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"zack snyder" Discussed on /Film Daily
"I max release shot in four three the first year film do So i i don't know anymore i don't know for all i know he said this But hbo maximum pants cut into pieces by. Make sure you watch all one go like it's an actual movie i. I don't know beside himself saying that. His justice league series slash mini series. A movie again is news. i'm waiting. Hbo max to put up that press. Release saying it is now a film events or hang dropping episodes at once so make sure you can binge it as a movie. I'm not so sure what to make this other than other than me wondering. What zack snyder is fighting in the editing room and what he's creating because i'm on the record. Thousands of words both written and spoken as xander. The entire wrong fit for these characters in this world and i can be less excited to see his justice league. But you know what people are coming they one can stop gloating about it ben. What do you think this has more palatable movie it certainly does. I've sort of come around to being more interested in this Just because of the sort of weird nature of its existence I'm no longer as a vehemently against this as i once was under I'm just curious now. And i feel like it's going to be. I don't know. I feel like it's gonna be not very good and then i'm curious about what happens after that. So the curiosity is really. What's driving me here. But i am open to to this in a way that i may not quite have been as open in the past. I feel like this entire thing. Jacob is just a a boils down to semantics I think this actually is going to still be released. My guess if i guess. Is that this thing actually still is going to be cut up into whatever four or five arts and its dax neider referring to it as a movie because that's what he has always Thought of as and the actual like language of the question. That was posed to him. Is this person says so. Is this still a series or a one watch of movie. He responded one shot. So i i think there are a couple of different ways that you can take this and The idea that he is referring to it as a movie now might seem like a big deal. But i feel like it's one of those things where you know filmmakers. All the time are like oh. This is like a seventeen hour movie. This series that i made of seventeen consists of seventeen episodes. But it's really like a seven new. I feel like it's that kind of thing where it's just we're getting up on on the these words but it's really just going to be released the same as it always was was going to be as soon as the hbo. Max announced it. So i'm just tired of people claiming tv. Show or movies and movies or tv. Shows out. Zach snyder of all people coming here. Muddying these waters because nobody is better at misspeaking his own intentions insider and he's going to make the so much harder for me going forward to argue. The tv and movies are separate forms and his. There'd be compared on a separate ways. I hate this so much balances even muddied at all. Yeah and i mean like the whole thing. That happened. Jacob with that like the big conversation about whether that was steve mcqueen's new project on amazon. Whether that's tv or movie. I feel like we're all especially i think. The pandemic has has hastened these trends and blurred the line to such a degree. That you if that's a particular hell that you find yourself in trying to draw this distinction between film and television. I very bad news for you about the years to come. Because since twin peak season three made a bunch people's festivals of the year list as if they thought david lynch was above television. No he is frigging not the manmade television thirty years ago and he came back to it. All right steve. Mcqueen made five films. That amazon put a season because amazon is stupid. Doesn't know how to package things properly. This is my new menu home alone. Dockers argument bend die hard movie. This is i'm looking forward to your solo spin off part about this. I can't wait to off my office screaming at ut. I cannot wait to watch that. Let's get to our last item of the day and that is a piece of theme park news Disneyland has cancelled its annual pass holder program due to the pandemic so the president of disneyland. I believe this was on thursday of last week. Made this big announcement that's Basically the the theme park has decided to put an end to its annual pass holder program which i think is going to have pretty significant ramifications of on howell people in southern california engage with disneyland like i think the big jacob. I know you're you're much more in the theme park realm than i am. You're you're ingrained in the news of this community in a way that i never could could be so. I'll just like basically lob this up. I wanna hear your your take on this. But my understanding is that because People in southern california essentially used disneyland as a communal spot. A gathering place a hang out spot at end. These people have this annual pass. Were basically the can. Just come and go as they please. Now that this program has has ended. It seems like that is going to change things in a pretty significant way for the way that that not only those people interact with disneyland. Those those frequent People but also the tourist who go there some only one time in their entire lives and now maybe the parks will be a little bit more empty because those folks who just come to like basically have a drink with their friends in their restaurants and wander around and maybe ride a arrived before they head home. Those people might not be there as much so taking all this. Yeah we famously. Distinction between.
Netflix to release 70 movies in 2021
"Of Netflix nights, The company has released its 2021 movie lineup. It includes 70 films more than Warner Brothers and Disney combined. That's enough for at least one movie night every week of the year. The new offerings include Lin, Manuel Miranda and Halle Berry's first Go rounds in the director's chair, as well as the Dwayne Johnson. Action flick Red Notice. Don't LOOK UP starring Jennifer Lawrence and Army of THE Dead. Directed by Batman versus Superman. Zack Snyder Shape
"zack snyder" Discussed on Zero Credit(s)
"And so that's in the podcast forever. That's fine. I think with now as we have often discussed end is always the case. Zack snyder news is the best and most important is we can discuss on on the podcast and nothing else can compare to the glory at the crest of the mountain so we might just wanna land this year airplane before we land the plane wanna say. I m heights for the schneider cut. I genuinely hope it fixes everything about that film. Because while i can explain to people while i can explain people into liking batman versus superman i cannot explain people into liking justly so i hope it redeems it to a point where even if people don't like it i can tell them why they should like it. You know that's a. That's a noble enough ambition. I as someone who i were. I think recently realized. I've never actually seen justice league. I was just thinking about superman dawn of justice own will. I thought that whatever that tall bad guy was was steppenwolf apparently was a different guy. Doing day. I would like to say that i look forward to watching a movie that is hated and then i get to see something that is unique and unparalleled in the history of art which is an artist Being given more chances and more money than any artist has ever been given to just go totally wild in the editing bay and really what more can we ask from executives today. Just give art as more money to do what they won and free reign and everything's going to work out in the end. Hopefully fingers crossed. It's crazy to me is the way he says the sentence. Here's one piece of information. Nobody knows the movie is insane and so epic. Here's what you don't know my movie insane epic so insane so epic. You wouldn't even know how insane epic it is. You wouldn't you've not take a four hour version of it. You thought any of my work was good. None of my work was full or hours long. So good in the been good kid. You thought this was my full power. I wonder if there's going to be an intermission in the theatrical version so people can light excuse themselves to re up on their food or use the bathroom or whatever..
"zack snyder" Discussed on Zero Credit(s)
"Fade to black the other time. The last time people were talking about the miniseries was four months ago and people have not said anything sense. Yes are. we'll see we'll see what. Hbo mixed decides about releasing that they're many series. But a you know maybe we get a weltman get out like a thief in the night and we only have to watch the original cut and compared directly to the schneider cut because i feel like honestly that like the better in terms of actually can like doing something that gives value. That might actually have some value behind it rather than our current plan which we made as joe yet rather than the job plant. Hey maybe if they don't do that that'll give us time to do a supplemental reading of both the first and second seasons of mandalorian. You know it would be good to actually get a chance to talk about. Probably the best star wars content. That's ever been made. Yeah the i think that would maybe be better than watching four sixty minute long but also he was saying at the time that it was going to be and i quote an entirely new thing saturday Yeah it's completely read from re-cut of the. I don't know every time i talk about. Zack snyder i get so confused because mind is like a beautiful puzzle. I don't think we are meant to understand it. He's a lot like the doctor manhattan of our time or like god or like you know. He works on his on. He's american he works in mysterious ways. Sometimes he gives you a mini series. Sometimes he gives you a whole movie. Sometimes there's like a council of trent or something. One time he made a king cut cow godot in half. I don't this god did that. How much of the bible. I'm just gonna see everything in the bible. God's fault i mean everything that's ever happened as gods full. Don't you love the Drake song god's filed gone drake music concerned. Yeah he was. I guess looking at it that way. Yes everything is god's fault can we just admit on the podcast. Sometimes god's asleep at the wheel and we can't crucify him for this to respond to the. Don't worry about it i will. I mean if you're diaz you absolutely believe god's asleep at the wheel yeah he just you know he's not sleep at the wheel. He just went to go. Get cigarettes as a clockmaker. The clock was made what what he end. The do fixed the clock. Just watch it run. He washes it run. Baby zack snyder. In god have another thing in common in ripped. Derek zach is ripped that is the takeaway of this episode. That is the moral of the story. That is what we want you to focus on. I sound barrier has increasingly gotten in the way my mic during this episode. Please normalize zack snyder. Being ripped yes. That's what we want you to take away from this. Entertainment skews me failing entertainment news week. Entertainment newsweek magazine. That's what we want you to take away. I moved my cellophane well talking..
"zack snyder" Discussed on Zero Credit(s)
"Epic re-cut of justice league in there is some fresh hot as of yesterday evening. News regarding the snyder. Which of course you and i have contractually agreed to supplement to reading out and i would like to share with you an article from what entertainment weekly Failing entertainment weekly. And i don't now can i step in quick. Yes it was the council of trent trent. They decided what would go into the new testament. So zack snyder. So the people who originally made zack snyder. Oh they hit them all. They belittled him in the editing bay and they forced him to make edits against his will. Ooh and that's how movies work way. No no no no. No no john do you really do. I have to step in and tell you what actually happened There are mad at him. they were mean to wait no the jocelyn thing actually remember yeah. He was fired from his productions fired. Yeah and just weeded into make the movie funny okay. So just like how. God came back to write the new testament to the council of trent told him they fired him. And then they hire joss we the right the bible and then case back agree the new as the same thing. Henry is happening ear. Zack schneider's god. Sect snyder is god. This is an article from one. The failing entertainment weekly. Newsweek veiling entertainment weekly a now. A lot of people have heard a specific thing about this interview however i would like to read most of the interview in its entirety because i feel like there is a certain certain toll on that's lost so in in the title and the subtitle you'll hear what most people baton but if you're plugged into the dicko as someone who is plugged into the deck you. I know what you're going to say. So i look forward to the nuances of the interview. So the title followed by subtitle. Zack snyder's justice league might get r. Rated the attributes release subtitle. Snyder says his four hour superhero epic. Make it a theatrical release complete with an f-bomb dropping batman plus the director weighs in on the warner brothers. Twenty twenty one slate controversy. I've got nothing at this point. So most people know about this from the fact that on twitter. Everyone's talk about like all the time about batman dropping. The f word cool. That is not what you should be taken away from this article which i get. Because long-form information is difficult to convey in a tweet. But the interview with zack. Snyder begins zach. Siders looking to bring his highly anticipated director's cut of justice league to the big screen and his new footage would likely tip the four hour opus into an ra open quote. Here's one piece of information. Nobody knows the movie is insane. And so epic and is probably rated r. That's one thing i think will happen..
"zack snyder" Discussed on Zero Credit(s)
"That's cute down for that can we. We're not going to belabor this point but it's it should be illegal the way you glossed over the fact that there's going to be a moon knight she hulk series. I'm pretty sure oscar. Isaac has been tapped for the moon knight series. I'm so happy. Needless to say there's a lot of series coming to disney plus. Yeah there there's a lot of are we are. We going to talk about the multitude of star wars series. We're getting there john. I'm doug whiteman up because now we're just gonna get to the movies. A black panther twos being shot set for july twenty twenty two sad they are not recasting. Shala which i think is a really good move. What if i hope. They don't know paul walker. I really hope they don't they. Can't they disney's too smart ryan. Kugler is going back to iraq. So i feel like whatever he's gonna make a really smart decision about how to handle that third ant man and the wasp film. I know you're dying to hear about. This finally has a name. But i don't care about it. So i'm gonna to great doctor strange in the multitude of multi multi verse madness. Yup most walter I'm added as the one person who likes doctor strange. It's to tie into both the upcoming wanda vision in also the third spider man movie. Here's something that i enjoy is someone who likes doctor strange knows that most people don't i get a real kick out of how central his whole deal has been to everything people like. Yeah i mean we're we're kind of forced to accept doctor strange because he seems to be like just always there. The ending event gave would not exist with doctor strange and then finally the last thing they announced was they're developing a new fantastic four movie because no one is learned this lesson yet. Fantastic for the one. Truly cursed comic book franchise. All of this is to say that none of this matters because as we've discussed on the pod gas before marvel is over. Yeah marvel's over. It's cool that they're making like cute little. Tv shows with these people we liked. But you know yeah. They did it. They wrapped up twenty three movies. Why would you try to do more. Why would you pylon. it really feels. I don't know. I have no idea what the sentiment of the of the viewing public of these things. But i can't imagine that people feel as strongly about.
"zack snyder" Discussed on Zero Credit(s)
"True story. There's a picture going around from the disney shareholders. meeting investors. Meeting don't know those are different things. anyway of someone presenting like a giant like green screen behind them filled with the names of the shows that they're going to be Producing in upcoming years. And i saw that and thought it was a photoshop. I thought it was a no for real now. Okay like burnt. They broke it up into the different studios like marvel. Lucasfilm's what have you. But but yet they've announced projects going into like late. Twenty twenty two twenty twenty three In a lot of it Unsurprisingly is coming to disney plus as a little series. Little little mandalorian like series. I'd hate to say that the mandalorian change the world. But i think it at least changed the way. The disney is approaching making content for their flagship series particularly star wars. Because we can tell from the last three of those maybe their strategy of of banking hard to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars on three new movies. Maybe not the greatest choice. I think the fact that there was no baby. Yoda merch prepared. For the first season of the mandalorian kinda shows that the mandalorian caught disney completely and utterly off guard. They did not brief feel like it was going to be popular especially after the. You know what the fuck was called. Ray skywalker adventures. Oh yeah the yeah the rise. The some people call it. T. t. p. s. which stands for the saga you know what the p. stands for fewer real head. We do not know what the p. stands for. Oh i just got.
Jared Leto set to reprise Joker in 'Justice League: The Snyder Cut'
"Joker is getting some justice in director Zack Snyder's new cut of Justice League. Snyder had to leave the film due to the death of his daughter. But now he's shooting new footage in order to remake the movie into what he originally intended. It'll air on HBO. Max Leto wasn't even in the original version of Justice Lee, but he's been called into play the Joker in some new scenes. Jared, of course, played the Joker in suicide squad, which was tied to justice. Lee, thanks to an appearance by Ben Affleck's Batman
HBO Max grants fans' wishes to see unreleased cut of 'Justice League'
"Five H. B. L. Max will premiere the Zack Snyder cut of justice league here's Michele Pelino what I command star Jason Momoa one he guides Zack Snyder's cut of the twenty seventeen DC superhero film justice league has landed on HBO MAX premiering next year the film directed by Snyder sees Batman Wonder Woman Aquaman the flash cyborg
"zack snyder" Discussed on Show Me the Meaning!
"A supplemental material. You're introduced to these other These other cells of you know artist making things. There's all these other characters that have to disappear on an island that make the squid that then die and for an already on movie. I think you just have to cut that out and so I think the basic premise of Dr Manhattan. I'm okay I'm okay with that and I think a lot of it still works but the thing that I find that kind of ruins is two things one is that Dak cider up the stakes. What I think is really great about Al. Moore's ending is that New York kills. I think three million or a few million people for world peace which is a horrifying number. But Zack Snyder made it New York and Moscow and all of these things so It's great of a crime and I think I think the few million lives for of humanity is at least a little more debatable. Than what in the movie? He just killing way. Way More people right so I think it removes at least a little bit of the ambiguity but also the thing that kind of bothers me. Is that in the graphic novel? The conversation mostly people are obviously outraged when they were ozzy. Mandela's did but it's mostly conversation between Manhattan and Ozzy Mandy as an OSCE Mandy. Is this kind of asking Dr Manhattan? Like do you think I did. The right thing is kind of happens later At which point he refuses to sort of. Morley absolve him but says nothing ever ends and is one. Everyone seems to just be like Yep Ozzy Mandy says totally right. We can't do it whereas I think in the graphic novel. There's this better center. Everyone feels blackmailed. Gross about it may just seem a little too enthusiastic and last thing is and I don't know is this just in the ultimate cup but nothing ever end lines. A Hat said by Laurie. But in a way that you can text rely like it's like well John would have said this and it's like that line doesn't mean the thing that made it good anymore unless it's an ovation where Ozzy Mandy as-as asking for sort of moral absolution yet. Don't let me forget because I do want to talk about what we think. Line means But I also when I first saw it. I thought it was a smart change too because the first time. I read the graphic novel I was confused as Hell as to. Why they even why they even had a giant squid. But one thing I do want to. I said I would recommend a video essay. Captain Christian did a really good watchmen video essay years ago And he brought he. He pointed out something that in the graphic novel. The violence is kind of muted. A little bit up until the squid comes in and then the squid is the most grotesque part of the entire graphic novel. I mean you know there were like pages of people being disfigured. And it's really actually hard to read and how. It kinda really emphasized the horror of what Ozzie. Mandates did whereas in the movie. It's the opposite in the movie. We're seeing all this bad ass really bloody action like when Laurie and Dan beat up those thugs in the alleyway. I mean they are fucking them a bone objects from the guy's arm cool one. It was cool. It was cool but then when the whole Dr Manhattan's Energy Signal or whatever destroying New York which is what we see. It's like the opposite. We see no blood. We see people just evaporate but it doesn't hit you like it does in the graphic novel were you know We see the magnitude of the violence. The magnitude of the destruction whereas at the end of the movie. It is kind of just your average of city being leveled. We've seen it many times snyder would later do it. In Man of steel and Batman v Superman we'd all seen before whereas like the truly horrific nature of it was really communicated quite well in the graphic novel. And so I. I totally attribute this to Captain Christians Video Essay. But I think that it's a pretty astute point and Something that I think that is does make the movie a little bit weaker and to Alex Point almost makes the audience kind of go along with his plan a little bit more. Don't get me wrong. I would've loved to see the giant squid realized and that is such a bizarre ending to a to a book So it would have been cool to see but I think what we got was cool but I. I pretty much agree with what you said. My problem is that. Don't you think people would come to the conclusion that Dr Manhattan did this to make himself a scapegoat? Like people would kind of theorize. What Ozzie Mandy did but instead attributed to Dr Manhattan whereas the giant Octopus from another dimension is so wild and so out of nowhere that people wouldn't suspect anything except what it seems like no because we'd already seen Dr People already thought of Dr Manhattan is kind of a loose cannon already because of what had happened at Earlier right on on the TV station. Yeah I mean yeah. That's fair if I want to be really nerdy critical about it and I don't even support this view that we should try to find Paul's but there's nothing you can do about Dr Manhattan like if Dr Manhattan wants to blow up the Soviet Union in America. There's nothing feasibly they can do. Whereas you know this unknown squid thing. I guess maybe they can try to develop some countermeasures or something you make another doctrine hadn't whether or not but whether or not it's possible the ideas that mankind has to join together to try. Do you WanNa talk. It's okay let's talk about That line that should have that doctor Manhattan should have read that Lauren's of sayings that nothing ever ends now in our video on Friday we have a particular interpretation of that as as it's relevant to the HBO show which as everyone knows is quite different than the graphic novel just within the context of the just the graphic novel. What did you think he meant by that at that point? I think there's a sense that all events past present future are interconnected or at least that's kind of the interpretation. We take with the show as well but I do think it plays here and that like this massive thing. That bite did to change the course of history. It's impossible to say in the moment whether or not was worth it because nothing ever ends like as we even as we see on the TV show or if you want ignore the TV show like the consequences of this action will literally never end as ripples throughout history in the future right. Yeah the way that I had initially interpreted. It was as kind of a reflection of the Percy shelley poem that Vais Vite is obsessed with you know we we see it In the movie we just see the my name is Osmania King of kings. Look on my works. You mighty and despair from the Percy shelley poem but then the lines right after that are nothing beside remains round the decay of that colossal wreck. Boundless bear the Lone and level sands stretch far away so to me it was doctor. Manhattan just telling him in a sense that You know even the thing that you tried to avoid will not end because Like the decay in despair that ramesses the second ended up being subjected to will also be subjected to your dream. Yea and I do think there's a lot of and I think is what makes the graphic novel so good is. There's a lot of parallel things happening. That helped conceptualize vite. And this is why I agree. And even agrees that tales from the black freighter. Don't work an ultimate cut because it just feels too disjointed but the story about a guy who wants to save his wife and children from this horrible threat but in the process sort of becomes the monster that he's trying to fight and you know he ends up joining the black freighter So I think. That's one way to conceptualize it but another way with nothing ever ends is just the story of Warri. Right in that. She her history. Her sort of founding moment goes back to the comedian sexually assaulting her mother And Dr Manhattan calls it a thermodynamic miracle that despite all the thousands of generations despite that horrible incident like there is in this moment. That sort of beautiful thing in front of him that happens so without sort of saying it's okay Adrian. You did the right thing or in similarly without saying like nobody's saying that the comedian sexually assaulting So expect there was a good thing but in the way that these things ripple throughout history we can see like the sort of complicatedness of them. And I think it's kind of getting at that kind of idea. So you mentioned the black freighter real quick. Do you think that it's meant to specifically parallel Ozzy Mandy as-as act or Roszak? Because I'm in a way the fact that it could be either one like Rohrschack the castaway becomes grimmer and more dark as he does what he needs to survive like Rohrschack who you know after he There's that whole story. He tells about him investigating the disappearance of a little girl and then finding the guy who killed her and then saying that You know Walter Kovacs died that day and Rohrschack was born and his disposition towards evil to skits grimmer and deeper into the point where he says there's good and there's bad and the bad need to be put down and on the other hand. You could also look like like ozzy mandates into saying that he becomes the this because of his deeds and the thing I like about that. Is that when we think about kind of the moral center of the movie? It really is a war between the ideals of Rohrschack nauseous. Because you know Rohrschack is the dion who believe who refuses to bend his Moral Code and if you know killing millions of people is wrong no matter for what end and then we have. Ozzy Mandy is who's more the consequentialist who believes that killing millions to save billions age. Just thing and I like that. The story can kind of apply to both people. Yeah and I don't know if I missed this. This is in the graphic novel. But in the tales from black freighter in the movie the sale get splattered with something. That kind of looks. Like whoa shacks pattern. So I think they are being intentional about that. Intr- yeah I noticed that watching the movie as well but I don't remember it from the graphic novel either. It seems like the kind of thing that does X. night or might have added. Yeah but I also I mean one thing from reading the graphic novel movies I you know. I think this is intentional. In both just what a creep worship is I mean? He's essentially? I like just mad that everyone's having sex and doing drugs all the time you know. I never really looked at it like that. I mean to me he's more Travis Bickel into okay. Well actually I like Rohrschack more than I like Travis. Bickel and taxi driver but I mean it's hard to say. Just how depraved. The streets really are and how sick he really is. Because how can you really know? I mean there's one line that I think is like full-on he sa- he describes something of screams like an abattoir which is a slaughterhouse full of retarded children and the night reeks fornication and bad consciences and like his mom was like a prostitute and through that trauma. He's just like all prostitutes are evil. Which is is we're or like I. He's the type that's like premarital sex as bad as arm sang it's your. It's hard to morally evaluate these kind of things like I think of a similar thing with a Gotham in the dark knight trilogy like apparently the city is so bad. But what exactly is is going on here. And what exactly is so bad that it justifies like taking a kind of fascistic attitude towards what is good and what is bad and enforcing it on your own terms and I think to a large extent. That's what Alan Moore's kind of going for In the character of Rohrschack is kind of deconstructing people like Batman who thinks who thinks that you know. Their moral code should be imposed on. Everyone like me. Yeah right Anything else that you guys wanted to bring up not the top of my head. I'm steering a quick scan while you're scanning I will just say that I appreciate that. The movie jumps back and forth in time like the graphic novel. I mean you can easily imagine a scenario where the writer gets pressured by the studio to Linear linearly. Tell the story of Dr Manhattan because I think a lot of mainstream viewers when they watch this movie and they see this giant dude with the Big Blue Dong- they're like what the fuck is going on whereas if they had told kind of linear superhero narrative that we're all used to of your incredible hulk like scenario turning him into a bad ass. People would be a lot more comfortable but I just can't respect them enough for doing it like they did the graphic novel and also because it works with the whole thing. We experience the the story like Dr Manhattan Experiences Time And even so Alec. You mentioned the part where Hollis Mason gets killed. That's probably one of the worst parts of the movie and that is not in the theatrical cut and but I will say that I I think you're distinction about him being like kind of like flashing back to his lame glory days is is apt but I do like that flashed that flashes back to his past enemies because at least it works with the whole time the thing that is a visual Motif. Not only in the movie but in the graphic novel definitely and so then leaning into that is something that I think is pretty smart. I have okay so I have two quick things one of which I've been obligated to ask about from Mike Oxen Berg. But what this is the first one. Richard Nixon's knows great choice bold choice. I liked it. I thought it was weird. But I'M NOT GONNA hate on it. There are some people that look really good like that. are You know Actors playing whether it's David Bowie or Truman capote or Andy Warhol some of them. Look really good the Nixon. One doesn't look as good but I don't know I kind of always imagined that it was supposed to be like that..
"zack snyder" Discussed on Show Me the Meaning!
"All right first thing I want to talk about. Let's Alec. I I really don't WanNa pick on you because I I've kind of like a trap. No really I I want I want to hear more about what feels a little bit off about the movie because there are some things that actually have been pointed out in some really good video. Say's that I'll recommend at some point That are a little bit off from what the comic was going. But I'm curious to hear a little bit more about this uncanny valley thing or this tonal office that you were speaking of. Yeah and I think one thing to realize here think we all probably agree with this. Is Zack Snyder's really good at like creating specific moments specific frames and stuff like that and so he makes a lot of visual references to the graphic novel for instance. There's a dream in the graphic novel where night out to and silk spectre are kissing. And there's like a new going off in the back recruits. That's like really cool and really beautiful. Obviously the fight. Choreography is really cool. But what happens is in like in the graphic novel there's a sense You know there's the theme of Nostalgia There's not only the nostalgia perfume but it's all these like old bloated superheroes sort of trying to relive their glory days and Kinda goofy night to functionally a weird nerd and he has a in this movie as well but what happens is I think there's no better example of this and maybe this is all in the ultimate cup. Mason Hollis the original night owl in the graphic novel. He is confused with the other night owl so some thugs come to his house and beat them up and murder him and what happens is he tries to fight them off. But he's old and crippled and so he's flashing back panel by panel Imagining himself as a young man fighting criminals while these dogs are murdering him right But what happens in the movie with Snyder is the same thing is happening. It's still cutting back to his delusions of you. Know his former days but he's also beating the shit out of these people and sure they obviously win but the old man is way too bad ass whereas in the graphic novel. He's object of pity. I think that is greatly reduced here. Another example is there's a sort of weird nerdy rescue seen in the graphic novel that also plays out where night out to seems like he's facing some evidence like he can't get it up. It's unclear but there he's making out with Warri And then they can't make it work so he standing naked in front of his costume. And then they tried to go on a superhero mission again. Relive the glory days and they find a burning building and they save it apartment the graphic novel. It's like well. If I moved the steering column we can fit them all in and they serve coffee to them and it's weird nerdy and kind of great because the whole movies making fun of the Genre Button. Zach Snyder version. He's using the Gatling gun on his ship to shoot down a water tower and Warri literally does a superhero land like into the fire in the same kind of way that like deadpool. Make of years and years later So I think Zack Snyder's biggest problem kind of strength is that he's really good at making things. Look bad ass. Like three hundred but by bad ass. It misses the point of the original comic. Which are these are? A bunch of weird has been making end. Lots of commentary about how they dress up. Funny in our bunch of Weirdos or does it that he makes it so bad ass. Make It really sell the ace that it completely to You know he's the perfect person to pull off this satire. You know that's as well so okay. I'm I I think that you put it in you. Put it in really good words because I think that this is also if I were to complain about one thing and that is what do we mean when we say filming the unfilmable like when people said that? This movie was unfilmable. I mean Ryan. You brought that up I mean. Do you think that they were just talking about special effects? No the reason is because the the the graphic nature of the graphic novel is really cool and Different for the time and it had all used all these supplemental materials to tell the story. You know so you. You saw the files from the F. B. I. That kind of lead you on something. You saw some other clues. You saw the different newspaper reports you saw graphs and stuff. It was telling the story with all this different stuff so when people talk about. Who's going to film this thing? They're kind of like? Are you going to do that? Or you're gonNA use that in the film How are you gonNa kind of take all this information that Alan Moore presented to you in different ways and do it semantically? And he did kind of you know he. He didn't really do the that that much like there wasn't like zooms in on graphs and computer screens and stuff But he he definitely adapted frame for frame the comic kind of like Sin City like Robert. Rigas did like where like he literally said. I'm I'm adapting literally the Comic Frame for frame in Sin City and you can definitely see that kind of influence. A little bit as exciting as where? Where if you're a big fan of the comic you like like when he gets gets kicked out the window. You're like okay. That's straight up. The comic sell from the thing you know realized in full of on cinema so I think that that's kind of what a lot of people. Yeah I'll agree to that And I think they did a pretty good job. I mean we see The book under the Hood in the background so many times throughout the movie. I mean we don't really actually get any chapters of it like we do the black freighter thing in the ultimate cut which shouldn't have been there anyway. But I do think that to Alex Point. The violence at times is too awesome. No no it's no because perfectly awesome well because if you're trying to as the graphic novel does kind of deconstruct the superhero genre during the action scenes. It almost seems the movie is inhabiting the Superhero Genre. And so there's an awkward tension work kind of goes back and forth between deconstructing it and then just relishing in it and I think that's kind of where this kind of total disconnect can can go off at the one thing that I I'll argue that I think he's able to Rivera. Smartly kind of maintain that critical distance is with the soundtrack. Because we don't get your regular superhero soundtrack. Of everything you know Crescendo doing to this epoch. Moment we don't really get much of a score. We get Bob Dylan Simon and Garfunkel. Which a not only adds to the alternate history thing. That's going on in this movie but so one particularly brilliant example I like is during the Vietnam Section where Dr Manhattan is blowing up people's heads. We hear Wagner 's ride of the valkyries From a complaint from the third one well and this is largely because we chatted a little bit sometimes are bad and we do podcasts boilers and talk a little bit about it but in apocalypse if you're to read it just straight up as a allusion to apocalypse now which I think it very much asks us to do since we see the black helicopters in the background it's in Vietnam. It's the same setting in apocalypse. Now it is meant to undercut the seriousness of this character. Who is rating this village and thinks he's a total bad ass because he's just going to wipe away this village so that he can surf. So if you kind of look at it Inter textually. I think it's actually quite smart. In how it undercuts the severity and the seriousness and the quote unquote awesomeness. Yes I think it's the opposite because I think he's like I. I really like a lot of the music selection here but like specific and I think he's being very deliberate like I think he is saying. I want to emulate this apocalypse now seen but you know apocalypse now. Is this like Anti War movie? As he said he wants to clear out. And Kill all these people so you can have a better surfing spot and instead he just like wouldn't it be cool if I put? I think again like because he's so focused on static he wouldn't it be cool if Dr Manhattan Bore People's heads and you're just getting into his mind. You seem to these interviews. I only I have not looked at any. I don't I don't want to say I've never red sox interview but I've not read anything except I think in the wikipedia. He mentioned that he even says the tales from the raiders and volunteer. But that's a separate point but I don't know and again like I think tone is like a really harden weird thing I mean I do think it is an inner textual thing where just as it's ridiculous and over the top and Like kind of questioning the glory of violence in this meaningless war I think it accomplishes basically the same thing in this very short section but still a really powerful part. Sorry I basically just I basically just said the same thing that I said about it being it working. Inter textual intersects Julie but if you had not seen apocalypse now I can maybe see it being just like oh man. It's so awesome so I don't know I think it comes down to town and it's like a weird amorphous thing depend down and obviously apocalypse now has a tone and I think everyone agrees that works I don't know he's just really good making it. Look Cool Yeah There's another part where they play that song. I'm boogeyman while the while. The watchman are trying to disperse a riot especially with the comedian You know gassing people and hitting people with rubber bullets indiscriminately. I just think that that is a really good effort to kind of take down the self seriousness that these acts Snyder aesthetic would otherwise portray. There are some Some interesting music choice. I just WANNA mention so ninety nine. Red Balloons. I recently learned this. People probably recognize it. But it's a song about like nuclear armageddon which is very fond. It plays that specific scene. And I think it's a really good choice. But while Dr Manhattan's has on Mars they play There's have you guys seen kind of Scott's it's like this weird experiment. Yeah baby filled glass. Yes so Philip Costa's the soundtrack and they play. I think one or two songs from a end. The whole film is kind of the the time lapse fast photos of the world and I think the subtitle film is like life out of order or something like that and it shows the Challenger. Bob And it's Kinda dislike. I mean I think it works a weird meditative thing But again I think very specific music choices there. I think it's from the part of the movie called the grid which is pretty awesome in Scots. If you'RE GONNA IF YOU'RE GONNA watch one part of Yanni Scott's watched the part called the grid I think that's where they take the music from in the doctor Manhattan section and then go out and watch a Baraka and Sonesta or whatever the hell it's called. Some of those are similar movies. But there's actually like a another something he Scott see movie but anyway Let's just talk about the thing that most people criticize before talk about the ending. I mean what do you guys think about the change? Changing out the squid for Dr Manhattan. Why do you think they made that choice? And how do you think it kind of ends up working? I think that they did it because I mean this is a huge movie. A huge risk and just they. I think it was just the sheer idea of introducing a giant squid which is Kinda seems like so absurd like a non sequitur even at the end of the movie as the big destructive force. Just seem maybe like People wouldn't buy it or something or it was too silly or maybe it was too big of an effect that would have cost one hundred billion dollars but then honestly I'm I'm not usually a big fan of making such a drastic Choi change from the source material. Since I totally read it and I know this one I'm a acted to it emotionally but this was a very smart change. I thought like in terms of like being if you're a story editor in terms of just truncating a narrative and trying to work together pieces in different ways like Oh this is a very smart change. It does change the ending a lot in everything. But I think it makes Dr Manhattan's Character Way Cooler at the end of the day. The fact that he recognizes that Ozzy Mandy Os's write quote unquote. You know like like I think that that was cool for the novel. The movie I I actually kind of agree with Ryan and that I think it's a smart choice. You've already got a movie. That's three and a half hours and the ultimate cut. There's there I think the reason the I think the reason it works in the graphic novel wrestle on unfilmable parts like there's.
"zack snyder" Discussed on Show Me the Meaning!
"What's up everybody who welcome to show me the meaning. Quarantine addition. My name is jared. I'm joined here by the wisecracked crew. We Got Ryan while Bill. Pans be safe. We Got Alec. Hey and today. We're talking about. The movie watchmen the two thousand nine movie directed by Zack Snyder. Starring Jackie Earle Haley. Patrick Wilson Mellon Ackerman. Billy Krupp Jeffrey Dean Morgan based on the graphic novel by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons adapted by the screen by David solid snake. Hater Aleksei. As always we're GONNA go around and get some first impressions. What do people think the first time they saw this movie? And what do they think revisiting it for this podcast? I already know what Alex. Thanks very curious here Ryan thinks so. Let's hear Ryan has to say Ryan? Tell us about your relationship. With watchmen remind major. Do we watch this the first time together or was that me and Adam. I think it might have been you and Adam. I saw this at the draft house back in two thousand nine with my roommates anyway. Whatever I love this the first time I had never read the source material yet But now I have so This is one of the one of the few times in. Show me the meaning history where I Ryan have read a book with the movie. Were watching and so now I can actually critically look at it from the filmmaking perspective and you know the the literature perspective and I have to say you know. I'd always heard of the kind of legend of watchmen before the movie came out like it was it always been called unfilmable quote unquote giving him the title of our of our of our talk today. Filming the UNFILMABLE and I'd say he did a fucking awesome job filming the UNFILMABLE. The vibe to say so zack. Snyder is a great filmmaker. I kind of lost it. A little bit in his later Twilight years of his directing career but this was him at his apex. I think this in three hundred But in terms of adapting of something and then making it really cool and accessible to the masses and also keeping it to the core of what the spirit of the original thing was. I think it was great so I don't know nine out of ten and I'm just also a sucker for for slow motion montage while pop songs play. So if you're into that Zack. Snyder is your man so this movie is great excited to talk about it cool. I wish I had to talk about it too. Especially after hearing what Alec has to say Alec we think about this movie. Oh God I'm GonNa get crucified. Yeah well I saw this movie a long time ago before. I think I was a teenager. I had not read graphic novel. I don't even think I knew the graphic novel existed and I remember. Kind of maybe like yeah. I think I was confused. Which is an a hit on the movie? I was just kind of like a dumb sort of film viewer at the time Didn't pay close attention to stop. Nor did I really understand what the source material or? The movie was trying to go for so the main emotion. I remember his feeling confused Now present day. I've read the graphic novel I you know watch. Tv show which obviously is very different. And I watched the ultimate cut which is three and a half hour. So some of my. This is what I want to kind of figure out. Some of my perspective here is may be informed by that but I was so bored it so long and the movie already has long in this just awesome. Maybe I'm being unfair but I also think and we can talk about this a little bit later. That Zack Snyder tries to adapt the movie with a in some ways. Like very religiously like there's so many small little details that are true to the comic but in a way that ends up being in an uncanny valley with the source material. In a way that I feel like is not good. I also feel like on an aesthetic level. He tries to to make it. Seem like the watchmen. But is maybe not getting it. Like on a tunnel level or sexual. I duNNo. We can talk about that. Later yeah. I'm excited to talk about that. Because my relationship with this is so. I read the graphic novel the day before. The film came out back in two thousand nine. I read the whole thing on one plane flight and then the next day I already had tickets to see the movie and I was overall really impressed with the adaptation. I thought that The movie was really good. I've seen the movie probably like six times. Although this was the first time watching the ultimate cut and for people who have watched the ultimate cut that whole thing with The freighter what is it. The the black freighter. Tally had freighter. Yeah they add that into the movie which. I don't even think they needed it in the in the graphic novel to be perfectly honest. I mean I understand that. There's some interesting parallels that go with the characters and stuff but it wasn't my favorite part of the graphic novel and definitely did not need to be in the movie There are also so I actually have seen the theatrical cut a number of times. It's the better movie than the ultimate cut. So I'll be able to answer some of your questions. Alec about what was what was changed because I have seen it a number of times so then I started thinking about it more and I reread the graphic novel years later and I started to think. Well I don't know. Did Zack Snyder. Get something wrong. Is this whole graphic novel. A bit pithier than Zack Snyder. Kind of glommed onto but then after watching it and I didn't read the graphic novel in its entirety but Alec and I have been working on a watchman video that focuses on the. Hbo show that comes out Friday. That I'm really excited about and I've come to the conclusion that no I think. Zack Snyder did a really awesome job. I think this movie is freaking awesome. I think it's probably his best move. It's it's his best movie There are some of the performances are probably the the most memorable performances that actor will have in their career. I guess for walking dead fans. You could argue Jeffrey. Dean Morgan is better as Nagin. But Jeffrey Dean Morgan is. The comedian is so inspired. Jackie Earle Haley. As rohrschack is amazing. That's like the role. He was born to play. The Guy who plays Ozzy Mandy? S I think is is the biggest letdown. Because it's such an interesting great role and I not like that actor at all was named Matthew good or something like that wasn't into him. I liked billy crowd up as Dr Manhattan. Every frame of this movie is gorgeous and it's and to your point Alec. It is very reverend to the source material. I'm interested to hear more about how it could be. Kind of like overly reverent or Kinda UNCANNILY UNCANNY valley thing but overall I think this is axe nighters. Best movie and just painstaking attention to detail and craft. And I think it's frigging awesome and in a time. Where like Loving Zack? Snyder is not the coolest thing in the world. I think that this is like total testament to the fact that he is a balls to the wall. Excellent filmmaker are you not a three hundred men? I would say three hundred is up three hundred why I saw. I don't know does that move. Hold up or does a baby. I haven't seen it since leaders turn it on and crank up the volume. Yeah still remember I just remember it being just a Syringe of pure adrenaline to the jugular. Yes that is what it is. Cinematic a cinematic cocaine or going to recap when. The comedian amassed vigil. Anti from a bygone eras killed by mysterious burglar outlaw. Vigilante worship is determined to find out who is killing x masked heroes so he warns his prior colleagues. His ex partner. Dan Aka a night owl. The smartest man in the world. Adri Invite Aka Ozzy Mantis the Superman Himself John Aka Dr Manhattan. Who can bend matter to his will and his girlfriend Lori Aka Soak Specter meanwhile the US in the US are on the brink of annihilating each other with nuclear warheads. The only thing deterring this is the existence of Dr Manhattan but when Laurie breaks up with him and a man accused him of spreading cancer to his loved ones on national television doctor. Manhattan grows tired of humanity and teleport's to Mars leaving the US vulnerable to a Russian attack. Someone makes an attempt on fights life and while investigating Rohrschack is set up and thrown in prison leaving night owl and so expect her to break him out. Lori is teleported to Mars to join Dr Manhattan where she tries to convince him to come back to Earth to save it from nuclear. War Nile in workshops investigation lead them to vice office where they learned that he was behind the people in John's life getting cancer so they follow him to his lab and article where they learn a horrific truth. Adrian has used Dr Manhattan's Energy Signature to set off devastating explosions in several major cities. Killing millions doctor Manhattan shows up to confront Adrian but he is now powerless to stop survive. Utopia from coming to life as now all the countries of the world are now banding together in their fight against Doctor Manhattan unwilling to compromise his moral position. Rohrschack leaves to tell the whole world of Adrian's plot but Dr Manhattan kills him before he can cause any further harm doctor. Manhattan leaves Earth and worshipped Journal detailing his suspicion of vite lands on the table of the new frontiers. Men Are Right Wing newspaper and of movie our guys before we go any further. 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Discussing the Show Masks (Spoiler Alert!)
"It struck me as somebody that is is pretty well versed in the in the graphic novel. The absolutely have done something like I say that extends stems from that work so you had this almost impossible task. You had to adapt in a sense. Something that you love and respect and probably idolize is getting a lot of people to yes but also then had to depart from it completely and make it something different. It had to be of it and apart from it. How did you negotiate that very carefully? Also completely totally haphazardly. I mean I think that it was a combination of the energy of a of a bowl in China shop and and then trying to catalog everything that you knocked over and broke so that you could replace it and both things had to happen simultaneously because I think that we went in With a high degree of fear and concern and delicate nece and then very quickly we were just like fuck all of that. Let's just go nuts. And then you had vacillate between those polls and the show sort of happened in the space where we were moving in between the polls because our job storytellers is to make something feel authentic to make could feel real and I wanted this television experience. Because it's not a comic book where you're turning the pages where illustrated cartoon characters I wanted to feel real real and authentic at the same time there's some true ridiculousness happening around the the fringes of this so the first thing that we did and And when I say we at the very beginning of this thing it was this guy. Jeff Jensen I and Jeff and I jeff was a reporter for entertainment weekly remember would write these crazy theories about lost cost under the pseudonym doc Jensen not not quite as soon because his last name is Johnson. Doc in front yes. He doesn't fraud easily easily from my understanding is he did not hold a doctorate in anything. Maybe lost in any way he and I collaborated on tomorrow and and did a lot of world building for that Disney thing but when the third time they came to me and said. Do you WanNa do watchmen and I started kind of feel the beginnings of a glimmer of what it would be about. I texted Jeff and I said I have two questions. The first question is like should there. Be a watchman TV show and then the second is should I do it and I think he responded depends ends and depends and then I was like yeah would you. Would you WanNa do it together. And then he came over and He was the first person that I really bounced a lot of these ideas off of and he and I put together. This list of adjectives A like almost like a recipe list of these are adjectives that we use to describe. The original watchmen. C'mon and if our version if we can check these same adjectives against it almost like a mad libs then than we maybe we earned the name and the first word on the list was original And so now there's this paradox were presented with which is. It's an adaptation of this thing. That already exists. How do you you make it original and I think the gaming of that paradox was still thinking about? Did we game but like that was really the challenge in front of us which was like how does this thing feel like. It's it's it's watchmen. But at the same time it could only feel like it's watchmen if it's taking huge risks when and it feels is like you. You're feeling nervous while you're watching it like A. I don't know what's happening and I don't like it and I don't know where this is going to go next and I'm a little bit scared and not it just scared where it's GonNa go narrative Lee but scared that it could jump the shark. When I read watchmen I could tell you? Twenty instances in over the course of those twelve issues shoes just took my breath away in terms of like. You aren't allowed to do that. I can't believe that just happened like my heart would be racing as I was reading. Thank those issues and to to to try to replicate that emotional sensation for the TV show. That's what we were chasing. Sometimes a we succeeded needed other times. Not but that was the brass ring we were all reaching for. So what we're talking about in many ways is the tone of watchmen and its ambition and and it's fearlessness. And when we begin your series right out of the gates it does seem like you hit those well. At least you hit the ambition and you hit the fearlessness. If watchmen the graphic novel was a meditation perhaps on the morality of heroism. It seems pretty clear from the beginning of your show so that your show is about race period the end it is about race. I want to ask you how much this emphasis on race from. The start was away for you to say not only. This show is the show about race. But I need you to know right now. It is about race Yeah I'M A I. I apologize in advance because I'm not really able to to answer that question articulately yet. And in many ways this my inability to articulate answer that question was replicated in the writer's room on a repeated basis and led to an incredible incredible of conversations. Both difficult in insertive revelatory of certainly from from my standpoint. But what I'll say. Is that the most difficult question and I think that a lot of writers have to answer. Where do you get your ideas from or what? What is a moment of inspiration like what's the flash point and and a lot of the man's to the the question the same way that I will which is like something just happens internally with that just like sort of clicks and slides into place and then at least I feel compelled to get it out out and most of the time for me? Those ideas don't like happen in the shower whereas like Oh this would be a cool idea for television show. It happens because I've read something or I'm listening running to something or I'm emotionally affected by something and essentially what was happening in my life was as the leftovers was ending and I was starting to kind of feel the panic of if I am not entirely sure that I'm ever GonNa WanNa do this again. I'm I'm not having any ideas. In watchmen is just coming at me for the third time. But it's watchmen and it's the you know for me. That's the you know. It's the Rosetta Stone. It's where all began for me. Maybe not the Rosetta Stone. Do More like the black monolith in two thousand one you know where stars yeah. It's it's full of stars quite literally perfect and and an intimidating and right at the time that they asked me the third time because that because they they'd they'd asked me two times is prior. You know once probably two thousand eleven just a couple years after Zack Snyder's movie and then again maybe in two thousand thirteen or twenty fourteen and now I'm thinking it's like twenty seventeen and and I'm placing this time around the time that Charlottesville is happening and I read between the world and many Tallahassee coaches book and I'll I'm just going to be honest with you I read the book because every single white progressive liberal in the in show business was like they say like this. If you read between the world have you read it like like the shame just like you so it's just like you have to read it. You really have to read it and so I was like this. Sounds like an astonishing piece of writing and it and it was when and when I read that. I also read case for reparations which was an essay that he wrote in the Atlantic a couple years? Probably before and in case for reparations which completely. It's both wildly intuitive. It's nothing that you don't already know but the way that it is written in the story that Mr Coates tells is like just changes ages changed the way that I saw the world. In in that essay he mentioned Black Wall Street Tulsa Twenty one and the way that he wrote about it it was just I I wanna say just three or four sentences or just a paragraph as you say it felt like the destruction of a world to me and at that time also Black Panther hadn't come out yet but it had been announced that Ryan Kugler was going to do it in Tallahassee. Coach was writing Black Panther and I was thinking about what Kanda and I was thinking that. If we're Kanda actually existed in the the real world if there was this place of African American exceptionalism I guess in the case of Kanda African exceptionalism but a place that we're only black people lived and they were the best scientists and it was utopia. If white people found out about this place they would destroy it. They burned to the ground. So all of those ideas were kind of like swirling around in my head and then I bought. This book called the burning about Tulsa twenty-one because because of having read and I was just astonished by this story on every single level most of all because I had never heard about it and I felt shame and embarrassment and I would talk to other people like I talked to people of Color and they go. Oh yeah and I talked two white people and they go. What and then I'd start explaining of? This is what happened and I would see them. Start to get feel embarrassed. And then and then disconnect which is what we do when we feel like? We're supposed to know something we don't know it and so all of that stuff was kind of swirling around in my head and the fundamental question that we were asking about doing watchmen is should we do it. And if so why now. And so I- reflected back on. The original watchmen set in one thousand. Nine hundred five of the came out in eighty six and although it takes place in an alternate version of of America it was dealing with a a nuclear standoff handoff between the USSR. America and and it's counting down towards inevitable nuclear destruction on both sides. That's what the that's what the heroes are solving for. It feels else that gets a murder mystery but unbeknownst to us what's really going on the answer to the murder mystery. He has done it is someone is actually trying to save the world world And and I was like so what. What's the big cultural anxiety? Now when you close the comic book and it stays with you and the answer was says. There's a reckoning happening in America as it relates to race. It's not to say that that reckoning wasn't happening during the civil rights movement where it wasn't happening in the the eighties or the nineties but right now as especially after Charlottesville and I remember very specifically Craig like when Charlottesville happened that there was this rhetoric that was happening around where people kept saying. I can't believe they're not wearing masks. They're not wearing masks anymore. The white supremacists are just out there and we can see their faces in shocking shocking. And so that was happening at the same time that. Hbo was saying do you. WanNa do watchmen show masks and I was like what are masks. You know like what happens when and you mix a mask with the administration of the law. That's the central idea of watchmen and then the KKK. Wears masks. And I'm starting to see protesters like Antigua's wary mass. This was long before Hong Kong. But it's like this idea of like covering your face is covering your face a justification for protecting in yourself or are you doing something that you probably shouldn't be or both and then all of that kind of went into the mix at the heart of it in the center of it. Is this remarkable the character that is not a carryover from watchmen but your invention Angela. Apr Sister
Disney, Disney Park And Official discussed on /Film Daily
"Wars rise the resistance. This is the second ride coming to Star Wars Galaxy said <hes> many people had assumed that it was going to be opening when the Land Open Disney announced that the land was opening with only one ride people were surprised and they thought that at this was just GonNa come later on in the summer but now with this announcement this opening date announcement it has shocked many people because it's delayed further than expected than what we now yes so rising the resistance which is being touted as what do they call it the most most immersive and advanced attraction ever imagined in the Disney park is the official description of this ride.
Robert Pattinson's Batman Films Are a Trilogy: It's Bruce Wayne in 'Detective Mode,' Says Director
"All right. So this one this story that, that I saw this week. I was very excited to bring into the show tonight, I found it, it, it's not an onion story. And I, particularly think it's hilarious. And you thought it was bad when they announced Ben Affleck, Robert Pattinson is officially the new Batman, the twilight actress set to play the Cape crusader in the Batman director, Matt Reeves film, scheduled for release in June of twenty twenty one Reeves was the filmmaker behind the last planet of the apes sequels athletes starting Batman in two titles directed by San by Zack Snyder Batman versus superman. Dawn of Justice in two thousand seventeen Justice league both films received mixed reviews and we're disappointment for Warner Brothers in its efforts to compete with marvel studios in the superhero. Realm patents in became a star following the breakout success of the five film, twilight franchise in which he portrayed. The vampire Edward Cullen opposite. Kristen stewart's. Bill Swann Jack, you're huge Batman fan, also now team Edwards. Well, okay. So Matt's of bigger, Batman fan than I am. I want to get to this in a moment, but I just had a conversation about this. Earlier today, one there was a great joke. Matt, you'll like this. And somebody said he's the worst vampire ever, because it took him ten years to turn into a bat. That is funny, and I have no problem with it all because the poor guy, I saw his stuff before he did twilight the hell of an actor and then he got pigeonholed into this awful, teeny Bopper, Rama thing that fortunately has given him this thing. He can't live down. So I'm gonna give him a shot. I have no problem with it as a giant Batman, nerd, only because Matt REEs, generally doesn't make crappy movies. So. As movies are really good. He did. Lord. He did the remake of let the right one in and actually generally really good. It's far as remix go, oh, those excellent. Yeah. I mean, he doesn't make bad movies for the most part. So I kind of trust his judgment, and he's he doesn't wanna do the over the top popcorn. Every five minutes and explosion type Batman movie. He wants to do a dark detective Noir story where you are showing Batman, using his skills, I've been wanting to see that in a movie for a really long time. So I'm okay with it. The guys at decent actor. Yeah. I don't know how to do is Bruce, Wayne. I think he'll do fine when he's in the costume you do. Yeah. I think it will. I think it'll be okay I trust Matt Reeves. I mean I don't. You never sold the twilight movies. I've only seen stuff he's done outside light, and it's always been fine.
Breaking Down 'Shazam!'
"Finds itself at an interesting inflection point. I would say I thought she was a very fun and entertaining movie, but it did not really feel like anything that had come in the DC universe before. And you kind of explain to me. What should I am is? And what it's trying to do. Sure. I mean, I kind of had the. To do the same thing after watching the movie because like right around the time the post credits scene with a evil Caterpillar happened. I was kinda like I've no idea what any of this stuff is. So thankfully, Mike does have a a piece on the ring dot com. A great website kind of breaking down the kind of Kazan origins. But yeah, he's he was actually originally called captain marvel and like in the movie there was like a wizard named 'schisms who gave him like all these superpowers. But when he sorta got folded into DC comics because marvel had its own captain marvel he then became Zam. But the whole spiel is basically the same thing like the wizards powers you activate it by saying Zam, and then I guess in the big conversion you just become buff, Zachary Levi. Yeah, I didn't even know buff Zachary Levi was going to be a thing that I would ever have to talk about. I can't say when I was watching Chuck ten years ago. That this ever crossed my mind that he would be a superhero, I think Tony Lee. This movie is pretty significantly different from superman vs Batman and the Justice league films and even wonder woman, which I thought was you know, is a very charming and obviously hugely successful movie. But there is a lightness in the tone, and it's not quite as operatic goofy. As was l-. You know, what did you make of the kind of movie that Sam was trying to be yet? No, I thought it was fun at kind of had like almost throwback Amblin entertainment coming of age vibe like something you'd see from like Amblin in like the eighties. But with the caveat that instead of a kid going on venture or something he can just become a superhero. But I thought it was a it was it was kind of an appropriate tone for for the kind of here that this guy is and I kind of like that, you know, a kid like a teenager becoming Kazan like he has like a bit of an aimlessness to him at the beginning. Like, there's not the sort of great power with great with great power comes great responsibility type speech. You just sorta has to learn things on the fly Yemen. One of the first things that the character does after he realizes his powers as he just goes to a convenience store in buys beer and candy. And you know, I it, you know, the movies clearly pitched as sort of what if big, but superhero, and it's very effective in showing us like maybe not with the real world ramifications would be because it's a little bit different in tone in the real world. But some of the like aspirations that you have as an adolescent, and the things that you wish you could do when you were thirteen sham does for the first hour of this movie, and the movie ultimately just becomes a story about like friendship and the way that we act bigger and older than we are. And what we can get away with in that time. And then it does turned into a little bit of a superhero movie. What did you make of the kind of balancing of those tones? Yeah. I mean, I think I did prefer sort of the the first half of the move. In that respect, as you know, there are so many superhero movies out there. And I think for the most part it's sorta gets derivative to when the movie gets the guy discovers his powers, you know, like Peter Parker, like scaling skyscrapers type of thing. But it was fun for Suzanne because it felt very like very genuine response. What if a fourteen year old kids suddenly had powers like, yeah? He would try to buy beer. He would go to script strip club in like beam about the chicken wings because this is a PG thirteen movie. You know, if he's in a world where superman Batman exists, and he doesn't really know. What to do is? You just if he can't find people to save is he just going to he's going to try to make cash and become a YouTube star. It was an interesting approach. But I think like I preferred that half of the movie versus like, the Mark strong shows up with seven CGI deadly sin, archetypes, or whatever. And it's time to punch him a lot. Yeah. I agree. I don't think part was active. It's funny because it feels like a movie like this, which is not exactly a reinvention. But is a is a reconsidering of what these kinds of movies can be still does arrive and its conclusion at the notion that needs to feature a lot of punching and a lot of fighting the bad guy. I'm curious to see if as we grow inside, the D C E U, I guess much like Zam. If they'll ever change the the the approach that they take having kind of the final showdown in the final forty five minutes of the movie that was also one of my struggles. Honestly with wonder woman, which I thought as I said was really clever and well made and then ultimately just turned into Diana fighting a demon monster who was played by David through Lous. What do you make of the decisions that DC is now making to singular is each of their movies? I mean, it's interesting because like, you know, they they did a pretty quick pivot from like fast-tracking their Justice league movie which end up being like relative to the expectations a bit of a bomb for them. Also, it didn't really track critically. But you know, they're kind of like making these films that have this very little interconnectivity like aquaman was only really playing the seeds for Auckland to and I guess a trench spinoff, which I could go on like a twenty minutes handed about the trench about the trend. Can't wait for the trench. And like kind of the same thing with wonder woman sequel in feels that way, which is. To you know, if it does well enough at the box office like affiliates just leading into sham two or maybe like a black atom movie, which is like a sham villain. That's supposed to be played by Dwayne Johnson. If you look at like the C projects that are in the air like a rebooted suicide squad, James Gunn, new bad movie. Perhaps a flash movie there's all these other projects like the one glaring omission is there are no plans to make like a Justice league to and not to say that would never happen again. But clearly like the D C you right now is content. Just kind of throwing stuff out there and seeing what resonates with audiences yet. If you look down there slate, we talked about this a little bit during the release of aquaman, but I was just in add an in Vegas at cinema Khan. And they were very proud of the approach that they were taking telling their stories because the next the next handful of movies. They have is of course, Zam, and you know, they also have joker which is coming in October. Which also feels quite standalone seems to have virtually nothing in common with the movie Lakesha Zam. And then there's also a birds of prey which is. Theon story of sort of five superhero team that will also include Margot Robbie Harley Quinn, and that totally and visually looks completely different from those other two movies. And so they've taken this decision to not just make that flash movie and not just make whatever inevitable green lantern movie. And with the same kind of stormy visualises that that Zack Snyder created, but to just kind of individually each story, which is what a lot of comic books are actually a lot of comic books have separate illustrators. They have separate writers their tones are quite different amazing spider. Man could be quite different from x men and superman could be quite different from, you know, detective comics, and what's going on with that, man. And of course, I guess next year late next year. We'll have the Batman which Matt Reeves Batman movie. Do you know, your your very closely track the comp films for us is it more interesting to you of all of this the fits together or do you like it better? If it stands alone and the movies get to be what they are. Well, I. Kind of like maybe I just have a bit of a marble fatigue. Just because it feels like we've been preparing for endgame like just just forever. But yeah, I kind of like this approach because you know, like, if something doesn't, you know resonate with with audiences like I personally wasn't as big of a fan as as wonder woman as other people were which is fine. You know, I I like parts of it. But, but you know, for the most part people really enjoyed it. And I think you know, it's an interesting approach. I think what will probably be most interesting is with wonder woman command and Zam they've all been pretty well received. And they've made a good amount of money. I'm curious what happens like how the DC EU responds when something flops with critics audiences in the box office. Do they like shake it off? Or if it's like, if it's bracing a certain tone, like, you know, let's say joker is actually quite terrible. And and you know, it's like a Scorsese prestige that. Just kind of doesn't work like will the DC you kinda void being that experimental. Again. I I'm curious to see what happens when there's kind of like a speed bump on the road for them. I am too is an interesting question because it does seem like in with Shas AM and most likely joker and handful of these other movies. They don't come with that two hundred and fifty million dollar production price tag. You know, they're definitely smaller movies with more modest ambitions, at least in terms of the execution of the movie. And so the risk is lower. So if let's say joker is not the sort of world-beating, cultural colossus that many would have us believe this week. That's okay. I think that they could probably survive that. And it's an you're right. It is a really interesting pivot away from all of that interconnectiveness. Is there anything else about his that you you really liked and you responded to? Yeah. I really like that, you know, I thought Zachary Levi was was just so good at like kind of capturing basically like, you know, a kid in a swollen dealt spot ended it so well like there were times where you almost felt to childlike for guy who's still like fourteen years old, but you could tell he was just having such a blast. And and yeah, I would have never expected Chuck would be like a swollen superhero. But I never expected Jim from the office to like, you know, make some hard movie also become buffer like Michael bay film. So I I guess, you know sick. I'm stars. They can transform. Yeah. Could you cast a sitcom debauche sitcom figure into into a superhero movie right now is there? Anybody springs to your mind? Is Jim Parsons our next. Green lantern. You think? Oh god. No, no. I'm trying to think of like if someone from parks and rec ado that transformation that isn't Chris Pratt. Because I mean, he's he's just forget about this point. He's he's like a discount printing. Frazier. But he he has done that as well. I mean, I guess maybe if if Adam Scott were cast as as galactic that would probably that. That's as close as we're gonna get
"zack snyder" Discussed on Lights Camera Barstool
"Yeah. But it comes down to I think. Like going out of his way to kill an enjoyment in killing two it just the wagon the way the cared was portrayed is just something. I don't think people up, and that's that's what it was portrayed. That's fine. But it's the anger back from him that again that bothered me. And that's the same thing with Michael bail. Michael bay transformers. It's like dude you can't start making these fucking movies and then get all bothered patrol patrol daughter. Nuts. Nuts right word when when the. Yeah. Sure observance what it is. When the actual fans get mad at you. Right. Like, but you're you can make whatever you want and Mike draw. You said is a great point like I'm fine with in his world Batman killing. But justifying it that way, I'm not finding felt like it. But I'm fine with that being his portrayal, but don't go get angry about it. And like tell people wake the fuck up. And this is the character of liked for years their whole lives. Like, that's just not at all what was portrayed in the comics. Like, it just wasn't them. And did not kill in the comics. He I think that's an unfair comparison because all Michael bay. Really cared about was the Mercedes Benz logo being used side. And. Or piece too big robot? You definitely took it a Snyder ticket wants to when he had Batman teabag Ridler after blowing his brains out with a quick scope gotta say that was that was the moment for me that Batman got the Riddler up on a ledge whereas character glitched out, and he just he just cheesed him with some some quick jabs over and over until the CARA. Oh, jeez. I don't know. You can't really do that secure. Oh, I don't know if that's a secure reference or no. But we've all we've all cheesed a boss, right? When he had the Batman build the the penguin into into the storm that was my least favorite part hated the batmans Opie Zack Snyder must Nerf immediately. The battering full games of battering damage drop off now goes from forty to thirty eight. He also talked about the vendors and how he likes the vendors movies and like the characters killing that too. Because there in defense fence what about iron man, but I'm kills people as the best ironman like Tony stark killed me. First of all he made fucking weapons before he became ironman kill people for years. But so like, I I know we should on. Our guy snack side are all the time. But for that. I don't think he's wrong in some respects. But like that's always been my issue when the creators go after fans who are being reasonable. I just you know, you got to have a little sensitivity there. Even the extent with Star Wars some point except for when people go after in a way, that's not reasonable. So that sex was just up on stage. Like, okay, I'm doing superheroes. With ask me questions about legend of the guardians house of ghoul. Yes. The guardians who'll guys the legends of the guardians. The als of good who'll wait. What wait hope the als of good who'll who? Who'll who you make an L joke. You got it. The score. I mean that we could be the score is composed by David Hirschfeld in Adam young from L city. Play into that tough. God, that's amazing. Guardians of goal. Else? Think of other things the produce L thing the site used to go on his kid now the the writing lab. Yeah. Never when people would pose links on Twitter in the short would be alley. Yeah. That's right while throwback for you can post pictures. Yeah. All right. We have some quick news. It's after we gotta get into our us for people..
"zack snyder" Discussed on /Film Daily
"Remember, he flips all those cars with the guns. That's all. They're there for Peter. Okay. Actually interesting because the Batman no kill thin camp out because of all the restrictions. The government put in place against comics in the fifties. Following all these censorship outcries? So rather than you know, just have Batman suddenly stop murdering they built into the character. They doesn't murder in these days eve as grim as Batman comics are all these days, and they're really grim. It's such a cornerstone of the character, you know, even post Burton Burton. So it's just it's so strange to hear this still because it's been, you know, sixty years is Batman has not been a murderer burns limb person ever go out that path that it's so strange to me. Well, I mean, it seems like Saks netter was trying to create his whole other version of the D C. The universe. And he also made this other quote, this other comment about his original plans for that Martha scene. Chris it tell us about it. I I I know it's it's almost too hard to believe this. I if I need to hear it come out of your mouth, this is this is really wild. So I he went off a little spiel defending the infamous scene in Batman v superman where Batman is seconds away. From just straight up murdering superman and superman, you know, asks Batman to save Martha which is his mother and batmans mother, of course, was also named Marsha. You know, there's Martha Kent that Superman's mom, and there's Martha Wayne, that's batmans. Bob and superman saying that makes Batman realize like oh, superman has a family, and blah, blah, blah. I've been wrong this whole time. That's an okay idea in theory. But the execution is really bad, and we're all still laughing about it. So during the same event Zack Snyder, I he defended that. Apparently, he revealed that there was originally a much crazier idea about this where it turns out that after Martha Wayne got shot in crime alley which you know, is of course, the famous Batman origin story where his parents get gunned down batmans dead died, but Bartha Wayne survived and she was put in the witness protection program in Kansas at which point she became Martha Kent under assumed identity. And then, you know, she found superman in the field or whatever after he crashed earth and raised him as her son. So there's going to be this twist. Where after superman reveals his mother is named Martha Batman learns that they're like a brothers, essentially, they have the same mother. And boy, I wish he had done that because that would have been just even more crazy, and I would love to see the reaction to that. Oh my God. The outrage would've been insane. There's so much wrong with. This. Why wouldn't Martha Wayne leaf traumatize son alone be raised by the Butler? Why would why why I mean, you know, to to give Zach sired the doubt, we don't know the whole thing because we don't have the script. Maybe in this version of the story. She thought her son was dead. I don't know why they would put her at the police protection program and not tell her son was alive. I don't know. I'm trying to be nice wouldn't hear about Bruce, Wayne from you You know know..
Zack Snyder Returns to Movies After Stepping Away from Justice League Due to Daughter's Suicide
"Excuse me, according to the Hollywood reporter the movie is set to start filming this summer. And more news Snyder announced his decision to step down from Justice league in emotional interview with HR where he also revealed that autumn had died two months earlier in March two thousand seventeen and the he initially went back to work to after her death. He later realized it wasn't what was best for him and his family, and my mind, I thought it was a cathartic thing to go back to work to just bury myself into see if that was. If that was way through it that was a way through it Stanton. Toni T HR the demands of this job are pretty intense. It is all consuming and in the last two months, I've come to the realization decide to take a step back from the movie to be with my family be with my kids who really need me. They are all having a hard time. I'm having a hard time. The director later thanked fans for the support on Twitter after they announced. Thanks for the appointed support. I can't express how much it means to Debbie. An I an honest mother Denise at such difficult times that row automates his daughter from his first marriage to the niece Neider. So that's my story on returning. So we're happy is going to be doing a movie or net flicks. I wish he would come back to DC. Yes. I do. Yes. I do. I wish I could get the Zach Snyder cut the Justice league film. Yes, I do. You're supposed to be two parts. I'm not gonna I'll just start getting agitated let me let it go. So happy that he's back and still goes out to them having to bear your child guy be one of the rougher stays in the world. So our condolences still Mr. Snider, but we're glad you get to work. And I'm looking forward to seeing your new film. Netflix with the chain your wife are making when you when you release it. So. And yes, I like Batman versus superman and I love manner steel. Yeah. I said it more entertainment news after this break. Let's say you just bought a house. Bad news is your one step closer
'Twilight Zone' Reboot Gets Supersized April 1 Premiere at CBS All Access
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‘Aladdin’ Producers Set ‘Lilo & Stitch’ Live-Action Remake at Disney
"But most of the live action Disney adaptations have been of like the Walt Disney classics. And this is the first it's kind like not like one of those beloved fairytale stories that they're trying to adapt. I guess, lady and the tramp isn't a fairytale story either. But you know, every time I go to Disneyland, the stitch merchandises like out of control there is like they sell so much merchandise based on that movie I, it was only a matter of time before this is going to happen. I can imagine that stitch will be like a CG creation and we'll have a young, Hawaiian star kind of I almost picture kind of like, you know. It would being optimistic here, Chris, but I think if done right, this could be like a fun mwana. I've action kind of movie, I guess. I mean, yeah, there's material is there to do something good. It's just, I don't know. I'm just getting. This film was so recent. There's really no reason for Disney to remake it. I don't know why they're so hell bent them. I mean, I know why they wanna make money, but. It's getting a little tiresome. There's remaking everything, but there's definitely the chance this could turn out. Well in the movie has such great style has some good music, but it doesn't really have a strong story, Brad. Do you have any connection with Leland Stitcher? You excited for live action remake. I really liked to Leila Wednesday, which when it came out, it's not one of my favorites or anything like that. But I think that it's it's pretty funny and I can see where it had the potential for like maybe like an Amblin kind of style live action movie because it had has flares t. and things like that. But it's also a little bit bigger and more cartoony than that because you know, there's the
"zack snyder" Discussed on Double Toasted
"Let's see here. Hey, gang. This is Zack Snyder, Robin. Zack Snyder, Robin says Zaks is that gets, hey, gain. Just wanted to know Martin's inquiry abilities if they know about this opinion on the recent reveal that the Robin featured in Batman versus superman was opposed to be degraded and nut Jason, tie as we previously thought anything about their weight, their Robin. The costume. I feel like that's a non covers like, okay, don't don't worry about right. Right. Jason Todd. Sure, sure. It's always Jason Todd. Yeah, joker kill studios. I'll tell you Rita. Got shit, fuck and cares. I was thank you. I'm not trying to be ruled. This this. I've read that a who gives a shit dot com. Like I said before, two hundred for the sports. Thank you. That's deep nerdy. It doesn't make the movie any better or worse, going back to bed, man, vs superman way that's whole. Just as somebody just want to ask somebody just wanna ask a question and just they just have to look up and just. Would be on TV. Gotta keep. I'm john. Say, we'll wait. Here, Batman versus superman. This is resting. Yeah, you got big. This we're gonna get out of this. This is a good question though. So pull this up right here. Young by what's up collider fans thought that was the trailer, but it is not. The Andy circus I'll go and read it. The trailer, man. What are your thoughts? Brothers, Andy circuses adaptation of Moog -ly. Based off the jungle book being delayed until next year and released only on Netflix smarter. And it says with Netflix have in the worldwide rights to the film. And they say that with plans to release the movie and three d. in select theaters because a lot of scenes shot in three d. So yeah, the pull and Netflix getting except for those few theaters are gonna show some parts and three that deeply saddens me because I know create don't like the movies going to Netflix because I get very. But also today when we saw the Christopher Robin movie in theater, they were playing this in the lobby loud. They're playing this trailer. Yeah, it's still TV. He's too. It really like I was in the bathroom and I could hear it at first. They recognize what it was about sticking damn, whatever is good too, because. You know, we, we expect you to do some change the jungle jungle book, and I went out and watched some on the monitor and thinking shit. This looks good. I'm actually looking forward to this one of brothers actually pull the trailers from some sites think mainly sites, but mogul is the one that looks like the darker jungle book. Guess what was like, man, why y'all doing this again, every time I, I watched this trailer. I'm like, yeah, bring it. Story about the junk. Kings case like this. Scratched..
"zack snyder" Discussed on The Jock and Nerd Podcast
"And that's so great that is the best part of one of the best things i've ever seen in animated movies or movies in general you can't argue with both sides really you know it's one of those situations where both characters believe in the heart of hearts that they're right and you can sympathize with both of them yeah what rain is one of those that's why like when zack snyder makes batman killer it's like you really just don't get this character at all no because this movie typifies batmans character to a t like he gets pushed into a situation where it's an impossible situation impossible decision right either he's either avenge robin's death or he can stick to his morals either way you agree with the he could be right yeah there's is so much more pay those to have him be tortured on on the fact that he couldn't kill the joker he just can't right and robin or jason todd makes a very valid point not only did he he's killed innocent people he's escaped jail but he killed him like he killed he killed robin like kill the kill me and you drive in and you tell your son yeah and you still don't kill him he's still missing way deeper in way that's way deeper than like making fucking batman killer like yeah yeah yeah i mean that's that's all character and it's hard it's not challenging him physically it's challenging his his core is identity well yeah not only that but like he can never win batman can't ever really get that closure because he's going to let the fucking bad guys live and he's gonna have to fight them another day and it's this thing where you know he'd never actually gets that satisfaction of ending the that guy's life.
"zack snyder" Discussed on Voices Film & Television – A Blog Dedicated To Reviewing, Critiquing…Celebrating The World Of Film & Television
"Shout shout. Let it all out say so. This is actually something that i was reading. A zack snyder actually said on taking a break from justice league go. He says because of his daughters. Okay here's here's the thing. I never planned to make this public. I thought it would just be in the family a private matter. What the suicide he. I guess so our private sorrow that will that we would deal with when it became obvious that i need to take a break. I knew there would be narratives created on the internet. They'll do what they do the truth. I'm past caring about that kind of thing. Now said so. Then it says here. On directing justice league. The demands of this job are pretty intense. It is all consuming. He told the publication. I decided to take a step back from the movie to be with my family with my kids. Who really need me. They're all having a hard time. I'm having hard time. How the hell could he not being right. And then it says on stepping down as direct on justice league after his daughter's death. Yeah i want the movie to be amazing. And i'm a fan but that all pails pretty quickly in comparison he said. I know the fans are going to be worried about the movie but there are seven other kids. That need me in the end. It's just a movie yet. good for him. It's a great movie but it's just a movie while it was a great movie or we'll never see his great moving. Yeah unfortunately but he's right. Now i feel so fucking selfish. Well but what a dick i am. Part of it is that you're worried about Legacy right exactly zero yup. His name is on this movie. And it's his doesn't sitting there saying it'll be a great movie before he knows about the travesty. That happened to like what they just tore it apart. You know this is not what got released is not what he what he walked away from. That's not what he thought was going to happen. I don't think so so. I don't know god. Bless axe nighter and his kid. So yes seven children. Yeah he has seven kids some Some of them are adopted. Some of them were adopted. This one was adopted Believe right yeah. The name autumn autumn. Yeah maybe we should talk about her. Just fucking out there. And like i say that God bless them in I i just fucked up and you know. It's a horrible situation. I i know i don't know i don't know snot me. Yeah yeah there's more important things. I guess exactly. Well okay so fifty. One years old looks great. He does look great. He does a great and he's so fucking talented well. I'm sure this took a lot of his time. I'm sure that that's probably part of the stress that he went through that it took so much of his time. I mean i. I don't know is that i'm much i don't know it's like a lose lose situation. There's no pale in comparison to the child's does so that's that's it. I guess on that note. Let's yeah let's get out of our selfish skin and move on because yeah is the is the is the A that thing the petition is that selfish. I'm not sure maybe people aren't sure. How much of what zach is saying about like it's out of his you know like maybe warner brothers or something you know like you said we're all gonna speculate maybe there's more to it than this and if there is were zach site whatever it is like his movie come out of the and let's see what he did his vision because it's it's everything in the in the first two films is going to be lost but he says if the story doesn't continue with his speculate about what exactly speculate about stuff like what we're doing now like we nobody really knows what took what transpired between warner brothers zach. We know what happen happen. And we know that. Joe sweden came in and finish the film or whatever. We don't want to end whatever he did right. We don't know to the extent But he is director. Who's been filming comic book films and this does have a feel. This film has a feel like it's his work doesn't have a feel like it's acts work but if this is what we have this is what we have i don't know will be doing next but obviously he's probably not thinking about that right now. Anyway god bless him and his family. It was bet. I think it was bastardized by it. It seems that way. I think that the movie was bastardized..
"zack snyder" Discussed on Voices Film & Television – A Blog Dedicated To Reviewing, Critiquing…Celebrating The World Of Film & Television
"We got a lot going on here. Now talk to me about you. Know what this song's make anything of. Tell me this whole debacle over the The justice league film. What's going on. So i have. I actually have a confession to make. Yeah i went to see justice league again now. I'm talking about the first time we i haven't spoken to you Since but when. I when i after i saw the film yeah i kinda liked it. You and i spoke well. We didn't speak about it. And i'm gonna talk to you about what this is. What's happening here. Because when i spoke to you about it we weren't on the air. I haven't seen you since i saw that. We didn't talk about it on the list. Pod no okay. No no justice league. We may have spoken about it coming up. But we didn't speak about the film that i saw We talk about so. I actually wanted to love this movie. Sure because i've been waiting for it. And i'm such zack snyder fan. I just i. he has me. He has me with his visuals. He has me with his dramatic approach to storytelling. Sure any has me with everything he's ever done. And don't get me wrong sucker. Punch you know isn't isn't a great film. It's got some cool. He has enough going on my favorite. He had a vision. As far as me walking out of justice leading trying to convince myself that i liked the movie okay The reason why i liked it was because i saw scenes in it that were very zach and whenever whenever i see his work i feel something. Like a mike. That's ac okay. I don't care what anybody you can say and we are. You know there's been tragedy throughout this. The filming of this film which i was not aware of which bothered me i. I wish i had known some of that. But i didn't know any of i didn't know what had gone down and it's also a good that there wasn't that much wearing because Aspect of you know. I will say. Zack snyder's daughter. Committed suicide awful and awful men. Obviously the less may talked about it the better. Because it's just i didn't know about edna. Yeah i can't imagine either. My you know when i heard about it and my heart just breaks. She's us. I mean what the fuck is that like terrible but going forward now Yeah i don't we. We don't really know one hundred percent the details of the inner workings of these studios in the politics that go behind it. But we do know that. Deborah snyder is zack. Snyder's wife she is a producer on the film right. I'm not sure how much power that they were exercising at the end of this whole thing because the filmmaking went over from his hands into right marvel directors hands. Josh josh sweden. Not cool but it would you know. I don't know what's not cool about in mice and having movie would it seems like after seeing the film which the film does resemble something. That's trying to be a marvel film but at the same time is breaking apart from being a dc film. So it's like it's almost like a film that's fighting itself to it's two different things. You can feel something missing. There's no depth. You like. Did i and i really like i was saying i was making a I was admitting that. I tried to love it. I tried to love it. Yeah and really what. I walked out liking. We're certain scenes that the feel like snyder like know. Just you were there to see us snyder. Move that's what. I want something else. And it's it's glitzy and it's too it's like you're not even taking a guy that's got a vision that even somewhat similar to see later. Yeah it's i'm you know. The guy has his roots in comic books but he is working on marvel film. He's working and they are against look convert which marvel versus dc. Let's be honest it. That's what it seems like. I mean. I wish it wasn't what i do. Enjoy is the two different tones when i wanna see marvel film. I'm oh i'm cool with that. I enjoy watching film right. Thor rag knock a lot of fun and delighting really enjoy watching the film. You know batman versus superman. I love that movie. i've watched it numbers of. I can't stop watching it to be honest. i think it's just fantastic. I think it's amazing. Directors cut i. Just think is work. They did such disservice to him. So now. here. They are probably taking the studios. Probably taking a lotta shit like deal. Look what's going on over there at marvel making like five hundred million. Every time they put out a movie. I heard maybe we should make our movies a little. Funnier dude i heard in the trailer of the infinity war. That was what i had heard the trailer of infinity. War made it look like. Dc's dead die. Haven't seen the trailer. I would look good. I honestly i don't know what that means that somebody said that dc is dead because the main character the main furniture a guy Looked like a cartoon cameras to say. Dan buffa buffer senate. I saw your thing buffer year review and you said that the the trailer made it. Look like the dc universe dead I can't quote you exactly here. But she said something like it made it look like the dc universe had had nothing. Or something. I don't even know what that means really well. He was like oh because he was. This is what moss it seemed like. There is a war between these two companies or the these fans. I mean i mean obviously know you cannot What's the word i'm looking for. Compare these heroes to each other in their worlds Superman an alien all powerful hundred planet yet batman a regular guy fighting crime just like any way he can. I love week that they have on. Just these two characters alone. show me. what are we going to do. What are we talking about tony. Stark we talking about the t you know they have on. Both of these. Two characters are dark characters films. That zach has made reflect these characters you know we did have a nice version of superman and we also had a problem back. Then the donner cut remember. Of course come on look. It's like a rehashing of history. It is. They took his cut and made so and someone else got it. Someone else put their name on and they changed it. They took part two out of his hands. He had a he had a. Don't even get me started on that. But yes you're history repeating itself right now. So i mean i'm wondering if like marvel. I mean Dc was like i mean warner brothers. I'm sorry we will bring joss weeden movie and we'll make four hundred five hundred million. I don't know if that's what happened. I don't get that. But i do feel like zack. Snyder.
"zack snyder" Discussed on Voices Film & Television – A Blog Dedicated To Reviewing, Critiquing…Celebrating The World Of Film & Television
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"zack snyder" Discussed on Overthinking It Podcast
"Our our phallic necessarily but that there is something about this kind of singlemindedness of those kinds of restrictions i mean the other one is it is interesting that jumped out in your list was noman'sland ray and it is land but she's not a man so g so she she goes into the landing in human i would and i'm just waiting for that line and i think it showed admirable restraint in the script not for that like no man can cross into you know into the other trench and you just wanted to look at them and be like well good thing i am no man right leg and that's not that that would be bad thousands died in other piece of restraint there and and and use able to resonate without being said which is again the devil a first for the current incarnation of the dc universe rate which is more often is the inverse where things are said and they go re resonate at all right ever ever in the dc universe little things are telling us what to do you know they're telling has yet to think zack snyder what had had her say that line and then there have been like slow pan upper leg in like little bell her graf she should in that seem one she's a sending from the trench into noman'sland light but camera does like linger not unlike that kind of male gave away again to the point of being a female director right but it looks lovingly upon her like red farmer boots and then other parts of her regalia and than when we get to see her um in in full display in in the trenchant that is a triumph that moment and it speaks to like you know the.