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Jesus and Jollof

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Luvvie Dropping in on the Jollof Warriors

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NEW: Bulat the Brave

Mythology

00:00 sec | 6 months ago

NEW: Bulat the Brave

"Hi Listeners Vanessa. First and foremost I'd like to take a moment to thank you for listening to podcast like you. We've had to make some major adjustments to adapt to these unprecedented times but with your loyalty and the podcast staff. We've been able to do so. We thank you for your patience and with that I'm pleased to announce that there will be no more interruptions to you're listening experience due to cove in nineteen. We're bringing you all new episodes today and for the foreseeable future from all of us here at podcast. We hope that you and your families are safe and healthy. Thank you again for your patients. We hope you enjoy these new episodes something to note. All myths have many versions and variations for this episode. We've selected those. We felt to the most dramatic and entertaining and supplemented them with additional research into Russian traditions. Because mythology comes from oral tradition there's a wide variety across sources are midst may not always be the version. You're familiar with but we hope you'll enjoy them. As a baby Prince Yvonne Syringes nursemaid's sang him lullabies nursery rhymes. But they also sang to him. The woman that he would one day web. She even had a name. The beautiful vessel Lisa Cure Beit Aetna. Yvonne heard their song each evening listening to his destiny as he grew into a young man. A young man who soon felt stuck within the palace walls he wanted to see the world and more importantly he wondered how he would meet. And marry the Great Vanessa Lisa if he remained at home forever after finally receiving his father's permission. Yvonne set out into the world accompanied by two palace guards. He had a prophecy to fulfill but prince. Yvonne was naive. He was not ready for the hardships of the world beyond the palace he didn't make it far. Before encountering a site debt shocked him in the villages Market Square. A handsome man was leaning over a cart with his pants around his ankles. A merchant stood behind him raising a whip into the air. He brought it down hard onto the handsome man's buttocks Yvonne was passing by with his guards and winced at the sound but the handsome man merely laughed. Yvonne's mouth fell open at the man's bravado. He had thought of himself as brave and strong not only that he was adept at sword play. He had trained extensively in the palace yards. But seeing this man laughing in the face of torture made him realize he wasn't as strong as he thought and then the man spoke with me. All you like merchant. It will not put those coins. You speak into your pocket into hurry. I must journey to the Thrice Tint Kingdom blew out. The brave does not take kindly to delays. Yvonne stared at Bulat in Awe. The thrice tenth kingdom was a place he knew. Well it was the land his nursemaid's had sung about the land where his future wife lived. It was the very place that he sought. He looked at the merchant. Whatever this man does I will pay he. Show come with me. Welcome to mythology apart. Cast original every Tuesday. We present dramatic stories from ancient mythology and explore their origins. I'm your host and Narrator Vanessa. Richardson you can find all episodes of mythology and all other podcast originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to stream mythology for free on spotify. Just open the APP and type mythology in the search bar at par cast. We're grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and instagram at par cast and twitter at podcast network. Today we're exploring the adventures of Bulat. The brave as he helps a naive prince fulfil prophecy though Bulat S- heroics are the backbone of the story. This Russian folk tale is really about the unlikely friendship that blossoms between two very different men. Russia is a vast land and it's winters are harsh. Russians are a hardy bunch who braved these lethally cold months by stockpiling for the winter retreating into their homes and enjoying food and drink but winter is also a time for stories. Russia boasts an enormous collection of stories and tales. These were traditionally told as epic poems passed down within families. Rarely were. They written down not until the nineteenth century did this folklore begin to appear in text. These stories fall into a variety of categories from supernatural myths usually centered around the famed Russian. Character Bob Yoga to moral stories about everyday people learning a lesson. Russia's folklore cannons seems to have a story for every life situation you might encounter but the most common story is that of the humble hero from a low social class rising up to victory alongside and ignorant but fair king. This is perhaps because folklore in Russia was born from its farmers and lower class commoners. Their perspective is what guides their heroes and frames their tails one. Such tale is that of Bulat. The brave Bulaq is an adept warrior from a lower class than his companion Prince Yvonne. But rather than this being a hindrance melot is able to impart Wisdom Street. Smarts and courage to the sheltered. Prince Prince von paid an angry merchant to free. Bulat the brave after Hearing Gulag mention the Thrice Tenth Kingdom. It was a place. Yvonne new well as a small boy. He'd been told his future wife. Vassily secure beate ever lived there. He decided that they're meeting must have been a stroke of fate upon being freed from the whipping post where the merchant had bound him. Bulat casually swung a muscular arm around Yvonne and led him to the stable. Yvonne's two guards ten at Buhl. Lots forward NECE. But Yvonne held up a hand to stay them he had just met Goullot but evonne couldn't help but trust this confident man. The two strode out of the guards earshot entered the stable. I thank you for your charity. Young Prince. How did you know I was a prince? No commoner would wear such garb and tote to surly men in his wake. They looked back at the guards and shared a laugh but Bulat grew serious as he looked Yvonne up and down Bulat had been a fierce warrior for many years and his military pursuits brought him too many lands. He'd seen people from all walks of life and was rarely surprised. But Yvonne's Naievety and gentle nature had sparked something within him. He leaned into the young prince and whispered a proposition. There are those that say not to accept a penny if you do not give something in return so please ask me what you will and I will grant it. I heard you are going to the Thrice Tenth Kingdom. Is it true? Yes let land is prosperous. I have been a soldier all of my days and I am looking for a place to settle down a home. What do you ask this? I was told as a child that my love resides there boo. Lots eyebrows raised at this news. A prophecy the air felt thick with fate. He gazed at this thin nervous. Young man in front of him before glancing at the guard's that flanked him. Suddenly everything felt clear. And you emerged from your palace for the first time to find. Her is that so yes principal. I know where your love is and I can take you to her for. Oh you a debt. But we go alone. Yvonne hesitantly looked back at the guards. He had not been pleased that his father had assigned him guards. In the first place it felt like he was being tended to by nursemaid's he wondered if Vesa Lisa would be filled with disdain when she saw he needed guards to watch over him but with the courageous Bulat. The brave is side. He would surely look valiant. He nodded at Bulat and received a devilish grin in return choice. Now choose a horse but none of these deeds our mind. Bulat had already mounted a horse and was galloping from the stable understanding lots intention. Yvonne scrambled atop Silky Black Mare and dug his heels in with a thrilled smile on his face. Yvonne followed Bulaq past the guards out of the village and into the world beyond Yvonne Road Behind Bulat through the fields of Russia. They passed more villages than he'd seen in his lifetime. They Crested Mountains and galloped past lakes. Finally they arrived at an immense castle. A tower dominated the view. It's facade cluttered with windows. The son had begun to set. Within a tower window. Candlelight emitted a faint glow and the silhouette of a woman could be seen we are in Syracuse Kingdom and that is his favorite daughter Muscle Lisa cure yet AETNA. He will not let go of her easily. How is it you know all of this? A soldier travels good soldier listens. A great soldier remembers. I know these lands better than anyone. I know who lives where who wants? What's and what terrors lurk nearby ready to take anything that we do. We are not the only ones who seek bustle Lisa. Once we retrieve her we must be careful. Bulat led the two men to a nearby village and instructed Yvonne to buy goose from a market stall they would use this bird to tempt the princess but by the time they returned to the castle Yvonne had become nervous. Bulat sensed his anxiety and placed a gentle hand on the young Prince's shoulder he would go when retrieve the bride for this quivering. Young Man Bulaq Road to the castle with goose under his arm. He smiled as he neared. This had begun as a way to repay von for his generosity but he now realized what fun he was having. He reached the first floor window. A bus Elisa's tower and confidently knocked on the pain. A moment later. Vassily Lisa herself pushed the window open and looked down at Bulat. Still atop his mare she was young and quiet. A reserved woman. Her intelligent is looked at goose in. Buhl lots arms and narrowed. What trickery is this no trickery my lady I simply wish to know if you have any drink despair? I have caught dinner but a less. I have nothing to wash it down with Vesa. Lisa looked suspicious but after a brief hesitation she disappeared inside. She reappeared holding a glass of vodka out to Bulat he reached for it but instead of taking the vodka his hands clasped around her wrist. Keep pulled her from her window and onto the back of his horse before she could struggle. He dug his heels into his mounts hindquarters. The horse took off. Vasa LISA resisted but it was not until they reached the end of the would that she managed to push herself off the horse. She hit the ground but stood quickly dusting herself off their you. My father will notice me missing and have you killed. Forgive him. It was me who asked Bulaq to fetch you muscle. Lisa looked over to see Yvonne stepping out from behind a tree. Though she was filled with fury she found her rage. Fading despite being ripped from her tower abode. She suddenly had an uncanny sense that she was at home. Greetings my lady. I am Prince Yvonne Savage. I do know that name for I've been told of your existence. All of my life there is locked in a passionate gays and ballade smiled. His debt was repaid and true love was ignited but his smile soon. Faded a small army of fifty men was swiftly approaching from the castle. Masa Lisa I believe. Your father has noticed. You're missing up next vessel. Lisa's father pursues his treasure daughter. Now back to the story Bulat. The brave had repaid his debt to Prince Yvonne by uniting him with his love. Vesa Lisa but no sooner had the two lovers connected then bustle. Lisa's father. The czar had realized she was missing Bulat and Yvonne watched as the czar led an army toward the edge of the woods where they had gathered. They scrambled atop their horses but vesa hesitated. She had only just met these men in fact they had stolen her from the life. She'd always known but her father had kept her hidden from the world in a tower and it was not a life she wished to return to she'd always dreamed of her future. Prince and here he was she would be a fool not to go with adventure in her heart she leaped onto the back of. Von's Mare and the trio took off down the road. The group was small and outpaced the army that followed but Bulat knew it was only a matter of time before the czar caught up to them. He slipped a ring from his finger and hit it amongst his clothes. Yvonne my lady you go onward. I have lost my ring and I must find it but the army is after us. How could you possibly to not be foolish? If it's a ring you need then here. I have one. You can take my lady take your ring back. That ring I have lost was my mother's and one never wants to forget. Their mother with a wink. Bulaq turned his horse around and galloped in The Opposite Direction Blue. Lots horse pounded the dirt road. It wasn't long. Before the army appeared rushing towards him rather than slow Bulat urged his horse onward. It was a foolish action for one man to take on an army but as Bulat raised a sword and let out a cry. It was clear that he was no average man. Bulat burst into the thick of the men felling one soldier after another. He was an unstoppable force and even though severely outnumbered he showed no signs of slowing down does are watched his army being slaughtered. He was so astonished he could not even lift his sword to fight back as boo lot ran his last man through Bulaq. His face streaked in blood looked up at the czar. So far I am a warrior. I may not come from noble blood but loyalty and steals a fierceness. Within me I fight in the name of principal. Bon who has just claimed his rightful bride. Go back to your kingdom if you do not you may meet again and suffer the same fate as your men. The czar trembled with rage but also with fear. He gave a respectful nod and then returned to his kingdom defeated. Bulat turned back the way he came stopping briefly at stream to wash the blood from his face and clothes. He did not want vessel Lisa and Yvonne to be alarmed at the sight of him. By the time Bulat Return to vessel Lisa and Yvonne. Night had fallen. They had set up camp in the woods at the edge of the thrice tenth kingdom and Vesa. Lisa was cooled up by the fireside. Fast Asleep Yvonne stood as Bulava peered grateful to see his comrade alive and well and he signed if the roads were clear my friend it seems the maidens father will trouble no more than he has given up. Did you find your ring that it is here? Bulat held up his ring for Yvonne to see it's metal glistened in the firelight. He joined Yvonne by the Fire and let out a yawn. Yvonne noticed you are tired. Of course you are. You have done so much for me today. I do not know how to thank you. I owed you a debt and I am glad I could repay it. But he won't admit. I have enjoyed our time together. You are a good man. I would say the same for you. Boo Lop The companion. They should call you now. Please go to sleep. Let me keep watch. There are dangers in these woods. You should know that you are not the only one who seeks princess to warm their bed. You must not succumb to sleep. I will not disappoint you though. He was reluctant. Lula lay down beside the fire. The trials of the day had indeed made him tired. His eyes were heavy and soon sleep. Took Him Bulat Awoke to Evan's cries. He sat up squinting against the morning light and saw Yvonne kneeling beside bus Elisa's blanket. It was empty lot. I I did not do his you asked. I failed and she has gone taken in the night while I slept. It is the work of COSCIA. The death loose he prowls. These lands searching for maidens. I should've warned you better made you understand. It was your error true but I must share in the blame. Death Lewis. He is hidden his soul from the reaper. He cannot be killed. But what shall I do not I do not know how to kill anything let alone kill the unkillable slowdown prince. I we must find him. You mean you will help me. I promise you I would find your prophesied love. My task may take longer than I had thought but it still might task and I have not yet found a land to settle in. What have I to get back to? Yvonne was grateful to this warrior. Who knew so much more than him. But he did not yet realized that Bulat was grateful for Yvonne as well he'd been a fierce warrior and battled intimidating foes. But he never had a true friend. The two men set off on their horses with Bulat leading the way. They traveled for days roaming the countryside. A month passed. They just begun to lose hope when they came upon a Field Bulat pulled on his horse's reins and held up a hand. Yvonne stopped short beside him before them lay an enormous field where two men tended to a herd of cattle. Why have we stopped? 'cause she is kettle there beyond the field sat a small farmhouse with a plume of smoke streaming from. It's chimney Goulart. I the scene thoughtfully it would not do to storm into the home of a Man. Immune to death they would have to be cunning. His eyes turned to the herders. Manning the cattle by the time the herders looked up. Balat was upon them. He mercilessly ran his sword through them in a single swipe. As the men hit the Ground Bulat turn to Yvonne and nodded but Yvonne was frozen. He knew of death and violence in theory but had never seen it with his own. Is He. His hands trembled as he helped. Bulat steel the herders clothes. A short time later Bulat and Yvonne dressed as the herders led the cattle into casillas. Barn there a few milkmaids were giggling as they milk a cow but there was no sign of COSCIA. The milkmaids looked up as they entered then went back to their task without saying thing to them. Ballade and Yvonne looked like the simple herders that worked the farm. Bulat stepped forward cautiously maidens. Is that milk for the Lady of the House. By any chance off the maidens nod Bulat took out his ring he held it in the air and then dropped it in their Pale. See to it that she gets that. The maidens frowned but stood and carried the Pale from the Barn Yvonne and Bulat waited tensely but they did not have to wait long. Thus Elisa's soon hurried into the barn. Her face was Pale and her eyes were red from crying. She held who lots ring in her hand as Yvonne saw her he melted. It was his fault that she'd been taken and it pains him to see her in such a state. He stepped forward with his head down but as soon as he opened his mouth to apologize. Vassil Lisa leapt into his arms. I know it was you please. We do not have much time. 'cause she has hunting and I do not know how long it will take. The milkmaids would not tell me my love. Come with us. You do not need to stay. He will come for me. My parents a man they cannot die has all the time in the world. He will never stop seeking me Q. Him We must there is no way. He's hidden his soul somewhere that no one can find who told you this. He does so love to boast about added. Coscia cannot hide from the reaper wants. His soul is uncovered we find his soul and then we shall kill the man who dares cheat death. The three of them plotted in the barn. But they did not realize that a short distance away Coscia was returning from his hunt. Coscia the death. Louis was tall with broad shoulders and long tangled hair. His face was Pale and gaunt and his dark eyes were almost black. Upon his thin lips was a sneer an untold joke at the expense of those mortal souls around him and as his intimidating form road his steed toward his front door. He caught a whiff of something in the air. He inhaled deeply and his cold eyes flashed. There were men close by men who wished him harm in the barn who lots hair suddenly stood up on end. He looked toward the door worried. He had long learned to trust his instincts. They had served him well on the battlefield and right now. He knew that they were in terrible danger. Coscia the death Louis was coming up next. Vessel Lisa uses her cleverness to find her captors hidden soul and in doing so sense her lover on a perilous journey to retrieve it. Now back to the story after uniting Prince Yvonne with his prophesied Love Vesa. Lisa Bulaq had thought his task was done but the malevolent immortal. Coscia the death Lewis took vessel Lisa under the cloak of nightfall and whisked her away to his home while Coscia was out hunting. Boola and Yvonne met Bustle Lisa in a bar and tasked her with finding out where Coscia kept his soul but COSCIA had returned from his hunt and smelled their presence because Shia strode into the barn his nostrils flared ready to catch whatever interlopers had dared infiltrate his home but he only saw vessel. Lisa standing by the cow. He did not notice that just a short distance away hidden within the muck of the pigsty. Were Bulaq the brave and Prince Yvonne? They waited with bated breath hoping not to be discovered vessel. Lisa cleared her throat. Trying to get casillas attention. My Lord I I have missed you. So what are you doing out here in the barn? I left warm by the fire inside. I needed some milk for my face. The maids did not bring enough. Have you seen any one unusual? The air's thick with their sent no my Lord vessel. Lisa stiffened as Coscia slunk around the barn coming dangerously close to the pigsty. But his vile gays did not fall upon Bulat or Yvonne. Instead he turned back to Uh Lisa who smiled winning. -Ly I was worried for you out hunting. It's so dangerous. I told you I cannot die. My soul is hidden from harm but my Lord have even properly careful with it. What if someone were to find it? If it were me I would keep it within sight so to make sure no harm befell it. You are a lovely girl but your intelligence is wanting it is in my kitchen by my hearth within a broom. Eight is the perfect place to hide it. No one was six something so important within something so common. Thus Elisa's smiled. She had done it later. That evening Coscia sat down at the table for his meal. His yellowing teeth sank into a goose wing and his thin fingers. Peel the skin off the bone with delight how he loved the taste of flash thus ELISA's slowly approached him holding the broom in question. She held it tightly. Ready to snap it in half to release his soul. My Lord I have retrieved your broom. It's cargoes too precious to be left lying around again. You prove it. You are short of wit what I keep something so important within something so common you said I don the trust another creature the guard my soul it is within the goat in the bar thus Elisa's stared at him with contempt as she shoved more meat into his mouth is is followed her as she slowly moved to the roaring fire. She stared into the flames aware of Casillas. Evil watchful eyes as night fell. Vesa Lisa climbed from her window and hurried to the Barn Bulat and Yvonne were there waiting for her. She moved to once again leap into Yvonne's arms but the smell from the STI- gave her paws. She smiled ruefully. Forgive me my love. The smell has to great. Of course it matters not he was lying about the brew was he. Not How did you know? A warrior can detect ally. Now tell me. Did he give you another location in the goat? He said he needed another soul to watch over his own lies again. We must be clever about this. Take the GO-TO COSCIA and try once again in firt. Bulat produced a scar from his pocket and wrapped it around the goat then. He stepped back. If Vesa Lisa presented Coscia with this goat decorated like a revered prize. He would once again. Laugh at her thoughtlessness Shirley. His condescending ego would compel him to reveal the true location of his soul bustle. Lisa crept into cashiers abode leading the goat behind her as she stepped across the threshold. Coscia awoke from his slumber. His huge shoulders tensed ready to spring. Upon whatever creature dared enter his lair? Who Goes there? It is me my Lord. I brought your goat from the barn. Such an important guardian should be kept close by. Do you not think again. Your idiocy astounds me. You think I would keep my soul in such a beast. Less Lisa tried to hide her smile. As COSCIA puffed his chest a sickening grin return to his face as he chuckled at her supposed- stupidity. My soul is far more difficult to find hidden inside an egg which is inside it duck which was swallowed by a hair that lives under an oak tree on the shore of the distant. See No one can find it You are very clever. My Lord Coscia was pleased with himself so pleased in fact that he did not notice the smell of pig manure that had permeated the air because at that very moment Yvonne and Bulat were poised outside his window listening to his. Every word. Upon hearing. Cushy is confession Bulat and Yvonne wasted no time they mounted their steeds and took off. Bulat knew that what Coscia said about his soul was the truth he had heard of this island he spoke of it was featured in a tale told often by soldiers around the campfire but Bulaq also knew that the journey was long and they had no food with them. He worried that they go hungry but boo lots. Prayers were answered for a short time after they departed a dog darted into their path Bulaq. Lot pulled on his rains and whipped out his sword. Yvonne watched Bulat raise the sword. Stop still your hand. We have a long way to go young Yvonne. This dog's meat will feed us. Let him live. I am the reason behind. So many ills that have befallen us. Felisa was imprisoned because of my negligence and to herders met their deaths at your hand. I do not fault you for doing what must be done but I cannot bear another life being lost we will either reach because she is so or we will not but let violence not get us. There Bulat looked at the dog which cowered in fear and he lowered his sword. He thought he knew the land. The World Better Than Yvonne. Yvonne had begged for mercy when he had not even considered it. It was a lesson he would do well to remember. Dog disappeared into the woods and the two men continued on their journey. Bulaq passed an eagle as they moved through the thick trees. He reached for his sword but remembered. Yvonne's lesson on mercy and stopped. They pressed on soon. They came to the ocean shore on the horizon. The Tree Cassia had spoken of stood proud against the darkening sky. A scratching caught bul lots attention and he looked down at the sandy beach crawling along. The shore was a lobster boo. Lots stomach growled. He once again reached for his sword but he stayed his hand as he remembered. Yvonne's words instead. He looked to the tree they had arrived. Bulaq ran toward the tree with the yell and threw his body against its trunk. Yvonne watched admiration as Bulat strained against the tree. The tree finally gave way toppling over and hitting the ground with a thud and then from its roots a hair sprung out and took off down the shore. The men rushed after it in a panic. But they were too slow. They watched in agony as it grew smaller and smaller on the horizon but suddenly barking filled the air as the dog. Bulat had spared leapt from the woods and sank. Its teeth into the hair. The dog tore at the rodent ripping apart but from its damaged body. A duck emerged its wings flapped as it took to the skies out of nowhere. The Eagle Bulat had spared shot after the duck tearing it apart with its talons. The duck fell from the sky and into the sea. The men watched in shock and defeat. They could not believe the miraculous events that had just occurred but they also knew that the C- had likely claimed the egg that lay within the duck. Yvonne looked down and gasped. Bulat followed his gaze to see the lobster. He'd spared crawling out of the ocean. It held an egg in its claw. Bulaq lowly reach down and took the egg from the creature. He held it up with a smile. I believe there is a great force helping US Prince Yvonne. It seems someone does not want Cassia to run from death any longer. The men rode back to casillas farm as quickly as their horses would take them as they strode toward their fate. Yvonne was filled with purpose. He looked at Bulat and smiled. No longer feeling the nerves that previously pulsed within him instead he only felt certainty night had fallen by the time they arrived at Casillas farm. Lot dismounted his horse and ran for the door. His sword brandished. Yvonne was close behind him. He lunged forward to fling. Open the door for Bulat who lurched inside a startled. Vesa Lisa backed away in fright. But cushy s stood tall and looming he towered over Bulat to with a leering smile. And who might you be Cassia? I have come to kill you and free or captive. Kill me my poor little warrior. You cannot kill someone who has no soul. I am Polat the brave. You are no longer the Death Louis. Just COSCIA BEFORE. Coscia could react. Yvonne leapt into the room and smashed the egg on cushy as forehead the gooey mess from within the egg poured down casillas face. His dark eyes turned lethal and his lip curled into a Snarl Yvonne stepped back fearful of this tyrants rage. 'cause she grabbed Yvonne's throat his grip like iron as his fury erupted. You dare release my soul. Coscia let go of Yvonne with a gasp and slowly looked down. Bulaq soared to stuck out of his chest. It's blade had been run straight through his heart. Bulat stood before him with a cocky grin and watched as Coscia the death less crumpled to the ground and lay still. The Demon was defeated. Taking his lover's hand Yvonne Lead Vessel Lisa from her prison and back into the world where they could begin their lives. Anew Bulaq escorted Yvonne and vessel Lisa safely to events castle where he introduced her as his wife to his kingdom a week of celebratory drinking and eating followed and finally Yvonne fulfilled his lifelong prophecy and made vessel Lisa. His wife after the joy of their union were off. Yvonne began to worry about his friend. Luke had not yet departed and he was no doubt growing restless he was a warrior and the simplicity of Castle. Life was likely to dull for him. Perhaps he was waiting for. Yvonne's blessing though. Yvonne did not want him to go. He would do the right thing by his comrade one night after supper. Yvonne approached. Bulat Friend. You have done so much for me. You must know how grateful I am for your companionship. It is I who must thank you. Not many would have stopped to help a commoner the market. Your kindness has stayed with me. You taught me much. I I understand that you must go. You have sought your home and I have held you back just know that. Should you wish you always have a place alongside me a better adviser? I could not find. Bulat smiled grateful at the offer. Because Bulat had no intention of continuing to Rome. He had always thought that when he found his home it would be in a land that spoke to him but he realized instead that he had found home within another person in his naievety Yvonne had taught. Bulat much about goodness and mercy just as Bulat had todd Yvonne about being brave. The two remained friends until the end of their days with Bulat. The brave as Yvonne's most trusted adviser as Yvonne moved from Prince two ruler and had children of his own. Bulaq continued to lend him guidance. Even when the two men disagreed they recalled their adventure and all that they had learned from one another. The character of Yvonne is present throughout many Russian tales while there are various iterations of Yvonne. He's frequently seen as inexperienced and foolish until a journey forces him to become a hero. This is because regardless of the way Yvonne accomplishes his task and who helps him along the way he was created to represent the trials of the underdog both Bulat and Yvonne consistently swapped power throughout the story. Yvonne has noble blood yet is never quite able to accomplish anything himself. It's Balat who accomplishes the extraordinary tasks and vessel Lisa who finally gains the knowledge needed to defeat the demon. He may be a noble but without the help of a commoner and a woman Yvonne would never have succeeded however the story also proves the reverse is true as well without the higher ideals and inherit morality of Yvonne Lot might have slain the animals and ultimately failed in his task so though Bulat the brave glorifies the warrior it also shows us that both peasants and nobility have something to offer one another in each of us. There's an inherent need for growth. 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136: Yvonne De Carlo

"Another episode of this podcast dedicated exploring the secrets and forgotten histories of Hollywood's first century, I'm your host Karina Longworth. And today, we bring you another story from the seduced a miniseries related to my new book seduction sex lies and stardom in Howard Hughes's Hollywood. Today's episode concerns actress who Hughes successfully wound, but whose romantic resume would become so varied and eventful that Hughes would wouldn't necessarily be the highlight. Yvonne decarlo worked steadily in mostly b and genre movies for over forty years. Only reaching her biggest triumphs on television and on Broadway. She is probably the only person who has been a subject on this podcast whose story includes the mentor ship of both Billy wilder and Stephen Sondheim, and who is still most famous for playing and undid house. Join us won't you for part five of the seduced. Yvonne decarlo. Born Peggy Middleton in Vancouver, Canada, the future. Yvonne decarlo was raised by a single mother. Marie and marines mother and sister after an incident in which a naked male border broke into Yvonne's bedroom in the middle of the night and peed on the little girl. Marie used to take her daughter with her on dates telling the young girl to sleep in the back seat of the car while Marie and her man of the moment went to bar. At Murray's insistence from a very young age. Yvonne, study dance every day after school as a result. By the time. Yvonne was tween. She had exhausted. The available dance training in Vancouver. So Maria decided to take her daughter to Los Angeles mother and daughter would hop back and forth across the border several times over the next few years by the fall of nineteen thirty eight sixteen year old Yvonne was enrolled at Hollywood high school and beginning to do some modeling. She came in second place in the miss Venice beauty contest and won a twenty five dollar prize about five hundred in two thousand eighteen dollars. And what Yvonne described as a small fortune at the tail end of the depression when she and her mother were living on a single diner waitress. His salary. She also earned a chance. To addition for Earl Carroll's, a nightclub in the heart of Hollywood. But once at the audition, she was informed that she would be required to show her upper assets to Mr. Carol himself when the teenager who was pretending to be several years older than she was in order to legally work asked why it would be necessary to go topless in an audition for a job as a non topless dancer. She was informed. It's Mr. Carol's policy to take a look to make sure nobody's cheating. If you know what? I mean. Yvonne refused to show her assets. And she and her mother went across the street to another nightclub the Florentine gardens where they only require that. She show her legs before agreeing to give her a tryout that Night Live on stage in front of a paying crowd. The idea was a success. And no one asked her age. She started in the back chorus line and with hard work moved up to the front chorus line. And then started earning special featured dances like one where she cast off a series of Schiff on veils until she was nearly naked only to be carried off by a man in gorilla suit all was going swimmingly until the department of immigration discover that she was working on expired tourist visa and gave Yvonne twenty four hours to return to Canada. But the manager of the Florentine gardens stuck his neck out for von and vouched for her with the immigration board to arrange a long term work visa, so soon the teenager was back performing sexy dances to songs like bolero in front of nightclub crowds sprinkled with celebrities such as French show tone Burgess Meredith and Orson Welles. Wells asked her out to dinner and Yvonne accepted. But instead he took her to his house and chased her around his art collection until he got the hint, Yvonne was virgin wells called a cab to take her home during this period. She also met Anthony Quinn who told her he wanted her to stand on a literal pedestal, quote where I can wash you hour after hour and she met sterling Hayden to whom Yvonne seriously considered losing her virginity. But Hayden advised waits for the right guy. She was ready to make Jimmy Stewart the right guy, but at the end of their first dinner date, she was embarrassed to invite him into the tiny apartment. She shared with her mother. They didn't have another date and the right guy soon came along, and he wasn't famous Yvonne later recalled I was so fed up with my virginity that I was glad to be rid of it. Clarinetist and bandleader Artie Shaw who also took a liking to Yvonne wasn't the right guy. He would prove to be definite, Mr. wrong who would go through wives as fast as reads, but Shah, according to Yvonne was merely a supportive friend to her a very, supportive friend. He told her he would pay her a salary for one month, if she quit her nightclub job and dedicated herself to trying to break into movies. Yvonne took the offer. And before the month was out. She did land her first film role a one line walk on. And that was it with no other rules coming in. She was forced to go back to nightclub dancing. But slowly bit parts started to filter in in the summer of nineteen forty two just bef-. Four. She turned twenty Yvonne was signed to a contract at paramount. She paid her dues playing mostly background roles and posing for pinup and publicity photos hanging around the lot attempting to gain purchase as a contract starlets. Yvonne began a relationship with Billy wilder it didn't last long and the great writer director didn't cast her in any of his films, but decarlo would nonetheless call him the first big love of my life. He would also introduce her to Ernst Lubitsch who became a close platonic friend. But these friendships didn't lead to job security. Eventually, Yvonne was informed that exotic types like her were no longer in fashion and paramount was dropping her car. Contract. Exotic types never went out of fashion over the hill at universal a decade and a half had passed. Since Dracula had given that studio both a defining John rea- horror and business model franchises and formula to rally around. More than ever the house that car Leme Lee had built kept afloat by cranking out low cost John r- films. They began the nineteen forties by trying to make lawn. Cheney junior happen and updates of the nineteen thirties horror formula, like the wolf man and son of Dracula and they began looking for ways to adapt this type of formulaic production to others genres in nineteen forty two independent producer, Walter Wayne. Jer made the by graphical aviation adventure eagle squadron the first of fourteen films that he'd produced from within the auspices of universal eagles squadron, which waner was able to produce relatively cheaply by taking advantage of Universal's contract players and other resources was enormously profitable. And. Danger followed it up with another picture at the studio Arabian nights, which was Universal's first film shot in three strip technicolor Arabian nights. Invented a new universal formula, the exotic read mildly racist romance. This wasn't really new in fact, one of wagers earlier successes had been the Hetty Lamar vehicle algae RDS itself. A remake of the French film. Pepe lem Oko, which was still innovative within Hollywood in that it relied on a foreign location largely unfamiliar to American audiences to add for sewn to a fairly conventional love story. But Arabian nights and other wager and wagers style films. That would follow it universal would make all jeers look like causa Blanco. To put it more. Simply Arabian nights. Was crude lurid and mostly memorable for codifying? What became a news genre? At universal described simply by wager as tits and sand. The female star of Arabian nights was Maria. Montas a Dominican actress who universal had decided to promote as their answer to exotic glamour girls like Lamar or Rita Hayworth who with her flaming red technicolor, ready hair. Montas resembled Arabian nights made Montas a big enough star. They universal began looking for younger actresses whom they could groom to make cheaper versions of the kinds of movies Mont has starred in Yvonne was brought onto the universal lot to do a screen test to play a wolf girl in one of these movies as she was passing through the universal offices into her meeting with the casting director she walked past Walter Wayne. Jer wager thought Yvonne resembled his wife actress Joan Bennett who's transformation. From blonde to a Noir. Ready brunette Wehner had overseen the head of casting. Universal told Yvonne that waner was looking for the star of his next film. But he needed a beauty who could sing dance and act. I can handle that Yvonne said so she was given her second screen test of the day thanked for her time and sent home. But Wayne's your liked the test and ordered another one after that Yvonne was told that universal wanted to sign her to an entry level contract to make sure she was available should Wayne decide to cast her knowing universal. This was probably a ploy to get her cheap. They were able to get an actress who would appear in most scenes of an epic technicolor adventure film, and in some of those scenes dance while more than. In half naked for barely more than the price of an extra. Yvonne didn't find out she had the part until she walked out of her apartment and tripped over a newspaper containing an article announcing that she had been cast as Sallemi and that Wayne jer hedge dubbed her the most beautiful girl in the world. In her auto biography decarlo calls Salome where she danced a satire and admits that while shooting she was so green. She didn't realize that the film was intended to be a comedy, but to call Saleh may or salami as it's pronounced in the movie, a satire is probably to give it too much credits. At the very least it makes the mistake of intellectual Leising, a very silly film that seems to have nothing on its mind other than spectacle to my is it's sort of the nineteen forty five version of a porno spoof of a blockbuster mainstream movie with dance scenes veteran tirelessly about imagining decarlo naked substituting for hardcore pornography, and instead of spoofing one movie it spoofs multiple genre. Says pillaging elements of civil war movies westerns and universal exotica in its pastiche. Yvonne plays a heady Lamar esque, Austrian ballet dancer who becomes involved with an American newspaper. Reporter turned spy and together they travel from Vienna to the US Yvonne's adventures continue across the continent with stops for scantily clad dancing. The reason for the movie to exist is not any kind of social or cultural commentary, but the fetishistic photographed image of the gorgeous and balaclava competent decarlo as naked as the censorship board of nineteen forty five would allow writhing writhing, right? Salom aware. She danced got terrible reviews. But it made a profit. Of course, it was a movie Howard Hughes. Loved he probably wondered why he himself had made it. As we explore in this podcast often. The most compelling remarkable stories are the ones about real people and events that's one of the reasons streaming these fascinating courses from the great courses. Plus is so wonderful. You can learn about different people time periods and cultures from award winning experts who are so knowledgeable and passionate one of my favorite courses is America in the gilded age and progressive era. This course, explores American social and political history from the end of the civil war through the nineteen twenties. This course is really fascinating and the lecturer Edward T O Donald PHD does a really great job of putting the facts into context in a way that successful. But not condescending, I think of this course, as a kind of pre. Equal for the research and storytelling. We've done on a number of seasons of this podcast from the blacklist to Jean and Jane to this season, the seduced in which were telling a lot of stories about people primarily women whose relative success or lack thereof in Hollywood. How did a lot to do with how social forces intersected with power structures, and how commercial forces intersected with creative impulses to that end, some lectures, you might find particularly interesting our number six big business democracy for sale number twelve morals and manners. Middleclass cya team number sixteen. No, more corsets, the new woman, and of course, number nine popular culture, jazz modern arts and movie. The great courses plus offers unlimited access to stream thousands of lectures. Explore any topic that interests you history, literature, even had a practice, mindfulness or take better photos watch and listen anytime anywhere from the great courses plus app. I know you're going to love the great courses plus two. And now is the perfect time to get started. For a limited time only, my listeners get their first month for free, but to get this special free month offer you need to sign up through my special. You are L sign up. Now at the great courses, plus dot com slash remember. That's the great courses plus dot com slash remember. Howard Hughes met Yvonne decarlo on the tail end of year long journey away from Los Angeles to even call it a journey is to be quite charitable to a bizarre series of events in may nineteen forty four on a test flight of his custom built Sikorsky s forty three c plane Hughes had crashed into Nevada's lake Mead and two men had died in the accident was head had the wreck of the plane removed from lake need and rebuilt. A few months later Hughes told Joe patrolling who supervised the rebuilding that he wanted to take the secorski on a trip petralli asked where they were going Hugh said Las Vegas. What he's did not tell petrole was that they would be gone for months during that period. Hughes would be completely a wall out of touch with the numerous women. He had been involved with and totally hands off on all of his businesses, including his movie production company. For the first few months Hughes and petrole bounced between Vegas Reno and Palm Springs each week. We'd move on. And all this time. We kept nine hotel rooms and six rental cards, but trolley recalled Howard gave me orders not to talk to anybody about where we were or what we were doing. In between trips Hughes would remain alone in his hotel room. Around Christmas Hughes pulled a disappearing act within his disappearing act. No, one put trolley included knew where he was for more than a month when he resurfaced in Vegas where petrole had been waiting for him Hughes told him to get the plane ready. They flew to Shreveport, Louisiana. The site of caddo parish where Howard Hughes senior had launched his oil drill bit business. They checked into a hotel and around nine pm Hughes wandered out and found a deli and bought a bag of cupcakes and a bottle of milk one of his favorite meals. According to a trolley. It started to rain and Hughes stood under the awning of a gas station to eat his dinner and wait out. The storm a policeman cruised by a man in a cheap suit with a few days beard growth and assumed he was a bum. The cop asked Hughes who he was and what he was doing there. The cop did not believe him when he said he was Howard Hughes and Hughes didn't carry an ID. If you are Howard Hughes the cop oust have you got any money Hughes reached into his pocket and pulled out a crumpled five hundred dollar Bill. The cop arrested him for vagrancy. Eventually the manager of a local Hughes tool. Plant was pulled out of bed and brought down to the station to identify the boss Hughes was like oh. You got them country. Policemen. Howard swore at the police chief on his way out the door. Hughes finally returned to public life in New York City in late summer by September. His name was in the gospel columns as the new escort of Yvonne decarlo after the release of Sallemi and the filming of her follow up frontier girl decarlo return to her hometown of Vancouver to play the big fish performing cabaret act at a theatre that had booked her before she was famous Howard Hughes definitely had a type in the nineteen forties. And Yvonne was it raven. Haired heavily limited is prominent cheek bones, creating chiseled lines that pointed to a pillow e but unsmiling mouth Hughes had seen may and had taken note of her costume in it which had few. Featured a skimpy bra top over miles of bare midriff Hughes flew up to Canada, just to meet her. Decarlo was inbetween sets when Johnny Meyer approached her. Johnny Meyer was one of Hughes's key personal aides Hughes had hired him away from a job as a publicist at Warner Brothers where his duties were said to mainly consist of procuring women for Errol Flynn to have sex with Meyer introduced himself to avant and said, Mr Hughes would like to meet you Yvonne, wasn't sure who Mr Hughes was. But she said fine. As the thirty nine year old Hughes approached twenty two year old decarlo observed that he looked lanky underfed and remarkably sad she thought. Wow. This would be a terrific boyfriend for my aunt the day after Hughes end decarlo met in a move that was extremely unusual for the flying millionaire. He agreed to meet the family with whom the actress was staying in Vancouver within the first week of their acquaintance, though, they were rarely alone together as von put it with somehow managed to consummate a relationship, and it wasn't bad. It might have been on the clinical side. But that was the way with Howard Hughes. What he did was count. Curated to please Hughes apparently liked to watch Yvonne bay admiring her in the tub. He. He would say there's nothing quite so appealing on a woman as a nice set of level ears. That man boobs. Toward the end of Hughes's nearly year long sojourn away from Los Angeles. He had been out flying with decarlo when he decided to stop and call in for his messages they landed and Howard when inside the airport telling Yvonne he would be back in five minutes. He was gone a lot longer than that. And Yvonne snuck out of the plane to see what was going on. She found him as she remembered later Yellen on the phone saying, you just don't give a damn you. Don't give a damn and I thought once that she scrambled back to the plane. And when he finally returned Hughes asked, Yvonne, are you serious about me? She found out later that Howard had been talking to Ava Gardner who had been involved with Hughes, but had told him that she was marrying Yvonne's old friend Artie Shaw. Yvonne and Howard returned to Los Angeles together where he moved into the townhouse a luxury hotel not far from the embassador there. She would visit him at night and lounge around his room, which he had filled with advertising mockups for his film via out law. The pair would eat dinner make love and then while Yvonne slept Howard would agonize over the outlaws advertising deep into the night. She noticed that he had what she described as long curling toenails, the nearly wrap themselves around his toes. This struck me as a bit strange. But I struggle it off figuring he must have some well-thought reason for them. Hughes. Yvonne furniture to fill the house. She had recently purchased with her Sallemi salary. He had a dress designed for her which she hated and only wore on dates with him. She believed they were in a serious relationship. And that they would eventually Mary. But Hughes used his prodigious influence over the local media to make sure that their relationship remains secret to anyone outside the bubble in which they moved together. Still quite young and naive. Yvonne. Didn't think this was a big deal until one day when she went out to lunch with Maria Montas and Pat did Chico one of Hughes's right hand men. Montas told her to wake up Hughes was not going to marry her then did Chico of all people added his two cents. Don't you know about all the other girls in his life? Yvonne said, of course, she knew Howard had been involved with other women he talked about Billie dove almost every day. But that was in the past. Did she co and Montas were basically like Linda Darnell 's not in the past? They told her that Hughes was a compulsive liar who kept girls stashed all over town. Early that summer. Yvonne came right out and asked Hughes will we ever be married. He told her unambiguously no shortly after that he had his nearly fatal plane crash. And he and Yvonne didn't see each other for three years after that. Suddenly Yvonne got a call that he wanted to come to her house and talked to her about starring in a film for the studio. He now owned Arcadio he arrived with a script, and they had a long conversation ever vein. He was asked do I look different to you? Poetry. He must have been deeply concerned about his appearance because I had never known him to seek reassurance before Yvonne recalled, Yvonne, lied and said he didn't. But he did as she put it. Hey, looked dreadful like a caricature of his former self he had aged twenty years and become a shell of the man I had known and loved. As we explore in this podcast often. The most compelling remarkable stories are the ones about real people and events that's one of the reasons streaming these fascinating courses from the great courses. Plus is so wonderful. You can learn about different people time periods and cultures from award-winning experts who are so knowledgeable and passionate one of my favorite courses is America in the gilded age and progressive era. This course, explores American social and political history from the end of the civil war through the nineteen twenties. This course is really fascinating and the lecturer Edward T. O Donnell PHD. Does a really great job of putting the facts into context in a way that successful. But not condescending, I think of this course, as a kind of prequel for the research. Storytelling. We've done on a number of seasons of this podcast from the blacklist to Jean and Jane to this season, the seduced in which were telling a lot of stories about people primarily women whose relative success or lack thereof in Hollywood how to do with how social forces intersected with power structures and how commercial forces intersected with creative impulses. Tha that end some lectures, you might find particularly interesting. Our number six big business democracy for sale number twelve morals and manners. Middle-class cya team number sixteen. No more corsets of a new woman, and of course, number nine popular culture, jazz modern arts and movie, the great courses plus offers unlimited. Access to Streep thousands of lectures. Explore any topic that interests you history, literature, even had a practice, mindfulness or take better photos watch and listen anytime anywhere from the great courses plus app. I know you're going to love the great courses plus two. And now is the perfect time to get started. For a limited time only, my listeners get their first month for free, but to get this special free month offer you need to sign up through my special. You are L sign up. Now at the great courses, plus dot com slash remember. That's the great courses plus dot com. Slash remember. After the world wind romance with Hughes had ended Yvonne came down to earth and realized as she put it I was not the world's finest actress she had been cast in Salome for her face and her ability to move her body. But otherwise that performance had been amateurish at best, and she had an improved much since she began taking lessons, and then she got an assist from producer Mark Helen, jer who cast her in a small part in a Burt Lancaster prison film called brute force. D Carlos level of interest in the craft of acting and the priority. She placed on it within the other excitements in her life is perhaps evidenced by the fact that when she writes about brute force in her book instead of talking about the making of the movie, she describes the one night stand. She had with Lancaster on top of a mink coat in the backyard of her house. Decarlo would go on to make some well remembered films from her follow up team up with Lancaster in criss cross to Cecil Beata mills ten commandments which was the highest grossing movie of nineteen fifty six and one of the most successful Hollywood epics of the decade. But from Sallemi on she was basically typecast as scantily clad beauty in genre. And or exotic adventure films. Some of these movies were westerns some took place near or on bodies of water. Sometimes she got to do a stunt or hold a gun once in the technicolor bio pic magic fire. She played the composer Wagner 's wife. But a lot of time the differences were superficial Yvonne herself described one studio assignment buccaneer's girl as the same as all the others except that this time I was a girl instead of a gal. She had gotten her start at universal a studio that ground all of its resources into a formula driven assembly line, and she proved to have a film career that was about as formulaic as it could get she didn't fight too hard against this typecasting. There wasn't much. She could do if she wanted to keep working steadily. But in her off time she pursued her own interests. She developed her singing voice by studying with an opera singer, and she had much romantic adventure her boyfriend's and fiancee's included actor Howard Duff who later became idle Pino's has been in co-star stuntman Jaakko Mahoney who later became Sally fields allegedly abusive stepfather prince Abderrazak palavi of Iran and Rita Hayworth's ex prince Ali Khan, she claimed that every time she got engaged. The ring on her finger felt like a noose. But she did eventually get married to a stunt double named Bob Morgan who she met on the set of a movie called shotgun, which filmed on location in the middle of the desert the cast and crew would party together at the motel where they were all temporarily living and Bob impressed, Yvonne with his signature cocktail a MARTINI mixed with white wine instead of vermouth. They married in November nineteen fifty five and within two years. Yvonne had given birth to two sons as the fifties ended and her age crept toward forty film parts waned and Yvonne kept busy with TV appearances and in a touring nightclub act. Her marriage was troubled and by nineteen sixty three Yvonne was close to filing for divorce. And then Bob got into a horrible accident on the set of how the west was won after performing stunt involving fifteen tons of lumber and a moving train. Bob was accidents knocked onto the rails by the falling would and then run over by the train. He had to have a leg amputated, and the recovery was long painful and difficult. Yvonne dropped everything to support her husband through his ordeal. But eventually the family needed her to make a living. She began taking every nightclub gig. She could get off and having to take her two young sons with her for lack of another childcare option. John Wayne got her cast in his film McLintock which helped her get back on her feet financially. And then Yvonne still needing to take whatever work. She could get in order to feed. All the mouths dependent on her was offered the part that she'd become most famous for. As lily Munster. The munsters was part of a boom of macabre and supernatural themes, sit cones, but all premiered in September nineteen sixty four including the Addams family and bewitched which was the longest lasting of these in its initial run and the Addams family became an iconic movie franchise, but the munsters was initially a big hit. And it's a ritual cast which included Yvonne as the nuclear families, vampire matriarch, and Fred Gwynne as her Frankenstein 's husband became synonymous with their characters fitting considering where Yvonne got her start. The munsters was intentionally modeled after Universal's monster movies of the nineteen thirties which had become Staples of late night TV. But otherwise, the show was basically a spoof on nineteen fifties sitcoms with a few occasional reminders that most of its protagonists were. Dead in this clip, Yvonne's lily confesses to her niece a disturbing secret. She's discovered about her husband. It's a disaster. What's wrong lily? We'll be disgraced ruined wiped off the face of the. Your Herman is overdrawn at the Bank and co hermit. I can't believe it down through history. There's only happened once before in our family when grandpa overdue account at the blood Bank. Uncle say anything about this. No. He's too proud. Why if he found out that we knew he was broke? He never be able to look himself in the face again. Maybe crime could help us out. He's very well off. He was he was, but you know, the expression you can't take it with you. Well grandpa did. Universal produced seventy episodes of the munsters over two seasons, and then canceled the show when ratings dropped against its new competitor Batman, but the sitcom which became a phenomenon in syndication revitalized Yvonne's career and led to new opportunities in straight horror from the power in nineteen sixty eight to eighty schlock like vultures and play dead and in between came career highlight that looks like an outlier amongst the rest of the car those work. But in hindsight is not just the kind of thing that she was preparing for from the beginning. But was clearly tailored specifically for her. Here is Yvonne decarlo in nineteen Eighty-four talking about her triumph of a better decade and a half earlier. I finally made it to Broadway in a brand new sparkling musical cold follies. It was produced by that prince of Othello herald prince and choreographed by Michael Bennett, the genius, of course, line and music and lyrics by Stephen Sondheim, the fabulous even sometime I played the part of a former wealthy movie star called Carlotta campy on. And I'm honored to say that Stephen Sondheim wrote a song for me or rather for Carlotta was a volleys girl class of forty six. And since I'm still here. I would like to see it for you. Times times I've seen them all in my. Sometimes sometimes just pretzels Yvonne decarlo was still here until two thousand seven when she died at the age of eighty four. Next week. We will conclude this miniseries with the tail of another exotic beauty whose brief encounter with Howard Hughes would for better or for worse. Become part of her legacy. Join us then won't you? In Dante's bucks. The nine was. Hey, I'm here. On red lines. Freshen was I. Thanks for listening to you must remember. This. 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Interview: Yvonne Orji on 'Insecure'

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Interview: Yvonne Orji on 'Insecure'

"We've all found different ways to deal with this pandemic different ways to practice self care in these unprecedented times for some. It's been baking for others like me. It's been binging. Tv shows so many TV shows. I think I'm almost out of TV shows but for my guest today. It's been something else man sitting in itself for three hours this morning. Re hours take off that. I think that's in the back. I listened to album. Yeah my fingers are just now coming back from being Bailey. The most the thing about this like you candles and then there's a window but I like to keep it dark. You've been think like you can just I think really well with water and like no one else around so it helps me. Just light reset. Okay do you write jokes in the better? Oh I read your shot. Joe Is definitely shower. -Cause I'm like explain okay. So it's yeah vibe okay. Different Bob Sauer jokes are funny and then you can act out so like I'm in the where's the tell tug is like. I'm your God. I like you know what you're listening to been a minute from. Npr. I'm Sam Sanders and my guest. Today is actress. Comedian and lover of Bath Yvonne. Orgy you probably know evonne is molly. Bff TO ISA raise character on. Hbo Show Insecure. That show is in its fourth season and finds molly and Isa's friendship pushed to a breaking point later on. We'll talk about a fight. Those characters had on the show and lessons. That fight can teach us all about knowing how to maintain or win to in a relationship. Yvonne also has a new stand up special coming out in June. It's called Mama. I made it in this special. She talks about her strict family and Julian American bringing a whole bunch of other stuff. We'll get into all of that and more in this interview including what kind of stuff you hear from God in the top okay. Let's get into it. Get the water running. Light those candles fine those essential oils and enjoy chat with the hilarious bemoaned orgy watching you on insecure. The past few seasons I would bet a lot of folks given that role. Were not maybe right of the BAT. See you as a comic but you are well. The funny thing is I started. Think comedy so I was a comedian frozen actress and that's how east the person met me as a comedian yet and so. I think it's going to be funny to re introduce people to who I have always been now if I recall correctly from my reading up on you you. I did comedy as a talent during a patent. You're in that is correct. Miss Nigeria in America pageant. Oh my God I need you to tell the whole story. Play back weddings detail by detail. Because I'm just like this is goal. I mean I can't even imagine someone getting their comedy debut and a mysterious pageant. I love it already. Tell us the whole story well so I didn't clearly read the rules because I was in the middle of getting my masters and I was just busy tired and two weeks before they were like. Hey we after application. Were very excited. But you didn't list your talent and I was like because I ain't got one. What are we isn't the Badgen just like calm? Do A Walk Change outfits a couple of times and answer a question about how you would change the world given out like I got this come on give it s maiden suit in world peace. That's it. Yeah so she was like yeah. No you need a talent and out and that was so bad was like this is a pageant for Nigerians right. Because they know the only towns your tab are to like excel at school how we do that on stage like I will take the. I'll set on stayed. I was like you asked me any question. About cobain bonds. I got this like come on and so I was literally. I had nothing else to do. When I tell you. Sam I went to my room and prayed I was like God. I'm not about to look fool in front of all these people because Nigerians the toughest you I mean you know how I saw you know as a comedian you have different groups of friends that you can bring out to shows right you can have like. Your wife is super supportive no matter what it's like. Hey guys we're GONNA laugh. Clap we really just. Hey guys we're just here to support your black likes. She better be funny. Is this like out of the sheet. How funny you know and the Nigerians are like issues. Not Funny we go bit. Says it's like the Societa with this grant line just and so there's so much riding on this moment and if it doesn't work out is going to be a problem so I rehearsed my joke. Sound like I was like an actress like I did not leave any rule for laughter because I didn't know there would be so you know I my script answers like you. Just get through your copy. It was a model. I felt like it was a woman audition. Let me but Zuma's people were laughing and that was kind of mad. Because I was like messed me. He got the last was annoying to you. The last wild the did not know the INS and out of comedy. Tell me one of the jokes that you said. Oh my gosh. One of the joads joke about how African parents specialized in the two day. Delay backhand slap. And you gotTA UNDERSTAND. 'cause like they won't You'll do something and they won't immediately discipline you. They'll wait to you least expect it. They'll look at you in the light. Look you and then like where you're at the grocery store and they're like you have me degrees the grades it and then as you're reaching for the grades you gotTa Beckoned Slap. You like the head have asked you to do something like this. I found that my mother growing up she would love to save a spanking or whatever she would love to save it for public aid. She was like she was like wherever you show out. Dass around going show out and like I'll never forget. It was in sixth grade. Everyone in class had been cutting up so we all got pink slips and my mother was determined to give me my spanking in class in the non had to like. You can't do that Ma'am it's you have to go home my mom. I remember the most gangs. Their discipline was when she showed up in class and I was like talking to a boy by the lacquer and didn't realize he ended waiting in the car for like twenty minutes after working a full shift Bay Bay. She came in. Oh this is not going to end well for me. It's like hey you don't see me tomorrow Daddy I love it. I love it. It's also before we move onto other stuff. I totally forgot to ask you when one praise to God asking for a talent portion for Nigerian pageant when God says do comedy how does God say it? What were the words that were delivered to you from high the exact words? It wasn't even a full sentence. It was I always know when something's God versus me because it don't make sense like is when it's me I like yeah got all. The answer is probably slowdown when his got. I'm like so you're doing this on purpose. You're strategically not giving me all the answers. So I come back to you and I know you're always going to need me. You're always going to need me with this comedy thing because it wasn't your idea and I'm just like he's actually pretty smart getting on heaped pulling back time for a break coming up. We chat about insecure and the fight. You know what I'm talking about. This message comes from. Npr sponsor. Better help the online counselling service dedicated to connecting you with a licensed counselor to help you. Overcome whatever stands in the way of your happiness. Fill out a questionnaire and get matched with professional tailored to your needs. And if you aren't satisfied with your counselor you can request a new one at any time. Free OF CHARGE VISIT BETTER. Help DOT COM slash minute to get ten percent off your first month. Get the help you deserve with better help. Let's close our eyes. Take a deep breath. Let it out and listen to. Npr's all songs considered it's music podcast but it's also a good friend and guide to find joy in troubled times here. All songs considered with new episodes every Tuesday and Friday. Wherever you listen to podcasts. You know thinking more about your mother who just seems like I duNno I. I WanNa meet her. She seems delightful and how various she's kind of into the life. You've chosen in the career. You've chosen a bit more now than she was before you know there's the whole immigrant parent be a doctor lawyer but you say now she'll tell folks home box office you're on HBO. She's proud of that like has she accepted. Yvonne the comedian and the actress. She has in a way that what most immigrant parents like wants to do. They WANNA be able to know what their child does and be proud at like. Share it with the community right. It's like if your child is surging. This thing he just did surgery on at twins and they separated the hats. You knows like wow. That's important like heartbeats were separating. How do you do this day? It's a wake rest of Brag right But when I say Oman I tell jokes for a living like so. You're a clown you're just like. What does that mean like? I can't brag about this. I don't even know what to tell my friends. And I think now that like at the her friends or like we just saw Yvonne on X. Y. Z. It's just like Oh wait. Other people are seeing my daughter. Other people approve of this situation. Let me think deeper look at. This community has received it. I think they can now receive it as like. Oh Yeah we are proud. We were to about that. We are proud the community because it's all out in the open. Everyone's good everyone's happy. Yeah they want the bragging rights. That's really what parents want it really. Is it really really really is? Which is harder for you? Stand up comedy. You're acting stand up comedy. Why acting someone else's writing these lines you know. You've got a whole group of writers who are creating the character you have everything working for you got lighting. You got gaffer's you gotta see partner. You know all of these things that are working in your favor. Comedy gives you a microphone and maybe one light and you the now is everybody who has everything on the inside of you make the entire room at the same time lapse is true. And it's like you are on the hook for all of it for that entire set like on a show. Your lines aren't the entire half hour is a little bit of it and it's like you don't have to carry the whole thing. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah no for sure. It's like you'll see molly in a twenty eight minute episode for like fifty. You keep movie. Let's talk about molly bid. If you're with that let's do it. Let's do it. This has been a season I WanNa talk about the really big fight between your character molly and the character. Isa On the show. They have been best friends since the start and now we find ourselves in the situation season for where they've had this big humongous fight. That could mean the end of their friendship. It surprised me to see the fight. Did it surprise you to see it in the script? I mean this. All season surprise me like eastern genuine love each other like in real life so we knew. Cr CHARACTERS I fighting A. It'll be friends this so five. You know any town where onset you know. The energy is off. Because we're NASA be friends but then also were not onset at the same time this season specifically because she had a dull in her world. Her world was existing without highly. And so it was kind of so. I'm not GonNa see you and then when I do see you we be hard you know. It was kind of hard and then we'll get to that moment. It's kind of like. Oh I don't like the fights the first one that really rocked me was episode seven of season one as the funding molly beaches in public places to have beef with ease. Do do that. Y'All really do do that. And it's it's it's a look. It's not a good but it is a look. It's just a look. Yeah so see that one was the one that rocked me because it was like the first dramatic really really dramatic moment for us like the earlier fights. I would and the scene and be like. I'm sorry that y'all wrote this. I'm like I love you this one. I think this season was also a lot for a lot of people because we've all had friendships that break up and I know personally I'd say East on my man. I'm reaching into the well of friendships. Daddy's gone to to play channel other friendships ending to really important scene. Yeah no that Fi will probably things I would've wanted to say to people could never say the people so it was it was like I don't like this but I get this. How many takes did it take you all to get that scene right? Oh man it's a couple and each time he was silent. I remember it is being silent in between the takes because it was very media was very much like we. Don't this is the moment where she says. I don't like that led to her saying I don't F- Ahmad Anymore and I remember that. This particular fight scenes feeling very different feeling like who it has. The heavy have gone too far. Yeah it felt like it was going too far and and like I. I mean you know you get invested in these relationships in the show I was like like taken aback watching it. What do you think watching? This whole thing is going to do for fans of insecure. Like what are you? Want them to take from this season in this fight. What is the lesson in it for folks and also than the for you use your words? The lesson is use your words because we get them aboard it so much of this. If we just talked somebody like we talked to Thanksgiving. We could have avoided this if we talked after the Grocery store we like if we talked during the lunch that canola invaded. We probably couldn't have gotten to a better place but now is just like yeah. Goodness also all about timing. There were multiple moments. Where one of. Y'All was ready for the conversation and the other one was not and it's so important to have these critical conversations when both people are in a place where they can have them and often that is just as much of a challenge is having the right words to say for sure for sure like I think and sometimes you don't know the word but you know the feeling if that makes sense like I don't know what to say necessarily but I'd feel molly's like I feel used and east is like I feel like you're stupid but it's basically I feel down is what he's A. You know you supposed to be my writer die and I feel like you're now my die and not my ride so yeah for sure. Find the right words the right time. It's all miss adulting is hard. They don't teach it in kindergarten. They tell you to take time for another break when we come back. How Yvonne Orgy was bamboozled? That is right bamboozled by God bamboozled into the Dream Life. She has now. She'll explain the support for this. Podcast comes from the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation helping NPR advanced journalistic excellence in the digital age. There's no getting around it. The Corona virus pandemic has upended everything and daily decisions made by the White House and Congress will radically impact the human and economic toll to keep up with the latest join us on the NPR politics. Podcast cut through the noise and let you know what decisions are being made and how they affect you. I want to ask you questions. Can about your upcoming book sore. Okay I mean. I'm so intrigued by the title. It is called bamboozled by Jesus. How God tricked me into the life of my dreams. I'm a new right now. To give me one example before this book is even out of at least one trick. That guy played on you. Turn INTO A dream. Please tell me. Doesn't Dan Booze laying me my whole life? He bengals my parents with me because I was born my mother's Iud And it was shows like oh I promise you in nineteen eighty three in late in pawtucket Nigeria. I came out clutching the thing that was supposed to prevent my conception and I was like y'all keeping take that US so I think I was like oh I was at her off on a path from birth and so he'd been boosted my mom dad and then would be like. I know you US going to be a doctor that you you you but don't worry about eight years For you to make an is going to be long. It's GONNA be rough but hey stick with me. Kid actually works like nobody would choose. Who's old but you keep going. He just keeps saying yes. You just keep trusting and believing and having faith and then you get to the promised. Land you like Jesus knew what he was doing Iraq with Jesus here new talk about this what I find really interesting and probably really hard to do for like people who are looking to a higher power for guidance. You know when. Say to yourself. I'm going to let God trick me. You have to admit to things you have to admit that you think. Oughta SMARTER THAN YOU and knows more than you do in that. You aren't the smartest and you have to kind of say I'm not in control either and those can be too hard things to do it. It sounds like you've been listening to guide. And letting him bamboozle you for awhile. Was it always that way for you? Were there moments where you didn't WanNa listen where you just did not wall? I were Catholic and when I got to college I became a born again Christian and I remember being like so. Let me get this straight. We can have a personal relationship with God like we can talk to him. But he's the home Kupa clear. Yeah well this is pretty. You know if I input output and I think I enough to take us take his word and like well I mean either. He's right and I'm wrong or the opposite and I think he's been doing this longer than me. So I'M GONNA go with 'em being right. I know personally when I'm not in the sweet spot we got like it's like that's what I go back into our tub whereas like ooh my beds. You left your time ago. Talk to me again. Yeah how have your conversations with guide in the BATHTUB CHANGED? Since the pandemic it almost think they. I think they've gotten more frequent. Because I was saying here where we were outside. We were too busy forgot. It's like Oh yeah you get like you know my heart surgery. You know that you see how busy I am. Okay Google. I'm just sat down outside so I can get you attention. I've also found like just not even just in prayer but just like in life. This is the last few weeks the last month of lockdown. You sit still quiet enough in your own house. You start to just like also hear your past a lot more. I think so much of our life. Pre Corona was like. What is today? What is happening right? Now what is on my calendar today and something about the last few weeks where we're just out and about less. I Dunno you start to hear. Go from your pass and have to grapple with that in a new way and you have more stuff to talk to God about in terms of all that old stuff. Is You know my friend Debbie Brown Who's doing a lot of work with Deepak Chopra? She was saying that this is a divine time out and she called it like our times like excavate thing in us and I was like ooh excavations you dig it heavily. Several violent act business. Get the several this coming day. We got time for being we. We've let things Kinda simmer for far too long and this guy's not playing games with us. No more is we got. You gotta get excavate it yeah. I am curious Because I was raised pentecostal slash apostolic. How born again are you like? What kind of church do you talking about like tongue talking shouting in church kind of stuff like tell me speaking times paid you know praise and worship. Hooker you know unsold after Jesus. I'm connecting to you right now. I am the son of a Church. Organist PENTECOSTAL church organist. I am innocent girl. Wasn't I apologize? I know best stays in. That stays in that goal horrible. I mean he said make a joyful noise and I believe I just made Joel felt joyful joyful this thing and this and said it'd be good. He said noise is noise is fine me. Take this noise and added tambourines. Get Denver whistle all all I can bind and a gospel like our just algebra. I The Lord is on Saturday to that song in church. I would ask you about your faith background because you know it is still in two thousand twenty a rarity to see folks working in your industry. Talk as candidly about your belief as you do as you navigate the industry in the world of comedy. Tv enacting do you see your faith in your career intertwined or do you see them as separate. Is there some stuff you just leave at home or in the bathtub and don't take to work? How do you? How do you live your faith in those spaces for me intertwined? 'cause like I don't know how to take him off because it's like I I don't know how to take my nine during this off and so it's like in the same way like I can't take my blackness off aspects of me that's like I think my gender off I wait when I show up. I show up as what you see and so when I open my loud I also show up as what I believe. Now that doesn't mean I'm like hey you got to believe the same thing I believe. That's not it because that's not even what these came to to stay in Duda but it is like hey if there is anything in me or on me or of me or about me that you like. Here's really wide. I'm an amalgamation of applicant immigrant parents and the Bible air and you know like it literally degrees like everything about me that you see in love. This is why again to actress. Comedian Yvonne Orgy. Insecure season. Four is out now and event. Stand up special Mama. I made it airs in June. You can find both on. Hbo Listeners. If you enjoyed my chat with von about faith and spirituality and God and bathtubs please tune in next month the theme for all of our episodes in June is faith and belief. We're GONNA talk with different actors and musicians and writers about their faith and how it keeps them going in this really weird time. You'll hear from the likes of Nicole buyer Hassan men high Kirk Franklin James McBride. And so many more. I'm really excited to share it with you. It's all the fields and I think you'll alike it before that. Were backing your feed on Friday with another episode and for that episode. Of course you want to hear from you. We ask our listeners to share with us the best thing that have happened to them all week every week you can be part of that record yourself and send that voice file to me at Sam Sanders at NPR dot Org Sam Sanders. Npr Dot Org. I should also point out here. We accept audio and video and pictures of pets and kids and babies even cats. You can see pictures of cats. 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Trust Women

"Women are saying we were fifty four percent of the electorate in two thousand eighteen in, you can't get elected president of the United States. Unless you address the issues that women care about. Yoyo. What's up? Welcome to the thick. This is a podcast about politics, race and culture from POC perspective. I might gain a wholesome, and I'm not Loa. Oh my gosh. In our Harlem studio is to seal, Richard. You know, her because she's the former president of Planned Parenthood up, she's now, the co founder of supermajority, and she also has a new book out called make trouble, which she's been doing her whole life, pacis, welcome to the show. It's so great to be here. Thank you. So good to have you here. And joining us from Washington DC is Yvonne Gutierez. She's head of community engagement for supermajority. Welcome. Yvonne primary, I thank you for having some so excited Levy. So we're going to talk about supermajority on and why you decided to do that Cecile. I have tons of questions. But I mean Cecile I wake up every morning with another huge question about what the hell is going on? Yup. You know, again, people know you, because you, well, you're, you are the daughter of an Richards, the governor a lot of people know you like that. But you were the former head of Planned Parenthood from two thousand six to twenty eighteen you won't you were the executive director of Planned Parenthood, Texas votes since two thousand fourteen so. So we have to talk about what the hell is going on. Yeah. I mean how is it possible that we are where we are today? You know, we thought nineteen Seventy-three Roe v. Wade asked and answered been there done that moving forward. And here we are so Cecile just give us your when you're waking up and you're just like what the fuck. What is the answer that you give yourself that it helps to understand? Oh, it's easy to understand. I think they're real hard thing. Like what do we do about it? Right. Because it's all political. And that's why a lot of folks worked so hard to try to defeat Donald Trump, when he was running for president because he said, I'm gonna point judges at what overturn Roe and people didn't take him seriously, because you never know what he says is right. Or you know what, what he's saying one day to the next. But that's what he's done. And I think that's now we're seeing is all those years at Planned Parenthood. The fight was supposedly about just more restrictions or this or that. Now, it's full on the Republican party is said we don't want abortion to be legal anymore in this country and state by state. That's what they're making happen. And it's terrifying. And you look at the state of Missouri, where they're literally like one health center away from having no access to safe and legal abortion, in the whole state. All right. So I was thinking as I was prepping for this interview I'm like, all right. So I have met in my years of reporting people across the country who are very antiabortion, you know, super religious evangelical in the south or in the so-called bible belt, let the Latinos super evangelical, right? Wherever Texas, Florida. But, like how can it be? I mean those are like pockets, we're talking about this happening in the entire country. Just helped me to understand how this happened where it's like we're putting this back on the table. I mean, I get the, the Donald Trump part, but right honestly, and this is another issue. I know you know a ton about is that we. We do not have a Representative democracy. So when you look at who's an office, okay? Just take Alabama, for example, twenty-five members of their of their house of representatives voted to outlaw all abortion in the state of Alabama. And the only thing they had in common is none of them will ever be pregnant. They were all men, right? And that's what we're seeing is that women are still so far behind. I mean women of color so far behind. And so we basically have a non Representative democracy and the irony of all this to me. I mean, there's so many but one is, of course that the support for safe and legal abortion is the highest is ever been. And so it's not that they are doing the bidding of the people and the other thing that just really goals me is you look at states, like Georgia Alabama, some of the highest rates of maternal mortality, the least access to healthcare, some of the worst rates of infant mortality. So these are not legislators who actually care about the health and wellbeing of women or children. They simply want outlaw abortion. That's the bottom line. Yvonne knows she's from Texas von. No. She's from Texas, right? Yeah. Exactly. I am too, but Evonne I mean, seriously looking at sort of the big picture, what Cecile saying what are your thoughts? Well, you know, I mean big picture is I left by my posted at Planned Parenthood after fourteen years after working to fight back against the terrible restrictions, in the state because to Cecil's point, we can't change anything, unless we are building political power for women. We don't have a Representative democracy, and we certainly don't have it in Texas. And I think that what was so frustrating for women in Texas. Was that it was just a continue. Even when, you know, the state legislature, there was an increase of fourteen seats that went to Democrats, you know, they're still continued to be an attack on Planned Parenthood and attack on access to safe legal abortion. And it's, it's ludicrous, and it's not where the people are. So it's not where people are even in Texas. And so how do you make that leap, because that's a big know? I mean it's like. The American electorate is so frigging confusing. Yeah. But I think in Texas as its own unique example, but it's not that dissimilar from other states, the states completely gerrymandered, right? The district's have been drawn along completely partisan lines with a congressional delegation. We have a house of representatives that isn't even Representative of the of the two parties. You looked at. I mean, bentos race in Texas. He almost beat Ted Cruz in the United States Senate race. It was a very close race. But you never would know that if you look at the actually the representation, and so I think what Yvan is really is saying, is that, you know, you have all of these voters who literally are not represented. Their wishes aren't represented in the state legislatures and in congress. And that is in many ways not to lead everything back to supermajority, but that is really why we formed is because if women don't now aggregate, their political power demand, what they what they want and need we're going to still be basically left the side, we do all the work where the vast majority of voters were all the volunteers, we run the. Phone banks and rice. All the heavy lifting. They do. Absolutely one hundred percent. And this older woman, said to me, an Iowa, the other day, she said, look, I know what's going to happen. She says, I'm going to run the phone banks. I'm gonna run the block walking, but I'm working in a system built by men for men in. It's time we changed the rules on the system. Okay. So Yvonne, the truth is, is that we are all watching, how reproductive rights again. I'm having that freakout moment is I'm like, how old m I because I remember saying this when I was what fourteen or at cetera. So they're becoming part of the twenty twenty race. Maternal mortality is being talked about, so in that sense, it's a positive candidates like Kamla Harris and Elizabeth. Warren are bringing that up. The latest news, of course, is where Joe Biden was the only candidate to say that he supported the Hyde amendment. And then he backtrack after getting criticism. I want us to listen to Warren's response to Biden support of the Hyde amendment is. I've lived in America, where abortions were illegal and understand, this wouldn't still got abortions. Now, some got lucky on what happened and some really unlucky on what happened. But the bottom line is there, were there and the Hyde amendment under everyone if these efforts to try to chip away or to push back or to get rid of Roe versus Wade, understand this women of means, we'll still have access to abortions who won't we'll be poor women. We'll be working women, we'll be women who can't afford to take off three days from work. We'll be very young women. We'll be women who've been raped. We'll be women who have been molested by someone in their own family. We do not pass laws that take away that freedom from the women who are most. So that's her speaking on all the news Hayes, and, you know, I think it's really important. Of course, and you both know this is to kind of center this on. It's also simply an issue of right to privacy, which is what Ruth Bader Ginsburg, always brings it back in terms of the supreme court. But Yvonne, how do you think that this is going to play out in terms of the twenty twenty race? And is it twenty twenty or nineteen seventy right? But how do you think it's going to play out in terms of the candidates? Well, I think Biden reversed his position because it was very clear. He had made a mistake. It's a measure, that would basically ban federal funding for Russian right? Right. That's exactly. Right. And who are impacted, and I think that, that was important point that you're making it as low income women, it is women of color is women who are marginalized, and I have to say, you know, fifty years ago in, in San Antonio, in San Antonio, has my grandmother died at the age of forty two of couple of months after delivering. Her eighth child. Wow. So when you talk about access, and you talk about today, so fifty years later, you know, women are I think we have a more likely to die after childbirth than our mothers. So the idea that that is the country that we live in today. How far it, we advanced that is tragic. And in voters understand that you talked about maternal mortality, actually, you know, coming up in debate, and as far as I'm concerned, it's not coming up enough. How is this even possible? And so I think that women, no, this women are getting active and women are demanding that, that candidate specifically presidential candidates are speaking to these issues. I mean you just heard Elizabeth Warren. You have Kamala Harris. You have other women candidates is that part of the reason as well. Does it feel like the issue is being forced upon more because they're women candidates in the streets? There's there's more one hundred per cent. I mean issues that never get talked about in the presidential conversation or happening now. Because of the women you mentioned and others, and it's not only look women are not single issue voters. We are. We're not a monolith, but it's not only abortion reproductive healthcare access access to, to childcare, we have no childcare plan in this country. The fact that Comal is now raising the fact that teachers are working at sub minimum wages, and two thirds, or three quarters of teachers are, of course, women that the minimum wage hasn't been raised in ten years, two thirds of minimum wage workers women these kinds of issues that, frankly, until we had a group of women running for president. These are issues that never raised and that the political pundits never talk about because of course, they're usually men as well. So this is a refreshing time, I think this is a moment of where women are actually being noticed, not as simply the worker bees in elections. Not as simply, you know, the folks who will do everything, but women are saying we were fifty four percent of the electorate in two thousand eighteen and you can't get elected president of the United States. Unless you address the issues that women care about. So I wanted to tell this story 'cause I've been thinking a lot about Missouri. So this was right after the murder of Dr tiller. Yep. In Kansas, and I end up going to Colorado to see to be with Dr Hearn, who is the only? Well, now, I guess, maybe three other doctors in the United States who perform abortions later in pregnancy. Right. He had federal marshalls everywhere. Right. Because he has death threats on his life all these doings medical procedure. Very complicated one, and I'm meet this woman there who's like twenty six and this is what she said. She's I'm from Missouri. I'm a single mom, I got pregnant in high school. I have like a four or five year old. I'm back in college. And I'm working and I got pregnant, she was going to get the abortion from Dr tiller when he was murdered. And then she ends up having to go to Dr Hearn, and she was just, like I will die if I have another child right now, I can't this immoral decision. I would have done it when it was six weeks, if I had access if I had money if I and instead she's now putting. You know, issue sympathetic character or not who cares. This is her decision, and ultimately, it is a private decision. Yeah, I can't stop thinking about Missouri, and this one young woman, and how many others like her just now have no options. Well, I think a couple points and one that you made, which was really important that Elizabeth Warren made. And that is the Roe versus Wade decision didn't create abortion, abortion existed. It just wasn't safe and it wasn't legal and young healthy. Women died in emergency rooms across his country. And while I was at Planned Parenthood, I met doctors routinely, who would tell me stories of having done rotations in the residency and seeing young women die. And they will and I will will never we'll never go back there again. So the point is actually worth the lowest rate of abortion, since the road decision largely because we did such a good kick ass job. Honestly, getting birth control in the Affordable Care Act. But now we would be absolutely taking. Way that right. And I went to Dr tillers funeral. He was really an amazing man. He just was I it's hard to even capture his spirit and kindness and empathy for women. But his message was trust women, and I just feel like if this US congress and any elected official would just take that under advisement and just trust women women make the best decision and all pregnant people make the best decision for themselves. Hey Julio, and we media are so excited to once again, partner with summer stage for their two thousand nineteen season in New York City. The lineup is filled with two hundred performers from around the world, including southside jazz. Opera rock and many, many others. If you're in the New York City area, join us for food, doodo media. Sponsored concerts on July, tenth and August. Second eleven and eighteen. For more info, please visit summer stage dot org. C their New York. And if you're in the thick try our sister podcast, Latino USA this week, it's down with Senator Cory Booker to talk about is twenty twenty candidacy. They have a conversation about immigration policy, and his response to critics, and even talks about his relationship with actress was REO Dawson subscribe to let the USA wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to in the thick. I might gain a whole set with my co host Julia Rica data. We're joined by Cecile Richards and Yvonne Gutierrez, let's jump back to the conversation. So let's talk about power and women and, and super majority, and to seal you founded this organization earlier this year, April, along with PLO of the national domestic workers lions and leash Garcia of black lives matter because you, you wanna take action politically and the goal. Right. Is you want to train women to clean their space in politics ahead of twenty twenty and then the other thing that you guys emphasized from what I what I've seen and read is inclusion intersection, especially among women of color, and also women of different economic backgrounds, so why this new organization now says he'll I mean it just feels like it to me it feels like a natural extension of the work that you've done why the push now. Just don't say Trump. I'm just kidding. No, nobody is actually think that's so important because actually women's motivation is so far, beyond this president and I so grateful, that Nigerian who have a lot going on in their lives said we have to do this. We cannot it. We have to take this moment, where women are on fire raising their hands everywhere you go, whether it's on book tour, whether you're on a college campus women are just saying, I want to do more just tell me what I'm supposed to be doing. And really that was the whole idea behind supermajority that everyone all these women's groups were organizing in their own little areas. Yvonne, I laugh because she's dealing with, like, so many hundreds of women's groups around the country, and there was like red wine and blue in Cincinnati, and the bad ass bathes, bay city, and I it's like more name their amazing. Yvonne can tell you some more affect on ladies as one of them. I know I love it. It's just goofing. Ladies love it. Yes. Don't you love that? But all of them are they? They marched. They. Knitted their pussy hats. Maybe they went to town hall meetings, and now they're saying, okay, we're just getting a taste of what it means to be organizing and working together. And if we could actually pull all of these different groups women working on different issues from different points of view, and we started doing that, and it's amazing. It is incredible. I thought we would find that women were burned out, and they would say, like I'm just so sick of this. But in fact, what they're saying is kind of back to your first point there really wanted to more than resist. They wanna talk about the country. They wanna live in for themselves and their families, and their communities, and they want to build that. And so I do think it's important to point out that supermajority was not created simply around the twenty twenty election. It was created around all the issues that women care about that are always put on the sidelines. Our economic issues are health issues are bodily integrity issues, and we wanna make sure that they aren't on the side, but that actually there in front. And I think to the point, obviously, we're in the middle of a presidential election, where a lot of women who are running are raising up issues that we care about. But. I don't wanna just know what Elizabeth Warren is going to do about childcare with Joe Biden's going to do about childcare more Beto, or birdies, whoever it is. These are not women's issues. These are basic economic issues for more than half the country, and it's time that they get more airtime. So even would is that mean in terms of like people who are organizing like indivisible or they're doing, like, how is that? Or they're, you know, the women's March, like, how is it that an organizer somebody who's like on the fringes shut understand what you guys are doing in supermajority, because they're maybe they're saying, wait? But I'm I'm already doing this. And I'm already doing that. Now, if I'm joining supermajority is that it was at redundant our goal is to really aggregate, the activism, and there is so much happening on the ground and is the seal mentioned, you know, we've got groups that have formed on their own cutback, on ladies, for instance, they meet they get voter lists. They go knock on doors. They do it on their own. And then we've got folks who have plugged into indivisible and other groups and the idea is really like, how are we, you know, collectively coming together, and making real change, and, and making sure that we are? You know how are we getting to scale? How are we actually getting support to many of the women of color leaders who are leading a lot of this work? Do they have the resources in the infrastructure? They need do they have the support. They need to. They have the training they need. And so much of that is at, like, yes, it's, you know, it's happening. But how can we as supermajority really lift up those voices and lift up, those leaders and make sure that they have access to what they need to be successful? And again as leaders when I don't know, if you also the running with Bethel, documentary on HBO, but they show the two the two women who are actually leading the volunteer efforts in their communities, especially I think her name was said in the valley and, you know, they are getting it all done asus. You'll mentioned earlier. And so for us, it is how. Are we lifting up these leaders and making sure that they have what they need? There's a lotta great organizing going on. We're we work really closely with indivisible. We've been very close with the women's March. So none of this is to take away any of that. The truth is, though, I think it's like for women were used to basically having a nickel, and everyone sort of dividing it up. And see if we could then run a bake sale. This is the time where women are the overwhelming majority of this country, and it's time we actually think of this as a time of abundance, and not scarcity and particularly for women of color, who you know, they've been doing this work for ever getting zero credit zero attention, right? So I do believe that an I think, look, we all come out of organizing, and I hope you know, playing well with others and the ideas, we don't need less going on. We actually need more going on. And that's what women are saying everywhere is just I've actually just got a taste of this. And now I want to do more. So definitely were feeling like women are doing. I mean just the twenty eighteen mentions like we saw that, right? Right. And in terms of the twenty twenty race, obviously, lots more women than ever before. I mean it's not a novelty anymore. Several of the women are women of color, Kamla, Harris Tulsi Gabbard. So I gotta be honest with you Cecile when I heard that you were stepping down from Planned Parenthood. A true honesty, right? I was like, well, the first thing that happened. I was like, oh my God. I hope she's okay. And then I was like, okay, she's okay. And now he's like, oh my God, she's going to run. She's to run on my what. Right. And you didn't run. And I know that you created supermajority, but I, I just got to ask, will you why don't you? I mean, I know obviously you've been asked before, but I just got to ask it. Yeah. So I just say, I, I didn't step down from Planned Parenthood for any reason other than I feel like it's important for white women in particular, who take up a lot of space in the progressive movement, and the in the world writ large to make space for other folks. And so for me it was important that after twelve years. It was time to move aside, but I am completely committed to not only plan period, but abortion rights, obviously, now more than ever, and I guess, I feel like I am so energy. I'm an organizer like I started as a union organizer organizing like hotel workers in New Orleans and nursing home workers to me bringing power to women letting them realize their full like leadership potential is kind of what frankly, turns me on, I don't need someone to call me, congresswoman or Senator. And I think there's a lot of exciting thing to me is, there's a record number of women who do want to do that. And I look at what's happening in congress. Look at the first two Latinas ever to go to congress. If from Texas insane Escobar, Sylvia Garcia, these are too bad ass. Women. They need our help, like is one thing to go to congress and have all these big ideas is another thing to have like an army of women behind you holding you up, lifting you up. And that to me is I guess that's kind of what I like to do. And that's what I see supermajority doing. Thing. But yeah, I mean I could run for office. It's true. But I feel like my real passion is organizing, and as long as I have folks like Yvonne that are willing to let go on this path. I'm excited to get up every single day and do this work, but I'm just saying, Cecile you know, there was a community organizer that round years ago, just say an organizer to so von, what's, what's your take on the twenty twenty election campaign so far? I think that where women are concerned. There's just not enough. There is not an there are not enough conversations about the issues that are important to women. There are not there's not as much of a focus to seal and I were in Michigan and meeting with some women in one woman said, to us, you know, it's like we've got candidates who come in, and then they come and talk to women about, you know, whether it's like reproductive health, or just one single issue. And then they go in, they address the full union men body about about taxes and income and an about economics and, and just completely avoid that with women. So I think that is unfortunate and. That's true. Symptom of, of the world that we live in and why super majority is so important that we are lifting up the issues that are important to women, including the economy and healthcare, etc. And we cannot avoid or ignore that. And I think that many candidates, I mean, they can be definitely doing a better job of addressing these issues of talking to women and of lifting women leaders up in the community that are actually doing the work, which honestly, we don't see enough of and what we as the two of, you know, very well who is doing the reporting, you know, it is typically colder white men. Yup. And the stats are there, still and even now nothing has really changed. I think one thing, too, and Yvonne might Bill delake shed some light on this. But to me, the interesting thing is if you, if you do look at the role mien there's been a lot of coverage of what white women did in the presidential election. And how a plurality of them voted for Donald Trump. The interesting thing, actually, on that Maria kazaa a stat, that's not as reported as much as actually white women in this. Last election in two thousand eighteen broke evenly for the parties, which was a frankly, a very sort of a radical shift, but the growing importance of not only people of color as voters, but women of color, and the explosion of Latino participation let next participation in the last election is something I it's, it's, it's under reported and one of the things that worries me is when you look at who's doing the reporting, you know, if we don't tell in lay of the public, the role that women of color are playing then it just goes to the sideline. And so I think that to me is an exciting and important thing to be lifting up right now because that's why people begin to feel like, okay, you know, that new congress I built that, you know, I was part of building that. Yeah. So Cecile last year you published a book. It's called make trouble green great title. But this is what you wrote, quote, you wrote right now, our country has a major soul-searching to do, we have to figure out how to address the fear and disruption that many people are feeling. And continue to fight for the rights of women immigrants, LGBTQ people, people of color, and anyone else who needs support to do that. We're going to have to ask tough questions, speak clearly about what we believe, and maybe even let go of the political labels that have defined these kinds of debates for too long. So you know it's been a year. So what in your view has changed? A Nancy Pelosi is the house speaker, lots of progressive women of color, entering congress. But on the other hand, you know, it's the horror, right? You know, states are banning abortions hate crimes are on the rise. Migrants are dying in detention centers. So it's like the two headed monster where where is this country headed? I know. And I think that is why women have been activated in a way like I have never seen an all my life as an organizer because it used to be as an organizer you would go and try to convince people. Okay. There's a problem and we could solve it. If we all get together. This is the absolute flip on that. It is that millions of women are saying, we can do better. This is not the country, I believe in, in the sense of, of the policies of this administration, and, and so on. So I actually feel like women are now why I think some of this these horrific policies, you know, obviously a lot of this at this administration, but in many ways, Forty-five, he's just a symptom. This is he is not. He is not at right. If you took him away the issues of race that we haven't dealt with class misogyny, the patriarchy, this is a big pitch battle right now about what kind of country do we wanna live in, and I actually without being EMMY there's a lot of folks. Put in there or in the water doing a lot of work. I think women are the best chance we have to actually turn things around, and I think that there's a powerful force and what I don't want to do is wake up in ten years, and say, got that March, we had that was amazing. And then nothing ever actually happened, and that is to say nothing against the, the folks, that have led the women's March and continue to organize we need them, and we need a lot more to. And that's really why I've kind of I guess, throw myself into this. Is that I think women can change the world and they are slowly, but surely, Yvonne, what are you? What's your thought about where this country's heading the two headed monster? Well I mean yeah we'll do ended. Munster is right. And I think that, you know, we have to look forward and as bleak as, as the picture is. And, you know, I have to tell you in Texas, and, you know, my mom will call me and tell me about new buses that have arrived of families from the border that, you know, where other communities. I've ever really stepped in stepped in to help and it's, it's tragic. But what can we be doing? I think is really where we have to focus and I look at, you know, women of color, I mean, I feel like black women have been getting it done as far as getting out to vote. And as far as you know what is it like something like ninety five percent of like women are supporting democratic candidates and candidates at stand with their values and the increase than the Latino turnout is also significant right? And we've seen that, you know, in, especially in Texas. They feel like it more than doubled over twenty fourteen so we have opportunity, and I really feel like that is where my head is that is where, you know, an supermajority is working to go. Is that how are we activating more women to change? What is happening because no one can stand it anymore. Look bottom line here is there's been a group of people in charge of this country for ever since its inception, and that's white men, and they are just beginning to see what it looks like when people are women. When young people rise up and, and it's ugly. It's I mean you see. It's ugly that is. I don't think any of us should mistake as as Gloria Steinem famously says, no one gives away power without a fight. And that's that is what is happening. I think that's why we've got to be in that fight. I do believe that most people in this country, do not believe in what's happening with this government, but it's on us as organizers to make sure we actually pull that together, and I'll tell you, if we add super majority can get two million women by next summer trained connected, you know, educated on issues feeling confident, and they can then reach out to millions more. It'll be the biggest turn of women voters in the history, the United States of America, and that's going to change everything. Onto our final segment which we call binge worthy. Or essentially, what are you binging on? All right. So something that you've watched read listen to maybe it's a piece of poetry journalism, something even a Twitter thread cecelia's like, oh my God. Oh my God. Oh, my is getting very nervous, Yvonne. We're going to go to Yvonne Cecile is going to sweat a little bit more. No, it's, it's funny. And, and I think because you know, I feel like there's so many things everybody's always binging or, or watching something or listening. But what has been getting me through has been Oprah Super Bowl Sunday? I'm not gonna lie. That is in just when you need just a break from like everything because, you know, I you know, also a news junkie, and I, I listen to NPR twenty four seven and I listen to all of it. But sometimes Oprah Super Bowl Sunday, they've just got some really good just speakers. And just really people who are focused in on like you, you feel like such a joyful human being. Joy is a high frequency. You talk a lot about being positive, and you have spoken about how just being negative is actually lazy, and positively, as you know to is a higher frequency. It's reaching for the higher ground all the time. Are you always in the joy space news? Okay. I'm night and day black and white. Do you have to work at it? Absolutely every day. Now, are you healthy and ours, ours? You like, really like you event. Exactly. Sometimes you just need a little Oprah to make you feel better. Right. We're gonna we're gonna give Cecile more time to sweat Julio. Do you have one that you wanna share? I mean, I've moved away from vampire weekend and now the luminaires have a new album, three songs at a New Jersey. I love that band. I just love getting new summer music and just like playing it constantly. So I bet your teenage son loves that to Julio both great band. You're both right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I get a lot of crap for my music choice. But now I have some in the guests who agree with me. So I'm happy. Pick up on that because I don't really bench on TV. I don't even I'm actually amazed that people can find the time to do that. But I'm kind of obsessed with this Cuban drummer, who plays actually right near here pity to Martinez. He's amazing. And I just got to see him a jazz fest in New Orleans, and he plays. I think here at the red rooster on Thursday nights. He's my fav-. I listened to him. I mean, I've, I've been to see him. So many times one night, actually Ruben blades shows up. You know, it's like he's the real thing, Mr.. No. This was actually done in old club called Rosa. But unfortunately it closed so I think now he's at the rooster. But hey he, he should have. Once he could show up again. Angeliki Joe showed up one night guy has got some friends that have some real next time you go out. You're going to have to call me and say, I'm coming up to Harlem to. I will listen to busy, though. I will I love him. He's adorable to watch also not bad to look at. And but he's got a wife thirty years. It was just in the New York Times. I learned it. Know that myself. All right. So what I'm doing. What are you doing? I'm so late to the game. I'm now been on Jane, the virgin. I'm sorry. Game my daughter rode her junior paper on let 'em in 'isms about Jane, the virgin and actually reproductive rights and abortion and sexuality, and I was like, okay, I really need to watch this now. And so that's my little. Richards co-founder of supermajority and author and former head of Planned Parenthood. Yvonne with the head of the community engagement at supermajority. Thank you, both so much for joining me on this edition of in the thing. Thank you so much. 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Episode 661: Yvonne Orji

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Episode 661: Yvonne Orji

"From the creators, relevant magazine. This is the relevant podcast. It's Tuesday, November twenty seven two thousand eighteen and it's relevant podcast. I'm your host gamer Strang in here with me in early in two years. Our Leicester's engineer to my brother Chandler, starring on the Skype line from Gainesville, Florida. Big cat. Hey may Christmas. Guard. They're these. Israel, Tennessee, either Huckabee everybody and merry Christmas. Just down the street, author podcasters speaker cowgirl extraordinarily NF downs. Get more in dance Christmas, can I mend? My my welcome. Please. Pitched me again real fast on this guy. Blind from Gainesville, Florida. Big cat. Eddie Coughlin's what happy holidays? I'm taking Christ. We're. Now, it's not multiple. You can throw New Year's in there. Hannukah Hannukah true. Wow. I like I like the idea of having Stevens saints December. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of holidays last quarter of the year. Everyone. Join just this period of time. You've been in Christmas mode now for about six weeks. It still shows your your house still looks very festive. I'm budgeted all the way up, and it feels good to be here with you. I was wondering I mean, I knew the day after thanksgiving was obviously what was your actual day. Tyler. It's always it's always the day after thanksgiving. Huckabee rigs household always go get a tree that day. The whole thing happens that day, I go to bed by the time. We went to bed the day after thanksgiving. It was all done trees up late on the house lights out in the house to you're working all day, you're outside you're slept on the roof. Right. Because we got our inside team are outside team. And then we have a floater so evil float between the two gosh inside. Got a lot of happen. It's an efficient home a couple couple of weeks ago. I was at the I was down at the mall hanging out with my buds at the mall. And this is still this was over in. This is operatives. Before thanksgiving. And I was I know was a couple of days before thanksgiving, and I was strolling through and they have the North Pole Santa situation up already at that point. And you can't imagine a sadder site in the mall bene- Santa sitting there with kids walking by looking like it's not Christmas yet. Not respected. And you have a lot to do you need to get busy man sitting around waiting for these presents. They're going to build every selves, man. What are you doing was alone? There'd be a line now. Now now. Yeah. But still there. Let's he resigned gave up just in depression. Talk to Cohen is going to be a voice or ask him a question now. Well, actually, yeah. Little surprise. We're recording this on a day. My my son Cohen is out of school Coen's on on the headphones. Cohen you wanna say hi on the Mike right there. You wanna pull that over to you? Question for calling. Okay. To tell me when is the right time to decorate for Christmas. When is it? Like what day is the right? They win is too early. When is it too late? What's the right day to decorate for Christmas? We did talk about this. Because we were at Home Depot, aren't you after thanksgiving to giving? Wow. We were at Home Depot before thanksgiving. And he was like why are the Christmas? She's already here. I mean, he was like incredulous and on my buddy. I don't know. There's like AMI longtime pal probably the day after thanksgiving. You think that weekend? Yeah. Yeah. We want to soak in as much as we can. But we don't want to be too early. Like anne. That's what I say. Ever you want? Whatever you want goes early July. Go for. About my neighbor's leave their Christmas tree be around. So. That is wild. Oh, yeah. You can. In their window. It's red threat. So it's not like just a tree with white lights on it is an actual Christmas. Tree festival. It's you know, it's it's fake. Obviously, it's plastic. But that is wildly messed up at super weird. When we talk about that. Did I tell you one time in college? We kept one up for a whole year. We just changed it seasonally. We ain't it to Valentine stree-. Two. Well, yeah. What is a Valentine's tree has like Hartson Steph arts all over it. And we just like pink and red and white garlicky kind of look and stuff that we bought it Michael's or some craft store, and then the people who like decorate their redecorate the home for every holiday season. But that is not better that is. We're still I'm appreciating our partnership with bright peak. And I think a lot of questions about somebody who budgeted fair we were like six college sophomore 's. And so we didn't make any any wise decisions really disturb. Sorry. Well together every month. And you're like, all right. We got man. We got short on grocery money again, I'm gonna pull from mature. I mean, we can't take the president's coming right up three hundred that wouldn't just make you feel so weird to have a trip all around the year. Now feel so weird in my own house. Just like this. I mean, there's no punchline to this just feels so. Three years ago. Yeah, it's been it's been several years one year of my thirty eight years on the planet. I did it once. So it clearly wasn't a feeling that I wanted to state around but really liked it and that twenty to twenty one window. It was it was really kitschy and find him cute. The fellas loved there's also a dust thing. Like, yeah. You don't clean you. But yeah, yeah. You have to clean that tree. They have to get in there, which actually, you know, they don't, but they should get in there with a little brush, and you know, vacuums deal and get it all cleaned. But that thing is just that is just an allergy bomb. If it's not a real tree, you can just take it outside. Turn the hose on sprayer down dry out overnight and take it back in your good to go the next month. That's a once a week situation and your take outside and hose it down to as opposed to Eddie's talking about it's ridiculous. Pledge of the little doubt yard is going on in your air quality in your home that you need to go hose down. I'm going to string it up like a hog. Time. You're Nebraska showing right now. Every once in a while just do a walk around the primer of their house and make sure there's not like a shack with a ventilation thing at the top. And no windows on a lock on the door. I don't want to say with Cohen. Trying to give any the nonverbal sons on your phone. Listening to this all the parents driving in the car right now at their kids like that. Around. Cowan would you have a Christmas tree up in your house year round? No, no. It's weird. A man with principals understand the world has it should be things in the right order. That's right. I like him. He's one of my friends. I love. Hey. We have a great store few today. Not only this Cohen joined this, but Yvonne orgy joins us. She's one of the stars of HBO's show insecure. She's a strong Christian and her her character on the show. Maybe would not be in line with her belief system. And it's an interesting. It's an interesting story. Interesting conversation that we feel about being on this show. I know. Sheet principles for the dollar. I will tell you though, I was doing an interview the other day and ask the question that I get asked every single time anyone ever made me, which is how were you you on the relevant show and on the new activists like SIS. Hurson? It's just we all have different kinds of parts of our personality. Someone that seems to be so crazy on one can be a little less crazy. That's right. Thank you for making the sacrifices on this show. We do appreciate. And I've gained some friends and lost and brain cells. And I'm thrilled to be here. So. Isn't gonna pay the member of the decorations are going to pay for themselves. So gains are friends loss of brain cells. I'm happy to be here. College colon. Britain cells to be here. That's probably how I am just about everywhere. That's really funny. Well, the show along its Tuesday show is time for slices. What do you have any? Well, I have had a pretty strong rule. My many years on the show did not bring any like of those hacky kind of slices about like, oh crazy criminal and wherever did something. But, but there is an unsolved mystery happening right now, and it may end up being criminal that is. Well, it's just too perfect. And I have to bring it up. So that maybe some friends can help with it. Okay. So friends in Arizona, there is a mystery happening foot that that you need to be a part of their is a bird rescue and rehabilitation center in Arizona, and it is called fallen feathers. Of course, that's not the joke. But we do need to workshop that name, but they. Right. All birds need to be rescued. And so this little think fallen feathers all birds need to be rescued. Yeah. From the air, it will I generally don't and I'm just going to be a hot take. I don't care about birds. To the whole species. People are not of. Care about birds. You dislike birds a phobia thing or it's like birds terrified faces completely new drilling. Somebody is like, oh, look there's a look up in the tree. There's a hawk okay, that's a hawks and the tree of that's where hawks live, but people seem to be really into birds. But have you seen the birds of prey do their thing? That's kind of cool. Yeah. The talents come out cool. Cool. Attack posture? I'm very into birds, but I'm into anything. I'm not I'm not I'm not a bird guy either at all, right? But but I've in the last year moved to water, and I'm saying a whole lot of bird things. I didn't see before. And it's really crazy and interesting in I'm living, the National Geographic Discovery Channel thing. And it's generally if the hawk is sitting on a fence post. Okay. But if the hawk is like plucking, squirrel out of your backyard. Well, that's worth seeing. Birds like fly over the lake and they're like looking because it's clear water. They can see the fish right, then you'll see them plunged down at full speed in like go like into the water. Yeah. And then like dive down, and then grabbed the grab the fish and then fly away they come right and fly. It's crazy. Gosh later. Later fly out with the fish with the fish, and there'd be it's a pretty incredible thing can see Cohen. You'll see it happen. Yeah. Then we have like offers that live in front of our house, and we have these huge cranes, and they perch on the dock, and then they. The craziest ones are the birds swim like the birds, not ducks, but like birds underwater, that's crazy. The stall is hang out in our pool, ducks always hang out. Yeah. I saw that on the sopranos too. You've probably seen that show at gone. Have a real breakdown. Wait their birds that swim. I've never heard this not been on this planet awhile. What? And just see like ducks on the duck duck their heads like poking on the water, and it's like birds that are down there like fishing under the swimming underwater and stuff and then they hold on. Hold on. I have to stop the whole show. Yeah. Any you've never seen birds that also swim. You in Cohen are correct. I've seen a dut, but there's like dogs that are in the water a lot of birds. Sky birds swim. That's right. Birds that fly that also swim. This. Majority of birds. A sky bird is a painless swimmers. We don't know for certain eagles would go down and grab fish with their talons. Would you call fish swim fish, or would you just call them water fish, right? Story about a fish. If you're telling me a story that they were fish that were flying. I mean, though, there is a flying fish. But that would be the the duck of the air. I get it. That would be the version of fish. I like the duck of the air alledged. You're a little bit. Like, I'm struggling to put it all together. But. Coming back for me that that normal sky birds like a hawk or eagle, they will sometimes look out on their pine and only and see them swimming around like, they're all friends and only their heads are poking up out of the water. I've never known a bird to do that. You're coming down and December. I will make sure to point out in my backyard. The see that little head head. These are birds that are swimming underwater, swimming, and they're coming up for air. And then they go back down. I mean, every time you say sky birds realize, here's what this show does to someone and anti. We're coming up on one year of you here. We're getting ready for it. But here's what this show does every single week. There's just a little tiny peek into a different part of the brain. And so far over this year. It's been like she knows a lot about that. Oh, interesting. She's able to navigate that situation. But apparently, we just opened up a door to just an empty room and the doors label knowledge of birds. Caster stored narrow cowgirl wanna be avian novice. Any there was ducks and bald eagles, and those are the only two apparently there are others. And she. So just surprise for first of all I'm not implying. I'm saying stating directly second of all you're just building your own case. And I don't wanna get Patino. I heard protein say as it pertains to the slice. Do you know what a pigeon ass-? Would you call that an air bird? Agree with me, isn't a pigeon aski- bird Cohen. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Showing? Showing? Completing land birds city birds. That's true. They walking around on the ground. Most birds made his way through a majority of elementary school. So he understands a lot V sky birds and water fish or whatever. So listen phone feathers out of Arizona gets a call. The lady says the lady who calls fallen feathers says, hey, there's a pigeon outside of my house, and it's got like something on it. I need your help. Well, fallen feathers apparently is not full-service because the advice that fallen feathers gives to this person that calls is well just trap the bird and bring it in which let's just pause. There would you know, how to trap a pigeon. Nope. Nope. No. It'd be that hard. Do you think what the heck? Generally. I what were you saying? How would you travel pigeon? If it had something like bad on it. It would probably be pretty easy. It was. It was something on it. Oh, weighing it down. I don't know if you've read my slice, but you've the right point because this person was easily able to trap the pigeon because the pigeon apparently was adorned so they bring this pigeon in and it turns out that someone created for it a vest people put vests on pigeons so that they can keep them as pets. It's so that they act as diapers. So essentially a couple of months ago, you brought a chicken and a diaper. Yeah. This this van always gets me. And this. Right foul plus diaper, plus bird, plus air bird. Skype or whatever she said. Remember like, I'm trying to think any was talking about. Well, I know there's fish that fly fish. There's a flying fish. It's a fake. They just jump out of the water. They don't lie. They don't like flop and fly away that those birds swim. Just calling. True. No time. There's only one blind fish can fly for a hundred yards. They can big bay like glide for. The right brothers of of the flying community thing. Find community airplanes severe. Sorry. There is a joke there with a fish, right, brother. And I can't figure. To us. It seems like a pun, right. This is what do you call it? What do you call the Wright brothers? If they were fish. I don't know what do you call him? Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Ether. And I gotta tell you. I don't care when it happens when I get to it. I'm going to say it out loud. So. Just aware that anything deep happens during the show. So anyhow this gin so cone is right. There's a vest on the pigeon. So the pigeon is already moving fast. However, not only did the person keep the pigeon as a pet and put a vest on it. So that when it went to the bathroom it had like a little diaper, but it was a rhinestone encrusted vest. Has taken mcdonagh Shaw. Somebody had taken the time to be Desel best for a pigeon. And now this is the criminal helmet. They are looking for the person the the the the bird sanctuary has posted a picture of the bird, the bird sanctuary clearly has a sense of humor. They posted a screen shot of the bird next Liberace. They posted it on Facebook. And they are searching to see if anyone has lost their bird because they want to talk about why on earth, they have possibly be dissolved birds vest that is my slice. And I will never regret bringing that today because. I have a behind the scenes question for you. Because what you may not have known in the past few months. There's been a real. A slice gate kind of problem. Yeah. I need you to tell me how that is a perfect size that I would have wanted to bring what for real what did you Google? They got you that because I want to do that. I'm not going to tell you the method by which I find myself says, but it is over five six years. I have a few sources, I have a few Google searches. And they never found me his has Google earth for bedazzled vest. In addition. That is the primary sources get musical theater beat. He's going to. His pigeon news, everything you need is also tell you insider tip you've been here for year. It's time for you to have this tip about slices. Never when they ask what your slices never tell them you want you. And you'd be ready to sell it because I had to really sell this pitch because this this because when you really step back a lady dazzle lady found a pigeon with the bedazzled vest and turned it in. That's the whole slice assumption that lady made that bet. No, no, lady and turned it. And yeah, I saw this hit the news a few days ago, and the story that I saw was that the local authorities are on the hunt for the person the owner of the pigeon with the bedazzled vest because they have some questions have they have they found the owner of the dazzled. I you know, that I don't read farther than the one story I've found. And if you to go on your on this, I am not a real journalist. Now, they are they are honest for the owner of the desert vest pigeon. It's a big deal. Yeah. As of yesterday at one PM when this story was filed no angry here. The the who's on the search like the police care that much about a pigeon, an invest to great question pigeon is probably the most angry I think violating a few rules. I don't know there. If someone took time to bring a law about pigeons advas- to their government. I've made have worked making be doing. I mean, it could be kind of I could see there being a case being made for some sort of anal cruelty. But also, I could see a case being made for just being awesome best. That's not right. There's so many rhinestones in the world. Probably worried about the slippery slope one pitch. Interesting stone best whether or not there's a lot of pigeons out there. But if this big invest maker kinda gets their own cock stone care next thing. You know, this lady walked out of her house, the next more money pigeon. None of them can fly just laying in or just an entire show choir. There's just this guy birds everywhere with this. Pigeon that stylish pivot it's not pigeon. Jerry cohen. Eagles slowing goes. All right. What do you have Tyler? All right. So I this is something that I have. This was my big last Tuesday was my birthday turn thirty four years old and thirty four. Yeah. I I. I don't want to license now that birthday, but where the. Where the one hundred percent when I turned thirty three. I set a goal for myself. That I that I did not achieve that goal. Try. It was very it was a little thing was just a hydrate. More is do you guys is drinking water regularly? A part of your like gotta make sure I get my eight glasses or whatever everyday. Yes. You're a lot about right now. You usually have one every day. Yeah. Every when I'm when I'm here big hydrated. I am. But I like of all the things in my life that just fail miserably on because I try to do it water. Just comes naturally. I just feel like I need a lot of water to not feel like I have a sore throat all the time. Yeah. So I just drink a ton of water. Yeah. So it's not really an interesting story. But I feel like people wanna three dimensional picture of. Curious because I think it's something that you you hear like your mom always tells you to make sure you're drinking a lot of water they'd say, it's really good for your skin. I don't know. I wanna tell water bottle soon as you started talking about how his in hydrated. I'm had I don't do it very. I'm not good at it. But I'm better at it than some people though there Tyler I will I will interrupt though, because we're getting a little bit into a standup it here, but I'm not really trying to work out material. But I have thought of this before which is. Like, my kids have to take a water bottle everywhere. They take a water bottle the school. Really? Yeah. Always backpacks. Always have a water bottle always school. You the kids all have their own water bottle. But what I'm saying is I didn't have my first water bottle until I was least graduated from college and probably married in my life. Like didn't you drink from water fountain with everybody else? Like why everybody's so hydrated nowadays? Anyhow, that's my time. Thanks so much. Make sure that later. I was home schooled. Nobody was forcing meted hit carry a water bottle around the house. We had too many other things going on where to learn. Evolution was false. To fight on the tree in the yard. Yeah. She had to clean it or artificial trees once a month out of the front yard, so Drake something else you had to look through the book of ducks that can also like birds can also be in the water. It was a very big book because there's a lot of birds because if we had time for water at the end of the day, we were lucky be considered. Yeah. Okay. Sorry joked about this. But this is actually the so there was a woman who lived in who lives still she's alive. Thankfully, who lived in Monaco. She's thirty one years old. And she as it turned out went to the hospital. She has she had to go to the ER because she has not had a drink of water since she was fifteen years old drink soda exclusively for the last decade and a half Cameron. I hope you hear this passive aggressive. Directed anybody. This is not a sub list. Just I the first one to say, I don't hydrate enough. I came out of the gates with that. She hasn't had a sip of water in fifteen years. She fainted a blood tests show that she had severely low potassium levels and a test of her heart's electrical activity, should she had a condition called lung q t syndrome, which causes Radic heartbeats long. Emphasize the wrong syllables, it's Cutie cuties. In english. Eighty Schutte since syndrome. I mean that makes sense to me. It's so dear as a soda drinker. Yeah. She doesn't think she's got you be two leaders day of. So gosh, what choice. Do you know? It doesn't say. And I see I'm sorry. But that that to me does not sound like a lot yesterday. I had four four leaders of the problem. Yeah. Store bought three two leaders yesterday. And I have one left, and then we also went out last night. So. Even cone. Your own son. Angel of young man alive by your soda drinking. Wait Cameron you drink to leaders of diet coke. It was it was a weekend. So you have some space. Yeah. Yeah. Two two liters. Well, it's because I have these big, you know, when you go to a basketball game or anything arena, you can buy the souvenir cups at the soda, right? You want? Well, the magic every year give me the collection of magic souvenir cups because I think because I like them, and I actually use those in my home so just glass of soda. It's one of those massive giant cups. And so I'm like, oh, I just have a Cup of diet coke, but it's actually like a bottle of diet coke. Your leader in. Did you think anything else yesterday too? I mean, did you drink any water or any in the morning, I had coffee, and that's all. Yeah. We don't have under construction right now. But I mean, the lady made it, right? So like once every ER with Cutie syndrome. Within two weeks. She stopped being within two weeks. The problem that resolved itself. It's an easy fix, right? Yeah. I need to get healthy. I drink like you guys. I'll drink a ton of water no soda, and so we've seen the cycle a few times. I'm bad at drinking. I needed accountability. Part. I need once we. What do you drink soda? I don't drink soda. I drink. I drink a fair amount of coffee. Oh, man. You just. Hydrating drink. Yeah. It's it's bad. I'm telling I'm confirm. Confirm this lies to be honest. This is a cry for help. I sure it. This is like Christmas yet to come some future in this moment is going to be me. She's doing it for your thirty four year. If you're I mean, don't don't shoot for hydration again 'cause you fail. Don't go back to the same. Well winner is that is that your actual advice. Like if you failed once too bad do. If there wasn't meant to do. Yeah. So how did you determine what more was when you said, you were going to hydrate more? How did you determine how do you know you failed? Well, it was it was very obvious in my day to day life that I was failing. But I wanted to do I wanted to do six classes of water a day that was school. And I didn't even I it's hard to if if I told you how much I failed. You think I was exaggerating for the show, but it was pretty bad. You should get those souvenir cups like cameras there in December just come back with a magic Cup and just drink two of those day, and you're done. That's true. Can I go to imagine game time in Orlando and you can hook magic game with Karen, so bad. I saw that you embarrassed Cohen with your yelling. And I was like I want to be there. I want to say it really did house like to had stall. But also Anne you need to get ready because there's. Unlimited soda cookies hot dogs. Yeah. Hi dogs. They bring on we have a waitress, and she just brings you chicken nuggets. Nachos cookies, whatever you want unlimited. It's crazy. For theater at the mines Cohen, literally just went and got us soda. Just talking about it. And I can help you. Me. Shutdown because Andreessen so. So by way of quick review of a pigeon, Worby dazzled vest lady didn't drink enough water. Anne. That only the Holy Spirit could pull together. The mix of both. I'd like to tell you that in Maldives, you'll know the Maldives it's like real busy islands off of in Indian Ocean. They opened the first underwater hotel. Wow. All the slices together. Away, you can see at an underwater hotel. Yeah. Fish, fish and birds. Waterbirds waterpark Brent's. This is know, I know. Okay. So let me tell you about this hotel. It is sixteen feet under water. Right. So it is way deep down and educate. Imagine they're all the ceiling and the walls are all glass. There is because it is boosy and luxury the all the linens are super nice, but it's just a bed and a bathroom, and there's some other amenities that like where there's a private jam in a bar, and there's an under there's an Infinity pool. Well, which is just a Butler's quarters. Thank you, very much an ocean faith, sing bath to me to be a pool you can just like go outside in your in the ocean, right out. They'll call and you can't go out that way because it's closed off. How do you get to it? Let's get to it. It said elevator. That goes down. You check in on the land m rating Gatorade land the dream. This was like this. When I was a kid. It was like we're going to have underwater cities, and we're gonna have space exploration normal. You know, what I mean like, I just assumed that there would be these. There was a ride at Disney called the living seas. And it was like I under one say exploration base. Like this. You know, like why what? Yeah. Guess how much one night is one night it so the top floor. Here's the other way. You get. There's an elevator thing. But the top floor of your villa is above the water and has a really dang can go up to the top floor. You're above water. And then there's then it goes all the way down to sixteen feet got an underwater. I'm sure this would be an unforgettable experience. But does anybody else like this thing solely exists to inspire? Dwayne Johnson movie in about five years. Crapping. Crack happens you start at the very very bad to fight as wave it being invaded by space pirates or something like that needs to get per night. Make your guesses gents. Okay. One night one nine thousand dollars hundred five hundred dollars. Twenty five thousand twenty five thousand I would say five thousand clams. Fifteen hundred an incredible Strang, ladies and gentlemen, is the closest with fifty thousand dollars. Thousands of dollars half or night minimum. So it is a minimum of two hundred thousand dollar package, but just to make you feel a little bit better about it does include a personal chef and the use of a private boat. Wait a minute. Help me use a boat underwater, right because the very time soars above lower. Go up and go lay out and get a tan and go out on the boat. And then you sleep and eat and live and take a bath down and ride in lint on some deserted island with one person. It's like here now you can check in. Where am I going? Later, you're underwater. Yeah. Yeah. I like it. From the shore. Are we like are you right? You guys are asking me questions like I'm a travel agent. I'm just wondering are you like are there? We have questions who always floating who owns the bedazzled. Wait is we have questions you bring information. I got you can Cameron this is a Hilton property. So in fact, if you book it your auto medically Hilton diamond status just for booking. The owner is Hilton. How far out is it from the land does not say, but you know, the mall also have this floating villas that are out like kind of the thing about the Maldives is you're not really on ground. They have do you think they have why finer there? Oh, thanks gone. Do they have their? I would assume so I'm not paying two hundred thousand dollars not meeting on check my Instagram is new meaning to surf the net. Suns yourself up. You guys listeners need to because the pictures are awesome. I mean, it does look it looks like it costs fifty thousand dollars a night for sure. Well, does anything look like cost fifty thousand dollars that can't be sure of that? But. Okay. So it looks like I'm looking at a picture to answer your question about how far out it is. It looks like it is it's positioned between two private islands. Joined by a footbridge longtime listener as money I've discussed before on here that I have I have a phobia of squid. The thought the thought that I might look out my window in the morning and sees even let's let's. Phobe of squid just glad or is it octopus jelly, Nicole any sort of technical situation. I can't make sense. Like, if you see it like, you can't look at one or like, I can't I can't one if there's a movie situ, I can't I don't I don't like schooling articles about the ocean on the off chance that they have a picture of a squid somewhere. Well, be scrolling in when this come from Eddie, I need your counselor brain to step in here and talk about why he has experience because Nebraska doesn't have a lot of squid. And yeah. Did you receive twenty thousand leagues or whatever as twenty thousand leagues I think is a culprit at the possibility. Disneyl-? Really scared me when I was a kid. And now, I just can't do it at all. So the idea this idea of being in a place where I'm looking out into the because right now, it's very easy to avoid squid in my life. Right. But in a hotel be much, it'd be much more difficult. I couldn't relaxed there, even if you know when when my publishing career really when the online digital writing career makes me into a multimillionaire the option of spending two hundred thousand dollars to go stay here was an up. I don't think I would do. None of you would say there. I would totally a hundred percent kind of percent. I one hundred percents day that I mean, if I didn't have to pay for pretty much anything Chandler is your answers. Yeah. I'll do it. Wealth. Val value qualifier here here. I will also say, you know, that it was not the first underwater hotel. Yeah. I was about to say I feel like I've heard of underwater hotels. Yeah. Key Largo, Florida. The whatever jewels something I've seen it before. It's definitely I under water hotel. Residents opens in Maldives, and this is a. November twenty eighteen article. Well, maybe this maybe their defining it differently because the one in key Largo people have to scuba dive to their room. Oh, yeah. It says, oh this may be because it's a hotel residents because in the first second paragraph. It says more than just a room or a sweet this is the Maldives after also luxuries the name of the game. The two story villa is set more than sixty feet below the Indian Ocean Avila. That's the difference that hotel got it. All right. Well, okay. So we got dazzled pigeons. I mean, it is amazing. How all pulled together. Let's just call that. What it really is. To the hospital in water. Yup. Somebody. The now underwater luxury villa so we've got the whole spectrum here. All right. Well, stay tuned up next. You've orgy joins us. Chaffee that? You're listening to the creator lights on featuring Ryan Beatty in Santa cold at the beginning of the podcast. You heard Stevie Wonder with what Christmas means to me? One interview we've been chasing for a longtime relevant is actor Yvonne orgy who's had a starring role in the HBO comedy insecure or characters one that shows funnier personalities, but it's a pretty explicit part, especially sees one which is the prising considering the actors open faith in Jesus he's even talked openly about how she's going to remain in virgin until marriage. We spoke with Yvonne about how she approaches the role as a Christian in how she lives as a woman of faith in Hollywood. Here's part of our conversation with von orgy sorry in advance for the audio quality. Your character. Molly, she such a compelling person. You know is so I mean, the whole cast is incredible. But you know, I think since the beginning, you know, Molly has been this scene. Stealer. Where where a lot of fans gravitate to what is it about her that you feel like drawl so many fans, then I think offer equal opportunity. The mayor is near faces at a lot of characters because you know, the reality on in. Well, a lot of other weight, and I all ready. Like. In that in that that, and you know, it it only on to watch it this actor train. Don't want to be happy do. Yeah. The hold of now like on now, how similar are you to the character? Molly like what you personally identify with. When it comes to playing her. I mean. On a checking. I am. I think cloud is you know. Dedicates can dance and watch to you know, get what she does that. Info there at the phone nights that I yeah, I feel like that's one of the great thing about the show because especially with millennial audiences of you know, I mean, even the title so fitting, a, you know, a lot of them are in these kind of insecure parts of their life trying to figure out what's the next thing. Relational -i and career wise. It's cool to have a show that makes it, okay? To kind of feel insecure in that position life. I. People didn't know what the call it in terms that like what is this team? You know, it's not. Show like year. This means a couple of. Why here? That oh. Yeah. Anymore identify? What that now it's so interesting because you know, the the show obviously that has some, you know, edgier content, but it's also, you know, the characters really deal with the consequences of their decisions, really interesting ways. And I think ways that, you know, sometimes funny, sometimes cautionary, and sometimes the present all these different kind of outcomes that I feel like in the arc of the story is really positive for maybe people that you know, you kind of grew up with or went to church with what's their reaction to insecure and kind of the different challenges and opportunities. So the characters have in the shell. Why? The show Mary around. I think that. And then I. Like, thank you. Because this show something that was. And like I d bands not favorable though. Like. So, you know, it's all jokes. The. Like. What we want to engage. Engage it like the foundation of light. If they. Choice. That was on orgy if you could understand it. You should read the profile on her which is totally legible in the current issue of relevant out. Now. You're listening to heal worship seasons. I know seasons is also just when their normal worship songs. But if you listen to it it's on the Christmas album. It's it's actually Christmas. Well, as for us, we have been helping you guys solve your life. Conundrums are very Jesse. Carey has been your your life coach, and it's gone. Really? Well, I think we've been doing the Jesse. Has certainly been on the show. This lease injustice absence. We've we've broadened it to to Eddie an Anne answering your life questions. You guys have been hitting us up. And this time for ask Andy. This segment has not gone. Well, so my proposal is that we do this this time, and then we just leave it to Jesse because I thought anti and I would be better at it. Right. But we'll give you one last shot. So this'll be the second. And finale addition of ask and Ian and the next week. I think we should bring back listener the week. I've missed. Cigna just jump in here when you can because I feel like you're sensible person. I dislike to sit yells feet. Let's do it. Let's do it. Feelings. Sara, Rasmussen she she asks us. She says I've started tempting online dating as a twenty three twenty three year old female. This is probably for you any advice to take on match dot com. I actually bought the one year subscription. How much for a year? She's in regardless dollars. One night in the Maldives underwater premium match. Okay. Eddie. I see your wheelspin, and I'm going to leave with something kind of rational. Which is I'd like you to lead any because I feel like this person is asking for actual wisdom here. And all I can think of is things that are terrible. So you go any I'll do I'll do a real short sensible thing. And then y'all can ruin our life after eight doing a year. Hope you aren't on it for a year. But there is a good. There is getting your number's up at meeting. People is good. So don't spend a lot of time trying to get some. No, somebody online do enough that you know, it safe. And that you think it's fun. And then move it forward and go meet him figure out a way to meet him. Don't stay on line for four months talking to eight guys you should be going on dates meet them get to know him. Get it off line as quick as you can. No, that's really good advice. Mine was the opposite. Which was. If you think since you've got a year in this you wanna be value conscious. I would, cultivate, as many, I don't know how with the languages. I would, cultivate, as many leads as you can. So that end your subscription at day three hundred sixty five you've got thirty forty five fifty in the tank. Ready to go and make the most of it. Because my fear is you've already prepaid for the year. Something starts Bruin next week. And you realize I've got this person. Like starting to care about this person. We're going to be exclusive you've just wasted a huge amount of money. So I would say keep everybody on the hook. Yeah. And I think that's incredible advice already paid Tony miles ass. I'm the only non copy drinker on a team who loves tastes a lot. I think about random coffee shops in the day or on trips as naturally as they do. I believe I'm getting a mental stink about it. Any advice this Tony miles? Well, one Tony you can look at your co worker and and say, hey, you're not really coffee drinkers either. Because you're just drinking lots as all the time if they were ordering an Americano and Espresso shot or even just a regular tall black like DAT somebody that can be stinky about coffee, but they are basically just ordering chocolate milk. So definitely definitely quit. Your job. Know, I would get into t you know, why? Because I think t- people are very cool like, everybody drinks coffee. But if somebody really knows about t- and his like dipping, the little leaves and pouring for cool all the rest of us are just killing ourselves with our. It's a power move. I would take them to the closest place where they like you have to order some junkie coffee that they don't really want to serve but they have to. And then I would just order the coolest t- setup. And I would stare at them. The final moves stare at them without breaking I contact without blinking as you drink your tea. Anne, I am the fancy tea person. I am the non coffee drinker and every grape. And so I agree with you fully quit your job. You just need a whole new life. You need a new friend circle a new life you need to move somewhere. Where people don't care about coffee and that is nowhere. You think you could just make it really insufferable by taking one like taking one sip of coffee somewhere you go with with your team. And being like, it's fine. And that said. Go to just bring facts and stats about coffee at. With you anymore. Anyway, you solve your own. You've made yourself uninvited to the cop. That's right. That's right. Think also at work you should get a cool T setup. Yeah. So like, the water boiler thing and the fancy gloves kennel, if anybody Google that's called a kettle, the water water boiler thing would have gotten there as well. So. If you're real busy, Eddie what you need is like an English tea set on one side of your like your desk is over here. And over there is some sort of counter where everybody else has like ski or coffee, and you've got an English in a Chinese tea set. Right. Like, you've got a real difference. If there is whiskey at your workplace do at your job. Found a great job. Isn't that? What they do. I'm all the fancy television shows like Draper. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't they have like dick Kanter bringing up different regional tea sets. I didn't know that was like an option dying. Today's Chinese type t day. It's so different. So cool because they have been it sounds so right? It's like the poor Caitlin. Caitlin. Ask. You guys are taking a long time to answer these questions, by the way. Killing actor of a missionary that needs to make a lot of money in a short amount of time. What's the best way to do that? I want it. Gosh. I would I would continue just would continue emailing into random podcasts sitting vice your time doing that. Jordan, Scott says my ten year old a two year old watches the same cartoon every morning. What tactics? Do I use the weaned off of this Cameron? You take this one really wants to play four nine all the time. Just put your two year old on cartoon restriction. I mean, that's it. It's not an option your TV on pound puppy restriction. I mean, that's it. Can't do it puppies. I haven't thought about them in so long, man. I'll tell you though, I have both my kids get very stuck on shows. They do every kid, and I get that. It's like familiar, and they like it. But I mean Sofia the first is the only song I hear in this house. Yeah. But the other day, I just tried a new tactic. And I put on a Mr. Rogers. Yeah. In in the background. And I've they were both just standing in the room just staring at it. Looks at me. And goes who's this man? I was like, Mr. Rogers. He's very very sweetness is show. And she's just like like this man get into it's I would say sneakily introduce a new show, really sweet. And very Mr. Rogers Jenkins says my husband, and I recently got married, and we're looking for a new hobby to have together nothing is off the table, including heist pranks or anything any ideas. We'll try whatever you suggest and send updates mighty. But that. Both just turned be. We don't want up dates. Say the best. I would say don't have hobbies together. Just find your own to do. What is that terrible advice? These brain has her own obvious. You've already got enough time things together though, you gotta gainer games. Together. Shared interests, great do all that stuff already doing. But I think if you're going to invest in a whole new thing get your own hobby just for some time to miss each other. Hobby or the people who end up wearing the same clothes every day like twin everyday, but. Something important Eddie the whole thing of like you need to have you need to miss each other like go do things. So you can look forward to coming back together. The mistake is that we need to spend seven nights a week. It's like, oh, go out with your friends. Go do stuff us talking about this. Forgive me that we've been lots of hours together week. But as talking about the comedian said, the reason is parents stay together was talking about this. No, the reason his parents stay together. He asked his dad they've been married like fifty years or something. He said how have you lasted this long said because when I go to work, I'm gone for eight hours, and I don't talk to your mother all day. And then I come home and were together like we have aren't talking twenty four seven. And so we don't get sick of each other because we miss each other because I'm at work all day. Like this was when he was at work and like the seventies. And as when you didn't have phones all the time. So interesting that there was something about missing each other and being apart that made them actually work better. But I do see that like in young couples though, there is always this like like he's really into this. And then you could tell like she's trying real hard to get into that thing. But it's just a natural fit or vice versa. And I'm always like in a what you don't have to do that just have your own just have your own thing. You can just be two different people that enjoy meeting up in the afternoon and hanging out and talking about the different things you did. It's a much better than being that guy who tries to get his new wife into like the Smiths or something like that. Actually, it's going to change your life. Did you listen to? Share? Leave me alone. Yeah. For y'all's in y'all's relationships, and everyone I've dated like the reason you like each other. Is you have shared everyone. You've how many people have you dated enough to know that one of the things I like about them. Our shared experiences in the things we both like to do in Britain which other along. I don't know. We we do a lot of stuff Breen I do a lot of stuff together and hanging out and doing fun things. But then it's also really just as valuable to have the alone time. So I would say if you don't have any of those like shared experiences than yeah. Maybe find a hobby, and I would suggest finding your local PT cruiser club. Picchi cruiser joy. That's a real ride your head. Yeah. Go riding down to Denny's on a Saturday morning with a bunch of other people that have PT cruisers done together. But if you both get a PT cruiser, you're not spending time together, you get one PT cruiser, and you like decorate it and so. Her window. That's like Doris and stenciling on his it says like, you know, Marvin I like it all right anywhere in Doris. Marvin does this is a great advice. I think ask Andy has gone flawlessly. Next week. We're about that missionary comment. You don't have to get a job you're doing a job just raise some more support. I feel bad about that. I feel guilty. Don't just. A lot of money really faster. Everybody would just be doing it. Right. Right. I mean, I guess invest on the stock market multi level marketing thing, I just get. Hey next week. Bring back listener the week for the holidays that holiday version of listener the week. People who dress up a Santa prepare. Wanna be our listener the week hit us up on Twitter at realm podcast until us three interesting things about yourself, and we will pick one of you to be on the show with us just as a caveat to that make sure they're interesting to us because really it's about selling yourself. Holiday related that would be ideal. It'd be ideal. Remember your audience? This is true for every writer. Remember your audience? Remember your audience? It's not me. It's not the normal. It's the others. 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The Past Lives Podcast Ep87  Yvonne Kason

The Past Lives Podcast

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The Past Lives Podcast Ep87 Yvonne Kason

"This is the past lies. PODCAST episode eighty seven. I'm your host. Simon bound near the cost is to investigate evidence. Demonstrate Survival arrival of the human soul. We would past life memories near death experiences. Spirit communication and other incredible phenomena. There is a pass lives. Paul Oh cost Patriots campaign you sign up to the two dollars. You'll get a bonus episode every month members of the five dollars. Here get a bonus episode. Every week the education extended versions of the free one hour episodes. And of course the back catalogue you get over thirty episodes. You can become a patron by going to the Patriots Dot com forward slash slice podcast or click on the button on my home page at past lives hypnosis. Dot Co dot UK. There's a past US lives podcast facebook group. If you'd like to join you be very welcome this week. Mike asked is Yvonne case on. She's a board member of the International Association for Near Death. Studies Studies a member of the American Center for the integration of spiritually transformative. Experiences and co-founder of the spirituality in healthcare network on in this episode. We talk about her new book. Touched by the light exploring spiritually transformative experiences. Vaughan thank you very much for coming on the podcast and giving us your time. Thank you so much for having me. I wanted to Tokyo about your book but in the email you sent me something rarely co why I want to ask you about it and to do indeed in two thousand and three. Could you just tell us everything that happened there. Yes I had five near death experiences over the course of my life but the most recent one happened in two thousand and three and what happened in that near death. Experience is I had a slip and fall accident on black ice in winter I fell back and I hit my head on rock and I have AH suffered a serious head injury what they call a traumatic brain injury with a brain hemorrhage and I instantly died and what I experienced experienced inwardly. I mean there was excruciating pain when I hit my head but in an instant my spirit was whisked out of my body by a force greater than myself itself and I found myself rushing rapidly rapidly upwards through the dark evening sky through a dark expansive space and then I within seconds gender so I found myself being welcomed into this realm filled with light and I was being welcomed into this realm by two beings of light so they were beings whose bodies seemed to be made of light and these were two beings that I recognized immediately. They were a great saints from my spiritual tradition Yoga Nanda and Bob and they were welcoming me. telepathically words seemed to be or understanding seemed to be flowing between us they were welcoming me into this realm of light and they explained to me mentally. You're telepathically that. I had died side. That my work in that incarnation of Dr Yvonne case on was now finished and the feeling was of incredible. Originally incredible celebration. It was like a graduation party or a birthday party was being celebrated and my honor in the light because I had graduated from that experience that grade that school of being a Karnataka in that particular life this Doctor Fund case on I felt complete acceptance. Complete unconditional love. There was no life review. Although on one of my other near death experiences variances early on I'd had a life review but this time there was no life review at all Instead there was a sense that sort of a knowing and understanding understanding with such intense profound love that everybody makes mistakes is part of their soul learning and just as you don't reprimand a child who kraals or stumbles. When he's learning to walk there was no need to reprimand me for any mistakes? I might have done along the path. It was just all understood with love as part of my soul's growing journey and in this light in this love in this blessed in this ecstasy I events seemed to to go deeper into a round that I can only call sheer. Thought where massive amounts of information seemed it seemed I was somehow capable to absorb and assimilate assimilate a vast amount of information all at once not like how we here on earth learn one thing after the other after the other. It was a huge. You Jim on information all coming in at once like a huge off experience and in this realm of pure fought as the vast amount of information flowing in at once I was able to perceive. Remember recall integrate. Great my many past lives and it it to me the experience would be like I had glimpses of some of my past lives while I was still will embody and they were like having pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. So I'd had various pieces before but now in this all haw experienced in in this realm of pure thought or pure consciousness. It was like all the jigsaw puzzle. Pieces were put together perfectly so they all fit class other pieces that I've not. I've been aware of and I could see the whole picture now. I could see my soul's journey and how it made sense over these many incarnations nations my various experiences. How they all forget fit together perfectly? And why life as Dr Yvonne. Que Son had had that particular tip reform that it had it was like. Aw this all made sense to me in this big Aha experience and it it was. It felt there like past present and future. Some help all coexisted that that you were able able to tap into it just like when we tap into our memories here on earth we can remember the past or we can remember today or we can remember five years ago in Dr Memory. We can tap into it. It was there it was I could perceive it at the same time so that there's this awareness of preceding receiving past present and future at the same time and how they were all connected It was profound. It was beautiful so I was in his State of pure consciousness. Just feeling bless ecstasy. It's very hard to put words and then for what I call timeless time because also the passage of time did not seem to pass the same way that it does here on the Earth plane it it seems itself. They're like time could bend in. It could move. You can either jump forward in time or you could even go backwards in time that that that time. I'm somehow past differently on the other side. And then after this period of timeless time that I'm unable to quantify suddenly sadly the beams of light that I had seen welcoming me into the light appeared again in their light bodies and then they telepathically communicated today. You you may now choose either to return to the body of obeyed to further serve serve the divine there and or to return to the maimed injured body and it felt to me like my brain like my mind is not what responded to this choice. It felt to me like the choice came out of my heart as if my heart had a voice and I was feeling such love such bliss that the best I can describe it is if anyone has ever been just so totally completely in love that you're just almost drunk with that feeling of love. That's how I fell and when you're in that state of profound love it's not your intellect that responsive to your heart that response so from the center of my heart from that place that it was just expanded in profound love. My heart responded. Oh please guide me. What is the higher choice? I want to do. God's will and lovingly so beautifully so sweet like gentle caress how a thought can have gentleness sweetness I do not know but somehow the fought did it was so gentleness sweet the thought was telepathically communicated indicated to me. You may choose and implied on. That was that they were both good choices but again and my heart responded. Oh please guide me. What is the higher choice? And then mentally it was communicated back to nate. It will be more difficult but to return to the main body. So that was the injured body of Dr Von case on and again my heart in this expanse of state of joy and love without thought instantly. Responded I accept and it was faster than the speed of thought it was between the thought I and the thought except is as with a gasp of air. I suddenly started breathing life into my dad or unconscious body that was on the ground so it was I ooh gasp aveer except and so for the first few minutes as I was starting to breathe life into my cold old body. It was like waking up in an ice cube waking up in my previously dead body. I felt outdoors in winter. So I I guess my body temperature dropped quite a bit after I I either died or lost consciousness and when I woke up by just it literally early felt like waking up in an ice few but what I could perceive with my eyes. I opened my physical. Is I guess my third I was wide open and my spiritual life was wide open. I could see both roms at the same time I as I was gasping life back into my body I could could see the physical world around me and my friend who had been there was rushing over to me. Now I guess she'd rushed looking for help and she saw me starting to breathe again. Yvonne Yvonne are you all right so I could see your. I could hear but at the same time. As if the two rounds were superimposed upon each other I could also the realm of light and I could also see the two saints the two beings of light who had welcomed me into the white light round that they also now now. It seems escorted me back into my physical body and as I lay there slowly. Slowly the image of the white light realm started fading fading eating fading fading so it became less than less clear until finally it just became a little spot light in my consciousness. That is still there to this day and then I was back I was back in the injured body of Dr Von Case on which is me I now call Hami version. Two point zero after my death experience. That was my near death. Experience in two thousand and three when you met these great saints. Believe by that time you would've research Experiences and see people manet meets the sale of individuals During the experience that it might be but they presented to that person because that's the best way to get a message. Golsen is no actually those saints. Are there to that. Tho- come to you not at all not at all not at all. The everything was happening by a power greater than myself so I was experiencing at. I never had the feeling I was creating it whether it was the divine higher. How manifesting in that form or whether it truly was The spirits of these grade sates only the divine with no that for sure so I I couldn't possibly answer that question but this all happened so suddenly and so unexpectedly. I had been researching near death. Experiences experiences since nineteen seventy nine that when I was in a medical resident completing my medical residency I had a near death. Experience in Nineteen seventy-nine as well but that your death experience was very different from the one I had two thousand three. I have yet another near death. Experience in nineteen ninety five. It was different from the other two and then looking back on my life as I re researched more and more about near death experiences and saw how very they are and how different they can be one for another from another even within the same person. My three adult near death experiences each was completely different from the other and this was the only one who had beings of light like this I realized is that I'd also had two near death experiences as a child but as a child I didn't have any barometer to judge you you know what is considered normal or what is considered parent or a mall. This was just my experience going out of body twice when I was near death as a child It never dawned on me that it was anything unusual but I now realize I had two near death experiences. The child one at five when I was almost hit by a train. And I'll just tell you that when briefly so you can see how different it was from the ones in my adult life. Why is that? I was traveling with my parents in Europe. We ruptured Switzerland. We were standing at a train station waiting for train and As a young the child this was very exciting to me. I was five years old. It was the summer before kindergarten and I was just looking around the train station just watching and I saw station attendant a jump off the platform and jump onto the tracks and then climbed up onto the next platform and as a young child. I thought Oh that looks like fun. So I immediately lean forward to jumped onto the tracks and I was going to climb onto the next platform then. Suddenly it was like time stood still. It was as if the motion picture of my life froze at a particular frame and my spirit left my body and suddenly I was out of body and it. It was as if time was still proceeding in my spirit. But that my physical body was frozen. Just leaping off the platform and I could see from my vantage inch point above. I remember realizing. Oh there's a train coming into the station I'm about to be hit by a train. And there was no fear I was feeling completely peaceful it was simply an observation then. Suddenly it's as if the motion picture of my life started rolling again and a hand reached out from the platform and grabbed me really quickly and pulled me back onto the platform and then the plex electronic will them right in front of me so I was not hit by the train. Now of course my parents scolded me Blah Blah Blah. But it never dawned on me as a child that this was paranormal in fact as a five-year-old how I understood that was I thought I could fly why I remember when I started kindergarten. A few weeks after this incident had happened and made some new friends in kindergarten. And I remember clearly you telling one of my new friends I can fly and this new friend said Oh no you can't and I said I can't up to you because I have this clear memory of what I I thought was flying as a five year old and so I remember climbing on the front. Sit By my Garden Gate Front of my house and jumping off with my arms outstretched done. I was planning to fly down the street a little bit to throw my show my friend that I could fly but of course I tumbled right down to the ground when I when I jumped and I still remember this so clearly because my reaction was I was confused. I could not figure out why. Hi couldn't fly. So as a five-year-old it never dawned on me. This was a near death experience but it was an out of body experience which I now know is in your death experience experienced as a kid I thought it meant I could fly. I had yet another near death experience. I now realize when I was eleven years old when I was eleven years old I was involved in a very serious car accident with my entire family A.. Several of us were quite seriously injured. Net car accident. It was before the a day of seatbelts and I had a very serious head injury in that in that car accident and I was in fact unconscious for three days as a result of the head injury for that car accident when I was eleven but all my life I've always had the very clear memory of floating voting above the accident scene of my spirit being above the accident scene of seeing my father laying on the roadside and my father. He was actually calling hauling out for me because they hadn't find found my body at The rescuers at the car accident scene. He was calling out my daughter my daughter my daughter and it's almost as if my soul heard that or something why was hovering above the accident scene above my father and then my next memory of that accident. I was unconscious unconscious all this time. My physical body was unconscious but my next memory is when they had taken by ambulance to the local hospital emergency department search and I always remember and I still remember to this day floating above my body. It was as if I was up by the ceiling. Somehow at the ceiling had become transparent is parent and I was looking down and I could see. My little body was just turned eleven. So just a little bit over ten and I was lying. Hang on an examining table and there were two men sort of huddled over me. I assumed they were doctors. And I remember seeing the top view of those a big round surgical lamps that they have an operating rooms and emergency rooms the metallic chrome sort of disc shaped lamps. I was looking at one from the top down down perspective now as an eleven-year-old I had no idea what an emergency room or operating room lamp looked like and now I'm trained as a medical doctor so I we do know that. That's what an emergency room lamp looks like but I was viewing it from the top down perspective and then again I had the clear your memory of when I woke up from my coma about three days later I had very clear memories of Waking Up in my dad and my first few moments now Out It never dawned on me as an eleven year old that this was anything unusual or anything paranormal and even though as an adult I a`research near death. Experience says it never occurred to need these were near death experiences because they were both out of body type of near death experiences whereas my adult near death experiences were all white light mystical types of near death experiences. Now I know from my research. These are two big categories of near death. Experience says the other category courses the distressing near death experience so my childhood near death experiences were. We're both out of body type near death experiences now the after effect of my eleven year old near death experiences also very fascinating because has for a year. Afterwards I was able to see ghosts I could see wraith like spirits in my bedroom at night and I remember being telling my parents I thought my h- The house was frightened with haunted and I think my parents thought you know maybe I was distressed. Distress dropped set. Because we'd have the car accident so they started ignored what I said but I was seeing ghosts and I insist in on sleeping in my bedroom. The bedroom with my younger brother and sister rather than sleeping in my own bedroom because I felt safer at night when I could see the ghosts around me when there were other people in the room at fortunately leave. That went away after a year. But now that I've been researching near death experiences as an adult. I realize this is a very common after fact two people. We've had near death experiences that they find themselves more psychically open after words so to me. That was a clear after fat. After my eleven year world near death experience I have linked up with audible so that you can get a free audiobook download on a thirty day. Free trial many of the guests have been on the past like podcast have books available on audible including Dr Ebony Alexander Daughter Benny Sartori and Wendy Rose Williams uh-huh to download your free audiobook today go to audible trial dot com forward slash past lives. podcast the and that kind of leads us onto your book. Doesn't Nick on the bookies touched by the light exploring spiritually transformative experiences. Yes well I I have to tell you a little bit but about one more near death experience to lead us into the book so you know so I am a medical doctor and when I was in my medical training I had a very unusual. Meditation Nation Related Experience and these experiences. That I'm GonNa tell you. Now that happened in my medical training is what propelled me as a medical doctor to to start researching diverse types of spiritual experiences. There people are having today it because I started having these experiences experiences I now wonder if perhaps my childhood end ease might have made me susceptible to these experiences as I was older perhaps they they did but anyway when I was in medical school in my last year of medical school and preparing for my final exams I took a meditation course and I I took this meditation course not because I was trying to have some spiritual experiences but because it was advertised that would help you study better. Be less nervous on exams exams and get better marks on your exams so wanting to do well on my medical exams. I took this meditation course and I started meditating regularly twice today and I found that I loved meditating. It came very naturally to me and so I was meditating about an hour in the morning hour in the evening. Well up in December of nineteen seventy six. When I was in my last year of medical school I all of a sudden had a profound experience when I was meditating? We're I heard a loud inner roaring noise. I roar the roar of a waterfalls allowed inner roaring noise and I heard felt this Russia of energy. Go Up my body and spine and then my consciousness popped out of body again but this time expanded expanded to fill a vast space and I was transformed into a like a force field of love and I remember when this happened and I stayed in this expansive state date of love for about two hours until my meditation ended. And when this happened I was so naive I was such a new new comer to meditation. Meditation I thought Oh this is what happens to everybody when they meditate. No wonder people love to meditate and I was sort of embarrassed embarrassed to tell people that had taken me several months a meditation to finally get my technique right so that I had it experienced that I I presumed that everybody was having when they meditated but then I discovered afterwards I was not able to replicate this experience in my subsequent meditations meditations and so eventually after a few weeks later I asked one of my senior meditation teachers. You know what was I doing wrong with my technique. Why was I why not having that incredible experience of energy and expansion and love every time that I meditated and I remember this person looked in the drop their John said why act that happened to you so that was my first clue that that doesn't happen to everybody? Every time they meditate and so he told me. Well you know the the only thing I could think of. That even sounds a little bit like Yvonne would be a Koumba leany awakening but oh no. He said that couldn't possibly have been a Kunda. leany the awakening because you know first off. You're too young. And you've not been meditating long enough and it only happens to you know masters in the Himalayas. You've been meditating for years and years and years. Here's and if you'd had Kunda lean awakening. You would instantly be transformed into a genius or are enlightened instantly I I now know all of that is incorrect correct. But at the time I knew no better so I didn't know what this was. That had happened to me but something unusual that happened to me so that was in my last year of Medical Medical School. Then when I was finishing my medical residency about three years later is when I had my first adult near death. Experience and to put put it very In a capsule format I had been assigned to work in northern Ontario in winter with some remote native Indian Communities Ladies and I had been assigned that day to fly on a net evac so a medical evacuation in a small airplane to take a critically. Ill native Indian woman from from the small hospital where I was working to a major center. That was a few hundred miles away that had more advanced medical equipment to look after her Deteriorating rerating medical condition anyway that particular airplane was a twin propeller aeroplane called a Piper Aztec. We flew into bad bad weather into a a winter storm. Evidently by the inquest later they discovered the air filters probably froze over on both of the That propeller engines enhance the motor stopped and the plane crashed so as the plane was coming down to the ground. People ask me wonder. Maybe we'll you miss a plane crash. No you will not miss it. Because there's incredibly credible turbulence is the plane was going down so it was just violent turbulence of the plane going down down and being buffeted by the strong winds of the storm and I could see that we were crashing down to the ground and both propellers in stock and my instant reaction was panic onic in fear of instantly inside of me roses panic if yours I saw we were crashing to the ground and from my heart my heart just just cried out inwardly. Wrigley God help. I'M GONNA die. I didn't say out loud. It was inside in my head. God help I'm GonNa die and it seems that that the cry for help was what started my near death experience my near death. What I now know is near death experience? I didn't know it at the time is is that instantly. The force field of peace started descending upon me and I felt like literally it was pushing all of the fear out of my being and I heard an inner voice. I've never heard an inner voice this before prior to that day and I heard an inner voice say in my mind be still and and no I am God and with you now and always and this powerful mystical vibration of peace And safety terminated permeated. The plane had crashed yet. The pilot violet then through great heroism managed to guide the freefalling plane to sort of a semi guided crash landing onto the surface professor of a frozen lake and we risque sitting across the ice. It looked like we were going to be all right but we were skidding rapidly to a patch of open water and the plane came to a stop right at the edge of the open water and as soon as the weight of the plane settled it broke through the ice and it started to sink so we had to get out of that plane very quickly while the plane was sinking. We were all wearing heavy winter clothes. I was wearing bring heavy winter boots and a winter parka and once the plane sunk and I was in the water. These heavy clothes were just weighing me. Down in the water like lead weights was sub zero weather with the strong wind storm and the voice in my head said Swim To shore as I looked around me that there was a a large expanse of water may be two hundred three hundred yards separating me from the the closest land which was an island and there was water with a fast moving strong current separating me from that land looking away from land to the Open Lake. There was ice but we didn't know how thick the ice was or whether or not it could support our weight. The pilot started shouting. Try to get on the Ice Dragon on the nice so I ignored the voice in my head. Something mistake I would not do today. Hopefully ignored the voice in my head and I started trying to get on the ice but I could not get on the ice. I kicked and kicked struggled and struggled and every time I even got my arms length of wait on the ice. The ice beneath my arms would break in sync into the the water and the voice repeated swim to shore. You know again and again I struggled to get on the ice. I was getting more tired. I was getting getting more coal a third time. The voice repeated swim to shore so finally with the third time I surrendered to that what I now realize. It's higher guidance. Your inner wisdom and I started swimming to shore now. It was a very long and very difficult swim and I went under several times in the courses swimming to shore carrying lake water in my lungs. But then I would kick kick kick with all might and try to bring my boss South up to surface and continue swimming again to try to get to shore somewhere in the process of swimming to shore is where my near death. Experience deepened. Once again I heard a roaring sound so like the roaring waterfalls or the rushing of wings and I found myself perhaps when he feet above my body looking down and and it was interesting because it wasn't quite as straightforward as that I was it's it I was the two places at once. It was the best I can compare it to is like a split split screen TV where you have a big image and the smaller Mahler image so in the smaller image there were still a bit of my consciousness that was in my body because my body was still alive and my body was still struggling to swim to shore four but the big screen the big image. The the bulk of my consciousness was was now out of my body body twenty or so feet above my body and then my consciousness rose higher and I rose into this place that was filled with light. Eight and filled with love. Many people talk about the light and yes it was filled with light but the most profound part of the experience for me was the love into hands her. Affect unconditional love born tense love than I've ever experienced experienced in my life for an instant. When I was in that White White Ram I could see a face made of light and then it sort of shit faded? Back into the sort sort of soft nebulous light. That was around me and nothing was spoken. I didn't hear any words. Nothing was explained to me. I didn't see any beings means but I just knew things somehow in my soul while I was in this realm of light I knew what I was experiencing was the love of the higher power and this higher power was not at all like I had been taught taught to think it to be like I've been raised in a Protestant Christian home and so my concept of God was sort of of an old man with a long white beard sitting on a throne up there in heaven who judges us. You know. We've been good. We've been bad and this was not at all what I was experiencing. I was experiencing experiencing a vast cosmic intelligence underlying the universe that was profoundly loving uh in nature that is what was I was experiencing the higher power to be basking in that love. I was watching being in a very very detached manner as my body finally did manage to swim to shore and then we were rescued by a heroic mckerrow wisdom by two helicopter. Pilots who brought us to the closest hospital and I was put on a stretcher and I was wheeled into the emergency Subaru and I remember watching the nurses trying to take my temperature because I was near drowning and near frozen to death on basically unconscious conscious and they were tried to take my temperature with the regular standard hospital thermometer and I remember watching from above and one of the nurses puzzled looking at her thermometer because she was not able to get a temperature reading on me because my body was so cold that was below the bottom reading of her thermometer and I could feel my consciousness floating further and further away from my body now and I knew that I was dying and that was fine with me because I I knew somehow in this realm of light that me what I think of this me I would live on whether my body lived or died. Uh So I had no fear of dying at all. In fact I welcomed it then. Suddenly I heard a voice say boy could I use a taught bass and I was surprised to see that it came out of my physical body that my physical body had spoken those words but I my spirit had not thought of saying that at interestingly enough that is exactly what my body needed my body needed to he put in a hot bath to warm up otherwise I was dying quickly of Hypothermia and then the nurses looked at each other when I said that I guess they didn't realize the sort of paranormal that it came out of my mouth and they said Gee maybe that would help them and they will this down to the physiotherapy departments and they put our bodies into the hot whirlpool baths and it was there in the hot whirlpool bath. When I was being reheated that I finally felt my consciousness? Free enter my body and what that was like was I heard a whooshing noise again and it felt like I would imagine a genie being abruptly sucked into a tiny bottle that I was in this big expansive space above and then suddenly with so I was being sucked back into the tiny confines of my physical body and then I remember rubbing frozen hands against my legs in that hot water saying I'm back I'm back. I'm GonNa Live GonNa live now that experience. Shane me profoundly. Changed me profoundly this I was in my medical residency residency. I was still completing my training as a medical doctor. It completely completely removed my fear of death it. It completely changed my concept of the higher power to a much more universal all loving form somehow absolutely Lee New after this experience all the world's religions all the different spiritual paths are all like different trails up a mountain that once you get to the peak you reach the Zane peak. It's this one same higher power that's at the top people are just looking at it from different angles or climbing by slightly different routes at Andt but another strange thing happened to me a few weeks after this near death. Experience is that I had what I now realize. Was My my psychic awakening. I was driving home from work that night and I was going to visit a friend on my way home from work I was stopped at a stop light with my car. And all of a sudden in my mind's eye I got this clear luminous visual image of my friend's brain rain covered in poss- I never ever ever had this sort of a cleric notes a clairvoyant vision that I'd never had an experience like that before. And how I knew. It was my friend's brain. I do not know how. But somehow I knew intuitively and to me as a medical doctor after. This was a very clear image from meningitis. I absolutely knew that the message was meningitis and when I arrived over her at my friend's house that evening shortly after that I asked her how she was feeling and she told me she was feeling ill and had this very strange headache. Well wouldn't wouldn't you know it later on that night. She was taken to the hospital and she was confirmed as having a type of meningitis. So after that day I started having more and other types of psychic experiences so all of this happened to me when I was a young doctor so this propelled me as a medical student is a resident and now as a young doctor to start researching diverse types of spiritual and paranormal experiences. That are happening to people today. And because I I was told. My experience was not a coon Delaney awakening. I thought well I guess I should research Kunda leany awakening. See what that is so at least I know what that is my near Mike Experience in the plane crash when I started talking to my medical colleagues everybody had a hypothesis of some sort of a medical explanation so so sort of hallucination. A hallucination brought on by a low blood sugar or a hallucination brought on by an electrolyte balance and and that just did not resonate with my soul because this was such a profoundly positive and transformative experience this the spiritual experience I had in the plane crash the the best explanation I was able to find. I also went to somebody. Let me say here. WHO claimed to be an expert on your death experiences at this time and I asked and if my the experience in the plane crash was perhaps a near death experience so this person who it turns out did not know that much about near death? Experiences said to me well how did you see a tunnel with the light at the end and I went. Well no I did not and this is well you ever clinically dead. During your experience Branson I went. Well no I was never clinically dead. So he said well then it was not a near death experience so okay it was not a near death experience. I didn't know what it was. Well a friend of mine. A doctor friend of mine who was very very religious listened to my story and he said to May we gone. I think you had a mystical experience. And soon as he said those words it was like my heart could come to peace my heartfelt com. Finally I had a word that I could haul whole my experience that felt right so for many many years I called the experience that I had in my plane crash rush my mystical experience that I had in the plane crash because I had been told it was not a near death experience now now I know now that I've been researching their death experiences for forty years that you can indeed have a near death experience that starts when you're facing death breath and you don't have to be clinically dead to have a near death experience and also many people have near death. Experiences do not see a tunnel so it was a full-blown near death experience. So this launched me is searched striving to understand what was happening to me so I was researching Kunda leany any experiences. I was researching near death experiences now. I started researching mystical experiences of all times all types because of my psychic the awakening. I started researching psychic awakenings of all types so a diversity of spiritually transformative experiences. So I I was doing this for many years privately that my private interest outside of my medical practice but over these years more and more patients started in coming to see me in my medical practice in Toronto Canada. They heard through the grapevine or through a friend of somehow that there was this doctor in Toronto that you could speak to who would not automatically judge your spiritual or paranormal experiences as crazy. Because she'd had some too so more and more people started coming and sharing their experiences with me so that more and more I became specialized because I had to because people were coming to talk to me about their spiritual and paranormal experiences. So in nineteen ninety at all came together gather. I had what I call up calling experience where spirit made it very clear to me that it was time for me to come out of the closet now because I was in the closet about my near death experience for almost ten years because nobody validated or understood it but I saw I was distressed dressed but how badly might patients in people who were talking to. We're being treated. They were being pathologist. They were being told they were hallucinating. Sometimes sometimes they were being put on psychiatric medications. Sometimes they were given given electroshock therapy that that even there after churches they were being told that their spiritual experiences says were work of the Devil and and I was appalled at this happening because I knew these experiences were real and there is a literature that talks about diverse spiritually spiritually transformative experiences. Just modern medicine psychology and the West in general are not familiar with that letter literature so I knew it was time time for me to come out of the closet and start speaking about the fact that I had a near death experience that I knew near death. Experiences were real. They were not hallucinations. They were not signs of mental illness and then that ultimately led me to start writing books which leads me ultimately to to my current buck touched by the light exploring spiritually transformative experiences. So in this book I share Basically what I've learned from forty years of researching diverse types of spiritually transformative formative experiences the many different types of mystical experiences. The nanny turps types of psychic phenomenon including past life recall which many any many people have come to me talk about Many varieties of near death experiences and about Spiritual Energy Kunda lean awakening and I a US hundreds of case stories of people who come to me and told me about their stories and the reason. I'm doing that the reason I'm sharing it in my book touched by delight is I feel at this point in my life. I WanNa pass on what I have learned. I want people to not have to go through the struggle in hardship that I had to go through having to stay in the closet. Not even having a word to accurately describe what had happened to me being afraid to talk talk about it because everyone would think I was crazy that they can find a word in my book to act to accurately describe what type of a peak spiritual ritual experience. They're having and they can see that. Many many people are having these experiences at. I also give guidance in terms of how how to better integrate some of these experiences into your life and how to deal with some of the inner work that becomes necessary once we had had a spiritual awakening. It seems I call it. Psycho spiritual house cleaning. Seems to be very necessary after we've had a spiritual awakening of some type. Think it's like the light shines center inner house in all the little shadow issues that we've not worked on come up and they need to be healed and dealt with so talk about that quite a bit and finally I talk about what I have found over the years to be the strongest method in addition to embracing your psychological article work to help you move forward on your spiritual path which is to meditate. So I have a whole chapter in this book dedicated a to meditation. which I feel from my personal experience is the key to spiritual deepening the chapters in your book? The model of consciousness under Laney and spiritually transformative experiences. UNCON- Delaney isn't something we'd have already covered on this `cost could you give us an idea of what this is all about. Yes though there's another category of experience that is happening to the people that is way more common than I had imagined which is Called in Yoga. It's called a Kunda leany awakening and in English week. Perhaps call it a spiritual energy awakening and I think that this is what is alluded to in some of the different spiritual traditions ends. They talk about the Holy Ghost the holy win the Holy Spirit the Duma fire you go in different spiritual traditions and they talk about some sort sort of spiritual energy than certain circumstances gets activated and I think most of us if people are like I was before I started having having these experiences I heard the Holy Spirit that I really had no clue what it was and I really didn't think it had anything to do with you and me here on Earth Leeann in you know twenty nineteen So it was fascinating to me to discover that I in fact had awakened spiritual energy in me and after after that initial experience. I told you about the energy rising up my spine. I've had recurrent experiences of energy rising up my spine and recurrent aren't Mr Call experiences related to it. An inner sounds related to the shockers. which are the energy centers that are related to the spiritual energy so so many many people came to see me in my office telling me about symptoms of having had some sort of spiritual troll energy awakening so the traditional symptoms that classic symptoms of a Cooley or spiritual energy awakening our ark of energy rising up the body or spine? classically is going up the spine This may be associated with an inner sound it may be an inner roaring sound and inner rushing sand Some people call like the rushing of the wind other people here here sounds more like the tinkling of bells ringing of a gong. Own Sound Some people have is associated with inexperience of light or luminosity. They may experience the energy like liquid light flying up there spine or they may feel their consciousness Become a sphere of light so energy light and sound and then it classically culminates may be immediately or sometime afterwards with a mystical experience of some type or some sort of psychic experience. Psychic opening and once people have had their first experience of this energy awakening it it continues. This is very interesting thing about this phenomenon. On that people continue to get intermittent experiences of energy rushing their spine or they might have intermittent experiences of feeling energy rushing in their arms or energy rushing in their legs they might have a experiences of energies swirling around announced shock ripped points. The shocker points are these energy centers that are said to lie along the astral spine which is superimposed on the physical spine so people will will. Sometimes feel energy swirls in their third eye center in their forehead or crown of their head they may feel pushing sensations sensations like the energy is trying to expand their consciousness larger than the size of their head so there are many physical symptoms that people have have with a Kunda linear spiritual energy awakening but people also have spiritual symptoms which is the spiritual experiences. I told you about about paranormal symptoms. Various sorts of psychic awakenings but interestingly in my research and in my clinical experience counseling counseling patients. I find that no matter. What type of spiritually transformative experience people have I? I that is their so called spiritual awakening experience whether their first experiences a Kunda leany awakening or their first experience is a near death experience or their first experiences perhaps a mystical experience. That happens when they're meditating or if the first experiences a psychic experience like spontaneous past past life recall when they travel somewhere in. It appears that they've lived there. On a past incarnation that regardless of what type of spiritually transformative experiences their first one. They're awakening experience that they then start opening and having similar sorts of after facts which makes them more open to repeat it and other sorts of spiritual experiences so many of them grow up go on to become multiple S. St experiencers having multiple and many types of spiritual experiences. And I've as interested to read about the Kunda leany such such network in some of the things they came up with. That was fascinating results. That came from. Yeah I wasn't. I was one of the founders of Mukunda leany research network and very involved in their research project Unfortunately that that particular organization has gone dormant now But recently I become come involved with Cooney Illini Research Foundation and were continuing to do research to see if we can better quantify and better understand this thing that's not very well known in the West About Kunda leany spiritual energy awakening things you say. The statistics show the APL having stet's STA's tend to undergo more than one type of experience. Yes that's exactly what I was saying earlier on that regardless of what was your first I type of St that it seems to be starting opening and other types of S. t. e.'s can occur so if you look at me he is an example just using me as a case example it seems that my first S. t. e. was a near death experiences a child but then as I got older I had a coup Illini awakening and then I went and had more near death experiences than I had a psychic awakening. And then I've had more mystical experiences. Some of whom that I share in the book and I share all of that not to make me special not at all but just to use it as a case example example so that other people realize this can happen to you too and I've seen this happening to other people who've seen me as patients that they start opening too many you different kinds of of spiritual experiences I'll give you another example which fits into the theme of your show past life recall in approximately nineteen ninety three and this is something actually I have not written about my books yet. So you're getting a little sneak. Crack Preview into Yvonne case on life and her spiritual awakening is nineteen. Ninety three. I remember the very day it happened. And the instant that had happened is aw I was married at the time and very very devoted to my marriage and I had absolutely no even remote thought of ever ever being unfaithful for me marriage was for life and I had gone to a conference on Kundu leany Nanan had been in California and I met somebody there Aneta man there and I felt incredible love for this man. I felt my soul felt like Oh my goodness thank God I found bound you. It felt like my soul had been looking for him for thousands of years and I was so puzzled. How could I feel such a strong feeling of love towards somebody I just met when I absolutely had no intention of of ever being unfaithful to my husband and ah I remember? I was flying home on the plane from that conference and I was crying. I was really confused by this. How could I feel such intense love for somebody I just met when I love my husband dearly and I was very very committed and faithful in our marriage and I remember praying to God to help me with that that that I just didn't know how to handle what was happening to me and it was literally like Adore in my consciousness opened? I all the sudden I pat. I popped into a visionary experience where I was seeing one the past lives and I saw a past life where I won't go into the details of the past life where I had been married to this man Dan that I'd met at the conference in California and that he had gone off promising to return but something happened and and he never returned so I was waiting for them as loyal wife and this past like waiting waiting waiting and then there were some incident. Happened some marauders or some bandits or something and I ended up. Be Killed in that incarnation and my last thought on dying I remembered my last spot. Spot undying was. Where are you calling out to my beloved husband of that? Incarnation where are you. That was my dying thought. So when I met him this incarnation. My Heart's must've remembered at some unconscious level and was thank God I found. You was coming out of my heart so that happened to me. Spontaneously a spontaneous past like memory happened to me in nineteen ninety-three and when this opened in my consciousness it over the next subsequent years over the next ten years it was like I would go to would meet people or go to specific locations and all of a sudden it was like this capacity in my consciousness had open then all of a sudden I would perceive past lives. I would know the life that I had there. I know the issues had with people in those lives and so this is a new phenomenon. A new psychic phenomenon. That's been happening to me. Independent and unrelated to what my initial waning experiences were my initial waking experience near death experience whom the Weenie awakening mystical experience clairvoyance had nothing to do with past lives. So I'm just sharing this with an effort example for you Simon that that this can happen to people that suddenly they develop. New Sorts is spiritually transformative experiences. When they're on the spiritual path path of transformation? It's such amazing stuff and how this came together for you. 'cause in the boat that's not what you say. Mystical will kind of spiritual experiences but then you talk about. UFO encounters as being a spiritually transformative experience and to me. That doesn't doesn't quite fit with the other stuff but it does affect people like that. Yes you know I had to include include UFO encounters because for some people. It is a powerful spiritually transformative experiences. I have to say here that I'm not An expert on U of O experiences. Not at all but I have researched a little bit. And I think that there's more than one kind of UFL encounter. I think that there some people you know they're seeing spaceships in the sky that they're actually may be beings that live on other planets and our dimension of reality that maybe maybe they're more evolved than us and maybe they do visit our planet so that may be one type of UFO encounter. But what I'm talking about in my book is it's a different kind and I include it with psychic Synon- because there are other people who have What they can best be described as a UFO type abduction experience where they feel they been taken to another other place or dimension and perhaps taught some lessons or undergone examination and then they they seem to come come back into their body and there may be a gap of time or sometimes they even. It's the opposite. They come back to an earlier earlier. Time that there's there's an incongruence with the time and The memory of what happened on the other side may be at first repressed best and then later on they might regain the memory through hypnosis or sometimes it comes up spontaneously through flashbacks but these people people who had the second type of encounter find themselves afterwards much more psychically open so justice justice somebody who had a psychic awakening as their first experience or me. When I had my opening that I just told you about rice started recalling in past lives that was wide open after that opened up like I was seeing lots and lots and lots and lots of past lives after that opened up it slowed down after awhile but at first it was like blasted that channel of perception open so similarly these people have this this other type of UFO encounter counter where it seems like they were taken somewhere many many times find themselves very psychically open afterwards? So it dawned on me as a researcher observing this phenomenon why would they be psychically opened. It would make sense that there was some some sort of psychic opening. That happened some sort of psychic experience. So I've come to believe that they may be trans dimensional experiences so actually beings or entities that do exist but not on our particular dimension dimension the Trans Dimensional and that somehow this trans dimensional contact What it does to the person who's gone trans dimensional dimensional is that makes them more psychically open And so that's why I included. I included that type of UFO encounter as a type height of spiritually transformative experience as similarly eight people who had that sort of trans dimensional encounter. You're may also have a spiritual awakening related to that. I mean I yes. They often have a sort of a traumatic reaction in a certain degree of a stress reaction post traumatic stress but with time I've seen cases where the individuals have come to the place of spiritual growth around that. It's been a prod for spiritual growth in that individual that they they realize these are part of God's creatures to this is part of God's creation and perhaps you know like you take your cat to your vet for your shot for the shots. What's in? Your cat is screaming and feels traumatized but you realize as the owner that the shots are for your cats own good so to the cat. The cat feels. It's like it's been abducted and this is a huge trauma right so so one can also look that that that with time some UFO Experienced teachers realize that they weren't really hurts. You know that that that in fact there were some spiritual lessons perhaps that were learned. Maybe they didn't understand it. Maybe they fry. It frightened them but as part of their own spiritual growth they actually start praying for for these beings wherever they may exist in the cosmos as part of the creatures in the universe that require prayer as well so I'm just schering that as examples of ways that UFO encounters They're they could be spiritual awakenings for people opening them to further either spiritual as well as further psychic experiences as well. I've always thought of a spiritually transformative experiences. Something that's really dramatic matic in your life. Something really big but do you feel that actually but can be really quite subtle. Yes they can be both the ones that are those really powerful ones. I have a mountain peak on the cover of my touched by the light. Those are the ones they change your life. Dramatically like my near death doc. Experience in the plane crash that was a S. t. e. peak so in my books. I also call actually call them steps. I put a P. S. t. e. peaks those peak peak. Experiences can change your life around completely but many people have S. t. e.'s that are more subtle and You know for example. Some of my past life memories. I wouldn't call them peaks but they've been instrumental in me coming coming to a deeper understanding of myself spiritually a deeper understanding of myself. Psychologically they've been helpful In need having an expanded view of the soul lessons were all learning life after life so their growth promoting but not with the same sort of intensity is some of those powerful peak experiences. And can you just quickly tell us bullets. A prepaid is it. Shocked pats awakening shocked to cut away. Yeah that that according to the Yoga tradition It's called called shocked pot and in English we would call let maybe transmission of the Holy Spirit transmission of the Holy Ghost host the pentecost as as occurred to the disciples but this is by direct transmission from a highly realized. Saint so that An example of this in the in the Christian Bible. It's been documented that that Jesus when Jesus cast I think a seven demons out of Mary Magdalene now. We really don't know what that means. Were they seven illnesses. Were they We really don't know. But by his his presence Bhai his energy or by his touch he was able to heal her to cleanse. Her of something could even have been mental illness. We don't know what the seventy minutes means then. There are other cases that he healed people by the attached. So that's the transmission of spiritual energy and it is sad that a a highly realized saint such as Jesus or Krishna or the Buddha or some highly realized goose can even transmit a mystical experience. The sense of touch in my book I give one case example. Parham Mahan say Yoga. None did I had a very highly God realized Guru Swami Shri Cook Dishwasher who after Yoga Nanda had had been a disciple at his Ashram for many years but had not been able to reach a an expansive of state of mystical Somali is. It's called in Yoga. His gouden touched him and transmitted to him a profound down. Profound experience of cosmic consciousness mystical communion which lasted for quite some period of time. So that transmission that spiritual transmission transmission in Yoga is called shocked. Ikat so The book we're talking about is touched by the light exploring spurt Berkshire transformative experiences. But you had a book before as well was called follow the shows. Is that a good one to read before touched by the light would did you just say you can read them in either order I would say Come to touched by the light. Touched by the light is a updated expanded not version but I included much of farther shores in touched by the light so farther shores was my understanding twenty years ago because it was written in two thousand and touched by. The light is my understanding today. So my recommendation recommendation is Touched by the light touched by the light you can get it on Amazon. Can you get it other places as well well Yeah there should be us through some booksellers you can order it through Amazon. It's available in print it's available on kindle and you can Google my name Yvonne case on my last name is spelled K. A. S. O. N. First Name Yvonne Y. V. O. N. N. E.. And you'll probably pick up a bunch of links where you can buy not quite sure which booksellers or selling it in the UK but there are some that are fantastic. Well thank you for coming onto the cost of being a guest is being fascinating thank you. It's great talking with you. Sign a case. That was a really great interview. 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Bytemarks Caf: ina-Informatics

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Bytemarks Caf: ina-Informatics

"It's November six twenty nine teen and welcome to another edition of Bite Marks Cafe where we serve you the first bite of today's science technology and innovation. I'm Bert Lum. I thought we have Rennell. And she is here to tell us about the recent climate thown and get zero wasted. Then we're going to be joined by Yvonne Chen and Eric Tong long to talk about the data driven. Sort of citizen science project called Iena Informatics. Okay so we'll just get into talking to rent because she's right here Ren Neil and she's here to tell us about Gibbs your wasted and of course the recent climate welcome to the show. Thank you so much. I'm super excited undefeated. Well Great Okay so tell me first off I mean. We did have a so about the climate Dan in general and and you know sort of before the actual event. But how did you hear about the the climate thon and what drew you to it. Yeah so I was individuals kind of seeking hanging out a group of climate group and I just kind of symbol upon it. facebook is a wonderful Place so I I just found it on facebook and then I decided to go just a normal person. I walked in the door and here I am so during the kind of team formation in part Did did somebody go up there and pitch an idea and then the teams would organically form. How did you end up on a team? Yes so Someone in in our group went up and pitched their original idea which is which by the way was completely different than the one that we ended up with but and then we all kind of networked in talked around and kind of formed are group's kind of organically was an interesting experience and your interest is in environment men and climate change Did you did you get offense since the climate don was really something to help address some of those issues absolutely absolutely Lee so the a climate on is a twenty four hour climate Akhavan It's just a space for people to come together around issues in this particular instance And we were talking about trying to minimize the climate impacts of tourism here in Honolulu so absolutely and and this was like a I think the first climate thon that took place and it was actually taking place simultaneously across parties hundred different cities across the world right now in terms of Why I have you here because there were probably like five teams that all actually went through the twenty four hour period? It and pitched and your team was the one that got some recognition of doing air quotas sort of one so tell me what what exactly did get zero wasted pitch. And what. What is it that the your project really tries to help do sure so? Our group is called. Get Zero wasted We plan to provide packages. You know the problem that we kind of looked at was is that we focused on was People come here. They want to interact with our island. They want to go to the beach so they buy you know snorkels Markle's boogie boards floaty things of that nature But then they leave them here. They're they're disposed in the trash In when you're thinking about the millions millions and millions the five point six million people that come here annually in climbing. That's a lot of waste and so we were thinking okay. We got together. We decided lighted that we were going to focus on providing packages of gently used herbal beach goods such as those to tourists Immediately as they get here So so for example. You Know Josh and Sarah WanNa come on a very much needed vacation you know will contact them. They'll contact us. We'll give them a package so that once they get here. They have all the things that they need to go to the beach They'll use it Then we'll pick it up when they're done and we clean it just to be put back into the system for the next person no can the CAN The actually keep it if they wanted to keep it. We haven't really worked worked out all the details yet because we are kind of in the seedling. Stage of of but yeah potentially so. That's a good point now. The Climate John was really twenty four hours so the team came together. The basically really fleshed through the idea and presented this idea. What is it that you are now able to you? Take advantage of in terms of being the winner you know as a result of Whatever benefits the climate on now presented your your team absolutely? We're super thankful for impact hub for hosting the climate on and it was really just a space for everybody that cares to come together so they offered us for months. It's in their space to be able to meet and they also gave us advisers and and you know just with word of mouth honestly We have we already have two clients that are willing to work with us in and start you know a small pilot with this And it just kind of blew up very very quickly yeah. Was it in terms of the team coming together either. I mean they didn't all know each other before coming together. So how did the team dynamics workout is that something that's also kind of Being worked Through yes yes. We're still kind of in the beginning stages. We don't really know how this group is going to form in the end But it it it was kind of like magic. We all kind of came together. A bunch of beautiful minds honestly from various different backgrounds. Just coming together together on the same issue You know we don't know if we're going to be a nonprofit or for profit or anything like that just yet but and so in terms of like some the immediate next steps would you see actually can happening. Yeah so we were really looking at client discovery. Right now Customer Discovery Very And then we're also looking at you know small scale pilots not not a few places where tourists like to come So I think you know at the end of the day even if this doesn't blow up on a mass scale We're really just hoping you know to Plant a seed of sustainability and conscious consumerism. That is really like the first impression Russian when you come to the island and I think since Hawaii really wants to be an ECO tourist destination. This is definitely going to be a step forward. That's it's really good and I. I always ask this question. Working People find more information and kind of stay in touch with the get zero. Waste absolutely. Thank you You can follow us at on our instagram Patriot. Now it's at get zero wasted. That's at get the number zero wasted and put that up on our show notes. Thanks Ron Neil for joining joining us. Thank you so much. And of course we'll take a short break and when we return we'll be joined by Yvonne Chen and Eric Tong talk about informatics. This is bite marks. Gaffey not support for bite. Marks cafe comes from the HP our local talk show fund which helps Hawaii public radio sustain and grow its locally produced talk shows does Mahalo to contributors Pacific Database chaminade university and Hastings and played well a communication company. Hi My name is Terry savage average and I proudly support Hawaii public radio listening to H. Pr is like looking at good art. It offers variety depth perspective and nuance. What's you won't find anywhere else on radio? Not Everything I hear is necessarily my cup of tea. And that's okay. HP ours programs stretch my thinking and keep eat me connected to an ever. Changing Complex member supported Hawaii public radio. Welcome back to bite marks cafe. I'm glad to walk. Yvonne Chan and Eric Hong Yvonne is the John K teaching chair over at L.. Any school and Eric is the the program director and instructor for the Informatics Network based over at school. Welcome to bite marks cafe. Thank you so much for Yvonne. I'm so thrilled to have you back on the show. And it's always y'all have interesting things to share with us so tell me what is I the informatics So I- informatics is a program led by Johnny School that Wants to bring genome. Science and high school classrooms so we provide a mobile lab a researcher and the curriculum and we work with schools to Develop place based curriculum and collect real data via citizen. Science approach. Okay so when you talk about Genome Science I mean. We're are the samples coming from so the samples are coming from From different places some of it from neighborhoods for example are Papaya. GMO project but others are through collaboration with researchers at Uh and so these are actually bacteria cultured from LAVA TOMBS TMZ as well as Louis. So the the kids aren't really going out to the field. Proceed to to collect any kind of samples they are for for the GMO Papaya Project yes so eric I mean you're you're involved with the actual development of the program Can you sort of describe what the what the students would get involved in from from. Perhaps some field work or some lab work sure Kind of very saw. We reach out to individual teachers at both public and on Dealey schools and it really varies on the focus at the teachers choosing to bring the framing around on the kind of tech package that we're bringing and so the curriculum can be kind of frame different ways and so for some groups you know we are out in the neighborhoods like with Cut You program last summer. We walked around. Palolo valley were gathering from the neighbors yards to find specifically papayas for that particular activity and Really getting to know kind of where these trees are are exist in their particular neighborhood. And that's it's important for the I guess understanding some of the results of that particular activity in other cases. We've working towards trying trying to get more opportunities for students to come. We've brought teachers out to the fish pond to sample the water and sediments from fishponds and done sequencing on that. And and so there's a variety of ways at I think we've been attempting to frame. These projects are based on the demand. I guess and interest from the educators that we work with now when you when you talk about the Genomes genomes are going to be tighter some organism. How how do you tie that research and that information back to the Aina I mean so I look at you? Know Organisms look at land. So how do you connect like this. These two pieces of the puzzle together. Yeah I think we went with this kind of I know the that which nurtures and feeds us. Because I think it's that relationship that we have in Hawaii that's really unique with a long history of kind of working working with an among the land and for a long time. I think there has been a deep understanding that there there are so much natural phenomenon that we can observe that are actually mediated by microbial and or you know indeed even lake sub cellular processes. Geez you know and Being able to bring genomics into that kind of observation an extension of that key law is. Actually I think really Really really cool because it resonates not only with. I think our natural understanding of the things that we can see but we get to dive deeper into the patterns that maybe have been known but we can start to look at some of the underlying mechanisms that kind of drive these changes that we have Long since understood understood about our environment. So Yvonne Eric just talked about patterns. I mean are there some patterns that you're starting to see emerge by the genomic studies the the students are getting involved in So we're starting to see some patterns in the lava cave bacteria that they seem seem they communicate with each other more than Than we would expect to see in other environments and you can only kind of you can get that what's through looking at their genes and the genes that they use to communicate with each other so that really cool too. So how do you kind kind of isolate or identify the genes that allow them to communicate Through bioinformatics. Yeah so you can take a sequence sequence and you can compare it to known sequences with known functions and identified putative functions in new genomes. Yeah Yeah I like Well maybe Eric. You made reference to some of the sort of traditional native Hawaiian Cultural Uses of the land. And now you're bringing sort of science into the picture but I I like the fact that is really kind of embrace the the native Hawaiian cultural aspect of it and is that something that the UC being spread across some of the curriculum that. You're you're now introducing I certainly hope so you'll any odyssey's founded in the near point tradition in today's world I think You know there are. Our goals are across the network including doe frameworks really bring Hawaiian Culture to the forefront and I think you know it's important that we leveraged that piece of kind of our students identity and they're kind of cultural sense of place ace because You know quite often times. When these technologies are taught in the science classroom they come from these very generic? You don't you know cosmopolitan I you know and frameworks and For many of our students I think it's much easier to relate But not only that. I think It for me is of course a sense of I think Colin to impart that for our students especially if they want to careers here. I think the Should bring their whole kind of world view in their whole selves to To bear on learning these subjects. And I think that's Only going to get them for their in the local job market hidden on the future. No you mentioned you mentioned the Informatics Network and Dan. I'd like you to talk a little bit about it. Because it's not just limited to you Lonnie students. I mean you have purposely got this technology and curriculum and are spreading it amongst some of the other schools that express interest. So how far and wide is this network. Okay so we're just beginning right. We are just one of several programs at your Lonnie that Take this outward facing mission. Right at Yvonne's you know been kind of at the forefront for money in Opening up these what we call community of schools or communities of schools and were really looking to link kind of teacher to teacher And build a a support network that way one of the reasons for genomics in particular is that you know it's a fast moving field so the content is constantly changing and there's a Lotta overhead associated with Teaching these technologies and so a through our network working let by leveraging our resources were able to kind of expand those opportunities to our network participants and as far as scope You know well. We started With some of the smaller private schools who were kind of the first to raise their hands but since have Pivoted on hard towards a lot of dealey schools so that includes You know we've worked at one high school who I worked with the entire seventh grade at King Intermediate for the past three weeks And we're going to be a Air Kalani Radford are coming up But but likewise we will still be working with You know some of the schools in the independent in independent school district that includes Saint Andrews Bruce Also a Hallway Baptist Academy so and mid pack Middle School So it's a growing list actually now that I'm talking about it. Seems like we're pretty far in short on time on this enabling technology that now allows the students is to get an idea of the genomic information is the technology changed in such a way that it's a lot easier to access as is it. Cheaper is war readily available. Yeah you know to secret. When the first time the human genome was sequenced? It was almost billion dollars. And now you can sequence a human genome for a thousand dollars and it was the these. Next generation sequencing technologies that have just come to the forefront in the last last you know five ten years that have enabled that and so were relying on a particular technology called them in ion developed by Oxford. Nanna in a poor which literally you can hold it in the palm of your hand. It's tiny sequencer but it can produce you know billions of base pairs of data But allows us to bring it into the high school classrooms so that they can run it and see. Yeah so so you know I do WanNa talk a little bit about the kind of the actual curriculum that that you eric are taking to the school. So when a hold that thought we'll be right back to the short break. Do Continue our conversation with Yvonne Channon Eric. Talking about an informatics is bite. Marks cafe support for Bite Marks. Cafe comes from the HP our local talk show fund which helps Hawaii public radio sustain and grow its locally produced talk shows Mahalo to contributors Bush Consulting and island insurance welcome back. Actresses Bite Marks cafe. I'm Bert Lomb if you're just joining us so we're talking to Yvonne Chan and Eric Tongue from Yanni school and about the gathering data from from the land the bacterium studying genomics and of course the creation of the Aloha. `Aina I mean I love. I hear from antics network network and of course right before the break You know we're we're talking about some of the curriculum. That goes out to the to the schools and Eric. You kind of responsible and you actually on a named off of a pretty long list of schools that are now getting involved. What is it that you actually take out there and have you? Are you giving them a pretty much. A starter kit hit to to get involved with An informatics yes. So as Yvonne mentioned we have Mobile lab it's allowed that can pack up on wheels and basically bring to virtually any classroom and we can you know handle about twenty five students in a variety of classroom settings. But you know it's not necessarily a AH for that classroom to be tricked out or you know we bring everything that we need for a particular curriculum that we've designed and Going into the curriculum itself behind every kind of lesson that we've written up for this program. has been Either an inspiration or some type of collaborative of spark From fellow teachers right and so when we were talking about the GMO Papaya was really with one of our teachers Partner I schools or partner classrooms at each day where that kind of idea came up and Teachers continue to kind of registered their interest in variety of topics. And they'll work with them to kind of you know I mean using Maybe you know some of my time. And then some of these resources we can develop up out Kind of you know a piece of curriculum that not only addresses. Maybe that particular classrooms interest but speaks to a variety of classroom settings and so oh really. That's been the process in terms of what we're bringing to. These classrooms on yachts. The Kit. It's the lessons I step in and guests teach which I lead the labs in collaboration with the hosting teacher And you know we kind of have to tailor it to different schedules schedules and different classroom settings. But that's kind of part of it and if there are educators listening that have really cool idea about maybe. Hey this is something something that we'd love to bring into a lesson on. I really encourage them to reach out to us. They'll Yvan the there's a there's a term that I I saw some of the write ups about the bio ethics. And as Eric Talks about S- let's a Papaya. Hurry apply the bioethics piece to the Genomic Data and study. Yeah with these new technologies like crisper which allow you to edit the genome with incredible. We'll precision we have You know issues like superfish being already been created actually designer babies you know bringing back extinct animals like these are all possibilities and realities right now that our students will have to deal with in the future so we feel it's our responsibility ready to inform Our kids so that they understand the technology. Don't fear it and can be informed and participate in the discussion around these technologies so we saw the Aina informatics in and of itself is is it in co uncovering any ethics issues or is it just a forum. By which now we can talk about all these other things that are impacting As a result of this technology acknowledge being more available I mean we so we introduce many of us that are scientists. We weren't introduced to ethics until still a separate course in graduate school and so So this so we introduced the ethics along with technology. And I think that's the the right way to do it instead of adding it on later. That's that's really great that you bring it up because whether it's talking talking about genomic data or artificial intelligence the idea of having a discussion about ethics I think is really important before the before the nuclear bomb. Tom Is being built right. I mean what are the ethical implications of some of this new technology. Now now I mean Eric saw as as you start to see schools getting getting into this. Are you able to kind of keep in touch with them and make sure that they're continuing to have excitement about you. Know some of this new technology. Well we hope so There's a kind of a par- part of our mission also has been to kind of leverage some of the funding that we've been able to garner to to provide a partner schools with entire lab equipment setups for keeps right and in doing so we hope to kind of promote not just dot classrooms You know capacity but also you know the capacity of classrooms in around that particular classroom and so for example. Well you know we Went to Saint Andrews one of our early adopters. One of their teachers. was able to kind of take it upon themselves. Not only just through you kind of You know take on the curriculum but also kind of bring that awareness to neighbouring teachers and the technology technology that we were able to leave at that. School is now being utilized by multiple teachers across different disciplines in science and That's kind of the idea right to grow that long-term CAPAC- and so really you know we've got orders placed firm one on one high school. That's going to be another kind of place where we hope. Hope to foster that type of capacity and ideas not for me to just come in and take over your classroom and provide this lesson as a service Brazil. It's it's really about helping Teachers kind of you know who are busy and stacked with so much other things going on to get them started and then maybe the following year we team teach and then maybe the third year you know. They're doing it on their own equipment. which can help support you mentioned? You mentioned the funding. I mean his his has been successful at getting kind of the initial funding. And how do you see that being sustained over the coming years Yeah Yeah we've been very lucky to get support from private donors initially to start this program and start the pilot and Higher Eric and then we were Really lucky to get it. An e Ford Foundation ran a leadership. Grant that Will to to continue. And we're hoping as more people get excited about about this to kind of keep it going keeping the momentum going fast so you know in in the last Sort of minute and a half or so. I really WANNA get your feedback on and you're getting the kids really exposed to some cool technology and some thinking about the future. What does Hawaii have to do to? Actually we create an environment so that they could perhaps land back here once. They complete their college education. Yeah I mean biotech. Jobs have Those companies know that Hawaii is a place where they can they can do research. And and Yeah provide we can introduce kids to these stem fields and data science and and hopefully they instead of going to the mainland. They'LL WANNA come back comb and they'll have a place to But you're doing a great job of creating the supply. What do we need to do to create the the man? Maybe that's the question to ask. Were for Educators but that's important right because they're all going to end up leaving leaving no hopefully not. I mean we're connecting. Our curriculum is connecting those technologies to the to their place And then our curriculum curriculum is is focused particularly on this place. So where can people find out more information about the by the informatics MM Alani Dot Org backslash informatics very good. I'll put that up on. Our show knows for later on tonight. Yvonne Chan Eric Tong. They're both from Yanni and have created the AINA informatics network. I WanNa thank you both for joining us today. Thank you and thank you for listening to mark fade. Join US next week when we will find out about off the Internet society's indigenous connectivity summit if you miss any part

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Friday Night Guided Meditation | Ajahn Sujato | 3 July 2015

Buddhist Society of Western Australia

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Friday Night Guided Meditation | Ajahn Sujato | 3 July 2015

"Okay very good. So let's do some loving kindness meditation for the next half an hour or so. Hey so sitting here quietly and that you mind settled back inside your body make friends with your body. Just how you sitting there maybe. Your posture isn't perfect. Maybe there's some aches and pains here and there worried about it. Just be friends with your body. Your mind starts to think about this. Do S- be aware of that. Noticed that pay loving attention to that Tho- okay. That's what I'm interested in right now. That's what I care about. That's what I'm involved with. His always a reason why we think of one thing rather than another sedan tried to push your thoughts away then. Try to stop them. Try TO DO ANYTHING IN FACT. Just love them care for them. Accept them the part of you part of who you are and when you love and accept those thoughts gently they become still menu except those thoughts. Let them become still in. You just allow your mind to rest in the peacefulness in the choir had in this space between the thoughts in my mind is reasonably still in client. He said he says the words. May I be happy? May I be happy? May I be happy? Repeating those words again and again and again. He been a steady making a firm foundation via mine. Whatever doubts insecurity whatever holding back there is about. It doesn't pay attention to it. It's not important in keep coming back to to set one thing. May I be happy? May I be happy? May I be happy? And as you continue with those words. He noticed that along with the woods is something. That's more subtle. And that's the feeling of loving kindness very gentle very warm feeling feeling of he's enjoy simple failing of love when you can notice that. Hold it in your hands just like you cupping candle flame in the braves holding it so carefully in keeping it safe minute that feeling of loving kindness soak through your whole body until you're sitting there every part of your body saturated through with a beautiful warm feeling of loving kindness taking that same loving kindness and spreading it out tools Indian beams all beings be happy may all beings be happy may all be happy. Innings of loving kindness spread out across the whole world. Even a how not excluding anybody now coming into the end of the meditation from beings being the Meta back to ourselves. May I be happy? May I be happy? Maybe happy and letting the words of Meta letting the feeling of loving kindness fade away and allowing the mind to come back to neutral space empty pen and clear and just before we finish take a minute to reflect back. Oh via meditation enquiring into cause and effect. Ask yourself what just happened. What changed in your mind. Why did it change? What was interesting year was distracting you. What was calming centering? What is your mind? Feel like now compared to how was it the stat of the meditation? We can dedicate the merit of practice. Mayo beings be happy Mayo. Beings be well may old beans realized Yvonne. Do Sir okay. So if you want to take a minute to district your legs

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Everything Changes; Nothing Remains the Same - Dharma Heart Zen - All Day Sitting August 16, 2020

Everyday Zen Podcast

00:00 sec | 2 months ago

Everything Changes; Nothing Remains the Same - Dharma Heart Zen - All Day Sitting August 16, 2020

"Hi everybody. What is sweep thing to do to be able to? Settle in the midst of the storm's. Feel this very human life. To practice together. I wanted to continue with the theme that. Seemed to have brought with me or brought me. Down from the mountains where I was wandering around for a few weeks. Of, life and death. Start with. Then, mind beginner's mind. Zero she. An encouragement for the day and for the rest of our lives however long that may be. When we practice ause in our mind always follows are breathing. When we inhale the door comes into the inner world. And when we exhale the door goes out to the outer world. The inner world is limitless. And the outer world is also limitless. Say in. Or outer world. But just actually, there is just one whole world. In this limitless world, our throat is like a swinging door. The, air comes in and goes out like someone passing through a swinging door. If, you think breathe the I is extra. You to say I. What we call I is just swinging door which moves when we inhale and exhale. It just moves. That is all. When your mind is pure and calm enough to follow the movement. There is nothing. I know world know, mine no body. Is, no ears and the nose no tongue nobody no mind just a swinging door. Swinging door. Sure can sometimes feel like a wildly swinging door these days with the pandemic and. Climate, crisis and Surfacing exposure of racism the request. Deep. From the entire world to not turn away from injustice. Practice today in for the rest of our lives. Just sitting breathing in this swinging door. Not as a way to escape. But as a way to be here to show up with full. Heart to not turn away. To be willing. To see and feel experience. Life just as it is. impermanent evanescent. And full of suffering. Some of you know I've. Had the opportunity a last week to sit with Yvonne Rand Old Teacher Mentor friend my. Grandmother. Wonderful to sit in the swinging. With Yvonne. Her breath at times was so subtle. It was almost a no breath. Practicing. Letting go. Disappearing. And then she'd appear. At one point we were sitting in that swinging door. Her eyes opened wide up. She looked right at me. And she said. Nice. Very nice. And then she smiled. And her eyes closed. And we just kept. Being swinging doors. Together. She said her daughter Hillary has been a recordings, some Yvonne sayings. During this period of time in her life. Hillary reports that one evening right after evonne entered hospice. Yvonne told Hillary that she was traveling. And she said. I'd rather not keep anything finite. We are all traveling going. In this birth death life and trying like mad to make it finite and noble grasp -able. Yvonne has been practicing for a long time helping many many leave this life. Practicing not keeping anything finite. She said a few days later. It's a good fade. It's a good solution. It's a good fade. It's a good solution. To the exhale. Die The end of the exile. And wonder and surprise the next inhale no no guarantees. For anyone who sat with someone who's dying, which is an amazing gift. There's always that experience in being in this living body that feels separate from that dying body is we're breathing together in an out that we so subtly. Think on zoom. We are breathing together in a subtle energy body, and when there is this thing we call dying and the sale, and then our body this body, this me body weights for the next inhale. And it doesn't come. What is it right there In the mystery. So, I'm going to spend a little bit of time. I've been spending a little bit of time delight. Delighted. This weekend are reviewing some of Yvonne's life death teachings. Yvonne. Probably through San Francisco's on Senator Lineage. Was One of the first. To a turn towards being with dying people as practice as a natural extension of our practice, she has sat was so many people. And we could say dying people. We could say dying planet. We could say those that are dying. In the COVID epidemic, those that are afraid. Those that are dying their life's. Being snuffed out by. Lack of care. And attention and bearing witness to suffering of racial injustice of. Social inequality. So we're going to study life death through Yvonne's teachings and know that we are studying the whole world. One of her core teachings was the five remembrances. Many of you know this. I am of the nature to grow old. There is no way to escape growing old. Sorry. I am of the nature to have ill health. There is no way to escape having ill health. I am of the nature to die. There is no way to escape death. All that is dear to me and everyone I love are of the nature to change. There is no escape from being separated from them. And Five, my deeds are my closest companions. I am the beneficiary of my deeds. The whole world is the beneficiary of our deeds. My deeds are the ground on which I stand. Val. Complete. Emptiness. Complete letting go complete not knowing. And I stand on this ground with and for all beings. Today you sit on this ground in this body in this breath. That is the precepts. That is not turning away. Yvonne had a fierce honesty to her. She talks about working with her fierce judging voice. That is common to Western minds and Yvonne had a particular Yvonne Way of Expressing a fierce judging voice. I know she practiced with this her whole life. I will say with great delight. That, being with Yvonne is. She is now in a place that feels content. That there is peace and ease. So Onward into her teachings. On. So wonder I've been looking on the Internet. It's a wonderful article. called. The critters project I think we'll get. We'll get back to that. But I'll just start with picture you can see it. It's a decaying critter. Little desiccated mouse. A central Tenet in teaching says Yvonne especially in Zan is no picking and choosing. The smelly part of decay goes hand in hand with the sweet smell of the spring roses. Lots of Collins then Cohen's about this. One of the things I love and appreciate about Yvonne. Clearly took up a householder practice turnley rooted in Zen, but in her own particular way. And one of her most favorite stories was the fairy tale Bob Yoga. Do you know that a tale. FAIRY TALES HAVE BEEN DISNEYLAND DEFIED But the original source fairy tales are potent. With the darkness and the light. I'M GONNA. You can relax. Enjoy just this fit will. As much as you can enjoy a potent fairytale potent Russian fairy tale, I'm just going to tell you the. Yoga. Somewhere. I cannot tell you exactly where. But certainly in vast Russia there lived a peasant and his wife and they had twins a son and a daughter. One day the wife died. The husband mourned over her very sincerely for a long time. One year passed and two years and even longer and one day he thought as happens in fairytales and in life. If I marry again possibly, this could turn out. All right. And so he did. And he had children with his second wife. Now in the way of fairy tales, and in the way of human life what a surprise, the stepmother was envious. Of the Stepson and daughter and began to use them hardly she scolded them without reason, sent them away from home as often issue wished, and she gave them scarcely enough to eat. Finally one day wanted to get rid of them all together. But I wonder how many stepsons and stepdaughters we have on our own hearts that we treat fiercely. Go Away. Then, things would be. Okay. You know what? It means to allow a wicked thought to enter was heart. The wicked thought grows all the time like a poisonous plant and slowly kills the good thoughts. A wicked feeling was growing in the stepmother's heart and she determined to send the children to the witch. thinking. Sure. Enough. She could really get rid of them and they never return. So sweetly. Sinking that's not uncommon in our times were saying things. Hiding are true intent. Children. She said to the orphans, go to my grandmother who lives in the forest in a hut on hens feet. You will do everything she wants to and she will give you sweet things and will make you happy. So the orphans. Set. Out. Instead of going to the witch. The sister. who was bright and intuitive took her brother by the hand and ran to their own old old ram mother. Theresa, Goodrich and a band which in the story. And she told the old old grandmother Zen stories are full of grandmotherly wisdom old ladies sitting at the crossroads she told her everything that was happening. Miss Old old grandmother wise. Had seen it all. Said own my poor darlings. My heart aches free you. Oh my poor darlings, my heart aches for you. But it is not in my power to help you. I can't fix this and make it. Okay. But now listen to me my darlings. I will give you a hint. Are you listening? Become kind. And good to everyone. Do not speak ill words to anyone. Do not despise helping the weakest and always help that for you to there will be the needed help. Kindness. CARE. Right kind speech. Helping being willing to respond. So the children went off with this advice in their hearts. And went into the forest is they had been told by their stepmother because habit patterns and. They were on this jury in this particular life and they came to a hut. And it stood on tiny hints feet and at the top was a roosters head and it could spin and turn. And when they looked inside, there was the old. Level which sitting there. He'd be malevolent. Her head was near the threshold one foot on one corner. The other foot in another corner and her knees quite close to the Ridge. Pole and the children were afraid. Now, I want to tell you that when Yvonne built a little monastery up in Mendocino and she had little retreat huts. She built them all on chicken legs. She built Baba Yoga's Hut. WAS THAT ABOUT She didn't build a little good grandmother Hut she built the Chicken Hut. And this. Old which said to them. Not opposed to keeping you children, but you have to satisfy all my wishes. And if you don't eat you up. I think maybe a lot of olds masters of said. Show up that old stick people used to carry I'll eat you up the world will eat you up show up and we'll see what happens and so the children trying to be good children afraid children. They worked hard and they did impossible work and they tried and they tried and they tried and the more they did it was done and then it was undone they couldn't get it right They couldn't please this demanding internal external voice. And so one day the little girl wiped away her bitter tears. appeared in front of her. A little mouse. Squeaking and saying sweet girl do not cry. We will help you. Here are some cookies some crumbs the little girl willingly did some. and. Then the little mouse got the black cat involved. And then they were little birds passing by. Said kind hearted children. If you give us, some crumbs will advise you. So as she became more tender. A whole world began to come forward. To help. And began to teach how to complete impossible tasks. And then how to become free So they made their plans, they were terrified. They escaped. And when the witch discovered they were gone she was enraged and screamed at the animals. Why did you help them? And the kind animal friends said. They were kind to us. And they cared for us. which got new broom she went off. Then a river appeared to stop her the whole world began to help. And then the forest closed in around the old witch. And she couldn't pursue them, and so she went home very angry. The orphans found their way home. As we're finding our way home to our deep heart. And the father watched over them with happiness and neighboring elected them anymore. I heart aches for you. And we in our fear. Also find the voice of an aching heart. Knowing that we can't fix this world we can't fix this life death world, but we can practice kindness and goodness. Practice how we speak. Despising anyone. Cherishing. Vulnerability. As, we would want to be. This is from Yvonne Rans website was written by Edith Simon. Called on Sane. Objectivity are seal of veracity. Resides in the concrete and measurable, it would seem. But everything is not concrete and measurable far from it. Concrete facts and tangible data are only ingredients of truth. Scattered in disorder until the subjective mind is allowed to bring them into cohesion. The. Truth. It has been demonstrated over and over. Is What we make of it. Our deeds. and. The value of it to ourselves does not rest in a final absoluteness. which is in any case impossible of attainment. But in the use we make of it. How are you living? How are we practicing? How are we? Sitting being this swinging door in breath out breath. Don't know. But here. Together in this fast human condition. And in our shared one heart. Yvonne Rand Married a second time to bill stirling who died a couple of years ago they lived out in their chicken hut. Retreat. bill they two of them were their together alone and bill guide suddenly of a heart attack right there. In front of her. Yvonne was at this point descending. Into dementia but I also think a no from being with her the other day. There can be cohabitation of dementia and Great Wise Open. mind. I've seen it. Actually, we did the Jesus Jesus dedication at Green Gulch farm. We invited Yvonne to speak. Yvonne who was Had moved into dementia Yvonne got up in front of the crowd and she gave the clearest Armagh talk anybody had ever heard. It blew US away. How can that happen? Were so linear. It's gotta be this or that no, it's a swinging gate. That's what we're practicing. So Yvonne. Looked at bill. She said. I think he's dead. Then she called her daughter. She knew. And of course, later she grieved him, she missed him but she wasn't shocked by death. Because she's been looking at in the eye for a long time the. Birth will end in-depth. Youth will end in old age. Meetings will end in separation wealth will end in loss. All things encyclical existence are transient and impervious. I would go to visit Yvonne. She more and more became an old crone. Herself. Walked slowly, wander down the garden pass wasn't clear to me where we were going at all. We'd study the stones and the plants, and then we'd always end up at the end of the path. That there was this a barn that they had turned into bill had turned into a library and she would open the door, but it wasn't just a library. Yvonne early on, took up the practice of. Contemplating decomposition. And it would be open box after box and trays, and they were all of these. She would ask people to bring road kill to her. And then she would watch them study them in the process of decomposition. In the process of not turning away. The story is apparently that was talking to Wendy Johnson yesterday who witnessed the early parts of how this evolved. This was not so. This did not make her students. Happy. She would when she would do sittings, she would put. These decaying animals on the altar. And Bill would say Yvonne we're having this is before dementia this was very clear thinking or not. Bill would say it. So, here's this an article in enquiring mind I'm GonNa read you little bits about. My experience in the article with another, she would open boxes to reveal a raptor mice and moles, lizards and bats, various kinds of finches, several turtles, snakes, and frogs, toads of Fox magnificent sturgeon, some remains already skeletal and others still rank and in various stages of decree decay. With the baby birds she would say. Notice the incredible transition shapes and structure from bone feather. A whole world of death reveals so much about life. And the structure of being. Don't turn away. We just WanNa look at the good stuff. And it's horrifying. This bad stuff that's happening in the world right now don't sync in it don't move into despair I mean feel what needs to be felt but good heavens let's stop being shocked. Let's keep finding are ground together. That's what Yvonne. taught and is teaching in her living and her dying. That's what we're helping. Each other don't turn away. She says I find the process of these critters deco decomposing remarkable. In many ways this practice grew out of my sitting with people while they died. It really began for me when Suzuki row she got sick and was in his own dying process. I had been Suzuki row secretary and assistant for almost six years. So going through this, dying with him was an extension of the relationship. The two of US already had. That's all. Just next step. That's all. This world right now it's just an extension of a relationship that we've had with ourselves in the world and each other. From. The moment we call born. To care of his wife as well. Took care of Suzuki she as well as his wife into Suzuki. S. Zucchero she became more and more quiet. All of a sudden arm would appear from under the quilt and he would hold it straight from the air and I knew. That he wanted. Me Yvonne to massage for a little while. If on was doing the same thing the other day it was so sweet. Just, she just leaned forward and let me rub her back. Nothing extra. It was it was it was just it was it was almost animal like and her skin is so soft and warm and she was so. Appreciative just touch just relationship just not going away. Just, here. Zucchero, she was fully present with whatever was happening moment by moment. Cancer, he had is associated with extremely intense pain. Now I don't want WanNa Romanticize this I've seen people I deeply respect zen practitioners and intense pain and there was an intense pain. So there's no right way but with Suzuki row she she never saw him be uncomfortable. He was so present. With whatever was there? That's you know when we spend these days and it's uncomfortable and we want to move on our knees hurt and we can be out running around doing this and that and I love to do that as much as anybody. But if you sit and if you sit deeply. We will meet all kinds of states of mind and we will meet. Body pain and aches. Guaranteed. Not because it's a mistake. But because we're ally. That's all. That's why we do this together, we help each other. Be Really hard to do long retreats by ourselves not that we couldn't do it but I stay because you stay and you stay because I stay. Mistake because the person next to you even on these zoom screens that's what we do. All the way through. Swinging door. When he died, they sat with him. They took him to the mortuary. And back then it wasn't so common. Now it's more common then circles not an. Quote. Conventional circles is we? Do, a service and the body into the fire and watch it burn. That's what they did was. Securtiy. Mississippi push the button. She says, that's the way it used to be. Body was just kept on the table. In the kitchen table, it wasn't hidden away. Let's just. Turn away from what's difficult. And if we get reactive and we get scared, that's okay. Find your breath and your belly. She said after a while different people and I witnessed this when I was living at Green Gulch and choose down at Muir, beach other people would ask to help people die and then she developed Jesus ceremony. She says one she sat with. Friends Dying Coyote. All the way through. Wasn't. So particular about. Hierarchy rank of beings. Harry Robertson Old Yearbook Indian Very Wonderful Messy Guy who taught us in the garden Said when he was dying, he said, what are you going to do with the carcass after I die? Yvonne said I a close all the offices, and then I'll wash your body with tea made from year Basan. That I've gathered from Montana pious, and then we'll put some medicine pieces from your medical tradition into your hands and we'll sit with your body for three days, and then we'll take your body to be cremated and then can bury it. An old hairy, no big deal just said, that's way too much trouble. Just put the carcass out the back door. Let the dogs take care of. She says Harry was quite economists about his body. I have the feeling with Yvonne. Whatever happens She'll be. Okay. And her daughter Hillary is taking impeccable care of her. Here's one of the. Trace. The decaying critters. Admit. That the maggots make me a little squeamish. And when they're eaten down to the bone there like shining jewels, it's beautiful. Yvonne says, turning toward what is initially repellent I'm cultivating a capacity to be present with whatever arises in any given moment. In Our culture, we keep trying to skew to what we want. What we like. What smells Nice. The way we think it should be. We shun being present with whatever is. Exactly in each moment. When an amazing opportunity we have right now as practitioner bodey sought for practitioners. Makes you uncomfortable. It's okay. Take a breath and come back. Swinging door. The cogent meditators ceases to be afraid. I'm cultivating a capacity to be present with whatever arise in any given. And then amazingly. In the midst of it, what arises is what has always been there is kind mind. Loving kindness compassion sympathetic joy equanimity for immeasurable 's. It's who we truly are. Remember that old good grandmother in the Bobby Yoga Story. Got To, go in the chicken feet hut. But we go in with kind mind compassionate mind sympathetic joy and equanimity or we find along the way we help each other. And finally on says, I can't emphasize enough the what interests me is completely connected to being alive. There is no separation. Part of being alive is being open to dying death. Decomposition. Terrible politics. Worldwide. Pandemics. The unknown of. Birth and death of this planet, and how will find our way out and how we're going to take care of our fellow human beings and animals. We are part of it all. Not everyone wishes to know this. We liked the ideas interconnection. To embody it. Over and over. Hillary. Some of the things that Hillary sent to me when I was sitting there Suzuki row, she's on the altar. bookcase right next to Yvonne Hugely present that was my experience. Few days ago Yvonne said Suzuki reissues sitting on the Ledge and I've been talking with him all morning. What we think time and space is, what do we think this birth death thing is? Later that same day she said I had a wonderful talk with Suzuki And still later. I want you to know my feelings for Suzuki rushing. Here is. What lineages? Is it's asked beyond through time and space and beyond time and space. Sh-. Those that you love is teachers are in your heart. In our collective heart we sit listen. Whether it's a mouse or a bird. Or an old wii grandmother or even things that make us tremble in the night. Listen. They're teaching US trying to help us wake up. Can Cause Ours and is just to be ourselves. When we do not expect anything we can be ourselves. At is our way to live fully in each moment of time and this practice continues forever. So today. Sitting, and she can tosses ause often without moving. Without expecting anything as if it were your last moment. Moment after moment feel it as your last instant. In each installation and eats. There are countless instance of time. What do we think time is? The intention is to live in each instance here. Here's here. Keep coming back. I practice smoothly, exhaling been inhaling. Calmness of mind is beyond the end of your exultation. If. You exhale smoothly without even trying to exhale. Entrust yourself to the body and the breath. This is not you being in control you are entering into complete perfect calmness of mind. You not exist anymore. When you exhale this way the naturally you're inhalation will start from there. And all that fresh blood bringing everything from Will Pervade your body. This is trust and faith practice. You don't have to do this. Give yourself over and over. and. You will be completely refreshed. And then you start to exile to extend that fresh feeling again into emptiness. Give it away. Give it away with and for all beings. Moment after moment without trying to do anything. This. Is it You will gradually vanish. Sh. Wear lots of stuff could come up in this because the ego probably does not think this is such a good idea. So in the same way we. Look at the dying carcass and go. Man You. Know whatever arises fear study fear for yourself and for all of us so much fear right now. K.. COME BACK COME BACK And then inhaling without any effort, you naturally come back to yourself in some color form. Exhaling you fade into emptiness. Inhaling. Oh. I'm still alive. Oh. I'm still alive and then he says fortunately or unfortunately. She lived through Japan in World War. Two. Suzuki rushing do. We know. Don't turn away. Little Mouse. So beautiful. onto the bones skin flesh bones and Mero don't know we'll help each other. Of. Course we get scared. Okay. This is the verse city Von said as a closing verse during retreats. Even as night darkens the green earth, the wheel turns. Death follows birth. Strive through the night with every breath. Strive through the dark the unknown. Those places where you just WanNa run and turn away. do it with kindness. And with a deep Dharma heart for yourself and for everybody. Strive through the night with every breath that you may wake. Past Day and passed. I keep thinking of Yvonne disappearing. and coming back the smile to say to me. Nice. Very nice. Whatever we think we're afraid of at the end of the exile. In the next moment. It's not what we think. And our body sought football asks us. To be here. Good Heavens the world needs this right now. Deep sincere practitioners. Per personal suffering? Family suffering. Community suffering. World. And we don't have to pick or choose. Summer rain. And Thunder and lightning. And Spring Summer Winter Bloom birth death. My goodness don't Miss It. Not Through your head through your body posture breath. That's what we're doing today in forever. So, you get restless, you get agitated you get bored. Okay. You're human. Anger. Sure. Be this way wanted to be this way. You're in Baba Yoga's hut. Just. Where von wanted us to be? Kind Mind. Joyful mind. Sympathetic joy just receiving each thing be just this just. So we're GONNA do outside walking meditation now in a minute. Just feel your feet on the earth. Receiving. Whatever comes. Notice if you don't like it notice if you see decay notice if you feel joy. It's all. Just this just this. Let's be fully. Alive in this swinging gate together, we'll help each other I promise. Because Buddha's right here helping us. Her. Okay. So let's do the after lecture chant, which is the body sucks vow. I. Someone said to me earlier today I can't remember something about. The Thunder. Awesome to sit some decision she'd made and she had agreed agreed to it. and. So follow through and I. Came to me and I said, was you know? When we somehow along the way whatever happens who knows decided to have human birth. Like I. Agreed. Didn't agree to whatever you gotta life. You gotTA body. You got this particular life. Let's follow it all the way through and it includes everything. Thank you, Buddha. Thank you each one of you for your body sat for life and path and out. Beings are numberless. Vowed to save them. DELUSIONS ARE INEXHAUSTIBLE A vow to end them. Dharma Gates. Are. Boundless. I, vow to enter. Them. Buddha's ways and surpassable. I vow to be. So Debbie will ring a bell but all be back here at eleven forty. Please whatever you meet. Today. These vast unknowable moments made it as much as you can with kindness and some sense of. Gratitude and thank you if even moments of joy. That's okay. Okay, everybody. Happy Walking Meditation See back here at eleven forty.

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The Imbalanced History Of Rock And Roll: Famous First Lines

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The Imbalanced History Of Rock And Roll: Famous First Lines

"A Ray. How're you feeling? I'll tell you what my knees or a little sore today, and that means I need some CBD. I think I have to agree with you on that Ray because I've had back issues since we've had our son plus don't forget. You're an athlete. You're a big bicycle rider, so that kitchen know imp- occasional pain from from the workout involved with that not to mention what it does the. The wear and tear on your joints. It's all part of being active and aging and CBD as you said mixed with the little medicinal really makes a difference in controlling the pain you know marcus when it comes to see, be a. we have a new sponsor. One CBD and they have the right idea. I think when it comes to making the CBD products that you want to manage your pain, they work. Work with him. Farmers committed to sustainable development with the benefit of the environment in which is important people, too. 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Yeah, really life has been weird the last punch amounts, but I was in the city, I saw a werewolf with a Chinese menu, his hand walking through the streets of Soho in the rain. Wow, that does sound kind of weird and I was sober. WAS THE WEREWOLF SOBER I? have no idea how well going gonNA. Go Talk to him. I just happened to hear about it on the radio. For the Chinese menu hand. Through the streets, and so with the way, and if by now you're not already wondering, what are these two guys babbling about? It's the latest episode of the Imbalance History of rock and roll sponsored by crooked eye brewery in the heart of Hafbro since twenty fourteen, and it is also a new concept twist. Be with US twist. It's a new for the imbalance history of rock and roll. We're calling it famous I lines. It's an important part of the rock and roll family tree, because believe it or not, these first lines of songs have inspired so many people but to you. You and I who listen to music, those first lines sometimes are the parts of the songs that hit us hard in the fields, and really pull us in, and if a song can pull you in from the get go, you're hooked, and that's why we decided to focus on first lines, and these are songs. Their first line or lines will set up the rest of the song. They instantly tell you a lot of the things. You need to know what this song is going to be about if it's new to you and when you hear this song that you're quoting. I offer those who don't know and art in the Bizarre Colt of where wolves or does that come from who? It comes from the where wolves a London. Yes, and the story behind Warren's Yvonne again. If you're not indoctrinated, we're just making sure. We're covering dot, knoller teas and crossing all our is. It's just one of those songs that ever since I've heard it. As a as a wee lad, I've always loved it. It's made me laugh. It's made me smile. It's made me bounce. It's made me move. It just makes you feel really good when you hear it and I just continued. Continued every time I, hear the song love it and I've been lucky enough to hear it several different ways over the years we've talked before about the WM Mr Broadcast Series from the main point longtime gone and this song where a London in some small part, maybe not so small owes a lot of its infamy and fame to the main point, wm are from the broadcast series. Of course, the one that we play is the version that Zebulon did live on the air. wfan Martin I guess. I've heard some talk on the West, coast. I've heard there's a bizarre worlds and Brent Maher. Wasn't just a rumor. About. How to how? Who the. How? Whether or not the moon. Moons always fully. His. Walk through the. Rain. Asana find a place called the home, folks. GonNa get himself a fictitious FBI shall. We play that now, but somewhere out there lush probably knows where it is to somewhere out there. There's a copy of Jackson Browne performing it live on our months before I'm would come to town. which was before, zebulon would go and record. What would be on excitable boy, his version of where of London inspired by the movie where wolves? I discovered the where wolves London. To. Now everywhere above the tropic of Cancer. That what's coming down snare. However Jamaica as where they put their foot. Song was written by Warren's Yvonne remember the names Eve going. Where will with the Chinese menu in his hand? Through the streets, and so in the rain, and suggested by Phil Everley this Yeah Phil Everley said your it was in an article that I read where Warren and all them. We're talking about the making of it. Rolling Stone did the secret inspiration. Yvonne's warrant or Wadi Wadi. Wadi. Go Get your woody in your body trusting. My Woody Creates Awadhi. Doesn't create a woody. Who is Yes was the guitar player on that Song? Even though I think Rick Marotta did a lot of the guitar on the album, so he was co writer with he popped out. First Lineup with Warren and Leroy Marinella exactly like they were stuck on the first line of. How do they get? They add the idea. Okay. It's going to be about this and we're GONNA. Make you Kinda gory in this. And then Wadi just popped it out. No Pun intended. It's funny. That Phil Everley saw what kind of a sense of humor warns Yvonne had, and what type of person he is that he would say you should write. Write a song about the werewolves of London because I saw this movie on this kick and boom I think Ziv on. Had that effect on everybody that encountered him during his time on this blue marble, and the funny thing is is that they connected on the first warns Yvonne, the Self titled Album not the One dead or alive from sixty nine, but the the the first album for asylum, and so they kinda traded some spheres of influence there you know funny that he wasn't on it or on that album, but you know who is playing bass and drums on where wolves the original one, and only who do you know I think? I think you got me. One of the most famous bass drum duos that works like machine. Every time they're on stage are in the studio. John mcvie and Mick fleetwood. fleetwood MAC guys I forgot about that. I knew that I knew that. Wait a minute I. Forgot Totally Brain Fart and I knew that that's right because. Exactly. Actually Danny coach Maher was the other guitar and didn't a few other people play. That didn't get the right sound on it, and they had brought in a few other people to play some parts that didn't work during the recording that because they spent a lot of time and money on this Song Jordan Yvonne wrote a book and I haven't read it, but I'll bet. Bet You the answers in there. We have to get that book. Get that book. We'll go to a local bookstore in order. Yes, low suggests go to your local bookstore in order books about anything, but especially rock and roll. You can get any book you want at your local bookstore. Just ask and it's funny. How Jackson Browne just keeps showing up and all of these stories. Like he's just there. Jackson Browne. Where was the London in the same conversation I immediately go to the break damage him and David Linley. Ooh, because they did a completely different and so they kinda got everybody knowing the saw. We'll learn do. Zeev on comes to town and he gets up there and starts playing around in this by then he had become notorious for it and had become friends with Wm, their broadcast and the thing, and he's up there talking and playing the intro kind like vamping while he's talking about Jackson told me there was a bizarre CODA. Where Wolves in Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania and everybody house and he was I guess it was more than just a rumor at me like the humor in and the way he personalized it, and that kind of leads us to the most recent embodiment of where wolves of London. Which I'm sure, you love they call themselves. themselves. The immediate family and it's Waddy Wachtel and it looks like he's got Leland, scar and Danny Maher who I just mentioned as being part of the guitar production team for excitable boy. Steve Postel and Yeah Leland Sklar Russ Kunkel who is like on every other record. You know there was like all these guys. They were all in the same records together all the time and they did a lot of work together, so he pulled them all together, and they did it remotely as the immediate family. They performed together, but since they can't be together. They thought they do it. And it's it can find that by the way thanks to Pantheon podcast. PODCAST for posting it, you can find it on the imbalance history of rock and roll's facebook page, and everywhere else I. Guess but I just think it's great that they're doing that. And then they had a little line. They changed where it reference to. It's always about the Taylor I think there was a Liz Taylor reference. Live one point, and they said something about because everybody in this band, except for to have been fired by James Taylor and I thought that was fucking hysterical man, having some fun and somewheres Yvonne's looking on. That's right, boys. That's what I said. Keep me in your heart for a little. It's amazing the way he's able. Able to personalise those particular lines in the songs and throw him to either members of the band, or make them timely I'm sure to the locale of which where he was playing, and that's brilliance, it really is. It also shows the ability to think on your feet, or at least a plan to think on your feet you know, and that's the way it came through. When the man took the stage, and when we come back here on the imbalance, history or rock and roll, we'll talk about my first famous first line, which is also warns Yvonne and talking about the night I almost knocked him off the stage here on the. Streets of rock and roll, but I a sip of the brew 'em and I've got great news for anybody who is a fan of crooked eye brewery. Our sponsors here on the podcast. There are reopened lot. That's right. 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Yes, indeed and remember if you're looking for a place to go right in the heart of hat borough, there is a place for you serving the Cure. Cure for what ails you since twenty four team, we're talking about crooked eye brewery and keep up with all the developments on their social media mainly on facebook, the best way to know what's going on today tomorrow and this week at crooked eye brewery and there are adjusted hours Marcus they're closing at eight Monday through Thursday, but open later now on the weekends as the music starts to return crooked eye. It's recoup and Marcus in darkest with a new concept here on the imbalance history of rock and roll. It's called famous I lines, and this is our debut edition I. Think it's going swimmingly well so far talking about Warren's Yvonne and your Fav- The where wolves London yes, the story that the werewolves of London tells is Hilarious, funny, brilliant, and very lighthearted and very local, depending on where warns. Over the years well, that was a team writing expedition, but for my first song on famous I lines I also want to reach into the same. Yvonne songbook onto excitable boy for this little nugget I went home with a waitress the way I always do. How was I didn't know she was with the Russians to? It tells you everything you need to know about what the draw is going to be in this song that it's GonNa. Be something something's going on. Okay, and if the first two lines don't clue in the Knicks one gets you. I was gambling in Havana. I took a little risk. Well, the next line is kind of where you're headed. Send lawyers, guns and money, Dad, give me at this and then the three, Martin's Yvonne. The way I always. Saw? You know it's written by Yvonne Solo. So you're really getting the stream of consciousness that he had that flowed out of a lot of times when he was writing and playing different from the production on the other track. Where was the London this one had Rick Marotta on drums? Where was London had hit in January seventy eight and this single lawyers, guns and money was released in July that year, and so it kept excitable boy on the radio pretty much for the entire year of nineteen seventy eight. This song lawyers, guns and money was the one that really grabbed me more than where wolves because of the. The imagery and it's in the whole album. Just you know Roland all the different songs, they all this vivid imagery going on, but when he says you know what the situation is, and you realize it isn't good and the funny thing about this on c. goes in as an innocent bystander, somehow I got stuck between a rock and a hard place, and I'm down on my luck and he. He starts screaming imploringly right and hiding in Honduras. I'm a desperate man. Send lawyers, guns and money the shit is it and that's what it's really all about, and he puts it in song. I'm sure kept it off a lot of radio stations, but people did do at its of it, and some people just played it because it was accepted artistic expression at one point, certainly in one thousand. Thousand Nine hundred seventy eight, so, but the thing is, is that when you get those first lines and both these songs and you see it in this one is well. You know I went home with a waitress. The way I always do so right away. You're thinking about the Guy Right. You're thinking like ladies man, yeah bit of a ladies man. Maybe he's got a regular waitress like. Waitress all the time. Maybe maybe it's as simple as my girlfriend's a waitress, but he says it I went home with a waitress. The way I always do, and then the next largest takes away out of Gonzo left field. How was I to know? The Russians to. Absolutely there's the humor in it and the cleverness that always gets me all his songs, and it's just great. The song plays kind of like a james bond spy novel in some ways with the Havana reference the Russians reference the Cold War reference hiding out in Honduras when there was no extradition to the United States at that point seventies. I'm pretty sure what man you're really good on that stuff I'll tell you that you should do a imbalance history of world history. That's what you should. Music way better, but you know when you look at it. There are all these alternate lyrics to where wolves of London I don't know that there's been a lot alterations made to lawyers, guns and money, but it is a great song on down. That is stack with them in excitable boy. It really is a great album and I think he referred to wear. Wolves of London is the third song in his horror, trilogy or something like that, and he had written to other songs on the album that were part of the horror trilogy, and again he uses such great humor mixed with just bizarreness. And you were saying about? You know watch and watch a bunch of horror movies and write a song them. One of them was called. Where was as London in that kind of became the whole genesis at thing, but yeah you get your inspiration from wherever, and in that one. It's real life plowing its way into the arts. You know and Wadi also talked about the recording of this album. He said that for as easy as where wolves of London was to put together as a song recording, it was the hardest part of the whole album and they really hated it. And they were pissed that the label released. That is the single, even though it blew up right away, they wanted something else because they thought it was just a silly song. Lawyers guns and money and that's why they got excitable. Boy A, but the thing is maybe the label. Guys were clued into what was going on in Philly in New York and with this guy on the east coast. Who D-? Who Really didn't you know? Have the record out? He only had the one record that everybody had dead or alive. Really never had any traction at all. It put the first record did and they knew that. That they needed to get him out there and get him out to play where he could do that song because it was already popular there because he been there and because Jackson had been. You know what would be really cool is warns Yvonne played a bunch of shows during that time like the main point in different cities for radio stations. I would love to hear his Boston version of where wolves his Dallas version of where Werewolf. Version, but like if he played although cities his, you know his versions of werewolves of London and how he localized them. I think that would be really cool all right. And I love it and if they exist, I wanna hear him, but what if they don't exist? And what if it was only here? where he had that kind of connection because of what Jackson did introducing? Introducing him musically to Philadelphia before that I'm just saying hey, if you're out there, and you're one of our many friends in radio, who do listen to the podcast in? You know that there's versions you know about Cleveland or new. York or anywhere else. Please let us know because you guys have lived at two. And maybe we miss something. Their stations like W M in Cleveland. Version. W in New York. They did this stuff all the time. We were all the metromedia stations, and that was part of the tradition was to allow money to be spent the broadcast artists that were breaking up because of your radio station. It was pretty cool and you know what am Mars. The only one that's still doing true. Did I forget to tell the story that you wanted to hear Oh. Yeah, you almost stay. You had mentioned earlier that you had almost knocked warns Yvonne Office Stage What. Were you asking me if I had met him before and I think we met briefly. Briefly, backstage in talked very nice guy, and all that stuff and a bunch of people were there and I was coming off the stage I. Don't remember exactly what year was but I'll I'll have to go back and look it up, and I was coming off the stage, and he was just playing a solo, stand up to him and an acoustic guitar coming up, and in the awkward exchange of space and pleasantries I bumped him, and he was defenseless, because he had a guitar in his hands, it almost went off the back of the stage. He had no chance of surviving. And the only reason he didn't and I'm really was redemptive, because I'd have my head for my whole life, but at that moment I just reached out and grabbed a matriarch grab his jacket and the guitar straps. I know ain't have a little bit of both in I just yanked and he just stood up well, that was weird. Thanks in any walked out. ONSTAGE Ladies Warns Yvonne He goes out and performs Lennon interesting human being and I always appreciated that he didn't get on stage and talk shit about the big goof in the back almost put me into the cheap seats. He could add that to where we'll the London and some. A big. Hit in third row. Well these are the fun lives that we live in rock and roll, sometimes you intersect with people directly and F- In a physical way that can almost knocked them off state, but it doesn't happen too often. Thank God for that. At the same time. We all get to experience the music. The same way as fans of the music is music that we feel is music we love and there's a common relate ability that we can share. I remember one of my buddies We were all eagles Jackson Browne. Fans, we. We had jd salvo records. We were into the whole thing, right, somebody, excitable boy, I was young dad, so I took like some time away from family, and I went off to hang out with my buddies, and have a couple beers, and they played it. We must have played it twice. And from that moment on. That was probably when the first came out I've been a big fan of that one. And then I went back and got the first one and went back and got dead or alive so. Appreciate a man's work. You know what I'm saying. You get into it and yeah you do that, but so do this first episode of famous I lines with two songs from the Great. Warren's Yvonne just makes me Happy Marcus. I really wanted to do a famous for songs and I think we had originally spoken about doing our five favorite I lines, but there's so much to talk about with a lot of these songs and the opening lines and the relevance, and we can get along Sahfiqul about it, but I was thinking about famous I lines and five or out in the. There's so many great songs that we have listened to over the decades that are thirty forty fifty sixty years old five years old two years old six months old, but those opening lines really make a difference in pulling us into those song. If you're get, your brain is a spotify thing type thing you know how many. Times! Have you listened to this on that song and Morons Yvonne So, where was a London? Certainly one of those with a high spin count, both of our brains dude a without a doubt. The were collecting royalties on our brain spins. They'd be rich. We'd be in trouble we'd be bankrupt. Anything new that's why week. Ourselves the imbalance history of rock and roll sponsor by crooked eye brewery in Hafbro and online at crooked eye brewery dot com. So much fun, and now we got to come up with some more of these famous I lines. If you have a song you want us to do. Famous I lines maybe grabs you. Let us know. Maybe we can accommodate. You can get you into the flow here on the podcast. 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Heroes History Forgets

Poetry Off The Shelf

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Heroes History Forgets

"This is poetry off the shelf I mainly another group. Today Heroes History forgets. The Irish Poets Yvonne Volant spent a lifetime questioning history who gets to write. It gets left out. And instead of focusing on statesmen and battlefield heroes, her poems often senator lives that leave few traces. Potato. Farmer collapsing from hunger on a quiet country road a grandmother standing in between her table and chairs on the street after being convicted. A woman suburb raising children. Near the beginning of the pandemic. Yvonne Boland died of a stroke on April twenty-seventh at the age of seventy five mere months before the publication of her eleventh poetry collection, the historians. In the historians she refines an argument she'd been mulling over for decades. For instance, the difference she saw between history capital age, and the past where most of our lives end up. Here. She is talking about that about ten years ago at the lunch poems reading in Berkeley took me a long time to see that there was a very big difference in Ireland between the past and history that history was an official version and a version of heroes. But that the past was a place of really shadows and whispers and failures defeats as time went on that rift seemed to me bigger and bigger. And I wrote this poem I. Suppose at the end of that sense of things myself poem called Quarantine. It comes from a sentence in a book called Michelle Fan, which was published at the start of the twentieth century. A man remembering a very small village carrick star in West Cork where the famine hit hard to young people left their cabin and walk back in the cold from the workhouse and they. went to that cabinet were found dead in the morning but he had tried to warm her feet as she died and they go into those sentences for about four clauses and they vanish this is quarantine. In the worst our of the worst season of the worst year of a whole people. A man set out from the workhouse with his wife he was walking they were both walking north. She was sick with famine fever and could not keep up he lifted her and put her on his back. He walked like that West and West and north. Until at nightfall under freezing stars they arrived. In the morning, they were both found dead. Of Cold of hunger of the toxins of a whole history. But her feet were held against his breast bone. The last heat of his flesh was his last gift to her. Let no love poem ever come to this threshold. There is no place here for the inexact to praise of the easy aces and sensuality of the body. There is only time for this Marcelo's inventory. Their death together in the winter of eighteen, forty seven. Also what they suffered, how they lived and what there is between a man and woman. And in which darkness, it can best be proved. Yvonne Boland's was the daughter of painter and a diplomat. It was her father's diplomatic career that took Er away from Ireland for most of her childhood I London Than, York. She only came back to Dublin at the age of fourteen and would always try and recreate in her imagination the year she lost their. The last twenty, four years of her life. She divided her time between Dublin and Palo Alto where she headed the creative writing program at. Stanford To do justice to this life in two places, I talked to people who knew her well, the scholar jody, Allen Randolph and Santa Barbara California. And the poet Paula million in. Dublin Ireland. And because Yvonne Boland died while the Covid nineteen restrictions were at their most severe. I I asked both of them. What the funeral had been like can you talk a little bit about what that was like if you participated maybe a poly, you can start paying. It. In the church in Don Rome, Her locality there was a Webcam there. So we watched us on Web Webcam am the word would have gone out to light a candle at eleven thirteen time to the funeral. So all over the country and I'm sure all over the world people were lighting candles. In community strange and all acetates. webcam itself was incredibly powerful and moving on in some strange way ferry Yvonne ask because normally when a poet dies here, it's you know especially oppose of stature it's occasional pomp and ceremony in shame Sienese funeral was broadcast to the nation. Official Ireland turns up the president would be there or his representatives or representatives. So there is a sense of pomp and ceremony and event funeral was so star. We would watch it from behind The priest would be facing the Web Webcam, so we would see the backs of our beloved. Catherine we would save the Max of beloved doll offers, and of course, the liveliness talk the grandchildren those a prime in the aisle. So there was a great sense of herself at her own funeral and I I, felt in a strange way that absolutely perfect heartbreaking was. Jody, how did you experience it well, pretty much has Pollard describes. So if there was a silver lining to dying during Cova dish, she probably got the funeral she wanted wouldn't have had. So, it was very moving, but it was also very lonely because I thought from California and I'm so glad I did but it was three thirty in the morning here. There's no way to know who you're watching. It's strange experience, of course. Yeah I wanna ask you both maybe again starting with you Paula. What your relationship was to Yvonne in how how you met if that is relevant or just what your relationship was like well, as often happens in the living tradition, I would have been reading her before well before I met her I went states in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, one to study for a Master of Fine Arts Open Washington state. and. Jim McCauley might teacher. He knew I just revered events work and he asked her to be the outside examiner for my thesis and she agreed on she wrote an extraordinary critique of my while became basically my first collection of poetry a really ferocious critique I mean no-holds-barred. No flattery. No praise. Except Lille Lille at response you know which was worked to me like it was priceless Marvelous. So. When I came back to Dublin, she got in touch with me to invite me to read other. Event that I might of resisted it was for a magazine called image, which was kind of a glossy function women's Issues magazine and I turned up and matter for the first time it was fantastic and she was introducing the writers and she said, what would I say you're interested in an ice isolated class? And that was the start of many really interesting conversations around the whole issue of the class structure in Ireland who has access to. Education platforms to speak especially in poetry row. That was the beginning of a long lifelong friendship around engagement with ideas. Yeah and you Jodi. Well I met down in the late eighties I. Think there's a graduate student at University College, Dublin and. I had an article accepted for publication on her work. So by the time I met her a year or so later. A guest teacher at University College Dublin and She had seen the article that I had written and she told me she didn't like it and she's not her cup of tea and she said, but let's go have coffee after class and we'll talk about it and that gradually turned into about thirty years of a regular conversations about poetry that was the basis of our friendship right She often said that her mother was her hero and that she met her own life by the measure of her mother. Jodi, can you tell me what about her mother was heroic to Yvonne Oh sure. Absolutely. Her mother was Francis Kelly later in life known as Judy Bolander and she was a painter educated at the Metropolitan School of art at one. Henry. Dickens traveling fellowship to go to Paris and studied under survivor there. But probably more importantly to van was that her mother had kind of lost childhood her mother's parents had died very young I think our mother was eighteen months old when her mother died and her father died Ten, twelve years later in a shipwreck. So she didn't grow up at the heart of a family. She didn't grow up in the place where she was from with the people she was from. The. Van Calls Hinterland of pain by the time she was a teenager she'd lost most of what defines other people. So, events, Mother's. History was something that he'd van called the difference between the past and history history as the official version and the past as this place silence and shadows where. Stories. Scott over written by national narratives where stories didn't survive and so her mother's life and her grandmother's life became a very rich imaginative territory for van to pit against this more public received version of history and a national literature and the Nationalist Movement. Is She felt one heavily edited the other. Right do you mean the? The life of her mother was exactly the kind of life that would be forgotten in official history writing. Yes and that was edited out of the accounts of history. Member she had a father who was very much part of the public life of of Ireland but her father's father her grandfather was also a prominent civil servant and his father was the master workhouse in clonmel the very dreaded. Irish. Colonial Institution and in fact, her father's family brand the workhouse in club. Mel for about fifty years There was this sort of history of secure in your own family's future by moving up through colonial structures than on the other side was a family whose story disappeared under the surface. So she often put mother worlds against. Patriot worlds. Rights that is interesting. I am I didn't know that that basically that line that she would always draw between history and the past. That that would align ran exactly through her family. Paula I also wanted to ask you about the role that her mother played in. In living an artistic life and in showing her that this was possible. Yes. It was. A direct line off the mother as a working artist in the poem the last discipline it's a marvellous poem I. Often Start My own workshops with because it's essentially a poem about. Finding critical distance from your own work itself in London, it's during the war. Her mother is working in in those conditions at still holding a creative life together that creative life of course, came onto enormous pressure as children arrived as you can imagine and and also being the wife of the diplomat and being expected to ask fulfill that role. She talks about coming as a child to her mother who's been at the Easel all day painting she's demanding she wants her mother's attention and she sees something. At what she calls the usually on observable last discipline and deter mother holding a mirror to the painting she may have finished. So. She's looking in the mirror a hand mirror. She describes a fight clearly and she's looking at the painting that she has perhaps finished or not. So I think Yvonne got that Grace Gift of tanking an image in a poem and making it stand for so much packed image if you like that we as leaders or apprehend irs connection on pack. So the image of the the mother, the creative artist holding off a mirror to her work can stand for so many things. It's also really worth stressing that fences Kelly was off a generation I. Call them are modernist mothers who had that time in Paris who absorbed Traditions of our that were already established on mainland Europe and brought them back to Dublin where they were sometimes laugh dash home you know the So I think that connection into the actual visual at world of her mother was hugely influential in our own methods of image making. Yeah. I wondering if you could read the poem, the last discipline that you just talked about I'd love to. In the evening after a whole day at the Easel, my mother would put down her brush poor Turpentine into a glass jar and walked to the table. Then she took a mirror hand sized anomaly in green and turned her back on the canvas and stood there and looked in it. It was dusk. The sheets were ghostly. The canvas was almost not there in the end. All I could see was her hand closed around the handle. All I can see now is her hand her head her back is turned to watch image. The Mirror shows are washes over her shoulder a room in winter a window with fog outside. A painting she sees is not finished a child her face round with him patients who will return who has returned who only knows now that she has seen the rare and necessary usually on observable last discipline. Thank you. I really liked that lasts discipline. You know the discipline of keeping up an artistic practice. And wondering if she had her own way that may be differed from her mother in trying to uphold her own artistic practice as a young mother and wife well, she has written off this that in those busy busy days with the children were young that maybe even if she couldn't get a poem or get a part of a poem, she could take an image and she could hold staff image through the day and then gathered down and she at least got the image down and often I believe and Jodi mice. This that she might carry an image for years before confined its completion in poetry will Paul and I were talking about this on email just a little bit last week about the poem amber is home on death occur mother because I remember she started with this image of the number. Four lines maybe five lines and it sat there for some years I think it was part of her own grieving process and then over the years I would say, Hey, what happened to that and she'd say, Oh, I must get back to that at some point and then eventually in our own grieving process to come back to it and finish this absolutely beautiful poem called amber. Would, you like to read it politics habit their lives here in front of me? Yes. It's It's one of my favorite poems and of course now. Will always be succeeded with her own going strangely today I I've been shocked as I. Imagine we all are in I've been known really and stay for the first time. I felt to kind of shift at where I think it's often a while before grieving actually happens and I think this is the poem that's. That released the beginning of of grieving process when the numbness whereas off. That's when the grieving begins. I. Amber. It never mattered that there was once of vast grieving trees on their hillsides in their groves weeping aplastic gold dropping through seasons on centuries to the ground onto now. On this fine. September afternoon from which you are absent. I am holding as if my hand could store it an ornament of amber you once gave me. Reasons says this the dead connaught see the living? The living will never see the jed. Again. The clear air we need to find each other in is gone forever yet this resin once collected seeds leaves and even small feathers as a fellow and fell which now in a sunny atmosphere seem as a live assay everwhere as though the past could be present and memory itself of Baltic honey. A chafing at the edges off the scene a showing off of just how much can be kept safe inside a flawed translucence. I want to. Ask You about the way that she would take a marginal experience you know in quotation marks something like maybe the experience of her grandmother and then place that inside capital age history. Can you remember an anecdote or something specific where she was so annoyed that this type stories always left out well, probably the most recent one and the last conversation I had with her was about her palm addiction, which is from the new book, the historians and any, and I were talking the night before she died about how she disliked about history did how history you know? Made People's lives about heroes made people like her grandmother insignificant and race them. The thing that I remember is There's a couple of poems in this new sequence that the source material came out of I've been doing biographical research on event and the different Ireland's that she came out and I thought I had found everything I was going to find on a grandmother was very hard to find things on her grandmother and a new database became available the national library add suddenly up popped in petty sessions. Call him the drop artists in one, thousand, nine, hundred, four article that her grandmother had been a victim of Ood, and she had a grandmother on her other side on her father's side of the family that had been addicted as a child. So she knew that but this grandmother whose life was more of a rumor to her, this was a piece of concrete. Journalistic evidence on what that grandmother's life had been like right and I know you said it. But I still don't quite know how to pronounce the name of the Journal and can you also say what kind of a journal that is or was right? It was the drama argus and lunch dern. Also, it would have been a local and regional newspaper of the time. Yeah. Would you mind reading the? Shur. Eviction. Back from Dublin my grandmother finds eviction notice on her door. Now she is in court renovators. The lawyers are amused. These are the petty sessions this Estrada. This is the bank holiday. Their comments. Fill a column in the newspaper was a notice. Well, Sir was it served at all She a weekly or a monthly tenant. In which one of the plaintiffs rent books and she registered. The case comes to an end is dismissed leaving behind the autumn evening leaving behind the room she entered leaving behind the reason I have always resisted history. A woman leads courtroom tears. A nation is rising to the light. History the second, not the first. Nor does it know the answer as to why? On a winter evening in a modern Ireland I linger over the page, the Drogheda Argus and lynched or journal Nineteen four knowing as I do that my attention has no agency none at all nor my rage. Sure The. Thing that I admire about the Palmas, it's a very journalistic opening that comes just directly from the account of the petty sessions. Just all those details have directly the amusement of the lawyer, the bantering the questions. But then the way the scale just opens out, you know the case comes to an end in and is dismissed, and then there's this huge widening of scale. You leave the autumn evening, you leave the room she entered you leave the reason I have always resisted history right and this opening out of scale into this argument about what is in history what isn't in history so very bitter about history it is you know the bitterness or or I don't know if it's bitterness but lack of hope in the final lines knowing as I do that, my attention has no agency none at all nor my rage, what would you say about those lines? someone on twitter last week said that one of events gifts was she could put her finger on what was missing and then put the frame frame-they're and out of that sense of what was missing frame. A new reinvention of the past in poems like this, she's reinventing the life of her grandmother but in the end, she can go back to this moment seeing the vixen notice for the first time managing could make a home about that, but the palm participates in this. Fictive intervention and in the end. She's questioning what agency that has. Yeah. But may have thought this if they have a different take on this. What really Brought to my mind was that amazing poem which I think is the political poem of the boom time. You know they talk about the Celtic Tiger you have turbo development that nearly had a soul exhausted wrecked the island general kinds of ways. One of the poems I think that really just caught that energy. Laid it on the line was a poem called making money and poor she lived in the suburb of John Jerome it wasn't Middletown. and. They were paper mills and the with the little rivers running down from the mountain that drove the mill wheel and made the paper that was exported to mainland Europe to print money on us, and the poem looks at the lives of the mill girls. And you know working with caustic soda with the rags drudgery going out before. At Lee toxic were making paper making money for other people and I thought it was so direct. So true. So powerful, she says, they do not and she's talking about the mill girls, the workers and they do not and they never will see the small boundaries. All this will buy or the poisoned kingdom with its waterways and splintered locks or the peacock's will walk this paper often down in the winless gardens of a history. No one. Can Stop happening now, now, the Crimson and indigo features of the prince who have stare out from the surfaces they have made on the ruin of Europe. He kind of see from the surface of a wealth he kind of keep if you can keep your composure in the face of this final proof that the past is not made out of time out of memory of irony is also a crime we cannot admit and will not tone. I mean that is our most explicit and foreshadows the work that will come in the historians that the past is. These middle girls who gave their lives to making money for other people there they're another version of the lace makers who lost their sight to push a frill at the risks are. So you know that sharp vision of history, it really drove our believe you know. That is an interesting story. I think to go back to the day. The Field Day and Theology of writing was published in Nineteen ninety-one, which was advertised as quote, the most complete collection of Irish writing ever assembled. Only Yeah. But there were some emissions jody do you WanNa tell the story Sure I can certainly tell my version of it I. mean the field project was a very valuable but very flawed project. They were only the three women poets included in the contemporary poetry section. Any ban really lead that wing of the charge against that ended up canonizing one of the teams about madness she just had courage to burn. She had a great deal intellectual competence. She knew she was the person. Who had the confidence in your billing to stand up and make her voice heard and point out the injustices of it and I think she'd been waiting for the right opportunity to make a big statement on the necessity for change and help bring some of that change. Yeah because she organized a conference around this and Thalji rights now there was a, Oh, you may. Is. There she it. The response wasn't treated. Conference was once-off again. To Public Public converstation and I think. That's what. I remember. The industries they were invited and some of them turned up on to answer the charges and just was furious some you know mad kind of justifications when I remember well-stocked because the guy, the editor was a feminist himself, he fell to channeling families when images selections was just happened that they weren't women it was no big deal. He was feminist himself in Almaty everyone was falling around laughing and of course them. Some of them stepped off I mean I remember parents Brown as saying that he was just he had been just blind. We should have seen when there was no women on the editorial, we should have realized. What they eat. And Dot the interesting thing talking to boaters whilst 'cause I'm saying, oh they were so blind she said, no, it wasn't blindness will staff must stay just couldn't hear the voices of women may we really need to bear that in mind at the moment where this is similar conversation happening around diversity with the new Irish and even of course, was very much part of raising awareness around this issue of diversity who gets to ride the poem now, who gets to speak and WHO GETS HEARD Right. Well I have one last question for both of you What is something that you? Cherish knowing that. Readers of her poems will never know about or readers of her as. Jody they're probably so many doty there are so many I mean. The thing that so many people have commented on in the last two weaker two or three cents her death at lost track is. She. Just had this absolutely wonderful humor. She was so funny I looked over to our weekly conversations as much for the laughter as fourth. Research about poetry which I deeply valued. She was just hilarious. She was very, very funny. Toby will gave up tribute last night to event where he talked about her closed office door at Stanford the door where they would enter and come out laughing man. and. That's a very apt match. The she was great fun. I mean she loved stories about other poets and she especially loved to hear of poem positives and you know this deflation of pomposity was one of our really great gifts. And she didn't mind if you punctured her own. Very. She didn't. Yeah. Yeah. But on a more kind of serious snows, really I my own em send such a very, very low point in my life there'd been a family suicide I had published a collection that Gosh. Really Weird responses on including a really terribly from few you know am in was along the lines that I had a status sized the sufferings of poor. And this particular review or was being congratulated for having taken me down a peg or two. I just got a call just out of the blue from Avon. Saying don't worry Paul the poor don't mind. Perfect? I mean the support she gave to so many poets, men and women I mean, we can concentrate on on the sports gift women but I know say my own partner I know from that generation of poets who came after her man and women and you know it will it was a nourishment. She was a nourishment for all of us. She was very much aware of herself as helping. Look younger writers and make a better environment which would give them more freedom to move, and of course, at Stanford, she influenced a whole generation and the her help with their work and workshop with their careers is just sort of legendary there. There is a lovely poem I can't remember the name of which showed you much. Refresh my memory you know the one where she sees. A. Woman was our head bowed her hair voucher. Writing. They're thinking of Is it still to say where she's still the she imagined a young writer coming to her work, right? Yes but. I think she had really strong sense of how she had inscribed herself into our tradition and that young woman looking up now. From that solitary work by nice shoes they're big. Is it still. Is it still the young woman who climbs the stairs close a child's door who goes to her table in a room at the back of a house. The same unleaded corridor the same night air over the wheel Barrows of rain tanks. The same inky sky and pin bright stars. You can see nothing her but her head bent over the page her hand moving. Moving again. And her hair. I wrote liked that once. But this is different. This time when she looks up, I will be there. Yvonne. Boland's was the author of more than ten poetry collections including her breakthrough book night feed in one thousand, nine hundred to outside history in nineteen ninety in a time of violence in nineteen, Ninety Four for which she received the land and award. Against Love Poetry in two thousand one. And domestic violence in two thousand seven She also wrote to Sas Dick Memoirs object lessons the life of the woman in the poet in our time. And a journey with two maps becoming a woman poet for which she won a pen award. Her collection the historians will be published posthumously by W W Norton in the fall. Paula Mehan is an award-winning poet and playwright who has published more than eight collections of poetry. Her selected poems as if by magic is in the works and will come soon from dealers press Dublin. Jody Allen Randolph is a scholar specialized in twentieth century and contemporary is an anglophone poetry. Together Paula Mehan and Jody Allen Randolph edited a collection of Yvonne Boland's poems and pictures just celebrate her seventieth birthday titled a Poets Dublin. To find out more on Yvonne Boland, check out the poetry foundation website. The music in this episode is by Todd Seko's Foos I'm another groups and this was poetry off the shelf. Thank you for listening.

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"This is episode number three hundred and twenty nine and said I we're talking about Microsoft ads previously known as being ads ads and why you should be utilizing this advertising if you're having any success with Google Edwards special guest is Yvonne manner and that into coming up in just a minute planning to have a successful wedding and portrait photography Business Join Injury is he interviews successful. Oh photographers and business experts track your success. Welcome to the photo bees exposed podcast with your host Andrea Helmich Sir Andrew Chief from impact images and welcome to this episode of the podcast. If the name Yvonne Manner Rings Bill Particularly Particularly if you've been listening to the podcast for any length of time it's because Yvonne featured in episode three hundred and six of the podcast where he took us through in step by. I step detail on how to set up your very first Google Edwards campaign. Today's episode is a different form of that pay per click advertising utilizing being or Microsoft ads. It's a short and straight to the point episode and we're GonNa jump into that. In just a second before we get started. I usually do share a little bit about me the and my wake which is mainly consumed by third party marketing putting together content for that course for members for you which would be available to everyone soon in in addition to that. I had to make a dental appointment with a dental surgeon specialist to get on have something chick there in my male obviously uh-huh and the reason I bring that up is because it is relevant to us and photography businesses and the way we do things because what happened. He's I rang to make this appointment after getting a referral from my dentist my regular dentist and I knew that I had to go in to have a biopsy done on a little piece of my gum so rank to make the appointment but I was told I couldn't begin to have the biopsy. Dan I had to booking for consultation I which is gonNa cost one hundred produtos which is fine and then I had to make an appointment for the biopsy after that initial consultation now I was. I was a little bit annoyed at the in fact I had to pay twice but I won't hide that fact so it was one hundred dollars for the initial appointment the consultation and then two hundred fifty dollars to have these barbs done which is happening this afternoon soon because I went in the head my consult because I couldn't talk my way out of it on happy about was in addition to having to pay twice all that aside said to the receptionist look at mind paying twice but instead of me coming back twice for two separate appointments taking two separate chunks of my day off to come out here for these appointments cannot just combine the two no. That's not how we do things. I was told at the surgery by the receptionist explain that unhappy is nice away as I could and I thought I thought there was some chance that I could sway her. Change Change mine allow me to book and have that double appointment only one hit after all. They weren't going to be losing anything in regards to income happy to pay twice. She said No. That's not the way we do things here and the option that she gave me was. Would you like to keep this appointment or would you like to go elsewhere and it was as simple as that I had had you could say I had no choice about having other choice. I could have canceled gone back to my dentist. Ask for referral to another also which who knows if the reason one newer. I live so I said No. No the the appointment as it is. What has this got to do with you and your photography business everything everything because because I hear and see from other photographers when they want to implement something they hear on the podcast from an view when they want to try something when they wanna do something different different to what they've been doing in the past last so worried about what they clients might think twice start second-guessing how the client react what the the client will say were there with are likely not but the thing is these days and these are our businesses. We get to make the rules. That's why we in business for ourselves pills so if you want to do pre consultation in person. That's the way you want to run your business. Even though no other photographer in your local area is doing the same thing that is totally fine. You can implement that and say that is just the way you do things and yes. It will be a little bit scary when you go to introduce something new particularly if it's out of the norm home what you think is out of the norm but if you can see that this may have a positive influence on the way your business works whether that's going to get you better clients. It's going to help you qualify your leads. If it's going to see you have a better experience at the shoots or have your clients experience a much better time with shoots or see you ultimately with better sales than I say go for it. Implement your ideas and explain to your clients when they ask well when when I suggest that that's not the way I did it with my last photographer. You can say that's fine. This is the way we do it at my studio. This is how we get the most success. You could have a reason or reasons why you do that. Y which I didn't get from my oral surgeon which is a little bit unhappy about. I think we can do it more tactfully than the why aural surgeon receptionist handled me but the point is really. It's after talking business. We can run it the way we want to do it. That's the whole point of being in business for ourselves so we can implement try things adept at businesses to suit us to suit their lifestyle and to give the best possible experience for the clients and just a quick side note when I did going from my initial consultation which was last Friday. I did apologize to the receptionist. If if I was at all route I was sure there's going to be a black mark against my name funnily enough. She didn't even remember the conversation and she said No. It's totally fine didn't care at Ooh didn't have any effect whatsoever and there I was from my first appointment and now going in for my second this afternoon because that's the way they do things Alyssa's in last week's episode I interviewed Bethel Knife Hyphen the wedding celebrant slash business coach and we talked all about ghosting or being ghosted and how to avoid that if you've got no idea what I'm talking about ghosting in is when a potential client gets in touch with you. It sounds like your perfect client. You count white to work with them. You're excited they send excited sided you reply to their message of the voice mile or the SMS and you hear nothing they've gone. They've disappeared so you've been ghosted if that's happened to you and you want to know how to avoid it get back and listen to that episode with. Bethel Nathan from last week. photo. Biz exposed interviews with photographers to help you build a better photography business already. We're going to jump into this interview with evonne manner talk all about Microsoft or being ads. If you are hearing this announcement though it does mean you're listening to the the free version of the podcast and that means you're going to hear the first half of the Yvonne die but I do save the second half of the interview dive a little bit deeper into some of the concepts that he shares in the first half. I save that for premium members. Only that happens every single week in addition to having member only episodes access assists the members facebook group help getting into moss among groups. There's so much more that goes into the premium membership and purely the extra content content from h interview gifts so if you'd like to hear the full interview today with Yvonne or you want to get access to all the other things that go along with the premium membership. You can try to allow for as little as one dollar. That sounds interesting to you head over to photo BS x dot com for slash. Try sign up there for one dollar see if the premium membership is good for you. If you love what you're hearing. If you love what you're getting if you sing real improvement in your photography business as a result of a membership which is the the whole reason for it then stick around with all the other premium members and let's work together to help grow your business even faster than you would without that membership membership photo bs x dot com forward slash try. If you WANNA check out that one dollars trial membership awesome useless it's time for Andrew Special Guest Yvonne Man of online mocking essentials was interviewed episode three hundred and six of the podcast where he he died deep into a step by step tutorial on how to set up your first Google ad words campaign and I originally discovered Yvonne on Youtube when doing some research for facebook ads. I I love these energy. He's knowledge in the why he broke down complicated strategies in easy to understand step by step instructions. He also explained why he was suggesting to do the things he was tasting which I loved as wrapping up our last interview Yvonne US half is a doing with advertising being and my reply was eighty-one one using being at all and he went on to tell me that being is really underappreciated. It's a resource that can also be super profitable and functions ninety nine percent lock Google and that's why I asked her having back on the podcast and I'm happy to have him with us now. evonne welcome back a Andrew. Thank you so much for having me. It's a pleasure Asia awesome cool being ads. I mean is anyone even losing being so they actually lea- named their brand to Microsoft anchor software. That's now as part of their whole trumping Google at the thing I guess so it's Microsoft Dad's now but began still I guess actually yeah a lot of people are saying since being is it only takes up about ten percent of the search engine market space for saying what's oil. There's no point marketing here and and you know what with everyone saying that you can imagine how much potentially you have to dominate that ten cent right so I have campaigns that are performing just as well as on Google and I have campaigns here that are performing well that are not performing on Google so yes it's definitely worth it and and if you have a Google ads campaign you're just one button away from literally importing everything from Google into bait and having it automatically set up for you. I'll hang on safe. I have ads already set up and running on Google. I can just import those directly into Microsoft ads yeah so they have that capability. Where you just US import you just log into your Google ads account through Microsoft and Blah. You have all your ads automatically places. Does that mean all the the settings are all the terminology. It's all going to be exactly the same yes sold. There may be a thing or two that you know that there will be an inconsistency in and he will be let know what that is so you can come in and and adjusted like if a city or something for example isn't supported in Microsoft it will let you know and you could go in and then select the different city or select radius targeting stuff like archives are but majority of it. Yes it will be set an set up for you. Okay you mentioned there that it might be easy for us to dominate that ten percent of the people that ten percent of that advertising space if so many less people using being but with photographers purpose and the photographer talking to you right now. Is that a concern that the search traffic for our businesses. What's more anyway no. I don't think so oh I think it's always worth a try especially. If you already have a google account it's not going to cost you anything to simply import the campaign and just give it a shot and see because the way this works is just like with Google. You pay per click so if you don't get any impressions and you don't get clicks than you don't pay anything for it but it's worth try to we actually pay for impressions or do we only pay for clicks yeah so you only pay per click here with. Microsoft and that's assignment Google Michael Edwards yes although with Google ads they do have different branches like Youtube Baz or or specific display ads and stuff like that so for example for some youtubers the to Baz. You could pay per every thousand views but that's not the case here. Microsoft only paying per click like you said. It's worth a try for sure yeah so I would expect on. I don't know if this is true but I would expect. It's going to be cheap to advertise on being because so much traffic there is that right yes the whole that's what a lot of people say and I guess at some point that was the case but that would depend on your niche so for example I promoted travel make money online and skincare on both Google and bing and I've noticed that were Mike. Stuff and I noticed that my cost click actually higher on Microsoft. That doesn't mean you still can't prophet right because you are targeting a completely different audience that sources as being rather than Google but it would depend on on your knees so sometimes the is actually higher in Microsoft and I guess that also stems from the fact that more time has passed and as more people are diving in and using Microsoft Hi Christine DADS that drives the bids as well wrought okay. He's been getting you know you said ten percent. Is that a true number or is that a true percentage That's a rough percentage based on some studies data that was conducted in two thousand eighteen. They were saying that Google dominates seventy five five percent of the search engines like Yahoo. AOL They dominate fifteen or so and being is around ten percent okay even though they called Walker soft ads is still the platform is all being becoming Microsoft yes so you would still go to being dot com to do the actual searches but you do have the option though when you run campaigns here and actually this is something cool to you have the option to not only target being a big platform but you can also reach out to a well. Yahoo and other search platforms so basically if you promote on Google and Microsoft Dad's what's your promoting everywhere. I is that because Microsoft owns all these other platforms yeah either that or their partners right okay and we're not going to dive deep into who like step by step instruction sitting ads like we did with Google interviewed because you have to torreon exactly how to do that die you yes. Yes I have a youtube channel and I have have a specific Google ads and a Microsoft's playlist which shows you how to do everything step by step okay. What's the name of the Youtube channels of at least they can go the to find these details yet. It's online online marketing essentials with Yvonne Banner. Okay so all had links to those in the show notes specific cheaters as well but in general terms you said it's it's a simple as importing the same ads add settings Google ads so are you saying what we should all do. I advertise on Google first and then. GPA duplicate what we're doing on Microsoft ads yeah so. I think if you don't have too much time on your hands like me. WHO's an affiliate and that's all I do for living is I run ADS. I would put my priority on Google ads for now and then if you see some success war you just want to try DB. GB even if you're not seeing as much success on Google and you want to see Microsoft as we'll get better you can just import the campaign but yes I would highly suggest the first thing you should try glass just because so many more impressions you'll get X. from there like that makes sense. If you listen to this interview don't go on trial. Microsoft adversary in Google import those settings when we go to import. Is it as simple as like setting up Google and Microsoft can't and then go from there yeah so the exact exact same thing if you've mastered glads especially their first editor so so they've done some updates and now they're editor looks different but if you were or promoting on Google ads say a year ago when they're editor look different. VAT editor looks exactly the same Microsoft ads editor right now so if you're used to that you will. We'll see pretty much no changes as her face. I K- auditors go to bing DOT COM and then sign up for an account and then I can guide a to Microsoft ads yes so I mean you can even type this up on Google so on Google typed in create a Microsoft ads account or maybe an increase being an account and you should be able to just follow the steps there and create an account perfect okay. Let's go into some general like pay per blake appetizing things that we didn't really talk about last time. One of the big questions that were coming up inside the members grew following into last time was how much we should be spending will pay for these clicks. Is there value so that would depend really on your nation on your market so if you're seeing that you're you're just not getting enough impressions enough clicks you can definitely increase the cost per click but that would also depend on the lifetime value of your customer. So how much which is your lead worth to how much every customer worth to you so I have products right pay five cents four and I have products a one dollar brick for end. Both of them are still profitable because they are not the same products so I can profit as much from five cent click as they would from a one dollar because of the different different funnels in the different artists to a wedding photographer and let's say why average spend from Klein is three thousand dollars. Yes I still say photographers complaining that they pay three dollars a click but that could be super cheek if their booking a three thousand dollar waiting. That's what you're saying. Correct yeah yeah exactly. It's all about your funnel and how you follow up with your clients whether you answer all their questions whether you're there for support basically the nurturing of the lead of the person that calls you first strike because they're not customers at first date. I call even tried to put appointment and try to find out more about you or I don't know what your exact processes is like. Maybe everyone's is different but yeah it's about how much each lead each coal is worth to you so you would have to figure that out not even a much each sales worth how much each colour each email worth to you and then you can do the math from there okay so let's say my average wedding photography packages three thousand dollars but I'm not tight ten. Ken Phone Calls To book one wedding run then. I've got to look at how many clicks I get on my add to get ten phone calls. Is that the math. We're talking about exactly exactly exactly. Ah Yes yes so if it takes you example ten leads for one sale and each sale is three hundred dollars you would say okay. We'll each lead than it's roughly three hundred dollars so if each lead has roughly three hundred dollars then all of a sudden. Maybe you can't afford three dollars per. Click because now as long as you get or as long as you spend less than one hundred dollars or each lead. You should be okay. You should be in the profit okay. I guess that's more sorry for digital products. That photographer would have to look at how much they wanNA. Prophet Prophet Prophet is not how much they're charging gone all right. That's going to be on a sliding scale depending whether you're shooting portraits or weddings or how how much average clients worth is there an easy way to measure or know that the person who clicked my at my Microsoft atom on Google the Diana. The person ended up booking me. How do I know that the same person yes oh just like in Google ads. There is conversion tracking with Microsoft dense so what you do. Is You basically install. Microsoft ads conversion pixel onto your site and that will be able to tell you so for example. If you have an email email submission form saying on us you can put the Pixel on the page after that form and so when someone fills that form and goes to the next page the big little fire and you'll see which exact keyword which at which age group yes there's even age group demographics in Microsoft ads just in Google where you can see which one generally the commercials and then you can optimize based on that information okay so he's there why I'm I'm not trying to catch you out here but I'm just curious. Is there a way that let's say someone clicked on my Microsoft Obama Google ad and they go to my website. They like what they say and actually pick up the phone or they click the email. Lincoln said easy. My contact form is any way to measure that they came from Google. Microsoft ads well yeah I mean so and in Microsoft with these pixels you will see the conversions you will see how many people call you or email you have to do that. I guess we're missing the mark womanizer no no nicer. I got totally get it like how Pixel works. If someone feels that my contact form they clicked send and go to a thank you page then if I got to that thank you page on neither being pixels and I can measure that that was a true lead. That's come from that ad what if they don't go to my contact form they just click on the link accents me directly to to the opens up the Emma Platform and they sent me an email old. I pick up the phone and call me. Is there any way to measure will still cold targeting and coal forwarding where Microsoft ads will replace your phone number number with their phone number and so when someone calls the Microsoft ads full number that will work the same way as conversion as a pixel. I think what I'm concerned about and another listener has these concern too is someone sees my add one of the search engines they click on go to my website and then there's no more interaction on the website. They grabbed my ball finalists cell phone and call me so I can't really measure that person know they've come from a paper advertising campaign so when you say you don't know do you mean by looking at the Microsoft Platform. Well enough had the click aac civilized. I get ten phone calls in a week. Okay about wedding photography. The listen and I wanNA know did that person originate from one of my ads or did I just shop Seo. How do I know that. Is there any white tonight for sure. I'm guessing they're reasons. Oh I see they came from an ad yeah. No no you can't can't really tell that would just be kind of a manual process so you would just go into your Microsoft ads and then you see how many versions you get so suppose you see two conversions so then you know that the the two out of eight conversions came from the ads. Rakai are all I can really measure then is that in this case if done actually go through contact forms that they've actually someone in many people have clicked on my ad and going to my website yes yes if there is no conversion that you will see the click and you won't really know what else that person did if they didn't call you or to the email for Keiko so really what we need to do is make sure we have a website. That's optimized as well. I mean the website has has to be producing leads for us to send you know pay traffic to the website. That's the right way to price and so what I'm asking is. There's no use running hyper take ads unless we already have a website that he's converting. Yes yes I would say so. That'll make it much easier and actually sometimes some of the clients ends at I work with. I suggest them to make a few changes to their website. Because if you're promoting on Google or Microsoft DADS you have to be pretty aggressive in terms of making yourself stand out so you have to make sure that your ad copy just your landing page matches the key words and all that and there's the relevance between everything anything from the people's searching in whatever they're looking for to actually landing on your age you say I think I understand what you're saying. So what do you mean by Bay more progressive so if you aren't running any ads at all and you just have our website trying to rank. Seo Sometimes you see headlines that are in the workplace or sometimes. You don't see a call to action and that's okay for you because you know you're getting free traffic right. It's fine if people aren't clicking on your links calling you. That's totally fine as well. It's free traffic now. If you're running paid ads you need to see some results so so you're paying to cease civic results so you have to make sure that for example one your call to action is like on the very first part of the page that people don't have to scroll roll down to see your call to action you have words accompanying it right like all now to book your free consultation or whatever it is you have a clear headline headline which matches your ad so you can't have a headline anymore that says just your name for example your name and you would need to how a headline that matches your ad so if you're doing on a wedding photography and in your added says wedding photography. You have to make sure that wedding photography is the first thing people see on your landing page not make them deduce based on your pictures or when they scroll down but the very first thing people see as to be winning photography. That's let's see you're at okay so we have that continuity premium members of photo exposed based Photography Business Klis tragedies from every guest on your tutorials. Do you have like step by step on how to do this in regards to Google ads and Microsoft ads yeah so I have to where I start from the very beginning from just creating your very first campaign and you just watched launch behind my shoulder. I just share my screen with you and you see it. All live as I create account being greed different ads. Add keywords create split test degree in all that stuff so everything you need to get started okay. I'm going to get the links for those exact. She toils the guy with the show today and then so you've got those same oriels for book Google and from Microsoft. Yes yes exactly and I keep updating and adding new stuff perfect. I can I think about the future. Where do you see pay per. Click advertising housing going and being a Microsoft particularly. Is it going to overtake Google one day. I honestly I don't I don't think so Google Google is working hard to keep its place in the market. I can see that from all the updates daily update daily split testing. I mean every time you log into Google ads. Every time you log in your interface. We'll look at tiny different. I'm talking about the very top parts of your interface. When you log in it looks a tad a bit different every time you log in and that's because they're just split testing colossally working towards yeah just like facebook ads also by the way these does the same thing you know constantly split testing changing their layout just to test a Google's constantly rolling out with new updates new changes being does the same but not as definitely not fast I in. DC Pay per click advertising. You know being here for long term like it's not going away. Is it no no yeah. I don't see a reason for it to go away on the country. I think it's going to go out because of the shift to new technology like people are more and more on their iphones on their computers humor's that home and doing all that stuff so I see an increase actually in the densest okay. Do you say that cost coming down for us the appetizer or going up going up unfortunately always going up getting now exactly Yvonne. This has been great my vein fantastic see again. I'm with the listener may not know particularly in our premium. Member is just how helpful you were and have been inside the members facebook group. You got hammered with questions. It's other other group and United States champion. He came back and answered and and help every once I thank you so much of course thank you for having me a pleasure might it's my pleasure to it really is and see seasons something. I know a lot about so good to have an expert on I'll add links to anywhere and everywhere loosening gun chase up and learn more from you talked a lot about your youtube. Channel also have a blog or website yes yes. I have a blog where I matched. Basically what might youtube channel says but it's a marketing essentials dot com fantastic all had links to that is well. I thank you event again. Thank you so much. It's been a real pleasure. Thank you Andrew Really Nice in here. I hope you enjoy that interview with van manner as much as I did Yvonne. If you're listening thank you again for coming back for even suggesting the idea of being and Microsoft pads or didn't even know they were worth trialing a little and how easy they are to sit up. If you already have a Google Edward Campaign so again again my thank you so much. I really do appreciate you coming on the share everything that you did for you the listener. PD Get as much from event as I did. Let me know if you have any inclination of implementing Microsoft ads. 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Alzheimer's In Color

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Alzheimer's In Color

"Hello. So this is my life. Every week I have skype call into my mom's nursing home in the Bronx Sign Mommy Yvonne bomb. E. How Each call starts more or less the same I reintroduce myself to my mother. I remind her that. This is her daughter Yvonne speaking how you feeling. More Margot. My GITA. Do Nita. My younger daughter Margot is on this call and we are trying to get my mom to recognize us. She's got Alzheimer's Disease and it's been hell and covid nineteen has made it worse. The last time I saw her in person was in March, she knew who I was. Then it was a week before the coronavirus shutdown in New York City where she lives. We have confirmation that an individual our best. Offensive her being diagnosed with cold bit nineteen, and now I get endless. Robo calls telling me that the virus is in her nursing home people are dying there. I know I am losing her every second of every day if Kobe doesn't take. Alzheimer's will while we understand the inconvenience, this may call in this that we restrict businesses. To reduce the spread this pilots and it sucks. The skype calls are hard. She is distant unfocused. She can barely speak a few words and they really makes sense. I was told to use music to retur. She loves Latin music she loved to dance, and so I try. My Mom's name is Ramona. Laddy or Nita Martha Larry or Ramona Novelli Motor hemos San Lady if I WANNA teaser. Nova. Nova. We we know Galea. Very ugly name used to tell me what I was a kid. You hated your middle name, she's eighty seven. And it's been four years now since she was diagnosed. Four years of the lonely journey which in the end I walk alone because my mom has no idea what day it is what year it is how old she is or where she is you know. You promise me. You were never gonNA. Forget me look you know forgetting me thanks a lot. From food media, it's Latino USA I'm Donald Parson and today Alzheimer's in. Color. For many aging Latinos Latinos and African Americans. Alzheimer's disease has become one of the leading health crises access to healthcare preexisting conditions. The quality of institutions at help aging people of color all of these disparities become amplified by diagnosis of Alzheimer's. As, more people live longer. The challenges around Alzheimer's keep growing experts predict that by twenty sixty, there could be in over eight hundred percent growth of Latinos with this incurable degenerative form of dementia. For Journalists Yvonne Latino this story is personal her mother and I'm WanNa he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's in twenty-six teen. Yvonne has been documenting her mother's illness for the past four years. And brings us this intimate portrait of her mom's life before and after Alzheimer's. Hello all last. I love my mom I really really do. I can't say I have understood her or the decision she's made. I can't say she understood me either I can't say we belong on a Latin American experience hallmark card or that are mother daughter Bond is unique. She pissed me off and could be a pain in the ASS. I know she would say that about me to you know the team that likes to wear black and lock yourself in her messy room with her headphones on all the time that was me. We had some epic battles for sure. In some ways. I think we were the same person living different extremes. Each wanting so much more than what is expected of women like us. My mom face dirt poor poverty in the Dominican Republic where she was born she joined the wave of immigration to the US in nineteen and she surpassed every challenge thrown her way. I'm not ashamed to say desperate to connect with her to understand her story and make it mine. Until the World Ramona laddy my mom matters. Said I'm on my loudly. That was just four years ago. To. My. Thing. This was right after her diagnosis on we could still talk to each other and we were going on endless doctors visits looking for some hope a treatment away to slow the disease down. Scandal bed leeann schedules of. fave to society the. Since my mother said, those words, her life went on a rapid decline. The threat that holds us together gets thinner the conversations more difficult. And my profound sadness over losing her harder to manage my first impressions were that she She was able to propel her wheelchair with her feet Nodar hands these days my lifeline is to staff at the Beth Abraham nursing home in the bronx where my mom lives. This is her nurse Practitioner Iris Nagin. She has supported me on countless occasions. I started working with my mom in January of two, thousand and nineteen. She seemed to communicate a little better in Spanish than English, the impoverishment of speech and often the inability to walk. Are Connected. To having, had dementia, for? Awhile. On. The. Alzheimer's is a brain disease. It slowly destroys your memories, your ability to think speak walk talk. Even the simplest tasks become impossible. It's a wicked form of dementia and it will slowly kill you. The type of Alzheimer's my mom has not genetic, but my odds of getting the disease or slightly higher because she has it. Visiting, my mom is always hard and when I don't see her I worry and feel guilty. I don't even know if my skype calls help her at all at this point I guess really is one of the things that happens with dimensions. The world gets very very small and I was tells me that these visits and calls are hard on my mother as well. And I think when people come from the outside world, the they bring with them expectations. And I think the expectations can be hard on. On someone who has advanced dementia. But that has been the challenge of the disease. Understanding it and holding onto Ramona laddy. I, find myself thinking about where she came from who she was her story pre Alzheimer's. Because timers is not who she is, it's not her story. It's just how her story ends. My mom dropped out of school in the eighth grade to take care of her little brother. So her mom could work her father died when she was twelve, she barely knew him. In the late nineteen forties. And came to New York. City. It was the first wave of Dominican Immigration Ando. Many were fleeing the brutal dictator Rafael through he jaw. Picturesque. Trujillo city capital of the Dominican Republic turns out for the inauguration of president for whom the city is named. General Trujillo is the strong man of the republic. Many were just looking for work and an escape from poverty. My then teen mom was left to take care of everything at home, which now included her aunt children but then `immigration has brought in many people from the Caribbean area most of the immigrant went into the factories and found their homes in the tenements of America's growing city. In one thousand, nine, hundred, fifty, she got a chance to come to New York. City she was nineteen and she got a job in a pocket book factory and went to beauty school. And such a New York City story she met Albert my dad in a beauty parlor in Spanish Harlem run by Cuban woman who was married to a Jamaican man and as a result had Jamaican customers which included my grandmother. My. Dad went to pick her up one day saw my mom and the beauty parlour and it was love for sight even though she spoke no. English and he spoke no Spanish. Are you okay hold on a minute. Between yourself and others. So I WANNA start a few years into my mom's Journey York City and to do that I reached out to Grace Lawrence or on grace who has been very close to my mom for over sixty years. We became best friends on grace's ninety, four lives in Queens and her memory unlike my mom's is sharp as a tack. Okay. Might as well say, okay. When you're my age scenes happens up them but I'm okay. With that. She told me that she met my mom in the late nineteen fifties through my dad. Well, I know that he became very close and he wanted to meet. His girlfriend, his girlfriend at that time respond. So he didn't say that much about her except that she was Spanish. That's what they called Latinos back then. Spanish. And, the coolest that didn't involve me at all when you first met my mother, what did you? What did you think about like your mother loves to dance? She was so pretty and vivacious. Allah. Album. And that's how I remember her dancing with us in the kitchen to discuss Salsa Mangueira. Everything was hit hit tips didn't matter the music. She really was a beautiful young lady. And of course, you know you, your mother was very stylish. She's always stylish. Greece's parents were from Barbados and immigrants. So uncle about the prejudice that existed between some Caribbean blacks towards Latinos, which my mom walked right into by loving my dad Albert's mother was Jamaican and she was embarrassed. Lady Very PLA and unfortunately. She did not want to come to the wedding because I was Spanish. So what was happening was this? My grandmother was raised by a well off family in Jamaica, and although she was a maid in New York she felt her son was too good for my mom she was very disappointed wrenches. She, didn't come into the wins. But that did not stop the wedding. Was the matron of honor that will and Tom and your follow kissed his wife she was so proud of her but my grandmother Nanna did not accept the marriage Nanna was dark skinned woman who would not accept the light skinned Latina in family. My Mom came from the Dominican Republic a country with extremely negative attitudes towards blacks skin but she didn't care that my father was black. The story on my father's side of the family was different. My mom was Spanish. And that was enough to be rejected. Mona. Really worked A relationship with her mother in law and this is something I really admire about my mother she did not give up. Picture this my mom lives on one hundred, eight street near Central Park West, and my grandmother was just about six blocks away. My father would visit Nanna every week without my mom. So she worked on being the best version of herself to figure this out loud. She worked on her English. She worked on being a good wife and she had hope no matter how much she was ignored in rejected. But it took the birth of my older sister Margie nineteen sixty to finally warm my grandmother's heart. On my neck skype call to my mother, I try to bring up our old. Fifteen with one hundred, H, a member one, hundred and Eighth Street. Maybe that address the names of her family we trigger a memory margie. Remember Margie. Margie but I came up empty. mytalk was on grace in April. Left me wanting more. The MOM I have had for years. Now is a shadow of who she was and I want that mother back so badly. Coming up on Latino USA she was seeing this boy. In her apartment this evil boy and at one point it got so bad that she was hiding knives that she could stab boy. Stay with US nothing. Yes. This message comes from NPR sponsor better. Help the online counselling service dedicated to connecting you with a licensed counselor to help you overcome whatever stands in the way of your happiness, fill out a questionnaire and get mashed with a professional tailored to your needs and if you aren't satisfied with your counselor, you can request a new one at any time free of charge visit better help dot com slash Latino to get ten percent off your first month get the help you deserve with better help. Hey we're back and before the break journalist Yvonne Latte, he had introduced us to her mother's world and what it's like to have advanced Alzheimer's disease in the middle of a covid nineteen crisis, we return now to Yvonne's intimate portrait of her life with. And just warning there's some offensive language in this part of this story. In mid April about a month after the covert lockdown started in new. York I recruited Nola my oldest daughter to help me dig do some old photos I keep in a big plastic ben in our home in Philadelphia. I took these photos that if my mom's photo albums when they cleaned out her apartment after she was placed in the nursing home. The day. I. Pack Them Three Years Ago I was crying confused and disappointed in myself for not being able to slow down the inevitable. I have not looked at the photos since notices this is my mom's wedding picture. Listen, this one was really pretty knowle's twenty-one and studies acting and directing at nyu were sitting on an old. Yellow Sofa in the basement and the first photo we pull out his eleven by fourteen black and white wedding picture. Do you think of redress I? Love her dress smell of all the lace. In the photo my mom is wearing a beautiful white lace dress and in her arms, a bouquet of white flowers. My Dad is in a dark suit behind her holding her. She has a slight smile on her face. She's twenty six and she looks almost regal and ready for what's next he looks like you. Yeah. Do you see yourself in her if it is always like the like Nola looking like my mom has always given me comfort? Nolan, my mom were always close. She was her Nolita, her oldest grandchild and she loved to Cook Dominican Food for her and buy her clothes. But these photos revealing up Alita Nola had never seen. Freely, what's this one? NOLA pulls out a black and white photo booth image of my mom taken in the early nineteen fifties. That's when she first came to this country Alex. so good in this fixture, she's looking away from the camera in a playful way she's wearing hoop earrings and dark lipstick. The photo seems timeless. Work she's like working eight. Can I have this? Yeah. I really like this picture she looks like Eunice Really Yeah. She looks like you when people tell me I look like my mom I don't believe it God when accomplish it looks. We are different colors. She's light skinned and I'm dark skinned. I think she's way prettier than me. She's petite while I'm five eight and when I was growing up, there was this idea that the lightest skinned you are the prettier I tried to explain this to Nola and I was in light skinned that I wasn't even my mother's complexion or more Jews complexion I was darker than my dad. And my darker skin lead to bullying I was called ugly and mocked. The first time I was called a nigger I was in third grade and it was by light skinned Latino classmates. We were you know the ugly ones. And there was nothing I could do to change the color of my skin my mom indirectly being forced to negatively by constantly commenting on my hair ENFORC- me into painful smaller shoes because she didn't want me to have big feet. Although she was rejected by my grandmother for being Spanish, she held some form of internalized racism which was directed at me and my hair. Black hair is bad straight. Harry's good. You know the hair had to be relaxed. Pressed couldn't sweat everything had to be about my appearance and I was a Tomboy a wanted to play sports and wanted to run around my hair didn't really go natural until you were born and when you were born and she saw you one of the first thing she said to me was, how well does she have to be before? We can straighten her hair that was the game changer I never relaxed my hair again and my mom had to live with both my daughters curls. Growing up with my mom could be frustrating. There were a lot of extremes I grew up on one hundred, eight street between Manhattan. Avenue and Central Park West. It was rough back then and my mom would not let us out of the House. My outside space was the fire escape. I wanted to share with that was like with my daughter, Nola Murders and people got raped and a lot of robberies. One of my early memories is one afternoon when my mom went shopping and came home with a red. Welt across her face. She had been robbed she had a man's handprint on her face because he slapped her so hard when he robbed her. And she was crying and she's really upset and she called my dad, this was not a one off. My Mom was robbed the lot. But the next week and we'll they got her shopping cart out again and she went right back to the grocery store. I admired her for it, but he made me angry. The neighborhood was filled with abandoned buildings and so much neglect. Our building was abandoned by the landlord when I was a kid and the city took it over. Were set aimed at forcing us to move. Most winters we went weeks without heat or hot water. Sometimes. It was so cold. We all had to sleep in the living room with the space heater and close off the rest of the apartment, but my mom was happy. I think she would say those were the best years of her life. We were all together. There's there's a lot of friends that I know you know I've experienced. In Lot Predator they don't. Like I can see a lot of vibrance in her my mother's world was pocket Pocketbook factory, the beauty parlor, and then finally the insurance company she worked for in their mailroom she felt like a big success coming to this country and she always raised me to believe how lucky I was to be here. But that wasn't how I felt. So like my mom in the Dominican Republic I dreamed of a way out and that was something that really drove me in my life was. Figuring out how to get the heck out of there I mean I think they are both driven you know. Like you talk about wanting to leave one hundred eighth street but like they were there because. Of lefty are. Separately. Like just a winning to move up and out. Did you guys get along I? Really didn't understand her. By, the time I was sixteen I felt that had grown pastor in so many ways. I struggled to understand the lucky sprays, the candle lighting for saints, the hoarding the confusion. The next photo we pull out of the been his of my dad, my mom and my sister, and this is a photo of their first Christmas with my sister Margie it's an eight by ten black and white photo in front of the tree all dressed up my sister is sitting on my dad's lap and my mom is crouched behind them smiling. Margie has a smirk on her face. Oh is such a smash. Mommy do you remember it was marketed birthday last week? Mommy. Mommy. My big sister margie was killed in a car accident in nineteen eighty eight when she was twenty seven. She was engaged in on her way back from re speech in Brooklyn when a driver high on pill struck the car, her fiance was driving. Margie my mom real close. She spent endless hours in the kitchen cooking with her talking to her. They look so much alike and seemed to have so much in common. I felt close to Margie to. She was my playmate my friend and always looked out for me. This is a really hard picture for me Nola because when Margie died this was the photo that my mother was holding and running up and down the hall screaming. If there was anything that change my relationship with my mom. It was margie staff. A few months after Mardi die I booked my mom and I of flight to Paris with a stop in Rome. I did it on a whim. It was a magical trip. We scratch Margie's name on every surface we could. Every tourist site walked too much eighty too much and drank too much. At one point we were climbing to the top of the Arc de Triomphe and she just zoomed by me with this huge smile on her face and when we got to the top, there was a gorgeous view of Paris. I looked over at her, and at that moment there was so much joy in her eyes so much hope. Despite her pain, my mom was alive and living her life to the fullest and I learned so much about strength just watching her survive the unthinkable. For the first time in my life. I saw what we had in common. Mommy I was thinking about her. We Dominican Republic. If we took all the fun we have. Remember. Twenty four years later. I took another life changing trip with my mom it was two thousand and twelve her eightieth birthday and I decided to take her and my daughter's Nola was fourteen and Margot Eleven to the Dominican Republic I wanted them to experience where my mother had come from Eros Fund those trip for me that trip. was. The first red flag that something was seriously wrong I think that. Going to Dr really clear because we saw obligation the place that wasn't her house. And so like seeing her in comparison with like other hotel guests on like in an airport like I think it's a lot easier to be like, oh, she doesn't understand how do things that she should know how to do. The chip started out uneventful when we exit the plane I grabbed Margot's hands and Nola held my moms and she had some kind of idea that we had to go down some like secret coroner that was like not where anybody else is away. I heard you say relief the no up relief the no, and then I was like you know Mommy I realized that like me as the older sibling too you know would have to like. Kind of keep an eye on her you know and take care of her make sure. She didn't run off. As we finally made it to the hotel. My Mom morphed into a different person. I mean, we all turn to her like Okay Mommy go for Cheka thin. We're just kind of expecting believed to be like a resident Spanish speaker like we tell her what to say the English into Spanish The spokesman Israel. All the time with primarily voice stash you know and if it was English, it was like English with Spanish words Kinda in there. And this is like this don't makes me laugh I know it's not funny. She turned to stone. And she was like, I, do not speak satish about Hubbard's American. I do not stay strateg-, and we really what I was in shock I had no idea what my mother was doing. My Dad had died in hundred, Ninety, seven, fifteen years before. And my mom's first language had always been. Spanish. And suddenly she was refusing to speak it. It didn't make any sense. She was so disturbed in a place that we really thought she was going to come alive and be really excited. A few months after the trip to the Dominican Republic we were joined by grace her husband Paul for Thanksgiving. And Grace had noticed my mom had seen off lately and confronted US both. My mother said everything was fine and I chose to believe my mom. Did WanNa get old. That's another place. She'd like to stay the way she was she wanted to be yeah she did not want to get. Oh. My mother was not okay. She stopped. Liking people. You know. She have friends than she didn't like them anymore. She got really reclusive. Angrier. In December of two thousand and fifteen, I decided to go with my mom to see her doctor he suggested cognitive testing and gave us a referral. Three months later after a series of tests we ended up in neurologist packed bronx waiting room filled with black and brown people. When it was finally our turn we were told my mom had Alzheimer's disease. The doctor wrote down a few URL's and told me. Google. A life altering life ending diagnosis was given to her in the same manner I was told I was nearsighted. I grabbed my mother's hand as she stared blankly at the doctor. It was clear. She was just a number to him part of the statistic that shows a growing number of Latinos and African Americans stricken by this disease. I soon learned that African Americans are two times more likely and Latinos one and a half times more likely to develop Alzheimer's disease than. White Americans. And so here's where my mom and I clashed again, she struggled to believe the diagnosis while I was researching the hell out of it and trying to form a fight plan your mother said to me a lot. You know how Yvonne is she's always torn I said your the talks, a lot of stuff but a lot of the stuff is true because she sports. I was lost in my research and disgusted by what I found, all the issues that play communities of. Color. And Making Alzheimer's Disease The last chapter of too many of our lives, low socio economic status, high rates of cardiovascular disease and a higher incidence of diabetes high. Blood pressure. Obesity and depression are aggravating factors even education factors in Latinos also may develop symptoms at a younger age, the Non Latino Whites, and the community is under-resourced income retirement and pension benefits are far too thin to get too many members of my community help. The resources it needs. I thought about my future. With this going to be my end too. And I search for answers. Anything to help. A few weeks after my mother received her diagnosis hallucinations began to take over her world. She was seeing this boy. Like in her apartment this like boy to me felt like big demon. Of Two thousand sixteen things spiraled out of control. My mother's behavior became more radic, even dangerous, and at one point it got so bad that he was hiding knives so that she could stab the boy she an aide all the time because it just wasn't safe for her to be alone six months after getting her original diagnosis I scrambled to get her until clinical trial Latinos make up just seven point five percent of research participants and I read the clinical trials are key to finding ways to help not only my mom but other Latinos caught in the web of this disease. Since my mother was presenting with psychotic tendencies her new doctor suggested this could help the time demands were horrific the driving her back and forth from the Bronx where she lived to Columbia Presbyterian Hospital in Upper Manhattan the waiting in the office interviews with several doctors, the administration of the drug which she could not do herself. It was about six weeks of stress. And in the end, she got the placebo. I was wrecked. And like things just got harder that we couldn't do Christmas the same way I also discovered my mom had given away all her money to mail order psychics who promised her riches. She was always binge buying from catalogs and I feel like. It's because you like love her and like see the best inherently want her to to to be okay. But you you always hope that it's GonNa get better. And Syndicates Worse. And it did. The hallucinations of the boy in her apartment were joined by ice agents who she believed were coming to deport her despite the fact that she was an American citizen. She would call me frantic that they were coming for her begging me to help her things kept spiraling out of control until she ended up in the nursing home, the last thing I wanted to happen. And now, my mom who worked all her life learned English race two daughters in gave me the tools to succeed. Her life has deteriorated to this. Mommy Ratmalana. Ramani time I believe. Long. My mom nursing home is big. It's resident mostly black and Latino some wound boxes is to the wheelchairs. You often hear music like salsa or hip hop. The elevators are very slow and it's a bit rundown. Before cove it. They had started renovations, but it's a sad place not a lot of smiles. Alone. When Kobe I struck her nursing home I took advantage of the skype calls they offered I'm army. or You the first two or three I made she seemed to know who I was by the end of the call. But the last few I had, she had absolutely no idea patients. They have no recreational activity. They're isolated a lot, IRA sinners we heard from earlier. Told me about the extreme lockdown measures in my mother's nursing home after the first case of covid nineteen was discovered back. In March, the little bit of stimulus they were able to absorb his disappeared. My mom did have a group of friends. She did art classes played Bingo went to church and love the music group where they would play Celje crews, Mark Anthony, and beyond say to the residents who would dance in their wheelchair. Now, she's wheeled into the hallway and play six feet away from her friends. So they can look at each other. I've seen a lot of patients experienced a tremendous decline. That's my mom I last saw her five months ago and have no idea if or when I will see her again. I, know there has been a lot of death in the nursing home, but I can't get a straight answer to how many residents have died. Sometimes I obsess over what's next? What will happen to her? What is the time line, but there is none it's a hard answer I mean usually. Loss of functional status loss of the ability. To speak weight loss loss of ability to feed yourself. More apathy. All of that. Points to worsening dementia. And Dementia is a fatal illness. All I have at this point a memory's to get me through. Like the last time, she sang me happy birthday last year before she truly lost the ability to speak. The. State towards you. have. Stay that able. Stay Do. and. A little bit of Knowle's wisdom. I don't expect anything from her I can always you see that face value and be happy that they get to see her all Nola is so my mom's grandchild I don't care. 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Competition, Transparency and Social Proof: Will Ainsworth

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Competition, Transparency and Social Proof: Will Ainsworth

"Rather than putting a range or a process like most agents do and that once again the detracts or attracts boss to the property. This is law of it's real. It's facts as evidence that there varies eibar at the with the process on these property at X.. And then that will do two things. Boswell say great value in ten to the time well they want and Dole can really see the true value of the property. And that's why does love these prices. 'cause I can say exactly at any given time how the market is a foaming based stone. The current beat that they've got you listening to elevate the official podcast openly agent for real estate industry. Sales Professionals Company manages and leaders Litas each episode. We bring you the best minds in business in real estate to help you least more sell more. Elevate your results to connect with all things elite. The agent including the latest news coaching and beaches subscribe at our website elite agent dot com. Hey Hey we're back. The back of their code of the elevate. PODCAST on market woods from elite. Agent Samantha McLean editor of elite agent. When we say we're back with knots? It's not really weeds back back. Oh is in Geelong which is a long way from high. It was a bit of a plane. And Wrong Carteret uh-huh plane annalong contract year because Donald and to make me. It was fun anyway. It was for the property management lending retreat and Yeah in Enj- along so and there's property managers have a good time so you got sign but in the middle of like a hey positions and networking and stuff like that is Super Fun Activities Tributaries. I'm anxious squeezing. A podcast with will is worth from the graduate. Now I remember will Ainsworth name very well. Because we're the McGraw awards. A few months ago up off rocked up had had the the ALMANAC jacket on. I'll tell you what it was. Almost felt like every other reward was will ainsworth the team from garage along their on stage a lot which is what made me go seek him out. Actually because I was Cajun I well. The region's haven't haven't done so badly this year is everyone saying. The market's down the east coast of being a bit soft but the regions and there's some regional centers have been doing really well JR along. He's one of those areas Jason. They've had a lot of investment from the Victorian government around the university and stuff like that. Yeah so we'll Ainsworth. And he's tame basically he's placed in the talk talk to percents of industry professionals number of sales in Victoria and he has an impressive auction clearance rate of ninety percent. Now that's also little bit unusual for regional malaria because traditionally the regions are not auctioneers demo probably trade areas but basically we'll has coughed himself out a name for for being the top actiony in that region easel so good local little moving extra part of that auctioneering activity that he doesn't he well he does. He's an innovator. And and and as we've seen is very pro tech trends of kind of sprung up the last twelve months and one of them is not just the train to online auction nearing but trained into doing deals online and he uses a tool called. I've been negotiation to to do his tools so basically sitting listing presentation with will and he laid out private trading negotiation option and he'll explain the benefits of each one to the person that listing with. But I guess having those options and being muster of those options is what allows him to convert those listing. I'm picking the right one for the moment and the type of client that you working with. Yeah exactly and basically so we talked about all of them and we talked about. He's approach to auction and things like that but I guess what was really interesting too. About what a really dug into the stuff with over negotiation. Because he's given us a case study of how this all works so basically compared to something traditional I've been a level of transparency that he's not I wouldn't call it a day but it's probably the easiest way to be able to get get you hit around it from what I've been told in the beginning it is because if you think about it so basically whatever. The current bts on the open negotiation platform is what you see on real estate. They'll come to the year so you know how h property has. The price on real estate will become beat on earth. Negotiation is what people say route. So it's not like you can sort of be over under quitting or anything like that it's just like the ultimate depresses the process. He also in transparency. And then it's really interesting. The way that the deals get wrapped up and of course go guys do all of this on the podcast as well and it's quite an exciting process. Where during negotiations during the last little beat the auction? We'll go over to the vendors house and they'll be able to see him in action on the fine advise and stuff like that real time while this is going on so and Super Nice Guy Excellent excellent. What do you think the big takeaway from this podcast audience? Well I think so. We'll have built an amazing team and amazing team culture and he's he's been an innovator in a regional area so I think number one is you know even though people might say well. My market's different. I think wheels kind of proof that best best practice works anywhere also. The thing is to try new things so we'll be trying different things with vendors and making sure that you know he's he's always playing with a straight bet with these vendors. which is you know something? That's so important in real estate and the other thing I think that is really interesting about will is. He's approached to work life balance so like he was quite often with me towards the end about how you can really let real estate. Can She me but being the CO director the business and leading payment people that he's growing and that sounds looking always on target. Very always on bit will is big advocate for looking after yourself as well. I'm sure they were GONNA be tons of takeaways on this particular episode definitely so we have two things actually so number one is we have the usual show nights and the transcript and we have action God for this one. There's a special link to a case study with will on how he uses negotiation which is Which is pretty interesting so if you're on the fence about looking at some of these online platforms that's a really good wants to download? So you get the links to that as well plus all of that that little value bombs and things like that that will along the way and there was a lot of them so so the case study will be in the in the post that's accompanying the actual podcast. So they're also have the short Lincoln the action God's Always be with you. That's it and and as usual all the other links to anything else that that will mention in the podcast will be in the night and to get China. ELEVATE DOT COM excellent. Sounds like this is going to be a great one to listen to a really like the idea of having the yeah so the easy differentiation between three different selling models on really looking forward to listening please get onto it. Let's get on the welcome to the podcast cast. Will I thank you for having me. It's awesome to be here in Jhelum. Lovely sunny weather. We're having people could say that it's actually glutton on so you cleaned up at the McGraw awards this year. I was there and I kept saying you in between getting up on stage. So firstly. Congratulations thanks very much. It's nice to be recognized amongst the pretty good brand well yet. I some of the somebody would've given out. The franchise awarded just really reflective of specifically with his competitive like grow. Yeah so tell me I mean you know we're in a regional area of Geelong but tell me what does it take to be one of the best offices in network wake Mike mcgraff. It's a really good question. A lot of hard work. I guess is the simple Ansa. But it's built up over a long sustained period of time. We haven't just woken at one die. I am vain where we are now. Say It's about having a great team around you and creating a culture where everyone wants to work hard for themselves and and the business and that just reflects in everything we do from day to day. Yeah and so tell me a little bit about the office in Geelong how big is it. How many have what's the tame look like yet so we've got about forty two staff? I think it is at loss. Can't spread property management siles admin accounting etc.. And we've just ticked off and on one hundred and seventy properties under management. We do have a target We did have a target by two thousand twenty two thousand so I will well and truly say that which is nice and we've got a bad eyesight siles paper with a host of assistance and help them so it's a pretty big time now. Yeah absolutely a Muslim market like here in Geelong because there's a lot of talk about the market paying not say thank granted lost twelve months but in some agents here. It's been quite good. Yeah Yeah Jalaun definitely did experience a little bit of a deep when nobody needed. But we tend to follow the Melvin market by I sort of twelve months so we can always look for a forecast on hedge along will perform. But we definitely don't have the really the peaks in Charleston the sparks at Sei Melbourne Auburn in Sydney heff but Jones just steadily grind. Ever since I've been in real estate so it's a great market Attila's about how you got into real estate. How long have you been in? Probably the most romantic story but I pretty much had nothing else to do. So that's the short of it and my dad said You you talk a lot of sheet. So you'd be good at selling houses. Hey he just said you should charriol aside so I got my trip. He forced me to do that. And then two weeks later he got me a job in a local firm and before on on your does kind of half Jason at it and just build a career from the so that was about fifteen years ago started and I'll have pain at a number of offices in Geelong but settled settled very well in what was Wri Wad now McGraw and of vain there about seven years. Now Yeah and you've recently sporting to the businesses. Well Yea yes so a couple. Five years ago I thought it was time to take the next step in and board into the business and it's been thoroughly enjoyable because it's bank business. I WANNA visit. The real estate is agenda really. Tolkien Chase I've had to learn a lot about myself and how to run a business so it's been great. Yeah and you still list and sell as well like personally as well as yea running out of the business they had he says yeah so the fortunate thing is there are three of us so we definitely have areas of the business that we focus on in Montes differently leasing and sailing and running the sales team. So that's Kinda my baby the other two after die also at least in cell but they look after mall property management. They're running die tonight of the business. Yes but I would say eighty to ninety percent die jobs still leasing and sailing which is what I love how many listings would j carried anyone time at the moment. I've got thirty which is a lot more than I usually do. Say I would usually average around sort of fifteen to maybe twenty but It's just been a phenomenal last couple of months. Where we've just listed Eliza twenty properties in September? I think I'm up to ten now this month. A businesses all of sudden. Just gone to the next level again so I would usually really carry fifteen to twenty. Yeah it's it differently in my main thing. Isn't it the the more my main Jimmy get the momentum yet the more the more as I say the mobile cards you got out the most sold seek more clients that are out there talking about you and who by hopefully just mainstay econ of disciples which is A. It's great because the the amount of hard work you do to push that be balled up to actually start rolling down the hill guy. Momentum is is really hot and challenging but once you get going he still have to K- K. pushing the that's the thing is a lot of agents that a successful race only laurels and stay at the same at the same level for year after year. And I can't name tight the next extent it's just a matter of continuing on. Yeah and so. What was the one of the things that he did in the early days to get that bowl really rolling? Because I'm sure that yeah. Yeah the the main challenges we're hearing for agents at the moment is that you know they finding it difficult to no end take an extra team member on and you know what was some of the things he did early in your career Korea. What some of the things that? If let's say if you could travel in a time machine back today that you would do more quickly. It's a really good question There's not one thing it's a whole choice of things but the Diaz dotted backing real estate. It's a long story but go out of your sight for little while. So let's just say that on the data back. I got an assistant from Taiwan and knew that was the most important thing because I knew my time needs to be spent on prospecting listing and selling in negotiating so the moment put into that and have someone else do all the can work the better odds bay so he's taking that late and just knowing that there's really no plan bay. That was the first thing that I did too. And she'll that the things went well but it's just doing the one basinas every single day to make sure that all the clients that you have consistently happy and the prospecting reminds regardless of how much show had little business you. Have you have to have that Tom. And you die where no matter how crazy you die is going that you put aside to do. What got you where you are which is prospecting and talking to people who are thinking of selling? Yeah and so that would be the core activity for you now is still just talking to people in you database about in market that day houses yet. It's really at my philosophy's just helping people that that's all we're doing so on calling someone who might not be selling for five years. He's telling them about how the market is telling him about. Recent siles providing them information so that the world is full of information. That's free but people die. I Watt sold yesterday unless I tell them so. It's a bad the spade of letting people knives so that on not telling him stuff that I already known on the Voice of Information and as I say bay the real aside agent before I need that real estate agent. Yeah it's kind of a why to isn't it because you know things myself but then they may sell above or below what you I thought they would someone like He. That's around. This area would be out of sight. Well that one sold for fifteen thousand above what we thought it would because the story behind the style alleys. Absolutely right Sam The sole process is one thing but it's how many Beatles did you have waited the bar come from the people let me stat. What's the demographic and the story behind the style of a lot of people locked to he? Yeah absolutely what about auctions in Shillong is a big auction market. Yeah Yeah and that's actually probably should have answered that earlier that the why I've kind of got ahead at one stage. was I work in an area coach waist which has about four thousand homes. That's who are sort of predominately. Emily do most of my business in back in about two thousand seven no-one deductions then and I wanted to create a point of difference and private sale. was what what everyone did. So thoughtful Lavar can get him auctions underway and bay that person if you WANNA sell your house in a guten prime gripe process that you come to me and so I sort of forged ahead with that auction process and that's really what leverage my business to the next level where people kind to wanted to auction it properly and an now naughty five percent of properties along waster auction. I'm not saying that is attributed for me. But I was just doing something when everyone else was doing something I was doing kind of the opposite. Yeah that's what I've always wanted to do because as divy squeaked moist agents will decide and if you can make a point of difference that Avenue Queen team that we don't look the sign than I want to be that person that people to a different process yeah. I'm a big fan of that as a marketing tactic. Because then you can. You can easily say against other agents will arm the number one ocean agent in this area because there is nobody else corrects about funding. And if you if you the only one that's definitely number one yeah absolutely and technology also plays a big role in your business too so I know in terms of you. You know private trading and auction you guys use to accord. I've been negotiation as well. It's just where people can put bits on property as I understand using an APP can can you explain to me how that works business so pretty much. Was it two thousand seven Assad to doing auctions and now everyone does auction so then always looking for that next point the difference in it also came at a time where the banks under the Royal Commission looked into the banking industry. It was very difficult for a lot of Blasi. Get Finance and in a timely laundly MENA so I was doing lots of auctions where I had ample buys but no Beatles because I couldn't actually be under an unconditional process. I I found that a little bit of a silly Adt Com because people that wanted to buy the hyman compete. But they couldn't Judah that reason so I've been guy allows all buys regardless of their terms if the vendor chooses to accept those terms to compete for the property so it's essentially an auction where the competition is there which competition in. My opinion always always drives the hottest process but it also allows boys who can't beat it at a traditional auction to compete Sei mobilize competitive environment Maine's a hi processing assured us by some time so in essence that's what I've been. Negotiating is but I only do something that benefits vandals and boys and May and so from the the boys point of view it's a completely transparent process like a normal auctioneers where the buys can say at any given on the current beat him and he beat his era and have comfort around where the value of the property laws ONS as opposed to private silo. trae where it's a bit of cloak and dagger put your best offering an envelope. I'm not telling you what the thirties under the table. What do I NEETU Pie? Walk can't tell you that to me. That's I mean real estate agents. Don't have the pissed trustworthy. Niger as it is so I don't want people to it. Not Engage in buying a property. They feel I can't know what to pay so as I said. The auction process allows competition which allows us to buy what I think is a fair value and social proof. Guys show someone's prepared to pay then unprepared to all the other laws were paid to pilot a week more and hence why you say eight hundred thousand two hundred grand reserve because that's the true test of the market. Yeah so with open negotiation. How does it work in mark? I just how does it work in the wild. Yeah okay. It's a really good question. So essentially I've been negotiation is a hybrid of Private Silence Treaty and Auction and the private style pod is it allows conditional additional buyers to compete for the property will be involved in the process and the auction parties. It's basically a competitive environment. Where all the buys compared to find the eventual sale process so in principle it is at the time People come in and get qualified to beat so putting a starting price. It doesn't have to be what uh I think it's worth it just to stop like would they. With the normal auction in that. Have to get qualified to beat Se. They saw any often terms and contract and their signing off on their terms and conditions and the vandals Decided happy with that said Baas terms and conditions and then they were qualified beata and that the current deed is always is the advertise price. So that's probably the cato. It is that if the current beatty's law within what value is then you attract laws to the property and then you work out from there and then as the price goes up then the interest drop off. Lock any no motion when you get to the pinnacle of across point is anyone until you left left once you get to a prostate. The owner is relatively comfortable with then. You can do what we call the final beating stage which is kind of locked the auction. But it's done invite the APP so it's like going once going twice a year yet so as much as I don't like the side as it's almost like the guy where it can't stand to atone lawn but at that time law and that's when it starts not where it ends like Ebay so at six PM on Tuesday not all the beat is wherever they are in the will. I just need an Internet connection and a an iphone or an ped- die can say the current beat and HBO has two minutes to base the previous speed and once newbies my too many clock race dots so that you can go on for as long as the market continues to go on. Everything subject to the vandals reserved normal auction. So they've Indo has comfort that it doesn't doesn't may be reserved I just don't sell so older. Buys can say all the beads at any given time and it's a completely transparent process so fa mi asks. Let's works for the by because I know what to pay. It works for the Vandal. Because I can say where the value of the property the Bauza Stein into tap out so to speak because the council and beat is always the advertise price and for the agent. It allows us to determine Exactly how many beauties you've got and way there will at at any given tom say let's say property comes on the market gets listed on real estate dot com that your to mind Oklahoma you with the price that initially goes into open negotiation association and then as people start putting bidding process. She goes up. You like live on the portal. Yes so every time somebody searching for a property happening they can see whatever the current crises. Wow that's pretty amazing. People must love that all do and that's what I said. He's rather than putting Ryan Ryan or a process like most I do and that once again other detracts or retract spa the property. DC's law it's real. It's faxes evidence that there is a Eh with us on this property at X.. And then that will do one of two things will say great value in ten to the time I want and Van Dole can really say the true value of the property. And that's why does love these prices. Because I can say exactly at any given time. How the market is how it's performing homing by stolen the current beat they've got yeah and then I suppose like let's say things aren't performing exactly the way that you would want them to before we get to the point money in which I want to come back to? That sounds quite exciting actually very so. Let's say we're awake into this. And the price isn't quite what the vendor thought it might be. What what? Tj then is it just you go back and have normal conversations about marketing and stuff like that yes so it's a matter of trying to rectify issues bay and typically properties selling or getting interest. It's based on the presentation fossil marketing and we look at the marketing and make sure we comfortable with everything that has been addressed. Does the property pretty little space. And then I suppose the third one is with the price point and that's once again the conversations. We have not as confrontational as I usually with a normal auction auctioned Has Vince they part of it. I can say at any given time how it's going so usually the first to actually address it not us. And it's it's more of a partnership the sheep prices rather than agent visits vin diesel. Does that make sense. Yeah often I think. The problem agents face particularly in a market going down is his win. They go the vendor to give them feedback to say actually look we had six papal through the open for inspection and you know. They think they're saying saying it's around. This thinking around that is often caused the vindicate ago will hang on a second agents saying is not what we you believe. But then what I'm guessing is that when everything's out in the open air transport like as transparent get those conversations probably l.. Listen last year I absolutely As I said it's very much the vandal can save what's going on and the The Times are different prices. This is well because it's not a matter of just letting ause eating and then asking them on the way out what did you do you like it or not and I say I will think of what I think about it. These prices the the the property can sale at anytime and so what that does is it. Actually Mike Spas Mike Decisions on the run so if a by wilkes at from an Ivanhoe time I remind them. Do you realize property concealed tomorrow onto these these prices. Do you have interest at six hundred thousand one of the beauties. No we done. Okay thank you. The indoor indoor can say that that creates agency to yes we do great. We're GONNA have to come inside. We'll get you qualified to be on time because if it sells tomorrow the people that can actually a in this process a qualified abuse. So it's very much a black and white is not a guy. Do you want to buy the property at these condor. Beat more or do you not and as I said. It's a much different darlow with the Baya and most auction campaigns. All the whole inference fiction every person that's come through the campaign could be fifty one hundred and awesome all. You're going to the auction tomorrow. You're going to be the auction tomorrow. What you thinking and maybe one or two? I've gained a lot of trust with us. We'll be there will everyone else says. I'm not sure we'll see how we go had. I realized that to the Vandal. They're all going to say how that guy that allow lavender's sleep very well and not fully auction. Yeah whereas with this Mr Mrs Van Dole we have five qualified bidders way now sitting at seven hundred thousand you'll reserve X.. Or we have have to do is get an extra fifty to reserve. But that's my job and I'll be doing that for you. It's a much more comfortable easy conversation to have and Dia with you and not having to co fifty one hundred people on calling the fog pitas that we have to say your way that the property is going to final beating stage tomorrow it seeks seeks. Is there anything else we can help. You is actually go to gooding tonight connection. That's it that's it so remember back. When Abe IFA started like Levin is is pointing to the prime too and I remember I had a very different to a property? Obviously but I had it on Ebay for about a week and nothing really happened into until about an hour before the deadline. In which case you know like I did. CAIN space of like one hour. Is that what happens to really simplify tonight. Yes or no as Yvonne Yvonne it said Ah the property can sell it on the could sail at anytime I think the beads would have come in Alia. Yeah right so this process even though the final beating stages typically sit four weeks out from when it goes to mock normal auction campaign the K.. To these is that final beating stage can be brought forward at any time so it's a very flexible people prices way. If you have enough pitas and you have enough buys wake into the final beating stash tomorrow morning at night I am. So you're not leaving the buys hanging out there at risk he's GonNa fons another property going on the property. You're maximizing the Beatles that you've got and you're not leaving as sitting out there hoping that you find any other the beaches it because you've already got them that saved. The property starts to get cold. Wave not getting anymore boise through the property more inquiry. That's the time we can stop. Oh Yeah and that's where your skill is. An agent comes into no inches sort of hit that button to say that we're going to because then it's playing yes so some some stats behind project doing these. So I looked at my previous tensile. Ten thousand devour negotiation. I was averaging thirty two days on market the the normal processes are now everything sixteen dies will knock it all right literally. Half an averaging four point three Betas pay property whereas averaging one point seven Betas property under the normal auction prices and on getting. 'twas the boss room properties on open arms so the numbers are more than double less than half whichever stat you WANNA look at. It's very compelling machine. It's not hard to get hateful to let sidebars to appreciate the prices on the like you know like when you said you have to get them. Qualify them get Getting sign up also thinking i. That's another step bit. How easy is it to get by to actually? Just get in there and get qualified. It's takes me about five minutes. It's just a matter of getting the baud download. The APP will go I to a browser and just open up the website and all I do is on the property depending beating. Now the painting Beatty's just the number I wanNA start at and I pray submit it and all that does is allow May to the fact that I wanNA become a qualified beata and then we bring out the paperwork which is all away feeling. Is that normal date house. You would feel a normal contract attract except for the process. Yeah so vegetables nine. Their address solicit The deposit this settlement and any conditions. I WanNa beat on the yeah. That's it's a pretty seamless process. I'm thinking too. It's probably a good way to qualify buys for other properties that you might have listened to while we have sold a lot of properties off market judges Jewish prices as well because we have Sipho beat his own a property. We have all the details. We know what Tim's meeting under and we know what prostate be too so then when I go to win a prize of the following week Consi- off now got full buys lift Iva and you can say the stats. I've been negotiation has a pdf that you can print off that shows. We're all the Beatles were process. was they names or anything and off salt plenty of property off market knowing that I'll have gone to me down that one and then yet in terms as well so once again it's a pretty compelling process. So what would you say to agency still liking is there are still. Some affidavit is sort of thinking I need to hold all this information to myself like to get people to come to May say the the the only people that will succeeded. I've been Geyeshan. Arana's real estate agents status but real estate agents. That is actually not a lot more of these more work involved in these processes because I just mentioned signing applies it. I've been himes Paparazzi. Call will. It's all done online just does itself. It's actually quite the contrary so it does take take time but once you master that it's quite an easy prices so all we do is add another ten minutes to the end of our behinds. For those saw knup's we then get duckie Sauna Organiz to send that documentary Vando for them to saw off site with with Khan admitted caught. Same prices Tailing the boss got off when they died telling them they've got process when these for them. Yeah I can I can definitely say that what about other sorts of technology like you just mentioned docu signs if I was to ask you apart from my for negotiation obviously jockey sign have bigger role has technology played where we use. What's at every every single campaign when we saw when I saw policing I asked the vein does having got Can't and then because I have a tame of full including including me. We are all part of that WHATSAPP group and all the correspondence. That's not worthy of final guys in there. So there's a ton online if there's two of indoors wanting to state one's nautile there's a divorce or there's a disabled style with three kids that are all I can say at any given time what's going on we and we put audio messages in thereafter Ivan. himes so they can. He had the time's gone and proofing the marketing as well. It's all done and because on running around so busy doing leasing and sailing negotiating. I WANNA keep a tab on what's going on with campaigns as well so at the end of the dial can just go through the WHATSAPP group and say exactly what happened that day. That'd be control freaks a lot to say what's going on at any given time. I think thinking so we. I use facebook instagram and link Dean for a lot of L. Promotions as well so I can't say we sell a lot of property via that we have sold them but it's it it's more of a passive tool getting people interested in the property and wave. We do a lot of marketing as via facebook. And he's criminal side mock doc it updates in reps at the end of h Saturday. I'll give a mock it up. I don't have that dies progressed. How many numbers? We've had the what I've seen That was different to the previous Waco in that I think the the buying or selling community would lock tonight. Yeah and do you do anything special in terms of marketing acting the process of negotiation auctions. Like when you're in a listing presentation how do you explain that to pretty much how I have with you on very much case studies. Let's talk about what we've done prior and showing them these stories and every probably going to probably solve one within a few hundred meters of that says usually bringing out the most relevant property to to this but it's also on thinking I'm going to get a listing in the next six months getting that Klein involved in the process before for they're actually going to list and I've been negotiating you can become what we call an observer so you can go into negotiation and follow a campaign and see how it's tracking and you can watch the final beating stage so we in the past would invite a potential van door to watch an auction on doing. This is kind of the same. We're just asking them to watch the campaign and then once I say it in real off if they're if they're slightly skeptical of the process and I say how much we get above Brazil. Aw It basically answers any questions. I probably have and does every campaign ridiculously well some properties we get at one. Peter in and this process is very flexible in the fact that Eva by wants to come in on the first. I've been hiring and just take it off the market. They can choose to do that so it doesn't have have to go to the final beating staged I can putting across at the vandals happy with that process. We can just press a button and sell it to them as a soul. And it's done it's because it's an auction there's no cooling off period so it takes once again the benefit even if it sold Diwan to a viable product. Sil- negotiation is still Doina cooling-off period. which is quite good? Well so that gives you multiple points of discounts in the market. Like just trying to mentally calculate them in my head but I'm not. I'm not a guide to this. There's ample yeah and I've had some people of the regeneration sil- paper wine understand in the sixties and above want to engage in this process so I sold a property way. Three beat is on the property. Were seventy five live eighty six and ninety five and all be under the negotiation process and they actually loved it because I didn't have to turn to the property to a live auction and standing in front of a crowd of people and and put the hand up inside these on the by for these property and shy vice assault properties to sports people by this process. WHO DIDN'T WANNA go to the auction and reveal that they have the by the probably I could see in the comfort of their time they anonymous and buy the property so once again not that we would know this but I imagine it'd be a lot of people out there that don't WanNa stand in front of a crowd of one hundred people and show them who they are how much they've got to spend? Yes I can remind anonymous. Shoot I want Eh. Yeah I look at auctions a quite confronting for a lot of painful fun fun if you notice series beater by if you really want the place in yes actually raising a sweaty palms the easiest thing today. Yeah it's locked at a normal auction. You've got fifteen minutes to the vandal. And the agent to say say what's actually going on under negotiation. That pretty much is just drawn out for for the van door to say Mike educated any full decisions as its tracking racking along so much more God it along the way and I can say and Mike as a saint for decisions about their reserved. I bring it down and I put it up and I can say how many Beatles they've got so when we go to the final beating psych. We've got four bidders we're GONNA get competition only got two so we're on goods and beat them so why don't we possibly negotiate. Check with Hospita. So the tactic and the process we're going via is based on real facts. which is all of Indo? Wants to say okay so tell me about the final beating stage. Tell me about landing the plane. What happens in yeah? It's really exciting. So we tend to go to Alvin time and we plug my ipad into a screen and I get the puck. Cohen says like the book. Yeah pretty much. Yeah so we all sit around and white until six. PM Whiting contacting. James Nike Contract and influence a EH whilst way Whitey that two. Can't Dan Montaigne contacting. The beat is just to make sure everything's GonNa run smoothly and then at six pm we Kana sitting back. And I just want you guys on now way at May as the agent has the ability to pull. Is that two minute clock at anytime and the reason I would do that easy. If we looking like. Someone's not going to beat can pull that clock and bring that Baya in front of the vendola not unless Baker but I can see what I'm saying and I can watch me negotiate now now. You can't do that with an election. The vein does usually stuck inside with the e to the wall China. What's going on out there and has no power and now they're just hoping we didn't? Yeah yeah through the kids. Now I'm auctioneers say. I love auctions wrong but these prices allows may still do miles nearing. It's just in a different format. So can you imagine if an auction it pulls an auction and walked over to the second hospital and in front of everyone said how you need to put another another ten thousand and tried to negotiate with them. It just wouldn't work. Yeah with these I can contact the second and awesome to put in another bead Telam Lem reasons why that I modified gotten that. It's on bigger blocks. And I thought oh are different orientation. Whatever the negotiations and indoor can watch me and listen to my dog so that allows the vandal? Once again feel more comfort around the fact that ED paying may two or three percent to get the best outcome. I'm showing them along with that two to three percent that at that time if I can get an extra five ten twenty thousand out of that Buyoya. That's may painful awesome. Yeah absolutely it's it's well it is definitely. I think the way to prove your worth isn't was as an agent or is any Jomaa's like Tell me finding make me laugh. Yes yes Yeah yeah if they can see you in action. Yeah and I mean you can imagine with the private treaty When you contact the van door it's all done via fine you contact of enormous? I got you an extra ten count. You gave me twenty now. That wouldn't pay twenty will go back and do it again. That Kant he the conversation Thomason. You've had that kind of the the tone how hard you push didn't push back on the personality of the by the con- Braille of that. Yeah these once again. I can sit there Aaron. Wash it all and that case eyeing but they can make much more informed decisions by stone those conversations. I'm having Yep so some folks so sorta state a few years ago online auctions would never were like they were quite a few different online auction. Tools were available But none of them seem to take off until now this you know. There's a few of them like open. It's really working for you. Do see that is the way the future I do. I off vandals. All options on not wanted just Ramdan. That's right and say you must do these oil for Private Silo Treaty Auction And take them through the pros and cons of all three and then I'll let them make the decision. I God them. Because they're asking me for my expertise and I say this. This is what I recommend for your property. However you'll have indoor ye can tell me what you like to do when I take them through all the three campaigns probably ID to ninety percent of them side? Lots to do negotiation rushing. Because I can say the reasons why if the other off got some live the real welcomes going at the moment. I've got a couple of privacy is going the mind and say I'm not just going down on that Bought as Sadie works for the ball and it works. The vendola works for the agent. That is a win win. Yeah no one loses surprises his. Everyone wins so as long as everyone's doing that on pretty comfortable. That suggest process for them. Yeah absolutely and so what is next. Few say you cleaned up at the awards. What are your goals for the next month's personally my goals to along what I'm already doing as far as As a as a salesperson ONA build some more team members Iran me and build those team members up to be good real estate agents in their own rot in must've alteration and wisdom. I'm SORTA start really getting trade and interested in watching and helping other agents growed. Uh so that's that's a real K to to my business for me. Real estate is always about and everyone that knows me about work and life and the balancing between the to work on Fridays. On Sundays off had a history of mental illness. And I've got a young family and so so for me. I keep saying in my head pretty much every day that it's a marathon not a sprint and so I've built top incrementally and to me that's the widest Stein. A A good healthy career in real estate you can make you can ride a million dollars one year but if you're out two hundred thousand or you're not in the guy in the following that's a really silly why to look at real estate right. Say to me. It's building up from you on year but not doubling tripling building up and maintaining healthy lost all that my family can actually remember those around down the track. So that's what I'm about. So what does performing at your peak look like few like you just mentioned work life balance which is a really a big topic in the real estate industry like what does the typical dialogue like. Va so you ought to get into the office about I thirty and I would these final beating sizes as we do tend to be after our say that does take a bit more of Montana during the week. But because I'm an auction any not doing many auctions on Saturdays so I'm sort of giving anti-king taking on either way but the typical would look like thirty come in. I'd have a with mating with Montaigne. Talk about what we're GONNA do that. Die What we didn't do. The following day said everyone only prices and why we go so I would typically do some prospecting in the morning and then have i. I sort of average two to three reprisals. Di Do those in the afternoon and then I would try behind by six thirty if possible. Who dials savings is much better than I can? Keep before you'll do something with the kids and that's pretty much my day some days along but some days I might finish it five and then I'll go for the sake of saying I would to sixty awake. Yvonne finished my where can have had a productive. Dial Mama today yeah. Absolutely what advice would you give to younger agents getting into the business hey hustle hustle hustle. Linda Linda Sinai. The word no is probably the mice. Anita laws would in real estate Tell you how many people have won an appraisal on fraud. I enough said No. And they've said I will do Monday. You Must Control Your Disney and your calendar there are. There are probably ten percent extenuating circumstances that you must do certain things and I understand that. I'm not just know everything but you must be smart with your time. And if you don't control your Dari other people will and you'll be pulled from the france-inter and you wanted productive mentally physically. You just want it is about and sitting your calendar for important important meetings such as prospecting prospecting is more important than appraisal because you only got that appraisal because he prospected yet so if you're not prospecting for two hours there's a day you'll I'm not saying I'm not a matter of two hours. A day also demanded Kohl's off a bad have productive during that time. Have you got what you wanted to get involves a new. I would sit Tom Lawns. Because then that creates habits and one size habits is set. They'll they'll say if you career and you'll just two hours eighty chance. Toss him and does ideas a day. I can't do that and I would never do that. He's Shane Yeah he's a machine and right. That's amazing that he can do that. I can't and I don't want to do that so so I would to my strengths and that's just being productive in the time that I've got that that's how my Diane Wake Works. Yeah I agree with you. I think is the Lord diminishing returns to you can be productive like in your in the state of your highest productivity rather for like twenty seven tonight. Yeah and there's you know as people side is. I am managing energy and in the morning I'm usually pretty productive on the phone and then launch and you start to get lethargic then you're out in the fresh air and you're at people's house you tend to be more in a jaws. Just moving around and hang around. People say worked his strengths. If you'll not if you're the opposite then do your points in the morning. I don't follow what everyone does. Just do what works for you and just we've often duplicate what other good ideas do but then molded into what works for your personality and your marketing you business. Yeah absolutely said. Thank you for being so generous with your your knowledge. Today it's been rising to Selena about how you take properties to block it in in all those different ways. If there was one thing that you would like people to remember from listening to this interview with you what would it be. It is exactly what we sort of finished on his that Real Estate Korean. If you look at it if you come into real estate at twenty three he retired thirty five. Sorry fifty dollars. It'd be NAS is to to look at that time lawn and and make sure that you enjoy that doesn't get to the end of it and might you. Might I be wealthy. You maybe not but and not have enjoyed that career. Because that's you lost that that's fifty Senate aloft gone so make sure that when you're in dire today you are smelling arises. You breathing fresh air. When you're at Saad and just running around lucky hitless chill so often size to just take you on build incrementally and and you sustain that type plenty of time off? I do. We've got a caravan so we go a long way. Kane's got little holidays to look forward to. It's kind of like when you're at school and you look forward. Oh to the holidays. If three or four weeks away you can push today so you take as much off as early as you can give yourself somebody forward type. Yeah even if it's a message on fraud afternoon just something that you feeling about. It offers wayside with their kids. Is that you just doing something for yourself. Yeah amazing relying twit twist thank you. Thanks to connect with all things elite agent including the latest news coaching and features subscribe L. Websites elite agent dot com.

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Ep 7 "Keep it pushing..."

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Ep 7 "Keep it pushing..."

"Welcome ladies podcast. I'm your host to meet their bringing you stories of triumph and inspiration. Today's special guest is an actress. Who Co Stars on the new hit? Show Tyler Perry's ruthless. Please welcome talented Jawuan Sonata Jones. I am not. Hi How are you? I'm good thank you for doing this. Show Yvonne Man. Thank you for having me. It's an honor. Thank you for sure. So the corona virus everyone's affected but how is it affecting you You know it's funny. My husband and I have a production company and so we do a lot of work from home. So we're one of the people who those people who are you to stay at home situation So that's been good hasn't been too hard of a transition. I do miss driving down to see my mom We're doing a lot of time and I think probably it's actually. I brought my family closer together on certain five 'cause my cousins were all somewhat far from each other but we've been doing virtual game nights every week and it's been awesome. Wow that sounds pretty cool. So how is it in handled in the state in which you live? Where in southern California but de-emphasis was the first to do their stay at home order and we followed closely behind so actually thank God. We have the few amount of cases per capita. I believe in association with our size of our state so not the blessing. What it is is that we stay at home. We have to wear masks. They have which I think is wonderful. The first hour of the grocery that catered to senior citizens to go and then after that you stand in line from each other and then you get to go in and go out much. I guess what's happening all over the country so we've been in house for at least we'll sports going on two months now to be honest with you So it's been a while. Are you going crazy? You know? Thankfully my husband and I are you having to be at home together So we've had a few years of practice. We work together However yes that walk to the mailbox has been like life and getting the out of the house. He has So it it is a little bit when it comes to knowing what day it is. You know everybody's kind of experiencing and deciding today my super productive days or today my netflix extinct kind of in the way that it is. I will be very grateful. Pick it out because like I said we're very close family On my mom's side of the family we're Bolivia and we're used to getting together at least once a week as a group so I think that's been kind of hard that's great. You guys are close knit that way. Yeah I love it. I really do as we talk about your mom and your family. How did you roll up? Okay so like my mom is Bolivia which is very rare for the United States. Not Many Bolivians outside of my family that I've met And my dad is Haitian so I haven't been to Bolivia yet to be the Haiti because my pretty protective of his daughter then that he wants to political climate and just different things. Kinda come down. He does annually. He was raised there and grew up there and everything. But I really do want to go so yes. Bolivia and Haitian and actually. My mom remarried when I was three years old. And my dad is a redhead from the mid West in life that They call them. I have to They actually both walked me down the aisle which was awesome. And I'm really grateful for my family dynamic because I know you know families have divorced. Don't always work that way where people can at least be in the same room with each other and you know be kind to each other so I'm really grateful for that but it gives me married different childhood experience very unique childhood experience growing up with pre much being the only black person in my household by. I think what it has done for me as an older woman has made me much more hungry to study my culture and On both guys but definitely because I had less exposure to my Haitians that side of my culture and getting it now as an adult woman because it makes up so much of WHO I am. We'll come to the east coast. The Caribbean Community is very live in. Well yes all of my My Dad is one of seven I believe and all of those siblings are in Florida. My brother's in Florida so Yeah I definitely love going out there as we talk about your life. What were some of the experiences that shaped you into who you are? Well I feel like I was always sensitive. I did get bullied in school pretty much from I would say it was elementary. So it's about fourth grade all the way to junior high and junior high. The principal have to get involved on my senior year because it had gotten too aggressive. I think a lot has to do with. I didn't fit in anywhere like I said. It was so early nineties although I looked black I didn't quote unquote sound black. You know And so I wasn't really accepted into the black community IDA earlier age. I wasn't high school. I think when you're younger in elementary school doxa first thing that you think. Okay we're in groups like who's the closest related to me and the kind of personality I have in the background I have. I think once you're in high school insuring college understanding that people are GonNa come from much more complex background and people. Nobody's going to be in a box. There's no way to sound black. You know there's so many of us and we all sound different and American black is different than Haitian blacks and different than Caribbean blacks. You know what I mean so. Unfortunately though in elementary school is the case with a lot of people are once believe. Because I just I didn't fit in in any category really and so I do believe that it made me very sensitive to how people feel as far as I am now a high school teacher. Actually I work with a nonprofit city heart and I teach drama three times a week at a high school. I've been there for six years that experience. Maybe very hyper sensitive to any kind of isolation that might happen to people or bullying. That might be happening. Absolutely cannot happen in my class. I am on top of it but it stemmed from me wanting people to treat others the way they want to be treated and so I feel like that sensitivity that was developed at a young age because of that experience has really helped me in my career because it is all about taking on the feelings of somebody else whether it be someone real or fictional on paper and seeing things from their point of view and how they're looking at the world and how the treatment of them is etc so that was my experience growing up. Actually that's beautiful. You have taken your experiences in nail. Used it to advocate and help others absolutely. I just recently got to have a tuna with a high school girl in Chicago. And there was a beautiful girl there and the group and she had his job on covering her head in her question was how was your journey to finding yourself or did you face any adversity growing up and I asked her. Are you currently facing adversity? And she said Yeah because again. She doesn't fit into the normal box that we expect certain cultures to fall into. And we're not used to seeing people in America who looked like job. Maybe you know. Maybe if he went Africa you feel a lot more. Obviously so it's nice to be able to speak to others who are going through it in different ways. I another girl in the group actually grew up in South Carolina we're in Atlanta and she was also having to deal with the same thing because they thought she was a little country. You know so. It's nice to be able to help from something that was so painful and I think that's the beauty is that God is able to use bad things that happen to you which I don't personally don't believe I believe personally that got good and so. I don't believe those things are caused by but I do feel like he's able to use those things and you're able to use those things if you're open to help other people who experience really bad things. Absolutely our trials make the And that strength can be extended to someone who needs completely. Would've I was excited about your podcast. Because I see what you're doing. You're allowing people to share pain. The pain they experienced in their life or possibly still experiencing but how they are using it for good and using it to other people and it's so crucial especially in this time right now. A lot of people are in a lot of pain whether it be financially emotionally not being able to see family that has passed which is something that people I know are dealing with. There's a lot of pain happening right now amid all of this virus but I'm just consistently overwhelmed at the good that comes out of it with the go fund news that people are doing breaking styles of dollars from people. Don't you know I mean obviously? Don't give a lot if you if you don't have it but people are able to raise a lot of money even in this uncertain time why because people are still striving for good amidst the Bat. And it's really incredible time. You know just prayed that we all come through the situation as best as we can. It's really a difficult time that we don't forget what this experience has taught us either about humanity. Absolutely we are all we have. It's about people helping people and if that stops when trouble yeah true true. Everyone has a part to play completely. All right we'll switching gears. Let's talk about help ruthless. I love your work when replace my friends and I watched the show so wonderful to the aided role as Halley Well it was a surprise. I was just talking to an actor civil actor friends of mine and we were kind of commiserating that everybody. It seems like everybody. Who gets you know that dream job that dream gag that booking where you quote unquote you made it? You know which is serious. Regular is a top of all of our electrical lists So it definitely was surprise but we were commiserating that it seemed like the story behind it as always. I was ready to quit acting. Oh I was just about to quit. And then he came in and all of us are like We wanted to quit like ten million. I mean we didn't book a series regular and it's funny because that was my story to on this one but what we realized is it's because those people got back up. It's not that that was the first time and same with me when I book. It wasn't the first time I had decided or said to myself. No I can't do this anymore. I'm done. This is too challenging. I need to. I have a masters but I said I'm going to go back to school. Get something else that's GonNa make me some. I mean Because of a masters in acting but it just had to do with it just happened to be that time that I said that as opposed to the previous times and the great thing is that I have had those moments and I wasn't that place to where I was very frustrated with my career and that there's a great time span and I don't think actors realized that when we first come into acting that there's these massive gaps between booking right and so you can't base your success in this career off of if you book if you don't book because there's a ton of factors involved so I think the success can be based off of the maintaining relationships as in casting directors calling you back which is what happened with Tyler. Perry so I know the roundabout way but definitely wanted to talk about that. Because I know a lot of actor when they hear people say oh I was at the end of my rope It can be sometimes depressing because they feel like then. Why was it successful for them? But I'm at the end of my rope. It's not successful for me. I believe they were at the end of the roof multiple times that they just decided in some way some how they were going to keep moving keep moving and then eventually Whether they were burned out at the end or eventually whether they were excited at the end Bloomberg care came that opportunity. It was just that they stayed at it with it so I had been auditioning for can Coleman's office UTHA casting director for Tyler. Perry out here in La and he you know him he writes. He's known for work in such a short amount of time so he had several pilots being taxed at the same time and I got called in for one of them for sisters. Actually I got called in for one of the leasing sisters and got a call back and got you know he by the to Atlanta. It's an incredible experience and I came back and heard nothing and that was like the third audition I had done in Coleman's office which again is why those relationships are important. You know Because she kept bringing me back in and then just a week later after I saw that this is this cast and things seem to be like just plugging along with the oval and everything. Well I got a call in for tally. She was a re release of a role and I went in and I. I shouldn't just like every other decision and I love and then two days later I got the phone call agent. Hey they want you to come to Atlanta on Monday. They're going to start filming the oval and I was I was completely floored. Now this is my. This wasn't the series regular. This was a recurring so You know they come in different here. There's regular being the top top. You know but recurring was still my first ever recurring. So yeah I was. I was blown away off of this recurring role but the thing that was crazy about it and this is just I feel the grace of God in my life and what he had. I truly believe what's reused for you and that everybody has their own path as far as Things that everybody has their own journey. And it's GonNa look different but it's GonNa be incredible no matter what so book that I did. My episode eight episodes spend oval as Kali character. And at the end. I am a big. Thank you card person. So I gave Tyler. Perry thank you card. Also he is like always running running running so you got to you. Can't you're not going to necessarily get a second to talk to him so I wrote it down and I said thank you. Today's my day and he shook my hand and he said Oh. But it won't be your last time on that we're going to bring you back and that to me. La- well Mine yes mind. Loan and little. Did I know that he had this other series in his mind again? The man works just. He's a genius. He's really a genius. How he can do all these things at once but he had ruthless already in his mind and so when he created it. He brought me my character. Tally and roof over and did a spinoff series of the overall with as you know now ruthless and my recurring dot transferred right into a series regular. There's nothing but the grace of God like I can't orchestrated account planet is just favor. It was just a massive blessing. A massive blessing. So that's why I feel so like it's so necessary to tell my story because the only reason I would. I was even able to make it to those auditions at that time. Because I failed myself up on those moments when I was done with podcast. Like you're hearing other people make it because everybody has a diversity of different kinds in whatever field going through the bottom line is. Are you going to keep pushing because you have to just believe got? The blessing is on. Its way that lesson is on. Its way it's GonNa get there just beef as coal and it will arrive and it'll be great it will be beyond your wildest dream. Yeah you are basically making history with tyler. Perry being a part of what he's doing. This is the first ever series on the beach. Plus clock on me ask. This is the first original series on bt pluses popcorn so that when you said it was like Lord History. It is show is on hiatus until four thirty. We cannot wait we need to know. The show is absolutely crazy crazy. Yes I know so many people are asking. When does it does it? Come out and we're asking too because we didn't we haven't seen the edited version of it. So we watch the same time you guys watch. So we're anxious to for the thirtieth day here so we can you know what's GonNa Happen Next? He was going to happen with everybody next so and yeah I think the biggest question that everyone has you know they wanna know how it all ties because most people questions asked okay. Well tally that shot on than when will she gets shot Michelle. Everybody's trying to connect the dots. Everyone is trying to connect the dots. I'm like you have to keep watching. You have to. Trust Tyler. Perry's mind it's exciting. He is just. It's a gift and I think I'm just. I'm just grateful her him on speaking along the of people who have really sought after their purpose like I think. That's why I'm so excited for your podcast. Because Tyler Perry had so many dreams connected his you know what I mean like just this year alone. Five hundred thousand people were able to work through his studio. Five hundred thousand employees went through that gate. So that's just this year and he's been doing this for how long and how long if you're gonNA continue so I always have to think on that if I'm basing difficulty or if I'm in challenge how many people's dreams are attached to nine. And how selfish would it be of me to just give up knowing what I know about tyler that he was homeless in his car and kept pushing to get to where he is now to give us all these opportunities you know so being just there is an inspiration on its own just in the facility just the whole studio is an expiration all on its own well thank God. You have been given this wonderful incredible opportunity. You are definitely a superstar after that. No you need to call my mom and he will let us know she's not yet. Yeah Yeah Blonde Maistre. We're humble and kind of bottom line. No matter how many screens get on because it is the goal right the same Mix for a wonderful platform to do good. So I'm not denying it. I do Welcome it but that platform. We better be used for good because a lot of people help the guy here absolutely worship people find you want social media and what's your website. Yes thankfully it's all the same name once you get the spelling right. You're Golden If Yvonne why these Victor Oh and as a Nancy and Nancy E. Yvonne and my last name and so it patient that got a silent. T. Hiding out there. So I tell everybody. Spell it like Senate of the House and take the off so S. E. N. A. T. Yvonne And you put that as handle. My website is Yvonne to not just at Jones at the end. 'cause I'm married and that's how you can find my website. So Yvonne Sonam Joan the links to your vons website in social media handles will be included in a description of this episode so you can catch Rufus on bt plus the at an all new episode airs every Thursday and we will be watching all right. Thank you me I appreciate you. Doing that. Problem is my honor is not honor. Thank you for having something like this for us. 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#4 - Yvonne Lang, CIRCL

#M�llistMist - der Podcast

00:00 sec | 6 months ago

#4 - Yvonne Lang, CIRCL

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Crosspost: NATAL - Five: Marilyn and Yvonne's Stories

You Had Me At Black

00:00 sec | 3 months ago

Crosspost: NATAL - Five: Marilyn and Yvonne's Stories

"Hey welcome to you had me at black I'm. Martina. Abraham's Olonga. If feels so good to be back behind the microphone and sharing stories with you all and I am so excited to introduce you to natal. It's a podcast Docu series about having a baby wall black you know black maternal and perinatal health is something that is very important to me personally and the entire you had me out black team. So we produce natal in partnership with the Woodshop and with support from the USC Annenberg Center for Health Journalism in the economic hardship reporting project. You can subscribe to needle today wherever you get your podcast to hear new episodes every other Wednesday and don't worry. We'll play them off right back here on you had me black without further ado here is natal. Hainault FAM. I'm Co host Martina Abraham's Ilunga before I dive in just a heads up at beside deals with the trauma of pregnancy loss. In the pre lewd I alluded to the challenges, my mother faced with me and each one of my siblings this episode, I'm going to share one of her stories and the story of another woman Yvonne mccombs. Their experiences reflects the joys of becoming pregnant and also the complications that can accompany bearing end result in pregnancy loss. The sorrow of losing a baby during pregnancy is something that many don't talk about. In this episode, we honor those experiences and highlight the resiliency and faith of black bathing parent who will to bring new life into the world. relisting to NATO, you're listening to, NATO you are listening to natal listening to NATO a podcast about having a baby having baby having a baby while black lab. My Mom's name is Marilyn and she is a fierce Caribbean mother. She strict. You know the Typos got her eye on. You need snow where you're going and when you're coming back or maybe won't let you leave home at. But she's also incredibly supportive she'll tell you to dream big the sky's the limit. Put Your faith in God and you can do anything. She gave birth to me then my two sisters Brittany and Brianna and finally my brother. John's. But she only went on to raise three of us. We all know our birth stories because each year on the day or so leading up to our individual birthdays she cost. Tell us exactly what she was doing at that exact moment she could feel us arriving. Marteen receive your mom carling. Ram Sitting here reminiscing on thirty years ago today I was getting ready to welcome you into the world. I was so excited. vacuumed has are getting the house, Ready House folding clothes? I. Just made sure the health look perfect of my mom's calm. Everything was beautiful waiting for you. I was so excited. I never thought he'd be on time I was hoping you'd be on time since your entire came on your date. Warning when I woke up and I started feeling. Of being called Arthur and they said to commune by the time we got to the hospital. That's when the contract cj we came strong. I was ready in my mind the what I was about to undergo. contractually for heavy construction will hard. Watching I couldn't wait to see you. When we did finally come. cutest thing. Wanting. Chocolate, souffle share it was literally. One of the best days of my life. Anyway. I. Review. By. My Mom's an open book. She doesn't sugarcoat anything as much as I've heard the happy part of our breathing stories I've also heard about the things that went wrong and many things did. We already know that for black parents pregnancy and birth outcomes are hugely influenced by genetics and pre existing conditions. The parental care parents receive and the stress that they endure just living as a black person in America. For a long time I thought, my mom's experiences were just a series of unfortunate events. Truly I thought she was just unlucky. It turns out she's actually part of a bigger trend of black women who experienced pregnancy loss at higher rates than White Women Hello my name is Marilyn Abraham's are Martinez Mom, and this is my needle story. Well I'm a planner. And I had Martinez. Martino was two years old at the time and I wanted to space each baby outta wanted three children and I wanted them two years apart, and that's how I wanted my life to be. My mom leaves nothing to chance me and all my siblings were part of her plan to her three was the perfect number. In Nineteen ninety-two at twenty, nine years old she and my dad tried for baby number two but she had a miscarriage in the first trimester. So I turned to my doctor and I said, how long do I have to wait to try again and the doctor says you have to you should give yourself at least three months. So, when my husband and I get in the car in the parking lot I turned to him I said I am not waiting three months. We'll conceive immediately because. I felt that all I wanted to do is just try again and stay the course and that wasn't gonNA change the miscarriage wasn't gonNA change my mind. So I just kept moving I think every woman. Is Different and you go through your own feelings and emotions for me it was. Let's do this again, I'll come back to my mom story. Let's get into Yvonne's now Yvonne mccombs is the other parent I mentioned at the top of the episode. She is also a planner her story takes place in California. I am a wife I'm a mother. I am a sister, I'm a friend. And most of law, I am a woman of faith. Yes I absolutely desire to have kids I wanted to be married I because I grew up in a Christian household. So that was the plan I would travel the World I. Get married and have children. So when I found out that I was pregnant at first, it was a shock. Because I was having. Sex outside of marriage. At twenty three years old being pregnant out of wedlock was definitely not in the plan but four years later she was married and ready to give her daughter a sibling. When got pregnant again she was thrilled she even invited her mom and sisters to meet the baby at one of her prenatal visits. I used to work at a pregnancy research center and they were going to give a free ultrasound. So I went to the ultrasound in the hook mantle machine, and then they're trying to locate the heartbeat. And everyone's waiting anxiously Mike 'cause they're they're excited. I'm friends with the people. Everyone's in the room with me and the baby is lifeless. The medical staff couldn't detect the baby's heartbeat with her family until Yvonne rushed to the emergency room on the way there she prayed and prayed for her baby wentz in the ER doctors checked for the baby's heartbeat again. So they had me in a room I'm in the room with other. MOMS in their hooked up to the doctors and I can hear other baby's heartbeat and I can hear MOMS complaining about being pregnant and I can hear women just some are about to go into labor and I'm in the same room and they're saying, I'm sorry but there's no heartbe. Monitor von for a little while longer in case, the status of the baby changed they told her, she could go home in the meantime. Yvonne agreed thinking this with normal protocol two weeks by and that's what I start feeling the pain in my back and stomach but I thought it was gassed. So I get up to go use the restroom my water breaks. which is weird because when I look everywhere, it's like, Kinda Green. So mom took me to the hospital my husband he said he could not come because he had to work the next day. No one ever told me about the signs of miscarriage. No one ever told me what was bad to make you call your Obgyn. pain in the waiting room at the community hospital in no one seemed to mind no staff seem to mind and I'm waiting and waiting trying to get comfortable in the room, and so I tell my mom I said Mommy I need to go to the restroom I think the baby has come out. We go to the restroom and she helps me and I see my baby on a pet. In I hate see my mom cry and I know she tried her best not to let the tears come out of her eyes but. She seen. Her Grand Baby on that pad. Yvonne was experiencing miscarriage at four months. Miscarriage or early pregnancy loss is the spontaneous loss of pregnancy before twenty weeks. When a baby dies anytime after twenty weeks in the womb, it classified as a stillborn. Aka a sleeping baby. Okay. This is going to be a lot but stay with me. According to the National Institutes for health or NIH. Ten to fifteen percent of pregnancies end early pregnancy loss. Unfortunately, there isn't much research or data on the impact racial disparities have on miscarriages. Still the NIH estimates that black women are up to two times as likely to suffer miscarriages and early pregnancy loss been women of any other race. Howard birth parent experiences miscarriage also varies. Some parents miscarry without any symptoms. They don't even realize happen until it happens. For others it's easy to mistake in early pregnancy loss for a heavy period. Symptoms. Might include fatigue cramps or pain in the back tummy or public areas. This is a bit graphic but apparent closer to the twenty week mark might even pass certain fluids blood clots tissue that looks like a fetus when some cases even a fully formed baby. The factors that cause pregnancy loss berry. There could be chromosomal issues. Complications with the breathing parents, cervix or uterus fibroids or infections such as is. Yvonne. Didn't know why she was miscarrying. And the staff at the hospital did nothing to console her. So I went in I told them. My baby came out. They say, Oh, just put it in a specimen up and I'm like are you serious that that's all I'm starting to feel lightheaded now I'm losing blood and they tell me Oh, just sit here in the hallway to will. Headed by this time on Mama's getting mad because she's like, how dare you guys just dismiss her nasty lost her baby and then you guys tell her to put the baby in a cup. Now she's getting lightheaded and I believe a blackout because I don't remember anything else from like me getting moved to a different room. Later on I'm in a different room I have to put on the gown everything I stand up ms left down on the floor. Somewhat okay. This is not the best night for me the Placenta, the organ attached to the lining of the uterus regulates blood supply between baby and parent. During pregnancy it also has to be delivered to I guess in that moment. I. Just let got I still believe I don't know what you're doing, but I have to hone believe that you're working out for good as crazy as that may sound after all that the doctor cleared Yvonne to go home Dane structured her to follow up with her Obgyn at his office as soon as possible among takes me to the doctor. She has my daughter at the time she's three so she can't come with me inside the exam room. So. Then my doctor says, you have some fetal tissue still any so I have to pull it out. By the time he's pulling like this is hurting me as pulling and tugging. He's I have to get it out because we don't get out it's going to be infection and his wife worked with them. So she's holding my hand as a make him stop like this hurts and he was he was very very they will. You can get sick. So let me get it out when fetal tissue lingers inside the uterus Ma lead to an infection or heavy bleeding the procedure parents like Yvonne have to undergo to remove the tissue is one that the NIH describes his highly invasive. Recommend doctors administer anesthesia to the patient in advance Yvonne's Dr did not. Once the procedure was done. Yvonne was advised to take medicine for her pain and told she could go home. She later filed a grievance on him. But she moved and never followed up. In addition to offering Yvonne Anesthesia in the very beginning, her doctor should have been more responsive to her pain. He should've explained to her what he was about to do before. He did it. You should have explained why he was going to do what he was going to do in the first place. When she complained about the pain and begged him to stop. He should've stopped and given her anesthesia. And maybe hard to believe. But despite all the humiliation pain and trauma she stomached. Yvonne. Was In for more bad news. A week later her obgyn called and told her she tested positive for. Her husband had been unfaithful caught gonorrhea unbeknownst to Yvonne passed it onto her. The STI caused her to miscarry. That explains the green fluid that caught her by surprise. Still Yvonne new. This miscarriage wasn't the end of her pregnancy journey. She knew she would eventually try again. After all that second baby was part of her plan. Throughout the season we're highlighting different. At, explore various facets of the Blackburn experience in the black millennial marriage podcasts, parents, Mikey, and Randy Chapman give you an uncensored look into their ten plus years of relationship experience. The couple dishes on the grimy Raunchy good bad ugly and joyful parts of relationships. This podcast was created out of their desire to representation to meet other couples enter provide a space to talk about all that learning on learning and loving about marriage. Subscribe to the black millennial marriage podcast on the dominant sound networks or wherever you get your podcasts. For people looking to conceive again after having a miscarriage. There is hope. It's really up to the parents and their doctor to determine when it's safe to try again. The Mayo Clinic is a national nonprofit and Medical Research Center. According to them generally speaking, you can get pregnant again as early as two weeks after early pregnancy loss. And a study conducted in two thousand sixteen the NIH found that parents who tried to conceive within three months miscarrying were just as likely and in some cases, more likely to successfully get pregnant than those who waited three months or more. My mom was one of those parents who conceived quickly after miscarrying. Conceiving Britney. Was a surprise we're in the process of moving there was a lot going on. So it all happened so fast. I felt blessed to be pregnant again, this pregnancy was this a little different than my first pregnancy and I say that to say I was gaining weight rapidly when I went to the doctor, the doctor says, okay, everything's good. You know you gain ten pounds in one month so you want to slow down. So every single month I will go to the doctor and the doctor says you gain another ten pounds. This is not good. You know you still have many more months to go and I'm saying okay thinking to myself. I'm not. I can't change anything if I'm hungry hungry I was like a bottomless pit always hungry. So now fast forward to September and the doctor wanted to have an ultrasound because I was gaining so much weight. So here we are and the during the ultrasound the technician says oh I See Baby A. And I, see baby be. I was really surprised that was one of the happiest days of my life. Yeah. My mom was so excited she was having twins. Suffering miscarriage in now being told that you're carrying twins is a gift from God. You feel like God has given me the baby that I lost. So I was elated it was a gift I felt so much. Choi but as I felt this joy. My husband was devastated. He's like twins. What are we GONNA do with twins? He did not share in my joy in my enthusiastic feeling I remember. I couldn't tell my mom on the phone. So I drove an hour and a half to her job just to tell her in person it was very exciting where mom was elated we were so happy and I continue gaining ten pounds every single month I didn't change and now the doctor felt like now I had an excuse so it was no longer. Patient that's in his mind overeating I had. Another ultrasound scheduled for November at right after Thanksgiving in. So that's when they noticed that one of the babies had fluid in the belly. So that was baby because I was pregnant with twins they sent me to a high risk facility, and so when I went to the high risk facility, they tax me to all the machines and they're doing another ultrasound and they realized both babies were sick. Now I was told that baby a had a heart condition. The right ventricle never developed and baby B. has fluid in the belly. After the shattering miscarriage I know my mom was scared about the possibility of losing one or both babies. The issue with baby's belly with a symptom hydroxy Tallus a rare condition where fluid buildup in the lungs heart stomach or abdomen. Research by the University of Rochester Medical Center suggests unborn babies who suffer from high drops. Fatalities have a fifty fifty chance of surviving pregnancy. ASK FOR BABY A. The doctor said she would need heart surgery right after birth. Once, we found out that both of these were sick. They didn't let me go home I was admitted into the hospital right than there. So. Now we're in December the twins due date was February seventeenth. They knew I was going to give birth sooner than I was supposed to. We don't know when I'm GonNa give birth and just just to be on the safe side. Kept me. My Dad worked eighty hours a week in New York City forty five minutes away from the hospital and Valhalla new. York because of the logistics, he could only visit my mom on weekends. She spent most of the time alone. I believe in God. And I just kept praying I just relied on my faith I I just prayed that even if the babies are sick But there will be something that they can do for them the cardiac. That was our doctor. He was so amazing. He was warm. He was friendly. Wise educational he he really gave us a lot of tools things to hold onto. that. Baby a was going to be okay. So I'm thinking to myself this is a blessing from God that this is happening. Now when there's medicine is where it is and there's a cure. Everybody was always hopeful. There was never any doubters the support that I had I felt good with. Love Around me and support and we will always hopeful. So I held onto that hope and that faith and that's what carried me through. The first few days in the hospital were uneventful her medical team established a routine daily monitoring ultrasound steroid shots to strengthen baby's heart on the sixth day a nurse bided an issue in her ultrasound. So I'm I'm laying there technicians doing my daily ultrasound just to make sure babies are doing. Okay. Nothing's changed from the day before and the technician runs out of the room at some point she comes back and I said to her what's the matter and she says baby is in trouble. This is the baby with the fluid belly. So now I'm looking at the Monitor and she goes you're GONNA have to make a decision because you're going to have to give birth right away. And I said to her make a decision for what she says baby is in trouble and we're going to need to know what your plans are. I said I can't make that decision. My husband is not here. If I give birth now I'm saving baby be but baby won't live because she's still too young to withstand the surgery sheets she'll need. So now laying there crying, telling her, how can I make that decision? How can I choose from one to another baby and I'm looking At the monitor she says, I think God is making this decision for you and I'm watching. Baby Be. Take. Her last occur. You can see that her heart is just slowing down minute by minute by minute until she's not an no more heartbeat. So the woman says to me I'm really sorry but you know you lost baby. That was a sad day that was difficult. But you know my faith kicked in and I figured you know what? This is science there is a higher God, and so they might be wrong. This baby might be okay I know what I saw on the screen, but I couldn't I couldn't process that I couldn't allow that to sit in me. That reality to live in me. So I just said, you know I'm just going to focus on my prayer and I'm going to believe that God is GonNa fix this. It's something else. It's cared our people through centuries of trials and tribulation. It's carried my mom, her own pizza and valleys. And for you von. It was the core of her determination. To eleven comes I'm pregnant excited. Everyone's rejoicing with me because they're like, yeah, guys GonNa bus you because first miscarriage you weren't supposed to have because your ex husband was cheating on you still got Zack GonNa West any mess. So we're all excited, we're getting names together they're. Starting to bleed. So I rushed to the hospital. I call the hospital along the way in they said, he had just put your feet up definitely come in to get checked out to make sure everything is okay and then a Monday exam table in she says, I'm trying to locate the heartbreak and I said, Oh, we'll go to the left because usually the baby. Likes to be on the left side, and we not laugh as she goes to the left and she said, let me bring in specialists. You can definitely locate the Harbi she brings in the specialist in both look at me and say, you don't have to tell me I already know and the baby was dead in and they said, I'm sorry but we can't locate heartbeat. In lit that my then husband and my daughter, my daughter. Gas in hosts her chest, and she just start crying that broke me because she was the only child and I know she really wanted a sibling at that time I could not give her that and so out. I cried and cried and cried. And so they had action. What did I want to do? They said that I wanna go home or give birth but by then my body had already started to go into active labour. So I had to deliver a dead baby in although the nurses and staff were very supportive to deliver a dead babies so much harder to the been delivering a live baby because you can't take that baby home, you can't. Go. Look at the baby in the nursery, it's just lifeless and so I went to the Labor and the baby was out in. They asked me did I want to Jessica Been I was like, no. Because at this point I'm like I'm mad because this is the second miscarriage that have you gave us the command to be fruitful a multiply in genesis from the beginning, and here I am giving birth to death. Event pregnancy had made it to five months. The hospital provided her social worker who asked if she wanted to give the a memorial? She did not want to put her husband and his family were adamant. I was just angry. I didn't WanNa do anything and so they forced me into doing it. They got a build a bear. It was a blue bill to bear and they had cremated the baby and put the remains in the bear and to me that's just my opinion. It was just so weird like what am I going to do with this bill to bear is not my baby the why do you guys want me to carry this bear? Leaning interface she tried again once more another loss followed. And then another and then another. Over A seven-year period Yvonne experienced seven consecutive miscarriages. Each one was a new emotional, scar each one created new grief each one she more. To the fourteen I actually has started to get testing because after three miscarriages I learned that they automatically start testing to see what is the cause of miscarriage. One of Yvonne's doctors told her it's not you. It's your husband Yvonne thought the doctor was joking, but he's like, no, like, okay genetic testing because you have a daughter before there's something not right with his jeans. Yvonne and her husband never got that genetic test. Their marriage was already on the rocks. For other reasons, the miscarriages didn't help. Eventually they got divorced a year of single them. Later, Yvonne reconnected with a childhood friend the eventually got married and shortly after Lo and behold Yvonne found out she was pregnant again, we got married December second two, thousand seventeen and I just knew. In was so overjoyed become like up after all the loss that have been through I know for shore. This is GONNA be right. Finally, be able to give my daughter a sibling. Yvonne went to doctor for an ultrasound. She left carrying the emotional weight of an eighth miscarriage. This time, the baby did not develop. So at around a belief six to nine weeks, they said, it just stopped developing. So at the end of the day. Nature have been taken. This course I was bleeding and the baby had come out at the hospital I say got something. is off I don't know if it's off me spiritually naturally but I don't believe that you made me to birth death I would not accept that and people would say, well, you're young you can have more you can adapt asset got. No that's not my purpose implant. I can accept it. I had a dream longtime ago. That got you gave me for a boy and a girl. So I'M GONNA keep on praying for a boy and a girl and so physically imagine God wrapping his arms around me and me just free falling backwards into his huge hand like I imagine a really big hand catching me an ESA I don't what you're doing I do not believe this is my in. So God, I'm going to keep have a faith and I'm going to keep pushing. Speaking of holding onto a dream two weeks after losing baby and being admitted long-term into the hospital, my mother was still holding onto her own dream that both babies would be alive. Her doctors were focused on making sure the surviving baby advanced as long as possible through the pregnancy despite the heart condition. This meant my mom would have to go into Labor naturally, it was two months before her due date. She will baby eight to stay alive and she willed herself to be well enough to go home to celebrate Christmas with me and my dad. I pushed to go home because Martinez was two years. Old Martino was missing her mommy and it was important that I'm home during that time especially for Martina so there was no question. So it was like, okay, I'm GONNA I'm GonNa take that chance. I'M GONNA go home instead of being in the hospital I, felt safe. You know the doctors was still monitoring me but I was home for. Like three days and then I went into Labor it was about three o'clock in the morning New Year's Eve I go into Labor, go to the hospital and. Because, baby a heart condition there were I wasn't allowed to have epidurals or any type of pain medication. They gave me sensitives just to kind of relax me just to keep me from panicking. It was a lot. It was it was a lot. You don't know what to expect is my baby severely still alive is the baby really not alive. You know it was a lot of stress just a lot of emotions a lot of crying a lot of hopeful tears a lot of sad tears a lot of. A lot of pain but everyone around me was warm. The nurses were good leading up to that. What was devastating is once I went into Labor because it was New Year's Eve. My doctor was not there. I did not know that they did not prepare me that because it's holiday you giving birth during a holiday you're gonNA get a doctor that you don't know that snap familiar to me, and this particular doctor was very cold just very matter of fat I. I had a female doctor might choice. This doctor that I was given that was on call was a mailed offer. So that was a problem right off the bat I was in Labor for twenty miles. So, right. So baby came out first and she was dead baby came out a half an hour later. On January first nineteen ninety-three. My mom gave birth to twin little sisters, Brittany Murray, and Briana. Murray. Briana was sleeping baby. Because she had been in the womb for so long, her Placenta had already started to disintegrate. Same as with. Some of the placenta remained inside. The doctor. Let my mom know right away. So he says. Baby's Placenta didn't come out all the way parts of it is still inside me and he says, and I'm GonNa have to manually take it out and I said to him. Well, how you GonNa do that and he says I'm going to have to hand inside you in, take it up as well. That sounds painful. That's going to hurt he says, yeah, it's GonNa hurt and I said you're not. You're not gonNA give me painkillers before you do this. This is okay I'll give you painkillers. So they gave me a shot. And I. Tell You no lie. He did not wait for the shot to take effect. They gave me a shot and this doctor went right in I. Hollered I did not scream giving birth to these two babies. But when he did that I think the whole hospital heard me, scream I, literally felt all five of his fingers in my uterus walls I. Felt it. 'cause it was like a scraping. It was so painful. He showed me no care. It was just about like just getting done. My heart rakes from my mom every time she re tells the story I get. So angry at this doctor for how he handled her especially after all the agony leading up to this point my mom recently told me that it took years for her to physically he'll let alone mentally heal from how the doctor extracted Placenta after that painful ordeal in Brittany having to spend time in Nick You, my parents held Brianna then prepare to bid her farewell. Desk you ready ready. I wasn't ready. It took us about an hour. It was hard. You just do what you have to do. You know you have to give her up and you know what? She's going to the Morgan. It was difficult it. It's almost like an out of body reaction you just. Your heart is so heavy you hardest. So broken I had lost his baby but I was also very hopeful for baby a at least God I still had one I didn't lose both. So that gave me strength. Yes. My mom was fortunate at one of her baby survived, but that's not always the case for other parents in similar situations even the pregnancy and childbirth are very intimate for many black parents their communal events, family friends even coworkers excited to welcome a new baby went they're born. That expectation can add to the heart of pregnant. By. Two thousand eighteen. Yvonne heck suffered eight losses miscarriages, her friends and family started to doubt if she should keep trying. Some even suggested that maybe it wasn't in God's plan for her to have another child. It probably seems strange or impossible to think that there could be a silver lining in types of experiences but she was newly married with renewed faith. She just knew she would be blessed with another child and October I find out I'm pregnant in in December, two, thousand, eighteen I get my ultrasound and my doctor she does the doppler she's like Oh. Yes. Good. Strong heartbeat she connected me to the ultrasound. She shows me one baby baby is very healthy hit gang and then she says, wait a minute I. See two babies em my husband like what what do you see? Two issues said there is two heartbeats as she showed us and Lo and behold I was pregnant with twins I went immediately back together because he was always my source as got two babies to be pregnant to babies you cannot. You cannot have me lose the babies because. You have me before everyone else has if power to lose these babies is not only gonNA mess with my faith but now everybody's watching my story guy, you're gonNA look like. A liar and people don't think some type way about you become like this. I it's a blessing to have a baby, but to have twins A. Double Blessing. So said, guys Charlene. This has to be the right time after having. Eight miscarriages this this has to be right. So I wish I can say my whole cranky journey was without any fear but actually my career at that time had to be God please turn my fear into faith this time with the stakes doubly hi, Yvonne suffered intense about Living Zaidi, but the twins continued to grow through the first trimester. Then the second and before she knew it, she was at the end of her third trimester. June. Two thousand in nineteen I went into Labor my water broke this time. I was just overcome with piece. I didn't feel was GONNA go wrong I just at that time needed to see the thing. Both of her babies were breached meaning they were positioned in the womb with their heads facing up in their feet facing down towards the vaginal canal, her doctors informed her she'd have to have a C. section on the operating table on numbed up Yvonne. Felt a lot of tugging pulling and then finally the moment she had been waiting for for ten years. On June Eleventh Two Thousand Nineteen Yvonne and her husband welcomed twins, Adriana and Jeremiah their what's called rainbow babies are healthy babies born after pregnancy loss. And so Adrian crying and ends, of course, I'm crying come like thank you Jesus. Thank you Jesus. Okay I, hear her. Baby be he's out he doesn't cry. Like nope, there will be no doubt. No worry as a guy's not gonna, bring me all the way here. Just let something be wrong and they right after I said that then I heard the I think he was the respiratory doctor. He said good boy good boy. It didn't I hear my son crying advantages. Thank God in I'm crying my husband is thinking guys or prison. God. While I'm on the operating table today Adriana and Jeremiah are active. Their family complete Yvonne has shifted her focus to helping other parents who've experienced pregnancy loss as an author and Bereavement Dula. Bereavement Dulas work with families who experienced pregnancy or infant loss. They are specialized birth workers. You oftentimes join medical appointments, attend deliveries and support parents for a period after birth. Live is more about serving than it is for yourself. By me experience lost, it has opened up so many doors to connect with beautiful people and to help them to grieve our help them to have a shoulder to cry on sometimes just being present with someone is what someone needs to be able to grieve properly are to know that it's okay and I love share my story especially as a black woman to other black moms by the work that I'm doing training to be a bereavement Dula and being author to help others. I feel that that is bringing words. My mom that was agreed on. She definitely could have benefited from the care of a Bereavement Dula or even therapy or small groups that provide support for parents who've lost their babies during pregnancy you know it was very hard. I was angry at God. I couldn't pray at that time I was devastated. It was like I was led down by. God. So healing was difficult because I felt like I was my faith did not. Carry. Me Through this the way I thought it was going to happen I had to act forgiveness at some point I I knew I was wrong for being angry God. I. Knew I needed to start praying again believing again, and that is that really transformed my faith I no longer have expectations because of what I went through I pray differently I I say in God's will I live in his will. Therapies a thing today back then no one's telling you therapy no doctor cell therapy so I never went to therapy. Having Britney in my arms and having Martina and my faith in my prayer and my mom was extremely supportive. It. And of course, you know my belief is one day. I'll see run again. Guy Wanted Angel. That's where my healing I think began when I was able to say to myself. You know what? My baby is an angel in. Heaven. Today Brittany is a grown healthy twenty seven year old. She's also my best friend. My Mom's original plan was three kids. Each spaced two years apart. Finding the strength to try once more for her third child took time though. Three years later in nineteen, ninety six. She and my dad welcome into the world younger brother Joshua. With me, Brittany Joshua and my parents in the sense, our family was nearly complete. Brianna wasn't physically there. But she wasn't spirit. We never celebrated her birthday with Britney where we did talk about her. We imagined what she might have been. or how she in Brittany might have related. US. Twin. Even. Though Brianna isn't with her Brittany still identifies. Just. One waiting to meet her sister again. Whether they go on to have other children are not many parents who encounter losing a baby say traumatic experience. Months even years later, the emotions may continue to linger. While, my mom Yvonne and other black parents are connected to their pregnancy losses. The circumstances leading up to each of these moments are unique. person of faith or not to bring life into this world and to raise a child emit especially a black child is an act of fate visas stink and bravery. So port can come from anyone at anytime along this journey. Perhaps, you'll be the support of black writing parents in your life. You may or may not have children. Maybe, you love and care about someone who is a wealthy. Either way it takes abilities. Thanks for listening and being a part of naval. Natal Collab- between you had me at black and the would shaw subscribed rate and leave a review wherever you get your podcast visit needle stories, dot com for exclusive content like our community blog and resource hub and donate tar production fund. While you're there, be sure to follow us on instagram and twitter at needle stories and enjoying the NATO group on facebook. 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Episode 451: From Grower to Designer to Consumer: How two floral models are changing and adapting, with Yvonne Ashton of Mayesh Wholesale Florist and Molly Culver of Molly Oliver Flowers

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Episode 451: From Grower to Designer to Consumer: How two floral models are changing and adapting, with Yvonne Ashton of Mayesh Wholesale Florist and Molly Culver of Molly Oliver Flowers

"Hello again and welcome back to the slow flowers. Podcast with Deborah Printing episode. Four hundred and fifty one. This is the weekly podcast about American flowers and the people who grow and to sign with them. It's all about making a conscious choice and I invite you to join the conversation and the creative community as we discussed the vital topics of saving our domestic flower farms and supporting if floral industry that relies on a safe seasonal and local supply of flowers and foliage. This podcast is brought to you by slow. Flowers DOT com the free nationwide online directory to florist shops in studios who designed with American grown flowers and to the farms that grow those blues his the conscious choice for buying and sending flowers. And thank you to Florus Review magazine. I'm delighted to serve contributing editor for slow flowers journal found in the pages of florist review. You can also read our stories at slow flowers. Journal Dot Com our first sponsor. Thanks goes too long fields gardens which provides home Gardner's with high quality flower bulbs and perennials. Their online store offers plants for every region and every season from tulips and daffodils to Dahlia's caladiums and Amarillo. Check out the full catalog at Long Field. Dash GARDEN DOT com. Today we have two guests who will be sharing their stories from different parts of the floral equation and both are hugely relevant to our stories of resilience. Ceres I believe that now. More than ever. The message of sustainability and seasonal and locally available flowers is top of mind among consumers flower farmers and floors. I want the slow flowers. Podcast to be a companion to those of you in isolation away from your physical community appears neighbors customers and friends. I don't have any answers but we can share stories with one another and I believe this is a powerful way to sustain ourselves. I'm an eager to learn ways that wholesale florist are managing also wanted to hear how wedding and event Florus are re-shaping their businesses. My recently recorded conversations. With today's guests will illuminate those questions for all of us I up. We'll hear from Yvonne Ashton Director of marketing at Nash Wholesale Florist and that will be followed by a conversation with Molly culver a Brooklyn based wedding and event florist and owner of Molly Oliver Flowers. Here's a bit more about Yvonne Ashton at eighteen years old. Yvonne had no idea what she wanted to be when she grew up however she did know that she loved business and decided to go to school to get a degree in operations management and business statistics she felt a bit like goldilocks after graduating and tried several different careers but none of them felt just right over eleven years ago. Yvonne began her career in marketing with Mesh Wholesale. Florist and boy. Did that seem to be the right fit integrating her nerdy degree? Entrepreneurial Experience Passion for flowers and design and a need to continuously learn. Yvonne found her place in the world of marketing whether serving on the Marketing Committee for the Wholesale Florist and Flora Supplier Association also known as Lupita or hosting her life show mornings with Mash. Yvonne is always eager to share her love for marketing and her commitment to the floral industry. Yvonne is the wife of Che's Miami Branch Manager. The mother of two amazing girls owner of a Sharpei and a true soccer mom through and through. If she isn't in her Home Office then you'll most likely find her on the soccer fields cheering in creating video content for her daughter's instagram. And here's a bit more about molly. Culver supporting local farmers small-farm economies regional food and watersheds and social justice initiatives have been Mali's defining passions. She trained as an organic farmer in her early twenties and worked as a vegetable and flower farmer an educator for ten years both in New York and in California floral design. Work is a natural extension of Mali's urged to create her reverence for the natural world and her love of hands on teamwork that employs the whole body and all the senses she launched Molly Oliver Flowers. In Two thousand twelve to support regional flower growers and to build a floral design business that approached events with a zero waste mindset throughout Mali's most beloved life experiences. The connective tissue has always been people and plants at the core. She cares deeply about equity inclusion sustainability and loving kindness and she aims for these values to service. A foundation for her business would not designing flowers. You can find molly. Teaching Soil Science at the Brooklyn Botanic Garden cooking with friends doing something outside or squeezing her to adorable cats her work as a farmer farmer. Florist and slow. Flowers advocate has been featured in bust magazine. The New York Times. Well wed modern farmer. Magazine Brides magazine. The slow flowers. Podcast Radio Cherry bomb and Florus review and more. So let's jump right in here from Yvonne and Molly back to back. I know there are some great takeaways that will help and encourage you so let's get started. Welcome back to the slow flowers. Podcast with JEP rinsing and I'm really excited today to have a new voice coming to us. It's Yvonne Ashton of MIS wholesale florist. Yvonne is the Director of marketing. And she's coming to us over skype from her home in Miami Florida. Hi Yvonne Right Debra. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so glad that That I asked him. You said yes. I've had you on my mind of course ever since the crisis of the corona virus has has shook all of us and I think there's a lot of a lot of things you can address that might might provide insight to this little flowers community and also anybody who listens to this. Podcast is in the floral space. Can you just give us a snapshot of May Ash Pre Cova da? And then maybe like we can start following a time line of what what you've been through in the last six weeks sure and and you have been on. My mind is was as not just everyone on the issue. Anyone that I know I just my heart is breaking for everyone because this is you know this is our livelihood and creek coveted manish so Flores in we were doing great we. We've been really working on our website and commerce and all that stuff. We've had so many projects going on. We were actually getting ready to launch a new project. I was getting ready to take a big group of US over to the Netherlands for our second international workshop. Experience and things were looking great. We thought twenty twenty was going to be amazing. I was looking forward to it and then about a month out before everything really crashed here in the US. I started getting really nervous about the corona virus cope in nineteen and taking people overseas in getting stuck in quarantine getting sick and and what the implications for all these people small businesses. It was honestly a huge stressor. We have like meetings every day with Patrick in my in Alabama team in it was. It was crazy in end. I wish I could go back in. That could be like our main stress. What are we doing about this workshop? We were just worried about the workshop. We had no idea that it was what was going to happen. A month later where everything to a screeching hall. All of the weddings and events were being canceled. Her per postponed and our branches. Were throwing out. You know thousands and thousands of dollars of flowers giving away throwing it out. you know whatever we could do because we also had to for low. Most of our team. They went down to ninety percent at one time was furloughed and so yeah the crisis really hit us. Really really hard and Nope but now things are looking up. We've always had full all throughout this. We don't have a crystal ball knows have been through anything like this ever before And so it's just it's it's We feel good. You know trying to get ready for mother's Day sir. Our customers your mother's Day right around the corner and we were very feel hopeful because you know we are getting orders in 'em people are doing business and it's not the business that it was before but it is something so we're like around Up till about sixteen over nineteen branches that are like going to be reopened by at least on Monday. We had a bunch this week reopened in. We HAVE LA market which is a big deal. They're reopening of Hyundai is well. Yeah I've noticed some of the announcements on Instagram and then I've noticed the response and the comments like people are just cheering the fact that their branch might have flowers really this week or next week. I have goosebumps just like any. Just got him now. It's just it's amazing in it's so like Hopeful in again. We're not it's not like we have all these orders coming in it's crazy But it it's something dial in the what was crazy this week. I have to say as we put out You know we had Kelly. Gerardo are lax in she does. He's beautiful polls in economy as polls in recent Anita Hill out ended social media and it was insane. The response I. They couldn't even keep up. Brian in charity have been handling a lot of those orders. Brian by the way as my husband variety the L. ME. A I that I'm just I'm talking to people in Europe and It's a charity day. They just were working all day. Treaty stayed up to like one thirty in the morning and Brian got up at like three in the morning. They like tag team that we could look sleep a little bit just to get through all the orders for Elliot. So it was. It was crazy so that part is just amazing and it just makes everyone feel so good. That's so affirming so talk a little bit about that so year. How many was it like two weeks where you were dark and didn't just didn't weren't able to sell flowers and then you kind of came back through the La lax program. Yeah I think it was like a week or two weeks I think again. None of this has ever happened before. And from our management team for the Tried to make the best decisions that they could anything they did. Right by the whole company they needed to protect their assets. You need to protect the company and so we went on for a little bit and and then we. It's a very fluid thing they are. We call them the Sergey Belov our corporate management. They need constantly in. They're talking about the changes in you know what they're seeing every week and they're just always making changes in so It's hard for big company like us in in just trying to be flexible like that. But I think we're doing a really great job in trying to determine what's going on in all the markets and responding to that the best way that we can. I watched the very first conversation that you when you hosted Pat Dawson your CEO on mornings with May ash. And I think that was maybe four or five weeks ago but I- harshest broke for you because there were so many questions and pat in most of them he had to just say we don't know because there were so many Regulatory limits at that point for anybody on the floor floral space that that hadn't been worked out. It wasn't like you. You were avoiding answering them. You just simply didn't know an inner still things that we don't know you know like yeah you mentioned we've opened up. Lax and then. We went into opening up our Nash. Direct box out of line. Yemi Nola nola floor inventory boxes that are getting shipped on no contact and Yet we just. We didn't we didn't know any of the answer is and also on the other end. Were like trying to fight to be able to do. No contact business like a lot of other. Businesses are doing for example restaurants and things like that and We it was. You know another fight for us like known as talking about an industry known as talking. About if you're not allow lean wholesalers in in Florida to do business than even though flower farmers are agriculture and they can continue to do business. What are they supposed to do with all those files right? And it's like a seasonal perishable product. It's not like I don't know a widget on the shelf that can be saved. It's your time it's your enemy exactly and so we feel like we. The I I felt like a lot of like is so many people in the world. That don't really understand that in. They never really had to. They don't really need to know about the forestry they it for granted flowers there there when they need it. They don't understand the the chain of events that have to happen from a seed to flower that ends up on your table so that was something that we were also busy trying to fight for aunt in just also bring awareness Mash always been the the in my opinion. Of course we're partners through slow flowers a new sponsor many of my projects so maybe I'm being biased. But I feel like you as a company were always have always been more attuned to Sourcing a diverse selection of flowers. Not just the sort of commodity products that you could get in on maths shipped in from South America but really curate. Something unique that your customers want that might be in small quantities or might be hyper seasonal or hyper local so Maybe you could talk a little bit about who is your customer. And what are they asking for? And then how are you able to fulfill that in the current landscape? Of course you know. Our our our core customer was always wedding in event designers. That was that was business because we do specialize in all those amazing flowers we get. That are slow. Flowers grown Farms so you know. We pride ourselves in in those relationships and being able to get that those really cool things that people just go gaga over and so we feel like you know those are still our customers and we still have retail for center our customers as well although he like it's a smaller percent and So yeah we're just renewed We see like small things happening in terms of like Keno people. People still like have funerals in on a send flowers necessarily having Lincoln. Traditional Funeral In still having small things happening elected they still celebrate. And you know and we see a lot of the designers floors retail floors. Whoever it is figuring out ways to be no contact Whether it's delivery or curbside pickup. I even just watched something. You can't remember the company name but they do national shipping of their bouquets and They have a video of them wiping down their boxes. You know using their gloves in everything. And then they ship them out so Local local things too. So I just see a lot of people being creative in just trying to figure out how to keep their business afloat and so to be able to fulfil the those orders you know traditionally right now we have most of our our inventory coming out of LAX. Which is mostly like California Washington Oregon Flowers all of those beautiful products. The Fox Club. I don't know if you guys have seen any videos. But the Fox Cobra now is just rigging amazing. So so the mash the mash infrastructure like up and down the I five corridor from Washington to California that. You're I've always said to PAT. You're basically a transportation company you're able to go. You're able to go to the farms or have some hubs where you can pick up product in where you have a branch already and that is that sort of how it's working exactly. Yes yes so good. Thank goodness Oh my goodness. It's great for the farmers who have to move that product scrape for the floors who are super hungry asking for it exactly so I mean our new normal though is a little different right. We don't have the inventory that people in just walk in and look at Browse. Everything is being pre-ordered so it's a lot of different order farms cray sheets and and things like that so for our branches that are open still selling lax and then they'll have their own order form typically like stuffed up coming out from South America. Although we're going to change that up I think very soon in half marquel under product at our branches but again doing it. Everything for preorder. This is what you can get It's it's not as a customized as rice riot so basically This is why your husband's up at three in the morning. Because every order is a custom order now Yeah and thank goodness. You already had this Capacity of online ECOMMERCE in place because look for example. Your photo library is comprehensive. And so it's not like you're having to scramble to build that out that's already in place right. Yeah Yeah for the most part. That library is a beast guide. The being I'm seeing has been worked on before I got here ten years ago. I worked on it for ten years and it feels like it's still not complete but it is pretty darn good. We're getting there. We've we definitely gave it more attention. The last twelve months so it's really amped up in terms of like also some information in terms of availability and things like that too so you know. We're going like drilling down to like the month in day on that staff so yeah so like how would an average okay say? I've heard that there are small. Elopement style intimate weddings happening. You know it depending on the state or whatever but the people are still some of them are not postponing. Their weddings are going forward. So wood floors like get an order like are there. Do they have to plan ahead? Extra added an extra week to get this product shipped to them or or get it from lax to say. I don't know Detroit. I don't know whatever branch it is like. What is the process and are there minimums and are they on the phone with a repor? They doing this through a form online. I'm just curious about like. How does this all happened? The machination of it. I mean it's a little bit of everything so I up for anyone. That isn't a customer. They have to register. We that everyone to make sure that their floral professionals we don't have any interest in selling to the public and get a lot of enquiries for people's personal headings and things like that were not built to do that. We don't have interest in just referred those out once they get in so we we bet everyone and then once you are approved than you are added to our email list which gives you access to all are priceless. Get you obviously access to manage sales. Which is probably the most important thing and yeah right now. More than ever right. Yes yes exactly and then you also get set up for to be able to buy online. Which is our mashed wreck. Box Up program which is basically right. Now it's not as robust as it used to be heavily. Several countries represented in outs mostly South American things. That can be bought full boxes but are. Lax Inventory is by the bunch and So like let's say you're Detroit customer. I just sent out an email for them so they rank now have to order forms that you can fill out either acceler pediatric and it's for product that they have on hand now it's product that is available to order by Friday for next week and then we have our lax that you need to order by Friday for next week and then Struck box lots which has cut off dates. Just depending on like how you're getting it. Sure every other branches have different coffees so so that in a nutshell. So there's basically like three options right now Depending on if the branch it looks like sounds like most. Your branches are reopened. A few a few. Maybe we'll trail but you do. The the box slot is for like the bulk. Volume single variety. Is that what it is like a whole box of variety? All boxer born right now. So that's for like a large event. Or if you're you're a production florist and you you just need massive quantities of like for Mother's Day probably right mothers yet. Perfect is so actually a lot of arguing. Some of our our event wedding floors to use his but honestly the majority of the customers are retail. Our shops who just need the bulk of things in they want like the reliable hardy things in all of that. So yeah that's that's a great program and the then the other is ordering through the lax for direct shipping off of that availability ordering through your branch that is set up to receive product that they can have curbside pickup few locally. Exactly right now. Most of our branches are carrying on their floor. Some South American product but as I mentioned earlier though be working on bringing in more product on all the US grown maybe some other countries and things like that but again it's fluid. It's going to change so by the time you guys listen to. This is probably going to be different. So that's why it's good just to get connected with rupp and a branch so that way you're always getting the new stuff constantly and I also feel like the. Mike tried to bring this up earlier but I might not have expressed very well but there is a lot of has been a lot of completely local decentralized buying branch by branch depending on what their relationships are with farmers in their in their marketplace and that is probably a little more challenging. Because it's it's you know. It's just just so customized I don't know if it can be turned back on like I'm thinking of the farmers in Oregon are they able to sell to the Portland Branch Dino Portland is carrying local products so yeah that is something that we try to take advantage of a growing area and were able to do that then. We we tried to happen. That's important for for the local marketplace too because those relationships are I mean. I just know the staff at that particular branch. Those relationships are pretty tight. And yes you know. People want to help each other. Exactly we're in this together. That is. I don't know how many times I've said that in a lot but it's so true we're in this together. We are going to get through this together. No matter what So Yvonne do you think. Mother's Day is going to be like when the floodgates opened for everybody in the floor marketplace I just I censor says pent up. Need for flowers You know of course. I live in a bubble in all my social media that I consume as only about flowers. So maybe maybe no we definitely live in a bubble cautioned Right I really really hope so I I feel I. People need flowers. I know so many people that are depressed right now. That are stuck in their home. I have a friend in San Francisco San Diego Little tiny apartment all by herself in she should she would love to have flowers. You know so. I'm hoping Mother's Day is a really wonderful holiday. Gets everything going I? There's another program another campaign I need to look it up. But it's on for me fifth and it's about giving flowers too so I saw it. Yeah I think that's a giving Tuesday has always been Like a promotion for for NONPROFITS TO RAISE FUNDS AND I. Somebody cleverly added giving flowers to giving Tuesday. I saw that too all right well. We'll I'll try to find more information on that because that would that's just another way too. I think for floors to just get the word out with their followers that I've got flowers exactly and we will be posting it on our mash blog. I have all the details. I don't brain is all scrambled in. We'd I know. Afc credits and graphics. We created our own graphic so without our logo in just for people to use to help promote flowers and it gives him a present Tuesday. Oh that's awesome okay. Yeah well am speaking of all your resources are you. What happens with your regular communications? Are you doing mornings with May ash ongoing or how? How often were you doing those Before Cova Nineteen? I was doing them. Maybe every other week okay. A link Kovic hit. I was doing them about twice a week. Which is a lot on me Visit life of facebook live. Show right yes. Okay look alive having different sorts of gas. So you know I've I had a couple of US growers on. I had someone from Holland on Ipad Patrick on a few times I got together with a lot scenes. He in Amanda Allen so designers from all over the country just talking about on And yesterday I just had a really great show with Allison. Ls Grind out. Yeah live video like how to do like video because I think this is the perfect time for all of you guys to to try that out. Oh good I'll get a link to that and and put it in our show notes. I I think that's what's very unique about your How you serve your customers. You're not just promoting flowers. You're helping them a in other ways like how do market. How do you do social media? How do you innovate in as a small business owner? I feel like that's a sort of a bonus that people get if they can consume all of your content. Yeah we we love. I mean education is a pillar of our company. It isn't just something that we do believe in. It isn't something that we do because we see another competitor doing it. This is something that's ingrained in us. So we love the education world. We love being all. We love just helping sharing knowledge. I'm a big believer. That and I was just. I talked about this yesterday on my show. But I listen to Gary v Gary Toyota a Marketing Dude. The squares a lot. Just by if you don't know him love him. His favorite word is my favorite word. That surprises a lot of people but he he was talking about. How knowledge is a commodity. You can pretty much look up anything on Google in. Find out how to do something how something is done. There isn't like really the secret sauce as everyone kind of claims. It is and so. I'm kind of a big believer of that. I'm good with just sharing as much as we possibly can. And putting it all out there and sharing my knowledge and you know if that helps someone or like just even just make someone's Day a little bit better than that's awesome. You know that's what we want to be a part of so we do as much as we possibly can With our with our resources. Yeah and I think the what. I'm kind of the subtext of what you're saying. Well two things number one it talks about. What kind of person you are. You're in it for the long game. You're not trying to you know. I don't know judge focused on today's sale. But on that long relationship with your wedding and event customers who you want to beat you on the other side of this covert nineteen and have them be in business so that you can be in business and I think that's where the the sharing happens where it's not transactional it's like. Okay we're invested. Were were showing up and were encouraging and If if business happens great we want it to happen. But it's more about. I don't know just that personal connection. I think you have a especially with the community of people in the US. Mostly wedding and event floors yes. That's that's so right you know. It's funny because when I started doing social media for example it was very new to me but I had a very clear idea what it needed to be what it should be. It should be in so I got a lot of pushback. Like why? Aren't we selling on social media? Why aren't we doing this on? Social media can't pricey and can meet Mesic. No no no no like that. We need to be social. May need to be giving. We need to give more than what we're receiving and then it will it will come back and it and it really. It really has a Hit and sales stopped. I thought for sure for example that our registration's so Clinton our website and registering with like stop as well like I was like just making a sick to my stomach and then I hear from Johnson handles Oliver Registration. She's like I act like it's crazy like there's more and more people coming in. It's it's insane. I truly believe it's because we may do put so much out there. We do care about the industry as a whole so. Yeah we're just out there for you. Guys were Here for you well. Let's let's have a reunion when this is all over and do an uptake. Because I think you had said something to me before we started recording about you know the new normal and that the business will change and I don't know what that means But I know that there's a lot of who are passionate about having it like. Yeah we can accept change. We can pivot and adapt. But we don't want it to go away and so that's really the focus. Now exactly I would love to okay. Yvonne thank you so much for just giving us an update and I will share all your social polices so people can find in follow year especially your mornings with your blog And you know what other resources do you have that you'd like to share? Maybe some maybe they posted You're GONNA do on the on the May Fifth Giving flowers choose yes and that will always anything. That's important or really good. Content will be on our blog if you go to our website to. There's a link for educational download so we have things like rose guides in. Karen handling in Garland guides in large install. Flowers at seeing McCleary helped us put together a few other things so We just have a lot of really great resources on our website. Our website in general is just a really good tool along with their flower library product planner. And just really good stuff guys. Yeah wonderful thanks Yvonne. I'm GonNa let you go and I will see you online where we often just comment on each others posts and I really appreciate you being so generous with your time. Thank you so much deborah. It was amazing and love. You love what you do and thank you for connecting with me. Take Care Okay. I well today. We're continuing this really inspiring series called stories of resilience. Were featuring each week here on the slow flowers. Podcast or feels like forever. But it's only been about six weeks In you know in response to the cove in Nineteen Epidemic pandemic and all the questions that people are having about just surviving as a floor entrepreneur in a time when Flowers are are not necessarily being treated as top of mind. We want to change that molly. Oliver Culver of Molly Oliver Flowers in Brooklyn is join me to share what she's been doing in her world. Hi Molly Deborah. Thanks for jumping on skype with me. Today I'm happy to talk to you. Yeah Yeah I You know we're we`re. We've been in touch quite a bit this year. Because you're more than usual because you're going to be one of our featured speakers at the slow flower summit later this year and I guess I'm on your mailing list so I've been noticing what you've been writing and sending to your customers and we corresponded right after I think right after. New York's total shutdown. When was that Middle of March or must have been middle of March. So how did that? How did that come to you at that point in time? What was the life of Molly Oliver Flowers like? Were you gearing up for weddings and figuring out deliveries because it was pretty early in the season for for the New York market to to have local flowers right. Yes yes and no we do have some growers out New Jersey who grow in heated greenhouses. Of course they had an Emma knees and ridiculous and Hella bore so there were local flowers. I was on the cusp of the wedding season. I had I had a couple of weddings back in February. Believe it or not and also had several scheduled for the end of March. So we were. We were preparing for for for the spring. We had actually at this point. We've got fifteen fifteen to twenty events that have been postponed since then everything came to a grinding halt and of course like top of mind was just okay. How do I stay safe? How do I keep my family safe? What we do and then we started to try to answer. The question of like are we in essential business. No of course not narran kind of see I was just really working with my clients directly and in conversation but then to see what they wanted to do about their wedding Is there kind of Well first of all. We're recording this on April twenty third and you are still basically under a total stay at home. No contact order except for with you know. There's obviously some exceptions. But is that kind of the status that the whole New York market is in. Yes although something shifted about a week ago which has given me some flexibility to do some new things where bear allowing retail establishments to take online orders and to do curbside contact free delivery so long as there's only one person fulfilling orders so yes but generally speaking retail establishments floral shops are closed and so is the wholesale market On you know I think some people are are these are of their. You know it's it's a question of enforcement. I think some people are finding creative ways to try to get flowers to people in a safe way but by and large the district is is closed. Or The you know. The shipments coming from abroad have ground to a halt. I know there's been stories of farmers in the Netherlands. Plowing in fields of tulips as with events cancelled the inability to gather. Because it's unsafe. It's affecting all CIA everyone. Along the chain from from the farmers to the wholesalers to the florist to clients. So you've you've had to get pretty creative than to. Even though you said about a week ago there was a slight shift. It's a as I understand it. Like florist can kind of operate like a restaurant would be delivering a meal to someone? Is that sort of analogy? Yep Kinda so you you know you're not going to West Twenty Eighth Street to shop but you have this amazing You have a lot of relationships with flower farmers in the Tri State area because that's been the basis of molly Oliver Flowers all along right. Yeah exactly and I think it you know one of the sort of strange disappearances in this time with there being so much Pain and suffering and fear and loss. You know like I've also been noticing. Just how resilient we can be if we are more interconnected as the local economy and is a local industry so I've been leaning heavily on the relationships as always with local farmers to to both know how they're doing in real time and how this is impacting them But also now that we have the ability to potentially bring flowers to people to their curbside. You know to their door. Keeping that six feet of distance we can we can get flowers from farmers accept them curbside at liver them and that we are able to keep that maintain maintain that direct relationship in that connection. My Heart's still as I say. This my heart still goes out to the wholesalers off. I also have great relationships with them and You know it very tricky position If you have a brick and mortar right now as a floral shop you're not deemed essential and So you know it's it's everything feels very double edged sword right now. It's like a blessing to be able to help farmers out and hopefully get flowers to people and I know this is also just a really challenging complex time for so many people in this world history so because of just for people who listeners who've been to New York Flower Market on West Twenty Eighth Street. The storefronts are considered like retail brick and mortar. Is that why they can't? They can't fulfill their customer's needs right now. Or are they getting creative and doing sort of like offline sales without handing flowers through the door to somebody they are they are actually? I know that some of the wholesalers are definitely getting creative. I believe Dutch flower. Line and g page various wholesalers are taking orders online and selling them to florists So they're finding their own ways to be nimble but I think because they're non essential businesses. They're not allowed to be open. Yeah York City. You know the types you can look at. There's a there's a very interesting and detailed list on New York Dot Gov website just you know. Exactly what shops can be open While but wholesale florist floral shops are not on that list. Well in your of the to reduce contact and and people being out you know sure. Sorry I didn't mean to interrupt you. Will Your Studio based on your student studio is in Brooklyn and I'm just curious. What will this look like? And how are you promoting to your your people who normally would order flowers from you? You know you're not typically an everyday florist in your with your wedding and event had on. This is sort of changing things up for you to write. It is very much changing things out for us. Yeah so we are going to So what we're offering as of today. We'll be launching it. Officially is a curbside context. Free delivery of flowers through the month of May and then also through the month of June and hopefully July for as long as we can or as long as farmers have product And so people can sign up for a month at a time and part of the reason why we're doing it that way while several reasons one is that In order for farmers to come down to the city there needs to be enough demand to fill the truck and make it worth it And Right now. Farmers are are have reduced Labor so they have reduced time to to make the trip so it really does have to be worth a and with so many events canceled That means in general. There's just lower lower demand so That's part of it is to to ensure that we are making enough of an investment and then also just on my end. You know the Admin time and just wanting to guarantee that were organizing something over a period of time instead of doing one offs because we're not operating a retail shop right now so we want to guarantee that what we've Invested in is going to be sold. So we're basically creating a model and farmers will deliver the flowers directly to Brooklyn We actually have basically a pop up studio in Williamsburg. And we're doing that mainly to be closer to other florists that are Purchasing flowers from these farmers so we're helping to reduce the time that the farmer will be delivering in Brooklyn. So that me like you are. You're borrowing someone else's studio space in better in a more central neighborhood or well we're just GONNA operate actually out of one of my assistants apartments off. Wow that's so creative like you just wanted to make the delivery even more efficient for the farmers so you you're kind of in just transferring your operations to another facility. It's going to be super simple so we're just going order. Single stemmed bunches We're not going to be making mixed bouquets and That way there's going to be less time processing. Were basically were calling it. The seasonal power projects in what? I'm excited about. It is that it will be a way for people to get introduced to seasonal flowers. Through the week first week you might get Halliburton or a nominee the second week. You might get poppies or third week. We'll just be sort of moving through the seasons and people will get to know flowers in that way and just enjoy beautiful single single stem bunches of flowers so we don't need anything more than really a table and Sure face put You know four to eight to ten buckets of flowers. The flowers will be delivered directly by the farmer Delivered to the curb and you will pick them up wearing gloves and mask and then process them and then will be delivering them on Fridays. All around when in Lower Manhattan. How're you going to do that? Do you have a car in the city We do have a car. So one of my sisters has a car and We'll be doing it like that up though be I mean in a weird sort of way. The streets are empty so it won't be like a typical back back in recovery times. You'd be like Oh my God. What a nightmare. I don't WANNA do deliveries but instead weird sort of way. This is not gonna be as difficult as you would think. Yeah Rush Hour. Traffic doesn't really exist anymore. I know same here that will make the the ability to do it much easier while I don't like the fact that you're establishing this reliance This this stream of of flowers from from the farm to the customers base with standing orders. And so then you have certainty because your customers have preordered and then the farmer has certainty because you can place standing orders and there's a volume that that pencils out to make this. You know at least not not a not a loss for rainy bunny. Yeah actually are you pricing that molly like for a month to get a abucay from Mali? Flowers every week. What would what would someone invest? We're turning forty a week and so You know there's five weeks in May so it's two hundred for the month of May. It's I think one hundred sixty for the month of June sure. Yeah that's great and do you think that you'll anticipate will people you'd be making specific mother's Day requests or you just not going to get into the mother's Day game on top of the monthly subscriptions. I know I probably am not going to take special orders. It just feels like that would be way beyond our capacity all right So what I hope people will do instead as gift their mother. A subscription love it. Great Suggestion Wow I. I think this is exciting and I. I think it's just in in some ways. It's shows how inventive hugh had to be to think through what you felt safe doing. And what works for the farmers and then obviously what your customers feel safe. You know on terms of receiving a delivery. It's just a of moving parts. Yeah and you know for a while there. I really didn't feel comfortable going forward with best until we had that green light from the skate To do curbside contact free but even then like I. I ran a poll on my instagram. A couple weeks ago just to gauge people's interest on it was pretty overwhelming A hundred people fill out my pole and over. Eighty percent of people were comfortable with curbside. Contact free one hundred hundred percent of people really wanted flowers like they just miss flowers that they could get their hands on them So it was. It did feel like At this time you know as a florist as a as a human. I think I just feel a great sense of responsibility to try to do something that feels safe and honorable to the broader community and also healthcare workers are always always top of mind for me and so you know some florist and I were talking just in sort of a a regular group that Sylvia from Cape Lily Stewards. Just talking about this issue this ethical question of What does it mean? If we're all offering this this opportunity in and how much more are we potentially putting a burden on the system So sort of stewing in that but then as the state came out and said No. It's okay like these curbside. Contact free delivery as long as only one person is filling the order that gave me more peace of mind and then just engaging with the broader community with my clients are the people that follow me just saying. How do you feel about this you know? And so that with that being an open conversation I felt more comfortable to go through with it. But that's really in alignment with your community minded values like you. You realize that I've always witnessed this about you. Your actions have this You know impact on the environment on the people that you work with and on the larger agricultural community. So you're really thoughtful about the steps Ben By doing that poll you engage your followers to give you their input and maybe have more buying it to the the idea of a subscription. So that I'm sure that was step. Felt good yeah it did. It felt good. It just feels good to be. Generally I think in fluid conversation with people right now and that we're making decisions based on the information that we have at hand and and making a safe decisions as we can as a community. Yeah and I also think that You made a comment before we started recording about Up until this time last year you basically worked on a on a farm in Brooklyn and so. There's this weird disconnect that you're not doing that this year and now you sort of understand maybe how how much you took for granted. I mean how wonderful that was. The most people aren't connected to the land in that way and I don't know if you can reflect on that a little bit and put it in your words not mine. Yeah I think I was telling a farmer yesterday One of the farmers I will hopefully be working with for the seasonal our project that I'm experiencing flower withdrawal for the first time in over ten years Probably like many humans right now because we can only get outside so much you know to observe the beauties of Spring and to walk through parks People have to really minimize their time outside And it's and flowers in general. The market is so slow down people. Just don't have the same access and I don't have the same access as I'm not you know steeped in events week to week to week so I am really missing them and I do find that even seeing photos of them on instagram makes me happy but I also feel like intense burning like this feeling inside of like I want that I miss my hands on them and so really like withdraw. So wins the first delivery. When you're going to be hyperventilating with excitement it's going to be next. Friday may first perfect. That's so symbolic eleven. Will Molly you are doing some other innovative. Online kind of options are projects that will of course help generate some income for yourself but also help connect people with flowers That you're offering through your website. Can you talk a little bit about some of these other projects that you're doing sure So I am launching a or I have launched some online seeds starting classes just drawing on my experience as a farmer. I think for me like my only panic by this pandemic so far with seeds I've pant fought seeds. Maybe five or six weeks ago. This really was like you know. Already tuned to the fact that we need to regrow local food systems that are global. Food system is really threatened by the way agriculture is practiced and communities are are threatened In that way I think this pandemic has a way of of maybe seeing the flaws in the industrial food system but Yeah it became really clear we. We've got to grow food. You know sort of that victory garden impulse and also you know as somebody who basically learned how to grow food in the city Through Community Gardens in New York City. I know that it's possible for people to start garden. Start seeds in their apartments and thought while like this would be a really beautiful thing if people could start seeing their apartments And have that experience watching something grow can be so nourishing and fulfilling and exciting and a way to kind of get some green into into your life at a time where you're not really allowed to connect with nature and that so needed in the city and my heart goes out to everybody that sort of doing their part sheltering in place in the city because it's not new. York City is an incredible city. But it's not a city that was designed to be lived in in an apartment. And you know twenty four seven so I'm offering these online by donations. He starting classes. There's going to be two of them this weekend. I'm donating half of the donations to city meals. Which is an organization Getting meals to homebound elderly folks and so there's a class at eleven that is for kids with a parent and then a two PM class for adults and got all the list of supplies recommended on my website And people are also welcome to just sit in and take notes. They don't have supplies yet but Plenty of time to start seeds from now through the end of the growing season and really year round on depending on what you want to get out of it. So we're doing that and then I'm starting a soil health course actually this evening. Virtually through Brooklyn Grange And that's a four-part course and It was scheduled to be in person of course but we've moved it online so They're still room in. The course of people would like to sign up for that and I teach about soil in addition to doing floral designs. Still around the city and Just really love it and really believe it's it's such an important way for people to connect to nature and understand sort of all of our interrelatedness and interconnection with the natural world and with our food supply and our flower supply. So it's you know it's a fun topic so that learning tonight while and are you able to do any growing yourself. I don't you have a family access to like a family garden in a yes or something. Yes so I am actually up in Connecticut. And at my mother's house this caught me in a very Odd position at the end of January actually moved out of an apartment and I was Living part time in the city through February and March and spending to three days a week in the city and and spending weekends here in Connecticut as I was looking for a new apartment and so once events basically postponed where he. We're kind of Adrift Right. So I have my my two assistants in the city. Who are going to be. One will be receiving flowers. We'll be delivering flowers. And and meanwhile I'm here and I am helping my mom out in her perennial garden and her vegetable garden and it should be great because I can use those those gardens as teaching tools through the soil class and the seat starting classes. You know I it depends like how you know. If if the weekly subscription if the seasonal flower project takes off I may getting back to the city sooner than I. You know sooner than later so absolutely you know so many people. I find myself in a relatively unusual situation. That is temporary but Yeah but the the silver lining is that you are actually Gardening and He wouldn't have been doing that as much this year. Because you're not working with the youth farm right rights why it really is a blessing and I as somebody who lived has lived in New York for twenty years. I've been taking walks and just noticing how high I get on nature. I love it. Uncle thing for a lot of New Yorkers so It's it's really incredible to have this time to slow down and connect with the land and with birds and with trees and watching wildflowers. Bloom it's it's amazing not seeing. That's part of my typical day to day so I've really been appreciating that and that kind of confidence that the counter that's the the the self care and the positive aspect that kind of counters all of the hat. No the just the time consuming. You know time at the computer and on phones and doing you know technology which seems to be dialed up as well. Just because you're so isolated you need it. Yeah it's it's wonderful and at the same time in a again. It's such a double edged sword. Because I really feel for for my beloved community of New York City and And you know just how tough it is their right now for people living at home working at home not able to get outside and I have a New York escapee well a Brooklyn escapee living under my roof right now so i. I can't imagine how upset I would be as a mother if my son was still in his tiny apartment in Brooklyn. I'm we're lucky that he was able to fly home. Two days after the stay at home order was was announced. So I'll send it back to you as soon as things are. Okay Oh my goodness we'll listen. Molly what else do you want to share with people before we wrap up? You're doing that one on gardening one on one classes. I thought that we would is at a different series. Oh yes so I am planning to do that. I wanted to just create sort of an hour. Long weekly get together for people that have questions about their gardens or the seeds. They've started or you know perhaps for the folks in my soil class if they WANNA pop on with a question So am planning to get that going. I'm I'm thinking it's going to be on Saturdays Probably around one PM and that will just be through zoom. I think it could be a really fun way for people to get to know each other. get questions answered any questions regarding soil seeds watering plant-care pest and disease management and it. Yeah it should be fine as sort of a very loose version of the training program Iran going through seasons with people and and being trying to offer what I can at this time people As a service since I have the privilege to be a peer With events on hold just finding ways to be useful end sharing spread the knowledge so while so that's kind of a that's just a You're just doing that as a by donation. Oh I love that well. Well I'M GONNA put a link to some of these things we've discussed that I know most of it's on your website but I'll show the Lincoln our show notes At de Printing Dot Com. And I have some lovely photos of you that I'd like to share but if you have anything anything that you want to add to it. We'll we'll we'll put those in there in our notes as well as links to molly social places so you can find him follow her. I feel you're on the front lines and I'm really grateful that you brought this snapshot to us of how you're living in the moment and kind of creating a way to connect people with flowers win. Weddings AND EVENTS ARE POSTPONED. I I. I'm glad you're doing that. You I mean I I definitely I don't know that I'm on the frontlines of the pandemic but the thank you and I know that yeah. I think I'm ready. To Be Flexible. I feel like this pandemic is again. You know it's a moment where I really do feel I think with all the again with obviously the real pain and suffering. That's happening I do think it's a moment where mother earth is sort of asking us to pause reflect and And Yeah and so. It is asking us to develop new systems and in some ways. It's great because it's it's kind of forcing the hand to develop a new page on my website. You know web shop and do things That I hadn't done before so I think that that's good and Yeah and I'm just wishing out there well and To be safe and figure out how to use this time to hopefully for us all to build systems that are more sustainable for the earth and for communities moving forward. That's Great. Thanks so much molly. We'll talk soon. I know I'll see this year ever. Yes very thanks take care. I'm so glad that both Molly Yvonne join me to record this stories of resilience episode for you visit. Today's show notes for episode four hundred and fifty one which you can find Deborah printing dot com. And they're all have images links and more resources that we discussed including how you can find and follow both Yvonne and Molly our next sponsor thanks goes to the Association of Specialty Cut Flower Growers Formed in one thousand eighty-eight Asef. She was created to educate unite and support commercial. Cut Flower growers. Its mission is to help. 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Good One: A Podcast About Jokes

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To prepare to interview people I usually listen to and read other interviews. They've done you get a sense of what they let you talk about. And also what they get asked about over and over in doing so I sometimes get to see phenomenon I always love which is when the interviewer talks to the person is that they are the character they plan on TV, show or movie. They'll be like I can't believe you cheated on Derek and the interview will be like sorry. I bring this up because this happened so much to avant, who is best known for playing molly on insecure was just wrapped up its fourth season. I get it. The role is iconic, but I think an equally big factors. How unknown she was before getting. The role should even have an agent yet. But little do people know avant has performing stand up, since two thousand six, and was even hand picked by Chris Rock to open forum in two thousand seventeen with new HBO. Special Mama made it of honors ready to show people who the real person behind the character is. Behind her stand up, which is so good, it's joyous in filled with hyper specific ridgely drawn characters. The special also includes documentary footage of avant returning to Nigeria the country where she was born in briefly, raised before moving to Maryland at age six. Using documentary footage has been trained in. Stand up recently, but it really really works here. Vons impression of her family members are so funny, but it's another level to then meet those people and see how spot on she is. The joke of she to focus on is about a pivotal life changing moment the moment when she realized well I'll let her tell it so here is avant orgy. And but I can't front y'all I am living my best black life right now. I got a chance to do something I really didn't think I'd be able to do. I I enrolled in auto pain. Now you got to be real confidence that you'll find. The hotel you want your take win on the twelfth. It did not always use the way. I'm nine years I. I used to have team talks. Everybody Huddle in huddled at. All right is Friday account as looking. We've got forty seven dollars. Make the weekend all right. So. Let's here's what we're going to do Friday. We can go to Paula but no GUAC okay. Get that mind. The way is looking. You can put seven on puppy Levin right break three. You got. You know how this is going to. Go to sleep, feeling good about your choices decisions. You forget that there was one one pending. You go to sleep. You wake up to these alerts. Negative thirty five. You call the Bank Matt Hello. The These overdraft fees. Trick of the enemy. That's what they are. Not The one that got put my life. I rebuke them. Anybody here, I'll review through overdraft me. Release the Freedom Ball doping. For your. Children's Children's children. Know it is. 'cause you know when you know when you're dating before you'd be like you might have found out. What his greatest glorious. Not Me, I'm like I'm sorry. You on auto, pay or Where are we in our life? So I'm here with you comedian behind the joke? You just heard Yvonne Orgy. Thank you so much for joining me. Thank you for having me. Before we dive into the joke itself I wanted to hear more about the sort of truth behind it I believe around two thousand nine. He moved to New York. To really try to make an entertainment. And then you got insecure in two thousand and fifteen, so can you. Can you describe sorta what your financial low was or your financial struggles at the beginning of your career? What did that feel like well? How low is low because that's where I was like? I have I have friends who were like or any money and men I. Turn around, and you're like. Yes. I think. I'm just GONNA spend a month in. Thailand I'm like wait. Wait wait, you say you have. No money is very different than what I say. I have no money and no I was broke. But how did you get the Thailand? was. Spirit air given dollar tickets that I don't know about. And so that wasn't that wasn't my testimony. Mind was literally light If anything costs above five dollars, I might not make it. and it was, and so there was many years of. Sacrificing dream while getting attempt job, and then being like I'm happy in this temp job, because while I can eat and pay my rent I'm not fulfils as an artist, so I quit, and then it's like Oh Dang I'm now broke. Those is the thing song and finally I decided to lean into. You know what? Girl you're just GONNA have to struggle for a little bit, but it will all be worth it because you know this is the you know. Sometimes, there's there's you just gotTa. Go through the fire to grow through the fire. You just have to go through. And you know I've found myself at probably one of my lowest points in. New, York and I wanted to Bros Pizza. Which if you're in New York. Feeds the homeless artists 'cause if the dollar slides feeds the and then if you WANNA, get rule fans, you can get a can of soda for seventy five cents, two dollars and seventy five cents all you need for a meal and I. I was living in like far. Rockaway Queens and I didn't have enough money to get the pizza and soda and have like round trip subway fare, and I was just like. You don't have seven dollars. I'm grown with two degrees in Sallie. Mae is out. You're trying to get all my money Like a very low point, and it was in that moment that guide like deposited on me like all of his plans for me and I just remember being like this sounds really good. Sir I. I really appreciate you taking the time to talk to me house ever what I. Really would have liked better in this moment is food. And so know to get to the point. Then I think wait. When did I signed on to automate two thousand? Ninety. Comfortably Nineteen against to a point where like yeah, you could take all this money and I won't even know. That was I think I've made it like I. Think me I've made it. Can you walk me through that decision you know? How did it feel when you're when you saw? That was an option and you're like what was the decision, but you're like yeah I. Think I can pull this off well. Here's the thing like even when I'd now live in La. You know there are some bills that got you right like. I remember my Geico Bill. They were like you can save X. amount of dollars on your bill if you sign up for auto pay. But you got to find a chicote right, so it was like I signed up for it, but like they would take the money out like say like the fifteenth and via. I'VE GOTTA get off pay on the fourteen and so pan. Grace of like three days to pay the bill, and it's like I know I'll have it in three days, and then like I would pay it, and then get back on all the pace. I can still save the money, so it was just like all things, wasn't it was I was like I? Was a double Dutch ing on auto-pay wasn't comfortably on it. And then I'll never forget like I bought my home in twenty nineteen and to get my bank loan. They were like we'll give you this great rate. If you agreed to have your mortgage on auto, pay and I was like. My mortgage lightweight omitted like that was the moment that was when I was like. Oh Caesar, big girl bills like wait. You just want to take it out every month like at the same time. Like okay I think then in that moment I was like you I've made it like my bill. My mortgages on auto pay. There's nothing anyone else can say to me. were. You surprised at how sort of powerful that felt to make that decision. I think I think it was because here's the thing I'm not so far removed from the I couldn't afford two dollars. Worth of pizza. said not understand the magnitude of that moment like Yo God. Being entertainment wasn't even a dream that I had for my so. And, then you gave it to me and now you're not only just giving me that dream. You're giving me the like all the the bells and whistles that come with fulfilling that dream and I think it always. GETS ME IN AWE. As just like. How how did we get here? Because I remember when we weren't here, 'cause that wasn't so long ago and the magnet were here now tumbling. What it is, it's very. It's humbling, you know there's a Israel Houten has a song. Like who am I that you a mindful of me Who am I that you care from? Analyze the those words like. Who I'm like, I'm not that spent like who am I that you would think the give me this life, and not just the financial thing of the slide, but just this life. Where like I am literally, my ancestors while others drains like who. How did I get here and I'm grateful, yeah? When did you realize you wanted to talk about it on stage, you know. What did you see in this that he thought? Oh, there might be something funny here because I mean. Listen you hang around any artists any amount of time you know the struggle is real. Right and you know for a lot of those. We've all gotten got by that. One bill that we forgot was on auto pay. We've all gotten got like. The overdraft fees had. I didn't know I. Forgot I I missed out on a date. You know like you just you know you got sloppy. You forgot you. Forgot like there was a payment panic because you know when you're when you're counting every penny, you're like an accountant. You're just wait. I know this okay. The check came okay. I put it in. It's GonNa, take about two or three days to clear in the bed, and then and then you're making. You're making plans for when it when it Clare's. Sometimes you get a little results like okay wackadoo this because I know it's going to go do three days. Forget like Monday's a holiday. I didn't a camper. That or something happens, and we've all you know. We've all been there. When that overdraft be kind of sneaks up on us, and that's what I knew I for me. It wasn't so much like everyone's going to get this joke for me. It was just. Just like oh I know this feeling, and if anybody, even if you don't know this feeling, you know somebody who's had this feeling like it. That was when I was like more than the funny of it. Because in the moment isn't. There's nothing funny about it, but it's just the ability of lie Yo. We have go. Yes, understood, we have been that that is liberty and justice for all to be able to. To be able to just like roam around our finances freely and. Take take it on the twelfth. Whenever yeah the thirteenth? Whatever the second sure it'll be there? My that is, that is a privilege. And an honor, so then once you. You know there's something there that is. Say compelling to you know, how do you? How do you sort of evolving ideas? How do you actually right? You know what is writing? Look like I think for Comedians. It can mean different things. How do you sort of then like actually? Let me think about what I would say on stage sort of capture this feeling. Well, you know I think. Based on the trajectory of my of my career, saying you know. I just did something that I didn't think I'd be able to do. The audience expecting Oh, my Gosh. She just booked the role with insert like super super. Stir here own, my Gosh! She just landed deal here like they're expecting something grandiose and for me. It's the twist of the plateau is is this is something big? Big For me because when you come from like I can afford to dollar pizza like my bills on auto. Pay Like that's A. that's a big win. That's a win but it's also a win that like anybody who's not an entertainment can have, and so it's like writing that joke of like I'm Gonna I'm GonNa. Show them my right hand, but I'm GONNA give them left instead. And that's when I knew like okay. There's something here and the audience is like it's the the thing they weren't expecting is what makes them laugh, but then the reality of the thing they got is also what makes them laugh, so you're kinda getting the w laughter of the realization, then the understanding of light. You'll know that is a big moment. No, no, that is, she's right though you know. Do, is, is that a thing? Will you like write it down or type it up or is it sort of like you have an idea thing? You'll start saying it on stage and sort of go from there I. write everything down if if if it's not if a job is not renown in my notes then I'd I lose it like I I? Write everything. Everything Down Verbatim Mike normally a seed will come to me. I'll get in the shower out acted out like shout like my bills, probably the root cause. I'm like acting it out in the shower. My okay walking that go, and then I go out and like I'm like dripping, trying to get the towel around me. Grab my phone. I got like it all out. And then I look at. It might not ask long then edited, and then when I get into a place where I like I'll Catholic drop it in conversation to see just how like how it works. 'cause you never wanted to know like you're testing on them, but it just like a man. You know what I did today. Iro Not pay. Vera, how how do you feel like your soulmate you know, and then it's like you talk, and then you see like the things that you say over and over again that get a reaction. You like okay well. There's something there. There's something there and that has to stay. Everything else can be worked. I've heard different COMEDIANS talk about how they'll bring it up, but it feels like bringing up in conversations such a specific of your process. So how when was this sort of joke than ridden ridden when you were working on the special? Are you sort of always working on jokes? Even sort of when you're maybe focusing more on acting. Yeah I mean I think whenever you whenever a funny joke calms I. Write it Down Because I. Never know what I'm using it for. I don't know if it's a throwaway. Script I. Don't know if it's for the stage. I just write it down and let's see where we can go from here. Oh interesting all right so I want to take a closer. Look at joke and sort of walk through it, and you could talk to me how things came together. Sort of what you like about different parts, so the joke starts with the framing of like I'm living my best black life sort of gets big applause. Why frame it with that? Instead of maybe start meeting with of the buildup? So like what did you like about I? Establishing this idea of talking about how great, but my life is right now. Yeah, because it's. It's Kinda just like that moment of I'm on stage. I'm filling HBO. This is a big moment for me. I have on my second movie writing a book. It's like all the things that are happening I've just bought my first home. I'm happy I'm happy I'm happy. I'm happy I'm living my best black lives. And the audience I mean most people want to see people that. They recognize as growing to. You know to to celebrate their wins right. Most people are like for me. I think a lot of people with a lot of my fans. Look at me like men. If Yvonne can do it like I, can do and which I'm like heck. Yeah. 'cause I'm I'm I'm no respecter of God is no respecter person like. If. You've got a dream. If you know he gave it to you you working towards like I will see you on the stage soon, Mike, Whatever your stages and so it's that moment of like bringing the audience in and having them celebrate this moment with me, and so that's the setup, and then it's like man in addition like part of living my best black live I got to do something that like I thought was so unattainable I thought was so far beyond me like I couldn't even you know, and it's just like what what is it so like? For you now they're like. Tell us more tells more. We WanNa know and then it's like Auto Veda like what? Yeah. It's like like what they're like. Yeah, that is great eggs. It's a surprise element of data. She just built is built us up so high, and you know anything about it and I think that's also would add my related -bility. For. Someone could be like manages this something I anything I could be able to do this i. what I read it in the private jet like? Big and that's beautiful, and that's like aspirational, but like half the people in your audience or like when we were going to do that right and it just like it. None of it's alienating because they get. That's your truth. That's your I haven't had a chance to do that I. IF I. Did I probably would have said no sage. But in that moment it's like Yo I'm giving you this thing. That was so big, but here's here's the catch you can do it. And so you know even like the reaction from you know online and the tweets in the. Like man what we received that auto pay blessing girl I. was like. Spirit of auto-pay. You know if you were like. OUTSCA, receive it, and I think the the the related billy of that is. That's an attainable goal. It's still a goal, but it's like Oh when I attain that goal I can. I can feel good about my accomplishments, and where I am, and it's tangible I. Just it may take me a little bit to get there, but I can I can have had that to my vision board, and as an accomplishment 'cause sometimes you do things and you're like Oh man I got I got no, but I think me putting it in the special. Yoyo. No, that's something to celebrate. FIT After you say auto pay, there is like this sort of big chair and you start dancing, and it made me think about you know i. a lot of Comedians say a lot of Comedians. A lot of material comes from sort of anger or frustration, and like and inside the joke, there might have been sort of past versions of frustration and but like. The joke is framed from the position of joy, and I think a lot of your comedy is. What is that what what attracts you to having sort of a joyous persona or coming to that way to your audience? I mean for me, I mean my my name means Archer of happiness so Yvonne. Jimmy's archer happened his daughter for King Strong Oak I know that my my purpose is to literally shoot and inject joy into the Airways whatever that is. And so my framing is is one of like. Yo I want when you leave here that you had a good time, you mean it's not that we won't talk about different things. It's like no, but we'll talk about different things, but. Like you, said the framing and will be positive because I I'm optimistic even when I talk about dating, and it's like I'm seeing. I. Up Guys I'm so happy, and this is like even if it's a struggle, but. Here's. Here's what I'm happy about. I'm happy about my growth. I'm happy that I now know what I want I'm happy that my vision board is updated and I won't settle for less also. It's kind of that like you can look at the same situation one or two ways I choose to look at it through lens of joy into Lens of hope, and you know the the audacity of hope. Yeah you, so the joke continues, and you have one line then to sort of explain about why such a big deal and you sort of. Do this phone call and say it's on the twelfth, said just take it then. which is sort of like set into sort of different tone than you're presenting standup you? It's much more conversational. Is that partly sort of how it evolves? In that you're you're these jokes evolving from you talking to people sort of how do the phrasing of that moment that sort of like just take then with the little swoop of your arm you do. How did that sort of come together? Because for me I was like that's that's power for me I'm like Yo. The power of that moment is you're talking to somebody and they're like Yo Command. Would you like us to put this on auto pay? Yeah, when you want it. The twelve tests kid like it doesn't matter like whatever date. Date you choose I'll have it like that is a freedom that is, that is the the luxury and I say you know I was like auto. Pay is not for the faint of heart. It's for the gay flea employees like you can't just be Willy Nilly out here like yes, but let me check this box. 'cause then I talked about the flip side when you when you unknowingly enrolling auto pay, and it's like I check the box. No on check it. Please don't want this like like way. You're not ready for it, you. It's the last thing you know that you want because you know a lot of people who are trying to you know Y-, you know, make ends need or trying to stay afloat. If like now we gotta get creative. It's like we don't want to be delinquent our bills, but we gotta get creative with how we pay our bills, and sometimes we have to prioritize. Prioritize and you know if you talked to any artists at any point you know, remember those beginning moments at, and it's just like it was not easy, and so it's like I wanna be an upstanding citizen. I want. My name to like means something I want my credit score did not be shot, and so it's, but it's just like at the same time like. this. This wasn't an over extension at the time, but now because of so many events have happened like Yo. I'm in over my head and. Oh okay I I. I really gotta get creative. This is where my acting comes into place I wish one is more important is in my spirit bill, or is it you know like or is it? Do I eat today like what? What do I need most? Because then like? If I do get the call. That I got the job, my phone turned off. That's not going to help. Help me, but then if I, can you know but then if I can eat three meals a day? That's also not going to help me, so you know I feel like the the the conversation of being able to be like you wanted on the twelfth. It doesn't matter to me because whenever you on it. I got it for you. And that's that was the empowerment of that moment. as you're talking about, you're talking about sort of the internal debate of what can we do? It's how how what can we pay for and in the joke itself you? Create a scene of it as sort of a huddle that you have with yourself, just sort of saying that instead of explaining to me like you just did you create a little seed of you huddling with essentially multiple versions of you? It's like a team. That's all you. How did you come to sort of framing it that way? Oppose sort of telling people what it's like you sort of created this image of multiple us. Looking at the looking at the charts and being like Oh, I think we can do outlay but Nakagawa. Yeah, because it was I remember when I was a PA I my roommate and I. We'd always you want to. Was One of those things like you got like ten bucks you could. You could get like a meal and you could split it and you can that be lunch and dinner. But then once they start adding a Guatemala. That's taking me over like nonpartisan like you gotTa sacrifice you. You can't be out here trying to eat lavishly because AAA with GUAC lavish eighty. Oh, when you're on the grind and so it's just like. Hey, listen, we have conserve you want. You'RE GONNA. Get your basic needs met, but let's not get crazy. That's movie. Calm down, and so that's what that is. That huddle is like when you. You know like okay. You're trying to just get over the hump. Because you know you've got some things coming out and it was just like okay we can. We can put gas, but we're not that we're getting to our nation home. Okay anything else is again is extra as that huddle that me showing you that kind of conversation that I have with multiple versions of myself. It's like. This is what. What it took for me to get on this platform this stage that you see me on the plotting meow like without telling you like. It was large. It fight. Yo, this is these are. Mental debates that I have with myself, and sometimes you know you can look at your favorite celebrity and be like man. They were overnight success. Oh, it was a long night. If you think that you know and so showing you the process of the negotiations. I had to have it lets you know that like this moment means that much more to me because I remember this other moment. In general throughout the special, you'll set up premises, and you'll do scenes or act outs. Instead of telling the audience you'll, you'll perform it. in other jokes allows you to do a lot of very specific characters. Or sometimes it's your your family, members or people from back home. What do you like about that style? How did that style evolve to be? More performed live to be sort of more character oriented. You know I think the beauty about you know my my style of comedy. Is that like I? Get to use every aspect of me right I. get to use the Nigerian aspect of. The african-american aspect of me. I get to use the performer. Actress the aspect of music. Comedian, so it's really just me being able to be like I, like acting and I like comedy and I don't have to choose which one I am right now because I can be both so in this moment I'm going to X. Y., and Z., and so when we went to Manchuria to do this, the woman on the street segment. I didn't know what they would say. That was script that all. And so a really no, we didn't go in with a plan. You just like walking around I knew that, versus like with the with the directions bid, that came from asking directions of like Nigerians in America and just been like they don't know how to get anywhere. So then I wonder if Nigerians in Nigeria do thing and it was like bless accent well, and I was like you can't even. Even make this up. They do the same thing. It's like it doesn't matter where they are doesn't matter if they've lived in America for so long, it's like bears, still Nigerian at heart, and so that's why I was like Oh. You know I knew that going to Nigeria I. wanted to highlight some things that I would say on stage as well as like talk to my parents and just. The punctuation of those clips I was like man I it kind of brought to life like it's one thing to hear me say, and then it's another it into like see it Yeah, and I think that Kinda just like kind of put the exclamation point on like to hit home on some of the the bids. If you ask my jurors that. that the tonight it would be the most frustrating experience of your life. You would still be on your way here. She'd be like excuse. Me taught me how to get the hell with the year. Your they go. How would? I wore the. So, what does this move? Through GPS was going on. What the? Poking okay, here's what you want to do. You want to go all the way down. Just go down down down down down down. The way to the end of road I the end of the streets. Of Sign Best. Both sides stop. Quiz. A. Day. Yes, how do I get to? Know most of the names. And you go straight down. You turn right. Turn left and to just keep on grants, so there's many rights I left pretty much. Okay. When I get to the BUSTA, now stopped. I O mentioned on on that moment. When you talk about how the gave directions, and then you have them, do exactly I couldn't believe it the fact I was like maybe she went there and then reverse engineer I as a person who thinks about this stuff I was. I was going to ask you about 'cause fascinating because like. either. She planned this reverse engineered, or she truly is like I mean like I mean I guess it's correct, which is sort of you? It's an observation. Of like talk to get people to actually say that is, there's been a lot of documentary footage and especially, but nothing. Where was like literally like people talk like this? And then you have a person talking like that it was. I imagine in that moment when it happened. Really like Oh, this is great. Oh, yeah, it was perfect because I was just like I, really was like. Wow, he literally said my joke verbatim like I can't like and I had that job before that was that was. The crazy thing is like I. had that joke? And then he was I guess. Stop sign you. Stop and I was like he did not he. was like. Did we get it like in my mind I was like. Please tell me we got it. We were feeling on the street. It was like high tides base. We had to cameras going like. It better be clear that there was there better be no out of `focusness. Did we get that like it was like a moment of triumph and it was just like a moment of life. Man I love evil. And we can't be helped. It was as we can't help ourselves. Well my my favorite part was like the little kids who were just like no. We use Google maps. I was like look look at the generational gap. It was like the truly like wrote to Tag. wrote the joke out again. You'd be like then a little kid. Can go now I, I loved I was like. Oh this is the generation and. I was like so you don't even know she was like. No, you can just put it in your phone I was like. I'm not mad at you. 'cause that have been my answer and I. Do that next time because he got me lost. Your Dad got me lost. So so the joke continues. The last part is the the have this rebuke of. Overdraft fees. What how did that come to you? It's a very. It's an interesting. To give that audience you you. You address the audience directly in you as a sort of. I don't know what you'd call it, but you sort of rebuke this four generations that. Problem well, yeah, because because here's the thing so. I started saying like overdraft fees of the trick of the enemy and. When the review, if 'cause the the reality is if you think about the system, right? You, are you know you have one dollar lasts or even sixty cents less than what the vendor or the merchant was taken out your bank flow to the sixty cents, and then charges you thirty two dollars or thirty five mountains. You like on what offenses that make like if I didn't have. The sixties ends now like you. I I'm in debt to you. Thirty five dollars like why am I not in the sixties and can I just make up to you? What I? I didn't have you know or like. Just don't let it go through. You know whatever like just don't let like whatever it is, but then, and then like God forbid you had two things coming or three things coming out at the same time, and you know your shorts now you're like thirty five times three and it's like that's such a system I mean we. We accepted it because you're like well, that's just had the banks are, but y'all. That's a system of. Of oppression is the word, but it's definitely not as. To help people out of debt that are already very close to the deadline you, so it's just like this is whack, and systematically this is wack and the people that it affects the most. It's it's it's it can be crippling, and because then 'cause they are like if I do get a check instead of me starting at a good level, I'm starting at a deficit because not gonNA. Pay My dad's like Atlanta. You know to the banks, and and now I'm short again, so it's like the cycle of poverty to be honest, it's like a it's like condemn you continuing the cycle of poverty, and so that rebuke was me lying you I rebuke the overdraft fees that rebuke it because it's like now from your chosen like they will know the blessing of never have A. They will know the blessing of auto-pay because. Because that means that's one less thing. They have to worry about You know a lot of my audience. especially in that moment were were African Americans, and it's like that's one less thing. They have to worry about ads. Young black kids. They can just start at not at the deficit, but they can start above in life. Yes, yes, it is and I think the audience. We received that we. That because you know it is, it's a setback So! The joke ends with you. Bring it up with dating. You say you know you should ask if. Was that always? There was partly to sort of transition to dating material wasn't more like I need something sort of connect these things. No, you know. That was a tag i. kind of made up on the spot. Oh, because I was like in my mind thinking like y'all it's funny. I mean obviously I know where my said is going, but I just was like Oh. This transition. It was like Oh. You know what back in the day they can. Find out what his credit score is and I'm like bummed that like credit one thing, but like where are you on auto? Pay Like how confident are you with your finances? If you're comedy your finances and hopefully your credit score will match that level of confidence in your your bill paying. Suave nece in general when you're putting it all together, and you talked about how it was a pretty short time line to sort of make thing between different projects you had. How do you think about how these things are ordered? How do you sort of approach it as a single set? Yes, well for me I, knew that the beginning like I kinda wanted to move from like. getting to know me so like this is me. This is my world. This is the Nigerian. This've it lie before I go into. Other aspects of me, I gotta lay the foundation with like who I am, and what this means so that you can understand my perspective on all these other jokes right, so it was very much like. Let me introduce you to my world. And then it was like is what Nigerians do. This is my purview, my perspective, being both Nigerian and American, and so I'm going to look at things. you know with this kind of bird's eye view even if it's like what it looks like for the plate taboo, what it looks like you know for Nigerians with education, and like why you know jobs, specifically that group of people are so. So like gun-ho of being that those lawyers and engineers 'cause like my Momma won't even let me play with somebody who doesn't make straight as you know, and like we're only in third grade, so it's kind of like. Let you giving you a little bit of like insight into your. Like Herman's head backdated. was that show like giving a little bit of insight into my world, and then on my all right? Let's have some fun you know. Hopefully it's fun all the way, but it's just like education over Now. Let's apply everything we just learned to like playing games. With different groups of people going on dates, you know. Make a vision board. And then I knew that like the setup of like haggling in the beginning was like my call back to you know if I got kidnapped and my parents, and knowing that like I would enter my set with being you know the single woman, and what that looks like culturally you know spiritually et Cetera, and then knowing that like I. I would take you from one place that you thought I. Left you and apply it back to the other thing because the reality is I, can't stop being all of these things that I just told you I was yeah. We talked about it before. which is part of that? Is You mix in this documentary footage of visiting your family in France and Nigeria. You explain at the top of the special why you wanted to do which is sort of no way I could do a special about my life without showing you my life and I wanted to ask a little bit more about that you know what one what do you think it does for the home audience you know? What does it offer them? But even beyond that it's like you know. Why did you want the audience like? Why do you want the audience to know more of you? Why? What about yourself? As an artist? You're like there's a deeper understanding they can get if I do this. And why is that important for you? You know I think that. Most comedians you can tell like. What you're going to get from a Dave, but actually maybe maybe you can't ever tell what you're gonNA, give Dave develop though, but you know that you're GonNa get brilliant. Watched his. A forty six they came out and it was so impassioned. I don't even know can call it a comedy special. I think it's like extended tedtalk a very necessary, but it's like, but it's exactly what we needed but you know that Dave is going to see the world from like turning it on its head like you've had enough experience with him to know that he has his very like. Incredibly dark, but also like funny sense of humor. And Awful, not even dark but like. Inquisitive. He will make you think he's never gonNA. Give you a joke like open-handed. You're going to have to come to come up to his level You know that you know Trevor Noah is going to like apply being South African as well as being like like understanding the political. Movements of both in South Africa and in America. You know you without a comic letting. You know that they're teaching you about them. You're learning about them with every show you go to, and so for me it I recognize that a lot of people came to know me through a character I play Mali on insecure. But I was doing comedy long before I was molly, and so this was kind of music having to reintroduce a fan base. Who didn't know me as this and so. Before I before I get into my groove. It's like it's like when you come to school the first day you're like. Hey, class, you know. We're GONNA, take role by the way my name is. Professor Orgy. Couple of these know about me that that syllabus this year. We're going to get quizzed on the thirteenth in. Any questions gray, and now we can get into the lesson plan right, and so it was kind of like that way of me. Saying like Oh. This is who I this. Who Yvonne is and I know you love Molly, maybe not this season, but you Rockwood Yvonne Yvonne Pretty Dope in her own way. Let me show you and that was and but at the same time it's like. Going back home and showing my parents, that was my way of being like I'm going to have the Mike for an hour. I know that you all don't get the opportunity to to have a say you know you just use. Listen to me. You may shake. Your hand does not through. You know like you know or I have an issue with that or whatever so I'm like. Let me give my parents the time that they deserve to to to air their grievances to cosign or not and those are some of the most special moments for me in this project because it was like Oh. I get to show the world like who I am through my parents. Because they helped. Make me this way. and you know for the most are we all have whatever relationship we have with our parents, whether it's tumultuous whether it's loving whether it's tender whether they're moments of like highs and lows in, it's like yeah, that's that's also relatable number across a seven seas, and all the continents. You understand this Mon, these moments that I'm having with my parents, and they're having with me, We'll be right back with more of an orgy. I feels good like when you first get your hands on the leader sneaker drop. Yes, well, here's a new I for you. Samsung Galaxy Five G., yes, five G. now and galaxy, helping you be one of the first on five G., so you can be first to even more like being the first of your friends to pose donate K with the first eight K. on boxing. Video of your new kicks. Thinking man, I really looks good. Like really good galaxy, five G. now available on Galaxy s twenty five G. feels good to be I with Samson five speeds vary and require optical networking connection factors include frequency bandwidth congestion. See carrier for availability. And we're back with Avante orgy. An audio medium, but I want to talk for a second about the visuals of the special specifically, I often complained about staying up special sets. Your set I loved. Is Clearly African inspired, and then, of course your outfit, which is everything? I, heard you talk about you went as far as hiring an African graphic designer to make your. Yeah, I WANNA talk about why sort of how you can't decisions, but also what things like this? What those visual elementary your outfit in the set do in sort of helping you communicate who who you are as we as we were talking about. How do those elements help? In the sort of big picture of you're GonNa, get who Yvonne is. Yeah, no I like for me I am I. Think if I wasn't doing comedy if I wasn't doing acting I, probably would be a marketer. Because I know I know when I've been marketed to and I'm like Oh God. Yeah, they got me. I'm of course. You are buying these chips and I don't need, but I gotta taste it. They fuse two different flavors together. I gotta try it. You know I saw the commercial for it and for visually my aesthetic like I. Know when I might you know? Don't book by its cover. I'm like Nah I do 'cause I'm like. Does it look good I'll take it. You know and I'll. I'll open the first base. It could be on my album. Cover covers great, and so for me I watch a lot of specials before before I, went into production on my own and I was like yeah I. Don't want to do like. The curtain. No I don't WanNA. Do. You know I like I wanna feel like everything is is part of. Something else like if we're talking Africa I WANNA. Feel like even the set reminds me of Africa without like. You know a caricature. Because then there's also like well. What is Africa? You know what I mean like what is what is that and so when I took the trip home to Nigeria? So before we actually went on the trip, I like look at some of my favorite My photographers or you know like just people that knew captured. The African faces feels countries like I. Just I would like. I would go on their instagram just for inspiration and I knew I wanted something. That cetera but it wasn't until I went to Nigeria and I saw this restaurant squad. Laura, and I was I loved the the. It's like a it's like a high end. Shopping but it's also like an art exhibit, and then at the restaurant at the bath, so it's like it's a beautiful mess. Let you spend the whole day. There and I saw I saw. The the entryway is as redgate and it was like it's. It's iron on top of iron, and was just like it made square in made like a square design, and I was like Oh. Man I love that I love the iron I loved the hard because I'm a Tomboy by nature I grew up with three older brothers, and I'm like I love the steel, hard nature of this, but I also love the pattern, and so the designer, Tom. He was phenomenal and I sent him A. A picture, but I was like. How do we make it our own? And he was wise enough to be like wool. Let's let's take inspiration. Create a different pattern, and then where you will actually be because the stages large, but where the camera will actually focus lead that be where the design like interfaces and Intersex because that's what you're gonNA see the most onscreen, and he was right and what I love about HBO is that they? They respected the vision because I didn't realize how expensive backdrops or I did it I was like I want that. And obviously we have budgets and They were like wall to have that made. It's going to be x amount of douse of dollars. I was like oh well. I was I. don't know anybody like in a like a a wilder shop or something like. How do we make this work? And so then there was this notion of like Wilkin. We put it on a sheet and then just. Put a picture on a and print it out and if you know me I'm super anal in a lot of different ways very specific and I was like. Will we be able to get like through that? Though I wanted to be able to shine through and really have the three div fact, and and they were like no, because the sheet is just, it is like the light has to be on the sheet already. How's that don't like this I was like I. Really don't like this. And so it was like a thing that by the grace, of God they went back to Hbo Hbo gave us. Leeway in the budget to make it happen. because I was like I again I thought if I only get one of these, hopefully I'll get more, but if only get one of these I want it to be done as excellently and perfectly as possible. If this is my one shot, and so that's how the state came back. Because I was like you know what says Africa I. Don't know, but like this pattern said to me strength and said to me. Me, L. Different and then I was just like again. I'm very specific. I had the theme song created by an artist named mid low, because I always liked to come out on stage with high energy, and you know most of the songs I like one of the songs that used on tour with ti in Jay's brim out to which I was graciously towed. Whose budget is going to pay for that and I was like you're not wrong and so. You know Swiss beads. One of those producers that love that had like the upbeat songs than just made. You want to dance and I was like. I need like a Swiss be high kind of song and mid low, and the producer Mike Bombs. They created the my mind made things song and Israel was like great. We can use that. And because I knew because I told Chris Robinson our director that I wanted to actually make a music video when I came out, and he does music videos for Drake and Chris Brown and everybody. I was like as things are getting comedy special, but it's really a documentary music video in comedy special. And then for me my. Is Always something that I am very very specific about I? Did like thirteen twelve thirteen city tour before we actually shot the special and every city was different I knew that I I liked black. I knew that I wanted like you know the shorts, or if if I'm doing heels than his boots, or if I do sneakers than it's like these like Iraq sent the whatever it is, it has to make a statement and every comedian. Every black comedian pays homage to Eddie Murphy's delirious Red Jumpsuit. It's like a leather like a moment it was it was a fashion moment. It was a comedy moment. It was like connick and I was like. Why am I doing? Read. But like I will get Laura. WHO's? So I was like. Let me get as many Africans as possible at to. To further division, because for me, if like. If I win, we all win. So who can pull up at the same time because I don't ever answer something, not believing it's not to be a moment. I know if I do something I want to do it so well. That becomes a moment, and Laurent literally created that outfit. Overnight fluids from La to DC landed to me at three forty, five got on a five PM playing back to La and I hit the stage at seven o'clock like it was a crunch time. Our situation and I would always say. Even, if my jokes bomb, my outfit better be the bomb, so that's my. That's my thing like the hopefully. These jokes make it, but if they bomb. My Office be tight though. So, you've you've told the? Of how he started doing comedy in almost every interview you've done it's. It's one of the great comedy sort of origin stories. which is you two thousand six? You asked to enter Miss Nigeria in America pageant last minute. You're asked. What's your talent going to be? You didn't have a talent. Let until the next part of it, so then what happens? So, I didn't have a talent, and so I prayed because at that point I. had you know this I was twenty? Maybe twenty two at this point and I became a born again Christian in college freshman year when I was seventeen. So I you know been developing this like relationship with with God and this was probably one of the first time that like he was making a demand me in a way that I was. Oh, I got it. Listen to him also like I can't just. Pray and like. Like let go like he wants me to do something. That's uncomfortable. Wait I didn't realize that that's how this relationship was going to work. So anyway I prayed, and I heard always buried. Say do comedy and I was like. What are you talking about? Like no, that's not even a thing that I wanted like. How does? Not Do also my funny I don't want to find out like it was. There are so many there were so many. Marks that came up with that one comment that I was like immediately I knew this has to be God because I wouldn't be fighting it so much because if it was like me I'd like. Let's do it, but because I was. Definitely, not me, not hold on. Hey, guys, let's another team, huddle guys. God has gone crazy. I don't know where he went, but he's clearly out to lunch and I again I heard birds say. What else do you have? And it was at that moment. Where might? I hate my back being up against the wall I really I I hate not having any options a do because I'm just like you know as a major in women's so resourceful. It's like you know like you saw in the market scene. It's like okay, you know we'll figure it out like all of those people are entrepreneurs, all of those people in the market like they are creating. And, so for me I'm like I. This is this is my heritage like I will always have an answer and net moments like I don't have an answer. I don't even have anything. The battle God with and I knew like. Girl if you say you go to Bible study in church like you do was the point. If you're not gonNA, listen to him and I was like. You're right and so. I just said Yeah and I've started writing down. What I thought was funny. Growing up with this dual lands as a Niger in an American I mean my audience. There was very Nigerians I was like well. This is the sweet spot and then I was like well. This is not real because I can't perform to only Nigerians like I'm in America. There's there. Americans and Nigerians and then I ended up the DC's fought funniest college student competition, and because I was getting my masters at the time and then I ended up winning for GW which was definitely not Niger in audience, and it was like well. Okay God one more test and it was just like what else do I have to do to tell you like? This is what I want you to do, but it was just so foreign to me, and it felt so. Different than anything I could have ever imagined that I really was like I need assurance that that I heard right because at that point like it was kind of fun getting the feedback, it was kind of fun like having the audience like laugh at something I said sounds like I was kinda getting addicted to that, and then I was like. Oh, but what if this is what I'm supposed to do? And it was. I've spoken to a lot of comedians some who may or may not be religious, but I think you know a lot of them would admit to a certain sort of a lot of them would admit to a sort of spiritual feeling that comes from performing standup that comes from the connection to the audience. You know you. You clearly are getting and giving a lot of energy when you perform. Does it at this point. Does it feel spiritual for you? Would you characterize it that way you know? There is an out of body experience that happens like before I jump on the stage I'm hot mess like my nerves or shy like I still get nervous. I'm like. Is there a way I can back out? And then there's something about when I. My name called if like Nobu, this is showtime. This is your moment like anything else you like it really is an out of body experience like I. Remember Opening for Chris Rock on his total blackout tour and we did Atlanta. We did new. York the Mess Square Garden in theater as well as the Dobie theater. Then then we did Barclay Center now. Barclays was the last show I did for him. All the other show like Atlanta I definitely was like this is my moment I don't know if I'll get another one. 'cause like we haven't gone the other day. And I was like I gotTa make Atlanta. Great and then he called me to do the Elliott new. York shows and again it was like Oh my God. These were the Oscars, so it was like the the gravity of the moment was like poof. And I I felt like every night. Like you know this better, the other something about sixteen thousand people watching me. That was my best performance I have no idea I like that should have been the one I was the most nervous that, but it was something about like you. All of everything else was practiced to get you to this moment. You Bet you bet not mess up and it was like yes, so yes, so and I got all the stage, and it felt like I was never even on that stage. It felt like somebody took over, and that's what it felt like. I did to tapes at the at the for the company. Special were people don't know I had those boots on? I had sprained my leg. By leg during my tour, and so after like the seven o'clock show I'm like hurting, but I'm like you got you never let them see you sweat Yvonne and I'm I'm trying to be focused I'm nervous, because I'm like there's so many lights, and then there's like thirteen cameras, so you know it's like it's my first special like this so I'm just like. Oh, my gosh, there's so much going on. That the seven o'clock shops like this, this can't be the this can't be the special. No and then I. Remember like you'll. You got one more shot this this. This is what you use. Oh everybody on this dream. You got one more shot. Get Right. They went back. My my my ankle was getting swollen. They wrap me up in tape up at some bio. Freeze on! Put those boots back. Back on and for the next sixty minutes. You are not in pain. You are not going to mess up. You're going to give them a show. And it was like that I got on the stage after the second show and I was like Oh. Yeah, that's my special guys. That's my. I was so pumped because it was like I literally again. The same feeling of being Barclay isn't like. Feeling like something came over me. It was a it was confidence, but it was also like I knew like my face was like kicking in like holy. Spirit was like I won't. We didn't come this far just to get this far. Bu, we got work to do. Yeah, you know the special. It's called Mama. I made it and you know there is something of as as you mentioned that sort of. It's a proof that. You know the when God said. Do Comedy Push you sort of in that direction. For you. There's like well. This is what it worked at. You know you made it. Their sort of there is there. You're correct. Be Pushing this direction. You're looking back at this journey. Do. You think about one. Why was it right for you? And also? But why were you the right person to be pushed in this journey? Man? That is a question that is who you are. You are in the spirit brother. You know it's so interesting because I think that. God puts purposes on people before they know it right. It's kind of like a I. Don't know if your listeners are Bible, but like December of Gideon Right. It's like the angel comes getting calls him a mighty warrior Gideon's. Like what are you talking about? Mighty warrior I am the lowest and least okay. My the clan we have been getting. beat up. It's not me I think you. You got the wrong number, and it's in that moment videos like who is what is happening me and I heard td jakes. Gideon had been praying for who got called him to be like he was the answer to the prayer that he was pray and he didn't know that. He was like. Please don't do this to me. Please make me the answer like you send somebody else and so many times like it's so funny. That I was born holding my mom's Iud in my hand so technically I wasn't even supposed to be year. My mom was like I'm done, and then it's like I. Come Out I'm holding the ID then they named me archer of happiness, and then they're like and then for like. Twenty years of my life. They believe I want to be a doctor. But then God is like I'm going to make you a healer. The not do a scalpel, but through humor. And it's it's so. Crazy. 'cause I'm I'm like. ME. Home me. You know really like I got to be like you me. You thought this much about my life that you literally made me the answer. For some and then, and then even for the special to be coming out in such a time as this where there's so much upheaval, there's some there's there is a need for a moment of black joy, because black bodies have been so oppressed. There's so much there's so much in the history of this country and. And just. The upheaval. That's happening anger like yeah, so in this moment where you think this might be the worst time for your special. Come Out I'm going to actually make it the best time. And it's like Oh, you I apologize forever thinking I know more than you I i. I'm sorry. You know and so when you say why meet it's it's still me fulfilling the purpose, and not just like. Hey, guys, let me make you laugh, but like Hey, guys, let me bring a moment of Healey, we are hurting, and if in this moment we can all take a collective timeout. To be, there's still joy that exists within our suffering. There is still hope that exists within our suffering. There is still progress. That can happen and is still celebrations that we will have despite what the world may tell us that we can't have and so to your question, it's like. I don't I'm not questioning anymore. Like I questioned because I'm in awe, but I also know ally. If this is my portion in it is. This is my job. I got a job to do. I'm getting emotional those. What Second So? That's on means it's time for our final segment which is laughing round. It's like a lightning round, but because it's comedy, it's a round. So short questions later questions I promise, you Do you ever favorite? Joke like a street. A favorite joke. Chris Rock. says. Excuse me I was wondering. Is it possible? Everytime yeah. Do you have a joke that you kept on trying, but never worked, and but you think maybe the audience was wrong, and you'll always think it's funny. You South Ryan. man if I did I had it out of my memory, actually no way there was a joke that I thought was funny, and it was it was. It was not and actually use it one time at a request from a friend and the audience. Let me know like no. You lied to me I thought it was funny I've. Never again I won't say. I wouldn't use that dope again. Won't even say what it is. Not? Even. At the top of the season of insecure, my colleague harassed ranked every man on insecure for those who haven't read it. Number one was L-, Thug Yoda number two was jared number three years Andrew, and in last place beyond Scott Foley as a slave owner du Nord was dro. Did you see this list? What what do you think about? What did you think about it? What do you think about it? I saw this list was. Comic. Gold at it's fine I was just like who is this magical humid that has gone through the trouble of breaking all of them and I love the criteria and then was like. Let me go back on his one criteria because also. We had this one guy in the scene. Yeah no I saw I saw I think, but Yoda is perfect, because the as number one he is, he's he's been consistent throughout all four seasons. He is like I. Think this visa. I'm not afraid to be myself I will never use. Words. He's great. And how do you feel about you? Drill being last place, Josephine. Eve. Joe's definitely be the last lady I am. I agree She gets the award for getting right absolutely. She'll be very pleased. There's a last question which is barely a question which is this interview is taking place before the finale of insecure has aired, but we'll. The interview will come out after it has aired so without telling me what happens. What is your answer to how you felt about what you learned? What happens does that make? Way What. Reverse psychology or trying to tell you what happened. Yes all right, so let me try explained against. This interview as you know, it's happening before the finale airs and press has not seen it, but the interview will come out after the finale aired so everyone listening will have watched the finale, so to those people these future us. What do you, WanNa say about the finale? What would your reaction to be? What do you feel like? You want to communicate to these people I will say we needed everything that happen. This season in order to get us to this moment. Perfect! Perfect. Perfect bag to this. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you so much for answers. Is this was fantastic? Thank you. God, bless you have a great day. That's it for another episode of. The Simpsons. Clip was courtesy of Hbo Watch Mama made it and insecure. HBO! Max Follow on social. Media Ashgabat Oregon. Good one is produced myself Gilani Carter. Are Chong and Cumulus Alison got freakish ended our themes though. Writer Abune Right. The shown apple podcast. I've stars. Yvonne comments questions were laughing round suggestions a good one podcast dot com, or tweet us at one podcast. I'm Jesse David. Boxing me at Jesse David. Good one! That's the production of culture and the Bach of media podcast network. Back next week with Hossan Menage. Have a good one.

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