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The w. Inside here. However, you I'm Keith Walker in Bonn, Germany. You're listening to inside here up on today's program. British Prime Minister Theresa may wins the confidence vote in government. But can she scraped together? New compromise Brexit deal. Also coming up Francis. Emmanuel Macron's great debase on the yellow vest crisis for the yellow vest mackerels policies have only reinforced his image of being a president for the rich. He is used as -secutive power to ran through reforms to loosen strict labor laws and slash wealth taxes. Also coming up solutions to climate change. We turn to Oslo in Norway and Poland warns the murder over popular opposition politician. They stories and more coming up on inside Europe. The Brexit drama is heating up. British Prime Minister Theresa may is still hanging onto power after winning an confidence vote in her government's during the week. But Germany and the rest of Europe are worried about whether she can scrape together some kind of a compromise Brexit deal during the weekend to discuss in Brussels DWI correspondent Georg Mathur's. Hello, Georg Heike. All you. Good. Thanks so opposition parties, they they failed to bring down the PM. She's like a cat with nine lives. I mean, everyone's baffled by Britain's political wranglings. What's going to come next? That's a good question. Of course. That's what everybody here. In Brussels wonders the chief spokesperson of the commission set the divorce agreement is not open for renegotiations, all that Brussels offer at this point is changing the wording at the political declaration that is a touch to that piece of paper. Yeah. But I mean when you say look at what I've been from the Gauthier Shen, that's an negotiation tactic. Shirley. I of course, you could make that argument on the other hand, it is clear for the European Union that a lot of its stake, and they have worked for two years now with the Brexit negotiated to Bungay his partners have changed a number of times. And he has said over and over again what we need for a good negotiation is clear position. What do you want? And I think that is the key problem in this process. Yes. Theresa May made a number of mistakes as she could have. She never said she wants soft, Brexit, heart Brexit, but to be fair. She has the problem that the political infighting in in the UK is is is such that all the parties, including own party wanted to profit from the situation of Brexit. Make political gains from that rather than finding a clear position. What does the UK wants to do? They want a Norway deal. Do they want a deal close to the European Union? Do they want don't want deal at all? And that question is still not clear today. Yeah. I mean, they've said what they don't want that. We don't want this. We don't what do you want on? Maybe that's what resumes mulling over the weekend. I mean, she's gonna come back on Monday with with some kind of hacked together new some kind of a new compromise Brexit deal, and that's what she's working on. I mean, there's been talk that article fifty is going to be extended. Do you see that happening? I would say it was always clear a couple of weeks is that's not the problem because the EU was always always said, you know. If technical reasons we found a deal, and for technical reasons, we still have to work out those details a couple of weeks we can extend that in order to avoid the next dental Brexit now if we're talking month, of course, we'll run into the elections for the European parliament, and before the first session midsummer there will have to be a solution for that. So a couple of months could be an option but in order to get that. And the Austrian chancellor was very clear he said if the UK wants an extension if they want to delay Brexit. They will have to give the good reason. Now, one of those reasons could be a people's vote. But if if the reason is not clear, the you will not go for that. Okay. And then the the other thing people are talking about as maybe this this going to be as you say people's vote a second referendum, frankly, I believe it's what wouldn't be a second referendum, but it'd be Assad referendum. I'm looking here at something. I found in my debts act. It comes from my aunt moved to the UK decades ago. It's a nineteen seventy five and it's the leaflet from a Harold Wilson. Then prime minister in the UK it's called Britain's new deal in Europe. And it's the leaflet where he can pained for for in a in a referendum, whether the UK should stay in the European Community as it was called back then and there's a great sentence in here where Harold Wilson says. And I quote, whether we are in the market or not common market policies are going to affect the lives of every family inside the market. We can play a major part in deciding these policies outside we are on our own. And it's almost scary. How that still rings true today? Great. I love it. Gaelic Mathur St. w correspondent in Brussels. Thanks for coming on inside Europe. Thanks a lot. Always a pleasure. Bon Gemini, you're listening to incite era, still to come. Poland mourns, the murder of a popular opposition politician finish. Toria cups. Dips came to go trivia Lubiana. Go alternative go. We have lost a human being of great integrity. He was open and warm as a politician at the age of fifty three he was at the feet of his career, but many believe that he could play an even bigger role in polish politics that had a bright future. But first this week, the French government kicked off a nationwide public discussion cold the grace debase. It's one way the government is trying to find solutions to the social crisis. France is facing after two months of yellow vest protests that president Emmanuel Macron has made concessions to that demands. Protests have persisted and appear likely to continue Jake sagana rose by to some yellow vests at random by in. Normandy and sends this story. Black smoke billows from this roundabout on a highway running through the small town of Santander who've police have banned fires at yellow vest gatherings. But protesters burned kindling and tossed out Christmas trees anyway to stay warm. These yellow vests have been here since November. And they don't plan to leave. At least some of them say until president Emmanuel macro resigns this week macaroni government launched the goal day by Nassau out a nationwide public debate. The public discussions will take place in town halls across the country over the next two months and is supposed to be a space where the French can express their concerns and political priorities directly to elected officials. Fred barred a local yellow vest near rule on loads freight trucks at warehouses for work. He is not convinced all on the Nollie part says the big debate is just going to be a poll to help the government manipulate people. It's all just a media show. Bard has long this trusted, politics and said he didn't vote in the last presidential election. Macro campaigned as a political outsider promising to renew politics in France. He is used his executive power to ran through reforms to loosen strict labor laws and slash wealth taxes and an effort to kick start the economy and create jobs for the yellow vests macaroni policies have only reinforced his image of being a president for the rich phone soi Bulu. A local lawyer spokesperson for these yellow. Vest says mackerel has only continued the policies of previous presidents. Tuna crazy don't the in reality Budo says all our presidents for forty years have had the same politics that help big companies and the rich macaroni has pushed it even further another yellow vest at this roundabout Claire beaten thinks mackerel only works for city dwellers and tech startups Batanes as people in the French countryside have been forgotten and that she has watched communities around her disappear as jobs have moved to the city. Hoosier be nibble foles Kuna trail she says today in France, only intellectual work is recognized. We're not all intellectuals. Some of us have more manual intelligence. Beaten added the roundabout has away replace the public gathering spaces of cafes and brasseries that have disappeared from small towns government. Bard the freight loader says this is created a community a family, we're going to miss each other. When this is over. During evening rush hour, the yellow vest stopped free trucks, creating a traffic jam at least kilometer long, but Danny a Belgian truckdriver wasn't upset at all about the highway standstill. All the wall. They're absolutely right to protest for their rights. He says it's the same in Belgium. Ten people have died since the beginning of the movement, which has frequently turned violent protests. The majority of deaths have been traffic accidents caused by road blocks. Like this one. In town at a newly opened cafe at least close Zach is exactly macaroni target audience. Close AC as a young entrepreneur who just bought and renovated her small business. But she says she's not into politics, and she understands why the yellow vests have continued protesting after working sixty hours a week and paying her one employee. She takes home just a thousand euros a month and says retirees have it even worse. Who says he will fancy, but no man, Chris what was on phone close says it's not normal that we have to help our parents buy groceries or that our grandparents eat pasta every day the latest poll show that sixty percent of the French still support the yellow vest movement, which is several points lower than before the holidays. Macro was supposed to be the outsider that reshuffled the political system and ushered in the next French revolution. But the yellow vests, the French who feel forgotten are the ones currently rattling the system they feel this is their moment to make a difference and to make their Mark on history. Jake sagana Rhodesia scented and to Hoover, I'm Keith Walker in Bonn, Germany. This is inside Europe. Poland is mourning the murder of popular opposition politician, the left-wing mayor of Gdansk had been reelected just months ago. He was intensely disliked by polish nationalists in part for offering to accommodate refugees inside the liberal city. The suspect is a young man with the parent, psychological issues. They had a grudge against the long serving mayor who to him represented, the country's former liberal establishment the tragedy come be perhaps seen in a wider context as an escalation of a war of words between politicians and supporters of both the ruling nationalist party and the opposition from Warsaw Yuliana reports. It was a moment of horrid uring charity fundraiser in the city of dying knife wielding attacker repeatedly stabbed math Pabo Adamovich in the chest and stomach the mortgage collapsed and was rushed to hospital in the ensuing. Chaos before security men managed to restrain the assassin he grabbed hold of a microphone shoutout. His message to the crowd. The twenty seven year old suspect at Raj against the mare claiming he had been wrongly imprisoned and told when the mortgage is liberal civic platform party was in power. But later turned out that the men was a criminal who had served time for a series of Bank robberies. But what that movie died in hospital the following day. Candlelit vigils in his memory who held all over the country. The president of the European Council and a former polish prime minister, Donald tusk. Let the moment of silence at the main old city square in dice the vigil ended with this single song which point captured. The void created by the mass death one of the moaners was on borough savage. Now, a deputy speaker of the Senate veteran of the anti-communist solidarity movement, which was bone in the city of dying. He was one of them of which is closest friends. Schmor- trivia cups of Kim to go. Trivia, Lubyanka alternative go. We have lost human being of great integrity. He was open and warm as a politician at the age of fifty three he was at the feet of his career, but many believe that he could play an even bigger role in police politics that had a bright future puzzle at a move, which would still be able to do so much for the city of dunks. And for Poland. Since many should not get she about ink Giffen, what type of motives that. Guided the mass assassin for those gathered at overnight vigils. It was clear that there was another call pret the amount of hate fuelling pollens, ongoing political conflict between those on the government side and the opposition coding to social media. Analysts in Poland hate speech on the web has reached unprecedented. Proportions cases of abuse held between rival politicians and the supporters are reported on a daily basis. This fall two year old local men clearly overwhelmed by the tragedy says he hopes that in its wake polish politicians come to their senses. I think this is the result of the aggressive politics. They now country by really hope that for additions will reffing the behavior and change it. But unfortunately, I'm a Bessemer. At this point. I think we have to force them to change. And this is our only hope I don't believe we can just do nothing in this case. It will be in Disney movie in east boat of boo until now olden republi citizens only so assassination attempts on the lives of politicians on television happening in other countries. They took for granted that free from terrorism. The country was a safe place to live analysts years Remo song of the fiber think-tank examines the locations of the tragedy and no just into of public safety risks. I've never voted good. Come to this implant ever you Republic. Life will solve in a peaceful way, even transition from Comey's to the democrat party was peaceful. Now, we are afraid that violence could become part of polish politics, home punishes society, specially the democratic versus are now in critical needs of renewal and strengthening to avoid causing bonds to the political once gave that does not forget either that we really need to dispirito and emotional renewal new Europe because brutally deals. Public. Life is a global problem. Not local in the wake of the meta polish. President Andrew Duda has invited politicians to meeting designed to draw conclusions from the tragedy. Too many polls it has grimly disturbing that the mother happened in dines the bath place of the solidarity movement, whose peaceful protests in the nineteen eighties sparked revolutions in eastern Europe, which brought down communism. Now. It seems Poland will need to work hard to restore its moral bearings which have been clearly disrupted by political tension. Yuliana Madinat d w will soul inside Europe comes to you from d-w in poem. Jimmy. You can listen again all download the podcast d-w dot com slash inside Europe. You're listening to inside Europe about his percents of people in Europe live in cities. So that's a smart place to start looking for solutions to climate change h year city with at standing green credentials is named European green capital and in two thousand nineteen accolade goes to Oslo. So what is the Norwegian capital doing deserves? Lush evanger went to find is. Also from where completely new neighborhood is taking shape. Fast behind me here, the new central library being erected a little bit further down at brand new monk museum. Both enormous buildings. Also is one of your Custos cities growth often equals higher energy consumption, more pollution on poorer equity, but noise capital has taken all these into consideration on made construction planning key to its green agenda. Collins old industry around that we have transformed into new part of those. So this is an area where people live where people work where people shop where people can enjoy themselves north and west from the waterfront lies vol- come area with shops offices, hotels, consoles, Isaq fold is head of environment and innovation at the property, developer and architect firm. That's planned and built the neighborhood. I spill in rum. The air is almost on the by south with heating and cooling. We have our own Khurmal. It is it's the mayor with deal thermal and the and the heat pumps surpri the whole city neighborhood with a clean energy. Okay. Let's go. The local energy plants has been installed in the basement of the old industrial hole, which now houses also biggest food court Harry produce around five point five million kidding hours of getting in every air by the heat bumps that he recovery system from the guard, the geothermal wells, and thermal solar panels, there all resources that go into the system, and that we believe this to willing. The Volkan area has become a bit of a test lab. So new and environmental solutions for aslo where the city council aims to make all new constructions as energy efficient as possible from the actual construction phase throughout the lifespan of the buildings. That's one of the reasons also have been named European green capital for twenty nineteen. Well, it's title. That we were one in competition with the thirteen other cities, the European Commission wants to promote dialogue and a platform for sharing solution between UPN green capitals and other cities. In europe. That's Anita Lindahl trough stall project manager for all slow screen capital year. And the first instance were supposed to be the role model and create a platform for dialogue with other cities. So in what way can also be a role model and how important are cities when it comes to promoting agreeing in gender and actually trying to achieve the climate goals have been set in Paris. I think cities are crucial. We know that a lot of the greenhouse gas emissions in the world comes from cities and cities rowing across the globe. And we also see that those are the highest potential of reducing greenhouse gases in cities because they're density. How the potential of the public transportation, which you don't have in rural areas at cetera. So we're in global terms relatively small city, but we're big enough to test solutions that can actually be so transfers into also two largest cities. Degree. You come see and hear also green credentials more than half of all new costs sold here or electric that are traumas and that trick bosses and ferries running on renewable hydroelectric power during the very cold winters much of the houses yet. Okay. Warm from heat generated at a waste incinerator plant. The city has such it self Embiid goals to cook emissions by thirty six percent by the end of next year and ninety five percent, but twenty thirty two chief this the city council has introduced its own carbon budget the first of its kind in the world, according to governing math Raimondo Hansson. It means that we count carbon emission in the same SEO. Coming money old parts also day need to report back home much day can reduce day remission on very clear significant goals. Forty two different match measures that have to report back to us based on on the goals, and a deputy mayor of finance which is responsible for all the main challenges going forward to reduce the number of private cars, it's directly into people's daily life than we cannot make it too expensive to to drive the drive their private cars at the at the same time. So I see that. That's the biggest challenge that the private businesses are more and more on board. They see the potential in the as to come. So they're very forward leaning. Not all of the city council's efforts to make also green have been welcomed with open arms by people here. Clowns too much of the city centre, cough, ry has met with position from businesses in particular. Yes. A recent survey shows three-quarters of citizens agree. It is important to stick to that ninety five percent reduction goal by twenty thirty five W Osler if you'd like to contact the show, we would love to hear from you. Here's our Email address Europe D W dot com. This is inside Europe. And I'm Keith Walker and Bonn, Germany. This is inside Europe. And I'm Keith Walker in Bonn, Germany coming up in the next half an hour. Greece's prime minister wins confidence votes after his government collapses. Israeli divers get the go ahead to search for human remains in Hungary's done. Ube river Jews gonna come from Israel to do this work and many of them have some kind of connection family connection to real events that took place and back in forty four forty five. So it's you know, it's an emotional thing. Not just a professional thing. Also on the show checks. Remember student who fifty years ago performed the ultimate act of self sacrifice. Stay tuned for these stories and more. The firm Vong Jimmy you'll listening to incite here. Greece's leftist prime minister, Alexis tsipras, has one confidence votes on that happened just days after his right-wing coalition partner quiz, the government over a deal to solve bizarre and complex dispute what call the fomer Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia as I'm carissa van reports from Athens. The PM's troubles are far from over. He faces a key votes on the compromise deal in the coming days had the forty four year old Greek leader lost the vote mister cheapness would have had to be relinquished his mandate to the country's president and lead the crisis crippled country to the elections, but Greece, and Mr. tsipras have been sped that crisis. At least for the time. Being the Greek leader now has a fresh mandate to press ahead with key policy programs on the ratification of the contentious deal with Macedonia next week. The win however, Pitts, Mr. tsipras and his ruling surreal. Party against a growing nationalist backlash that has been triggered by the deal that renames Greece's northern neighbor to Republic of north Macedonia and lifts long-running objections, which Athens is had to the Balkan states entry to the European Union and NATO hundreds of thousands of Greeks from all parts of the country are expected to storm the nation's capital over the weekend to protest the complex agreement in a more worrying sign though are the covert attempts to torpedo the deal are turning nasty, including death threats targeting lawmakers who have opened the come out in support of the deal. The threats are part of sweeping intimidation campaign that has seen thousands of posters plastered across the northern city of several Niki featuring mugshots of these parliamentarians and red colored friend billing them as traitors, no organization of politico. Oh party has so far openly claimed responsibility for the stunt. But at least six men have been arrested into Saloniki in to other cities in northern Greece in connection with the campaign the government and political parties across the board have condemned the threats, but experts fear the nationalist backlash mushrooming across the nation. Could ultimately derail Greece's bid to return to normality after near decade of high drama and back toback crises greets of long resisted, the use of the name Macedonia by its northern Balkan neighbour saying it reflects territorial designs on the Greek province of the same name that province also happens to be the birthplace of Greece's most revered ancient warrior on under the great making the speech so much more emotive concerned about the nationalist backlash. Police have now doubled security for targeted lawmakers it despite the Geant measures deputy public order minister Katerina Bubba. Costa tended to resignation to Mr. tsipras this week after receiving a rash of pictures, showing crushed female skulls in her mail. Her resignation was rejected by the prime minister, a move that signals just how desperate Mr. tsipras is to retain key support ahead of the vote on the Macedonian name change deal. They literati FAI the agreement could set back Macedonia's aspirations to join the European Union and NATO and that could see Russia rejoicing blocking its long-running bid to retain influence over its former Soviet, satellite states. In the volatile Balkans. The d-w Athens on Keith Walker. Embalm germany. This is inside Europe after seventy five years more evidence of one of Hungary's darkest chapters might soon be brought to the surface literally as Rayleigh divers are to start searching for the humor remains of thousands of Jews who are Shah. And killed by Hungarian fascists near the Danube river in Budapest during World War Two. It's taken years for the Hungarian and his Riley governments to reach agreement on this recovery. Operation, Stefan, boss has more from Budapest. At a ceremony on the banks of the river. Danube a group of Jews Bray at a memorial. Gold in short do shoes. It consists of sixty shoes sculptured out of iron and attest to the embankment. Dairy percent. The thousands of Jews and others who were ordered to take off their shoes before being shot by militiamen of Hungary's fascist arrow cross party during World War Two. Now Israel wants to give these victims of proper Jewish burial speaking at a memorial interior minister audit dairy, Santon agreement had been reached with the Hungarian government to launch a recovery mission. I'm pleased that the Hungarian interior minister has promised assistance support and technologically Queant for this project. And I hope that the Israeli divers will be able to bring these holy martyrs to Jewish burial many of the victims were shot and killed after the bro Nazi era cross party to power in Hungary in October nineteen forty four lily taught was one of the thousands of Jews that were around to she recalled how she and others were forced to stent in their underwear on the riverbank before being shot. They Gus to their shore. So the Danube tied in twos. By there is I was tied to one of the girls and the managed to untie ourselves somehow, then they shot does. They must have shot my friends in the hat because she died immediately. I have a shot in the arm, but that decided to fall to the ground. So they threw us both into. Wherever I managed to hold onto a boat. But then the ad Okinawa started shooting at it. I dug them that. And a finding remains over friend, and so many odors, no to diverse ova, Isreaeli, volunteer group involved in rescue and recovery operations. Smaller in bore to ship its members use sonar equipment to map out refer bent over Danube been Budapest. But it's difficult work because of the amount of pollution into river, hyme, odd, mugs een is leading the recovery mission. Shore shallow over fifteen thousand Jews were shot and their bodies thrown into the Danube over seventy years of past. And there is not been any attempt to retrieve their bones after extensive research. We believe that there is an eighty percent chance that Jewish bones lie in the search area next month. Around two dozen divers we arrive in Budapest to use this information to search for human remains, one of them is alone beco- each whose family suffered during the holocaust in Hungary. Jews are going to come from Israel to do this work and many of them have some kind of connection family connection to real offense that took place and back in forty four forty five. So it's no, it's an emotional thing. I just a professional thing. It hasn't been decided where any remains found will be buried in Hungary or Israel a few years ago. Oh, so remains were inter in Hungary off today were accidentally discovered during renovation works at a bridge. But we seem to Jewish community. There is concern about more Jewish burials here while Hungary's right-wing, Prime Minister Viktor Orban remains in power or on has braced Hungarian wartime leader who was an L I of auto he'd ler. He's also used an image of Jewish us. Financier George Soros in an anti immigration billboard campaign. But regardless of where the victims are buried, the small crowd gathered here today wants to ensure that those mood will not be forgotten visibly moved religious Jews embrace each other as they look to arts to memorial and the river where so many people found their death stephenville's d-w Budapest. You're listening to inside Europe. Fifty years ago this week at twenty year old check student poured flammable liquid over himself, and let a much his name was YoM Pollock and he was protesting not just of the Soviet led invasion of Czechoslovakia five months previously. But what he saw as public apathy towards it. His funeral became a major protest against the his funeral became a major protest against the occupation. Many more imitated him and his name became synonymous with the ultimate act of self sacrifice. Rob Cameron reports from Prague on high checks are remembering him. The people of Czechoslovakia on young Pollock twenty one years old, but most of his students footage from an old newsreel film on the funeral of young power the twenty knots twenty one year old history and political economy students of Charles university who ten days previously had electrified Czechoslovak society. With a shockingly public act of self sacrifice, the funeral attracted tens of thousands became a major protest against the occupiers. There was an odd stillness over this as the young you can still stand at the sponsored by the fountain beneath the national museum where power set himself alight. This now across embedded into the cobblestones. He ran for a few meters down Wenceslao square before a passer-by began smothering the flames with his coat lay direction. His family. Logistician the business over into Syria. Jim gantner. Later in hospital. He told doctors one of whom recorded the conversation that it had been a deliberate act two rows Czechoslovaks to protest at the invasion. He saw that we were not only giving up but giving in as one of the first to treat him later recalled to me. Fifty years to the day since his self immolation an outdoor exhibition was launched a few meters. From the spots telling the story of his life, premature death and the reaction to it. Yaacob Yariesh is a historian with the institute for the study of totalitarian regimes which helped organize it. I think that we have to be little active, and that we have to struggle for democracy, liberty and for truth and. I think he says to us that it's sometimes painful to listen. What do you think that he actually achieved back in terms of put its he actually achieve nothing? But we know that the no-one else achieve anything at a time because or produce were suppressed and even other students who protested against the regime where than jail so thinking about the his achievements. I think we must Dern our view to what happened next after him and would happen in the twenty years of normalization, and what happens actually until now because what he did has influence of how people think about the politics, and how they wear thinking about the politics during normalization and today, and among the interested onlookers with some remember that time old too. Well, they included ever pavilions Uva. He was a student at the same faculty. Liane pie and his thirteen year old sister was traumatized after witnessing him carry out, the protests, the blood cell up pleasure. Davila gin, partial ability, and I remember the huge crowds of people for the funeral. I think almost everyone knew what had happened and why it had happened. But that was then did it make sense. What he did? I think it did people realize that something should be done. But the problem was that no one had the courage to do anything today. Pollock's name is everywhere, including on the square, which still houses his old university and many details have come to light and many myths put to bed the students who followed him shortly afterwards might of called himself torch, number two. But it's not now thoughts that Pollock was torched number one. There was no organized group of students planning to commit suicide. But twenty six people did set themselves on fire in the spring of nineteen sixty nine and said. Seven died and Dion Pollock's name has become synonymous with the ultimate act of protests. Rope camera d-w prong, and I'm Keith Walker and bomb. You're listening to inside Europe. An award winning foreign correspondent says he ended up in a psychiatric hospital after being vaccinated against yellow fever, Malcolm Bradenton, his TV reporter wife Trina filmed, some of the bizarre behavior. He displayed as life began to unravel about seven years ago that footage has now been turned into a film, Malcolm is a little on. Well, here's some of that footage featuring Malcolm and his wife, according to the vaccine make the food like symptoms to the vanished within a few days. But mine persistent. Employee still Mark conditioned deteriorated blood tests showed my liver was being affected, and I was admitted to hospital under the care of the leading infectious diseases specialist despite all the tests and old medication doctors discovered not kill his femur. But then it got worse. He said I'm gonna fly with angel style. My husband's room was on the fifteenth floor of the building. There was a big window. So I got my mobile phone. I kept him on the house phone, and texting this house begging, HUD, too, Cold War and Agnes check him. They run into spin with found him on the windowsill praying. It's nice seven years since he left hospital and Malcolm joins me now. Hello, Malcolm, hokies, just just set the scene. Why did you get the yellow fever job in the first place? I was supposed to go to forget who Ivory Coast to do film or series of films. Unisem about child soldiers on notice to get into the country. I needed to have yellow fever vaccine under certificate to prove it that as things on raveled at points. You thought you were Jesus than you thought, you were devil and the messiah and you're really tormented by your condition of what point did you realize that something is is not just, you know, wrong, but something's very wrong. It wasn't clear to me personally immediately the things wrong because I was diluted. I was going crazy. And I started going mad fairly she'll be off. Right. Had the vaccine. I started hallucinate my kindle e-readers Flynn across the room. And then I don't know how came across. But I thought I have supernatural powers. And then I thought my dead friends. We're getting in touch with me. It wasn't until I was I saw. Receive anti-psychotic medication when I was in a psychiatric hospital gradually came to recognize that was not the truth. But the problem was what happened was in my view, yellow fever vaccine unhinged. The anchors that kept my sanity in touch and once those had gone, my brain to go on a journey of its own which is just extrordinary and I flipped from mania to depression. And it was the most awful experience lasted for almost for almost fifteen months. And what's what's the light? Is the yellow fever vaccination? What what the manufacturers are they saying about about this? They have completed nine any culpability whatsoever. Planes is that I went model by myself. I say this is piliokahi incidence. But the doctors that have treated me all the way through them said that it's really absolutely spot on the were sent crazy by this yellow fever vaccine during your journey. What was the lowest point that? You're right. The worst point. Was when I got done we lost my job. I Los absolutely everything in Athens because I couldn't work, and I was afraid on gentlest. And so my wife took is to her country Denmark to try to give the kid. I mean, fortunately, the psychiatrists in Denmark were able to get me so down after about eight months of the most intense efforts and after several relapses indeed. But thinking that I was the devil thinking I was going to burn. I was going to be the most appalling person in the universe for eternity was just devastating to me. And it took quite a lot of persuasion to convince me ultimately that I was known, but believing that I was the devil led me to try to commit suicide on New Year's Eve on in two thousand eleven because I was hearing voices saying that the world was going to end the stroke of midnight. And I had it within my power to be able to save the world and then for my family if I tried to if I would commit suicide. So I went about it. But some stuff came in. Family just in time. I mean, I saw that on the movie I watched the entire thing yesterday on its parts of it are difficult to watch last time. He came out of hospital was seven years ago in twenty ten. Is that is or do you fear? Another relapse. No, I don't fear. Another relapse I managed to myself all of the end of all of anti psychotic medication. I was given a clean Bill of health bonsai contras in twenty four. I have not had any twinges of a tool since I mean, for example, I being back to the grade side of one of my friends who I thought was instructing me how to become the and didn't get any of the sort of the impulses that I was getting when I was insane. I don't believe there is anything that's going to semi off the edge tool of. But I have to say that I am very cautious about where I go, for example, on don't I promise to my wife that I wouldn't go to Africa because I would have to take anti malarial treatment and some of the anti malarial treatments. Do sometimes the side effective of psychosis. And so I can't really risk that which is great distress to me that I can't go there. But I'm grateful that I fully recovered. And I'm not gonna do anything that's going to jeopardize my health. The most seriously upset my family because the thing about mental illnesses that it's bad for the person who's suffering it, but there's a double trouble for the family you have to witness it. And after endure all the the consequences of that. And that is a living legacy for my wife, and also my son has affected your wife and son because you were convinced that your son was the messiah chosen because he has three passports British Danish American, and I thought this is interesting because you said that Britain Denmark and America have the values that God wants to see an earth. And that's the reason he put your son on the planet to save the world. So when I see that it makes me laugh to because he stays because you have to have a sense of humor about these things. Because if I thought about it too deeply would really upset me. But the the problem for my wife is she's always looking to make sure that there is no change in my behavior. She says in the film. She's changed completely. She's not able to have the joy of looking forward anymore. She used to be this extraordinarily Faisi woman who never heard about anything. But she does get more concerned that life is going to fall off a cliff as to my son annoy going go into the kind of personal problems that he has as a result because he's nineteen years old, and it's up to him to work out. But if you listen to the song that ends our film, he eloquently talks about the kind of problems that he's got he talks about nightmares that hold him all the time. And so what I'm really angry about what happened to me is the legacy of my son in particular because his childhood was cruelly snatched away from him when he saw what happened to me, and he's going to struggle to rebuild his life. I'm sure on trying get three that. I mean, let's listen to clamp song. Song? That's Lucas problems and nightmares. And it's very dark lyrics. Has life chain obviously has changed but have your priorities changed since them. Well, because the only with flat brick because this wipes out this film. I have to say is a commercial venture. We are hoping that somehow will provide compensation because if you damaged by the vaccine in Britain example, there is no compensation, and there are some people who want to put it on the compensation scheme. So that people can get some recompense if they have been damaged by the vaccine, I mean, I aims of this film are to try to these stigmatize mental illness. We have exposed our selves as family completely. I'm we'll make ever been before. But the problem, but the thing is we aren't journalists we expect people to expose themselves in their dog star. And so I had to reciprocate. But as far as my values are concerned, I believe that what has happened to me is that it's made me stronger is possibly maybe an even better journalist, but what it has done. Is it proves that? What doesn't kill you makes you strong view on? You could see that in the movie. I mean, you just showed remarkable resilience. I don't if you have any way, or if it was a it was a result of what you were going through that you developed, but it's amazing to watch. I've been through some Phillies of tough situations in my life. For example, when I was twenty four years old, my baby son died and twenty four hundred sort of rebuild myself in a way, it was a shattering things to do, and that was really one of the big sort of crossroads of my life. And I was determined that. There was nothing. Whatever happened to me would sort of bring me down again. And so even the evening, my dog is periods when I was locked up in these secure wards. I was saying to my wife that things will be okay. And I do believe in my my deeply rooted, positively as being one of the reasons why we have got through this. But the other reason without a doubt is my wife who is just extrordinary and you'll see this wonderful woman in this phone fighting for me, she stopped by marriage vows. And if she had abandoned me, there's some people would have done in those circumstances. I would still be whimpering away in a psychiatric ward somewhere without any hope whatsoever. Yeah. Not admired. She was right. I with you all throughout your deal unfair planter somebody in the movie suggested that all of our sanity is is hanging on a thread. What's your perspective on that? I think it is. I think the the line between sanity and madness gossamer thin and. Can take it away and this vaccine to get away and. Basically once your mind goes than it can take on this feeling of express train. And that's probably what happened to me. Maybe lots of the things in my conference that had been there for a long long time. You know, they then took me on these really peculiar journeys. But the psychiatrist we talked to the quite interesting about this saying that the reason why I flipped from being Christ to the messiah was that. It was just it was the natural sort of mirror of the mania wants it flipped over the depression. So. It's really really difficult and the other thing he said was when you have a relapse it can happen at any time. It's not like you've got a broken leg. And the slightest thing set me off I thought I was getting better in April two thousand twelve and suddenly the camera which I rely on to to make money it had a very small repair. And I thought once again, we weren't gonna make any money we going to become broke again. And that sent me right back to the depths of despair thinking that I was the devil. Again. It was extraordinarily. It wasn't just a small backslide. It was a total collapse down the abyss. And so I'll meant our mental state is really gossamer thin. I mean things are looking up for you narrow. I mean, you've you've got your own movie. This film has taken me seven or eight years of my life to compile spent the past two years editing. I've put my heart and soul into this. And. I said in the film that I didn't want my is to be the thing that define me. But I think maybe perhaps this film might be. And maybe my madness does define me. Perhaps how I got over it very. Yeah. Absolutely, Malcolm as little on. Well, is the name of the film, and we're going to be downloaded on Vinnie of even get it on video choose we're out there. You look out enough. You'll find it Markham. Bravo, thank you very much for being on inside Europe, your compe-. 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Hard Factor 11/26: Tijuana Border Problems, Russia Takes Ukrainian Ships, and Widespread Protests in France
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I'll take some other headlines taken away west all right yesterday. After spending some long hard night's partying slash trying to survive in Tijuana, some migrants about five hundred including men women and children attempted to charge the border at the Sanusi dro- point of entry and gain entry into the United States legally. So they were just doing the Goldberg spear finishing move is a red Rover situation. Classic blitz. So many of these migrants belong to the infamous caravan that everyone is concerned about this caused the largest land port in the western hemisphere to close down for several hours and holy shit. If you were just some like white kids trying to catch donkey show scores from codeine and a whistle shot. You were probably shitting your pants when that happened. You know, I can't I can't go home. Cody. I don't think this is right. Yeah. A lot of a lot of border kids do sneak over the border at night after their parents, go to bed just a party and try to come back. Yeah. Lots of phone calls divulging to their parents. They were not studying. But they were extremely scared in Tijuana with a bunch of angry my thought, you were Brian's house. No, no, I'm trapped in Tijuana. Mom, I've got three migrants in blankets. And my car refusing to leave. It is also reported that the migrants who charged the border were being dispersed with tear gas. So Anderson Cooper is just gonna jerking off to pictures of like mother's sheltering their children from the tear gas, and he's jerking off to it. Because he's he's happy that he loves them. He loves the quote on CNN loves if you turn on CNN, it's it's mother's sheltering their kids from tear-gas, Fox News. It's people trying to break down fences. But the migrants are not exactly peacefully marching to the border. They were attempting to break fences, they were throwing objects and attempting to harm agents of the customs and border control who had been deployed there. So that's certainly aiding to Trump's claims that maybe not all these folks should be let in and some might be a little more violent than others. But you know, some bad apples hurting, the pure efforts of many people just trying to get in and have a better life. Yeah. That's the analogy. That's the analogy. Yes. As of this podcast, no injuries to any of the migrants are being reported. The whole Gasco started as a plan protest, which started. The sports arena slash home base. Where five thousand now migrants are staying in Tijuana while the attempt to enter the US through Silom as the protest grew bigger and closer to the border, of course, tensions flared when they clashed with the Mexican police, and that's when the blitz happened. The they ran around the Mexican blockade and to the borders secretary of homeland security Kirstin Nielsen said, quote, DHS will not tolerate this type of lawlessness and will not hesitate to shut down ports of entry for security and public safety reasons, we will also seek to prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. Anyone who destroys federal property. Endanger endangers our frontline operators or violates our nation's sovereignty. Nothing new there from that group shutting down this people setting up inside of a sports arenas. Like, it's a bad start to anything just ask a New Orleans and Houston how that that one? Yeah. Apparently, the that arena is only supposed to house thirty five hundred people. So it's got a little crowded. It's all get drunk and watch them sports. And then when the sports are over. Yeah. Mexican officials are saying the violent offenders are many were arrested in are being processed for deportation to their countries of origin democratic Senator Brian Schatz took to Twitter voices from from his linen. I saying quote tear-gas across the border against unarmed families as a new low, and he's like the reason I'm talking so quietly because my entire family is napping in the mansion after their third helping of thanksgiving dinner. It's it's eighty degrees here and my last name is the past tense of shit. He wanted to remind them of that too. Yeah. So the merit merit. Tijuana has been pissed about the the migrants coming to his his city for for a while. And his already said that no resources from Tijuana will go towards aiding the migrants, and is calling for the Mexican government to step the fuck up and take care of what he's what is what is becoming a humanitarian crisis in his city. He also said we just want to go back to providing Californians with the place to come and get drugs. Whores take whistle shots and watch a donkey fuck a seven seven six. Fix the seven. I guess. So Tijuana's amassing thousands of people waiting on their asylum requests, a process that can sometimes take years and Trump is demanding that Mexico house them during that process on Twitter yesterday. Trump said would be very smart if Mexico would stop the caravans long before they get to our southern border, or if originating countries would not let them form in the first place. So that's possible. Yeah. Sure. This this is just going to keep happening to you that people keep coming to Tijuana Tijuana is is going to get even crazier than than it always has been so don't put to Tijuana. What's a whistle shot? It's actually had one in. You wanna it's where they get some some some chick or or dude put your head back shakes it around pours tequila in your mouth while whistling and then shakes her head around again, basically gives you a headache. That's when they blow whistle blow. Whistle until you take a shot like pit bull style. At the beginning of Modine pit bulls. Also, then you get to watch it don't give focused six I didn't actually catch donkey show was with some girls. So go onto the internet, Amy. Irene stock says babies and kids are getting teargassed. How'd you Christians square with that? On this question yet, and then Raya rake hell Martinez says weren't Joseph Mary NGOs, refugees. So all right. Let's didn't turn out. So great for Jesus. They also got mistreated are the crayons and the Russians are going at and again, boys, Ukraine. They convened an emergency meeting of their so-called war cabinet on Sunday. And it's assumed that Russia had the same meeting, but they just called it a regular cabinet meeting. Yeah. This was after the former member of the Soviet Union accused Russia of having fired on three of its vessels in the Black Sea, injuring at least six sailors, which means they were really hurt because it's not like Ukrainian to complain. That's how you lose testicle. Cranny Ukrainians lose a finger, and it's like it was too cold. I just chopped it off. No big deal just life in the former USSR, man. So the Russia's federal security service also as Putin's wrench or the fuckers of pussy riot confirmed that they had seized three Ukrainian quote warships because they allegedly had trespassed into Russian territorial waters. Weapons were used to quote force. The Ukrainian worships to stop and three Ukrainian servicemembers were treated for minor injuries, aka loss of limbs or genitalia at a minimum. That's from Russia. The Ukrainian navy said to gun boats were struck by Russia or struck and rushing crews boarded and sees them and in a company ING tugboat. It's assume that tugboat was not struck because it was known to have been carrying the. Vodkas apply. No. That's not true. They all they all bought cone every every boat. Why even does Ukraine have an army if they're just gonna they just give up their worships so fucking easily. I mean seems like interesting. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you you don't think they were just intimidated by the lots more Russian ships and just gave up their ships. I'm sure they went to what it is. Bigger ship. But why are they even there then? Because we should take out all forty two point five million of them. Apparently earlier in the day the Russians blocked all traffic under the Crimean bridge in the Kerch strait. And this is the only passage into the as of sea because of what it said was an approach by Ukrainian vessels. So the Russians Ukrainians come in and said, not not the spokesperson for Putin's wrench or the FSP claimed the Ukraine failed to notify Russia that it ships were planning to use the straight to which the Ukrainian said NIA, well, both Ukraine Russia and said that no the Ukrainians denied it Ukrainians are like oh. Oh, we're going down the passes. Right. That we thought was like a neutral. Pass. Student and Russia was like, yeah. Today today, we didn't want to let you pass. Yeah. We're just gonna shoot you and taking ships. You're being super rushing today. West anyway, well, both Ukraine and Russia have the rights to the sea under a two thousand three treaty the Black Sea Russia, however has been slowly making moves to take over both sides of the street and eventually fucking Ukraine saying things like girl, these pants are so itchy. Do you mind? If I take them off I'll be able to relax after their off Russia's just a man's body in your in your mind. Oh, yeah. Isn't it in your? Arouse the man the pieces together, but it says right there in two thousand and three there was a treaty saying that Ukraine Russia both how to access to that straight. So Russia just flexed on them. And they're like not today. Yeah. Yeah. And this this all stems from the twenty fourteen annexation of Crimea by Russia when they took the terrier territory from the Ukraine moved at got Putin, so hard he had to get prescription pants and was quote, a real bummer for the Ukrainians. So things are not not looking good right there right now. But we'll keep you updated on the story. Let's take it to the internet, Chris Daniels. Chris Daniel says none of our business. We have things to deal with on our own continent. I guess continent, and he's referring to the border wall shit. And then eject Vitale says a worship that can be seized is not a warship. Exactly. Nice say, exactly. So I'm with you Egypt. Vitale, Pat, I'm going to give I'm going to give you a few seconds to make one more Russia. Boehner joke before. Talking about Dixon. Russia. I got another tear gas story for you here involving poor people on the receiving end of the tear gas seems to be the trend. Yeah. There was chaos in France on the shop say nailed it. So shop schol shawls Z that's on Saturday as police use tear gas and water cannons to disperse the protesters. The Sean Ilias say is one of the most famous avenues and towards the tractions in the world. It's located in Francis. Capital Peres huge avenue with a bunch of shops, and like French people arches and stuff. Eighteen and such. Picking the streets. Now, the demonstration has been billed as the yellow vest movement. And it was act two of the movement the campaign began a week ago and last Saturday more than two hundred eighty thousand people took part two people were killed and more than six hundred people injured this one this past Saturday was not quite as bad. There was only one hundred thousand people took part sixteen hundred protests across France. And there weren't as many injuries no deaths recorded yet. But in the capital in Paris, eight thousand people were were violently demonstrating their starting fires. There were throwing things with the cops. And just like tack pushing over cars and all sorts of crazy shit forty arrests were made on Saturday nineteen people were injured including four officers. And yeah. Yeah. Then that's that's a lot. That's twice as many people that were at Trump's inauguration. It was it was it was. Why would you push over the cars? That's a big thing for the French to be violent. They haven't been violent a long time. You got to really rile him up. They've been protesting a lot over the last like violent for short. Periods of time. They never see it through French president Macron praised the security forces for their courage and their professionalism. He also added shimmy on those who attacked them. Shame on those who assaulted other citizens and journalists shame on you do not do that the arrest goes. Trump went on Twitter to kick mccrone while he was down. He said, the large violet French protests. Don't take an account how badly the United States has been treated on trade by the EU or the European Union or unfair and reasonable payments for our great military protection. Both these topics must be remedied soon. So he was addressing French president Macron, so my chrome. Hit a bad two weeks this guy. But I think that he probably is not concerned about Trump's Twitter attacks right now, he's probably trying to stay alive in his like whole with like behind somebody walls and barriers hoping that a bunch of yellow vests don't kill him Trump's really crowbar in his way into this thing. Yeah. Why is this protests going on it's because the price of diesel the most commonly used fool in French cars has risen by around. Twenty three percent over the past twelve months to an average of one point five one euros per liter, which is like about six to eight dollars a gallon cheese. It's like triple what what we're paying in the United States, depending on where you're living. But they got those little cars, and they don't have they got short distances so far to go. Yeah. It was actually the trigger. They're not saying, that's the only reason basically what happened is a bunch of these poor people in lower middle class. People are saying the rich are too rich were too poor. We're getting taxed too much richer. Not taking the brunt of the taxation. We are we have to wear these stupid fucking yellow. Vests sounds familiar. Exactly. That's why they're protesting the trigger was the petrol. But basically all they're all wearing the yellow vest as a sign of like fuck, you stop making us where yellow vest because in two thousand eight there was a law kind of like our seatbelt law where you have to have a yellow vest in your car at all times in case you have to pull over and like do service. They are they made you have a life jacket for your car. Exactly that it's a life jacket soft. So so Francis time all-time soft corner. Like all time QB, they're all time soft corner one of the softest laws of all time. Good luck. France. We. We had a similar movement that that worked wonders it was called Occupy Wall street. It really changed the game. It's a lot like Occupy Wall street nip, but they're wearing the yellow vest because they're mad about having to wear the elephants. They they get a large fine if they're caught without him. So to recap this is just a bunch of low middle class lower middle class French people having extremely violent protests sounds kind of like the French revolution or tried to do a nineteen sixty eight at least we got a tale of two cities out of the French revolution. So maybe we'll get a classic novel out of this bullshit and say to the internet where Melissa, hey, bare hill says this is what will be coming to America. If liberal get their way. So if liberal if you win liberal, good point, listen. Look out. This is going to be coming our way, which I don't know me shut says not only the fuel taxes. We are angry for everything we pull our middle class in retirees must pay pay pay and the reaches nothing, not angry face devil fee. Smiley face cry face, all these different faces. Kiss my ass needs some geez. All right. Let's get to some other headlines. We couldn't get to it's come to light that someone bought a trailer from storage wars auction near Dan Dotson that contained a safe within that safe. There happened to be seven point five million in cash of the people who quote lost that cash found out. It had been found and got their lawyers to exchange one point two million in cash for the new owner to return the remaining six point three million in cash to the original owner and something tells me that was an offer that they could not refuse right? They got their lawyers lieutenants to offer to not kill their families. If they pay them some money your kids, right? No, you can keep the seven point five million. If you want you just better start running for the rest of you. Yeah. Yeah. On buses. There's a seventy percent chance he will live on Mars and potentially die on Mars in his lifetime. That's probably just means that there's a seventy percent chance that he will ever make it to Mars because Ilan himself admits that there's a quote good possibility that you die there. Seventy percent is like when I tell someone that if I'm thinking about going somewhere, and I'm like, I'm like seventy percent. That means I'm not going. Yeah. That's not that high number. There's one hundred percent chance. Elon Musk is going to wear as welcome out on earth, though. So. I might want to go Marsh and other space news. There's a possibility that a seven hundred foot wide asteroid could smash down on the earth and twenty twenty three. But don't hold your breath. I'm pretty sure this is just NASA. Trying to stay in the news. Oh, burn on NASA. Sorry nasa. There's competition in town seven hundred feet. It's nothing. Would would crush New York City seven hundred feet wide. It's a an going seven hundred thirty four million miles. I mean, it's not it's not a pet if it doesn't land in the ocean. It's destroying like an entire like state. Yeah. West it'll be fine though. It'll be fine. It'd be this is just this. I'm not worried Pat, this is not going to happen. This is literally just nasty and saying like ou could happen line. All right, one in thirty million chance Egyptians are cracking open sarcophagi like their bud lights on the fourth of July. This time they opened up a three thousand year old woman who was well preserved with several colorful masks in miniature statues inside. Why? Why don't they just keep discovering new like tombs instead of board like the desecrating graves Abrahams? Abrahams over there. It's going to end poorly. Yeah. It's like the start to a horror movie like this. Yeah. Exactly. Like a disease like in in the tomb raider movie. There's gonna be like a disease or something or like, some some bug gets gets up. Exactly. Why don't they desecrated grows? They open them. They're like, it's the exact same thing. Like there was a body in their body and toys, save great jazz five thousand mummies, it's time to give Amazon your age, sex and location. If if you want them to send you a special delivery. That's right. It's cyber Monday. A fake holiday created just a few years ago that will surely fade into oblivion within the next decade cyber Monday as a time for anyone with an online store to sell you their extra inventory at a large discount. So enjoy the deals are love that. I haven't ciphered in such a long might wanna order in send some fire extinguishers the shop. They say that's a good point, Pat. Maybe if they just turned cyber Monday into a day where people try to engage in cybersex that would bring it back bring the holiday back. So what I'm saying man take often lot? Yeah. Cock. Lot the south Sudanese man who got shamed. For buying his bride on Facebook has responded to the world basically saying, hey, this is normal where I live and he's right. It's just weird that Facebook allows you to range human dates with dogs in some countries and forcibly silences political commentators and others. And that's it for heart factor today. Thank you for listening and following us at heart factor. News on Twitter and Instagram. We've got some ideas in the works. I am happy hour broadcasts. Maybe some contests. Amongst the hosts to stay tuned for those and make sure to buy your Elon Musk Mars baby ugly, Christmas sweater. It's amazing. Thank you again for listening. We'll talk to you again tomorrow.