22 Burst results for "Zeke Emanuel"
Is It Safe for Schools To Reopen?
"Zeke emanuel is the crazy brother of crazy rem. He is a doctor. You may recall. He wrote off a citizen's if he were here i would ask him if he had a problem with the policies that were put in place by cuomo and whitmer and pritzker and rudolf and all the rest of by putting covert positive patients in nursing homes. Since he had very inhumane take on senior citizens not that long ago. I wonder how old he is now mr producer because if he reaches a certain age by his own standards a drag on society but he was on the morning schmo show with willie geist which comes from jupiter island or jupiter florida which perfectly fine. Just don't be liars about it but they can't help it. So zeke manuals on there on the morning schmo show and this is how it went cut to go. Where are you on schools right now. I mean the story of new york and other places is that the ones that have been open since the fall or have phased in their opening have been incredibly healthy places. There has been incredibly low. Transmission rates isn't that sort of a case. Study that school opening has been safe and that it should happen across the country. I absolutely agree with you. Willie and i have been on this actually for months and months and months you can open school safely. The data are pretty overwhelming I have argued that we should put teachers at the top that they're essential workers That you can have kids wear masks. It's a controlled environment. You can space them off. You can have open windows and keep the ventilation going I advise a number of schools to do this. And it's been very very successful. So the data. The scientific data says open the schools. You have florida and some other states that have opened the schools. So you have real life data and yet fao. He's out there and we need to change her h hvac systems
U.S.’s failure to contain the coronavirus ‘mind blowing,’ colder months will be ‘very tough’
"Everything that's happening right. Now was warned of six months ago. Nine months ago. I i'll i'll say it now. I was on the phone with zeke emanuel back in march and rem annual back in march. Zeke had been talking to the president. I said what are you saying until it said. It's gonna be really bad mr president. It's going to be really bad. You got to get ready and as bad as it's going to be in the spring it's going to be worse in the fall. That was the warning. Donald j trump guide in march and we heard every doctor tell him the same thing every medical expert. Tell him this same thing and of course you had the press conference where donald trump assured us that this would not come back in the fall. Dr fauci said yes. It's going to come back in. The fall and healthcare systems are going to be pressed remembered all the times. Donald trump said we had the best testing of the world. We've got more testing. You see that picture of those cars lined up around dodger stadium. The best testing in the world not even close because he reviews time and time again to implement the defense production act remember. Donald trump saying one person coming in from china and then saying it was fifteen. And then saying we're gonna be fine in the fall. Will the fall is here and looking at this at the lines of people waiting to get a test. It's worse now than ever before. Just as donald trump was warned. Back in march by zeke emanuel justice warned by anthony algae on live television in a press conference. And so here. We are coming up to two hundred thousand new infections a day. Over two hundred and fifty thousand americans. Dead and that number is skyrocketing a shortage of testing our hospital system at a breaking point. This was not stupidity. This was willful negligence. And it's on donald trump and its own. Everybody that's worked for donald trump. It's on everybody inside the white house and it's on every republican that kept their mouth shut because they didn't want to insult the president. Oh yeah now. They don't want to insult the president while he's trying to actively undermine american democracy this past year they haven't wanted to upset the president because well he was lying about the coronavirus and a lot of stupid people really ignorant people believing. That's why we saw. Actually the governor of iowa mocking a mask mandate a couple of weeks before the election but after the election now suddenly a mask mandate is good science. This is willful negligence and it is. It is party politics at its worse it is. And you don't have to take zeke manuals word for it. We heard it in the presence. Own voice on those tapes from bob woodward. He said he knew how serious it was. He knew it was deadly. He called it the plague but he said he wanted to play it down. And as you point out there are press conferences we can roll out the tape where the president would get up in that white house briefing room and say it's not coming back in the fall. This is the worst of it. He'd move aside. Dr fact would say it's coming back in the fall. This is coming back in the fall so we are right where everyone told us we were going to be the differences between march and now eight months. We haven't done anything to stop what's happening right now. The judgement of history is going to be incredibly harsh as bad as it feels right now when we have some space for this everyone can look back on it. Hopefully we get through this rather than later. The fact that our federal government led by president trump stepped aside and let this virus burn through the country. It's unforgivable and it's happening right now and if you hear the urgency in the at briefing yesterday you hear the urgency from the cdc here the urgency from the doctors who come on our show. Dr oester home yesterday. Said this is the most serious public health a moment we've had in this country right now since one thousand nine hundred eighteen and we did start acting like it
Inside Biden's COVID-19 Team
"A big part of what's lean gander is doing this week is being a spokesperson. Getting the biden. Message out about what they need and what they plan to do. The president-elect as talked about appealing to governors to try to enforce mask mandates it. Do you think those would make a difference because there are places like new york. Where you and i both live where those are in place and yet we've got big outbreaks in different communities. Well i think the key is that one how enforceable is a mandate to who is issuing the mandate. Is it somebody that these communities respect. Believe trust and i think that makes a national mandate both enforcement issues as well as the trust shoes very challenging. I do think you know a mandate coming from a governor. For example governor of south dakota that would be taken very differently would be received very differently by people in south dakota. Then if the president were issuing that same mandate should we have a national testing plan or has the boat sailed on that already so the current administration has actively discouraged. Testing has said oh. We're testing too much. That is definitely not what you're going to hear under the new administration if anything you're going to see a massive ramping up of testing and really trying especially in communities of color that have been really hard hit to make sure we have much better equity in access. But who's who's responsible for that. Is that this sort of patchwork we've got now of some state some cities. Some urgent cares or is it the federal government saying okay. We're doing widespread testing. Yeah this is the place where you're going to see. The federal government really stepping in one of the places where they could have a real impact is invoking the defense production act that would mean the federal government could compel manufacturers to crank up production. President trump has done this to a limited degree but the biden team wants to use the law. More broadly both with respect to personal protective equipment as well as scaling up production of test kits. So i i really do think we need a national plan here and that will include testing Not just people who have symptoms but people who have no symptoms expanding testing and encouraging mask. Mandates are things president-elect biden could do once. He takes office in january. That's two months from now. Normally an incoming administration would be getting information from the outgoing one. But selene says that's not happening. How much does president. Trump's refusal to concede and this sort of official transition being stuck in limbo. How much does that get in your way. Well that's a huge problem. We know historically that transitions are real period of vulnerability for the country in terms of national security. And that's whether that's a a foreign threat a terrorist threat or a threat like the corona virus and so that really could very well translate into americans dying unnecessarily to give you some examples of the kind of information we want and we can't get company gloves. do we have. How many syringes. Where are we in negotiating contracts with pharmaceutical companies with the logistics of delivery. Where are we in terms of developing databases to track who's gotten vaccinated who needs to be vaccinated. I mean those are things that are in a wait and boring nuts and bolts kind of stuff. But that's the stuff that you need to be able to plan a big response like this in terms of scaling affects nations even if the to really promising looking ones pfizer moderna if they are skilled up distribution. Is this huge challenge. How are you all thinking about vaccine distribution and getting it into the communities that that need it most so why you have to scale up. The this is where really moving forward with. The transition is really going to be important because we need to have a better understanding. What's happening on the inside with the pharmaceutical company capacity. And then once you've manufactured these doses how how do you distribute them in wear and some of that will depend on the characteristics of the vaccines. So you know the the pfizer vaccine needs to be deep-frozen minus seventy celsius. Well most family doctors. I don't know that any family doctors have the capacity to store a vaccine at that temperature. a lot of community hospitals will not have that kind of capacity either. And so what you're really looking at is having probably big academic hospital centers major health systems. Maybe pharmaceutical retail chains having central depots. Where they can do that kind of storage. But that means it's going to be harder to deliver that vaccine in particular to rural areas. So my guess is you're going to see the pfizer vaccine really targeted to urban areas. That have the capacity to deal with what we call that cold chain of freezing whereas the modern vaccine which is Which has less stringent temperature requirements in his relatively stable for a month at higher temperatures. You're going to see them journal. Vaccine probably prioritized for rural areas. And as you know a couple other vaccines emerged from the pipeline. You'll see further and further sort of targeting based on how easy it is to get those vaccines to those parts of the country. How effective those particular vaccines are for. Certain patient populations you know he might have pfizer here new york city and you might have maduna in rural wyoming listening to you. Describe the kind of logistics around that. I keep thinking about communities that have been particularly hard hit when we are talking about black and brown communities indigenous communities Ease there. I guess a painful chance that given the kind of medical infrastructure that some of these vaccines require that they're going to be doubly hit in the vaccine rollout process. Yeah this is something that we're really attentive to an it is a tricky one because there are issues a vaccine skepticism and hesitancy in some of these communities for good reason. And if you say we're going to prioritize communities of color for vaccination there will be a contingent of people who will say. Oh so we're going to be guinea pigs for this new vaccine so you have to address those very real concerns even while you are trying to prioritize because the fact is these are communities whether it's the navajo in the southwest or the south bronx here in new york city is their communities have been hit really hard and continue even now to be. Hit harder So we really do need to prioritize them if we're going to maximize the impact of the vaccines. We've been talking about trust. And i have to ask you about one of your colleagues on the advisory board Zeke emanuel who quite famously wrote an essay. saying he'd like to die at seventy five and that made a lot of people in the disability community really angry. How do you get their trust. I noticed the president-elect mentioned them specifically in his speech how do you their trust with him as a part of this group. Well i don't really want to speak to to zeke in particular but in terms of the disability community ron clean and i actually co hosted a podcast together. He had to step away for biden campaign. Were going to be the chief of staff. He's going to be the chief of staff for for President-elect biden and ron and i interviewed early on during the pandemic rebecca coakley. Who's with the center for american progress. Who is a disability rights. Activist really did listen to her concerns. Were really very much attentive to the needs of that community as well so we are taking notes. We are reaching out to people from the disability community to better understand what policies they need.
"zeke emanuel" Discussed on KHVH 830AM
"You probably know there, not your friend. I found this out. Remember when we read Fox News on DA We were going over the Obama care and all of sudden air peace suddenly started to come up everywhere like you. And they were part of Obamacare and Obama care was selling out. The complete lives system from Zeke Emanuel that that death panel thing didn't come from nowhere. It came from Zeke Emanuel. That when you have, you know, limited resource is this is who gets. Um babies don't get thumb under nine. You get very little. Up until about 20 You get some 20 to 40 You get lots 40 to 60. You get some 60, plus Good luck, Grandpa. That's the complete live system. By the way, Zeke Emanuel has just been appointed to the to the Cove ID. A board of advisers for Joe Biden. And there's nothing I love more than a guy who says Grandma and Grandpa, get nothing. I know what I'm saying. You know that there's no reason quoting him no reason to live past Ah 75. Somebody should tell him the guy who just hired him at 77 understand anyway. Air P out of there. Have you heard of a Mack, the Association of a tour American citizens, not only an alternative to AARP The best alternative. It's great to be a member of a Mac comes with the amazing benefits, but it gives you the opportunity to get involved in the grassroots advocacy at the highest level, and I'm telling you now. We are going to need to be involved in everything we can be. So we can stand. We we have to gather in groups. There is power in numbers and power in the truth. It's why I named the blaze the blaze. The blaze is a it will either destroy or it will purify. The truth is purified stand in the fire.
"zeke emanuel" Discussed on 600 WREC
"P. You probably know there, not your friend. I found this out. Remember when we ran Fox News on DA We were going over the Obama care and all of sudden, air P suddenly started to come up everywhere like you. And they were part of Obamacare and Obama care was selling out. It was the complete lives system from Zeke Emanuel that that death panel thing didn't come from nowhere. It came from Zeke Emanuel. That when you have, you know, Limited resource is this is who gets him. Babies don't get, um under nine. You get very little Up until about 20 You get some 20 to 40 You get lots 40 to 60. You get some 60, plus Good luck, Grandpa. That's the complete live system. By the way, Zeke Emanuel has just been appointed to the to the Cove ID. A board of advisers for Joe Biden. And there's nothing I love more than a guy who says Grandma and Grandpa get nothing. You know what I'm saying? You know that there's no reason quoting him no reason to live. Passed. Ahh 75. Somebody should tell him the guy who just hired him. It's 77 understand. Anyway. Air P out of there. Have you heard of a Mack, the Association of a tour American citizens, not only an alternative to AARP The best alternative. It's great to be a member of a Mac comes with the amazing benefits, but it gives you the opportunity to get involved in the grassroots advocacy at the highest level, and I'm telling you now. We are going to need to be involved in everything we can be. So we can stand. We we have to gather in groups. There is power in numbers and power in the truth. It's why I named the blaze the blaze. The blaze is a it will either destroy or it will purify. The truth is purified stand in the fire.
BlackRocks Larry Fink; Johnson & Johnsons Vaccine Study
"Johnson and Johnson is temporarily paused. It's cove nineteen vaccine clinical trials due to an unexplained illness in a study participant the development first reported by stat news notes that the study is not under a clinical hold that's the more serious hold and it's not immediately apparent whether the volunteer received the actual treatment. Or a placebo. That would be key difference J. J. says adverse events. Events like illnesses aren't expected part of clinical studies but if they do find out, yeah, it was the placebo. Well then. It goes without saying. Apparently. It's not always immediately available for that but I read through that a lot because it it seems to me like you'd be able to figure out pretty quickly it to shutting down your entire thing if this was somebody who got the placebo. That's why it's called the blind, a double blind study or whatever you want people knowing who? Didn't. I guess somebody knows I hope so or else you get. Jeez. Yeah. Wow maybe. Striking, about this, this is now the second one of these that we've had AstraZeneca's you know put a hold of briefly internationally on their efforts but by the way that effort I believe is not ongoing right now in the United States. So if for example, there was a hold on the Astra Zeneca project in the United States and they separate hold now on the Johnson and Johnson one minute. It's not this is not a whole. Holistic. Pause. Right. A pause, but there was a I the point I was trying to make was there was a pause if you WANNA use the word pause and hold I know there now there's a distinction between the two, but there was also a pause on the Astra Zeneca program in the United States if they're also pause on the Johnson and Johnson Program in the United. States then you're then you're now down to Pfizer and Madonna as the most promising. The only other two that are even ongoing when you think about the time line for when these things become available, it could become more challenged. I I would. I would wait until. You know. That's not like you to find the negative part of it, but I mean I. Came back. It's not I hadn't realized I. Don't know if you want. I not. Not a spinal thing like the other one I understand that. Thousands of people in all these trials and you're talking about two cases that you don't even know we're going to result in Holt. So it made push it out to ask what if the dates maybe bad possibly, what possible what have you imagined that would have you imagined that the Astra Zeneca program would be running everywhere else in the in the world except the United States right now I I haven't thought realized that tried to mad and haven't tried Ed Needs is this means it's going to be the Astra Zeneca program to become available here at the United States in any kind of similar time. That's the point. For more on the news from Johnson and Johnson. Let's bring in Dr Zeke Emanuel. He of course, the former White House health policy advisor under President Obama he's now vice provost of global initiatives at the university, of Pennsylvania, and he's currently an informal adviser to the Joe Biden campaign and the Covid nineteen and Vaccine Recommendations. By the way he just co authored a research letter for the Journal of the American Medical Association comparing us, covert fatalities to those of some larger OECD countries to talk about that in just a moment. But Dr Manual let's start with this news from J. and J. Does this concern you? Well, any time? There's a serious adverse event it has to concern you but I think as. J. F. O. explained. You know you have to let the process evolve you have to actually examine carefully what the? Situation is the adverse event is related to the vaccine or placebo. Related to something else a pre existing condition, and so those are exactly the kind of questions at. Researchers will look at and try to uncover in the next few hours. And then we'll find out more. If it's in the you know arm with of the vaccine it does raise serious questions because you only have a few thousand people in the study like this one adverse event is serious especially when you're considering a vaccine that you're going to roll out to tens, hundreds of millions of people maybe even billions of people. So you know. That's the that's the ultimate concern, and this is actually standard process. For every research study you get a serious adverse event, you investigate it, it happens all the time. It's just the world's not always watching. So closely to see what the developers are excited worth pointing out that the the CFO of Johnson and Johnson also pointed out, they don't know any of these answers because they have turned it all over to independent investigators, and that is what kind of beefs up the credibility issues around those. The CFO himself has no idea even though this was thirty six hours ago whether this was in a placebo patients someone who actually received the vaccine will continue. That they've been carefully collaborating with the NIH on this trial and you know that I also think should give the American public. Some reassurance at this is going to be done thoroughly and to the highest scientific standards might detrimental. Let's talk about that paper that you wrote. You found that the United States did have higher death rates from Cova. I think the big question is was that something that was taking place very early on in the pandemic and that has improved since then and what have you found? Tell us a little bit about your study. So what we did is to take the United States mortality from it. Compare it to eighteen. Countries a high income countries like Japan and Australia Canada and Jeremy and also the countries that were hit very hard at the start Italy Spain, France and other. European countries. And we looked at the whole period and compared to most countries We actually the United States has done poorly even if you include the early phase but if you exclude the early phase March and April when every many countries were overwhelmed especially places like Italy and Spain. And you exclude them and then look say may after countries have experienced, got their arms around how to manage this of virus. I turns out the United States at extraordinarily bad even compared to places like Italy a we had from. May Tenth. To today roughly ninety thousand more deaths and we should have had we followed Italy scores ninety thousand Americans who died needlessly. As I have pointed out before Italy didn't have anything special or different in terms of Treatment Vaccines Diagnostics compared to the United States, what they have is better public health. Implementation of the public health measures, and that actually is a could could have saved tens of thousands of lives in the United States. and. We can see that when we compare our experience to those of other countries. What are you talking about in terms of reactions? You mean people wearing masks, you mean contact tracing do you mean testing that's put out? How much this you think falls on the healthcare system. As a fault and how much of it rely falls on public policy reaction to it. How much falls on just citizens following the rules well. It's all of it, but it's mainly the public health response in public policy. It really is implementing those public health measures, countrywide with fidelity. And then slowly reopening. So you do have to have social distancing you do have to have a trying not to go indoors. You do have to have having crowds less than twenty. You do have to have wearing face masks doing hand hygiene and focusing your testing and contact tracing capacity first of all, building it up, which we never did successfully in this country, and then focusing it on hot spots because we know this virus breaks out. A super spreading events it's not the usual person to person to person you know eighty to ninety percent of people will not pass this to anyone. Ten percent to twenty percent of people 'cause eighty percent of the infection. So you have to be able to identify them and quickly suppressed that we never built up that capacity the federal government under president trump punted it to the states and then states did very different. Things had Florida right now as rapidly opened up restaurants and many other things and a lot of us are expecting super spreading situations in Florida. We've seen. Places that kind of ignored? This up and down the Midwest saying Oh it's not here. Now having very high rates of cases we've had thirty one states that are going up and not down which is a very worrisome situation going into the fall and we're going to move inside. It's going to much easier to pass this virus along. And a lot of us are seriously worried about the consequences hazy I'm trying to do whether that was apples to apple. So when in May in the United. States. We got we got a later start right in Europe and by May they're already seeing. Progress over in Europe did you adjust I'm not sure whether you adjusted for that because we were right at the height. Close to it in May still and and they were on the downside in. Europe is. Standardized that in a way or wrong on that or or because we were going to have a lot more. A lot more deaths in in May than they would because they they were they got it a lot earlier there. Then I have a follow up question to. That is a super sophisticated question and you're one hundred percent, right we started a week or two later than European countries like Italy France But if you make that adjustment, it makes a slight difference not. Difference Yeah. So it's not it's not. Our peak was in May and their peak was in the end of March early April. In fact, our peak was earlier in April. and. By, by May tenth, we should have gotten our arms around and then also in our paper, we look at June seven and subsequently, and even if you look at June seven, we have tens of thousands of more debts that other countries like again the Netherlands France Spain. Italy. So we've done poorly, and by the way our data collection goes through mid September. So we've done poorly even with the August blip because of the. Spring summer vacations in many European countries where we know people like Silvio Berlusconi in Italy partied and ignored all the recommendations and got cove it So we have done badly even after even if you include the fact that we got this about a week or two later compared to other countries that was a very good question typically on the high level statisticians or clinical researchers ask that kind of. I don't with. Feeling so good about myself. All of a sudden the problems we've had here the number of cases the number of that's a number of hospitalizations was not inevitable. It was a result of bad public health measures being implemented or not implemented as the case may be and you can see this repeatedly states seeming seeming to learn nothing like Florida rushing to open up restaurants bars when we should be slowly slowly be opening. Detrimental very quickly. It I guess we do have time for one more question how how much of an impact do you think a Americans healthiness versus other countries have how do we rate just in terms of underlying co morbidity is that might be there well, it's a mixed bag for one thing our population skews younger than most European countries, they have a much older population more people over sixty five. And we know that older people tend to die from this disease unfortunately we have more co morbidity in terms of diabetes in terms of obesity, but they have more Komo British in terms of lung problems because they have higher smoking rates in the United States Net Nan. It probably comes out in the wash but we're going to have to do some more. Rigorous Studies of the CO morbidity situation and the age distribution of the population. But I don't think it's GonNa be tens of thousands of deaths. It might be a few thousand maybe even ten thousand but the overwhelming response effect that about half of our deaths or unnecessary that's not gonNA come out because of small differences in co morbidity between our countries and their country. Zeke thank you very much for your time. It's really great talking to you. Thank you very sophisticated questions this morning.
"zeke emanuel" Discussed on In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt
"To zero in on with Zeke today is what's going to happen in the next twelve months when we go backwards a little bit but then really hone in on what he sees at a much. Lower level of detail. How will a vaccine work? How will be distributed very specifically if there's a Biden administration. How he sees these things playing out panning out So I think it's it's really very much the promise of in the bubble in the center of the Bullseye trying to give you the information you need from the people who are very much in the middle of this and have a Lotta odds economic quite a ways and I hope you'll enjoy it I think you will. He's a fine person to talk to very interesting to let's call.
"zeke emanuel" Discussed on Pro Rata
"If it is somehow done a low-priced, we can all afford it way. So most pharmaceutical companies are planning not to make any profit on this. They're doing this as a goodwill gesture, and for the prestige of winning the. The race. They're not gonNA. Sell it, and it is going to be affordable to everyone and we're going to figure out how to get everyone the vaccine I. Don't have any doubt about that and are I. Think partly doing this at cost because they do want to burnish their image as not rapacious and as good guys and good citizens coming to the aid of the country, but that doesn't solve the other problem which is, let's be honest. The US has about four four and a half percent of the world's population, but we. We spend about forty to forty five percent of all the money for all the drugs in the world were almost half a trillion dollars a year going just for drugs in this country, and almost everyone agrees it's too high. That leads me to my final question. The name of your new book is which country has the world's best healthcare with a question mark at the end from the way you just said it. I'm going to guess that the United. States is not the answer to that question. We were just talking about drugs. Drugs we were talking about the whole healthcare, so Dan you fair enough. I will say the. US Isn't in the top ten. In terms of healthcare systems on the other hand, it's not the worst healthcare system I think actually China is worse than the United States. If you come to drug prices, there are many places in the world that have much much better. Drug prices, not many places. Every country has better drug prices than the United States. If you want places with really low drug prices, you might look to places like A. Taiwan Norway and we describe in our book why they have much better pricing than we do, and we get suggestions about if we'RE GONNA regulate drug prices how we can do it in a very intelligent way, doctors manual. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you. This has been great..
"zeke emanuel" Discussed on Pro Rata
"We're joined now by Dr Zeke Emanuel, a former Obama administration health policy official, who currently is chair of the department on Medical Ethics and health policy at U. Penn Dr Manual tweet to start big picture. has there ever been a similar historic analogy for what we're currently seeing in terms of this race for a vaccine in terms of Kinda, degree of demand and the global degree of demand, not that I can recall for vaccines, maybe polio vaccine in. In the nineteen fifties, this kind of race, although that was heavily done in the United States, but the only similar kind of racist may be the Manhattan project the Human Genome Project, but this is unique in the vaccine world and the speed is also unique in the vaccine world. We got the genome from this virus not six months ago and you already have human trials. Going on that literally is warp. Speed the warp speed piece of it. It does it worry you at all that there could be some safety steps that not skipped, but get glossed over a little bit. WHAT WORRIES ME IS! We are going to rush, and are we going to get all the safety data especially when you're rushing, you can't get long term safety data, and so I do think that's a concern. We're GONNA have to monitor very carefully. We will get very good short term safety data, and that's probably the. The most important that we need the greatest accede developer of all time. Maurice Hayek said that he rested easy, only after three million people got his vaccines from the safety concerns one of the things I'm curious about here. Is this question of if we get a vaccine whether it comes from Deir Cure, or whoever comes out with it? Who's going to get it? Who's going to get it? I one of the pieces of this? Is that governments. Governments, US government is obviously helping fund Maderna's the German government just bought a piece of Cure Vac, an actual equity stake in it. Does it stand to reason that whichever company comes out with it? First country, the funded it. That's where it's going I be deployed. Yes, I think that is a safe assumption. We should make clear that not every company is taking money from government Pfizer for example is fully funding its development all on its own, but. But Johnson and Johnson Astra Zeneca Madonna mentioned Oviedo. These companies have all taken BHARATA funds from the United States government, so we can assume that a country is going to try to control of axiom that developed in its country and give it to its citizens. I there's a question is alright. Say Johnson Johnson claims that it'll have a billion doses by the time if it's vaccine, prove successful because it's actually manufacturing at risk that is before the. The final results. The same is true of Astra Zeneca, and all these companies, so maybe they give it to the US, I three, hundred, thirty, million that sills leaves you. Six hundred seventy million doses to distribute to the world, and a big question is who gets it in the world. And how do we distribute it? Even in this country? We're not going to have all three hundred thirty million doses available immediately, so the question is who gets it. It first. And how do you think that gets resolved? These? Let's just imagine that it is J. J. or another US based company and they're able to dose America not. Park gets done I. Is it highest bidder? Is it strategic allies from geopolitical stempler? How do you game it out?.
Many Day Camps Are Choosing To Reopen, But Should Your Child Attend?
"Stays the day if all goes as planned we're gonna sneak into the opposite him and get the Intel we what's gonna happen to summer camp this is a video from camp would you walk in in Nashville Tennessee in it camp director Jeff marriage explains how things are gonna change now we sanitize we looking at our the other thing is going to be super but the most important thing here is that camp which you walk in is going to open marriage told me they are following state local guidance taking all necessary precautions and moving ahead that is not the case everywhere around the country many camps have decided to close all together and summer just in a holding pattern as they count covert cases in their state and try to figure out how to keep kids safe they're also pushing up against a lot of demand from families because we should just point out here we're not talking about sleepaway camps that are more like a week long vacation these are day camps that double as critical childcare for working parents I talked with Dr Zeke Emanuel about this he's a bioethicist and vice provost at the university of Pennsylvania in a recent op ed for the Atlantic Dr Emmanuel said many working parents can't get back to full productivity without camp and kids desperately need a break we separated children from their peers we restricted their activities out of doors and we're about to face summer with the kids totally out of school isolated from their friends this is not a good recipe for children we've also upset the parents live in terms of me being able to focus on work and I think having some distance during the day reestablishes a good relationship with people are you saying that the harm being done to them because of social distancing and isolation outweighs the risks of contracting the virus I think that there is a big harm almost all the data talks about the importance of socialization interacting with other kids negotiating playing setting rules those are important things for child development on the risk side transmission among kids is relatively low we know that there are harms are lower than adults they're not zero and I don't want anyone to say oh there's no problem with kids there are problems with kids but they're relatively low certainly relative to compare to other risks that kids out of unintentional injury and I think given that relative lotus it's worth taking some of the risks for some children for the benefits for tens of millions of children so many Americans have made real sacrifices to limit their exposure to other people over the last few months the sending your kid to summer camp though would exponentially increase a family's exposure to the virus would yes it is an increase I don't think it's exponential I think it's inevitable children are going to get covert nineteen if we open summer camp inevitable for some parents they will perceive the rest to be too high but for the vast majority the risks are acceptable given the other respect children's live with remember chill a child's life is not risk free and it shouldn't be risk free so I think that's about a global pandemic and protect your kids from a virus is different than you know dying in a car accident really I'm not sure falling out of a canoe or something that would transpire at summer camp yeah falling out of a canoe learning to cooperate around wearing face masks washing hands learning to deal with adversity is very important for children what kind of guidance have camps are state officials had from the federal government about how they should be weighing these decisions yeah disappointing is the answer to that I think that the guidance coming out of the CDC has been less than great it also would help if we had much more available and easy to use testing in this country do you think that's a prerequisite for camps to be able to test each and every camper before the start of the day I would say that it would be ideal and it would be very good I don't think in and of itself it's a go no go element it's not easy I didn't say it was easy and I think an article we say there are logistical and financial considerations but this is a high priority for the country as a whole to do this for our children who need structure in their summertime doctors you can manually appreciate your time thank you thank you Rachel but in the end it really is all up to parents because let's say the camp you send your kids to in the summer is going to open well then what then it's on you to the side of the benefit outweighs the potential
"zeke emanuel" Discussed on Today, Explained
"Did you ever think you see a pandemic like this in your lifetime? In this country I was two minds so I began teaching at the University of Pennsylvania and I used to teach a course call rationing and resource allocation where the rationing part was all about pandemic planning. And how you would distribute all these goods like a vaccine an ICU. Bed and ventilators. And so I've been thinking about this and my students have been learning about this and I. There's a line in that course in my slides show all the influenza pandemics in the twentieth century. One thousand nine hundred thousand nine hundred fifty seven nine hundred sixty eight and I had a line that I would say you know. We're overdue for a pandemic in this country. We've gone fifty years without a one of these. We're going to have one and you know we had a near Miss in two thousand and nine with h one n one. I'm worried so I'd always been thinking about it and always knew that there is a remote possibility but if we have this remote possibility. The consequences are huge. But I also was like you know like everyone else. It's a low probability event huge consequence but low probability. And I think as human beings we're kinda crappy at planning for low probability high impact events and I think we need to be better at that. It's like insurance. Don't buy insurance for a high probability of my insurance for a low probability event but high impact. Yeah we need to think about these kind of planning things like insurance. So I've been thinking about this for fifteen years. Did I actually think I'd lived through this and have a role in it now? But I mean this. Pandemic has made so painfully obvious so many dysfunctions in the United States from our social safety net government preparedness to gross inequities. It feels like an opportunity to maybe hit reset on so many things. We're doing poorly or just not doing all. Do you think we will? There are three or four things at this. Pandemic has really made clear. I think I it's made. All of us insecure the uncertainty. The insecurity is just palpable to everyone constantly. Second it's made clear that we're social beings and social life is critical to all of us not being able to be in the same studio with you doing this over the fall. It's like I WANNA be with people. Having a zoom happy hour is not happy hour right and I think people are really feeling hungry for that and the third thing is we're all limited in our experience. Yes I can be in my house and I can go out for the same ethin- walk over and over again and not being able to have new experiences is degrading substantially people's happiness. So I think the first part of your question is critical. It's security people want so I do think we're GONNA have a reset and I think we're GONNA have a reset around security our government. Our country has to give us some security. What does that security look like clearly? Health Insurance clearly family leave clearly unemployment insurance whether you're in the GIG economy or not similarly on social life when this thing is over you can forget virtual reality. What we want is reality. We Want People. We want to rub shoulders with real other people. Thanks so much. Take Care Man Watcher. Nao Guy Luvyo cowboy for this so that I can touch trying to have the life ever. Zeke Emanuel is vice provost of global initiatives at University of Pennsylvania. He's also got a new podcast making the call. It's Zeke and another bioethicist answering big questions about covert nineteen. Go subscribe for more Zeke. Wherever you're listening to this again it's making the call. I'm Sean Ramos for him. This.
"zeke emanuel" Discussed on Today, Explained
"Hey It's Swisher you may know me as the only person who looks cool wearing sunglasses indoors but in my spare time. I host a podcast called Rico Decode. Every week we talk about power change and the people you need to know around tech and beyond some of my recent guests include. Edward Snowden Megan repeal no and the cast of the l word which was a huge thrill for me. If any of these sound interesting to you listen them now on Rico. Decode subscribe to the show for free on apple podcasts or your favorite podcast APP to be the first to hear new interviews every week. He's been getting emails from listeners. And sometimes even tweet saying like. How can we support the work that you're doing that today? Explain is doing. The VOX is doing and usually. I'm just like I don't know. Share it but now there is a different way to support today explained and Vox. Vox is launching a contribution effort. Right now at vox dot com slash give. You can give money. You can contribute to help. Vox Make podcasts to make the explanatory journalism that you depend on and right now in. This crisis is more important than it's ever been so you can choose what that work is worth to you and give to support. Vox and today explained all the stuff that you love that we do go to. Vox Dot com slash. Give right now and make your contribution. Just a heads up. It's not tax deductible but thank you so much for your support to my understanding. Is that if we can't really get the social distancing piece figured out and the testing piece figured out we're never going to get to the place where we can properly implement contact tracing figuring out who's come into contact with people who have covert nineteen. Do I have that wrong? No no contacting depends upon being able to identify Kovic positive people and then look at their contacts rapidly. That's where technology really needs to. Ha- come in and then get those people tested. That is the nature of the game and in this situation because the virus travel so fast you really need to have technology augmon basically old style gumshoe contact tracing okay so if we get the extended nationwide shutdown we need and testing on a massive scale. We need and the PP are essential workers. Need none of which we have yet. How do you then trace contact unique technology to help us identify people who are collectors who interact with a lot of people in have come close to a lot of people that technology is you know facebook and Google already habit and they can probably give you a list of everyone? You've come in close contact with. And this is the thing that Google and apple say they're going to collaborate onto. Yes because you'll have it on the android. You have it on the iphone but you don't need an APP they already know and then you need to have a list for everyone who's positive be able to detect that list and S- probably send out a message that says you come in contact with someone who's covert positive that doesn't mean you're covered positive but you need a test you know that's not rocket science that's something. Google and facebook engineers could probably do over a weekend if they really wanted to and That is very very important. But of course none of us trust Google and facebook with our data and we'd be very suspicious so we need some independent public trusted organization to do it to guarantee us. It's not going to be commercialized. They're not going to keep the data on us. They're gonNA erase it so that our individual privacy is protected so a whole nother host of problems here even if we get to the point where we have the infrastructure. We have the third party. There's a good chance that Americans still won't WANNA volunteer their information to the government to Google to facebook voluntarily. Right Right Trust is a big issue here and you know there's probably half the population doesn't trust the government and half the population doesn't trust the tech companies. And so you know you have to find some other group that you know three way collaboration. Where one group that controls. The data is some group that the public will trust in rumor. Has it the president's GonNa seriously speak about contact tracing for the first time later today? I'm guessing it's because he's what just been preoccupied with trying to reopen the country. And maybe it's just that the attention has been on the testing issue both the viral testing and now the serology testing that everyone seems to be focused on the antibody. Testing are important. But they're not the only thing that they enable the contact tracing they enable isolation but you know remember the real threat here. The real threat to opening are the eysenck dramatic infected people. Because they're the people unwittingly just go and spread it around and any one of US could be that person and we need to basically focus in on that person and make sure that they isolate themselves for at least fourteen days which we can't do without dramatically ramping up testing correct which we show no signs of doing right now correct and by the way the third like the stool is to protect the particularly susceptible. Those who are older those with serious co morbidity is that we know. Give you a predilection towards getting the disease. Vascular problems diabetes obesity heart disease. Asthma does this. Keep you up at night. Well you know you got me on a day. When I'm not particularly depressed. Last week I was particularly depressed the whole week because of this because I can see a way out. I do think we have the capacity to ramp up testing. I think the pressure will grow to ramp. Change the the Guidelines under which were operating the CDC changed those guidelines. I think there are ways a solutions to the testing problem is someone GonNa have to drag the president kicking and screaming and if so who is that someone is it is it felt. She is at burkes. Is it Newsom Cuomo? Who is instantly? If I were a betting man. It's probably going to be the business community. Here's what you have to do if we're going to open up he's got all these business guys he's talking to. I think mostly guys so I think if they say listen. I'd be happy to get my people back but I need you to do something to make that a more viable and safe by the way process for me. Here's what I need. That may be the dance that we end up having and if that doesn't happen can you just remind us in Eurest Mation? Yes what this looks like. Is it a second wave to do? Even get out of the first wave. Yes we'll get out of the first way 'cause we're sort of sheltering in place in it looks like the president's backed away from the first opening. It'll be sometime in May or June for something like that. The numbers have come down substantially. Then we're going to you know we're not going to be prepared. We're going to relax the physical distancing guidelines and rules. People are going to go out. And you're going to have a second resurgence probably sometime mid July and July early August kind of thing. That will depend heavily on how much risk people are taking. I think in the last couple of weeks. I've heard more hesitation like you know forty one people who were grocery store clerks died. Maybe there's something to this and I don't want to rush out and be the first person out there going to a restaurant sitting at a table you know if the American public is hesitant and not assured that Safety precautions they might actually be very slow to restart the economy and so. I think we don't know how fast that resurgence might take place. But if we don't have the proper regime to actually tasks contact trace. I can see Americans being hesitant. I've seen enough twenty seven year old. Who aren't supposed to get sick from this thing die. Maybe I'll be a little more cautious. We'll see have you had an opportunity to speak with the president since this pandemic became Crisis I prefer not to answer that question. The answer the answer is I have spoken to him but not in the last four weeks. What what did you guys talk about? Kovic nineteen various proposals to intervene. Did you feel like you convinced him in any in any particular regard? I don't want to go into the details if you could talk to him today. Considering everything you just told me about how far behind we are on testing still how far behind are P still? What would you say? Well I? I completely agree with him that we need to reopen the economy. It's really important for all the Americans who lost their job It's important to everyone and try to explain. Why think the testing has to go up and contact tracing and how you might do that and make a big impassioned plea that the only way you're gonNA convince Americans to do. These things is if they have the assurance that they can be tested and the healthcare system will be there.
"zeke emanuel" Discussed on Today, Explained
"The only thing president trump really wants to talk about is when and how the country opens back up one day. He's got all the power to do it the next day. He's going to cooperate with governors. The deadline keeps getting punted. What's clear is he doesn't really have a plan to fight. This corona virus but Zeke Emanuel. Does he's an oncologist. A bio at the system and was a health policy advisor in the Obama Administration. The first thing I asked him was is the country even ready to open back up now. It's not ready on two accounts. First of all we have too many new cases still of covert nineteen worst while we've probably bent the curve We're still high up and you can't even think about reopening the country until you've come down the back end of that curve that'll take another four to six weeks. It's a bell shaped curve for your audience. So what goes up has to come down in exactly the same arc. So that's part one and part two is we need a kind of infrastructure that allows us to move from mitigation that is reduced the number of new cases and deal with the cases. We have to containment when a new case POPs up isolate them find other people they've been involved with and try to limit the spread of the virus So that's a really important infrastructure and we're fire from that infrastructure too. So what we really need to do is to take the time we have now and get that infrastructure ready and there's no evidence we're doing what we know is that testings had something like a hundred and fifty thousand people per day which is a slight improvement from a few weeks ago when it was a hundred thousand or so days. We've gone from doing not remotely enough to slightly more than that. We need to change substantially the who we tash not just the numbers. When I tell you how we change the WHO. You'll see that the numbers have to go up substantially so right. Now we're testing people. The top categories are all people who we suspect have covert nineteen because of symptoms Healthcare workers frontline healthcare workers because symptoms new patients because the symptoms people over sixty five because symptoms people with co morbidity like hypertension or heart disease or diabetes because of symptoms that is. We're using the test to treat people really important but bad if what you WANNA do is open. The economy and limit the spread of the virus. If you want to limit the spread you have to do a different form of testing and testing different people. You have to focus on testing frontline workers who are actually interacting with a lot of people. Everyone in the hospital grocery workers you know. Frontline responders policemen firemen people who are going to go back into the office. People are gonNA work in restaurants. Those are the people who need to be tested. Because you've got to clamp down if any one of them is positive because they're interacting with if not hundreds of other people certainly scores of other people then when you say all right if I gotta do all these frontline workers grocery workers restaurant workers. How many of them are there? And let's say I WANNA test them every week to be reasonable. Three to four million frontline healthcare workers who have contact with patients every day. Three million grocery workers. You know you're already at seven million people that's a million tests that they per week and you haven't even talked about the policemen. The firemen the people going back into the raw fish. Is it your sense that we're never going to get there that the president doesn't see that as a priority? I don't quite you know people have been asking me this question and I just can't figure out what the dilemma is. The FDA dilemma is it now that lab core and quest just have run out of reagents. They haven't done it. I just don't know what the limit is. But there's clearly a big limit out there. I also think that the federal government you know there is some way in which is abdicated. Its lead responsibility in coordinating the national effort. And I do think that we need more careful. Where all the resources are we putting them in the right places. Let's bring on more testing capacity and that needs to happen. What's your sense of the supply of personal protective equipment at this point? I mean you're talking about a massive ramping up of testing that we still haven't reached but obviously all of the medical professionals healthcare workers frontline workers grocery store workers. Emt workers are going to need a ton of PP. If they're going to be helping US facilitate all this. Do they have it yet? It depends what you mean by. Having one of the habits is are you changing your and ninety five mass between patients. The answer to that is clearly. No people have been given an n ninety five mask and this is your mask for the year kind of thing. Well that that is not a good practice I watched to. Cbs reporter in a news segment. Go into a New York hospital. And he was interviewing a nurse and she was telling. The reporter had like a mass like use. I'd like all of us. That have mass like yours and these white suits like you have look at your has met suit. Look at what I'm wearing. The reporter says what what is what is it. Looks like a garbage bag. I'm wearing trash bet. We HAVE ON GARBAGE BAGS. And you have one very fancy stuff. Yeah Yeah and I think that's part of the problem we just don't have enough or the right amount in the right places. I mean clearly. The underserved hospitals the public hospitals. They just have not had sufficient amount and we also needed in places that haven't blown up yet but are very much likely to blow up. That have sort of taken the loss you know we saw this in South Dakota with the Smithfield the pork packing plan. We're not doing shelter in place. The governor's been resistant to it. And then boom you have hundreds of cases all from one plant and other cities are going to have that too. Are you talking about? Just the states like South Dakota North Dakota Nebraska that have been made formal shelter in place policies. Are you talking about cities and states that have them in place to Steadies in states that were late to put them in place you're still on the exponential growth curve Maybe delayed a few days Than what you would have done with no shelter in place but you didn't do shelter in place in time you know. That was clearly the case in New Orleans where they let Mardi gras happen they then got on the exponential curve parts of Florida. You'RE GONNA see a lot more so you know it's going to pop up around. The country is the United States particularly disadvantage. Here because of how much autonomy the president has given the states in this situation I mean Italy was late to implement social distancing but once they did. They really clamped down. Obviously we're not doing that. Will that affect the entire country's ability to proceed people travel? And if you don't clamp down everywhere and have a national shelter place policy and have a president who is trying to persuade every governor and giving governors cover to do it. That's how you get a national policy and if you don't have a national policy and someone from you know South Dakota who happens to be positive but as synthetic goes to some place that doesn't have a high level interacts with a lot of people. You could have a another explosion and in those places and that's how it's happened. I mean that's how we got it. In the United States in the first place people who were in China came back or people who were in Europe and got it in Europe came back and just a few people spread it around and all public health. People think all right. We relaxed a physical distancing. We allow non essential businesses to open people. Go back to work. We even allow some large crowds like religious services. And you will definitely have a recrudescence of the disease.
"zeke emanuel" Discussed on Today, Explained
"It's Thursday April Sixteen Twenty Twenty Happy Birthday Dad. I'm Sean Rama's firm and this is your corona virus update from today explained. Let's spin the globe will start with the biggest planet on Earth Book. The company today said it has removed hundreds of thousands of posts featuring conspiracy theories and medical misinformation about covert nineteen people who interacted with the bad stuff or going to get notifications and links to good stuff from the World Health Organization. Check your sources people. Japan's Prime Minister Shinzo obeyed declared a nationwide state of emergency today extending one. That was already in place in the country's major cities cove nineteen is spreading there but the country has not imposed lockdowns. Like we've seen elsewhere. Despite sharing a border with China Vietnam has fewer than three hundred cove in nineteen cases in zero reported deaths according to NPR. That's because of early quarantining aggressive contact tracing and some serious consequences from one party communist state. One guy is spending nine months in jail for failing to wear a mask Russia's postponing a big military parade even though Vladimir Putin really really didn't want to. He's now saying the risks are just too high infections. Continue to rise there. The United Kingdom is extending its lockdown by at least three weeks the British government thinks the country is nearing its Kovic nineteen peak and back in the United States. We got new jobs numbers today. Five point two million people filed for unemployment last week bringing the total over the last month to about twenty two million. The Washington Post is reporting that millions of Americans who were expecting stimulus checks via direct deposit on Wednesday didn't get them due to a glitch in the irs payment Matrix. The Post says a number of parents didn't get there five hundred dollar checks dependence as well the IRS and Treasury Department. Say They are working on it. The president is scheduled to speak about reopening the country later today. That's all while the governors of several states on the east coast are extending lockdown until mid may much more on what it will take to properly and safely reopen the country in today's show and before we get to the show. You've probably heard that. New Yorkers applaud their essential workers from their windows and doors steps and stoops every night at seven tonight. A group called peace of Heart. Choir wants to dial it up a notch. Here's the idea after clap and cheer. Everyone does their best Sinatra and Belts Out New York. New York at the top of their lungs can sing along to the song tonight. At seven via W K C R eight nine. Wbai ninety nine point. Five or join in from just about anywhere on the planet at the New York sings along event page on where else facebook greatest city in the whole world thought spread in the new leave in two day. I WANNA BE PA. That New York New.
"zeke emanuel" Discussed on Coronavirus + Sports
"Joining me now is two time. World Cup Star. Two time gold medalist at the Olympics Fox sports commentator the first woman to serve as English speaking commentator in a man's World Cup in the US Allie Wagner Halley. Thank you so much for joining us. Yeah they'll be having the I've been so busy you have indeed and let's get into it for sure alley. Let's start at the beginning. What was the US women's national team doing in the run-up to the Olympics before Cova nineteen broke out in the beginning of the year? They actually haven't horrify for the Olympics yet after the World Cup among off in December but then they had the qualifying ended January and February. Then they had the. She believes cup where they're playing really high quality furniture they're playing England Japan In Spain and then we had some friends that were bucked that we obviously haven't been able to get to which was against Australia and Brazil but pretty good masters really good opponents. After yet qualifying rounds that was helping the team kind of ramp up if you well heading into the Olympics and now we're in that stall phase wherever one is Allie. How does the postponement of the Olympics? Affect the squad. It's actually fascinating question Because look no teams ever won a World Cup in gone back next year and one gold medal. We all know that and this team was really well positioned to do that. I think they were still kind of existing at that high but I don't think they're momentum will be stopped by this. There's a couple key pieces to that. One is Alex Morgan now. He has a year to get back from having a baby if she so chooses to try to make that a little bit spot so she'll provide more depth at the nine spot if in fact she can return form. So that's a bonus right. You have another player that you can pull in. That has a ton of experience as a weapon with lock getting another year to train and any year's maybe generous because we don't know how long we're going to be in these Shelter in place situations where we can't get out and train and compete so if the longer he has a manager is team. I think the better off. They're going to be able to implement his vision and I do think that he's. He's a really premier coach. That can take this team to that next level. Really get them ready to push the game forward to to be more unpredictable as they head into the Olympic so I think they can benefit from the added time but you know look around the world and look at Japan. Even though they didn't perform that wellness she believes you can see why what bap rim is trying to accomplish in. They have a lot of young players so you can look at some of the teams that are going to be in the Olympics and look at the younger wives and say they're gonNA benefit from this time to actually get these players more experience and more versed at the international game so I think Japan can benefit I do. Netherlands can benefit and England will be another one or Great Britain. Because that's how they should be on. Beck's you know with Phil they stalled after I would say the World Cup and now they have time to kind of go back to the drawing map and get some younger players brought into the fold that had been performing incredibly well and their w league but again it all comes back to what kind of time are we looking at. How long are we away from? The game with this cove. Ed So on the field we are familiar with their work. But off the field. There's the giant lawsuit against the US Soccer Federation do you think covert nineteen is affecting the momentum in regards to the legal battle. Aren't it's a really good question I would say isn't helped the situation you know. We saw the language that was in the law sues and they'd been made a massive statement in that she believes in sponsors are jumping boards saying this is unacceptable so there is a ton of like as you said momentum that was generated around this group of players the program so. I do think they lose a bit of that could I also think what is our goal at the end of the day? What is the team goal team scores to get this resolved to get the respect and and to get to a level that they feel comfortable with is almost gives a federation and amount of time to to maybe get together and come up with a resolution that works for both parties so who knows maybe the lawsuit was becomes irrelevant and becomes settled in his time and no one needs that momentum and the message has been sent? It's clear Ann Richards. Us soccer can come up with the right response. Let's shift to the NWS L. Much like MLB The League was about to prepare for the season in April. How has Cova in nineteen affected? The league were kind of goes along with your previous question. Riches Morente Games developing a ton of momentum after the World Cup getting a lot of attention because of his lawsuit these players were then going to go into the W. L. and I think a lot of is we're going to be on those those programs as teams and you're losing that so I think it's I think it's a big hit for the end of his cell. I don't think that something that's irrecoverable. You know but I do think pushing back the start avenue network they were. GonNa be honest and be on. Cbs and it was going to be a new platform for them to kind of showcase the talents in the league. So I do think that is is less than ideal but this is a this is resilient league and these have been resilient owners and they're going to have to use this time like we talked about the federation's who I better prepare themselves for. The short season looks like if it is a shortened season perhaps the benefit in his time from not having an Olympic break because we are going to happen Olympic. Break in the end of yourself season. Not GonNa have that anymore so so this is the time they can perhaps capitalize on some of that generated momentum from the World Cup nudity throughout the year. So this is something that we should be able to navigate. The other part of it is not. Everyone is an Alex Morgan or Meghan. Where Pino what happens alley to those players who are perhaps in the lower part of the player pool who rely on the income from their respective clubs. What happens to them? And how will they be affected? Really good questions you has i. I don't know what the Hell is doing n in the meantime to support their players. I haven't talked to the individual clubs. Those are going to be hugged decisions but the reality is you know those players don't make much money any rose so you're used to probably making ends meet right and and I'm not saying that's good situation. I'm just saying this isn't I don't think this is going to be a entirely unfamiliar situation for some of those players and hopefully the club is going to do what they can to support those players at the bottom of the ones that need it the most as we should be doing in our communities. If you can help you do that is what is going to be. I think getting his players through and and look. I think as far as you're talking about sustainable living riches obviously the preeminent focus but I think as far as the players in terms of developing during this time. This can be a really good tool for some about you know the the NFL League is is known as elitist fast transition. It's physical you can take care of those things that the the pace your strength all of that you can train those things on your own and the beauty of it is. You can train your skill on your own. You can find a wall you know you can find a small space. You don't eat a lot and so I think the players that need to focus on their skill can actually utilize time to their advantage and perhaps in the end were not immediately. We'll see some of the players come out better for it. You know. There's not a whole lot. You can do right now but the things you can do. You can do them all just as you mentioned resiliency. Is the key finally alley. You're also commentator with Fox sports talking about the game analyzing the game a lot of exciting things. We're going to happen for you and twenty twenty from your career perspective. How has this affected your own work? And do you miss the booth things coming up with you know? I was going to do my personality game. Obviously we're going to have a game year. It seems as museum Brazil on Fox and then the start of the season was coming so there is a lot of great things on Rizon. Ed I miss it. I Miss Traveling. I hate flying but I miss traveling. I missed on having some peace and quiet but I actually am loving this time to with being home with my family. I think it's the first time that I have been so boring to my life that I am not looking forward force. Something not thinking about accomplishing something. I'm actually as most people probably are just being and doing what is in front of me and it feels really good So I'm loving that that balance resets your soul to the certain extent and I I can less on edge although my kids would probably tell you differently so I'm more presence so I love that but I will tell you. I thought I was to get back to playing the piano more. I thought I was GONNA learn more French in our studio back in the analyzing different tactics of different managers dig in along the video. I've access to having time do that. But I did go back and watched Liverpool Athletico the home and away and I loved it. If anyone is a nerd like me go look at the two different ways that Liverpool try to get up at Medico. It's amazing I was like very fascinating very cool and to watch the way of shut them down. It was Allie Wagner two time Olympic. Gold medalist two-time World Cup player more than a hundred and thirty matches for the US. Women's national team commentator analyst. Thank you so much for joining us. The need for women's soccer to maintain strength and marketability goes beyond Kobe. Nineteen and the truth is it's down to the entire soccer world to take care of its community building from a successful world. Cup is an important narrative. But she's not the only threat to hold onto overcoming. The outbreak is the number one priority. But so is making sure that the women's game is a lot of time to flourish in the calendar. Last year the women's World Cup succeeded in spite of competing against two other male tournaments Copa Manica and the Gold Cup and the summer of twenty twenty one already looks oversaturated with the Olympics and men's European championships ewing this cluster. It's vital therefore to make sure women's soccer has its own time to shine whether we have endemic or not thanks to Dr Zeke Emanuel and Allie Wagner for joining me. Today we'll continue bringing you the stories throughout the Koran avars crisis if you like what we're doing please recommend this to a friend or family member and neither rating and review on Apple podcasts. It really helps others find a show. You can listen to Corona Virus and sports for Free. Wherever you get your podcasts. And be sure to subscribe or follow us for the latest episodes. Stay safe and we'll see you next time..
"zeke emanuel" Discussed on Coronavirus + Sports
"In this show. We provide you with topics that deal with the pandemic and how it directly affects the sports world. Our guests therefore are almost always stakeholders inside this world from athletes and reporters coaches and executives their members of this community given us their point of view from their respective sports. But today we decided to bring a medical expert Doctor Zeke Emanuel who can not only tell us the effects of Corona virus but also how society ethically handles it or rather should handle it and for sports fans who are desperately waiting for a club or team to it's important to remember the issues that come with rushing to a return to action joining us. Now is Dr Zeke. Emanuel Doctor Emmanuel is an oncologist bioethicists and a vice provost of the University of Pennsylvania. He is the author and editor of Ten books including brothers. Emmanuel and reinventing American healthcare. And he's one of the key architects of the affordable care act on a special advisor to the Director General of the World Health Organization. He has a new podcast. Cold making the coal which dives into the ethical dilemmas surrounding covert nineteen doctor Emmanuel. Thank you so much joining us. Oh It's a wonderful opportunity thank you. Let's get straight into it. Dr You've recently been advocating for the federal government to adopt an eighteen month plan for life to return to normal in the United States. What's the thinking behind that timeframe? So if you think we're really going to get the normal where normal is defined as pre cove at before cove it That cannot really happen until we have a vaccine available and that is by all expert Estimations mine included eighteen months. You need time for testing and evaluation of it. You need time for production. And then you need time for distribution and so that's an eighteen month position that doesn't mean we're going to be in shelter in place for eighteen months but it does mean that normalcy as we define it before cove including things like conventions sports games in big stadiums a religious services in megachurches. And you know school's back to normal and things like that. That's eighteen months so we need to plan between now and that period and there's a lot of things that have to happen and I'm just not quite sure that We have our arms around it now. Dr Being this sports illustrated I have to bring it to sports. What role to sports play in this motto? I mean obviously it could be a simplified question but in terms of a sports fan athletes leagues. What role does sports play in this Pacific? Eighteen month model. Well for a Lotta people. Sports is the real symbol. It's our sort of the litmus test of normalcy. Can I watch my team on television? Can I go to the stadium and watch players April seventh? I was supposed to go to the seventy sixers game against the Milwaukee Bucks. I really wanted to see that game. You know two of the best teams in the League and unfortunately it wasn't going to happen and so for many people that's a key indicator of is it normal so the way. I imagine it's likely to happen is you'RE GONNA. I have games that with fans and you're going to broadcast them. Even that requires a huge number of people. Right you've got to have the players the coaches and then you've got have all the recording equipment broadcast recruitment available. That's a large number of people even in a big stadium and to keep social distancing and keep norms making sure everyone who comes in is covert negative Making sure that Noel leaves covert positive Those are big challenges going forward and I think we're GONNA have to sort those things out. I think that's going. To be phased one face to is obviously. Can we begin doing it with fans the big challenge behind sports? Is You have tens of thousands of people in a stadium. Where you can't do social distancing or physical distancing and the consequence is fifty seven thousand people in a stadium watching a game that is going to probably be among the last things that actually comes back online Because we do have a vaccine I think having broadcast of events is gonNA come on soon and obviously there are different kinds of sports. Where can have the physical distancing a much easier than others? Tennis where people are far apart. Much easier than basketball and football where the crashing into each other. All the time so. I'm really interested to hear your take on this one from illegally the NBA. Where at the very beginning? Once they discovered Rudy Gobert testing positive. They did more of an active planning testing players You know your your podcast deals a lot. Just with the you know logistical aspects of of of what's going on medically but also ethically out. Did you see that when teams like you know The thunder or anybody else was just testing. Plan ahead of anybody else. I thought that was real leadership actually on the part of the team in the and the League. We have a positive here. We don't want to be responsible for spreading the disease either two other players or God forbid to the fans who have come to enjoy this now you potentially life threatening illness so I think the idea of were closing down the Sports League And we're going to try to get our arms around it and do this only in a responsible manner. I think that was A very impressive and you see everyone else followed suit because it was quickly recognized that the NBA had done the right thing. You know. It's not easy in the midst of a crisis to show leadership to take courageous decisions especially decisions that have literally billions of dollars at stake. But I think the NBA a showed. It was up to it and really understood what the consequences were as we speak this past weekend. The president had conversations with Multiple League commissioners including. Mlb The NFL on one of the things that he said afterwards in the statement was that he was almost hoping to the point of having the NFL back in September. And then the governor of California Gavin Newsom said you know. We don't see this a realistic expectation. What do you make of it in terms of people especially? Nfl fans thinking that the season could start as early as September again. Live Games with fans is going to be the last thing to come back and I think we do have this sort of I don't know what exactly to call it out of the White House You know there's a lot of hopeful thinking but I don't think a lot of realistic critical analysis of the situation So the president saying you know we're GONNA START OFF NFL. And then. September not going to happen and I think we just need to be realistic with the public is much better if you tell them realistically what's going to happen And what to expect? And Not Dangle out these hopes that you know almost assuredly I mean I ninety nine point. Nine percent of shortly at Inca happen my sort of mental picture of this as I'm sitting on airplane. What do I want the pilot to tell me? Oh we're GONNA be off in three minutes and then it takes an hour. No I want him to say. Here's what we have to do before we can get off the plane and here's why it's going to take you know an hour. I'm really sorry about it. Rather than every three minutes sort of Bengal ing. It's GonNa Happen and then me be totally frustrated by now. It is possible in September. We might have broadcast I. That's still a huge logistical and public. Health Challenge I don't want to minimize it and I don't want to guarantee that it's going to happen. But that's where I think. The League has to be thinking about it metro. I think fans have to be thinking about it. Would it be better way better to have broadcast games absolutely with no fans? Yeah is that optimal no we? WanNa have the fan experience. We have before corona virus. But let's be realistic about it. Let's not be you know having some false reality. I really enjoyed your airline pilot metaphor. I really hope every airline pilot in the US gets that one realism in a plane. Is definitely something I really wish for? Let's say one thing that you were talking about. It was about making sure sports fans. I understood the reality of what was happening. What message do you have to them? Who may be discouraged by the time of eighteen month? Timeline that you Have Been Stating Look. It's not me this is nature. I mean it's not like Zeke Emanuel Watts punish you and that's why I'm saying eighteen months. I'm just trying to be realistic so we can. All set are realistic expectations. It deprives more people than other time probably on the low end of deprivation you know. I don't own a TV. A not obsessed by but I'm related closely to a brother. Who is you know love? Sports watches sports all the time. He's totally pissed that he's not going to be able to see the cubs this baseball season. I understand the frustration. I really really do but I think we need to be a realistic and you need to recognize yes. We'RE GONNA all lose another year of games and you know we're probably going to have football comeback. Realistically Fall Twenty Twenty One. Maybe a little late. Maybe we'll have a truncated season in twenty twenty one. But that's what we have to look forward to. That's great know. It's not a lifetime of no games a year..
"zeke emanuel" Discussed on KKOB 770 AM
"Wednesday by the centers for disease control and prevention full year data's not yet available for drug overdoses suicides from firearms deaths that something the democrats like to like to focus on they love the idea that you should be allowed to get drugs from your doctor to kill yourself assisted suicide that's a big cost savings under obamacare and it is i'm not kidding zeke emanuel has written extensively about that brother of rama manual and one of their big part of their plan was to kill people sooner so they didn't have to pay we don't have to pay for end of life care which is very expensive so kill grandma pushed her off a cliff in the wheelchair remember they made that tv commercial the news media thought it was amusing they thought it was wonderful it was the opposite of the truth obamacare is pushing grandma off a cliff in a wheelchair that's the fact read what is equal manual brother of from mayo has written about all of this stuff and they love the so they they love the assisted suicide there very much in favor of that ran into a friend of mine the other day who is democrat and she brought up this assisted suicide thing and how it's very important her and republicans shouldn't resist that but when they hear about suicides by firearms they count those has firearm death and then they and then there are very upset anticipate about that so you just have to their way and then as long as you do it their way they'll make it mandatory you just wait and as long as you do it their way they're okay with it because they don't care what you do liberals don't care what you do as long as it's mandatory keep that in mind at all times so our life expectancy is going down obamacare across they're going up i guess that worked out pretty much planned than it did speaking of.
"zeke emanuel" Discussed on WLS-AM 890
"Wednesday by the centers for disease control and prevention full year data's not yet available for a drug overdoses suicides from firearms deaths that something the democrats like to like to focus on they love the idea that you should be allowed to get drugs from your doctor to kill yourself assisted suicide that's a big cost savings under obamacare and it is i'm not kidding zeke emanuel has written extensively about that brother of rama manual and one of their big part of their plan was to kill people sooner so they didn't have to pay we don't have to pay for end of life care which is very expensive so kill grandma pushed off a cliff in the wheelchair remember they made that tv commercial the news media thought it was amusing they thought it was wonderful it was the opposite of the truth obamacare is pushing grandma off a cliff in a wheelchair that's the fact read what is zeke manual brother of from mayo has written about all of this stuff and they love the so they they love the assisted suicide they're very much in favor of that ran into a friend of mine the other day who is democrat and she brought up this assisted suicide thing and how it's very important her and republicans shouldn't resist that but when they hear about suicides by firearms they count those has firearm death and then they and then there are very upset about that so you just have to do it their way and then as long as you do it their way they'll make it mandatory you just wait and as long as you do it their way they're okay with it because they don't care what you do liberals don't care what you do as long as it's mandatory keep that in mind at all times so our life expectancy is going down obamacare across they're going up i guess that worked out pretty much as planned than it did speaking of.
"zeke emanuel" Discussed on Intelligence Squared U.S. Debates
"For service the team arguing against the motion zeke emanuel and david feinberg they concede also that in fact the system is broken but they say it's not terminally broken basically there are saying that the solutions for the future which probably both sides agree upon and the end game there are saying those solutions for the future are already baked into the present i wanted to take the argument to the side arguing for the motion and start with you shannon brownlee you are opponents taking issue with your argument that the the point of like the islands of excellence cannot be scaled and they're saying sure they can argue that point with them well you know i've been around long time and reporting on health care for a long time when i was a reporter back when i was a reporter and we've seen periods of ferment and healthcare before and each time there are these incredible points of light and i don't argue them at all they are fantastic and there are a lot of them but somehow the existing legacy players somehow mean managed to beat it back why is this time difference manual let's look at at the mid nineties we had a big push to control healthcare costs after the failure of the clinton healthcare reform and it was managed care and it basically was one eight hundred just say no and the public did revolt against that and did watt more choice and not drive through deliveries and the consequence was we got rid of any management and quash did go up.
"zeke emanuel" Discussed on POLITICO's Pulse Check
"That jim could come in light we may changes to the spill to reflect their wishes that they didn't come and and negotiate in good faith or that they didn't come and then the support uh try to get a compromise is not because we didn't try so this notion that and by the way it took us all the way right it took us fifteen months to get the bill passed oh i remember we are not right exactly all of us lost a lot of here in wait and uh years of our gained we we are not we are not you know we're barely sixty days into this presidency okay they have never even raise the issue of talking with the democrats to the extent that uh and i'm not elected official you know i don't think ryan sat down with any democrat uh to talk about uh how this bill might be adapted a revised that is not the idea that you know well we can't we can't a reason with the with the uh with the caucus you know um with the with the freedom caucus uh so we'll try to get a bipartisan bill that not not happening here so very different approaches and the republicans screaming all the democrats did it all democratic votes that that's because we didn't try it because the republicans did not agree although i will say again history is often uh forgotten olympia snowe voted for this in the finance committee so um you know uh the fact is she did vote for and then the republicans came down on her like a ton of bricks and forced her to change your vote.
"zeke emanuel" Discussed on POLITICO's Pulse Check
"Imagine it's two thousand nine and you're back in the white house with obama biden pelosi democrats are about to pass the aca jim kerr preta or or joe antos comes in and says you're doing this wrong and it's going to hurt americans how much would you've listened to them way dan i don't understand this question we bill now because it assumed a history that fall we discuss this bill senator blockage had meetings with graphically and lots of other senators brass owen other people about what would the republicans won and i know that my boss peter orzech the director of omb went up to the hill repeatedly to get from olympia snowe republican senator of maine her list of things she wanted in the bill so she could vote for the bill and it was partially my responsibility to make sure those things were in the bill he would come back with a list of here the ten things you know eight of them we had already taken care of and you know i had to run around and make sure the others were done in a way that was acceptable to her we did sit down with the other side and try to come to an agreement the idea that has been floated out there by republicans that we that democrats just did this all by themselves and never discussed things with republicans ever tried to come to a bipartisan deal is fake news and we've got to get the history write history matters we tried to negotiate and get a bipartisan bill the president you know made that a very high priority so the notion.
"zeke emanuel" Discussed on POLITICO's Pulse Check
"Well i you know i am not the political brother um but i can tell you that uh a lot of uh political experts think this bill path is on the house and senate can get signed by the president uh twenty eighteen is the democrats year it will be a disaster for the republicans the democrats would love to run on uh you know throwing millions of people off coverage at a rate hike and spikes uh on a bill that was not bipartisan and was rant literally rammed through um so you know i i think than you would get a backlash such that we would have to have a um a a change a repeal of mr speaker ryan saw a bill so you know democrats aren't in minority for ever um and politics uh is uh is you know volatile and mistakes by a party's lead to political consequences my father uh who is uh uh we're having his ninetieth birthday this coming weekend you know has a phrase which he indelibly imprinted on his kids which is one reason i think we're all such optimism about things is he says the ball is round you know the games unpredictable you know it's possible for the underdog to win that's what makes march madness an amazing time of the year for uh basketball fans um similarly uh you know the ball is round in politics and uh you know the republicans pass this uh it's gonna be an amazing albatross around their neck.