18 Burst results for "Yo Kitch"
The Lowe Post
"yo kitch" Discussed on The Lowe Post
"Wow, if we get in the playoffs when we face those teams, we're frightened of them, but we'll talk about that, we'll talk about that later. So I will start this discussion by asking you point blank. Every meeting I had this week in New York, I had a lot of meetings. I asked this question. And it was met with deep breaths and size and pauses. Oh my God. Wow. Based on what we know today. Right now, not if everyone's healthy, not if there's an ideal scenario like that, not X, Y, and Z, not if so and so passes so and so in the standings, it gets home court based on what we know right now. Who would you pick to come out of the west and make the finals? So I think to, you know, everything you just said, I think the rules, some of the rules that normally exist don't apply this year because if you're saying that in hollinger went into this and that column, this is kind of the usual mark of a team that makes the finals. If nobody qualifies for that, it is a contender. He was talking out there and kind of everybody's a contender to a degree. I would also sing, are you saying there are no rules? Just right. The other element I would say to your point, though, is with those teams that we kind of think of is sleeping giants individually their chances if they're 6 they're lower are not that high. But if there's three or four of them that have that potential collectively their chances are pretty high. So all of that is my long way of saying that I think there's like 7 or 8 teams that have at least a 5% chance of winning the Western Conference. But without with your the way you phrase the question, I think you have to default to Denver as the number one seed is the single most likely team in the team that has the fewest question marks going into the playoffs. And let's be clear the way I phrased this question is you have to make some assumptions, right? So based on what we know today, my best assumptions would be the following. LeBron comes back at some point towards the end of the beggar season. Do I know that for sure? No, I don't. What the hell is going to happen? We'll see. Durant comes back, let's say two, three games. He gets in the regular season. It could be more, could be less, let's just, but in my head, that's what I'm assuming. Wiggins comes back from this family matter that is very, very serious. And at some point and makes the warriors hold again. Those would be my built in assumptions. I have to answer my own question. Based on all that information all those assumptions, I think I would pick Phoenix and I wouldn't feel great about it because obviously no matter when Durant comes back, assuming he does before the end of the season if he does, they're not going to have a lot of time to play with their key lineups. They are already plus 44 in 62 minutes, which is do the math quite good. With the big three and 8 and on the floral together, just 62 minutes, they got to figure out who their 5th guy is, what their bench rotation is. You can see Monty Williams every game is like, okay, you're gonna play in the first half Jacqueline. Oh, I didn't like that biz Mac you got the stint in a second half, okay. TJ Warren, you give it a shot here in the second quarter. Oh, you still look really injured. Terrence Ross, coming to oh, you were zero for 5. Damian Lee, come on, and it's just like, okay, this is the price of a trade like this mid season without an ability to rebuild your bench, but I think this stretch from Denver was more than just something you can wave away with, like, ah, just malaise, regular season. They don't care. They're going through the motions, yo kitch is playing 9 dimensional chess to lose the MVP on purpose, none of this matters. I think there are real questions about their defense. Jamal Murray's play has been up and down and up and down all season. And their depth just, I had to add a Mars on earlier this week, and I said, who's the second best bench player on their team? Who's the 7th guy on their team? And he said, Christian Brown, who at that point was not even in the rotation. And then went in the rotation, so I think there are real questions about Denver. They are 30 and 6 at home, which to your point is a big deal. I would go Phoenix. I don't feel great about it. I picked the clippers to make the finals before the season. We'll talk about them shortly, but do you worry about how much do you worry about did Durant continuity factor? The idea that they're just not going to have time to figure out their team. I don't worry that much about the drink continuity factor. I mean, I think that's kind of the beauty of Duran is you've talked about so many times that he's like the most plug in place superstar in NBA history and I think we saw that in the three games that he did play with the sun's granted that two of them were against pretty weak competition and the third of which Dallas, like that's a team that has all sorts of its problems of its problems of its own that we'll get into at some point here. So that's maybe why I'm a little lower. And the other aspect of it is, look, if Kevin Durant were healthy this entire time, yes, they would be building continuity. They would also be gaining winds and when they won that game against Dallas, it seemed like there was a pretty good chance they might be able to move into that third seed in that two, three bracket that looks much friendlier right now than if you're in the four, 5 bracket, you're going to probably have to play another one of these teams with a lot of postseason track record in the first round. Second round you're lining up for Denver and that seems like a much more difficult path. I mentioned 2018 is kind of the comparison to the west being this jumbled the next year 2019 is probably the better comparison in terms of one half of the bracket had the rockets, the warriors. I think the rockets play the jazz in the first round that year in the jazz were really strong in terms of point differential. And then the other side of the bracket had Denver, which was making its first playoff run, had the blazers coming off of that sweep in the first round. It was the friendlier side of the bracket and Portland road that to the Conference Finals, whereas Houston, a team that I think generally we would have said was the stronger those two teams lost in the second round because that's when they came up against the war years. Yeah, that was the end. That was really the end of the rocket, more or less. I mean, that was Durant gets hurt at the end of game 5 in that series in Golden State. And the rockets have the red carpet laid out in front of them. Like, okay, the year before your team was better, that was a 65 win team. They were up three two against the warriors and the Conference Finals in the battle of the juggernauts and then Chris Paul got hurt and I drove a dog. I heard the rockets miss 9 million 3s. They lose a series. Come back next year, not as good. The fourth seed warriors of the one seat and down goes Durant and you got a chance and they just pooped the bed and the warriors warriors them to depth with one step draymond pick and roll after another, then Chris Paul got traded and then of course my grand conspiracy starts to kick in between the sixers the rockets James Harden and the nets to defraud the nets out of their draft picks and all this stuff happens and now the sixers are amazing and they have James Harden. Do I believe in that conspiracy? Maybe 5% of my soul does. Okay, let's talk about the playoff races then.
The Lowe Post
"yo kitch" Discussed on The Lowe Post
"With jokic on the floor, at least. And their offense is going to travel has traveled. It's going to be playoff ready. It's fine. 16th in defense and slumping right now is not going to be good enough. And jokic is a big part of that. I said, just last week with Howard Beck, I don't want to hear from these people who are like, yo kitch is actually a really good defender. I said he's average or worse. I know what my eyes see. He's average or worse. I think he's probably average in the aggregate. The playoffs isn't the aggregate. The playoffs is like one bad matchup and you're out. And so all the aggregate stuff doesn't really matter that much. And I do think one interesting thing about their defense is and one reason why I think there's some curiosity how it holds up in the playoffs is the two ends of the floor interact, right? And I think one of the reasons why Denver has been able to hang around the top ten in defense for part of this year in parts of some previous years is their offense is so goddamn good. They get to set their defense every time. I'm looking at the numbers today, cleaning the glass has them 26th in points allowed per possession in transition. Bad about that bad off of defensive rebounds by the other team and turnovers both. Right. And some of the other numbers are a little less sort of dramatic than that in other places. But the idea that if it becomes harder to score in the playoffs, if their offense, which is, let's say, 98th percentile now drops to 85th percentile in the playoffs. Is just that enough to imperil their defense. What do you think of that? And someone who as someone who just watches this team every game, when you're going to be watching these next 15 games and saying, I want to see signs that this team is dialing it in on defense. What do you watch for? I mean, that's a really good question. First of all, I want to go to the transition defense even off of just missed shots. One theory I have with this because this has been a trend with the nuggets for a while and one theory I have with it is Denver part of what makes them so dynamic on offense is they're so good at forcing switches and they're so good at taking advantage of those switches. Jokic is too big for the guards and the wings and then you have players Aaron Gordon, who's too big if you put a guard onto him or this or that. But if you don't score, you're often mismatched in transition the other way in Denver is especially bad guarding out of position as well. Jokic has to guard a guard. That's a really tough matchup for him. So I wonder if that's part of it, trying to come up with a theory of why is it that Denver's numbers are so different from made basket versus not. And I have a suspicion that's at least part of it. But what I'm looking at. That's interesting. That's a good thought. I think that last night's game against the Brooklyn Nets who, by the way, I love Brooklyn. I think they're such an interesting team to watch. But I think it was one of the most, if not the single most interesting game for trying to predict what are going to be the challenges for the nuggets in a postseason because they made their run in the third quarter when they went very small. Claxton picked up I think his fourth foul, they brought in Dorian Finney Smith to guard jokic and just said, hey, we're going to switch absolutely everything. And they hard doubled yoga trying to keep the ball out of his hands and as soon as he caught it, they sold out completely daring for anybody else to kind of go at them, not letting jokic make the passes out of there, but put them in position to where he just had to get the ball out quickly. And I think that's going to be the smartest strategy for Denver. Did Denver score a lot absolutely, but jokic had to guard the pick and roll on the other end every single time and be out on Spencer Dinwiddie. And last night, Brooklyn made their shots. So what am I looking for? I'm looking for Denver to be more dialed in and more effective against those type of lineups because they're not the type of lineups that I think beat most teams, but they're specifically designed to make Denver they're most vulnerable. So Denver's the closest thing Denver has to a base pick and roll defense is they've concluded for the most part. We can't hang jokic back at the rim like brook Lopez or embiid or the embiid blitzes now more than he has in the past. But these big guys who just, let's hang back in the paint and protect the rim. He's not a good enough leaper. He's not a deterrent at the rim, the nuggets are 29th in field goal percentage allowed at the rim. A lot of that is about you'll catch. Okay, so if we can't do that, what do we do? What is Nicole I like to do? Okay, he wants to attack the pick and roll higher on the floor. You and I have talked about this a lot. Just a listeners who know this. He's good at it. He's got pretty smart feet. So let's get him if the screen's at the three point arc, let's get him up to the arc, put two on the ball. And make the defense figure or make the offense figure it out from there. What makes me nervous about that strategy is teams with a lot of shooting and passing are going to get good shots against it a fair amount of time. And when I watched the nuggets, especially lately in this slump, that first pass to the rolling big man, it was claxton last night. It's been vucevic in recent games, hurdle. They're letting that pass through two easily. And once that guy gets the ball, it's a four on three, and it's easy picking. It's just a matter of what your choice is. And we saw what the sun's two years ago and I know everybody was hurt and campazzo and Austin rivers are starting ours. I know. But they had a ton of shooting. They moved the chess pieces around and interesting ways that really elongate the rotations behind those two guys on the ball to the point that you just can't these two shooters are separated by 25 feet of space. You can't guard both of them with one guy. I don't know, so the Denver's answer to that is with Aaron Gordon and Michael Porter junior on the wings where gigantic with
Bet The Board
"yo kitch" Discussed on Bet The Board
"So we're doing this. Or are we doing that? You tell me, and we'll tell you, we're going to compare two cards right now with similar value that are completely different. Let me give you an example. Let's just say for argument's sake, you have a vintage Mickey Mantle baseball card worth. $30,000. But you also have a modern day Joe burrow rookie card worth 30 grand. Which one would you rather have and why? You tell us, we're going to tell you right now. The cards you picked out this week are very interesting because you threw Tom Brady in again. There was some reasonings as to why we went against Tom Brady last week in this or that. But some of those might not bear fruit this week. Very interesting. Just polar opposites, which I think is makes the listeners really start to think about what these cards are, what they mean this week has some projections ahead built in. The first card we're talking about is a 2015 prism orange Nikola Jokić rookie to 65 copies in a BGS 9 5 gem mint versus a 2000 metal football Tom Brady rookie PSA gem mint ten, talk to us about what you'd rather have and maybe some things that you thought about in your pick. I brought Tom and again because we didn't pick him last time, I wanted to set the stage for him to get a little redemption potentially. And when I put these two together, I didn't know which one I was going to ultimately pick, I had to think about it a bit. But the orange jokic out of 65 and a Beckett 9 5 sold for 4200 about a week ago. You know, big men in our space just don't get the love. That shooters do. And I don't quite understand it. I mean, I love watching jokic play. He is so entertaining, in my opinion, because the guy's vertical is about three and a half inches. And yeah, he's one of the most skilled guys in the entire NBA. He's won the last two MVPs. He's 27 years old. It seems always to be healthy. I feel like he's got a ton of upside to really solidify himself as one of the NBA superstars. He's got to win a championship or really compete for one. Now they got Murray back healthy, Porter junior, they've got a really good shot to win the west this year. So we'll see how that plays out. The 2000 metal Tom Brady PSA ten sold for about 4300, so just a little bit more expensive than the yoke itch. It's a pop one 88. So now you have kind of a higher pop card versus a card where there's only 65 in total that were made. He's the goat. Obviously, you know, these cards are down about 60% from the peak a little over a year ago. So they've had a big pullback. So ten K was about the peak. They're down in the low fours. They bottomed out at about 3200, a few weeks ago and they've bounced back a little bit. But looking at these two, I'm still torn a little. I think I gotta go with jokic. Oh. I gotta go with the Joker. I gotta go with big sexy on this one. I thought we were going to have a difference of opinion, but somehow we are both in unison. I thought this is gonna be a really good debate because I talked about a 135 plus Tom Brady rookie cards in 2000 last week. That was part of the synopsis. And now you fast forward 15 years to the jokic rookie. And there's 235 plus in his rookie year. Both cards have multiple variations. We know all the colors prism offers. But Tom Brady's metal rookie has an emerald version, which is about 6 times as rare in terms of how many copies PSAs graded. I think the right context is prism basketball is one of yoga's most popular basketball sets. Metal isn't anywhere near the top 20 in terms of popularity for Tom Brady's rookie cards. And that was the difference for me. Now, I don't love big men in basketball because to your point, the market doesn't seem to respect them. I mean, we hit on this just in passing last week talking about Joel embiid, how you can get his orange prism dicot rookie to one 39 for like a 190 bucks and a PSA 9 and the guys in contention for MVP this year. It's absolutely banana land. I guess it's because they're not relatable to the average fan. But to me, and you hit it perfectly, yo kitch isn't your typical big man. He's very skilled. He can't jump over a sheet of paper. It's a vastly different type of big man. He's not out there Duncan on everybody's heads because that really isn't relatable. But the one thing that's interesting to me is because he's a big man they typically are prone to injury. He hasn't been. His game's grounded, he's not Zion, relying on being just more athletic and playing above the rim. Everyone seems to respect jokic, and I think it's time to start thinking about him a little bit differently. And you look at some of the metrics. This season again, player efficiency rating of 32. He leads the NBA in win share at 11.2. You start to think about him. I know he's only 27. But in terms of all time NBA list, player efficiency rating. Michael Jordan's number one jokic is number two. Okay. That's crazy. It's rare I fade Tom Brady back to back weeks. It's rare I'm choosing a modern card with multiple variations. I actually own the Tom Brady emerald version. But I'm going with you on this and taking the orange prism jokic, especially if we're gauging it, maybe within just a three year window, right? Jokic still in his prime, Brady's retired, you typically see that post retirement pre Hall of Fame induction law. I know Brady's out there. He's popular. Not going to be in the Fox booth this upcoming season may be in 2024. Who knows if he finds a different passion, but the financials of that Fox deal are probably too much to pass up more than he's made in his playing career, but you do typically see that little law from retirement to induction into the Hall of Fame. That's still going to be jokic's prime window. If they can make a run this season, I'm shocked, but we agree again this week going with the modern basketball card over Tom Brady. Well, to add to all of that,
Schlereth and Evans
"yo kitch" Discussed on Schlereth and Evans
"To come out with some kind of explanation. I'll tell you this. Rust doesn't seem to bothered by everything that's out there, being said about him because he posted a picture yesterday with Joe Montana and Sean Payton, him in the middle. And everyone smiling, Russ is smiling, Sean looks positively giddy, rust does not look like somebody who's carrying around the weight of the world by any means. By the way, if you follow Russ on on Twitter, I recommend you go to the picture just for the comments. The comments are very entertaining. As you can imagine, plenty of charity related comments in the comments section there for Russell's picture, but Russ, this is a case, I guess where Russ's ability to compartmentalize and just kind of go through life almost oblivious to what's being said. Seems to be serving him well. If your name is happy, if your name and your face are on it and that is going to be the name and the face that gets credit when it's reported that good things are done, then yes, when there is a question, that name and that face needs to stand up and answer questions about it. No question. You are absolutely right on that. All right, let's get you some. Is it just me? Is it just me or the nuggets looking at another second round exit? Yeah, I think that's, in my opinion, that's just you. I think this team, do I wish they had done more at the trade deadline? Yes. Did the Phoenix trade kind of rock me a little bit? Yes. But the nuggets have incredible chemistry. I am a little worried right now about Jamal Murray's other knee. Let's get that thing. Stabilized because he was playing lights out before this cropped up to the point where I wasn't even thinking about his surgically repaired knee anymore. But now it's the other knee that's given him some discomfort. That's a game changer. That has to be right. If he's not right, then you got no shot. Then you are looking at probably a second round exit. But assuming good health, I'll put the nuggets big three up against anybody and I'm not ready to crown Phoenix yet. Devin Booker's got injury issues right now. Chris Paul's like 62 and you're talking about four players that have about what 25 games to develop chemistry and to be this juggernaut that's going to just steamroll through the Western Conference playoffs. I've seen a lot of super teams, a lot of duos that have been a lot of trios that have been put together with the promise of delivering big things and they haven't. So I'm not ready to panic yet about the nuggets in the suns. Are you? No, there's no panic. It's likely a much more difficult path over the last three days what has happened than it would have been before. All of these trades, but they have a four game lead in the Western Conference. They absolutely unequivocally should be the number one seed in have home court throughout the west. The challenge is going to be how this bracket shakes out and how many of the other legit contending teams do they have to face on their road to the finals. So who doesn't want to see a Dallas Phoenix first round series? The way Dallas just clowned them last year and embarrassed them with Luca laughing at Devin Booker and now it would be Kevin Durant against Kyrie Irving. In the first round, if that happens, that's great news for the nuggets. Right? How many of the sons, the Mavericks, the clippers, I guess, go ahead and throw in the warriors. How many of those teams do they have to face on the way? Could you get Golden State in the first round? And then if you get by them, then you're talking about maybe getting Phoenix in the second round. You know, it might be one of those things that you're the author conference vinyls. You want to end the doubts all time about jokic and his greatness and where he stands in NBA history, you want to end the doubts, then go through a playoff run and beat curry, Luca, Durant, and Giannis and win a championship. That's how you do it. Right? Step up to the plate. And beat those four guys on your way to a title, the way Dirk did, right? When he beat Tim Duncan and he beat Kobe Bryant and he beat LeBron James right in one run, right? Do it the way he did, and then there will be no doubt remaining as to how great yo kitch is. It's going to be interesting to watch coming down the stretch, but I know last yesterday he didn't go great, didn't we wanted more at the trade deadline? And then they go out, they lay an egg yesterday, but come on, this team has been playing at a really exceptionally high level all season long. I think they've earned the benefit of the doubt that they're going to be there. They're going to be a tough out, and they are going to an all likelihood have home court advantage, and they've got the best home record in the NBA, and you're talking about a 7 game series, a game 7 being played here. I'll take my chances with that knowing I got the best player in the league and healthy Jamal Murray. That's the big wild card right now. Healthy Jamal Murray playing at a level that he was playing just before. He had to sit out these last couple games. I'll roll with that against pretty much anybody. Coming up, four down territory. Some of the NFL awards that were handed out yesterday. And is it time not to panic, but to start getting concerned about the avalanche? That's next. When your team is in hot water and you need a break from the play by play, bath fitter can install your tub or shower in just one day, and just like a coach, bath feathers in your corner offering a watertight seamless wall. 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Schlereth and Evans
"yo kitch" Discussed on Schlereth and Evans
"Stay in the sun where I'm fine good morning everybody happy Thursday. Thursday. Yes. And she never closer to up. AFC NFC championship weekend can't wait Sunday park myself on the couch. How good is that going to be? Are you going to do that? You haven't had a Sunday just, well, did you do it last Sunday? Did you just park on the couch? And watch football over the weekend? Yeah, yeah. Okay, good for you. All day serious. Good for you. Good for you. How are you doing? I'm doing. How's your birthday dinner? My birthday dinner was tremendous. Just housed a bunch of tacos. With the grandkids. My grandson made a mud course on his little his little high chair table. Out of beans with his really likes the cars, the movie cars. Lightning McQueen and Doc. And so he had like a whole, he's just running his cars through beans. Nice, yeah. Oh yeah, it was a mess. It was great. Sometimes when you look at kids doing isn't that part of you go, oh man, that looks fun. Yeah, look at it. I like to do that. I'd like to play with my food. Yeah, just as no. Not interested in the beans. But just funny. McQueen through the butt and the mud, the mud hole. So yesterday morning, late in the show, we were looking ahead to the nuggets, bucks game, with a lot of enthusiasm. Sure. Yo kitch, Yanis. Yeah. Showdown showed us. It's gonna be great. Two top two, in my opinion, the two best players in the NBA square enough. And then I looked at the line, I just happened to look at the line for the game and it was buck's -8. And I said to you, does that make any sense? That's weird. And come to find out the nuggets sat four starters, yogic, Murray, MPJ, and kentavious Caldwell Pope. Sent out the B squad. And predictably lost one O 7 9 9. Mark. The nuggets have become what we despise most about today's NBA. They are now a pick your loss, load management team. They're following suit. Yep. Is it smart? You get the number one record, right? That's the thing about it. I hate it. I hate when teams do it. And no longer can we mock players who come in here and sit on the second of a back to back or the first of a back to back. No longer can we mock LeBron James for Tapping out here? Because we've become that now. When you sit Nikola Jokić in a high profile matchup against Giannis, if I'm doing talk radio and Milwaukee this morning, first of all, soft. First of all, what happened to me? Secondly, it would be Nikola Jokić. Wow. What a wuss tapped out. Tapped out. Too scared. Too scared to go up against Giannis. That's what you'd be saying. And you'd be justified in saying that because those are the same things that we've been saying here for years. But now we've become that. To your question, yeah, it is smart. It is smart. It's such a long season. It's such a long grind. I even understand why they chose the Milwaukee game as the one to sit out all the guys because their rationale was probably New Orleans is a conference game. Sure. And of course it's probably the more important game because it's a conference game. So choose to play that one straight. And then we'll mail it in for the Milwaukee game. It was more physical back in the day. It was tougher back in the day. Nobody sat. There was no load management. So what's changed? Why do we have to, why is this the way it's become? Soft. It is soft. Because, well, it started this all started Greg Popovich is to blame. Because those great spurs teams who had veteran players, older players who just knew that every year they're going to be playing into June. They just looked at and said, we have to pick our spots during the course of a long season just to keep these guys fresh for the playoffs. So they would come into Denver on a second of a back to back and Popovich would sit Tim Duncan or Manu ginobili or Tony Parker and that was the idea behind it. But then it got out of control. And now it was all of a sudden teams that don't even have a chance to go into the NBA Finals. I haven't been to the NBA Finals or haven't gone through the long, long grind. They're just choosing to rest their players. And it's a problem, Adam silver, the commissioner of the NBA's admitted, it's an issue because you have whether it be fans who pay a lot of money for tickets, TV partners who spend a lot of money for TV rights and you get these games where you're promoting star players and they're sitting over there in street clothes. Yeah, one of the things you're going to have to do and this will be interesting to see how this happens. Whenever their next collective bargaining agreement is up, are there television that collective bargaining but their television agreement is up. Yeah. Because what ends up happening, I'll tell you what ends up happening on the on the television side. Let's say you're ESPN, for instance. And you have, you have a contract with the NBA, right? You promised your advertisers certain rating. So you say, hey man, we guarantee we guarantee a two share or whatever. And then all of a sudden, they've got a marquee game on a Saturday that's going to be nationally televised and three stars set out. So now all of a sudden they can't get that too rating because people tune out. So now they've got a 1.6 rating or whatever it is at 1.4 rating. And what ends up happening is they have to do a bunch of make good commercials. So they have to give their advertisers a bunch of free commercials. Eventually what's going to happen is they're going to say, if we don't meet our ratings in those situations, because you guys choose to do load management, then that is going to come out of your television contract. Ultimately, the biggest takeaway from the nuggets doing what they did last night is it is a good sign because it means they have now arrived as a team. That expects to be playing into late May in June. And when you got a guy like Nikola Jokić, you carries such a burden and plays so many heavy minutes and will be counted on and playing exceptionally heavy hard minutes in the playoffs. All right, so then you do this stuff and so it's a sign of how the nuggets view themselves. Which is actually a good thing. So they have expectations. That means you should have expectations. That means there's expectations on the organization, which means if you don't make the NBA Finals,
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"yo kitch" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Go for 40. I'll pass you the ball. And bird and magic the same kind of thing. That's why it's fun to think about and those two guys, like Jordan, I would say it's kind of an underrated pass or two in that sense. You'd keep some of the ball movement, but you get the big finishes. It'd be an offensive Nirvana, for sure. That would be the O one Kobe argument too. The most athletic. I would rather have ADH Jordan, but that would be the same kind of thing. Two more, two more, I was thinking in the curry spot. O 7 Nash, just from the IQ stuff, I think he could hang with those guys. And then I can't believe I'm saying this. I hope I don't get struck by lightning. 2016 Kyrie Irving. That was on the list. I was like, okay, okay. We talk about that. So I was thinking about how Jamal Murray clicks with jokic. And who is the best possible version of the stuff Jamal Murray is good at? And the answer is actually Kyrie. Like he's a 50 40 90 incredible handle. And never really played with anybody like yo kitch. And I just think if you put 2016 Kyrie with jokic for like a week, it would be pretty amazing. I wouldn't want maybe one 6 years of it, but if you're just talking about a couple games, that would be fun. And then the only other one I had was 2017 Durant. Because we saw him fit into the framework of an unselfish team and it was kind of better than anyone thought, but he also has the ability and all these years later is still does of if you need two points, he can get it. He can run the four. He can just kind of fit in, does need the ball, the ball moves with him. And I think he's another one that would be a fun one. But I think my final answer is, I think my final answer is 22 curry
The Lowe Post
"yo kitch" Discussed on The Lowe Post
"$1 million guy. Like they don't overpay players here. They, as you said, they draft. I mean, they've got the secret sauce to draft them. They really do. I mean, as far as what they've been able to do in the past, as far as finding guys who are not projected in the mocks to go high and they don't care, you know, I've projected 45th. We're going to take them at 25. They also trade up just in case. Yeah, so I think that's the big thing. I think it's great. Last night, they Milwaukee by 30 41. That was a competitive game for zero seconds. The bucks did not care. The grizzlies punched them in the face, like the grizzlies. The grizzlies open every game by punching you in the face. And you have to decide, do we feel like playing tonight or not? And on a Thursday night on national TV, the bucks were like, yeah, we're good. We'll just lay down. I knew it was gonna be when Brooke started taking Lopez took like three threes like back to back to back and it was like, okay, I think this one's gonna get out of hand. It was only 14 8 at the time. And by the way, keep the NASA's attentive combo away from John morant and all other stars who like to fly in there because that dude, look, he's an NBA player. He's better at his thing than I will ever be at any of my things. But he's playing like a hybrid of football and rugby and basketball out there and he had a little thing with morant in midair last night where morant fell on the floor. Nothing happened. Keep him away. Yeah, I mean, I think so going back there. I'm sorry, I'm a little hyped up today, Bobby. You're going to get bang back, you're going to get Danny Green back. So the big question for them will be, do you trust that group of Fords come a Western Conference Finals? A Western Conference semifinals, like game 5 on the road, right? Where you're going to need the roddy Williams, aldama grouping there. And can you swap one of them out for more of an establishment player? Because I agree with you, man. This Western Conference is wide open for the taking. And that framing is true, but also undersells the grizzly. The grizzlies are just awesome. The west doesn't have to be wide open for them to have a chance at it. They're an awesome, awesome team. Yeah, I was in Wendy's calm that comes out Tuesday. I'm actually going to write some different, but I was thinking like, and I don't want to discredit what San Antonio has done, you know, prior to the last couple of years, as far as that great run, right? I mean, the championship Memphis hasn't won a championship here. But they started to remind me a little bit like San Antonio ish because of how they've drafted. They develop. They've stood injuries. They kind of plug and play. They know kind of guys that, you know, with that fit within their system here, you know, certainly a little bit, but they've drafting as far as how they built that this roster. Yeah, I mean, they got a little lucky jaw as far as moving up from where they worked. You know, at two. But I mean, Jaron Jackson, we can make all MBA defensive probably. I mean, you look in the box stores and I wrote today. He's missed 14 games. So he's only played like 12 or 13. He's not in the defensive player of the year conversation because of that. It's time to put him in now. I think he's been better than brook Lopez. When he's played, he just hasn't played. I think he's been maybe the best defensive player in the whole league this year when he's been on the floor. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, but I do think, yeah, you could say the window will be open, you know, we said that for bad Denver. I mean, a couple injuries here and there, but they're, you know, they're a good team here, but Denver, Denver, nobody's talking about Denver. No. They are the sweeping giant right now of the NBA. They're 17 and ten, they're third in the west, they're second and offense. Yo kitch is having an MVP level season again. There are 28th in defense, so they've got to figure out what the hell is going on there and who they should play and how much they need to play lineups with three of their good defenders on the floor instead of two. I'm going to do a Denver thing next week, so I don't want to belabor it now, but they're got no they haven't got nothing from Michael Porter junior. I mean, their backcourt their depth is bones and Christian Brown. Right? With Bruce Brown and the starting line who's played great. Anyway, I don't know why how we got there. Yeah, but they're not one of my 5. Picking up, get me Memphis, get me Kuzma to Memphis and I'll be happy 'cause Memphis is ready. Memphis is ready and roddy, big body roddy. Maybe he's ready. I don't know, maybe. I love those guys who play in the pre draft camp. Like he's one of those kids who played like the actual 5 on 5, not just going one on O. Like him, Jalen Williams, Santa Clara, Jalen Williams. He's good, man. Those guys played. We can't let these teams have two guys with the same name, even if it's spelled differently. This is going to be how many years it's going to be year 6 of big man jail and William. Anyway, pick your team for me. Atlanta. Oh, I'm so glad you brought up Atlanta. I'm watching the Orlando game the other night when they're down what was it like 54 28 and I texted it with a team and I said, this is a kind of game that gets a coach fired. And I don't think Nate was going to get fired, but that like that game. And I know you've got no Murray and Collins, but that you are a basically a. Luck, not a luck shot, but a tip in shot against the Chicago Bulls from being on a major league skid here here. Atlanta, man, they are funky. I mean, when you don't get good tray, man, I don't know what to say. They're there have not been good at all here. And that's a team that went when you go all in, basically in the Murray trade and trade away a lot of draft picks. I don't know what to tell you. I mean, you know, it would be good for them as Kevin herder. I mean, but that was a luxury tax dump to get out of the money there, but they are for me, I've got them circled as far as one of those teams. I mean, from certainly we're going to hear about John Collins. We're going to hear about the other Bogdanovich. We texted before the one guy you said, okay. Here it comes. Here it comes. He said, put a list together. Portray young. We're probably a year away. We are. We're 6 months, 7 months away from it. From the fake Trae Young trades becoming real podcast fodder, but this team funky is the right word. Funky is the right. I talked about them a little bit with verno last week. They were in New York last week for two games. Something is wrong with their team. I think multiple things at multiple levels are just fundamentally wrong with their team. And they're 14 and 15. Minus two per game point differential. That's just bad. Like you're just a bad team. At that point, differential. And they have talent. Murray and young, the numbers are okay together. The style, the eye test is not the do people love train with playing with Trae Young buzz, just never stops. Who's actually making the decisions here, stuff never stops. Why did we give up too much for digital Murray? I said the day of that trade. I think I had pelt on. I didn't like that trade for Atlanta. I thought that was too much for dejante Murray and too much to pair two guards together. And they haven't had Bogdanovich for a lot of the season. Capella is hurt. Now it's a big deal for them. Collins has been hurt despite the fact he's always on the trade block. He's a really good player. And that's a big deal for them. Something is just funky there. And you know, a lot of these teams I've mentioned this before that trade a boatload of picks, Minnesota being the prime example, I think, bet at some point, we can get those picks back
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Nikola Jokic notches triple-double as Nuggets top Warriors
"Nikola Jokić didn't let a sore wrist prevent him from recording a triple double as the nuggets topped the warriors one 28 one 23 The Denver center provided 26 points 12 rebounds and ten assists despite a taped wrist Yo kitch also had a key rebound in the closing seconds before sinking two free throws to clinch the win We had so many defensive defensive mistakes and they had a couple easy layups backdoor cuts or whatever and we didn't rebound well Bruce Brown finished with 20 points and Michael Porter junior added 17 for the winners Stephen Curry scored 34 points for the warriors who committed 19 turnovers that led to 30 points I'm Dave ferry
Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"yo kitch" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"I want to talk about embiid because when I first thought about this list, however many weeks or months ago now, I thought I was going to put in bead over jokic. And I talked about this with what I talked about with the text in you guys. And pina was making fun of me for it, even though I think peanuts and methodology is equally stupid. And he was like so and so made all NBA last year, I said, I don't care, man. I just was thinking if I, if I want to win a basketball game right now, or if I want to win a championship game next season, and I have the entire pool of NBA players in front of me and what order would I pick them? That was genuinely how I decided I wanted to make my list this year. And I was thinking about embiid versus yo kitch. And again, you said permanent production like a jokic average three less points than be last year, but I think four more assists. I mean, unquestionably, I think carried, you know, it might not bear out in usage, but the burden he carried considering the injuries on his team, what he was able to get out of that Denver roster was remarkable, and I wrote about this. I think he has complete mastery of offensive basketball right now. He's a true quarterback on the floor. I'm talking about yo kitchen. At the same time, you think about what embiid is has a paint protector, he's kind of like an automatic top ten defense. He doesn't get talked about in the way that like Gobert does, but I'd rather have him bead. Even on the defensive end of the floor, and I was like, how am I not tipping the scales in his favor? And I came back to jokic just 'cause the guys went back to back MVPs for a reason. You know, all those offensive reasons I listed was, was it, again, was that an easy thing for you to separate and be it in jokic? Because I think that's a debate that's going to continue for the rest of their careers. And depending on who wins MVPs, et cetera, the defense is going to come into play that's obviously a big talking point. How did you separate those guys? Because I eventually came back to jokic just because of, you know, the durability is a big one as well. I mean, he's never played. I was looking it up. You know, jokic has never played less than 72 games in a season, and the only time he played 72, that was the max number of games. That was the COVID shortened year in 21. So how did you separate those guys? What were some of the reasoning for you? So for me, it wasn't, it wasn't that big of a debate for me. I think just on a base level where I do agree with Michael from the standpoint of it not being that closed is that if you had MVP the last two years, like I did and I think a lot of us did. And you're not putting him in your top two. At worst top three, it's kind of like, well, how much do you or do you not value the regular season? And the idea of health, which if you're weighing that in, I have the last couple of years.
The Rich Eisen Show
"yo kitch" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"Two time Finals MVP, as he's been hurt, he's an all time great player. And I think jokic is just a notch below. You'd rather have jokic as your number two. I don't even like playing the one, two, three game of NBA because it is such an such a team sport. But I just think he's got such a unique set of skills that it's almost too unique. It's not complimentary in a way, and that you have to run through him. It's like with mellow. You had there's so, so incredible at what they do and how they do it. They can't necessarily play another way. So who is the perfect running mate for Joker that would get them over the top in your mind? Is it someone like dame who also has a very unique skill set that they need to be paired together to have a shot? Do they even come out of the west if somehow dame and Joker played on the same team? Oh, I would like a combo guard who's better than Jamal Murray. I know Jamal Murray is really good, but let's give me like I also haven't seen Jamal Murray play in two years. Availability. Schizophrenia. And are you expecting him to come back better off the injury? I hope he does. I'm sure he's going to have a great career, but he has never been an all star. There's a notch below. There's levels to this. Like we're talking about, Damian Lillard is an upgrade from Jamal Murray. If you go through the NBA on the heat, who would you rather have in jokic? Would you rather have Jimmy Butler on your team or would you rather have yoga? Daniel kitchen? I'd rather have, I'd rather have Jimmy Butler on my team. I'd rather have a Joker, to be honest with you. I guess it depends on how my team is made up, but if we're trying to win a test this year, who do you want on your team, you want Jimmy Butler, you want jokic. Jimmy beller. You want your boy Tatum or you want yo kitch? Oh man, good one. Well, Tatum was there. I'll take Tatum. You want Giannis? Or you want yogurt? I want Yanis over everyone. You want embiid or jokic? TJ, I know you love embiid. I mean, for me, I can't really answer that question, because I'm obviously going to take this extra span out of the conversation. In Brooklyn, you want Katie, or you want jokic. Kevin Durant. She's so far in the E 7 name like 6, 7 guys. And I'm taking all the east guys even though joker's MVP. Aside from butler, I think you're not going to get much pushback obviously with you on this. Some people would take Joker over and be a lot of people would take them over Tatum. He's a once in a generation. Luca would rather have Luca. I'm not sure they have Lucca. At this stage in his career, maybe two years ago, I'd rather have Paul George. I don't know, I think Paul George, I love Paul George. But I think I'd rather have you okay. Devin Booker, I think I'd rather have Devin Booker. Interesting. So the MVP is what? The 15th best player you'd want on your team is kind of weird. It's very weird. That's what I'm saying. That's what's weird about it, guys. And it's all love, like I said, the man is incredible, a unique set of skills. Let's call him the Liam Neeson of the NBA, right? He's taken. He's got such a unique set of skills. However, I think they're so unique that there's a limitation to them. I don't think that he can take the nuggets over the top as the best player on a championship team. Wow. You're going to get pushed back on that. Push back on it. People are going to tell you he was good enough to be the MVP of the league, but he can't be the MVP of a championship team. So we see it happen all the time. It's happened a lot in NBA history. Well, we saw there was an argument. Westbrook won the MVP and lost in the first round, but in 5 games. Exactly. And that was one of the way the argument this year, though, that our friend mclovin was having because he's a sixers fan as well. A lot of people in thought and B should have been MVP. And he was saying, look, so the MVP of the league can't get out of the first round. What does that say? Should he have won the award? What do you guys think about that? I mean, it is a regular season award, and what he did in the regular season was amazing. He did not have his two best teammates as we talked about yesterday. Absolutely. No, I mean, injuries have defined the NBA postseason historically. There have always been moments throughout time where key injuries have caused the doors of fate to open in a different direction, if you will. Absolutely. Not just NBA, but and it's been unfortunate for jokic so last two seasons to have guys down at key times in the year. All right, does that mean, I don't know, what do you want to say? He has guys injured. Everyone has guys injured. When the warriors lost the finals to the raptors, these Kawhi Leonard, not a champion because KD and clay were out. No, you knock Steph for that? No, it's just part of the game. And honestly, Michael Porter junior is a solid player, but Yanis didn't have Chris Middleton, a made guy in the league. Michael Porter junior is not a made guy on any level in the league. That's true. Right? Chris Middleton is, he's an Olympian. He's an all star. Giannis goes out there and hustle play off series and takes his team deep and I don't know, I'm a big fan of so many of these guys and I understand why Denver fans love their jokic. He's their guy, but I'm telling you it's fools gold. I'm telling you, I'm telling you it's not gonna work out. We'll see. All right, lots to get into this week on the show, but today it's gonna be a big golf show, 'cause we got Halley ledbetter and Chris Solomon. He's from no laying up, which is a great podcast. I love the no laying up brand. We've got Steve weissman, I'm gonna break down all the stuff that happened out at Wimbledon. And then we got Dee Dee Richards from the W from the New York liberty checking in at 11 o'clock here on the West Coast. So big show Ben lines in for rich. This is the rich eisen show. Every golf equipment company claims to be longer off the tee, right? But Callaway, they've got the new rogue
Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"yo kitch" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"That was only one of the crazy games last night. Memphis, Minnesota, one of the funniest playoff losses. I'm very sorry, but one of the funniest playoff losses I can remember in a long time and I've been watching playoff basketball religiously for well over a decade now and just can not remember a game like that I mean we can start with towns who had now out of the four kind of postseason games between the plane and the first three games of this round. He's had one good game and three kind of like hey man, you gotta wake up a little bit. What did you what did you take away from that game last night? What kind of stuck with you the most? Well, yeah, it's hard not to start with when you look at a team that they're offense just goes lifeless for two quarters of the game two quarters. I can't remember the last time I saw two quarters where team scored less than 15 points and each quarter two 12 point quarters in a game. And still scored 95 points with those two horrible quarters. So they were scoring a lot and the other two, the first thing you're going to look at when you get that level of production or lack of production is your star. And when you're star takes four shots, I have questions. I've got questions, man. And. It's not acceptable. And he was asked about it after the game, and he said next question. So when you talk about accountability, I hope he said more than that to his teammates, granted, there's been foul trouble, granted that I think he's been facing a sort of defense that he's not great against, which frankly a lot of bigs that are still trying to figure it out have that issue. I think about someone like porzingis, who lo and behold, what the team that he was with, you know, for the last few years anymore, in part because of it, not really being able to back down smalls. And it always kind of makes me think, my analogies are really bad, and they feel like the elephants that are afraid of mice. And maybe it's not being afraid of it, but not being able to take advantage of a situation saying, I'm bigger. And by the way, there was that situation yesterday on inside the NBA where he was like, when he got so when you're banging a guy. Incredible TV show. The other night during the Celtics nets game, they were just like, yeah, number 11 on Boston. Shaq was like, I'd never seen that guy before. It's like him in number 12 had a great game. I love that show. It's perfect. Look, I think people assume if you're pro analytics or that you believe in understand analytics that you're gonna hate inside the NBA. I don't hate it. It's too funny to hate. And I think it speaks to, I think more people are probably outside of the weeds when it comes to analytics and it connects with people for a reason. It's funny television. Most of the time, every now and then I think it an area that's a little bit unfortunate. But anyway, that was funny. But yeah, there's something to be said for that. The towns has not been able to take advantage of that. By the way, can I just say that I think Carl Anthony towns might be like the worst complainer that I've ever seen? Like, he complains about fouls that are the clearest fouls I've ever seen. He hooks people three and four times on one play, and then he complains. He is like, he is fouling. Like there have been too many fouls in this first round. And some of these games have been very frustrating, but no, he is foul ling with a capital G at the end. Like that man is fouling, okay? It was just, and I feel for him a little bit because, you know, he's playing with guys on the wing who are little headstrong between Beverly Russell and Edwards. So obviously, there's always an element to big men where because they don't dribble the ball, the floor, you know, 9 times out of ten unless you're yo kitch or Giannis, you're a little bit dependent on your teammates to give you looks. I think, you know, he mentioned like our offense was working really well at times, even when I wasn't scoring because I'm drawing the double and kicking it out, et cetera, but he's got a way to he's got to find a way to stem the tide, stop the run, et cetera. What Memphis did late in that third quarter going into the fourth was and you look at Jon didn't have a great game scoring wise. But you know, he was able to impact the game in a way that towns was hot and I just, do you think Minnesota can come back from a loss like that in a series? I think there's probably more, there's a better likelihood that people are giving it. I think in part because it's a young enough team to where I wrote about the series earlier in the week in my newsletter. And I think part of what's so striking to me is like these teams, rationale that I use to kind of write about them is that these teams are so young that they kind of, they're breaking all the rules and don't even really know it. As far as the pace they play at as far as guys being under the age of 22 and dropping 30 in their first playoff game against each other. Stuff like that. Where they're so young, they don't know any better. Now, obviously, they've got a couple of vets in their rotation and you're mentioning Beverly in particular. I don't know how people view Russell at this point whether he's a vet or not. 'cause I guess I forget that he and towns were, I guess, part of the same draft class too. So I guess they're vets, you know, towns has been to the playoffs before, you know, you kind of use the quotation mark, where it's not something that they've done a whole lot before. But I do think that there's enough youth on this roster and quite frankly Memphis as well to make the argument that it might not really sit within their soul as long as we're expecting it to and be so detrimental. Now it could. I think the bigger question is just, are they going to be prone to have droughts generally? Even from quarter to quarter, when certain guys sit, I think the bigger question that I have about a team like the wolves is, okay, if towns is not going to be consistent for you as far as staying out of foul trouble as far as shooting enough and really doing enough for your offense, are there other things you're going to be able to do to keep yourself in it? The Timberwolves were a team that, you know, I won't say they lived and died with the three, but they certainly thrived with it. And they did not shoot a good percentage. They did not take a whole lot of them. Considering how frequently they relied upon them and everything. So that's a basic question I have. They didn't make as many as Memphis did. But I could tell you what will not happen if they're going to win or come back in the series. They can't allow Brandon Clark to kill them the way he did yesterday, not just an offensive rebounding standpoint, but also scoring it. And when you talk about John, how he really didn't have a great game, it kind of was made irrelevant by the fact that Desmond Bain and Brandon Clarkson was up the way they did. And now we've seen a structural change in the lineup to where Steven Adams isn't even in the game at all. He's not going to play at all. So some of the things that you were leaning on for an advantage before or had been taken off the table. So it's going to take towns really can not afford to have games where he's going to shoot four times or be inconsistent Val trouble. He needs to use to his advantage. The other thing too, by the way, is that jaren Jackson was in foul trouble too in towns by being in the foul trouble. He was in and also just not.
The Lowe Post
"yo kitch" Discussed on The Lowe Post
"Good at it too. Yeah. They suck you into the lane. They suck you away from those guys and then boom, it's a handoff for the greatest shooter that's ever played or maybe the second greatest shooter that's ever played and you're just dead and they're gonna run yoga through that kind of ringer all the time and you don't catch by the way is become a solid defender and is yeah, he's good. There's just no center who is equipped to deal with that all that well. Including DeMarcus cousins who I just don't know how they're gonna play DeMarcus cousins in this series because it was just a bloodbath for him when he was against the warriors. But the one thing I would say is if you're looking at how con Denver win it would be destroying the warriors on the glass when either caban or draymond's out. I do think there's susceptible. There were some games I watched this year and rewatched recently where they couldn't get a rebound. Like Denver was just playing volleyball with it. It looked like JV versus varsity on the glass. I think ultimately Golden State will fight. This is a team that knows how to win. Denver is prone to turn the ball over. And if golden states back to being Golden State, their speed on defense and their intelligence. It's not just speed on the ground. It's also speed in their brains. Their mind speed, I think that's going to be a problem. Then we're just going to throw the ball around and lose it. And you can't be going state if they're getting run outs and running the cuisinart in the half court. That's that double barreled gun is a problem for Denver. Which they know going in. They can't turn them all over. Yeah, I just, there's certain you nailed a couple of the kind of mathematical advantages or whatever. Turnovers is one Denver's 26th and turnover 8. Like third or 5th worst in the NBA, it turned the ball over and the warriors force a lot of turnovers. That's bad. For Denver, the warriors fall a lot, they actually are 26 in an opponent free throw rate. They've put guys on the line on it. Denver doesn't get to the line. They're a bottom ten free throw team. Can they even take advantage of that warrior weakness? The warriors, God bless the warriors. They still throw the goddamn ball around the floor all the time. Steph is still gonna give you one lefty behind the back pass to nobody every game. There are 29th turnover rate on offense. Only the rockets are worse. But guess what? Denver's 27th enforcing turnovers on defense, like they're not gonna be able to leverage that. And I think to your point, the warriors know how to get enough rebounds when it really, really matters. And so I don't worry so much about Denver really exploiting them on the glass. You want to hear just an absolutely crazy stat. Yeah, now I got one for you too. In a 129 minutes with curry pool and clay on the floor, the warriors are plus 96. And last year with pool curry and draymond on the floor, it was similar to that. It was like plus a million. There's a lot of evidence that pool and curry is really, really hard to deal with when they're surrounded by the right kinds of players, which makes me very interested in how much we see in this series and going forward because I am assuming they win, Steph, clay, pool, draymond, and whoever the 5th guy is, is it Wiggins? Is it sometimes Iguodala? Is it sometimes Porter and if we see those lineups like who is jokic guarding? Is he guarding draymond and then at the center of all these actions? Do they try and hide them on Wiggins? They try and hide them on Andre Porter. I don't know what you do, but those lineups are very, very powerful and I will end by saying this and you can take it from here. I've said all year, I never wavered. That the warriors are the biggest threat to the Phoenix Suns in the Western Conference and have a chance to win the whole damn thing. Obviously there have been a pile of ifs atop that if step is healthy, if draymond gets back from injury and time looks like himself, if clay is 90% of old clay by the playoffs, if Andre Iguodala starts playing again and plays well and blah blah blah. I still believe all of that is true and it looks to me like enough of those ifs are gonna flip their way. Like draymond looks fine. Clay, I've not really gotten the scrutiny or criticism he's taken for like hunting shots or this and that clay to me from day one has looked amazing considering what he's coming back from and is getting better and better every game. Steph will see, but the fact that he's practicing and scrimmaging and it's optimistic to play game one makes me happy. I think this team is a championship threat. I was on them before the season started hammering the over. I still think they're the biggest threat to Phoenix in the west. And this series to me, yo kitch is a problem all into himself, but to me this is almost like an ideal were clearly the better team. We have time to get our footing, hopefully not under like must win elimination game kind of pressure. I think this is a potentially good starting point for a really dangerous team. I completely agree. Steve Kerr and staff will scheme up a way to make sure no one but jokic really gets off because you can't guard them. But to pick up on your comment, your staff, I got one for you. And we're on the same side here. So we know about the old famous death lineup for the warriors. How is this lineup? Curry pool, Thompson, Wiggins, and loony,.
The NBA Show
"yo kitch" Discussed on The NBA Show
"So outside of those three, yo kids and Gordon and will Barton, the leaders and minutes played this year, Monty Morris, Jeff Green, Austin rivers, bow Thailand, PJ Dozier, composer, who I like to call the pizziolo. Brin Forbes, like Zeke naji, what are we doing? What are we doing here? These guys are not only firmly implanted in the playoffs. They have been a really respectable team. Outside of jokic, who we're going to get into the yoke of it all this year, what surprised you, I'm about to nuggets in the ways that they're able to succeed this year. Well, I mean, honestly, I know we're going to get to them, but this is one of the things about jokic that I think people have to understand. His best talent or one of his best talents is how well he figures out what other guys are good at and tailors his game to those guys. So it's this team was not built to play the way they did this year. The team had to on the fly and be like, okay, what ingredients do we have? What are we good at? What are we weak at? All right, let's adjust sometimes game by game and sometimes possession by possession. Like how do we adjust to figure out what this is? So you just ran through that list of guys and like Monte morsa really good backup point guard. Low mistake. But he's not like, he's not creating a bunch of shots for people, you know, or like, nobody's like, he's not like the front line of any scouting report. But he does have some talent, so yolks had to adjust the two man game to now be a Monte jokic two man game. Jeff Green's good, but he's old. So he's got some good play. You know, he could play well, but I think he's actually played the 5th most minutes of anybody on this roster at age 36. So I don't like the guys are good. I don't want to sit here and be like, these guys aren't good. It's just that it's not a roster you would have put together if you were building a roster. It's just a roster that was left standing after the first week of the season. Boogie cousins says emerged as a key cog in what they're doing on a night tonight basis again. This guy was kind of out of the league and pretty much finished Mike Malone's like, all right, let's bring this dude in. And figure these things out. And I think that's what's sort of struck me this whole season. You know, you talk about Denver being under the radar because they're not seen as interesting because two of the three best players have not been able to hit the floor, but it's hard for me not to compare and contrast them to a team that's gotten a lot of ink in a lot of air time. The Los Angeles Lakers who like talk about the injuries and all of that stuff. That team was expected to compete and achieve some level of success this year and have done nothing and to watch your kids elevate this group in the way that he has is just remarkable. Yeah. And it's funny the Lakers you bringing them up though, 'cause it's tough, man. Like, I've seen some people make some weird, you know, yo kitch, LeBron comparisons. LeBron back in 2008, 9, a guy gets hurt or team's not great. He's pushing through. He's doing these incredible things. At this stage of his career, I think we all know he looked at the year and was like, yeah, this ain't it. I can't do that. He can't push delonte west and booby Gibson to the NBA Finals. Right. Like that's just not happening. Those guys are playing 30 something minute to game on an NBA Finals team, okay? He's not 24 years old anymore. Right. He's old enough now to be like, I'm not doing this to myself. I'm gonna save my ears or what have you, but yeah, that is what the, that is really what the nuggets have done this year and kind of been their mind frame. They started off so bad. You were mentioning guys that have played the most minutes. It's funny you said PJ Dozier, he only played 18 games this year yet. He's one of the top minutes guys for the nuggets this year, which is just crazy. So yeah, I mean, I don't know, this team, the best thing I could say about them is, again, they know they're not gonna win the title. I mean, yolks basically all come out and said, I don't know how good we are. I don't know what we can do, but we're just gonna see. We're gonna see what the best thing that can happen this year. And, you know, to get to hit their over 47 and a half was their pre season over, which, you know, that included Murray coming back. That included Michael Porter being healthy and yet neither of those things happen and here we are is, you know, it's a nice little minor win. You know, it's a small one. It's not a great one. I guess it's a moral victory of a season. So, look, and I do need to get. We do need to get to the yoke of it all, 'cause I think there's a lot to unpack here. And I picked him as my MVP about two weeks ago and I was just like to me, we talk about LeBron like, yeah, this reminds me of a LeBron thing where it's like, I do everything. I do everything. I scorn isolation. I am your best playmaker as far as being the de facto point guard. I'm our team's best rebounder..
Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"yo kitch" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"Statistically, when yo kitch is on the floor, I have these numbers right in front of me. The nuggets are a 62 win team. According to cleaning the glass, when jokic plays, when he is off the floor, they are a 17 win team. That 45 game difference is by far the biggest differential among all players in the NBA. No one touches that. And beads is plus 29. Onto Takuma's is plus 25. Again, yogic just plus 45. You look up and down. I know all the advanced stats point in yoga's direction. He became the first player in NBA history last night to grab a thousand rebounds score 2000 points and dish out 500 assists in a season. First player ever to do that. Oscar Robertson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, will Chamberlain, Kevin Garnett, these players have all come close. LeBron James, no one has ever done that before. And like, I just, yeah, I don't know what the nuggets of one 48 games. The sixers have won 49 games, like the seating argument, the I don't care about MVP. MVP needs to win X amount of games or being exceeding. It's like, okay, no, absolutely not. Sorry. So I just, I look at. I mean, there's just countless ways to look at it. And I always come back to jokic is the best player in the league and the most valuable to his team. And there is no one on the nuggets who is as close to as good as tyrese maxi. There's no one on the nuggets who is as close to as good as Seth curry, sorry to Aaron Gordon. That might be you could make a little bit of an argument there, but I think Seth curry is better. James Harden, I mean, as poorly as he's played as disappointing as he's played, like, come on,.
Game Theory Podcast
"yo kitch" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"It's one 17 to one 15. The box defense is two points better at one O 7, than joker's nuggets defenses when he's on the court at one O 9. The impact there is almost negligible. And you know what, like one other thing I do want to mention with yo kitch as well defensively. He is very clearly the captain out there. Like you watched the way that they kind of communicate. The watch the way that they are moving around out there rotating. He's the guy that's kind of captaining it out there. He's the one that's kind of pulling the strings and holding it together. He's a legitimately like he's not a elite defender. I wouldn't even say that like he is in the 80th percentile or higher defender in the NBA, but he's somewhere in that 65 to 75 range, I think. He's easily legit positive defender now. Yeah. And the gap between him and Yanis is still monstrous. Yes. Which matters, except for that the box defense hasn't been elite. That to me is like, maybe the counter draw here is just like, well, look. And I'm making the other argument here. On the same token, you can also go like, well, look, Joker may have been a better defender of the season. They may be actually 60 to 7 percentile. The nuggets defense still sucks. So he's not actually impacting anything on that end anyway, because nobody on Denver can stop anything at the point of attack. And they need somebody who's better at room protection than what Nikola Jokić can be. Like they need Rudy Gobert in order for that defensive work because that's how terrible their point of attack the defense is. So all of this evens out, to me, if it's Giannis, if it's Joker, the arguments to me really do negate and it winds up being like either one, I'm okay with. I'm good with either one. I think it does need to be one of those two guys. If it's Joel, I'm gonna be like, not what I think should have happened, but a perfectly reasonable choice. If it's joker or if it's Yan, so I'm gonna be like completely worthy in the MVP. Those were the two guys this season that I point to. Over the entire course of it. A lot of it with Joker gets into those advanced metrics that are always kind of like I did this the other day where I looked up all three of their individual stat lines for thresholds of not using anything complicated, just points rebounds assists. You brought this up on Twitter earlier. This is a really good one. And all three of them are having historic seasons. Nobody's ever had the points rebounds and assist mark that joker has had. Not.
The Rich Eisen Show
"yo kitch" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"It. You know that you know the jets are gonna reach for somebody else anyway. Oh, stop. No, they're gonna take him. No, it's all coming together. Oh, baby. What's coming together? The end of my career? Oh, I mean the jets finally. Richard career just getting started. Thank you. I'm trying to be optimistic for you. Very good. Hey, hey, last night. Be honest had a night. You could say that. And Giannis had a week. Could you make this case? You make this case. And I asked two thirds of the rich eisen show basketball podcast for all podcasts can be acquired. Adam chud win, who is the guy who says hello. He has you at hello when you call to the rich Ozzy church. He's the call screener, okay? And so he and the two of you talk about this every single week. Episodes drop every Wednesday. We're all podcasts can be acquired. You could make the case that at the beginning of this week, Giannis was not the most valuable player of the NBA. Correct. You can make a case that he was, but you could also make a case that he wasn't like that this was an MB yo kitch, two man race, just because you know voters are like, hey, how did it last? Well, yoga category last year, Giannis had won two. That's correct. Right. Or that embiid had the edge because jokic had it last year. Right, exactly. Right. So Giannis is the MVP now. Is that what you believe? I gotta say, rich, just the week that he's had, and in more importantly, it was against who he had it against, right? So this week he played Philadelphia and dropped 40 and 14, including the game winning block of MB to seal that victory on the road, then goes to then plays against Brooklyn, goes to Brooklyn. Last night, and just took over 44 and 14. Down ten late Kyrie's first home game. Harry's first home game, Durant didn't have, didn't have a huge game, but Durant was cooking in the second half, Kyrie was doing his thing first home game. And Giannis hits the game tying three to send it to overtime. That was amazing. And then hits the game winning free throw. Free throw. Free throw. Free throws, Giannis had a great night at the line. I think because of the opponents, the back to back 40s, passing Kareem on the all time bucks list. I mean, look Giannis started yesterday. 17 to one to an MVP. After last night's game, he's 6 to one. So I just think that was the best odds or not the best. It's still embiid, but I just think yoga is just that he's done it. Is to assist per game shy of averaging a triple double and there's done it without two of his better teammates. Jamal Murray and Michael Porter junior and embiid with all the things that's been going on in Philadelphia, the Ben Simmons, and then the trade and then he didn't say anything either. He pointed that out quite a bit that he could have inflamed the situation. So I turned to team embiid over there and say, what say you? What do you think? Look, man, you know me, I'm a Homer when it comes to these things, but I'm also a basketball fan and I love embiid. He's my favorite player, but my goodness, man. When you watch with this freak from Greeks, does. Beyond impressive, I can remember three, four years ago, when we would say man, if you're honest, could just learn how to shoot a 17 footer, he'd be hard to stop. This man's doing step back threes over 7 footers. And plus he ends, he starts every postgame presser with a dad joke. I mean, he's just, he's rolling right now, and you know, like I said, I personally would love him to win this, but if it comes out, your honor, this is your MVP. I'm just going to apply it because of 19 from the foul line last night. How about that? Just getting it done. Remember last year. When everyone's counting. 15 wasn't the number of made free throws, it was the number of seconds he took just to attempt a free throw. Now, he's actually been better with that this year. Obviously, no doubt. So everything that we said the guy couldn't do or needed to improve, he now has improved her can do. I don't know how you stop him. Every year it seems like he adds an element to his game because he knows what the people are saying about him about what he needs to improve on. And look, I said this in our RES hoops chat with Adam and TJ. I don't think it's, I don't think it's hyperbole. We're talking about a guy who could win three, four MVPs, and three, four championships when it's all said and done. And if he does, we're looking at a guy who's top 8, top 6 top 5 all time. He's gonna pass a team. He's gonna pass Shaq. Like, we're watching one of the greatest players of all time right now, and I think accept it. There's no stop in the freight train. All I gotta say is making it a little bit about myself right here. He went on this run as soon as I said that he shouldn't trade for him. And so you're welcome, you're welcome, you know? I clearly lit the fire underneath. And what about this one? Yeah, you did. What about this one though? How come we're not naming a player on the team that's got 62 wins? And every single guy that we've talked about so far, none of them, the sixers? The bucks? Have as many W's as Memphis. How come we're not talking about morant anymore? How come we're not talking about Booker or why not? The problem with morant rich and we talk about this a lot on the podcast is for as great of a season as jaws having, Memphis is, I believe, 18 or 19 and two without him in the line. So that kind of hurts your argument. Missed a lot of games. You missed a lot of games a lot of games and they have played their level of play hasn't dropped with him out of the lineup, not taking anything. But that's a special player. I think he's going to be in the MVP conversation. Within the next four or 5 seasons, but when you talk about Phoenix rich, that is, they play a team basketball. And it's crazy because they've been talking about this on Turner.
Game Theory Podcast
"yo kitch" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"So ma Bo prediction is that yo kitch wins his second consecutive MVP. I think he'd be a worthy winner. I think that this Denver team without Jamal Murray and Michael Porter junior is genuinely one of the three worst teams in the west. And would be right in the mix for the number one overall pick along with Houston. So I completely agree with you that he's worthy. Do you have an MVP vote this year? I had one last year. So yeah, I was going to say, I don't know if you'll have one this year, will you? I don't know. I don't think I'll have one issue because it rotates in my market. So my market will have the vote this year. So in the case of jokic, I just worry that there are going to be too many MVP voters that don't want to win. Don't want to have him win a second MVP when his team is in 6th when there's still unfortunately this narrative out there that he's not one of the 5 best players in the league that is just fucking crazy and stupid and all of that. I have significant worries that there's going to be voter fatigue. He'd be a worthy winner though. He'd undeniably be a worthy winner. I would love for that to be accurate. I would absolutely love for him to win. His second MP, there's very few players more fun to watch in the NBA than Nikola Jokić, if not, if not zero players, more fun to watch in the NBA than Nikola Jokić. Okay. Let's take a quick commercial break and we will be back with two more bold predictions each from Tony Jones and I..
The NBA Show
"yo kitch" Discussed on The NBA Show
"5 year old victory laps. No, but no, but that team, I remember they were setting records on defense. That San Antonio team, they were historically incredible. That's what I most remember about that tea by like January. I think they had like a 91 defensive rating, which even then was just like, what the fuck is going on? Pistons, 2004 level exactly. And I'll just say the caveat here is like offense is down across the board, so like we'll see if this continues, but it's pretty incredible even for a quarter of a season considering the way teams are shooting at these days. And again, it's not one of those things where we're Phoenix. They have all of this fucking wing depth. They have 8 in that center. They have all of this defensive talent, this link, quickness, athleticism, continuity, as far as understanding the system and the scheme, they have all of these things like Golden State, don't got that. You know, like, nobody's like staff Jordan Poole and you know Gary Payton's kid. Want toscano Anderson. Nobody's like, oh, these are the most incredible defenders we've ever seen. Like, bro is draymond green, man. It's crazy. What they do have is draymond and he has the built in familiarity with the staffs and the Andre Iguodala. I mean, just so much nonverbal communication going on during games with them. And then you have him pulling aside the Jordan pools and basically coaching them in the middle of games, telling him where they need to be and what they need to do. And why things aren't going the way they should. It's just an invaluable thing to have when you're trying to operate at a championship level. So who else is on this ballot? I have Rudy Gobert and Mikhail bridges. I think you could flip them to two. One could be two, one could be three. I don't really have strong feelings about that. But is there anybody else or is that the list? I think we got to get Giannis in here. They're basically surviving by their defense at this point. And that's without brook Lopez. That's with drew holiday and Chris Middleton out for big chunks of the season. Milwaukee's been 14 points better on defense with the honest on the floor, not exactly a surprise, but he's been he's been incredible. And he's a big reason why they can vary up their coverages, why they can switch and show and drop and jumble between those things in the middle of games in the way that they weren't doing two years ago. That's the key. They're no longer doing the cookie cutter, pick and roll defense. They're like, wow, we have a 7 foot dynamo. Why don't we make him guard everybody? Why don't we do that? And they're doing it and Yanis is stepping up to the task. It's probably worth noting to here on the Rudy Gobert front in the eternal drop defense debate, they've started putting him on some different guys, even with teams that have traditional centers. Like they were playing Cleveland, they'll have Rudy Gobert garde Isaac and have boja Bogdanovich try to front Jared Allen. Instead, so Rudy can just kind of hang in the paint. I think there's some ways that with Gobert. I mean, he's been challenging shots, defensive rebounding at an unbelievable level. There are ways you can kind of change things up to keep him in the mix more often. All right, do we need to do 6 man? Tyler hero, right? Yeah, must we? Yeah, Tyler hero. Congratulations. 6 man is a worthless award. Coach of the year. Anyone. It's Billy Donovan to me. Just because of the amount of roster turnover and what it takes to make all of that work like the counter example being the Lakers who are much more talented team. But they completely disbanded their roster, right? And they're having a hard time making that whole thing work right now. The fact that the bulls had all of this turnover, all of this upheaval and they played like a team, you gotta give Billy Donovan his props. He just had a vision for how that team needs to play. And they've carried it out from day one, all the pieces to fit together, even with Nikola vujovic missing a quarter of the season and not even being that great when he's played, and it just hasn't mattered, because they found rotation guys. They found other places of minutes. They were both not that great. Not what I said. Are you a boosh non believer? I'm a truth. Yeah, come on. Give me a break. That's gonna get scary in a playoffs. Teams don't do it like it's one of those things where teams aren't that ruthless in the regular season about those kinds of defensive things. But he is so damn slow footed and has no hops whatsoever. Scare and he's not that big. Yo kitch is huge, right? That's the one thing his one defensive acid. He doesn't have quick feet to keep Bailey jump over a textbook, but he's huge. He's tall. He's long. If he gets in the way, that's a deterrent. This is not that big for real. He's quickly become like the big lead for the Balkans. We're just going to take down the comparing. His brother was remember, I said nice things about him. He always have let the record show, I actually think vuit has been pretty solid on defense this season. But neither here nor there, Billy Donovan, I think a great pick for coach of the year. And since we kind of glossed over 6 man while we're talking bulls, I think Alex Caruso has a chance to get on some ballots on the back end of that. I can't believe they allowed that man to leave crypto dot com arena. They're going to rue the day that they let him go from there. I also had Monty Williams on my coach of the year ballot at Steve Kerr. Anybody else that they're out there? Oklahoma City Thunder coach whose name I can't even remember even though. Dagney I feel like that was like a cat saying his name. Take me. Is this a bit now? No, I just like, I have a tough time saying names, I guess. Chris Finch, I think it's in that conversation. Wes unsell JB Vickers stuff. That overperformed. Yeah. But it's gonna be tough to crack those top three. We're having to do a big corrective slash apology to Steve Kerr because even when we were talking about last season as a whole, maybe we were taking too narrow of you because I don't know that Jordan Poole and Juan toscano Anderson and Damien Lee, all these guys are they as comfortable in the way the warriors play right now if they didn't do it last year. I don't think they are. All right, anybody else was? I guess you could throw out James borrego too. Yeah, man. I'm a big fan of. He's one of my favorite guys in the league. I think he's always doing smart shit on the floor. And people underestimate how young the team really is. And to get these kind of results from guys that young, you know, I love James riggle. I don't think he gets enough credit. Obviously, he's not like, you know, supposed to Carlisle is something. He obviously doesn't has a proven it at the highest level as far as playoffs and executing against the most insane opponents. But I'm a bureau guy. Yeah. He's a fellow beer, bro, so respect. Don't see a lot of that in India. All right, let's wrap it there. Thank you to everyone for joining us. Thank you to Jonathan kerma big current for stepping in on production. We'll be back next week when we will be talking about some trades because it's fast becoming trade season around bees here parts. See.