20 Episode results for "Youth Development"

Zidane on new striker "i am not asking for anyone" plus we look at Betis

The Real Madrid Podcast

09:57 min | 8 months ago

Zidane on new striker "i am not asking for anyone" plus we look at Betis

"We'll come back to the realm attracted podcast. Now, coming up, we're going to be looking ahead to the weekend's game with Real Betis, and we'll ran up all of the latest stories that are making the Madrid news across the media's Today. Don't forget you can catch up with all of the previous episodes of the podcast via the website at www dot around that are at podcast dot com, or by any of the major streaming providers that stop wears a look waters be making the headline news of the last few days will. The summer of bulking up the cash reserves Madrid that rose on unabated, just short of five million added after the sales of lear NATO leads and Hernandez to. Janice. Now, it brings the overall bang to this summit over one hundred, million euro and this could be boosted further Yovich Myron Mariana could all potentially move either permanently or indeed on Lens further reductions in the salary bill could well be gained well, all of these reserves, of course, helping ease the significant loss of revenues that are being felt by everybody at present they are. In Italy over the last twelve hours or so suggesting that runner have agreed a fee with Real Madrid and personal terms with Maya Ralph, the fee is expected to be ran twenty million euro. There is no official word yet from anybody that's Madrid or indeed from any of the players presentative. Now, Youth Development, of course, is a key element of the rhetoric philosophy and many have been commenting over the last twenty four hours after seeing Dan's at third son Theo scoring debut. Go for the Casteel team in ready has coaches and those behind the scenes wondering if this could be the one who has inherited his father's talent I'm just stay with the Sedan family member. Also revealed yesterday that ends Z. Dan has headed to Casablanca is signed to play with the Moroccan champions but another day and French media continue to speculate on Mbappe as future with the leading sports paper Lake keep believing that in the cards market he could leave for as little as one hundred million euro next summer as opposed to the three hundred, million, the PSG actually want very delicate period this Al Levy because they can't agree et Cetera fee next year then twenty, twenty two could see him leave for nothing of the end of his contract. Plenty of focus over the course of the weekend on Vk, Yovich is common knowledge. The sedan wasn't happy where the physical condition of the player on his return and in the subsequent weeks leading to the kickoff to the new season. Remember to the zoo. Dan has been a supporter of the PLA- Preparing to overlook a difficult first season. Now though is patience is wearing a bit fin. What is certain is that he needs playing time and if the Dan doesn't think that he's in condition enough for those minutes to come with Madrid and they could be away on loan some despite interest from Italy sensible group who seemed to be a move back to Bundesliga where he enjoyed his best season so far though Eintracht Frankfurt's sporting director Freddie, Bob Babich sort of half rule it out he said nothing is happening at the moment but I, do keep my door open at present though do not expect any big money signing here. Now. Let's turn our attention to this weekend's. Rail at East, we will roundup sedans comments from his press conference shorts labor, trading today involved virtually all of the squad included ISKOE ASENSIO and has. As. Well, as the two players who made their debuts last week, he and Marvin speculation now starts as to whether or not. We will see a return for has out of we do. It's most likely to be as a substitute. All three is in and has an offer. To travel only absences from Training Today Mariana? Who is still recovering from Tulsa lightest and mealy towel. Row. Betty's happing disappointing in the last two seasons of fifteen, thousand, ten placed finish in just once since their promotion twenty, forty and fifty eventually finished in the top ten of six place back in two thousand, seventeen eighteen but things look significantly different member of Pellegrini. He's at a really good stalled their season to insult to against his out of as. Vita lead with equally importantly. No goals conceded I took the until November last year to actually registered to wins in a row as for what to expect from Pelagreeny team tomorrow. He's acted for a forty three one formation Morena brought trump Manzi an emerson, the back for value and Gita Rodriguez in his first full season here in midfield. The Evergreen Joaquin thirty nine years of age captains the team it is three hundred, seventy, nine severence here since his debut against Compostela which actually came twenty years ago this month Becca on the right canal is on the left who have both had very good starts to the season and Iglesias up front creating chances. He has not been an issue for them. So thirty eight is created in two games. Remember Madrid may have ended nil nil against Soviet Dad, but sixteen shots on target out of twenty, one themselves on paper at least it looks like a game where it goes certainly shouldn't be in short supply when you look back at the history which we will now, you will see that there is some very, very high scoring games overall, and this is the one hundred fourteenth meeting between Betty's and Madrid with Madrid waiting sixty three times twenty four draws. One in the last three meetings, Betty's winning this fixture to one last season. But the half breed some very big scoring wins for Madrid February of two, thousand, eighteen, they won five goals to three ASENSIO getting a double that day and in October of twenty, sixteen Real Madrid. That biggest away win in this fixture's history winning by six goals to one ISKOE got a couple of that day as well as Roma's points. Team Collapsed County Bensman has always enjoyed this fixture as well. Eight goals he scored during his time he had just four short of the record goalscorer in this fixture. That is Fahrenheit push cash as well. Pellegrini his record against Madrid is a very good one to three victories in nineteen games. Right. Let's take a look at what has been talking about in his press conference today, which has just concluded on the opposition. He said, we know we are up against a very good team. You've had a great start, but it doesn't change how we approached our task and preparations this week we want to play well and we want. To improve on the condition. The likely involvement of has essential or indeed Lucas. Yes he said some will travel but remember they've not done much training. The important thing is to get them fit and ready. We have a long season with a lot of games ahead. Again, he was pressed on hazards condition. He said look he has no discomfort from his injured. The moment pretty has had only a few sessions of training with the team he has to take it slowly. Plenty of questions, of course, on the potential rival of new strikers Dan's on this he said I am not asking for anything, but anything could happen up until October the false, which is, of course, the transfer window shuts you he said are interested in who is coming in I am very happy with my squat. About Yovich and Ben's man the potential of playing together and can they played together? He's eighty s they can play together. I have never said they can't on the lack of a goal. He said look I don't agree we not effective. The important thing is balanced and I am sure we will score goals undefined at a press on cast mirror who for some was a surprise admission from the opening day said, why didn't he played last week? Last week it was casting mirror next week. He will ask me about somebody else who doesn't play tomorrow. We have many games to play some. We'll blade more than others, but that is the life of the squad. All of the players matter to me and each one will contribute something positive throughout the course of the season I mean are that just about wraps it up. For today we will be back early next week to back over the course of the weekend. Thanks for your company today. Enjoy what should be a great game on Saturday evening the moment though for me Tim capable 'til Monday bye. Bye for now.

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New Years Voting Special

Boomer and The Millennial

39:09 min | 4 months ago

New Years Voting Special

"Right well we are happy new year asks. What's going on guys happy new year. Welcome back you know what it is. We back at it like a crack at it. You got to finish the year strong. Yeah yeah we're a little little ties been long year. I'm yet we're limping. In two thousand and twenty one to say the least. I mean it's been Wow it's been really tough. Thank you dangerfield movies. One more time for our intro spectrum music we appreciate the creativeness of this group for them. working with us and being a part of this podcast boomer and millennial i'm reggie the boomer ramona's millennium okay. I didn't know we were going to do it. And this is bowman the and at you were going to introduce yourself now trying to figure out the right time do that so but yes welcome back as and we hope that you had an opportunity to tune in doing our Christmas special. That dropped on christmas day since then we are back but anyway we can. We actually know what we for christmas so we won't go into that but i'm happy i think mean. I'm pretty satisfied. Guess give cars and we want my sister forgiving getting me. The case supreme keurigs. Yeah yeah it's pretty cool honestly probably when the best gifts you've ever gotten. Yeah yeah you know the where. The curic puts one hole in the cup. This one puts like five. It's like those of you who do not know if there's one thing to know about my father is at He loves coffee. As a matter of fact i'm almost certain he would sell his first born son for that curate. That he got christmas. So things on regina curic anyway. So call me juan valdez. Have no idea. Yeah you got boomer. Boomer moment i think the fact. You won't even made better thing you explain you. Yeah unveiled that well. There was a commercial about coffee. And i don't know which coffee was Anyway they talked about the fact that the coffee being was picked. One valdez there. That was the correct. So every time people think about coffee is juan valdez. Yeah yeah they showed him you know and he had this hat on some bread or whatever yeah okay and he's carrying his donkey and he had like the coffee bean. He's serious appreciate that worked pretty well for marketing because lobby would even do a coffee. Can you produce. This is before grinders and all of that. You know you bought your coffee and it was already grand up percolate. Yeah you know. You don't know what a percolator is. But no i know perky yes. I'll show you this. We have one in savannah at the house. It's okay yeah your parents. Their grandparents had a percolator anyway. But yeah just call me one validates. Yeah so thanks. Get get to stay happy. New year Are happy is new year episode. This also i get out to vote episode as well if you guys didn't realize what was happening. Our neighbor is having a little get together for new year's and It sounding like the very beginning of this is how we do bottle jordan. My song it starts light people talking in the background. That's what it sounds like over there right now which is like the opposite of our own neighbor where we have to do we threaten to do. Health checks yeah. We didn't we. There will be times where we didn't know if the guy that was living there before neighbor now if he was alive or dead see him for days and then when we did see him halfway. They're halfway there guys. So now we have a neighbor lively. We don't have to worry about whether or not alive. She's very much alive here anyway. You may hear that as we come to you from the boomer and island and any you cannot go out the door. wh what is it about it today. Is it that you have to like be acknowledged on attention. Odd reason scratching the patient of new year's and like you know there's going to be fireworks later and that's gonna really Installed yeah so. Maybe that's what it is but we do have a very special guest on the show today For you it is Emory right and emory comes to us from project south and this is all part of our get out the vote. this will drop before We in the state of georgia has have to vote for our senate runoffs between Leffler and wore knock. And of course. Jon ossoff and purdue yes sir and i will tell you that i am just so impressed by the number of people that have been going out to vote and matter of fact you know. We stood in line as long as the line. We stood and we voted for their presidential election. You know it was it. It's really been encouraging. Everybody has been getting people to get out to vote even even in strip clubs they were were playing that really suffer. The first time was to the poll only only atlanta would only all the atlanta. Well you think about that. That's pretty cool I think it reaches a larger audience a larger community. You know what i mean. Shout out to this all about you know especially if especially if it was more than one strip club and they got together and they were like you know we're going to unite. You know what. I'm saying like magic city some magic year some girls from the blue flame yuna or any any other strip clubs that are here in atlanta. That we we don't know we don't know about any of them with what their names are exact but you know i think it brings a as long as he gets people out to vote and there's real change then that's all that matters and i think it works. Yeah i i i. I'm really impressed by that. And we just continue to hope and pray that the outcome is a positive one which is really really needed as we go into twenty twenty one. But we'll see we'll be reporting on that I can't help it. That's my journalism part. You know reporting. We'll be talking about it. Definitely and podcast to come. We wanted to share our discussion and talk. We had with emory right. Enright is co director of project south and alanna based movement building organization that was founded under the name institute for the elimination of poverty and right is active in youth development and organizing and is founder of you speak truth. Radio is a youth led program on public. Affairs is also the founder of the nia project a black youth development organization that began in nineteen ninety eight and active from boston to atlanta as a project. South co-director right continues to implement movement building actions local regional and global outreach and is a great grassroots program It's been around a while. They've done a lot in lack radio and our boots on the ground organization when it comes to mobilising individuals especially young people So we're really happy to talk to amr about that process and how They were actually able to help. Term georgia blue so emory. Can you talk about the history of how georgia really cause for what i've been hearing. This is like a almost twenty year kind of thing. That's been going on. And it kinda culminated with stacey. Abrams running for governor. And in this kind of this was sort of the next step. So is that how you how you see it. Definitely you know. And it's it's a pleasure to be on this program and discuss Some of what's going on in georgia. Because i really feel like the whole story. Just you know. It's hard to catch her in a soundbite and so a lot of the news that we get Isn't soundbites but but programs like this really allow us to go deeper into Into what's really going on behind the headlines and and and that's exactly right we have Really over twenty years of hard work Consistent and very visionary work that's been happening throughout the urban labral south here in georgia and that's really what what the culminate on election day with with turning the state so called blue and and really that that blue red framework is one that is used again as shorthand to understand really a deeper Situation miss wasn't as much about A blue represents the democratic party and and red represents the republican party think. This was really about sort of consciousness raising and and Connectability work. that's been going on in georgia. It's not about either political party but really it's about what's in the interest of most people here in the state of georgia and and most people on election day said Trump is not in the interest of most people and so voted him out of office. And that's what the so called blue state thing really represented but but yes you had grassroots organizations like southwest georgia project. They're really started in the nineteen sixties. If you look at any electoral map over the last twenty years you'll see this little blue dot down in southwest georgia and i. It could be you know anybody could wonder why that is was because a forty years of grassroots organizing in by shirley chirad and charles gerard and the whole crew down there Doing doing that organizing work and so you know. This was the result of some long term organizing. Work that really. You know just made the difference in this election cycle interesting. So i think media has been Has played a huge part. And i think in in some of the more major elections especially this year you know with like twitter and i mean the news you see the headlines and you hear the sound bites and everything. How do you think media will play a part in this upcoming election. Do you feel like it'll have a huge role in this election or do you feel like it's maybe not so much compared to maybe the presidential election and some of these other you know other elections that have been going on so i i you know i think it will play. Hopefully a big part in getting people to turn out that. The news stories today have focused on how difficult and challenging. It is here in georgia to get a voters to turn out for runoff elections. And so i think one one aspect of media that's very important is whether social media or radio You know internet radio podcasts. And also just regular terrestrial radio is when you're when you start to hear some of the same messages when you turn on your radio in the are win you Turn on your Your favorite podcast when you Into your social media and you see this sort of echo of of some of the same messages everywhere you go. It just really does help. Reinforce us to do what we want to do. Which is go out and be a part of making some really powerful and positive changes happen but the effect of media to create that sorta positive echo effect To just remind us about what's at stake a that. We really do need to go out. And everybody's got to make some sacrifice to get out there and vote whether they vote early or on election day. But i do think yeah. Media is going to hopefully play a big role in this again in this election is as you're right. It did side national election. Because i've definitely seen a lot of commercials and ads if it's not on tv on youtube. And i want you to my playstation. I watch youtube. Oh my phone. So you are kind of getting different ads commercials and things like that for the runoff election. You know kind of where you look on social media as well i'll see stuff is so i guess it is kind of playing huge a a much bigger role i think now than in years before. But how how important do you think this. Runoff election is critical. I mean it. Definitely in terms of the makeup of the senate and We remember you know For those of us who lived through it or or who just you know. Remember from recent history when The obama administration cayman to office. There was just so much resistance from the us congress to Passing any of his agenda. There was just a huge clamping down on all of the possible policy agendas. He was trying to implement In that first hundred days and so That could that we could have a repeat of that in this in this biden harris administration. Where because there's not a majority in in the us house or depending on how things go here in georgia in the senate there could be the sort of legislative stonewalling of any sort of progressive policies. Or or just hoping to rollback some of the regressive policies that were implemented under the trump pence administration. And so i think that definitely in terms of the the senatorial makeup and hopefully having vice president harris be a tiebreaking vote or majority in the senate could be decisive. But i think it's also important just because we want to prove that this wasn't a fluke on election day that we can come out even during a run off and really show the power of collective action at the grass roots. So all these policymakers whether they're republicans or democrats know that they have to hold themselves accountable to the will of regular everyday people and And so you know the turnout is going to be big. But also what we're able to keep momentum going after the election of this runoff is also going to be a big emphasis certainly for project sal and for many of the organizations working year round around civic engagement. We have to come out and stronger ways than we ever have before really because stakes are higher than they have been before wanted to ask you about project south in the southern movement assembly and grassroots organizations. That are really working together. But before we get into that with this being such an important race so much money being pumped in the georgia. Everybody's looking to come to georgia to do whatever i know andrew yang's since his moved here. How does that really have an effect on on what you guys are doing at the grassroots level. You know you're so right. I mean it's It's one of these things where could become a real big opportunity for grassroots organizations. But there's a lot to be concerned about just like when people move into neighborhoods that Maybe have been marginalized financially for many years In a way georgia has been the marginalized and in many ways that the national level But when people do that at the neighborhood level you know sometimes we call that that whole process gentrification and i really do feel like there is a sort of gentrifying threat or concern that we have attention to as people move in from out of state san. Oh you know We we're here to help but not respecting. All of the people that have lived here have been working here and it really have a plan that clearly worked. I mean our are planned worked in this last election. So i think we should. We should be trusted and respected. As as georgia organizations as georgia leadership to really be at the forefront of decision making in terms of how these lands roll out towards the runoff election. Also think there's a there's a huge opportunity for people given everything that has been sort of pushed to the fourth front through. This whole black lives matter reckoning this year with young people coming out on the streets just saying enough is enough not only about police killings but just about anti-black racism in general. I think we have an opportunity now. because of of all that courageous work that primarily young people but people of all ages have been taking part in Over the summer to really say okay. Well how can black lives matter in terms of how we enter into the state of georgia. How can we make sure that we're looking at black owned Firms to only. How can we look at black owned companies to contract If we need photography support our video editing support how can we just go to our friends of a friend Who might be just part of the same old same old. How can we really work hard. And we used to call it. Affirmative action how big -firmative action eight let. Let's really Look for black. Owned or latino owned companies to contract with instead of just go into. What's easier convenient because what using convenient could be reinforcing that old anti-black racism that we've been dealing with for generations. Here yeah and it's going to be interesting to see how that plays out in the end When we go back and start looking at this and all the money coming in where did it go and who actually benefited from that. That influx of me is dollars. How do we hold them accountable to make sure they do that or can you. Well i think you know To this earlier point around the media and sort of some of the new opportunities with social media. I do think we have a a an ability to highlight things in real time Through social media in a way that we did before. so i think we should all Pay attention to how we're seeing money move and really highlight it on on medium lamb to say look. These are some organizations. That really had a lot to do with this last Electoral victory and need to be supported. Now i think we can use social media and new media to do some of that not to necessarily call people out but to To really inform had manager for real time What the needs are and what may be some missed opportunities. We can already see. And then i think it's going to be up to us as as Black led organizations here as people color led organizations here in georgia to just do what we can. We're not going to be able to steer the The hundreds of millions of dollars. You're right that are gonna be spent. But how can we try to advocate for a getting some resources and then spreading those resources around in a way that sort of raises the ground for all of us riding on the grass roots. And so again. That's something project south is really Working with our partners to do is to get some resources here for this short term election but invested in our partner organizations across the state of georgia that are doing good work towards this election and are going to be doing good work after this election and so really need to be invested in. Well let's talk about project south and not just what you're doing for this election but what the organization continues to do and a little bit about the and i read about the the southern movement assembly a consortium of grassroots organizations in the south and You guys have kind of put some plans together. And how does all of that work. Because i think people say grass and they get excited and they go yeah. We got a grassroots effort and we got a great but most people don't understand what that means. no yeah they. They don't know how it works right. They know it means that people on the boots on the ground. It sounds good. Yeah sounds organic. Sounds very you know rooted for the people. Yeah yeah people. They don't really know what's going on. So and the work that goes into it. I think to sochi speaking about that from the project south perspective and what you guys are doing definitely leeann and it's right you know it's again one of these Sort of buzz. Words are soundbites that that loses meetings sometimes and in the sound bite. And i i appreciate the question because for us. Grassroots organizations just really are organizations that represent community people living and working and going to school Every day and i think extinction between grassroots organizations and other types of organizations are really In the makeup of organizations so grassroots it can mean a lot of different things. I think a lot of our Fraternities and sororities are part of the grass roots They are they are organizations represented by people work working going to school. certainly Our community centers are are social. Justice organizations are our civic organizations. You know for for many times. And and i know This mostly from from a sort of historical point of view but until the grassroots social movements were able to End what's commonly called so the jim crow but what really could be caught apartheid Country in the nineteen sixties and nineteen seventies. Until until that time a lot of what today we call grassroots were just the organizations that existed in the black community. Some were a church organization somewhere fraternity or sorority organizations. Some might be an association of teachers. These organizations come together across their their individual purpose for collective purpose. And that's when you have a move and how we think that movements. Yes there There's an aspect of history where you can't plan around. How movements develop. But you can plan around. How people are connected and organized together. And that's really what the southern movement assembly is about it saying how can we as grassroots organizations knowing that can mean lots of different things come together make plans and plans together across our individual purposes and so And for us that is really the building blocks of social movement. There's a lot of different thinking about how change happens in this country but for project south when we look at history. It's hard to see any big moment of change. That wasn't the direct result of social movement grassroots power building. Right you could be out. Legislative civil rights in mario legislation like the americans with disabilities act. right was out of a disability rights movement. You could talk about. of course. The civil rights acts of the of the mid nineteen sixties and that of course was was the result of of grassroots social movement so with the southern movement assembly. We really are trying to build together those connections and it's easier said than done. There's a lot of reasons not to connect but we believe that the two or three reasons to connect outweigh all those reasons. Not gonna because drew connecting at the grassroots. We really can make major changes happen and we have before and we hope to continue to In the years to come so looking at it from a practical perspective how do we get people. Are people people in the community. I mean 'cause there's so many people there are more people that are not registered. I would've had are registered case in point of six hundred thousand people or wh i forget the number registered to vote over half a million people which is a great thing. So how do we continue to build those roles in. What are you guys doing for that. Because it's all about people can vote and getting them out to vote when i think those car clubs and motorcycle clubs are are really good example of again grassroots organization. It's there and The the only thing that isn't going to naturally happen is that type of organization connecting with different types organization. That maybe like project south is is involved with a voter registration or get out the vote drive and so you know we. We think that these types of connections are really powerful because people do anything from a place of sort of Their own passions. What they what they care about. And i am because of people they're connected with and their in relationship with and so what we're really trying to do is is sort of a multifaceted approach one. We have a project that we call the black radio project and so like radio project. We produce public service announcements that. Go out on different Black owned primarily radio stations throughout the southeast and in here in georgia. We're going to be really Promoting public service announcements about why we need to just get back out and vote in this election again. Just to be part of that sort of that's happening media but the elections are juan by tv ads or radio ads or even yard signs elections are won because of grassroots organizing. And so that means getting out and talking with people face to face or zoom zoom or however we need to do it and the In the midst of this pandemic but it really is direct communication talking to people. Somebody might say look you know. I don't vote. Because i don't think any change happened right through voting and that's a valid project. We got to engage that you can I could. I could talk to a person like that and say okay but in this election do you see how if we were able to turn the us senate in a way to move some policy changes that will impact your life. Do you think maybe in this election it would be a good chance to go out and again they might say well like what. What sort of policies going to impact my life and then we get into a conversation about healthcare or we could get into a conversation about a police violence but you or stimulus check with and But but again it's gonna is going to be more than a soundbite bite. It's going to be more than twenty nine second. Psa it's gonna be walking up to the brothers and sisters and that motorcycle club and san Talk about it. And let's share ideas and and ultimately let's try to move forward in this election in a way where we can do it again and And and so to get the job done so to speak in this in this election season by maintaining some degree of power and knowing that that's just one thing that's not everything and so you know we don't tell people we think boating's going to change the whole world but it's an important thing and in this election is particularly important here in georgia so we really we really are encouraging our part of this sort of grassroots organizing person to person engagement And that's really what turns people out at the end of the day. So what are you. What are your hopes for the next four years or even further down line in regards to grassroots organizations and how that affects people voting in in getting out to vote and also just i guess maybe the result of what results could look like after the runoff as well for the next four years starting with signing with the runoff. Well starting with the with the presidential election right. Continue to build on that well for us. You know it's really a and and it's part of our work in the southern movement assembly. It's part of our work with partners here in georgia project. South really believes again. That change happens through social movement here in the twenty first century. I think what's going to be really important. Certainly for the next four years probably for the next ten to twenty years is how can grassroots movements both participate in the existing political frameworks that exist which have a lot to do with elections a policy change but start to build and create alternatives at the grass roots And it's happening all around us but times it's not happening because of everyday people coming together and making a happen It's happening because maybe through business entrepreneurs coming up with innovative idea or in medicine. You know somebody coming up with innovative idea. When i think the real hope and opportunity for project south is how can we as everyday people at the grassroots work together to transform our reality regardless. Of what policymakers want are willing to do and so an example of that is something we're working on in our neighborhood called the mutual aid liberation center. We are in a community that has suffered from persistent poverty for generations community that has suffered through every disparity that you can imagine from healthcare education violence. We have a lot of problems and we have had for a long time well over the last few years we've built this mutual aid. Liberation are to organize our local community and say regardless of what the city council is gonna do a regardless of what the governor is going gonna do. What are things we can do right here in the neighborhood without asking for permission or or help even from anyone else what things we can do together. And we're doing. We've created a community garden that produces produce and feeds people who are hungry during the pandemic. We've passed out hundreds of boxes of food to community members who Just don't have access to Enough nutritional food. We've been able to create a kobe teen education and site right there in our neighborhood. We did it before that was happening across the second best. And it's because of that level of organization that we've been able to build people contributed to it but the point is we were able to to make it happen on our own. And i think that's what we gotta do at the community level. That's what we gotta do at the state wide level. And that's what we gotta do at the regional level here in the. Us south is just make the world. We want for our children or families for elders at the grassroots if we want to have more relevant education we're going to have to yes put for policy change at the at the school board right through curriculum change. But how can we create our own education on initiatives for young people. Right there in the community in some of the things that we're working on so it's kind of a dual approach. We we sort of worked the policy and the existing reality that we're in but we don't stay there. We also tried to envision and create new forms of of a future. that's gonna be hopefully much more beneficial to life and and people being able to pursue and meet their dreams then this current reality that we live in and a buy-in. There's a buy in by by doing that. And you can see it right there in front of you know. If you've got it you know deficits and what you you build a community center or like where are kids can come in after school and and do those guys. Dan partner with organizations. Because i think that's one thing that is so important or are these partnerships everybody sometimes when they wanna do good they wanna kinda sprint out there and do their own thing and then when somebody else down the streets doing the same thing they almost become competition teaming up in partnering up in. You can make more happen that way after doing good. How can you be in competition for doing good. I just. I don't know it. Defeats the purpose. Just baffles me. So emory speaking of project south. How can people learn more about project. South support projects often. The efforts that you guys are doing definitely so project saudi we. We've been around since one thousand nine hundred eighty six who are about to have our thirty fifth anniversary year. Now graduates really excited about that. Of course you can. You can find out more information on our website which is www dot craigs south dot org. Where so at project south. At l. on twitter we have facebook page And so But we're also located at nine gammon avenue and southeast atlanta georgia and although right now we've we sort of close the office for Regular programming and operating emergency programming due to the pandemic and the sort of public health needs. At this moment you know. Generally speaking we encourage people to just stop by. You know an and visit us down there and anybody who wants to get involved. Please contact us. Because there are ways you can get involved Just right from your home If you if you don't wanna go out Because of the pandemic there's ways you can get involved right from your home. Anything else Emery any any parting words before we We we close out. How just You know great great to be on the program. I think programs like this really Do a lot. Or i was just saying about how we got to create our own tools here at the grass roots. And that's what this program is doing is creating our own media platforms It's one thing to to consume media and it's another thing to create media so y'all y'all creating media and a hugely valuable when it addresses political topics or cultural or social topics. Whatever the case may be is a huge contribution. So thank you both so much for which i take you. All right gentlemen have a going. Okay guys you know we just wanna thank emory for being a part of the podcast. And let's have that discussion with him. And i think we learned a lot about not only his organization but just grassroots organizations general. So is this a lot of good information there something. I didn't know before Talking with him so please go out and vote. don't we already you know. Yeah exactly. i'm so Go out and vote people please please. Vote make a plan of vote. The only thing you got to do now is actually go to the polls To make a difference. So i want to remind you that we are coming back in the new year later in the new year we got some shows lined up and we hope you will continue to subscribe wherever you enjoy your podcast. No apple google modify spotify pod. Being you liked stitcher so we thank you. We ask you to join us on social media go to our website boomer and the millennial dot com connect with us. We really appreciate that. We are working really really hard. Yeah the special. Yeah we got some stuff on the way so was just wait on it. Also so excite. No i mean. I'm just you know pretty soon. We started this. What in march april. It'll be a year. It'd be year scares them. How probably april. yeah so. that's pretty cool. Yeah we actually keep this go improvements. Yeah we gotta do like We gotta do something special. Yeah yeah we have to do that on anniversary. Oh one thing we're quickly. You got for. Christmas was they Boomer millennial au yeah so guys. We got our own mouse pads and mugs as well. Yeah so that was a gift that i got a business card. Oh in business yes. That's probably the most important part we we are getting legit here. A and twenty twenty one. Yeah same merchant on the way right but thank you so much for joining us for being a part. Please stay safe mass social distance happy new year. Happy new year vaccine. If that's what you wanna do vaccine we just want you to be safe. And we wanted to continue to be able to hear us and enjoy us know. Of course you could still do that if you have covered so you lose your sense of hearing so if you if you are being saved still listen a if you are being saved still listened anyway. Do the right thing folks. We'll get through this. We'll get through it together but we got to be smart and we got to look out for one another the suspects. You telling me wrap-up march. Yeah just repeating uses. Hi guys so came safe happy new year. Happy new year base.

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The Business of Non-Profits! With CEOs Dawn Reese of The Wooden Floor and Maricela Rios-Faust of Human Options

OC Talk Radio

22:25 min | 2 years ago

The Business of Non-Profits! With CEOs Dawn Reese of The Wooden Floor and Maricela Rios-Faust of Human Options

"Will your child be ready for kindergarten at Chester broke academy preschool. The answer is yes. Our curriculum offers the perfect balance of learning and play our teachers personalized that experience for each child through engaging activities the develop up the skills. They need to be ready for what comes next attended Chester Brooke Academy Open House on Saturday August third from ten A._M.. To One P._M.. To find a preschool near you click the banner or visit Chester Brooke Academy Dot Com. That's Chester Brooke Academy Dot Com. Thanks for joining us at the business growth cafe where each week we select from a menu of topics for a focused discussion with an industry expert to provide insights that can impact Your Business's growth with your host Angelo Ponzi I._M.. Angelo Ponzi your host here at the Business Growth Cafe and thank you for joining US each week we select from a menu of topics that can impact business growth to discuss with experts from a wide variety of disciplines and today the Kathy. I'm excited have Don Reese C._E._O.. Of the wooden floor a Marcelo Rios Faust C._E._O.. Of Human options to discuss how strategy financial stability and leadership of nonprofits are are essential to ensure the long term success and Growth Don Mazzola. Welcome thank you for having before we start. I'll go with Don. I want to talk a little bit about yourself and about your nonprofit create. Thank you Angela again for the opportunity a little bit about myself I started the first part out of my career and the management consulting field with <hes> work in the high tech sector. I had this incredible opportunity work with a visionary management grew with time. His name was randall multi past that he really believed in giving back to the community so when I was in my early twenties I served on the board of directors for a Symphony Board and also health and Human Service Board Cam and then also I started a nonprofit with him in the night in the nineteen nineties and so that really gave me a kind of I believe it's my passion and purpose for the work. I do now thought employer because I'm able to bring arts education human service to help low income youth move forward so the wooden floor is at Creative Youth Development Organization annually provides today four hundred seventy five young people with a rigorous dance education program that we combine with Academics College Readiness in Social Services and I'm happy to say that this is our fifteenth year in a row in two thousand eighteen that we are on track down one hundred percent of our students graduate high school in immediate enrollment higher education. Thank you to do that over fifteen years and in consecutive as we feel it's really honor and privilege with our children then go to become great adults so we also have students now in college in universities all over the country. They've attended attended everything from Wellesley to N._Y._U.. To Cornell to our local community college which we believe is a really great pathway for many children and so the wooden floor has two locations in Santa Ana today when Mile Parts we call it a connected campus and then we're also growing <music> locally and nationally at the same time we have our first national partner in Washington D._C.. Called City dance and they're now implementing our model here under licence structure which we'll talk about in a little bit from caustic wonderful remixed next so I I feel like I grew up in the nonprofit industry. I started my nonprofit career. When I was in my early twenties I was working at Tories arrests and going to school and decided I didn't have enough to do at the time and I took on an internship and I? wiz began. I began working at a nonprofit that was working with at risk kids and I knew at that point that that was definitely something I wanted to do with my career long term the business element always spoke to marry was really passionate about the work of his joining US MS in a management role. There fit knew that I wanted to combine both my ability to be a business leader and my heart and do something that was really meaningful so over the last twenty years I've really been able to look and find my path to what I'm currently doing today. I have the great honor of being the C._E._O.. Of Human Options which is a nonprofit here in Orange County that's been around for nearly forty years. It was founded really with the vision that no woman or child should ever be afraid in their own home and we continue that vision moving forward and what we've really looked at as as an organization is really igniting social change in this county and getting this county in particular really recognize relationship violence as an issue that impacts everybody and making sure that we're educating and advocating for those affected by both victims and survivors. It's an empowering those survivors to make a change and to be able to heal on the path such a great honor to be here. Thank you from biting. Absolutely I think this is a great topic for discussion. As I think I mentioned prior to coming in we've obviously been promoting this event it and we have gotten a lot of likes and views and Ria purposes on Lincoln so this is obviously a lot of folks are waiting to hear this conversation one of the things I've heard from both of you it's really about that passion and commitment and I think that that kind of is at the heart I would have to believe of Fennelly as leadership of a nonprofit but those that that are you know under your pure view working for you as well as people like myself that are might be helping out or donors owners so people come to you that passion and that fire like you have or the come with curiosity and in then they evolve into really wanting to be part of this who has to take this lenny when Marcelo Yeah. That's a great question at human options we have the benefit and of really having people come to us with passion and a connection to what we're doing and it's interesting because that connection continues to grow and yes there's a little bit of curiosity think in the beginning but that curiosity really stumps from like a heart connection and really valuing individuals and knowing that they want to make a difference and so we're fortunate out there again ization where everybody found our finance person to our direct service person has a connection to the mission and really knows that this is somewhere they want to be in the summer. They WANNA create change dog. I would just add also the way that we also today agree everything with merciless but also the way we do today. especially with our growth right now is that we wanted also to make sure that we we had our culture transcend and so we've actually identified a profile of those employees potentials that come through the wooden floor. We look at mission driven business minded people. We look for people that have a passion for I'm making a change in young people's lives like Marcellus said that is really where it starts mission and passion for if you don't have that energy. It's not a good fit for the organization. We we know that we're driving social change. We're making the difference in people's lives and we need people that are all in it to win it so that's really our philosophy so if you're not there's lots of organizations to find your passion and purpose in you know not all nonprofits for everybody. Not every mission is for everybody. Let's help you if it's not a good fit. Let's help you find that right fit for yourself. So that's great advice that really is because in dealing with anything and you know even dealing with the client for example. If it's not the right fit it gets beyond just a paycheck. If you will right it's it. House to have a relationship you want to have that passion of doing well for someone and <hes> so that becomes very crucial and as a as a business to to add to that is just we then also operate in a way to take care of people make sure that <hes> great benefits if it's not a nonprofits could have known for you know. Maybe maybe a little slide on this things. Our Board of directors especially in the recession didn't make any cuts to salaries because they know where the critical link those we serve from our children and our families families and so if we start to struggle we did a very high stewardship level. We don't have debt or anything like that but it's just tune away to take care of our people to okay so I asked this question of all my guests and usually start off with it so this is about a business business is an strategies. We're talking about the business of nonprofit so ultimately it's about growth and surviving and thriving so what keeps you up at night when you're thinking about that aspect of go back to you the wooden floor so before I mean I'm very fortunate to work at the wooden floor. I say that all the time the waiver run from a structural level and we have something called forward funding that we fund raise funds eight minutes in advance of a new fiscal year start and so we ferries and a calendar for our fiscal year that runs September one August thirty when I say that because most nonprofits to struggle just that financial unknown and for the organization if we continue to raise funds at at or above the same level we're GonNa be okay because we always have a reserve nar refunds so when you kind of take fundraising things is the typical answer we were talking about <hes> marathon. I talked it really gets down to. I interviewed C._E._O.'s in the number one thing that they were concerned with with growing and that's really where I am today. It's how do you maintain culture culture over the organization at both locations or across the nation with your partners. How do you maintain that in for us? We've identified that our culture aspect is all about high quality and making sure that we're learning as an organization and making sure that I'm continuing communicating that the big vision the why we're doing what we're doing and so making sure everybody is on board with that. They're transcending the other locations. They're monitoring the way we do of course correcting doing things because once your culture slips they normally say it eats strategy so I tell you the same thing I think for me it's really at the same in terms of culture you have to really drive your values and really make sure that you're living out the values in the way that was set forth in and the vision and one of the things that we've really been spending time intentionally on his talking about what the values look like in our organization not just values across from peer to peer but values with our customer base which is our stakeholders both donor and our and our clients really. How are we living those values out and and asking questions about the values that may be don't really fit or feel a little uncomfortable? Some of them are new to the big ones that we've been really implementing or curiosity an ingenuity right as an expert. I mean we've been in the field of domestic violence relationship balance for almost forty years which makes us an expert in what we do and yet we have to enter into this with curiosity. It's a really understanding that our marketplace whether it be our clients and our donors need information and if we just have the expert hat on there we're not really really learning from them and ingenuity is now there are much many more barriers to accessing services. There's barriers to getting out of abusive relationships and it could be housing it could be employment to be any a myriad of things and so we really have to think about creative aided ways in which we approach this issue and so for for assets when you think about that that takes a very special talent pool which is critical. It's finding the right person not just in terms of your culture but are the values but also that has the skill set on the ability to continue to. VOLVE and that they're open to that. I think that that's one of the things I think about all the time when we have key staff. How do we keep them engaged? How do we keep them motivated and then? How do we pay them what they're worth while employees? I mean that's that's the challenge all over the place. Now especially with low unemployment appointment rate is keeping people engaged in statistics will show that I think it's eighty five percent of the American workforce is either unhappier disengage so finding that balance and finding that passion that word we used earlier within those people that really WanNa come every day and be committed to driving forward and we just can add really quick is rat also when I was on the critical mass program with recrinching he asked at the end of it what was my guiding principle and I've taken that now throughout the whole organization we now have codified that and I think having your values your principles really codified so you really lead the organization than what happens as you scale growth. Everybody just gets on board because they understand what you're which are all about well the guy that unlike any business right in in providing leadership and making sure that you've got buying that only from the top if you two are the CEOS in the leaders but making sure that the rank and file if you will for lack of better term are on board understand what what you're doing and are committed to US versus they walk down the hallway and they read something they don't understand it right so really getting that buy in and that I think correct Kris that passion and commitment so we think about or at least I think about nonprofits face the fundamental business challenge there nonprofits correct in most. I believe this number might be a little off but one point five million nonprofits in the U._S.. Don't support themselves to competing like regular business. It's about raising funds getting donations the problem end with a typical nonprofit business. My will become the night use. The phrase becomes dependent that we're going to debate that a little bit but the the the question then is truly a nonprofit. Can you innovate. How do you innovate? How do you get away from this independent and you're probably going to school in this anyway? So let's go ahead go. I it just fit which I love the question you know so yes. I'll just start up. We innovate <hes> we have to innovate to stay relevant when the wooden floor has been around since nineteen eighty-three celebrator thirty six year every almost five to ten years you see a new phase little for because of innovation today we actually put it in design thinking where we actually put into practice so it's planning execution and piloting do a lot of piloting because we don't always have those risks dollars to go to kind of play big sometimes but we find through piloting that we find great success that actually turned into major programs to dependency. I think it's fluidity of relationship that <hes> we believe that we're an extension of the supporters passions and purposes well. They WANNA give back to the community so those who can give larger gifts you know we're just so grateful and also those who give just what they can. We're so grateful in so Mitch is making sure that we're aligning our mission. Our own impact there were having our communicating to our supporters gets them excited about helping us in more ways until we do look at diversification of revenue we d look at the way we're structured on a budget basis. We have an endowment fund and we also have planned giving and that gives us what I call the four pillars of financial sustainability that no. One pillar should rob right and so that is a leader in a nonprofit and we work at our craft every day and so it gives us that confidence to embrace that dependency. It's the old adage not putting all your eggs in one of your business and you're like no one customer. Should you'll be a my coat. I have an executive coach said we captured vendor because you know they're gonNa take you over ninety percent of you I agree. I think I think maybe rather than dependency looking at it as how you you get investors right and how you sell the investment that they're making in society and in the future and in your mission and how that advances and so you constantly have to really as you think about it from an investment perspective. It's much easier to sort of break out of that idea of Oh my gosh it's scarcity right 'cause dependency is that scarcity peace and you really have to think abundantly because what we are really marketing and selling is the possibility right and human arsons for selling the possibility of a violence free life unhealthy relationships. That's what we're selling because we believe we you can make that possible and then there's people that really invest in that and they buy in and they become part of that vision for part of that mission and so to talk about it in terms of dependence it really feeds into that idea of scarcity. Yes we have these needs and I agree with diversified funding ending in that's that's all very important and it's also very important to know that what we are doing is changing lives and so really the product that we're selling is a change life crepe point. Let's continue that if you think about he said forty years seven years you you've been around what's been your biggest challenge and that'll be your biggest challenge for both of you but are these similar challenges that you see across the board for nonprofits out Marcella yeah I I think in the nonprofit world specifically in human options an and in the field of <hes> relationship parents and domestic violence. There's this continuous swing between prevention strategies and intervention strategies and there's investment in either prevention because that becomes the thing that we're all focused on our investment in prevention and really I think what it what it is is really beginning to help educate that it's not one or the other but it's both and being able to hold both of those things because when you do that then again we're able to really look across the spectrum we at the organization have talked about our interventions specifically when we talk about relationship violence or domestic balancers very skewed view of what that means it's my gosh that's the shelter based program and so really learning how to talk about what we do beyond shelter doors and really being able to talk about it with removing stigma and it's a very uncomfortable topic and so I would say challenges really hard. We really tell the story of our organization. Tell the story of the impact that we're having and more importantly tell the story of victims and survivors and and the chains that's possible when somebody invests in them and I would I come when I thought of this question. It was really around branding and marketing the traditionally branding marketing falls under what is called overhead in the nonprofit sector her and a lot of arguments but in our sector having a negative and so what we're doing constantly is <hes> as you talked about earlier with fundraising is how do you connect others to a growing mission. Make sure that people understand that you're not the organization you are in the past. You have these big bold visions for what you're doing today that you're evolving as any business evolves and so you have to invest in branding marketing and a lot of times. You have to find creative ways to do that so it's always tidier mission just having an ad on the wooden floor out there just our name would do nothing for us but if we tied to emission retired to a story of a student we tie it that way and we invested in having a board. It also that invest in that. There's this ripple effect from that. You know it out in the Business Journal for instance then we're lazy too and then you see and then you see an article I was able to write because of that telling our story three in a different way and then also you see them at invitation coming out in you but you seek oh my friends and being invited to that event. It's as langer pushed a lot of nonprofits if they don't think through that they normally also don't have staff who outside of development team who actually have marketing teams so those organizations like ourselves know the value of having a director of marketing. You know we have a design now. An associate is like that's how we're also now doing social media like you're talking about. We're able to also make a difference there. Believe it or not we're already almost coming to an end blown by one we can touch and make it a some short comments but I believe I mean both of you have boards. I think fairly extensive boards in an end so I I'm very passionate about the involvement of aboard being active and not passive for nonprofits. How important is for them to have a board and more importantly an active board to help you guys achieve your mission? There help them achieve their man. I think having an active part is critical number. One is to be able to get the method outnumber to be able to make include those connections and really being intentional about who is on your board because you need a diverse group of individuals not just diversity in the traditional sense but diversity in terms of thought leadership and so you need people who have have an entrepreneurial spirit and those that have a very strategic way of thinking about things to create some synergy and then create those connections in the community so they are the ambassadors they are the ones that are telling the story and they are. I think in a lot of ways the most important brown representation that we have from gross store. We just add that. I look at them as partners in our work so they're my thought partners in our organizations thought partners we at the wooden floor. I think it it's different there. So there's different life cycles nonprofits in so you're an emerging nonprofit volunteer driven board you know they're very hands on but as you really evolve your organization to where we are today we operate an exceptional level underboard governance centers and it's really around genitive thinking advocacy visibility fund raising and strategy and so really today. That's where boards need to go in. I would encourage all board members to look at their rolls really differently well fantastic ball. We come to an end we have. We have okay so they'll go back to you. Why don't you tell the folks how they can reach you and if they have interested in learning about the wooden floor or about you or advice in general my Lincoln is Don s res and my twitter account as Donna's raise you can reach me there through messaging? I android messaging also our website is the wooden floor dot org and I might be really happy to talk to anyone about how I can help them also fulfill their passion and purpose in connect when organization if not are somewhere or so yeah I- website website is w._w._w.. Human Options Dot Oregon. My email address is m.. Rios at Human Options Dot Oregon also available Burlington Great. Thank you will thank you both for joining me at the cafe. Today you can find out more about me and read my blogs or review these shows at the Ponzi group dot com or connect with me on Lincoln you can also subscribe to the show at the business growth cafe dot com or you can find us on itunes Google play spotify Stitcher soundcloud and speaker and I've been saying we're coming to Iheartradio soon you but we are there. Ladies and gentlemen join me next week for lunch at the business growth cafe. Thank you for listening to today's discussion at the Business Growth Cafe with your host Angelo.

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Beverley Agbakoba-Onyejianya  You Need All Types to Build a Successful Business

My Worst Investment Ever Podcast

26:03 min | 6 months ago

Beverley Agbakoba-Onyejianya You Need All Types to Build a Successful Business

"Maybe a big reason why Earth didn't work out because I I had my way of looking at it may be that way of looking at it wasn't in the best interests of the whole business as a whole. It was still very much from my angle. Hello fellow risk-takers and welcome to my worst investment ever stories of loss to keep you winning in our community. We know that the winning investing you must take risk, but the windbag you got to reduce it. This episode is sponsored by a starts Academy which offers online courses to help investors better manage their stock portfolios aspiring professionals to learn how to hack any company in the world Business Leaders to make their companies financially world class and even beginners to implement a simple lifetime investment plan. Go to my worst investment ever Academy to get free access to my short-course called six ways to lose your money in six strategies to win where I share the six lessons I've learned from all of these podcasts interviews. Well fellow risk-takers off. This is your worst podcast hosts Andrews. And I'm here with featured guess now you got to bear with me. I'm going to work through this name. I'm going to see if I can do it Beverly Goldberg. Coba Ania Ania, well Beverly welcome to the show. Thank you so much. Are you ready to rock? I am. Yep. All right. Well, you know, we we made a lot of attempts to get together on the phone. So I'm really happy to have you now on the show. Let me just read and introduce the audience to you. And then after that I want you to take a few minutes to tell us about you, but Beverly is a sports and entertainment lawyer and entrepreneur she is an accredited mediator with the Legos High Court multi-door Center and also a member of the panel of neutrals at the Legos Court of arbitration. She has years of experience in banking and capital markets in the UK in Nigeria and is in Nigeria sec-registered compliance officer providing Regional compliance risk management and financial crime prevention advisory support her broad experience in the compliance industry covers Investment Banking brokerage off. Management sectors additionally she is passionate about sports and Youth Development and founded the Legos Tigers football club in 2012. Yay, and the Box the little Tigers football foundation in 2017 as well as a social network for women called GFC my goodness Beverly take a minute and fill out for tidbits about your life. Okay. So thank you so much Andrew. I'm really really happy to be on this show. Okay, so about me I am I always say that I wear so many hats. I'm a mother of three three very boisterous kids. I am a sports and entertainment lawyer with the mediator. I'm also into policy-making. I'm just an all-around person. I suppose. I'm I'm I'm just an ordinary person who loves dead. In many things in my career life and also in my professional life and right now sports and entertainment are my two main areas of focus. I feel like these are you sure is where the continent the African continent really needs that you know that boosts. It's these are two areas that are very very big in in Africa in Nigeria. So I am you know playing my part to help these industries rise and grow by, you know, rendering my legal expertise, but also, you know, I'm really proud of my my football club that I've established itself. It's not easy, but I really enjoy like seeing the faces The Smiling Faces of the players that calm you know, right now I'm locked down the parents are like, when are we coming back to play football? When are we coming back? So that gives me so much joy that I can impact in my own way. And yep. Niche areas that I really really love sports and entertainment. So yes, that's me in a nutshell sounds like you've got a lot of energy in you bring it to those kids and they give it back to you. I'm sure yes, trust me they do interesting. All right. Well now it's time to share your worst investment ever and since no one ever goes into their worst investment thinking it will be with us a bit about the circumstances leading up to it and then tell us your story. Okay? Okay. So, you know, this is actually the first time I'm talking about this publicly. So bear with me I might get a bit emotional back in 2015. You know, like I said, I I get involved in many things. It's something that will always be part of my personality and I make no apologies for it came back in 2015 a good friend of mine in the financial services sector or be. You know, we were talking talking about you know, what was talking about how to you know better Our Lives home. We how can we do more? You know, that's the ultimate question. What is my purpose? How can I fulfill my my life? How can I do things that will make me feel fulfilled? You know, she had this this sense that urge to do more and we got talking about different things we could do and she actually brought up. Hey, why don't we, you know do something in the agricultural sector and because my mind wasn't really ripe. I wasn't too sure what she meant. I was like, okay, I'm open like let's talk. You know, what? What what do you think we can do so she suggested we come up with the butters peanut butter and I was like, what do you mean she goes? Yeah, you know, the butter is peanut butter. We don't have well back 2015 little shock you Andrew to know that we didn't have a well-packaged locally manufactured peanut butter brand. Can you belong to that club? It's shocking. It's shocking. I mean during my research back then cuz like one thing about me is I have a very obsessive personality. I read everything about peanut butter and I was shocked to learn them think the US. It's like, I don't know. It's up there like the top five most popular foods or something. So I said, wow the market for peanut butter abroad is huge. So that's why why you know, why don't we have this so we started investigating researching or B and I came up with the name of the brand. The brand is called Earth who are who are in foul language or be an IR from the ebow tribe in Nigeria, which is kind of located in the southeastern region of the country. So our language is called zebu. So, you know, we're just, you know, looking for names and somehow that name just stuck Earth, you know, the world's Earth Earth food. So the name stock and you know she produce A few samples and I thought they were amazing shared the samples with my network. We had how many samples we had peanut butter samples. We had crunchy smooth, you know, the favorites and then the Ingenuity is she also said let's do cashew butter. It's Nots right nice can all can all be ground so grindage. So yeah, so we did cashew and we did it in flavors. I mean, it was really it was really forward-thinking at the time, you know back in 2015 cultural Market was literally about you know, go to new levels. So we were really on the pulse of what was going on. And the reception we received was incredible, you know, it wasn't like we were selling out, you know in Thousand or anything but you know, the thing about our Market is very few fmcg. That would be the fast moving consumer goods. That industry is really still dominated by the big dog. So in terms of selling out thousands of units even as at now I can tell you that successful local Brands still do not sell in the thousands, you know, we're still averaging hundreds of units. So, you know, we were in it to try and make an impact to try and be part of this wave of change and yeah. So we both found our our step our way, you know, I'll be is very detailed. She's a risk manager. I you know, I'm a bit more brush and rush off you see I I do the pr, you know, I I would go on, you know, talk about our brands in different places. But unfortunately, I guess you know, I am new to business and you know, I I guess it's difficult. You know, this is the first time I'm really talking about this. Yeah, but yeah, there were a lot of mistakes that I made back then. You know business is not easy. You have to have a you have to have a mature mind you have to you have to be able to take a lot of pain as well as she could say, you know, there's so much emphasis on the great sides of business and I'm glad for this podcast true because there's a lot of difficult times in business a lot of difficult times and I guess I wasn't prepared for those difficult times. I wasn't prepared for the clashes that we had and yes, some of those classes were caused by me. You know, when I think about some of the feedback she gave me, you know, I I'll never forget where she told me. I am alone to myself and that hurt you hurt me, you know, I I see myself as a dynamic person people that make me say wow, you got energy Beverly your upper doing and I like that part of me, but you know one thing I've learned since 2015 is dead. Is not denial delay is not denial has become my new catchphrase simply because sometimes things do not have to run at top speed to indicate that you're on the right path. You know, there's something to be said for taking things slow and taking things steady, you know 2015 that was five years ago. I think I was quite a different person them. I believed more in you know, the cats raised the Need for Speed that was like everything about me was fast fast fast, you know, so I mean to be honest, I haven't completely let go of that trade. I still I'm addressing some of those those impatient issues in my life today, you know, my team will see my goodness you wanted now exists. I'm learning that you know, you have to work at a pace that is you know, realistic. It's not about you. It's not just about you and I think that was dead. Maybe the part of the reason why maybe a big reason why Earth didn't work out because I I had my way of looking at it off maybe that way of looking at it wasn't in the best interests of the whole business as a whole. It was still very much from my angle, you know, so, you know, it's a regret that's who knows where it could have gone, but I don't regret it totally because if that hadn't happened, I don't think I would have I would have developed my my career in sports. I guess look the way I look at it. We have so many chances in life to do different things. So when one door closes one door another dog, simply open so long, you know. Yeah Earth was the big Brad that never quite made. It might you can let me ask you can you can you remember a recall? The worst day or the time that you kind of knew it was over. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. So very interesting Lee it got a point where it was just difficult to communicate again. I had my issues and I wasn't confronting them. I think that they are near was over was the day I yeah was the day I got the factory locked? Yeah. That was that was pretty I was pretty rash. I don't know. I I guess I acted very emotionally I was very emotionally driven and I don't know I got upset about something and I I just I just changed all the locks Factory so she couldn't access it. Yeah, it's quite Raw. It's quite a wrong because I'm thinking about it now, like wow, I you know, but wage You know that I've also made peace and I've you know, I've asked for you know, I've apologized for some of my actions. Hm those actions, you know, when you're when you're having and I guess that's also why I fell into mediation because I realized I'm not you don't you don't solve problems by being rash or by not confronting problems. So my Rush response to perhaps genuine issues I had and also generally she she had I I just thought you know, I just closed off and did something really really unacceptable and I'm sure people listening or think what's how can you be in a partnership with somebody and that person goes and off blocks everything off so well. Yeah, it happens. It's interesting. I'm curious. What lessons did you learn from this? Okay. So again, I learned being rash when you are confronted with a problem with the misunderstanding. You don't necessarily have to to act immediately. You don't need to act on whatever comes to your mind first because sometimes the first thing you think of doing can put you in jail, Yes. Yes, exactly. And that is a side of me that I had to, you know had to grow up a bit. You know, I had to break up I call it emotional intelligence is funny. I am now such a big believer in in developing emotional intelligence because it is people who have high quotient off that tend to be better leaders that tend to be better team mates and and colleagues, you know, because you could have the best skills you can you can be the best but what is the point home? REI is so poor. You find it difficult to work with people because every little thing irritates you or niggles that you you know, when you're running a business it is unnatural to age. That's your partner your business partner will agree with everything you say and vice versa not everything your business partner will suggest are things you may not necessarily agree to but it doesn't mean that you should take it personal. I think I couldn't draw the line in the past between, you know, taking things personal and not looking at this from a business perspective things that affected the you know, suggestions of our around the business that perhaps were not my ideas. I would look at it as home all but my suggestion wasn't taken. So I've learned from 2015 that you have to kind of also meet people where they are. Everybody has their own personal. Reference point and it may not be personal. It may just be the reference point. So, you know where we could have complemented each other. Well, she is the risk manager so she can see clearly where the risks are but I am the okay. I'm just going to you know do the networking and go round and network and meet people and moved quickly, you know, so sometimes perhaps I I didn't you know, I took for granted that those skills actually complementary and it's by no means. How do I say this? You cannot measure a fish buy a goat they have three different skills. So that's the way I now see life. Everybody has different skill sets that they bring to bear. So using measuring other people by your standards. You'll never be satisfied. You'll never be happy. So that's one thing I've learned everyone had Something unique and you know, we came together in the beginning for a reason because we felt you know, we're friends and we can complement each other and you know, if somebody gives you feedback that is constructive shouldn't take it personal, you know, when she said you're you're a lawn to yourself. I should have looked I should have sat down and had a little chat with ya. I have somebody said they God gave you two ears and one mouth for a restocking exactly exactly. But let me let me summarize what I took away from your story is a few things that come up in my mind. The first thing is that I while you were talking. I just opened up a spreadsheet of the financial performance of the company that I started with my best friend 25 years ago and it's a Coffee Works my coffee business and nowadays. We have about a hundred or so staff and you know, it's a successful company wage. For the first eight years, we lost money goodness. Wow, and it was brutal and wow, we started just before the 1997 Asian crisis. So first three years, we just you know awful and somehow we stayed in and kept our friendship and our relationship together and built the business. But the point that at that made me open that up and remind myself of the eight years is the idea that I always tell people, you know, if you want to learn about starting up a company don't talk to me go buy a book them all out there and they tell you all about the good side of starting like when you reminded me of is that, you know, there's a tougher side and they don't often talk about it and found a book called. I forgot the name of it, but it was remember. I got it. I got to get it. I used to I used to have it. We called it the Bible but basically the guy said he said, you know, you know the dog World of business and all of this and he said you're not in it. You're a small company and you're going to get nothing and everybody's going to squeeze you out and they're going to want cash and the only way you're going to be able to survive is to realize that you have to fight for everything you get and absolutely when we when we read that, you know, both of us daily and I both read that and we were like, yep, we got to fight to survive. The second thing that I that I took away was what mom used to always say, which is slow and steady wins the race absolutely and then absolutely another thing that you said is it's not just about me you know, what I've learned is in business. We often times to talk about a Runway and say, you know how much Capital do you have to finance your Runway? But I also sometimes say that there's an emotional Runway, you know that people need to know that this is going to take off and you could still have cash but run out of the emotional Runway and so it's important to think All the people, you know involved all the stakeholders and then the final thing is that to be successful in any startup. Generally. What you have to have is you have to have different skills. You need them. You need a sales person. You need a product person you needed the execution and those people don't always get along because they're coming from different places, but exactly figure out a way to keep everybody together. You're not going to have it. So those are some of my takeaways anything you'd add to them just so to bolster what you said about in business you need I would say different parts of the army. You have your infantry you have you know, the guys that go to the front line. You have the infirmary you have all these different parts and then you have you know, the the the captain that you know stands at the front you need. It's I can't stress so much how much you need all these different parts to to support a business and money. Times when you are at the early stages of business you are wearing so many hats you are the accountant the pr the sales off those stresses can take at all which I think is also kind of what happened with us as well because you're operating from in fact now I can see clearly now like this song Because song rain is gone. Now the rain is gone. I can see where the pin points in our relationship came from because you know, I'm there like wage we need to Market we need to go on every station and talk about this product. But then she on the product development side is like look, we need to slow down you guys deliver food. We need to deliver. We need to finish. This product product is still, you know, at the time packaging was an issue not like now where I I always say, you know, there's always the forerunners that paved the way home. And take the pain no packaging is so easy. But back in 2015. It was a nightmare. So there were all these pain points that we were experiencing because we were doing something so new and of course there wasn't much money. So we had to absorb all these different roles and you feel the tension because you're you're in so many different roles and that's something our business owners need to realize that's why the accountants don't agree with the with the market as sometimes cuz the market is one more money. The account is are like look we're checking the bottom line. It has to balance the books. So I would say, you know be easy. I love what you said about how your business I mean not that I love that you bled dry for eight years. Nobody wants that but the truth is I love the song and story which is you stuck it out. Hm that long. I mean there's another lesson because some people may say you need to know when to just close things. You know, there's so many ways. Yep. Look at it before you it clearly worked out. You just need to know deep down and intuitively whether this is for you or not. Angel flogging dead horse off the same time. Don't give up too soon. I know we gave up too soon again because of all the issues surrounding, you know things that just happened and decisions that I that that I took unilaterally because I was like in a hurry and I just wanted us to just move, you know, you know, it's so many things happened in a way no regrets because you know, we kind of we kind of did something that made people sit up and take notice. We kind of, you know, got other people thinking. Hey we can do this too. So now you have other phone not butter manufacturers in the Nigerian Market definitely not as many as you would expect it's crazy to think that five years later. They still not that many there less than five. So wage. We we were in a good Market. Yeah, I mean I'm not going back to that line of business for sure. But you know, no regrets it was there it was. All right. Last question. What's your number one goal for the next twelve months. Oh, my number one goal is digital content. I am really fully embracing. You know, that digital content is the way forward this podcast were on right now is another amazing example of digital content. So I'm going to be focusing on you know, just yeah trying to do something with with with another brand. I've got that in the works right now my podcast develop your game. Yeah. I'm going to be working a lot on that and using my legal expertise into that too. So what is space-age excellent we will watch it and 12 months from now. Let's follow up. Well, yeah listeners there. You have it another story of loss to keep you winning. Remember to go to my worst in vain. Academy to get free access to my short-course six ways to lose your money and six strategies to win as we conclude Beverly. I want to thank you again for coming on the show and on behalf of a starts Academy. I hereby award you alumni status for turning your worst investment ever into your best teaching moment. Do you have any parting words for the audience? Yes, I do just stay consistent stay consistent and stay authentic. Absolutely beautiful beautiful. Well, that's a wrap on another great story to help us create grow and gain most importantly protect our well fellow risk-takers. This is your worst podcast hosts Andrews. Saying I'll see you on the upside.

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Jesse Cruz is living his "Dash" to the fullest.

The Tedd Huff Show

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Jesse Cruz is living his "Dash" to the fullest.

"These eight areas of my life. are going to be what either. Cripple my future or get me through this tough situation that I'm in I've been blessed and fortunate enough to to have the supports knows eight areas of my life and by focusing on eight areas I was able to. Begin the healing process no. Those areas I don't think. No matter. What you believe in your experiences in life, all eight of those areas will influence our our decisions in some way and definitely to the worst time of mine entire life those eight area as were a building block to my future to Mojo award. It's time to open your mind and expand your empire. You're listening to the Ted huff show join in for stories that embrace imperfections and become the inspiration. You need to achieve true greatness in your life through actionable progress in the pursuit of self discovery, self improvement and self purpose. Where will your story take you? Now let's get it started with the man himself your host Ted. Heart. And before I forget be sure to like comment subscribe on Youtube I tunes spotify and at www dot ted dot com that's www dot t. and double d h You a double off dot com now enjoy the episode. Welcome to the Ted Huw show I'm your host Ted of in two thousand and nine returning from a deployment to Iraq, this army that was left alone in a field. Of many people being welcomed back from the deployment at that moment you. He needed to make a change. Upon reflecting on the future discovered a passion for helping this Guy Teens find a positive direction. This passion is led him to Graduate Nazareth College in Rochester. New York. And Community Youth Development. And then after graduating, he continued his mission by speaking inmates a correction facilities and becoming the program coordinator of the Wayne County youth, advocate, Programs Inc.. Most recently offered his list of accomplishments and with release his book live your dash is covering the eight of freedom. Please welcome to show Jesse crews. Thank you. Thank you for having me on the show. It is an honor and privilege to be here. Thank you so much time. No. It's great to have someone like yourself on the show I I want to congratulate join the book. That's a pretty big deal. Your book titled Live, Your Dash, what was the inspiration for that and What does it mean? So for people who don't know determine Dash. Represents if anyone has ever been to a cemetery or graveyard in looked on a tombstone and saw that the the date that that someone was born is usually on the left the data they passed away on the right and that dash in the middle is telling a story and everyone has a story with what they do with the time they'd been given Daf represents what you do or the quality and quantity of life that you've been given. So when I say live your Dash. Your Dash what is basically saying that lived the life That you've been designing call to live because we all have a purpose we have calling off. Michigan, and we don't know wonder expiration date is going to happen So before we get to the end of our time on earth that we need to do our best to help as many people as possible just see where did where did the passion for helping the at risk teens come from I? Think it comes from growing up as a kid who struggled in school tremendously and not feeling. I had that guy bins from a strong support of peers to guide me in mentoring me. And not having the support of other adults that I thought would have been there. I realized that I was just kinda coasting to life like I didn't really have a passion didn't have a mission. I wasn't driven by Nelson I just take life as it came to be there there was no burning desires ben be, and as I got older, you know having a family and and doing the things that I've been able to do like I realized to get to anywhere worth getting to win life you're going to need our team a Dream Team of supporters a great support network strong faith you're going to need family you're going to need friends in working with the youth I. Just WanNa be there to help them because you know that's something that I. So what are the types of things that you do to to really help them move forward? It's really just being there for them. I know that sounds simple but that's really the truth is that. You have people struggling to life in need support. It's just knowing that. They have someone who's going to be there for them. Regardless of what they do, it's to have that kind of unconditional love is I have your back I'm not always agree with everything that you do we may have opposing viewpoints, but that doesn't mean I love you any less I'm not gonNa be here for you. So it's just building that relationship building that trust with love and respect on a on a regular basis to be consistently there matter what consistently holding that space for them for whatever they need. At that particular time, I'm sorry it sounds like they're probably been a few times in your life where you felt like you've reached your breaking point I mean obviously you've you've been deployed in a war zone which one stands out the most and it doesn't have to be the military one but which one stands out the most the one that stands the most is what inspired me to write the book to begin with so three years ago, my wife and I? We had a child she was born premature. Struggled everyday, just breed. So she was on a ventilator in a machine help agreed every single breath. was on a machine in watching her struggle in fights to survive. I watched her flatland multiple times in Washer back to life. And then after forty, two days of of her fighting's she passed away. From that moment I was I, mean obviously I'm crushed and I still lamb I still have rough days. I still have days where it hurts deeply and I have huge struggles because of what I experienced with her hospital room. But I didn't use that as an excuse for to ruin my life. I, I want to carry on her life and her legacy in her life was inspiration. She's been able to touch people all over this country in in other countries around the world. So I just WanNa make her proud in carry on her legacy in when my motivation comes from my biggest hardship been my biggest motivator. So you mentioned that she was the inspiration for the book. I'm assuming before the book started or the idea of the book happened. There are some things that you were doing that maybe lent itself to the book that helped you get through those tough times and. With her passing just having going to go into being in the military and had that feeling of you know I'm not good enough I'm not worthy enough and then going to be. Moving back home up to New York I was living down in Texas at the time being in. Iraq. All those things they're all playing a role scoring a couch, all these little things that I did. Were all preparing for that moment. They were because I had faced tremendous adversity at a young age and I could let it destroy me in ruling entire future. But I let it instead build upon something that was called the do, and that's the rich people through speaking in writing and you know I have had a hungry appetite for reading on For years prior to her passing in reading is Kinda. What helped me out during tough times in stressful times opening up a book and reading something encouraging is always helped me get through the tough times. So I I would say reading has been a tremendous influence in my life. I. WanNa find out which books. Are have been like the biggest influence for you because you're you're an avid reader so which which are the Religious pick three because I know you probably have a big list. Letter. That that like the, you think about right off top of your head that these three changed the way that I look at everything. First and foremost the Bible second would be purpose driven like in third would be book called the big leap those three books that I've been able to Which I built my life upon and my family upon is is to is love in and care for others in practical wisdom to help those in need all those books point to the direction of of of love and giving generosity, and that's what's helped me get through everything. You mention growing up with adversity one. What do you think is the Biggest thing setback that happened then that really set you up for success that you're you're at today. Not doing well in school. Was it. What is not doing? Well, mean. So for me for for for me that. I was basically not gonNA pass now I was failing classes I was struggling my way through school. I was diagnosed with a learning disability which I still have that ain't going to last I'm GonNa have that price forever. You know I mean I have A. Tough time processing words. comprehension. Those are things that I struggle with. Tremendously I'm having one of my teachers tell my my parents that college is something that will. Not. Be For me. That's not a part of my future. In challenges but I decided I'm not GonNa let other people dictate where I'm GonNa go my path for my future in maybe I'm not the most intelligent kid in the class and yes, I do have a learning disability but I'm not going to let those labels have been placed on me limit my capacity to continue to grow you wrote a book. which would just like it. That's coming head on with with that disability. What are the eight fs that we mentioned earlier in in? How did you decide on just eight? Okay. So the first one is focus I believe everything that every human being does at any given moment starts with what they're focusing on, which is related to what you think about all your the decision you will ever make in your entire life will be based on your greatest thought. So you cannot separate to the worst decision you will make is usually rooted in the worst thought of your life. So your your actions will never be greater than your thoughts. So start in the mind, what we think about is what will become. That's what we do I. Shift over two concepts of fitness and how I believe. That the imports of working out how how important it is to exercise because if anyone has a dream goal emission going to need your physical body to make it happen. So we need to be physically active and I go a little deeper in the book. It's not just fitness of the body. It is all fitness of the mind like I referenced earlier, He needs to challenge your body physically, but also your mind mentally you know whether that's reading books whether that's taking classes getting a degree going to conferences, workshops, and seminars. So fitness of the mind and the body working together will help person become more healthy. And then I shipped over after that, I make references to finance you know. Where money goes our heart is going to file. So what we love, we will put our money into. So if we're putting money into things that can be destructive to our future than what we're saying is that we don't love our future. So we need to be very careful with what we do with our financial resources because they are going to influence the direction in path that we take in line. Is the one that is the most underrated in the entire book because adults almost never do this and they should in children always do it, and that is the importance of fun. I truly believe that we must all have fun because when you're having fun life is more enjoyable life is more enjoyable. You're able to reach your potential. There's people who have great success in life have done many great things and they can still be very miserable and unhappy life into me. If you have all that success in your miserable, that's not true success. So we've got four one or the other for the importance of friendship. You know I truly believe that we become the people we hang. With. So we need to be careful who we allow into our circle into our life because whether they're doing mazing things in this world or they're destroying this world, we spend time with these people they will influence do one of those thing no matter who you're spending time with your influencing decision how we talk how we behave how we act all those things. So need to be intangible selecting people that can take us from one place in our life in elevators and influence to another place of. Striving forward towards progress tipped over to the importance of family, which is one gets complicated. Especially, if you come from a family of origin which we all do family problems and certain situations that may be uncomfortable were abusive or neglectful. One, we're coming from our family of origin. We need to make the decision we grow up what parts of the family of origin we're going to leave behind what parts of the family origin are. We GonNA bring with us so we need to be very intangible leaving the toxic things we experienced from our childhoods leave behind not to take you for forget about and pretended never happened. We need to be intentional what we what we bring into our our new family that we create ourselves. Because of Family Can sometimes have many challenges with it. We need to focus on the importance of forgiveness learning to forgive those family members or those friends or those people who have heard us because one, we do not forgive who cannot move forward. In once once you get stuck in the past, you can't even think about the present moment you can't even plan for the future because you're so stuck on something that happened a month ago a year ago ten twenty years ago in, we wanna live that dash effectively. We. GotTa we gotTA. Move forward in life in all the way to move forward is to go backward briefly not to live there but the visit briefly to address the pain and hurt that we suffered or the the pain in her we may be inflicted on somebody else and ask somebody else, and then the final act, which is the basis of the whole book is faith. Is To know that we not always GonNa have all the answers. You know I mean that's part of life would. Have that faith to keep pushing forward to keep striving for greatness and we never let that faith limit us. You know some people have space in in small things innate they have small face, but they don't have. They don't have big dreams enough to think that they can accomplish them be because their faith is too small and challenge people to step off into fate to know that there is a great plant, all of our lives, a great gift, great talent, and we need to be bold enough to step into it because there are people all over this world who are depending on us. To share gifts with them. Those are eight really really good items. How did you narrow it down to those eight? Not Ten or five? How did it end up being a? Originally actually, it's funny. It was nine to begin with and then I was like you know what I think people are GonNa get sick and me after eight. So I cut it down camera. I got rid of one and what I noticed is because I wrote this right after my daughter passed away in. So while I was writing it, I didn't know I was reading a book I. Just knew I needed to write. I just needed to get my feelings and once I started writing I started to see that all these ideas all started with APP said, okay let me stick with that. And then when I wrote through it, I said man these eight areas of my life. Are GonNa to be either cripple my future or get me through this tough situation that I'm in I've been blessed in fortune enough to to have support knows areas of my life and by focusing on those eight years, I was able to you know begin the healing process no, those eight areas I don't think no matter what you believe in or your experiences in life all eight of those areas will influence our our decisions in some way and definitely to the worst time of my entire life those eight areas were a building block to my future to move forward. When you feel overwhelmed or lost your focus, which is the first half which. Of, the Eight APPs do you leverage to get that I back in place into to eliminate that overwhelmed ron struggling in any area of life having a rough day I have to ask yourself what? Is Out of priority because all the APPS are important, but once the priority can be mixed up or one can be obsessed about or another one is being neglected. then. All of a sudden our relationships have a lot more problems than we facing a lot more adversity stress becomes a part of who we are because one of these APPs is either being too much too much attention is being given to warn and not enough attention is being given to the others. So I've noticed when I'm having these interpersonal conflicts or challenges, whatever the case may be is that at least one or two could be a whole bunch of them are not in the rifle order priority in my life. So That's interesting that you're talking about just auditing your s right you just. figure out which ones are out of balance which ones route a WAG would not need to focus on which ones you step back from set audit is is a really really big piece, the a great framework I really enjoyed enjoyed Voronin through that on in the book and with that framework, is there a specific believe behavior habit that you go to that has changed your life dramatically in the last couple years. Most. Important things that I do and I and I try to do this every single day waking up early to have space in times of think in peace I think every human being should do what if you can't wake a burly then you gotta find some times throughout your day whether it's five minutes, ten minutes, thirty minutes or an hour to yourself with nobody around because I truly believe one of the biggest problems all people have is that they can't spend time with themselves. Truly by themselves without a phone. Route A computer without of television without another person. and. You can't really get to truly know who you are because you're so focused on all the other distractions in responsibilities and tasks of the day but when you take time each day. To learn more about you. What's most important to you? Then you then you're able to tackle that day without feeling sluggish in just being beat down because. You are not going to get burned out because you know what's most important. Why do you think it's still hard for most people to truly be alone. With their thoughts. We office instinctively want more free time until we actually get that free time. because. Now, what that free time has revealed is that there's all these little issues or challenges or things that have gone on unaddressed for weeks months days in years. Now that you have this time to think about it. Now, you have to address. It can be scary. So I think the reason why people don't take the timeout alone is because if they jam packed or schedules with activities and just doing things in maybe pointing out the flaws of other people that never actually have to address what's going on with in there and it's interesting you bring that up because I just heard the other day someone used the defrays. Human doing versus human being. And there's literally Kind of lays out to to what you. You're talking about is we focus so much on doing versus being and. That's a scary to. To go back to something like that sometimes. In animal I striving for success at there's nothing wrong with that. That's a great thing. We should have goals. We should chase after them and we develop our skills and our towns, our guest but if you put your hundred percent your identity in what you do. You don't even know who you are. Because you're thinking what you do who you are the same thing and they're not they're two completely different things. thinking. About that. How do you? How do you help? I mean, you have children. As well, still What are you? What are you doing to help them? Be. Human beings versus human doings. That's something that I have to reflect on a regular basis because you know they see. Dan Writing Books and writing movie scripts and I'm trying to do these things and I'm trying to accomplish all these things and then after realize you know. Although it's a good example, I'm studying for them to chase after dream the goal am I doing it to the detriment of being present. Because we can be so future focused. We can appreciate the present moment. In what I do to prepare them for that is you know obviously I'm going to push them to develop their skills in their talents absolutely but also gonNA take the time out. To do nothing. And I know that sounds crazy to say in the world that we live in. But sometimes we need to stop kind of like what you said human being. We don't always have to be doing something. We don't always have to go to this place and take care of you can just be still inside I try to model that you know especially morning routines and they get up, they see me. I'm not really doing much in. So I talked with him about the importance of carving out time. It's thirty seconds. Most people can't car about thirty seconds a solitude with nothing going on it's. Exactly. So I try to teach my kids the importance of being still. In just learning how to say no is another thing we don't have to say, yes we always want to say yes because WanNa feel included we WANNA. Feel appreciate. We WanNa feel needed. And we become dependent on being needed so much that we don't even say yes to ourselves because to be thing. Yes everybody else. And just think sometimes, we got to say no and that's okay. Lots of great little nuggets in there. What I want to do is is give the three most important tactic you believe well. Loud them to open their mind expand themselves. What what would those three things be for you? So for me, the first thing would be to do something that you love to do, but you have to ask you. So first things first, what do I love to do? That's the first question secondly to ask what am I good at because you can love something doesn't mean you're you're really good at it. You know I love playing certain sports. I'm not going to the NBA it's just not happening. I'm not that good I gotta be self aware enough to know that that's just not in my my future. That's Okay I love playing the game I'm not good enough to play professionally. So you I must ask what you love what are you good at and then after that, you're GONNA ask yourself can make a living at it. You know. So you gotta obviously you know you gotTa have the financial resources to live and survive. So I think it's having that self assessment of accidental Naga said, what do I love doing? What am I good at Cana make a living in in last that last question is does the world need it now? How how many people can help with this? Who Can I serve? Why gift my talent you know what I mean so I think starting with knowing what you're good at. What you're not good at. A lot of people spend their time doing things are not good at because. A MOM or dad or Somebody life influence them to go down a certain passed. So we kinda live through them to follow their path in life. Because we want to be like them instead of being like us. So for me on the face is live that on a daily basis, whatever the case may be, whatever that spiritual belief may be is to live to the best year ability we should be striving to love and care for one another. So for me that that's that's so important. knowing what you were created for who you created by in what you're created to do. And then lastly to continue to always be a lifelong learner. No matter how much you learn. You still no less than one percent of everything. There is no on planters. That's where everybody the smartest human being on earth to one who doesn't know much at all they all still no less than one percent of everything that there is to know in the world. So. That motivates me in hope that it would motivate somebody else to know that no matter if you've reached the pinnacle of success and reach millions of people that they're still always room for improvement Zoe still room to grow in that, we should always be looking forward to how can we get better because when we better everybody around US gets better marriage marriages get better children get better our career gets better. Our business gets better. Our audience gets bigger because we are getting better. So I just think it's important. We should strive to to do more not to the point of where it's all about doing doing doing. You, know still have the balance of being able to relax and take a day off because I believe that's support to. What to do it effectively and find the balance of taking time off. But one you're down, you're taking your time off for back at it working hard on we should be working harder on ourselves anything else. Before we wrap, where can people find out more about you get your Book Regina you where the best places to do those things. So people can contact me on facebook Jesse crews on my business page Jesse Cruise. They can contact me on instagram author, Jesse crews, OFF WANNA email me author Jesse crews at gmail.com. It real quick. I just wanted to throw in there. To your listeners that next week which would be I. Think July twenty ninth next Wednesday. Believe that's what it is. I'm starting a thirty day. Basically what that means is for people who are visiting my facebook page. I'm going to present an opportunity for everyone to enter into a contest entering into this contest is was gonNA consist giving away a free plane ticket in the United States. So for people who are looking to travel here sometime between now and next thing next April when I got the expiration for so goes into twenty twenty, one someone who's looking to get on a plane and go travel and get away from. 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Burn Da Mk- Episode 7

Mango Kush Podcast

1:53:07 hr | 4 months ago

Burn Da Mk- Episode 7

"There's a some city presidential deals. Let me say with accuracy. Shot recording waiting on this. This this scientist Together is friday feeling good. It's been a long week. Adding next week is holidays. Are you start to hit this holiday season christmas new years. Will you think before. What are you thankful for. Scientists arrive provide. Let's go ahead and get on winter time to be alive. Straightness straight copy of linked to bosch says. Go ahead and share-out this story or by the people to jump on jump on. We have outside of that though. I finally just sat down louis. Jess valley sat down like mab move around all day man. That's one thing i'm mother. Eight is fucking moving man like moon is that is the damn hits her that long time to pits lewis say me initiate gabbage had gabby mad special. I mean when you gotta heavy shit and it's really just you larisa that more moving in general jeff a fucking headache because you know you gotta fuck it all got settled in saying you ain't got settling your place for who knows how long you got seventy plus with who knows how long it by the time you get you know. Say movie to get you know. Especially like mov- moving at stupid. I i mean on moore. Stay nice apartment all but is going from house to apartment apartment to hot from a house. A man as different as different by moving in general is the pittsburgh. I fucking hate moving. If i don't have to. I'm not moving unless it's time to upgrade is death exactly what sometimes you you know you down by so you. You've what i'm saying. It was the last group that Too crazy enough. I was in his one stereo Thing but what he got so pissed off that he ashes left middle of the damn live. You know what i'm saying. He was right now man. He literally just let up and left. So here's you're right. He was talking about To the to the world he was talking about I guess who came all the stuff and you know that bless you kind of like stand up and it's not looking for a handout and now an hour again over the points i will get points. They're saying how buddy was. I really discredited. You know the fact that as you know melanie. Eight people blacks that you don't have a disadvantage like i get the fact that you can't always use the racism shit as a as a crutch but it's like damn i'd say that's how you got to you know you gotta kinda like acknowledged the The handicapped kinda already at home. You know that. I be redmi like maybe some really heated argument at bro. Yeah they'd be gone crazy on damn apps you know like i didn't seem to argue. Thank you our listener. We have our listener and Again for those listening tune in go ahead. Please share out the link Jump onto say burn in case session which are whole scientists. Niane kon diesel of the cast. Live here all stereo app. We are doing burned in k. Friday night lies about to give to it. We out to get to get to know one thing that we're talking about. Is the open soapbox better yet. They their own a horse burger tonight. We fry them up tonight. Who was a free staff friday. Friday bam freestyle. Fridays always say we check out how you live it. You know what i'm saying given one. Oh six style. You know what i'm saying. Call me gin. You know around six or anytime you wanted to say. Talk about something I mean we were here. were open. Were just john to nine. You know howard you living you know. What do you feel is going on in your life. That might be significant my insignificant. A talk about it. You know we can try any point man. Today's friday dr phil him down. Good as hell right now you know grant. We got one more week left in this year. We got through twenty twenty twenty twenty. There's gonna go down the books dog right that we're gonna be talking about this somewhere down the line. You remember that shit like not. Only you know is is a crazy year. A lot of people lost their lives this year. We lost some legends this year. It's been crazy but other than that man. Life is good as friday. It's one week before the holidays begin. And i think one of one of my favorite One of my favorite holidays is starting to become new years. I don't know what it is now. I mean we all understand the state of new year. New star is actually a time as i've gotten older. It's time that you know. Actually you know. Get to reflect on what i did for the year my goes in to get to the next tier man and new year's is quickly becoming one of my favorite holidays and not only that man. I like to bring it in with my people's the last time you went to a good new year's party two thousand two thousand and nineteen twenty twenty one twenty. One was whatever. I'm bringing the new year but yeah he's this is a different type of you our listeners. Anytime you wanted to china right now. We're talking about how you live in house. You live in. Check out how you live right. Now we're talking about twenty twenty and icon diesel. Said it's been. It's been a roller tough year. You know even for myself a personal side. just say losing loved ones and then I can hold shutdown presidential election. Everything going from physical to virtual. You know there's been a lot of on. Let me tell you real quick. So you know for ya ya i do. I work in the school system. And i you know. I do work within within the ara within a charter is a charter school network. And today was the first day that i went back into building today. And was there for an extended period of time. I got there at about seven thirty. And i left a look after three thirty. I got in the car i felt. Just i felt geranium dot the virtue just being used to be home a handle your business and you have to physically go and put your mind somewhere else that when it's been somewhere else for six months we thing just even going from twitter. Twenty twenty one. They have taught me one thing. Is you gotta make your own money. Can't rely on anybody else for your mood. And granite discredit anybody. Who you know work with you. Know education companies organization government because there are certain industries. Where hey you're you're you're to have you're going to have a decent amount of security in certain industries you know when it goes government. I mean even though government can't get shut down and people get That but usually the government you know especially as you kinda like As you kinda like progress in. I think it's a gs like they have different rankings and stuff like that so of course the higher you get your job lowered by now. You know they're gonna take care of you Sanctity with the military. You know there's no shortage of military jobs you know. Of course they're always building up the army and military air force navy however From the the the overarching scheme. You know twenty twenty. You say we haven't been in school since last march and that's coming on a year and like you say i just went back to the school to do to do a fool bed which normally do but i'm out there a couple of hours but that dispatced tuesday when i was working. Oh i gotta get a hundred in. Inhalant is i'm gonna divert killed that won't play besides that You know we got a food bank. And i was there for mike realistically like seven thirty. I leave home six thirty so it was a whole almost eleven twelve hours where i was physically somewhere and i did nothing else but just that task and it was like i was sold damned dog tire by time i left. You know moving boxes and throwing out crates and then it was like damn i. If you every single day. I see why if you'll be tired and mad all day. We like. I see why you messed up. I see why people fucking drink and smoke in pop. Eels really stressful. It's it's is crazy. You sit never use that one of my one of my coworkers Chaplain it today. And i didn't even know she smokes and she drinks. Now you would never know it. Sometimes you just never know people you know. She's not gonna a good one tonight. And i'm dan and even though you know so you know i just see how people how people unwind and it's crazy i don't even just threw me off guard. This notion a lot but at the same time machine go back to the career blades. Woman have four zero about why you just don't know what people are absolutely in and not even that you know like and i. I wanted to say the worse one of the most high stress jobs in into civil service. I mean outside of a police officer or firefighter. You know. of course. you're putting a life on the line is is working education. Its education is honestly in my opinion new military. Right and the reason i say that is Okay for example look at education and prison system right You were there for a task. They tell you that you're there to educate the the newer generation but realistically your condition in them To be robots you know and not only that is I don't know. I'm kinda glad that everything did happen. A day where you know. Education kind of went more virtual Because the kind of freedom of do you know more different things but literally like you said going to work every single day day in day out your thank kids who don't want to do a damn thing and it's sad like i mean that's why like she's a high school you know but you want the same kids realistically. They have problems with iran but like they become with the same match. Who our for doing this offer like doing out. Blahsy blahsy blahsy and you gotta deal with that for one hundred eighty days right. Push somebody who's going to get passed long anyways because no child left behind notre left behind. You know that will rhetoric bullshit. You know it is like you get you. Don't get paid then then outside of that. You know they they give you they give you a pat on the back of the hand clap. When the teachers national debt you can get free chick fillet. I would teachers. Obviously we know pige need to get paid more now. I was reading something today. A lady and i didn't get to read the full article. I kinda she Sick in the hospital from the hospital beds virtually teach our kids so because she's afraid that she doesn't want him to fall behind. I'm why don t you know we'll do that well. I mean but but we're listening to some people rely on the go. Because i mean hail if working a job. This'll dan long. You don't really get like a break this. In my opinion the work in virtual has been much more blessed. I mean granted you're going on but We're blessed because you know you can kind understand the value of your time. You know what i'm saying. And you are senate value of not being confined some worse than what i don't get it wrong some people. It's not the to necessarily say that. Oh i'm so good. Hi mike i can work from home. 'cause are also people working on that you know shit they might have it just as just trust because you know some people Like i said they have kids at usually. They go to school and stuff like that but now that they're home. You got consider take care of them so in my you. Know retrospect is been A little easier on me. But there's other people. I guess my parents I well you know. Hey is trust the kids at a house. You abrahams crazy. I was talking to one of the teachers real difference. Anybody knows i have a screening business. And also she's you hope grant. I need a shirt by a new eight shea unease and on what you wanted to let you want to do. I forgot what she said. Well she actually forgot what she said. She wanted her on her front but it was the central. There was like a simple teacher teacher. Various type thing on the front but on the dash she was putting the She was like but not now. Because i'm on break kids. Wow kids is not as now the wasted their dash but not now because they won't break kids looking for someone to say that. I'm not saying that people do you take a serious or joking. I think everything's a damn joke. Maybe i hear it as a joke. I do like my mom said my does her family members say everybody should do kids now with right now. Anybody i mean if anybody. Who's you a fucking you know. I guess i wanted a survey you know some some liberal prick or whoever fuck some weird mindset you'll be like oh may ha ha you know. It's a joke but you know some people take that offense and i. Oh you shouldn't say that. And it's so unprofessional. You to fuck got david and the ones that saying. They won't be really having problems. But you i think honestly in education and i eat that horsburgh. You know a couple of minutes Is it twenty. Twenty has been better a little bit easier on me with education. 'cause you're not pulling up you know you. You're not gonna be stressful Gin up fighting traffic. And i'll say this maybe for anybody. You know listen again. Thank you for listening. But i'm i'm gonna show everybody out but let's just say this you know your job you wake up every single day you gotta wake up anywhere between five to five thirty just to get up right. You gotta be a work by seven o'clock on the dot my time you get there before you meet at the door you have to say. Good morning to to the students who usually one hundred percent hang on one hundred usually ninety five percent of the time. Don't book and feel like being there you know you don't read off line being there and then you get more into kids look at you cut. The damn is smack. Lives and walk off you know. And then there's some people who take a physician my listen th the negro by a bad morning are bad. I don't really has asked war. Whatever what's up you know. I wanna say what's up so any who you deal with that then my time you get in the class finish in there. You know government reduced price lunch you know. Bsa defeat him Half really get a you know even at worst add because you're teaching them how to teach them how to read or do math. Eight eight o'clock in the goddamn the morning half learning how to fuck shit damn for no llano man. When i was a man. I never tried to take bed. Engines jansa word man. I don't like people seem that light light always taking on some positive shit cracks jokes which you know. I've there's been like maybe a head like a couple of times. I went in my energy. Just want right on. There was a yo. What's going on with you. Dana and this is really written like. And that's because when you know. When i'm speaking you know we talked chopping darby laughing man when i'm on atman fucked. But we're not that busy with the hair dye. Yeah mandates amount my space. My my my my office. When i need. We've got look what you know. What st but again. You had an opportunity to listen. You had a bad day right and yet lash it going. You got to go to work and then kids already like a fool you know. Then you can't go anywhere. it's i feel for teachers. I really do. I mean how was in jail time but you know what a teacher now but the fact that you know you're already stressed out the kid on them. You get graded on the sheet. Became not learn. You get graded on kids a -bility to perform on a systematic test of their robot skills. You know then on top of that. You know you're gonna get paid shit deal with that. So this is like this year stressful. And then you know you gotta worry about evaluation evaluation that however the report is that if you work at Usually the tattoo want schools or lower end schools. Most of the time. Data's want people won't bodies in there. I'm hate to say it is one bodies you know and by time teachers in a double edged sword because you have a of teachers in trying to change the world and you got a lot to change and i fuck it on. Just come here to get a paycheck. He's a so you gotta fight against that education. All of their time. He got kids. Who don't really give day about learning. You got teachers that this. I'm going to do bullshit copy and paid so put two and two together man. Listen shit show kids on the school. If i during the day and what they the fight somebody while as long as the thing to overrule metalhead. Now i mean that the sun wise thing i'd do it and not you know do elementary school kids. You know Union had kids are trying to find the Teachers how to fight kids. They say have him trying to fight. Kids live we had to go. Call the cops on the thing about this martin. Luther call fucking police on a parent trying to fight a elementary school kid. Because they see their kit was apparently being a bully. You know all the type of stuff and it's not like no would you know it's like on some. He say she say type stuff. You talked my and that's why you've got bad j. You know stuff like that so a lot. Try to strike them kids. They strike matters man. Apparently the story the story. Apparently the The kid who was Get a bully now. The mom got onto mom in now. The mangano bus and was like. Where's that little bitch and moan fucking nigga. You better not touch my daughter get out. Beat your ass for all. These mother fuckers literally. You're you're telling a fourth grade that you have to be at least on average okay. Let's say twenty five so you're talking five years old but you're telling down what nine year old kid the best way to do. That is hey. Listen to me talk to you. I understand you're having a few issues. You know what my child here however you know. This behavior is not gonna be tolerated. What do we need to do to alleviate denise speak to your parents they sat there and you don were. But i also think man. That's the conversation you need to speak with japan. I what i'm saying. But i will never i. I would think even look at on the flip side of my son was bullying your child and you can't watch out with with me. Not no on then you pull up on then that's gonna put me in a hostile spotlight. You'll see you know what i'm saying. Yea i ne- i don't think you ever as a i'll i would never go at somebody else's kid without their being present a conversation. Now i get that. But i will say if they were just not had that same thought process downhill corporate thing to do. If you you know you see or listen to say you know Your kids got beat up by one kid and you know hey you know like hey what happened. You know does down again. You're not you're not going to kill you explain you know. Apparently according to the demographics at i t they they don't believe in them. They who they may have. I didn't have. We had to call it again. I don't know how many times we had to call. the cops. Were clearly had to do all this stuff where we had to go to the apartment complex over because the kids were fighting and the moms had set it up asset. Hiding pops back. Oh no you get in there and fight them on the puckers like you're like me i get it. I get that rhetoric. You don't do that publicly you don't do you. Don't do it publicly you know. That's probably that's probably how they came up. Man time yeah. I just seem parents trying to fight students. Hair china pipe parents A student spit on a teacher. One student teacher out with a calculator. A female student beat up a male teacher. When i mean when say honestly and that's why i had to leave the school system at the is too much. See their prison. She look listen. That's prison should be good guy down. You know i'm getting a peanuts and you know you can't do. Abc's and one two threes. And you know you're about to graduate from high school and you raise up on me. Because i tell you do lizard whole nuts that screw that but you know what the thing about is. that's that's just a. I think i have a different mindset because i see stuff i see on both sides of the Book now both sides of the page where is like you. You need that restorative justice piece in the sense of you know understanding kissing understand how to actually be educated and but you also need that firm You know system set in place where there's going to be you know of course Consequences at abcd is done. You know like for example and again. Thank you my listeners. For to this is scientists nine and con diesel up the mango kush. Podcast here lot on stare at burn ince right now the word has been given by the check out how you live in right now. We're just talking about twenty twenty and right now. We are focusing on education right. It was going to. I'll go see where we talk about. Tell you this is the half of it you know. Like even if not involved in violence just having to take parents You know food to the hotel room and stuff are going to parents house and you have to sit. Which purse near you or you know a Watching the major roshan calling it like well. I'll tell you how hon item being through hundred. I'm talking about. You can't leave your person call. You got a lot the doors some of them neighborhoods. Be so bad i mean is is is. I don't know. I don't know i mean but think about this you know and for my listeners. H-have you're like anything. Feel free to chime in talk about. We're talk or burn the in k. Right now just by light go ahead do us a favor. Go ahead and follow us fall. Scientists nine fall condie's and go ahead and hit a little button for us. You know anything you like to hear you want salary. Clap clap. clap. Clap book clip. Be like i said. Education free education and youth development are tough. I i wasn't youth development for shit starting from weather. Jim nez house so we rely two thousand nine. I mean technically. I'm still in use development as education but actual youth development for about eight nine years and like the amount of you know you you build those relationships with the families and and You get to see exactly where they come from environment like when she's telling us know she had the stay at peres as you know. That's real man. I have some coworkers. Now i used to work. I used to be a director for boys and girls club and metro and Just man by just depicted the way that people are living. It makes me understand why some of these are wave are these days And it translates not only from home but also into the classroom. When we're sitting down with these kids will actually You know diving into their homework or practice stuff. And i may be having this interest as the possibility when i'm a half is i really lack the knowledge to understand grasp the concept go video games. You know a other things. So you know the challenge thing. I had ever education director for boys and girls club with trying to figure out a way to incorporate playing video games into education and coming up with instant of systems and a lot of things that we tried. And even you know this is everybody who's roads train north steam You know planning stuff around that and have a built in context. I wish we had like a wind. Pitchers we added a contest of the strongest bridge. And we really learned about british stocks in the types of bridges suspension in art raging. So they had to bill though isn't competition amongst themselves and it's just like they were having fun but not even recognize. I you know we actually learning to we gotta learn. You know to support beans. You gotta do your research. You have a game plan so there's always ways that you can transform you. Know a lot of the trending things that kids do into something. That's impactful that they'll be able to grasp the concept. That's i mean. We just want them to grasp the concept. And we're not allowed to gain on plus well but i just i'm like if you grasp the concept you understand it if either do it without me. I'm good but the thing about it is okay. So is this this time. I got education. Maybe just how we cases okay think about it. Now how education transport from when we were like in Elementary school middle school School you know even college with is now you know kazmi going education or when i started teaching it was again. I want to kind of help the kids out and it was more like i guess i wanted to be more mentor than a teacher. Because i didn't really care to do all the extra paperwork and stuff so i was like that I was a dangerous minds. Teacher like like it was like same time Much like dangerous minds. While i was like impact with the kids like wearing leather jackets and shit like that but i was also koga policy like that that once. He's who was like like a rare by Went to clash for everything. I like really talked them stuff about like that. No one ever told of course tied into signs and stuff but thousand issue is different because we didn't come up like that it was. They put this on the board little dumb ass. Projector copies notes. You gotta learn this ship. you know. Cram cram test on as you do. Good hey go to cars. You do bad new. Get a job that when we learn down now but even a rules were different. Like i guess they. Maybe this issue not saying that. I'm looking to throw the baby out with the bathwater but sometimes we give somebody. Sometimes we give too many damn chances. You know even with some of these families and yeah. I know i kind of says you know you're saying this. Yeah i think because some people learn how to take advantage of this system so it'd be relying on the system so even with education that has been interesting to me. Br we ultimately present kids. Getting in trouble like i understand. You have trouble kids and at yeah mental health. We're gonna later on night two but besides on that. Yeah but the thing about it. Is you keep getting in trouble over and over. You clearly say god damn school or clash you want to be in the street. You wanna do this okay. We'll do it meal those type kids. Now you gotta you gotta work within them. Progress wise are you're never going to get the host license whole really. Break that thing down and that takes time years. Trust why you know. We're talking about adult adult student relationships and really understanding understanding them. So once you know situations and attrition. They feel that they can talk to you. Takes time broke. When i get that totally. You know what i'm saying. I i understand it. But i'm just saying from like the system standpoint where more an might dot com like a you know very prison light but maybe need a bit like additional schools where they can offer these services the kids who are more at risk youth because and general population. We're realistic is like listening to prison. Hey say you you know. You have pugh ice solitary confinement and you've got some maniac walking around people just got petty drug crime so like that. So they're gonna cause a day of work is in the same thing is like it's in education got some kids knock on the mass murders or anything but you got some kids in who just to disrupt the system so you cannot put him in general population of kids anyway. I kids always come school. Gin fights you know you breaking into in the school stealing stuff all types of and you get you know two days. Iss were listen if you so much is cut using a consequence so harder classical is also put a further into fucking. I'm going all in. I'm already gonna get in trouble. But you know. But i mean the sitting there. Hey man come on. Now everything's gonna be okay like it's a time of balance for that. You know what i'm saying. I think that your day to doesn't does enough that that's prime that that's a horsburgh. I got with the life. They try to force that shit down. Where it's like you know. And i and i'll say this specifically mind. This is research. I did this research. Zan by my So when it comes to even african american boys Diagnosis disrupted behavior disorders. And i've worked wits by them. You cannot go in there Half step light the oni way in and this may sound like systematically crazy they in their minds already they manage damn house and if you feel like you're entitled to them how you behavior shows that yeah my mom's going to pull me out or i got somebody pull me out and so of course all the. Hey man come on out thinking. No man do thought that you know they. That's how they treat you. Go on it you have gone like alpha date. But that's it if you really really really cared about this kid. You're going to die a little bit deeper on saying that. That's also what their hat like. The first thing berries had been broken down so in the way. These boys are they any type of weakness. They're going to never respects. You literally had the break as down. And then i can one hundred percent every single one even more mental health disorders. If everyone i've seen going there with that old come on the list. Tim was going on. They will shut down because they feel they can take advantage but they feel that. Hey i can't challenge this guy at is looking stronger than me. And i'm messing in a physical aspect but just on this. Is this the aspiration down thinking that relations already started. And then you can dive deeper like what's going on. Hey man in the end they re they re looking for their father figure and believe news but despite all the negative. I did love the kids but it was too much of a headache that it wasn't. They will work but the job wasn't worth it to me crazy. She stadium will be the key. If you don't don't fucking worse like thinking about don adults and number grandkids. I didn't say it doesn't have grown kids name mix tournament. That's another horse bird as a parent. I'm not an educator base parent. I definitely value my son's teachers no matter. You know wesley that we live now in cobb county. Where of course the school system both of these you know real good but of course they still have their issues but i wanna parents be understanding and be open to teachers on here. They taught talk. And i was telling my son. I don't put it past them. Because i was his age once so i understand you know. There's some teachers that cross the line by my son you don't deal with it. Let me handle the dote ever this belt. Because he wasn't raised like that. And of course i'm winner parents. You know he'd get online. You got my permission to check him. You know what. I'm saying. Because if i'm not there i want an adult is like hey you know your mama won't play that. Well yeah i mean in your your parents. I appreciate you know because some can't get the title doesn't have to talk to your way. What no fuck that. The nicholas five years old and kissing the bed and you tell the mag the fuck out here with their push. It like seriously like some parents who are fucking psychotic thinking that their kid just talk or do they want do any schools and they have and those are. Those are the ones i'm talking about. You know what. I'm saying though those are was you know there are parents who are like. Hey i tried to do. I need to be supported. You got some kids. You got some parents. Who doesn't have their kids. But that's a whole nother. Horsburgh herreid there to use an expert a nerve which isn't exchange. Look away for wait for it. How about gunshots. On the way inside the school or gus out leaving the school. I just y'all when i tell ya i got completely douse. After my six years. I couldn't i couldn't do his pooping about it before you. I'm just going to say nanotech suspension for going to to win. The teeth row is that you can go ahead of its exit. Special motherfucker does between like wh- a bruiser said you gotta go to work in a place that your muscles what you're supposed to be educating the better the future you'd have them blessed like columbine louis changed the whole dynamic. I mean of course. I mean you were shooting for him but it was like i guess it. Our generation the whole trenchcoat mafia thing. And they're mad listening dot com by john with sears. And i bet that damn we were really shoot. Nascar was i. I shouldn't have to worry about going to my job. And we're getting shot you know by student or by anybody you know parent or some crazy persons like look down. That's crazy next time sandy hook. This allows no. We went to college soon. I was saying yeah. It's like really a hard job. It's a really really hard jobs is hard you know as hard you know. Any educator say my statement early education was the new military but There's going do this right now. Thank you all for listening right now. It is scientists nine and kind diesel bat mango because podcast roberta austere. You're at the word has been given so we'd better check out how your little right right now. We're just talking about twenty twenty and we're kinda just going deeper into this whole educational aspect You know education. You'll feel anything you want to say about it. Just feel do you feel out on what the hell talking about. And i also feel like to going back to as far as like the area with your children attend you know school and so forth. I do feel light and urban areas. Well you know i guess. More low income area schools. The issue is parents. Don't be involved enough. They don't carry enough and then now like in areas like where i'm at now. Allow the teacher saying the issue they have pairs are too involved in eighth to entitled and they feel like they can do the teacher job but you know. Obviously they're not teachers but they to tell the teachers. What do you need to do it this way. That way. So i just be ally. In the low income areas the parents are not as involved versus in the areas. Where you know. I guess more fluent the parents i want to have too much controls days too much involved but yeah yeah hong dot the you know the the the kids that were the parents think their kids on ever doing anything wrong and they sit at the house with been right now and they did not. They seem a little hockey doing class. Good and then they quit go. Hey i want. I want then you bet i can't i can't do it so you're gonna you know put you put that on somebody. Who's teaching your child and you give them respect as a crazy came in turn out but i get why he ran hockey man. Joseph was named. Hey jake a day kuan stuff like that a little bit. What crazy names on win. This chain mandate yeah. I mean it's interesting because the dynamics of the schools depending on where you work are completely different. you know when i worked in a predominantly white school. You had to worry about getting sued or somebody knows. Somebody didn't know somebody that could cost you job like it was just really different And then you have very overly involved parents to the point where they're volunteer to school. You know show up at the teacher's classroom kinda intimidate them things like that. So it's a completely different you maybe. This group is way so yeah black schools and know like we talked about last time for bradley white schools at different. Listen of todd hawaii schools. You go around like or excuse me predominantly better. Well off middle class goals right to be politically correct. You know like you said you work there. You gotta worry about like people going around drink a starbucks coffee you like a iphones like. Hey you can't talk is abc quiz on in Now down louis to now. I don't know yet but it's more like hey man you know you told is my dad like totally sue johnny williams still in the booster known as like you know i went to I went to a private school for two years crazy for seventh eighth grade. I went to a private school. Bouquet is behavior. I was out of control bro. Light six year got you know they. They told me at the end of the year. They was i bro. It's like three weeks left. Don't come back like chai will. Ammo is a really helped me because we focus on some other stuff. I mean granted. I wear uniform and stuff. But i'll try the i play baseball. I play basketball. I play soccer tennis while i was trying installed. Don i really opened my mind But you know it is also you know with that being a predominantly who boorda's flu type stuff man. They had the issues to man. You know you know you know. Employees in sleeping with other employees money being stolen teachers doing drugs in the parking lot today. I think teachers have passed on to do drugs because the which do. But that's why at the house. You know what i'm saying is what you do. But that's why they're on drugs but art. What do you think about montessori schooling and home in general and montessori homeschooling because apparently. That's that's a whole different thing to what do you think about that. Is that case mic monitoring. Okay so he'll with the mysore you know Just the model that being small and like a just like the style of teaching how to do it. And i think if i were to create independent type learning is really like supportive where i'll think montessori schools are better for like gift attack kids crazy but i think to nothing nestle you've got to a different high q. To splurge type stuff we but again i feel this way and you know maybe me being a product of public education. I don't really care. You know even put my kids through education or what have children the put an end the public schools because again you know just just public schools in general just all the stuff that you deal with and exposure your kids are getting you know of course you as a parent you have to be the the the the gatekeeper of what kids see how ever though i want my kids exposed to some of this shit that you know going on now do with social media like borough. We've never had any problems growing up like we're fireable the like sour blue light up to eat horsburgh go to g man the other day huge trying to tell us that social media and have nothing to do with the influence of anything you crazy. Social media as a monkey rich in the gate is never going to change bro. Changed the aira like you said. We didn't have advocated. Imagine if we had a social media coming up in college high school. Bronco ramona fights. I've seen non of you know. People getting caught having sex in the bathroom high school. Just i'm just thinking about situations of what what people found alive. Conflicts classrooms between teachers and students countering came. It is 'cause because there was shit their mother partial book stuff like that like the job that dan day plenty of teachers would have been eating dan cans being were going going back to the Question i personally think that kids need some type of structure. I know every kid learns differently To give him space but i mean it really depends on that Right i know we. We come across lot of gifted kids within you know our schools stuffing and they kind of floated on floating lose it though to the home depot. That floats on rhythm and You know the good the crazy thing about are you know where we were is that they have small classroom sizes so To teachers in the classroom and they're split into eight one eight other So they do get a classroom type environment but also get more a better ratio of on. Tv to student when it comes to individualize learning But not the country that goes back to intimate learn like a home school. You had that. You know. But i i don't know i mean like his not homeschooling yet your child half the develops and and i'm talking about the time that we live in now You know in the air and you can't have to have some type of social life or or develop some type of symptoms socially You know at least home you know. Homeschooling is trying to carmelite. What's going on right now with virtual learning if that make sense or you're seeing what year illinois and speaking primarily from us. He's lacking you know. Hey i miss going to go. Eat lunch with my friends. I miss sharing you know fund memories with my friends. But he's also you know still in the classroom still getting education So i mean that's the only solidarity with the home school the man they have to get exposed something nick. I wish i was on school in. Because i was extrovert. So i was a. I will everybody's maguire road. You know what. I'm saying. So i needed you know played football. I you know. I i did things you know what i'm saying. I was to get to play list. Because i was very very like i wanted to be extroverted. I'm still to this day. A very extrovert introvert. You know what i'm saying. Like i acting lone-wolf it'd be around people with that gun. Lewis lupone ditch at fifty. I'll give off the thank. I would just think about the names. Oh my god how about I had some twins in my school. Their names were The mondello and iran golo and it was felt like lemon jello. An orange yellow. I'm this is like look at ours. Always you know to You know people are gonna people again no prejudice anymore when they see certain things. I think we're talking about when they see a certain name on a resume. Your name be britney britney williams and that might be caucasian or whatever you know any but if you have on air this is shaun nico sunk unequally registering crazy stuff. You know they're gonna slide it right into the recycling man. Messiah grime as hero. An act of this comment that we got five now. I'm running my mouth. Oh and i was gonna say something about that too like this coded thing really felt like it was eye opener especially for a lot of parents appreciate teachers or had little appreciation for teachers or for educators. Because now they're accusing home. They're filling it because at inundate a see. Everybody can't do their job. Like i always appreciate teachers. But you know my son. I'm gonna be honest. I'm not that patients like abbie. Light nick three times five damn big. I don't have no patience. So but the teacher you know. I don't have to look asian. He'll come in the next day. Nba a whiz to it. So it's just like goes but my that will just goes to show you like how dedicate a lot of these seizures are how good they are at their job. You know and how it should be very much appreciate that. Very much underpaid at all his money going to big businesses and stuff is gone to the wrong place. I feel like teachers if anything i feel like they should get a higher stipend special wines. There are working inside the school. My son goes face space. I'm gonna be honest after doing that. Virtual and by the lose my mind and say yeah go got damn. You can't get you know like losing my temper hundred tampa. I just realized that. I my son needs to be fake space and we need our teachers. We need them whether we realized that right. Now i'm over three hundred. I don't even know how to teach them like. Oh my gosh. i can't get him. The concentrate to learn his recognizing letters at numbers. But i guarantee you if i if he wants to go to school. A teacher be at a game to do it. And like with license Teachers yet to have a special knack or love to do that. Because you hate your damn teacher. That's what i'm saying. I wasn't a teacher. But i was on the youth development I knew how i can walk in a classroom. Come in inter do introduction and you know get the clouds going and get the lesson going blinds plaza. I can control the room but having to do that every single day. Why even on days. I just don't feel added. You're saying you. I know some days you me to have. England is walking highschoolers of listen. I look to high school. you'd be ruled though. Mispronounce wrong to listen. I have it a bath. Looking day. deals page listen. I i don't. I ain't fucking with it. We're going to do this. Worksheet lead me the fuck alone cool. But i had a. I had a with them to do that. But as like you know again you got point after your kids know you using fake but it is on some like every single day you gotta walk and smile and jive and now. I'm not feeling day. Bud with openings. United i work cares f until november eighteen. You know a lot of juniors seniors. Ob cellphone the very first time. I really started working older kids. I'd just go in there to the biggest one one day. You know the one who will leave the room and i scrapped with iraq would have died in our phone up. I'm good arab league or we go we go. I got the biggest way. You gotta put them grown men hands on real quick. I think they got this one home school and me. I know a couple of parents do high school and beyond be honest their kids. Okay but i noticed that they. Bsa whether to be a home school they have to keep them on their involved a lot. A lot of extracurricular activities because they don't get the interact with on a regular. And so i think that i personally over home march out. I mean if i had the time to do so maybe have to collect before. I don't have the patience to teach them. But as far as private schools public schools. I had thought about private schools. You know but then lie in a matter to me. I mean the honestly we're private public schools. They're still going to expose you dispose because like ball private school and public. They have a lot of kids know by drugs sex so you never had it from us. I agree i want. I wish i was home. Schooled and home school does it does limit i think socialization but nowadays they have homeschool and leagues. And i know even here in new jersey home school children could play for whatever school high school middle school play for the sports teams that that's near them and but they're so many associations where you don't even actually need to go out of go to the to the public school system to have your kids participate. Not only that. I wish i was home schooled Because the pressures of just didn't in and stuff like that you have no time for that home schooling. You're just learning so if education wise. Like if i if i didn't have the pressures of being a middle school or trying to be cool being a high school trying to be cool. I probably would've been ten times way more advanced than i am. Now a list. I am lady berry. Likes to homeschool Piece definitely the socialization part is key to that you know and just like you're saying If with so many different options the kids will be. I think you're gonna sweet accuse you do have to have the nevada some social Music spoiler ration- arts. I mean they interact with people that are eight so when you get older they kind of leave navigated with i mean but still did the home school because i can say i just need trying to sit in like know fit in your though like it teaches you though it teaches you day a in life. People say the middle school kids in Granted some of the most savage jokesters savage roasters in seen high school was bad too. But i'm from and when they really get started you can turn it. They'd be getting all their jokes from their mommy and daddy. I hate listen. It helped me down because it helped me stay on my toes. I always made sure my jokes is ready. And letting nobody roshni without me. Say something bad. So i mean it does help you build tougher skin and it's not for everybody. I'm not. I'm just saying what helped me out but it really helped me grow tough skin and you better get right dog. Eat you alive dog. it's going to be. I was with buddy on stage for eight mile in dot was loaned to go yo and just like state span. Never have that type of bro. They ain't gonna pop about john then he's still going to have to educate and then a lot of people you know. I don't want my kids to be exposed to this an where you don't see they don't find out or if you don't teach they were having is when they do get out there but the date of shelter they're not what we call smart so is like in my opinion. You have book smart. But they don't have no street smarts they're not gonna survive. You have books marsala day but if you can't survive and you got street sense or common sense then i mean you're going to be law so at the same time i don't want my child out there wow'd in just doing anything by also want my child to know reality you know like i just keep it real straight one hundred with my child. Because i'm not sure. I don't give them the information on goal idea. Get it from somewhere. Misled indian. it might be too late. You know what. I'm saying. So i feel like really up to the parent. Nowadays to private school school is up to the parent. I'm a parent. yeah. I definitely agree job. Thank you all for listening to him right now. A scientists nine and condie's of the We are burning. It live right now on the stereo app. We're talking about how you live right now. We live in education and talking about different things going on. How do you feel about education right. Now we're talking about homeschooling socialization with that being said a lot of great topics tonight again. Do as a favourite go ahead and share this broadcast right now. Go ahead and clip it on and healthier algorithm and if you're able to go ahead and follow me scientists nine and follow condie's or game. We don't burn it every friday night. Friday night lights thirty pm male. 'cause pop live burn in k now with that being said The socialization part. I again i made when i have kids. I'm just different. And i'm just too weird or just to advance or something. I'm not going to be teaching my kid like so much to fit in. I'm gonna teach them like listen. You're gonna learn like six different languages. You're gonna learn how to fucking hat computers. You know you learn how to run businesses. You're gonna learn martial arts and self defense meditation and yoga. Like when i have kids i'll care for growth. Then it'll be like who each on the name. Tom cruise listen. I'll tell you this. I'm be throwing plates at them. They'd be catching fingertips itself. I'm jay i'll soldiers like this thing. The whole shit like that to me again is again according to the parents. But let's hear this would be like this. How do you feel you know. We always talk about like. Hey man we gotta break a generational curse and with the with the whole school and put up with the student loans and stuff. But it's like we're saying. Hey we got to your kids. Socialization may was. You teach our kids not so much social because the socialization teaching us all of the same shit you know but then you gotta go re unless you gotta unlearn stuff later on because about we tell our kids. Hey make friends fit in but they might tell we get older. We see all that on should top of that moves to put that shit. I wouldn't necessarily. I wouldn't say that. I was trying to fit in but more so protecting myself that makes sense i was i i put myself up on your new yashin on. The taylor shocked my shed on the table to. But you know. I i shit in like when i was like grade you know because i was okay because i'm always i mean my twins. What actually my older sister and my twins. I think we were like inigo children or something because i think we were like william bands. You know just your as my older sister was like fucking tad's or talented gifted right so we're all like like you know that's a nerve kind of like smarter age but my thing with a little more abstract in a sense of just living i was the type of nigga into the day i used to chase my race my shadow you know what i'm saying. I was like that kid like this astle shot or i would be doing pushups in fucking class. All it again arranged. Dan the thing about it was like i guess but see. I was always like quiet reserved. A you know thinking about us through the same the keel. I i kind of let people alone and play. Because i really liked people though you. Don't i let me interrupt and this is. This is an example. So i remember we first met. You know you know what i'm saying. You quiet reserved gotta a deep. Pass them voice. So but do you remember. How are we used to joke on. You honestly joke you hard and guess what will happen tomorrow. We used to joke on. You are bro. You know it but it was outta love though. It wasn't nothing like like you know. Disrespect well guess what happened. Know what happened. You start you. Start a fire. The bullets baghdad. Like this and i knew that you weren't jokester like that. You know what. I'm saying and same as other homeboy. Dare you bad. We used to get jail and this and this was in it. I wouldn't say bullying. But it's not like i don't know it's just something that we've always done. I think about our our group of friends is in know we always roast each other. And i mean it'd be funny to me. I don't know if have have you ever felt the moment where you ally yellow. Yeah i chill out yup fucking jerry. I got back. I remember that he had lost you. Work with fedex fedex. You had lost like thirty pounds. You like skinny bodes looking like a day on jay leno them without rough everyone a us navy fucking jay. We all look when he is gone to. This room. look like angry. time might be life. Like i now. That was hard year that that was hard. It was a fun story. That's it was a dog. You came back to play you like you wait ninety five pounds soaking wet. He six five six four six five using jet skeleton the pumpkin king. As your dad. I always say that. Is you adapted. You know what i'm saying. That's my whole point is that you adapted you like you know what i ain't taking their shit joe van ass up now you don't just just go. You know what i'm saying. It was a moment where you like. Stick up for yourself. You know what is just a game we make sure. I have some tonal. But the this though so like okay. It's sticking yourself so it would just hold bullying share right. Yeah even kids. And maybe i'm always be saying you know so there's a teacher they keep bother me. You know the hey man chill out you know. She bothered me. Listen i told you chill out and it gets polite. They they they won't have like man. He says all slept designs back. I mean sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't and most of the time it does work. It was like fucking bother you you know. Hey stand up for yourself and and maybe that's the thing that i know it's crazy to say but i mean maybe old school definitely i'll know by over last five years man. I mean we really sit down and we we look you know if i had issued between two we would sit down and my office. We will sit side by side and we talked and we will leave that room. Just something was resolved in consequently resolve. Yala you lose some type of incentive that you may have earned or you're on your way get by but not before we before we leave this dealer today. Whatever knows happened. We're going to solve that day. Squash it we're gonna do whatever you know what i'm saying. You know especially when we you're dealing with kids. Those harbors to adults man. Listen saturday let's find out that we've collected targets my life actively united recognize the group. Do i'm not doing this every y'all go ahead if you gonna hit hit y'all got three minutes the interface. I don't know but a little bit only body shots road for real. It was a. I never really. It was a it might have been like renault loan in Remember jane yeah the rapper. Yeah they are. I let them go at it allies. I yell at the end you got say in you got shake hands like men initiative business absolutely i get that in that s sometimes that you kinda gotta lip just in that essence and i hate that. I hate that new work toxic masculinity wash bullshit. Were lie honestly it really. Is i older. So listen sometimes like mens navy men and they need to shift away there is and maybe the this loud To happen then. I value life skills. One of my life i value. Life's neal's more than anything just about right now. I mean as it was last decade to decade. We've seen a shift into different eras know would be in quarantine yet. Have life skills bro avenue. You hang out out here. They have them a bit. 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They gave a dog through one ta poured all this meet at like a big bucket like big packing boxes and it was like there was some dog meat in there. That was already want. I guess it got mixed in realize it with the next thing just did. This is pretty bad. Doubt they gave us pork rinds. Add milk and hot dog. Whines lebeau hotdogs. Give on how. I was so embarrassed. Community hot fucking. Nine louisiana newseum hot fucking pork. Has i'm still traveler. Hey man here's some grocery ten. I'm passing talking points for whatever me made a peanut butter. Jonas central data heads out nikki was brioche hotdog birds. What the fuck do fucking pork rinds. Milk hotdog bonds with no hot dogs. I really laugh when you serve pork rinds. Though the community the corner store you're talking about this thing. Like i know we were in working poor neighborhood. Maybe the ship guy you know they came back got there should be cleaning out. I'm not laughing. That down. The just i can just imagine getting excited over support rise. I'm serious but at the same time. I can't imagine own shit after every meal. Hey maybe that's crazy now. I remember you told me that. I thought you align i'd go. It's just damned. This is what they're feeding community the artist what they know. Just what i'm saying but as a professional as a professional usa doing community service. I thought so bear equal. I'm black man. And i'll pass out other black the cheetah's killing us. I'm a black man. Pass now not on. They know you as doing as a fitness hosts to this. Like i'm pass now fucking pork. And milk is the most and i knocking craig's but this is the most unfit cheer well. Totally speaking portland is actually have low carbs in all protein eighty calories and usually twenty one. Yeah le- poking post Let me all right. Let ago reporters in in the community. They point for real they pose into that little. I'll pass now. I'm gonna chime in. I'm pat about it my listeners. Your food bank worker and people come to you to get food. They don't have and you're not passing out. Candidates pass not break not passing on fresh produce in that pass. Now i own meals a serial you know or maybe a you know vessels. You're passing out fucking pork rinds. And milk and hot dog buns with. We don't meet like that is crazy like get professional. I'm embarrassed for that. His next time in a me crying nasa. that's such a shame definitely provide healthier food options for families. You know they they could but fortunately that was the black side of towel. So they're like. Hey goes it a go. Go go go. Go google the nigger resources. You know feeding them skins without the in authorized. I'll have you say i'm gonna pose even eat a hidden on the flipside. How much they waste your time about that. I'm gonna get the next. I'm guessing that got nuts. And i'm up here don last about courtrooms. I mean i'll look like a damn install. I get what you're saying is like okay. I'm black we already feels some type of way about you. The bush they feed us or give our children. They're doing something good you have in the community and they you see so like like like a slap a day or face and there's and it is crazy like envir- pan ages is embarrassed it is like you give it up people you you you damn as the of the people giving him port razzie but i remember them though i remember i can't let them for bush and you need a hot ones. I and hot sauce vibe but hey it doesn't need this shit like fucking pork rides for food bank and graphics so nigga fi also be professional preaching lack of power be. I'm heading out fucking pork. Rise evermore that killing me tune on passing the. I'm has not i'm talking. I'm preaching black powerless man. We just together the community. I'll give him a hot zone. Grinds what poor is in. I remember the first time i had a man. I got some family in north carolina. And i remember the first time i had I don't know a pig pig. They were they were come. Everybody here's the settlers and stuff. And i'm like oh where am i at east of this chicken on. Never forget it. I did it to the pace foot. I'll tell you the number like leg and fat scarring me. That man scar me have me by to pay their last holiday. The and i'm like the crazy enough. Like i mean appears fleet like okay but we eat a lot of weird shit that we know about but as i i know what it is is that i wanna eat something foot like. That's nah that's going. Buddy died in this. I mean how. Come home the nickel foot you know what. I'm saying like think about like humans. I'm sorry my sound bad my listeners but us as humans. We eat a lot of nasty shit. Like i mean this this this really want me shit too but is is that's him does he want. I will say Just on that aspect. We have seen mike the vegan kosher vegetarian starting to normalize that both but he doesn't being a vegan like okay. I wrote a book on his. Yes yes actually have a book on his own. I'm trying. I'm not necessarily trying to my wife. She's she's a vegan. Like i'm not because like knew though. Poke faulk you're paid between naked between the and they poke mike buffering a bit. Well that was the only sobriety Boss hickories i mean. I eat it. But i don't eat like i eat it occasionally. You know what i'm saying. It's not like in my daily diet. Why a lot especially when somebody makes them good rear. If you're a vegan. And i know somebody on. Here's a vegan time in. We used to nail rack of reasons. Yes yes we're talking about like these. These are fiery. The apr is and you smelled. Like what is your immediate thought. Lie you lied. damn. I want a piece of that shit or you know what i'm saying. What are your thoughts when you we smell something. That's good but that's not in your diet but you know what crazy enough and we'll hit chime in is like the whole thing. I someone is divided burgers Things modestly saturated. She will fucking soy which trying to shrink you. Dan nuts besides all that though. Yeah it won't be that bad. You know what. I'm saying that that begin. Cheese is the fucking worst. I don't care what okay. So you're not you put like some glue down and it gets hard outer skin and design but the by to them guzzo up. That's how how does she is. She's like glucose by my eating the fucking gad could just give me a real ship i listen i caught already but fuck at least it tastes. Good people don't realize how much dairy this one was. Dairy and fucking hell you darin damme nuts like what i mean do nuts. Let looking to being as a time and then get get out of claimed up dhabi hating on a p. behind the ally. Is we unload the cook thing. Feed the oh pigs fee may is frog legs okay. My from carolina is eight fraut lays omar guys it just so good and then i got tired of eating. All the time was damn poking beans. I feel i airtime poking being my makes me like. Oh we eat good night. I'm thinking she by you. Know how could some guess. What is damn pumpkin beans and dan rice. Our promise you grew up on it but there pixie especially the pick is the ma'am china. I hate to say the nigger foods to bust that. That that that that i mean i mean you know i'm thinking about this. Pigment step initiate stepping around on the chicken chicken are some of the nastiest fucking creatures on the face of this planet and we and we just lapping that shit. Eight a chicken chicken's literal. I mean like a couple of like our go. you know. Conditioning again is condition in. But it is like someone animals that we like systematically enslaved for our consumption then them damn things discussing like like broad fat. You can grow up. Yeah i like france. I don't care you just say what you want to say about native shrimp that at the good food. Good some good good food especially way especially when you prepare right but they say things that like okay. I think that's like. I'm not saying you're hypocritical. I think people become hypocritical on certain things like well how eating chicken you know shrip- now bush you're a fucking pig you know what i'm saying. Most dearest not one fucking shit. That doesn't fucking throw up. Didn't have some weird shit going on. That was somebody with a year out focused shrimp but the motherfucker each loppy on my lobby. That puckett gmo. Ask fish the fish on the simpson of three is green. I one person give me to give me like a preach to me about. You know why shouldn't eat shrimp. And i'm like oh you can say you can close the bible. I don't care eating shrimp die like get out my face and hope nuts. Next time i've been trying to get marvin to eat more plant based meat and stuff. But he's so extra it's like he knows me so it's like he can't do it Same thing with the cheese. It's like it might taste good. But i think it's a texture thing for him is damn texture. I think about when i want to eat a taco like there's different type of crumble. When his ground beef turkey ground turkey like that but different crumble by with ground beef and that fake ass. Meatless me you know thing about that is it means me shit. Meet this meat like they're messing all bread but how to fuck you put on your thing. Meatless no is. It's fucking just give matter. You know what i'm saying sometimes then meatless meal damn gummy like your fucking light by. Mixup starch in water. Like he's made like a little clay pots and stuff like that. That's what it tastes like. There's just like nah. i ain't feelin. This man probably did. But i'll tell you know. April is my man. Y'all probably a fucking human you know thinking about it. Nigga had been disappearing. Kim human baby. Chinese who which he'd negative china's we fucking rat monkey you know saying. Try your ralph this time because there are some good ones out there. Like four polio. Hardest good is a new brand Whole foods has called pamela. Creamery at promises the closest thing you're going to get to like real cheese and then ko makes brand that's sliced cheese is pretty good but i will die is nasty Via life is nasty. There are some nasty ones but there are some differences again is is not fucking real. I think about ain't knows. Real fucking systematically some bullshit and chevron down ambrose but thinking by like i cannot eat something that's like real wood you eat okay. This is my son crazy. Would you knew that. I'm sorry if someone was there real would you yet. Which what would not fall with it. Me sometimes nail. We know that she does room. We still eat it or fate or whatever but that's okay. Okay okay okay from. We know that. You know shrimps are the by an ocean. Guess what. Nick study they know. Mcdonald's ain't shit down the younger let me get. Let me get doubles meeting cry. You can get a dollar ice tea apple pie. I mean that's like slave shit like we eat. A fucking by pack crosses a listen a ditto out fly. Expose you iceland darci. You are mcdonalds and shit unison. Scientists has been up to the thing. Man i'm hungry. Yeah can i get Five double cheeseburgers cry to apple pie. Mcchicken please kirk got your. That man was an absolute monster about. Wow stuff we re does ice cream the time eight one slice of the petri you stay out of my day. Oh my goodness much by you. The the funny is crazy. Sporadic eater known crazy. Now do that shit even i fucking made. I may buffalo chicken tenders with similar reason toes and put honey on it and it was damn good. Well that's sounds fucking disgusting. That i raising us buffalo took. It was a little bit now even even even able to say you know saying my wife said this like she created after this you know of course her being heard me the she does eat the same thing that the guy andrew. I love your show bizarre foods. It was our foods america and you know it was art world like he goes east. The craziest sound eat fucking nuts or you know our monkey assholes like that. But it's just like what he goes. He goes to travel you shift and it's like i'm typewriters. I like to experience new shit right so as i also knew. Food is this tastes. Let me see how living most on like that. But i really think i have like a genetically iron-cast dumb it because till the day i could be fucking the crazy shit get up like ain't nothing wrong. You know what i'm saying. Ball who can like cinnamon cinnamon raisin toast with buffalo chicken tenders and on it like it was. Actually you know i battle. Maybe another sandwich pretty grown newly in barbecue sauce barbecue sauce and mozzarella sticks her awesome mozzarella sticks asked. We're into diabetes. Man i swear to god i do. But he's use your super disciplined than you. You know you can kill nash it. Yeah docs doxa. Different story though. Dot dot dot story taxes dachshunds. Docs if it's To starve or eat. They have t- to mcdonald's burger and my sugars low about the crash stats worst case scenario. But if i were choice. If i can definitely choose other than i'm going to choose the healthier choice because you know now you can't play. This stuff is so fake. it might be plastic. might be some real toxic. You got really be careful very gas food like shit fucking like we think about it. And you see that I saw video of. Mcdonald's burger sat out for thirty days. I'll say that had anything on it why it would have any modo Like how did not mold that needs is not real ball like how about we this earlier like you know what i'm saying mcdonald's like nick they had. They had some of the nastiest food. I think they told the whole adam on the grinder. Just go they eat a horse burgers for real. I saw chicken nuggets and the mcdonald's chicken nugget fence bro. The hockey the damn chick in the grinder baked this shit toes and beaks in hall. And then you're good as fuck nigga alive. The about especially either burger king started coming out with nuggets. Are team nuggets about forty nine cents all that healthy for you. You mean you could buy fifty piece dollars. Know six seven hundred dollars in change but think about this in about the fast interested what they actually sell. People like people really be eating. Just trash it'd be h- include like i'm not gonna say i'm just higher my i don't up garbage but he'll just fucking by carb is like by hockey union sale. This shit you know this next time though which is a Condie's man ano saying is mad. He'll get the whole big sharable bag. Am's and just eat a whole. He's a whole gallon of ice cream. Is it think something was wrong. Avi telling him his stomach is made of cast cast iron. Because i'll understand how he's able to like eat certain stuff in that amount and then sometimes he'll He'll be like five six days old. I'm like your stomach hurt. I'm good yo bro. I know how molly offer. That never heard this man. Going to the bathroom and boo boo. Nothing back. where does the and i ju- digested my strongest damn hyenas and shit. Like all everything to. I don't like coleslaw though. I fucking hey coleslaw like i. I agree with you. I don't even know why coleslaw was invented bro. The who are make kohl's house get fucking strength because she was. It's it's it's it's you practice. Gold salt lake. I ate that is to it. Brought us wiped asks with out of the water. Be sitting in the lobby of course nasty shit and it's like it's like bleach almost like a pig about this between that and black licorice like i know. I love black but one thing i hate. I hate that black liquor. Scout liquor is good but that black chewy shit man. Let's specially put candle wax some of the stuff that we eat man. That's crazy an as worse than little caesars. High ready you say fra it ain't worth a hot ready for five dollars a piece pizza fall open final at you eat it. You bet needed within the ten minutes about it. Would it takes thirty minutes. The heating the metal tiv addressing. She's like eating the piece of like a piece of drywall con. I know you talked with the sees wanna easily like two or three days and that we watch like eight pieces by himself. It was actually it was. Cd brought exists openness dvd's and one robinson. It was the same as your in the plaza next than it used to be blockbuster dollars i know we didn't owed his hair Yeah i never mislead headman with. He went ballistic and anything which worst. Since we're talking about healthy stuff healthy food on a breezy light bistro each throw in atlanta One of my good friends that i used to work with Boys and girls club metro atlanta. He actually opened it with a partner and man. I've heard nothing but things about i've had a chance to go over there yet I mix mixing neither liquor to me. I've had. I've had vegan days probably a handful of times but i definitely want to go check him out and support the little. Everybody goes over there. And i think maybe it's because i stay so far on the city but I definitely wanna wanna check it out. Y'all gonna win like beached off the restaurant dope. Yeah with that being said thank you for tuning is scientists nine and con diesel. The mail chris as we're burning ince live on stereo app right now. The word has been given so we check in how you live. First thing we talk about education now talking about this healthy food since we're giving us shoutouts about what she should actually try It made by if you ever go to. Denver is a nice or anywhere oregon or courtland nice. Little small place called voodoo donuts. Every chance go boo boo doughnuts. Please go basque. Abe breezy on plugging. different poodle. maple was best that great great man a great great. You know what i'm saying. okay. I definitely We'll check it out. I'm always looking for me. A good healthy place hearts. I usually just cook at home most of the time. Yeah fraudulent bistro absolut. Absolutely drank drank his next time. He'll go above earlier veto g. g. man he's kamal son. I mean listen. Met macbook son and puck out here was on. He probably would is. Oh my gosh. Voodoo donuts was amazing. I have one donut. But all my guy like vegan doughnuts were so good like they were massive. It is crazy. That's probably the best don't have ever had in my life girl everybody in the car. Why why everybody who lived down by looking at A only drinking tequila at the house. I wanna know what you drink on the own stuff. That actually crafted yeah. I found my listeners. I actually crafted my own Alcohol and stuff guy got bored may be a the scientists for a reason to experiment with shift to see what happens so yeah. I rather than sincere decompre- decomposition alcohol Like one time. We're actually almost blew up. Look the guy their science lab. My kid like literally on this year. So this'll half i. it's you left. That happens so we we have tomorrow. We had some zinke moss right in hydrochloric. Acid base is going to make a chemical reaction where were apparently. I actually put too much God it was. It was if potassium chloride. I think it was and tasks and chloride added zinke moss near i tell you the issue fists up so fast and busted the glass and caught on fire and i think maybe was some other agent next to it. That are facilities. They forgot what it was. We are not to. We all took the out my shit outta here in utah out. Some bells kemp action. We mixed could. We're trying to do stuff in it. And of course the i'll punch older will ignore so bad that i lose clear the whole hallway of the high school because i don't like spout out control so we all run out of the damn confidence shit. But you ain't gonna lie. my kids. Love me mustard islamic. I taught them a whole different cise. That book will never teach them but that kind of education us on their dexter science. Vip team say dixie man dark no another to like but i kind of go back the socialization and stuff like i think. I'll very socialized by fucking cartoons. And i would just. Those are the good old days. You used to wake up sunday morning cartoons starting to eight years to watch avenue tower. Asia's one Wilson komo sunday morning The doggies the come on. You know that we're talking about you. Know was born at show by all this shit he. I mean w shit like yeah. We love the story so if you go back and watch what the fuck was going on. He was like a normal damn kid going through regular shit. That little school kids went to junior high school kid with was like nothing really abstract about his stuff off an introvert though he will work. You're really looking at the story from the ad now that we look at as an introvert money he was out there. You know my man. He was a sucker for panama. As though soco is with mean okay. So what. It's doug was introvert like what did he see of color. As i think about it we all know in the my listeners to filter chiming on is our next topic. What race was doug and what racism people that have a realistic fucking brutal caller. You know they wasn't opposed. That we don't know mr dink and mr dick was a nigger and fucking skier was damn brother to you. Know what i'm saying. What's he gonna fuck in neo nazi or some shit. Bb was like a housewife and patty was like. I don't know like patty patty. Patty was right Like a friday. Yeah in y'all friday day if fucking I don't know what to mr bone. Was i think about them as names for the principal thing about it. Finally the thing about it. You name the fucking the principal mr bone. What kinda shit has ended in the principle that principle but savage bone in butts average like come on out. What watson his kids you buy their shit now wouldn't know his damn day y'all if anybody has any Any age kids or you know nine by any babies or go ahead. What was your favorite show growing up. That they you think would have influenced you. Ooh i can't. I got too many i man i used to think of the power dial unanimity show big bad beautiful fig are the fucking According to tyler. Man look i had and maybe almost about every nickelodeon show. I used to watch legends of the hidden temple on my one of my favorite shows author. They only have one season of it. Is my brother my brother meat but you know what he put thing about it. That was the show. You say anybody in here like you said in the eighties. Babies i know you see. It's go hand clapping. Let's see by know that. Show clever little hand thing she follows to but with that being said my brother made that was a dope ass. Show it really fucking ribbit. You know for one season But you don't want to. I hate it. I hate it critics by his all. I haven i hit that show. I hate it. I hate the fucking all that you know. I hate the pdf. You guys guy that hated. I hated that all that that was literally our era bro. I didn't i didn't like roundhouse. Now are you for again. It goes my interperted. I like all your friends are all of our garden like that was shit. That was kinda creepy ass. Show too long you. He's still you nightmares. No woman no now. The i remember that nigga then the member of the clown nick with a cigar that was one not shell to Shooter shorts now. That camp on august. Who will weekdays about to court it and other jose donkey lips down lives down. That would mid stuff right there. Omar dialyzers but i remember. I try to sit and watch cartoons with my son my son. He just wasn't having he's like know what. What are we watching. He was so disrespectful. Ornament low key cut hurt my about The type of the type of Entertainment we came his kids low more for adults. Shit that you watch now. This is plain stupid like like for example teen titans go. I hate that fucking show with every ounce my goddamn heart. I hate that fucking show. I went a first team. Titans in teen times go. I read joaquin tie. It was so much better but teen times go is fucking stupid spongebob. I hate that show. Like i hate everything about that motherfucker outta hate his lap eight. It's fucking face. i. I hate that movie. You know what. I'm saying fairly our parents the wild thornberrys. I don't like them damn shows too damn stupid but i fucked that but still present. Google typed old. Nick tunes like for example. I now for those my listeners. Go back and watch. Rocco's martin life just just watch it like what's happening. She doing in that show. Was i think was wider. The renaissance debuted renaissance. Deputy was on some things like acid. Lsd half the damn time have freakout Disorder rocco was. Like telling you shit that you're probably gonna be doing are seen as an adult we older. That's what rock was marl was about an near. Rockall was going through some weird as shit like we were like broken his house and filled them naked. He's like come on down like your friends as they'd be breaking your house. If feel unique own an art show does she did on rocco rock johnny shit and then and then mississippi can't think about this can't literally was the trump error. Like keep nude. Misbehave was like the racist but his wife was like the submissive one but she really wanted to get out the duo of types of weird stuff like a man breaking it down this go back and watch him for it his damn foot family leave with a family of walls and they made this thing he was a dead what he was a big ass cow and he got the purse over this year time. Clarissa explains it. All was a great show at all. The nickelodeon shows i would say like that one was like i had books. I had all kinds of stuff i wanted to. I thought i was gonna clarisa and that would blossom there doc. Martens the way they dressed. Are you afraid the dark ren and stimpy salute your shorts my brother and me all that keenan and kale all that stuff was good when we were growing up. I'm thirty seven now but like that was like the golden days for nickelodeon were it. Was you know. Even even the game shows double dare wh- goods oma god goods what i wanted to climb to aggro crag i wanted to hit. The top has fly on me. You know what i'm saying now. Y'all can't forget another show. I used to live with the adventures of alex matt. I'm no lady bird. I know you probably like that too. I find the show is decent. I you know what it was. I'd rather watch. I was mixed and got their You know about chris. As i had we should think about your friend it taking a ladder and come up to your fucking pan Overa- thing about it. I knew you your challenge our key. They is okay to climb up a fucking window for example but even the moved air was at at thousand no late nineties. I'm sorry yeah. It was early nineties early in mid nineties but but still but but even then with that being said like the golden labor brown at the golden era of this shows. We hat is like fucking gone. I- even the movies a kid for prime example they have never ever ajaz macaulay culkin for this and joe pitchy. Cowles of guys name God i can't think of his name. I've been davis. When i had the guy played more. Shout out to them for home alone right. The woman into they fucked up on three at home alone. Like not at third one was when they got rid of fucking kevin mcallister. That's when he she got stupid life but did you ninja turtles that the thinking about anytime they make the third movie. Most of the time at third moves different. Oh man i mean. They've really tried to revive the franchise. I thought it was the when it comes on. I watch like anything before. Would you watch the first or second or third one. i mean. of course. I watched the first and second one. But i'm just telling you. I listen to the slander would not be dealt with tonight and fuck that that there was shit it was. It was bad as know a lotta guys movies. I mean yeah. I mean for example We've made me the averages wife's for i finish the whole damn thing. Got the hook up with mass appeal move. I didn't watch that movie with. She liked the active was so bad. Like it's a classic whether you ever seen a movie. Tremors i like the second one bit all the best one. I love all of them except the fifth one and to fix that. Was that one with our cold day and hilsum shit or you're still i mean again. That was just a it was just a bad. We'll be accurate. I think about it nigga. Beginning shot how to handle you. Shoot somebody over machine but only got two bullet holes. Come on man you got you got us wanna see you wanna see somebody who lives tease. The show bro. The only the only time. We've seen that ashley had shot up. Like live was on two accounts that was set it off in that was training day. They turned queen for and denzel washington. Fucking bus lobby. The cold cuts. They shot up so bad. Like i did. Thanks all time leading worth shootout. Ever like they killed. That bra muga decided though about eventually a peden p yes world. Alex madman man. it was a childhood craze. Yes applicant that people without good shit bro. Head that day of show bride shit. Majoria nickelodeon shows of our air. No not all of them. This more the real. I like the cartoons and then i kinda still teetering on with like the original cartoon network cartoon cow and chicken in dexter lab johnny coward counters. I watch every day. It was a dumb shit. It was the we scream halftime. No fucking reason and the old man was scaring his ass. Shit nigga dirty took dog we last time. Yeah man yeah. I mean i know you mentioned Tisza washington in china day. But what about What's the name cleo for mom said at all no never i dear i i still tear up when i see clear Killed she got destroyed. So yeah for the badly. I mean their prisons. They got bad shootouts in there. You know what i'm saying. Yeah absolutely absolutely good. Good talk good talk but for my listeners. Hey it is. Scientists kind diesel were burned in Lie to fight night lights. We appreciate you off for tuning in this evening. Hey we had a great time talking with you all every friday night at seven. Thirty pm burned in k. Live with those just having a good conversation open. Improv do is little favor. Make sure you follow us right now. At signs is not an falls kind diesel. Also go on instagram. And follow us at in pd cast okay. That's milkers podcasts. that's im- kpd cash. You can also follow us at scientists nine that's n y in e and you can follow his ex. Ko ex-con con d. i. e. s. e. l. e. ex con diesel. Follow us out chats on out. Subscribe to as we do is a night also makes you listen to podcasts. 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S02 E04 - Peter Wynne - The Developer Tribe

The Developer Tribe

57:50 min | 2 months ago

S02 E04 - Peter Wynne - The Developer Tribe

"Well compared to the develop patrol episode four of season. Two and shaping up to be really exciting sets of guests and topics this time were exploring the issues surrounding competition in academy football with wider implications of the winning versus development arguments. So prevalent in new spoke so as ever. Thank you for being here. However you got here and we're in my guest. Today is a company kirch oxford united f c on a primary school teaching assistant with previous experiences. A head coach Town academy challenges sports in the us and swansea city afc community trust. You recently completed an msi in advance performance. Football coaching is reached from which we will be talking about today. Pops the greatest achievement of the law is having gone through living with may impulse appraise. It's my pleasure to welcome margaret friends. Pizza went into the. I'm very well. Thank you Been literally days since last soy meal. Absolutely the united talk a fair As aids and those conversations do tend to go on a bit of suspense. So we're best crock on. Yeah oh yeah. Okay so talk to us about what. That research was via mazdas. So my my research. Look into the academy system in england and wales interviewing coaches from the foundation phase. So under nine's all the way up through the you know the development phase including heads of coaching lead face coaches and professional essay coach developers. The research basically asked for all their opinions and insights into what they felt walls. The views on competition at the elite academy level so what the current structure is how they feel. It works whether that needs to be changed. Or whether it's quite suited at the moment no cools. Those coaches were not just from one zickler. Category states has also academy. They would take from category one which highest level of a kappa academy. Agree all the way through to category three no close. The games program looks very different from category one. All the way through its category three. So the experiences that law those coaches of had you know quite different And i was fortunate. Enough to interview coaches the Coached different youth phases so in the foundation. Now maybe working. Towards the top end of youth development phase two coaches the of work in the academy system. And now maybe taking a coach developing a structure into the role now And working from that perspective Likewise you know when when when coaches talk about You know go in from category three. Say through to green one games program. It looks very different. But that was similar trends that were in in all the categories. Which is why. I'd love to discuss in on this podcast in the coffin. Full show enough to tell it to you several times about this already so The Unpacking even further today just just to clarify so yacht coaches across the different phases. His foundation phase being seven to eleven youth development phase. Sixteen yes i said. Okay and then professions face eighteen to twenty three. Yeah basically so. It's andrei team so you know post. Sixteen months ago scholarships through to the you know the twenty twenty one will. You've already spoken about differences between cat. Wants to cut three and there are a myriad of them. So let's let's stick to Competition looks like for those three categories. You know all the major differences so you know of course. The category one games program tends to have a little bit more structure. There's a little bit more variety throughout the season. They have goltz An element of compensation Which country shagged with me But this was only maybe one season In terms of a national tournament and of course they they added on top of that. You know if you get knocked out after the couple of rains than those plays. Don't get those exposures like other teams or maybe stronger. Cat one teams. We'll get a few more games So it's it's not very consistent. Which is a lot of the coaches mentioned and is it a case of trying to get a more eat. Co- exposure to competition across the categories is kind of what what you're finding. Yeah i think you know especially coaches have gone from. Say a cat three. You may cap to or something to that account one. They found the cat one as evidence of it and their experiences with his competition on being in those tournaments a fascinating to listen to in question because gold. The boys and the players in the the experienced those plays get is excellent brilliant. You know the the social the emotional management of those plays and what they have to try and deal with say. They're in the game and they know the of is they don't win they get knox And arguably those countries say well. That's those boys need to start understanding that thirteen fourteen years of age is they need to understand. The you know playing a game you will have a consequence for losing. Not phrase is being repeated. Many many times you know consequences for losing. Have we got enough consequences for it. Plays loose nuts. Let's kind of look at it from the opposite side than is as to what why we've ended up in. This situation obviously worked in academy footballers while i was in foundation. Face on the sense was winning. Dozen matter development is the focus. But i had a group of players who were naturally extremely competitive with perhaps the exception of one or two and i think that both myself am. I joel coach. That was working with our also fairly competitive so it was a case of just striking a balance of look winning and losing does matter but so long as you're focusing more on. What is your individual development team development the score. We'll take care of itself kind of thing and we were fortunate. Enough to be involved in some premier league tournaments. The power plays that kind of thing and also our foundation phase lead look. Smith is now west ham and he went out of his way to get friendly's forest with calgary to carry once an unruly without we would have Struggled for for competition at times but during that time i was very aware that there was no leak the wheel playing in it wasn't there wasn't any sort of win. Loss draw on that Little bit saccharin is the way the describe it. Yes coaches coaches say stagnant as well and you know linking back to you know one of your previous points that that that focused on winning came up a lot and obviously coaches messages to play with tend to be boys obscene. We want to win the game but our presence as a coach. Wanting i will place maybe win. The game then borders all not fraser win at all costs and really west definition west Definitive line between obviously coaching coaches want to win. The play is wants to win. But where is that phrase of all costs because coaches will obviously avoid and not topic of just competition. Winning is just voided completely. Avoid and the spotlight is very much angled in a different way to allow players. Just perform without that pressure or focus on look boys you know if we win. Today we get the opportunity to maybe play another game on. If we win today we might have a chance to maybe win win in the league. And i'm sure we'll be able to discuss with maybe wallpaper might look like a more coaches may may have sold said what it might look like but in terms of you know that that win. It will costs and development. It was very much scrutinized because coaches won't feel have seen the benefits of walt plays performed like in a competitive game so that there's a sense of the winning versus development. Argument happens a lot. We've come across contemporary issues in our own studies. They're all coaches up and down the uk who are grappling with particular issue. If i've understood conversations before on this the sense from the coaches that you researched and then your own sense well was the not the the way to deal with. This is to immediately implement competition where every game matters and the winning becomes a focus. More that we have potentially swung too far the other way towards the development side game. Start matter in terms of the result any formats that actually plays getting closer to professional development. Phase have locked exposure to competition and therefore are unable to deal with the precious competition brings of course in quite a few coaches in that sort of face towards the very top. The commented all you know we get loads of plays. Technically excellent tactically. Understand the gang really really well but now. They're in a leak that playing competitively every single week andre jeans and a lot of them just ready cope with being under the pressure. Just natural pressure. We would describe it as at that level of being able to go one nil dong we need to go win the game and it is a simple as not and i think we've turned the spotlight away so much like you've said you know the power dying of going into development as opposed to focusing on a bit of wind in a few of the coach developments and stuff did mention that they think it's swinging back but there's obviously hesitation as it as it swings towards. Maybe well actually look you know. We do need elements of plays needing to win place being exposed to opportunities where winning does matter but also learning to cope. Will you know if we do lose this game then. Obviously there's maybe a bit of pressure on the next game to mention a few coaches that you know they say as you know winnings tuned into did not would in the sense Your previous solve questions about really the contrast between academy football. I'm where it's sort of gone to the angle of which has gone to with reference to the competition it's quite the opposite to maybe a grassroots full. You know well obviously a lot you know. Most coaches have stayed off if you look at the grassroots game and see the academy system and the games program that i can count. Numerous when coaches said he feels like the opposite way round in in that sense. They you know you've got a games program with competitive games every single week from argue eleven years old up to than academy football where you'll get the old festival over yet. The old seoul south festival around christmas where it's competitive will is a little bit of a trophy. The end new something and the rest of the games are just. So you know folks on your individual lunen plans folks on game targets. Just those sorts of things. I'm with assessing players against those i lp's but in an environment where arguably it completely changes. If you say put unimportant on that match for for instance look if we win this game next game might become a bit easier or the next game might actually mean that the opposition now. We're going to be struggling all of those things matter. And they make a big difference especially at the level that these boys are playing in. Tim's football mix such a difference to the way they make decisions on the bull. That confidence that motivation up to up to weekdays loans coaches said you know you know the the week leading up to one of those tournament games at cat one. They just saw such a difference in the preparation of some of that place that they'd never seen before you know. Plays prepare a bit differently because they knew that the game was more important than maybe other games that they've experienced before and the coaches just said well why. Why don't we have more of that. Because fifteen fourteen years old arguably in three or four years time they could be playing in one of the top. Three leagues english focal. Yep so so why has. The pendulum swung that way. What was what was the rationale for. Let's remove this sense of competition. Let's remove the recording results. What was the rationale behind it. What how we ended up here. Now i think when one of the coaches the i you know i interviewed hutch of voss amount of experience and i was very grateful for being able to interview him and he sold from his perspective in his opinion and obviously experienced foods. Time since you know the to thousands in of saying well you know back then. The system in england mainly Was that we would develop in. Lots of physically determines gritty shall we say players but technically Struggled against maybe a a european Partners so in terms of the development you know the system the governing body needed to shift because we will create players that were able to deal with the physicality of the game Love you know going down and trying to fight that way back. But technically and tactically may be not anywhere near the european seems that we were looking around us so i would say the it started off roughly that. Then we've focused purely on the development. We've always looked out grassroots gang scene. Maybe the more negative sides of walk. Competition of walton league tables does to maybe participation with kits kids as they get older and obviously parents volunteering that time. And everything like that to to you know just basically to use this as a participation basis for kids just to play football and you've got a league system that where obviously every game is measured every goal is measured and that pew iranians. The only focus at that level of people is league table. there's nothing really else about from participation. Just go about league table right. And that's that's that's the major issue. Is that if we were to swing back the other way particularly in grassroots but as we both know this happens in academy football while expectations on a use game and you know my feeling is that. Perhaps one of the reasons we've ended up here is because as a coaching coaching wild in uk. The has still been this real push off cultural values of that grittiness as you said all dot pushing for winning at the players should automatically be motivated to win the game but also we've learned a lot more about coaching science and psychological side of the game focusing on rather than outcome. These things will come into play of course so my sense is that there is a another way here. You're not necessarily suggesting right. Let's just put everything back to where it was. This was an experiment on wrong noto a toll so start talking to us about what the alternatives are because we stated that competition. Perhaps the exposure to competition isn't high enough. Yes are also saying that. We don't want it to be too much. So how do we get this balance. I posed this. You know this topic to a lot of the coaches. They needed to apply themselves in some sort of example to help them understand what it might look like. They're full making it easier for them to answer all the questions. So the came. Up with linking it to that. I ps on this cycles of development. So you know on a on a six week basis perhaps having like a small league within that six weeks while you've got four or five teams and the leak finishes at the end of that six weeks so you don't get this preseason targets and goals go in this season. We're going to win the league because the league will be over in six an another legal stop in. Maybe a month's time tournament might start in a month's time by breaking it up in that way and look in the food team if you look at food team football dust broken up. In terms of fa cup efl premier league champions league or those things all broken up even preseason all the gangs broken up so it gets used to having to prepare for game. That's more important than may be the gain this coming up next and not is vital when you look specifically in the youth development phase where we're preparing players from twelve years old through to sixteen to go and play inaugural arguably the most competitive highly viewed leaks in world. And because of that. I don't think we have developed enough players. The able to manage an emotionally control that performances. And that's where they get. Let down i think. Technically and tactically e they are efficient play within those leaks the arguably have mentally prepared them enough at the younger ages because conscious of a sixteen year old. That's never really played a three points in his life to go. And then triton with stephen the plane for three points like then lives depend on it the environments of what. He's come from to where he is not in not fewest team. Up polar opposites polar pops and the question is always doing enough. Can we do more to help that. Sixteen year old prepare themselves mentally. I would say more for fifteen football yet. An interesting point. And i was also thinking you know with my coach. Develop ahead of for the coach. Of course you know if you're not used to matches the matter tournaments that matter it's very very easy to them become emotionally hijacked and revert to mattering too much not being able to emotionally control ourselves and therefore not being able to help. Our young players emotionally regulate zoo because of emotional contagion. So a i get the sense that there are two ways in which this might support the couches mall to the with not having to fabricate competition as much in our training session right in order to of. Yeah because you know likewise you go of competition was naturally presented who plays on the weekend for example the thirteen national cup whether playing another cat one side. The coach does not need to remind those boys of maybe importance on the outcomes so consequences. Shall we say of that game. Based on the result the coach does not need. Tell those boys before the game all likewise in the week leading up to the game and that's the difference dot is crucial in terms of how players can perform not just in games but in training. Because is there isn't anything on the games on the weekends. boys will obviously up to the games. Play the games focus on their. Ilt's and performance outcomes and then evaluates it reflect on it and then the just going to the next week and just drifts from that we can we cow until the coach says boys festival coming up. tournament. We coming up always competitive. The players haven't felt feels like so they can't be expected them to go. All change the mindset into more winning attitude an a desire to get something out of the game and a brilliant example of this was a coach's coaching dominant london and there was a festival and he was coaching an under eleven team. They will to kneel down with five minutes to go the boys school get one back but they don't go and get the bowl or they don't really celebrate they just run back to the off. Wei night i'm weights the opposition to stop the game and the coach stood the was thinking. Obviously going get the bowl. Because we've only got five minutes left to get goal or your you know your competition. Basically we go home and each is reflected in that moment and off which the these boys haven't got back competitive experience. They haven't got the opportunities being exposed. Sorry to the opportunities to think right. We've only five minutes less. So if we don't school of and maybe in the past is being avoided and covered maybe is avoided by lieutenant going. Well we haven't. We haven't gone goal boys only later or afterwards plays realized. We needed to get the goal than we would have. Maybe played again all driven. Do you think 'cause wallets when in those situations with young plays the sometimes it almost fills like we put them in situations where they experience. That's call it trauma fennell. I'm not sold on that what that's called at trauma finale of losing the somehow we is coaches parents. If it's grassroots two ways coaches have to solve that particular emotional problem for those kids. The for whatever reason it's it's not a chi- on i'm not saying is but it's not a k. For some reason the in these situations kids can't be crying angry. Dismissive experienced conflict me. That feels just disingenuous. If that's even a word dozen eight thousand you your rights and not enough very similar to you know the way i felt it out. The reason why put fish research together in the first place. Let's be honest and a lot of things that coaches and shades is that we create lots of situations where as a coach we accountable a wheel responsible. Full managing that emotion or that social situation without maybe let the players just trying to work out themselves. You know we told him. By technically and tactically trying to let the players work out for themselves but we can do that socially and psychologically as well as the technical tactical aspects. And you know a few of the other coaches say. Well you know we have confidence. We have to motivation. We have resilience. How do we really defend those things. And i mean reading about those things. If those players are not going on a journey if you like through motions of feeling gog dog wish one not gay or go to school. Got another goal. You know we may have been able to get three points for that game. I don't say that's the pinnacle of the season because it might be over in a month. Which is the point. Because let's be on not mature enough to be able to deal with. Say the pressure of a season long league system where they're doing really well before christmas. After christmas it gets really difficult. And that's where the problem lies with win all costs because coaches then feel like they've done really well before christmas there may be hadramut. Play is off to christmas. 'cause doing so well but his all because is measured within the same system league system whereas if you cut that down to say four weeks six weeks it's over with on the plays then can reflect on it. Put it to one site. Have maybe a couple of a few games there where there's less pressure. There's nothing really all mccain's to see how performance differs between goal. This is walk. Feel like when. I'm in a game. Where made me masters and this is why. Why feel when okay. We don't really have much on the game. So how do. I manage my own self performance. When there isn't maybe anything on the games compared to say do do my performances heightened after i played again when there's something on it it's just a really interesting Of of what football is film. People in in the uk My experiences in the us. I was out there longer than you than what experiences in the us whether bond launched these these leaks muttered more often than not and even in the situations where you know extensively. It didn't matter. It's still powered still still looked up league tables and things like that. She more than enough spoken before about you know issues a parents wanting to playoff age groups. And what what what problems dot causes and soul feels to me like what you're suggesting than the over. The course of a young plays jenny through an academy. There is progressive exposure to competition. So now you can a little bit about us develop emplyees A that in the article you writes on this ground where it's a fairly diagonal line across the diagram. Basically obviously won't be as linear as dot but basically there is that progressive exposure. So can you tell us a little bit more about what that might look like. Yes so in obviously intends of foundation phase. You know maybe the way it is at the moment with the festival's be the foot sal. Being competitive might just be enough and you know. Obviously research didn't really delve into what it might look like necessarily but certainly was something stemmed from the findings and then lots of coaches and say it needs to be drip fed into players not just dumped on them at sixteen. Go in there. it is. That's football for you from sixteen trying get into producing it needs to be drip fed in a mall sooner than that and learning how to compete learning how to win needs to be just exposed needs to be given an awareness before the age of sixteen so at sixteen. They are able to manage their emotions. Manage that feelings are expectations before they even consider how they're going to perform in an environment where it's different to. Maybe well experienced youth development phase foundation phase it needs to be exposed gradually so what it might look like. Tim is maybe twelve eleven. Twelve z. Make just get one block a month whether just have maybe some sort of game system where there's just three or four games against an opposition team where something a little bit more on it. You know. there's maybe a little table or something or the winner might go through and play the winner and that's it then when we get through teams four teams they need to start understanding the preseason masses and gains christmas might mean more two games before christmas or after christmas. So that's what a bit appeared is asian comes in and we may be set. I would the six week blocks on the site. Kohl's say that six cycles cycles one on full off competitive in a league table on the winners of those and the wind is of those get the reward for going on maybe play in the next cycle or the next region even and maybe localizing the regions because those another thing as well. He's obviously you know the game system in obviously travel time is something that loss Discuss traveling plays from an perrine. Soco's across the country going posse. Ten fifteen twenty clubs drives to a sit in club to them. Play forty fifty sixty minutes of football. Drive all the way back Is that really the most productive way of getting as many games. Let's be honest many things that we can fall. I will play his exposed in that in that korea's arguably that's another discussion. We can have that discussion another time that i mean. These are the countries in europe. We allow the teams. Do not travel those distances. We can we cow youth teams. At least so you've got some ideas around what some solutions might ban and clearly. Look i'm gonna put on your shoulders to solve this this complex issue but what you have done is been able to really identify issue. Not so important. It sounds to me like you know some of these solutions that you're suggesting our ideas hair around progressive exposure that will also have to be progressively. Pretend because we could say right. This is what we believe. Is the next best thing for us to do. But we've got plays already in the system who haven't experienced on once a week. Could you from from fourteens. You should be experiencing this level of competition. But they haven't caught up progression pre previously so this this aspect of being able to deal with a slightly better improve our experience a competition as for our young players also going to have to be slowly put in course in the law of the coaches actually asked whether i was asking players. You know as well as themselves you know with all of these questions because they would be very interested in seeing the responses and log coaches. Solis summarized and said i could tell you what they were going to say. You know they much robbed. The games weather is something on them. You know the outcome. There's a consequence for maybe not being able to win. They would much rather say those games than gains where. There's nothing radio on them. And you know the coaches then obviously the the experienced those games. 'cause you know is only sold cat one where they really get to expose those games on a more frequent basis sydney to say that they have to reflect themselves really well in terms of how they've responded how they behave that body language to sit in situations and observed closely on how the players then have responded back because just from the reaction of say going two goals down in. Let's say an important game while there's something on the game and he's got twenty minutes to go the ball language and the behavior that you present every single player will feel how you feel and respond in those moments of how you respond so it does full very much back on the coach and of course. It'll change coaches behaviors. It will of course it will but my argument is is that the natural process is that no unnatural aspect of the game that these plays also need to get used to his coaches. Not just being this monitoring emotional stability owner of the time you know experiences when coaches get a little bit for straits when coaches get overjoyed and excited coating save them needs to feel right. How can i still perform. How can i still make that. Crucial pass the crucial salt. When excitement on the touch lies when there's a motivation behind me to poke this ball in the net. All of those things they have to be able to perform like well where walks in place at the moment in that exact moment go in as a great goal. He's finished really well. But the coaches emotions like very very stable and so the players around by. We've we've talking with both spoken about this way. What you Up in involved in situations where players done something outrageous unin context while mate may be. It's something weather. I've been struggling to some confidence. They haven't been performing. I well and then they suddenly do something. That is you know outrageous. And the feeling is that. You can't celebrates it yukon. Enjoy it. I was watching what. What for the moment during a lot of miked up videos. I think i think there was ben foster already kind of started it all off the on the stock market up different coaches and saw i saw today actually that one on the groundsman of interest anymore but there was one on. I think it's heightened mullins. I think i've got the right night could've given all kinds of different wrong niger. Let's as hayden mullins. And i think it was the under twenty. Three's law of accuracy. And this and i think it was the under twenty three's team anyway. More importantly the video the players score right. The team schools on the coach does absolutely nothing. There is no response whatsoever. And i'm not necessarily sinuses right. Not necessarily saying it's wrong. Could be all kinds of reasons as to why that's happened but what was interesting for me was reading some of the comments and obviously a load of this stuff. You know the comments on from coaches in academy system that from joe blogs but there were quite a number where that would different experiences of that coach. Not doing anything. Some very confused by that somewhere even a little bit. I inquiry about the on some really applauding it as not getting too involved in the game. Who knows what the reason was. But it really did get me reflecting a little bit on my own experiences of academy football on notice aligns with yours. Can we actually show positive emotion when things are going well and how. How aware hallway of situations where we're either winning heavily or losing heavily. We're having to perform well having to really on a infamy just a non human face on it. Yeah you know that there is a lot of there is a lot of your rights you know. This is of opinion on when i go back to coach being emotionally stable. There's a load of opinion on. When the coach drops all goes above that blind and it's it's frowned upon in most cases. I would feel. But i don't think with than actually help our place to quote another coach. Are we actually do them at the suit by doing that. Because what happens then is plays than use to that stable emotional support. When let's be honest not much really on the games anyway to be then thrown into an environment west emotions go from zero to one hundred back to zero within minutes every single minute every day every week so for them to be used to not give us news no gradual exposure to it very limited time to experience. Those things in yes alone might be able to manage or try and deal with those emotions whilst performing to be then thrown in and expect to still perform like they did the previous season and keep that level of performance. I would say for a lot of plays unattainable. You can't expect players to go from being in a in a game system web no games really matter to be in in a game this program where everything masters an expected performance to the the same or if not slightly different And i think it's obviously important for us to bo- size while the by saying and speaking about coaches being able to be emotionally accessible. Put it that way the way also not saying that within the extremes not as score pa the problem but at the same time as you said that kind of monotone single align of of emotional responses also doesn't really appear to be particularly useful our own in terms of starting to wrap this up. I want to have a little thought experiment with you of. Let's say that we are in a situation where competition is brought in on a gradual exposure. The competition is brought in a little bit more. My thinking is the what we would see is more of plays particularly towards end of starting to employ them dots. Of course yeah. Right matt even the game or even through the game you know in the bowl why Look we all know. And i would say i would say personally. I would class them here. Law coaches shots. It at times go manage the game by going to manage the game you off doing little things that obviously maybe waste time or the opposition a little bit frustrated those things i would cause as managing the game and things that you as players as performing at that level. You just need to get used to not let it affect you personally. And i guess then Some other examples not having exposure to competition means that you don't have that savviness. Now as i said eddie. Revoke enough to take a group From from bristol to a premier league power play tournament and we were doing radio and pop light twelve minutes to anytime during the game. Assuming it's music on or gaza worth double wonderful experience for coaches and for plays where we're playing playing chelsea we. We've managed to play really well against high categories up till now. This is quite a jump for us. Category three to category one play against chelsea. We go one nil up. i think. My job's done clip clipboard. Down you know of of football solvable completed mate. Music comes on and two minutes later. We all twelve one down. Yeah you know all this happened. Is these chelsea boys of white until the music comes on. Manage themselves managed. The guy made sure that they weren't conceding anymore. Taking a couple of risks but not many soon as the music came on by they were in on it. Really shots to me. Just how lethal exposure we were giving to my plays in terms of having seen having some savviness. Of course you know to adam to that point you know the coaches that world cat. One hundred obviously more fortunate to go out on tools like playing tournaments and festivals. And they're you know in terms of this topic. It looks so different so different to the games that are experienced by those count one teams in this country. Even those cat one coaches comments on our boys as one plays not ready or no exposed enough compared to the obviously that the plays that that plane against from holland spain or those countries and it just gets them to think. Well have we gone. All of we got enough while compared to maybe you know those countries where you like you said you know. More games are obviously played because of the location on the travel time bone top of that. There's more games that mean something will have consequences for the game and those boys are experienced to deal with those situations from a younger age arguably them what we're exposing those players to in this country so those boys picking up those skills of being able to manage their emotions self reflection on how it performed you know of of conceded that goal lots let let let it affect me because the next time i got the ball. You know wasn't really concentrating. Past was off or whatever but those things and all of those skills a solved those players. A lawyer is arguably in this country. So that for cnn student team fourteen years old. We don't play those those boys and those plays those players afam all used to managing games. They will manage their own emotions. Much better goal down two goals down. They feel like they're able to really perform and still perform whilst games not going that way happen whereas our experiences in terms of coaches we see a go down or go up and then the impact on open next action is as a greater effect on our players as it does to the opposition players in that sense a not arguably is something the obviously is why the researchers put together is why coaches feel like. This should be more of it not as much maybe as those other countries. I'm not saying that you know we should have the same as those countries but sudanese may be something similar because that element of a game. No matter where you're from these faisal Really complex issue. The we're not going to solve today. Of course when no you know that. Have to be a cultural an organizational shift to really get close to something. That's more appropriate. I don't wanna say solution because no don't necessarily feel like there is a rights. Soc there is what your research has done wants to have you on the Today was really exposed. Some of the complexities of this particular issue and the there is a way in which we come. More naturally produce exposure to competition wouldn't land that responsibility with the coaching staff. Which you both you. And i am in a lot of the coaches that you interviewed who've experienced berlin. Thank you have a question for you slightly different if you could have an audience with just one passan cheese that had just one pissed nine if you could have an audience with one person who would i choose. Yeah yeah like clump. I think many people can see the reasons and the behaviors. That klopp has klopp is able to manage emotions. Although sometimes you may not see it. Clock can manage his emotions whether he takes a play off the pitch. He knows that emotion running through that time. He's able to manage emotions when liverpool drawer game in the crowd thinkin while they celebrate in so badly there's always a reason why clock behaves a model the behavior to argue the some of the best players in the world and even those times. Some of those plays a questioning. Is he behaving like that. I i'd love to ask you know if as you well know malevolent profound. I'd love if we were able to get together. I'd love to unpack some of those moments and really find out how much this was conscious. How much of. This is liberates. Because not all of aids surely no no no but it'd be so much to find out his reflections on it. Yeah and if you if you. If you send chemo there's not. There's not many moments where he's made a mistake in terms of his behavior. He's very you know over the years of his professional career. There's not many real media mistakes. The really hit the media on the way he's behaved. Unlike maybe other coaches so. This definitely animates that. That's why my audience would tied left just to to be him because he comes across. Maybe two most as someone. That's i will control it. Bunkers doesn't really know me doing at times. The icy man is extremely well behaved into not well behaved consumes of how he manages his emotions. Every game in heightened games in some of the most emotionally heightened extended extreme cases of support that can be ever experienced. Yeah i won the Was one recently wasn't The game was it because that was the first time that i fought Wonder if there was a little bit of an emotional hijack there at halftime spat with it between the. But i think sean die his very Very calculated with that kind of thing is while a course. Now be it'd be fascinating fascinating where compete find you if they want to reach out so this all too cold is hopefully going on a few Coaching outlets An organizations to you can find me on twitter and linked in And yeah. I'd love to be able to discuss this. Just raise awareness really of this topic. You know like instead of looking at solutions miles away but just for people to maybe get an appreciation all the importance sharing the experiences. What those other coaches of gone through. And i know. It's a very small pool of coaches in comparison to the industry but for that to be such a powerful opinion that was shed by those coaches but taken from the opinions of other coaches that they spoken to. You can really feel a sense of. Yeah actually this. This might need a bit more thinking overall consideration. Hope you know what you're doing with. Your research means that some of those changes will happen. Pete thanks again always a pleasure to speak you. Welcome to the tribe. Thank you very much. Tim pleasures That's it episode. Four season to pay. And i could go on talking about this and other coaching issues as we regularly take and i hope it sparks and thoughts about competition and your environment. If you have anything to add to this discussion gives us both. Show the music you listen to is by bbc. Phoenix online discography and further details are in the links. Thank you for taking the time to listen. Hope this finds you well and we look forward to seeing you back here again. Next week

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Men in Blazers 01/08/20: Edwin van der Sar Pod Special

Men In Blazers

22:30 min | 1 year ago

Men in Blazers 01/08/20: Edwin van der Sar Pod Special

"This is Rebecca Lowe will rebecca if you listen to sub optimal radio and you on this thing to men in Blazers on the NBC. Sports Network. The this is Raj with a men in blazes pawed special official with a remarkable human being Edwin van. The saw a man who was a hero of mine even before he stepped foot. One after nude you'd in a panic room. Those in play know what I mean. He was a Manchester United goalkeeping legend whenever thing as cerebral tenacious clinical athlete nicknamed each convene March a bit dodgy. English is Robert Blake who revolutionized away position was played assuring familiar of static CRO MAG noman ready to Punt Jenna. Think in the area to the era of modern modern goalkeepers who judge not just on this shot stopping but also distribution the use of their feet their ability to maintain possession and the the pressure after making this show on the Rivera Drain. All the more not just football on the field but the way he's made the subsequent move from the eighteen yard box walks to the directors box so effortlessly becoming CEO of the mighty Dutch power. I ax overseeing that payless pipeline of Golden Golden Youth. Talent Frankie Diong Matt Easter left Donnie Vanderbeek to listen to him is to learn about youth development element by Osmosis this part the director of the TV show. I really love making it. I'M GONNA Wind Mr Them now in twenty twenty so I can experience the wonder of I ask myself but for now to the port my guest. Today it's one of the all time. Greatest goalkeepers to ever take the failed at his twenty one year career one four Premier League League titles for Doug Jarrett busy titles to Champions League trophies. He won all the trophies not to mention of then record one hundred and thirty caps John for the Netherlands. He revolutionized the very position he played. Cherie it from an era of CRO MAG no man to refined renascent thinkers pump retirement. He only became. CEO OF MIGHTY Dutch. Power I xe pound for pound the greatest developers of talent in the global game. It's an honor under joy Roy to welcome to the panic room the legend Mr Edwin van. This'll hello how're you. Doing Com had met Scott. My Yeah we're going to do all of this. In my native language Dutch. You grew up in bold foreign country. Village seven thousand people at told gangly youths. You started off as a defender. The story is one day the goalkeeper wasn't there the coach said you. You're the US going gold. You were late. bloomer an amateur until till eight nine thousand nine hundred did you always believe you play professionally or did you think football was just Hopi some you play at the weekends more like Obi never really my wildest dreams James. I could think that I could make it as goalkeeper or professional Blair let alone the career that a half. Hold onto your dreams. Kids like meet. The Professional Games still could happen. Suli you life. Change Two hundred cards. The story goose then assistant manager my hero. Louis Van Gaal was playing cards hearts. I believe and happened to ask. His card mates casualty. Does anyone know of a rough diamond goalkeeper in the leagues. You'll named Kamer and not long after mighty came calling. Is this story true because took a stroke of fate in its guard group coach eighteen nor was there and he had a big mouth off and he said I gotTa go before you week later. He came and had a look at the invitation for training sessions and have to sign a contract that I so if Louis Van Gaal it had a hand and kept his mind on the college life would have been completely different than it would have been in New York today. Would it dodged dodged bullets. You made your debut as a twenty year old substitute on an unassuming April afternoon in one thousand nine hundred ninety one I x squad the feature Clarence Seedorf. You've arsenal cult hero in the making candy amongst others won the nineteen ninety-five Champions League with a youth filty after seven years of success in the Netherlands. You then moved to Italian giants invented the two years you spent. That one's of struggle you appear to lose confidence mate. What Italians colpepper keep his Aras? Eras how were these two seasons for you to experience personally experienced success with them so everything thoughts turned into gold or silver. Where you want to expand yourself yourself you wanna live your life in your horizons and then you go to Italy and it's a complete different ball game and I make mistakes didn't fit the system and that's where your confidence Lewis Listen? The newspapers start to ride different Holland. Your Nice and relaxing in Italy everywhere. You go people are putting you on today picture kissing and everything or almost Bentsen you and everything when you lose discredit your car. It's a different VIBE. Unfortunately after two years I needed to move on then two thousand and one event a soldier to Fulham and aspirational Westland than club. Club neighborhood club. She career felt like it was winding down Manchester United. Were still struggling to find an for the legendary pita Schmeichal amount need the number one Roy Carroll know in my mind Manchester United Club legend. Tim Howard we're cutting it rude Vanessa. Roy Fellow international a goal machine. He founded career and in two thousand five h thirty four. You became Manchester United's number one talk about culture shock how you handle that shift in mindset eh comfortably. Drifting toward retirement to being thrust into the spotlight scrutiny as a last line of Defense then biggest club in English football. I still have the mission I I wanted to finish on the high and of course it's going to. I would have been an easy option. I came there and felt like a warm bath. Ambition winning mentality performing on the highest level. And that's that's what I craved for six years and I got it. Six years of longing fulfilled young viewers by the way we'll be saying to themselves Manchester United anointed ones. The greatest team will football but it is true false goals Renaldo costs have as my mate Wayne Rooney distinct. This thing capable of blowing opponents failed at any moment in the game the way for over the line to team up second-to-none equality of skulls gigs sniffle Ferdinand defeat. Each made it easy to play with only thing I needed to organize them. A little bit shouts once in a while although that he needed to track back show appreciation that fever when he was twenty twenty one. Yes and no no. I mean I needed to do that. That's also if you need to command the back for have a talented guy. Rio Ferdinand later on each game and then we had a golden triangle. The stereotype we use when talking about goalkeepers is that they're all crazy we used to. I love watching for J. in the tunnel before games just screaming you had they different mental temperament. The Dutch nickname. You ice nine. We almost like whatever I know. Almost dice Rabbe. They'll move ice rabbit. Cool collective not really breaking a sweat and not really shouting defenders. There's just making sure that I set the right words. I coached some left right men on nefer game. We're KUWATA in the emotion of the game. You comb on the outside and you see mild mannered but I love this about you about the competitive fire. That really boom within UTAH. Unusually strong hand. He used to try this true to intimidate opponents by crushing shing. Their thumbs in the pre-match won't play at wins way of getting into our heads by crushing S. A. Silvester Stallone Lincoln Hawk walk as the top level. Dark Arts move with. Is it true or you need to gain advantage somewhere so make sure whatever you really put your hands and make sure you're on there you. Donald trump don't impartial stole my handshake. I think though because for me I found the saw a thumb crusher USO. John Manchester United from November. Eight th two thousand eight until March fourth two thousand nine. You went one thousand three hundred eleven minutes in total at almost twenty two hours without without conceding a goal for about twenty one and a half of those hours I was urging that ball and Manchester United a lot. A lot of people would you weren't three straight league titles and in one glorious night in Moscow two thousand and eight. You were the hair of Manchester United's Champions Victory Against Mighty Chelsea. The game went to a penalty shootout. The Netherlands had exited urine ninety-six. You're a two thousand and the World Cup of one thousand nine hundred eighty on penalties. We've you and go. Would you say it was considered you one great weakness the penalty shootout initially my career of the penalties. Were not my strongest point. So you're gonna see even at an older age you can learn. You can and develop yourself. I could not lose another final on penalties. It was radi late. It was wet of a sleepy. Also luckily we're referring. A Course that infamous slip by John. Terry who had a chance to win it. All for Chelsea with the fifth kick yet hate to see it but he slipped and hit post sending the shootout into sudden death you know he did Zanthosyn and Chelsea Salomon Kalou then each made their kicks. At which point you realize that Chelsea players rule shooting to your left and off the Ryan Giggs may seventh kick. You let Chelsea seventh shooter. Nicolas Anelka no I unio where he was going. I pointed a little bit and I wanted to go. I don't know where you're going is hard. Headed he's stubborn. Want to do it his way I think a forced him to play to the other side and went to your right the opposite. So you'd pointed tape. You always seem to smile while the ball was in the air I saw the ball coming dish on. There's not going to be in the side and that this one is the ideal heights it hit my face. The ball went away. I landed and those three four seconds on top of the world. Your guy everything being draws around you and you see the guys coming from the Front ed or stand guys. It's the greatest feeling essay. McHugh scored a winner in the last minute as a goalkeeping. You never can really win the game. mm-hmm of course you can make sense but this was my opportunity to be in the limelight. And I'm not a guy who looks for attention or that's on the back and everything but to be there and save the bowl and win the champions. He's leaked again thirteen or fourteen years. After my first one that was my mango and drive to prolong my career and play those games and win his Edwin. You peaked at an older age agent. Anyone imagined what lesson did you unorthodox trajectory teach you about life and never give up believing yourself believe in family and France and the group. That's around you and of course question. You have lucky life. Also that somebody comes up with heavy look at that goalkeeper or that position Oh deb layer so I think all of that game together and tremendous six years to finish my career uh-huh and when you broke into the game you thin wiry character. The opposite of Moscow keep has numerous burly. brutes stayed on their line. Love love to punch things whether it was a ball and attacker their own defender. But you redefine that position. You became one of the world's first sweeper keepers. How would you describe your style? Dial to someone that never saw your place magnificent style I actually dominate possession. Fresh high up on the pitch and you need to go keep it also adjust with your back line. You should be on the strings on fifteen or twenty meters and from there on I move defense so was the Imax Philosophy L. legendary philosophy dreamed up by late sixties icon Johann krief and Rina's leanest musicals. They conjured the notion of total football. In which every play a contributed to their Max philosophy of keeping possession. All the things with Guardiola rush loan are famous for. I think started your growth and I actually. We've got you had to be mentally sharp and able to play with your hands but with your feet audits. It gets too boring if you only use your hands so sounds a bit strange everything but to work with the players and collect the ball and the right inside and the final gap up and lays on the left inside little over striker and also being outside of your eighteen yard books intercepting the ball just before our lifestyle my ninety minutes of being a goalkeeper in. I mean you became judged positionally you're distribution and it was a game changer. You and the Great Deejay booth phone were positional revolutionaries. I Love Marcello Lippi. The Great Italian coach. Describe both of your star when he wants admitted boof on was his fantastic star playmaker because his passing was so good. I mean you really changed. The way manages saw goalkeepers not that every ball that I played in my life was to the right color. The value that goalkeeper can bring the defense can bring playing out from the Beckoned Development Blaine style. That's the key for successful teams that you see in the last couple of years. It feels like we're living in a golden age of goalkeepers the hair current incumbent of your gloves at Manchester United. He's amazing with his feet like an NHL goalie my styles also over needed your hands. You can also use whatever possible. Keep the goal out times. He does seem to switch off. I think the first six years Elvis careered united. He became player of the year five times so the show the quality or maybe also the lack of quality in the starting starting eleven that the United Schlecht show many times player of the year is a fantastic goalkeeping struggled last year. And hopefully you can find feet again. Nice word finding feed again at Listen Manchester City just a few more neck tattoos and you have back in the. Yeah that's one or two too. Many there's distribution is unbelievable. How far hits a ball? How accurate not available? The quality of the Absolute Joe is artistry. Yeah that's developed. Okay I needed to really focus. And everything just seems without any effort. He put some ninety yards away. Alison that Liverpool proof that goalkeeper can legitimately be the peace that puts a team over. The top is a big rock into defense. I don't think he's a shelter. Also this it gets on with the job. It's safe and knows she other guy he's doing. His best manage called upon he was their best goalkeeper in the world. Right now I like Oh blocker lady. Madrid's doesn't doesn't the biggest club that makes important to save always organized. He said the LALITA Jordan. PICKFORD breakthroughs retired in two thousand eleven. But that was only only really the halfway point of your career. You're now the CEO of the club that brought you through into football returning like salmon swimming upstream to breed. I I xe a club. Unlike any other in the world they don't look at youth development is just a strategy they've gotten unparalleled tradition in pipeline elite. Talent it's more than the business plan as long as the core value that the club stunned for DNA developing players Young Marco from Buster Frank Rijkaard Artistry Flank Credible hackers and. I actually Amsterdam to be creative. Need to be brave. You need to be dominant. That's what's the youth players are getting also in the DNA especially shelf. Be Confident Blade. Bowl went through. That need to be creative. Come from we all with level. Football is to be created but the thing about to them and football that just avant-garde awed visionary understanding of space and time that doesn't exist anywhere come from before sixteen seventeen hundreds of an inning company. Hold onto small country so if you want onto something we needed to get it. I need to go out. So we may trait over the whole world. Even New York Ed New Amsterdam Your Academy known as to compost the future that's bowl claiming they deliver it puts young players into a competitive coldren from the age of a designed to separate the truly elite future internationals from the merely gifted gift if you're an Imax dream of playing in the grab arena few can but those few have ability equality and the way to play a foodball. That's what we're famous for. That's what we are being to the world. The development of young players not afraid to shine on the high stage twenty ages of Seven and twelve twelve year academy emphasizes. I love this multi. Sports skills like running gymnastics. Judo said the future footballer has true dynamic athletic ability not it's not just one spore all the towing football can be one dimensional. Look to other sports. What can you learn? How can you adjust and how you make even our training programs much better then the past? Listen and learn young Americans I read by Kasame investor. Felt I act head of youth. Recruitment he said we use our academy team more or last not to win games or trophies but to try and develop as many individual play as possible. I love this. You're trying to build individuals. You can win very few. I often the thing here in America with two obsessed too quickly over teams that win. There's two very different things. Actually only team that needs to win must winners the first team. All the is not important doesn't for the Youth Development. It's fun getting better learning to play two or three games in a week because I need to play Champions League leak a national uh-huh. Luckily we don't have that anymore. There the secret strength I X has primarily teams. Is You give your young young players. First team experience primarily teams send dozens out on leaving to ease the man. I asked the free to throw young kids into the defend. That's our philosophy and we need to do difference if we're going to do all the things similar. S United as Real Madrid's as event us. They have much more money so we need to do differently. You Watch your your players thrive and then you sell them on for a Fortune Ironic. Keep them but yeah. They're so good all the on them daffy class into evison homegrown grens stars like Frankie Diong went to Barcelona eighty five point. Five million dollars. Matisse left went to Venter's for an eye-popping Ninety. He's seven point five million dollars one motions honestly. Do you fail when you've sold one of these kids sadness at the world class talent lost or pure joy at the mounds of cash. Place if you asked me would you rather have the money or metaxas listening on the year. Give them a dyson on a year but we are proud through developed a player when Franken go here. It's in your hands now and develop unfair to bring him further on and spread the word about I gave we have to create room. I'm to give the path to the next one. You said if play a stay too long the next one cannot play and the whole thing chokes. You mind immediately goes to the next player coming through now this opportunity to other players. It's a constant renewal of positions of talent or developments aiming the future of the club. We need succession planning to making sure that those players are behind charter. And everybody has an example. If you being right becky. You're aiming at the position on the thirteenth. But the guy behind you and the and the Levins is aiming aiming for your purchases and show. Everybody is striving shutter pushing through and knocking on the door for the head coach to get a chance in the first team. If you shift gate team too much to buy blind and short pipe understood understood full then players are leaving clubs and then you lose. Whatever the connection with the development of the players told them funds who are listening to this? I know what he's talking about. We're here in America. America a nation of three hundred and thirty million people we dream about. JUICING will cross football. We really haven't done so yet. How would you view our inability not from the outside? What are we missing? You probably need to go deep dive in. I think America has too many big sports for boys. Increasing is developing is going to take a little bit more time. I think America America is going up but there's still a lot of improvements and the beauty of European football. The closeness of the football pitches. You don't have that yet. In the states. You have more fubo pitches. Better better coaches better development programs. Then I'm sure a country like as big as this is going to be worthless. They at wholesale possible American hair. I I asked defend a senior senior guests. Eighteen years of age from Alma Netherlands Omega is father is an American servicemen. How would would you describe this prospect? Not Seen as the biggest talent in you set up this year we had a training camp. Were able to to make up the numbers and said you know different. If you do well you get your chance. You take it. And he took it and he's not letting go as a tech minded very quick could think also good cross and he has to go in. Yeah I ex team of overachieved domestically and in Europe consistently won three Dutch titles on your watch reach in the Europa league final in two thousand seventeen a. and within touching distance of law season's Champions League final which is remarkable before spurs spurs oracle won't gives you more satisfaction winning trophies as a player or a C. The architect of the entire operation. Sometimes you miss that feeling if you win a game becoming interested room and your ecstatic as a CEO. Complete different winning the leak gave satisfaction. But those ten seconds Mr Chompy final the heartache that you felt worse than losing the final myself as a player player to be fair because your spouse before the whole organization we've worked so hard to bring back to the European topped it's difficult every around ninety million bedsheets yearly competing against gloves worth nine hundred million Madrid and I think we played them out of the four one with young players late. I I'm in the big stage and performed because it gives me satisfaction and that's something that we hopefully give joy to the world of football or soccer fence around the world is not only about money about development is about giving a chance Jensen a moment to shine. I think not just the football world is better when I act in their rightful place for the world itself is better and I will say Edwin is an honor and a joy to be the player and just as much for what you've done cerebral early in the boardroom. I ask what a club I will say Johan. Cruyff arena is a bucket laced visit for every American football fan. Go there at every opportunity we wish Edwin mood ick courage. Thanks very much. It was a pleasure by the way short obviously.

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Episode 15: Rachel Pienta

How I Got Here with Dave Fiore

1:07:11 hr | 1 year ago

Episode 15: Rachel Pienta

"Before we start a quick note that this episode was recorded in person before the appearance of Cova nineteen any references to group activities. Were well before any of us. Were concerned about social distancing. Please stay safe in. Enjoyed the show that that just kind of drove me this idea of people that there were these people who got to make decisions for everybody else but as a citizen you could be at the table if you chose to be and then why would he be so the idea that people would sit out like not exercise their right to vote not go to government meeting operated newspaper like those things. I learn more about how life worked it. You'll be crazy that other people didn't from your communications. It's how I got here. A show of inspiring stories from Tallahassee area leaders business owners neighbors all the challenges opportunities. Inspirations it twists and turns of life that led them to where they are today. Everyone has a story worth telling and I am really grateful that we get to bring a few of them to you. I truly have been changed by my conversations with these amazing people you will be to. This is Dave Fiore in this episode. I speak with Rachel. The Four H. Youth Development Program Director at the University of Florida's Extension Office in what Color County a native of upstate. New York Rachel Finished High School in Rural Central Florida. Where she says she felt a little bit like Kevin. Bacon in footloose she earned a PhD from Florida State University. His lead organizations run local political machines in his longtime educator Rachel along with her husband David whom she met at a speed dating event gives back to the community in many ways including hosting exchange students from around the world. We started by talking about her early years. So you were born and grew up in Bloomberg New York so I was actually I was born in Middletown which is sort of the larger city centre for that area. Okay and But Bloomberg we moved there. My parents bought a House. Bloomberg which is sort of up the mountain a little bit. This is the foothills of the catskills. So middletown is Very much bedroom community for New York. City catskills is like dirty dancing. Yeah he's Oh totally totally dirty dancing for sure. Yeah so we. We bought a house of Bloomberg when I was about three and we would live there until I was sixteen and the dirty. Dancing is really funny because this is not in my resume anywhere so my dad. I I would describe him as a serial entrepreneur. 'cause he's owned he did own. He's passed away but he owned a lot of businesses but a primary thing throughout his life was working in the field of magic and you created magical illusions and gave lectures on. How did you close up magic? Which he was an expert at so he wrote books and produced videos and gave lectures but the At the time the Borscht Belt catskill hotels were in still pretty prevalent in the seventies and eighties. Many of them have since closed burned down. Become other things but I spent some of my formative years following my dad around those dirty dancing style hotels as he went to magic conventions or did lectures or supported other kind of famous people with their things they wanted to do for their act. Like if dom deluise wanted to pull match out of his smoking jacket and my dad was the guy helped him ruin that happen? Yeah wow so I grew up with. I can remember going out staying at a Particular Hotel with my dad and going out in the morning and The guys with the Tigers Siegfried and Roy. They were. They walked tiger around the pool in the very early morning. Yeah she's going to walk to todd. Pray for that so so that was kind of a different type of growing up because I got to interact with some famous people growing up like David Copperfield and Captain Kangaroo of all people. And there's there's a lesson. Kangaroo Captain Kangaroo Mr Green Jeans Missile Deal Yeah I didn't actually recognize him out of his persona when I first met him. And if you have the sideburns I guess he did but just out of context I it took me a minute to place them and I was like. Oh my gosh it's cutting kangaroo but yes so I got to have some fun experiences like that growing up because of my my dad's working magic so your dad was kind of a magician to the magicians exactly. Actually that was how he was known he was the magician's magician. And if you Google Tim you'd see people talking about that online. That's amazing. It was a pretty cool way to grow up definitely Gave me some different experiences. I you know. Most kids can't claim to be cut in half or suspended on sixteen swords or may disappear. So I I know I've levitated so it's So was he experimenting on you? Developing some of the tricks he would experiment. He would expand his illusions. Yes very good. You must know some. Magicians he would experiment on me also. Sometimes I gave him ideas because I would think he could do anything. So one point. I handed him a quarter and there were different types of tricks where you make things pass through surfaces balloons especially so I want him to put a quarter into a balloon. A Dad you could do that. Put a quarter into the balloon. And he's like actually. I haven't done that that before. But let me let me think about that. And that became a trick. Actually that was distributed by by Disney world for many years called the coin balloons and he developed that. Because of your idea because of my idea because I said daddy do this make make the quarter go through the balloon so it became an illusion. Wow I did not expect. That doesn't show up in a resume. Shit that's awesome. Tell me about the rest of your family. Did you have siblings or family? Like outside of the world of magic and illusion so I had one sister who also actually has passed away but I mean a younger sister five years younger and when we lived in New York we kinda lived in this old rambling. Farmhouse that We had chickens and dogs cats and and and a garden out back because my my mom was a farmer's daughter that was her background and so she likes animals and growing things to this day so we lived in New York and she was a nurse and my dad had businesses with his mother different retail operations than the magic and then my grandparents decided to sell their horse farm and moved to Florida to retire and my mother said you know. I'm Kinda tired of snow. I'd like to follow them. So they actually went in on property together in Florida unbought forty acres and Bushnell down in Sumpter County. Just below Calla. They wanted to be in horse country but not pay. Ocala prices at the time so Between my sophomore and junior year we moved to Florida and that was an interesting transition Florida in the eighties. I thought I was like it was like being Kevin Bacon in. Footloose so I I. It was that between the toilet and so because it was so culturally different at the time. Especially that part of Florida. That's inland rural Florida. Super Super Rural. Said there were things that were culture shock. I mean having grown up as you know quintessential Yankee with a New York accent. I mean my father was from Brooklyn when I was sixteen. I talked a city person and to move to Florida with all these southern accents in a rural area. I you know I was like very exotic and there were things. I didn't a lot a lot to became clear to me about American history. Because Florida was under court. Ordered desegregation dating to the seventies in the eighties. That was really fresh in people's minds and so I was not aware of race. Issues for instance or the idea that the civil war was taught in a different way between the north and the south. I'd never heard the phrase war of Northern Aggression until I was sixteen years old so if a pride of southern history of southern history and this whole different perspective on American history so that was a big sort of consciousness flip for me and my first experience with culture shock. I made some great friends and I actually the year of my coming up on my thirty year reunion but the year my twentieth reunion. I went to my Florida Reunion. Actually help plan my Florida Reunion. And then I went to New York to the kids I had known since kindergarten and part of that reunion offset so I have two graduating classes with the floor in Bushnell. Did it take a while or did you? Did you adapt pretty quickly so I adopted pretty quickly I got into. I'd had some good advice from one of my guidance. Counselors New York. Who said get on? It's a sports oriented highschool get on a sport and getting some extracurricular activities and that will that will be open to everything so when I went and got on the volleyball team became part of the yearbook staff. And then I Actually went anytime. Someone asked me to go to their church group. I went even though. I'm Jewish kid I went to lots of Baptist churches and made lots of friends My sister probably had a harder time. She was starting sixth grade and middle schools. Tough for anybody. That's rough so the move was definitely a struggle for her and years later my mother said if I had known how hard it would be for her. I waited till you. We're both out of high school. Which for me probably would have been super super different. I don't know that I ever would ended up in Florida but I ended up making friends and deciding to go to University of Florida and that was so that the move was formative in a positive way for me. Maybe not so much for Sarah Right. I assume you did well in high school. He made good grades. All that's all that part of it was good I did. I did I always I always struggled with math and science but I made up for it in the other classes. I was very good at English and history and writing and things like that but math and science were always the hard sciences like I could do psychology but like not chemistry and then math was always a struggle but I so I kinda had to balance it out all right. So you're you're finishing up high school and Bushnell and you're doing well and why did you choose the University of Florida? What led you to Gainesville. So I I didn't really want to go that far for my family. I just had this big move and it was like I could move back to New York and I have extended family there but my my nuclear family is here and I was always super close to them. I didn't want to go really far. So I said let me concentrate on Florida's schools and at that point I was like Oh and I have in state tuition down here. This makes sense so I'd I'd towards schools and Was Looking at University of Miami. At that time I was really into communications actually and thought that I wanted to do something with with writing and journalism and Science University of Miami looked at them looked at Florida state Yousaf University of Florida and it was really came down to you You and you F and then I realized that I would by parents probably have to take out a second mortgage for me to go to private. School is a private school. I was like yeah. No I think you make sense closer to home. It's a better financial deal. I think I'm going there and my whole family fell in love with the campus and thought it was really beautiful and at the time Florida state was not beautiful. I I had gone up there for girls. State and the campus was not as as beautifully developed as it is now and so it was sort of seventies industrial looking with lots of woods in the middle of campus. And the the stadium. Was it what it is Dow? Still director still the erector set. So so yeah you. F- looked like a country club by comparison. It'd seemed to make more sense right and you studied English and political science. I did I did. I ended up not going the communications route. I was in college at the time that the Gulf War broke out Desert Storm and journalism changing. And if I was going to college now I think journalists might be more attractive but I but at that time in the in the one thousand nine hundred ninety one it looked like journalism was Just reading someone else's news that didn't really interest me. As I saw things unfold. I started to think more about policy and being interested in that side of things did a internship with then Senator Kirk Patch state. Senator Kirkpatrick went overseas at intern. But the member of parliament like really interesting The he the guy had been invaded by the Queen for his service. So He's in the House of Commons but he was sir. Montgomery sounds very important He thought so so. It was interesting because I got to go into parliament every day with a group of students and Do some different things. And then you're pretty rude to each other. It's much different dynamic. It's amazing to sit in the House of Commons and have them yell at each other. I was there during that chunnel debates when they were going to do that and they were not happy about giving the French easier access to do bit Britain. They thought that was a bad thing that the French were somehow going to take their culture. So did you immediately start pursuing your master's at Florida State? Or did you do something in between Let me think about this inbetween. I spent some time in Washington. Interning for Then Congresswoman Karen Thurman so I did that and then Also took a little break to work at a summer camp in the. Poconos and then I went up to Florida state to do the master's degree and got Got Another policy internship with the House of Representatives. Why why did you choose Florida State for your graduate studies because they Legislature was there basically and I was interested in policy and I thought let me go be where the State Capitol is. And that's going to be the best opportunity for me to get immersed in policy and maybe actually get some hands on experience right. What elements of policy where he most interested in what was driving that desire to learn more about that growing up? In the eighty S. There was at the time there was this like epidemic of teen suicides and my school was hit. My middle school was hit pretty hard with it. It would be like you. You get a bathroom pass and go in the bathroom and there would be some kid in the middle of overdosing and you're in the bathroom and this was just happened over over. Get and some of my friends and I were talking about it. And we're like we don't have we. We see our ABC after school specials that there are like team counseling programs and there appeared programs at our school. Doesn't have anything like that. And when dad marched into the principal's office and said enough is enough. I am tired of finding kids. Pass out in the bathroom. We need to do something. I want to peer counseling program. Am I principal? Looked at me and said let me see what I can do. So that takes a Lotta guts to go in there and do that. Gods are just like no sense of like you know anything except that I could be a bullet a pint China Shop Right Brian. But but I was pretty insistent and they actually the school district actually that principle which the school district on my behalf and actually they hired a Appear Counselor expert for the whole district to develop a program and then they said they were gonNA pilot in the high school. At that time I was still in the middle school at our ninth grade was still in the middle schools because the high school wasn't big enough and they were in the process of expanding it and so. I had pitched a fit because I was like look. We're you know we're having this problem in the school. We need this here. We need to be part of it and so they said okay. Fine you know will will. That eighth graders and ninth. Graders get trained. Also we're kids coming forward to take advantage of the US. Yeah it was pretty mind blowing the stuff that some of the kids were going through and the things that came out like the adults in the room I remember. Were just like really blown away by what was happening. And that influence me to says idea of okay like sometimes policies. Don't take care of all the things and you can look at obeyed to fix them. So is this really early. Formative experiences and say that policy can improve lives because I understood that it was a policy that allowed us to go forward to try to do this so I started being really interested in policy and thinking education policy because in my head it all started with kids like if there was any problem society. We should start with the kids and then go from there because we are going to be the next generation so it would make sense that we were the foundation of everything and so that was sort of like my primary belief going forward. That was trying to figure out. What is my career? Look like if I want to work in that space and you continued on to get your PhD. I did I did. I was always part of the plan. no no I So I was an Undergrad. I thought I was going to somehow become the national secretary of Education and I had no idea how that worked but I still possible. It's still possible Some certain things have to happen. But you see the counselor said you know you you know you wanna work in education policy. There's a lot of different rows to take this and they They advised me at the time to go out and teach right away and get that under my belt and I really wanted to more school so I said I'm going to go. I'm GONNA go to. Fsu and get into their teaching program and then also look because they had the puck. There was the policy program at the legislature and I was really interested in and the first time I applied. It didn't get in but I was. I was like I'm going to try this again. So let me go up to. Fsu apply again. We'll see what happens and the second time I applied I got into the policy fellowship for the legislature. And then while I was doing it I started to think about okay. Well what comes next with policy? I saw lots of people talk about education. Who didn't necessarily know much about it. Except that they like me had been students so I did. Things like reading recovery program at a middle school and just started to try to get more hands on experience. I'd been a camp counselor. I hadn't been teacher per se so I took as many of those opportunities as I could and then as I was getting my master's degree and getting done with my fellowship. I was like okay. What's next and so? I started trying to decide I was like I'm going to go to school more. But either it's going to be a law degree or it's going to be a doctor and in my folks in the legislature that I worked with said we got tons of lawyers up here. Go get your doctor so that really influenced me after you've got your doctorate degree you. Where did you go after that? I worked during my doctorate degree actually so Iran and after school program during for a while during my my doctoral degree For Elementary School for it was a Florida state program and so I was there after school program director and then I got the chance to teach at the university as part of my graduate program so I started teaching classes I taught at. Tc Florida M. F. issue Walden University and Kaiser College row at different times so some traditional I did some of the early online education and before it was really a big thing so I was sort of a pioneer with that about twenty years ago so enjoy that I did a different experience. It's a very different experience. And actually is what I ended up doing with Valdosta state for five years when they started graduate online program. In what do you take from that time of teaching and all those different places in different ways well? Gosh I did a lot of traditional teaching between TC and FSU in you. And I still know a lot of those students today and seeing where they are in their career is really neat sometimes getting to help them things with things in their professional life because some of them still call on me is really awesome. It's nice to be able to still have that impact I also Have Really Fond memories of the four years I taught at high school and I coach soccer and I taught ap literature so. When does that fit in? When is that you were at what color high so I got a job at local high school right after I finished the doctoral program and so that was That was oh five two. Oh nine what was it like teaching Cohi- interesting culture shock? At first also I. There were different culture than Bushnell culture somewhat similar to Bush now and in many ways but different than what I had been living in in Tallahassee. Right and now we'll call over. The last fifteen years has become a little more like Tallahassee but in oh five it's still held a lot of it's very rural character. Wasn't that long after the net. The net band had really decimated the fishing culture in McCulloch so there were a lot of families in transition so there were different things that were happening in that county that we're changing their way of life and the children were experiencing that right coastal will county is even different than Crawford. Ville it is. There's a wide variety of situations. There is a wide variety of situations. So there were things that. I didn't realize about families living on the coast. Who might be living in some more primitive living conditions at that point who had been living pretty simple lives on the water or farming. Doing things that were a little bit from the more you know. Modern Tallahassee experience so getting to experiencing that and understanding that difference was Was a learning curve. That first year I then really came to appreciate those kids. A lot and really loved loved working with Loved coaching loved seeing kids. Figure stuff out and decide what they wanted to do with their lives. All right so I saw on your resume that you worked as a methodology and doctoral adviser at Walden College idea. I have no idea what that means. So yeah so Walden University is part of laureate education. It's actually international system of colleges and universities so worldwide. At the time where I was looking at going back into university teaching I had looked at a bunch of different places and so I had that K twelve teaching. They told me to have but they said Oh. Well we'd really like you'd have doctoral advising now to see the game changes you know so I was like. Oh I don't have that so Valdosta state was willing to hire me. But they weren't teaching me. They weren't hiring me to teach with doctoral students. They the highest level were. Eds education specialist. So I said I gotta get some doctoral advising experience and Walton said. Well we need people to advise people working other. Edd's their education doctorates. And I was like. Okay let's do it so now we moved into another phase two thousand ten two thousand eleven where according to your resume. It kind of blows up. As far as activity in things you're involved in those include things like serving on the color democratic executive committee in several roles including county chair. And so I wanna ask you about that. How did you get into politics? And what was your motivation in? What what did you do with a little Color County Democratic Party? Oh Gosh so. The political thing goes back to my childhood because I had relatives you served in different elected positions on town councils and school boards and things like that back in new so I always had this interest in politics and then As a college student I had been involved in politics working on campaigns and also student government so and some some of the Democratic Party in College. I volunteered like further state conference and stuff but I had taken a break for it for a while during my graduate studies My parents always talked about politics growing up when I was little. My first memory of presidential election was being a very small child and when Jimmy Carter was running and my parents really liked Jimmy Carter. They're like he's a peanut farmer from Georgia and he's going to be our president and I just thought that was the greatest thing ever 'cause I mean he's a peanut farmer. He sounded really cool because I was five. So finally makes peanuts right. I like peanut butter. This is great so yes years later actually told President Carter that after he was President I met him later on and he thought that was pretty funny. He's like he's a great great. We all like peanut butter. So why why? Do you think you always had an interest in politics. What what drove that. I was just fascinated by the idea of governance and policy. It was just really interesting. This idea of people being interactive with their government. That you could have a voice that you could make things happen. And just as a young age I started just reading all these different things about government and policy and thinking that was really interesting. My parents by dodds specifically talk to me a lot about government. You know he was a young man of course during Watergate and all those things that happened in those were formative for him and his understanding of politics and policy so we had a lot of deep dive conversations growing up about government in his philosophy of while. You always have to question your government. And you don't take for granted anything that they do. Just because someone's an authority doesn't mean they're right and you should question that now that said I did apply that in terms of my interaction with him and I told him you told me to question authority and he said I didn't mean me appearance for different. I was like wait a minute. Wait a minute that doesn't make any sense but that that just kind of drove me this idea of people that there were these groups of people who got to make decisions for everybody else but as a citizen. You could be at the table if you chose to be and then why wouldn't you be right so the idea that people would sit out like not exercise their right to vote not go to government meeting not read a newspaper like those things as I learn more about how life worked. It drove me crazy. That other people didn't do that like what's wrong with you. Why not which is one of the reasons if getting into party politics wise well can? I convince other people to do this because they should be like people fought really hard for us to have the right to vote and for us to have this representative form of government. And like I used to tell my teaching colleagues. Hey our profession is one that is totally policy driven and as citizens you can impact the policies that basically govern your work life. Why wouldn't you be involved in politics and makes sense? Yeah it's just so for me it was just. It was started this thing that like this make sense to me. Why doesn't anyone else get it? Like how can I help them get it so that really got me into to getting more into politics Then you jumped back in. I don't Beck in. Yeah when I lived in Leon County. I sort of visited politics But Leon County is very different beast a politics and there there are some strong personalities up here and I when I was in graduate school I was mostly watching and lurking and occasionally like helping out if somebody called me with something and then when I got to call up because it was smaller and the personalities were different. I said let me get back in and I didn't tell anybody I'd been involved. I didn't tell anybody my political resume and I started getting involved. Actually got Actually got kind of outed. Right after the Election Maya Then party chair was going to a state party meeting and was sitting around talking about people who were active in her local party that she was hoping to bring in the leadership and then she threw my name into the ring and everyone who was state officers around the state there were like she's in your county and she's like do you know who she is and what she's yeah. She came back from the state meaning and called me up and said you have been holding out on me and I was like. That's smart right. You want to come in there and say look I you know. I'm the one with all the experience. Let me start running the show. No nobody wants to know exactly and I. Yeah so I wasn't going to do that. I was Kinda like I'm new here. I'm just GONNA be rank and file and do which needs to do and when you got out and so it was over at that point at that point it was kind of like. I guess to step up and do a little more. Enjoy that where you ready to do that. I was ready to do that. I was ready so When it came time for me to jump into the role of being the Democratic Party chair I was. I was ready to do it so that was a lot of fun. I got to do. Some interesting things Read the timeline. Right that's right at the time of President Obama's reelection yes. I got super involved in President Obama's reelection in are you involved in party politics now so I have Different Phase I am involved but in a different way so I decided to when I left working Valdosta state and I went to work for the American Cancer Society I to phase out of having a leadership role in party politics because I had many counties in the panhandle that I was working in where I was no and I wanted to have the American cancer society walk in the door not the Democratic Party so I had to step back because that was You know cancer. Cancer should be purple right cancer. Shes it's so and I needed to be able to work across the aisle and have people who weren't Democrats have confidence in me so I said I. I stepped down as chair. Kept my state committee women position and then ultimately sat. I'm not going to be state committee women anymore. I'm at I'm at that phase again where people call me. I do stuff but at this point I actually probably help as many Republicans as I do. Democrats and it's I think as I've grown older and things have changed and national politics. It's become more about the people in the communities than straight party line ideology right which is not conducive to me. You know leaning local party because you have to be straight PARTY LINE IDEOLOGY AND I. I'm not going to say I'm totally post party because I'm still a registered Democrat But I actually at times have changed my registration to vote in a Republican primary in that in bringing you know to where I am now for the American Cancer Society where I you know being based at a Tallahassee but having fourteen counties and how basically the panel Mike my territory but from Madison all the way over to Bay in Washington County. And so. That's a lot of. It's a mixture of blue and red territory right so I didn't able to go to any county commission and each chamber any rotary as it were and not have them say oh. She's that democratic operative. They need to say she's The lady with the American Cancer Society so I really worked hard to kind of you know move myself out of one space into another and then have used that down my role with you because I have developed across the Party line relationships and so you know there are people who know. Yeah she you know she just. She goes deep way back into democratic politics but then they also say but it's funny because I'll be like she's not like that whatever that means. I don't know I don't get compliment. It could be a compliment or not but that said I have been. I welcome in more rooms than I might have been at one point so to say that this episode is sponsored by locally loved Tallahassee formerly socially love. I'm excited to have a partner. That has the same general goals of sharing great local stories in can benefit from reaching our audience. Their focus is to love where you live by sharing some smart safe ways to love local even if it takes a few extra steps right now. Supporting our neighbors is always the right choice. I encourage you to be part of their new facebook group locally loved Tallahassee focused on celebrating local people in places. Join the thousands including me. You were already on board in sharing stories about what makes a Hassi so special in two thousand fourteen when he started with the American Cancer Society. And you're there for four years. It's about three years years and I saw that you raised more than four million dollars for Cancer Research Time. That must be pretty fulfilling for you. And that's it. Sounds like a great accomplishment. It is it is and it's working with the American Cancer Center. I had been a volunteer with the American cancer. Society for Years Prior Have Lost Way too many family members and friends to cancer Including my my sister to liver cancer and so working Were he the American cancer? Society was just deeply deeply personal because I know my sister died when she was thirty. One and my my nephew was four. Yeah that was a big. You know of anybody. I've lost a cancer. Lost few that one is the one. That's the sucker punch for me and So to actually work in that space for every day for three years Deeply emotional at times really hard for me but also really fulfilling job. What what did he do so I did. Something called senior market manager which is equivalent to Executive Director another nonprofit so my job was to sort of keep all the balls up in the air. Be The person who interacted with government would see IOS with the press. I negotiated media contracts. Tried to be a rainmaker for my field staff. You were doing event. So basically saying they'd be out in the community working and they'd say I wa. I can't get into this business or I get this government official the talk to me then I would be the one who could open the door for that and make things work better so they could throw a successful fundraising event. And so then. I also did some work with our governmental affairs staff as the being the Tallahassee based manager than I could go into the legislature with them on their lobby days and have those relationships and help them get the volunteers into the right offices to have conversations that we needed to have about research funding right. I can imagine giving your history with the disease that there must have been very fulfilling. I mean it's you're doing good work no matter what your history has been understanding how personal it is must have been you feel good about it because it's hard but you were making a difference that had to make you feel good it it did. Make me feel good Actually got offered the job on the anniversary of my sister's death so that was like this sort of lightning bolt like okay. I is God the universe. Whatever you think is talking directly to me right now so that kind of that that sort of set the tone probably from my whole experience there that it was You were supposed to. I was supposed to be there and it was deeply personal and we've made leaps and bounds in fighting cancer. The recent numbers on that are showing that we are winning the fight which means that we're catching cancer earlier. And that when we catch it we're able to basically treat it more effectively so not only. Do We cure cancer. But we also make it possible to live very healthy. Fulfilling lives with cancer for far longer than we ever could. So knowing that I was part of fat and seeing things is super super fulfilling meaningful. That said now that I have moved on from that I also Realize that not crying every week at work is a bonus. So like yeah. I don't know that I could've I've France you've worked for that Organization for many many years and I. I think that they must. They must control their emotions better than me. Because I could be a Sabi mess at times I can imagine so. Yeah it was so yes so now. I get to work with kids and animals and I don't cry every week. It's really nice. Well let's get it. I want to back at some point to. I'm going to go there first and we'll get into the office okay. I'm not sure where this fits in but I don't want to skip over you work with the center with Anti Bullying Task Force and some of the things that you've volunteered with over the years When did that happen? And how did you get involved in? Tell me about your your desire to work on some of those okay so obesus so in graduate school. I've fallen tiered with refuge house. I went through their volunteer training. And when I did it I said I WANNA do the hardest volunteer job. They have like one that seems to me to be the hardest and at the time what struck me is. The hardest was being the person who one of the volunteers who carried at the time of beeper. Right that tells you how long ago that was to carry a beeper to respond to rape calls at the hospital so you would go in and be a victim. Volunteer victim advocate with someone who had been rapes. And you would be there through their exam and also through a evidence gathering by law enforcement so I had done that For about Gosh for years volunteer with Refuge House and then had gotten a little bit involved also with their fundraising and community outreach and so got to know all the staff including at that time the executive director Kelly Audie and she when she decided to move on refuge house. There was a big dinner for her and at that time. She announced her idea of having a women's center in Tallahassee. She had a lived in other places that had had one but Tallahassee did not and that was sort of her dream was the Tallahassee could have a center for women and girls and at that point. Actually we all pull that our checkbooks and wrote her initial checks day at the at the lunch and that it took a few more years but she made oasis happens so when it happened. I said sure I will sign up to be a founding member and make a donation to be part of those original people to get it started so that That it was near and dear to my heart and got to volunteer closely with that for a while still support it but not not as closely as I did discuss. There's a lot of things out there that I support and you also worked on an anti bullying task force. I did so I had been really concerned about the issue blink for a while Before I was a teacher seeing in the media but then as a teacher seeing that that bullying was really having an adverse effect on some of our kids and that it was this strange dynamic and that it was being amplified by social media and so there were some high profile national cases that came out around the turn of the last decade and we had some things that happened in Tallahassee with it as well so people people had approached then state representative Michelle wrinkle Veselin about getting task force going and I had known Michelle for years. We worked together. Tc and then. I supported her when she ran for office that first time and so when she convened a Task Force I sat up going to go and volunteer and jumped in disarray programming with her and then had some different ideas about how to how to bring the out in the community and Michelle really likes that direction and said. Let's let's do these things right so final job. Jump to where you are today. Yes thousand seventeen. You started at the University of Florida Office Extension Office and Will Cohen County. It did so I was some basic stuff. What does stand for Institute for Food and Agricultural Science? Okay and they're all over the State University of Florida as an office in every county in Florida. Interestingly it really got started because policymakers at the time said that Innovations in agriculture. Should really start with Youth and the ideas if you teach the latest and greatest about growing food and how to work with livestock to children than they would bring that out into their communities seems logical seems logical seems logical and. I don't know if you've noticed a pattern at all but that really aligns with what I believe about education. So so Yeah Yeah it's GonNa while they're young. Get him other young exactly. They make them be lifelong learners and innovators. And you know who knows what can happen. And so your specific role. There is the four H. Youth Development Program Director. Yes what does that mean? So I get to I get to run the the youth the four fridge youth programs. And that means I get to recruit and train and supervise volunteers. That help me run those programs so there are some different ways that we deliver four H. Youth Programming. We do that in big programs that are multi county regional statewide and those tend to be very much faculty driven and then we do community clubs which are run by members of the community who are trained by faculty meeting the Four H. Staff and that we We give them curriculum. We give the resources we help. Support them and running a community club that aligns with some area of interest that have now For each of the United States over six million children participate in these activities. That's an over two hundred thousand in the state of Florida and it is the largest It's the largest use Irving Organization. Not In a nonprofit lives at land grant institutions across the country. So it's different universities in every state. So do you know what the four? H. IS STAND FOR HEAD HEART HANDS AND HEALTH. So that's pretty representative of the scope of the services and programs. They hit one of those areas. Which yes which means. It's pretty broad. I tell people almost anything you could imagine you're be interested in somewhat in four. H is probably working in that area somewhere bright. It's really all encompassing the ideas that we use these different activities to develop youth to help us realize their full potential Somebody has an interest in something they don't really know where or how to pursue that for. H. Often provides that yes opportunity. They can't one of my colleagues says to me that He works primarily with kids who work with cows and he says well my the kids think that they're trying to get blue ribbon heifers he said but I'm really developing blue ribbon kits and that's really the whole idea behind four H. Is that whatever? They're interested whether it's archery or cooking or computer coding. It could be anything like that could be government. They actually do government civics program but the subject area is really just a means to have kids develop their interest and develop their skills right and of course. One of the best known programs is the four H. Tropicana speech contest. Yes so do you have a direct role in the county wide Tropicana speech contest for call the county and actually my our teachers so it's a it's a collaborative effort the schools so it's fourth fifth and sixth grade and the schools. I sent them out materials every year. Say Okay are you a student at the share and the teachers say okay. Well we're going to run it during this time. And they come up with school winners and the school winners than participate at the county level which I actually put on the whole thing for the county and then they go to district competition and the district competitions the terminal part of the competition. I just want to stop here before I go on to before hitting this other stuff. How did you find the time? How did you manage your life and find the time to do all these things seemingly all at the same time? Seems like a lot who yeah? It's funny I've been asked about that a few times in my life sometimes generally sometimes it a job interview like are you serious right. They're like why why? Why do you run around into all this and that can be a really hard question to answer you know as a single woman it was? Your time is very different right so it doesn't matter if you decide that you're gonna three hours a night or something and it doesn't matter if you're getting dinner on the table right. What matters eventually eventually yeah catches up with you? Sure Yeah to anybody for your time. You're feeling up your day. How you want to do exactly so I didn't meet my now husband until I was thirty one so my twenties. It was wide open. Let me go do anything I want at any time and I did that. And then Once I met my husband got married started to have more structure to my time and that that did change my approach somewhat That said I I ended up marrying someone who also takes on a lot of things who is similar in their perspective to life and we Let's talk about David. Let's talk about Dave about your husband. How how did you meet? We met at a speed dating event at the old Buckhead Brewery. So Yeah Who put that on Some company that professionally puts on speed daycare. Yeah so it was a company that was operating at the time and they traveled around to different cities to do this and it was advertised on the radio and the newspaper and at that time I was single I was coming out of a four year serious relationship I'd lived with someone who considered getting married didn't work out and was back on the market as it were and looking around and decided that's different. I'd I'd seen it on. Tv like in movies instead or something. Let me go try that. And he was in a similar situation he'd been in a long distance relationship and that had it worked out and so now he was on the market as well so he had gone and so we met that night and the way they ran it was the woman sat at the chair and the with the bell rang after certain amount of minutes. The men moved around the room right now. The funny thing for me is that at that point I had. I'm thirty one. I'd lived in Tallahassee since I was twenty two twenty three and I knew people I knew some of the men in the room like really. This cuts down my pool. This is terrible. I actually didn't even know from Tallahassee. They had moved here from Gainesville from my past. That was like wait. What are the odds of this? Why do I have this? This is crazy so that end up in front of you. Yes they they all come so that was just crazy but but David came in front me and we had the best conversation and we talked about. Roller coasters liking amusement parks and roller coasters and going to rock concerts and horseback riding and we just laughed and how to type so when we know how does it work like each other. You get to actually go on that point. You went on a website after the night and you marked who you lights so you say like absolutely asa may be earn. No and I said Yeah I said Yes for him to be matched up so that was the Thursday night on a Saturday morning. We got our matches and how to contact them and I said I'm going to contact him. I could go ahead and make the first move and so we had our first first phone conversation that Saturday night and we decided to meet for a date. Sunday had our first day at Kabas. Nice choice it was a it was a great choice that place and yeah we basically have been together ever since so that was it. There was no doubt. Yeah it was. We decided by November that year that we were looking at marriage and he proposed that was met late. June two thousand three like a week before fourth of July and we he proposed Valentine's Day. Oh four we were married. August of four. Well so I know this from a facebook memory post that popped up online where David proposed to you on Valentine's Day yes at Disneyworld at the contemporary grill. Which is the top of the Contemporary Hotel Will You? The monorail runs do that futuristic. So the restaurant there is got all like glass surrounding windows so you can see the castle the fireworks so he proposed around the time the fireworks going off and this waiter came out with a silver domes platter and opens it up and there's a crystal slipper with a little a betting ring and on the plate. It said. Will you marry me and chocolate and David for that? Yeah Yeah it was definitely various Disney treatment. It was the full Disney treatment and yes super romantic. I kind of tease him. I was like that may have been the most romantic thing you know. You've managed start. I was like you know you kind of set the bar high for yourself downhill from. Yeah yes I I can't. I have not expected him to pull off anything. That like. You know amazing although although he did yeah it is pretty good although he did actually give me a surprise party the night after the president the Vice President Biden dinner. He threw a surprise party for me for my fortieth. That did surprise me. So that's good. So tell me about him. What is he like? Dave is a lot like me and that he likes to be involved in the community serving others. He's been a sports official the whole type of known him. He is a certified ham radio operator and when we first met one of the things that we did together was actually volunteer with the Red Cross. So we did some disaster response together. That's very cool. So superfund really interesting experiences and Then with his sports experience. We actually helped me coach soccer when I was a soccer coach. So that really cool and then He decided that he wanted to Comes from a military family and was in. Rotc all through high school started rotc in college with the idea that he would follow into services like his father his father had been in the Air Force and then decided in college that military life wasn't going to be for him but that idea of service and putting on a uniform I think state with him so later in life Later than most people do he decided to go to law enforcement academy and be got his credentials and now serves as a reserve deputy with county in fact he discussed molded last year to being a sergeant for the reserve unit. I wish he had another hobby that didn't involve putting on a bulletproof vest because there's that aspect to it. I never thought about being a law enforcement wife. But that's a real thing both for sure. So yeah there are times when I'm like you know me. Every time he walks out the door pretty much every time so there are times visit everytime walks out the door. There's the idea that like you know. Maybe he's not coming back or he could get hurt and is That is heart-stopping for sure. So but it's a big part of who he is. We Love we just love. Deeply deeply loved local. The county and getting to serve a lot of different ways has become a big facet of our up how we spend our time and our lives. Speaking Service County you've also served as president of the Chamber of Commerce came you know Your year with up not long ago yes now immediate past president which is the best title in the best title in the world of so I still get to sit in those executive meetings But yeah I got to. I got involved I Guess I got elected in twenty eleven to serve on the board of directors and then started my service in two thousand twelve and then became involved on committees and service and was asked to become part of the executive board and I ended up serving in every role on the executive board. So I've been secretary treasurer vice president etc on up to becoming president said that serving in a little different way when you're working on behalf of the business community and talking about economic development and protecting natural resources and it is the balance of all that is is very different But I it's another facet of my passion for the county so getting to work on behalf of the business community also nonprofits. We have nonprofit members and government members. So it's really a way that the community kind of comes together and then also getting to work in that role with Economic Development Economic Development Council. Okay shifting gears a little bit WanNa touch on some of the ways you've been recognized in the community. Oh Gosh okay sure again. There's been a lot so we can't can't hit them all just some highlights. I'm you've been a finalist or one. Many local in prestigious awards including the Red Awards from Tallahassee Woman magazine Distinguished Leadership Awards from Leadership Tallahassee volunteer of the year from Tallahassee Democrat. Twenty five women. You need to know and several awards related to work with the fraternity so just want to get an idea of what those words mean to you. What it means to be recognized for your involvement and activity and and I know it feels good. But you've done a lot and it. It's it's gotTa be nice that people recognize your involvement and your commitment to making your community a better place. It definitely is. It's absolutely nice to be recognized It's an honor. It's like a humbling thing. 'cause a lot of times you're getting recognized by these things but it's also in conjunction with other people so you get to hear these other stories and sometimes that's really humbling because you're like. I'm in the same space as these other people. They're really amazing. And there's a little bit of Imposter Syndrome there sometimes where you're like. Oh should be here because that thing that those other people did man that just sounds way. More amazing of course. Everybody feels that way so I guess I don't know I'm not. I'm not those people so I totally rock exactly that they could. They could be doing that for all. I know I don't know Yeah so there's that moment where you're like. Oh Wow that story like I used to tell people before. I was honored by distinguished leadership award that I loved going to that event just because I was always just blown away by the stories. I often like to Sit Back and be quiet and watch when I can and not always be that person and says sometimes it's a weird juxtaposition like people don't believe me when I say that I'm an extrovert introvert. But I also I really like to be sitting at home reading the newspaper with my on my lap having a cup of coffee in my PJ's and fuzzy slippers like I. That's one of my favorite things to do in life and yet I don't always have a Lotta time to do that. And a lot of. That's my fault obviously. I also don't WanNa leave without talking about your involvement with rotary. I know it's important to me over the years and that you host exchange students and your hosting one now so tell me about rotary and wet that relationship with with that group means to you so my involvement with rotary actually goes back to long before I was an actual member when I It it along the way various service activities I first encountered rotary when I was evolved with Tallahassee Parrot. Head club and one of the members at that point was general was not on my resume. I know actually I loved. Jimmy Buffett. Let me just say that but right so but that club is they do service. In addition to listening to Jimmy Buffett and drinking margaritas. They also do a lot of service so one of the things we did was was to go serve a meal out at the camp like rotary does now but the tally para hit club did it for years as well so that was my first involvement and then as education professor. I had the chance to you Send students to different placements for experiences and I would bring students out there to also do a night of serving and playing with kids and doing activities so I had had that experience and then when I says Rotary Youth Camp with Rotary Youth Camp. Yeah so that was my sort of my experience with rotary and then when I became a high school teacher The high school needed an adviser for the interact club which is the Rotary Club. Basically so I became the faculty adviser and got to go to Rotary Meetings. In that respect the reason that we decided to get involved was dave came to an with me and there was a rotary student there at the time from Austria and he met her and heard more about the program and sat. We should do that David. I haven't had kids if our own we've Been VERY INVOLVED IN RAISING OUR NEPHEWS. Since my sister died passed back eight and so you know no kids at home but we like kids. We've always been involved with kids. We didn't have any of our own. So we said we could host and so we started doing that and Dave loved it and decided he wanted to get more involved in ultimately became a rotarian. I was the rotation he had never been one but the exchange program is really. What got him to be a rotarian. We're of your students been from Japan Brazil Croatia and now Taiwan. Her name is shing Han but while she's in the United States she goes by the name of Jean Together. We just we just love it or final two questions looking back. What is one person or thing that has changed or altered the trajectory of your life? There's been a few pivotal things that have probably happened. That sort of made an impression especially like losing a few people. Your what has has been really formative. I lost a best friend my freshman year of college. My childhood best friend and she was back in New York but we were still very close and actually left college for a few weeks in January of ninety one to sit by her bedside She had severe asthma and had an asthma related heart attack and I was horrible. She was She would've turned actually buried her on her twentieth birthday. Her family asked me to be part of making the decision to end life support. That's a lot to put on you. Yeah Yeah I mean I was not not even nineteen yet and I still get emotional. Oh Gosh And she had been my best friend from elementary school through then and Fat was that was a huge impact on me just in terms of thinking about think. Bisley kind of thinking the perspective of all the things that she didn't get to do that. We talked about so in some ways when we in some ways when we talk about me doing lots of things I there was probably my twenties. There was there was a thought in the back of my mind that Lisa wasn't going to do any of these things so I was doing it for doing it for both of us that there were times when I had that thought and So that was something that was really impactful. And probably maybe push you know my limits. Because she wasn't going to get to do thanks so that that would be the first one beating my husband. He's has been a bait major trajectory changer. I don't know I don't know that I would have stayed in Tallahassee. If it weren't for Dave Might have taken opportunities to go somewhere else but it made sense for us to make our lives here. I I in Tallahassee and then and we'll cola yeah then losing my sister right hugely impactful because Like it may made me choose. Valdosta state to do online education because of the flexibility gave me. Because I was then able to volunteer everyday in my nephew school in Tallahassee and ultimately became a PTA president. Because I was there every week and In that my work with the American Cancer Society so yeah losing her was hugely life changing. It's interesting that some some of your life activities are a way to honor those that you loved and cared about in your life. Yes very very much so and I have to say I don't. I don't think if you ask me this again. In five years I would probably say that. Might that losing my father because we lost him in twenty thirteen and that I find myself going back to things that he said or did or thinking about like what would he say about what I'm doing now? And Yeah that's how I think at some point that I'll be looking back and thinking that that he did influence influenced some things that I have done. I can see that coming now but I don't think I have full perspective on. The podcast is how I got here so we talked about how you how you've reached this point in your life. What do you think your life will look like in three to five years from now? Given given how my professional life has been going it does seem like I'm on a three to five year cycle of some major changes of Kinda hoping that maybe that levels out a bit I like I like where I add in will county right now like I think if I had the chance to become extension director over the department I work for. I would be interested in that if the opportunity was available otherwise for h there's a lot of work to do with four. H. And I can. I can picture myself working with four H. Until I retire I think they'll be opportunities with the county as call a county grows also for me to continue by service so I I'd visioned to a more of that but it's really. It's hard to project for certain things. I know what David myself to stay healthy and keep hosting exchange students and then anything else probably depends on what happens with politics because depending on. Who's doing what can can implement. Sometimes what I decided to do. That was Rachel Pieta whether it's inspiring a new magic trick encouraging a student or providing assistance after a storm Rachel has always been committed to making a difference in our community is a better place for it. Thanks for listening to the show. You can subscribe at Apple. Podcast spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. And while you're there please leave us a review. It really does make a difference. Thanks to my amazing staff at fewer communications. Who Pick up the slack. While I'm working on these podcasts into trey bloom for composing our theme music you can hear more of choice creations of facebook and Instagram at Choy Loo music to connect with the podcast. We're suggests a future guests. Follow us on social media or emails at podcast at Fiori. Communications DOT COM.

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CACOVID Plans 4m Jobs, N150bn Youth Devt Scheme

Newscast - Africa

01:20 min | 5 months ago

CACOVID Plans 4m Jobs, N150bn Youth Devt Scheme

"Yoenis signing to the news office. Our on africa business radio. The coalition of covid nineteen has unfolded plans to commit over one. Fifty billion naira to set up an implement a youth development program to support the federal government's job creation. Dr khalid said the youth development program would provide technical and vocational education. To over four million. June us over the next five years fails one build plante to raise and spend a hundred billion naira over the next two years to renovate and by rifles as well as other security gadgets for the monterey police force with special focus on the forty four police stations destroyed by hotel rooms in the wake of the songs. Protest against police brutality co-chair cacao vida central bank governor. Mr gandhi said preliminary analysis indicated that unemployment particularly amongst the youth was a critical factor behind the recent unrest experienced in some parts of the country. And that was the knees at this time. When africa business radio you can continue to listen. Live online at stompie you. Ww dot africa business radio dot com or via amicable app. I'm rachel she gender. Thank you for listening.

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Keeping Kids Learning in Summer - Especially During COVID-19 As Some States Spike in #'s

Faith Health & Home

12:52 min | 10 months ago

Keeping Kids Learning in Summer - Especially During COVID-19 As Some States Spike in #'s

"Welcome to the faith held and home digital podcast I'm your host Makeba Giles here? We share information and resources for physical emotional and spiritual well-being to help families living inspire lifestyle and encourage healthy living. Thank you for joining us. Summer learning loss combined with the Riley. com schooling during the pandemic could deliver educational double-whammy for millions of children and teens. If it wasn't already hard enough to learn from home, the son change in socialize and daily routines, the inability to access education, food, security, and potentially unsafe, emotional or physical environments can make it challenging for some students to maintain. Here now with some solutions during national, summer, learning. Week is Chrissy Chin senior. Director of youth development programs at boys and girls clubs of America. Thank you so much for joining me today. Thanks so much for having me. Now I Christie Toss, how bad do we think summer learning loss is going to be this year especially on the hills of several weeks of homeschooling. Typically Summer Learning Lot describes the phenomenon that when you are out of school, and they're not practicing feels they recently learned. They lose some of those skills. It's kind of a bitter. Luthan idea meaning that when they start school in the fall, they may not performance well on a math or reading tests if they would've at the end of the previous school year, so that's typically what we think of as summer learning loss, covid nineteen has introduced many more challenges for you wall. Schools pivoted really quickly to distance learning. Learning or virtual instruction, many learners struggle to build academic and social emotional skills through virtual instruction the way they would in person, and there's that loss of typical academic experiences and environments. There's also the absence of the social and emotional connection that students get with their friends, and with teachers, and with the school community, and then the attic reality that a lot of young people who've experienced trauma over the last few months whether they know someone who got sick, or we lost a job, or they're feeling accumulated strengthening diety Over the past even and so for all of those reasons. covid nineteen is posing a threat to learning and I think we need a really responsive youth centered learning approach ought to respond to those challenges. Absolutely now until Chrissy, what happens to at risk? Children because you mentioned that now this summer programs such as those that are boys and girls. Clubs are now available because of the pandemic. Similarly Gold Boys and girls club all quickly pivoted from primarily serving youth in person, can now serving youth virtually as well or in safely distanced in person programming So when we when we think about youth who are at risk right now during the pandemic so good nineteen really highlighted and exacerbated some existing. Young people who were covid nineteen didn't have access to station environment at certain times to nutrition to health care to educational support to Wi fi. pre-coded. Inequality have have really been exacerbated. and boys and girls clubs are are working to. Assess the needs of their local community and then respond as best they can by offering connection support. Tutoring Neal's outdoor Wifi in some cases on, so they're. They're working to identify close gap for all young people, but especially the young people that make. Absolutely now you talked about what boys and girls clubs are doing right now. Key dive a little deeper to into that, and regardless of the details of exactly what you're doing because I'm just like before the pandemic people were able to come to you, and like you said now with everything's closed everyone spread out so I'm tell us how you're reaching. Those children who are in the cities, boys and girls clubs who are spread out all over the city. Right, though it then very inspiring and humbling to see how innovative local boys and girls clubs of Ben when it comes to reaching, you who can no longer show up in person to club the virtual programs that clubs have set up and offered. You are providing opportunities for young people to continue to connect with their friends continue to participate in the activities that bring them joy and also. Also help them to build academic and social and emotional skills, and so we've seen virtual dance classes. Virtual art programs virtual engineering programs virtual leadership programs for the whole spectrum So what boys and Girls Club they're doing. Are there leading connection I'm sort of starting with social and emotional wellness, and we're grateful for partners like colts who have really invested in social and emotional wellness in the club. they're offering high yield activities, either virtually or in faithfully distant setting so that wherever young people aren't. They can continue to have great experiences. And then they're planning for are really youth centered approach so that they can both offer enrichment so that young people can find them pursue their passion, but also offer support though that if there are some gaps in students understanding they have a chance to fill those gaps into drinking and some of the go. That's good to know now we know about the push to get school started back. Sooner rather than later. Even though I'm the numbers for this spending, continue the change every day up. Tell us how our boys and girls clubs preparing for these changes. Will you continue to offer these same virtual supports Even what school returns in our the approval is given to reopen the boys and girls, clubs and other types of centers. So AC is the number one priority of boys and girls clubs so important that we maintain safety, both physical and emotional safety for you, and for staff as well and so while we don't know exactly what the future holds We're imagining that the future is going to include some sort of hybrid model of what a club is, but it could include some in person interaction Maintaining faith, distance and masks and sanitizing equipment, but also some version of the virtual clubs so that when young people are able to physically walk in the blue doors. They're still able to connect with their peers and staff so while we're learning as we go, we're expecting that throughout the summer and the fall. Clubs will be offering both virtual and in person experience. That's wonderful news to hear I'm glad that you said that now might. Also that you talked about the social emotional component during these times, because that is very critical for our youth right now now tell us more about how parents can access the virtual resources that you have available for our youth right now during these uncertain times. Though I mentioned to fight, that could be helpful or parents and caregivers. One is BGA DOT org. Where you can type in your location and find the clubs near you that. Virtual or faithfully distance in person programming. And another good report is my future dot net that boys and girls clubs online platform for youth programming, and that's a great place to find some high yield learning activities that young people can do wherever they are in order to build some academic skills and some social and emotional as well. Perfect S Great Intel's from your expert. Opinion in your expertise. What advice do you have for? Parents and caregivers right now to help their students in their home. not only prevents summer learning loss as we mentioned, but also to continue to blossom socially emotionally during this time of uncertainty. this is such an important time to be a caregiver. A research has shown that if the Puerto relationship with a caring adult is the number one factor for helping you to develop resilient and to avoid the effects of toxics. Though, even though this is such a challenging time for young people, the presence of an adult who cares about them and checking in on them regularly asking how they're doing acting them How are you feeling? How do you feel? What can we do to help? You feel that way. can really make a tremendous impact so I would. I would encourage those of us. Who are parents and caregivers and any one who gets to play a role in a young person's life on to keep that social and emotional development idea at the front of your mind And out times when you see young people, demonstrating empathy or persevere answer perspective taking So that you can can notice and an acknowledged that yelled at. They're building. Wonderful advice there and I'm Leslie Chrissy this? Flip it over to the students on. What advice tips would you like to give to students during this time right now? We know everything is as we says up in the air. Things are changing every day, but so that will lead kids to more things like video games or social media, versus really trying to involve themselves in authentic, social, emotional even academic learning. So, what types of tips and advice would you like to give to students at this time to help them kind of balanced in those two? Great Question. I would say that Young people can. Can Office support one another and their friends by checking in on their friends, especially in this current time where we keep talking about social distancing, but really what we mean is say physical distancing but maintaining some social connection, so young people can check on it on their friends checking on their family member basically check in on people in their live to act cover doing and look for creative ways to stay connected there are. there are so many activities that can be done at a defend whether that's going on a walk and talking on the phone while you day in your neighborhood or whether that's playing a game together completing a project together But looking for opportunities to stay connected even while we're apart. Wonderful advice therefore students, and for parents as well and I just want to let everyone know about those resources. One more time to Chrissy gave for parents and students to present prevent summer, learning loss, and also to stay socially and emotionally active. Until this pads over, you can visit the website of BG. See Dot Org. That's to access. The boys and girls clubs of America, and also my future dot net for all of their virtual learning curriculum that they have you can also check out the website of BG that Org Forward Slash Kohl's to find out more about the partnership between BG. See and Kohl's. Thank you so much for joining me today Kristie. It's been a pleasure. Thank you so much for having me I really appreciate a chance to talk with you. Thank you for tuning into the health home digital podcast for transcripts of this episode and. This is our website at fate, health and home dot com also be sure to spread her. And connect with us on facebook. INSTAGRAM YouTube twitter. Thank you again for joining us.

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Special pod! Tab Ramos sits down w/ Bobby Warshaw to talk U-20 World Cup

ExtraTime

23:20 min | 2 years ago

Special pod! Tab Ramos sits down w/ Bobby Warshaw to talk U-20 World Cup

"You're listening to extra time driven by continental. Oh my goodness. I mean what are we doing? Here is. Think his foot. It's great that everyone can give their absolutely ridiculous. Five me Bobby, I don't care anymore to drain my Bank account. Everybody up here every single day goes into the office into the laboratory try to cook them some great stuff you guys. That's why he's here. What's up everyone? Welcome to a special edition of extra time driven by continental from the AT and T MLS studios, I'm Bobby warshaw today, I'm joined by a very special guest Tab Ramos, the head coach of the United States under twenty men's national team that headed to poll in the summer for the under twenty World Cup tab. Thanks for joining us welcomed extratime. Thank you for having me on always feel at home. When I come to the MLS offices that makes us feel a dear the roster's out for your fourth u twenty World Cup. What are the feelings like for you as a coach today? You know, there's a lot of mixed feelings. When you pick a roster because obviously, there's some players that don't make the team. And then you're really excited for the players that are going to have an opportunity to be going to a World Cup for the first time it, certainly a lifetime experience and I and a moment, they'll, they'll remember forever. And how does it differ for you played in three World Cups? How does it differ for you as a manager from when you were as a player? Well, I mean the excitement of going to World Cup. I think is always the same. You know. And this is I've gone to a lot of world championships and a lot of World Cups, and I've been fortunate enough to have done that. But the excitement is always the same I always value this experience, as a great one, and I'm hopefully able to translate that to the players now to get into the roster which was announced today. What did you learn from your last three trips to the World Cup that you applied to this specific group? Well for one thing, the level of players that, that we have that, that the market is putting out there is, is a lot better continues to get better from cycle to cycle. It's been a lot more difficult for me in this cycle select to select the funnel group. And that's and that's considering that there were a couple of players at the top of, of this age group that were already not even being considered. So that's a credit to everything to all the work that's being done outside of, of what we do this has been a difficult process, but I think the learning experiences that it, you know it as you build a team, I think the team, always has to be has to sort of lead itself. And I think I've been able to find definitely in the last two or three cycles, right type of leaders in the locker room who make the team better. We're going to get more into the state of the US soccer player poll and youth development. But you did allude to the fact that they're a couple of players who aren't available all take those names as Tyler Adams and Josh sergeant you did pick full team regular reason team, regular Tim Tim Wia who makes that call. Can you kind of walk us through that decision process? Yeah. So that was that was a decision that started. So the first meetings on that decision were already about a month and a half ago when I had a select my final fifty man roster I wanted to make sure that it didn't include players that that shouldn't be included. So obviously, when I spoke with Greg, at that time I said, okay, you know, here here, the guys that are eligible for the twenty welcome. But instead of me assuming, you know, who would not participate, you sort of let me know who's should be out. And we, you know, that's when at the moment, we just said, well, you know, Tyler Adams, maybe as moved on from, from this age group and his time it's time for him to, to be with the senior national team fulltime. So we took him off the list. And then. The other guys Josh was the next one on the list but it wasn't the hunt one hundred percent at the time. And so we decided let's keep them on just in case into Moya was the other one that was also about fifty percent at the time. So we decided to keep them on. You know, as it turns out, you know as the process when, when forward, you know, Josh now it's a big part of he's a big part of his first team, Tim is also big part of his first team. But he was one that, that, that pushed the process he was one that really wanted to participate in you twenty walk up. So that was the follow up discussion with Gregg about, you know what TIMMY wants to do this. When we just give them the opportunity to do because he wants to. And, and that's sort of where we are. And how often do you have discussions with Gregg Berhalter whether it's about players or playing style or just anything involved with the youth national teams there haven't been many so the first three or four months that Greg since took over and I think it was late November we really didn't have any conversations about players. I only started to happen as we got closer to the end of this, you twenty. Michael because I depend a lot on what, you know the national team coach wants to do. He's the boss. I wanna make sure that we're continuing to develop players that are prepared for his group. And when he feels that someone is already prepared, then then we don't need to have them here in longer. And you've now been the under twenty coach for three full team coaches urine Klinsmann, Bruce Arena and now, Greg elder was that changed for you. How much stayed the same because of potentially a, a top down philosophy at how much has changed. Yeah. So, so I mean it's a great question. I've never been asked that because certainly three different scenarios altogether. So the for first one with urine urine, you know, had a lot of meetings with everybody at the federation about a certain style play and certain things that he wanted to do in, once he put that sort of his imprint on what he wanted to do. He passed onto me. And then, and then it was really up to me. He wasn't hands on at all. So he just worried only about the senior national team. And then I had to do all the other work with the youth. Then when Bruce took over, you know, I did have a couple conversations with Bruce and personally and on the phone and you know, Bruce really in a difficult situation because he came in, in the middle of cycle with one clear goal and that was to try to qualify senior team to the World Cup. So the youth national teams were not so much his concern at the time, but still it's a conversation that I need to have because in my position I need to know what the senior national team coaches thinking at the time. Bruce was confident that I can continue to do my job. So he was very much hands off. We did discuss a lot of the players, but he was very much hands off on the every day of the youth national teams. Now with Gregg, we just started really to have more conversations over the last six eight weeks. Let's call it. So I would assume that he's going to be a lot more hands on. But at this point we, you know, one of the things one of the decisions that he's made that at this time is that obviously, you know, the, the youth the twenty national team is almost at the end of the cycle so for us to implement something new. That comes from the senior national team is probably not the right time when we only have eight days to prepare really before first World Cup game. So it's a little bit more hands off. But I assume that after this concludes that he will have a lot more say and what we do in when it comes to the, the final roster that you picked to go to Poland, you said in the release, quote, there, an additional four or five players who also really deserve deserve to go this time end quote. The names that come to mind, there would be Arado. Aaronson amaya. Sands may be Donovan a mon-. What is the final conversation like with your coaching staff, or maybe with Greg, when you have to make those final decisions? What are some of the factors at your taking into play? Well, there's so much in Jonathan, we can sort of go one by one, but, you know, start with a number one scenario, which is we we built a team in qualifying. That was very successful, and it was successful on and off the field. It was a team that had the right character that had the right determination a team that was aggressive in wanted to play forward. And I didn't wanna lose our identity. So sometimes when you make a lot of changes, if you don't have a long period of time to prepare then you're changing your team altogether. And then now I'd be going into next week, sort of winging it hoping that, that, that the character of the field is going to translate to what happened on the field. So I wanted to keep I wanted to keep the identity that we had built because this is a champion team. And I wanna I wanna carry that. So I wanted to keep that identity and then you have to consider many factors, you know, in Jonathan Ayman's case, you know, his season is not over yet. So would we wanna be in that battle with the club on? Whether they release them at the right time or not, whether they take them back if they have an injury or not. Those are things that have happened to me before. So I have that experience I didn't think that, that was the proper way to go. Look, if somebody gets hurt next week, even may be the, the first one called in. We had the situation obviously with, with Chris Caplis. So Chris cap is moved to play and Denmark, and and he had been doing really well in the last can't be scored tool. So I was you know, but he didn't participate in qualifying. Our midfield is very crowded. We had a player like you know, in this as I mentioned, campus because we had Irwin surreal that plays a Dallas who has done an amazing job at Dallas this year. I mean how do I not rewarded player who has been a pillar on one of the one of the teams have played the best soccer in molest? And so I felt like that needed to be rewarded as well. And I think from my conversations with Lucci in Dallas. He seemed to feel like this is a player that needs to be rewarded for that type of work. And so there's a lot of that comes into play. You know, the decision of selecting one player, there are so many players involved in the decision of just selecting one and one thing, I've always wanted to ask someone your positions. I'll take the chance now do you factor in dole nationalities, because I was in the player pool with Nevin super-rich who didn't make the under twenty team left the US player pool. Is that something that you factor in trying to keep a player involved or give them a carrot for future decisions? No. No. Actually, I don't because all that work needs to be done before this, in all this is that you twenty national team going to the World Cup is not necessarily the tool that you would use for that. I think you, you, you know you need to have contact with the players. You know, I do what I do in terms of thinking about the future. That's why include a player like Yuliana, for example. Right. So is it two thousand and one he's eligible for the next twenty World Cup. I have always taken on every cycle one or two players, where younger than the group because they give me the leadership going into the next cycle. So I do think about that. But not necessarily thinking about doing nationals. Okay. And as I said, you head off on Monday really to Poland. What happens tween now and your first World Cup game against Ukraine, how much tactical work how much team building. And how much competition for starting spots is still left the take place. Yeah. There's, there's all of that. There's all of that we have we have a game schedule against Uruguay on eighteenth, which is already next Saturday. So the team will be getting together on Tuesday. We already have a Saturday game. So most of the preparation for the World Cup will be tactical and how to break down our first opponent, which will be Ukraine, and Paxton palmful came on extra time. And one thing you said about the twenty team is that you're not shy about saying, guys. Let's go win this tournament, not just competing in it, but going to win it, what makes you believe that or convey that to your team. Well, look, I mean, it's I think it's what everybody says you can only, you know, you can't win the tournament when you show up. So you only all we can do is win the first game. So as long as we prepare one game at a time I feel like we always have a chance we certainly are not getting off the plane in Poland to just play three games and leave whether that happens or not, I don't know. But the fact is that right now are only focuses to be to be crane, and then we take it from there. So the push you on that let's say they make sure you don't play just three group games. What do you need to do to be successful, tactically? Technically, technically, mentally, what would be a Mark of this team playing well in likely getting out of the group. Yeah, I think one of the if I if I look back at all the cycles we've had and in general, the American player competing at the international level, there's one place where we lack in that's and that's the transitional game. So when the ball when we transition from attacking defending, and from the fending to attacking, you know, when you play in conquer cap, sometimes you, you can get away with the delay of the one or two seconds before you react to place. But when you play the European powers teams are best in Europe and you play the South American powers. They can punish you, if you take a long time to think, and so that's one thing that I've been Alrighty talking to our team about over the period of the cycle letting them know that when we go to the World Cup. There's one place we've. Been lacking in the past, and we have to be better at in transition and is it mentally transitioning, not taking a little break. Or is it literally physically, whether it's the first passed between the lines the pace to get out in open? Space would specific part of that. It's always both. It's always both. We, you know, we play a wide open game because we're trying to win games. And so that's a difficulty for us is how do we how do we make the feel small when we don't have the field when we don't have the ball as soon as possible? So that's something that we work on in practice in that I feel confident that that will have sorted by by the first game. And we've talked about winning the tournament, but you're still youth national team your star still part of the youth player development. How do you balance that idea of developing players? But going out to win a trophy, I think you can do both because I think winning is part of development you, you, you know you certainly not developing to lose games. And I don't wanna pass on players who are not champions. Like I wanna pass on players who are confident and who show up to the field happy every day to, to win. Games. And so I think it's a little bit of both. You know, we regardless of the lineup we have regardless of whether you take a red card or you don't have the right guys on the field. Whoever shows up that day he they're going to be ready to win the game. So I, I want to continue on this idea player development 'cause you talked about earlier, you've now been around with the US u twenty men's national team since two thousand eleven when you look around in twenty nineteen whether it's at youth tournaments or the youth national teams what do you what do you see as the state of player development in the US? I, I mean it's I think is a different world than what we were seeing just ten years ago. And then obviously, if you talk about, you know, years before that, you know you I don't think you can even compare but I think when you look at the youth national teams and you see the success that we've had recently the last four or five years, and I say success not not because we won games are because we want trophies, but success because we've done both we've learned games. And we went trophies, but we've also passed on some of our better players. So the senior national team. And I think I can't I can't say enough to give credits credit to the to the clubs because I think we start to see. And I'm sure MLS clubs he as well. But we, we start to benefit from the fact that Emily's ownership is investing in youth development investment in facilities is invest in infrastructure investing, and, and, and coaches, and I think the players are getting better and the players that we get at the national team we have more good players to select from. Do you think that's a matter of which part of the process, do you think has improved the most you think it's zero to ten ten to fifteen fifteen to seventeen or that pro player pipeline from seventeen? If you'd identify one part, that's come the farthest and ten years, what would you say which part of youth development, I would say development until twenty because not just be youth. That might include the young professionals. I think the place where we've proven now in obviously for the people who had an opportunity to see some of the Cup game. Right. Because they're really exciting. And we match ourselves up. We matched the best of MLS against the rest of the world sort of some of the best clubs in the world at ten. I think there's that there's that spot between let's say twelve years old, and sixteen years old where I think we've made tremendous strides where I feel like we're as good as any country in the world. I think it's that, you know, set zone one at the end, you know, when you get to that, you know, seventeen to twenty how can we accelerate that process to get more players into? I teams where we still need to improve use the term zone. One there. What does that mean? So zone. One is the is the age after seventeen. So it's like your last days because you before you go into your professional, okay, cool, I haven't heard that one before it, but we've grown bored, not there yet. What's next for us to really get in the same realm as France and Germany, and maybe even recently Croatia, and developing elite players? I think I think we have to have patience with that. Because it takes it takes time. I think we've. Come a long way when you look at the players now that are coming out to the national team in the players that we've had in the past, and it's been a process, it's been a fifteen twenty year process, and I think we may be quite a few years away still from being France or from England. I think it, it has to be a number of things starting with the league getting better starting with the development following that. So there's there's so many things that have to happen before we can we can truly compete at that level. I feel you had mentioned that does come back to this real quick, that you like our players are at by sixteen. So, you know, the under twenty group sixteen seventeen eighteen nineteen years old, what needs to happen for these players to maximize their ability to be full professionals at twenty five or twenty eight. What are the key variables between that youth stage and the full professional stage? Yes. I mean I hate to repeat myself because I'm sure on these shows your, your constantly talking about these sort of things. And I know I molested Fred Lipka working every day as hard as they can to, to bridge that gap because at that is that is the place you know. Increasing competition for players as one thing increasing, you know, better competition for them making sure that all the players are getting their forty to forty five games a year, which is not all of them get it at what age starting with sixteen seventeen all these players need to, you know that's what players do around the world. They get at the very least forty forty five games a year that are competitive games at the professional level or at the youth level at the youth level and at the professional level. So we need to we need to continue to do both, but, you know, if you're asking about that one particular age group, that's where we need to improve to make sure that they're all getting that type of game. And then for you, personally, when you valuate players when you try and pick players for this team. And you look at how they project towards being good professionals, where two or three traits that you really liked to see in players. Well, you know, I say this is this is the part where every coach is different, right? Because it's easy to have the answer that we all have in our presentations, at the end of the day for me the mentality of players really important. You know, it's, it's really important. For me that when when I have a team that the team is happy team that the team plays with that happiness on the field. It doesn't mean that you don't work hard. And it does certainly doesn't mean that you don't suffer in a game because that's part of it. But I think a player likes to be rewarded when he does the job. And there's nothing like getting the maximum out of a player who mentally prepared to give you all he has a game in the area of increased tactics. That's gotta be hard for you to balance. Hell can you have the micro detail on tactics but also give players a chance to express express themselves and be creative enjoy the game. No, I think the players adapt to that. Because players are used to it. You know we have much better coaching in the youth ranks now than we had before so players already dealing with taxes. If their team fourteen years old, they already know they're familiar with a lot of that. Sure every coach is different. So there's some corrections you make and, and every team you play against it's difference. So when you look at, you know team like Ukraine, for example, this extremely organized in five four one. So now you gotta figure out a way to break them down. And play. Our players are accepting. They're open to that they buy into to you putting something together that they feel they can succeed with. Do you have? I know you don't love to talk about your future. It's just you twenty World Cup coming up. But it's a topic we're going to ask questions on that for a sec. Sure you've been linked to a number of MLS posts. Can you say what jobs those of been? Or if you've been close to taking them in the past. No. Not. Really? I mean I wouldn't want to discuss any particular team. But I can say is that, you know, always as a as a professional you always looking to improve and increase in change. But, you know, I I've been very loyal to every place. I've been you know when I came time Alaska was obviously the first player signing the league. So really didn't have a league. But my deal was never this which clubs you know, at the stay at one. So youth player we stayed at one as you know, as a college player only stayed at one place. You know, I never left early. And now I've been in this job for the last eight years. So I've, you know, so I think the only thing I can say about that is that I, I will move from here when the time is right. And when the place is right? And, and they have a feel that it's going to be a longtime process, and do you have a sense of what that right would mean or what that process would look like? I personally do I mean, I, I wanna work for people who want to see the game playing the right way, I wanna play exciting soccer. I know anybody can say that, but I think you've you've. Seen that in the team that I coach. But more importantly, I wanna work with good people every day, you know, as, as you get older, you start to realize that every day counts. And so you want to be surrounded by the right people in the right place. So one question that I would have for you specifically transitioning from the youth national team to the full team. And I, I know you don't like to talk about other people's jobs, or quite yourself to other people, but Brad Friedel Anthony Hudson. Both came from national teams and clubs settings. Is there anything you learn from their experiences and Major League Soccer that maybe you would do differently with your first full professional job was difficult to tell because although I'm you know, I'm very good friends with Brad, obviously, it's I I know a lot of you know about what, what he does. You know, it's difficult to say one thing because then I would be correcting what they did. I certainly don't want to do that because we're all different at the same time the club you know games different than the national team game you know national team game you bring everybody and you have very little time to prepare, and then you go and play the games. And then before you know. Oh, it it's over club. You, you need to you need to do. Really good. Job developing culture, you need to develop a family of club. And if you can't do that you're gonna have a tough time when the bad results come because that results come for every coach you need to survive those times. So I just wanna personal level and end this, what do you personally do in the forty eight hours before you depart for a World Cup? What is that, like for a manager before you go into the pressure cooker? Yeah, I'm gonna be first of all, I'm gonna be happy when this day is over because he's been been tough day. But nah, just I spent a lot of time with my family, because I'm no, I'm not gonna see them for the next hopefully five weeks. So I try to do that spend as much time as I can with my kids and my family and go watch soccer games and stuff like that. And obviously, I still have to do my homework because I still wanna see how my guys do this weekend. So there's a lot of homework to do with that. Nice. Nice Tab Ramos, thank you so much for joining extra time during by continental it's great to have your ATM. Studios in Poland. Shit.

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Episode 297: Be Informed, Be Engaged, Be the Difference!

The Captain's Log with Host Brien Spina Podcast

14:47 min | 1 year ago

Episode 297: Be Informed, Be Engaged, Be the Difference!

"Komo morning friday back on the captain's log amanda bates. Thank you so much for joining me really cool 'cause <hes> i know i took part in the benita leadership program and you are running the call your that's right the leadership foundation the greater naples chambers this version yeah. I think it's really good. I know you guys <hes> for years. How many years has been going on so the leadership call your program. Which is the flagship you know senior leadership program that has actually been in collier since nineteen eighty nine so that's ours in thirty years of people the community there become leaders meters in the program itself. I'm sure it's very similar to what i did right you. You take <hes> people who are potentially you. Leaders in the community are ready. You walk them through all the different things that we have to offer here correct from arts entertainment all the way to do the politics side right. That's right when i share finish yes oh if you're part of the leadership car program and we have actually multiple versions of of the leadership programs very last one there. We do it all right guys. We're short sharing to the chambers page technical difficulties. He got got it awesome perfect so the adult version of a yeah. We're going to different places <hes> but we're not going to you know any ordinary place. We're going to go and we're going to go behind the scenes and we're gonna hear from the top executive. They're here from the c._e._o. <hes> and see what really he makes that business or entity function and how it affects our community right and then a lot of times like it i opening stuff if you don't realize when <hes> you know you do the arts day or even d do one with light. The naples pleased to the sheriff of sounds amazing. It's unbelievable uh-huh yeah. It happens to be a fan favorite for many people really enjoy that day but we have <hes> commerce government. <hes> law enforcement arts media <hes> <hes> environment. Did i say that education human services so on and so forth so agriculture and it's a big deal like when your company me or when you decide to apply for it. How many applications do you get a great question so we actually have an extremely competitive program all because we have a <hes> leadership program for senior level leaders. We have a young professional leadership program and we use leadership so i would say for each. Tell me about the youth leadership your ship program my kids. I might have to give them a second job. Now that it also oh i have about seventy to eighty applications for each program walk and in the class size that we can that the selection committee because staff does not select the <hes> classes for very good reasons <hes> we can bring in about forty forty two forty two for the adult who selected so their past graduates of the programs okay great so i have. I put together selection committee so that they read in score and select part of what they're doing is. They want to make a really diverse class so that you know you're not in. If you're an attorney you're not gonna have fifteen other attorney for everybody. In there is going to be a dentist right <music>. You want you want different parts of the community to be represented so each year then when they go through the course that they can actually grew the community board right. Now is the idea that i did it. Did it was a commitment. It's these people literally like. It's nice commitment to <hes>. It's a feel good dang but also i just can't you're giving back because you learn all these days than the goal is that you teach others others. You know what it's all about eve only teach others but then you probably are gonna throughout the course of your nino sees leadership runs from september through march march and april over the course that time you're going to know and learn about something that you feel compelled as a group to support and so they end up doing the doing amazing class what's projects to do something to make an impact community the for the rest of their professional and me retired lives in collier. They are the kind of people that will want to get more involved in support the things that need to happen to make the best place to live work and visit. Yes i agree. I present i feel passionate about i bet as well so i think it's really good and we have a big event coming up bright and at off the hook. Tell me about this <hes> so we have a talent show. Yes so about three years ago when we had a presentation from one of our graduates. His name is aaron lap. He's on social media big. He he was he gave a presentation and he just threw in his humor into it and i was still laughing tears like he was so funny <hes> he might perform it off but he's actually a director of development for the conservancy. He's he's an extreme professional. He was just so funny so i thought i bet she. There are other alumni that have hidden talents so were were putting together this talent show it's put together and <hes> we have five acts regret up into tuesday night. That's right and it's a fundraiser for scholarships so that people who who maybe wouldn't be able to do our youth program or listen leadership program <hes> for the tuition scholarship because there is a fee <hes> so it's it's donnelly a commitment financially but you have to dedicate certain amount of days to this show. It's not like you just show up one day and you're done. I mean no these people really working hard to better the community benefit themselves and so you're going to raise money for like scholarship to to join one of the programs around for somebody who may not be able to afford that's right so some people look at the program and so for the youth kroger. It's five hundred dollars tuition and first senior leadership. It's twenty two hundred so if that ah maybe for nonprofits looking at that <hes> cost or an entrepreneur who's just starting out or a student who stanley wouldn't be able to support that that five hundred hundred come. We don't want that ever to be a problem. We work hard to make sure that we have some of those scholarships annually every year. There's different scholarship okay great so so there is a ways that you can do you can always use the excuse he can't afford correct because you guys will only get will make a half hour right and so what's the youth program about how many how many students from that excited. It is exciting <hes> that we're so proud of them. There's actually a whole nother or part of that the youth development work that we do that. We can be touched on later but okay <hes> so yeah. It's a high school junior so this year <hes> me and my co worker alex bro will go into to all of the high schools private public and we will recruit juniors in high school to apply so <unk> juniors on other seventh and eighth graders <hes> and then <hes> we have again about maybe sixty seven applications for a class of thirty three and then the that group of thirty three represent all schools and clark counties a hand. A couple from each school will get selected <hes> and again. There's just you know when you say. How do you get selected. A lot of people ask that. They're really we just looking for people that are that want to do it too for the intentions of bettering the community and right being a leader you probably try to select people who are going committed to do it to finish it right now because it's <hes> it is a big part of it so when they do that in the school system <unk> added junior level <hes> is it the same type of class as they is each class represent. The same like being jammed depends on your yeah every year. There are the the the topics are the same but how you go about learning about those topics is usually a little different hogan <hes> but yes so it would be for the students once they they were selected that program would be the first week that they get out of school usually so it's over the summer first week they get out of school in june and <hes> you know i hate to say it but kids and adults alike usually leave these programs going you know manda. This really changed my life of course it's you know they and the whole point white for us right is that they realized how special clark county is right. They don't realize that until they get there. Were so many things that i didn't know we had to offer. I was coming home telling you telling you cable yeah. We need to go here. We need to go take this tour and they exactly accolades lived here like twenty years right and then i did know that some of the stuff exists back because you just you live your life every day and you don't explore all everything everything that has to offer locally your always traveling everywhere right to <hes> to see new things but we have so much ear like all these years. I still haven't seen it you know and so like if we're talking about law enforcement for example and we're working with the sheriff's office at the city of naples police or we were going. Tell me about the show speaking of the sheriff this sheriff day when you ride with them. Did you guys get the crash cars. Sometimes i suppose the programmes are different every a year but <hes> the sheriff's office in sydney was pleased and marco they pull out all the stops for us so that we can really experience and not have to save the the point of that is for us is to not like you know see how their toys r. visit pretty cool <hes> but it's really to understand everything that goes into making clarify one of the safest places to i live i mean they really worked so hard and the stress that their deputies or yo- you you go through their simulations and you realize quick decisions. They need a meghan. Your mind is is one totally miss unbelie want one of the most memorable when we get to ride in <hes> in the patrol cars and they do the crash when they white car. How old man now like full speed spins out so awesome i didn't do that. You can do that and give you a helmets and like like a safety vest and then they literally really like speed down this runway and they take out the car with the other bits and out. You get to do that as many times as you want. They're like you crash. The decided it was amazing wildlife so this is what we're gonna do next right now. We're driving on a show you how my technique just kidding kidding kidding. We had safety gear on a runway. It was really cool that was amazing and then we got shoot learn about gun safety <hes> with so many times. It was really really amazing. One of the things that was amazing to me to was the <hes> mosquito do you you guys do pest control the mosquito. That's so crazy. It's a really important part of our community. So important in the heck would have known that's right yeah all the details in into you just to after you graduate then you have all of these connections for life you know these are usually the people that are program mean. You've got if there's someone getting married or having the baby. These are the people that are there. You know supporting them in all of their major like a lot of team building in and <hes> yeah like everyone really mashes even like the first first few days right like right away. Ask friends for life yeah. It's really great. <hes> we have another <hes> avenue of earn another initiative of our foundation that we're gonna right now now and have been doing so pretty strongly. The last two years called work based learning so we've been thinking about how to work more with us because we thought the n._f._l. Only reached thirty three kids with these experience but we do more even the kids who go through italy wish. My friends could do this program. It's so great and opened. My <music> is so we have now. <hes> we have this initiative work based learning we have actor who does this work fulltime and we are supporting students with a professional workplace experiences while they're in school so if there if you're like you know i'm really interested in engineering right. That's what my son wants to do there but it'll tell you right now. He doesn't wanna do that he. He thinks he dies so one of the things that we do. You like i myself. I know every internship every year in college and all all of those insurance internships led me to understand this what i wanna do right so whatever <hes> it led me to where i am today and i'm glad but show she will support students with getting those workplace place experiencing your sign for example would be able to spend a day with an engineer or log that yeah and then you know maybe when they're ready you know maybe these students are in some program like nath academy or they just are ready for a summer internship. She'll support working with businesses to to open up space find opportunities for students to have these we have it. My college is different to begin as five. I really have a big fan of interns by the way i always have interns at the comedy club in <hes> working with me fulltime as well marketing etc but the the idea the internship or even a program like that is so important i mean we had to do was mandatory. We did three internships before we graduated. The two had to be over the summer at one had to be a whole semester. I know that that's a long. I called on to make sure that you have to do but that was part of their curriculum on every every major had to do that so big fan totally agree with it's great you know and so from an internship an art is that we're starting with kids in high school right right impact that would make a few started in high school that absolutely would be a life changer for sure and then so many kids come into college thinking they wanna do something and they've really had no clue until they did an internship right yeah yeah. I don't wanna do that or i love doing this part of that job so if they had their opportunity in high school tardy served czar focusing ahead of time that would be really amazing. Yes we're supporting students really all students and aqap high-school college honestly if there's students in middle swan than elementary they're looking for some career speaker series to come into their schools or whatever we're doing it well tuesday night. <hes> what time is showtime tuesday night talent show so for the <hes> with our alumni association and we have about twenty stocks left get tickets on on the website numbers website today because we greater naples chambers website today because we're closing registration at the end of today twenty spots shutting down people get your ticket of dancing and this guy right here so be good. It'd be good time well. Thank you for joining me. I appreciate it. This is the captain's log amanda <hes>. You're doing it you doing it on. I appreciate it. Thank you for being such a good <hes> community leader. Thanks appreciate your time. Thank you bye-bye.

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Stuart Baxter on Indian football, development of players in ISL, coaching national teams and more

Beyond The Scores

1:00:41 hr | 7 months ago

Stuart Baxter on Indian football, development of players in ISL, coaching national teams and more

"And Malcolm. ORCAS that bring you the views of those in the news. Do I k. now As E. August made is one of the most expedient schools in this book. Is Bleeding and many multiple team across multiple countries and competence. minuting. Loves is also had accepting national teams and has done a new job with them. Now, even getting the expectation for huge reserves defense in the upcoming interleague season a very woman. Welcome to deter Knox new head coach. Stuart Baxter is during doing. Thank you. So we hope that you're ready to back backs and come to India. Yes. I she. Serious The anatomy can the powers of the allow me to be on the plane. gave. Listeners. You know how this happened from salt figure to India. Our glove communes you're looking for this project and you like in India to. His job. Was In when I was in South Africa, we just flying the the African nations we G we've been agents very tournaments. 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So you're know the different project compared what you're doing. We see the new club. Them vetting from the local government they are. Now Moving do a this season will be not a homophobe moral if it was. So. Sad for. Not to. Comment. Blamed on events. Nuts nuts. We re going to go because he always a slice. Is Not a problem with the Saudi let A. Fact that. The. So so bio bio boot. Is designed for everybody. So that's that's one issue but the the fact that we not playing. Times. Yeah. Yes. We'll this them and the fact that we're not really. Doing our policy, the sorts of the. The, that size in of the. In the province of the. Pain back a little bit of the cooperation with a local. Yeah. Would like to be doing more tangible things. To tell relationship. But sure we'll all the academy will. Have to make sure that same is a good advertisement. For. The for the region and also. The fines. Can enjoy identifying the football play. And you all. Out of the coaches before coming in the vision of. 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And yes everybody. Knows you can make good signings backslidings, but we wanted to try to. As much as possible a copeland. And give the yoga place the best possible opportunistic. Dumbo, for you on party nuts coach getty. Foremost. You've been good. Yeah. Why Gay I I my question had how? You decided you know. He's goalkeeping goods has various quicken was in that he will be. So. Easy. Also taking care of the department. Of. Defense moving. which He'll love. Jerry. Jerry in. Those in sub tragedy he oceana Jeremy Been Titan skulk because Jubilo Iwata. And we secured win the championship. On his crowd. Not by US you so. Jerry Presley with the way the way you made an effort to colts squad in congratulates while the end. Unless. They. Move Fro Salvage, Kobe I approached Jerry. Any Communist goalkeeping coach but I went to so to Joe Ely as goalkeeping coach what I left so-called the initia- fi. Jerry went back to England and they. You said listen goalkeeper coach. Who Do you recommend? US. 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And then maybe we need to do some work on transition play. Both ways because we can see too many goals and then said place both ways because they only conceded too many goals so. I think. I don't really I don't want to make less pleasant on the. I. Want to make them a little efficient and I would like to see them ruthless. fans little idea night. As we. The time we will have a couple of preseason friendlies maybe due to dig into and find out what kind of mission statement not be. So, have you. Realistic Dodge in mind you know that this season you want to do this after coming. From his ways are league stage. Lesion by the table. whichever club that I got to be full association my immediate goal. Respective of the situation Kingston immediate goal is they should that's. That's my that's my immediate goal. Now, own guessing that if they're better than they were last year than we closed the playoffs yet. So A. Multimedia goal is. 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Sponsored Episode: The Weapon of Art, Transforming Guns into instruments of Hope

Datebook

18:24 min | 1 year ago

Sponsored Episode: The Weapon of Art, Transforming Guns into instruments of Hope

"This is a sponsored episode of Datebook presented by Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in the last twenty years. Gun Violence has been a consistent fixture in American society ten local artists and collectives are repurposing firearms collected in San Francisco. Most of the people involved have been affected by senseless gun violence why B. C.. A. In collaboration with the Robby Publicity Foundation and united players are showing the transformation of of weapons into symbols of hope and healing in the art of peace. It's a group exhibition of sculptural art works made from dismantled firearms. It'll be on view at why B._C._A.'s Second Floor Gallery from July Twenty third through August twenty fifth. I'm King Kaufman on this episode of Datebook presented by Your Buena Center for the Arts. I'll talk to one of the artists in the exhibition sunk way. Moe will also visit with Deborah Cullen The C._E._O.. Of Why V._C._A.. FIRST UP I WANNA welcome to the people behind the project Patty Nevada publicity's area journalists. She's the editor of San Francisco magazine she founded the Robby Publicity Foundation in honor of her son was killed by gun violence in Vallejo in two thousand fourteen. He was twenty three Patty. Welcome yeah and Rudy Valentino from united players. That's a violence prevention at Youth Development Organization. He founded in nineteen ninety. Four united players provides youth with a safe and positive environment in which to grow rudy. Thanks for being here. I thought Rudy Valentino would be silent but I guess not Patty. Let's start with you. Tell me about the art of peace. Where did the guns come from well for this particular exhibit against came from the Gun? Buy Back that the united players held in partnership with San Francisco Police this department we were one of the partner organizations as well as other community organizations but every art of peace exhibit that has happened. <hes> is a result of dismantled firearms that were collected through gun buybacks in that particular city so there have been others yes so me but those well I started the foundation in twenty seventeen. <hes> few years after my son was was killed by gun violence. I knew that I wanted to get as many unwanted firearms out of circulation as possible. I didn't want to stop there. I wanted the message to be about transformation and hope and I got this idea of <hes> obtaining the metal after the guns were dismantled and then redistributing them to artists because if you could imagine these weapons were made for the sole no reason of of causing harm so if you dismantle that and repurpose it so that it's it's <hes> built to raise awareness to inspire to <hes> to touch someone's heart then that was the message I had because I wasn't a very dark place myself. I was feeling like I was a victim of destruction and I needed to emerge and transform much like these guns have been be purposed and my son at the time he was killed was learning how to weld. He was also collecting metal to create art and that's where the idea came from rudy of. <hes> who and what are united plays and what's your role in all this so I just WanNa say thank you for having us on air and it'd be on this patty. She's magnificent. You know what I mean anytime that we we connect us on a spiritual level for big of purpose and so you're not players is a violence prevention organization that originated twenty five years ago from gun violence and gang violence and so it started at a high school in San Francisco Bobble High High School one of the most notorious school's back in ninety four that the kids came together because they were tired of the senseless violence and we sat in a room just like this and the kids came with all the answers to the solution of stopping the violence so twenty five years later our organization is back in his neighborhood won't born and raised in district six around the corner from where we at while I've been survival gun violence on and cut a case around the corner right here and Al showing what you earlier on your boat doc to run a newspaper out right here and you know those gangs around his neighborhood yeah I was part of that lifestyle for our listeners. Our neighborhood that we're sitting in right now is at fifth and mission downtown yet south of market district six straight money Mac murder back in the days as part of that lifestyle and so being a part of your players twenty twenty five years later is about preventing violence senseless violence and in partnership with magnificent people. Oh like Patty who's on the same page as US of end in violence period. How does art work a let either of you answer? How does art work address gun violence? Well there are foundation has three programs. There's The gun buy I back which is to get as many unwanted firearms off the streets as possible. There's art of peace which repurposes that medal and the third one is <hes> what we call work in progress where we create career pathways for at risk and high risk individuals so a lot of it is putting them through building mm trades <hes> commercial driving so that there is an alternative lifestyle to crime. You know where people have lifelong job skills are when I was creating or designing our foundations programs I thought would be the least impactful I it was really a no mosh to what my son was doing which was re purposing metal for art but what I found when we unveiled the first art of peace it was it. The power of these pieces was <hes> was unimaginable. People came to that exhibit a lot of them came just to kind have criticized gun lovers who were criticizing our message and they left in tears because what they see are these beautiful pieces of art and you don't realize until you walked closer to it that these are actually pieces of metal from gun that could have killed someone and and a lot of the the firearms that we use. It's not just from gun buybacks. I have <hes> a unique contract with a private firm that destroys firearms from throughout the whole state. These are guns that have been adjudicated so these are firearms that were directly used for. Homicides and violent crime and now it's a beautiful bird. It's a beautiful butterfly. It's a tree you know and to realize that coming in that wow these are instruments of destruction and now they're instruments of hope is is is very powerful fall and what I learned after the first exhibit was it's very hard to talk about gun violence without going from it going from zero to one hundred it's very political but when you're able to move the heart through a piece of art then you're able to shift the mind and and that's how I'm going about it you have to move someone emotionally before you can begin to have that dialogue you mentioned Patty <hes> people coming into the exhibition to protest it to to argue because they're pro firearm and walking away the very very different reaction. Can you talk about that a little bit describe one share there. There was a man who came to our first exhibit. Actually I did a show with him for <hes> for another channel he is an N._R._A.. Card holding man with numerous <hes> assault weapons <hes> and he came specifically to to criticize what we were doing and <hes> when he came and saw the beautiful pieces of art I he was walking past each piece and I explained to him the stories behind each piece one of them some way move who is in this exhibit was also in the first exhibit. Her fiance and I didn't know she will tell the story but she had just lost her fiance to gun violence she made that piece of art in grief in very raw grief and what she created you can pull the pain and you can pull whole the hope from that. There was another <hes> Iranian immigrant who fled the country because of the political turmoil he and his friends only to be met with gun violence in New York City. He lost his friends coming to America even though they sought refuge from I'm from this violent country and when I was able to explain each of the stories behind those pieces of art to this man who came specifically to criticize this he walked away with a better understanding. I'm not trying to take his guns away. I'm trying to get as many many unwanted firearms off the streets as possible the gun that was used to kill my son was obtained illegally after they used it to kill him. They resold it on the streets and it was used on another crime and it will continue to circulate until that person and that weapon is confiscated and arrested and so that's what I'm trying to address not <hes> impinging on someone's Second Amendment right but getting as many unwanted firearms off the streets as possible so he now is one of our biggest supporters in terms of donations attending our events being spokesperson for us and he has an N._R._A.. Card holding member US gave me goosebumps those so there is not a political aspect to the project and this exhibition. How is it political to save lives? You know if you're a Republican. Are you any less for saving your neighbor's child or your own child that to me. That's the part I don't understand to politicize. A human life is ridiculous. I don't see the politics that we are nonpartisan. Paterson we are we're pro keeping people alive. They could just say this when a bullet leaves the chamber. It doesn't care if you're Republican or Democrat young you. Oh you black white a peppermint striped. It doesn't matter when it comes out of that chamber table is GonNa destruct and kill anything in its path. I'm not against the Second Amendment. I never had been understand. We live in a rural world but I am against senseless gun violence and I know for a fact that you got a lot of people on the streets. Who are you know mentally incapable of caring guns? You got domestic violence. You've got people whose MAG because they losing a job who come back to the job and started smacking everybody up in the room so these are the type of gun violences that we feel that we can in I used to break into cars and houses we used to look for money jewelry and guns and no sane guns I used to take will be the gun that I will go around the different neighborhoods and pull the trigger if I can add one thing because there I know you get a lot. You've been doing a lot longer then I have but <hes> there's a lot of critics when it comes to gun buybacks. Are they efficient. What do they really do? How do you quantify <hes> the impact? You know that's hard to do because you never know how. Many lives are saving by getting one gun off the streets but I wanNA WANNA tell one story because it is no questions asked just like <hes> reduce gunfight bags in San Francisco but there was one man who came with his daughter. His son was diagnosed and he offered this story himself. We don't ask questions but his son was diagnosed with schizophrenia he he was cleaning his room out and found this assault weapon sandwiched under his mattress and even the Royal Police Department said this is the same assault weapon that we used to train our SWAT team with he was able to obtain that assault weapon off the Internet and the father was so afraid because the sun is schizophrenic. He was gonNA literally throw it in the river and his daughter Said No. There's a gun buyback. I saw flyer and how many lives did we save you know by having this on forum where people can responsibly surrender a firearm and that's very difficult to quantify but I know that if a gun is taken off the streets and surrendered that probability of it being stolen and used to kill someone goes to zero that's undeniable and no one can argue that point a man rudy eighty Hattie thanksgiving by anke so much next up. We're going to talk to one of the artists Sung Way Moat. She is from Taiwan. She came to the United States fourteen years ago. She's a citizen now. She was a Muny the art featured artists in two thousand eighteen so you may have seen her art on the buses and streetcars and this year. She's a winner in the United Airlines her art here contest which means her art is on the exterior of a seven fifty seven Sunday Komo welcome hi tell me about your piece in this project the art of piece this piece is an outer piece is my second high. Participate are of these projects because my former. Mer partner he was a victim of gun violence. So this piece is I refrained myself my life in I want you dedicate to him to honor his live to celebrate his life. So is <hes>. Let's pieces about cross cultural. I want you represent using those transformers gun parts to build a organ like in a Church Organ Music Instrument and with my Chinese heritage parentage I put like incense in right rice to build Saigo shrine so I 'cause I want you may the peace to make him go to the better appraise 'cause when my I are of his project. I have some feedback there was a woman she has tear in her eyes and she talked to me. Her son was a victim of gang violence and my piece touching her heart and that's why keep giving me the fuel to allow me WanNa do art to inspire more people to courage people to stand up when I go see the art of peace and I see your art there. What would you like me to take away from it? What what do you want to say to me so I won't people realize like understanding as of <hes> fictims family how I feel or Hollis tragedy of fat people's life is not only the person who lost their life in a gang violence as a whole family is a whole community or does how society eaten so I won't do those are two that people awareness of Allah in do some positive change just being a nice person? Do Sounding everyday okay <unk> Sung Mo.. Thanks for coming in talking about your art thank you Sunday Mo- will be showing more art in a similar vein at San Francisco City College next March and April the exhibition will be called good die young <music>. Deborah Colin is the C._E._O.. Of Your Buena Center for the Arts She's a leading thinker on the role arts organizations can play shaping the social and political landscape Deborah Welcome to date book. Thank you for having me. How did your Buena Center for the arts become involved in the art of peace project you know at y._m._C._a.? We take really seriously the role that we play in civic life and the life of our community <hes> and <hes> I have had the good fortune of having a longtime partnership and relationship with Rudy and and the team at United Players <hes> think that they are one of the most important organizations right now operating in the city and you know Rudy's been working around issues related to violence and youth violence and gun violence and we <hes> had a conversation. In about this extraordinary woman Patti <hes> and the work that she's been doing <hes> you know looking at how to help people think differently about <hes> weapons frankly and to me this is exactly the role that an art arts center should play where at the center of downtown San Francisco and we can be a place that brings together all kinds of different people around issues that we care about and we believe that any issue that matters is going to be moved forward much more quickly if if we start with artists what is that role for an arts organization. How does this exhibition demonstrate that role yeah I I mean I think that the role of the art center in its community is really rooted in the idea that we're uniquely situated to start conversations around creativity and imagination to get to really dip difficult really complex questions through nuance right? If you ask an artist to look at questions around violence they're going to open your mind and your heart in ways that you wouldn't <hes> <hes> experience. If you started with policy you know or if he started with the partnerships rate so to me. It's very much about opening our hearts opening our minds being a centre for dialogue and conversation being a place where really different perspectives can mash up so so that we can move beyond guns are big political issue. It's almost like a third rail at times in American politics <hes>. How much of a risk is it for an arts organization to make statements about guns you know frankly I think it's a risk for us not two? I think that we have an obligation to have a point of view and I think any arts organization that suggests that there are neutral place is not acknowledging their own power privilege and politics and so for us. It's not a risk at all. It's a risk if we don't is this an art exhibit for gun control advocates would if someone is pro second amendment and pro guns and come walks into this exhibit. What are they gonNA think yeah? I think that's a fabulous question. I think again to to to the point around having a point of view the exhibition is you know most of the artists in the exhibition are looking at gun control <hes> and through in various ways very artfully advocating for it but not all of them. Some of them are really looking to find that balance between <hes> you know owning guns and and being responsible with them now given the exhibition does have a point of view. I think for the most part it doesn't mean that it can't spark dialogue in fact the programs around it the context we place it in. It's all about bringing together. Diverse perspectives is is it a a safe place to do that in San Francisco. Can this exhibit travel. Could it be done in Texas. That's a really good question yeah. I think that it it isn't so much about the exhibit. It's about how you contextualize. It and I want to believe that we can have hard conversations no matter where we are in the country if we can actualize them and if we take into account different beliefs different values different life experiences and perspectives located Debra Colon and the C._E._o.. Of Your Buena Center for the.

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S2 E43: Robin Fraser's Pablo-to-Pep Rating

Holding The High Line with Rabbi and Red

1:24:44 hr | 1 year ago

S2 E43: Robin Fraser's Pablo-to-Pep Rating

"The actual jason yes the sheriff's we'll give you the walls became spring. I knew and then claw your face off rast talking with questions from aw thank you <music>. Hello rapids rapid's fans. My name is matt pollard and you are listening to holding the high line with rabbi and read it is the evening of tuesday august twenty seventh events twenty nine robin frazier has finished his first training session and announcement press conference as the new head coach of the colorado rapids lane lane united are u._s. Open cup champions and mark more importantly as one of the co chairs of the h. l. patriotic budgeting committee. I i would like to amend our previous motion to spend all that money on beer and have that goes towards a joint bid between you and me to become the new owners of bolton wanderers wanderers football club. Oh i already put my eight dollars down for berry so i think that i get a fifty percent controlling interest to that former football club. That's now been completely. He dropped out of the league. After i think it was one hundred fifteen years hundred and thirty four years oh man it's depressing day in soccer and then i have to add to that's the sad news that colin clarke passed away today thirty thirty five years old former colorado rapid heart attack. Isn't that what they were saying died of a heart attack. He also played for colorado rush. She was a youth development player for rush and i watched him at an open cup game tonight. Being the open cup final <hes> <unk> an open cup game a qualifier between rush and <hes> harpo is back in two thousand fifteen so <hes> and the harpist fans were really getting getting on calling our <hes> and he was he was dug it up to because he was pissed off and it was an it was an enjoyable thing he was clearly a class player player back then you know still at the age of thirty one much props to a guy who's a former m._l._s. perot still banging down in the in the colorado premier league so oh you know it was it was all around weird day in soccer. We had a new coach for the rapids. <hes> departing dearly departed player for the rapids and two major english professional clubs basically dissolve all in one day so if berries going away if you're buying berry mark are you allowed to not have any ownership stake in bolton like are we like is the red is the rabbi and read darby going to take over that rivalry to where you resurrect burry and then i resurrect bolton wanderers like we play in the fifth division next year. You're already over thinking this way too much. I mean i think it's an interesting question. <hes> the better interesting question to to take it serious. You were trying to flip but to take it seriously. <hes> there are two big questions and <hes> that come out of this which we are not going to explore because we are not an english premier league financing podcast question one is if a historic club can get financially put in administration which is what the british people call bankruptcy <hes> is something deeply wrong with english soccer that it needs to be fixed and the second question that goes off this is based based on our witty banter about buying club which is very funny but like isn't is fan ownership or local ownership a by a consortium of fans possibly unnecessary a function moving forward in professional soccer. <hes> there are at at least two or three clubs in the u._s. That have done there are two or three clubs in england that have done. It and i don't know if you know this man. You probably do everything <hes> in germany. It's a requirement. Fifty plus wouldn't rule. There's a great <hes> copa ninety video about this folks that goes on and a very layman's approaches search copa ninety and then probably bundesliga ownership or probably be the first thing that comes up now to some degree. I mean the challenge of this. Is that number going into the weeds but this is fun banter <hes> <unk>. The challenge of this is that a lot of people know that the green bay packers are also a team that are technically publicly owned and yet if you're a packers fan you realistically have twenty shares of packers stock which you get a certificate for the new mounts on your wall in you get zero back from it like you can't do anything with that. It doesn't appreciate <hes> you know. It's just basically you know. Pardon the expression. It's a scam. It's just a total rip off. They don't seem to have any like actual voting interest whereas by contrast <hes> a._f._c. wimbledon and in a club that i very much like which is called a polecat damone in jerusalem give the fans and annual voting meeting where they have to do things like approved approved the slate of executive board committee members they have to approve the hiring of the executive director <hes> and they get to have a conversation about whether the you now manager is being successful or not when his contract comes up <hes> not necessarily they don't necessarily get to choose but if they all vote down to the executive board disguises a joke then they fire the manager. I mean like if you're my point is if you're gonna make <hes> fan ownership thing you oughta make it a real thing. You ought to actually give the fans an actual stake in the matter but anyway now. I guess the thing that responded with that markelle. There was a really good article article. I don't remember where it's from so i apologize but i've plugged it on a bunch of on all my social media pretty much was an article that came out maybe two three years ago and it basically basically said that you're getting in the same way that there's economic stratification within all of these major democracies including the united states where there's like fifty fifty people who own more wealth than the bottom thirty percent and the top one percent owns more than the bottom fifty percent basically as the primarily teams continue to get got more and more money basically like league one and league two teams are like the millennium falcon sputtering and just trying to you know make that kessel run on barely barely enough gas and it's just an absolute hunk of junk and so you know where i think you have you know the pro rail for u._s._a. Crowd that i think is valid and saying that you know u._s. The u._s. soccer institute pro row next season and you immediately won't have a total collapse of the pyramid but you will. I think have collapse of clubs and we've seen seen this in other places in europe. We've seen this on other continents where a club goes into administration or declared bankruptcy or ceases to exist and then you know a phoenix club comes out of that i have preferred united is a good example of that. In the lower nonleague divisions of england. Obviously buri is a pro approaching that at clifton bolton wanderers aren't far behind them and you know most of these bremmer league teams on annual operations budget are running at a deficit and a lot of these clubs such as fulham football club who spent one hundred million pounds in the transfer window. We're basically banking on spending a bunch of money. A main- maintain not getting relegated and then maintaining that level of funding so you're just constantly. It's just another roll. The dice for a lot of these lower level cubs aren't backed by oil bearing in countries from the middle east area and i remember another statistic marcus might be old. I might be missing remembering but i think at one point in the entire italian professional all the divisions that they had there was one club that was not operating on a deficit and so you know i think there's one on my other friends who is a british ex. Pat says if you want to become a millionaire become a billionaire i and then by a soccer team and so i think it's an interesting question as you know the the prize at the top and you know the top one percent of clubs continue to make excessive amounts of money and have so much more bankrolling and able to burn through everything on transfer fees and everything what happens to those middle tier clubs and what happens those clubs at the bottom and just because it's good for barcelona real madrid or even just because it's good for lita doesn't doesn't mean it's good for the spanish in third and fourth division and we could say the same thing about all the other pyramids as well <hes> nevertheless the pyramid screen that is major league soccer. Yeah i think it'd be good to kind of wrap this conversation by saying that you know both matinee are smart college educated dudes and we generally have a lot of misgivings about the financial models of soccer. It's really uncomfortable. It doesn't feel like it's properly structured major league soccer. One of the conversations going on for a long time is whether there's a bit of a bubble on major league soccer or whether it's more of you know i i don't agree but i know a lot of people think that it is quote unquote a ponzi the scheme that the whole expansion fee thing is the way by which the league is financing itself. I don't entirely believe that because i think the league finances dances itself on teams being roughly break even but the value of of a thing appreciating so like what makes really quickly what makes <music> van goghs <hes> wildflowers a painting worth forty one million dollars the reasonably old now because someone really league values somebody values than go and somebody values that painting. Somebody believes that unique piece of art. <hes> is really worth forty. One million dollars versus the painting that my daughter did this morning in first grade which nobody will pay for like they're both pieces of art. You know it's just the eye of the beholder other and soccer soccer teams are the same day appreciate because they're a very rare commodity and people really want them <hes> if they ever stopped being in rare or if people decided they weren't valuable than people wouldn't buy them so that's like the that's the broader thing. Is that like you know. You need to be able to run your club. At at least you know roughly <hes> a zero you now to be in the black as they say you don't need if you're buying a soccer her club because you think it's gonna make you rich. You're more on <hes> but as a as a if you're a billionaire and you buy a soccer club you hope at least it doesn't lose you too much money in you. You can flip it for a small profit down the road but the thing is over and over again. Let's talk actual soccer. Instead of soccer finance matt alright markelle. We're going to keep this brief refocus mostly because we don't want to get we don't wanna give like p._t._s._d. To all of your listeners but mark this past saturday at the rotea the colorado rapids were defeated by real salt lake by score of kunal. I think a good first half for the pids. If you ask me it was the twenty seven th minute where you had a chaotic sequence in which tommy smith heads the balk now nick romano stops it. I think kamara had one or two shots at the ball one of which that like nick romano like spiked out of the air like while falling down as well and then openly lawless abu boubacar had another shot and that ends up going out relatively even the rest of the first half you have the the <hes> redcar to kamara in the eighty ninth minute <hes> you know pretty cut and dry for me as far as the ball comes in and he had no real chance chance at getting to it and he sticks his leg out trying to get a touch and you know he comes in late on brooks lennon after lennon had already headed the ball far away. That's pretty clear for me. Even though i know some rapid's fans at least on twitter were upset about it given that there was an actual contact. I think that that type of challenges something. I don't wanna see in our soccer nation nation and so <hes> fouls punishments that deter that behavior is a good thing in the net get in the long term as far as american soccer's occurs concern demure croat scores a goal but it ends up being offsides because <hes> jack price completely whiffs on an absolute karen some there and then shop latta in stoppage time time draws a p._k. Converts in varina beats howard on the end. I mean just is there anything. We want to say about this mark. I feel like you know we'll get to this in a couple of minutes when we actually we talk about the big news but i mean the rapids clinker officially turn the page on the twenty twenty you know they're nine points last night check ahead of f._c. Cincinnati for the wooden spoon and so there comfortably outside the wooden spoon race comfortably outside the playoff race and last thing for them to play for was going to be the rocky mountain cup and that obviously ended this saturday saturday. I feel like most people are checking out in terms of actual results wins losses and the standings for two hundred nineteen in that. Is there anything that we gleaned from or care about in this game <unk> last saturday. I think the only thing i will say is that if you look at expected goals so one of the great things that american soccer analysis now doing by game expected goals you can see did my team deserves to win that game and they're actually updating it right. After the game they were taking about a half a week or a week to do it and now so you just pull it up and and look at american soccer analysis dot com <hes> expected goals by game so for this last game salt lake scored two goals and had had an home expected goals rate of one point nine meaning the on they played a very average game a very average goalkeeper made exactly the stops he who is supposed to make in a very average goalkeeper missed the stops that he wasn't gonna make and that's being tim howard we're talking about <hes> on the other side of things <hes> colorado colorado had two point four two expected goals and scored zero meaning that by rights based on the shots. They took in the positions. They took the numbers of shots. The colorado rapids should have won that game two to one or really two point four to one point nine fine. Although you can't score point four goal we all know that matt cooper. The rapid scored zero goals. I think it goes to a point you made briefly flee in the recap which is nick rondo had a great game and by the way discipline if you look at goalkeepers remond does near the bottom of worst goalkeepers keepers in m._l._s. season. He just had an exceptional game. I don't know what overcame him. I don't know what it was but he he really pulled those that you you had you had that great mention of any should go look up the highlights. If you didn't see this game he has a goal where he basically closet away from almost behind them and it's really leave remarkable. It was an incredible save. I forget who shot at but <hes> you know this was a game that colorado and salt lake played. You know on <music> on t._v. It looked like a draw basically. They're both teams. Were very good in yet. Salt lake kinda grinded all the way to the end and then end scored two at the death. <hes> you know if i wanted to be cliche i would say this was a game about who wanted it more. I don't really believe that but <hes> the rapid rapids kind of like faded in the final ten minutes and i think that that was <hes> all she wrote. That's the kind of thing that happens on the road. You know that's that's what happens when you leave the rocky mountain cup to your road game instead of trying to lock it up at home. Yeah no market points on that. I'll just say that two points first of all one thing that i want to amend or or give the listeners and idea to think about when they also look at x. Goals remember listeners that this is just calculating every single shot. I think the advanced analytics approaching. You know someone who's looking at it from how i do. My own stats analysis professionally. Mark is that you look at the rapids head you know three or four of those chances from you know like one or two yards out on that one sequence in the twenty-seventh minute for example and so you had a bunch of those chances and so an ex goals just looks at that x. Schools counts each one of those shots and the distances away as its own separate events so i haven't looked at the top of my head. I'm going to assume mark that most shots that occur within two yards of the goal line. That's probably a really really high x goals. You know as opposed to you know any shot outside. The box is going to be like point. Oh five five. I percents going in and then shots in the box. You know might be a tent. You know might be ten percent if the angles really really good so not scoring on those could have potentially inflate flavor. The rapids chances whereas reality if you don't play that out if tommy smith scores header than kai can't score on the follow ups and lawless can't score on the fourth chances dances well so you say that those are four chances that potentially the rapids could have those aren't four rolls of the dice. Those are four rolls of the dice. Were as soon as you hit you know as soon as you hit double sixes on one of those you don't get any more roles on that chance for example so i mean you know if you just if i'm paying the ball off the goalkeeper's head head fifty times in a row just because i can't shoot anywhere that isn't his head and those are fifty chances from one yard out that all backup as far as schools are concerned that could potentially lead to fifty goals or multiple goals. It's one whole sequence and you can only score one goal on sequence. If one of those chances goes in none of the chances afterwards happened so i don't know offhand from the individual chances how much that buffet up mark but that one sequence and the series of saves by raimondo and blocks by ourselves offenders could have inflated the rapids ex school such that you thought that they were actually a better team when maybe that was really lucky or it was just all of their chances coming in a sequence as opposed to the rapids producing fibers ever six high quality chances from right in front of goal throughout the game all of which individually could have been a goal independent of the other shooting opportunities. I think that's a great point point. I think i think once in a while winning out that like expected goals has some small flaws to it or that. You need to watch games and not just look at metrics. Israeli valid and i also think that what you said there that was really good. Is that like you know to boil it down to one <unk> sentence if you're in a sequence like that. Where are your peppering the goal with shots. If one of them goes in after like two or three put backs <hes> put back attempts <hes> you you only lose that game two to one if you're you don't get two goals because they all came in the same sequence that was well sad <hes> but nonetheless i think colorado probably really should have could have might have gotten out of there with a one one draw but they didn't or nothing but they didn't yeah i guess to to that point mark and it was something i was gonna make but then you set me up perfectly for that is this game for me was so emblematic of the rapid season lots of opportunities some decent decent plays not great place and then ultimately mistakes that ultimately ended up letting it go away like if i were to sum up any individual game to say this is so so symbolic of the two thousand nine hundred colorado rapids you know at least in the we'll throw out the first ten games obviously because that was an outlier and obviously hudson and wasn't going to be part of the club afterwards words in terms of just the narrative of the middle of the season of getting results being a little bit lucky sometimes getting outplayed bang flat playing bad opponents during that seven game mm-hmm unbeaten streak and then you know largely. It's been you know slightly fluky win close game that they get a draw or they get a win or they get a loss and then other games where they're completely outplayed and it looks. It's like you know clearly that they don't deserve to be in the playoffs. This was a game that i think summed up a lot of the problems. Despite some of the good things that the teams improved on twenty nineteen and and for me like this game like this ninety minutes or you know the ninety nine after you count all the minutes of stoppage time that was another thing it perfectly summed up the twenty nine thousand nine season <hes> yup. That's well said i think <hes> i think understanding that maybe we had all of our lucky games in twenty sixteen if you you look at the math or if you look at the numbers from twenty sixteen the rapids won a tremendous number of <hes> not only wins by one goal but also wins lately lately asked a seventy fifth minute and maybe they extended all their lock for the decade in one year all right mark. Let's move on very briefly. Just for the sake of completeness completeness to the new york red bulls colorado rapids listeners this coming saturday. The colorado rapids will be traveling to red bull arena. They'll be taking on the pink cows cows it will be a five pm mountain standard time kickoff on altitude and e._s._p._n. Plus for some of our listeners who are nebraska or maybe even scandinavia since we've got a few we we might still have some shubert listening. Maybe not some bloomberg's anymore mark but in any case new york rebels currently fourth in the eastern conference forty one points off of twenty eight games played a twelve eleven and five record with a plus five goal differential and they are eight four into at r._b._i. The season the rapids i think just by goal differential if i'm not mistaken yes or no excuse me by games played and then off of having one more win than vancouver on the rapids up to eleventh in the western conference. They have twenty seven points off twenty games played. We are now twenty seven thirty four th through the twenty nine thousand nine colorado rapids death march mark. They have a record of seven seven fourteen in six a negative eleven goal differential and a road record of one four one eight and four that loan wind coming against these la timeless elegance l. a. galaxy. I just really briefly mark. I'm going to assume our listeners are aware enough that they know that bradley wright phillips is on the new york red bulls. They have cuckoo and danny royer who who are both mary fantastic players probably one of the best back lines in m._l._s. You obviously have louis rebels from goal aaron long tim parker centreback kemar lawrence who you know if if like if kemar lawrence fallen into latte for the rapids and somehow sam vines could move into a different role. I think it'd be an absolute blast for the rapids to be excited about him as opposed to edgar casio alder respect mark birch any case. I'll stop being a kemar lawrence fan case marco. What are you seeing this game. Do we care about it. Happy on the narrative of robin frazier's first games head manager of the rapids is against the team. He was insistent for after getting fired chiefs u._s._a. And then also presumed pending a miraculous comeback for the rapids and making the play offs and then somehow making m._l._s. cup against the red bulls this will be the final game in the new new york new jersey area for one tim howard well. I also want to add one other named the pile of names that we like to talk about which is <hes> mark rutkowski muskie who is the is the midfielder and has the best nickname i think in soccer so his his <hes> polish sounding although german-born name <hes> <hes> starts with an r. z. n. a. meaning and so <hes> red bulls fans refer to him as the rizza which is just wooten name which is about as perfect as a guest in my humble opinion <hes> yeah you're right. I mean the rapids have a really hard time away to red bowl. I remember the last two games. They played their and they really struggled. I also remember the home games they've played against rebel <hes> and they did pretty darn well so <hes> away to red bull is like almost unwinnable. I think it's just an absolutely something arena when folks folks are excited. <hes> and i think you're right. I think the only narrative of this game is. Let's see what robin fraser can do. We'll talk more about robin frazier in in the next segment but <hes> i think rapids fans are gonna be excited to see how he lines up who he starts. I think a basic simple question is is he gonna try and just have the exact same lineup in the exact same formation and tactics as conor casey since casey has found some decent success. That's what this team and just say like. Oh you know we'll just play out the string and let's not complicate the guys. It's only been a week or is he gonna try and do something radical indifferent to just start off awesome <unk> my guess would be to lean towards the former that he's not gonna mess with things and i don't know that there's much hope that we win. This game. <hes> based on that i it's very hard the week after to get a team to transition to a new manager and find that it's it's gonna work immediately immediately so we'll really see that's i think only the only thing fans are are really going to be looking for is <hes> who gets who gets put on the lineup card hard and what they if there is going to be anything noticeably different about the way they play yeah good point there mark. I guess maybe the one thing that i'll say on this front is as you know. Everybody was kind of you know. The one thing that i think is a fair assessment in terms of just looking at these different coaches and maybe something that will gain an insight on in the coming months from robin frazier is just the assignments that they had you know clearly. Anthony hudson on some level was asked to execute the not the rapids way at the risk of the immediate results that was facing the team so he would rather have a team is winning the possession battle trying to create some chances clearly not there and then lose two or three one at home to an eastern conference team than simply to try and get a result this week and we saw a lot of hashtag that keep fighting pablo ball approaches from one conor casey albeit from someone who is a former forward in this league and then was able to scheme offensive ideas. Obviously we had a lot more weapons than i think. Twenty seventeen iteration of the rapids pablo was kneeling within pablo. Mastroeni ultimately got fired from that team but i'm kind of correa's to see you know where's the mindset from the t now because everybody was kind of just waiting in limbo just focus on every single week and now you know if you're a guy who's not guaranteed indeed a contract for twenty twenty. If you're a guy who has a team option and you know has been maligned on the last two managers such as a one tommy smith for example you know no. You're potentially playing for your job right now. You have to do something in training to impress the manager to think that you know you can work in my system and you can in your player who should be here and has value to us in twenty twenty and then if not if nothing else you know you're trying to put together one more highlight tackle or or pass or goal or something you know to be part of your highlight reel that your agents going to click together and put towards other other clubs trying to sign you so there's a couple of european european players who i think given their salaries situation and maybe you know coming here under the guise of playing under hudson and now being under an american manager who might have more domestic team team other than some key european stars khanna like we saw with toronto f._c. Albeit with canadian stars given the rosser situation that toronto had and obviously if the new york red bulls outside outside of the big. G._p.'s tom terry on res and the not is it was it tim cahill the australian. I think yeah tim k hill as well so oh you know there's a decent possibility mark that tommy smith is playing and has to impress robin fraser to get his twenty twenty contract option exercise. Oh danny wilson there were some rumblings about interest and maybe the rapids could get out from under his twenty twenty guaranteed contracts. They're looking at that whereas jack prices head right now since i assume there's at least one middling championship or league one club that would probably be willing to take a flyer on him and there's a bunch of american players who didn't really rate for or connor casey or even anthony hudson for an extended period that i think would have value within this league is a trade ad set. We've talked about actual shubert. We've talked about concern. Maybe even a for example and then i guess now we'll get into this markelle. Everybody was back with the rapids is training today. I was at training and reported on this. The homegrown home-grown bassett and sebastian andersen last week were sent down for the remainder of the season were immediately recalled nikki jackson back from charlotte independence. Every single player who who had a first team contract for twenty twenty with the rapids at the start of the season was in training and robin frazier. I think this week is going to be taking a full audit of the players players what they have and everything and that's going to color how he approaches the game against new york and everything else in. I'm assuming the court ford was not there air or if he was there was not i did not see court for it. At training i also did not see excuse me so life fact check thank you mark. I did not see court forty hordic training and then obviously tim howard would have been on your television right about noontime. Talk about champions league folks so those players were not there. Declan win was president but he was not actively participated in training. He's coming back from injury. <hes> and then kai kamara was there but he checked out a little bit earlier mark on he has has <hes>. I don't know if you saw this but he made up with the sierra leone federation about that where potentially he was gonna get suspended indefinitely so he's good to go. He'll be with them for their world. Cup qualifier as will go out to buy who's been playing very well the last month or so switchback so they'll both be unavailable on international duty not so i presume kyw will probably be serving that suspension for the red card against ourselves not this weekend but against the is it. The sounders or is it toronto ronald seed. It's coming up next. I want to say it's i think it's the sounders that are coming up on the week's from saturday. Well done okay. I'm i'm with that mark. I think it's probably time for us to give our listeners. The rundown of robin frazier's resume as a soccer player and head coach. Shall we do it aright listeners. Robin frazier is was born in kingston jamaica u._s. player internationally. He played from nineteen eighty eight to two two thousand. One only had twenty seven caps of the center back was not much of a feature in any of the major world cup qualifiers off the top of my head. At least he was not a part of the nineteen ninety-four squad where he potentially would have overlapped with marcelo balboa grew up in miami actually went to miami palmetto high school. Just a couple of miles away from the university. Miami was an f._b._i. Golden panther at the college level spent some time with the miami sharks was later with the colorado foxes wearing the old school green in the mid nineties nineties mark and then when emily came into existence in one thousand nine hundred six he signed with the galaxy was with pam until the year two thousand one hundred and twenty nine games and there i i believe was part of their runner ups to m._l._s. cop and want to support her. She'll as a player with them. In one thousand nine hundred ninety eight as well and then he made his way back to colorado he was with the pigs from two thousand one until two thousand and three played seventy four games before finishing his career in the middle of the two point. Oh with columbus crew in excess of hundred caps as a professional and as an international after that i guess he took a year off in in two thousand six and then in two thousand seven he was an assistant with real salt lake under then jason. Kreis was a part of their two thousand nine. M._l._s. cup run. That was successful mark. They got his first opportunity with chivas usa after the jesse mar sasha question brag era and then at that point chivas usa multi the forum that old school m._l._s. fans will remember just effectively being a feeder team for the league max club not being really well funded being a complete disaster from the business standpoint and just no real strategy for how to you know how to gain relevancy in los angeles market that was still very much dominated by the galaxy at that time under the sigi smith i at ration- of the clobbered then also frank yallop in there as well you know they had the infamous tarps on you. You know the stadium at stubhub. They were a tenant. They were renting not really great situation for them. Robin fraser was fired after just his second season with them. A record of fifteen thirty two and twenty one not very good market just based on how we saw everything else go on with that club. I'm not sure you know put bradley in charge of achievers u._s._a. Put ola in charge of jesus u._s._a. In that time and i'm not sure the results are any better. <hes> robin frazier then moves on to be an assistant with the new york dark red bulls where he was under the now unemployed mike pecci. I'm from two thousand thirteen to two thousand fourteen spent some time with terry on rian there. I believe as a coach one supporter shield or no they didn't twenty thirty in two thousand fourteen twenty thirteen yeah and then obviously made his his way to toronto f._c. Where he was with them up until i assume this week or maybe even last week so he was with them from two thousand fifteen to twenty one thousand nine hundred a couple of supporters shields roads are obviously pamelas. Cop the run to the noc copa america. Excuse me the final you know where they were. One penalty kick way off. Oh from winning that in the entire time that robin frazier was there. He was under <hes> greg vanney. You know who's mired at least for me. Mark is one of the best american coaches his m._l._s. right now mark. What do you make of robin frazier. The former player robin fraser the assistant coach and ultimately the the person who has cultivated it and developed over the course of the last decade as a coach walking in and taking over the colorado rapids a lot of questions matt a lot of questions <hes> but that in both senses of the phrase i think one is really important or exciting for a person who manages the colorado rapids to have a personal connection connection to the team. I think that was a challenge with anthony hudson <hes> and that's gonna sound kinda ridiculous in the sense that like <hes> pablo mastroeni conor casey both i had personal connections to the club as former players so maybe i'm judging anthony hudson harshly but it helps to some degree to have a person person who comes to colorado and wants to be part of it because they feel a kinship with the club feel a connection to the badge. They know the city city. You know they know that when you get confused <hes> when you when you're driving and you're not really sure which way you're going you just look up and figure out which way the mountains are and then you know like that's the thing right like you know where the good ice cream places are and to and to have a sense of like you. Don't get on colorado boulevard on friday afternoon. Four o'clock at these are things for people but real thing a sense of the place i think n. N this is gonna sound like a nostalgic <hes> wistful pining from a guy who just visited colorado a couple of days ago and no longer lives there there because it is but also because <hes> it's very true. You know miami's gonna gonna have to <hes> you know. Miami has the cachet of being miami and new york and chicago in l. a. new york chicago l._a. For international managers there's for <hes> even former m._l._s. players were high quality. M._l._s. assistance in coaches colorado is a place you change planes in. It's not a place that people know but once you've visited there spent time there or lived there for <unk> amount of time. You feel like i would really like to live up there again and those are. That's an important thing to be honest for rapids manager because we're not gonna get bruce arena. We're not gonna get todd martina. We're not gonna get back artioli like they're not coming. You know if i got a guy from the austrian league you know who's used to the alps and everything but that's about it. May we're just we're just not gonna get a coach. Who says you know i only want to go to a <hes> high falutin luton fancy team. We're just not that so what we need to be is a little bit liquor. You know we need to be the kind of team that comes from from a flyover state but people understand that it is an absolutely beautiful place to be like peter vermes is at or in kansas city for reason like he is connected to them. <hes> otherwise kansas city is a place that you accidentally stumbled through on your way by the cornfields like so that's thing that that that robin fraser is a good pick because he honestly has a connection to the club and he'd probably actually wants to be there whereas anthony hudson at best was looking at steppingstone worse was like well new zealand work out well. This'll pay me a bunch of money now second the most exciting thing <hes> before i turn it back to you is to ask the question like what kind of soccer is he going to play and gonna fit with the quote unquote rapids way that pork smith laid out a few years ago and i think the answer to that is it looks from the early press conference which you covered and i'm going to ask you about <hes> that he has an attacking mindset and he wants nice to play interesting pretty soccer and not play kind of dire depressing soccer <hes> the way pablo mastroeni did nothing wrong in my humble opening with way master any played <hes> it just felt like it was moving in the direction of being part of a bygone era of m._l._s. where you could a grind out results and win the cop. It's been a long time since of very highly defensive team won everything and am alas <hes> <hes> you really need in the new era to be able to do some razzle dazzle and work your way down the field and score goals so it feels like robin. Frazier is a good pick from those two reasons. What are you seeing in robin frazier. Why might he be a good pick and most importantly <hes> you cover the press conference conference. What did you learn at the press conference yeah so i'll start with your your first question there and i actually in doing. I did more for this than i do. Normally my interviews folks. This is the inside baseball part of it but i'm thinking about the angle of the article or whatever i'm reporting on is i'm thinking about who i'm talking to and the type of personality that is the types of questions and the way i'd go about it with a jack. Price is different from how i go about it with kamara. You know there are a bunch of guys who are going. They give you short little clips just because they want to and then there are some of the guys who actually want to have a philosophical conversation and some i need to poke and prod and you know go about choosing my questions is in there so in order to frame myself for this interview or for just the press conference and everything not having interviewed robin frazier before anything was. I started back with the origin story for really how we got here. Mark and i think the origin for that you know i think has to go back to the op-ed from the rapids two years ago with the denver post. Yes you know about the rapid sway and so the key thing that i'm looking at right now and or that i looked at when doing my preparation i don't wanna fully turn this podcast new anthony hudson bashing shing session but where maybe i'm seeing how robin frazier is going to be a better fit. Here is one thing that poor accessing the op-ed so we want to be a high intensity team team. That's willing to take calculated risks in the right areas of the field but all the while maintaining the defensive discipline that is part and parcel with who we are and always has been and so when i initially when i what i remember about the rapids way was thinking you know maybe just just in my own thought process was that this is. We need to be an attractive. We need to be an attacking team. That plays attractive possessing possession soccer and you saw times i want hudson was i think closest to eat his ethos and his modus operandi from an approach to the game from phases of play. Tim formation to how he approached games is is that he would rather in a season where he where it was a stepping stone for the club and making progress he would rather go out there against a good would eastern conference team possess the ball out shoot them lose the x. goals battle and ultimately lose three one if it was an approach towards that but in a lot of ways i feel like hudson on the paradigm between you know benny ball and pablo tactics and ticky tack on whatever you wanna call pep guardiola man city right now you you know anthony hudson was closer to that attack inside and rereading the rapids way. I just immediately thought <hes> maybe anthony maybe pork was thinking you know as opposed to if one one is you know the pablo pablo mastroeni and ben olsen and ten is <hes> pep guardiola and and lionel messi and everything you know he was effectively lee sang the rapids are at a two and we maybe need to go to a four and at times be a six and so when i remember talking to robin frazier about about this i remember abby mood from the burgundy wave asked a great question about just implementing and style of play and everything and at one point i think robin frazier had probably the most real he'll statement i've ever seen from a head coach in their first press conference of you know it was effectively head managers come in and they got the job and they do the press conference that they say we're gonna play attractive possession attacking soccer and he said you know the reality is is that a is that you know it doesn't matter if you're an attractive attacking team that scores much of goals also if you if you also let in a bunch of goals a club that while i was here when they were most successful focused on defense i but had an idea about how to go oh into the attack and had an actual systematic approach to that and frazier said in his interview on extratime radio in me when i spoke with him and then in the general opening statement as well l. that he had ideas about the defensive side of the ball at sheva say he did not have attacking ideas when he was achieves u._s._a. He learned about in york red bulls and he said that he learned a lot from greg vanney about that approach. Obviously he's going to be more defensive guy. As a centre back we saw the same thing with mastroeni a former holding midfielder and we've i've seen conor casey had some better ideas on the attacking side of the ball being a former forward you know having the most goals in rapid history but just everything that i got in the sense of a question about the rapids way or style of play or how he's going to execute or improve the team is defense is still going to be number one but we have to have a better systematic approach each to creating chances and finishing those chances and we need to have players in order to do that. That's something that pablo never really had it was not anything that he ever oh really emphasized and it was nothing and it seemed like anthony hudson was not self aware to realize that taking a team that in two thousand seventeen would only score or one or maybe score one goal a game but could regularly shut out good teams at diaz g park. It doesn't like flipping it to where you're a good offensive team but a terrible herbal a good offensive team but a terrible defensive team doesn't really help you and i think everything that that i was noticing just from the theme of what frazier was sang was we are going to instill foundation of what we're doing from a defensive side and i have the tactical analytical ideas and you know maybe a better sense of of players to attract to the club they can help us be effective in some of those phases of play or to go back to you know the actual the cannon that we're talking talking about in the rapids way being team that is high intensity and takes calculated risks in the right areas of the field. That was something that pablo mastroeni team was not very good at that was a thing that anthony hudson teams took a bunch of uncalculated risks all over the place and something that i think conor casey stabilized albeit in a very very finite approach and i think frazier clearly has an idea or believe that he has an ideal to execute the rapids way and closer to a three or four on that scale where pablo it was a one or two and hudson was doing very tolerable job of being a seven or an eight one being defensive rapid rapid slug live and ten being trying c._b._s. L. a._f._c. right now. What was your next question mark. There's a bunch of stuff in there. Mostly asked what the press conference. I think that was the most important question for me. Okay i asked i asked fraser directly about his thoughts on the rapids de academy and the young players and everything and he said in his time at toronto keeping in in mind that greg vanney was originally the academy director folks before he got the full-time gig with toronto f._c. And he brought in guys like a jonathan sawyer who appraised on this podcast and said cole bassett could get to being jonathan and soil that would be pan tastic and frazier just said you know i have a mindset for young players from a mentorship intercept standpoint how i think how it can help them develop and just on approach the seemed to be you know really grounded seemed to be grounded in patients and you would just gradual talking i when i was at training mark and you know this is kind of hard to gauge just because it's the first one but there were regular times during drills during scrimmages in which fraser fraser would just completely blow the whistle completely interrupt the face of play and everything that was going on and talk for three or four minutes straight engaging a bunch of different players talking about about things in really detail from what i could tell you know and normally some of the other coaches we've seen i won't go through. What every single one of them does you know. They might talk to an they might stop things to talk to to the individual. They might stop things to at the end of the drill to talk about things that was going on. Frazier immediately stopped things okay. This isn't right. You guys aren't understanding something. Let's actually talk about there. Were tactical. Teaching moments and frazier talked about wanting to have those tactical teaching moments for those young players and you know having them be more about progress progress so apply. If i were to apply this to an educational standpoint mark that you might be able to relate to you know he was focusing on growth more so than what's the other one in the context of like standardized tests growth versus acumen. I think i guess <laughter> okay yeah so he focused more on growth and so he didn't talk a lot about the rapids d._a. Specifically typically just because he was new and who knows how many times he's actually spoken to brian crookham so far but besides hi my name's robyn frazier hi my name's brian crookham but you know he said that he recognized denies the talent that's there. He says that even just in the first couple of training sessions he sees a lot of potential in all the homegrown players and you know that he thinks that he can put authentic to be successful and i think is track record working under greg vanney <hes> with all the homegrown toronto f._c. Had from <hes> suba endo to <hes> come to jonathan her story. Oh i think is a good you know a good track record or show that i think that you know young coal and young savon sam combines are in good hands from that standpoint for the rapids and you know he's going to be a lot more pragmatic and i think careful with them and made we've seen from other coaches <hes> and then i also had there was one question that we have and also address mark <hes> conor casey was not at training and it's since been confirmed by portsmouth smith that conor casey was offered the opportunity to stay as an assistant with the club robin fraser my understanding had given that blessing and then also he was was offered the opportunity to be the new head manager for the rest of the season and then into twenty twenty with colorado springs switchback and casey turn both of those down so o'connor casey is now officially no longer affiliated with the colorado rapids and i guess for all intents and all intent and purpose is unemployed at this point and who knows you know you might be able to speak better mark as far as a u._s. L. team that might would you might be able to fit in with what conor casey's done for the last two or three months but that's at least disappointing for me. 'cause that tells me mark that you know casey didn't want to sit around to be assistant under a new third head manager manager and i think clearly maybe he thought that he had done enough to steady the ship. I don't want to speak for conor casey. I think he certainly i. I would be willing to bet money that he left the club on better terms than certainly pablo mastroeni did the day that he was fired her certainly paul bravo the day that he quit this kind kind of just the fact that he didn't want to hang around and maybe the club shortchanged him or you know maybe secretly. We're gonna find out in the next couple of weeks as the u._s. L. season you know winds lines down that you know somebody else. Give him an opportunity and it's an opportunity that frankly is better than what the switch backs are dealing with right now. I i am surprised is that he didn't wanna take the switchback job. It seems like a good move <hes> to get your foot in the door the u._s. team so now that kinda blows blows my mind in the sense of like what's the next step for conor casey. I mean my assumption. One of these subjects that i could make is that <hes> you get paid really well to fill in for a fired manager because there are many other options and you know that being an interim is a terrible the job in the sense that you have negative job security. I mean almost without without without the possibility except for the possibility many of total miracle occurring conor casey stepped into a job where he knew it wasn't gonna last like you. You're taking a temp job where you could be relieve your duties at any any moment at <unk> with no rice out any of your performance being a factor in that so i wonder i wonder off the bat like what his motivation was is in turning down the job in saying i'm i'm. I'm not gonna take the cars springs <unk> assistant job and my gut tells me i could be wrong is that he felt hurt like he really kinda psyched himself up into thinking that he might actually have shot at being the full time mm manager when the team said we don't want you as full time manager he said well then. I don't really want to be affiliated organization. I'll take my chances somewhere else. He might be smart smart. I mean honestly the the the first call you make after you're relieved of your duty your agent say that look like for me twenty four hours and you when you find out what the agent can suss out for you and maybe the agent has a couple of smart moose for you. Maybe the agents says you know what is like four new u._s. Sell teams coming online next year. <hes> you have a really good resume. There's another ten emma u._s._o. Clubs who are going to fire their managers bundesliga experienced and there are a lot of league one teams that might want you like you. Don't need to jump at the first job that comes across your plate. So <hes> does god is it either. He was hurt or his his agent said you could do better than this crappy job. In colorado springs said there mark <hes> you know maybe a couple of things i know noticed i spoke with pork after the press conference and everything and i asked him about robin frazier's approach to roster building and then in particular what they're going to do with the two dp slots <hes> and then also just <hes> robin frazier's approach as far as <hes> fitness and analytics obviously the sports science department and the the fran taylor's others of the world have been built out in the last two seasons with the rapids so pork actually kind of alluded to the fact that when they were looking around for other teams to model what what they wanted to do from atlanta analytic standpoint he noted that toronto of c. was one of those that that that was a major factor in there and they were very familiar with that staff and everything the thing and they spoke very highly of robin frazier so you know maybe that was. Maybe that's coincidental. Maybe that's slim thinking. We want another analytics guy. Who's maybe going to run and do something with that and robin fraser was good fit on with that but <hes> frazier seems to believe that approach as far as analyzing players and analyzing teams <hes> from from analytical standpoint in terms of what they wanna do from phases of play <hes> you know and then obviously as a player who's used to playing at altitude and you know had hashtag strength altitude from two thousand one two thousand and three. That's maybe not something that's going to be emphasized by robin fraser but something that he's going to be aware of and is going to you know factor that into his approach and maybe he'll have a healthier approach being a former player who had to play in it when emily was very physical and then obviously you know you're with toronto of see that a you know is a world class training facility or at least on an analyst level you know one of the best training facilities and medical staffs and if you're one of those guys who's regularly coaching michael bradley the who in his early thirties was destroying the beep test relative to other u._s. Internationals he's going to have an understanding of fitness and maybe approach so you know from a lester crony and wade and say you know pablo or or anthony approached it as well <hes>. Do we want to thank your fitness. Point was great. I just wanted to comment on that. I don't think i think we've gone. We have to go all the way back to mass ready to see a coach who understood that altitude altitude was a thing that you can use as an extra weapon weaponize it i don't. I don't think hudson understood how i think hudson. I actually played against it a lot of time. I don't think he maximize the a possible home field advantage and i think you know i'm not gonna check right now but like like i'm sure that his home wrecker wasn't very good and he it it was partially because he didn't really understand how to maximize altitude. <hes> an oh casey the sample size is probably small to know whether he he understood what to do. There were a lot of questions. Mark put out on rapid. Tiny six podcasts casts folks. You know i just said you know hey what's everybody's reaction to robin frazier and then it was kind of span the gamut but there was a lot of cautiously optimistic a lot of we'll wait and z. I'm you know i'm not gonna gamble out. I'm not gonna you know render an opinion or decision now on this <hes> and there were a lot of people who maybe talk less about the decision or the person and more so talked about the timing of it you know obviously you know we alluded to wilmer cabrera coming available and then he got hired by montreal impact. I'm going to assume the rapids weren't going to go after jason kreis or it might pecci anytime soon and i feel like if the rapids were seriously seriously considering an international manager you know somebody from outside prior. M._l._s. experience or knowledge of the american system that you know some outlet outlet in another country that we'd have to plug through google translate would have picked up on it. You know to try and get some banter on that as well so in that sense. I think you know we've been talking about this for months that the two most likely candidates the two who've probably been interviewed for the job who if the rapids are making decision anytime soon is going to be todd ramose us or robin fraser your thoughts on maybe the candidate pool and rye frazier was the best option available tab ramos or otherwise and in particular the timing of this of the fact that they were supposedly considering josh wolff at the beginning of june and maybe they could have made this hiring decision with frazier if they wanted to rush things up in the middle of july or they could have waited waited until the end of the season and i think a lot of fans thing oh it's convenient to change the narrative now that the team has nothing to play for 'cause. They're not gonna make playoffs. They're not gonna win the wooden spoon and they're not gonna win. Rocky mountain cup your thoughts decision to go with frazier as opposed roms and then the timing of the announcement as well as you mentioned wolf went off to austin awesome and so he is no longer a candidate <hes> and then other possibilities. I gary smith is pretty unlikely but he was a former rapids manager and has really done very well and u._s. Al but <hes> is going back to m._l._s. with nashville when they come in next year. <hes> you've got jason crisis available. Mike pecci we talked about a couple of weeks ago needs to do a one or two year <hes> <hes> <hes> of his personal image before he's nontoxic <hes> and then so you've got tab ramos than i can't really say white. Tab ramos wasn't picked <hes> he he he had a lot of the intangibles. He looked like a very good coach it also i i heard rumblings that he was very happy with the u._s. M._n._t. u twenty three's and they were happy with him and that he <hes> that's all he really wanted a that. Maybe it's almost a lateral move. Ooh and maybe the top ramos has aspirations to be an international head coach and that the u twenty three's a better path to that than going going to a struggling m._l._s. team. <hes> frazier's really good higher because he's been out there. You mentioned his curriculum vitae very well and explained cleaned all of his assistant credentials. He's one supporter shield. He's one analyst cup. He's been around really successful coaches and i think understands the game ending understand coaching from a higher level i think he has the resume that conor casey would have wanted if he were interviewing for this. This job which is multiple assistant ships a little bit of head coaching time <hes> a winning record as a player under good head managers yeah <hes> <hes> it it is worth mentioning that robin frazier has been in the pool we probably talked about this when his name first game but it has been in the m._l._s. coach candidates for years and he has been mentioned as a finalist and then passover ultimately <hes> <hes> there has been a lot of talk about the fact that some people feel like frazier was interviewed because he is black and that all teams wanted a to interview a black candidate so they say they believe in minority hiring. I'm encouraged that the rap is not only hired a interviewed him but hired. I heard him. I think it speaks to the fact that frazier is the most talented the most qualified candidate <hes> his race is not that important that being i said <hes> i want us to be on record matt as a podcast as being the first people to discuss that he's one of only a handful of of black head coaches in major league soccer. I'm not sure if that's an accurate statement. He might be the only black head coach in major league soccer <hes> patrick vieira <hes> was the last one that i can think of off the top of my head <hes> and i think that's significant you know somebody pointed out that something like a quarter of the players in the league are <hes> black and they don't have any coaches to represent them so that's a significant representations matters. I think that's significant <hes> <hes>. I don't think that that was a factor at all of the rapids in hiring him. I think the factor was easy. Absolute best coach was american experience on the market and he has deep ties to the rapids. <hes> well someone that from arkham just pulling up the head coaches. You know there's a lot of the there's a lot of international representation in here and certainly representation for the latin american communities whether you have wilmer cabrera whose colombian for example and then you know obviously you know. There's a handful full of argentines now throughout the throughout the the league as well. I'm gonna make a possibly really ignorant statement here marcus a white guy i. I'm not sure just looking at him. Whether or not chris armas may be mixed race and then possibly has some you know some would clatter rise arise himself as a person of color. I remember there was an interview a couple years ago. After one of the fast and furious movies came out and it was like one of the first actual like in-depth like behind find the person interviews that vin diesel did in which he confirmed that he would consider himself a person of color. I could be totally ignorant on here. If anybody wants to check my white guy privilege on here police collecting if i'm missing something like i i want to be as open about that but there's there's latin influence. There's european influence. There's the people who would not who would not immediately classify as american of western european descent sis gender males on and in m._o._s. There's other representation but i don't think there's anybody else who you would consider truly african american or of african descent you know what we would consider <hes> robin frazier as a as a jamaican born person so i think that's a good point. You're right matt chris. Armas is of puerto rican descent and so a person of color but not a person with black heritage. Although <hes> as all of our listeners certainly no in puerto rico the dominican republican haiti had a significant number of <hes> african slaves so you do not know what the bloodlines bloodlines are if twenty three and me or ancestry dot com like the sponsor this podcast we would certainly take their money and doors their products so we can determine the acidy and or national origins of all coaches in major league soccer so yes and week out at this time we will neither confirm nor deny that that sponsorship money will go to beer and or purchasing of dying english clubs. I guess one of the thing thing that i kind of want to talk about mark that i kind of i want to temper expectations or give our listeners the right mindset for how they're going to nitpick pick or try to read into roster decisions and then also style of play that robin frazier will be using against new york red bulls and i'll say the rest of twenty twenty nine hundred for the sake of completeness he was asked about timing of implementing system greg vanney never really focused on formation in that much so much as what they were doing a style of play standpoint and you know he clearly had two distinct motions one they were in kind of a mid block and then trying to get the ball <unk> out to the forwards and then help everybody else getting involved and then one where they were definitely a possession team with the overlapping fullback. Whether it was stephen beta sure justin moro arm um and then obviously the attacking players that they had in the middle but vani had that team in a couple of different looks in the ways that they could do that they could shift to either of those dears throughout the game in a bunch of different formations and that also do that with players playing a handful of different roles other than knowing that michael bradley is going to be in the the middle have mostly a defensive role. Obviously drew more is going to be a centreback. Obviously a josie algebra had forwarded passenger vehicles going to do sebastian giovinco things because they had a lot of flexibility within that or they could do what they wanted to do in a bunch of different ways and so i think you know if if you know frazier comes out and and suddenly the rapids her in a four three three on saturday against the new york red bulls i would not listeners. Don't jump to the conclusion that they're going to be. You know dutch total football nor to the conclusion that that's going to be the formation frazier is going to be stuck to you know he emphasized that he has ideas for what he wants to do in those teaching moments from style of place ten point but that's gonna take a little bit of experimentation both in terms of formation fitting players into a couple of different roles and i would fully expect for him to do a full audit of the entire roster so don't jump to conclusions if you see coil par get two straight starts for example. I think everybody on this roster is going to get an opportunity to play and show what they can give to the club and you know right now for frazier. It's more about testing a few things out pushing a couple of guys seeing what they can and can't do and really just giving everybody an opportunity need to collect as much data as he can in a bunch of different ways and then he was also asked about you know maybe an immediate jump away from you know conor. Arcadi was on a scale of you know. He was probably a two to a three on that pablo to. I'm that pablo to pep scale for example. He said that you know they've done. A lot. Got a good things in the last couple of months. I'm not necessarily going to radically change that as well so it could be a gradual evolution of the rapids of had you know a clear identity. They're going to be in a mid block. It's been mostly a four to three one or a variation of that. Guys have gotten settled into their position. I think frazier is going to massage that and change that slightly slightly to collect some of that data. It's not going to be a radical change whereas apollo restaurant it was a pretty flat for for to kind of guy and then you know if hudson had come in you know he would have immediately jumped jumped three five to i think frazier might have an idea in the distant future for the start of two thousand twenty or for the middle of twenty twenty what he wants to do that doesn't mean that you're going to see the first draft of matter even an integration that looks remotely like that on saturday or the rest of the season and so i think that's something that i think fans fans should definitely look at. I'm looking more at does. Sam vines get played in a different position for example or maybe he massages what carolina costs none because he's moved around a couple all different places or we've talked about the winger core of jonathan lewis andreessen cheeky diego rubio to a lesser extent and sam nicholson. Maybe we'll see them. Do you something slightly different or do it from a different part of the field. I would focus more on those individual cases of say what an individual individual part is doing rather than looking at the machine as a whole and so in that i think it's gonna be interesting for us to tactically breakdown these games that are left in the rest of the season. He's in mark in the same way. I think a lot of rapid fans would be valid and would not be missing much. They completely check out on the rest of the season orders. You know i'm going to support the club but i'm not going to be freaking freaking out about whatever it is that tommy smith was doing or whatever it is that so and so it was doing that was poor. I think that you really covered a lot of that very well. <hes> just i wrote a lot of that in an article that i posted for soccer rabbi <hes> just like what what should we take out of <hes> robin frazier razer. We're gonna see tinkering. We get to see a little bit of maybe how he'll lineup next year. Louis shouldn't take much from it and we get to see him additional players. You covered it really well not on uh-huh. I guess maybe track back to an ask h. T. h. Shell we had from last week mark where we were asked. There was a listener who asked about clint clint irwin for two thousand twenty vis-a-vis maybe if the club had held onto zach mcmath. I wanna presume with clint irwin playing in toronto f._c. Being a part of a supporter shield eighteen losing in p._k.'s in the final two seattle that one year that maybe there's a report where maybe we're thinking clinton. Irwin's got the inside track to the starting writing job post him howard so we covered it a little bit a couple of weeks ago about whether matter i believe that irwin is positioned to be the head had goalkeeper. I think the short answer is is yes <hes> but i don't think it's a slam dunk. I do think it's very unlikely colorado will go out and spend bend designated player money on try their goalkeeper that just seemed to have been <hes> questionable idea upfront and i think they they know they can get better value at dp for a number tan or striker or winger that said <hes>. It's a really good question action as the weather clint irwin is good enough <hes> to be a starting goalkeeper or whether there isn't somebody else's backup somewhere in the league <hes> who who might be a better one a great a great interesting thing that you know this is anecdotal but i'm interested to see what you think about this kind of idea. <hes> jeff agnello ella won the game one the starting <hes> role at goalkeeper for portland timbers out of camp and then <hes> played his way out out of it and basically they started a try. <hes> steve clarke deposition further timbers and steve clarke statistically has proven to be one of the best goalkeepers in the league by his expected goals numbers. <hes> an atmel is now on the bench now. Clearly portland thought ell was the better goalkeeper but there's a lot of ah those in the league where the day start with one guy in the second guy turns out to be better. Spencer richey has been on the outs for cincinnati. I rate him very highly <hes> and then there's a couple of other <hes> guys i think greg greg ranjit singh who was with louisville city last year and is now on on the bench. I think in orlando <hes> how it can backing up brag zahn probably should get a shout it another opportunity for him. Yeah there are a lot of backups in alaska are really good and have never really gotten a chance to win the game out of camp and in cleaner when has been starting goalkeeper in this league on on two different occasions once the rapids monthly toronto and he was superseded on both occasions so long winded answer. The short answer is i think lavar darwin is <hes> is going to have a fifty fifty chance at the head at the keeper's spot. I do not think it's guaranteed for him. <hes> maybe the last thing thing that i wanna talk about. Mark obviously had that tweet when berhalter was asked about other coaches that maybe he emulates and you kinda ran with that in your article on your website this week become your thoughts on <hes> robin frazier looking up to a bruce marina a gregg berhalter greg vanney and maybe could we see shades of what they do in how robin frazier approaches managing the rapids going forward yeah. We'll we'll vanney played. You know the poor man's version of manchester city which is is you wanna you wanna control the ball. You wanna make passes. Spacings really important speed of play is really important <hes> but you know accurate through balls <hes> really cutting devastating passing <hes> and using two men and three men combinations. I think it was is was what vani did in toronto before this season before he started a shift in the last year or two to <hes> you know a little bit more of a wing attack and thinking thinking of the five <hes> the five-man back line <hes> and then you know what you got with berhalter with <hes> columbus was a lot different right eight berhalter used primarily for two three one he was really interested in those deep lying defensive midfielders <hes> switching the point of attack <hes> and being able to play diagonal balls and also kind of <hes> playing short short long you know kind of this this pink pink and then bomb <hes> sat up with the wingers and it really works very very well and abroad to the other thing of all used to do <hes> with columbus lavas was he had kind of specific trapped high press that worked very very well so the interesting thing it from the press conference matt that you mentioned is that they played various that he mentioned three coaches that he wanted to emulate and to kinda different but both of them were fairly attacking <hes> so it should be really interesting to see what he rolls out yeah. No i think the one thing that i'll say and you know he referred bruce arena more from a management standpoint. I think from a tactical tactical standpoint or i see what berhalter dade with columbus crew what he's trying to do with the national team with greg vanney. He's done which ron oh of c- and i want to try to do that. I would not expect specs the rapids to come out in the four four t y midfield formation you know unless the rapids are going going into a time machine and trying to get janine marcelo service for example <hes> but both of those you know. All three of those coaches can be extremely pragmatic. All three have the view of of love you know i'm trying to win the war and sometimes that means approaching every single battle from a different way and both of them clearly have ways in which you know berhalter's talked about this in some of his bigger interviews he's done since taking the national team job of there are ways for us to disrupt the opponent and put us in an advantage advent advant advantageous situation and we can do that with the ball and we can do that without the ball and we can do that in a couple of different ways and a couple of different shapes. No we're hudson was so maybe stuck on the three five two and then realized things had to change and maybe it was long-term develops. Maybe it was a second option. Maybe it was an epiphany. The fourfourtwo diamond it seems like frazier is going to have much more of an idea about what to do on the defensive side and there are ways for the rapids to go on a third road game in eight days and a half to play in the rain at new england on turf and played defensive stocker d defensive soccer and be affective and control the game and make a new england revolution play there. I was just using that as an example folks. I wasn't specifically picking club that bruce arena formerly the league currently manages but i'm just saying that you know having that pragmatic approach ways that we can dominate the game defensively and dominate the game offensively and do that in a couple of different looks and i think having that clear first year second gear is something that you need analysts at this level unless your a._f._c. for example the allegations he can do do that certainly atlanta united to that last year. Yes they had the extremely dynamic passing attack but then they said we're going to be defensively stout. We are going to ford. We're gonna frustrate the new york red bulls make them play with the ball not look them press and we're going to destroy them on the counter and it worked in the eastern conference finals atlanta united figured out how to have a second year to complement what they were doing well to fit the individual opponent and the overall approach of not winning the battle but winning the war and as billy bean alternately ultimately winning the final game of the season and robin fraser seems to be extremely articulate and extremely thorough and well thought out in that approach and for me me that's a really good sign of things to come because of what we've seen that greg vanney he's been able to do with his teams and certainly the value that gregg berhalter got out of the columbus crew and a lot of the potential that he has with the young crew <hes> the young group with the united states men's national team all right so we get out of here mark i ah all the things i know how to say in this language alright listeners we are going to we'll do the rundown but then we're going to close out with audio that i got from this <hes> <hes> from today at training at the presser i we're going to do my individuals sit down with pork smith acting about <hes> roster tactics and then also with clint irwin former former toronto f._c. Player who's the one guy who has a lot of really good experience with robin fraser so you might get a little bit more insight into who robin frazier was it toronto and maybe what clinton was looking for him. In colorado and indicates listeners follow us on twitter at soccer underscore rabbi at l. w. s. map pollard at rabbits ninety. Six podcasts for the podcast has use use the hashtag ask h._d._a. Shell send us any of your questions. We'll try and answer them on the show <hes> if you're not on twitter or if you've got something that's longer than two hundred eighty characters feel free to email us us at rapids ninety six podcasts at g. Com patriot dot com backslash rapids ninety six podcasts. If you want to help us fund buying bolton wanderers and denver post backslash lash denver post dotcom backsta with that here's poor smith and here's clinton irwin. We'll see you next week. Folks been pretty open about about wanting to bring in a number nine and number dp roster spots. How are you evaluating that given. Maybe what some of the needs rob might be looking for specifically. I think it's really important jordan that we have cleared sense of what we're looking to do in this off season you know we want to be more talking more entertaining team. I believe we're now up to the seventh goal scorers in the league this year so there's no that's all we can doing very well. You just have to look at eleven goals. Diego's up to nine eight in the last eleven. I think is so there's no date but putting the ball in that hasn't been a problem. I still feel like we lack a lot of conversations robbing a bike this this is all that creative spark and the italian firm. We still don't have thought attacking midfielder created fielder that can really open. Thank you bob away just not able to find the open so that will certainly be accused opponents. I think we're always looking to the future as well. The idea of a ninety next nine and we're going to move on from that. I was three years ago and then mara bar exam and you have to be able to adopt to these things. There's no that client very well. We would expect talk being double digits by the end of the year. Which is you know. It's a big thing for hasn't happened. Since today's maintain good shot at beating the record terms of what omar connery was doing today's ten so that's been huge positive and there's no i think we feel like we need to make sure it is we continue to build a young team that the core of the team is so strong experience there. I do think we need to bring in another athletic center bach and let's open ravenous. Albany's is clear on his want to push a little bit further four than we need to make sure we've got sandbox. You can defend in space as that's going to be important. I think defensive-minded number six six you know we've got some credit be gifted midfielders jack price costing and about the time the club and do some good young players coming through again. It's always let's always focused. Make sure we balance that. We've got depth charts that are that are strong and ultimately suing the coach what what he needs there. An execute has and then biggest robin on your analytics and sports science has been a big deal for you. How much is he envisioned without without or where does he want to take that yeah. I think the work the frontier and matt furman doing on the analytic side is absolutely tremendous. It really is they've take raised it a level. I think over the next twelve to eighteen months. We're gonna fix a massive strikes just in what we're covering high work covering it. It's some really really true stuff. One of the other folks that we think does it exceptionally well. Toronto and you know we were very good relationship with our guys. We did speak their analytics guys. It turns out that robin very heavily involved in that side can actor. I strongly with them. He's a big believer in as we've always said one components in hates not the whole thing will never sign a player based on loan with looking at the analytics. Tell us. I think it informs us. Allies us to make decisions. I don't think so things that are happening. There are very very important. Uh-huh robbins obviously gonna come in and play a key part on his wease south. He's gonna have some ideas that we let them. We're excited about it you. I just feel like it's a great thing all right and vice versa all your first reactions to robin the frazier being announced as the head mandatory excited with his building on the field along the way he communicates with the best best out of players inside excited to see what was his. What was he like as an assistant manager over some of his roles. When you guys were in toronto together <hes> <hes> you know robin. He's he's very involved with <hes>. I i think in terms of this is that worked with you know he was. He was nearly so you know he was involved in everything day to day. <hes> took a lot of the opposition scouting <hes> video just sort of preparation to week. Vastly-experienced has been a lot of different teams. It's been a head coach. Confidence methods cases agree higher for us <hes> uh-huh and then obviously in toronto and more involved with the goalkeeper coach. What was your personal relationship with robin light. It was good. I get along well with robin. I think like you said you know i wasn't a field player so i wasn't in every in every conversation with them but <hes> you know whenever we would communicate a felt like honest and gave his <hes> give his opinion and most of the time i had a lot of evidence behind it and <hes> just clarity of thought and he really sees the game in a good way so i'm excited to see him as a head coach and i think already today you can. She does taking on his ideas and trying to execute on the field. <hes> give me one story about hand may be off the training ground outside of practice or something about robin frazier the person then as opposed to the former soccer player soccer coach yeah. I think you know i don't want to have anything especially <hes> funnier out of the ordinary i i think the thing that i think about is that he cares for the players and he wants to make people better and i think he's always looking for ways to take is aside and maybe give them a tip here. Are there at least as an assistant and <hes> you know he was. He uses to watch success. I guess the one story i remember. I guess you know we're in the champions. League final against called america <hes> and i was on the bench so a lot of times i was able to kind of fill out you know what the coaches were thinking in terms of their substitutions and tactics and stuff and <hes> you. I just remembered greg look into robin. <hes> you know a lot of times in his thoughts and i think when you see that sort of relationships between head coach an assistant coach it means that one they respect each other and to <hes> that he values what can bring to the table and i think that's important it shows that is respected around the league and he's respected by the people that he works with. How do you expect things to change on the field that he likes to play a possession style kind of puts the owners you just in terms of how robin play he wants direction as much ram actions but he wants to send axons set up the two that we have two quite a predictable manner with our beat. Analysts analysts definitely a unique. What does it mean to you guys having a manager. That's one both as a player and insists multiple times now leading this team. That's important. Thanks the sir uh mm-hmm.

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Nia Clark + Morgan Walsh

Homophilia

1:41:46 hr | 1 year ago

Nia Clark + Morgan Walsh

"Should the friends welcome to a very special episode of mobilia. That's right. We've released her from from behind the Pay Wall and in case you haven't piece it together. The title is a play on our original title Hamas but announced announced. It's more it's Mo- it's Mafia. Give us some but appropriately. We also have a A. Mo In this episode used to be Morgan Walsh. Yes who sometimes goes by Mao sure and Morgan Walsh is a a dear friend and she kickoff Elvin formed an organization called Gender Nation which donates inclusive uplifting. LGBTQ plus affirming story books to California Public Schools is an incredible organization. It really is she's incredible person and did we all lose it crying during this episode yes we do yes good good luck not. Saban truly she is she is doing the Lord's work also on the show a woman who you came into contact with at the LGBT center three sometime ago the clock near Clark is an advocate and activist and also who doing some work with big brothers sisters moment and this interview was really like a mass this really sort of distills everything all the reasons we wanted to do do this spin off in terms of talking to true experts and she is is one you know this is essentially a free tedtalk from New York. Yeah it's it's an inspirational moment with an inspirational person and that is truly what the show's all about if you haven't listened to Mafia what we wanted to do with this his talk about kind of the bigger issues that we sometimes get into in the podcast but really focus on them so we're talking to experts like Nia Clark why Dr Alan Downes who wrote the velvet rage like sexual health expert Dr Joe Court and many more and and then also spent some time talking to people who are not in the LGBT bt community but who are solid allies. Yes like Paul Tomkins a cool up. I sack June Diane Rayfield God. We've discriminated against our cysts hat hat for far too long and it's time to have their moment yes but only for a mini series. That's all we can allow them. the rest of moment. 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It's it's actually interesting because because I bring up this whenever people ask about the use of they then pronouns because people often say well it doesn't sound automatically correct to use it in a singular form and I say well think about when you're driving on the street and someone cuts you off and you don't know who's in the front out of your first instinct is to say just came out of nowhere they cut me off and so you think about it in actually it does work simple as that so we met when I was volunteering for the LGBT Sennar Life Works Program and you're working there well. I don't Ashley. What your your title was says Mentoring Coordinator at a program called life works which is the Youth Development and mentoring program at the Los Angeles. LGBTQ center my job was basically to provide peer to peer and one on one mentoring opportunities to Queer are youth ages twenty four and under and you. I believe you're my first or second match like I had just started we yeah I was just on the job. And where were you before that I hail from Boston. Massachusetts go SOx and I had had been working in child welfare for a very long time and but I doing direct service in mental health and so working with emotionally emotionally disturbed children and young adults and it became very taxing. Thanksgiving this opportunity I was actually doing a training in rutgers at Rutgers Walkers and New Jersey with friend of mine Michael Ferrara Michael who is actually the founder of the life works program and he had never trained with me before we were training training for Human Rights Campaign and we'd never done a training together before and he loved my training style he loved my wealth of knowledge my frame of reference having been been a former foster youth myself and he said I have a job and I think he'd be perfect for it and so I- mood three thousand miles across the country and what are the job entail so my dad basically is defined adults in the community whether they be Lgbtq or allies. I don't just say allies. I like to say accomplices accomplices or co-conspirator finding folks who actually are at a point in their lives with they. They've got it together as far far as their career as far as emotional health as far as the mental health who want to offer an opportunity to build up a young person you know a Lotta people understand. I sorry I get a little academic. Sometimes so there was a behaviorist of your estate by the name of got ski and he wrote about something called sociocultural theory and specifically about guided participation and guidance participation is essentially an older person or a person with more experience teaching a person with lesser experience ways of the world and that's really what my function. Shen was a lot of people don't realize it but on kind of a micro level this is really taking a young person who maybe just going through some struggles with synthesizing their sexual gender identity and helping them to build some essential life skills social skills. I independent living skills but on a macro level this is a very radical form of Activism Queer Activism because you have folks like Matt who are older who are teaching young. Queer folks how to show up for themselves to show for the community and it's essentially ensuring that our community not only survives thrives. Did you have anyone in your life. I did round the age of fifteen eighteen because I had been bouncing around from foster home to foster I was in the system for fourteen years in fifteen different placements and two two states around that time around fifteen. I've met man by the name Raborn off and he had had been just trying to find like create opportunities in Massachusetts in Boston. He had really been in New York. Mark amid the AIDS crisis. He was in his twenties in the AIDS crisis and just saw his entire community just being ravaged and he found out that Boston in Massachusetts was getting some funding to create programming for queer kids because what they were seeing was a lot of young people. Oh who were experiencing homelessness it would try to housing and couldn't but if they were HIV positive they could so many young people were intentionally Ciro converting inverting just to get a place to live and so it spoke to a myriad of of issues like how do you address that and so so he helped actually start up some prevention programs and I actually was one of the youth in those prevention programs I was was an HIV AIDS educator way back in the nineties and it was an opportunity for me to become a leader. It was an opportunity for me to you. Learn about sex because you know as someone who's agenda minority in foster care you more concerned with where your garbage bags are going to be. We sent to next Mike. You're just going from place to place and everyone constantly invalidating your existence assistance and believing that it's really a mental health issue so working with Robin working with the agency that he was at it gave me an opportunity to build some not only resiliency but some skills and an opportunity to really learn about my community and learn what the community's needs are learn in what some of the deficits some of the you know areas of improvement so it was a really powerful experience. I got mast. I learned how to to master my bodily autonomy. I actually wasn't so afraid of sex anymore and I actually started having in conversations about what it was like to have sex as a as a Trans Youth. You know what that looked like. I actually could learn about healthy relationships. People people get so wrapped up in the sex itself. I saw this a lot mentor ship where there would be this kind of like generational divide divide among especially older gay mentors and and and some of the gay boys that were mentoring around sex around. Ah Risk around that in the default is always. Do you know the risk you know the lecture and young people to now that lecture but what what I was able to learn instead was let's have a conversation about relationships so instead of having Acom instead of focusing so much on unprotected sex what it creates the environment in your relationship where you don't feel like you want to ask what their status is. Do you know what your status is as opposed to focusing so much on the behavior what okay so you don't. You're afraid that this person may leave you. If you have unprotected sex. Okay what what if you afraid that this person may leave you. This is really about relationships and communication. It's not so much about the risk piece as there is about you know self esteem. There is about asking for what you need as in you know mutuality relationship and these are all things circling back. Sometimes I go all the way around the rotary right but circling back to mentor ship like now adults being able to provide the guidance and saying okay so let's not focus so much on the lecture of do you know the risks and you know what's out there. You know what can happen to you as opposed to okay what's going on in your relationship. What's going on in this dynamic that you feel you. CanNot you cannot speak about these issues with your partner. Someone you're going to actually be intimate with an in this way. It all comes down to your relationship with yourself. absolutely. I think so often we are made to feel like just existing is is asking enough of the rest of the world you know so the two then take the extra step and ask for what you actually need is. You're made to feel selfish yourself involved or or whatever or attention seeking right I just I I was doing a training. I I'm the one of the national. LGBTQ mentoring coaches for big brothers big sisters of America and we're essentially taking what everything that life works did here in California and we're expanding it to provide more mentoring services across the country so we're working in in really some some some tough areas some really well established areas but I was doing a training in Virginia last month specifically with mentors tors who had not had any training when it came to working with sexual and gender minorities and I remember one of them an older woman. She said You you know I support you know the gays and lesbians that was was like goods coming. I support the gays and Malaysian. I just don't understand why they have to let everyone know like who they love who they love who they have sex with this none of my Mississippi Mena anyone's business and to her I said Okay we'll think about it this way. Say for instance you're at a restaurant and you're sitting with someone and you see a a couple who you presume to be straight couple of man and a woman and you see the guy pulled out of small box. Get down on his knees and proposed to that woman. Would you then get up from your table. Walk up to them and say you know. This is all great. What who you sleep with my business. Yeah we get relegated to sexual ax ax we get relegated to gender expression but our identities who we are who we love. Those are not considered appropriate. Conversations station's people don't think beyond that if they are sis gender and heterosexual and so I tried to use that as an example in training think about the Kiss Cam that you see when you go to events you know why do people do you see people typically recoiling and saying I don't WanNa know who they're having sex with. It really comes down to level of ability with the idea of sex itself but looking at people holistically intersection -ality that people can be just like myself black trans and a woman. It's only one fragment. It's a proportion that makes the whole near your brilliant. I just love listening to speak but I I'm. I'm curious a more about your own story and biography. How you learn how oh you became this amazing woman that you are now your own journey. Can you just walk us through more time line of your own journey from you know a Trans Youth in the foster care system to an educator and where you are today in nineteen eighty three. I'll just all the way back so I you know I lived in Boston Massachusetts in Boston. I live with my mother. I I birth father abandoned her as an infant so I never knew his name is. He wasn't listed on my birth certificate. Nothing and my mother mother decided that she was very determined to do things on her own and you know unfortunately that did not work out so well for her. She she really wasn't the best parent she was an excellent provider but not the best parent and so early on she became physically abusive. Live and eventually I you know ended up in the foster care system around the age of Eight by then she had moved us is to a different state and I had gone to school kind of complaining of some injuries from a beating and I ended up entering the foster ASTA CARE system at that time so by very first foster home this was in Silver Spring Maryland and I had who I believe to be a wonderful foster mother Emma Paterson and she was warm. She was loving. She was also an educator and I I I had I had been feeling different for a very long time. I'd automatically assume because I like boys that that equaled gay and though this is one thousand ninety one and I really didn't have too much language to articulate it and you're still very young to even be thinking about your sexuality in any way you had a real awareness yes but I wasn't as focused on my sexuality as I was about me when I looked in the mirror when I socialize with girls when I looked at very feminine things all things typically associated with women and and females and and I remember being very bolt within the first few weeks of that foster placement and telling my foster mom that I felt I was a girl that I was a girl and again. I said this is nineteen. ninety-one people really don't know anything about gender minorities outside of what they saw on Donahue Donahue Sally Jesse Raphael and like and so she tried her best to give me an explanation of what that might look like for me as an adult talked about sex change operation but at the end of the conversation I actually felt supported. I felt loved. I felt this. This could be a foster to adopt situation in fact. That was the plan for me to be adopted by her. It was about a week or two later that I learned that was not the the case she had me placed in a mental institution where I would spend six months and I remain there until I stopped telling telling people that I was a girl and what I learned from. This is that number one adults are not to be trusted and number. Two of my own mind is not to be trusted so I went back into the closet for another eight years. Meanwhile I'm bouncing around from placement to placement foster home to foster home and this is around the time that I actually entered those prevention programs in Boston. I had moved back by this time and while working at this child welfare agency I met met this woman named Karen and she was a fellow. She was a social welfare advocate. She worked with women who were survivors so domestic abuse and I would see her outside of the agency all the time and we kind of built this rapport and eventually she found out about out my living situation and she you know we spent more time together and she decided to be my foster mom and here. I am at fifteen really thinking to myself okay. I know that I am I am not boy. I don't know how to explain this. I I don't want to go through this process again with another person but this is someone who might actually want to adopt me and it went there go to the place of of adoption and I decided before we went into the courthouse. I wanted to tell her what my tooth was and I said to her that I am. The girl and I want you to know that if you don't want me I understand but this is who I am and she said Oh well. I Love Hugh. I accept you for who you are. I you know I think this is great but just with one condition. You can dress however however you want as long as it's in the house. I don't want the neighbors to talk about it. I don't want to draw attention to myself. You'll get beat up at school every other reason than validating my existence and so if you're fifteen years old and you've never I had an opportunity to express yourself and to really sent this is your identity. You make concessions as all foster children. Do you make concessions and so like this. I was okay with that for a while and then I started noticing. I felt more natural at home than I did get anywhere else I felt more comfortable at home and store started embedding more and more pieces of feminine clothing into my tire and she you would protest she would make little I roll. She would make her comments but it wasn't until I was a junior in high school. When I transferred to a new high school out of safety concerns because of my gender expression that she took major issue I went to the interview to the actual interview to go to school dressed as the pursuit of a woman you see today. She said nothing. I want to say maybe a week or two later. She brought me to the Suffolk County. PROBATE court satis down with the attorney who would help with the adoption option. The two of them sat across from the table and proceeded to give me the following ultimatum. He said you can either go home and live as a boy or you go back into foster care and you go and do address however you want but not in my house and it it hit me it hit me like a ton of bricks because you know even as an adult now my focus has always been a you know they're these three tenets these three building blocks locks of child welfare which are safety permanency and wellbeing and imagine having to choose between these tenants and their gender identity and I often say even training. That's a decision no no tile young person should ever ever ever have to make but I did and I went back into foster care until eight thousand adult the the greatest thing that the the most empowering moment though was leaving that courthouse house determined to never I said to myself. I'm never letting this happen to me again or any other kids again and so when I aged out of the system the system actually actually hired me. They said we think that you have some invaluable experience. As someone who actually has navigated the system and we've seen you grew up and do this advocacy work. HIV AIDS education. You've done lobbying. You know all of this great work that you've done so why don't you start out doing residential counseling and I started out as a residential counselor. I did it for about eight years. You know working with youth who were in juvenile no justice working with you in the foster care system mostly transition age youth aging out and then moved into into mental health off and became an activity coordinator and really found stride in helping to find activities that would empower young people so especially things like volunteerism and community service and so I I I I mentioned that because this Aha moment my my entire adult career has been the Aha moment because as a child I was not treated well the adults who are tasked with my care who were responsible for me they did not respond well and now I am the adult who response and it is my function and my purpose and role in my joy immense joy and teaching other adults how to respond and that in itself must be incredibly healing because I when I hear your story I just think about like how how does someone go through that many traumas and still come out being such a such an self self actualized person lear. I is like our superpower. Resiliency is our superpower we really we have been so much thrown at us as Queer folks and you we many of us have learned to adapt. I feel like it is primordial cardio for us to learn how to adapt to situations that are not convenient that are not safe and we persevere. That's what we do know how. How are you learn to trust again after all of those experiences in your youth you mean interesting people in it is a it's a constant work. I'm a constant work in progress. I trust but verify so when it comes to like my bubbles like my professional bubbles. I'm deemed an expert in what I do. I'm deemed in authority in I work at being a national. LGBTQ youth advocate and expert and so people typically you know seek me me out and so in order to really broker that trust I let them know like these are what my expectations are for the work that will do and this is what I hope that you have the propensity to to offer his well when it comes to my inner circle that is like I said before you know fourteen years. That's a long time to be in a system where you bounced around and and all of your relationships are really transitional. You really feel like a nomad and so it's hard to find routes but I I pushed through the discomfort because I know that human beings die in isolation and I know especially for Gender Minorities of Color Trans Women of color. We are an endangered species and so I will do anything to survive you know I want to have healthy relationships I want to and be able to trust people and so I- offer it and so I continued to work on trust as many of us do but I I you know I pushed through that discomfort so that I can have healthy relationships one of the activities that I actually made man to in his mentor training. I I would love to pick your brain in here. What you thought of about your your training experience but one of the activities activity that we do is call the life map it's life mapping exercise and I ask all of the mentors and the training okay. I want you to start with your birth year and then I want you to chronicle for me some of the most important highs and lows the peaks and valleys of your life and this is an activity not only to build community in that room you know all these other adults who embarking on the same journey of working with a young person but also at the end of the activity. I asked them to move beyond everything they've experienced and to draw or write what they see as a future for themselves and it's so important that they're able to complete that pop that part of the activity when mentors unable to complete that part it for me. It begs the question if you don't see a future for yourself. You don't have things to aspire to work toward. How can I entrust you with this young person who was embarking on that journey now a young person who wants to look up to to someone who was also a continuing piece of work. Who's also working on themselves and the same thing goes for me? I know that relationships are hard for me. Building Trust with folks. It's hard for me but I want to be intentional about pulling all the folks in and so I'm doing that work so I can encourage encourage young people to do that work. I do remember the the thing that stands out to me. The most about the training day in particular was you. I mean you you you you owning the room and you telling your story and it just it gave it a sense of importance you know and and also that I remember the word like like maybe one or two adults in there who were kind of misbehaving. I was sort of shocked and just the way that you navigated that with such dignity. It was inspiring. It was all it. Was You know the Nia Clark story was a big part of my experience there you you know you're an inspiration to me but also to all the the youth and but I think as far as the actual mentoring I did a mentor to back to back and and and I think I really lucked out because they were just so well adjusted and easy and we we did all the things things but you know it really became like a friendship you know in a way an inappropriate appropriate one of course but also that I guess I felt like I in a weird way headed easy because these were not kids who are are suffering struggling in a major way I disagree. I think that you had just as much of a task because yeah you know I hear this so often with mentors because their expectations that many adults have when they work with young people who are going through things or this this perception exception that if a young person is seeking out mentorship that they're you know the going through like they're going through it you know but I believe that you had even more of a responsibility because the young people that I tasked you with doing well and your job was to maintain that wellness because uh all it takes is one incident. All it takes is one zero conversion. All it takes this one. You know bad semester. All it takes says that one thing that many queer folks go through and it turns their whole world upside down but to have you as a touch point that is so important to have to maintain wellness. I think a lot of people really undervalue that to your point a little bit too. It's it's also got a very calming energy so I mean he's talked to him at Makaki and it's like suddenly your day is going better so truth job do do you miss working at the center. I'm this working with the kids yeah. I don't miss the Senate politics but I loved my experience. They're building community because in Boston I'm very racially segregated and there aren't there isn't as much representation from folks of color in the Queer community out here. There is you excuse me it helped that already had a like a tribe but I got to envelope even more folks into that tribe I mean I'm literally interviewing hundreds and hundreds of folks finding out their interests finding out what you know what they liked to do and I befriended some of the volunteers that ended up you know mentoring youth and that was a great experience. I some of them enter. The still have relationships. It's just one day I mean I wanNA podcast so I really found my community. I think you know the best part is I've gone back to Boston and and dealt with you know transport the comments. You know slurs things like that and I am like I am unapologetically lake. We're and the center did that. I don't think I'll ever be in a position where I would stifle my identity again. I see what what happens in mentor ship with adults that serve youth or work with youth when they have grown up stifling their identities for a really long time you know they believe that that because they are functioning well having a great job having a degree that they can offer this guidance but if you haven't done that work around your identity. It's been stifled if you stifled it in order to protect yourself. It's going to manifest itself in that relationship to and it's going to impact the trust. How does it manifest itself. I have seen I've seen mentors who are very judgmental of the young the people that they're working with especially when it comes to sex when it comes to have conversations around six. I think there's this misconception that use an adult can't talk about sex and you can. You just can't talk about sex you. Have you know you can find a third party so a lot of the mentos are like I don't think I could go there and a lot of people feel that way about working with youth period but working with queer kids so important to create body positivity and sex positivity so you you would see me having to have those conversations in mediations you know encouraging mentors to take their kids to center we how the center we just to get us a screening to sit down with the doctor to have those conversations you see that happening you see a lot of mentors who specifically come uh-huh and seek out mentor ship or WanNa work with queer kids so that they have a buddy. I want to hiking buddy. I want someone that I can go and do fun stuff with and that's really about an aesthetic. It's not really about helping a young person. I've seen mentors as I'm interviewing them. You hear it because I asked every I asked Matt to about his Co.. You're coming out story. I ask every single person that I interviewed about coming out experience and where things are at now with their families where things threat now who they're out to and you'd be amazed how many high profile folks are in this city who are just not okay with their clearness. Who are I'm not okay with being. LGBTQ at least beyond you know individual compensations. I'm in curious your take on this evolution that the queer community has and also in terms of representation nations that you know we came up this time in the eighties and nineties where there was this a certain level of acceptance but it was is traditionally always white cysts gay men at the forefront and and sort of treated as the face of the community and it's really only in recent years that we finally started to to course correct and that the language that we use news and the understanding of who is in our community and who just how much privilege we may have you know we consider ourselves marginalized but I'm curious if you in your work if you have seen that evolve in way that you find positive. Es especially in some of the national trainings that I do the Aha the moments that happen the transition that just shifting the language. I do a lot of activities around language because that seems to be a a lot of folks get tripped up on wire all these words. You Know Tom Assisted gender or are we talking about gender non conforming non binary. What all this language. Why does everyone need a label. Why does everyone need this language and what I say often and training. Is You know we have always existed gender minorities existence to beginning of human civilization. We look at even the native Americans way. Wa who was you. I know a princess here in the United States is born here who was also an auction but this this is back in the eighteen hundreds was someone who was a two spirit and in her community they recognize as many as five genders and so just making people aware of that that and then and then giving providing some parallels especially around Feminine Femininity and because that seems to be a big bone of contention for folks to so I bring up examples caster Semenya the South African runner who folks who don't know is was someone who had competed and the the last summer Olympics but the people felt like based on her the cues that she was giving off as far as gender cues they indicated to folks that she was more masculine presenting and she was required by the Olympic Committee to undergo genetic testing to prove she was in fact assigned like female she was female but had just produce more testosterone than most and so having conversations around this okay. This is someone who is is female but based on our perceptions based on the assumptions that we make this is someone who literally is a woman. It was assigned female at birth who still had to be subject to the social construct agenda so having those parallels and then when it comes just circling back to the language if we as a society don't you think about the words that we used to use in our society to describe other people to describe different communities. There was a time when we used to refer to folks as mentally retarded and that was socially acceptable that was literally the textbook definition words we we don't use that term anymore. There was a time when we referred to Asian folks as Orientale and we don't use that term anymore. It has become outdated. Those those communities have spoken up and proclaimed that these words don't fit our narrative right if we can go from Negro grow to colored to Afro American to black to african-american and now back to black then we can recognize it as a society society that language changes evolves to meet the needs of the communities that they describe and so that's what this is about so so yes you know one thing just to think about like you're never. GonNa Remember is all of the new language that is out there to describe the myriad of identities yeah related to sexual and gender minorities but the identities they've always been there. It's just now with it's. I think we've reached just a period in time where I think that Queer folks have finally being able to be honest about their experiences and be honest about contractions and be able to talk to other people about how those attractions work and how those identities you know manifest for them and and I think you know the best quote that I love to use in Training that rob my my mentor it actually taught me was from tales of the city. There's a trans character actor named Mrs Magical and she says you don't have to keep up dear. You just have to keep open and if more folks in the queer community specifically typically Gay men escapist and amend would adopt that I think we'd get a lot further as a community. I think the division will continue to to distract us from our power. I believe that we are we don't step into our power as much as because as we're so divided. Actually I never respond to people online. I read the comments things like that but I want to say it was last week they out at advocate had put out an article about the fourteenth Black Trans woman who'd been murdered in the US and there was the White Gay Guy who actually put out a put a list together of things that he felt would remedy this situation of black transgenders. Don't ever come transgender. It's an adjective no describes the person place thing so gender woman but some just giving a list of actions that everyone anyone else in the community should take so that more of us are not murdered those things being that Queer folks in general should obses- AH stained from cruising that we should not be encouraging Black Trans women to engage in sex work that they choose to engage agent sex work because it's easy money that we should now not allow Trans folks to trick straight men and they should actually actually out trans women with straight men. I'm just like this like a very detailed list and this is a community member. This is a person who who identifies as gay and so you know that's the work there so please tell me eviscerated confidence. I did yeah but you know what I I'm trying. I'm trying this whole thing. My boss said big brothers big sisters national. She is a yoga instructor and she says you know when you are hearing some of these negative comment so when you're doing this work sometimes it's important to try to listen as a learner because the for whatever reason this is someone who is trying to be intentional about preventing murders for whatever reason and it's a very skewed very horrible way to go about it because you should never do anything about us without us but but at the same time you can see that it's clear that there's he put this together maybe to be divisive but also he sees. There's a problem so trying to suspend some of that judgment and just really trying to explain my own narrative and saying you know not all black trans. It's women are prostitutes. Sex workers and many of us have to resort to sex work because there are policies in place. Is that prohibit us from getting jobs or we may have dropped out of school entered the school to prison pipeline. We may have engaged in Survival Bible. Sex related became criminalised in ended up in the system and because of that aren't able to to be gainfully employed just kind of shedding light on and what really is going on so other examples. I like that you like another example I was I had I was having lunch with another colleague who have been talking about. an apartment complex. There was a black trans woman who had been squatting in his laundry room and he complained about it. eventually you know she had to be removed by. I believe the police removed her but when they removed her they found out that she had defecated in the washing machines and he kind of really complained about it and said this is just so gross and it's really inconvenient I I said. Can you imagine what condition a person has to be to not only squat in a laundry room but to maybe not necessarily feel so safe with Ben Carson repealing policies for Trans folks even be in shelters as many great policies and laws as there are in California. It's not so much about the policies. It is about the practice when you walk into those agencies you walk in and get those services. If you don't feel welcome you would rather just do what you know and find any hole and and hope that nobody bothers you so imagine you're having to be relegated to defecating in a washing machine. Imagine not not feeling comfortable accessing public facilities or public accommodations imagine feeling so horribly about yourself and your existence that Oh you don't care where you dispose of your waste it it's unimaginable and but that's that's the work that we have to do and so. I share these stories. I share these narratives to just bring awareness. Vulnerability is really key not by sharing everything that's happened to me and to my trans brethren. I hope to open doors and people's minds. I hope up to help create more AHA moments. You know I think We've got so much more work to do but I I still see these great moment and especially with young people. I believe that they teach us more than we could ever teach them. I believe that where they're taking the queer community we are going to be our minds are going to be blown in the not too distant future. I'm especially in learning even me as gender minority who believes altogether. I'm so knowledgeable eligible. I'm a trainer nationally. I'm still coming to terms learning about the different facets of my own community and the different identities that have always existed that I have not been as aware of I have I drank the Kool aid as far as the gender binary too and so I'm learning being about you know that there isn't just masculine feminine and that there is the spectrum and that just to welcome folks in all forms mm sublime who come from that spectrum same thing when it comes to sexuality learning so much more about sexuality we didn't know as much before we were so wrapped up in making sure we weren't dying as a community and now as we're moving beyond that I think as we get more for cerebral and intellectual about our quickness. I think older generations are like come on we were in this fight fight fight and even with you know you know a lot of the older trans woman. I know they're still in this fight. Fight fight mode but let's do some cerebral work. Let's let's do more work in academia lesson learn more about what makes us tick as well so we can explain these experiences so we can better advocate for ourselves so we can better explain to folks who are assist or assist gender heterosexual. Let's listen as learners is that the phrase listen learn learner if someone wants to get involved as a mentor to the LGBTQ community. Where would you direct them. I would expect them to the life works program at the Los Angeles Eligibility Center. you can can visit life works dot. Org fill out an application they've got amazing programs always looking for volunteers always looking for mentors wars people who want to work with young people but just remember though advice. I always give is whatever expectations you have of this work. Whatever expectations about the kind of young person you'll be working with those away because it's not about you. It's about them and where can people find you. You can find me on instagram. You can visit N. Dot I dot Dot Clark on instagram turnaround near you to find me by Nia Clark. Thank you so much for this for everything. You're the best thank acute. Thank you from me and I just want to say a great mentor. Thank you it. How does my hair look in headphones. Everybody's having fun for low lights so I can have a grow out doc. It's really accentuating my my lights and it's give it's pulling back in just the perfect way and then popping out right in the I mean great. I don't wear headphones but I would if I looked good and natural. You look like you're about to step up and do a do a line in a song how charity Garrity Benefit Song tastic like we are the world yeah we they were making that. Oh wow it's so good. It's on Youtube really. It's so good you have to put all your Michael Jackson stuff aside course which is hard. GotTa compartmentalizing this where else I mean. I can't anymore can't listen to Pam. I think I've turned a corner and I can't wow it's it's hard the I know before the documentary came out I watched the making of the we are the world before the HBO so I'm just cautioning the people who are standouts in the documentary. Kenny loggins really got. He has the voice of an angel his prime I'm that that was the Kenny loggins. I think such good hair so handsome we have Diana Ross Ross. We have of Ray Charles Charleston you offer yeah. Charles goes back in you know the I think it was. Is it smokey. Robinson was was no Quincy Jones guys. We're going to have to fact check but Quincy Jones produced the whole thing with Michael and they told everyone to check their egos at the door to just come in. Do your thing here's your part. Don't worry about it but some people came back and Ray Charles was one of them really really came back. They had him come in a second time to record some stuff later that night. Okay it was over. It was overnight with a it was it was always a bummer to me that there was no. We don't have a Madonna yeah. There were certain ones who just sat it out prince yeah famously. Why do you mean were they not asked. I can't imagine Saturday out. I I think because of Michael Jackson I think he just didn't want prints yeah. I think he just didn't want to be because he knew what we want. Them later learned. Maybe maybe maybe yeah I think he just didn't he didn't one of many yeah at the time was too much and Madonna might have been the same or she or she was away doing something something because it was right after the American music awards yes they go in a car they get in their cars and go right there all night writing session yeah. That'd be a fly on the wall sir. What led you down that Youtube. Hall are three kids and our middle kid his obsessed with eighties music wow now and he has turned to listen to Kenny loggins to do his homework while we I know I'm very proud to be your the older ones like in love with pop and anything that's in a club but the middle guys like Kenny loggins Whitney Houston. I WANNA dance with somebody all time favorite song of his tastes being cultivated in this house. It really is great. We are the World Yeah No. It's just before her moment earlier and what's her name. Yes Dion Smoking cigarettes. Yeah the weird thing is is to me is jody wildly is in. Do they know it's Christmas which was way before her mom right. She must have had a good policy or something because it was post Shalimar and pre looking for a new love. It was just kind of this weird period for jody wildly and she got the she was hot hot hot hot except she had no record out like and she had a very good publicity very very very angeline famous for being famous yeah. Have you had any angeline spotting. Oh of course yes. I've seen hurt again. I embarrassed myself with angeline. Do you remember when she ran for Hollywood city council. If they made Hollywood its own city. That was her platform arm yeah now. I don't know if she was advocating for the separation of Hollywood or she was just saying if Hollywood becomes its own real city. I want to be on the city council aw but voted for her. How could you not I and then I saw her shortly thereafter at a gas station Pink Corvette. You've seen her wars yeah you yes. She's she's omnipresent and I said I voted for. You and she's like it doesn't matter it doesn't matter we're not a city. I was like yeah. It's gotTa also thank you. What if I was in New York last last week and I saw Malcolm Gladwin who I think is the New York version of Angeline. Oh really is he. Omnipresent NASA's one of those words like you see him and it's just like this like seven days of good luck another two weeks of winter like something. There's something that happens when you see him. I'm going to right direction yeah. Welcome glad well is our yeah. He's he's he's the he's in the color scheme of New York. He's famous for specious reasons. It's it's all I think. It's the same yeah yes Morgan. What else is what else is playing in your house. What about when you're in control the music of the kids. Oh It's I love that coffeehouse mix on Pandora like I love a folksy blues the that's my my kids are like this is depressing. You must immediately turn it off. Joni Mitchell no I I love Joni Mitchell and I have. She is actually on my regular playlist. It's literally the Pandora coffeehouse mix so this this is how I can't name one band. Maybe like a Mumford and sons guys on the field. You'll get a Kobe Calais. Oh aimlessly Hamersley frequently. I'll do the Amos Lee station sure he's great background very soothing. You'll get a Raila montains. Yes thank you there. We go lottery. Lamontagne sure Donovan Franken Writer ooh. Oh you're going really well. I mean human alright. That's there's some. There's something obviously very soothing. I Aldea kids are like please for the love of God and we have it where you can like playing in different rooms of the house so there's a Kenny loggin's room Whitney building. I'm in control. I put that coffeehouse mix in a free rail yeah yeah. I think that's nice. I think it soothes the soul like a Nice Cup of coffee. Yeah what was the last one concert attended. Oh ooh John Pine and friends. Oh that's like now. This is very revealing about what I got going on but my gears are I know who John Prinicipal the road angel from Montgomery. He's like an great American songwriter and he was with Bob Wear from the dead. It was like Bob wareing friends chatty Smith. was there allowed. Stephen Stills. It was amazing really good night of songwriters. That's what I did last. I got it for my husband. Wow how about you guys for me new kids on the block a at the Hollywood bowl with did hear you talk about this yeah with naughty by yeah with salt-and-pepper with Tiffany with with O. P. P. It was fantastic. It truly was fantastic if we can count this while it was in New York Kosov share show of course. Can we not not share the share show that's on Broadway and it's I loved. It absolutely loved. It's it is that is not the same thing as I think it's good but I loved it yeah. It was Tuesday night. I had an early day the next day. I didn't WanNa like call anybody anybody. I knew I didn't want to risk going out and staying out late so I was going to get one ticket in the last row of the theater and I'm just GonNa see the Cher show like it was all my sons or the share show of course medishare's and and the mezzanine was about a third full so they moved us up who which was nice and there are three shares. I don't know how much you know about this. Share share but it's okay. I know more about all my sons than I know about the sheriff. Okay there's young up and comer share there is Seventy S TV star share and there's icon chair. I believe it is babe. Star and Lady is how their bill how although never called their dissolve share so each one of them drives the action at different points in the story but the other two are almost always on stage so they communicate with each other because it's also the different facets for personality does he definitely the Middle Section are or the pretty pretty early because yeah because he they met when she was a teenager. She was like fifteen sixteen and she wanted to be a singer and he wanted to be a young producer. He was slightly older. It's it's it's incredible. They do the really dumb lazy narrative like narration trick of like Phil Spector who who she's doing backup seeing for is like share get up on the Mike and Saint girl same adventure towards the audience. He says yeah but then she turns the oh I sang all right. I sang so loud that whatever that thing of verb alright happens seventeen times throughout the show. I don't think it's a theme I think they just got my writing style style with. Chas follow up. Okay chaz addressed. Chaz is always chess always channels. That's cool and always always neutral pronouns so it's like. I want to spend time with my child's. They need me. You Know Chaz his crying. It's all very it's jazz is Chaz. Which I think was a very warm progressive way to handle it. That's cool. It's also like Chaz Chas. The whole story is certainly worth telling but then that that's enough to sustain the whole musical then we have time to deal with babe and yeah legend legislative just kind of there is also a and the beat goes on comes late late in the show when shares acting career takes off she starts to get into the movies right so that is when young babe share comes back and drives the action because again because now she's young again she's in a in a new thing where she's inexperienced and and the beat goes on place but they but they changed all the lyrics. Mike Nicholls calls and I swear to God and she goes and that phone silk would and does a high kick right one and like dancers come out and do like a dance behind and it's like did anybody see social dance about Sopa kicker and then and then the lady keeps popping up as she like rifles off. The movies in the years like comes up from. I'm from beneath the stage in the the Oscar outfit from that year so you get really the outfits or the Star of the show yeah it's Steve. I got to say you do surprisingly only good share. Oh thank you thank you. I'm surprised you can do a good share of December yeah. Just go a little lower than you otherwise might lower. A little slower slower on twitter is something to her and her emoji lot of mostly emojis yeah. It's fun run to unpack into. Just it takes a three to four reads before you go. That's what she was trying to say. No I'm not I'm still searching. It takes a while. I mean you have three kids time really like getting their dig into shares messaging. I like when a big celebrities clearly manning the ship by themselves on social media. There's no one no intern is doing that for her. She is like Yep. I want three parentheses here. uh-huh yeah it would also if the president of the United States wasn't doing the exact same exact the same amount of supervision that what should Israel scary nightmare. I would rather share be the president of the United States media. She should re twenty twenty Morgan Yeah. Let's talk about gender nation. Let's talk about it. You guys himself happy to be here. Thank you for having me so happy. You're here and you were saying. The timing of this is good it because you have big stuff going on in July. Yeah we have mark. Two plus has signed on he recorded a video and we're doing a gofundme campaign and I'll i. I explain what it is so we donate. LGBTQ affirming books to public schools and we have a list of seventeen books is that has been curated through gender spectrum and educators and right now. We're focused on California because it's a lot of work in so we just try to be practical the goal with our initiative but seventeen books and they go to schools and we've now donated to all of Glendale Unified. I mean this is very California specific specific but you gotTa Start Somewhere Yeah Dale Beverly Hills just met with Burbank. They're signed on Torrance. Fontana Hannah like it's proliferating which is great and it's a practical initiative that we're very excited about it seems i. I can't believe anybody would not want these books in school but you'd be surprised and yeah you get to physically march up to that school once you have the books and deliver not deliver deliver them yeah it is we are first district with. Glendale and we came to the principals meeting so oh all the principals from all of these schools came out and each took a bag and that bag symbolized that school which was very rewarding. What are some of the books I brought some. Did you know it's a it's where obviously audio but my brought some that that are really good. Yeah so love is love is one of them. It's about two gay dads and how a kid navigates. It's talking about having a gay parents at school and how love is. Levin my two gay Dads or love me just as much as your mom and your dad it's okay to it'd be different todd partner really beautiful good and this one. I love sticker in here. Open Books Open minds this cook donated by Gender Nation how great and publishers like Leeann Low who publish sparkle boy they've partnered with us. Harpercollins has partnered with with us so they give us the books discount and when people donate we all the money goes straight to these books because our feeling was if these kids don't have support at home then maybe their school they can see their experience reflected back to them in a book and feel comforted for did yeah. That's so important right yeah. That's and it's so simple I might. It's just we all have a time where we connected with a book when we were kid. Regardless of mine was the Helen Keller biography really loved it. I was obsessed. I taught myself the sign language in the back of the book and I I didn't put that book down So do you guys have a fit Gerald MC boing boing boing boing who is he. Do you guys not know Gerald MC boy. I'm I'm never really. It's an early. I don't think it was written by Dr Seuss but it was illustrated by Dr Seuss or maybe or maybe I'm making that up. I think you're making up the entire is about a little kid who speaks only in sound effects and like so you know Boeing and crash you know he can sound like a train. You know whatever and he's actually reading it now. It's well well okay so the story is he he he just can't he never talks he just makes out affects and so in his parents don't know what to do with them and so they they either kick him out or he runs away but then he meets like a Colonel Tom Parker type who is like hey you've got you know you've got potential kid and and put them on the radio because they're doing radio plays and if you know a train is coming they put old. Gerald Nick Boing boing on the on the microphone and he makes the sound and then he he's like he's useful and then his parents want him back which is not so great because it's like you know you ought to go. No he can still do it but the the fact that he can do it and make money. I think is what what motivates the parents bringing him back wrong message. It's like kid. Get yourself out there yeah from scratch and then we'll you're not good enough until unless the thing that makes makes you weird is also lucrative or you know useful in some way for us. I believe that your favorite kids book was about a kid. WHO DID Radio Yeah Yeah. No no I mean I I. I was me from a very early age. Did you have won your Gerald McClellan. Willing absolutely I mean I was a wizard of Oz kid. which was you know the along? The books that everything in the book is a novel like it's not but I was digging into it. As early as I possibly could and was fully obsessed at I was also I said as many times on a regular podcast I was I think what we would now call gender creative creative and obsessed with all things traditionally feminine and wanted to play barbies and I wanted to rest. I'm just looking at this book called sparkle boy. You handed me me and thinking how much I would have this is about a boy who loves things that Shimmer glitter and sparkle and this this is something that would have meant the world to me because you didn't see here experience reflected around you where your was your family supportive. Boorda or my mom was as much as she could given her limited understanding of it in fact we're in rural. Ohio in a really conservative town my dad not at all. I was taking the therapy a couple of times like very early that I don't really remember but it was too two. I'm I'm sure my mom's mind. The goal was just just kind of like understand this in my dad's goal was to fix this. I don't know we certainly fixing. I can tell you that there's nothing broken. Now that's right. What was I mean. Do you recall or does your your mother recalled with the therapy what the therapist position was. It's so funny. This is the first time I've talked about it in as long long as I can remember. I don't think we've ever talked about it. As an adult I recommend me and my mom yeah. I mean my mom. Now is so supportive and mm celebrates everything about me and you know like too much too much every time she comes brings. All of these pictures were unlike dressed Esta any law professor dorothy holding my barbies I have my strawberry shortcake out and these are pictures that I'd like purposely did not bring with me when I left home and I'm now embracing yeah and I think that's her way of of saying I see you. I love you yeah. It's you know I only have the x by of Your Mom's uh-huh perspective that I've experienced with are the reason I started gender nation. We have three kids and our oldest a a boy he just always like you always liked withdrawn things that were typically feminine things and and I really didn't think twice about it because I thought his brains developing like our brain were brain is developing imaginative plays a huge part heart of building our brains so I thought why would you only have three colors to play with or a certain toy to play with. It just didn't make sense to me but I didn't but I also had to navigate that thing in the outside world because we don't live in a bubble and I was worried that people would be mean to him which I couldn't possibly bear that was just to crushing fathom and I was also struck at how vocal people were even here in Los Angeles. People were really really ready to point out with. They were noticing in him which also make because he was like. I'm just doing my thing and if everyone's like hey I see you know it can can be utilised like why am I getting this attention. He just wanted to be himself. and the years went on around first grade did he said I like know exactly where we were walking in the hallway back to our how back to the bedrooms and he was bedtime and he turned around and he's like mom. I don't know any boys like me. There are no boys like me and I have to address specifically what he's saying so because because he was so young at the time it's like you don't. WanNa I don't WanNa supplement all of what I think he's thinking or would I pr- projecting the future to be. I have to stay you know. I don't want to be ahead of his consciousness right. I want to stay with what he's saying to me and I'm like do you mean boys. Don't like sports. Jimmy boys dolls to mean because he did. He liked address up. He liked dolls. He loved fingernail Polish. He La this rainbow like pool beach cover thing that when you turn around it really really look like this beautiful spinning rainbow and he loved that so you mean and he said Yeah I said you want me to help you find some boys because I promise on issue there there and he said Yeah and at the time I can't explain why but I went to facebook and I typed in gender creative. That's such a great term. You used a typed in gender creative kids. Nothing came up and now of course tons of things but at the time nothing came up so I started this facebook hooker called gender creative kids Los Angeles to try to connect with other families. That was the original point very quickly connected with other people other parents. Hey My kid yes. Yes yes when we did this informal playgroup so we started to get together and that's really how it existed was just trying to set up this padded perimeter limiter for our kid but we were in a Catholic school like human take kindergarten in a Catholic school and you guys stopped me if I go on to when great story is about navigating it as a parent so I show Intel Catholic school he's like I want to bring Julie for show and tell and Julius American girl doll and I was like okay. You are like my. I was sure no problem so to him. I was like no problem but inside and like I have to talk to the teacher. I need to make sure he's protected because I can't. He's like a heart walking around the world you know so we get to school school and Julie has this like carrying case this backpack thing and we get to the entered the grounds and he's like you carry. Julie across the school school but when we get to my classroom I can take her back and I said okay so here is a kid who is already picking up messages you know and even though I wanted him to like raise Julie above her head and be like I like the lion king like I had to follow his lead need he had an instinct to protect himself so I had to stay with that and and I had not been able to reach the teacher the night before but anyway we get there and I look at her and my eyes are wide and I don't know exactly how to explain this. I don't even know if she's going to because the Catholic school cool like I don't know what she's GonNa say and it was my first experience with so our kid waits outside and I said the teacher can talk to you for a second go inside and he had like a butterfly pencil box and all those pictures are like hearts with eyelashes you know and she and I I looked at her and I said I I couldn't even find the words and I just said Ou. Our Son knows he's a boy but he likes girl things and he brought Julie to school and she was like are people making fun of him like her first thing and I said no I know and she I said I already know this. I know what you're telling me and I have his back not only in my class but the for the rest of the time he's at the school. Oh and I hear you and everything's GonNa be okay and I'm like okay great and then I sorta snap back into my body and I realize I'm talking to a woman in like a Hawaiian shirt and Khaki Pants Dan. This is not a nun yeah. She's like she's got it when it went fine and that was one initially time where where I was we were trying to find a place where our kids have to leave the nest. So how do we set up this padded perimeter not just for our kid but for other kids and realizing that normalizing this experience which is normal people like there's anybody who's like. We don't have that at our school. Yes you do do you do to you might put all of your effort into like tapping it down but it's there and tapping having it down is so damaging and what did he ever come home with stories about being fun of it being an issue. It's a few few years couple years later he quit. There's a few I witnessed it here and there but it was like I mean at Disneyland. He had very wings on and performer at the in the parade. These two guys that were chimney sweeps like from A. I'm Mary poppins. They were like look at the little fairy like that happened right in front of me but he didn't. I could tell that it wasn't they were doing to we each other. They weren't so it was an inside joke for them. Look you know there were just lots of comments and we've even had family members. Say things like it's not natural not in our immediate family and he held onto onto that for a couple of weeks on his own because he was trying to figure it out. You know he's like it's not natural that I like what I like like. He chewed on it with his tiny brain and then he just mentioned to me that that had been said and I was like you're a child like everything about you is natural and but I do understand and have compassion for for parents who struggle with wanting to protect their kid so you go through that like but does he wear dress off the dog because what if somebody drives by Yeltsin Elsa sorry yeah no so we went through all different incarnations like that and I'll say then later on an at a different school. He decided he was going to go to school as a girl for a week. After we had a birthday party in kids saw saw his room he made a decision. He was like he was like a minute. Go to school is a girl tomorrow and or just okay so we talk about stuff and I said hey can I call the school and talk to them and he's like yeah and I called them in my husband and I had a meeting with with the headmaster and the headmasters like if if your kid is up for it I'd like for him to talk to his class because we go to this really small school and the idea is that they're building citizens for democracy so he considered this to be like a beautiful teachable moment if he felt safe enough protected and wanted to do it. We were going to do this. Am I rambling of riveted lease so he he went to his teacher and I my husband and I were not with him for this and they took they fielded questions from the class and one kid said this is really weird. This is very weird and our kid was like well then. That kid got poundstone by. Everybody was like it's not weird. It's fine you know and our kids said I'll take three questions like he limited the conversation for himself which I appreciate. Jewish look out be taking three and one of them. was that comment but here's my point. I was at target buying him a new wardrobe. I'm Thomas needs so while he's doing this thing. I'm at target like rushing around buying all new clothes and and then I go to pick come up and he gets in the car and of course all I want to know is how did that go. How did the TACO but I'm like. Did you eat all your lunch today you know keeping it light and bright and like an Bingo that you were going to do and he's like it was good and I said did anyone say it was weird and he said one kid and I said one kid out of your whole class and he goes down. I go not bad not bad like let's move on. He's like yeah not bad and and then continued the week he did the whole week that way a couple of weeks into summer and then like I said and following his lead he we just had a selection for him in his closet of what he felt like wearing and he just he's which I think is pretty typical as they pick. Sometimes they'll pick the identity AH identity expression. That's just easiest so for him. He's pretty much presents the boy all the time and he he isn't transgender but he has a we're just following his lead because he talks about his sexuality now and now he's much older and and so we just set up the paddock perimeter and wait. There's lots of other things like doing your homework and playing sports and stuff that we gotta uh-huh you still have to deal with that. Yeah and don't talk back to me. How old was he at the time of this presentation. First grade first grade in that is incredibly brave. Yeah Yeah it is we developed. These sound bites of like. I like what I like. You can like what you like 'cause at birthday parties. There's goodie bags and frequently they they will be girl for girls and boys and he would of course always want the win for girls and then. I'd have to go to the mom and be like you have enough for this earn extra ah that he and one kid when we were leaving a party was like hey how'd you give that one and arcade was like Gotcha. I just asked for it. I like it. You can like what you like and he's like no. I like that. He didn't know that he could even ask for your raising. The kind of person that the world has not seen yet. I think which is I mean. Obviously there are messages. Our culture still sends in that are received by kids you can't there's not much you can do about that but I mean there's a lot you can do about that and you're doing get but but this is a kid who is going to have self esteem and self knowledge from the beginning which is sporadic new do yeah brando like world culturally brand new. I there was a show a segment on the today show today about gender gender fluidity and there's ten states now. You can your gender on your. Id can be X. Intense states like we are are the more knowledge we get we are. I mean I didn't know any I why I didn't know any of this until I felt compelled to learn what could learn still learning all the time right and yeah I'm curious. I love to see the today show segment but I would imagine agean that because you are you and your husband or are public people in so many ways that they're the as people learn about your story. There is some potential for media attention and the decision between you know wanting to be this incredible example for other families and also protect your own family's privacy. How do you make that call we aside from podcast like this. We aired on the side of privacy. You know were asked early on and now it's a little bit more more common these stories there are beautiful summer camps. There's all kinds of resources. Now that are popping up in California. Schools actually have have a mandate now to support kids called the Fair Education Act which is great to have equal representation books which is a big part of why we do the work. We do a gender nation. It's like schools are already overburdened so we're helping them. Fill meet this demand so the world is catching on but we did decide because like I said we didn't want to be ahead of his consciousness so historians still unfolding and yeah so it just didn't feel feel right to get to out there other than connecting with other families yeah. It's it's. It's like I still have the instinct to like. Make sure he's feel safe like he's in love with that book. Simon Simon Love Simon is different. The book is Simon with something terrible that I don't remember because we saw that opening night yeah. NPS Angelina and all her kids were right in front of us at a tiny theater north Hollywood. There's Angeline Angelina yeah and I love it. I'd be more excited to see Angelina Zelina. That's we're not. We're not team jen about that. Today's it's okay yes. He's obsessed with the book and last year we went to sleep way. Campaign was like bringing up. That was the book bringing and I was like. It's your first year. We'll camp camp like who is on a ranch. I don't know who's going to be there and he was like I'm good. I'm good and he's good. He is good. He's totally in our other. Two kids are good to like our daughter's like this make perfect for my brother. You know yeah they I take them to the forum we by Sephora out you know with Google Daydream yes. I shouldn't say we buy support out that sounds so you know what I mean. Yeah and it sounds like that. You're at a stage where there are there are all these resources sources like summer camps for gender food kids and thing things that that because you're following his lead you you don't necessarily feel is the this is not the time for some of that yeah well. I give him the option right so there's a monthly fleet group that meets and he's come to that and loved it and then sometimes he's like. No you know and I'm sure you guys have your own unexperienced too. It's like the first person you're coming to terms with is yourself right so you have that whole the experience of that journey before you even get outside your own faith if does that make deciding is my community unity and coming like whatever stretch of denial if any you go through in your own experience of like oh no. I I think I know this is about myself but I you know maybe not or you want to put you WanNa. Clamp it down so someone reminding you that it's okay can be uncomfortable terrible yeah. You know what I'm absolutely. It's a whole thing yeah and so we're your. I mean from from where I'm sitting. You have handled so masterfully every step of the way it seen. It feels like you're doing everything right. Everything that I would want want wanted you know my mom to do and I'm just curious who your how did you learn to to do that. Thank you for saying that okay now. I'm crying. Thank you for saying that I I don't know that I'm doing everything right. Parenthood is messy and we have three super different kids and I'm finding it on my feet and I talked to other parents. I mean Yeah I've been so grateful to have that was a big part of making that group was too. I'm like I don't know what to do. You know unlucky. Luckily there are people who wrote some books and were willing even more willing than me to be out there in vocals learn from them I also think like you know a lot of times. People say what you're saying. They're like Oh. You're he's so lucky. The and it's like I truly don't I feel like we're lucky like we have this experience this human experience sorry. This is super after heavy but hopefully we're here to learn and grow right so this stuff. I didn't know about this was he. He's actually offered me an opportunity to expand my mind so it's really been a gift and that's how I look at it. I'm just like Oh. It's I feel very lucky. I feel very lucky the the very we live in California. You know we're we're. We are in a rarefied kind of atmosphere here. When it comes to this sort of thing yes generally speaking like you're still GonNa. You'RE GONNA run into push back or whatever I find that boys especially and the the inner conflict that they sometimes have about not being boy enough or masculine enough is is at the root of literally everything that's wrong in the world. I'm I'm high fiving across the true I mean it is it is it undergirds everything that is negative. Yeah everything not just homophobia ev everything everything and even homophobe can really be boiled down to like. I learned how to hate that part it myself why can't you. I mean when you see somebody joyfully presenting as something that you are not brave enough to be it makes you angry and it makes you wanNA lash out and that's you know I feel like if we can start chipping away at that. There's so much in the world that we can accomplish yeah the previous administration. The Obama Administration invited me to go to the symposium. Wouldn't it be weird if it was trump was and that was a big part of it was there were pant all day long panels and it was about how to help boys who are born with the nurturing instinct not novel yeah born with that in you and it's squeezed out of you. It's denied and you're exactly right. Just it's underlying everything. What does the Jane Fonda quote about how we raise our boys. Do you know what I'm talking about now. I I will fuck it up. If there's she has an amazing quote about how there's so much in the conversation right now about how we parents are raising their girls and that there there needs to be just as much focus on how we raise our raising our boys the way you raise girls or something like that in terms of you know encouraging their are nurturing side and their sensitivity and there's a quote in the back of that love is love book talks about how it's so much easier to teach a child respect of others than it is to teach an adult not to disrespect others. It's like that's a big part of also why we do this work. It's like getting their young one in five kids. LGBTQ kids attempt suicide one in and five like that's unacceptable. It's wildly unnecessary and that number drops dramatically medically with even just a little bit of support. They're crazy. I know Oh my God and that one in five figure is only from when we started to even conceptualize the notion that there is such a thing S. Queer and gender non conforming and LGBT kids. That's brand new my there was a a story. My Mom told me when I was young she grew up Kinda. You know you know lower like poor in in north Saint Saint Louis. I'm poor but not wealthy and and there was a kid on her block who was who is a little flamboyant. I think was the word that she used and and how much like how shunned he was and how how tense things seem to be between him and his parents and and I remember asking what happened and she said it's a strange. He died in an accident. He was cleaning his father's shotgun and he and went off often he died and when I was a kid. I just thought I don't understand how that works it at twelve. It was like wait. No that was not that's not that doesn't that doesn't happen. That was a young queer kid who shot him and there was just because there was nothing. There was nothing for that kid. There's nothing for that kid I just I think what I my brain always goes back to like. It's just who we are. We are born who we are so we're who who we are so if that's the case like there's no getting around that you know there's no it will always be there and so we have to figure out how to embrace ourselves and just just you know. I hope that you know what I'm saying. Yes what and what's happening. Now we got ah sidetracked from the marketplace. Oh yeah so with gender nation so yesterday we met with the Superintendent of Burbank and Burbank unified and that's looking just got scared that I'm saying living. I think it's fine it was a great meeting. I'm working on a middle school list. That's my next mission right now. Our List is very comprehensive for elementary kids. Middle School is like there's some really great waie novels out there right now so and it's just about cab rising awareness getting resources to buy these books like I said the publishers have been so great about partnering so we get these books at a discount. It's like two hundred and twenty twenty dollars to give a school like twenty five books vets and it's it's just such a practical mission practical but profound yeah. That's that's where we're at. Why we we should for this mean. The Love Simon Book is really good. Man Up is another really good one. Oh God and of course I give I'm been buying them on Amazon is on and then having my kid like read them all and I kind of get an idea of if it's when he can just set aside or if he can't stop turn pages in all I wit I can't he you just devoured two other ones recently so there are there and listener we will let you know are you familiar with Theresa Thornton and yourself her and a generous donor angel purchasing one hundred copies piece of her book that we're going to include in our list Theresa and Jesse Thorn Parents a transgender child and Theresa wrote a book called. It feels good to be yourself right. That is really beautiful. It's awesome yeah yeah. We've done plager- with them a few times yeah so. I mean every listening is GonNa WanNA support generation clearly do they just go to generation dot org. Yes Gender Nation Dot Oregon. There's a button I finally figured out how to do that on a website. It's a button for donations anything at all helps every dime goes to these books folks and we did a big huge book purchase at the beginning of summer but we're going to be do again especially after we give to. Burbank like you know. We want to keep them in stock. I sort of had this fantasy that we can nine one one books to schools all over the country. If we can't go district down down you know maybe there's a school where we hear about. We read a story about something tragic happening. We get them a set of books so right now. We're tackling California elementary schools. We're about to tackle middle schools and then are we going to high schools. Yeah that would be national. We're going matching going worldwide. Yeah I mean I would imagine that's the scalable mission. It's just about out man manpower and Resources and we are legit five. Oh One C. Three which I could. You know people are like do this like you can do it. And of course I was so scared. I'm I'm scared. I'm supposed to have a book reading at Secret Headquarters Books in July and we're going to do a story do like a story hour and I'm like I'm scared to do that thing where you throw a party no incomes. I know people are going to come but her hair middle school trauma of no one's. GonNa come to the Party in your company. Party and we're GONNA do a storytelling show which you guys will have to be at. UC In our sanctum in September yes so that fun you guys will we'll do a bit on clear in yeah would love that that's going to be a mix of music and storytelling actually reading these books. We're going to do for people who don't want to to tell a story or do a bit. They have the option of reading a little bit from a book or doing something off of a book but I'm hoping people just like an open mic night. I'm hoping people just do a little bit so thank you Morgan. You're my hero. Oh you're such an inspiration and I love you. Thank you for doing this. I love you. Thank you for having me guys thank you. The mortgage started telling a story off Mike. That was so good. We were like we gotta get. We gotta get back on my so you were asking you kids anything and I remember that we were at this birthday party hardy and there was it was at one of those places and there's a big dress up box. There's an option and put on a ferry wings in sparkle skirt and was running around in this kid was there and he had Derrick Jeeter Jersey on and he said to our kid like you can't wear that you're not a girl role and my husband goes my grown. Adult husband said to eight nine year old boy. You're not Derek jeter perfect not derrick jeeter and that is the perfect slam gorgeous. I he dunked on Tator Kid. I also wish that Matt was my dad your husband so please let him know. I will and if you have any more stories both pop. Thank you thank you. This is awesome uh.

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Men in Blazers 11/20/19: Spurs Emergency Pod

Men In Blazers

16:50 min | 1 year ago

Men in Blazers 11/20/19: Spurs Emergency Pod

"This is Rebecca Lowe will rebecca if you listen to sub optimal radio and you on this thing to men in Blazers on the NBC sports network. Aw this is rod going. Oh Michael Ball borrow bringing you the men in blaze version of the daily caller doing break down the massive massive footballing story of the week. Yes I funds. The pool of paid Brendan Road. Just five million dollars to buy the house so mercy he's been grunting to you again. KLOPP higest let's dive in war. Why twenty four hours of searing emotion for Tottenham Hotspur? Marie part Schettino has been sacked. Possibly the saddest sacking ever satisfy break-up Evan they winners hair which is worried about the kids and that was before new step Bradley moved in. He's no nice man. Yes I am reading. This is by still calm. Believe Joe Say Marina is the new manager of Tottenham Hotspur Portuguese. That'll finger he back waking up this morning to the club. Photo of him. Holding up a Tottenham Jersey it was it was surreal it. It wasn't like what Photoshop my looking at it was like. Is this black mirror level science fiction. My is saying this whole thing to me. It's as if Arsenal TV viewers been allowed to choose the neck spurs manager. Yeah I know I know Marino. We Know Always Beats Arsenal Boston. Fans know the long game Joe Burns down every club. He's leaves it just in smoldering pile of embers. We might soon be living in a post spurs world. Let's break it down. I watch is sacking was it was saying it was I felt feelings. I it it's Jerry O'CONNELL's vern be beaten up helplessly before our very eyes one minute put. She's digging for parts of Pennies Cherry flavored Pez commanding his team to their first Champions League. Final Alan Jude. Didn't we all tweet. This is football is about save a moments like these these. This is everything. Six months later poof. He's gone spurs this like a footballing. We were all stalling. It was sudden. It was emotionally devastating. But at the same time it's also rational spurs. They've not been the spurs of our imagination up there in the primarily for nearly you got a bit of a shift on whims guns point where you kind of imagined the hierarchy really. Dan Levy looking at poach on the beach turnaround. And just say I wonder if the sad that be without. You would be less than the Saturday get for being with the because yes portrait perform miracles. He had sporting miracles to me. Human Miracles with his energy. Intensity intensities grueling training ground pressing experienced spending the day with him. It's called the perfect fool. The way cups his hand and he kept everyone cubs fan for hurricane. Cups his hand for assistant coaches cups his hands for the receptionist. Same potch hi five. It's a it's a high five like no other. He kept his hand to make the perfect part. The perfect noise and I do believe in that pop and he did make a rule where all spurs players had to go on the training ground immediately. I think shake hands with each other shake hands everybody the ground and he transformed aspirated yet brittle self sabotaging spurs culture and turned into something. Wonderful really wonderful. Let's be honest. Objectively young tenacious thrilling spurs of their best. We're a collective clenched fist. Even better the spine came from Spurs Own Academy. But what what are they now. They're fourteenth by the way I'm an epson funded by hand off for four seats but again beat downs that seventy buoyant. The three three nil Brighton. Spurs have not won an away league game since January twentieth. I mean these stat. She can read them. Everywhere they picked up as many premier mealy points in two thousand nine hundred dollars West Ham Burnley fewer than Crystal Palace beyond the status clear like any relationship. The love is Gone Spurs. Yeah the field in the same place. Still Harry K. Now they're Christian. Erickson Sony the same body. They look different mentally tie. It put self admits he has an existing training regiment is tactics of exhausting. Some of the players for Tongan Eric said clearly mentally or elsewhere squad locker room infected by players. who hadn't been so but wanted away donny? Rao's and then you throw in one degrading injury off to another and you get drip drip drip. WHO So? We'll we'll say none of us what was going on not just over the past couple of months. The past year between March and Daniel Levy the controlling and and single-minded Spurs chairman for a long time broin no reinforcement force porch to perform law season to me managerial was a kindle limitation. Magicians can spin plates. PODGE can spin plates ultimately they come crushing down and this season spurs at worn down at every level relationships energy levels collective belief just burnout burnout. Burn the athletic writer. Jack broke quoted an insider he said places regime and they're sick of him. We what's fascinating is potch. Never lost the fans never but they were external to all of this internally. We know footballing projects. A fragile team coaches take so long to build build like souffles they can implode overnight look at Klopp Dortmund and what I do know is that we only know half the story of what happened behind closed doors. It's possible hospital that we can hold two things to be the truth. potch is a great man who will do great things elsewhere but he could no longer do that. Job a Tottenham Hotspur. We still need to find out. Why was it is? Relationship with Daniel Levy the players and their willingness to continue to follow is punishing regimen. Human was his own focus is energy was of you know when you get out of bed in the morning whether you've got to get through the day and my law was intense. The burnout was tangible. Good news for him. Who Ride off ever walkaway payment of around fifty million dollars that will hail his pain overtime? The question is how will he be. Remembered does the fact he won though trophies blemish the PACI TI no spurs era. I think the answer to that to villainous is determined by whether you support team that wins trophies routinely like city in Chelsea but one that doesn't yes like Kevin because the big sixteen they can scoff. Show me the trophies but what I saw parts do it. Spurs is what I believe. Football is all about took a club colts that was on. Its knees had two managers in six months. One of 'em with Tim Bloody Sherwood once say we had a couple of spurs players. I whoa name them. Come into our students film and we have an enormous head of Tim. Show what floating around the studio. It's numerous it's probably half life size in real your life. And one of the Spurs says. He won't just stopped in front of the enormous head. A Tim Sherwood pointed out. It looked English went Nah and and then left yes. He was porches predecessor. Nah and he left behind the locker room. There was agitated divided a bloody mess and he turned into a brave committee. Julius Fools they love playing together that they looked for porch to love playing with each other eh playing for the fans and together. They gave us memories we'll never forget tend to perennial self sabotage into repeat Champions League qualifiers. No Small Molefi second-place finishes even will them into the Champions League final and filling robust buccaneering thrilling football in the process. Gop Out Nathan for captured it. Best for me said I will never forget the semifinal win against I asked the miracle the image of that night or the way. NFL when that third goal winning in five years podge gave us more than Daniel Levy ever has tongues hundred now. He's gone hippie winds have thing and that his next club. We'll have ambition as big as his because he deserves it. Hey Hey pods will end up somewhere. Wonderful as he saying about by Munich Club that suit Tim Club that needs him. PACI Manchester United would be almost too much for me to bear but I will say this as a last word on the Gen to to me. Football is about human achievement award trophies and do believe potch and his team of assistant including Jay's Peres you remember Waikiki. Here come snaky. They gave their all their passion that vision. Their ideas are everything and there's a neutral. It was thrilling to witness so we had a vacancy nature of Accu. Jacob said to me first thing he said when he heard about poetry sacking. You just turned to me said a pet Tim Sherwood just pull on pants and shave for the first time in six years and I thought about you Clinton looking at himself in the mirror and thinking. Yeah it could be I. Frank Lampard Coulda told them God Josie. I'm sure breathable breathable. Yeah could be spurs got US whole skill but in Sales Joe sameera which I still can't believe even as a say a man who's been been flinging himself at every major job opportunity for the last five months sorry Chicago fire homemade us. Keep telling yourself that I couldn't believe when I had a reported last night. It was like if someone I can't about told me I'M GONNA marry Kevin Federal Line. We're in love. I felt the same thing. Don't do it. Everyone knows it's going to end badly. They think again. Maybe anyone who knows anything about football or relationships ships will be aware. It's not gonNa work and the coaches. How is it happening and the answer to nothing is just Daniel Levy? Only he knows it. Some bloody gamble okay to me Joe. Sameer says eight screams of desperation porch gave Tottenham thrilling football movements. Wonder why started to realize this morning. Churn Pelosi's actually those jobs. That spurs don't win trophies. All those photo shops of the Trophy Room in Spurs New Stadium. Stadium memes I memes that it and those names. They must've her because Marino does both did win trophies trim fees. That's what he does. He Wins v any blood D- trophies. It's almost done you'll leave. He wants trophies. Like Golan wanted a ring precious because cleanly only looking at the good poll merinos Linton resume skipping over where it says he burns the place down in the process. And you think about clubs they do have a soul up believe this taught them how to sew. Abington has so not city has a so. I'll still has the clubs. Have Souls and this move failed filming. Solis antithetical in every way to the values at least potch bill. I'm practically punch performed is one. That's using the equivalent footballing wise if supermarket coupons eclipse probably at Jay. Z's Peres clip the coupons. Yeah the net spend the one hundred forty million dollars abor is five. And a half years at Tottenham Seventeenth amongst current Premier League teams. The journalist. Daniel Story Story noted Joseph Marina olmecs match total over twelve weeks spending spree in two thousand eighteen. When you think marina exactly think youth development mental wonder if Daniel Levi's watch whiplash? I wonder what Ryan Session on sinking. I wonder what Oliver Skips thinking. I wonder what anyone who is named in honor of Kyle Walker is thinking in that Youth Academy on the brink of that team to completely whole different world. They've woken up to this morning. And here's another startling. Piece of News Tottenham reportedly paying jobs say nine hundred million dollars a year which means the ends one hundred and fourteen thousand dollars a week. More than any of the clubs plays plays new players. Don't love that. How they react will be the teller of how this goes F. Silva zero zero? Zero eight tweeted Deli will be the one to get a tattoo. Start vaping listening to whatever crap rebel kids. Listen to these days. Sony will brewed in his room and stop painting. Quesnel his best to hold the family together and Ericsson an older brother who sold it and leaves hospice. School does need a clear and rebuild is going to full like no come. As and when the uncertainty in that every spurs fun. I've spoken a fair. That means a return to the mean. Remember all of this has been captured by US and Amazon's all or nothing documentary film-makers a- show this looking more nothing every week. How will the end? We know how they said. We we know the sand inside three years. We're very dia. Throwing bibs at Marina on the Spurs bench and Joe say demanding ending respect respect respect while they're saying also manager Jack Wilshere but the question is how many trophies will leave one by that token also they came for potch West Ham will end do their job in higher. Ed Murray this is just the worst episode of wife Swap Ever Spurs fans. I feel your pain. You're feeling all of the emotions you feeling whiplash and raise my to think about Lucas more. Poking the ball into the net charging away in glory pooled glory. The best kind I think part Schettino Tino dropping to his knees a giant of a man brought Satay is by the ineffable the human emotion but football at its best. I can bring I think of love. I think of wonder I think of hope. There's always hope could be worse. Remember telling yourself there she could support Everton roll on seven thirty. Am Eastern time this Saturday little finger marine you will be on your sideline chaos is allowed. We will be back back the men in Blazers to break it all down Monday of five thirty. PM EASTERN TIME ON NBC returning to your television after the Big One yes asked him Newcastle Quick Reminder. The men in Blazers national team tracksuits hopes. They made life worth living thing which we design with Umbro. They're on sale. 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Sgt. Robert Sheenan & Officer Matt Burkey of the Mesa Police Department | #GoodMorningEVIT

Good morning, EVIT!

08:15 min | 6 months ago

Sgt. Robert Sheenan & Officer Matt Burkey of the Mesa Police Department | #GoodMorningEVIT

"Good morning even bring marshall the host of good morning event and this is a new podcast. Whose purpose is to help. Even staff and families stay connected. Thank you so much for listening following along on some of these adventures. I really appreciate it. Inspiration for today's episode comes from students. Shout out to an officer for being mentor. That inspired me to reach out to mesa. Pd for conversation about community and mentorship. And i'm so thankful to have opportunity to bring to you. Sergeant robert she han and officer. Burkey surgeon sheehan. Could you please introduce yourself and tells a little bit about. You does absolutely so My name's robert sheehan. I'm the sergeant over our youth development unit which is in between engagement division. So i oversee our police cadet program that officer burkey run. You also have various other programs like mesa program at keno. Junior high school teen court run police athletic league so we play soccer basketball different sports with kids. Usually at the boys and girls club one of the program's all talk about throughout. This is our youth leadership academy these leadership academy so open to high school age students. It's the summer between your freshman and sophomore year up until your senior year. It's two weeks in the summer that we host monday through thursday. It's free to all the kids. We see breakfast and lunch. Throughout the time and over the years we've had parents who because of school boundaries don't follow the city boundaries. You know like they'll have friends in the mesa school district. They hear about the youth leadership academy and they're like well. I want my kid to go. And so we'll get him gilbert chandler queen creek and mason. Patrick junction cohen can relate so much. It's the same thing over eve. It we serve the entire east valley. So when you're coming into a class or program you have diversity and you need to be able to learn to work with the team and the best part about it is seeing them really grow and get out of their shell. It is an an like for yourself. It is so cool to see these kids come together. These kids didn't know each other. They'd never would have known each other coming from opposite ends of the city and here they are now best friend. What's it like for you to be a part of this. It's amazing when you're in a career like this you know whether you're a nurse firefighter doctor. you know. you're dealing with everybody. In the worst time of their life and then come into this and the kids and the hope that the world our country has is just so incredible. It sounds so rewarding. Now let's talk skills. Can you share what they learn how that helps them in our community on day one. He put them in an uncomfortable situation. We allow them to go up to the top of our seven story fire tower and they repel off the side of it with our swat clough. And how does that help them be successful just to get over their fears. Give them confidence. It's safe that supervise and you can do it. That's awesome. What else do you incorporate into the program job interview skills. The dangers of texting and driving indian distracted. But then on the other side we throw in a lot of the police things that people just see on tv and they want to learn about it. Do swat canine demos. We have our driving. Instructors show them some of the driving that Police officers go through. So they'll do you know reverse one eighty on the trash and that's one of the hits with kids and then giving back to the community we also feel a service project in there and all of our service projects go to veterans. That's cool. is there a project that you'd like to share before we switch the conversation up to mentor. Ship and introducing officer burkey last summer. We had to cancel due covid year before that There is a veteran. Her brother had cancer and so she moved from california to here to help take care of them but she didn't have the funds or anything else. A house was actually donated through veterans organization and all our kids went there and repainted it and replace bathrooms and flooring and things like that and just three built this house for her so that she can move here and take care of one of the things that i'm enjoying the most about this is feeling the love and admiration respect and the drive that you guys are pushing these young individuals to grow and i thank you both for coming on officer burkey. I can't wait to hear about the mesa. Cadets program and you welcome to the show i have meat. I'm born and raised here in mesa arizona. I joined the united states marine corps when seventeen. I'm graduated out of red. Did six years in the reserves deployed overseas and operation iraqi freedom. There's a long line of military service in my family as well as law enforcement so as scamming tradition and joined up here the mesa police department in two thousand eight service andrew families services well what is the cadet program arc. That program has been around since nineteen sixty nine was first established by a couple officers and voided entail is basically creating a better understanding for the youth in our community and building their cohesive relationship between law enforcement officers of the city and pretty much high school to college age program. I've been at this position for last or years. And although it is a law enforcement program. Second objective of the program is to make a more well rounded and more productive citizens. If you look at today there's so much divisiveness. 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Inside Coach Isaiahs Mind: Takeaways from USAC Level 1 Coaches Education

FasCat Cycling Training Tips Podcast

1:11:49 hr | 1 year ago

Inside Coach Isaiahs Mind: Takeaways from USAC Level 1 Coaches Education

"From Fast Cat coaching. I'm Frank Overton and this is our training tips. PODCAST being able to get faster is based on and being able to FDA you gotta crime the Doj Oh to laugh on the battlefield the shit that will kill them and I was always an advocate. You could accomplish more with sweet spot training in writing and soon to fall. Performance Endurance Nutrition and weight loss is all about your future Najwa. That's what winning in the kitchen is what would believe do just feeding yourself getting fast. Welcome to the fast cap podcast where we're on a mission to make you faster cycles. Pass Catheters head coach. Frank Overton long fast cats today we are talking about coaching Ching Education and we have coach Isiah newkirk in the house. Say Hello Welcome. Isaiah Isaiah recently recently went down to Colorado Springs the headquarters of USA cycling and took the Level One coaches certification. Asian course yeah and and he's going to tell us about it he's going to. We're going to talk about what he learned. We'll probably get into some coaching philosophy. And the general belief sin in just the way that a coach thinks yes. So how was it just off the top of your head. It was great. It was great. I mean as a coach. There's not a whole lot of opportunities to step back and just sit down and think with like minded people and kind of just discuss coaching philosophies advanced coaching just general practices is as well and different scientific studies. That have been used and so on so it was really cool to just sit down with basically twenty something other coaches that Do this for a living in mom hash it out. Neutrally great so nice that I remember when I took the level one clinic that was like two thousand six. Believe maybe two thousand five a memory is fuzzy. Have a great story of with Adam. Meyerson Persson and Brian Walton. That was like my generation level on clinic but Kristen Dr Christon diaw was my instructor as well as yours. Recently area Eh. Yeah the instructors are great. I mean Way To pretty experienced instructors they both less through basically two different topics Khorasan targeted more. I guess the I don't know like I guess. The psychology side of sport in more mindfulness and less of the scientific work in other instructor covered the scientific background how to apply that so it was both covering Geno uh-huh practices within coaching cycling's Pacific. But then the nice part is Kristin has such a good background within sport and other governing bodies like hockey and basketball and just everything that we were able to apply more than just cycling. So Yeah Yeah. The type of coaching education that is relevant to all coach's not necessarily just cycling and I think you can learn a lot from like getting an interdisciplinary approach to coaches like Mike's Zaluski which talked about I read all the coaches books like Nick Sabin I follow what's that Golden Warriors. Coach's name Steve Kerr Man. He's he's like twitter hero but yeah it's just great to to learn from from other coaches in for the podcast listeners. There's not there's not a textbook out there I mean I don't to my knowledge. I don't think there's can you majoring coaching. I don't in. Yeah so actually. Kristen has school for Learning Basically Essentially coaching so outside of Sport Science and then also basically sport education. So what you think is the PE teacher You can major in that. There is more expansive knowledge within that. Like now I think that They do Masters Program. I don't know there's PhD program but you can do expansive education on how to be a quote unquote coach. And it's really interesting when you go into other sports and other governing bodies there's a lot more volume there there's more thought process there. There's more textbooks there's more predefined bullet points. It must be covered so within thin hockey with hockey there's really very quality textbook that's kind of like laid out as far as the development within athletes Protocol within coaching athletes and within development. And other things like that. So it's really interesting and and it's such a contrast to cycling or there's literally nothing nothing there's no USA. Cycling has Sport and they have different textbooks that are laid out within how to coach. Technically technically. But there's no you know no one really defining that day to day or forcing coaches to period like you don't have to do it right right. Yeah so it was just interesting to learn a lot of that stuff because it was such a different world which is cool. I helped cycling gets her someday. I think it would enhance the sport. uh-huh yeah like how do you mean like like 'cause I coach. I think most coaches out there coach from experience. It's like okay. Here's how we were coached. Here's what I've learned along the way. Emma blend those two together and I'm apply that is to my athletes and then along the way I'm GonNa you you know. Just continue to refine optimize my my approach to the way you know I help other athletes right. Yeah let me think like. And that's how would I did too and then as you get farther along you basically are letting go more of like how you coached or how you do things. And then you're starting to expand Don. Well maybe I should try this or maybe this will work or not just sticking to a strict guideline of what you have to do for every single athlete you're expanding that repertoire. And then mom pushing that the horizon within other sports but they have is set ground rule of what needs to be done and then how how to expand on that so instead of coach's coaching how they were coached and they might do that. I guess a little bit. They have kind of textbook to refer to as a way of starting where you have. I'm sure for good for bad. You have our of vast pool of coaches. That wrote this book that you can refer to and I think a lot of it actually one of the big topics that we discussed a lot. On during Level One was youth development and how that Youth Development needs to be better in general and especially within cycling and other sports and other governing bodies including fluting just like governing bodies sport general have that development really defined in really. I think that that's that we need a little bit more of that. Because because how you approach youth athlete and their development they might be just like a world class talent that could be something that really really guys them into a great place and it also could be something that guides them to the end of the sport Into burnout makes big difference in a lot of pressure as a coach. But it's really important. Yeah absolutely so. This clinic was five days like a stage race. Like nine to five. Eight to five live is eight to five every day. Sometimes we went over. We had lunch together so straight block like no one left. No one went for like a mid day rhino. I know one went for a workout like it was straight block and it was in the springs and there was snowstorm middle of it. Yeah who's intense but schools. It was a lot of learning. It was a lot of like time. Crunch like we had a lot in into that period of time But it's cool. It was at USA cycling which was Nice. It's always a cool place to be and then it was about. I think twenty five of us who supposedly wanted the bigger classes. These clinics is done every two years. So it's one of those things that it's a vast majority of very experienced people the requirements to do level one. You have to be a level two for five years or a continued education requirement It's pretty strenuous. So that means that you know minimum just to be there you have to have had level two for five years and then you know this is little bribe. But in general if you've had little for five years and you want have your little one you're probably a full-time coach like that's probably your job. And and that was the general case within the room the cool part is there were quite a few collegiate coaches and there was a couple naika coaches. There's one so it wasn't just individual or straight block just like individual athletes. There is a lot of team dynamic coaches there which is really the need because that brought in a whole different level of how to approach coaching team and not just one individual athlete or individual scenarios. It's a big difference. Those cool to touch on the I guess. The average level of coaches are number of years of the coaches ever. There were ten years so that means the vast majority of them were coaching for more ten years and it was a lot of experience a lot of knowledge within the room and you could tell within how people were asking questions in what people I to say. There's definitely buried different dynamic of who was in the room. There's some people that were very very firm and what they believe in others. That were a little more open to new knowledge and asking questions not telling so it was by you know when you stick a lot of people that are experienced. One Room and coaches tend to have opinions. It tends to result in some strong opinion for loud opinions. Right some healthy debate. Yes yeah that's awesome inside to. Do you want to run a stew like like what you learn day. Today today is like at a high level like I'm sure you cover exercise physiology sports science maybe power based training but probably some other things is that our listeners may not realize is a part of coaching. Yeah so we kind of structured in half's offs every day so one half would be on coaching as a profession. And how you want to coach and then the other half would be science-based so it was more Taking studies applying them to particular athletes. Or wire win. You would need that so the first half being coaching. Who's was nice? It was like step back. Ask yourself again like okay. You've been doing this for ten years ask yourself again. Why Are you coaching? And what are you doing doing in the first exercise did which was really basic which I think some people might enjoy. It was essentially them asking. When you think of a coach what what do you think of and post it note in draw that and pretty much I would say? Ninety percent of the broom drew your Jim Coach like their basketball p. e. teacher. And that's in. This is like fulltime coaches that are drying so you ask the general public. What are they gonNA draw? Probably GonNa draw that we expanded on that and it was like a middle-aged man blowing a whistle. All in a baseball hat like totally had one of the very one did. Do you remember the bike shorts. Not Not but it was the bike brand. They were they. Ah they're like softball pants but coaches warm and had a big fat waistband. Yeah Yeah Oh man. Yeah that's totally what it was but it was just interesting to hear that from the Profession of the of coaching sport. And well. That's probably not a good thing that the vast majority of people are drawing this like kind of negativity Environmentally like personified person. So it was just interesting and then what do you want to be. Then that's the general consensus of what a coach is what you trying to do. And what are you trying to expand on. What are you trying hi to bake your profession? Which is great because essentially then we all just kind of like? We thought we had this idea of what coaches are now. Let's try expand on that and how to make it better so you know instead of just being this middle aged do that screaming at a bunch of kids like. Why don't we expand and have it be like? Are you connecting with these kids. How are you making them better? How are you pushing the sport without being like a negative impact or pushing them too you quickly or do you just want to be this like textbook coach or do you want to be somebody? That's changing and adapting and moving and so that was essentially really a lot of the first stuff that we covered which was nice because then it as a group we realized. Hey we need to do something about this. And what are we gonNA do for it. Nara was are defining what coach is as far as their level of. I guess like not competency Consi but basically just their ability to coach and what that means so like a beginner all the way up to an expert It was really interesting that they showed us like a save. A basically sheet of what Beginner Coche is defined as a incompetent coaches defined admitted proficient coaches to find an expert fit. And you could. I could call coaches to mind and Kinda like think about where they land kind of interesting because it's like as a beginner. All right well you probably just coaching as as you were coached or coach as so you know what worked for you. Basically re applying what. You've been told her right exactly told to do. Yeah and and it's very like you either do this or you don't. There's no Adaptation there's no change. There's no manipulation. There's no customization itemization. It's basically like you're customizing as you was customized for you Like one of the things they mentioned was like. They don't know what they don't know because they just haven't gotten and to push beyond that yet and it's very one way then you have like competent coach that goes in starts to develop skills to minimize. Maybe even the time that they're coaching so like every they start to realize. Hey if I'm doing this full time I need to be pretty pretty proficient with what I'm doing. And it needs to be on par to save me time and energy then also like starting to expand. They know emphasis on building skills. And not just having it be like. Are we going to do it. This way recognizing a really big changes recognizing the impact act on the athletes alive so like maybe that'll make a difference in their family life and Exactly Yeah Yeah. And then just changing like strategic knowledge knowledge and actually applying different thought processes. And then. That's I would say. At least in my opinion. Probably vast majority wordy of coaches new ones are going to be within the beginning our realm for sure and I think a lot of just like bike racers that decide to coach on the side. That's probably where they're gonNA land because they don't necessarily devote a lot of time and energy into profession. Yeah I think what you're is another way of relating to what you're saying is in because you know when I got started in my coaching career. I would like nerd out out on the most minute. Detail really stress that with my athletes and I think that's the expression You're you're missing the forest just because you're focusing on the trees and you know nowadays like I don't even bother with The minutia the stuff that I've learned over time to experience it doesn't really matter and it's really you're just coaching on fundamentals. And now we're looking at the forest and yeah the trees are important born but we really emphasize like the forest. Just make sure those fundamentals. Yeah Yeah and then I think coaches that have been doing this for a while and once you find your path. It's like almost like path through the forest that you navigate and then there's particular trees that you probably anchor on the path through the forest to like really Focus Basan because you know that makes a big difference compared to focus on every tree right. I mean like when when I was in a you know a new coach coach I mean that was when power meters in power based training was all brand new. I mean like I mean I would comb through power thousand thousand I would mention this and this and I mean to be honest. I don't really come through. Power falls too much anymore. Training files race files. Yes but like we. We would probably emphasized that like strict structure of it. Too much badge didn't have the experience at that point. One conversation I had yesterday actually that I thought that I've been kind of juggling is in this level one clinic in day basically how to sit down step back and think about what makes a different level of a coach and that progression of being a coach. And there's no shame in being one level or the other like it's it's all a progression and we're all striving to be. Hopefully the best that you can be and like to me being an expert coaches this like ever chasing thing that I may never get to. I'm okay hey with that. But that's like but that's just me trying to be a perfectionism not necessarily if I'm comparing myself to other coaches. What would be considered but something I thought was interesting using is I agree with you? The fact that you almost need to focus less on the details as you go farther and farther into the profession but what's also interesting is when you coach elite level or pro level athletes. You almost have to like step backwards and focus on those minute things more and like like gave a little bit more detail into the data or say like our I. Will you were at this particular. Grammy needs to be this one next like in order to get this results. You almost have to like step back in time. And how they define Compton beginner and proficient and expert you almost go back like the beginner standpoints till like touch with those elite athletes. It's very interesting because it's like you almost have to be more detailed and I just thought that was an odd thing. Yeah Yeah I mean. I think a lot of times when you're coaching someone you know. We talk about elite athletes and Masters athletes and Juniors. But I think if I think of him as humans they all have a brain in. It's really how we as coaches can get them inside their head Ed to bring out their best and I don't think there's really there's like elite mindsets and there's non elite mindsets but I I have like cat for masters athletes have like an elite mindset. So it's really a fun part of coaching because you can recognize when someone's really motivated focused and they're strong mentally they may be. They may not be an elite level. Athlete that per se. So I do that part of Kolja and that's one of the things they list mentioned was once you get to like proficient and expert level coach you start to rely less on those like individual data points and you start to recognize more. I think it was more eloquently. Put it in the list but essentially it was how you recognize. Nice someone is as mentally athle- where their drive is from and calm like comprises that individual which is a really important thing need to be able to decipher. Yeah they got their shit together. Basically in life and you can tell they're going to be successful like a lot of times you you know whether you're a leader. Not You know you can just see their training habits as a coach and just realize okay we that's a fundamental we need to work on that versus versus You know a certain maybe like an elite level type of thing. Yeah Yeah I mean. It's it's that's all part of coaching. We like we as coaches the listeners. Out there we are. What's the expression jack-of-all-trades jack-of-all-trades master of none? Yeah really you have to be smart at science in sports psychology yet to be motivational. You know and and really you're not like really good like the good coaches you can have like you know like like like exercise physiology professor but but if you have an exercise phys you'll get great science but you may not. You may lack that professional. The Experience experiential base coaching that. That is extremely helpful like and so you have to be just well rounded as a coach I think there are experts out there for sure. Like there are coaches that Um I think experts isn't wrong word for it. Like special lies ation coaches that specialized and they. That's great good for them and they work within in very particular realm of athletes. I think that's appealing to some. But that's I always tried to be able to handle all ranges ages and expand my horizon that way. And that's yeah I agree. That's what makes a well rounded coach. Yeah Yeah I think just. In the more experience France you get with working with people on handling You know just being able to listen and interpret you. Know here's what they're saying but then and you know. Maybe here's what they're doing. That doesn't fall in line. Then you got to like recognize that that's happening and get them on the the path towards their goal and they don't even realize that they're maybe not taking the right steps. Yeah sharing that story with you. Bright before we went went live of the one athlete that he wanted to do something different this weekend and I asked him if he wanted to be better uh-huh and then now that athlete he knows me. He's going to hear this so we'll talk. Yeah Yeah I mean. I think a lot of times is coach. I would have been able to do that as a coach ten years ago. I didn't have that experience. Wouldn't even have been like. Oh yes sure. Change our plan. Yeah and it's like the level of confidence too and it's not I think there's a difference between cockiness confidence because like early on. You can be a coach that it is very cocky and thinks you're set in your ways and that might be applied and work well for some athletes but then you're going to get athletes at that doesn't work well for and you're not going to be able to adopt so then as you get more and more experience and I think all get all coaches are still working on this it's you gain a bigger repertoire. Hard to pull from and you are able to pull on in no the confidence to apply certain scenario. Yeah I just I mean the the more. I coached the better the more I feel like. I'm getting a better handle on just listening to people and helping like just like like I mean you can give them a training plan and all that but I like as soon as I can see that they can follow a plan a stop like emphasizing that and we move onto like like a like a more fundamental. Yeah thing like nutrition recovery or let's really define your your goals and then and get into motivation and and things like that. But as a younger coach I think it would have been like. It was all about the plan. Yeah Yeah Yeah definitely. Yeah that's so cool and so we know one point. I wanted to make in this I wanted to share this little small story like talking talking about the the the coach from Pe. I think one thing that's interesting is about like what we do. Is I have to remind myself of this this all the time. It's basically it's the customer's always right. Because our athletes they pay us in they they pay us to tell for us to tell them what to do but really to help them achieve their goals and that's different than maybe football or basketball in college. where the coach you know? It's either you can. He gets to tell you what to do. There's no money exchanged it's a It's a much different type of coaching relationship and environment in. I think the point I want to make is so when it worked with the national team and got the opportunity to you know coach the team. It's like I thought it would be like this. Eureka moment of like. Oh you know b this heavy handed like do this. Do this do this like you quickly. Realize that's not gonNA work at all. You know you come back to the the way that we coach now quickly. 'cause you gotta get athletes athletes to buy in and understand the real at rationale and A. Maybe I had it wrong on the way that football coaching works but It just seems like it's okay right now we're going to do this and you're going to work on that. And maybe maybe they are following a plan. Maybe the great coaches to coach like that. I think the each like if you make a comparison there. It's almost like a director in cycling compared to being a coach. And then you have to ply the two and I think that'd be it really hard to play the puzzles in the right way like essentially saying well why. I need to make sure this athlete elite on this team is feeling good and they get this scenario to work with the whole team can thrive compared to all right this one athlete. And I'm GonNa make them better. It's GonNa it's like a different different scenario but yeah yeah like individual attention is. What's good teams? Yeah Yeah it's hard. It's hard. I think that it'll be a great job if you're like director coach. Yeah I'd love to do someday but it is a different world especially in cycling too. Because it's like you're you're not coaching those athletes most likely. Unless you know it just happens like if you're the coach of the National Team You might be coaching a couple of athletes on that team at the most but like you're not coaching them. Otherwise otherwise so they have their own coaches that what to do. And then you're telling them what to do out on the road or at a particular race and it's that is even more weird To soccer and football and basketball and all these other team sports were like you're giving them their workouts and telling them what to do on the field right. Yeah different different will wanted to things that I noticed is for the for the athletes. I did coach like so if an athlete goes and does a race and then I see their file come up you know like dive in right away and then when I was driving the car and you basically watched the race unfold from behind it. Hello time I I didn't even need to go. Look at their powerful know. Exactly what happened. You just sat there and watched it and so what was super interesting is you. You get to see the the body language during during the race. And you don't see that powerful you see you can see how effortless effortless that was for them or how much they struggled for the results that was achieved or not and then you know very rarely did I need a power followed. Tell me that directing I didn't really do any powerful analysis. I mean we were tired at the end of the day but in doing other stuff like tasks tasks but but yeah is different from being like a you know when you send an athlete to go race and you're like you want to be there so you go to the powerful and you're like how. How did it go? What what were your tell? Give me her post activity. Come in. It's like it's so cool about being in pro races and having row athletes around me and doing the same races. And I'm sure they probably hate it at times and liked it and others when I'd be like dude. Get Out of the wind or like why. Why are you doing this? Stop doing that or I think. At one point I was in a break in some UCI race and had an athlete in the break with me. And I was like dude. What you doing thank you? You're targeting. Today as a result like get out of here sure they thought that was real annoying but when when I was like for the lack of a better term when I stopped racing in two thousand five one of the reasons I did so because I was a wound up racing against so am I. Ah Yes very got some awkward situation. Like when you're like like just have a Tom's Erbil story like he would get on on the front and take this giant pole and it was so hard that I couldn't really say anytime you should stop pulling but instead when he got tired. Then it's like you attack him. It's like can't can't tack but that was a long time ago and Yeah so we'll tell some other stuff you learned that you want to share with us today. Yeah so that was kind of the I guess the basics on basically what it was to be a coach or what we wanted to touch on on with being coach and then the other thing that we really hard on on this is all like bird's eye view but the we did a lot of developments youth development which is a really big topic right now within sport Fort General and then cycling as well and you know within development teams within USA cycling things like that we. We didn't focus too much on that. But the cool Faris. We had some Nike coaches in the room. and Nike's huge right now is blowing up for those of you don't know it's based on mountain bike league. That's countrywide at this point. I believe in different regions. Yeah California's the biggest. They have Nike when you were in high school now. No way they did. I know sweet Yeah big big deal is really booming. which is really cool? And there's some pretty big coaches coaches. That are coming out of there but anyways touch on basically Other governing bodies are exist out there that have textbooks of basically what youth development should be listed as and then that is not something that exists really within cycling cycling at all as far as I'm aware of as far as we learned at this clinic but essentially they did some interesting using defining of like all right. We'll at what point do you push us into the next phase and then you have to handle all sorts of different varieties such as this maturity puberty growth all sorts of different things. It can be as simple as you have a ten year old and you're are teaching them how to do corners on a bike and then they go through puberty and then all of a sudden everything's out of whack and they're they're literally their body is different and then all of a sudden they can't corner so it's like well when you teach them that And that can be a mental burden to for them so you have to know when they're getting through that because that could be really awkward if they you know when they were ten they were winning National Championships and just crushing everyone. And then all of a sudden they're eighteen and that's not happening happening anymore. Why and just to know when to push an athlete into the next level and that can be trading volume? That could be skills. That could be efforts. I could be all sorts of different things. And that's a hard thing to to know because it's very individualized but at the same time. It can be a little bit car. Part mineralized based often bauge puberty immaturity. Yeah yeah was it going like thought process of like when you switch from emphasizing skills to like training like a training plan versus and then more volume within junior development. Yeah I mean it's the I think that one way that they interestingly defined things was three different ways so essentially learning to train is like the initial phase so very youth so essentially just the concept of doing something consistently to actually better yourself at it. That's pretty basic and that could be the concept of riding three times a week just for fun. It could be something doing coming like a drill. It could be simple as that and then the next one is training to train. So that's actually starting to define what training is so having having maybe some workouts within their starting to introduce that having particular skills have particular practices having just things in general that are starting to apply. Hi to actually training that athletes specifically then the next one is training to compete. And that's when you're getting up into higher rounds of junior athletes uh-huh that's looking at like sixteen fifteen and above and then teaching the athlete to training for a specific event or training training to win not just training to enjoy it or training to train. Its training to winter training to do well for something civic and having goals Sir so and they kind of compare I mean I think this is individualized but because it's kind of textbook they have certain ranges and then it's interesting because it's based off of off the Times purity. I'm in how the bodies progressing males it was like. Learning to train was nine. In twelve years of age and females was more eight to eleven so a little bit younger and then training to train. It's kind of the same thing where it's it's meals. At twelve to sixteen years age and females are eleven to fifteen so again women are a little bit younger and then training to compete males or sixteen to twenty three and females or fifteen to twenty one and up and this is all plus or minus a couple ages of course but it was just interesting to hear that defined that way. uh-huh and working within their reminds me of playing tennis and basketball when I was like fourteen ahead and hit puberty yet. Oh weighed I'd like eighty pounds and you know there were kids that were like six feet tall and they were like the center on the basketball team and they scored all the points and you know they would block your shot but then you way too. You're like seventeen or eighteen. They've stayed the same height than you. You're better bigger than and then you kind of you pass them along the way but the skills you developed along the way kind of really kick in. Yeah I think that's that's the hard part especially within cycling 'cause when a youth hits puberty can make a huge difference in Chile liberty. And you hear the word child but like that's you have the doesn't Quin Simmons have a full beard. He does yeah. I mean that's a new thing that's something a lot of people are talking about is is Younger so like just add first year senior. So that's being into the twenty. Three's he's going to the Pro Tour top level the sport whether or not. That's a good or bad thing. I mean I'm sure there's all sorts of varying opinions on that and I think that is so individualized and you never know And I think teams are more willing to take that risk now. Ah Junior athlete. Yes the concept used to be that essentially you captain athlete within the twenty three threes to keep them from the top end of the sport or that pressure that level. Just give them more time in general to develop because within Sport you might have somebody. That's really good at eighteen. But then give them a couple of years and you twenty. Three's moral launching pad go off of makes a big difference But they're going away from that now for whatever reason that might be. I think most coaches will recognize in the US. The the cyclists Riding in the Tour de France now though they recognize the importance of just that development and Possibly collegiate cycling. I I hope I think. The athletes a lot of junior athletes that have gone pro or gone euro and then wind up not succeeding. I I think they were ready physically. They may have not been ready in life and There's a lot of cases out there. They get to like back twenty three or twenty four and Miss College in their day. They have a setback. And then it's like okay. They they may want to enjoy life a little bit and then so it's not sustainable. So that the U. Twenty three model at one point it was a you twenty. I five model within USA cycling. And so like when Brent Buchwalter was there you know that was you twenty five and they were given seven years to develop from eighteen to twenty five five and the goal. When you were eighteen you take the best of the best it eighteen The junior ranks and then you give him seven years to develop racing in in Europe and then the goal was to get them on a world tour team at the age of twenty five. And now it's like we're going from we're going from like winning nationals in and then you know it's like seventeen to nineteen is like this is that so do I don't know it's it's difficult because you got all sorts of different cultures and their year. What might be listed as what the USA cycling wants to do? Might be contrasting to what a Pro Tour Team I wanna do and then also just like you know what trek wants to do versus what you know Lotto wants to do. It could be very different A lot of the world tour teams have their like developmental squads and yeah. I haven't really paid that much attention. But if those exist maybe with like rob a bank had the famous you twenty the three developmental squad it definitely do. CCC has a pretty prominent one and you know they pulled from. I think one or two of those guys this year and bump them up. Aw there reconsolidate teams So they're out there I don't think trek does so. Yeah yeah but I mean I really. I really hope for Clinton I think he's a different scenario that he is able able to obviously has proven himself within European style racing and because of that I think I really hope he succeeds and I hope he has a good mind for it. You can have the physique of a Hercules. But if you don't have this epic mind for racing that's different so right now. I wish him the best thing. I wish other individuals take out the best. It'll just be interesting to see what progress over time absolutely. I mean it's a hard sport. You you gotTa love it. Yeah expect setbacks. I mean his made. It just needs to enjoy the process speak. I mean it's got to happen. I mean he's that gifted it's just a probably matter of win. Maybe a little patience go go a long way but he gets the race Perry RABEA zone full classics goodwill this year is it's pretty crazy but yeah so that was one of the big topics that we covered on was youth development and that's really tricky one to discuss because the you can have all sorts of different ways of progressing an athlete and progressing youth is really tricky because you have to Really Juggle how the mind is handling things and how far you push them. How quickly you push them? And that's really hard for parents job. It's really hard for coaches to IAGO. Well it's always going to be part of that and there's no way of really strictly defining that would be nice to have a little structure. Yeah I mean we get probably one one caller email per month of a of a parent about training plan for their thirteen year. Old A I always say. And we've we've said this on the podcast before it's go. Join the club of the local club or team or at least find some mentors. Probably no training plans are necessary. Thirteen you just some mentorship and just peers to learn from and you know. That's what's so great. Great about collegiate cycling is you don't even need a really a training plan in collegiates. You just kind of you know you just go under the wing of your upperclassmen and your friends in in your teammates and That's just you know. I think that happens at the junior level too. Yeah they have. Junior cycling is wonderful because they have practices. That is the training plan there. What's more fun than thirty? Kids going out to a park and practice in skills and stuff. It's a group format you have in your automatically apartment team like I was thinking about this the other day. That one of the reasons collegiate such an amazing thing is if you are our brand new bike racer and you've never raised like or let's say you never even trained on a bike and in the US if you try and go and start like are your Kafiristan go do race. You're probably training by yourself. You're probably not on a team. You might have like a friend or another that likes to ride but in collegiate if you're starting out and this is is a lot of the junior leagues you mmediately our team near instantly part of a group here instantly like part of this format where people are trying to help you out and it generally lease very constructive. So that's phenomenal thing in cycling and you have to be in the elite level to even be a part of a true team like that at any other circumstance. Otherwise you're a pain to be a part of a club It's just phenomenal. And that's something I think. Even I took for granted at the time. That's why like you know in four years from the time you're eighteen to twenty twenty two You know you can develop an incredibly amount. That's why we saw like you know. Riders coming in from like junior program as a US freshman at as C. riders on the C team and then four years later they're national champion or a team like stalwarts and I don't like to your point. You wouldn't get that on the group ride the opposite where cycling for whatever reason has very like shun on people were less than you type persona which is related to their own. Yeah exactly that's a bummer. I have seen some good club team formats. One in particular was a master's team that had a junior team norcal and to be on the Masters Team you had to mentor toward the junior team uncle. And so the you're assigned each. There was a one one for one so like ten to ten so ten masters ten juniors in each masters was this guy had a junior rotter and they mentored them along and that was like part of your price of admission for being on the team. I think they did pretty well. They had a good good crew. And that's normal. Yeah Yeah you don't really after collegiate whereas you know you get that junior cycling junior. There's like the Like gazillions cycling programs. And if you WANNA see those inaction just go to the nationals. That's showing where they tend to shine and we have like boulder the junior cycling here in Boulder and I think they have like they're up to two hundred kids and they have practices in all the coaches or like my peers and they raise and they're just falling tears and they're just they're emphasizing skills. And maybe when I I'm not really sure. But maybe when they're seventeen or eighteen. Do they start to emphasize like training training plans. So yeah yeah it was interesting because the outside of just rages ages on general things and I went to progress in athlete and all the different variables that play into youth development. They also covered on like we'll just like thank. You shouldn't train females like you train males. It's also the same with you. They're different they. You shouldn't just apply what you apply apply to bowl grown individual to a youth in this may seem like a dull moment but I think there's that's not necessarily the common practice and that's something that should be changed so it's you know have a particular reason to why you're giving youth a particular workout Make could find. Don't push them too far unless they're ready for it habitat in place evidence-based. Some make sure that it's something that's there for a reason and that's important. Yeah you just caused me to have a flashback till like cross country practice junior year of high school. We didn't know we were doing a workout. But we sure did and we did this. Workout twelve hours. And if we didn't like it was like we're doing like one. Hundred meter sprints and the whole team didn't make it in like I don't know ten seconds. Can we do it again man. We did a lot of sprints but that was we weren't following a plan but we we had got a great workout within like the team practice. Yeah I think that's like what it's it's funny and I think that coaching is changing across the board. At least I hope it is 'cause yeah when I was in track you everyone did the same exact workout and everyone like regardless of what you actually needed to work out or regardless if you you know. We're totally exhausted. You were still going to be doing the exact same workout. which if you think about doing that as cyclist like we gave all of our athletes the exact same workout regardless of their life and regardless of what they have going on? It's like super recipe for disaster and to do that with Youth and team dynamics like it's tricky because it's in that scenario in the track zero particularly. It's a team so it's hard to manipulate that. But like if you if we apply that to our Ashley It's Pretty Bad coaching. Oh yeah so yeah I read. This book is about European football soccer and and as I was reading it I was like well. We've been doing that for twenty years and cycling but what they were doing so in soccer you have the halfbacks and then you have the forward words in the defensive men they figured out like big data that you train the defensive many different than the halfbacks halfbacks they trained endurance and the because they run all they play the whole field whereas forwards and defensive men play half the field so they thought it was like a big deal until I figure out do different levels of endurance training per the specificity of sport. Yeah it's funny. How if you read about other four three alydar sports or training cycling's really progressive in certain ways in suber behind and others and I think all sorts are inserted manner? I don't think there is like a Superior Right Sport within coaching like in football. They I mean they'll spend thirty minutes doing calisthenics but that's like what we should be doing before we. Yeah but we tend to ignore that. Yeah well moving on I mean I understand that. Got To get the certification you had to do go through like a case study and present like what you what you thought and you you worked on. Yes we did with any of these certifications. You do a test. So there's a pretty rigorous test afterwards. That was nice and challenging which was cool and then the the also did a group case study in the clinic itself off and then you did an individual case study on your own away from the group. The group case study was really interesting because it had four or five of us an collectively that resulted in a lot of different knowledge and experience. So then that new apply that to the case study which is always really cool. So a case study in essential essentially as a group assignment where you're giving an example athlete in that example athlete in ars scenario was a aspiring Olympic level mountain biker. Who was also in school and and also had a part time job how I believe she was a female? She was roughly like twenty years old old and wanted to qualify for Not The twenty twenty Olympics but the following so as a four year progression span and the the concept of getting that athlete there which is a very tricky thing. Because it's obviously a lot of play here within being an athlete and being a student student having a job and being tied on money and all of this was kind of predefined for us and for near you as a group are able to make some assumptions ends in but then you create the kind of training outline for them and then you also discuss on like all right how you talk to an athlete about their goals. How do you like realistically realistically if you're a fulltime student part time job on? Oh yeah she also wanted to do the bar so she wanted to be a liar some day so it was. It was a lot. She had a lot of lofty goal. So it was as a coach. You talked to an athlete about that. Do you break raise them up. Do you have an honest chat with them like we do in that. We came to a conclusion on how to do that. And then from there we we actually built out annual train plans we built out an ATP for that scenario athlete and then once that was created in all set set and we had a plan made the exercise of line because otherwise it's kind of a straightforward exercise is. The instructors gave us wrenches so they threw out different scenarios areas. That happen that can throw off athletes training which is like basically what you expect from every athlete because eventually somehow something's going to go wrong they're either gonNA sick or that's an easy one. is they get sick once but it could be something as like for example. These ranches were. She was really tight for cash and coming back from team camp. She chatter car broken into and all of her stuff and in not only. was that money thing. Also Oliver Homework was stolen so she had had not trained for a week to focus on her schoolwork and worker jobs. She could get her money back then so there is that then there was. She had a bad crash got hit by a car and had a concussion otherwise she was okay but she had again another like two week period that she can ride in what to do with that and how to reformat and then because does she was around biker trying to qualify for the Olympics. She had a lot of abroad trips. That she's doing world cups on to how to juggle that with schoolwork and all these other crazy things and you know. Had this been a real athlete of mine. It would have been really interesting athlete. Take on 'cause they like she had so much going on uh-huh definitely would have been like all hands on deck for this athlete. Sure but it was just a collection size to go through with handful of well rounded coaches and just kind have put our heads together and make it happen and then we presented on it and that was nice to you because there are six other groups and to see all how other coaches coach coach in within their scenario. What people do for consultations what people do for setting up a schedule? How they take on certain chats within athletes how to motivate athletes? What people should do we even touched on nutritionists and psychologists and anything under the sun so it was cool good exercise? That's that the the path to success the linear line and then what it looks in the real world that all the setbacks and the squiggly line yeah yeah that's super straightforward. But that was the best part is just being able to adapt. And that's what makes coaching so fine. Because otherwise is it gets kind of monotonous and and this is basically what you design and then this is how you adapted to it. Yeah acid we created. I was essentially the straightforward. ATP where nothing was kind of in the way we were able to format in spring break lake. We rule the format in she wanted to cyclocross nationals or Mattie and other world cups like he was very straightforward targeted certain builds targeted certain periods. When we had that all listed out news very specific and then and then with this particular athlete because she was so time crunch and she had so much going on one of the things we it was actually like added up? How many hours in the day she realistically has to train and then applied that because as an elite athlete trying to qualify for the Olympics? Like your world class. You're supposed post to be so you need to maximize both time for recovery and training and that you know allowed us to approach like we need to have a talk of like maybe you should drop this or maybe you should drop this because this is what's important or or even the talk of like. Is this a realistic goal. Yeah so then. From there the ranch's inches occurred and then we had to adapt the so. Then have those listed on the second. ATP lists the two different ranch in where they occurred and then how we jen trained changed your training to compensate. So you know if you have a bad crash you have a concussion. Mind timed he'll brain time to heal and let's say hypothetically because this was hypothetical trained within a certain duration time then how to ramp up training again in order to make sure that she's still in a good place for her racist to come and that's just you know what What coaching is at the root of it is taking things that occur And finding a solution in in making it happen and it was as collection When you did the exercise to define that The different you mentioned engine. They did it with a group that different people had different approaches. And they're probably you all arrive at the same point. Yeah I mean it was interesting because we all had. I would say pretty differing backgrounds so there was literally a personal trainer. Her is his profession was in our group now is great because that was he covered the strength work which we have very because she was a student that was doing cross nationals for a team. And there's all these other requirements from our team. She had a very strict period of time. She was able to focus on spring training so it wasn't like she could just crank out this ten week period created to do strength training and do nothing else it was. She only had like five weeks so how to maximize that. What to target? Why redoing it so that was great? Then we had two different team coaches so one was On the military side coach Tom One of the military teams teams and then the other one collegiate coach in both of them had a very interesting way of looking at things and how certain things ADEP so like the collegiate coach brought up the fact of like. Hey they're they're in school. Are they hanging out or doing anything social. Because we didn't really you uh-huh factor that into or training. Because we weren't like well. She probably wants like three hours a week to at least hang out with her friends. Say Hi and that was a huge thing to throw into next and that's like one of the things that we added up because realistically like if you don't give an athlete that time it's GonNa fail says really great and then the military individual vigil had more of like well we can probably should approach this from have psych training in there as well so maybe converse with an expert on that front. Don't create a team for that also touches on a nutritionist Because we were throwing out the fact that elite level athlete elite. WHO's young trying to pursue world-class endeavors like? They probably need to have a pretty finite team about her but then it was also like well. She has limited funds. I do do that so yeah it was. It was very neat to have five of us from different backgrounds. Come together and Yeah Yeah. Tend to bring more of the racing side. Those in school gotTa do this race that race. Here's how you set up yours when you take a break. Yeah Yeah I mean you just had the master of nothing jack-of-all-trades Suspi but you can have your own niche within or your area of expertise right. Yeah right yeah. It was neat then. We had. Yeah Pretty Specific Test Music Classic Sue for classic tests from basically. It reminded me of college where the professor tells you what's going to be on the test and then nothing that they told view was actually on the test. My instructors listen to this. I'm totally fine with that. But essentially it was like no. I took a lot of just reminding in my own research research to find the answers and it's also just the classic questions that are Britain poorly so they just trick you into. I'm doing the wrong answer but it was finding it challenged me which is good and then do we did your case study which is also very similar to the one I described within a group session except for on your own one of the other things that I mentioned with the case studies are required to list out studies that we referenced to to pull from and that were from the scientific literature so specific science that was published from different resources and one of the big things that we studied within the clinic itself was how to make sure a study is applicable in verifiable verifiable in within the world science there are very set regiments on whether or not a study is grounded and Biz verifiable and is actually so you know has the right coefficient to be labeled as correct essentially as how they define it and that is difficult within Sport in general. But it's also even more difficult to define to find like a specific like cycling. Because if you think about it as like Okay Ah. You're doing a test on if you're able to do five minutes at four hundred watts how much faster you'll be if he us like a glove with no liner and it's doing that specific. Write test one. You need to find athletes that are able to do four hundred watts for five minutes repeatedly which is not something. That's super super common. So you're probably finding an elite level athlete and then if you were trying to throw that into the mix in their training. Let's even harder. And it's like it's a very niche thing to find that means that the level of numbers within certain specific study body's going to be really low which changes the percentage that comes back. Because if you have a really low percentage of individuals in your study looks like Ah four and then two of them the study effects in two dozen it's fifty percent so that could be either seen as really good or really bad. It's finding the right thing so that's one of the things that we discussed all if you have these studies that have really low by percentages. Like what how do you use that. Because they're going to be labeled oftentimes uh-huh as non coefficients going to be low and then you're not going to be able to have verifiable study but it's still a very useful thing and it can still be applied lied to your particular athletes. You just have to find the right ones and how that could help with a particular individual and you really need to read the fine print and really understand what's going on. Don't just take the punch line and say all right. This is the next big thing right. You need to understand where where those variables came from and what they are and whether or not that actually is going to work with you and you see it everywhere I have. Athletes asked me about studies all times Susa then you have to extrapolate like we'll this is really going to work for you but this is where to interrupt. Is there the expression oftentimes. Tom's that coaches are ahead of the scientists. And really I think that's just because you have years of experience you're drawing upon that experience you've done any experiment on so many athletes and found out what works and what doesn't and then you're introduced this and you're like how could that make a difference. Yeah and that's that's just that's just good clean experience. I think yeah and I think just being open to trying new things but with an Agitated pass compared to being like. Hey heard about this new thing where you do like seven hundred burpee day will automatically be a good sprinter. It's like oh well no but yeah and then you can find good studies and put them to use and see if they work and just be open into that is just another good way coaching. Yeah yeah I know the Vela news guys just did a podcast on interpreting data in using when to use the scientific literature win win not to to use that you know those things in relation to like just like what we're talking you know. How does that work for an athlete and then one of the things that I think they touched on or that we can mention is like a lot of these studies are done on like elite level athletes? And it's like hey you know we're just trying to coach Bob from Pennsylvania you know to to achieve his goals roles and so he may not be an elite level. You know with vio to Max of this and that and You know does the beet juice extract. Yeah you know really matter. I think the beaches was a big thing about ten years ago. You know whether it worked or not because that was like one of the supplements stuff like that that it was like one of the funny things when Max was becoming like a loops cat cat again. Yeah when Max is becoming a big you deal for a period time and had several athletes asked me about it. It's like all right. You know they were talking about how a coach applied it to Tony Martin. Okay cool put yourself in that scenario. Is that realistic. Is that something that is doable. Like are you one. Are you a full time athlete. Like are you able to get into the lab every week to figure this out. Are you able to have someone next to you. You're doing a two intervals in pricking year to get lactate values like you know like you're not so that doesn't apply and it's it's hard within cycling cycling particularly because a lot of those studies are done within a very narrow window and it's interpreting that and then applying it and like I might find a study that works with one of my athletes. And then that's not gonNa work for any of my other athletes but as a cure. I think it's important to be curious. Always be reading and trying to educate yourself because if you're able to to find those things than it's great I think that just further and further athletes. Yeah I mean I have a couple of like alerts you can set up. APPLY PUB MED. Med Sci. And there's a there's another one out there that's new it's called Aga- -demia Edu and you can just plug in keywords. And you get sent an email when there's like a you know a like a paper publish with your keywords. So yeah you know get get to stay on top of things But I think also at the end of the thing I end of the day you do come back to the fundamentals all slann. Lotta Times the science is getting really down into the weeds and While that's good and we as psychosis as we always try to think of the you know the next big thing. What can you buy or do magic boy? I think coaches we try to keep eight people within while you may be like N- earning out on this one thing. You still need to ride more and you know. Focus on your nutrition. Are you getting Eight hours asleep. That's good coach does. And it's not fancy or glamorous a Lotta Times just to bring it back because I'm I'm like old and curmudgeon by now so well. How did they athlete do do? Did you get an outcome. We didn't really get an outcome. I think if we wanted an outcome MacAulay kid has made it up. She went onto him. My My my humble opinion I think she went on and did really awesome and crushed her goals and a couple of years made it to the Olympics. So Nice Nice. That's right. Yeah I always say coaches glass half full type of people try to be well. We have been podcasting for about an hour. That's usually our format and Any final any final thoughts or words of wisdom any other Gems that you learned from the Level One clinic to put you on the spot. I think in general just sometimes all of us get into cycle of what we already know what we were already do and just in life. It's it's worth it to step back and rethink things to always continue. Learning is just a important thing to remember as well. 'cause we kind of get into. I don't know a little bit of a lazy cycle where we're like. Well already know what I'm doing so but it's like no I mean you can always you can always get better and it's hard within in coaching and within cycling as well just because there's not a lot of areas to discuss and learn so finding those are really important whatever it might be an even if that's just like getting around table with a bunch of coaches like it's it makes a big difference and that's one of my resolutions years to keep he pushing that so I guess that's that's my big takeaway. That's a good one. Yeah I always found that the cycling clinics and Seminars that I went to a lot of times. I mean the classrooms sessions. Were great but a lot of times just having lunch with other coaches like where you're like. Wow and then you get to talk about it and share just share with each other. 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