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"yanukovich" Discussed on X96
"With Mr Amy Donaldson. Yes, it's Edward K brass attorney at law and we believe Birthday boy. Is that correct? Mr Braff's You believe correctly Happy birthday. Yeah. You're you're welcome. Thanks. Hmm. We don't celebrate. No, no, no. Uh, now It's it's Let's let's have some sports then, shall we? Mr. Brown will have some sports because this is the authentic frontier gibberish edition of Very important Sports. Yeah, perfect. For for Pittsburgh listener, Mauricio Paya's The star of the Spanish language version of the office in McAllen, Texas. Role months. My arm. Uh, there are no Formula one races this weekend. Next stop is the French Grand Prix on June 20th from Lou Castel, a bar? Speaking of France, the French Open Barbara Credit. Cova defeated Anastasia Pablo Trick Ova, uh, in all communists Final 610664. In the men's side. Novak Djokovic defeated define us to C bus. A Greek gentleman. Yanukovich lost the first two sets 62762 but won the last 35763. 62644 hours it took to do down the temperature of the high eighties. Yankovich is on his way to a grand slam. He won the Australian Open in February. Next up is Wimbledon and the U. S open. Did you see him give give his racket to that kid at the end of the match like Looks like a 12 year old. It looks like a 12 year old kid, and he walked when, when he won. Djokovic walked over to the sidelines and the kid was there with his parents in the stands, and he and he gave the kid his racket. And the kid just went crazy. And reporters just said Why did you give that kid your your racket and give him a Coca Cola? Mhm. He said he was I could hear his. Um I could hear his voice in my ear throughout the entire four hours. He kept yelling at me Play to his backhand play to his back end. Do this. Do that shit! He was coaching me, so I gave him my racket. Wow. She should have been penalized The coaching point. Yeah, and I think he's also trying to refurbishes image because he was a covid denier. Yeah, he created a little mini tour last year. It's right. And everyone on I got covid. He got covid. His wife got Kobe. He's now opposed to immunizing other players. In football in the European Championships. Denmark midfielder late of totting him and now Peter Milan 29 years old Christian Eriksen. Suffered a full cardiac arrest in a match versus didn't want he just like face planted. He just like in the middle of the field just really dropped. Wow. Yeah, The doctor said he was dead, He said he was gone was revived by defibrillator. He's going to be all right. But those guys are the fittest athletes in the world, and, uh, the notion that he had a heart attack is extremely frightening and I suppose you'll be checked over to see if he can continue place. He's very good. The European Championships happen every four years. Zero postpone from 2020. The leaders right now, and the groups are group A Italy rookie Belgium. Belgium will win it all groups see Austria Group The England Group E Poland. Group of friends. Also in football. Salt Lake Community College women were in the finals of the N C championships and lost zero attitude. Tyler, Texas, They went into that room. Second in the country, you Salt Lake community College men from Taylor's still you time I went out one the National Junior College championship, defeating Iowa Western 2 to 1. That program is is five years old. That's all it is. You've already won a national championship. Why? I'm sure that's up to investigators. For getting so good so fast? Yeah, in the NBA, A Brooklyn Next bodies are Europeans in an argument between Brooklyn's Kevin Durant's in Milwaukee's P. J. Tucker to graduates of the University of Texas and bumped and bumped into this guy. He thought that he needed to protect his man. He's been banned from the rest of the playoffs. Really. On Saturday, the Clippers blast of the Jazz 132 206 in Los Angeles. Flips outscored the Jazz by 15 In the fourth quarter, Donovan Mitchell had 30 points. Mike Conley is still out with the stream hamstring. The Jazz still leave the best of seven series 2 to 1. I don't care. That's it. I'm done with him. I'm done with him. Yeah, yeah, you and many other people the the bandwagon as much later today. Oh, yeah, It's not Being held down by as much weight as it was the NFL thorough suits of the very important sports archives Plaza is failed to turn up to Tom Brady. Rookie card. Uh, Tim Tebow is in the Jacksonville Jaguars treating team Does it tie them six years after his last NFL game was a quarterback? And Jerome Baker, a third round draft choice from the Ohio State in the Miami Dolphins, contractors working contracts up to sign the extensions with $39 million In the National Hockey League Senior Cup semi finals in the East. Newark Islanders versus the Tampa Bay Lightning. 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"yanukovich" Discussed on 790 KABC
"Back now on the Dan Bongino Show. Here's Ah Movie script. Wall Street Journal 2007 Such screenshot number two Crazy Joe, who appears here. Paul Manafort back in 7 4007 No way yes, way yes, way Ski. Paul Manafort, A former advisor to Mr Dole's presidential campaign, has advised the Ukrainian medals billionaire in close political ally Viktor Yanukovich, who favors closer ties with the Putin administration. So just to be clear Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS who pays Christopher Steele is writing an article he's really concerned about Paul Manafort's ties to Russia. This is 2000 and seven. Manafort, then magically appears in the Trump campaign. And then what happens? Manafort, all of a sudden becomes a target of an FBI investigation. Based on a fake black ledger of payments allegedly made to Manafort or you don't believe me. Check out this article by John Solomon when he was over the hill before the hill one Crazy John Solomon Hill. FBI warned early and often that the Manafort file might be a fake. And used it anyway. I'm going to throw out to you that the large majority of the fake pp dossier was a story. Christopher Simpson wrote 2007 All of the players who reappear in the dossier against Trump. And if they re appear they are targeted based on fake information like Manafort, where they produced Magically a fake dossier off called the Black Ledger that appeared out of Ukraine. Look, We gotta investigate Manafort. We've got this ledger of payments he was made him pay taxes on it was all fake. Just like the Alfa Bank Trump Tower connection Fake But they needed fake information because they needed to go back to Christopher Simpson. Glenn Simpson. Excuse me, his movie script. To make it a scene that it was real. All right. Dan Alfa appears in 2007. Manafort. You got anything else I always do. This is a fascinating one. So back in 2007 Glenn Simpson writes in The Wall Street Journal. But Ole Dara Posca, who has close ties to the Kremlin, and emerged from the aluminum wars of the nineties, with a virtual monopoly on the nation's aluminum production. Terrapass has long been dogged by allegations from rivals that he uses bribery, intimidation and violence to amass his fortune. Oleg Dara Posca, So we know back in 2007. Glenn Simpson's really interested Alfa Bank Mouthful bank appears in the dossier against Trump. Wow. Crazy interested in Paul Manafort. Manafort appears in the dossier with Trump crazy using fake information a target. Now we know Dara pasta's in that 2007 article. There's no way he reappears in the scheme to take down Trump inspires right off course he reappears. Let's go to this Fox News article. Fox News Democrats Senator Mark Warner, who conveniently was on the intelligence committee targeting Trump texted with a Russian oligarch lobbyist in an effort to contact the dossier author Christopher Steele, who's the Russian oligarch? No way, Ladies and gentlemen. Yes, way it's all laid. Dara Posca, who appears back in the 2007 movie script article. Michael and Simpson paid by Hillary Clinton to gin up fake information on Donald Trump. Now you may say, Gosh, this can't get any worse. Ladies and gentlemen, as I say, every day, it always gets worse. Everyone. Glenn Simpson seems to be interested in this journalism career. If you want to call it that, back in 2007 seems to magically reappear in this fantastic pp tape story, he writes again. To target Donald Trump. He talked a movie script. Simpson attached fake information to really Name's Christopher Steele, Dan Chiang Cho and others and just had them rewrite a dossier. Steele told you he was instructed by Simpson to put this stuff in there. Simpson wrote Pista. Here's the last one from the movie script, so he also writes around about this guy Dimitriou for Tash. He says he talks about his company, High Rock holdings controlled by Demetrio for attache Ukranian businessman who acknowledges the company's major shareholders once included Miss Mr Mogul, a vet's wife. So back in 2007 again. Glenn Simpson has an unusual interest in this guy. Dimitriou for Tess. Here's where the case gets interesting with the George Soros angle just takes you right in the gut. So who is Dimitri? Oh, for Tash. Well. In short far Tash is a business rival off the infamous George Soros. You know, liberal billionaire mega donor who's got his tentacles and all kinds of things. Racist in the United States, political action committees liberal causes everywhere, far left anti law and order district attorney's races. Soros's money is everywhere. For Tash is an enemy of sorrows. It's interesting that Glen Simpson has a really interesting for Tash. Trying to take for cash down. So Russell made me to do with that. May see that's an interesting angle. How does it relate to the dossier that appeared on all the anti trump conspiracy theories had appeared later on? Let's goto another article at the formerly Excellent hill now a pile of trash when John Solomon was still there, it was great the hill. US Embassy Press Ukraine to drop Probe of George Soros during the 2016 election. Remember this story? This is fascinating. So for caste who Simpson writes about in a movie script. Is an enemy of George Source. A business a business rival of George Soros Service has a really interesting for Tash. Not a good one. From that help ease. This is gets really interesting. So there's a memo that was circulate, including a chart of the Ukrainians the Soros team wanted to have pursued Including some with ties to Manafort, who magically appears in the movie script, too. Senior law.
"yanukovich" Discussed on The Clear Evidence
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"yanukovich" Discussed on KGO 810
"Watch a knuckle heads in Washington discussing whether or not to allow witnesses and we don't know there's a problem the vote could be Saturday right it could be I think it's going to happen tomorrow right I mean they're gonna debates having witnesses again here's the deal McConnell already knows whether or not he has the votes or not but do we send does anybody really know what happens if it's fifty fifty and I think if it's fifty fifty a guide gives an advantage to McConnell to advance the other person to say you're gonna create a constitutional crisis so I mean the three people that I don't think it's calling is more Caskey and Romney and maybe Corker I just yeah I think those who could be my slowing down you know who knows I mean obviously the momentum of the Bolton announcement has dissipated at least it feels like it you know I mean I think that were also people that follow extremely closely so I think that all I mean I don't think everybody else does so you know who knows that's why I'm optimistic I think that the Democrats laid out a very good case for at least showing the witnesses I DO and if the other side does not then then you already know that they didn't go into it you know with an open mind or anything else and and that's what it is it is what it is well you've heard the knuckle heads of call today about yeah Biden in this guys email me about Rico statutes as of late so once you got on that that that that rabbit hole you know I mean even like you know you were going and you were looking at the time lines right and I with the way I explained it it's you know you can Joe Biden was the vice president I'd states which means that the all you can do is is a lobby working on behalf of the Obama administration I'm a little bottle again you go back and look bomber was against us getting involved with you know the in the interim president and then later on Yanukovich yeah his goal was to deal with Russia the deal with Putin and again ultimately control Putin and you control the the Sir that you know the annexation of anymore countries and so he did he didn't want us to get too involved in Ukraine he thought it made us vulnerable so you know what Biden one it is the same thing but I did want to back in the nineties as US senator which is freedom and an anti corrupt state the irony these guys have turned around and said he's the corrupt influence is insane I mean this is okay his son taken that job yeah I just wonder now like had the kid not take a kid had that man not taken that job you know what what would it have come up with them right now they would have come up with something and again it was investigated in it there was no interaction large companies in Ukraine yeah so anyway so that's that's kind of world that said so we got the cab asphalt coming up and I and then of course Jon Rothman they'll be a little best of John L. at the end of the game and of a tomorrow would be the whole thing will be you know fig day big day you know it could end tomorrow we never know I I think it's likely to cause or any carry it on KGO start over I would definitely recommend to be listening and well not that early we're on a summer your body's anyway that's the follow her on Twitter at follow me on that you're Franklin this is latest Westwood One.
"yanukovich" Discussed on KOMO
"And today I haven't heard any one of my Republican colleagues address that question Irvine mint and miss Williams thank you I wanted to ask some questions and go through the background what's come out during this process is that we had to Ukraine policies one was bipartisan and long standing and that was to assist you crane which should freedoms you're free to solve from the domination of Russia to fight corruption interest this Russian aggression is that a fair statement colonel then I think that's a fair characterization arson end to give folks a reminder of the extent of correct corruption by the way a legacy of Putin's Russia Russia is it your understanding that when their prior president Mr Yanukovich fled to Russia into the arms of Mr Putin he took with him thirty to forty billion dollars of that impoverished country those are there different estimates but it's on that scale yes fast scale for a poor country it is it your understanding that powerless but motivated Ukrainians rose up in protest to this incredible Grafton theft and abuse by their president that is correct and that was in the may down it was called the may Dan revolution the revolution of dignity correct correct and young people went into that square in downtown Kiev in demonstrated for months correct and a hundred died one hundred and six young people died in older people died correct that was in in in in between February eighteenth twenty fourteen in February twenty two is that correct correct all right ten fourteen homeowners ready will continue with the coverage of the house impeachment inquiry in just.
"yanukovich" Discussed on KGO 810
"Political opponents and today I haven't heard any one of my Republican colleagues address that question colonel vin mint and miss Williams thank you I want to ask some questions and go through the background what's come out during this process is that we had to Ukraine policies one was bipartisan in long standing and that was to assist Ukraine which should freedoms you're free to solve from the domination of Russia to fight corruption in to resist Russian aggression is that a fair statement colonel then I think that's a fair characterization arsenal end to give folks a reminder of the extent of correct corruption by the way a legacy of Putin's Russia Russia is it your understanding that when their prior president Mr Yanukovich fled to Russia into the arms of Mr Putin he took with him thirty to forty billion dollars of that impoverished country those are there different estimates but it's on that scale yes fast scale for a poor country it is it your understanding that powerless but motivated Ukrainians rose up in protest to this incredible Grafton theft and abuse by their president that is correct in that was in the may down it was called the maid and revolution the revolution of dignity correct correct end young people went into that square in downtown Kiev in demonstrated for months correct wrecked and died one hundred and six young people died in older people died correct that was in in in in between February eighteenth twenty fourteen in February twenty two is that correct correct a hundred and six died including people who were shot by snipers kids Indiana Kovic had put snipers on the roof tops of buildings tissue into that square in kill murder slaughter those young people is that your understanding that is correct in our bi partisan support by the way I want to say to my Republican colleagues a lot of leadership to have this bipartisan support came from your side thank you but our whole commitment was to get rid of corruption in to stop that Russian aggression is that correct that amounts to some of the key pillars that's right end the Giuliani Simon in appears trump policy was not about that it was about investigations into a political opponent correct I'll take that question back we know it in you know I'll say this the president trump you want to investigate Joe Biden you want to investigate hunter Biden still had it.
"yanukovich" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Guiliani has sought to get Ukraine's government to investigate Joe Biden's son hunters business dealings and trump asked Ukraine's new president to investigate and discredited theory that Ukraine was involved in the twenty sixteen hack of the democratic national committee's emails we're going to take a closer look at you crane and help players and its own turbulent politics have interacted with American actors in the impeachment saga our guest is Andrew Kramer a reporter for The New York Times who's based in Moscow and has been reporting on Ukraine for several years in twenty seventeen he shared a Pulitzer Prize with his times colleagues for an investigative series on Russia's use of covert means to exert its power enter Kramer spoke to fresh air is Dave Davies yesterday from a studio in kia enter Kramer welcome to fresh air you know Ukraine's been in in the independent country just since nineteen ninety one and it hasn't exactly been a smooth transition and reading about the events in recent years crush lots of tales of corruptions of oligarchs being connected the politicians of prosecutions that in some cases may be seen politically connected everybody has an angle it seems enough wonder if you could just could you talk a bit about kia of what it's like and what it's like reporting there Kiev is a beautiful city it has cobblestone streets old quarters on bluffs overlooking the napa river it's also a city that in recent years has been the equivalent of some of the Cold War dans of intrigue are like for lan or maybe yeah you might compare to casa Blanka in in World War two a city that's in between two two forces between two struggling or competing political systems so you have spies agents journalists of Russia and of the west all active in the city it's gonna be hard to figure out when you're getting the real story right well that's certainly the case there's been a lot of misinformation in Ukraine I'm not these because Ukraine has been on the front lines of of some of the Russian disinformation activities in recent years but it's also been a place for spin doctors from the west and Ukraine's own oligarchs and politicians who are presenting different narratives about this country's future and how this country should interact with the west and it's it's actually these competing narratives which is part of the story behind the impeachment inquiry in the United States now Ukraine is a pretty large country forty two million people historically dominated by Russia at least in recent decades but in that and in the past by other empires and now there are connections with the west and ambitions among Ukrainian politicians for closer ties to the United States and western countries how does Ukraine's geo political position affect its domestic politics well that's really a pivotal issue in in Ukraine's domestic politics is the clashing geo political ambitions of of countries around Ukraine and it's not a new story for this country when the modern Ukraine was formed in the seventeenth century on the step land between the western Europe and the Russian empire it was already being pulled in both directions we see this in the twentieth century we see it again in twenty first century when Ukraine gained independence in nineteen ninety one it was closely linked to Russia there were industrial supply chains that link to Ukraine to Russia energy pipelines and Europe was polling Ukraine away from the former Soviet Union from the former Soviet space and at the same time Russia was pulling back and it was this clash in the struggle for Ukraine that really defined its foreign policy and also its domestic policy of the past thirty years right and and then it's in recent years moved more to the west and has looked for friends and allies in the US and other countries does that help explain why operatives like Paul man a fort could become so active and hunter Biden might end up on the board of the gas company well that's exactly right you have ambitious actors in Ukraine oligarchs and politicians who are looking for patrons in the west particularly after the two thousand fourteen revolution but also before then and willing to pay large sums of money to align themselves with lobbyists or or politicians in United States and we saw this famously with Paul man a fort but also Rudolph guiliani has has taken contracts from Ukrainian oligarchs hunter Biden Donald Trump was paid one hundred fifty thousand dollars by Ukraine oligarch to give a speech and in two thousand fifteen Hillary Clinton for the Clinton foundation also accepted money from that oligarchs so a lot of western figures have found a source of profit in Ukraine and and have chosen these wealthy Ukrainians as their guides to the country and in exchange for money accepted some of their narrative in their ideas of about what you crane should become and this is the backdrop to what's happening today so let's talk about some of the recent history in twenty fourteen there were street demonstrations and clashes which resulted in the departure of the president Viktor Yanukovych tell us about him what kind of it what kind of regime well certainly victory out of coverage was a a politician who was allied with Russia but also like many Ukrainian politicians was trying to straddle the fence he had entered and negotiations on trade agreements both with Russia and with the European Union and this came to a head in two thousand thirteen when he realized he wouldn't be able to sign these agreements with both camps with both the European Union with Russia and after initially promising his people promising that he would integrate Ukraine economically with the European Union at the very last moment he switched and made a trade agreement with Russia which was part of a larger political project of Vladimir Putin to re integrate parts of the former Soviet Union in what became known as the Eurasian union street protests broke out against this policy and they snowballed into ever larger protests on independence square until February of two thousand fourteen when police opened fire into the crowd there was infection on both sides but a lot of protestors protestors bore the brunt of this violence in in about seventy people were killed in the space of an hour and a half or so on independence square and thousands were wounded over several days this resulted in Yanukovych fleeing Kiev when his police exerted him and departing for for Moscow leaving a power vacuum in the Ukrainian capital that was only gradually filled first over weeks and then for months with the new government that was propped up by the United States and win demonstrators reached the for the residents that Yanukovych had inhabited and got inside what they find well I I was within the demonstrators who came in it was a foggy morning in late February and and some of them climbed over a gate and then and then broke it open and you even have a really view of opulence that was almost unimaginable for for most Ukrainians I'm a private golf course a collection of antique cars the zoo with ostriches and a number of other luxuries but in intriguingly also what they found we're we're documents floating in a river harbour and some documents which had been partly burned I mean it was these documents that were never meant to come to the surface never meant to be seen by the public that really were a ticking time bomb for the intersection of Ukrainian politics and and U. S. politics because hidden in this collection of documents found not just at the residence but also on the floor of a of a sauna of a former prosecutor and in a safe in the former political party of Mr Yanukovich we're details of Paul mana for its work in Ukraine mana for had helped Yanukovych get power and then was still active in Ukraine after after Yanukovych left when remnants of his party have remained active tell us about what these documents said and what impact they had owned Paul man a fort in the trump campaign well certainly yeah it turned out that the most extensive records of men for its activities in Ukraine were included in in the hand written accounting documents kept by the party of regions the party of former president Yanukovych and they included payments designated for manta Ford for things like pulling for even overhead items like computers for his office as well as payments for his consulting services over several years totaling twelve point seven million dollars these were off the book payments and were considered illegal in Ukraine and when we wrote about this in in August of two thousand sixteen Manford and his attorneys denied that this could be the case and suggests the documents were forged but there was a lot of confidence in fact they were not and we publish the story and metaphor resigned from the campaign about a week later and just to kind of set the context here in this is Victor Yanukovich who who lived in opulence in what was regarded as you know rich is essentially stolen from the Ukrainian people it was a pro Russian president he flees and then it's in the records of his party that you find the secret payments to manta form not at all helpful to the trump campaign is this what part of the origin of trump's belief that Ukrainians were always out to get him and help Hillary Clinton I think so you saw now in in the most recent episodes involving Ukraine went trump released the transcript of this call with Ukrainian president he was talking about bad things that happened in Ukraine and things that our country meaning America went through because of Ukraine also we know from some of the interviews and and testimony of diplomats and and aides to president trump in the inquiry that the trumpet said that Ukraine try to take him down in two thousand sixteen and and most of this feeling most of this impression I believe is related to the disclosures of financial wrongdoing by by his campaign chairman all manner for which was a blow to the trump campaign in in August of two thousand sixteen you know when you look at events in Ukraine it seems that high profile prosecutions are pretty common have they become just an accepted weapon and political competition there what when when protesters took to the streets of Kievan in two thousand fourteen the the politicized use of of the prosecutor's office was one of the issues that they were protesting against one of the symbols of the uprising on independence square was a poster showing the face of a former prime minister Yulia Timoshenko is best known in the west for her long blonde braid she wasn't imprisoned by the present at the time Viktor Yanukovych Mr mission go ahead run against Yanukovych in two thousand ten and lost and then soon after the election she was locked up in in prison on charges which were widely seen as as political and had been in jail for several years by the time that protest came about but it was a poignant symbol of the type of problem in their government that was upsetting protesters what were the charges against him a shingle this woman who ran against your coat check out was was charged and convicted with exceeding her authority in negotiating a natural gas deal with Russia the accusation was that as prime minister she could not give a direct order to the head of the government control natural gas company but rather this order need to come via the energy.
"yanukovich" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Of the most celebrated writers artists and thinkers of our day before an audience of the Sydney Goldstine theater in San this week MSNBC host Rachel Maddow talks about the oil and gas industry's impact on democracy worldwide time in Russia's interference in the twenty sixteen presidential election the impeachment inquiry of Donald Trump and more on October sixth two thousand nineteen Rachel Maddow came to the Sydney Goldstine theater to read from her new book blow out corrected democracy rogue state Russia and the richest most destructive industry on earth Maddow spoke to Dan Pfeiffer former adviser to president Barack Obama and now co host of pot save America join us now for conversation with Rachel Maddow you won't many of you I find this emotionally hard to accept part of the way that I'm with this problem is that I'm putting on glasses that will allow me to see none of you so I hope you don't mind if I start just by reading a little bit of the book that the bad news is is that I had picked out a really funny section but I thought would totally sleigh which is about walruses there's a funny section of the book about walruses and then the president started getting impeached and so I feel like I didn't do it I commend to you the portion of the book on walruses but I feel like because we are now in the midst of impeachment proceedings I do feel like Lee I ended up writing this part of the book that ended up helpful for understanding what's going on in the news right now and I did not know that was coming it was by no means my intention but I I think this is the part that I want to read today and I will say why because of three little things that have happened in the news including one thing that just happened on my way over here the first of these three things in the news that maybe want to read the section of the book is that there was a little noticed story that the president and his lawyer Mr Giuliani how been consulting with the president's former campaign chairman Paul man a fort who is in prison specifically for this scheme they were trying to pull off with with leveraging the Ukrainian government extorting the Ukrainian government it's a helping president trump with stuff he could use against the Democrats and Joe Biden for twenty twenty they've been specifically getting advice on that from Paul man a fort who is a federal prisoner one piece of news that is relevant turns out another piece of news which happens or something happened last weekend is that again this scheme for which the president is being impeached where they are trying to throw these accusations that Joe Biden and have the Ukrainian government help them do that and that will help him get reelected somehow part of the way they are trying to make that case against Joe Biden part of the way they're trying to you know wave stuff around in the air and saying this is this is what you crane should do to go after Biden is that they've got a sworn statement from a former Ukrainian prosecutor which was provided to Rudy Giuliani to the trump side by a man named Dimitri Firtash so Paul metaphor is in prison Dimitri for cash is not in prison but he is under arrest and out on bail because they allowed him to write a one hundred and seventy four million dollar bill check I know we need bill reform if you can write a check for a hundred and seventy four million dollars for your mail what makes them think you'll miss that money you know like you would if you had a hundred and seventy five million dollars you wouldn't write a check for a hundred and seventy four I get down your last million right like presumably that's not a big deal to him not a big deal to him so Firtash is as been arrested he's out on bail he is fighting extradition to the United States for an elaborate bribery scheme that the U. S. prosecutors want to put him on trial for a may have for years in their court filings about for touch they describe him as an upper echelon associate of Russian organized crime so on the scheme or trying to pull off in Ukraine for which trump is being impeached they're getting strategic advice from imprisoned Paul metaphor and from this guy who was a operate on the sensitive Russian organized crime is fighting extradition to the United States and then the other thing that happened I'm on my way over did you see this AP story the guys who Giuliani has been working with on the ground and you can you can the guys he's been bringing with him to Kiev to go meet with Ukrainians in part I think because he doesn't speak Ukrainian those guys have been running a scheme along side this whole thing with trump and guiliani where they've been trying to replace the board of directors former Ukrainian natural gas company so that they can take over that Ukrainian natural gas company and give contracts to themselves and their friends so obviously what president trump and usually on your doing is really trying to crack down on corruption so this will work out other than the president definitely being impeached but with those so that's what's happening in the news I feel like I should be investigated because I wrote a book over the past year and a half and the time at the time it came out the president was being impeached for stuff and so involving exactly the same people anyway so just wanna read this one little section of it the biggest threat Putin had to keep at bay was the prospect of strong rich stable western oriented democracies in Russia's near abroad that sort of thing could not only challenge or constrain Russia's regional power it could conceivably the horror inspire the Russian people themselves leading them to demand a democratic say in their own government as well the solution for Putin was simple use Russian natural gas and oil not only to make money for the Russian state but also to keep neighboring countries corrupt and dependent it's also many problems it reduced expectations for democratic governance and the rule of law in those countries rated a corruptly empowered political class invested in preserving the Russian dependent system that enriched its practitioners and their families it also created comfortable space for organized crime to flourish Firtash the Russian government under Putin's control has steadily become more integrated with all kinds of transnational organized crime in the former Soviet sphere and not just because Putin has tended to attract the kinds of broken nose toughs who would otherwise be called henchmen if Putin hadn't made them so rich the beauty of pollutants ever deepening kinship with the mob was that it gave him a whole other set of levers with which to settle problems and to make problematic people go away whenever it might be unseemly to wield the overt powers of the state Putin steam in the Kremlin was delighted to utilize a man with Dimitri Firtash is special skills and talents to shape Ukraine to prudence liking to turn it from its increasingly worrying flirtation with the west with the European Union with god maybe even NATO Fulton cut Firtash a sweetheart deal in Ukraine Firtash formed a new company which was given the exclusive right to buy gas from Russia to sell to Ukraine at a very large profit Ukraine could just as easily have bought the gas directly with no middle man and no mark up but Putin wanted both the middle man and the markup it costs Gazprom the Russian natural gas company a pretty penny straight out of Russian government coffers but it was worth it for tax as well as some of Clinton's other Ukrainian oligarchs we have plenty of cash to spread around to shape their country in ways that Putin would appreciate some of that cash did go back to Moscow as tribute but even more of it went to prop up the party of regions led by Victor Yanukovich that meant a whole bunch of that many passed through or ended up in the offshore bank accounts of a mercenary American political operative named Paul man a fort metaphor help the Moscow friendly party of regions when a solid plurality in the two thousand six parliamentary elections he then spent the next few years doing in Ukraine's strongest opposition orange party leaders especially prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko Timoshenko is a particular threat to Moscow's influence in Ukraine she made herself the front runner in the twenty ten presidential election by seizing on that Russian sweetheart gas deal for Dimitri for cash she promised to end of that deal with for tasks skimming off hundreds of millions of dollars every year and she made a good case why on earth should for taxes company be allowed to siphon off eight hundred million dollars in a single year by playing a middle man that nobody needed well metaphor in his team went right at prime minister Tymoshenko with full force they help drive for approval ratings down to twenty percent six months before the twenty ten presidential election even her renegotiation of the Russia Ukraine natural gas deal in two thousand nine which she accomplished she read did that deal she cut for cash out even that wasn't enough to sway a majority of voters to her metaphors guy the end of it she squeezed by her and into the presidency in February twenty ten metaphor receive much credit for the article which victory and a rich new contract as the new Ukrainian president offsite political adviser and then what did he do with that one of you had a co which is first acts as president was too sick a rabid state prosecutor on Yulia Tymoshenko lock her up yeah the coverages prosecutor charge Tymoshenko with the crime of abusing her official powers by illegally arranging the new Firtash free gas deal with Russia without they said the required bureaucratic sign offs she got rid of that correct deals so they locked her up for corruption Timoshenko had a lot of sympathy in the United States and Europe so metaphor got right to work on a multi part expensive public relations campaign to destroy her in the United States and in Ukraine with too much like a stash safely in prison trashed by American PR firms and law firms and anyone else metaphor could get in on the gig Russia's man in Ukraine Dimitri Firtash got back into the gas deal which is better than ever his company's operating profit for the years twenty twelve and twenty thirteen added up to nearly four billion dollars with that kind of money available for corrupting any actual governance in the interests of the people in Ukraine pollutants natural gas monopoly hovered over the heads of the Ukrainian people like a sword putting could tell things were going well when you had a coverage reneged on his campaign promise to move Ukraine toward greater cooperation with and perhaps even membership in the European Union Fulton knew that wouldn't that couldn't ever happened the problem was the Ukrainian people appear to really like the idea even after Putin promised fifteen billion dollars worth of new aid to Ukraine the will of the Ukrainian people was still clear they wanted the E. U. no matter Putin's largesse the orange side revolted again and what started on November twenty first twenty thirteen is a small demonstration in the Maidan grew in just a few days to a one hundred thousand person protest the demonstrators took over the Maidan square in Kiev they refused to leave a violent crackdown by police in the last days of November didn't call the enthusiasm in the face of yet a code which is armed security forces determined protesters strapped on pots and pans as makeshift armor and took to the streets the crowds kept on coming and growing putting thought the cold Kiev January would break the crowd if the security forces could not he was wrong in February as the Sochi Olympics kicked off they were still there by the tens of thousands wearing their makeshift twenty first century defensive kitchen where huddle for war around trash can fires it has had more had more from a demonstration about the E. U. question into a demonstration about democracy itself about the will of the governed Ukrainians were calling it the revolution of dignity the demonstrators in Kiev for gaining courage in numbers on February eighteenth twenty fourteen they armed themselves with sling shots and brave the gauntlet of Yanukovych's armed security forces and they marched on the Ukrainian parliament when you had a coverage is security forces started killing protesters that afternoon the crowds were treated to their barricades in the Maidan they remained there through a terrifying night protected by a ring of fire yeah the coverages security forces broke out the machine guns they scrambled rooftop snipers the next day and the civilian casualty lists just grew and grew one defiant protester standing behind a makeshift a makeshift shield wearing a plastic helmet and a surgical mask yelled we are not afraid to die for freedom freedom is for us freedom is ours we will win and Ukraine will be part of Europe and Ukraine will be part of the free world and will never be slaves we will be free putting watched it all with a growing sense of dread and a growing sense of anger here at his doorstep was the western conspiracy America was the cause of all this mess he was sure this one last little bit of finish up here on the.
"yanukovich" Discussed on 860AM The Answer
"That real clear politics is up but then as per your dot com and when his book comes out we'll have a mom again both the against the president and Kevin now and Devin newness but you were you were talking about your piece Ukraine and I it's rob did you just as you were coming to right now it's okay should should there's a lot to cover and what one of the points that I want to try to drive home to people is that not nearly even about the by then both about get the prosecutor fired we need to go back to two thousand fourteen Joe Biden and the state department very active forcing out one cranium president in the U. Clea Euromaidan protests are forcing out victory in a code that you happen to be the guy that Paul mana for who you work for one salient factors you've heard over the last three years all men of four I DO used as evidence of the champions Russia's ties to continue crane and you work for Viktor Yanukovych was pro pollutant but as it turns out that the exact exactly the opposite is true why trying to push he was trying to push you in a cold **** closer to the new year right so why all these lines first of all this continued belies an absolute indictment a Washington foreign policy class right but no one could have said that look at the different people we have working in the city on Russia and Ukraine I'm not one of them was capable of standing up but actually the press campaign against mana Fortin shop I I you know I'm not gonna take up about this not that but I got to tell you what manifold was doing was in parallel to the Obama administration we're pushing the same thing for yet a couple weeks to get closer to Europe so how did this happen I thought that was evidence that metaphor with the Russian stooge like all of the trump but like all of the trumpets in so that these things start to shake out in two thousand fourteen that's when Biden son is appointed and again remember get a call which I had to throw all these you know all these different slot Slavic names that Ukrainian Russian and he gets a little complicated yeah remember mana for who's working at that period for Viktor Yanukovych these for static you cran asked to find sanctuary in Russia Joe Biden comes in two months later in April that's when his son hunter is the name of the board of this energy company very smart the daughter of very smart it's not some great reformer if an ally at the end of coverage the guy who's just been run out of Ukraine so for three years with her Clinton operatives Democratic Party operatives all say that you had a cold **** but the fact that metaphor was working within a couple of its currency the dirt bag hello hunter Biden works with Yanukovich there's nothing too we can consider right this is what I may not have to go back even a little bit further and I believe the more more we did you know John Solomon has been doing fantastic work on that I believe the more and more that people dig into that find out what went on there we're going to find many of the roots and sources of what's come to be calm down as whether it's what are you want to call it the rush to get out the the great Kremlin conspiracy whatever people want to whatever people our people choose to describe it but a lot of what happened in Ukraine and in Washington around two thousand four K. and that no doubt fed into the operation against first the trump campaign then the transition to them and then the presidency will still seeing it many people thought it ended when the mother report came up and you would know collusion it was however rebooted three weeks ago now with this with this whistle blowers complaint what we're seeing is that say cyclical like a classical story it's a cyclical narrative that keeps rotating around the same teams with saying this is with the same point bush undo election and to push trump from office that's the purpose of that the throne it is so what do you think will come out if anything with regard to hunter Biden I don't know I I mean again I I think that there's a larger there's a larger picture here where there's a lot of Obama officials potentially and some Clinton figures who may have been involved in strange stuff that's been going on in Ukraine since at least two thousand fourteen I believe that's quite likely I think that people will continue to look into that and investigate that I think the bigger picture right now eleven of them the bigger picture in the near distance is what the Attorney General and U. S. attorney John Durham are looking at I'm I'm optimistic Dennis I I I I hope you are too but I believe that again there are some very important and seriously and I think that they believe that what happened here the way that service security has damaged are not only are damaged our public sphere units Norma's damage to American institution the problem community and every time I see I you know we saw reported over the weekend at the second whistleblowers complained like every additional time to get something like that it's going to be it's going to take another decade for the American public to trust intelligence community again we all know they do that they are serious people who put their lives on the line across the world including here in the United States people who often serve and protect their and their neighbors our countrymen the stuff they were saying is with the stars and I'm in an active FBI officer I'm rather act active CIA officer comes forward to participate in an operation against a sitting president I mean this is just incredible well I a lot okay is it just part of my life my I have my own larger thing everything the left touches it ruins so that now now what's the intelligence community so that's exactly what what then rubbed I I want to ask you one more thing so when we come back how do you think this will play out politically well we'll let the Democrats benefit from it cetera etcetera talking about Ukraine if you have questions one eight Praeger seven seven six by.
"yanukovich" Discussed on C-SPAN Radio
"Difference in a fierce in two thousand thirteen in November two thousand thirteen Ukraine along with Georgia and mulled over in our media land to sign agreements with the European Union Russia pressured the Armenians to back out of these agreements in Armenia greed is subsequently sent sign them but it also pressured Mr Yanukovich and Yanukovych just a week before a summit in which these agreements were to be signed agreed not to sign them after treating the European Union is a much lesser evil than NATO Mr Putin got into his mind that the European Union was bad news from Moscow that signing agreements with the European Union meant that these countries along Russia's borders we're moving in a more Westwood direction toward deeper integration with the your lan to community and he wanted to stop that so we pressured Mr Yanukovich into not signing these grants reneging on these agreements and the result was eight social media movement that led to a few months later to Mr Yanukovich clean power going to Russia and a new government coming in David Kramer's pharmacists to secretary of state under president George W. bush she's been ready she is before there were more than a hundred people killed during the violence unlike in two thousand four with the orange revolution there was terrible violence this time in the Maidan in downtown Ukraine Mr Yanukovich has the blood of those people on his.
"yanukovich" Discussed on Radio Free Nashville
"Here where he was arguing with more Waldron his most recent book they hadn't hit water if they hadn't history and we've been talking about the other parallels between trump and Nixon and and more more recently but in the larger context for Republican presidents now have betrayed the Kurds since Richard Nixon began this whole song and dance in every case in exchange for money or political favors is this is just absolutely mind boggling Lamar I don't know if you want to get into Paul man a fort in Ukraine but do you see parallels now between what trump and and and a is is doing or what's happening in the United States with regard to our recollections here and what Paul metaphor was due in twenty ten and Ukraine you just need to mend tremendous parallels there but before I dive into those I did want to point out two more reasons to more big parallels one is stonewalling in an obstruction by Nixon AM by John Mitchell is what kept Nixon in office for more than two years after Watergate the only thing that kept Nixon in office that it bears repeating now is the way that Nixon and John is Attorney General John Mitchell and and even after Mitchell was not Attorney General anymore you still Nixon's closest adviser are going after critics and whistleblowers and leakers and under Nixon that that turned fatal at least twice over Nixon would only see I try to unleash the I. R. S. C. which had the FBI harasses critics he would you know go after them in the press but in the case of America's most famous journalist Jack Anderson who had a stream of exposes against Richard Nixon Nixon according to Martel Steen yell a professor at the university of Maryland you know a former a former journalist you know very distinguished get your professor there he he wrote a great book it is pretty well documented didn't Richard Nixon ordered the White House plumbers the people who were supposed to stop leaks to assassinate Jack Denters wires Nixon literally gave that order Lee as much as anyone can tell the only reason that Nixon did not succeed and that was it one of the the one of the Watergate plumbers a guy whose real name was Frank Fiorini but he changed it from that I Kalyan sounding name he was a mob associate to Frank Sturgis and Frank Sturgis was good friends with Jack Anderson from the days when Frank Sturgis was a soldier of fortune in the mountains of Cuba with Castro so apparently that's the only reason that didn't happen and then the other big leaker who started leaking after the White House plumbers were formed was Daniel Ellsberg in any given just a month and a half before the final Watergate break in there were four not just one Daniel Ellsberg was targeted to be I'm paraphrasing here he uses a more exact term basically permanently silenced in a big demonstration in Washington and don't Berg that you know will only say that in any media appearance I can always tell the journalist are skeptical that that that that Nixon had actually order details bird be killed but what what the mainstream media doesn't ever talk about either and what else were doesn't even know was that two of the war to get plumbers Frank Sturgis and Bernard Barker all were actively working for one of America's most ruthless godfathers at the time center across the county big supporter of Richard Nixon gave Nixon lots of money including two contributors two million two different million dollar bribes and both Sturgis and Barker has successfully participated in assassinations in the past for the mafia and for the CIA so I take it very seriously so so that makes me worry about the current I I think we're up to at least three whistle blowers right now and look at all the critics of trump and Dr William Barr would ever order a whistle blower killed no I don't as trump threatened to have people killed in the past there is reporting that he had so I really worry about the safety of these whistle blowers and I'll just say this before we move on to Ukraine I am totally and completely confident that Donald Trump has been told the name of that first main whistle blower I based on everything I have read everything I know he's been with and where he's been with an up this so I don't know who it is ready to find out who it is as a way of of telegraphing to his more violent to followers you know find a nail this guy and I can tell you is but you know find a nail and so and so yeah so I I worry about all of that which which now brings us back to Ukraine and the first time the Paul man a fort help one of prudence allies deflected president this is back in two thousand and ten he John accomplish exactly it and and it's real important because most of your listeners are like me twenty years ago I knew nothing about Ukraine but luckily I had a friend who did a great series of graphic novels about a young woman fighting in Ukraine for Ukraine in order to do so he was going over Ukraine during research married a are you crazy so I was following Ukraine at a time you know ten years ago when most people were hurt yeah because one of my best friends was over there all the time and what's important to note we what he always said in the research bears out Ukraine sixty percent of Ukraine the middle in the western part of Ukraine Russia yeah date and they hate Russia because going back to the nineteen thirties when Russia based in under Stalin grad Ukraine and then to put down their resistance he basically instituted this nation wide famine that killed millions of people so that has not been forgotten in Ukraine those people hate Russia you know for what for what they did here for years when they were a satellite state a captive state but especially going back to thirty so sixty percent of Ukraine hates Russia now what what Stalin in later Khrushchev did though we have a lot of Russians moved to the eastern part of Ukraine so today about sixty percent of Ukrainians hate Russia and thirty percent of Ukrainians like Russia or actually you know all of Russian extractions also in Crimea using a Russia that giant submarine base there and and that's where so many of the Russian military went there served there and then retired there because it's just absolutely beautiful territory band and beautiful climate and the local area and I would rather live in the crush me here a hundred times more than any place you know than Moscow St Petersburg so the question is how old how did your prudence allied get elected president of a country where sixty percent of the people hate anything to do with Russia well the answer he is Paul man a fort and some other political consultants who done work for truck but never was the main one because what manta forget it ever Manford was a big part of Republican politics and elections going back to the late seventies here in America I mean he always does a big surgery Reagan campaign and the bush campaign his partner Lee Atwater his his you know I mean his partner Roger stone legendary names in Republican politics and I do still mean the person that introduced prompted Donald to Richard Nixon and Nixon said when he met trop your basically said I'm paraphrasing yeah you're gonna be president someday yeah so yeah so so all these rats were together so so the way never forget that was apparently a initially Yanukovych was was to obviously pro Russian and he was kind of a rumpled of Boris Johnson kind of guy basically Paul man a fort cleaned up his act in terms of you know the suits in terms of the hair the trump like and and getting him to to not you know to attempt to play down even just ignore or deny any pro Russian bias to talk about nationalism and in all these here with mom and apple pie hello this is not Ron as a as a pro prudent or pro Russian candor and he ran as as a basically Ukraine first so important here and if you crave for proper way and it took the old pro **** slogan of America first and and you're exactly right so it was not obvious enough even if in the first year of Yanukovych so what happened when that when the people figured out the honor code which was basically dancing to Provincetown by the second year it became totally obvious and the people literally rose up Yanukovich on Putin's orders he always having people shot that brought more people into the streets and basically they ran him out of Ukraine they overran his incredible mansion it was just all these Trumpy an extravagant golden crystal and in the end and thirty hundred thousand dollar chandeliers almost and and and not a coverage literally literally had to flee to to Russia but but the interesting thing is you know if if the Democrats had not captured the house you could almost make a a case that did that we are in in some ways we are today we're being white Ukraine was in the first year or so under the outcome of it you know the words here the Ukrainian had a president control about Moscow they didn't really realize it but he was a lot of policies that favored Moscow no trouble right now same time throwing red meat to his days in claiming Ukraine first and he'll coming up with all these excuses until he could just no longer hi there in in in in many ways we're we're like that today I mean think about this you know everything from has done from the labor department to the defense department to the environmental protection agency he's been doing exactly the opposite of what he even moderate Republican president would do in other words you know if if if you have you have somebody had the education department is against public education people that had the environmental protection agency or against protecting the environment people who run the department of labor are against organized labor in other words it's almost if you imagine it like a like an Avenger style movie were some Adrian has infiltrated in is having people you know attacked America from within that's exactly what brought totally appears to be doing for our sins and charge of the fire department exactly and in doing that I firmly believe.
"yanukovich" Discussed on 860AM The Answer
"You're here major investigative journalist Lee Smith he said that use that real clear politics is up with them is pretty good come and when his book comes out we'll have a mom again both the the plot against the president and Kevin and Devin newness but you were you were talking about your piece on the crane and I interrupted you just as you were coming to a now I right now it's okay should should there's a lot to cover and what one of the points that I want to try to drive home to people is that not nearly even about the by then close about get the prosecutor fired we need to go back to two thousand fourteen Joe Biden and the state department very active forcing out one cranium president in the U. Clea Euromaidan protests are forcing out victory in a code that you happen to be the guy that Paul mana for who you work for one salient factors you've heard over the last three years all men of four I DO used as evidence of the trump teens Russia's ties to continue crane and you work for Viktor Yanukovych was pro pollutant but as it turns out that the exact exactly the opposite is true why trying to push he was trying to push you in a cold it's closer to the new year right so why all these lying first of all this continued belies an absolute indictment of Washington foreign policy class right that no one could have said that look at the different people we have working in the city on Russia and Ukraine I'm not one of them was capable of standing up but actually the press campaign against mana Fortin shop I I you know I'm not going to take us out it is not that but I got to tell you what manifold was doing was in parallel to the Obama administration they were pushing the same thing for yet a couple weeks to get closer to Europe so how did this happen I thought that was evident that metaphor with the Russian stooge like all of the trump but like all of the trump seeing so that these things start to shake out in two thousand fourteen that's when Biden son is appointed and again remember get a call today to throw all these you know all these different slot Slavic names that Ukrainian Russian and he gets a little complicated yeah remember mana for who's working at that period for Viktor Yanukovych he's for static you cran asked to find sanctuary in Russia Joe Biden comes in two months later in April that's when his son hunter is the name of the board of this energy company very smart the daughter of very smart it's not some great reformer if an ally at the end of coverage the guy who's just been run out of Ukraine so for three years we've heard Clinton operatives Democratic Party operatives all say that you had a cold **** but the fact that metaphor was working with the ana called which proves he's a dirt bag hello a foster biting works with Yanukovich there's nothing too we can consider right so this is what I mean it has to go back even a little bit further and I believe the more more we gave you know John Solomon is been doing fantastic work on that I believe the more and more that people dig into that find out what went on there we're going to find many of the roots and sources of what's come to be calm down as whether it's what are you want to call the rush to get out the the great Kremlin conspiracy whatever people want to whatever people our people choose to describe it but a lot of what happens in Ukraine and in Washington around two thousand fourteen and that no doubt fed into the operation against first the trunk campaign then the transition to them and then the presidency we're still seeing it many people thought it and did the who and the mother report came up and you would know collusion it was however rebooted three weeks ago now with this with this whistleblowers complained what we're seeing is that say cyclical like a classical story it's a sick McCall Meredith that keeps rotating around the same themes with saying this is with the same point bush undo election and to push trump from office that's the purpose of it the throne it is so what do you think will come out if anything with regard to hunter Biden I don't know I I mean again I I think that there's a larger there's a larger picture here where there's a lot of Obama officials potentially and some Clinton figures who may have been involved in strange stuff that's been going on in Ukraine since at least two thousand fourteen I believe that's quite likely I think that people will continue to look into that and investigators I think the bigger picture right now the end of the the bigger picture in the near distance is what the Attorney General and U. S. attorney John Durham are looking at I'm I'm optimistic Dennis I I I I hope you are too but I believe that again there are some very important and seriously and I think that they believe that what happened here the way that service see here a has damaged are not only are damaged our public sphere units Norma's damage to American institution the intelligence community and every time I see I you know we saw reported over the weekend as well second whistleblowers complained like every additional time to get something like that it's going to be it's going to take another decade for the American public to trust intelligence community again we all know they do that they are serious people who put their lives on the line across the world including here in the United States people who often serve and protect their and their neighbors their countrymen the stuff they were saying is with the stars and I'm in an active at the ice officer rather act active CIA officer comes forward to participate in an operation against the sitting president I mean this is just incredible well I will look at it it's just part of my life my I have my own larger thing everything the love touches it ruins so that now now what's the intelligence community so that's exactly what what to I I want to ask you one more thing so when we come back how do you think this will play out politically will love the Democrats benefit from it cetera etcetera talking about Ukraine if you have questions one eight Praeger seven seven six by.
"yanukovich" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Already been dismissed by the previous prosecutor's office and that this prosecutor was not pursuing an investigation of the company where hunter Biden Joe Biden's son was working when Joe Biden pushed the president of Ukraine to fire the prosecutor he was doing so at the request of the American government the IMF the World Bank the Europeans the thought the prosecutor was not pursuing corruption investigations now this is a non scandal that trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani in spite of everything he just said has been howling about four months but when it all blew up this week you were in a doubly unusual position you had done this very long story you already knew that there was no there there about Joe Biden and shut down investigations but you also knew about the many skeletons in hunter Biden's closet his car his resume his web browser his blood tests it cetera and not a portrait of stability whenever Joe Biden was running for office this issue came up over and over again Joe Biden was you know Delaware senator which is home to MBNA the bank and after hunter got out of Yale Law School he got a job at MBNA bank which happened to be one of his father's largest contributors and the accusations at the time was very similar actually to the accusations today which is that hunter Biden is trading on his father's name to get these positions to curry favor with the senator and that's really the same issue that repeats itself over and over again and is a legitimate subject of scrutiny when it comes to his business dealings when is father's vice president and those would be the the business dealings. he does in Ukraine in China yeah you wrote that there's quote little question that hunters proximity to power shaped the arc of his career isn't that the swamp it's not just the perception of conflict it's a business model it's exactly what makes proximity to power such a lucrative commodity can we presume getting back to Ukraine that his seat on the board of and large natural gas producer there was not based on some background in energy markets are fossil fuels I can say this that by talking to members of the board who sat alongside a hunter during those years that the five years that was on the board he told me and they verified that he made it very clear from the beginning that he would not talk to his father or US government about the company and its activities as far as I could tell that was a policy that was not breached during the hunters five years with the board he had a don't ask don't tell policy with his father and this is so if reporter like myself or if you were to ask why did your son do this deal Joe Biden and his staff can genuinely say we didn't even know he was doing it but you know I was kind of mystified by why Joe Biden's aids and the state department officials and White House officials they told me that they were disturbed by hunters decision to join this board and yet they told me that they never really raised it with Joe Biden they said they were intimidated one of them told me that the best way to add not advancing government I is to criticize the son of a politician to that politician so there was this a self censorship I think that went on I only was able to find one aide in the administration Ukraine expert who does eventually raise it with the vice president and he doesn't tell the vice president that he should ask his son to step down from the board he just tells him Hey we're gonna be going to Kiev and every time we go to Kiev right Russian propaganda stations promote this. sorry so they wanted the vice president to be prepared to answer questions if he was asked about his son I believe that's the conversation that prompts the one conversation that I was able to document between hunter Biden and his father hunter told me that he got a call from his dad his dad said I hope you know what you're doing son and hunter response by saying I do and he goes on and continues on that boarding continues to obviously receive funds from the company through just this spring I just want to know if in your mind that the way it's been framed in the rest of the press in the last few days it distorts the you know the equivalency of the the president's behavior and the bottoms I feel like I'm seeing almost two versions of the stories depending on which media I go to when I turn on MSNBC I'm seeing that this is all not true it's all being invented and then I go to fox and I see you know the opposite repeating the allegations this is incredibly complex it's very hard for journalists who have not spent a lot of time in Ukraine and I have not spent a lot of time in Ukraine to really get to the bottom of what motivates people to say what they say in a country which has its own politics that are very hard to understand I think it's a work in progress to try to figure this out you know how did this narrative get to Rudy Giuliani in the first place I personally thought Jake tapper on CNN last Sunday handled it very well he had munition on that's treasury secretary Steve minu chin ammunition was saying that he was disturbed the hunter Biden was doing business in Ukraine I for one find that to be concerning and to me that's the issue perhaps that should be further investigated well I understand so it's okay for Donna from junior and Eric from to do business all over the world it's okay for Ivana trump to have copyrights approval of the world what fry. I didn't trump is president but while vice president Biden was vice president his son shouldn't have been able to do business dealings sure you can question the judgment of hunter Biden in deciding when his father was involved so heavily in policy making in Ukraine and China the wisdom him taking these positions with these companies that said look who's making the accusation Rudy Giuliani has been expanding his business very aggressively by touting his relationship with trump and being his personal lawyer and like gadget ten percent I mean the children of Donald Trump or running around with businesses that raises a very similar questions medical ACS of vox for one observed quote the banal ordinary sleaze in this of the hunter Biden's of the world makes it hard to fight the extraordinary corruption of Donald Trump in other words even in the face of a White House that operates like marketing arm of the trump organization my words not yours he says the public itself can't help but operate from false equivalency do you think is right do you fear that juxtaposing hunter Biden with trump think will cause the public to shrug and say you know it's the way it is it's Chinatown Jake it's the swamp there is a you know clearly a danger that many people will think that everybody's the same that people in politics the families are cashing in on you see that's particularly damaging to Joe Biden because he's sort of made his career by taking pride in his humble finances frankly there's a reason why this campaign the trump campaign and previous Republican campaigns and even democratic campaigns when Joe Biden was in the primaries focused on hunter his business activities his work as a lobbyist albeit as a lobbyist mainly for Jesuit universities and his work in Ukraine in China is arguably an effective way to raise doubts about you know whether Joe Biden is the way his persona. is perceived that's the reason why they're focusing on this this is not new but what is different this time is obviously you have a sitting president who was growing frustrated that this narrative that dubious narrative that Joe Biden uses office in order to protect his son Ukraine was not getting the traction in the mainstream press that they were hoping it would get and then trump did something that we've never seen before which is in a private conversation with Ukrainian president in order to bring to greater public attention these allegations against Joe Biden and his son alright you've just alluded to the eco system in which this is all taken place and it goes back to the way disinformation takes hold you have done a thoroughly reported highly nuanced and mainly it's exculpatory piece about the buttons but don't we also have to reckon with the near inevitability that The New Yorker and just now on the media for all of our scrupulous nous are also. putting a bellows to the latest incendiary trump lie putting the story out there inevitably to be misunderstood. that is the danger you know we can write in this case of twelve thousand word piece probably most people will just read the headline which would maybe give people a misleading impression this is obviously a very hard position that we find ourselves and we want to be able to tell people what the facts are but in so doing we are partly doing trump's and guiliani's bidding by keeping this in the news I don't have a solution to this problem you know I'm not sure there is one. Adam thank you very much thank you Adam anticipate is a staff writer for The New Yorker where this summer he wrote we'll hunter Biden jeopardize his father's campaign autumn and since described the challenge of untangling Ukraine's knotty political narrative remote and opaque to most Americans and less fertile ground for myth and misinformation consider the series of stories by conservative columnist John Solomon in the hill last March when in a time honored tradition of using American outlets to launder foreign propaganda he quotes senior officials in Ukraine making accusations against a well regarded anti corruption activist investigative journalist from such spores grown my E. D. mold colonies Rudy guiliani is such a colony unto himself propagating accusations on fox news here is may it's all a part of one large conspiracy that has about two or three parts to it okay so I've decided Sharon I'm not going to go to the Ukraine you're not going to go I'm not going to go because I think I'm walking into a group of people that are enemies of the president in some cases enemies of the United States and in one case already convicted person who has been found to be involved in assisting the Democrats with the twenty sixteen election a gentleman by the name of Lysenko yes who supplied the black book that was found to be fraudulent all this can land like gibberish on many American years but to those who know Ukraine it's crystal clear and obvious attempts to obscure a very real very explosive anti corruption investigation Carrillo Lou cannon Cole is the executive director and co founder of how to mod ski radio in Ukraine he explains that the black ledger was the key to one might have. king corruption at the highest levels in Ukrainian society. it was it was a book with hand written the names and figures phones in had quarters all for young core which political party during the my don you Vance during the Maidan demonstrations to get rid of me on a cold **** who's pro Russian party was enormously unpopular and it was in his party headquarters that the ledger was found and one name that comes up again and again when talking about those years and the legacy of American influence in Ukraine is Paul man a fort actually very few people knew about his war he was traveling back and forth as far as I understand to the US and you're right however once upon a time carriages Ukrainian journalist and his friends actually found the Montfort was mentioned as he was paid by Mr Yanukovich and his friends for he is a law being and consultations he'll log with young core which governments in the US and also he can sound to you on the call is public relations strategy in Ukraine so it would be bats are ASAP to end the US and Europe was paid many millions to do this as was quantified in the black ledger his and other payments by the president at the time that issue was never investigated in Ukraine he was investigated Bob I'm afraid there was no court hearing which actually came to act correct conclusion about that issue what about the new Ukrainian president so Lynskey he campaigned as a reformer he is a complete outsider he's been plunged in prison. moblie way over his head in dealing with the the trump administration strong arm tactics would he re open the black ledger issue or examine it I believe that he is a moral person who really wants to change our country to the batter if he is successful in this he has to deal with all those issues which were under investigated we sure under clarified for the Ukrainian palm lake she is trying to focus on their resume means deeds by the previous administration but I would not believe that he would preserve his image over positively thinking politician if he would abandon their investigations of young to call reach zero. I'm wondering lasting go was called an enemy of the people and of the U. S. by Rudy guiliani on fox news as Ukraine rapidly enters the forefront of the American news cycle a lot of us are working very hard to make sense of Ukraine one of the top three things that you would recommend news consumers learn about in order to make sense of how this story is playing out. well first I would recommend the. those who did not watch Chernobyl serious on age be old to watch it's a parts of picture that brought you crane to.
"yanukovich" Discussed on 860AM The Answer
"Welcome to. on this Friday September twenty seventh please welcome back live admiral James Stavridis who is the former allied supreme commander of NATO and just a regular weekly guest on the show now role welcome back I know you've been globetrotting I want to cover three things with the your your your visit to Saudi Arabia what the E. three did it about Iran this week and then your time in Ukraine when you were the Supreme Allied Commander so I got a parcel my time quickly can you first tell us about what you saw when you're in Saudi Arabia I think it was there you were there after the attack by a run on Saudi Arabia Hugh I actually landed as the drones hit and off in the distance you could sort of feel the thunder in we knew that I knew at that moment this was going to be a huge event I mean this is does center of gravity of the global oil industry and certainly I would say that immediately you got a sense in Saudi Arabia of extreme seriousness of extreme nervousness I had a chance to meet with several of the cabinet ministers are there but one hundred percent focused on this and it's an existential threat to the Saudis so they are looking for US support I think the administration is making a smart move sending some troops over there to connect calm the situation a bit but it's it's another indication of how dangerous this is in the Middle East and you know I've been talking about it for months no I have no I it was my reading that the Saudi defenses had been built to protect against attacks from Yemen but these came from a different direction widely believed to have been from southern Iran are there are for example patriot missile batteries that can be deployed to protect that flank of the Saudi complex absolutely and the patriot is in place around the perimeter of many of these oil field but the problem is you decide drones are smaller lighter quicker when combined with. cruise missiles they can also create a saturation of fact in frankly the the oil fields need to be re balanced in a military sense so they can protect against what I have called the new strategic cry ad which is on me and vehicles cyber in special forces that's really the threat to these oil fields not these big lumbering cruise missiles now in terms of the president's response today which is banned diplomatic not kinetic do you believe we are outside of the zone where economic responses likely or are we still in that zone we're out of his own for the moment and observed that the Iranians have been quite careful actually not to attack any US personnel there been no U. S. deaths here in to my knowledge there have been no Saudi deaths here so the Iranians are moving quite cautiously making Connecticut tax against tankers again see oil field where we ought to worry Hugh in terms of a kinetic responses if your radiance cross that line if there's American troops killed or their mariners killed or Saudis killed in the U. R. field I think that's a different ball game the Iranians haven't gone there yet I don't have real separatists in the super heated greenhouse of washing the seat that some things get missed I was in New York yesterday the U. N. son amazing thing this week the E. three United Kingdom Germany and France came towards us these are the Iran I think that's the most important story of the week what do you think about it I totally agree and unfortunately it did get buried under everything happening in Washington this is a big deal this is what we've been waiting for I've often referred to the U. K. Germany and France as the swing voters in this relationship between the US and Iran here to for those three had maintained face if you will. well with the broken agreement fourteen new color rising a rant now at the U. and because of the attacks on the Saudi oil fields all three of them had said this is unacceptable we will join the United States to put diplomatic pressure on for the first time I can see a diplomatic path forward because of this it's a huge story right now in terms of that how does that manifests next they kept a little wiggle room a hedge their bets a little bit do we expect them to formally withdraw from the J. C. P. O. a and say start over because they said sort of two things one of those was come talk about long range missiles the export of chair regional instability but maybe the J. C. P. O. A. isn't dead yet well I think it dad but maybe they just don't want to do it diplomatically it is dead in and it's a tire debate about whether it was a good deal or a bad deal that matter it's it did deal so at this point you got to play the ball from where it is on the field I think mark chrome the president of France is the leader in that troika and is going to push it forward hopefully we'll see breaks it resolved one way or the other that'll get the distraction of breaks it off the plate so the Brits and then I think you'll see the next British government whoever it is I mean in that's the moment to watch so I think late October early November hopefully breaks it in the rear view mirror at that point watch for the troika to completely break with the old deal and come to the negotiating table to pressure a rant that's the only path forward here the only switch to your time in spring allied commander two thousand nine to two thousand thirteen I think you would laugh before the protests in Kiev in November of twenty thirteen I know you were gone when Russia invaded in twenty fourteen but can you give us a sense I assume you travel the Ukraine you've been everywhere right like thirty five different places in Ukraine what a mess of a country it is hard to follow this between four different. that's a cuter three different presidents a bunch of different scandals what would you crane like when you were the allied commander in charge of NATO you know it was actually relatively hopeful in the sense that it was the Ukraine that was not invaded by Russia there was certainly always of bubbling sense of problematic behavior by Russia trying to intrude and you may not know this you but the Russian Black Sea fleet even in those days was actually stationed on Ukrainian soil and so it was a complex relationship but therefore the Ukrainians just wanted to be with NATO and wanted to be with the United States certainly plenty of corruption floating around and that was what we tried to do in the military zone was dry the corruption out but we saw the Ukrainians deployed forces to Afghanistan with us they sent a ship on counter piracy missions very capable proud people who are just being beaten by a bully in the form of Vladimir Putin we to continue to work with them and stand with them and that's something I'm very proud of in my time that NATO was building that military relationships and ensuring that the Ukrainians got the support they needed my successors following the invasion have continued that same track as Ukraine is a vital country in Europe it's not a NATO member but it's strategically vital tell me how you would try and light back commences shadow of corruption are a we are focused on their oil and natural gas company right now is having on toward influence in America were focused on. got well who fired and why and what is the Lynskey said the president trump but if you're running a a combined arms campaign such as NATO how do you keep that people with briefcases the cash from the door. well it's the old line send money guns and lawyers and it's actually true what you want to do in the military contacts is get your military lawyers talking to the legal teams of the minister of defense the legal teams of the military operators and and showing them what so Kay and what's not okay you do want to send guns because that's your motivation you want to send that military aid so you have to have that capability. and and certainly you've got to. ensure that you have the ability to leverage them show them what's right and then you can in fact go to the Ukrainians for example and say we have got to see an appropriate use of the aid we're sending you and show us where that aid wind that's entirely legitimate in fact it's required by law so the military has a role in anti corruption we've done that you not only in Ukraine but in for example Central America in Colombia in Afghanistan and there are varying degrees of success all close by saying the one star officer who headed the anti corruption campaign in Afghanistan for me was named HR McMaster I'm going to him yeah no doubt did you deal with I want to see his name correctly your yeah I'm not yeah not a cold which did you deal with Yanukovich at all yes I met him interestingly years earlier when I was serving as chief of staff to secretary of defense don Rumsfeld and we went to Ukraine and had a meeting with Yanukovych who is eight T. H. U. G. Doug and he is you know in his doctor in Moscow now and I don't think he's coming back anytime soon I don't like this president insulin ski I think he is a breath of fresh air in that country and I am cautiously optimistic if we stay with Ukraine we can help them push back on what's happening in southeastern Ukraine the one thing that's lost forever in my view Hugh is Crimea that's not going to come back well I agree with that and indeed Khrushchev gave Crimea to Ukraine am I correct and so that was historically part of imperial Russia and it will use force but it was certainly not a reversion to something that wasn't a norm for centuries that's exactly right and we ought to remember free invasion the population of Crimea was eighty percent plus Russian very supportive of Russia when I traveled in Crimea as opposed to the rest of Ukraine you really got to feel that you weren't so much in Ukraine you were really in a part of Russia and so I think it's that accompli it's a it's a it's it's illegal under international law we ought to condemn it but realistically that's not gonna get reversed in my view no address every this is a very different difficult question it took about five years after Tiananmen massacre for America and China to get back to normalcy we're now about five years out after the use of illegitimate forced to see this Crimea and parts of eastern Ukraine is there a rule of history about how long civilized countries punish B. as section I don't want to let the Russian section I'm just curious of your study of history is revealed rule under which the world generally adjust to the reality even after its outrage real has been expressed I think there is a tactical answering a strategic answer I think tactically it probably is about five years that's kind of the the cycle of these kinds of things but I think strategically there are places where the United States for example has imposed sanctions on Cuba for decades and decades and decades of following a revolution there so I think if it's a tactical advantage at Tiananmen Square I think that is probably a five to seven year cycle if it is a regime that is repugnant unlike Cuba or North Korea I think sanctions can go on for decades and they should last questions the Ukrainian military run by professionals or that run by politicos. it's run by professionals interestingly many of them were initially trained in the old Soviet Union although that generation is now bleeding out and you're starting to see colonels and one star generals who have served in NATO and been part of the NATO Ukraine operations so uniformed military pretty professional gotta stay on them send money guns and lawyers but stay focused on it and that can be part of solving the corruption issues in Ukraine. James that route is always a pleasure.
"yanukovich" Discussed on Radio Free Nashville
"Is the part where they're talking about Paul mana for its association with Constantine clinic and older posco their pots could be in the got the the Ukrainian Russian oligarch who is building the steel aluminum factory in Kentucky to help match map Mitch McConnell yet reelected in twenty twenty man of fort was has alleged to the office that's the molar office that he was willing to brief dera posco this is the guy is helping out Mitch McConnell only on it right now only on public campaign matters and gave an example why trump selected Mike pence's the vice presidential running mate been a Ford said he never gave dera posco a briefing and afford noted that if trump wonder posco would want to use manta fort to advance whatever interest or a pasta had in the United States and elsewhere page one thirty eight Amanda for all metaphors to campaign period meetings of Constantine clinic in the United States is the subtitle here therefore twice met with polemic in person during the campaign period once in may and again in August of twenty sixteen first meeting took place on may seventh twenty sixteen in New York City in the days leading to that meeting clinic and then working to gather information about the political situation in Ukraine that included information gleaned from a trip the former party of regions official Yeary Boyko had recently taken to mount Moscow a trip that likely included meetings between Boyko and high ranking Russian officials polemic then traveled to Washington DC on or about may fifth twenty sixteen while in Washington clinic had pre arranged meetings with state department employees late on the afternoon of may sixth gates array arrange for clinic to take a three AM train to meet man a fort in New York for breakfast on may seventh grade Amanda for during the meeting he in clinic talked about events in Ukraine and metaphor briefed clinic on the trump campaign expecting clinic the pass the information back to individuals in Ukraine and elsewhere Bennifer it stated that opposition bloc members recognize mana for its position on the campaign was an opportunity a clinic did not ask for anything clinic spoke about a plan of Boyko to boost elevation exiting election participation in the eastern zone of Ukraine which was the base the base for the opposition bloc a clinic return to Washington DC right after the meeting with manta for the opposition bloc ideas the of political entity in eastern Ukraine this allied with Russia Bennifer met with clinic a second time at the grand Havana club in New York City on the all evening of August second twenty sixteen events leading to the media are as follows on July twenty eight twenty sixteen clinic flew from Kiev to Moscow the next day clinic wrote to manta for requesting that they meet using coded language about a conversation he had that day in an email with the subject line black caviar clinic wrote I meant to get today with the guy who gave you your biggest black caviar jar several years ago we spent about five hours talking about his story and I have several important messages from him to you he asked me to go and brief you on our conversation I said I have to run it by you first but in principle I'm prepared to do it it has to do with the future of his country and is quite interesting end quote page one thirty nine metaphor identified quote the guy who gave you your biggest black caviar jar as Yanukovych he explained that in twenty ten he Indiana coach at lunch to celebrate the recent presidential election yeah coverage a young coach by the way is the pro Russian former president of Ukraine the Paul metaphor help get elected yeah coverage gave metaphor to large jar black caviar that was worth approximately thirty to forty thousand dollars metaphors identification of Yanukovych as the guy who gave you your biggest black caviar jar is consistent with clinic being in Moscow or Yanukovych resided when clinic wrote I've met today with the guy and with a December twenty sixteen email in which clinic referred to Yanukovich as BG the rest of that sentence has been blocked out by bill Barr Jennifer replied to clinics July twenty nine email Tuesday August second his best Tuesday or Wednesday in New York City three days later on July thirty first twenty sixteen clinic flew back from kia of two kia from Moscow and on that same day road to manta for that he needed about two hours for their meeting because it is a long caviar story to tell clinic wrote that he would arrive at JFK on August second at seven thirty PM and he and manifold agreed to a late dinner that night she's me documentary evidence including flight phone and hotel records and the timing of text messages exchanged confirms the dinner took place as planned on August second as to the contents of the media itself the accounts of manta Fortin gates who arrived late to the dinner differ in certain respects but their version of events when assessed long side available documentary evidence or what clinic told business associates Sam Atton indicate that at least three principal topics were discussed first manta Fortin clinic discussed a plan to resolve the ongoing political problems in Ukraine by creating autonomous Republic and it's more industrialized eastern region of the own boss and having out of coverage the Ukrainian president ousted in twenty fourteen elected to head that Republic that would be a part of Ukraine that's mostly Russian speaking that plan better for later acknowledged cannot constituted a backdoor means for Russia to control eastern Ukraine and afford initially said that if he had not cut off the discussion clinic would have asked manta Fortney August second meeting to convince truck to come out in favor the peace plan and you had a coverage would have expected that a forty uses connections in Europe and Ukraine to support the plan metaphor.
"yanukovich" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Bank member FDIC bridge, Bank old venture wisely. Stay with us after fresh air tonight for the state of the valley conference. It silicon valley's townhall meeting. This year's keynote speaker in San Jose was Jon Meacham, the Pulitzer prize winning author historian and presidential biographer. It's coming up at eight o'clock right after fresh air here on kqed San Francisco and QE I north highlands, Sacramento. It's seven thirty. This is fresh air. I'm Terry gross. Let's get back to my interview with British journalist, Oliver below author of the new book money land about how oligarchy kleptocrats and crooks hide their spoils in shell companies and real estate to illustrate his point about how money is stashed in real estate. He takes London sightseers on clip taco see tours pointing out the mansions and apartments owned by kleptocrats an oligarchy. Below is a regular contributor to the guardian and is the author of two nonfiction books about Russian history and politics. He lived in and reported from Russia in the early two thousands. So one of the places that you visited on your own personal kleptocracy tour was was victory on kovic. Is you just have it as a palace in Ukraine? So again, he's the president that Paul Manafort was close to where he worked as men workers his campaign manager when he was elected president where does Yanukovich's close aide, and then try to launder his reputation in the western world laundry on a kovic is reputation in the western world. So you've what had been his residence. I think he'd already fled the country when you visited and it sounds like this palace had become a tourist attraction. Yeah. I mean, I have little bit of previous with because he he was in the press secretary who's ever bitten me was his press secretary. She tried to stop me ask you a question on the only way she could face to do that by biting me. So. There. What part of the body does. She bite you on a mush shoulder. It was very painful though. How did that happen? Well, it was at a meeting, and I was trying to push my way to the front innocent pushy gentlest way, and they will also security guards around off managed to get in front of the security guards. And she kind of threw me in slightly like like a dragon game of thrones. But instead of breathing fire bit me, so I caught my question though, the skin number. She did the jacket while she was. Yeah. She. Anyway, the point is he had been around on the scene for a long time in Ukraine that was in a previous revolution in two thousand and four to five which he also lost that when Israeli record of losing revelations. So he'd been around on the scene for a long time in lots of roads have been prime minister in this all the time had been accumulating this money because he was a real crook. And when he was president he really went for it. We stole anything. He built himself. These palaces off he fled the country in February twenty fourteen you have this glorious period after revolution. When anything goes, you can do what you like us to give an invade these places really just wonder around and have a look and one of the places was the palace outside Kiev just on the edge of it is I think the biggest located in the world five-storey cabinets incredible palace of vulgarity and I'd wanted around there and explored there and then as a shooting lodge a bit further outside the capitol, which was on a smaller more modest scale. But still very luxurious. Indeed. Yes, he had hit stolen this money. Spent on building himself these policies, and then had to leave them behind when he fled in a bit of a hurry. So the land in this like went hunting lodge that you refer to was owned wasn't registered to Yanukovych. It was registered to a company named Dom less nico-. Yes. So tell us about that company and its role in laundering kovic is money. So this is where the idea for money land came from for me was because I suppose I was visiting these palaces with a bit of a sense of humor. They will vogue. They trashy. They will blame it was you could write about it. And it was very funny. But then I was with a friend of mine, I'm telling who's who's a revolutionary and he took me to the hunting lodge. An I suppose I was maybe laughing it much, and he was at a little bit annoyed of may. I think he basically said look, you think this is funny essentially, but this isn't owned in Ukraine. This is in England such you'll complicit in this too. And I went and looked up the registration, and yes dumbness, Nicole, which is the company that own the land was owned by British company was owned by British shell company. And that shell companies I'm by another one in another one of the foundation, the fats is his involvement in having essentially stolen this forest and privatized it to himself was hidden behind a shell company. And that was some realization of the the transnational nature of this. And so I was trying to think where is this palace owned. It's not owned in Ukraine, but it's not owned in England either. So that's what it sounded money land. That's where you know, the these people keep them on they keep it in money land. So that's where that came from for me with this wondering around this astonishingly, vulgar, hunting lodge, laughing at and being told off by unknown fan Fano understanding the seriousness of the issue that I was looking at. And when you describe your friend is a revolutionary met one of the people who is trying to and succeeded in overthrowing Aniko Vic. Yeah, he's hit serious a code. Isis is believe you saying your country. He he turned up the morning off to the revolution. The big gates of this hunting with his daughter, you I think was eight at the time, and he turned out with his daughter and just hold the policeman. Gotta get all these highly armed police God's guarding presidential residence. And just said, I'm from the revolution. Give me the key. And they did. His went through the gates into this kind of pleasure garden with the spreading loans and poems and gorgeous price, your heart. Barry, shooting range, and everything and just told the people that's what I'm in charge. Now, it's me on the revolution. I'm in charge until news is a is a guy with serious initiative. And so he was very useful to have. Yes. So what you've described, you know, the the hunting was owned by a company named them less Nika, which was registered in England. But that company was owned by another company, which is owned by another company. So it sounds kind of like the corporate equivalent of Russian nesting dolls where like a little dolls and bigger doll. Which is a bigger doll, which is nested in bigger doll. So again, if you're trying to investigate the ownership of some of the stuff will take forever because there's so many companies it is incredibly difficult. You can almost see it as all nesting dolls each one takes enormous effort to cut through often to cut through and find out who owns it. And then as soon as you cut through it. That's just another one and that another one another one and a lot of these places where these companies are registered places in the car van lexin Kitts Nevis or the shows the Marshall Islands that very very hard to extract any kind of information out of a tool if not impossible. So it is money line is very well protected place, if you'll stone in money, and you want to keep it safe and keep it secure. Then it's it's pretty straightforward to do it. And there's a whole industry out there based in these little jurisdictions who have trying to make a living which allows you to do it. So, yeah, you've stolen, you know, essentially anything that's not nailed down while president. And even if you got over in a Lucien, you have it taken away from you. Basically, I mean, it should be said that all this time later that palace. The big five story low cabin the Bill that still hasn't been confiscated by the state because it's so it's hidden behind the shell companies. They haven't managed to get the legal proceedings dumb. So it's very well protected. Indeed. And one of the questions you try to answer the book as how does somebody like Yaeko Fletch who was ruling a country, not noted for its wealth and having such a fortune. Give us some examples of how like Anna kovic and other people in Ukraine, basically, looted the country of wealth. It's difficult. You need to think about a government is being totally other than what we think of as government if you stop thinking of it as being something to govern and start thinking about essentially is a mafia mob than that's.
"yanukovich" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"Every fifteen minutes here on Bloomberg radio, Marcus global equity markets might be heading for their first weekly drop in five still is green on the screen. This Friday absolutely looking at the stock six hundred here in Europe. Wherever seeing it rise by seven tenths of one percent. In the first few minutes also of trading the Footsie-100 underperforming down by two tenths of one percent. The entire by six tenths of one percent. And as usual, we're still waiting for that opening figure out of Frankfurt always takes a little bit longer on a sector-by-sector breakdown. I'm seeing some brisk on sentiment. Really tech shares leading the way higher this morning, followed by basic resources as well as banks. Look, I find that lead in the rally by tech really interesting because we've seen the same thing on the Asia Pacific index, and guess it happened in the US yesterday, we sold they semiconductor conductor stocks lead the rally there. US futures as well, by the way, looking to build on yesterday's rally S and P five hundred Emmys up six tenths of a percent. Nasdaq futures up eight tenths of a percent. But the reason I find it interesting is this Intel MRs on revenue on prophets on forecasts. If falls in after I was trading we see some other chipmakers fall yet. It looks like text traders tech investors are choosing to see the glass half full here. Perhaps looking through some of the negative news. We've had in that tech sector and focusing on some of the beats we've had in the semiconductor me we were talking about necessarily micro yesterday, for example. So that is interesting to me inequities. And generally you'll see a bit of a risk on day. I mean, the ten year treasury yield up a basis point to Seventy-three handle. Yeah. Absolutely. We're looking at two seventy three as you say when it comes through the ten year yield. Of course, we did see a decline in yields yesterday as we got some commentary regarding the trade story between the United States and China from Wilbur Ross the commerce secretary. We also saw European yields move higher move lower yesterday or the back of that e c b meeting. The ten year Boone this morning. However, not moving much. It is completely flat. Looking in the FX space. We're seeing a little bit of dollar weakness. And also, interestingly, we seeing weakness for the dapper knees yen vis-a-vis, the dollar. So the Japanese yen being the only major currency actually losing a little bit of steam here against the green euro gains. Yeah. I do find that weakness in the yen interesting as well. Because when it comes to trade, you mentioned it the fact that we had Wilbur Ross saying coming out and saying the US and China a miles apart still you see this risk rally in the space. And look when you were talking about yields, you talked about the we saw particularly those bts outperform yesterday because look risks are to the downside said Mario Draghi, but they did mention those tell and who stands to benefit, of course, if from more easing, it would be Italy. Anyway, you're a recovering as you were saying also we've seen a jump in cable with reports that the DP could support Theresa May's Brexit deal. So we trade at one thirty one zero two I just want to mention oil because we are moving higher for a third day on WTI up. One percent fifty three spots seventy Brent up eight tenths of a percent. Sixty one spot fifty nine A does seem that perhaps today you're seeing traders focused a little bit around the Venezuela risks because we're seeing those gains even though we had a surprise jump in US crude inventories, or let's drill down on some stocks to watch this. Warning as we are four minutes into the trading day. Bloomberg's stocks editor Paul Jarvis has just sat down in our London studio. Four Paul you're going to kick it off in the telecom space with Vodafone missing revenue estimates. That's ROY Moore is good morning. So the service revenue Vodafone it is a slight Mace nine point seven nine billion euros versus nine point eighty two. That is the headline number as almost flat organically is a tough place for Vodafone right now, they're organic revenue. There was down. One point one percent. Of course, the business is being sandwiched between the big former monopolies in Europe and the low end low cost challenges which are coming into spices. Well, so what does all this mean for the shares? Well, they are bobbing and weaving either side of the gang line this morning. Right at this. Current moment shine a very slight decline. They also going back above it from time to time. Their shares had a really bad run. Of course, Telecom Italia had a profit warning earlier this week so that had a very bad week as well. So this what they've said today comes on the back of a very weak stock price before months and the market really not buying when they're talking about improvements in Italy robust growth in Germany, reduce churn rates in Spain, the market's still taking it pretty skeptical view Vodafone right now. Yeah. Your phrase bobbing and weaving. And of course, the other thing for Vodafone as well this year big thing is going to be the rollout of five G A, particularly with its competitor hallway feeding into that story. We've had headlines that Vodafone's engaging with politicians agencies and hallway the CEO speaking on a call with journalists. But let's turn to Ericsson as well. What's the story there? It's five t. Yeah. Go gray leading. So obviously Ericsson's very big in the network Whitman world there is huge demand. Five g equipment right now. And that is being reflected in Eric's numbers group sales up ten percent in the fourth quarter. And that was driven by North America and market share gains and analysts are saying that these numbers represent a five percent beat the level. Even after you strip have provisions and restructuring. So this is a very good performance. And it's reflected in Ericsson share price already Ericsson chase about a really strong. Yeah. They're up about forty four percent in the last twelve months before today. And now this morning they're up or another three to four percent in early trading in Stockholm side. Yeah. Very good day to be an Ericsson shelter. Yeah. We spoke to the CEO of Erickson here on Bloomberg radio a little bit earlier Berea calm. He was talking about five G and the gain that the company sees from it. He wouldn't be drawn though on whether or not while away. The hallway story is actually helping. Eric it this whether or not it will be helping Ericsson going forward when it comes to sales or right? So we're going to wrap it up there. Paul jarvis. Thanks so much for joining us this morning to talk through those stocks to watch great to have you with us, Paul. Now, let's move on to our top stories. Let's talk with the latest headline on Brexit. The DUP has decided to privaty back Theresa May's Brexit plan. According to the sun, the newspaper says the Northern Irish party is now willing to accept a backstop as long as it's time limited. Meanwhile, chancellor Philip Hammond has warned that leaving without a deal would betray Brexit voters does no good alternative to the deal leaving with no deal is a very bad outcome for the UK, but not leaving would be also a very very bad outcome that would undermine our democracy and destabilize our political settlement in the UK. That was UK chancellor Philip Hammond. Speaking exclusively to Bloomberg aimed devils. Let's turn to the trade story as well. And commerce secretary Wilbur Ross has said the US and China are eager to end their trade war, but the outcome will hinge on whether Beijing will deepen economic reforms and further open up its markets. We want to make a deal we believe the Chinese food wanna make a deal, hopefully, those two general impulses can result in a very finite. Very detailed very enforceable set of commitment. Ross said he expects negotiators will release a statement on their progress after Chinese vice premier her meets where the US Trade Representative Robert lighthizer in Washington next week, a top Chinese regulator has told Bloomberg that more global banks will soon get approval from Georgie ownership in their local securities ventures, China Securities Regulatory commission vice-chairman functioning high spoke exclusively to has Linda Armand in Davos. We have the laxed the foreign equity here in a JV securities from fifty one percent and UBS has taken advantage of that has been given a license to own fifty one percent. In two years time finding shareholders can on one hundred percent and the management the same arrangement has been put in place. In December UBS became the first foreign company to win approval for a majority stake under new rules numero and J P Morgan have also applied as Beijing promises to allow greater access to the fourteen trillion dollar financial sector now in another Washington story, the US government shutdown enters its thirty fifth day in the Senate has rejected proposals from both President Trump on the Democrats aimed at Embiid ending the impasse. The White House has signaled that the president may be open to reopening agencies for three weeks. But only if opponents agreed to a down payment on the wall. Nick, what's interesting here is if we get this prolonged shutdown you've got some observers of the market saying, we could get a different reaction to two thousand and eleven you could be moving not just out of the dollar, but also outta treasuries as well pushing yields higher turn into the political situation in Venezuela and veteran emerging market investor. Mark mobias has said it could be interesting for investors. Speaking to Bloomberg Mobius said regime change would be key. Now. We're interested. I think there's a change a real change in government. Venezuela would be very very interesting. But you must remember this is all about oil. That was Mark mobias co-founder of Moebius capital partners. And if we continue with some corporate headlines Intel shares tumbled and extended trading after the company's fourth-quarter sales and profit missed estimates blue-box. Emily Chang says forecasts for the current period also disappointed Intel's forecast revenue for twenty nine hundred fell. Well, short of the seventy three billion dollars analysts projected, it's due in part to the tapering off in spending by data center customers who are now working through accumulated inventory, instead of buying new components Intel CFO an interim CEO Bob swan also says the is more cautious due to the slowing global economic growth amid possible impact of geopolitical dynamics in San Francisco. I'm Emily Chang. Bloomberg daybreak Europe. Those your top stories for the latest in global news. Here's Bloomberg's Leon guarantee. Highly on good morning, Nara Venezuela's top military brass daily defense to President Nicolas Maduro. This comes after the US you came dozens. Of other nations recognized his rival one Guido as the rightful head of state. Bloomberg's Andrew Rosetti has the details. 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