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Mahmudr in the Geluk and Kagy Traditions
"Maybe we'll start with. Way Your interest in Mahamoud. Way Did that how did that come about? When was that? So since by had? I probably I got interested in Mahamoud per se early in Grad school or perhaps a little bit before that might regional interest in Buddhism back in high school days early in college was mostly in San and I always expected that would be the form of Buddhism than I ended up practicing but the as says avid my then girlfriend now wife and I ended up traveling overland India in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, three into nineteen, seventy four, and then ended up at coupon monastery just outside. Katmandu where we studied where Rama Tipton yesterday in London Lumberton. And those famous co concourses which are still ongoing by merrily introductions allom Rim to the stages of the path of course. Llamas, OBA has a particular particularly in those days maybe a little. So I don't know He had a particular teaching style wary if you're at a month course, you could pretty much be sure that half the time was going to be spent in the lower rounds. So he did delight in. Those and Mama yesterday would, of course come in and remind us that we all had put a nature. So it was kind of A. Tough. Cop Nice cop routine and away. And you know he was he was a it was kind of overwhelming for me despite my interest. But as despite my having majored in religion in college and so forth. But. All the complication you know both the details of rim, how Karma works all the different realms, the scholastic arguments back and forth about beginning less mind an emptiness and so forth all of it was incredibly impressive. They were particularly impressive as practitioners as people who lived out what they had studied on what they were teaching but I I also began in in the few the few hours that were that I had hadn't disposal to to read. I think it was probably some poems by Miller wrap up where Branson book by John Blow Fouls, which just had a little bit of discussion. Mahmoud. and. The way the way I took it brightly. At times this reminds me a lot of ZAP it a bid, it short circuits all the detail, all the ritual, all the scholasticism. All those kinds of things that just tells you to realize the nature of your mind. So it appealed to me. Even that? Sort of a a hidden card. Yuba. Lurking inside this is fledgling gay look back. And I kept that in mind when. Year or so you're a half later I ended up graduate school at the University of Wisconsin, studying under shapes up SOPA. who was the first as far as I know the first Betton tenure at American University, certainly the first Tibetan guess. Who was tenured at American University and again to to study with guesses OPA both in the context of the graduate program that Wisconsin and at the deer park would a center as it's now called. Founded. In the mid seventies was too steep yourself in again are a great deal of the the complexity, the ritual, the richness, certainly of of the gaylord actual tradition and once again. The. Reading Mamo drawn decide what kind of balanced helped balance things out for me. So the number of the papers I wrote at Grad School, you know we're on the Mosit- as of India or or soccer punditocracy critiques of Mahamoud, draw various topics like that. So I, you know even in Grad school I I had this interest You know it sometimes said about Chinese practitioners. They're confusions during the day and Taoists. At Night I. Think a part of me that's was during the day and At night. Of course went when I began to discover that was that there was a whole Gaelic tradition of Mambo. I'd been vaguely aware of because it was a little translation that had come out at the library of Tibetan works in archives and. I read through that and So you know after I got Grad school sort of begun by my teaching career. I. Along with rank, of course, bring my dissertation into book form of pretty much everybody wants to do at some point are almost everybody wants to. Buy began to again sort of on the side begin to begin to investigate Gaylord Mabul dress, and so that's at least in terms of the genesis of this I. Guess That's That's how I would I would explain it. In a this dungeon have any. Teachers. Teaching. Mahmoud to you know you know during we went and saw on trump shays league. Once in Chicago he was notoriously late. He was typically drinking soccer when he was typically brilliant. So you know everything we had heard was true. And I think later in the seventies and into the eighties I began to to go occasionally to cognitive teacher but no, I did not have a regular. Teacher and I. I guess it's fair to say that I really never had a sort of regular teacher although in more recent years I've studied some weakening. European. Fortunately for us has his world had ordered in Minneapolis just. Just a few miles from where we live. So now, my my interest I mean I was interested in cognitive because if you're interested in mom will address even from the Gaylord stand going you clearly have to begin researching. Kogyo because. Even, some texts presents the. Is Fine Llamas. Book with. Alex. burs. The gala argue slash kagyu tradition of Mahamoud address. Implies that it's a kind of a sing credit tradition or a synthetic traditional might be a slightly better word So you and it's very clear that the first Panchen Lama who was one of the tutors of style on one of the truly great figures Gael history. He clearly was familiar with cargill literature and and it would seem with some Kogyo practices so. In my in the process of beginning to research, Ma Gala Mambo. Dry Inevitably had to begin reading at least a lot in In the calculator corresponded with scholars argue. Of various sorts Michael. Roy. David Jackson others. Of course the way these things work you you've you dig into you want your insulin gay look initially you dig into the cog you and then you get into the cockpit realize Oh God. All this comes from India and you've got to go back and look again at Sada. High and the other message you gotta look at the time. TRAS. Very, clearly, the textual a kind of sources for Mahmoud to discourse and behind that. Then of course, always these claims that there's a Sutra Mabul dry and so you begin digging around in sutures that may mention the word or may talk about ideas that are similar and so. I ended up going down this kind of rabbit, hole. That led me deeper and deeper back into Indian tradition and it started out as really odd. I'll do a few little translations and right any production suddenly was this Gargantuan projects that threatened to be about just about everything in. Indian. In Tibetan. Buddhism. Because in a weird way Mamo Dra, it was said, could be found everywhere in India, wants about bottles.
California wildfire death toll reaches 22, with 13 unaccounted for
"The death toll from wildfires burning throughout California Saturday rose to 22 at the north Complex. Fire burning imbued Yuba Implements counties. Three more bodies were discovered in rubble, raising the death toll from that fire to 12 Butte County. Sheriff Corey Honey says 13 people remain unaccounted
DoJ gives Uber breach response one star
"Joe Sullivan the former chief security officer of has been charged with obstruction of justice. His fight yet with companies finding out to notify regulators about it's two thousand sixteen dodge. We covered this time. This was the story where you know a couple of hackers breach some systems over I think they they We're going off the individual employees, get accounts soffer. Then using that defined aws creates enough of things like that and then breaking into corporate environments, stealing some data and trying to ransom. And Yeah, this this pair of individuals went after Uber got a whole bunch of daughter out an an Uber Paid D'Amato quote unquote bounty to delete the daughter and said they do make. Legitimate stuff and we talked about it at the time and it was a little bit Kinda unclear exactly. How it unfolded. It was when we didn't see details about what happened until I think it was a year or two later was the change of leadership at Hoover. Then the details came out and yeah that's always been grinding its way through the Aj since then and yes, the guy finally charged. The people go pretty mixed opinions about about this 'cause. You Know Bug bounties and ransoming I'm being held hostage and all those things are they exist on a continuum I'm yeah and those little bit of wiggle on on on the spectrum. Well, there's a little bit of wiggle and then there's this happen here. And mean at the time I've gone back and I've listen to a two thousand seventeen report I actually had an uber supergrass feeding me Info on that one, right. So it was that was a report and it has actually held up pretty well. So what basically happened is that someone got into Esra bucket by as you say, you know targeting like a private get pulling a secret out and getting in there grabbed a whole bunch of data and then tried to shake down the company, and this is where it gets interesting because essentially what they did is they use that payment process. Well, this is what we reported in twenty seven. They use that pilot process to try to essentially docks the attack is now it looks from my reading of the DOJ complains it looks like they didn't actually successfully dachshund through that process, but we're able to a couple months later and I'm not sure if that's because they split the payments because I think they paid off up front and then off again but but look into the day was actually able to figure out the identity of the attack is they physically sent off to. Their their residents and made them sign about a bunch of documents and they retrieved the computers forensically a them and to prove that the data was gone but the point is like once that docs them there was no way. These guys were going to do anything with that data because they would be dimed immediately. Right. So that seems like a pretty good dot com. But where they really screwed up is they did not actually report this to regulate all the FBI end these went on to target companies, which is also something we reported. In, two thousand seventeen. Now, what makes this particularly egregious in the view? The DOJ is that Erba was in the middle of an F. T. C. investigation revolving around a twenty four fourteen data breach and the reason, the FCC. So Cranky, about this is that also involved accessing Dada in S. three buckets. So the DOJ is arguing that this was a cover up on the part of Yuba and when you read through the the complaints. The criminal complaints it looks like a reasonable argument eyesight look they prepared as for the attackers which got them to acknowledge that they never downloaded rubel Datta. When clearly they did further that one hundred thousand dollars was way more than they paid for any other bugs. We actually have some audio here from the US Attorney for the northern district of California. David Anderson Talking about the Sullivan indictment here he is Sullivan did not report the twenty sixteen hack after quired. Instead Sullivan Hid the twenty sixteen hack from the public and the FTC. Under Solvents Direction overpaid the twenty sixteen hackers one hundred thousand dollars in Bitcoin in return for promises not to tell anyone about their hack Sullivan disguised payment by calling it. A Bug bounty of bug bounty can be illegitimate means of compensating so-called white hat hacker who has discovered a security breach but has not exploited. It is not a bug bounty to pay a hacker who has taken your data and is threatening to expose it. Sullivan's desperation to hide the twenty sixteen hack is revealed by the size of a payment. The fact that it was paid to the hackers before he. Even learned of their true names. After the Twenty Sixteen Payment Sullivan reviewed and approved statements to the F. T. C. that failed to reveal the two thousand sixteen hack. When Uber hired new management in twenty seventeen Sullivan deceived them also in their guilty pleas the admitted to hacking other companies using similar techniques to those used in the Uber Hack If Sullivan had promptly reported the Uber Hack those other acts of those other companies may have been prevented at this point. My prediction is Joe. Sullivan's going to have a pretty hard time. Sydney win it's laid out like it is in the complaint does you know thous- look kind of compelling them and you can argue that the outcome that they that Yuba got you know for their customers data was perhaps in the end somewhat of success right? That didn't end up. On the underground somewhere. But yeah, laid out like it is it. It looks Kinda scammy. And Yeah I'm probably
Why is this Peruvian farmer suing Germany's largest power company RWE?
"So. You're bad to make a Peruvian Pharma. WHO's suing Germany's largest power company W? A this is a heist could radically disrupt debate over climate action and week you'll also hear from our wwl representatives in a rare interview about the controversial case. Germany's shutting down all power stations over the next twenty years, so it does that mean for the transition of business. And he gone to meet the man who has become a thorn in the side of fossil fuel companies because he's dredging up their own data to challenge them. This is climate in the courtroom pot one. Murder. Looking. I am suing so that the big companies need to take into account that they should not pollute. Way of saying enough is not. He's not paid by anybody to do this. He knew that it would take years. He knew that could be lost. It could be one. He knew that he would probably be facing some animosity on the ground in his village. But. He decided to do this to just show himself and his children that if there is an injustice you can act upon. or It is like a coal. Companies surely won't even feel since they are so wealthy. We need to start from somewhere. The fend ourselves. Another goal. Record. No nobody's asking to shut up shop. We know that this transformation will take decades on the corporations can lead that effort transforming companies from simply providing liquid fuels for example. To invest in carbon capture sequestration to invest in offshore wind, for example particularly in the rich, western, world, concluding Australia where the preponderance of historic emissions have enabled our economies to grow wealthy. We need to decarbonised faster than the developing world so that they can have a chance. Proper development as well. What is the concern of people who live on islands where the water level rises? What is the concern of people who suffer from hurricanes that haven't been there before? Their concern is that greenhouse gases must be reduced greatly of course, our responsibility as a power generator through reduce your to emissions, and that's what we're doing. Closing down power stations, investing into renewable supporting co two targets, also the embiid ones porting energy transition. Third episode where taking you to the Philippines for human rights showdown over climate change that's commanding attention, even in the face of president deterred has discords for drug uses and jailing of journalists, but first. Why is a Peruvian Pharma and Mountain God in the central Andes, attracting such international attention? My Name is Dr Road of. I'm a lawyer in private practice on my practices located in Hamburg. Germany and I represent so Luciano you in his quest and case against. With just German Energy Utility look the road of a high and is regular attorney in private practice, but before that she co founded the pioneering Ngo, the Climate Justice Program in two thousand and three ended her PhD on international climate, protection law, after years working in climate policy. What I find is that people have been coming to me increasingly in the last ten years. Asking for advice on what you know what you could do with respect to the increasing inadequacy of action with regard to what the science tells us. And then in two thousand, fourteen I decided to take on the first case with just this RWE case since they've multiplied and the man at the heart of bet, landmark case was half a world away at the end of a correctly online. My name is sold. Luciano you year I am and guide. From family of a small apartments, daughter I am a forty years of age or the. So who lives in the bustling town of us and in the mountains, above what else is a gateway for tourists heading off on hogging adventures in the stunning coordinator Blanca Mountain range of the central, Andes. But for locals, those mountains are life. Komo From clouds he goes to the moments and these hills with our culture in the area. There is a great dependency on the fence in agriculture in what us. The Mon I are everything for a farmer in a month and guide. It is like an office that gives you subsistence cool more fifteen. About two. Hundred. And my client is assistance the with his family in the Small Village Code Yuba. I'm he plans potatoes and vegetables, and I'm raises Guinea pigs to then have food. He has children and his own old parents. So in the season he will take tourists up to the glaciers and Laguna. And so did his father when he was little bit younger,
"Standing above the angle. Bright Damn A army corps US Army Corps of Engineers Dam on the main stem of the river. Where is that though in Nevada county? We're about halfway between Tahoe. And Sacramento. A little north of that would not actually in Nevada. Nope we're in the state of California and we are standing right between Nevada County and Yuba County and we're standing on the beautiful Yuba River which flows down to the feather. And then the Sacramento from there down into the San Francisco Bay in the ocean. So you were a county board of Supervisors member when you first came here. Tell us about your first experience with this. Damn down a few different times over my life had been here my whole life. It was built and commissioned in nineteen forty seven by the Army Corps of Engineers so that people could resume hydraulic mining blocks hundreds of miles of potential fish passage for fish. Come from the ocean and go up into the high sierra to lay their eggs so when I first came to the damn understanding that the state of California had targeted this spot em federal government as maybe the best place to restore passage at the very first meeting we went to the. Us Geological Survey stood up and said you can't do anything to that. Damn until you look at the material behind it is holding back a whole bunch of mercury and that was the very first time I had ever heard anything about mercury and the state of California and its role in the goal rush. Or how long have you lived in this part of the world? My family came to California as part of the Gold Rush. We were quakers. Escaping the east coast. Ten violent religious oppression moved out to become farmers I was raised in Concord California on that form and in one thousand nine hundred five. I married a farmer and we moved to Nevada county beautiful organic farm in a place called Penn Valley. Tell us about this county and just its history and the gold rush because it is a lot of history here. Nevada county was ground zero of the California Gold Rush. Far More gold was taken out of this county and specifically this river that we're standing above than any other place in the state of California. It's where the very destructive technique called hydraulic mining which is using power water monitors to to scrub mountainside. Looking for gold is where that was invented. They started to dam the rivers and convey that water over to these huge hydraulic mining activities. Which were recovering thousands of of gold but millions of tons of sediment not material here from Nevada county rolled down the river and kept flooding the Sacramento Valley and eventually the farmers downstream who are really tired of having their houses filled with all this debris sued and stopped the activity known as hydraulic mining. Was the connection between Mercury and gold. Tell us how that process works. Everybody came to understand that the very dramatic impact of hydraulic mining because it was blowing these huge amounts of sediment down the river. But people didn't understand. Was that before they use. Those hydraulic monitors. They would treat the cliffs with Mercury Mercury on the cliff. Pound the cliffs with water the water to wash down into sluices and in those sluice boxes were also filled with mercury. Why did they use mercury keep? Mercury helped enhance called processing. It has a unique ability to amalgamate or hold the gold. So little tiny flecks of gold. That might be smaller than an eyelash would fall into the pan. But they're just wash out unless they were captured by mercury. Mercury would grab the gold. Make it heavy fall to the bottom of the sluice. When they turn the water off. Miners would come through and suck that mercury out of the bottom of the sluice they would take the mercury put it in a hot place they would call retort it like think of a hot iron frying pan and the mercury sort of melting off the top or or training into gas off the top and at the bottom of your pan. You'd have sparkling gold. The problem is curious. Mercury is a very dangerous neuro toxin. And it's dangerous in a variety of ways so badly that the United Nations World Health Organization Amnesty of California have both named it. The top bioaccumulative toxic material of concern. Mercury is a neuro toxin. It affects the developmental human being so our ability to deform our nerves are heart or lungs. Our brains it creates Serious birth defects and people have focused on that for many many years but as research has been done we learn that it continues to damage us as adults. It seems to be causing problems with our hearts with our lungs and with our various different organs which accumulate mercury. So it's a known neuro toxin and that's strike one against it strike to is it bioaccumulates in our body. It doesn't really easily leave our bodies many of the things we take in. Let's take alcohol. You drink it and two days later. It's all out of your body not so with Mercury it stores itself in your body and builds up over time strike. Three is that this material does. What's called bio magnifies in the environment? So the most dangerous place for a piece of mercury to be is in water particularly in warm water. Mercury is taken up by the little bugs at the bottom of the food chain. They eat a little bit of it. It transfers up to the bigger bugs and then the bigger bugs and then the fish and then the humans or as we watch here today. The waterbirds that are flying around might pick up. Officiant eat it. They are eating a highly toxic potent load of mercury so much so that the lake. We're looking here like Anglo. Bright has fish advisories on it that advice that a woman of childbearing age eat not a single bass out of this lake fish mornings. I run along this Anchorman River. There will along the Sacramento. And then you go down to San Francisco Bay. The same warnings that so it's in fact the entire ecosystem. The mercury that is in the Delta is entirely from these legacy minds in the areas. We are the gold mines and sadly for California. We had a unique geology which led us have mercury in our state as well. The coastal range has the mercury minds. Whether it's the ones down in San Jose or the ones Tamales Bay or up over on the clear lake there are serious old legacy mercury minds which are contaminating the coastal range and the tributaries that drain from there into the bay or into the ocean where we are everywhere. There was gold mining. They use this mercury not only for the the hydraulic mining but also for the hard rock mines which dominated the landscapes for one hundred years and all of those continue to leak mercury into the state of California water bodies every time it rains
"Since one thousand nine hundred sixty. California has officially been known as the Golden State. And that's because as the plaque reads California's development and remarkable prosperity began with the discovery of gold humanities. Love of gold is fairly bizarre of all the hundred and eighteen elements in the periodic table. Gold is the only one which we humans have always gravitated towards gold was used earliest currencies. Gold joined us in marriage and was used to produce most precious artifacts. Maybe the secret to our love of gold is simply that it's beautiful and never tarnishes in eighteen. Fifty-three my father's great grandfather Henry. Cohn traveled from a tiny stelle. In what is now Poland to Hamburg where he boarded a boat and six months later. After walking across the isthmus of Panama Henry ended up in San Francisco. Henry Cohn was part of the Goldrush the largest mass migration in American history bringing about three hundred thousand people to California. It all started in eighteen. Forty eight when James Marshall found gold in his piece of land at Sada's mill in Coloma. The News of gold quickly spread around the world. At first the gold could be picked up from the ground but later on it was recovered from the streams and rivers with the use of panned. The gold rush peaked in eighteen fifty. Two and after that the Gold Rassoul getting thinner and harder to reach soon largescale and more environmentally damaging methods of traction cold hydraulic mining were employed. One hundred and seventy years later on the environmental legacy of the gold rush a significant and yet acknowledged as we'll discover in today's episode mercury which is a deadly neurotoxin was elemental to the process of gold-mining today large quantities of mercury from the gold. Russia's still polluting California posing a risk to every kind of living organism including us. I travel up to California's gold country to meet with Izzy Mountain. Izzy is a community organizer and environmental advocate with over forty years of experience working in rural communities to economic and environmental justice. She is what with a wide variety of constituencies from tribal leaders to Maynas and from farmers to forest is is. He first entered local politics. Nevada County Planning Commission at during the nineteen ninety s and later while serving on the Nevada County Board of supervisors. Miss Martin led the fight to put the South Yuba river into the state. Wild and scenic river program is he became. Ceo The Sierra Fund Sixteen years ago she conceived of and led the effort that resulted in the publication of the Sierra Funds. I report on the impact of the Goldrush mining's toxic legacy and has worked for the last decade to bring attention to golds dark shadow on a very hot day. Is Ian. I climb to the top of a damn standing above the angle. Bright Damn A army corps US Army Corps of Engineers Dam on the main stem of the river. Where is that though in Nevada county? We're about halfway between Tahoe. And Sacramento. A little north of that would not actually in Nevada. Nope we're in the state of California and we are standing right between Nevada County and Yuba County and we're standing on the beautiful Yuba River which flows down to the feather. And then the Sacramento from there down into the San Francisco Bay in the ocean. So you were a county board of Supervisors member when you first came here. Tell us about your first experience with this. Damn down a few different times over my life had been here my whole life. It was built and commissioned in nineteen forty seven by the Army Corps of Engineers so that people could resume hydraulic mining blocks hundreds of miles of potential fish passage for fish. Come from the ocean and go up into the high sierra to lay their eggs so when I first came to the damn understanding that the state of California had targeted this spot em federal government as maybe the best place to restore passage at the very first meeting we went to the. Us Geological Survey stood up and said you can't do anything to that. Damn until you look at the material behind it is holding back a whole bunch of mercury and that was the very first time I had ever heard anything about mercury and the state of California and its role in the goal rush. Or how long have you lived in this part of the world? My family came to California as part of the Gold Rush. We were quakers. Escaping the east coast. Ten violent religious oppression moved out to become farmers I was raised in Concord California on that form and in one thousand nine hundred five. I married a farmer and we moved to Nevada county beautiful organic farm in a place called Penn Valley. Tell us about this county and just its history and the gold rush because it is a lot of history here. Nevada county was ground zero of the California Gold Rush. Far More gold was taken out of this county and specifically this river that we're standing above than any other place in the state of California. It's where the very destructive technique called hydraulic mining which is using power water monitors to to scrub mountainside. Looking for gold is where that was invented. They started to dam the rivers and convey that water over to these huge hydraulic mining activities. Which were recovering thousands of of gold but millions of tons of sediment not material here from Nevada county rolled down the river and kept flooding the Sacramento Valley and eventually the farmers downstream who are really tired of having their houses filled with all this debris sued and stopped the activity known as hydraulic mining.
Memorial Day weekend stokes fear of coronavirus spread
"Weekend is here and in lots of places they're worried people will revert to post pandemic habits and packin done a really good job controlling the spread of probate and we want to keep it that way Linda booth is with the south Yuba citizens league in California there Paul Kenitra will be watching over the beach in Point Pleasant New Jersey the most important months for this town for our businesses for the municipality are the months of July and August and that's why it's so important that we get this right the first time governor Cuomo reminding new Yorkers of the new fifty percent capacity rules that state beaches no contact activities obviously social distancing will be enforced masks are required to be war worn with social distancing is impossible is now possible new model from children's hospital of Philadelphia has health officials concerned about a second wave of coronavirus
"yuba" Discussed on Crime Junkie
"Okay. Ashley I'm going to be up front about this because I already gave you the heads up when I found this prop it but as a reminder to you a warning for all of our listeners. I'm awarding this problem. The month posthumously. Lucky the golden retriever mix passed away from a battle with cancer when here's a fit over thirteen years old but his story definitely grandma interest and I think our views will appreciate it to know boy so here. We go our listener. Morgan submitted the story of the first dog lucky and when Morgan was a kid she loved visiting local animal shelter on weekends but she spent with her dad. They go and pet. The dogs play with them but always with understanding that they were doing it because they were never going to any of the last words but also like you know it's important for rescue. Dogs be socialized around people for their own being and honestly ours. Too but yeah. They weren't going to get a dog mainly because Morgan's dad lived in an apartment. Plus her parents had shared custody of her idea of having shared custody of a dog to sounded like a little bit downdraft sounds a little bit messy but when. Morgan was ten. Her Dad got engaged to a woman who had a fenced in backyard which changed everything and one day. They were visiting a shelter. Play with the dogs and Morgan met her dog. He was sweet. Golden retriever mix who had little white socks and a little white patch on his chest. Which little fluffy retriever pause with white? I just can't. He was sitting so patiently on the other side of the fence. While all the other dogs were barking and jumping around and going crazy and obviously her dad was like friendly reminder. We're only there to play on the not So they do that but Morgan cried all the way because she knew that this dog was her on. Are you crying already? I've about that is so. Here's one of my favorite parts of the story is the very next day. Morgan's future step. Mom went right back to the shelter and adopted this guy for organ and when she got there there was actually another family. Looking to adopt. Him and Morgan said that to this day. She has no idea how her mom was able to get him but she basically said. I'm not leaving without the stock. I love already got a win so once all the paperwork was done. The shelter handed her this giant binder with a notebook in it as well as like all of the dogs health records and stuff like that and this shelter actually had worked with a local women's prison that put a dog training program in place in the prison facility and lucky had been fostered and trained by an inmate. Which may I? I don't know about you but like I love hearing stories about these programs. Because due to they help like local shelters so much like fostering and training and that helps dogs get adopted faster. But it's also super therapeutic for the inmates and start like we habilitation which like two birds one stone. I love programs like this so they get lucky home and start flipping through the notebook that came with him and it's actually his training notebook from the prison program and this notebook was build with meticulous notes and like almost journal entries detailing what a dog lucky had been how his training progressed and things he struggled with within the process and the whole family was amazed at what incredible job is inmate had done in kind of recording. Lucky life behind bars. And that's what I noticed the name on the front of the notebook. Dr Deborah Green and the whole family was in shock. They knew who doctor was and what she had done. Oh they were like familiar with this person. Whatever crime they committed yes so I was not at all. Have you ever heard of this person? No okay so I find that really wild 'cause Andrel yes that Anne rule actually wrote a book all about this woman. Oh my gosh. So it's like it's like a big case. Yes so. The book is called Bitter Harvest a women's fury a mother's sacrifice and I haven't read it but I'll tell you a little bit about what happened so back. In October of Nineteen ninety-five. Dr Green was a local Kansas City. Doctor who set her own home on fire and she escaped the fire with one of her three children but two of them died in the home and she her husband had had a rocky relationship. He'd actually recently moved out of the home a few months prior to the fire because he believed he was being poisoned by Deborah. Oh my gosh and according to ABC News when the police were called to the home. In what I think was a domestic dispute like a month before the fire. They said that Deborah was kind of acting weird and when they searched the house just to make sure like everyone was safe in okay. They found her beans which those they're used to make rice in a crazy crazy dangerous poison. And if you've watched breaking bad you know that and decorating was eventually arrested. In November of nineteen ninety-five it was charged and later convicted of one count of aggravated arson for setting her home on fire. First degree murder in the deaths of her two children who died in the fire two counts of attempted first degree murder in the fact that when she left her home on fire all three children had been in the home and obviously poisoning her estranged husband. Did her husband died in the fire as well. He didn't because he had moved out. He knew a couple months before so he did not. He did have like ongoing health problems and died shortly after having been poisoned that long could not figure out what was wrong with him because he's really really difficult to detect. His poisoning actually presented in a lot of like abdominal and gastrointestinal issues and he had recently gone overseas. He thought he'd kind of maybe water. Practice something there but nothing ever really panned out. So she ended up taking an Alfred Lee which is kind of like. I'm not saying I'm innocent. I'm not saying I'm guilty. But there's enough to convict me if I believe. Yeah it's basically say well and usually it's still in saying I'm innocent but I recognize that if we were to go to trial it looks bad and I would probably go to jail right and so. She's currently serving two concurrent forty year prison sentences and this is such an old case. I couldn't find a ton of information on it outside the book and a couple of Articles. I did read an article from the KC star that seated that. She filed for an appeal regarding her sentencing. Back in two thousand fifteen but it had been denied. And there's not really been anything since then has been Leonidas. How did our like sorry for like the Mini Crime Junkie in the middle of property of the month and it's just going to say like our province of the month story went to like a full on crime. Yeah I couldn't help it. I read this email from. We're getting I was like I have to tell lucky story so again here. Morgan and her family are welcoming their brand new dogs family and learning more and more about him from a convicted murderer and it kind of became like a morbid joke within the family to say things like don't accept food from. Lucky lucky loan with matches or home back when lucky was locked up but lucky lived a lovely and full life to the age of thirteen when he was diagnosed with cancer and Morgan's Dad. Who all those years ago was so adamant about never getting like Ireland. Because I already know what you're GonNa say it's always. The DADS Yawkey was the most affected. Yeah and he went to increase lengths to make these last months as comfortable as possible and shortly after past dad and step. Mom tried to get another puppy but it was too soon for Dad. We really just weren't ready to replace the best dog ever but Morgan did tell me that just recently. They did adopt new dog. Who looks just like lucky and I love this so much. New Puppy was trained as a service dog but couldn't quite make the cut so we got adopted and I feel like that's me wanting to be a detective like really want to do it. We're going to start a podcast but new dog and dad loved to sit on the Couch in Dad's barn and listen to talk radio but Morgan thinks in honor. It might just be time to introduce them to true crime. Podcast like crime donkey. I love it. I love lucky story so much again. I can't imagine adopting a dog and being like Oh also. A murderer raised up for a while yet again. It could not have been more crime junkie appropriate. I love it so much okay. So that's lucky story Ashley. We usually under episodes with adoptable dog but we have a really great track record of picking dogs that adopted before I before. The episode comes out before episode airs. So I think we're GONNA shift gears a little bit and I want to tell you about a shelter in Kansas and Missouri. Kansas City area. Where Dr Deb? Green Live called Casey pet project and they have cats and dogs. I was scrolling through their puppies today. They have a ton normal ones. I suggest looking at all of them. Because they're amazing. But you can find them at Casey pet project DOT ORG check them out. If you're in the area guys. Thanks for listening. And we'll see you next month for any preparatory..
"yuba" Discussed on Crime Junkie
"Now. Joe was so happy to finally see people. I mean he needed help. Get my God. This guy just had a heart attack so he goes running out of his car tries to flag them down but he says that when he called out to the group the headlights turned off. And all the noises stopped. But that's not the end of his story. He tells police that some time later he again sees lights out his car window not headlights. This time but flashlight beams. He calls out again for help but as soon as he does the lights. Go Out Again. And whoever was out there goes away? Police are understandably pretty skeptical about this whole story and honestly they don't really know what to make of it. They wonder if maybe this guy was seeing things or hearing things or I mean both I mean he did just have a heart attack us in the middle of nowhere on a mountain road alone the dead of night I mean. What are the chances that he'd come across a group of men and a woman holding a baby? It just didn't seem logical but Joe tells them that when his car finally ran out of gas after running for hours and hours he gave up on being rescued and decided to take his chances and walk down the mountain for help now along the way in the place where he had heard the voices. He passed an empty car. It was stuck in snow just sitting there in the middle of the road. Police asked him to elaborate on the car and when he does all skepticism washes away. Today's episode was brought to you by Brooklyn so there are few things I enjoy more than sleeping in. I'm generally night owl but I have kids. I N specifically a toddler who is convinced sheetings yogurt and crayons no later than seven thirty every morning. So when I'm in bed I went to be in those luxurious comfortable. Amazing betting out there. 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And if you can't wait you can get ten percent off your first order and free shipping on all new sheets right now when you use Promo Code Junkie only at Brooklyn and Dot Com. That's B. R. O. O. K. L. I. N. E. N. Dot Com Brooklyn. Everything you need to live your most comfortable life. Joe Tells Police. The car he saw was a thousand nine hundred. Sixty seven turquoise and white mercury MONTAIGUE THE EXACT CAR. The men were driving not long after they hear from a US Forest Service worker. Who Says Hey. I think I found the car that you guys are looking for. And it's way the heck up in Plumas National Forest. Where is that in location to like everything else in the story so the Plumas National Forest is in northern California in the Sierra Nevada mountains? It's about two and a half hours from Yuba city and two hours from Chico. And actually you know what it's easier just show you here. Take a look at this map. I just sent. Okay Yeah so the three points we've been talking about it kind of makes a V. Shape Chico is on the top left Yuba city is at the bottom and plumas. National Park is way over the top right exactly so the forest ranger who found Jax Kar found it in the middle of this like rarely used unpaid road that runs straight up into the Sierra Nevada. Mountains that top right point on the map. You're talking about now. According to an article I read on strange outdoors. The car was at elevation about forty five hundred feet just at the snow line. Meaning ANYTHING BEYOND. This has snow year round. And we're not talking about like a light dusting of snow. It snowed a lot six to eight feet of snow. And it's not like they would have to go through to get home like there's no reason for them to even be. Anna's area no I mean it's not even remotely on the way she go to. Yuba city is a straight and it's about an hour on the highway. It's mostly flat. There's no snow definitely no mountains and wasn't just a scenic detour either. This is over two hours of driving in the wrong direction. And what I can't get over is I mean we've already established it's not like he was on their way home but this isn't even on the way to anything. It's literally in the middle of nowhere but it is the same middle of nowhere road that Joe had been on the night that he got stuck in the snow and had that heart attack. The car was in the same place that Joe said. He had seen it when he tried to walk down there to get help. And it's right where he said it was and it's right where he said that he'd seen people men and a woman holding a baby in the glow of the car's headlights. So this validates has story at this point. I mean investigators are thinking that it just might be true so investigators decide to head up the mountain and see for themselves hoping that the car and where it was found might help make some sense of Joe Story and hopefully point them in the direction of these five men when they get there. They find the car unlocked. The keys are missing. And there's just this mess of food wrappers and soda bottles and milk cartons on both the front and back seats remnants of their trip to that convenience store just after they left. Chico and the last known sighting of the men now when they get there. The car was stuck in the snow. When you're tires just kind of spin and can't catch the ground so it was stuck like that but it wasn't in a ditch or a big snow bank or anything and not so stuck that they couldn't have just pushed it out. I mean these were not small men. They were all like six feet tall or at least close to it and about two hundred pounds and there were five of them. Remember right they would have had that car unstuck in a hot minute but it looked like they didn't even try like there's no push marks. There's feeding the snow. There's no tire tracks it's stuck and they're not there when police check they see that there's a quarter tank of gas still in the car so the men hadn't run out of fuel because they can't find the keys. Police managed to hot wire. The car and it starts no problems so that rules out any kind of mechanical issues At first police. Initially that these guys must have somehow taken a wrong turn and got lost up there but then they find those four maps that one of the guys brought up there. One of the maps included the same area that the car was founded. All of the maps were neatly folded and left in the glove compartment. You even mentioned earlier that Jack specifically brought all of these maps for me. It's hard to believe that they weren't using them or think to use them if they had gotten lost in like they're clearly lost. The snow would have immediately tipped them off that like. Hey we're not home yet. We're not close to home. Yeah and that's what I thought too but you know it's hard to account for what kind of impact maybe their intellectual disabilities might have had on that kind of reasoning. We'll and again like I said they are using the maps. I didn't say that they weren't like they could be going there intentionally. And using the map to guide them. They're right right. That's totally an option and honestly them intentionally going up. There is kind of what police are thinking at this point but they just don't know why that road that they were on was not very well maintained. It was not used very much. And it's a pretty rough road. But here's the thing when they look at the underside of the car. They're expecting to see damage. I mean again. This is not a paved road. There are potholes. It's crazy but there's no damage.
"yuba" Discussed on Crime Junkie
"Imaging wear woke up with a start at about five. Am on February twenty. Fifth Nineteen Seventy eight. She didn't know why but she just had a bad feeling when she'd gone to bed the night before her son. Ted Wasn't yet home for the night he'd gone to a basketball game in Chico. California with a few friends. It was about an hour away from their home in. Yuba city but she expected him back from the fifty mile. Drive around eleven. I mean maybe midnight at the latest if they decided to stop for a bite to eat or whatever on their way home she knows the only way to calm her nerves is to make sure that Ted is home and in bed where he should be but when she gets to his room she sees that the bed is empty in a low key panic at this point she decided to call Juanita Sterling whose son Bill had gone to the same game with Ted. The night before need tells imaging that her son didn't come home either and that she's actually been up since two worried sick she's already called. Jackman. Drew his mother Melba. Who said the same thing? No sign of her son Jack. Either imaging hangs up and calls Jackie. Hewitt's mother and Jackie's mom says the same thing no Jackie Imaging Center daughter-in-law down the street to talk to the stepfather of the last boy. Gary Matthias by the time the Sun was coming up. It was clear that all five boys were missing. Imaging tries to relax but relaxing is impossible. She knows in her gut. Something is very wrong and she knows that for two reasons burst her son. Ted was scheduled to play in a basketball tournament later that day. Saturday the twenty fifth and to say that he was pumped. It'd be a huge understatement. He laid out his clothes washed shoes and even talking nonstop about this big game winning. It would get his team a week long trip to Los Angeles. He would not miss that game or anything and imaging nuit now. The second reason she knew something was wrong is because Ted's life was very scheduled and very predictable. She knew that he would not had not would never just randomly stay out all night. Ted Always came home and Jackie Jack. Bill and Gary were no different now. I need to stop here and tell you one important thing about these five boys. They're often referred to as both ways but I mean they're not really boys yes like. How old are they? Well for starters. The youngest was twenty four and the oldest was thirty two but their parents and families and the people in their community always referred to them as boys because all five men had intellectual disabilities of some kind. They were all enrolled in this day program for adults their basketball team gateway gators is actually part of that program and all five of them lived at home with their families now physically. They were all healthy very capable and while none of them lived independently most of them function at a relatively high level imaging son. Ted was thirty two and the oldest of the group. He worked for a while as a janitor and as a clerk at a snack bar but at the time of our story he didn't currently have a job. Ted had a heart of gold and he loved to make new friends. He's kind of describe law as childlike. For example Cynthia Gorny wrote a piece for the Washington Post back in nineteen seventy eight and she says that Ted would wave to strangers and he was literally be heartbroken for hours. If they didn't back now. Ted was closest to the youngest of the group twenty four year. Old Jackie Jackie was the most severely disabled of the five. He spent most of his childhood actually in the Napa State Hospital which back then was called the Napa insane asylum. He couldn't read or write or even dial a telephone and he relied a lot on his mother and also his bff Ted now. Jackie was really shy and didn't like being away from home for very long. Definitely not overnight which is why his parents were so worried about him. The Third Man Jack Madrid Aug was thirty and while he to lived at home he was pretty independent. He graduated high school and it spent two years in the army but was said to have had a low. I Q he was one of the only ones in the group that had a driver's license and he had this like nineteen sixty seven turquoise and white mercury. Montego that he was like so proud. I mean God I love his pride and joy and it's actually the car that took the boys to the game and Chico that night now. Jack's closest friend in the group was twenty nine year old bill stirling who left his house that night with fifteen dollars and four different maps of the California area now. Bill had worked for awhile dishwasher but his mother insisted he quit when she found out people were getting him drunk stealing his money at work. They were really taking advantage of him now. Finally the final guy we have in this group is Gary Matthias. He was twenty five years old and a bit of an outlier in this group of guys because he worked for his father's gardening business and before that he'd been in the army like Jack but he was medically discharged due to a psychiatric issue. Unlike the other guys he didn't actually have an intellectual disability at all. He was actually diagnosed with schizophrenia. Had been stable for the last two years. No one is really sure how or why Gary got involved with the gateway projects but he loved it especially their basketball team the gators and he really enjoyed hanging out with the rest of the guys so anyways these are the boys that were talking about these young men. Ted Jackie Jack Bill and Gary and they're all missing. Saturday comes and goes with no word from the boys so finally at eight that evening their parents decide to call the police right away. The sheriff's department puts out an alert asking for the public's help locating these five guys. Big Give a description of Jack's Mercury Montego along with the license plate number but they don't launch into their search right away according to a Sacramento Bee article from nineteen. Seventy eight at this point. They're kind of just watching. I mean remember. These are grown men and while there folks say that it's out of character for them not to come home like the police are a little bit skeptical right but they're alert is an out long when information starts rolling in. They're able to confirm that the guys went to the game in Chico and as a bonus their team actually won. The last known sighting was at a convenience store and she go after the game. This is like just before ten o'clock that night according to the clerk and the clerk says it was memorable because ten. Pm was closing time and the Cork was a little bit annoyed. That these five guys were pulling in right at the end of the night. You know. You're getting ready. Your closing up and the clerk says they buy a bunch of like junky snacks. Candy bars chips that kind of thing and then they left. That's it police. Get another call from a woman who says she saw the guys on Saturday or Sunday. But here's the thing that's interesting. She says that when she saw them they were in a red pickup truck. She said two of them came in to buy food at her store while one went to a phone booth to make a call and the other two state in the truck. But here's the thing I mean beyond this mystery red truck that they're seen in the store that she runs his way up north and like way off the course the boys would have taken to get home from that basketball game so initially police kind or rule out this citing thinking that it's probably not there guys but just then they get a call from dining joe and joe says hey. I think I saw those guys that you're looking for on Friday night. I was driving up this gravel road toward my cabin in the mountains and my car got stuck in the snow and I get out and I'm trying to push it free and in all of this I start having a heart attack. Joe Goes on to tell police that he gets back inside his car with the engine running and the heat on and after a few hours like this sometime between like eleven. Pm and midnight. He says that he starts to hear a whistling sound. So Joe gets out of his car. He looks down the road back behind him down the mountain and about one hundred and fifty feet away. He sees headlights. And what looks like a group of men along with a woman holding a baby? He says they're all outside the car and he can see them in. The glow of Car's headlights.
Mall reopens as rural California counties defy virus order
"State officials in California are preparing to release new guidelines to allow some communities to relax stay at home orders and re open businesses but to northern California counties have already started to the dismay of the top health official for the area we were able to get the full support of the Yuba Sutter county public health director and the counties to fully open so long as it's called a public health recommendations Cuba center mall general manager Natasha Shelton said ours would be limited high touch areas sanitized hand sanitizers available for shoppers and retailers would be using a traffic counters to measure how many people are in their store so that they follow social practices but when the doors opened hundreds of shoppers many not wearing masks streamed in that prompted a warning from the Yuba Sutter public health officer that failure to follow the rules could bring a return of the virus end of stricter regulations on Ben Thomas
Mall reopens as rural California counties defy virus order
"We were able to get the full support of the Yuba Sutter county public health director and the counties to fully open so long as it's called a public health recommendations Cuba center mall general manager Natasha Shelton said ours would be limited high touch areas sanitized hand sanitizers available for shoppers and retailers would be using a traffic counters to measure how many people are in their store so that they follow social practices but when the doors opened hundreds of shoppers many not wearing masks streamed in that prompted a warning from the Yuba Sutter public health officer that failure to follow the rules could bring a return of the virus end of stricter regulations on Ben Thomas
Wacky Khakis: *Chef's Kiss*
"Of Wacky Khakis Deborah each. Tell one story about the world but only one of those stories is true while the other one lie and it's the job of two human children to figure out which one is which and here to referee. Today's game of Wacky Khakis is odd producer. The man who buys US Bagels Lisa. Hi Deborah great to be here today. Know why don't you tell us about today's topic? Why not our FEMA for this episode is shifts kiss? Deborah and Lisa will be telling us about culinary artists who stories are so strange. You'd think it was all made up and of course one of them is all made up. That's not nice dude We should really only true stories on this show. I guess I mean then. We wouldn't really have a game to play so this is all just a game to you. yes okay. That's fine I just WanNa make sure. We're fine Lisa which you please introduce. This week's human child contestant it would be either my pleasure over my honor. I'll tell you that another day are human child. Contestants are lily. You might recognize from the cheer episode. Unless you haven't listened to it yet then you won't recognize her but you will when you listen to it later and her brother. Hudson who you probably don't recognize either way but you will after you listen to this episode. Oh Hi Lili. Hey how come. We're so happy you're here to play. Wacky Khakis are you guys ready? Yeah yes milly. How did you enjoy your time on? The Cheer Episode Is Really Really Fun. What did you learn there? One thing that stuck out to you that you learned on the Cheer Episode People who even ten relate truthful can be liars. That's an important thing we try to communicate on this show as you guys know our topic today is what chef's kiss. I knew that so lily Hudson. You guys know anything about cooking Actually were starting a restaurant with my friend. Wow when when? Can we make reservations for your restaurant? we're still setting it up. Okay does he have to order some curtain. What do you serve at? Your restaurant as lots of stuff so I can't until you all of them but one is clan tender tiny lemon tons and honey. Yeah how about any vegetables? Anything Green starts at the letter now xylophone but it is about stable. You agree with that. We establish in the Cheer Episode Bat Lily. Does NOT CARE FOR ZUCCHINIS. Care for her love. Time to play Wacky Khakis. Deborah Lisa will each have a minute and changed. Tell their stories before the timer sound. We played around of rock paper scissors before you got here. And Lisa was disqualified for trying to use. Actual scissors were barbara shares. Which means Deborah to go first? You're ready to tell the world your story. I can't wait okay. You're timer will begin now. We've all been there before it's seven PM. Were starving and there's nothing good to you in the house. A look through the cabinet reveals little more than canned. Lima beans and the only option is run to the grocery store. Even as your stomach growls for something to eat right now at least those are usually the only options but not so for the residents of Larochelle France hometown to the self-styled wandering chef. Taunt Selene selene French for and Selene is both a renowned French chef and highly regarded mine and for a surprisingly reasonable fee. She will come to your home in full costume and makeup and silently. Prepare a fabulous meal using just the ingredients in your kitchen. One satisfied customer. Maurice took to YELP DOT COM to sing her praises rating. I had nothing in my home. But ten white beans and half a jar of tomato paste but talk Selena arrived and made the most delicious Vegan Pasta and my wife and I have ever tasted. She's also a mime of the highest calibre and had US cracking up for forty minutes. Straight Five Stars Tom. Selene can not be reached by cell phone email or website and it is said that one cannot find her but as though a guardian angel in your our greatest needs. She will find you one important thing to note top. Selene does not do dishes but rather acts out cleaning up as part of her mind routine satisfied customers have described her pretend cleaning as polaris and strangely touching hemmed tie nicely done debra. Thank Lily Hudson. What did you guys think of Deborah Story? It was pretty cool but it didn't sound the most convincing. Should I say it again but this time really sell it just because you don't find Deborah Trustworthy? It's because like I mean no one can just find you buy you boom. Put like the OH. I don't have enough food to really eat anything on instagram. So she wouldn't really know that but Lake Hudson what do you think I think it kind of sounds like a makeup starring? I guess we'll find out it's now time for leases story of a culinary curiosity. Lisa your timer will begin. Tripadvisor DOT COM is the make or break online platform for restaurants across the world. If enough people leave five-star reviews. Your restaurant can become the most popular dining spot in all of London. Even if it doesn't exist this is what a man named Ube Butler discovered in two thousand seventeen when he paid a bunch of his friends to leave five star reviews for a fake restaurant that was in reality. Justice Jed in his backyard. He called it the shed at Dulwich and advertised it on tripadvisor as a chic and modern restaurant that served moods rather than meals. The photos of his food were all fake as well including a chocolate Mousse that was actually just a sponge covered in brown pain as the shed became the number one rated London eatery tripadvisor Butler was swarmed with reservation requests. Not Actually prepared to serve anyone any food let alone the best food in London. He told collar after caller. That is highly exclusive restaurant fully booked up for months which only made them want to eat there. More Butler finally decided to allow guests eat at his fake restaurant for one night that winter to hide the appearance of his house which looked like a five-star dining establishment he convinced customers to wear a blindfold until they entered a dockyard guests were served frozen microwave dinners and canned soup with fresh herbs sprinkled on top of course to make it look a fancy diners reported that they loved the unique experience and were eager to return they were in Paris last night. Yuba giggled about his gullible customers. And tonight there at the. Shan't and dime very nicely done Lisa Hudson Lily. What did you think of that story? It sounded a bit more convincing than this girl just walking around finding you when she just needed meals. I agree with you. I thought it was super convincing. I thought my reading of it was really good and I deserve an A. But who would do such a thing? That's so mean versus somebody else. Who finds you? Maybe she hears that. You're really hungry. And she does something positive and good as opposed to this liar who pretends to have a restaurant. That's just mean well. It's decision time. Time to decide. Who's story is one hundred percent grass fed organic truth and who's been cooking up
"yuba" Discussed on Happy Hour Gets Weird
"Attack that sucks. Yeah so he recovered. He's fine eventually his car Atta gas so he slept the night in the car survived. Got Out the next morning and went to walk back eight miles down the hill to the lodge you staying at and a hundred and fifty feet away. He found their car in the middle of the road. Empty gone creepy so he was a hundred and fifty feet away from these mass so he was actually close so he could have seen that. It's not out of the question but we just don't know we just don't know okay so nothing came from this guy's tip that couldn't they. They investigated him but didn't find any foul play. It just heartbreaking. That he was a hundred and fifty feet away. Could he have been any help? He was in the middle of a heart attack. Maybe not but if they would have all stayed together till the next morning yes so more than three months went by and no sign of the men. It's as if they walked into a snowy night and vanished into thin air on June fourth of the same year after the snow melted a group of bikers. Were taken a ride in the plumas national forest when they came upon an abandoned for a service outpost as they pulled up. They noticed that a window had been broken out and they were suddenly overtaken by the strong smell of death and the call. The police tree crews spent half a day clearing trees from the road just to get to the abandoned trailer. Once they entered they found empty cans of food. Wood furniture extra clothing. Books and Ted Weirs Body. Candles had been recently lit and thirty one cans of food were found open and Eaton. They actually were opened with an army. P thirty eight can opener which needs a certain expertise to use expertise only Gary Matthias and Jack macdougall. Who were both in the army would have had? Ted's leather shoes were missing and Gerry's tennis shoes were found inside the trailer Mrs heartbreaking. It is because Jerry's tennis shoes were found inside the trailer that led investigators to believe that Gary was inside the trailer long enough to switch shoes. So Ted was the only one found at this point. He was the only one in the trailer and he was found laying on a bed covered under eight sheets with his arms on his chest. Eight sheets he had. He was covered with eight sheets covered up with eight sheets. He had his pants pulled up to his knees. His ring inscribed with Ted was on the nightstand also along with his wallet and also a gold. Watch that none of the parents recognized now. They did a analysis of Ted's beard hair and they found that the growth he had been there for at least six weeks in that trailer like his. He had been alive at least for six weeks after they went missing. Because that's how long has beard had grown? They also noticed that he had lost a considerable amount of weight. He was at least two hundred pounds when he went missing he had lost eighty two hundred pounds. Oh my God And he had. They found that he had died. From basically exposure he had blood poisoning from Frostbite which led to gangrene which lead to lead poisoning and he lost five toes at that point when God yeah terrible. Terrible terrible way to die. So let's talk about this trailer and this forced outpost for a little bit okay because I do think it's important now at this outpost. They found that Ted had died from exposure and he had covered up with eight sheets but there was plenty of material to burn in that trailer to start a fire and they. They found no evidence at any point. Had He tried to start a fire for warmth. Also there was never a fire set at all in in the trailer. For there was books there was paper. There was clothing there was would there was stuff was there. Fire starter material. Was there a lighter or matches? I believe so. It didn't say specifically but it was a fully stocked trailer. Also there was a propane tank that could have been hooked up to a heater to the trailer. That was never hooked up. Now you have to consider who these men were. Who had was it. It said that Ted didn't have common sense and also setting up a propane tank and doing all of that was probably just out of his scope. Yeah Frantic he was clarified. He was sick. He probably wouldn't even considered setting up a propane tank. I can't really blame them for that. I would. I consider setting up a private. We wouldn't either. I'm not sure I probably wouldn't either. I'd probably just try to start a fire. Yeah so now also. There was two containers at this outpost. One of the containers had been broken into which contain the canned food that they found in the trailer He had gone through the canned food. The sadly the container next to it wasn't opened it wasn't broken into it contained enough food to sustain all five men for at least a year. That's awful so there's a lot of speculation about you know whether they had the common sense or awareness to hook up the propane tank About the food. They're family sad that they were the type of men who wouldn't willingly touch something that didn't belong to them so there is a kind of a speculation saying that. Okay maybe they just felt that they were breaking and entering and it was you know it was really black and white like those were against the rules. Breaking into someone's belong as against the rules. We're not GONNA do that. Maybe they were delirious and just missed it maybe. They thought that they checked everywhere and MR SPA and didn't see the food. Maybe they didn't realize what the food was because by then they were so exhausted and hungry and cold and sick that they didn't realize what they were looking at. Yeah I tend to think that maybe they just you know tough. Conditions it snowy. You're starving you hire scared you're you have frostbite. Yeah you know it's would. I have the awareness to break into everything. I'm not sure I don't know I don't know either. It's easy to say like white and they do this or I would have done that. But until you're in that situation and you're suffering in these ways and you're going through these extreme circumstances you really don't know absolutely. I think you know even being on the I'm not in the position to diagnose anyone by any means I just have a hunch because I have a brother WHO's autistic. He's on the spectrum. He's very high functioning and his just seeming like a lot of these men might have been on the spectrum and just had not been diagnosed yet. Or you know maybe thirty years later. They would bank diagnosed or today say they would've been diagnosed on the spectrum. But you know I'm thinking at some point I think with survival kick in like the will to live with it kick in. I don't know I quit for me. I don't even know so. I think putting their diagnosis or their mental disabilities aside. I don't think anybody would know what to do in that situation until they're in that situation exactly and maybe you hire a great point. Maybe there was no access to a fire starter. Yeah they didn't. Hook up the propane so they didn't have. I don't even know if I would honestly trust myself to hook up or painting to a trailer. I can barely trust myself to hook up a propane tank to a fucking Barbara. Yeah I know and half the time like I gonNA blow up right now. I mean blow knew about. I know it sounds ridiculous but in if you're already terrified you don't WanNa add any sort of unknown element to your situation. Exactly like people will always choose the double that they know exactly exactly and I'm thinking might have literally half of my toes or frozen off. Am I going to outside again? Yeah fuck no no so jack. Muga and Bill Stirling were found two days later eight miles closer to the car my God. Oh so and by the way this trailer camp. This Forest Service camp was nearly twenty miles from their car. It was nineteen point six miles from their car so they had walked. At least Ted had walked nineteen point six miles from their car to this outpost which had to take days. Yeah there's no there's no way that was a straight line either no Jack Maduga and bill stirling found two days later eight miles closer to the car. On opposite sides of the road nothing but scattered bones were left of bill and Jack Madrid goes body was dragged to a nearby stream by animals. His car keys were still in his pants. Pocket it was determined hypothermia slash exposure was caused was the cause of death for Jack. Maju got bill sterling's death couldn't be determined because of the state up his remains. So what I WANNA know is did they all make it to the trailer and then Jack and bill decided to walk back to the car because Jack was the only one who could drive out of well one of the only ones who could drive out of the groups. Oh did they all make it to the trailer in Ted said? I'm good here. You go back to the car and then they just never made it back to the car or did they stop on the way to the trailer and we'll never know there was no other evidence in except for the one shoes. Yeah so Jack Hewitt. Other boy that they The other man. Excuse me that they hadn't found yet. They were still. The search party was still on because at this point. They're looking for Jack Hewitt and Gary Mathias Jack. Hewitt's father was warned not to help investigators on the rescue mission but on June eighth. He saw what he thought. Appear to be Jack's jacket near the trailer. When he went to pick up the jacket Jack Spine fell out. Oh my God Jack was awful. It terrible terrible Jack Hewitt was later identified by his skull and teeth found about fifty feet near his jacket in spine so by June eighth. Four of the five men had been found. I just can't imagine what these families and these parents were going through. This is the worst case scenario. It is a worst case as a parent. I just I empathize with them so deeply. This is just tragic. It is horrible it is horrible. Gary Matthias is still missing to this day. They never found his body. They never found him alive. They never found his remains nothing. It isn't known why they drove there where they were going or what they were doing to this day. So obviously we have one man. S not found. And that is Gary. And we'RE GONNA look into Gary a little bit because some of the theories of why this happened have to deal with Gerry. Matthias and these are just theories are just theories. These are just theories now the Article a lot about Gary was in the article which I'm assuming got from the evidence and it suggests my assumption only because the article was I. I'd say the prevailing theory was that Gary Matthias had something to do with this because he was a little bit different than the other men. So the four men. Bill Jack Hewitt Jack.
Apple is gearing up to fight the EU over the lightning connector
"Apple is fighting against the EU voted. Five hundred eighty two to forty in favor of a common charging standard type C So the reason is hey. We're all buying way too. Many chargers be nice if we could reuse them and they would end up in the landfill. Apple says you'RE GONNA kill innovation because the lightning port is of course so much better than type Z. Is it no no? No No. Does the same thing right. It was better than micro. Our grant much anything's better than micro. Usb But types now they don't have that argument anymore so I think the tricky thing with that too is like you know ten years ago. The you tried to do this. But the micro chargers and you know it didn't really catch on a kind of They didn't make it a law. They did it kind of an agreement right this time. The question law right but there's also a moving target right because type C will last for ten years. And they're gonNA have to mandate another connector so like you know putting that in the hands of government regulation rather than the individual filmmakers i. I applaud the the idea behind it. I just wonder how how much it's going to be workable. I is apple going to create a second phone for the market. Are they really going to abandon the lightning port? After all the time and money they spent at it are they just going to figure out another loophole for skirting this like. I'm a little skeptical. It's actually gonNA. That's what Tim. Hardwick contention is in macrumors. He says this is just going to make apple. Make this connection lists iphone. That there's been rumors about that. Just does wireless doesn't have you poured it all. That seems just horrible. Things happen and they. They've already gotten rid of their own lightening cable. When I buy my Mac pro picking up touch it has to USB breath on it no other porn and everything else should just be that to get rid of it on their own. They know better to squeeze not because they can charge. You forty five thousand dollars for the lightning game. There is a good point to be made there. Yuba key sells The songs I use a you key to you know to log into last pass another us. High g mail highly secure things and this one has a Taipei connector on it. But there's a you you becky with a Type. C and one end in a lightning on the other. The one with lightning on it is forty dollars more than the one with just type C. You now and then away. That's how you can tell. That's the apple. Tax is forty dollars. Fun is an NFC one too though so that in theory that should work. Yeah that's actually going wireless one. Yeah right I think they'll move eventually because the lightning port will eventually just pass. It's useful in the same way. I think the issue is like they're also worried like when they abandoned the thirty pin connector. It was the right move at the time but people were not happy about that but having to replace all their stuff. I mean it softened a little bit by the fact that the USCCA is at least standard. But Yeah I I. I'm kind of picturing there being a lot of revolt when they decide to eventually abandoned lightning stuff because so many people have not only cables but accessories and peripherals. I think in the next year or two. I think they're going to have more. People are GONNA see. Yeah blame the blame. The chargers all over the place. I'd love it if there
Paraglider rescued from California power lines
"A paraglider spent three hours tangled up in power lines before being rescued in northern California unidentified man was trying to land at the Yuba county airport during a training exercise when he made contact with the lines and was left facing the ground with the wires is only support power was cut to the surrounding area for several hours while fire crews were able to free him Jim Chevy
Paraglider caught in power lines rescued in California
"First responders in California meantime rescued a paraglider who got struck in stock in power lines here's CBS news correspondent Laura to destin first responders in the paraglider got tangled while trying to land at nearby Yuba county airport the rescue took three hours most of that time was waiting to make sure the power lines had been de energized so both the paraglider and the people working to get him down wouldn't be electrocuted in the end crews were finally able to cut him free he's exhausted but seems to be all these vital soon to be stable thousands of people in the area temporarily lost power during the rescue
"yuba" Discussed on Hysteria 51
"It a blizzard. We get nine inches on Tuesday in. Chicago is in the works by eight. Am they knew it was nine inches because they all whipped out there mayor on Bar said they above that? They're todd. Thanks so the guys. They seem to have vanished and so the question becomes. Has Anyone seen them? Did anyone see them? Leave the car did he. Well see what happened with win. They left the car. Well Maybe John. Tell us about that. Inter Joseph shown might be Shawn's. I'M NOT SURE THE PRONUNCIATION. He called the police after hearing about the boy's disappearance to say he had seen them or what he thought to be them Between Eleven twelve ready evening of the group disappeared. Fuckers got a horrible story. He wasn't like flipflopping. My way through the area. I mean out of joint. Enjoy a pack. No no he'd been driving up the road to his cabin when he was. He was actually Scouting out the area to see if he could bring his family the next day driving up the road to his cabin his car become stuck in the road. He was actually stock. He tries to push his car out and boom he has a grabber has a heart attack. There makes a Baker's dozen there Bob and and now from from here the details get a little hazy. There's a couple of Jakob Bullshit because everytime I've had a heart attack. I've been in complete central. There's a couple of what he said in one version and let's call this the normal version he. He's lying in his car as you do after you have a heart attack in the middle of nowhere and it at about eleven thirty he sees. This is protocol. Yes yes there's there's a book He sees two sets of headlights coming up behind him. One was a car and the other was a truck. He got out of his car to flag them down. I'm pay attention to that. The fact that there was a truck there. We'll get back later Both vehicle stopped about twenty feet from him. They ignore him. Get Out of the car and just walk past. Yeah Joseph Said. He spent the rest of the night in his car. Screaming you motherfucker. But you're just inferring that but I think it's right before walking back down the morten down the mountain in the morning he In his car had run out of gas he ran out of gas got cold and it was about eight miles to safety. One of the most interesting thing about the story is the guy has a grabber in the middle of nowhere just sits it out. Yeah Yeah just like Oh man. I'm GONNA fucking probably like the cold and everything might have like lowered his blood pressure and made it better. I don't know I mean plenty of times people have heart attacks they don't even re- there's like there's some sort of identifier in your blood when you've had a heart attack and comes up positive booze and others have said. I don't know sweating a whole lot and things went weird like you had a heart attack. I'm sure it was one of those more mind right still interesting. That's option one. He's got a couple things that he remembered of this story. The more mysterious version. It's a little more. Yeah why's inside the car? Here's whistling noise from outside. So you do what you do and you pop your head up. And he said he saw what looked like a group of men and a woman with a baby five men and women and a baby while Celicas one of them. Walking in the light of another vehicles headlight. So then Steve Gutenberg right like this is another vehicle right right. They can see them. They've got now. They're all walking any normal. Illinois nowhere Middle Winner Shit babies love the would say love just going out in the woods in the night you can leave them especially when it's cold. They say it really builds character and their surroundings guys. Two and a half now is too late. It's never too late to try the old college try. And he said he called for help and do the lights turned off and the whistling sound stopped by someone in the car. I reading that every time I read the story I can only imagine the Did you ever watch the show on? Hbo The leftovers watched part of the first season. And there's this whole group of people that I won't get into it but they don't speak and they were white and I'm imagining the main dudes wife's in there. Yeah and they're just walking past. You're trying to yell at him not paying attention Martin. I don't know if you had a heart attack. No no okay. No help at all right. We'll go fuck yourself thanks again. Marathon bark ends up like you said staying until he ran against walks eight miles and he didn't think much of it. Which is kind of saying something telling you heard about the disappearances and he's like I think I might have saw them. Is that normal shit or was his mind. Just more preoccupied with I had a heart attack and then he he puts together. I to listen. It's important to note. He admitted to authorities that he thought he experienced hallucinations. Right and so. That's interesting but it's also interesting that it could maybe explain. Some of what happened is right. The question becomes of if the if the story is a pie chart. What percentage of that pie chart was hallucinations versus really happened? I got very sick when I was younger. And I had hallucinations sucks. You didn't die and I don't remember I kinda remember little bits and pieces of it myself but my parents they told me all and the shit. I didn't make any sense like the dog's ears came off. And we're chasing me you like you're talking like like like like an outtake from evil dead right and it was because I had a high temperature and they're trying to fight it and I was in the hospital and all this stuff gets just weird. I wasn't like and then I saw one with the baby. Walked by ignore me One little thing that might be important about that is remember. He said that those two vehicles came up a car to try truck. You kinda ticked off on that. A woman reported seeing the five men in a red pickup truck on Saturday and Sunday about an hour from where that abandoned car was and she owned a store there and said two of them came into by food. One of them made a phone call from a phone booth right outside of their in the other to stay in the truck and she identified them as the boys and said all five of them were in this truck. Abbas Tom Selleck Steve Gutenberg. But what really happened to the Boys Brent? Ken Can't be explained. It was something nefarious a foot after the break a break in the case. Well they'll sort of that's next on hysteria fifty one the break up there. Hello this is Michael..
"yuba" Discussed on Hysteria 51
"The call was perfect. I really need to get better. My impressions as we mentioned all five of them played on a basketball team together and there was a tournament coming The the following Saturday. Yeah the family said they were all really pumped about it because the winner of the attorney would win a week in La and a trip to Disneyland. It is overrated. Probably but you know I also read somewhere else that at the tournament I think it was at the terror might have been the the game. They're going to the night before which we'll get into. They were going to have the opportunity to meet Sally struthers. Oh Shit correspondence schools for everyone. So before the tournament they made plans to go to a basketball game that Friday night. What's GonNa make sense? You GotTa be tournament. The next day goes go. Watch a game kind of pumped up and get ready for it. So that's back on Friday February twenty fourth. They all got into the car. Now Jack Modrica. He owned the car and it was a nineteen sixty nine Mercury Montego. Any drove about fifty miles with him to watch the game at California State University Chico and their favorite team which was another California team. I'm forgetting Was Actually on the road plane at Chico. That's why they went so far in In other in another source I was reading. Most of their parents actually asked them not to go because that was a really long way they got a big day. Tomorrow you're not going to get home until late. Like why? Why are you right now? And they were super excited about the big day. It just didn't make sense but they they had made their minds up so they win. Yes they get back in the car at about ten o'clock ish to head home after the game right. Yeah and they stopped three blocks away from the university where they played at where the game was played at at a place called bears market and they bought some snacks and this is remember the clerk. I always find this interesting most things you don't remember but when something what'd you do last. Tuesday says the after. I don't know but if that day something happened stepped attack right. You would like well. He was on my way to the bathroom so the guy was trying to close up and they came in and he said annoyed the piss out of him because he's trying to get out of there and they're like come in like just hadn't had a they'd had a lot of fun at the game so probably fired up gentleman's flowing exactly. Yeah so they bought and they they have exactly what about down one hostess. Cherry Pie one Lincoln dorf lemon Pie one snickers bar one marathon bar to Pepsi's and a court and a half of milk not so cold milk was a bad choice. I had to say gold glass still doing your own podcast there. What the Hell is a marathon bar? I'm glad you asked to see I have a treat for you. This is going to be a little aside from the show. Today I'm going to be my back radyr battlements. Yeah no kidding. We are going to try marathon wealth not exactly. I'm explain. Bela happier. Max I know you would The Mars Candy Company introduced the Marathon Bar in nineteen seventy three and was a full full eight inches of braided caramel covered in milk chocolate. Maybe that's only that's that's way longer than eight inches it was it was marketed as quote the candy bar. You can't eat quickly in commercials and Oh God oh man. It's going to be like milk or sugar. Babies or something it and their mascot was like some sort of cowboy dude anyway. Quick a came in a is that what happened. It came in a bright red rapper. That made it stand out from other candy bars. There's actually a ruler on the rapper. Showing that it was the full eight inches. So many jokes they discontinued the marathon bar in nineteen eighty one's. GonNa say this isn't a marathon barth of bustling in front of me. A version of it lives on Indie. Cadbury can I? Can I say the name? Yeah go ahead. It's curly curly. Curly Wurley so this was this was actually a competitive bar that had been out before the marathon. But it's it's like this you know there's bars out there that they are literally have a twin across the aisle. The the the the opponent makes Mars makes one cadbury makes the other kind of like. Yeah he's score exactly So Brent I win procured are not the shot not the good it turned down so interestingly enough talking about clearly it looks like rope. Like braided rope. It does it. Does it kind of falls apart? All right here we go. Oh it tastes like a ironed down the the chewy covered in chocolate there long strong down to get the friction on we shall. I mean look recharged me. It is like a really thin milk. Dud what they come in there either yellow or their Charleston. But that's that's Nougat as not good is what the consistency of flattening as you're not on.
"yuba" Discussed on Hysteria 51
"Coming for you. Look one of them now. Welcoming hysteria nation to the podcast now playing spot Alexa Stop Stop collaborate and listen to the first lyric Alexa. I said Pause Isaac Asimov was a famous science fiction writer in Alexa Stop. You don't have to yell finally wait what what. I'm going to leave that alone. Welcome in hysteria nation to the PODCAST. That never leaves a candy bar half eaten. This is hysteria fifty-one. No one knows what that means it. Sit teaser they'll get it soon enough. I really need some new meet sex broadcasting from the lower fourth dimension otherwise known as Chicago. I'm your host. John go forth and sitting across from me is my co host and the Well never mind. Couldn't even come up with something good here. His name's Brent hand off today John Everything everything. Kosher everything okay I guess I'm just a little thrown off my chat with Alexa. She seems a little too. I Dunno responsive. But it's fine. It's fine maybe she wants to kill you. Hey get in line that other voice. You're here he is he third host of the show and the only one to routinely threaten homicide yet not get arrested. So that's a plus for him. I guess the One and only conspiracy about snitching get stitches. That doesn't even make sense in the context of this conversation whatsoever. You don't make sense in the context of this conversation. By the way. Did you work out the kinks on? Kyle I'm tired of picking up my own dry-cleaning you you don't wear clothes which makes it even more annoying. Actually I did. It turned out to be a little bad code. But he's back in our normal. Kyle gets anyone got a wrench. Why do you need a wrench? Nothing's see back to normal. It is it is nice work. Nice work you make you. You might want to turn that coating expertise to your Alexa. She's giving me the creeps. But for now let us Terry no further Brent. Talk like that but yes yes like. My favorite cloth will Terry. No further actually actually cheese. Because I love cheese and cheese cloths but hey it's the Yuba county five. Oh I thought you meant. There is a cheese called Terry Cheese. There might be. I'd probably eat it all. I know he does lactate a lot. Okay John Disclaimer. I think before we start. Yeah Yeah quick disclaimer. So the story involves. If you're not familiar with it involves five men that were all described in one way shape or form as being intellectually disabled or or with a mental health disability. And we researched all over the place for this story. And and you'll see that if you look in the In the show notes and frankly everywhere you turned. There was a different reference to their varied conditions. Some of them even using archaic terms like slow or even worse Our point is a lot of progress has been made in the last forty years and understanding both mental illness and intellectual disablement. We've done our best to use the correct terminology and call out the wrong terminology. If it's in a quote I mean obviously we're not gonNA change a quote but the point is we're not perfect We made our best effort. And hopefully hopefully we don't offend anyone because that's not our We're just trying bring this story to you because it's a really fascinating story. It's also worth noting this quote from the Sacramento Bee in an article last year frequently referred to in news articles as quote mentally slow unquote or simply quote retarded unquote. It's unclear whether any of the young men ever had their disabilities formerly diagnosed. Not that it mattered much to one another so as we get into the story. The point is you'll hear a lot of these words and many of them weren't even formally diagnosed right right exactly and like you said there's quotes and things like that so we are if we are using improper terminology. We didn't say it. Are we apologize so the funny thing is about this? I don't know if it is actually funny but I find humorous that everyone calls this even when you look it up online. The American Dot Loft Pass. And Yeah you and I were talking about that people went disappeared. Bodies were found so any toll under SM WEIRD CIRCUMSTANCES. But that's kind of where it stops they're very and vastly different situations. There is a very big mystery here that we'll get into but there's no woo behind it. They th the with the with the Lou. Moore is the evil of men than correct I as their in irradiated monster eating you exactly the with the with the deal off our Diet Loft Harry say pass. There's the possibility of like some sort of crypt it or monster or alien doing some Weird Shit not here. How now now? Now fuck that noise because there's always a chance of a litter monster hell was ice thinking that mean that keeps going around. Your chance of getting killed by Cao is low but never zero calories. You'RE GONNA wind up. I haven't seen that sin that to me right now show. I'll just let's do it on air. So yeah this is another one. That was a huge outpouring of people asking us to do this. One and I knew the term but I didn't know a lot about the story and I'm actually very happy that they did because it is fascinating and I kind of fell down the rabbit hole on this one trying to find different takes on it. There's not a ton of SPECULA- There's speculation and it's all over the place but a lot of places kind of funnel back to the same research that so interesting. The Sacramento Bee article mentioned earlier from last year. Really was great in digging up new research and dries search. And if you read anything since then they just pointing to right the good news the way the Sacramento Bee was able to do. Their article was unlike so many of these stories. The evidence and the the big box of evidence buried in the the bottom of the police station didn't go missing. This tight in the seal wasn't you know. Cut off mysteriously pieces missing to get into this. We we've kind of talked about calling this this comparing to diaw paths. What happened John? What is this story? And why is it so fascinating okay? So there's five guys five friends They call them. You'll hear this reference a lot. The boys like in quotes the boys. They they were. Everyone referred to them as the boys. They were all adults. Yes twenties to any surveys. Yeah many of them considered each other best friends. They were the five best friends that anyone could have. We'll get into a later. One of them wasn't necessarily a best friend. That's true because you always need boogeyman and I think a lot of that might just be people. It could be speculate pointing blame. Yeah so but as we mentioned before they were all either intellectually disabled or with a mental health disability and this is of course according to their families and reports at the time. That's not disputed they were very forthcoming with that information. Yeah this is mostly from the families and they all attended vocational Rehab in fact. That's actually where they all met as a group It was called the gateway projects which was it's a now defunct. Yuba City Organization for adults with special needs. I actually run my own gateway project if anyone is interested in Free Gateway Drugs Online. Let's let's let's pause there. Let's keep diving deeper. That's about what do you mean by drugs? I mean I will kill them. That's what I thought. Yeah or free. It's like it's like Babu's when you come to the new studio you don't have to bring you don't have to but he insists I brought. This is the first time producer. Lisa's been in the news studio. So Lisa That new booth treating you well. I didn't Hook up the Audio. So we talked about these guys go to this gateway. They were all part of actually a basketball team. All played on these Special Olympics team called the gateway gators. They were chomping to the top. Now I see I don't know if that's offensive or just stupid gators man. No no no. It doesn't matter if you seriously it I think's more stupid. I think I think his comment. There's just more I'm not offended by it but it's just stupid so before we get further though you were talking about a little bit the back story. Let's talk about these men individually because five people four are definitely dead so let's give them a little bit of information of course spent some time on them and then also the context of who they were and also plays into how they fit into the straight. So it's worth taking the time. Yeah so first off. We have theodore. We're he was thirty two years old. And he was from Oliver's California and he was actually diagnosed with a learning disability. It was a janitor previously. But he'd quit at the urging of his family and the other guy that is part of the story Hewitt he was kind of Hewitt's Hewitt we'll get him in a second. Yeah he took care of them and that said he wasn't known for his common sense and that's a hard thing to say. But here's a quote from that article you're talking about. We're going to quote that a few times in this episode it was one of the more one of the more factually relevant pieces of research. We could find so this is one of the Sacramento Bee. We're loved making new friends but lacked basic common sense. His brother Dallas at interview with the B. He wants spent one hundred dollars on pencils for no particular reason in his parents told investigators all these stories and how he would question instructions as simple as stopping and a stop sign when his parents house in town of Linda caught fire. He stayed in bed watching the ceiling over him burn and told his brother to leave him alone because he needed a rest for work. The next day they told investigators all of this one of his brothers literally had to drag him from the Burning House. And this we mentioned earlier this is the guy who was the protector of the next guy. We're going to talk about Jack Hewitt. Yeah so I mean that's doesn't sound like a picture of of yeah kind of the mentality or and you know. Some people are very fragile but sometimes people work together. What you're lacking someone else Rasma. You have we'll figure it out but you know and so you bring different things to the table. I have looks you've got the he's got to look. You have sunglass do multiple pair. No one has more than one pair of.
A Sneak Peek of the Wild & Scenic Film Festival
"What is the wild and scenic film festival? It's it sounds like a bunch of hippies drinking up in Nevada Vada city. You're not wrong The Wild and scenic film festival is a opportunity for filmmakers and activists from around the world to come together to tell the stories that they care most about About protecting the environment. And this is your first podcast so low right you. You had all the equipment you went up you. You didn't know who you can exactly interview. What was it like Well it was exciting I did lose my phone with all the recordings on it for a period of about twelve of hours but luckily thanks to the The kind hearted people in Nevada city. I was able to get my my phone back with all these interviews. So crisis averted so Nevada city is like the heart of the like eighteen fifties goldrush right the forty niners that that's where everything happened is amazing when you go there because it looks looks like this old gold town. That's right it's it's right in the Sierra foothills in it it does look like and feel like in some ways that you're going back in time and and Melinda The Executive Director of the South you've ever citizens league tells us a little bit about Nevada city and history in the ways in which the Yuba river in particular has really shape the town cool so his Sarah talking with Melinda booth. Who's responsible for bringing this huge festival together every year? Uh So this film festival is now in its eighteenth year and it's an environmental an adventure film based festival here in Nevada city and Grass Valley California. So we're we're in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada mountains about halfway between Sacramento and Lake Tahoe and we had some beautiful snow last night. Blanketing our town. But it's sunny and melting and we're ready for the eight thousand people that are going to come to our small foothills town for this. Annual event. So South River Citizens League we affectionately refer to ourselves by our acronym circle was founded back in nineteen ninety-three and a bunch of concerned citizens came together when dams were proposed on the South Yuba River and they decided that's not what they wanted for the river in their community and they banded together and fought those dams over sixteen years. It was a sixteen year long fight but they were ultimately successful in protecting the river by by achieving California State designation for wild and scenic status for thirty nine miles to the south you bought which permanently protects it this community really is all about the Yuba River. It's an economic driver for us. It's a place of renewal. It's a place of recreation. It's habitat refuge. It's definitely one of the most scenic rivers in California cornea and you have these beautiful smooth granite boulders. You have these emerald waters you have deep pools. It's relatively warm in the summer and it's a magical place. There's more folks who enjoy the river naked than clothed but. Tell us a little bit about the film festival. I see that the Tagline is where activism gets inspired tired so back in nineteen ninety nine. One circled did achieve that wild and scenic status for the river they were to crossroads and decided You know they achieved what they set out to to do. And so then the question was okay well organization done. Did we reach our goal or is there more to do and they quickly realized that. Gosh there's so much more to do. Circles mission is to unite the community to protect and restore the river. And there's lots of work to be done year round so we're focusing on that mission throughout the entire watershed so from the headwaters waters up at sugarbush ski resort if people know the area that's near the headwaters all the way down to the confluence with the feather river in Marysville the founders of the film festival were very very forward thinking and realized if they could create something that could create a sustainable funding source to help the organization that would be a real help to achieving in our mission and so wild and scenic film festival was created. It was of course named after the win of wild and scenic status and it started as two nights heights and one venue back in two thousand and three and it's grown here in twenty twenty to take place in two towns. We have venues and grass valley and Nevada city. It's five days as we have ten film venues. We have activists workshops we have celebrations. We have virtual reality lounge. We have an environmental art exhibition. There's really a whole lot. Outgoing on does the film festival travel and are there ways for people that live elsewhere to enjoy the festival and enjoy these films. Yes so we kick it off every year in January January here in the foothills in Nevada city grass valley in January but then we hit the road and we take these films on tour so you might see a wild and scenic event near you we have about two hundred and fifty events annually reaching more than sixty five thousand people with these inspiring stories and you can search for an event in your area and if there's not one you can be a host so what we do which I think is really incredible. Is We're actually partnering with Environmental Organizations. Really any kind of organization who want it to host a festival in their area so that they can raise awareness for issues in their community and raise funds for the work that they're doing so it's a really cool partnership a way to get these films seen inspire more people and really Increase the groundswell for the environmental movement. As a whole I love that Can you give us an example or tells Tulsa story about maybe the most inventive or unusual way that people have brought the wild and scenic film festival to their community. I love it when people do outdoor screenings screenings. It's really great so we have some folks in Florida with their shoes off toes in the sand. Watch these films at night outside so one of the cool things about living in Sacramento obviously is the Sacramento River. And I've always had this dream of going being from reading down to the sea. One of the cool movies that you've got to see them super jealous about is cold the Sacramento at current speed and these guys go in that story story which is a teeny little boat and floated down and you go to catch up with them. Tell us about Tom and Mitch. Thomason mentor great to me. They really exemplify the film festival which his in many cases transforming what we might consider to be ordinary people. That didn't you know. Set their careers to be filmmakers or even necessarily activists who fell in love with place and wanted to tell that story to others. And that's exactly what happened with Mitch and Tom. They would go out occasionally with each other with their wives on the river and in came to be Really compelled by the river and wanting to protect it and so they made this film Which ended up winning the twenty twenty people's Choice Award a really beautiful film and Really Beautiful Film and story and I thought it was special to that. Of course the Sacramento River flows through Sacramento so we've paddled on it and Goes through the very place where a lot of decisions about water in the entire state are made so just a lot of Nice different connections with this one. Sara Fest Out Utah With Mitch Dion and then with Tom Bottles who made the Sacramento at current speed. Which won the People's Choice Award The wild and scenic Film Festival Mitch starts by explaining how the idea for the film was launched? A was just looking for a place to row my boat down a river. I Love Rivers. I really like my little dory boat and I live in truckee aunt kind of stumbled on the Sacramento as a place to do some overnight trips without having to drive halfway across the country to Utah. Colorado or Idaho so Several years ago my wife and I didn't overnight trip on a section of the upper for Sacramento where we through our bikes into the boats camped overnight and they invite the shuttle back up to the car and we had so much fun. And we were so enamored with with what we found down there that I started doing longer trips. and Um Tom and I done lots of adventures together. But we've never took advantage Jeff. Our professional lives. He's a videographer and has made lots of films so I started telling her friends. It's about the project down here on the Sacramento and Tom's ears perked up and he said found sounds very well. Maybe you should make a movie of IT and So just hopped in my boat and Loaded up with camera gear and some food and crackers and smoke cheese and took off below reading and Started in a two week journey down the SACRAMENTO Some of which I done before and below Qaluza all the way down into the Delta was was unknown unknown you. I know that people navigate this piece of river all the time but whether we could actually row it and make it out there we really have. I've no idea all heard that the winds were extreme down there that Might be a really difficult journey. And Good Luck. What is it that you wanted to share with people the Sacramento River? The big thing is this water belongs to all of us and people may not realize that it's public domain. It's the water is supposed has to be managed to use for the use that's most beneficial to the most number Californians and you know we know that's a simple concept and after after that everything gets really complicated because a lot of give and take in tug of war but we need to be wake watch. What's happening attention to what's going on Out there because it belongs to all of
"yuba" Discussed on KZSC 88.1 FM Santa Cruz
"At the Yuba county detention center approached Lexus in her cell and miss led her to believe that she was being fully released and going home instead you but deputies released Alexis directly to ice which took her to an airport and forcibly transferred her to a remote detention facility in Texas where she is now detained nearly two thousand miles away from her lawyer and community Lexus was denied the ability to call her attorney prior to arriving in Texas she's remained in segregated confinement at the prairie land detention center in over it Texas ever since where she has no connections no support and no lawyer ice continues to punish Lexus forcing her to wear male clothes the thing identifying her by her previous name and gender and refusing to provide her gender reassignment treatment the French San Francisco public defender's challenging ISIS transferring the tension of Lexus as cruel and inhumane and demand to release and the temporary restraining order filed today with the Northern District of California this is the Pacific evening news on KPFA Berkeley KPFK Los Angeles K. 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Fresno this newscast airs each night at six half hour additions on the weekend with Glyn reader I Miley Nelson Derry hi everyone this is Brian Edwards ticker and I'm kat Brooks weekday mornings we host up front two hours of conversation about what's in the news and what should be politics technology prisons police what's happening in city hall and at the state house in Washington and in the streets that starting at seven AM right after democracy now on up front within only to impeachment federal appellate judges struggle today with whether to grant house Democrats demands for testimony from former White House counsel don McGann and access to secret grand jury materials from special counsel Robert Muller its investigation the Democrats say both could be relevant to president trump's impeachment and could even lead to additional charges against him the administration argues the testimony and the documents have nothing to do with the impeachment inquiry it wasn't clear how to separate panels of the U. S. court of appeals for the district of Columbia circuit would rule after arguments that stretched over several hours judge Thomas Griffith described trumps ordered to not to cooperate with congressional investigations as broad scale defiance that might be unprecedented in US history Griffith is an appointee of president George W. bush he said on both three judge panels one on the began testimony and went on the grand jury material and could be the decisive vote in each separation of powers struggle the United Nations world food program as identified fifteen countries at risk of a food emergency listing the sub Saharan African nations such as Zimbabwe south Sudan and the Democratic Republic of Congo as facing food and security chief causes our war and the climate crisis is a bill not not Kyrie reports the WFP reports millions of people are uncertain of where their next meal will come from sub Saharan Africa dominates the region with I just need of attention with children on women facing crisis the U. N. food agency says the region is experiencing the worst drought living people food in secure these emergencies of crippled economies with half the populations in Bob we short of food is also down local conflicts has displaced three point eight million people on floods destroyed tons of cereals Debbie of P. ones levels of hunger I expected to worsen in the coming months and less assistance is increased to seven change lives the agency estimates it will require more than ten billion dollars to fully fund its operations in more than eighty countries around the wall this here is about the curia compiler California Attorney General have your basura has joined with a dozen other states to file a legal brief supporting the state of Rhode Island in its lawsuit seeking to hold oil companies responsible for the damage caused by carbon emissions the Rhode Island lawsuit cites harms from sea level rise changes to the hydrologic cycle and increased Aaron ocean temperatures in its suit Rhode Island alleges that the major fossil fuel companies knowingly contributed to climate change and failed to warn regulators and the public about the harms of using fossil fuels instead the lawsuit says the company's promoted pseudo scientific theories and questioned legitimate climate science in order to confuse the public and maintain their profits that complain argues that big oil should be liable for infrastructure related damage resulting from their actions attorney job general but Serra says in a statement supporting the Rhode Island lawsuit that corporations promoted the use of fossil fuels that accelerate climate change and hurt our coastal states he added for the sake of our communities and our children's futures we cannot let polluters off the hook the case is currently pending in the first circuit after the oil companies appealed a federal court decision that the lawsuit belongs in Rhode Island state court a group of religious leaders is behind three potential November ballot measures that would require more gun control laws in Oregon the petitions currently pending review would add restrictions to the sale of semi automatic firearms and high capacity magazines gun control advocates have increasingly turned to the states for safety legislation as congressional Republicans have bottled up such measures as the at the federal level Eric took a tough reports some of faith leaders want twenty twenty to be the year Oregon passes what they.
Creatures That Emerged From Myth
"Today to creatures that defy logic and science. The Legend of the Chew Kabre Crosses All borders the Americas including Puerto Rico in the state of Maine. There are many creatures of legend that that have been debunked over the years but the Macabre has stood the test of time and of critics and of science a bloodsucking creature usually the size of a small bear. Sometimes the tail always covered. Scaly skin arose spines down. Its back the Tuba. Kabre has been a staple staple and quarter rico folklore for decades since the first goat was found drained of its blood the explanation for the goats death could have been anything but there were those who wondered if the Kabre had a glass crawled out of the pages of folklore as soon as word of the Puerto Rican farm animals brokers brokers having been drained of their blood farmers in other countries began complaining of their own attacks animals from Mexico. Argentina Chile Colombia and the United States. Where all die in the same gruesome death seemingly with no explanation. Medi critics of the existence of the tube. AKABA claimed that. It's nothing more than a hairless dog but the two hundred reported sightings just from Puerto Rico alone seemed to contradict this simple explanation originally owner so the victims victims thought. That Uber Kabre to be a half human half vampire east this because all the blood had been dragged from its victims victims most often goats chickens are reportedly trained every single drop of blood but otherwise left intact. There is usually no other evidence of a struggle struggle or attack sometimes two or three puncture marks almost large enough to accommodate a human finger in the animal's neck. And that's it a mix of vampire empire and Marauding Furry Lizard that you. Kara has become one of the most common be studied under the general heading of Crypto. Zoology study of animals. Awesome may or may not be real. No one is ever caught a Tuba. Kara will plenty of I.. Witnesses claimed to have seen one. Descriptions vary eyewitness accounts during a rash of alleged attacks. Nineteen ninety-five described the animal as having a Reptilian body overhead bulging. Red Eyes fanged teeth along guarding tongue. One cannot mention the elusive Tuba. Kara creature that stood the test of time in science without mentioning the Jersey the devil liked that Yuba cadre. The Jersey Devil has emerged from legend. Only be to become layered with miss and variations depending upon who you talk two for close to three hundred years now. Jerseyans have told tales of this mythical beast that stocks the Pine Barrens the most infamous of the census occurred during the week of January. Sixteen th through the twenty third nineteen o nine early in the week. Reports started emerging from all across the Delaware Valley. This strange tracks were being found in the snow. The mysterious footprints went over and under fences through fields and backyards. Across rooftops of houses they were even reported. The large cities of Camden Philadelphia panic immediately began to spread posses formed in more one town. Fear and intrigue grew even greater when it was reported that bloodhounds refused to follow the unidentified creatures trail in Hammonton schools schools closed or suffered low attendance throughout lower New Jersey and in Philadelphia bills in the Pine Barrens were forced to close when workers refused to to leave their homes and travel through the woods to get to their jobs. Eyewitnesses spotted the beast in Camden and Bristol. Pennsylvania and in both cities police. He's fired on it but did not manage to bring it down a few days later. It reappeared in Camden attacking a late night meeting of a social club and then flying away earlier that day and it appeared in Handan Heights terrorizing a trolley car full of passengers before flying away. Witnesses claimed that it looked like a large art flying kangaroo. Another trolley car full of people saw it and Burlington when it scurried across the tracks in front of the car. and Wes this columns would. It appeared on the roof of a house. It was described as an ostrich like creature firemen turned their hoses on it but at attack them and then flew away by the entire week. People reported that their livestock particularly the chickens were being slaughtered and there. You have it too strange creatures teachers that have defied critics and sceptics across the Americas in Maine and New Jersey myth or a hold out from the earliest evolutionary times. You you
"yuba" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK
"Woodland sixty in Yuba city and it is sixty two in Sacramento views ninety three point one K. became all right thank you and we goodness find our poll here real quick yeah no we were doing something remarkable we were talking about Dhaka that's right that was our question today how am I can go from memory but I really have her kids loosely you sure or maybe less it's it's despair let me call back up well in the meantime yes maybe we can yeah well what we should do the hand off to the Pat wall sure yeah and I how what we do I'm glad you're back we missed you thank you I miss you too couple of days off back to it so the always glad to disable vehicle gore point five guards on ramp sep Spader there so Bob's wing traffic for one of our fabulous FM stations with what's happening at the gore point I was I wonder what's up with the gore for a long time to figure out with the gore point is and I had asked Bob on the air so that were like there's that the joining yeah you know what I'm up the R. again on ran like the wind down of the yeah your point right there I thank you that was your gore point yeah so tonight will give away giveaway tickets tonight to the black Crowes and Eric church quite frankly just the fact that I'm saying we're getting way to get to the black Crowes is truly amazing considering two brothers it just seemed like they were never gonna get along that was never gonna happen so that's interesting but fake news no apologies days of our lives soap operas remiss of arms but drum circles what causes driver pulls in base models of drum circles drum circle yes so you mean yeah I know you may now sure sure exactly those those green circles made in fields by drums reading yes or some I'm just joking is well actually gone home when I was at five thirty when I was looking at the six o'clock run down and couldn't figure out where I was the traditional left right then well he is no big deal I'm ready to go we're gonna have a great show see three hours coming up how will show seven Jan and there is no question the you'll have a great show it is a pre ordained by the very one American radio okay so stick around all right here's your poll on should be ended eighty one percent of our respondents say yes fourteen percent no five percent think it doc I should just be law so that's a give you cannot come the afternoon news with Kitty o'neill all rights to ground for Pat we will be back tomorrow at four Intel is number one for breaking news traffic and weather news ninety three point one F. B. K. in honor of veterans day eleven eleven the national nonprofit.
California utility cuts power to 24,000 customers
"Pacific gas and electric is shutting off power to thousands of customers in northern California due to dangerous weather conditions utility spokesperson Deanna contrary says right now this will not impact communities in the bay area and we were seeing some hot windy weather conditions that include the potential fire risk and we have them on a watch and we noticed started notifying customers about fifty five thousand customers in those three north a county that we could potentially shut off the power for safety she does say that the situation will be re assess this morning for customers in the bay area they should also impact Butte Nevada and Yuba counties contrary says they've warned customers to be prepared for their power to be out for at least forty eight hours but it could take even longer to restore electricity for
"yuba" Discussed on Locations Unknown
"But it's north of Sacramento and directly west of the national forest. Thank you very much. No that's good information honestly because especially for people that aren't are in California for looking it up on a map you you can find a little bit easier so essentially because there are a lot of them live with their parents still their clothes have been laid out in the evening of the twenty fourth before they left for Chico so they're excited about getting back to this basketball game so right away. That's important formation no too because you always wonder. Is there an aspect of them purposefully not returning. They had a fun thing plan that they're gonNA do on the weekend. They went to basketball game before their own tournament weekend. They had their clothes laid out before they left. They played for it was is difficult. Vocational Rehabilitation Center is where they played basketball so that was their team gateway gators and the team Ted. We're had asked his mother to wash his new wight high top sneakers for the term insane. We got a big game Saturday. Don't you let me oversleep so they specifically. They're excited about this. You know it was a big basketball. We can for these guys. They're really early days. Before I phone alarms. I know right so when the Group failed to return Yuba city their families became concerned immediately and call the police lease so again. This is where if it's a bunch of adults that don't really have an issue there plywood raise too many alarms that they went to a college basketball game and didn't come back the next stay. I mean what are your thoughts immediately. If just a normal group of guys they probably went out drinking got a hotel and stayed the night but they were expected to be home home to start this this this tournament so immediately. The sheriff's department began searching for him so just a recap they went from Cuba to Chico for in college basketball game. They stopped at a convenience store on their way back. The game ended about ten so they would have got back probably around midnight you know if they're a little later twelve thirty one. AM and they had a very important basketball tournament. They're playing in over the weekend that they're supposed to be a part of Sheriff's department start searching so we're gonNA fast fast for the weren't anymore. UPDATES till Tuesday February twenty eighth. This is when a forest ranger found Jack Madrid's car abandoned so this is a forest stranger in the national forest. The vehicle was a turquoise and white nineteen sixty nine mercury MONTALTO. It was on an unpaved road near Oroville in the Rogers cow camp area past elk retreat at an elevation of four thousand five hundred feet so this is in the national forest I and it was located around a two and a half hour drive from Chico in the opposite direction of the route. They're supposed to drive home and way up in the mountains in the Plumas National Forest Mike. I know you looked at a map. I think Chico's north correct north of Yuba Yeah Chico's north a little a bit north. I'd say north and slightly West took so I mean they even city they had it's in the freeway. There is a straight south drive. Yeah that would went so they went even farther north twice the distance essentially in the wrong direction up in the mountains and then abandoned in their car was abandoned. It's pretty incredible like they drove twice a distance in the wrong direction so the Plumas National Force against one point five million Acre acre national forest we talked about that. It's unique the locations you because if you look at you on the map it is south of Chico both on the same highway anyway so again. It's extremely easy to get back and forth. It's basically you get on the highway and go all the way and you get off the city so getting back on the highway to head south it'd be it'd make more sense if they got lost somewhere on the way south because the highway doesn't continue the way they went during the investigation. The police did not find anything that would make someone think foul play occurred so the car was unlocked. One Window is down in the keys. Were missing the candy rappers from the things they bought the milk. Cartons and basketball programs were in the car and maps were left in the glove compartment. They did have maps and the directions to get to and from their destination and where they wanted to go home so there's no obvious damage to the car which was a big deal because they said the road they they were on was super bumpy in unmade so basically it was a road that you should be driving in a four wheel or four wheel drive vehicle on like taping type of thing so they must have been driving slow or something because they would have expected there to be damage on the car that was noted in the police report so obviously the road was bad enough that they were surprised at this Mercury Taegu made it as far as it did with no bumps anything essentially they had a quarter tank of gas and they were not stuck in the snow. Basically what confused investigators is that the driver either use astonishingly honestly amount of care precision our new the road well enough to anticipate every single rut. It's pretty incredible and then they had gas they weren't stuck so they're high up enough and there was some snow avail on the ground. They essentially abandoned fully functional car is what they're really looking AETNA and that's kind of what confused them. It's like you have this car of guys there either lost or something and they left a car that had gas that wasn't stuck that wasn't damaged yeah so very very very confusing to investigators working on this so now we have a big gap. Were basically a search churches occurring. They didn't have any updates so from February twenty eighth to March third. We're going to be talking about Rangers. Search the area for five days found on no trace of the men to make things worse soon after the search started a severe blizzard moved into the area and they got nine inches of snow that dropped in the upper mountain so this is an obviously hinder any of the search efforts that they had the search teams had so many issues that they stated that they nearly lost men themselves two days later they had these things called snow cats that were having issues these like the boxy vehicles with tank tracks for snow and I'm trying to think of the do you remember the movie Goldeneye. Can I the James Bond movie I do. It's it's do you remember those things that they had when they earn like Siberia Yup. That's what they're talking about so they had these snow cats. He's things things that could basically navigate all so they're really bringing out some of the right equipment and they they knew the area well enough that they're gonNA get a decent search and even though they had the blizzard going on so as the news the disappearance spread Joseph Scans contacted the police say he had seen the men between eleven pm am and twelve pm on that Friday so we now also have a guy that saw the news comments said you know hey I actually saw these guys from eleven to noon news that would also fall in line with the timeframe of the drive somewhat after they left that that shop so they saw them eleven pm to twelve. Am Yeah Yeah I did say five PM. I meant okay but he saw them in that window and he estimated that time 'cause we're talking. It's it's a week or two later when he calls after he sees the news so he was driving up gravel road to his cabin when his car became stuck in the snow and unfortunately while trying trying to push his car out he suffered a heart attack so this is this is where this is where the and this is why. I don't want to say like the story but this is what really got me see for this story so the Rub for this is there are two different versions of the story both of which are weird and somewhat creepy alright it version one and they come from this guy who suffered a heart attack and did he die from a heart attack. He did not die from the heart attack and so this yes I guess yeah he told the story he told the story but still it's. It's this is going to blow your mind cause. I know you didn't read this yet. In one version while Joe I was laying in his car suffering from his apparent heart attack he saw two sets of headlights coming up behind him was a car and the other was a pickup truck he he got out of his car to flag them down obviously because he's having medical issues. The two vehicles both stopped what he said about twenty feet from him. The passengers passengers got out then left together in one car. Joe Spent the rest of the night in his car before walking back down the mountain in the morning so oh this so okay. Let's recap version one Joe Johns having a heart attack now remember Joe Johns. Is this guy who contacted police saying he saw the group so he's not part of the moon. I'm going to try and keep recapping as much as possible because there's a lot of actors in this story Joe Get stuck on this road again. This is the road where the this group of five that are developmentally disabled drove up with no issue. This guy has a cabin here and had issues driving up this road. He got stuck in the snow. He he was trying to push his car out of being stuck. When he suffered heart attack? He's laying in his car having a heart attack apparently when he sees headlights come up thinking thinking he's got some sort of salvation. He's going to get help. He flags them down. Both cars. Stop the people exit the cars all enter into one car just simply drive away which means they left the pickup truck there apparently then this guy who's having a heart attack spent the night having his heart attack in his car car in walked out to get help and survived so that's version.
"yuba" Discussed on Locations Unknown
"Unknown unknown? I'm your co host Joey Radio with me as always as Mike Vanda bogart what's up everybody thanks for tuning in. It feels great to be back actio. I know we both had some interesting trips while you're gone. Yeah I am besides the Iraqis trip I know we recorded an episode since then but I spent four and a half five days in the back country of Montana Glacier national park and it was absolutely stunning. Just one of my favorite parks you oh you and I went there. What was it five years ago? Yet has to have five years now. Yeah it was a while ago but we actually stayed at the fifty mountain site that we were we were at we went a couple other places that just really really beautiful ended up covering about sixty two miles in that period of time so we were really moving but it was it was a great trip didn't running running any bears couple the rangers about their missing persons case. They're working on now. Also got some got. Some good information might have to do not bestowed on him in a little it just to talk about that guy cool yeah so you were out in glacier and I was actually up in Alaska about a month ago and it was amazing. It wasn't really what you'd call hiking trip but we did get some hiking in I went hiking with buddy and Denali for a day and then we did some hiking too a glacier near in your anchorage and we also did some psychiatry around glacier called Spencer glacier so it's really cool. I recommend Alaska anybody. can get up there. We had a lot of issues forth forest fires while we're there so the air quality towards the end of the trip was pretty subpar but we were able to get all the all the good hiking in that we could so great ship nuts excellent you sit out of the triangle though right in the heart of the triangle right in the triangle triangle you made it out so that's good I went into the triangle the Alaska Triangle and came out so it can happen tastic so besides the trips were on we do. Have you know one exciting update. We mentioned this on our last episode before the break we have bedding. I didn't contact with some people that have known are Nelson. This is a guy that we did one of our cases on a while back. One of the guys is known him for a very long time the other guy did did some hiking with them so we are planning to have an interview with these guys to kind of shed some light on Arvin and bring the light some information. That's not publicly known so so stay tuned for that. I'm not exactly sure when we'll drop that at this point but it will be in the next couple of months yeah. We had a coordinated with them. I and I'm I'm personally very excited because a lot of times when we do these episodes we we work off the information we can get from police reports or from news broadcasts in its you know some times times if anyone's ever been interviewed and seen what their interviews like in the paper afterwards there's a lot of something can be missed out so we were contacted by this group because they said there was a couple of things they wanted wanted to correct this on. There weren't weren't any major differences but it also helps shed a light on the type of Person Auburn was in and get some better insight into what could have happened. Yes yeah so it's exciting that they they reached out to us and are willing to talk with us. You know it's very personal when you know somebody and they go missing the you know the person so we appreciate you know that one other thing we do have a Amazon storefront and Joe and I have been putting products on there that we highly recommend in have used in the back country so if you want to help the show out go to our storefront and purchase. We've got tons up there. We've got different print type of climbing here a lot of stuff that you can use in the back country and every sale we get a little portion out of it and it helps us keep the lights on so if you're in the market for any and you hiking gear check it out and we'd like to think this week sponsor Verger they've been helping us out mostly through the first half of the show so we're glad to have them back when we restart art these episodes again I've been recently. I think I posted about this on facebook. 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The world reacts as Iran increases its nuclear power
"Clifford help us explain the significance of Iran blowing past this low enriched uranium threshold. I think they're trying to up the ante. I think they're trying to <hes> tell the Europeans Yuba better find some way to give us some economic relief if you want us to abide by any of the restrictions of the J._C._p.. Away the joint comprehensive plan of Action <HES> and I think they're trying to give themselves themselves as well more leverage. Should there be any future talks so with the U._S.. <hes> about Iran's nuclear weapons program I mean what do you think tyron gullies he. I think they don't go to objectives so one is for send the signal to the European but they have to do more in order to compensate for the American sanctions and the second thing is to send a warning shot to the United States that they run S. capable of continuing resistance to American maximum pressure and I think down of the drone in also alleged Iranian bonding of some of the oil tankers cruise to the Strategic Strait Faye of hormones at basically to indicate to the United States that they Iran has the necessary capability to cause a Lotta problem. The United States continues to build up its forces and evolve into possibly trying to you know China India think the Europeans again to help Iran out. I Clifford well. I'm not sure the Europeans can do what the what the religion of the Islamic Republic want done to offset in the sanctions regime. That's been imposed by by the U._S.. I think they have been trying over time. <hes> they have a financial mechanism called insects that that may or may not <hes> function. I think even the dozen won't satisfy the regime which is fueling wounded this intense pressure and I think the regime is trying to decide delete simply wait out this administration and hope for a Democrat to come into the White House in the next administration who is more likely to say the J._C._p.. O._H. Finer who'd be more like a bombs policy but that's a Monday time that's eight months. Tom Clifford yes. I I think they are seriously thinking of two things. I can't tell you what decision they made or if they have one is. Let's run out the clock for the next estate months. Let's see can get the Europeans to help us do it to relieve. Some of the economic stream of the sanctions have put on us the other possibility is let's find a way to go into negotiations. I do think that people such as Foreign Minister Javad Zarif thanks look I can beat these Americans in negotiations just as we be the Obama Administration negotiations but I think they would also like that over the receipt as a win would be if they could get some rewards simply for coming to the table rather than waiting when it comes to the table. Able in seeing what they can give up in order to get some relief and I mean what do you think I mean we'll Iran's action. Hey Prompt Europe to join Washington in sanctions. I try to resist it for as long as they can simply because I think a continuation of the nuclear agreement to ease in the interest of their European powers and <hes> as you know <hes> prison macron has sent Donald Trump advisor to tate on in order to persuade attitude it onto to participate in our joint commission for the all being the nuclear dispute <hes> by the fifteenth of July so we will see what's going to happen <hes> but <HES> I do agree with the proposition that I don't. I think that the European will be able to mitigate the effects of the sanctions onto the extent which they'd on his really desire by that is not really a major point for Iran at the moment. I think the regime can take care of itself. It is really on in society but then I gained the regime has necessary forces at the disposal in also sufficient public support behind it in order to deal with any internal disturbances which <hes> effects of the sanctions immediately now this week's news news from Iran. It's clearly in response to Washington's decision to pull out of the nuclear deal. This was of the Obama deal of two thousand fifteen. The trump administration pulled out last g Clifford. Was that decision by Washington wise given that you could make the argument that Tehran is now more likely to develop nuclear weapons well. My reading of of the Iran deal is that it was fatally fatally flawed agreement. It didn't stop the Islamic Republic Veran from going on to develop nuclear weapons met best the lane that temporarily of the sunset clause has made it very clear that within ten to maybe fifteen years of two thousand fifteen when the agreement was concluded Iran would would be essentially welcomed into the Nuclear Weapons Club now you can say but by then surely this would be a moderate liberal regime. It wouldn't be a terrorist sponsor it. They want to worry about their own people getting there and being more prosperous that there are no indications that was that that's the case. I don't believe that is likely to be the case so I think the sunset clauses were really fatal. Florida this deal to other fatal flaws one their missile program they been continuing to develop missiles that can deliver nuclear warheads <unk> anywhere on earth use of I._C._B._M.'s. That's part of the nuclear weapons program. There's no use for a third thing was that I do not read that the verification inspection system was at all rigorous <hes> the Iranians made very clear. You're not going to inspect military facilities. What are the chances that nuclear weapons might be developed at nuclear weapon military facilities while very high since they've done that in the past and then you have of course the nuclear archives set were purloined by Israeli intelligence which shows that they were they still had every intention of developing nuclear weapons although they've never said they? They've never acknowledged yes. We had a nuclear weapons program. They had they said not. We don't really want them but by the way we're going to ratchet up. Nuclear weapons program the one we don't have if you don't do what we want. I think the J._C._p.. Away it was a bad deal. They have made it very clear that they do not want to cross the threshold in order to produce a nuclear weapons and the the supreme leader Earth Rally Hamanaka. He has repeatedly say that production of nuclear weapons un-islamic doctors not to say that there may have not been a secret military nuclear program that may be so but at no point did it on jons bakeries to pollution nuclear weapons but even now if the increase then Richmond Bodega rhenium to the point where you would be able to produce nuclear weapons would be quite a few years away from anyway marquess cycling camera and Clifford my in Washington Clifford you mention that Iran is a state sponsor of terror or get almond to talk about that in a moment but this nuclear deal clearly filed to stop Iran's regional activities of supporting these Shia militia across the broader Persian Gulf Clifford how can Washington with its regional allies stop. The spread of these Iranian backed Shia militias well the first thing that it was accomplished by pulling out of the Iran nuclear deal is we're no longer financing that effort. We were giving billions of dollars the Islamic Republic of Iran we I think hoping that they would use it again to build hospitals in schools. Goals and create jobs of the instead as you say the Shia militias just a few minutes for this call. I had a Syrian American activists here in my office and he was explained to me what's going on in Syria. He Warns Organization. That's very active there. He said members of his organization <hes> murdered he says Iran not only occupies Syria. It's not only part of Iranian <hes> imperialism in the region. It's colonialism as well well. They are moving out soon. Be Populations they are moving in Shia populations not just Iranians but she is from Afghanistan from Pakistan from other parts of the of the world that that have come to be part of the Shia militias. They're taking over towns refugees finding out that their homes have been taken over this is terrible stuff we also have had as you know with Iranian help over five hundred thousand people killed in Syria and millions millions displaced. This were happening being anyplace else in the world imagine with the news coverage would be in what the average would be and here the international community sort of shrugged his shoulders and Yawn somehow we have thirty hospitals bombed in recent days <hes> thousands and thousands of people in the long Medicare these possibles near inlet they were not bound by accident they were bombed on purpose and and it seems to me that the international community so-called as no intention of forcing any sort of accountability accountability on Tehran even though its responsibilities absolutely and I mean I should stress I had the pleasure of being on the A._B._C.'s Q._N._A.. This week and I made the point that according to Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch a lot of these Shia militias leashes have committed appalling human rights abuses against Sunni civilian so how worried should we be about Iran's proxies in Syria and Iraq and Yemen. I mean if you're sitting in Tehran and looking at around the country I mean the outside that country you'll see that there's been surrounded by hostile forces in one form or another and what you really basically tried to do that is true extinction. You're a determines and resilience and this is what the Saddam regime and by no means is <hes> the democratic regime or does not is not involved in human rights violations or for that matter is sponsoring particular group said in the region but what what has been done is to build regional security architecture right basically supposed said that Santiago regime and the survival and that's why they have been very heavily involved in Iraq and Syria and Lebanon as well as a AH Yemen and following on from Yarmouth Point <hes> Clifford I mean is it rich for the U._S.. And its allies to be so hard on these Shia militias when let's be frank they played an important role on the ground in Iran and Syria in liberating suny towns towns from the Sunni Islamic state control. I'm sorry I reject the notion that the Islamic Republic of Iran has essentially taken over Lebanon through Hezbollah. If we're defensive purposes they just what is it that they feared from Lebanon. They feared the Christian community. They feared the Druze. I have no idea that's not what they're doing is trying to be is trying to defend themselves. They have essentially as I said taken over at our colonizing Syria they are controlling rolling Lebanon through Hezbollah supported the Lucy militias in Yemen and they are vying very much for influence and control in Iraq as well as well supporting Hamas of course in Gaza they Hezbollah Hezbollah operates also as their proxy in Latin America where it has teamed up with the drug cartels. This is terrible stuff and to say well. They're just trying to defend the regime. All they WANNA do survive. Trust me president trump will say fine. We'll help you survive will support your survival but what you can't do is take over all the other countries in the region and threatened them as they continue to do threatening the Saudis threatening the Bahrainis threatened the Maradas and of course threatening jen inside of Israel somehow that's supposed to be just boys will be boys and it's not just cycle. I think what Iran is <hes> been doing is that mirror image of what the United States has been doing the United States being trying to <hes> and cycle Iran and that's been the case over a long period of time and also in order to contain Iran in whatever way possible enough because policy of containment did not really work and that's why <hes> President Obama <hes> decided to go for a policy.
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"The fairgrounds in Yuba city. It's seven hundred and fifty bucks a month to park their RV here and use the showers. She tears up. It's the sixth place. They've moved since the fire. I don't know how to describe it. Other than. Complete chaos now to hear her tell it folks around here are getting compassion fatigue toward campfire survivors. There's a lot of price gouging. Most RV parks. Don't let you stay more than a few weeks at a time. I don't want a handout, none of us want a handout, but this is made it so impossible for anybody to survive. Especially when you're on a fixed income, and we live on social security. She's hoping to move to Arkansas, she's got family there. And maybe a job California is just too expensive. And there's nothing to rent let alone something that's a forcible. There's no place to go. We're looking at parking on on the fat of the street with a bunch of other homeless. There was already a severe housing shortage and growing homelessness crisis in rural northern California. Even before the campfire for Ed mayor, the executive director of the Butte county housing authority this disaster peeled back. The band-aid exposing just how vulnerable these communities are we've really lost our ability to produce housing is affordable to our citizenry, and this is the larger tragedy the larger tragedy that voice in a story from NPR's Kirk siegler who still in the studio with me what what does he mean, they're larger tragedy? Kirk David backed ourselves into a corner because there's not enough affordable housing in this country right now, so many people are being. Forced to live in these high risk places be they high wildfire risk zones or flooded areas or or flood prone areas, you know, paradise is just the latest example of this. I mean is this town was all but destroyed could just be a game changer when people start rethinking about all of this our housing situation. How he responded his Astor's? Well, that sexually the subject of our next reporting mission where we're going to try to find out next is look at what is out of whack with how we respond to disasters like this and what needs to change. And I think a lot of communities are watching with worry. What's happened in paradise and thinking, it could have just as easily been them or it may be them next coach Sigler haired NPR west with me Kirk. Thanks. Thank you..
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"Carefully at this road if they were being chased oh okay so you make a good point and i think i saw that elsewhere to that like that virtually proves that they weren't chased yeah if anything it shows that they that that say something happened to them and somebody ditched their car who who knew the area i think more likely jack maju go it just would have driven extraordinarily slowly his this is his baby car sounds very sad i think it's just one of those it's probably like autumn's razor it's probably the most simple explanation is you know maybe they just went on a little joy reid guy little lost got turned around the woods and succumb to nature yeah so i find this i said at the beginning this is just a very sad story to me and one of the things that got me was in that washington post articles call five boys who never come back by cynthia gorny from nineteen seventy eight you can find it online but they the she describes ted we're as ready for this that ted got a good chuckle out of phoning bill stirling in reading from newspaper items are all names from the telephone book like that's what he was into that made him happy and i'm sure bill stirling thought it was hilarious too but like they were just the screw of friends and katie imagine like we're like going through the phone book liquor silly names going and picking up the phone call in his friend bill sterling and same bill get a load of this one bills his laughing on the other end of the line and like they just had like this such a pure life like almost like a enviable life in a lot of ways and that they they died so horribly as just just bitterly sad to me yeah i mean they weren't troublemakers and even even the one who had had gotten convicted of a salt a couple of times gary gary it seems like all signs point to the his mental illnesses playing big factor in that which he had gotten in check right exactly all very sad it is very san well if you have any theories on the what you call them the yuba city six five yuba county or yuba city five or six five yeah we wanna hear you can find all of our social media connections on our website stuff you should know dot com and if you like you can also send us an email just shoot it off to stuff podcast at house af works dot.
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"Subscribe analysts in for free welcome to the cabinet of curiosities okay we're back chill we are you promise more said discoveries lay it on all right so the next day after weir's body had been found the searches really own at this point they found a few things i found the remains of sterling in madrid they're on different sides of the road that same road that led to the trailer but about eleven and a half miles from the car right so presumably another what nine miles from the trailer yes which is why i think that they never made it to the trailer but depending that okay all right madrid had very gruesomely been partially eaten by animals of course up there mountains probably after he had died the yeah yeah yeah i i think it sounds like all of this was they succumb to nature and then the animals kind of took it from there right so they dragged his body to a stream he's laying there face up they said with his hand curled around his watch and then sterling was in the woods and very gruesomely they said that his remains were or his bones i guess were scattered over about fifty feet yes and then i think a day or so after that there is another search party that was launched in jackie hewitt's father insisted on being a part of it and jackie hewitt was still missing and very sadly his dad was the one who discovered his remains he found his sons i think spine is is what he came upon yet the same road a lot closer the trailer though but he right like it's a quarter mile or something right yeah i think about right something very very close to it and they also found his his clothes i knew it was him because he has leave is in his shirt were also found nearby and so were he was wearing very stylish platform shoes called get there's which i had to look up and they were actually pretty fresh yeah not the kind of shoes that you want to be hiking around the snowy woodson no definitely not i mean again platform shoes they're like you know that that that rubbery sold thing that like you find like clark's like clark wallabies yet thick rubber soul i think it's called crepe sold they were like those but platform shoes in in like a ripley bottom yeah look at these things yeah they're probably the worst the worst hiking shoes you could ever imagine what these would be good for actually catching ladies probably i guess i mean they're pretty they're pretty cool that that wavy solo looks so strange well look that up it's it's keep your center of balance when you're way up there okay we'll more syncing yeah they were there was a lot of thought put into the shoes and then finally the next day there was a skull discovered about one hundred yards downhill and that was the the final remains from jackie hewitt yeah so they found everybody everybody that is except for gary matthias he was still missing yeah he's still is actually if you go on the yuba county sheriff's website on their missing persons patriots still listed there yeah shoes were inside again in that trailer yep which you know they can't say anything for sure though but it's just that he was in there at one point and they are mayes that he may have like you said taking them off to where the leather shoes guess presumably because they were warmer or his feet were frostbitten had swollen alan he needed the bigger shoes to strike out back outside like he was he was like i can't go out there barefoot and i can't get my tennis shoes on any longer yet so the deal with is like we said he was under treatment for schizophrenia he was in the army in germany and apparently had occasions postwar where he.
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"Stop so that's ultimately resulted in the death of pedestrian and as i understand it what's happened here is that that the false positive sensitivity was actually turned down so you know might have been having a problem with i would driving in the college stop because it saw a plastic bag your bag moves and why it's fluid like human and so they're like this is getting ridiculous my from talking they turn it down and this is what's happened here and so is there a sense of how how yuba has responded have publicly spoken about this yet yeah i think they've they've kind of given the bed details the details of come out and now all the tech companies associated with them have kind of started trying to distance themselves from it as much as possible they've all kind of come at like nvidia who make the use of come out and kind of give an explanation on why there wasn't involved in the people that made the lied of said no it wasn't the nighttime issue like this is why and of course because there's a million companies the bill the different technical hornets go into a car like this and so everybody that makes i'm at a cheap in the back and it had nothing to do with running wise and of course doesn't wanna talk about it but they're saying that's an active investigation so that's what they not talking about it which is actually fair in office but i think what's interesting here is that as offcially horrifically tragic as this is it does really same this technology is not going to slow down right it's not something that is no one's going to magically go you know what not gonna make this technology in the coming months so they best case scenario that comes out of events like this is horrible as sounds is for people and tech companies to learn from it and also us as consumers i think to i guess be mindful about it and to really start to consider the these technology in its very early stages is going to have limitations and they're all going to be real issues with i'm curious to know how you think tech companies should respond to something like this do you think my shoot talk about it do you think.
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"Business reason that they would exist not because everyone else says you need to buy it and just hold onto a dunk in a you must be prepared to news at little it it's obviously always get you at something and that's what i would say yeah i mean from my perspective i definitely agree to educate yourself if you buying stocks in a company would you go buy stock in a company without learning anything about the company let you surely be me is yourself with their product offering in with positioning in the market so at least going like an understand how things work and i think that part of it is also getting over the rational excitement because rational exuberance because everyone at the beginning goes like oh my word everything must be decentralized everything must exist on the blockchain and you have to you have to understand where it's advantageous to do so in where it's not and maybe a clear example of this is uba another people say oh hoop is going to be great when we do on the blockchain but what this is that a lot of what uber does is not right a cool app the bits you call it tax what does is they go into a country and into a city and they are and be to regulators and lobby for changes in regulation when you have a decentralized yuba who's going to lobby regulation yes you might find a technical technically clever way to pay people to rot lobby regulation but it's extremely difficult we as a company is incentivize from a profit perspective to go in lobby for regulation that helps business so decentralized yuba may not be beneficial at all it might be but it's the greater likelihood is gonna end up with taxi drivers going in calling those decentralized revisited beating the guys over the head which there during a ready but at least you have a company that can step in prevent that it becomes deeply problematic when you have that rational exuberance decentralize everything so take a step back sink camberley about what actually benefits from decentralisation than from blockchain of big.
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"Gary and shannon our next news and rues by the way next friday august 11th can be goldenrobed brewing right down the street in glendale aung san fernando road during the show live from their ten till two metre simoni due in their show from two o'clock six clarke that day there was a strange story yesterday that was going on while we were doing the show at a rastafarian church outside a yuba city there's a lot to unpack in a sentence if you've ever driven out east of yuba city which is go to sacramento drive and other forty forty five minutes or so and make a right turn that's yuba city you go out into the hills there and we are talking some back woods people stuck in the gold rush like i mean it can get pretty harry back there you've seen deliverance ripe and think of think of deliverance well there is a dispute at a rastafarian church in a place called oregon well it's not even oregon house it's between oregon house and dobbins that's how crazy lee remote this area is somebody somebody coal from this church believe it was the leader of the church a woman named heidi grossman lap she called 911 to say that a guy had become violent with fellow church member now this guy had been either staying on the church property you're was nearby the church and in exchange french for room and board and a little bit of pay he would take care of the pot plants because it is a rastafarian church the way that a one of the lawyers desribed in was as a trimmer grant which i've never heard before trim agreement the nickname for a seasonal worker who would travel from grow to grow during the marijuana harvest season i guess that's going to be a new word that we have all over the place since in california now anyway he gets in a fight with somebody there at the church and when deputy show up they chase him to his nearby house or a nearby house the homeowner who actually owns the house hence the name homeowner gives him permission to go inside to make sure that he was in hiding in the house well lo and behold he was he short time after clearing residents they were engaged in gunfire requires us more rounds the number of rounds to determine this suspect rounds fro the 14year reality is our standing for medical personnel these twice once.