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10 Trivia Questions on Tron

Trivia With Budds

08:49 min | 1 year ago

10 Trivia Questions on Tron

"It's ten trivia questions on a hit eighties movie tron is picked by Jordan Zeilinger and the crew at wreck my podcast. This trivia would buds empanel man and what it be. Welcome to another episode of the Trivia with Buds podcast. I'm your host Ryan Buds. Thanks for checking out. My show comes out every single day. at some point throughout the day sometimes early sometimes a little later like this episode. But if you like Trivia you're in the right place hit subscribe and never miss an episode and if do ever miss a day because I get busy with my daily schedule I always put out two or three the next two or three days so you can always catch up with a bunch of fun. Ten to fifteen minute Trivia Revia quizzes if you are brand new to the show as well. They're seven hundred episodes to go back and check out. I think can go three hundred back on the I tunes. podcast just APP APPLE APP and then there's another like four hundred if you go over to the Libson page and you can always Google search any topic and Trivia with buds to see if I've done it like AAC. US President Trivia. Give it a google. Probably done it once or twice and you can get your fix on whatever kind of Trivia your looking for him if you live in southern California cornea or anywhere in the world. I'd love to host Trivia for you you can play weekly with me at about fourteen places Trivia and Bingo just go to trivia with buds dot com and click on locations locations if you live far from southern California and you want me to come do a show at your big event your big work function your big Bash. Let me know reach out in an email Ryan Buds Jim. L. Dot com or click the contact form on my website. All this stuff is linked in the show notes. So you don't have to memorize it in. Today's episode is all about trying. I've have never seen the first tron movie I've seen parts of the newer one from ten years ago or eight years ago or whenever that was but I did not see the old one and I don't know it just doesn't really interest interest me too much but my friend Jordan is a big fan and he runs a show called wreck. My podcast and you should go check it out comes out. Every week I believe and Jordan and his friends they do these roundtable discussions about all kinds of nostalgia and things from the eighties and nineties and two thousands. So if you like listening to stuff like that go back and check cout tons of episodes from wreck my podcast and that'll be linked in the show notes as well stick around for the end of the episode. We do a question of the day or you have a chance to win a cool prize. I mail to you in the snail mail. You could also hear Trivia team name of the day and the answer yesterday's question of the day all right. We're going to jump into today's quiz on entre. Ten questions that I found a website called FUN TRIVIA DOT COM. Here we go all right here we go. These are all all multiple choice questions on Tron wash number one which game is played in the beginning of the movie. Is it Pacman light cycles light. Toss or Mario question number one. What game is played at the beginning of the movie? Pacman light cycles light. Toss or Mario question number two. Who is the character that we see for the first time when the on named man is playing the game question number two? Who is the character that we see for the first time when the unnamed man is playing the game is that Yori Tron Commanders Sark or Flynn question number three? Who is the character who gets? It's beamed into the system by the M. C. P.. Is that Allan Ed Dillinger Laura or Kevin Flynn question number three question number three number four on your list. What is the name of the company that Dillinger is the senior executive of is it Ford and calm Microsoft or GM Ford income Microsoft or GM? Question Number Five. Why is it that Flynn wants to hack into the mainframe of the company is it to look cool to get proof that his games were stolen so he can get his job back or for the heck of it question number six? What is the name of the program that Flynn uses to try and hack? The system is called Tron Clue C. L. U.. Ram Or. Yori those choices. Again Tron Clue Ram or Yori question number seven. Who is it who helps Tron and Flynn get to the MCP? Is it ramp. no-one Cirque or your Ram no-one Sark or Yori question number eight. What does M. C. P. Stand for is it main computer part Master Control Roll Program most cunning part or most cool program number eight? MCP WHAT DOES IT stand for question nine. What are these? Circular objects that all programs will be issued. Is that a Frisbee an ID disk a ball. We're a pie question number nine. What are the circular objects that programs will be issued? Is it Frisbee. Id disc ball or pie question. Ten how does tron defeat the MCP. He Defeats Commander Sark. He doesn't defeat the MCP he throws himself into the beam where he throws his disk into the core of the MCP. Which one of those choices does he do? Those are all your questions for today's Tron Ron Quiz ten questions in a row will be right back in just a sound effect with the answers. All right here. The answers to Tron Trivia hopefully Jordan and and the crew wreck my podcast nailed this episode number one. A witch game is played at the beginning of the movie. The answer was light cycles light cycles question number two who who is the character that we see for the first time when the unnamed man is playing the game. That would commander Sark Commander Sark number. Three who is the character who gets beamed into the system by the MCP. Kevin Flynn Kevin. Flynn number four. What is the name of the company that Ed Dillinger is? The senior executive of it is called n Com the N.. COM questionable five. Why is it that Flynn wants to hack into the mainframe of the company to get proof that his games were stolen the second choice there number six? What is the name of the program that Flynn uses to try and hack the system that would be clue C. L. U. One of my favorite board games? That's my only insight on this whole episode. I don't know what they're talking about number Zevon. Who is it? Who Helps Tron and Flynn get to the MCP? Yori Yori number eight. WHAT DOES MCP stand for Master Control Program MCP Master Control Program number nine? What is the circular object that all programs will be issued? ID DISC ID disc number ten. How does tron defeat the MCP he throws? This is desk into the core of the EP. Throws the disc in the core. Those your ten questions and answers. I hope you had fun playing along with this Disney themed episode so on Tron. You can find wreck my podcast at wreck my podcast dot com and give it a listen if you like my show pop culture nostalgia you will dig it. Que Question today time and that's brought to you by funky monkey designs of Sandy Miss California. What's the name of a garlic and olive oil sauce from either France or Spain? Tweet me your answer. Ryan buds or email. Well Ryan Buds at gmail.com to be eligible for prize yesterday's question. That answer was Michael Bloomberg the new mayor of NYC after Giuliani and your trivia team. Name of today. Hey is chew back that thing up. Chew back that thing up Nice Star Wars Juvenile Combo team name there reach funky monkey designs at FM designs translink DOT COM and. Check out my friend Randy. TATUM's new horror. Themed Strategy Game called Bloody Mass at facebook dot com slash bloody mass the game. Thanks for listening to the show. Thanks you're telling a friend about the show and we'll see you tomorrow for more Trivia with butts cheers

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The King of Fighters

Now Playing - The Movie Review Podcast

1:29:43 hr | 1 year ago

The King of Fighters

"Welcome to now. Playing review of the King of fighters. Welcome two thousand. National Tolkien's Serena Mako. The old part of now playing video game movie review series now the Real Games hosted by. Arnie you got beat up a lot as a kid now justin and it's no secret. He likes to show off oil and Stewart. We have a little party here. His podcast nicotine detailed watts boilers and harsh language. With barbaric listener discretion is advised. Fund has just begun today. We're discussing the king of fighters starring. Sean Ferris Maggie q really unle- Ray Park. David Leash directed by Gordon Chan. This is the king podcasters Arnie Stewart. And this is Justin and I recognized one of those names in there. Yeah David Leach Director of John witkin stunt man extraordinaire. I don't think they were looking for actors for this remember even George Lucas. Who was fine with whatever Jake Lloyd did looked at Ray? Parker was like yeah. We're going to change that voice actor. Welcome back to the now playing or cade has been a hot minute since we were running around with sonic. I always wanted to know guys. I don't think we've covered one yet. What the Hell is a neo? Geo and did you ever know anyone that had one? I never knew anyone who had won the same way. I didn't know anyone who drove a Bentley. I remember when these came out. It was around the time of the Sega Genesis. I talked about it with my friends. I can't remember if you were one of them. But I remember seeing ads and I was reading gaming magazines neo. Geo The six hundred dollar home console. Now this is one of the genesis was out for one hundred Ninety Neo. Geo came out for six hundred dollars and each game for the neo. Geo was two hundred to two hundred fifty dollars premium thing and yet what it boasted was something that was still unattainable even by. Sixteen bit standards. You would actually have a coin op at home. Promised to be as good or better than what you put your quarter into well. It was as good as because it literally was the same machine. Here's what happened is the neo. Geo is actually an arcade cabinet if you were running arcade and you wanted to change games. Sometimes you'd have to yourself ripped out the guts of it and you know because it's the same monitor and often the same joysticks but you'd have to replace all these boards and all the cows and things so S. K. Is the name of the company. And I'm not going to butcher the Japanese name but it stands for but we'll just call him S N Que. They decided they could build a better arcade cabinet and they built the Neo Geo Arcade Cabinet which they sold two pizza places. And what have you and now if you wanted to change games all you have to do is open the back and change cartridges and you could have four or six cartridges. In at a time depending which model you got and they realized the hardware for this only costing them few hundred dollars or so so they realized they could actually sell that exact hardware to the home market and if you played and they put Nice joysticks I mean when with the six hundred dollars. You got to sturdy ass arcade style joysticks and things and you were playing literally the exact same code the same graphics the same everything on a neo. Geo As you were in the arcade I mean to put it in perspective. The Sega Genesis which we've talked on and on about about how impressed we were when we saw at any one time could have on the screen sixty four colors and eighty sprites are moving objects the NEO. Geo At one time could show forty one hundred callers have three hundred eighty sprites. Yeah it sounds impressive but in the end like I didn't know any of the Games for it it was like they needed something to pull me in because I was probably crazy enough. You know I had a part time job. At that point I was pulling in some showbiz pizza money. I probably if there was something on the level of a sonic that this system had I probably would have saved up for five weeks and bought a neo Geo Z. That's the thing I felt. They lacked is a killer APP. I looked up S. N. K. What Games did they make? You know before Neo Geo because they were founded in the eighties. There's a few I did play. There was one called Van Guard. If you guys remember vanguard it was a side scrolling spaceship we could shoot down backwards forwards. Yup there was an Atari version of it. Also I vaguely remember that and then there was an game but it was an arcade. I called Hikari warriors which was like the first. Shoot them game to put you in a jungle and give you real world weapons instead of like a space thing and it was coming out right around the time of Rambo. First blood part two so it felt like you were shooting up. Vietnamese and people were into that in the eighties. Okay so living out my Vietnam War post traumatic stress disorder the okay. I has appealed to someone not me at that time. But Yeah Neo. Geo here's what shocked the hell out of me. The arcades came out in nineteen eighty nine and when they started with the whole model they actually do go a hotel and they had like video games and a system there. It was trying to entice you to bring your kids there and put them in front of the TV vaguely. I know that that was it. Never worked for me but yes yeah I remember hotels that had the like controller that sat on top the TV there was no box like that was all part of the system and you could play games on a channel. Yeah the NEO. Geo was intended to be rented to hotels. It was supposed to be a rental machine or a professional entertainment at that price. But what happened is hard core. Gamers were really into this and it is a luxury item. It was a niche thing. It's kind of like I would equate it to a LEICA CAMERA. If you don't know what a like a camera is you're like well. How does that compare to my canon or Nikon is like well you can have a candidate or an icon or you can spend at a zero to that and by the like. And that's kind of where the NEO GEO was. It continued to sell on the market for about a decade and continued to put out games. Eventually they came out with the neo. Geo CD this was around the time of the playstation one. It's the exact same neo geo but now they could sell you the games for forty dollars because literally the cartridges for the first neo geo where the size of VHS tape and had one hundred fifty dollars of hardware in each cartridge okay. Yeah we don't want to pay for that. All right yeah. I'm kind of waiting for NEO GEO to make a comeback nowadays because I mean go to any Walmart and you can see. There's like this. Resurgence of buying mini arcade cabinets to build them put together at home. They actually had one of those you know like the NPS classic things they put out a neo Geo classic that had a whole bunch of the games and you know because now you can run the Neo. Geo So easily. I have a ton of NEO GEO games on my raspberry Pi and that's a very low powered computer by today's standards and it has the perfect graphics the perfect controls but it actually didn't sell well because neo geo doesn't have the name recognition which is why when. Stewart said we missed a video game movie called the King of fighters. I'd never heard of the game I'd never heard of the movie and it's simply not the American one again I think. King of fighters is a fighting games with the NEO. Geo itself is to consoles if you were really into fighting games. This was considered one of the most groundbreaking. It did things than the street. Fighters would rip off like having tag team fights and things and fighting. Gamers love it. But when they put out they did port them to the Super Nintendo and the genesis. They'd sell fifty thousand copies. Where a street fighter? Two millions of copies on each platform. So it is just a niche thing. And why do you make a movie that I do not know? Yeah that's a really interesting question but it's interesting you mentioned streetfighter. I didn't play this game. You can tell me if there's anything different about it than all the other fighting games you and I have played Arne I. Is there something unique about the control or the characters or the world yes kind of okay? Here's what I would say. As I played the first one I had to go out remember. I got the veto is living La Vida Loca. Well I could only find this game unless I want to buy NEO GEO system. Which was the portable one that took little CD discs and I had to put it in. I was able to get a really cheap one on Ebay. And it had the S. N. K. Arcade Classics Collection. What I didn't realize is all of these games. Were on my raspberry Pi under t for the money. You didn't need to this. Sounds like neo? Geo Bernie while you're playing a C note cigar. Well at least now I have you. Md player so it can buy all my movies again on mini CD. But I played the hell out of the first game that I played fourteen a lot which just came out for the playstation four. They're still making these games. Yeah there's over fourteen games. This first one came out in ninety four. It's that's how it's no. It really started in nineteen ninety-one are maybe even before that I did a little research on the characters because I was tasked with watching some of the anime and some of the other peripheral stuff Terry Bogarde. One of the characters in this movie goes all the way back to street fighter in nineteen eighty-seven he was developed for that game and then they didn't use him and the people that developed it wit and left. Capcom went to S K and said. Let's give Terry his own game. Fatal Fury Yeah. This is and it wasn't like he was ever a street fighter character. It was a character model. It was a white guy in a leather coat. Basically and they're like let's make a white guy in that red leather coat but give them a game. Fatal Fury King of fighters was the nine hundred ninety one and S N Que. Really trying to be like street fighter. Two is huge fighting games huge. Let's get into that They call it. Fatal Fury King of fighters and the people that were like King of fighters. That's a really good sub time. We need to make that a game at some point. Then in nineteen ninety four the king of fighters and they call the King of fighters ninety four and it was almost like a super smash brothers because they brought in characters from fatal fury and they brought in characters from something called Samurai showdown which was another fighting game of theirs. That really look anime. And that they had a game called Artif- they brought in characters from all these other games plus they had original characters to this game as well so it was kind of like an avengers team up again. If you know NEO GEO game which nobody in this country really did but it's probably a big deal. If you love Terry Bogarde to see him finally make it to king a vital four. I guess it something at that time. Those street fighter two when it came out it had eight playable characters and then a couple bosses. They came out with turbo edition. You could play as the bosses and they add a few characters when this came out. Here's the things that makes it unique. It started with twenty four characters but they were teams of three. And so you pick your team as so I'd play Brazil or I'd play Japan or the United States. Yeah case in point in fatal fury the first team it was Terry Bogarde. His brother then some third. We all try to get vengeance on their father. Being dead which is a story lying that actually will get co opted by some of the king of fighters anime stuff they will keep that in continuity but king of fighters. I'm just GONNA put it out there. Yes like street fighter. Two if you win there are these little cut scenes with sentences and if you beat the game there's a couple of lines but these are not plot driven games. This is not like Tekken where I felt like. It was a fighting game but also an adventure game that had a big plot. This is very much like street. Fighter mortal combat. Where you gotTa Really Suss out a plot though for what I understand. There are bare bones here from this movie. In that King of fighters ninety four there was the big boss was ruge L- and he apparently liked to turn fighters into statues and one of the other teams team Japan. Who's led by Kyo? Goose Unagi so there is some connection. Here it gets as they went along. It's really an adaptation of the first three or four game yet well King of fighters ninety four stood alone with King of fighters ninety five ninety six ninety seven. They did a trilogy again. Really really loose like nobody gave a shit about the story but they wrote one anyway and this movie the thing you're talking about with the statues and things is actually King Fighters. Ninety six so this movie most closely goes to King of fighters ninety six. But I'll tell you right now. There were no bluetooth headsets. No parallel dimensions. Well they gotTA update it. I mean you can't just be living in nineteen ninety six two thousand ten when they decide to make this but when I play these games what made it. Unique was the team play and that in every other game I've ever played Tekken Street. Fighter mortal combat. You have two guys and they're fighting and its best two out of three right and every time you fight one person gets knocked down you start over and you have restored health. Every once King of fighters ninety four you fight as you have teams of three and one person from each team goes in and fights and the winner continues on but if you beat the hell out of them they still lose some health they may regenerate some depending on which game you play but if you get close to winning then you're next cares are can come in and just smack them and knock down and then you move onto the next one. I'd never seen a game. That persisted your damage from fight to fight and that you went three in a row starting with King of fighters ninety five and they put these out like fucking. Ea sports gains. There was one every year. Yes King of fighters ninety six ninety seven ninety eight ninety nine two thousand and a playing all of these and I'm like why don't the graphics get any better. Because they're all of the exact same neo geo hardware fully. It's cool to hear that. There was some innovative gameplay ideas there and some features that you couldn't find in other fighting games of the era but I have to say from a style standpoint of these games it very much just had a quick breeze. Looks like a knockoff streetfighter. Oh absolutely the style the Pixel Latian. The side to side fighting the score overlays. It's all very much streetfighter. Looking the other thing it did was only at four buttons. I've never played a where it's actually like. Hit these two buttons at the same time to do a block and hit these other two buttons at the same time to do a throw. It actually was really difficult to use a game pad to play because I used one thumb. Tips mashing my whole thumb against buttons. With not fun. I think this really demanded one of those arcade joysticks with the you know you have played with two hands buttons. Yeah just another two thousand dollars. It'd probably give you one by the way the NEO. Geo In today's dollars was about nineteen hundred fifty. So you're not that far off but I love some of the characters in this. That's the thing about all these Games is. They're fighting whatever. These games were fucking hard. Though until I got to like the later ones that were developed for the xbox and for the playstation these things were difficult. I could not win very many fights. I I had to play probably four times before I could get most of the way through king of fighters one and I got to know the characters and I was hoping to God. Some of them were in here. Unfortunately only one was one of my favorites. Was My the character that. Meg accused playing in the movie. Yes who IMDB TRIVIA SO helpful. Maggie Q has a cup breast according to the IMDB Trivia whereas the my I played Headey Double F Cup breasts and exaggerated. Jiggle for every single. Gabe it was so outrageous that it was amusing to me. You've now explained their entire sales like that's why they paid for it because back in the nineties that would've been relatively novel till they got the Tomb Raider. These games were before Laura Croft so all right you want some TNA in your game. This was a pioneer of that dead or alive also was doing and if you recall around ninety six again this is before all of that and then my team was Korea and there were two guys on there. I read online. They were ex criminals. One was named Chang. Who is this giant guy who had a big ball and chain? Just if you WANNA think marvel remember the ball and chain that came with the wrecking crew. Oh yeah he fights with one of those and I just smash people with this big metal ball and that was fun. There was a guy named Troy. I loved him from the beginning. He was a tiny Freddy Kruger. I mean he had a striped sweater and a fedora but he was a little person and he worked to gloves and it was a green sweater instead of red would two-tone green instead of red and green to a lawsuit. I've got some good news for you. Arnie these people are in the animated movie. We're not covering and then there was one named Lucky Glauber who the USA team I mean. Everything was so stereotypical. I do not know how my ended up on the UK team. Because she was a Chun Li rip off through and through. Yeah but she's stems all the way back to fatal fury two so. I think she was tied to Terry Bogart respect. But the American team was all-sports players and lucky glauber was a basketball player. Who was kind of like Magic Johnson? And you could like throw basketballs at people and bounce it around then you're his teammates. There was a boxer of course and a football player was fighting in full pads. I was really hoping that some of these wacky ass characters. We're going to show up in this movie. Unfortunately no I didn't get anything that I liked about the game out of the King of Fighters Twenty ten movie. Yeah so why do this? In twenty ten if the heyday was a decade before I mean yes they were still putting out less sporadically around this time. They were putting out a game. They did put out an anime years before tied to a game came with some of the. I guess they were discs. By that point it was called King of fighters another day. It's only four episodes long. It didn't make any sense to me other than the fact that it has a lot of characters running around and someone setting the city on fire but it was seen as part of the promotion. It's one thing to say. Yeah we'll whip up twenty five minutes of animated computer graphics to try and sell this game. Which again comes with a hefty price? It's another thing to say. Yeah let's make a live action feature that. I can't think they were going to think it was going to play in America right like why would they think that this would catch on. It's an English and yet I have to believe a large part of the fan base is in Asia and they knew that I mean by keeping the names all Asian and the and the main characters they really were playing to the home crowd and not trying to do too much outreach. I think honestly the whole reason why this might have happened. Was that neo. Geo got it. Standar- up that Capcom had convinced Fox to make another street fighter. Movie Charnley was coming out when this got green lit and so they were like all right. We're GONNA throw down. We gotta be at least as good. As legend of Chun Li Essen K. didn't really exist by the time this movie came around. They declared bankruptcy and three. The game changed hands and was owned by a couple of different companies. That's when they were like okay. We're not going to do annual releases because we're going to new hardware now. We're not just changing the same game with new characters and new moves and we're going to spend time actually crafting games and making them three D. That's the one thing the NEO. Geo could never do was three d. The playstation one is what killed the neo Geo people suddenly like three d worlds like tomb raider and this was forever going to be side scrolling and so they moved it out of there. I have no idea why they made this. This is a Japanese property in an American film made in Canada made in Canada. That's what I was about to say like. Are you telling me they made this movie with knowledge it was going to be on something more than just. Cbc Sunday afternoon yeah. I thought that they had enough here. You know with direct to video and video on demand. I think they thought they could make some coin here in America. There's obviously somebody and it's because of the Games do get released here but they're director. Gordon Chan is a fairly respectable Hong Kong director. He made up film. That won the best picture in Hong Kong Year. Bee's COPS I don't know it. He did a couple of Jackie. Chan movies the medallion. I don't know it. He wrote hard boiled the John Woo movie. I didn't see it but he has some clout and I think they thought that this was going to be a hit by Hong Kong movie standards. I like hardboiled. I got really excited when I looked up this director. I thought we'd see him again. I'm like Oh he made a movie of God of war. There is a god of war movie. Turns out it's a totally different movie. Not Related to the God of War Video Games but yeah. I saw he was a Hong Kong director. And you never know. Sometimes these people can just be fans of a property again. This was huge in Asia and the cast ear. We'll talk about it as we get into it but there are people. I've seen before Maggie q took over to Kito at some point in that series their game. Changing Nikitas right like she was a blonde chick at the beginning when she became Mega Q. But she was in the fourth die. Hard Movie Sean. Various was in a movie. That was ahead. I've never heard of called. Never Back Down Karate Film. That made apparently twenty five million dollars in the states. I've never heard of him or it. He was the one actor in this whole thing that I'm like. Who is this person? I don't I mean I think I've seen a couple of things that his name was on. But I do not know Sean Ferris at all there have been a reason to believe in two thousand eight with his movie hitting that way he could be the martial arts Tom Cruise. You'd want to get him for a project like this before. He asked too much of course Greek as here from so we love this gas. It sounds like it could be good bad or so bad. It's good could follow any different way. Arnie let's find out. Yeah I'm just going to say right now. I'm very upset. There's no fat guy with wrecking crew ball that grabs his belly and laughs and no tiny Freddy. Krueger's if there was a there was a little person. Freddie Krueger in here speaking Korean instant recommend just someone make that movie. Please insert shot really it just before you get into telling us about the movie. Arnie a little game. I like to play with. These movies is guest. How many production companies are going to have logos before the credits eight? That's not too far off. I counted six unique production company logos before we got into the credits. Yeah LADDA HANDS. Well in this movie. Maggie q plays by a martial artist. Who's recently entered the king of fighters tournament of fighting competition? That takes place in an alternate dimension where women wear sexy clothes and men dressed like their pimps the fighters get to this dimension via Bluetooth ear buds but my is actually an undercover CIA operative investigating this fight club for reasons that I do not know undercover. She started dating. Yori Yami played by Willian Lee. Who is a former champion of the king of fighters and he takes my to museum exhibition where three artifacts are on display a necklace a sword and a mirror? I don't think that'd museum I mean it is but I think that's the opening ceremony. This is like how they're kicking off the tournament throughout my local performing arts centers. Where they're at the necklace in the Mirror are somehow what allows entry into the Parallel Dimension Using Bluetooth? I even they are like we don't understand our scientists. They're smart but when combined with the sword all three artifacts can call a mythical entity called the erosion. Is this making sense to anybody? Enjoying Watch lodging. You've flounder it's making me. Want to order Sushi Rotea role tempera. The museum exhibit is interrupted by Ruge. L- Bernstein played by Ray Park. Ruge lst eight that name ruble steals the artifacts wanting to awaken the Iraqi and take over both the fighting Rome and earth but the Saudi stole was a fake. So the sword is this. Film's macguffin my investigates rule and is taken to a hospital to see. Sassou Kasangati. Who has the real sword say? Sue is non responsive but my meets his son. Keogh played by Sean Farris. Who's completely unaware of his family's ties to the magical fighting championship remember. This is supposed to be about fighting. Oh Yeah Kayo believes wriggle. Cayo believes ruge caused his father's deterioration so he aids my Yori in pursuing ruble Mayes double-identity as a CIA agent is revealed that Yori but he still decides to help. Stop Rule The final confrontation is the fighting dimension merges with earth and the three fighters go to confront ruble. There's some strife when keough discovers it was Yori who disabled his father when you Ori- merged with the Iraqi years before and the two fought but with me as help. They banished the erode she from Yori at the three again fight through Google. It comes down to Keough and ruge L- Keough seems defeated until he remembers his father's words of wisdom about being like water and then keough becomes all powerful summons the sword from thin air and uses it to burn rule to death with Google gone two dimensions recede and Kayo decides to continue the King of fighters tournaments as credits roll. Yeah as we start here. It helps to understand that. My is some kind of desirable. Cyber Babes that she was a reason why people played so that they could watch. Her Jiggle explains why. She's so heavily featured in this movie because most of the anime most of the storylines such as they were. We're all about the guys it's always about Terry and Keough Yori. Everyone else was. Just sort of supporting. Did either of you guys ever see the episode of Black Mirror where two dudes go into a virtual video game similar this and it's a fighting game? And so when they get in there they pick their characters and we go into their perspective in the game. We can see. Oh one of them's a beautiful buxom girl. Choon Lee and another one's a big burly fighter guy and they fight a little bit and then they make an out and hugging and doing it and then they get addicted to doing it in the virtual world together shades of that. Yeah it was a going. Yeah it was great episode. I was hoping this movie kind of went that way. But we don't get too much of what's going on. In the virtual world or very much explanation of how that's even happening other than a Bluetooth with some holographic floaty thing on the end. Yeah what we get Maggie q coming out of the shower. And that's all that they had there and it really takes a while to understand what's happened like something's dripping and all of a sudden they're in a walk in freezer. I did have to watch the scene three times to understand that there is a magical device that later we will learn is based on ancient artifact mystical powers that transports you to a realm. Where does she not have these powers in the every day like it would help me to know that like maybe she was in a wheelchair or like a leg in a cast or something like that but when she goes to this dimension? I think you're enhanced ways that you're not in the real world I think the fighting skills exist in the real world. This isn't like Avatar where you know if you were disabled you could be abled in the fighting realm but I don't think you could shoot fire from swords in the real world but I'm not positive of that you might be able to the only distinction. The movie draws is a change of outfits though for Mode Visual perspective. Like though I think would make you know we're in a virtual world is like Stewart. Said you're in a weird meat locker and she's wearing like dominatrix leather outfit now garters garters are the key to this parallel dimension. Yeah the more impractical the outfit. The better apparently and it's reflected in the fighting itself is definitely one of those movies that soon as you get to the opening credits we see. There's opening here. You know you can turn it off. It's like Oh good I'm good. He's bad there's no reason to watch any more of this all right. I also watched this opening three times mainly because I fell asleep twice while watching this movie. Thank early careers. Eighty five minute just kept coming back and starting over but one thing that really bothers me is. I think it's supposed to be a freeze frame. Where MAGIC USE? My like does a double shove pushes with two hands. And then the cameras like going around her similar to Lavar Ball House of the dead. Remember that was that one cool shot and it was actually a cool shot. They had but then they overdid it here. It looks like they're trying to do that. But Maggie huge just looked so damn bored because this isn't a freeze frame matrix effect. This is her standing as still as possible. Not Blinking while they move the camera around her does not look cool at all. I actually thought. Did He hypnotize her? Is that why? She's standing there with a blank. Connor base yeah. The finding is really unimpressive from people that we know can fight like everyone here has bonafides. She's on a martial art. Show Ray Park. We know his work as a stuntman. Sean fairest is an up and coming fighter. No one at all will deliver a credible punch. Who's the dude in the PIMCO at this beginning? Well his name is Sam and we'll find out later. He's just a wannabe fighter. He is actually working the door of the opening ceremonies. He's the body guard slash door man and I guess. He figured he could maybe advance his station in life if he beats one of these perspective. King of fighter. Oh that was the same guy yes. I didn't get that either. Just don't feel bad and I saw that scene three times. This movie suffers a little bit from a bunch of Generic White Dude Syndrome though. Also give that right confusingly with non white names but yes. It is a whole lot of Sammy looking people and say me kind of VIBE. Like the strange thing is it's two thousand ten but it might as well be nine hundred ninety five because the techno is going the CGI EFFECTS. Look no better than they would've and Super Mario Brothers. I'm trying to figure out what the hell this ball of. Cgi snake is in the fight. She knocks down Mr for coat and this ball of snakes appears above him. It's the Rachi. It takes me forever to find out that that's the Iraqi but the araceae needs special tools to summon right show up unclear. Unclear what its role is in the Games even when I look at the anime and all of that it's different levels. We're to understand that overseeing all of this is a mystical power that goes all the way back to the time of dragons. I think that's the main thing to get is that they have dragon. Power which by the way mortal combat right like it have a dragon mascot it just kind of looks like the mortal combat icon floating around. Reminding you not even subliminally that you wish you were watching. World Combat. And that wasn't in any of the Games I played. I've probably spent forty fifty hours. Playing King of fighter games at no point. Did a ball of snakes show up that I could grab for superpower okay. I didn't know that see. It's the kind of thing you insert only because it's going to be recognizable. The fact that they did. This is mystifying. Maybe there is a part of the game because they were hard and so I didn't get that far in all of them if it is somebody please let me know. I don't claim to be an expert in these games but I would have felt better about the ball of snakes if I knew it from the Games and the storyline about the ancient dragon. Kind of goes back to that first trilogy of Games. But it wasn't an Agent Dragon. It was ancient elemental and one of the elemental was banished and came back and wanted to take over the king of fighters thing. It's that may be a translation thing because it definitely from what I read. It was based on a Rachi which is part of Japanese Shinto religion so there is a precedent for talking about an eight headed serpent and I think they were trying to give it some kind of Shinto cred in the game I saw the cut scene. It's a guy with an eight headed serpent tattooed on his chest and guy all right so they decided to go mystical and they decided not to spend very much money on the mystical or the lighting. Really yes so you can go one or two ways year. It's either crazy stupid or just like man. This thing is got no energy. And why would anyone watch? I'm getting a lot more of the ladder if I were laughing if this were felt like. Oh my God. This is so absurd. You'd WANNA watching. No this very much has the vibe of something that feels like you know one of those old again. Nineties shows highlander. I just kept thinking about highlander. I was thinking more about the TNT stuff specifically mortal combat the series which had CGI and things but really poorly done. And just the back. Lots where this was filmed the giant warehouses where they couldn't be bothered to put up plaster. The museum has the same bare cement walls as the CIA station later on. I mean they're not even trying to hide set reuse here. No they'll even say that everything here they're like why does it smell? It's a fish cannery and I think that that was an ad Lib Dialogue. I think that's exactly what they did. They had a week and a fish cannery and these people were in Canada and said Okay and so here we are pretending that this about some kind of video game but really. It's about keeping your dignity. Well you would think with all these limitations. These production imitations that we just talked about. You would think okay great. We know we don't have a lot of production value here. Let's really sell the fighting? Let's just jump into action and make this an action packed wall to wall fighting movie. Sorry we've got about forty five minutes of going back and forth to a hospital and a museum and headquarters and Falling Asleep in our car on shots at last way too long. What am I watching here is I was actually excited? Because pre credits. We had a fight and that was something. I didn't like that dead or alive movie. We reviewed but one thing it did do right was had fights almost every single scene and so that we opened with this fight. I'm like okay. We're just going to have a fighting movie. I'm very cool with that and yet it was this first half hour that I does twice and then even the time I stayed awake. I cannot follow some of the logic of all right. No I'm not going to use the word logic. I can't follow some of the plot things that happen here. I don't know why Maggie Q is a CIA agent undercover at this fighting ring. I don't know why David. Leach is operatives in a car outside wishing he was in Desert Storm. Yeah so David Leach who we know again. Action Bonafides will have directed deadpool two an atomic blonde. And Shaw and Hobbs and all of that stuff. He's here in front of the camera and find out exactly why you'll never see him in front of the. Reagan got a terrible list. He's got no acting presence and you know what he's not even really that good at fighting so yes. He's completely terrible in this film but he is playing the most popular character. This is Terry Bogarde and this is the character that goes all the way back to say. Don't fear it if it's the most popular character. He has nothing in the game to make him stand out at all because I played him and I was like man. I wanted to go back playing Freddie Krueger. These kind of red hat. He's GonNa make America great again. Yeah I do appreciate the bit of knowledge that you bring Stuart because like there's a couple scenes where they make a big deal about him wearing that fest coat and the hat and I'm like that has to mean something from somewhere so at least there are some Thai. Yeah he throws it in. Its blows up things. It has a magic red hat. The same way the basketball can blow up and things but I gotta take issue with something you said. You said that David Leach isn't even that good of a fighter in front of the camera. No I I believe he is. He was one of the stunt men in the Matrix films. He was Keanu stunt double for a lot of those fights. That's how they knew him. That's how they brought him to John. Wick and Ray. Park is a Goddamn Ninja. I've seen this man in person. He warms up a little bit and then does backflips on demand just to entertain people paying him. Twenty Bucks for an autograph you say they have Bona Fides. These people can fight. Why Why is Gordon Chan? Doing them so dirty. The bike favorite punch line of the whole movie is okay so everyone is like circling around holding a glass of wine and like observing these really tacky artifacts is like a sword a mirror and a necklace. I swear to God I thought the necklace they do. A close up the echoed Intel. It was on a neck. I thought it was a chain mail G. String would have been more fun but anyway like Rape Parks GonNa make his move and he's GonNa try and steal it and all that and what does this room of fighter say called nine one one. We're not gonNA take on this guy see. I don't think these are fighters. One of the people. There is running the tournament but I think the only fighter in this entire room is I and of course her boyfriend Yori but he's already won the King of Fighters Championship and says he's retired. I believe everyone here. Either fights in the tournament or sponsors they fighter in the tournament so everyone would have a connection to someone better than whoever's at the end of nine one one gets that phone call save us are cheap ass necklace in mere being stolen by Ray Park. One thing they do right is make ray park look imposing here. Because he's not exceptionally tall. If you see the phantom menace when you really see Darth Maul standing next to OBI Wan especially next to Liam Neeson whose of practical giant. He just is not the tallest for now. He's Taller Than Maggie Q. He's not the tallest person. And then if he's such a great fighter. I love his first fight. Is he shoots a guy with a gun and that wasn't even clear. I thought he blew him up. How much blood hit that window? I had to watch that scene twice what happened there. Did somebody just explode? Yeah and again. We know that this director has directed martial arts movies before we know that. Park as you say on demand can do more impressive things for like a straight busker. That any new moment in this film is it Vancouver Vancouver. Just have the kind of laws that say. We can't have any action because if you go to Hong Kong. You don't have to be insured. You can just literally dangle your life off a cliff and they'll let you shoot that but here I feel like the restrictions are so heavy if anyone looks like they might even get a boo boo shut down production for three days and we'll talk it out at the fish cannery. There's one moment when somebody grabs one of those ropes like took crowd control ropes and uses it like a whip a stanchion. Yeah Okay thank you. I did not know what those were called and grabs Ray Park. I just hate his name. Ruble em I'm GonNa Call Him Rape Park. Yeah grabs ray park by the neck and flips him and he lands half on and half off the stage. I'm like that could break his back. I know that not long. After this ray park got a bad injury to his hip and there were some people kind of fat shaming him for his appearance in Solo. And he's like I can't work out the way I used to. I'm forty two now and I have a bad hip. I wondered if that fall is what took his hip out. I mean it was a rough look and fall. Oh you're doing this movie. Favors by saying people are like destroying their hips and not able to move again. But we don't know that. Yeah you say that but Chris Catan broke his neck making Corky Romano and could never move. Oh no I'd have to believe that's happening with everybody and not just rape park what I'm saying. It's like the directive seems to be. Nobody go crazy here. Yeah wave a flag around shoot a gun. But the last thing we want to see it king of fighters is someone do any martial arts and here. I'm wanting more than we're getting. We're just get a glimpse of the belt thing. And then ray park runs away cuts his own hand and teleport's off and leaves the sword behind that kind of confuse me at first and so we find out the swords of fake right. There are three tribes. Each artifact is owned by a different tribe member and the Sword Owners. No longer participate. There's this woman shizue ru who tasked with finding that soared act two begins and this feels like deep into the movie but like twenty minutes into this movie. Feels like years is suddenly has to go to hospice. Care and talk to some Mute Old Asian man when she runs into Yori there and gives all this exposition that I was told by this person to come to this person that I saw this person. When did that happen? It doesn't matter because I have no idea why she came to this. Hospital are what she hopes to get out of a mute. What's he going to say? He hasn't talked in the last ten years but sure enough as soon as he sees her boyfriend he flips out and tries to. Kill Them. We'll find out there's bad blood because they're members of different clans. And that flashback comes way late but did I don't know he didn't make a mute like he just knocked him on his ass. No bashes brain and I'm thinking brain damage okay. So he didn't technically wouldn't have the thinking capacity to recognize him right. I mean if he was truly mentally disabled Stewart. It's this movie now. The problem with that thinking is as a fighting movie. They have to set the bar for what is a finishing blow or what damage fighter can cause. That will have meaning to us as viewer and they never do that like. It's all just violence for violence sake. We don't know like Oh. This is just a fun fight or this is a fight for the death. I mean they do say that you know has now set it up. So contestants come in and he's GonNa Kill Them for real but visually. We don't say anything that says. Hey this type of fight move is more dangerous than this type of kick. It's just all kind of up in the air and before. Ci Sue attacks. Yori and then dies we get this flashback of new young training somebody now. I thought the person he was training was young. Yori and that's why he shows up he's like I'll kill you. I thought maybe the student portrayed the master. I am not trying to racially profile. Anybody but didn't it look like young? Yasu was training an Asian person. Who then becomes Sean Ferris? Who's a white dude named Keough? Yes well here are some facts Sean. Fares does not have Asian bloodline that he's ever listed in his profile and yes his younger self is the child of this Asian man and is played by an Asian child and so is that a disconnect absolutely. It takes a beat to figure out that this fake Tom. Cruise is opposed to be this man son and is going to be the major figure again. Another fan favorite is Kyo Kusanagi. Yeah I I was totally surprised that the Asian child grew up to be Sean Farris and that I mean I could be fine if I just need the child and the adult of the same character to be the same race. I'm fine. He has a white mother. Okay that's fine and he was born lighter skinned than his dad. But that's why I again three watchings before I realized that was not young. Yori BEING TRAINED BY YOUNG. Seis you and that's why you wakes up and attacks him. I thought it was his former student. No I'M GONNA find out by the end of the movie this whole back story about Yorii and the Arro- Chee and all of this but man. It is not the cleanest way that you could tell the story. I'm quite convinced. In this day and age there would be a giant cyber protest to the casting of this man in this role except nobody cares like again. No one knows about this property. They just haven't discovered yet. Maybe one year Sean Fares will get flamed on the Internet for having done this in white face but I don't think people care was Ernie Reyes junior busy. 'cause I love Ernie Reyes junior and he could do the ship yeah. I'm sure there are a lot of people that could do it but clearly again. I want to stress back that his clean cut. Tom Cruise looks had to be something that they wanted. He was in a modest karate hit in America and had some international play so they thought this was van Damme. One of those Sugalski like somebody that was going to come up and have a real straight to tape. Credibility is such a concept is not an oxymoron. That's what they thought they had in this guy that he was going to be a name that you could plaster on. Dvd Boxes for the next twenty years. Here's one huge mistake in my mind about this movie. Our point of view character. The one we center around is my yeah and I get it because she is also a fan favorite character. I liked fighting with her. She could throw fans you know. She had a projectile attack. Which meant I could stay the hell away from those people punching me. Let's be clear though. She's a fan favorite because she's objectified. I don't think she had an interesting backstory. At all my sense was she dated other people and they were the focal characters of the storylines but for me what matters is can I win with them? Everything else is secondary. I could win with little Freddie Krueger. I could win with the guy with the big steel ball and I could win with my but my I seems to know what's going on. We get this keough. Who doesn't Know Jack Shit about sitting there? I don't think he even knows his dad does martial arts six hundred. I guess he was trained as a Kid. But he's reading philosophy to his dad he doesn't know about the sword he doesn't know about the parallel dimensions. This guy should be our point of view character so we can learn as he learns instead of having US learn when Maggie q goes and fights bear coat guy and then we have this character who's oblivious to everything and he has to figure it out again and nobody believes it. Yeah I mean I think there are three main characters four really. Is that too many? I don't know I mean there are teams. Have three in the video game. Seemed to me like you. WanNa limit it to three people coming from different clans. The three clans coming together would be the way to structure this. I feel like it is. I feel like we have three main. Heroes comes together at the end. Which is my Yori and Keough and the way everyone ended you fight three on three until you get to the boss and then you fight three on one and the boss is really tough. Yeah I again but you're forgetting the guy in the red hat. He's a big deal. He may be a big deal to players. He may be nice to throw in there but he's the Kylie Minogue of this movie. What Kylie Minogue was Van Damme in Street fighter? Two I mean. Wow that's digging deep. I mean I don't know what anybody was van that movie. I think she was Cammie. And that's a character people liked here. He's in it but definitely a supporting character. These comic relief. He's bumbling he's always behind he's supposed to be head of the operation and everyone else knows more than him. And he's supposed to be figuring out that this technology transport you to another world and everyone else knows and believes that except for him and it will take a most of the movie to get on board. We have a couple of other fan favourite characters in here because as you might expect sexy lesbians do become fan favourite characters. Yeah so ruble. Now that he has taken two of the artifacts can take over the tournament and so he's baiting other players to come into my realm which by the way is fish cannery with purple lines. And we'll see what happens and answer is not much but you know he does get these two lesbians down and if you're hoping that there's some even pg thirteen st minus. I I don't think it's there. There's a weird moment in the locker room because they're like they just finished a workout or sparring or something when we're introduced to vice and mature. Yeah those names to mature. Is that a tough name. I made sure the part of Prince's entourage definitely feels like they're much more parter the revolution then. They are part of this video game. World Mature was actually a tough fighter. Too I like fighting with her. She I believe in one of the Games was partnered with my butt in the locker room. They're like somebody walks out and you can still see them in the mirror walking out of the room at one of them. I can't tell which is which in this movie goes. We're alone now. Takes her over to a bench and then like the worst lap dance ever eighteen to twenty four inches away. The one standing up is like writhing and the one on sitting down is moaning like she's being touched but there's no punching is like the most awkward sexy scene I've ever seen. Yeah my first. Porno is what this is for the ten year old. That's just finding out about these things but boy it doesn't do much for anybody else but ruge gets them down and then he's like has them like pick up the phone and call other people and they're like. Oh Yeah it's great robos like a good boss calm and fight for him. He'll be really point is I. Think they're following the video game trope that there are some mannequins later. I guess maybe that's happening. I don't know I do WanNa give a shout out though to the costume designer because when vice and mature get into this parallel dimension and they're fighting against poor ray park in a hockey mask and Roller Skates. Just an awkward fight but they look great in it. Do they great? They look great. Nobody looks great. But it's something and I did like the under Armor Product Placement on Ray Parks Hat. Did you guys notice that? He's wearing the cap backwards just so the words under armor can take up much of the frame anytime. There's a close up. Yeah I mean alienware laptop wherever they can get it in this movie. They need a lot of money. I don't believe they lost any money on this movie because it does feel very much like it. Has the budget of a one hour syndicated Scifi show? I'm also a little bummed because ruble? He has one red eye and in the early games. It's like a big deal. Because he lost his eye one of the people rip desire out and then he had to get a cybernetic eye and he wants revenge for losing. The I. I thought Bruegel should've lost the I in one of the early fights either in the museum or later on we get a flashback to ruge losing a different fight to Yori. I thought Yori when he was under the power of the ROTEA should've rent out a motive. We find in that fight rule still had the red eye way back then yes. I agree that there should be drama with characters experiencing change in growing and developing all of. That would be really wonderful to see on the screen but army. We already established. There is no fighting in this movie. So how can he lose his I in a fight? That is non-existent. Well I just said there was a two on one fight rape park the line. This is every man's fantasy two girls and a guy that wasn't a fight that was some kind of elementary school lesbian demonstration. That is barely a coherent concept of action. But then we bring in the Gamer right. Oh God I forgot about this guy we actually do bring in the guy who looks like he's playing all these games with his alienware laptop. He's balding he's Chubby. I'm like is he one of the fighters. No He's the person holding the controller. All I'm thinking is okay. You have a very niche audience that you're shooting for here anyway and I'm guessing a good chunk of that small portion of the populace our guys who look like this guy so let's not spend all your time with this guy making fun of this type of guy because that's the only people that are. GonNa Watch your movie. Yeah you definitely want to give him a hero moment. He needs to do something that's cool and I don't recall that ever happening in this movie. No they threatened to send him to get mo- but that's about all I remember. Yeah he is having a fight with the CIA because at this point feels they can come out of the shadows out of the surveillance van. They saw some guy shoot up the place so now. They want to take over their laptops. They want to understand this idea of the king of fighters competition happening in another round. I still want to understand that too by the way we're about forty five minutes into the movie. Yeah it's because they don't have the visuals to make it work. I mean it'd be one thing if it looked like you know inception or something. I feel like they wanna do that when we see keough because he doesn't really believe in it for a while too you know he's the character holding out saying. I don't want to participate soaking at his dad's grave and doing a whole lot to stall this movie from getting to an action piece when he finally goes into the realm. It's this a lot of like walked off screen right and come back onscreen left and just really unconvincing home movie kind of Special Effects Video toaster. Yeah totally I remember that application. The biggest problem I'm having is what are the stakes of this other realm. Why does the CIA care? I mean if it was this. Other realm the fighters are there and fighting for the pleasure of the gods that if they don't the God's will come and take over our realm or something but it's just at the end of the day it's just this handful of people go in there and fight. Who CARES WELL? You know we have this. Cherie Zoo that I think. She's kind of one organizing it. She got hurt and she's been lying in a hospital bed for most of this movie. Chill eventually die and blow away like Danny Lyons. She has one line where she lectures about the worth of King of fighters. She says. It isn't real life but as a place where you can challenge yourselves and learn to be better when you come back. I think she's like the spokesperson the PR person for this video. Game making the case that when you play video games when you do this oppose it. Waste of time thing. You're better off for doing that so fine. Message for Video Games. But I'm asking in this movie's logic. What is the consequences for the real world if this virtual world is actually killing people now? It's like well. He's not recruiting regular people. It's only these people that are already in the know. Anyway which seems to be a handful of people. Yeah I mean. That's the worst of the game to her. But you're saying why would anyone care that's not playing it? There is dragon. There is an Iraqi every now and then floating in and out and I think you tie it back to the story line that ran through the video games vaguely. It was the idea that it had to be contained by the artifacts. And that if you don't contain it it could I don't know could've getting the real world. Maybe maybe they say that we do see the merging and demon fighters start going out in the real world that Ruge. L- has corrupted. Probably the real world looks like a lot so I never know what reality is supposed to be. Or what's supposed to be this magic king of fighters around but yes. I think they do said have some lip service to saying that the two worlds are now merging because of Magic's when you have legitimate stunt fighters does it really cost that much to have them fight because it feels like. We're not getting any of it here. It really does feel like you know we do get a brief moment where my flips. Kiu and dislocates his shoulder and things. But I'm like why couldn't that have actually been a fight? I guess Keough doesn't know he can fight right. He has no idea that he was trained as a kid or well again. This gets back to my idea. Maybe you don't have to be thinking of it from the video game perspective as you've already said a lot of people that love fighting games aren't necessarily in fighting shape but that's the whole thing. They can still get something out of that. So keough who by the way looks very much like he's in shape but he comes from the world motorcycle maintenance he has no idea about all of this. Kung Fu stuff until he puts on the earpiece and then pull out the sword. And do it yeah. It's it's difficult to know because you're right. We did see one scene of him as a very small child training but my sense is that he hasn't it's rusty. He hasn't done that in decades. Maybe I tried to figure this out. And maybe I'm digging too deep. But do you think he's a motorcycle repairman because of the book? Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance. Maybe I don't know. Or maybe just filming. The fish cannery is right next door to a bike shop and look kind of cool in Tron legacy. So why not yeah? Tom Cruise rides a motorcycle. Looks Cool in top gun? I mean I definitely feel like they were star making role. This is not a moment that is meant to be for action. It's supposed to be sexy right. Because then she has the takeoff off his shirt. And Papas dislocated shoulder. Back in. But I don't ever have sex like I just feel like this movie can't deliver on anything is PG THIRTEEN. It is unrated. Oh and I mean it feels. Pg thirteen at mast it feels PG. That's what I'm saying like. Where's the thirteen? I want just a little bit more here. Because there's just it's so bland. Oh come on. Some million mom march would have problems with lesbianism and a PG film. There's awful lot of obscure crotch shots in some of these fights to are falling downstairs and over banners and just wherein small little panties under those skirts. Like you said it's a starter porno for younger kids at some points. I would let my kids if I had kids. I let him watch this because it puts them to bed. Fasters like seriously like go to bed. Five minutes of this. They're out and I'm done for the night like it's great. There's nothing offensive about this movie except that it's not trying to be offensive. It's amazing how little happens in the next part of this movie. Where Yeah my is outed as agent to no real effect whatsoever. Yori kind of just stocks off. But then he's GonNa come back later and we get a couple more people going to this alternate dimension we do see. Yori gets teleported in it has to fight mature and vice and smoke starts coming out of his eyes. And that's where we're supposed to realize he has the erosion him which makes me wonder how the Roach appeared to that fight at the beginning if it's bed in your e the whole time based on the game it's in the characters. Bloodlines everyone in that. Whole clan has been touched by Iraqi and therefore that's why there is turn all silver whatever they can just kind of go berserk mode like Wolverine but we see later on in. The flashback yeah that your e is losing a fight and the CGI snake show up and he sticks his hand up and takes the snakes into himself right. Yeah so how? The snakes still floating around for other people. You can debate that all you want. It's because that was the one effect that was finished. They could do earning. That was the one thing they hired the Special Effects Company. And said you're GonNa make an alternate dimension right. Oh sure you can do all this stuff. Yeah no we can make a God damn snake float down and that's it again. You're giving them way too much credit. You think there was a special effects company. I think there was a kid in Vancouver. Who was like I can make snake? Yeah no that's the company that I speak of it. It's borderline unprofessional. I have to remind myself this came out in twenty ten because I don't watch a lot of fan films but when I'm at COMECON. Sometimes they're airing. I saw Batman versus Predator as some of these others. I've seen some lightsaber fight. Fan Films all of them had better action and better special effects than this and they were coming out either before or around the time of this. Yeah this was done on the very cheap all the money that they had went to these names there was nothing left to do. These names cost twelve million dollars. I mean Maggie Q. This cost twelve million dollars. That's what he says. I Don I doubt it. I just GonNa dispute that is untrue. That doesn't doesn't feel true. Well you know in Canada when you shoot in Canada you get half of your money on a Canadian production from the government so they could pad that out and this could only cost like three million dollars and some people could have made some money. I it just doesn't look you mentioned fan film and the more I look at this. It definitely feels like yeah TV episode again. I keep a lot of TV in that Seifi. Realm is shot in Vancouver. That's what they're known for and it just it has that look about it. The thought I had when I did see Yori. Fighting Vice and mature was there were some angles where they went candid and things and the lighting. I did have a moment where I'm like. This has the production values of the Generation X. TV movie then. I'm like no. I gotta be honest this better effects than that and the video quality is better because this is shot on digital and that looked like it was shot on VHS. But it's not much better and it is on par. There's a reason I don't watch a lot of those. Dc or superhero television shows because every time hawk man has to fly or have those wings. Come out or somebody shoots lightning bolt. It looks like shit ever really looks bad on television budget. And that's what I feel. I'm watching here. And yes if it wasn't for now playing. I would have been watching this movie at this time. I kind of feel bad for Mega Q. Because out of all of them I feel like she might be doing the most there or at least. Maybe I'm finding the most appealing hard to say. But she's better than this. Yeah maybe if it had just been her movie and not a team up movie I know the more I think about it. There's no saving this. There's nothing here to save. This is a bad film. That should not have existed. A the biggest thing that made king fighters unique is that it's a team so you need to have that gene and boy. Do they do that? Everyone grabs an artifact of the end users artifact power to trap the CGI snake and it's fantastic really. We do finally get to the flashback at this moment because the three of teamed up against ruble and that's when ru Google reveals and we see the flash back it was not high. It was your you who put your father in that coma and we see was was losing a fight to wriggle eddie grabs the euro and he not only beats up. Rou- goal but then he continues to publish them when he's down and when the others tried to stop him yeah he grabbed Keough's Dad's head at just smashed it again and again and again into cement. Yeah Yori was a villain character in the Early Games. And they just liked him so much that they use that make made an anti hero and so they're trying to retain that here by showing that he has a dark past and that he's hurt the character that allegedly we all like which is key. Oh I'm just chuckling at this scene because it set in a park that has somewhat Asian architecture in the background but not necessarily in the snow all over the place and I can't help but think whoever shooting it or designing the set or picking the location had like this grand. Kill Bill style shocking. Mind you know. We're we're there in the garden and snowfall slowly and it's exactly five minutes. This is just like somebody came through with a snow blower and there's just piles of blown snow in the background. It makes you wonder how many of these terrible movies we've seen in boy. We've seen a lot. What if they threw more money at this? We might find us except you know there's a certain level of technical acceptance that we could blanket over the screen writing problems but when you have this level of production there's nothing to cover up. How threadbare all of this is just it. Looks I mean I think they are literally using homeless people here and there in an outlet? We're all these people in trenchcoats. I literally just went to a soup kitchen and go David. They don't do any fighting there. Just wander around flaming barrels of trash either way. They were willing to take punches to the face for five bucks for the day. So yeah it's fine. We're literally reduced watching bumfights. And you say David Lynch's characters a fan favorite but this is who he fights. This is the entire point of him in this movie is He's like you go on. I'll fight the bums. Well and dyson mature like the two lesbians are Kinda on him and he does something with a hat but basically you're right. It's for the main three to team up. My is not. There's something about her past that gets teased to rouge. Zoo is like I know who you really are. Are we supposed to think that she? Some long lost clan member of hers because all these artifacts are from one of the three different clans in order for her to hold onto the third clan mirror. I would think you know. I don't want to keep talking about clans. Give the wrong idea but I wanNA talk about it. Feels like they had a reveal that they didn't quite pull the curtain back on was the fact that she was her daughter connected in some way to this clan with the mirror so that she would actually have some level of importance to this final mirror necklace sword battle at the end. The worst part of this whole movie okay. It was a not recommend. It was a flaming right. Arrow at you know and I will say this. There is a couple of things from the game. They bring in like the flame effects when they punch in flames. Come out that is something from the Games that you could do. Catch people on fire with your fists and that was Kinda Cool. I'm seeing them. Try to be a little bit true to the game. Yeah but then at the end they do. What the Games do. We have ruge L- and he takes out my and then he takes out. Yorii then it's down to him and Keough and it looks like he goes down but then it's like they ripped off the end of the last dragon because keough suddenly realizes he has the power of the glow at or the end of mortal combat. Where Luke Hang realizes he is the chosen one but instead of keough being like I am the Chosen. One and now I'm going to kick ray parks asks. It's I am the Chosen One. I'm going to throw the sword Ray Park is just going to turn into a CGI pile of ash that not the end. I want to a martial arts movie. Yeah I think we're all going to sign a petition. No Martial Arts and Vancouver movie again like if I want to see this kind of it's gotta be done in Hong Kong. I am not going to blame our good friends to the north for this piece of Shit. Everyone has proven themselves in this genre. The only one that hasn't is being coober. So that's what I'm blaming. Dead Pool was shot in Vancouver and it was much better effects. That this but ray park disappears and then Te'o and my or leg. Well see around caffeine running the tournament. Yeah but we GIG GHOST DAD with some final words of wisdom as he stares off into space from a sound stage it with a cliffhanger. There's somebody I'm guessing you should recognize if you're game player sitting on a bench on a pier that looks back and pretends the possibility of a of fighters two to come. I think at the Ori. I think it's like they did eventually. Team up in King of fighters ninety seven or something like that. Yes idea that these mortal enemies are going to hash it out for a sequel Ha. Yeah Good luck with that but yeah that was the Ori on the pier. Was it okay? Just the way he looked like Ha- recognize me like should. I know you shouldn't just in Stewart's do you recommend the king of Fighters Justin no Stewart. I mean I will be quick because there's just nothing to sink my teeth into here but like coming. No expectations really didn't have any history with this game. And when I went to look it up as like. Oh yeah if I did see this game back in the day I probably would just said. Oh it's a streetfighter rip off and not paid much attention to it and it kind of feels like the people made his movie kind of did the same thing as like. Oh it's a street fight a rip-off let's not do much with it but then to hear talking about some of these cool characters are in the game and the fans of the game that would like to see those. They could make something different and cool here. We could've seen cool big characters having fights and stuff like that but this movie it didn't know what it wanted to be and what it wanted to do and it just I mean we said it already felt like a movie that you might catch on the sci fi network at three a m and the ever saw. That's all it ever will be and that's all over should be so even if you're fan of this game. I don't think there's much for you here. So I'm I'M GONNA give it a big Red Arrow big not recommend Stewart's. Yeah we've covered quite a few fighting game adaptations at this point and none of them have been good. I JUST WANNA put out there. I have disliked all of them. You have disliked all of them but mortal Kombat is good. There are a few like mortal Kombat that at least understand the appeal of the source material and they deliver some level of juvenile. I would also throw in. Dos Dead or alive is one that almost kind of half works. You know. They at least took it through the arena. They showed you some fan favorite characters. They've made you pump your fist once or twice. Feel some. Maybe some alternative dimension like you were being entertained. It isn't that hard to do to do that. You know what I mean to just be a bad movie. That is going to mince and show off. The characters kickoff tournaments the problem was. It's not that the video toaster affect. Sir Not the magic artifacts with the artifact ing digital bags. It's not the new metal that is it new metal at this point when it's ten years beyond Ecus. I don't even think it's new mental. It's like all of mental. Its end you so yeah. It's still new metal but they have enough raw materials to deliver a punch. Cheese can hit you hard if you deliver it right if you have the filmmakers willing to wind up and just sock it to you but the problem is it's in the script. The script calls off the tournaments and so does the movie all these characters are stuck with a earpiece on saying can I please connect with fight. Nope they will never get one good action scene. They don't even fail they forfeit. This is a movie that actually is going to forfeit. To Legend of Chun Li's. That is the victor here and so my theory is always that it's better to be marketable than doll. And this is one of the most all. It's not the most dollar that tech into nobody can take it away from you. Check into you are one of the most board movies of all time but it definitely is one of the most forgettable games in the arcade. The king a Flash City. Here is absolutely monotonous. I can't believe you have so much talent on screen that you wasted. I mean Rape Arc. Looks no better in this movie than the bad. Cgi snakes it is not hard to take this game and make a movie out of do away and world combat. Did I mean the game? The entire premise is. There's a fighting competition and you go and yes there is somebody behind it. Changes are dark. It's either an ancient spirit with a Tattoo of eight heads on his chest or it's evil corporation involved in DNA. Splicing wants to find the best fighters but by the time you're in even king of fighters like ninety nine. It's a global sport by King of fighters fourteen. They're like two and a half billion people are tuning in well. Let's get twenty billion. People turned in well. The population of the Earth is seven billion. Can we just deal with seven billion? Everybody knows about the tournament so just have a tournament. It's not that hard to rip off. Enter the Dragon. That's exactly what I was trying to say. It's right there in front of you. You don't even have to work for it like just do the thing. Yes do thing that people put the quarters in and someone will kind of half like it. Otherwise what exactly are you trying to get from the property that you're adapting whatever reason you're adapting it. I mean I kinda got it with Tekken that tech and had a mystical stuff and all of that that had a going on and there was a lot of story attack in watching those tech and anime and things. I got why you didn't just focus only on the tournaments but every other fighting game I've played it's all about the tournament. Just do that. Don't do Parallel Dimension Bluetooth headsets. Imagine how much more money they could've spent on the fighting if they didn't have Bluetooth headsets. Literally in Twenty Ten Bluetooth. Headsets probably cost around fifty bucks apiece. That's a couple extra high kicks. If I heard you correctly all they had to do was painted dragon on someone's chest. They didn't have to hire the computer graphics. Exactly and put in tiny Freddy Kruger and the big fat guy with the metal ball pit characters who are visually interesting. I mean that's something. Even streetfighter did right is bringing saying g then attempted Blanca. I mean bring in the unique looking characters tried just all. I need a burly guy with a beard. I can find one of them at my local post office. I mean that's all you need in this movie and then the little person Freddie Krueger. That's a little harder to cast. But I'm sure there's somebody out there who fits the bill. I mean seriously. I came into this movie after playing the Games and Ben like I can't wait to see this movie and then I couldn't wait for this movie to be over. It is yet another. I mean I can't I can't even quantify or put in order all the shit video game movies we have done. Yeah I put a list out on letterbox of all the video game movies. We've reviewed and I put star ratings on letterbox. And so many of them are one-star. And how do I put in order the worst movies I've ever seen? This is among them. What a fucking waste of time. Not Recommend maybe I got something for you if you want to see a much better version of this story in two thousand seventeen a twenty four part web series anime four part. I'm already out now. It is ninety minutes too long a three hour experience. I sat through. It's start finish and the computer graphics are so sometimes they're not bad and sometimes well you know you could tell like they slacked off that you know. They put it out episodically eventually. It was collected but it is the story of ruble hijacking the king of fighters and it's got a lot of fan service. It's got the guy with the big ball. It's got the little Freddie Krueger. It's got characters all of the ones from here and a whole lot more you'll learn their back stories. You'll see their moves. You'll know what the property is having watched it on like something like this where you're like. I don't know what they were going for with. Someone just interested in paint swabs. There's something I kept failing like. Maybe someone just wanted to paint their house purple. And that's why they kept walking through different shades of purple in that fish cannery but yeah. King of fighters is probably. Yeah if you made it ninety minutes. I would say it will be a mild dot recommend. I did watch three episodes of it. So that was what forty five minutes or so and it's better than this movie but I decided I'd rather spend my time doing research for the show playing the game. Some more I. The game is actually fun. I really strongly recommend the one that came out. Recently and by recent it was twenty sixteen for the playstation for it was responsive it had good graphics. It brought most of my favorite characters back added a bunch of new ones. They're coming out with a new one. I hear this year. I never believed that the movies are collection of the property. I mean I'm wise enough at this point to realize that what makes a game good rarely if ever gets translated into the movie itself. I'll be amazed if they ever make a movie. That's more fun than the gang. Yeah this one. Eight are quarter. Can we get it back? Go play the game. It was a nice find and beyond that this was not fun. But man I feel like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire because the next movie we're doing is an movable period piece with Burt Reynolds. Yeah in the name of the King. People King of fighters is just the warm up for the worst maker of all time to return to playing for three weeks. Starting Next Tuesday. It is at his most expensive. 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Ep. - 212 - PAULIE CALAFIORE FROM THE CHALLENGE

Reality Life with Kate Casey

47:01 min | 1 year ago

Ep. - 212 - PAULIE CALAFIORE FROM THE CHALLENGE

"Welcome to another episode of Reality Life with. Casey hope that you've had a great week. I'm sure you've been holiday shopping and I'm also hoping you took those gifts home. You pour yourself a glass of something and maybe got a bowl of potato chips and watch some TV. I'm I'm hoping that one of those. TV shows was the real housewives of Orange County finale. It's no secret that I think that that show has been horrible for a couple of seasons. You basically have two factions not show you have the older women and the younger woman and the older woman have been on the show for way too many seasons. They've been on the show for like twelve seasons. I mean your lives are completely different from the first season that you're onto the twelfth season I mean your kids have no outcry on your home and you don't have that much going on. There's not that much drama if you were to take some of these women and go to a dinner party and sit down and talk to them. I'm sure they wouldn't be as interesting as you'd think so to have a television show about their lives. I it's kind of a stretch so it seems like entire season. It's been like two groups of women you have Tamra Vicki and Shannon and then you have Kelly Gina and Emily sometimes uh-huh Gina Floats in between. Of course she'd floats because she's going through this life-changing she saw sort of was lost the season and they're like oh great. Come to our side. This this is our plan. We can kick some other people off the show. And then we will rise to the occasion and take over This timeslot the problem is that the viewers are revolting bolting or like. We're sick of seeing people like Vicki gumbleton on TV. Her kids who left the house years and years ago. Okay her kids. Don't even want to be on the TV show. Oh there's not that much going on on the show spurs her life and she doesn't even like anybody else and the fact that she's constantly throwing it in front of other people's faces that she's been on on the show forever doesn't really actually help her so bronwyn she knows my friend. I remember she told me that the first meeting she had with Vicky she said. Are you going to thank me for letting you be on my show. So can you imagine that this is the mindset that she's the responsible for the success of the show Oh that she should always be on. But it's basically like having someone at your sorority house who should have graduated sixteen years ago and just Kinda like hangs out a sort of like Regina Georgia's mom she needs to get off the show. So I obviously delighted in the part one reunion when Gob and the producer is responsible for her as she has a complete meltdown that she's been kicked to the side as a friend and doesn't even get to sit on the couch as a predominant pass member the other great part of it was. There's nothing I love. More than a rogue family member on a reality show Vicki's brother Billy has appeared throughout the seasons on the show. This this is not somebody who has an agenda for spin off show to be an instagram influence. Sir He's just a brother that thinks the show she's on pretty much quasi garbage and loves to give her shit because she probably goes home if you can imagine to Chicago and goes on and on and on how she is the one that saved cable all television and she's a big star. He's probably like if I listen to the ship or more time. I'm GONNA go crazy. So what I love about billy is. He shows up to the reunion finale party which is also supposed to be Vicky Steve's engagement party which is a little bit strange because the theme is like cowgirl. Now you're not cowgirl when your grandmother sorry also I feel like. She's the kind of person that changes in personality depending on who she's whip so it's a cowgirl themed themed I'm like Oh all of a sudden you like cowgirl music you live in southern California encoded Okaz anywhere Chanel like I'm confused. So he reveals sales to everybody. That Helga Steve's mother doesn't actually think those two are actually going to work out that they have absolutely nothing in common and it's clear to billy they don't either. Yeah I mean. Does this guy want to get married. He asks everyone. And those are the great moments in reality television the rogue family members. And you could tell that Tamra agrees with him and she. Her eyes lit up in a way that they hadn't for like five seasons now but then they we just moved on. And I'm like that's why Vicki's off the show. Because if she were to be on the show any any longer they would have focused on that. Right I'm right also so I just think that you know the time has come. I think that the Camera Shannon Vicki to go they just don't have anything in common with the younger recast. I think they need fresh meat. have been saying this for years but I mean if it doesn't happen I don't think the show can go on anymore so I'm GonNa say clean sweep deep top three off the boards you get three new ones in. Fortunately I know a couple of the girls that are considered as candidates for the new season and if they do cast them. I'm telling you it's going to be a much much better. Show this episode of excited about because I got a chance to talk to Holly Caliph. Yori now this guy is pretty pretty well known and famous. I was shocked. When I announced that I was interviewing him? People people came out of the woodwork. I so many dams from young women asking me questions about mostly about his relationship with Car Maria and then older women in that. We're like tell me about the strategy that he has on these different shows so it he's got a lot of fans so what's interesting about him is that he's been on big brother and MTV's ex on the beach and the challenge and he's the kind of person has like zero percent body fat. You know that he just eats boiled chicken and and that he works out all the time and all he thinks about strategy be unseen Tepe being on television and just try to general like if he goes on a run with you so he has to beat you. If you guys go hiking he's gotta be ahead of you. He's just like one of those people so I was really interested. Talk to him about how he's cast from for big brother what we don't know about big brother because it's been a couple of seasons obviously since he's been on how he cast for ex on the beach what it takes to compete in the challenge. What is the training training schedule? Like and I was most interested in what he had to say about creating a persona on the television show. And how you need that to be mentally mentally fit so that when you get off the show you can quickly get acclimated back into real life and you can also separate yourself from the TV show. So that when people get really wound up about episodes and they come after you especially on social media that there is some sort of protection. Because I don't think I've ever heard any reality star. Say That before for and it made sense in terms of other villains that appear on reality shows. I wonder if they would agree then. Lastly I asked him about his romantic life. He's got this girl named Carl Maria that he's been with on the challenge and they compete together. which is again always so interesting to me because I would never compete gene and show with my husband? That would be horrendous. So I think you're really going to be interested even if you have not watched any of the shows he's been on. You're going to enjoy because it's like the mind of Reality Star not one on like a housewife show where you just show up and have a glass of Chablis and talk shit about each other but somebody who oh has to compete at peak physical Level I just thought was really interesting and quite honestly. I thought he was a lot more charming than I expected expected. I thought he'd be this sort of like Super Msci. Smoke I but I thought he was actually quite sweet. So here we go paulie Calif.. Yori has been seen on big brother acts on the beach and now on the challenge and I am very thrilled to tell you that I've tracked him down. Paulie welcome to the show while thank you for having me Tate. So you're from this super tight Italian family in New Jersey. A- are we talking like a Jersey shore kind of family like. What is your family makeup? You know I wouldn't compare to the Jersey. Sure I mean. We are close knit Italian family. So like your stereotypical loud at the holidays. Everybody cracking jokes that everybody. We're not really. The Fist is pumping times. But but we do get wild own regards before you start your television career. You're an athlete. Tell me a little bit about that. Yeah I mean. I grew up playing soccer and wrestling I ended up choosing soccer To be what I put all my folks since you you saw a great career and that Was Captain of my college at Rutgers played. There's one got drafted out to Colorado in the MLS and then suffered a An injury and that was it. You know but I put everything into sports since I was like three years Donald Until about twenty three twenty four so when I when when that left me I really you know. I had no guidance since I had a degree and exercise science but I didn't really know where to go with it what to do with it so I ended up just moving to New York becoming a salesman Housman than the rest of history. So how did you get cast for big brother. So funny story actually My brother and I we were emcees. These are high. End Bar mitzvahs weddings and corporate events in New York City. So we're always in front of some of the most powerful people in this country free Who are like Wall Street? People Warriors agents for professional athletes agents for celebrities and we were doing A A day Minnesota which is brother and sister and and I forget where we're at Gotham Hall. It was in Manhattan and I remember. The producers came up afterwards like great personalities. Great Energy She Have you guys ever heard of the show big brother and me and my brother like Oh my God we love that show. We've watched it for years with our mother and father and sister and at the time I was like you know my brother's face needs to get on TV. He looks like a young John Travolta. He's just start get them on their great personality and then two years later I was able to go on Big Brother as sibling. Twist and rushes history so while your brother was on were you paying special special attention to strategy and then once he came off the show. Did you talk a lot about what works in terms of winning the show. So did you feel like you had a little bit of a of an edge because you had all the information that your brother was able to provide uh-huh I mean people can tell you all they want about what an experience is like and so you get there and you figure it out for yourself. you'll never know it's like it's like reading a book on coaching. You'RE NOT GONNA turn around and be the best coach in the world and you're not GonNa see success coach just because you read a coach who happens comes to be the best in the sport that you want to coach so it doesn't matter that like I was able to talk to him I was GonNa talk to Derrick Because because getting in there you only have what they told you but how you apply it. That's a completely different monster so I learned from my experience. Is there which has helped me in the other shows that I've dinner? And what do you think is the most important component to be being gene a strategic player in any of these Games I think the most important quality you can have is observation And and no emotion Because these Games simulate real life Only in a enclosed condensed environment. So if you were letting your emotions take over then people can easily manipulate you But if you are observant with no emotion than you're only paying attention to people's actions not their words and you can almost pinpoint exactly what they're planning exactly what the plotting when something's GonNa go down People trying make you seem crazy easy You know make you seem paranoid but if you realize that everything is is a social experiment and that people have ways of deflecting their true intention and you go by tangible action That's that's the ultimate way to play. Any of these Games is observation A.. And then almost being smooth with how you pull information right so if I if. I'm observing that. I think two people are working are not gonNA walk up to him and be like hey you to working together you know like that puts them on spot put him out of defense and then whatever they were planning maybe they were planning to take a shot at me. Two weeks from now maybe they might turn around and take a shot immediately right which could be a strategy. WanNa pull out people's true intentions right away but there's a different way to finesse it if you can have a conversation which with each of them separately and then see if their stories match up and then you almost like cross examined and the information that you pull from them. So that's how I go about doing it. I I observe and then across examining conversation. Do you have to be careful about how much you reveal about yourself and your life in order to protect yourself from them for other contestants using that as a weapon against you So in the game. I'm very careful about what I let out about my life. I I don't like to talk about what's actually going on. I like to let people wonder because they don't use it against me from a gain standpoint they use. Is it against me in a real life standpoint like they try and spend whatever narrative they wanna spend whether it's based off of an edit or just based off of things that they you want to in order to make themselves feel better or you know look better so if they know things about your personal life they're gonna use that against you and and not many people can separate game from real life so if someone opens up to me in a game. I'M NOT GONNA use that against them in the game or in real life no matter what like if they screw me over in the game not going to be like. Oh yeah well number one. You told me this about you. Know your deepest darkest secret but unfortunately a lot of the people that are play with. That's how they looked to ruin people's character so tell me three things that we would. We wouldn't necessarily early know about being a contestant on big brother I think for most of the people watching You are locked in house. That's not even a house. It's a studio line. It's very tiny. TV makes it look like it's big and there's tons of space. There's no space and when under setting up for the when. They're setting up for the competitions. The backyard's closed so you're almost locked in very tiny space for four days as a week and that makes people crazy. And there's more that goes into. Its make you crazy. There's like any anytime you're communicated with in order to keep the integrity of the game. It's it's a recorded voice and it almost is like social conditioning. Where like you hear the same voice over and over again and it was like polly? Please Stop Poli. Please go to the diary move and it starts to drive in Spain because you set up that way. They want people to start going crazy. They want paranoia. They want the pressure of the game to set in And it's a very well produced show in the fact that it always gets exactly what it's looking for When it comes to people breaking people get paranoid upsets all that stuff they get all the one hundred percent You know and when it comes to other this shows up in on you know. A lot of things aren't always what they seem like ex on the beach. It's a fun happy show But a lot of those scenarios those are played up in a sense where it's like you know I'm from not really upset about a situation. They're going to be as well. Can you be upset about the situation and really milkin or an online. We're we're making TV. Show here you know and and then With the challenge. I mean it says It's real as it can be in a sense of where you also have understand that you know people have to be characters so if you're watching something and someone's being portrayed a certain way like just know that you know it's really not that serious it's just people know what it is and people know what it isn't so if I'm being portrayed as a villain it's most likely because I know that I'm the village. Yeah I've heard you refer to yourself or talk a little bit about the joker St feel like you've been painted as a villain and you're just GonNa lean into it or do you think that they highlight a part of your persona So when it comes to these shows you are getting pieces of people's personalities. What is what is chosen to be shown? That's a completely different story. So I can be laughing goofing around the entire time. That's the only thing that wants to be shown as my competitiveness. You know my savagery. My lack of Emotion when playing again. That's what's GonNa be highlighted which is part of my personality like when it comes to getting the job done? I let nothing distracts me right. But there's also that side of me that I understand where the game and we're real life separates So I think that that's also been highlighted recently the joker character Taylor is just something that I've created myself because I've always loved comic books right so I've loved Marvel and Z.. In the DC universe I happen to love the villains more than I love the heroes The joker was always my favorite. Just because he was a charismatic Masterminded villain who never really took it like too far. 'cause like his his main Nemesis Batman. He never really wanted Auden to kill Batman. He could the too much fun praying back and forth with Batman so I've also created that persona to protect myself from what social media is and what my cast mates are So it's like I know that if people are saying things about me or people are trying to do this well. They're saying that about the persona that I created him built talk in order to Live this in this world and then the people who really truly WII and my friends my family the people who are closest to me quite often on a daily basis and I feel as though that is something that should be chopped out of the public only little glimpses should be shown. Does it take you a bit of time to get acclimated after you leave the show and you always always feel like you are living within the show. In other words people who have been on survivor of told me that it takes them a couple of weeks to just unwind wind from being on the show and that still years later they find themselves in scenarios whether reacting as if they're still living within the game I'm actually very good at snape myself out of that Almost immediately There is like a a two three week. Grace period of getting reacclimated re reacting to the real world. Where Y- you let go of what just happened in the game? You're not thinking in terms of strategy and all that stuff I've got A. I've got a great psychiatrist. I that gets me right on track almost immediately. You GotTa shut off the aspect of. I'm not dealing with these people that I'm dealing with in the in in in the show so I don't like I don't like to go on twitter and single people out and do whatever like I try to make my tweets funny but when I'm making tweets about myself 'CAUSE 'cause you should always be promoting yourself If you're doing these shows if you WANNA brand yourself correctly you need to be promoting yourself. You need to be promoting show I figured out a way to make sure that the people who dislike me stay disliking me and the people who love me. Stay loving me Because I don't want to just be mugged. I don't want to just be hated. I WanNa have a good combination of the two Business too but that never bothers you that people say that year like. I know that people have suggested that you're misogynistic get points. That doesn't personally bother you ever. It doesn't bother your family. Your girlfriend You know I mean it's goes back to with that old saying sticks and stones. You know I know who I am. I know what I am So I would only be offended by those things if people people were speaking truth about me. is it upsetting that a lot of my house mates are the ones who you know. Jump on board with that Yeah it's upsetting. But ultimately they still play the game in the sense where they want to mentally have any so wound up that maybe I make mistakes next. Go in the game so for me. I just look at everything like everybody's trying to get the advantage. I do the same thing I try and get my competitor heads in the Susan and then leading up to the game and then going into the game I try and get on So who am. I going to think that they wouldn't be doing the same thing to me like. Do I agree with how they go about bounded by calling me or sexist or saying on emotionally abusive whatever manipulative liar. Call me whatever. You want You you know I've seen some of the most vulgar thing said about me to the point where it's like. I have to laugh. You know like you know. It's almost funny to me now. Now because now it's it's like a game like all right. What can what can they think of? Now what can they think. Oh what rumor can they. Can they talk about now. WHO's GonNa believe it and now I'm just I'm at a point where I'm like? Hey everybody you know. Thank you for the free promotion. Thanks for keeping my name relative. Thank you for constantly talking about every move I make you. You have somehow able to have a relationship within the game. How hard is it to separate a real over a mantech relationship from the from living within the game so you dated a couple people on reality these shows but of course people have asked me so much about Kara Maria but I guess maybe we could I go to Natalie because there you oh you had this you know some sort of relationship on big brother? So how out So I mean Natalie Natalie was essentially my rival on big brother I was I was dating this girl. Kia I had numerous talks in the game being like like. Hey look all of our emotions. I'm sure that they are there's real feelings to this but you have to understand that. We're in an enclosed environment. That's not normal real life so but for now let's just focus on the game and When we're out of here that's when we'll see what what our relationship really is about ASPECT ASPECT DOWN. I mean I'm very very pragmatic when it comes to The game right and even with Kara I let her. I know before going in and I'm like hey look This is a job So there's GonNa be the time that we set aside were US being us And then there's the rest of the time so we both are on an understanding where it's like. Hey in the mornings we wake wait You know we have our cute little moments in bunkbeds Then once Once I'm out of bed and once breakfast is done then and I'm walking doing what I gotTa do and I shut down when we go back to bed In the bunk beds. And that's when we can you know talk about talk about what we WANNA do outside the show You know and and kind of have that detox and then go to bed but soon soon as the game starts we have an understanding of rear. Do a job where do we gotta do And we're here to get that money However however we can do it and I think that's why her and I we've made it to the end every single any single time because we're not getting distracted by other stuff we're not letting doing little things Distract us so we are talking to each other the way that he made some sports team. We talk to each other. Do you ever get sick sick of sleeping in a bunk bed You know like I love. I'm more like a couch sleeper. You you know but unfortunately like with the with the production lights on its them near impossible to sleep couch and like people constantly walking by and and all that stuff so Sleeping in a bunk bed. I don't mind it. How do you prepare yourself physically for a challenge So I do I do everything. I A lot Four to five hours a day holy to training. Okay yeah so it's a lot And I and I work with some of the best exercise scientists in the country On Diet and on a regiment. That's not gonNA have any burnout earn out And essentially it's working on a whole bunch of different things so there's the speed and agility aspect of it the strength aspect to it. The endurance running the swimming I do a lot of wrestling Jujitsu and combat stuff like with more tie in Crop Nagai so almost training every part of my body every fast twitch every major muscle and then even my brain To Go I I've been AH adapted this When hawks method it's a very popular method? Uh Monks Jujitsu guys where you practicing breathing texting techniques this. This is another method that I'm going to be using moving forward. Now where you're almost you go into freezing water you try and get yourself hypothermia and you try it free. So that you're hyperventilating. Oh my and then you you have out and you train while you're numb until your body warms up and then you jumped right back in that four or five times Quick bursts but I really take it to another level when it comes to the training And what I've learned is all the training in the world. Okay doesn't mean anything because you can get hit with something you don't expect and final Or like the climate is way different the training and so I'm constantly pushing the boundaries to make sure that no matter where I am I'm always making it to the end and giving myself the opportunity to when do you consider this the full-ti- like a fulltime job being on the challenges You know a Lotta people would consider a full-time job. I mean if I'm if I'm aligning five hours a day to trading it's really only Thirty five dollars a week if you want to count seven days right so. It's only twenty five hours a week until Monday to Friday. So that's part time hours. You know what I mean like. There's so much else that I'm doing that. Do make up like my fulltime life and my full time job I worked for myself. I can't really talk about a lot of things I'm doing because I keep that close to the chest asked about a lot of my cats can't post about it You know discredit and do anything like that And that's just how I operate. Why are you so concerned about your cast mates? Why does that hidden so much on Promoting businesses that you've built why I today factor so much into what you're doing The reason being because my cast mates have a tendency to tag email and and really try and dig up everything everything about what I'm doing so the less silent I mean the more silent I am and the less I give out The less they can discredit but throws GonNa talk about me and promote it regardless And the last thing I want is for clients of mine to feel Feel guilty for you. Know trusting. Trust me with their with their business. you know so. That's where I keep it. I mean I the only other thing I can let out yeah. I've invested in two franchises. I'm I'm not gonNA say that. The franchises are yet because once again. I'm going downstairs and twenty twenty but I've got lots of things going on twenty twenty. It's going to be an amazing year where I see myself in. Five years is having a diverse portfolio of Franchisees Real estate and online businesses. So that I can focus solely on where I ultimately want to be which is to really diversify myself in the TV world Maybe branch away from reality. TV get into into acting become a host okay. So let's talk about this season of the show. Obviously we just saw the finale. It was hard to see you swim all the way to the vote to find out that he hadn't made it. How long ago was that filmed and did did it take a while to get over? That loss that all rats filming in July You know I look at losses the same way. I look at wings You you take the good from it fixed back from it and then you move on I get over wins and losses very quickly The you know the the hardest part about about losing is you know happen to relive it. you know like when it comes to professional athletes When the Games done you know they realize the moment that they lost right but then having to watch it over and over again is the news talks about it and and everything like all these sportscasters talking about it and what went wrong like? That's the hardest part of any competitor's life but it's a good motivator so if if anything are doing more motivated to fix everything prepare myself even better. I'm because what am I gonNa do quit when I going to give up because I lost. I mean I'm only three seasons in I've I've I've become a very decorated challenger in three seasons and the only thing that trolls and haters eaters in cast mates want to focus on. Is What you WanNa Championship yet. And that's okay with me because a lot of people haven't won championships in their first three seasons and I made a name for myself. And I've positioned myself as one of the better competitors on show Championship is just a matter of time. It's just how well you compare how do you minimize mistakes and and what happens when you ultimately get their D.. I so do you have any regrets about A in the strategy that you had. In retrospect I have no regrets. Only in the sense of that I would have never guessed that would have been much carrying in In the final right. I knew that there was going to be carrying. But I assume that the carrying was only GonNa make up for like maybe four miles of a twenty six mile final. I didn't know that it was GonNa Be Sixteen Miles of twenty six mile final You know what I mean so so other than that. I had assembled a very good team of people who are good with puzzles with math Who are good runners and were strong enough to carry short distances You know and they were stronger. People on the team who maybe could have made up for the caring aspect and there were better runners on the team that made up for that. They were winners than some of the bad swimmers. So I fault that I put together a very well rounded team and you know I wouldn't trade it for the world because these people they they they trusted me and trusted strategy and everybody made it to the final even even the people on the opposing team three through four people wearing my line. So am I gonNA be except that. I didn't win. It could be a little upset but three people that were still one do you Have a relationship with any of these The people on your team in the other team post show so do you know. Do you have any relationship Jordan. ORDEN Tori I stay in touch with everybody The best of my ability You know I've had plenty of conversations issues with Zach plenty of conversations with Jordan plenty competitions with Tori You know just because we're not rolling with the same lines doesn't mean that we don't respect each other's game players And then as far as the people that I rolled with I talked to all of you know I mean. That's that's just how it is. Now people wanted me to ask askew if you're still with Kara Maria. Yeah I mean we we keep our relationship off of social media but And it's for this reason specifically we're we're very very tired of everybody looking too much into our relationship looking too much into our actions looking too much into how much time we spend with each other and stuff like people WanNa know all the details of your relationship just like that. Yeah I do you know and I feel like everybody wants to know things whether they want to use it to try and drag down where they want to use it. You know. It'd be the first person to break the news about something that's going on with us You know I think ultimately people need to just like we live in this world where everybody just wants information right away right. Like I've been home for the holidays with my family She's been home for the holidays with her family And we'll both be back in Montana Dursey but that's nobody's business but hours and then what did do you think about Her reaction to Jordan and Tories engagement when you watched it back. I don't know do you watch the episodes back and if you did watch watch it did you cringe to watch it for the most part. I mean the I mean my reaction tendons there. This is how I is Howard Saltz about it you know and that's how I feel about it but ultimately Not GonNa throw him to Boston. Not GonNa not support her and and other things going on like it's just normal. You don't have to agree with everything that person you're close with says it does. Yeah so you I. I guess I'm hearing that you're not going to be back for the next Sean. You're a little bit of a break. Is that true So I mean I really can't I really can't talk about that too much The only thing I can say that you know there. There's a there's people who don't want me on the show for obvious reasons because you know there. It's very hard for certain people to make it to the end because if you're an enemy of mine do very good job and get rid of my enemy. I mean that's that's just that's just the long story short So there's a lot that it goes on Behind the scenes and and I just hope that moving forward this is not the tactic or technique that is used In terms of competing for the show because I think it would really take away from the show being about competition If some of the competitors do band in together in order to get other competitors not even be on the show but I can't dot too much into it. The only thing I can say is that You know. MTV Marie like they still In high regard they still fully support me. it's just certain things that happened in and some of it was you know me taking a debate on certain things So I have to take accountability for my own outings. where it you know may or may not have cost me coming back for one season But after this you know one season who knows at this point it's a matter of how my players outside of the show if I if I'm even able to come back You know or if I can figure out how to make everything I've worked for for a run itself with people I trust in place so that I can go back. Have Fun and you know still chase after that first title win so in the last episode owed we see you your it seems like your health is depleting were you did it take you some time to come back from that physically. Were there people that were were helping you through that process. I mean I was watching it and they showed you the graphics of you throwing up. It looked like your body was shutting down what was going on Yeah I mean I. I was suffering from each stroke That's that's that's it. I mean it got the point. I was carrying a lot of weight In that that second loop so after eight miles The heat and humidity completely. Got To me We lack of water and you know started started losing my vision. My kidney started shutting down and then just willed myself through it You know to the point where he can. I was throwing up. I don't know what August growing because there was nothing in my body to throw up so At that point it was just a mind over matter thing I do. You put yourself in a messed up situation and You don't really have time to recover from this until it's all said and done so just pushed through might be two days maybe three days Just get yourself to finish because you you can deal with losing but you can never deal with quitting so That's what I did and you know. At least I know that mentally I can get myself through anything so now it's just a matter loved smart. How post myself? How to do whatever? And that's all things that can be learned easily so just switch gears. What is your family they think about you being in the public eye I mean did they get a kick out of it I mean how do they talk about Thanksgiving giving dinners? You're passing the Bread are they laughing at behavior on shows. What do they think about pictures of you? I mean some of these pictures of you I mean hello hello I mean what is your grandmother thing was on what you're talking about. What pictures you're talking about? I'm like Well you know I mean thankfully Both my Grand Grandpar- my grandmothers are long gone. So they don't have to. They don't have to smack me in the back of the head when they show up to the house. We don't really talk about it. You know like when it's family time it's family time and they just want to know that I'm good in in life like they watched the show however it is they understand. It's show an edit. They also understand like How I carry myself on Social Ocean media and whatnot so as long as I'm still in real life and and not on social media being the summit they raise raise There okay are they pressuring you to get married So that that's not really my parents will okay. What's your on sort of your? You are in an Italian family in New Jersey. You're telling me that your parents and are not putting pressure on you to get married and children. I think that my parents are you know between me and my brother and sister they kinda like like well. At least we got codeine Angelina. I'm starting to feel like I'm you know when I hang around like my my baby nieces. I'm sitting here getting baby fever You know when I see people getting married and just having that life from you know getting rich To get married read you know but then there's that side of me that's like you know starting all these businesses and I see the potential of where they go and then I also see the potential where I can go. Is there a possibility that sometime in the near future. There is a Kara. Maria Paulie wedding held held in Thailand and there are bridesmaids in the challenge outfits and your family eating Spaghetti nearby soon. I don't know if we if we want to go back to Thailand. That was just bad bad ed but actually to Thailand is be is the last place but I think a wedding would take place But you never know I mean look if there ever was something like that. Her mother meeting my father for the first time with the TV gold because they would have a lot to say to each other. Oh wait here we could are bad. should say their personalities totally clash. Hopefully without a doubt last question for you is. Will you be attending Jordan Tories wedding if they invite you You know I mean hey invites on the table I'm there I mean I feel like I should do there. I should actually be Jordan. And Tori's best man and maitre d' all in one. Sorry sorry. They made them on her maid of honor start. Made sure is Person runs the sorry I worked in mixes for weight. She wants So I like if I If I buy that I think I should be the best man and the maid of honor because goes without me not proposal would have never happened. Okay I sent him down there As even when I saw it was a sledgehammer elimination. I was like Jordan's GonNa win this. I think he's got some sleet possibly ring. I'm going to send him down there so they can't tell the story of their engagement without mentioned my name. which makes me very intrical? Michael Part of that Weddings Harvey interesting and I would play in the best bachelor Bachelorette parties ever. 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Around The World On 50 Bucks w/ Christopher Schacht

Extra Pack of Peanuts Travel Podcast

1:08:28 hr | 10 months ago

Around The World On 50 Bucks w/ Christopher Schacht

"What other cool fun interesting things did you do in those for years mining gold in the jungle English Guyana in South America, and dais off into the jungle so where no roads? goes. So that was really at a very, very special area and actually I get enough goals to got back and got married to make my own wedding ring out of it and my wife's to. The extra of peanuts travel. podcast episode. Or thirty five. The why hence fonder brewery just north of Munich has been operating since ten forty yes. That's one thousand, forty ad. That's a long time making it. The world's oldest brewery you better believe that I'm going to try to get tickets to that one, thousand, th anniversary celebration. Yori Yorio. In you. Hello Travel Nerds, and welcome to the extra pack of peanuts travel podcast. The show that teaches you how to travel more. While spending less I'm your host Travis Sherry and joining me today as someone who has hitchhiked across oceans who started off on a four year journey around the world with only fifty dollars in his pocket and came home with a wife and who is a fellow twin Christopher shot author of around the world on Fifty Bucks Christopher. Thanks for joining me a huge. Welcome. To Be Masao, I am very excited to chat with you and I my trial. We say that teaches you how to travel more while spending less. But today you're going to be the one who's the expert in that because you have certainly Done that on your adventure, but before we start talking about all this. I saw that you were twin mentioned somewhere on one of your sights and you said your twin is the exact opposite of you. So explain that how is he the exact opposite view? Okay Festival. From the parents and I have blonde hair blue eyes. I'm about one one, eighty, three centimeters I think that's something like six foot. Tall and my brothers about ten centimeters about three inches smaller taller than me. And but then this is only the outside parties, Brown hair Brown eyes but from the inside, I'm sort of the person who wants to go out and explore the adventures type of person and teas such a comfortable home drawn guys. So he would rob a die Ben leaving his nice comfy home and bad and toilet. So yeah, actually this was what his concerns that I was going on this world trip. You said, okay maybe you don't want to miss this opportunity for all the money in the world, but I wouldn't WanNa do it for the money in the world so tell me why are you gonNa go to the toilet while you're out in the woods and all that? and. We're going to sit here on my is heated. Toilet. Yeah. It's crazy right how you can have the same upbringing same parents and yet be completely different especially when it comes to personalities. I tend to say in those times is benedict. You know that I'm five minutes older new. So once you will hit my age, we'll talk again. Okay. That's an awesome line. It's interesting because you know obviously twins or not that uncommon, but don't be a ton of people. And I'm a twin myself. Now I have a twin sister and we are we are very much different in in most ways like I think people who know US say all they're pretty different, but then every once in a while. And I feel like I'm either acting like her I say something I'm like, Oh, I sound like my sister. So is there ever I? Know you say your exact opposites but are there any times or any situations where you do see yourselves sharing certain things? There's traits. Totally. So especially humour when we will in the same class, only one glance to each other would be enough to just burst out laughing and everybody else. would be like what's going on This is so crazy, and until until today there is no other person on this planet who I laugh with so much like with my brother. So that's really amazing. I love this guy even though we are completely different we get along very very well. Yeah that is awesome and yeah, people always ask me well, how what is it like to be a twin? How's IT different? I don't know because I don't know what it's like not to to end right so. There's also the strange telephone thing is creepy. Mind conduct going on that cannot really explain alycia twin for sure for sure. So let's talk about your journey a bit a journey that as as your brother put it, you would not give up for all the money in the world and he wouldn't go on for all the money in the world and you left on this journey fifty dollars in your pocket no plan. So when you first laughed how long in your head, did you actually think it would last? So, I left on the first of July two, thousand thirteen and at that point of course, all my relatives wanted to know Christopher how long are you going to be gone for and I? talked them off as saying well I don't know if I'd give you a deadline. Then you would say probably after two years crucify you said you're going to be back after two years. So now where you are. and. I when I avoid that I will need as long as I need. So no timeframe at all. That's usually what I said brushed them off like this but secretly I I actually thought about two years and then later on it turned out to be far because it's definitely not enough to get once around the world without an airplane. Yeah. Okay. So you brought that up that was one of the big things about this. This trip was that you were you took no airplanes that was intentional at from the very beginning that you weren't GonNa take airplanes. So at the very beginning, I want us to try it but I didn't know if it was possible and. Then once I crossed the Atlantic Ocean I realized. Okay. It's doable and if I've done that then Okay Pacific your come. So I might just will give it a try to just continue like this once I hit the Pacific then it's obvious now, I, I would I would actually wh. Yeah. Totally waste this experience of one seven gun around the world without losing this feeling for time and. Space because when you're going into at plane, then you drink your tomato juice and sit there for seven dollars. What should movie and when you get out your two completely different place and You don't really know how you got there. So it's almost like teleporting and teleportation. But when you travel the distance by Walter by land and all that you sort of got this space in between and the feeling for the distance and that's very precious that is it. That's a great perspective that you and you see things changing right like whether it be. We know that countries like are just lines drawn on a map. So that might not like you cross over one. It's all of sudden different but that that can be the case sometimes based on how good the roads are and all that kind of stuff. But you have you see everything as you go and so it's it's kind of like listening to good music. I. Feel you know you put on an album and you listen all the way through and you don't really realize sometimes what like the different Harrison. Good comparison. Yeah. I love that with good music Y- I'm not sitting here saying Oh this is the next song. Okay. Now I'm in the next it just it just flows and then you're done the album like well, that was quick right you know so. It's a great experience as well. Yeah for sure and you said you had no no plan, but there must have been or maybe there wasn't places that you wanted to see because obviously you could spend you spend your whole life traveling just around Europe and have no plan and take no planes and that would be. Kind of easy right Europe's very easy to take no planes are. So did you have certain like places that you were trying to get to or or did you completely go free flowing? Totally said, first of all, I want to see Paris for example, with the Athol Tala this was certified in this nation and Barcelona as well. But then after that, I had this big dream since my childhood actually to cross a great ocean on a sailing boat or sailing yacht, and then I fulfilled that dream by working on a sailing yacht. Started off from Gibraltar and then getting into the Caribbean and my parents spent their honeymoon in the Caribbean. I also always wanted to see that and then I happened to be there and South America was always very intriguing to me especially redesigned aero and all these places. And once I got there. The list of the places I wanted to see just kept on expanding just goes on and on and on. And you feel like you could spend your whole entire life there. But of course, that's yeah that's. I would say that's not realistic. But at least one month and one one area or one country let's say is sufficient to just get a gist of it to get a feel what may be like to lift their to spend some wartime there. And I just went on like this ticking off the major points on my list like Richard Era the Christ there. Then of course, a much repeat chewed the Panama Canal, and all this. Yes. So you then decided, right? I've got some things that are like all my list that I want to make my way to eventually how did you decide when to move on because as you mentioned that can be. With no plans and no. And no reason to have to come back. That could be difficult to write like how if you really like a place you stay longer but how long is too long right and then you kind of that push pull between art I really like it should I stay and oh well, there's a lot more I wanna see too I feel that even on short trips. So I can't imagine like something completely open ended. And how was it with? You actually get married during your trip that you start off as a couple already, we started off as a couple. So I traveled a little bit. My wife had traveled a little bit but most of our travel life has been with each other. Jessica especially when you're single, you're more likely even to get stuck along the way because you may meet the goal. The one goal of your life or whatever. So I met a lot of travelers on on my way you just got stuck in one area and married children, and then the travel was done. So that's very likely to happen. In my case sort of. Yeah I. This big longing in this big to see the entire world, and once I got into their everyday life at one place. I knew. Okay. Now it's time to move on and even though if I left the place, I love the people I said, I K- I could always come back but I just want to see the next place now it's slowed us this. this adventurous explorer. Myself. That was always pushing me to the next place and Ben Again. because. I was going around the world without a plane I was also dependent on the sailing seasons. So once I got to South America, I knew I had about one year for the entire. Continent otherwise, I would miss the sailing opportunity for the Pacific Ocean, which is just a very narrow weather window of about February to May. But then that's it if you if you don't. Get. Get on your way by that time than you might just as well. Wait another year. With which I thought is probably not the wisest. Since my mother so. Already awaiting and saying okay, Christopher Dodd take too long. All right right right don't they don't take longer than four years Christopher come on enforce force where she draws the line right? Sleet fluff to draw the line at one year old. Yeah interest is so you mentioned a really good point here where you said, you know when I started to feel like it became day to day. That's when I felt like I should move on woods air. Something that. Specific thing. No matter where you were in the world that that kind of triggered that like, Oh, I know when this is happening, this makes me feel like it's time to move on. So the longer and the more you travel the faster, you get to this point because you'd really get into the habit of building up a whole new life at in home new place faster and faster finding a job finding a place to stay meeting all the people around they're getting to know the culture learning the language also, and all that do certain degree and usually set at the very beginning it would take me almost a one to two months to really get into that. Feeling, and later on I would just need about two weeks. To feel like bear. Sometimes, even less depending on the area that you're in. You're seeing. So so it started happening you started getting more like ready to go more antsy quicker. The longer that you traveled where 'cause you felt like you could kind of get into a culture and understand and see it a bit and feel like a little bit under the surface you able to do that quicker because you had traveled more. Yeah. So at the very beginning would say for the entire first year, I only learned how to actually travel doing all this with a visa and. Gave, adapting to certain areas where how do you find a place to say how to find some work and all that and after but one year I got most of the tricks and with with that in my back I could be I could adapt to certain places much faster and I could focus on the people in the culture and then later on actually I would I would say if I have. To sum up the whole four years in the first year I mainly learned about travelling than in the second year I learned a lot about the country and the people and and then at the third year diskette. So much of a routine that I started to learn a lot about myself because I was being millet by the people of the places that you get to as some things tend to repeat itself. And then in the foster year I started to be able to also let others participate in all these experiences and then I started also writing the book and all that So. It just this a rough overview. That is a that's a really interesting way to sum it up and I, think that. I will echo a lot of people who've come on the show and talked about you know whether it be trying to build a business traveling or traveling full-time and said like the first year or roughly around that timeframe, you're just learning how to travel like learning how to full time travel is a fulltime job. and. It's something you have to learn like you said, the tips and tricks you have to figure it out and. You'll get better at it as you do it more and more and more, and then all of a sudden wants you are better at then you can start adding stuff in like you mentioned. Yeah. And they they have a saying in gem. And Fungus via every beginning is very hard. And that's certainly holds to true for travel as well. Troubling on a low budget at least. Yeah what place did you spend the most time in where there specific places that you were in for longer than others? I spent almost half a year and Korea that was because I wanted to learn the language and was also placed to stock up a little bit on my budget again. After crossing the entire ocean with all these Pacific islands, you cannot really worked there. And before that, because I needed to wait for the sailing time for Korea also spend about five months on the Philippines and working there forty degrees in the sun grinding down or fiberglass deck of the boat because we wanted to renew the whole teak and all that the would and that was really dirt up and I did that for about two dollars an hour at forty degrees in the direct sun without any shape that was incredible. So once I got to Korea I said Okay I'm GonNa, avoid these jobs from a little bit. At least shop I'm so in Korea work to Gulf Shoe model because they've got these smart shoes that measure your weight and I, and they want to sell these to the Western markets. So they need some European of American looking people and. That's perfectly said, then I actually got more and more into advertisement I also. Take starter trailer for a backpack and all that, and then later on to medical study for Growth Allman. Okay. On, the with the markets as well. All this was in Korea. All that wasn't career. Yeah. Stuff like that. Yes. So you went from who could give a job like that you went from sitting there basically grinding down the deck of a boat in crazy heat no shade two dollars an hour to get into hang out and be a golf Shumar. I mean that's a pretty big upgrade in my book. It was I said was was. Phenomenal. Actually that Gulf cars at that place where we are, how do you call that Gulf Gulf like a course where you play golf yeah. Exactly so that that field where we played was owned by some soon ended lg because the startup owned by some soon and into whole year that was the were just a handful of families playing on the golf course and the member should just to entry was eight, hundred, thousand dollars. And we were able to play a magister for for the advertisement. So that was phenomenal. Nice. All right. So one of the things you're you're talking about is is getting money right and making money because you started with fifty dollars in your pocket. So you obviously there's two ways to do it right to continue travel like you have to do it really cheap but even if you do it, really cheap fifty dollars is only going to go so far. So how did you? Let's go back to the very beginning of this story I you show this in the video that you shot like you started outside of your house and you had fifty dollars in your pocket what? How that fifty dollars get you. When did you have to I tap into our I'm GONNA have to work and make some money. I don't know thirty yet. Done you. I don't know it all know. Okay, it's the the with thirty five of these fifty dollars I got. Into the first night in Amsterdam, so I spent thirty five of my fifty six the very first spotted on. Saddam. That was crazy. Foreign hobble strive from well if so with a got my backpack and in the morning time and went into the road and thudded hitchhiking away and then in the evening time. approaching dawn I reached Amsterdam with the Swedish couple. Then they were doing a road trip through Europe and saying Christopher come on this is Amsterdam we need to explore the streets in the city and the nightlife are you in an a sets our rights Count on me. and. So I was allowed to leave a backpack in the car and then we went on through well lit streets at night Amsterdam walking down this Old Road with this nice pavement and beautiful bars on the left on on the riot and golden signs saying something like beer for dollar fifty. And I was thinking Oh my these prizes. That's so expensive and the Swedish couple and you know they have very high alcohol. Texan Sweden, they were looking at this price and saying Oh that still cheap come on. Let's get a drink here. And then pulling me in and altering three drinks and I was only nipping a little bit on my drink to to not be too quickly brats the chew Swedish guys with. The girl, the guy sort of drank that in in one sip just away and then all at the next three ones and analysis and telling them. Okay. You know this may not be the right place for me maybe and they say, okay, we know exactly what you mean let's go into a coffee shop. And we wanted to coffee shop and the even got that way and in the next money I woke up and the car. It was about nine a m. I. The the car Dr to some Aaron and reach out to a water bottle. Somewhere in the front of the car and took a few sips and then. RUPP my hat because they had such a strong headache and hangover. and. Then was thinking what the heck happened. I can't even remember than rich into my pocket and was counting how how much have left and it was just fifteen crit. Travel Summer. So before it's. It's GonNa do it but I'm such an idiot. And Yeah. Really curious myself having been bet dumb on the very first night five bucks. My fifty bucks. So how should I continue should I call my mom and tell her from? Jumping back, just a weekend trip you. then. I realized they had a small sheet of paper in my pocket with an address on that and I remembered that there was A. Young Spanish guy in front of one of these clubs who told me if you want to do the same job, just go to this address and apply method. Okay. Maybe I could try this and then I went to his address. And there were people there. That could immediately have a job interview and then I was working for one month as a party to guide in Amsterdam. And this guy who gave me the address than happened to become my flatmate and he was gay and on ecstasy at the time when he gave me the address and was thinking I'm an angel. And this gave me the address he wanted to work with an angel at least. So I don't know that that wild. Yeah. So you're working as a party tour guide. Within basically, twenty four hours or whatever two days less than two days of leaving your house in Germany. Exactly. If, let's start destroyed over again, I would probably do a few things. That's the way others though that that's the beauty of travel to right you. You can't recreate it right you can't recreate what that happens. You just go with the flow. So. Then you start taking a job and obviously you knew you were going to have to work at some point what were then some of the other interesting jobs that you had I mean I don't know if anything tops a golf shoe model but maybe I haven't heard him. Ah, what other cool fun interesting things did you do in those for years? Mining gold in the jungle in English. Guyana. In South America and days off into the jungle where no roads. goes. So that was really at a very, very special area and actually, I get enough goals to when I got back and got marriage, make my own wedding ring out of it and my wife's too. So that was. Kind of Nice with this river gold. At. Fortunately bats ourselves. Yeah and another job was selling fruit out at the beach in Rio de Janeiro and I was also working as a petrol by in Peru Nelson. Funny. All the cab drivers. To Stop Bide see this German, there I'm having this gentleman. Traveller fill up their cars. And I was looking in the Panama. Canal. Line handler because at the skates when a let the water in and out, you have royal pools or whirlwinds starting in the water that would actually draw the boats onto the decide to the wall, and they would crash and to prevent that you have to secure the boats in every direction with lines and the people pulling in these lines giving them out I called line handlers so I did that. A couple of times and also swam in the Panama Canal. And that crocodiles on there by the way. The got to lake. I didn't meet run the while swimming. So so how are you finding all these jobs? Them was it just? The same thing that happened your first night where you just went out and someone said, Hey, if you WANNA do this. By the way, go down here and go ask for a job or did you kind of come up with a system where you would go to a certain country and find gigs? So if there is one fundamental principle to all of this, then it's people. So you cannot really do anything without people probably in the Western countries where you've got craigslist and all that you can give that a shot. That's. How I found a few jobs in Korea. But most of them I found. Actually, also through people. So the the Gulf shoe thing. I actually wanted to work as an English gem teacher in Korea. Even, though you can clearly tell I'm not. I'm not a native English speaker. The looks good enough for them that I count mate speaker. That's funny over there. So. I had a Korean friend and she forwarded my email to a few other friends, and then later I got back an email playing. Do you are we don't need an English teacher and I had a few pictures attach but can you play any golf and I thought why do they want to know if I can play any Gulf? Actually, I never really did that in my life only mini goal. And then I wrote them back. Sorry I've played gold Gulf in my life but I still interested in English teacher perhaps. And then I get a message back and they said it's no no English teacher but we talked about it. You don't need to play golf you just need to look like it so. I said Okay and then we had this this deal. And in Venezuela, for example. I got to cody apple, which is at the very eastern parts also, very art and the the jong-il sort of the the last small city. That, you have before you only get to their native villages because was living there with. The native South Americans the Indians for some time as well and I wanted to go there. So I was I was in this last village before that. Equity Apple and. Della I met a guy who was renovating the bathrooms of the military in Venezuela. And they will only with two people and the other one got sick. So I just ask if I could join them and help them that sort of developed in the conversation. And then I ended up renovating the bathrooms of the military. Venezuela. Also, the soldiers coming in from time to time to take a few pictures of that. So. It's really funny. So yeah, for you it was all about just making these connections because and that would make sense right? You come into an area you have your new you don't know anyone you make a few connections and if you're willing to do something, then you know a lot of examples there's position if exactly if you're willing to do almost anything and you're at, say willing to learn and motivated. And willing to also work for low price than almost everywhere opportunities follow up and the more people you talk to the mall opportunities you will have, and usually the best open for combs -ation is just a question asking way. Just, direction or whatever and people. Especially, when they see you not from there, you've got this huge backpack carrying around with you know that they want to know what you're doing here especially when you're traveling off the beaten path because. So for example, in Brazil, I've been to town Santa it's called, which was pretty amazing estate there for about months and I was also helping constructing a church there and that that was sort of working in the construction, Darren. And for me that place was very important because as sort of my own spiritual. Journey, becoming more and more of a Christian there. It's especially that place. but in into Santa the last time they had to white guy and they'll was fifty years ago. I was the first one there since fifty years coming from the outside and so actually every day someone wanted to invite me for lunch just to to to talk to a stranger like this because the people have the opportunity to go out and travel themselves. So they WANNA know everything about it from you. And are willing to pay a meal. That especially in Brazil that people have very friendly. The food is very good and they're so so nice and welcoming yet use I think I saw somewhere that you learned a few languages while you were on the road to you mentioned wanting to stay in Korea so that you could learn the language what languages did you speak when you laughed and then what ones did you learn why you're on the road? So. I think in America Europeans are known to usually speak a couple of. But when I left I was bad European. I only spoke German English and had studied five years of Latin at school. But then. When I started, I learned about five hundred words of Spanish. And then once I got to Spain. A quickly adopted the language and learn Spanish and then I was working on an Italian sailing yacht and Latin Spanish and Italian. That, different they are different but. There is some words that I've pretty similar especially in the basic vocabulary. So it was way easier to learn Italian after I had learned Spanish already. and. Then in the three months working on that you tell selling learn. Spanish and then at Italian. Sorry and then in South America, improve my Spanish and Brazil learn Portuguese and then later on Korean. and. A few words and phrases in. A lot of other different languages like Fijian Bruna How are you hey and set tickle really good how you? And I don't know these things. Yeah. So did you set out to learn languages because that is something that opens up a lot of And I think I think that a lot of people want to act so did you plan on that? When were going to go on this journey of of at least maybe one or two? That I had to learn Spanish to really enjoy traveling through. South America although wise this would have been very difficult to do because. The only very few of the people there speak English and you have far greater traveling experience if you speak the language and then again I realized that the language is the key to the heart of the people. So like sat people sort of the key to traveling, and then if the language the key to the heart of the people and the culture as well to just understand the mindset there as well. you really need to. Do, whatever we can to learn the language as quick as possible, and you never know how long you gonNA stay. So you stood started right at the very beginning even if you think you only gonNA stay for two weeks, you might end up staying half a year. At that area then it's definitely worth. Worth having started from the very beginning on. Yeah. One of the big things that you did obviously when you look at a map of of your round, the world trip is the oceans and you talked about this a little bit wanting to go across the oceans but you know not wanting to take a plane or not or thinking you might. Take a plane and then you were able to do that. So walk us through how this came about how you ended up quote unquote hitchhiking across the. Oceans. So at first when it started in Europe I already had this big dream of crossing a big ocean and then when I got to. Spain I was smoking on a hall stretch there and meeting a retired. Eighty three year old sailing teacher. who had told plans and he was saying Christopher you're so lucky because the sailing season just coming up. In about a month or so. So you could go to ut Proto and do your best, and then I said. But VILLI I am not really able. To say, I've never done that in my life said on worry I will teach you a little bit. And gives me as old sailing bricks and then we had sort of. Drive theory for about two months well, in my in my free time. He must retired at time that was really amazing and then I went to. Gibraltar and Villi that he was said actually gentleman but retiring to Spain and spending their the rest of his life and. That he told me that a good skipper so soft the cat enough abode would value a great attitude more than experience, which is sort of true. Because when you spend a long time on an ocean with another person, you WanNa get along very well, and if you don't, it's probably not worth. Breath spending the time together so. To make it an adjustable experience you really have to connect. and. So in Gibraltar, even though a never sailed before I was walking around the docks and knocking on the boats and saying, hello, are you probably crossing the Atlantic Ocean and still meet a few hands to help you? And, the people said, no, we are full. We don't need anyone but then one of them said, maybe you should go to the Italian Bodo there and try your best because this Italian man and his wife they are waiting for friends to come but apparently, they haven't come in a few weeks. So I went there and talk with them and they said, yes, I had my working colleague who wanted to come. But he couldn't get free of work and the other one I wanted to come because he had difficulties in his marriage but now apparently they're getting along very well again. So. Working again sees not coming so bad. That okay. Good for him. And put some Roosevelt because then he said, okay, let's do the journey together and in my heart I was already celebrating and jumping around and for this great opportunity lying hat and then he said, but let's not do two quake. Let's have tests sailing from here to the Canary Islands that's about five days. and. If that turns out to be good than. Real. Continue. And then I. Said Okay but if it won't turn out to be good at. What happens then said, okay then you stay on the island and just continually. Without. Alice motivated sure. Sure. And like this, I learnt sailing pretty quick and this even though he was Italian, I think he was the old conservative Mussolini. I Dunno disciple. I almost said. He really loved my German straightness and. Punctuality and delinquency and all this. Yeah So that that went obviously the trip to Canary Islands went while you didn't get left there. Then how long did it take to to cross the Atlantic? Yeah, so that was. Twenty eight days in total five days to the Canary Islands than another seven days to the Cape Verde Islands and then sixteen more days to the Caribbean till we get to Granado then later the Pacific is even greater than that took US thirty one entire day. So one entire month to cross from Panama to the next islands, which is French Polynesia Polynesia. and. So for thirty one days there, we didn't see any land is just the ocean, the boat and the crew. And a longtime you start to get a little bit hostile towards each other. Sometimes. If you know that that's actually that's part of the deal, it's normal if you know. Your. Good. But if you are not prepared for that and it can get a little bit uncomfortable. What was it tough for you either the first trip or the one across the Pacific were either of those tough having never spent that much time on a boat before did you did you start to feel a little like that? You're a little crazy while sick physically seasick or just like oh my gosh, this is a long journey like this is this is tough. It's sure helped that I was so excited for all this great experience and a dream coming. True. At I sort of. Adult with all the other things that were unpleasant but. Once I started this trip because the wife of the telling guy was from talent and she was seasick the whole time we were basically just two people steering the boat and I wasn't really aware that. you actually you need for twenty four hours always at least one person who's on Dak and taking care of the boat and that you're not running into other boats. When the windass changing that you're also just think the sales and all that and that you're. Keeping the cars and the right direction. And Since, we were just two persons. We did two hour shifts. So it was they tell them captain to me two hours than he two hours the metoo arson. He me and for five days straight at the first three days I hardly got any sleep at all and then afterwards and actually tried to do a little bit longer because I thought probably if I just extend my shift to four or five hours than probably the Italian might do the same but he didn't. I ended up just to watch us that. And yes. So that that was really tough Ben I remember probably the third of the for for night I was just looking at this tiny red led light on the commerce while the whole bow to sue going from one side to now that enrolling really much it's especially near the Strait of Gibraltar the waves are very now or to each other and pretty high spell. So the boat is rolling like thirty. Degrees from the one side to that decrease to the other side. It's really rocking and rolling lot and I was just looking at this tiny red Alexander Campos and the outside is pitch black and dark and just sometime in the morning probably the moon is going to rise up and Yeah and in between that I saw I don't know creatures whatever almost because I was just so so done it so exhausted. So yeah that was. That was difficult part. Now that I'm looking at with plenty especially because you had never had never spent any time really on a boat, right? So to go from that from yeah you know I kind of know what I'm doing because I, read it in a book to then being the one who's in charge for hours on end in the middle of the Atlantic. Ocean You've also got the bioluminescence Bateria and all this. So when it's when it's very dark time beyond the bowed, you've got this shiver of glow behind is almost like. Sparkling when you're hitting. Maybe a knife and as a blacksmith that is glowing and all these sparks go away. It almost looks like this in blue behind the boat at nighttime. It's incredible. It's so it's so beautiful. So there definitely is a lot of beauty and doing that. That's that was for sure. Helping me to keep my motivation. and. Yeah. I also very lucky that I wasn't seasick because. Usually. The most personal seasick for the first three days, and then your body starts to adapt to the whole movement and because I was sick. For the entire time from the very beginning on than the telling guy said, okay. So you're going to do the cooking so we won't have a few more pieces than the soup. Might. Help us and then I did that and I made some good German food with potato and sausages and all that, and then they get to me he and his wife and said Christopher, can you also cook something? Nice. Oh Like Kevin. Pasta and all that Salata. Okay and the they taught me how to do that but I would ask. Someone Pride. Everyone has to be humbled at some point right if if if you didn't get seasick at humble you the other way by by getting on your German food so you met. You met your wife during this trip who is now your wife? Obviously, she wasn't right. But that point how long did the trip was that and where did you meet? So. About two years into my travel when I was on the PHYCHI and islands in the middle of the Pacific. I. Actually, that was also. Pray I had now become lot more Christian than I was before I was thinking maybe I should. Probably, not do this triple just entirely for myself, and this might be a little selfish I should probably also let others participate and then right maybe at least a book about the journey. And I had written diary until that point and because I was On, a boat with. Belgium guy who was intending to write a book. And you. He had told me that you need to have heard of story at least for about five times until you're willing to pay for book about this story because I knew that I was thinking okay if I if I will put all this effort into writing a book, I should probably also put some effort into marketing. and. Then votes it Jim in a new company. Hey, I'm Christopher I'm here in the middle of the Pacific right now so have. You started in Germany two years ago with just fifty bucks. Probably read an article with me and they can soar. And then that was the first speak article being published about my trip and that got shared a couple of thousand times on facebook and all that and. German student in my gone. Sir in the west of Germany. Read this article and Some O. felt very strange while reading it just like I would. Probably, Pail play a role in life. Actually, you can look the whole story up. On Youtube we get we made A. Let's say sort of small movie for that for our wedding about this with English subtitles at least. So she felt strange and then started riding me. And she was one of about thirty to forty people who are really. Things and she's just that says something like Oh. It's great what you're doing I like that and just said, thank you greetings from the Philippines. Show message back but then some we get into conduct with each other and start to bond very well and says. Yeah, we ended up writing for fifteen months straight almost every day and it's really escalated movie of writing. pages of the pages of the pages to each other because that was almost like a soul mate. But we had never seen each other before it was so crazy when you feel. Like you you've really liked the person you really connect so but you've never. Seen this person in your entire life. So you. We, we didn't know what this was because. When you haven't seen each other, you don't know if that's sort of real and if. You match. Face to face. So after fifteen months, she said, what can I meet you and I said I still need a little bit more time until I'm become maybe you should come my way and then she said, okay. But India the your next sister nation I'm going to book a flight to Mumbai to Bombay and I serious. I'm. Serious. The first of April, I'm going to land in Bombay and I said no way I will April you that's cheating. Cowan. She said. So I told a no seriously I serious about this and she said, okay, you need to find out. Tank okay. So. The first of April. To make more way to Bombay and when they're to the upper end she did come. And we met each other for the first time just drank a coffee together and over this that was an incredible moment seeing this person that I've known for such a long time but sort of haven't known because I saw for the first time. That was really incredible. Oh, I still remember that that was very intense. Wow Yeah, and so then did she continue on net with your journey? Like did you did you all travel together then or did she have to go back to Germany and then you kept traveling? So we we ended up traveling together for about two weeks and got into relationship at that time, and then she went back because she had to continue her studies in Europe and then I made my way. Back to Pakistan and Iran within about three weeks. Three months timeframe back to Europe and then already half a year. Later I propose to her because say just found that the skull was so phenomenal. I never had expected to find someone like her and. Then one and a half years ago, we got married and it's so. I would have never imagined studying on the trip through forty five different countries on my own as a single, and then coming back with the chairman. Right especially, because you didn't meet her out on the road like she wasn't another traveller who just happened to. Yeah Yeah. You left Germany and went all around the world so that you could meet someone on the Internet. which. Is Pretty Amazing. Did you did you then pick up the pace of your trip a little bit like was that one of the reasons why you decided to finish up your your travels or had you already had it in your head? That you were going to have a timeframe or a date where you were going to go back home. So I didn't really have a certain timeframe date exactly or particularly in my mind but already when I got to Southeast Asia. A new set of now. It's now it's time to go back and I might take another half a year for that. But then three months later was in India and then we get together and now had another reason more. To continue on this plan. And execute on what what was it about being in Southeast Asia than that. You said, all right like this is starting to come to an end or I'm starting to see maybe the end of this. For some people listening they're like, Oh, well, you only had. Six more months. That's a lifetime of travel for some people. But for you, you had been doing it for three and a half years. So you on the downslope. All right. This is going to end. What was it just? Like okay. I've kind of done. This I've seen a lot. I'm ready to go back to that life or or was it monetary? What were the things that were pointing you to calling this trip? To finishing it up. Settling not monetary. because. Yes. But It was all the projects and the plans that had because my focus in life had shifted during that time like I said at the very beginning I was sort of doing this for myself and traveling. With the goal of doing this whole world trip and then within my travel also then with with becoming more Christian and all that I. Also had this longing to spend my energy for other people and all these visuals and projects how it could do that when I'm back in Germany. And this this was the major driver and then. Also if you read the books, you can sort of relate onto this Also without wanting to sound too spiritual to blown off here. But how I was sort of at the being been helped the guided through this trip it sought for me. It felt like, I, was on the hand of. Somebody, greater than me. And who was helping me through through this all yet almost through these pathways. Before me and then in. South East Asia. Everything sort of responding. To home. and. It was a couple things when you read my book. Explained that they're in detail but A. Lot of. I. It sounds so stupid when I just say it in a few sentences like signs funding into one direction, it really sounds so as Terek. Spent three and a half years four years doing this like you're pretty in tune with. With what you? What was going on inside your head right and probably more. So than most people who are at home in like day to day life is just normal, right? It's kind of standard and you do your thing and you're not really having to think about a lot or question yourself or question other stuff happening. But when you're out on the road and especially when you're out as long as you are, you really do become very in tune. With yourself and your feelings, and so I think that you probably just at a point where like I know myself really well at this point like and this is just this season of life has has starting to come to an end for me. Yeah. It was also sort of like an. Like an outside guide, and so I mean as a Christian, Christians belief that the whole point about this religion is the relationship with God himself through Jesus and then you're also when when you have this relationship, you also start to feel that there's This really Beckon Fath- and within that certainly there was. Yeah. There was there was a part of me that was drawn to that direction but then during my entire trip sometime, stores would open up and other would close and I. It's sort of like flow. You're sitting in a river and it's just the whole river is going. To make a left turn and. There's no point in trying to go right just better. We left turn and so that was how it felt like that when a lot of opportunities out map into direction and it feels Very easy to go that way and. which which which doesn't mean. Only from the outside circumstances but also from. From. Yeah. Inner feeling. During it's it's hard to explain that. Without Sunning to yeah to blown off with that, that makes a Lotta sense and. When you travel again, because this is what's interesting to me is this a huge part of your life, right? It's four years obviously had a major impact on you on your faith on You know you've found your wife obviously, there was a thousand other things that changed in you over these four years that made you into the person. You are today what you're kind of your thoughts on travel now like is it still something that you're pushing to do more of or like what is it like? What role is it playing in your life now because it is such, that's four years is a long long long long time especially in someone who? At this point, you're like twenty. So there's a huge chunk your life. So where does it? Where does it live now? What kind of role does it play? Traveling. So it's like meeting a new friend. So at the very beginning you sort of get to know each other and then later on you. Get, yeah you know each other very well, and even though if it takes if you don't probably see each other for a year or two still when you meet again, it's very familiar. So that's the same with traveling me. It's it's like eating an old friend. Who I know very well and I Yeah I still love it and I think that traveling probably the best antidote to prejudices. Because we tend to even if we don't want to admit that. We tend to have lot of prejudice to are just the lack of understanding for other people in other cultures. And Traveling helps with that at the same time gives you some of the greatest treasures and beautiful experience on earth, which is also and primarily the encounter with people from different places and I have I would say, I've got family all over the world right now which for me then again would be at the. The primary incentive right now to continue traveling just to meet all these beautiful people again. Yeah Yeah. Go make new friends meet old friends. And get to really just be out there among people. So the. So then for you, you've spent a Lotta time traveling and done a lot of travels I want to ask you about your biggest travel mishap. Whether this be something like a situation that you got yourself into by doing something you know dumb or whether it be a situation that that you know you found yourself. Do you have a story that you think like you know fifty years from now you're still going to be telling because it sticks out in your mind is one of these great travel stories. yeah. Well, I miss up. You Mean I. Actually, I wouldn't want to tell that story. This is why I wrote a book because telling it's really the most embarrassing story of my whole life. I never had such an embarrassing would kate an occasion like that one. So I really don't WanNa tell that genuine, but I will. An. Okay. Let's. So when when I get to Peru I was surrounded with the friend. Of there and working colleague had died just days before or so. So they had this before the funeral you've sort of have this. Yeah. This this this opportunity where everybody can come to say goodbye to the. to the dead person was already in UH sacrifice now in the cash. Out with the casket, tell me with some. Appropriately. So they have this. occasionally, I'll do you know what's that cold? Yelich viewing usually we'll say in the US straight perfect viewing. So, that this viewing and we so we went there in the evening. To this viewing and enter this small hall with the. Just. A job also a lot of stone on the floor and then. It was already feeling little bit cold, but then in the middle of the Saul was. the person with a lot of flowers. Little bit lifted up. And everybody could come there and in the room whereabout eighty people and they had a few snacks on the side. Everybody was chatting quietly with each other. The, husband of the person who died sending right next to. The Pasta way woman. So we went there and said our canola sense. And then sit down at the side and has I think small snack and to whole feeling in the whole atmosphere was sort of so depressing. So I've ever really felt so sorry. And at that point, I was already I had already started reading a bit in the Bible. So I picked out my small pocket Bible from. From trouser say just had it in there. And as of thereto a little bit too I, thought might be interesting to find if there's something fitting to such a situation whatever. Because they say you can find comfort in their in whatever said just was flipping through the pages and then. Reading. And interesting spot right now when the the hospital. Approached me and. Then saying if if I got something for him that I could I could tell him. So I read that verse him. Because I thought probably that's that's fitting and maybe that will cheer him. Jim. Luke it. And then he was nodding. And leaving again and I was happy to have been of some help at least. And then. The children of him came to me and said Humanity repeating that. once again in in in in small time and I said sure why not? And nothing of anything bad and then. All the people in the room started to come together and. Foam. Around the the debt woman and. I was thinking okay. Maybe someone who's GonNa hold yes I'm some sort of. Saying. Here's a ration-. And but no speak I would come. Everybody was just looking at me. And then I realized Oh Dang I probably have mistaken with some sort of missionary. I don't know what's happening here, and but now that everybody at come together. Soda K. For Bats. Discipline. Because they I mean everybody's so sad already. Make it worse and what what bad could happen I just need to get up say a few words probably Rita that verse again say prey on and that's it. Everybody will be happy and content so I can do that for them. So I got up and as then get into the middle of this crowds right in front of the dead person. And events started. we all have very. good memories with in started to realize. Oh. What's the name again? and. And said it to start the and looking to the flowers of any card where I could read the name and no that was the name. So the only word I could think of in that moment was Lamberto, which is like the dead body. Right I. And? The the Thomas Word you can ever save. Because I didn't have a name. The I said, we all get memories with a bad person. And Yeah sometimes it's hard to take in life and things happen but we don't expect. and. So I, I in my head I was thinking okay. Is Somehow I need to end this Before it began this is horrible and need to go somewhere so. I read the Broza. Let's. Let's pray and then thank you. For having brought together to say goodbye to. Outdo yeah. To, the person. And just made it worse and worse, and it was so horrible. I was feeling so awful like the probably like the captain who smashed the titanic to be, iceberg? It was it was horrible I set the Amen Bender friend. Who brought me bare just looked at me and said we'd better go. And We went away and I felt so bad I probably destroyed like the last memories of this husband. That is tackle. That that was so luckily, you've been the next day I got to know that. Then later they invited the proper place to sort of. Well. You came out of a good place right? You're trying to do something. Good. Yes. So I was missing a little bit of a couple of areas. In telling the story English, but it was awful. It was really never had an embarrassing moment as. I don't know. Rami the I should ask anyone. Applauded the whole It was horrible. Yup. Well, what are you GonNa? Do you were trying to do something nice and it just ended up to be a little awkward and honestly maybe it was even more awkward for you than them right I mean. You know so. It was very oh, maybe it was okay I. Guess Your friend knew. Much yourself in that situation when probably in the future your wife. Dice amend there's this guy that nobody knows and you think, oh, he's probably a priest or whatever. To give a speech. Turns out to be like that. Man Man well, I appreciate you sharing the story because. It's a that's a mishap that exactly what we're talking about with the miss out there. So Christopher I appreciate you coming on. Thanks so much for joining me today in showing everyone out there that you can travel on any budget you start with fifty dollars in your pocket you you blew thirty five right off the bat, the first night right and that relying on kindness and generosity of others is the best way one of the best ways to travel and you certainly saw that come up over and over and over and over again you travels Sir remind people one more time. Where should they go to find you to grab the book where how can they get a hold of you? Okay. So if you just go on Amazon, you can get the kindle version, the paper bag or the audiobook angie can you should probably check out my Youtube Account Christopher shaft? No, it's very difficult to spell. It's S. C. H. A. C. H. T., and the book is called around the world on fifty bucks her left with little and returned a rich man and of course, rich meaning rich in relationships and all the people who are met and also different perspective on life. Yeah. Very, cool, and we will link everything up in the show. Yeah Christopher said might be harder to spell his last name. That's fine. You can go to the show notes extra pack of peanuts dot com slash shows will link everything up link-up. His book will link up the Youtube Channel and all that good stuff as well. So you can find that their extra packing peanuts dot com slash shows thanks again, Christopher I. Really appreciate you taking the time to come on tell us about your experience in about your journey. Because it's one that's worth telling. So thank you so much. Travis was a great time. Thank you so much even though we started off with the. With the mishap that's right. So we ended. On the mishap but that's the bad everyone's going to have mishaps. If you're out there traveling, you're gonNA have mishaps at some point or another. Especially, if you're you know if you're sitting there doing a eulogy. In a different language I mean. Listen you tried your best. That's all anyone could ask for so crisper. Thanks so much everyone who's listening. Yeah thank you for tuning in today for your continued support. It makes us number one rated travel podcast and until next time run. Happy free travels. Our. Him.

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Journal Club: A New Path to Antibiotic Resistance

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17:12 min | 10 months ago

Journal Club: A New Path to Antibiotic Resistance

"Hello and welcome to the a Sixteen Journal club I'm Lauren Richardson this is podcasts where we cover recent scientific advances why they matter and how to take them from proof of principle to practice. Antibiotic Resistance is an urgent problem, but many aspects of how bacteria acquired this ability to evade the drugs designed to target them. The steriods and is not always clear whether the conditions that drive the evolution of resistance in the lab occur in patients suffering from bacterial infections. This is where the work of Natalie, Balabagn a professor at the Hebrew University and my guest. Today comes in. She joins me to discuss her article published in science titled Effective Tolerance on the evolution of antibiotic resistance under drug combinations. The work is based off of previous research done in her laboratory and importantly uses samples from a patient with a life, threatening bacterial infection to understand the conditions that lead to multi-drug resistance in a hospital setting. The work reveals how the ability of bacteria to develop tolerance, which we also refer to as dormancy or slow growth can act as a steppingstone to assistance and can. With the efficacy of drug combinations. Our conversation covers what tolerance is the conditions that promote tolerance how it leads to resistance and impacts, drug combination therapies, and lastly integrating this new understanding into clinical microbiology protocols years our conversation. How. Would you describe the big question that this work had to address what we are seeing on? Their other medications are occurring before when but cer exposed to onto badly, actually promoting the fixation of resistance mutation, and this will typically go completely undetected, because they don't really unfair resistance, but they are making the resistance mutation. Develop a much easier so their mutations that happened before resistance is developing that promote resistance exactly, and then we found that it was more general that that was not only mutation because a behavior of Bardiya. Can Be concerned by mutation, but can those from third by external edition, this behavior of his ability to become domains old more slower in wants to enter the state of. Dormancy all slow gross, it turns out that they have the ability to become resistance too much higher rates than if they don't have dissipated. Okay the bacteria they become dormant, either through a change of their Gino type, or just a change to their phenotype. So. How does becoming dormant allow them to become resistant? So at the beginning? It's counter intuitive right because if you don't mind, then you work eight less than if you reputation this, you wireless mutations right. Because our bags actually became Dolan's. That ability is not acting upon them, as it should act and therefore this bud's. Just survived not days not able to growing the presence of into. Survived man I still a few hours after the betty treatment. Concentration goes down very much. Embedded heads wt to the disturbances grind again now they can acquire resistant mutations that are typically very to wire, and now the bacterial kyong glitzy resistant to the treatment. Let me see if I've got the so antibiotic usually target bacteria that are actively dividing, and when they're in the storm at state, all of a sudden now they're not affected by the antibiotics, because they're not growing, and then once the concentration of antibiotic in the environment is Dow now. They have this ability to grow. And since they were exposed to the antibiotic, they will acquire resistance to it and now when you put the antibiotic back maybe the next day. When you have your second dose, it's too late. The bugs already have the resistance mutation, and now they don't have to be dormant now. They can actively divide and. Exactly which we see the is tone has promoted resistance in places where we would not expect resistant to. Treatment retains. That we've developed to prevent resistance. Can actually aiding the development of tolerance. which can then lead to the development of resistance? You get that way. Set of conditions that lead to bacteria becoming tolerant that resistant. Omega guests is a bad name. Golden factor here is Immuno suppression of the patient, so if you have a very good immune system. Than even if the antibiotic locating older bacteria in some domain, but Jeremy still lingering on their old slowly grind, will take care of them. Aiding digs infection should not be so long to allow this kind of promotion tool here. In Beijing the Immuno compromised. The conditions are onto. The promoting is civil. Start resistance, allowing these mutation to accumulate in the book jam in the host. Antibiotics can only target growing south. Systems can target non girling cells so that your immune system is working well, it doesn't matter if the bacteria are growing or not will still be able to recognize, describe it. It's in cases where people don't have a really active immune system that the bacteria able to invade developed this dormancy phase that's not being hit by the antibiotics and the steppingstone to persistent. Yes. And so you know when we talk about unto Boutiques old them. But we forget that the route of the magic is actually our immune system right, and if you're trying to use antibiotics to eradicate conviction with immune system you're. At a really good point, and so this understanding came from experiment that we didn't theaters in the lobby of these dormancy mutation, which would bill Doran Shannon is actually acting as a stepping stone, while that was issued off resistant mutations, and if you think away disability to become doctrines, it would never ever resistance so after dispersed series of work in the lab environmentally controlled completely. We wanted to know. Whether similar effects were going on patience. And this is were we acquired from patients were hospitalized under life threatening blood infection. So we should say that the infection was Mersa infections, so that's a methicillin resistant staphylococcus Aureus, so what we commonly known as drug resistant staff, so they knew from the jump that bacteria was going to be hard to treat. It already had drug resistance. To one drug and the doctors started taking samples before any treatment actually happened and then be following. And then you were able to repatriate that in your lab setting I WANNA get a little bit deeper into what you saw on the patient apples in terms of the treatment regime, and then what you learn for recapitulating that treatment regime in the lab. Working, close collaboration with Dr, Mosquito Mayo is an infectious disease doctor, and we use exactly the treatment that was keeping to the same patients in the lab, and we could reproduce actually Coluna generic pass to Iran, mutation, and then tour resistant. When, the same drug regime was administered. Actually the story was more complicated. Now. What happened is that the initial GREIG regime was up to the promoting dissolution thorens right, and then afterwards. What happens is that as they showed not? The bacteria were not dying whether or not they change the drag to dis- combination to drugs where on administered in the patients, but it was too late, because once sorta runs, his bull under the first meant having district nomination was not put any more because ruins was missing Iran's distraught from the nation at the end of the day. The bacteria funds yet another way to surprise on an to evolve resists notre singer drive even when to drugs were. Minister! The drug combination work is really interesting here in just another wrinkle to the study so. You knew the treatment regime that the person received wasn't successful, and that led to this kind of persistent infection, and that now that you've studied the effect of those drug combinations in vitro. What did you learn about how the drug combinations worked? So when we went back with descended stunning to the lab, than we expanded to also other bacteria another combinations. In what we see. Is that the specific drug interactions? Are actually very good. Ed's blocking the of resistance, but once you have these mutations. Bormann's is another ball game right so combination that were significative vitro before up turning up to the instead of rocking devolution representative promote. It means that in order to pick up the right combination for the vision to your rating, you need more information on the bacteria that are in the fiction. If your doctor and you have discovered that your patient, their infection is now tolerant, so not risk tolerant. What can they do? What's kind of the suite of treatments that they should pursue? As died line a few hands. A Vision that is even suppress gives a combination even before rents over all, and then the combination prevents US resistance Vogel. JATO guideline is okay. You have a patient than you didn't sketch out a dime that detours immunosuppressed now. Historic runs this attractively attractively. You now to a different for the nation that these actually able to kill this. They. Don't certain antibiotics not lot of that certain antibiotics. Actually able to kill, but even if they don't grow. So these are the combination that you want two years. So. How do you think about integrating this new knowledge of how tolerance of all and its impact on resistance into clinical protocol or into local micro biology? So, severely very preliminary work that was done only on a very small number of patients, so clearly needs to be expanded to much larger number of patients also on other infections, but our aim is actually within the books that doctors already have at their disposition. They need to pick up drug combinations, and it's really easy. Task this toolbox. If you ask two different doctors, they would pick different combinations right so there is no clear Russia. For the treatment and what we propose is, that may be the fact that thorough strenuous volve and go completion under the radar in defending. Is actually effective to take into account that may make these choices much more clear and unified among us because for the same infections right. And therefore. One of the first thing that would like to do is a study linking storm. Fennel tied to clean out on. Supervised Thunder and to implement a routine detection store on strains in the Katie, and that we developed this easy torrance detection deaths. It's based on the distribution. So, that's actually should be able. Resign the tools that the Michael Bottle Jellab has to tell the doctors whether the bag the Dell routines actually Toronto. So, it sounds like a similar protocol that's used to determine resistant, so it'd be easy addition to kind of what's already happening in a clinical micro-biology lot. Exactly yeah. Now, that we've talked about the background of tolerance, what happened in this patients what you learn from the research? Let's take a step back and talk about the locations of this research. This study was focused on as we mentioned this one patient with Mersa, but are there. Other pathogens are other types of bacteria that it would be important to think about drug tolerance in the evolution of resumes. Yes so they are but agenda that have been identified already devolution of steroids, such as pseudomonas, Sierra, all kind of that fact, cystic fibrosis spacious, so it's another case where the immune system is not active, enough, and therefore clarence all it's well known also that recurrence you Inari tracking infections develop alliance and would be interesting to see whether it promotes devotional assistance in his box to. Are there other non pathogenic faith conditions that. Were considering. So cancer cells the fact that they going to fennel tip extinct may be much more into the treatment is something that has been done motorbike many other works so accurately. We thought about cancer very early on. It was really clear to us that anti-cancer drugs. Where actually like using antibiotics against the resolved ahead of debut? Right it's. So clearly there? The way to go was to recruit him. To the drug, so to join it thoughts as we have incubated infection between the immune system and the drive. It's quite clear that the concentrates of cancer treatments Israeli something that's okay laws and resistant the bills almost inevitably. Like antibiotics anticancer cancer drugs. Target fast dividing cells, and then target mechanisms that are involved cell division is the cells. Go dormant and stopped eating now. Than the anticancer drugs aren't gonNA work, so there could be kind of a similar understanding where you need to slow the growth of the cells and also have the. Ball to actually targeting and destroying the cell. which seems like it would have really important locations and things like car, T. Therapy, which are training your immune system to target your cancer tencent's yes, so a combination therapy of the immune system Doug. Tinker appears together with the drug that takes the role of the council sits down so that the immune system can do the rest of the worst. Up Yori as would way to think about that. Of course, there are also onto concept drives. That's act on don grimes concepts, but they're US real so much folks correct. If you could have our listeners take away one thing. What is the key take home? Message the work? The key take home message is that there is hope. That by combining basic research in the lab. That is really. In close proximity to what's going on vacations. understanding that should have direct treatments much better. And even tailor. The treatment is a specific bag of civic patience. And? That's it for Journal club this week to recap in the absence of a strong immune system, bacteria can develop tolerance which allows them to survive antibiotic treatment and subsequently evolved drug-resistance. Further work is needed to confirm and extend the results described in this article, but they could be used as the basis for developing a standardized antibiotic prescription practice. Thank you to Natalie for joining me and thank you for listening.

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51: Interview With Claude Ribaux

Rapid Change Matters

50:19 min | 3 years ago

51: Interview With Claude Ribaux

"Welcome to episode. Fifty one of the rapid change matters podcast a conversation with Switzerland-based coach and specialist in active alert had notice Claude Ribaud my name's Howard Cooper. And for over fourteen years. Now, I've been fascinated with helping people to create personal change quickly. But I still come across many who believed that losting personal change has to take a long time consisting of reliving traumas or deep psychological analysis or simply that flawed notion that understanding why you have a problem will somehow make it go away. I'm on a mission to get people who work therapeutically with others to shift their thinking and realized that these beliefs are not written in stone, rapid change can happen. So to help you open up to what's possible. I'm chatting with top therapists and agents of change who were out there getting real results with the real people really quickly. Before we get to the interview, I've got big news. Rapid change works is now running live training events. And you can check out the latest events coming up by visiting rapid change dot works. Where you can also download the free quick to read PDF on five strategies to amplify your clients response along with all the information about this episode and episode still to come now. With the interview today, I'm chatting with Claude repo who has over the last twenty five years conducted more than ten thousand therapy and coaching sessions as well as hundreds of days training whilst today. He specializes in active alert hypnosis, which I'm keen to chat further about today. He has a broad interesting background initially training as a social scientist who ended up in charge of international public health initiatives for the Red Cross. Welcome Claude to this rapid change. Conversation. Welcome. Thank you. Hello. I'm glad to be with you. And I'm really glad to talk about with everyone who is interested in in whatever I do fantastic will really hoping we can jump just straight in. And if you give people a little bit of background about who you are what you do. And and really how you got started with all of this. What what I all? I got started was I did field research in Bangladesh during my studies, it was a postwar society late seventies, seventy seven seventy eight. So it was a society which came out of war read, huge poverty with many problems. But also, wait huge amount of people who were so open to learn as so open to change. So from their relayed started that I got interested in doing something about all that. So that was the kickoff. But during the studies, I didn't really get the tool so the instrument instruments or even not right attitude for change. It took me a talk me another research. I did for alternative trading organizations on how attorney. Handicrafts productions would actually change to life of poor way, female producers, and there I got some good teachers, of course, local people who showed me how things could be changed in. What is was important for change? Where was your transition into more of the stuff that you do now? Yeah. It was not it didn't happen on one day. But one of the key experiences was when I was traveling on a shape during storm, and I was reading a book called therapy and trans by Bandler rank ranger, the founders of NLP, and I was so fascinated by this book. So so taken by this books that by this book that I couldn't even re I didn't even realize that there was a storm. But all the other passengers they were there, and they were they. They I mean, they had huge troubles. Whereas I was so much taken by that. So I thought this is so fascinating that I have to go into this fantastic. So you you coupled yori had an interest, given your your work, and your background your study in change and change management, and suddenly you they're totally absorbed in something that these has paying. Wow, okay. This is fascinating to learn more about this. So so what happened then how did you go about that that learning process? Well, it went step-by-step because I had also an important job which was difficult in self because I was in charge of health and relief programs for south issue from switch out of Switzerland. I had to travel a lot I had this as you can imagine. There was a lot of a lot of politics involved with all that a lot of difficulties in getting things to the people who really need it. It ends. Also, it was very practical. But in all that are really started to be so interested in reading all the books about NLP and different things like solution focused therapy, and all that that and I was reading a lot during the night while I was working in these projects during the day. So that was more. Less the life. And so starting from ninety one probably also started to provide NLP trainings, and I'm curious about this. I mean, now many people will know that you specialize in this thing called active alert hypnosis, could you tell if there are people out there who haven't come across this term before what is actively hypnosis. How'd you describe it so active Alati Pinault's is is a method by which you actually in use? He knows this movement. So while a person is moving let's say, for example, on on bicycle or of course, it's a stable bicycle which you could have in your office, then Riley via moving on that bicycle pedaling new and used trans but the transfer. Of course is not typical relaxation transit is an active trends, it is an alert. France, you can actually compare it to some of the traditional dances like dervishes. And so on they're also in trans in he knows this, but they are not in any way relaxed because they move. So it is actually using this tradition in a very modern way because active alerted Pinault's is actually is not a product of any tradition. It's a product of academia, it came styrofoam from its stems directly from scientific research. So in itself, it is already a scientific biproduct. It was just by accident, more or less. It was developed or identified as a separate method in around nine hundred seventy by Hungarian called Avon yai in Stanford where she was with with a stipend. She was given the opportunity. To do some research on a new type of hypnosis and cheat clicky tactic this. So so what what specifically will she looking for where where she detected while she was I mean, the story it's always a story the stories that she actually has seen some of the propaganda videos show at that time in the eastern European countries about how bad the Americans actually were dealing with the Vietnamese. So they were showing some of the pilots on their way to throw their bums on Hanoi or whatever place, and she saw that these people were not in a normal waking state, but in a different state, which was very similar to what she would call a trance state. So she thought okay, I will have to figure out if. If it is possible to have a trance state with open eyes and with movements. I mean, that's the story. Probably she also had some other more traditional inputs, which is not which is not recorded. But also, we know that in the south eastern European countries to have been some similar traditions in dancing with some of their traditional dances. So she could also have gotten her information from there. So what was your reaction personally to first seeing active alert hypnosis because a lot of people when they think about hypnosis they conjure up late night. It did this. Amy Jo of the person with their eyes closed slumped in the chair and so on. Yes. As a how did you personally respond to to seeing that it it wasn't necessarily like that? For me. It was clear that I didn't have any scientific procedure by which I could actually use it and during a normal coaching therapy day. So I I knew that I could actually ran somewhere and after certain time I would get in to state like Rana's high and so on, but this is not very practical in in in your office. You cannot you cannot. Ron such session in a in a two hours if noses or therapy session. So it's not possible to go out and run with somebody in that way. At least not for me. So so I was elect refried by this possibility to induce hypnosis by movement, and that it could be done in your face. And that it could be done. I would call it in clean fast way, which is would be acceptable for everyone. So whenever I read about it. I really went to the first post Prospal opportunity to get trained in this. I freak I found out that there was nothing not so much to be trained about because it was still very scientific and from there. I just started experimenting. So I have further. Developed a whole thing and made it available for learning and for many other things which are actually not thought of beforehand. So I and saw Melissa's what night, but I I saw you talk about activity hypnosis at the UK hypnosis convention last year. And it was absolutely fascinating to say. I really enjoyed it. I don't know we spoke about that. Previously. But one thing that I was curious about was, of course, it looks very unlike the the sort of the stereotypical hypnotic into change that you would normally expect. If someone is saying, well, look, I'm gonna go and see a hypnotherapist they might have expectations that they get along in a chair and also close that Reisman, relax. But of course, that's what you're doing. So my my question is how do you frame what you're doing with people when they come and see you do they think they're gonna come be hypnotize? Do you refer to the would hypnosis toll defray a different way. So for me, it's like using a kind of flow state of low experience for change and eight this weather days, I call it. He controls are not it's of lower importance. Of course, we all know, it is hip knows as we know that there is a scientific proof veal. I also in whatever I write in every leaflet you read this is based on this active alert, keep noses process and so on and so so it's completely transparent. But of course, the attractive part of it. It is a kind of flow state. It's kind of easiness, and you know, that flow state is defined as a state where you you very Lou. You lose yourself less. You yourself in a way so yourself less than you lose your time. Room consciousness. So it's timelessness timelessness is part of it. And then effortless is a very important element of it. And it's a rich of inflammation. So I mean, these are four very important arguments and more or less every client is actually attracted by. And so they like it, obviously, I'm also working with the typical traditional hypnosis on. You cannot do where everything the active alerted knows this. But for many people it really helps. So what are the source of issues challenges that you find actively hypnosis very useful for so I mean from general the over the past thirty four years that have been let's refer to are located therapies, then it has been very successful in working with depressions because by moving your ready somehow change your body in a way that it helps the body to get over the depression. So so by the movement itself, your so have a tendency to help the client to move towards a solution. Even if you just let declined to move. But then of course, you do some. You're you do your typical therapeutic work value client moves, and it's the only thing which is really clear it is faster than the traditional hypnosis. And also if you see that this could be a long session like three or four hours sessions, which if in some difficulties cases could happen, then you may not be able to conduct that on a stationary bicycle because the client probably won't be able and it's also difficult to be with a client who is on a bike for such a long time. But in general good for depression, go to overcome bad feelings, and like EM, you can do EM. The offer example, something I developed recently like replacing AMD are by self movements by. Client. So you actually could could get out of it with the format I propose to the client and then presentation fear of presenting. School problems examination problems than low equal low self esteem all day things than whatever. I mean, you can do whatever it I usually if I even to eight regressions on the bike, but not with everyone because if I see well it could take longer and it will take more than an hour. I choose to chair the show. I really like this idea that you know, if you're dating with things where I. Maybe you could call it a high-performance state. With a useful end result that you could use an have flexibility in your approach to use something like active hypnosis that there's a weird kind of contradiction. If I stop and think about it of the typical hypnotherapist perhaps spending five ten minutes. Fifteen twenty minutes, even doing these deep relax ation moments where you're getting someone slumped in a chair deeper and deeper and deeper more relaxed more relax and sedate when you know automatically what you want to take them to woods is a high performance state. Kind of not really a typical eight is a flow state. I would not necessarily call it a high performance day. Today's it is not let's say in terms of results. Let's say I had athletes who came before the Olympic cames games. So, but even for them Davor, actually peddling very slowly. So in terms of their athletic performance. I would say there were lousy but Davor in a perfect in a fascinating state of hypnosis. They were so absorbed and so- dissociated that that they really could do all the change work. So it is not high performance. It's really did hypnosis. So we talked about that moment specifically where say, for example, I am I I want to preface this. Melissa saying, I am not a runner. However, there have been times in my life where I have been at the gym. And I felt like things were tough. I'm running on the treadmill? But then something happens I become absorbed in something else. I go off on another tangent. Another thought an NFC, my body is just kept going, and suddenly I can look back and go. Wow. I've done another couple of kilometers. I didn't even realize. Yes, it is that that sort of moment that where you would argue I've become so absorbed in something that whilst I'm still moving. I'm in. I'm in never ran a nice day for Latinos this at that moment. But in in your case it happened because you're St. date. I don't say that detect Papin by accidentally had been because you have your mental power to do that you bring you a south into that state now in active for Latinos. It's it's it's a very reliable process by which you you'll help CLYDE to get into that process. Reading a few minutes or even with young people. It's even faster it sometimes incredibly fast. They after half a maintenance they're already in that state. So so now taking this into consideration. And that's that's important part of it that that you actually have assistant Matic way to produce this, and it's an easy way. Say throw people antler. And I think this sounds interesting. I'd love to be able to go and experiment with face and saw implementing some of the steps for becoming more aware of this active alert state what other things that you could recommend that they could go and do offer. They hear this podcast that would help to trigger that for them. Well, of course, they could have looked to my homepage. But even there there is not really so much written about it. Unfortunately, this whole method has been kept quite academic in the sense that it was this were only few people who really practiced it. That's the reason why I actually decided to now train people in doing that. And now also trained instructors to do that to train people because we want to spread it further and further so that many more people can act can. Get access to to this fascinating method. So that's part of it. But of course, we also. Some of minds fractures. I call them my instructors because they just recently passed their certification process. They they also would train in English. And then, of course, based on this review, she or she would offer courses all over the world me to this year. I was already in Belgium. I was in Germany, and so we start last year rivals in Poland. I'm thinking of travelling to South America. So we are moving around with a method and spread it. But of course, also limited in terms of you cannot more travel more than there are days in the week Fisher fish, oh, well, we're going to put a United underneath your episode. We'll put some links that people are interested in learning this stuff, and we really clear. Where they can go and where they can get some resources to be able to to begin that journey. I'm curious Claude tell me how has your how would you define Trump? So how would you define hypnosis? Yeah. In general, I would. I like to finish in by Gail tradition. Like, bypassing the critical factor hypnosis, it's an altered state of consciousness in which attention is narrowed focused for the moment just in one on one or a few things whereas other information or perceptions may tend to fade in importance or even pass unregistered for the conscious mind, therefore demeaning construction process. It's actually a meaning construction process is guided and in a specific direction. Also, the mind is very receptive to any idea piece of learning. That's very important for me in that Phoenician. That's what more or less, I explained to most of my clients now with the active alerted noses. I seldom listen eight. This huge part of it is really absorption, your absorb so much in this fantastic experience in this pure so much at the standing on the sand at the beach of the sea, and you're walking you feel the sand and so on and so on and you're really see how the client feels that sense. He's totally there. So he's totally absorbed in this fantastic experience. And there is no idea it's a total dissociation from the problem of from the daily life or from the pain. So that's how I explained to the clients. Has that has that definition fee changed over the years her we pretty been pretty much been consistent? Not really I I started with this iceberg model of consciousness is owner small part of what is people and the unconscious is under the water. And now we need an excess to this. And in a way, my definition is still Osama working on that likely bypass this critical factor, and we get access to the full memory of about the antibody mine system, but it's not as restricted to this definition of conscious and subconscious and so on and so on but still I use this traditional definition to depending on the client. I like the fact that I think a lot of people make distinctions between how they destroy hypnosis depending on who. Talking to you. I think that that's important. So if you cost your mind back close to a new began the process of learning hypnosis if you were to give advice to other people who beginning that journey. What advice would you give them? Well, my realit- rises to just experiment every day at any place than wherever you want. Just experiment chose to wait just take the risk to make new experience. There are no mistakes are only experiences. So that's my advice. Do whatever you you. You come across try to copy try to repeat what others to dry, twin went whatever. Whatever you do end reflect in the sense that reflect about what you were able to achieve. That's important. Don't just do something because you have done it just do something because you know, what it's creating. So I like this idea of inventing. On an overseas. Talked about you taking active undoing moving in some interesting directions. How how have you gone about more specifically that prices of inventing or creating or trying new things they don't know? It is not let can that. I had the idea to invent more more. But I give you an example. I got a call from the owner often tennis training center, and he told me, well, my my f-, let's young athletes. They need some mental enhancement training. So can you help? So I will think about what could be done. So they were all lazy in doing their mental exercises, and they also didn't like the, endurance trainings. So my chopper came as it turned out whilst to combine mental enhance. Enslavement and endurance training and make it fun for St. for the for the athletes. So that was the objective, and I had twenty five athletes ahead one day. So I I did a channel session with all the twenty five where we did certain things. And then after two hours of ten session. I had twenty five active alert is sessions in a row. So I had thirteen minutes per athlet, and that meant breathe talk after talk and active alerted noses. So pre talk was usually one minute, and then it will seven eight nine minutes active allow people noses, and then it was after talk. What did you learn and how are you going about eight and so on? And I had really to design a new process to be able to to to go ahead with twenty five people because it was such a short time. So that's where innovation came from. So I was not innovating somewhere in a in a green field or something in a in or in the open sky. I had a task and by debt, I was actually taken to to Inouye Doriot push further to innovate solution. So it's really sort of growing at you're working with people on role of any sort of sitting down in a big blank sheet gang. I'm going to invent something today. It's kinda -volved. Whether so much in what your clients bring to you in terms of necessity for invention that you just a few more clients. And then you have to be in went if anyway. So that's my it. Why instead of creating an invention sale in yourself? You just take more clients who are a bit more difficult are more more challenging for you. And then your anyway, moralize push to be cracking. Innovative fantastic Claude can you give me a given the rapid change matters podcast. Can you give me a couple of reading league samples while you've witnessed rapid change? Something's happened. They've come in. And they've been had a problem in issue and that has been ineffective show Spicer time. I swift and dramatic transformation. You know, about of my best example is because my work with a journalist. I I sent out Electra two I don't know twenty five newspapers in Switzerland, telling them well instead of writing about crime, only you could write about he knows this. So out of this twenty five one journalist actually called me said, well, I'm interested. So she came with a photograph. And then we talked about he knows as what is eight and so on and towards the end of the the talk. She said, I want to experiment. I said, yeah. Sure. That's the reason why you're here. So she she had an issue issue was she was so scared of talking to more than two or three people. So she had whenever she had a team meeting or even when she had to present something she was so terribly scared. So I mean, she couldn't do it. She she had. I mean, all the problems, we know as therapist, we know that this is one of the worst fears around. So some people actually fear fear it more to talk to people than to be killed. So anyway, she had this fear, and I had her on the by for I think around sixteen minutes and. At the time. The article was published which took quite a by. I think two months I think she wanted to test whether the really worked so she could actually respond to all people who called have how did it work? And so on she could tell them. Yes it worked with sixteen or seventeen minutes. It's just amazing. And it was a pure clear. Cool active alert leaper noses the photo. The photograph was just amazed to to to see it. And it was from that day onward she had the resources to talk in front of the team and in front of people. I absolutely brilliant. And I love the fact that this is I mean, I can tell a lot of people in the past around how we test for change in importance of testing because I think that it's not good enough just to go. Well, they feel better at the end. Of the session. We wanna see some real real responses when they go out into the real world it inverted commas. Sure that if you're working with phobia, like then you go to the place where they used to have to phobia if you work with allergies, then you bring in this the stuff. So in my case, I met a moment ATM's that I'm allergic with. Yellow flowers, which is quite strange. I never knew that. But I worked with work or myself today, and then we'll test it will go to such yellow flowers, and I will I will test. Whether it's still there on out. You have to to make a reality. Check in in such a way that declined actually also believed that the change has had. So how do you go about that process in that? Although some people who. You've done some work and. Even before they physically tested out. How'd you get into a place where that prepared to had tested? Is that route different the things which are easy to test like. Escalator fear of because there is an escalator in the building. I am. So we just go there, and which has tested out or if somebody ever fear to to to stand some wear high Assam where higher than two meters above the general level than it's also easy to test. But of course, if you have more difficult things like then you really have to think how you're testing it or you can take the pictures off spiders or some people who have closed phobia. You lock them into a room and tested. So I mean, you you you need some fantasy to bring I mean, that's also important thing. The therapy or coaching session to actually be an experience for the client. They should know. Okay. I have experienced something to now different. So I think that's important. Coach changing changing trying to just a touch when during the rapid fire round. I also you by the way for the listening to a shooting in going what what was the rapid fire round that I missed that scroll down underneath this episode on the page. You will see the rapid fire round than it was eight questioned in two minutes that all of my guests. Get. But one of the questions was one of the most important beliefs for change work. It's a have and you had this really interesting response. And could you remind us what you said. Yeah. I said that it is very important for change worker. I mean for yourself, and if you want to change for yourself, or if you want to facilitate change facilitate change with others that you have to accept the during taking showers, you can get wet. And then if you accept that during shall we can get wet, you can do more or less every change instantly. That means some people they come to the to to my office in then they think well, it will be kind of dry shower, and I will be clean, so this therapist or coach will do the work for me. And I stay out of the shower or he's taking the shower for me or something like that. No, you have to accept that you have to confront sometimes the issue you have to confront the Betty motion, or whatever the issue is if you're not able or not willing, then it will be difficult to change it. So it's very much. This idea of who has responsibility for the change. Yeah. I really liked that. I think there is a main like I think I caught him with her. I told you when we first spoke about the lady who came in and sat at my desk, and my office and said go on then wave your magic, wand and fix me. That sounds like someone who wasn't prepared to have the shower. No, that's but that's also an unlikely client because I hardly receive such clients. Of course, I receive. Some of the managers because I'm office is in the financial sector of Ceric. So some of them they say, well, can you breaking? Do you are you able to change me? So and sometimes I give them a very Unser quite have. How would you call it provocatively and asked him? Well, how would it sound if I break in or something like that? So then there's a bit shocked, and because I I don't want to to take the responsibility for their experience because they are doing the experienced by themselves, and that's the important thing. It's and sometimes in the beginning of a session. I ask the client. And if these are if if it is a normal client, I don't need that. But if it is a CLYDE to has somehow this attitude to do and I'm waiting, so I tell them a sentence like okay, Mesa sown. So now tell me who is responsible for the success of the therapy. Is it the therapist or resist the client? Than some of these people, they will say, well, it's therapist. And as yet therapist is responsible for the process, but the client is responsible for bringing bringing up issues for participating for being open for sharing all the information and for going into the process. So I make it clear that success is not depending on me only because I don't want this burden. I suggest every change were to get rid of this burden because otherwise you will have troubles for yourself. And this crap are not your troubles. And you have to keep away from this quite right? And I think that's just really sound advice. I really Tae. The other one of the other questions that I all she joined the rapid fire round was was this. I said, can you think of concept dole idea that you used to believe with Tribu subsequently changed your mind about you responded around the day that you used to believe the reflection and insight on the standing why someone might have an issue with the the key to unlocking difference. I'd like to ask you is that is that ever a time for reflection in sight. Of course, there is time for reflection in inside. But you have to see that. I came up in a tradition where for example, during my study, I studied eight. Nope. Psychoanalysis so up psychoanalysis is Tyco analysis just across different cultures. So and some of the people saw thought that if you do feel research in another civilization or another culture, you have to do psychoanalysis or you have to go to an analysis for yourself and and within this tradition. Of course, we're over skeptical. But nevertheless, it was to channel opinion of everyone that by knowing things you would also change them. But. It. It's not really too because you change them by changing dime. It's it's it's much more. Same poop, and the if you think that you have to reflect and then you have to come to a conclusion, and then you can act then it sometimes wrong because you can change at any time. But there is a big, but I also know from development work that by realizing certain things people also decide to change if for example. I bet. I was I was in wolf in primary healthcare. So obviously, all that reas and problems with digestion, and so on they were more or less my daily business. So and if you look at some of the areas where we were working to sixty to seventy percent of the problems, the medical problems were related to digestion. So and of course, it's a hygiene issue. And of course, you cannot change hygiene issues for other people so here in such cases, we help people to understand themselves. What was going on in in in their surroundings in their household soaring down their neighborhoods, and then they were so shocked sometimes when they realized that what the child of the neighbor does directly flows into the drinking world he takes for lunch. And then they started to become active. So that's also way to create change. So it is it is one way. But only one there are many other ways to to to create change to make things change cloud. I really like a lot of the themes that run through all all of the stuff that you've been saying on. I'm just hoping that people are listening to the skying. Okay. First of all this. Maybe this idea of hypnosis could be brought up than we've been county thinking about if people listening to to the podcast, an akin to learn more him more bound this west should they go where can they get in touch? Well, I mean, it is always for me, really. And I'm create trying to create that. I mean, I'm doing I'm creating it. But the speed is not as I would actually like it to be. We are now creating more more information about that on our homepage is so the first thing is you just consolidates homepage. There is already some information. Some other interview star may days there are some links to some articles, but I'm not satisfied. So you're VERA, we're trying to publish as much as we can. We are also we're coaching training and so on. So there are some limitations to to what we can do. So at the speed possible, we probably we make people aware, and I recently was in Belgium. So we have failed to hold training corps class. We have still to this to think about how what we are doing with it. So. Things are moving. But maybe not at the speed. We would like it to be. Well, what you must do. And we will put whatever links that you have already given us an underneath your episode guide. But when there's more information available, you must let us know. And we will add it underneath this episode two people couldn't get hold. All this information put I've really enjoyed chatting with you. And what I really wanted to do is to all it's really won't final question and no pressure, but people have come up with some amazing stuff in the pulse. When I've all list, but no pressure. Clearly, but joking aside is there anything when he thought about what we talked about you coming on the rapid change matters podcast anything that you thought might come up that will be useful to shed. But the I just haven't asked directly. Well, you know, it is it is as we talk about the active alerted noses. We could of course, spend a lot of time to talk about flow states flow, how to induce flow states. And of course, a lot of research is going on. There has been I would call it traditional flow research at present are some people who are try tried out. You have in England you have a professor his called, choose shoot eve-. Even I don't know how to spell out his his name even. So he spoke is quite fantastic. The art of losing control, which describes in the timed to get into flow states. So I think that's that's a lot. We could think talk about in the future. So how to get into that flow? What is that? Tradition. How do we as a civilization? Deal with the stage because from science actually was a lot of time against people enjoying the state, but people, of course in the evening, they go to the pop and a half they appear. So it's also kind of flow state or they go to a football match. And then they are singing with each other. It's also of kind of flow state is also hypnosis. So we have to to be more open to these states and how we actually can use them in a positive way. So I think it amuses me that when people go on they say, let let the drinks flow. They really are in a flay state. Well, maybe not not necessarily. I mean, it's an attempt to to end. It's one of the fastest effort. Getting a kind of state of easiness. It's one of the best methods to just have a beer is that one that you recommend using therapeutically with with your brackets whilst they're on the bike. No. But it's the other way. Now, if we come back to this. I would run very fascinating study that could be done this my hypothesis is that whatever tracks day has been described by somebody it actually could be induced by he knows this again. So if somebody takes cocaine, and he described to me in detail how the cocaine impacts it just a few seconds after he has taken it. A minute after take can eat and so on and so on how what is the first episode section that he realizes that. It is a good quality cocaine and so on and so on so if you. Get this information, you can Rian use cocaine state be your state, whatever by hypnosis, and that's fascinating part because you could read us LSD states, whatever that would be an interesting part for active alert and interesting research for active alerted noses. Absolutely at the lately. Well, listen Claude this has been fantastic. And I've already enjoyed her every moment of this. And and hearing about something that's just kind of a different aspect to something that so many people have been familiar with. So thank you again for spending some time with us. And I hope the lessons of enjoyed it as much as I have your thank you very much to fend fascinating to talk about this to you. And I also find this idea of having this type of podcast. Excellent. And I hope I will be able to do similar things as you do. But of course, in in other languages. Like in German, for example, where nothing like that actually exists. Yeah. Well, I could have a go at at interviewing you in German. But I don't think it would hold up. My my Germans not so good. I hope you enjoyed this episode. And if you did not share it with anyone you think might be interested uneven head over to issues to give us a glowing review. You'll find more about what's coming up on our Facebook page Facebook dot com, forward slash rapid change matters hyphen podcast. And of course, you'll find all the links relate to this episode. Plus those upcoming live events that will help you hone those change work skills.

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"Hi, everyone and welcome back to the talking murder with my mother podcast. It's your host Sonia. And unfortunately, I don't have my mother with me because she has gone back to Canada. So we did do some pre records on the next three episodes. So we will have that. And then it'll be almost like a phone interview type of call where I'll have her basically telling the stories over the phone, but I wanted to give you guys a little mini episode. Just to give you guys updates that. I found on the second episode that we did. So first story in the second episode was about Joseph fury, and he was the kid sorry about the noises. My dogs are around as well guys. Sorry about that. And that you would just keeps looking meet yet chicken trying to do a mini episode here. Thanks, buddy. Thanks for the kisses so Joseph fury. He is the little kid who shot his dad to save his stepmother, and I found this other. Article from the time that says boy kills dad for strapping giving mother meant to teach father, a lesson youth tells police and apparently in here it says, quote, unquote, I don't know whether it was murder or not, sir. The boy Joseph yori told the police Lieutenant Edward rats. I never shot a pistol before and I didn't intend to kill. But I had to do something desperate to stop this whipping of mother. So again, I just wanted to read that out because you know, he really desperately considered this woman to be his mother, and he shot his own father for it. So. Yeah. And again, he shot her because she changed the tires on the wrong car what fucking asshole. Anyway. So the misunderstanding is what got this asshole shot. And it says Joseph a tussled headed youngster within lips prominent chin and unusual intelligence for his age tried to comfort the stepmother after the whipping she had raised him since he was two and was regarded by the boy as his mother finally. Affected by the tears Joseph suddenly left the room promising to quote, unquote, fix it all up the next thing heard was a shot from the front where fury was entering his automobile demand fell dead and Joseph was held in detention home pending corners investigation. So that's a little article extra article I found and then of course, I told you guys he got married and stuff, and I actually found him. So I find him and it says nine hundred sixteen death of his brother Sam fury, which was from his father's first marriage. So his full brother, then three years later in nineteen nineteen I told you guys he had a half brother with his stepmother and his father having a child that passed away John Dory. And then the death of his father in nineteen twenty eight and then he gets married to grace drug use key in nineteen thirty four like, I told you guys and then I find him in northville, Wayne Michigan living in nineteen forty nineteen forty one. He has the birth of his son like. Told you guys the death of his son nineteen forty to nineteen forty four. He goes into the military. Don't know when he goes gets out of the military. But then he's living in Florida. He moved from Michigan to Florida in nineteen eighty one and he lives in Sitra Mary in Florida. And then he lives there up until he dies in two thousand and one. So I'm happy for him. I hope he had a good life. Obviously, his he had no kids in anything anything, but he did live. And then I look it up and I find Grace's wife and SCO scroll through and you find death of husband Joseph, Salvator fury in two thousand one and she ends up moving to. Arizona, which is crazy. So she must Arizona. So that's the story of them too. And that's what I found and then on the Horning case, which is the last case on the episode that is the one where the mother kills the father in front of the three sons, I find this crazy long article that I didn't find at the beginning. And it tells more of the story, it's pretty crazy. So I'm just gonna read it out for you guys. Because it's it's nuts. It has all kinds of like quotes and stuff the kids people anyway. So it says March six suburbanite economists nineteen twenty eight free mother who killed her husband blamed prohibition for tragedy. Son tells a father's abuse. It's the curse of the eighteenth amendment. With these words deputy coroner Joseph Dorfman, fix the cause of the tragic shooting last Sunday morning when Mrs Anna Horning forty year old from eight three four four through kilter husband, George forty four during a quarrel in their homes while he was intoxicated. Mrs warning was exonerated by the coroner's jury who determined that she shot her husband selfs offense after during three years of constant abuse at his hands. The verdict of the coroner's jury has created widespread discussion in the community over the right of women to slay her husband because of excessive abuse in icy no problem with this by the way, ladies in some quarters. It is contended that the verdict has said a dangerous precedent drink will do most anything says mrS John Higgins of Champlain eight three one Champlain avenue. A sister of the slain man, she said cheerfully issue testified at the inquest George was a good father a good provider. But when he was drunk, he was out of his mind. So that's his own sister saying that. That George warning had called his wife, vile names had repeatedly struck her and threatened to kill her was brought out at the inquest by testimony given by MRs Horning, her ten year old son, Glenn and by neighbors heard the frequent quarrels ever since remiss killed his ever since remiss killed his wife used to say over and over again. Oh, if I only nerve enough to kill her some day. I do what remiss did MRs Horning till coroner's jury. I'm not sure who remained says Glen, the sixteen year old son of the horns, a sophomore Callum at high school related to the jury has father had frequently come home intoxicated used abusive language, and attempted to strike his mother. So that's the six I'm sorry. It says sixteen years old. And then it's on sorry. It is sixteen but the type print is bad youth defends mother he said now, this is the son. He said things about her that weren't true. The boy testified he said she went out with other men, but she went, but she went to take my young brother to church. She wouldn't take my. My brother with her if she was going out with another man what she the youth told of an occasion two years ago when the father attempted to strike his mother he went for her than like a raving maniac, but I pushed him away. I was pretty young and I didn't believe in swearing, but I heard plenty of swearing. He was like a wild ape. This is kids saying this to younger children Willard and Leonard neatly dressed in their Sunday closed. Listen solemnly to all that was said at the inquest and as the jury filed out to consider decision. They cried bitterly as they clung to their mother when deputy coroner Dorfman read the verdict exonerating, MRs Horning, MRs MRs Higgins, sister of the slain men, kissed her and express satisfaction over the outcome. The neighbors and relatives president the inquest also expressed their satisfaction with the verdict MRs warning herself smiled quietly as she heard the words of the jury and attempted to console her sons who had been crying the same com was hers as she recited her story before the jury in a clear convoys at no time betray at no time, betraying any emotion. F- after firing three shots at her husband all of which took effect. Mrs Horning stated she sat down for a moment as she became faint in too weak to stand than going to the telephone. She called the Gresham police station instead calmly send somebody over just shot. My husband MRs Horning told the police who heard to her home that she purchased a revolver and a half box of cartridges in Hammond last August, and that she did. So because she didn't believe it was safe to live with her husband without something to protect yourself when he went into his terrible maniacal rages Jesus got almighty the gun was kept hidden in the clothes closet until her husband would come home, intoxicated and quarreling at such time. She would remove it from the closet and put it in the top drawer of her dresser. Like, she's getting ready for this. Mrs like, I don't mean that night. I mean, she'd been preparing every night that he would come home drunk, she'd moved the gun somewhere where she could get a hold of it. If she needed it. Mrs Horning also said that her husband was trying to drive her from the home. So that he could get possession of the residents valley. You did about fourteen thousand dollars again, this is nineteen twenty eight this was corroborated by MRs by MRs William P Waldman attended in the upstairs apartment who declared that Mr. Horning come in had come in. Had come to her and ask to go to court and help him attempt to Vic MRs Horning from the house. Mrs Horning told how we're husband has struggled for the first time five years ago, and it done so repeatedly in the past three years frequently grabbing her by the throat and attempting to choke her. He courted me for five years before I married him. And during that time, I never so much smelled liquor on his breath. I lived in Waqian, then and many of our neighbors were drinking men, and I saw what liquor did to a home my own father drank and seeing these things it turned me against any men who drink George promised me faithfully that. He would not drink and that I would never have to worry about his abusing because of his getting drunk six months after we were married. He came home drunk. He was always complaining and grumbling and finding fault with me he used to complain that I that I didn't save enough money. And that I was too extravagant. Why aren't you like other women? He kept saying to me, why aren't you wise enough to keep from having a family? Why aren't you wise enough to keep from having family? For the last three years. He was a raving maniac. He used to complain every time I brought something for the house or anything to wear a difference in religion between the husband and wife was the cause for frequent quarrels as well. The testimony revealed. He always criticized my folks, she continued I told him that my folks are just as good as his he got furious when I would say this, and he would push me into a corner where I couldn't move and he would hit me in the face and blackened my eye. The next day he said to me, I won't be happy until I see the other I black this incident, according to the testimony occurred two years ago and MRs Horning said she called the police and it had her husband arrested. I felt hurt that I had to have my husband arrested. She continued and I didn't want to appear against him. So the case was dismissed he was arrested again last November following one of his periods of intoxication. He was placed on probation for six months by judge Helen Dewar in Grandcourt grand crossing court. But he was ten times worse when he was on probation said MRs Horning, he used to say, I'll make you suffer. For this discredit your character. Until you won't be able to face one of your neighbors. I wanted to get a divorce, but he begged me not to he kept on promising me. He tried to do better. You stuck with me all these years, and you ought to stick with me. Now, he'd say he's wore that he would never pay a cent of Alamoudi, and I went to see a lawyer about getting a divorce, but he advised me to wait until my husband paid some of the bills lately, though, Georgia tried to get me out of the house. So that he could have the home, but I couldn't leave. I had nowhere to go with three children ever since he read in the papers about Reema shooting his wife. He used to say he do the same thing inner statement to the police following the shooting. Mrs Horning said that husband that her husband talked frequently of what Lee LeBron Leopold had done and of what Hickman done and make threats to her. He said to me take your damn kids in get out of the house. Mrs horny toad the quarter of jury in convoys. He said you're getting old announce time to get rid of you. I need a young woman. I know fifteen women who'd be glad to come over and live here. One after the other during the course of the inquest DEP. Puty corner Dorfman pointed to the effect of the eighteenth amendment on home such as that of the horns, this shows the curse of the eighteenth amendment that you people voted for when we were over there fighting. He says he listened to the testimony that revealed how liquor had changed Horning following his marriage TA Dylan assistant, prosecuting attorney question. Mrs Horning in the other witnesses at the inquest, and then it just has like addresses of the which is so crazy to me as well. They have like the names in the addresses of the witnesses just printed in the newspaper. So like, you know, if you don't like a witness testimony, you can just pop by their later, welcome. But yes, so that's crazy. That was something I hadn't found before. And I had no idea how I found it. But I cannot find her for the life of me anywhere except in a nineteen forty census. And again, this was in nineteen twenty eight when she shot her husband in nineteen forty cents this I find her still living with all the boys and they're like in their twenties. And then I did find George Horning, which is technically Glenn. I don't know why they call him George. I think it's his middle name. And it says, you know, his information. And it says his death was in nineteen seventy eight so the son the eldest son who was testifying in court against, you know, his dad, and the fact that his mom deserve to be exonerated. It says that he was retired elevator operator. And he died in nineteen seventy eight. I don't know from what? But he was born in like nineteen. I don't know he was sixteen in nineteen twenty eight. So do the math. I don't have a calculator people. So yeah, I will post them pictures 'cause I have some pictures of the boys in their mom, Anna Horning in her sons, and I have a picture of Joseph in his step mom. So I will post those online as well. And I hope you guys enjoyed this little mini update episode. I hope to bring you guys more like this. But obviously with mum on them. So cenex time guys own if you wanna get a hold of us. I always forget this talking murder with my mother g mail dot com. Just punch it into the search bar and Instagram you'll find us talking murder with my mother podcast on Facebook at. Murder talking for Twitter. If you wanna do that, even though we're not really big on Twitter 'cause muggy. Mom, doesn't do any of these social media. Mother doesn't do anything. She doesn't listen to the podcast after we do it. And I ended it she doesn't she doesn't want to hear herself. She's just good with talking about the murders and listening to the murders. And all that stuff. But mom will never be on Twitter. Mother will never do the Instagram only if I post pictures, if we're together things of that nature. She's not going on Facebook. She really goes on her fuck and Facebook page, I think the last time she went on her own Facebook pages like two years ago. So yeah, not not good. But again, if you do Email or you want to Email through the the actual g mail she will get it because all read it to her. So that she can listen to fans or anybody else that wants to. So again, hope you guys enjoyed the Minneapolis owed. And we will be back very shortly within a week week and a half with episode number three hope you've as enjoyed.

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EP101 - DAY 1 - #21daykickstart

The Fast Growth Podcast

19:11 min | 11 months ago

EP101 - DAY 1 - #21daykickstart

"Arrived to welcome welcome welcome. Welcome to day number one off this twenty one day kick start the Challenger which we starting for today the going to do it for the next twenty one days. So welcome joining me for the first time Miami Judge Jessil and I'm going to be going through the twenty one days coming online at the same time every day for the next twenty one days to help you. Take your life any business to the next level and that's my intention so. I think. I was thinking how to actually put everything together to hate his taught. You know I'm GonNa. Bring in every day and we're GONNA. Start with the couple of one word for the day in WorldCom. That would and I think it's really important woods bothers. When the woods have by was I think we need to let the lead. The would the magic rather than trying to think about it right so. Today's one would which I should've WANNA work toward WANNA. Talk about it. And when a help you. See, for you can understand that would and and help you. Make that happen something to to move your life in your business. Forward heads my reasoning for doing this twenty one day kick start the of challenge one of the biggest thing is I believe, and this is my big belief. Right now is a lot of people stock started. People are stuck at one place. Lower people are not taking action. They had just at one place show mind bench for doing this twenty one day. Kick Studies to help you unstuck and help you move forward. Like doesn't matter which way you move forward. You just move forward. Because lot of people are stuck and. Most people believe that today that somebody else is going to come and help them. Somebody is GonNa make things happen or make Ping's better. or fix stopped. What's happening around us? you know but Auditor if you hooded, but nobody's GonNa, come and nobody's going to help the only thing. The only person responsible for everything is you. You are responsible for everything and I think the we career decided the quicker you understand it, the better it is for you and your business right so. Let's go back to the same thing what we talked about earlier. What is the wanting one for me right now? For This Day? Number one is would called, decide and. Same thing right so I think a lot of people, as I said earlier waiting for other people to make things happen for them. They are there waiting for other people. Decide for them. See in life. You and your life somebody is going to decide in somebody's need to make decisions ride. Show doesn't matter who makes it most of the time people are other people. Make the decision for you and your life and I think boy becomes. A man will win that Boson man started. Make this himself and same thing with the woman as well. Go become a woman been. Trying to win the make the decision for them right so I think number one thing today is to decide which way you want to go. Decide that you are in charge of your life. That is nobody out there. Who's going to come and help you? Make things happen. You might end. Most people stuck in the old stories. Most people stuck in the boss. Most people stuck in what other people said to them sometimes somewhere in the life. If, you're not aware of my story. A very quickly look I was stuck in my story for thirty five years. And that story was very simple. The JAG Yukon speak English somebody said to me when I was growing up. A just one liner in my school might be just said to me once the Jag Yukon, speak English for many many many years to come into my life. I replayed the same story in my life, even though I was doing really well, even though I was making the money I wanted to make even though I was pretty successful. But each time I failed I gone back to the same story. Gone back to the same story and stock in the story I failed in so many businesses and I could just say reason for that. I'll think I was looking to be looking to failing those stuff. Because could actually have an excuse, right? I had a really good excuse. Each time I failed I said Hey I'm supposed to fail because I just don't know how to speak and That was the main reason and. The moment I let go that story. I became the person who I am right now so I think the number. One thing it starts with is unique to decide. You need to decide that either. You WanNa. Keep getting the baggage which who had it for long long long time, but you know that it's not true anymore right so. Are you GonNa? Let go that paying any going to decide which way you WANNA. Go Right, so I think decision is the main thing you need to decide. Most people kind of stuck and they don't decide either way. Most people wait for things to happen. Most people believe that somebody's GonNa come out them out. Most people believe that that. I need to make the wide decision and most people spend so much time thinking that this season is the one I need to make a but look I. Think one of the best thing you learned from lot of successful people out there are the leaders are there to make wanting leaders up there to make decisions strive? They make the decision so if If. It doesn't matter if it's one not white one at the time, but what happens is they make a decision and the trying to make the decision right after that not be for that White, so I think it's the main thing. We all need to know that we are. nordics puts every time hundred percent way GONNA. Make the right decision right so. The main thing is make the decision, and if that doesn't help in the future, you can change it right as Jim, Rohn always said if you can't. You're not a tree to you can change it to. It's not some pink fixed. So that's why number one thing, it's A. It's a first of July when we're doing this and we always work on quarters wide say business owner listening to this We all woke. On quarter said. This is day number one for the day first second third quarter of this year. and. I think it's time to sort of decide. What do you want this quarter? Decide that. How do you want this quarter to look like for yourself? A Your Business offer you. Life doesn't matter what doing. And, decide in stocked was that. I always talk about this. Lot of people know not things. Not People know stuff right people. You can sit with anybody. They can talk to everything. They know each everything. They can actually beach our own cricket team. How to play better better creek a big beach. Some exports how to speak better bigger beach. All the football players free players on the soccer players how to play better soccer footy right so because these people seating in the lounge room have never done that work, but they are happy to teach other people happy to guide to the people, sort of people have knowledge why so I think knowledge is the only valid knowledge when it's an applied knowledge into knowledge by itself has no meaning. Reading books, which is good, you do it for certain period of time, but reading books by itself has no meaning unless you go out and apply that knowledge and see what happens raw. See what happens So the main thing is I think Dana. You gotta come out and decide which way you WANNA. Go ride. Decide you know that right so I'm not going to tell you that what decision you must make, but you know that in your heart right now there are certain decisions you need to make the southern. And I'm a big believer. This my life right now on your life or anybody's life right now is hair. Right here is because made certain decisions in the boss. You're decided in southern. You decided to marry ago. You decided to marry somebody very specifically because this is what you wanted to do, your decided right so the moment you decided that change alive completely, and that's what we need to do it. I think most people can get stuck in one place, and they don't decide, and if you're one of those people I think my intention for the next twenty one days starting with today is. is to help you forward. Help you take action help. You doesn't matter which way you want to go I. Think you know which way you want to go and I think the idea is you take action because nobody's GONNA come out. Nobody's save you other than you. There's nobody out there right. A lot of people believe that the government's GonNa save me other people going to save me, but there's nobody is gonNA. Come out and save you doing whatever you WanNa do right show the idea is you? Stand up and say hey. I'm the Guy Undergo. Let's go this way right so. Nowhere nowhere I think. right now is is the most important thing if you're running a business if you've been, you know managing teams if you already running in a leadership role. Yori, have that space. You know that right now. In this world way need more leaders today. And, why is that because you know whenever there is uncertainty whenever there is an uncertainty most people? Look for certainty, and they always sort of gold woods where they see the most sutton. And if you look at around us, right down has never been this type of uncertainty in the environment. Your people have no clue what can happen. A lot of people are looking for that certainty and I think if you are the person for your community for your tribe for your employees for your teams. If you are that person who say's that in stand up and say I don't know which way we're going to go with this way I feel this way the right way, and let's do this way. Let's go this way. And that makes the biggest different and unique to trust that right so a lot of people look up to you right now. As as a leader as a as a person who they can see that WHO's standing up today, right believe me right now is the best time right right? Now is the best time. Yes, absolutely, it's not easy right. If that was easy, everybody would be doing it. That was easy, everybody would be standing up and speaking. That was easy right now. What I'm doing! Everybody would be doing it right, so it's not easy, absolutely not easy. But. That's what makes a difference ride. You compared to millions of other people. Millions and millions of other people because they're looking for somebody to say hey, I'm the person I'm the Guy Am the goal. Follow me and today's Day are really WanNa leave you guys with this one message and the messages. You gotta decide you gotTA. Decide which way you WanNa go, because somebody will decide for you otherwise riot. Oh, it's better that you decide rather than somebody else deciding for you. Because when you decide you deciding which way you want to go whether to ride, a wrong doesn't actually matter right now because. Either way it's a right way you walk towards that bought. You realize the down the track that if things don't work out, you can change the Baath. You cannot stare up balked car. The only way you can stay at a carbon it's moving, so it's a good idea to get up and get going. Start. Moving doesn't matter which way you move show. I think the intention for today's really good. That are really want you guys to stop thinking about which way you want to go hunting make right now. Make the decision. Make that commitment and say hey. This is what I WANNA do for next three months next six months next one year. This is one of my life. GonNa. Look like why show. This is the main thing and also. I think you'll see that. And this is the main thing the moment you say that. The moment you give your brain the moment you give your mind saying. Hey, a field issues that are wide way to do it. I want to go this way. I'M GONNA. Leave everything my old story. The way I used to do things and go this way. You'll see that your mind will start to say hey. You'll feel that. Hundreds of Don's Oh. Wait, you're carrying. will feel so lighter. Right. So lighter right so that's the way it would righto. That's doesn't actually matter like if you failed. It doesn't actually matter. We failed I failed. Startups. Does it actually matter right so I think the main thing is if you keep holding the cost about? You won't be able to go to the future. If you keep holding the past. You wouldn't be able to go to the future of the only way you can move for would stop looking at the past. What most people are doing? They walking forward by looking backwards joe? What they have is they have. The back was the goals in towards the drains because staring at the boss, but walking backwards towards the goals, and that's what most people doing because they're standing at something in the oft hey. I've failed so many times I. I! Don't think so. I can do it. I can't speak English they looking at the past, and they're walking this way towards the future by looking at the boss, and you can get your gold by looking backwards the only way you can do it by looking at forward looking towards the goals which way you WanNa, go show I think that's why it's really really really important things those are not serving. You need to let them go because they have no reason to be there. Unless you, let go, you'll be stuck in the past you'll. You'll definitely stuck in the boss. That's why it's really a lot of people who are rich today. Who are who have done something in their lives? One of the best thing to do is to. Stay in the present and stay in that place right now, and they let go what they were in the past, so that identity but you were once upon a time that has to go. And this identity. Who Are you today? That has to be right on completely new person who is taking action. Taking action from future identity perspective not from the past from the present. So stop being that person who used to be and take action who you are right now. And, today is a day to make that commitment. Today's the day could decide today's Day. When you say hey, I, WanNa take this action. I WANNA. Go dish way. I'm going to decide that right so next ninety days is you'll time because this world right now. What you see what's happening with the Covid, nineteen and everything? In a lot of people just like. Not Leaves they just blown away with the wind doesn't matter which way that goal, so they just blown away whenever the tiny wind come from somewhere that just go somewhere, and this is the worst thing for you. Because wind will take you somewhere, and you might not like it Ryan, so I think if you want to decide which way you WanNa go today's time to make the decision because somebody else. Otherwise we'll make it for you and you might not like it. You might not like it because when you get there, you'll decide holy crap I didn't actually want that. Somebody else decided for you, so it's important to think that right now. Right hair that hey, what do actually want which way I want to go, and you know what you actually want Richard Decisions. You haven't made from last so many months and so many years so many days. You haven't made those decisions and you'll being stuck on you being holding off onto those calls. I think today's a time to say. Hey, I want to do it nor analyzing that anymore, nor trying to fry up nor try to say that hey I need to decide, but I need to analyse a need to think through it if you peeking through it. That's not going to help as well so today's time to decided decide. Hey, this is what I WANNA do. When you do that I promise you tomorrow when you can come back. Life will be completely different. When you wake up in the morning, life will be absolutely new and different. Why because you made the commitment because you decided that this what I want to? Unless you make that commitment life will always be the same same as boss. That's why. So many people Dr Wayne died old with said that more people on the future is exactly same as boss. Because everybody's taking action exactly the same way as they did yesterday, so it's really easy to Dell somebody's future. because. They're going to exactly same thing what did yesterday. So for you to change the future, things need to be changed for things to change your need to make certain decisions in your life, and those decisions of the one venue make them and the commitment and keeping on them. That's GonNa Change or create a different future than what you have in the box. Reading Button so that's for me. Today Dana One fall this twenty one day kickstart. Today's worded. Decide decide which way you WANNA go. You've been holding off onset seasons which you haven't made for many many many months and days and years I think it's time to decide that. Tom Things you might let let go and say I. Don't WanNa do this. Sometimes you might say hey. I don't want to do this I don't want to be this ought want to. Stay I. WANNA move. I WanNa do something, but you haven't made a decision. You might be afraid you might be scared. The might be something going on because you haven't decided. So the time means today, time is right now. That is no future that is no other time available in the future for you to decide today's time to decide that. Hey, this. You don't want to do dishes which way I go. This is the thing during the future. Because most people stuck in the past so many times they cannot go to the future by looking at the boss to today's time decided. Does it for me. The number one is done Thank you for joining me if joining me live, which is awesome. If you coming back tomorrow one of those days we do of education as well and if you like meditation, you're GonNa. Love it. And, that's it for me. Thank you for joining me live and giving me you energy and trading you space with me are in all see moral for day number two for this twenty one day, kick start taking a life and your business to the next level and making your unstuck and making a move. Right are she gets tomorrow?

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The Ad Platform: What to Expect for Mobile Ads in 2021 | Dec 16, 2020

Behind the Numbers: eMarketer Podcast

32:46 min | 5 months ago

The Ad Platform: What to Expect for Mobile Ads in 2021 | Dec 16, 2020

"I think that had to do a lot with just complexity of making a switch over for somebody who's big web based publishers to also have elements to them but i think for the average developer. The advantages are so big that the complexity of the over i think is overshadowed by dirt. They're doing it anyway. In disarray just accelerated. Hi everyone. it's wednesday december sixteenth. Thanks for listening to the behind. The numbers add platform and emarketer podcast sponsored by new star. I'm your host principal analyst nicole parents and this is my form talk about advertising with some of the smartest people i know. Joining me to that. Today is my fellow emarketer. Principal analyst insider intelligence. Gyory wurmser yuri. Welcome our. I am great yuri. This is your second time coming on the platform. Of course we've done lots more than two podcasts together. But this is your second time coming on my show and i was thinking when i was scheduling this that this is like actually really close in the time of year too when we did your first episode and when i checked is almost the exact same time. It was december eleventh twenty. Nineteen that i. I had you on to talk about our us mobile add banning estimates. Back at that time there has been obviously a while changed over the past year in the general world and in the advertising world as well. So what we're going be talking about. Today is your latest report which is just out for a marketer clients this week about the mobile add outlook for twenty twenty one. Maybe pin kick us off by talking about the first of the ten trends that you included in that report which is about how the pandemic has accelerated mobile ad spend growth. Maybe that sounds surprising because we do have a little bit of a blip this year where growth wasn't as fast as we predicted it would be pre pandemic. So what's the story here about how. The pandemic has accelerated things from advertising right. Yeah i mean you're right that it is counterintuitive that the pandemic may actually boost mobile spending a. We're when i say that. I mean really. In the long run so into short-term obviously the pandemic hit mobile advertising had every other at platform and we expect now that advertising and twenty twenty will total around ninety six billion dollars in the us as opposed about one hundred five billion that we predicted before the pandemic but longer looking forward the growth rate is actually going to accelerate from twenty twenty one into the foreseeable future because of the changing behaviors pandemic. 'cause people are spending more time on mobile. They're spending more time with mobile video all types of video but it's going to boost mobile as well. They're spending more time on ecommerce and by extension mobile commerce and advertising that's driving e commerce and all of those factors are going to lead to a faster growth rate in a wire retiring by twenty twenty three. We actually expect mobile advertising to be at one hundred fifty six billion dollars as opposed to one fifty five billion that we are predicted pre pandemic so despite the dip this year. Twenty twenty faster growth. Going forward looks like a good but yeah yeah it. It'll take a couple of years to to get higher than our pre pandemic estimates but were on a better trajectory now. That's the case for mobile. It's the case for lots of other digital and also digital as a whole which. I mean to be fair is mostly mobile so that largely driving that trend but especially what you said about ecommerce than the fact that we've sort of accelerated the shift of retail sales spending to digital channels by a couple of years. It means that we've boosted digital ad spending in this permanent way even if it is going through a little bit of a blip during the pandemic so this is the case for display. it's the case for surge. it's the case for total digital. It's also the case for ecommerce channel ad spending although that's the one case where this year isn't even a blip even this year is in acceleration so basically the events of the pandemic are really good for the digital ad market in a long term way. Even if this year was attack year obviously for a lot of people in the space. Let's talk about some of the other things that are going to drive toward more spending in mobile advertising a lot of the trends that you talked about in this report come back to different things that apple has done whether it's with the design of their newest iphones or their operating system. Ios fourteen one of those trends has to do with an acceleration of spending away from the waterfall and ward mobile header bidding for lack of a better term. Now before i ask you a question about this. They just want to explain why said. For lack of a better term so header bidding happens in the header. Which is something that exists in a browser based environment. There is no header in an app. So the idea of this type of a unified programmatic auction which can still be executed for enact buying. But it's not really in the header. So we're kind of left wondering what to call it some people call it mobile header bidding. Some people call it app bidding. You could just call it unified. Auction are there other terms that i'm forgetting here. Gyory that people might be familiar with advanced bidding. Yeah exactly but the point. Is that if you have a waterfall. Setup that involves the monetization partner sort of in a series based on some type of a manual setup that determines who's first in line who second in line at cetera the unified auction is involves all bidders competing against each other simultaneously. So the issue here. Is that the setup of the waterfall becomes prohibitively difficult under ios fourteen. That the general idea is so what i was. Fourteen does with the app track in transparency framework Aggregates the type of information that the ad networks get back out installs and so forth. What that does is it makes it harder to create really accurate and precise e. Cpm's date you know. It's very hard to know exactly what the performances for specific add without those precisely. Cpm's the waterfalls apart because all of this ranking is based on these e cpm's so the app tracking transparency basically without that precision. That just it takes away any of the advantage to the waterfall. Has i think it'll shift a lot of the activity to parallel bidding or advanced bidding. Or whatever you wanna call and just so. I make sure that i understand. I mean part of the issue is that it will become more difficult to predict in e. c. p. m. but there's also going to be this like i assume a big kind of hiccup period where you probably have your current waterfall. Set up is based on past performance but the way that berry is networks perform is potentially going to get really shaken up lake right around that march timeframe that we're hearing the app tracking transparency framework will go into effect right like just the idea of like past performance not indication future. Success is going to be especially true for some period there during the transition. Does that sound right to you. I think so it and it's going to be true in the longer sensed it a lot. He's models are going to be disrupted so past. Performance in regard is definitely going to be changed. I think especially when you're talking about some of these these very in precise. ecp bans. Did you could see in mobile gaming. I think there there are. It'll really get thrown into a lot of confusion but even in terms of optimizing on much smaller timeframes disease c. pm czar in a revised relatively quickly. I think you're going to see problems with that as well. So you're to see long range business disruption of business models. But you're also i think even for ad networks that are fairly well established and should do find. You're going to see much harder prediction on where you know how to. Waterfall works and so forth. So then let's talk a little bit about you know the other side which is the unified auction so facebook audience network made an announcement a little while ago now that they had been planning on shifting over to one hundred percent at bidding at some point i think at some point next year but they're accelerating that timeframe so the end of q. One will be the last opportunity to do waterfall. bidding within fan. Is that right. Yeah that's what they've pretty much said. I think the so by q. Two i think is what they're saying. So i i think that's the end of q. One is a pretty good target. And according to their research it provides better monetization for app developers right. Yeah it does. I think they're saying twenty-seven percent more average revenue per daily active user compared to waterfall. So yeah it should be who for For most developers. And i mean you know what we're talking about here is also like these. Things were an impetus to move away from the waterfall in toward header bidding for traditional desktop or browser based programmatic both the complexity of the waterfall set up and the difficulty. Of getting it right. The fact that know publisher monetization teams might have been spending really a lot of time managing the waterfall. And the possibility of just getting better bids. If everyone's actually competing with each other in a unified auction. Do you have any sense of like how app developers are filling about making the shift over. I know that apps are traditionally not necessarily as relying on ads lots are subscription. Or i a p based so is this a good impetus for them as well think so i mean i so i think that a lot of the app developers have been in the process of shifting over over the last year or two i think it's interesting that Some of the bigger brands seemed to be hesitant. Some of the bigger publishers advertiser perceptions had study they do various waves of a survey actually seemed like the a smaller number of these large publishers using mobile header bidding or apparel building. Every wanted to call it in the last wave. I think that had to do a lot with just complexity of making the switch over for some of these big web based publishers also have elements to them but i think for the average developer. The advantages are so big that the complexity of the switch over i think is overshadowed by. They're doing it any way. And they're in disarray. just accelerated. yeah yeah interesting. Cool so moving onto another one of your trends. That's also related to changes going on to do with the mobile situation. Partly due to the phone maker activities like i was talking about a minute ago but also government regulation so this one is about the fact that you think regulations will further squeeze the supply of precise location data. So you talked in here about some pass. Regulations like the gdp our nc cpa having made location data a little bit harder to come by. Can you talk first about what that has meant over the past say eighteen months since the gdp are went into effect am so For one thing it is made it. Everyone has to be part of the consent framework on they have to get consent to use location data so aps or any types of publisher have to ask for permission to track location into use it for advertising. They have to get consent. Nafta's have some sort consent framework. They can pass onto everyone at the edge. So that's made it harder but it hasn't completely shut down location data as a source within europe or within california the newly passed. Cpr a the california privacy rights act shifts the idea of location data from being a precise location to from being personal data to being sensitive personal data. Which is there are a lot more stringent regulations associated with that so although location data as a category has become more difficult to use under. Gdp are and undersea cpa and under thirteen. Already you're going to see even stricter rules under cpr and it seems like you think that we might also be headed for more regulation in this area especially because of some of the kind of light. That's been sean on some practices this year to do with location. Data gathered from the bitstream. Can you talk a little bit about what that is in. What's happened over the course of this year so the bitstream is probably most listeners. Understand the data that crosses through an exchange and ad exchange so the supply side will send information including location data over to demand side vita exchange but any demand side platform that is bidding concede that data and it can grab that data and take it as their own on aggregated and then resell it so did. The publisher doesn't get anything from that other from the company to the buys bid the consumer gets nothing from it. it's called bitstream siphoning or bitstream skimming that's becoming a lot more controversial in europe. It's becoming more controversial in the us. Congress right to ask. How is this location. Data getting collected in. How's it being used. And there's a lot of concerns around it at. I really expected this coming year on twenty twenty one. That is data. Privacy becomes more of an issue in congress and in the federal regulatory structure. I think you're gonna see a lot of attention on this particular type of private data which is skimmed location data from third party sources. I mean bitstream listening like this has been. I would say controversial within our corner of the world also for awhile in terms of for example publishers. Complaining that due to data leakage. They're having their audiences sort of stolen. Meaning you'll listen in the bitstream you see look at all these valuable users at publisher axel Publisher ex go find those users at you. Know super cheapo publisher y. Instead right and it's one of the things that i think the wider world doesn't know too much about it became news a little bit this year. And like you said attracted some negative attention from legislators so seems like there is some possibility that there will be some controls brought to this face at a federal level next year. Is that something that you're specifically anticipating. I am so you mentioned some controversies in the past year. There's mobile wa which is one of the these mobile data companies published some information about the demographic characteristics of the protesters in the black lives matter protests over the summer. They meant it to show. How cool type of insights you can have from the state ad. I think they didn't have any various purposes with a bit revealed the extent of private information. People have and i think that kind of sparked the attention or the interest from some of the senators that are already interested about privacy issues. Like senator wyden from oregon or senator warren from massachusetts and some congress people as well so yeah. I definitely think this is going to be at the top of the agenda when somebody's privacy bills are being discussed. You know what to do with this. And specifically around the pits. A skimming yeah. It's something that we've talked about on the show before as well. Listeners may recall that over the summer ahead on johnny ryan who has a lot of consumer privacy concerns specifically to do with the way that rtp involves broadcasting a bid request with a bunch of information. Just like what we're talking about you know to a set of undefined an unidentified companies that might or might not be listening to the bitstream. I'm gonna take a minute right now for a quick message from our sponsor new star. And then i'll be back with your e to talk about a couple more predictions that he has for mobile advertising next year. It's an exciting and challenging time to be a marketer. The third party cookie is going away. The pandemic is disrupting behavior and privacy is now an expectation not an option. That's why new star has launched fabric to provide brands. Publishers in plot forums is sustainable option. They need to future. Proof their marketing. Fabric combines powerful identity based data assets from new star and their trusted partners to solve. Today's problems and help marketers. Continue to thrive learn more at fabric dot new star slash emarketer. That's fa b. r. i c. K. dot n. e. u. s. t. a. r. slash emarketer marketer. All right and now. I'm back with yori to talk some more about what he's expecting for mobile advertising in twenty twenty one okay. You're a time to ask you to explain something else about these nice complicated things. That apple has introduced vlad ecosystem with the app dragging transparency framework. One of your predictions for next year is that iowa. Fourteen will make the first twenty four hours after an app. Install even more important than they already are before we talk about. Exactly what can you tell us a little bit about how the s k ad network actually works. Sure so you're like please no entering. You could see my white knuckles for my fingers. Right across the network works by sending aggregate information back to ad. Networks that have plugged into the escapade network. Api but there is a big delay in how it does that. So the first information that sends back is within twenty four. Forty eight hours of an installments. You get that information back whether someone is installed the app but escott network also allows for conversion factors that can be measured basically any actions. Did you can measure within the app following install things like purchase or a level reached or something like that. You can have up to six of these different variables playing around or sixty three different combinations of that. But as gad network only sends back information about those conversions until the last conversion has been done. So let's say you have someone going. Through several different conversion factors they reach a level and then they make a purchase. If it's several days away you're not gonna hear anything about that until twenty four forty eight hours. After last conversion event happens and at that point it's gonna be really hard to optimize your campaign. Let's if you're getting that three four five six seven days after your last event app so if you want to be able to optimize your campaign you wanna get as much information as a can not just about you install but any of the events that are happening afternoon stall as fast as you can realistically. You're going to have a twenty four hour delays. So you want those to happen. Within twenty four hours you can get that information quickly. Yeah all of these delays are things that apple has introduced to be privacy by design right if it takes an undefined amount of time after i do for that thing to be reported on helps in terms of not being able to trace it back to me along with the other ways that the network is going to aggregate information so it sets his timer when i install the app for the next twenty four hours. It doesn't do anything. And then after that. There's a twenty four hour window and it sends the information at some random time in that window so again. You can't trace it back to me in any way shape or form. You can't even say this happened. Twenty four hours ago or forty eight hours ago it happened twenty four to forty eight hours ago. That's all that we know so just to make it that much more concrete. That kind of that is the level of aggregation and kind of transformation that this information is gonna go through before it comes to you and the other thing thing that i just wanna make sure is super clear so the only thing the fbi network actually attributes is happen saul it was additional conversion events. It's not gonna say like this purchase was attributed to this ad. It's gonna say this installation was attributed and the installation led to a purchase within x. Hours right exactly exactly yeah it. It really is privacy by design or not. They're trying to give as little information as they can while still giving the advertisers enough information that they can optimize. But it's definitely a hard balancing act to do so given that each of these conversion events will introduce another delay in reporting and you're not really getting like the most super granular information about those conversion. Anyway what are you kind of. Hearing as far as the advice being given about whether to use the conversion events or how many us what sense do you have of how developers are going to approach this. Nagoya may want. They want to add to this but the diversion. I'm hearing is that. It's good to have a couple of conversion events at least to get a a little bit more information about the post install actions just like as always been the case but the not go crazy about indefinitely not delay having a whole series of events to just pushes back the post back. The push back did notifications from escapade network back to the network. So there's definitely a feeling that you need to prioritize events. You want whether it's a couple you know whether it's a purchase or game reached or whatever but you really want to get that one or two events down in the first twenty four hours if you have more useful beyond that you can do that but really you have to think more about prioritizing which events are important and to get as few as you can measured completed end. Sent back to you so you know what's happening. Yeah i think what you're saying is to try to get conversion events that you think people will do within twenty four hours because if they don't do them within twenty four hours you're never gonna know if they did them or not right exactly and you know something that's related to this is with iowa's fourteen and also with the pandemic and consumer behavior you're seeing a boost. in subscriptions. Subscriptions are often converted from a free model to subscribe model within twenty four hours. It's really important within twenty four hours so even beyond post back window you want to get as many of those subscriptions sealed within twenty four hours. So i was fourteen and s k ad network just a growth in subscriptions will also i think put more pressure on conversions within the first twenty four hour window. This someplace where you're hearing people encourage testing now wall. The traditional signals are still available for the next couple of months. Yeah absolutely in a lot of these attribution companies have set up systems where you can test to see how well you know. The post backs work. You know what conversion values are working and you can still have you can test it against personal data were probabilistic data modeling. So yeah. I think everyone. I've heard is recommending. Did you start testing now. Even though it's still a month or two possibly more away from becoming sir. I mean what that really means. Is you only have a month or two left to taps on how. It's so little time really when you think about it and it's a huge change so it's absolutely moment to start thinking about. Yeah also final trend that we're going to talk about today on the episode but again we're only talking about five. There are tens of subscribers. Definitely check out yours report because you're only getting half of his predictions in this episode. But the last one that i wanted to talk about you know goes back to all of what we were just saying. That changes to how people can target and measure. Advertising are gonna lead to alternative practices. That maybe have not been undertaken as much since the rise of programmatic audience targeting. One of them is contextual. Comes up a lot for desktop browser based publishing with the trend that we're gonna talk about now has to do with inap- contextual advertising which using is gonna take a big step forward in twenty twenty one wine in-app contextual different from browser i. Yeah so the big difference. Is that browsers. Allow for crawling pages. So you can have a contextual. Advertising provider crawl different pages for content. Go through the tax go through images just to see what the content is to give it a grade coded scored in whatever way. It's much harder to that with apps. There's not a common language to go in and dip in and get the content without you know having a specific. Sdk within the app. There's no way to sort of go across all apps to see. You know what the content is said. I just makes it harder to do than it is into web environment. So what kinds of things are you expecting to see happen with an app that will make contextual better so it really goes to the developer side or to the publisher side so the big publishers have the resources to do their own. Contextual engines You're seeing the new york times. Washington post other companies create these contextual targeting engines with they themselves are quoting to content and then selling ads against it now that works whether to content is published on the web or an app or wherever but more broadly when you're talking about the app ecosystems in publishers or developers selling their inventory to advertisers over open exchanges in private exchanges. They don't have to resources to create those engines themselves. And i think what you're going to see. And i've heard some snippets of this from people i've spoken with. You're going to see some solutions. That app developers can implement on own that will let them score contact with hinder apps. And with that they'll be able to allow contextual advertising that similar to what you see on the web but still putting a little more onus on the developers to implement these strategies having these turnkey solutions that you don't really have right now. Yeah yeah that's really interesting. So i've been having a whole bunch of conversations for the past few weeks about programmatic trend. More broadly not just associated with mobile. But i have had some of these conversations about mobile in-app specifically a lot of the talks been having generally about her matic and the sell side have been about the idea that assess ps and monetization partners like s p is will have a bigger role to play. I mean you know. It's always been the case that what they do is package ad inventory for publishers. In a way that makes that inventory more attractive to buyers but they're going to have an even bigger role of finding newer innovative ways to package these impressions and to provide information about the impressions that makes them attractive even without type of audience data that we may be used to seeing. So i was telling you earlier. I met with osorio who die at fiber which is a mobile app monetization partner and he gave me a couple of examples of the ways that you know as as he put it. We can definitely describe the impression better without getting any privacy or tracking related data so one of the examples that he gave here that i felt like was like one of these elegant things that makes so much sense but i had never thought about it before was disease. Have enough disk space to install kind of a large mobile gain if the user has like no empty space on their phone. They're probably not going to install call of duty. Just don't bid on that impression so if you see impressions where there's just very little available disk space and you know that your game needs more than that. There's no point in bidding on. He also talked about the ability to broadcast something like the battery level. And it doesn't have to be a specific number. It could just be like a range it could just say. This guy is in the red zone of his battery where he's probably not going to install a new app or take the time to register for something because phone is dying. Another example was exposing the last ad. Demane the user was exposed to you know if if they just saw an ad for a match three gain that they didn't install that might be a signal that they're not interested in that type of a game so i think it's also kind of about broadening that idea context is not only about like literally what is the content on the web page about but what's the context of the person what's the context that the device and the user are actually in the time in what makes sense for them. That's exactly right. I mean there's a lot of things you can do with where they are the device. They have just what you said. I mean it being more creative about what is to current frame of mind order current capabilities of the recipient will let you do things without you know really getting into what they've done to pass in terms of buying so so and so Definitely interesting stuff happening. Yeah obviously a much. Simpler example is the context of like genre. You're in a game you're in this type of game. You're in that type of game this type of utility app on. But i thought those examples that i just gave were more innovative and interesting and be very curious to see if that's the kind of thing that we see develop more next year as people look for like i said just new and different ways of packaging inventory once. You can't package it in quite the same way. That buyers have been used to for the past ten years or so for sure. Any final thoughts on your outlook for us mobile advertising next year. Gyory now i mean i think you come out of the pandemic. These are often moments. We see a lot of innovation because we'll models fall apart under distress and people have spent this past year innovating. A lot in i think as demand returns. You're going to see some things take off. That might have taken off to three years now instead of next year as a result of pandemic. So i think it'll be exciting year. Yeah i couldn't agree more. I feel like i've been a broken record. Basically since just talking about the idea that you know all through this pandemic situation under the surface people were gonna be innovating and that that next year as we recover that recovery was going to look different than we could really predict because of that. So we'll be here looking forward to it will be reporting on it. I know i said last week that it was my last at platform of the year. This is really my last add of the year. It's all that we have time for today. But i will be back next year with many more episodes talking more about all of these issues. Thank you so much for being on the episode tonight. Glad to be here and thanks to you all for listening again. This is all we have time for on the ad platform sponsored by new star but will be back next year. Please can heat it a let us know what you think. Let me know what you'd like to hear about next year of podcasts. At emarketer dot com thanks move.

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Part 2:Steve Asmussen,Brendan Walsh

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Part 2:Steve Asmussen,Brendan Walsh

"Stories with steve. Big horse racing handicapping interviews. This is steve. We're back our two presidents day. Monday plenty of racing today. Even with the severe weather and and actually occurs to me with steve asmussen joining us. We've got plenty to talk about. But steve first of all good morning. Good morning steve. You're you're a texas native. And i i'm curious in in your in your life was when what have you seen whether like this never witness weather like we are having in this part of the country. It is extremely odd considering we especially considering where thirteen days from march exactly. I mean. there's been if i think about hot springs where you know in the january years ago when they would run you'd get froze the freezing temperatures and the track would freeze. And there'd be the occasional cancellation. But i mean this and and what's amazing. Steve is how it's going to be sustained the cold. This stuff's going to fall. And then it's not going to melt the in twenty four hours right Def definitely Unprecedented i very much appreciate Oaklawn moving the stakes back and even made the who later. Adjustment to moving right the razorback boy aeko and south west to sunday which looks like a you know a very good day. I think the most important thing at this point is to be able to get the horses in there safely ahead of time and give them a good chance. Steve i i talked to rick hammersley last night and rick brought up a you know a fair point about training. I if you're not training how much of a hindrance is it in terms of you know keeping them keeping them right Obviously just tack walking how who knows how many days well the horses that we have for the this coming week in that oaklawn are still at the fairgrounds. So that makes it easier and we. We are going to miss training at the fairgrounds in the morning. they've already made that announcement But it appears looking at the weather that Tuesday is going to be the only day that we will miss in new orleans. So we have jackie's warrior Finite and silver prospector and then they are We will enter on wednesday and then we will make arrangements for travel whenever the roads are clear but racing for them on sunday. Looks good and we've been very fortunate to be able to train them. Accordingly is We'll catch up on some of the oaklawn Runners because You've after we talk about the stakes performers and. Let's start with saturday at fairgrounds. And i just had richmond yori who actually was talking about cash In the course of the conversation but The the ride. By joe talamo steve on air was a thing of beauty. It really was you know We were fortunate to pick up Joe for midnight vervins for the lacob and I people may forget but he started writing. Career at the fairground was actually leading rider as an apprentice at the fairgrounds and It's a unique course. And i think it's the familiarity as well as ability Came into play. She is is about as you know bread in the purple for stonestreet and You know the whole there were so many nice ties steve. I thought saturday you know there was the race itself the rachel alexandra and here a banke stonestreet home bred The wonderful cavorting and curl in the there were certain harmonies to winning this race. Oh as you mentioned you know where. Where do you start with. You know how special she is Her connection and then to beat a quality field in in a race. Like the rachel. Alexandra what rachel. Alexandra means for racing for stonestreet and for our stable and then to do it with the curl in philly outta cavorting Cure great mayor that came neglect trained four stonestreet than he had commented on her every race since she broke her maiden and he is enjoying watching cavorting offspring. Well and i. I'm sure. I'm sure he loved to figure out a way to get lewis. I support the at some point but the right now. It's it's joe's and of course you know you. You ran into travel column in the goldenrod. her second career. Start off the maiden win back. A- churchill in november at the end of the fall meet. And how is she. How has she changed Between november. And now you know we. Everybody well mentioned about pedigree and just How in the purple. She is and everything about her pedigree who she is physically says time and distance to benefit her You look at carlin's career as royal couple of they started out good but ended ended up great and We're expecting the same from her. Nice i mean in terms of growth. The physically the nichelle everything going everything mentally physically everything going exact coming together at the right time and as good as she is now i i honestly believe she's only halfway to where she's going to end up well and of course The mile and the eighth in the offing for the fairgrounds oaks. And the this is about is as great a way to start the three year old season with this win. And now you just turn and point toward The oaks next month Awfully nice clary air. I what else to say i. I was so impressed with the way. Talamo was savvy to make sure to not leave her too much to do and you know. He had to avoid steve yet to avoid that tiring. Pacesetter the aim is philly. That was stopping on the rail. He had to get around her then he went back inside then he came back out To nail travel column really really to yeah comments after the race I thought were extremely accurate. He said she was like remote control where you wanted to be. She just put herself there. And i think the all class For her to handle that way in the race Joe obviously made the right moves with her At how she was to get a picture. Take into cool outs. This does not surprise her. I really liked the presence about her. In the fact that She expects to to have this kind of success. Well there's Clairiere eighty five buyer on the speed scale and mile. Nate next for the oaks and then Knock on wood back to churchill where we know she and comfortable and likes the surface and pointing toward the big steve. Talk about What went on in the risen star has where mile and a sixteenth. They keep it as sixteenth okay. Mile and a sixteenth which She was good to see her perform well at that distance but i think everybody feels that adding to that will only benefit clear both Both of the both parts of the exact which travel column six plus links back to the third place finisher. The two of them really distinguished themselves coming out of the rachel on saturday. Talk about Talk about midnight. Bourbon mentioned and the effort in the risen star. Right another solid effort from me I have nothing but respect for the top. Three finishers from both the lakota and the risen star feel like they're all three extremely serious three year olds and we'll have a lot to say in the division this year All three of them graham looking into huge pedigree individuals and midnight bourbon needed. The cop got quite a bit of it. i think that he Will jump forward off of the risen star being his third race back going into the louisiana derby and Still feel like we're in the mix with and and turbie course Little added a little more added distance. you know. He attended the pace. That was being set by right. And just and you know just basically engaged with the top pair and and mandolin kind went on by and proxy and midnight bourbon Fought to the wire with proxy. edging hassling. it's a situation very similar to the racial alexander. Where the top two in the rachel. Alexandra appeared to separate themselves. and then In the risen star felt like the top three separated themselves and just can't was fortunate to come out on the right in the one of those not necessarily the well and i'm that topic steve. Because we're gonna talk. I want you to talk about simon and the performance as well that He turned in the race. Track on saturday it. You couldn't you have to attend the pace. You have be within striking distance. I think the the racetrack was amazing for saturday. Considering the we were cancelled thursday. Be of weather and then The friday card started off in extremely wet and two for the fairgrounds and their crew to get it and the shape that the racetrack was in. Saturday was unbelievably fortunate and I don't think that it's any mystery. Why horses Like that are here. Are here in doing so. Well you know and then to you mentioned. Solomon the opportunity to see and run against max field. What an amazing physical. That horse is and two matches undefeated racing record It's a pleasure to seek but All thanks go to the surface of to allow this to happen and osama bin what your thoughts be eating. He keeps turning in solid tries. And you got him essentially mid-career don adam a shifting empty you and you've tried them a couple of different configurations and and so forth Feels like feels like. There's a nice steak win for him as an older horse somewhere. It really does I mean his two performances against mac fielder excellent. You know his I thought his breakout rates was the two other than at churchill in the fall knee where he shook loose so to speak and Got to a new level for us. And then the his two runs against the mac seals been very respectable Another kirwin who you there is no bigger fan in the world of As a racehorse santa sire just stir ability of the state of mind games gamesmanship of them but His one race in the middle Drawn eighth of twenty five and one. The first quarter finish was beaten three and the catholic serve whatever to a solid field that That rates could have unfolded differently. Or i think it would be no doubt that solomon of older handicap division sakes calvin horse that will keep Keep watching for him. And some of the options i gotta ask you about options Coming out of big lakes allowance win and this kind of went under the radar. Steve but Here's an american pharaoh. That mike rutherford Home bred out of the student. Council mayor ras steffi. And did you train them did you. Tr- did you train the damp mark casting trained We had student council for farms at the towards the end of his career. Won the pimlico special. A solid horse like the distance aground. Big lakes that very talented three year. Old as you mentioned a home-bred very attractive individuals that good acceleration And he he will jump into the stakes off of this Whether it be the louisiana derby or possibly The rebel Which would give him an another opportunity to mile on the sixteen nice. I'm glad i asked. You gotta eighty-one buyer out of this johnny v riding and It kind of fits a certain profile. Steve of some of the other horses. I want to bring up with you. We haven't had a chance to talk and swift shore It's going to have to stretch out. They actually. I was a little surprised that he was included in the derby future. Wager what What's your thoughts after that. Nice win last now. It's a couple of weeks ago at Oakland right Extremely talented horse a just an absolutely beautiful individual that Solid made run gave him plenty of time going back into non to and he responded nicely. The horses What a different physical. He is going into the start of this year in a just how much she's grown up filled out Absolute you know. Just come off the ground at least three or four inches. The last Three or four months and just looks like a completely different. As far as our prospects of being able to stretch out the interruption and weather I think will affect worse. When you're looking for your next step you know Hopefully we keep an eye forces running that race a solid race to turn race would feel for him to hopefully get him in the knicks At some point. And stephen. I wanna give you a chance to and maybe i should get cash on Talk about The asmussen equine dot com. And you know the the presence Terms of ownership. And i know that There's some offerings as well that Caches doing. It's awfully fun to have a good horse for your brother He has this source with the cnn farms. You know just a very nice individual and adopt class horse. The pressure's on to manage incorrectly. Nice well and speaking of Some others let's let's get a couple of other favorites in here and I want to ask about the to smarty. Jones placers both cowan and big thorn Obviously caddo river ran off but Give us an update on the three year old race in saudi On the twentieth and feel great about his chances Have responded going over there to ride in and the mile and then max player in saudi cup. And so we have more than an exciting weekend. Coming up with Hopefully getting the oakland stakes in and then obviously the saudi cup as well as cohen's mile and then Expecting a very good week et. sam houston as well. Well we got the we got the a texas breads This weekend coming up at sam houston gotta get updates about A handful of others. You've been winning a lot of maiden races and especially for the leib longs Update update us at all of the alex. Joanne's recent breakthroughs and abrogate to up on abrogate. We're expecting to run saturday in the dixie belle. Which was postponed a week which will actually benefit her from running opening week. Impressively in another damn at oaklawn And then as you know we she also has willing woman. Who's the half the average fast who they're very very similar to her sister who we were fortunate enough to train for clear sky and when the fantasy with her a few years back and i expect willing woman shop in the honeybee very nice And along those lines two. There's also the foxy dancer nyquist philly willful woman. The maiden winner Two weeks ago casual. What's up with casual The lady tack baby you get the lady tax vevey back to sprint. Like she belongs just like nice and She responded with a huge number and her condition Opening week at oaklawn and expect her to show back up in the spring fever the end of the month at o clock. I i've got so many. Steve i want to ask you about This is another product. That i'm sure is is close to The barnes heart heart The tap it philly hot dixie. Chicks pauline pearl won the maiden on thursday for friday friday on friday of this week. You know it's just Affiliate it's benefiting from stretching out out of hot dixie chicks who as you know absolutely brilliantly fast philly but there is definitely some quality to turn horses in the pedigree and she ran very respectable time and looked great going through the wire With her final margin of victory. I believe being four links but She will obviously be ready and willing to pick up the slack for clairiere and the colors. If need be nice nice. I don't wanna let the bowl door go through the cracks either That was a popular win there. There were a number of of Handicappers that Like the his chances in the king gotten and came through a nice price in a short field. Yes quality horse for the ors that Try tried the rat. The three rolled out races that has benefited from as an older horse. Backing up to sprints two runs this year to stakes wins Just has reached a new level recently. And the very good time to have a sprinter doing well with the sprint stakes schedule. They have at oaklawn park. Steve one other stake winner to that We haven't talked about in the fifth season. Silver state had to be happy with that effort. Very much so horses just absolutely beautiful individual. Just a huge physical Been extremely high on him For the wind chills and the horton's He's got a three race win streak going in and expect his next run to come in the essex. Well no no visit is complete without A nod and checking in on clark brewster's runners and a maiden winner for that louisiana bread. The truth is the truth. The flat out philly what's What's next for her. She is hoping for a conditioned allowance at the fairgrounds to go forward to keep bringing state reds for the time being but She will end up very impressive winner or last race but Expecting to be able to run her before the month is out back. The fairgrounds and clark said some recent winners that houston Lightly so it's always good to get him in the winter circle without a doubt and one more recent maiden winner kentucky summer that tap it called the four year old but Nice to nice things you know. Finally graduate Beautiful individual phoenix's Like you said Very been very difficult to get a to turn dirt maiden race to fill for him and when it finally he came through and how much upside Is there at him. I think that the he needed that run as far as the have success. This training only so much for him and He he definitely has a bright future. Well steve a lot of a lot of good things obviously in the offing and from you know the stakes level through to the allowance and maiden winters and feels like you mentioned big weekend ahead between sam houston and oaklawn and the international opportunities. Safe travels for everybody. Hope everybody stays safe and warm through the difficult conditions and we'll catch up again soon. I appreciate the extra time. Okay thank you guys have a good week. Steve asmussen everybody and Obviously just a just a scary number of top performers that Are either you know. Just coming off nice efforts or going to move into the next level They didn't even ask about a couple of other Some of them had a bunch of maiden winterson at sam. Houston sure some of those will show up. I haven't looked ahead yet to the The texas card coming up this weekend but we'll certainly get with well. We'll have nick We're gonna talk about today's opportunities But we Will check in with chris griffin later in the week on the on the sam. Houston there's there's another like another five maiden winters that That i could ask about well. You heard you heard aspen. Who himself quite impressed with max 'field who remains perfect and brendon. Walsh is joining us. Now to talk about what might be knacks brendan congratulations. Thanks steve thank you very much. You know it's funny. What he wins. Now you see you see certain comments i. I don't know what what a horse is supposed to do. He's beaten everybody that lined up against them and he doesn't necessarily do it in jaw-dropping fashion ore. He doesn't do it Posting enormous figures but he just keeps winning and doing whatever you ask them. Yeah he does steve. He's he's horses. Done nothing wrong with them. you know we. We won't worry too much about what people think of of of how we doing He's impressed me enough anyway. So that's all that matters. You know we we uh very very very happy just delighted to have him back You know back in full hilton. He's he's showing. What we've we've always tossed back along that he was capable of doing it. This is the first time since his is two year old season that he has put you know to starts back to back without interruption. Debuted the maiden winner a churchill then went to keeneland to win the breeders futurity and then came all the you know all the difficulties In california leading up to breeders. Cup the matt win victory in may and then off until the tunisia so now he's got seeming to have some momentum as it were You know some thoughts You know it's what it's forty eight hours. Since how do you come out of it. Looks great steve. In came out of a great he wasn't You know we're back to the test born after he was wasn't even blowing this That hardy he he didn't really get tired and he seems golden fresh Since you know so we give them give them a few days here Walking in the on that and And then we bring them back to the track. Probably be wednesday now because we're in for some bad weather tomorrow and we'll go from there so that's good to hear and when it comes to the kinds of opportunities. I mean obviously got into the year goals in mind but You basically stay the course for now and the new orleans handicap. Were you give a little extra time and point toward something back in kentucky. I think so You know with We'll talk here this week. And and obviously see how he comes out of it put There's lots of lots of nice options here for the rest of the spring and into the summer. We we really want to just try and get a you know a con some continuity with this year if we can steve and You know. I'm sure he'll he'll take care of the rest but Yeah we've We don't really have a plan for the next race. Here is obviously a bunch of stuff going kick a lot of of races around but You know we should have more of an idea here and in the coming week or so it clearly. The the opportunity to you know to amass great one type credentials got to be a priority and In fact when you think about it given street senses presence You know for breeding standpoint Building up his resume For the long-term gotta to be the kind of the operating maximum. Yes i think so. You know you'd you'd like to win. Obviously we'd like to win at least at least another another grade one with an older horse. Now you know for for obvious reasons You know but Look just just thrilled app. And back. And i think he's just a nice horse on very very lucky to have them You know he's just a cool the horse to be around And it's just been a great experience so hopefully we'll have a lot of A lot of good days in the future as we move along with him well This is Pretty interesting scenario to have you know to have a an unbeaten. An unbeaten horse At this point and You know worry about you. Don't worry about staying on beaten. That's not the priority. But you just want to just look kind of looking forward. I think a lot of ways to you. Some big confrontations brendan. I think When he when he gets those chances He's got the great one he's got. What a great threes and the great one readership thirty so a great one is an older horse and some other classic distance. I suppose. I mean if we think about the end of the year obviously One of the big. You know one of the big golfer for the calendar year. Yeah i mean. Obviously to to the main goal would be to try and set him up for the graders. Company the end of the year if everything worked to To fall into place and and we can keep them healthy You know it was nice to get to get this Spring into him at the fairgrounds. You know it because when we came down here you know he was still only three things So you you know he he he he was lacking in seasoning. You know you know as well as two older horses take any sense of race experience. And and that's what he didn't have. And i think it's a nice to get these couple of races into him before we. He's beaten some nice horses down here but before we we start to take on the real you know. Obviously he. he shows for a grade one or grade. Grey to any graded stakes is to win. But you know if you're gonna take on them big boys you better You better have plenty seasoning in. And that's the thing he didn't have coming down here but now he's had two nice races. You know two very good experiences are able to run out on his home track. And i think that's going to stand to him an awful lot since as he moves forward. So mom referencing Street sense you know the idea of of him a massing the kind of record that lend essentially put him in position to mistreat sense. Street cents has got to be approaching. Let's say he's gotta be eighteen. Probably eighteen years old. Give or take so the chance the kind of step in behind his own sire at At darley and Meanwhile remains undefeated. I overall brandon. Obviously a pretty good pretty good saturday when we looked through the stakes results moon. Swag nice to get a placement for her. And the rachel alexandra and off the turf for extravagant kid There was not going to be any catching Michelle level and Just might we talked to her earlier and temple city terror with a tremendous effort in the al stall she ran. Ryan hyun steve. I pretty confident that. She she'd liked to the cotton the ground You know we had runner runner. Before with given even biden on her on the ground grown churchill last fall You know and and she was doing she was doing pretty good coming in here but yeah i mean to be honest cheat. She did surprise me how well she ran to get three quarters of the length the length on on al really was with a hell of a role that she seems like. She keeps improving. She's the nodding improves. We had her As the two year all these and Just keeps improving improving. And i i would hope that You know eventually somewhere along the line would be able to win a stake with a pretty But yeah i mean she's admirable. She's all her Yeah we've got a partner. Chris that Dave brown That is our are stable and kid chocolate. And he's He's got a hand in a bunch of pocket aces sources so. I'm sure i'm sure they were delighted with the with a placement like that. Absolutely yeah. they're they're great great bunch of people special to train for Yeah it's great to see you know the phillies Getting results like that for for them people. So except it's great and like i said you know she. She moved on. She seems like she's still. She's been improving all the time. And i don't think she's prattling. Jets john nice about how about the eight year old Extravagant kid You stayed in. And he's you know he's run on the main track and actually run fine. He's you know he's better on the turf but Still manage to add his record. He's he's amazing. That was his forty ninth career start and His thirty sixth career placement. Yeah no he's. He's a model of consistency. Steve or he. He hit a million dollars again. the other day in earnings lifetime. So that was that was great to get up today. you know. I couldn't say off about the horse. I mean just he shows up every time Miss the break a little the other day for whatever reason i think he just moved a little when when a They opened the gate a little farther. Back than what we. We anticipate with but You know the winter all credit to him. He's been solid horse All the time and we've run against him a bunch of times with a couple different horses so he iran you I don't beat them anyway. But well the dark you know there was some other night sources in val many. Warn that You know so it was. It was nice to get up and get a place when we saw in like. I said he's from from when we claimed him way back until now he's he's never lettuce celery shows off every every time so just a great Great hearts to have for a great current. Mr ross's has supported us miserably since we start So it's it's been great. We've had some good horses for and it's great to have Have had two kids. He's great fun. Well and i did see speaking of dar's llano One yesterday right at gulfstream. For them yet correct. Yeah his force We bought I bought him at the november sale last year. The horses and china and then i kissed away for either florida breaks over plug in ren thirty wells over the a good weekend all around well and I mentioned Moon swag placing able at at twenty four to one to get the black type in the rachel alexandra. And that's four That's for the law firm of king cone bryant and kirby. Yeah he's over here Over the weekend You know great people again and and We've we've had great fun with with her because she was she's been very tricky Mentally steve she's you know you hear in the paddock she gets. She gets pretty often do a lot of work on or just to get her to settle down and relaxing and she's a work in progress as well. They can get we. She getting a little better all the time. And and she's she's bringing out of the race tracking You know she. She's actually been been a good thing now and she's she's knocking and hopefully again. You know we can. We can win a steak with her somewhere along the line. Well that kind of catches us up on on the weekend There are some things to look ahead to which will talk about in a second. But i do want to catch up on some performances from the last two and a half weeks and that includes fells win in. The marshall was river but The worst that Up some there was plenty of discussion. About going into the weekend was prevalence and you know an inclusion in the derby future wager ends up taking a bunch of money. I don't know if you you in the barn jumped in to get prevalence down to fourteen to one i. I don't know about About any of the other guys that are coming from ireland we we intend to stay away from them and he posts song the way so It's nice to see it. It's nice to see that people think highly of the horses. You know we've got a. We've got a long way to go yet. So i'm going to hold off on my banning interest for now. He worked on e. He's worked a few times Since the performance since the win and most recently actually on friday Send him out five. Furlongs talk about you. Know preparations for for fountain. he He walked on friday and worked. Really nice Phoebe came out of the race At gulfstream the way you like a host the communal. He's he he seems like he's You know doing everything right. So far Like i said he worked well the other morning. So you know hopefully We'll have them back at the races here. That two or three weeks. Well so do you. Do you not have a stake in mind or you can just kind of for now. Well i mean you know. There's the obvious rate is in in. Florida was nights that he likes like streams. Because you know it can be attracted some horses act on some horses. Don't sell it was good to see him there. So obviously we'd we'd be kicking around you know the fountain of you. There's an allowance race a couple of days before us and you know celery probably like running back. Think if everything goes okay. Interesting all right. So you're you're on the fence for now anyway. All right Interesting We'll see i love it Well the dalai zero call out of the go sacramento godolphin home-bred watch and certainly those that that got down on the on the weekend They they're gonna watch with interest and hope that You know he. He takes the the logical next step. How about Looking ahead to tomorrow and in kind of a unique situation brendan. I had michelle level earlier. And now you chris. Block is next than al stall before we wrap up and all four of you have horses in the mardi gras tomorrow. And i'm sure like michelle. You hoping to keep this thing on the turf yeah. I don't know if you've been here at like now. I'm in the barn hammering delaware. All we go. I can hear it. Yeah yeah yeah so i. I'd be surprised if it stays on the On the park tomorrow pisa's horrible weather today and tomorrow stuff I would be surprised You know that vinnie of mine. She's she's run on dark people and and she's run well on the walk on the track here so You know. I think if it does come off you'll be you'll be fine too. Well yeah i can i can. That's pretty funny. i can hear it pounding down as we speak. Wow all right. That's too bad now before we go to how about how about a couple of the other stake runners in recent weeks including fells win in the marshalls river. Yeah she ran great Be she's really you know. We gave her a little time off after she ran into belmont. Cheater the just the game and She's really combat You know the feeling last year eighty eight. But she's i think she's really improved is here. She's a lot stronger. And just as a you know i. I just think she's a better better. Video wall could be an excellent. 'cause we ran our surrender soon enough At goes from the last days when she came back to back barring you she's she had been working so well i thought wasn't shots So i think she'd approve a lot which is in walking well since You know we probably have a good look at the from on fountain of youth as well earth excellent ab and since we're since we're kinda rounding up some of the other runners from the early portion of the gulfstream season cave hill. That frosted colt. That ran okay in dania. Beach worked yesterday. Did and he's he's But improved into random. The first time he'd be one tampa rent well in the state at called seeing the right thing and we probably take a good look at the cold sake with him on the on. The twenty seven alibaba accidentally right up the street. But i think he's he's improving basically You know he's a big brand varsity starting to stronger. Yeah we've spent father within. I printed it. Didn't it wasn't there another godolphin horse named cave hill. I don't know see. I think i think that own hardy had the first cave hill or a cave hill in the recent past. I'm pas i'm almost positive. This is a reuse name cave. Help that now On this at all Yeah might have to put a number to I've and i'm doing it now myself. It was mr melnyk had cave hill. Was that there was a jade hunter. Gelding at around two thousand two thousand and one looking at it here. Yeah jd dancer. How about that and their three time winner. I knew i the name just ring a bell and there was an international one too. There was an irish bred. Gave bill and if you go back to the nineties s there was the first cave hill was by gilded age. Pretty funny maryland. Will i love it. Well brendan just To round things out. Let me go back and i always get sidetracked. Doesn't take much to send me off into the netherworld here of racing. How about the The to maiden runners coming up. You've got Summer palace. This is on thursday and then coming back at fairgrounds on saturday no pedigree yeah Summer palace is you know he's been He's been a hard knocking. Little horse. You know he. He's he's been running. Well actually hurting the board. Every time he's drawn since we've had him so he's in again we've had it scratch him. I think twice already down here with With rain maybe three times even We're a little unlucky with the weather in the teams when whenever he's entered it rains but hopefully by thursday it loves dry out and we'll get to run them but he's a he's a nice horse and he he he'll be there or thereabouts for sure He's doing well walking well so the followed. Hopefully it will dry up thursday. And we'll get to run on to talk about on saturday and i see Cafe is Is it as well in an allowance on saturday. Yeah we've got per fans in two axes. He's doing well here actually. At the moment he ran well. He ran second to force. Vote his last star and he's been working well since i'd really like to win a race with them You know just for two races confidence level. A little bit You know he's he's been in all the all the big races Of lay so it'd be nice if we could get the win with them on saturday and then hopefully set him up for for a good year. But you know he. He's in other he. He shows up pretty much all the time you know. I don't i don't need to say walk. He's done for In the past he's just an event that supports ican can eat the another nights rate somewhere along the line. Well and then. Finally you got the louisiana bread The three-year-old by half hours This is for you and bottle rocket and marked the temple no pedigree which is kinda cute out of an intimate jeff mayor. Nothing wrong with that pedigree. He's he's an stoke had them. They'll go. Neil had been In california initially and he came over here for steak and he ran well in the state is only two and a half lengths in louisiana break Louisiana juvenile's Obviously he's still a maiden envoys were willing to sell them. It's always nice to have a decent louisiana break when you're at the fairgrounds so You know he he should he should have a good chance On saturday sees you know he. He's been doing so looking forward to running a lot of good things happening throughout the the barn for brendon walsh. and of course You can follow brendan on twitter. Bren p walsh sure you log on and stay warm. Stay stay safe dry everything else. Happy mardi gras. Even though it's going to be subdued again this year for hopefully hopefully twenty twenty two we can. We can boot up a a a nice mardi gras brandon. I think it's been tough on the on the people of new orleans You know this year having having had the whole the whole pig shop down You know it's obviously a huge deal down for them So hopefully you know like everything else in the world. Hopefully things start open back up here As we move forward and you know we all we all to get back to non normality here Hopefully as the year goes on exactly brendon walsh. Everybody and max field stays undefeated prevalence Possible for the florida for the fountain of youth at the plenty of other options and Tomorrow into mystic back in the mardi gras the probably off the turf brent. I appreciate it as always talk soon. Not no problems steve. Thank you for having me on. Always great brendon walsh. Everybody let's take a break two hours in the third hour to come. We're going to check in with chris. Block who is also involved. I pretty funny that four steak winning outfits from saturday in new orleans all coming back in the mardi gras. We'll talk to chrissy what he's doing with a winning envelope And we'll also get an update on charlie's penny who of course Got a little bit of a little bit of a and had to come out of the rachel alexandra but didn't stop. Didn't stop chris from winning the fairgrounds with captivating moon crisp block next nick. Tamra will do some recapping of the weekend with nick. 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6-22-20 NASCAR America at Home: Jeff Burton, Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Steve Letarte on Bubba Wallace's day at Talladega

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6-22-20 NASCAR America at Home: Jeff Burton, Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Steve Letarte on Bubba Wallace's day at Talladega

"And. Through A. Phone CBA, targeting rebel unharmed Judy your and Jeff Burton guys racing from Talladega cars were back on track Talladega this weekend. Five thousand fans could buy tickets and enter the race. Unfortunately, rain on Sunday postponed the race until Monday, but this was nowhere near the biggest news story of the week at Alex late Sunday. Our lease for mass reported that a crew member. Baba Wallace News in their garage Saul. Saul sometime Sunday afternoon Luneta learned on Monday morning. Nasruddin listed local FBI to help with. The investigation is the time line continues President Amass Starsky addressed the media. He could not elaborate a much on the investigation that whoever was responsible, would be banned for life from the car. That was all the news, but guys for me the moment really beginning when the drivers started Talladega Race Arthur stone the grid. Hush bubble bosses number four three to the front of the grid where Baba Wallace the next to his owner Richard Petty King with all the drivers in many of the crew members in attendance standing behind him in solidarity for the National Anthem. As, it was a moment amid around with score. Long time in that was one. That's those guys Sydney for a long long time that show solidarity from these drivers was amazing junior. What was your take on the whole situation I learned of the incident last night. I just couldn't believe what I was. Reading I just couldn't believe that somehow that had gotten into that area. How an immediately! Yori about how that did happen how it was allowed to happen. Who's responsible anything short of an idea of those responsible be a major disappointment and ideas critical to understanding. Out Happened, and then you know you think about Bubba in the load that he's carried for the sport of last several weeks. It's not an easy thing. We heard from him in the comments post-race. At he he's felt that the weight of that for for for many many weeks. It's great to see the support from the driver's. The Industry Steve Fails has done an amazing job as a leader for the sports. There's a lot of people rallying around. bubba but I don't know that any other really understands how that must have felt. And that worries me for bubble, not just because this physical safety, but his mental. Stability and Just. I know that he is You know feeding off of the support he is. He's responding to not only the sport from my industry, but this is four nationwide. He's responding well to that and we just need to keep. Protecting him, you know and keep taking care of him. he's part of our family and you know read a lot of comments on social media from other drivers and people in industry that that that he's part of our family and I. That very much very strongly. In He, it was It was really good for me personally to see and hear from him. Post race and to see a smile on his face. That meant a lot to me almost as much if not more than what we saw before the race started. Your difficult things to to deal with, and nobody's having a harder time with it and and put in a more challenging situation than Bubba. And I hope that he's feeling the love and support that he's that he's getting from our industry. This is sports uncovered the uniform crates that revolutionized college football. Make your picture of work. Light Spiderman on steroids. Subscribed to sports uncovered for free. Wherever you listen to podcasts, no one submit should be subjected to hate. No one should have to. feel the way that bubble Wallace Phil when he was given that news that is. Incomprehensible indefensible. Whoever did that is going to pay a huge price and they deserve to. you don't treat human beings like that. this sport is full of competitive people, but I know the sport to be a garage for the Compassionate people. And the solidarity shown above the Wallace. Before this race was remarkable where the driver's got together and said, we're GONNA stand behind our guy. He's our family. You don't mess with our family. And then all the crew members took that lead and followed him. And that's how much support the bubble. Wallace has but also how much support there is or the rejecting hate. And it was it was great to see our sport. People in that garage step up. And show the world not gonNA put up with. Stupid stuff. And I'm proud of everyone of them for making a stand bubble wallace does not deserve to be treated like that, nor does anybody in this world deserve to be treated like that I'm extremely proud to be part of the NASCAR family extremely vowed the leadership that the drivers took in the crew members followed That's what this is about. I didn't know what we're. GonNa, do but it didn't surprise me that they did something You know I just just horrific. What would happen? Loss should never be allowed to have anybody. I didn't. Read The Sunday night asking with the battery. I woke up to the news on Monday morning than I was in disbelief I didn't know what to think. I was angry I was upset. I was fearful for my friend Bob Loss. He must be thinking and you know. I had this mixed lotion that took. Me Through this roller coaster through the entire first half of the day, and it wasn't until that moment on the Grid pre-race that I realized that it was okay to be angry into. Be Upset because the floor Ford had for bubble was there. It was an amazing mullets. Matt was everything understand unscripted to appoint. It wasn't a NASCAR. Driver thing from everything. I've understood Jimmy. Johnson's mouth drivers got this summer sailing their idea to show their dreitzer the person that competing. They had no problem competing against him on the racetrack. But when the race is over there, humans their friends, they rates in the same sport and I. think that was a crowd moment for Nascar. Show that everything that's happening last two and that's what I want to take a minute. Step back even further. Me Personally. Thanking he's kind of been my guiding light to this situation, Robert Trying to listen and learn Reviewing commerce issue had on odd. CASS continued every time I've seen bubba in the media when I've talked to him personally when on social media, he's been a great opportunity. Great person for me to lean all learned. I've grown up in the world of NASCAR over detect naked is now and what Bubba has really shown of us in educated. All of us on this change that is coming that needs to comment needs. And then what happened down Talladega in the garage area is just more proof that there's work to be done, and then what happened on the grid out to your point? was a special moment because it was a group of people that were saying. You know what we believe in this guy. We support this guy. He said in his interview. He called it a burden. isn't earn. He may not use those words accent. Imagine the pressure. He is under to carry this load. Educate all of buses as yet so many others. It was a special moment especially now, Senator Junior. You mentioned it was unbelievable. I know that you've had a conversation all the way back on your podcast. What's last release you firstly last germ? Yeah, I mean you know it has been Has Been A roller coaster? For the entire industry, but I I WANNA, say that. One thing that's. Different this this go round. One thing that I've been in the sport for a couple of decades, and there's been conversations about confederate flags and and social issues before. In our sport. This time I never heard. The drivers speak as loudly as they have. With their own messages. I don't think that I had ever seen the. The stern support from our our president. And executives in NASCAR. I've never been more confident in the leadership in our sport than we have now. It worries me. to see bubba under so much stress, but. I know that. He he has so many people supporting him that are his peers, and he has the support of the industry. And I mean the guys at the top. Really had their hearts behind this really change in this sport and going in a new direction, a better direction I believe. In. That wasn't there before. You know that I've been I've been around the sport and I haven't seen I haven't seen that type of support in the past so. That gives me some hope. And, So! This kind of rolls on in the conversation continues, I love hearing. Our drivers particularly speak on it. And and I'm glad that they are a lot of them are. You know willing to to share their opinions and motions and support what's happening? This is Mike to Rico, introducing you to sports uncovering when I lou the motivation to prove something as a basketball there as half to move away from the game of basketball quote unquote. I'm back. I'm back to word facts and Michael Jordan announcing the most famous comeback in NBA history. That's the most impactful two words ever don't Miss. An episode subscribed to sports uncovered for free wherever you listen to podcasts. Of A a worldwide prices right while all this is going on, and and we were in I think it's fair to say we're in uncharted territory. With everything that's going on in the whole world and sports. Have a way of unifying people and I think that's what I was most proud of the day is that. That that sign of solidarity, and that sign of unity, and that sign of togetherness standing with bubble Wallace representing the entire sport because. We can't do as a sport is put this all on Wallace right. It's not fair to him. We, we have to whether wear. The somebody's doing something horrible to anybody. We can't stand for it. And it's not fair to put all this on. bubba Wallace shoulders for one person to carry that whole load and he needs to know there's an industry that's willing to help. Carry their junior. You just said you know there's people that are willing to help. Carry the load. It's too much for one person to carry, and every body is here and I thought today showed that all today was. I don't know the driver's down any better to stand with bubble walls to stand against hate It was just it was just a great day to see it, and it's what sports can do right. It's sports sports incredible way of bringing people together that are from completely different backgrounds from different parts of the world, all with a common goal to compete and win fans in the. The stands full Loria pulling against you. That's that's what sports are about, and it can. It can heal. It can help heal and i. just you know race was awesome. We saw a great race today, but but bigger than that was the statement made by the driver's by team by NASCAR itself just a big day for the sport and a day. Everyone should be proud. If I can if I can also add to that you talked about the race and how how great race? It wasn't really was a fantastic, then I never. been as nervous watching racing as an observer I really was caught myself sort of. Surprised at how? Nervous, I was toward the end of that race for everyone involved, and just how house playing out I want to mention Bubba again and his performance. Since we came back from our break the pandemic. And especially in the last month or two. certain the last several weeks. BUBBA is driving with so much. Emotion in spirit. You know he's. He's taken the emotions that he's feeling and channeling them into his performance. And I'm seeing. I'm seeing a driver in a guy. Really growing up extremely fast, maturing right in front of us and and putting things together on the race track. that. You know that I hadn't seen that team. Able capable of doing in the past. And that is that is inspiring watches. Wail him driving that car. Into lead today. was just such a special moment to watch. You know. A lot of he had a lot of people pulling for him today. You know that and to be able to see him up there and being competitive. That means a lot to him. There are bigger things going on in his life. But it'd be able to go out there. And perform and run like he wants to run like he's always wanted to run. This is his dream race in the Cup series. Has To be specialists will. Stay see. Can I have one more thing real? Quick Up. Richard Petty. You know these staying away from the racetrack you know for for obvious reasons, cove nineteen, and all those things saying to hell with that I'm going to the racetrack I'm GonNa. Go Racetrack and show my man that I'm supporting. I thought that was a huge thing, too. I mean added. That should not be left unsaid. Because Richard Eddie aren't born of the tracks. You know for obvious reasons in Richard. Petty he said I'm going to be there. No matter what I'm coming and I thought I thought that was from the King of our sport. Is the king. For him to be there today I thought was really really great. All been far of the scored a long time when I've seen in the last two weeks is a sport that is ready to change. They found a way to get back on track. The world didn't ask sports. Then the next hurdle was, and they have found a way with Bob loss helped leadership in fouts, listening enacting and supported the driver's the owners you mentioned. Richard Petty Dale Jr. you mentioned drivers. It takes an entire industry of course and I believe this industry has. Announced, not talk it's real change. The ball is moving I think that all started with the walls taking this leadership role, and if you leaders Nash, Heart Listening in industry. Supporting him in his movement. I know all report the social media. I have no problem saying stand with bubble wallace proud of the moving. He's doing Dale Junior I. Know You feel the same way, Jeff Bergman feel the same way? Today was a major day for Nascar and had nothing to do with the racing on the track. The major moment happened before the arts enrolled Baden's proudly for national along.

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Episode 20-10 SNK Fighters with Ed Wilson!

Rhythm and Pixels Video Game Music Podcast

1:41:27 hr | 1 year ago

Episode 20-10 SNK Fighters with Ed Wilson!

"Hello and welcome to rhythm pixels tools a video game music podcast episode Twenty Dash Ten and we are your hosts. My name is Rob Nichols Fry Tomato Fried Green Tomatoes. How's everybody doing wait? You can't answer that because you're listening but Texas how. Oh you're doing. Let us know. Great text personnel to five five four three two one votes now on the video game music. podcast we'd listen. Listen to great video game music of consoles and all generations and timelines timelines me occasionally timelines When the tech works this this is not one of those episodes in fact Cornell I have a surprise for you. Is it time travel did you. Did you ask you stick. Think back into your your past pernell someone who meant a great great deal Tio Santa Claus all right now listen to this voice and see if it rings a bell low per so now I know I know I know this looks bad. Look I know I requested that garbage. Bill Kid Yeah I requested Messy Tessie and always hard together and I appreciate that but giving me please give me more time. I don't know I can't be reaped yet. I had things I need to you. Do Ladies and gentlemen it is Ed Wilson of the Fiji Embassy. The Prime Minister and Cornell's fourth grade geometry teacher. Apparently the crossroads demon across my garbage. Bill I don't have the accent. Tend to be a crossroads demon but I'm honored to be here is always guys. Thank you so much for having no thank you. Hi How are you doing tonight. I am doing well. We Have a cool little show the cool little theme that I just kind of came up with it was a shower thought. One day I was like. That's all smart about this. Yes so nope. We're doing S. N. K.. Fighting game you start over. You GotTa tells the brand of soap you go back into the shower start there and then solo new Louis. Use anything but swab. They're really now we're talking and stuff you are what you wash yourself with right now and you are what you slava's Irish Spring Laddy and I'm not fully clean unless I'm zest fully clean uh-huh anyways so yeah I mean I was. I was listening to some music and randomly. A really good track came on and it. It was from an essay fighting game and I was like Oh man rob lives fighters and I like fighters and personnel like music. It back Yup hit. Let's get together and do K.. Fighting game episodes so I contacted you guys and you were like yeah. Let's do it so get back in the gym for this big upcoming fight or whatever for like six months ago and it was like oh how about this week now. How about next month How about next month? I gotta say man between the holidays and our our anniversary episode two hundred episodes all the events that we've been doing I have my my scheduling is way out of whack. I'm I'm looking forward to things slowing down a little bit so yeah well as we get towards the holidays. I don't I don't know if that's going to happen but we can. We can always cross fingers Rosa. Anything I don't think slowing down is gonNA happen for a long time. I guess not I guess not busy. He's doing nothing. What can you tell us a little bit about the VGA embassy and what's happening there? Like wh. What are the latest ambassadors that you've received yes absolutely the V.? GMC is going strong. Were in our second year now. Episodes are crawling up into the forties and the fifties so we are really cranking rankin along. We've got let's see who's been on lately Gene from pixelated audio just came on to do a second volume of our metal gear solid kabiri essay. I love gene shallow. Both guys from pixellated audio. They are awesome dude. Excellent guys and gene is a walking encyclopedia of all things metal gear solid. So if you're a fan end of that series check those episodes out you'll learn more than you ever needed to know about metal gear solid Let's see I've had Dan lawn on has been a big contributor due to the GM seen as of late we did Juliana challenging games speed running and beaten really hard stuff so join me for that. That episode was definitely up my alley. He's got a point bad out all right. It's like vinegar and water get together gotta hear this Daniels got a great podcast voice to yeah. Yeah no he was great to have him back on again so no he's he's been a good friend of this show Recently I agreed to help them with some game stuff and I'm doing some music for podcast. He's doing with his wife I think so. Yes yes and. I'm going to be editing that forum. So that's another kind of collaboration going on there. We find out like so you know kind of around the way each helping somebody else. I'M GONNA listen you'll be you'll be guessing topic is like hey this show is about you know or in policy. I think it's hard down knows tons about that. Come on parenting gets going to be about parenting. Oh that'll be holy. Yeah that'd be great gift. The kids are really acting up. I figured just give them more. Can't because basically sugar rushed there's going to collapse and that's a good night's sleep the girl immune to it become immune to yogurt afar listeners. Go to the G. M. Bassey VGA EMBASSY DOT COM for more information about that. It's a great show. I really enjoy listening to it. You have a much longer format than we do because you go like every two weeks right. You're able to really get deeper into do things and listen to a lot more music great and I do have something new that I'm working on that I'm going to tease at the end of the episode of. That's cool with it lemon cello. It's might be new podcast. So what is it about Lemon cellos. Then it's not about lemon shallow. Yvonne Ed Ed you will learn. How To ferment podcasts? If he could podcasts now do is turn it into alcohol. My my wife actually made her own lemon cellos. And you know my son is named Logan so we called it. Why have two sons Eddie and Logan we call it crazy? Eddie's Logan Cello Hi like it. Oh my gosh so tomorrow. We're recording today before Thanksgiving Tomorrow is the day that a lot of us like to eat until we feel sick except for me. I'm eating a mouse. I'm I'm proud of you. I'm not but I got teased. The Gym. Come on eat them. Yeah yeah you need the calories. You're you're crashing right now. Yeah but that'll pay off later. This dumb you know. Focus on the Turkey unless on the stuff and get the protein and not the CARBS. You should be good Ed. I'm opening for Fried Catfish. Sounds to wish the fellows because when I have in the past and too much. My aunt provides an APERITIF. Not F- APERITIF. What that is it's an after dinner shot of alcohol that helps to settle? I got an booze statically. SCHMOOZING and losing la don't usually drink a lot but On thanksgiving I will. I'll have a couple and feel nice and toasty warm. Because it's going to get a little cold settlement but I do have I gotta ask on the topic even before we even get to the topic proper so since Thanksgiving what is your typically. Most anticipated table occupant in the food variety of the food. Right wait a minute. So guessed that we're going to have no unless we're going to talk to food. uh-huh I'm fine with with that Oh sweet potatoes for me for sure. I love potatoes for me. It's always stuffing stuffing gravy on it. It's the best. Can't get enough. You probably look a Gablers for sure that if you've never had one you have to find one place. Seldom did you just say that you look like a gablers. No you probably like the gablers like it looks so much like him. No they think it's a sub regional is it's it's gotten around probably goes by other names and other places because because here's called called the Bobby Bobby while I was Gob ler but it's generally the same premise. which has got their own thing? Yeah it's all pretty much the same thing booze booze of Bobby's yes and still be Bobo. So Turkey stuffing gravy WANNA say mashed potatoes Wa wa Wa. We'll throw sweet potatoes and there's two okay. cranberry sauce on a roll based Sandwich. Yeah they think all of your Thanksgiving leftovers into a giant sandwich. which around here? It's just called the Thanksgiving Sandwich even if it's like the middle of July and you're getting one they still call it a Thanksgiving Sandwich. The governor hasn't made its way period around the Philly area. We have to have like cool names for everything. This is the Jimmy. What is it? It's pickles and fried catfish. I would eat both of those things. I'm fine with that. Yes you need to Jimmy Butler. Jimmy Cobbler. Yes so I don't know what that is but yes I need. It can't inpatient. Oh my gosh. Where's the show about again? It's about starting at dinnertime All right so our episode today is all about the music of s n que fighters so not just not just the music from Fighting Games on the G. O. S. K.. Developed Fighting Games on the mainly the NEO. Geo If we're lucky and I think we've all picked music from across the The ages of the system because because the the the NEO GEO system was around for a very long time. Wake when everyone was doing three games. Neo Geo is doing like huge beautiful sprites nights when people were doing like the are games that people were doing all sorts of Ray Tracing Neo Geo is doing beuge beautiful spreads and I still get my love the system to literally every year once or twice a year. I didn't applauded with neo. Geo Celebration of just play neo. Geo like you started doing this. I'm like you're like oh I got I I gotta go out tonight. I'M GONNA be out all night long like all that's right. You have like you in a bunch of neo Geo enthusiasts like for like for hours and hours all night long just play played Neo Geo Games. Yeah last time I went. I got home at like five thirty in the morning. It's time for bed still got it except I totally back into like mud mound and like packed Mike Sauce with mud. Yeah that was fun stuck. I was in the middle of the highway. Twenty degrees with a fricken screwdriver digging mud out of my exhaust pipe who it was great. Man That was I felt really bad for again. How late and cold at night was? But now it's a story. That's the beautiful thing wrapping crappy. Things happen it sucks the time but once you're through it all and you're not concerned about lasting damage to your vehicle. It's a cool story this one. There was that one time I car exploded on the highway. It Oh my God. There's more time I forgot to get an ice scraper and obviously nineteen and so my car got covered in ice and sleet and I had to get a credit card like scrape off the ice off with a credit card. That was great. That was a good night. Everybody that's what you do when you're a dumb teenager. Maybe think about that. You'll be ready for this waiting at ties in the day allowed. Show even if he wasn't just randomly us this story so when I was a child I was Dorky. Kid who thought he was smart. I was smartish and One winter day it got rather IC- outside and I thought it'd be nice son in clear on the ice off of my father's Oldsmobile. All the ice off of his car with a shovel full metal all know that comes home from work. You know like Dad. I cleaned your car for you. Would he goes car as that. All the snow had been the melting. A bit better so you could see the actual service of the car. There was just like these slashes I. I destroyed his car that shovel. Oh my God and I am amazed. I am alive right now because he he actually didn't get mad he somehow held. He was so proud that you were going to. You're just trying to be helpful. Sounds like a bad looking back on it. I know he was really upset but he was like thank. You sign appreciate it replaced in the car with a year to like it was really bad. I like that story and it makes me makes me me. Think about moving to the west coast all right so let's get started with some music and we'll we'll talk some more stories. So as is our the tradition. We like to start with Ed. Ed Will you lead us in prayer. Say What you're thankful for and place an S. N. K. music. I am thankful thankful for Terry Bogarde and all of his amazing fatal Fury Games. And so we're going to start off with. Trek hold. Sunrise is on the train from Gatto mark of the wolves on the neo. Geo and this one is composed by Masako Horiuchi Yasuhiro Nakasone ACA Hero who Cheetah Okon and chew. Jiro High Yeah. They said the storm but then I realized that my wallet was hold had no money to get no guitar Utah. waterboarding wanted saxophone really really good sunrise on the train from the mark of the wolves house pronounced garbage. Don't question my pronunciation on it's a Mark of the wolves and composed by again I guess yes a hero. NECA Akihito Okon and zero famous. Q Zero q zero. Yeah this is this is like I mean immediately started saying because this is straight up classic rock it really likes like late. Eighty s early ninety s rock era. Where there's a lot of saxophone really reminded me of like Blues Brother's definitely you see them rocking out to something like this? Why whoever out whoever out there does Senate typically sits? BGN Karaoke events. Take this track and save it right the heck now because all my God begging for something. I'll buy gosh. The EXA phone is so synthetic that it's impressive. You know like their their pitch pitch bending and stretching and but yeah but the the guitar samples are really good so we get this kind of like weird combination of really authentic sounding guitars really fake aac sounding saxophone like I wish that would have just like emailed these guitar samples to Capcom when they made make an accident. Mike here get rid of your. It's very simple but these megabanks expert was still pretty iconic guitar sound. I guess not exactly my cup of tea. So we talk a little bit about the neo Geo fighters so the neo. Geo System is four buttons system so in the wake of of street fighter. Two's immense popularity lots of people. Lots of companies are out there trying to also make their mark like hey we can do fighting games. We can capitalize on this crazy. That's happening right now in the arcades but into the six buttons on on their machines all the machines only had four buttons so that is a big big uh-huh a mainstay of Essen K fighters Essen k the arcade units. Were already out before three five or two came out. Just they didn't have fighters I thinks. Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah so. And then and then as they kept making the games the only had four buttons like they never expanded the buttons on on the cavs. Another big draw of these games are the sprites are always almost always very large. Very they have is. The art style is very specific. If I knew more about this or care to do research. ooh ooh I would probably know the artists names but they're very specific and A lot of the Games specifically with simmering showdown of the camera would zoom in consume out at specific pivotal moments and also enlarge the playfield. And so. That's that's what you get a lot of Essen K fighters and And also for people who who play a lot of fighting games a lot of these games are built on what we call rush down gameplay. It's all about getting really really fast to get that. I hit in and then combine calling from there. It's not about playing defensively and parrying waiting for your moment. It's all about just jumping in and being really fast about and it's funny. I love those like. I'm not good. At fighters. Writers separate like very rebels was always a piece. But but mostly I'm not gonNA fight whenever I play with these guys and all essence fighters they all just kinda bleed together. He ever for me. I'll just choose a character who seems weird or fast man just like you said just Russia speaks sprint. Jump come in with a low rushing punch and discern. We're GONNA come from wherever makes sense like that's what I love about like. He's Essen Kagan so that you can hit forward twice a lot of them and they just take a short hopper dash. It's like a run. Yeah Yeah for from a technical standpoint like all the new games were basically arcade boards like house in plastic. Yes and and the awesome thing about the system. Is that most other systems. They had to compress all of their files. And then unimpressive on the fly while they're while you're playing the game with Neo Geo Jio everything was unimpressed. So there's no like decompression that so that's why everything is just so fast and why the system lasted for so long because they found ways to just fill will the system's memory with tons and tons of sprites that can move really really fast. And that's what made it so good for fighters that he didn't have to worry about extra computational cycles or background while you're characters were running around and doing moves on each other and why all these backgrounds like I know the rhythm pixels livestream you guys had some backgrounds from that are like animated and so you'd have really animated backgrounds that were far surpassed anything you'd see on like street fighter two mortal Kombat and then these really nicely Eh. Well animated characters running around in front of it so the whole game just looks like a work of our according to slake a trademark or the leader Neo Geo style course. That worker work came at a cost because war. Yeah yeah those things are expensive. Although I did play I mainly play Guerrero on the dreamcast. When I came out on that system and I sold offer pretty penny? Let me for all our younger listeners. Who Know of the Neo Geo but prior from there with just what we're talking about we say Wolf we're not talking about the mark of the wolf though we could be hitting on what you're looking to buy but if I remember correctly you guys can correct me if I'm off on this? I want to say the console was six one hundred dollars each game rain two to three hundred. That sounds right to me because I remember like that thing where it was like one a whopping one kid in another neighbor can sure wasn't mine. Who actually owner neo Geo and he had like two gates for it he still was treated like royalty? It was written into the kids whose parents handed out full candy bars on Halloween. Exactly bars every fifth bar was reading a five dollar bill. That would make you sick almost eat it. I remember one guru came out and I was. I was surprised iced that it was still on the Geo. Like I was amazed that the because this is a time when I was playing third strike and I was playing Yeah like a tech in all these other the game so But it's amazing. Terry Bogarde is older in this in this version and he looks really cool. Actually yes so. At the beginning of the game he kills Geese Howard. WHO's like the big bad from the whole fatal fury series and this is like a little cinematic at the beginning of the game and he likes drops? Geese Howard off this cliff and then he looks over. There's this little kid who ends up being geeses son Rock Howard. Oh yeah and so he he basically trained like there's this like training montage as the Intro to the game of Love Terry Training Rock Howard how to fight and so the game starts when rock Howard is old enough to enter fighting tournaments himself. So he's kind of like the son of Geese Howard is the main protagonist and the game. Pretty cool want. They weren't looking into and we always come across later in the episode is win exactly. They stopped developing age from the jokes. I feel like I keep coming across gains like Puccini out like that's a game I play thing at never heard of until that event and I think that may have been one one of if not the last produced Neo Geo game but I'm almost positive came out in the two thousands which blows my mind so I am genuinely curious. Like when they stop when he polysaccharide recent neo. Geo Games with that system was powerful enough to run over multiple generations. Oh Yeah I think I think the the developers played to its strengths to again with the The the young compress memory but I think that they like they just knew the hardware developers. They've developed a lot puzzle games on a lot of fighting games. A lot of beat em ups. Ah So like maybe they just knew the market. And it's also like did they the operators they could buy their CDs CVS ESP she CVs K.. Arse CPS appraisers how remember later forget but those those to the cabinet essentially had just new system inside of it so either it was a CD system or it was so the envious envious thank you. CPS is where I would go by BANDAIDS I got locked onto. That acronym never walked away but do you put cartridges in the system so it was so as an arcade operator. It was relatively inexpensive. David end up charging a lot less All right so I'M GONNA start with my first track I'm actually going to go away from the new system and go to the NEO. Geo pocket color. This is from the king of fighters are one. This is cool. Jam which I think is the theme of Yori Yami For the NEO GEO pocket color by the S. K.. Sound team which is how Ya Takuji. Mussa Masako Mari Mio and Ashi. Who is he? Yuki Ashes Ashes Iowa and needs. It's lotion and his. Yeah uh-huh mm-hmm Eh. Yeah uh-huh listen to cool jam from the game. King of fighters are one for the neo. Geo pocket color composed by the SEC. Team Makuuchi Yamamoto GonNA use TACO. Oh Marina Oh and he day Yuki ashes our in his Ashi so I think it has to do with a lot of these different composers probably originally composed the tracks for some of these characters from the original titles now the arrangers could have been and one the original composer or another composer. But it's kind of hard to tell because they weren't always credited on the soundtracks released a lot of at the time all you see is credited as sheen sex KYW CAC Yoku Sukey. Then which is the S. K.. Sound team for the New World Music Performance Performance Group the Neo Geo Music Performance Group. So a lot like Dot Com team a lot like zoo. Totta for Taito. You'll just you'll just have guess who did what. But I love this because I love funky chip to this passage of the good groove. Yeah sounds like it would have Glenn Beck procreate fucking ice states this coq absolutely yeah this kind of cool icy track Takuji high mood as the guy that did What was it like a neo turf masters metal slug and undercover cops so a lot of that really funky chip tune stuff so he might be the composer that originally wrote this too because it really sounds like this kind of stuff I am? You said. Yeah 'cause you remove okay cool immediate. He was first on the credits. As High Ya AH exclamation point. That's his name. He did a super type on the SNES. I'll give you a turf masters. I I never played that if you play that. Play it all the time I see that again at that big I was at of course we had to have tournament in and of course I had to be young hero because by far the dumbest name never eight golf character. Young David Young hero like everyone else has like similar like pseudo names or whatever but he is little young hero and I cave and get wrap my head around it makes you want to write an entire story for neo turf masters like maybe he is the hero. Maybe golf courses under siege takeout protect all those play styles is actually their code named for the secret organization were technician expectations for him to be this big hero and it was like no. I want to play golf. But that doesn't that's not what your name is. Name is young hero Turco. Do the love that you know you're you're supposed to join the military and then become like an elite member of like this secret government organization but then like go off often like do your own thing and then take missions for like a you win. I don't know I'm trying to the story about really bad improvise like no. I just want on a pair wear plaid pants and a little fuzzy meaning on the top of my thirty just turned out. Man Just turned out to be the best of both worlds because he's actually on a secret mission and he just didn't realize it when he got to the court he was to play a game and it turned out. There was dangerous. Devious stuff going down. And they brought him on board in me that wait a minute. Is that young hero rope. Perfect timing your mission. You're being drafted now. The Utah Measures as as a as a fast paced golf games at right really if anything it plays like any typical arcade golf game or like a Mario Golf type game. The only difference is I think the music that were typically used to hearing in the gain. Rain gives the impression of being pretty fast. Oh because it's energy to behind you know it'd be reminded me of like hotshots golf but in sprite form. Yeah it's exactly like those style games. All those Arcadi are off Arcady Golf Games. That's the thing that in the sticking around so everyone tries to mimic that sound is very very rare. We'll come across like the semi style Wednesday like a Tiger Woods. In fact I was tired was the only game entail for Sim Gulf. Oh yeah absolutely I used to play like PGA tour and stuff like oh my old like three eighty six where you would have to draw the screen really slowly really hit the ball and then it would just disappear and then it would just be green minute withdrawal a tree tree Majolica and you'd WanNa move three degrees to the left left and they would have to draw the tree we're We're very a spoiled now. With a three technology that we have built into our systems but man and mortuary soccer Zakharova hitting those golf course linked to like play speed golf and Mario Golf with him pushing you down the course. Oh you're going to motor it's really level so cornell what is your I S K fighting game track. Well I think I'M GONNA go with this one because given that you pick track you did. I think it's the perfect paying into that and I'll talk about. WHY IF MITT COM vet tracking question happens to be from the Game Neo Geo battle? Coliseum is the theme to the Antenna Stage Imposed by the Sea Samuel team into. I could gather I came across hippo saying Yasumasa Yamada was the head composer for this project so I just went. I like it I like it. I like a man who takes charge Brown. Well then tell you about the way that I go. Oh about tackling my kitchen. We'll talk about that and we'll come right back and yeah yeah It uh-huh Yeah so the most important thing about all of this was the fact that throughout the entire entire process to keep telling myself you can do this man. You can do this because I was just consistently having issues with grout and issues with Desi just tried to keep keep is entire process underway. I wasn't getting out at all. It was just a it was a very annoying ordeal but you know what was important is that I accomplished my goal. I was out of money and I told people told me I couldn't do it to suck and egg and it was fantastic but I think the important thing is that you showed everybody. That's sure everybody who didn't I don't believe in. You can remodel your kitchen. That's right baby weight. Who are we still talking about? Kitchens yes what is going on the F. K. battle battle coliseum kitchen that would be a TATA's stage from Essen K. Neo Geo Battle Coliseum composed by the SEM K.. Sound team and with Yasser Modest Yasumasa. Yamada had composer. So why did I pick nick this track not just for the show but also right now well two things one track is a brick banger. I mean by disagrees with that is just wrong and I'll tell them to their face I love this track today. And as you guys referred to it as the B section that is the section Du Jour. Yes see that lead guitar comes in and Oh man. The might my the back of my neck goosebumps. We'd leasing meals on that. One for Shark untitled goosebumps Super Super Super. Get Andy Secondly Oh in a second. So you're fixing your kitchen at the time you see reminded at that time like so. Even though I don't play a ton of fighters I'm not really good at approach them. That doesn't mean I don't play them at all. It doesn't mean I don't have a favorite character and damn this track was chosen because one of my favorite characters is in this game where I learned to her. Maybe you only game. She's in Think about it name is a out. Maybe I I have no clue. Wait Hall Albuquerque. Keep talking so think you're talking about. She is a cool character because she is one of those things. Like the make a sixteen to your like government agent or this is only in this game yet. She has a backwards cap cool clothes as she fights with a neo Geo pocket color. That's her weapon is amazing. She Summons Tetra knows Oh video game characters to fight with their own screed. Okay it's amazing. Well how would you like to learn more about. Ai Yes okay. I know little. She is seventeen years old was off by one year. She was born in neo. Geo World Breath. Of course you had She is an agent of federative government of New Japan. Okay see now. The important things are her likes and dislikes. So that when you go on a date with you know light color. So she likes homemade games gaming centers in in rare roms. Okay okay. She doesn't like she doesn't like citations and losing to a perfect victory so you have a lot in common there for those who are listening. She was seventeen when this game. Now she's like in her late twenties early thirty so there we go. I want you think about a restaurant she had her. Favorite food is a fatty salmon. I would he bet her best. Sport is bowling okay. I'm terrible bully and her. Fighting style is new Japan. Martial arts with her customized neo uh-huh pocket. That's all I'm sure. She's only practitioner of that Barcelona styles that is insane. This is this is an official like profile put out by. Sm Gave Save the character. Probably I'm looking at the quickie which attend me. I mean is the Bible got off. These Apple Splash excrete archaic characters. Picturing a bunch of texts in the right so come from that so she was only in Battle Coliseum. She had a couple appearances on mobile games. A couple of mobile games and and she had a cameo in maximum impact to give. This is the only time that I've ever seen a video game. Company acknowledged the existence. Karam's really neat. Weird legit man. Oh it's neo Geo World New Japan. They are this weird by hi definition right. Yeah but just imagine the game where you're filing a typical fighter like think like king of fighters basically but as you're fighting this candidates. She's like pushing buttons on this thing and all all of a sudden a frigging l.. Block disappears above your head and drops down is that it's I I. I saw that characters were played fighters. Fight him on. Wapiti fired the character indefinitely. A- silly character I played with an anti game and I had fun with main at work all right per nell thank you for this track. Thank you for introducing us. Welcome before except after I was before. He the Ed Ed. So we're onto your less important is the except after c lesson unless it goes it was named neighbor or way Oh. I don't know that one I learned from Disney's tailspin probably on Disney. Plus Right now oh man. I'm GonNa Watch that tonight. I saw dark wing duck on there. I guess. Mainly Darkman Duck. I am the spoon that has been sneezed on for your. I'm going to say something that is like in most old guy with no kids thing I've ever said that I saw frozen for first time like a week ago. Wow that's understandable. I still have. It was all right. I don't have any plans to either. It was the last thing hangings living snow may for some. Yeah you gotTa have something like that. Anyway I'm Ed your first pick if you please. I mean my second your second your your second pick of of the game frozen cows seal I also speed else this is let it go and snes format right now super. ACTUALLY WE'RE GONNA go brand new With my second pick. So this is Finn of invincibility which has helford offers theme. This is from Samurai showdown twenty nineteen. which is so new that it's on the Ps Four xbox one and hasn't even been released for the switch which yet but it's coming soon lonzo credits for this one sound producer was credited as Masato Horiuchi and then composers Hideaki Asanaka. Mayuko are you co Hino. Naoki Kita and Minoru Sasaki and then Akihito Naza Caracazo and more from north sound and Kensuke Inau Gay and June June hoshina as Samurai musicians as opposed piece of. I'll like a football team worthy composers. I love that. They're the same musicians the musicians due to allow for that recording to compose music and save the day The yeah yeah off. Why this was Vince? Ability Helford theme from Cimarron showdown two thousand eighteen people calling it. The kids are gone by a slew of composers. We'll we'll start with Masato Horiichi and we'll we'll we'll just refer to the liner notes of the podcast Later on but wow you and personnel are like just destroying the show with excellent music. Mass right is dropping bombs love it. It's a it's a Rockin show too. We've got lots of hard rock going on this one I picked because she odes ever since ever since the bushido blade two soundtrack of really big fan of like a chord rock mixed with traditional channel Japanese instruments. And this one just connects on that level and sounds so so good so many departs crazy. It opens with like you can really here the other that Koto that Japanese strength traditional instrument. I think it's a Coda and it's going going going and everything's mixed so that's just as loud as Guitar Dr. But that's second again the B. Section with that that lead guitar them and Melody and in that harmony. It's incredible and obviously I feel like between this and the visuals. They came back with Samurai showdown huge way. Like have you. Have you seen it in motion like wager you did. Could you describe that one character but uh have you seen it in motion Bra and the game. Yeah Yeah it looks. Beautiful Game is gorgeous like showdown has always been a looks. Always look amazing. When I was a lot younger I would only ever see Semih. Showdown at the beach like the beach. Arcades and sorry the microphone keeps like Droop Inc.. It was. He's an ivy pro from his back even at a time. Just thinking about Thanksgiving dinner. Maybe it's time to retire. The catfish fish microphones unretire. The Mike Been But then I remember seeing when I was a kid at the beach and every time I was like oh I love streetfighter but this is a game where you actually fight with weapons and always always blew my mind like how quick the matches were And how like you had to really think about when you were going to attack when you were going to run away your statement just maybe think of two things one. I always as much as I love playing them. I always kind of lacked the idea of like weapons base fighters primarily Eh. Debbie's guys who plays doing like five hit combos and just Oh. That was nothing. Just got fricking murder. Multiple Times in one fell L.. move the more and more. They make the make the moral combat series like realistic with realistic models. And stuff the more. I'm like. No no no. You just can't rip the guy's heart out it'd be like now. He's fine. Don't punch the guy in the face. Have that close up with a skull cracking but it's not a finishing move so he's getting right back up by those go ahead should be just caving in itself. I think eventually later on when I I firstly bushido blade on the playstation was when I started to really appreciate she ate like the idea of really quick fast game play like fast meaning like Games could end very quick. And I'm glad you said that was the second thing I was gonNA bring it was it makes me think about one a return of glee because it does get a lot of love back in the day. Oh man didn't people didn't like it for the exact reason you decided that you didn't likey. And I also liked the reason these characters who are unique in their own weapons such the end one strike. Does it like well. That's Kinda how should be really. I mean if you get a pretty gruesome striking. They're getting exactly. Yeah you could take out limbs. said he can't walk or they can't use their arm. Ed Have you ever played a game called dive kick. Yes yes yes love that game. I've never been able to play it with somebody else. It's always been one player but I've seen matches at tournaments events and that game is intense. Yes so that is the that is the ultimate like one hit kill played best of seven or ten and. It's just mind games like I. I can't they're the same. Essentially right. They look different. Some people have a dive button. Kicked by your jump and you attack and it's all you either directional coming at you or whatever like there's no blocking talking so it's like if you just land on somebody had been but some characters they say they Their ankles are a little different. Oh yeah that'd be remembered dabbling with exciting buying it because of the idea of like fighting aim. Anyone can play all like you said it's about Miami Button. IMPASSE GOTTA BE THE NEXT DREAM THAT I I'll get it on. Steam played here a mercy that it's a little closer together or to be more specific. I'm busy spread a little bit further because this what do you know. My shoes are all thirty with your blood from all the kicking. I've been doing to your face. What is this that sounds like the That's like my My end my in my winning quote defeated me too. My opponent look at my shoes. They're all thirty from the face. God got me spraying cleaner. You only knew kicks Sour Patch. Kids sneakers are ruined. That's Doctor Sholls doc to show Dr Souls Dive Kicks Dive Kicks. I'd rock him to man. Not Doctors approve. All of them remained doctor show so my next track. Pick selection is from a game called breakers which I've actually never seen or played by one of the earlier neo Geo a fighting game titles. Have you played breakers for your searching your memory here positive play. I'm almost positive I play. Breakers that name is clicking like a stack of bricks. I'll tell you in missile. Unfortunately it's not a game about break dancers of fighting in the streets but it is about martial artists fighting industry which is fine too. I guess this is a show's show's theme S. H. composed by Kenici Comey. Oh for the neo. Geo Remember Seven Take the bench into this breakers revenge We believe for the new GEOS CD version possibly proposed by Kenny G.. Cameo this show's esteem. It's it's real short. It's really triumphant most triumphant most. Excellent No I I love that the middle section. Where it's it's the are educated like keyboard or something to reminds me of PUCKER BANZAI mention. It also reminds me the stadium soccer match starting. Yes yes it'd be a lot of a train trade like the train whistles kind of Staccato way. There there have three berry wildly different soccer team on a train watching buck aroo bonds on on a small nineteen nineties. Television practicing how they're going to walk onto the field when they get to the hey to like when I walk out I'm GonNa Walkout like this When they walk? They're going to be like me. But one guy running jump kicker something so just just a nerdy technical information about the music I just I just read it so the later neo Geo Games instead of using the like the sound chip for the FM and like the like the sample based stuff like the Super Nintendo style music it was also able to stream like really low quality. PCM samples one long sample was the entire song. So this game. I used one long sample for the soundtrack but then there was an updated CD quality version for the NEO. Geo CD okay. So this this game this sounds like the the low quality streamed audio. Yes if you find the news levers and it's going to be the same thing but it's going to sound a lot better audience stereo. I'll get up and then also Make sense why. It's so much shorter as well. Yeah it sounds. Like it's being pushed out a gameboy advance basically spent. Let's take shots. At the gameboy advance on the show. I don't know why I love the game boy advance in every way. The Music Soup ploy graphics new so much. Why don't you just leave? Then why don't you just leave with the neo. Jio because I can I have. I have ankle bracelet at me from going because I'm in a relationship with nintendo switch. Actually that's not a lie. Wait wait after death. There's a lot of new nintendo switch though so it's the best of it is true. Essence Dems pretty much been. I asked the West collection that would just drop in physical form just for retaining and all. Because there's so many like retro Geeze dropping thing is a portable arcade in of itself through an entire the season of baseball stars to switch right now and it's the best as baseball game ever made. I like I like video baseball games. I don't like real baseball. There's a lot of sports I don't like but I like video sports same here. Golf Baseball Baseball was bases-loaded Gulf was originally power goal on the terrible graphics. Men Eventually Games like Mario Golf Tennis I came to like both eventually but it started with virtual tennis. Virtual tennis was a blast with the first tennis game at really like got me and my friends like playing that game competitively. Just play for fun Mr for funds as if somehow basketball and football never click in any form got it got into TECMO PLATEK mobile. I hated it when I played because my family played it. Even the John Elway as quarterback there was that Scott's of family family guy they did years ago where like where I came around which I want to say it was like quagmire probably like running. Beat Muhtar Peter with like Bo Jackson. Running yeah I don't know if it was Jackson back then but I can tell you that these springs I had with my brother and I hated it. I hated it so we're throw pass. Ask Not Fair. That's like for people who know sports like that was their code. I know this one sports thing that you don't so I can beat you at Nintendo and I was like double dribble was just sweet spot for three point shots that just kind of ruined that gave me with my brother But yeah like I would say that we say tennis golf. There's no across king surprisingly Lacrosse case. It's true there's across the are there cricket games we we need more reason. Cricket Games mistakes. I'd try that soccer of course on Nintendo world come is what brought me into the soccer fold and then I tried fee for ninety six on the Nintendo windows sixty four. It didn't quite hold the mustard because the needed music and the game is have music played. I quickly put I always like In the UK or Europe. They ended the sensible series sensible soccer. I Love I love that title based released one of those in the three sixty really who game but it was definitely fun and playable. It was actually the name of the developer sensible software which is where the name came from. Okay well I think that's a sensible way to name their software absolu- servant sensational well sensible for now. which an extra well? I'm going to pick a track that I said you know the name but I'm still gonNA look it up and make sure I got it right This is from the game apple. Jacks Inc from King of fighters two thousand two biggest converse to Kula diamond named diamond dust by the sound team and for what I can gather the component most responsible was Masahiko Kahad Tire uh-huh. I drove aggressive. We left my now gonNA pay the price to date. I have seen this before. Go to shop gone to pay McCain Nick. He's GonNa overcharge because he knows that mosaics oh when they told me I needed that oil change. That's good that's good. If you have to talk about some kind of weird love affair between the mechanic and then Every other lyric needs to be like fire burning fiery passion in the parking lot outside. Good so this is the game. Kickoff fighters two thousand two title Diamond Dust. A theme of Kula Diamond Broom the game. I just mentioned earlier so I'm not saying get by the case out the not cornell dives while he go Italian of being the primary contributor for it so it's funny you mentioned frozen. There's an earlier because the reason I picked this track is because Kula diamond is another care today. I saw in motion while at a friend's house while they were doing round robins and I was like. That's that's the character I'm using in. This game was cool diamond. She is basically the cheese frozen before elsa which is okay else's based on the snow queen so she's before all of them but that's irrelevant. The point is diamond awesome. She's one of those typical lab experiment characters at the having a lot of fighting games. And she has the power of controlling manipulating ice or she uses to generate ice skates owner feet to skate around the ring which was why I liked the first place and she wears real cool raver pants better believe it. Yeah doesn't mess around man. She is a frequent flyer. Yeah think so. She's a shopaholic definitely. Has that early. Two thousands of a look to other this music is very like ninety zero. Be which I I'm enjoying very much. I wonder if for some reason I looked at it. Sounded like a mega man. X Four icing. Okay Yeah Yeah and actually at. You're saying that the the NEO GEO pocket one have mega man edge to it. Yeah absolutely is I think. A lot of it's that that sound chip to but indefinite appeal. I like it a lot so I do want to ask. SNELL has on both of them I think will technically Ed did start with a situation but just in case anyone who would you say happen to be your favorite or or preferred SA fighter characters. I can do I if you'd like rob all you think well yeah. I think I need some time. You're trick Yori. Yami has always been my favorite. He's always been kind of the Coz Gang Gang. He's like you know the the Ken. I guess of the King of fighters series and he just always looked so cool. He's got red hair and the pants buckle. That goes between his knees for some bizarre. The reason I think that was like a fashion thing in Japan at the time. But I thought it was like a like a bondage thing. But that's fine. I didn't know who the character was the time so I was very confused but sometimes I was a kid back then so It just kind of gelled with me very well. And and he's got some great moves. I always like playing as him is just really been like pumped up and enhanced as King of fighters series has gone on so he's he's remain main my main and King of fighters since probably ninety five I think we need a viewed. Didn't he have a move. That was sort of on par with That one character from street fighter a Kuma where he does like whatever that movie was where he kind of rushes the guy screen white kills them and yeah remember your slashes away etem he jumps on top of things I was. I would think I was really introduced to the king of fires characters like more so much are playing on cocoon verses Sanca thank you I think Keogh was probably my my main Goto but it's other than that. I think Athena was my favorite. Well I would say my main Goku was super percents. Oh I see I see I see what you did. Actually on the king of Fighters Games that you could power up their super moves not by AH tacking or by blocking but by holding down two buttons and they like the power up like like a dragon ball. Oh night which is really cool and one of the grooves that you could do Capcom essence so so this was this was this. Was this lady. Your faith is. She was my character character in this particular game and I would say across the board too because I pretty much use this character. A Use Blue Mary back in the day yes. She was cool Ecology I just ran with my tradition of pick the fast be woman character and just like make people angry because back in the early days of Arcane fighters when kids were definitely only being kids for some reason people would get really mad when you beat them with the girl care get really upset. That's right so if I'm not good at fighters and I win with the girl care to might double bragging rights suckers deal with Yeah I remember when I first learned that the Ralph and such whoever it was from a car warriors so the They were from another s and k property and I think also had she was from our own game again a game as much as I played it. I will acknowledge it was terrible. People didn't like that Nintendo port wasn't good year. Nothing when I play it was unintended. PORTIA it was. That's all I know about it. I remember hearing. Oh that's right From other game we'll say in San right shoulder Iraq knock aroo okay. Oh that's right yeah knock fast gestures flyer on the screen and stuff like the Hawkin and all that yet. That's world heroes. I used Charlotte now. World years never crossed over with with King of fighters to that. I don't think they did know a very different kind of fighter and I think it was a completely different design team too so I think a world world here. We're going to have a guest show with Ed one minute house like how's that. I thought that was like an alert like storm like a tornado. Warning reminding ED tonight. Oh God All right so we're going to turn this track down and we're going to get into the part of the show that we call the bonus round of a bonus round and also I have to take a break on the bonus round is the part of the show where we play covers and remixes arrangements on our theme and we are in luck. Because almost all of these ECE fighters had arranged albums released alongside of them And not only that but a lot of the music is well beloved by fans and other composers. So there's so much to look at so much to listen to so much to choose from I went into a completely different direction. That we've been listening to for my bonus round and Ed I'm curious about yours. What did you find for us because you were? Yes you started to tell us about it at the beginning of the show you held back because you're really really excited about this. So this is a very very different direction than most bonus round tracks you guys do. I've found this. CD randomly at an import art game shop in Chinatown in New York City. And it said Neo Geo is song collection CD and it just peaked. My interest in are there are pictures of the different like you know. Guy Characters from the new fighters over the front and I was like. Oh this looks cool opaque this up. I don't remember how much it cost but I'll bring home and it had some really interesting stuff on it and basically it is collections of songs. So the voice actors that play the characters in the game like interior bogarde sharp sharp shouts like a bird knuckle in all of his special moves. These are the actors that voice the characters in the game singing and talking to each other and all this cool stuff so you get like more character background from the actual voice actors from the characters burning Nichols I had A. I had an arranged album of initial going back to Europe. Where like the voice actors of the game would sing some of the music from the show and they were they were not great singers but like we're fans of the show it was like? Oh Wow cool. It was more thematic said okay. I'm excited about this. So this is a track called dance de piece and it's originally from from the garden. Setsu the best cd but I got it from the new Gio Guy Song Collection CD and it is a party rap song rap by Party party rat king of fighters fighters including Terry Bogarde my Sharana. We blew Mary amazake. Duck King and Lee Jong fake okay. So duck king is like the the beginning he like. He calls to people in like they respond and he shouts their names and like they shout back with their like they're fighting moves like poses and it's such a cool song. I can't wait for you guys to Terry Barbro knuckles name play Blue Mary. Jane Pain ending ending basically in Japanese. That's kind of what we're talking about here. Not Wait because again before we started talking like we were talking about parents. Just don't understand and I pulled up a bull Smith right here. We go this leading dance to peace king. No the hawk. They probably won't what's good pattern. Move In tact Bruce Die. I can't cut it off the more steps Sapper Apo- puffy that's just uh-huh the third the one. It is the next day. Ah Yeah they come on Own The funny. Oh Aw IT products your daughter Godfather Eh. Victory cry in nineteen eighty walk. Who was yeah? Aw grabber just that is oh my God I ever body last three times. I was laughing so oh hard every time he said. Hey you what everybody Terry Bogart. It was so funny in a a love that now. What if you're having? How long have you had that? I've had I've had this CD since early. Two thousands probably since around the time it came out on believable unbelievable. And I wasn't I you know I thought it was going to be like arrangements of like real neo Geo songs wrongs and that's not what I got like when I started listening to it so I was kind of disappointed in my put it on the show and like probably ten years later I was like oh I remember this. I wonder what's on here here and I started listening and I was like this is gold is absolutely need to put this under show somewhere so again. Well thanks. Thanks for sharing it with us this. This this is the reason we do. The bonus round What play that boat is insane absolutely insane? So there's there's a webpage on the FANDOM. Wiki that I I think we should put in the show notes and it's got the English translations unlike who sings what okay so Yeah people can click on that and they can get the lowdown of what what craziness went on during the strike those English news. I want to hear Terry see something smell bad but his essay burden knuckles. Oh my gosh. Yeah hopefully I'll get translated lyrics on this site all the healthy so good. Yeah Yeah it's got him. It's got him. It's got him in Japanese in English. Well I have a I gotta take the show on a completely completely different direction. Then so this is Kiss me the theme of Blue Mary ranged from fatal fury three arranged composed so spy Yukio Makino credited as mackey. Well you can track a year big Mac Imac knows definitely not that that style. But it's got some really really nice piano really really cool cords I hope you dig it. This is kiss me. That theme of Blue Mary ranged Uh breath the and uh-huh yeah uh-huh Yeah Harper back. That was kissed me theme of Blue. Mary ranged changed from fatal. The're fatal fury three arranged that was composed and arranged by Yuki Fumi Makino credited did as mackey an official lesson K.. Release yes it was. My first thought was like mackey and Pinto which she's a character from twinkle Star sprites which is another game. That's right yeah took us fun. You introduced to that. Yeah it was good. Jane Eyre played that Ed I have not. Oh man look into on the switch too so yeah it's accessible. It is a shoot-em-up mixed with a puzzle. Game makes the versus versus fighter. That's all the right buttons from. Yeah so it's definitely a super colorful and like really bright and cutesy so it's a lot of fun cool I know yeah So that was theme boom. Mary arranged I really like arrange tracks at really go off into a completely different direction and this one went off on like a weird like jazz. This jam for like six minutes. It felt really improvised like it felt like follow the theme of the of the original song but I felt like they just it allowed them. It's a really put their own personalities into it the performance it was really cool. Yeah I think trump solos here in their felt like a traditional jazz like where everyone sort of like looking and each other and then taking their turns and they're going around I like so I think you want similar on this one Kinda did kind so I ended up going with also some blue. Mary jams Both Blue Mary Jam Blue Mary J.. This tragic particular is is Blue Mary. Blues full band rendition. From the Game King of Fighters Ninety seven done by show regulars the consuls. A had they go with it though. Because it just sounded so great. uh-huh Uh Uh and Yeah Matt and Welcome back you're listening to the console's play out to Blue Mary. Blues Balloon from King of fighters and he seven. I want to say I'm not looking at my notes. Merry Christmas from Right Mary Not Christmas Merle and they yeah. It was ninety seven here buddy. Do as Lollipop chainsaw bring does threw me off a little bit but The consoles knocked out of the park with this. This one definitely embodied the soul which they are known for injecting into jams happy to find it and it was really glad to share it with you guys. So the console's inject their groove into everything they do I love. I love their their Bass Player so much there upright bass player so talented. How's it? They're all really super talented in grape production to drum. Kit was fantastic sounding. I just loved that and it just it. All the instruments just have their own on space to play in and they didn't crowd in on each other. It was just great arrangement super. I think a lot of that has to do with it. It's a it's it's it's it's a limited scope you know there's only four or five of them at time on trying to play over each other but you're right though it's you know for the fact they played live and the fact that the their own recordings mornings that it's really well produced usually not always get that level of quality but but the consoles. You're in good hands. Oh Yeah So for more information on the bonus round part of our show go to rhythm and PIXELS DOT com we'll have links to ban camps and sound clouds and BIOS everywhere where you can buy the music and and support these great artists. Thanks for joining us on episode. Twenty Dash Ten of rhythm in pixels are look at s n que fighting games with Ed Wilson from the Digi Embassy. That's being thanks for joining us on our season. Closer Sir of Season Season Twenty Twenty World Twenty World Twenty. Are there any video games a half more than twenty world that I don't think they're already. We may have clips them all we. Are we better than them that Mary that Mario Take that Luigi take. Take that while Luigi and Mario and walk to school anyway. Thanks Ed thank you guys. Oh man this. It's always a little fun to hang out with you guys especially plan awesome tracks like these. I mean I was just grooming the whole night through so such fun. I concur good sir. Why then? We'll get my butt on the darn embassy. Not A frigging slouch about. 'cause I'm I'm waiting for that shoe gaze episode man. Yup It needs to happen. I'm just like I'm sitting here in. Italy China mulling. WHAT DO I? What would be suitcase Gaming Mike? I don't know maybe I'm biting. I'm just putting too much pressure on on finding what or if it's too hard of a theme to come up with. You can think of something else victim. They think of something easy just to like together and hang out. 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S11E18: How you're wired (for relationships)

Dateable Podcast

1:51:46 hr | 5 months ago

S11E18: How you're wired (for relationships)

"The dateable podcast is an insider's look into modern dating at the huffington post calls one of the top ten podcast about love and sex on each episode. We'll talk about anything from sex parties. To sex droughts date fails diaper fetishes. And i moves to first loves. I'm your host. You issue former. Dating coach turned dating sociologists. You also hear. From my co host and producer julie craft check as we explored this crazy dateable world. What's everyone welcome to another episode of dateable. Show all about modern dating where we dig into the whys of people's behavior in the wise of your own behavior and this episode in particular. We really go deep into the whys before we get into a like. Why why are we talking about this. We just want to say thank you all for attending our community livestream last week. It was a great turnout. Awesome engagement and some really discussions about navigating the holidays and loneliness and the feeling of the these weird feeling so we get around the holidays and i think we came to some really good solutions and tactics. Yeah it's a weird year. Everyone can say that. Like holidays are definitely not the same and i think there is a question about you. Know what about the do yours cast like what about. Something is just not going to happen this year. If unless of course you're a committed relationship that you are with them quarantining or whatever is going on in your specific state but we were talking about it and it's definitely a difficult year for people but you know. I think one of the things that has helped me is that nothing is forever like we talked about if you look at pandemic history like there's in the nineteen twenties came out really strong with like the roaring twenties. So i think that's how i get through. It is like maybe there's gonna be some really great years following this recession. Spent temic all the shit that's happening at twenty twenty and we can't forget that we are in control of our lives and our emotions and our feelings so if you are disappointed or upset because you can't spend the holidays with your family or with your friends or a spent a new year's eve with someone special. Those are sort of factors. You can't really control because of the pandemic right now. But there are certain factors. You are in control of for example. I am in control of what i can watch on netflix. And if i am looking forward to a particular show. I will put it in my calendar. I actually just signed up for hbo. Max love each session. Is there at the house of how is so good. There's the flight attendant. I've heard about that one. So haley right. Yeah i heard there's some really great stuff. That's why i sign up for it and my boyfriend and i are so excited to start on some of these shows. We've really just marked in our calendars. At least the soon to look forward to. I think also like. I've had some friends make the initiative to do like virtual secret santa or like a girl holiday party like via zoom. I think you know like yeah. It's not the best. It's not as good as a holiday. I like keep thinking about our holidays little gala. That we ask that. I got oso nicely provided about on facebook about how we've been going for five years and that's clearly happening but you know it is what it is like. It's still you can still spend quality time with people. Even if it's not the way you thought it was gonna be per se my boss at my other work. He has this thing where he and his group of friends get together once a week. Virtually and someone has to bring in something of entertainment like you're in charge of that call so he attended one last week where they had a magician on. He loved the magician so much he brought on brought him on company call and he was fantastic. The stuff that you can do over zoom because now the possibilities are endless with multimedia it was fantastic. He said every week. There's just something unique that you know every once in charge of bring in something. Yeah i know like people that we've definitely seen in our facebook group people down about dating right now to like. If you're in california our essentially back in quarantine. I mean other states could very much follow soon enough to and just in general even you're not in quarantine with like numbers up may not be necessarily although it's a little hard to be like like. Oh yeah i'm gonna meet all these new people what you see. This is such a risk but then on the other side it's like this has been life out for a year. It's going to be a year which is crazy and it's like it's up to us to not let are dating lives suffer either so i think i definitely have found some people. Aren't that receptive to video calls or especially now. Because i've been boston in my parents house. Maybe they don't wanna talk to. Because i'm not close by but i've also found people that are so it's like again. We talked about this at the early pandemic. Like maybe again. It's filter to see people's true intentions. So it's not always a bad thing. It's all how you process things and you know but what we've learned from this episode today is sometimes we're wired to take things in differently and we're so excited about this conversation this with dr abigail love and i actually met dr love through a mutual friend. Who had on this podcast lowering core shak was also a marriage and family therapist and we had her on attachment. Theory is if you all remember that episode correct circular osa queue the bachelorette the no not you again her but i think this really came to light because we did personality types last season with james which was also very popular episode. You you'll love the personality. Dissection i get enough that people i mean i personally love those two. Like what explains our behavior. I think we're always so fascinated in that and it's been super interesting because when we posted that dr lab is actually in our facebook group and i remember her responding and being like all personality types are cool. They don't really tell you all that botch let's talk about schema and i'm like what the fuck a ski then i talked to her. I did the quiz. She gave us a quiz. And i was like omega. This quiz really just explained everything that happened in my last relationship into the quiz. My mind was like literally blown from doing that. And then i messaged you and she's like did scheme as like three years ago. Couples counseling. well you'll hear the whole story that is actually imported to this episode. That you'll hear so. We will tease it there. But there is something very interesting. That comes back around with that. So let's give a definition of scheme as you found a good definition earlier julie so a schema in social science is a mental structure that an individual uses to organize knowledge in guy cognitive processes and behavior. And you all are probably like. What the fuck does that mean. It really means like. I think it's just what we talk about with. Dr love is like how we're predisposition to cousin of attachment theory because of the way we've been brought up a cut because of just our genetics and everything it's explains like how we process information and why we do certain things like there's different scheme as i think. I scored highly in the perfectionist email. Which is there you know surprise. But i never thought of it in terms of my dating life before and i think that's where my mind was blown. I see it in my work life. I'm definitely a perfectionist. Ueda is that it has to deal with it. I never realized it was translating into i relation ship. That was fascinating to the beauty of scheme. As is that they are innate in you to a certain extent and they're hard to change in fact you'll hear in this episode. You shouldn't try to change your scheme us. The whole point is to learn more about your scheme us learn more about yourself and then apply these learnings to your relationships to be able to communicate to your partner how you communicate and how you work is essentially showing opening up a computer showing how it works mechanically on inside right. So it's not just the surface level it just runs in. This is how you press a and it shows a. You're showing your partner. If i press a what are the inner workings of what that a is doing to me. So that's why schemes are so powerful to learn not just for relationships but in the way we relate to everything in the world And i really just love this conversation because of that. It is mind blowing when you understand. The power of scheme is it is and this office says a little longer but honestly what. I was editing. it. I'm like there's nothing we can cut here now just so good and i think that big piece to dr leisurely. Stresses is that you can go to like be like cognitive behavioral therapy to learn how to change your behavior so there is ways that you can't adjust or even just adjusting the way that you think about things like i think i mean i won't give too much away because there's a whole episode appalachia. Perfectionists schema tends to hold your partner to higher standards. That they may not be able to me so sometimes. That's just not realistic. And it's not that you're like you know settling or doing anything less. It's just no one is perfect including yourself you rewire your story. Essentially therefore rewiring. Your behavior. And i like i said my only my only criticism of schema is the word scheme i feel like. There's a negative connotation to it doesn't sound great descends it. Roll off the tongue. I wish they would just call it. How you're wired yet. That's literally what it is. The described it as like if attachment their personality types out of it would be schemers scheme us yes but now called recode who renamed to how. You're wired a kidney trademark by you issue. Nobody wants to kidding terrible. Sorry for anybody out there. But i think the eve of the week busby behavior because in the sounding board this week to we have logan yori who is another crowd favourite from the science of data. Who basically was a behavioral scientists making the tech industry. She actually took her knowledge from that in transferred into dating and relationships her episode that we did with the science of dating is was so popular. She has a. It's coming out in february so we're going to have her back on the podcast that you all here again. But it's how not to die alone about just using behavioral science to navigate dating in. We are going to have her this week as a guest at the dateable after show which is part of the sounding board. So if you're not in the sounding board yet definitely check it out. It's dateable podcast dot com slash sounding board and anyone that's in the friends with benefits or the exclusive relationship. Tears will be invited to this event. You can also join the lower tier the friends here if you don't wanna be going to events or if you're on a different time zone where events just isn't realistic or thursdays. Just don't work for you. There's many options here and whatever works for you. We're kind of starting at that so we can meet you where you are. And we've heard such great things. Like i was talking to one of our members to cut a belted my heart to hear him say this but like i actually love the sounding board even better than the old happy hour is because i feel like i'm like now with like a legit group of friends and like we're going deeper. He's like i find myself way more than i ever did before. And i just feel like we're connecting talking about deeper topics like i really trust these people like it's just super happy so it goes beyond dating. That's what i love. And this is why i can't stand singles events or singles groups because all you end up talking about was dating and it's like the dating woes but when you have a legit group of people who support you dating is one aspect of that then you start expanding into other parts of live. Bat are also interesting and important. So i love those conversations and we have people that are in relationships which is grain whether they were in a relationship long before joining the sandy where we had one person that wrote the sweetest thing about because we had people introduce themselves a little more at he wrote like. I'm so lucky like my heart stops. Every time i see by girlfriend like i'm just so lucky like i pinch myself. I forget his exact words but it was something like that. And i was just like. This is amazing and it's also amazing that you took the step to join this even though you're in a happy relationship because also talked to one of our members spin with us in our host group shelby and she got into a relationship after listening to the podcast and she attributed to the group in all the stuff and she was saying how her boyfriend now listened to the podcast together and they go. Oh my gosh. Hi shelby friend yet. We we've said it before. The big dateable does not mean being single in something that never stops. So yeah. it's it's for everyone and i. I've been so happy with the group especially this event. Coming up logan yuri. I realized why people love hearing about dating behavior is because it makes dating so fun a if you see dating as like a job you're going on job interviews a exhaust you and it drains you but if you look at as one big social experiment that we're all part of a makes us so fun. You're like ooh. What are the patterns. What is the general public doing. And what is our general perception. So it's really fun that way whether you're in a relationship or not makes it all really fun and it's also really fun is would you rather is because tests word of your perception. And there's an element of group. Think because when we have it on. The facebook group people tend to vote in the direction of those earlier hours of Posted there oh seems like everyone's saying this you know they're like Voting for this particular mindset. So the would you rather this week was interesting. The final would you rather was because it was based on mental health and dating specifically dating with depression. The episode last week with tony and just wanna call up before we do. Would you rather with that episode. Like the outreach. We go from. That ensued was incredible. So i think like a lot of people right now are dealing with depression especially the holidays always brings it up the fact that we're like cutting back to where we were at march in some cases like there's a lot going on or maybe you're just have depression even outside a covert might not be a new thing per se but i just want to say like how wonderful it was to hear people like appreciate this topic and also give another kudos to tony because it takes a lot to be that vulnerable and i thought he did such a wonderful job like really just normalizing something. That still has a stigma. Despite all the efforts yes. That's why i don't like the word scheme us sounds like. I think that's what it is that that's what it is so the would you rather is if someone you're seeing has is battling their own mental health challenge. Would you want to find out in their dating profile. Or would you rather find out once you define the relationship. Julia was your thought on that weight. You had it originally giving you know what the final one i. Okay so for the final one i. We also tried to look at like what people are saying. Because i open housing and we're back here so i i was thinking this over in. I think i would say when you define the relationship over profile as someone that has experienced bouts of depression myself. I don't necessarily feel like that's something. I need to share with every last person especially on dvd profiles like like the short. W never beat or talk to like. It just feels too much to me and again. Maybe that's like my own cut of bias coming through with stigmas like in a world where there's no stick was in theory. It shouldn't matter right. But i also feel like it's kind of like just in general under dating profile. People can't like we talked about this to like even humor. I'm gonna like a to something that has nothing to do with mental health or anything like humor humorous hard to show on your dating profile as people don't know you they don't know how to interpret it. If you try to be super quirky just might fall flat so i think with mental hell too because there's such as like there's a range of just how eager managing it like how often this happens. There's a lot of differing and we went into the episode like there's all sorts of types of depression so even just saying depression is a pretty blanket statement as a whole. I just think there's nothing really to gain from it. Like i think it just isn't something that necessarily needs to be there for the pablo click. I think people should just present enough that someone wants to start a condo with them like they don't need to tell their whole life story on on a dating profile. I kind of equate mental health to be to being childhood trauma or your relationship with your family. I feel like it's sacred information. Yeah and it's information that's earned with people who you trust in so to put that on a dating profile. I would just think not. Everybody needs to know. I'm in the same boat but after you define the relationship. Obviously you trust that person. And that's win. This information should really be revealed so we were both in the majority. Eighty percent of people said after they. Etr twenty percent said in their dating profile. But it you called julie in my i would you rather question. It was a little different. It was would you rather learn about it in the first three dates or would you rather learn about it once you define the relationship. So what did you choose with that question. I would say. I three days of also. Because i've been there before like with many and in the last episode i haven't i had an a serious exa mine. My most recent acts dealt with depression himself and he did share that with me at something. He's had since childhood. It was more You know like something he did. That was very important to him so he did. Share it around lengthy three. It wasn't the very first state we met. Because you know like he could have never seen me again. So it's like you don't need to share that. I think at the very start. But it's so hard to put numbers on things like him. And i for instance we just clicked like immediately of id three. It felt pretty far in like it felt like we were on the path to our relationship but other people have gone on three. Tate's with what's your last name right. So i just don't think there's like a hard fast rule on it. I guess i'll say the three dates with the caveat that it should be progressing if it really isn't that i don't think you need to share it at that stage or you can wait a little longer. It's fascinating because the tables turned with this question. That's what i. That's why i changed it. Midway was because it was overwhelmingly ninety. Five percent i three days and five percent once you tr. And people said. I really wanna know early but then when i changed it to in your dating profile i think that was too early for some people they said. No i rather learn. Once you define the relationship i think in the first three days especially during the pandemic i feel like people are more careful with who they go on dates with so these dates may be a little different than what we used to experience. They may not be so casual anymore so it is a good time for a conversation like this pop up also should be natural but i feel like if if the trust is there and you're getting these deep conversations it is a great time to bring it up. I think it also depends on if you're three on zoom dot conversation. You know like well. I don't know. Because i haven't i don't know what it's like to date on zoom during during this time but we always hear people saying like i was on zoom with this person for eight hours and we talked about everything and we went so deep. You know i guess it goes back to the point. I just made. It really depends on the situation. Three very surface level zoom dates or like our episode. That we have with kathy a couple weeks ago is too fast a bad thing. He was like super in his life story with this woman. So at that point three dates probably would have been okay so again. I think it's all super dependent on the situation. But i bet the reason why people felt like. Dr was too late is because it's like i've made a commitment to you at the static. Isn't this information you should have shared with me. And i think i see that on one stage. It's like it always feels like you were like withholding something maybe like. I could see that perspective but then on the other side it's like also just because you d tr doesn't mean that you're getting married or like spend your life with and like a lot of it is just continuing to make an investment and someone and get to know each other more so i don't think it would be i don't i don't think i would feel misled if someone told me after we define the relationship like i think it's something that just like whatever reason they had was. It felt more comfortable at that stage. Yeah yeah exactly. You can't speak for people so they they have to choose the right moment where they feel the trust and the comfort to reveal something like that but at the same time we're also trying to do. Is normalize this topic. It's not an illness and should be brought up when you feel comfortable. But there shouldn't be any sort of like stigma attached to perceived stigma at your You're thinking about that. You're hesitating to bring it up on the flipside of mental health. Like i think for example. My ex who struggle with depression was probably one of the most self-aware people i've ever been in life so i think whether like there's always this stigma but there's always a positive. A lot of creative people like funny people like there's a lot of positive sides to. I'm not trying to like diminish mental health. But like i think just hearing some. There's just one piece of who they are. It's not the whole story. Can i say this. And i have no evidence to support this but i think everyone has mental health challenges in is just on a spectrum. Some people feel it. Yeah with higher intensity but everyone is struggling with some sort of mental help. Yeah i i believe that. I don't know if that sound bound by science in any way. No i just think there's people that are aware of it and there's people aren't aware of it or people that suppress it in. There's people that aren't or you could just get the t shirt that i'm rocking right now and you show us. 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So we've got dr abby lab here. She has practices in both oakland and san francisco. She grew up sort of on the east coast as she's the director of the bay area. Cbt center hi. Abby how are you. Hi i'm good. I'm happy to be here happy. I i remember you saying with personality types that you didn't love her myers briggs. Ed skuas was a much accurate. Way of portraying people so excited to dive into this with you and before we get into a scheme as are so julie brought up this topic of scheme us. I and i was like that sounds so familiar. And so i went back through my notes. And i went through couples counseling with an x of mine where the entire program was around scheme us so we took this scheme as tests in the beginning and we had to talk about how it showed up in our relationship and at the end of this counseling session. It was like two weekends the therapists that led this group. Was you know we reach out to her and said we really would like to continue therapy. Could you recommend someone as she recommended. A lovely woman named abby say like quiz. You said and she was like wait. I founded old either. This is a part against better. This will happen about three years ago. Okay and our relationship was already on the brink of just being done and after this whole like couples counseling a workshop. I remember going to julianne said this. Open up this whole other side of me. Br i want to learn more about relationships. And how i can really show up for my partner. I have to say it was probably a little bit too late for our relationship to realize that but we did schedule a consultation with you abby and i remember this consultation so well because after julian i had this conversation scheme us i went back through my email and i was like bam abby. We had consultation with you was already. I don't know if this is the right relationship and during the consultation. And you know i just have to give a disclaimer. My ex was wonderful. Great guy just kind and just a wonderful person. We were not compatible. We were holding onto a relationship. That was never gonna work out but on that consultation with you. Abby and paul munoz. This i say you you ask both of us. Do you want to get married. Do you see yourself getting married to each other. And his answer was. I'll do whatever you a wants to do. And that right there. Seal the deal for me that we were so not compatible for each other. Because i felt like he just wants to do whatever to appease me i had no idea who he was in this relationship so after we got off the call with you we broke up and i remember sending you an email. The next day saying her face freddie would look today just like i cannot. I cannot believe this story not know the war twenty minutes before this exactly we just. We just ended altogether. 'cause it all sounded too familiar but our email to you was. We've decided to separate. Go our separate ways but we would like to possibly continue one on one coaching with you therapy with you. And you had responded back and said i can. I was suggested just doing one of you. Because it's not it's not fair to both of you be my client. So that's basically where we left about three years ago. Full sard congress literally in that like fifteen minute consultation with you. I found so much clarity. You broke up your relationship effort talking to me as somewhat who has a bystander of this relationship i will again second as ex was a wonderful person. They were terrible and it was one of those things that like as a friend. You can only say so much at your dislike. Are you happy you know of. I think you actually did your job quite right because you probably pinpointed it and made it super clear and gave that clarity you needed. This is the funny thing we say in couples therapy right say. Sometimes ineffective couple's therapist helps a couple be happier and more satisfied in their relationship but sometimes a an effective couple's therapist helps the couple and the relationship amicably and quickly and effectively. Because we you know we have to learn how to be good at real relationships and maintaining and sustaining relationships but we also have to be good at saying goodbye and knowing when something's not working for us right right and ending in a way where we do it and consistently with our values and how he wanted to be in relationships so a couples therapist should never be invested right in keeping together. But i tell you. I would have never been able to guess where i come up with this star in a million years. This is the moment world at a small world. Everything comes full circle. But i remember telling julia about. And i wanted you to take this test because i thought it was so insightful. It told me it gave me so much insight to who i am in a relationship. So let's first start off with what are scheme us even saying i. I want to say. I don't remember the session riot button. I i i would say that it sounds like your partner either has a he had. He either had a subjugate of course right that sounds very subjugation schema subjugation with his number one. So what is that anyone that doesn't know schema at all so so scheme as our core beliefs like beliefs that we have about ourselves and about others in relationship and subjugation. Schema for example. Would it be a belief that you are kind of powerless at relationships or that you have to. Basically you have to repress your own needs in order to maintain the relationship surprising as a subjugation. Schema will have a lot of fear driving their relationship and their fears that if they make their needs a priority they may get abandoned or they may get punished or they may get. There's gonna be some sort of retaliation or punishment or an abandonment of because of having a need and an in china get met in the relationship. So how are they. How is this. Different than myers briggs feels very different. But i'd love for you to break it down of why you think this is more of the ideal way to kind of understand yourself. Yeah well. I want to say the big difference. Between the myers demise briggs is more of a personality a questionnaire which lets you know very general personality traits whereas scheme as actually or beliefs. It's not like a personality that we have is just a belief that we have about ourselves for example somebody could have a dependency schema and actually be quite an independent person writing interesting. It's really it's just what you believe about yourself. It's not really facts about your personality. Who you are. It's about what you believe about yourself. But what's interesting about scheme us and we all development at a very early age so if for example your mom die at a young age you may have an abandonment schema or if he were abused in some way you miss you you may have a mistrust abuse schema so we develop these core beliefs in early childhood and then we learn certain behaviors to do with those beliefs For example if somebody has an abandonment schema they believe that others will abandon them and leave them reject them they could become very needy right and and scared and they may be kind of seeking excessive reassurance. Like do you still love me. Where are you where have you been right or they can do. The very opposite behavior naked abandoned before they get abandoned humbly cold and distant night so the beliefs a we have to understand the belief. Then we have to also understand the behavioral that they do when that belief gets triggered for them in relationships and still the person with a seemed schema can actually manifested in a different way interesting. I definitely have a bit of an abandonment scheme. Not like it wasn't my most prominent but it was one of them and it's interesting. Because i feel like my childhood was definitely not like abusive or bad in any way but my dad would very much like shutdown in fights and i saw that right and i think that's where it stems from so there's definitely like i feel like there could be the extremes but there could also be instances that might not be as extreme that also play into how you perceive relationships right we all developed schemers. So we all have corbu beliefs. None of us have free ferment. And you don't have to the trauma in order to to develop a core belief right right. These are just little attachment wounds right so we don't necessarily need to be in an abusive husband develop these core beliefs actually We we can have scheme as a more maladaptive more adaptive but we're we're always having beliefs about what will happen to us in relationship with others so i think that's really important to note with scheme schemers. It's it's a belief and not reality so you could happen. Abandonment schema. You believe people will abandon you. But that's not actually what people in your life and i think that's why i found scheme so fascinating because you what you believe is what you perceive as your truth when that may not be reality so we talked about abandonment. Schema let's go through all of the other ones. I wanna speak to what you said right now before moving forward. Which is what's interesting. Is that a belief. Does it could be imaginary. It doesn't mean that it's happening but if you behave accordingly you can a self fulfilling prophecy making the very thing you fear actually happen and making it real and often schemers occur that way i think about it if somebody has abandonment schema and they're calling off. They're going where are you. Do you still love me. Why didn't you touch me. Where have you been with someone else. Then that person is likely to actually end up getting abandoned. The other person may start making more distance. So it's interesting about schemers. Is they end up. Creating these self fulfilling prophecies that do end up making it real if we don't change our behaviors around those beliefs wild like manifestation right and what's interesting about schemers to actually. There is a way when you look at a schema questionnaire gonna go over the schema but when you look at the schema questionnaire there is a way and you got you want to be very careful when you wanna make sure it's a psychologist. That's doing it but there is a way that we could get information about somebody's personality so for example. If you're getting a schema questionnaire and all of the schema are very very high and it's hard to distinguish the main ones that means it might mean that there may be a personality disorder there some sort of minor or were your larger yeah interest and there and there are certain dynamics between scheme as that could suggest particular her sonali disorders like for example hurson with a narcissistic personality disorder may have a their top. Three schemers are usually entitlement right sort. Tilmant is a core belief. Basically that your needs are more important than others right or that. You're more special than others. Or it's like a sense of deserving right expectation that you know what you want is the right way you will get your way right. That's an entitlement scheme up and Another schema for person with a narcissistic personality is on defectiveness. Shame and defectiveness shame as the belief that something is very deeply fundamentally wrong with you causing a lot of shame that you're broken right or or bad in some way and the third schema in a narcissist the triad for a narcissistic personality. The third one was mistrust abuse so again we would never want to think that somebody that has the scheme as has the personality disorder. But we would. If we look at the questionnaire and every one of their scheme is tied the highest it could be and their top three. Are those three. We may start wondering right. We may start wondering if it possibly could be a personality disorder because often you know some of her schemes are high. Some of them are medium. Some of them are lows of those. You don't have any and in the ten scheme but if all of them are high than our certain triangles that can lead to certain personality structures like a borderline personality structure would be Abandonment right so we have abandonment emotional deprivation and mistrust abuse so abandonment is the the the feeling the belief that others will abandon you. Emotional deprivation is a core belief that you will not get your needs. Met in relationships and mistress abuse is a feeling that you cannot trust others in relationships. That people will harm you damned you. They're not trustworthy. They may lie or deceive or betray you in some way got it. What about I think the other ones perfectionism. I definitely got that one curious to hear more of that. And then I think you said the other all the rest but social alienation. Did you mention that one. Two or not yet. So there's ten ten of them so we talked about entitlement abandonment mistrust defectiveness emotional deprivation self sacrifice in subjugate. So let's go to perfectionism. What is that. Yes so i will say that perfectionism right now is the most common scheme i see. is the most common scheme of both among men and women so it makes sense that perfectionism scheme our an unrelenting standard schema. It's when we put really high standards and expectations on ourselves and others Most of the time. It's both on ourselves and others. But there's some people that act it's actually more on themself than others so we're always assessing we don't take a scheme of questionnaire tool literally right. We're always asking questions. And assessing and asking if it resonates with the person but the most common scheme of that i see is perfectionism is people putting really high standards on themselves. You know And putting like putting such high expectations that are not right. The reason it's called unrelenting standards. It's because they are very hard to meet. We cannot meet these standards their unrelenting and there's a lot of criticism of the perfectionism schema the feeling that shows up the most for people with the perfectionism. Schema is this feeling of disappointment or not enough nece not out a bit better at this feeling of disappointment or wanting more. Let's hold that thought for a second. I'll get right back to it now. The holidays are the perfect time to get a little bit more. Glam d- up even if you're attending more virtual parties than past years thrive cosmetics. Yes cosmetics instead. Cosmetics is one of our favorite beauty brands that we discovered this year. Their products are high performance award winning and are both vegan and cruelty free the clinically proven formulas highlight your best features improve your skin over time our goto and julie. I know you love this. One is the award. Winning mascara called liquid lash extensions. 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People are a mind reader because perfectionism tendencies. So i can see how that would definitely shows up why you think so. Many people have the schema. I think our society is becoming more and more perfectionists that. We're expecting to live the american dream to have money to have this That right to be successful and so. It's an unrelenting standard. You think we could afford to go to college. Then buy a home and then of a family and then have this right like. That's i mean. People aren't even to pay their debts for school. How you know the standards that are put on us are very very unreachable so we do and and look at look at the messages that we get about what women should look like ryan user on who who looks like a who looks like angelina jolie right. Yeah and it's like dating like having like it's like having the perfect relationship having the perfect career like all the stuff. It's just so much to handle at once having it all absolutely it's a having an all mentality that's exactly what it is and we can't. It's not realistic to have it. All and i speak to we say julie because what's interesting about. It is that it can show up in different ways like a can show feeling like oh. My partner is not good enough. Or it's not enough with his partner wanting more feeling sense of dissatisfaction. Warren could show up like is our relationship dissatisfied dwellers have a better mortgage show up kind of like the people that have difficulty committing right. And it's like like a kind of fomo remaining one person because next person could be better. The next person could be better. And you can't really commit to. Anyone spook it again. It could manifest in many different ways and then when you think about the relationship to other scheme as it changes the whole dynamic an interesting dynamic is when a person has both perfectionism schema and in abandonment scheme up It could look a little bit like you kind of oscillate between all my god is my partner gonna leave me. I need that and then kind of moving towards them and then being like. Is this the right relationship. I don't know if the spark is good enough and then moving away from right and they'd be like are they leaving me to tonight. So that's what's interesting. It's like it could show up as different attachment styles person with an anxious ambivalent attachment style or an anxious avoid attachment style. Right should have different seema's or the same scheme with different attachment styles suits very interesting. You always wanna think about the schema questionnaire in relation to other scheme as because they all play along together inch so what after perfectionism. What's the second most common one that you see Perfectionism is the most common one subjugation. As a is a common one. I would say more for women than for men but subjugation if we think about it relationships are a lot about negotiating and getting your needs met and so this feeling kind of powerless or feeling subjugated and that's a common one in relationships would save. That one is more common for women than for men but in general. That's a common one. The that i see the most in women Is self sacrifice the self sacrifice schema is the one that is most Common in women and the ones that are most common in men are usually entitlement or defectiveness. And so it's interesting to think about the standards that society puts on us with the message that we're getting from society around gender and gender norms in these kinds of ideas and how they impact our core beliefs about ourselves interesting. I find that those two really conflicting us well entitlement end effectiveness. It's like you're you feel. You are entitled to certain things but at the same time. You also feel like you're defective. So you're not deserving of certain things will. what's interesting is that we always want to think in with scheme as in relation to one another so it could be that person with an entitlement scheme doesn't have defectiveness. Shame like for example. It's more common for somebody with entitlement to have a perfectionism scheming hands of the person. Entitlement and perfectionism looks rather different than the person that has entitlement defectiveness. Shame but what's interesting about it. Is it the person that has defectiveness. Shame it actually has an entitlement scheme as an overcompensation for it if you feeling a lot of shame right and you're feeling like you're so bad. Need that even more to deserve to get what you want to prove that you're not that so it's very interesting about it. Actually is at narcissism which is a disorder of grandiosity entitlement is actually ashamed based disorder the number one feeling that drives the whole. Thing's actually shame and it's a very complex issue if we think about it. That way throwback to like dateable. But i've ever had one. We had someone basically come and talk about this like on again off again. I'm not gonna make you i- girlfriend. I'm going to hook up with other people in front of you narcissists that she was dating and i remember our co host at the time michael for anyone. That's been with us for a longtime. He had his masters in clinical psychology. And i remember him saying that he had it was shame. Like that's where it was coming from. And that was something that she had never thought about because he had the super confident persona. And the last thing you would think about shame so it's funny that like all these you know the fuck boys out there by there might be something deeper. Going on is what i'm gathering from us. Well but you know what's very interesting about it. Is we want to be very careful because the shame days the what's very interesting about them. The person that feels a lot of shame again in a narcissistic structure. They've narcissistic character. They tend to not feel a lot of guilt so the shame. Actually a shame is more about me. It is a very actually. It's a very self absorbed feeling like for example. It's me and you get into a fight. And i say whatever. You're a jerk right. If i was to feel guilt. I'd be thinking about it later and going. Oh my goodness. I said that and julie's really hurt. And she looked sad. I feel really guilty. Why did i do. That may be should apologize. She might be crying right now. Maybe i ruined her day. Shame does not sound like that shave. Sounds like why did i say that to julie. i'm so bad. I shimmy better. I messed up. i'm so awful. I never deserve anyone. But it's really. It's very interesting to think about. Because it's very me me me me. Feel guilt will actually Guilt actually aids for the person to change their behavior. Who and shame doesn't the person feel. Shame is not likely to change their behavior. I was going to ask you where it is guilt. Fall into all this. Like which schema does that kinda manifest in the most. Does it not is such a great question because actually the one that that manifests the most in is in self sacrifice. That's what i was gonna get a self sacrifice is a guilt driven schema right and so it's very interesting because self sacrifices are literally magnets for entitlements schemers and type people with an entitlement seem as our magnets re people were the sacrifice schema because there are the opposite side of the same coin. The person is like it's a schema maintaining relationships what we call it a schema. Maintaining relationship is when you're with somebody who continues to confirm that the core belief is true so five self-sacrifice schema and i feel guilty putting my feelings and my needs before others and i have a partner who has an entitlement schema and they believe that there needs feelings calm before others were perfect fit because we continue to confirm the core belief. The other person interesting so we talked about a bunch how they fit into like dating and relationships. What about. I'm curious about emotional deprivation and also curious about social alienation. I kinda guess that one but would love your take. Yeah yeah so emotional deprivation schema. And i want to say what's really cool about schema. Would i find really cool about it. Is that you know it's kind of like the more that you do. And you see people with a scheme of the more you have a good sense of it and you're able to identify it quickly and be able to make a lot predictions about people like you did for you as ex boyfriend. Yeah exactly exactly. It's like you described to t you. I also want. I wanted to distinguish between subjugation schema. And her self sacrifice chemo. Because those two seem similar Both of them are driven by the idea. That other people's needs are more important than your own but a self sacrifice schematic. Julie pointed out is more driven by feelings of guilt ono. This person is satisfied. Do what i need own. No i'm hurting them. If i you know Get lunch without them or take a long time where a subjugation schema is driven. More by fear i will. They will punish me. If i do what i want warning amid in me. So it's very similar flavor but driven by a different feeling interesting thinks self-sacrifice drives more resentment than subjugation. I would say actually that Both of them like you said you're making a very good point because both of them end up with a lotta feelings on the anger and resentment i think that what what happens is depending on how much awareness the person has i would say in. Maybe the subjugating person feels more resentment lemme explain it a little bit differently. The person with the self sacrifice scheme has a little bit more awareness that their self sacrificing whereas the person who subjugating has a little bit less awareness looking for. If i'm going to a restaurant like the person who subjugating may actually blamed you for subjugating them even if it's their own belief that they may actually feel like you're controlling them or you're making them do something or you manipulated them even because it's difficult for them to say no so i guess it i would say that both End up in a lot of anger and resentment meeting look very differently. Depending on the level of self reflection or awareness at the person has like a good example of this is like. Let's say you're asking me to our my car. And i say i can't lend you the car. And then you circa guilt tripping me about it or or attacking me over it right. It's like if i. It's difficult for me to say no to lend you the car if i'm thinking about it this way. Oh no julie. Julie really needs to get to this job interview. If she doesn't go to job interview she might not get the job. And i don't want her to miss a job and then i give you the car just self sacrifice i may. I may feel a little resentful. But i have a little bit of awareness that i did that. Whereas let's say you can ask me for it. And i don't even notice to say no i just okay here and then later so of realizing like you're driving in. And unlike that she get gas did she do this. I didn't ask for this. Why did i agree to this. It's like the subjugating person is not even so aware that they've just done something they literally kind of feel like they don't they. They're helpless there number one feeling a sense of helplessness or obligate interesting. That's super agent. If two people are in a relationship and both of their dominating ski are subjugation. What happened in that relationship. Are they just like do they. Just not know what their needs are and they just keep subjugating to each other he it depends and often. That's not very common to subjugate. Getting together is not so much because but it depends if they have low awareness it can manifest in many different ways where they feel controlled over like. They may agree to things that they think the other person wants and then at the end realize that neither one wanted to those right so that it could look like that or it could also look like being really indecisive with what where you like indecision right so it could manifest in many different ways could manifest like assuming that the somebody wanted something. It could manifest like a being indecisive or if they can kinda slow it down and have more awareness. It could actually to really listening more and taking your time not to subjugate yourself or the other person's but any any seem as where you have more awareness. They're more workable right. Wait so you said it's unlikely but those two get together is that because they're both not really like no one's pushing it forward like what is the reason why those two wouldn't get together. I think that's a very interesting question. i don't know the reason but it's not something i see commonly and i think it's because often people who subjugate are looking for somebody. They're just more kind of magnetized as somebody. Who's a little bit more of a leader. You know because they tend to kind of go along so often you see those people who are perfectionist revenue entitlements seem might just a different schema of because or even an abandoned emma schema but actually subjugation subjugation. Abandonment look like the typical pursuer distance or dynamic. Like i feel. Like i'm like unraveling so much about my last one for you to diagnose but this is a whole together making too much sense right now because the person must feeling abandoned likud subjugated is like. You're taking over my life hung on being Overtaken i'm losing myself right right. I mean the the thing with scheme is that they're so tied to each other that more of a perfectionist. You are the more of a subjugate or your partner could be that like. That's what i found in my last relationship. That's that's the beauty of it right. Beauty is how they interact not only with the other person but also with your own scheme as brass somebody. I mean a. Get your your question. Julia emotional deprivation see monica. Show you how this could look completely different. Even in your own scheme right. It depends on just like you said the interaction between the other person and within your schema and it could look radically different right sweaters ton of them but you could have like so many different dynamics between two peoples very interesting so an emotional deprivation seema is the core beliefs that your needs won't get met and your relationships and it's your need for. It could be your need for support your need for validation. You'll need for care. Be your basic needs. Your needs to eat your neat right. An emotional deprivation scheme feels like usually when people have this. There's an urgency to it like it's like the deprivation is very almost feels to me every person of hundred than emotional deprivation scheme. It's me and i get an image of a crying baby who just cried and cried and cried and nobody attended to in the which cry louder and louder or stop crying. They do all of these things to try to get their needs. Met and the level of desperation at calms. When you don't feel like your needs for survival are met because it does. It's it's a very intense schema and it's very urgent and it could oscillate so the person wasn't emotional deprivation scheme And they believe that others will not meet their needs often. The most comedy oscillate between different ways of being the most common thing. I i've seen my comment. Dynamic is that they start out with not saying there needs. They hold in their knees. They think they're needy. Have too many needs. And so they don't want to share them and they're afraid to show them they hold it in and they hold it in and by the time that they do share it. They're kind of so they're like a balloon that has just popped and then they're having all of these needs in there like an in. It's very overwhelming. And this didn't happen this right and so at that point and so both and kind of creating the same outcome that their needs met right. If you don't share your needs or if you wait until they are a nine out of ten on right like of of necessary a both strategies end up creating a self fulfilling prophecy where you don't feel it. Your needs met in that relationship. Let's hold that thought so we can take a moment our sponsor we like to take a moment to thank our sponsor help. So what is interfering with your happiness right now. What is something. 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They'll refund money no questions asked. That's magic spoon dot com slash dateable and use the code dat ab l. e. for free shipping. All right. let's get back to this episode sue. This feels like a very preemptive schema like you're basically saying my partner will never satisfy my needs before you even enter into a relationship. Yeah i was gonna say. Definitely what i probably if i took this test the quiz like a couple of years ago. I bet i would have scored much higher on that day. Well that means that you've done a lot of work on yourself right. That's exciting now. I feel like i've some scheme as that. I've like gotten like so good with like they don't even impact me that much like they still show up something they disappear. But your behaviors changed. And you have this freedom to act different when the beliefs pull you towards old behaviours that only reinforced the scheme. Oh tra said then. It's it's funny how there's other schema feel of of grown like others drug thing. It's it's interesting to think about it. But you know. I would say not a all schema. Czar bid preemptive right ling. This one i agree with you. It is has a more preemptive field than others but all of them are pretty preemptive. Because we're already bringing in a map of what we think it's going to how it's going to unfold and the more that we listen to the stories about how it's going to unfold the more that the stories are driving our behaviors. The more likely are scheme will come true and the more were able to notice the story in that it pulls us to behaviors that will only confirm our schema than we could then notice what our values are and replace those schema driven behaviors with values these behaviors and then were less likely to continue confirming kinda in repeating right like a self rip a repetition compulsion into i definitely can see that with all of them the only one i'm still not grasping one hundred percent. I'd love your thoughts on this is social alienation. Is that because you basically assume that you're not like accepted socially socially or does that mean something else. No you're on it. It is social alienation schema. It's a feeling of on belonging that you don't belong in a community. It's like a sense of loneliness and a kind of i'm different from everyone. It has a very different flavor from a defectiveness. Shame schema because it's not like i'm badin more like i don't belong could be. They're bad. why are they bad. why don't right. It's it doesn't have to be that you're bad but it's a big feeling like a sense of emptiness on belongings thing as a lack of community often. It's very common in people who are immigrants ryan view. If you come from a certain culture moved to a different country. That's a very common schema to have interests that. I could see that showing up in dating like there's no one that either likes me or there's one that understands me. Is there any other ways that you see that one showing up. So i think that you're nailing at one of the main ways shows up. Is this feeling. I'm never understood. I'm never truly seen. It's this feeling like is this partner. The person i meant to be is this the right person for me and it's a feeling of sometimes being with your partner and still feeling alone still feeling a sense of not belonging together not connecting together. So there's feelings distance but he could also shot in other ways. It could show up like on. Your family doesn't like me or my family doesn't like you or i don't like your friends or any time that i see couples were there were. There's a lot of stuff around friends and family. It's usually related to social alienation schema especially as you know. There's parents that don't like the partner or like a group or they're not getting along with their partners friends that's most likely a social alienation schema. What about people who really reject traditions. Who feel like. I don't understand monogamy. I don't understand generals or people who feel like they just don't they don't see eye to eye with most people in their life. I have a friend who was just extremely smart. He doesn't brilliant. And i think he feels alienated a lot of times because he cannot hold conversations with anyone right. Well i think the key word that you use feeling alienated requisites social isolation alien nation schema. So if if the feeling that shows up is one of feeling alienated and alone and distance than i. it's most likely a social alienation schema but if it shows up moore's judgment not as necessarily alien nation could be perfectionism are caen. Entitlement right interesting. Like an entitled person could go well. They don't know anything. I'm smarter than them smarter than them. And nobody gets on so special right right and so that has a very different flavor than the person who really feels alone and wants to connect with people on feels like they're like literally like an alien ryan from a different planet. Well if so excited to go into ours. Because i feel like seeing how they leave together as gotta be really interesting select you dissect us but before we get into that. How were these twelve league. Decided like who came up with these should be the twelve skiavo's so i'll tell you it's. It's a funny story Jeffrey young is the first person to really come up with the idea of scheme. As in the sense of core beliefs like we voted had scheme as maps of understanding things. Like how do. I go to the store and get toilet paper. We have a schema for it. Right but Jeffrey it was the first person to talk about the idea of core beliefs in relationships and using attachment style with cognitive behavioral therapy right because scheme has are really schema therapies and integration of attachment and psycho dynamic. Therapy mixed with behaviorisms. So it's a very interesting treatment. But he started with tiny sort of ton core schema. And what's interesting is that then. I hope he doesn't hear this ever my really do. I've never met the man of the fred. he's an active number one fan. I'll say because. I don't think he will. He may have a grid diaz ity scheme blaming his own entitlement grandiosity schema how to lead him to continue and bring more and more and more and more scheme so now i think he's up to like twenty two damn right but in reality the more that the more scheme as he added the more the less Really some of the adage schema that he added or more behaviors than they are schema. Their beliefs like for example emotional inhibition. Which is a wolves back their emotions. There's also a vulnerability to harm. I think vulnerability to harm is a schema. Actually is a core belief. But i don't use it in my work for relationships because it's not an interpersonal scheme. So vulnerability farm yeah. Vulnerability to harm is the fear that you are vulnerable. It's like a hypo dryable disorder right. So it's like a worrying that you might get sick or that your wings and your body's not working well or they need to go to the doctor so vulnerable to heart. Schema is a core belief that you're fragile and that kind of way. God it's there's many these are just the twelve that we've pinpointed are more just the ones that are interpersonal that craft. There's time that us in these times are into personal ones that are in relationships there. Some that are not in relationships but many of the new scheme us are are what i would say are not just because they include a behavior for example. Emotional inhibition is not a core belief. Right i mean there's a core belief in there but apart emotional habituation is when a person represses their emotions right there kind of right leg holding back on their own emotional experts and so basically the dilemma. With using that as a scheme is that it's more of a coping behavior than a corps belief because somebody with an abandonment. Schema can also use emotional inhibition. Ride be emotionally inhibited. Or somebody. with an entitlement schema could be emotionally inhibits somebody with an emotional deprivation. Schema can be emotionally Inhibited so it's still informative. But it's i starts getting. It starts getting out of just core beliefs and starts getting into behaviors. It's interesting to look at but it's not as clean caught if that makes sense. It's not just a belief. I'm like dizzy. our everything everything is interconnected. I also believe that scheme must change over time depending on where you are in in life. Who your partner is. I took this test three years ago. My scheme are very different today. And but what is what is so good about. This is what you're saying is that your believes will ultimately drive your behavior so to change behavior in outcome we got to change our core beliefs. I and that that's powerful no-no as you've got it backwards backwards right and what's weird. That's the beautiful part about it because changing beliefs could what's interesting. Actually is a scheme is a very stable and usually somebody to take the schema questioner three four five ten years later and still have the same schema. So scheme has changed you probably. I don't know. I don't know if you have but it means you probably have gone a lot of work. There or thought about this introspective and thought about it did they. They tend to be pretty stable and pretty rigid. I'm in really the therapy that i do. Because changing beliefs is much harder than changing behaviors. It's just a hundred times harder and the beauty of behavioral therapy. Actually is that you. Don't you believe you could have the belief for example if you're the subject schema that you're going to be a top that you're going to be punished that you're going to be abandoned and you can still make a request and see if those if that actually happens. You could do a different behavior while still believing it so actually what we do. Is we help. People change their behaviors. And we go if you change your behaviors enough and you see that. It gets disconnect firmed. If you don't keep doing the same thing that confirms it you do something different. You pay attention to the outcome that will change your beliefs. I am such a bad student. I have about student no because when we when we did. This couples counseling three years ago. That's exactly what our therapists not try to change each other schema. 's you're trying to change behavior while accepting that your partner has not six. That's exactly a dying. To know how have your schemers change. I want abby to diagnose both of us diagnose with our problem think three years ago a my the one says showed up the most. Were self sacrifice and unrelenting standards. Those showed up his high for me. Wears relenting standards. Perfectionist option is yeah perfectionism and when i took it again. Today i didn't have any high schemers. My moderate was perfectionism and then next was self sacrifice. So i guess it's like still similar but they're just not as high as and they're kind of somewhat flipped and i totally understand. Why so. they haven't changed though. That's to abbey lane is the same. They're just yep head differently. Yes yes yeah. It's like you changed your relationship with them that they disappeared. But you're relate you kinda holding them in a lighter way they're not as real. They're not as true. Probably when they're lower on the scale and the questionnaire the impact or behaviors a little bit less right because the whole goal is of behavioral freedom because the issue is not our beliefs might win arch schema gets triggered. It's a whole experience. Ryan is physiological. There's thoughts there's feelings or sensations. There's memories there's urges right. it's a whole experience right. We're like triggered and our goal is not necessarily to change the automatic thoughts feelings of the sensations or the urges. It's to be able to change our relationship with that so that we're doing different behaviors. Really what ends up making our beliefs stronger and stronger is or behaviors and we help. People really do. Different behaviors mindfully and with intention and with paying attention to the outcome. Often would they find. Is it then. The the belief becomes more valuable. The belief is not a strong wait. So you so that you think you know why they flipped and you think you know why they're lower. What is your hypothesis. I really think that like three years ago. I felt like i sacrificed for relationships. So then to overcompensate i would have perfectionism schema thinking that i needed to up my standards about the people i was dating. 'cause was sacrificing so much like that was lying rat was a narrative i was telling myself but at least i know i have high standards for other people but if they don't fulfill the standards the unwritten standards i have for them. I have no right to present them. At least i have this understanding now. My second step from that. It's the self sacrifice is that. I've come down from being a perfectionist and thinking that i need to almost sacrifice a little bit more in relationships. I think you're hypothesis is right on. I would have said exactly that. I think you know what's interesting. I'm gonna say something strange. I don't know how it's gonna play out a history of working with a lot of couples and men and women and scheme ause. I've seen a self sacrifice. Schema is the most common for women. And i feel like it's a little bit right now in our collective unconscious or in that zeitgeist Like since trump got elected. I really notice a lot of women. It like almost like the metoo movement Really impacted a self sacrifice schemic. Suddenly women were like wait. A minute like no means no right to say no i only i love it. Yeah it's interesting. Because i like what you described bear and kind of the path that you took. I've i've seen a lot of my clients in other women than i know kind of going through this tough and it's it's been around you know there's a way that our environment is impacting. Cutting i would say like collective ski. I like our collective skiing are being impacted. I think of anything that we might have swung too far over. I think like what you were was saying is like in relationships. You kinda need some some self sacrificing. You can't be so much self sacrificing that you're losing yourself clearly that's when it really becomes the schema but i think we we're in a world in dating where people don't want to self sacrifice at all therefore like never goes anywhere. Yeah it's entitlement and perfectionist. You know it's i think what you're a very interesting discussion. I i completely agree with you and you know what i think is interesting. I think that when i work with clients on any schema or on any new behavior will it's interesting about it. Is that often what happens. Is we go from one extreme to the other. Look whatever behavior were doing. if we're at zero and we started doing a different behavior we go to like a ninety or for we'd been doing something at a ninety so going to the opposite direction to zero. And we kind of do that for a while until we get kind of in the middle of a fifty like it's your emotional deprivation scheme and they haven't been on making requests for sharing your needs and then we talk about it and they noticing it more and more before they get to an even outplays they get to an extreme place. Yeah i could see that. And you know i think the other side of that should be people with an entitlement schema gordon. Extreme place right is the opposite of that would be empathy and perspective taking and consideration right especially empathy. But i i agree with you that when you have been self sacrificing for a while or if you're noticing as a whole that that that you're doing that as as a collective then yeah. I think that there is a lot of truth to the fact that we are heading out to another extreme and it becomes it turns into a power struggle rather than realizing that actually there is a way to have win win scenarios. Not neither person needs to subjugate by both people need to compromise. You can't have entitlement and sacrificed book. People need to be willing to compromise and that means neither person their ideal situation if there is an entitlement. The prison falls into an intolerable situation. And that's that's the big difference right. It's like the perfectionism is expecting. I get my ideal all the time right. You know what you cannot be released into another person and have your ideal all the time. It's just not life or your partner's going to be zombie right so we have to be able to tell the difference between what is self sacrificing and what is compromising and what is not getting my way exactly as i want. Make getting my ideal but noticing. Well i actually got good enough. I got close enough to my ideal. And not in an intolerable situation and i also share that my partner is not in an intolerable situation. I'm not willing to get my ideal situation if it means that my partner is going to be an intolerable situation So i mean before we get to. Julius wanted to diagnose her to this idea of this journey and how your ski must show up. So does it look like this where you still have these dominating scheme us no matter where you are in your journey is just that some are more intense than others and then ca they kind of go back and forth or is it. If let's say you have one schema that dims does another one. Come to light. No no not necessarily you know the thing is is that it do. It all depends on how it manifests for example somebody could have a very very high self sacrifice schema and yet if they're aware of it they could do the behaviors that Where it does not impact their relationship with so what matters is not necessarily whether are schemers are high or dim. What matters is how much they impact our actions. God example the number one thing. I tell people with the self sacrifice schema as i say learn to say the word never say no and never say yes definitely never say yes always say let me think about it just startling. Let me think about and buy yourself time because the cell sacrificer is always like yes. The title irs is like nope you how both people more so this self sacrifice or say. Let me think about it. And then you do little exercises to help them really connect with what they're actually needing is austin winning self-sacrifice for a long time when you when you could work on the behaviors. It gets really hard to still be able to identify what you're actually needing you've sacrifice rhys alarm. You've lost the the kind of Barometer of what. You're needing so you kind of help them do the behaviors that by them the time because when they're no longer afraid just say no or when they could do that behavior they more in touch with what they're actually needing It's it's like summer. Some are dimmed or ready. Look somebody could have a dimmed which impacts their relationship hugely and some have a very high schema which impacts the relationships very lightly. We're what really matters. Is how aware view of this voice. Right there's a narrator in your head and there's these stories and it's selling you the stories not set this narrator is not selling you these stories out of nowhere. it's not created a vacuum. These things actually happened to you right. You got certain messages that if you're if you don't put other people's needs before your own you're selfish or you or you're not good right Or if you trust people betray you and they'll use you so the fact that you've learned. The schemers was adaptive at some point. Now the behaviors you learned and what to do when those get triggers were also adopted in early childhood environment like a perfect example of this is the person with emotional deprivation schema may become really hysterical when they have a need. They may just go and i'm falling apart. I'm hysterical employing need you to help me right. And this may actually push other people away and not get their needs met but it must have been that at some point in their life may be for example. Their mom was depressed and if they fell or they had an issue that needs it wasn't attended to if it was like a ten out of ten it was attended to so they learned. They learned that. I have to be a really bad at ten at a time to be attended to so it's like we learn certain behaviors and may have those behaviors of adaptive in our origin family. So fascinating so. It's it's becoming aware of your scheme us and then how to manage it away right. It's like there's there's a voice and it it in that voice as soon as you get triggered everything that voice says to you pushes you to do an older behavior and every feeling not shows up. If you don't want to have the feeling it will push him to do an behavior if you're willing to notice where that feeling is in your body to love that you know to kind of treat it like a crying baby. Each schema is a crying baby. It we go. All here's gil makes sense. I feel guilty and it feels really bad and now my mind is gone. You're not gonna feel guilty if you just agree to give them your car just giving your car. You're a bad person. You're selfish right in. Just go and make sense that. I feel this feeling in my stomach and i feel this tightness in my throat. And there's this ruled feeling an experience of this. Y'all and and and and fear not being good enough and then the more that you willing to go i could have those and so can it makes sense. I feel this way. Where's this in my body and even take your hand and put it exactly unwary feeless feeling the most intensely new rub it. It's just like a crying baby. Nagoya here you when you're able to relate to a differently and you're not trying to push that experience away then you have all of these options. Do i wanna stay. Maybe maybe i want to say yes. But i wanna see us tomorrow or maybe i want to or maybe i want to say i'll do. I'll say yes if you do this. All of these options. Open up these behavioral actions when we're able to stay with the experience and when so i help people see with the experience but we also identify what are your values because our values are a compass our values tell us about what we want to be about so five values around being compassionate being assertive being fair. It a clear that i am about the the stories and where they pull me versus the values the more able to stay with this uncomfortable. Feeling the moral. Be able to choose the behaviors that move towards values rather than choose the behavior that might give me an immediate relief but lead to long term pain right because it's almost like an addiction. Like if you if you feel guilty and you say yes you feel less guilty in a moment but in the long run you end up feeling resentful at so fascinating i mean i think like for me because this is the first time i ever did the scheme as like you. A you had experience in the past with it and i can't believe i still can't believe that story is just ridiculous but i do remember you like telling me that. Take the quiz. an. I can't remember if i did it or not. It's a pretty long quiz so you might ask. Might not have. But i know you did. Why did it this time after you saw the class and i think what was really interesting for me is i know i'm a perfectionist in like work and in other i just didn't realize like it showed up in relationships but in all make sense i mean we talked about earlier and i think all that fits me to the t- that i have very high expectations for people in my life. You know like sometimes. I would expect a lot from people and i would. Also i have been my second one. So of my high at high perfectionism. Moderate entitlement in the moderate abandonment. And then the rest of mind were low. Dependence was the next one. And i think what you were saying earlier abbey like i definitely have that experience with abandonment. I've it's something that i became very aware of in therapy to and have to change the stories in my head about that but i do see how it plays into perfectionism as well although sometimes like i'll pull away 'cause i don't wanna get hurt i or you know they'll be like a wholesome into this high standard and then they can't meet it because i'll be afraid to be abandoned so i definitely see the interconnected. I think though the part that really stood out to me. I literally read by description and like a light bulb went off and i was like. Oh my god this explains i last like serious relationship was basically what i got was. You tend to be attracted to partners who have difficulty meeting your standards including those who have a failure schema dependent schema or defectiveness schema. And then you tend to seek out partners who are willing to your needs including those with a self sacrifice schema subjugation schema or emotional deprivation schema dependent schema or abandonment or effectiveness. Which i think like. I haven't done this quiz for my acts but i think a lot of the ones that i just mentioned. Summarize i think the he would score high on those so it was very interesting to me. Why perfectionism a track some of these more. You know like. I think you said it well about just subjugation. For example like you're looking for maybe more of like a dominant person or someone kinda take the lead any other thoughts you have. I'll let you a sesame. Those are just my two cents. Yeah i think that looking at the way. Those two relate the there could be a finding partners that are alike I guess that are not up to your standards right. It's kind of just easier to find that partner that doesn't meet the standard. What kind of look a failure schema. But but what's what's interesting about. It is that there's like a flavor of ambivalence right because when you're fearing being abandoned in the feeling is kind of like ono rate like this person is leaving me and my not good enough. What's wrong with me and the feeling of perfectionism is like. Is this the right person for me. I do not right there. There's criticism right like what's interesting is. That criticism can function as a way to make us feel safer about abandonment right. Like let's say somebody's leaving me and i go. I love this person. No don't leave me. But then if i start going well they're kinda messy not so smart and they're kind of boring and they're kind of this right the more that i criticize them. The the more kind of alleviates. The fear of abandonment right. Because then that person that great anyways maybe maybe they're doing me a favor right and it's it's kind of like being on the fence kind of feeling or ambivalence with wondering is it that i'm afraid of this person leaving me or is it that i want to be with them or do i not want to be with them or am i for it of them. Leaving interesting how chicken this is like the head. Spit of all the different. Like it's really. I'm really conflicted about julie's perfectionism. This scheme is very high for her. She's attracted to partners or tend to be attracted to partners who have difficulty meeting her standards including those with the failure dependence or defectiveness schema. Why is that so first of all people with perfectionists scheme us are definitely going to be attracted to anybody who will never live up to their standards because they're perfectionist but why is it like almost over the other part of the spectrum basically why would she be attracted to those with failure scheme or dependence or defective. Feels like a total like one eighty like. It doesn't yeah. He'll just like yeah. It doesn't feel like you're setting yourself up for semi success. Well what's interesting about. It is that we tend to actually be pulled towards those opposites right because again they confirm our belief so the person who feels like a failure when they find a person with a perfectionism skiba. They know that their failure and when the person with the perfectionism screamer right finds the person to failures. He meant they know that the purses not good enough interesting. What's interesting about seema's is that scheme schemers our beliefs. That are really painful for us. They torture us that they also make us feel safe right. They make us feel safe in the world because if my beliefs a confirmed and it's like if i believe to be abandoned on one level that's really devastating and pain forbidden another level when that person abandoned me. I feel this like the world is known. Worst predictable. I knew that a horse you abandoned me. I knew you were could have banned right. It's it's like a conflict between not wanting that that pain from our scheme us but the safety that gives us one relationships are predictable and can reliably rosenstein. Oh ended up the way we expect him to. It's very comforting very safe. Even if it's very painful sometimes we prefer that so. Okay i'll i'll use myself as an example here. Let's i'm going to be a perfectionist. That's part of my dna like you said you can't change your scheme. As how do. I work out of this. That i'm not either attracting people that have this failure tendencies or like all the tendencies that basically would be the opposite of the perfectionist Disease that's not working for them. Either right it's not a harare. Well i wanna say that the beautiful part about us. Finding we're we're kind of Pulled towards our polar opposite in some way right in some way Be bad but in other ways it could actually be really helpful like it could lead to emotionally restorative experience. So it's not about what scheme as the other person has necessarily. It's more about how willing they are to do. The work on them so the person of two people were willing to see their schemers and who are willing to do the work on them and who are willing not just to start identifying and recognizing their own beliefs there triggers and their old coping behaviors the to also notice their partners core beliefs and their triggers and their pain when both people are committed to that process. That's what really matters because the person with a self sacrifice schema for example has a lot to teach the person with an entitlement on and the person with entitlements scheme has a lot to teach the person with a self sacrifice schema if they could be able to call each other out and do the different behaviors. They could both together meet towards the middle. They could both move towards the middle together interesting. So it's not that you're gonna change like that just might be the people that are like i'm attracted to when are drawn to me might have those underlying schema schemers and i think there's something about just the way some of them sound. That sounds more negative than others. But at least when i'm lying from you is that it's not that way that there's positive in negatives and all of them in its about kind of getting to that. Fifty percent opposed to being more on the extremes of them. Is that correct I think that exactly everything is good in moderation. But anything to look. It's great to be sacrificing and considerate of other. If you do that at the cost of yourself it's not good and entitlement is good to feel like your needs matter but when you feel at your needs matter more and come at the cost of other people feeling harmed then. That's not good anything in moderation. It could be good but anything of the more extreme it as of the more rigid as the more harmful in his but for example like in yet use some tips for example of what people with perfectionism chengdu. Yes like since number one. Probably some other people listed they can identify so one thing that's really helpful for perfectionism to share appreciation and gratitude. So that doesn't mean to actually share it with your partner. I mean it's good to share it with your partner but to connect with it yourself to really be like every day look at what. How did this person contribute to this light to my life. What were the moments were. They did satisfy me. What did that feel like you know. I love that does like i think also just like to speak to my like. I don't want to pay my exit a bad way. He obviously had many great qualities. As well and i think they keep taking those time to be considerate of those in appreciative of those is really important with anyone is going to have flaws in a relationship so i'm glad that you said that. Well also the thing with perfectionists is that they focus on the floor. Right on the lows in the you forget. You're in a relationship with a person for like the. Yeah it's like easy to complain about things but you're not like you have to really take time to appreciate the person as well I want to make sure that i'm also. I'm not saying that means you accept bad behavior right so finding gratitude and it doesn't mean somebody's doing bad things to you and you go. Oh okay. I don't want to be perfectionist Let me let go. That's not one that needs. Because i really want to point out when we were talking about the idea of perfectionism being a bit of a of a overcompensation for self sacrifice right. Is that if you start telling yourself in on being perfectionist a perfectionist you might start self-sacrificing or leading behaviors go and and that's not the goal so the other piece around what perfectionist can do is really identify in general. What are your values in relationships for example. So there's two pieces there's identifying your values and your partner and there's identifying your ideal situation versus intolerable situation i'm gonna talk first about values and then i'll get to the next one yeah But you wanna be thinking about. What are your values in relationships in yourself and your partner and you know one one thing that people were the perfectionism schema can do. That could help them notice. This is like you can draw a sheet or you put values. let's see right values and right importance from zero to ten and then re right knee and then rewrite my partner right about ted values. But i'll do three to keep it simple. So my value is gratitude assertiveness and Collaboration right those my values and let's say Affection and then the next irate importance from zepa and this one's important at a ton this was important nine distance appointment at nine. The next thing. Is i then measure myself either for the day or for the week from zero to hundred percent. How close am i to being. Let's say collaborative was i. Eighty percent collaborative. Was i seventy percent collaborator. But forty percent collaborative so you rate yourself and then you rate your partner. Today was my partner. You can either do it every day or every week this week. My partner was seventy percent collaborative or eighty percent collaborative right. And then you go to the next one assertive. How assertive was i was. I eighty percent twenty percent and nobody's one hundred percent ninety percent and then you rate your partner and now as a perfectionist. The i do this exercise with each ski might tell them to focus on different things as a perfectionist. What you want to focus on first you want to focus on the importance rating. If you notice that you write ten values down in each one of them is a ten out of ten of importance you realize that. You're having some unrelenting standard right. Yeah like if you have things like humor. Maybe humor is like an eight and honesty is like ten right or maybe humor is like a nine point. Five and honesty is a ton. But if you've got ton of values the everything is a ten out of ten of importance you want to say haw. I'm not able to distinguish that. There are things that are higher or lower prices. Things i could let go on. And there's things that are non-negotiable so for perfectionist after really clarify what is non-negotiable values and right and and levels that become clued. Done deal right versus. What is a situation. That's not my ideal but it's good enough like i'm not satisfied at one hundred percent so the next thing you wanna look at is the ratings of your partner right so then he want to look at him. I being as consistent with my values as my partner like is my partner immigrating reading my partner is like seventy and a set with them. And i'm all twenty so you look at your like i've been like lobbying and kind collaborative or honest like twenty thirty forty. My partners like a sixteen. I'm like why are you a sixty million dollar kind of work on yourself. I gay to ups right. And then you track your on where your partner is right. I think that's a really good point too. I think it's a good segue to takeaways. Because i think there is like you know. It's i definitely can identify that with the perfectionist standards. Is that like you. Wanna have it all. And i think ryan learning from all of this whole thing. It's understanding yourself. Clearly by seeing what your scheme as our what those beliefs are and then using that information as power. It's not necessarily something wrong or one is better than the other might sound better than others depending on how you it but it's really not about that. It's about just how we can do it. And i love this idea of like holding yourself to the same standard like am i actually stepping up in the way that i need to be opposed to blaming someone else or if there's another schema that you have it's hard work with this schema to debt to a place with a relationship like i can totally see the situation. If you're always saying yes. I love this idea of taking a pause and saying let me think about things. Like i think there's just so many different ways that you can handle your schema. So yeah i guess. Knowledge is power. I think is probably like my biggest takeaway and also then using that knowledge to then impact your behaviors and being intentional about your actions as is power i am i think just with schemers in general is you have to decipher what you have control of and what you don't have control of. They think we have control of is how you digest your schema into a behavior and that's what it is automatically in your hands but some things are out of your control. How you were brought up this shit. That happened to your in your life. External factors are out of your control. So even if you come out with after you take this very long quiz. Learn so much about yourself but if you come out with like an entitlement schema like julie what you're saying there's no positive or negative on any of these schemers you have to. I stand where that comes from sir asking why you feel the way you do why you believe the way you do and how you can change your behavior based on Your schema i think. That's like the ultimate takeaways knowing what you have control of. I think this whole notion that you said abby that schemers are purely belief and it's really up to us so that's the training. The cognitive therapy is to understand. Like how much does action support. The belief is a story. I'm telling in my head or is it a reality. And then how do. I change my behavior knowing that this is a story. That's gonna keep popping up in my hand. So i'm not you know making myself like putting myself at a disadvantage with relationships because like i don't know about you guys. I don't want to have the standards that no one can meet. Is that basically saying that you'll be alone forever. So it's like. How do i work on accepting people for where they are while also obviously not accepting bad behavior right. And that's what i wanted to say. There's no badge scheme as that. There is bad behavior. There's not better way there. Is there any schema. There's are a neutral but of behavior could be hurtful or harmful or helpful so yeah or effective or ineffective and and and i agree that the most important thing is really really recognizing what is in your control so then the scheme at your belief the thoughts pop into your head or out of your control mind is popping eight million random thoughts that are out of our control and our sensations are out of our control like if a lion jumped on top of us. Right now we would have allotted. Nothing would not be able to measurable and we'd have a lot of feelings and thoughts about it. That are completely out of our control but we are behaviors completely in our control. None of us would like smack. Tiger our behaviors are completely under control and knots. Why working behaviorally. With beliefs is the fastest way to having a an effective relationship. We have the same exact belief and still do something. That will mig relationship better. I also like the other takeaway that you need a tactical way to to deal with all of this is mapping your reality against your beliefs taking kind of record of For i think for example. Julia and i are both perfectionists. And we've had friends tell us why don't you promote your podcast more. Why don't you talk about the accomplishments and we both been like. We're just not there yet like we're starting out and a friend literally had to sit down and show all the stats of our accomplishments through the last years years said. Look at how much you've done. And i think that's when we shifted our perspective outright july. Okay we are just such fucking perfectionist. Forgot to celebrate our own win. I think i think that that speaks to schema specifically towards women like now. I'm talking about gender schema. This idea of being afraid to kind of quit your accomplishments out there or kind of I guess right talk highly of yourself promote yourself as a very gendered based hab women are really dishing. Hold on to feel very ashamed of doing something that we have not been in the workforce for as long. We have not had speaking as much practicing of this. Were very new at it. And so yeah. I think that that's very very much related to a female ski mont right women. Yeah i could totally see that. I think the one other takeaway have is. I definitely now see why you lean more to scheme us. Over myers briggs myers briggs is interesting but it like scratches the surface and it doesn't really give you as much actionable things you can do. I feel like. I have so many things i could go out and do. Now that's going like directly impact. How i date and have relationships. So yeah i do that. I i prefer scheme over attachment styles to prefer a against scheme as more practical and they give you specific advice and you could make real changes. I want to add another thing for perfection as to do after you fill this out is also you wanna look at where your partner is from zero to a hundred and you wanna look at it through several weeks so for example if your partner is like sixty one week in the eighties. Another week in the nineties. Another way and then seventies another week you have to realize. Actually that's a good relationship right you so so if if you like and then you also want to look at whether they're the whether they score high on the ones that you rated the most important so you want to actually start looking and seeing that even if you're feeling dissatisfied look at the paper and ask yourself whose i tell i tell my clients if you and your partner a rating the other person at an eighty or higher your take about that is an ideal relationship that is an ideal relationship. Yeah always going to be at eighty. You're never going to be at one hundred if you're wanting a hundred your i don't know what to tell ya not your therapists because i get you there but eighty s very good eighties fantastic and it's not eighty every single day. You know. sometimes they'll be at a twenty but then he wanted to think about or the twenty at something that's important at a two or the twentieth. Something that's important in a ten. Are they a twenty for week. Or they're twenty. Three months lobbyists abby the perfectionist in me and the asian me just went is an eighty percent. Be my i was looking definitely like hundred but this is where i like i familiar. I feel you're talking totally for us here. Know what this thing is not think about it this way. If it was just you taking the test you could get an a plus when another person and you're taking the tests you gotta right. There's gotta be more leeway that is such a good point though like eighty like there's this Shumur the show with z's on sorry what the hell was that own master of none. Do you remember this. Like when they asked to rate each other and they say like a seven and they decided to break up and then like he goes to his married friend. And that's pretty. Damn i give to like you just fucked up just shows you that. You can't treat your relationship like you do with yelp reviews people only right when they have an extremely great experience or extremely bad experience. Nobody's ever writing a review for restaurant where there were like the meal was pretty service. I came out of it pretty full like that. You never hear that review. But i think that's what sustain a healthy relationship is that things are pretty good. You know like your your needs and your values are being met fascinating fascinating. Thank you so much for enlightening my life for the second time. This is like the most. Like i open bypass relationships. So thank you again for also. It takes a while to wrap your head around diving. i. I'm going to have to sit with this for a little tonight but We'll post all of this information including the link to the quiz in our show notes but abby people want to get in touch with you to find clarity how they find you. You could go to bay area. Cbt center dot com so cbt like cat. Boy tom cognitive behavioral therapy. And then there's also a cbt online dot com and see bt online dot com has. I'm creating a lot new of new resources. And they'll be worksheets. Like non violent communication worksheets and worksheets. That people could fill out right like related related to schema and looking at your triggers in your thoughts and your behaviors or even this worksheet. I just told you about right. Now is all available. I'm cdt online. Dot com to fill out right on your computer or your phone. Awesome will link all of this in the show notes to for everyone in on the website. So they can all find it but definitely recommend taking the quiz to start off in probably listening to this episode a couple times. I feel like there's like so much to take in. It might be one of those ones that you gotta repeat a couple of times to get it all. But i love the idea of using workbooks and really looking at your own stuff in more depth. So thank you for sharing those resources. Don't go to bay area. Cbd center dot com. There's a huge difference clair area. Cpt's centers abby I think you know like. I do want to mention this for our listeners. If you were if your mind was blown by this episode and you loved having abby on as a guest with us. Please give us a rating and apple. Podcasts this deserves a five star rating bathing else. I think this is like what's been so enlightening about my life. My relationship with my partners and how i show up so definitely. Don't forget to do that. And also for all the resources. Just go to dateable podcasts. Dot com for everything. Yeah would it be fun to Do like have random people call in and we diagnosed their scheme as a great follow. We have to do that. That's a great email us the questionnaire we tell you everything about your relationship ovalles. God i love it fabulous. Yeah thank you for having me. I just really enjoyed this shot. And i just really amazed at the fact this. Your story is just amazing. Really thank you so much for joining us to take time. This was so so at les. Thank you for having me. It was fun hour. 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Episode 2:  Side Stories Of Murder From The Newspapers

Talking Murder With My Mother Podcast

57:10 min | 2 years ago

Episode 2: Side Stories Of Murder From The Newspapers

"Hello everyone. And welcome to the second episode of our podcast talking murder with my mother, and here is my mother Maggie. And I am Sonia your host, and here we are again with some stories that we are going to be sharing. I will be sharing with my mother that she has never heard true crime related. I have a few side stories today that I found in the newspaper article only calling them side stories. That's the thing. I got to come up with a name for them. They're like articles that I'm finding as I'm looking for the murders that I'm researching. So I don't know what to call them. But figure something out so mother, how are you today? OPEC? Okay. So today, I one going back to nineteen twenty eight. How many first ones do we have? Or there's few short ones. Yeah. Okay. So strange odd tales on the side pieces that I found in in newspapers. So I one nineteen twenty eight Detroit Michigan. We have where they make cars when they made cars made cars make cars. His name is Joseph Fiari sounds talian is Italian born in Italy moved to the states while emigrated. Yeah. Don't the boat Dono how young super young because when we're talking about the beginning of the story, which is may twenty ninth nineteen twenty eight he's twelve. Okay. So it was born in sixteen. Yeah. And at some point he came over I can't find his travel records coming over. But that's fine. So the headline reads is follows from defiance crescent news may twenty ninth nineteen twenty eight Detroit Michigan a twelve year old boy who interfered in a quarrel between his father and his stepmother shot and killed the father and then fled to the home of his stepmother's. Parents was being questioned by police today. The boy is Joseph yori his father was Sanford. Sorry, Samuel Fiari thirty three native Italy who came to this country. Oh, here you go ten years ago. He was separated from his first wife. Right. So he's twelve. And he shot his dad. So another little article that I find from the same day an hour after he had seen his stepmother beaten severely by his father Joseph yori, twelve last night shot and killed his father Sam fury, and then fled to the home of his stepmother's. Parents for protection, quote, he's twelve I wanted to teach him a lesson. Joseph told William zebra star assistant prosecutor today, quote, I wanted him to stop hurting my mother, I didn't mean to kill him close. Quote, Joseph was in the juvenile detention home today, then another or stepmother stepmother, okay? 'cause he said mother that's why because he considered her his mother. Yeah. That's what I figured too. But it's stepmother, so he's a well to do trucking contractor the father and the kid gets held in juvenile detention. So it says enraged because his father had beaten his stepmother Virginia whose twenty-seven father thirty three. He's in fifth grade he obtained a revolver. So he watches his dad beat his step mom, somehow obtains, a revolver, don't I have no idea where I and followed his father to the street and shot him. So that gun had to be in the house. I need you can't just go. There's a fighting then go and gun in the nobody's twelve you had to go. Find it somewhere. I mean, obviously allows. Quote from the child again, and I would do it again, if he tried to harm my stepmother Joseph declared, according to the police this got the boss at that time you had to grow up really fast. Right. You weren't twelve you were you were hundred of that point miss. This kid's got them both. So these kids all in that era, you either born extremely extremely, reg. Or you extremely extremely poor. Who was a book a very small middle class a little bit like today, and and you have to fight for everything. And I guess he's an immigrant, and he's an immigrant which made it doubly hard, and it's nineteen twenty eight nineteen twenty eight. So it says in another newspaper article young fury who readily admitted the shooting told polices. Father had instructed MRs fury to change a tire on one of their two automobiles through a misunderstanding. The boy said MRs Fiori changed the tire. Tire on the wrong car. So they had to cars. That's because he was I told you he was a s he was a trucking contract trucking. But I mean that that's wealth for that time period. Okay. So she. Yeah. So she she changed a tire on the wrong car when I wouldn't change the wrong dire. Tell you to this day. Oh, no. Which one to change we forgot. So we're throwing it in the disclaimer yet we haven't done it yet. But there's going to be swearing coarse language talking about violet six shit. So if you don't like it you could fuck off now, and if not well, then keep going so it says when fury came home tonight and discovered the mistake he became abusive and struck his wife with a strap the boy said. Young Fiori said he then obtained a pistol and followed his father to the street and shut him down. Mrs fury corroborated the boy story where again, he got put in the attention the juvenile detention. So. This is an hour in between the time. He sees the beating by the way, and he kills his father. There's one hour. That's what it states in this little newspaper article is so maybe time to go buy a gun. I at twelve years old. I can't assume with you know, good logic that he can buy a gun. But I guess maybe he either in the house or he went to a family member's house in got one that needed was there or a friend's father that he knew I mean, I don't know it never tells us anything's falsely in never tells us it just says the boy said he comforted. Well, Joseph said his father took off his belt and beat a stepmother, the boy said he comforted her when his father returned in our later took a loaded revolver from the elder fury's room. There you go. There's another article that gun and met him in front of the home firing one shot fury died instantly. Wow. He's a good shot for twelve year old. I mean shit, you know, I mean. And may mad at this kid, not really I can't say that a mad at him. I mean, he's beating the shit out of the woman for changing the wrong tire on a car with the fucks wrong to you. Visit story more complicated. No, not really it says boy defense debt mother been quote, unquote. She's been awfully good to me the lead sobs in the detention home. So again, same same stuff says the quotes that he says in it says Joseph father recently bought his wife, new car and beat her because she had not changed the tires. He doesn't did earlier in the day. And after the shooting, he ran three miles to the home of his grandmother. But his grandmother being her mother, right. Step by step grandmother. Right. I wanted to teach my dad not to hurt my mother he had heard her before. And I had promised mother that I would protect her even though she isn't my real mother. She has been awfully good to me. So am I which wasn't usually the case. Also in those definitely there's little fitches if they have well, I mean if she didn't have her own children. I mean, she might 'em over assume or taken the the leap of being his mother, and that's that's unusual. Because again, most stepchildren don't exactly like they're step. Yeah. I mean, this lady had to be like a Saint, you know, 'cause he he loved her enough to kill his own father. Right. So I know you guys can't see this again, obviously, I'll put it on the online where we and again, I don't have the social media yet. What you would think I would. But I will. And by the third episode. I promise I will. And I will put all the pictures. So I'm going to show. My mother, I'm trial for killing father Joseph yori, twelve years old is charged with shooting and killing his father Sam ferry operator of a trucking agency in Detroit. When the latter struck MRs fury shown with his stepmother. So there's Joseph with his stepmother Virginia. Oh, what a handsome guy. He he's cute Dorrell. And here he is again with his in another I guess in other photographer from the, you know, the is absolutely handsome. He's adorable. Is step. Mom is nobody notes, you know, got the almost the. What is it the Roman nose? Yeah. But she's not Italian. She's not no. Because her last name, I found out her married. Name is fury. But her real maiden name is Gruzii G R U T Z Gruzii. So I don't know what the hell they're no could that could also be talent. Maybe I don't know. I thought it may be sound morning when some people polish where maybe I'm wrong. I don't know what the hell of people came over on the boat a lot of their their names were written as well. Right yet. You'd never know. And there is a picture of just a little boy in the newspaper as well. And again, this kid is twelve so I did it because he was whipping mother. Yeah. I mean, he's calling his stepmother is mother, you know. So there's gotta be some kind of bond there that goes beyond. He killed his own father again, south -solutely adorable. Any is he's got these kind of hard to tell. But again, black and white. But I mean, wow. Yeah, he's super cute. And and so I tried to figure out what happened in this kid is. I'm sure he went to juvenile detention for at least a short time because how can you not? And then I find, but he he if you went to trial not trial he would've gone to juvenile detention. Oh accident. I guess because I can't find anything that says that he did any time. Really? But then I found this state of Michigan from the bureau of vital statistics. And I find a birth certificate for a John fury. So the kid is Joseph and this again he killed his father in nineteen twenty eight. This is a death certificate for John Furey born in what would have been nineteen nineteen so nine years prior to that it can't be him. No. It's not him. It's his brother who died stillborn. Oh, so I find this and it pops up because it says the father is Sam Fiori, and the mother is Virginia Gruzii so that might have been his half-brother. It would have been his half-brother. Right. So but it says under age years birth. I mean years months days. For the birth. It's crossed out because he was still born and then off to the right over here it system born, and I'll put that up online too. But yes, so poor Virginia she lost baby. Who knows maybe Sam beat it out of her? I don't know is is. I mean, this guy sounds like a fucking asshole. So he's dead. And then I find I'm getting sad because I can't find anything on this kid. And I'm like what happened to this kid? So then I find a marriage license from nineteen thirty four. So again, he killed his father in nineteen nineteen fifteen years later, nineteen twenty eight I'm sorry, killed his father in nineteen twenty eight hundred I say nineteen nineteen o because that's when the brother whatever other so nineteen twenty eight. So now, it's nineteen thirty four. He's nineteen years old. It says and it says Joseph yori, marriage license and MS grace drp loose key droopy, you ski and it says Detroit Michigan. And then it says mother's maiden name is Virginia Gruzii. So I'm like, oh, shits awesome. She's still alive this lady. And I found a while. She just have to be alive. Oh, she's alive. Alright. And she. Lives at I found like a census record where she was still alive at one point. She was living with her brother-in-law. So they're still alive in. It says the parents of of grace who are Louis in Pauline, and I cannot pronounce her mother's maiden name. Let me try bride. Oh my God. Here enjoy that. It's got it's got seventeen thousand letters you. See it right there at the w Josephine or whatever would you? Go ahead. Would you bought key? Okay. At least. That's what it looks like golden spell it. For people listening W O J looks like I e a Chow ski siege. W S K. I I don't know how to pronounce it that sounds polish that does sound polish. Right. That's why I'm thinking the groups. He may be was polish. I don't know. So I found out. So he got married to this. Nice young lady named grace who if I'm not mistaken cheese, actually, even older than him. She's a couple years older than him a while not by much, but she is a little bit. I think she was like a cooler yet. And then and then sadly, I can't find the death certificate or anything for them. So hopefully, I hope it pops up on like because when I do research just everybody knows I kinda put like little blinkers wherever I'm researching. So that if anything new pops up on those people or those family trees, or whatever it tells me, and I actually have an update from the last case from the first episode of rove Ila and Wilson Bertrand, high warden, I. Found found more of their family. Mr. Mr. I'd kill my my wife yet. Mister, I killed all my wives. Yeah. I found found more of his family. So this poor kid Joseph. He finally, you know, gets out of juvie, whatever happens. He gets married Ray. But then I find this and I can't find his death certificate or anything. But I find this also a certificate of death. And it is nineteen forty two. And they got married in nineteen thirty four and it says Renauld R E N A U L, D Renauld, Salvator fury. And it says he was alive for three hours. So their their kid was stillborn Joseph and grace that is who is listed on here. Joseph fury in Greece trip you ski and after that I can find. No. And the writing on here is so poor that I cannot really tell what the actual cause of the it wasn't really stillbirth. He was alive for three hours, technically. But there's something here written in. It's so let chicken scratch that. It's it's really awful. I don't know if you see Mamba so here three lines. It's hard. Right. It's like, oh it says something respiratory yet. But. Oh my goodness. Fucking hard. Right. Yeah. Yes. Was like a looks like looks looks like the handwriting of the doctors, I work. That's it's chicken scratch. It's hieroglyphics. It's like I can't read it. I it does say respiratory that much. I can see. Yeah. I mean, I assume at some kind of breathing issue if he was stillborn so and again at that time. Yeah. Don't congenital congenital up at the top. Now, the hell do you know, it's congenital that while I'm just I'm just saying hydrocephalus. Oh, okay. So if he's hydros phallic Jesus reading more than I could. No, well, kinda again Sidra phallic. I mean, that's our back then to it's ninety when you sometimes have to read some of these doctors recommendations nineteen forty two you kind of have to learn to read some chicken scratch. Well, that unfortunately is the short little story of Joseph fury killed his own father saved a step. Mom, got married. Don't know what happened to him after that. I hope something pops up because I have I have. No, I really have no clue what happened to him. I really hope something pops up so going back to the first episode. We did we did Wilson Bertram high warden who killed his first wife, ADA Anderson. Ada Anderson Roberts and roll villa. Moss? Everett, high warden, so I get this little paying in my Email two days ago. And it says. Richard h Mumford now again, where does the Mumford come into that to that story? So if you remember he had a daughter named grace from the the first wife, I won it was like his youngest daughter, and I couldn't figure out how she became a month. I because I had the marriage certificate for her marrying John Williams, but she already had the last name Mumford. We'll turns out I find this. It comes up. Richard h Mumford was deceased on nights in nineteen ninety four on my birthday June. First nineteen Ninety-four this guy kicked the bucket in brecksville Ohio at the Veterans Administration medical center, he was fifty nine. He was African American. So all right. So far, so good. It's all matching up with the story. And then it says birthdate nineteen thirty five and I'm like, well, wait a second. And then it says father surname Mumford. Mother surnamed high warden. So he is grace high warden the youngest daughter of the killer. He is it's her son. Yeah. It's Mr. killer man's I kill my wife's nephew. He died at fifty nine on my birthday in the hospital, which looks like a VA hospital. What is like a nephew grandson? I'm sorry grandpa. Thank you. You're welcome. Thanks grandson yet for stupid. So. She had a kid with the Mumford guy before she married, John Williams. So I'm like, okay. I found I found another family member. That's good. And then for some weird inexplicable reason it also comes up which and I'm sorry. My Email just decided to kinda take a bit of a crapper. I have to pull it back up. But it gave me this other search to go into a family tree. And when you go into it. It says, Catherine Everett. And Catherine is not spelled with a K and the newspaper article. It was spelled with a k so I'm like, okay. And it says her death eight the February nineteen thirty six. Dayton, Montgomery female twenty one single colored domestic was her ocupation. Her birth date was the fourteenth of June nineteen fourteen in Ohio. It says Berthier estimated nineteen fifteen because they're not really sure nineteen fourteen fifteen and when you scroll across for her parents it says Walter Evert's Evert, and it's spelled wrong. Could've you typo it. It's too Typos. Because somehow this family searched place connected. The names that I was trying to figure out what k-, Catherine. I mean, some people might just write it down as K or rice. But even the mother of the father's names are all jacked up. Walter is not ever it. It's Evert's EV RT S, and the mother is ru Vela not Revilla, and it goes by moss not ever. So they got her maiden name. Right. And I kept searching from us as well. Because I knew that was her maiden name, and it gives me her death certificate, and Catherine is the remember I found Marsha their oldest daughter. This is their second oldest daughter. Now, remember their oldest daughter. I found that she was a widow and she had died peacefully in some old, folks. Home nineteen. Ninety nine is. Well, just like her cousin her that's her nephew same years her nephew. Okay. Which I just found Mr. Mumford, but Richard Mumford, but I look at this and the death certificate for this in it says certificate of death from the state of Ohio, and it's from the year due to do nineteen thirty six, and it's as age twenty one years seven months and twenty five days, so she did not live a long life. She only live till she was twenty one. And it says welter Everett's Morella mosses parents and under the cause of death, it states pulmonary, tuberculosis. That was common in the and I was like fuck that sucks. Again, the times. Yes, she probably would not have died of that. No. And she'll she was like a. What do you call it? I'm sorry. The what's the word? A domestic that's with these call him back, then she was like a housekeeper. She's made. Yeah. Made. Thanks. She yet. And that's kind of you know. You know, because we don't know what happened to her between the the home. What her mom was murdered and her obviously, she got a job. Right. But I don't she didn't live past twenty one almost twenty two which I thought was sad. So those are the updates on the. No. That's the house phone. Sorry, everyone. We thought we turn that off fairly. We did not do that right now. Sorry about that. If let last time it was the cellphone now, it's the house phone and was that anyone we wanna speak to its will call them back and who is. We're doing the podcast. We'll call neck. You can't call them. Now. No, just let me know. We're recording look deals it after it's not important. So those are the updates from the last one they gave me the little little blips that I had some information on in case is that one. So here is the rest of the little mini side stories nothing too crazy nothing too long, but I found them, and I was like you gotta be fucking kidding me with these stories so mostly from nineteen twenty eight. So I find this one which is a mazing and it's called March fifth nineteen twenty eight and the title of the headline is paid mother for his child bride. I swear to God. And it reads as follows when woman changed her mind elderly suitor shot girl and himself. And I'm like, are you fucking kidding me in its Chicago March fifth for several years elderly Steve Cisco, and again, I don't know how to pronounce skiffs Govan headed mired little Stephanie. God, I'm sorry. I'm butchering the shit narrow Zeus nerve Zuerich. Who was thirty six years. His junior. Yeah. Disgusting. Steve waited impatiently for Stephanie to grow up in finish school. By the time. She finished school. He was like in this frigging fifties. The Scott he hoped to make her his wife, Steve even gave Stephanie's mother seven thousand five hundred dollars that he had for her approval of the intended marriage. That's a lot of moolah back in nineteen twenty eight. Yeah. It was a nice Trump a change that was a year ago, meaning nineteen twenty seven that happened. Meanwhile, Stephanie's mother change, change, your mind, change her mind. She changed her changed her mind. She refused to accept the elderly suitor as a son-in-law St. filed suit to recover the money. But the suit was dismissed. Yesterday. Steve went to Stephanie's home where he had been a rumor. He slipped past the mother into Stephanie's room where Stephany child of fourteen lay sleeping three shots were heard. Stephanie died with a bullet through her heart. Then came another shot and Steve wounded by his own hand died two hours later. He should've just shot himself. And just left well enough alone. Seriously. So I wanna see pedophile. Because the only the only problem with all of that is a lot of young girls were being married off. That's my thing. So that's why I'm not like I'm doing it the rooftops. I I'm not saying, it's disgusting. But but thirty six years junior, she was fourteen men which made him in this fifty. He was fifty already. So like if she was eighteen that would have been fifty four years old like. Again, you can do whatever you want when you're eighteen I guess, but like Jesus Lord what gross gross like yet. Your impatiently waiting for her to grow up in finish school. Like fuck. There's no women between the ages of eighteen already may be something wrong with the with the the head. I don't I don't know. What I I don't know. There wasn't really too much. I looked for other articles to kind of see what the hell's probably blip while he's dead. She's dead. I don't really care what happened to her mother mother took seven thousand five hundred dollars even entertained, the idea at her daughter's age of thirteen he entertained, the idea of having the money, and then well, then you're then you're a rag and Fitch because you lied to this, man. So if she is your sicko, if she had agreed than she would have been sick in the head, and the fact that she took the money, knowing, you know, fully wallet. She wasn't going to give her up. Also makes her breeding grub. But Caridi rub I life. Degree the greedy grub. Yeah. Yeah. That's basically what she is. So okay. So we got that one. So that's one little blurb blurb from the paper, then we got another one here March fifth again same day. Wow. It just seems to be. Yeah. We got we got I swear to God. I swear to God they're all from four of them are from March fifth and one of them is from like four days later. So this one reads bride and bandit are near death. I like this Cleveland druggist attacked by robbers shoots and wife badly wounded when robber returns fire so Cleveland to persons wanna bride of three weeks were near death in hospitals. Where today is a result of a gun battle Sunday between a druggist and to hold up men. The injured MRs Ruth Taylor poke nineteen wife of Joseph poke twenty seven and Sam Carchi Oni twenty one. So those are the wounded people Sam Cioni is one. The the bad guys. Mrs poke is in Saint Luke's hospital with two bullets one thought to be lodged in her spine, which may paralyze her for life. If she recovers cartoon has a bullet wound over the heart the shooting occurred as poke in his wife or leaving their drugstore Polk was ordered to put his hands poke whipped out a gun and started firing the robbers returned his fire and MRs poke fell to the street, but is one of the whole bed was wounded, but his companion dragged into an automobile and the pair of scape. Police say cartoon who later appeared to charity hospital for treatment was one of them. In a second was held at central police station who police say has admitted being cartoons company early Sunday. So I tried to find more on these people as well. And I find out. There's a census record of Reuss Taylor poke like ten years later living with her brother-in-law. And I believe there's a kid somewhere. So she obviously survived she survived. But he doesn't survive. He dies like within the ten years 'cause she's living with her brother-in-law. And I can't for the life of me. Remember how he died or what I was looking for the death certificate, but I saw somewhere that there was something about either a record of it in the census or something about Joseph poke and being that age around around that age dine. So an think it was from this, particular instance, I think it was something else. But yeah, so and it doesn't even tell you if she ever was even paralyzed. So I'm like damn it. So again, another little side story of bride and bandit near death. She didn't die a blip on the screen yet. She didn't die. So I mean, she died at some point. But not that. So then I have this one. This one's kinda said this one made me said, I was like all all right. This is also March Vic all the shit's going down on the same day is is is that was there like an eclipse? I dunno. They're not seeing towns, which is what's crazy. I know could it be clips. Frigging? It's Detroit Cleveland, if you believe if you believe in such things, Detroit Cleveland and Chicago so far now, I'm going to Rochester. Okay. So the headline goes Rochester. Man kills his wife and then takes his own life. This made me sad this one. I don't I I feel bad. It says brooding over incurable stomach ailment. Bodies found by daughter. Rochester on March third brooding over incurable stomach ailment is thought to be the reason which prompted George Burnham of this city to kill his wife and then take his own life early Sunday. The body of mrS Burnham was found with their skull smashed in while the body of her husband with the head blown off was found in the basement of the home by daughter and her husband who had come over on Sunday visitor parents and then it says kill selfless. Shotgun officials are of the belief that Burnham killed his wife with a hammer and then shot himself shotgun. The gun was found beside the body of the suicide a hammer with bloodstains was found in the kitchen sink where it appears that Burnham attempted to wash off the stains after hammering his wife to death, so murder Susa. Yeah. Heading curable ailments Burnham who formerly lived in plain view was a retired farmer and considered wealthy recently. He was told by a physician that he was suffering from an incurable stomach ailment and probably would not live many years. It is thought that this led to his brooding which culminated. In the tragedy. mrS Burnham was fifty two and her husband was sixty two. So she's not just for minute. I thought it's one of these, you know, doctor Kevorkian where he kills her because she sick, right? And then of course kills himself. Because of course, he's killed her and write whatever, but not doctor Kevorkian. This was he's dying after head in he's dying of stomach ailment, which would have to kill her. I don't know. Well, that's the sad part. That's what I thought was so sad. I'm like did these people like they're farmers, right? That's the said, they were farmers. So usually. You're pretty tight with your spouse when your armor because you have to work the land together entity have to smush your head. Well, that's that's that's where that's where. I'm said. I'm sorry. I don't I don't get the connection because. Well, that's where I'm sad because I'm like did they have a conversation. You know, the he could've shot her live. Maybe maybe she didn't want her head. Well, you could hit somebody in the head. So hard one time that you fucking put them out. And they don't realize after the second time you hit them. Maybe she didn't want to be shot in the face. I mean, he shot himself in the head. Right. Well, that's so I don't know whatever he wanted to do to himself get. But that's that's how I feel sad. I don't know if they plan this. But like it made me well, first of all what I think stomach ailment, and I think nineteen twenty eight probably pancreatic cancer. That's exactly what I'm thinking. I'm thinking like a stomach cancer some kind of pancreatic cancer like and then they're saying he could not live many years. I don't. I mean, how bad could this possibly have been? There's the phone again people. So I don't know how I don't know how bad it could have been for him. But I don't know if he did it to himself or I mean did it to himself. I'm sorry. I don't know if they talked about it, and he did it to her because she didn't want to be shot while we can speculate till the cows, come home it. That's what she again. There's nothing here. It's just he had a stomach ailment. It was incurable. And he they found him his wife. Hammered to death him shot in it. I'd get it that he might have been I get that. He might have been depressed, and he would kill himself goes. I mean that can happen. But I'm just I'm just wondering why he had to. But again, we speculate. That's why it makes me sad because I'm like, well, what if they had a conversation. And then I felt even worse. I'm like son of a bitch that their daughter found them and their son in laws like among people that unfortunately that do that. They don't think and I guess that's not. On their priority list to think about no, we know that in your own personal life, my best friend. Did it you know, they and his mother found him and. Yeah. And I'm sure that's not a fun memory in her mind ever for the rest of them are likely. They don't they don't. I don't think they think that far. I think it's a question of a lot of times. Just I don't I don't wanna be in any kind of pain anymore. I don't wanna think about it anymore. Personally. If I have to talk about St. Pete, he didn't think about I don't think he thought about it. I just think he thought about getting it over with. And that was it. But you know, again, I have no idea what these poor people did. But they they should have thought a little bit better about their daughter. Finding them for Christ sake. I mean, they knew she was coming over to eat on Sunday. But that's what we're saying. Is that most times people who commit suicide do not? I want to say they don't care find some. But I don't think they think it all the way through. I don't think they sometimes I guess they do. But not always again, what I think people that again, I, you know, I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination. We've we've hug somebody in in in our inner circle. Like, you said you mentioned Steve of having committed suicide, and it's it's not a subject that I'm very comfortable with. But I think a lot of times again because I don't think of doing that that I think it all the way through and go, okay, I'm gonna do this step number two was and then when I'm gone this on this. I'm gone, but what happens, and I think that's maybe what what stops a lot of us from actually taking final step and saying, okay, I can't I can't deal with, you know, a financial problems in my life emotional problems. My life. And I think we take it to that next step where we say, you know. Okay. Somebody's gonna find my body. And do I want that family member to, you know, or friend or whatever to find me, you know, that's unfortunately, tragic, it's bad enough to find a family member who's passed away a medical reason in, you know, they just, you know, you find them, but for someone to take their own life, and sometimes I find that's very selfish. But again, I'm not not an expert. I only think of it in my own terms and. Yeah. Oh, it's a little bit selfish. It look I think I think as the person who had to deal with the aftermath of my best friend doing it selfish because and the questions even now we don't know they're paying though. That's no, I we don't know. They're paying I'm okay with we don't understand that pain because otherwise we'd all be committing right? But I'm just saying we don't I'm okay with dealing with that that he was in pain. I'm just not okay with dealing with the questions, which still exist after so many years. But again this girl of whoever their daughter is she obviously again, I didn't research her. I didn't really want to bother her because I was like, well, she may not be alive, but her grain her kids, if she had any early life, and I don't really want to look these people up and be like, hey, can I talk to you about your grandparents, you're grandfathered killing your grandma and then killing himself. I mean, it's not a conversation. You have sent me. I think that we. Have enough with the, you know, cessation wisdom, sometimes of some of these these people that kill the family members of whatever I think, unfortunately, a lot of times. Family members pay pay the price of the paparazzi so salacious garbage. Will we were just seeing it yesterday? My mother yesterday watch what is it called again on the? Merger in my family murderer in what is it called? Yeah. Things. Call murder my family. It's the of the sister of John Wingate, see and feel bad for this lady's, forty years later. I mean, this is a four decades later they're still she still trying to find a way to apologize to the family. Members of the the the men that her brother killed she didn't do anything on. But that's another the worst part. She's our whole life has been shattered by if your person with our if your person with a conscience, you have to feel for these people if you're not, you know, a nutjob you have to feel I mean, you could see the pain in face. It's it's like four decades later, we're talking forty years that this person. Recognizes the fact that her brother was one of the most prolific serial killers on Stor, and she, you know, end, of course, he's gone, but she still loves him, and you feel bad because she's also got that conflict to right? She hates she loves him. And you're like, how do you not love him as your brother like you had such good times with him? You didn't even wanna believe that. This was reality. Same thing with the daughter of batik, it's the same thing. Yeah. I mean, you know, as he was a good debt to her. So it's not love your dead. All she all she, you know, she remembered until the day that the the cops came to her door was you know, he's my dad. He took care of me. He loved me. He's grant we would go fishing. He was great. I didn't the only time she apparently of her saw anything strange about him was one time when he got angry with believe the brother, and, you know, for her it was I mean, it's it's got to be mind blowing in for somebody come to your door. And basically say what you're. Father is a monster monster, and you try to, you know, put it on a on a scale and go my dad who was good to me, blah, blah, blah. And then there's this other man who I don't know anything about I don't recognize this person. I don't know anything about this person. And you have to you have to live with that. So, unfortunately, that's why feel bad for this girl. Like, that's why it made me feel bad. I'm like, hopefully, these people had a conversation about their murder suicide, and it was like a mutual thing and not any lift like some kind of note or something for their daughter. And it wasn't just like, oh now this daughter finds this horrific scene in the house and she's like oh shit. My father's a murderer. He killed my mother as opposed to like, this was a mutual thing where they chose to do this again, the we'll never know that that small power raff. You'll never know is is you know, like like we said it's a blip on the screen for them for their family. Of course, it's not a blip. On the screen, right? But for the Newsday that Lisa blip on the screen. Yeah. Just like tall was just like this next one which is not about murder. It's just a sick one. It's just fucking sick. It's from three days after that. It's March eighth nineteen twenty eight. And it's I I saw it. And I was like I don't understand when I read the title, and I had to read the story when I read the story. Understood. And I said oh fuck. All right. So the title reads stepfather of child. Stepfather of child mother comma fails provide. So that's the title. And it was like, I don't understand. So Michigan city Marci William house. Fifty two living on the Johnson road. South of the city was Wednesday sentenced to a term of five to twenty one years in the state prison by judge j c Richter in the circuit court in LaPorte where he pleaded guilty to charges of seduction of his twelve year old adopted daughter and being the father of her child. Yes. Major gross. Yes. House was given the stiff sentence stiff says is. Gonna give him a stiffy. Alright. When he when he refused to sell his farm, south of the city in order to make it possible for his daughter to get a thousand dollars for support house. So he refused to sell his farm, but he's okay with fucking his daughter and pregnant in her. But now he's not going to sell his farm to come up with the books to take care of her support piece of shit. So. House was arrested following months of investigation by MRs Lillian Hendricks county probation officer. Thank God for MRs Lillian fucking Hendrix who basically seriously. She investigated this piece of shit for months. She knew something was up the two children the girl in this case and her brother were doubted by Mr. and MRs house two years ago. Mrs house died suddenly. Oh, that's a red flag. And until recently, Mr. house had been carrying for the girl last year house way Louis he was coming for the one the little boy doesn't even say anything about the going. That's what pisses me off. All right. So last year house took his adopted daughter to Kansas City. And that's where it ended for me. That's where I was like, oh, Kansas City. Really yet. It's like all right. For people who don't know. I used to work also in the Dopp Shen reunification industry and there used to be a training. You can read about it. There's books about it. You can look at it online. I'm not gonna go deep into detail about it. 'cause it's it's a it's a whole fucking three episodes long type of thing. If you want to do something on that. There was a train that used to go from either side of the coast from the United States, east coast, west coast in these kind of meet in the middle in the Kansas, Missouri area, and they used to basically take young teenage pregnant girls, and these to dump them on these trains, and you would go quote, unquote. Visit your aunt for the summer, or you know, you you were delinquent and you would be shipped off. And then you come back, but you'd come back, and you wouldn't be pregnant, and you would most likely have done hard labor had your baby stripped away from you. You would have been abused. You would have been beaten. And then you get dumped back on the train and send back to your family. So that's what happened. So when I saw Kansas City, I'm like, oh Jesus Christ. What did they do? This girl. So yet last year house to adopted girl to Kansas City, telling neighbors and friends that she was afflicted with a serious ailment. Again, these bullshit stories to tell and that he would place her in a sanitarium and later in the care of an aunt yet. So what he did was he shipped her off either on the baby train or took her himself and basically made up of bullshit story, and it is alleged that the baby was born in March of nineteen twenty seven excuse me. So he made a bullshit story to cover up his paedophilia and his raping of his stepchild of his Dopp the child I should say and the birth of his actual child. He's a piece of shit. I couldn't find anything on William houses ex MRs house. I was trying to figure out if he killed her because he can burn store. It seems like she literally looked set. I feel so bad because on a bonfire first of all I feel bad because she's twelve and was. Raped by her fucking adoptive father. And God knows she had been dead for two years. Right. She's twelve when this is happening. So God knows if this was happening when she was ten we know nothing about the child, we know nothing about what happened to her because it doesn't say her name. I can't find the houses. I 'cause it doesn't say MRs houses name just as William house, and there's too many houses that come up in the in the records for some reason that I can't find him and that the deaths of his wife two years previous under. Well, it doesn't say doesn't say under mysterious circumstances may have just died of something. And God knows what a nice about again again to Brooke ULA who the rat poison. Yeah. But I mean, we don't know I can't find the death certificate. So if I find it I'll bring it up as a as an update. But yes, so this guy was raping his fucking adopted daughter. I found that in the newspaper. I'm like, this is awesome. And I'm obviously being concert cast. All right. This one was fun. This is the date on this is March fifth nineteen twenty eight I only got this one in one more. So it says crazed man of seventy shoots near church. Well, of course, this got to be a church, Jack. Jack, Chrissy Hinton of Kansas City, Missouri. The estranged husband. Churchgoers thrown into a panic when he fire six shots. So this is awesome to make sure. Yup. Pretty much. Yeah. Kansas City, Missouri, March fifth first degree murder charges. Probably will be filed today against Christie Hamson seventy year old estrange husband who Sunday shot and killed his wife and wounded two others. The shooting occurred in front of the first church of Christ while Hampton's wife and her son in law and daughter, Mr. and MRs Paul a Hutchins were about to step into their automobile. After attending church churchgoers were thrown into a panic. When a half dozen shots from Hamptons pistol broke, the Sabbath quiet, quote, they treated me awfully dirty. And I wanted to kill all three of them. Hampton told police who arrested him after the shooting. Mrs flora e Hampton sixty five the crazed man's wife. From whom he had been separated for two months was fatally wounded as she was about to enter enter Hutchins motorcar. She was shot once the bullet lodging at the base of her Brin. She died before aid could be summoned after killing his wife Hamptons shut hutches five times and her husband once. When he attempts, my gut attempted to get control of the gun. Mrs edges conditions was reported critical at the hospital where she was taken her husband's condition is not serious. Hampton was overpowered by a patrolman and taken to police headquarters where he admitted he had been drinking all that helps Gunson booze. He said he had suffered ill-treatment at the hands of his wife and relatives in wanted to kill them. All he decided to kill them. What he learned his wife had fled at. I'm sorry had filed suit for divorce and when MRs Hudson's scolded him for his failure to support his wife. You ain't a man's man. That's pretty much what he got told by his. I guess stepdaughter yet you taking care of my mother properly, and she filed for divorce in he got a little bit tipsy in got a gun in what's church? That's what I said church guns booze criminal just a trifecta a trifecta. I'll never understand these people really don't I don't. I mean, I understand that. When you start mixing booze. And guns. Not a good thing. Not a busy. Nope. And my last story is from March ninth nineteen twenty eight and this is about a lady named Anna Horning and show you the picture in a second mom, but there is a picture, and it says, a bitter, a bitter, parental coral ending in the fatal shooting of their father was the tragic Chicago drama witnessed by these three. Children of Mrs Anna, Horning confessed murderess shown here with her fatherless youngsters finally a man gets shot. Yeah. Like Joseph your twelve year old killing his dead. Get there you go children's see mother killed dad is the top in here. Now before I continue with the story the photo there. The boys. And their mother. She shuttle fees, actually, a lovely looking lady. Wow. Shown here with her fatherless youngsters well. What did he do? What did he do? Good question. Mom. What to do? That's a good question. So little news, people are blurb woman shoots are husband has three children, watch Jesus. And it's as Chicago March fifth in the presence of her three sons MRs in Horning shot and killed her husband when he attempted to beat her. Well. There we go. So the husband George forty four years old came home and talks gate. We're going to go get it right guns booze. She told the police when he attempted to abuser. She rushed into the bedroom. Revolver shot him three times straight up. There you go. The Suns are George junior seventeen Edward twelve and John ten they saw this lane. So, unfortunately, they witness that what they did not really sure 'cause it doesn't really say the blurb is really teeny. And then I have another one woman kills her husband before three freed by the jury. Mrs Anna horny, oh. Uh-huh. So it says a three four four south through St. shot and killed her husband with a mail order pistol, a mail order pistol people did you hear what I just fucking said they ordered it through the mail mail order pistol, which purchase more than a year ago for that purpose Sunday. It's like Hello fresh, but with guns. Yeah. The act was committed while her three children looked on. She then call the police in inform them of the murder. Mrs hoarding told how the dead man abused her previous to the shooting and said that she pointed the gun at him and told him to stop and that she was so terrified that you put trigger twice before she knew what had happened and this is before the burning bed. You remember the movie with Firefox citizen nineteen twenty eight? This is will be I'm just saying that's the burning bed. That's like enough already. You're you're beating I'm done with delay with that crap. A coroner's jury exonerated MRs Horning finding that her act was committed in self-defense. There you go. And one for the good guys than it says. In another little blur. It's basically the same. But then I find. Her sons again are like seventeen twelve in what seventeen twelve and ten right? So I'm like what happened to these people? So I find in article that when I actually have to pull it up because it went away. But when I pulled up it says that her children there are the only three, but one of them doesn't go by John John goes by lake. Something else. He goes by Glenn. That's weird. Yeah. So I mean, John is close like James or something. So while because I look up the census records for them. Right. And it says George Horne as the father. Okay. He was forty four storage junior. And what the hell southern George. George Edward, John. So I find George. Horning and it says George Horning death nineteen twenty eight age forty three. It's the father. Okay. We're still doing the that March date, which is uncanny. Yeah. He died. This is the fourth of March. And it's in Chicago. It's just forty three years old not forty four. So the newspaper could have been wrong. And then it is occupied occupation switchmen, which I believe was for the. Yes, I think it's for the wasn't for the trains something like that. I don't know. I'll have to look that up into for wrong. Tell us I don't know. And then it says fathers named John Horning than but the wife's name spouse, Anna Horning, so I'm like, okay. So that's that's his death is death certificate. Perfect. Wonderful. So that's the dead guy who was abusing his wife, then I find another one that says George Horning, and when you scroll down it says wife and a bronchial which is Anna pointing and it says name Glenn warning. They don't have a sudden named Glenn will John Glenn. So I see it says he was he died December nineteen seventy eight at sixty seven years old. And he was a retired elevator operator. And he died in Illinois, and he was married to a lady named Hildegard men T so or meant so one of his kids, I found he lived until the euro was basically born and died right before Christmas nineteen seventy eight of sixty seven then. I found. Basically the same thing for him. But he's the only kid that I can find I can't really find any other kids. I find Glenn Horning in a census and it says. At the bottom that he lives in the house with Anna voting who at that time is fifty two this is the nineteen forty cents. She's fifty two Glenn Horning, which is John is twenty nine. It doesn't say William it says will will yard. But I think they made a mistake. He's twenty four and Leonard which I think is George junior is twenty two. This is a make any sense. So but all the their kids here. So they're all still alive. She's still alive at the age of fifty two. So that's all I could find on them. And those are my little short stories to share with you today mother. Right. And that is episode two. And we want to give it a shadow to someone our Canadian friends since. Oh, yeah. I forgot. I wanna tell people that. Oh my God. Thanks. You reminded me. So one thing about the podcast is at right now, my mother, and I are able to do this in the same room because she is here in Florida where I live on vacation, but she leaves in less than a week and I had a way for us to record through an app, but that has been malfunctioning, and I've been going back and forth with the developer so mom actually lives in Montreal. And we're going to probably have to record a few episodes. And then kind of go on a hiatus until I can figure out how to tape it. So yeah. Wanna say hi to the Canadian peeps? Who know that we're doing this Aloom Ismi? Do you wanna do your what is it? Typically techno, I know because. It's very embarrassing one day. I'll do it with the listeners. Don't know. What that is yet. But they'll know soon enough, so yeah, I'm gonna have to figure out how to do the podcast from Montreal to Florida, but it will happen because I've got tons of stories to tell mom, so we will figure it out. But for now, I will absolutely get the social media up and running before we record again. So that I can give it to you guys. And you guys can start emailing us if you weren't. So hope you guys have a good time say bye.

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#A238 (appurtenant to apron)

"Hello words and welcome to a new episode of the dictionary. If your birthday is October fourth happy birthday if it's not listen to this another day a and pretend I said a different day so I just landed about two hours ago from a work trip in Orlando I'm a running a little bit loa episodes and so I need to record more so I can edit them because in addition. I am actually leaving tomorrow morning to go to L. A. For personal reasons those personal reasons are kind of silly. I have decided to be a guest. I kind of invited myself actually to be a guest on the Weird Alphabet podcast. They go through weird. Al Songs in alphabetical order and discuss them. Each episode is a different Song. They were gracious enough to let me come down and and record this which I will be doing ooh from the time recording this two days from now. If you're a fan of weird now music. I suggest you go check out this podcast if you're not I suggest you listen to it anyway. at the very least listened to my wonderfully lead dulcet vocal tones. No don't do that but you should still listen anyway. Let's get to the words we are at the top of page sixty two and end. The first word is a pertinent. I think our last word was a pertinence. This is spelled eight P. P. U. R. T. E. N. In a N T it's an adjective from the fourteenth century one constituting a legal accompaniment to we have these synonyms auxiliary zillion and accessory or is it auxiliary however you WanNa say it. That's the word as in a pertinent equipment and a pertinent is also a noun. Now we have an abbreviation. It is capital A. P. R. and it is an abbreviation for April now. We have a P. R. again but it is all caps and it's an abbreviation for annual percentage rate when you become an adult. This is an an abbreviation. UC pretty often next we have APRAXIA AP are a Exi-. This is a noun from circa eighteen eighteen eighty one loss or impairment of the ability to execute complex coordinated movements without muscular or sensory impairment a practic A. P. R. A. C. T. I C. or a practic are adjectives. The etymology says this is is from a Greek word which means inaction. It doesn't tell me what the word is or maybe a proxy is the Greek word and that is from a plus praxis which means action win and that is from processing which means to do and there's more at the word practical next we have apprai- eight P. R. E. S. and the E has an accent over it. This is French Let's see this is a preposition from eighteen eighty nine and it just has the synonym them after a F. T. R. as in Apprai- tennis and it is usually used in combination as in Apprai- theater party eighty so after theater party now. We have a prey ski. That's the ski word where you put the two things on your feet and you go down the snow. and there is a hyphen in between the two words. This is a noun from nineteen fifty one and it just says social activity as at a ski lodge after after a day's skiing. I'm sure many of you have had a day of skiing or even an hour of Skien and then decided that was enough. I'm done with that and I'm GonNa go relax and that would be called up. Ray Ski next we have the word apricot or as some people like to say April caught. This is a noun from fifteen eighty one a the oval orange colored fruit of a temperate zone tree resembling. The related did peach and plum in flavor. The temperate zone tree is pruning are many aca one be a a tree that bears apricots to a variable color averaging a moderate orange the says that this is an alternative of the earlier word labral cock a B. R. E. C. O. C. K. which is from the Arabic Al Beer Cook which which means the apricot and that is from the Latin person come or pry Cox which literally means early ripening gene and then in parentheses it says peach and there's more at the word precocious interesting next. We have the word April the month. I'm guessing I've seen this is a noun from before the twelfth century the fourth month of the Gregorian calendar now we have April fool. This is a Noun Amoun- From Sixteen Ninety three the butt of a joke or trick played on April fools. Day also such a joke or trick fun. Fact One of my good friends is actually born on April fools day and it explains so much that is our next word April Fools Day it could to be pronounced April Fools Day with a Apostrophe S. for fools or it could be fools is with the apostrophe after the S. This is a noun from seventeen fifty three April first characteristically marked by the plane of practical jokes next we have a a priori and this is bringing up nightmares of a previous word. If you don't know what those nightmares are please go back and listen to everything. This is an adjective from sixteen fifty to one a synonym is deductive one B relating to or derived by reasoning from self evident propositions compared to here. It is a Posteriori now. I looked this up after I edited the episode and maybe I should do that again. The emphasis was on a different part than I expected so I think it's pronounced a or a poster real story poster Yori sure. Let's just say that's good. Hopefully I redeem myself. all right here. We we go with one C. presupposed by experience to a being without examination or analysis synonym mm-hmm is presumptive to be formed or conceived beforehand. A Priori also an adverb and a priority. We already is a noun. This is Latin and it literally means from the former all right next and last WORD IS APRON API R. O. Oh n this is a noun from the fifteenth century one a garment usually of cloth plastic or leather usually tied around the waist and use is to protect clothing or adorn a costume to something that suggests or resembles an apron in shape position or use as has to a the lower member under the sill of the interior casing of a window to be an upward or downward vertical extension extension of a bathroom fixture as a sink or tub to see an endless belt for carrying material to D- An extensive fan shaped deposit of detritus to e the part of the stage in front of the Prosciutto arch to f the area along the waterfront edge of a pier or wharf to g a shield as of concrete or gravel to protect tech against erosion as of a waterway by water to h the extensive paved part of an airport immediately adjacent to the Terminal Area Korea or hangers. That was a lot of definitions. We have an adjective form. It is aproned the etymology says this is a middle English and an alternative from a word Knapman or neighboring which is for Middle French nop Iran which is a diminutive of nape which means cloth which is modified of the Latin Mapa which means Napkin. I'm going to pick up ray ski as as the word of the episode because it's just a such a great feeling to just relax after you've done something physically active. It feels so good to be physically the active but then when you're done it just feels so good to relax and know that you you worked out you did something good for your body and now you can just chill so that's the end of the episode. Thank you very much for listening until next time. This is Spencer reading the dictionary goodbye.

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Our Own People

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Our Own People

"A quick note before we get started. This episode contains descriptions of racial violence. The date was february twenty first. It was a sunday and her oldest son billion teenager were among the audience in the audubon ballroom in harlem to listen to malcolm. Give his message. I think whole week there was a lot of rumors going on. There's something might happen to malcolm. Brother malcolm had the week before it had his house. Bombed many of you know somebody. Who's some bombs inside my house. Normally i wouldn't get excited over a few bombs but the one who do these aim them in room where three of my daughter one daughter one daughter four and one daughter too and on that day february twenty one thousand nine hundred sixty five when brother malcolm got up to speak. There was a distraction in the audience. What guy gone get hands my pocket and they start. Why and just the gunfire went off and his hand was up. I remember this. I turned around quickly. And the next thing i saw was malcolm falling back into debt thing. He fell back with gunshots to his chess. Cheer for being knocked over. There were screams Everybody was mad confusion and in this commotion of course everyone dumped for cover including ferry and her son billy. Malcolm's wife betty and their young children were in the audience that day as well. But then yuri saw someone run up to the stage to try to help malcolm and she cried out a receipt and follow him up on stage and picked up his head and just out my lab. This was remarkable. Everybody was scared trying to to protect their own lives which is completely understandable and require chioma runs onto stage places. Malcolm's head on her lap and tries to offer some kind of comfort people ash. What did he say. he didn't say anything. He was just having a difficult time. Greeting what did you say to him. Please welcome about stay alive in that. Fateful moment as yori katayama cradle. Malcolm's head in her arms a close associate of malcolm x. Took a photo. It has an almost ethereal quality to it. A fallen warrior is closed. Wounds exposed white shirt stained with blood being held in the arms of a loved one. Eureka chioma cheese dressed in all black kneeling on the ground her back hunched over malcolm her hands holding up his head and her is pointed down at his face looking at her. You get a sense of fear and panic but also a certain gentleness and care and a couple of weeks later. This photo ended up in the pages of life magazine. But yuri's name was nowhere to be found and yet why was this asian woman in the room right. And what does this say about black asian relations anyway. I think that those are some of the questions that we need to raise and ask eureko. Chioma dedicated her life to social justice for people of all backgrounds. She fought for black liberation alongside malcolm x. for puerto rican rights alongside the young lords for better labor practices among the working class and she was instrumental in building asian-american movements. I'm rundown irom. Tina louis and on this episode of through line from npr the radical solidarity of coach among we are us grappling with increasing violence against asian americans including the brutal killing of six asian women in atlanta and then elderly time in san francisco. There have been a number of incidents recently of api elders of chinese elders a southeast asian elders who have been walking in this community and have been attacked senselessly. It has raised long-simmering simmering questions about the treatment of asian-americans especially since the pandemic began last march avalanche of anti asian american. Hate crimes hate crimes against asian-americans in major cities reportedly surged nearly one hundred fifty percent in twenty twenty america. We have a problem. I find myself constantly thinking about. What would you redo in this situation. This is diane fujino. Professor of asian american studies at uc santa barbara and author of the book heartbeat of struggle the revolutionary life of eurico. Chima yeary is always present with me. She not only dedicated her entire life to fierce political struggle but she was also somebody who tried to treat the individuals in the movement and in communities with great. Love what we would call today. Collective care collective care solidarity that was at the heart of juries work and how she lived her life. She allowed me to interview her multiple times. Shave you abided me into her home. She tried to give me a key. The first time i met her because she thought that i would be stuck outside the cold case she arrived home late from a meeting and i refuse to accept that key but from the second time on that i visited in harlem. I would stay with her in her home. Diane often reflects on the conversations. They would have the wisdom. yuri would impart remember. that consciousness is power. tomorrow's world is yours to build. It's not going to be given to us. We have to demand. We have to build it together on the wall. I have all my heroes. Ramal comex fidel castro. Patrice lumumba k. Guevara asada shukor all the people in my family. Every one of the uri's legacy is complicated on the one hand. She was a pioneer in the asian american movement and supported freedom movements for many groups of people but she also had controversial views on some things including admiration for mousy dong and osama bin laden that stemmed from her radical opposition to american imperialism. Jury was open to new ideas and perspectives throughout her life. She was constantly evolving and embody different sometimes uncomfortable values so in this episode. We're gonna journey into the life of yuriko chioma to explore how she developed her complex world view which she thought about the asian american struggle. And what collective care can mean for all struggles. Hi this is rebecca from santa fe new mexico. You're listening to through line from npr. This message comes from npr sponsor. Doc tele doc is here for you with twenty four seven access to board certified doctors who can diagnose and treat non emergency conditions like sinus infections. Allergy is rashes and more and tell. The doc's daughter's can where authorized call in a prescription to be filled at the pharmacy of your choice. Download the app today or visit. Hello doc dot com slash. Npr npr's pop culture. Happy hour. podcast we talk about movies. Music and more like greek. Pottery throwdown is comforting binge-watch and a look back at some of chadwick boseman essential performances. All of that around twenty minutes every weekday. Listen now to the pack litter happy hour. Podcast from npr. Part one then came more work. I was red white and blue when i was growing up. I taught sunday school and was very very american. But i was also very provincial. We were just kids rooting for a high school. This is the voice of actress sandra. Oh who you might know from shows like grey's anatomy or killing eve. Twos reciting an essay by eurico chima from nineteen ninety. One called then came the war. I was nineteen. I just finished junior college. I was looking for a job and didn't realize how different the school world is from. The world into work wrong was very different. Lots of people especially asian. American women have recited this essay over the decades. It takes you back to a different time in. Us history was nineteen forty one just before the war. I finally did get a job at a department store for us back then. It was a big thing. Because i don't think they had never heard in one thousand nine hundred eighty one. Do you do ladies and gentlemen. Gas was nineteen cents a gallon and wells. I'm speaking for the mercury theatre. What follows is supposed to advertise. I motion picture citizen. Kane is the title was eaters bernie and of course the us was inching towards war own. I was so pro. You i think because i haven't good experience growing up. Some people. ten tro california. She was born to a japanese american family of some prominence. Her family was able to live right. Bumped up next to the white part of town but of course they could not pass that racial barrier right segregation during my whole young life. I didn't feel that much of prejudice. And i was very own. No refectory american. And this was the time before the development of ethnic studies before people like malcolm x. really rallying in very large scale ways a sense of pride in one's culture and so on one hand. Somebody like yeary spoke japanese in the home. Her parents were japanese immigrants rights. She was closely connected to japanese culture and then on the other hand like many niece say second generation japanese american wanted to be an american whatever that means right and i think in many ways it meant getting closer to white america but i really was ignorant. Guess ignorant about love and the war was already going on in europe. You know. Hitler was moving across europe. And all that but i know too much why that was happening. The sumba seventh nineteen forty one number. Seven is date a date which will live real long. Forget in infamy. On december seventh nineteen forty one at seven fifty five. Am japan attacked pearl harbor and within hours yuri's family the nakahara's got a knock on their door. Three guys walk in. I didn't know what they were to later. But it was fbi. And they asked. If mr nakahara looped i should oh yeah but he just came home from the hospital and you sleeping in the back. He had had ulcer surgery. They didn't saying it just went in the house when the back woke up. My father's peron your bastable slippers. I guess and they took them away. Just by that. Uri's father is detained and this happened to two or three thousand japanese american immigrant men in particular who picked up after the bombing of pearl harbor. We were calling each other up saying. Did anyone come to your house yet. Some of the people say yes some said no but they all had your os. The radios that japan bomb pearl harbor. So we said oh my god. We're all gonna be in trouble. Five weeks went by. Before yuri was allowed to visit her father a week later he was released but just one day after returning home he died. Perhaps from being moved so soon after surgery when the japanese attacked pearl harbor are west. Coast became a potential combat zone living in that zone where more than one hundred thousand persons of japanese military authorities therefore determined that all of them would have mo before long yeary who was twenty years old at this point along with her family and many other japanese people were forced to leave their homes their fates unknown. There were some people on the street who had shined. We're sorry juicy. You go you know you goal but there were also people who had signed say. Get out japs the hysteria of warm west grade high. The relocation centers super by the war relocation authority in unsettled parts of california arizona. Utah idaho wyoming colorado and arkansas. It helped her to recognize as a japanese-american. This is what yuri says and to see. The strength of the japanese american community had to survive is not just individuals but to come together as community. You know people grew gardens right. They figured out how to put partitions in the bathrooms to have a little privacy and dignity. There was great protest inside the concentration camps. she talked to a lot of people inside the camps. She listened to discussions of more politicized japanese-americans inside the camps. And i would say she started to grow a social consciousness a sense that problems in the united states had social structural. Orage notice that you called the what are typically referred to as internment can't japanese interment camps concentration camps. I wonder if that's intentional. And why decided she set term. Yeah thank thank you for that for drawing out a vocabulary which is so important and i borrow from the japanese american redress reprobation activists who talked about the ways that the us government used euphemisms right or kinder gentler words that ashley distort the real meanings of things to refer to. What happened to the japanese americans during world war two evacuation did not imply individual that loyalty in to reduce the military heather at a time when danger of invasion with great evacuation refers to moving to safety. But that's not what happened. It was forced right. It was done through racial profiling and racism against a group Who were the descendants of supposedly the enemy and so what. The japanese american activists community has called upon for decades. Is that if they be called concentration cats. We always called the camp's relocation centers while we were there now it feels apropos to call them concentration camps and when people say well that diminish what happened in nazi germany. Their response has been that those were death camps but these that yuri added japanese-americans were placed in work onto training camps. There was barbed wire. There were centuries they were forced to be placed into them their freedoms were limited to one hundred twenty thousand. Japanese americans were detained during world war. Two yuri spent two years living in a camp in that experience forever changed the way she viewed the us and its history. Who took history and food. I don't think we learned very much over anything. Historically americans have always been putting people behind walls. I there were the american. Indians were put on reservations. Africans and slavery on plantations. Mcconnell is doing migratory work and even to the chinese when they worked on the railroad camps. Your talk what a good country. America isn't it does so much good to the world. An all that crap believed it wholeheartedly. And certainly for the first time i felt something different when we come back eureko chioma begins to learn a whole different side of american history and comes face to face with malcolm x. For the first time a high. This is johnny waters east lansing michigan. And you're listening to through. Thank you for this podcast. I love it support for. 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You never remember this date november so by this point. Yuri was married to bill. Coach is a world war. two vet. They'd first met at the camp where yuri and her family were detained and well. They hit it off november. One you're in. Bill lived in mississippi for awhile and by the nineteen fifty s. They were living in new york in new york. There was not a large japanese-american community and so there wasn't too ready. Japanese american or asian american com- activists community to clogging to and in some ways jury and her husband bill. Were doing that. Work there supporting you know. Asian americans in route to the korean war right hosting gatherings at their home giving soldiers a sense of camaraderie decisions. I hope people would call it community activism. The first place i worked in new york was quoted nuts very famous restaurant and i got a job as a waitress. I loved that job and it was the first time i'm working with just black people. Two of the guys from the south. And so i mentioned to them that i lived a year. And a half enriches uso which everybody uso stands for the united service organizations a nonprofit that provides live entertainment to soldiers and their families but no black soldiers came in and so they should was the address. I gave the address. I could forget to twenty could find is a. That's the main drag. No black soldiers you will wearing. A uniform can go in anywhere on the main drive. I was shocked then. I got really interested and wanted to find out everything i could. About what black people on guns do and it made me. Shame when i could think of asians were just as racist whites towards blacks anyway. It was experiences like that. Talking to co workers and neighbors were black and puerto rican the began to educate your about the deep roots of segregation and racism in america yeary and others living in in the same building shared with each other. These were people who didn't always have a lot so they needed to share food with each other. they share childcare. They shared resources information and they talked. Sickness and ugliness of racism was exposed and the rest of the world as well by newspaper ran at the same time. She was following the news of the civil rights movement right unfolding on television and in the newspapers and she was seen things like water cannons blasting peaceful. Black protestors right dogs being sick on peaceful protesters. We're will cold. We will not eat more. Yeary learn the more. She wanted to learn more. She started to invite civil rights activists. She was quite unusual. She would just see people announced in the newspaper that they were speakers coming through town and she would call up columbia university and invite them to our her home and she was always also so extraordinarily modest and she just did this to try to get exposed and get the people around her exposed right. She also began getting involved in the labor movement. Racism is something that is the right or people of color if not people color would be poor. People have gone to that. This country is down only race conscious but clash conscious. Meanwhile yuri's family was growing. You know she became an activist and an organizer in her forties as the mother of six children. Wow right right. At the time. I had six kids. We had to move to a larger apartment. And you know we were living in a housing project low income housing and they were building a new low income housing in harlem so her family moves to harlem in one thousand nine hundred sixty. She tells a hilarious story of how they carried their whole. Life's their whole apartment full of stuff on the subway back and forth multiple times from midtown manhattan to new york to harlem g activism. I mean harlem was the place to go. She was really primed when she moved to column to get involved after the growth in her political consciousness during the fifties right and they activism around her in. Harlem is mostly in the black move. She got involved in supporting better quality schools for the children of harlem right now now including her own children and then she got involved in a labor struggle at a medical site where they were going to build a new medical building and were doing their typical right Discrimination in hiring during the summer of sixty three it was a fight for jobs for black and puerto ricans core had organized this the congress on racial equality to demand jobs for black and puerto rican construction workers and you know what they were doing was putting their bodies on the line to block the entry of construction trucks onto the site and to slow down the work and He did that and she got arrested. She was one of more than six hundred arrested. Started after this summer and one day. Malcolm walk through the door malcolm x. You know she was this monumental figure especially in harlem right where where he was based in the black community. People greatly admired him not. Everyone agreed with him but he was forced to recognize all the black actors. All ryan over to malcolm circled they. Were shaking hands she. I wanted to shake his hands to prevention. She may be. It's not right for me. Because i'm not black and somebody's not gonna like that. You wonder why asian. Watch do that. And i should. I'm gonna somehow. Yuri mustered the courage to yell out malcolm. Can i shake your head. He looked over at her. I think he was surprised. Asian women anyway and then he responded what ford. i said. i wouldn't have congratulate you. I don't know why said that. He's like congratulate me on what. Gosh what do i think congratulate him for for what you're doing for your people and we should. And what am i doing for my people. O'malley what july. Where i think giving directions malcolm x. Than smiled and put out his hand. So i ran a grab a and then i think very stupid of me i should. I admire you doing. But i don't agree with you about every. Initially what don't you agree with me about. Rahm harsh stand on. Its aggression whenever you are begging for a chance to participate in that which belongs to someone else. That's not dignity that's ignorance and used to. I don't have time to talk to you. But he said fuel really interested. He said you can call my secretary and make an appointment after her. Chance meeting with malcolm x. Yuri decided to write him a letter to clarify what she meant when she said your heart stand on immigration she says if people could show their true dedication to black liberation or two ratio justice. Could you then accept the togetherness civil people so even though she always had a vision for the togetherness of all people she was even then recognizing that the blame didn't leave reside within black people who wanted our economy spaces but in folks who exhibited anti-black racism and that they were the ones who needed to change before all people could come together in other words. Yuri thought integration could be the key to bringing people together through non-violence and in order for adapting non black americans. I had to recognize that they were the problem. But malcolm x. and other more radical members of the civil rights movement saw integration as a trap. They argued that integration really meant trying to get closer to white america not really all groups coming together as long as we sit around here trying to break through the white man's guide and go to the white man's church and into the white man. School will be brainwashed by the white man educational system and we'll continue to look down on ourselves and we'll continue to beggar to him because we'll continue to think that he superior to us and so is it integration subterfuge for white supremacy integration is generally talked about as black and white and she is an asian american woman. And i'm i'm trying to imagine where she saw herself fitting into this conversation around integration and herself and more broadly the asian american community. Yeah this was. This was the thing for asian americans always right. We were even smaller numbers than we are. Now a sense of invisibility which continues to the present. I would argue and in places in the south. Asian americans who had been to the south said everything was completely a black and white model and they know when they were black bathrooms and white bathrooms. Which ones should they use. Right and Asian americans who had gone to the south under that very explicit apartheid segregation systems said that. Sometimes they would be treated as black. Sometimes they would be treated as white. It wasn't clear and in places. Like new york's the black white model was pre dominant. But of course it was. It was mitigated. By having say puerto ricans in new york. Right and some asian americans and chinese americans in chinatown. So i think yuri occupy eliminate space right the space of ambiguity that was both constricting but also in certain ways allowed a kind of fluidity and allowed her to work in multiple movements as a person of great. Jared malcolm x. seemed receptive to feedback. He invites her to attend his organization of afro american unity newly formed after he left the nation of islam the only use liberation school and he joins and studies and it transforms her life. I feel that malcolm did more than anyone else to let me see what's really happening in the world and why they talked about black liberation in the us but also connected the dots between freedom struggles all around the world. He absolutely was four black liberation. That was front and foremost for him and he was also an internationalist and the third world when he talked to the he'll shema atomic bomb survivors in the coachie. Almost home in nineteen sixty four. He said to them right. You have been bombed in you. Bear their scars of the bombs and we to as black americans in the united states. Also bear the scars of bombs so he was constantly making these connections the whole system in this country. The economic system is such that Jobs are scarce. Automation is limiting jobs. It's it's it's decreasing jobs. Even for white people in the latter part of his life saw oppression as increasingly global anti black racism was increasingly connected to colonialism and capitalism writing what cedric robinson would call racial friction and hostility between the two races and seen socialism in africa as what people who were fighting for freedom were promoted wondering about what her views were on the violence as a form of resistance and i wonder how evolution of malcolm xs views impacted that right yes a very important question right And here again. Yeary was greatly impacted by malcolm x. And so malcolm What he did is he really announced the hypocrisy of the us government so he would say things like in referring to the korean war. How can you ask us black people to be non-violent how can you justify the mississippi and alabama when your churches are being bomb and you'll little girls are being murdered and at the same time you don't get founded with hitler in tokyo and somebody else that you don't even know said something like people have a right to violence to rebel to fight back and giving what the united states government in western powers have done to the third world. I feel these countries should fight back so the question is while everybody supports nonviolence as ideal. What do you do when you're fighting. State power and a greater power that exhibits violence that causes enormous violence both direct killings but also the violence of poverty and racist and colonial. One thing that occurs to me is that. I think i use the term asian american earlier and i realize that at that time there may not have been the same identification that we have to me now. We say asian where we can be referring to people chinese korean You know japanese descent but at during this time as you're is sort of grappling with all these different ideas. What was her sense of her own identity you know how was she defining herself and was there even a category ride. Absolutely i would say. She primarily identifies as japanese-american. I mean the asian american consciousness and identity and very term comes out of the asian american movement in the late sixties rides the asian american political alliance in berkeley. That's credited with coining the term asian american and it was both a term that was pan. Asian it was also third world distant connected kind of asian american identity to a third world identity and it was explicitly political as a form of resistance against racism. And so that asian american movement that emerges in the late sixties ish unique. Because it's the first time that asian americans come together in political ways in in large scale. Well i think the black liberation movement have influenced on every movement because they were really more advanced and nike or the other move sort of followed suit knowing what race has done to this country and the ceiling of white superiority that has spread all over the world when we come back. Yuri helps build the asian american movement and in the face of tragedy finds unity. Hi this is mike calling from denver colorado and you are listening to through line from npr support for this podcast and the following message come from the american jewish world service working together for more than thirty years to build a more just and equitable world. Learn more at age. Aws dot org part. Three vision matters to save on june. The nineteenth nineteen eighty two vincent chin twenty-seven-year-old chinese american engineer was that his bachelor party in detroit opposed to get married a week. Later when he got into a fight with rural ibans an auto worker and a stepson. Michael nitz exactly what happened. Next is not clear. Vincent chin was mistaken for a japanese-american at the height of japan's rise in the auto industry. And the us's decline in the auto industry from across the ocean little cards determined to change the buying habits of a nation. Is that really powerful documentary. Who killed vincent chin shows at that time in detroit people were engaging in a lot of japan bashing and across the us people were upset about japan's global rise. We are being shot at and shot up. The japanese have the most protectionist economy if we remember world war two japan was not only defeated was under us military and Was so always supposed to be a junior partner to the united states in its global. Capitalists expansionism abroad began and spilled out into the street and on these two autoworkers attacked vincent chin and beat him with a baseball bat while one held him the other swung adam like home runs and they killed him both men denied using racist anti-asian language in pleaded guilty to manslaughter instead of second degree murder. But after they got very lenient sentences than people galvanized and launched the first pan asian movement in the community over the course of the previous decade leading up. To this moment jury coach yama have been organizing. The asian american movement mostly on college campuses putting together protests against the vietnam war lobbying for the development of ethnic studies programs but when vincent chin was brutally murdered. This new shared identity took on even greater meeting. It was a moment when the bitter reality of racism against asian americans couldn't be ignored and it helps solidify the movement beyond the campus. Asian nations have been the brunt of so many wars that young asians should do everything to offset that pattern and work for peace and work to bring about a world for natural resources can be shared. There must be ways set. We could work together. Yuri got involved in a group called asian-americans for action. She fought for reparations for japanese. American incarceration and she also found connections between the asian american struggle and the struggles other groups faced she protested and is alongside the young lords a group fighting for self-determination for puerto ricans and colonized people she lobbied for the release of political prisoners and in the aftermath of nine eleven. She spoke out against the racial profiling of muslim nations. This crucial moment when united states ready for a devastating retaliation of the bombing of america's symbol of power. And might we. Japanese americans should feel a with the harrop and muslim. People who are the newest darkest of racism is- hysteria jingoism in war. They say that. The first casualties yuri defended bin laden. She was further left than most leftists. She was adamantly anti imperialist and sometimes came under scrutiny for her public support of radical figures and groups ranging from bin laden to mazi dong to the shining path a communist organization in peru classified as a terrorist group as. We're talking about Her story one of the things that comes to mind as you said earlier interview about mutual care. I think that's the term you used And in a moment like we're living through right now where it feels like. Every few months feels like a new group of people whether back americans asian americans or for a time. It was muslim or middle eastern americans or of course native americans are targeted. What is her example. Tell us about the need to see that. Connectivity between the groups that are being targeted. Yes i think that there are two crucial lessons. The first one is what you're referring to write this need for solidarity that we cannot only look to the interest of our own people first of all who our own people right here right many of us cross multiple groups and and at the same time working only out of self interest gets us into a trap. It's like the model minority myths right where we work out of self interest but the gains that one group makes comes at an expense of other groups. this is not a model of liberation. It's very problematic model and one that yeary always resisted and yeary coachee yamaha always said operated by the ethos that my people's liberation is intricately linked to your people's liberation right. I cannot be free. If you're not free we need to think about how things impact the most vulnerable among us. Right and work out of those vestiges. The second thing that i think is really crucial here is that we cannot just work in reactionary ways. Every time there's an incident and new incident of an attack on asian-americans yet another police Are black person. Right of attacks against News people's and their lands and waters. This gets us nowhere. It's a constant battle and it's exhausting and what's most important is that we build movements for liberation how to really get to a place where we have transformed society where we work for transformational justice and not just transactional reforms and this means that we need to be moving beyond the low hanging fruit the kinds of work that's easiest to do and sometimes we have to try for those things that are really so hard maybe impossible. Maybe we won't make you know achieve them but maybe something happens. In the process the knowledge we gain the relationships. We build perhaps are more important than just attaining that. One smaller robbing kelly in his fabulous freedom dreams. He writes about how this very vision matters. Even if you never get there the vision matters. Eureka chima died on june first two thousand fourteen at the age of ninety three her life. Her struggle were guided by. That idea. keeps driving even if you don't always get there on visit to mississippi years after living. There yuri stopped by the grave of james chaney a young civil rights worker murdered by the clan in one thousand nine hundred sixty four. She wanted to honor his memory. And tell him that his vision mattered. You and your comrades goodman and warner are part of a history that can never be erased. Others have followed after you and always a struggle for a better safer equitable. World war continue. We are here to remember you and be inspired by life. If you wanna learn more about the history of anti asian sentiment in the united states go over and check out an episode from our fam- the npr podcast code switch about this very topic. It's a must-listen you should check out. That's it for this week's show. I'm ron fateh. I'm ramtane arab louis. 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Episode 12: Elizabeth Emmanuel

How I Got Here with Dave Fiore

1:07:56 hr | 1 year ago

Episode 12: Elizabeth Emmanuel

"Every opportunity that. I've been given I've been given five women largely women business owners and I think that's something that is a pretty unique and incredible opportunity from bussing tables at Jimmy's lunchbox Getting hired by Jimmy herself to working with Kari McNeil COCA TORE AND CHARLOTTE. Brand at Florida outdoor advertising association and then Susie Mazzola Beavis funeral. Home Barber Boone would leadership Tallahassee under Dick's leadership at the chamber pretty strong line. It's an incredible lineup. And so I think sometimes I get this. Of course I can do it because I look at the women that have come before me From Fury Communications. It's how I got here. A show of inspiring stories from Tallahassee area leaders business owners neighbors all the challenges opportunities. Inspirations the twists and turns of life that led them to where they are. Today everyone has a story worth telling and I am really grateful that we get to bring them to you. I truly have been changed by my conversations with these amazing people. And I'm confident you will be too. I'm Dave Yori in this episode. I speak with Elizabeth Emanuel. Ceo of the Tallahassee Downtown Improvement Authority the Tallahassee native started her career path on a field trip to a funeral home while at Tallahassee Community College where she was offered a job on the spot by her future mentor but it was a tragic personal loss during her time as a funeral director that led to the realization that she needed a break in the chance to pursue other opportunities while her career is taken some turns. It is her caring for people where they're mourning the loss of a loved one or pursuing opportunities to engage in their community that has made Elizabeth respected an influential leader. We start by talking about how Elizabeth would describe yourself today. Well I would say I'm a tallahassee native born and raised in Tallahassee and I did leave a few times but thanks to the strongest magnet in the world at FSU lab. I believe I was pulled back in pretty repeatedly And I think there's there's never been a better time to be in our community. I sort of refer to myself as professional enthusiast because part of what I get to do. Every day is be excited about what's happening in Tallahassee in especially in our downtown which I really feel is the heart of our community so you grew up in Tallahassee. So tell me about those early years. What was family life like for you in our hometown here? Yeah I kind of joked that I never really made it very far in life I've sort of always been downtown and Jason. I grew up in the Lafayette neighborhood. Kate Sullivan COBB. And Leon so all my schools were on one St and a lot of times. I could walk to them so even though I'm a millennial I still get to say when I was walking to school if you can relate to the old people I can I can. Yeah but I got to learn the value of a community from a street level at a very young age although I will say I spent most of my holidays and all of my summers up in North West Ohio so I was largely influenced in raised by my grandparents and my family out there what what was up there. I mean we're did. They live on a farm or something or my aunt and uncle dead. So it was pretty idyllic A lot of you know green pastures in cornfields and lakes I went to four h camp with my cousins every summer so got to learn a lot about cows and pigs and chickens and whatever their projects were I got to to sort of piggyback off of Which was a great learning experience but it was. It was awesome being able to ride bikes all day and living in a a very small town. Did you do that? A lot of summers. Every single one of my grandparents would drive down basically on the last day of school and pick me up. It was a sixteen hour drive. They got it in their head. One time that I liked cracker barrel. So we'd be there for every meal Do you ever master the golf tee game I am not as good as I should be given how often I've played down by now. You would think but I I am still someone that you could. You could win against with the farm thing. That's awesome my grandparents had a farm growing up and we didn't have to go far but at I mean those were magical times something. You can't really replicate in. It's a great experience. I know so. I feel really lucky that I got to grow up that way riding horses and dirt bikes and just kind of really getting to be a kid play outdoors creek combination between that and in Tallahassee. Nice there was always a good foil but it always made Tallahassee seemed like it was a much bigger city so I've kind of always viewed it as a more metropolitan place than I think a lot of other people would. Do you have any siblings? I do so I was an only child for twenty years and then I got the best thing ever which was a family I got to a sort of never referred to them as my step siblings even though we were all much older when we got together but two brothers and a sister so that's been the best thing ever okay one of your parents remarry for my mother remarried. Okay So She. She met her husband. Brick And I think with any buddy that goes through sort of a shift in family dynamics. It's always a little tencent for which is kind of funny to look back on because pretty quickly. He became just the most incredible father. I mean there was never a moment where he wasn't apparent to me So that was that was really remarkable to be able to have that and just be folded in to their family from day one. We're new siblings around the same age as you or different. Yes they actually the oldest son and I are the exact same age where like a month different And he went to child so we kind of lived. These parallel lives for our entire lives And then became a family so it was always kind of funny to tell people who my mom had married and who my family was But they're they're wonderful so they're thirty to thirty and then eighteen So my sister's the youngest but she's also the wisest in the most mature questions so she even know. Oh absolutely yes. She's a really good rock for our family. So what kind of kid were you think I was very curious? Kid always had a lot of questions in big imagination. I spent most of my time reading. Would you like to read probably stuff similar to what I still like? Okay I swear. I've grown up but science fiction. So I love to wrinkle in time and I guess the lion the witch and the wardrobe isn't necessarily science fiction but there's some So it was really honestly whatever I could get my hands on good in school Early on yes absolutely. We need a change occur I had some struggles in high school probably started realistically and a Middle School There were some subjects that I would excel in naturally literature and more of the English I did fairly well in science but I was really struggled with math and that that just got progressively more and more difficult year throughout school. I hate to stereotype but I was exactly the same way. Oh really I would have thought not because as I've been researching names statistically feminine names have lower. Math scores really really fed into that stereotype. I don't know what your excuses. I just wasn't good at it. I think to some people kind of I bought into that. I'm good at this side. I'm not getting the other side. Yeah myself feel better about it that way I guess. I think I did that too for a long time. Yeah so so you went to Leeann high and you were student body vice president. Yes I was so. Tell me about those years. What was high school like for you? I really enjoyed Leon. Its history and its since community It was one of those places that was really inclusive for a lot of things So I got to be a part of it. I think every club I could join. I did and then being with student. Government was just a really great foundation. There was a a group of us that have been friends for a number of years. That sort of rose through the ranks with student government sort of always cheering each other on and saying. Would you run for this year? Okay all run for this and and being very strategic about keeping our alliance together throughout high school but we got to accomplish a lot of really neat things together okay. Do you have any examples of that? What what kind of things did you accomplish? So we got to do a habitat for humanity. Build OUR SENIOR YEAR. We put on a lot of festivals and events winner fast Which was a great fundraising and ban showcase for all of the local talents. All of the dances and pep rallies. And it's it's really neat looking at Leon now to see how incredible they are. I mean those kids make us look tired with their ability to fundraise and support community causes but just getting to be a part of that and starting that from a young age was really impactful. Okay so do you ever do any of the The reunions the Leeann reunions. Yeah actually funny enough might have been planned the last one. He was actually senior class. President I will say. He was the caveat Or The interloper in our alliance he was not and you were vice president. He was president of senior. I was student body Vice President. This is a very important. Okay sorry you make sure we all understand the different. He was. Yeah so you. What you're doing here is making sure that everyone understands that. You had a higher position right. Yes and I thought that my ideas were better in his work so I spend a lot of time voting him down because he actually he beat my My one of my best friends for that position so he was part of the alliance. He came in at the eleventh hour. This new candidate rookie had never been an SGI nerve right right. Any any beater and so it disrupted a lot. Obviously you forgave him at some point. It wasn't until a number of years later. I'm glad you were able to overlook that we've all matured move on. Yeah you think leadership came naturally to you. Is it like innate in your personality or did you have to kind of push yourself out of your comfort zone a little bit? I've always had to push myself out of my comfort zone But I think there probably is a lot of innate. Tendencies that point in that direction. I'm always the person that says. Yes and I think. Sometimes that's how you end up in leadership positions you. You Say yes absolutely. I think there's a lot to be said for that but I've pushed myself a lot ticket to wear. Am So after high school you went to Tell Se community college right. Was it immediately after now? That was actually a close to a year later. Drink what did you do in between so I? I took nearly nearly a gap year and actually moved to several different places doing volunteer work. Okay so I spent the majority of my time in Cuba. And then well actually. Interestingly enough I spent the least amount of time in Cuba even though it was supposed to spend more it was in two thousand six when Fidel Castro seated is power to Raoul and so we actually Had to leave the country. Yeah which was unfortunate. Because it wasn't a dangerous place. It was a beautiful incredible place filled with wonderful people and I remember sitting in the the office at the embassy. They were trying to schedule flights to get us out in a kept telling them shake my head in the back of the person talking. I don't want to go it's fine here. Everything's spine but we ended up having to leave a few weeks earlier than we are supposed to and that I went on to Guatemala for a number of months and lived there working with a a great local group. The Monroe's they'd started Solomon's porch until we got to do a lot of really neat projects. Digging Ditches AIDS education so his hands on helping people in these communities. It was it was very hands on your coming alongside ministries. That are already existing. Come down to help out for a while. Yeah I mean in some of the things were you know. It's hard to tell what had greater impact sewing seat cushions for coffee shop or trying to teach people to brush their teeth. You know I have very mixed feelings about some of the things that I was involved with. But it was a really life changing experience and then went on to edit y and stayed there for a number of months at the time. The Bishop of Cuba the Episcopal Bishop was also the Bishop of utter y and so he spent six months in one place in six months and another so we tried to kind of follow along his travels seven He was very involved with AIDS education there as well and a homeless issues to ran a soup kitchen. So what am I childhood? Best friends and I just kind of spent a number of living and working with them. So did you go big group or just the two of you in. It's just the two of us. Wow Yeah and it's kind of wild looking back thinking. How young adventurous. Yeah how trusting your parents word. Say completely fine for you to go. So what was your motivation to go? Y You know right out of high school. Did you WANNA put things on hold to go do that. Well I think we'd come up with it the summer before I had been going to Cuba and this summer since I was fifteen on mission trips so I'd have a longstanding relationship by that point with a number of the families there and the year before they'd presented us with this. I think we probably presented it to them looking back to say we'll come live with you. Won't it be helpful but it was. It was great so I I'd actually didn't apply to any colleges because I knew I was going to do this And we would see when I got back where we go from there. Do you feel like that time. Impacted your outlook on things. Moving forward. Absolutely I think when you have those kind of experiences at a young age where you're sort of forced to be a little more independent because you can't just go home and it's actually very difficult to call home even But you you learn to depend on yourself on those around you and on the kindness of a lot of other people and you you bring yourself up so when you back then you decided to go to tell us a community college and get your Aa there. How did that go? It went miserably I failed out of my first semester. There so that was that was really difficult. Why do you think that happened? I think it was a number of things. assimilating back to American culture. Even though we weren't gone that long it was very hard to get back into a consistent routine because I'd been very flexible with how my days were. And the projects and suddenly new impatient deadlines were very difficult to tackle. It also was determined that I had a learning disability so I found out that matt specific learning disability. Add and so It was difficult at first but then finding tools to become a better student changed everything for me. I was going to ask so win. That was determined you were given tools. Allowances things that would allow a help. You be more successful yes absolutely. There is a great resource at FSU for learning disabilities testing center. There right yeah yeah so I spent time there and they had you know these are how you handle what you're dealt moving forward and it. It was a real game changer and being at TC see the teachers were really accommodating and helpful without understanding and kind of working through what it means to learn differently and being able to learn better right and that's so funny. That's why one of the reasons I love having these conversations because what I know of you and you know well-spoken positions of leadership high achiever. I would've thought learning was never a problem for you. It was always a struggle and I think I was good at talking my way out of it when I was in high school in any younger and saying this wasn't really an issue and but it's just attendance. It couldn't have been Brian. The fact that I couldn't learn Being hit with the level of accountability that you are when you are placed in in college. It became apparent very quickly that I had a real issue. So so you made it through you got your Aa. Yeah and after after that initial difficult semester. I think I got presidents list in Dean's list for my academics every semester. Moving forward but I dedicated a lot of time to learning correctly and spent a lot of time studying. I still do. Was it frustrating for you? When you realized how much easier it could be approaching the right way kind of the struggles you had earlier in. You wish you would've known that sooner absolutely without question but it was also really liberating because then you think you know as long as I have a plan and I have the right tools and I have the understanding of the professors and the teachers. It was so much easier. I don't have to do that anymore. I don't have to deal with those issues I can. I can learn about it. I was working smarter. That point not necessarily harder. Yeah so you finish up your AA degree. And then at what point do you decide to pursue funeral services as a as a career in your next stop in your education so it happened before I graduated from TC I thought after spending so much time in different facilities for people with AIDS that I would study something more helpful like nursing or epidemiology And one of the prerequisites for that was actually a class called Dan. Atallah Jersey knits the study of death and dying. So I took that class while I was at T. C. N. Interestingly enough the teacher always did field trips to funeral homes so I showed up for the field trip and sat in front. Because that's one of the things that they tell you to do. If you have a hard time concentrating sit in front. You take notes. While you're you're learning you ask questions to better digest the information so I did all of those things and afterwards the woman giving the presentation pulled me aside and said would you like job here and I looked at Aaron A you're crazy but then I thought more about it and she said no no really. We don't have a lot of young people in the industry. We don't have a lot of women. I mean she just had this incredible story about caring for the community and breaking glass ceilings. And what it meant to be a funeral director and it started really resonating than the caring compassion and she told me what they paid and it was wasn't too bad So I took her up on it and went in for an interview and was hired as a staff. Associate is what they called them cohee right. Yeah Kelly Matt would and the woman was Susie Zoellick. Just to name drop. But she's she's one of the most recognizable figures in the industry and not just because she's tall but because she's an incredibly wonderful woman and she took a chance on me and I took a chance on her and it. It changed my life so she obviously saw something in you more than just asking questions but you know saw kind of a spark an interest in you and would that mean to you that she she recognized. Adam pursued you in that way I think it was one of the first times in my life that that sort of happened and I was. I've always been very open to whatever. The Universe is pushing my way without sounding. Hokey but just I think you have to be open to the fact that these things get put in your life these opportunities for a reason and this seems like a a good one So I thought I shouldn't just brush this aside. I should really pay attention to what she's saying and what she sees in me because she's also not one to to do something in that manner is it turns out. She's a very very sensible woman It was the right time in all circumstances to do that so It was a pretty incredible opportunity. I got to do a lot of things at a very young age. yet so you're still going to school and studying general studies right for you. A. And then at the same time now. You're you're learning and industry learning you know kind of entering a career at the entry level right. Yeah so. What kind of activities were you doing? What were you? How are you helping? How learning the funeral services industry. Yeah it was. It was a great education early on in what that job entails because I learned firstly. But it's a twenty four seven job so I worked this shifts. That were not as appealing to other people I did removals which is actually when you go into a place where someone's passed away at you. Take THEM INTO THE FUNERAL. Homes care and that can happen at eleven. Am Eleven PM Three. Im it might be a nursing home or the scene of an accident. In most cases that I'm doing it was a very physically demanding job as well See you go out with a team of two people in a caught and he would physically take that person back into your care. Or in some instances the medical examiner. But it was. It was an interesting physical challenge In some instances because unfortunately not everyone passes away very peacefully in their homes so at the same time that I was Working as a staff associate at Kelly's I was also an embalming apprentice. So that's something that I've probably done the longest and I think it's one of the most important aspects of the funeral industry bowling It is a method of of cleansing the body and Retarding decomposition so it's essentially to restore lifelike appearance In a very sanitary way But it's it's a very Scientific Process of insuring that you've got the right balance of chemicals you understand what different aspects surrounded the death so that you can better equipped for it to a store that lifelike appearance. But it's it's one of the things that I miss the most about the industry Sometimes I sort of what I need to calm down I talk myself through the steps of embalming But it's it's a very respectful process. That has a great reward benefit to those people that see their loved one looking at peace right after you finished up at T C and Then you went onto continue your education at Mid America college funeral services. That's an Indiana right. So tell me about your experience there in with that was like yeah. I sort of joke. That mortuary schools exactly as creepy as you think it would be. It was a lot of people in trenchcoats surprising amount It was also Indiana so it was much colder there but there was an element of a mortuary school that attracted people For whatever reason that were sort of misfits But then there is a large percentage that we're also second and third generation business owners so it was a really interesting class dynamic to have people that certainly had a morbid curiosity. I think everybody in this classrooms did without question But our our classes. While I graduated with a Bachelor's Looks sort of like college classes but a little different so was it was a great time. a fascinating time. I really do with all of my challenges I love to learn and so this was just the most interesting set of classes. We had funeral law and religious practices and psychology of grief in family counseling at restorative art which was probably my favorite class. You actually end up modeling features human features and learning how to restore Features in the in the case that someone may have lost those and however they may have passed away but you learn a lot about color composition and skin tone and facial shapes and is fascinating practice. Tell me how important that is to a family to see their loved one the way they you know more like the way they remember them and not not the result of what may have happened to them. Yeah I think it's it's hugely important and and I know that personally and professionally to be able to look at your loved one and see that they look like themselves although it's very difficult because you learn pretty quickly in mortuary college and in life that some of those features that bring the most animation are persons is their mouth. And when you don't have those open Don't have the reactions you do. No one's ever going to look like themselves But being able to restore those lifelike features and part their hair the correct way and make sure they were wearing the right tone of blush lipstick or you know. Their skin wasn't too different than what it would be as their loved. Ones remember them at. It brings a great sense of comfort. Especially if it's they've been sick for a while or there's unfortunate circumstances surrounding their daft. It just feels very important to give people that closure right. So you continue your high achievement. There I know you said it was a small school but you were Valedictorian. Yes regardless of how many people were there it was very small. That's still an accomplishment. Yes I worked very hard and I had a great team of friends. We were all guess looking back on it nerds And we spent a lot of our time together studying. We'd have all night. Study parties created a flash card system for the entire class so we could all quiz each other. We were very into learning. You know on on weakens we'd go home to their families homes and visit their families funeral homes and see you know what it was like another area. Typical College weekend. Not at all. Come to find out. So Neil that that's not what most people against in college. So who's funeral home? Are we meeting at this week? Exactly when we'd all pile in a car and go go see how it was done. And he'd walk through their facilities and talk to their parents. Send away that's right. I mean that's that's pretty cool too in college to have a passion for something that much where you just can't get enough of it and learning about it and not everybody gets so that's we were way too career oriented too young but it was. It was also an industry where most people had grown up working so it was sort of the thing that they knew And it was. It was really exciting. Which sounds odd But to be a lot around the that level of interest and experience and being able to understand how differently things work for different communities and religious sects. It was just a fascinating experiential learning opportunity. Yeah so after you earn your degree to practice. There's you'd have to be licensed right. So that is that a separate process. Yeah and it. It's there's a national licensure. You take a national exam For both the arts and the arts and Sciences of being a funeral director as well as some of the other component so it's Split INTO TWO SEGMENTS IN. Its four hours each pretty grueling experience And it's it's the national director exam and then depending on what state you go to. There's a separate state. Licensing and certain states have certain requirements. Four when you can take the test in Florida you have to be Working you have to work for a year prior to being able to take that But you had to declare it when you graduated so I graduated and I think I declared like four or five different states that I thought maybe I would practice it in because I was pretty sure at that point. I wasn't going to come back to tell a Hassi until I realized how difficult it was to get a job in the funeral industry I'd really taken for granted. The fact that Susie took a chance on a young woman and it is changing now. And we've seen a great evolution but largely a male dominated family dominated industry. So when you would send out resumes or inquirer funeral homes. They weren't they weren't interested in you because of being a young woman and lack of connection. You know they really want to be able to vouch for your character and who you are and who you know So I felt lucky I got. I was the only one in my class to get an interview in a very prestigious funeral home in Louisville Kentucky and I sat down with them and we had an interview for an hour and at the end of it he looked any was like well. You know. We're not going to hire you but you'll be all right. You make great eye contact and it was like no. I want this job. I mean I understood this to be an interview. Us like what we wanted to meet you. We like to know who you are and will keep your resume on file so a year went by and I got a phone call from this funeral home and they offered me a job as a secretary that was that was as good as it was going to get and so that was a pretty eye opening experience to think. This isn't as easy to make it into industry as as I thought because I had such powerful role models coming up right and that was that was really tough. Yeah so do you think it was because I understand the guests a little more the relationship and we don't know you you're not from around here you know you don't come from a family that everybody here knows and that they'll trust you more easily. I guess maybe I sort of understand that a little bit more but the other parts. I don't think that that still what's going on. Yeah and this. Wasn't you know this wasn't fifty years ago when you would expect for this it was ten years ago I think it was more gender or age. I think it was both. It's very difficult being both a young woman in an industry that's largely dominated by older men So that was that was difficult. You're up against someone that had done it longer in new better And there because there was physical demands of the job. I think they'd look at someone smaller in stature and think there's no way she can do it and it didn't matter that. I had years of experience on my resume or was the top of my class. You know it was very much what they were looking for Because I wasn't I mean it felt to me like because it wasn't an old man. Yeah so did you come back to Tallahassee to take a job at beavis funeral home or did you come back to Tallahassee in then apply and it worked out from there yeah? I came back to Tallahassee. A little defeated. To be honest I'd exhausted all of my options and three other states And came home because at the time someone said I know rocky Beavis I think I can get you in An and that's unfortunately unfortunately what it takes But I I went in and you know had three copies of my resume. I said it to rocky in advance But he is one of those people that cares not at all about what's on paper in the best way he's more interested in who you are as a person and how you handle yourself and if you would be a good advocate for those families and for his business so I I don't I still don't think he ever but he knew you were the kind of person he could entrust with the families that they care for. Yeah I spent a few hours talking with him. And some of his other funeral directors which at the time were all men So I was one of the first females that they'd hired in a number of years. There's certainly been other females that had worked in the funeral director position but it's interesting coming in and being in my early twenty s Very male dominated industry but they took the time to listen to me Which was nice so it was. It was a good fit for me to be there with them with a firm that was locally owned and operated That had a really good understanding of our community and I would imagine with somebody like rocky that him taking under his wing and if he was with a family and saying this is Elizabeth. You can trust her that that helps bridge that gap until you could premed prove it. Yeah it's a lot of proving it. I mean it was absolutely almost relentless having to prove myself to every family that I sat in front of to say I was worthy of their trust and I. It's not just because I was a young female although sometimes it was that But even just being new to the Industry. There's a level of difficulty In People's trust in your abilities So that was specially in such a stressful time. There's nothing worse than when a family comes into a funeral home. I mean they're having the worst time in their life. So you want to be the most trustworthy person. Most worthy person to take their most loved possession into your care. M- It was not a light responsibility by any stretch of the imagination so it it was very gratifying. Because you wanted to prove yourself. Every day to every family that you are worthy of their loved ones care everybody. I'm very pleased and proud to announce that how I got here is now sponsored by socially loved. Th when I realized that the PODCAST may actually be getting listen to. I wanted to find a partner that would have the same general goals and benefit from reaching our local audience. That's why I'm so excited about connecting you with socially love. He'll h you've probably seen their books around town for years but wait till you see what's coming in April. It's a similar concept. Reinvented in a new and exciting. Way I encourage you to be part of their new facebook. Rude loved by T. L. H. Just search it. Answer a few questions in your in. Join your neighbors including me. Who are already on board in sharing stories about the people and places to make. Tallahassee special check it out today again that socially loved by H on facebook. Thanks again for listening now back to the show so tell me about that. Now you're at Beavis. You're not in school. You're not in apprentice. You're a funeral director. You're responsible for what's happening with these families. Tell me about how that went and you know how would that process was like of of learning your job that way. Yeah and you know. I was lucky because I had learned From the very bottom of the business what. It meant And it was a lot of ensuring the ear there every step of the way that you're very consistent with families so in my mind it was better if he were there at three. Am when the death occurred that you were also there at eight. Am The next morning or whenever they wanted to come in To keep that consistency going but it was. It was an incredible opportunity being in Tallahassee versus being in other communities in larger communities they might have a Jewish funeral home and a Hindu funeral home in a catholic funeral home but in Tallahassee. There was just funeral homes and so we got to experience a lot more of the incredible cultures that exist within our own community And that was that was a really impactful thing to learn from to be able to understand the different rights behind the different religious sects And what it meant to those families and being able to to honor that and follow step-by-step Was a lot of great learning but it was extremely taxing. It said twenty four seven three hundred sixty five days a year job. Especially when you're the new person you worked Beavis for how long Five and a half years. So tell me did you. Had you decided that you were ready for a career change or did the position of the Chamber present itself and that was just something you really wanted to pursue her. What happened there I had a really challenging year. I when you come home and you work in the town that you grew up in everyone that you deal with is your family or a friend of the family or their family is your friends. So you're never dealing with a stranger and that that can be really difficult especially as a young person when fortunately the statistics are that people in that age group pass away In very unfortunate circumstances so I I lost a few people close to me And I was the person that was lucky enough to to take care of them. And that's something that I I will always always treasure but it does make it really difficult. my stepfather passed away unexpectedly Actually on my birthday and so that that was something that really defined my life there was kind of a before and after From that moment of everything where you go through a fog when something like that happens You lose your sense of self. My mother lost her sense of self. She lost her better off. She lost everything that she had ever wanted. and you can't separate yourself from that so it's it's really difficult being in an industry where you are supposed to help people through the worst time in their lives in your having the worst time of your own So I realized that I couldn't be a good funeral director in that circumstance. Anybody's happened during that year last the last year you were beavis dead. Yeah and as much as I tried to think I can pull it together and I can be there for my family. I just started seeing how much I had. I had lost And how much I had lost out of because of that job. He knew there was. They'd always go to the Florida Georgia Football Games and I never made the time to go because I always thought work was more important and you realize when you no longer have that opportunity to go to those family games that works the least important thing and so it was. It was a big perspective shift. That happened but I also wasn't. I wasn't my best and I knew it. I knew that that was an industry that you have to be your best at face on no matter. What right yeah. Yeah but it. It can't be that you see your loved one in every person that comes in and that's that's exactly what was happening so I wasn't able to separate myself from work any longer so I went and talked to the one person that didn't know me professionally had never taken care of anyone in her family And that was Barbara Boone with the chamber with Leadership Tallahassee and. I didn't tell anyone else at the funeral home impact. Suzy was on vacation that I was going to do it but I just said what else should I do? I'd ask the number of other people that I really respected may gave me answers like hospice and and related fields. That I just wanted a clean break. I didn't want to go to another funeral home or or be around that industry for at least a little bit. Because I'd done it for so long at this point I mean really. It was nearly a decade And I was very young for that so I wasn't even sure that I could do anything else. I wasn't sure how those skills would translate into anything But it was. It was a great conversation sitting down with Barbara. I'd spent the year before In leadership tall Hassi as a graduate of class. Thirty two So I got to know a lot about the tallahassee community in a way that I'd taken for granted most of my life and thought fierce so much more out there That I WANNA be a part of and and if anybody would know what I should do wise Barbara would. She is wise. She's very wise so I sat down with her and she said in again a very serious deputies moment that there might be a position open with leadership Tallahassee and what I'd be interested in applying for it and it was like without question I mean absolutely that felt like you know God was shining in that moment to say here is the most extraordinary opportunity. You could be offered outside of a funeral home right. You took a job as a program coordinator with leadership. Tallahassee did that position exist before or was it new they had sort of created it with board direction. They'd had you know the history of Leadership Dalhousie had been going on for thirty two years and they had a number of part time people in positions similar to that but this is an opportunity to do it full time and for those. Who Don't know tell me what leadership tallahassee is all about. It's all about cultivating community servants. So getting a diverse group of people from all different walks of our community together In a flagship program which is leadership Tallahassee. Any spend an entire year going through different parts of the community from healthcare to government to education to arts and culture to science Learning about the different industries and the different buildings and support services for all of these venues. And you network with people that you would otherwise never have a chance to really get to know as well because it's one day a month and it sounds like you're year was very impactful to you in kind of open. Mp opening up your eyes to opportunities you didn't realize existed and buildings that you drive by your entire life and you think well. I know what that is but you have no idea It's incredible the things you take for granted being from a community. The endeavor have the desire to learn until you're forced to learn them so I felt like I got a lot out of that program even though I was born and raised in Tallahassee because it opened up my eyes to what our community really has in it right. Both buildings programs in people people with not intersect with normally absolutely and I think you know some of the coolest things have come from those friends that would have otherwise. Never never been my friend. I was fortunate enough to go through leadership. Tallahassee last year's part of class thirty six and Had A couple of my classmates on the podcast already and people you know in cases. I wouldn't even have known who they were. Otherwise and that that has been a huge blessing and benefit of the program during these years while you're it Leadership Tallahassee. You're also volunteering alive. Which you still hard but some of the places you volunteered were were Tallahassee welcomes you. You were a volunteer catalyst with the night creative community institute known as Casey. Ci a member of Sunset Rotary Fellow rotarian here And he served on the board of Tallahassee Symphony Orchestra. I mean you were you. Were doing a lot of stuff So how did you find time to do all that? While you were obviously involved in a in a busy job as well I slept very little It was just sustainable for some amount of well. It was kind of a trick that I picked up from the funeral days of needing very little sleep and actually it was. It was rocky. That insisted when I moved back to Tallahassee that I get connected and that volunteer I think funeral homes are some of the most community minded and he. He's the one that suggested. I become a rotarian and that was that was a great experience And then without question it's a priority of Barbara to encourage people to serve in that community. So I got to do a lot with her blessing and sort of on leadership. Tallahassee behalf helped build community because if that's one of the things that they say the graduates need to be doing they also give their employees time to do it and the tools to do it so you may not have realized it at the time either but all this volunteering time and being involved is also helping. Lay the groundwork for your next career opportunity You left him February of two thousand nineteen when you were named the CEO of the Tallahassee Downtown Improvement Authority You are one of twenty. Three people who applied for that position obviously is a pretty crowded field and you were one of the younger applicants there again. Honestly what did you think your chances were at the beginning? Have where was your mind that when you first applied for that job you know it was one of those things that again just felt like the right time the right place I went into. Barbara's office The afternoon that the idea kind of was thrown at me Or came to me and said I think I have to do this. And she in her very supportive and wise way CETERA. Are you sure you know that you really want to step into this now? You don't give it a few years and then go for it But as a board member I been on the board for about six months I'd been living downtown for a few years in a Condo with my husband so I really come to love downtown and the assets that were there an just was a very strong compulsion to think I can do this and I can show people how incredible this tiny little corner of our community really is The businesses the restaurants. That are there. But I couldn't tell anyone because it's government in the sunshine so I couldn't tell one of my other board members. Hey this is a crazy idea right. I shouldn't go for this Because you have this kind of conversations with them so instead I created a plan and it ended up being the seventeen page document of exactly how I would do the job and what I thought. The greatest strengths. Weaknesses assets and challenges. We're going to be in that position. And what what we could do to revamp the organization And and when I went in for an interview I presented the board with that plan And we talked through how it would implement it and I've stuck to it. It's been nearly a year later. And then the ten goals I had coming in are still largely the key priorities for the organization. I mean I've spent an incredible amount of time listening to other people and talking to other people that have helped shape. Bat Isn't just coming with a plan and thinking I'm sticking to without paying attention to the world around me. It's it's certainly evolved. But it's it was a scary decision to put my name in for something that was so front facing. That was marginally outside of my comfort zone. You squarely in the spotlight. It did it did. But it's good to challenge yourself if you've got an understanding of something that you're passionate about and you realize you've got the tools to see. It thrill it would have been a disservice to myself if I hadn't taken the chance. I mean the worst thing I could have done would have been to not do it at all. Failure wasn't wasn't the worst part of what could happen. I had a very understanding and supportive boss and husband people in my life that it had been a failure. It just would have been an indication that now wasn't the right time for those of us who've lived in Tallahassee for a while we know that Barbara's caution was because of the current political climate at the Dow former the previous year had been removed because of indictments related to a broader. Fbi investigation. So when you come into that position DID DIDAC GIVE YOU PAUSE. And did you feel like there was a real trust issue? You had to overcome. How did all that work into the job when when you took it because I had been on the board prior to I knew what the situation of the organization was. I knew the challenges that needed to be overcome. There and I knew that reinstalling trust in our organization was paramount So it was obsolete. Barbara understood the challenges that lie ahead and they did and they were there and it was a very very difficult six months of combing through every document just to be able to prove there was no affiliation with the organization Both myself into others and to say actually this is what we do in who we are was a lot of compiling data that Hatton existed before about the businesses. That were downtown. It was kind of rewriting the the mission and the sponsorship goals and sort of meeting with people to say. Here's why you can and should trust this organization. Here's what we do for the community and what we want to do. It was a lot of sort of selling people on a dream But there had been really good people that had come before me Often think that Jay rebel really didn't the credit. He deserved for how much he was able to accomplish in that position at such a young age. So I think we've got precedents like that. And there was another director Maryland Larson That just jed incredible infrastructure improvements in projects within the organization. I mean it's not a sexy thing but she was able to get really good alleyway Maintenance inside edge put up to say WHO's here an organized business owners in a meaningful way got memorial walks place down so you just you look at the the things that the organization had accomplished in where it could go and it was an exciting challenge to be able to move things forward right. I don't think we have time for the full seventeen page plan. I pretty sure Actually we have all the time in the world. You can get you five point but I do want to give you the opportunity to kind of give us the elevator pitch in because downtown. Improvement Authority is not something. Everyone understands so just real quickly. You wouldn't mind just kind of telling us what what it's all about what your job is. Yeah I mean the the downtown improvement authorities essentially a quasi-governmental special taxing district where the businesses therein pay the taxes to see the changes within that district So it's it's six hundred thirty businesses and five hundred residents and Two hundred and fifty buildings that comprise the urban core. It's much smaller than what most people think of as downtown but it has thirty four restaurants and eleven museums and galleries in ten different retail shops. So there's a lot more there But it also has a number of incredible community events and public parks and spaces that make it a really great place for all of our community. Not just the twenty thousand employees. That happen to work there. So it's it's been a great year of sort of building. This re instilled enthusiasm for downtown in what it should be. Do you see some momentum. Being built in downtown as far as excitement in support in kind of I know that over time you know there there've been efforts and people get excited mini kind of Wayne's but you see things moving forward in a way that you're encouraged about at this point without question I think in a way that I almost imagine being able to see how grateful people are enthusiastic. They are about. Let's do this next and let's do this again. And this is great It's a lot to manage because we are released small team but it's a really good team. So it's it's great to be a part of building something bigger With the momentum that we have and I think we'd be silly to not continue that you know that in some cases the the snowball effect is the best thing that could happen For our organization as long as we can keep that momentum going and continue to drive value back to those businesses and the residents to ensure that the downtown is something that they want to be a part of. So you live downtown with your husband. Christopher so tell me how you met and well you already. Did you met in high school? When he took it upon he went rogue and ran against one of your friends for Leon Student Government. He did so but you said you eventually forgave him. So I assume you're paths crossed again at some point. They did And it's a very bitter sweet thing My first week back in Tallahassee on the job at beefs Brooks Rogers was killed by a drunk driver. And that was one of the first families that I Worked WITH AT BEAVIS. I'd known brooks since using kindergarten. So it was. It was a real difficult heartbreaking tragedy that had just occurred and Brooks was also Christopher's best friend So a came into the funeral home to spend some time with Brooks and he hugged me and I went home that night and called my mom and said I think I've gotta quit. I said I think the straps getting to me. I just let Christopher manual hug me. That is something I would never do. And she's like you're right. You're emotionally distraught. Let's reassess in the morning But that was that was just one of those examples of Health are. We've actually come but he wrote me my first. Thank you note because of that And he had very good penmanship and it was a very kind letter. So did you not really like each other in high school. Not at all ruin Mortal Enemies Arch Nemesis really. Yes I have never read the election because it doesn't seem like that big of a deal but maybe high school politics at was. I'm being naive about the right right. It was it was everything at the time And I have I have never felt indifferent about him. went from really disliking him to falling in love. There was nothing in between his absolutely never anything in between so so you questioned everything when you let him hug you did yeah. That was That was sort of a wild who knew that that would be so wild right but it was something that was really life changing Ticket that thank you note from him but it talked about how much both changed. And how kind I was It was a really sweet gesture. in a very difficult time for both of us and and certainly for the Rogers family who we both remain extraordinarily close to which I couldn't be more grateful for But at a at a honorarium for Brooks a year later he was there and it's still hot unit up on my desk and he asked me out and so we've always sort of joked that brooks's are matchmaker and there wasn't anything else in the world would have brought us together We're very grateful to him for that. And I imagine that moment especially just coming back to Tallahassee being face with probably the toughest circumstances almost possible for him to reach out there. I imagine that that really meant a lot. It did because I understood how tough that was for him as well So for him to take a moment to say something nice to someone that had really never been nice to him before was a really big move. So you're saying he wasn't pining for you either all those years not at all not at all glad you work things out. Yeah he's he's a tremendous person One of the people. I think that I admire the most and he pushes me. Probably more than anyone else ever has He's a big dreamer. So that's something that is annoying sometimes but really infectious. Why saw on your. I guess it was on your resume. You called him your chief volunteer. What is that Like it or not. It's a very poorly paid position for him. But he's he's kind of always been my confidante in a lot of things in life But he's also the first person when I get these bright ideas he's rate they're ready to help me implement them so sometimes He ends up spending a lot of our first downtown Kind of talking to different vendors and business owners said helping move coolers from events then Gotcha. He's a great great. You know chief volunteer and you are expecting in addition to your family here soon which I knew. That will date the podcast. At some point I still want to. It's that that's about as a significant event is there is so. I wanted to address that. So first congratulations. Thank you and When you do In March so we'll see how far we get before the podcast airs But we're you know. We made an effort to make downtown or family friendly ourselves where we're bringing a child alert smooth ride final. Two questions shooting were out looking back. What is the one thing or person that changed or altered the trajectory of your life to this point again? I can't pinpoint it to one thing but I I think what has empowered me. The most is the fact that while I still am very young I've worked for about twenty years now and I've only ever had one boss. That was a man Every opportunity that I've been given I've been given by women and largely by women business owners and I think that that's something That is a pretty unique and incredible unity from you know bussing tables. Jimmy's lunch box Getting hired by Jimmy herself to working with but Carry McNeil Coca tour and Charlotte Brand at Florida Outdoor Advertising Association. And then Susie Mazzola Beavis funeral home and Barbara Boone will leadership tallahassee under sue Dick's leadership at the chamber. Pretty strong lineup. It's an incredible lineup. And so I think sometimes I get the sense. Of course I can do it because I look at the women that have come before me and they have really laid the groundwork and left an incredible impression on what the possibilities are in. It's never felt limiting so I think I'm really really lucky in that regard. I've got you know. Sometimes I joke but I've got three MOMS My when my stepfather married my mother that was his fourth marriage and in the the Brady bunch way or families worked out. His two ex wives are now just as close to me as as my own mother. So I've always had these incredibly strong female figures that have shaped limitless possibilities for who I could become never told me I couldn't do this because of who I was and I I learned that myself that I didn't have to be set back in that way but I've had incredible women come before me and I'm so appreciative with a final question. This podcast is named how I got here so weird. You think here will be for you in three to five years from them. I mean I ask myself everyday. How did I get here? It feel very lucky to be where I'm at and I hope you know that the role that I'm in right now is one that I meant for substantial amount of time But I hope to look around and see some of those things You know the exciting thing. Is that three to five years. That is our communities bicentennial. So we get to all reimagined together with our community looks like and work towards those goals that everyone wants to see happen in. Tallahassee. I hope we're all much more confident about where we've come from as a community and we can name five historical facts and five influential people and five celebrities that came from Tallahassee and hopefully will be celebrating with them. How far we've come as a community but I think it's a really exciting thing to look ahead at where we could all be. Because I've never really thought that I got here alone. I think I've had a great group of support Helping push me through so I imagine those people will still be there. Oh the end will will be building a better community together. You'll probably have a three to five year old along for the ride. Yes we don't want only children's L. Hopefully there's you know a growing family. Maybe we'll get a two bedroom condo at that point you. Now you're talking crazy that was Elizabeth Emanuel at the end of our interview. After I stopped recording. It occurred to me to ask one more question. I asked her if she ever thought she would return to the funeral business without hesitation. She said she was sure she would. When the time was right she loved it too much to never do it again and I'm certain that if she does the families she cares for. We'll be grateful. She did. Thanks for listening to the show. You can subscribe at Apple. Podcast spotify or wherever. You get your podcasts. In while you're there please leave us a review. It really does make a difference. Thanks to my amazing staff at fewer communications. Who Pick up the slack. 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February 5, 2019

POLITICO Playbook Audio Briefing

03:20 min | 2 years ago

February 5, 2019

"Good Tuesday morning. I'm Anna Palmer and welcomes your playbook audio briefing sponsor by US chamber of commerce, and I'm Jay Sherman last year. We laid out why we thought the state of the union was a bit worthless. Both on a practical level in specifically because of how Donald Trump governs. He speaks publicly all the time so a speech in the house chamber while longer than most of his missives is not terribly unique as always both sides are in their corners. But this year, we are seeing signed to the state of the union will be less believable than ever before the way. This is teeing up that the message for the state of the union is by partisanship and working across the aisle. But the only partisanship we can see is that members of both parties are increasingly opposed to Trump Republicans have begun speaking out against his foreign policy have snubbed him on his wall and are prepared to block him. If he tries to build it on his own. The most recent example of bipartisanship was when the president ended the shutdown and that case he adopted the Democrats possess. Shen Trump is a president who frequently urges moderation and yet exercises his most extreme instincts. So you might forgive people who are naturally skeptical of the White House's message. The first lady has invited a child named Joshua Trump to the state of the union because quote, he has been bullied in school due to his last name. Of course, this is sad and bullying is awful. But again, it's a bit rich for the Trump White House to make bullying. It's issue do shore crying Chuck lying Hillary dining, dick, polka hottest lying, Ted. Here's what you should watch for any incremental movement on the border wall will the president alter in any way, his position call for infrastructure. Spending would be well received in the chamber anything unu- MCA trade deal. Trump needs to pass and revealing the location of his second summit with Kim Jong Hoon the speech will begin at nine pm. The New York Times is reporting that Trump spent two hours going over his speech with Stephen Miller the times also. Notes that he is expected to do another teleprompter and lectern practice session today because this is one of the few times that he's expected to stick to the script. The times also has an op-ed on Trump looking at how the country appears to be on the right track by many measures. But polls still show that three in five Americans think the country is on the wrong track. The Wall Street Journal also has an editorial about how Trump has to guard against the neck economic slump in order to win reelection in two thousand twenty me. Well, Paul Ryan is hitting the speaking circuit he will speak at the spring conference of the national investment center for seniors housing and care in San Diego yori twenty first and the Wall Street Journal has a piece up on Federal Reserve chairman Jerome Powell having dinner with President Trump last night. The New York Times is the latest in Virginia reporting that Lieutenant governor Justin Fairfax has denounced a sexual assault allegation. Calling. It a smear our colleague James Arkan reports that Senator John Cornyn is bracing for a brutal. Reelection battle in Texas. Melanie's known a has a look at how. Dunkin hundred Chris Collins, and Steve king have basically been excommunicated from the House Republican conference and have little to do on the investigations front. ABC news scoop that New York prosecutors are seeking records from Trump's inaugural committee and CNN reports Paul Manafort will be sentenced March thirteenth subscribe to play book and politico dot com slash playbook.

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The Sunday Service 4-21-19

Double Toasted

2:20:30 hr | 2 years ago

The Sunday Service 4-21-19

"This February history won't be made. Millions will watch as eighty years of unjust stigma is left in the past a product drove good people to the black market will be revealed as one that's creating a new global market, this February what inspired the symbol of counterculture will at long last be seen as just culture. The new normal is coming. Will you be one of the first to see it, MS admit men dot com to watch an exclusive preview? Louis Louis was going on everybody. How you doing? Welcome Sunday service does dot com, and we got up on Sunday cold as we got it up on this. We did jobs. So busy. Trump. Doing well doing well. Title here. Chris. A you. You do Mr. Mark doing? All right. How about yourself? I'm doing fire set of technology messing with it. It kicks your hands about three times a week two to three times only. You don't see the benefit of doubt. God knows about one of my movies today. Say care yours. Maybe you will. Maybe you all the most today. Forget about it. You gotta Wang this. Wayne. Going on. Oh, tell you. I was going to be on the sermon today guide, you know, Easter Sunday, happy stay there. And you know, I have a very special Easter surf everybody. Oh, I've been waiting for the. Oh, yeah. We'll talk about breakthrough mass right? You know yet? No. We got sucked Sundays now. Really wanna get Roth shitting Sunday's who's in the room. It did well for it self. So I was eight I know Corey went to go see it. You know, me man, I'm bright and early man I'm giving I'm giving back to the law. Massa spun out stop going to church, and then he got I'm I'm opposed Sundays. Anyway, I know how to get you in church. I'll just make movies church. Stop going to church, and I still find myself waking up early for religion. Gotcha. You so much. Get a man. Hey, man. He's at this somewhere. Get you one way Joe s. Keep playing it took it took thirty. But I got your back then. Keep playing o- on. You know, what we got game of thrones? After this though. That's what would do. We got the box office gut some Chit chatter for you on top of that had a good weekend. We'll tell you bet with some by a little bit. I was just hearing some things about the weekend that sounded interesting. Oh, really? Oh, yes. From these guys that that ain't that's them. Carlos got his girlfriend drunk. If only drunk she won't go last. Where one last? I saw it at ground zero. Imagine you when you're smoking jacket smoking a cigarette on a cigarette. Older just watching the whole thing. Oh, yeah. I know this is going to be interesting. If bus cigarette holder, you mean, a drumstick. Eating fried chicken. Yeah. Was man. Yeah. I got some wrong kid out there man, which kid. You on top of everything I got now. It's time to talk about this. Boy, you've got a problem. Okay. Don't tell you about him a little bit. Is there any saving him? I think would be that now. Okay. Yeah. Okay. You know, you wanna put it as a home somewhere? Yeah. Okay. Put it in put them in saying island that might help happens. Yeah. Put them in a straitjacket that might help me. He needs one. You'd think I'm craze. I gotta tell you kidding. A little bit. We'll talk about this soon as I do everything else. Right. You know, what happened was? So I use this thing called Evernote to love Evernote. Well, no, love me. Now what? So this took me a little while you ought to get the show stock again, I was here he came into this early. Thank evernote. It's a note taking program. I love it. But every now, and then it gets a little confused when you wanna sink between your phone your, computer. Really? I've never had a problem with that. The only problem I have is it'll say all right. This three devices s you only get to unless you wanna pay for the dog. They right. Don't do that. And I'm like, well, I'm not paying so shit can't handle two devices. You don't need three. Cut computer? All now, here's what happened. I I may Shah saved computer. And then I had all this stuff on my phone inside in the last thing was was my computer decided to take my previous version from phone, which means it just wiped everything Galway's wonder how that works. I mean, I thought the program was smart enough to go. All right. This one is the most recent. So we'll make that the definitive say, you wonder how it works. It. Don't. And it just says, you know, what I just don't feel like doing what you say. Now, are you right now killing our sponsorship with Evernote killing me. Killing killing news time able sponsorship. I mean potential future sponsor, you know, what? Because whenever I say, some you like man, you just don't know how to run a business. You don't you don't run these businesses down. You never know what you don't. But. But I know what I'm doing. They don't. I I did everything I was supposed to do that's them. If you want to spice us because you fuck it up as you want your money. To do. But I like. I like to work when I give you my money. I got it on like one of the ones like the low tier when that you pay and then go make you that's what I was trying to do like, I pay some money for I don't need everything they need for that high tier? I think they did this on purpose. Just to force you into an even higher team just race mush because you go in as the history on here. You can go back and look at older notes that. Well, what you have now. The is broke Nick wrangled pay for shit. So don't even offer that till I don't need had. They talking about that. They one thing. Yeah. They're always trying to entice with all these different features. Oh need any of that take notes? I'm starting. I'm gonna go back to on right should down pen and paper. At least I know that ain't gonna raise. Do you? Remember how to do that? No. But I learned don't know nothing about how to write no more. I tried to write whereas other day just came into scratch. And don't even know how to do that. No more. You know? I only remember two phone numbers. My wife's and yours. That's I have. No, I can't remember anybody else's phone number brother, you better than me. Oh, brother, you better than me. All you. Remember? Yours. I used to know very well, do I start thinking about it? And I was like I might try. I might try to test you out after I don't know that no more. They used to be numbers are from ex girlfriends and all kinds of just gone. I know parts of stuff, I think, I know parts of yours, but I don't know the whole thing. I don't know. My wife's number. Told a straight up. I said you can get mad all you want to know your number. I don't know you. These kids. This phone of completely. I don't know nothing about you. Thanks to technology. Nothing. Damn thing. In don't and I only want to hear from her because she actually I'll tell you. She asked me questions. Oh, yes. She always trying to grill. You what is not even grill me? She's just like me. She asked me things just out of the blue. You know, like, I don't know. What's the capital Cucamonga? You know? And I'm like, I don't know that why why? The photos in your fucking hand. Right. It's in your hand use it. The other day we were talking about fixing something in the house. And she asked me, how do you do this? And I told I I don't know. I don't know. Why not why don't you? Yeah. You're the one who needs. Yeah. You you asking me. I'm that should be broke out. I don't know what you want me to do in. And our tell gives them good. I say, listen, I she got mad to like what a lot of these things. I didn't even get mad because I didn't get attitude watch on intimate shit. You know, one or two for a lot of things to ask me answers can be found right there on the internet tutorials. And everything and she still goes to why don't you know? Toils? You can't argue crazy, man. I tell you any people they grow up with this. And then they don't use it. I don't I don't get it. Because my kids will ask me something. To look it up. You'll look it up. Exactly. To you. Well, sit if you just look on minute. What am I doing? Don't let them do that to you. Wait a minute. What about doing doing this for you got a phone your hand looking at? If you feel me right now looking. Asked me we were watching some stuff on a. Was on vice O G Q they were doing celebrity couples. They ask them questions. And she had to laugh because he asked me she said like ask one couple. They said I'll use three words describe each other. And she looked at me. What would you? What would you do? Be to describe me. And I say without a beat mother fucking crazy. Actually, I think motherfuckers one word. Mother. A craze output a space in between is August. What else do you want to know? That's true. Yeah. I know you see we up stream and right now. Well, we hope I'm running this. I think we are. Yeah. Let me see stream you come up at. Me more. We're going to. You do. Oh. Good to have your here. Let me go ahead and bring up these folks up here. What folks? Let me see are here. Let me see let me see hope Easter is good. So far got bring your up because I was too busy trying to find a note that doesn't exist anymore as me. They will let you wanna find your, sir dollars. Piss me off us ever know watches sinking. Man, make sure that you you shut one on before you sink the other because it'll over h oh shit because it came the Cy would have wants to do over Rachel note. Real quick. It's been all day on his two. That's when you want it. Right. It's not. Not. My grandma. This way. Anyway, we'll do the best. We can. You'll remember don't be winging it today. See we can do what I do with this. I have names of people and characters and things like that. And it's all gone o- gone. So you won't see me miss up a lot of things today. But we'll see what happens here. Let's see. What happens? See we can do. Got a I guess votes up here. Anyway, oh, let me see here. First of all even going further. It was a good thing. I did drop in those wrecks of bring a picture up right here. Gimme second y'all. And I might introduce some people who are actually very important to what we do today. Just give me a second here. They we go and we'd go to move this over hand. And we'll be ready to start the show. Oh, let me see me. See? Okay. All right. We have good. All right. It's gonna be interesting. We'll see how we can make this won't be. Like, I said I'm going off the cuff today got no Evan notes. Cannot help me today. I'll be paid attention. Oh, my own man. Oh, my own foul even video they couldn't get them. The same video plate. Peddler Bill and Georgia, Michael McComb joys. Michael Michael McDonald, it could give him the same video. And they didn't know what to do. They handle budget, right? Right. Just walking. Two different the's. Anyway, let me go ahead and walk in the rest of up in here. And. I'm talking about as I said, the one the only all full Easter spirit today. The Janet Ted eastbound eastbound appear scammed people. Gotcha leagues girl. Yeah. Doing east. What are you saying? What are they? Oh, good to see you today. Happy Easter to you all hope you found all your eggs hoping some of that spirit early today. A hope in that shitty Easter suit that you got. I mean, we talked about that we talked about that a couple of Easters. Yeah. I don't know if they do that anymore. I don't think so. I don't know if this is something that's gone with Tom. That's one reason why I'm glad series is gone. Why? Because you got forced to go to Sears Easter suits portrait's every Sunday every every Easter Sunday, mama. Take me over the Sears are not she take you like the weekend before the Saturday the weekend before and got you the shittiest cheapest suit that they could find. Had you look like Ron burgundy's? True. True. Oh, let me see here. Sears Easter suit. All of y'all. Remember this? I'm gonna put in I'm gonna go go. Actually, I remember getting. Pastel kinda aqua colored leisure suit with. Pearl buttons on it. Leases. Let me see like. I think some like me see here. Let me go seventies with this. This is. Oh, what was that put on the table? Phone is in vibrate mood. Okay. They didn't want to interrupt the show. But a well look at this. Let me see seriously, man. This ain't even got no person is out of it. You had s going to church dressed a net. Looking. Dumbing? Wow. Some serious patterns on that a suit got wallpaper Mantas. Ventriloquist? It does. Momma should've just drew lines on your mouth ahead on your left. Yes. Something like that. Let me see. What of dammit Lisa wouldn't that bad that do dress? Like, oh, wow. African explorer. Like Nigel who doesn't end the Livingston. The waldo. Smashing. Yeah. But look at the the Dan next to him. What is that vest? She's extreme out of Santa Fe, New Mexico. His dad is like a ski lounge. TV? Wasn't that bad? But it was bad, man. It had joy is just look at dews right here. Like like, maybe he's look good on guys. But some reason they just didn't look good on a little kid like my man right here. Crockett until. Right. Right. Cheeses, eight for backdate, even that was bad man, you could fly away with those college. Hoping. A Winston wisdom beat his ass. Slap him off fucking day. Yeah. Look at this off-line with them. Yeah. Man, look at this these green that kid's wearing I had one. That was like a light green very light green. That is crazy because back in the seventies. Nobody nobody hesitate to to dress. They kill up like a point eight. Going to sit right now. Yeah. Man, even back, then it wasn't cool. And I wish I I wish I had green green suit like that. I was dressed up in shit Brown. Would a yellow shirt? And I remember the tie the tab, Brown and powder, blue stripes. And how was it man? Like you. Put imagining. With a last Easter Easter was not kind to kids man, you can win together church and just rip this shit off. And just go. Yeah. But then got got candy chocolate chocolate. Yeah. Eggs. I mean, you never really ate the eggs exit. It was fun to hunt. Forum happens kids, even need those. As man we have so many kids just use those exit throw at people's houses next Easter evening man at knife. Worst neighborhood just going around buck an exit people's houses just colored eggs at people's houses. Yeah. And you can hide eggs and have all the kids look on. And it's always wanted to Ang's that don't get found. Yeah. Just rot. Yeah. Discover till the next month. That was me it starts. Wish I could have been there that little Mr. fairly neckerchiefs. I do too man. I love that too. I mean, that's that. That's gay. But that seventies gate, right? Seventies. Gay like, y'all thought head style. Dave queer on all that. Now, somebody seventy just playing with this. But they didn't they weren't crazy. It wasn't like gay parade. Boy, they wear a handkerchief. Always had these always dress like like movie starlets. Not stars. But start. Yeah. Happy city the hope and get dressed up like when I was a kid. But let me go ahead and welcome the rest of y'all up in here. Yeah. I'm talking about you. I'll tell you what. Martin I use the one. I'm here in church, but y'all got the maze of you'd probably far right now. If you could you always knew the kids that that did he thinks he was fired over the next five days Farnell. The powder from the dime, y'all keep as home this today. You get a pass next week wanna see up in church, but for right now, keep asking home simply pop open. Keyboard type info us k Cooymans g mail dot com. That's KC EMMY ins e at GO dot com. You Email us with any kind of questions comets, compliments insults. Input and advice. Wanna be churches, even like Willett, Email Skype? Contact us anything that the kids using to hold each other Presley. Your whole bringing the spirit to you. 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Well, we know Gertz is crazy. That's not a newsflash. Ain't seeing the kind of crazy that that? He is now like, I we look we saw him craze before when he first showed up right miss when he's scaring. Yeah. When he was scary. And then we kind of let it go and start messing with Toco, Kurtz, fun love. And he's all right. Then it was like. Well. He's a little weird is I can see cracks. No, he's he's mentally ill. Almost cared to be around him. Patrick Girts on though, Patrick let me see if I can even find a picture Patrick hiding too because we didn't just put a pitcher Dexter. Norman Bates, anybody any psychopath. Patrick Gertz, our member Patrick Gerson the show he comes out every now and then. And you know, we hang out. Call me on the weekends. What do you do and let me see areas right here. I don't know don't go there. Oh there he is Mr. Patrick girls. Right. They look and even crazy photo. Look at got a gun nervous ticket. So patrick. He's he's he's he obsesses over things, man. And he won't let it go. To the point where you can't you can't tell him though, Hugh if you tell him on the phone who show up at your house. What he did yesterday? So I was Anglia's hulk. What it what is it? Now, it's three days. So once chicken fried chicken, he's he's obsessed with the fried chicken, this one particular place, which was actually very good place called tumbler twenty two the one on burn it keeps talking about good and he wants to he. So we had it one weekend. And he. He saw the levels of hotness. Right. And I don't know what happened with him. I just. Just. Oh, that's what it was a windy with him. I hadn't had my heartburn medicine about like four or five days, and that's shit. I'm will burn a hole in my taint like. Dripping out the bottom of your pants between between my balls. It was going to be just a melted. Hold with stuff. Just dripping out of. I mean, I hurt so bad. It's like the earliest blood. Feeling just right there to stay in. And I've told them like how much how much it hurt. And I was like. Dingell as hard as we could have and about three days lady like a boss tomes. Good. What what are we going to do taking Tom's together? We're kind of wish shit is then we got Tump state. Going on with you. And he's like no man try that hot chick. Oh why? I spread no desire to try that at all. In fact, I straight tops. And I said I'm glad I didn't try. We gotta do it. Now, we got dude his down. Okay win. That's all it takes to get you to do stuff. Trying to get them up the phone because I was just like, okay. All right, man. Sure. Doing this. Nick said I was like all right. I'm saying everything to get him on the phone because you can't tell them. No, no, no going to do what we do is like. It's like it's like that bones that you just don't hang up for some reason, they got you. You know, like a collect like a collection agencies. But what how much can you pay rain? Right. We can you do this. What you got? You know? I I told him non man, I'm not doing that. And and he showed up at the house anyway that Saturday so we doing this. And I told him I said, no, we're not doing we hang in here at the house. You can hang out hit the house. But we ain't going nowhere. You keep you as I told, you know, when I meant that got so. All right. Hang up. And we hung out that Saturday night. Oh, the sun. It was last Sunday we hung out input. Some reason let me see if I can find for some reason we already played this. We played this already. But he we it was you were there Sebastian was there. For some reason. They're coming back. You know, funny thing is it was here two days ago. I know. We it was late. We kinda drunk and just kind of Leary. And of course, we I don't I don't know why we start talking about serious rights. Right. When we start talking about this, dude right here. Nice to meet you. How about you? Which is. Which they hold. It. Should tell us say was. Got vitamins. He played this shit probably leg about thirty terms 'em. He got on this rewind just kept finding he went deep. He just kept finding lake we we I don't know. How it got started? We it was a simple thing. But we may one comment about serial. And then we mentioned like we started off talking about serious away growing up. And then he just started going deep shit like 'cause I start talking about getaway cereals, cereals that you that your parents got you that you did want right, right, right king. Then though by king vitamin right for some reason because I'll tell you what the dealers what the deal is with king vitamin king vitamin because it was a it was a box with old white man on everybody wanna cut to ten. Ten bucks to telling me some cereal. So that's that's. Want? Sometimes you mom Bod for you. And and and you will you didn't want it. But your mother said about this shit, you eat it, and you you ate this shit. Quicks Harry up get back to the cereal bed. Not now back to Iraq. You want to get back to the car to Shigeru stuff? So you you hear it up eight dick king vitamin, but no by probably fine. Just in your mind. It wasn't keen. It was all white master. Remember it being a not very sweet captain crunch. That's what it was to like, you know, like vitamins where king sugar. Key. Where's the Duke of diabetes? King. Oh, did it even have good prizes in it. No, no prize. No sugar. No prizes next while. Did I eat? Cardboard this. But he he got the king vitamin I'll tell them about those kind of serious keen vitamin and boom he up says an over both those man, and he started looking at videos about caboose between the night. It was king vitamin and caboodle man until I find as I said, the king is telling you leaders house now. Walk a boom, you get out my get out. I just thought that you've got to go. It's three thirty in the morning on heard this jingle about thirty times. Yeah. The fuck out and he loved. Came back yesterday. So we. We do this chicken man 'cause we. Chris I was streaming. And we in the in the moment, stop streaming. I know he's downstairs led him in a moment stream. He just looked at the dose of prize. Fuck. The fuck. Jesus we doing this chicken? Fuck let you in must've. It's like my wife walked through donate isn't a dog. Hello. He's like, Dracula charmed or. Through the glass. Yeah. He came in. And I sit in my wife chicken, I wanna go who's lacy wanna do. All right. All right, man. But the whole night. Did you get the hot? I did. Did you did you cook your your mouth and throat with with candle wax verse? I have been taking see I had it will it could have been a good day. Everything was going to smoke that I had taken my my heartburn medicine on the regular. So when I got an eat that chicken. I took a massive shift today, burn, right? But it didn't hurt my stomach. Okay. And I'll even tell you this for me. It was you know, how you say so high you can't taste the food. I could taste the food man in good. It was an Accenture rated it will okay. Two things happen at ruin all night. He was on the king vitamin every n everything had, you know, go good with that some canine. Hey, man, on the way to get that chicken some canine, the Dow Mojo free the fuck out. And you you you saw. No, no, you are in the car. You were in the car with me mode, but multiple freaked out what will be parked and think you free taking. But we stopped the car multo stout. Even the back seat. He was narrated his still mode. You'll having a breakdown multiple slowdown. Because multiple slowdown. Like Jesus Christ. Everything was in king was king vitamin we will side which I wanna listen to. I don't know Kim vitamin. Okay. He's say I wanna side. I live in even Chris came in. He said yori say, yeah, I'm I'm good. How about you? My came break. Kim vitamin. I can't take it. No today. I saw the song would will actually that's that's the other thing that that fucking jingle was sticking your head, man. I talked about how bad it was. How bad is you? Sure have been planted a lot on two different shows. They no. Yeah. Three at this point. No, I guess it is to we played it on Tuesday. No threes coming. No that they want to create a jingle sticking people's here and make it the worst jingle L balls. It has it has like no note has no lyrics. There's no builder just launches king. As everything you need. You have breakfast with the key get king vitamins here. Him man man with bugs look just like that. There's nothing appetizing about that didn't they switch him out. When it cartoon character at some point. This is not selling. Why don't kid by serial gone, all the fucking creepy? White dude on old creepy white man a table cloth. Look. Anyway, no king looking. But. He takes by eagles. Oh god. See you two. That's not a cute to play it. He's done to be like Peter Griffin. With that bird is the word. King by incurring try on your friend. Good. All right. You don't want to face like if you play one more clip Gertz is just going to appear here. King. Shit. Where what have we? Make home deliveries. I'm just on my way to breakfast. Will you join me? The castle. Where we do. Here. We go. Breakfast. Hits. Thing. I can do not just stick. My dick in a box. Cooking. Running. Out of here. Yeah. That was all night long. The other thing that got me was like well well in a way to came in Gertz, we did it and it was good. And I was like in didn't hurt we need not speak of this. We've done it. Let's leave this in the past in the waiter. You know, we got something actually hotter than special man you in. He and of course. Do. In front. We got. Fuck about what do you have? It's hotter. King vitamin. Man do. Some call the I don't know that John Henry assumption. Something named after a bartender. Who's, you know, this ain't nothing? I need some hotter. So you got some hot on the secret menu in pantley, we try and that one day. Called the Daniel Webster or something. But okay, named after like, the bartender that work there gives a fuck. He did. Apparently, he's on a secret menu. And then I wrote a special recipe named after a bartender. It only six of us know. Who doesn't even existed? Not sure if that was real name, but it's the one we could remember this guy even went on like like, I remember one time those got to ask. Setup. You've done enough damage there. We also that's not enough for you. We have shot of acid clerk, you can watch it down. Girds? This is not normal. I'm telling you this right now. Want to get onto wall? You'll suck on these hot coals. Challenge. He'll do it and drag me into it too. Gertz won't be satisfied till he kills him. So. Oy. Insane. Just insane in. And we'll do it would not let it go. Man. I hope that you that photo at his funeral. Converted about twenty. That'd be hilarious. Mugshot somebody going to like. You think you caught me? The indisciple right thing. Patrick Gertz, aka the hot chicken killer. Oh, dude, man, dude right here, and then got his girl over there. Katainen comes all the way from his Stony ah to have a good time when it happens, but she did that to nobody. Just watch out for her. Don't get drunk alcohol mix high because you drank it, and she'll just up she she has one drink once. You ought Margarita. Simple margarita. Let has and she'd drink that. And just at a couple of sips. You just Sydney even looked you'll Cajun. I don't know if I could finish this don't cause you already looking at. A little crazy right now. And of course, every time he ends up. She ends up with this boy over here at the house. You know, get a little drink a little something. And she just last night. I saw the darkness shadow. Just don't. Don't. She can see. Lean. That's like you get out of here. Fucking eastern European passed out of. Gertz up and he. But then I want to let you know, then, you know. He got all the king vitamin outta system. And we ate the chicken and twelve thirty rolled around. I was like well. Well, I guess we had a good time that I didn't we boy it was a full night. Guess guess we'll call it. He's like, oh, wait a minute. It's levels with this, man. And this is the one where I'm actually I had this is why I had to like, okay? I was mad when you made me watch this. But now. I'm fascinated Tuesday. Oh, you always do this same cycle. I'm no, man. But the, but really seem to I gotta do this unless we got something else on Tuesday. There's mean as going around, and it's been going around. And I thought it was from some taint girl. Kangaroo looking up in the sky and just laughing maniacally, and I and somebody popped up in the chat a few times. Okay. Where's this from and? And gertz. Finally, he came like, oh, you don't know. Do you remember movie call warriors of virtue? Yeah. You do have you seen it? No. But I remember when it came out. I do not remember this at all. We were doing. I remember we've been doing the access the cable access show at the time where we it was that long ago. It was nine thousand nine hundred maybe doing with me at that time misses me, and Tony it was nineteen Ninety-seven. Okay. Oh, trying to think I think I started with you in ninety s early ninety seven or maybe even ninety six that was one the first ones where they told him. You ain't get more screening for this. This movie blew my mind. To hang with us. You gotta being the she'd one one ordinary kid will be transported to an extraordinary world beyond the boundaries. Nation. No. The right response. What the fuck? Turn around and run. This is this. I'm not gonna say anything because I'm gonna save it up. Whatever I have to say about this. I had to go in on this, man. And then talk about this every time I say, oh, this is the most insane thing I've ever seen then something else or is Birch pops up something else. Pops up the topic serve. This is a movie like unlike anything I have ever seen before I've always heard that about it. It'd be whatever you heard probably true. I have nothing to say right now, whatever I have to say we'll beat for when I can go in deep on this. Because I was amazed at what I'd seen. You would you have never seen a movie like this before and you will never see one like this ever again. Reasons, but this is truly the most insane thing I've ever seen, and I had to go and explain of reason for reason why now was this trying to capitalize on the teenage mutant ninja turtles craze. What? Power rangers. Yeah. Oh, I did tell while we watching the last night. I told a Gertz I did say I said this is like the worst mix powering tart in teenage mutant ninja turtles. It's it's with no explanation as to how those things came together. Okay. And what you see from that point on. I proudly on Tuesday. We got nothing else to do. This Ray hit because I just this is does to you may drowsy crazy last night that I was looking up shit about war is virtually. What does it mean? Yeah. This is. Yeah. I I want to say so much, but I I have to wait. I have to we. Because I you know, I don't want because once I start. I'm not gonna stop. Sure. Yeah. I know how city. He finally got me Gertie pushed mass. Two o'clock in the morning watching this. But you need to help him. No. You want me to help you? People. Listen to you. No, he don't some listen. And the and the ones who don't wanna listen, just devoid me. Yeah. Maybe you could try with him. Say. You gotta stop you know, what you leak or the fuck. Maybe let's say all grown, man. Why did he tell me? He feels that with. There's been a crazy weekend. Canard in Koi. Guman at the house on Friday. Really? Yeah. And they were they spend our argon about us the movie. And that was actually fascinating takes. That'd be they will go neither one of the gift of that. And it was it was fascinating. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Read I mean, I sat and just drank and just watch them like a tennis match. It's going back and forth. It was they. I mean, those are two smart dues, man. They are smart dudes. And and quite good. When is especially good at knowing how to control his emotions in an argument. So he can he can let you get yours out and go like, yeah. But then there's this this is this you can't you can't Riley them. And then when he needs it. He knows how to three is passionate and there. Oh, yeah. But. Cannot almost Albro. Chorus passionate core gets anytime. Oh, listen. It's like not seeing it like, you can't do this and this, and this means that in Kanawha beg in because he's always Mila with tickle. You. Don't get loud. I think it's high. Hi. Yeah. But you'd think about this. The core. Wow. So people going on you. Fascinating. 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And I'm there as I told Martin stopped going to church when I was eighteen years old and God finally figured out a way to get out of bed on Sundays for religion got mid took us some time to find me if it's not a faith based movie, it's Tyler Perry movie. It's a time. That's that's the same thing you go to church and both of them guide me. So I'm there, and but you fan with these things I'll tell you man, I go see these movies in like to be surprised. I don't wanna go in just make fun of these films often in that. I'm there to review not to mock would open mind, even if I don't agree with everything that I see there and this. The movie we're talking about here breakthrough. It actually could be something that has an interest outside of. Religious tone and message because of what this is about this racial troops store. Of a kid name, John Smith. It's not real. Smith really was such generic name. He had to kill himself. People take no. Because that's what he'd do. This is just miss Smith went out with two of his friends. Awesome thin ice and what they're messing around him. Some some God told me he said you get like, oh fuck you all. Right after he said that spoofs. Gold. Another all three of them filled through. But he was the only one that they couldn't get out of the frozen water. Now, what happened here is that when he's the most most ethnic one. So I feel like he's the one I didn't try to that hard with going to miss him. Leapt on his head. Trump's america. From what even around at the time. This is twenty fifteen January twenty fifteen so he's under the ice. He's there for fifteen minutes before any kind of rescue people come out with the fire department anyone. So when they get there. Yeah. Hey, got frozen. Mexican. Ain't nothing gonna help him. But. There was still something there. You know, they do their diligence. They had to take him to the hospital had to do that. Right. When they were about to pronounce him dead. It was it was. Listen to the story was through the power prayer was mother and his mother just being by side that is considered to be the thing that brought him back from the dead. Oh. Now, you've heard the story. Yeah. I did. And then after it's he's able to touch people and see the the future with them. Stephen King wrote is called the dead zone. No. How close Martin? I really wouldn't preach preach that you making fun of Lou and save or what I'm trying to talk about this come on sound like he's ripping on Stephen. But you tell me. East martin? I really would appreciate being respected and not make a mockery out of this. Okay. Is boy came back from the dead and only did he come back from the dead. But a lot of people say that you know, what? I wasn't in that water. I didn't almost die. But. He also influenced me to change my life better. He brought me metaphorically back from the day. Dahlie, you wonder what hey, let's go ahead and take a look at the trailer for breakthrough. I will be back with my review. Rise and shine. This is ready in ten minutes. And don't make me back up there. This is our town. It's a close knit community kind of place where everyone knows everyone. I missed girls. And we're always there for each other. You guys have onto the rest of the basketball game this duping up around here. This kid is so lit. Extra mom tomorrow pick you up. Dre anything stupid. Got mice. Tissue get off of it. Olympic, sir. Oh, this is how much more can we make him trying to swim team? Keep talking. Me he's been underwater for more than fifteen minutes. It's going to be a recovery risk. Luke cage. He's done everything medically possible. There's nothing more with Jim. Who is? Speared Tuesday must. A fourteen year old save Charles boy spent fifteen minutes trapped underwater is continuing to fight for his life. You don't know my son? He is a fighter be. To be just let God. My pride and joy crack can't wait to see those baskets and run down again. Smith family asked for one thing. Please pray for John. In the water that day. I was ready to give up within his voice telling me back either on nuts or gods talking. But I don't believe in God. I believe maybe that only goes to five something like this. On your pastor. I'm supposed to walk alongside refers longs. It. Did you see the face with pays going viral? Call me. We're not gonna get for this one. Who have for me? From. No. I want to say first of all I don't I don't know this kid John Smith, the subject of this movie right here. I don't know anything about him. I don't know how accurate the depiction of him in the movie is, but I will tell you the movie version of him. I couldn't wait for his asphalt that. When he felt that I cheered. Up there guys counting the minutes when he will find out is. I like I can't wait cause in the movie. The movie version of John is a bitch. John John Smith, the movie version, I don't know what this kid is like a real life. But the movie version of John just pull the disrespect just walking around because he's having a hard time. You know, which when I say hard time. Oh adopted. Okay. I okay kids has to be adopted because he didn't come from either one of those. No, no, he's you know, he's a. And you know, what here's don't don't get me wrong. I get it. You know because he's at that age. Even no matter how how much kid has been loved. He always going to have that question. You know, about his real, mom computing won't, you know, I get it. And plus in when it gets really rough because I've gone through this where the, you know, the classes required to have a family tree. And you gotta get up until everybody while the treated wants you. Is hard and understand John within. Smith. Join us. This morning truck you I'm ready to do. My report. Okay. So I'm John Smith. Most of enormous opted. I come from a small town in Guatemala Colson. Sorry. I don't know who my biological mother is but. Just that she didn't want me. Joyce Brian Smith adopted me when I was nine months old. They went down there on a mission strip, and they ended up coming home with me. Probably because I'm so cute. No. But yeah. Tells them jokes. That's that is Marcel Ruis we actually plays John Smith, and you know in east too good 'cause you. You don't like the kid even when he's talking about him doctor because. Even though his real mom didn't want to be probably in the probably was better off of that. Sure. Because well, why the Molly mom and dad and want them white mom and dad had given him everything they giving him a nice home. They love on him. They let him get away with talking back. Sometimes. At school. He's got friends. He's like, he's an outcast. They love. They love John. What seems jars jars great at basketball coach loves the kids all think that he says, I'm cute like, you know, kids are whispering. Yeah. Yeah. Sit him down and say, okay. What is still got to even though he has all this. He's still I would I would take wine, but he just calmly. You know, every dolt is trying to John what's going on. You know, parents they call with John John gets away with things that even white kids get slapped for all of a sudden out of out of these loving parents who played by Josh Lucas in Chrissy Mets of even then. Just like, oh, it's just a it's just a thing. Like that part where he's talking about what they say don't do some stupid. He's like, hey, hey, mom and dad, I love you do anything stupid. No, they dub that in. No, he looks. He looks at his dad, and you're like, okay, Brian, whatever, you know, that dad Bryant in even going. And even mom's like, he's like, oh, we need to back off. It's the phase have some space. They give in this kid everything he wants if there's one reason why I believe in this movie would make me believe in God is because only guy would look at this. And actually do that to a kid that deserves it was almost like God was looking at John got some for your. Keep it fucking around. Keep walking keep walking right there. And by the time the move is done. John humble that the fuck. John mail. No, man, your, sir. No, sir. Thank you. Thanks, dad. Gaza. Got 'em. Right. Keep playing mix drop you as lava keep playing. Kate couldn't stand this kid man at the moves had Mickey the opposite. I'm supposed to care. We'll we'll. Oh, yeah. Leaves as an another fifteen minutes. He ain't done yet. The hill. John. But outside of that what you probably wondering how much the religious part plays in. This is a faith based Bill and for good reason that criticized for being sermons in for having too much of an agenda coming in in putting too much of a religious slant on things to the point where you just this corny, and they thought that you have anything against religion. Faith-based film. I mean, that's their movie. But even even some faith people would be like man come. I get it. I go to church there's that there's there's being overbearing and having the cheapest of TV production values there is that. And as mentioned, you know, this is a faith based movie you're going to get that in this. When like when you when the when the movie starts, man. Three minutes in you, praying about please. Can this be over? Six minutes in you, saying the pledge of allegiance because you got the American to American God, ten minutes you in church, not in a sermon. But you they have a dramatic scene in church where everybody's book reading club in church. So big oh play that heavy that's going to be there. What you want to know about is the stuff that they just go broad with just what did they just make up, you know, and this movie too where they forced God. And here to really make this narrative like mixing like it's a true miracle from the man himself. Well. There's some things that are accurate, and there are some things where. They just made shit up. There's no other way to say that I will give them credit here. You have to read up on the movie before you go in and try to criticize heavily again. I didn't look at this role of Moslem God. And do that. I want to look at it. And see what was accurate and what wasn't. Yeah. Turns out that mom praying Justice Smith is is his mom name of mom. Joyce smith. I'm sorry. Joy turns out that mom praying next to John actually was something that was that that really happened. Speared Tuesday must. Shit. It worked. Really? I was just taking a guess. And if I could hit the number next. See but by six. Loser. But you still have John. John echoes money. We think about taking back man turns out that her praying over him caused a his post to comeback now. Of course, you can say either way, I don't wanna argue it it, you know, if that's what if that's if that's what you know Joyce believes and it worked so be it. You could argue that she just responded to our he just respond to her voice. There's no way to prove that that wouldn't have happened. Whether she was there, not exactly exactly. So I'm not going to argue where the guy had a hand in this. You know, that's that really worked for you. Then isn't I don't even wanna ruin that moment for you. Great. That's fine. But then we get to with ages. I mean, this is a this is a religious faith based filming y'all sending y'all's just lying. Lying that part with the with the Mike Colter. Yeah. My culture plays a. Tummy shy real Sean beside that's the size the size shine. What you call me unless your name, right? Yes. Tommy, sean. Yeah. When the when he goes out to save the kid. In the movie, they say that he heard a voice a mysterious voice. I was telling him to go forward in the war that day. I was ready to give his voice telling me back around nuts. Her goodstuff put. I don't believe in. God. Let me fucking nuts or maybe it was his dispatch on the radio. Keep going save that kids. Giving up. We'll see. No, that's what he thought. He thought that that all of that what you're saying? He thought somebody was on shore yelling at him. He thought maybe somebody I had on those telling me to go and everybody list just fucking. When we all yell at me in my say, Tommy. This is God keep going. No. Crazy. Not good for you. Fuck with him at home. Tommy, this is gone. Did you take out the trash? This is God. We know you're looking at porn, right, man. Nah, man. This is a. There's an article that I went to look at about this. And they say that. All right. It may be if you don't wanna lie. It's an exaggeration. This is the history history. A Hollywood history versus Hollywood oh did John's rescue Tommy shine really here of voice when he was in the water. Tell him to keep searching. They say this is somewhat dramatic dramatic dramatizing the movie in the possible book joy Smith mentions that something and Tommy shine spirit prompted almost pushed him to move in that direction, so in that's her point of view. No voice of guy was telling them to do that. You know, if anything he says, I okay. Yeah. She says I was inclined to keep going because something was pushing me sure which just beat like his humanity the doing it too. But again, I don't know. But it definitely wasn't God. Like, hey negro. Doing. Hey stupid. Don't have to. It isn't God fucking. No, no. And then there things in there that yeah, they're parts and here where they do. Turn something that's really corny. There's a part where all of Josh's schools and people who know John, Josh. But John all people John classmates, some some parents in the community and whatnot they come out to hope vigil outside of his hospital window, and that's moving man is actually really cool to see them support a of John within of course, one of one black girl gets the spirit. John. We hope you live in the invisible Bank kicks in. Of they all joining the chorus. Everybody starts. They a church choir music, musical instruments that are not out there. They all concert at this point. Notice like, okay. Get going got kicked it a little bit. And brought in the musical accompany. Mary. Know, it was like, okay, come. All. Right. Come on. And this is at a moment with things actually gone. Well. Why not doing this? You didn't need this. They could somebody could have sing amazing grace acapella, and why would that would have been fine. We're right. Right. Right. Right. And have to have it got them gospel sexually. Right. Working. That's. Believe in God. But the the thing that works with the movie. Is one this the film it it? It helps to have a budget. Look these movies that can be made for like a million less and make ten million. That's great business. I'm not going say don't do that. If you can get by with that, that's fine. But it's just a relief to go and see that's what I noticed about. Like this looks much better than the other ones you've been reviewing. Plus, it's got several known actors in here. It's I'm shocked to see in this thing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. It's the relief to watch a faith based movie that doesn't like it was shot on the set of Mexican soap opera shot like a local commercial or something as such a relief to see in. I got I gotta get into the movies corner for something else. This. If if I say nothing else nice about this Phil which I probably will. But if I don't I gotta commended for this one thing that is getting right with other movies. These days are getting absolutely wrong to the point in making me mad. Okay. Thank you is another reason, this might make me believe in God. It finally feels like it's the real school. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Forget teachers doing that job. There are dolts in the Bill. I know it's come down. All I want. Now, it's just mid realistic. Just have some adults in the building. Someway, can just see the Janada, you know, an adult. Oh, but the teachers are doing their jobs. The teachers are teaching the breaking up fights before they even start good for the Bullock and actually kill somebody the kids the kids are actually there. This look this ain't movie school like other movies, where in movie movie movie school is like pre K to seniors in high school. They all go to. This feels like a middle school. All these kids hanging out together. They feel like real kids. Josh is not picked on fake. One do tries to build a Justin Justice deck economy. Josh done one John is not picked on by anybody. In fact, one bullet tries to start somewhere. John and John like what? What? Have a little little word back and forth in actual dog comes in and says boys, whoever raise the next hand beat the fuck out. He's like I'm going to bench you punishment? Yeah. This is say what you will man. But this this this out of this movie, this based movie, this is the most realistic depiction of school that net got them animated penguin movie. Okay. A cartoon penguin moving faith-based film, getting a gin school down realistically. Like, no other movie out this, oh, the bullies aren't running over cripple kids with their cars. No. If they know there's somebody stops them before they get a chance to kill each other. As an actual dull here before this shit, turns hunger games. Kid. There's no reason. Thank god. I didn't think anybody was capable of doing this feel. But it's also the cast man you mentioned the cast here. Yeah. I'm seeing Josh Lucas and Tofa, grace and Guinness Hayes breath, and it's funny too. Because I love the cast, and I'm almost hasn't say that because I feel like somebody will try to pull reverse racism of me 'cause they black washing here. They you have Dennis Hays bird. Yeah. Dennis Hays bird is Dr Garrett. Dr Jeremy Garrett, I'll tell you Lou Katya, Michael to he he's Tommy shine almost ain't they cast the black man just to fit that name. Right. Because that do like the real people actually white, man. It is. On late show, some some dark and who's related like they'd even tried to meet them halfway with biracial rate. Right. Wayne black. They say your name would like Tommy son, man. The blank. I think they chose dinners. Hey, but just to make you believe you good hands. This kid is fucked. The two actual guys. Doctor and Tommy shine would love to be sitting next to them at the premiere. Come on. Slowly hit my camera. Stamp. I think this would duck gear like watching the movie. Both. I'm looking at this. Tommy sally. We. That's not me. You told me George Clooney. I may laugh to do really. Come. We were talking about new played around. Caging cancel he wouldn't have got my cult. Philip Michael, Tom. Yeah. Tommy, say better get Kevin Hart. Why does that? Lisa. We got you wanna talk tall dark handsome. Extra for metallic payer mood. On the black one and black actors like even black people. Like this guy. In the cast is really good, man. Told from grace grace. He plays the past impasse. Jason forgot to pass a day for the last night. But but he plays him because he's so likable, man. Well, the thing is for grace can be very likable, but he the place somebody who's kind of never she and likable or he plays somebody who's who's an asshole who comes off his Weasley. And you just you just he's just irritating. Not right. He, you know, he's a saying this looks like he's likable role. No, this is actually one of the better roles that I've seen you know, because he's such a likable guy. And it's hard not to like him. Because he he's that that that that that hipster pastor he wants to get all the kids to like him. He t t changes church into Coachella. So they got like son in that like him. He's a bad like he's up there. Some shutting Taylor's. A flower shirt too skinny jeez. Like ain't got no suit. And he's like he don't he don't stand behind like a pooping like he gets kinda kneels down hits. His what's yes. Let's read these days. So, hey, who watches the bachelor? Anybody wants to wrap let me know. Hit me up on my space. But you want to go to the church because there's a bad plan. He brought him. His Reverend is is mostly white church except for a little while. But. Is because one of the things movie doesn't try to hide on some of these people racist. And they'll do they always say like they bring. When the when the like, the alternative white band is playing like, you know. He's a dose like they all do that Christian dance. You know, they wave inside. But, but then yo yo for God started skating when the rapper comes the black rapid the whole church like who's this nigger they start getting scared master looking man. And they don't say like mom just kind of just raised on hymns. It's like you raised on white. 'cause you will you have a good time. When that band was playing may come with these Lacson everybody scared. I just noticed the trailer when she was saying, we're a tight knit community. And whatever I hear those words somebody's saying it, and they're proud of it. I get a little skeeve. I'm like, I feel like this code for something. Yeah. Yeah. You know? It's a, but they don't play it up too much. But you know, I like I said man, you know, they really wanna make this feel good. So you know, it's a good. I mean, he's I like his character a lot in the Phil. In the. Like the way they they they did some of the casting here while you know, they they they they black blackwash some things, you know, some things with good casting. Marcel Ruez, you know, he's he is he's an actor. So he's a more handsome version of the real John's of real John John Smith, but it's not too far off, man. You know, they're Brown. Yeah. You may be a racist. But I looked at him like it was still they didn't try to. The kids are bad looking either, you know, so that helps but at least they didn't go too far off. Josh Lucas is good in the movie as the dad, and I'll talk about him in a minute. But the real person who selling this is Chrissie Mets, Chrissy mess that you know, from this is us, I've unwashed the show. Great good. Her movie, man, really, she's the one that's spends a lot of time just trying to convince people that, you know, John's don't make it because it's so many people just in the bag and just don't care because you could hear like parents there, and they bring their kids, and like a look on the what you crying, you might you might as well get used to this book on ain't coming back this. I don't know why they keep whispering to somebody needs to know that just that he's not coming back. You know, John is gone. We hate seeing her like this. And so you really get caught up in her believing that, you know, John's gonna make you. You you really root for both her and John. That's the good thing about it you root for John to make. Okay, John is fighting so hard, man. You know, he's in a coma for seventy two hours. And she's just there by his side, the whole time, and you can't I mean when you see that there's a mother's love, man. Even in even even even needs something more that she's the adopted mom, you, you know, you just really just moved by this painful to watch goal through this. It have to convince everybody including doctors that no my son. I know he's going to make it. He's responded to me. I don't believe jobless of the night. If you have family friends that you want to call to come to see John. Golly. Close the folder on them too. I've been told you're the best doctor Garrett. Will maybe. He's earning. A little folder. Moments starts. Oh, wait a minute hold. Oh, tell me more about Hungary. From an expert field male pill. You're the best. World renowned and. It was misinformed. No. I know. My job is a fighter. I need doesn't give up. When each you took. Oh and be the best for Joel. Nothing less. Can you just let God to the rest? I'm trying to put a loss. No, you're the best. Maybe I am. Maybe I'm not I you know, who's to say, but I'm pretty good. Quick. I'm a remember that I find myself in that situation. Just played it at ego again. The lesson is dead. I got other shit. Best I suppose. Some people say it's arguable by not by mini. He got a brain boy back, but do some Frankenstein's. Suppose God is better. Even that's questionable. On a good day. Could be me. Quick. Chrissy Mets though, man she worked his ass. Shit. I don't know how to reputation, but she's she's one of the things we love about a casting is that. They didn't try to listen. I'm not saying anything bad. I'm happy about this. She is known as being a plus size active. Wait acting are actress, and they didn't try to slim down and get somebody who was skinny to play this role, which, you know, closer bigger than the actual mom. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Joyce Smith and kind of close. Yeah. You pull out Pat out and see the full, but I'm not even making fun. I think that's great. Because you know, I just got through seeing a movie where the it was that Boertien movie and the actual woman as being portrayed in the movie, she she is not a skinny actress. But they they found us can't ask a woman to play Herat because they think that's what audience was wanna see. Right. Well, it's what a lot of regular people. Wanna see? I'm just wondering if the real joy Smith was like what if they're gonna get Sandra Bullock to place. I'm just going to be surprised. Well, the person where they have the same hair color. Komo maybe Julianna, Margaret Lee. And I was led. They didn't do that. They didn't try to you know, they they gave the trying to give funny overweight. The husband, you know. Josh Lucas is the husband and handsome guy. You even think about it. When you watch the movie how how well they worked together the drummer really plays. Well, when the drama is actually left alone to look as of those always liked. I was sorry. He kinda disappeared. Yeah. Yeah. It was two man. You know, y'all have seen Josh Lucas before see if I can find a picture up and Josh Lucas at one time people talking about this guy being captain America. Yeah. I thought he would have been good. Although I don't know if he's tolerant, but yeah, he does kind of like Chris Evans in a way he was Chris Evans before Chris, right? They just waited too long the movies even got the captain America beard. Everything. Just hold on the shield. Could have been me should have been me. Yeah. You see them together? Man. You don't think about oh. You know, this handsome, go overweight this woman. That's not realistic is like, you don't think about that. Man. They actually very well together in a movie again because the both morning over John. Which is like I say, the the hardest filled. The thing that really pulls you in. A like when the movie is not. Is not being too heavy with the faith based film. But like I said sometimes you can just pull back and let that play on naturally jer. Because there's so many things that they do well in this film. What I talk about love Chris Mets. I love that. She starts to get people's nerves and a woman who's mourning. But when she starts excuse me, it's she's under so much pressure getting sleep. She just starts getting a little kind of push around people. I mean, these doctors there to do their job. Yeah. And but she doesn't understand a kid. He doesn't wanna hear anything bad going on. She doesn't want this treated like a regular, you know, a patient. She doesn't want him called patients. You want him called by wasn't called John. And she's going make sure that everybody on staff does that like she's like she's running the hospital, you all speak life over John. Do I make myself clear this myth? We really didn't mean to actually do. I make myself clear. Shooters. Put. We'll put you right in next to his funding. But they addressed that in the movie. Okay. The address that they talk about how she's being there's even apart near the near the review this even a part in the in the in the movie where they only have they don't have any answers for religion. There's an adult. I'm not gonna ruin too much with adult that ask that has John. This woman says John, you know, why why you what God choose you. And not me when I had somebody that I was praying for. In John street. In terms. What? So guy likes me better. I'll tell you. Yeah. I didn't meet him. When I went under, you know. I just I just he just brought me back. Okay. So the real John Smith he hasn't come back with all kinds of visions of seeing God. Or he's up proselytizing. I don't know if he's doing that. But they have said that what he wants to do is. They said, you know, he's into sports in that led. And he wants to be a pastor. Does it, you know? I mean, they didn't say too much about it. He's not talking about, you know, God isn't hanging out with me every night. You know, he's told you told me I'm better than you. You know, kind of stuff not it's not like that man. It's it's a there's a because they have such a good cast. And because they have a very compelling story a lot of this works. But then a lot of it again comes in. And they in his just undermined by the things that they don't need to do. You can put them messaging in even people who aren't religious affairs. You know, the people who aren't believers faithful people they'll still be able to deal with. I mean know what kind of movie this is it's a little heavy hand in those areas. When athlete does not need to be. They have a story that really speaks for itself. But again, you know. I know it's not I'm not the target audience. Maybe it works better for some other people out there. But I give it average rental. Just bill. You know, it's really that said it is one of the better faith-based movies. I've seen there, you know, for a lot of reasons on the production side, and for a lot of reasons that go with the writing when it doesn't get in the way of itself out of curiosity, which one did you like better this or I can only imagine. It's a good question. Man. I'm thinking my like both the same. But for different reasons. Yeah, I think because they both. They both head. I can only imagine really had that a rise to fame story near that works again when it gets kind of too heavy with religious stuff that might get in the way, but it still works. This has a story of this kid by boys life in that works kind of like the way, you know, in different way, kind of like the way it did. That's a great question, by the way, it did with with only imagine, you know, you there's a part of the story here. There's compelling no matter what are entertaining, no matter. So you can you can look past that, and it doesn't make you wish. Like, all right. You know wish this was not targeting. It's it's demographic so hard that they had to like make it feel like somebody's things were forced in there. But I still enjoyed it man. It's not. I I've read some reviews of it where I think people are. Going in pretty hard on this just because you know, it it is a God movie. Well, I mean from the things you not just from the things you say, but the things I see in the trailers, it looks like a cut above the average faith-based movie. Yeah. Oh, really is. Yeah. Some silly things man. I'm but but for the most part. Man. It's it's not bad. It's just like, I it's just a riddle. Okay. Let's see here. Oh, well, thank you for your sacrifice. Oh martin. I could tell you you move the meghani believe in God more. Maybe not for the reasons. Jal? We'll be joking. I some people some people take a nude new. He got. But I'm fair. We see here. You wanna Easter story real quick? Sure. Get out of here. So it is about to happen today. This man on his property. There's a dentist to. Is you know, what I do a lot of great scenarios decorations for Halloween says I want to make a tributary Easter and he put these mannequins on his yard on no need, which was supposed to be like an old way. That guy was driving by thought once was hanging off the over which I wish a wishy thought one was a prostitute. Medika took them on. What he did? He wants to do to to Hugh, Hefner. This is what this is funny. Bunnies. Okay. This is Easter bunnies. I'm gonna do my own version of the Easter bunny put these sexy buddies out that he's sexy playboy bunnies out there. And that that was his setup. How long before the homeowners association made him take all that shit? Now. I like I like the way you even ask about the the Medicare on far, right? And like nowadays, not sexy. Was that one? Everybody's into. About to fall over. Well is different. I don't even know if they have a homeowners association, but they have a homeowner who said, I don't wanna see that shit. Right. She's she's she drove she drove back and forth to she said enough is she took it upon herself to take this shit there. Oh concern that you're gonna get a fine or anything, you're this is someone's property. Resident who said she's had enough takes matters into your own hands dismantling display outside Clifton home. Some have deemed disrespectful, I've got a son. He's sixteen years old. He's a good boy. You're listening to see this every time I take him back from school. You're you're still enjoying that. Your son is put this shit on me. Right. He said I've seen a whole lot worse. Are you familiar with the internet? Put that shoot. I don't wanna look at that. And if I was a kid, I'd be like mom, I think they got attorney you won't find some put that on me. She's just be honest. These mannequins make her feel insecure. To. Yeah. That put that on me Ma go home and look at porn every night. He saw him at twenty five any more. And I can't look like. Yeah. And I don't need this out. Here reminded me. My muscles. Don't need to see all you say. It was sixteen sixteen sixteen. Sean impressive, man. Now, you don't know your son lady. Are you doing this whole jacking right now? Rather to playboy. This. Way worse than playboy. Oh, yeah. No. You'll starts at home looking at something way. Whereas here. I love the way you send up being mad about doing this from my son get they don't even. You're looking at pornography. This started like that lose crucial to win interviewed her son. Yeah, I guarantee you you would have heck you right now. You. God see I knew those mannequins would drive him to this with all kind of crevices on screen. You'll son is Joe Sloan is raw right now. The thing Tom buddy, man, because he's magazine. These look these are these mannequins really any different besides and lingerie they any different from the manikins. You see at a store. Has you may as your son if you have to take your son in the mall, and he looked into the gap? Oh, no navy with dick out and just win at it. Then you ain't got to worry about right here. I love how she's just committing this this this this crime on the news proudly guys even telling her, aren't you frayed that you're going to get in trouble for damaging someone else's property. Just needs to go. But based on what I have to protect my son. Okay. When your son is well when you in jail, you're gonna be looking at all this is gonna be fun to watch you explain how you had to spend his college fund. Yeah. See? In the peer may. Well, I mean, she almost qualified leads. Yeah. She does man. The black people white white white girl mannequins. You should see do when he comes home. Oh, you got that. He'll yet eight because of news crews, they they were gone into his driveway. Can he's like what the hell is. Need to see this every time. I take him back from school the stuff that woman identified as Deserie mosaic is talking about this display of five. Scantily clad mannequins that are daunting? Just lingerie fishnet stockings and bunny years. It's an attraction that has gotten a lot of attention. The New Jersey neighborhood. The display sits on the foot law is having a good time. I know she Easter. Only one out that made Arthur Wayne Gandhi's dental office on grove street. According to neighbors, the dentist is widely known for his holiday displays, especially on Halloween. But this particular one some say crosses the line. This is Easter come on. To meet thirty distasteful and disrespectful. Again. I gotta say this. If Jesus came back and saw he'd be like man, this is pretty fucking cool. Jeez. Don't wanna see donate Tiffany scenes. Like, how is this more disrespectful than bunnies in eggs that have nothing to do with the other day? Jesus would be like I'll take this anyday than looking at myself hung up on a cross what the fuck makes you think I wanna come back and see myself and bleeding all some would in airtime this way came back. Cumby got me on some would've bleeding out. And I'm like this. Then he ready. Yeah. No, no. You're you're you're making a celebration out of my worst day ever. Thank you. Yeah. Jesus. You're going to go back get triggered everytime. Jesus. I would I would have been beg years ago had been putting up stuff like this, Tiffany. Now that will bring me back. Since. Fucking every time. I come got a snuff film going with me. What about Mel Gibson? I don't know what to say about it. Yeah. You're gonna come back and look like a scene from hostile y'all. Leading at the wrist wanna see this shit. I want to go to the club. You know mos-? Dennis was just kind of oblige. This was about to get Jesus brought about to be back to that one was fucking with this. This is why we can't have anything these came back and saw Yanni. Commie when that display backup about about it. But yeah that Dr man that Dennis city. They got him coming home. Kind of like upright on. No. But he looked like Gary out. No, he looks like. Steve wasn't from the from office, gravity. Fifty. Steve carell. According to neighbors, the dentist is widely known for his holiday displays, especially on Halloween. But this particular one some say crosses the line. This is Easter come on to meet very stay spill disrespectful. Others in the neighborhood. However feel differently the right to do what he wants to do property. If you don't like it the look at it. Oh, yeah. That's cool neighborhood. Who have? Doesn't mostly just two chicks out there. Mad? And y'all up guarantee they dressed like that. At one time. I I don't know if they did another let me say, I'm making assumptions about people. I don't know. I'm not going to say that. But yeah, he comes doctorate here. But mosaic said she was tired of looking at it dismantling the display as picks eleven cameras rolled. A neighbor came and took it down. She said bothered her. And she said was eleven on the scene when Dr Ganji returned to his office learning from us. What happened she'd be headed? She did not like that display, man. That's so much evidence. Yeah. Like, you say it's cameraman, and it's not just somebody with itself. It's a news crew. Tell you tell you to your face. You don't mind that you're committing a crime rate? Nope. They must be must protect the children. Spleen that the display had nothing to do with Easter and everything to do with honoring the late Hugh Hefner on. What would have been his ninety third birthday dismissing claims it was disparaging Easter report the characters out on the one. And unfortunately, it was to- spin on me attacking the celebration of Easter. You know, if I was him. Real strippers hang out that day. Take shifts keep fucking with me. I'll give somebody mad about it. And try to move your son will be hit now discount build anyway. Anyway, I don't my son in a seat. Strippers how to take care of themselves. And there's somebody put their hands on them. I make the neighborhood mad. I'd have every dude in and chicken the neighborhood those that all like that. You're really gonna love this y'all hate it that you really hate me. No. And thing is they talked about how he does these grand displays for holidays like Halloween this year. He's probably going to be like, I know you don't get that. Now are like I say he'll go harder. Reenactments of crimes beheadings. Sexy bra of Frankenstein and his my nine eleven display. You know, what I'll just pull Megan's back out there. Just make pose fucking each other. Job. I'll could blow up doll. Dolls thing would be to do it in connect electric current to it. This is. But you keep you. Yeah. Man. I I mean, there's I'm sure there's an argument that can be made about what's being displayed there. But here's here's the thing that you could do. Knock on his door and say, hey. Kind of don't like this, this tasteful, would you mind? Will she you're going to say, no? But you don't know that could be like, well, that's not really how minute and and if you get a couple of people saying that you like all right? It's not worth it for me to fight the neighborhood. And sure so what do you do? Then if does say, no. I mean, then you look illegally at which you legally legalize look and see what you can do. But you'll you do not, you know, this this whole frontier Justice thing. This is not the society we live in where. Yeah. It sounds cool on TV and you say I should have just done this, and well, you should just gone to jail. Yeah. You open yourself up to a lot more trouble than you think. No, you're right. There's another news report that says that saw Eric sent me this Erica since the the Monday foolishness, but I picked this one because it's Easter but. He sent to videos, and no one the video is a guy that they said that the guy's going to seek, you know, he's going to press charges against her. Yeah. For doing this. So yeah, you know. I mean, I I would. I mean, I mean part of it is like I might not want the hassle. But every time I watch it. I would get mad that she just took it upon himself to do that. And I'm like, yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna have somebody out there who feels like they can just come in and mess with my shit whenever they want without having a at least having a conversation with me. Yeah. And plus it just mannequins me. I understand. You know, like I said they blow up dolls and sex dolls out there. Fully naked and doing something. That's. Come on, the Americans exactly end up the neighborhood, doesn't like it. Then that's the neighborhood to decide. Exactly. Most of the neighborhood is cool with it than fine voted. Yeah. You got issues like nobody wants to see this. But then you got somebody come in and take him pitches with themselves. So it's like all right. Well, you can't say no one wants to see this day. No. Whatever man, but oh, let's go ahead. And then we get outta here. Out of here. Oh, let's see. See guy here of Sammy is up some back there. This is last woman. He's got one more. Somebody's nothing like Steve career. Okay. I'll take that. Well, you know, what when he was first in the van when I walked up on him. Oh, yes. Steve steve. Yeah. Oh, let's see. Get through this. We got time. We got game of thrones coming up Sammy. How you doing? Good, man. Good everybody. I'm still here. Okay. What everyone's leaving. I've never gonna see you again still here. Still be there. Skull. Little right. Little micro coudl big Michael still. Okay. It's just making sure, you know, all that. I go out. I hear Michael Jackson played everywhere. Yeah. Looking at somebody saying I'm talking about and the best case of the in the best case, the other neighbors would probably get annoyed with her. It will make a rip for troublemaker. Yeah. I can see that too. It's his property and not unknown hate symbol. That's true too. Yeah. I heard she hates playboy bunny as a hate simple. You see here. Yeah. Let me see kind of neighboring goes into your yard and maybe house because they feel they have a personal rate. All right. We'll see what happens shit about that. Man. He sees somebody Astles on the internet so much porn in his life. He had fast internet his whole life. He's seen porn exact take trial mode era. Like, the the were one click at a time when that image to load up. I mean, I had to wait you guys. I don't know what the fuck you guys had to do for your porn growing up. You don't even wanna know. I told you sit there when apple an hour waiting for nipple. Oh, yeah. Nothing but white noise and funds and then clear picture scramble for second. Yeah. Disgruntled point over I told you there was that neighbor mud who had won the death star satellites in his backyard took like about thirty minutes. We heard a car coming up on bail. But neighbors house. Sorry hear this man. Twenty years. They had that set it was early satellite. And when the parents left, we should we put on porn, but you know, when that garage was the starting to open because fortunately, his dad had a clicker down the street. He was open the garage garage open. We should we got side trying to turn. Hundred. We destroyed Alder on. Yeah. How's it going, man? Good, man. Good. Good. Good. What's going on Allan? I went to karaoke yesterday. Are you confident the place? We went for Halloween. Yeah. It was your second third. We'd once we'd gone that like for like thirty seconds at one time with me at thirty seconds, and your and your brother in law and his wife, actually. Oh, yeah. We were there for like ten seconds. And then we're gone, but Saint place, and yeah, it how Scott he was like, hey, man. Let's go get a drink in buddy of mine's having birthday. Let's go karaoke. He's got a private room back there. Okay. When strange that didn't nosing Garry oak. The common interest. Oh nice. Yeah. A lot of fun. But it was really hard to see how much older they all were than me. Because clearly youngest one by maybe ten years. I was like what ninety song can do. I know what the Beatles day tripper. Sorry about that one. Then I was like, okay. They're about eighty seven to ninety four. So I threw in this. What's going? Three of them. Joined okay threats. All okay. Let's you pay Carioca saw Jesus. I have a rotation. I take too seriously. You know this. They have a rotation. I think you've seen me do carry three or four times. And that's just the times. You've seen me. I have like. Really we need to go. Have karaoke. If I go, I don't I don't care to carry. We'll we'll do one. Christopher cross song on spill told when I first met you guys we got drunk and San Diego. We're waiting in line for a burrito. And we. Right. Like the win where he's saying ground goo. Yeah. He was my Michael McDonald? Oh, you know, y'all should go to place de teamer. Close. Okay. De que sushi decay. Sushil thursdays. Is that Lamar? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They they do the place. I'm going to tell you about this is beginning to a place called decay sushi and on Thursdays, they do karaoke. And it's hosted by the owner who thank you. His name is d I think he's the decay. But he, but he like he's. Actual japanese. Awesome. Just don't bear. But he's a he gets up like he's a comedian. And he just he gets dirty, and he starts hosting on looking at people like fuck your mother. How do you want to go there? I I went on Thursday. And and then you start going off black Dick's and all kinds of stuff. And I for some reason I got drunk as fuck with this, man. And I got on an I because I wasn't going to sing. But in my wife was says she she's a new when he start talking about black Dixon going crazy. You get on stage and start fucking with him. Recommend recommend going. I'm talking. I'm not gonna sound like I'm talking about. I'm not the places. A lot of fun y'all should go. One. It's like it's considered to be you can come to. But are you banned from there after the story? I think I'm not allowed there anymore because no, no, actually. Guys. He's he he bought the place almost like so he could host his own comedy show. Cool, but he loves fucking with people. And he started talking about black Dixon, and I went I remember one up there. One time look at your dig and only give you the dignity. I wanna stage, of course, I super free. But I changed every word like singing to him. So you know, he's a very frequent guy. When I get him, alone instance, wines and Kelly. Whereas where it was him point him to. I he was like having a good time you'd like in the market talking about fucking. He just kind of turned around and. My wife, he just kind of gave up and just walked away. But I, but no it was you should go. Check that out. Well, now Thursdays are freed after this. Yeah. You definitely you should definitely go, man. I made a said time, I might go there myself, but they closed promptly at ten. It was not a late night place president, Fresno, California because everything closes in that play hometown. Everything goes, the tanks at the bowling alley and Denny's, oh, you know, another then you got a call at eleven and get a reservation, and that's not a fancy place small, but they fill up so eleven the morning you live in a morning. Yeah. Because if you call it like numerous something that kind of done, so they do it. They got a south location where they do it on Mondays. But that one is because I discovered that that plays soul career down the street from my house is a decay. Sushi. Oh, really? Yeah. That's that's what I'm talking. Yeah. Yeah. Sushi good at least. Yeah. Places. It's walking. Oh, yeah. Groovy? It's one of those considered to be like an attraction in Austin now. So then if you get a chance when you come to Austin, you talking about going to a sushi place if you really want to do it up one of Austin's big hidden secrets look decay sushi and call ahead highly recommend this a lot. It's a lot of fun anyway. And yeah, so I'm just saying that because you got like you might wanna do Carioca sometime. There's a lot of fun there. Anyway, let's get into the top five. We get into game of thrones. Yes, people will be doing game of thrones. After we're done here. We're gonna watch it. I'm gonna watch it here. I'm sure whoever wants to join the can on Robert date, aka DJ miles will become an here. Watch this whole last season. Having not seen the previous ones. Just sit around just watch it all just watch the ending should cut corners good. Fun this. But anyway, tough five just because you're top got them. Hey, what is the number five movie, sir? Little your little right? Martin is little weekend gross on eight point four million dollars. Total gross is twenty nine point three million dollars after two weeks. That's on a budget of twenty million. It drops forty five percent. But it's also made thirty four million worldwide and look at the budget. I mean, it's absolutely fine. Absolutely fine. Twenty million got nine more plus a couple extra internationally. It's on its way out hell with endgame coming out might be a little small resurgence of it. Because people like I don't wanna see that shit. What's out? Now little that's fun. And they'll just go see it number four definitely had that effect because of what's coming next week in. What is the return of captain marvel? Oh, yeah. What was it last week? It's like seven or eight really. But it had a huge bump in numbers. Just with like, fewer theaters and still big jump in numbers. Just because everybody's like all right. I gotta go. See it before in game. Right. Fucking procrastination homework or some. So. Yeah, this this went from like way del the way down lost. How many theaters it was three hundred twenty two occasions went up six percent four hundred million after seven weeks and this weekend brought nine point one million. And that's on a budget of one hundred six to seven MC you movie to do that for a million domestically. So him people are underestimating captain marvel. This endgame is how my God isn't a break. Everything. It's going to break everything. I can't wait. Yeah. You'll be there on Tuesday. Right. Yes. And I probably gonna do Martin's method. And as soon as I'm done here. Just log off everything because it's just it's not worth it. Because I I got spoiled three hours before endgame now. I'm sorry. Poster of everybody who died. Three hours of this. So I chewed out. And then he was just weird. Samsar, but they will hopefully that won't happen here watch ZIM box too. Because that's where they got me for Logan, a really they'll send just messages on. And they'll be spoiler. The messages be careful to you got almost. Did you get someone some since you? Yeah. I had this troll for years that I've just never blocked just because it's entertaining. Because what he writes me so stupid. I think it is. Maybe you'd probably maybe say something about you too at one time. No, okay. No. No, no. It's not who you think it is not somebody from this from way back in the spill days. Okay. Who who had a resurgence and? Yeah, he he sent me something like, oh suppose they're out there cap, and I was like shut it down. I'm like when I see the movie, I'm comeback. And then block you Laurie. Yeah. I should have done it years ago. But it's like, yeah. All right. What is number three? Zam right completely. No, no breakthrough too late now. No, not doing it wasn't what you look at me. He was like what? Like what? Eleven point one million dollars this weekend on. Oh. Oh, yeah. I guess it. Did it open earliest about Wednesday open on Wednesday? Okay. So it has a total gross of fourteen point six, and that's on a budget of fourteen million dollars. That was the thing. This is the first FOX released from Disney that's of note, which kind of Disney doesn't universe. But the real big thing is that everyone thought it was better than it was supposed to be like everyone thought like us. Give me another shady one of those. And there's actually a lot better opening day audiences liked it. It's doing pretty good numbers right now. So it's it's Easter they needed religious movie out there. There's no for some reason. There's no animated hip hip, hop rabbit bunny running around co because Indians coming out. So usually throw like a big budget cartoon, and nobody really did that let's go Jesus's time it paid paid off through. And like I said you heard I review of that. Not bad. Definitely one of the better John Smith and Mexican. I know. Like or something? And he's and he's watermelon. I did read that I was like what the fuck is moving. What is the number two movies? The other formerly known as kept immobile movie. Seventeen point three million dollars is we can't for total gross overall after three weeks of one hundred and Twenty-one million on a budget of one hundred million drop twenty nine percent this week. It did exactly what needed to do before next week which is make it's money back make a little bit extra. It's what at one hundred three hundred twenty two million worldwide. So no, I it got in. It'll stay in the top five while and game is just hair and everything up. But it's going to hang around there. There's still people like my sister. She's this last week in just two kids. She took him to go see it because they didn't get around to it this time, I'm having it's having success. But I honestly expected to do better. That's the thing. I think that's just the districts with DC lobby. It's good. And even the earth in the fandango van like I mentioned before that was like, I'm really excited for this. It's good. But not quite as good as I think that kind of that kind of suppressed a little bit of the audience with with the way, aquaman one all the money. And it's it's a it's a better film. I mean, it's my own opinion. Right. But it's it's a it's a more enjoyable film and awkward man can also be more timing commanders during Christmas time, so people more people were able to see more off. Oh, yeah. Point so good. Good news. Good thing movie. So no, I enjoyed it. Very much enjoying it brings us to the number one movie sur, LA LA LA LA year. Rona? Yes, we can gross lot of money meant twenty six points early guys, isn't because of that. The only way I can remember how to say to a wife. Yeah. Actually Sammy told me it. Yeah. No. I I know that. But when I'm saying it, my brain will twisted. Yeah. Brought in twenty six point five million dollars on a nine million dollar budget. So take that Coleman. Yeah. Everyone was like, oh, this will do fine did a lot better than expectations because people don't understand that Mexicans will go see anything in Spanish mass lose thing. And there's like five million internationally. It's like in the mid thirty thirty millions with opening weekend. That's what I mean. If it wasn't so goddamn whitewash. Let's be honest here if it wasn't the conjuring universe. Yeah. It wasn't a white lady doing it. If it was actually lie your own and not the screaming. Monster thing jump scare extraordinaire, probably be do a lot better. But they went, oh, she's just a scary. Monster will users scary monster. But it had a lot of that goodwill with that legend. So it's an interesting thing because the dad who's a cop who's killed before the movie starts a little bit. You see of him get the impression that he was Mexican and the kids are half. But they don't they don't bring that up at all. They look have to you. Yeah. Okay. 'cause I didn't I didn't. I just thought maybe. Made any day as kids. The whole point is like the the scene of them in the car. The kids are stupid you said, and they're like fumbling around or whatever the whole point. Is that later on is not a stump scare spooky monster. It's a foreboding presence. We used to hear the crying getting louder and louder and they're in the car fumbling around you should be hearing crying the whole time. I would probably shit myself that was played on this. He's jumping out screaming spook cash. It right. Yes. It's all right. But the whole point is when you talked about the universal or six flags has the lie. You're on a maze. Yeah. Because they have speakers crying. And then I would probably crying myself because that's just the legend that I grew up with looking scary. So. Wait for the next. Country. Was this story. Samuel haynes. The irony of the playboy bunny Easter display, the origins of this quote, unquote, holy day actually, lie with some pagan fertility goddesses with Christianity spun to serve their needs get followers who was celebrating the pagan holiday the guy who put the display was celebrating it properly. Yeah. Yes. That's true. Yeah. I did not know that, but I guess rabbit's foot. Yeah. So he was so there you go. He was actually the that was the most sincere display out there that day. Drew, your boy drew was here. Drew benson. Drew benson. He wants to talk about fast and furious. Oh has he seen it? I think it's responded to the trailer on the greatest things said to mankind. Yeah. God I'm so excited for that movie. I've never even seen furious craze. They've been braced. You cannot you cannot say anything. I mean, even if it looks you just have to be like, well, they know it so. Could roll with. It's a GI. Joe carter. No, I have all my God is the greatest thing ever more. Maybe maybe you should see before you say anything. Oh, really? 'cause you mates trade. I saw the one with eight inches Elba as the villain down on that trickles down on. Let me let me let me play. Drew's. Okay. Oh, gee, Marlon killers. Poppy, we'll talk about fast furious. Ship man down house. How's that should cold? But you didn't know man, my favorite series is favorite actresses. Besides his marvel shit is festive. Here's especially when five came because this when they start losing fucking mind. I like it better. Like this. Let's see fast five. We had them connected them cable to the votes from the Bank six you had tanks on the freeway seven. We had thrones flying down shooting Nicklaus eight we had the fucking day in Iceland driving is head of some had a bigger as boss battle of a submarine. Chasing heirs would we gonna get in nine man, which is next year. Chemo reminding is dead. This is a is a is a side mission. I mean, it's a spinoff people claiming western or thriller. Is like his black and white Woody Allen movie. Dixieland in the background. We're going to give it to the cars in the reysen get one right sigma each movie man, stop complaining, and they went back to that style completely movies. Probably the DVD at the at this point, then women no type of money like they making all this crazy shit. Fuck. Those are little old style that tears thing. They're going do pass who they're going to submarine shit, anywhere. Stay toast, chickens. He's we just he kept walking and just wanted to their own. What is in Mexico? It's space. Eric you saying Spacey, I'm thinking how well not this one because they show the big set piece in trailer. What of at least I mean, if they go crazier than the helicopter nine for over nine space. Yeah. You you crash a car into a space shuttle, and then you jump sail away from space mission. And then and then at this point. You have them go to direct park. Yeah. I mean, we've said that they'll the two. I'm not for you. Not. I'm not joking now, I'm being serious. We don't go there. And they go back in time. Yes shit. I'm telling you. I wish they gotta do. Join the racing in old cars bottle wagons. Chuck way. Tom's grandfather. Like a drug Renner or something for like a mob. Yeah. It's old Mets. I'm telling you bring in bringing dinosaurs. A one point if you don't do that bring in transformers do a joint venture. That's the other transformers seem like the most likely one space dinosaurs, transformers, go back and forward in time. He said was it the the monsters because it's universal. Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then another one where they're trapped in a video game. Yeah. No. Germont though, Chris is mad core. Does it all the time with these movies? He looks at the trailers and goes it look stupid, but it's a wear of it. And I'm aware of it. And I'm just going to go in and have fun with it. And then he sees and comes back like man that was so stupid. I just couldn't go with it is just it's just too goddamn much. He's right. Be the one that change. I like super shit I own up to Grimm's which came throw was wasn't coming on at ask. You let me see the trailer Hobbs. It's not worth it. I got I got it. Download it right here. It's not gonna take that long. Let me see if. Hope I have it where put it. Okay. Maybe it's not their hold on. I got I got you think. Catchy. When you see? Right. Fold is not gonna take that long. There. It is right there. This year is how there it is got us so excited for this. Like, I've just like I I don't get excited for this gave him this, really. It's back. That's because it's so stupid. But it's so Martin here you go. You ready Bratislava his? The door. That's my door pick another door was Roman. You know, what you were right? What's the matter? You got a lot of bad guys by not do. Access granted. Access denied access denied. Access tonight. Cokes. We've gone. Sure sister took something from me. Progress the wipeout Hof the population I wanted back. Tell me just what we're dealing with here. My sister family is. When it's the fate of the world. It becomes my business. I think. Coffees system. Only spoke together like a team LeicesteR. This look up. I see the look on his face. You have no idea waiting to do that. Started. Let's see we can get sick. See you guys are being hunted. An army of mercenaries led by genetically hence soldier could be. Brock supermac, crazy. He really is black superman. Get off the grid. Let is called. I'm sorry to bring trouble your momma, but I need my brothers. This family is going to war. We're gonna need cars and God. Whereas all our guns. I keep very noble. Mrs hops trouble statement. Let's get old school. All right. This. Go. Go. This is the world look at this. Seven. When he have like a balloon house like helicopter May Day. Maybe I will come back and say stupid, I'm trying to go with come trying not to be that guy. But that's it had Mars Moen warclubs Martin. Got nothing. No kidding. I. Awesome. For the most part. I was like, yeah. There is a certain early. You. Gotta let things go. Yeah. And I was like, you know, what this looks like fun. It looks like a lot of crazy fund. I mean, really the point where they what can you say, no? Was there to wear? Plus, we Chris Harman I did a a reaction to this where we point out a lot of things. One of those things was I said, you know, it's really a buddy comedy at this is straight. Man, was one's a funny guys. It's Martin Lewis steroids steroids, fighting people. Yeah. Yeah. I mean too often that thing that would have broke this for me was if they're comedy back and forth. If I'd have been like real if I'd been rolling my eyes on guys, you're not funny. You think like, you know, kind of cute it's kind of funny and action stuff is so out there. You don't like. Wow. You know, what I appreciate the way? You guys are just completely going for it lost fucking money. Yeah. I gotta tell you, man. I said. Exciting. Right, right. Aren't you? I am actually despite myself aunt, why are they putting guns to have a Maori war fight. I don't know the actual guys. But the villains these guns looking man. Chilean squad. But I said this I said please found a way like you did with Jason's stay make make eater Selbe guy and make them join the fam-. So that we can now actually say literally say we have superhero on team. That's right. That's what they're missing. That's the first step. Yeah. Go into that space and dinosaur. They did it with. He was enemy. And now, he's how teams another thing. How what did they explain how that worked like did? He actually kill. Yeah. Yeah. And they never explained why. He he killed hun hun. Yeah. They never they never came back. They were mad at him. But it was like, well, I know you guys mad, but you gotta work together on this. Right. Was it wasn't an accident misunderstanding. So he killed her hand birdie. Yeah. Right. He fucked him up. But then it was like, oh, no bigger bad. You have to join forces. We kill their friend. Let's go said -nificant point would be like, wait a minute. You did that. Everybody's like, oh, well, you guys killed my brother. So fuck this. Family. Yeah. All you what you're talking about. That is a source of tension between him and the ruck. Okay. That's that's as far as it goes, even with Iraq didn't even know how cool. Hey, good night, everybody. Cool Jima dot com. Casey. Enzi and. Question comes into input hand advice. Stay tuned for the game of thrones discussion, which happened right up the game grown, Mr Thomas can find me on Instagram. Martin underscore. No Frode three days are now as well. As look me up on Facebook. If you're on there until I get back on please join a group of children. DT on face the mex-. Let's all their form social media. 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"It as a race car driver. That's what I love to do. And I'm just lucky enough that I get to live out. My dream Joey Lugano is on top of the world. I want be a champion. That's going to help grow a sport. Andy recalls. How his wife's labor was no fun. That's it. I can't go fast crafts. Garro NPR ins garage pass. Hey travelers. Do you want to save money on your next flight, then pick up the phone and call? That's right. Call because the best prices are not online. They're with smartfares. See smartfares has special deals with the airlines when they have unsold seats they use smartfares to fill them. So you get airline tickets at ridiculously low prices. Our prices are to low to publish online with the extra money, you'll save you can book another trip for treat yourself to dinner or shopping. So stop searching all of those travel sites to find the lowest price on your next flight. Let one of our smartfares expert travel agents, find ridiculously low prices for you. Call smartfares today and get the best price on your next flight guaranteed. Also, save up to fifty percents off business in first class tickets eight hundred nine eight nine oh, two three three eight hundred nine eight nine oh, two three three that's eight hundred nine eight nine zero two. Thirty-three when Joey Logano drove past Martin true ex junior and the closing laps at the season finale at homestead capturing the two thousand eighteen monster energy Cup series championship. It was a dream. Come true that began when he was a young boy growing up in Connecticut. It's crazy. You know, you never thought that one of your risk of ever since you're a little kid and wanting to just go home every day and drive in the yard drive. I myself just go make laughs made a little racetrack. As a made so many laps that that it kind of wears a track in your backyard and sometimes the neighbor's yard and their sprinklers in their mailboxes. But that's what I love to do. And I'm just lucky enough that I got to live out my dream in finally get to the top people will now. Discover the twenty eight year old has a ton of personality and doesn't agree with critics who say among the drivers. There aren't many flavors. I don't think we're as Fennell as you think I think there's any of interesting personalities, you know. You know Kyle Busch he's a so much personality. It's great. And and everyone's just who they are. Everyone's just who you are in not fake. And I want to do the right thing for your sponsors. But still be who you are the most important piece from Twitter as a date night Kyle Busch and wiped Samantha attended a Justin Timberlake concert. Meanwhile, getting in shape. Eric Merola tweeted, he rode ten thousand meters said it was no joke and hall of fame driver, Mark Martin as just celebrated his sixtieth birthday from the South Georgia plain to the north Georgia mountains once a year the young and the old descend on our NASCAR race weekend. At Atlanta Motor Speedway building new traditions and rekindling Oakland's as new season springs. Delight racing runs. Deep into the heart of Georgia that yori twenty third and twenty four it. Saturday's were nine to fifty and Atlanta two hundred doubleheader and Sunday's thrilling folds of honor quick, drip, five hundred Sunday ticket started forty four dollars and kids tickets or just ten bucks at Atlanta Motor Speedway. Dot com in early January a year ago, Joey Logano and wife Brittany became parents with the birth of their baby. Boy Hudson Joey would later tell us. It was good. But I was kind of disappointed about the whole labor part. I was expecting like oh my God. It's happening. We gotta go hall the mail and tribe off the road and go off roading to get to the hospital in time because the baby's going to fall, and it's gonna be really cool, and I was all excited for that moment ready to go. And then she's like, I don't know. What's going and go? Yeah. Sure. You should go down there. I'm like, that's it. I can't go fast. Crap. Garro NPR is garage pass. Brought to you by Atlanta Motor Speedway.

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