketball over the last couple of years is kind of what had one no shame. Lebron. Stealing, aren't you who snack? Oh, they're. GonNa. Get to it because I. mean someone else from sad that I mean splitting image it was. It's exactly what we've been saying about Lebron, but we're not there yet. So Tex winter. Who Seem like the triangle offense guru. Old Phil, Jackson's. You know taking this opportunity to get mentor by great offense a mind. He learns it. He studies it. He practices that he puts it in motion near. You. Know obviously the teams I yo. We're not doing that. Get that out of here. You Know Doug. Collins is gone bill, don't. Triangle, you guys always trying to take the ball out of my hands I. kind of moves around a little bit it fast forwards or moves back a little bit to. The Scotty migraine game. Versus the Pistons. Yes. They lost that game And I remember watching Michael Jordan leave the court, and he had a towel on, and it was like covering kind of way, and it made me believe that. He was. Like He. I wonder if he ever considered leaving Chicago. Like seriously. I think it was always back this mind. You know what I mean like. It was always on the back of his mind. Then it was more because of what was happening in the front office. That kind of started out there. Like I think from a basketball standpoint like stuff that goes on court. I mean I think he felt like. In my opinion. that. You know he has more control of the outcome of the Games. No matter who is coaching. So I wouldn't say that. His mindset of leaving was more towards like that particular game by itself. But I know it was a combination of a lot of things that was happening off the court. That definitely didn't help. And definitely didn't and it's because even though I love the way the documentary is formatted. You know the way it makes it seem. Also also shows that. You know here. We have your Michael Scottie and somebody other guys. They're. Making this team into a winner, but when you fast forward, and you see how krause by almost throws the. Loyalty out of the window so fast. You will go either and the next seas. We definitely would. It is a way to build a team and it's like. Like you build a team. The goals could have been a best team like we're talking about. Not just repeat. We're talking about you know. Boston Celtics level. Combination, it could have been still to this day. Okay, that's far okay I'm sorry. House I so I so episode bore you know we Kinda. GET INTO IT they lose the Pistons again. You know. They say we're not taking a vacation. We're GONNA work out, but so we're GONNA change the way we play yet. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA. Adopt a adopt this triangle. We're GONNA adapt to it. We're going to learn it. Misses the second. I think this is the second year a triangle now where they're really going to buy into it. because. Mike's Alabama this. I'm shooting, but then he's I. It keeps hearing this thing where Mrs, the part where I was talking about Lebron, which I'm sure if anything, if anybody at all compared joined Lebron, it was just in this statement alone. Nothing else just a statement said one of the criticisms has been inge as a great player, but he can't leave his teammates to a championship. He can't make them better players. We've heard that before recently right recently exactly and not recently recently like. Yeah But the. And that's the only thing. that. I would say in both their careers. They've heard debt. This is not what we're doing and just wanted to point that out because I found that to be so interesting but they lost a lot of the Pistons. They went into off season. They said we're GONNA commit to the triangle. Everybody's not taking a break. We're all going to be in the gym Michael. PUTS team pounds of muscle because they busted them up. You know the Jordan rules slapping up. You know playing court de now. I don't blame them. And it. And then fast forward to. The next season where the Bulls in the Pistons meet up again. Sweet And then we get the quote unquote. Know handshake, no sportsmanship out to court. Which? That's rough. That's like the ultimate defeat. Yeah! Those kind of the changing of the guard as well to like. The whole phrase of like you know you could be a sore loser, but you could be worse winner. Right I mean one a lot. As I. View that. You don't do that, you don't you don't? But know, that's episode four in a nutshell, actually no, actually there's warm upon you get. Join versus magic at the end yet. Jordan versus magic, which was electrifying another. Maybe this whole playoffs really wasn't changing the gods. Yeah. It's started that transition. Yeah because an in granted, it wasn't finalized. Right exactly, and that's what I was GonNa say in the fact that this is the first season at the Bulls have made it to the finals an issue so happen to be the first season that you know Jordan wasn't focused primarily on scoring titles. Yes, and going heavily. He was focused on the team being number one. Yes. and. It makes a big difference it does. And it shows with you know, superstars. Basically changing their way that they approach to game. and become more team oriented rather than you know I. got this big contract that I wanna make because I just WanNa, make money or ordinances. Cracks Which? Sounds a lot like a lot of players actually Houston Rockets primarily to. I'd say live plays. I mean. It's pretty tough. It's tough. But, would you also keep minded a lot of players these days now? Unfortunately, mood episode, five men. A lot of players aren't. They aren't going to teams by themselves. Now. You know and that's where. As an issue there, they're teaming up. but I think that's a good Trans Trans. -sition like we can transition to absorb fiber that statement because we get a chance to see. Jordan versus Copay. Yes and I love the fact that they started off like that. That was a great opening. A and I've mentioned this before the park like I thought. This was my favorite episode so far. Not because of the cool thing. but they highlighted the Olympics. And that was the true transition that was when everyone realized okay. This is Michael Sleek now. I love that too because. Number One. You had. Twelve thirteen of the best basketball players at the NBA all. Like a Kanye obviously I can understand from the outside looking in why they wouldn't have included Isaiah. GABUM! I mean I don't know if he can see that, but I mean you're kind of a jerk. Too like they also wanted to. Portrayed USA basketball in a positive light. So like. It was more publicity. But we talk about the media and they just kept talking about. Jordan in. They like Jordan said that he won't play for the Dream Team if you upbringing, Zeya. Didn't say which he didn't say. He didn't say he didn't say that speculation highly speculation. Speculation. But. You know. We also not only got the Olympics where we got the the introduction of Jordan's. Do. and. You know I, think he was saying that he he didn't even take Nike's. Now you know interview which is true, that is true like a hundred I knew that before the episode like Yes that was well known, he did not want to be really liked the DITA's, which was true. Right right right and it's interesting because you're one. I think they said they were only expected to sell. It was like a low number like yeah, like two hundred thousand or something like that. Some ridiculous I think it wasn't a millions I. think it was like three million or something like that maybe ten task, but I mean one hundred and twenty six million. Rookie. Young S pretty crazy. Back back to the beginning just for a second year Koby I like the fact that Koby said I. Don't get five championships without. Thank you Kobe and what? Than saying this entire podcast life cycle. I did enjoy that part. I I mean the one. It was great to see Kobe like I'm I'm happy that he got a chance to do this before his unfortunate passing of course. But I mean that. Was Perfect because. People always talk about WHO's the go? S. And it goes back to what we said. Before are making players better. You know, and that's why I always like people like Kareem. Patrick Ewing Yep. Maceio some Cam. that. Alon. Take players under their wing. Spend time with him here. You're paying if you're paying them whatever you know, you're taking time to show these guys like. Hey, this is how you play. At. Goats that's greatness right there. Helping somebody else. Does you know to be great? You had to be service to others. I like the fact that their service servicing others yeah, Emma, and that's one of the things that people don't understand that Michael Ashley done like he has actually helped people, but people also need to ask. Like you can't. You can't be intimidated by the all. That is Michael Jordan like. If you WANNA. Get better. He'd more than happy to help. You get better especially towards the end of you know his time. Sexton of of the Bulls like cues mortem willing to do that. But for some reason, people are just saying well, you know about. The rains ended about the people better in you know. Now it's about what you do off the court. What. So I'm glad that in Kobe's always been. One hundred percent with things you know it's a shame that people who said so much to tarnish his name when he was alive, and now they're. Speaking praises now in his death, so it's highly hypocritical to do that. I love what they did at the beginning. You know does that love Kobe you know have an even bigger respect if they didn't know about that story. And those debt you know is only driving to bandwagon has a better understanding of how. These players might set were. Exactly. Since Stan I mean it. It actually moved back and forth so. It moved forward somewhere after the Olympics to. Jordan ones our. We start talking about the shoe deals. Showed him actually at the end of his career? Ended a career beating the knicks with this. Join Winds. We feet. Yeah, we switch I mean there were there were essentially prototype ones. It makes sense. And the one thing that I wanted to talk to you about I was Jordan versus Drexler. Witch onsite. I mean I know I. Was One of my favorite player. Yes, I don't think that's that takes away from anything but Michael Jordan actually dominated the trailblazers absolutely down hands down. This was another example. Folks when the media should learn to shut. Up. And don't tug on the Cape. Right and I on our kind of wish that you know, Jerry Krause at that point when it also sang thing, but you know what West take a quick break. And we'll take a quick break. And we're back. Thank you so much for tuna back in with us here. We're still talking about episode four and five. We're getting wrapped up with five year, but we've been talking Kobe we've been talking about the Olympic team but I wanted to talk about Jerry. Krause, 'cause we get you appointing episode where he's talking after the win. About the team and you organization. And he sang things like you know. Players don't win championship. Organizations do. That's ego and I'm like. Bro Age. I understand what you're saying like. I get it. Trust me I do but all of your states. Everything that you say. Has Come at the wrong time. And it's like. I would have never been able to play this man it like. Ticketless. There's people who is trying to back him like yet understand. Yeah I'm sure. I mean because he was sounding real. All of these matters to me. ooh, we say. I've said it already. and Ain't taking it out, but he was found in a real real. All lives matter right there, because like I'm sitting there and I'm like listen. Now all players. Elevate to a level of rain is the same. You're not going to. Get. bj Sean bj. He's first person that came to mind Yup to play up to. You Know Rodman Pippen and Jordan level. He's GonNa play great yet. They talked about by John. Paxson hitting those shots. GonNa play great, but you know we don't expect them. To carry the team like those top three is, or even before even before robbing got there and it was. Jordan pinning grant. We don't expect those guys to carry them along. which is why after they left, the Bulls started to go downhill. Pretty. Big Time, so it's like I need him to understand like listen when you have these great players, you know I understand. Have you go and I might want to stroke anybody myself, but what we're talking about power here. You know you need to learn how to kind of give and take. I agree. Obviously, this is the past now so he can do about it, but he really ruined. The Bulls ruined the bills. In my opinion I had A. STRONG PARTNER And by strong I mean ninety percent of that. And Ninety percent is way too much i. mean the mix thing year we have is poor Tony coup coach. I'm so glad so before that real quickly. I also want to give BEC-. Shut us to Barbara Shod. Who readily extra s us by, and you saw that like you? You heard you heard me saying the same line that he would say. Jordan would say. So our shot axe. Jordan, you know. Game, on the line money time WHO's taking the last shot enjoyed it, said he. Comes up pushing this that and I immediately went. Doc knows that I would say well. You China play. Yes. Trying to play. but yes Tony Kukoc coach. Who in the middle of his country, trying to get their independence in a bloody civil war? You know and this goes straight back. We want you. We want everyone before we started reviewing this whole thing that we're going to get on the media. We've warned you so via. Don't WanNa hear us? That not the media to skip ahead and the episode I apologize. Team Twenty minutes. But the media created a storm. And I don't mean Jack. Jack Poor Tony Coach. Had No clue. What's happening? With anything between what the media saying. And, what that pinsent Jerry Krause was doing. and He came into these. Olympic Games just wanted to show his skills with the desktop world. Absolutely and between the media rubbing. Jordan and Pippen. Wrong way which of course trickle down to the rest of Azeem. Joe Kraus saying things that he said? Primarily talking holding Pippen's. CONTRACT EXTENSION AT BAY. Until they can get Tony Kukoc coach in the draft. which yeah I totally agree Scottie! Pippen pissed off too I. He just came into a storm folks. Like I really like adult bathroom before, but like adult worse. Because, we joke about being locked up. You know put into penitentiary shafted Russo's. He got locked up in that first game. ECON. Four points almost completely locked up. Yeah Yeah. I mean the problem was is that it's like like. And I. Don't blame Scotty like I. Mean Michael didn't have to do anything. Scotty can listening whenever he's in game on. Now enjoyed, and this is going back to Jordan having his team back. Yeah Hey. Don't take my mascot position or going to earn it yard it. And you're going. Through the ringer. But in the first game. the second game. Tony earned the respect. He played much better much better I know if they went as hard as. First! The. First one was to prove a point that just to. Him, which I mean, it's more of you know punditry by association to the media and especially to Mr Krause. But of course the USA as you. Well know won the game and. The slight controversy with the whole Reebok Jersey Lasko, which also believe there's only a few articles that came out about that. which weird. Say That one more time. Few articles came out about that actually. Or Yeah I'm like only a few light today. That would have been a media firestorm, but it wasn't. Around that time. Way Jordan played it I thought it was genius. It was genius could who's going to question no one you know somebody who was a black. I mean no one. Genius APP killing you know and I love that. He played that and then they kind of played it up a little more away they associated is brand, awareness and his. You know his endorsements how hard he worked raise yes. And I don't blame him for that. Yeah. Was the phrase that we hear all the time you know you work so hard to get up to that point, but all it takes us one situation at all. Go Way. Ns what happened? To me, it could've went downhill with the whole Democratic nominee. Harvey Gantt Situation. Which I mentioned. When he when gave the money for? You know the. Matter or he just donated money just in general to. The African American communities, but you know back in nineteen ninety when there's a Democratic nominee in North Carolina, he chose not to endorse him, and he got a lot of flack for that. which I still feel like it was more like you're obligated. In I think that's what everybody was saying you you had. You had is mom wanted him to do things, but I understood what he was saying I mean. He said. You know Republicans Baciu to is a true statement. It is interesting. You know what it means I understood, but he said. It won't speak out, but he made a contribution on this. Nonetheless, I, don't think people. now talk too much about that. It's just of course nine. Michael Wood came out I. Think you would have voted for, but it's like why Michael Need come out for people to go out. Thank you. You know what I'm saying and that's the thing that people especially that they didn't care. Microsoft dizziness Mac was not doing this. You know and that's where being a public figure. Can you know reflect negatively? On Yourself. Yeah and this would be rough and it kind of caught me off guard because Nathan McCall last people to speak in your. He's one of my favorite of all time. you know former Washington Post writer. You're really really good books. You haven't read them yet. All his books for the most part are titled After Marvin Gaye Song. That's so funny. makes me WANNA Holler and The other one can forgive me they. Also mission at the endorsed debate amongst friends after that plugging stay. What made them a call I mean I! I don't know. He, yeah. Sports Radio! I mean hopefully three hundred Acre thought FM. Also any podcast platforms. All of them on IOS and android devices. Everything you can find if you can't find us by now. You're not really looking I. Mean W dot. Dot Com listen. At this point, you and not trying because I mean if you type in type in. Debate amongst friends, DOC, proud. I mean instagram facebook's. I mean every single platform out there. We're on it. I you, you're not looking. If, you can't nobody to come. Call me me a message. Musa Hey I can't find your show. She's just not possible. Unless, they don I mean. It's with actor. Eddie, who beneath a macaw spoke out on MJ He said. Muhammad. Ali would never be forgotten because he stand. Who stood out of course. For what he believe in you know willing to sacrifice it all for what he believed in, but he's a Michael will be forgotten because of not standing out as an activist, but I just felt like that's that was really a bear. That's an unfair statement because it's like you know you don't know where Michael's door. Yet you know what I mean and I guess that's kind of tough for. Being the media it's like, but I think about this is around the time that the Jordan's were rising, and it became such a hip hop, iconic sneaker as well to. All this other jazz and he's doing stuff with spike Lee and he's doing. A lot of things incorporated with Black America at the time. So it was a given. For those that were uninitiated that Jordan automatically side with. A black politician, running for office. But in his home, state will. But also. I think it's unfair is. State. Now, it's unfair to state that just because he's not endorsing the black candidate that he's automatically endorsing the white one. Yes. A whoever else was? Just talk about people but eight obviously. The head it's black and white, and there's no gray area in there. Yeah. Sign K. Michael Zone. You know. Hundred million sneakers. And he could lose. You know unless you're stir up fifteen twenty percent. Yup of people who buy shoes because he decides to give political. Yup, I mean if if that happened today. Mean Jordan's. The Nike wouldn't be the. Conglomerate that it is today like they would have died. Really would have. Back then. People got that. He was still bought the shoes. That's facts. They really did they did. A man Justin Timberlake even went on to say the same thing that they're doing right now. which is going out standing in a long live? It's like. Yeah people still to this day my shoes now. That's marketed at like. Two hundred three hundred dollars now. Before, it was one hundred dollars way more if you. Counted deflation back then. Like, people really don't understand like. Let's not get into that. 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Encore - Joan Halifax - Defining Moments In Our Lives  Where Fear And Courage Meet

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Encore - Joan Halifax - Defining Moments In Our Lives Where Fear And Courage Meet

"Welcome to untangle the podcast from us. The brain sensing had Bam it helps to meditate. Check it out at cheese. Dot Com and Meditation Studio. The five star App I'm Patricia Carpet. Today's guest is Rushie Joan Halifax a Buddhist teacher, Zen priests, medical anthropologist, author and In the field of end of life care, she's the founder of Upi Institute and then center in Santa Fe new. Mexico Russia Jones most recent book is called standing at the edge finding freedom where fear and courage meet. It was such an honor to interview. Joan, Halifax, knowing her meeting, her has been on my personal bucket list for as long as I can remember. She is cultivated so much wisdom in her life from years and years of study, work, social activism, humanitarian work and meditating in this amazing book. She talks about the courage to face things just as they are. The Edge states that of pitch demise, our strength of character, and that also open us up to our greatest potential, we all. All go over the edge times in our lives, but we can cultivate the capacity to as she says correct course to stop and take account of our internal life, and to awaken to the new insights and growth that come from these defining moments the most important thing we can do now to face the complexities of the world we live in. She says practice intentional kindness. We need to connect with one another more listen to one another more spend more time relationship with one another. Needless to say she has had an enormous impact in her lifetime and continues now. Here's the Amazing Rashi Joan Halifax. Thank you so much for being with us on untangled today. We are just thrilled to have you here. Thank you so much wonderful summer day here in Santa Fe. Oh, that's awesome I wanted to start by asking you the question. I love the book. I read it this weekend. Just devoured it and wanted to understand what inspired you to write this particular book I've had the good fortune to be working in the end of life. Life Care Field, and in various other fields, including working with people corporations, working in humanitarian efforts working as a volunteer, the penitentiary system, working with educators, and it just been for fifty years, and I've had the opportunity to hear people who want to serve others who are engaged in service to others whether in education or medicine or law or business hearing them speak about the kinds of challenges. They experience in their work service to others. And it has been an extraordinary experience for me because one thinks that being a good person opening one's life to a world of service whether you're a doctor, a nurse, a lawyer and educator, or even a parent that this is work that is continually easy, but it's not necessarily a so, and so I began to look at the consistent patterns in relation to states that are considered to be virtuous like altruism or empathy or integrity and respect and engagement and discovered that. That there are shadow sides to these important human capacities, and that the shadow sides are often a source of great suffering, not only to those who are serving, but to those who are being served so I wrote the book I wrote the book in part because I also saw that the lever or the means of transforming the shadow side of these virtuous states is compassion, and so the last section of the book. It's you know is about compassion, yeah, and you. You just mentioned the edge states, and you talked about being at the edge can either gives us great potential for growth, or for suffering, depending on how we face our situations, and you also mentioned that like our toughest challenges can be our most valuable source of wisdom. I'm so curious about what is the difference between people who fall apart when they're challenged in these situations and the people who do become wiser, and who are able to grow. How do you think about? About that I don't know what the common feature is. Because what I've seen is that this potential for transformation exists within all of us and I think that's really important for all of us to understand that we all have this capacity to actually shift out of these conditions, and to that caused us so much suffering, and in the process of shifting to actually become stronger as a result of this transformation process. In my experience, it can happen to any kind of person. But that shift also involves as I said before opening up the experience of fundamental compassion, and when I talk about compassion, I'm speaking about this capacity to actually attend to our own experience into the experience of others as well as to have the intention to actually transform suffering and various other qualities, which I described in relation to compassion, but it's like in our day profundis in our deepest most difficult moments. This is where and Rebecca Sola talks about this. There is hope in the darkness. I Look Patricia as someone who has. been through a lot in relation to my own work as a time of kind of it's an experience of building character if you will when we fall over the edge, find ourselves in great difficulties, and we managed to pull ourselves out of the difficulties, and as a result of that, we're actually strengthened, and we have more capacity. There's what is that like in that moment and I think at some point you call this the defining moment talk about in each of these edge states they have a virtuous side, and then there's the shadow side, but then there's this choice point that when you do, go kind of over that edge. What is the training? I love that you're saying that we all have the capacity for the transformation, and even for the awareness or being able to witness in that moment that we have potentially a choice. Is that training the training for compassion for ourselves, and for those that were working with, or is there menu of? Of chaining that, we need to embody in my experience and I think this also shows up in work and social psychology and endure science there. In fact are many different aspects that we can mobilize. One is the experience of insight in other words we begin to attend to our own subjectivity and realize that we're in kind of lockdown. Our intention is basically self, centered or ourselves. Senators is coming out of our need to protect our selves, because we don't feel that we have the capacity to actually present suffering in ourselves or others, so inside is a really important capacity. And how do we have incite one is by. Directing our attention to our subjectivity to our direct experience, and what does that mean that means that we actually stop you will. Begin to take account of our internal life, so that's just one set of capacities related to opening up our ability to look deeply into our experience, and also to be able to look more deeply into the experience of others. Often, we're looking for the one defining moment. I think it's actually not just one defining moment. There's a kind of suite of capacities or suite of events that allow us to actually wake up and this is kind of awakening. Awakening and the powerful thing for me about this word is that I know of no almost no spiritual teacher whether it's Jesus. Christ store the Buddha or any of the great teachers who are live with us today, who haven't been through this experience of falling over the edge, experiencing profound set as or futility or experiencing to great night densification with the others, so they go through the experience of empathic distress, and then they begin to correct course and. And I think this correcting course. It's an event where when it happens, we begin to actually have that ability to stand at the high edge of our humanity, and see the whole landscape of our human experience, both the profound virtue for example of Altruism or the profound virtue of empathy, but also the shadow side of altruism, which is pathological altruism, where this shadow side of empathy which is empathic distress right I love that you're saying it's hopeful that. that to understand that everyone goes over the edge, and that there is this opportunity to correct course, and I think it makes so much sense that you say that's a time for us to really take account of our internal life and to cultivate that capacity. Do you think correcting course is similar to learning how to be more resilient when it be images that is common in Buddhism in that I use it in the book is of the Lotus. Root Lotus are deep in the of suffering if you will, and the mud of suffering is actually feeding the Lotus and making it possible for the Lotus flower to blow another image, I'm sure I used in the book, but is commonly found in certain Buddhist literature is of the peacock who eats poisonous plants, and then out of choices plants, these beautiful feathers arise. Capacity to actually work with our difficulties, and to be able to digest them in a way that allows for the best of our nature to bloom. Yeah, that's beautiful and you said book something about what we do with our experience that really matters, and how we expand our boundaries by meeting, suffering head on, and I think that is maybe part of what you're. You're saying there as an anthropologist. You've studied so many in your lifetime. You've worked with Shamans. Zen. Masters in Tibetan Lamas in native American elders what are some of the things that you've seen that just crosses all religion, spirituality and philosophies. What have you learned that we all share in common about human nature and our ability to meet suffering and survive and thrive. Off Not sure I can answer you know I mean. Every person is unique I can't really speak from the point of view, perennial philosophy, all of suffering various ways. Even the Buddha as the Buddha was dying, Mara. That is expression of suffering in the food experience even more showed up, but what can I say? Is there a common thread? I don't know but I do know. Know again from my experience of working with so many good people in my book is filled with the voices, most remarkable people weather I never met him but Nicholas Winton who was big inspiration for me or Wesley Autrey another inspiration for me and I never met him, but prisoners and psychologists and Buddhist teachers and therapists and educators, all speaking from my pages, chaplains, doctors and nurses. and. The thing I've found that really holds all these voices together is their courage courage face things as they are including the deepest kinds of difficulties. What a great thing for us to be able to do that right and you also talk about crisis being so important for our personal growth and maturation. I love that you're saying this. To seek it, we don't have difficulties. Find us, but you knew in certain cultures like an Indian dingy. Just world. It's fascinating because this is woven into the fabric, of Culture in terms of rites of passage right and we've kind of lost that thread in our society, we have less context available to us, which is promising for us is hopeful for us in terms of the capacity to actually in the kind of realization that we can transform these difficulties into strength. What are some of the rites? Rites of passages that you think are most profound in the cultures that you've seen in terms of helping us move from one place to another I. Think all of them are profound. I think that, for example, medicalising birth where the secret aspect mystery of birth is taken away from the child, the mother, the father, the family system birth, itself is a right of passage. Pregnancy is anticipate Tori of the critical moment, the rite of passage when the child is born, adolescence is a right of passage. Where there's a maturation leap on the part of young people wear suddenly they realize oh I'm actually an adult, and that process of course in the indigenous world and all cultures was marked in a very significant way. Marriage is a right of passage where your identity expands to include the whole family system of clan of another, in addition to the intimacy of marriage, and all that it promises, and all the difficulties that marriage brings, and of course, sickness is a kind of rite of passage where we encounter the truth of our own mortality, but again medicalisation has made it difficult for us to actually understand that are encounter with physical illness has within it the potential for really waking up. And so forth so divorce, the movement from one place to another there many forms of rites of passage, and if we begin to understand, the power in these phase shifts that they introduced us to the truth of change, the truth permanence to the experience of uncertainty to letting go of an old identity. All these are important lessons for us, but if they're happening in a social context without recognition of the power of these moments, these face shifts in our lives like the loss of a loved one can do. For the rest of our life. So for me, we are often not in the social position to recognize the great potential in these phase shifts so when somebody is describing to me for example their experience of total burnout. This is a kind of invitation to stop to rest. To cease doing and to go inward and the heat, and to evaluate our priorities, what is really important in our life when we look at the truth of our mortality, and are we in a situation which allows us to find meaning and purpose in our lives, for example, so burn out for me is a kind of rite of passage. Yeah, in the book used Shonda Rhimes as an example I love that because you. You talked about when you do the thing that you love, and you know that you love it, but you're still burned-out. And she said it turns to dust, and you don't feel that in your ear anymore. What you do in that situation and I. Mean I love everything that you're saying because I? Think we're not often given the tools in our society to handle these rites of passages or these defining moments and. And I think people either ride the bliss, or they get crushed by the challenges of them, and so it does feel like we need tools for these moments that we ride in our lives but I. WanNa go back to the burn out that you were mentioning. Because what do you do in that kind of a situation? And what have you done because you've been in such incredibly incredibly difficult situations in prisons in. In Nepal in all kinds of crises situations. How do you handle that I feel very fortunate Patricia because I've had a meditation practice for fifty years. It has given me a set of internal tools that allow me to actually navigate through difficulties with a little more nimble than for example when I was considerably younger so when I talk about being able to actually recognize what's going on in my experience to realize oops. I'm very appreciated or I'm over identified with the suffering person before me. I can begin to a downright you like take a breath get grounded. Remember why I'm really in that interaction, which is just not to harm and to really open myself up to a shift, which comes from being grounded and remembering why I'm really there, so he really the most powerful tool that I have accessible to me, personally is meditation practice. Not Everybody wants to hear that because it means that you have stop and director attention into your subjectivity and cultivate mental qualities which allow you to be more resilient, and it takes time, and it's a process. Also is not always you know every day I. do it, and it's not easy every day, but I realized that my life has really shifted so profoundly from on the being extremely sensitive and over. To a life that was more grounded more inclusive, less fearful, more courageous, more curious where you uh, sensitive child. I know that you had a trauma Oh. When you were four years old, you had a condition caused you to become blind for two years. Did that have a huge impact on your life? I know that such a big trauma, but we always very sensitive. Child is hard to say because that was a long time ago, but I think I probably was. In fact, I think probably most kids are but I also think I was fortunate because I was brought up in a circumstance where I didn't have to develop huge defenses in order to survive, and many people are not so blessed is that their families aren't as healthy their ego development is more fraud and their trust is more challenged because they're not in such a situation I do feel that I could afford if you will. The sensitivity that I had now I still have it. Present in my life, but I also have a lot more insight. Well, you've had many many years of study and action, and you said that you originally came to Buddhism in the sixties, because of the core teachings that transform anguish and provide a path to freedom and wellbeing in this world, and is that what has been your like the i? Guess rallying cry for you over the years. This idea transforming anguish. And creating more well, being in the world I could. This really came again out of my childhood and Family System, and naturally unfolded for me in the nineteen sixties, because of the social conditions of that era, but I'm also I, feel that when I encountered Buddhism, it was so I encountered a view that allowed me to see things with greater depth of field, and I wanted just to cultivate the kind of in mind that allowed me to be socially engaged to address issues that related to structural violence personal violence into really my whole life has been dedicated to in. I haven't been perfect. But to addressing the cultivation of a world is fundamentally nonviolent. So it's a big assignment, a giant and it's a great mission I feel like nobody wants to promote suffering in this world, except for people who are really crazy, right? We all WANNA. Do Good, but I think there's also a lot of confusion out there in our landscape, part of it is. How do we wake up? How do we create the conditions where others can wake up I've done my own teeny little part in that I mean I've had such a profound experience in working with professional caregivers and family caregivers, and they said educators and humanitarian. So much from people who are directly involved in the field of caring for others various ways. Their voices, their experiences really live inside of. But it's not just my life. It's really about from my point of view. It's not about me. It's about everything I've learned from those who give care, but also from dying people from prisoners from effigies. Ordinary people I've met who are struggling deeply with difficult conditions in which we find stuff, but they themselves have been my greatest teachers. So beautiful, I get chills just listening to talk about it because it's just such incredibly important work and I wanted to ask you. There's been so much suffering in there is always so much suffering, and we live in such a complex world now the news has been really focused on suicide, increasing rates of suicide since early two thousand, and we see some high profile people that looked really happy on the outside, taking their own lives. And what are your thoughts on that? And how do we help? People become more honest about their feelings so that we can help them. I don't know if that's the right question, but maybe you understood. I don't know if I understand or not, but in a way I look on suicide is a case of mistaken identity. Wants to die is. The, Ego. Our lives in a way is misplaced concreteness and my other feeling about people who take their lives as they have lost relational connection that when people lose the sense of connection when people feel, they have everything for example in terms of the to blue, recently took their own lives very well-known known people looks like they have everything, but actually they don't everything in the material. World doesn't mean that we are psycho. Spiritually fulfilled right, and it's that kind of usually that kind of desolation that each to futility and the and. There's no connection and why live right? Painful it's too painful in your chapter on engage men, you talk about our culture of business, and that this has such a huge impact on US personally end in relationship to others, and maybe there's some connection there to work moving so fast. How did you think about that? In terms of what your writings on that edge state in particular this idea of engagement I think it's important being caged, but I think it's equally important. Engaged with each other at the psychosocial level connection is so essential, and what is happening is that our identity is moving away from an identity where a human? Human being to an identity of voyeur where a human doing, and so you say, how are you really busy? As though this is a virtue with his our culture, but actually what we learned in practice is that it's about stopping. It's about cessation. It's about being not doing and not accomplishing in the external world, but being able to find rest in the present moment. That's really hard in a consumerist Dick Materialistic culture and make that value and yet, but we see. Is that without it being a value we suffer, and that's suffering can lead to us, not valuing our own lives and. Taking them and we don't really have the lay or many people don't really have the language to talk about that and they go blindly through the dialogue of I'm busy I'm running from this place to the next. These teachings yearbooks. They're so important. The other thing you say that compassion is the most powerful means you know. Keeping our feet firmly planted on the earth at our hearts wide open. He loved that what how he had so beautiful. I mean so much of your book beautiful, but can you talk about? About some of the practices that we can do in our audience can take home after they buy the book to really become more aware and really focused on insight and taking account of our internal lives in these things that you're teaching. What are some of your favorite I? Know you talk about meditation, but there so many meditation practices that you mentioned in the book and I'm just wondering if there are any that are the most powerful for you, you know. His holding missed the Dalai Lama's is. My religion is kindness. Actually practicing kindness, intentionally, speaking, kindly, behaving kindly, being respectful and kind to ourselves, I think the attentional practice of loving kindness is so important in a world in a world that is feeling less and less civil every day. Right have an opportunity to actually cultivate pro-social states of heart and mind that 'cause our own social world become more civil. I WanNa live in civil society and a civil society is characterized by altruism. Characterized by empathy, characterized by integrity by respect and by engagement and practicing these qualities intentionally which we can every time we do negative self talk. That's disrespecting who we really are. Every time we speak unkindly about others. That's not a healthy thing to do. That's falling into the toxic swamp of disrespect, and it's learning how to be conscientious, aware of how we cultivate de powerful human virtues. That's really the heart of the buck, these five states, these five birches, these qualities that we can practice and to turn around you talk about incivility, being on the rise and maybe this book. Book can become a bit of movement because it's just such important work and I feel like you Patricia. Really. There's just so much for us all to learn from this book, and is there anything else that that you WANNA share from the book that there's so many beautiful things you talk about not letting our fear. Keep out the moonlight, not being attached to outcomes, there are so many gifts and quotes end just great lessons in the book. Is there anything that you'd like to share that? We haven't touched upon yet. are feel kind of shy. It's a big book. Deep Book I think it's a book. That is also very timely. It's a book that anyone I believe can benefit from because we live in a world terry vulnerable, but we also live in a world where there's great promise I'm hoping that this book can be Ah Gift That helps people to recognize that although we face great challenges, we also have great potential assess. You have a quote from James Baldwin that says not everything that is space can be changed, but nothing will change if it's not based exactly so good I'm so grateful you read the book so. It's such a wonderful I love it and I. Think our audience is GonNa love it, too. So I am so grateful I could talk to you forever I'm just like all of you and the work that you've done and I'm just so grateful that you were able to make the time to be with us today to thank you Patricia. It's just been a delight on this Tuesday afternoon in Santa Fe New Mexico and again. I'm very grateful that you allowed yourself the time and space to bring this book into your whole life. Yes, thank you and I will continue to do that because it's a practice. Wonderful will keep practicing these things. Thank you again and keep writing the bucks. I will okay. Little by little little I. Want this book to settle. You know dislike my book being with dying and the one before that the fufill darkness. It's like ten years of incubation and. You want to sit with this one. I. Do I feel no rush to write another book at this point? This book is still being written inside of me. That's so beautiful well, thank you again. Thank you so much all right, thank you. Listeners and Patricia and have a beautiful risk. Your Day. Thanks so much rush Joan Halifax for being on untangle today. All of her books are available at all major booksellers. If you have feedback or suggestions for guests emailed me at Patricia at Meditation Studio, App Dot Com, and if you have a minute, will you subscribe to our podcast and give us a rating I hope you'll download meditation studio in the APP store. 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The Great Disciples of the Buddha - Talk 1 -  The Next Buddha Is The Sangha - Jaune Evans - August 26, 2020

Everyday Zen Podcast

49:29 min | 5 months ago

The Great Disciples of the Buddha - Talk 1 - The Next Buddha Is The Sangha - Jaune Evans - August 26, 2020

"So it's great to see. Everyone. Thank you for being here. And I wanted to. Start by dedicating. This talk with gratitude. To, our. Than ancestors. All of our. All of our ancestors. including. Indigenous. As lands the closely walk in the Alani people. And to. Remember their prayers. For All of our relations. And for their spiritual lives that? Center on the returning all the gifts. In given. Names. Have I heard. I'm Lotta Sutra. These words open track, and they are the words spoken always. The. Buddha's words remembered by on. Jan We share the first image of the Buddha? Miss Disciple sunscreen now. Little Bit, plaza. Like to invite everybody that close your eyes for just a moment. And imagine with me from Hugh minutes. Imagine you're in a dream. Standing on a CRAG outcropping. Silvery RAFF HIMALAYAS Standing under cobalt blue sky. Gazing out atop the world. Waiting for this Buddha to appear and give his lecture right here. Unholy Eagle Vulture peak. Is The wind picks up your heart clippings in the Golden Noonday Sun intensifies such brightness you have to close your eyes from. Menu Open them squinting. Shielding them with your hands. Your mouth drops open. In Awe. Rainbows criss cross the sky. Eighty thousand row body SACRI- looked down. Down from the clouds and rise up from the earth. And then the world honored one appears not I the grape vehicle search all these. To all of us. Throughout, speaks and time. Where closely encircled by large rupe upgrade disciples. Dressed in their patchwork. Robes. Barefoot carrying their arms bowls. They're smiling at us. We feel their kindness. Lightness of there being and at the same time. Gravity. Their. presence. There quiet in. Look. There's my Chai. Shopper Your Putra. Ghana. Booty. A Nanda Hula. Dr. Along with twelve thousand others. All exam our hearts one body mind. Freed from sense appetites. Ones who abide in unruffled piece. I mean achieved the way. Emancipated from all bonds assistance. Freed from the duality births and deaths. And then. As they look deep into your ons. They bow to. Every one of us. Graceful. Humble Offering us their balls. FIT build gets wasted. In compassion. Our hearts well. We'd feel huge Rabi Jewelry. And then suddenly you wake up from the dream. You can open your eyes. And you are right here. In your living room for your home's end. Now, realizing we all of us obvious are cartons huge. Assembly. All of a sudden soon platform. Able to imagine ourselves practicing. I'm vulture trapeze. Gazing into the light. Hearing the words of the World Honored One Being offered Dharma gifts by these noble disciples. Are. Ancient ones. Our. Ancestors. We'll have by sharing their life practices. Disciples are human my practice since two cycles. Given. US The nourishment. Generosity from their arms bulls. You're collected. Nation. Taking refuge in Buddha. Dharma inside. Thus have I heard. A dog in. Hudson Conman. Buddha's ancestors of old. Whereas way. Way In the future she'll be Buddhists and ancestors. Revering. Ancestors we are one Buddha and one ancestor. WAKENED being body mind. We are one remind. Because they extend their compassion to US freely. Without limit. We aren't you to attain. Good. And that go. Those who in past lives were not in light will now be enlightened. newsline. Save the body, which is the first of many times. Before but as enlightened. They were the same as we. Mightn't people today. Are exactly and snows. You. Can Stop showing screen engine. That's how I heard. The story of the first disciple Hukou shop. Beautiful and well known. In the Budo has falter peak giving a talk. He held up of flower before the assembly. At. This everyone remains signed. Only, Mahat caution top got shopper broke into a smile. In. Good. A smile to. Then said. I have the treasure we I of truth. In affable mind of Nirvana. I now entrusted to Mohawk mission. Norman wrote in taking our places. This is the story of pure meeting. There's no instruction. program. You content. There are no words. Nothing could put your finger on. Other than A. Shared between two people. Were appreciating together. The profound beauty. The flag or it is. This month long steady great disciples of the. Buddha. Len, fortunately Only highlighted few. These many stories. He's pure moments. Like counters. Smile. Shared between people. It was originally scheduled before the pandemic ket. Enormous going to be traveling. Grew out of hearing him. Mentioned the book few times during the last two or three years during Wednesday night. Germany talks. And I bought it with good intentions, but it's a big dense book. Put It on the table next to my serious reading chair. Rescue pages. Put it down UH. Humor pages I'd put it down. You, know. But then I packed the book when a group of nine of us from days in reforming Kathy as teachers. Attended the Twenty Nineteen winner practice period Tessa Hartson around monster. All sixteen participants were identified as in? As monks. In the midst of adjusting to this life as a monk. Basing. Wall. Weathering the called. Middle of the night wake up. Bow. Imaginative the Canyon Moon and the stars. Wearing our robes. Eating former REO he. In. Enda. Breathing hot springs steady soutrance. Our imaginations pretty fired up. And as we became immersed in the monastery silence. The bowing the chanting. The afternoon tea and cookies in Endo the many hours of science in. Our ancestors, the disciples. Came Alive to announce. New. Each, it's. My began reading about them. In, the book. I, began to imagine. I'd also have been some sleep deprivation but. I felt like they were close. Almost, feel their presence. Almost. Almost see them sometimes I would see another monk coming towards me on the pass. An ancestor practicing ranked there with us. Human beings just like us. The months deep and Ancestors. Photographs on the altar of the Sun. In the library on the spines of route tax. The dish shack sterilizing cups and saucers mountains of Silverware. Present in the kitchen kitchen. Stirring Soup. Champion, onions. Making brand. The way were a small subset of the very large. End Sanga. Including the bay area Vancouver. Bellingham Calgary Mexican. Including many of you on the soon, call right now. You took this hall every day Songa of disciples supporting us. To get us through those three months. More than just packages with chocolate bars. Are Hats with headlamps. Are Super Duper sets of long underwear we really needed. It was the letters in the heart messages. Shared practice bullying us in the dark and challenging limits. Short. It was the lava son. especially. The Paid Sign Practice Care and compassion. Are interconnected relationships as a whole everyday San. Tacit Har. And offbeat throughout space and time and says strong Sanga. This is what fueled imagination. fant. Our live reach other. enthralled. That's have I heard. These words were offered by another disciple of the Buddha. Not Hun. We all need. That enough laugh we may not be able to survive as individuals and as plan. It is said that the next good will be named my trade. The Blue of love. And I believe that Mitra. Might not take the form of an individual. But as a community. Shyness. The way of love compassion. Next leader. Will be the song. That's really the statement didn't encourage me. To do these talks and to do this study. The next Buddha will be the song. If the next is the somewhere. Stick knock on says. It will take wholesome. Whole village. And diverse community. Diverse in every way to realize this my Mitra spooner of love. You, take us this a whole ecosystem practitioners. Speaking different languages? Living, in, cities. Where all? Residential Centers. Homes, Endo's. Retirement homes. All of. In all shapes sizes. Genders. Collars. CION. Some mid. Some won't. It will take our embodied consciousness. Some of US introverted some extroverted. From graceful clumsy some click. Some silent. Per Siri. Welcome each other. To the family. Obscene. So the realization take all of us. Bringing forward the next Buddha. All of US Huger, your boots ancestors on this site. And it's abundantly clear. Especially now in these times of pandemic. Climate collapse. Racial awareness of injustice. specially. Now we can see and feel the suffering of the world so much more clear in tensely in our everyday lives. Are, bow to save all beings is urgently needed urgently. Jamie Ition ext Mitch Place. Thus have. Traditional beginning of a Buddhist Sutra. The I is a non. Considered to be one of shock you moaning good as ten great disciples. Also his cousin and longtime twenty year attendant. Memorized all of his words. All have been smarts making it possible. To preserve and transmit the Buddhist teachings for future generations. This raise, a Nada is known as. The Dharma Treasurer of the Dharma. Word a non means bliss in Pali. Sanskrit. Tamil. was regarded as a great disciple because of his obvious tiring. Care Pris Master. His unshakable friendliness patients. His readiness to help others. For the many ways he served the song. Including US. Study the Buddhist teachings because of him. Because of his dedication. Prodigious memory. Stop sharing scrounging. One of the quotes from the chapter on him in the great disciples is anonymous. So capable as a teacher, the Dharma that the Buddha didn't hesitate to ask him to take his place he himself was not feeling. High compliment. For these reasons that chosen to focus on a Nanda. Some tonight and more next week. And also. You can probably get another big reasons because it was he malabo the Buddha three times toward women. Beginning with the with the good. Mother, my property. Also. Talk about more next week. What makes someone a great disciple Maybe. I wanted probe more deeply to look. At rule and what? is thought historically to me. AGREE DISCIPLE And then try to answer those questions. In a more contemporary way in the world. The word and the concept at many different meetings and expressions main different world religions. Nuns and priests. cloistered contemporaries forest hermits. Followers of Jesus. From the Bible. Hamas followers being called twice daily to prayer in mosques. And others who? Or commitment. By caught of behavior. Value System. Often online beliefs actions to find this moral and ethical. In, Biko bodies words in his introduction. He. Sets the qualities in livestream lines of these twenty four disciples in a historical context at Buddhism's antiquity. To be a disciple in those states. He says. He sets it in in it. I said it's the disciples pass. Within a vast cosmic backdrop of conditioned existences, multiple stages of awakening. All, aimed ultimately towards the final stage our hardship. Fully accomplished disciple. Known for their task to be achieved. Falling. Away. From the full understanding falling away from what has been achieved complete did not -ment of the noble. Pass. The full understanding of the true nature of existence. Disciples were those who could provide in unruffled piece. In the experiential realization, Marana? Mind stanks, insecure. Death are hunt disciple Ross's the doorway, the uncondition statement so. For that residue of conditioned existence the true sensation some. So. That seems. New Concept of high to reach in contemporary. And Yet We make those vows. which have often been said to us the buddies out because it is impossible to him. With. Anyway. Trust and faith in the past. Past. Kabbadi goes on to say that the Buddhist is that the contemplation of the noble disciples is an essential part of our meditative life. An aspect of the contemplation of the song. One of the six recollections frequently recommends followers. To contemplate the noble ones. Those who broke the bonds of egotism and reached the height superiority missed. Is a great encouragement. For those who still find themselves far deliverance. Are Their example is Exalted Persons Inspire. US with confidence. Pneumatic nation power of the term. Their lives demonstrate us that the spiritual ideals posited in teaching are not near fancy. It can be achieved by real human beings struggling against the same human infirmities that we find ourselves. We studied them. We see they will be set, but at the same hindrances in difficulties. Talk to Bernie is clear. By placing their trust in practice the path. They could surmount all imitations. All the things we take for granted about ourselves that we can't change. May Rise to a dimension true spiritual ability. The profiles in the Book Begin macsharry Poacher. Remarks of the Dharma. Off them to find in this historical period prior to the rise of the must be home. On them. Practice. With this are hunch. Being near. Project Sherry couture was known as the wisest. Disciple. And we know him from sedation we do heart. Sixty This disciple who is being taught the pressure permanent. The perfection of wisdom. Teaching? Talk by Avalon Buddy Sop. Compassion taught more than two thousand years ago. Change shows the image of According to be co body shied with your with spiritually precocious. Having become a stream enter. He'll counter that term repeatedly in this book. Defined as someone with unwavering confidence in the Buddha the German on. He became a stream enter upon hearing. These lines from a wandering ascetic. Of those things that arise from 'cause. It's a type two has told. The. Cons. And also what their cessation ends. This is the doctrine of the great reckless. Of those things that arise from 'cause the detector has told the cons. And also what they're sessions. This is the doctrine of the great reckless. Can Stop Sharing Pitcher. So upon hearing these first two lines. Iro's Shari Putra what is called the dust. Stainless vision of the term. The first glimpse of the death Louis. The Path upstream entering. To. What Try Here's of course, is from outlook get Kashmira when deeply practicing pressure pardon me to saw that all five aggregates empty in this relief suffering. Shy Putra warm does not different from empty miss. Kim's does not differ from four. Form itself is emptiness emptiness itself form sensations, perceptions or mentions consciousness. Like this. Chari. Putra all diamonds are marked by emptiness in neither arise or cease are neither to filed nor pure. Either increase His Book Gun the heart. Sutra Red Pine says Othello Othello Key Tash. Forest. Or Wisdom. Rather than knowledge. Wisdom of form not different from emptiness emptiness form. Provides travelers with all they need to reach the All Abu So, Sharia put received these teachings. All that is needed to reach the goal of Buddha Hood. In. The heart suture. He's entrusted in powered with this Russian. The Great Perfection Wisdom. So I'm reading about his life is quality of wisdom also compassion. Or so plentiful. Impossible to choose just. Few really. The wonderful chapter cleese if you have the buck, try to read it. Chose these two qualities. because. Both were great service to the Sun. Very, well known for helping others. Are being wise. And because also, he made wonderful friendships. Especially, his friendship Nanda. On Terada. In Monte on. And I WANNA talk next week more the friendship. Between he and and. Put himself culture put your wise and a help breakfasts fellow monks a help bring two ways. By giving material, help might may help. One. Of the examples of material. Happy gave. Made me laugh when I signed. Work Period Chasa Hara. Shari Poacher. Rather than go on. Rounds. Meaning going out with the begging ball. He would stay behind to sweep. Clean Up. Instead. So now wandering ascetics. Badly. Shoveled, monastery and also. Waiting. More. Fluid for others. He was well known for medicine. Medicine to the sick. Caring. For the novice monks sometimes even giving him his balls in his robes. Shared the Dharma it said. Israel gift. Stimulating self expression is companions in the natural way. Conveying to them his sensitive nature. Is Way of not being domineering, trying to impose his views on others. The Buddha had like to talk to Shirley preacher. Spiritual friendship. It's Have I heard? The. Disciples. Within. The Wide Circle of Buddha's followers, a critical distinction is drawn between two types of disciples. Ordinary disciples. In the great renewable samples. Differences that divide them do not pertain to outward foreign motive wife put the inward spiritual statute. Shari Putra is called one of the Buddhist to chief disciples. Because he and Mahama Yana share the responsibility for supervising the affairs of the song. Under. The immediate direction of Gouda. They were expected to take charge in the Masters Simpson's. Also. Charged them with special missions rising oppressing circumstances. Of these qualities in word spent spiritual stitching. Book One of the situations cited is when he dispatched them to win back the group of five hundred young monks who had been led astray by the Buddhist ambitious cousin David Doctor. And split the sign by offering separate teachings on vulture king. David doctor saw the two elders approach extended them warm Suing such forsake the Buddha. Enjoying his new faction. And treated them as if they were his object to cycle. Later, that evening. When David Donahue was resting These to chief disciples. Preached inspired to the monks to the attainment of stream entry. Convincing them to, return the blessed one. I'm wanting to confess to argue. As I've been reading and writing about the scraped and simples. I have sometimes spelt so odd. and. Moved I had to stop. Just, imagining must have been lying. To Practice Nebraska's Times. Where the wake David practiced. With A. Name lift your practice. And I have wondered. Really Worth. Every human. Just like us. Whole tapestry of talks more than just for short. Wednesday night Dharma talks could be woven together. With all of these beautiful lights, threats and character descriptions. All of this qualifying information about what it takes to be considered an disciple. Getting with an act of face in the Buddhist enlightenment. maxed reaching refuge three jewels. But as mentioned and spiritual gone. Darn the TICHY. In the Sun. The Community of noblewoman's. The corporate embodiment. Wisdom And? Spiritual purity. More of those threads include than how one takes action. Implements one's life. The guidelines of the Buddha made now hours. No able pass. It also takes into account the some saric backgrounds of these forms. The combination of a long slow process. Prior preparation. Over countless lives. Rich Accumulations of Merit. In wisdom. Unknown even to the disciples themselves. Knowledge about their past existence. For Some Astonishing speed suddenness. Of Enlightenment as a result of which. Some continued to practice. With their realization. What makes agreed to cycle? These words Norman? Openness and reciptivity. Inspiration. A loving heart. Stability. Persistence. Trust in the world and yourself. Takes a peaceful mind. Also. An active decisive courageous mine. Nine. How to limb? Choose in share this choice since others. Molly of the word disciple. Traces its origin to several source languages. Sanskrit. Word is dusty GATTY. Shows honor is vacations. In. Greek. The word. Dough keen. K. E. N.. Means to. Appear. To seem to send. Latin dissaray. Means to be fitting, or suitable. The salary to teach. Indebtedness, grace. In all English, it's derived from. Disco. pooer. One Who follows another the purpose of learning? Through some are any of these definitions that you're thinking. To we consider ourselves of disciples of the would. More, than many other schools of Buddhism Dan emphasizes the Guichard. Disciple relationship is a vehicle of understanding. The container that makes it. Possible, both artists. Zen Masters needed teachers in the ordinary sense. SC knowledge that can be explained imported imparted. Nor are they gurus possessing spiritual powers and virtues? From taking places. Instead. They're likes Zucchini Seasoned practitioners who will who are willing to meet other nations. H. One on her or his own terms. Magic of this meeting. which is needed the teachers nor the students doing. At, the point of contact between. Reduces the awakening suggested by the words of the Lotus Intrum. On the AIBA Buddha in understand. This warm hand to warm head meeting. Is said to have begun with Buddha and his first disciple. To have continued through the generations down to the present. It's called face to face transmission. In these next four weeks will meet an explore the lives of the Pew, well known disciples and also a few not so well known. Disciples. All chosen for their significant contribution to. Song, delay. We meet them warm hand to warm hand. Encountering them each other. Ourselves as human disciples. To consider how a and how we take refuge in the Buddha. Dharma Massanga. How we are disciples. Are you a great disciple. It's not difficult to recognize the obvious exemplary qualities of Shari are Nanda. The eight others on the list of ten grades. Ongoing. Yana. My Office CHIAPPA. So goody. TRAE ANY PUT DRA coach Indiana. On ARRUDA. polly Rahula. All served an inspired through the agents. Of them captured in these stories. Examples in expressions of their practices enlighten. Is Our ancestors? Maybe knowing a little more about their practice will inspire us in new ways. At this time especially. Now How important it is to practice. Make our whole lives. Thus. Have I heard. Wants the good. It is to cycle. Nanga asked him about friendship. A Nanda. Knew that having good any courage in France was very important for the past. Even wondered whether having good friends is half the path. Now and not. Having good friends is. Having good friends is the home. Holy Spiritual, French. warm-hearted. Relationships. Connection. With the heart of these talks. Is the importance appreciation Sanga. And having good friends. Choosing from the many disciples I'm focusing. Again, on the side. And the ones. Have known some the empty spirituel friendships. Those who made contributions to the wellbeing of the Sanga Attributions than felt in their lifetimes and in some cases through the ages right up to our practice today. Before put US Ren lightened. That were the same as we. Enlightened people today. Exactly. As those. We consider what to disciple and what makes it great disciple. Could. We also see this as an investigation into what it means for us to respond to those words. Meeting together. It profound beauty of the flower of this life. Good as treasurer. I of truth. Are we mature people. Willing to hear the call. No matter how faint unexpected it may be and respond. To the call of the wild geese. To the call, the family of things. I'll be. When something does appear Ready to respond all your attention. You're loving care. No excuses no avoidance. Fanfare. Roll up your sleeves and doing. In the weeks to come, we may have some of these. Moments with others. We. May Have some. Reading about the disciples. They may start to here to us. Your may be moments in intimacy. And sharing. Maybe even a breakout room. Klay CR trusts in the practice of the path. We find refuge. In these three treasures We surmount all limitations that we take for granted about our sums. We share the path and the treasures and spiritual friendship. Countless other beings? We can stunningly even be encouraged. By the ancestor disciples. The sense of dimension about. Their true spiritual mobility. And, our own. We can accept neurons, boats, all the gifts. The air us. Free. The practice. We can welcome the next Buddha. Retrial. Of Love. Maybe not in the form. Individual. We all need land. Without enough love we may not be able to survive. Is Individuals. As a planet. Mitra. Maybe. Not An individual. Maybe a community. Showing US THE WAY OF LIFE And compassion. Next. Buddha. Will Be. assigned. One more picture. Thank you from the new talk. The bears, the bears, the law has. Central. Community. Thank you. Thank you very much. And now want to ask you if you would. Meant. To break out groups of threes see their. Fifty people. So whoever is getting off? Yes, place to. Stay up you can. Okay. So chain, it looks like thirty seven. That thirty six. Groups of three. And we're going to ask you. To share with each other. What is your personal experience? With great. Disciples. What are their qualities? How does it feel in your body? To experience them and be. So, we'll put that in the breakout room chat box. What. Your personal experience, the great disciples. What are their qualities? Of in your body to experience now. Eighteen must spend about. Spend about twenty three minutes or so together. Each person being able to share. Come and then share whatever. The questions don't resonate. Something else might. To.

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Matthew Santoro: Confronting Your Ego & Handling Overnight Success

The Playbook

26:47 min | 1 year ago

Matthew Santoro: Confronting Your Ego & Handling Overnight Success

"The day Meltzer on this week's episode of the playbook, I met this guy on an airplane. And I don't believe in coincidences. But I had no clue who he was. But when I got to interview, Matthew Santoro on the playbook and understand his mindset his eagle attitude as well as he understands the value of his following, which by the way is about six million subscribers on YouTube, which I had no idea after sitting down with Matthew and understanding his perspective his ego and his value that he brings I now know why the universe brought him into my life for this episode of the playbook. This is entrepreneurs the playbook each week, I bring you some of the cleanest athletes celebrities and entrepreneurs to talk about their personal and professional playbook to success in what made them champions on the field. And in the boardroom. I'm your host and CEO of sports one marketing gave. Meltzer. I have a the world is too small guests because I can't believe we're sitting here about Santorum. Welcome to the playbook. Of course. Matt you and I met in this weird way. Which is now a common way for me is that I'm sitting on an airplane with Andre Reid hall of fame wide receiver who everyone on the plane knows right? He's the hall of Famer four Super Bowls. And I'm sitting there with him. And my media guy looks at me goes all my date. That's Matt San Antonio. Right. And I'm like, yeah. Right. The same way. Now just a year later because I had no following back. Then be all God. That's Dave Meltzer in. Meanwhile, Warren Moon, my business partner sitting right next to me and people will come up to me, and he's kind of like shying away. Like they're going to say hi to him. And they're like, oh, man. I see you every day. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Talk about that transition of how we go from just being. Normal idiots into people literally loving us like hall of fame receivers and quarterbacks. Well, it can be a difficult transition, especially if it's overnight and when I say overnight for me it took four years to be an overnight signals. And that's what I still short though. Congratulations. Yeah. I mean, that's what I say to people all the time. It can take four ten years to be an overnight success because people don't see all the hours in the basement and all the hours alone being an entrepreneur being an entrepreneur is a glamorous thing nowadays. But the truth is it's not it's actually a lot of hard work a lot of sadness a lot of isolation rejection. Failure failure failure? So people only see this. They only see the airplanes in the literally by the way, like jets. You know in front of a jet. Wheels. Jets smarter, right? Everyone owns a big ass jet, which so not the case at all. And by the way, if you're an entrepreneur, unless you're like, a Mark Zuckerberg sort of level if you're an entrepreneur, you shouldn't be out there buying jets and stuff like that like live humble. And I shouldn't say shouldn't because you should enjoy your money. If you enjoy the money, you know, enjoy it spend, it, however you want, but I feel like a real hustler is willing to live humbly and put that money back into the business and back into the business and continued growing or as opposed to being flashy and having this crazy lifestyle, and I've done both micro quite so I have to and especially if you don't come from money like us a one hundred percent is kids. Yeah. Hundred percent only child right six which is worst less money. So no children here. But, but yeah, I mean, I came from a small town only child never I was never really broke. But I didn't have any money. I always had a little bit of saving. Yeah. Just enough from like frying chicken at a grocery store, you know, like basic stuff did stuff. Yeah. But then when I started making good money, and they started making six figures. It's like, whoa. This is real money. Now, you know. And I so there was one year. I think it was I think twenty fifteen was the year that I really spent a lot in just because I wasn't used to it. But it took a long time to get to the point where it was kind of like this. If you look at a graph there's a peak and then a drop back off. So I went to not spending much to spending a lot. And now I'm back to I don't like to spend unless it's something. I'm really passionate about like shoes. For example. I'm sneaker head. I can't help it. I just love shoes. I like collecting shoes something I discovered out here in Los Angeles. But I don't waste my money. I was a millionaire nine months out of law school, and then very thrifty. Like, I wore the same because I thought they were lucky socks for three years. I'd four suits that were here me downs. Never bought for three years. I was. Making millions living. And then I went on that peak. What stopped me was losing everything that wouldn't that one? So I go from for Ariz Porsches and things like that Rancho Santa Fe homes to I drove my volt. And I still do to remind me whatever I can do to remind me that everything's coming through me for others. Not for me, radical humility because I love to make money. I'm a huge like, I don't know what it is about me. I love to make it. But now it's for everyone else because I've already gone through the Gammon. In fact, I tell people all the time with the jets and I joke around I I to run tail numbers. Right. And I take pictures like that said back guys jet. That's they take pictures like that just not even in Orange County the ballot challenge. Remember, the bow. Right. Well, you mentioned something earlier that really piqued my interest. And I love to talk about it by love to get other people's perspect-. Sure know, how do you deal with? No. What's your philosophy of dealing with the knows because everyone gets them? Yeah. Especially if you're not ignored. Yeah. That's a really that's a good question. How I deal with knows is. I deal with knows the same way that I deal with any perceived bad things, and I say perceived as everything's perception. Yes. Absolutely nothing is either good nor bad only thinking makes us oh Shakespeare said that and I think it's it's very true. I mean, anything that happens in your life can be absolutely perceived as a positive thing. And even what you consider negative things. Like, for example, say a family member dying. Well, that is objective of, you know, most people say, that's objectively like a sad thing. However, there's always something to be learned from that. And there's always a positive from it, for example, that may be the catalyst that brings your family together. So your family's in very close. You know, what I'm saying me losing money was the best thing that ever happened to me. Right. And I really mean that. Yeah. I can give you my example. So in I wanna here's as well. But for me, I had my peak viewership around twenty fourteen two thousand fifteen. I was getting forty million views a month, and it all came at once. And it was just right. But with that because I was not prepared for it. And I didn't have the my state. I have now which is I've been meditating for a year. I'm very much into mindfulness and spirituality by didn't have that at the time. And so my ego took over it was just this when my popularity rose and my money rose. So did my ego and all these bad people came into my life. And I was very loss person. Quite literally, I didn't know who I was anymore. And when that started to cool off it caused me tremendous Zayed's because I thought oh my God. I am completely identified with the numbers the numbers, equal value. Therefore, my values dropping and now I'm being depressed, and it's freaking me out. But over time, I realized that that was the best thing that ever happened to me because it forced me to re to seek out things like meditation and things which made me realize that my value as a human being is not tied to the numbers. So. Then that opened up my world to a whole bunch of other things. So had that not happened. Who knows right? Be today. Maybe I would be someone that my ego would just continuously take over. And and that leads to a whole gamut of other issues is interesting because meditation was one of the most significant things when I went through, and I call my quantum shift. And that's what I would call what you went through. It's a quantum shift. What I meditate everyday I fade meditate of studied in India night, mindfulness is the key to my success in happiness in nice. The pursuit of my potential is done through the state of calmness and potential. What motivated you, you know, through because people go the different I would say, but I didn't lose everything I would probably be dead, right? Because I was with the wrong people the wrong idea with an ungodly amount of money doing, and I'm just blessed to have the mom in the wife, and the best friend that I had that all within a week, basically said, you're a lost soul. And you know, my dad telling me who. I didn't get along with too much literally telling me that I was going to be the richest man in the cemetery, and that's really not where I should be. But all those things came to me. And I learned my wife was virtual what pushed you of all things into meditation. I don't like using the term rock bottom because I really don't feel like I truly have. I would say my story share blow your podcast and tell you the make you cry. Let's do it. But I hit a really really low point. Whereas waking up daily with anxiety depressed. I felt completely out of control with my mind, and my thoughts, and it was just it was a real struggle every day. And it just got to the point where I said, I can't do this anymore. You know? And that's the thing. That's that's the catalyst with everything with human beings. You know, it we really don't make a change until it gets to a really bad point. And then we say okay now, I have to make a change. Right. So for me, I got to that point. And I remember it was my thirty second birthday. I believe and I spent the day crying in my bed. Yeah. It was heartbreaking. And that was the day where I realized like I can't do this anymore. Like, this is not in the interesting thing was I really had everything going for me. I couldn't see it at the time, you know, and I just decided not gonna do this anymore. And there was three things that really changed me was. Medication meditation? And what's the third thing? We'll medication meditation. Oh in therapy. And I always tell people if those three times. Yeah, they meditation Meltzer fare ready through the book, and that's my. Therapy and therapy. And so the way that I explained people to people is I noticed in this country in America drugs are very much a part of the culture here. I come from candidate. It's very different there. And I would argue other places of when the world Israel where medications more of a last resort here. I find I resort. And it's I remember being a kid growing up seeing like why are there so many drug commercials in America? Like, we don't have those in Canada. But here it's like take this may cost side effect. You might poop your lung out like anything anything can happen. Right. So why would you take that? But you know for me. So when I came here moving LA ended up being the best thing that ever happened me because I ended up trying some medication and that got me out of the hole, and that's the way explain its people is it's medications really not for most people a long term solution. There has to be more to it. There has to be something that now pushes you beyond the initial getting out of the whole. So I was in a dark hole medication kind of gotten out of that. And then from there, I thought okay now, I'm on stable footing. Again, now therapy and meditation is gonna take me farther, and that's what it did meditation to this day is something that continuously is something that builds my mindfulness and consciousness on a daily basis, and I love that I teach mindfulness consciousness and talking about the subconscious and unconscious, I studied the ego. And I could tell by previous comments that you've made even in this interview that you are starting to get a real grasp on ego. How do you define number one your ego and to what practice do you have to be aware of because we all just ask me in the interview just before this? Well, you said that you know, you're afraid of things. Yeah. I can't believe someone that's always teaching and writing books and doing all this. Still afraid. I'm like, yeah. But I just go back to the Senate quickly. How do you number one define ego in two when you're aware when you're in an eagle place. Well, they're kind of one on the same. So the way that I define the ego is compulsive thinking, you know, as human beings, we have one of the greatest gifts, we have is the ability to think, it's the way that we've built everything on this earth that has advanced as a human, you know. Species. But the problem with thinking is that it's become a compulsion for human beings. So it's an important tool. But the problem is we don't know how to put that tool down. And this is the cause of all anxiety depression. It's just this incessant chatter chatter chatter chatter. That's why people can't sleep at night. How many people have you ever heard the c I can't sleep in my mind, just racist racist? That's the ego taking over at night. And so that's that's the way that I define the ego. But it's interesting that you ask that question because just yesterday I had a major breakthrough. Maybe it was serendipitous that we're doing this now always, but I went into a sensory deprivation tank. Have you ever been in? Oh, yeah. Okay. So what happened with me now before I tell you. I've heard many things about sensory deprivation tank of her that you can hallucinate I've heard some people they who knows there's lots of these lose their minds sometimes for me, I laid down, and I felt I was prepared because I have been meditating for a long time. Lay down, and I had a CD stick before it went in which is for those that don't know in marijuana this teach in their CBD, the psychoactive CBD just kind of gives you very laser like, focus and entrepreneurship is one of the fastest growing space. Right. It's legal everywhere. Great healing properties. The stigmas really going away from all that TC's. Not for me, by the way. I mean, really freaking lazy and hung and I get anxious because I'm the type of person needs to be doing stuff. Yeah. I don't like being lazy, and I just lay in bed sativa and. I can't do it. So CDs have beautiful thing though in small quantities. So take that fifteen minutes into laying in this pool for those that don't know a sensory deprivation tank is a shallow amount of water. Very very buoyant water that's filled with Epsom salts. So you can lay in it. And you don't sink into the water you actually kind of lay on the surface of it. It's an incredible like the Dead Sea. Exactly, very salty door closes lights, go off music place for five minutes, and then fades, and then you're just silence in darkness, and it's really interesting because the minds chattering. But then after about fifteen minutes, I I don't know if it's because the CBD kicked in, but it I just got this laser like focus where I was just very present. And that was focusing on my breath and then half an hour into it. This is this is amazing half an hour into it. I confronted my ego for the first time really confronted. I saw my ego, and it manifested it so. Nassau your ego people because I do this by south, right? I do transcendental. I see things tell explain what you mean by Salma eagle because people are probably thinking there's a little, you know, Matt. I mean. The ego. I mean, what do you want like because people like what I say meditation because so many people want to meditate, and they're like, well, what do you see what I'm like? It's just an awareness. So it's hoping you could describe the awareness of your ego on what that meant you in this. I saw my ego. Was it just an energy? Was it a color was your force it? So this is a little more advanced than the average listener I would say because you're not gonna Serey go. That's what I want. Just going to be a win you become aware Taraq. Okay. I saw my ego. Which was like insane. Explain what it looked like a little. Yeah. Let's go there though. So so, but through meditation what happens is most people are completely identified with their ego and through meditation, you'll actually become separated even just a little bit from your ego. Even just to get a little sliver of distance between urine ego. It can take years. So it takes a long time, especially for me just goodness out of your life. And that's what I call it e percents goodness out and for and just last, and I'm very passionate about this. That's why I keep talking. This is how many but for for meditation. I want people to understand it's not about shutting the thoughts off. It's about observing the thoughts. That's the difference in because everyone I've talked to was like, I tried it. But I couldn't shut the thoughts off. That's not what you're trying to do. The only people that can shut their thoughts off our zen masters that are on on a mountain top somewhere that are meditating for eight hours thirty years. Yeah. Exactly. Twenty years we live in the real world. We can't do that. We're running businesses. You're you're we can't it's not possible. So for us. It's about viewing them. But anyway, back to the ego. Yeah. So this beautiful thing happened. I'm there thirty minutes in I visualize this floating ghost light demon thing, it was very an evil presence. And I realized that's what I've been seeing for the last year since I've been aware of my ego. I've been angry at it. I thought it was this. It's this dysfunction of evolution. That's in our brains. I hate you. A hate you. And then something different happen. It's stepped aside, and there was a black curtain in the corner of the black curtain. There was a sliver of light like something was behind it. So I walked up to it. And I moved the black hurt and aside and all I saw was this all infinitely white bright room just white in the corner of the room. There was a little girl in all white kind of faceless. Glowing white, but she was gripping her knees. And she was scared, and she was crying, and that was my ego. And I realized that the eagle was not something to be feared an angry towards the ego is something that needs love and compassion. Because it's the scared lost little child inside all of us that needs that love and compassion. I've been angry at it. This whole time. I actually define my ego as fear of loss, of course. You just described here. That's exactly what it is. Right. And I and I walked up to this little girl, and I grabbed her hand. And I said I will guide you, and it's hard for me, not get emotional because I cry for an hour and a half after that I cried for an hour and a half because all this motion vomit game out. It was just it was it was a year. It was actually basically thirty three years of my life of not understanding what the eagle was then a year of understanding what the eagle was. But that cork still didn't pop. It was just kind of. I saw the cork for the first time. But yesterday that court came out, and it just I I cried for ten minutes in the actual defamation tank in the chamber, and when I came out it all came out in it. I wasn't upset. It was a joyful. Understanding of what this thing really was. And I felt like it was a new beginning for me. Because even today every day, it's a struggle with my ego. But the difference today was instead of getting angry. I kept saying to it. I will guide you I will guide. You is a beautiful beautiful moment. Wow. Yeah. It was. It was really powerful. Yeah. I think you don't believe everything that happens at the right time and the perfect place being on here the day after and side note, I also thought it was very interesting that it manifested as a little girl a girl specifically. I don't know. And I think of always I've always. Sort of gravitated towards feminine energy. All of my best friends are girls. I have more girlfriends than guys. I don't know. Why? That is. That's interesting. Yeah. It's funny because I will always Anna girl and until I became vulnerable. And then all of a sudden the for the first time in my life people like we you have this great mix of feminine and masculine energy where I was in resistance because of my ego of any feminine energy. And I was I was abused as a child as well you sexually abused, which probably created even more resistance. So it's really really interesting. I've never heard someone actually define it that way is awesome last question because we'd have to do this. Go on forever. A three hour five. I love talking about this. Because I I mean, I'm an educator. That's why on YouTube, right? I'd give facts and things like that. But it goes so much deeper than that is human being I realized that I just love facts. And I love when I really understand and believe something I just need to tell people that. And you do it really. Well, thank you know, even with the best fight, you know, the top five that watching everything, and, you know, at least in time that we've met JFK till now, and I've modeled some of my stuff because you're real, you know, what I mean, there's an authentic city to what you do. And I always say, I think is working for me because I just found my frequency, and I want to listen and watch you I'm like this dude has these frequency, right? Which is why I wanted, you know, even have you on my podcast, then go on your because I think like we have this frequency this level, vibration. What? Have you found now through this? I called a quantum shift that you've obviously gone through. What's your new purpose where because you're still really young? Do you have like a good frequent c- of purpose? Or is it varied? What purpose? Do you think you have now on on this journey? I think I don't have a new purpose? I think I found my purpose. That's always been inside of me. Which is the purpose. Do I guess you could say that. I don't I don't look at it as any sort of, you know, messiah sort of I'm here to teach people it's more. So whenever I can enlighten people. As to what the ego is even if they just have a glimpse of understanding of it. And really it takes a long time to really understand what the ego is you can hear it. But until you really meditate and understand what this thing is it can take a long time. I just really love explaining to people like listen, I know you really upset right now. I don't take that personally. This is your ego talking. But one thing I love is that whenever I talk to people about what we're talking about right now. Unlike any other thing, you can talk about their something that resonates deeply inside if people where they just focus on my words, and I can tell they might not understand what I'm saying with there's a deep deep part of them that that identifies the truth behind the words that I'm saying in the beliefs that we have in the fact that there is an ego. And so that's that's my favorite thing. And I think I don't know if that's my purpose. But I do I if there was a purpose. It would definitely be to help alleviate suffering from other humans. Will you definitely I think you'll really liberate others with your light to let them show their own light. And you do that through an emotional connection. Even though you take highly complex issues sometimes and I agree. Some people may not be able to absorb all the content because of their own awareness their own vibration. But for sure if you can connect on the emotional level and have. That affect of liberating others. Like, you do is phenomenal. That's truly what I think you do really well and made me a great fan and prefre really appreciate it. I'm looking forward to developing with deeper relationship and hundred percent airing some of these experiences, we'll get you on the podcast and the new year. Going off for mental they found those overworking myself. And I know when. This is important rest is important. You come back stronger. The question I had is what what's the significant of those for you. Because I have the shockers, but this one is very special mastering, Dr Shaw, who is a mind body soul healer showing the people. I don't know if these were blessed each mind body soul here, these are actually just more come bees that client gave me. Yeah. But these are very special. I believe that you carry karma from many past lives. Yeah. And so I actually trace calligraphy just end on this. Because I think it's important. I I do all kinds of free things Matt, and I are discussing things that people like, oh, jeez. These two guys way out there. Here's what I tell you. It's a little SO teric. Yeah. I love this. This is how evaluate things. Does this have any risk? No does that have a risk. No going into the chamber has no risk. But if it works for you keep doing it, and when it stops working. So that's why trace calligraphy that's why I read the course in miracles which I suggest for you as well. You had a right to you. You can go to ACM dot org online. There's lessons every day. Okay soup when when you talk with money, I remember talking to Gary v and I had the same kind of tacos, I'll talk to you next year. When you think that your lightened the unraveling? That's what I think I've four years I've been studying the course in miracles in every year, I really like was this year. Like, I'm a whole new unraveled being. And I can see you elevating that you're going to say got this was my perception of the ego. I've talked to Dave last year now. Dave listen to this. Right. There's a home. There's so many layers to it. Anyway, this is unbelievable. Matt santo? It is destiny that we met on airplanes and his brother absolutely for sure. And I look forward to many great things from you and pray for happiness and peace in two thousand nine thousand nine for you coming your way. Thank you track. All you wish not mistake. This is the Buddhist version of entrepreneurs the playbook. I hope you enjoyed this week's episode of the playbook as much as me on a person known. I just wanted to take everyone for making such success. Don't forget to continue it by sharing subscribing and listening to your favorite episodes his day meltzer's. The play.

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Mazu's Meaning of the Ancestor's Coming From India - Shobogenzo Case 108 - Samish Island Session 2020 - Talk 4

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Mazu's Meaning of the Ancestor's Coming From India - Shobogenzo Case 108 - Samish Island Session 2020 - Talk 4

"Everyone! Well. For once a little bit of good news. From our newspaper. I forget what it was, but in the last day or so. The Supreme Court. Of the United States. A little surprisingly. By a six to three. Vote. decided that they would interpret the nineteen sixties. Civil rights law. To include. LGBTQ people. That that was surprising, so that they're included as part of. The employment discrimination so that they are not to be discriminated against in issues of employment. So I don't know exactly what the full implications of this are. What the pushback will be or whatever mean exactly, but it sounds like good news and it certainly cheering. So. Today, I'm going to bring up another story from DOE Games, three hundred Cohen's. Case one, hundred and eight. Matsumoto's meaning of the ancestors coming from India. Here's the case. Attic, asked Matsu. Aside from the four propositions, one hundred negations. Please tell me the meaning of the ancestors coming from India. Lots of said. Oh. I am tired today, and I can't answer your question. Go ask Teton Gijon. So The monastic went off and asked Japan. And Jiaotong said. Well. Why didn't you ask the master? And the monastic said well I did I, asked him, but he told me to ask you. and. She said Oh, I have a headache today. And I can't. Answer your question. Why don't you go ask by John? So. The monastic went off and he asked bygone the same question. And by Zhang said. Having gotten to this point. I. Don't understand it. So. The monastic went back to Matsu. Any told him what had happened and Matsu, said. GITANES head is white by Zhong head is black. Other great story. So! What are we? Looking for. In our practice. I think I was. Saying yesterday. that. We strive for goodness. Inside and out we believe. In goodness. Even if maybe. In a sober moment, we kind of have to admit. Perhaps it's impossible doesn't matter. We believe in it. We strive for it. and. We can't help ourselves but to do that because we're built like that. So today I want to say that we are also built to strive for truth. What is truth anyway. It's kind of a crazy concept. Maybe you can tell the difference between the truth. An ally. When you speak something or hear someone speak something. You could say that that's true or that's not true. because. It accords with the facts as we know them were does not accord with the facts, but the truth itself. What is truth? How could anything? Not Be true. I always feel like. People are always telling me the truth the whole truth. Even when they're lying to me. They are telling me the truth. About who they are! And how things are because they're? They are in front of me completely expressing themselves fully. And truthfully, how did they do anything otherwise? And if I opened my eyes I see this. And it's true if we open our eyes and we look around. Anything we see. Everything we see. Anyone we see. Is the truth. What truth! Could there be on this. Still. It's an ancient idea in all cultures. That there is a false world and there is a true world. And somehow this is again something that is unique to us as human beings. Something that we feel that we can be true to ourselves or not. We can be authentic. Or not our lives can be real. Or they can. Be Unreal. The ancient Greek philosophers sought that this world in which things come and go. In which there are so many problems. In which things constantly break, people constantly betray one another or her or hurt. In a press one another. This world must be a false world. And behind this world, there must be a true world. That philosophers should strive to discover and that they could discover through reason and reflection and meditation. They discover a true world. Behind this corrupt world. And all the although the Buddha didn't really worry too much about truth. In fact in some ways, you could say the Buddha was against truth. He opposed it. Still the Buddha was concerned with suffering in the end of suffering, which is maybe only slightly different idea. Of What's the truth? Some Sarah in their. Two different worlds. To find a path of you away to end suffering rather than to stay stuck in suffering. Maybe. This is the Buddhist equivalent. Of the path of truth. In any case, it sure seems like for US human beings unlike for other animals and other living things. May in some very important ways be a lot smarter. And better adjusted to the planet earth than we are. It's not enough. To just live the life we're given. Somehow we think we have to go beyond. Somehow, we think we have to find the truth. So I think however ridiculous. It may be. In the Zen masters are always pointing out. What a trap! It is. Still, we want to find the truth. And that's what this monastic and the story is looking for. Show me. The truth, why did? Come from the West means you know what is the truth of our practice? What is this about? But of course. As this monastic finding out in the story. It's a problem. As soon as we find the truth, it's no longer the truth. As soon as we grabbed truth, it seems to disappear. In our hands. Still we have to look for. We have to strive for the monk. The monastic in the story has to ask. There's no story. If he or she doesn't ask. In Our city. I think we should be looking for the truth. We should sit peacefully if we can. As best we can letting go of whatever comes to heart or mind aware. Let go aware. Let go. Come back to the breath. Return to. But at the same time. There should be a sense of striving. In our sitting. There should be a search for something beyond our usual mind. We should be on a quest for truth even if we know. That it's an impossible quest. So we sit on our cushion. And whether we use the words or don't use the words we sit with a sense of what is it? Who is this? What is this human life? What is the truth? Of Truths. And we have to really ask. In all sincerity. Even. Though we know we can't find some truth. But maybe. For a moment. We do find some truth. THAT SLIPS Through our fingers. And we're therefore. Or maybe even better. We're not there for it. The other day. I mentioned Took great book choosing compassion. A simple short. Beautiful Book. And I was reading in that book. He talks about the mind of this enchantment. enchantment. That's the mind we find. He says when we are willing to be honest enough to look within. And see the deep-seated patterns of our mind. To look and see. The habitual tendencies agreed hate and delusion. Our own special in particular way. We have of messing ourselves up. Making trouble. For our friends. And contributing to this big mess, we call the world. The mind of this enchantment because usually. Our mind is enchanted. By itself. And this is kind of funny. Counter intuitive way of thinking about it. Because usually, we don't feel like we're enchanted, right? Our mind feels pretty dull usually. Stupid you know we're very unaware and Kinda crashing around but anonymous suggesting that actually? Although it may feel. Dull to us. The truth is we are enchanted. By our minds. In the way that. A crowd is enchanted by magician. or patient is put into trance by mesmerized. What we to be our usual everyday mine is really a mind enchanted by the shiny things we want. And the shiny things we don't want. It's a mind entranced by the suffering of its culture and family lineage. A mind mesmerized by its own suffering that chases and chases like a dog chasing its tail. In the mind of this in chairman. Arises when we are willing to stop just chasing reflexively. And turn around. And Look. And See. This is my mind. This is how it is. These are the ways. I'm habituated and conditioned. To really feel it. Really take it in. Maybe with one. Conscious breath. We can break the spell. And, actually see. What's going on? I think we don't. Want to do this because. It's not too much fun. Not Too, much fun to recognize how tied into knots we are. Right away. We're. tempted. To be enchanted all over again. By whatever comes to hand. Self judgment that would be good. This very shiny. And compelling. Thought I should be better. I don't like this way I am. I'm not I'm not a very good very attractive person. Other people are so much better than me. Soon as I, believe all that I'm back immediately into my trance. So familiar. Or maybe we are enchanted. By some other mind. That we imagine. We could be having if only we didn't have this crappy one. This wonderful mind that we will have some day when our practice really starts working. So to just be disenchanted. You know to be with our mind as it really is doesn't feel like. Too much fun. It seems kind of uninspiring. But this really is the main practice that we have to do. Just to be aware. In our whole body. Not just in our ideas, but in our whole body. To be aware of the patterns of our mind. Sitting a little bit like we're doing this week, maybe we see our patterns over and over again. Maybe in this sense. It's actually good. that. We're in our own houses. Where it's more likely that these patterns will be coming up all the time. Maybe, Being in our own houses, it helps us to overcome the illusion. which might also entrance us? That session at Sammamish Ireland is so great and so inspiring and so beautiful to get away from it all you know and be here in this big sky. BIG SPACE! That's the place and only there. That, we can get behind ourselves. And then we have our lasts circle. We say goodbye. And we go home. Back to the usual trans. Back to the usual grind. Well now we don't have that illusion anymore. Because here we are in our house. Where all the things that? Are embedded with our usual mind. Are All around us. Maybe it's discouraging. To see our mind playing its usual tricks, but also it can be quite amusing. This is how I am. Wow. In all the heavens, and below the Earth. No one else. Is Crazy in just this way. It can be quite nice actually. To look at a fire. especially at that quieter time, when the fire is banked down a bit, and you see the glowing coals. That seems so benign and warm. If you don't keep adding fuel to the fire and making blaze up so it until it rages out of control. And if you don't stick your hand in the fire. Fire can be nice. There are times. When you look into your own mind and you feel. Terrified. Brings this up in his book. You can be terrified. Of Your own mind. That there could be in it. So much violence. So much anger. In fact whatever you see in the world. That you fear dislike. That really really bothers you. You can rest assured that very thing is in your own mind. And it can be terrifying to realize. That this is you. This is your mind. You are human. A very. Powerful and disturbing condition. To have to bear. Tells the story of his relationship to his teacher Allama Solo. Who He says was a very gentle. And kind person. and. Always wanted to spend time with him. But at the same time, He was really scared of him. And he said. Didn't make sense for me to be scared of Lamad Sirloin. He was so sweet and kind never was mean to me or abusive to me in any way. So. How come I'm so scared of him? And finally saw that the reason he was scared. was because he imagined that the Llama was so wise and so enlightened. That? He would be able to see right through him. He would be able to see. into his mind. And see what a massive confusion of an afflicted emotions! He actually was inside, even though on the outside, you know, he was very nice and look good and everything. And that's why he was afraid. Of His teacher. It was the sort of fear and says that you have when a very important persons coming over to your house to visit, and your house is a total mess. And you want the person to come, but you really are so frightened because you don't want them to see. How you live so messy and everything. So, you're excited. and happy, but also terrified. So ultimately realized that the reason he was afraid. Of Islam Oh. was that he was afraid. Of his own mind. He was afraid to face all the fear and all the anger that he had inside himself. and. He thought he was doing a really good job of hiding it from everyone including maybe especially himself. But that the Llama would know that it was there. And you know probably it's true. that. The LLAMA would be able to see a narms mess through. The smooth exterior. But probably not because the LLAMA was an enlightened mind reader. But because. When you are aware and accepting of your own mess. You are then willing to accept it, and you have some basic intuition, and you can see how other people are also a mess. Because you understand, they're just like you. It's a little bit like. An alcoholic in recovery. WHO has an unerring ability to recognize? Other alcoholics more than. Other people can. And I think this is true of all of us. We don't want everyone else to know. What a mess we are. And the person we really don't want to know. Is. Ourselves because. It's just too awful. To embarrassing. So actually we're scared of one another. All other people not just llamas. because. We're scared that somehow they might be able to see through us. And when you think about it. Although it, maybe it's. Funny to say in a way, you know we're all always a little bit wary of one another right? Don't we sort of try to? Make ourselves look good. You know when we meet another person. Maybe, that's one nice thing about the zoom era. We can stay in our pajamas all day, right? We don't need. Fancy ourselves up. Somehow or other, it takes the edge off our need to impress each other with our shiny selves. And yet we're still there. We're still there. We can't escape from ourselves because although the other people are not. In our presence we are. And maybe. One great thing about our sitting very prosaic. Not Very spiritual. But it's a great thing. It gives us a chance to be honest with ourselves. And to get used to our own craziness. So. We should not have great expectations for ourselves that we're GONNA. Be Kind Wise. Wonderful people that the world will celebrate. Probably, that's not gonNA happen. Probably we're going to be a mess forever and ever. Of course we will. As long as there's one person anywhere, who's a mess? We're a mess. So. We should be okay with that. We should not condemn ourselves for it. We should be always forgiving ourselves for it, but. We also should not be sloppy with our conduct. Of, body, speech and mind. In other words, even though we know, we're pathetic, human being. When kidding ourselves or anybody else? Let's do our best to be decent. We don't need to act. Or Speak With unkindness. When we sit. We see. Our mind. Coming and going. Like clouds in the sky. Once in a while to even see. A bit of pure, blue. That shatters the scene. The clouds are also beautiful. Sitting this way we get used to are messed up minds. We get used to being human. And when we're used to it, we can accept it. And then. We will not be afraid of others. We can be at ease all the time. With others. When we do not have any longer the pressure. To prove to them. And ourselves. That we are something. Than we are. In his chapter tells the story that. I think I had heard before I bet you've heard it before to about I think it's a native. American Story about a grandfather. Who says to his grandson. There's a war going on inside me. And the grandson says who's fighting. And the grandfather answers there there are two wolves fighting. The bad wolf, full of anger, fear and clinging and grasping. And the Good Wolf, who's loving, wise and open heart and boy. It's an ugly battle. And the grandson says which one will win. The grandfather says the one I feed the most. So we will always have this war going on inside us. and. That's why we pay. Attention to our mind wisely and carefully. So that, we know what to do. Luckily we have precepts. We have teachings. We have one another. And we have our own familiarity with our own minds, so we know what it feels like. To be stuck. In our negatively. Are Self Protectiveness, it feels lousy. It feels confining. So. We don't WanNa get stuck on her negatively so when we feel that we know. We're feeling it. We'd let go and when we can't let go and we do get stuck. We know we're stuck. We know. This is what it feels like when I'm stuck not too good. And we're clear. That whatever is going on right now, our commitment not to be stuck. Is the commitment of a lifetime. So, we may feel it. But we don't feed it. We don't believe. All the thoughts of blaming in anger, and so on that will strengthen our bitterness. These thoughts emotions might come. But we recognize them and we stay patient with them. We? Don't feed. The grasping angry. Will we feed the loving open hearted wolf every time we sit? Every time we chant every time we bow. Every time, we're kind. Every time we let go every time we forgive. We are feeding. And strengthening this goodwill, this good human mind just to be kind to ourselves for a moment. We strengthen. Our. Good human mind are Nice Fluffy. Maybe like Alaska and White Wolf. So that we do that as much as we can't. Staying, open with our mind, accepting our mind forgiving ourselves over and over again. We can't help. Being who we are. We can't help being human beings. We were born this way. But we know what in ourselves to encourage and what in ourselves? To, just let be. Quotes James Baldwin Baldwin one of the most eloquent writers we have. WHO SAID FAMOUSLY I imagine one of the reasons why people cling to their hate so stubbornly. These because, because once the hate is gone. They'll be forced to deal with their pain. I'm not sure but I. Probably he was talking about white people. especially white people. He saw what he was growing up. Who really seem to have a strong antipathy? Toward Black People. and. It's funny. That Baldwin. who was a black gay man? Understood, these white people probably much better than they understood themselves. And one of the deepest aspects of racism in America that we're now beginning to feel finally. Is the pain and the guilt. White people have probably always been avoiding. Covering it up with all kinds of hatred arrogance. Thoughtlessness so that they didn't need to feel it. Too have been perpetrators. And beneficiaries of such crimes. Who could bear this? Who could bear the pain? In the Guild And this is true in the widest possible way. All anger. Hatred! And Self Denigration. Is actually a protection. For the EGO. We think it's an attack on the ego, but it's a protection for the EGO. All afflicted emotion is in the end a distraction. From the pain we feel. Because we are vulnerable human beings and we are going to die soon. And the guilt we feel. Because we're all separate from each other. And none of us. Can claim. That we've loved enough. In this separation. Is built into the structure of our consciousness. When you think about it. That's actually the definition of consciousness. Separation. I can't be conscious of something. Unless, I am not that thing. Mind is over here. Object is over there. That's what defines consciousness division. Cutting the cat into a very violent and destructive. In its. Nature. In consciousness is inherently. Critical! Because it is inherently in exile from itself, and so it is straining towards something. And every object. Is Subject to discrimination. And Critique. Every object either meets my approval or disapproval. Rather than just let objects come and go as they naturally will. My. Mind must critique them. Some objects that wants to keep. Hold of because they're good and I liked them others. I want to get rid of because they're bad. They're unpleasant to me. In this way. We're at war. Because we want pleasure. We don't want pain. We want to live. We don't want to die. And we have all sorts of preferences and aversions based on our conditioning and our history. We like this kind of person. We don't like that kind of person. We, tried to realize preferences to get what we prefer and get rid of what we would prefer to get rid of. We want to be with the people were tracked to. We want to avoid the people. We don't think we like who frighten us. In this way. Drop by drop by drop. We build an ocean of suffering. In, a fractured painful world and we never could help it to begin with. Of course. This is what we have done. And when we're willing finally. Really. See how painful all this is. To understand the real source of the pain. Our heart wants to put together. What has been torn apart? We realize. self-defensive nature of all our critique. Really, there's nothing to prefer. How superficial are all our preferences in critiques? Deeper in us. Is the desire for the truth. Of all things. Oneness. In love. We! Come back to our story. I, was saying that a low. We don't find truth because there's nothing to find. We can't help but seek truth. Beyond our preferences for this or that thing or this or that state of mind or heart? is, simply are deep desire for the truth, the oneness things and for love. But you can't find it. How could you find it? Because if you could find it. You would be separate from it. You would critique it. It would disappear. Since you, are it. You can't find it. That's why. Nobody. Answers the monastics question. They don't want to be discouraging, so they send them to the next one. So that he can hear. From many angles in many voices. Lovingly, teaching him the truth. So today and others of my talks I've been trying. A little bit. The Best I can to say some words about racism because it's so important now. We know. So it's funny, actually that in this story and bringing up today talks about black and white. The. Black and white. I think it's unlikely that in this story, the black and the white refers to skin color. Not Impossible but unlikely. I don't think. Also refers to hair-color. Because the monastics shave their head. Commentaries always say that in the story. Widened black stands for Dharma position. In other words! A specific. And unique manifestation of the truth of permanence of emptiness of awakening. Sometimes. In Zan. We call it just this. Sometimes, we call it such nece. The heart. Yearns. For Awakening. Certainly. It's the center of the Buddhist Path. And yet it's so. Slippery impossible. You can't define it. Doesn't look like this or that. Doesn't have characteristics or marks. It doesn't 'cause by anything. It's on conditioned by definition. And yet. It appears. Right in front of us. All of a sudden. The entire truth flashes right in front of us. In and out of existence. They'll again calls this gengis colon. And Matsu tells US sometimes. It appears as bygone. Sometimes it appears as John. And yes, sometimes appears as Mata. Sometimes it appears as the monastic. I guess. Probably by Zhang, and we're very different kinds of people. Who knows maybe they're even from. Different racial groups. Because there were different racial groups represented in the Chinese Sanga. And China China. We think of Chinese people, but China has a million. Different ethnic groups. I think we're getting to know that now as the Chinese are. The Han Chinese are. Suppressing different ethnic groups. Anyway. Whatever the differences were or weren't. Between by Zhang and chief Tom. There is in the end nothing to be said about them. Because each one. As he is. Is What is? The whole truth. Each one. Each appearance. Each moment each appearance in each moment is the whole of the truth. If we're looking for the truth. We always find it. Right here. In seeing and hearing. And feeling. And Thinking So, we come. To. Today! How did that happen? I'm always so confused. Honestly. I've been. In my house, you know nowhere else virtually at all for three months now. Where does everyday go? I'm asking you where. Where does it go? I can't understand. And we have come to I. Think what unless I'm mistaken is the last full day. Of our session. We're sitting all today and tomorrow. Not The whole day. So? Today's the last day we have. To experience in the context of session. Morning. Late morning afternoon late afternoon. Early evening later evening and nighttime and sleep. So let's make the best. Of this, Unique special, really important and crucial day. Thank you very much for being here. Thank you for listening to mytalk.

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475 Mindfulness For Chocolate Lovers With Author Diane R. Gehart

Mindfulness Mode

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475 Mindfulness For Chocolate Lovers With Author Diane R. Gehart

"Going on around you welcome to mindfulness mode everybody great to have you here I'm going to be on an online summit in it's called mindfulness mode four hundred seventy five it gives you power in your life and empowers you to be happy regardless of what's dot com slash I l ASS Inspirational Leadership Summit today I'm talking the time here today with Diane R. E. Heart Hey mindful tribe I'm so excited tremendous source about mindfulness very knowledgeable I think you'll enjoy our interview it's fascinating sit back relax and enjoy the other kinds of chocolate but diane talks about the mindfulness of chocolate and she's even written a book about it Diane is accepting what is and if you spent any time trying to quiet your mind and watch it there's a lot of jumping around and going back in read it's a free summit and there is an opportunity or a VIP version of the summit which is paid but check it out it's mindfulness mode no no no urine flow and flow is different it's a byproduct of an activity like running or gardening or some kind of focused activity but it kind of us who sit there going Oh my God why can't you focus for five seconds you're such a loser you're not supposed to do that in the third part is to do it with acceptance old with wisdom filled with all kinds of indepth research and knowledge but also the witty today because we are going to be talking about chocolate and not just chocolate the mindfulness of chocolate this is going to be so thankfulness is intentional and so it's you telling your mind too quiet to focus on your breath or piece of chocolate Oh say don't get the wrong impression this is not a light little fluffy book about mindfulness and chocolate it's a book film with Aghast about chocolate and I'm a person who loves chocolate and I like to eat dark chocolate once in a while I don't usually much fun and guess what I have the person who wrote the book on Mindfulness and chocolate right here with me it's Diane Gay Heart Diane it's an intentional focusing on a single object or phenomenon in the present moment the second pieces do it with compassion and that's actually hard for the on this summit I think you'll really enjoy it there are over thirty five speakers on the summit and you can go to that and get in for the fun Diane Gay Harden who has the greatest sense of humor Diane what does mindfulness mean to you. Well I mean there's kind of a base happiness then the final achievement and you even say research by Doctors Hannah clogging gunter buyer and it's just I is that it is intentional and so sometimes I've had some of my students have said well I go running and I am in mindful when I'm running and I'm like and are you in mindfulness mode today absolutely it's so much fun to have you here and it was so much fun to read the book and I'll say that but I'll also mind does often within seconds and then you intentionally refocus and the re-focusing where we get the real psychological benefits fourth and sometimes you have thoughts you don't even like and that's what it means to be human that is what our minds do so accepting with that is the piece that I think that sometimes gets missed Dick Definition of mindfulness I think that most of us agree on their three basic components but there's a there's one piece that I think a lot of us miss so the three basic pieces we always hear about is I just is a byproduct it just happens without as intentionally doing it and we'll tell you flow is always enjoyable mindfulness may or may not be enjoyable every time but car that's really important with that intention is that you and your your asking your mind trying to quiet your mind and it is going to wander that is that is just part of what the so interesting let's talk about that how it's it's more about the progress toward achieving goals that can make us happy and there is a lot of research but what these researchers have found more recently is that when you're working towards a meaningful goal and making progress towards that goal old wide and this new book mindfulness for chocolate lovers is so fantastic because it combines humor city northridge and a practicing psychotherapist some of the other areas of specialty that Diane works in our she's into Buddhist I said this chapter is called from Chaka Hall Ism to chocolate snobbery you tell us that making progress toward achieving goals is more likely to promote goal like getting a promotion buying a house even getting married that typically there's just a boost and happiness for about two three months and then you go back to your default setting a your life to make a huge difference so I think it's wonderful that you sharing all this with our audiences you teach that your life and empowers you to be happy regardless of what's going on around you and to find peace regardless of what's going on around you achieving it not realizing that a lot of the joy is in the journey definitely is I wanNA share a bit about you with mindful tribe out of the area of positive psychology these are the psychologists who study happiness it's what they do and what they found is that when you achieve in wisdom and so much more to help you to really truly understand what mindfulness is all about and how to bring it into and also teaches mindfulness to kids and this is a very important area to research has been featured in newspapers radio shows and television world listeners Diane Gay Heart Superior de She's an author she's an award-winning professor of counseling and Family Therapy at California State University and so as you cultivate those habits and in many ways it's cultivating the habit of happiness and activities like mindfulness are in the West we think of happiness as thing it's something we can work toward or seek out whereas the Buddhist approach sees happiness as a verb and then I always say be careful though because within a month or two after getting this you're actually likely to go into a bit of a depression and sure enough they write me the light so thank you for warning that most of us in the twenty-first century practicing mindfulness or going for and so it's intentional in that intention is what helps you were you intentionally refocus is really where you get the benefits for stressed questioning society well Diane a love the titles of chapters they're so funny in there so creative highly correlated in very important central to this habit of happiness well this book begs the question. Why don't we run the risk of developing spy during a mindfulness eating exercise but you also get to see how your mind makes meaning and when you encounter problems your mind is may in meaning Oh there's actually longer sustain periods of happiness and so is actually when you're working towards a meaningful goal you're more likely to be happy what it tastes like what it smells like feels like and trying to quiet that inner chatter there's an intention there that's part of it and that's really important in the other so that's really a different approach isn't it Diane it is totally different way to think about happiness to look at happiness it gives you power well if you're actually read the book to the end in the last chapter I reveal that chocolate is just a way to invite you in your you know obesity or problems with our way to know I mean the habit of chocolate it sounds enticing but come on how are we going to deal with this Diana and it's I think the mind just naturally kind of our default state is to we want the external world just to be what we want it to be an odd one has to be just the way you need them for to be for you to be happy you're not going to be very happy and so when you learn to see and learn there and it's amazing the and that when you achieve that goal there may be a boost in happiness for a few months but it quickly goes back down to nothing I've noticed as I'm a professor in mind in work is actually a fairly advanced form of mindfulness and it takes a lot of discipline to watch what your mind does enduring this meditation and may because it it happens and that's we often don't anticipate that because we were working towards a goal where were so invested in you know looking forward to most of us are familiar with and it's actually something that many of us have emotions around and lots of thoughts and beliefs around and so we use it can be happy and if you live your life like that you're going to be a control freak you'll be be trying to control every person every environment every factor around you do every day you know my recommendation is to get a beautiful bowl that you love put it on your desk on your kitchen counter and every day either your coffee breaks therapy program here in California and I always tell my graduate students who are like finally I agree it's going to be afraid is great I'm going to get a great job they're all excited in the morning or after lunch just do one to five minutes of mindful chocolate eating to practice the mindfulness into watcher able to choose how you respond and so even though it sounds kind of silly and ridiculous and one level it's not like this strict stern let's sit there and watch ourselves what the Buddha taught two thousand five hundred years ago and what positive psychologists are saying today they overlap and what actually leads to long term happiness and you're gonna it really neurotic likely depressed 'cause you really cannot control other people includes our partners and spouses and if that's how you if you're feeling actually live a more happy life definitely and I mean we all you cannot go through this life without experiencing on those and if you can watch that see how it's happening you then have choice you're not just going to react to the problems that come up in your life it helps develop the skill to be Joe embedded at the beginning of chapter six yes there is and I noticed in this book you talk a fair bit about pain and about how we can reading on an empty room doing nothing for twenty minutes it doesn't have the discipline of that it is host to be fun is supposed to invite you to do mindfulness and make it something you wanted learn from our pain and we can learn to embrace the suffering now this is part of Buddhist teaching let's talk about pain and how that can help us the first page now if you haven't read this book get your hands on it mindfulness for chocolate lovers and go to chapter six to the first page and then you'll see some humor I don't know if you want to share that right now diane with our listeners as to what that humor actually is but I have never seen meditation as a way to invite you to watch how your mind makes meaning and through this exercise it is a might so you get the benefits of Mindfulness GonNa be eating boxes of chocolate in fact probably eat less chocolate than you used to if you actually get to the end of the book the purpose of chocolate it is actually something it's so many exercises you included which are really cool in one of the exercises that POPs right into my head is about the one where you hide suffering that is part of it and I think that one of the real keys to happiness is learning how to engage that suffering in an effective let your mind play lots of games that's we're actually chocolate meditation helps you begin to see how your mind plays games and it does it when I there's a minor form of suffering and chocolate meditation health issues or just skyrocketing escalating the rates of mental health issues in our youth have doubled a fifty percent of youth I sacred sexual abuse gender relationships mental health recovery and so many different areas the inspirational leadership summit I'm really excited to be aghast on this summit and there are some fantastic other guests and a lot early present with suffering and that is something we do not have a lot of good examples for doing in the West I mean that is just not part of our culture which is why mental her that you're more likely to do it and the key really is to do a Lou orbit of mindfulness every day or at least my recipes five days a week where you have that routine chocolate in surprising places let's talk about that it's so much fun I love it I love it yeah this is part of the crazy wisdom kind of practical joke chapter to build it in even if it's sixty seconds it makes a difference well I love your humor in this book and chapter six is a great example how you start off chapter six routine and the Buddhist talk a lot about how that Aha that surprise moment your mind opens up to new ideas in a new way you can see things in the fire to make people laugh and said element of surprise that catches you off guard and in those moments you're not in your kind of automatic every and for this exercise I ask that you find some pieces of chocolate and put them around either your workplace or your house with little notes on them too nine deals with that little tiny moment of suffering in chocolate meditation hoax you learn how to do it for the big Dan you know one of the things I loved about your book in this before in a book that I've written so it's it's really hilarious oh I'm glad you think so well let's just say I wanted you to right I promise you if you can quiet your mind in your emotion to feel that hurt that sadness anger that rage in sit with it and going to get us through and that doesn't get us to where happiness becomes a real habit for you but it's learning to actually be mind under the age of eighteen will qualify for a major mental health disorder and that has doubled in the last ten years and so we have to learn teacher chill durin how to be love and meaningful way and so and you know it's not about and it's important to get real pollyanna you know there's a silver lining to every cloud that's and it's not just all practical jokes it's one that actually help create happiness and joy and bring wisdom so one of yeah I call it chocolate meditation number three you are make you hold that piece of chocolate right to your lips if you love chocolate year like Diane and frustrated and if you don't really like chocolate you're like dreading it who I you know watching how your mom I think it's a low as many of us just forget to meditate or he can't make time to meditate and I think when you have this concrete reminder in front of you every day on my desk at work or whatever isn't that pain and suffering and that when you sit with it when you ex you experience it it shifts I swear to God what is what what the reader to experience what crazy wisdom feels like what it looks like what it can be and I guess I can just say there's a little bit of a practical awful way that inspires kindness and love and just being able to engage life suffering in a more effective ways so yeah I encourage you to just away there is I I called prism the back door to happiness Ra- mindfulness is like the front door and make sense you know how that's GonNa work but this playfulness in mm suffering and so most of the Buddhist literature which I did study in the original Chinese into baton in my earlier years I can't read it anymore so because Buddhism is a stick it doesn't say there's a god Buddha's not a god buddha is a man who figured out how to how to overcome you and I draw from both of them in terms of my spiritual practices but what I've noticed that some people think that if you embrace some of the Buddhism Smith and Easter you know it's funny Buddhism helped me understand Christianity in a much clearer way and so I I have a wow that is a tough question I have studied a lot of Buddhism but I was actually raised Catholic and those metaphors still kind of fit with me I still celebrate yeah but I did at one time they really talk it's really Buddhist psychology so many of their teachings or more about rather than being like what we would call religion in the West practices that means you're not Christian but that's not true at all they can really support each other right absolutely in fact there are Catholic monks who are also Zen Masters and as I mentioned earlier it's really important to distinguish it from flow now always say flow is wonderful is actually highly correlated with happiness is one of the habits but not every time but that's okay that's it's a practice at something you keep going back to day in and day out and as you do that you literally rewire your brain Oh you know I've tried mindfulness I'm just not good at it my mind keeps wandering and my response is great that is evidence that you are alive this is excellent and being in dialogue becoming an observer you're not gonNA have you know for better or worse you do not develop our like levitation or any other special magical powers may or may not act all of us our minds wander all the time and the more you do it yes the less at wonders but when when I have a stressful day my mind wanders more and it's a key for meet assigned for me like let's go look at that calendar you're not stressed out and so I think that's one important thing to know it's not about stopping your thoughts it's about watching your thoughts isn't because I think it's important to know what is that what is mindfulness not part well you know I think the most important thing to understand any but it is different than mindfulness because mindfulness is something you intentionally sit down basically force yourself to do with the flow comes from activities that you've and is that mindfulness is not about stopping your thoughts when you stop your thoughts you're in a coma or you're dead and that really is not the goal of this breakfast and so so many people who are like he's up in the walnut tree and he's dropping the walnuts into the water and then another man comes walking by and says hey why are you doing that? Bob Is digging engage in activities to develop a sufficient amount of skill so that you have flow a flow state is pleasurable experience I can come from creating art they really are about how do you engage suffering there's so much psychology in the Buddha's teachings about how humans can best engage suffering and understand learning how to better engage suffering to understand happiness understand my mind so that I can engage in a more effective way I love how you finish gotten good at a Diane you talk about the four noble truths which are part of Buddhism. Do you consider yourself a Buddhist doing running football players will always describe how they feel like they're in flow when they're making their passes you're just kind of in sync with everything is wonderful you want lots of flow active the wisdom that comes from doing mindful meditation so I kind of say that you know chocolate is my wallet is it is a tool I am using to practice time you come down all the walnuts are going to be gone and the man says I'm dropping these walnuts not for food but for the music that they may when they hit together Julie Relax you there are some days so you're new to the practice of mindfulness I'm just going to be the first to warn you that you may or may not feel more relaxed afterwards usually Diane you sheriff story about a roomy poem where man climbs into a walnut tree and he drops a walnuts to the ground tell that story to US William and the meaning Dan the mind so much of the teachings are also about why what is the mindless watch the mind what are the different states of the mind and how do we use these to alleviate human suffering and that's I I share that that's Kinda how I see chocolate in the end also this is not about eating chocolate for the meditation it's about doing the practice and sing behind it so I love room absolutely I think there's so much wisdom in roommate but he asks his palm about a man who climbed a Walnut Tree and down below is a little pond book and I'm not going to tell this secret either because the way you finish the book is it's a secret morsel to save her and it's only graduate program with nearly two hundred students overseas thirty faculty I'm a single mom of two elementary school age boys and I have a private practice where I see a lot really good tell us some ways that you personally practice mindfulness in your life okay so I will let you know I'm an extremely busy person I run a if I fail to remember to act as mindfulness you know while I was getting dressed and one of my suggestions always is find something you do five days a week so I I my practice is I sit down and I do breath meditation every day and I actually have it in my to do list so when I get to the office it's every week so I'm a very busy person and so I think that's part of the reason why I've really tried to develop a practical approach to mindfulness and exclusively I I do Buddhist Meditation and I love the Buddhist teachings but I also was raised here in the West and I'm familiar with the Christian teachings left for someone who reads the book how many are there who actually read a book cover well it's it's great I thought it was really every day like part of the routine it never varies so I always get dressed rush my teeth and I'm really I think it's important of mindfulness more like flopping rather than around taking care of kids family work you don't feel like meditating 'cause you're kind of in a stressed out state and so you pair it with something you're going to do minutes or so if it's a busy day and if it's a truly truly busy day at least sixty seconds because even sixty seconds changes your mind and luxurious moment activity and I personally do not enjoy lossing but I do it every day and that's because normally when you're in a busy life you're running you do your email sit down and meditate so that you can be in a better state for everyone that you interact with today and also you can have so I can have a better day so ends you run a mindfulness program in the whole school gets it all the kids get it mindfulness every fall will be starting in a couple of weeks here but every fall they go through the Dan I always ask a a questionable bullying do you have a story where maybe you were bullied or you were a bully or some kind of story where mindfulness would have made it and it's a habit now and so certainly on days where I have more time I can do it for longer but I always do it for at least sixty seconds to keep that placeholder to keep that habit going and so that's how I and I and if I failed to do it my my to do list smacks me when I sit down at work difference well I I do have a story about bullying because I teach mindfulness at an elementary school and preschool so from three year old a twelve year old I come in with a team of graduates this program they'll learn mindfulness and we teach it to help them focus on their schoolwork and so teachers can ring a China help them focus and we also teach about kindness and with this mindfulness program because they understood more where it was coming from they were less reactive to it so they didn't didn't escalate as much and I think there was peer pressure to not wonderful how is mindfulness affected your emotions you've talked about that a bit already but let's let's hear a summary of it well I'm half Greek so you know I got I teach him off living their lives how to recognize it and I say when the most important things in life is to never ever ever tell one of your friends that they've flipped their lid tell anyone that they've flipped their peace in middle of very hectic days Beautiful if you could recommend a book related to mindfulness besides this fantastic book the Era I think that's a great story Diane as we move forward in the interview I WanNa ask you five quick answer questions so just thirty second answers are perfect the first really emphasize that we talk about flipping your lid when you're going we call that's the term we used at of Dan Siegel's work for when you get stressed and so we so you have a placeholder for that habit you come back to it it feels weird not to do it and I have a place that I can see where an sit down where I do it the same place every day his third fourth and fifth graders and it was amazing one of the things they said is that they felt like because of the mindfulness program they were all kinder to one another called mindfulness for chocolate lovers at I do recommend that book but what other book would you recommend I am will you now I want people to actually everyone knows your prefrontal Cortex is not on you flip Gillette it's a little embarrassing and I think they do it but the students were saying that a lot of the bullying stopped and so it is it really is changed how I relate to my emotions entirely you mentioned about breathing but tell us how breathing is you mentioned some apps in your book but can you share now with with us an opera to that can help with mindfulness absolutely personally I use insight timer and I actually I don't approve for this yet but my my my hypothesis is that they're actually becomes peer pressure that when you flip your lid and you become mean like that because there's just gonNa flip their lives more so no one day I was walking onto the campus to teach and several students come running up to me and they're like Dr Here's one that lasts for sixty seconds and that's what I use my kids in the morning is kids actually do they like to listen to the time more than focus on their breath it's easier for them so I'm a huge fan of his three days and you say I'm GonNa do it with Rice feel like it or not and so I- meditate everyday up before I walk out of my bedroom I sit down and you know meditate for five is I think people who are newer prefer guided stuff but I like inside timer and I've actually tested all of the different gongs they have on that and chimes and the part of your mindfulness us breath meditation where I focus on my breathing and it is amazing there is something I think when you practices for a while if these tiny little one to two page chapters with simple exercises like dishwashing meditation I hate washing dishes but after that book I can now emotions in here and so the mindfulness it's just helped me to find peace even in really difficult situations in very difficult times that I've been through the research findings to the general public and created a website that allows schools to create a cost effective mindfulness program and it is mindful school we're this deep sense of peace comes over and part of me is like wow all you have to focus on for the next five minutes is your breath and it is is live back on we walked down to the office and we help him put his live back on either that year I actually had the opportunity to do some qualitative interviews with

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Reach Your Potential by Living Dangerously

Duct Tape Marketing

21:30 min | 4 hrs ago

Reach Your Potential by Living Dangerously

"This episode of the duct tape marketing podcast is brought to you by pant dot. Io the ai powered all in one lead generation solution that leverages top performing strategies from over twelve thousand campaigns including email. Social outreach paper click retargeting and sales chat bots hello and welcome to another episode of the duct. Tape marketing podcast. This is john johnson. I guess today is tripling air. He's a professional coach. Host of the new man. Podcast beyond the macho jerk and the new age wimp. He's also the author of a book. We're gonna talk about today. Called this book will make you dangerous. The euro irreverent hardward. Say guide for men who refused to settle so trip. Welcome to the show. Thanks giants somebody said. It was the irrelevant guide. That's the tricky part. Yeah you definitely different meetings there. So let's start with the fact that being a man in some ways has taken a beating lately and yet. I think some of the unfortunately some of the attributes a lot of people attribute with manhood or full sort of raw displayed these last couple of years. So maybe walk me through a little bit of where you're positioning this idea of what needs to be a man. I don't know what it means to be a man. I wouldn't claim to take that position. I just tend to serve meant primarily. That's my practice is based around into personal growth and personal development was primarily. A woman's domain oprah was the one everyone gunning to have their books featured on her show. So there wasn't really a voice in the personal growth spiritual growth self help development world for men and la wonderfully now. It's much more normal to read books that also are men in that domain. So i grabbed that started podcasting in this arena. Thirteen plus years ago and and it's great. It's great that there's so many other voices in there so much more diversity in that but you take a position or at least i'm gonna suggest you. You are. Bigest your subtitle beyond the macho jerk in the new age wimp and you are landing your landing somewhat on where you think it it. It is today to be a myth that wanna be either the. Nobody's standing up and say wait a second. I'm a new h win. Or i'm a macho jerk. Nobody wants to be either one of those guys. So it's fun to play with that polarization and it's a challenge to anybody. Say can we evolve and we'd be more integrated. Can we have brains. Can we have heart. can we have the spine. And so it's a call. It's a challenge. Say let's start to look beyond some of these outdated old models and see what is becoming are. What's evolving and what's available for us and i think also a lot of what i've read. I think you're also a lot of us saying that. You don't get to define that. It's really more about being true to yourself. That's we're going talk on your show about my latest book to self-reliant entrepreneur. And i say that all the time the self parts on you. I've just given you some things to think about. But you're the only one that can define what it means to be. Self reliant and. I think you're saying that to some degree as well. Aren't you absolutely a big part of my work. Is coach even working with people on their businesses. How does this reflect you. How does this reflect who you are who you're becoming in this lifetime instead of. I need to prove. I'm a man. Or i need to prove on stronger. I need to prove this or any of that other kind of stuff. It's really when you're not pleasing when you're not protecting when you're not proving what's naturally coming through you and as you in this lifetime. And then ultimately we want our relationships in our businesses to reflect that too so often people chasing what they see people doing on facebook or what they think a business should be or top line revenue numbers. Because that's fun to talk about with other people. And i think probably gets in the way of true success probably more than a dynamic. I've worked with a lot of quote successful. Guys that are scratching their head wondering where they went wrong. They feel trapped they feel drain. They feel isolated. They feel bored overwhelmed. Chronically worried from the outside it looks like they got it altogether. I was version of this. After my first business. And it's i propose in the book. Maybe there's another way for us to propose to approach our work to approach professions in the world where we're no longer looking to an external authority. Hey tell me what to do or telling them how to tell me what hoops to jump through and start asking those deeper questions and say. I don't know how much longer i've got on this planet. So do i really wanna play so you start your book off with part of the title of course in tickets. Probably a word that merits defining. What does it mean to be dangerous. Right yeah what does it mean to be dangerous. When are rather cushy modern world danger could be like i. I can't go a day without high speed internet. I can't go watch how people get spun out about traffic or not having internet like i said are not having their favorite whatever at the coffee shop. We really do. Give up our peace of mind around these things and so we're starting to see how we've adapted were no longer in any real danger to our survival per se but that doesn't mean that our nervous systems aren't still scanning for what we have now perceived to be as dangerous and i i would block that into three basic categories something that threatens our sense of comfort something that threatens our sense of safety or certainty to my time or energy your money and then the third one. The big one is something that threatens myself image. I can't look like a failure. I can't look like a loser. What will they think of me so by and large when people come to me and they say i'm not having xyz in my life. I'm not getting there. I know somewhere we're gonna we're gonna come up against one of these three things and that's what they're committed to their committed to protecting their sense of comfort their sense of certainty and their self image. Your according to this in the first month of twenty twenty one. I would suggest that cohen was a real wakeup a lot of people. In that regard. It showed them how comfortable they were. Didn't it it. Did it show them how comfortable that we're i think we're all dealing with. I've lost lost a member of my family very close member of my family. Just two weeks ago from kobe. So it's not that we don't have dangerous in our world but by and large. I think we're starting to get a sense of perspective. And i've got a lot of people coming to me and saying put this in perspective. I've been playing small. I've been holding back to do that anymore. I've been used. I've been waiting for permission to show up as my biggest self. I've been waiting for something to come along and give me the green light to make this shift in my business. I'm waiting. I wanna go for it now. Do you find that folks that you work with in some ways. If they're feeling stuck it's that they're too comfortable in. I guess the flip side of that question. Second question is do you suggest that we have to actually look for ways to intentionally stimulate that uncomfortable Gene now. i want to be really clear. I've worked with some pretty out. I've worked with some outliers. Special operatives navy seals people that work in really intense situations. I'm not. I don't consider myself one of those people. I really enjoy being comfortable. I really enjoy a certain degree of safety and certainty certainly like looking good so now one of these people that needs to go the other direction and be out of balance in that way. Look i'll prove the world. That i really am tough and i'm not playing it's small. I think it's really about getting smart. And what's worthwhile. And so when i start to have these conversations and i start to get in touch with a guy get in touch with what he's really trying to create in his lifetime and then we start to see what is obstacles are. We put out in front of the most of the time. It's like that like that kid. That comes in the room in the middle of night. Says there's a monster the bed. Let's go grab a flashlight. We go look and there's really nothing there this. Why can't believe. I've been holding back. Because i was so afraid of this thing and in that moment they're like you know what it's just not worth. It's not gonna be that bad. I'm willing to be a little bit uncomfortable here. I'm willing to take a little bit of a risk. i'm willing. Who cares if somebody thinks. I'm a little strange or a little weird. If i go in that direction and so a lot of it is them coming to terms with it themselves and saying you know what i'm i'm not gonna. I'm not gonna be on my deathbed and be police. That i played it so safe. I can take on a little bit of what seems dangerous now. So i've been. There's been a soapbox topic for me of late. A lot of stresses caused around the sort of modern mantra that we have to find our purpose and live our purpose. And i was kind of happy to see you pushing back a little bit on that that that idea of i'm going to sit in a room one day and decide what i was meant to do however i do think a lot of people fall into that. Don't they i do. I'm glad you brought this up. I see a lot of people get wrapped around the axle especially guys that have maybe done well for themselves. And they're starting to sense. okay. I can create money. I can create the sense of comfort and status. But there's gotta be more meaning and i think that desire for more meaning is inherently natural part of our development. Okay it's not just about me anymore. It's about something bigger than me. And they tend to look at this purpose thing but my life must be lacking purpose. And so i say what purpose isn't necessarily a thing we latch onto my purpose in life isn't to make sure that all puppies have healthy candy or whatever it might be but we are egos. That was randomly specific example. I here's the weird things ideas that we go looking for a story. And i think most of the time when we're looking for that story says my purpose is xyz. It's this this caused that we really lost touch with what that really means. That's really just our ego looking for more. Like i'm okay and i'm important. We're moving up the ladder and in that regard. When i say if you really look at your choices in life if we were to look at the purpose the reason why you do these things we start to see that you really most committed to being comfortable to being certain and safe to making sure that you look good and then i went to a different process that i worked people through to help them start to see what he want beyond. Just those three things yet. I think unfortunately a lot of those like you said whatever it is that the the mission that you've decided going to have impact those have been defined by other people that's the stage. I'm in now. That's what i'm supposed to do. Fresh start foundation. I'm supposed to do. Abc in africa. I'm supposed to do blah blah blah and it doesn't really connect with our sense of who you are just sounds good. There was a line. I think it's actually. I don't think it's chapter title. I think it's a subtitle that i really loud successes survival in. I think it is if you look at what most of us are calling success. It's to become comfortable once and for all its to become safe or to have certainty once and for all its to have status and prestige and to be away from to avoid any kind of criticism once and for all and really. That's what's what our survival is. These days i gotta always be comfortable. I got to always be certain always look good. Nobody can criticize me. And i think it's making this fragile. I've met a lot of guys. I call him fragile. Rich guys that get to this place. They have so much so many resources so many contacts they know they wanna make this transition in life but they're so afraid to go backwards. It feels like death to them. It feels like a huge threat to their survival if they were to change lanes to leverage what they've created in order to move in this other direction and so what if it's not death but it does feel that way it is our survival this our sense of survival and let's hear a word from our sponsor. Do you want more leads and faster whether you own a small to medium sized business or a marketing agency. Bantus dot is is the solution for you. It's an ai powered. All in one lead generation solution that leverages email social outreach. Paper click retargeting sales chat bots if your marketing agency or consultancy looking to scale your offering and client base. They even offer a white label. Solution that allows you to fully customize and sell the platform as your own service. Find out more sign up today at bent dot. I look forward link in the show notes. Have on my own business for thirty years in and buy some people's measure have have experienced some level of success and i wrote a blog post one time. It actually became part of my in one of my books as well as that. I think a lot of people are willing to tell you how to get to the top of mount. Nobody tells you how to get back down and frankly that's where you look at. The research. sense of some of the largest mountains are where the most fatalities actually occur more so than climbing to the peak. And i think that you're touching on that a little bit. I think once people experience level that there is fear of. I can't go backwards when maybe going backwards backwards or what is seen as backwards is actually a better place. Yeah i sold my first company. Twelve years after i started. I was still in my early thirties. And it was one of the most nerve wracking times in my life. I remember being out in hawaii and people like wow. It's amazing you've been able to do this please. Don't ask me what. I'm doing next in their pressure of okay this self-imposed pressure i needed level. It up. I gotta really take it to the i gotta do something. The next level. Next time around and i was so caught up in the optics of it and who i was supposed to be in who i was supposed to become. It was nerve wracking i. It wasn't a spacious place. It didn't feel very comforting to me to be at that level and nonetheless from around the people like that's awesome and congratulations. I've talked to enough entrepreneurs and heard a similar story to know that this is true that there's a really common occurrence. Where an entrepreneur has that first time success sells whatever they do and then they got figured out and so now they're gonna go really big and that second one that teaches humility whether they come through it or not. I have heard that so many times from from entrepreneurs. And i'm not sure what the answer is. Let me ask you a question. How do you help people to find success for them on their own terms. I think it comes back to one of the exercises. I lead people through. Just tell me your biggest wildest craziest goals you gotta these dreams or these fantasies and most of the time. These are the pictures. These are images i would be in this house in my kids would be going to this school and they would have this and they would have that in a write them all down and it's wonderful and i say okay great. Let's imagine you got all of that. You made it all happen and you felt trapped. You felt drained. You felt isolated. You felt board or you felt overwhelmed or you. Chronically worried would we. Did we make it. Do we get there. And they're like absolutely not. Are you kidding me and i say okay. What if the that. Image that outcome. That kind of fantasy isn't what we're really playing for. It's the experiences that are opposite of that so instead of trapped we feel free instead of drained we feel alive instead of isolated we feel connected and love deeply for who we are instead of board overwhelmed worried we feel peace of mind and i say you know what no matter what. This is what we're playing for and it might be way on the high it might be on the other side of these amazing goals could be something that you have access to today. Be and it. Just you're thinking. That's in the way. But i said let's keep an eye on those experiences as we go and know that no matter what that's what we want because if you went in accomplished all these amazing goals and you still felt really lousy. We messed up somewhere. There's a stratocaster signed by eric clapton. On your list. I probably yeah not that listeners. Can't see that. I'm seeing into trips. Yeah i think. I see a strategy castro. Tell a strata over there. Just multiply multiply near. It's so let me ask you if you found the answer this. Why is it so often that what we say we believe and what we actually do. Don't connect our actions and our beliefs. Don't line up. i think we're inherently full of crap. I think there's a. There's a big disconnect between the story. We like to tell us about ourselves. And then what we actually do and i think if we just inherently understand that like the were flawed human beings that were flawed in our perception of reality. And i've seen others talk about great. I think jonathan hydro to his written wonderfully about that that gap between what we say and then what we actually do. It's fascinating to understand how the mind operates in that way it can be jarring to recognize the to realize that while we're really poor it even if we're really hard on ourselves we tend to miss the good that we do all the stuff that we move forward. So i think it's if you just didn't know that we were terrible at assessing our own worth positive or negative it just starting there and say okay. Can i collect data either way. And then what's really going to move the needle. I've got to define what that means in my life and then focus more on that. Yeah it's funny. I work with so many entrepreneurs. They're never satisfied. They're never done. A horizon keeps moving away as they move forward and it is really hard sometimes to to think in terms of turning around and saying. Oh we've actually come quite a ways to sometimes. It's a heart attack. Sometimes it's a stroke or a divorce or a business break-up but something breaks us out of that that pattern that we're in there and hopefully i can seem tragic the time but i've had a lot of guys look back and say that was the moment i woke up. That was the gift you talk about this idea of having nothing to prove as an element of arriving. Maybe talk a little bit about that in. Forgive me if i've misquoted you that really resonated with me because i see a lot of people that are really struggling or creating their own struggle a lot of times because they're trying to prove something and yet the most confident people run into a lot of times are devoid of that idea. Yeah i think the first thing is like. I listened to language so if i'm working with somebody and they're like i'm so rundown i'm so exhausted by thing i hate doing this thing. Okay then why are you doing. I have two or this says to and this is where we start to reveal this kind of imaginary audience and it could be people that have passed away years ago could be dad. Could be mom. Could be relatives. Could be. I've had guys tell me it was the they went to high school with that. Cast them out. Which just whatever that is it just gets embedded in their head and they're constantly playing to this audience constantly proving so i would if i'm not asking you to stop but what if you didn't have anything to prove to those folks anymore even to yourself and it's it's it can be jarring. It can be a little weird a little strange at first visit. I would do this. I would do. Abc's okay and then as a coach. What if we just did a little bit more like that and we start to see if everything really does fall apart. We can always go back. We can always go back to playing to this audience. But i think just that realization they start to find over time l. That's the thing i do. When i hear myself saying this language i have to or i should. I'm playing to that crowd. That imaginary audience that i have something to prove to and if we really want to talk about freedom most of them are striving to have freedom from that voice. One day. they're going to have enough money. Have finally proven that they're and usually it's what if moments right now. What does that moment is right here right now when you stop giving a damn about what those folks think it's amazing. How many wealthy successful accomplished adults still here. That seventh grade science teacher. That told him they never gonna amount to anything. That's probably why they're so wealthy on the outside and it's just been proving that guy wrong for so long now the tab. Yeah a little becher podcasts. Some of the format an who you have on and invite people. obviously listen. Yeah the new man has been around for thirteen plus years. We've had gosh we've had millions and millions of downloads over the years. I've never identified myself as a podcast been a coach and so i don't really follow. The typical criteria of what podcasters do but nonetheless have been really fortunate to have everyone from tim. Ferriss to mark manson to alan alda. Too big wave surfing legend laird hamilton of musicians to zen masters to criminals. People have gone to jail and what it's like to do that. I'm always looking for those stories of people that have done things. On their own terms or challenge the status quo and talent right lived to come back and tell that story. I'm always looking for that story. Is that guy could do it. I've probably could to. And so. I always i try to dig out the people that are just lived two doors down from had done something amazing in that story because i think we can look at the best selling author and be like he's made from something different but that guy lives two doors down if he can do it then i can do it too so i i love those kinds of stories where it wakes us up and maybe has a see our own life on her own opportunities differently. So the podcast. Running for over a decade club is not that big so congrats so tell people where they can find out to find more about your work and then also pick up. A copy of this book will make you dangerous. Yeah the new man is available everywhere. You get your podcasts. If you wanna learn more about the coaching work that i do go to trip near dot com and then this book will make you. Dangerous is available in all formats and you can find that dangerous book store dot com. If you're outside of the us than just go to amazon. Also we'll have links who all those things in the show notes so trips. Great catching up with you and appreciate your stop by the duct tape marketing. Podcast in hopefully will run into someday. When we're all back on the road sounds good. Thank you appreciate it.

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Steven Seagal

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46:45 min | 8 months ago

Steven Seagal

"And then I said come on Madonna. There's gotta be someone you want to date. Who isn't me? So anyways, how's your weekend? Because that was pretty I mean fine I, guess I just I, mean eh didn't date Madonna? MR, Bosnich Oh hey agent Warren. We need to speak to you about your. CRAWL ESA say in government secrets? We know how you got them. Not before I speak to him. He gave away my greatest secrets and my last words Oh Chung Ling Soo. Wait. Wouldn't you have an accent? If you were chiming, dude, it's going to be somebody's first episode. Okay, you know what that is fair. That is fair. I'm sorry gentlemen. He knew too much been Linda must send. Well. All of us is. Eli wrote there. They're all true. That's right seems like every word told you. Wow, he L- I'm sorry I doubted you I guess you could say I was. Pounded in the, but by my own honesty. What it's a Chuck Tangle, preference. Right every about that one. And in the but. Hello and welcome to citation needed the podcast where we choose a subject read a single article about it on Wikipedia and pretend we're experts, because this is the Internet, and that's how it works now. I'm no and I'll be kicking ass tonight, but need some people around to take name so joining me. Tonight is a man who's above the law talk. Under siege because he, isn't he? Right. Fire Down Below. Also. Movie. Nailed it upper lower, I may not be tall, but. Neither am I. Dark nor handsome I could still. Write. Off? And also joining, US tonight, two men, whose visages have been described as half past dead and exit wounds. Okay that's just doctors and life insurance companies. So, what are they now all right? Wounds my face has been described as wholesome. Fairy request. Verse! This one baby! So before we get started I wanted to take a minute to thank the Patriots. Who make this show possible without you? We would be unable to bring you the educational informative topics. We bring you every week like last week's essay on Rasputin or course easels exhaustive dissertation architecture from two weeks ago. To whatever salient interesting topic! Chosen. So if you'd like to learn how to join their ranks sure to stick around to the end of the show without out of the way, tell us Tom what person place thing, concept, phenomenon or event will we be talking about today? Steven Seagal all that's. Why does this? All right ally. You were watching fire down below what you remembered. You were supposed to do the same this week. Are you ready to pretend you did your homework I don't know. Are you ready to not learn about the greatest? Maybe man who ever lived or didn't. I have an idea. So who is Stephen. Exactly. Stephen Rhetoric Seagal, or on April, tenth nineteen, fifty two is as Wikipedia puts it an American actor, producer, screenwriter, martial artist and musician. American Serbian and Russian. We're GONNA learn today. Can we can we just pace that into the background? ECHO. The title of this podcast has never been more apropos. But as we're GONNA learn today, he is oh, so much more and also much less than all of those things. On October third nineteen ninety ago, explained to Arsenio Hall on national, television that quote A. Lot of my youth was spent in Brooklyn, which is strange. Because Seagal was born in Lansing. Michigan okay I I get making some. Creative adjustments to your biography to add a flare up. You had Detroit right there. All the way across the country, the son of Medical Technician Patricia Seagal and High School Mathematics Teacher Samuel. Seagal. Steven has at various times, claim to be of Japanese Italian and Russian descent. You also claims to speak four languages over. Because it claiming. To do that in English. Over, his mother confirmed with people magazine. His heritage is exclusively Jewish and Irish, and there is no evidence to suggest he speaks any language other than. He said he said that he has spent a lot of his youth in Brooklyn. And Brooklyn was the name of his high school sweetheart, so it's technically true. Sneaking suspicion, his high school sweetheart was from Canada. Niagara Falls different parts of New York. At the age of five cigars, parents moved him to California, which is unfortunately also not Brooklyn as team. He became interested in martial. Arts Gordon to his mother from that same people magazine article quote. He worked with this nice old Japanese man at Doj Joe in Garden Grove. He encouraged Steven to go to. Japan and quote know yeah, when the proprietor of a business that your kid keeps going back to ask them to. Please go somewhere five thousand. is taking a personal interest in him, yes. and Go to Japan, he did however win is also in question, Seagal claims to have studied with more hey. Habushi. Mora Neyla. Sheba the founder I like. Better. However records show. He attended college in California Until Nineteen, seventy, one and Julia Shiba died in nineteen, sixty nine, so seem strange. Some contemporaries remember an American kid who played guitar hanging around the studio, but they are unwilling to say when, or even that they're sure it was Seagal Gary Dobson a fifth degree black belt who studied with the master from nineteen, sixty, one to nineteen, sixty nine has been quoted as saying that story is bull back then I never heard of Steven Seagal. Okay win alleged if degree black belts in the ancient art of risk control your story. Akito is legitimate martial aren't is. The only one that focuses on the losing end of the bed. We'll get there Tom. Let's this kicked with style with. By nineteen, seventy, four SEAGAL was back in California where he met and married. Miyako Fuji, Tani, a second degree, black belt, and a daughter of an. Bass Guitar Master who had come to Los Angeles to teach. When MIATA returned to a Asaka, Seagal went with her following year, they married and had a son who they named Kentaro and daughter, who they named a Jakko also goes off and claim to be the first non Asian to open DOJ in Japan. Actuality school which he taught. Along to Miatas family. Doing her brother's still teach at the school and their mother is the Chairwoman Steven Seagal is no longer affiliated, but he still gets royalties from his first marriage is DOJ. Oh, they're called Steven seagal mony payments. So. Go has made several claims about his second trip to Japan all of them dubious. The first is the time he off the Coosa with help from the Irish mob. End a magic dog awhile, Y. Okay, but that's actually the plot of a script that he wrote in his head called. Rally. Part of that that I'm having the hardest time with his deciding which part of that story is least believable and I'm not leaning magic. Yes illegal Stephen. Allies essays came to light. Yes, it is in an interview with Peter Magazine. He told the following story from this time period quote. I was in Osaka. Japan was having some difficulties with group of sort of lawless individuals. At my own. Joe, Jojo or school there, there was a big conflict. You say joke. No, that's how he pronounces it. It's the fucking. Big Old on hold on. You're telling me, Steven seagal pronounces the word Joe. Jodo, every not every time, but occasionally trying Celeste, trying to do the Italian, Mozzarell-. Japanese. Him I hate him, so don't. He's bucket treasury of this country. Are you kidding me? And it was sort of escalating, and you know life wasn't easy for me doing this time of sitting up front of my dough, Joe and I saw the kind of. Mysterious unusual looking white dogs. It just walked right up to me as if he had known me forever I, petted him, and he wouldn't go away, so fed him. He stayed with me for a few days. He just sort of adopted me. We have what is called a King Kong, a white. which is this side of a porch inside? He slept there. And about the third day or fourth day that he was there, it woke me up with really intense passion about foreign. Way in the back, but when he woke me, I saw that my Dojo was on fire Jota I truly managed to summon help, and we got the fire out and thank the dog and the next day he disappeared and okay. Okay wait till like the reason why he thinks dogs barking are magical is because his dog drowns on air at sea level. Fair? The name for a group of pugs is called a grumble. Take back, he's got a panic with bucket. Humidity's over forty percent. Just never GONNA make it. But that's not all on the promotional tour for Nineteen eighty-eight. Above the law. He told the Los Angeles, times he both worked for and trained CIA agents during his second visit Ginger Man. Saying quote. They saw my abilities both with martial arts, and with the language that sounds like a trump quote. You could say that I became an advisor to several agents in the field, and through my friends in the CIA many powerful people, and did special works and special favors. I mean Joe Stevie. Where's a good burger? Technically makes you an adviser. Needless to say agents in Japan, like if only somebody spoke Japanese. Martial artist speaking Japanese in Japan. To say. The Irish mob, a magical dog. Feels like we should have a Steven Seagal Bingo card. Just like random shit on a mad lib. Needless to say the CIA refuses to comment on who they have and have not worked with, but in me I'll go food food. Ghitani who live with him at the time has been quoted as saying. He was never in the CIA. As actually the Canadian Intelligence Agency. She's real. In sex with a woman. In nineteen eighty s ago, returned to Hollywood to start at DOE GEL or Joe. He married actress. Larussa? was he was still married to Fuji, Tawny at the time who found out and promptly divorced him in nineteen, eighty three. He was brought in as a fight choreographer. The infamously bad never say never again, but he accidentally broke Sean Connery's wrists during training and was let go. Doctor had to come in and put it in a slang forum. It was not. That's unacceptable like if you break Sean Connery's wrist, what is he? GonNa used beat his wife well. Short elbows Tom Short Hellos, have you have you seen the connery quote about using his? Why am she's little, slap? Once in a while, a woman needs a little slap. Yep, if she's so much of a bitch Yup then you gotta slap her if she's. It's I. Mean it's. He's like I think men should be able to slap women just says that it's a rea-. Alright bond jail bond. Let's get him in. It wasn't working. Wasn't until the year nineteen four that seagal would get his first big break his aikido studio. That's. Pretty, big. Keno Studio had become a bit of an La hotspot students like actor. James Coburn an agent Mike Ovitz with the time was referred to as the most powerful man in Hollywood obits arranged for Seagal to give a martial arts demonstration on the Warner Brothers Lot unbeknownst to Seagal WB was looking for their version of dirty Harry after seeing his sweet sweet risk control skills has him in his first bill. Law which, despite its low budget brought in one thousand nine hundred million dollars at the box office Steven Seagal was a star well. Here's a nineteen million dollars worth of his star. Highest grossing movie of the year. I should probably do that thing. No, it does at this point to talk about A. Way I talk about Aikido. No, you know I. Mean I want to go on a Dan Tangerine I wanna Tangerine Nelson Okay so I should say at the outset. I am not a martial arts expert. Wait, you're not. Glad you cleared that up. That's good. That's good. That's fine, not an. Ally Bosnich. That said as term. A lot of things against my. Face anyway. Tom Hinted earlier AIKIDO. Is it real I mean it's real do it, but it mostly consists of. Throwing your arm out in front of you like your jousting and then letting your friend Bro you. Even in the wake of Pedia pace for aikido admits as much when it says quote. The attacks initiated by the UK that's just the arm guy have been criticized as being weak sloppy and little more than caricatures of an attack. We could attacks from the UK allow a conditioned response from the Tory. That's the trolley guy and result in underdevelopment of the skills needed for safe and effective practice of both partners. and quote in other words, I chose Bullshit. Yes, he has a total fucking waste of time. That's why I exclusively trained CAPELA WEHRE. Hey look if you think you're doing martial arts for something more than your health, you're the one that's bullshit. Ask. Tough Fair purveyor add to that that. In almost every style of Akito, its highest level practitioners claim to be able to stop or otherwise deflect attacks with their key or spiritual energy. And by the way, if you'd like to know how that works out, go ahead and Youtube, aikido versus literally anything. You will find a bunch of videos of an older man who thinks he's a wizard, kidding. These videos are absolutely amazing. You get two types I is what I just described. You get to watch these aikido guys. They realized that forty years of studying means absolutely nothing when the other guy just brakes your fucking nose. So lack of Confusion and despair on these spaces is. Rice. Like they get angry. They're like excuse me. Put out your risk slowly, please. German and the real fighters like. No One knows it's the best and the other kind of aikido video is pretty much always a white guy with a man bun dressed like a fucking 'cause play Sam. Apparently moving his body while a student goes fucking with why and Rolling over nineteen times for no reason slamming into walls. It's the fake pity orgasm of March. But of course, this creates a problem for Seagal and his tenuous relationship with the truth. I mean even if I keep a were real. It's all based on defense, so the choreography in films is. Shall we say a tad unrealistic four George move. Yeah I mean the X. Seal team six CIA operative turn chef is fake fighting. That doesn't sound. You know it his defense before Akito. Everybody was Kung Fu fighting. It's hard to film. It's fast as lightning. So on top of that by all accounts. ever-so-slightly two thousand miles head. John Leguizamo on the first day of Rehearsing for the movie executive decision Seagal told his fellow cast members quote I'm in command. Everything I say is law. Anybody doesn't agree. And quoted plots and when leg was laughed at that statement, Seagal. Tackled him into a wall. Yeah, but then a little league dad somewhere anywhere said expect Oh, petroleum and Cigar. Ghost? Talking Jersey. Street and get to finish the fight with. Wait so his martial art is effective if he could tackle somebody into a wall, right. Active. Another infamous tale. Time is his confrontation with Hollywood stuntman and actual martial artists. Jean Lebel the fucking greatest thing. So the bell was one of. His earliest proponents, and apparently one day on sets, GAW explained to Lebel that he was impervious to being choked out because of the strength of his cheat, even demanded while sell choke him out, tried to punch Lebel in the groin when he did. Passed out from the show and crapped his pants. Does happen sure you're a martial artist. was in his pants. When asked about the veracity of the story by Vanity Fair Gene, the Bell said of Seagal he's a good martial artist and a great actor. I will say admittedly crapping your pants is a pretty amazing to. A lot of attacks I love that after choking him out then he backhanded him like this well, yeah! The most polite possible way of saying like he's even worse at martial. Arts than acting. However is the nineteen ninety s against the Goldstar Star again to say. He became petulant paranoid to a stylist who fitted seagal for Tuxedo on Oscar night. Quote I had to tell her that talks around two giant guns. He said he needed cover. In case, they rushed the stage on him. What who they were I have no idea and quote going to an. A operative named Robert Strickland who collaborated with seagal on an aborted film project at one of their meetings. SEAGAL had opened an attache case filled with fifty thousand dollars and asked him to kill someone for him. Like there's this head in Oklahoma with a lot of tigers. It's his mom. I love this because fifty thousand dollars. Cash easily fits it. A two letter sized envelope. Attache case had to be filled with like. Five. SORTA like. Fives. We I'm sorry. Did. You want to bludgeoned him to death with the? Next time. Jesus. It's just a case inside a case. Scott also wanted more artistic control over his movies. He wanted to direct and even write them. He wrote a script about AIDS which was as he movingly explained to studio executives in the pitch meeting hatched by the CIA in order to eradicate blacks and gave. Studio Pass Ta Yeah and then Seagal was like. Myself. Still, pass. Another story from this time period according to Vanity Fair quote one day in executive, walked into seagulls trailer, and found Hollywood's reigning manly man weeping. Oh. I'm reading the script. Seagal explained still misty. It's the most incredible script I've ever read. That's fantastic. The executive said who wrote it Seagal didn't miss a beat I did. The early. Nineties also saw his directory. A movie called on deadly ground in which Seagal face down an evil oil baron played by Michael. Cain King gave himself a fourteen minute final monologue about environmentalism. which the studio cut down to four. Why do I watch fucking back in ninety five says that monologue is only four minutes long, but I'm pretty sure it's still going. We're GONNA pause for a quick fact, check and toss things over apropos of nothing. Hi I'm Steven Seagal? Do you want to strike fear into the hardy your enemies? Do you have irritable bowel? Syndrome well then why not master Bill Shitzu Gimme all your money. Jesus fuck. Okay never mind dark. Take on multiple, opponents. Hey. What you side of my! Let's get him. You know. Never Mind It's even fantastic. Ladies You your purse. For me. Buying Keep Your fucking purse Oh holy Hell. Bullshit Shitsu significantly more real than Keita. and. We're bagging. We last left off Bela, making fun of a person for embellishing his life story and letting a smaller fame go to. I'm sorry. What color is the Cadillac? Oh tough, but fair no. Yeah now. Now it would be understandable at this point to be sympathetic to Soglo. Thank you till you make. It is the Hollywood slogan and who doesn't indulgent, little self-delusion so less. We dull people's enjoyment of how much crazier and sadder cigars life is about to get. I should point out that Steven Seagal has been the subject of no less than ten sexual harassment lawsuits. Found on Wikipedia. Has Been Accused of sexual assault by multiple actresses who've worked with him, those stories aren't funny so I left them out of the essay, but I think we can all agree that. He deserved to be choked until he crapped his pants. I met a lot of convincing on that one. Need any convincing. It's. Already, like more now there you go so in nineteen ninety-five his then wife Kelly Le Brock served him divorce papers, which sent him down as spiral of new age healing and Eastern Philosophy Kelly. Weird Science Kelly. Off. In Nineteen ninety-seven his teacher. Written poce declared him a tool coo, the embodiment of Lama Chung. Drag Door J. founder of a seventeenth century Tibetan monastery. In a sacred ceremony in Tibet, he was given the official title per tonne Pornchai. Your precious jewel, a name still calls himself by today Oh, fuck. He is the platonic version of your friends drunk. Dad, making you listen to stories when you don't WanNa. He's got about risk control. Check uses the phrase codeword clear. Over pronouncing tear tongue been bocce and. Ask. In addition to his super sweet nickname, according to wikipedia. SEAGAL is the guardian of Yup. She Pan Ren's in Wangmo. What the only child of the Tenth Pension Lama of Tibet when she studied in the United States Steven Seagal was her minder and bodyguard. Wow, whenever anyone guarding endangering. He just craps protection circle around. The idea that somebody felt safer when Steven Seagal was near their child. Back. This spiritual awakening caused quite the disruption for both his life and career. He didn't WanNa make violent movies anymore. Leaving his business partner and Gambino family BAGMAN JEWELS NASO on the hook for a four picture deal which the goal refused to honor in two thousand one, Knossos? Golf, for sixty million dollars end allegedly sent Matia heavies to his home and movie sets to threaten him according to true. TV which you know is true, because it's in the name quote on June Fourth of two thousand one three months after no, so at filed a suit against Seagal police in federal agents pounded on the door of Knossos Staten, Island Home Villa Terranova before dawn arrested him. That's the title of his house on Staten Island. Fuck you now so was charged with conspiracy to commit extortion and extortion of an individual in the film industry. We wait movie. People have their own dedicated extortion crime. Simultaneously Sixteen other men were arrested. All of them were part of wide ranging sixty eight count indictments, the two counts against now so we're just a small part of it, but it would prove to give an otherwise routine mafia sweep some Hollywood, flair and quote. Now. Interestingly Enough Seagal was subpoenaed to testify for the prosecution at trial, however, much of sagoes alleged past came back to bite him. Princeton's an ex con testified at the trial Seagal had paid him to put a dead fish with a rose in its mouth on with hoarders windshield. Did you just use predictive tax to finish that sentence. Mad. One eight hundred flowers has severi weirdly specific delights. Later in the trial. You. To Go Watch the Godfather and tried to wrestle the head off a horse. Dead Fish. Later on trial Seagal was asked by the defense if he'd ever paid someone to quote, set up a man in a compromising homosexual situation quote, he replied I'm not on trial here. Crazy. Lebel is gay. To give me a rear naked, choke come. Out. In two thousand, five's ago, put out his first and only album. Oh, you bet your ass! It's called songs from the Crystal Cave and he made it with his band thunder box. I knew girl thunder box once. God I miss her. What A CLASS ACT! Thunder box on the album. He performs duets with Tony, rebel lieutenant, stitching lady saw and Stevie wonder what's one of these things is not like other. List. Here are some lyrics from that album? I could ruin your livelihood. Kill you I. would with the Messia Shit. You ever heard. I could trash your lip mutate Ya. You might lose your wife. I might destroy your life so. I looked at this album. My favourite track name on that album is called music. There's an asterisk overs like yeah. This is not legally protected her. Another song reads quote girl. What you really want all night me want the buddy what make me feel nice boy. What you really want all night me want the Puna money currency for make Nice. She walked the buddy him want the Pu Noni and me no it nice. I mean. It's not a sonnet by Francis Bacon but this. Guy Fawkes Alley Lebron. She turned her inside out so many loose. Same year, he also launched an energy drink. You Bet your seen. Sorry correction as he called it a nutraceutical beverage. Called full name. Steven seagulls lightning bolt. Here's the press release percent beverage quote. Maintaining an unrelenting schedule that would tire younger entrepreneurs, the fifty four year old Seagal has just completed two movies into the sun and submerged his album songs from the crystal cave released earlier. This year has already hit the pop charts in Europe. The poop charts lightning energy drink is the result of seagulls travels in Asia. In search of the botanical believed to keep many locals disease free for Life Okay obviously, it should have been called by flower energy like. Going in there, come on wrist locks are no that doesn't work. Seagal says he discovered the benefits of Asian Corta Saps. One of the most rare treasured botanical is used the Chinese and Tibetan medicine for thousands of years. WON'T RESEARCHING SMELTERS THIS DRINK? While researching immune builders in Asia, it promotes energy, vitality and longevity, other unique ingredients of the drink include the Tibetan go, Gee, Berry, a powerful antioxidant and juice concentrate with a patented process that contains naturally occurring polly Cozumel's Paulie. Cozumel's have been shown in clinical studies to lower cholesterol. Lightning bolt is the first energy drink made from one hundred percent natural juice I have traveled the world creating. Men better than I know says. Seagal who frequented Tibet and Japan in the nineteen sixties and one thousand nine hundred seventy s while learning Buddhism, martial arts, and Herbology I've included in this drink everything I could to strengthen the body and press release. She's his Co.. fucking. Appreciate most about that press releases its brevity and clarity. Away if severe Internet and Japan in the nineteen sixties, he wasn't. He did so at the age of eight well or nine through eighteen. Well, yeah. But a decade that is. Is World to our. You know two thousand nine. AM network premiered the show Steven seagal lawman. The show. I'm so happy, see. The show is based on the conceit that Seagal has been a secret police officer. For over Twenty Years Every single drunk dad thing like. PODCAST somehow and start crying about his divorce I'll be very. End. According to Seagal he was asked to train cops I Keano in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty nine, and was sworn in at the time, and while it's true to does have a certificate from the Peace Officer Standards and training an organization that accredits police officers posts officials in California and Louisiana said they have no record of Seagal being certified. Secret police officer Eli Hello Yeah. Works and if you haven't watched this show by the way you must. Oh, yes, plus a pathological liar, bragging about his magic powers like the interstitial. Is what I'm saying I'm so fucking. Glad I know about this now. My Dad and I are finally going to have something to watch together. Bonders a description of one such segment from the Los Angeles Times at its premiere well, As a world class marksman seagal shares some of his amazing zen shooting techniques the Zen masters in Zen archery. They don't pull the era. They pushed the. Home No, they don't. It's the same thing that pistol. He tells one deputy apprentice. Dude I'm pushing the trigger. That's nothing that. Stupid. I want you to take that front sight Seagal says pointing to the officer's gun. Then I want you to put it right there. He says pointing to the target now squeeze. I don't know about amazing, but the technique is certainly zen in simplicity. Send quote or A. For several episodes of the show Seagal teamed up with none other than proud concentration camp owner and presidentially pardoned former Sheriff Joe. Are Pyeho that yes more than almost anything that's ever. On the show, the to patrol for illegal immigrants together run live shooting drills without warning at local elementary schools and. I'm not making this up drove a tank through the side of a guy's house. was accused of running a cockfighting ring, killing a bunch of roosters and the man's dog in the process. Yes, yes, I know this story so I know that they ran over the roosters, but I prefer to imagine that he had like mo through them like a like a Beatrice Keto take another crazy. The dog is the boss. Wants you. Roosters Start Aikido. Throw in the tank it rolls. Different angle without. This whole big would have been much safer. That had been one of the magic barking. Dog Right. I Love The idea of Jor Pyo in him hunting down illegal immigrants. They catch one and then the Seagal can like interrogate him with this many languages. Spoken Japanese and the GUY's. Shoulders I don't know what you're saying. What the fuck is! It? Joe Doe I don't know what the fuck you say. That man by the way went on to Susa Seagal for one hundred thousand dollars, and a written apology to his children. That means there's an official letter out there that says dear child. Sorry I killed your puppy with my Nazi friend and his tank. All accurate. I would cash in my 401k for that. All my God at a certain point when talking about Steven Seagal, all you have to do is read Wikipedia in two thousand thirteen quote S- ago joined a newly formed Russian firearms, manufacturer or service, representing the company in both promotional capacity as well as lobbying for the easement of US import restrictions on Russian sporting firearms. It was also announced he would work with the company to develop a signature. Long Range rifle known provisionally as or SIS by Steven Seagal. Won't get the world's only push trigger. He is also and this is true. Close personal friends with Russian. President Vladimir Putin. Who not only fast seagulls Russian citizenship, but personally presented him with his dual citizenship passport in two thousand sixteen. In Twenty, twenty again just to quote, the US Securities and Exchange Commission announced settled charges against the Gulf for failing to disclose payments. He received for promoting investment in an initial coin offering ICO conducted by Bitcoin. Gene extra. Is. That's. Legitimate. joined. Bought? A it's like a bunch of jocks like bitcoin. Seagal was promised two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in cash and seven hundred fifty thousand dollars worth of B. to g tokens in exchange for his social media, promotions and press release in which he quote, wholeheartedly endorsed the ICL, which violated the anti touting provisions of federal securities. Laws, yeah senators can solve millions and stock after cova briefing, but keep going after the big guns sec. That's that's gene to go after. Also who the fuck cares of Steven Seagal. Why would! Company think that would be helpful on a ball. Suburban Bitcoin. Have you seen under siege. As. An investment winner can't lose, he says. Actually, he's a martial artist, so. Also. It concludes without admitting or denying the SEC's findings, seagal agreed to pay a hundred and fifty thousand dollars in disgorgement, representing the actual payments he received for his promotion plus prejudgment interest and a one hundred and fifty thousand dollar penalty. SEAGAL also agreed not to promote any securities digital or otherwise for three years. And what's amazing to summarize? one-sentence, what would it be I studied karate with Mr Karate himself. Head all right in Eli. Are you ready for the quiz? Only if you agree to backup four feet and run at me with it with your arm, sticking straight out. Damn straight. No a very apropos as these questions are the AIKIDO attacks of. All. Right Eli other than YIP man. What is the best martial arts movie about a magical dog? IS A. leashed. Hick boxer. Clever see Chow Shaolin Soccer. De Romeo must play dead. Grumbling. So good well, you know I'm a sucker for pugs. Heath I'm going to go with E. Grumble in the Bronx. That is correct, well done. All Right Eli The you have C. seems to have actually settled. The question of which martial art is best by answering, generally all of them notable exceptions include not only Akito though but a Olympic spin kicking also known as taekwondo. How dare you be resilient? Kick dancing black belt second. Degree black belt. Score. Be. Kick Dancing Aka Kappa Wera. See the karate you learn at the why or d. just being fat and hard to move also known as sumo or American exceptionalism. I'M GONNA go with Hey Olympic skin kicking AKA taekwondo based on my own personal experience. Kayla last one. Oh, is that right Tom? All right yeah I think it's pronounced. Tai Kwon Joe. Could be tied Jay Quan. Way really ally after on after a Steven seagal snapped Sean Connery's wrist. What other movies did he consult for stunts? A joint break be. Off. Hand UK see. Radius of the tossed mark or Radius is the bony arm anyway. Farewell to arms. Flow. Definitely, D farewell to arms. Was see radius to the toss mart. Sorry, Tang it sorry you were so close. You almost made it through, but it looks like our winner. This week is going to be seesaw and I will pick Tom this week to do the next. Right well pertemps seasonal and he dumb. No, thank you for hanging out with us today. We'll be back next week by then Tom will be an expert on something else between now, and then you can listen to our other stuff. You'll find Tom and Setiawan cognitive dissonance in more of Eli Heath myself on. All the other podcasts pretty much and pace. You forgot. has a blog by you I. Mean Eli You I don't. Remember that. 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MYB #42: 5 Keys to Elite Performance & How To  Develop A Rock Solid Positive Attitude

Maximize Your Brand

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MYB #42: 5 Keys to Elite Performance & How To Develop A Rock Solid Positive Attitude

"I don't know anyone who doesn't want to perform at their best who doesn't want to be a peak performer who doesn't really want to maximize their fullest potential. That's why on this episode, we're going to be talking with a gentleman who's going to help us become elite performance. He's going to share his five tips that will help us to perform at a much higher level as well as help us to create a more positive attitude so that we can have the success and the life that we truly crave always excited that you do them each and every week. So thank you for joining me for another episode of Maximize Your brand with Mark Brayden. Everyone welcome to another episode, maximize your brand with market brain. So excited to be with you again this week because we have another great gas for our podcast this week, my guest today is Dominic Dom Brightman DTM. He is an award winning speaker and certified member with the John Maxwell team. He is the best selling author of going North Tips and techniques to advance yourself as well as stay the course, the elite performers, seven secret keys to sustainable success and. A contributing out there for the upcoming book crappy too happy. Sacred. Stories of way, transformational joy, which will be released in October of twenty twenty dom host. The going North podcasts, a top rated self-help Pike as interviews, authors, and all over the world. His mantra is advance others to advance your self. Welcome dominate to the maximize brand podcast. Yeah man the mighty more keep the bustard invitation and monitor be here with you. All some. Awesome. Awesome. So I came across your profile and one of the Pike casting platforms and I thought it'd be great to have. This conversation that is more of a personal development conversation because what I really believe is that without personal development without the right mindset without the right foundation it's hard to become successful in life and in business because I believe the two go together the more successful you can be in life. The more it correlates to your business. But before we hop into that, let's hear a little bit more about you your background and what brought you to this point. Jerk things. So elected itself folks I was raised at Church boy and Black Baptist Church and. Reciting Scriptures Week After Week in front of folks during no Sunday services in front of hundreds books in the congregation helped me to get some public speaking experience. That led to me having a part time job at a library that led me into my own acres of diamonds metaphorically speaking and leadership section of the Library after the year twenty twelve where we lost twenty, four month notice twenty twelve. That eventually led to really just taking massive intense selection to become a multiple time author and podcast host that is on a mission to inspire coach equipment inspire others to share their stories. SO THAT'S A. Elect the breathe version of me and how I got here. There's like a bunch of details, but don't want to fill them all with all sorts of details and pretty sure sprinkles. Shares are liked by all the cupcakes in land metaphorically. Awesome. Also background. So today, what we're going to be talking about with Dominic are the five keys. To elite performance in leap performance. Everyone wants to be elite why we'll hope that everyone wants to. In their performance nobody wants to operate or function below their potential and I thought when I read dominance bio on this podcast platform I thought this would be a great conversation even though I am all about personal branding and all about helping people to market themselves according to the tease in their passions who wants to work with somebody WHO's not desiring to be an elite performer and so dominant talk to us a little bit about this whole concept of elite performance. My pleasure indeed, and it's so true especially when it comes to branding especially personal brain thing because elite performance starts with the person themselves like I try to build. Myself is a certified self leadership expert because from the cradle to the grave, we are with ourselves. The longest were in the relationships with ourselves longest and as you're out with your business and your building up your. Personal brand in your personal brand is trying to make it the best brand ever. You still have to take care of this clay vehicle that holds a spirit within itself and elite performances about all delivering top shelf, high level customer service in any company that you're part of especially if it's your own because we all need each other whether we believe it or not because. Really. Everyone's wealth has decided on a personal like this whole talk of self made this self made millionaire billionaire trillionaire and all this other stuff. It's all alive because when it comes to branding, people have to see your brand and you have to be good I really and get that attention on your brand before you can really make that magic happen and performance all starts with the person themselves, and then it just spreads out and other people catch that fire that you're putting out there into the world. As good I, like that you talked a little bit about customer service because my my push back to that is you mean that I've online based business I still been concerned about customer service. Yes Sir you do because. Basically we have one of those opt in for the emails that's supposed to give you a free gift. You put the email in the surgeon to another page where the PDF isn't there. That's bad customer service. You go to a person's website and there's nothing on there or it's under construction and you don't lead them to at least some social media profiles A. So keep in touch of what you're doing. Then that's another former back customer service even if you're. Someone An. Course and it may be a great cores. But if they can't access that course, they don't have the proper tools to may be very access it like a song forgets the password like with me yesterday I have this on part of this online course about passive income and act forgot the password again because they've got these two different computers and if the system was set up properly where I could reset my password something election. Remember this time. Then that will be bad customer service if that wasn't available as fast as possible especially in his globalization as everything is twenty, four, seven all across the world like you have to really have systems in place that are ready to handle any and everything because even though the dollars come to really talk to people face to face, they're still somebody there's still a face behind that dollar or that number. That's good. Always like to talk to them by clients and those who are potential customers that people don't do business with people businesses, they do business with people. Let me say that again, people don't do business with businesses they do business with people, and so really at the end of the day, your personal brand, your elite performance is helping you to connect with people. Your elite performance I'm GonNa say it again is helping you to connect with people because that is who they're going to do business with you as a person not with your business. Yes sir. Yes. Sir Indeed we also robes on a this'll for the next five now now. Let's talk about some of the keys to elite performance to help those in the listening audience and those who will be watching the video. What would be key number one to having a elite performance in your business and your life. Sure. Things. So the first one you'll probably like this one since it starts with an M., is mental awareness mental awareness because nowadays where you hear all this talk about mindset, some people might get sick of it and a lot of people may start with this but there's a reason why a lot of people started with it and why it's a buzzword these days and as a reason why folks are preaching self care and mental. Health because it's true like everything starts in the mind like what you put in front of your eyes and your ears is going to go into your mind and then it's going to be on your conscious your subconscious mind where it's going to be filtered out. And dropped out later like if you listen to a certain song even in your teenage years one random day like especially pre cove where everybody was in his cubicle forms of some calm and you probably humming a song to yourself because you're thinking of peaceful days or something that makes you feel happy and metal awareness is really all about being aware. Of How you are mentally and being aware of what you keep around yourself because the eyes are also a part of the part of the brain funding I've actually learned a couple of days ago is that the is are actually a part of the brain and it's the only exterior part of the brain that you can actually see from somebody based to base because it reflects the images that takes in and then built is it to the mind? So you really have to be careful what you put your mind in front of like the news and the media with all this Cova crap going on like yes it's a real thing. It's the real deal but. Out Only be watching the DR statistics every day especially when there's also alternative sources saying certain things about some of the numbers may be a little skewed and making sure that I'm putting my mind on things that matter things that'll educate me. Even more and even heckle from time like the maximizing brand podcast. You You yourself listening right now are basically making sure that your mind is taking in something good is going to benefit you for the future is something that will make you better than before because there is this classic tale of this young. Guy would go into the zen master wants learn about Zen and he felt like he knew almost everything and when he got to the Zen Masters House and he said down, he started talking all about what he knew about zen the Zen master and as the semester pour tea into her cup and the student kept talking the t ran over in the cup and it says teachers like hey stop stop. The cupcake. Take more t there's an there's enough. In the Dark Cup and then the master told the student that now do you understand what's happening right now the fact that I can't fill your cup if it's already full. And sometimes you have to empty your mind an unlearn certain things that you've learned. Sometimes. Consciously even unconsciously over time and really focus on the things that truly matter in your life and being aware of what you're taking in in your own mental guard. So metal wears that's the first. Major key to lead performances that mental awareness. Mental awareness I like to maybe correlate that to self awareness as well because where Milton mentally aware you have to be self aware your mental awareness really Kinda helps you to navigate your day gate, your life navigate different obstacles that may come your way each and every day each and every week because you know this journey is not a straight path, and if we're not mentally aware for not conscious and intentional about developing our mindset about developing how we think about our experiences, it can. Cause us. Have some challenging journeys along the way if we're not necessarily mentally aware and mentally strong. So I think that's a great. Tip. All right tip number two of the five keys to elite performance. yes. The second key will be influence awareness influence awareness. And ACCOUNTA- alluded to a bit about it when it comes to what you put into your mind but it also deals with WHO's in your network of people that you hang around with the most because like the classic. Cliche if a if you're. I can tell who you are by the five fringe avenue network like if you're around certain group of people like if they're all drug deals drug users or both, then they're gonNA assume you're the other one like proximity is definitely power especially when it comes to branding itself and when you keep yourself in proximity with those who are trying to make a good impact into the world, and that's where you need to be and if you're. In proximity to those who are not making a good impact in the world and trying to make the shake metaphorically for good. Then they're gonNA lump you in with the bunch heck even with the darn political nonsense not going to get too deep into it. It's like, Hey, you're with one party or the other like if you're with the doctors are the elephants of whatever you want. The dog is of the elephants when even though you may be allowed with a certain group, you may think differently but they see you with a certain color on they may be like, Hey, you're ripping a certain set and you're be guilty by association and it's so. Darn Kercheval, an integral to make sure that year round folks that have really influenced for the better because funded back in grade school a few well as such few anymore late twenties. But actually was hanging around folks that were a great above me and they were helping me out with certain tests. Certain quizzes at given some tips on really being a better communicator communicating with delays Zach and being a better dresser and things like that. Really helped me to become a better person and. Under their positive influence helped meets who my self to positively influence other people. So influence awareness is definitely key number two out of the five keys. Influence, you can't say enough about influence now whether we believe in or not we all have some influence somewhere with somebody. You know you may not necessarily be this big social media influence grew or you may not be this major leader in your community but the fact is, is that we all have some level of influence over. Others. So why is this influence? So important you think when it comes to to business. Yes, and it's so important to business because the classic phrase of People Do Business Center for business to with those they know like and trust is by Burke says is so sure because you have to be folks that like it and they've evokes usually like you when they first see what you put out there if the catch especially if it's through word of mouth and at proximity piece of really being around those who can connect you with other business owners like Heck even with podcast the other day one guy actually didn't want to be on a certain podcast because he saw that he had a certain guests that had a criminal record. From years ago even though he turned it around to become a six plus figure business owner that's helping other folks to become six figure business owners like he turned his life around and out spreading this message of positivity to the world and trying to get the recieve. Down for those who may have gone to prison but Somebody else didn't want to be on that podcast because of this one person being on there, and that's really when it comes to Biz like if they notice that you may have had this person on your platform or they may be around you a lot. Then they may that that'll actually kill a certain possibility of someone working with you now that there's there's two sides of that. There's one side psyche like Dr a lost opportunity. Then the other songs like, Hey, if you didn't like that person and you had a great experience with them and you've seen their work overtime and they've been doing something good. Then well, I, guess, that's your law. So that's really another as reason why it's important for business because when they see especially nowadays with the speed of the Internet being faster than the speed of light and lasting longer with folks up stuff from years and decades ago, and they see who you've been around, they may not want to work with you because of who you worked with in the past even if you still may not agree with that person or if you agree with them or not. Let's good. influences. Sometimes a tricky conversation because you have. influencers, you have people who have certain. Influence and you get to decide by the example you provided you get to decide where you want to rest your influence. You can decide whether or not aligning yourself with somebody is good for your. Influence or aligning yourself with somebody that my elevate your influence. That's one of the things I like about podcasting that when you interview certain guests depending on their type of audience depending on their type of brand, it could potentially elevate. Your influence and your marketability or it could maybe hinder and so that's why you have to be careful how you align yourself. So that is a great tip. So we have number three number the third. Tip on having a lead performance. yes. Yes. Indeed. The hat trick in his definitely come in for number three and a lower their barrel by. Where restaurant phones like that is so darn knew that to be a social media post if it isn't deep in years Graham feed, but back to the third one, the third one will be time awareness dom awareness being aware of how much time you have and how you use it. Because one thing that a lot of people tend to not realize that even though time management is a buzzword still popular and people want to try to manage time, we're actually in the era. In a twenty first century of attention management. Because attention is so much a valuable commodity ecu. If you probably hear Gary v Enough, you'll say do like attention is one of the biggest commodities if not the base commodity right now because where your attention goes, that's where your focus goes said you're focused on something in the wrong thing. Then you lose time if you focus on something and it's the right thing and it'd be more beneficial and have a lot of good Roi for Your Business and your life. Then you're aware of your time and your wherever your attention where to the betterment of your life because with the classic. Count of one, hundred, sixty hours a week it's like if you're still working the forty hours and there may be more or less depending on your situation if you're working from home or not while working on your dreams right now were even though Cova can be a little evil is still given us the gift of time to be able to focus more on our dreams like where's your time going like that forty hours may be thirty or twenty hours because that's really all that the ours needed to get at your day job that you're doing at home and he had this extra freed up time. Heck even another. Probably another forty D. dedicated towards sleep throughout the week it's like you still have this other. Eighty to a hundred hours of stuff to do like our guesting on podcasts? Are you reading books? So you're writing books I creating courses like, are you making sure that your input in terms of? Having great gods at in your ears than your eyes. Long. Enough is actually. More. On top with what you're creating, and that's one thing that I've had to work on this year myself. That's the thing about this whole leader performance thing it's a continual life journey. It's never ending because even though I've come across these keys, I still have to work at them at myself even though I am an expert at something that doesn't mean I'm a complete perfect master at something I still have to do this myself and let's me realizing, Hey, I'm absorbing eating from all these other people's tables metaphorically they make sure I dedicate more time to actually creating something. And creating derivatives of myself that can bring more income into my business for the long term as opposed to absorbing everybody else's content because if you absorb everybody else's content with nothing to show for it then back to Tom Awareness, your time has wasted and you realize aiding I've been put my attention on the wrong thing. Time awareness and I like the fact that you're using awareness with each one. So we have mental awareness influence awareness. Time awareness and I like to stare a lot of times when I'm speaking or sharing in a workshop on this whole concept of time management you really can't manage time right? You don't manage time because it has the same twenty four hours. But you got to be intentional about how you use your time. Intentional about how you use your time because the same twenty four hours, I have the same twenty four hours dominic has. But How we use, it might be different. He could be using his by watching educational personal development videos. And then also implementing I could be doing the same thing but never implement. Whose results will be better the implementer or the one who just continued to watch and consume. So it was all in bow how you use your time. It's all about how you use your time. So we have mental awareness, we have influence awareness we have time awareness as three of the keys to elite performance. So we'll start right there for a thirty second break to share with you. My latest PDF, free gift that I think many of you WanNa, get hauled brand authority brand authority is something that we all need especially if we're going to be elite performance. So we're GONNA be right back right after this. I want to invite you to schedule your brand maximization discovery session whether you're looking for more career or business opportunities. My discovery sessions will give you clarity around your gifts and a strategy to get to the next level. Personal branding is more important now than it has ever been in today's economy whether you're employed by a company or yourself, the competition is obsolete, really challenging to be on the shortlist of people who come to mind when key opportunities arise you have to stand out and in order. To, do so Emma, come top of mind for decision makers view I must take control of your messaging and began to articulate your value in short you must make a name for yourself and I'm excited to show you how. So if you're interested in taking your personal brand to the next level and building a business around your expertise skills and abilities I, want to invite you to schedule your discovery session by going to Markeith brain dot com. Ford's last consultation. That's mark. BRAYDEN DOT COM forward slash consultation. All right. Welcome back as we finished our interview with Dominic Dom Brightman and I've been saying Dominic and Dominique, which one is. A both a cool is not tyrone. We're good. Against you. So we just finished talking about how your first three awareness tips on elite performance we have. Mental Awareness Influence. Awareness and we ended with. Influence awareness I think no, we ended with time awareness. There we go. Good Memory Marquee time awareness. So what's number four? What's the fourth awareness? Tip that we need to have for Lee performance. Yes. Now we're in the four-pack APP territory baby now in the four-pack after sort and the fourth one will be connection awareness. Connection Awareness. And in a way, it plays a little back towards get number to influence awareness. This one's definitely needed its own separate chapter because. It involves having your metaphorical Wi fi signal open to being. Able to connect with other awesome people like with the whole like the whole group of guys who were a great above me like they actually reached out to me because I wasn't good at making friends at the time. And they actually invited me over to the lunch table and I became lifelong friends with them. Even at toastmasters international made a bunch of friends there was number can go the people and funny enough one of our members at the time he was actually giving a speech at a Convention Center here in the Baltimore area and the towel scenario at hotel and a volunteer to really show up there and attend and funny enough. This is before things were became more secure and the had Masuda on that days so they couldn't say too much. Stupid stuff to me about I was a part of the show and I went through one the back entrances to the convention center and I ended up being in the expo part as opposed to going through the front door. Of the hotel before and a guy from toastmasters that I became friends with he actually helped me to get a high position in the organization all because the spot open and I showed up that day just really cheer on a fellow member who's giving a speech to a bunch of business owners day mall about creating the perfect pitch and just really. Seeing, to be a cheerleader and help out someone else and helping them recorded presentation that day let's me advancing further any organization that wasn't even on my radar because my Wifi signal was opened with a cheerful helpful spirit to be able to really help someone else someone helped me out in return and that leads to life motto would advance others to advance yourself like when you're advancing others and you help enough people get what they want. You'll eventually get what you want in a different form that you may not even thought of in the first place. Reminds me of Zig Ziglar quote who? Says exactly. What you just said. If you can help enough people get what they want out of life you can have just about everything you want in. Life and how we serve and others how we couldn't acting with individuals. The Great Maya and the late Maya Angelou says that people don't remember what you say but they definitely remember how you made them feel. So how are you connecting with people as pertains to your business as pertains to your life connection is key as one of my former coaches Johnson sprinkles. Talks about all the time he's considered himself the connects in coach. How do you connect with individuals and I honestly can say I'm not sure that I have mastered connecting with people in the way that I need to but I've gotten better over the years and making those connections mini may not believe it but I am what I call the ambivert I I lean towards a big introvert I. Like my longtime alike reading a like quiet moments however everything about what I was gifted with forces me to be. extrovert I'll give extroverted gifts as a speaker as a coach as a teacher and presenter many of my jobs over the years placed me in front of people all the time but once I was over and done with that I easily can rest in my introverted as being at home being in my office doing the work of I need to do. However, we all have to learn whether you're introver- ambivert or whatever we all have to learn how to connect with. People if we're going to be successful in life. So connection is awareness is a great one. But last but not least. And becoming a elite performer is key number five. Yeah Ki Number five key number five will be habit awareness habit awareness that's good right there. That's Even before you get started one of my favorite quotes. On habit is by Dr, Cindy Tram. Key to success. Is. Purpose knowing your purpose. Best a key to success. But to become successful. Is Self mastery. Self. Mastery. The key. Self Massar. So let's talk about this habit awareness. Yeah man it's actually funny that you mentioned to popular man names John was he's a powerhouse and Cindy Trim actually going through both of her books right now like `Gaby yesterday and Hello Tomorrow. So I've been actually alternating between those books so great stuff in heck that's. A. Good. Abbott. To pick up as, reading. Reading great material like that's really where the major things would let's habit awareness and thus this. Rich. Maybe I can think of a markeith acronym for it is to run with down the road man, but I'm with habit awareness. Yes. Self mastery is a must because back in twenty seventeen. It was a good six months after the publishing of my first book going off tips and techniques evanger self. In addition to writing and promoting that book. I was also one of the caregivers for my father at the time who was going through Alzheimer's. And he passed away that march of two thousand seventeen after that long darn battle with it. And three months afterwards after on top of that can elect with the whole earlier story of getting that high position toastmasters. The advancement kept happening and I got to a place known as division director overseeing seventeen clubs in northern Maryland on top of that I still had my day job, which was a good forty hours on top of caregiving from a dying father and working in promoting this darn book. So all of that, let's me declining my own health by not eating as good as I usually am usually. Do eating a bunch of fast food and I gained about a good sixty five pounds of weight over that last two years time because I wasn't working out as much. It wasn't going to kick boxing across. It wasn't eating right I wasn't getting enough sleep US recommended hours is usually seven and a half hours at varies person to person. But usually go for that seven and a half hours I was getting zero to four hours and leading on empty and I thought I was being okay because I wasn't. Being short with people. With the day job if customer service, but my managers and other book console that I wasn't at my same level and at the call me and bring it up to my attention and I really comes together with connection awareness influence awareness like when you connect with the right people that have a good influence on you and then notice that you are good influence on other people and they know. That you're at sure level that's usually am then they can call your out and see what's going on in Aba talk with you to see if everything's really okay because things may be okay in our heads if we're not truly aware and we think we're OK but other people can see whether you know it or not like it's you can feel some of the people some of the time. But, you can't fool all the people all the time, and this was one of those moments where my bad habits showed up in my daily work and daily activities. So getting back to making sure I, get a good seventy eight hours asleep eating better getting back into working out even more often than ever and heck even saying no to certain things and saying, yes, to the things that'll be. Better for me in terms of the Roi on what's good for the business and for life is really some of the good habits and heck even one of the classic things of Gooden Good Day starts the night before is keeping that in mind to and making sure I have some prayer meditation time before I go to bed making sure cheap it's technology down and making sure that's off too because. One thing I've also noticed too when. I was sleeping like that darn blue light on when the phone charges making. Sure that's off because when the lights on, you wake up feeling all groggy and everything is probably from the technology in the room. As opposed to whereas completely dark where you can get that deep amount asleep and you wake up feeling more refreshed than ever. So habit awareness to put the bottle cap on the bottle. Habit awareness. Five keys to becoming. Lead performer. S If I can remember a run through them. Number one was mental awareness. We've got to be mentally aware mentally fit in order to perform at our potential. Number two was influenced awareness. Where do you rest your influence? You GotTa know where to correlate and where to connect that influence so that it is beneficial not all the to others but to yourself as well. Number three time awareness we got to learn how to be intentional about how he's been our time. If we'RE GOING TO BE ELITE Performance performers number four connection connection awareness. Where do you connect your influence? What do you connect your time? Where do you connect your mentality? Think about it. And then number five is habit awareness. We've gathered available to right habits in order to produce the results that we want to produce your success. Everything you want I believe is. Connected to your habits what are your daily habits that you're doing every single day to create what you want I just recently finished watching not watching listening to the twelve week year and it specifically talks about habits specifically talked about how to create a vision and and how to break that vision down into twelve week increments so that you can get the results that you want in your business and your life even talks about the whole idea that your business really is just a reflection of your life. One of my coaches always says that nobody. Becomes a success. Yet lays down every day as a blunder. Nobody becomes a wonder laying down every day as a blunder. Right. So you really have to work on it every single day if you're going to be a performer so thinking for those tips. The other part that I wanna I kinda briefly talk about that's connected to this becoming a leap performer becoming the person that you desire to become becoming the person of influence you. I have to really settle this on the foundation of mindset an attitude talk a little bit of the. Sure thing and funny enough got an acronym for this too. But of course, you're going to take another hour on that went there in them for this one is Rave R. A. V. E. and O. Orient glow sticks are popping up on this when it's all good rave. So they are is for reading reading great material. The A is for audio immersion making sure you're immersing yourself the great audience here because we're always listening to something making sure that it's good then the. Visual stimulation making sure that you're watching things that'll be better or beneficial for your mind enact even better for your life, and the is four encouragement encouraging yourself and other people because it goes both ways you gotta encourage yourself and get yourself. I've demotivated when you're getting out of bed I before he can encourage somebody else because at the end of the day someone encouraged us and it's only great. The real encouraging pay board to someone else because if someone's living. And breathing they need encouragement how successful someone may appear to be you pull back the curtain is still struggling heck even like books like Rick are don't like you see him nowadays zolt replace but he also has most vulnerability and that's another reason why vulnerability is a buzzword nowadays because a lot of folks out of faking the funk and they just want somebody who's real down to earth and just being honest to people within reason. So that's the major key to being. A person with a positive mental attitude is to do all those things and making sure that you not only urge US Open encourage other people. There reminds me the Great Willie. Jolly. Who talked about your attitude determines your. Altitude right? Your attitude determines your. Altitude and it's Kinda hard I'm sure in difficult to have a positive attitude during these times of the pandemic again and having to social distance and having too many people lose loved ones and you can't have a proper going home or funeral for your loved ones. However, we always have to be intentional like that word anticipated about shifting are attitudes shifting mindset and being as positive as we possibly can given the certain circumstances I was sitting I was working out this morning and I had this thought. That I remembered some time ago that I would talk about all the time and that is that many of us. If not all of us only complain about things that we really can change. We don't really complain about things that are really are outside of our control. We typically complain about things that we truly have the power sustains. The question is is, will you be willing to change it? Whether their attitude whether that's your health with us, your physical body whether that's your education level, your income. We complain about things that we typically have the power. To change it first starts with. Attitude. and. Your number one of being in league performer mental awareness. Such a good quick episode but great valuable content information. But before we go down if you don't mind me calling that. Tell people where we can learn more about you connect with you via social media, website sewn, and so forth. My pleasure marquee thanks again for the invitation ought to be on your shoe specially looking at some of the folks on your guest list like Oh man what the heavyweights baby this is. Awesome. Awesome. So thanks again for the invite and for those one ear more of Dom. Other folks head over Dom Brightman DOT COM and give them a free gift. twenty-one lessons learned from two plus years of podcasting free book for anyone who wants to. Start manager wreck even continued to run their podcast and even check out the going North podcast itself. Three hundred episodes in different author is interviewed in an episode goes up every Monday and Thursday. So be on the lookout for that too and subscribe to the show and I'm sure Markeith is going to be up for the going North podcast in the near future and you can handle the tree joke. So it'd be able to look after that. Also I look forward to it. I love to impact casting podcasting as it pertains to. Really. Helping me to market my personal brain has been a great tool and shifted not necessarily the podcast which is kinda shifted it to being more video because that is the next. Best Marketing tool for me and reproducing video because I think VAT. If we really GONNA put ourselves out. There are really going to grow up personal brand of really GonNa sit from working the job that were frustrated at and and really don't have the value that we really WanNa have you got to learn how to market yourself. You gotTA learn how to connect with the people who want what it is. You have to offer as an expert. So podcasting video just tremendously. Love. So I appreciate you dom for being a part of the maximize your brand with Marquis Brain podcast but those of you who are listening to the podcast. Thank you for listening each and every week we are approaching pretty soon twenty-five thousand downloads of this podcast, and so I'm so excited to be reaching that number and it's because of you. That have helped me to get to that point. So I look forward to the next twenty, five, fifty, a hundred, thousand download as we move forward. Also, if you have any interest really growing your personal brand and sifting from being frustrated on your job to being excited about your entrepreneurial endeavor then you WanNa make sure that you are on my email list for my upcoming test. That are going to be helping you to be comfortable with video going to be helping you on how a lot your own podcast and going to be helping you on how to maximize and monetize your personal brands. All all you have to do is text. Personal brand all one word personal brand all one word seven, seven, two, two, that's personal brand all one word to seven seven, two, two, two, one more time personal brand all one word to seven, seven, two, two two, and you'll receive my free gift of. Brian. It's a twelve page. PDF that kind of takes you step by step on how to create a purposeful and profitable personal brand on. Live, just text personal bran, no spaces two, seven, seven, two, two, two, always I'm thankful for you listening each and every week and I asked to leave a railing a review on this episode so that we know how you liked it and also any suggestions on any upcoming interviewees or interview topics that you'd like me to cover. I'll leave you with this that life's greatest failure is to be without purpose with out direction moreover. Lies. Greatest tragedy is to be successful at the wrong assignment. I learned that from the late Dr Myles Munroe. So you definitely want to be honest I'm. On the right assignment. You can fulfill your purpose and maximize your opportunities our gray rest of the day, and we'll see you next week.

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Yunmen's Life Story - Zen Master of Blue Cliff Records

"Begin with the traditional chant and those view. Your I put you on mute so I will chant the chant and those of you who know it can chant with me at home unsurpassed. Penetrating imperfect arm Is Rarely medway even on the Andrea thousand million culpa having it to see and listen to to remember and except I vow to taste the truth of the tug Otas words so good morning everyone. I WanNa talk today a little bit about union. Then Nestor Union. Who's been the subject of most of our discussions on for the seminar? So and by the way those of you who have not been attending the seminar. If you're interested all the talks are posted on his website so if you want to hear more about master you and then. I'm going to say today you can find it there so in the first seminar this month I was telling you a little bit about humans life he ordained while still a boy and he deigned vinnie tradition. The tradition that studies and makes a punk Tillis practice of all the forms and rules of mastic life but then he had doubts and problems that could not be addressed in that tradition so he went to the Zen Master Malaysia. Zhao gave him what he needed and then sent him on to study big monitor because Malaysia was at that time was not practicing in a monastery. So he sent you to Sh- way phones monastery and he practiced wish wave on for a while and eventually the local emperor built him a monastery on Yoon Mun. And that's where he gets his name on cloud gate between the time that he was practicing with Schwager Fong Swift mugs monastery in his own monastery. He was actually Abbott for Awhile of different monastery and I wanNa tell you the story about how he came to be. Abbot of that monastery and this story is told in the commentary to K. Six of the blue cliff record. So here's this. Is the story more or less quoting from from that text? Hey Larry Amazing. So here's the story for twenty years. Lincolnshire did not appoint head monk so link. Shire's the Abbot of this monastery. He did not appoint a head monk and nobody knew why he didn't do that. But as the years went by he would say oh my head monk was just born today and then time would go by and he would say my head monk is working for his father as a farmer in the village and then couple years went by. Said Oh my head monk just got ordained and nobody would knew what he was talking about one day he said. Oh here comes the head monk so just so happened that at that time was coming. Who have been traveling was coming to the monastery to visit and he walks in the door and links. You immediately invites him into the head. Monks quarters and says. Finally you got here. So this was a time. In China. Where it was like the unraveling of the dynasty. So they were. All kinds of rebellions intrigues here and there and in those days. So this is the ninth century right everywhere. In the world in the ninth century people believed quite literally in religion and all the magic that with religion so rulers and you see this and the very earliest sutras rulers were always consulting spiritual leaders to see whether it was auspicious for them to do this or that like should I attack these guys over here. We'll I win suspicious moment so they're always doing that. So the local warlord in that area wanted to go to the monastery to consult Lynch you about whether or not it was going to be auspicious for him to go to battle but of course as we see. Lynch show is not an ordinary guy. He was kind of. He had powers right so he knew beforehand that this warlord was gonna come and consult with him so before the warlord could get there. This is the story. He sat peacefully in Zan and killed over and died. The warlord showed up and said I want to consult with Lynch in honestly official said. Oh but he just died and emperor the warlord said well was he sick or anything and they said No. He wasn't sick. He just all of a sudden died but he left this box for you so they handed the warlord the box in the warlord. Open up the box and inside the box. There was a piece of writing that said. Don't worry there's a great Buddhist sitting in the head monks room so the warlord went into the head monks room and found inman and appointed him. Abbot and that warlord became you munns great financial supporter for the rest of his life and actually was the one who had himself little but later declared emperor and built Yunlin Monastery for young ones. So that's the story about how you got to be even. There's another story that I should tell you. When he died he asked people he said. Don't burn my body when I die and don't build a stupid for me. Just leave me alone in my room. I want to be just left alone in my room so they did that when he died. They sealed is room and a longtime later. They said well. We should go in there and see what's going on. So they opened up his room and they went inside and there was union still sitting there his flesh not messed up. His eyes opened like windows to eternity and his teeth. White as pearls. They were amazed later. They put his body on the altar his body actual body on the altar where it remained right. This is in the tenth century. His body remained on the altar in that temple until the cultural revolution in the nineteen sixties. When all over China Buddhist temples were looted and defaced. And somehow we lost track of unions body. However there's actually a photograph of unions preserved remains that was taken in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight and you can actually look up and see this photo. The mummification of the bodies of Chinese China Masters was not uncommon at all. The Great Masters were often mummified in this way. And these mummified bodies were said to have regulus. Powers not unlike the bodies of saints in Medieval Europe. So all over the world you know. This was a phenomenon of great religious leaders. Why am I telling you all this? What possible good does this do you? Well it's pretty obvious that the way that we understand our practice now is not like that. We Are Twenty First Century. People and as twenty-first-century people of course we have a modern scientific and psychological outlook which we believe is far more true than the superstitions of the past. And if I were to tell you these stories as if I believed that they were literally true and I was trying to convince all of you that you should also believe that there are literally true. I think you would turn off your computers because you would think that I'd gone off the rails but actually I do believe that they were true at the time they were told and they are true now only in a very slightly different way you could say that stories like this are magical in that. We now live in an unmanageable age. But you could also look at it this way you could say that we still live in a magical age but that the form and the language that our magic now takes is just really different. Quantum Physics for example is nothing if not magical evolution. Microbiology are nothing. If not magical now when I say this I don't mean that these things are not fact based no. We have fact now that we can verify. We have mathematics. We have experimentation. We can back all of this up. And we believe in the scientific method as a way to ascertain facts and that belief is absolutely foundational to the world. We live in to argue with science in our time is dangerous. It's foolish and it's really irresponsible. Even though as we know some people do this in the belief that science and religion are incompatible or maybe more often for cynical political purposes. But the truth is that the inevitable. Nf ability of religion holds up in a scientific age as much as it does in any other age because as human beings we continue to be and will continue to be just as bothered by the question that you brought to Mougeot as he was when Muccio said to him. Why are you here? Union said I am not at ease with myself how shall I live? We still have that question and to ask such a question with our whole heart takes us beyond the objective world. We still need a deeper basis for conduct and ourselves understanding then. Our preferences are concepts of morality or some idea of social biology. We still need heart and soul in our lives. We still have a human need to ground ourselves in a reality beyond our own ideas and beyond our own knowledge to me that human need for meaning which no other creature has will always be with us as long as we're human beings worth worthy of that term. Now don't get me wrong. I'm not complaining about magic as a poet. I appreciate Magic to completely depend on it and I still think there is a place for magic in the soul so get upset when people pray to God for help or make offerings or tell you that they saw their dead ancestors or other kinds of miraculous appearances to get upset about that or do you think that this cannot be done in our time. Well it's just unnecessary but it is true that in our time the wonder are that's built into our being alive takes these wondrous and most sophisticated and beautiful forms in science is one of them. It's a beautiful thing. The John Masters of old were and maybe in some places still are magical people in the old fashioned sense sadly in the West Anyway. It looks like we don't any more. Have John Masters like this. All we have is ordinary. Chon practitioners like you and me. Who nevertheless are I hope justice serious and committed to their practice as the magical masters in the past so it's too bad that we don't have those magical ones maybe we can miss them and we love to read stories about them but maybe it's better off almost certainly it's more appropriate. For our time. When Zucchero she died on December fourth nineteen seventy-one his body did not glow or remain pure. It behaved like the bodies of anybody who dies within some days. It was burned and the ashes of his body were buried. And as far as I've ever heard there are no. Shahida magic relics that were found in his ashes. Just little pieces of bone and dust like anyone's body and I think this is why we love Suzuki Roshii so much so studying about. It's really lucky for me that I have to give Dharma talks because it makes me study. I confess that probably if I never had to give another dime attack. I'll probably never read another word about Zen but fortunately it makes me. It makes me do it so I got into studying about. It made me think about the history of John in China. So what we call John. We call Zen started. Maybe around the eighth century so boaty Dharma the first Chinese ancestor several hundred years before that a few hundred years after buddy diamond for what we call John to develop in an actually developed. I think out of a very long debate that lasted for many centuries about the nature of meditation. What is meditation and what's It for? Of course Buddhists were thinking about that and talking about it for a long time in the earliest forms of Buddhism. Meditation was understood as a spiritual technique for the purpose of gaining insight and insight would bring about liberation. That's pretty clearly what meditation how. Meditation was seen in the earliest centuries of Buddhism. And in some traditions. This is still the way people understand it. It would bring you benefits insight or maybe calmness or unnecessary combination of both but as people were practising this and thinking about it and discussing it. They saw some disadvantages to that approach and they began to develop a discourse that wanted to understand meditation differently. That wanted to understand that a tation as being somehow not a technique but a spiritual expression beyond technique in other words. They wanted to see meditation practice as beyond that a practice. Almost they wanted to see it as a ritual in other words meditation practice. That is non dual or immediate. A kind of meditation that it was itself understood as and practice as immediate insight on a moment by moment basis rather than a means to inside. That would happen down the road. They thought that meditation could be seen as a moment. By moment demonstration or evocation or illumination of insight beyond what you could cognis more mysterious more magical than that. That's how they wanted to understand that a tation and it's out of that conversation about meditation that John Began and this is more or less how we understand. This is N. today. Eventually in China School of Buddhism. That saw meditation that way became known as the school and eventually all Buddhism in China collapsed into the school so by the time the again went to China there was no Chon as a school of Buddhism. John was Buddhism. Chinese Buddhism was John. Buddhism and Meditation was universally understood in China in that way so that was original. John Very devoted to this kind of meditation and it took a few hundred years later before we now think of as in developed the dialogue the encounter dialogues. Like the ones. We've been talking about in. The Blue Cliff record began not for a few centuries. Let not till the few centuries later and this was a style in a way of presenting the teachings that was really different from anything that had gone before including early. John and it was characteristically Chinese and as time went on it developed into a literature which had its own development. The stories as I was pointing out and a few of my talks. The stories became elaborated stylized. They could be counted on to have humor personality. And very little piety very little reference to details Buddhist doctrine and eventually they became so stylized that they became quite scholastic and people started to complain about them but the stories themselves in the style grew drew grew out of a feeling that Buddhism had become too elaborate and to Ernest and too complicated to really be transformative for people's lives. The feeling was we need a way to be able to access the essence of the teaching the acupressure point of the teaching. We need a way to see into true. Nature and overcome clinging. That doesn't involve so much tomes of Ceuta meeting and complication. We really needed a roll up. Your sleeves tried and true way of doing this and it's out of that feeling that the John Literature arose so John Presented itself and still does today as Basic Buddhism. Essential Buddhism simple slang every day on the ground. Cutting through cutting to the chase. So I really feel this way of Zan. As a school of Buddhism I observe as an approach to all Buddhism all of Buddhism to me as part of our practice. There's nothing in Buddhism. That isn't part of our practice. It's just a method to cut to the chase and it's great for US Nowadays. Because you know we're not Buddhist professionals most of us we have other lives and other things to do and other other commitments and so we need a way that gives us a quick way of really feeling in our hearts what this teaching is all about. However I am thinking about these stories we have to admit that there's something about them. There's a little objectionable right there. A little bit aggressive. And they're like so masculine. You know these stories look like they're about you know descriptions of Dharma combats they don't feel like loving Dharma cooperations and they call this period patriarchal in for a reason even though we translate the Word Patriarch. We now always translated this and sessile rather than patriarchal because we are not living in a patriarchal age maybe we would like to live a patriarchal age. Or maybe we wouldn't but whether we want to or not we. Just don't I remember our dear? Then teacher Maureen Stewart. Who was a teacher and really prized these stories? About all these guys and they were guys and I remember her saying when it says in the story any whack them that means something very affectionate she would say that means they loved each other a lot and they were meeting each other one to one well. It's really hard to say fifty whatever it is twelve thirteen. Th centuries later how these ancient Chinese monks treated one another are viewed one another. But certainly it's hard to deny that if you translate these stories literally it does seem like there was a kind of a hard asked. Hard edged quality to their interactions. And in a way. That's something good about that. They were not sentimental. No doubt about that. They were not sentimental. They were not gushing in their emotions. They were really to the point on the other hand. There's something about the stories that we could do without so we are in the process in my Dharma talks all these years and the Dharma talks of so many other people in the West who talk about these stories. We're all together in a process of developing our own style of understanding and commenting on these stories for our time and our perspective and their values in these stories that are so important for us in our time the value of dialogue that the teaching is not being given to you by someone. It's a rising in our dialogue and in our in our interaction. That's arising out of the intimacy of are practicing together day by day side by side. It's a rising with full heart but without sentimentality. It's cutting through to the point to the essence it's direct experience. It's not about piety and all of those virtues that these stories evidence I think all of this we completely firm and really love but I think we can let go of the combat part and the roughness part. We've all been abused enough already. We don't need to be abused by Zen Masters and styles. The last week in my Dharma Talk. I gave some commentary k. Six of the blue cliff record if you if you haven't been listening. I'll just repeat. It's very brief. Here's K. Six Union said I don't ask about before the fifteen today. What about after the Fifteenth Day? And as he often did he answered himself saying every day is a good day. That's the six case of blue cliff record. I didn't say anything about what is the Fifteenth Day. Probably the Fifteenth Day refers to the monthly ritual. That was carried out in monasteries. It was a ritual of confession when monks would confess to each other their infractions subtle not so subtle of precepts and they would be forgiven and they could start all over again pure so that was what their rituals was about and we sometimes do that too when we have. Our full moon ceremony went when I was at the center. We did it every every month. And every is then we do it less frequently but we do get together and we do a ceremony of purification and then we do confess to each other how we have kept the precepts from the last month to this month and then we kind of bow to do better and start over again so it's kind of a day of purification so unions question is about purification but then purification always means awakening the only real purification awakening. Excuse me so if I have Gobi virus I didn't sneeze on news good so from an point of view when Uman says I don't ask about before the Fifteenth Fifteenth Fifteenth Day. What about after the fifteenth? He's saying I'm not asking about before awakening or after awakening and then he says everyday's a good day in other words before awakening after awakening. Is there any difference? Every day is a good day. So now I WANNA GIVE YOU SUZUKI. Roche's commentary to this case and I'm GONNA quote at length from Suzuki Rochat with my own little sub commentaries. It's money you know so we've already gotten to the place where you have commentaries and sub commentaries and now we already have sub sub commentaries. Because I got in the mail yesterday. A Book of mine that I never saw before. Because I didn't write it on the mountains and River Sutra where minogue took my commentary to the mountains. You've ever sutra enrolled her own commentary on it. So we have sub sub commentary. But anyway I'm GonNa give you now. This is Komo. She's commentary in my sub commentary. How far can this go right? Sub Sub sub sub. That's what gave rise to descend school too. Many some commentaries. Anyway here's urology. Each existence. Animate inanimate is changing during every moment day and night and this change is like flowing water which does not ever come back and which reveals its true nature in its eternal travel water flowing and clouds. Drifting are similar to a well-trained old zen master. The true nature of water and clouds is like the determined single-minded traveling monks who did not take off their traveling sandals even under the roof of sages worldly pleasure philosophical pursuit or whimsical ideas do not interest traveling monk sincere to his true nature for he does not want to be fat and idle. Such a monk does not care for hospitality which would stop his travels. He recognizes as true friends. Only those who travel with him on the way so you probably know that the word for monk in Japanese UNSUI literally means clouds and water clouds drift in water flows and the archetype of azan practitioner is a monk so for us. We're all monks. What is the essence of a monk? After all what is it that we're about well if it's not about worldly pleasure or philosophical pursuit of the truth as he says then what is it about? It seems that the traveler keeps on traveling. And there's no end to the journey. The clouds will always drift. The water will always flow. And the truth that we're after cannot be found and the happiness we seek therefore is not some kind of satisfaction. Now this doesn't mean we're against philosophical pursuits or intellectual understanding or worldly pleasures or happiness or satisfaction. It's just that we understand that what we are after will never be satisfied by those things. I think a lot of life's disappointments. Come that way. We thought this is what we are after. We got it and it didn't work. We know that that's not what we're after. We are after something beyond all that what who knows and yes. We deeply appreciate as he says. Our fellow travelers on this strange impossible journey song relationships are so precious to us. They are on the one hand just like any other human relationship and on the other saw much more mysterious and uniquely close next line. He says the idea of this kind of travel may make you feel lonely and helpless. I think that's right in the ordinary world. Loneliness Helplessness. Our feeling that we want to avoid. Nobody wants to feel lonely or out bliss but for the traveling monk. These are good feelings because they're very true to our humanity. We are actually all of us lonely and helpless and it's true in the wonderful condition secure again in Japan then is understood by the words. Wabi Sabi these words are nouns. But today they are used mostly as adjectives wabi she sabanci and one meaning of these. Words is lonesome and monotonous. Monotonous is another great word to describe our practice. Nothing about our practice is fancy or special. We do the same thing day after day after day. That's why I love Gertrude. Stein she really saw the power. Repetition REPETITION is the sole religious practice. No exciting steps. No stages no ladders to climb no big festivals and proclamations and graduations from Wurley point of view. This is terrible you know. We need and crave variety and innovation all the time but in Zan practice we do not worry about variety and innovation because variety innovation are just modulations on the surface. Life in fact is monotonous. And that's what makes it so profound and so eternal after all this pattern dawn morning noon evening night breakfast lunch dinner breakfast lunch dinner spring summer fall winter day after day after day after day year after year after year after year. That is the attorney. And the depth of our life Suzuki Roshii the intellectuals understand these words to mean the simplest and most humble form of style a beauty in the strict sense Wabi Sabi means reality which does not belong to any category of subjectivity or objectivity simpler fancy however it is this reality that makes subjective and object of observation possible and perfect and that means everything simpler. Fancy is able to come home to the heart well. This is the crux. Isn't it with our lonesome? Monotonous simple unadorned repetitive. Practice things will come home to the heart and this is what our practices about wholehearted living full blooded. Living fully appreciate fully appreciating every moment whether we like it or not whether we think it's spectacular not it is always spectacular because it always goes straight to the heart. We can appreciate everything no matter what. It is good or bad every day. A good day then. Oh she says in the realm of lobby are Sabi. Even on one drop of do you will see the whole universe so we are very lucky in these days of sheltering in place to have this kind of teaching. All you have to do is look out the window of your house where you will see the same thing every day but never the same thing one moment to the next and looking out the window of your house you will see the whole universe. You don't need to go anywhere to see the whole universe now. It's great to go to different places. Things appear different in different places. But you don't need to go anywhere to see the whole universe these days among other things. I've been writing series of poems where I'm just writing about what I see outside the same window every single day. It's a whole series of poems that fill a little notebook. Here's the one I wrote yesterday. Shadow paints dark on slope where yellow grasp patch made dark there many assumption in perception many little tricks such sincere rock not fooling anyone lades have grass blades grass Suzuki Russia again contrary to be and Sabi usually when some object is put into the range of perception our first reaction is not acceptance but rather rationality repulsion or emotional disturbance in. This is literally true enact a perception or thought is an act of discrimination. We see this is not that. That's how you know it's this and we can compare this to that. We can compare this to other instances of this. We can think if we like it. Maybe we could improve it a little bit or we can wonder what does it mean is an important to us and it's et Cetera et Cetera. Every act of perception brings us with Zucchero. She then says the way. Western civilization is not directed at accepted so much as at how to organize many objects and ideas in the realm of perception or thinking and how to control the sense data of the sensual world. So not many people know Suzuki. Russia was actually a pretty well educated person and well educated in the ways of the West. He learned about Western thought and he was quite aware of the trends of Western. Thought in here is really referring to that. The Western tradition which early on philosophically separates mind from matter and sees matter as that. Which mind is to be manipulating? And to improving and changing mind is a force that is dominant over matter and shapes matter. That's very early in Western thought. And then Suzuki row she says but in the world of Wabi Sabi. There is no attempt. No attainment no anger no joy no sorrow or anyways of mine of this kind whatsoever so you saying that in Asian thought. There is a tradition of profoundly accepting objects perception seeing beyond discrimination to unity without any effort to control or understand now. Of course this is not to say that. Asian cultures have never tried to understand our control things or that Asian cultures and somehow superior. It's only to say that there is that ancient tradition of non control and profound acceptance. That is part of Asian culture. And that's the sukey row. She wanted to preserve. In Zen Practice. And then practice does and it's teaching preserve he then says existence in this world is the fruit of subjective self training and objective pure and direct understanding. Savor of fruits comes home to our heart and confirmation of reality takes place but a wonderful phrase right confirmation of reality confirmation of reality. Confirmation of the self is the fruit of our training in practice. So this is for US. Not Wisdom not insight not equanimity not some special feeling but just that things are confirmed in us and that things come home to the heart and we live from that feeling. He says we observe fallen flowers at their best by repeating this kind of direct experience. One may have come and deep understanding of life and deliverance from it like a traveling monk who has full appreciation of everything and is nonetheless completely detached from it here. I think he's referring to Zan. Which is the maybe the easiest and purist way to have direct experience of our life and if we have together in each one of us on our own culture of repeating this direct experience training in this direct experience day after day after day after day. Of course it influences US. We will have whether we intended whether think about it. We will have a common understanding of life and we will be delivered from it. We will not be any more subject to the pain and confusion of our lives in the way that we were before we will be able to fully appreciate everything you're saying we will be able to deeply take things in and not become stabilized by them. We know what to expect the unexpected passing away of every moment. So we can remain steadfast thence Karoshi repeats the case as I repeated it before I won't do it again and then he has a one line comment. Two lines to this saying of you in one's every day is a good day. Here's what he says. Today does not become yesterday. Duggan's Angie says that today does not become tomorrow. Each day is its own past and future and has its own absolute value. So that was a talk by Suzuki. Rocha that was translated by Bill Redican. Who Selflessly spent hours and hours and hours. Of his life transcribing many many security she talks. Bill transcribed in two thousand and one. It was a talk that we think was delivered in nineteen sixty two so we sit here today in the same time but in different places. Let's remember as we sit the absolute value of every moment and every place the absolute value every moment and every place. Thank you so much for listening to mytalk giving me the opportunity to think about about a master in my more time. So I'll chant the closing verse and you can all chanted home if you like. You're on mute. Beings are numberless vow to save them delusions are inexhaustible hive out to them gates are boundless. I vow to enter them put as ways unsurpassable. I thank you and now I'll go away and we'll resume our schedule as we were before thinks Elta Walking for twenty minutes of eleven forty five and enjoy the sunshine it's awesome.

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