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Kofi Wins or Else?!

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Kofi Wins or Else?!

"Yes, sir. Yes. Twenty. As we speed towards wrestlemainia wrestlemainia, which is interesting is the word I will use and we will get into all of that very store shortly along with stat guy, Greg who I'll be talking to and just a couple of minutes as we get him connected. We have a lot to get to this week. Something's good. Something's good. Something's not as good. I'm not gonna lie very excited about March madness right now. It's like that weird moment right before you get to wrestlemainia where you're also just so damn excited about March madness. If your sports fan that you can get, you know, some level of relief if their stories that you've got questions about, you know. For example. Ramos stereo and some oh Joe, but we'll get to that with as she g as well. And do some things outside the ring. And I listen, you know, I'm trying to be I'm always I'm always trying to be positive. That's how I do. I really do. I don't like especially wrestlemainia season. 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I think that's a sign that this story has moved us enough to care so much about Kofi character that if he is truly screwed out of wrestlemainia, or it could be even worse goes to wrestlemainia after all of this and then just lose. And you know, what people will start saying at that point. It'll become a conversation of Booker t and triple h. I'm sure this will come up when I guess g on the line. If that is where it goes. He goes to everything humanly possible and then gets Booker teed at wrestlemainia Betsy. It's managing betta job screws me. It'll hurt. Downright sting. If that's what happens and the way the story is being built with the sort of underlying tone of you know, we talked last week about how racial stuff was implied. If you go that far. And yet don't get it as she. I know that you have to have the same field. Are you having nightmares right now of a Booker T in triple h? Yeah, it's it's getting more vivid every day to mean, I'm holding out hope that they don't go that route on waiting until the final bell has rung before I decide, but but it is it is starting to creep up in the back of my mind. Gre recording. Right. Yes. Of course, you know, why? Because you're professional, and that's the only all my goodness. I I've never seen. I've never seen a professional quite like. Well, there's one only one person, right? The real wrestler, it's professional wrestling. So now as you do have first of all, do you still believe that Kofi Kingston somehow next week or the following ends up at wrestlemainia one way or the other? I do I do. And I thought that we were going to like that question will be decided already. So I have to say, I don't know how they're going to do it. And I don't know who they go to if they don't because you have to imagine that Daniel Bryan also wants a match wrestlemainia. You don't think he's gonna wanna do sit it out? But I had no idea how they get there. That's a great point. How would you get somewhere else with him? Yeah. Him this at this point a great point where two weeks out or two and a half weeks out where else would you go with Daniel, Bryan? Who's the WW champion one of the most over people in the company where would you go if it's not Kofi Kingston? That's the only story that exists. I mean, they put them. We'll stop Ali think to bed, you know. He was in the triple threat he guys championship opportunity that he lost that he took the pen. Stop alley goes to the back of the lie. KO also lost that match kale. Also doesn't have a wrestlemainia match. But I don't think they'll go they'll go that way. Again, they j- they just there for fast lane settled it. Also, not as big a controversy. I'm currently the real life Kofi Kingston is I'm not currently on wrestlemanias. Well, the lot of people been hitting me up and asking me, and I took off for a while and was not traveling and was hoping to be back, and as of right now, I'm not so as of this moment, I relate to the character of Kofi Kingston. That's I know what it's also repelled. But like you said got two and a half weeks. It was you can make it right? But you f occult and make my boyhood dream come true. Wrestlemania weekend. Is your boyhood dream coming true me winning the title at because you know, what you make a point. How would we feel of Kofi didn't get the match? But I got it. Hey, listen. That's just as good for me. I have a chance of the black power rank. Of course, you can bring the title back to cheap universe. That'd be great. I think we're all we don't pull for that. If it's not coffee. What a moment that would be or you know, as John CENA still gonna pop up, and do I get a match with sina hair versus hair heavens has had big he already lost that one. Or he deserves to lose. Know. That's the believable Johnson right now is one of the few people. I have a better haircut that I say that with confidence so question what's worse? Kofi goes to wrestlemainia doesn't go to wrestlemainia or goes and just loses clean one two three in the middle of the ring after all that Kofi go into wrestlemainia and losing clean in the middle of the ring is one hundred percent worse. Because if he doesn't go to wrestlemainia then that fantasy is still there for every everybody, you know, they should have done. This would have been better if blah, blah, blah. But if he goes, and does it that's them. Not only entertaining fantasy. But also killing it right before our eyes. That's a really a very good point now because we are on this subject right now. And I don't know it'd probably be. Our main subject this week. 'cause it's by far. Here's what I'm not gonna talk about Ronda Rousey and her husband. I'm not spending time on that Schmidt yell the good forearm smash, but the best part of the whole segment to though, I just you know, I get it. I listen I'm getting worked by everything because I find her husband being there to be annoying. So again, if you want to annoy people by having Rhonda rows, eat talk about how wrestling isn't real, congratulations. I'm not so that works, and if you want to annoy people by having her like semi known ex you see husband wandering around doing nothing that annoys me too. So congratulations. So real quick. Other though, like her husband being around definitely works better than her. Call and everything fake is that's like annoying like I don't even want to participate in this anymore annoying. Her husband being around just like that is a good point. I know there is there is a level two that that I think was was misinterpreted of turn off the TV heat. And I'm not saying people turn off the TV. It's wrestlemainia. But the idea that it's not just annoying. And like, I hate you want you to lose. It's like, no, we know that obviously this is what the story is. And we think is wack. Yeah. Like, no one's no one's that stupid. Once it goes on. And because you know, like, you could be that stupid for one social media post. And if they never went back to it. Okay. But once it becomes like a bit of a thing. Well, now, you know, you're just okay. The line you're designed deciding to play with is. We are going to insult the people who love this the most. Yeah. And I get it. You know, if you want he that's that's cool. They'll be some heat, and they'll be something people. Just like, nah. I don't think this is fun. Right. You know, I and and call me a nerd for taking it too seriously. But as wrestling fans, we already have to spend our whole life defending wrestling to everyone who's not interesting now, you're making me defend wrestling to the woman who's held the title the entire year. Thanks. No. Thanks, doesn't it her saying that like it buries hard to like this is all fake what you play Barry's every day you play for varies everyone's championship. But this is all fake. But it will you know, what I mean? You weren't above it. When you need to get the championship. When you sat there crying because you want, and it was the world's best thing for you. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And now, it means nothing not not only does it make the fans feel like. Okay. Cool. 'cause I mean, I'm here paying money to see this. And I love it. And I already have to tell other people, it's not real sport. I five with them. Now. One of the champion says to not to mention the fact that every woman in the women women's evolution who's been there for years busting their, but they also got jobbed in one way or another. And even that she could have like, you know, you guys booed me. So this meant nothing to me nothing to me, even that this just like the fake word putting that into it is what through it all out of whack 'cause she could have got so close to that line without having to cross it just crossed. And even if you didn't go there. Enter your point grades are good point, even even if she'd just been like, hey, listen, ever since I've shown up all I've done is have great matches. And you know, what I know it gets you. Mad that I showed up and all these people been working out of their whole life. And I'm already better than them. Let's be honest. I'm better than every woman. Here matter of fact, I'm better than every woman who's come before me every hall of Famer you name it. I'm better better better better. I shouldn't even be in the women's division. I should be in the men's division the women's divisions joke. There's so many ways she could have gone that would have garnered heat without being like, let me just throw the whole thing out the window and say all of this is trash and your trash. Yeah. And I mean, you know, it's like come on. On that had to be a case of her just say something on social media and them like this has to be all damage control. Now like, they're leading into the putts. That's what I thought I've heard otherwise. But that's what I thought. And I don't know anything. But that's. Larry romi. This message about Kofi, and I wanna read it. But man. The it's such a long. It's literally such a long Email with this idea. I wanna read it, bro. But Larry while out with the with the with the characters he go over. It's just he says smackdown. Strings out denying Kofi championship match at this year's until the go home smackdown. Where vans who takes great offense to in being insinuated could be racist explains. At the top of the show that if new day wants Gemma job opportunities, so bad. It's not go. If you get it, but big E instead then. Big e becomes champion. Kofi gets money in the Bank briefcase. I'm skipping ahead here. Yeah. See I see the Email like this. This is like a script. Yeah. He wrote a full it seems bullet points. There's transitions. Yeah. There's a lot. It's a lot. Now. Hold on real quick. Male Corbin says greetings, Malcolm and Greg while watching the gauntlet match on Tuesday. I was talking to my girlfriend about Kofi being the first African American to hold the title since the rock led me to explain the rocks lineage bub-bubba, and then I realized that Kofi from Ghana now, no stat guy. But I believe that Kofi Wednesday mania, he'll also be the first African born WW champion. Correct me if I'm wrong, of course, you're right, regardless of gopher to win this possible factor. Probably be ignored. I don't know if that's true. I don't know if that'd be they could see that as an opportunity they made they made big mention of the fact of gender Mahala has Indiana and he'd heritage. And yeah, I think coffee would get they would mention efficacy. I don't know if they're like harp on to the point of that being the thing that defines him in his championship run. But it will definitely be pointed out for show. Jeffrey writes us here. Male guys just got done watching smackdown. Water wrestlers who aren't there live watch matches in the back on monitors? I've often wanted this. And it just seems pronounce this episode everyone watching don't even be more visually. Cool exciting if they came to the top of the ramp where people well for the most part. It would draw attention away from the match in the arena if ever was out there. And not to mention it would ruin it. When someone runs out to the ring, you know, you kind of have to keep that open. I do wish they had some consistency though for how the monitor area looked, you know, sometimes they're just standing in a generic blue room with a monitor there sometimes in the hallway, I think maybe there's a way that you could make it look like, that's the way the monitor area. Always looks and kind of set it up the same. I wouldn't I wouldn't hate that. But yeah, I don't think that I don't think that works in this case. But in this case with this being such a big deal might have been cool. If they did the old school kind of thing that they did in the attitude era, and they were up in Sweetwater watt standing sitting in a Sweetwater or something like that. Now, dean writes us. Male. Will they do Kofi like Booker Betsy as manager betta chip? Screws me high sweet Pete Mr. g like, Mr. T of wrestlemainia one no dean that doesn't work. I'm hoping like everyone else that Kofi gets the wrestlemainia moment. He deserves lifts that WW championship. But are you both concern that they give Kofi the Booker T treatment from wrestlemainia nineteen? We all know Booker deserve that wrestlemainia moment becoming champ. So history repeat itself. Keep up the great work. I've been a fan since the days of shoes the new era of the new era and the new where are we much love dean London England while dean you hit it on the head. We are all very concerned and hopeful I it would just make it would. I said earlier as she g that if this moment does it work out for Kofi and either he doesn't get the match or particularly does lose his clean in the middle of the rat. Mania? I don't know that I can go on. Yeah. It'll it'll be tough it. It will be tough. It'll be a tough law for everybody. And because it's really pulling at the heartstrings of an issue that's really prevalent right now, right in particular. Because this this feels like the way they're building it up and like with the flashbacks of book, it does start to feel sort of bigger than wrestling. And like bigger than what happens for two hours on Tuesday. You know what I mean? And they have to know that the direction they wet wrestlemainia nineteen even if they would've just give it to you know, and then Booker kept if a month or day, which is what they would do some types that they would do back, then even if he lost which nanna gins, but like Booker losing clean. They had to know that there was that was a mistake, and you have to that they would not make that same mistake twice. And that's the thing. And that's where the conversation of like. Yeah. But you know, it's predetermined to blah. But but the but the lineage of the title and the race of the people with the title, that's real. That's not made up. Right. That's real life. It's real life that the last black champion was the rock the last in the grantee yadda velocity end the eight times, but family the first lasted only. It's kinda wild. So you and and then you can't ignore the place where in right now. So it would there are a lot of people myself included, and I can tell from looking at the mail bag a lot of other people would be really sort of affected. Now, Chris writes us as well as she g. Male. Hello, gentlemen. I need some help explaining the love for this Kofi mania storyline. I don't get it. The Mr McMahon characters always had provocation for his actions. Stone cold, not being the corporate guy. Shane Bubba Bligh's actions towards Kofi have been the result of zero provocation. There's no storyline reason for Vince to be treating Kofi this way the box office draw holds no water, especially considering the new days the face of the recent summer, slam marketing that was just rolled out. I knew last week even if Kofi won the gauntlet match that Vince would come out and stack the deck once again because that's what his God in the machine characters established. He can do that isn't good storytelling. I honestly don't see his onscreen. Character is being anything else than a mean. Racist senile old coot who thinks hey, it's my sandbox. I can do whatever I want. I personally don't find anything. Compelling storyline at all. And I don't see what sort of compelling ending. It can have your thoughts. Been listening for over five years. Now, stay major enjoy yourself. Thank you free to my emails on the show and. Please have dip on more men dip is very over tips. Vary over right now. I. Let me let me deal let's deal with that. I second. The character's motivation. This is not the only time that the Vince McMahon onscreen character is simply this is my sandbox. I'll do it. I want right. You may not like that it meant I understand what you're saying that to you. That's not compelling, but at the same time. It is. A thing that's been done before. This is this it is this and box. And while I agree. I wish there was a more. I mean, wh what you're essentially saying is you wish you could almost be out right about what the underlying thing is that has to be done in. This nuanced way. You almost wish it could just be overt. But obviously can't do that. Get Vince Donald sterling he as a public company, but. But but the thing is it's a character. Yeah. And also to think the question because people's been asking the question, what does Vince have against Kofi, and I don't necessarily think that that's the right question. A big two questions that better. Get at what we're seeing going on in. It's one. What does Daniel Bryan have against Kofi? And why is he able to influence Vince in that way? Because every time Vince has come out and screwed Kofi the opportunity. It's always been while. I spoke today O'Brien about this or Daniel Bryan thinks that and Daniel Bryan said, and or Daniel Bryan himself comes out and pins, and it has to has to be what is Daniel Bryan's issue with Kofi and wise, Vince, okay with that. I think those are the two questions that need to be asked. Because so far. Yes, Vince has been the one like screw with Kofi and everything like that. But you know, he was just quoting Daniel Bryan when he said that Kofi is a plus player in that Kofi doesn't deserve to be there and everything like that. So he's taking the brunt of it because he's rubber-stamping it all, but I think the focus needs to be what stay O'Brien's issue too. Because they both seem to be a partner in this. And. Yeah. And how did all of a sudden Daniel Bryan a character that? At least we know off camera. I can't recall on Cam. No they've made reference to it on camera to Vince has never been in love with. How did you all of a sudden start wielding influence simply because he has the title, right? And is that enough for him to now we'll dispatch where he gets whatever he wants because you're right. That's a really good point. And that's another question. Even as recently as world rumble build up when Daniel Bryan was looking face AJ. He was disrespecting in January. He was like your generation is old you ruined everything. Like this. Planet's messed up because you are greedy. And now a month later in lockstep with how they feel about Kofi Kingston. The question is what caused that? Greg question. That's a great point. It just happened that promos two seconds ago. And now here all of a sudden Daniel Bryan is. The biggest influence. Let's see. Have any other questions here? Okay mean Jean with Jay writes us? Male. If Kofi loses we quit Koffi Koffi mania running wild on Seth what's goods, we Peten S U g as you both know being a black W W fan is hard between Tony atlas as SABA Simba Kamala, Ron Simmons and that stupid helmet all of the shucking and jiving literally and figuratively Booker T wrestlemainia nineteen crime time in too many other name if for some reason Kofi isn't WW champion at the end of wrestlemainia. Is it time for black wrestling fans to give up it seems like if they don't pull the trigger? Now, they never will. Do we start hands up and throw in the towel number two on the pitcher podcast? He said that the reason Booker T didn't win the title nineteen was because it was all about crowning Brock. I don't believe it. But if that's true that clearly means that the WWF you WWE, universal an raw women's titles won't all change hands at wrestlemainia this year with that being said it's expected that Becky will win and Kofi should win. In. So as Kofi mania gonna run wild on Seth and on Seth and Brock. Hold on run wild on Seth and Brock retains. Oh. And Brock retains. Thanks for reading my long, Email and additions day, major yourself. I think take it easy, man. And Terry Funk's voice should be added. Because whenever I leave somewhere and say, take it easy, man. That's all I hear, you know. I couldn't agree with you more. And I do take it easy man since we played it so much and talked about it. And I believe we're the first people to ever point out, the take it easy. I think we all went when people groundbreaking in that and say we, but it's actually you you when you're right. It's it's because everyone's it's still. That's all you ever hear. But it's more about the whole thing. I just wanna thank each and everyone. For all your. It's still. The funny thing about it too. Is like is Terry funk tell have that will look like all the wrestlers of all the years. It has to be Terry funk who's done the most damage to his body telling this take it easy. It's so true. It's so true. Chris writes us. My mail. Hello, gentlemen. This questions were both of you. But most more so for the statler won your thoughts on this Kofi storyline. Especially about how Vince is essentially present himself as a grumpy plantation owner jas enjoy yourself and please get dip on the show. More are what we basically already covered that. Let's see. Vincent writes us as she Jay Vinson's. Male his majors the Antoni stat. Lous Shane looked like a complete savage when he'd be down the MS I think that if they can continue to make them look dangerous, the may could begin to tell the greatest untold story line and WWE Shane versus triple h for control of the company could fill a year worth of build up before mania blow off could be epic. If done correctly thoughts. I could not agree. You agree with you more Onis. He's Vincent signed it. Sorry from every girl's dream the Sicilian. Sweetheart Kenzo Marino Manch. Yeah. I agree. I think I think everyone agrees. Yeah. Now, Shane has come back. It's these story. I mean, listen as much as like, the Shane MS thing as turned out cool because MS I it's interesting to see baby face, MS etcetera, etcetera and Shane's done a nice job. Yada, yada. It's it's really still filler. There was never a real thing between Shane MS the tr- the trophies not even a thing. Yeah. The trophies nothing. It's so it made it to wrestlemainia because the Shane and MS is definitely feels like a placeholder feud for MS Bryan and Shane triple h. So at some point we gotta get both of those. Done. Right. And I do agree that this could fill a lot of time and we up to next mania. Yeah. I would I would absolutely love that. And I don't know. You'd have to go like at some point Shane is so savage to MS that triple h comes out pulls him off. You know, there's some way to get there. There's a lot of ways to get there. But yes, that would be the real deal that would be what people are are truly waiting for. So as you that brings me to this. You have an updated card in front of you. I do not your meet at you want me to do it. Can I get faster than you race to it? All right. Let you wanna race. Okay. Art. I got oh, I think you beat me by like all right here. We go. We have we have we have. Do you have the lettuce? Let's let no no I haven't. I'm looking. Let's let's go. Let's rate these matches. Either the majorly measure. Madge, or it was Ripon. I don't think I have an jas one here. So a major St. is the highest highest level pies level. It's v Mejias day. The major. Followed by so happy. Let me see hold on. Maybe maybe Morris has the perfect one more mo- Morris. More Morris can be the Ajay's one. This'll be jas. I see. Uh-huh. Okay. Okay. All right. So I will go to card be I see repod. There's also within that there's also Maggiore and m- minimum age. So we have like five different levels. So let's start out with. Currently, I'm sorry. Oscar TB D. Yeah. Two weeks removed. It was. It was. It has to be has the Repub. They understand that this past Tuesday smack that was all about Kofi Kingston Kofi mania, but they had a match with the iconic. They had MS cut a promo. They had Kevin Owens do something. They could have found two minutes to say Oscar's going to be defending the women's championship against whoever wins this match, especially when you consider they spent a lot of time on Becky and Charlotte, and they did the same thing. They've done ten times. Right. Yeah. So I know you need to have them on TV. But like Becky in Charlotte, minus Rhonda at this point. I I mean, I know you've got to do it. But you could probably just promote that with the package. I don't know if you need them both there to do that. So all right. So we'll start out with that's currently repugnant. Because we don't know what the match is yet Samoa Joe and Ramos stereo, I am going personally, it was repond. And I'm personally go with. Okay. I see Morris. I see. I I'm somewhere between the two because obviously there to phenomenal talent who will do great work together. So that part's made. But in terms of just out of nowhere Ramos stereo coming out with his now, giant sun and. An announcing that he's having his match with Samoa Joe. I mean, they've been involved in fatal four ways at cetera. But like, I there too great names to iconic talents to future hall of famers, in my opinion. I dunno Samoa. Joe's in need more accolades within WW, probably, but he's deserving of it. But there's no story to speak of as she. And I just saw I just saw both of them going a different way. And so I mean, am I is my reading influenced by the fact that they didn't go anywhere near where? I thought they were gonna go. Yeah. But that's why it's my opinion and my rating, and that's the best. I can give them as I see. Let's move on to the Andre the giant battle, Royal? Which as of now includes bronze Stroman, it was repugnant same that can't be were that can't be Braun strowman. Wrestlemainia gus? Can't be we already have ten matches on the card, and there's no room for Brown. Stroman can't be can't be. It was reported unanimously were you know. You're hurting me. Phil. Oh, I'm sorry. And then he and then the only thing we have in feuding with Colin Jost is not a winner. The thought of eating good make me throw up. AJ styles and Randy Orton. I'll do. Madge. But that's the lowest made I have I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with modular on that one. Measure just because of the levels of how Maggiore they both are. And you know, we'll get a great match. Yes. Yes. You know, what that's fair? That's fair measure at the same time do though as you gave your rating, I did get flashbacks of AJ and KO, and that was just not a good feud for either one of them, even though they too can have great matches and. So we'll see on potential on paper and just based on the fact that radio in seems to be inspired right now and enter heaven good matches and not just phoning it in. I'm gonna go with module. Shane mcmahon. And the MS I will go. Madge. Yeah. I'm right there with you. I am. It's cool. You know, like, I said, my most interesting thing here is that we're gonna see baby face, MS at wrestlemainia could be the only time only. So I'm into that. By the way, you can always reach out to us at Rosenberg beats at g mail dot com. That's how you do. So now as she g before we get into the rest of the matches because I'm honestly very excited about this portion of the show, I'm gonna keep you guys waiting for one more second. I have to shout out another one of our friends on the program. 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Right now, you can get their free crushing the five barriers to growth guide right now free at nets wheat dot com slash heat. That's net sweet dot com slash heat estrogen moving right along. Kurt Kurt angle and baron Corbin. It was reported. There's nowhere else to go for that match. Like the. You're hurting me. Now, I do have to say though, crystal theorizes that this is not gonna be the match that we get wrestlemainia. Wow. The valet valets weighing and she does not believe it's going to happen. Because. She said that making too much of a big deal about what the fans think slash thought. When the match was announced and because of that, she's expecting them to swerve into a completely different direction. Because she said usually they just don't care what we bake. Is she suggesting, and are you suggesting that this could be we could be in the middle of MS country, John CENA, and some ruthless aggression. I I would like that very much our like to see that. And putting that in the back of my brain. I do think we do see John CENA angle instead somehow, but it can't be. I got to say that's a sophisticated take from a converted wrestling fan. Very impressed. Let's go to triple h I is the one and only. Wait for it. Come on, man. Kissing babies and infect barrels. Let's see. Earned the right to do that by one in the rump. Oil I will I will give this a measure go. And I I know the build has not been great. I I know that with the exception of the way it started with the flair thing, which we all enjoyed since. Then it has suffered a bit. But I'm just pumped to see Teesta back. So a little bias. Then that is why I'm giving it the rating that I'm giving and I equally biased except I'm gonna go full Mejias the on this one. Go ahead and bestow highest. You're going full. You're going full may justly full major. Steve I'm gonna be star highest honor on this match because for one I know it will deliver. For too. Teesta Batista's in home promo just like a crime boss this past Monday was entertained by one hundred percent limitless mean potential from that the give me what I want promo. Huge fan of that one. And I didn't love give me what I enjoyed it. I enjoyed against huge potential. I think you should have said this in the first promo on kissing babies and hug infect girls. Don't you think? So what would have apply though, considered like all the charity work in, you know, good king? Hey, ch has been doing lately. But but yeah, that matches. There's no way that match doesn't deliver. And even even that. But he's calling his retirement match and say that he wanted triple h to be the one that he beats I think is kind of hilarious because but ceased is never lost triple h one on one. So that's even more funny that like he's sort of guarantee that he's going to go out on top by hand picking this dude that has never beat him. Even if it is triple h in on I wonder, and I. And I am curious about the outcome. I'll say that too. Yeah. I can't be you could see it either way. You could see them being teased as a big star now yada yada, yada. But at the same time. He's not going to be around and Batista is a wrestler. He might wanna go out looking at the lights. I could see him losing triple h because it's not going to be triple h his last match. He's got at least another mania not an did not to triple h is going to be wrestling for a long time. You say to I could see like five, but but either way that's strong either way. Teesta buddy. Murph, buddy, Murphy and Tony niece being. I don't know. I don't know. How about see? What's the one above that? I see what's the one above that. That's the thing you go from ic- to. Maj? Stop. Yeah. I'll go I'll go make uncle that of other lowest level made. I'm sure they'll have a good match. And that's the thing. Twelve five live just doesn't get its do though. It really doesn't because they do have good matches on. Am buddy. Murphy has been on fire. Tony niece has been killed it the whole time. She's been on that roster since the beginning MacKillop the whole time. So I think the two of them together are gonna be they're gonna do something special. But they just have to have it on the main card though, for people to see it can't be one of those pre show people fall into the building deals otherwise to a five dollars going to suffer the same fate into the next wrestlemainia that they've been suffering into this like people need to see it. The triple threat match for the raw women's championship. I think you gotta go measure. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, even with the fact that right now all of us are down on Rhonda, even though it's kind of now, I'll take into long things got clunky with Becky and the police in all lot of tropes. We've just seen before still. There should be really good wrestling. Ultimately, the match itself is going to be really good and Becky will likely get her moment, which I think could be very exciting. Yes. So I'm with you on the major St. not major St. the not giving full major STI because I mean, Rhonda's sorta takes me out of the building to this like, I think it's been good. I think they could have used more breaks as not something that we need to see every week. Around us sort pulled me away like low and my excitement level. Now don't think Becky comes out with the championship in the end. But I do think that's a unique evening Charlotte does rounding Charlotte. Show. They love everyone loves Charlotte winning big pay per view. That's for sure. Thanks, charlotte. Yeah. That's another. We could discuss that closer to mania. But. Is definitely where this one goes. It's not full may just just the build hasn't been flawless. And and I'll give Brock listener. And Seth Rollins midge. I just. It's going to be a great match. And there could be a great moment there. But at the same time the story the story for why I'm supposed to really be invested. I'm not sure SUV. Yeah. I'm gonna give them that as well. I do think it's gonna be a great match. I'm hoping that it's more like Brock listeners survivor series matches and his match with Finn than you know, the usual Brock list just dominates match. But we'll see. We'll see. I I am expected to be good regardless end. Yeah. I do think Seth also loses that mania. But again, we'll get to that. At the big wrestlemainia spectacular. So to make a long story short. When you go over the ten matches it exists two and a half weeks out. There's concern as you say what you say. What would you agree with that? Yeah. Yeah. But what was the last time? You had this much concern going into a wrestlemainia? Yep. Because they've been pretty they've been pretty on fire from like card standpoint for a while. On paper. This doesn't look as good as last year's or the years before. They got time to shake no, Jeff the moves around. Definitely not. Definitely not last year. Yeah. Let's see this might be on paper. The worst of the thirties. I gotta be. They've got to be worse than thirties. Yeah. Last year, Brock Roman. Let's go back. Let's take a look at. Thirty one. Thirty one had some stuff. Thirty one heads thirty one of which it's stinging triple h people looked at it crazy when a book did but ended up being really fun match. I love that match. Thirty. Daniel Bryan thirty day O'Brien opened close in the show. Had the undertaker shock. The weakest thing on it. The weakest thing on it was John CENA and Bray Wyatt. Random the shield verse Kane in the new age outlaws owl such short match. Well, it's funny. The only eight matches on that card. Now the last couple of years it's been way higher, and let's go back to. Eight matches. But the longest match was what twenty five minutes just shy of twenty five minutes just on twenty six. Give me. Twenty nine. Ms and Wade Barrett. Shield verse big show, Randy Orton, shameless. Mark Henry over Rybeck. This rough team. Hell no against big e and dolph fandango over Jericho. Oof. Del Rio over swagger. Okay. This is rough taker over Sam punk this one was met life. Why do they hate New York? And then Johnson the rock triple h and Brock. Yeah. It was it was back in New York. It's the worst one since then. That was worse though. Yeah. It was. It was. Twenty eight was in Miami. That had the Daniel Bryan instant match. Premo an epic. Oh over Justin Gabriel and Tyson Kidd shameless over Daniel, Bryan in two seconds. Cain Orden big show, and Cody Rhodes, Kelly Kellyanne marine nuno's if it had undertaker triple h then it had the team Jani against team. Teddy punk punk in Jericho rock sina. Also, not a good one, dude. Yeah. They've really they've really been great thirty three thirty four. That's the thing. They've been really great recently. So we'll see hopefully, this spike how it looks on paper this lives up to to where these past few maze have been 'cause 'cause they all like you said thirty thirty four have been on fire. Twenty. I'm going all the way back to twenty six. Big show in the MS over Morris in our truth. Did you did you skip rice seven just because it was that bad like this not non just I'm just bouncing bouncing around a little bit. But the the twenties were rough man. A lot of visit a rough one to think about the twenties. And even like the earlier mania is like those one match shows. So now we get in. Maybe is what people expect every match to be a banger which is a high bar. But yeah, because this this had undertaker and Shawn Michaels. So like you were still getting. You're still getting those. So it's just a different kind of animal. Twenty-three in Detroit. Carlito and Rick flair over Chabot, Gregory, Helms, Mr. Kennedy won money in the Bank, which was doped is when they have money in the Bank wrestlemainia, great Kali over Kane. I got something for that. It was. Ben watt verse MVP that was good undertaker over Batista EC w originals over the new breed luck. Remember, lash illogic Burks jacket? You like the crop. I do not remember that so strongly. I need to go back, and look, but there are some I mean. And for your trivia, if you're wondering, yes, Marcus Chor von was on a wrestlemainia card. Yes. That happened. As was Kevin thorn, so Molina over Ashley John CENA. Shawn Michaels so Twenty-three was rough. Twenty two. I think twenty twos a little better. Let's see a big show and Kane over Carlito Chris masters already off to a better tag team start our RV d one money in the Bank JBL over. Ben wa this arti better edge fully boogeyman Booker T, which was fun. Mickey and Trish undertaker. Mark henry. Shawn Michaels, Mr McMahon, Ramos stereo versus Orton an angle, Tori and Candice, Michelle, John CNN. Triple h that's a better. Don't you love how the postive wrestlemainia? Twenty two is a match that was not taking place on that caught like book T, and John CENA a soul far away from each other on that car. That is that is really insane. You're right. I don't even understand that. Poster. Why would that be the post? And then and then you get when once you get twenty nineteen eighteen seventeen basically, fourteen twenty are pretty awesome. What's he knows? What wasn't that? Oh, yeah. You know that was the show Michaels. One wrestlemania two. That's though that trash that's very harsh. But it's not. Not my favorite. Wrestlemainia two thousand that would be boss man, godfather, hardcore Holly crash Ali okay now and test versus Al snow and Steve Blackman. Okay. Edge and Christian that was in the great trying ladder match. Terry. Ronald verse the cat, China and to cool against the radicals. Ben wa over Jericho and Kurt angle. Are sorry, and then Jerico one fall too. And that was that was a good match and the triangle added mattress pretty good too. But other than that. You're right. Not other than that. It was bad. Triple h against the rock. And Mick Foley, and based show that fatal four way. Yeah. For now. No. That was a rough one. You're right. You're right. Take it back resume two thousand. By greatness, though, it is besides that. I mean, we'll see we'll see where this one ends up. Listen, this is certainly there's already at least three or four matches that will ensure this is not among the worst ones. We just talked about. But. There's still there's still some work to be done. And obviously, we will feel a lot better. If next week you add Kofi, Brian Kofi, Kingston versity annual Brian for the WB championship. And if we find out who ask opponent is going to be although. I can't remember who exactly is in the running. I think Sonia Vail, Mandy, rose. And. Carmella and they only so I mean at least asked will get an opponent. I don't know if that's gonna do much to bump her up to majeure or past which is right now. But. At least Osco having. As you have something for you over here. Black. And I'm black. Because you know. Y'all. There's only one person it could be one through three one through five one through ten. Kofi Kingston that gauntlet match was hot fire. He didn't end up coming away with that w championship opportunity. But that's all right because he gave in a plus performance. You could see the crowds behind the when we all thought he was going to wrestlemainia after that victory. Over end your shenanigans are gonna keep him out of the title match for now. But his performance is going to keep him in the black power rankings this week by himself. Damn right. Aiding? Kofi Kingston so happy early on in that match. I was so happy. And then it went I see. And then ended is not a winner. Oh, I'm sorry. That was a really good batch day. O'brien too though is short, but it was really it was really fun wishy with pulled out the win. But there was no way. He was going to beat the afresh w champion after you can't do that. Not when you're. Yeah. That's when you knew it was impossible. I thought maybe they're gonna bring out you know, I was waiting maybe here for big daddy v to come out or. King Kong Bundy. Or? Andrei? You know, somebody one of those guys, but Yoko? We had no chip once. I table a lot. Once I always Daniel, Bryan. It was it was what what else who's number two Kofi is dialogue. Dial on dialogue. This house all about Kofi dot sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't realize even said at the beginning. That's terrible of me. I'll just say this. Stupid John lead. John C low level icon did get a win this week over. The women's tactic champions. I'll tell you what though, you know. I love the iconic but their in ring, they do not look ready for a match with Sasha and Bailey. Am I wrong about that? They just don't look up to snuff. I don't think they're bad. But I mean, they're slow there. Everything looks very thought out. It looks tough. Also, as you did you notice what I said in the chat the other day that over the last two weeks WWE has stopped something they've done for years. And that is when there's a big slow MO spot in the replay. They don't speed it up at the end. They let the slow finish out in Slow Money notice that although I gotta say what some with some spots. I like the slow MO being sped up at the end. And with others. I could see the need for like keeping a slow MO such can see what actually happened that needs to be somebody doing a case by case basis. Yeah. Right now, if you go look, though, they never did it. It was like no matter what it was. They would speed it up at the end. Even if all do they coulda showed that in slow MO looked awesome. They wouldn't do it. If you look now, they they're letting a lot of things play out in slow. Mo it's interesting just a little nerdy. Nerdy thing that I noticed you're gonna go to hit me. And I'm getting this. You're gonna miss I'm gonna hit you. That's right. So anyways. I don't know. I said this week. I would know for sure we're not gonna do a live cheap. Eat. I'll just be honest. I'm not feeling it. I I guess I was unsure of what my plans would be and seeing as I don't think I'm working that weekend. A just if I'm being honest with the cheap universe. I not really in the mood to do anything that doesn't mean last minute. We won't throw a little heat and greet together to grab beverages one day somewhere in Brooklyn. I could definitely see doing that. You know, maybe even wrestlemanias Sunday. You know, if I'm if I'm not working. I don't see why can't we can't do something maybe before little pre-game or something. But as of right now, I haven't had anything plan. I've just been swamped with a lot of different things that I'm working on which will come to light sooner than later. But you know, that that's where Mattis, gee, I wish I had a more hardcore answer for everyone. And when I say hard core. I don't mean like the new breed Marcus, Kevin thorn, talking salmon, you know, what I'm saying. Well, you you deserve to enjoy a mania as a fan if it happens to be the one where you got home court advantage. And why not right? This is the one to enjoy his fan if any. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, you're right. Just hang out and chill. I feel like some oh Joon wrestlemainia couple years ago. I had nothing to do. I mean, listen there've been there've been better talents than me who had nothing to do on wrestlemainia Sunday. But wander around. We're not we're not gonna start naming names. She the Renault. I'm in a league company. I mean, listen, Alexa, bliss only hosting wrestlemainia. This is true. She she could be the most over woman in the entire women's divisions. She's just hosting. I would have done. Excellent job hosting wrestlemainia. She certainly better than Colin Jost, Michael correspondence as well. I mean, and this is nothing that does did shea. But I mean, come on I chase a good guy. I consider myself very friendly with them don't know, Colin Joe's. But I mean, come on over Rosenberg for what out, of course, is a is a cool, dude Ida friend who at the high school with them and said, he made their math teacher cry in class, which I think is kind of hilarious. But I don't know. I don't know. How that's how you translate cool SUV? It's weird standard. But listen, you're weird guy. So the Matt on, but if they save despite that that he seems to be like a pretty cool chill person to be around. Nice guy. Right Romans the best. They gotta find something for him is facing resume. He didn't accept well. It's gonna it's gonna be it's gonna be Roman and drew McIntyre just going to be let's get these guys together, which I think it'd be a good match. Now, it'll be fine that. Make. Oh, and we're going to have the the raw women's the women's tag match is going to be some sort of triple or quadruple threat women's tag match. So they're gonna have Sasha Bailey. Probably verse Beth and Talia verse nyah and to mean ah verse the iconic that will probably be thrown on there as well feel about that like that being the combination of the four tactique. I don't think there's any rhyme or reason to it. It's just to get a lot of people in the match. You feel different. I mean, I feel like could have been annexed t- tag team thrown in essence, they tease out eventually the definitive that. At an x t but they, but they already broke up. They already broke up the idea that it's one from each tag, you know, one division because. Italian and Beth are on raw Italian least is and so our Nyanza Amina. Yeah. So I I feel like that Beth Phoenix. Talia spot coulda gone to the next team. Maybe but also, you know, Beth Phoenix hall of Famer. So maybe she brings in the legend spot. She takes that box. Right. You could look you could look at it like that as well. Too. Another man who's been waiting anxiously. With anticipation is name is just Harvey hardy. We'll probably see them on the kickoff show. I'm guessing versus the USA does that was hinted at at least. Yeah. This tough. 'cause you want them on the main card where everybody can't make the main card. The use did make the main card last year. Right. Yes. The streak ended estrogen. We'll do it again next week hopefully have some positive things that discuss. Oh my goodness. Enjoy the basketball this weekend and enjoy yourself. You know? Oh, yeah. They make. Take it easy, man.

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WKPWP - Thursday Flagship - Keller & Fann evaluate current WrestleMania likely line-up, Cody emergence, NXT Takeover fallout, more (2-20-20)

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

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WKPWP - Thursday Flagship - Keller & Fann evaluate current WrestleMania likely line-up, Cody emergence, NXT Takeover fallout, more (2-20-20)

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We'll have a new A setup in time for many of this year where people have to pay premium to access it through some other distributor. But who knows? But when I look at this lineup if we were in the old the lineup as we see it at this point and it can be some surprises. I think about the old buyer eight days when we looked at well they do a million. How many more how? Many fewer brock listener against drew McIntyre Ray Ripley Against Charlotte. Becky presumably against Shayna. Baseler edge against Randy Orton. Those are good matches but it doesn't feel like there's that tipping that Majer special attraction or comeback that tips people into go who otherwise wouldn't be predisposed to watch just a good card. Actually get back in the network game undertaker AJ STYLES. Aj hinted about that on Monday. Seems like they're going that direction. Is that enough undertaker in stage a Ho- how do your macro vibe about the developing lineup? At this point I think I agree with you and looking at this year's Wrestlemainia this might be. The last vestiges of the network era. Mania is because they had the free to do that. I think you're right looking at that. Five or six match or even seven depending on how things fall match lineup. There isn't something that moves the needle that you would see on. Espn that you would see on some of the major mainstream news outlets outside of their favorite friends. That would talk about. Hey Why is this happening? There isn't a Tyson fury. There isn't a You know if I go back to my days use there isn't a Bam Bam bigelow Lawrence Taylor where you're just like Whoa. What is this and so I think you're right. I think this is a great opportunity for them to continue with that and hopefully by next year. Some of those names you mentioned a charlotte. A flare and Ripley or McIntyre for instance can be a star. That's established enough. That people would want to see them versus either in outside or maybe an established wrestler. That's come back But for now I think this is going to be a strong WRESTLEMAINIA for the hard cores. But maybe not as strong for some of those neutrals or folks who have kind of whittled away way from the network. They had a character in certain respects. Hard to measure metrics. As far as it goes with the fiend people are curious about them. People talk about them when his music plays. I think people look at the TV set. If they're looking at their phone or in the kitchen but from a character standpoint he's getting cheered and maybe laughed at and seen as more of a curiosity than somebody who's storyline they're invested in when you look at an x t takeover people are invested in. Keith leased journey. They want they want to see him. Achieve when you watch eighty w those fans are deeply invested in Cody's journey and we can pick other for those rosters but with the fiend. There's not a journey. There's unfortunately a character who sort of has regressed from the early month when there was wears going announcer like okay. It's just sort of some flashes on the appears on the screen. He says some things that are kind of fun to visually look at. But it's more of a music video than movie or a TV series and that it's more just the of the emotions you feel in that moment and the problem is if Roman reigns is his opponent and when you look at the smackdown roster there's nobody else so Roman reigns goes into Wrestlemainia and it's weird when I look back when I listened back at our shows from five years ago that we put up here on our feed every week. Lot of Roman reigns talk a lot about the strengths and the weaknesses of his character and how he's positioned push in here. We are five years later and I feel like we're in a very different place with Roman reigns. He's just another guy right now. There's not this sense of him being the centerpiece in a lot of conversation surrounds him. And they're going to put them into a wrestlemainia situation. Where I don't know with Vince? Mcmahon's booking how fiend doesn't get shared and Raines doesn't get booed by a big part of the audience and that I don't see an emotional hook the way that people are emotionally hooked on what we see. Aws successfully doing cody and others. And what he's doing successfully with with Keith Lee and others. I don't see how they get there and that's where I don't think the universe championship the fiend. This new character Roman reigns a guy for five plus years. We've been talking about as Vincent centerpiece attraction for better for worse. It doesn't feel like that matches as big as maybe vincent man in his own mind thinks it's going to be. What do you think about that? I think you're right and I think when you bring up cody he's the best example of what you're talking about. In my opinion because by all rights a person. Who's part of a book media Vice President of the wrestling company he wrestles four and has been a person who is the son in Ceylon of a wrestling? Family should get the vitriol that Roman gets and has gotten in his career as the top guy but the biggest differences. And we've talked about this and you've talked about this over the years the emotional availability and and Roman showed that when he left and then return from cancer. But they've gone back you you said something a minute ago. That really stuck the as McMahon's sees him so the way Vinci's him isn't really what we need to see. We need to see more of Roman as Roman. But we don't get that anymore. We got it that I like Monty was back but slowly. They started to recede now. They thought playing him as a Guy. Instead of the guy would allow folks to kind of forget why they were bullying him or maybe kind of play them against their baser instincts. Where you don't want to boost the guy who came back from cancer but invariably we're back to the point where he's getting the fifty fifty maybe sixty forty but choline. It's not even not even the forty. He's getting booed. Isn't even like we care a lot about you don't like you. It's SORTA like it's diff- it's like if there was anything good about him being booed by a lot of the audience. I think the good aspects of the bullying has gone. And it's more booing sort of bored with you because it's a protest vote and it's not like Daniel Bryan. Who went from that weird? What are you to now? He's back to the status of we all love you. We all understand what you had to do. He doesn't even get that. Grace of we understand is the company has not you? It's just what are you doing here? Man and that's bad especially when you consider they've they've set up the fiend be this in indestructible thing. So if he eats like five superman punches in a spear and goes down after after a sledgehammer didn't kill him. That's going to. That's not going to help me. So when we look at the assets of the wrestlemainia lineup fiend and rains. I mean I bring it on then took man and wwe. If you've got a good story you can tell I want I want to see open minded to it. I just don't know listen two months out. Now how how they tell a story in the next six seven weeks that that. That isn't anything other than a story. That people sort of look at it and can take it or leave it and it's more kind of curiosity. I just in five years. I just don't know that we've seen Roman reigns step up in grow where I could see him. Being really engaged in what destroy line with a fiend is in a way where he grows as a character. I think there's a little bit of what. Golden State is going to discover with Andrew Wiggins. There's a certain talent a certain baseline you get with him. But there's not this deep love for the game in an emotional investment that comes through in the story lines that wwe presents them with in that limits. The story lines they can present him with and I think we're going to get some hocus pocus and some of you know fun interviews with a fiend but not a real sense of something at stake in part of that is the valuing of the universe championship and I think. Wwe's Don a much better job creating a sense of value in the women's championships than they have the mets and does a great job. I Mean Adam Cole gloating about his victory Dominic di Jakovic last night wanting another shot at the North American Championship. It's it's very deeply personal between those two in terms of rivalry but it's also about the title but with the Universal Championship with a fiend. It does feel like it's just become a prop the answers. Don't talk about it. The. Fiend doesn't talk about it as something that matters enough that the fans who are invested in the narrative of WWe would rally behind reigns to take it from him. Is that an issue to absolutely in it and when you look at the way that they have things set up again the fiend is a mask and as much as I like the creation of that mask and the Hollywood level attention to detail they put into it to make it horrific. He's just a mask is belt is a prop. That's now been given a mask alternate attire and at at some point once he started wrestling the thing that we were all afraid of or at least most of us were when it came to anything. Bray wide has is a creative mind. Is that the creativity is GonNa be there but then when he has to start wrestling. There's only so much you can do within the ring. I thought it was very strange. For for instance. What allowed him to simulate breaking someone's neck. It's like a setup to this next move. I thought that was pretty visceral in own outlets out of the box but now we hit these blouses and all of a sudden. The champion shouldn't be doing this and as much as people you know. I I saw on twitter. There was this backlash from a number of ignorant folk that said Kofi was the worst. W We champion in its history and how much buffoon ism he brought to the title and I was just flabbergasted. Looking at that but looking at the fiend. He doesn't care about being champion. No point do you hear that mission statement? I want to do this to win. Titles make money like you said when you hear it on annex t when you hear it with heck when you hear it from even I would say the worst women's champion on the Right now in terms of like the treatment would be Bailey and she till talks about the title is something to be cherished defended and in her. He'll way she'll do it so that you don't see it as an honorable thing she's doing any means necessary retain it with the Phoenix just there and it's a new thing that's in his playhouse even other rose on aws. Like I'm I should have been champion now. I have the championship that observed now. I should be on the posters. Now I should be or she said among the top paid women I think she should say should be the top woman They talk about all the things that come with being champion and wwe with when it comes to the men's titles. I mean there's a different vibe with listener and Heyman. It's more of a special attraction setup with them but it has more of kind of a sports like big boxing. Big Emma May vibe to it and you can there's pros and cons to it but it's different than I think. Defensible with the fiend. I just I do not as I look at this. See a justification now. I wasn't in favor of before. And they haven't convinced me that giving him. The Universal Championship was was helpful. I mean I is giving a person a plate of food like why. There's a hungry person right next to you. Somebody else will benefit from that championship. And you get an extra match audit they can do. Fiend Roman reigns without a title or they can do fiend against a different baby face in have Roman reigns going after whoever the heel champion is and they've done I mean shameless. Could've come back as a baby face. And the fiend could have terrorized. I mean you've seen shameless in fiend is on Wrestlemainia and people want to see the fiend and shameless. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. You put them in there. You could have done a story. Line with with the fiend and Co Kofi or the new and Biggie built him up as a singles and not had them in a tag match. They'll get lost in the shuffle and you would get the fiend on wrestlemainia against a baby face people like and then you would have universal title match. Also I just don't think the feed act has benefited and I think he's pulled down the value of the universal titles so again we're got a month and a half plus to go. Let's see what they do and if they have something in mind that will impress me but I'm not there yet. Searching for more great pro wrestling talk then join me. Jason Powell hosted the free weekly pro. Wrestling boom podcast. Each week. You'll hear the latest news and analysis for me and my team at pro wrestling dot net along with other pro wrestling media members plus the pro wrestling boom podcast features long-form interviews with notable names in the pro wrestling industry subscribing. Itim STITCHER DOWNCAST. And all your favorite secondary APPS or visit us directly at POW BOOM DOT com once again that's pw boom dot com. Elias is apparently where they're going on. Cnn coming back to smack. Is it not a week from tomorrow right right? Yeah Yeah So. We won't find out for a little while. Officially what do you think of China saying? Y'All come back but you know I'm kind of this. I'll be special attraction and a fun. Little sideshow thing But not seen scenic came back and gave a big speech about something in the fiend attacked him and then they tell their story out seen against the Fien to me. That would be one of the bigger needle moving angles and matches. They could put on Wrestlemainia and without the universal title or with universal title. I mean I don't you don't need to peel it off of the fiend and remove that from the story line for it to work but it's better if he doesn't have it because then someone else can be fighting rains for. The belts can be defending it. That makes more sense but apparently that's either Vince doesn't want to do that or seen. As sort of given the vibe let me go do something fun if you know what? I mean and it's interesting that whenever we talk in when as always thank you get a chance to say beyond the whenever we talk about this stuff. It's wild to me. The things that Vince is. Vince cares about in terms of long term. Big arching storytelling. In the things. He say folks will remember for instance seen it. We just saw Sina and Elias last year when Sina came back and did his doctorate economic steel and battle. Wrap them and kind of deal with Iraq had been doing the last few years he would appear not have a match and just come out and beat guys up and so what am I to believe that. In addition to traveling the world doing all these movies potentially making a billion dollars with the fast series. Johnson has been thinking about actually penned Elias. Exactly that makes no sense. So I think when you mentioned the Phoenix that is a fiend is a number one John Cena type. Excuse did it when he came. Back and Cain said he was going to have them in braces dark side. Whatever that meant and he did it when he took on all the other guys in this era of Oh my God is John did go. He'll and then I'll say I learn a new dance step. I'd got an ice. He'll turn all those little silly things he would say. This Promo was just a wink. The folks who are slowly burning themselves up from the inside that he had turned heel. That would be a good match because seeing a beating the fiend is vintage. Seen a you know I'm sure Cole will sue me at some point percent but putting Roman in that situation is an invitation for him to get ridiculing that booing Daniel Bryan. I mean Daniel Bryan matches made more sense if he came back. I figured being is inappropriate is. Wwe could be sometimes with some this familiar stuff outside of the the command family with the recent announcement that that Nikki embryo pregnant that they put him in danger. Brian back together in some awkward. I guess your ex found her life after you type deal to try to humiliate John for not staying within the family but with Bellas and wwe that little sneaky thing like when they had John. Do the same thing that the rock or have them. Just be the host of Russell media in call it there. Yeah Johnson Hosa Mania or works just as well and you can still do an ally skit you can even do. Do a attitude adjustment if you wanted so if we look at. Sina was a wildcard. How do they play? They played in a way that I don't think there's a difference maker. It's it's an amusing sports entertainment match but it's not something that gives a boost wrestlemainia for. I think a lot of people on the fence about whether they're going to make a day of it and so or Nej is is. I think a basket where they're putting a lot of a lot of their eggs that this is a deeply personal match it. How how effective Ken Orton? Edge be at seeming. Like a got to be there for this moment. If you're again one of those fans he's on the fence about whether you're going to buy the network and get back on board this year. I think that one is as we just said all that stuff with Sina with orphanage. I mentioned this. I did for my Valentine's Day episode of the deep dive Every year I have my wife on and talk with her about what she's learned in wrestling over the year watching my son. Watch it in watching me. Watch report for the torch and commentator on and her biggest takeaway has been. She doesn't watch wrestling. Melissa is not a wrestling facial. Watch some of the women. She'll watch whoever trae my son likes. She is an edge fan and she became an edge fan when she watched him get his neck. Nearly quote Unquote re-broken by Randy. Orton met Monday after the rumble. Because all she could talk about when she would jump in our little G Mail chat was. Why did that guy hit edge? When he knew edge it had bad neck and they were friends. Like I don't understand like why would you do something like that? And for her as a neutral person to be that into it I think is a great signal especially with edges improve presence In television and movies Vikings was a really big show has been a big show for history channel. I think that's something. They should put their money. Because that's a traditional wrestling few people with your motion. The journey of EDGE COMING BACK. I look forward to at some point. Twenty twenty him winning the world title. I don't know which one most likely the universal in a you know. Just like they did with michaels. When he was wearing those pants that had the belt built ended up which is conversation for different dam. Sure but I think that's a good one to build off of and I think I'd love your opinion on it but I think this is the first time in years. It's been motivated. I agree I mean. Randi seems motivated. There's always a risk of people cheering. We had one in a one more time chance that kind of thing. I think that has some. I talked about this on another podcast week. I think that the ration randy is more based on the culture of wwe the cultural presentation and how fans are are are trained to react to things at spectacle. Not like if you get into a really well written TV series or even if you're watching a sitcom but you're invested in the characters you get lost in that world you know. I mean if I know a lot of people are watching succession. Right now are eager for season three to come out and they are super invested in the characters and what happens next with that family with. Wwe The the tone of the announcing and the follow up on angles and the unrealistic way. Certain things or even filmed and presented in a more. Hollywood way that breaks from the rest of the structure of the show takes people out of it and now it just becomes about big spots. And it's it's one of the issues that I have with the celebrating of what cody did last night. Off the top of a cage you know. And we'll get to that in a moment but to me leaping off the top of a cage like that and traffic standing is when you conquer an opponent. He'd been feeding with longtime longtime not getting over a hurdle to get to your real enemy and wrestling sometimes seeks moments instead of stories and I think with orange there is a part of the Fan Base. And it's the fault of WWe. Not Those Damn millennials or whatever. Whoever wants to blame they react to being there. I can't believe I was there that night. You know people say that about last night and I get it but from or I was there when I saw ordinance edge but what you want is emotions not moments separated from emotions and I worry about that a little bit with Randy. He's motivated what I don't know that he's do. He's playing this great. He'll in a company that has largely extinguished. He'll heat despite the fact that in the the way they book is hard coded to put heat on heels in terms of the angles. They do and the way they present characters but then they had this whole outside structure that extinguishes a heel heat by having the announcers largely justify heels doing what it takes to win a rules structure and we saw the battle royal on eight last night. That makes baby faces a look like buffoons for not taking advantage of the rules because nobody seems to act like following. The rules is important. You actually get rewarded and praised for finding a way around the rules. And so when you have that circulating the hard coded attempt to get heel heat in what they do in the ring but this whole rural structure and announcing structure that permeates modern wrestling that extinguishes. That you end up with people channing. Randy Orton one. More time. When he's destroying a sympathetic character like Matt Hardy so we can praise what they're doing with ordinary is motivated but I actually think he's a really fascinating example of why wrestling bookers should step back and figure out how to create an environment where fans are cheering moments and cheering for randy to do one more. Because they don't take seriously what they're saying I would also say when you look at the hardest situation. That's also an example of not knowing the sell by date of the rest. Is You have both for good and for ill. In the case of hardy they have so much using one of my dad's old phrase like meat on the bone that they could have been using them instead of trying to play out the string with them. And then you get this thing with Orton that ties in so many aspects of edges career Ordonez career invariably hardy in his involvement in both of their careers. And do it the one week. And it's like oh. Wow people still care about this guy. Maybe we should do something with him again and then they do it again and you get the one more time because no one's invested they're invested in the novelty of him coming back but you haven't given them the feeling of what you did with edge where this guy is balling in saying. I'm back and this is why I'm back. Here's what I need. And then. Oh God that this guy is taken away from Yup. I Agree Aloha Torch Faithful. This is Kelly wells host. Pwg talks xt every Thursday. You can hear me and my Game Idiots Tom Style. Who share thoughts from the live tapings and Torch Recap Bernie limbered as well as a rotating cast of guests cover the matches and events in annex t live on USA network search torture and Apple podcasts? Or Your podcast. App to subscribe or listen on demand and seeing the entire. Pw Torch daily schedule at PW. Torch daily CAST DOT COM cheers. Well I still want somebody. But let's pause for a second so we set the table and introduce ourselves. This is the way. 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So we'll talk so much takeover an annex t also on the the wrestlemainia front there's also undertaker styles and styles really laid the groundwork for that by talking about him being Mr Wrestlemainia and touting himself as this really really really really historically significant big deal very much setting up the pins for for undertaker to show up and knock them down and go. Who Do you think you are? You're not Mr Wrestlemainia until you whatever. What is the next step in that? Do you like the idea of. Aj this he's in his forties. It's weird saying that. But he's still a super athlete. He can create any can still have a really good match with just about anybody. Undertaker has looked frail and brittle and not himself for the past few years of age styles might be the opponent where they can work some magic and have a good match. I I like that better than say undertaker against Kane in a he'll matchup or undertake against the fiend where it's just going to be all hocus pocus but is styles undertaker. Do you like the match. And is there any risk in utilizing styles no? I don't think there's a risk I think the one issue I would have with it though is the fact that AJ styles is just coming off of an injury. And which you mentioned I about undertaker similar what happened in Saudi Arabia. He had some instances where he hasn't gotten guys up. And Kinda slip during moves and I feel like age. Anc generating this much movement. There might be a situation where that could lead to a bad bad bad spot literally for him but in terms of the overall match. I think this is the best of what's on the table. The only other option. I thought could have been there form especially with all this talk of being the Monday night. Messiah would been seth but That would that would have been the only thing that really jumped out. His could generate that movement. Be Trusted to be in the ring with the undertaker and make it look good. The you bring up Seth rollins in it's it's notable that we haven't brought him up in terms of the wrestlemainia lineup. What do you think about the Monday? Night Messiah Gimmick and how it does doesn't take advantage of Seth's potential relative to other alternative ways to portray him. And and how do you feel then about what's being set up? Wrestlemainia wrestlemainia because when we talk about the top matches at mania again. It's listener drew Ripley Charlotte Becky baseler seen as a special attraction gets Elias. Say what you will about it. But it's John Cena the fiend against rains or against edge undertaker styles. Let me count that up. I think that's seven matches deep seven matches deep. And we haven't talked about Seth Rollins who in the last year or two was at times being crowned the centerpiece guy. You don't want rain was out without a definite return. Date south was getting the winds tainted or not over listener. And it was like. They're going all in with him. Whereas whereas seth now in Deerfield that what they're doing with Ko and Samoa. Joe Is they're just going to do some sort of blow off match for that at Mania and if so is that good enough I don't think it is and I don't think it's good enough for any of the principles involving even Buddy Murphy getting brought into this circle having an opportunity to participate with them while it seems like it's been a good elevation form this Monday night. Messiah deal with Seth. I love the jacket he wears and the glove the look he looks like again. He's the extreme version of bad analogy. Made 'em owned DMV a couple of years ago but now it's even worse. It's even more pretentious. It's like he took the worst of Alexis Shits Creek and made it part of his personality and brought that to the fore and that's annoying and great but the thing is again with the wwe booking heels his whole ethos is on my heel. Because you guys did like me. Which is the exact opposite of when I became faced. Which was. I'm a face because the bands don't like me and that shouldn't be the reason he's doing all of this. He should have been more. You could testicle. He should be maybe a little flighty and a little lack of introspection. When it comes to some the mistakes he makes but the way they set him up doesn't help Samoa. Joe Doesn't help Joe Mojo and it doesn't help Kevin Owens because those are two guys who should be you know Kevin Owens. The best thing about him being a faces. He recognizes all of the hill tactics because he was a heel and even when joe was injured when he was a commentator. The best thing for me before a beat up was him. Admitting I'm a bad man and I understand what bad men do but I'm not going to bully people that can't fight me and so that's what's missing there's I really don't understand. Why South is a Messiah other than Vincent? We're fixation on Christianity in terms of his gimmickry. That's all I got need. An extra dose of positivity in your wrestling podcasts will come join me out for L. Over in the progress Paradise Torch Vip as we BOSC on the bright side of wrestling and focus on some of the great matches and chose from around the world. Be at the. Us Japan Europe or Mexico. There's always a place of residence passed in the paradise to. We've done fun. Historical shows such as the we love ligers series celebrating glorious career of Juche Thunder like on our. I was there when shows where guests will join me talk about a classic boat that they were in attendance for we love variety and you can expect lots of at the Progress Paradise Detailed Peter Roof torch. 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We're not but I think it's a good time to assess where they are in where where there's route where I was gonna say room where there's almost an obligation for them. The need for them to make sure they have good storylines to support some of what they're doing and how to utilize talent best. How do you grade them right now? With a women's side of things with more we're Nala one. St last night characterized the next T- women's title. He said in less than a decade. It's been elevated to Wrestlemainia now. I'm not sure what that does for the St Brand to have the lead announcer of x t saying you're elevating championship moving into mania. Of course that's true. I just don't know if the announcer the announcer for the brand. Who's supposed to be loyal to it? I C triple h saying that in a conference call with the media like he would watch his words more carefully but maybe maybe more ahead of talking to or maybe triple. H is all in on the brand building and and try to give a boom. It's title it is though a higher profile position for that title. And that's a big match with a rising star for those who have only been watching. The top level shows a star coming out of nowhere in Ripley who looks depart in his convincing in the ring and in her ring entrance in her. Look THE DEMEANOR. She gives off. She seems every bit a suitable opponent for Charlotte. My opinion and I think that's that's a big match and it's a fresh match for Charlotte and Ripley. My worry is that they're going to muddy. The waters with brand comments like lawler had on Monday instead of making the straight up. The Ron Answers are portraying charlotte. He'll not as someone representing the brand against Ripley So yeah your your thoughts on that in. Its positioning and it's hype so far. I think that I agree with you about the way moral said it but I in in comparison to how lars presenting things I would rather it be posited as an opportunity that viz young upstart gets a chance to unseat someone who's a little bit further down the road because given what they've done in the world of WWe by one in that royal rumble in declaring. She wanted to challenge Ripley. She has you know he fairly not in concert. Sticking to what they're they're talking points on the show or not that's the fifth best title in the company because there's no other titles that you've ever challenged for via Aurora and so especially given that there's only three women were rumbles. You've now gone for a raw smackdown. Inex- T I think if that was if I'm listening to the right order ahead In terms of who they were looking at as far as our smackdown raw annex t in terms of championship. I'd rather do that like you said I don't want it to be something where you're saying brands have primacy. Bryant's premacy at Yatta. I'd rather it be set up kind of like what the NFL has the way the Patriots in the chiefs set up this year? Where Brady's the old guard of maybe a little. You don't make another quarterback that's a little younger like Russell Wilson Versus mahomes maybe back in two thousand eighteen. Where it's like this guy. Maybe the stages too big forming. No you know the seahawks go on to win the game. And it's not a pat on the head it's a he's arrived and he can be seen as an equal. I think with RIA. She's already at that point. I know I saw some people on twitter in the WWe mentioning. And I'm hoping that they're not going to do this. Because this is the bane of my existence when it comes to wwe bringing inputting making a three way match and putting Bianca end and Bianca's been when you look at the ratings. I Really Credit Brandon Thurston Howard and his AAC is outstanding extensive coverage of the quarter hours in putting them in spreadsheets. Bianca's been their biggest gainer in terms of percentage in viewers when she's on the screen and her appearance compared to the seal. And that's really. I Love Bianca Bel Air but I also just like last year when you have the on around this time. Don't want it to be a situation where it's muddied. Ira I would have rather seen becky versus Rhonda Full Stop then Becky Rhonda Charlotte and same thing here. I WANNA see when it's time beyond overs shop. I WANNA see RIA versus Bianco Rio versus short. I don't want this three-way stuff chest. Because they feel like that's the path of least resistance. I agree the idea of everybody's got to be on Wrestlemainia To the at the expense of putting on the best one on one or two on two matches is Is something I've spoken out against for a long time. I think it's better to have feelings hurt That can be made up for with with Nice paycheck for participating in a multi person match on the kickoff show or something but make sure wrestlemainia features your best most marketable and preferably one on one match ups inlet Belair. There's no reason for blurred Charlotte's show the spotlight save for Ripley Charlotte to share the spotlight with Belair. I don't think because also muddies the water you get to annex t wrestlers an and then the storyline of Charlotte for the Star Power for Ripley Charlotte. Is there let them split that spotlight? Two ways not three ways and tell there's a time for triple threat matches. I can see that and I think it should happen about once every two or three years when it's just clearly what needs to happen in order to settle the few that all roads lead to. We need to get these three in the ring at wants to solve this not not to muddy the dynamic in the emotions that you can get in Charlotte. He'll ripley as you phrased it well to as the up and coming breakout star against the one who paved the way in. Can't stop talking about how she paved the way as if everyone needs to go down to her because she paved the way as opposed to just proving herself in the ring. One on one. How about baseler going through? What what she's going through. I've got my issues with the that bit the flesh off a beckoning lynch and the next week. There's no talk of any ramifications for that but instead we'll take a non roster wrestler who did not sign a contract for raw invaded and tried to eat part of one of our wrestlers that led to her needing to be taken to the hospital. And the next week will recap it. Becky talked about it. But there's no of an authority figure reacting to it in a way where you would think that it's anything but a spectacle because now she's been rewarded an opportunity to be in a signature match on a pay-per-view that could get her a main event level title match. I just don't get it. I don't get how how anyone can take anything Randy Orton doing seriously or anything. Fiend might do to ever opponent seriously when Basil or does that. And it's like hey look at this video package. And now she's been edited roster and rewarded with a chance to move to Wrestlemainia. I just think it's it's absolutely nonsensical approach to booking when you book stunts but then don't book a follow up that frames them in the way that you would expect. You didn't do that because you want you want people to be mad at at. Shane Obeys Ler. Who loved Becky Lynch? And then the next week. They just extinguish it by acting. It was just another day at work last week and you can again. Compare this to exte- where you have rain Gonzales. Or Now Rachel. Gonzalez debut and assist Dakota Chi and they're bragging about it and then William Regal instead of allowing that to continue casually walks up to them and says hey you know that was great debut really appreciate you guys talking about how much you appreciate each other. But we're GONNA have a cage match with Dakota and Teagan and you can't get involved have a good day and then off. He pops you can do that. You don't know they don't WanNa have because they had that speech where they declared the fans with GM's now or whatever silliness. The McMahon family said that when they tried to blame you know poor Page on the reason why the ratings were down instead of just bad writing. I think that in this case it makes no sense to me that you go into this and you turn a legit fighter into a vampire and you know by deep more than by word. I did her using foul language and I appreciated her also following up with folks who complained. 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Apple podcast or your podcast APP to subscribe wrestling night in America every Sunday. Pw Torch daily Dot Com. You mentioned I'll do a quick. Cyber here Dakota Cayenne Gonzalez. They Koci came across on the paper. Be Sunday or the events as if she wasn't behind. Gonzalez is interference. She acted perplexed and surprised and really unsure of how she should react and I'm still digesting whether their alliance there united front that they put up on Wednesday connects a logical way to kyw's initial reaction Gonzalez. Interfering in that match. My I rewound it I RE-WATCH. I'm like okay. They're KYW's reaction says I didn't know this is going to happen. And there's no incentive for her to deny I mean she would gloat if if she was behind it and instead she acted kind of nervous. Like what's going on here okay. I guess she helped me. I'm not sure. Why do you think that was? Am I reading that right and do you think it was adequately followed up on Wednesday? I think you're really right and I think it was but I think they needed to have a little bit. And that's with the maybe not naivety but the relative newness of Rachel Gonzales. She said that they didn't have an agreement and that she went out there because she was tired of seeing other women jumped to the front of the line. Like teak. It's basically she posited. A teagan betrayed Dakota and she just couldn't stand that betrayal and she wanted to stand up for another woman. She saw being put an unfair position. And that's when they started that almost iconic like we. Well I like you because you like me. I love back. She back more than anyone had my back right. Yeah as lies A. He'll because we know that team tick was her a Deacon Knox and she betrayed teagan because a well to be honest with the more I talk about it the more it actually fits in her minds. They he'll teagan betrayed her when she didn't stand up and let her be in the wargames group and she had to be. The last reindeer added substitute so so the story is Dakota. Didn't know guns also GonNa come to her aid but she now sees Gonzalez did. She stood up for her. She had her reasons. They share something in common and now they're happily allied. Okay I can I can. I can accept like I said it's still digesting in trying to see if the dots connected but I think I it seems like they do and I actually when I think about what they said in the I guess. Just some underlining of having the interviewer Kathy Kelly ask Dakota. You seem surprised on Sunday. What's the nature of this alliance? Did ask the question that I was asking myself. When I watched it and I think most viewers probably were too. Which is. Why did she do this? And what is your reaction? And I'm not quite sure. The question set set up what they said next as well as it could've now goes back to their questioning style in needs more of a like. I like the A W software back and forth a conversation instead of. Here's my setup. Question let me. Please be fern as you answer the question. Yes or or meekly walkaway. When you ain't Mike and say go away so let let's introduce an email here regarding. Shane obey going back to what they did with her Andrew Gi said I think some of your criticism of the Shane abiding angle is a little overblown. Was the syrupy blood over the top. Yes does becky stealing? An ambulance defy logic. Yes most more defies. Logic is still having it to drive back now. We're and a half later. That's where the logic is defined with a feud have worked just as well if not better without the sports entertainment. Obviously yes as a one time thing though. I think the biting works for me because for better for worse it puts extra emphasis on the match. This was China's first introduction to rob. She was around plenty in the survivor series. Built in one the triple threat match and she also showed up in the rumble. We seen enough and xt call ups at this point to know how it works without explicitly saying. Shayna is a member of the raw roster and is allowed to participate in the elimination chamber. And it's not the ideal storyline logic. There's a historic precedent. That management doesn't seem to intervene in fine roster remember for crossing a line after all. This is a company that's seemingly did nothing to murder. Roman reigns all summer in Ordinance. Now viciously assaulted two met. I understand your criticisms of the single and I certainly don't think that's the most ideal the ideal way to build a match but I think they'll be plenty of time between show winning the Chamber and Wrestlemainia for her to deliver a competitive sports. Like Promo love. The show just wanted to provide an alternative perspective so andrew to this. I will say I would enter this into a class on. Teaching people were begging. The question is because begging questions mean prompting. The question people misuse phrase all the time. Begging the question means that you try to prove something by just restating the question or restating the criticism so by you saying. Wwe has done this before and this is another example of doing it. Precedent has been set. Therefore it's not worthy of criticism or the criticism isn't isn't as valid. You've just made my point more. D- doing something wrong over and over doesn't mean well look. I got away with it last time and so therefore I should get away with this time. I just disagree with that. I think when you bite the flesh off of somebody's neck and they bleed to the point that frantically medics are trying to get them to the hospital to make the case. Well look what happened with with attempted murder before and what did edge so it's okay. No the whole point is none of. That's okay so by entering that in evidence you're actually backing up my point that. Wwe needs to do. If they're GONNA do it make it. Count for what the intent of it would be in. The intent is to get a lot of heat on Shayna and when it's business as usual a week later and China's entered in the elimination chamber and rewarded with a chance at wrestlemainia after doing something like that. It just extinguishes. The he'll eat from biting the flesh back last week before I just. I don't see that as a defense at all and also saying that. She hung around in November during the interim brand survivor series billed as an annex t member invading from another brand and then in a royal rumble which includes wrestlers who are representing. Their brand doesn't undo at all the idea that she's that raw management so to speak is rewarding her for biting the Flash Becky Lynch when she wasn't a raw roster member in their rewarding her by giving her a raw match and a chance to at the raw women's title. I I mean I just think you underline all the things that I see wrong with it and all you did to defended is to say that. They're pretty sloppy with stuff. Typically so therefore we have to them not criticize them for the sloppiness anymore. I just don't see it so I'm I'm standing my ground reachable you. I think this is all solved by having Shane. Win The royal rumble and Charlottesville showing up ten X T. That was the logic gap that they had. That's that made all of this work. It was the final tumbler and the lock. That would have made it an excuse for why. Shane is doing what she's doing and still rewarded with the title match Charlotte Being in Charlotte Being Charlotte flare could have been indignant and said you know what I don't need the royal rumble? I'M GONNA face you at a wrestlemainia match for the next title. Because I think I'm better than you and that title is mine and I'm GonNa prove that I'm better than both of these other brands. You know Blah Blah Blah and so that would have been fine but instead yeah do your point edge and Orton is set up to be a situation where these two men who who probably add you know. Worst case scenario based on the prior history that you mentioned that Andrew brought up we might have a quote unquote unsanctioned match or hold harmless or whatever. They come up with where. We're not GonNa let this happen. But they've agreed that they're not gonNA sue US if they get hurt so they're going to do what they're gonNa do with this one. It's gone a step further where you're giving a person a title shot because of because blood. What does that mean for the rest of the raw women's roster that they can't do anything to earn a title shot between now and Wrestlemainia. Yeah I I I like the idea of of having Shane and win the rumble and then having Charlotte with her. What's the what is the Can come up with a storyline reason for Charlotte showing up at Annex T and having the right to even be on that brandon challenge for the title without that leading to Bianco Bel Air or others going. Wait a second you know. She's not from here. What did she do to earn the shot that we wanted to get a takeover? Why does I could see that being an issue? I mean I don't think it's insurmountable and I'm willing to stipulate to it for a greater good but is there a way? Is there something in your in your scheme there? That would kinda fill that gap. Yeah I think it would be the fact that the one thing that that full sail moved from where they were for. Fcw But the one thing. I always liked about the days FCW. They had the posters both of the wrestlers that are trained but then the folks who graduated. That would've been my thing like as you're sitting through like you know of for instance like undisputed air anytime there in a promo magically. Their entire office area is plastered with undisputed Arab pictures photos. Posted like they bring their own official flag and Bandanna I feel like they have an undisputed like ringtone. They set that office phone line to it. Just is their thing. I think if you had her run into someone like a real ripley is like you see this here and she points to maybe one of the things in the PC where they still have some of their like. I was one of the longest reigning champions here. And that's the reason I'm coming at you because I've done it and I've done it better than you and I think I can do it better than you and I don't need the title but I just need to embarrass you and that would be something. I think that would have some of the other lady. Spank OFF AGAIN. Going back to football. It's pulling out the ring and say you know in my head. When I was a kid it was always when they had that monkey off your back video. They showed Steve Young when he could finally send there and go up to Joe Montana saying I got one too now. I don't have to worry about you taking the steering wheel and saying well you know. You Know Steve. I think third down. You should have made this throws like well. Joe made this well. I got three rings I am. I know what I'm talking about here in that that sort of thing that Charlotte can do that. Those other women would have to take a step back all. We're about to go to another commercial break. Why are you listening to commercial breaks? Why deal with these interruptions when you can become a VIP member support the weight? Keller pro wrestling podcasts. Tiller progressing the Peterlee Torch daily casts in the entire team and everything that we do and get a ton of return for your membership by becoming a VIP member go to PW Torch v Info Dot Com for full details. 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Xt Women's champion. And then ideally she wins the rumble and she and Becky just stare each other down and we don't need a lot of other stuff. That's the beginning. You can have other stuff to bridge you to fill TV time between now mania but the starting point should be. This is a moment. This is you know Steve Austin Goldberg. Going face to face during each of their peaks like this is a match. That people wanted a needed to see happen. And we're giving it to you because the back story is enough. And that's where would andrews says carries weight which is fans. Were familiar with Shane. She carried herself credibly and was framed as a big deal when people who don't watch do watch the rumble and raw. Have seen her. So I have faith in Shayna caring herself like she's a big deal and becky standing her ground and treating Shayna as again. The whole story line was set up. Becky had to conquer Oscar. That was the last box to check. And now someone from the outside comes in and you can imagine becky come the Promo Code Champion. I know a lot of people have been talking about China and rightfully so this is a man. I'm glad Shayna one WRESTLEMAINIA. This is the best opponent that I can have to make my match bigger than last year's match. Shane is proven herself. More than any other opponent ever had against a great array of wrestlers. And frankly it's gone to her head and a for me to tell myself after so many I'm the best I need to be changed. And I got extra incentive casinos unbearable. I mean like there. It doesn't we don't need a biting angle but then gets undersold a week later and a nonsense storyline about her being put in the chamber. It feels like they booked backwards a bad story line so that they could have Shane in the elimination chamber. And that's part of the problem with having big matches on certain dates in the calendar. Is you end up looking backwards from them. In a way that takes you off course from what would have made the most sense. So part of my objection also in a larger sense. It's just becky and chain of wrote itself. If you just took their backstory in the credibility of their championship brains and the storyline. Becky's been telling with Oscar in just feed it right into baiser. Yeah or they could have cheated cheated but if they are if you think you're you know this is what you want to end up. Forget about the rumble. If you feel like that's too big a stage. They could ahead. Chena win the money in the bank. When they were doing their brains prince things around survivor series and then going back further the money in the bank and they could what they do a really good job at times with have A. He'll you forget that the he'll has it and for her being an annex t she got to play. I don't need I'm Gina Sutan. This is a nice thing to have and have marina or gentlemen hold it for and then oh by the way. I'm cashing this in now. And she could have done that after Elimination Chamber and said. You know what I could do I. Could you know choker route? Put it down. I do this to you here but I want to do it to you in Tampa Yup Real quick anything about Bailey. Excite you for Wrestlemainia. Do you see anything in the cart. No sadly I I like I like I like La Bailey. I liked the fact that she is just tears again. She's that female counterpart to set where she's going. Raise their hand and ask to speak the manager before you've even made an order and just go through. She's she's I want this this this and this way it looked at me funny and I just really appreciate if my tea is at sixty nine degrees. If it's at sixty eight I'M GONNA send it back. She just the worst when it comes to those things and a coward in the ring even though she could still wrestle quite well. I just feel like at this point. She's a pre show wrestler. Not By choice but by the fact that again we just went down that list of seven matches. She'll be now the eighth or ninth match and I don't know maybe it's You put her up against a Naomi and I only wins in Florida again. That you know it could Goodwill etc and. She's done really well for herself. Getting mainstream coverage have an essence magazine highlight the fact that you know black women. Women of all races are really were really excited by all means debut in the general public because they were like who is this woman that looks so powerful and dynamic. Great but Becky Becky Bailey. On her own has kind of especially without Sasha has kind of been a little bit in a holding pattern all right Another email here about the women's division and that I wanNA talk sixteen w Jason nor says a long time listener. I go back to the Mitchell audio show in the pre podcast era. Wow thank you jason question for the show for you and rich who annex t could. Charlotte feud with if she wins the belt at Mania. I see I feel bad. I shouldn't say I feel bad. I'm in control of not doing it or doing it and I chose to do it. Which is previewing wrestlemainia. Pretty early here as it seems like the lineups taking shape but I felt like wow. We're a little ahead of ourselves but now we're talking about what happens after so I think you just what happens if she went about that mania. No it's a good question He says I assume she would be. He'll but Charlotte vs Shirai would be amazing for a chance to finally give cancer own. Actual storyline as the plucky underdog. What do you think also? Please thank rich on air for his support for women. Love Wrestling The nonprofit book looking forward to more of his interviews with the team. Thanks Jason Women Love Wrestling Dot net. Check it out Rich your thoughts on Charlotte Post think she'll win. Do you think she oughta win. Is a good for the? Nasd brand half her. They're giving perhaps a A RUB and a boost to some of the women she faces or is it. Does it risk just kind of plowing? Through some of the women who don't look like they are or aren't quite ready characterized and prestige wise to be competitive with her. It could actually stop their growth. That has been so successful for being kind of a a grooming ground a proving ground for the next wave of of top women to go to Ron back. I'm of two minds to be completely honest and for me the first off the top my head like you said going that far out get a little weird but the first thing that stood out to me was if she did win she can have a great match with Bianca. She could have a great match with. Eeo and candice. Jason mentioned and I also think she would be a great conduit as being on raw when she can and been being on annex t as the person that says I am the barrier to entry now to raw and smackdown. You go through me or you. Don't go and that would make for really enticing. But that's a face story so I don't know if that's what they should do. I think if they have rea- retain that makes more sense and then when rea- finally Mussa raw smackdown that's a blemish on the ledger. That Charlotte wants to make good. We're about to go to another commercial break. Why are you listening to commercial breaks white deal with these interruptions when you can become a VIP member support the weight? Keller pro wrestling podcasts. Wait Tiller progressing. Post shows the Torch daily casts in the entire team and everything that we do and get a ton of return for your membership by becoming a VIP member. Go TO P. W Torch V. I. P. Info Dot Com for full details. Thirty plus years of Archives of podcasts. Retro Radio Shows Over Sixteen hundred back issues of the Pro Wrestling Torch weekly newsletter fascinating march through our coverage of wrestling history and so much more including ad free versions of the week. Podcast WE POST SHOWS? Ncw Torch daily casts and several exclusive VIP podcast just about every day dozens of VIP exclusive. 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I think Adam's going to be in a position where I thought he'd leave but before he wanted. North American title would be that next Guy But I think maybe Adams going to have to deal with Most likely one of the browser weights. I'm assuming Matt Riddle. And because the way that the undisputed era by way of fishing Riley look coming down to like poor Kylo Riley. He goes comes down to the ring every time he wants to do. The Air Guitar realizes they don't have the belts any more than just the saddest music as he. Just an fish. Sorry can't and he just like stocks down the ring and so I think they'll get is among the best I mean in terms body language facial expression fitting his character. It's not the same. I mean it's sort of the same thing but there's tweaks in twist circumstances he's a blast him and Samovar are two of the best people when anything else going on to just be like again i. I'm thirty eight but I didn't mind television. Knowledge like an eighty year old. If he's like one of those folks. Three's company where you're looking at all the mayhem and you look from. Mr Roper mischief early to see how they're reacting more than the mayhem and it's those guys are always especially kyle when they're in the undisputed era locker room because he's always adjusting one of the flags or these trying to make sure something looks good in the like. I I got. I put this up twenty minutes ago but I gotTa make sure it looks great and so yes. I think a title wise. It's it's time for cold. Subways Don I I figure Riddle kind of needs that shot. I would love to see my dude The the Done get a shot but I feel like British strong style. Writ large has been Kinda not used as much as they could have been so I expect pete to kind of like hang a certain level But other than that. I can't think of anyone. What about Dream Dream beat strong last night undisputed error? Yeah I mean to me that seems like more the direction they're heading than Radel and done. They seem all in on them as the the buddy cop movie gimmick. It doesn't it doesn't seem like they're gonNA break them up anytime soon. They seem to be investing more and more. We talk about riddle and done in a minute. It's kind of an act but velveteen dream. I mean that's kind of where I'm leaning right now. Well for me when I look at velveteen dream myself in Cam Been kind of talking about this on twitter with different people throughout the last few weeks but it goes back to what you say about. Seth rollins and writ large what? Wwe does which is disappointing. The Annex T is GONNA slip in there on. What PLANET IS THE FACE? The dude that says you seem effeminate because you didn't take your spouse's name and then have pictures of the kids say. I'M GONNA be the Stepdad. They ever were as like these are some like every single person. I follow on twitter and usually with wrestling twitter Especially folks can like you know. There's always going to be the contrary and for the sake of being a contrarian but everyone's like nope this due to serve. Get the crap beat out of him on site this is. This is a bridge too far. If they had the temerity you do all this crap you talk all this garbage and then you have the temerity tell the studio. How about you boys in the back and fight me like a man? I think no no man you earn the chicken. They have gotten the card and I know a lot of people. That's the one that people like is that fair during but listen. I don't care what month it is. There is no month that allows you to grab a man's family and put it on. Main Street is something you would like to acquire and it also didn't help it much like Rhonda some four Horse Women. Outside of outside of Shayna aren't the best with twitter because Marinas response when he's like. I'm going to take your old ladies like what you call. It is a great. No Ma'am you're missing. Just help him like just that. That whole thing was a mess so I could see what you're saying. I think that would be good but I'm hoping between now and An xt slice mania weekend. He he was a little sloppy last night and I just want him to be in a position where because he's so young he has so much time but at the same time I realized that they they wanNA kinda maximizes minutes. Jr would say. And I I don't want it to be a situation where he's a match with a guy like Adam Cole who this is my concern now. I'll throw this out to you on shadow. Adam has Kenny Omega disease where he needs a thirty five minute match as a singles competitor to tell a story and with Shawn Michaels there. That is like the soccer mom. That's going to encourage that in a way that you really don't need right now. Putting velveteen treatment. That sort of match is not good because he is a synthesizer he's not really much of a creator in terms of stuff in the ring. And so that's GonNa make his holes more apparent than make both of them look good. Yeah I I agree. I don't think that last night. I touted this match on my podcast this week in talking about Roderick strong that he just seems to have a really good match with everybody and I think he's one of the. I wrote this in the news this week. He's one of the underrated. More underrated less appreciated indie darlings of that kind of generation of from who went through kind of the glory years yet. He just always delivers. And then you have elvis dream coming back from an injury. He's delivered more often than not in big matches and the question is does. Does he become Macho Man? Randy savage does he end up being a transformative iconic. You see the I mean his logos. Great for the ring entrance the the colors in the art it all is just ripe to become a cultural thing. Where the T shirt? Just around thirty years where people even beyond his career Our our look enough. It's all in place like he's got that part on the verge of of seeming could take hold or is he dalton castle to our wage. Some sort of can visit the main event. But you really can't build around him because they're just ends up being certain limitations to the character in the entering work in the promos and the character just seems more more gimmicky than Macho Man. Which is just you know iconic in in larger than life and. I don't think last night was a step forward for him and I haven't seen anybody look at last night's match with strong as anything but under under the hopes and expectations and I think it's so well I'm not while I'm saying it seems like storyline wise last night in case maybe they're gonNA do dream Cole. I'm with you. I think the storyline for him has come across as an immature guy. Doing desperate things to get the spotlight that are just sort of inappropriate or not admirable an excuse other than he's young and doesn't know any better and that's hardly. WanNa push baby face against your top heel champion unless the goal is a double turn but I from the direction than the story. They're telling it seems like that closer to happening to me. That then Matt Riddle or for that matter. Keith Lee and I don't you know Keith. League on goal they choose to go that direction. I'm for it. I think they can make it work but it doesn't seem like that's where they're headed either and now you've got Jakovic hinting. Maybe being a little helix last night in his reaction to the loss extending that feud a little bit more. I people are GonNA welcome that few but I also want evidence that they can successfully few against others so anyway. That's a lot out there. Rich anything you want to respond to. Yes sure I. I think you're right I one to I wanted to. I know I got a tweet from someone who had a question that kind of ties in some of this other stuff In terms of velveteen they didn't do the long which again very surprising for the next. They didn't bring up the fact that prices injury strong had been the one doing things that were seen as petty am necessarily like burning the couch chasing off velveteen ladies in. May US just being a complete scumbag in that regard and I can see it as a symmetrical warfare. But when you just posited as this do came back and this is where he went with it. That doesn't help it. You need the support in in the announcers video packages and the promos. You need to make sure the baby faces making this case or other making it for him that his tactics can be justified based on the totality of the long term story arc. And when you think about it as a face again going back to my comment with this whole situation when undisputed heir beat them down at the end there was a justification for no one to come out because you kind of dessert. 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So the most well informed and most entertained pro wrestling fans with the best podcast lineup anywhere. Go VIP and get these shows with the ADS and plucks removed also a huge bonus pw torch VIP INFO DOT COM. I'm cody feel about the continuation of lead with Vick. I mean do you interpret the way he acted last night as leaning towards I think so and I like them continuing it. Because those two are just too big beings as travis mentioned our third member of the host and progenitor of all this stuff with myself encamping near the torch When you have those guys doing what they do it makes Umberto Career Look East boring and so those two together bring out the worst in each other so I'm looking forward to the match. I'm also scared what they're gonNA do. Yes that is a fair a fair fear to have I mean. Obviously we'll be watching is is what's kovocs ceiling and should it be as a he'll at least in this chapter of his career. I think so because I think he is that next evolution of where Matt was when he was impact. A Post Hogen giving him as jacket or whatever Matt Morgan and I think he's that type of do big guy. Lean Guy Muscular guy that can do all. These crazy moves in the feast. Your eyes part. That's great him and Lee had great chemistry over the years neither penance in showing that now in annex t I think he could be an annex t champion at some point I think he could be in the wwe he could be another one of those big guy foils like he wasn't evolved from him. In sch- McIntyre Galloway at the time I guess kind of like we're ships passing in the night so there there are options form but I also think them playing into his worst The wrestling side you know. They mentioned the fact that event he searches on twitter which had been something that was well known about digest when he was in the dependence. They why do you bring that on? Tv Why tied the weaknesses. We don't need to know about that. Okay so Adam Cole. In the role that he's in and we mentioned some potential challenges for him. I saw Jakovic last night. Do his thing. And I'm thinking Adam Cole is a baby face against dipoto because he'll seems like a natural place to end up with some time later this year and it got me thinking you know Adam Cole. As a undersized underdog highly respected earned. Everyone's reverence for what he does in the ring. And he's that cool he's got a cool factor to them. That fans WANNA cheer. Do they need to kind of set? A Course for coal one way or the other with or without the undisputed era partners going baby face and do they. Should they start setting up? He'll opponents and not just di- Jakovic but Kim velveteen dream based on going too far showing the maturity be actually parlayed into a he'll in this storyline before he ends up facing Adam. Cole is that a better way to go. When you look at the lay of the land coal is a baby face against annex tease heels fin. Baylor Johnny Gargano does it. Does it start to make more sense to try to find a way to get him in. What might be a more natural fit for him in the annex environment with the type of fans that they attract. Yeah especially because Wednesdays are now this super work rates Super High intensity show having those the all four I'd say having all four of them as faces would help in terms of the air in terms of the feuding. Yes I think they would. They should put velveteen if that was the play. In the morning. He'll category Digest Jakovic in the same category again. Making sure that someone has a chat. Because if you're going to do this again so help me. If he's got ripped Baker on his pants that that might be a bridge too far or maybe maybe allude to it have like a dentist jacket or somebody but if you have an airbrush bit Brit Baker on your pants like that's going to be lot and that's one of those things were inex- t you know have has done a really good job allowing the rest of this kind of show personality more than might have been outlawed in main roster woman quote but there's certain times where you gotta Kinda Kinda pull back a little bit and I think to answer your question. Those two would be great candidates for heels as challenges to him and I. I also think at some point the archer of infamy. I don't know why they gave him that name. It fits I guess maybe not Having him reenter that big man You know super heavyweight like they used to do in progress with the the atlas title having him as one of those big guys that can challenge Cole and make him that Shawn Michaels that Shawn Michaels thinks he can be Keep I think that'd be really good? Matt Riddle imagined him as a possible opponent. What what do you think of the way? That he's portraying himself. You know joking around about their Their Dusty Rhodes trophy failing wellness test. Because you party too hard. Because that's how they do things around here in the crowd laughing along with him is and then just kind of playing off is kind of the the the goof in the the dope relative to done. Who's barely tolerating him for professional convenience but maybe harbors in appreciation for riddle being looser and having fun and being happy and maybe doesn't want to show it or admit it but he sort of envious of somebody who can go through life that blissfully happy. There's a fun dynamic between them is it. It's it's entertaining the Tongue Twister Fish. Thing probably didn't work To the way that they wanted and was probably foreseeable but in general is embracing the eccentricities of riddle and really amplifying them in this way serving him as a as a potential mate event. Act Or is this dumbing him down a little bit to something less than what is potential would be if they weren't amplifying embracing this aspect of him so much. I I think for him in any other wrestler. I would say yes. This is dumbing down but I think it's riddle the one thing I've always taken away from him Even when he was in. Ufc was because that was when you watch the ultimate fighter. I don't know if you did but for anyone if you do watch the ultimate fighter when he was on there that was him there too and the biggest appeal for was he was goof because he could knock you this out when he got you in the ring and Matab they have to keep that part. It can't just be goofy dudes doing things with with Matt with Matt and Pete because that's not going to help him. I like you mentioned with the Buddy cop this is more lethal weapon and less I'm trying to think of the other guys. Where was Marky mark and Will Ferrell? Because he is the loose cannon but he's also a deadly loose cannon whereas the serious done is just kind of trying to keep him listen. I can't control your category five hurricane but let's just pointed in their direction and kind of loosen up time every now and again as we saw when they snuck entre just playing which I was like all the people that you could sneak on it. He would let you fly on the plane. There's no more if it was. Vince is private plane. That would have been more believable to me like. He's grumbling and saying steak randomly like just random words like like Christian on their show. Where you you have this believability. Oh this guy is way too serious for these goof-balls but they're going to kind of tiptoe around him but yet they have to find that medium because we have seen and you could speak to this When he gets if he gets to raw smackdown most of that's GonNa get scrubbed away and whatever's left is better. Be something that they can use in something that they want appreciate because otherwise It's GonNa Stink for him from a career standpoint. Yeah Yep how about Finn Ballard? They hype next week. He he makes the statement I like when they make a big deal out of a big name wrestler making a statement about future about what his intentions are is is he any. I mean I don't think he's a baby face or twitter I think he's a he'll now But he's a big name. Where does he fit in in? Xt going into a wrestlemania weekend and takeover Tampa. If he's a he'll and Cole is a face he's another one. I would put on that list of potential challenges for sure and he the thing I love most about this version of him especially having the gumption to it again this they get that creativity again and you see the juices flowing to take the prince devitt character. Mary what he did in. Wwe and create hybrid. That is to me a perfect representation of him as much as you can in. That company is a masterpiece. He's what riddle needs to get to but riddle is gonNA have to survive that same. Hell that Ballard had to go through and figure out what to it again. My brain goes weird places. I think of like when I was a kid. I loved all the stories like the mythology going through the trials with Hercules Not everyone makes it through the trials. You look at Deo Tommy. G Bet thing just burnt him to a crisp and he had to go back to Japan and he took what he learned and is now in new Japan. Doing what would it but he couldn't do it in. Wwe Ballard learned from that God. Awful situation that he was in came down or came to. I guess triple h listening to didn't go down a win to annex t and instead of turning into the bitter betty that a to neo was when she was there and she was like well I was there and they were mean to Mesa. I'm going to be mean to you. Got He's just a full on scumbag that says I'm the Prince and I love putting a little Exxon it so that legally like you know what it is ever. If you don't know what it is you just think it's cool so it's like you know the one issue. I know a lot of folks yourself included habit eight. W you have these inside references. But you'd never reference them so you don't know what it is if you're an outsider for that one if you don't know what. Prince Debit or who prince devitt is you don't need to. He tells you enough during the course of his matches and then the way he completely disrespected Johnny Gargano. To the point he had to turn heel in order to get his respect back in the back. Because I've never seen a man ten another man like that and then just tell him why he stinks. After the fact I was just flabbergasted I I was standing up at cheered when I saw the end of that match. So what they're doing with Ballard. I love it. I I agree I think valor is a gateway to Adam Cole. Turning baby face and there that might be the best path to get coal there and Ballard can be balanced Charlotte are centerpiece acts on exte- going into and coming out of WRESTLEMAINIA. That's that's up positioning exte- T on USA NETWORK TAB. Two big stars who can be utilized even though express some potential trepidation. People would have charlotte sort of overshadowing t taking the oxygen out of the room like maybe triple h did at times in his career in terms of lighting other wrestlers. Just have the spotlight shines. Grow intimated at roles and I think that should be a concern with Charlotte. But I don't think it's destiny and if you have Charlotte as a centerpiece in Ballard as a centerpiece next year round those two on commercials on Ron smackdown. And they're in good storylines and they're utilized to elevate and give her up to other wrestlers. I think it could be so it's got to be just hardcore. He'll and valor hardcore villainous. He'll who just embraces relishes that role I think in a good position and I think it can be beneficial to everybody else on that roster I mean Cole against die. Jakovic works with him. As A. he'll I think you can get him to that stage. And then you have Colin Keithly co-top baby faces but as triple h talked about in his conference call when asked they might not be long term planning for lead to be around there? And if that's the case you know you could do a Leib. Aller feud before League is called up. But maybe he gets called up right after WRESTLEMAINIA. And you don't have time to tell that story ARC. That's where you got to focus on. Who's going to be a centerpiece baby face? If with the big moments is triple h said that Lee had on the main roster if that's suggestive of him being fast tracked and when you look at the folks that they have in the pipe as far as people they can Introduce reintroduce because you look at the roster they have so many folks now on the PC that if you need to hotshot Lee up in move some other folks up so many more people that can come up especially with a ballard. You don't need to make Ballard Club. You don't make bullet club derivative but he could use someone that like. Jericho has Samovar that. A young guy where he is being the mastermind. He'll and he has someone that's learning the ways of the four so to speak and that would be a bad thing but not now maybe like six months from now seven months. Maybe a year but for now Ballard by himself just being this force nature in this evil just abs is evil man with like eight thousand jobs at that worked for him right now wrestling fans. 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Show and the amazing big iconic spot with cody leaping off the top of the cage to beat wardlow and then standing on top of the cage to celebrate giving a post post-match speech for fans in the building. Great moment my only reservation is I just I to me. That should be safe for a pay per view match conquering a true top opponent. Not some guy who was thrown up as a hurdle you to jump or pin to knock over to get to the top heel but connick moment cody is in no way to get your thoughts on this rich but we talk every week. I don't want I don't WanNa talk myself into my own bubble on anything and that's why I have a wide variety of goals voices that I really value and also we talked onsite. Correspondents on just about every poll show to get their perspective on things. They're fans of different ages and different things that interest them last night around. Cy correspondent wasn't enamored with ten Anka's keenum in person tyler. Age a little stunned by that. It's good to hear from people and get an idea not only of what they think but also other people in the audience thing that they observed for us when they report on our show cody continues to be the guy who I'd say four to five times gets the best reaction not one of the best not tied for the best but the best reaction among eighty w live crowds. Let's talk about cody for a minute. And the position that he's in a rich talk about the conference. Call that you were part of that. He held for the media on Tuesday and his strengths and weaknesses in that role. And I know it surprises people. I hear from some veterans from a different generation. Who can't believe cody as a top star and think that he isn't atop start. Just give give your kind of top points on on cody coming out of Tuesday and Wednesday this week. Sure I think I'll start with Wednesday and they'll move back to Tuesday because Wednesday amazed me because I've seen wardlow live. I've seen them here in. Pittsburgh and I mean this is no offense which is usually a preface to say something it's offensive. He seemed to be every big man. Pittsburgh Indy Wrestler where he was like pretty good shape slam slam flick slam and that was it and maybe some unintelligible gibberish. About how he's going to kick someone's butt next week at W X Power Plant. Whatever him in that match had so much poise like the fact he was in the spot to catch. Cody to me was the thing. That was the apex of that match. Because that was a position where you have one of the Senior Vice President of the company not looking back in throwing himself at you and it's all you man. There isn't a crowd of people like it was during the tag which was a little silly or a situation where you could have cuts or a crash. Board like chain would have which which isn't a knock on chain. I don't like concussions myself. But that was that was a lot for me to see that man wrestled like that and I'm not saying he was like five star like main event but I think that goes to show in his ties. Back to cody on the very first show. He went out there and had a really good match with the restaurant. Not Too many people knew a Sammy and gave him a great showing. He's done that with Darby. Allen Cody has done it I don't know I know you talked to symbol dressers. And they don't like it. I talked to some of the independent wrestlers in there. Just like all of his dude like getting the bag and not dropping it In terms of him in a w I mentioned this earlier when talked about. Wwe He is everything triple ages and he doesn't boot. No-one thinks about it that way. He's the guy who's doing the press conferences guy. That's doing whole the defaced forward stuff for the company. He's ising right. He is so self-aggrandizing. No Wade he made his. I don't know okay this. This was the moment that sold me. On Cody Rhodes in that role. It was last night and it was the toy commercial because that was something that looked like maybe they do it in a take. Maybe two best not not as an insult but just you know it looked like you can kind of get across all. Hey I have a dull. That's always a action figure. Sorry for those of you who just got really mad The way cody sold. Do you have one from be out by. Have one like anyone else that would have been so condescending and it would have just old your eyes into the point you passed out but it was like you know if your wife has one but and the guys rewritten his hoodie jacket. The like pull out yours like come on. And then as soon as he sees it he looks down and he sees the sledge. All the Internet's going to have fun with this is like you told. Bake it with a sledgehammer like these are things that you're not a person that detail is. GonNa go by unnoticed. And you're just oh you know. They gave me blue hair instead of Blonde. Like is not going to be platinum number. Six seven six six six. I will send you five copies of how this looks like. Cody's able to do those things in a way that triple h when he does them. It kinda comes off. He has okay. I apologize for those who haven't heard me here before but I kind of go off on tangents. And that's the way way shoved onto the deep dive so I can do that for an hour and not freak people out but I'm just thinking like a million things at once now cody. He has two versions of his entrance. It gets elevated and they have a set built entirely for him to walk out of the Chandelier with the O. Music as if he's been presented like he's the David Painting and then it kicks onto his downstate theme which is an eternal s you to the McMahon's for thinking that there's less than one. There's only one royal wrestling family like when you listen to the words and that was like one of the first twenty deep dives. I did bring down wrestling when you breakdown. Cody's the talking about how like they took my name and now I'm taking everything else back like this dude is a walking talking like a lot of folks on twitter say aws a vanity promotion. Which I ask what is any wrestling promotion promotion but he would be public enemy number one. The son of Dusty Rhodes should be public enemy number one. And he isn't people love him when they see them. I have a friend Daniel Palmer. He went there live in Atlanta. He is not the biggest eight W. Fan but he'd look there and he's like she sent me a text. That was awesome. He was awesome. I almost cried during the Promo because this guy's just like he. He talked about being two blocks away when I fell in love at wrestling and going down all the things he he gets it and he gets it in a way that I don't think few people can and succeed at in this business in terms of that role. And so I'm I'm amazed by and then you go back to Tuesday and with his press conferences again. The one thing I would say is he. Has This flare from a dramatic? That can get him in trouble because he spent a good bit of it when One of the other callers had called the follow up on my question at present it to Tony on about representation in wrestling but russ was color in the single scene particularly black men of color and the sales team and he was like funny. I'm looking on Youtube and scout this guy named Chris Bay as a crispy picture crispy six months ago. Why don't you need a scout him on Youtube like I I? I was flabbergasted but then you know two hours later impacts announcing they signed Chris Bay so that's not held against like that would be one of the first things triple age was on that conference call and saying you know. I really liked this guy. Prints Bay than impact sign them. People would be running with bulletproof. I don't understand it. It's the best in worse than that worst. It's it's one of the best things I've observed in this year of a. W that Cody Really. Has this bulletproof nature that no other executive vice president hasn't he w the bucks don't have it. Certainly they had to leave Twitter Kenny doesn't have it and some of that's because other members of the wrestling media have put him on this pedestal. The now if you don't like him it's kind of like that band is like well. You don't get it you don't you don't you. Don't you just have to if you're not listening and you don't like it you don't get it? You're not really. It could be like no listen to. I love getting Omega. But if you don't like it it's taste it's all taste But yes that was my long answer to very short question on cody and I will shut up now. No no that's great stuff. I'm glad we got the crispy discussion. I WanNa Mention Darby Ellen here too. We've got an email from Zach in Texas. I think the pop rb gophers return on dynamite. Last night should be a lesson for wwe. He took a skateboarder the throat and was off. Tv for two or three weeks during that time. Awa video packages to keep him in the feud with Samovar on people's minds. Wwe On the other hand runs the same radio segment. Two weeks in a row video package would have been perfect for any this week. It would keep him in front of the mind without a pointless twenty minute segment little things like that. Wwe Just doesn't think about one quick note about good old jr too. I found his stat. Lander comments last night to be hilarious accepted that JR is the friendly curmudgeon. Lettuce come it's GONNA under my skin. Frankly appreciate his authenticity over. Wwe automations so is that kind of with me on Jr. I have some reservations but part of me just sort of enjoys the friend the corruption and the truth the truth teller of some silly things that Awa does but some of it should be behind the scenes. Use Your influence but Debbie Allen is a lot on this email to extrapolate but one is Darby Allen is a star and coming across as somebody that eight needs to every everything they do with them should be. Well thought out and he should be a priority in their booking discussions and he should never be used just to put somebody over. Who's got a pay per view match coming up. I think there's something there and I also think. Zack points out. Great the patients and pacing of Awa booking paid off you know we complement Regal Elevating The the the Knox To a A cage match and having a back story for it that that makes sense why he would move them to a cage match saying well. You think you have this person backing you. Well Dakota guess what you've got to face now and it's going be in a cage to keep people out and with. Darby he's out there selling the skateboard like you're getting a lot out of what you do. And that's what I'm an advocate for. Its like Max if you do something big maximize the benefits you get from it and I think that they did that with Darby. Yes and I think the Darby is again another one of those folks cody wrestle. Had that draw with look like he belonged. He's another wrestler that you know some folks when Awa I started talking about the size issue and how you know they hired all these smaller people and I looked at you know when you look at the United Kingdom before. Wwe Kinda jumped in progress. Wrestling was a very small guy promotion that then added bigger guys like alter and made the Atlas Co Division and kind of went from there. There's nothing wrong with that. Use what you got and Darby is proven. That is our on him when he was here. In Pittsburgh there were men and women of all ages with the half mask on and this is more attention. He's gotten granted it's a national state. So I get it. Then when he was in evolve when he was in evolve and I was there in New Orleans covering it for torch an I had to run screaming out of the way as he got chucked into the third row. That was a gross misuse of a man who could be a main event for a company in aws using them in the right way so Kudos to them for that. And I agree with you on that. And then as Jr. I I also had steven dickey. Send me a tweet on twitter when I asked a question about What we when we're talking right now. And he was the voice of or still. Is the voice of women wrestling About the commentary during Stat Stat Lander Shanna and It was a big turnoff of people. Some people liked it. What are your thoughts? And they w commentary I think. Jr is occurred much. He is going to be that that angry neighbor. That comes in and Kinda just doesn't like what the kids are doing. Sometimes but the one thing he doesn't like that some neighbors don't have grass on their lawns but they have the greener stuff you know the landscaping and the plants. Like what are days when I could smell the fumes from the lawnmower and everybody had green grass. There's a little bit of that quite a bit of that. Oh my gosh. Wait a great example downstairs in my garage right now. If jail was my neighbor I have a gas more and having electric Mo- I would be scared to death to pull out that electric mower. Komo my grass. But isn't Oh you got that electric thing. I guess you don't really WanNa cut grass today you just want to. I want you probably WanNa powerhouse. Some some some windmill instead of coal. And like the like the greatest Jenner. Because everything happens in. Here's the thing with Jr and I love. Jr is history and residents on parallel. I got nothing to fight with the man but his his will. He always would go back whenever he talks about recipe goes back to John. Wayne Cowboy all that stuff when you do that. You instantly put yourself in this box that you're going to be that old dude when you have folks who for better or worse can expand past what they found be cool can move into. What's in the Era Odyssey? You don't WanNa be the dad you know. I'm trying to avoid that being the the kids listening to you. Don't WanNa do that either. But you know. Be Comfortable in your skin but the one thing. He's he's hasn't done and I wanted to make a point that Stephen. It asked that question that I really didn't like that he did. Last night was the way he completely belittled excalibur by cutting them off. Yup Yup. He's been really good at begging all falling out and excalibur giving them that trust of. I'm going to provide you this information. So you have clarity as the what the rest is doing? Maybe what crazy hold? That was founded in nineteen dignity too that he altered to this new move but when he explained instead. I don't I don't want to hear any of that. It's like Oh my God man like so. Now you're telling the listener. They don't need to hear any explanation from excalibur. You wouldn't do that to Tony. So why are you doing that Scout? And that's or even task when Dennis showed up. Tasr said stuff and you know tasr is always a silly dude you know. In addition to being a guy who remembers days these W. Training Punch through a wall and you but people forget that they just see the happy lucky tests now. But he's not GONNA he's not. GonNa do these not going to say that the test it's like why would you do that to x calibre when he's the lifeline you have four kids quote unquote okay? How about another rose and her victory Promo firmly. He'll Is Is this a step in the right direction for the Awa Women's division especially after a talk about maybe velveteen dream Roderick strong having a disappointing performance last night Rio NYLA HAVING A in above expectation performance last week. Is there some momentum here? I think so and I think she's taken the ball and run with it and I think she's done a really good job of keeping important things important. One thing I will give credit to cody for the dramatic stuff I might have had like criticism. But when he was on that conference call and he mentioned the transphobia in some of the other comments that they talk about when they try to face forward diverse Promotion who still need to work on some of the hiring practices. You know if you can hire Austin gun you can find a couple of black guys I. I'm just going to be playing there but when it comes dollar rose I cannot underlined more how disag- in disagreement I am to Jim. Cornet inviting trans-phobia inviting that as a reason for her to be a he'll because that is something where pro wrestling has never been sophisticated with any social issue. Let alone putting it into a situation where you give your fans of right to be bigoted. I ever let Okla headway. I I agree I agree. I think I don't think they should have to be a baby face. Because she's trance but I don't think being trans should be the centerpiece of she's A. He'll she should be a heel for the reason that any woman with her size and demeanor relative to the rest of the roster is a heel and I think that she laid it out last night in a promo that just said I am the best. I should be the best. I proved on the best. I have an EGO. I want to be on the posters. I want to be the highest paid wrestler. And then doing it in a way where it's not. You're not cheering for her. Because she's bad ass but instead you WANNA see somebody stand up tour in succeed in doing so in NOCCO down. That's a he'll promo. I say it all the time reality doesn't have to dictate what you do on the air the storyline should dictate. What do you do on the air? Sometimes it will match reality sometimes. It won't sometimes the nicest person locker room will make the best. He'll on camera. Sometimes the best tag team in the world or to people who don't get along behind the scenes do what works best in the world you create. Nyla. Rose should not be someone who's he'll because you're trying to instigate anti lgbt chance that are can get dangerous literally. So I I like what they did and I hope they just let her be a female heel wrestler. Yup and I think looking at how she did it say that I'm the Queen Bee and here's the rules. Now that I'm I'm on top and that mission statement was exactly what I look for anytime. Someone becomes a champion. This is what I want is where no one's taking this from me. I love the fact that each state lender came out. Now staedtler again. I like Krista lender in beyond wrestling. I like her and the independence in fact this morning every tweeted her having a delightful comedic thing with a male wrestler where she's been trying to teach him to be less of a he'll in jerk in storyline so she's giving them books and she's trying to coach him into being a better human being despite being critical alien and that dynamic is fun because she taught us this whole. I don't talk thing doesn't To meet does it. Work doesn't help eight of you but what does work is having big swollen. Come out there because again. They figured out they signed her. They found out that folks like her appreciate her imagines a pretty good. You gotTa keep using her. You can't just let her down the vine same thing with like D- When you talk about the women's division flipping back to the men's singles division To your point with Nyla outside of the platitudes I haven't seen them do anything with sunny kiss. And if you're going to sign a sunny kiss and you're gonNA use Sunny. You can't just be a one off act if any the I really liked when they were here in Pittsburgh he had a really cool tactic with Dustin Rhodes and it wasn't something worked us in was kind of playing into his. He was dusted roads. He wasn't doing any gold stuff and they weren't trying to be salacious or anything like that to Kinda say. Oh yes. Sunday's kind of sexy Dune gove DESTIN'S GONNA turn his no they would just. I'm a little country. You're a little city we're GONNA make it wasn't like Beer Money Inc. I mean now I'm abandoning them as I again. I'm going to shut up and let you talk to car so that's good Harley. Remember the days. When women's wrestling matches were relegated to the mid card dumping ground and treated like glorified intermission. You mean the era when it was only men in the top spots in the main and fads getting the biggest matches every night. Yeah vaguely seriously. We might have a long way to go really have come a long way baby. And that's why we started grit and glitter comcast covering the best in the world of women's wrestling from the course women. Wwe To the goddesses of startup and everyone in between each Tuesday. Emily myself and our team of guest. Correspondence talk the best matches and the biggest news in women's wrestling plus interviews deep dies and discussions about everything for media representation to gear to women behind the scenes ropes. Just Search Pete Torch and the PODCAST APP of your choice to subscribe or listen on demand the entire. Pw Torch Davis schedule at POW torch. Daily Dot Com my final topic coming out of. Aws night did a whole show on it. So you guys can not check that out if you have yet over other red logo show but Jon Moxley and Chris Jericho. How do you grade the hype so far and do you think? Mosley should end up champion or should they keep the belt on. Jericho after revolution. I really like how they're doing this. It could have been a case of seeing the same thing on the on the show between the path. He has to take like code. He's taken to get to 'em J. F. but I didn't see it that way because one Jeff Cobb was awesome in that match. That was a better match in my opinion than that you won that. Seattle one match was a little rough personally so CNN finish and see Moxley in the role. He's in is great. I think he should win it. I think it might be time for that change. I think he'd be a good champion. The kind of lead either to a not necessarily a longer reign it maybe a shorter reign that then someone else say an J. F. Somehow tricks his way into getting the title. And then cody has the question of. I said I'd never would fight for this again but now this jerk has it how can I? I'm going to get him I think that might work. But if they don't The one reason I I'm not sure is because I don't know if you're aware of this. But not having scrap Romania so our torches own allen for L. Most likely it's going to be there and the main event of that show is a David Star versus Jon. Moxley and his he just put it on. Twitter is a beat one billionaires boy. Now I'm GonNa beat another one and so having the AWA champ lose in. Ot to David Star might not be the best play especially and he's also still in new Japan US champ. So I don't know how they're going to do this. Because now at this point I gotta get one of those scattered plots to figure out what Moxley student wear. Yes hopefully w can tell the story in their own universe and not be too worried about that if they're gonNA let Moxley also roam free The Strength Store Lander Prevail. But they should keep at least a peripheral I on it but I just don't think they should have their champion just like with Jericho. Your World Champs should lose any of that's true and so so and especially to lose two in again dilutes the David Starr whose then gonNA use that as a platform to talk about. How your sucks because you feel like? That's where the peripheral I turns into a direct stare. Yeah yeah he's just like I could go to Fulham or action. Go TO OT and make sure this doesn't go sideways. Let it go for a few on another topic. On last night's show rich the battle royale somebody called or email. That camera was said. Why are we having a ranking system? That they've they touted in press releases and sold. Tnt as a more sports like vibe and sold to fans wiser the default teddy long announced got like match slash multi person match slash battle royal to determine champions when they have such great tag team division. And this vaunted long-term planning why have the bucks earn a title shot while also simultaneously giving a chance of battle royals chance to Alex Reynolds and John Silver or pick your team? That hasn't really earned it Evanson and Halacha. What did you think of that criticism? And then also. What did you think of the match and the path that the bucks took to win one on the one hand? I see what they're saying on the other they have had in the DNA of this show and the promotion. That better royals are also another golden ticket so to speak that they can use Much like the rumble where you can have that. Same argument with WRESTLEMAINIA had been a year in advance. So I I've never been to thrown off by the now a gauntlet might throw me off. But the the battle royal the way they had it set up. I liked it because of the single elimination status. That they did it with. Typically you would have one member of the tech means both are gone so that story and having it was mad they got eliminated or nick got eliminated earlier and then it was just. I was mad against the world and I thought that was really good because it gave the drama of established tag teams verses a tag team wrestler. That's without his brother and I liked the fact that the bucks now are going to be at built into their long term as the email or caller mentioned the longterm storyline out the issues between the bucks and Kenny. Well really the bucks and hangman page but also the bucks had to wait to see who they would face because the number one contenders handed shot against the champions. If they didn't have that title match between the Luther Brothers I would have had more of an issue but I thought that was really good in how about the storyline. Now with the bucks going in against page and Omega in the idea of the story that they're telling page and the idea that pages kind of his own guy you know. He's he's the teammate that doesn't celebrate with his teammates. And Yeah actually had the bucks holding up Omega and page sort of it was a good visual the bucks trying to lift Omega page trying to lift Omega up there. We'll kind of pulling out. His arm. Omega looks a little dazed and confused but also irritated and in the end page kind of a quick trigger just jumps to ringside to grab a beer. Because he doesn't want to deal with the stress of feeling like an outsider or feeling like whatever the ongoing story and then he got Omega in the bucks kind of affirming that maybe they're closer friends than even Omega and page. It's an interesting story. Lyman interested in their personalities. How do you think? Aws is telling that story and the wrestlers are participating in that story. And where do you think it's headed? I think they're telling the story well and they're doing it without the shoulder content. So you don't have to watch being the elite which this week was a really petty thing because you got to see Apparently before the battle royal hangman page was going to all the other teams and giving them tips on how to beat the bucks. And so you don't need to see that. But if they added that to the television is like one of the prematch thing. I think that would go a lot longer way to explain to fans where people should be sitting because I think by the time a full gear. Oh my God. Revolution comes around next weekend. They'RE GONNA win. The bucks are GonNa win because there's a miscommunication between the two and it's going to be pages fall in that he's not gonNA understand. His partner isn't intentionally siding with the bucks he's just trying to be neutral and say we're all friends. Montijo out you know everyone. Has that one friend or coworker. Where if you go out to dinner. You mentioned the the teammate doesn't celebrate but when you go out to dinner and you need to split the check. They're going to tell you exactly how much they owe and they're going to leave no more no less whereas other people might be like. Let's just split this four ways. I had an appetizer. You had some drinks I you know I had a Fanta and a salad. That's what I'm paying for. And so that's where that's where it's gone and I think long term the bucks being champions. It'd be top of the division is really say to complete for whether they should've started but it's a better situation because now coming out of it you have a page opaque a few that you could start with. Where if pages the he'll Omega can start that climate face if as you mentioned and asked me earlier gift box. It doesn't get done against Jericho. You have Jericho Meghan. I could loom by by the time we get to all out or double or nothing. I'm where where do you see page in six months on the depth chart and what role and yeah valuable is he? And Are you worried? They're not GonNa get to the place that maybe you think he he could get to. If you're high I'm high. I thought it was one of the guys to watch a couple of years ago when he was in the opportunity for coming out party. I think the lear kind of ended on high note nate. W4 now this current role. I think is a better fit than where he was when he was in that title match and from me. I think that time he'll be probably the number three. He'll and I think they'll get them. They're the one prison. I think you'll have a problem knocking off as far as being a pretty good. He'll and comfortable in their own skin. This talk Yup Yup. I think they're I think they've done a nice job with mid card characters rising organically. I think like you said the bucks should take champs. I agree maybe in six months we look back and say. They should've started that way but they ended up in a good enough spot. And May I mean there? Is that large that talking point at the beginning which is the best people to be on top are all the guys all the VP's but if we do that it's going to be a bad look and so it was bumpy and it took a while but if they can figure if page ends up kind of by accident in a way getting over in a big way in an unexpected way taking a slightly different path but figure out a way to navigate. It and Kenny gets to show off like you did in that match last night in get himself over kind of organically and slowly through just having performances like that that do impress people and they can figure out what his personality is going to be and then the bucks ended up today. Having really good match is and you start to get to know who they are. Because I don't think the dynamite audience has much of an idea who met. Nick are relative to each other or just in general so there's still work to be done but if they can do all that but also have created the breathing space for Sammy. Guevara Darby Ellen and have done a lot with Kip. Saving but enough and Even space for Dustin Rhodes to emerge and on and on 'em Jeff. We can list the guys. I just think the roster is regardless of how you feel about whether every decision they made was right six months for. I think they're on the path to having a really successfully nurtured deep roster of established new names. Yeah I I was in that category because while I have my criticisms and overall I've been I've tried to have been trying to give a w kind of a a look see kind of like. We were talking with football. Sports analogies their new team. Like the Texans the Houston Texas when they came out. I wasn't gonNA compare to like the Pittsburgh steelers or the Minnesota Vikings at the time under that would have been the randy ratio or post racial. I can't maybe that's a sore spots all shot upwards with that one way but in terms of where they're at. I didn't mind that the MVP warrant on top. Because I thought they had done so much for a private party they had done so much. Guevarra in for Darby and Heck putting an opportunity so Jericho head the floor in the oxygen all to himself to suck out of the room and in the best way possible and so the more they can kind of find that footing and the more they've done better in telling those stories on screen and having promos that are on screen and having interviews that get to where they need to be the better it's been for the folks who haven't been initiated into the club did not feel like this is a secret you know you gotTa do the secret handshake or you won't know what's going on exactly. Yes whole secret. Handshake aspect was was. The danger. Early on rich will will wrap up there. Thank you so much Got A lot covered here and you'll cover more including some topics off the beaten path on the deep dive. 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March to Wrestlemania - Notsam Wrestling

Notsam Wrestling

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March to Wrestlemania - Notsam Wrestling

"Introducing your host from New York. Here is Sam rumors here. We go whether it feels like it or not. It is truly the most magical time of the year whether it feels like it or not the most important time to be a wrestling fan. All Year is upon us. The most magical wrestling weekend of the year is here for twenty twenty whether it feels like it or not it is here and I have one goal today. One simple goal to bring back that lovin feeling to make you feel it again. I've been working on it. It's been a personal goal of my own to bring that feeling back to me and now that I think I have. I'm GONNA bring it back to you. Welcome to not see him wrestling a very very special Thursday edition of not Sam wrestling for everybody. Thursday not Sam Thursday generally reserved strictly for the not Sam shells the wonderful folks who are members of Patriot dot com slash not san wrestling. We do this every week just for them but today now today this is too important so today this special bonus podcast goes out to all of the world everybody gets to bear witness to not Sam. Wrestling presents the march to wrestlemainia thirty six. And yes the title marched. Wrestlemainia is a direct rip off of the. Wwe's show that they use to run. I think they'd definitely did it. I think the March wrestlemainia before wrestlemainia nine and the march to wrestlemainia before Wrestlemainia. Ten are both on the WWE network. It would be these specials. Did they would put on a few days. Usually before wrestlemainia. It would be in lieu of a go home show. It would be like a super show you know this was the era when you would see mainly enhancement talent matches on TV so what wwe would do every now and then they would do the march to Wrestlemainia. They would do the summer. Sanders slammed sizzlers sizzle down. I don't know what they would do for summer slim but I for the big pay per views the survivor series showdown. I believe they did at one year. they would put on these super shows where it wouldn't just be enhancement talent matches. It wouldn't be pay per view matches. But you'd see like bret the Hitman Hart versus rick the Model Martel before. Bret Hart's match with say Shawn Michaels in like ninety two right because brevard versus rick the Model. Martel while it wasn't a big blow off to a rivalry it was you know a a superstar. Bad Guy versus a superstar. Good guy that wasn't something you saw on TV all the time. So I always got excited about those. I always get excited about the march to Wrestlemainia shows and I hope the just calling this the march to Wrestlemainia. We'll start to make you feel excited again. Look I know I've had a unique week. I had a very very exciting week to be able to do the color commentary for Annex T on Wednesday. This week was a dream come true. I saw the overwhelmingly positive response to all of my opinions and I was flabbergasted and humbled do you believe not one negative thing was said about me doing commentary on this week. Not What? It's amazing but I really really appreciate it. Look beyond excited to do that with Tom. Phillips this week hopefully get the chance to do it again sometime because it was awesome to be able to call those matches. I'm sitting here calling doing the color commentary on my favorite show on TV on a show. That's full of great matches velveteen dream of Bobby Fish. I mean the triple threat match. I'm I'm doing commentary on the triple threat. Match between keithly Dominic Di Jakovic and Damian priest and even call Damian Archer once. I mean anybody that thinks that I sucked on commentary on annex t shirt or heard me calling him Damian Archer for an entire podcast one week. Apparently you guys don't do your homework but I thought the show was was so much fun to do. The the commentary for to do it with Tom Phillips. He made it very easy for me. We did it in Stanford Connecticut so I didn't have to travel to Orlando while all oil. All this was going on. I don't live too far away from Stanford and yeah it was just. It was amazing and then you know to be sitting there trending on twitter. Look on please. Don't tell anybody this like don't let people who don't like me no because I don't want to spoil it for anybody but like when I see myself in the top ten of North American twitter trends worldwide. Sometimes like I love it I mean to me. That's like better than pornography. I adore when that happens. So you know and again. Please don't tell anybody that because I don't want to dissuade anybody from saying horrible nasty things on twitter. Because they stopped saying it. Then I won't be trending anymore but I guess if I can't have a building full of annex t fans booing me the next best thing is for them to do it online so I appreciate all all of that and Yemen it was awesome. And I'm looking forward to next week's annex t You don't Tomasso CIAMPA Johnny Gargano. The blackheart versus the Linhart Chris Jericho one last beat. Who's got Chris Jerko? I understand one last. Beat the black art versus the rebel heart. Then that's six woman ladder match my God. The six woman ladder match which will mean even more after Wrestlemainia. So this is why we're here today. This is why this podcast is being made available to everyone. Because we're going into wrestlemainia weekend again whether it feels like it or not. We're going in this is it. This is wrestle mania weekend and I think any wrestling fan right now owes it not to each other to themselves to not be cynical about this thing. Is it possible that it sucks? Yeah guess what Wrestlemainia. Thirteen except for one match sucked and that was in an arena. So you know there have been wrestlemanias that sucked before even in arenas however. There's a lot to be optimistic about on this show. There's a lot to be optimistic about at wrestlemainia thirty six this year. And you have to imagine. Look aside from Annex T. Wwe has not been doing long shows of wrestling in empty buildings. Raw and smackdown have not had more than like one match at a time in that empty building. You've got promos Archive stuff to help. Mix it up. I have to imagine that would two shows for Wrestlemainia that is absolutely I mean. Wwe is first of all day. W is bringing back promoting pay per view for the first time in years. They're trying to encourage people to start buying on pay per view again. Which I think we're probably going to see more and more of I can only imagine like not happening by mistake right. So they're bringing back this concept of buying this to night extravaganza on pay per view for thirty bucks a night which realistically I would have to imagine that wrestlemanias going to be at least three hours a night if not more so you're talking about you know a pay per view price. The I mean it was. I was thirty bucks when I was ten years old now. It's not thirty bucks for most of us because we got the network ten bucks for Wrestlemainia and then all hours of all days. It's it's ten bucks for Wrestlemainia and then also literally as we're talking. I'm watching WRESTLEMAINIA. Nineteen on mute in the background and watching Hulk Hogan versus Vince McMahon. So you know. It doesn't affect most of us but I'm just saying for what it is. I get the disappointment. Going in right I get the disappointment of not having our proper wrestlemainia weekend I have been in attendance at Wrestlemanias since twenty nine. The first Wrestlemania that I saw live was wrestlemainia twenty at Madison Square Garden. The one after that that I saw was wrestlemainia. Twenty four in Orlando. That one was so much fun to be at live. That was ric flair versus. Shawn Michaels obviously and the criminally underrated main event of edge verses undertaker. I love that. Edris undertaker match after Wrestlemainia. Twenty four I went on a five year stretch and then Wrestlemainia twenty nine was my last was the Wrestlemainia that I was at after that At metlife stadium in the shadows of New York City. And I've been in attendance at every wrestlemainia since wrestlemainia twenty nine. I've been at every wrestlemainia in a professional capacity since wrestlemainia. Thirty three thirty three thirty. Yeah so this would have been my fourth wrestlemainia professionally Wrestlemainia. Thirty three was my first. That was back in Orlando Ironically enough wrestlemainia. Thirty four was in New Orleans Wrestlemania. Thirty five back to New York and WRESTLEMAINIA thirty six. It would have been my fourth wrestlemainia that I worked at and I guess twenty nine thirty thirty one thirty two two three four thirty five and my eighth wrestlemainia in a row that I've attended but you got you know super fans like front row. Charlie did they did a youtube show about last year. Which is great that he's been at every wrestlemainia this will be the first wrestlemainia that he has an attended life. You know and for everybody going everybody that had plans to go to Tampa. It's not only wrestlemainia its takeover. It's the hall of fame it's the raw after Wrestlemainia. It's access it's wrestle con. It's all it's blood sport and all of the massive amounts of shows that we're going to be there live for for everybody to see I mean people are ready. I know had complete weekends planned out. Where every hour was going to be filled with live wrestling as not happening. And it's disappointing. And I get that I get that. It's disappointing but we're still getting wrestlemainia somehow. Some way in the middle of a global pandemic when states full states. Getting locked down as we speak the. Wwe has found a way where there's a will there's a way to deliver us. Wrestlemainia and I believe they will deliver a show that is memorable. I believe like any other show. They will deliver us a show with highlights and lowlights. I don't think you should have your expectations through the roof. I don't think that this will be anything like watching Wrestlemainia in a stadium but I think that the WWe is an organization. I think that the crew that is behind the wwe. And I think that the performance that will be in the ring are going to do everything in their power to give us something that we will remember that. They're going to do everything in their power to give us something memorable and to remind everybody that this is Wrestlemainia and we get two nights of it so I'm actually the more I thought about it. The more I was excited obviously bummed out that you know being at Wrestlemainia. There's nothing like it but I think for a lot of us. It's going to be cool to sit down. I think for me. It's going to be cool to sit down in my living room and watch wrestlemainia going to watch with my wife. Domino's pizza has contact lists delivery or whatever now I'll figure out some way to get food without touching anybody that's for sure that's for Damn sure. I'm going to sit there and I'm going to watch this show. That is too big for one night for the first time. Ever this big show okay. I one point said that like when they announced like eight matches for it I said leave at eight matches do four matches tonight. And Bob's your uncle. They didn't listen to me. They said would you sixteen matches? Thanks eight matches a night. One would imagine which is like incredible. But we'll see how they pull it off the other thing is we've gotten to a point in this cove in nineteen pandemic that is affected everybody across the world in some way shape or form that. I know for me in New York. I've gotten to the point where I'm like a news guy. I watch the news every night. I watched the news all the time. It doesn't like I enjoy it. I think it's entertaining. You Know I. I like Cable News. I'll watch CNN. And then I'll watch Fox News and I'll see them saying to completely opposite things in an act everybody sitting there acting like wrestling's fake in the news is just like journalistic integrity. That's giving it to us like it is but even I who doesn't really get affected by all that Lego which the news at bums me out. I can't watch the news. It bums me out. I need an escape from this. This is not a fun. Time anywhere in the world right now. The best thing that I can think of is the fact that there is going to be wrestlemainia on Saturday and Sunday this weekend. That I'M GONNA be able to sit there and watch this tonight extravaganza and get away from everything. That's going on in the world. I think it's great. I think it's a great service. The WWE is providing us. I know I sound like she'll but Soviet it's how I feel and it's left me excited. I've been watching a lot of older wrestlemanias I would I would implore that you do that. I would implore you go in optimistically not cynically optimistically and you go and you watch the compilations that the wwe network has put together. There's a ton of them. You know you can watch full wrestlemanias you can watch wrestlemainia. Nineteen you watch wrestlemainia. Seventeen you could watch wrestlemainia. Twenty twenty four is a good one to watch wrestlemainia. Thirty three in Orlando is a really good one to watch. You know. There's a ton of them. You could go back. You can watch. I say my favorite old school old school wrestlemainia probably like Wrestlemainia. Fourteen is fun if you're an attitude era fan you know seeing Wrestlemainia Wrestlemainia. Nine is an extravaganza wrestlemainia aid. The first WRESTLEMAINIA. I think that was in a in a stadium. I mean they botched the ending something fierce but there are a lot of great moments in wrestlemainia eight but watch the compilations. They have like the the ten greatest wrestlemainia matches of all time. They have the best title matches in the last fifteen years. They've the best stone cold at Wrestlemainia. The best triple H Wrestlemainia. They have all these compilations four and five hours long. 'cause all matches were there in full. Watch him get in the spirit of things like an. Don't watch with this feeling of and you know it's not going to be the same anymore. Oh this is what I wanted and I'm not GonNa get it. Watch it in. This is Wrestlemainia. Let's enjoy it together and think about it this way. Think about the fact that Ed raw specifically raw raw has only gotten better sense. The I know audience raw. I believe there have been three rows without an audience. I WANNA say. And they've gotten progressively better as they've gone and think about the road happened on on on Monday. You had the undertaker look the truth about the undertaker. Is You want to talk about the fans. Being cynical there is a huge the whole undertaker's story. Aj styles whole attitude is based on wrestling fans that say that the undertaker should be wrestling anymore is based on cynical wrestling fans that all pop up for. Probably the last at least five years whenever it's announced that the undertaker is going to have a match. The undertaker delivered a Promo on raw. Though it was the best thing that he's done in years the best promo sure that he's done in years and that could have been hokey. That could have been really corny with the tombstone and the smoke. And everything with the idea that we're kind of Skirting that line of Cafe Versus Reality Alan Jones Mark. Calloway but I'm still a room full of smoke and there's a tombstone behind me but the undertaker pulled off. Wwe pulled it off. It made me more more invested in that match that Brahma one hundred percent a hundred percent. You know it was great. It was fun to watch. I mean look at the PROMOS. The Kevin owns and Seth rollins have done on raw in the last two weeks. It's the two best promos that they've done in a year. Seth rollins maybe even longer. I wouldn't have cared about Kevin's versus. Seth rollins before all this happened. I wouldn't have cared at all but now now all of a sudden I care because of how good the promos were there will be moments in this show that benefit from not having an audience. It's just true there'll be moments in the show that completely takes away the fact that there's no audience of course but why sit there and think about the moments that won't be as good. Will you think about the moments that we'll be better? Why not celebrate this thing that we're all watching as an escape? Everybody's you can't deal with reality so why go to this world of fantasy and try to make it worse when you could be enjoying you know what I mean? I want to go by and and just go match by match for what is actually a pretty decent wrestlemainia card in my opinion and we'll talk more about the promos that have been on raw smackdown and the lead up to this thing as we go match by match. I think that that's the way to do it So first matchup and I think I kind of put these in order of what I'm looking forward to the most Is Alastair Black versus? Bobby Lashley I think this one you know. I don't know what Bobby Lashley kind of expected when he came back to. Wwe But I don't think it would make a lick of sense to have Bobby Lashley come even close to winning this match. I think that this is. This is simply an exhibition. This is a display for Alastair back black on the biggest show of the year. I think that this is not the most complicated match in the world. There's no back story whatsoever to it. This is just okay. We've been watching Alastair Black beat up enhancement talent on raw. So let's go to Wrestlemainia and watch him beat up pretty established guy. I think that's all it. Is You know an outsider. Black is matches have been short but his matches on raw have been highlights. He's been able to get his character over and put on compelling segments that are you know two to three minutes long however long they are and that's all they need to be. You know the quiet works for a character like Alastair Black. It's okay you don't need all the other stuff so this match. I don't predict it going very long. And I predict allaster black to have a dominant victory over Bobby Lashley. You've got the TAG team match. That was just changed this week on raw. So we'll talk about this. There are matches on this show. That may still be changed. You know we're doing our march to wrestlemainia show before smackdown airs. Because you've got you've got twenty two hours between smackdown and Wrestlemainia wrestlemainia Saturday and Sunday. I believe they're both starting at seven PM Eastern on the network And you've got a a kickoff show before each one that started six which I won't be on either kickoff show so I don't know who's going to watch him but the street profits are now defending the Tag Team Championship Against Austin Theory and Angel Garza. We'll of course have Selena Vega in their corner. Now there's supposed to be Andrey an Angel Garza Andrey injured his rib so he was replaced at the last minute by Austin theory not the biggest deal in the world because Angel Garza and dry day. Were you know barely even a team before this anyway? So I think this is another example of an exhibition of characters. This is just A. Let's have the good guys win at Wrestlemainia Moment for the street prophets? You know that's all it is but I think it. It should be mentioned that I already thought this was a big deal. When I was like Angel Garza is now getting a wrestlemainia match. That's pretty big for somebody. Who started the year? I mean he was on the annexed T- roster and just kind of without incident and dry day win out for thirty days in Angel. Garza came in picked up and You know impressed people enough that he's sticking around on raw so I am having a wrestlemainia match. I thought was a big deal but a much bigger deal is the fact that Austin theory who we just saw evolve had a special on the wwe network not too long ago and that was the first time we him. We've seen a handful of times in T- primarily losing matches and now he's got a championship match at Wrestlemania tag title match. I mean that's a big deal for Austin theory. You know he's going to have a lot of is regardless of which about Wrestlemainia in terms of wwe network views. There's GonNa be a lot of people that wash wrestlemainia. Is it going to get the same number that raw gets? I don't know about all that but you know I people. This is why people have the network and I think. Wwe's that a lot of advertising for Wrestlemainia this year. You know they're not trying to bury it and say okay. Let's just get it done and keep it. They're trying to make a spectacle out of it. You know Becky Lynch did a ton of press us on this. Podcast and south rollins has done a ton of press triple. H has done a ton of privacy was on Robbie Barstools podcast. He was on Pat. Mcafee podcast he was on. Espn on sportscenter. He was GonNa do this podcast but I talked to him and he said. Let's save it for when prime time wrestling starring. Triple Agent Sam Roberts debuts as like Paul that's a good idea said thank Sam calling me triple H I said okay. You got trips. He said triple H is fine. I said you got it. Mr Triple H so I think that this is going to be three profits. You know I. I think that that you know I would probably say that maybe one night you open with Bobby. Lashley vs Alastair Black the next night you open with St profits versus Angel Garza and Austin Theory Big Step for us in theory for sure on Barry Corbin versus Elias. This match was made. I guess two weeks ago on smackdown not a ton of back story again except the baron. Corbett is a bad guy. Good Guy Alliance was singing a song in annoyed Baron Corbin so now they're gonNA fight. You know I really think Barron corporate needs this victory badly you know. I don't think that when Elias is interesting because when allies was a bad guy he's like a main event level bad guy like he wasn't world title contention but he was top of the car. Bad Guy you know. He was a year ago. Wrestlemainia John Cena and him had a physical altercation. He was the one that was pegged not to have a match but to have a physical altercation with John. Cena so you know. I think that that he's certainly become more of an entertainment act now that he's a good guy. He hasn't won a huge number of matches. You know he had some trouble getting his hands on the twenty four seven championship and since then is kind of abandoned any Any hope whatsoever for allies to beat. Baron Corbin I think it would really cement baron Corbin's faith or fate as a guy probably his faith in God to it would probably Cement Barron Corbin's fate as somebody. Who's here to be a big credible bad guy who gets booed but inevitably is GONNA lose every match to a good guy and a guy like that you can have him having matches with Elias. But you can't put them in the main event you know. Barron corporate just spent what feels like three years losing every week to Roman reigns so I think that that it would serve him really well to go to Wrestlemainia this year and remind people that is fully capable of also winning matches especially against people like Elias. So for me. This should be all Barron Corbin. I still think that this match should be taking place in a concert. Venue or dress up some area of full sail like it's a concert venue or something but an empty concert venue. I think still think is the place for this match but either way no matter where it takes place it should be all baron. Corbin top to bottom. We'll go at the women's Tag Team Championship. You've got Kabuki warriors versus Alexa Bliss. Nikki Cross We've seen Katie Sane in quite a while you all the Internet rumor report websites are saying that she'll be there so I'm sure she will You know I mean I like the Kabuki Warriors. Women's TAG team champions. I I like the Kabuki Warriors. I think Oscar's new Mike work has been made Oscar. Even more interesting you know goes in this spot where it was like for a year. I Oscar turning heel was a very good thing because from the royal rumble of last year until the time that Oscar turned heel. She really didn't have a lot going on. And at some of that time she was actually the smackdown women's champion. But you really was background noise for most of last year becoming a villain teaming with Katie Sane bringing back. The green missed becoming this character. I think he's done Oscar a world a world of good I think lately adding the The the the crazy talking to everything you know going over the commentary booth shouting Japanese love. It love every time is on the screen. I've been a huge fan since annexed. T. So whatever we can add Oscar to make it work better on the main roster. I'm in favor of I think that everything has been working However I think that it's been working so well that Oscar could probably I think the women's division at this point could use the female star power? You know I think. Having Oscar and sane as singles competitors in the raw women's division is better for the raw women's division than having them as a team especially because nobody is competing for these women's tag team championship. I mean you don't see women's tag team matches except when they defend the titles once every quarter so you know I. I don't think that the Kabuki warriors having title if anything it's better to have the Kabuki warriors be a well known team and not be the tag team champions because right now the Kabuki warriors being known entity and being the champions leaves you with a grand total of one women's tag teams if Nikki Cross and Alexa. Bliss were to win the Tag Championship. You would be cemented the two of them as a tandem. The KABUKI warriors would still be a team. And now you've got to tag teams and we can build from there may be the iconic could exist again. You'd have three tag teams. You know you can kinda slowly start to build this thing back up but I think that I think that it is time for the Kabuki warriors to lose those titles and to become bigger as single stars and I think that it would certainly add a lot to Alexa Bliss and Nicky Cross to that whole act if they had those titles with them when they did moment bliss and whatnot It would remind everybody that they're wrestler. Not just you know. Talk show hosts And Yeah and I think that everybody would be happy because people like Alexa Bliss. Nikki Cross. So that's my pick for that tag match moving on. I thought we missed one. You get the big grudge match. The match settled. That's going to settle everything Dolf Ziegler. Who'll have Mandy rose? In his Corner Against Otis Otis. Getting the big singles match at Wrestlemania. Kind of a surprise to me. I figured that they would They would keep encapsulating the tag teams. You know in my mind. I had a smackdown tag team championship. Triple Threat Match in my head. Which was miz and Morrison versus Heavy Machinery Versus Bobby Rudolph Ziegler and that would make it. So that not only could heavy machinery and Otis get his revenge on doll but they could leave tag team champions which I think people would be really psyched about But that's not the case Look I think that I think that you have to have a lot of good guys winning at Wrestlemainia this year more than ever every wrestlemainia. You have a lot of good guys winning right. That's what Wrestlemainia is But this year more than ever. It's got a number one it's got to be a feel-good Wrestlemainia and number two realistically. Can we leave Wrestlemainia thinking? Oh he'll get him next time. When is next? I'm going to be I don't know I don't even know if the state's open you know what I mean the weird time that we're in right now we don't know what wrestling looks like immediately after Wrestlemainia. So I don't think you can do a lot of cliffhangers I think you Kinda gotta at least short-term settle what you're settling on. I think manny rose is Hella popular. I think people. It's a thing when you have somebody who's is attractive is Mandy rose there. Is this idea. Well we could make her a bad guy and every guy. The could never get a date with her. We'll boo her and every girl that can never look like our. We'll do her. It's like when sable came out. She was like you know all the Women WanNa be me and all the men came to see me and you know your bag you get booed networks however I think that people want to cheer Mandy Rose I think also that that that same psychology of fans one of Boo Mandy rose because they couldn't data in high school the reason they WanNa boomer is because they wanted to date or in high school and they want to believe that it gets better. They want to believe that there is this world where once we get out of high school once we get into the real world. Somebody like me could date this. Knockout could date this ten. And somebody like me is Otis. I think that you gotTa have that feel good moment. Look people were invested. This storyline was going on at the same time. As the Roussev Lana Bobby Lashley storyline and aside from the wedding segment. Which to me. The wedding segment worked and I really actually liked the wedding segment. But the storyline itself was a flop. People were much more invested in this storyline than they were in the Rousseff Lana Lashley storyline. Because they wanted it to work people want to see Otis and Mandy rose as an onscreen couple and I think that you gotTa have the resolution here at Wrestlemainia. I think you gotTa leave people going home happy. And I think you've got to have this moment. Where Mandy rose. Maybe has this realization where she realizes the Dolf is Ziegler is a scumbag and the Dolph was manipulating her. The whole time you know we we get some clarification on. Maybe maybe her text or whatever was lost or whatever whatever happened and I think that you gotTa have you gotTa have Mandy. Rose turn on. Dolf and side with Otis and then I think the future of that is you can go to raw i. So here's what I love. I really liked the idea of going to smack down from this and again like we said we don't know what short-term looks like but in terms of story. After this I would have Mandy go with Otis. Had the feel good moment. We all feel great at home. You can only imagine. Can you imagine what that pop would be in Tampa in the stadium? If may I mean it would be like Macho and Liz wrestlemanias seven? If Mandy turned on Dolph Otis beat Dolph and then Mandy and Otis embrace and kiss in a stadium full of people. I mean they would lose their minds. They'd be so happy for Otis. It would be amazing. We can't have him kiss. We don't have an audience full of people I get it. We can still have that moment. Where Otis and Mandy do come together as a union and then I love the idea of going forward. You know doll now can't really compete without us because you know east country strong and having a having Sonia Deville Kick Otis in the face and finding out that Sonia developed is not dolf. Ziegler's girlfriend is Dolf Sigler's bodyguard and you don't have to use the term bodyguard because it's been done before but the idea of Sonia Developing Dolf Ziegler's muscle and then you've got the you've got the Mandy rose and Sonia don't like each other you've got Dolf Sigler notice. Don't like each other. You got dolls. Ziegler's the chicken. He'll because he's got Sonia Davila's his as his muscle. That's where I would go with it. But in order to get there we gotta start with Otis and Mandy together once and for all moving on you got your Five PAT challenged. Somebody drank one of the cans already. But we're still going into wrestlemainia with a five pack. You've got Bailey defending the title. I think this is a limitation five pack against him Meena Naomi Sasha Banks Lacey Evans Good I mean again that wrestlemanias spot I think that eventually Naomi needs to be smackdown women's champion again. I think Naomi is definitely Naomi's Naomi's by the definitely the most popular woman on smackdown. And I mean you know. I think that she's got the potential to be even bigger. I think you know. There's so much upside to Naomi. I think that she could be that mainstream women's champion on smackdown however. I don't think that wrestled this match is the time to do it. I think that this match is very simply to me it gets eliminated early Naomi gets eliminated because Sasha banks and Bailey or double teaming her Sasha banks in Bailey are double teaming Lacey Evans only for to have Sasha Banks Kick Bailey in the head what Lacey Evans Pins Bailey. So you have that moment or barely just looks at Sasha and Lacey looks at Sasha and Lacey looks at Bailey and when Lacey looks at Bailey. Sasha SNEAK Attacks Lacey Evans gets the PIN on her. Sasha banks walks out smackdown women's champion. She's turned on Bailey and we can go forward with baileigh versus Sasha banks. I think Sasha banks should be smackdown women's champion I think that the Sasha banks is really good as a heel but she should have friends if she's going to be he'll and you know. I think the people are really waiting for that. People are waiting to have a Sasha Banks Bailey main roster rivalry that they can actually sink their teeth into and this is one that you could tell that story. I mean you know I've hearken back before to take over Brooklyn One and the match the Balian. Sasha banks put on. I think if you've got a good Guy Bailey who is not a cartoon who is not a side ponytail hugger who's just Bailey and a bad guy. Sasha banks. I think you're into something. And then after that. I think is the time where we bring Naomi in to do this. You know But yeah I mean I would. I would have this match designed specifically for the Sasha banks and Bailey tandem to collapse Moving on you get the smackdown tag team championship. Triple Threat Ladder match. Which I don't really want to get too deep into because every dirt sheet website is saying that this matching happen as it. Is You know that they're they that it'll be changed. It'll be either singles match or some kind of other triple threat match. But the match as we see apparently is not going to happen. You know I think it could be a moment for Kofi to have another moment of glory. But he hasn't had a moment of glory since October when he lost brock listener. So I mean I feel like we've seen the new day and we've seen the TAG team champions a million times and I feel like at this point if you were to take the tag titles off the Miz and Morrison. They didn't they haven't done anything tag. Champions so the whole title rain will have been a pointless endeavor if you take the titles off Ms Moore Senate Wrestlemainia. So we'll see I mean again. It's all completely up in the air since apparently this match as it looks isn't but I don't know I don't know for sure but I wouldn't be surprised by the way if there are a lot of changes in what we saw you know. I wouldn't be surprised that there's a lot to get mixed up as we go. Who knows who knows. No spoilers have really gotten out other than the changes here and I think the changes the did get out probably leaked on purpose so And I say that because none of the results are out You've got the Intercontinental Championship match. Daniel Bryan versus Sammy Zane. I love the way this thing has been built. This is the match that I one of the matches that I've pure faith in can still be great in an empty building I think this should be happening on a grappling. That as I've said before on the podcast in a in a gym somewhere. But it's not however I do think that you've got drew dulack in the corner of Daniel Bryan but in the corner of same. Zane of course says ro and Shinsegei Nakimora I think this is one of them. That the bad guy should win I think that that same using losing the intercontinental title right now would probably fall in line with what I said about Ms Morrison. You know It would feel very transitional champion to have. Sammy's ain't lose the title. Look it has never fully been settled. Why Braun Strowman lost the intercontinental title? To begin with the rain was very short and then to have that story kind of taper out and be replaced with this one. If Sammy's aim were to lose that title you had a nice rain with Shinsegei Nakimora but you had a very quick rain with Braun strowman. If you then follow that up with a very quick Sammy's in rain you start to lose track of WHO's intercontinental champion. I think the Sammy's aim being the intercontinental champion adds a lot to the Shinsegei Nakimora CICERO. Sammy's Ain't package. I think it has a lot to say museum as a performer and I think that he should keep the title. I don't think Daniel Bryan stands to benefit whatsoever from having the Intercontinental Championship. You know I think that if you announce tomorrow the Daniel Bryan is actually not going to be in this match. He'll be in the universal title match with Goldberg. Everybody would be like Yep and I hope he wins. I don't I think at this point in his career. Daniel Bryan is kind of above titles and whatnot. I don't I don't think it matters so. I think this should be Sammy Zane. I think he should cheat to win. and Yeah. I mean and that's what makes sense to me. Moving on this match is a match that I think so far has and will continue to benefit in an empty building. And I'm telling you right now I know I know. I don't think I know that this match were happening in a stadium and the promos leading up to this match happened in arenas with an audience I would not care about this match whatsoever. I did not care about this storyline. Before we were seeing I didn't care about this storyline before this match was announced. This match was one of the matches announced after the full sail. The performance center shows started I didn't care about the story. I cared about it at the very beginning when Steph. I turned heel and he was revealed in the van. But all those multi person tag matches all the confrontations that they had. I just didn't care. I care about Seth Rollins as a character. I somewhat cared about Kevin Owens as a good guy character but I did not care about this match. I started carrying about this match one week ago. Monday when Seth rollins delivered the Promo of a lifetime when he said that Kevin is a failure wrestlemainia and all he does is shine and have moments there and then I doubled down and cared even more when I heard Kevin Owens Promo on raw this week when Kevin O'Neill was breaking down exactly who seth rollins was and Kevin owns is breaking down. What the what. The what the feeling on Seth Rollins was before you know when the performed center I started you know and and and the history that has been built into this match. I don't think that history would be able to build into this match. If we were being distracted by fan saying you know I just think this is one of those stories. That benefited greatly from no fans being in the audience. And I think because of that the story of this match will be better without an audience. I've one hundred percent faith in these to be able to pull off an empty building match. And Yeah Yeah and I think that this is you know it's of course it's gotta be all Kevin Allen's right like you know you can't go on television and say Kevin Owens is a wrestlemainia mania failure and haven't fail at Wrestlemainia. I mean I guess you can. Because then he actually is a failure. And you weren't lying. I guess you could but I think we've put Kevin into this position where he needs to win any should win. You know I don't think seth rollins is moving onto face. Well I guess if drew McIntyre were to win the WWe championship. I Guess Seth Rollins the next guy but I don't think people want to see seth rollins in a title match right now you know. I don't think people were thrilled with him as the universal champion so. I don't think that there's an eagerness to see him competing for the wwe championship right now. And because of that I think it would be safe for him to lose this match and I think Kevin could probably use the boost. So all Kevin Owens and I'm I'm anticipating the match. I'm also anticipating this one. You know I think that At this point in the undertaker's career a street fight is good for him. I think that AJ styles can pull off any match at anytime. He's one of the greatest like I said you know. Aj's Promo Kinda was what it was last week. But this week the undertaker's. Promo was killer is awesome and I think that that people people say. Oh well then. This is going to be the American bad ass undertaker not the dead man undertaker. But I think there's this other version of the undertaker. I think there's this version of the undertaker. Keep a mind there've been so many versions of the undertaker besides American bad ass undertaker. There's Ministry of Darkness Undertaker. There's Corporate Ministry. Undertaker there was Kinda like deadwood looking undertaker when I came back at Wrestlemainia. Twenty there was Mma undertaker when he dropped the leather pants and started wearing tights and a tank top and anime gloves. There's Perfectly good guy undertaker. There's Greg Laws Bagai undertaker. There's a leather Daddy. Survivor series ninety six hundred acre. There's a ton of different evolutions of the undertaker character and I think that we're going to see just another evolution of it at Wrestlemainia in this bone yard match. I think that it's going to be just a a more human version of the dead man. It's in a bone yard which I'm imagining is a cemetery. There was a tombstone on raw so I took that to mean a bone yard in the cemetery are basically the same thing But I don't know for sure So I'm interested to see what it is and I wanted to. I I wonder if they'll film it Cinematic I wonder if this will look more like a movie than a match. I don't think that would be the worst idea in the world. I think that if you're ever going to be experimental with stuff like this now is the time. I think there's no doubt that the undertaker should win this match. I don't think that. Aj styles it detracts from him really to lose the undertaker at this point And Yeah I mean. I think if you're gonNA beat the undertaker it should feel like is at least an attempt and making your career so far too at Wrestlemainia two guys have beaten the undertaker wrestlemainia one of them's brock listener. That made him one of them is Roman reigns and that was at least an attempt to make him so you know I don't think that. Aj Styles is in that type of a position. So you know I don't think there's any reason for AJ styles to win that match at Wrestlemainia you got raw women's championship online. Becky Lynch for Shayna Baseler all week. I've been going back and forth this man. I mean if you really want Shayna baseler to look like a monster. She should win. However and Becky Lynch on our podcast on Monday made it. Seem like she wasn't main eventing she also made it. I think she said on another interview that she thinks this matches happening on Saturday. We know the Kevin. Seth rollins matches happening on Saturday because Kevin owns mentioned it. That's all we know right now in terms of scheduling. But I would imagine that this isn't going on last you know. I don't think you could justify this match going on last either night. There's enough main events I mean you know on a with sixteen announced matches. I put this at number eleven. There's five matches that I put above this one at least and you could and I mean is being generous. I think you could easily argue the undertaker. Aj Styles matches above this one too. That'd be six. I think that I think that you want you're going on last. Of course becky has to win. 'cause you're going to end wrestlemainia either night with. Shane obeys that are holding the raw women's championship. But the fact that this match probably is not going on last would lead me to believe that there is much more of a chance for Shayna Baiser to win the raw women's championship. I think the way she and bazars been displayed. You know. Let's keep in mind. Paul Heyman is running raw. Paul Heyman is a responsible for a lot of the portrayal of brock listener. Shall we say and what made brock listener? I think he might see a lot of that. In China Baiser as well. Brock listener doesn't lose much. I would imagine maybe a Baiser won't lose much so the idea of Shane obeys ler ending. Becky Lynch's year long raw women's title rain. You know that you want wrestlemainia thirty five only to lose it at Wrestlemainia thirty six like I think. That's very possible. But at the same time if Shane Obeys Ler Beats Becky Lynch all that's left is for Becky Lynch to get a rematch and beat Chenab Acer and win the title back if Becky Lynch were to win and just barely squeak by Shayna baiser can come back. Shanab as gone in another streak of beating everybody and then come back and beat Becky Lynch. I actually think that long term it will benefit. Shane obeys learn more. If she loses to Becky Lynn. Shit wrestlemainia just barely lose becky. Lynn Wrestlemainia maybe. She has becky in a submission. And then becky rolls on top of her and gets to pinner. You know what I mean. It should be one of those losses like Brock listeners. I you have fight against Frank Mir where brock lost the match. He tapped out but he was really impressive. Leading up to the tap out and the only reason that he tapped out was because it was his first fight and he pulled a move where he just had his foot placed poorly and it was a move of inexperience and people kind of forgave it and said. Yeah but he was still way better than I thought he would be. Frank Mir was on the ground when that happened And I think that that's kind of divide. I think you WANNA a Frank Mir becky lynch here. I think that you want to leave this match going like I mean Becky Lynch is still the champion. Shane of Baylor is going to be a real problem for a lot of people. That's how I would. I would see this one ending. You got the fiend Bray Wyatt versus John Cena inside the firefly funhouse not not the venue that I would put it in. I would keep it in the ring and keep it serious But still I'm really looking forward to this match and that's one. I think that will be theatrical. You know there's so much creativity in all of the fiends stuff and John. Sina is smart enough to not probably not put himself in something. That looks Hokey so my expectations are still definitely high for this match. I think things could change on smackdown because you're going to have a confrontation Johnson and we'll be on smackdown so this may evolve and my opinions. My opinions of it may shift but they're already high And I think that this is absolutely the spot for the fien to kind of make up for anything that he lost by losing the Universal Championship. You know. I think they've done a great job of not mentioning. The fiend was ever universal champion. I think they've done a great job of never mentioning the fact over beat him. It's the thing that I said. They should do from the beginning. It's what they're doing because they listen to yours. Truly the last professional broadcasters scoops Roberts So yeah I think that this is going to be all fiend you know. I think that I don't think it'll be just like you know. Destroy them but I think the fiend wall definitely win. I think he needs to win. You know I think that the this is braise make good. This is that moment. I mean to this day literally on Raw Paul. Heyman brought up the fact that brock listener beat Hulk Hogan on that one episode of smackdown but for the rest of brock listeners. Career he beat Hulk Hogan that's on his list. I think that this is what brain needs. Brain needs to be able to say. I beat John Cena. You know. I beat Seth rollins. I beat John Cena. I beat this guy. Beat that guy. That's what we need to be able to say about the fiend and Johnny needs to be on that list so but my expectations are high for them. Being able to pull this one off. Charlotte versus Rea- Ripley Annex. T championship is on the line. I think that this is going to be the women's match that steals the show. You know I think the five pack challenge. I don't think it'll be bad but it'll just be what it is I think I think becky versus Shannon will be good but I think rea- Ripley versus Charlotte will be the one that people leave talking about. And I think that Charlotte needs to leave. Wrestlemainia the annexed he women's champion. I know that logic would dictate that Charlotte here is being used to put over the new talent. Which is the most valuable way to use? Charlotte the Rear Ripley's the future. She's twenty three years old. The fans love her. Her matches are great. Obviously we should bring her wrestlemainia so she shines if she wins it shines on all of X T. And that's what we need to do However and I talked about this on Monday on the podcast. I really think that this needs to be about Charlotte Charlotte to me. I mean I guess she. She won the women's championship at Wrestlemania. Thirty two in Dallas but since wrestlemania thirty two. This is how Charlotte's been used even last year. Wrestlemainia thirty five Charlotte was really used as a person. I mean there's a role. She was a heel. Because it was like we'll Charlotte. It's almost like she's too good. She's the Johnson of this thing but for some reason was Charlotte. They don't have the same thing that they have with John. Cena or with Roman reigns where it's like no they don't lose And they're not GONNA turn heel. Charlotte will turn he owned. We'll turn face on the drop of a dime and she loses all the time. There's something about that flare DNA because it's in the flare DNA that a flare. Except maybe not David so much but the of Charlotte flair and Ric flair. Because they can lose and they're so good that it doesn't matter they end up losing all the time and I don't think that that's something that should be taken advantage of. It makes me feel like people are being taken for granted and I feel like Charlotte. Losing this match is taking Charlotte for granted I think Charlotte won the royal rumble. I think she should win the NFC women's Championship. I think that that Charlotte winning the annex t women's Championship and then going to annex t with it puts more eyes on T. than rea- Ripley having a great match at Wrestlemainia and then bring the title back to Annex T. I think on Wednesday when we're watching an annex T six-way women's ladder match and we know that the winner is GonNa Fight Charlotte at some point for that. Nfc Women's championship. I think it creates an entirely new dynamic. I think the Charlotte we were talking about. Chenab as being booked brock listener. I think Charlotte can be the women's brock listener of the next brand. Charlotte can be somebody who takes the annex t women's title hostage. Charlotte can be an enemy of the entire roster and you can sit there and you can. Have you know Bianca bellairs got a problem with Charlotte every a Ripley Loses to Charlotte? Ripley's got a problem with Charlotte. Let's say Bianca doesn't win the ladder match? Let's say somebody else wins the ladder match Could be anybody. Let's eighteen knocks. Wins the ladder match now teague inox could have a problem with Charlotte? You know what I mean you've got you've got a lot built in that people would really care about and every match that Charlotte had on annex. T would be a big deal so I think that there is actually more upside. An re-really can get it back. Real rippling can get that wind back. This isn't this. Wouldn't be a burial of Rear Ripley? This wouldn't be the end of RIA by any stretch of the imagination. Especially if the match was really good you know. Do I think that Charlotte is going to win? I don't i. I can't say that I think Charlotte is going to win. But I think Charlotte should win. I think that that would make for a more interesting annex t and wwe quite frankly and then she she still a raw athlete she shown up on raw every week with the NFC women's championship. That's just a commercial for Wednesday nights on the USA network. Which I think is a very valuable to do with your Monday night raw. Tv Time we move on to the match that I believe will steal the show at Wrestlemainia. We move onto the match that I've said before and I will say again will be better in an empty arena. Then it would have been in a stadium. We move onto edge versus Randy Orton. Last man standing. This is not going to be a match. This is going to be a movie. This is going to be something that people talk about for years to come. We can talk about this wrestlemainia and how our expectations are low. And how there's no audience and how it's not gonna be the same mark. My words edge versus Randy Orton last man standing wrestlemainia. Thirty six will be on. Wrestlemainia highlight reels for the rest of eternity. We'll be looking at Rock Austin. We'll be looking at rock Hogan we'll be looking at listener angle. We will be looking outside of the stadium into an empty building at edge versus Randy Orton. I am not convinced. By the way if Utah Edge versus Randy Orton. Last man standing in a stadium is not guaranteed to be on best of wrestlemainia compilations for the rest of time by any stretch of the imagination. No it is not edge Randy Orton. Last man standing empty performance center. I guarantee that match will be on Wrestlemainia best every all's forever it's going to be the best match on the show and it is going to be better without an audience. The promos that these two have had this match was already. It was already the best built match going into Wrestlemainia. The PROMOS got two thousand times better when the people went home. When this thing actually got personal randy Orton had already Arcadio Beth. Phoenix Edge. Had already come back and said Hey I am super pissed that you are kayode my wife but it didn't feel real. It didn't feel personal until the audience went home and edge talk directly to camera and then just when we thought that was a one time thing randy comes back the next week and I mean reminds the world with a promo not even a match with a Promo reminds the world. Oh Yeah you know how I've been around all this time. You must've forgotten. I'm one of the best to ever do. This and then edge comes back. Would that backstage Promo on raw this week and you go. Oh my God. I thought I couldn't be more into this match and I am the wrestling world the WWe universe talks about their disgust for part timers. Brock listener is a he'll because he is a part timer but there is so much care about this edge. Randy Orton Story. That it doesn't even matter that edge returned at the royal rumble and hasn't wrestled since and I've seen criticisms about my opinion that edge versus Randy. Orton will be better in an empty building than it will be in a stadium and that criticism is will. You're not gonNA get the pop. How would you ever say that? It's better when this is gonNA be edges return match at Wrestlemainia and the moment would have been the pop. That's my whole point. You Moron if edge versus Randy. Orton took place in a stadium. The match would have been about the pop. The match would have been about edges entrance. The match would have been about how excited everyone was to see edge. When the hardy boys came back to Wrestlemainia. Do you even remember who they fought? Do you even remember. Can you name every team that was in that ladder match? That match was about the pop. That the hardy boys returning at wrestlemainia thirty four or thirty. Three in Orlando was about the moment was about the fans realizing that the hardy boys were there it was about the first couple beats of that. Song Boo Boo Boo and the fans losing their minds. That's all it was about. Edge versus Randy Orton in a stadium. The biggest moment of that match. Is You think you know me? Di Di di Di di Di di Di di Di di did it murmur on Thursday edge versus Randy Orton in an empty building. It's not about edges return. It's not about people excited to see edge. It's not about randy you know. Being in a different level it's about the match is about the story we've now gotten rid of all the nonsense and we're ready for two of the greatest professional wrestlers of all time to tell one of the best stories. The WRESTLEMAINIA has had in years. And that is going to happen because not in spite of because it's in an empty building the best thing that ever happened to edge and Randy Orton is that Wrestlemainia was moved to the performance center. You could say I'm crazy. You could be man 'cause I called. You're more on a minute ago and I apologize for that but I'm not wrong. I'm not and I believe the you will see that either on Saturday or Sunday probably Sunday because this is going to be the best match of Wrestlemainia and this is going to go next year when the WWE network puts out another compilation of the best however many matches from wrestlemainia history. This is the one match from this show that will be on it my opinion okay next ball up. We've got our two and the only reason this that match wasn't number one is because as a traditionalist. I put the two title matches as the number one in two matches for Wrestlemainia this year Universal Title Match. Roman reigns versus Goldberg. Match not happening I'm not telling tales out of school here. I'm not reading room reports. I just follow. Roman reigns on instagram. Roman reigns made it clear. He is not performing Wrestlemainia. This year. health concerns. You know. Roman reigns immuno-compromised. Anybody that is not sympathetic. To what Roman reigns is going through. Anybody that's sitting there going like if you cheered. Roman reigns when he came back from cancer. And you are not okay with the fact that he decided I'm not performing at Wrestlemainia in the middle of a pandemic that strikes people who have compromised immune systems. Then your dickhead you are I am. I am totally. I believe. Roman reigns is totally within his right to not do this show. I'm bombed for Roman Sake. I would rather see him win the Universal Championship. This way against Goldberg but it is what it is you know. I'm not anyway about it. There are rumors going around as to. Who's going to replace? Roman reigns some people on the Internet. Think that it's Braun strowman other. You know who knows nobody knows? I don't know for sure maybe some people for sure I don't know for sure but I think if it's Braun strowman. I think he should be Goldberg. I think whoever it is should beat Goldberg for the Universal Championship And if it is Braun Strowman I think that that makes a hell of a compelling story you know that you can have Roman reigns. Come back at Summer Slam. Or whenever we're out of this mess and get his title match against Braun Strowman and maybe brunch drama turns. He'll maybe he makes Rome work for it. You know who knows what the way they pull that off or maybe they do good guy. Good guy who knows but Bronx Roman is actually owed a championship title. Run in my opinion anyway so but even if it wasn't Braun whoever it is I hope he beats Goldberg. And I think we'll surely find out who it is on smackdown. You know people think it's a little weird that they didn't announce immediately will Roman reigns Zada Wrestlemainia but like storytelling guys like. Why don't we take a beat and let? Wwe Tell Their story here. You know WHO's false Advertising Law? You know you have the network already so relax you know. I think the will will probably find out on Friday. Who Roman reigns replacement is going to be and I think that we should just let. Wwe Tell Their Story. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Ana The last match. The main event is drew McIntyre versus brock listener Paul Heyman delivered a hell of a promo to close raw bringing up the go home. Show the little bit of breaking the fourth wall. Lots of fourth wall breaking edge and ORTON EDGY. Normally breaking the fourth wall. Aj and undertaker breaking the fourth wall. Paul Heyman Breaking the fourth wall little bit But you know this is a really interesting one because in a stadium like there's not even a conversation here in a stadium. Clearly this is drew. Mcintyre's match you wouldn't even if you're gonNA sit the and I had somebody on this podcast that wanted to debate me and say woo would've brought listener leg. This is stupid. I don't want to have this podcast. I mean Broccoli. Eisner is the quintessential character to never. You can never count him out. But you know of drew. Mcintyre should beat brock listener stadium. Here's the question. Should drew. Mcintyre beat brock listener in an empty building should wrestlemainia go out with drew McIntyre holding up the title. Even though there's no fans in the building I thought about it over the weak. And I'm GonNa tell you the truth on Monday. I thought Brock listeners should keep the title but today I feel differently today. I feel like let's do it if we're going to do it. Let's do it and let's let's do it. Artistically let's have the commentators working their asses off to make to to sell us on this match you know. Let's let's have lessner Andrew do would they do? And let's let's end wrestlemainia thirty six on a good note and let's have drew Qatar win the title. I I'd say I say just put it on them. You know I think even without the pop you can still make it work I think that you have a choice here you can either. If brock listener wins the match. I feel like you're letting wrestlemainia price hope placeholder and just delaying the inevitable shining moment for drew McIntyre on your drew McIntyre wins the title. Then you're saying look say what you want about this but this is wrestlemainia. This is the real deal. This is the real wrestlemainia and drew. Mcintyre just won the title on you know. I think it's time and as we get closer to Wrestlemainia I say. Put the title on drew. It doesn't Ruin Paul Heyman's spoiler prediction thing. Because he sat on raw was the Bra. Glasner would have the title going into Wrestlemainia. Next year. You know he could win the title next February and still go into wrestlemanias the champion next year. So yeah so. I think. I think drew McIntyre walks out of wrestlemainia WWe champion. I think that that's the way to go. 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Drew McIntyre Wins Royal Rumble & Edge Returns After 9 Years

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Drew McIntyre Wins Royal Rumble & Edge Returns After 9 Years

"If you don't know Sirius. XM THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They have it all and right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just US one dollar go to SIRIUSXM DOT com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe offer available to new series. Xm streaming subscribers SIRIUSXM. No car required. This is the busted open podcast. You can listen to the full show Monday through Saturday from nine. Am To noon eastern on Sirius sex him nation Channel One fifty six welcome to the busted open. podcast this is Dave Greco. Today's episode. WWe You w e Hall of Famer Bully Ray and I talk all about the two thousand twenty royal rumble and what a royal rumble. It was the man's royal rumble match. Drew McIntyre has now punched his ticket to wrestlemainia thirty. Six we got the return of a hall of Famer Edge which was an amazing in Charlotte flair winning the women's Royal Rumble and then an MVP performance from Bianca. Bel Air and another hall of Famer and Beth Phoenix and also we get into what I feel was the best Bray Wyatt match ever. That's right the fiend your universal champion in a strap match with Daniel Bryan. I of that right now on the busted open podcast. It's now time for drew. McIntyre gotta give a mini assist to Roman reigns help and drew get over last night because when it came down to drew and Roman. You almost almost heard a collective in the arena because they thought Roman was going to go over again and even I said to myself please. Don't don't Romans been doing so well being far away from the championship. He doesn't need it. Please do not put him over. I could almost like in my my mind. That could have picture vince. Gone well damnit. We've kept away long enough Now's the time let's do it. True will be fine. Let's put Roman over but I'm glad glad they did it. They made the right call last night and drew going over. It was a monster victory. I do want to get back into drew eliminating dating brock. Because Dave it was absolutely masterful and I went on social media this morning and I said that brock was the MVP of last night right. And I truly believe it because if you take brock listener out of the equation of that royal rumble you're left with just a normal royal rumble. That's really no different than any other rumble. We've seen we've got a bunch. We get twenty seven entrance. We got a couple of surprises. A monster supplies like edge. I WANNA get into edges surprise also a little later on the show. What an awesome moment? If you if you're a wrestler working today and you WanNa know if you're over or not go back and listen to pop that'll tell you everything you need to know about whether you're over or not this is. That's the kind of pop that I'm always talking thing about on the show. Dave where you hear the music and simultaneously people leave their seats and scream at the top of their lungs. And that's what used to happen happened on a weekly basis for a lot of superstars so the you know the pop off at the entrance music tells you everything you need to know. What a great return by edge back back to the bronx stuff? Tell me what you saw dave. One brock listener eliminate was eliminated by drew McIntyre. I saw first first of all you have to go with the story that was told with ricochet we were talking about. What happened with ricocheting kicks to the Groin? Area and and Obviously Ricochet was able to get brought back with getting him right with that nut. Shot that definitely. That definitely paralyzed is brock momentarily. And then you get the elimination from Jim Mcintyre and then you see the sales job by brock listener outside that ring I I get the shock and surprise that he was eliminated the disbelief the disbelief. By and then you see the staredown between Brock and drew McIntyre that gave you chills. I mean you couldn't set up a match for Wrestlemainia better than just that few seconds between drew and brock outside outside that ring. Here's why brock listener is the MVP and got drew McIntyre to the moon after ricochet kicks brock and the nuts. You see brock imposition. Brock takes that Claymore as perfectly as I've ever seen anybody take it no hands up that's first of all. Where did the bottom of drew McIntyre's boot hit? Brock listener the face square square in the forehead. Exactly where the finish is designed to hit so we see perfect connection with the move. Brock is saying to to himself. I'm taking this finish as clean as cleaned and be so when they go back and replay on the road to Wrestlemainia. It looks legit Shit. If I'M GONNA get eliminated. I'm getting eliminated as legitimately as possible. Boom takes to kick to claim more to the head. Then the bumpy takes over. The top rope is phenomenal because he selling he's registering the legitimacy of the kick that kick is so good that it can take the peace office feet Tattoo. Pulse him over the top rope and to the floor then he lays there dead not moving. How often do we see the beast dead and not moving never never the look of shock and awe? Aw on Hayman's face brock laying out there like he's making snow angels in Houston Heyman looking down and disbelief. Drew looking over the top rope down at Brock. Click there's your snapshot there's your moment there's there's the moment that they will replay every single week. On the road to Wrestlemania Brock is selling selling and and selling some more and just when you thought Brock lesser had done enough selling. He starts to stagger up and sells also more people channing. Ha You know hey hey goodbye. Brock staggers and stumbles to the back. That whole scenario scenario took about three minutes but in that three minutes brock listener got drew McIntyre over moreover than anybody else has gotten drew McIntyre over in his entire career and that alone is why nobody can talk shit about Brock Leser and we. You just heard Corey graves. Talk about drew McIntyre and say it's about Damn Time Corey graves also said something about brock listener that rings so true and listen. Nobody complained. Nobody is bitch more than I did with brock last time when he was champion and how we hardly defended the title. This is why they have brock listener atop was for the scenario that we saw played last night and Corey Graves said it perfectly. It doesn't matter how how many times he defended the title. It doesn't matter how many times we see him on TV. Look with Brock. Listener gives us and he gave it to us in droves last last night nobody else on the roster could do like Brockton just like ten years ago nobody can do on the roster. John Seen did only certain wrestlers wrestlers at certain. Times can give you that big match feel and right now that guy's brock lesser and you're right. He did more than just. Make drew McIntyre entire. He may eighth Keith Way. He gave you moments that we're going to look back on for decades and that claim work you couldn't have said it better. No hands adds up directly square in the face over the top rope being eliminated snapshot. There's moment there's your picture there's drew McIntyre's ticket to wrestlemainia thirty six. It's completely it's factually true. And the psychology of the beginning of the match. Dave if you remember last week when we talked about brock entering I I I kind of tried to explain to you when you have a certain talent talent who is so over and he'll who is so hated now. Brock isn't so hated. It's just that people WANNA see Brockett. His ass kicked or get eliminated donated. Every single person that came to that ring. Meant something every person that came to that ring with her as the first six seven eight entrance you want want to see them do something to brock and just when you got your hopes up even just a tiny tiny bit bang they were gone and then they start to tell all the small story you see you see Biggie and Kofi and who was it. There was one more person ganging up on Brock. Oh it was right. Yeah Yeah because he hit the day did they all hit their finishers. There you go so you got ray who has an issue with brock and Kofi who has an issue with Brock and obviously big. He's GonNa have the issue with brock because the coffee and now all of a sudden you think Oh my God. They're building up to three way with a three way. Three of them are going to eliminate brock and brock ripston ripston carpet. Right out from underneath you. It's a good old fashioned heat spot and wrestling Wham when you've gotten to the highest of the high the the he'll pulls the rung out from under you and you're at the lowest of the low. You're like wait a minute. We were just kicking his ass. How did all three get eliminated? Takes away and the booze keep going up and up and up and there's and then and then here comes Shelton and now that's Brock's best friend what's GONNA Happen here don get out here see by you mean nothing to me too by the way. How great because in between the Zarre bizarre was hitting those uppercuts? And you're like wait a second doc. And then like you said Brock just turns it around disposes of Cesar pretty quickly. But what a great story with Shelton Benjamin because great job by the commentators. There's as well telling about the history between Shelton and brock listener and it was masterfully played and they're hugging each other. And then you're like all right Brock's going to turn and he didn't they hug again brock and then they hug again and then brock turns on him and disposes them over the top rope again. A great story and as you said the booze. Just get louder. So they're building and they're building and they're building and what were they building for. who were they building? Four drew McIntyre no keithly true they were building for Keithly keithly and here comes keithly. And what are the people doing. Well I mean everybody was on their feet emotionally emotionally invested in that moment. The moment that you've been preaching here for weeks that you wanted to say and I was wrong. I said man. Dan keithly needs to win it or Keith. Ni keithly needs to eliminate brock. And you always said no no all you need. Is that stare down and you probably needed is a little bit more. You needed Kief to knock off his feet. But that's all you needed to do to create a superstar and they created a superstar in keithly people who don't Watch T. 'cause there's only two seven hundred thousand fans that watch all those people who watched a rumble last night now now know who keithly is and that was the business of the moment build up the front end of the match for Keith Elise entrance buildup keithly and brock face to face build up for Keith. Lee Knocking Brock off his feet to you. Know how credible keithly it becomes knocking rock. Lesin Ruffy he takes that back to entertain him. All that stiffly stock went up last night. Did keithly go over in the royal rumble. Now he didn't keithly get over in the royal rumble one hundred percent mission mission accomplished. And that's it folks people who were bitching and moaning about keithly And then I had some people telling me no. It was keithly and drew McIntyre they got themselves over morons. Nobody gets themself over. You need somebody to do it for you. Take brock listener out of the equation and nobody gets over in that match last night. Brock is the date is directly responsible for making keithly last night and making being drew McIntyre. Michael you're hearing catch busted open. Live Monday through Saturday from nine. AM to noon eastern on Sirius. XM fight nation in a one fifty sticks or on-demand with the Sirius Xm APP. There was still an amazing surprise and a shock when we saw Ed's last night at the royal rumble symbol. Obviously on a personal level. I could not have been happier for one of my brothers On a professional level boom. That's how it's done. That's a pop. That's a return. That's when you know every single person in that arena loves you. You have complete total and utter emotional emotional investment. I always tell people when they ask for advice. What should I do get over which I do? You hit it over. I don't know just get over edge in his career dot over. Is anybody coming close to pops like that in the wwe me right now. No not right now I mean comparable was what we saw at the end of the night but other than that as far as entrance into the rumble. No nobody came close to get in the pop like edge. Got and that's what you that's what you strive for those type of reactions every single time. Obviously it's a big surprise and coming coming back so the pop is going to be that much bigger but that is what it sounds like Dave. We came back with the audio of veges entrance. And you hear the sound happens at the same time and you only get that type of sound when forty thousand people or twenty five however many people it is all scream and pop at the same time. It's like a wave and I gotta tell you man. Uh I've experienced it myself and it takes you out of your game. It's so overwhelming to hear that. And he got double the amount of people that I got to get in Philly. There was twenty thousand. He got forty thousand lands that wall of sound from pop hop hits you and no matter how psychologically sound you are and calm you are about going to that ring when that pop hit you in the face you know. It's almost tunnel vision. You don't even know where you are. You can't grab a hold yourself because you're adrenaline rushes so hard. I bet you if we get to talk to him you know maybe this week or next week at ever he'll tell you that the the rush of energy that comes over you you almost forget going to the ring. You're on complete auto pilot pilot in that ring because you're so overwhelmed with emotion good emotion however I know they missed the first couple of the first spear there's some video out there on on social media comes in spear spear does a little stuff to drew boom spears drew off to a hell of a start I thought it was a great rumble French. You know. That's interesting because you're bringing up your experience when he came back in Philly at the rumble and I'm sure you expected big reaction no doubt but it really does take you off your game Like you even expect a big reaction. It's still kind of like I guess for a second humbles. You is the best way to describe it. I don't know I don't know if it humbles. You know what it did to me. It's scared me. Wow you know why it scared me because when I when I went out there and I got hit by that wall of sound I legitimately said Fuck. I can't remember anything. Wow it it knocks you on. It's like getting punched in the face and you're out on your feet. That's what it felt like to me and it's an amazing feeling feeling the rush is like I don't even know. I guess it's euphoric but like I said it also scared me because Dave we talked on the we've talked so many times about blowing up in the ring right you could either blow up physically because you're not in ring shape in your lungs can handle it breath in like a whale Tommy Dreamer joke or you can blow up mentally and mentally blowing up is the worst because you instantly black out and that wall of sound that hit me man. I instantly blacked out. I was blown up before I even got to the ring. I can't even remember what I did. In the rumble match. I have to go back and watch chit so like. I can't even imagine what those forty thousand people sounded like where it felt like for edge and I'd love I'd love to get him on the show just to ask ask them that question. What did that wall of sound feel like now? It might have been a little different because it an open air arena. When and I don't know if they had the dome open now is as far as I know is open so what happens is the sound travels up so it might not have hit him the same way to hit me anyway? Insane insane pop great showing for edge. He was one of my picks to possibly win it. But I'm glad that they went withdrew and not edge definitely a great eight moment. Let's discuss it with the busted open. Let's go out to will in Fort Worth will. Would you WANNA say about. Brock and drew McIntyre Listen Brock. It's a Lotta lot of shit for. Oh He's not around a lot and he doesn't sell for people all he does is suplex people. Listen when he wants to sell them put someone over He. Does it almost better than anyone. His Daniel Bryan match his. Aj Styles match now this when he wants to he can really put someone over. And it's about time. We've been waiting for drew McIntyre to get on the scene for what since two thousand nine when he was christened the one and now they're finally doing what's it's right this is storytelling at its best. I wish wwe can do this on a consistent basis. I don't know why they can't but Kudos to them. They they got it right. This is why like wrestling. There's wide wrestling fan. Well that's a great call and I think that's why we're all wrestling fans and it also. That was a wonderful night for the. WWe Hard to complain about some of the things that happened last night in that rumble. Very interesting choice of words By well who just called in he said when brock wants to brock wanting to wanting to make it personal. It's as if brock says. Oh you know this guys WanNa my chosen ones so I want to sell for him. That makes it a little selfish instead of want to I will substitute means something brock cells when it means something something when Brock knows that it's good for business if brock those that something is going to do good business. That's when the time is right. He we've seen him do great business with Daniel Bryan with Ramos Stereo with just about everybody last night. He did off the chart business because he knows that claim more that eliminated him from the rumble. Means something it means dollar signs minds to the potential drew versus Brock match at Wrestlemania. Yeah and I think what we're going to see happen at this year's Wrestlemania is going to be completely different than what we saw. At last year's Wrestlemainia wrestlemainia started at Seth rollins and brock listener and Seth Rollins Beep Rock Lester won the championship. AMP chip and everybody was excited. But didn't really do anything for Seth. I think it was more about that. People want the debt title off Brock than actually on. Seth and I think the proof is in the pudding shooting. We're here. We are a year later and Seth rollins comes out at thirty and you can hear a pin drop. I don't think that's going to be the case for Jim. McIntyre Dave as of right now do you WANNA see. Drew McIntyre win the championship or Broccoli lose the championship. You WanNa see. Drew McIntyre win the championship. Yes you do last year we just wanted to see it off of brock this year. We want to see drew win. And that's emotional title control. The baby faces more loved than the he'll is hated and last year the he'll was hated more than the baby. Face was loved if you don't know Sirius Sirius. XM THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They had it all a lot of people. Think you need a car to enjoy Sirius. Xm But you don't. You can listen outside the car right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just one dollar just go to Sirius Xm dot com slash busted to offer details and to subscribe. You can listen on your phone at at home and online that Sirius. Xm Dot com slash busted offer available to new siriusxm streaming subscribers Sirius xm no car required. Did you like the the way. Charlotte eliminated Shayna. But first of all I like to show of strength just how strong Charlotte flare is when she was holding that top rope. nope I don't know I wasn't in love with it. They might occur. Did done something a little bit better. But I didn't mind it and I think the right right woman one. I'll agree with the right WIMP woman winning. I felt it made Shayna look just a tiny bit corny Oranje because she was tangled up with with Charlotte in the ropes. Then she moves away then. She goes back and Charlotte's able to flip over. I wish they would've done it in a different way. And I don't know if they were trying to protect Shayna without Charlotte. Hard eliminating her allergist tossing in her over the top rope. I think they wanted to make make it look like a desperation final attempt by Charlotte and Shane just got caught so to speak. And then you know the look on his face when it was all over I just felt like Charlotte was hanging there a little too long. Like if I'm Shayna I'm if I'M GONNA I'm just GONNA walk over to Charlotte and I'm GonNa kick her in the hands or I'm going to try to pry her fingers offer or something like that. Now that's what they might have done. I don't remember the exact little thing that happened but Charlotte flipping over. And then you know. Shane is a shoot fighter. You Know Yeah Yeah. I probably would have done the elimination a little bit differently. I thought it just I. I know they were trying to protect after I just don't think he protected her in the right way nonetheless agreed right woman went over. Shayna should not have won the royal rumble. Everybody who's out there on social media. That wasn't the time or the place for her to win. Good showing by her thought thought the elimination could have been thought. Thought out a little bit better and I know people are nervous about Charlotte for the reason that right now. They're looking at Charlotte and they're looking at Becky and are saying we've been down this road a million times. Maybe there's a little fear that Ron is going to get back involved. Then you're gonNA see a rematch of what we saw last year. I looked at it this 'cause I actually thought OSCO was going to be becky because I would not have minded see in Charlotte and Oscar again resume now people say. Hey We've already seen in that but don't forget that was probably the best match at Wrestlemania. Thirty four was the match between Oscar in Charlotte win of Vine. Seeing that again and again we have a lot of time between now and Wrestlemainia thirty six. A lot can change. Doesn't necessarily mean we're going down. I'm the same road that we went down before though it kind of looks that way right now and I'm more than willing to sit back and see how this all plays out with the women's division. WHO's going to end up in the main event women's matches for mania? I don't have a problem with Charlotte flare going over at all to tremendous of an athlete and a great wrestler to think that. That's not a good move to go now. That being said she may have have been the winner but I think the MVP from last night's rumble. Match was Beth Phoenix I love what Beth Phoenix than did in rang. You talked about. I'm trying to pry those fingers. She was doing with actually biting on the fingers to try to eliminate her and then she gets busted open in the back of the head early and you just saw little by little her whole head of hair turn red one hell of performance by Beth Phoenix last night. You know I put out on social media that Charlotte went over but Bianca and Shane dot over. A A bunch of people tweeted me and Beth Phoenix. She got over to Beth. Phoenix doesn't have to go over and Beth Phoenix doesn't have to get over to you. Know why Dave she's a hall of Famer and that means he's already over end end of story. She's in the hall of fame tremendous showing last night warrior out there like we we were. You actually guys texted me. And you're like is somebody bleeding. Whatever for second there was so much blood in Beth Phoenix's hair that I tweeted? I texted you guys back and I'm like wait that she dyed her hair red that I'd miss something. She there must have been some Nice Gash that open in her head for that much blood to who have come out she. She trucked right on through honestly. I think of a referee would have tried to get out of there. She would have just decked the referee not stopping me. I mean the rumble. I'm in for a while. It's not like I'm here for a cup of coffee. I'm here to mean something. GET OUTTA my way. I mean Richard Warrior. It's amazing for somebody who's already in the hall of fame. Who's WHO's like a surprise entrance supposed to be like a feel good moment? Having Beth Phoenix out there may have been one of the best moments of her career coming after in fact she's already inducted into all she's won championships. Believe me. She has done amazing things in the ring. But when I think of Beth Phoenix moving forward. I'm going to think of that time. I'm that she had in the ring. Busted Open just just plowing through knowing that she's not even GonNa be at the end of Victor because she there is no way she was GonNa win. That and no one was expecting her to win that her career is over. She was in there as as as just a surprise moment at the rumble and to do what she did in just somebody that was just being used for a quote unquote feel good moment at the royal rumble. Amazing Performance Mormons. Bhai Beth Phoenix. She is definitely worthy of being called the hall of Famer and she's there to help other people get over. Yes and that's exactly what she did. That was her job last night. That's what she got paid for mission accomplished. And you're right as far as who with when it comes to Bianca Bianca. Belair Shayna Baiser. They're both in much better spots than they were this time yesterday because of their performances last night Bianca Belair to me stood out above. Everybody else I don't even care that Charlotte went over to me the MVP of that women's match was Bianca Belair. She had the best showing doing last night. I'd rather be Bianca Bel Air today than Charter Fair because I got over and now you're gonNA. She's going to tell you if anybody has keithly everybody with the upside annex t I could probably make an argument for Bianca Bel Air having more upside right this very moment than anybody else in annex t yes I mean even over your annex t champion Rea- Ripley correct because I look at Bianca Bel Air and we talked about Rio rippling. This is not a disrespect to Rio Ripley. I feel in some factions. She's is not quite there yet. We saw her on the microphone and she seemed a little loss. Bianca bellairs. The is the real deal. I mean you're talking about the total package. That's Bianca Belair. She is a superstar. She has superstar written all over. And I'm glad that she had that moment last night to show the world how good she really is. And when we talk about rea- Ripley Ripley and say you know. She's kind of lacking on the MIC. A little bit. That little bit means a whole lot. Because if you're not good on on the stick you're never going to survive at the top of the food chain for for your entire career. You have to be able to talk you have after so. That's where we need to improve so I mean Bianca to me right now. Listen if I if I were to sit down and put her entire act under a microscope. I'm sure I could find you things that she needs to work on but right now just looking at it from surface value I believe Bianca. Belair Blair has the biggest upside in annexed. Now she has a match. What rea- Ripley for two for the NFC championship at the next takeover? I'm wondering if Vince McMahon man was watching that rumble last night and by it was probably say my God I can do what Bianca Bel Air on Monday night raw. I believe that Ah Bianca Belair has definitely caught. The eye of Vince McMahon and it if for nothing else it's her entrance. Vince is a mark for entrances. Like that that larger than life kind of entrance like watching her skip to the ring with that look on her face and those big hoop earrings and her swinging her hair. That's it she's a star because because she's making you pay attention to her the minute she comes out she he has grabbed you by the jugular. The minute you come out she commands your attention the minute she comes out that's star and she has that that new are you are your interest you are into Bianca Belair before she ever does anything. Physical agreed to the point where a lot of people people sleep on. How good she is just because they think she's all show and she showed last night she's more than just that man? She really is the total package. And that natural rea- Ripley is going to be interesting. Because did they put the championship. I'm Bianca Bel Air or do we see the next night. Her moving to either roar smackdown Mac down because man. I'm telling you right now. They're my vince. McMahon might be thinking about that decision as we speak never know. Oh but I don't Wanna see but like I said I've said this before I don't WanNa see too. Many people get yanked annexed because you could definitely get lost in the shuffle angry. I but I don't think Bianca Cabal airs. Somebody that could get lost in the shuffle. Becky almost got lost in the shuffle. True but I think Bianca Belair has more of the IT factor than even Becky Lynn Chat on an xt. Oh all all they come I could hear the tweets from rolling in right now to you. Wow all those. Becky fans are about to assassinate you on Social Media Michael. You're hearing catch busted open. Live Monday through Saturday. Hey from nine. AM to noon eastern on Sirius. XM Fight Nation Channel One fifty six four on demand with the series. XM APP man. One Hell of a match between the fiend Bray Y and Daniel Bryan. I think it shows how good Daniel Bryan is and I think that was the Bray Wyatt match. As far is his like Solo matches the match of his career in the wwe good chemistry between the both of them enjoyed the match. The strap stipulation collation every once in a while and put a bit of a hindrance on guys like that who can do so much it. Didn't I enjoyed it and to everybody who thought that the fiends powers would be taken away by the lack of the red light. You're wrong but I did like it. Better without the red light on. Even though I was a big proponent for the red light earlier in the beginning because I thought he needed that different feel but I I will be the first to admit I did not take the red light and I'm glad they didn't have it on last night. Yeah The red light really. Didn't bother me like a bothered other people but I do agree that it's so much better by not having that red light. It's not distracting at all and honestly with that Red Light. You wouldn't have seen the beating that Daniel Bryan took. It is back in his arms. That's you know just looking Ed out and really hearing how hard hitting that was. That would have been totally lost if they had the red light to anybody out there who thinks pro wrestling sleep is fake. Go back and watch Bray Wyatt whipping Daniel Bryan with that leather strap and then fake yourself. His back his arms his elbows Daniel Bryan Ryan took a beating and again I you know with the fiend and when you have a over the top personality and character like that. It's kind of tough but man I thought they played well and and the strap like you said usually that could be a hindrance. It wasn't it added to the match. and honestly you really don't see brutal all matches like that in the WWF. You know I mean we always complained about the hell in a cell matches in the cage matches where it doesn't really get that brutal. That was a brutal Matt. Hard hitting brutal matchup between those two last night and like you said nothing fake about that. Listen if you go back and you watch strap matches from the past. They always are brutal and they have to be because the whole gang of the matches that strap coming into play and I liked liked the way they built up the psychology because when January. Brian had that cross face are what does he call it the Lebel Yup when he had the Lebel Abell lock on the fiend with the leather strap in the fiends mouth people were buying in. They thought that might have been it. They rolled out they got out of. It was good way like I said the only thing I would have done differently in that match is takeout Daniel Bryan whipping Bray Wyatt and Bray Wyatt. No selling those Those strap shots because what they did in the Becky match right after and let me tell you this you can go into a match like that and you know tell the tell the other guy. Hey laid in brother. Don't worry about it. Getting hit with a chair is one thing getting hit with a Kendo stick. Dick one thing that strap once you get hit with it like three times it puts you in a really bad mood. It's a different kind of pain like I've been whacked with a chair a hundred times and you could suck that pain up. I get hit with a Kendo stick. I could sucked sucked pain up. I get hit with just about anything when you get that. Strap it you it almost. It's a different kind of reaction you it's almost like I. I wouldn't be surprised. If if one of them stiffed each other with a punch in the face because you're so reactionaries. Like damn that puppets things that strap man and it it hurts. It really does especially when you get whipped in the same spot like two or three times Italian man. It don't tickle. It's a different kind of pain than chair shots in Kendo shot. You're going through tables. It's more of A. It's almost like an annoying pain that rips rips through you and it makes you want to react in a different way and this is one of those times who is a wrestling fan. And I was a little afraid that this match was gonNA get lost in the shuffle shuffle because of all the big moments that we saw last night. That's why I wanted to give it some time to talk about it today because it deserves it because it was a great match and I'll get back into the Fienberg wide and the second. Let's talk about the annual. Brian and I actually had this discussion with Alex. Mets before the show and I had this discussion with Mark Henry weeks and weeks ago when it came to Daniel Bryan man and joy him every time. He's in the ring because there was a time bully that we thought that we weren't going to see him in the wwe ring again and now here we are seeing him in a strap match. Getting just brutalized strapped bleeding welts on his back on his elbows elbows on the back of his arms. Daniel Bryan man when we talk about some of the greats of all time. You're going to have to throw Daniel Bryan's name out out there. This guy's a first ballot whole famer when he decides to hang it up at the end of the day and he gets overlooked and he shouldn't man he is definitely wanted to grades and we really honestly sit celebrate every time is in the ring because he is one of those guys that gives you a thousand percent each time he steps through those ropes in that first power bomb that Bray White Cave Daniel Bryan. That referee was a little nervous. He checked on Daniel Daniel Bryan real quick that was that power was snug. It was tight it was there and just something like that with a guy like Dante. Well not like Danny with anybody who's prone to a head injury to a concussion once you've had one you'll always be susceptible table trust me. I even like Winston like say Ooh out loud just because it was tight it was. They're glad glad. I got Daniel Bryan fricking as a warrior. I mean if you go back and you watch his ring of honor matches like the just. The stiff fasts that he used to have against everybody else. Cering of honor I mean brother lay his shit in and take it back. So yeah your job. Both guys and the fiend Bray Wyatt and and Bray Wyatt is somebody nobody. I've always liked but I never really thought he had that match that match ragged say man. That was great. Awesome moments matches as far as the Wyatt family's concern. Turn him on his own. I never really saw that. Wow match from Bray Wyatt. Last night for me was his well match and the best of his his career does that match last night. Kind of wash away. The bad taste that cage match seth with the referee stopping the match and that whole bullcrap that they gotta go through. If last night was a flop like we saw what Seth rollins than you and I would be talking today about. Maybe they should consider doing something. Something a little bit different with the fiend and Bray Wyatt. And let's let's make sure we preface it with the flop of a match with Seth rollins and Bray. Wyatt had nothing to do with Seth Rollins Abrasive. No it didn't do the right college. That was dictated to them and the story that the company wanted told and how it did not go the right way and did not come off the right way to fans so much show that the wwe had to do damage control. Yes and and and thinking that maybe this personality in this character was more of for distraction than what it should be and I think we we we set it. The Red Light being gone was definitely a big help. But now I'm back into Bray. Why because some of the talk walk not only on this show but on social media was you know? Maybe we're getting a little long in the tooth with the with the fiend character. I feel completely Louis Different about that character. After the match last night you needed that match last night to rejuvenate that personality and character in the fiend. What he's able to do with the fiend vignettes and all the characters bat stage in the you know the personalities it's so so much depth to it and then you get to the ran his entrance and then you get to the ring and when the bell rings it's just a wrestling match again? So how do we keep the fiend and as the wrestler as intriguing as the fiend the character the persona. It's not easy because when the lights are on and the bell rings okay. Okay Russell and I think braise doing a great job especially last night performing as the fiend and seeing that vicious side to him so you know what to and this is where you gotta give Kudos and this is why it's important commentating like Jerry lawler to me you know can be a little over the top and I've seen that in some of the compensating with somebody matches and I don't think the commentating dating worked with that match. It did last night like I really do. Believe that when you get the right commentators calling that matchup up it helps that this is where commentators really can help you buy into the story. Help you buy into a character and help you buy into a personality. I I saw some people on social media wonder. Why the referee didn't show as much concern for Daniel Bryan when he had the mandible claw on on him and he appeared to be out as the referee did for Becky Lynch and he thoughts on that? It's perfect storm. I think you're right. I think it's The red light being gone. The referee not being over the top and concerned like he was in the mattress. Seth Ron's lesson learned and the commentators buying more into what the matches and then. The supernatural supernatural character. That's defeat it takes a perfect marriage of all those things to make a match work and I really do think that was well. Played last night with Daniel Neil Bryan and Bray Wyatt job. Yeah really really good job. Let's go back out to the busted. Open let's out the Darien in. Houston Darren tell us about the rumble. The last night man you were there yeah man. The rumble was awesome. Uh I would say the edge. Pop was amazing. I've never been a pardon stuff so loud. And Darien I think too and this is what's great about it as well bullying. Is that in a way. We kind of experience. There was a lot of rumors about edge. But when you saw it's come out you got lost in the moment and all those conversations from before that moment you completely really forgot you get caught up in the moment and that's what's great about pro wrestling as soon as you heard You think you know me. The crowd went crazy. No matter what you you know they could have told us he is coming. And I think it's still would have been that loud so it was awesome being a part of that energy. Same Branca's go through everybody. It was crazy easy. And let me ask you this because you are there in the crowd. was that crowd up from the start of that show to the end of that show like you know. was there that energy the entire night for sure. I think the only time we sat down really was our legs. Were getting tired not because we were bored. You know sucks out all the energy cheer in top of your lungs. Spur five six hours so it was worth it. I got the La- Greg ahead snuck in during the pre show. It was a great weekend. Oh wait a second. You're the one the Liberec ahead. Yes Sir all right. I saw it in the pre show and Diane tell me if I'm wrong. I spotted as well during the falls. Count anywhere we're a match with Corbin. Thought may cow man. I got my eye out for that. Darian Kudos to you. My friend much appreciate it. And I highly suggest maybe don't do your power rankings anymore. They sound bad for your health. C. IS GONNA get your only going to get you know know. Aw Barre now. Don't you in the back of the head with a shovel and buried. See this is the difference between you and me you being a bad guy me being a good guy because Darien was not saying it as a crossword about my power rankings DARRIEN. Tell me if I'm wrong. You actually set it because you know how upset and passionate I am about it and now I could have a heart attack and how bullying fights me on it. It's more about a concern for me physically the power. Explain that the bully much agree. I think bullying is always going to get you at any point. So even if it wasn't for the power rankings he'd find an excuse you know what Darian thank you see. Darien gets it right because again if I had box Lee at five you you a bitch about that. And so with the nation urinate you'd better you Martin's I didn't say put Moxie at five. Alex did yes I did. He's right said put Keith lead five. Yeah but you didn't and say that until after the break so what you know what does in a what bully you said when I gave my power rankings. You actually said you know what not GonNa kill you this week on it. It's good but you couldn't help yourself. You could not help yourself instead. You said it's a feel good day great weekend of wrestling. You know what I'm going to give you a moment I'm not gonNa give you shit. But what do we do. We take a break we take a little bit of breathing and then you come right. You can't help yourself so you despise honestly don't like me I think it's a parent honestly. I wanted Alex to have his moment today because I knew he was so Viet mealy against sure number five and then once he did. I just felt like dog pile and on also why not kick you when you're down. It's what I'm good at. Thanks for listening catches Monday through Saturday. I'm combusted open from nine A._M.. To noon eastern on Sirius X._M. by nation chant 156 busted open podcast.

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Brock Lesnar in the Royal Rumble & RAW Recap

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Brock Lesnar in the Royal Rumble & RAW Recap

"If you don't know Sirius. XM THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They have it all and right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just US one dollar go to SIRIUSXM DOT com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe offer available to new series. Xm streaming subscribers SIRIUSXM. No car required. This is the busted open podcast. You can listen to the full show Monday through Saturday from nine. Am To noon eastern on Sirius Sexism Nation Channel One fifty six welcome to the busted open. podcast this is Greg on today's episode. Wwe W. E. Hall of famer bully. Ray and I looked back at Monday night raw from last night and now it started with rock listener and Paul Heyman and Paul Heyman telling the WWe WWe universe that brock is going to be not only in the royal rumble but the first entrant in the royal rumble. What's going to happen there? Plus we speculate. Who could be the surprise entered at number thirty in this year's royal rumble also fully as he usually does causes a little controversy meet throws out the name Siham punk could this be all leading to see 'em Pumpkin Brock Leser Wrestlemainia thirty six and speaking of the rumble? We get into Oscar Mbeki. We know we're going to see at this year's world all that right now on the bus. There's a a lot of things that are very intriguing about what we saw last night and we start right at from the star which at the beginning we knew it. We talked talked about it yesterday. Brock listener and we got Brockley. They're an eugene announcement from Paul Heyman. Yup Brock is entering the number one in the rumble interesting. Yeah it speaking of that. Let's go to Paul Heyman for Monday night. Raw last night. How `Bout OPRI single solitary challenger that wants Brock let's third royal rumble can have PROC lessner at the Royal Rumble Because Ladies and gentlemen? Here's your official announcement. My client rock lessner Hugh by by enters the royal rumble match just enters the royal royal rumble marriage. That would kinda make history. Let's go all freaking way. My Client Brock lessner doctors the royal rumble back. I oh so brock. Laser is not only your wwe champion champion. He's entering the Royal Rumble and entering the Royal Rumble. In the first spot now he talks about history going back to history and not that far back two thousand and sixteen a Roman reigns as your. WWe world heavyweight champion. He defended his championship at the rumble. He was the first entrant. Lost a triple h and triple h became your champion. And that led to their match at wrestlemania thirty two where Roman reigns successfully. We've got that championship back. But interesting call from Brooklyn is there any he didn't. I didn't hear Paul Heyman. Say He's defending the title at Wrestle at at at the royal rumble why would why would brock lesser not only enter himself into the royal rumble but enter himself as the first entrant to royal rumble. Okay before I answer your question of y I'm GonNa ask you a question sure. Are you intrigued. That brock lessner has entered himself in the royal rumble. Yes are you intrigued. That brock listener has entered himself number one in the royal rumble. Yes are you going to tune in to see what happens with the royal rumble as Brock. Lessner your first participant. Yes mission accomplished end end of story right there. Just those little tidbits right there. Brock is entering the rumble at number one. If you're intrigued need that means you're gonNA tune in now what they give us is gravy. Why would brock listener the WWe champion be entering the royal rumble at number one? Well now I'll answer the question. It's really quite simple. Who should be challenging brock listener right now or who could be or WHO's intriguing enough to challenge them right now? Who's the credible person on the raw roster that you'd think at this very moment as of rural last night I could stand in the ring with brock where you actually think? They have a shot of beating him. There's there's a couple of potential candidates give me a name I can't there is not. You just said there's a bunch of potential and I feel like I drew McIntyre could see at some point being somebody that could be. You know a a credible challenger to brock listener but right now it's hard for me to pick one name off that Roh roster I say definitively this is the guy theft rollins could be but you know again. Even though Seth rollins beat brock listener twice. I don't know if I'm that intrigued in that matchup right now with seth rounds and brock listener so I really don't have one name where I can definitively say this is the guy who should be facing brock listener for the championship EPA chip at Wrestlemainia. Now imagine you were in a creative meeting and imagine you got called upon and that was the answer you gave. Because that's probably the most people are giving. We can't figure out who the one guy is to put on the marquee against Brock for the Royal. Rumble I understand what. You're saying withdrew because drew looks the part and we WANNA see drew. Get this push and then do more withdrew. But they're in a transitional stage richer. They're turning drew baby face little by little that three to one gimmicky hit before he Before he hit his whatever mafia kick is that stiff kicked face. He's GonNa get that over. He should be doing that three to one every single time time he does the claim more. So you gotta give that a couple of weeks to get over so drew. I think they are priming him but they gave him some Mike Time last night. They gave a quick squash. Wash match against Jose No Way Jose they had a minute to claim more again. He'll definitely be in the rumble. He'll definitely make some kind of impact in the rumble. Hopefully it comes they. He comes out of the rubble would something but brock being number one is very intriguing. Because if you're Brock Leser and Paul Heyman and you're looking this from a storyline point point of view. I'm the WWe champion. Just as Paul said in the Promo there are no challengers are no credible challenges. So we have no no credible challenges. We're GONNA try to do the most credible thing we could possibly do. We're GONNA win the royal rumble as the WWe champion. And oh by the way. We're we're not gonNA take the punk ass route and hope we get number thirty. We're going to take the warrior route and enter ourselves at number one and I'm going to eliminate the every single person that comes in that ring and I'm going to win the royal rumble. Rock listener were to win the royal rumble. What would he most likely challenge for He would challenge for the Universal Championship. It's the only other championship he can challenge for right. So maybe we get a universal championship first. WWe Me Championship at Wrestlemainia. In a unification match. I don't know that for sure. But that is one possible out with brock listener in the Royal Rumble title. Let's take another scenario which I personally love. If Brock enters at number one and brock eliminate a significant. The amount of guys Maybe he eliminates more guys than tain ever eliminated. Because CAIN has the record for elimination right. doesn't have like eleven. I I think I think cain overall when you look at all the royal rumbles I think he has the the most eliminations more than any other. I'm talking about in one particular rumble. Who has the most eliminations in any one rumble? I think it's Kane I have to go back and look I think I think at one point Shawn Michaels dead. I I go back and look okay. Hear what you're saying so on coming at one and eliminating everybody coming out the victor rock coming in at one and lasting all the way to the end how pissed off. or how much heat do you think Brock's going to have if he's able to do that especially if he eliminates all of the people that that you hope can beat him so if they build that rumble the right way. And let's say let's just use Ray for instance ray comes in for retribution and rate almost eliminates brock but then brock eliminates ray or whoever the next fan favorite is. It doesn't matter. Just pick a name bow to eliminate brock but brock eliminates them when number thirty hits. What do you think is GonNa Happen? especially if number thirty is a massive surprise and what if number thirty eliminates brock. Well you just set something up. That's probably first of all needed for Wrestlemainia this year and number two since I kind of answered your question at there really. Isn't anybody on the roster. That really gets me excited to face brock listener. There's your answer and Alex met sent out the tweet who could be thirty last night during raw. 'cause I think you hold the key right there. Whoever thirty is is probably going to be a big surprise and most likely will eliminate brock listener and set up your match for Wrestlemainia thirty six? Yes I think I. I think we're GONNA get a good surprise. And maybe that surprises not even number thirty but I think that surprise is going to have some some kind of a definitive role with brock listener. I think that they need it. You know why I think that they we need somebody significant coming back at the rumble. Why who is the mystery partner? Last night in the six-man big show why well I mean for his keys. Come back after a two year absence. He has a show that he wants to promote owed on Netflix. Sophy reasons why so we brought back. We brought back a veteran. I'M A I'M A. I'm a fan of show Gets a good little little reaction comes in. He's the one left standing at the end of the match. Who are we trying to push right now? Are we trying to push seth in the AARP Lord knows the AO P can use the boost. When I saw big show come out last night you know what I said to myself what I said good? Ao appeased leave big show laying and then at the end I saw show standing tall and I was like Whoa. Kate didn't understand why they went this route and I smacked myself in the face around my face into a brick wall and go Dr Interface Company. Yeah my point is look at what they're starting to rely on again. That veteran names they turn to big show. How come ricochet wasn't the partner last night? Because I mean you need that pop and big show at blabber but why can't shake that pop now when you see him every single week it becomes a little water down I mean first of all our power or is becoming less and less. Well let me ask you this bully because you bring up a really good point and you bring up that main event and big show being you know the surprise partner for Joe and for Owens going up against seth rounds and Ao pay. And you're right like I'm thinking seth rollins and are going to get a clear victory because that is who you're pushing. Obviously it's Seth rollins your former champion he got AARP or you know an re- revitalize the O. A. O. P. which they should be pushing. Then why did they end that match the way that they did last night because there really is no reason to push big show at this point I mean big show. We could do a whole show on big show and how he is on one hand a first ballot hall of Famer but on the other hand they've done considerable damage over over the years. Too Big show I mean. Why didn't we get a different outcome last night? Them what we did because on the to go off the air happy I now oh because they felt like Owen Jr Joe and big show needed the moment. Listen if you would've gave the moment to Joe. I'd be a lot happier about that because Joe returned last night. Wasn't that Joe's first match back. No he was in the he was in the ring last week but yeah he's just coming back from doing commentary coming back. Joe Could you something substantial but we got big shows knock out punch. I have a real problem with it. No but I know that. That's that's not the guy we should be running with the AO P needs to look like monsters right now and. I wish I could get really really into this on the show. Dave I really really do but I'm speaking from personal firsthand knowledge the LP there are plans for for the AARP they're a big plans for the AARP and last night. If we would have got the leaving big show laying that would have been in a great moment now. Maybe that's the plan for next week in this fistfight which I don't even know what it is or maybe that's going to be for the following week. Maybe this week the big show comes comes back and he leaves guys laying and maybe next week the Aarp GonNa Leave Him Ryan. I honestly thought last night. We're going to double power bomb big show and the the whole ring was going to collapse again. Something that got the P.. Over despise seth rollins calling them boys. What kinds of like shoot fighter killers though mock you out and then eat for lunch and being called boys? I'm not a fan of that personal opinion. I understand that all right There's a lot to get into especially with this announcement by Paul Heyman for brock listener. That he's entering into the royal royal rumble. I think the biggest thing and we need to start speculating his. If it's not going to be someone on the roster who could that surprise entrant bay and is it going to be just a showcase for Brockett the rumble. where he just goes to everyone is? They're going to be a surprise. Or is there somebody on the roster. Currently that could eliminate eliminate brock listener. And take that person to the next level also speaking of the rumble you said about. CAIN actually Roman reigns canes record with twelve eliminations at at the royal rumble so he currently holds the record for the most eliminations at the rumble. Shawn Michaels has spent the most time in the ring at the royal rumble so So you know. And it was caned at Roman reigns beat to get that twelve it was Cain with eleven. Didn't Ramos Therio beat that Shawn Michaels record. It's very possible. Well it's very possible. I have to go back and look this is all in my head. I thought Ray Ray La- lasted the longest longest time spent spent a single royal rumble. Longest time in the ring I know Shawn Michaels for years. Had that record now longest time spent in a single royal rumble will is ray mysterious one hour two minutes before that it was Chris. Benoit's with one hour and one minute currently if we're being diplomatic about Daniel Daniel Bryan holds the record with one hour and sixteen minutes but that was at the greatest royal rumble in Saudi. So I don't know if we're really counting that same with the most post eliminations Roman reigns holds the record with twelve eliminations in a single rumble. But if we're being Dick Diplomatic Braun strowman holds record with thirteen eliminations in the greatest royal rumble symbol in Saudi. I don't do we. Don't count the greatest royal rumble. But he's a royal rumble though. That's the and I know Shawn Michaels show Michaels and somebody else have won it at one with as the first entrance Shawn Michaels wanted as the first and Chris Benoit wanted as the first century as well a lot of records when it comes to the royal rumble. I'm I'm looking at the I'm looking at all the stats right now. Here do you think this is a really outside of the box idea and I thought about it last night. Also because they've they you did something weeks and weeks and weeks ago and they made us forget about it. Do you remember when Maven entered the royal rumble and eliminated the undertaker. Yes may even was made like in an instant right careered go sign after that but but for that moment in time he was made it was a big deal. Elimination is there any chance deal madden shows up eliminates brock listener sir. How would that go over like a Fart in church? No because you know because when you think of do madden what do you think. Think of right now if you if you're looking at the current state of the wwe. He was a guy who was a commentator got injured off a TV nobody nobody. I don't think the name deal madness. It is crossed anyone's lips since he's been off commentating Monday night raw. And that's the reason why I pulled it out of left field. I mean it's worth a reason reason why they did it when I last night. When Brock walked past the announce table and I saw heyman standing next to lawler? I was reminded reminded that that wasn't Joe and I was reminded that that wasn't do madden. I started to think I said. Wow what if. Do was the guy because it's worked before with Maven and I don't know what they're doing with Dio Madden I've heard scuttle but that they wanna get him scuttlebutt there's that word again. I've heard that they want to get him back in the ring. And if deal madden has a gripe with anybody it's going to be brock listener but I believe that would be a bit underwhelming it will usually go going with Dio Madden and Brock leads. There is. I don't think that's up anybody's Alice so you could tell the story at Wrestlemainia so mania that would that would be a lot. Eight seven seven three nine hundred eleven. No no no no no why would you do it a recipe and oh is that if you eliminate brock last and you get a shot. Well I mean if the winner the winner of the Royal Rumble gets gets the opportunity for a championship match d. I didn't say deal was GONNA win. I said would eliminate Bronx eliminate brock. Okay all right. I mean gene. Dave I think you were operating under the impression that potentially brock would be there at thirty. Well you know what I mean. That is that's definitely my speculation relation. That's I would be surprised if it's if it's if brock is not there at the end of the royal rumble. We brought up three scenarios areas. Just now right off the top of our heads. Brock Wins and challenges. Maybe the fiend for the universal title. That's another here's another thing with people wanna see that with people want to see brock in the fiend that Wrestlemainia Wrestlemainia thirty six. Honestly I would because I'd like to see the championships unified and I'd like to see Brock. DOC The champion period to me Brock is the most credible world champion in the wwe. I'm tired of the two belts. I've never been a huge fan because it's not very definitive and like I said that's just my own personal opinion. I understand why the WWE does it. There's multiple reasons why they do it. So each show has a champion so so merchandising Blah Blah Blah but I think brock as your unified universal champion for me for my taste as a wrestling Fan van is what I'd like to see Michael. You're hearing catch busted open. Live Monday through Saturday from nine. AM to noon eastern on Sirius. XM Fight Nation Channel One fifty takes on demand with the Sirius. Xm App this is where the speculation begins as we get closer to the royal rumble. After Brock listeners announcement it's been that he is entering the rumble as champion and the number one spot. So I think we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA definitely open up the phones a lot today. I'm and busted open to get the pulse of the bust open nation. Oh miss the Kata Kata I know I know I know my tweet. Last night with horseshoe underrated as characters. TV sitcoms I love welcome back on Vinny Bob Marino. Yeah Yeah we we can open up the lines if you if you get the answer right. I'm not going to let you know that. I think he got it right or anything like that. But I'll let them speculate. I will say this I think thirty is going to be a cool surprise. There's something that does kind of concern me. Though before we get to the nation bully is something that you said. And you've said it before and I'm going to be honest with you bowl you've said it and a lot of times James I kinda disagree I disagree with you a lot of times. I'm like I that's unfair but when you said it just now it was kind of a bit of a punch to the gut. And that's this that when I look at the the raw roster right now there really. Isn't anyone anyone that I could say can get into the ring with brock listener at Wrestlemainia and it be a wrestlemainia caliber. Main event. Do I think drew McIntyre has the potential. Yes but he's not there yet I think. He's in a transitional period for sure Alastair Black is somebody that may maybe in two thousand and twenty one. I'm saying that this guy is a main vendor at Wrestlemainia and I think that's his future. He's not quite there yet. Probably the most just over wrestler on raw right now is rousseff and that's because of all the shenanigans with lawn and not because of anything that's going on in the ring or you look at him. As a main event wrestler tessler raw is in a very very transitional period. Right now and there's nobody that I look at on that roster and say you know what I can't wait to see them in the main event for brock listener for the championship. So when you say it now it hits home because I think it's absolutely true if there was somebody a body on the roster that could stand in the ring against Brock right now at the royal rumble in a singles match. They would of book the match already but there is not one person on that roster as of right now from a character point of view that you believe can beat Brock laser. I know the I sure as hell don't believe there's anybody can be brock laser. Nobody has been built up and built up enough to beat Brock Lesnie. Nobody has is the layers that brock does. Nobody has the credibility that brought does I know there's so many people who listen to the show who hate the fact that we put brock over so much brock. It's put over 'cause brock deserves to get put over brock. Knows what the hell he's doing. And Brock is a credible champion. How is there anybody else on the Roh roster or the entire? WWe Dave who is as credible a champion as brock. Doc Lester no and and when you look at the universal championship that's part of smackdown. Defeating is a character it's a personality and its storyline driven. So you know you look at smackdown. Yeah Daniel Bryan. The Bay's you know I I it fits. Because it storyline. In the fiend is the perfect storyline align champion Branca's not a storyline champion. Brock listener is the ultimate credible champion. He's a the ultimate athlete with the mainstream appeal appeal. When it comes to Wrestlemainia it's either? You're taking a superstar to the next level or it's going to be somebody that's returning those two choices choices when you look at brock listener. And you look that Seth rollins last year. It made sense seth rollins this year. It doesn't make sense character thorir personality wise. Because he's a he'll we talked about the possibility of Brock. Maybe being a baby face but it doesn't look like that's happening right now especially after what we saw last night could they built something after the rumble. Maybe but we can only look at the facts that we're looking at right now. It's almost a foregone conclusion today. Hey that if the rumble winner is going after brock listener. It's going to have to be a shock and surprise and it's going to be somebody who's returning is Okada Oughta a credible champion. Yes storyline driven or in ring driven both but most like the more interesting yes about as entering performance right. Yep that's why boxer champion Brock is your champion. Because of his in ring matches his level level of credibility so many people is matches. It shits. No they're not his matches are brilliant. You just don't get it. You're just too wrapped up in internet and twitter their B. S. brock listener is a master storyteller in that ring. How do you know go back and listen to the people when he does false finishes when people get credible to count on them? You actually think they're gonNA beat Brock. Lesnik listen we could have the brock leser talked to death here. Brock is the guy because brock deserves to be see the guy now coming out of this rumble match. It will be interesting to see because I think number thirty is going to play an integral part in the rumble this year and if number thirty were to eliminate brock would they challenge brock or would they go after the universal championship trip to me. It's gotta be brock via some like I said before the fiend the storyline driven like the all the all the stuff that's going on with Daniel Bryan and the MS it storyline story line and also too. I don't see the fiend and I'm not talking about a lot of people think that there's been a lot of damage done to defeat. I'M NOT GONNA go there because it's a work in progress. I don't see the fiend defending the title in the last match at Wrestlemainia to me. That's not the ultimate main event of Wrestlemainia. Thirty six is the fiend and fill in the blank to me. It's Brock Leser and fill in the back and fill in the blank. Do you sure yup see people were wondering last night on social media about why brock why brock in the rubble Y Brockett number one. Well look at. How much conversation stationed we're having about it and look at all the possibilities that we're talking about that's why Brockett number one? That's why it's a good decision. You know who I wanna see the last two guys in the rumble this year. Who Bracken Randy and then hit number thirties music? Actually Randy is not not a bad name to throw out there. We talk about how ran. These always overlooked brock listener and Randy Orrin would actually be a damned good main event at Wrestlemania. Thirty six and there is unfinished business. There with a story and the story is about the receipt the receipt heard round the world. You took the point of your elbow and you deliberately Komo busted my skull open and I never forgot about that you bring that story back around. There's a lot of possibilities. Yeah I I know we gotta go with the younger guys Blah ident- that how many matches are scheduled for Wrestlemainia as of right now zero. How when in recent history or in history can you remember us being in January and nothing definitive for mania? Yeah it's it's usually right after rumble that you can really start putting a car together. But we couldn't even guess right now I mean they're honestly when it comes to the. WWe Is there a match you definitively WanNa see at Wrestlemainia like is there Mazzi. You're thinking Alex is nodding. Yes throw it out there mets Ron Becky. But but that's absolutely but here's the thing Alex and I get what you're saying as of right now ron does not part of the roster doesn't matter that's the match I wanna see eye care whatever ever you gotTa do to get that done at the royal rumble in two weeks three weeks whenever it is those two better be face to face in the middle of the ring set up but you know what if we're talking about possible returns earns. There's probably three or four matches. I can think of about possible so I mean we've weaver and you know probably where I'm going to go with possibilities thing undertaker dacre a couple of names out there that we can throw as possibilities. But I'm being completely honest as of right now when you look at the shows that you watch on Mondays as in Friday's and you look at the roster as it is today on January seventh are there any matches you definitively want to see at Wrestlemainia. Thirty six six ALEX I. The silence is deafening. Exactly answer is if you're going to me. I have an answer. My answer would be brock and Randy. Okay now I know that's probably not the popular answer but I'm just giving you an answer. It's an because the story story is there now. I could go down the card and look at a bunch of other guys that might be credible but credible for brock. I'm really not sure sure. And I really don't know who I wanna see against the fiend. Do we really WANNA see Daniel Bryan. We've seen it. We WanNA see Kofi again. I I may elite know. Maybe they could finally pull the trigger on this Ms. He'll versus baby-faced Daniel Bryan thing. That's being teased for three. What is it three years now and and we kind of got a little glimpse of that Ms? He'll on Friday night navy. A triple threat the MS Daniel Bryan and the but that does nothing for me. Dave see this is the problem. The three of us are talking right now and none of us are inspired by anything. Why because there's a lot of stuff that's going on? That is very uninspiring emotionally. Yes we got great athletes. Yes we know. We're going to get good matches. If we put the MS and in the ring with anybody anybody it's going to be a good match Daniel Bryan Kofi Brock. Listen we get that. They're going to be good matches. But I want something with depth. I want something with real consequences. I I want something with real emotion. I want something that's GonNa make a lot of sense. I want somebody to combat like Alex. You're right Ronda versus Becky is the match. The rest of the card is at all like Gimme that match on. They're ready to go. I'll sit through seven hours. I don't care that I'm not saying seventy seventy six and a half seven but yeah and I think we're going to get two or three really exciting returns at the rumble rumble. And I'm not even GONNA. I'm not even going to speculate about the names because I'm not GonNa ruin it for anybody. Although I bet I bet my our house on it okay and there are names that are floating around. There are a couple of names that are floating around about people that have been injured. That may be able to come back and MP a part of this wrestlemainia but again. That's speculation bully if you give me brock listener and Randy or in with the story about the receipt. After what happened in Brooklyn win at Summer Slam. I'm in but they're going to have to tell that story they're going to have to tell it the proper way and it's going to have to be something that's got a great bill going through resume. Any I don't enough. They'll be able to do that. Hell I love the story that they're giving us right now with becky and Aska but again it was forgotten about now. They're bringing it back. They're gonNA I have to do that in an even bigger way. Because it's now been years since what we saw with brock listener and Randy Orton. Did you see when becky actually aired the footage footage last night of her tapping to Oscar. Yes you think they listen to the show. Well I mean you're talking about something that happened. Eleven plus months ago That they're finally bringing to light and yes that was a big topic here if you don't know Sirius. XM THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They they had it all a lot of people think you need a car to enjoy Sirius. Xm But you don't. You can listen outside the car right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just one dollar. Just go what a Sirius. Xm Dot com slash busted to offer details and to subscribe. You can listen on your phone at home and online that Sirius. Xm Dot com slash plus did offer available to new SIRIUSXM streaming subscribers SIRIUSXM. No car required me buddy. Who's been listening to? This show knows that I can't let the undertaker go and maybe it's time for me me to do so though until it's all said and done I'm GonNa keep on doing it but you throughout see 'em punk and that's another other name. That's one of those names that we always throw out this time of year bully but now that you're throwing it out it has a lot more credence than it ever has done before. Four obviously with him being in in a in a sort of like backhanded way back in the wwe by being a part time host host on WWe backstage. Let me ask you this first bully. Do you think the return of CNN punked being a host on WWe backstage has been a successful one in his first week. Yes because the ratings dictated stated has been successful. I think it's already kind of fallen off a bit because of the infrequency that he appears and when he does does appear. Are we really getting this unfiltered. Just what's the right word. I'm looking for Dave besides unfiltered getting this unfiltered brutally honest cm punk that we thought we were going to get In some ways yes I think I think the biggest thing you said. Bully is the infrequency that he's been a part of this show if ah correct me if I'm if I'm wrong I think he's only hosted the show twice. I think twice to three times to maybe see to maybe blinker. I can remember. I think he's only hosted it twice so this has been the game that we all thought it was gonna be foreseen Pumpkin. I think it's actually hurt. Ah show that had a lot of potential before they even announced them punk is being part of it because I think I think the whole aura of that show and the fundamental of that show is is a really good one but now that like we thought punk who's GonNa be a bigger part of it and he's not. I think it's actually hurt that show in the long run but he is back in the world of pro wrestling and he's punk being punked not just by what he said on that show but over over the weekend he. He tweeted out and the ad on his instagram story. The original card for wrestlemainia thirty and how he was supposed to go up against triple h and the only reason why I think he would send something out like that is to keep himself relevant in the stir the pot a little bit Bollywood. Hollywood you agree with that stirring the pot. Yeah I think I think he's as as relevant as he feels he needs to be okay I think he's been involved a hell of a lot more and pro wrestling than he has been at all at any time over the last five years. It's not out of the realm of possibility that he could be a surprise entrant at the royal rumble. Do I think it's GonNa Happen. My answer would be no but it's much closer than any time in. Ask Five years. Let me ask you this bully if you were to get punk at the royal rumble. Wouldn't it be a little water down because because of his participation in WWe backstage no. I still think the guy holds onto a tremendous amount of credibility eddie. And I think that if there's hope that surrounds any one wrestler more than anybody else that's him. I think that no matter how many times we've come on this show and been like all right enough about punk because he doesn't want to do this anymore he wants to do. MMA or his heart's not really in it or he keeps saying forget about it like the even though he keeps keeps pro wrestling at more than an arm's length. I think that fans everywhere hope to see him back and the only reason I'm suggesting and seeing punk is not for the shock value of him being a surprise entrant. It's for the story that it could present present for Brock. Check this out like I said I'm just GonNa lay it out one more time. I'm going to layer. I'm GonNa lay it up. Just what one more part of the story sorry. Brock Standard by himself ended the match. He ran the gamut. Everybody's out who the hell is going to be number thirty punk music user kits. The place is GonNa go absolutely bat. Shit crazy yes or no it would what will the look on Paul Heyman's face be if see 'EM PUNK DOC is coming to the ring against his beast his jaw drop. Who else did Paul Heyman represent? Besides Brock Leser. He represented Siham punk now. He's got the two guys his biggest successes in the WWE will now be standing face to face. punk enters the ringed punk and Brock Leser are face to face that that hard camera shot shows you them face to face and splitting right in the middle is the look of horror blow hayme looking like Kevin from home alone with that look of horror on his face. Like what the Frick am I supposed to do now. Oh I never saw this coming. I'm Paul Heyman. I'm the master manipulator. I'm the master chess player. I can outworked anybody in the ring and in back and now I am face to face with a situation that not even I saw common and Punk Eliminates Brock Rock and then Challenges Brock for the championship. You don't think that that's a wrestlemainia main event that is going to put asses seats and by rate if if you announced today that you're GonNa get Brock Leser and see 'em punk at Wrestlemainia thirty six. It would be sold out before the end of the week. And and I'M GONNA I'm GonNa you know you talked about Hayman. Aiman also not only being with brock lists nobody was with CNN punk in the world that the wwe things go by so fast right and you kind of forget get things that have happened in the past more like you've kind of forget things that have happened just a couple months ago because there's so much wwe programming and there's so much going on in the wwe if you remember back in two thousand and thirteen is when Paul Heyman turned on punk for a returning brock listener. That was money in the bank. Two Thousand and thirteen. I'm going to be. There was a raw on July fifteenth at the Barclay Center. Where you had Paul Heyman and CNN punk go back and forth about that betrayal at money in the bank it may have been one of the best segments since in raw history? And I know that sounds crazy to say but you talk about emotional. You talk about like Paul. Heyman brought brought up his children in that segment with punk because he talked about. How punk was the ultimate rebel? Wouldn't do what Paul Call Him and asked him to do. And then he put all his faith and devotion into brock listener. You could bring that back up again. Hell if you want to bully you can turn the tables. You could have Paul Heyman turn on brock four returning Siham punk if you want to. There's so many directions that you go go into because now you're talking about two of the best ever on the microphone employ him and and see 'em punk. The build would be incredible edible. The Mike work between punk and Heyman would be incredible and you can bring a little bit of reality into it. If I had to bet a dollar I would say that Hayman has stayed in touch with punk throughout punks time away from the wwe because they were friends. If it wasn't for Paul Heyman consistently vouching for punk. I don't think punk would have gotten the opportunity. Paul was was punks biggest. Cheerleader and Paul New- that punk at times could be a bit difficult but saw the talent and punk just like Paul saw talent and all of his e C. W can you guys pause. Paul saw the things that the wwe could not see so if the Promo was was Paul. You're the number one guy who's been calling me for years you've been asking me you've been begging me. You've you've been pleading with me you've told me why should come back and now I'm finally here and you don't like who I'm here for well. Well that's too bad the cafeteria. What you wish for Paul because now you got it? I don't give a shit what anybody says on social media right now. I don't give a crap what everybody's saying about. Oh forget about punk punk this pump that we don't WanNa see this. Oh that that train has moved on whatever I just gave you an insane. Main event for Wrestlemainia. I just gave you an insane finish for the royal rumble. I just gave you a story I just gave you a build and I gave you a money making match. Listen whether or not this is gonNA happen. I have no idea but could you tell me Dave that that idea is bad or that that that idea wouldn't work with that idea would enjoy money. First of all the answer is a thumbs up and yes to anything or any argument you could possibly have about now putting CNN pumpkin ring with brock listener. Because you said it the bill would be incredible edible. Could you think of another better build than Pumpkin Broccoli with Paul Heyman in the middle between the two and the history that he has with both those wrestlers. I'm I'm GONNA give you. I'm GONNA give you an apples to apples comparison that you will be emotionally attached to. So let's see your answer. Would you rather see sting and take her or Brockton in punk. I would love to see sting and taker for the monumental just the spectacle of all at Wrestlemainia Wrestlemainia but when you add everything together that punk and brock give you. I would go with Pumpkin Brock. Because it's not only the match it's also so the bill towards that match and here's the other thing too. They've been in the ring together. If you go back do yourself a favor and go. Watch that Doe Oh D. Q.. Matched at punk and brock had at Summer Slam two thousand and thirteen obviously as the biggest undertaker fan. As I am and I I truly believe staying needs that one match that he's never been able to have. I think everyone would agree. That match would would be a huge question Ashton mark sting and undertaker. There are no question marks with punk and Brock Leser zero. The bill do be incredible. The story would be incredible and optimally the match that you would see in the ring would be incredible. All right there you know. CNN punk has not been in a ring in over five years the guy kept himself in phenomenal shape. The guy was fighting 'em he was keeping himself in shape. I the fact that I just told you you that I would give them more of a thumbs up to punk and brock overstaying. An undertaker tells you everything you need to know. That's everything you need. Bully when you brought up this scenario. Royal Rumble Two thousand and Twenty Branca's in a ring here comes the thirtieth entrant to you. You too Gabby to Alex mets to everybody who is probably listening to this show said was probably thinking punk except me. Because that's how much I want to see the undertaker and staying at Wrestlemainia thirty six and I still have to side with you on punk and Brock. The thing about stinging taker is you know the entrances would be spectacular. You know the face to face would be spectacular. You wouldn't be quite why sure about the physicality just because sting hasn't been in the ring in a long time and you know I don't know if he's fully rehabbed from his injury. Trust me on a personal level because of the The respect that I have for sting and what I was able to accomplish in the ring with him I would love to see him back back for that last thing because I'm sure when he puts his head on his pillow at night knowing that you know the match with Seth and the buckle bomb was the last time it doesn't sit right with him As it probably wouldn't sit right with a lot of people just because that's not the way you WANNA go out. So stinging taker is is fantasy booking that I'm sure people would love to say and bully on a personal note like you said with sting and you add you add. I always bring that up. You had an amazing match in Boston with staying at slam versus is one of my all time favorite matches but you you look at staying in about him putting his head on his pillow when when when it's all said and done for you and you give up pro wrestling wrestling. You're not gonNA have any regrets. You're probably not going to look back at. It said God I wish this would happen. I wish this matchup with APP. I'm sure you've accomplished everything in your in your storied career. Correct one hundred percent. I know I asked this question. Mark Henry Mark Henry Does Not WanNa get physical and doesn't want anybody touching them he doesn't WanNa get because at the ended the day. He accomplished everything that he wanted to. I don't think you could say the same for for staying and I bull you know I'm kind of wishy washy when it comes to staying. I think he's a little bit overrated because I don't think he had that that one match that one victory that one smell of success us that somebody with his status should have had and I know that it probably bothersome and not for his sake. And even the undertaker's sake. I think that's a good way to say goodbye. So on a personal level I would wanna see that match but when you look ahead to the future of this company when you look ahead as a main event for Wrestlemainia when you look at the future of a brock laser and let's face it bully probably somebody who Broccoli's there wants to get into the ring when you've said it before there have been people that maybe he wouldn't WanNa get into the ring with or he doesn't have the respect to get into the ring with. I don't think there's any. He's not raising using an eyebrow to somebody like see 'em punk no because listen Paul and Brock the talks that would have let's let's just say brock for some reason was vehemently against the punk. I think in this case Paul would able be able to talk them off the ledge because because of the story and the business when you have a story like that that's built in when you have actual history both in the ring and outside outside of the ring come on just like you said you announce that match right now. wrestlemanias sold out tomorrow and also we talk about staying. Also this is the Matt. Batsiua punk is always wanted to have you know. I talked about that match at Summer Slam with Brock Lists. I was at the beginning of summer slam that year with CNN. PUMPKIN BROCK LISTENER SIHAM CNN. PUNK and the undertaker wasn't the main event at Wrestlemania Twenty Nine C. M. Hunkin Chris Jericho for the wwe championship was in the main event at Wrestlemainia twenty eight cm punk and Brock Leser for the WWe championship at Wrestlemainia. Thirty six would be your main event. Pump talked about on backstage when he first was on backstage renee young he said well you know there's a lot of wounds that need to be healed. That would take time you got four months start. Healing the wounds the fact that he's on backstage and talking about the wwe two or three times so far. That's a toe in the water. You're closer now than you've ever ever been with him to me. The answer's right in front of them whether they go they decide to go down this route or not and there's one person who's probably listening right now or will listen later or we'll get back to them. That will tell you that this is absolutely the number one best idea. And that is Paul Heyman because this is something that Paul Heyman Book Michael. You're hearing catch busted open live live Monday through Saturday from nine. AM to noon eastern on Sirius. XM Fight Nation Channel One fifty six or on demand with the Sirius. XM APP man. Dan I wonder if I'm alone in this. I want to see Oscar beep Becky Lynch at the Royal Rumble. It's not gonna the happened is it. No how can it happen. It can't because obviously people like you and I fully. Oh He's bringing up the fact that Becky you know tab down to Oscar and then you have what happened with Rhonda Wrestlemainia thirty five. which could creep back in over the the next couple months where? Rhonda's showed the was clearly up at the three cow. They wanted to clean the pallet so to speak when it comes to those things after Wrestlemainia thirty six and the story is right there because after Rhonda debuts however they do it whether she's a Pri- a surprise the prize and the rumble or whether she are they doing the women's royal rumble. Have they announced that yet. No nothing then Charlotte Charlotte Charlotte one. Yeah so whether whether Rhonda were to come back as an entrant in the women's royal rumble or whether she would have come back and attack becky not after becky goes over on OSCO swimming. Becky goes on Oscar however she brings her back. I think. Rhonda's Promo is this. You've been sitting here for months once talking about your self doubt when it came to Oscar because Oscar beach you how about the self-doubt knowing knowing you never pinned me and then Rhonda goes to the videotape and freeze frames. It and she goes. Look you've known about this since that night becky becky. You've been living with this lie. Ever since that night ended at Wrestlemania your championship is a low by your run is a lie everything about you holding whether it's one belts or two championships over your head is alive ally. My shoulders were down. I haven't been in the pro wrestling business as long as you have becky but even I know that that your shoulders needs to be pinned down to the mat for three seconds and clearly. If you look at the Titan drawn. My shoulder was not down their story. There's story but here's what I'm afraid of and you just said it bullying. You know what's going to happen at the wrong on Bowl becky's GONNA run right over Oscar to set that match up at Wrestlemania thirty six because I don't think they're going to go with another The triple threat like they did at last year's Wrestlemainia hope. Not Yes. You the right to sue this. You're not married decision. So I you know she's going to run over Oscar and Oscar's the victim victim coming out of this. She was the victim coming out of last year. Think about an victory Oscar tapping out becky lynch and then she was off a TV for are what weeks. She was off TV and she's never really been able to fully recover. I know she's a tag team champion. Let's face it. It's a big difference between being a part of the TAG team in the current state of the wwe and where she was against Charlotte Wrestlemainia. Thirty four New Orleans. When you look at that I'm I'm afraid that Oscar's going to become a victim and fall further down that ladder and there's no reason why she should become a victim? Oscar is too valuable an asset to the WWE's women division to have her. Just be another victim just another victim brother while you steal the my shit on your show. Oscar can get over and Becky can go over. That's all they need becky to do is go over. There's no reason why Oscar cannot look strong in the entire match and imagine if imagine if becky were to go over and then at the end of the match you were to get a handshake and Oscar with a spray. The green mist and Becky's is becky goes down. She's selling her is Oscar. Ska leaves the ring and then with no music Ronda. Rousey slow round the rowzee slides in the ring I went becky turns around and clears the missed out of her eyes. There's Ronda Rousey Z.. To Destroy Becky Lynch sets up your match at Wrestlemainia thirty six and the match that a lot of people want to see in the first place last year like you you said the right decision making a triple threat with Charlotte. But that's the match that People WanNa see and it would turn the corner because you said a lot of people not getting excited about becky like they. They used to. You talked about the crowd just a handful of people standing up when she came out. That would change after that moment with Ron drowsy. Let me ask you this based on some of the reactions that Becky has been getting and once again people. This is not my opinion. This is what I see in here here with my own eyes based on some of the reactions. Becky has been getting Dave. Do you think if Ronda Rousey lays out becky lynch that people will be on Ron decide who I don't think so knowing the fans and the reaction to Rhonda towards the end I you know what with this with this environment with the way fans are. I don't know but I'M GONNA I'M GONNA say they'd be firmly behind Becky Lynch try your enough. You seventy five percent okay. Seventy five percent of the families with Alex brought up earlier is definitely true. But if they tell the truth in this storyline fans you're gonNA be forced to sit up and take notice and to me. It's the only way to go. Because if if Becky feel so strongly about avenging her loss to Oscar. She has to feel strongly about knowing that she'd never truly one remember in rocky three when Mickey told hold rocky all of the guys that Fort were hand picked. Yep they were setups. That's basically what ron can tell. Tell becky not aftertaste setups. But you know damn well. You never beat me. Come on Becky. Let's be honest girl. You know you've watched the match back. You probably watched a match back back a hundred times. We were the main event at Wrestlemania. We made his street together. Forget about Charlotte Becky. She wasn't even in the ring when the finished happen. But look at the finish if you were so upset about Oscar. How could you possibly sleep at night knowing knowing that you never beat me? Becky Lynch you are a fraud. And here's the thing as strongly as I feel like at the rumble. Becky is going to roll over Oscar. That's how strongly I feel that Ronda will be becky at Wrestlemainia. Yeah I think. I think that that's the right thing to do. And you Rhonda Asia Champion and you have to put the chase back on. Yeah Becky is in some weird territory right now. Yeah she's on the cereal boxes and she's on the video game and you know she does a great the job with what she's handed but for some reason. Okay Alex. I'm going to go to you not today. Because you're more of a becky fan. Do you feel like she is resignation resonating as much with the people. Now as six months to a year ago no but I think that's just because storyline wise it kind of it's kind of slowed down a little bit for her. We're now just starting to get back into something really good with her with this Oscar thing I obviously we know what happened with her. And Seth being paired together and then Kinda ever since then. She's just kind of treading water. Her she had that tag match against us. Good and Kyrie scene. That's kind of setting all of this up So yeah I would agree with you. It's not resonating right now but I don't think that means it can't If that makes sense fair enough it is a bit of murky water for her and I think I think the wwe has done a good job now of saying all right. We have to address this situation with Oskar because I think it hurt Becky by them ignoring it because as as much as like you talked about the blind devotion becky fans and how they're like over I love the fact that like that. What seven months ago? kgo eight months ago when we were bringing this up everybody was like come on. It's over with forget about move on and now that they're bringing it back to attention now. Everybody's he's like. Oh good job. Good job now. Becky's GonNa you know use this. You know adversity of that what happened. Hey this is what you and I have been preaching the whole time since it took place at last year's royal rumble. Bully when you ignore it and you pretend like it didn't happen that's going to bring doubt not not forget about becky's mind but the fans minds about whether she could really be this person or not. Now they're using it as a story and they're using it as a match again. I just hope Oscars doesn't fall victim to this whole thing because to me when you talk about the the the best women's wrestlers in the WWe Oscars the top op is in the top. Five top five right now in my opinion and she needs to be there. She doesn't need the fall down any further. And you know what. I don't know how how to make of what we saw last night. That'd be quite honest with you. You Know Oscar comes out. She's loud she obno- she's obnoxious. She goes into the ring and one shot. What was that? A forearm to chest takes her down and she's out cold supposed to be a throat punch karate chop throat punch. Whatever that's not to say I agree with it? But it wasn't a forearm. It was supposed to be a throat punch and I didn't even like the version of Oscar that we got last night. I don't like this great one added that. Yeah Yeah I hate it. Oscars killer and she. And that's the way she would be presented because of you the more you present Oscar as a credible killer. The bigger the wind will be for Becky. I would have loved to have seen Oscar. Just come to the ring. Just do just being normal Oscar right and just looked at becky and said I beat you bank throat punch but what they're trying to do bullies to make you hate Oscar. That's what they're trying trying to do. Look at the way she looks look at the way she works. She does the cool green missed. There's nothing about Oscar that I really hate. They have that made me hate Oscar. What could you do it if becky Lynch has a puppy maybe Oscar could kick the puppy UPI? Maybe I'll hate her then I don't know what is the. WWe done to make me hate her. Why just because she's standing across for Becky Lynch and everybody is supposed the love Becky? Becky already has enough people. Not Loving her. She got a huge fan base but there are some people out there who not quite happy with her. Why do I say this? Because they booed last night when cheat Throat Punch outsca because they love ASCA. They know you talk about the story the of Becky and Becky being wronged and becky being overlooked and what you had to overcome to be in that matchup resume that we'll get Oscar. The last year all ascot did was tap out. Becky Lynch the hottest wrestler in the company and they threw a trash can for a year. So you know the same in story they presented you with. Becky is the same story that ask has been going through the last twelve months. What does it work? What is a shoot Damn Damn right and I'm telling you they presented 'cause you're one hundred percent right? The Oscar. I came out last night. Should've been a coal hearted did killer. That should have been somebody that was walk into the ring. And not saying a damn thing but they're trying to make you hate the way the wwe makes you hate somebody. Somebody is by being annoying. How did it gets you to have? That's what they do and that's what they're doing with us. 'cause she comes out is screaming at the top of her lungs. shriveling on the microphone to the point. You're like turn it off. I don't WanNa hear this. That's what they did with Oscar last night. That was very uncharacteristic of Oscar. What we saw last night and should not be the way to go and build towards their match at the Royal Rumble? For me. It was is a little bit too much. It was too over the top. And if the idea is to get becky over and a venture two losses to Oscar and the very memorable one which is the royal rumble where she tapped out. Did you hear that Becky fans she tapped out. You want the most serious version. Asian of Oscar. You could possibly present. That's how I would do it because the more serious Oscar is the more credible victory will be there. You go mike from Connecticut it says. Can we get this. Can we set the record straight becky. Lynn shoulder was not Becky Lynn. The shoulder was not up at three wrestlemainia thirty five he met Rhonda. Her shoulder wasn't up career WRESTLEMANIA. Thirty five it was up at one down for two and three either way than it wasn't a three cow whether it was up at one or two or three it doesn't matter it wasn't a three count her Her shoulders were down for three cow. Great then there's even more heat on it because the referees should've even started counting now Rhonda can call all the referees into question she could say you're all biased. You just wanted her to be the girl because she was going to be the poster child for the entire company and you count three no matter what whether my shoulders down or not. DISIN- tire company screwed me over. And if it wasn't for me Ronda Rousey no woman would be in the main event event at Wrestlemainia. There's your heat kids. I just wrote it for you. Thanks for listening catches Monday through Saturday. I'm busted open from nine. Am To noon eastern on Sirius X._M.. By Nation Channel One fifty six the busted open podcast.

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Wile cities and states are locking people stay at home big d country says stay free we are a podcast.

The big d zone

16:01 min | 6 months ago

Wile cities and states are locking people stay at home big d country says stay free we are a podcast.

"Dog this is big d country for now for the time being the on not. Enough Free Country. I'm seeing we'd many the-the Wade may stage are issuing enforcing a stay at home order and just a few hours ago while stuck waiting on my dark well not dark but no wi fi apartment and then by the time. I found out that the Wifi with on Springfield Greene. County is under the same thirty day. Stay at home order the only sentence to to store due to mocking. But there's no saint walking or go to the Doctor. Bud His death and some instances and some orders if you're not doing the essential like going to the grocery store go to the doctor or you can do you could be fined or jailed data. I repeat in Springfield matter of fact. There's a thousand dollar fine and one hundred eighty day jail. I kid you not. I read the order. I kid you not I kit. United on K Y three matter of fact on my facebook page. This is not for you know. Well I am going to have an order on my own. A big country but since this is the podcast and I'm a beat podcast. I'M GONNA say remain free order. Okay remain free to listen to the care remain. Free Talk to your friend you know. Even though this is the Internet remain free talk over the Internet and all like that remain free because we had to have thought of game. We had to have some sort of some sort of a way that we could do what we normally usually do. If we was free right now life or not free but Bakti country is free and it will remain that way and big D country remain open. I have an interview. Ryan that if you want to do interviews. Those distancing is not needy here and big D country interviews are open there will be no mine's there will be no del time and be country but if you want to be interviewed you. WanNa share your experience of what it's like to be locked up and a country that has both be free. But because I'm in the middle of pandemic and places are requiring rant. You go to this email address interview on big teeth on at team out. Dot Com made us made pure many interview on big deals at team now dot COM and we'll schedule interview over the phone even on his Internet. Even though it is a big country remains a free country. Big D country remains a freedom order. Social distancing is not allowed and big D country. You know lot of these leaders have no idea of the mental help or mental health. I should say that the social distancing the no contact except for a family I figure there's somebody who's thinking like myself know hugs kisses. No interaction for this amount of time. It is like Adele has started this series many jail because thankfully no month of us will never be inside of a jail. Cell is so forbidding loved ones and well very live because of this corona virus because of this cove. Nineteen this tiny vipers. Whatever you WANNA call it had been taken from us and yet few we go. We were told that we could live online rumor. I would come back from podcast. I was coming back from Saint Louis in the middle of Saint Louis. Almost everything was knocking down. And we within the two weeks federal part of this of this quarantine and San Francisco and watch it then where one of the first well San Francisco mainly the first to do their own shelter place lockdown but they do it for three months and then invited the started and then all the other states and cities are following suit. It's like a chain reaction of limit the freedoms. And if you're not going to ascend to store doctor or you know if you're able to there's a well they're not a part because some places probably clothe that but if you're not doing those things and then you call it the other kind of toppling. You could be fine a jail not to a biggie country. Here you could be entertained here. You're allowed to laugh here. You're allowed to enjoy yourself here. You are able. You are able to escape the manner of a once free country that is waiting to this terrible evilness of a pandemic that created the eagles. A social distancing created the evil of a nonsol- FREE COUNTRY LIQUIDITY EVIL OTHER RESTRICTIONS. That we have all been placed under. So if you need an escape. We'RE GONNA to be here. I don't know how how often because I've been reduced to tell them about interview. And every time I tried to think about doing wrestlemainia Wrestlemainia type rundown this Kobe. Nineteen Chinese virus evil enemy that that is liking. This was seeing right now. Is destroying ever fabric of our country ever fabric offering and doing that other place that amount of our own are coming back but is destroying others and enemy? This enemy will not be hindered here and big the country. It is not welcome at a not invited. It is not welcome here at fifty country our way of fighting if enjoyment our way of fighting detainment our way of fighting is just to be free and I tell you if we remain free. If we mean the way that we are no com. Nope there but really get angry at the right time. If we speak our mind at the right time nothing can stop the number not a damn pandemic in the world. That could stop us and we'll be able to stop us. We are still big D country strong and we will emerge victorious. We will emerge victorious. Now Myodaw stay free. Pray be entertained. Enjoy and above all else one another and I say again above all else be kind to one another in our living in a history where none of us have ever been through the floor. Last time this happened like the Great Depression and the different world wars had never experienced a loss of freedom like this never experience while we are now and teachers need to teach differently except on the freedom that we do not half. They need to teach on other things because they contain the T. Freedom and they're gonNa myth it then we don't need another depression so I want to make people laugh again on supposed to be a comedian. I want people to enjoy them. Water here at bitty country but the country is the place but the country is an escape big. The country is a home away from home that they could go to different the media but the country is different than just a normal regular radio program but the country is different than any other park at that you ever heard before in your life and it will continue to be that way. The my very last breath today the bitty country nights prentice new citizens stamp protocol stab proud. Be Proud being a citizen or being a citizen. The big country. You are still free. This podcast will continue to be a movement of entertainment for all. Thank you very much and God bless the country. 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Near the end of football season sad week 14 picks

The big d zone

18:30 min | 10 months ago

Near the end of football season sad week 14 picks

"Are you ready to walk. I'll you ready to roll. Well we're getting down again getting to wire the end of the road it nearly playoff and we fourteen a going to be down a stream that Ad. I you ready for some football list. We fourteen comment for you. Are you ready to have a good time to then an-and and for some Footba all right. Well that was a that was a hair of a night last night while far a timeout. Put this recording out there For my picks on Ennui Fourteen. Wow Lee are really getting to the wire this NFL season. Aren't we coming out to a close. It's time to think playoffs kind of the Super Bowl and I hate to think that one team is trying to get to the Again and you know what I'm talking about the House the House has massacring massacring teams throughout this whole season except one finally made the decision that they finally GonNa win and get the house. which is the ravens the ravens were the only one the only team that had will taste the far to knock out all? Aw The house. Not a matter of fact. They killed the dolphins not only killed Miami Dolphin in the disgraceful score. Forty three to nothing and I will never get that out of my memory. I guess I'll be. That's why I had a lot brief Dad's about my wife yesterday at Church scooped me boy. Internet wasn't working and like China sleep but well I could but it was like struggle. Kinda get to sleep usually take a while for me to give it a grief with that but I wanted to come on here to do the show because I know to do the segment because I know that tonight is the game but I couldn't do yesterday because when I came home in analog on crazy I mean I could not do nothing youtube you too brother and working and I was stuck here in commercials on the radio and in this morning the sports station decided to finally only go off on me. All the other states were but they didn't want me to sports. That's the only time to help me comedy now when I was listening to the sports station. Man Hell I wish I was back on the ship. I need a print that anyway. Anyway the man or at the princess from facebook or either twitter come can come around. That'd be good come on and like I said yesterday or the other the other day as something the word to happen to me if I were to have a seizure or if I were to go into a coma nobody would family. I would definitely be a goner. It's just just that just ethnical. I'm the only one here anyway n hall. So let's get on with the football. Sally Ali I he has good. Let me go to the UH pace so tonight or Thursday night football I should say the cowboy versus the bears. Not both teams happened winning so far and when we fourteen And it's GonNa be interesting to see what these teams could do Well unless the bears could trip took my pick. I'm again well. The cowboys did Lost One one game. I'm going to say that this time I'm going for the bears. Yeah I'm going to go for the best but let the cowboy could beat the the bears but the way that they went to their law. I don't know I don't know so this this time around. I'm going for the bear all right. The Indianapolis Colts Tampa Bay buccaneers home of Wrestlemainia Wrestlemainia. Thirty six Tampa Bay buccaneer the Tampa Bay buccaneers will the home of Wrestlemainia. Thirty in the cool thing about it if they got that pirate themed going on and and I think that Kerry Shane's this is don't be a pirate thing I think Kyrie. Shane should be the host of Wrestlemainia. Why not you know? It is by team and Cari Shayne is apprentice and make sense for her to hold resume Atari safe I would think anyway anyway so cold purses assist the bucket near temporarily buccaneers. I haven't been going for buccaneers this whole season because they haven't been winning much for me to acknowledge so I'm GonNa go ahead and go for the colts again This time around the heroes. The one that defeated the House are going to be playing the bills. I'm talking about the pump Baltimore Ravens at the Super Bowl would would be held the date that they beat the The Patriots or the House the Ravens would have been the Super Bowl team amount that and they would have been chanting. I'm wanting it but I did see when the vaping beat the stupid patriots or a stupid house I should say and but I'm going for the Ravens to beat the bills so there you go lion versus biking and I'm GonNa go with the Vikings on. There's one rescue. I is packers another easy pick. I'm going with the Green Bay. Packers broncos versus Texans matter of fact all of these Games until I indicate unwise are twelve noon broncos versus Texans. Of course I am going to have to go with the buckle on his one nine eighty saints either. I would have gone on forty niners but the same you know still hot this This season is beyond me. Yeah they lost them game but For the niners have been losing losing losing the only did a few winning games thus far but the things are still on the roll though. I think the thing might be playoff contenders a playoff contender. So I'm definitely going to go on the saints for the forty Niners Game I Bengal Brown well. The Brown could beat the bengals. This will be the easy game for them. And I'll be surprised at the bengals will come out with a win against the Cleveland browns. So and they will have playoff implications and even with this game though but I think clearly have what it takes to beat the bengals all right. So Oh yeah panthers. Falcons I'm going with Atlanta Falcons on that one Miami Dolphins I is jets. Let's and like I said this team had the so vulnerable of a house. Beat them and nearly killed him but they did kill them. I'M GONNA go with the jets J. E. F. yet yet. Yes at all day all day. All right now moving to the one we only have the one now. We don't have no one o'clock games so now we're moving to the three o'clock game and then the three twenty five game so until I do. I noticed. These are all what the first one here is. Two zero five game between the chargers. Roger's than the jet Jaguar and then the rest are three. PM Up till we get to Sunday night and the money game. So the tool Fi. I Charter I Jackson Jacksonville. Jaguar and I'M NOT YELLING FOR NO LA. I'm going even though. I'd like to go the price of right eh or properly to clean Mary and over in Long Beach. I'M GONNA go with the Jaguars and I'm GonNa go with Jaguar. How though though three thirty three twenty five oh no cheese? He's get your game on cleave. Get your game on. I am counting and we in the people who live here in the state of Missouri counting on you to defeat the house. No no not the tea I the House Really GonNa Implant that one on me now so already started getting Greece attached ever taste given and then and yesterday and if not who Christmas my my friend and nights scared me. Taro desert one who I played a couple of days ago. What is awesome testimony? But then when I don't want to come down and everything I thought played the testimony as to talk me taking. What does this happen where I'm alone and you got this game on me to purchase the house now? Oh played on your ache and I'm counting L.. Team on you plays. I am picking the cheese. Oh you're you're you're you're you're traffic was held for now. Traffic was terrible. Tiny get determined terrible for them. Picking me up the other day day it will. Current people couldn't even drive people could not dry what the cat was going on last night. Okay oh I still even out attack but I had to get this done. I had to get this done. But anyway titans versus Oklahoma raiders. And like I said until the raiders moved to Las Vegas and the problem is they're not gonNA have a parking lot because they don't want they don't want no tailgate happening and as part of tradition football tradition dishes tailgate. I don't know that's GonNa fly right when fan especially the ones that come from. La To go to Las Vegas. I don't know we see. We see had to follow this story but until they do move to Las Vegas. I'm not hearing for weight later. We got they still in Oakland. California have many teams still. Anyway I might have to go with the titans on the raiders are playing the titans. I'M GONNA have to cheer for the tightened. All right the last three twenty five game in the steelers versus cardinal and accorded artem going forward the steelers. I don't know what's wrong with the carnal. They haven't been having much of the success of win everything and how in the heck they became. He came team in a play. And you know they don't have no star power. I don't know what the cat is going on. What and how many team and one team always try to be in the Super Bowl every year in the house and we only have one new new team every so often trying to play against the house? Get it play against the house and this is crazy. The tumelty not that beat out that I saw that are released from member. Seen were the ravens and the seahawks and I think I wanNA stay. The giant talked to beat the house at one point. Another bud anyway. I'm just so sick of seeing the house every year on the Super Football. I am sick of it. Then why do we have all of these teams. Why if one team is always GonNa make the Super Bowl? I mean that's just a that's just my the two cents but anyway seehof versus the CHEETOS WANNA left Saint Louis for L. A. About about the cheaters. You know. Go for Seattle seahawks right. I mean easy. I am not tearing for Titas refused to cheer for that. UPDATE LETA and now. We're suing them for Damn. It is because they up and let the contract so wow giants versus the eagles. Now this is. This is the Monday night game by the way. This is my only tough one because I like the giants and I also like the Eagle. Wow sometimes with the giant eagle in winning you know Except for when they have to play the health both teams when they had to play the house they end up on the losing side but nonetheless. Ns turnpike gain or you know a tyrod game a man. I don't know what to go for the giants or the Eagles on his one. Well I'm I'M GONNA go with the city of brotherly. Love the Eagle so there you go. That's who I'm going with. I am going with the Eagles to win on Bat Monday night game before we thirteen starts on that particular Thursday so there you have it if we fourteen eighteen and wow it's been a rough day that tell you. There has been a rough month and I'm already ready for this year at the end. Aren't you wow. Wow We got grief tasks we got traffic got peach mint we got brexit. 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SLB Karen Barton

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

57:38 min | 11 months ago

SLB Karen Barton

"We got there really. Sorry this was my first introduction. In this whole Bruce Community you meeting people at side that you've never You've never met before you probably never meet again but you like one big family. It's just it. This was my first experience. All this is this is amazing. How can this is just? How can this man this person some people together like this uh Hello everyone and welcome to a new episode of set. Wesseling Bruce Your podcast. All about Bruce springsteen his music music but mostly as fans I am your host Jesse Jackson and joining me. Today is one of those tiny y me episodes where it is my Sunday afternoon and it is. Karen's Monday morning how you doing Karen. I'm I'm good. Thanks Jesse's a beautiful morning here in Australia but unfortunately I country's been in a little bit sorry bushfires again the a bit out of hand while it's a beautiful morning today we're getting a little bit threatened by increasing Bush is is around us are is IT A. Is it fairly close to you. Nearest one's about forty five minutes away. That's way too close It's a bit too close. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah we will keep a good thought for you and everyone else there Yeah I know there's a lot of wildfires going in California. Yeah yeah very scary. Scary stuff. Eight is for sure he needs to show. Yeah Yeah Yeah well. So as everyone is probably her. You're you said you're from Australia. So Tesla about yourself. Karen I'm probably one of the older fans. All debris spends I originally come from England so you northwest town coal blackpool which could be considered a twin town of asprey POPs. Really he sorry. It's a seaside town with amusement parks and theatres and music holes and all sorts of things that you might gene espy fog to be so. That's where I grew up these. Yes yes UH. How did you get to Australia? I had dinner benefited traveling with the job that I used to do. I used to be a hairdresser and so I did a fair bit of traveling whip. Tom Cruise ships traveled old pretty much to a couple of different places all over the world and I got back home to black who on I thought. Nah Aw don't want to stay here. I WanNa go somewhere else so I applied Australia. I six months later that that was on the plane on my way out to Austrailia without knowing anybody or really knowing what I was GonNa do and yeah been here ever since. How many two years ago was that twenty seven years ago? Wow that is very courageous. Yes some people might say she she picked. Yeah I the first couple years were incredibly haunt knowing not knowing anybody party. Having to find my way I it's interesting when I first arrived here. We speak the same language. Sean I thought we did. Increase Scher But sorry difference and people could understand me actress slurry my I speak down so people can under sound main. I'm thinking we're safe with speaking the same language alarm but yeah they understand my strong northern accident uh-huh from England. Yeah but the first two years were really really hard really really tough was ninety two when I came out here But Yeah I've been back home a couple of times and yeah. I'm I'm glad to be in Australia. I take it Australia's become you. Come home yes it has yet very much. Sorry yeah you know. The closest this is nothing compared Linden I got married in eighty four so we were about twenty five twenty six and in Eighty six I guess a six eighty seven The economy wasn't doing very well in Louisiana Ziana where we lived and we decided to move to Dallas which was about six seven hours away. Different state we did have Some good friends friends who lived in Dallas a couple that We had been friends with for years and then Lynda's sister and her husband had moved moved up so we weren't totally without Family but then eight nine when Linda got pregnant and we had Chris Jackson then then it was a little weird that all of a sudden you know were raising a child without that infrastructure of yen. Grandparents grandparents Dow Linda's mom and dad and my mom were very supportive from a distance and it would did their share share visiting especially Linda's parents but it is kind of in a lot of ways. I think it's healthy that you're going because you do end up having to be on your around and being self sufficient yet for sure absolutely. Yeah and I've always been independent. Mike like my parents raised me to be independent. Whatever beat anything else okay Did you continue to do hairdressing or did you not know what did you end. I'm doing in your new Gig with your new life. I'm a social worker. I summarize yeah so someone say headdress. Sydney's very similar much social worker Very intimate people tell you lots of things when they come to get their heads on because they they just do they get to know you is. Yeah is it as an individual. Sorry I just sit down. During the way that I said of sounding full died I was GONNA make that very same common kind of a hairdresser bartender. You know. A confidante so yeah that's Great. Well let's go back to getting your growing up there in England. You said your parents were very raise you to be very very independent. Let's talk about. We gotTA music music. Did you listen to the family. As a child. My parents always into music themselves. We always had the radio Jio Wall and we had one of these. Massive Raider grams are on a stack. Large of seventy eight vinyl. Sorry music was always around as my parents. Parents obviously grew up that kids during World War Two and likes black. Who is very much like as re park a during the wool we we? We have lots of American soldiers Sorry we gotTA They were expires to a lots. Lots of American music Influences in music and the theaters and they go and see life fans Dances music was always appalled of being kid. We always had music in the half's know what I think about the music that moment that used to listen to connecting coal Johnny Mathis and Mario Lanza all and I guess I have to say Glen Campbell. ooh because rhinestone cowboy was definitely one of those things that I remember as a kid which is quite relevant now now but yeah so am I and you hear people uneven bruce his set this himself that Eddie grew up as a kid. He guy down to local store going through the X.. jukebox singles and and all the rest of it and I I I would do the same. I get off cramps. Spend your money. which is two shillings and sixpence? I don't know what that is in the money today. But that's what I got when I was at seven. Oh right and I'd be off the record store to buy Gar re re three they X. Box ingles and so I've got a ton of really old forty-five still have them so Beatles Rolling starring James The kinks all those old forty fives that I would collect they. Would Martha's final. Sorry that was my music that I was collecting to age. That you do you remember. How many singles you could buy with your allowance? Just one okay one yet. Just yeah the the reason I ask. I've told the story in other venues. I don't know if I told it. Onset Leslie Bruce But I grew up loving Ling comic books. Just a huge fan and for the longest time. When I first started buying comic books they were twelve cents each in and and I would be given a quarter and so with a quarter? I can buy two comic books and then sometime sometime. They raised the price to fifteen cents for comic book. And all of a sudden my cutting buying power was cut in half one one comic and you know in in the extra dying. Didn't mean anything to me. You know I guess you could think of it as well if you save your dime next week so you know then but no. I just wanted to comic books. I just was curious about that. I think it's amazing. You still have those singles. uh-huh that that bring back a lot of great memories official official. Go through some of them I not I mean I've got not one by Emile Ford and I don't know at seven. Oh right that I would have known you and the food was but it was just. I just recognized that Choon. Yeah what song was. I can't remember to be honest. The car remember now afterguard through. Yeah so yeah. Vital came over from England and Kmart with me. That is awesome so as you started growing up in your reaching what here in the United States we call high school. You Know Your Yup yes EBSCO I guess What how did your music tastes change? What did you start liking as a teenager? Definitely T rex. Marc Bolan. I would have to say it would be a standout there Mike. Those passion would be my absolute first. Shame and it's funny. That's great I has just been nominated for the rock and Roll Hall of fame but isn't doing to well but yet nice to see them in that. Eventually unbolt way possibly Rock Genesis Camel Pink Floyd aid on a little bit different into what my girlfriend's at school would have been listening to. They were the donny. Osmond David Cassidy. They Roll Roll into that sort of idols. Nothing wrong with it but no no no. Yeah but bid to clean to me with Nice music too. Yeah so I I was going the other way you you liked a little bit of the and I don't want to do the class of the bad boy but you want that. You wanted a bit more of Rawness to it yet. Yeah absolutely yes yes I just a and again as it went as the the music changed I mean. Punk rock was just amazing. I would have been in my twenty s worldly Whibley when punk rock came out but I think I'm one of a few people the soul the sex pistols Eric's in Liverpool. which was it was amazing? It was just oh my gosh I'm just yet So Yeah have always I love music. Music is my life. I'm Bruce has been there for the majority of the time suppliers but this'll waste-bin other things outside verse that I. Yeah that gives me the same thrill. I love music. I just looked music. Yeah well let's talk about that. When did you find? Or how did you find Bruce. Three Patti Smith Okay. So I bought the album Easter. So that would have been seventy fool. Fool seventy three seventy four around their minds Of course because the NI- is on their mind nine black vinyl collector you reading the credits region. Everything about done. So because tonight curve in Biparti smoothen springsteen I'm like Oh yeah Houston Nine never heard of this person people. I'm sorry just Saudi. And a wooded being around the time that Bruce had or he was just coming for the first time Lanka Hammersmith Odeon Gig around that time so he was in he started to appear in all the music papers that I read melody maker Sounds owns record mirror so he was starting to appear in all the UK Papers newspapers so it was just a journey. We Start Finding out about the person I was. I was just about to leave school. Are we still at school. And when he did the Hammersmith Ardian Gig and while I love my parents my parents raised me beautifully. They would not have let me travel to London on my arm so just region about AIDS and then being interested in how how Patchy Smith car right these record this bruce springsteen and data so just exploring all of that and then after the Smith Gig of course all the rave reviews and stuff like that and I didn't really a didn't really hit home until I was a little bit older and I I started. I was old enough to start going out to pubs and clubs and seeing life bans on. I met someone that had gone to the Hammersmith Odeon in Gig. So that's where it all started all the whole Saudi to connect the knee and there was room. Sorry we're getting into the nineteen eighties. Now never rumors that Bruce springsteen was returning to the eqe so it was A. You must do this g Moscow to this. This is a must guard too so this time I was old enough to make my decision about Kay. I'm going yeah. Yeah I think that's hilarious first off because I'm a big Fan of Pin Gillette Sunday school and he he was just a month or so talking about a blondie ever Harris. Just put out a new book and he talked about how She was not the kind of he was more of a Patti Smith Ban was just. She was too glamorous she was too and all of a sudden you know and then later he understood how rock and roll. She was yeah But Patty Smith and Marc Bolan. Have that same kind of feel so I could see why you were drawn to that. It meant something to you. So that's very very cool. Yeah that's cool that you made that connection. Yeah yeah it was and so Did So once you figure out like okay this this guy. Bruce springsteen helped to write the song Did you go look for an album. Tom What did you what would you do. Go tell me a little about that. I yeah I I got the back catalogue Cord and of course. The eighty-one toll was the river toll. so I bought greetings and Gosh I I. It was a love greetings because of the stories. I didn't fully understand them and to be honest. I daren't Nari that I fully understood the stories until Brucie's book. Yeah and that may go back in and read in the book leading these And then going back I. It's everything I just don't make sense while I love the stories in greetings. I didn't fully understand it but I have a better understanding now. Having read two biographies we amazing things to think that it's been so long and not greetings is my absolute favorite album. STANDOUTS A me. That's very cool. So unfortunately because your your mom and dad loves you and worried worried about you too much. You didn't see it hammersmith but When did you first get to see him? Eighty one at Manchester Paul. Yeah so I There was no obviously no Internet. Nothing our social media back then. Sorry no online to kit. So you cute. Outside Sark at signed for two days in the middle of Chester in the middle of winter signed was lucky enough to get racy center two hits and then of course he got sick and scorned. Scorned it. Sorry that was this waiting waiting waiting. Yeah I could hear the disappointing. Your Voice after this is let's see you know. Eighty two thousand nineteen the forty years right. Almost like he was sick. Like like come on. uh-huh yeah so when he he made it up right you got to see him. Yeah young so often when you have that much anticipation And I know this is dumb question. You know the expectations answer to high and then the reality is less than In this case I I was just blown away. Yeah absolutely completely blown away. I think I traveled with the friend that had gone onto the Hammersmith Gig. Okay sorry group win including this person that went to the Hammet Smith GIG soy on the way down the driveway on the drive there. Of course it's it's all you know what it's like when you're on your way to a Gig. It's all getting hyped up. You've got the cassette in the. The Anez agree. Puff you in the car. And you're you're you're just getting so excited for this and I as we got there really. Sorry this was my first introduction. In this whole Bruce Community so you meeting people people at that. You've never swear you know you you've never met before you probably never meet again but Ulli won't big family. It's just. This was my first experience. All this is this is amazing. How can this is just? How can this man? The person draw people together like this So we're all outside on Koshi yet. The mood not looking at the merger buying the merge. Everyone's going what did you get. What did you get this? This whole thing's just name before the before the GIG even started. I had to hand my camera in 'cause in those days you could not take cameras or anything inside a lost my camera which I'm sorry devastated about but anyway yes and it was just from the minute. He walked off the band. Walt on stage. The Minute Clarence. Clemens won't on stage. This was like all. My goodness nice is going to be epic of even got goosebumps now talking about. It's this memory a Yeah I was just amazing absolutely absolutely amazing and I've got audiotapes of the GIG and just to listen to the crowd singing i. I don't know that I've ever been to a gig where this happened before. was jazz. It was it was like something really spiritual sure which is bizarre. I'd had to put into words really but the just the way the whole band but obviously bruce relates to the crowd relates to us. He's funds. Yeah I yeah yeah it's just it is You know I had a similar experience Due to circumstances timing you know I did not see him live till two thousand and two and it was the rising tour he was here in Dallas. Al And there was a conflict on the reunion tour that I didn't get to go something to do with my son I can't remember exactly Liam so I went in. I had not listened to the rising a lot. I had just listened to a few songs and so it felt like oh my goodness. I'm walking into a movie halfway. I what I'm hearing but but I feel like I've missed part of the story Yet and so luckily you know I've learned and like the next time I saw him was devils and dust than I knew every song. I'm devils devils and dust like okay. I'm ready for this test now. But she guest. Guess that's like okay. I'M GONNA be ready but there is that sense of just it is wonderful to see. See them carrying on. Always tell people that the number of times you've seen him is not fair barometer of Vanyur because we all live in different parts parts of the world and economic circumstances but exactly occurred. How many times have you seen him perform twenty-five which is very very law? You know other people laugh because I've done seventeen and you know like I had a Boston when you see the same person seventeen. Do you realize how low is. Yeah exactly it is it's just something special How how? How far have you traveled to see him? went to I went to New York to roadway. Nice yeah now. Did you have tickets beforehand or did you travel on faith will be rewarded. I had tickets for the first night. Yes yes but I but I actually went to nights I got to do. Yeah Yeah I thought to me I mean I've come all this way. I one joining New York for five days Kamal this why they were. You know how they do the they sell tickets. AGAI- it just stops at the box. They had a ticket then on Loch. Na I'm doing it I'm not coming all this way I'm done passing passing up. The chance to save is a game so yeah yeah so this is a story. I've told before but when he was doing doing the river tour the second leg of the river tours when he played in Oklahoma City and then two nights later he was playing in Dallas and I was meeting a bunch of people That I knew and other people I didn't know through online at the hard rock cafe that was merely a maybe a mile away from the arena where he was playing it. I was talking to a guy into young men that had wrestlemainia wrestlemainia shirts on going. You mentioned Bruce Springsteen is playing and I go oh yeah. He's playing tonight and they went we. We've flew here to go to wrestlemainia. WRESTLEMAINIA was the WCW. Yes happening that it was on. I think it was. Yeah it was. It was a Sunday night and the concert was Monday. He's in our flight is tonight. I already have tickets the Ireland. I'm like okay. That's gotta be hurt. I was like I'd be calling airline going okay. How much does it cost me? Change my mind because I am right here. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah so you've already talked about loving greetings. How about is there any other songs or albums? That really mean something to you in reasons. Why the river? I think that that was that means a lot given it was my first whole pool darkness darkness. I I really fell felling love way I guess because all circumstances and things in live but lines I guess it means a lot to a few people but by blinds really really hates Jason On Eighty S Assam. That means a lot to me for a lot of reasons Yeah I This too many really secure Any stories about travelling rolling. I know obviously you just told us the Broadway show where you had the opportunity to get another ticket and you know you. You bit the bullet. How about anything else outs? In you mentioned meeting so many people Twenty five shows. You've gotTa have made some connections of friends over the years. There's Oh yes for sure for sure and it was with the with the New York and all of these. You'll you'll know it down French. Yeah so we've become sort of friends and unbeknown to was when we got got tickets for Broadway. We actually got the same night. We didn't know it was just bizarre the way that it will end the whole whole group that had travelled travelled to Australia for the Australian tour all on the same night in New York. It was just bizarre. ABSO- yeah it was just a with a just. This is how things happen. I don't know why I is just some someone. Komo nells tweaking old of this. I'm sure yeah some of somewhere higher. There's a high of being some less tweaking this so that we all get together the same place at the same time I I just. It's just bizarre. Things happen but I mean it's a long flight from Australia so I've been I'm traveling for I o nine twenty six hours and now he's at the airport in New York waking the shuttle. Bus and Dan sent me a message. We're at the hotel waiting for you. We'll go out to Dana and I'm thinking what I've been traveling for every day. They don't feel like I'm I'm still at the Apple. How what time all? Yeah I knew. I'd go to the hotel and those Dan. O'Brien bushy woody. Great can I just get changed. Yeah Yeah Yeah because even if you try to sleep on the plane it's just not restful it's not nice no nine. I've gone to Manila twice. And it's the same kind of thing it is is almost a twenty four hour traveling between flights. And it's just in your on that plane. It seems forever. Yeah you just just So but I see Dan like come on. Grab a shower fresh. It is truly a wonderful person. I did it and the stories he can tell. Yeah I don't have any stories I don't think anyone else does and and I always joke. He has the best voice. Yeah he does just ooh I just. He is truly one of my favorite people. There is probably a couple of dozen people that I've met through the podcast that I just just cannot i. I want to meet in person so much. Yeah because and we're blessed. We're blessed Karen that I mean here it is. I'm in Dallas Texas this urine Australia and we're getting to talk. That is just that that is a miracle mazing absolutely. Yeah Yeah Yeah it is so. I went back to back to Manchester for the Second River toll. Sorry that was. It was my thirty fifth anniversary from the original Riveta. Sorry on it would have been rude not to guy absolutely now. Do you still have family in England. I do My parents moved out here to live with me and my best soy hey My my father passed away just before the second river tall so that was very difficult. It was circle trip home but it was people trip on and he passed away about five weeks before that trip. So I've got my mom here my brother but I got concerns on. Yeah I'm just thinking got one anti go back home as people get on your and leave us unfortunately yet because I always think of that as in You know I'm coming to visit you and it just so happens. There's springsteen concert fight some miracle. Wow who would have thought that. Why am I going to visit you? There happens to me of ratio that dive. Well actually laugh about these Jesse because obviously the when I booked The trip back to Manchester to see the second though was that was I'm going to bet you that I'm coming back just for this age the the time I had been back so I I hadn't been back home at all so I was Lich literally going back back to see Bruce Springsteen yes but of course things change when passed away so I am signing. Yeah became my family reunion but yeah but I that was. That was literally the the only reason I was going back at his So is there with Independence Day being played on that tour. And I don't know like my father's house on Broadway with the loss of your father. Were those especially poignant for you yet. I think the thing that that got me most at Broadway was Wayne. Bruce was talking about Clarence. You are not alone in that Karen. Because I wouldn't when Clarence passed away I hadn't experienced a loss like tax but come festival were to Broadway and I had. I've lost my father. Sorry that was yeah. That was hard. That was yeah. I can imagine there is a She's retired now. But Sara Hickman is a local She's for Texas a singer. Songwriter and We I have probably seen her More than any other artist. I mean we She's here locally we use. We used to go see her at the small club. That was in downtown Dallas. She played every with you every Monday afternoon You know so. We have seen her many times. There is a song along that Take me with you when you go. And it's all about a a husband and a wife and when one of them dies and the other one's saying take me with you when you go. I don't WanNa be alone. After I had had lost my grandmother. My grandfather was still alive and we always make the joke with a little bit tears in our eyes. We promised never to do it. He would do. He would stand on the front porch at his house and would watch US drive away and so when you saw the Review Mirror you saw him standing there alone and now when we we kiss and hug Chris when he was living when he was going away to school and we would shut the door we would. Yeah we're not grandma love you go and Ed so that made me law so yeah And when Chris was in college there was Landho- during something really special that he and I share so when I hear it live I always hear a little bit so I i. I can imagine 'cause even even if you've not lost someone close to here Bruce. Talk about the band and then Clarence Yeah and how much it meant to him and then to but when you put that in context of losing someone you love love. I imagine that is very very hard in a beautiful way but still it's emotional absolutely absolutely absolutely a WIS jest comp- because I was one of those people that just didn't read anything about it before it went. Yeah it I just. I didn't want to know anything about. I wanted to go in blind right in here. It for myself for the first time Sawyer. I live through social media. I'm not I'm not not not dominant redick Donna Honorific del Rey Day so it was just just hit the way that he talked about. And Yeah She's are real unserved so real for a lot of this yeah I lost it during the wish to hear him the pain of his mother. What she's going? Yeah Yeah Yeah and then And I still. You'll get goosebumps just recently at his You he just did the Santa for Heroes Bit yes he. He does the dancing in the dark into land of dreams and I tear up hearing that Combo each time. Yeah just on that guitar when you hear the stories about how much his mother loved to dance and how you do that is just a one two punch enjoyed of emotional. Yeah happiness at the same time a Gut Punch so yes absolutely so doc Karen I take it you did go to dinner that first night. Right to fly that. I haven't seen a bruce so low kostic. Yeah Gig I never never got to Tom Jari devils and dust doors and I would just just absolutely to just. I need need to see that I loved what he did at ruled. Why just I would just love to see a silo? Toll a adjusts I. I need to see satellite. Yes absolutely I I totally agree. It was it because you know seeing them in devils and dust I am. I had a friend that you know. He said if there was he says when I picture if Bruce was a a guest lecturer at a university hall. That's what I see him doing. I see him sitting there in the lecture. All students and with a guard Itar in east talking being telling him in play the songs and talking about them so absolutely yeah Any other stories from the TRIPS YOU WANNA share have any okay. Well always worry there there is. He's a wonderful guy. I will not give his name. But at the end of the podcast we ended. We closed. It was a really good podcast and he says Oh. You know next time I should tell you about the time. I went drinking with Easter band. What how did you tell the story so I always have to ask? Is there a story that you are thinking of. How did you bury the lead on that? Trust me if I would eastern band. That'd be the first thing I told anyone and Churchill. It's a good. How're you doing? Fine with the ban. WanNa hear it. You've already said you'd love to see him solo but are are there a wishlist of songs that you haven't heard him perform live that if we get it to her in twenty twenty which we're hoping we do. Oh man if he heads down south or you decide to travel. Is there something you wish you could hear. I actually got my wishing Australia last. Sorry my wishes always been secret garden. Nice so the whole Australia talk. Because that's the first time I've ever actually done a toll Zora on the ethical wall nor two gigs before but The last Australian toll was the first time. I've actually actually been on tour with him so I carried the garden. Sign around with me the whole time the the whole time every show on their the front with my secret and had flowers on it and all sorts and you can imagine being on the rail for multiple shows by the time I got to the SEC. Can on the third to Lashari. The flowers have Saudis to drop off in the sign was looking a little again. Sure and in the Melbourne at the melt one of the Melbourne ones he actually saw the sign an update and went on my as going to play it but he didn't know north signs full in debate. So I don't know how much longer this side to give. I'm sorry we got to Brisbane the first night of Brisbane with Valentine's Day and I didn't take the sign because assign gotten trashed by this time multiple multiple concerts multiple flights being folded into a suitcase. It was gonNA. I just couldn't take it and he did see Croghan. Oh that's awesome Like that's it that's it I'm done now. I'm happy now. That is wonderful How many shows was that tour that. How many shows did you go to? I think he did fourteen Australia New Zealand. I went I was Gonna I think. How many did you make Tunein so I didn't do? The Earth wants but did the Melbourne Sydney Brisbane. New Zealand's Awesome Sh. Yeah I'm I'm jealous I I would love that and I always bring this up as an example I I work for a new company now but my job before. Last the owner of the company was very successful and He was in in his sixties. And you see him getting to work like at seven thirty launch Saturday mornings. And he's working all the time and And very successful man. That's why he successful. I'm saying I'm telling you right now if the millions and I'm taking Makinson time off I'm heading down to Australia. And just do Ho tour. I'M GONNA take three month vacation and just see you know. Catch every show show it in between shows. I'm seeing this beautiful country. That's what I would do as well. That is awesome. I I that is a great story. S- okay. Let's talk about the Mary question For those of you who listen to podcast before we have. J Armstrong is a English teacher or in the US and he does. A whole dogs are waking. Yes happy the I love that the he teaches a whole chapter on thunder road and he after you know takes two days for them to cover it and they look at the imagery and they they treat. Thunder road is if it was a point and then at the end. He asks his students this Mary getting the car so caring. That is your question getting a car. No you don't think so. No okay why not. I think she think Mary is too scared. Yeah I think she is afraid of Afraid of change is failing secure where she east. I'm not sure what the future might bring you. She got in the car. Yes I I understand that that is I think I think that's very insightful because one of the things that is is unspoken in this world every choice means you're every time you choose something you're not choosing something else when you when you select something you're you're not you're denying something else and and I think that is afraid I think it it is. It could be very scary to walk across the front porch to my front seat right Yeah and it's Linda will tell you besides she's saying hey you're not a beauty but hey you're on I don't WanNa guy some beauty. Yeah yeah that's awesome carrying this absolutely lovely. I this has been. I hope you've enjoyed talking. This is just beautiful. Any final thoughts Eight I guess role. SORTA waiting for news of next year of what might happen. I it would be wonderful To needs out with everybody. Can I think that's the as pot all what we do. As springsteen funds on our community I ate swell going to a bruce springsteen e street band concert is the absolute absolutely reason why we will travel the way that we do Meeting the fans meeting our family. He's he's is Paul fat too. You know it truly is scare Linda. I'm like you know you ever come to Dallas. We'll just you know people bring your sleeping bag. Pillows will throw covers on the floor. You know. We'll figure it out you you don't fans how bad can they be. You know we feel. We feel absolutely absolutely like you're my sister. I feel like yeah brother I you know like And especially after you start talking like the way you and I have ensured laughter shared parts of feel a connection and and I've said this to people when people have asked me about the podcast I go. I don't know I guess maybe grateful dead but I you know I and I and I think the Beatles are amazing. I think youtube is all these other. But there's something about Springsteen in his fandom make it unique of steering stories and the the emotional bonds we have each other. I very very yes. I think I think it's I think you know what you said. It's the emotional bond. I'm going to see you tomorrow. Yeah I'm I'm on I'm following the Ut pages the fan pages where they're all traveling from all over the world and all together but they they don't talk the way that we talk. Yes they have that emotional connection auction right that I think that Bruce Funds do it is different. I I I totally agree I I the your is. We and Linda will listen every once in a while and go. Wow you really tear a lot about yourself on the podcast. Odd Gas and I'm like I don't know any other way to do it but it is. I think it's it's the symptom of he shares so much of a self or at least the tone of himself you know he makes the joke about. It's his magic trick. And he's yeah yes. Yeah Yeah. He's made it all up the yeah. Where's it come from? Yeah and I when he was on the VH1 storytellers. The you know the thing where he talked about was I feeling was I thinking of when I wrote it. Maybe but I was feeling all of it. Exactly Has Western stars made it down there knowing what you don't WanNa know batting Lalo not full. It is amazing it it is. We might have to have you back on when after you see it and we can talk about. I say when it would yes I just so you know I would not I had heard about rhinestone cowboy and I would not try to find a cut of it before that saw the film I was like no I. Can't I want to be surprised by this so I totally get that. So Karen arguing any social media at all if someone wants to reach out to you on facebook instagram. I have a young Bruce Stole can page I I I sort of put up. I sold a started it when I did the The ALLSTON 'cause Okkas never done a toll before it would be good just for me to keep my memories but Yeah so I've got that little page. I if I wanNA find on Graham they wanna find out what's the name so I'm up there is Sammy Kaye baton. Okay bye sorry everything East Sammy Caillebotte and I'm Sammy Kaye Boston on on facebook instagram. And my sort of little told log pages semi K.. Bolton I think I changed the name of it now that I changed thanks than to stalking bristle something all right. I'll find it and and things okay. Good all alright so hang tight. Why do a little business if you want to be in the PODCAST and Share a little bit of yourself and share some laughter and joy. You can reach chopped to me I am on twitter at Jesse Jackson. DFW The show is at set lesson. Bruce we have a web page. WWW settlers listen bruce dot com. And we're on facebook. Let's see Bruce. And you can email me set less than Bruce G mail DOT COM and we can work out a schedule and you could join us because I want to hear your story. I want to hear your thoughts. 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Just Tell A Story... - Thursday NOTSAM Thursday

Notsam Wrestling

1:02:14 hr | 9 months ago

Just Tell A Story... - Thursday NOTSAM Thursday

"Is Introducing your host from from New York. Here is real hers Thursday. Not Sam Thursday. What way too close out Thursday and celebrate the last day of the week the working week anyway is upon us? The best way to close out Thursday early Thursday Nazism Thursday. We've got a lot to celebrate. I know listen to some wrestling podcast. A lot of gloom and doom wrestling should be better. Why aren't they doing this? Why aren't they doing that? And we'll have critiques six here today. We'll have suggestions here to make today but wrestling's going through a boom period I mean wwe financially in the shape that it's in we have for the first time since WCW a realistic secondary secondary mainstream promotion for the first time since the realistic secondary mainstream promotion was announced. We actually really have hope in ring of honor. We've got new Japan over here getting ready to run the states again in a real way. We've got the end of a over here keeping everybody interested in studio wrestling and we've got an environment where independent in organizations like game. Changer wrestling like I see. W just name a few here in New York can actually survive. Make some money and put on shows that people can watch on their phones live. It's an incredible time to be wrestling fan. And that's the macro picture. The the micro picture it's Thursday and there were too too fabulous wrestling shows on last night to if you watch him both get some. DVR action four hours of fabulous wrestling going long on last night. And I mean talking about Rar smackdown. That's the Golden Age that we live in right now. Wrestling is going through a boom period. And we should had never forget that we can complain. We can critique we could say but when we critique let's say what do we do better right. I mean it's incredible and all this all this without Johnson Johnson though still trending and what's Nice about John Cena is that as he becomes a bigger and bigger star. Dr He still whether you talk about it or not. Look at this jacket. I'm wearing once again. Wardrobe by Chalk Line by the fine folks at Chalk doc line okay my one breast it says Austin Three Sixteen on my other breast. It says the rock when you start running down superstars of an era hulk Hogan in the eighties into the early nineties you will never not associate. WWe With Hulk Hogan we move in to the late nineties approaching the two thousands. You will never never not associate stone. Cold Steve Austin and the rock no matter how big the rockets with wwe and as we get in to the last ten years or or or so you will never not associate wwe with John. Cena I already see in the discord room. People are watching. WWE front row says wrestling fans are enjoying an embarrassment. Embarrassment of riches I agree Sam. It really is embarrassing. You know how good it is to be a wrestling fan right now. There is no need to defend it. You know why because there's so so much wrestling to watch. I don't see how a fan could possibly have time in his day or her day to argue with a non on fan and and even better we have access to so much content. No matter who you're trying to convince you not gonNA make everybody a fan but if somebody's looking at you as if pro wrestling has no merit within sixty seconds one minute you pick up your phone and through various apps find something to prove them wrong that would even make them say. Oh wow you got something. I was just in an argument on the radio this week with the host of UFC. UNFILTERED MATT SARAH UFC legend. Wonderful guy kind of takes some shots at wrestling sling at the same time talking about. How great demand delorean was he said? What so I can pretend to get hit? I said No. It's it's much better to go home and pretend to watch spaceman. Look here's the point. I'm not here to disrespect the delorean or anything in the Star Wars Universe but we can make equivalences. That's all I'm I'm saying you don't disrespect this. I want to suspect that it's it's beautiful. It's a beautiful time is what I'm saying. The Johnson the reason that I bring him up is because he was trending he. He was all over twitter. I wake up about four thirty every morning to go do morning radio and I get up. I take a shower. That's a nice visual for all of you and and And then I go downstairs and while I'm drinking my green juice to start the day because his body didn't create itself while I'm drinking my green juice news. I start looking through twitter. Seeing what's trending because I don't want to jump on the radio airwaves and sound like an ignoramus. I need to know what the folks are talking about. And and it's really funny because every morning about five. Am I have to scan through. All the K pop trending tweets. I don't know how many of you guys are up that early east coast time but I think it must have to do with the time difference or whatever it is but every day literally every day between four thirty. AM and five thirty a M probably ten of the top twenty trends are k pop and bts related. Trent that's when all CBS stands are up BTLS. One of the Great K pop groups there is right now and bt s and K pop just a global phenomenon. Well John Cena and I know you're sitting there going Sam. Are we going to your routine now. No this is all coming back. This is not saying I'm wrestling okay. It's all coming back to John. Cena he was James Corden show last night and he was Osama January Jones. WHO's on the late show? Of course James Corden does the format where there's multiple celebrities almost like a panel until it was David Johnson January Jones January Jones of course Horsa she was on mad men. Play Don Draper's wife she's been in a bunch of movies since then you know if you see her but she posted a picture with bt 's But came across sounding like a bit of a clout chaser because she went on the show and she said I didn't even know who these guys are except that a whole bunch of bodyguards so I want to get a photo with them and seriously like if you watch the video when she goes. I didn't know who they were but they had a nine bodyguards so so I took a picture with them because who knows maybe the president or something Johnson looked pest. He looked pissed because number one he didn't get to meet BTS and number two because she didn't know who they were and number three objectified them in that way. Listen to this. Exchange range went. James Corden opened the Florida John. CENA and said you're bts fan. Right listen to this using our legitimate and this isn't listen to your legitimate means. Yes you're so lucky yeah. He's talking to January Jones when he says you are so lucky realistically the way Johnson feels about bt S.. I'm looking at James Corden. WHO's talking to John Cena and I'm like you are so lucky to have John Cena with that movie star cough in in that three piece suit talk? I mean if you could tell me Sam you're GonNa need to leave your life behind but you can hang out with John Seen every day. I probably just have to do it. He's got amongst. You're so lucky in that pitcher. I try not to be their bodyguards cut. I didn't even make it really. I'm not really all what is it you love about so i. I became interested in the fact that like January Jones. A hater here. Yeah please. That's a hater. That's hater talk okay. She's over you're saying they go like it's ridiculous Johnson. BTS that's hater with a capital Oh h eight their Korean and John Cena what a gentlemen for putting up with pop band and they were the first Korean pop end actually connect connect everybody throughout the world. They have fans throughout the world. So I'm being in live entertainment. It's interesting how did they do this. And then I began to listen to their music and listen to the message sent to their fans. And it's one of self love and self reflection and being confident in yourself even though you may be different so not only are is like the choreography and the development of personalities and the whole entertainment that they put on spectacular. Young people are listening to their music and they're sending a good message through. Come on how can you not just sit there and say Johnson is the greatest human being alive. He's incredible he wows me all the time. The love affair. I have with this man I mean. Here's my point though number one. It's it's phenomenal to see Johnson. Seen trending all over twitter. He is now traversing through the wrestling. Fans into mainstream Hollywood all the way to Cape op fans in which genius about Johnson is that John Cena did not see this k pop trend and jump on it. You know what I'm I'm saying like this isn't happening in the last like six months the Johnson has decided he's a beat. ESPN because he sees that they're popular. Because I mean I don't know how many of you guys are so much wrestling. It's difficult to keep up with what's going on in pop culture but is not unknown in the United States of America. You get phone call pops of Barnes and noble. You know I mean. They're huge even American American now but before they were huge in America Johnson was on twitter and on his instagram singing their praises because he knew because he knew. Even if this band isn't isn't huge in America number one they probably will be a number two. They're huge in other parts of the world that have massive populations and this I believe is a lesson that Johnson learned in the. WWe To me me this has wwe thinking all over it and Johnston. That's why he was so successful for so long he just gets it John. CENA is not sitting there thinking thinking about what's going on. In his bubble Johnson is not sitting there thinking about the people immediately in front of him the same way I talk about You know playing not to your audience in the building but to your audience behind the camera at home because that's the bigger audience. What's the bigger audience here? What's the bigger play? Johnson is thinking globally the same way. WWE wwe held a massive event in the UK this week to announce that they were going from Sky Sports over to bt Sport I mean I'm I'm not over there obviously a lot of people saying this very good move for wwe. But I lived in England for four years and I grew up with. WWe On sky sports now. out there on bt Sport and it's got the whole ww package it's going over there but they they blew that ring. They put matches. Shame has had a match over there. Then lights and Pyro all the British media you got to interview all these people huge event but in America we didn't even know about it. You know why you know why. WWe goes to all that effort because they understand that the UK market is huge for them. I'm literally I'm sitting there right and I'm talking to my my My trainer at the gym and I got her to start start watching wrestling in May so she knows all everything that happened in. WWe from May until now. She's a genius at anything before me when punk came back for. WWE backstage she goes. What's the big deal with that? Who is that man? What's the guy from Chicago? I was like okay. We got a lot to do. But you know you're here to teach me not the other way around so point being earn what my point was actually all. She's telling me that she goes. Oh I thought it was like a small thing but then and you know I have a family friend and she was here from like Africa or something and that's the one thing we had in common. She knew everything she knew. Jake the snake Roberts Dusty Rhodes and Hulk Hogan's knew everything about wrestling because WWe speaks to a global audience. The same way you know when you look at Hollywood and when a movie comes out and they tell you what the release you you know how much the movie made in a weekend. It's one thing to do well in America but the number of the people really look at is the global release you know. That's why the the premier in China for example is so important for so many movies because there's so many people over there and John Sina understood. A veteran with Johnson decided to take upon himself to learn Mandarin. He speaks Mandarin just because because he knows what that market is not just for wrestling for entertainment he saw bts and he said this is a group that has a positive message. He wasn't I don't think he would be on that show. But who speaks to a massive massive global audience maybe not an American audience yet. And I know I'm in America but they speak to a global audience Johnson's ability to think globally is what made a success and wwe and what is going to make him a success outside of wwe because the rock things the same way the rock thinks globally. And and. I don't think that's instinct for very many people. I think that that's something that that being in the WWe accompany that truly thinks exclusively. I mean you know look at the international papers. They've done they. They are thinking about fan bases globally and how to to expand that business when United States. TV ratings start to dip because technology is changing because less people watching TV because habits. Change whatever reason it is they go. Okay we'll if our. US business is dipping like this. What if we can get over into this country or that country and and and expand expand and expand? And that's a lesson that you know. I think that we can all take away to think on that level not all of us can do something globally. You know what I mean. But what is the truly bigger picture of whatever it is that you're doing you know the we don't always need to look at what's directly in front of of our faces because that that road to real success might be just over the horizon that's Johnson and thanks and I just think it's such a great thing so that was my reflection on John. Cena on James Corden show. I wanted to say rest in peace to rocky Johnson. We're talking about the rock. Of course the father. The Rock the son-in-law to the high chief Peter my via Rocky Johnson passed away this week. Rocky Johnson an absolute oh I con seventies wrestling of Madison Square Garden era. WWW the soul man. You know nobody who grew up around that time you talked to anybody who's probably four wordy mid forties and above all of them all of them remember Rocky Johnson Rocky. Johnson is one of those names like when you start naming especially here on the east coast the you know the. WWW www WWF audience at the time. Like when they were kids like the Madison Square Garden crowd. When you start naming wrestlers in the seventies I mean? It doesn't take long to get there. You start talking about guys Bruno you start talking about guys like you know while who mcdaniel but real quickly you get to rocky Johnson. Rocky Johnson radiated charisma rocky Johnson came out there looking like he was carved out of rock and Brandon. I mean you just go through Google image and you look at pictures of this guy in flexing in the by looked amazing. You know. It's not a mystery when you when you watch him in the ring where the rock got all that charisma from because I mean immediately he connected with the audience and this was at a time where people weren't so accepting think of cultural differences. Shall we say you know not everybody was. It was quite as educated as they are. Now you know not. Everybody saw things the way they should have been seeing them rocky. Johnson I think for for a lot was able to get past that hurdle and speak to people on a human level just because of that that athleticism charisma and just the just the instant connection. You can see it when you go on Youtube. And you watch these rocky Johnson matches. You could see the instant connection that this guy has with the audience of of course he tony. Atlas were a Mr USA. Tony Atlas the first Black tag team champions and that was a huge deal at the time and and something that is still gets talked about. Today is a hall of Famer Believed Iraq put him in And have have you want you know if you if you're a little younger than that you can even go back to wrestlemania thirteen wrestlemainia thirteen. I believe it was in Chicago. Illinois wrestlemania thirteen feel the heat heat. It was rocky my via versus the sultan and Rocky Johnson had a cameo in that match rocky. Johnson did a run in at the end. The thing so huge respect props everything to the late great rocky Johnson and I mean you know. It's no mystery. The impact that this guy had on the world of professional wrestling when the minute news of his passing when in out there everywhere everywhere everybody had memories and yes. Of course you're going to talk about the fact that he was the father of one of the biggest wrestler of all time and the most famous person to ever come out of wrestling. You're gonNA mention the fact that he's the rocks father but I was so pleasantly surprised to see that really. All of the sort of memorial tweets and facebook posts and you know podcast blurbs and whatnot. The went out about rocky. Johnson were all memories of this Guy Rocky Johnson and I mean it does everything when when rocky my via showed up and he said I'm the I'm the son of Rocky Johnson. Maybe some of the kids who that was but for the most part the reason he did that was because of the clout that name carried to the wwe audience people instantly new especially in New York so recipes to rocky ocoee Johnson. Of course to the entire dwayne Johnson extended. Johnson okay. I don't want him to say extended Johnson but the entire higher Johnson family and He's to is. They're married in thinking about you guys in Yeah rest in peace to rocky Johnson and You Know Corey Graves. Made Headlines Through his tweets this week. He's watching raw and he said fire me a Mardi fired the you know the Rick flair quote core gracious drumming up some press for that podcast. His I listen to it of course after the battle of this week the official. WWE podcast after the bell and Dan Corey was on their criticizing raw. And you know I mean it's like it's kind of what we do right Monday night into Tuesday is the time to criticize raw and I mean a lot of times. It's fair right. Roy's having some growing pains in my opinion right now but I thought it was odd that this week's raw was the hill to die on. You know I thought that was odd. This week's raw was the was the the real you know agree GIS episode went to me you know. Compared to recent episodes I thought this week's episode was was decent. This week's episode wasn't the worst I've seen recently. You know I didn't really have a problem you know. I think it's interesting because I had a problem. With the premise of the first ever fistfight. I thought it was cheesy the way they were advertising. The first ever fistfight. I you know I I thought it was They they might have been misreading being the audience to think that any of us would care about a fistfight when we watch wrestling fights like why are we care about a fistfight. What's the difference between a fist fight? In a last man standing match. I guess the only difference being a fistfight and last man standing match is that in a fistfight the referee decides when it's over and doesn't actually count so it's basically a last man standing match except Counting I could have been worded a lot differently but I thought the match itself was cool. I thought and I thought great outcomes from it. Look I said this about keithly and Adam call on annex t when you can get a mean it is twenty twenty okay when you can get a meam came out of a segment that last through Tuesday and beyond successful segment in twenty twenty entertainment. Entertainment is a three second loop. You need to mean it just Mimi it. And the fact that you had Kevin Owens thinking he was in Tony Hawkes pro skater running up the screen ramp and then flipping off of it onto his opponents. That's all you need it for the segment to be a success. mean you gotta mean seem out of it. I can text that to my friend who doesn't watch wrestling and he could be like what the hell is that. And then they add a little skateboard to it and you can add little things to it and you could really just. I mean just make it as Dang as humanly possible. Just the dentist memes but when you can when you can mean out a segment to at least some degree. It's a success. I thought Buddy Murphy joining up with Seth Rollins and kind of waiting there and disillusionment sitting at ringside. I thought that was good. I'm glad that he's joining rollins. Because I love the fact that there is a faction I've been saying for like years at this point that factions Sion's are a good thing they're sorely missed. WWe needs them. You know I think when. You've got a guy like seth rollins does he need to be in a faction. No but a seth rollins led faction is he's going to be better news for the authors of pain and it's going to be so much better news for Buddy Murphy like I'm not GonNa sit there and turn on raw every week and just watch him lose to Alastair Black no matter how good the matches. Eventually something's gotTa give and something did give this week. We got to wrap up. We've got a reason you know it's easy to watch wrong like like no matter. How Good Buddy Murphy? Now Black is why. Are we watching the same match every week. Okay the answer is because Buddy Murphy has to lose to Alastair Black a few times before. Oh He's so broken. Did he joins with Seth rollins and were there and I'm like okay that makes sense that makes sense. I'm happy with it so I was happy with the ending I think. The the drew McIntyre a baby face. Good guy turn. That's happening right. In front of our eyes is subtle and ineffective people are cheering drew McIntyre. That's good one of the criticisms Corey Graves head though it was big was on the Bobby Lashley rousseff seven-match and he's right. He's right when he criticizes. He says that he's watching it. And everybody's sitting on their hands nobody's reacting to what's going on and that is true when when you do is segment and nobody's reacting to what's going on. You're in a lot of trouble but I don't I don't I don't think that the reason that nobody's reacting to it is because the wedding was a failure because by that same logic if you watch the wedding. The the crowd was lit the whole time. You know for the people who are like. We don't want Jerry Springer TV. Will the crowd was chanting Jerry. They were booing Lana they. were cheering A live booing Lashley. They were cheering rousseff. The wedding segments itself was effective by all definitions that this this match was ineffective for the life of me. I don't know why live Morgan. Who's got all this hype behind her? Would come out and get beaten up by Lana Donna. Who has absolutely no history of being a of of a of force in the ring you know a lot of it has no history in the wwe that would lead anybody to being like? Oh you don't want to mess with her in the ring right so I don't know why she would be able to manhandle. Live Morgan and then we as fans are expected to think next week. Alana's in trouble. 'cause I watch that and I go okay. rousseff have picked poorly. 'cause lawn is not in trouble because she could just kick live Morgan's ass. That's the message that I got from that segment so that was done but I think the reason that people were sitting on their hands was because it's been two weeks since the wedding and there's no reason for the match like they just announced this week. Hey by the way later after the break we're GONNA do RUSSA versus Lashley and you're sitting there going. We really really have like ten weeks of storyline so one night we could turn on wrong. Go like Oh this matches happening you know. I think that the problem is actually actually. You haven't kept going with the story line like you have to make a choice to me. Either you go with the story line or you. Don't go with the story line and I don't think you can take the storyline so far and then just drop it into the match and you're like okay and then next week we're doing the mixed tag match like you. You Know I. I don't know it feels like like the timing of this thing was not thought out. I think that based on what happened at the wedding eating and the things that have happened leading to the wedding you could convince people to care. You could convince people to care about that match. But you can't just I have the match. I know that people want to believe that all you need to do is have good matches on TV. But it's that's wrong. It's is not true. People don't watch that nobody cares wrestling. That's not why people watch wrestling. The the reason people watch wrestling and is because of the stories that are told even when you want like a new Japan show the best matches are the ones where you can you can see a story. That's unfolding unfolding in the ring in front of your eyes even if you don't quite understand like if there's a language barrier in the promos or it's just a wrestling heavy show that doesn't mean there's not stories being told and I don't think that roosts ever bobby Lashley a hundred percent know what story they're telling when when all of a sudden there's just a match between the two of them you know what I'm saying I think that raw needs to double down on storytelling. Doing the reason. Lana and Bobby Lashley wedding. Had everybody talking was because of this story behind it. You know the reason that people enjoy the seth rollins things so much. It doesn't matter about the fist fight. You got me out of the fistfight. That's good but the story of Buddy Murphy joining the Monday Monday Night Messiah and the fact that there is now this stable and by the way I there are people that are now comparing like I saw online. People are saying like Oh maybe them Monday night. Messiah stable is we were talking about this in the discord room by I think the WWE front row. And Maybe S V O or one or two Gimmick Street or some of the guys is there in the discord room by the way if you want access to the not same wrestling discord room where we're talking about the stuff. All the time just sign up on patriots in less than a dollar a week Patriot dot com slash. Not Sam wrestling when you get access to the discord room in any tier so but you know we were just talking about the fact that there are some that are you're the they're saying number one that the Monday night Messiah faction is an answer to the dark order in a w and number or two that the Rob Roberts stone brand on annex t is like a Tony Kahn Rabe or something like that. which both of those are are dumb? WWE is not Vince. McMahon is not aware of the storylines happening in Asia. W I would be willing into place money on that. He doesn't know visiting meet doesn't know the dark orders. I would be willing to put money on that you listen to any interview. You talked to anybody that's ever worked with that man and nobody has ever said that he watches the competition. In fact they've all said the opposite he only only watches his own stuff and he's the one signing the thing on everything. So I think that Seth rollins faction if you're going to compare it to any faction it's more like the straight edge society. I guess than anything else but like it's it's like the nexus. It's very similar to the nexus. Did you have set. Faction is and it's really told been told very well. And it's not a rip off of anything. Seth rollins came out on raw. He was the locker room leader and he was getting booed and he said Hey. I'm still the locker room leader. WHO's with me? And everybody walked out on him except accept the author's a pain to set. Rollin is trying to still be that locker room leader that he was before but these are the only people that are at his side ride. That's what the Monday night Messiah is. And I think that that story's been told very well but again if you just had you know. Hey it's Sanfer Seth rollins versus Kevin Owens. You'd be like what tonight. Oh all right okay you know you wouldn't. You wouldn't have that excitement that anticipation the elements of raw with with stories. But I think you have to go even harder. You know. I think that the Becky Lynch Oscar story for example. I think that a wonderful amazing even better than we've seen video package needs to be told the the root of the story three of Becky Lynch and Oscar. I feel like hasn't been driven home. I feel like that match has everything you tell this story. Three of becky Lynch who's this competitor on the rise and she showed up to the royal rumble to try to win the smackdown women's championship chip and she lost. She lost to Oscar. She did not beat Oscar. She tapped it out at the royal rumble. Later on that night. She's not even entered in the match and she decides to come back enter the match Finley gave her the okay and she wins. Winning that match took her to wrestlemainia where she was able to pin. Ronda Rousey to not only take the raw women's Championship but Charlotte's smackdown women's championship that she had one from Oscar. Oscar was ignored after the royal rumble. Oscar was given no credit to the fact that she made the winner of the royal rumble tap after Becky Lynch won both titles when Becky to belts arose Oscar was given no credit for the fact that she made becky lynch tap APP in the months and weeks cents every time. Becky Lynch has been in a ring with Oscar. She hasn't beaten her and Oscar. The has beaten becky multiple tag matches. Becky has never beaten ASCA. Oscar has beaten becky on other occasions so now one year later we get to the Royal Rumble Twenty twenty and Becky Lynch arguably the biggest star in wwe. Her and Roman reigns are the two biggest stars. I don't even think that's arguable. But becky not Lynch maybe the biggest female star in history. Somebody who's beaten everybody. Somebody who's had that raw women's championship since sense Wrestlemainia now goes one on one with the woman. The for the last year has been the only woman that she's never been able to beat. And that's Oscar. Meanwhile Oscar has transformed herself to the point where she's not looking for approval anymore. OSCO was ignored Nord and she puts a position along with Katie Sane. Her fellow Kabuki Warrior where she can't be ignored anymore. She's put herself in a position where you can try to ignore if you want. But I won't be ignored. She's got the green missed. She's a bad guy. She's feared again. Oscar and coyotes sane have added value to those women's tag team championship. That wasn't isn't there. They're the only team that's done that. And now we get to the royal rumble and a year in the making we finally have the championship rematch between Oscar and Becky Lynch but the title is on the other waste. You mean to tell me that anybody. I told that story to is not going to get interested in this match. If you told that story to anyone I don't care if they haven't watched wrestling in ten years they're coming to your house for a Royal Rumble Party and and you explain to them the way I just explained to you what's going on in this match. They're all in their here for it all my God. I can't wait to see. See this thing because they all know becky Lynch's but they might not know this story and they might not know who it is and the fact that they all know becky Lynch's and they don't know who ask Aska is is the entire story in a nutshell. That story needs to be driven home. I WANNA see the chip on Oscar Shoulder. I WanNa see the venom in her heart for the fact that she did not get what she had due to her. I want to see the fear in Becky. Lynch is is because she knows that is because the one person she hasn't beaten and can't and has beaten her that match it has the potential to be the greatest story told at the rumble this year. But you've got one episode of Monday night raw left to make them L. Look Wrestlemania twenty-seven my least favorite Wrestlemainia of all time headline match. which was John Cena versus the Ms? But you know what the one thing about that match was Mrs WWe championship reign was not something to shine a spotlight on. He won the title. He definitive against Jerry. The King Lawler in a pay per view main event event and then he went to Wrestlemainia. I mean come on. Then that years Wrestlemainia ends with the Rock Lane both John Cena and the MS out. All's well that ends well it lead us where we're going but in the meantime that moment not great I did not leave that wrestlemainia going. Oh that was so awesome. I was like what I'm going to bed. But but the one thing that put faith in me and I ended up. Maybe I shouldn't have had faith but the one thing that caused me to have faith in that match was the video package. The played before the match for the Miss Miss the video package that told the story of the MS set to P.. diddy Puff Daddy. Bad boy family. You can hate me now and getting goosebumps just thinking about it if you haven't seen that video package package. We haven't seen it in some time. Go back and watch it. Used to watch every six months just because it's my favorite video package. WWE has ever produced. And that tells you how good it is the fact that my favorite video package the wwe has ever produced was the intro to the main event to my least favorite wrestlemainia all time. That's how good this packages and it goes to. The MRS is a story and it goes through him on the real world it goes through him showing up. WWe being a cheese ball Ryan seacrest Faux Hawk host. You know now they try to tell the story of you know Ms Morrison together as if it was this great thing but it wasn't at first wrestling in his dumb shorts with glitter on him with his Fedora and going through the phases and getting to the place where he was at walking into Wrestlemainia. Twenty seven were all of a sudden you went. Oh my God the MS has arrived all my God. The person who is not supposed to be here here all my God. They said it couldn't be done and he's done it. He may just be John CENA tonight. Now it ended up being disappointment but the point is that video package. And maybe that's what you utilize to tell this story between Oscar and and and Becky Lynch but something because you've got a story there and I think that that's an emphasis all wrestling shows need to have you know I think Awa got terrific horrific news this week eight W got their contract extended on TNT for three more years there on TNT until two thousand twenty. Three which I mean when I tell you and I can only speak to my my own experience hosting radio show. I host my show with Jim Norton on Sirius. Xm We signed on three and a half years ago and when we signed to do a morning show we signed a two year contract and those two years were basically spent building the show and going like. Let's see what this is. Let's see if we've got something here and you know you can criticize Awa now but I think the shows that Jim and I were doing at the beginning were terrible. I would never and maybe you know I don I would never go back and go like oh you should listen to like the first two years Jim and Sam. I didn't like but I also. Yeah no that we were growing. The first year was worse than the second year because every day I know I was improving. Jim just improves constantly. But but we were learning. I was learning after the two years. Were Up. We signed a three year deal with Sirius. XM three year extension. And that's that's when I realized that you know the company had confidence in us is a show and that we had three years of runway to really develop. And that's when I think the show show really started to get popping and good because in my mind I was like okay. We've got room to grow here. There's not so much pressure to do something right. Now we've got a guarantee we've got we've got we've got a field here and I think that that is how I would hope. That Awa really utilizes three year contract is to start telling some stories that you can really towel over time. You know. They got talent. They just signed Taza commentator tator. They're going to have a second show. which hopefully I mean? I know. I'm not alone six. Oh Five PM on Saturday night as your timeslot boom but we'll see if they can get it done. I'm sure cody wants that TAP. But that's Awa needs to do you know I'm watching annex t this week and it goes back to the storytelling because both both tag matches incredible incredible tag matches in that tag team tournament next has the is the. NFC is my favorite show of the week every single week. I I love the product annexed is putting out and that's not I mean I'm not schilling because an WWE TV too. I love the product that annexed is putting out the two dusty classic tag matches were Great Alex Shelley. Being back I think is good. I hope he sticks around both for his sake and for Kushida sake who knew how much we would enjoy the The Bro Browser wait wait brochure. Weights Pete Down and Matt Riddle as a team. You know both the the triple threat. cruiserweight match match was great. I'm so glad swerved one I'm really looking forward to seeing what he can pull out at worlds collide and the main event battle royal oil. I mean it was awesome. It was a great showcase of how deep and skilled the women's division is and to be able to bled off in a battle royal main eventing with a battle. Royal is a risky move battle. Royals are not generally speaking great matches their kind of throwaways always more often than not so the fact that you were able to have a main event annex t by the way main event caliber battle royal. I think is is a good thing you know. I was surprised when Bianca Bel Air One. I thought was going to win when he got down to having. Shane obeys lawyer. As a surprise giving shot see the the rubbed to be the one to eliminate Chenab as the whole thing was beautiful Mercedes. Martinez getting in there. Good showcase you know. Even having Robert Stone Take Chelsea Green out of the match saying like you know. We're GONNA leave because you know we're GONNA we're GonNa wait until our towns can really be utilized. Awesome awesome awesome is building anticipation for Chelsea Green. And it's developed character of Robert Stone. It's great terrific. I oh I think that as I was watching. I think that it would serve annex t well four every month that there's not a takeover to maybe do some kind of clash of the champions like super show in an arena or something like that I think if they can get out of full sail like once a quarter even. I think it would be big if you could get some of that live takeover energy on the TV show may even once a quarter. I think it would be a good thing. But I think what annexed he really needs is the same thing that Ronnie's same thing that smackdown needs to same thing. Every wrestling show needs annexed. He he needs stories. I'm excited to see. DIY team up. Again I love the DIY getting back together. But but I haven't been taken on that journey that brought them back together. I don't feel like I've kind of watched it happen and felt like it was inevitable but I don't know if I've been on a journey that's brought them there. I WANNA go on a journey with some of these wrestlers dammit. I don't want to drive alone. I'm going to sit there in the passenger seat. I want the wrestlers to show me all the countryside that they can show me. I want to go on a journey with the superstars annex. T I want blood feud between Leo Rush and swerves Scott. You know I know. It's tough because they got a Concentrate on worlds collide. But I wanNA really see Gargano and Finn Ballard get personal with each other. I WanNa see the undisputed era ruined Tomasz. Oh Chambas life. I WANNA see Tomasz. Oh CIAMPA look vulnerable. If he's going to be a good guy now because he's capable of incredible storytelling the rivalry between Johnny Gargano and Tomasso CIAMPA needs to go down in the history of great rivalries in wrestling that year long storyline. That was told between the two of them and technically it was a lot longer than a year because it really really started when CIAMPA got injured and turned on johnny the first time when diy broker. That's it's the type of story that I want to see unfold if you had that CIAMPA Gargano story going on while he was on USA. Who who you would have been off to the races? That's what I think annexed team needs and xt needs not. I mean they need to have great matches and they will have great matches. That's a given but I know there's no story annex t that I'm tuning in next week to you see when I tune into an X.. T. If there's a specific reason I'm tuning in it's because a match has been announced it's not because Oh i WanNa see what the next chapter chapter is in this really. The same goes for RAW. Because that's why with the rousseff. Lana stuff like the segment. The wedding segment was good. But we're not being told a story where we want to see what the next chapter is. CLIFFHANGERS cliffhangers occurs stories. That are told over chapters annex. T needs it the most if you had storylines that you're sinking your teeth into on a regular basis that show would be unstoppable. Annex t has the best male or female roster in the business of professional wrestling annexed he puts on the best pay per views in their takeovers in anywhere in wrestling and takeovers are the best wrestling shows on the planet. Dan Knit now. You combine those things and they have the best matches. They had the best wrestling matches on television. So imagine if you could combine those positives with having the most compelling stories annexed you'd be unstoppable. My opinion look I mean at the end of the day. It's a TV show. You're not people. Don't watch wrestling for the same reason why they watch football or baseball or basketball basketball. They watch it for the stories I mean. UFC's not even a different. MMA is not sports entertainment enemies. He's just sports. But there's a fight this weekend between Conor McGregor and Cowboy Sarony. It's a conor McGregor fight right and it has the least hype of any conor McGregor. Fight that I've ever seen in my life. You know why because Conor McGregor is subdued. He's not telling a story or he's not talking trash he's going in and he's GonNa have a good fight and purists and fans are going to love it and I'll order the fight because I love Conor McGregor fights but a lot of the mainstream isn't talking about it because there's not a story to tell it's not about Oh we don't need lewd stories. We don't need trashy TV. It doesn't matter if the TV is trashy or not all that matters is if the story is good and you could say like Oh you know. The attitude era may young gave birth to a hand. Yeah but guess. What triple h driving unconscious? Stephanie McMahon to drive-through Wedding Chapel in Las Vegas and marrying her on the eve of her wedding night is just as ridiculous and justice trashy and just as stupid as any of the bad wrestling. Storylines that you're going to bring up but you know what the difference is they did it. Well it was a well told story. That's all these things need to be. They can be trashy they can be lewd they can be. PG They can be subdued they just have to be well told and thought out and thought out over the course of weeks if you can figure out a way to present stories that are well thought out and told over the course of weeks. You'll be unstoppable. You'll be undeniable. You know I mean look look at these movies that are nominated for Oscars the movie parasite sniping in English. You gotta read subtitles and people hate reading. But the story is so great and there's so many twists and turns and it doesn't go where you think it's going that's what makes it special once upon a time in Hollywood. You know what you're watching but you know it's something you know what's leading somewhere and it goes ethin- crazy by the end but you just leave going. What a story? That's wrestling stories now before we get to the emails starting about the Royal Rumble. A little bit and came Velazquez on the UK. Media thing that I was talking about the bt sport deal Cain Velasquez went to England there and he told people that he was also going to be in the royal rumble. Weird that he would just tell the sun that he was going to be in the royal rumble. The Sun the newspaper newspaper not the big bright thing that lights up the sky. He told the son he was going to be in the royal rumble. which I guess is official? Oh I would have thought that maybe they would have had brock listener comment on raw brag about that. He's going to be in the royal rumble. I took out our troops last week. Who's GonNa Come Matt this week came? Velazquez comes out surprises. Everybody announces these in the rumble. That would've made a little more sense to me but que Sera Sera so I guess he's in the rumble which is a little scary. Because it makes you think you may end up seeing came Velazquez versus brock listener match wrestlemainia which goes back to my original point on paper. I don't WanNa see came Velazquez versus brock listener. I don't WanNa see that match wrestlemainia however you could convince me otherwise. I know I know that if you told me a good enough story you could convince man wanted to see that match. You just have to tell me the right story and you could convince me but as of right now I don't WanNa see that match at Wrestlemania you know. I don't. That's not where I want to see the royal rumble go but who knows. Maybe that's where it'll go. It's interesting that no annexed team names have been announced for the rumble. It's even more interesting to me that the assumption was that because this is a co branded show obviously like all pay per views are People assumed that this would be like survivor series. You know most of us are on smackdown. Pay Per view survivor series annexed. He was included people. Assume that the royal rumble because the royal rumble match and x t would be included as well however all the hype has been around worlds collide and takeover Portland nothing about the royal rumble. That said it hasn't officially been said how many superstars from each brand will be in the match which I think is smart and I think maintains the Integrity Gordy and what the royal rumble is because the what the Romell is now. Part of it is the surprises the mystery entrance. And you know I think when you sit there and you announce there are twenty seven entrance in the rumble. And there's three mystery entrance. Okay like the beauty of the royal rumble is that sometimes they they never specifically say how many names they've announced and they never specifically say how many the entrance or mystery entrance. You know what I mean like. They'll announce twenty four names but they won't say and I wonder who the other six are. They'll just say here's who's in the match and it's up to you to county amount and figure out. Oh they haven't announced everybody I. I've always liked that because it also just makes you feel like. You're not sitting there with a checklist who's coming up next. WHO's coming out next next? You're just like anybody could come out. This is the Royal Rumble So all I believe. Xt will still be represented in the royal rumble match. They're going to Houston anyway away. Obviously for worlds collide. So and I'm sure that they'll be in the women's royal rumble match. There's not that many women on Ron smackdown So I would imagine it'll just be what it was last year. I guess surprise entrance as they go unless something changes between now and then. Let's check out those emails. Remember the email address is not sam wrestling at g mail DOT COM NOT SAM wrestling at G. Mail DOT COM No one heard from some you guys. Here's Uh James James says I'm a big Fan of women's wrestling him. Nothing but happy with the progress. WWE's made with their women's evolution even if it should have happened much sooner in fact my favorite favor overall rustler's regardless of Gender Alexa Bliss and Sasha Banks yes recently Good choices recently. Test Blanchard won the world championship. I'm not sure the sends the right message for two reasons. Firstly where pertains to glorifying male and female violence by having these Constant inter-gender matches where you draw the line on which moves Men Can and can't do a to a woman without him looking bad or going too far and secondly with Tessa specifically how small she is you feel like it affects. The credibility of the men lose against their test is is not imposing figure like Charlotte flare China Nigeria Carmen Nicole Bass or even Beth Phoenix. She looks more like a traditional women's competitor so it brock listener looking look bad losing against Tessa. If so the same must be said for many other men. How do you feel regarding a female women's champion? I don't mind it. I know I think Booker T.. was on his pie kissing. It was ridiculous and dumb I and that's a paraphrase. I think that I think it's good that it differentiates TNA all of a sudden TNA has something that makes them different that a woman has won their championship. All things being equal. I think that that's fair. Look you know I. I think that there's no doubt that no matter how hard you push the women's division the world championship is still going to be the world championship. So the fact that you open that up to women and not all women but some special you know giant stars like Tessa Blanchard. I don't think that's a bad thing. Especially in impact where it differentiates its impact wrestling for what it is you know. I don't I don't think that you have to pull the plug on certain moves lose because they look bad or because it sends the wrong message. I think that you just can't let it be one sided. I think that you know if you I wanNA talk about like domestic violence and male on female violence I think as long as the matches are not grotesquely one-sided you'll be okay. I think other than that it all moves refine and I think the size differential you know I I mean I think test is bigger than Marco stunt. You know I think Putting Ramos Stereo in a ring with brock listener is something that happened. You know what I mean and and we sat there. I hope Ramos Stereo Wins Ramos. cheerios much smaller than brock listener. So you know. I think it's all about the level of skill. The female has and the way what she can do. It's how you use your your tools. You know there's not just one way of wrestling so you can come up with an offense that could credibly beat Somebody the size of brock listener. Then I'm all for it but if you don't have that tool that skill set if you don't have those tools in your toolbox then you're probably not the person for the job Let's go to mark So to say this with no sarcasm. Oh wait I'm not sure if this is Well whatever my ten year old son and I are driving up New Hampshire listening to your podcast As we always do in the car you're and you got to my question of course last week mark asked about wrestlemainia being over Oh Yeah He. He did like the ten step. The ten step plan for Keith Lee to win the championship and then throw down the wwe championship held up the NFC championship He got to my question. begrudgingly list my one through ten steps then you finally got to the end to simply say no we had to pull over because we were laughing so hard I appreciate it Sam. Sounds like he's getting into it by the time I'm eight or nine Then you get to number ten with two words instantly crush my dreams dreams. It was done beautifully and I applaud. You have good weekend looking forward to this week's podcast. PS Seriously Sam. How much money do I have to donate get chip chipper sink captive audience show? We'll get one Denmark mark. We're going down in bag bank. You love hearing from you. Jeremy says San Big Fan of the show just wanted to say I agree with your comment. A couple months ago about performers summer using UC in their promos. No one talks like that in real life and I cringe every time you hear it. Keep up the good work dude. You are not going to be able to not here you see anymore. Any Promo that star wrestlers should wear electric trick dog collars and get shocked. Every time they say you see in a Promo you see is the worst to words you could ever say in a Promo Anybody Eddie. That's a young wrestler right now. Independent wrestlers out there a race. You see from your promos a race it from your mind never say it. It sounds like you're acting like a wrestler Carson writes in Sam. I need some advice on what to watch on the network. Can I get your top. Ten paper used to watching the WWE network case on all right case on. I don't think I can give you ten off the top of my head because it is on top of my head unfortunately gently. Maybe that's my own fault but I like to stick to the nineties. Because that's when I grew up I I love Let's see summer slam ninety one an summer slam. Ninety two are both incredible I think Wrestlemainia Wrestlemainia Wrestlemainia. Seventeen is a good watch A wrestlemainia thirty is an excellent watch. I would add onto that list. Let's see Wrestlemainia five. Probably or maybe I'm just thinking about the main event is a is a good pay per view I enjoy survivor series. Nineteen ninety-one because you get to see see the state of flux the WWE was in at the time I think stark aid. Ninety three is the one that has ric flair versus Vader I always liked like that. One uncensored. Ninety five isn't it is terrible. It's insanely bad but it's just there a nuts pay per view and you might have fun on watching that if you're like me and sometimes watch things just because you don't like them Let's see one I like Trying to think it's getting the attitude era a little bit I would say Summer Slam Ninety Sevens pretty good summer slim ninety seven in the meadowlands Bret Hart versus Shawn Michaels. And that's a pretty good ones. There's some that's where you could start. Those are some great papers. They're they're all available on the WWE network. Of course. This podcast is available everywhere that you get podcasts. 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Ep. 3,042: Latest on UFC 249, how Conor McGregor affected by new headliner

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And Yeah goes right. A lot has changed. We're going to discuss that. We actually have a car to look forward to. We have the the event the card one shift already made in the card a little bit of news. That's out there a shift that that might be made on another card. And unfortunately the passing of a fighter from Bela Tor. So we'll discuss all that on. Today's show buckle up folks. Here we go. It's the enemy junkie radio. Show check us out on Wednesdays for the month of April we will be on sports caster. Www DOT sports caster dot com. Check US out at noon eastern nine. Am Pacific or give you an extra anime junkie radio show myself goes manage all right so we're no longer a daily show. We're twice a week Monday and Thursday and sometimes we just have the worse. Look so like on Monday. We kinda told you all. Hey listen the rumor is the word on the street that type of thing what we're hearing is a UC to forty nine is going forward but the fact that we're in a pandemic you just you never know but but we're really hearing from our people our sources that that something might be announced it sure is how was announced Later that day that UC to forty nine was going forward with the new main event of just engaged versus Tony Ferguson. So then guess what folks we kinda sat around and did a lot of stuff and those of you know that we've you know Extended our wings a little bit and we hosted spinning back like every every every week. We kind of held on to doing that because we wanted to talk a little bit more of than stay. It's going down in sure enough. We waited about as long as we could on Monday. And then we taped it a few our our. I think less than half an hour later. We knew the rest of the card. So the rest of the card included Jessica drage Rose Number Unions Jorgen decastro versus Greg. Hardy Lewke resnick Nico Price or basically fights from two forty nine a couple of coming over from the Nebraska on Nebraska's Columbus show including Francis in Ghana. Who Enjoys Rosen struck? So a few other big names Ray Bork Marlin Your Hall Ronaldo Souza. The point is you looked at the Cardinal Goddamn all right so you've seen man right there in business and they're not joking around that that's pretty solid card you'd be you'd be kind of a jerk to complain because you got your title fight. It's for the interim title. Does it need to be for an insurance the whole of the conversation but regardless. That's the card now since then because this is in. Tuesday's we're not daily anymore since then we've lost rose goes We could have actually done this show. Let's say we had done it yesterday. At some point and rose falls off now. We look like numb schools 'til Monday when we can brighten up again. You know so. That's the part that can be a little frustrating. And in fact that's a quick to why you should follow us on social media at Miami Junkie George at the goes or just check out some of the other work that we're doing you know like when we're catching up with other fighters if you see some of those interviews and you see are on the byline. We're doing video interviews with a lot of other fighters and sometimes that that news kind of casually POPs up but yeah anyway You know I I go back. Challenge yourself three days ago. You heard the news. You heard the card. You've had a few days to process it and now we've lost a fighter and I don't think there's a reason as to why rose out right there isn't but I'm pretty sure everybody's leaning towards what's going on anxieties necessarily an injury but just something that makes her feel uncomfortable. Yeah well at the wait and see before we really put ourselves out there on that. But you remember how she dealt with When that card of New York I think it was two. Oh five when when Mcgregor in his henchmen destroyed that bus. Remember rose was really really affected. She went out and she performance. She won but either way I think she took a whole year off and then she took that vicious slam. In Brazil's was almost gonNA retire again. So who knows what's going through her head and I'll give pass. She's Doug Rose for crying out loud. Yeah yesterday we were talking about this. We in the month of April. We now do an extra show with sports. Caster and our sports caster broadcast. We're talking about just. How high of an of a favorite. She is in the matchup right. When we're looking at the odds about minus two hundred to two twenty five. I think this is she got and we were citing the fact that at the end of that last fight. She contemplated not fighting again. I mean she just did not like that. Feeling and You know we brought up some of the psychological issues that she's had ever since that incident Brooklyn so this does not surprise me that much. I was actually shocked that she was going through with an all. Even under these circumstances so see that happen is not that shocking? But that's definitely something It hard to really say like maybe your head's not in it or whatever because I would understand these feelings and I don't think that that'll be the last. I think you might get another fighter. That would maybe do that. Remember these guys still have to clear get guys and gals clear getting a negative test to ride for chronological card? We don't know what it's going to be. You can be a carrier and have mild symptoms for sure Yeah Here's another thing. Yesterday we interviewed France Ghana and Eric. Niksic one of his coaches and one of the questions I asked him was well. Do you guys have any questions for the staff when you get there like I d ever list of high? You expect to be treated in and by that. I mean like you're you're living quarters for the week your where will you train? Will it be on the same Matt as another team? Because Eric and Francis almost have this this Partnership like like a couple. That's dating in a way they committed to only themselves and so only those two went to xtreme couture to hit mitts and do some strength and conditioning and things like that. In fact one day Eric had Francis over to his house. Eric's got three kids goes and a wife. So I think Eric Eric was telling me was okay. Bro He goes. I'm observing the quarantine one hundred percent and I'm only coming out for you. And he probably told the big guy. In Nice words I expect the same from Yuba Guy. You know what I mean. So to the they were still going to contemplate whether they're going to drive versus fly and when they get there What's their checklist? You know what I mean because yeah when you get to the first thing you got to find out do you got it And if you do yet I'm pretty sure you're obviously not fighting and then from there where do you go? You know what I mean all all that. That can't be comfortable. The picture of eighteen year old going to college like. Where's my dorm Do You dad can you? Let's go get a microwave a computer you know what I mean. All that stuff that you just gotTa Kinda set up. You don't know until you kind of get there and I think that tall out of fighters are going to get there so I guess I predict that there might be another match up to falls off. Do you WanNa see Jessica androgen get an opponent or because that was such a high profile matchup in roses. Seri- not seriously hurt. Do you. Would you rather preserve matchup and just kind of say? Hey you too in about a month. I think I'd I would wanna see her getting opponent. I at this point I feel like it would suck to just put in all that time and be that close and not get anything. If we're already going through all these fights I mean I guess I wouldn't mind seeing her getting opponent Jessica's in Vegas by the way she yeah and I wonder if if I'm the C would you say hey girl come over here and let's test you if you got it. There's no sense in saying Yo Angela Hill and I'm joking because she's always the one that subs in late. But if you're going to go through all that trouble at Tachi palace why not call over and say let's test you now if you got it then let's let you chill and we'll worry about you and rose down the road before we even go through all this other stuff right right? Why not? She's in Vegas if she was still in Brazil. Go while we're not going to go from there to here and I think we just tested in Brazil but I heard she's in Vegas so this is I bet you've probably got something similar to what Donald Trump has and he's got the Corona Virus Task Force. I think he calls right. Yeah I think Dana has probably had to come up with whatever that group is called. I think you I think Bert Watson title was UFC site coordinator so he has a site coordinator And then he's you know. Obviously their security team has expanded over the years and they're psych coordinator team. I I I think this probably got to be a little bit of a Task Force for this type of stuff. Because these fighters are going to be bused individually. You know Like private vans. Private cars flown. This is going be interesting now. The UC here. Here's some other news now. Think about it. The AFC announced the card the UC announced they're going forward to UC announced the The new main event it's for the interim title. We're not thrilled about that either. Bees not injured. It's been a year or nothing like that but all right more importantly what I was. GonNa Youtube as they announced the site it's Touchy Palace in the more California Touchy Palaces. Native American Casino. With hotel resort. That place has closed down the UC has access to all of it so the AFC poly struck. A deal in Touchy Palace is probably like Q. I don't know if they can replenish in replace. You know what what they make from gambling. I really don't know but if you've see said hey look we you know we're paying your rent And we want it all. There's five million making numbers up and Dr Powells things will hell. We don't even know when we were GONNA turn back on sure. You got yourself a deal. I guess then they might be okay with it. They love him remain. The hosted a whole series called Tachi Palace fighting championship or something like that. Plus before that taught policies to host the original. Wc which was eventually bought by the UFC and folded into Sufa. And that's four guys like your riot favor dominant crews Nicosia's and give Melendez and the list goes on and on Carlos condit those guys came over from. Wc They had twenty four twenty six shows there at one point so they love it. The only problem is it doesn't matter that they love it and their fans in that Area I love it because no one can go but still it was just. I think I think it was easier to price it down with the head of the tribe. I guess and say hey listen you didn't have to start with square one and go you've ever heard of emmy you know what I mean it was. It was familiar. Mma hardcore are familiar with that location. Yeah so they're there for the next two months goes and it's in California so when you kept hearing the ESPN people say the going forward. It's going to be on the West Coast. I think I may have said something along the lines. I'm here in the apex while I was wrong. Touchy ballots well. I'm still not a man me. I don't WANNA be so negative. But who knows maybe they'll get this. I show off but you know there's always the possibility that the commission reacts negatively towards all this right they can get pressure to and that's where they may be able to throw out all right. Anybody involved any judges and referees res We just don't do this out here. In California you could receive a fine a suspension. Who knows if that puts pressure in those regards? And as we've seen in the past commissions usually follow suit so something like that that would happen in California might carry over to Nevada New York. You never know so I think the first show. I'm confident it's going to go off. I don't think it's going to look the same way it looks today. I feel like maybe another fight will drop off but maybe another one will be added but I don't know about you know for the next month. The next two months to see him show after show. I think we still need to cross that hurdle. Yeah the whole you said. You took a peek at some of the Action Wrestlemainia. I'm just little clips here and there. Yeah did you think much of it? Was it worse than tough. Like with. Just no one there or there was nobody there or when we can't say original Dino I continue series original Dino I continuing series in the original. Jim had some pop to it. Remember we like. Where's the security man he's GonNa go at? It seemed like there was nobody there. Nobody at all so I mean So when we all sit around and say I WANNA be I WANNA Tony and I'll even take it in my backyard. We're kind of being dumb because no we want it with fans. We wanted an arena. You know what the weirdest part about the whole thing was? There were a lot of times. Where guest wrestlers just used to doing things that revolve around pointing at the crowd or getting them to say something. They were still kind of do it. It was just. It was nobody in the crowd. I don't know why you're doing it. But McMahon mess up. Should he have said Wrestlemainia will now be an October me? Personally I would have done that. These two has wrestlemainia is just so unique First thing when they when they ever show like Pontiac Silverdome. What's the first thing they ever show with Andrea? Before they even get to the slam they show. How big and how many people were there? That's part of the whole thing. Even if you go back to Russell media nine which we went to it was smaller. It was great throws in Las Vegas but it was one of those outdoor stadiums that they would build and there just wasn't that many people there and even that kind of a little weird because it was a wrestlemainia but I think that's one of the big things about them is just the amount of crowds. And how are they doing when stadiums and all that I think that's part of the allure of Wrestlemainia because we've been wrestlemainia yeah food? We were one where Yokozuna came came out and I think he wanted then. Hulk slammed him and then he won the Wrestlemania nine. I remember the event I just could. I forgot Wrestlemainia Wrestlemainia. So now I think somebody asked him the other day. You WanNa go to one one day. We forgot technically we went to a wrestlemania guarantee on Wrestlemainia into rumbles. But we've ever been to a slump summer slam or a adversaries. The is that what we saw lex Luger and his wife or somebody arguing and it looked really intense like mystic abuse might be taking place. Ooh Yeah that that one Damian Demento and Tito Santana were playing blackjack together. They had just fought the a lot of weird things. That that weekend Damian DM. If you would've told me Georgia got a bag right here. It's got a million dollars. You can have it if he told me who Tito Santana's playing blackjack with and I'll give you a million guesses. I would've went deal. I would've shook your hand. Well maybe I would have elbowed you and I would have said I hulk Hogan Greg Valentine and then I would have pulled up. Probably Week Pedia. Anyone who's ever wrestled I. I probably would've skipped by that name. Just because I know I have a million to us and I don't WanNa use it and I swear to God. I probably would've said stuff like Floyd Mayweather Yeah you're the one that Shack O.`Neil I'd even I'd probably I. I wouldn't waste something on. Who David Demento was his name. Damian demento spotted them too because he's got the whole shape. I don't even remember the name. I know him a break hammer. Valentine headed rivalry but Damien the mental. Right we went off the rails there. But I've been wrestlemainia folks. I can knock that off my list. Yes yeah Wrestlemainia back to that. You said it just didn't look right and I don't know how this is going to look. I guess I'm happy that the fighters getting paid you know. You saw the relief on Francis. His face he wants fight. He's GonNa get paid and look folks right about now is when this is something that's going here out of every media member. I think unless the kind of Lyon to you. This is the part where we go from criticizing the fact that maybe they're coming back too soon to saying well we've already stated our opinion. We're not stopping it. It's happening so now react you know. Like what are our thoughts? Do we think's going to win or the right decisions made as far as the car goes so back to that you know. Well Versus Ferguson. Does a few things it. It shouldn't be for the interim title but it is But by being for the interim title the winner automatically get shot Habib. So what that's done is the McGregor puzzle. What happens the McGregor's next question? He can only hope that the winner. This fight has a little nagging injury that doesn't allow the face be similar to what happened with Kobe. Covington when he beat already could go against Woodley. So were there the fight till they took a co Covington's belt away and that was that but if one of these guys comes out healthy day get Nurmi. So that was the winner here was gauging except gauging the fight. A piece that has lost in ten years off of Ten Days Notice. Maybe a little bit more than that. I think that he'll be was pretty much out as of about a week ago. Or maybe even more And and all he manages both guys so I'll probably already started saying. Hey Get out there and run and do what you need to do So yeah the. There's a big trickle effect on that decision so of McGregor's would we do McGregor. You know you can always point the Nicosia's ads part three. Maybe he should knock on. Floyd's door and say you WANNA box again. You know. I don't know a lot of stuff happened man on Monday without announcement. I mean I think on the inside. I think we'd all be fools of we weren't thinking the UFC is also thinking. Should something happen to Tony or Justin which they both fight like animals. I mean I don't remember that on ending round one. I don't remember any fights where at the end of the night. They look relatively normal. They're usually pretty banged up so if something like that happens. Yeah that's where you come in and you go. We'd love to make this fight. We just can't because you know I mean he'll he has been pretty clear about When he'll be ready possibly late August early September around their price sounds about right so it's not like we don't know what's going on with the guy which is why. I think it's strange tile but whatever I think it just confuses people So maybe that's where they throw in Connor and That that's where it just becomes pro wrestling. I hope it doesn't happen that way. But it's definitely a possibility with how big Habib Connor to can be is that when you rate for arenas the before the pandemic to be over you need people sitting side by side next to each other like the first one. I think you hope. So yeah you know. Conroe pilot to take offense before then. Well it depends. You know because that's going to be a little bit of a pissing match too because Bieb is just been very adamant about. I don't want to give that guy he doesn't deserve a rematch. So who knows how much power he actually has what will probably find that out right with the UFC. And I think it'll be a pissing match between both of them. There's another thing to think about. If just engage in that fight he fights Khabib and those are two all e clients. I'm sure he's probably not too fired up about that. He's added do that before. Who MORLA MARIAH'S BUT I mean the guy that has all all the chips and knows everything that's going to happen because he's dealing with both camps both sides of it. Yeah all right. Well we got to see how all this plays out. So did I give the car out already never should have this is the complete card for UC to forty nine. You got just engaged versus Tony. Ferguson they're GONNA go five around folks five rounds folks because it's four the UFC interim lightweight championship so dumb. That doesn't need to happen. Jessica drage versus fill in the blank is the combing event. I don't think it'll be the combing. If they can't get a big name in there I can only think of maybe Tatyana Suarez on. You know my feeling better. I'm right up the street then. I guess it could be the coming event but I don't know what's going to happen there. I think what they'll do is pull your riot hall and Rinaldo Susan. I think they really want to keep Rosenstock and then gone on big ESPN. Yeah I was thrilled about it. Yeah he really wants it because he knows. Espn goes throughout the world. You know what I mean. That's a big hit though isn't it? I mean and they're such big names and you know I've heard that could still be on. Espn Versus the pay per view. But I see almost half and half where it's still a few minutes on ESPN. I've been able to get clarity. I hope I hope it is on. Espn because asking people for a lot of money. Right now are they're gonNA do it. There's a lot of people that are GonNa do it but it's just a rough time for everyone. Jorgen decastro Greg Hardy Greg Hardy Asthma. Remember the inhaler Nico WHY DO I say that folks? Because those that are asthmatic should really be careful with covert nineteen we should all be careful with covert nineteen but anybody in your family. Who has asthma really really look for them Vicinity Luke versus Nico Price Calvin cater versus Jeremy Stevens Francis in Ghana Versus Josh. Rosen struck your hall versus Ronaldo Souza Less Chalker Alexander Hernandez versus Omar Morales. Ray Borg versus Marlin Vera. Michael Johnson versus Comma Worthy S- Ajar eubanks versus Sarah Morass Sam Albie Versus Ryan Span. So there's twelve fights if they fill in for rose and if not we're down to eleven and the other cards are already getting announcements made soil throughout the week we were hearing about. What's happening at the next card? Which is you've see on. Espn plus thirty one. Again at Tachi Palace. It was supposed to take place in Lincoln Nebraska that had Anthony Smith versus Gloucestershire. Ov- in Saint Preuss into Cavallo. You know few other names so by the way here by Anthony Smith the dumbest burglar of all time. Yeah that that guy didn't come in to to blur. Burglarize was just on drug high on something goofing off right and the rumors. Apparently he had some sort of camp or something because he lasted about five minutes right with Anthony Smith he gave molly handle. Yeah he sure did I think that sounds like PCP to me. Like he said he he was only one hundred. Seventy pounds. Smith guys is probably walks around at two thirty five to forty and he's a all of six four and he said that was the toughest fight he's ever had. He's putting it on the I was still coming at them. So that to me tells me Some of that superhuman strength that that one gets from P. that's not a pothead. That's not a drunk that Anthony smoothies the work of submission game right. I think the I think that's the best thing it's just I don't have your own. Pcp you can put someone to sleep. So maybe that's just around us. That Black Belt Anthony Smith is so yeah. So there's been some other fight bookings along the way and when you see them if they're not on. Ufc Two forty nine. Have you see you know? Sometimes people don't click onto the story they get lazy if you see You'll see tonight thirty one. It's all happening at Tonci Palace and there if it was going to go down the week after the Brooklyn show while it's still gonNA go down. They're not changing that. It's just one week later at Touchy Palace with no crowds and like we were stating earlier. Marvin Victorian Karl Robertson was another one like we were standing earlier. Here's where things can change. Today's Thursday the ninth again. Happy Birthday mom on the eighteenth which is nine days away. A Lot can change. Not Just Kinda fighter like rose. Pull out for whatever reason it is. We don't know officially the California State Athletic Commissions in a in a pickle here. They cannot oversee the tournament because they're respecting the wishes or the wishes but the The State of California has basically told everyone. Stay at home. And there's unless you're an essential business. You're not functioning anyway. Wear in the state of California that's why the Ucla tribal land because ninety. Seven percent of the United States is under that under those orders to work around. Yeah and so. They're in the State of California technically. But they're on tribal lands so the tribe governs itself. There will be no state. Athletic Commission however. Abc which kind of overseas boxing Bah Combat Sports. And you know they're the ones that kind of make come up with the official rules for How the sport you know needs to function they have stated that could be sanctions against those that take place In in on this card it in other words these aren't going to be sanctioned bounces. What they're saying and that can extend over to the Calm the commissioner judges and refs So what are they GONNA do? You know timekeepers all those types of people that work with the commission right could could there be so much pressure that maybe no no no the higher ranked rafts or the higher looked upon wrestler. Judges are they're not gonNA they're not gonNA be there and they're not gonNA work. I don't know man Not to mention. Still gotTa Make Weight under these weird circumstances Supposedly they still got to deal with you. Saadah Right You. Sorta said they're still gonNA try their hardest to maintain some sort of presence. So you still have to deal with that. I mean just. I honestly don't think this is going to look the same way a will and a few days but I think they'll find replacements. I'm trying to think you saw you saw How can they affect well? They put out a tweet or some sort of statement the other day. That said we're still gonNA. They're artists within our means. So the way that the. I'm trying to think the way that affects it is I if I'm used to be able to go into your house. Technically right to. Let's just say you're a clean. You're getting fighter. But if I'm Sada and I knock or I call and I'm thirty minutes away. Are you home? You could go. Listen Man I'm clean or whatever but you really are but no one goes into my house. I have kids or quarantine. I never thought that one throat is California's at three people. Now Yeah I mean. A lot of the swabbing in the mouth th they. A lot of things changed in the last few months with side of that. I I gotta catch up on it. Get tricky I think. A lot of swabbing in the mouth and I guess the fighter could could leave the house and go to you Who knows but you saw. It did make an announcement I think. All the athletes are aware they. They haven't stopped testing Rogan and cormier sound like they're in if they have to be. They got their conditions. I'm driving to the event. I'm driving home although I haven't heard that from Rogan Rogan. I said I'm not doing it then. Dana White said Rogan. Ob they're kind of make sense touchy pals is right between Rogan in Cormier Rogan's in La Cormie as kind of like in San Jose. And but if they both drive two hours north and south not respectively. Joe Rogan goes north and south. They can be there. I'm telling you man every day we're finding out more and more but as of right now the events going forward and that's that some other news we'll go with The passing of BELA TOR fighter. Alabel tour fighter that was shot dead in his Akron. Home he likes. He only fought once for bell tour. It was in two thousand nineteen. His name is Isaiah Chapman but he was shot dead outside his Akron. Home goes and apparently they still haven't found the suspect Matt's chilling. You know what I mean. I know he only had the one fight and Bell Tower and Apparently he had some other fights aside from that. But that's just that's a scary situation. Yeah I mean I as of right now I think the guy still on the loose. Whoever did that and Just so sad knew somebody with the bright future like that multiple times outside of his home. I wonder I wonder what happened here if this was random. It's pretty chilling in the sense. That with everything that's going on right now. Crime has gone down a bit and you tend to forget about these stories that have that have been happening shootings and stuff like that. Our minds are so preoccupied with other things right now that when you hear that you just kind of get that chill that reminder like I am this stuff still happens from time to time. Yeah all right. Listen we are going to be back on Monday. And there's GonNa be a few things we'll talk about a probably more officially than what I'm about to give you right now. Uc to fifty was going to be headlined by Henry Suharto Versus Josie Aldo officially from. What we know that's still on but I'd be lying to you by told you on Monday. That will still be the case. There's a report out there that states that Aldo may be out and dominick Cruz might be in but we haven't been able to get confirmation so again with our luck by noon today when we're having lunch it'll be official but just look out for that story folks that might happen. Frankie Edgar tried to try to step in as well and I know a lot of Frankie again. He just had a title. You know he has. He's got he's had his fill of title shots but he's been johnny on the spot him in your favor. Look they just the win fights to do it or they're willing to do it on late notice or whatever but what he hasn't had is a ban on weight title title shot. That's the difference. He's had the lightweight. Of course he deserved the ones that he earned and once he defended and all that he had the featherweight. Because I think we also Frankie Edgar. Don't you remember what he did? Is Lightweight so he had a few those passes. No I shouldn't say passes but here in a few the shots but this one's different goes he's never fought as a bantamweight. How do you feel at with what's going on in the world right now? I think all the rules are just sort of put aside especially when it comes to Frankie Edgar for some reason so if something like that were to go down I mean. I think they're just trying to make fights really and some people are stepping up. Arnon said I don't want to take a fight without having a proper camp Yarn in Russia right now it'll be stuck in Russia. We have to find out where his deal is. So there's so many different circumstances that are surrounding this that I would not be shocked if something like that went down. Yeah I mean plus like you gave a guy coming off a loss a shot. You know that doesn't make sense to begin with rue so really at that point. It's like I don't see why why that would bother them. At this point you know On a funny note will with Conor McGregor a tweet that he put out he's not saying he's the baddest man in the world or look at me. I'm a champion. He just put something else. Out and said Connor's left-hand Anderson's front kick Rhonda's arm Bar Hen does bomb CRA COPS high-kick John side kick to the knees over and over again and actually the only thing at this stage with a question mark Man That that that right there is funny within the tweet. Then he continues Habib's Little Mermaid leg wrap thing he does. What a sport. Who's the greatest? You already know. Well I guess he does imply. He's the greatest he should have said. Who has the greatest weapon then? I think he can give votes. Connors left. Hand is pretty amazing pretty brutal yeah. Yeah Anderson's front kick. I think it was just the overall kicking game but his hands were pretty lethal either. Had the one beautiful front kick against Vitor Belfort then. Ron His arm bar. She won enough ice from a Mombarg. Oh that's a weapon. Yeah well he didn't say no. I was ascending Anderson The whole Lebron thing started with a head kick great. Yeah I think he should Anderson's kicking game or someone does something that allow him to brag about of the Kicks Hen does h-bomb. Yeah of course that one worked many times CRA COPS high kick. I think it was the right. One will send you the hospital and the left one will send you to the morgue. And then but the the little jabbing. John was so unnecessary. I I always felt like John was kind of a fan of connor in a way. Is John Side kick to the knees over and over again and actually the only thing at this. So what he's saying is he never really had power does has he had power lately and you know he's barely winning fights and he's throwing kicks but he's not knocking fools but he's got this little kick to the thing you know. Those linear kicks or the kicks. That was funny. So that's Conor McGregor at the notorious. May If you're not the only person on the planet doesn't follow him at this point and folks think that's it for today man. I think we covered it all right now. The CARD THE CHANGES. You know what might be coming forward. You know with Brazil and that Lincoln Nebraska car. That's GonNa take place a Touchy Palace. So keep locked on EMI junkies. All I can tell you on Emi Junkie goes and I you know we're we're doing our part in the editorial side told you about an interview with Francis and Garner that we had we had one with rich Franklin and Daniel Cormie. 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SummerSlam 2019 Preview

Busted Open

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SummerSlam 2019 Preview

"If you don't know sirius x._m. Than listen up commercial free music plus sports comedy talk and news they have it all and right now. You can get your first three months of sirius x._m. Outside the car for just us one dollar go to siriusxm dot com slash busted to offer details and to subscribe offer available to new series x._m. Streaming subscribers siriusxm no car required. This is the busted open podcast. You can listen to the full show weekdays from nine a._m. To two p._m. Eastern on sirius x._m. Dan nation channel one fifty six welcome to the busted open podcast. This is david greco mac camping. I rake down everything. That's gonna take place on sunday for the second biggest show for the w._w._e. Summer slam the big party of the summer. What match the main event what match is going to steal the show and what matches are. We going to be talking about on our show on monday top to bottom. What are you looking forward forward to on sunday plus. We get into n._f._c. takeover. That's taking place on saturday and his annex t going to steal the weekend when it comes to to the w._w._e. Also mark henry and i will be alive at the rec room in toronto from three pm to five pm eastern time just a stone's throw away from where somer slammed is taking place and if he can't be in toronto you can always listen to us right here on sirius x._m. Fight nation. That's all right now. The busted open podcast now if i'm not mistaken. This is the first time you and i have ever done a show together. Yeah i think i've done a couple of colin spots spots and maybe one spot studio before summer slam. We could a couple of years ago but this is the first time we'll be together for the entire show. Will we make it. What's the over under we get through. The three hours is two and a half hours and then things just fall apart well. I'm a professional man i can't i can't i can't speak for you know. I think i think i think we'll be okay. Okay well. Actually i know we're gonna be okay. I'm actually looking forward to the show today now. When i first heard that you were filling in and my wife got me to come down off the roof and a house before a jumped <hes>. I said you know what i'm going to give this a chad ads and i do respect. You and i listened to you when i'm not here and i'm looking forward to doing the three hours i respect you. Booker man could be here for the next three hours and it's because we have summer slam weekend. There's excitement people are in toronto already. They're getting ready to head there. I know mark cannery is hitchhiking. That's why it could be with us today on his way up to toronto from texas so you guys on sunday. We'll be fired up. It's going to be a good week and we takeover coming up. People are getting ready for the g. one finals over the weekend <hes> who knows what will happen but it seems like there's some buzz but i just wonder dave dave. Is there buzz over the weekend because it doesn't feel like there's a buzz about anyone big match on summer. Slam does kind of feel like to me matt and tell me if i'm wrong long. It's almost like it's a wrestlemania weekend in the fact that sometimes you're more excited about the things that are going on outside of wrestlemainia than actually really wrestlemainia in a lotta ways and this this. I'm sure this will change as we get closer to sunday but i'm i'm more excited about some of the other things that are happening then. What's it's exactly going to happen on sunday night. I have faith that the show is going to be pretty good but like i said and i know we're kind of throwing this out there. We don't really know what the main event truly. Should we have an idea of what it could be but i think there's a couple of options on the table. The card has various kinds of builds builds more hot than others for obviously different reasons. Some stuff's going to be undercard stuff but like you said there. I think that wrestlemainia feel where okay this is. The second biggest biggest show of the year. I think to the company some of us might terrell rumble but i think the company treats this as the second biggest week of their year and they want to say that the event is what sells the people the places sold out. I think a canadian crowd is always a rabid fun crowd for the second biggest event a year. I think they'll be on. I think takeover will get us off to a hot start. On saturday i know superstars and the company's been in town all week a lot of promotion going on obviously have local talent like trish stratus stratus. You have a canadian like natalia like kevin owens on the car to the some extra buzz with that but i feel like it's the buzz of the event more so than the actual actual matches well. Let's talk about the buzz because you mentioned buzz. Was there a map. Let me ask you. What is there a a lot of buzz about in general when it comes to a pro wrestling. I don't think the w._w._e. Is that buzz worthy term right now. This is not a knock on the w._w._e. But so much has been going on with the w you're kind of like the cool kids and i think there's a lot of buzz when it comes to that company what's happening at the end of the month with what they're doing right then. I think we kind of overlooked summer summer slam in a way well. You know what here's what i think a._w._s. Has gone for their favorite. They don't have anything going to the end of the month. They don't have weekly television and i wonder if that's gonna change range. Dave i still think and i know bullies talk about this that they're in their honeymoon stage and everything's going well and people are excited. They've given reason for people to be excited. Yes they've had some some missteps along the way they've done a lot of good things. But what do we get from them. We get being the elite for twelve minutes every week. We get the road to shows which are ten minutes every week and that's tip. They're giving us twenty to twenty five. Maybe thirty minutes of content a week we're w._b._z. Put out three on monday two on tuesday. There's a lot more to break down to to analyze to criticize you could say that's too much wrestling we throw in our next tean and then obviously you've gotta pay per view this weekend so a ws in a spot where they can kinda sticking can move right. They can kind of put their stuff out there all right. We'll be back in the week. We got this at the end of the month. It's gonna be a much different story. Come october and i hope that buzzes is there are feel like the buster w._w._e. Dave is what's going on behind the scenes more than anything right now and you just mentioned october now whether it's eighty w._w._w. Or now even the n._w._f. N._w._f. That's thrown their hat into the fall when it comes to the wrestling landscape. I think that kinda like in your terms because you do fantasy sports like the n._f._l. Season we all know starts since september right. It kind of feels like the pro. Wrestling season is now going to start in october because of all the new t._v. Shows and the changes even with the w._w._e. We with them move on the fox some reports about one that we're gonna get into later. I think that feels like it's going to be the start of the season. Come october. A season premiere and i know dobie is used that in the past push a raw okay. It's the season premiere of raw. Maybe they loaded up a big match but i'm with you. I think that summertime can be somewhat of downtime and this is kind of part. One into the start of the season survived summer. Slam leads you now into the fall. Survivor series starts to plant some seeds. Maybe wrestlemainia wrestlemainia season but now they w coming up you know. Is there a move with an annex t going on. Is that a possibility. You got new japan. Coming over to america looks like they're going to have three sold out shows. There's a lot of good things buzz worthy. If you're a wrestling fan out there i say that all the time let the wrestling companies fight over you. You don't fight over the wrestling companies but i do you think that when a w is in full force you know they're going to get criticized more and we're going to be have more things to break down with them and they're going to have to figure out their way not has been doing this forever. They've been running an episodic television show since nineteen ninety-three and know what comes with that and they've obviously blown that out too much more than than just one hour a week whereas a._w._s. got two hours a week and are they gonna advertise that. What's their youtube. Gonna look like they'll be a lot more for us to sink our teeth into when we we get to october but that that season. I think you're right is really what's going to get the buzz going and all of a sudden we're going to be in it and there's gonna be dave no days off offer professional wrestling yeah i mean we already know there's no offseason but like i said yesterday you know we started this show one hour one day a week and my boss steve cohen wonder how we're gonna fill that one hour an hour doing five days three hours and almost feels like that's not enough because the landscape has changed so much over the last decade especially with these new shows and you just mentioned the two and not even think about it until you mentioned it you know we're near the end of the g one climax twenty-nine tournament. That's going on then that's been exciting. That's been on access tv every saturday and that's something else to talk about and to get into an. It's been a buzz during this season as as well. That's kind of deterred you a little bit from what's going on with the w._w._e. It's tough you know. It's tough to keep up on that. I understand you watch on access on fridays. You're watching on new japan world olden look. There's been times in the past. I've gotten up at four o'clock in the morning and i'm why live and i'm gonna try and do that for the finals but you try to catch up you try to avoid the spoilers and to new japan's credit. They've improved their social. Media tenfold in the last six months and their global account makes a point to not put spoilers up you still gotta duck and dive your way through twitter twitter to to avoid them but they're booking right now one of their best jiwan tournaments whether it's from an entering standpoint i think you always expect them to have probably the best bell to bell action on the most consistent basis but from a story standpoint ever had a question about new japan oh it's too many big bumps and it's too much flippant lipin stuff and right now from a story standpoint the way this tournament has been booked has taken so many twists and turns and it's been tough to figure out who's gonna win. The best thing about pro wrestling dave is when it's unpredictable in a good way. That's what this tournament has been. There's been multiple leaders. Is okada going to win as the champion for the first time is jon moxley gonna finish off a hot run. That's kind of come into a cold streak. Does jay white finds way back in is it final finally naito's crowning achievement stephen it can go a lot of ways and oh by the way the one favourite maybe more than anybody can still win the whole thing if he can get by okada the first so they have a lot of different ways. They can go so if you haven't checked out tournament. It's a bear. It's a it's a it's a responsibility david. You think it's fair to call something like that. With so many matches there are every day. Yeah i think so too. I it's it's something that listen. I know it's difficult for us like you said. If you wanna watch it live. You're gonna have to get up pretty pretty early in the morning but i think access t._v. Is done a tremendous job of recap enduring the weekend and showing some of the better matches and like on saturday. You know it's it's taking place that morning the quick turnaround for saturday night. If you remember sometimes you had to wait three four weeks to be able to access. They're doing a tremendous indus job turning that around. I think that's a good job by new japan and i think you know having their actual commentary team of kevin kelly and rocky romero for the most part art chris charlton on the shows and not a knock on j._r. at all. It's just for the betterment of the show for the product especially now where you don't want to have too many spoilers others to avoid and if it's only a couple of days to turn it around that's great you know they've been putting the big shows on as quickly as possible whether it be this whether it be wrestle kingdom. I think that's better for the product product. There is so much of it out there. You'd like to get as much as you can and i'll say this not. Every match is great. There's a lotta guys that have shown up. I've taken a big step forward. In this tournament. I think lance archer breakout all star by the way if you're an independent wrestling promoter out there and you don't have this guy on your show after the run that he has had you're missing out on a bona fide star car <hes> he should be on tv somewhere all the time always a big fan of them to his credit. He reinvented himself in this tournament and he has matched watched what he's needed to do some of the best wrestlers in the world if you're i know we had him on the show here recently. This is a guy that should be working everywhere in america every every single weekend. He should be on someone's television. If new japan will allow it because it's a bona fide superstar who's working his ass off and is proving himself in the most difficult difficult tournament and tour in the world breakout performance and he's in his forties. That's telling you something it's never too late and i think he's proven adt and then look at this weekend ring avante tonight and exte- tomorrow night and of course summer slam on sunday and we talked about not a lot of buzz not a lot of juice the summer slam but on paper if you look matched to match it should be damned good card come sunday likely you're hearing god's busted open live weekdays from nine a._m. To twelve p._m. Eastern on sirius x._m. Fire nation channel one fifty six or on demand the sirius x._m. App you heard from seth rollins not a good night for seth rollins on monday. They're doing any favours dave. I don't put this on seth. They've tried to make seth super white meat baby face good guy i don't i don't you know when he was going around with the chair. You're and defending himself and i'm gonna take people out. That's what he should be. I'm not saying he should be a complete vigilante and not have friends because they've shown them have friends but he's gone in this other direction where just because he's the face of the company. I don't think he has to be like ahmed with you. Guys were your behind me like they could be behind you. You don't have to talk about it all the time. It's just knocking us over the head with it and then i think you look like an idiot this week on raw. You got the crap kicked out of them. I get it ah you want them to have sympathy but then he got in their six days before he's trying to get his title back against a one hundred percent brock listener and it got whooped again yeah so now what do you do on sunday because if brock loses to what forty percent seth rollins that makes rock look like crap unless it all of a sudden becomes yeah no match and if brock beat seth. I feel like it should happen in ninety seconds. Would it be better dave for seth to have sold a beatdown beatdown for multiple weeks and then we don't know what level he would be coming back at summer sleep. I just think you should not have him on t._v. At all this yes sell to beat down like you got beat down. He actually got some sympathy from the crowd. I thought you were in a good place which surrounds you just repeated what you did the week before and then sticking a microphone in his hand while he's laying flat on his back and do him any favors and as you heard from that clip that gabby played he's getting what chance is that what you really want from a guy. That's going up against your universal champion six days before the show and here's the question what probably should be your main event on sunday it should be. It's your universal championship. That's the big title to the w._w._e. I to me this does not have main event written on it at all and it should and now i'm wondering like what do you do. Because what kind of match are they going to have. Are they going to have is the the idea dave to have the match that brock listener had with daniel bryan at survivor series where he beat the living hell at daniel bryant but it was only in that match wjr was encapsulated in that match and then daniel bryan had the big comeback. Can you even sell that to the people to have that kind of a match with how how badly he has been destroyed over the last two weeks. I don't think you can i get it. He's ridiculous shape crossville jesus all that stuff he's resilient. You're trying to build that up but not when the beep downs have been as bad as they are coming from the guy that you promote correctly as like the scariest guy out there as the beast it doesn't feel believable to me for seth rollins to be broccoli sunday and here's where he's kind of painted himself into a corner owner when you look at seth rollins on monday he guaranteed victory like and bully said this. You can have your baby phase. He's out there with a microphone his hand guaranteeing victory and then then replaying it later in the show and then replaying that guarantee on smackdown he guarantees victory. There is no way on god's green earth that he can come out victor in this match. Is he gonna flash pin. That's all i can think of like he steals sales three seconds. Somehow something a backslide a small package like that's all. I can think of but you kind of did that. At wrestlemainia thirty five. He woke nope. No at five he hit his finishers multiple time at thirty five quake was it took brock by surprise. I don't know if you can go down that route and then so then you're gonna have rock loose seth twice right. Oh no i think they're in a tough spot. Yeah and seth rollins loses this match on sunday which i think he i should and i think he will. You gonna have to revamp this character. Now it can on monday. You can have the same seth rollins that we've seen over the last couple of months. He's gotta lose his mind light yeah. He has to lose it. He has the maybe go somewhere darker. You know dea. Send them away. D. assay like i gotta go away and do you show oh you know what is training becomes what he's gotta. Do i would show him watching old matches the shield i would show him watching him in the authority to have to find some of that by the way there's some nice plugs for the network. Oh people go back and watch go find yourself. What am i show him watching himself on the the indie scene that that he almost forgot where he came from when he was talking about. We'll osprey a couple of months ago. Show him going to find himself. Do i have to go somewhere. I haven't been in a while to beat this guy and that's the other thing too. He's kind of been the voice of the w._w._e. On social media the last few months as well like you mentioned that back and forth we'll ospreys. He's been doing interviews saying that you know nothing is competition. This is a great place. He's showing a different side to his personality that the fans have never seen before for their kind of presented him as like here's the guy this is the next face of the show but man the fans aren't treating him this way and when you hear what chance when he's making that big baby face promo monday night raw they better make the right decision. Come sunday yeah i i. I don't know what that right decision is. I i would have brought beat them. I'd have brock beat them quickly and then i would send them away and let them go find themselves. I think that's the best way to do it. I think it's been perfect storm. Dave i think the booking has not been great for him. I don't think they've made them look very very good. They don't he doesn't come across as sympathetic underdog baby-faced if that's going for i think some of the stuff that he has said hasn't been the best and by the way he is admitted to such. I'm not at this is not a knock on rollins. He said you know what i i regret what i said and i apologize and they're cool when will sultan t shirts and all that that's fine but i think all of it coming together. It's been the perfect vic storm and it's hurt him because there is a presence that they promote on social media. They've gotten away from the becky stuff which is kind of weird that they got away from it as he was getting the crap kicked out of them. She's barely shown any emotion select. What is it are they together and we're acknowledging that on tv. Okay okay fine. You've you've established that already if you're establishing that they're together in real life and in the show and that's cannon now now. She doesn't care about him because that's what it comes off as it's it's. You know that there's certain people matt and i'm sure even our busted open. Nation has come across people like this that don't know how to read a room. They walk into the room and you kinda. Just feel the vibe from a crowd of people in a room the w._w._e. When it comes to seth rollins they don't know how how to read the room but they had it. They share they had it yeah. I didn't have a problem with brock leser winning the money in the bank doc because it was the big bad monster in the closet that could come at any time and i think that was a nice thing to do for a guy who's not on t._v. T._v. that often and you could have ignored it and not brought it up and one of cash and then within a month a month and a half yeah quick there was that level of just uncertainty for kofi for seth if there was a title change and i like that and you could have had seth that makes him stronger. Gotta worry about not only the opponent i have in the ring i gotta worry about brock leser at all times and they built that and they literally cashed in on it a too quickly. There was a way to drag that out where they could have here and there had heyman show up appear here whatever ever always keeping that might not hitting you over the head not payment coming out every single week. He could show up this weekend. He could show up tomorrow. He could show up in saudi arabia. He can show up at this. You just hinted at here and there and then maybe wanna tomas that everybody's mind then you do it but they he just cash that chip in so quickly and i think it cut the legs out from seth rollins if you don't know sirius x._m. Then listen up commercial free music plus sports comedy talk and news they habit all a lot of people think you need a car to enjoy sirius x._m. But you don't you can listen outside the car right now. You can get your first three months of sirius x._m. Outside the car for just one dollar just go to sirius sirius x._m. Dot com slash busted to offer details and to subscribe you can listen on your phone at home and online that sirius x._m. Dot com slash plus did offer available to new siriusxm sirius x._m. Streaming subscribers siriusxm no car required. I thought they've done a really good job matt how they've built up an italian over the last few weeks to really look at her as a contender. Could the throne becky lynn johnson. It's something that you'll see happen when they kinda gotta. Do it quickly declined. I wish it happened more over time. I always thought new japan did a good job. If you watch those undercard tag matches if someone's getting a lot of pitfalls there's a reason for that you know oh well actually they were winning for a while. They tried to heat up short period of time to their credit. I think they've done so. I like the edge with what they did on smackdown with what they did is as you heard there at the sharp shooter in what's tough about this. Here's why don't make this the main event if it was natty dave as the home home country hero right we know canada gets behind their wrestlers then get behind their sports teams. The raptors had the whole country behind him. This is what they do. If it was natty against a he'll i would say we might have if this was like natty. Let's say charlotte and charlotte one hundred percent to heal and natty built her up and win in her hometown. I might say that works but what i'm wondering similar to balian ember is becky just so big right now and over that it's going to be a split crowd that maybe isn't the most boisterous cloud crowd because they like becky so much and because natty hasn't really dave i hate to say she hasn't been a big deal for a long time. She's been a second banana row to rhonda. She's been in the background when becky's gotten hot in charlotte and and you know she's kind of been an afterthought at times with the four horse women with with with bailey and sasha so they've done a good job heating or up. I just don't know if the crowds going to be at that fever pitch that you'd like them to be at for a main event for her hometown because of that and because they've i think there's still going to be a lot of people in canada that are canadian that love becky lidge yeah and and i think that this crowds going to be split on sunday. I think you're right listen. We've seen it before canada. Whether it's toronto montreal they get behind and their wrestlers but becky lynch is the hottest wrestler in the company right now right so i i would expect that this is going to be split in toronto though i i do believe and i know you feel differently. I do believe that this should be the main event. Bikila becky lynch is the hottest wrestler going right. Now you have natalia from candid ended a big story there. There is a story between these two and it does kind of back handley involve ronda rousey. That's the reason becky is so upset in italia so i think for those reasons it should be the main event. Then ron has got to appear. If rhonda is that much part of this story and you wanna make it the main event event then if she appears in the main event that i think will it will add to that idea because otherwise and i like the idea of being surprised much thing. You should promote that but but i think if it's truly the main event than something big to happen because how are they going off the air dave then what's the deal if no rhonda and that's the main event is natty beating becky lynch in the main event a summer slam or vice versa because of becky wins in toronto. I think she gets a good reaction but not the massive reaction. You want going off the air and like i said i i don't think nazis at the level that they would need to be at to also be like oh my goodness. She wanted her home country. This crowds going nuts that would be people pissed off in that audience that becky lost so unless rhonda's making an appearance and there's a buzz about that and natty wins for that reason we come out of the show going ronda rousey jus- this cost becky lynch the raw women's championship. What's going to happen next. See tomorrow night here in toronto on monday night raw. That's how you go off. The show with the main event level buzz but if ron is not involved. I don't see it ending the show well. I'm going to set you up here before we get back to. The phone calls on a falls count anywhere. Friday matt is that you mentioned it and we talked about it. Brock and steph doesn't feel like a main event <hes> <hes> you mentioned becky tally. I think it should be the main event. You gave a couple of good reasons why you don't think it should be bailey ember moon. Obviously that's not going to be the main event kofi kingston randy or and could be but you've byu believe randy. Your is gonna come out out on top. If that's the case probably not the best way to end summer slam so i'll ask you what do you think should be. The main event is goes and shane i. I think it's it's been the hottest bloodiest whatever you wanna call it. It's the most i'm invested in because i know shane can win. I don't want him to win but i know we can win. I think kevin owens right. Now is probably what they would like. Seth rollins to be in terms of getting crowd reaction and organically behind him. He seems very comfortable. I think he's admitted as such seth doesn't feel comfortable. Would you agree with this. It feels like kevin owns is as comfortable as he's ever been at least on the baby fae side in the w._w._e. And i think he's got a good foil and shane and i think everything that's happened with shane winning the best in the world randomly beating ms twice someone someone has got to take shane down. Someone's gotta do it and if you wanna canadian crowd behind someone that they're going to get behind. It's kevin owns so i would have kevin win and then not only do you may be sent away for a while. People would be happy that kevin one everyone likes him and then i would think they've kevin owens wins the main event a summer slam. You have a title contender ready to go. We have ten matches on sunday matt and probably only three of those matches where you can definitively say that the baby faces gonna get cheered by everyone one and one of those matches kevin owens and shane mcmahon yup and the other is probably goldberg and off and trish in charlotte. I'll go goldberg bergenthal fifty three minutes yeah so outside of those three matches. I don't know if you have a definitive baby face and the rest of these matches which is why won't the crowd and the best as possible situation for the moment. I think kofi randy is next because i think they're going to have the best match of the night outside maybe a._j. And ricochet but there could be some outside interference kofi kofi ran. He's gonna stay between those two guys. I don't think today's going to be involved to anywhere that it's going to matter because randy doesn't have any backups that would make a lot of sense but if you want to crowd out completely on one side and you want them in their best possible spot. I think it's kevin owens against shane mcmahon in the main event eight seven in seven three four four four eight nine three seven seven five ninety three. Let's go out the dan and long island dan. What did you think is going to be the best match on the summer slam card. I was actually going to ask you guys. Match will seal the weekend between takeover and summer slam but <hes> to answer your question. I personally think kofi and randy shouldn't be in the summer slam. I just don't think mcmahon and kevin owens shouldn't main event some of the plan because let's say shane mcmahon beats kevin owens the fans will just go home with a bad taste mouth and everyone will be pissed off <hes> but the mass. I think feel the weekend again. I think it'll be obviously adam cole versus gargano and to be false match and if i had to pick a second metric and seal weekend kofi and radio or i just want to hear what you guys think and matt never ever interrupt dave the greco at all ever again in the opening day record guy. I got my t shirt. Say away from the opening you pay that t shirts so dave put more money in your pocket and you can go send him some money for for calling in and make sure you got over you. You don't wanna fight me on this been hosting the show for ten years danza loyal fan. Obviously everybody should have david greco guy or girl t shirt just make sense to great fashion statement <hes> g. q. magazine said it's the t shirt of the summer <hes>. I'm sure you have one one no original there you go. That's that's the problem is they're matt cam t shirts. No no of course not no nobody would buy no. I also create my own shirt. The take off a paul heyman and steal again like you've done many times before which i believe he's called you out for that by the way i i. I've seen the interview yeah. Well you know what until i get hit hit with the lawsuit from paul heyman which is very likely based on us in our he works now. If jerry mcdevitt comes knocking at your door don't say what match do you think is going to be forget about sunday. What's the match on monday that we're going to say stole the week. Here's the thing i don't think we should be calling adam cole and johnny gargano stealing the weekend anymore. This is established. I expect that to be the best matched a lot of pressure on right totally and we don't know what the third wall is which they're gonna go to the third fall man that would be the ultimate swerve right has had a three match third phillix zarro pete ziglar for the icy title wants to open a show but man that would be the ultimate <hes> actually. We're not doing the third now we're not. I don't feel like that's like a stealing right. Because i feel like stealing is surprise right. It's not a main event type of match of annex t. I could see william regal saying and you know what i didn't legitimately didn't think this was going to go three falls. I didn't come up with. I got nothing and we're going to duchess of queensberry that went over so well l. ten years ago fifteen years ago. If i had to pick something that's gonna steal the weekend <hes> i would say it's pete and roderick strong all right so now and and we're going to get into a lot of annex t over the course of the show as well because that's taking place on saturday. Is this going to be another weekend where we say annex st pete out the main roster pay per view. You know what this is a very different inex- teacart. I don't think we're going to say that. I think adam cole and johnny gargano. We'll have the match of the weekend in on dream and don and roderick strong but you have a lot of new faces on the next card in terms of being on on a pay-per-view streep repopulate finally won the titles but in a ladder match against one of the best tag teams in the world in a riley and bobby fish museum getting getting her first big chance. Is she going to be the one that finally topples shane obeys ller. I don't know and in kansas lorraine shirai. I think we know he'll is gonna win that you'll have the plucky lucky underdog candidate. I don't know if it's a show stealing kind of card for an x. t. from top to bottom not saying that it's bad but i don't they it's going to be that ridiculous high natch quality because i don't know if the stories that are being told in these matches require that ridiculous gillis bell to bell four five star match. It's very hard for me matt to bet against an extinct because i've done it before because we've been down this this road before where it's like all right. They've lost a lot of they've lost a lot of wrestlers to the main roster and like you just said there's a lot of new faces and going in. I have my doubts about some the matches and then coming out. I'm like that's the best annex t takeover i've ever. I don't feel like i say that almost all the time which is which is look. That's what you want right that established triple h loves to have that as the standard is we are going to put on the best two and a half hours. Anyone will put on for the next two and a half months. That's the standard standard they have set. That's a tip of the cap to him to the staff to the wrestler there. I love that they have that to fight for like you said it feels like everyone man and i was the best one. That's what these men and women go into every show thinking. I don't think summer slam is a bad show. I i just wondered dave are there more chances for summer slim to be memorable versus takeover yeah. I think you might get that moment now. Whether it's ronda rousey housi- is it something possibly with bray wyatt and finn ballor. I think there could be a moment on sunday that we remember ten or fifteen years down the road. Oh baby even more when it comes to annex t annexed. He does it on such a regular basis that a lot of these annex t takeovers get overlooked because months it's later they outdid themselves from the last one so to answer your question i think yes i think sunday. Show may be more memorable than what we see on saturday saturday and that's that's not a bad thing. I think it's good that we're even having this conversation because i think a lot of the times it's been automatically. It'll be takeover and that's okay. That's okay. They set that standard but i think there's a lot of good on both shows. I wonder if this is the most story telling driven takeover that maybe we'll ever ever see because of how deep the stories have gone which is a credit to that that brand that yeah we expect good matches but they've told some really good stories stories here and it might be more about the stories that are being told than the quality of the matches agree. Let's go out to west in florida west. Would you say about summer slam. Hey dave how how's it going today. What's up all right so i'm nervous dave w._w._e. Has my hopes up right now with with these storylines especially the roman reigns storyline. I really hope that we don't find out summer. Slam who is attacking roman reigns. I i hope we don't i have a feeling we might but i hope we don't but this is why i'm nervous dave time and time again w._w._e. Gets our hopes what's up with these great storylines and then nine times out of ten. They end in ways that are complete. Let down into an example well. The whole kurt angle big secret thing illegitimate child ends up being chased like that was so stupid but i had my hope that there was something interesting at the end of that bridge instead of a pot of gold. It was a pot of crap and i'm really afraid that we're going to get that with this. Roman reigns storyline and i hope it doesn't end at that summer slam i. I'm excited for summer slam. I'm excited to see more of what's going to happen with the <hes> women's title as well as owens and insane but i hate to use this analogy dave but w._w._e.'s disappointment to me and this is the best analogy i have. I apologize. It's a lot like herpes. As soon as you think it's gone. They come back with. It and i really hope we're not let down this. This coming sunday a day in summer slam and this roman reigns storyline continues on beyond that into monday a couple of things in west. Let me introduce you. My friend matt matt west west. This matt sorry my still here. I wasn't sure i was let down by west is phone call for just talking directly dave the whole. That's okay listen. No oh it's okay. It's okay. I understand your visitor. Okay all right says. I'd like the herpes dave. I just come back when you least expensive expect. Everyone's gonna know who you you are. Okay okay. I gotcha all right. That's why i introduced. You got the dave logan rick rub. Let's two hours and west answer your question. It's a good one and matt. I want to get you involved in the thank you because with roman reigns obviously that's the big story coming out of this week rome and not on the card could daniel bryan bryan m._p. Behind the attacks while daniel bryan's on the card rohan we we know was involved. He's not on the card samoa joe even even though there was an apology issued he might be behind it. He's not on the card. It's funny that the biggest story coming out of this week all the players involved involved not on the summer. Slow smackdown closed the last main roster. Show of the week was that angle and there's no indication like there's not even an announcement dave and maybe this'll come today. There's a segment they'll say you know. Roman reigns will address the his the story in an interview in a pre show thing something something but for the fact that it's a story roman reigns daniel bryan or not wrestling on summer slam match samoa joe does not have a match. That's baffling to me now to go back to west is phone call and west. Thanks so much for the phone. Call and enjoy sunday. I don't want the answer to that story story happening agree at summer sam because it just doesn't fit and it's something that's so good. This should play out. I'm just i find it weird that they decided to do this and started two weeks before summer slam and it doesn't involve your second biggest pay per view of the year it can end. The answer cannot not be roan. I don't even want it to be daniel bryan. I want this to be a who done. I wanted to take time you know bruce. Prichard told the story of how they did the thing with austin right they had to write them off and they ran adam over the car and then he was gone and they didn't have an answer they didn't have the they didn't work backwards. J._r. always talks about working backwards. What's the finish where we trying to get to. Let's it's work back. I hope they know what the answer is and i don't know if it's a debut in star from an expertise at somebody new. Is it a you know. I always feel like this sets up. Well l. dave to be a baby face. That's out of nowhere makes a big turn. Whether it's jealousy or rowen did something aurora rowen was at him doing something on roman what the roman do something to this person something. We're forgetting speaking of stone. Call getting run over. Who was that rower union just a couple of weeks ago stone. Oh coach steve austin okay who ran stone cold steve austin over or kishi he was there. He did it for the rock. What did he do to rome wasn't ricky. Is it makishi dave or we overlooking the fact that the man who took out stone cold steve austin could be the one who took out roman reigns well we did have that sim olin summit a couple very very much. I went awry. Could it be often seek. The wild samoans is the rock mad that roman made him look at it at royal rumble symbol a couple years ago in philly so ricky did it for the rock once again and who knows maybe this is setting up. The rock and roman reigns at wrestlemainia thirty six. Did we just book something title up better. It's better than anything. We're going to see on sunday. I'm ready for rolling in the ra- because she tried to take them out ricky doing rock. I hey so let me ask you. Who was the rocks final opponent in his last match before his quiet retirement eric rowe there you go. We just wow al gore we look at what we just did role in getting framed by the rock yes even though it was ricky. She who took out roman because rock was mad that he got booted philly at the rumble to set up roman and the rock at wrestlemania next year likely you're hearing god's busted open live weekdays from nine a._m. To twelve p._m. Eastern on sirius x._m. Fe niessen channel one fifty six or on the map. I'm seeing a different side. You are you. Are you like this. When you're hosting with bully or mark <hes> no not at all no no bull. I picked my spots. Pick my spots a little differently. I was asked recently on something thing. I went to you know how do you deal with different host and people you work with. I said sometimes you gotta turn it up if they don't turn it up as much time to turn down if they're doing more you gotta work back to your different hosting professional see you have to. I will give you up to deal with this every week. You're dealing with at least two co-hosts every week and you adjust right no. I'm basically the same yeah. I try not to change because you know. I find that you want to be yourself. Don't try to be somebody different but hey you being take has worked for you for ten years on sirius x._m. Fantasy sports radio and then in two years here on busted open and we're could <music> are fans. Listen to you wow two hours twenty minutes later. I got to plug where i actually come from during the weekends saturday and sunday three to five eastern eastern sirius x._m. Eighty-seven fantasy sports radio a good show to pick up on demand as well and we're going to canton ohio next week day. What's there nothing nothing like going to canton ohio a week after two weeks hall of famer doing rafts from canton ohio where we do them right next the bus through now. That's pretty cool. That's last year so we do drafts and people learn we did i was i was twelve feet from where you are right now over last weekend <hes> because we did three more drafts there because people like to listen to those and learn so i just host them and guide people around the actually i and i've i've. I've been lucky enough to work at the hall of fame for a few of their ceremonies. There's nothing like <hes> canton ohio in that pro football fan. It's i mean it's the city city. Stadium just pops out of nowhere and then walk it through the building is really cool and we get to do it right next to the buster so it's a cool atmosphere to be in so people can can listen or if you're in the area. Come check us out all right so if you want to hear more madcap. Who do you do the show with matt. Joe dolan is typical co-host. I've been with him for <hes>. We're in our tenth season now ten years on three six nine nine years on the fantasy channel so it's typically him and i was all over the place this week. I worked with a couple of different guys so but that's that's why usually work with our our big show. Dave is on sundays during the season. We do the game day. Show as i explain it to people it's basically red zone but on the radio okay fantasy stats ads and we appreciate it. I mentioned about who else could possibly be behind what what took place with roman reigns and this particular person. We're gonna see on sunday. Is there any way it could be bray why i was wondering if that's where you're going you know when i thought it could could be bray wyatt you remember when who was it. Was it sammy who was hung upside down backstage. Yes and i went thinking of what bully was saying right creating that just i just just causing trouble and creating madness. I thought that was the start of something. They were doing with bray where it would be. Oh well somebody else fuelling with sammy so it's got to be that person. I think that would be interesting because it would make sense but we're so conditioned right if you're in a feud with this person or this tag team that's all you're doing and that's it. You know the reason that we don't see people come out and help. Seth rollins is because they're busy doing other things. Would that be something that would play into the madness of the firefly funhouse that while he is feuding with bray with within baylor. He is creating <unk> havoc elsewhere. I would love it and i think it'd be great and then i think this story kind of ends on sunday which is okay which just fine and here's the thing a lot of people are saying well. Wait a second. Do you really want to put ray. Wi with roman reigns because romans is going to be pray why uh <music> but i don't know if that's the case anymore number one and number two. He's already had eric rowe and do his dirty word. Ooh maybe the next series of matches ages isn't braying roman but rowing in roman what if they take their time on this. I think the best idea if you're gonna make a break why i think the best idea for whatever about you reveal this joe cole host now. What if you reveal this. Dave on the first episode of smackdown on fox big reveal happens eh months down the road. I think that's what this should be. Let roman think he figured it out and think it is rohan and then you know what for a couple of weeks nothing nothing happens and then something happens again and it's wait a minute. I already took him out. Maybe then he goes after daniel. Bryan takes him takes him out. Stuff happens again yeah and now we're into september into october and then it ends up being. I think the best way to do that if it is bray. Is you take your time with this and realize yes. He is even more dangerous than we could have imagined. Are you surprised that they started this story. Lines just a couple of weeks before the second biggest pay per view of the year knowing knowing how the company currently operates no okay no. I like the idea i mean it's gotta start at some time right yeah and if you're not if it's not peaking this weekend the maybe it's not a bad time because it is a hot time in this is when people would check back in summer slam time usual time wrestlemainia the time. Maybe they go. Hey we're gonna start this now. Maybe it'll keep people hooked and we lead it into october so i don't have a problem with the starting time as it relates the summer slam a._m. Because i hope and i think it's just the beginning of this. Let's go out to hank in chicago hank. Would you want to say about summer slam. What's going on guys. <hes> <hes> had a few points here. I'll try to quickly <hes> you know. You're talking about the main event. I definitely think how everything's been constructed in. What's been important. We're in. I think it'd be smart if they went to wrestlemainia route opened with brock inside. I believe it was <hes> kinda. Get that out of the way and i really do think that natty mbeki <hes> you know would be a great closer. Especially you know of trish somehow not tricia part of me. Rhonda somehow distracted becky. You know not enough to where you give all the credit because you know nancy deserve shine. <hes> you know i tweeted awhile ago. Bully mentioned you know it's it's. There's just a lot going on two days before the passing of her father's one year anniversary so i you know we use the word deserves a lot. Nancy definitely deserves a spot in her hometown. I think it'd be wild card. <hes> crowd shy and <hes> last thing they've ever question for you. How's your back feeling. Uh it's really my shoulders are bothering me not my back okay because you know you are just hosting hoisting. You know all look fight nation on your back this whole channel the whole town okay all right you say okay so you're making a slight remark against <hes> camp. Oh make no mistakes about. I am definitely kempler graca in this one. Okay okay so it's a team there and and i do have to say hank hank thanks. Thanks for the compliment in the phone call. I we have a strong. We have strong programming here on fire nation. Never going to take a shot at luke luke thomas. I would never take a shot at lou thomas or any of the programming that we have here on fire nation lou thomas big fan of luke thomas show and there's the boxing show then i love to m._m._a. Tonight mr tate does a wonderful job randy gordon gerry cooney do a good job. It took me a while to remember member who they were but they do a good job matt. You're keeping very very quiet. I'm letting you dig this whole job. Who put okay gotcha they. I said i said you're being protected by moore assist. You wanted to let you down nicely that you're not on my show tomorrow. Because there was a lack of interest. You said it was a lack of interest in our end. Take that for what you will but you're going to toronto for a reason toronto toronto this weekend. You're going there for a reason speaking of lifting up on your shoulders. I think mark henry is gonna carry everybody on sunday. Oh yeah listen. He carries me. I will say that but that's i mean he's. He's the world and whatever he will carry. You and that's okay and that's okay. He'll carry right over the threshold into the erica. Thanks for listening catch us weekdays on busted open from nine a._m. To twelve p._m. Eastern on sirius x._m. By nation channel one fifty six busted open podcast.

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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 106: AIW and The Slumber Party Massacre In New Jersey (Preview)

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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 106: AIW and The Slumber Party Massacre In New Jersey (Preview)

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Don't turn that dial or choke you out way in the world to take them all your lives hanaway sometime ago where everybody John Trouble on you when you and welcome back to wrestling cheers where everybody knows your name even when you're two states away this is resting chairs would like to talk about things going on the northeast while independent wrestling scene we preview shows we review shows and sometimes we even have interviews along the way this is a very special episode for the preview of A._i.. Ws Wrestlemainia Wrestlemainia weekend show the slumber party massacre. which is this Thursday April fourth at the White Eagle Hall in Jersey City New Jersey? How many tickets are necessarily left but if you can't watching on there you can't be live? I should say it's it's available on T._v.. You can get either just the event or you can get the whole collective as a whole so I am your host. I am heavy set so we are brought to you by the trending topics network Midwest territory and key on Sports. Please rate review and subscribe wherever you listen it's fine pike as whether it be apple podcast Google podcast institute in Youtube spotify iheartradio Padre and wrestling cheers pod bean dot com find us on all your Social Asia media such as facebook twitter and Instagram facebook dot com slash rush insures twitter dot com slash registers instagram dot com slash wrestling cheers email. If you so choose a desire wrestling cheers at g mail DOT COM and we have the merged or over at one maneuver dot net thing I I said my name was heavy set as the host Feis said that no Justin Summers whatever you want <unk> still getting used to that too much of one spiel anyway like I said this he added you said a lot of stuff. I've said that before but holy Shit could never yeah right are his babble for like eight minutes and then all of a sudden it starts by the way we have padre and Dan on this episode. We Have Ed an Ron Ron Patrick whatever I don't know I said that whatever those names dude I said. I don't like pat for reasons but I'll tell you patrick. Whatever whatever I'll probably answer to allow things it's fine so you know we have <hes> I've? I've been pulling to get you both on for a long time. It just never works out one reason or another. I've been really busy lately with just alive things. I have a bunch of different jobs and MIA do the PODCASTS. I talk all the time so you know maybe people don't want to hear my voice that much. I don't know do scared to do anything without Pat. I like that excuse yeah you Patrick the last time you were on. You hadn't been on at that point. You hadn't been on on since October when it was me you and thrift store jobber. He hasn't been on in a while either. He seems to be busy but we were talking. He S J yeah he's. He's a popular guy. He's all over the place but but now sometimes life happens. We're all adults so now so we gotta do stuff that's all right but it was so long ago we were talking about me and thrift store jobber going to a nice EP concert after it happened a couple of Gigolos you to a couple of regular old gigolos unless Mr Brian Posing and and you think sublime fans are similar to juggle. I don't care duty. He's not far off. I mean subcultures like that. I'll see similar in certain ways if you're being honest but you know he. He always said that I've always said the ferries are the Juggle Ozo- nerd culture. Maybe that's why somebody was so offended when he accused them of being one name redacted. I guess not talk about that. I mean I mean I like sublime. I like EP Brian Jose. I like him but he also likes slayer and I think they're the worst band ever as much as they want to say. It's imagine dragons and I'm like have you heard your music. I hate your music and I've seen you live in concert and it was dreadful all right all right enough of this layer bashing anyway we cut. This wrestlemainia showed an I'm once again. I'm not going but it's just I couldn't. I couldn't swing it. If if I wanted to with a with a new job on multiple other things I could do it. I spent a lot of money on these tickets a long time ago so <hes> yeah that was a little easier I suppose but I've never been to Wrestlemania weekend so this is Kinda my like one and done sort of thing here. That's kind of where I'm at. I've I'm not necessarily one in done like I did the one in Orlando it was fun and all but unless it's coming somewhere closer than New New York like Detroit Indianapolis Pittsburgh or Toronto at the furthest like I'm not going and I don't think any of them have a shot except for maybe Indianapolis but for some reason they're never in the mid forty even though they got a great stadium that would create for Wrestlemainia but then you had to hang a mini Indianapolis Minneapolis Indianapolis seems terrible. INDIES is pretty cool. City Alley WRESTLEMAINIA and cool cities IPAD ORLANDO was awesome. I wasn't saw Harry Potter stuff great like than this one's near New York so like yeah. It should only be awesome places. I think if I went I'd WanNa go to S._N._l.. But I don't know if they're new this week or not because I think they are because everybody keeps talking about how Braun strowman should be on it listen. If you want to go to Saturday night live over spring break to then then. I don't know what to tell you I don't know I know I'm the weird person that actually enjoys that but S. and L.'s there. You know what I mean like. You could S._N._l.. The next week or the week after week after hell six months from then S._N._l.. is going to be there in live spring. Break happens once a year man. That was a mad T._v.. Guy You know yeah. That's already language from Co yes. I didn't like Mad T._v.. Because it wasn't live I felt like you can do anything when you're prerecorded yeah right Gotcha but like in living color wasn't live either in that show was great like right. That wasn't live no. I don't think it was but they were their own downfall. I just watched it on them ironically enough where they basically said the network got who involved and they ruined it all. That's better than all of them so I want to agree because I do own a homey the clown doll that I found it a goodwill but I don't know I love Farley so I'm hunt hardcore bias to that homie the clown talk goodwill yeah. That's an interesting find the sentence anyway. This isn't Pod van Damme. We don't have questions from from twitter. We we got this car to go over and going into our normal preview format. We have three matches. We're going to talk about and then we're going to go into picks for the rest of them. Let's start with this match. Let's start with the submit or surrender Dominic Rini versus Joshua Bishop. These two have been on a feud for what feels like a year by don't think so it's kind of goes from what like after absolution wasn't absolution absolution when he when bishop him started I wanNA say was absolution. Wasn't it was just after everything is blending together. I'm trying to WHO's got a computer open. Cayden was here he even know so he might know but this has been going on for a while and I'm curious to see. Where will this be the end will this be the final end of these two are could go even further? I think a with as Maserati the West is going to the show if he's going to Jersey but that's a factor and everything. If can you imagine how many West not party in Wrestlemania weekend yeah. The kids got a frigging jet. He can go wherever he wants. What do you mean if he's going? He might have other owl. He might have other engagements. We're talking about Maserati was here and I know Maserati was it. He loves party these to those things put together. I can't imagine him listen media weekend yeah for he's got his managers licensed to which pretty much allows them to be ringside so I'm pretty sure he's going to be their manager. So does this end here. Is this the end it would be. It would be an appropriate place for it. I could see it culminating here. <hes> but I don't know it's on I pay per view so I feel like we're GonNa have the whole A._i.. W crowd with us whether everyone makes the the travel or not. I think all the regulars are Kinda GonNa be doing. This is one so I could see some storyline progression stuff happening for sure on this match we think at its end here. It's similar surrender right. Where where else could he live murder match like this like with ah I what if somebody comes in interferes though you know what I mean like I got? I guess you're right yeah. I don't know what if Kevin coup interferes and then we see some tag type stuff yeah sad com versus on if they're going to call himself the city shooters but you still have those like that could be fun. I think I've with that I think it ends submitter surrender somebody. Somebody's doing something to somebody where they're they're. It's going to end there. I agree. I think also going forward this could very well be then like I could see like I haven't decided whether I think it's going to end or not but just going over possibilities. The next show has gauntlet for the gold yeah a couple of shows after that is Jalen and lot of feuds kind of like end right before those but they'll get relive it no pun intended which but look at reignited and had it out of a new wrinkle too because I mean it's very unbelievable that let's say bishop wins but dom wins Gauntlet <hes> it's weird. It's weird that <hes> we I still thinking about the the AGILA cashed in from J. Let how that kind of bums me out. He'll be he'll be will be you know <hes> back this weekend so could he could. He come to this year's Jalen do something that's the okay. There's the other thing his return. Is that spring break correct yeah Friday night if it if it wasn't set up like that this is I think this would be crazy to say we're. We're GONNA eventually talk about the main event but let's say whoever wins the main event they get cash in by Jamila like on the spot but he's making yeah if he didn't have the right if you didn't have like well this is my official return. I would say you know what what why not that but at the same time but I think he's given given that juicy W for streak I mean I don't. I don't think you're gonNA see that before Friday night. That's what I'm saying if he if he didn't say that but he did so it's like okay. I WanNa take his word for it that it's not had had had A._i.. W Ban like after spring break cake like that late show after like how black rafters yeah it could have maybe worked out that way but what if what if I'm right but he cashes in but not for that show for gauntlet he just comes out and says hey. I want a shot at Gauntlet Bieber's Mike. It's been long enough gauntlet. Let's do this yeah 'cause. It did say in ring so maybe it's maybe he comes out and says some that'd be awesome. As a WS raining Jamila lamarcus <unk> enjoy thoroughly yeah I would easily say you're the the reigning Genoa Mark I don't. I don't know if anybody loves them more than you. It's bad boy man I mean there are a couple of people that I think that are huge fans of his but I think you take the cake he he was one of the first like India guys to get me to kind of really buy into indy wrestling and I guess maybe that's why I like him as much as I do. I don't know I think comparing you to other. Genera fans like comparing meet Ed on Fontaine Correct Eddie Fontaine right of Marion Fontaine okay. I'm more on the level of you pat. I love like I'm that huge Fontaine. She fairness note no event it. That's fine. I really like the boogeyman so you ought to eat worms at wrestle con. Oh man no totally worms so are you seeing them at risk on though is only going to be there Saturday on dial man but you know who is going to be there. The boogie Woogie me in should evaluate the picture. Take it with him. Similar surname son similar PAT Chote. Maybe you can jokingly confuse them and be like all the grey. Oh you don't have your face paint on the day. You didn't bring the worm worms man three layers. I'm wrestlers if they're anything they're not you know what they are is. Just they love jokes. jokey silly great exudes. They're definitely silly. Boys and I can't wait for wrestle con Tony. I WanNa see Tony Atlas. Just look pissed off like I mean Greg Valentine looking miserable. You can dance sandwich on rich stokes cam awesome really I don't. I don't understand how people can spend like a like a whole day. There I went I went to mania. I went to wrestle two days but I might have been there an hour. Each day if that most of it was walking around or chilling by the W why that was like there was a couple of people I wanted to see I got knocked those out quick each day and that was it <hes> so we were talking about a wrestling match what happened <hes>. You're talking about Greenie versus Joshua Bishop but then we got we got we got on the Genoa Tangent you know I you know what I was GonNa say. Though <hes> real quick is side from <hes> Swat Steiner <hes> which no offence but when I make my statement I think everyone would agree pretty much. Every other match on this card could be like an A._i.. W main event so like we you know there's been people that Kinda Shit talk the w Carter a little bit and leave it to the big boys Blah Blah Blah. I don't know I think it's going to be pretty sweet like every match on the card could be like a regular show at homes like main event like I said aside from Swat Steiner like pretty much everything I mean. Maybe not the Ethan Page Cabana four t tag but I don't know that that would be a big match argue every yeah I could probably argue everyone aside from spago Steiner if you really had me too so. I don't know I think I think this mania show is going to be pretty awesome personally. I want to put a request out there John Thorne. I don't know if you'll listen to this but somebody might listen tell him. Can you please try to book Disco Inferno. I just WANNA BOO him so bad. Don't give them money yea <unk>. He's not he's not GonNa do that no matter what no matter what the idea people doing share but he still gets to go home with a paycheck now kirk anyone wants that can can you work out the deal that he takes all the meet-and-greet money nobody goes and get to meet and greet <hes> but I don't know how the business works but no one no one wants. No one wants to pitch with that Kook. I didn't like him before he talked shit about A._W._S.. And that was like oh you just like buried yourself even more. You're you're a fucking joking W._C._W.. Like you imagine giving us shit with Glenn Gilbert things. Did you imagine giving shit when people like Cornet and Rousseau when all them think to. There's people out there that just worship those fuckers. I yeah the love Corny through so we got a history look. There's this funny thing that happened in wrestling tear you what shot up do I have you on mute for reasons awesome do not like you but that's just me man so <hes> what else what other matches we got here. I'm excited couple more days of work and I'm we're there. We have the A W tag team title match attached to Infinity and beyond the defending champions versus the production versus p. m. e. versus the boys from Jolly Ville Aka the Jolly Ville Fuck. It's this this match along with the main event match. We'll talk about next. X was really <hes> put together at the last show. Why am I blanking on the name from it? Not Wrestle Rave will get on that review later this week seven year itch. Thank you seven year itch a side note. We've had slight so many shows at once. I'm not I'm talking about coming up but it was like shows that were announced like at one time we had like a good five or six. We still have once coming saw them now to a point where Mike whim show was at now anyway back to that. Both of these matches were built at seven year hitch to get into the slumber party massacre. This is a really hard match for me to like pick a favorite I went up obviously picking picks right now but you have to invent beyond defending champions champions for majority of the last few two years. The production is on their way up. Peony is hands down one of the most popular tag teams in A._I.. W and the veterans the fuck its former tagging champions and have been trying to regain the titles ever since they lost them ever since they came back to w like how how are you feeling about this match start with you. Did we lose him unless he's on mute or he walked away from the microphone and you'll comeback. I'm like five minutes. I don't know well are the better <hes> it's there's going to be so much going on in this match. You know like you said it's four pretty big. Well known tag teams in Ahah W <hes> Cheech <hes> when you when you listen into this because we know everyone all the wrestlers listening to this show <hes>. Can You bring that rb Desierto help. You got it in your bag for me. Buddy is bring the R._V. Shirt. There's an attack that shirt for me buddy <hes> we YEP Yemi arising real hot <hes> production also rockets on their asses as beloved tag teams. Johnny will fuck. It's impossible and we're not doing picks but it's impossible to pick man we A. Going on. How are you feeling about this match? Now that you're back the productions get weird shit and I'm into it yeah. You're all for that of course yeah. It's getting real weird big fan at all <hes> the fuck are always terrifying to pick against a to infinity beyond you know because they always win always win always win. All is lamb. They always do always always win. You would figure that P._M.. As moment has to be coming I don't know whether it's going to be video absolution the Chandler Biggest Memorial Tag team tournament. It's gotta be coming. It would be like that huge. I think because they've they were planning on having it. Be You know Magnum and Frankie versus the weird world and that was probably going to be the world's big moment. Unfortunately you know things happen and now are where at this this four way match the P._M.. At that moment or do we push it off later. I think that's going to be a big I if they don't win between now and at the very least at the end of the year but I say half solution like that's going to be huge mainly because they're so loved waking up yeah I mean I could see I could see the moment happening but you never know I mean maybe they this could be something to build even further towards absolution. Maybe they you know win. Becca cheated or you know something and don't actually win. It's hard to say maybe the maybe the chases better for p. m. e. than than having who knows <hes> charred to say. There's there's four really kickable teams in this so it's hard to say any which way to be honest I. How do you feel about P._M.? Head I I WANNA I wanNA say they have a great chance to win this match but then we also know that to infinity on always win you know they win. They win all the time all all the time always and they don't lose and that's key so I don't I don't know when they're moments coming because to infinity beyond I I mean P._B.. And Horn will beat them but then they want again because they win all the time and ended a four way and opens it up for easier Shenanigan. You Know Rolled Teaching Colin. They you know so it's I don't know I could see I could see it happening. I'd love to see Ame the the champs. I was Kinda thinking imagine if the weird world screwed me out of the titles because that was their moment they got robbed and they had to sit on the bench and that the sell beer or whatever they're doing for the show man. I really hope they let worldwide behind the bar for the ad that'd be show. Make it feel like home for you boy. I we're going to be a few states away and the White Eagle Hall is not GonNa be like any venues. WE'VE BEEN IN CLEVELAND SO if all worldwide's behind that bar your boys going to be feeling real real comfy I was gonna say when's the last show that W had had beer but I forgot wrestle raven. I wasn't there he but that's not an ethic year thinking like Mount Carmel where like the the you know the talent near the students and whatnot were the bartenders so I'm guessing you're going for well that whatever they're doing but in my head when I think w shows because for so many years that's where we went. I think Malcolm Oh it's hard to get used to like Oh when I think w I'm thinking of a different venue because so many years limbo ozzy before that was turned all and now we're GONNA we're spending another period where were just bouncing around though I do like the the Parma location and sucks there's no bleachers so people can't get that kind of aesthetic but all along like it was pretty fun venue. It was big enough to I felt like it held us good. We weren't like cramped in there Ohio. Nets was my favorite yeah. That's right by my house. I'm all for that place. I think that's probably the closest venue to my new work which is like right on the border of Brook Park in Berea all right and let's move on to the main event of of the evening the a w absolute title match the New Champ P._b.. Smooth versus filthy. Tom Lawlor versus. Tim Dons versus the intense champion Matthew Justice. What a way may well? Maybe not the main event of all four these men in the title match you have P._B.. Like I said the new champion the vet in A._i.. W Tim Dons Philly Tom Waller who has incredible <hes> record and the resurgence of Matthew Justice since he came back like two years ago like the resurrection of Matthew Justice Has Been Insane and he has the potential of walking out both champions justice to belts absolute intense champion Yeah you say you're not sure if it's a main I thought they it is. It's the main of that right. They said that I wasn't sure if they would do that or swale and Steiner. No no no. That's not okay no. I'm pretty sure it's been it's been it said that that that is the main event. It's going on last how yom how you feel about this. Match Bat. It's going to be is going to be a fucking brawl. I know that <hes> <hes> four all P._B.. Is Pretty fucking pissed off. <hes> I know that you to this isn't a review of that show but <hes> youtube or not at wrestle rave <hes> p._B.. Smooth is pretty fucking in pissed off at I suppose the entire ad says a whole I guess is Alan wants US trying to put over no he thinks no one believes him in him and he's just kind of a placeholder so he's real fucking pissed off <hes> Matthew Justice as you you said it is on an absolute fuck and tear that danishes destroying shit <hes> as everyone who is in attendance wrestle rave knows this wild shit he's capable of some some wild shit <hes> filthy time absolute beast <hes>. He's the man I it's decision is <hes> Tim dons also less. We've said <hes> has had some of the best matches of twenty eighteen with w spent done some wild sheet as well so it is going to be an absolute barn burner while all deserve <unk>. It's going to be wild <hes> kind of excited that it's in a new venue in a weird place because maybe they can jump off or break some wild shit. We don't have to worry Oh. They're not going to be an invite invited back. You know what I mean. They do some wild Al Shit and will be Thursday night as opposed to like Saturday where they might be a little more lenient. You know they haven't been being bitched at for three days straight of people breaking chairs and whatnot so maybe they can get away with some more wild shit. I don't know I just know it's going to be a crazy crazy time. I think Pe- be trying to get to my heart talking about danced and that Promo House like Oh. He's he's he's pretty angry this. What did you say he came out and cut a promo at the end of wrestle rave bed he? He's pretty upset. You have a I think a couple videos of it online yeah he put a video out of it for sure <hes> in the absence of wrestling cheers not being ak me doing the videos. Does there is a lot of people covering for which I've lead into for us. You just did it for yourself which is fine but no it you actually help people like me who couldn't go and I got to be on the other side of it to see a lot of the the highlights that that was that not not everybody I think at that Promo but sometimes like those are some of the best moments yeah you can get the in ring ship but promos that air W is not necessarily going to you know put out on youtube not to mention with as much. I didn't think about until we were talking about it. You know one of the big matches from last year was frigging dance versus justice. We now added into this match right. They're pretty familiar with each other. I'm like I said filthy. Tom Lawlor and hopefully this is going to be crazy. fucking match and I don't know what that venues like. I can only imagine it's GonNa be fucking great. What are your thoughts on this match Ed? It's real. It's a real weird match a home P._B.. SMOOTHS got a lot to prove that doesn't mean he's GonNa be able to 'cause isn't there was <hes> match justices insane. Tim Dons twos proven veteran and then one of the Battisti's of the planet. Tom Lawlor I. It's it's. It's hard to say. WHO's GonNa win this chiefs? Everybody's everybody's got pretty much nickel chance at this point. You know what I mean like. There's no heavy favorite yeah. I really do WANNA see Jarallah. Come out no matter who wins man that would be a way to end the show. That's for sure it allowed to yeah. I would think I mean just an appearance too. I would think if there's anything that I mean he's as far as I know the contract stuff. I don't think his stuff goes to like October. Something I think him in somebody else have the contract where they can work some dates no up until a certain day but either way if what you're talking about you know where he just comes out <hes>. I think you're allowed to do anything like that where you can just appear especially for a W. I don't think they have any type of clause like that where you can't even appear like I'm curious and I could. I want to call Tony and ask them but I also don't WanNa likes to GE- out anything you know what I mean yeah well. Did you get. Did you get co opted yet or still cleared. Check okay good goal from the money good. I think that would be a gray moment. Angelica obviously not necessarily cashing at that moment. I understand keeping that for G C W it's it's been advertisers such that shouldn't be broken. Stop you there. It's actually a e w wrestler Josiah Ella we gotta check cleared so we got a year but good call ed the check cleared so my check in as much as I would love to see that happen I just. I just don't think it's GonNa I don't think. I don't know I don't know I. I'm looking forward to Friday night. When we you know we're going to see him at night? I think it would be incredible but I just think it might. It's a little too much for I don't know I don't know they say who he's wrestling clean reading. That's part of it but there was also supposed to be a big announcement tonight and I they did announce something but I don't know if that was. I guess that was not not who's wrestling but what they announced mayor. We'll see but I there's there's a part of me that does hope whether it be this show whether it become Lynn wherever whenever it is that Georgia does get the cash in he I hope he does we don't become the you know. The hits think it'd be like whatever moment where they don't you know cash. It's uh-huh one other person. Maybe not or something like that said I don't know if it's been referenced before but that would really suck if he was the one <unk> time limit on it as like a year or does he use it before the next one I think they said something to the point point of using for the next one but they were Kinda. I think they've stated that they kind of gave him more. 'cause it's 'cause Joey pretty much right. I mean that's fine the little asterix beside the rules put because Joey like I don't think anyone's GonNa argue that it's me right. I mean it's mainly because of the injury like didn't get a proper chance to cash in like they weren't sure the tells us is big. Mike Galligan in the same situation happens. We're not holding handed over for you know what I mean. I think it's because it's showy pretty sure that's that's what it is. I mean he he's the only one to win jail it but he wasn't going for the contract thing. He put his title on Line that everything was four similar to air crime but that was a vacant title because that's one thing that I was always tripped up on thought elegant was all putting the title on the line but also given the opportunity for someone to have that shot so I thought he could've used it like after losing the title but turns out no that's not the way it was told so yeah. I hope we get to see a cash moment from obviously it would be. That'd be pretty awesome all right. Let's go to this commercial break and we'll become right back with the rest of the picks. Are you tired of the same old pro wrestling thing then check out the amazing action on Power Slam Dot TV the biggest indy pro wrestling channel in the world get over four thousand hours of the best pro wrestling events from over one hundred and ten the biggest names in the industry over fifteen countries around the globe. Get your free trial to date at Power Slam DOT TV and we're back so let's dive back into this card and let's start making some picks. Let's start off with the match that started all the announcements are starting to all the hype with Scott Steiner versus Suenaga as much as I would. I think it'd be cool or funny deceased Waga with it's it's gotta be Steiner honor. This has to be signed all fucking day how you say on a preface all of my pigs with this all right but that's not set in stone because what I'm GonNa do is cheer for everyone. I heard I heard I heard David. Dixon spans come in everyone the he does in hopes that we become best friends so because I've got a lot of Hulk Hogan questions so I want to be best friends with vicks okay listen. I got a plan all right just a disgust <unk> stuff like this with me beforehand. I think I'm discussing it with you. Now say yeah if you whisper he can still hear you. You know you don't know that I do know science behind it <hes> s if I have to pick you might not set in stone cheering for victories for I'm going to go Scott Steiner yeah. They were saying that Suenaga was saying he wanted to do something big for any weekend didn't get that like his many bookings last Jersey wines. WHO said he wanted to do something this year? I think it says Scott Steiner is GONNA kill 'em in in Stein's gonNA murder Swab on SWAT SWAT GONNA get murdered. That's that's what the big thing is going to do is going to get murdered so yeah. I got good Steiner winning this Z.. Com moffat asked you think man for sure because I mean they've already. They've already <hes> they referenced that. He said he had trouble working with little people so because of their their bottom heavy so I'm sure that's gotta becoming how about Eddie Kingston versus Otani. I honestly don't know much about Otani. I'M GONNA go with Eddie Kingston. How about you ED? You know more than than two of us. In the future Otani junior heavyweight anyway headed heavyweight run too but most have right right in new Japan left desire one most importantly though he used to have red hair and come up with Samurai swords. I don't know if he comes Samurai swords or not anymore. I guess we'll see it. I'm very excited about that. Yes in in the graphic. He's like miming. A Samurai sword a kind of bums me out that he doesn't have a sword as a P. Awesome if he did come out with fucking swords that'd be her and he does he does pretend swords. Is that cooler. What do you think cool man be pretty fucking tight yeah? I'm down with that. So what's your picks. Any is any Kingston. I got otani. I think Kingston puts a tiny over. I hope we don't see any go out. <hes> you know he's threatened to threaten to leave wrestling at the end of the year but I gotTa Otani we have the Mexican death match rematch Sh- La Familia de Tijuana versus the young studs youngsters one the first round right. I don't know I'm pretty sure they lost after Eric. Ryan got power by them through a plate glass window. Okay Bar Boyer born got all fucked up he. I think they lost okay that I'm going to be at this time around. He I agree. I think we see Bobby Beverly Eric Ryan get that the rematch here the the revenge mania moment here for sure this one's GonNa be wild is all fucked to <hes> Magana situation where <hes> where we're not in the home building where no one's Kinda worry about like Oh. Hey you know you're not gonNA be invited back at Shit so yeah I think Eric Ryan asked for something like he wanted like four hundred forks yeah. So how about you add some real talk a you know. You know who's going to win this right who nobody remember that last match they don't WanNa do anything like air heard about beverly. Did everything that match yeah. I got I could soon but they didn't do shit like I could see where you're going audette but I I see air grind and bobby getting the win here personally. I don't know what's the odds are. What are the odds that restore jobber throws a chair and gets kicked off a venue again? No we're past knocking. Let the happen APPA listen. I'm on way better. Watch now. <hes> there was chairs if this last show and I convinced a different person math restore this time totally different person to not throw a chair awesome. Wow because I'll tell you guys off the air. Oh yeah it was almost the same exact situation and I said no no no don't do that that grabbed it and put it back down and this person thought better of it looked around and went. Oh Yeah Right. I'm telling you it was not it was not Bryant to yeah. I'll tell you off the air. The only reason I'm not saying this person's name is because not not saying but Caitlyn's good they were definitely GonNa throw the chair and I was like no don't do not do that. Don't do that now with somebody who should know better but didn't really know better later but yeah not saying it in that moment you know yes. She Gets Wild Man Shik. It's wild. I does but yeah he he's even page M J F versus Colt Cabana and Space Monkey. I'M GONNA go Ethan page in J. F.. How `bout you ED AT A? I gotta go with Ethan Page J._F._K.. Because I always pick Ethan page and found out today the M J F is also also really loved the Rosie O'Donnell show just like I did when I was a kid and like I can relate to that and now now I like him. He is better than us. We do know that he's friends with Rosie. O'Donnell come on yeah yeah. I'm more surprised at that. Clip is making another round another round Pat. Thank you thank you thank you. We've seen this clip before. No one wants to believe me. What was it spring break last year spring break to when they played this <hes> I don't remember then I've seen his dad share like his other dad who the guy who he believes to be his daddy's shares on facebook so I I've seen it then yeah? I knew I've seen this about a year ago for sure. Eh <unk> yes. I knew I it's it was a moment that I was. I feel vindicated right now. It's awesome <hes> but yeah <hes>. I think it's an page. <hes> an jeff is a powerful fold tag team. <hes> the is so so like is Ethan pages with Dr. Dan is like M J F under the tutelage of D._C.. Are Now to like I feel like he's better than Dan Right. He's not taking. The taken advice from Dr Dickhead right no I think he's just by association just like Nj F- has been with Duke money before but he's not part of Duke Money Okay all right that makes sense how `Bout Semitic surrender dominant. I'm agreeing versus Joshua Bishop. I'M GONNA go Dominic Greenie. How about you that <hes> yeah I got? I got dom winning this one but I really think that <hes> trash brings brings the tool and kind of finally maybe maybe earns dimes respect here at the end of it. He kinda has a big brother puts him down moment but he also kinda finally little brother ends a little respect. Maybe <hes> and they go back to how they they were in. It's not so much you know I think dimes dimes lesson it landed in Josh is going to Kinda prove gets earned some respect but I I got taken the lead. I'M GONNA I want to go Josh Bishop. I like I like the ways been carried of self lately. He's got some real nine hundred ninety eight Kevin Kevin Nash Vibes to them so that's awesome. So how can you bet against somebody with of a of a nine hundred ninety eight Kevin Nash. I mean I agree. I think bishops great but dom has been fucking pissed lately. There is a fucking fire behind is there's a reason we haven't had him on so I could talk to him about Shrek matches and it's because he's a no mood talk about Shrek matches dude he will beat the shit out of you for saying that <unk> won't beat up over <hes> my idea for Shrek match. You know I wanna get Mike You Millennial on here so I could ask him to pay. I five question about wings just so he can be the one person to give their reasoning. Why bonuses better listen even a wing? Hey he says it's better so scared of Bones I. I don't know you've got him on your show when you ask them feeling. Boneless wings are like Diet Wings Right. Did we have then we. I think we redacted that. Does that as episode still off. I don't think we did that yeah. I don't know until tell you what you're talking about S- asking about chicken nuggets man. I know you guys deleted that episode. That's fucking hilarious. No no I don't think we did. I'm just being an asshole once they're up there up all right speaking pod Van Damme a two guys that have done the intro for pod Van Damme. We have Manse Warner versus Nick fucking gauge age. This isn't like another main event contender for regular air w shown cod I so wish I was seeing this live but if I'm I'm picking between the two I'm GonNa go man's Warner have a you had. Would you say that those are the two most popular Mueller <hes> Dame Openings No. I just said that they were. They were two of them would would you say they are because I think those would be the two five ones right. I think so I mean how many other ones are there. <hes> Steve This guy and ask 'em Jeme J. F.. Good one all manser tells the girl not to drink and drive. He's doing his duties. Solid Guy Man winters just a good guy. You know he realize <unk> avenging me era now thankfully ago answer. This thing goes me answer. I really don't know what to do. Guys I think I think Nick Gage is going to be office office game mentally no because in the same area of of of the world is going to be David Arquette his Kryptonite the only man brave enough to shoot on that gauge and I think that's that might be messily might be office game of always constantly look out for David Arquette. Are you making thinking puppet David Arquette. I know I have too much respect for David Arquette. He's shooter. I wouldn't want to make a mad shoot on me about puppet Vance Warner will know this up at Manse Werner would be awesome yeah. That's what I'm thinking in. It's so many puppets well puppets though get blues making these puppets time to make all these puppets you never you never made we'll. That's licensed material Israel. We don't talk about an M._p.. P._G.. But yeah guys back to this though for real what am I gonNA do man who. How do I decide who to root for here like can this be a situation where I just root for both them because I like I honestly don't even think it really can't be because like gauge wouldn't tolerate that right like if he sees me rooting for Manse he's I'll probably get kicked out of the gang? <hes> the silly thing protecting us at this point I mean like he told me that we're gang affiliated. Just root against your gangly. I mean that's pretty fucked up. I don't know I don't know man. They'll Manson's my guy. I I honestly don't even know if I could make pickier. I might literally Donald Man Manhunt off. I could do it be an M._d.. K. affiliated is one of the only things protected poverty dame right now. You know what I mean and you just picked against him. You son of a bitch. That's not doing us. Very good doesn't know me he listens to this show. You know my face. That's true so he does know my face. Though exactly I've had multiple encounters with Mr Gage. He knows exactly who I am so man I don't I can't I can't choose guys <music> can't do it can't do it. You got to pick. I pick the winner to be the audience because there's GonNa be an incredible match so you can I do that. You're picking a time limit draw. He asks okay. It's your in the audience wins because it's just a hell of a match. That is my answer hunker. Hell yeah that's that is some fence riding rate their press like it did a pretty good pretty good sir. I got nervous thought he's really GonNa make me pick one. That was good. Are you full that off. I was going to make you pick one but then I was like if you're not GonNa pick one then technically you're picking tie you got it which is GonNa get <hes> gauges scary right and he likes you. We gotta get him on on twitter like the the corporation itself fixed US whole no one can search for us thing what happened can't search for Pod Dame on twitter because for problematic content oh no. Is that what you said to that guy one hundred percent. That's what it is yeah ed can we should we just make another pod van Damme account like l.. <hes> vandamme like Alberto would he no he goes ell. We could be Alpi van Damme. Oh no refined where we are sitting on the new pod Vandamme facebook page no book. I have my grandma's set that up. Justin was on the guy behind the other one. I don't think it's been updated in a year or two. We know he had one. I've told you you had one and I forget things. I'm Joe. I didn't know we had one either. Eh about the WHO cares facebook real-life. It's positive podcast it's Pod van. It says it's the title of the page pod Van Damme podcast. I'm glad it exists. Are Let's go to the Awa tag team title match to infinity me on the defending champions versus the production versus p. m. e. versus the Jolly Ville Fuck. It's put up or shut up time right now. Whether repeat emmy comes out victorious I'm going with a safe bet to infinity and beyond but I think is going to come close to finishing beyond a Beta. They win always in all the time so so. I'M GONNA go with them all right well. I'm not picking those jerks unless rings my shirt cheech. I know you're listening if you bring my R._V.. D for twenty shirt you guys. They'll probably win every match that cheech funds <hes> otherwise I'm going for the pin me unless he brings by cheats brings my shirt. It's just the shirt come on cheech on man. Do me a solid brother. What's wrong come? On what are you scared of. He don't even wear it right. I won't tie it in that like a weird. Nineties teenager like you did respect for the shirt. She was really really not so just handed over and somebody's GonNa love it she each he will. He's a nice guy. Deep down we we know he's a nice guy and he wills breaking things happen this this episode man like it and then we have the absolute title match P._B.. smoothie defending champion purses filthy. Tom Lawlor versus. Tim Dons Versus Matthew Justice. WHO's walking out champ? I'm GONNA go last. Let's start with Ed feel like one person in this match has championship or about them and it is filthy. Tom Lawlor. I think this this time I would figure justice has the championship workers. He said champion Eboni like he's not the top champion. Justice has been on a chair and he has a championship kind of bottom like you're sitting but filthy time Tom. It's it's either this or he's one in jail at this year. <hes> he's kind of been on the cusp of a lot of things in the I W he's he's a very big name <hes> he he's been. He's been on his way up and I think it's either here or J.. Lit and then something happens you know from him when in Jalen but I like his odds in the four way <hes> I I don't see I don't see P._B.. Coming out of this as the champion and. I think fearlessly time beats him. I'm not picking filthy. Tom Lawlor that's silly not to I think the winner handed new w absolute champion Tim fucking danced man you have really you've really really turned over on that. I'll know know so I could see him lose again but to lose again in that means he wins it again so like in Tim's is he's fine with it because I mean he's not frigging. What's what's his name from old wrestling everyone who wins? It's GONNA actually lose it so I think Tim Tim's fine with you saying that that the man yeah you really loved him. He now <hes> that's fine. I mean gauge beating. It was like one of my favorite moments that someone else's turn. It was a good match yeah that was you know worked for what they were doing. I don't I personally just don't see him coming back again that quickly to be champ again person. I mean anything can it's. It's going to be a wild match. I we now all right. Let's let's wrap this show up any final thoughts <unk> plugs before we go start with Ed <unk> pod Vandamme SA- podcast cover wrestling twitter Sunday and you can fouls on twitter at Van Damme but I just thought you'd like to Click Our name another link or so in talked about us because you can't search for Padre Davide War Man. That's fucked up dude. Why would they do that US gone? I don't know I'm no I can search you guys just fine. They tried to come up could not search five to be like if you search damn our profile would not come up the worst for me but that's because I art like it comes right up. I typed pot and were the first ones to come up so yeah surprised because I'm already filing have. Would it be emailed. Still you can email us. 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Kane Returns

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Kane Returns

"If you don't know Sirius. XM THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They have it all and right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just US one dollar go to SIRIUSXM DOT com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe offer available to new series Xm streaming subscribers Sirius Xm no car required. This is the busted open podcast. You can listen to the full show Monday through Saturday from nine. Am To noon eastern on Siriusxm Xm channel. One fifty six all the world's strongest man Mark Henry on job the hood on this edition of busted open market rate will talk about what happened in Greensboro. Oh at smackdown Kane made its big return to smackdown unbelievable. I'm me and I enjoyed seeing Kane and Daniel brand back together again can team hell. No and Ray. Why more than he was looking for? Also we got John Morrison and a singles of matchup against biggie. It's going to see more of that. Got There in his element. I think that not only was a good to see him in his element. biggie shine even with a loss is not not something that you will continue to look at so we'll dive into that also. I'm so tired the WWE blaming the fans every time. There's a turn in this company. They blame me as a fast up blaming me. They should be blaming you. But I think you're right in the sense that the blame should be put on somebody in the locker room and we'll talk talk about that on the bus that of also the weekly winner you and I agree on something with the weekly winner at all part of our busted open. podcast right dear chain looks good man I mean is this. Did He find a fountain of Youth and didn't tell everybody I know. I know that comes off that the heels of his interview with Steve Austin and to come out there as a surprise by the way and it seem you know. Here's what's weird. It seem normal to me. You can like Oh here comes caine. It wasn't didn't surprise me. I was just like us good to see him at the scene. Just rolling out there like he always does come to the ring and cuts a hell of a promo. That's exactly what you want it if you're the wwe here's a person that's experienced in the royal rumble. And he gets out there. It gives you an eloquent. Promo tells you how important role rumble is. That's the embodiment of the royal rumble. Because of how many people he's eliminating thrown over over the top rope well and the fact that he's been around such a long time and has had history and people know and they identify battle roles with P. Seeing people like Cain you know he's he's he's been featured in about a rolls he's come out I he's come out in the middle. It's come out at the end. He's been special attraction in about a rolls. He's been the guy that through the most people out at one time like you you name a scenario. And CAIN has been that guy yeah it was just great to see him out there. I want to know what was in his mouth. Did you notice that something we come out of this. I don't know what what that was like. Let's talk about the corner to was out there that he was chomping on But maybe he cut himself shave or something. I don't know what that was but I think the the ultimate thing is to see Kane and Daniel Bryan in the ring together. 'cause eight time you see the female pop up now. You don't know what's going to pop off between the two and the fiend comes out there. Where are we getting a match here then? Here comes Daniel Bryan. All that worked for me. That's what you call an exciting segment. The talking piece the fiend nowhere. It calms Daniel Bryan with the fresh haircut in the French beard. And not only that but you know they have such a lustrous history to go forth and to bring that to right now Is something new for people that didn't watch The attitude era that didn't watch the last ten years wrestling. They've only been watching for one to three or four years Daniel Bryan coming out and him surprising freising the theme like Cain was the setup and it was really really cool to see Daniel with the scissors. I'm tired of being right. I'm just tired of being right. I said a couple of weeks ago I was like day. The only way that you the way you match crazy is what crazy. It is the only defense and for him to be able to come out and get that established while that's GONNA pay. Dividends in the match is really going to pay dividends in the masses you could sell sell sell. Daniel Bryan got himself a hair receipt. You saw that right. I mean he got he got. He got the dreadlocks. He got here receipt community get their baby hair. Yeah he did. He's he's eka lives in bed. I had a friend of mine longtime ago when House in Colorado Springs at the Trade Center. He was from New York in New York. They have this thing where you get into a fight with somebody they wanna Scar Gari the light. So they'll cut your face and he had a cut on his face and I was like damn man like what happened. He was like oh man I was seventeen demand gotten to fight with the dues. Acorn it me. One hit me down. Cut My face and I was like. Oh No I was like. That's kind of how I feel feel when I see the team. I feel like he's trying to scar people trying to leave something. ONUM that is mentally debilitating and Daniel was like. I'M GONNA take it back last night. Light Kane and Daniel devise the plan to scar the theme and I thought it was amazing. It was house and then at the end you see team hell no it popped the crowd and Greensboro always a wary about some of these spots the wwe goes to those traditional territory territory cities as Crockett town right. There used to be crooked town in the territory and that place was full and they were completely into it In Greensboro last night. I enjoyed that that it was the best crowd of the week. This was indeed the best crowd em- pro wrestling of the week and you. We've talked about on Monday nights and On Wednesdays the the crowd at Awa because they're doing nice arenas Anna's and we talk about the crowd at exte- you know it's a smaller crowd and as a crowd that's kind of like in-house crowd they. These same people come every week and they they might bring a friend with him but as for the most part you just the same people and same style a crowd. They know everybody's stick But last night that crowd was live. That was the kind of crowd that I use if if if I was not in verse. Excuse me if I was not in the first match. He and I heard that reaction from the crowd. I started going on. Yeah here we go. I got got one and it was one of those we got one Type crowds what was it for. You is a traditional wrestling territory. So you when you you knew looking at your your itinerary. Where are you going from night tonight when you see Greensboro you immediately think what you think? Well these are true wrestling fans because they've seen it all doesn't matter the listen it a place like Greensboro grandfathers. Were there the fathers of. They're probably the sons there too. It's generational because they've been watching wrestling there since the sixties right right he been back before that with mid Atlantic so so yeah I expected I was wondering like how this crowd respond but it was in full force from top to bottom that. I know that if you're a performer. That's gotTa make you feel good like man. You know what it's hot it's hot start and every match. There's some fans are into it. That's gotTa to inspire the wrestlers in the ring. Oh my God yeah I mean you. We always talk about what goes on reading. We lead the crowd but really the the crowd is the driving factor. You know you work foot audience and the reaction that you get dictates was going to happen next wchs so actually. The crowd is actually leading. The match is not Lou is not the he'll or baby face and the story has been told told. No no no. You're working for the audience. You're working for the reaction and when you get one It leads to Oh that were. We'll wait that they get a load of this and they start pulling stuff out the bag and every wrestler has got that bank thank and really really enjoyed watching people standing almost the entire show I mean they stood the almost that entire show. Yeah I yeah. I enjoyed that. That was that was good television on Fox last night for sure so now because that I Segment we find out after hearing from Daniel Bryan. It's GonNa be a strap match now the strap match challenge between the fiend and Daniel Bryan. It is the scene right. We're not we're not getting nerdy bray are we. We know we're going to get the fame and okay I thought it was. I thought it was entertaining to see Bray Wyatt reference. What was going on and you know sometimes sometimes you you kind of you? You do have to separate them but sometimes you get into Bray Wyatt and you you like the fact that he's Kinda delays between the fiend and himself and crazy is that Senate throttle awesome Matt Love. What is wrong with you crazy too and you gotta have a little bit of crazy crazy in you to enjoy pro wrestling hall? The liaison told. What did you say? The liaison between clean. Break the fan himself at himself. I see okay. Do you have a liaison between you and Mark Henry. No you know I'm straight out there like it's easy to get you get my phone number my email my social media tags and you got me. That's the grace there's no ego. Okay all right I got you all right. It is good to see The firefly funhouse. I think that it adds an element to Bray Wyatt that Very few wrestlers in history of had. You know you you. You'd think about Piper's a pit Miz TV but those don't actually do the same thing as the firefly funhouse house like when that music plays everybody at home everybody an audience. They sit attentively. Wait and see what's is going to be given to them and is like you're sitting there with your hands. Open like palms up like Gimme. GimMe Gimme and worrying wrestling. Flynn have you ever felt that are got that impression. So that's the way you know you're right. It's never been done especially in the modern day. This is something. I'm looking forward to when we worked together before we were talking about Brian and the scene and I said to you that I want this match at Wrestlemania that but the best i. I'm patient enough to wait but I understand that today and I wasn't young enough. 'cause I for those two they don't have to touch until wrestlemainia mania but but I understand that the program that they're in right now and so we're going to see some violence here with the strap match that I'm looking forward to because if it's done well mark it it can be. It can be nasty nasty for both guys. I think it could be. Why who mcdaniels like you know when I when I go back a history and I think about strap matches there was there was men outside of Ooh I I think now why who was the guy I mean Stan Hansen had some strap matches that I saw that I I I was like wow. I don't know if I can get away with that on television division but who he laid the strap on you and you know. I don't know if you remember the strap matches that I had shameless us. Yeah like a lot of that was me going back in history and steadying while who and and and Stan Dan and That was the end result. It will it worked. It was it was a moment history that defines me and shame just like when people think of Mark Henry Shameless they think about that strap match That was the point of that but Daniel can in have that same effect and I think they can even do some of the Stan Hansen stuff. They can do some of the Draping the guy with the strap off the top rope and different things. I mean it's it's so many options. What you can do you just have to study? Yeah you mentioned the Wahoo mcdaniel. So that's that's to an URA fan right in watching Houston wrestling when it came through Beaumont you saw that lawyer right. Yeah Yeah I saw live at the Beaumont Civic Center I I would see see him in. HOUSTON you know. I think I saw him in in deridder Louisiana with my grandmother before Man We we've traveled around and watch wrestling. I True Fan man. That's that's crazy. Yes Oh that if you're looking for that Some of that on Youtube look for the Houston wrestling and you could. Let's see someone that you'll you'll see an old man in the in the corner calling it. His name's Paul Bausch you'll see him there in the corner calling those matches and eloquently giving when you his thoughts on on these crazy bloody matches. That's that's where you wanna go as violent as you can up to the line and the W. W. obviously but that's what you you want because those were classic matches back in the day you're so right about that. Yeah I'm I'm I'M A. I'm a Fan Tema Heart and it always leads me back. Act Two now and I'm sure that the fans will not be so worried about Wrestlemainia wrestlemainia that they can enjoy right now. And I wanted to see where Daniel Bryan can take this because you know like like you know this matches a stipulation match so you know with the strap and everything is not a championship match. If you will is more of the distract match but at Wrestlemainia is going to be built around that title and that is the one that like you said you was excited for. That's what I was looking for. Yes that's what that's what I want. I want that to be a combination of of that. This few coming together. Who's going to win? So I say if Daniel Wind at Royal Rumble okay. Now we're GONNA see WHO's GonNa come out on top looking forward to that because it's because it works it works and I'm invested in it Michael. You're hearing catch busted open. Live Monday through Saturday from nine. Am To noon eastern on Sirius Sirius Xm Channel One fifty six or on demand with the Sirius Xm APP. One of the great promos that we heard these promos and it still matters offers today. Mark in Twenty Twenty K.. Believe it yes. Words speak louder sometimes in the in reaction because it sets up everything. Let's go back to smack down on Fox and hear from Daniel Bryan Bryan said in the whole thing up getting ready for the strap match with The Phoenix coming up at the royal rumble. I challenge the fiend to a strap match at the Royal Rumble. What that means this? He's going to have one end of the strath tied around his head. The other end is going to be tied around my head and we're going to go to war until one wins. I I understand understand that it's dangerous. I understand that he's going to try to whip the flesh off my body. I understand that he's going to try to rip my out of pocket. But I don't care I am done with the mind engaged. I'm done with the running. I'm done with him disappearing down that Damn Hall. Every time I get into trouble the themes he changed me and at the Royal Rumble. I'M GONNA change the feed and win the Universal Championship there. It is. That's all I need right there. I'm ready I've set now. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to see it. But what are we more ready for. Are we ready for the strap match. Are we ready for him being the holder of the universe championship. I think the emphasis is on the strap match and not the title. So until the emphasis is on the title you're not GonNa have my full and undivided attention like right now. I'm excited and I can't wait to see what's going to happen in this mansion. And and what they're gonNA do with the strap but this title the secondary title never mentioned it because they want you to see a fight not not the Roth is not that no. We're actually talking about the the they're setting you up to be able to to fight and to give you the thought in the back of your mind back in Daniel Bryan Beats fien not to be here. Why can't he beat the FINA? Can't beat them in a strap match. Can he do that. Now that gives you even more momentum that feeling man if he beats him in a strap match then he could definitely be universal title. Yeah I'm invested Russell Mania now because of this is just Ju- staircase effect with this but you see that. Daniel is aware aware of the fact that I I've had him as as a couple of times but every time he escapes he gets away but now he won't be able to go nowhere without me wherever he goes I go and that's that's something that's not that the fien hasn't face yet somebody has not worried about the mind. Games does not worried about going down the rabbit hole like Daniel Brands set the tempo for what he feels like is his road to success and that is locking can himself up with the team to where they they can't be part and he took it to him would appear scissors answers and a bad attitude last night. And that's something that the Phoenix hasn't had somebody hunt him and Daniel brand his definitely turned himself in two hundred. Yeah and I like it and I like it a lot and we talked before about when this all first started mark. I'm I'm trying to figure out WHO's the baby face. WHO's the he'll still matters to me in in two thousand twenty? Because you're telling story remember the story I told you. What would Vince Russo? The Dutchman tell that story I told you of its its Russo was trying to figure out e mails dutch-bsaed tell at TNA goes at Albro. I just understand this baby face. And he'll bro- Bro. I don't understand it and you don't understand baby fixing he'll he he. I got a book for you. Oh Book right that'll help me in. What's the book The Bible and he walks away. The still. That's still matters right. It is to be able to understand like who are root for who shall not root for. It's more everything can't be a spectacle everything can't conscience right. Here is a perfect example. Perfect example. What's going to happen tonight? Mark Tonight in a sport but that will be watching that we don't necessarily cover but it's Donald Sironi cowboys running against McGregor. There's a lot of people that can't stand McGregor. I can't I can't stand him right right. We've nation yea but someone but someone is going to be like. I'm ruined for Surani because I need him to beat conor. 'cause I can't Ryan Connor if I don't want us to kind of wants to be in the hill so so investment there since since we're on since we're in this little rabbit hole right here Did you see the press conference. Did you see the way in. I did what did you feel about. CONOR McGregor is on quality control. He's got people around him going. Hey don't go out there. And be and make spectacle of yourself. Don't bring that Conor McGregor mccheese Mo to the stage because you we'll be judged you're still there he's just like Kinda McGregor is just like the USA does right now. They've had trouble. They've done things that they're not proud of speaking of those i. I don't know if kind of gives a damn I think that he's more worried about his business. Failing L. and and people getting off the Conor McGregor bandwagon. Then he is his image. I just feel that way. That's just my feeling the optics say that Conor McGregor is in quality control. He's gotTa fix this. The brand is suffering the the price is on the liquor is down like the UFC realizes that well. Let's get something out of him before it's completely gone own right. That's was going on guys and I want to see how this is GonNa play out because because of the business implications not because I care about what goes on with Conor McGregor He. He's not been a wrestling fan. He said things that was completely out of line specially as it relates to him coming in the locker room and slapping everybody. Because I'm GonNa tell you what. At that time. I was actually in the locker room. I welcome any one hundred and forty pounds or less guy on the planet to coming slapped my face I will tear your skin off and I will hanging in my closet and there's fifty guys in et. Ww Locker Room that will hand him his ass. Just so you know so. Don't think one second that one hundred forty pound dude is going to go in and survive against Braun strowman. I wouldn't put him. I would say that that that Chad Gable would rake him over the Cold Chad Gable have him screaming for his Mama and a golden age. W Some guys over there that can take your face off too. There ain't not one wrestling company. That don't have shooters please. You guys don't get it twisted the. There's a reason that you have weight. Classes is the keep you from getting swallowed whole it. Don't no matter how great a great white shark is. When a blue will enters? They become the king of the ocean. So so. But anyway I digress. I WANNA see how was gonNA play out is Conor McGregor GonNa win and the UFC. Branding continued ago. Our Cowboy GonNa win and they basically say you know what we're done with did you. Because if he if he starts to lose right here the cash cows debt you understand the point though all of being able to invest. Listen to their promo. You just cannot conor McGregor. That's an unlikeable character. Now you're invested because you do WanNa see that veteran saronic able to get a big win because he's really kind of a contender Surani's a good good fighter but he's just there to try to build connor. Actually that's what the ranch up is four but but understand the point like we talk about the fiend and Daniel Bryan. You wanted to have that same investment. Like I don't like the feel because of Bob Blah Blah because of a reason I'm roof Daniel Bryan because I believe Daniel Bryan I believe in his ability. He's been at the mountain top before climbing up again. Trying to be universal champion. That's what I mean. That's the investment. You want you on that unless you have stolen from us as wrestling fans for years. They don't want to admit it but they've stole it for you. If you look at the story CONOR McGregor look look at those press conferences. Look he's is is doing. The same thing is some of the greatest ever to hold microphone. Same thing same thing. Okay if you don't know Sirius. XM THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They had it all a lot of people. Think you need a car to enjoy Sirius. Xm But you don't. 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Watch that but it's it's funny to me that I can see it in my head but it won't come out but we always say that the diarrhea Ricky Bobby. Yeah if you're not I you lass. And that's what this is. You explain about second third or fourth or whatever if you want to but it comes down to who was the weekly winner will Farrell. Yes from wealfare we'll fail different Farrell A whole deliver different Farrell of a whole different kind of family. But I I have my choices by the way by the way as we give our choices. Do you agree with Corey. Graves off from his podcast after the bell. He says that Wrestlemainia should be broken up. Two days dislike new Japan with their Russell Kingdom. You agree with that. You know what I I would be all for it because I've been at the Arena for eleven hours before for you know fourteen Hours for seven hours show is is hard nave you can break it up then you can be at the arena for three and a half hours You know you'll be at the arena for twice that amount but you wouldn't be at the arena for fourteen hours. You beat a six seven seven hours for three hours show you know you have to three hour shows Saturday Sunday that that makes a hell of a lot different and it it makes you a weekend you make you feel like you got more out of your weekend. I think that's I think that's a good idea. And you're talking about double gate. Right is in the same facilities the same bill in the same facility. I mean it would be hard. I don't I don't know if you'll be able to sell doubled the You know eighty thousand tickets but maybe you can. And if that's the case then the profit margin is was increase and you just basically have to clean up and started all over again. I actually liked that idea because of what I saw from New Japan. I watched Russell Kingdom and I'm not necessarily like this over the top new Japan guy but I know is their signature tent pole event so I wanted to see what it's going to be like first of all I'm interested in the Guy Jing's I wanna see what Moxley looks like. I WanNa see what With fit Finlay son looks like In so many others. That's on that on that. That card edge Chris Jericho of course but then just to see Okada in the in the ring to C. lighter toward the end in his retirement match. I was interested in that but I I was never tired tired of it because he was brought up in two days so I had to be able to kind of digest instead of watching the whole eight or nine hour event. So you look at you. Look at Bush's like all of the all of those matches I never got tired because you know while I was tired. Initially actually the first thirty minutes. Because I woke up at one o'clock in the morning I woke up at twelve forty five. Oh boy time I brush my teeth and got a bowl of cereal And I stayed up until after Our show on Saturdays starting at eight o'clock doc. Texas time central time and finishing at eleven so I didn't go to sleep until noon so man it was. It was a sixteen hours of being awake with pretty rough. Yeah I liked that breakup so that that's something that Corey graves talked about so as far as the the show for me it is an exte- UK that's my show of the week. And that's because because there's your curveball. There and here's what Annex T U You K.. If you just like your Raslan mark if you like you just your your your basic Bacon and eggs of wrassling and promos and wrassling and Promos promos you get that Inex- to U K and as an old school wrestling fan. That's all I really need. I Dunno sale. Need PYRO and Ballyhoo. I'm necessarily have to have a lot of fireworks and Gaga now my wrestling all the time I just get the bread and butter the the basics from exte- those young men and women work so so hard and Vaulter to see him as United Kingdom. Champion watching vaulter go at. It reminds me of the old films. Now there are starting to surface of a young Andrei Not Andrei in the eighties. That Andre in the seventies but like spry Andrei when he can move bump and fee do a lot of different. The things I in the Ring Walter reminds me of that in a lot of different ways unique character and yes what any didn't gotta be. Pretty people are wondering about Walter Alter because of his size. It ought to be pretty that guy when he chops you. That's for real. You don't need the big show is going to resonate throughout the arena. You're gonNA hear that shot. Because because he gets it all it ain't never seventy percent or eighty percent. When Walter gets you gets you know mark? You had to tell me whether or not you think Walter is just like a tough guy knows that. He's a terrific performer in the ring and I just think that NFC UK a must watch for me every week. But I just think coming off off of that Blackpool show they had that Pay Per view that they had it was very very solid. I agree To in extent when it came to pro wrestling This was a really really good week and as you started off with talking about in T- UK great show great great show The most entertaining show was smackdown yesterday. I I would have to say that smackdown was the most entertaining show of the week but when it boils down to the best wrestling show of the week I would have to go to annex t annex T had unbelievable matches I was Set I sat on my couch with my jaw agape because of the complexity in the tags six and the finish of having Bianca Bel air go over and the The the women's bout a raw raw gave me a little bit of what the look forward to for Sunday next week and I would have to give the nod to xt. And then I'll give a close second to the entertainment value of smackdown Awa You and yeah I'd have to say aws connects UK was a draw and extend a number one. So you know what you and I agree is just different sides of the pond. Did you see. Did you see the match between Tyler. Breeze Leo Rush. And Scott's yeah it's worth Scott. Oh my God first of all there's too much swagger in that in that match alone three those three guys it was. It came down with his cheese mall. Lydia me. Yeah swerves got my piece. I was sucking my teeth. There was so much sugar. uh-huh Leo res- came down with his arrogance and look at me. I'm show you cats man. Listen isn't that match was unbelievable and then you follow it up and then you have the match with Webster Bro. Yeah then match was so alive I mean it was so live and then you know like I'm a fan of the Bruce Away Right. Yup and I love Pedone and Pedone and Matt Riddle. They look like a season tag team. See how that works is two guys that can work together and look you can put them with anybody. Yeah but they they know wrestling and they were just good that that that match was I mean it was complicated to they. Did a bunch of really really complicated stuff and then they hooked you in the beginning. They said let me show show you what time it is and they brought keithly in there and then Keith Lee is like listen man I listen whatever it is it is what it is. If y'all want some come get Assam. And they went at it and they put the edge on him of course he they had him get beat down but then you had daddy's home. Oh man well you you you bring out one star after other like that show was so layered and all of this was not the main event right in the main event the women killed it and there's a lot of times you see battle role you see people just laying around and they sitting in a corner and somebody's trying to throw him out over the top and then they fall back in man that match was action the whole time and there were a lot a lot of implications between the women of maybe. I'll get what you next time. Maybe I'll right now. Let's finish what we have some unfinished business. And then you had everybody down at one point and then you have Martinez and and you had the former champion campion who I think is as good as any female wrestler in the world. I mean you you you you you you sit there and you you put her in front of Becky Lynch and she makes becky Lynch look like okay. We're even yeah and I. I mean it was just so full of of life and and so so many good options that I had to give them number one they were my weekly the winner. And if you're not firs you less your less. I liked the annex t that first of all there was so how much it is so much a swag inist that was just permeating off my TV. When you have swerved Scott and Tyler Breeze Leo rush on in the ring at the same time I mean it just coming out is oh my God like Oh swag is titled tweeted this out when I was watching that match? I'm like there's gotta be some wear some independent somewhere that swerve Scott and Leo rush hats. Wrestle right I need to see which I I want to see that match. That's what I mean after watching that match. I'm like I need to see these two. Because they're both have the same percent of both you know cocky and they believe that the baddest thing in the yard and all that but it's like I didn't see these to wrestle. That's the thing that came out to me. The other thing is you mentioned those matches and so this this is another reason. Why an X T K fan and I appreciate that brand? Because I've seen these guys a ton on that. UK side. So when I see Flash Morgan Webster Webster and when I see you know when I watching that when I'm watching the grizzled young veterans I know what they can do so now as Gallus coming in there so then I know what they can do so then when they come to full sail. It's like okay. Let's see how they're going to be able to work. That's why I'm as excited about when rules collide as I am the royal rumble causes. Is this the clash of styles. And so I think that that's that's fun that's what is does the classic is very good. Yeah Man Listen Webster's is going to be somebody special But the one thing that that show missed and if if if the world was perfect I would've loved to have a healthy velveteen dream in that match. And if you add a velveteen dream two the make that a four way between tyler breeze. Oh my Gosh Scott and Leo brother brought it. It would be very hard of any brand of wrestling on television to compete with them. That's how that's how good uh that could have been hold on. Hold on hold on now. He break up shirts pants. Yeah Did oh well sometime against hot and Atkin business just wound. Do you gotta break out. Turns Fan is right in your FAV- Steve Make you risk limbaugh. You gotTA swing it from right to left somebody. Somebody's I just just put tuning in the pool. Pit Right there you go that twenty right there for man. We'll ask me anything else. That collection played around. No no no you just get the twenty. I just went up. I ain't coming back up there so you just take that twenty pull it but in your pocket. ooh imagine all so bad way crazy. Oh that'd been the swaggie match of all time. Hey you didn't mention a list on my shortlist here matches like I'll enjoy smackdown last night. Enjoy the hell that because of the style of Greensborough you didn't mention that's all my list. The end of UA. I would have loved to see you see. This is why I go back and watch you in Memphis. I know you don't want me to see that. But but but but you were but you were part of that kind of arena. TV studio a crowd. That's how you start. It would lawler Zohar so you would. You would be great on power. The Mark Henry on power. Olma you looking at the TV telling how you GONNA crush people all my God. Give me when I'm talking to you when Arab strongest man speaks you this you hell I love I love the TV arenas and I mean even Ohio valley wrestling wrestling. You can go on and look up the all Ohio Valley Wrestling Archive me wrestling Cena and Batista and Brock and Shelton Benjamin Before BJ pain guys before they were famous. Randy Orton I see 'em punk. I mean the the list goes on. Its own how valley wrestling was good for me and in my development and it put me into another decade of wrestler. Like I I mean I been wrestling for a long time before I got to that group of guys and I've wrestled with those guys for twenty years. Yeah I I would love to see you. So what's been watching that closely too because Marty skirl now is heavily of all all would ring of honor as As a talent and also as a writer but you can see that there's a relationship there between ro H. and Nwea and the power show so the struggle old between what's going on with ring of honor and Nwea starting to come to the surface here and so I've been joining that. And also there's veterans ends and young talent on that roster's wells and people wear them seeing the while Scott Steiner's on that show now so I've watched that this past week really good. Good stuff yeah. I'm not not discrediting their show. Because I I really enjoy it and You know Aaron is a brother of mine uh and I have to watch and check him out And you know Dave lagunas is you know. I've not profess my love for him but like you know. He wanted to people that I respect and love in his business because he loves the business like I do and is willing to sacrifice for pro wrestling and I I'm not I don't know billy Corgan very well. I've met him a couple of times TMZ but I wouldn't say that we were friends but I love the fact that he loves progressing and I respect that and they get the real world champion there you know the the the real world champion. Yeah they called us. Nicole's they call the says he's a real world champion and he and he is hard to argue. It's hard to argue that his title is is probably the oldest yeah. This is the most highly regarded as got more Superstars have held that title than any of your hearing. Catch busted open. Live Monday Monday through Saturday from nine. AM to noon eastern on Sirius. XM Fight Nation Channel One fifty six or on demand with the Sirius. Xm App Morrison definitely am matured and He looks like he loves like a bona fide player and I was so happy to see him. Come back I didn't like the way he came back but They made up for with the interview. Oh Ms TV and with his day beautiful debut match against re debut if there's a word With biggie and the crowd. When he came out I mean they always erupt? When you hear a new day coming to rain but you could tell that the crowd was like it's been a while since big e win against legit guy and that's exactly what we got we? We got legit guy match on both sides. John Morrison and Biggie Had One of the better matches that I've seen on smackdown MAG- down in a few weeks passed. That was really really good match. WanNa see more biggie Solo. I do and now on me I was talking about. I WANNA see more biggie. Because I know that he's gets up in the give he's always tied to a tag team so we only see half of what he can do. That was a good match. Watch for big. He didn't hurt biggie at all because the email with that with that loss yesterday it makes you want to see more and more so than just watching him from one is his time with the. WWe watching him at impact wrestling Lucia. Underground you start. You continue to see the development of John Morrison the character got it. He has a voice. But here's what I did not like. Is this the same old thing that w loves the hanging themselves with and that is well. Let's see so. How can we turn MS back? As as he'll well he always was a he'll use trying. They tried him as a baby face and it was kind of. I think it was mild at best out think everybody bought the MS as good guy but when the wwe do well let's see. Let's see who. How can we talk you? We spend this alt-right we'll blame the fans every time you look at for an outlet to try to change the body. It's because the fans Bailey change because the fans this this person changes because of the fans. That's always that they hang. They hang themselves with you know if we can find a way to blame someone for the change. Let's blame the fans since blade. BLAME THE FANS FOR MS turning a blind eye to the fans now. They'll they'll blame the fans hands. You decide what then seemed like it didn't seem like it was MS blamed fans it. Was John Morrison. That was blaming the fans because they didn't have any compassion for ms like he did which it brings it back on him. And I I look at edit completely different like I mean ms was not the one that was like hey ms apologized right at right before that segment ms came out and that was like listen I was in my own feelings. I you know I was worried about me. I I came out. I did this. I'm sorry in his words words. I'm sorry and John's No. Don't apologize to them. They don't know you they don't respect what you've done and this and you have family that would miss so the heat was on John Morrison and and rightfully so i. I enjoyed the fact that John Morrison was like taking up for his friend. But just like Bailey and Sasha blindly taken up for each other it. Don't make you right deep because you side with your friend. It just means you're a good friend. Stop blaming me. That's the thing every time I turn blame me. How blended Mann Blaine is lazy? Lazy Lazy is Lazy. Easy you you. You can't keep blaming the fans every time you WANNA turn somebody that's all you got back there in the back. If blamed the fans the only option option was the blame the WWE and they wanna they didn't want to get the the wwe. Would that would make him a baby face. It will make a baby face if if Moore's came out and say you know what guys I got to get this off my chest. The reason that I left was because of the wwe it wouldn't because of you you guys. I've always worked hard for the fans I wanted to do. Good for the fans but the WWE didn't look at me as a major player. They didn't think that my talent talent was good enough. They thought that there were other people that would best serve you. Well here I am. I'm back to save the day so I guess they were wrong now. You created a baby face because the crowd is GonNa go. Yeah uh you tell them John and that's not what they wanted out of him. You know I can understand I. Well I mean what what the option was that. Come back come back and blame MS or blame another wrestler there for taking a spot that you go taking their opportunity. That's that's that's the only other option there you go mark but see that's what you just said. There was better than six months of writing right there because not all of it is about us every time you turn. Somebody's because that's like Sasha's mad so there's you blade a fans value Bailey turned because the fans now but blame somebody in the locker room. How about that? So someone in the not even management someone in the locker room. That's that makes more sense to me. All these turns can't be because of me all I. It's my fault all I guess it's my fault. I keep messing up as a fan on me. I'm so sorry. Kamal man come on. I guess we we have our opinions. I mean it does seem a little odd that the fan is getting the heat rather it in somebody that you actually going to get in a ring with. I don't see the point. I can see the point. The point one has been made I get it. The Fan versus John Morrison is that was just. The Fan is going to sound. It's like it's like it's Shawn Michaels team with God to take on the McMahon. This this blamed just this this this whole person. You can't see this. The fans in general blamed blamed. WWe universe if all else fails blame us for the turn. Come on man. Ms Has Always Been A. He'll that we talk about square pegs around holes in the WWe right. They tried with the MS but ms I'll give him credit. I'll give them this much credit. There was some baby face fire from the MS but but the disconnect was when he takes on Bray Wyatt. If if someone comes in your house and tries to attack your family you wrestle him like you wrestling regular match in Manchester New Hampshire. You're going to try to beat his aunts. Come down to the ring where the dam Red Robot on those a those a lot of disconnect this connect with When Ms Russell the thing bring a fight mark you try to kill that dude in so in Solna Sonja parking lot right right? That's GONNA fight all the way to the ring right right. That's a fight. They let you. You'RE GONNA try to to mess through my family and my children. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA fight. We're GONNA GO AFTER WE'RE NOT GONNA. I'M NOT GONNA do the wrong room. That can wear my my robe. Just wait for it to come down to ringside. That's not gotta fight so I just you know listen I I've seen baby faces do dumb things in made in May seem like they're not very smart. That just wasn't very smart so the best thing was for him to be with Morrison works for me because that's who he is Now right again so me you sold me there you go stop. I was disagreeing and you argue your point sir. Had did you ever think about that. Gatien thanks for listening catches Monday through Saturday and busted open from nine nine A._M. to noon eastern on Sirius X._M.. By Nation Channel One fifty six busted open podcast.

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A Very Fiendish Cheap Heat

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A Very Fiendish Cheap Heat

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Every single mom i love wrestling given up the podcast aldo doubling down and the other one you bring on whoo welcome to the what only one way to start this week ladies and gentlemen yeah all right i mean that was probably the high of the week welcome to do what that's right says fiend morris the true true debut of the fiend bray wyatt and that's what it felt like it summer slam this week it felt like the actual real beginning of the fiend because as cool as the firefly funhouse had been excuse me and as you them and we'd seen him before this was different this would happen at summer. Slam was something very very cool and naturally shed to everyone came out to legends stack. Guy greg was in the building l. a. delicious chicken and by the way speaking of liking delicious chicken can stack. I greg not only ordered a an order of delicious chicken at some point. I saw him order another order of delicious chicken. I'd never seen this before l. delicious chicken. I know that traditionally you know some wings as an appetizer got the wings as an appetizer and then i main course he also shared more wings so he lives the gimmick twenty four seven but shout out to everyone who was there and came out on and i did notice right away. You know this very typical attitude that we all. We often tend to have as w._w._e. Fans and that is this. This is awesome. I wonder how they're going to screw it up now. Listen i'm not saying it's not reasonable to have that opinion. You guys know welcome. Did they shoot arrow baby side just one but at the same time you don't want to completely louis <hes> ruin everything that happens because all you're doing is thinking about. How are they going to mess this up next so the fiend was very very cool. I do see it being hard to keep it that cool because i think the more you see it's just one of those things that inherently gets less cool. I don't think there's a real way to avoid that ba. Listen i mean the undertaker's entrance stayed hot forever so maybe this is magic and it stays that way for a very long time kickoff show i mean guys i only had the kickoff show on in legends it. It was up on the t._v. So i didn't really pay attention and one thing i'm not going to do. Is you know bashed the kickoff. Show now that. I no longer do it but i will tell you. It looks messier. There's there's something ma- messier about the kickoff show. It's it's it feels all over the place and maybe it is literally that i missed myself on. It and i'm like oh i i brought something to at that gave it some something even consistent broadcaster professional. All those things are true. I don't think it's just that but i'm sorry there's something i i don't understand why they have coach and charlie co hosting it. There's no format in the world of pre shows halftime shows po shows in which they do to hosts and then panelists. It just doesn't make sense so <hes> but i didn't really hear anything just from how it appears to me watching it. I only heard a little little bit of it. <hes> we we saw the drew dulack match <hes> got. We expected there <hes> buddy murphy by d. Q. and bliss cross <hes> alexa bliss nikki cross all all <hes> win on the kickoff show baba so we jump right into it you get <hes> becky lynch and italia. No big surprise becky lynch gets the win. That's not the most important thing that ends up happening with an italian this week. <hes> the match was fine. <hes> it was cool. It was good it was about what you'd expect <hes> goldberg and dolph i i didn't understand i am sure there's a logic to why they had dolf call haul out goldberg and then goldberg comeback after the match and beat them more <hes> that's fine. I you know this served. Its purpose just like i've said many times on this podcast. If you wanna make goldberg or <hes> undertaker look good the way to do it. Put him in with adult ziegler they will. I've met was effective that worked in that regard. Was it now if i'm sitting there in the crowd excited by the first two matches no not particularly. Maybe enjoy the goldberg match but no this. This is an great exciting start <hes> a._j. Styles and ricochet good stuff that you would expect <hes> from those guys we will get more to the osce later <hes> because obviously there are big part of that story and i have some mail about that still. I really do hate the name the o._c. It's just i just don't think i can forget about the show the o._c. I just don't think i can anthony you're listening to a podcast or no. Oh yes anthony our producer. Today is actually a huge w._w._e. Fan so i'll bring him in anthony. What are your thoughts on the the name the o._c. And it's gonna give you a second to adjuster microphones to pot up. There doesn't go over the air. That'd be embarrassing but anthony always something interesting to say about wrestling when i see him every. Let's get your thoughts on the aussie yeah what the name the o._c. Now you're a young how old are you. I'm twenty five so you probably that i know the show but so does that's what i think of automatically when i think the that's what i think of so you're twenty five. I'm forty. We both here the o._c. Think t._v. show. I'm thinking we're gonna cut to something else. We're not gonna go to wrestling and certainly not tough guys. That's not what you picture. No that is not what i would even if you were to picture dudes from the o._c. The last thing you picture gallows and anderson i mean they don't look like they'd fit fit in the o._c. They wouldn't date any of the girls on the <hes>. Are you enjoying join the o._c. Or join me the the club being reenergized outside of the name. I love the fact that that it's coming back because that's probably why they were there strongest strongest at any point in their wrestling careers and took w w a little too long to figure that out but here we are you have to call and i think a big part of that is the fact that <hes> they got scared that the club would have been the perfect people to leave for a w. so knocking to let that happen so we're gonna lock you in. We're gonna come up with something that really pushes you and and that's cool but the name the o._c. Is just i'll tell you what it's it's. It's tough for me to to deal with. There's there's no way around it. <hes> bailey an amber moon. I mean it's mattress. Had i'm not going to spend time on it. <hes> they both were fine but it just it came out of nowhere. <hes> bailey ends up getting the win and again ember. Maybe has a more meaningful the match on smackdown this week shane mcmahon verse k._o. Kevin owens gets the ring. Ally alah gets the win. Elias involved cool. I'm good with that. Here's where i start really enjoying things <hes> probably from at this point on i really enjoyed charlotte verse trish stratus the stratus faction she hit you could tell you could see her age on that <hes> and that she's not working a lot but in general you could tell charlotte is the kind of person who puts a lot of <hes> attention in to all the tail and you could see that in this match. I really thought they did a nice job. <hes> charlotte gets the win with her finish with her submission. <hes> that's the right way to do it. The the figure eight is the way to go to end it. Trish gets her ovation. She walks off into that good night. She does it at home in toronto. I think it was just done the right way. <hes> so <hes> you know there were moments. That weren't perfect. I'm not gonna analyze every single move throughout it. We know we knew that was bound to happen. You have someone who's not not working regularly against someone who's basically from a different generation of wrestlers altogether that being said they made it work pretty well and i think you give charlotte a lot of credit trish to you know for staying in generally good shape in in pretty decent shape but charlotte deserves a lot of credit for that match and i enjoyed it <hes> kofi and randy orton what i like about this is advancing the double count out came out of nowhere and it was so ridiculously really fast i did not even i was looking around. Everyone who i was looking around going what happened. No one seemed to understand and what happened with randy and kofi and macha did thank you paul. Peter roosevelt and i guess thanks to him too so but i do like that. They extend the story. I like that a it changes kofi character by him losing it because of orden and it's interesting right we talked about out on this. Show is specifically said the way to handle this story. Shoot arrow baby is to have randy getting involved with kofi family. They've been using using kofi family more and more if you watch the twenty four there but everywhere randy should provoked kofi through his family family and i thought they could do that leading up. They could still do more of it but i thought that was the way to do it. They ended up doing it. During the match as a result kofi loses his mind gets a double count out keeps the title and we now know we will see more between randy orton and kofi kingston. <hes> and i think that's the right thing. <hes> if you're gonna put these guys together tell story things have to start meaning something for randy orton during this stretch of his career they just do. He's too damn good. Did you guys know how i feel about. Two thousand five randy orton do not ruin it for two thousand five randy orton especially considering. Its been half that year on the shelf after we're having surgery so i really really <hes> i like that. This is going to keep going and it's okay summer. Slams not wrestlemainia. That's cl- clear not just from this card really if you go back and look at all the cards i mean i think the question i ask you guys is is summer slam wrestlemainia ajay's chase or wrestlemainia jas esque 'cause is sort of it's wrestlemainia jas esque it it does not feel close to wrestlemainia wrestlemainia and maybe that's just the difference between arena and stadium but it doesn't feel close adult so i enjoy away the story line being further with these two and then of course we get everyone's favorite so not only has the rock bottom. I mean the stone cold stunner been stolen by kevin owens but now the mandible claw from the fiend he really is the feeling is not stealing people's moves right and left the only one the only person scarier is the fiend morris. I was so happy oh. I'm sorry i see uh-huh welcome to the what so everyone loves this <hes> <hes> it's creepy. It's weird. It's unique the lantern the lantern with his face on it in his mouth open. It was terrifying. It's just well done. It's just well done. It's it's kind of right now. What separates w._w._e. And you go wow. This is a higher level product product. It really is that good brock listener seth rollins a clean win. Four seth rollins super kick curb stomp took a couple of curb stomps. He wins the title back clean in the middle of the ring overbrook listener listen. If you're gonna do that. I like that. He just gets a nice clean lean win for. We're gonna move on from this. Give seth rollins. Let him have that and if you're wondering why i'm not talking takeover to the haven't watched it yet but i will watch this weekend and we can talk about it when estrogen back from vacation next week. I didn't even mention that shoutout u. S. g. g. and his valet l._a. They are <hes> in europe this week. He's a traveling man as you jay okay. Oh my goodness so thanks. Thanks for nothing shack s._g._i. I'm sure he's having a great time and he brought me some delicious cookies from his fiancee lake delicious chicken so i want to say thank you for that. They were delightful. Oh my god i greg attempted to give me the cookies and kept him the kept them with him all night. So at the end of the pay per view him and i left <hes> just before the last match. We watch the main event at home because it was getting late. I work early in the morning. Greg had to go uptown because he's uptown malcolm. I had to go back up towns. We watched the final match there and he's like oh. I've been saving the cookies all night here you go and the the the chocolate cookies that he'd saved for me had literally been crumbled into dust. It looked like a bag of dirt so he felt guilty he didn't want to do. He didn't wanna make the valley look bad so then he dipped. Somehow greg had a stash of baked goods which means by the way if you're keeping track at home he kept his stash of baked goods on him for the entire summer some event which is incredible when you think about it he was hanging out which is a stash of a baked goods because he replaced my chocolate dirt with new cookies at the end of the night so anyways thank you to s g g in the valais <hes> it is it is appreciated needed so we win. Greg comes back next week from vacation. Which is right before i go on vacation <hes> so i'll probably be taking off that week the last week of august <hes> we will we will break down <hes> <hes> takeover so seth rollins raw this week. Obviously seth rollins your new champion but let's get to some of the things we need to talk about. How about first of all king of the ring is back. Apparently currently king of the ring the is has arbitrarily come back again of all the things that go away and come back and w._w._e. None unav- it may be as random as king of the ring it is so all over the place when it comes when it goes news and who they even decide to put it from raw the miz ricochet cedric alexander under samoa joe drew mcintyre baron corbin sammy's zane cesareo kevin owens ali apollo crews chad gable elias andrade. Hey buddy murphy and shelton benjamin buddy murphy of course coming off a big big. <hes> match with roman reigns on smackdown <hes> well listen. You guys probably i when i look at these names off top. The first thing that pops in my head is drew mcintyre. I think think about who looks good as catherine who makes sense to be king of the ring and have the sceptre and the eh robe. You know who is the right person. They've done king of the ring it so random. I one was ninety three. They did ninety three ninety four ninety five ninety six ninety seven ninety eight ninety nine two thousand two thousand one two thousand to two thousand fifteen. Okay i see so random. I see okay <hes> and bad news barrett. You're king king of the ring champion very very interesting how random the history of it is but when you think about the people who have been involved evolved in the the finals <hes> big names and the people who carried it big although hold on the the way they're listing. These events is not even right not no no. That's the pay per view king of the ring. Let's see how do you find the right version. Cambering is a w._w. This article is about the events series for the tournament itself. See king of the ring tournament <hes> ha apologize so i skipped a bunch in there but it's still random on the list <hes> <hes> that was about the pay per view eighty-five don morocco. Don't even remember that existing of course as we all remember harley race. Becoming the king of wrestling is eighty six savage eighty seven db osce eighty-eight. He santana eighty nine brett see now it now it starts skipping around brett in ninety one and ninety three owen in ninety four mabel in ninety five by the way in watching two thousand five. I've been watching a lot of viscera. I'll just tell you this. Whatever name you wanna use for him he. He was underrated athletic. When we talk about athletic big man i just have to say not considering how ridiculously huge that dude was god rest. His soul passed away back in twenty fourteen but man he was super <music> athl- athletic considering he was gye enormous six foot nine four hundred fifty sixty seventy bundy eighty pounds anyways mabel ninety five stone cold steve austin ninety six triple h ninety seven shamrock ninety eight billy gunn ninety nine. That's that's weird two thousand kurt angle two thousand one edge and it's interesting if you look at king of the ring early on and by the way let's not count the early on you really it means something different once you get to the mid nineties although they really harley race thing ran for a very long time it was a big deal and of course you know macho king was clearly clearly thing it becomes more meaningful when you get to the to me it's around owen brett brett they show brett's allotted had meaning to but brett was already module by that point brett's already a world champion contender in between ninety one and ninety three so i think owen in ninety four is the beginning of king of the ring being super impactful owen hart over razor ramon mabel over salvia vega <hes> stone cold steve austin over jake roberts roberts parts of course we know what that means triple h over mankind shamrock over the rock billy gone over x pac which which is sort of feels like the outlier kurt angle over a kishi edge over kurt angle brock leser over rob van dam then then jumps from two thousand to two thousand six and that's where we get king booker t. over bobby lashley william a._m. Regal over punk in two thousand eight so it's every two years there but then we get the two thousand ten shameless over john morrison they <hes> and there's a gap from two thousand intend to two thousand fifteen and bad news barrett over neville and now here we are in twenty nineteen so be very very interesting to see what they make of this and how much you can make it means something especially in an era in which they're already a joleon titles. 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Why is it a fiendish day. You're gonna get an redoing depressing towers than i'm having problems with the lawrence my contractor. He's a fiend contractor. That's a shame because i <hes> i went to dunkin donuts earlier and had the the the fiend kuwata the sense i went to my i just went to the coffee section of my kitchen in my office and all the coffee dispensers were called so i'm drinking coffee right. Oh my god is a fiend world. We live in right now. I would say it's a pretty scene world. I after he didn't answer the first time i called your your your office line so we can get the whole professional rational dipper steam phone answering experience but you but you but you called back and ruined. Don't worry about it next time so needless to say i've already gone through summer. Slam needless to say you were very pleased with wide. I've been listening to the song i downloaded the i downloaded the song and i've been listening to it in my car which is amazing because that happened with me. The first time bray was made to. I loved his first song. No your phone line. You fiend phone line right now. No fee being dipper strikes again what i really wanna get <hes> fiend duberstein's feedback on is king of the ring and the arbitrariness of coming back and if this can be something made so. I'm excited though that there's at least there's something on right. You know what the problem is though when they do tournaments like this one night this is gonna make me ed fiend rosenberg. It's it's too much wrestling. It's too much wrestling one night fiend facetime <hes> everything is fine right now so i was just discussing the king of the ring coming back the the random. I figured figured you'd find it to be fiend king of the ring. Are you disgusted by how randomness yes of course. There's no reason ford. It's a way to fill up weeks of television for no reason. It's nothing if you wanna do a king of the ring i i don't. I don't hate the idea of doing it as a pay per view but it can't be the same eight people that we see wrestling every week do it with different people. I mean it was buddy murphy in it right yeah. I like putting murphy. That's good that's fine. I'll lee but it should be like the buddy murphy's ali's i will. I are in it. It's it's it's nothing what is it it just matches will well. The main eventers aren't in it. It's made enters. No doubt it's just read it will read it again. At the main of energies okay <hes> <hes> it's the ms ricochet cedric vendor metric is acceptable ricochets not a main event or he's made of energize bordering better. He's never made a well. He's made invented a raw nerve cedric alexander. Samoa joe drew drew mcintyre. No he's not. He doesn't even win matches. The man doesn't people i understand but these are the people that are in that made events lebron's coun- so it's like whatever we're arguing about nothing but i'm just saying it's yes if they were to give a shot to a little bit if they were to discredit a spread the love around a little bit. I don't know yeah well they. They they are they they are. There is still a lot of that. That's not actually my argument for because you still have. You still have sammy zane <hes> s- azzaro k._o. Ali ali apollo crews chad gable elias andrade buddy murphy shelton benjamin so those are names like you're looking for the second half sort of the smack down the smackdown guys lee <hes>. I think it's a good spot for elias who who barely gets to wrestle <hes> shelton benjamin i think is perfect perfect. He does basically nothing same with chad label. Yeah i know you're being something benyamin mark i get all. I think i'll eat winds. That's my that's my prediction. I thought i think i'll lee or buddy. Murphy is a very smart prediction right now and and and i don't think the attitude may be that buddy murphy doesn't need it as much he just had that huge match with roman reigns last week so i i like ali. I've met a solid solid call for what could happen of course for me. Anna i have not completely given up on drew mcintyre yet so <hes> from a picturing the person with the robe and the and the sceptre i liked drew mcintyre getting that i agree. I agree but i will say king. Allie makes a lot of sense and you know whoever wins they're going to they're going to do. I think they're what my what my guess would be is that whoever wins will do. It's will be the key to the king but here's the problem with the here's the problem though ali he'll but i it because the king thing only works with heels. I know it doesn't you can't be a good guy. Who's like i'm the king look at me. I'm king bret hart. It doesn't make any sense. You look a goofball. You will get a goofball wearing a crown whereas if very he'll taking yourself seriously it makes sense. I think thank you drew mcintyre. Prediction is probably the best version of this because the the chances of ali winning and then turning heel like as a result of or join ring is like very low. You know what i mean. I don't think these days they can even see someone on at ollie's size being a he'll. I don't think they know how to do it. I don't think they seem interested in doing it. You know smart. Neville neville was so good is a he'll. He was meant to be he'll and just never felt like they were particularly interested in. It looks like a gargoyles. He's the nevels a terrifying individ- confirmed. I mean then you should be made of stone and put on the side of oh my god for the record if someone turned into a real life guard while he was made us down. How much would you spend on him for depressing towers. He's worth at least three or four thousand. Where would you put it. Where would you put the gargoyles. Nevin your house on top of the the attached to the wall on top of the front door. Oh my god so right when you show up to the house the gargoyles novel we got. It's been a long time living living right in the home of bean dip in it would be madge seem to percents spin out there recently. I'll tell you that right now. So what else how. How did you generally feel about summers limb. I enjoyed the show. I just feel like there is storytelling again. Whether it's the the the themed whether it's the the roman reigns daniel bryan thing. It feels like there's reasons to watch. They're leaving on with cliffhangers. They're they're telling stories. He's <unk>. It's starting to matter a little bit more. I don't know if it's a result of the of the bischoff in the hemant or whatever i think it probably is but it i'm starting to like to watch again next week. Oh i will like <unk>. Please tell me i wanna know what happens with brian. Ramin rates. There's so much speculation online that it was daniel brand baltimore responsible and probably that's exactly what it is and he'll just say i'll call up and say it was him but maybe it's not maybe maybe the internet has overblown at this such a degree that they want to give the fans a swerve or give the fans something who knows but the fact that there's any kinda speculation and there's a reason to watch find out is more than we've seen in years on the show so i'm excited to to watch next week to see what's ads well. I am also excited to watch next week to see the follow up <hes> to sasha bank's return. Yes there's another. There's another thing finally sasha banks comes back. Everyone was interested to know and that was going to happen. It happened. She rips off the which is different hair. She attacks the baby eighty face. She turns you. There's this is something there's something going on. There's something going on. Believe me if me now now in the case of sasha asha too old school tropes different hair do that stuff. They did it back in the day for a reason. It makes sense <hes>. Can i tell you one little problem. I have that drives me crazy about about commentary in this era. Sasha turns he'll cory. Cory should then change his mind and like her. He shouldn't continue to say he hates her. I noticed that i i told you she's the worst she's blah. Blah blah aw corey hat leans he'll. There's no avoiding it. He leans he'll. It's like it's like the number. One priority is no matter what still having cory berry sasha in some way and i'm not saying that's corey's decision or someone else's decision. I truly have no idea but corrie knows right from wrong and knows that that's the right. I think he's probably being told to do otherwise. It just seems to me the second you're being a heel and you're talking about how much you don't like sasha oshii stealing the spotlight here. She comes ruining ruining nazis. Blah blah blah boom the second. She turns on natty it should be. I've always liked sasha banks. I've always told you she's great. You never understood. I was saying you're you're he'll. You're always right. It doesn't matter this is this is what i was waiting for. She's never been able to make up up our mind. This is the real sasha banks. I i don't understand why they can't commit on commentary to people being heels or baby faces. What's so wrong with well. I'll tell you the other massive mistake is that she shouldn't have gone after becky. Lynn should've called after valley. You know get a little bit more dramatic. Okay she after rebecca becky lynch but she should will bailey. Bailey wasn't on raw. This week premiered in fact. I know they take they take. The different brands very very seriously. You're on one brand. You can't get anywhere near the other no way don't you agree though it should have been really that she attacked and then it would have been even more dramatic. She attacked becky lynch of course the they wanted to set up a metric but like i would much rather see sasha banks versus bailey. A blood feud that i would see one off. There's is no story between sasha betcha. That's wants to title t. again. The i like the fact they brought sasha back in turner he'll but they still don't go all the way with the story. Line shows like to give them a reason to hate each other just that she wants to title. That's not a reason that's not a story. How about how about the moment i agree with you. <hes> i wonder whether if that was barely there would have been so obvious because they've done it before and we it never got finished <hes> although it almost felt a little obvious. It wasn't obvious it was still very very good but her coming out to interrupt italia was so he'll ish that it did make me think who interrupts someone when they're giving a tribute to their father other away it gave it away a little bit like there's no way you could have your music hit and come out dan doing your little dance when you when your friend and is honoring her father who died a year ago to the day now. How about this did you notice when they were outside. The ring that moment where just looked like becky was kicking sasha russia in real life. Yes i saw that and it sounded crazy. It sounded crazy. You mean soccer was kicking begging no so so both both so sasha sasha gets down and slaps becky really hard across the face and if you watch immediately after the slap to the face becky he just starts kicking and flailing her legs not like a wrestler but like a little brother who's angry like seriously like she kicked her like get off of me. It didn't look like working at all. Now i could be wrong. I could just be the world's biggest mark all possible but in that moment it felt to me like whoa and i'll tell you one thing sasha working completely heal and has so much potential for problems in terms terms of how she works with other women on the roster 'cause i. I already think that sasha naturally brings so much heat when she works with people that a situation like that we're like hey. I'm the bad guy so. I'm going to be stiff. I'm going to be slapping you. I could see that all going very very wrong. Which for the audience makes fantastic television but uh-huh yeah but of course they don't like i was saying before they don't they don't take it all away like i'm surprised that they <hes> no. No you know what's happened again. On yeah the fiend a pristine strikes again just as he's getting the right into the middle of it good luck it's written i can't take anymore. Where'd you lose me. We're fiend. Dipper steamed struck again <hes> me they won't go far enough dot dot doc. You lost you there. Okay i was just saying it doesn't shock me that i said that you know real life. Scenarios are incorporated a lot these days and it doesn't for everyone attitude and that was like her re entry into and i was thinking maybe on monday when the mike and she has a promo which you know she will. She doesn't like talk about that or whatever like. I'm surprised that you know what i mean. I'm surprised that like what will be her heel character. We'll be her reason for turning heel. I i'm here and and and and also it gets a lot more nerve wracking once. She has the mike and starts talking that of course but i'm just saying what is her reasoning gonna be it would be. There's only one way to make this work with her. As a he'll bring in her obnoxious snowflake jewish liberal new york manager who with with the one what if the person that is trying to kill roman reigns is the carpenter. Wouldn't that be cool. Yeah i mean except for them. We have harper and own again. Which man who else could it be if it's not you know. Have you considered fiend. Morris breath welcome to do what there's nothing scarier than morris when he hasn't had borscht where's s._k._g. As she he estrogens still doing the podcast he's in spain. I believe okay talk about living the game accolade delicious chicken. I was telling the audience earlier as g g at the summer slam party order order fifteen wings when we when we sat down to eat and then and then someone else i wanted to share more food and ordered more wings well. He's you know he's a was. He physically congested. Oh my goodness physically gargantuan shot. Also i got to hang up with you and do mailbag and one of the great e mails we have today someone referred to him as trish stratus trish status that match match was that was that was the best match of the night i did. I put it over big time i was i was very you gotta give charlotte. A lot of credit was very good. Let me say when we're thinking about the fiend so apparently okay okay. Currently i read this this morning. They <hes> there's criticism out there that it's too it really is scary by the way and and when you go now on to look at the entrance on youtube on the i know they cannot. I heard anthony showed ahead my producer. Anthony told me that they removed the ahead. It's grotesque looking but i will tell you i will tell you at some point with wrestling like nothing made me sicker and dip if you read it. It probably made you you can your mouth that a couple of weeks ago on the conference. Call vince mcmahon referred to the bloody -ness of aid w and how that we don't do things like that you know this is not that makes me puke. Make up your mind guys. This is not disney. It's wrestling. You got you okay. We you can't have blood. We can't have chair shots and now you do something awesome and it's too scary. I mean sorry kids. Get scared. Watching things sometimes times like i was scared of wrestlers kid. I you know i was scared of moda. I was desperate. I was terrified of modem. I was terrified of bundy. You're terrified of bundy different scary at such a difference in scariness. There will different kinds of fear well. Yeah i mean i was oh you know scared of his his mill. That's what it was i was i was scared that one day i would have the same haircut the same body audio and be forced to wear the same unit so it was a different kind of fear is am i going to become king can qinghong bundy <hes> and become weird cat man who lives by myself new jersey. I shouldn't say it it said <hes>. I got one more thing to tell you. Let me tell you what i had for breakfast this morning the grammy salmon from from nails. What are your thoughts dip in. That sounds delicious. Please study or half door aw i'll tell you what the pastrami salmon is. I mean jewish goodness at it's finest you can get an alert. If it's there there you get it you have to i. I don't know anyone who doesn't want the fish rami salmon over the regular walks. I don't know anybody one person. I guess i prefer chertien russia. What's your if you go if you have if you're dying tomorrow god forbid and they go. You have one bagel left. What's the bagel you make well. It's complicated because my favorite pine of bail is everything that's fine but i mean what's the big. What's what's the whole spread. What do you put what is the last bagel legal. They'll give you anything you want. I'll tell you right now. I'll tell you right now because this is what i what i get my my favorite dish in los angeles at barney's apostrophe s. greengrass okay and this is what it would be. It's an everything bagel with <hes> one era of cream cheese. Okay i would say two layers to schmeer cream cheese too soft scrambled eggs on top of that and then i sprinkle capers chris over at the biggest caper guys in business today i could snack on them all day in fact. I'm gonna ask me to give me a canepa. Renew my god capers. I want some capers scream. I don't care where you find them. Find though yeah yeah that it now then capers and then i'll put the locks over the capers and then and then if there's like a lettuce garnish your your honestly this fien dickerson you are a you are truly a maniac. That is a mutton maniacal order. It's delicious delicious my final bay goal. If i had to do it would be the same one. I get in most circumstances. It is a toasted hosted scooped out sesame cream cheese locks tomato good night good luck about it's ridiculous. How much how much how much fat are you really saving getting rid of their when you scoop. You're getting rid of carbs in your replacing it with delicious fatty cream cheese. It's better i'd i'd what would i rather have green men. I'd rather have cream cheese than then more bread. That's me i prefer cream cheese scope and then you toast figuring your cracker you putting cream cheese on a cracker. I i think they toast then scoop scoop scoop and toast either way. It works fine right. It's not a cracker. It doesn't get that hard. You know what i gotta go. I gotta finish the podcast. Go eat your capers all right good doc fiendee pristine everyone he comes in and steals the show again by the way i need to give a shoutout to vivid seats you know vivid seats by now thousand online event ticket marketplace dedicated to providing fans of live entertainment. I'm not gonna read it to what they have written down. If you need tickets to something you go to vivid seats. It's it's that simple you go to the app store or google play you download. 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Let me take a couple of of emails before we get out of here. <hes> and i apologize for having to sort of do a bit of a rush job this week but no oh s. g. lots of radio to do. <hes> robert rock writes us ma ma ma ma ma mail your majesty. I listened to so many versions of the show this point i've lost count one thing as always made me laugh at gray's belief that bret hart is the greatest professional wrestler of all time. I don't know why that makes me laugh. That's crazy while i believe he's arguably only one of the all time greats he's nowhere near number one i would in fact argues not even the best heart of all time i think that owen hart had all the technical skill that greg admires and bret hart and the charisma that brett locked if owen had been given the type of push that brett had he would have been a better consistent draw than his older brother. I know greg is gonna run me down for this. If you read it on the air tell him to email me back. Can we can debate this civilly love you both and enjoying the shoot arrow baby welcome to shoot arrows baby good message and listen. I don't disagree that owen was was in some ways more charismatic than brent and technically amazing. <hes> owen did have a couple of moments though steve austin obviously a couple of moments though where he he did prove to maybe not be as flawless in the ring as brett was but i think it's a fair argument. You can totally really have the argument. Adam writes us ma ma ma ma ma male guys podcast etc for their attorney king of the ring. It's about time they brought it back. However what what if instead of sixteen superstars on the main roster the twelve from the main roster six from raw and smackdown and the remaining four were singles champions from x t annexed the u._k. To a five live and cetera just imagine region dream verse murphy walter verse mcintyre is too great idea. What do you think stay major. Enjoy yourself a walk into the shoot arab baby <hes> adam good email. I've answer really good point. Eric writes us <hes> ma ma ma ma ma ma mail has she g. I recently came across an area on the map called brett the heartache california. They have population of five thousand two questions. Have you been there before. And when are you moving there eric in fandango homeland of maine <hes>. Let's let's see robert. Wright's us ma ma ma ma mail on with life listeners from london so waking up to video sasha banks hugging pair of becky's. He's fans before smashing. Their hero with a steel chair was a great start to my tuesday. <hes> i've not really been a long time wrestling fan league type in w. w. five years ago my maton blah blah blah blah blah so he's network okay so my favorites aren't some colder brad and hogan is okay <hes> really it's the four horsewoman there's favorites and and their contemporaries who had tune in for they were the people who are doing something genuinely new at the time i started watching wrestling so sasha verse becky is the most excited i've been about the product post menia it does make me wonder if any other women's title could have generated the same level of fan interest. It really seems like the main roster has really struggled stars on the same level of charlotte bailey becky and sasha especially leeson's rhonda left <hes> so i shoot air question for you. Guys is what the w._w. Should do to set up. Its women division for the long run after the mania main event. It's a hard question and i don't really know exactly <hes> i would say sit back and enjoy this right now. I'm not gonna sit down thinking about what's gonna be next. <hes> i wanna enjoy this <hes> but you're right and for the record you know charlotte end up having a big weekend with a with a match against trish but i think things have been great for charlotte recently either. Everyone talks about charlotte like everything's always perfect and i'm not blaming charlotte for this but it hasn't been i think her character goes wayne's. You know being on smackdown more not being utilized as much as becky. Was you know not having more meaningful feuds. I just feel like charlotte's character. Has its issues too but right now. It's it's having a really good moment which i'm happy for mal zakat peter rosenberg shots that guy greg obviously the most maids thinking w._w. After summer i was the debut the fiend. I can't remember the last time i was this excited about something in wrestling that was so far from reality but was executed so perfectly by the w._w._e. Since there are rumors that they are bringing came back the two thousand and two smackdown stage or at least changing the stage and all the programs that would fox in the fall how major to be w._w._e. Had bray wyatt as his kids host character what actually host a live version of firefox okay. That's what he's trying to say a live version of the firefly funhouse on the current smackdown stage i'm. I don't think you could do that too. Good good idea appreciate the emails ac but i've been trying to do that. It gets very corny that character in that setting of the fire five one firefly funhouse. The house has to be on stage sort of separately. I just think it's the only way it works. <hes> fien tiger woods just bogeyed whole <hes> all right guys. I gotta get out of here. There's more emails. Jonathan writes about his worry about the o c. I understand that particularly for me the name though <hes> so we will jonathan next week <hes> it's rosenberg beats at gmail.com estrogen. We'll be back next week stage enjoy yourself and as always his take it he's made aw it's professional wrestling up this evening aw sweet at it is great stroke sessional. That's shouldn't wrestler in the history of artful.

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Big Box of Booty Os

The New Day: Feel the Power

42:45 min | 9 months ago

Big Box of Booty Os

"The following program is original. WWE PODCAST Day yes. Welcome back to your favorite Robert and the greatest podcast of all time titled the New Day Fees It's twenty twenty first off. We WanNA know y'alls new year's resolution so mixture Tweeden amid US using the Hashtag new day pod but as far as we go we missed our news resolution from this past year which remember I had us through the joint resolution of we could do a split. Well don't don't put it on all all of us because I can do a split on the two of Y'all I actually never agreed you did no. I don't remember cocoa. This is all you well. That's not how it works out because I told mikey lease so I can't be stretching like that. It's not good for it very convenient. You know well nope I gotta do something. I'm not GonNa make this whole Mike ilise hostile. Let's go and I'm out yeah So as far as New Year's resolutions go are those been a thing for you guys ever like. No never not once in fact I put up an old tweet that I sent Last year two years ago I quote. I don't like New Year's resolutions at all. In fact I vowed to get fatter more seat for spend more frivolously and enter more toxic oxygen relationships. These are my new year's regressions. That's how I feel about silly to wait until January first to make some life to make some changes right now. I agree I agree. Yeah nonsensical what kind of numbers do it big. I forgot I was actually going to say somebody Google this but at the time that this was the story it was tweeted by someone sent out at two point. Five thousand retweets in eight point. Eight thousand likes those are good numbers probably way up higher right. It's probably much higher. They jump about earlier. You know how important it is for me numbers on twitter. I could tell from the words that people don't like that they like your robust vocabulary. Right is good. Some people tell me that they learn words from the tweeted really helping the youth and the the older people. Yes I have a less vocabulary. Yeah Nice what about you. Cove New Jersey us. Resolutions are I. I'm not about all the same thing like why would you. Why would wait? You don't need to wait to make a news and make that change now so y'all make your changes now And also tell us about them using new day POD and I WANNA go near my usual solutions because I just injure myself so I don't have to do them. Works out well so to get back on track so when we were wrestling the prime time players we've got got beat up a lot almost lost my life a couple of times just GonNa be very scary man big biggest ideas. I kinda miss the prime time players. They were fun together made sense as a good time. Yeah and people like you know do what they're supposed to do. They always got people hyped. You know what I'm saying so it always makes it easier from from a you know wrestling perspective when you have an opponent of people care about and they definitely cared about him and I think not to our own horns but we got people to care about them even more so you know. Oh can you give me a alive action audible experience of what it's like when titus is in their blowing a comeback when titus is in their blown a comeback it is You're living life on the edge of your seat and you don't know whether it's going to end you know or you're going to survive and it's thrilling pulling in that sense you know there's a time and this wasn't in the comeback but I'm in the corner you know titus has these overhand shops you know what I'm saying Huge hands actually The farmer's walk right he has the record record of hard knocks for the farmer's walk you hold a dumbbell and you walk How much is it like an eight hundred pound pound pound dumbbells who went on in a fifty pound dumbbells and you essentially walk for as long as you can titus? O'Neil hands are so big that they wrapped twice around the bar and he walked around the record. Anyway he has these big hands where he hits it with these shops and and At one point he hit me in the chest with shop and I started kind of moving down because it hurts and he keeps on shopping so he proceeds to chop me in the face. That was the best and my God again like life flashing before your eyes because chops are not meant to go across the face that's essentially like it's a slap. He's a a big powerful man and you know that when you're in there with him I was going more for the what does he say. If you'RE GONNA go who would give it up so and so from the crowd perspective. If in the event that people are tired or they're not feeling the match titus within intimidate everybody into standing up and sharing when he's yelling at the top of his lungs get off and it's quiet and now he's looking at you so then you stand up stand up. We start clapping. You're better Stan. You know I love it. That's one of my favorite things out of his hands up in the air to elbows. Don't extend all the way. So he's doing like he's he's throwing them up and it's kind of funny. It's scary all around. I love it and so getting to work with him and Darren was It was it was fun. It was good. Good little run That we have with them which eventually led to us being the first trio inside of an elimination chamber as part of the very first tag team elimination chamber which was absurd that they let us all get in there at once and we got to come out last and became out though we were not supposed to come out less. Yeah and and that Elimination Chamber. I remember because very easily could have been a train wreck very easily and it was actually a pretty solid often. Most Mar that TAG team Elimination Commission Chamber was the first tag team eliminate chamber ever but it also featured on that very same card and elimination chamber for the men. That was the Tros you can check out. Way they check to berry was checked out at the time and for some reason he decided to take someone and rammed him through mark. Henry's pod and marks pod. God is not supposed to be open for quite some time so after he does. This interest sets in motion a reaction the reaction because the pod breaks aches and mark decides to not come out. Because it's not. It's time to come out. It's not the time he's supposed to but does nothing holding him from coming as a massive man he's just standing there. which what does part now just like? There's a crack pot the pot the plexiglas is gone. Why open all you have to do is move as before? And he's in the ring and he just stood there for minutes seemed like an eternity to me watching it and this is so awkward to me. But it wasn't his time so he didn't do and then mark decides he's had enough and he's got to come out and then everything and it was kinda planned seemingly went awry and they just somehow got to the finish but I remember some near death talk. We're almost landed on his head a few times. It was Well it's one of those things so we weren't even going to talk about this but it's relevant now so as far as as as a performer. When you're watching that happen to someone? It feels like forever but when you're the one it's happening to that is terrifying. Three seconds can feel like thirty minutes so I can only imagine and then obviously we know this like becoming from tag team wrestling. Sometimes it's more difficult to really message to multiple people as opposed if you're having a one on one match it's easy we can communicate whatever but unlimited chamber what six people in their summer. Marin pods. Some aren't so because there's no way to tell the raft to tell this person to tell that person to get back on the same wavelength so just I can't imagine what it felt like and certifications. I don't know what I would have done if that happened. It just once that pod went. It's you're kind of just fighting to try to get back on track. Yeah I think oftentimes though too when things do go go like offline like that. That's when it gets fun for us. You know what I'm saying because you get a you know what I'm saying kind of freestyle and do whatever you think is appropriate in that timeframe Graham but for it to happen in that situation like you said to have. What was it? Six people in the ring at the same time trying to get everybody on the same page. I think dolphins in their quarterback in you know But yeah man. That's better better than than us all right so so yeah like you said that. They had their limited chamber chambers well so we had ours The next thing next big thing that occurred With new day is winning back our tag team championships in a four four way match at Summer Slam Twenty fifteen. Yeah that was probably when when people ask me for the biggest moment of our career I always. I don't know that's always wanted on some cool things but that feels to me like the. I always hate that we made but that feels like if there is a we made it feels like the we made it moment because I remember the love that we got from that crowd in Brooklyn was was wild to me. Yeah there's A. There's a big difference in people cheering for you or people booing you when people being emotionally invested in giving you that investment back. That's that's a different feeling in. That's definitely to to what you said. We definitely felt that energy and that love in that respect. It's a new day. Yes it is art art art. Lock it down. Lock it down. 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And and it's all monitored twenty four seven by live security professionals get so much across hundred dollars two hundred one hundred fifty cents a day no contracts that my friend is not a deal. That's a seal go to simplisafe dot com slash new day today to get free shipping on your order plus a sixty day money back guarantee. That's simply safe S.. I M P L is sick dot com slash new day to save on home security simplisafe dot com slash. So the next night in were Brooklyn you. So that's when we introduced Franchesca because as I remember we had the match feeling good they said. Oh maybe you know tomorrow night on raw you guys do something with this New York New York and this is when we were starting to get like like okay. They're kind of trusting to do whatever we're asking for stuff and they're kind of letting it slide look. Let's see how far we can go at this at this point in our career. We're trying to see if we can get into trouble and so I remember text back. Oh instead of like singing it. Can you get me a trombone. 'cause I can play it by ear and he's like sure we'll ask and we're kinda joking about it like in the in the hotel or wherever we were and then a few months later I remember gets back. Yeah we can get a trombone now. Author was like what is happening. How do we use his trombone in this? And so I learned how to play today. We did our whole stick and I was supposed to hand off to our nick at the bottom of the ramp and I saw him and my brain is like I don't know if I'm ever going to trump on live. TV again. So I'M GONNA keep it for the match. And then during the metric just randomly play it and then during the commercial STU NCUA said he not be named is laughing. His ass off keep playing trombone kept playing it and then we got in the back I remember. He was like cackling. He's like always. Yeah Yeah always you guys always part of the group. And that's when she got the name and it became a thing and now we created adamant objects psychology. My favorite trombone. Moment moment there will always be you playing tax. We had no idea. But Koby are loading up double team finishing we hit but as reloading it up. You hit taps APPS and I had to do my best not just about the pin whoever and and then it was like kind of like rushed to because we didn't have any idea to like wait for you to play this. You just start playing golf family. Is he playing taps. In the middle of it was incredible. It was incredible credible. That was so cool. But that's more of the idea of just kind of doing things enshrining stuff on TV a lot of times throughout wrestling people on on live events on how shows see if it works and we were just trying stuff on television like the most ridiculous things we could think of so the fact that we had a trombone Eventually what was it when I was out with my I was I was. There's something we brought the Unicorn stuff in so you were out. I think at the time I think it was the time. Maybe it was the ankle but I think it was around the time you were getting married. Oh Okay Yeah we did it initially yes Near Halloween so I remember it was Kofi and I were there and then Hickey I think from merch came to us. No we did we did. We had commentary that day and I think we had Actually I think it was win. Who made the You know look like he was there but he wasn't there wasn't win made us these he's Yeah from practices. You sent me a picture of it Unicorn Horn so we literally just had like a strap of cloth and they work their magic and had these like crystal unicorn horns that they made and our member number like putting them on and like they weren't made to unicorn horns on a human head so it was like it hurt to actually have a monitor like heavy and everything But then as soon as we walk through the curtain then The people that March came to us. I think we can make some Unicorn Horns Bugai's we can make them light up me. Yes sir. Go ahead and it was like a week or two later. They actually had actual light up unicorn horns four sale. Yes and I can't believe we're some of these things because they're very phallic. Extremely extremely my mind is always in the gutter but this is very very well. That's the thing that's kind of what we always do. You know there's the double entendre for everything and the reason that we started doing the Unicorn stuff so for me specifically I throughout up my teenage years. I got introduced to the movie. The last Unicorn and the whole plot of that movie is the fact that magic is gone because UNICORNS are now gone. UNICORNS are the ones that bring magic to the world and so we were saying that we are bringing magic back to wrestling which makes us the UNICORNS. WWE and then it just Kinda took on a life of its zone so we wanted to always have a say in what it is that we produce merch wise. What our logo look like? We wanted control over everything as much as we could get and so when we're talking about search. We wanted to make something that was more than wrestling shirt. And essentially having three dudes on a Unicorn on my rainbow corrode like. That's not a wrestling shirt. Black shirt with you know regular what is it. A Arabic fought three six. There's a font that's like the first one right. In Microsoft Word I mean aby whichever whatever generic generic font generic catchphrase black shirt white writing. It's like okay. This isn't what what I know to be as the kind of shirts that normalcy or random. Random photo on it Arabic is Arabic Arab. Look look look at it for this time new roamers sure. Whatever it's fun it's a fun home Afonso relevant to the point that I made? But you're right you're the one who saw it but anyway we wanted to wanted to go off the beaten path and make our own path and so we made up this this type of image. The artist kind of did their thing on when we saw it was like yes this is it. I remember you saying 'cause I don't buy clothes or anything but I remember you saying what was I think. A shirt that was really hot was like a cat shooting lasers out of its is in space. Yep that was the inspiration and disowned third. It sounds sounds cool to me. So let's try and I cert- right. Well we'll surfer sure that we had input on first shirt was the new day crest on a gray a dark shirt phoenix. Nobody knew what the story was behind. You're supposed to be the new day with the rebirth. All of us in our careers. This Phoenix rising out of the ashes. And so you know just a a really terrible cert- but so to actually have this. I consider this to be like our first serve because we did have the input anytime we see them with their shirt. We say respect you you the fact that you with us during that era. Yeah that's loyalty. Also that certain reminds me of a little story involving Merch who where we try to get at the time. We only had our shirts available online. You couldn't buy the new day shirt in the arena anywhere anyway. We perform so we go to say his name now. Let's leave his name out. We go to Mirtz. It's a man in March and we say men and Merch. When do you think we might be able to get one of our shirts in the venue? So the people at live events during an admission thank go out with their kids and bias shirt and I don't mean to cut you off here but you gotta understand like where we were in our career was we. Were actually getting over reactions to where people before the souls. We're talking about new day sucks or new Iraq's you know and we were at a stage where we needed to get people some merchandise to be able to support us so we went to The mercy even asked him we ask. Yeah when can we get a shirt in a venue just any venue. This man looked at US three of us working very hard. We are actually getting reactions now and things were picking up some some steam. We're we're on our way. And he looked at us and he said Never Ha. He said never any laughed at us. He said that we would never be able to have a new day shirt in a venue for purchase. There isn't just when you go to these venues. I Dunno if you people listening to have been to live events or two. TV's point when you go out there that's probably the lease twelve shirts. At least you get a variety of different shirts go out and buy some different churches many options. It's not like it's just John Cena this. There's there's multiple this space for people like this space to get one shirt one measly piece of merchandise for people to purchase to support us and this man looked at us and said never all right to laugh in our faces and it wasn't a joke is not he meant it he meant and you gotta remember. This is a point of us this weird hustle. Hustle was struggling to get off the ground. We need every every little victory means something. Every opportunity to get a piece of merchant of building means something to get a promo. We want. Want me something because we need every little victory just to stay afloat and to be laughed at Merz is supposed to help us. We're supposed to be in our corner to help us. Get our brand out for people to support us. That's a big thing when people can look into the crowd and see all those people who are rocking with us but to have a man who's supposed to be in a position to help us to help. That's that's his job to help. Talent get their brand on shirts. That's his job. It's not just the top guys before from people from top to bottom should all be able to get their brand out there and for him to laugh at US really is something. I'll never forget regardless of how far along we get as a group and how much we've made it. How much success we have? I'll be sixty seventy years old now. Still Remember you Megan I was GONNA say yeah. Well Joe won't live that long but I've been I've been doing cardio and cleaner so yeah you know I might make it uh-huh for nothing else than to think about this. Yes jazz. You've heard If you listen to the other podcast that we've done the other episode which you should You will understand that new day We are very much driven spite us. Time that's mostly you. Kofi is pretty. He's uh-huh have much by that was mostly a performance. I don't really regret taking holds a ninety eight percent. You also that I am full of it. It's it feels good to us Okay but getting pass emerge getting past this win at Summer Slam The next big thing. That occurred which blew my mind was getting to work with the deadliest absolutely absurd moment in time because d Yvonne is somebody who is very important to me in my entire career. He someone that. I've called a mentor for years when I was wrestling over at. Ta Who Wrestling Companies Exis- is this He won the guys who really helped me looked out for me because I would just sit around and I do my homework because I was still in school. You know and I never went out or anything and so he would come and sit with me and talk with me. Try to help me out with what I was doing When I got released from over there he called me and we talked for like two hours because like I don't know maybe not good enough www woman because they said I was too shortness ordnace ninety again just like all these words of encouragement to finally get to this point? So you'll be able to work with him really was something that was very important for me and my career or just a guy who's just love this. Since he was a kid to be able to be. There was was incredible in that moment. Go through table in Three D. but then after like three months of it I was I was done with it the back back used to be pristine not a mark on it milk chocolate right and then after you take an table booms every single three thirty four tables a week for like three months right and it is a face bump you should be going forward but I guess he's kind of inevitable that you kind of because if I stayed completely completely forward my Chin would it would poke Bubba in the shoulder so you got a sweet spot of like your shoulder to your muscle. My Chin would fit right there. And I don't WanNa Poke Kit Steph. Something bad turn my head turning my head once he touches you you turn a little bit. And so there's always like a nail or a piece of wood that scrapes. There was one time when I pulled like that. Like two inch piece of wood tricep. That was disgusting gross but for the love should just ruined bubba shoulder. Well you know what I now have the sweet King Tattoo on my by said. They're all they. Don't you make it sound like I disliked dragon boat love it every single time that. There's some sort of debate or quarrel that we're not set on E. feels the need to the go-to Cocoa Cope Accuses Daddy Cove back up on his co. Kofi Kant's because own mind speak your own mind. This is race. He was my daddy. I would speak to them. They just got real us. God Oh boy I ah real rates fund but no co Voice of reason so you God forbid that I go to him to be the voice of reason in getting the chance to work with the with the losers obviously awesome for us to be in a sentence where someone is saying the new day and the Dudley boys in the same breath because he's geyser legends tag team champions around the world every place I've ever been so not be able to have that segment with them about the tables. Remember say the tables stupid. We saved videos. Yeah Oh my God yeah yeah. There was the one segment where we stole the table from the rand. Backup dancing. I Love I love that we we were supposed to be like bad guys right but people were cheering for the entertaining stuff that we did. Yeah so I remember bubby and Kinda hot but we at the same time like how to do us and we couldn't like pull back from being US otherwise like that doesn't benefit anybody but man. Oh say the tables was real hypocritical. Hypocritical stuff I love induce Bruce. Do you like your would you. You'll respect would yeah right. Yeah yes link to that that below we use copyrighted music so we couldn't put it on my youtube up up down down. Subscribe if you get to subscribe already put it on my personal youtube. I believe Austin creed I'll find it and put the link down there so you guys can see. See All the dump stuff I've done on my hilarious parody rap from earlier in my life anyway. That link is on there They say the tables. which is it's so ridiculous so good what's what's the song the Senate decided to dog McLaughlin associated which which leads us into the fact that our backstage is the stuff that we don't social in order to hide what we were doing on television. Just continue to get more and more more and more ridiculous so excited think at this point is when we really started to kind of lean into that and like I said earlier like almost like we were trying to get in trouble. We were trying to see how far we could go because wrestling. Obviously it's in. Its own bubble in the rules of wrestling. Apply within that bubble. We're trying to effectively break down all of those rules and rewrite right them to our entertaining aspect of things that we thought were funny. So like When we'd surgeon Christian versed in Baltimore Yeah remember because I backstage very who's live right right? Yeah that was awesome to have these iconic tag teams to be involved with I think was seth also something early early like you kind of pass by. was He involved in that. I don't know I don't think in that segment is involved in that. Was the one where you had the Kazoo and so we talked about it and then we had to end up going live like oh at some point. You know we'll break the you'll you'll break. I try to break it. You know it gets to be live and you'd say to buy vile you just put it in your mouth and spit it and I remember sitting there watching it like just like trying so hard not so bus because it was the live my God yes great and those guys so they've always been so cool to us and just understand comedy and so laid back and to be able to do a segment with them was such an honor and to feel like doc. I don't want to say that we all existed on the same plane but it felt it didn't feel like to really over teams and then a bunch of guys on the roster who are slobs if alike we got three important teams here and we're all it felt like we existed again of like we're all. Yes the moment we talk about like summertime. We feel like you know US getting titles at that point. It's like us making it for me. 'cause like Dudley Boyz I have story upon story of of being at a show in them being there legit like legit so Cobb county Georgia Bubba. devante come out. My friend's mom is taken us to the show. It's easy W so. There are cussing everybody out screaming at him. If there's two people in here that they can fight right US get your asses down here right now and these college kids. It's the Civic Center. So everything's real. Close these college kids. We're looking at us and say Oh these wrestlers and I won't repeat all the words that and screamed at us and our friends. Mom was very nice. Kind attractive woman. They were saying the worst things to her. I said and twenty nineteen that would not fly anywhere but it brought up the whole crowd and the point where we were gonNA leave because it was it was too violent and they talked about his mom like that and so she wanted to stay to see them. Get beat yeah and so like to go from that to wrestling against them to be obsessed with edge and Christian in the five second pause and just tag team wrestling general to work with them doing the backstage stuff. Stephanie working the entering segments with them were all dancing and stuff together. Like we're getting rub from these guys and they want to do it. That's what really to me. Made me feel like we finally got there. That was really cool especially but we move on to the one year jamboree with the Hutu. Dragons uses so Kofi came out. This was funny funny to me because Kofi decided to completely break the fourth wall on television. which were usually not supposed to do? It's funny 'cause so when we go through and PROMOS and we're walking through him in the back and just kind of saying whatever sometimes we'll just say some stuff that we don't intend on saying on television you know and I said country music sucks is this is. This is me speak not my character. This is me saying country music so I really mean it sucks. We're like laughing backstage. Like he's not going to say this and we get out there and I'm just like If you'd like you were saying we're trying to see like how far we can push things like you know what. Let me just go ahead and say it and then just got out there. And I think that I have my hair and like a reverse which is what I was concerned about? Just trying to make this like actual Unicorn Horn such a ridiculous looking picture. Sure but came out and talked about my disdain for country music. which is it's half true? You noticed Mike and Mike Big. You know what I'm saying but for the most part shoe country she music is not for me. That was honesty because we did that Nashville. Obviously the yeah. Yeah the home country music but I miss being able to just open the cheeks. It's up one time. I remember in Pittsburgh remember. We got the terrible towels and I remember breath. Think one point I rubbed it between my cross We also did something and was it. It was in Baltimore With Adam Jones who played for the Orioles. And we you just were able to just just said let's be able to denigrate local sports teams and heroes. Yeah I really miss that so much. I know it's so man is fun because it's like we're talking about real stuff you know we're over here in this like wwe wrestling world and then people who are professional athletes who have lost like pretty big game so you know. Oh you've been as as a kid. These are the Games that you look forward to that you imagine yourself being in and we're just openly laughing back lost in the biggest game your life. Let me go back home. And we're us but that's a real. You ought to be everybody all the people at home. I love that we lose that media. Okay it the most that that's going to hurt hurt yet so with with other ridiculous stuff that we were doing like you said people were cheering us in so it was that thing. We're doing a so much at one point that we went and we begged essentially to heal. But we were fighting. Turn Bay face so we didn't want him then they they told us that we we had to do it because it was. It was too too much of a stark difference. When we'd be in matches with people? We actually turned babies with Christian. Yes in a Promo said on the pay per view very weird to just do a promo going to be that when we were in the ramp and they were dancing with us. Oh and they were throwing money. Yeah yes your money money on but regardless we turn turn faced with them which was a good deal for us? I guess it was good. I just didn't wants to do it. I know it didn't want to turn but I get to if you're a baby face in you working us and we're getting cheered schick asses and doing all the obnoxious things that we're doing. I would what I imagine. And I'm not saying dirty dozen to this. Don't try to put words in her mouth. I would imagine that attitude era wise if you were wrestling playing against the rock as a he'll be like what am I supposed to do as a baby face right and we're supposed to do. I'm not saying the rock. Okay so everybody relaxer a clear dirty guys but okay so in that in that babyfaced turn. We're now leading into going into Wrestlemainia WRESTLEMAINIA thirty two. I believe yeah and so This was a very confusing time because I think people that aren't in wrestling sometimes believe like oh the performers know what's going on and they know if it's going to be four on three or three on three or if it's going to be for the titles or if it's not much time they're going to have like weeks in advance no. Aw Now we know we normally don't anything at all there. Were just as much darker you guys at up to. About what four. Five hours before we go out there and so there wasn't wasn't really a a strong built for this match which was which was disheartening for us at the time. Because it's a tomato wrestlemainia match the first time that we're all interested in any match together. Do you know what the build was. The build was reworked. A bunch of singles matches hope. He worked a singles matches. Oh I remember the order somehow. So there's four members of League of Nations uh-huh somehow we're all healthy at the time. We all wrestle. Kobe work three visit. How how did I even remotely remember? We come to work every day. Sweet like Oh my God again. What unreal bill? And when we're explaining this you have to remember so we Up to that point we'd been a team for however many years and Lisa. You know. Yeah so even how. How shows television events like we very very very rarely would work singles matches so live events? If it's a straight up tag two of US will be in the match one person will be on the floor. Rotate who's on the floor. Same thing we TV and so for this to come about and we're Kofi had three singles matches John the mindset. Yeah unless you're doing it regularly you know I'd like to the second time I was like. Oh my God I can't I guess someone's gotTa go twice you know and then we're just like Oh yeah watch me have the third one next this week two and then it happened. Wait hold on a minute man. What is going on? We got a rotation it was very strange. It was a real hot build who are now wrestlemainia. And we attempted to put a little more stank on it by making these ridiculous parody videos where we would like dress ups like the office actually asked us the videos they did it did it. Wasn't even some videos videos making fun of nations and so I. I don't know how y'all felt at the time I was like just just seems stupid but I guess we'll make the best of it so we I think we just kind of sat around and we kind of did it up and just made these little real real dumb vignettes. It's an EMA rousseff one with a turtleneck little neck and head because that was actually during the time period that he threw the fish at Lana. Right because I was just telling him about because I saw I'm really backtracking but I saw some array at a gym in Sydney Australia. At some point it's a few months ago and it was random and I was talking to rousseff about my favorite summer. A program was when heated stuff with her and Lana and he threw the fish up up the ramp and almost almost got it was a lot of what a throw. You almost hear his wife with with a raw fish. They've been having marriage issues on the show for like as long as they've been on the roster but they just stick together. Yeah Yeah Indian strengthen relationship so coming off those the videos that we made making fun of legal nations we get the WRESTLEMAINIA thirty two two and this is the one where we come out of the bhuttos box. Yes sounds cool of twenty four was being done on us. Yes they're constantly getting and footage were doing stuff at TV we're doing stuff at PR. Then just kind of cataloging this couple of months leading up to mania The original idea that we actually had for the entrance. I was kind of insane to so we haven't done this. And hopefully we'll get to at some point is we wanted to get a big van and have it look a unicorn but the back doors are taken off and they've been replaced place with huge but cheeks are. They're on springs so when the when the ruin the van moving but cheeks are shaking and then once it gets onto the end of the ramp. Hey fits in essentially cheeks open up and then we come out of the van on tricycles with all our Unicorn stuff on just having a great time and so we explain this to triple h to Paul all he who shall be named and he says I mean that's great and we can look into it if you want to or you guys can come out of a big box of Bhutto's like the toys and we're like that yes sir So that to me at least for us. That's that's our grades entrance ever ever so good so absurd coming out we got the San because I'm spiteful and I wanted to be like Vida Loves Dragon Ball Z. So he was totally down Co.. What were you shaking in your head? You're burying me right now. You're saying move on. Just move past. Look I'm sure I'd Love Dragon Bosie. I just haven't really seen it. Let's move on. It's not even known that if you didn't know doing it Z.. He's putting your love on trying to give up any real sarcastic. You Listen Deal Dragon. Bossy ills death. Note the same Nano because one is factual and we all know the others ally. We do now anyway anyway so we come out where in that stuff. We had this match with League of Nations that match ends and then make Foley Shawn Michaels and stone cold. Steve Austin come out and we get the dancing. Everyone always asked like Oh what would your ideal match be Do you ever want to have a fantasy match. Always used to be. I'd wrestle. Shawn Michaels was at Wrestlemainia. And we didn't get to wrestle but I was in the middle of the ring in front of thousands and thousands of people working with Shawn Michaels. Yeah so to me that counts and I mean this. I can't even believe I'm still even saying that. It definitely does think about how many multiple people can say. They'd had a match with Shawn. Michaels at Wrestlemania Samania one person can say they toward one at me. Understand congrats thank you thank you. How was your experience? It was my least favorite wrestlemainia and when when we did twenty four afterwards. They interviewed us. iphone yeah you decide because for me it was like more of a special thing like you guys had been at Manian Russell that mania before for like this was the first time I was in a battle royal the not the year before but the year before that I was in the battle royale which is like okay cool you get to be out there but I. This is my first time being being in a advertised match wrestlemainia and it just completely fell apart at no fault of our own so I was like one another level mad because it shouldn't have been like that there shouldn't have been arguments. There shouldn't have almost been a fight so I'm on like another level of heated air. What we said on air the the grievance that we have with the match and I feel like a lot of ways that dynamic were it was like the two polar opposites right because we are three guys who were always totally for the group. The better that one of us is the better with all of us and them was more than mentality of. I don't WanNa be here. I'm in this for myself. How can I you know what I mean to each their own because because that works for a lot of Peo being selfish and the business you hear people say it all the time like you gotta be you gotTa step on toes? That's kind of mentality that they had versus what we had you you know but also to and I know I'm going to hear from but for us like we. We wanted to be a tag team. We went to advertise a tag team. We want to be sold as a tag team team for them. Like they weren't tagged him guy so I completely understand that thought process. It's awesome. That's GonNa flip like if they came up to me today. They're like hey when you come back. You're a single guy but Aw that's not I mean I can. It's not my preferred lane right like being an attack until I definitely like if this is like you have to do. This is not what I WANNA do but I'll make it work okay. I'll give you more credit than that fair. I'm just trying to try trying to see from everyone's perspective like I get it. I wouldn't do it myself but I understand where that emotion comes from but to get past that we get to the the stone cold Mick Foley Shawn Michaels. I ended up getting stunned because I tried to take the dancing little too far But then it's like it's like a party foul things so it's all it's all good. They string some Steve. Weiser's wrestlemainia happens. It goes goes on Steve Bombs. That moment was really cool just being in the ring with the legends. Getting to have like that entertaining moment. to kind of try to wash the taste out of the of of the match that we had. But Yeah I'm with you that that night just felt off and I'm glad that we were able to get past it and go into our eventual super super long-term tactile rain which Along the way we got into some stuff with Gallison Anderson were they took your testicles check your balls what what a ridiculous but but but I know you feel about this but this is what talk about next time the ladies and gentlemen thank you so much for giving us a listen makes you keeping up with us on all the social media's follow follow me on instagram and twitter at examiner woods check out my youtube channel up down down on twitter and instagram. And you can also check me out on twitch DOT TV Slash Austin creed can find me at true Kofi on twitter and at and you can find me at. WWE W. E. Biggie on Pinterest and Tumbler. That's where he puts on his good. I WANNA reach out to us talking about the podcast all that good stuff. Make sure to use Hashtag new day todd if they want to continue to listener shows import work. 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As The New Day Turns

The New Day: Feel the Power

41:26 min | 9 months ago

As The New Day Turns

"Following program is it original. WWE podcast day. Yes take them to the greatest podcast you've ever heard and you're the greatest there's pockets of all time and it is called the new day fees bell. Just talk talk about you had like some some developers like in Ohio today. It's spooky man freezing right before we started e you we're asking Kofi something. Kobe is wearing a Hoodie. Says I will be your friend. I asked him the significance Yes so actually There is a a sneaker designer of note his name is John Geiger. I think it was his niece. Who came up with this idea to promotes anti bullying after say support support anti bullying? Or uh-huh okay. Yeah Yeah So. It's so. She came out with all these like sweat. Shirts that say I will be your friend and t-shirts as well. And then all the benefits and proceeds went to some charitable so organization. So I thought it was really cool and I think you know he's like nine years old or something like that but you know some kids can come together to You know to toby together in Not Not worry about this whole bullying fiasco. Scenario is cool. So I'm just trying to support. We can find the the links and stuff for that we in the description the sale anymore there's a limited it was a limited later run. Who Does Kudos to the effort? You know. Keep in touch the doing good things. The Randy Watson chill right okay. Terrific in the pool. Come back you need to come back with a jerry. Oh ooh don't come back with Gerry. Cole come back here without a Jerry Curl you realise how heavy my head would be. My hair is already enough but put up an activator and other sacrifice that you gotta make some slam for what twelve hours during the Stevie wonder beats together together you tell them you can't solve with one jerry kill anyway. Yes yes from things that we've talked about previously. We were digging into the story of how the new day came to. She became the new day. Yes I'm speaking about us in third person And what we stopped off last time was right before We Really Kinda Doug our teeth into being baby faces when we started and so there was just this this crazy feeling of being told that we were going to be these happy dancing. Happy happy preachers. When that was the complete opposite of what we said that we wanted to do But again realizing that minutes on. TV are minutes on TV and we can turn this into whatever we want but then then being so that we were going to use these characters. These these This framework to be good guys to be better faces which we realized three of US realize in the year of of what was it. Two Thousand Sixteen. What is your question? What year did we debut? 2016 is thought he fourteen fourteen. The time you've we've we've been over this I have no concept of time at all. Did you have you twenty. Two Thousand and fourteen was when we debuted officially as the new day but also the summer of two thousand fourteen. We were in Miami when the three of us were first on. TV as a collective two thousand sixteen sixty-six time. Rush numbers is numbers memories in my brain anyway. The point of this is the fact that we knew that people would not like this. We knew that they would take a dump on it. They would open the cheeks and release all over. It would spread the word right. Grasp with all ten fingers really sent a a lot of she to there's nothing blocking the spreadsheet and then you you know get a little closer okay. Yes we realized that. That's what the crowd will be doing. And then turn is actually what happened and spread that they did. It's what was the thing they kept. referencing hands across America. Hands Hands Across America. I think was a very large Gospel Group from the seventies and it was he who shall not be named. I was the one who thought. Oh this is going to be as the new day would be inspired by hands across America but I think it was just. It was a continually growing group. I think with it'd be like twenty members on stage. It'd be thirty. I'm going to say it was a cold but it almost had the feel and they just performed Gospel Song. That's that's what he had in mind. I think for what we would. Yeah yeah because it was like an actual field. Good thing but again that's in the seventies and the eighties where I feel like society at that point in time enjoyed feel good stories and they liked things that were good and happy and boy. Preaching good messages of positivity but in the two thousand. Everyone is a very cynical. When do the good thing you suck get closer to be better? I don't want to better myself. No I don't suck come on man so jaded I know right so jaded and so we knew that's what we're running into two and so we felt like. Oh this is just this is like the the death knell what we're going to do with this. So how did how did you guys feel like those. I like three months of everybody just out of buildings. Thanks I thought all right. I don't know if he was named will turnhill but people care. They may not like us but they feel a certain way so there are making noise and I was the big thing like we always. We know the issue is if people don't care they don't make noise when you come out. ooh It ain't working so it wasn't working in the way was intended to work but it was something we could use your and not the kind of in a roundabout way. We want it to be bad guys anyway. It was so for me it was is kind of messed up because you know like I said we wanted to be bad guys but we didn't have this vision in mind and the fact that we were getting too bad guys made me very happy but but at the same time the way that the people were rejecting US Piss me off because we worked so hard to get here you know what I mean and like you have no and I know we say it in a lot of interviews. Give us all the time but you have no idea how hard it is to fight and get put on television as a group in the way that we did it to be. You know coming to work. And enduring flack people laughing at US people making fun of us in the writer's room the you know some people on the roster and now the people that were doing this for you know are coming out in rejecting us. I thoroughly enjoyed when people would tell us that we sucked because now let's turn up like always like I have a tendency to do that and I I got this from you. So this was actually An Europe where like everybody in the crowd is cheering. And you have one person who will be like ooh instantly over to you all we suck so now. Everyone in the crowd confused because ninety nine percent of the people that searing us but because one dude who's like saying something like I'm turning up for him just to Piss him off you know so that's kind of what this whole scenario was where people were rejecting us and giving us what we wanted. But I didn't want you to give me like that. You know what I mean so and we're actually recording according in Philly right now we have. It was actually the royal rumble. Pre Show He Works Zorro and kid in two thousand fifteen in Philadelphia in the same building right now and that was one of the moments where we got the loud very loud massive new day. Sucks chance and we're supposed to be faces and we're not getting the reaction we're supposed to but I remember afterwards. I think it was a point either. Owner entrance afterwards with the three of us are all in the ring. We're looking at each. There's a real moment of anger that way because we worked so hard to get on TV but we also know that this isn't good. We know that the three of us are talented. Wanted and we feel very strongly in the bond as a trio and we know it's not good but in the same vein where he worked so hard to get on. TV You all talk about people being underutilized and how you WANNA see talent like be used in a better way and finally we're being using this is the reaction we're getting. That was a real moment of real anger and maybe some of it was misdirected. In maybe some of the anger from us should have been directed elsewhere and not at the fans but it was a very frustrating time. Because it's easy to look back now when we're all we I don't want to be made it but we've we've been together for five years. We've done a lot of really cool things. It's easy for us to now say. Oh it wasn't that big a deal but at the time when we're we're really in the sink or swim mode and thing. If this doesn't work I might be sent back down an xt or fired. Who knows? Yeah and that's that's one of the reasons that I will get so hot. Make Fun of me. 'CAUSE I had turned up at the smallest thing at any anybody with a frown on their face and just like turned US please. Because because that's where I felt like our bread and butter was going to be but anyway people blowing out of buildings and being upset about it it. It was rough for so many different reasons. But I think the thing that really solidified it for me and in the sense of Oh this is something that we can actually use it when we were overseas restaurant against his kid was. It's the most incredible thing what what we're in Germany. Yeah it was. I wanted to say Switzerland but it couldn't have been Switzerland. I think it was. I think it was Germany Germany. We were just talking about this on the last tour. They're huge fans over there. So that compounded with the fact that we're doing something that they didn't WanNa see it was an instant like turn right. We got in the ring. Yes so it. Was You guys in the ring against our natty was on the outside. I was on the outside for us us and I remember it was so loud like against us in for them. This is our oh I think once he got ours with you I switch and then looked at me and I said switch and then we look to switch. TJ switch switch and then just switch the whole match for me like so. I had never for the only time I've been an actual. He'll was when I first came out. This was like even before I was signed. I was you know Kofi Kingston from Jamaica as a bad guy. I had had no business being a hill because I didn't know what I was doing in the ring. But you know so. This is fast forward. What like eight years after that? I never been a heel on screen. I'd Never Benny Hill In the WWE You know landscape so for me. I was like this is pretty cool. You know what I mean and then having to do that like the first time in front the people ordinarily you'd get chances you know you get time to like practice or whatever and I had no time to do that so it was a really really fun moment for me. And especially being there with sorrow to like. He's he's one of the best in the world. So he n teaser. Oh my God. He's just one of those together and I think too. We didn't realize we didn't know if this was going to be a one night thing if we were just going to be received as heels very clearly and they would receive as maybe faces that night so I think we went out every time thinking. Okay we're going to work baby facing no work healed but will be ready to switch it and and I think we must have had at least six other shows. I remember how early it wasn't in the tour what it was. Yeah militia of the tour and every single night. It wasn't just Germany but every single title town we went to. They were clearly over as baby faces and we were clearly. He'll so I really have to give a ton of credit and we have in the past to to Cicero and kid for allowing us to have the run that we had because they were the perfect foils that if we were baby faces and we worked heels were lukewarm or the people didn't really care about we wouldn't be able to do the double switch so if it wasn't for our own kid not just being so easy to work with and so talented but being so light and so over as baby faces. That's the only only reason to switch works. And if the switch didn't work I if we didn't get to run his heels we. I don't think we'd still be together so like big hats off to and ninety to ninety two the y'all used to do a slap spot four. Yes show she was slabs are also to have ECZEMA so I very very very sensitive skin so if I get like slapped it'll bubble up and you'll see like a print of whatever hit me but it's like a bumpy bubble. It's it looks like a broken out in hives and I was trying to explain this so you guys before we even did this spot and you oh cool whatever thing another of it natty slapped me were on the ring. I'm screaming about it and return to I remember I turned to Kofi and he goes in your face. I told you got the sensitive skin and then you look you can see your fingerprints. I remember you talking about it beforehand. Like being worried about at the slop sound like a slap spot manages to slap man you know but then seeing it like legit shock you could see all the finger fingerprints fingerprints on your face light. It was bad man whose gross very serious but yeah like you were saying we have a lot to thanks as our kid and Natty for That whole run. Because that's we were working on the house shows before We've got to that point and then we work in the overseas working with them on TV to the point that we work them at our first Wrestlemainia we were On the pre show and we had a fatal tag aren kid who sows who. Obviously we'll get into stories with them later Then looks matadors. List Kawagoe and El Torito possibly my favorite wrestler of all time incredible. He is incredible good. You guys had a few my favorite thing about that is we. Held him down on the ground. Coffee held his arms and I held his legs and you splashed him credit. I think I think it was like it was the Wrestlemainia and then afterwards He came to me and he speaks English. But it's very limited. I think he said something about me being stiff and ended his career the joking around man. Who Do you guys remember that day and how hot it was outside? Lack Matt's was so hot. Oh you're talking about the rest of the wrestlemanias so that first wrestlemainia. We had a lot of people. Don't understand if they had never been to Wrestlemania there in these open Air Stadiums Right There's no roof on the mats that are all around. The ring are black and sometimes you always start early obviously So if you're in that first I part of the show where the sun is out in being everything down there is like thirty degrees and we were on the West Coast. This was San Francisco so that means I believe we went out. It was around four PM. We might have gone around out Ilori. Ironic Ford four fifteen four around like Shirley. After four o'clock taking a bump on the outside Eh wrote the outside hot getting my legs group. We talk about so little inside terms here. The the bump and feed right right so at a certain point in the match you have the bad guy the hill who be getting beat up by the baby face and you know you'll take a bump lay flat on the Mat and get up and take another one and you know pretty pretty much get beat up man. I've never bumped fed so fast you know what I'm saying like it was so just because the the Matt was so hot that you just you didn't WanNa spend even even a second on the mat so you pop up. You know what I'm saying and just and keep it moving but it was young man like you said baking. Yeah it's strange to look at those pictures from the match. Though I remember we had a tearaway pants I think you had a goatee at the time. Your facial hair is always more of all drains you we all look younger copy. Just always looks so he looks the same. I was also about forty forty pounds heavier I felt the pressure to be the tearaway pants was I felt. It was a good idea at the time. It's strange to look back we. Everything's strange to look back on when you really think about it I suppose anything back to two thousand sixteen. You know the meat from my memory concept of where we are in our careers and what time things happened. My short term memory is great my long term memory emory. Not so great. When we're dealing with time you're TERMI is horrible? Test Me Reynaud. Would you go for breakfast. Seventy second. You eat seven years already three hundred so what were those. I had to shake then I had another another shake after I worked at eight. Am Breakfast. That's me I said what's breakfast my for shakes and needed legs. I don't need that information that the information you thought it was the third milk. We're talking with eggs and potatoes suckle. Well yeah can I get a second. You're talking won't you give me a few minutes. Yeah it was going. Well let me okay. But to that point right and that's like we're talking about our own kids so they won that match mania But then we went on to continue wrestling them and we actually they were kind enough to drop the titles goes to us but that was big for us. I think it wasn't until you also gloss pass so the night after Wrestlemania was huge for your boys. What do we do the night after night? After Wrestlemainia Wrestlemainia we had a match eight man it was. I can't remember the baby faces. Zahran kid were on one team. Maybe Oh was it. That dragons debuted. Didn't they yet. Yes but they were on our team. They were on our team. So we were with Luther. Dragons they D- people hated us. They loved them. I think actually that was the same night where we're able to talk to Vince. I think it was the night right. We went back and it was such a great reaction. You know those night after wrestlemainia crowds very very good and excited and very vocal. They Buddha so badly that we were able to go events outward and say please we gotta do something and you listen. He said that Would he say OH I. I really thought that people going to cheer for this thing and he you know so all of let's just start laughing because there's no way that people are going to cheer three positively preaching preachers in this day and age. You know what I'm saying like in the wrestling world like people aren't coming coming to the so to cheer for religious anything really. You know what I mean and he just and we also laughing. He's like no no. I'm really serious. I thought that this was going to be a some of the people going to get behind them. We're like Oh my God like He. He's the only one actually thought that this was going to be an accepted dynamic. But I don't know I'm glad I'm glad that we got to when we were. I remember we were in the office and we were talking about the genuine pain sought yes face. Oh you guys really don't think this is going to work and we're like I still to this day. I still think that it was like a test to see if we would try to like not up in change things we said okay. This is what we I don't WanNa do and he's like okay cool. Let's do this. It was like what and then saying. Oh you guys are GonNa be the biggest baby faces on the show and it's like what and I. I still feel like it was like a test. Like how much do these guys want how much they willing to endure before they come to me and they say like no that needs to be like this. I have to believe how this just going to put this on television to test these three individuals. You were four months. I'M GONNA put this product on my my television screen and see if just just to see if they come up to say essentially like he's saying that they were going to make this a worse if you didn't believe in the in the process so in my in my brain I can't rock with with that idea because it's too much to think that that was actually going to be a thing but to say like Oh let's see how bad they really do want to. Because this is my happy fantasy always whiskey. I wish like just knowing what I know. I wish it was like things were that well thought out and just being around for so long like I know oh how little thought goes into some things and then all of a sudden stuff just happens when we go with it. Yeah you know if we wouldn't have taken that first step with the the idea that we didn't like didn't love but new get us on TV. If we wouldn't have taken that first step then we would have never been able to change anything and the fact that we did. Take that idea in Detroit or the best with it I think. That's what added to everybody trusting US and letting us kind of good on her own serve. Hey we saw what you want us to do. You saw US try. We've exhausted all of our options in everything that you've asked to do now. Would you mind if we tried doing what we wanted to do. And that's when we got the the okay pretty much yeah So I ended up going to he who shall not be named office and and asking him again about turning heel giving all the points on why I feel like you know in this day and age especially what we're doing very specifically what we are doing is not going to get us. That baby official reaction but if we lean into it a little a little more and we allow it to be taken as heels and I think that's what's really going to get us in told me that covy Kingston is like that consummate baby face. He's always been a baby face. This is what people know. This people love this is this is Kofi Kingston. People never buy as dark meat. Maybe for good old dark me you baby face. So that's my ask them if we could get a microphone and I said if people don't boo Kofi by the Fourth Week and we've talked four weeks in a row then I'm not good at my job and I shouldn't be here said so that means that you'd be fired so yeah if if I can't talk well enough I'm not good enough on the microphone. Phone to make them boo Kofi Kingston. Who you think? Is this consummate baby. Face will never be booed then. I don't deserve to have this job. And you got seventy dudes and annexed. He that should have spot. It goes all all right. We'll talk tonight. That's when we started getting those entering promos and then I we came back. I remember where they kind of boo me a little bit. Because they liked him too and then they wouldn't be second week same thing third week. I think I talked the talk. And then when you get there might be a little bit as I mean I remember. We walked in the back convince stood up from from behind. The Monitor shook his head like an approval Haley. And it's like my job I'm employed. I'm coming million next year and so this is crazy too because so from my perspective to like having been the baby face that I was for so long also had those doubts the black men can i. I don't know if I can get people boomy but I'm never going to be a guy that's gonna come out and just start talking mean and like throwing my weight around I'm like the lightest so so that's not my kind of like. That's not the kind of heat that that I could get but doing this and being obnoxious and being condescending and being hypocritical cool. You know what I'm saying like that I it just it worked perfectly Being able to like turn people working on just the type appeal that was not on the roster in kind of a hill that you don't really. It's not your stereotypical bad guy. Yeah you know we. We grew up in the era of you know stone cold and triple as rock undertaker like all these bad asses. That's what we watched grow. Excuse me sorry go over. Don't forget I'm sorry I didn't mean disrespect but that's the air we grew up in and out of the guys and girls and the research. That's the era that we all grew up in. And so that's kind of what we wanted to marry. Because it's what we saw is like the best list top guys. You know what I mean and so I felt like specifically. Everybody is on the highway on the same highway. They're going to the same place as a traffic jam was. Everybody should and do the same thing. There's a lane to the left that's completely open of being this kind of obnoxious. He'll just way too into their own stuff that still fun but I still hate them They can still get a baby faced team over and I WANNA see these get beat up but I wanna hear them talk because they're kind of funny but I hate these guys at the same time and so uh jumping into that lane. I think was by far the best thing that we could have ever done. Because that wasn't on the show everybody wouldn't be a bad ass will then you just have a show full of the same kind of person. There's no variety. The WSB abused raw smackdown. Annex T to their variety shows give something for everybody and so I feel like US starting to branch. into the hyper positively where it is a noxious and we're gritting our teeth and you know making you clap. Come on guys and people getting to actually do it because that's what quote unquote like. They're supposed to do to the heels. That's really really would really solidified us as a group as like for us to try to be menacing hills isn't going to work and you look at the show and visually so many people were wearing black or they're wearing red and they were out there and the presentation was very similar and I think for us to our visual presentation was always big for us. I think one of the things that I always disliked with tag teams is when they don't look like they're attacking so the fact that we were visually different. We're black we didn't wear red. We were we. Were these More colorful outfits and then they got more obnoxious Che's over time and more colorful was big so you have the visual presentation and we're not going to try to do something that everyone else is doing. And finding your own niche in Funnier Lane. I think doc in not just in wrestling entertainment and life is important. One thing that my Wrestling trainer from back in the day would always told me he's like you have to look different. Because let's say you have tweet one day. Some kid walks by and they sit on the shelf and it looks like all the other wrestling toys. They're not going to get it but if yours has some sort of like crazy colors like rhinestones or this that the superhero zero. Then that's going to be more in your favor when you see our action figures. They're bright pink and blue and purple and so a kid who's walking by. They might not know wrestling they go. Oh whoa this catches your eyes. So wrestling is an COMPASSI thing. There's merchandisers in ring workers offering work. There's extra stuff flying all around the world doing promotional tour so like you. You have to take in account every single aspect of it so that visual component that you were talking about I think something that is super important and really set us apart because if you don't watch wrestling and it's it's on in the living room while you walk by and see us coming out in these crazy colors with the trombone Unicorn one hundred head go. What the Hell is this and you sit down and watch for a second? There's so many people who will say like Oh my God like my girlfriend doesn't watch wrestling. But she loves you guys. Can you just come out there. And like you said come out of this ridiculousness and Unicorn Horns trombones and pancakes and nothing makes sense. You know but it's just all about having fun and we do the same thing with our merchant. Go Out of our way to make sure that are merged like stands out like this a little bit of a non sequitur would do you think we ever had galway he. I don't think so except for that one guy in Atlanta that I don't like you can't tell him I don't know Ohio so there's a guy there's a guy in Atlanta who's always at all the shows and I think the first time that we were new day there he was. He was being a vocal fan. And I didn't think anything of it. Okay brewing cool perfect. But then he started like cursing loudly. And there's like kids but more importantly my mom was like two seats away from him so I popped off and every time we'd like four times in a row I pop off on him to the point where I almost out of the ring and he had to stop me a yellow words at him silly question. Yeah let's go away heat go away. Heat it to me is the kind of heat that makes people not want to watch you. I'll skip this segment because it sucks as opposed to. I WANNA see that bad guy get beat up You WanNa see heels. Give me a good. He didn't WANNA see. Your Hughes SB can I say S.. S You know but I take time to do with it. I asked John Cena. Toda's only say ass. That's a real conversation. Johnson has said you say ask in a Promo when you're ready to fight like I'm going to kick his US right back to the matter. Go Away Heat. Poor Poor Sean. Don wildman gets flack. xbox heat is is what it was when I do. I expect I. I've never I've honestly never heard really. You've never heard the term. No no never never once. Why are you screaming at me? Because I don't believe you. He something never heard the term ex park he. Which language would you like me when you say no one I want one more affirmation? I'll be good. Just tell me one nine. It's hard to believe why very hard to believe the many times right coast coast. Yes it's a very common term but anyways go way he poor shunned. I don't want him to go away woman. I want him to stay. I Love Sean woman when I was in a bowling league when I was in elementary school and he was six in w. w. at the time and I'd S. Y. X. inscribed on my bowling bowl that was my three kids hired so early career. That was my guy. Convene Razor Ramon Tournament crybaby of the year in W magazine. That was my guy ran. Quicker Song Waldman's think it was the The the Wrestlemainia or the hall of fame when he got inducted And my son and I were in the elevator. He happened to be in the elevator with US and my son is looking at him you know. He's got his BANDANA on curly hair. Glasses couple of earrings some bling going on and he gets off on his floor and my son looks and goes daddy is is he. Pirate Talk Odyssey No. He's seen all these books. These stories of pirates than sailing. And now he's looking at like. Oh my God there's one right here and then he didn't say one word when he was in there you know and then he leaves just looks at me and just that Oh my God kids are kids are so honest. I love their honesty and he didn't want to go away and you want to ask him about pirates. They wanted but some goal timber but to get to get back on the point so once we finally finally turned heel. That was really the What I'm looking for? It was a very cathartic moment because then it went from. He's on the show yelling at kids in. Oh I'm GonNa beat up your favorite guy to us at live events looking at kids telling them they should be in summer school taking extra classes Mrs. We know they're not smart now. I miss being able to break thing in and win the business cards berating kids threatening the ground kids. Tell them to sit down on the respect. My my adulthood. I respect my age. How many years older than you? I am respect young child who I don't know sits down a little boy threaten and in the fight kids on tendency to mom on the real we will fight kids yes still that is serious going back to the kinds of feels that we are. Were that the quirky not not super like bad guys by being able to do things like that people understand what wrestling is. If you're listening to this podcast you understand what wrestling is. It is a fantastic entertaining. Haning show done for your enjoyment and so when people are able to to release reality let go have a good time. That's when wrestling's at its finest finest I feel and so us being able to go to these kids and yell at them and the adults in the crowd. They're parents other adults watching this. They're fully getting into this because they see how much we're riling up the the seven year old who's not standing on his chair screaming and our faces hoping that we lose cheering for the good guys like crazy everyone behind them. That's eighteen and up goes. This kid is amazing. Let me do what this is doing to support. Now there's more energy in the crowd for us that's what we're looking for especially wrestling Let's say so because we When something with the prime time players who there were there were there? Were doing all right at the time having matches here having matches there but they were getting into stuff with us for the tag team titles and so being table to be by the Vince and hearing the crowds go from like two losing their mind when titus gets in the ring to blow comeback and then Darren comes back and hits a crazy move but not everybody's screaming even more like that ability to do that as a group is really really something that we have been able to hone and understand how to do. I think getting a great reaction for yourself is less rewarding than getting a great reaction for your baby face opponent. That's what I miss as heels feeling like we could be in the ring with guys who were talented but might not be given the same amount of time or push or whatever it is and then we can work with them and they're getting really good reactions now in the hot tags are dope. NOPE because we're able to set the table. You know that was something that was always very rewarding and I miss it. I'm missing nearly so I had. I had a friend in college. Oh you want to like let someone beat you up like. I don't understand this. Because he was like. I wanted to be like an Olympic runner. He didn't understand the concept of the entertainment. And it's like yeah. Yeah like when I get beat up people cheer because they want this other person to beat me up. That's the story that we've set and like you said to e I miss it because you know me. I just like being an angry like smaller guy because now the baby faces that are bigger than we can toss me around and it's super exciting And so I committed to me when he'll somebody else on one of the things that we to we talk about with. Our success was not just the ability to being able to turn here was big but also getting the rains. Those tight reins off of US helped us a lot. We got more creative control. That's one of the things that I'm very thankful for. It was the fact that I'm not gonNA write right our own promos. I want to say that. But we are given promos and often times when Might not rally our boys while we always considered the fourth member of new day when he left a very early actually left right after we won a title for the first time then he was gone and moved on to other things in Hollywood. He's writing for resident shout out but We had some other writers Gel as well with us and we were able to thankfully with Vince. We're able to get a promo and and say well we don't really care for this So we're not going to say that that that and that So let's go huddle in a room for an hour and we'll oh come up with what we want to say and we said as many times our creative process together is so fun and easy and organic. It's always we'll we'll talk. I don't like when we have a writer. There's three of us. It'd be writer just kind of in in the room and just lingering yeah get yours. It's always easier for us like okay let's the room sequestered away from people and we'll just hash things out and when we talk and we think Oh this is gonNa be good line and then Kobe's able to jump in and tweak align a wood has an idea and then we start are popping ourselves Oh this thing we saw on twitter we throw that in and we start getting on a roll of ways to throw things in that make it more creative and more US and more fun and I don't WanNa take shots anyone book man if just read what was given to us on regular basis by Sudha Saddam talking about the jobs going on credit but man. We've had some real stinkers right so so to to that point which I didn't think we're jumping into but it's it's valid thing now I feel like a lot of people on the Internet. Do talk about that. Make that point and Oh this is bad. This is bad this is bad but I feel like there are certain situations wrestling definitely being the top one. Where if you have someone writing something for you? That doesn't have similar life experiences. or how the same sense of humor or has nothing really like income with you at all. It's a lot harder for them to write in your voice and so I feel like that's something that we definitely ran into you especially with the stick that we were doing when a lot of the other people on the show were doing just bad asses and we keep saying that what I feel writing for someone who was a heel and not the type of fuel like anyone else on the show show you have to change your mindset completely and. I don't think that was happening. It happened for us but not were writing stuff for us so we can change everything. I feel like oftentimes too I hear this term a lot like when they're trying to sell us on this promo it's like. Oh no you would say this because you're this new day that's a like hold on a second. You can't tell me. What new day is I invented this? Ah Yeah you know what I'm saying. We did. You can't tell us how to be us so just let us have our have our process you know and I think You know he who you sound not be named Talking about how much longer the least got for us. oftentimes he would get the promo that we sent back and he read it and then be like. Oh sure Shaw. I don't get it but if they want to do it let them do it because he understood like the fact that we know our characters well enough and we connect with the people. And that's that's all he wants is to make a connection and you know. Have people react in an emotional fashion so To be able to gain that trust from him was like okay now. If anybody wants me to say something I'm not going to say if I don't want to say you know and it takes me a while to get to that point. I remember early in my career. I've said some things on TV. Maybe that like. I thought that I had to do because it was on the paper. And sometimes they'll say well you know. so-and-so approve this so this is now you feel like you have to do it. Because that's what they're telling you that the higher power is you know want you to say so. Now you're in this weird position and then like from a crowd reaction standpoint. People are looking at it and they're watching watching it and they're not connecting with the and they don't understand why but it's because the person who's reading that or reciting or remembering you know recanting. This promo doesn't believe in themselves so you can't deliver fashion. That's believable because you yourself don't don't believe you know ready to when I think about the other parts of my career I think of promos that I got that were in great but also put some of the onus on myself. Because I don't think I was ready at the time to deliver an entertaining. Fashion needed to get better. That's I don't want to put all the onus on creative or no all these problems that were given to because a lot of was I wasn't a very good promo early in my career at all and I had a certain idea of what I wanted to be and serious and gruff and it just didn't work for me so I don't want to put all the emphasis in all the blame on creative. You know because we all have to get better and a lot of guys are just. Aren't that good Talking wise is and it took some time and obviously took some time to to get that long leash. It wasn't an overnight thing one of things. I'm really grateful for which was extremely frustrating. At the time was sitting outside the office office of he who shall not be named for weeks and weeks and weeks but that the help build a report that we were able to go in there because so many people are so nervous To go talk to him. Who are like the walking on eggshells? Have a conversation with your boss. We need to talk about creative. 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Edge Gets His Head Smashed - Thursday NOTSAM Thursday

Notsam Wrestling

48:49 min | 8 months ago

Edge Gets His Head Smashed - Thursday NOTSAM Thursday

"Dan is introducing your your host from New York. Here is Sam Rovers. All right. Let's do it. It's Thursday maybe Friday depending on when you're listening to this. Let's take a second to close this week with an appreciation there. Is Somebody very close to us who deserves to be recognized nine and deserves to be appreciated for excellence in the field of professional wrestling for rising to the occasion occasion. Time in and time out. Whether that's a phrase or not each and every three time this gentleman is called upon. I think it's very very important. Nay Hey I think it is crucial. I think the right now. We must show appreciation for. How good Randall? K Orton is at this pro wrestling thing. I mean this Randy Orton. After all the years that he has been doing this. And let's talk about this okay. How many many people how many people are able to maintain a character? The really while he goes through new waves and ebbs and flows. If you look at Randy Orton he still dude. The we call the viper with those same trunks on going by the same name with the same move and he's been been doing this literally since evolution was a faction he's been doing this since ric flair was still wrestling. He has been doing this since before. Batista retired and then came back and then retired again and is now going into the hall of Fame Randy Orton and still stands strong and he still able to take us on these rides where we actually care air. And while sure he's he's slipped away for pockets of time here in there he's never been gone for an extended period of time. He's never disappeared for years. Only to come back and everybody goes I remember I remember. He has been there the entire time. It is much more difficult to accomplish. What Randy Orton has accomplished without giving the fans years to miss you? He isn't even an ounce of a nostalgia. ACT This is a guy who's able to get fans is interested in what he is doing based on what he's doing today not based on anything he has ever done in his past passed and it is remarkable to see in twenty twenty in the end of two thousand nineteen. I would say that it would have. I would have said that it would have been very difficult to convince me. Did a good guy. Randy Orton was going to be something I cared about when Randy Randy. ORTON got drafted to raw in October. I was like really I thought foolish as I was the randy. Orton was kind of just getting to this place. Where hit accomplished everything he needed to accomplish in his his career and he go out there and when needed still have a good match put a young guy over and enter that phase of Randy Orton written and that phase is very important and I don't disrespect anybody that gets into that phase but that phase is not necessarily the active storyteller phase that phase is not the phase of who knows where this career is going? That phase is we know where this career has gone now. Let's do some cool stuff to put a bow on it. Rainy Ordinance not putting a bow on it. Randy Orton is still going. I didn't think anybody including myself would care about randy. Orton being a good guy on Monday night. Raw He gets drafted and the character starts to change. And he's a good guy all of a sudden and what was even more. All of a sudden was the fact that that I looked at that. Man's face on my television set and I cared about what he was saying and I care about what he was doing and I said. Damn you Randy Orton. You've got me again after all the years of all the dirty underhanded things that you've done I believe in Randy Orton. You've got me again. He goes this year into the royal rumble. We talked about it a little bit on Monday. He's face to face with edge and I'll tell you this when rated R. K. O.. Started working together again. I was excited about it. I was pumped for it. I was here for the little moment when Randy is in his viper position behind edge. Ready to arc. AOM and edge turns around. Like dude and Randy Orton gives him that. Look like a buddy way you on for me. I'm sorry he was basically giving him the the old Scorpion and the frog. Look where edge was the frog that was carrying the Scorpion on his back and the Scorpion Stung the frog. You could tell the story with a snake as well but the Scorpion Stung the frog when they got to the other side the frogs. Why did you do that? He said because I'm a scorpion toward I do randy. Orton gave edge this. Look he said I'm a viper. It's what I do. Edge feigned forgiveness only to eliminate randall by throwing him over the top rope and onto the floor. Edgewood go on not to win the royal rumble. But we would turn on raw not twenty four hours removed with the excitement building all night that tonight we were gonNA hear edges words into a microphone. Now we should also take a moment to talk about how good edges if if you are somebody that is a young professional wrestler or the cares at all about the art of storytelling rolling in wrestling. Pay attention to edge because edges story had already been told before his mouth hidden microphone. And that's not a compliment to the wonderful broadcast team at the WWe that is a compliment to everything everything that exists on edge between his hairline and his chin all over his face when edge walked into the royal rumble and he looked around. Edge hadn't wrestled in nine years. Okay look into the audience of the. WWe Kids are everywhere even adults that are in their people in their twenties. They were watching nine years ago. There were thousands and thousands of people that were watching the royal rumble on Sunday night. That were not watching wrestling when when edge was wrestling the did not quite understand. Why when the immortal words of you think you know me echoed through minute maid park? The crowd gave him the ovation of a lifetime. Who is this guy but went edge? Walked through the the fog and he looked around and you saw that look on his face that said Oh my God after nine years after being told I would never wrestle again after telling the world I would never wrestle again i. I can't believe that I'm here and that everybody still remembers. I can't believe that they all still care. And I can't wait to show all these people what I'm capable of doing in twenty twenty twenty. All of it was said on his face before he even got to the ring once he was in the ring and you saw the shape that he was in you saw his face throughout the entire match. You knew who this guy was. And the mission that he was on edged told the total story. Viewed had no commentary throughout the match at all. You would still know edges entire story watching that because of edges performance and you would understand the friendship and the tension between Randy Orton and edge. Because of the way they worked together in that match it was a thing king of pro wrestling beauty so when edge comes out on raw and the wwe. Does this wonderful wonderful job of building building and building and building throughout the night airing clips of edge edge moments. The reaction action from last night the reaction from the royal rumble over a decade before when he returned the reaction from edge cashing in becoming the ultimate opportunist in two thousand six and cashing in his money in the bank and beating John Cena. I believe in the middle middle of the first decade of the two thousands edge is the number one. He'll and it's because of that moment and everything that happened after that moment so we now have this clear picture of who edges an edge comes out and everything that he is saying on Ron. Monday is backed up by his face by his body language by his emotions is there is not an ounce of in authenticity. The comes off of this guy. You believe everything this guy is saying. All of a sudden a song comes on about a man whose voices in his head counsel him and understand and talk to him. Randy Jordan comes out and because of the expressions on the faces and the words that are said. You feel like you're seeing something special you're feeling like even though edge eliminated Randy Orton the royal rumble. And even though edge sense that rain Yordan was gonna Arc. Ao Him at the Royal L.. Rumble there is this appreciation between these two veterans that have lived entirely different decades edge edge. Who over the last nine years has been at home becoming a family man? Living a were living a life outside of the world of wrestling and Randy Orton who never left and spent those ten years building and building and building a legacy in the wwe that won't fully be appreciated until he's gone. There was a there was a camaraderie. There was a familiarity. There was a friendship in the faces of edge and Randy Orton. That made it hurt that much more. When whom that ARC? Ao came out of nowhere and you might have known. Of course rainy Morton is gonNA turn on edge. Of course we're leading to arrange your niche and you might be saying Sam you know that they were leading to arrange your next match if you listen to your podcast that you tape immediately after the royal rumble even when people are emailing you saying it's going to be going to be edging. Aj Styles you said two hours after the royal rumble match was over over clearly. We're heading towards the Radio Network Mitch and I understand that and you can know that is probably where things are going without knowing where how we're getting there you can know the destination without printing out the MAPQUEST directions for it. Okay okay. You don't have to look down at your. GPS screen you can trust the driver and just look out the window and watch the ride and go. Oh Oh I didn't expect to pass this. That's what we got on raw and the body language of edge first of all to have randy Orton. WHO has made us believe in him? Randy Orton turned baby. Baby face good guy and the crowd believed him. The crowd was behind him. They have that man. Come out on Monday night raw and crush edges skull. We just spent three hours of TV programme explained to everybody that didn't know that edge went away because of his neck and spine edge came out and said he got a second neck. Surgery will welcome back. I'M GONNA crush your head and neck with a steel chair. Hope you're good. The legend killer who became a legend is still killing link legends. The legend killer realized that superstars from his generation are the ones that had become legends. And that doesn't mean that he's above destroying them. I mean talk about a fine. How do you do? That's alleges aside from the Royal Rumble. First physicality on Monday night raw we're GONNA crusher head between two chairs. Hope you're ready for this and I mean every bit of it. I believed and listened to the audience ought to all you have to do is listen to the audience. The same audience that had been cheering Randy Orton Britain for the last two months. Every one of them was booing him. You know how difficult it is in two thousand twenty due to introduce a story to an audience and as soon as the first chapter is closed. You're cheering for the right person. And you're doing the right person you difficult that is as a writer as a performer. It's seldom happens anymore because everybody is so smart. Everybody is so smart and so knows exactly. What's going on that? Even when it's the exact story that they want they still want to show their appreciation for the bad guy in just cheer him or of it. Or if there's one misstep that makes it not quite believable or one flaw law in the storytelling that makes it. Not Quite so ready to boo. The part where. You're supposed to be cheering but it didn't happen. Man Edge is not performing forming. Like a man who's been gone for nine years and Randy Orton is not performing like a man who's putting a bow on his career edge and Randy Orton performing like they stepped out of two thousand nine and just fast forward to two thousand twenty and we haven't seen the match who knows what will happen. But it's amazing. It's been amazing to see their performance in the royal rumble leading to their performance on raw many times. Rosie Roy Z. Three hour show. It is a very long show many times after Monday night raw. I go to bed and I have a feeling in the pit of my stomach. I don't like when wrestling doesn't live up to my standards. I professional wrestling is the first passionate in my life. I love in my life. I think it's aside from my parents and aside aside from my siblings. Professional wrestling is the thing that I've cared about in my life longer longer than literally anything else because there's nothing in the entertainment world on this planet that is better than good pro wrestling. And that's why when I get through a three hour episode of Monday night raw and at the end of it I'm feeling either may or that. I have a pinned my stomach. I don't sleep well I sit there going. Come on guys really there so many reactions you can have met and and black but at the same time and this is how I know. I'm the exact same fan that I've always been when I get a Finnish like we got on Monday night raw this week and that's that's what I see when I turn off my TV at eleven pm overrun eleven o seven. Maybe I'm jazzed man. I feel the energy. I'm sitting there going. Oh my God. We've got a story story coming off of Monday night raw. I knew just like many years in the past starting with the royal rumble and heading into Wrestlemainia. This is going to be a fun ride and what really drove that home was that edge versus Randy. Orton segment I badly WANNA see edge versus Randy Orton and when edge came back at the royal rumble. I said I don't really WANNA see edge versus Randy Orton to myself. I said I said I like Randy Orton. I like edge. I've seen edge versus Randy ORTON. You know what I haven't seen edge versus seth rollins ED's edge versus Roman reigns edge versus Kevin Owens edge versus Samoa. Oh a Joe. Edge versus Barron Corbin edge versus Daniel Bryan there are a lot edge versus versus the fien edge versus brock listener. There's lots of edge matches that I haven't seen the last last nine years have made a compelling case for however the segment on raw where randy orton crushed edges. Face face was so good made me realize that none of those compelling cases can hold a candle to the case of what about edge versus Randy Orton edge versus randy. Orton has become the match. That I WANNA see. And I have full faith the between now and Wrestlemainia the desire amongst me and all the other. WWe Fans is only gonNA get raised and raised and raised and raced. And that's because of the faith. Eighth that Randy Orton and edge both gave to me on Monday night raw now. Of course you know we don't know and thank you for allowing me my However long that was twenty minutes to appreciate Randy Orton? But we don't know we don't know sway we. Don't we know for sure that that matches happening. Wrestlemainia you know keep in mind. Super showdown is happening. At the end of February I believe and and one would have to believe that is going to have imagined super showdown. You could make a strong argument that Ed should not have a match before Wrestlemainia Wrestlemainia. You could make a very strong argument. The what's going to make the Randy Orton edge match special is is its edges first singles match back in the wwe and you know depending on what you read on the Internet. I they said edges signed on to do this many matches and this many TV appearances but depending on money. Now they're saying that could be wrong. It could be this. It could be that nobody knows. Come on nobody Renault's the just heard this. Maybe this may be that. Nobody knows what EJ schedule actually looks like. And maybe it's a little title up in the air. But if he does have a match at suber showdown I would hope between now and then Randy Orton makes a friend with somebody. And that's it's the person that edge faces. I do not want to see Randy I wanNA see. Reindeer and versus Edgy Wrestlemainia. My preference is to see edges first match back versus Randy. Or I think I think the way you do this beautifully is you have edge versus Randy Orton at wrestlemainia mania edges first match back in. WWE and over the next couple of weeks. Play it up like we don't know we're going to see edge back that that already fragile neck edge of edges was horribly brutalized by one Randy Orton. We don't know we're we're GONNA see him back but eventually we'll get there and eventually he will be back. I mean maybe you even have Randy Orton have a match at super showdown and have edged interfere. You know have edge go all the way to Saudi Arabia. Just just to do the run in and Spear Randy Orton. And that's the first time you've seen him since the royal rumble. You might have something there and then spend the month between February twenty seventh and Wrestlemainia Samania thirty six. That's the month that you spend building Randy Orton versus edge. Probably the way I would do it to get the most bang for your buck out of everything. I would then have edges second match. Be the Monday night Roy. After wrestlemainia Ed's wrestle Wrestlemainia and then have him wrestle again. The Monday after Wrestlemainia. And that's not to say hey. World Edge is going to be wrestling living on raw every single week but let the world know that edge is back in. WWe He's not just here for wrestlemainia season and it really drives home. Hey guys is this is the raw after Wrestlemainia. This is it. You know because I don't know what the tradition is going to be for. smackdown coming off Wrestlemainia now. Now that smackdown is back to Friday's I can't see the smackdown after wrestlemainia being that big of a deal it seems like because you know the way you're looking at at it is wrestlemainia weekend. Oh I wonder if they're gonNA turn Wrestlemainia into a two day show. It's a five day show. You're looking at Wrestlemainia. In Tampa as smackdown smackdown no as hall of fame smackdown takeover wrestlemainia raw. So I would think the smackdown before Wrestlemainia is going to become the big smackdown of the year and the raw after Wrestlemainia is is GonNA maintain and continue to be the big raw of the year. I would think that makes sense to me but that would be where I would put edges second match. I would have the edge. Have a singles match or maybe even a tag match because it's raw on the raw after Wrestlemania and then go from there you know if edges dates are limited keep off TV v. for a while and bring him back. April made bring back for money in the bank. That would really be interesting if you had edge wrestler wrestlemainia against Randy Orton. Wrestle the Monday after Wrestlemainia and then come back to announce he's going to be in the money in the bank ladder match the guy who made the money in the bank briefcase famous edge to me still the most famous money in the bank briefcase holder. Of all time I would put I'd say edge. Then Seth rollins then Bronco. I'm just kidding edge seth rollins then maybe seeing and punk maybe. RV D after that. That's where you can start. You know maybe we will have that conversation closer to money in the bank but I think that would be that would be the move to make but needless to say I thought I thought you had to barn burner segments this week so far and we haven't even gotten to smackdown you add if you're not excited about what's going on. WWe Right now. Check your pulse because you probably passed away you had that segment ending raw on a on a raw. That was a good raw by the way lots of stuff happening on raw is it by. MVP coming back. Having he's announced by the way went on twitter and he announced that that was his last. WWe match your new broadcast team on raw. There are rumors that MVP is trying to get into a backstage stage role. Which I think he'd be great at? I love seeing the generation. I don't even say at this point. It's not even the generation that we grew up with my. It's not my generation that I grew up with the generation just after it. You know it's that it's the guys that were wrestling in the early two thousands that are now coming around and becoming agents and producers and stuff like that and I think I think. MVP great for that job But it was great to see him at the Royal Rumble. It was even cooler to see him have a one on one match with Rey ministerial on in raw and let his. WWe career and their Drew McIntyre segment was cool loved the tension between him and Brock love that they've already announced it's coming from WRESTLEMAINIA and they're building it all the way there charlotte coming out not announcing her opponent. Going full he'll so so funny. I was talking to my trainer at the gym. WHO has been watching wrestling since May so I find her to be great gauge on things? And I'm like you know just to keep your your eyes open because sometimes you know I'll I'll tell her things from my my point of wisdom the years of experience watching wrestling. That's left me quite the expert and I said you know. Charlotte is going to pick her opponent after she won the royal rumble. You know I I think she's GonNa pick rea- Ripley. Yeah and she was like yeah. That's what I figured. So that is out there in the ether. I think that that's the right move. Move to make I love the idea of Charlotte for the NFC championship. I love it for Charlotte. I LOVE IT FOR ANNEX T. I love it for all parties involved. Then you're left with three huge matches inches charlotte versus rea- Ripley because Bianca Bel Air. I mean amazing appearance in the Royal. Rumble she's right there. She's a million William Times best. She only improves improves improves. She ain't beaten Real Ripley in Portland. So rea- Ripley versus Charlotte. I would still do a Sasha banks versus Bailey match and then Becky Lynch I dunno maybe Ronda Rousey back probably Shayna Bazeley. There are more realistically Becky. Lynn versus Shayna baseler. If those are three if you have all three of those women's matches at that show you got three main event caliber women's matches at Wrestlemania. That's a big deal So yeah so you had that excellent episode of raw with a great closing using segment. Then take your day of Tuesday's arrests take a breath. You game amazing. Royal Rumble humble good raw take a breath turn on T- on Wednesday night and the segment between Adam Cole and Tomasz Champa was just one for the ages. I mean you just watch that and the segment by itself. I texted my producer hotdog immediately. I said hot dog. If you're not watching annex t right now make sure you watch this segment. It was so good and this is what he needs a lot. More of annex annex t needs a lot more of these juicy story driven segments the idea of CIAMPA coming out with a lead pipe laying out the entire undisputed era Rigas disgusted. I loved them. Regal is the only general manager in history to maintain not being a heel or a baby face. William Regal is the only GM in history. Since Jack Tunney that's been able to simply be on on the side of law and order and Jack Tunney you. I know you just said the GM in history. Since Jack Tunney Jack Tunney wasn't GM he was the president says the GM has has been a thing there has not been an authority figure called GM in history. There's been on the side of law and order the way William Regal Dallas. Not a baby faced. Not A. He'll coming out there. He's pissed the CIAMPA just laid out his tag team champions and Roderick strong when he didn't have have to and I love that they're not making Adam. Cole this chicken. He'll that Adam Cole went to William Regal and said I don't care who I'm facing because I don't know of anybody told you but in the last year I've become a superstar and I can beat anybody on the annexed he roster. Her Ciampi didn't have to do that and then to have CIAMPA Put Adam Cole through the table. Even though Adam calls the one that took a cheap shot at him and the instinct of that tomato Champa. Obviously he didn't know he was going to bleed. He didn't bleed on purpose but the crowd is chanting. You're bleeding or whatever they were chanting something thing in reference to blood and you know it was instinct. 'cause he already signed it with his pen and then he goes. Oh yeah and he wipes the blood off that hat and he swipes it down on the contract I was like this is just brilliant. This is just brilliant and it's a risky position to be. Here's the thing when you have multiple people. I mean realistically at least five people that you could make the case should have a championship match with Adam Cole at takeover. You know I mean they're being replaced in other matches. But you still got a main of that roster an annex t where where you got people waiting you know you got. You're sitting there. I know you gave keithly the North American Championship. But he's clearly clearly the biggest good guy in the company. I mean he is Adam. Cole and Keith Lee are your two standouts in annex t right now and it's really interesting interesting that instead of making them combatants. They made them your two champions. I liked it. I think it's pretty smart. But you see this go down between chopper and Adam Cole. And after this segment it's just like the rain. Your niche edge segment. Nobody sitting there going man. I wish it'd been keithly. I know he's fighting Gargano. No but I wish Imbalance is getting the title shot. I wish velveteen dream was coming back. man I was hoping the riddle would lose in the dusty classic so they can get a shot at Adam Cole. No you're going that's the match I wanna see because of that segment and I think Annex T. NFC has wrestling laying down on lock. Annex T has the best wrestling matches in the world anywhere in the world not just in America. They don't have enough good stories though they need more story heavy segments the way that contract signing was and I believe if you did that you'd have more is on the show you'd have more people feeling the the thing about a wrestling match. A really good wrestling match is while it's cool to see live. There's not as much immediacy you see to it as a storyline. Look if you tell me. There's a really great match going on between Matt Riddle and Pete done in the Grizzle Young veterans then. I'll go okay cool. I'll remember that and I'll watch the match later. You can watch a great match later because it's not necessarily even about who wins and loses but look at the Lana rousseff story though the wedding the wedding segment that that everybody said his garbage people were literally turning it on. I turned it on because I saw on twitter that it was happening and so ridiculous. I got to see it. I'm not advocating the U. of segments like the roots have Lana wedding happening in Annex T. I think the next he needs to be done a little bit more seriously but I do. I think that if I find out there's an amazing segment going on between CIAMPA Adam Cole. Right now or there's an amazing match going on between them right now. I'm more likely to watch the match later than I am to watch the story driven segment later and the story driven segment is only GonNa make it so that the match feels like a bigger deal when it finally happens. That's why I think it's important that annex t tell those stories but look look at what you've got lined up. We got two weeks from Sunday is takeover Portland. Adam Co versus Tomasz. Oh CIAMPA is your next championship. APN ship match rea- RIVOLI versus Bianca. Bel Air is your annex t championship match. And they've done such a good job much much better than last January when I said it was a waste of a match to put Bianca Bel Air in the championship scene with China Baseler at making Bianca Onto Belair a threat and a credible threat. Having her do what she did in the royal rumble having her dominate week after week. An annex t television now all of a sudden this is a must see match your Tag Team Championship match the undisputed era versus the browser Sir weights. And I mean I think Matt Riddle has been struggling to find his niche on an x t television. He's real good at drumming up a ton of buzz on social media. But here's the thing with Matt Riddle. He's so good and making people WanNa see a match with Goldberg Matt Riddle a match with brock listener and that riddle if he could take that energy and put it towards people that are actually in an x t that we could put that match on takeover within a month or two you might be onto something imagine if Matt Riddle Kaput that kind of energy into making us want to see him versus Keith Lee and thinking it was real in a Magnus Wanna see him versus roddy strong and thinking that it was real. That's what Matt Matt Riddle should be doing with his social media. He should be going. After guys in annexed t that are not even in a storyline with him and having a storyline. Start there where you go. Oh Man I think there's real heat between these guys you know. I think when Ciampa took that shot at riddle on twitter. Let's keep going with it. Because that's a match. We can actually see CIAMPA versus riddle as a few months back is in October. I think but I do think that he's drug gold in his tag team partnership with Pete Done I think I I think that the combination of the two of them with Pete downplaying the straight man an and then we're finally getting some references to you know a joint manipulation and people being blunt and all all this stuff you're kind of Bringing some of that personality from the Independence back into Matt riddle that everybody is super aware of you. Know especially in annexed where you're GONNA a targeting an older audience maybe older demographic. Maybe yeah I think the partnership with Pedone is probably the best thing that Matt Riddle has done in X T. I don't know if it's undisputed era level but I think it's the best the best thing he's done do you any and I think it's a good look for pedone two. You Know Pete done while he hasn't had anything even close to a strikeout connects T. He's got to figure out where he fits on the main roster the this this tag team is good for both guys and then let's let's not forget you've also got a singles match grudge match I love on these takeovers when there is a singles match again. I'm going back to the stories but with the story behind it. I love a good good grudge match and you don't see him that often takeovers when it's not a title on the line because what are you have takeovers generally what five matches maybe baby and you're trying to fit as much talent as possible to have a one on one match with no title online. You really gotTa have something there. And I think thin Ballard Alor versus Johnny Gargano is going to be big. I love the Ballard hasn't wrestling. TV every week that it's an event when he wrestles. It's a specialty when he wrestles. He's is a big starting. Feels like a big star and you know the fact that he injured Gargano. I think it's only going to play into the story. I don't know if you actually Actually actually injured him. I Know Gargano got injured. But that's only gonNA play into this whole story and lead into that match but those four matches being out for takeover Portland I mean that takeover is going to smack. That is going to be an amazing show. uh-huh already I would imagine that they'll add at least one more match to it. A keithly has got to be on that. Show defending the North American Championship You know I love Rodrick strong. I would probably leave him off because I think that you really WanNa put all that undisputed disputed energy into the coal CIAMPA match. I know you've got the undisputed guys in the browser. Wait match with the tag for the tag titles on the line but you know really I I think I think roderick strong's influence needs to be felt in that championship match between call in Champa. So you know with two weeks. I left to build up to North American championship match. I guess you know you look at Dominic di Jakovic who beat Damian priest known in some circles as Damien Archer on this week and I guess he start going. Okay we're GONNA do a Dominic di Jakovic keithly takeover match. Their matches are good. They're matches were excellent on on annexed. TV But I really. I really think the world of of Damian Priest and I would love to see Damian priest I vs keithly. Maybe they're gonNA save that. Maybe we'll do it down the line. I think there's a lot of upside to this This Damian priests character. I don't know if he needs to be shooting. Imaginary bows and Arrows Arrows at the wall and whatnot and I think we could probably drop that Sooner than later. But I think the world of him and I I would love to see see him getting the opportunity that North American Championship At takeover so but I'm very very excited looking towards An xt takeover Portland. I think it's going to be really really really good Also as we look towards smackdown I have to believe Naomi's return turn at the royal rumble. Made a bigger splash than even I thought I thought it was a it seemed to penetrate outside of the world wrestling which I knew the wrestling fans would be super excited to see Naomi back. I did not realize realize that it would make as big a deal outside of wrestling is it. Did I have to imagine that Naomi is coming back to smackdown this week. And she's going to be a pretty major player on smackdown going forward when I say I have to imagine that it's because I hope so because you know I thought her royal rumble. Return made a huge splash and And I think that that's the spot for her showing up on smackdown and doing the thing. Also there's a big story this week like you know the wwe a version of the fiends universal championship and charge seven. One Thousand Dollars Ford or something like that and they have put out the fiends universal championship. Now cost like four hundred bucks and people are like imagine and everybody that paid seven thousand dollars stupid. It's a different product. They didn't take the same thing and market down to four hundred dollars dollars. Then you think that they made a product that you could feasibly sell for four hundred dollars and said what if we could make sixty five hundred dollars profit offit on each one. No of course they didn't do that. The five thousand or seven thousand dollar version or whatever it was that was actually being designed in Tom. Savini studios not as a replica of the title designed by. Tom Tom Savini. This was being this. I mean it was basically you were getting a version of the title. The fiend uses on television the four onder dollar. One is the replica title. If you take a replica championship from wwe shop. It's amazing if you hold it next to an actual actual title that is held by a superstar on television. There is no mystery as to which is the replica. And which is the authentic version whatsoever. There is no mystery as to which title was would cost thousands of dollars in which title costs four hundred. It is apparent immediately upon eyesight eyesight. You don't need a leg diamond loot or whatever those little Magnifying glasses that they put up to one. I called you. Don't eat anything. It's very very clear. The title that now cost about four hundred dollars is the replica. Version of the title at the fiend has. I am not advocating for for a four seven thousand dollar purchase of a fiend universal championship. But if you think that it's the exact same product now marked mark down one hundred fifty thousand percent. I got a bridge to sell you. Your fool is what. I'm trying to say an absolute fool. Fool all right. I think we got a couple emails. 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The Return of Edge

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The Return of Edge

"If you don't know Sirius. XM THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They have it all and right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just US one dollar go to SIRIUSXM DOT com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe offer available to new series. Xm streaming subscribers SIRIUSXM. No car required. This is the busted open podcast. You can listen to the full show Monday through Saturday from nine. AM to noon eastern on Sirius. Xm Channel One fifty six welcome to the busted open podcast. This is Dave La Greco. Today's episode so the innovator of violence the landlord of a house of Hardcore Tommy Dreamer I go back to the rumble and Monday night. Raw drew McIntyre wins the royal rumble. He's on the road to Wrestlemainia. Punched his ticket to Tampa Wrestlemainia. Thirty six time gives his take on drew winning the rumble. Also talk about edge edge. Return Tommy has a great take on the return of his friend edge. Plus we get into the attack from Randy or in on Monday night raw also love. We play a little audio from. WWe backstage with Christian talk about his friend edge and we talk about benedict fully. That's right our very own. Bully Ray on the bump going head to head the Wednesday morning. Moore's have begun right here on the busted open. Podcast we know. Our main ain't event for Wrestlemania thirty six brock listener and drew McIntyre. Yeah you had asked me. My favorite I said drew McIntyre aggie tire. You said like three of your favorites to win it and I don't forget I'm a real broadcaster. If I would've said Oh I wanted Keith. Lead a win like Siham punk punk did he or he who feel should win. You know it's like you know Sports Broadcasting Never admit when they're wrong or hey but you release were played the politically. They they were you pick three. I pig drew very very happy. That he wanted and Wrestlemainia we're on the road to Wrestlemania and already feels exciting. I thought it was a they. Did it up great with you know a lot of fans and myself yourself. We're talking about what they were going to do with brock listener coming in number one and and When drew came in and got rid of him the place exploded a really dead? And you're right about now being excited for Wrestlemainia thirty six because I gotta be honest before the Royal Rumble on Sunday. I didn't really have high hopes. Now I know the WWe always knows when the turn the light switch on and get you excited excited for something as big as Wrestlemainia. But I didn't know where they were going to get go. I just didn't have a lot of juice going in to the royal rumble but man coming out. I couldn't be more excited for Wrestlemainia thirty six in Tampa and I think this is a really good matchup between brock listener and drew McIntyre. I mean drew McIntyre is somebody when you see him in the ring facing somebody like brock it looks like a credible opponent and I can also see drew McIntyre beating brock listener at Wrestlemainia. Thirty six. I can also see this being a feud that continues for quite some time. I'm very excited about not just this but other things that we saw at the rumble on Sunday. Yeah Let me tell you drew. I was new drew when he first came up. in WWe. I had wrestled drew They were had big plans for him. a longtime ago. Remember he was kind of like the handpick chosen person and then that fell the wayside to the point where he was actually let go by. WWe And you you look at someone one who looks the way he looks but it was like go out there find yourself and I will. I was the one who got him hired here an impact wrestling. He had a nice nice little run from self but what he did was he went out there and he worked everywhere he worked over in the UK he he continued on this path to better her himself and then when he came back to wwe it was. I'll continue that path he got sidetracked with a little injury. But now you know they saw this this in him again and he hasn't led us down you know and that's through hard work and all that stuff going in and they're putting the rocket on him and hopefully it continues to Wrestlemainia wrestlemainia and Going into like I remember our broadcast from last week. We both were a little down on the royal rumble. Because we wanted wanted we expected some more but yes like we always say and bully Ray Says you know the the wrestler's will never let us down and a show like that really really good you could also tell by just the fans reactions and To the point of when edge returned they actually just sh- kept showing the fans reactions and they were missing his actual in rings to never never have ever seen like W W offer up alternative footage of edges return. Because maybe in the truck they were so excited to see what was going on and both royal rumbles gave us a lot of moments and going back to drew McIntyre for just a second. Tommy I mean you talk about maturing and he definitely has done that when they had that whole gimmick where he was the chosen one you know he was twenty three twenty four years old. That's going back to two thousand and nine for crying out loud like that's a lot to put on somebody buddy that young and I'm sure he's made some mistakes and maybe you know they could have done some better things with him as well and then he hit the bottom of bottoms. He was part of the ultimate gimmick with the three man band. And being part of that and like you said then moving on from the wwe and kind of read defining himself as you said with TNA with impact wrestling wrestling. And I think that really helped him a lot not only to the maturity level but also in rang. I mean when you look at drew McIntyre in ring his presence. It's completely different than what it was ten years ago. It's it's growing Point and it's it's growing up and growing growing up in the. WWe Is one thing but then losing or thinking your dream is over but they were also straight up to him and said go reinvent yourself self and he did that and then he came back news were rewarded and if you think about you know the whole three MVP Band that he was in If you WanNa talk talk about where. His career was someone who returned at the slam. Me's Tommy Dreamer defeated that team. And here's an outside person that doesn't work worked there with myself Alburto and ms we defeated him. So how low of lows are is your creative when Tommy Dreamer is coming in and scoring you you know and get the victory. They made me tag out but still But then he also talked about and he's talked about this his maturity level and appreciate it more and almost almost getting lazy and you know he's shown pictures of his body. Where a they're not doing anything with me? I'm not gonNA work out as hard. No that's when you have to work harder and and you know there's a guy out there who did pretty good from self as names the rockets out work everybody in the room. And you have to do things like that sometimes. And it's that competitive of nature that people it's hard to understand but it's that competitive nature where you just catch somebody's eye and you know boom. He's a made man in in Scotland now no matter what he does I mean he's won the royal rumble continued to hopefully be the face of the company. And if I'm looking at this match I enjoyed brock's performance. I saw something that I never thought I'd see and Brock Broccoli winded. And he wasn't you know out there for a long time if I'm using strategy if I'm drew McIntyre I'm going to try to match a lot longer who's brock look winded. Brock did not look like a guy who Was the Brock Leshner. Mister Monster towards you know I would say ten ten competitors in. And he wasn't doing a whole heck of a lot of wrestling. Who's doing a whole heck of a lot of eliminating but once a again man? When drew came in got rid of the place exploded was they said while we may see something new and hopefully that trend continues? It's going to Wrestlemainia. You know you mentioned brock and I wanna get I wanna get to brock in just a second because you said something. That's very interesting that I was thinking the same thing. When I saw him in the ring on Sunday but withdrew and him winning and now you know punching his ticket to Wrestlemainia being in that main event against brock? What do you think was going through? Drew's head in that moment because there had to be so much. Here's a guy who hit the lows left a wwe you know just before Wrestlemainia thirty three getting the phone phone call that he was going back to the wwe and being a part of annex t not knowing what the future was going to hold for him and then knowing that the company is one hundred percent behind you that they're putting you in a main event match at Wrestlemania and having you win the rumble. I mean what kind of moment do you think was that for. Ju What do you think might have been going through. Drew's head urine. I don't WanNA say your life flashes but it's so rewarding for your hard work Especially when you're in the WWE when You Know Bubba always says you know you're chasing the hug. There's so many times every debit every superstar wants to be champion. They really do and the reality is that not. Every single wrestler in the wwe will be champion and that's the predetermined termine part of professional wrestling. Someone else says hey. I want this person to represent my company but when we talk about moment there's all these like little little gratifying things like for me when you know I won the e C W Title I I remember I left the venue to go Out Side just to call my family and my daughter's like daddy like we're so proud of you and I really didn't win I didn't like beat up a man for tidal title but it was just like this such satisfying like wow they saw in me and you know we're talking about the super bowl with these people who are playing a game a real Game for their entire since their kids and they have their dream at their grasp and they can achieve it. If another but it's another person's job on the other side of the field who wants to achieve the same dream in wrestling. It's a little different but when you have that moment it's it's so satisfying like wow and to me. It's then my next goal is to win the title and then my next goal is I need those ratings to continue to we up there are so many and like I still make goals for myself. And I know there's rousers who were pre so determined to be the best and strive to be the best. And when I say it's predetermined the outcomes are but you know who it's not predetermined to the fans and that's why I always went out there and worked so so hard because no matter what minutes I had to go out there and perform I was going to bust my ass win. Loser draw mainly lose but so the fans could be entertained and that's our jobs but as a wwe superstar as an independent wrestler as a wrestler. That's what we do. If it's my job to make someone looked better because the company believes in them more cool because it was a real fight. Maybe I would have beaten up more than half the people that I wrestled. But that's not my job because if not I'd be in the UFC you know that's true and you mentioned that drew side of things talk about the company's side things like talk about the wwe making the decision. Go with drew McIntyre. Because you know to have you win the Royal Rumble and we've seen a lot of royal rumble of victims and Victor's. There's when it comes to the last couple of decades and if you really look at the list Alex mets and I did this Last week we kind of went through all the winners of the rumble. Like the last ten years not got a lot of surprise is not a lot of new names. You know a lot of the names that you've you know you've seen before this is completely out of left field because I think a lot of people pick. Nick drew McIntyre. But you would agree that this is kind of a leap of faith when it comes to the wwe talk a little bit about. Tommy like accompany getting behind hindes. Somebody like drew McIntyre because you know Roman would have been an easy choice randy or and would have been an easy choice but you know talk about the confidence level that they they have for drew to have him win the rumble and then being a main event match against brock listener. You're looking to sell a a stadium. You're looking for the poster. It's the main event. It's the marquee matchup that you're trying to bottom line. Sell Tickets Sell Network subscriptions and the paper views still exist cell pay per views. And if you're talking you made a great point two points one. You're talking about winners. The past if you looked at drew McIntyre and we talk about maturity. His work was not there. I was actually on the first ever live event that he was on against Jimmy. A young and Jimmy Yang knocked him the hell out and he had a severe concussion a long time ago. He didn't remember his name. He remembered anything and this was his first live event and it was Kinda like I don't WanNa say his fault but it was. He could have done something different to protect himself that maturity level when when you looked at the final four in that ring and wwe. When I it was beautiful it was actually like you got to experience what wrestling wrestling fans have clamored for a special deputy for a while? You can listen to the crowd when edge came in. And we'll talk about that but the rumbling but if you you look at those final four those final three were all names from the past and though Randy Orton is still on top of his game. Roman reigns Roman reigns. Means every Friday. Night is getting these amazing reactions. When Roman reigns came to the ring he was getting these amazing reactions? His match with Baron Corbin Great Match Atun amazing reactions and then all of a sudden when we had the final four. They're doing nothing on on. I talked about one of my favorite moments was Shawn michaels versus the undertaker undertaker in San Antonio and they're doing nothing after seeing twenty six men in that match four remaining and the fans. Start chanting. This this is awesome. And they're doing nothing because they're realizing wow how special we have the return of edge could edge and all these guys could be main eventers of Wrestlemainia and this is our our love and passion for professional wrestling and then when edge got rid of Randy all of a sudden when that was edge and Roman reigns. If you've listened to to the crowd the people then start chant booing because of like. Please don't go with Roman again. So here's a guy who we love a guy who battled back from cancer but then the fans are like. Oh wait a minute please. Don't give us again. We don't want to see this again. We don't want to see and the simple menace of them teetering on the Apron it was amazing storytelling storytelling and then finally when we got the false finishes or the false eliminations. What a wild ride took us on? It was a movie it was a perfectly written story and then the happy ending finally happened withdrew winning but if it was straight up listening and when we you know older wrestlers will tell you about out just listened to the audience or waiting timing. You all got to experience that live if you were there and as well as you're watching on the network kind of like a perfect setting or if you could be in the mind of Tommy Dreamer or of an edge or Randy Orton. A Roman reigns. It was like wow. This is like it was the closest I got to feeling something live watching because of the great storytelling that was being had Mike. What you're hearing catch busted open live Monday through Saturday from nine? Am To noon eastern eastern on Sirius Xm fight nation in one fifty six four on demand with this series Xm APP. I know you listen to this show intently but I know you've also also been very busy. Man I wanted to Rosa and actually what I want I get because it's the David Greco power rankings. So I had fun to rose at five. He thought it should be Jon on Moxley for winning a number one contender's match on Wednesday night. Don't you feel winning a championship. Trump's somebody winning a number one contender ships match. Well they both won matches but yes one actually won the title as opposed to the other person. Who's winning the opportunity to win? That's right so If Jon Moxley wins that title than he should be on your parents. Oh I get to listen to the show I apologize. What were your rankings? Do you remember number five thunder Arosa number five was stunned. AROSA number four was Becky Lynch number three was defined Bray Y number two is Charlotte flaring. There are a number one was who we just spoke about. Drew McIntyre and Tommy Absent from those. That list would be Jon Moxley on the number one contender ship for Chris. Jericho's AWA number seven Kenny Omega and hangman. Adam page who on the for the Awa tag team champion numbers ever Awa title change. uh-huh by the way Keith Lee. Who on the next North American Championship on Annex Number Six? Wow yeah well. Hey it's his power rankings. I can see that but To his point he won. This is her first title on a major your platform. I know he's also begging for Thunder Rosa Calendar. I could drive up to our house if you wanted to try to steal one for you. She didn't want so it's not like I make my decisions based on what the people give me because people don't give me anything but grief and shit on drew McIntyre one who was to Charlotte flare you might revert vern daughter of Ric flair when the rumble on Sunday. Three Bray Wyatt the fiend. Your universal champion number. Four was Becky Lynn Role. Women's champion a number five year N W A women's champion Thunder Rosa. I would I would agree with your rank. Your power rankings. uh-huh I I am a little about the return of edge. I think that would be up there. But you know what he didn't win the Royal Rumble. But and then he was taken out after that but that would be my only critique of your rumbles. Good job of your ratings jobs thank you. Let's let's get to what's really really important and it's not my power rankings or bully. Ray's appearance on the bump. Later this morning we'll get into that at some point as well It is the return of edge. And we're GONNA get into a second. We'll get into what took place on Monday night but let's go back to the return of edge. Obviously a huge. Did you showing like you said at the rumble. I mean the I think the place was shaking when he came out at the royal rumble. Tommy I mean I mean I just the place he's popped. I mean I mean even even bigger than what we saw at the end with drew McIntyre when an just just an amazing moment for edge on Sunday absolutely and I will confess to a lot of fans I'm super duper close with edge. He had confided in me a long time ago that he was going back to. WWE Kinda laid some foundation kind of fantasy booking with each other and number one one when we talk about. There's a friendship that I love the guy and I would never betray that friendship For whatever rumor rumor speculation anything that comes out there and also I don't WanNa say I always open up Christmas presents on Christmas not on Christmas Eve and for when there was speculation. Going on around or all the social media buzz about it. Why why I know we liked to guess ask about it or even spoilers I cannot stand them so I've never going to one ruin? I wish he never told me because I wanted to. Let's see I wasn't sure he was going to debut at the rumble but that was what was on the table. But when you're and I'll talk about My relationship with Bubba to and bubble bubble returned at the Royal Rumble He literally calm texts. Me and wrote Fatty. Did you see what you think. And are Oh congratulations nations. And he's I talk to you later and here's a guy. I talked to like all the time that is how we are as professional wrestlers. who also have respect for our selves and our industry? And it's so close to the vest when I return to the WWE And I've told the story before when we talk about when when I went to Russell with drew McIntyre you know at the slam. He's I literally was driving home from the gym. And then triple h had called me and then he was okay. You WanNa come to Philly to wrestle tonight and I'm like Okay bubble will blah. The only person I told at that time was Beulah and just kept it under wraps and even when I get there like then people in the company to hey are you you here. I was hiding. I was hiding in a bus and it was just so that element of surprise. I don't feel it's deceiving the fans because the end result is wow I got to see something special We joke about it but I was never so mad and I still we talk about it like when I did not get tickets to the Omni to see buzz sawyer versus Tommy rich and I got a millennial Falcon millennial a hell of a gift. But I wanted something else and I knew I was also getting the Millennium Falcon because I found by Christmas present before it was Christmas. So that's kind of always been my philosophy about keeping stuff under wraps and if anybody's out there listening that works for wwe. And if you've ever leaked out a spoiler alert and you're not a wrestler or your You have news and confidentiality. There are so many ways to find Out and if it was my company I would fire you quicker than I could fire anybody else and if it was my justice I would Singapore cane you out the door or as hard as I can many many times because to me it ruins it for the fans and there's no payoff for that to say. Hey by the way. This person is confirmed to be there. There's no payoff for it. So that's that now getting angry. No San Diego I gotTa Chill The Sun. His rising over the mountains. It's beautiful I live in the Hoya GonNa go surfing. You know what it's IT'S A. I'm I'M GONNA try to say I'm I'M GONNA try to be the same as you and and stay. They come because it's something that's obviously a bit of a virus throughout the whole wrestling community. Tommy where you know and people talk about about the dirt sheets and like I don't know there's a lot of credible websites out there that I go to when preparing for this show the get information shen and stats and such. You know to help me along with the narrative while we're talking about these certain issues but one thing that Doug Morton and I declared glared early on in this show is that we're not GonNa do spoilers and you never hear on busted open a spoiling an outcome of a match at a TV v Taping. You know we never go into any of those things at all. That's not something that we wanted wanted to do. And it's something that I do not want to do on this show. I'll never understand why you know. Certain writers feel the need to spoil things and we see it all the time. You know storylines. I said. I'm sure people like you. Tommy work very very hard on there. Is You know. Obviously a staff of writers such that put something together that I have a theme and a story that they're working on that takes weeks to work on and will take weeks to play out and then somebody's spoils it. You know for everybody. Everybody and then honestly completely ruins the surprise and leading up to what we saw on Sunday at the royal rumble. I saw a ton of spoilers spoilers that I avoided and I just will never understand. That would be like you know a big movie that you can't wait to see and somebody like sending ending out the script of a movie like you know I'll do something that's very very close to the wrestling community arts and that Star Wars. I'm not I'm not the biggest star wars fan but I know a lot of wrestlers and a lot of writers. Are you know that would be like you know spoiling the script of a movie. You know a week before it came out I will never understand understand why people would enjoy reading it and I would never understand why they feel the need for certain riders to put that stuff out there. If I told you that at the forty niners are going to beat the chiefs on Sunday by the score of thirty eight to thirty five. Would you watch the game. I would not some people might. Some people would just to see if I was correct if I also told you oh by the way One of the forty nine ers is going to get hurt and Jerry. Rice's going to show up and catch a few balls balls. And he's GonNa score a touchdown be cool. That would maybe people watch but it's still the super bowl. Why ruin surprises? Why because it doesn't get that same reaction or you'll just get the person who says oh I knew he was coming and then there the bidder negative person like a straight up Santino I I had heard Santana was confirmed to be in the rumble however that confirmation came that person is a leak? That person is a leak in your company in that person should be. Terminated emanate from their job because they don't have enough respect for their job slash the wrestling fans to be there and it's unfortunate and again I I don't want to go on a rant because I could. I could go on the screaming rant. And don't I'm not GonNa do it because it's real. She'd yeah that's true you know how would want you to be your joy. It will make some good video footage. Honestly I just. I'm more disappointed than I am angry about it. And like you said that also means that there are certain people within the company that's leaking out and that even boggles my mind because at least you know a writer. Our website are getting in clicks for their website. It helps them but I would never understand why somebody who actually works for the company would do something like that like what. What did they possibly get from? I'm doing something like that Nothing they because if you're giving and I've told this to people and yes I don't even want to say it's an old school value because I'm shocked to learn who talks more and more to people on social media about insider stuff I it's in your worst day of your life. If something bad happens to you. They're still going to report it no matter if you have a friendship with them or not and may go with news used you may not want out there and because that's their job and that's how they make a living so how not saying don't support it but there's no no reason for it and I used to have. I used to fight with Paul Heyman a lot because he would leak stuff to the Internet during e C W and when I confronted him on it and this was back when the Internet wasn't as accessible and he was you know why because I want to catch a buzz for the company. 'CAUSE we're sold out and I can't get any more people in the building so I want people to continue say man. I have to be there that I kind of agreed with also guess what it was his company so he was the boss didn't Company didn't continue. Not Saying that was the cause of there was many many causes. But when you're the boss you can do whatever the hell you want. Oh you know the super bowl or your favorite team a lot of times. We're happy we're not happy with management. It's a different generation But it's it's just. There is no ultimate payoff for who the most important people the wrestling fans it. That's the bottom line and that's how I always 'cause I've still still. I'm still a wrestling fan. I go out there and tell you every single thing that we have planned right now for impact wrestling or what. I'm going to do for house a hardcore. You know if I said Oh me in edge talked. He's coming back at the royal rumble. Would does that make me better than you know. What would that be great for the show? No not really it would make let me look like the jerk and I don't want to be the jerk. I WANNA see forty five thousand people go crazy when he shows up and I also love love love love and I watched that and like I said it was a sad day with everything with Kobe. GOING ON I've been watching fans reactions to edges return. Grown men like shaking You know pe- people with tears in their eyes for my friend coming back and doing something that he loves. And you know what there's other better returns when I saw MVP and I'm boys with MVP when Pe- showed up. I was like Whoa that son of a bitch. That's awesome for him. But then I also knew and then he posted on instagram. He did he was like man. I've I've chased my dream. This is for his little son and I know Oh. Mvp He excuse me he never wanted to have like kids. He has a son who's best friend. And that's something. His son were remember. Remember how cool his father is and this larger than life superhero by the way. That's also my father if you don't know Sirius. Xm Then listen up commercial free music plus sports comedy talk and news. They had it all a lot of people. Think you need a car to enjoy Sirius. Xm But you don't. You can listen outside the car right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just one dollars. Just go to siriusxm dot com slash busted to see offer details and describe. You can listen on your phone at home and online that Sirius. Xm Dot com slash busted offer available to new series exempt streaming subscribe Sirius. XM No car required. Man It's funny to hear Christian again again like you Tommy talking about his friend talking about his former tag team partner and then also talking about somebody. Who's done it all being nervous you know going going into that rumble on Sunday? Just never would expect to hear Ed's saying he was nervous when I put it out there. You know armaments as performers are your moments and we share them together I got goosebumps for my friend. Friend returning to do something that he loved and there was a part where he really didn't miss wrestling. But like you said on his Promo you know. There's always the what ifs chiefs and when it's taken from you. A lot of athletes say they have to totally get away from the business or the sport that they've been doing to then appreciate it when you return and last year for edge and his wife as well they they had some experience a lot of loss. And that's part of life you know but edge lost. The the closest person to him was his mom and all of that like soaking in just like I literally saw him like teak take a breath and then like edge picton. But if he could've could've but if he would have started to cry because you know to me he's the world is looking at him and and higher above his mom sitting there. They're proud of him and just the shape that he got himself in. And as well as like just that moment and you have forty five to forty six thousand people just in shock and chanting your name the years nothing like it. It's IT'S A. Ah It's the B- I always say. Wrestling's the worst drug because we crave for those moments and at times wrestling gives us those moments comments and for him. When you're told you if you can do you take another bump? You could be crippled for the rest of your life. I'd I leave but then when you say by the way you know you're might be able to do this against a I could still pursue my dream and then you become that kid who who was at you know. He was at Wrestlemainia with the ultimate Warren Hulk Hogan and this is just like you know the Super Bowl's coming up people play this game since since they were kids and they've loved football just like how as wrestlers. We Love Wrestling since we're kids. That's how we I get hooked for the ones for a lot of them who make it make it. It's not like I'm GonNa come this in as a business because there's very few people that were like Let me just come in do this little wrestling thing and then leave. There's not a lot of people that made in the business. who had that meant mentality? And for those that did they actually became fans later they respect it more and you know like you talk about respecting it more. I'm sure edge. Even though he was nervous enjoyed that moment so much more because like you said it was taken away from him. He never thought he'd be able to do it again. And here he is being a man. I mean not everybody gets those second. Chances is and now he's going to be able to dictate when he leaves. He wasn't able to do that the first time he was forced to retire when he when it's all said and done he is completely done with pro wrestling. It's going to be on his terms absolutely and so it should be especially for someone who's had such An amazing career. But you know what for anybody. There's a time when you like you mentally check out or you're just stagnant or you just like you know what. What else do I have to accomplish it? You could look like someone like Matt Hardy. Who maybe they're not doing the best with him right now and it's it's not about money money for certain people? I knew it wasn't about money for me when I when I had left but there are times where you know. It's just like man. I wish W W would have done this with me. I I wish this would have happened for me but you know for edge. He accomplished everything that there is to accomplish. Main event at Wrestlemania. He's won every single title. And then it's like it's still like you think you're GONNA go out or how everybody wants to go out you know either at Wrestlemainia or this is going to be my last match here and but when somebody else tells you can't that's a whole other story and you know for him. I couldn't be proud of for his return. His return Monday night wasn't Didn't work out for him but I think if he comes back which he will we'll have one hell of a storytelling storytelling and great physical match. Randy Orton versus edge WRESTLEMAINIA. Michael you're hearing catch busted open. Live Monday through Saturday from nine. AM TO NOON EASTERN UNSERIOUS XM fight Nation Channel One fifty six or on demand with Sirius. XM APP no one coming out to help as they're not being that Uber baby face. That would come out to help. Edge listen Let's buy a little bit here Because I think if there was a run in or if there was somebody that came to help in that segment it would've taken away from the magic that took place on Monday night correct and if he's talking when he he referenced the edge heads This is nothing against them. That was a part of the gimmick with with edge. Also also nobody really. They don't do a lot with Zach and Kurt for make people to care if they were killed by Randy Orton or taken out or are kayode. And then it could. Also get baby-faced baby-faced pops for a guy who want to Have that He'll heat and yes you know I could see I would have liked like to see maybe or on social media the Like what happened afterwards. How they're slowly taking him out of the arena because you would again see these faces of all my God? This guy came back and then he just got injured. Maybe then you have somebody by You know a stretcher job which is a real deal and also if you WANNA think and I say this jokingly but when you're the main event because trust me mean edgewood travel a lot. There'll be a lot of the Times. I was the only person there because most of the wrestlers WanNa beat the traffic outside of all the fans leaving venue. Yeah and there's not a lot of people back there and it's the last segment on the show. That really that's a real deal But this is you know there's been a book of edge and this is the new book of edge and this is you know. His return was chapter one chapter two. We just saw the first sentence of Randy Orton and edge analysts. And you're giving me Randy Orton and edge at Wrestlemania Molin like seriously like. That's that's a match that I would love to see and we talk about edge and how great edge is. There's no doubt about it but man Randy Orton is something special. I always say on this show. He gets overlooked. And it's a shame because that guy's just is just unbelievable and you know he's somebody that is underrated about how good he is in the ring and he's one of the greatest wrestlers right now in two thousand twenty. Yeah he'll be he's You know it's funny. I was listening into and thinking of guys ages when Edge said his age. And then you know randy is now forty and it's you think of all that. They have accomplished campus. They also accomplish stuff together. Randy is one of those third generation wrestlers. Because you know he grew up in the business he also grew up Mentally as you know a performer and going from a kid in the business with getting handed a lot of stuff to then appreciating a lot of stuff to then being a leader and that maturity comes with just what we said maturity and like. If we're talking this is is also super bowl. I'm watching Tom Brady and drew brees out there. And they're having one last you know gunslinger type of reactions actions and we're like. Wow these two guys were one is already hall of Famer but like this is. We're watching greatness on foil. And then Oh my God what happened with greatness. Right here was great. Yeah I I know and and it's going to be a story that we're GonNa love to hear as we get closer and closer to Wrestlemainia. I asked the question before four. We went to break as well. where's bully? I don't know if you've got the here yesterday. Show and of course nobody tells me. What's going on Mac Cam? I'm Kohl's in to promote bullies appearance on the bump today. Alex mets our producer is even listening to the show today. He's watching the bump trump like I. I am sure. Tommy and I make this prediction right. Now that this will be the highest rated bump in the history of the BOB now. How long is the bump and on like six seven years the bump couple months? It's going to be the highest rated bompard. GimMe a little bit more credit than that. I can multitask. I'm doing I'm closely monitoring the situation on the bump and also paying attention to what's going on here on the bus. Gabby running the show to say. Listen so we got He's doing got the Wednesday night wars between aws xt and now you know. I've been noticing that this whole bomb trump thing they've been trying to last now. Steffi McMahon going up against Tommy Dreamer and I killed her in the ratings and now like they they went with within. Man This is like the N W oh this is like an invasion man. This is this is bigger than WCW and wwe. This is lex Luger showing up at NITRO. Whom bully ray went to the other show? Let me tell you something. Let me tell you some time. He and listen. You're guilty of this too. You're you're a guy last year that went again. Matt Matt Camp Llosa the show camp on the fantasy channel at the same time as busted open the seems to be a trend with Matt camp. Let me tell you something and I'm GonNa say this right now and this isn't just for talk show fodder on the show. This is coming from the heart. And I'm being completely honest when I say this matt camps a piece of garbage and the reason that I know it is that he's trying to get the shine of busted open won by finding how I don't know how did it found this way on this show and being somebody who was a part of this. Show you vouched for him. I did and then now going up against our art show and then poaching our own hose for his show. Let me tell you something. Tommy everybody on twitter and on social media are calling this the the Wednesday morning wars. It takes two to tango and the bump doesn't come close to bust it open. It doesn't come close in the ratings to busted open and it certainly doesn't come close to the loyal busted open. I don't hear anybody talking talking about the bump nation. Nobody nobody now. One person has ever said that. I don't even know what you call the nation of bumps bumpy obese puppies. Whatever said Oh? I'm a loyal bumpy. No no one's ever said that I don't see any fat Edsa Mac camp or or Toni. Braxton either Kayla and listen I get I get and I get like I get like two. Toni Braxton Grammy Award Winner. Her I get that like her. Her music career is Kinda slow down. But I don't think there's listen. There is no guilt and saying that you were once a top hop forty performer. So I don't understand why she's completely not even talking about her singing career at all on the bump Kayla two different person it by the way. I don't think you have to worry about here guys because Robbie or Robert Strauss or whatever. He just calling himself. Now he just called in via skype onto the bumps. I think everybody turned it off. So I assume Makarava they had drew McIntyre into into Robertson into Robbie. Yes so I think everybody turned off or Robert Stone with bully. Ray's bully ray their bowler as hasn't shown up yet. Because you know what I'm and this I would not put a pass the bump trump or the wwe network first of all that tells you the programming knowledge of the WWE network that they cancelled hidden. Gems I am a show like the bump is on. Am I wrong me. The person that you got fired which then resulted in Nice. You love me again. The person you got fired they probably replaced with this idiot. Who went hired Matt Camp From House? It's a hard core. So he's he's part of that whole list him in Vic Joseph what happened to his career and so you know they'll get their own. It's Karma Baby I don't I just don't understand understand. They're trying to start a fight with us. I'm not buying end. I'll David No. I'm not buying into the Wednesday morning. Wars it's not happening because they've they've dabbled a little bit with Mark Henry. They've kind of Kennedy and while. Oh yeah who goes down with the ship E C W was Tommy Dreamer. WHO's going to go down the ship with buses? That's right I mean you where the heart and soul screw that fat bastard bully ray doing another show. How dare you Tom Air you if Toni Braxton are Max camp called you tonight and said Hey Tommy we'd love for you to be on the bump? What would you say I said I'm contracting obligated to the only company in wrestling that I'm contract the obligated to Sirius? Xm Try. And I'd have to check with my. Hey boss to see if I be allowed to do thank you very my. We'll do. This may have another show I for my own show. I had Mac camp on we. We took a phone call from mack. I challenge right now right now. WWe The bump and at Mac him. I I challenge. Challenge Mac camp to put me on the bump. If he's got balls or he's got bumps hills he'll put the on the bump. Yep So wait a minute. I just said I'm going to stay here with you but yet you're trying to get booked on the now. I'm not trying to get up. I want an open debate with Mac camp camp on the bump match player and my greg the Hammer Valentine action figures while I'm saying this book you because he won't do it balls. You want me to get a April eleventh also hardcore right there right right now. I'm telling you right now as we speak Mac cab. I challenge you. Got The guts if you got the balls. If you gotta the Go-to ads have become on the up yet. Take Mark Henry yet. Take polling right. I know you've tried to take dream. Combat Bay come on and let's go up talking to you. Let's go. He won't do it. Plus he's an eagles fan because Toni Braxton's got his balls in a bag back. Thanks for listening catches Monday through Saturday. I'm busted open from nine. Am To noon eastern on Sirius Xm by Nation Channel. One fifty six busted open podcast.

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That's taking place on Saturday and a very heated heated discussion on the possibility of sting and undertaker at Wrestlemania also marking. I get into Becky an Oscar as we elite into the royal rumble. All right now on the busted open podcasts punk after a little bit of an absence was back on. WWe backstage and as you know royal rumble. Coming up this Sunday. The road to Wrestlemania begins on Sunday with the Royal Rumble. And of course. CNN punk was asked about who he thinks should win the men's royal rumble. Who I think's GonNa win male roller rumble? Yes who should win it. Who Do I think is going to win big difference all right fantasy both the key flee flee from annex t should win the royal rumble? I'll tell you I think we need a why. Glad showing at Survivor series and heat to me is big fish in a little pond right now not to say that. NFC He is little by any means to grow. I think you need to follow up on stuff like this. You strike when the lightning's hot you see the little mommy had with brains right there. It feels like it was two years ago. We gotta we gotta get going with people here. I think he's a truck brock over the top rope and he needs to win the whole thing. Listen you tell me keithly keithly and I liked that too. He added that keithly would eliminate Broccolis and so he would eliminate Brock Leser win the royal rumble match and then I guess S. go after the championship held by brock listener. And I know mark keithly somebody. You're very very high on. What do you think? Think about Keith. Lee winning rumble on Sunday. Well I mean you know how highly out think keithly and and even excuse me I suggested did that Keith. Lee have great moment with Brock I didn't I wasn't considering keithly throwing brock over the top. But you know what man I guess. You know brilliant minds think alike I think punk is on the right track. Like he is is a moment. That's not too grand Iran. Fan Let me ask you. This mark is when you look at this. Hello I'm I'm all in. I was bitching immonen yesterday. That there is no annexed exte- present so far at the royal. What's that you awa you all in anyway go him talking about? Aws later Martin of of so so. There's no annex t presence and I kind of had a little bit one of my tirades yesterday about the lack of presence of annex t at the Royal Rumble now see 'em pump brings up the fact that he would love to see keithly eliminate brock window rumble and head to Wrestlemainia. Let me ask you this mark in all seriousness seriousness when you look at the Royal Rumble that whoever wins the royal rumble is going to be one of the main event matches at Wrestlemainia. H- you know more than anyb- anyone anyone wrestlemania is the ultimate mainstream attraction when it comes to the. WWe would they give that opportunity to be in a main event match at Wrestlemania with brock listener to Keith Lee. Who is known to the hardcore wrestling fan but is definitely not known to the mainstream in stream wrestling fan? Well I tell you. On that stage he would become that guy and is hard to be gable to Initially just be thrust into that's by people be like all you're pushing us but I don't think that the crowd would be that way with keithly. I think they'd be like it's about damn time. I think that's the way to cry. Would be keithly and I think you would agree. Mark that you WanNa talk about somebody pretty credible being in the ring with brock listener where you could say oh yeah I could see. NBA Brock. It would be keithly. Yeah and a man of his besides his endurance is great and You need to weather the storm with brock sometimes too. You can't just go go in and and try to go fist. Full Fist kick kick with brock. You have to have a strategy. You know either speeding up or slowing down depending on your skill does it. And Keith leaves the good balance of both I would love for them to put keithly in that position. Because like you said Edmark and you're so right you would make a star that night of keithly because maybe Keith lease not known the day before Wrestlemainia India but yeah sure as hell will be known. The day after WRESTLEMANIA would be bigger conversation on Monday our way nothing there will be nothing bigger than keithly in a world of pro wrestling if if he be brock listener after the royal rumble and then went into wrestlemainia India and then say he went to Wrestlemainia and he faced brock at the. You'd eliminated me. It was it was. It's twenty-nine other men all excuses in the world. And now you have a match on the WRESTLEMAINIA stage with keithly. What would the Monday after be like win? Lose or draw what would the world be talking about. They would all be talking about keithly keithly they will be talking about the match that brock had with keithly. So it's not the moment is not too big is out of the remers possibility. Let me ask you. This is Keith Lee. Ready for for that type of a spotlight on him. That is the thing is unproven. I can't say that he is because it's not just the physical pain rain. It is a mental thing is a endurance race with dealing with everything that comes with it. Keith Lee Lee has been. He's been in independent wrestling where he held titles. But when you are the champion every radio show every media break every marketing and promotions appearance. Your own you go from working about seven hours a day to work in about sixteen eighteen hours a day and you have to be at every raw every live event every pay per view the beginning promo the end in Promo Ballyhoo meet and Greet Special Olympics. Boys and Girls Club meetings. You have to do it all. Is he ready. I don't know nobody knows until you put in that situation and then you can see if that a person is ready. And if they're not they will not be champion long mark. Do you think with this opportunity do you. Do you make somebody young and new or do you give the opportunity to a returning veteran like just in the eyes of the. WWe Right now today. Want want to make somebody at this year's rumble or do they just WanNa get somebody to return to face brock listener for key. Marquee match up at Wrestlemainia. You know what I. I think that there's enough in the cupboard to go to what they already have. Will somebody sick Gabby has got a bit of a cough. Everybody Else Cola. When in? He's okay that's a free commercial Guys you will pay for it later. I don't think they've that putting edge or Siham punk are any other surprise element into that spot is gonNA WANNA appease the WWe universe. I think that they want to see Alice to black get shine they wanna see keithly get shine. They WANNA see bronze stroman getting shot. They WANNA see. Drew McIntyre shot. There's a bunch of people that are sitting on the bench. You know like shaking leg like coach put me and put me in. I'm I'm can make the big shot. There's a lot of people only only name five. There's there's probably another fifteen because you're right. Drew McIntyre all-star black. I'd love to see any of those guys be able to get like you said the shine at Wrestlemainia thirty six so so this fantasy book this imagine seeing punk comes back back on the scene and Alice. The black takes offense to wait a minute. There's a there's a line and I'm in it. You mean to tell me you're GonNa put this guy missing his ass at home. Take an idol fights against people that we never heard of and now he's on television talking about wrestling when I'm about about wrestling you're gonNA put him in front of me. I tell you what if he beats me. You do what you want to him. I'm all you talk about being awol. N Shit I'm all in but will that happen. I'm not sure I talked about what is going to draw money and how to build people in the process. And that's that's that's what I'm hoping that's going to get done and I can foresee it being done but is not being done. So let's let's hope that this royal rumble. This battle royale with cheese is the best one that we've ever seen because it can be it potentially can be with brock lessner going in I and all of the elements that we talked about with some additions to people that have been gone for a while. This could be the greatest Batta role. Aw that we've ever seen the potential. Is there Michael. You're hearing catch busted open. Live Monday through Saturday from nine. AM to noon eastern on Sirius Xm Fighting Nation Channel One fifty six or on-demand with this series. XM APP. The next time you're in. I actually need a list of all the stuff that you're doing so I'll put it in novel form please. Well Anyone Sam Roberts joins us here. I'm busted open and Sam can't believe a word it just talking about it off. The air can't believe it's rumble season right before the road to Wrestlemainia thirty six. Yeah I can't believe it's already here either but before we get started you know. I don't like to come empty-handed oh right now. A couple a few months ago at this point Mark Henry. The world's strongest Man Hall of Famer Hall of painter helped me out came to my live show at Caroline's on Broadway and for the first time in his life completed a dream of his and did his stand up comedy set and he is phenomenal phenomenal. So I went to my good friends at Caroline's on Broadway and mark next time I see next time you hear this is yours. This is a caroline's on Broadway mark. Henry I'm aw marquee poster for you more listen man you my guy look at that it says. Wwe Hall of Famer World's strongest man Mark Henry. It's got the date on it. These are the posters that they make for everybody that headlines that club and I was like come on come on mark deserves a one so there you go mark. I've met cone away. That is damn cool. That's pretty cool. That's going in my office. Good yes sir. Good good see if that was of course thinks of course thank you. Now if that was on the Marquee Caroline's probably probably somebody would take a sharpie to it and put sunglasses on his face. But you know that's awesome because because mark you did you really you know you did. That woman was going up and and that's tough to do to go up there and off the cuff to some standup comedy. And he was good in front of that type the crowd. You know you that Sam. Sometimes the crowds could be rough. They can be rough especially with me. They can be really but mark was able to bring it back for me. They're good. They were good to mark and so that some of that rubbed off on me. I think. Okay Yeah Yeah and I apologize for the hairline comment there were there. There were comments. There were but Mars put himself in a position where he can do that. 'cause mark saw what was happening with him and he said I'm going to take care of that. I'M GONNA get smooth smooth and sexy. That's what he said Mark. Maybe I need maybe I need to get there. Because I'm not smooth sexy right now so mark are was that like out of A. CNA OF nutty Professor Sir. Where you find somebody in the crowd that just rag on comes out on stage with him and I went to? I went out a couple of people. Eat it he did so I mean you know there was some there was some hose comments. Were we yeah. There are some hose in the audience. Mark did point out where the hose where the hosts section well. Yes and Caroline's for all I know has a whole section. They did that night. That's for sure that night off of the bat drinks being nice. Yeah and all of a sudden there were people don't like Like they couldn't get a drink. Oh so now you WANNA be. That's right and you know when the hose come out that's when Mark Henry drifts into sexual chocolate. Yeah those Love Sexual Shaw they do but yeah. I'm very excited. It's I mean the royal rumble season and it is. It does feel like royal rumble season which is Wrestlemainia. Season is kind of like sneaking up on us that it's only his knocking on the door. Yeah Yeah it's a days away at this point it's funny because it doesn't feel like we're at that type type You know that part of the year because you're right once Sunday comes and the rumble was done. We're on that road to Wrestlemainia and it just feels like we just got pass wrestlemainia thirty five. As a matter of fact there are still people in the parking lot at metlife. Stadium the to get home from WRESTLEMAINIA thirty five. But I don't know Sam you know it doesn't it doesn't feel like rumble season Monday night raw. It didn't feel feel like go home Monday night. Raw for the Royal Rumble. I don't know what to expect on Sunday when everything's changing so much to like we're in this state state of flux where there are no challenges for Brock Leser like. There's no obvious brock listener match to have with anybody on the roster and the fiend. Is this whole other other entity. So there's like what does a wrestlemainia main event match with the fiend even look like you've got seth rollins who in the last literally month went from baby baby. Face of the company wins the title last year's Wrestlemainia to going back to being a super he'll so they with all this stuff up in the air and is it. Time for Roman Roman reigns to finally get back into the title picture or with Brock and the fiend. Does that even make sense. I think that I think that it doesn't feel like that because it becomes really difficult to piece this together. What wrestlemainia might look like this year? Wrestlemainia you home. That's what's going on. We're not gonNA have the door. Yeah but I think that this whole deal Sam. Is You have the potential potential to create this buzz in the battle raw in the in the royal rumble. And I said it. You can have drew McIntyre in a moment we brock. You can have bobby Lashley have a moment with Brock Brock and have a series of about six times. He goes face to face with a guy as a barometer of showing. Who Do we want to see him with the most? Yeah I think that's one hundred percent true. And so I mean you look back at royal rumbles and I think some of my favorite royal rumbles are the ones where you have. Those many stories told throughout the entire match. You can even just a couple years ago that twenty eighteen royal rumble was so great not just because Shinsegei one and nobody thought he would win. Because you had those moments like you know where you John Cena and Ray and Randy Orton looking head to head with Finn Ballard Shinsegei Nakimora and Roman reigns in this generational thing that you never would have thought what happened throughout that. Sort of sixty minute it match. You can have all this stuff happened you can go back. People criticize the nineteen ninety. Nine Royal Rumble. That was the one that Vince one. Yeah that because it was so all over the place but if you really really watch that there's probably fifteen different stories with different people all told throughout that match so if you have is just on the royal rumble match you get this kind of microcosm of what. WWE looks like heading into Wrestlemainia. And I think you're going to need that this year because usually usually around this time we can kind of figure out some of the matches. We're GONNA see WRESTLEMAINIA. I I really can't figure out any this close to two wrestlemainia so I think coming out of at this year's rumble you're going to see a lot of stories played out on Sunday. That's going to carry us to Wrestlemainia thirty six. Yeah I mean you look at a guy like Kofi who in October October and even leading up to the royal rumble. I'm sitting here going. Like if Kofi wins the Royal Rumble and then Kofi goes to Wrestlemainia and he finally gets his rematch brock listener. Everything was worth it. And everything's Okay but Kofi hasn't even really been in that conversation leading to the royal rumble at all. He hasn't looked like a guy who's GonNa be in title contention going into Wrestlemainia but that story either gets told or doesn't get told in the royal rumble match. Either we're going to have if Kobe's even in it at all. Yeah either he's going to be in there and he's going to do a Kofi spot and do what he's done in years past or he's GonNa have this showing where it raises him back up four or five pags to where he was you know six months ago when you look at it and look what we're dealing with now this close to the royal rumble. I mean just days away. It's crazy. There's three ways they can go. They could give it to a younger town. Maybe even to somebody on annex t they could go with their old standbys like Randy orange or it could be a returning veteran. which way do you think they're going to go on Sunday? It's tough to say because that annex t thing like if you would ask me me before survivor series which way. They're going to go on any of those matches I wouldn't have thought for instance Keith. Lee would come across as strong as he did in that survivor series as match so it gets really difficult to say. which way do I think they're going to go? I think that there's a good possibility that did it. Ends up being more of a mainstreamer than fan choice however because you now you know you talk about annex t not theoretically the winner of the Royal Rumble now picks between three champions not too so you could use the royal rumble to have somebody who's for the hardcore fans win and that doesn't mean that they're going to main event wrestlemainia means they're gonNA get a title Wrestlemainia right. It doesn't it doesn't just because you have like they did with Shinsegei Nakimora one of the main of Pennsylvania right so I think I think that that's that's also a distinction that if sort of a fan choice quote unquote were to win the royal rumble. That doesn't mean that that person is the match at Wrestlemania. That means that that person is in a big match at Wrestlemania Sam this in related to pro wrestling this question. Okay how is Babe Babe the movie no babe the Blue Ox okay that's that's a reference to Davies. Thank you saying that with my beer to my shirt. I resemble Mythical lumberjack Paul Paul Bunyan screen and all I can see. Oh Gosh even even after that can you. Can you stay around because you begrudging all right. Well I for make you start for you. I'll stay with you okay. Talk gave him more work. Silence your microphone if you don't know Sirius. Xm Then listen up commercial free music plus sports comedy talk and news. They had got it all a lot of people think you need a car to enjoy Sirius. Xm But you don't. You can listen outside the car right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just one dollar. Just go to siriusxm Lisa dot com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe. You can listen on your phone at home online that Sirius. XM DOT com slash plus did offer available to new series Lisa. I'm streaming subscribers SIRIUSXM. No car required cody Rhodes on last week complaining about my dad heads. Why gets he's trying to have a moment on? AWACS you stupid league-record face face whatever gets out MARK YOU WANNA call it stupid as long as you make it and you bring into the show. That's all I care about. I've always start selling some fat heads about you. Don't make it how about you. You buy it from fat heads arrests. Obviously I'm not in this for the money. That's siriusxm awesome. I do it to crush them. That's right yeah. I do it to crush crush crush a lot. It's just what the same woman right. You know. I WANNA crush tonight. Yeah she'll find out anyway. So what are you. What are your plans for the weekend? it's GonNa be great besides crushing. Well Yeah I'M GONNA crush a lot. We just made some as crushing ooh. That's around no pressure about Christian around. Yeah no no no. There's no crushing the world's strongest man however I'm going to be in Houston this weekend. I'm GONNA find a Mark Henry and indulgence and barbecue. Maybe some donuts as well and then of course kicking off worlds collide on Saturday night on the w network then helping to kick off the royal rumble on Sunday night on the wwe network Nice Yeah. I'm very excited for worlds collide. Oh it's GonNa be Great. It's going to be great next versus next to UK did you. I'm sure you guys did. See the last annexed plastic fantastic walters. Walter's Walter deserves to be an entrant in his about a role in in in Aurora rumble. Yeah is that polarizing and and I doc is listen. You talk about a face off with bobby. Lashley and drew McIntyre and Keith. LE- let let there be a moment where Walter author and Bronx to wall to wall to. He will kick rocks as people. Don't realize that walters no punk man. That dude is so good. Uh and he's not getting just do I think I can think of at least ten guys that there should be a moment and the moment should go away away from brock to Keith. Lee and Walter are bronze Stroman and Bobby Lashley and all these different things and say look. What do you WanNa see on Monday? Let the crowd pick the best moment and make matches inches from those moments. Oh Man I'm just too good at this shit so we are all prime me. I mean imagine think about that moment. Think marks right think think about if brock is throwing guys out right left and right he's thrown guys out and he's in one of those Steve Austin moments where he's alone in the ring because he throws this guy out another guy comes out he throws that guy out out and all of a sudden after five guys have gone through and brock listeners. Alone in the Ring Walters music hits. I mean Houston with lose their mind they would it start banging on the trash cans like the Astros. They'd go crazy good. That's good I I went on a little bit of a rant. I WANNA get your take on it on yesterday's show one on the ramp because now we know that hey annexed is not that developmental title show anymore. It's their smackdown. And there's Annex T. It's on live every Wednesday on the USA cable network but I was really upset at the fact that we have twenty two entrance to the rumble and not one of them are for an X.. T. At some point. If you WANNA say that that's a major show and it's no longer developmental developmental. They should treat it as such now. They did at survivor. Sery- obviously in a big way. Do you feel that annex. T should have a bigger presence this close to the royal rumble. So I think I've been thinking about it a lot actually and I also think it's one of those. Be careful what you wish for scenarios because one of the things raw and smackdown share every pay per review together and I think the one thing we don't want is for t- to become such an equal every pay per view becomes try branded. I think one of the things that annex t has going for itself is the fact that takeovers are the best shows in professional wrestling in the world and the last thing you WanNa do is not have takeovers there's so that can be quote unquote equal. I do think that in the royal rumble match itself an xt should have heavier representation. But what. I don't think I think that that there should be some separatism with annex t because NFC is a separate product and the last thing that you want run smack down look very similar you don't want an xt to become that. Much of third brand this is identically. Lead the same conversation as relates to what Becky said and the women's wrestling is is just you're saying in it that shouldn't be separation because you lose something great. It's the same thing with the women you you take women wrestling out and just make wrestling you lose women being great yes I at the same way and and and you know what like I I love the fact that you reference the fact that inexpertise should remain its own entity because you are exactly right. Thank you dave and I said last year that the to annex t pay per views were better than all the rest of the WB branded pay per views except for the elimination chamber in Wrestlemainia area. The pay per view was inferior to take overs. Am I at David. Even mom's Day now I completely agree with you. Yeah I mean think about when annex t debuted on USA. What was the number one concern on wrestling? Fans it was I. I hope as if everybody knows what's really going on I'll vince doesn't get his hands on St. They wanted annex t to remain under the control that we theoretically believe leave it is of triple h. It's the separate thing over here. That triple H has been cultivating and developing along with the trainers at the performance center and its own entity. I think that that has to be a part of this conversation. And the fact that annex t is not first of all he's already promoting two big big shows on their television. They're already hiding worlds collide and they're already hyping up takeover Portland so you are now asking to hype up a third show by saying Oh yeah and also also we're going to be in the royal rumble. Now we're asking you to watch three shows coming up which is a difficult sell. I think that you have the opportunity to put an extend the royal rumble and have it feel much more like invasion of the separatist group coming in when you don't announce or say hey this just happens to be the third show Annex T and. Here's WHO's is coming in being optimistic. No no I see what you're saying because my argument yesterday was that. Hey this is no longer developmental brand. It's one of our three brands. It's it's raw. Aw It's it's smackdown ten x t but there's no representation at the rumble. So how can it be the you looking at them as equals. But I like what you're saying saying this is a this is a row company rogue show. Then you gotta be careful how you use an x t as well because here we are talking about Keith Alea MHM possibly winning the rumble. Mark mentioned it Siham punk mentioned that as well of keithly wins the rumble is going to be going after the NFC championship or is he going to be going went after brock listener and a major WWe championship. It's going to be brock. Leser and to me that hurts annex t and then it shows that an extent is not on par with these other shows. You there is a line where you can't cross and you have to be careful right. Where when the choice comes do you want arrest on smackdown or an X T and X T? Guys can't can't pick Ron smackdown every time because it has to be like no you need and you need to highlight news the pig INEX- T.. Yeah because that's the shot in the arm that connects team needs like. I didn't come here to be the raw champion. I didn't come here to be the champion on smackdown back down. I am an INEX- t- I've fought and scratching claw my way so I can be the champion at and by God. That is exactly exactly what I'm going to do. And he has that moment. Yes brother he and he. How great a champion camping would he be especially after species? Because what would happen is not only would you elevate keyword win the royal rumble. And he didn't pick brock and he picks brock that elevates keithly if he goes. No I want Adam Cole. Now you're elevating keithly and you're elevating Adam Cole. And you're exactly connects. Tea is a brand. That's what happened survivor. Series annexed brand was elevated. And you could see it if you were looking at the ratings. More people are watching annexed after the weekend to survivor series series and the week coming out of survivor series. They beat eighty w in the ratings right. Because it's like all of a sudden you might not be watching this show but look at it and look at the performances Mrs in front of those eyes and I think that that would happen. I think marks right. I think that that keithly if he were to win the royal rumble. It would be best service service to everybody if he picked Adam Cole and we told more stories like that like Keith. Li like thin ballor. Who theoretically right in terms of as fans ends fin? Valor has the choice. He comes back from wherever he was he was on smackdown Aurora. Where everyone is? I don't even know if he remembered. But he chooses annex t when he returns turns not because he got downgraded her because he's got an injury that he needs to work on it. Because I want to be an annex t see. This is an interesting conversation because I agree with mark that it needs to that annexation. Needs that shot in the arm now. Let's say Keith Lee won the rumble any chooses. You know what because all three brands are being represented all three titles are being represented. I'm going after the NFC championship. I'm going after Adam call now. That match needs to be at Wrestlemainia one hundred percent so oh now already. You've crossed that line that I'm talking about which I don't think is going to be a bad thing. I think you could be separate. I think everybody knows that tunes in that annex because he is kind of like triple H is show and it's a little bit separate from raw and smackdown but it does need like mark said that shot in the arm. Hell if I'm the WWE. I do exactly the scenario that you just presented because now you have to tune into annex t right that's a major storyline going into wrestlemainia. And I also think if that ever happened then you know what. Aws into rear view mirror. Because you're GONNA get those ratings because people are going to now have to tune in to annex t on Wednesdays and an internationally people don't watch the next T- and Awa war right except for the really really superfan that you know you tubes and subscribes to whatever drivers were. They can watch now. You're going to have those fans go. Well wait a minute. What is this I want to see it? And that audience will tune in It'd be a great thing and I think I think he. He should have some kind of representation at Wrestlemainia as the show. I just think it needs a reason for being in. That would be a reason for being. I don't think it should be assumed that will I mean wrestlemanias different right wrestlemanias almost a celebration of WWe as an all encompassing company which would include Annex T. I don't mind seeing an annex t match at Wrestlemania. I think think it'd be good. I would mind if pay per views in general became tri branded. I think there's a distinction to make their I. It's a it's a weird scenario. Look at NAP. But it's interesting as well Conversation at mark and I are having and this has been a conversation and I'm sure you've heard scuttle but it's you talk about a conversation has two sides to it and that is the undertaker. It's wrestlemainia season. This is when you start bringing up the undertaker's name undertaker sat down down with stone. Cold Steve Austin. He made it clear he's not done yet. He's he's near the end of the road but he hasn't hit the finish line and also you saw that documentary that the wwe we network had on staying and sting is still bothered by the fact that he hasn't had match to really call in wrap his career round. Is there any anyway. We see sting undertaker at this year's Wrestlemainia I mean I think there's a way I don't think I think I hope it's unlikely. It's not my pick for Wrestlemainia Samania match you know. I think there's a lot of if you really WANNA do that. Match there still other international pay per views that you are still doing those super matches at but I think the undertaker where he's at in his career. I mean we. I don't like legend versus legend matches. I like legend versus current guy matches you know. Oh I think you run into problems. I think you ran into that problem with Goldberg versus undertaker. Right it just. It was not the right match. Both of those guys had better matches coming off off of that match with younger guys. I would much rather see the undertaker versus. I think if anybody is perfect for an undertaker match at this year's wrestlemanias drew MacIntyre. I think that's the spot for drew. You know I think everybody's been talking about drew. And obviously he's making that slow. Kind of good guy. baby-faced turn as we watch raw week after week. And I think drew McIntyre versus undertaker's match. That I WANNA see 'cause I wanna see the undertaker wrestlemainia Nia betting drew is the match. I want I I can't say that disagree disagree but there is a little bit of difference of opinion of where you put it. You're saying that you you don't mind seeing undertaker's thing just you rather see that at the the greatest rumble and Saudi Arabia right at Wrestlemainia. Semaine right okay. Yeah I mean yeah. I and drew McIntyre undertaker at resum s O mania. Yeah because I think I don't I don't disagree wrestlemanias wrestlemanias still you do. Oh Yeah what do you disagree. I think if you'RE GONNA put those two in the ring together it's gotta be Wrestlemainia but what loses loses the luster that good. Why was Goldberg and undertaker? Not Good because Gordon. The Roman reigns it was Goldberg's words fall on his own like Goldberg. I tried too much. I think Goldberg thought for a moment that this was twenty years in the past year. Nuts sure and he probably probably did a little too much in that match and he probably. I'm not going to say I'm backing to use the word unsafe because that would be unfair but probably tried to do too much. I don't think you would get that With the undertaker instinct. And you're you're a sting guy back in the day right. You're extending fan. Don't you agree that that one big matches has eluded him. Obviously obviously I fell flat. He I think I think he needs it and I think his fans need that one that one match that is that that is kind have needs to validate his career. That's why I do want to see the match but I'm not can sting hasn't wrestled in years now and he's coming off of. It's something that he thought was going to end his career all together so I don't know what kind of shapes thing is in wrestling is chasing At a have smackdown on the first smackdown on Fox and I could not believe how great looked while I mean he is training. He's living in Texas now and WAX Hatchet Texas about thirty minutes south of Dallas. I talked to him and was like Yo man what are you doing. I couldn't believe so he's telling me keeping you. Did you find the fountain of youth telling everybody he's looking. I'm great man. Yeah so I mean like. I don't think that that's going to that. That's not going to be the issue. The issue is going to be where and win yet. How much we in Bay right? Yeah that's the check is important. I also that sting undertaker like the great balls of fire paper Eh. Probably not no no. But I also don't think that wrestlemanias synonymous with sting like I don't think we're looking for thank. You are think we're new to me. I'm I'm unfamiliar yes. I don't think that we're looking for sting to have a wrestlemainia moment because sting has made the choices in his career. If he's probably the one giant icon superstar that is not synonymous with Wrestlemainia. Yes there you go and I think that you know there you go drew McIntyre as a WWe superstar tried and true the undertaker. Is You know he is defined by Wrestlemainia and vice versa. I don't think that the sting undertaker match loses any lustre whatsoever happening elsewhere. I think drew McIntyre having Wrestlemainia match with the undertaker would would not only be good for drew McIntyre but I actually think it would bring a little bit of prestige back to the undertaker wrestlemainia match. Well I I I know there's probably a split. There's people like me that want to see that matchup would love to see it for the introductions and it would be like a wrestlemainia moment and then there's probably a lot of fans at stink especially after like what you said with Goldberg. neons tickets like do you really need to see to fifty plus year. Old Guys is in the ring together at Wrestlemainia fear. And that's what I mean. That's a good point to who cares what they think. Pessimism the Champions Stig in the undertaker red money in the back now if you have stinging the undertaker and the rain it's Wrestlemainia. Nobody nobody saying great balls of fire. We said the greatest Royal Rumble Super Shadow in this place to Sean. My uncle is it Saudi. Oh my God what time is it. Is it a time at the end of the hour already. Michael you're hearing catch busted open. Live Monday through Saturday from nine. Am To noon eastern on Sirius Xm Fight Nation Channel One fifty six or Gore on demand with the series. XM APP obviously a lot of talk on the royal rumble just days away from the Royal Rumble. Taking place this Sunday and other than the rumble match. I think the match that everyone is looking forward to is Oscar and Becky Lynch for that raw women's championship chip and Becky Lynch was a guest mark on. WWe backstage. And she had this to say about Oscar. She is she's phenomenal Sonam right. She is phenomenal. She's phenomenal what she's done in the ring and her character work presently is amazing and so she she had this phenomenal warning in an xt right like she was booked to win ninety percent from matches and then last year wrestlemainia she got her and I felt bad for. I know what it was like being opposition so Owes feel weird talking about the mechanics of things. I want to make her a monster and I'm doing everything that I can. Because she is personally. I have beat yet and I'm a move stuff story physics. It's the person that I haven't feed into doubt that they'll stop wrestling seven years ago. That do this. Do I have that ability to beat this person. I'M GONNA fight it while I'm going to walk away and we're going to run away or will I continue. And Yeah She's she's she's phenomenal well. We know she's phenomenal. Obviously going into Wrestlemainia. Thirty eighty four New Orleans. She was undefeated and lost the match to Charlotte Dome. Many people myself included think. That was the best match at Wrestlemainia Mania thirty four WRESTLEMAINIA thirty five Obviously she was not part of that main event and she kinda got lost in the shuffle especially after tapping out becky lynch at last year's royal rumble. Now she has this opportunity against Becky Lynch and Becky saying in right here that hey she feels bad. That Oscar got overlooked last year. She wants to make Oscar into a monster. I'm wondering mark that that if this is just part of the story on Sunday at the rumble I mean think about it. I thought this was going to be just her opportunity. To kinda rollover over Oscar. But I think that we're overlooking the obvious. I think this is just a chapter. In the book. This might lead to another match between the two at Wrestlemania thirty six. What do you think you know what you can develop or make somebody? But it's the little arrogant to magazine like. You're you're leading them to be built so you can turn down. Medicines descends with me and I don't I don't know if that's what's GonNa take place do you think it's not that like that. I thought that's what I thought it was going to be mark mark but could this be just a chapter in the book. Could this be one match. Maybe this leads to another batch who knows mark. Maybe Oscar Beats Becky Lynch on Sunday for that role women's championship. You know. I'm I'm not sure day but I I do know this When you have a magic disag- -nificant is career building and the person that you have not been able to be be when you do finally beat them it adds is just an we always say feathering? Your hat knows it is. I'm saying that it will. It'll make more make her more powerful than any jet I but what would it due Vasco. What would that do for? Oscar now does ask become the driving force in women's wrestling. I'm not sure but she beasts the champ. She should she should be held that high regard right now absolutely if she wins. If Becky Beats Oscar on Sunday they mark and that that story is done I mean Pakistan. BECKY's your champion. She Be Donald said. Do Foschi nothing. Don't you WANNA have parody. Don't you want to have. I just say I can look at. It is the end oscar-winning by Hook about crew. And that would make a better story going toward Wrestlemainia for Becky on the biggest aid this I won't you. You are the only thing that eluded me and at Wrestlemainia Wrestlemainia. I'm going to get it done now. You have reason for Becky to not be champion. And to beat the a person that has wiped her as consistently over two years and to take the title from that person. Yeah that's that's that's where that's where you make your. Hey that's how you elevate becky to a high level than she already is sometimes is got to beat a rocky movie is gotta be rocky goes in and gets his ass kicked but what does rocky do does he quit. Does he moaned as he complain. No rocky goes and trains rocky goes and sacrifices rockies shuts up talking and goes to work. I'm very interested in and seeing becky shut up start training in and say you know what I've talked a lot a resume any I the my actions do my talk. That's what I want as a wrestling fan. I won't the living breathing becky rocky. That's what I want now. While on the other side of that is if Oscar wins on Sunday now she becomes Oscar the two belts because he's going to have that role women's championship. And she's going to have that tag team championship so mark. I agree with you. Thousand Percent Becky beating ASCA really doesn't do anything for me at all. But then you have the one of no but if Oscar Beats Becky. You're making Oscar Aska now. Oscar rules that women's division in the wwe because she has the tag team title and the role women's title and Becky becomes like you said that rocky character. She has that setback but she has a way to redeem herself at the ultimate show at Wrestlemainia. Thirty six I love the story. You just brought up mark. I think it's perfect. And and not only that. But you give the world a break. Sometimes absence makes the heart grow fonder. I would like to see that absence news of Becky with the title. I'm tired of hearing her as you know what it will. It will make me more endearing to her as baby face to see her battle from adversity. And excuse me that is. That is what we won't as fans we. We won't Perte but we want to see how champions shine is better to shine on the biggest stage then shine where nobody can see the light. Thanks for listening catches Monday through Saturday. I'm busted open from nine nine A._M.. To noon eastern on Sirius X._M.. By Nation Channel One fifty six busted open podcast.

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Episode Thirty-Two

Le Batard & Friends - Mystery Crate

53:25 min | 9 months ago

Episode Thirty-Two

"Mystery has been presented by ZIPRECRUITER's Ziprecruiter. The smartest way to hire and miss recruiters Broaden your ears is uh-huh so what are we talking about here We decided last week. Yeah that we were going Lou introduce misery crate every week as if it were an MTV show from nineteen. Oh Yeah I think we failed. Not should I call. It was slightly annoying more than slightly more than I heard it. But for those who didn't hear it. What would that sound like? Don't do this don't make it was basically just what I kind of just did for that two seconds just all all of us doing it. Why did you decide to do like ninety? You miss out if you would like to do it. And I'm trying to figure out what how that's trying to bring the energy and we realize is that it sounded like just your just your typical goof. Nineties empty goof nineties. MTV seem like a fun place to work right yeah oral history need it yeah. TRL which show would like TRL is now Sierra who's like TRL. I think like like not like ninety eight nine. That's like barely ninety. Yeah what was going like. WH- that's what I have. I think remember angry viewers where they would Is One of my favorite shows where they would say all right guys here. They had their panel of twelve and they would vote every day on like three music music videos that were they position. It as these are videos that could get into our rotation think of it MTV actually playing music but it was like a focus group. And they're like you need to decide what gets into the the rotation and whatever's left standing if you take the champion from the previous day and it matches up against winner of the best three from that show and by the end of the week you have like a winner right and sometimes they would have like cookie cookie choices like there. Was this Guy Jimmy Ray who had like a big pompadour for like hairstyle and he had like ridiculous song but I only know him because they randomly decided they'd love this video rapper's delight the remix with Redman that was shows it was hosted by the lovely second week we reference her a Nanda Lewis overnight lows remember that it was originally hosted by someone named name Jhansi done and there was. I liked the afternoon program. What is the Nanda up to his? I'm looking this up and I don't want to repeat. I think one time I think a Nanda went to be not afterwards and now I don't know like sometimes they say within the Viacom family because Serena alcohol. This ad is a name from the past she was like one of the. MTV News Anchors Ansari now show like casually if you watch CBS Sunday morning like she'll be doing profiles and I'm like wow that's cool that's to renounce stayed with Viacom Viacom this whole time. Yeah Nanda Lewis Man. I had such a crush on a non to Louis. I would love to see if I could talk to anybody on the mystery create might be a non non to Louis. Yeah she's hosted while you were out a couple of times here so while you were out. It's a show on hosted this show while Mike was what does that Joe. I've never heard of this while you were out. Crew while your crew conspire with one member of a household to get their spouse partner roommate out of the okay so they can perform a forty eight hour makeover on a room or outdoor area. That's cool what does HDTV Chelsea like. All right okay. Got uh-huh maybe she wants to promote and I can talk to and onto Lewis. who was like a big time crush? Mind let's What are you going to talk to her about? You're just going to say like you're going to be like the Chris Farley. Paul McCartney. Yeah you remember that. What was your guys right now? Everyone one MTV show you have to pick one going Jersey Shore Jersey Shore. There's a little past like this like just in general that's your favorite. MTV longtime longtime all the green trl's at different classes like yeah. I'm not different rocking event. Not Yeah Yeah although you go on. TV sports hosted by Dan. Cortes can jockey so ahead of its time it really was like rock and jock basically was what we're trying to turn every sport into whenever we do stuff but it's like a fun. Celebrity all stars Grade McDowell. Wow I love it. It's I basically got on that just because he flipped off the Yankee Stadium. Yeah that's all it took I'm prince. Fielder was in it when he was a little Tyke. Like those really cool to see what was what's your MTV show that you're going with rock and jock no because you can do that. One you know other show you'll MTV press basically okay. I thought I can't think of another Roy. Chris Chris Dying Jersey. Shore gotta go get water. I'm really don't you're sharing water. made it seem like an emergency I'm really worried about him turning into his dad like He. He's doing the coughing thing now. He's getting it from his dad man. That's a good question. There's a lot I still the challenges so great you. So is there. Watch the challenge. Now I haven't watched the challenge all the way through like from when I was like a young buck to now I I caught back up on the challenge a couple of years ago. I'd say the man the challenge now is not what the challenge then was like the challenge now is basically across Rospa competition like every week and then they just like show you all the debauchery that goes on behind the scenes up in the house. There's not even so much hooking up anymore there's just like a lot of fighting and the thing about the challenge that makes me kind of sad. Is that like I see a lot of the same fights and a lot of this stuff and then I look at them like you're or forty five like why are we still having these same fights over and present. TV So bringing you back is just because you've been on the challenge for like twelve years and like you're one of the favorites favorites like I wonder why that were feel like they're out of the demo. What do you mean like if bright the challenge is like really high ratings? The challenge has like an older demo. It has to Oh Savings Jersey shore. No but they they like inject new life into the challenge. So you have like the old savvy. Vets y'all around West was in it this this season and west and Johnny Bananas Will Just never be on the same page. It doesn't matter. It could be all the young people so this season on the poor. What about those are the big take three took some time off? I think he came back. And here's an interesting an interesting thing about the challenge and if we do like a whole challenge thing which we could do and I could talk to Charlie craft up to because he loves the challenge also we looked up like the size in Hyde and all that of the challenge competitors. CT You look at him right. He's not a huge coach. He's a how I would imagine six three and like I don't know I don't show they google. CT They show him and C.. T. Yeah Yeah. They'll just come up with the challenge. Okay see tonight so. CT Mississippi looks like a monster. And they haven't being like this crazy. He's six six feet tall. Oh my God that's all and I'm not saying sixty taller. That's nothing but like they say him they show these people they looked like warriors like he's CAMIs towering over everybody else they have this new guy that that's Paula's name right. So paulie super jacked also. and He's good at competitions. He mounts off if a little too much like its mouth gets him in Detroit. But he's good at all the competitions and you see them you're like man that guy's jacked right in spoiler alert in the finale. This year of the challenge. Paulie is like passing out and like his body is giving up on him because they made the last competition like crazier and crazier every year. And then he goes. I'm only a hundred and fifty pounds. Like what like like. And he's like five six or something they're not like these people running your mouth is how you that's how you get staying power though I the knowing where do I know this from. And he's so. I have a question before. We know him personally. No from real world s because that was so. That's that's where the I I feel like I know where this question's going because like I know people from yeah because a challenge used to be real world versus road rules challenge Eh. They stopped doing road rules and essentially stopped doing real world. Even though they had I think like a special facebook season a couple years ago there was like just on facebook worthy new contestants coming from so they get the contestants from there like dating shows after like. Oh yeah so. They started getting a bunch of people from our either one which it was a dating show which I love. Are you great. They brought in some. I don't know if they brought in people from ex on the beach and not they may have but then like two seasons ago they started bringing over like international like players from shows that are like on MTV and like Europe in different places. Eddie play so like the last two seasons. They've had the first season let's just last season was us against England and it was war of the worlds right and they had some people that weren't from the US or England and they really draft. Cat was on the British team the entire season. 'cause he was one of the free agents and he was drafted to the British team because the US didn't choose CT and spoiler alert. It costs them because the Brits ended up winning it's such a great show I love and now what they're doing is because they're bringing in people that haven't been on any shows now so like just to show you how it's become just across competition. They're like going out there. I don't know if it's like the Spartan yes spartan race. Yeah but I don't know if that's what it was but it's like one of those in like Oh try out for MTV's to challenge at your local sport and race and we're going to be appearances by ninety Johnny Bananas. I don't know who Johnny Bananas L.. Wow Yeah it's been a while. Even an is is like the Johnny Bananas China's we'll be eighty five and he'll still be on the challenge the Dawn. He's the guy who comes in there. He's all cocky like I'm the vet. He's like the Godfather and it's kind of funny because he I mean we're going doing really deep into the challenge we are we are and this will say this for a special episode. Scrape is not about the challenge right now on the air but this is how it words. Chris gave me this thing this. If you watch the water this is how it works. The older vets for whatever reason think that they're untouchable and like the young young people come in and they're just trying to prove themselves to the vets the entire time so for the most part. The vets are untouchable because no one will throw them into like the challenge where they decide. Who's who's going home because they're afraid of them so a lot of the older people just kind of skate the entire season and they never actually have to compete until like championship round? Because the young people like I don't WanNa on January as the old vets have become floaters because everybody's afraid of getting on their bad side so they just pick off. The young people like through intimidation and like mind games the whole time. We need to do a special big brother episode when Big Brother Rams backup. I do like these previews and we'll we'll have a challenge so much it is assists if I were to pick an MTV show. I think there was a question. We were trying to wait before we get to that so if we do the big brother thing that you were saying so we got sent avails from time to time and one of them was Tom Green and we should have Tom Green onto talks about big brother because he did celebrity big brother and he's like he was pretty good at it. He was just on the wrong side of the house when he did it. I would like to get Dr Will. Also she get Johnny Guy. Rose me the wrong way. You weren't a doctor. Will you watch when he was on now. I just kind of see like every season is we did Michael Jordan of big brother talks and I didn't see him so I don't have that respect for him so I just kind of see him as with all due. Respect the doctoral like this this annoying guy that I have to deal with every finale night. And he's like oh great doctor. We'll talk to all the people that lost the game again about how they should win. I'm going to rank like my favorite big brother players. I think Frank Watch listen to this show. You know Frank. Yes yes I like Frankie Frankie Frankie Guerande no. I didn't see that season. I saw that season. Frank is a guy with the curly hair. Yeah I'm pretty sure that he listens to the Shah a misses the metal sand. But I'M GONNA go get him to talk about brothers what I'm saying. Jeff Jeff America's sweethearts who did he Marry the the blonde girl. Oh yeah they did amazing race Jordan. Yeah Jeff and Jordan. I didn't see their season. But it's amazing range. F- was a hybrid all-stars with like new contestants and like he was just like an ultra competitive. That's that's another one where they kinda skate when they bring in lake past who has got every need to learn from belly or whatever he had the worst strategy but it works they on the challenge. They started bringing over people from big brother. Oh I forgot to tell you that they started bringing over. People from Big Brother has evil. Dick competed in the challenge. Now all right but I love Lee. Had Paulie was from big brother Josh. I'm from Miami Evil Evil Dick. The first season was like I kind of his relationship with his daughter. He found himself as evil or like he gained the nickname being call themselves. Thick and number one is obviously doctor. Will Roy nickname in high school doctor will since she brought me up. I think I'll change my favorite show answer on. MTV to singled out wows singled out. That's where This was on that hardwick. Dick Irvin Electra. And there was one special episode of Singled out where Bruce Lee. Roy was the guy that all the girls where like competing for time was his name and I actually struck up a bizarre friendship with the actor. That played Bruce Leroy because I went when I was a child actor when he was based in Miami. Meanwhile a bunch of casting calls so there you go humble Brag my favorite show that's not. TRL Is probably real world great seasons. I haven't watched it. I think the last one that I watched was Chicago so I'm dating myself but I think my favorite cities and ever it's Seattle is really good. Even though very controversial I'll go with back to New York where MS in coral had their storyline all season. That was really good Hawaii with Ruth. He was really good. It's kind of crazy. How MS became like He? He manifested that he became the MS when it seemed like it was just kind of like a joke thing but I did kind of get goosebumps at the like if you remember that season back to New York the way that that it closed and watch it all right. Ms gives like this whole speech. He finally seems to get on. The same page is coral. Always thought bring quarrel like in the wwe because that's like his all time nemesis. It's really not John. See why they hate each other they just could never you've had these people oil auditor. Yeah Yeah but ms like does like this whole Promo so in an empty house you personally the house because you know they do like this one by one year. He was the last one and he gave this epic Promo Goosebumps. I'm like I never saw. There's a wwe superstar ever. Yeah then he gave that Promo. I'm like you know what maybe maybe that transition US perfectly weight so as him and Kogo finally got on the same page. Now you call the cocoa to. Isn't that her name coral whatever they finally got on the same page. I think they've done the challenge since I've been on the same teams but every once in a while they'll be oil and water but this is a really long intro to what this mystery wrestling. Wow wrestling yeah you guys like wrestling. I love wrestling. You love love it more than like yeah. I love wrestling. I go to restaurants I used to love it. I go to Wrestlemainia every year even when I don't actually attend the event that go to the city because I like to be around. The atmosphere is complained that I did that last year. You go all the way and then you're like metlife stadium not a great stadium wrestlemanias. It's if you go to a wrestlemainia you'll realize uh-huh if you ever go to a live event while the ring looks so much bigger on television. This is so much bigger. The did you guys recreate any wrestling matches like with friends growing up like I had had a whole thing with a group of my friends the rest of my dad I never had. I think I have like trampoline wrestling my oldest friends that lived in my neighborhood growing up that I grew up with these is guys and a couple of girls actually like their sister. We like would record ourselves and we would like to entrance music we would arrive to the arena where I'd like the matches. The fire welcome the matches were in my dad and my dad's like where are Peru. It's like my dad. It's like my parents house. Game Room Curios. There's like and we would put four high top chairs at the corners because those would be the term buckles and we literally I would arrive. The camera would zoom in on me at open. My Dad's Corvette Adore and get out as if I'm arriving and I'd walk inside and I'd go into the bathroom. That's my waiting area. That would be my dressing room so I would enter the arena. They would get I mean coming in. How do I watch these videos? I would have. I would have like a bag with my outfit that I'm going to win the match and then I would get into the bathroom. You Change Range in the bathroom waiting to hear my entrance music because we had all those guys had those CDs Jarvis and writers nothing better than as a kid did living that life and getting to like here. You're you're entrance music. You walk out you like it was it was ready and I don't have any of those videos. I wish I didn't got a your dad. How they have to be? What was your music like do we? Were playing all different care wind up. Oh you'd be gained one point. I would triple Appalachian sister. Was Stephanie McMahon. So he no yes yeah we have that story line it was just really ever wrestle with no no. I never did that but I know you're a wrestling fan. Not so much now that you're a grown man with a family and a daughter but it's Tom a hook. The wearing your hat. No remember I used to wear a fishing hook unattached for a little bit. Yeah I remember that happened you were you were the longshoremen and why does that annoying wrestler. You'd be the longshoremen okay. Why does bring up something you used to do and knowing you because he got it completely wrong as I? Oh I didn't get it wrong. You used to wear a hook on your hat. That's a big wrestling fan. Yeah but a fallen off a little. What was what billy said? Y- in fact they said that I really. Who's your favorite wrestler of all time right? Oh it's It's the Rock I. He might talk to as well. Actually he really you sort of follow wrestling. You're certainly not a week to week. Viewer I am I think in this room. I'm probably the person that follows it the most billy billy does like watch like some of the key events and you keep an eye on it. I I'm going to be honest with you. Canceled my line. wwe what's it called network subscription. Because you're an aws year now. But I cancelled it after wrestlemanias for new Japan Pants. That's really what I would watch. I would watch like royal rumble and like Wrestlemainia and then like I tried to look as ways guys. We're on the road to Wrestlemania here the upcoming weekend between the Conference Championship Games and the Super Bowl you know what that means. Let Royal Rumble Rumble coming up at the royal rumble. Is that week. Wow officially begins the road to Wrestlemainia which is like if you start following. I don't like the pay per view in between Royal Rumble and Wrestlemainia because it's such a BS pay per view the Limitation Sharing Berg. That is like I feel like there's always like oh we're fighting for the championship and it's like you've been promoting the wrestlemainia main event for like two months Salaam. I know that the Tam not going to change hands here. I'm with you. It's just a waste of their time. There should not be a pay per view in between Royal Rumble and Wrestlemainia. It'd it'd be just built for telling you know what I would like. I would like for like the Monday night raw before Wrestlemainia or whatever it is it's not WCW visit before you know the one right before smackdown. Yeah I would like for the championship to change hands like that episode and then like Wrestlemanias like Whoa. This is totally different main event. Because there's a new champion printed up all these posts and that never happens. You know it's weird. Yeah you would think like. Just what are the chances. I mean you'd think once it's the champion would lose before wrestlemainia right. How is the champion? Always wins right before. They're supposed to headline wrestlemainia breezy. So if you've listened to South beach obsessions in our radio. Show the Dan Lebatardshow by the way. Give South Beach Session for listen it is terrific. We did something different this most recent week where we actually took a topic not a subject subject like an interview subject. Dan explored what's going on in Australia. And Talk to a Robinson Myra writer for the Atlantic and he spoke to Ron McGill. It's certainly worth your time and saves the planet. The planet grew conscious. Save the planet so. Check that out if you've listened to South beach sessions and our show. You know that Tony Kahn. 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T. ziprecruiter dot com slash crate really dug deep allen. SIP recruiter. The smartest way to hire. Here's Tom supposed to be like Jill. Yeah I don't know all right. Here's a president of. Ah W Tony Kahn and myself talking wrestling. I hope you enjoy if you listen to the show you obviously. We know that I am the biggest wrestling fan on the show and Tony. Kahn has been gracious with his time. With South Beach sessions and sitting in the radio studio for an entire our our with us and I want to take the opportunity to just geek out over wrestling with you. Because I'm very passionate about this wrestlemainia every year. I'm very excited that you guys. This came onto the scene because I think competition makes all the products that much better you take it as a flattering thing when you see Vince McMahon and wwe because it probably is unfair to put it. Just Vince McMahon. When you see them doing things outside of the norm putting main roster stars on T. because they're going head to head with you on Wednesday even though I'm pretty sure both entities are on? The record is not really thinking of it as a competition. But you've got your eye on it and you probably think that's a curious decision. This is actually quite flattering during the I expected an xt would end up on television against us From the outset and I wasn't sure whether it would be on USA or Fox Doc. Sports one but I assumed it would be on either one or USA directly programmed against us as to our show. I wasn't at all surprised about that and I told. TNT from the outset. That was probably going to happen and it did happen. I just wasn't sure what channel and then I did. Expect the roster would get beefed up and you know actually probably happened about a months later than I expected and the hand Kinda got forest with the travel. Logistics problems that they had Do Two overseas shows that they've done and that Ended up leading to a lot more investment in that show and I wasn't surprised to see it with anything. I was probably surprised that it took a month as the president of all elite wrestling. And you're obviously you've been a wwe fan growing up do you. I was it. WWF and was there anything in particular that push you wait. You say that as if you're not a fan of the product. I'm not a fan of other wrestling products. I watch all wrestling shows but I can't really be a fan of any wrestling company anymore. You can't can't be a fan. I can't be a fan of other. NFL teams or other English football clubs either so it changes the way that you actually digest the product now. Do you miss being a fan sometime time. No in the same way that I don't miss you know what no I don't it's a little different with the NFL. Because of the viewing experience guy can still watch wrestling. I can't watch as much watching I don't spend as much time at home couch anymore with the NFL it actually changed everything because the NFL viewing experience. Amazing it's like you know the one downside of owning owning in NFL team and and traveling is like you don't get to sit at home and watch red zone ever and Sunday ticket. That's how good those products are and in wrestling. Yeah Change Change. Allies consumed it but that happened even in the lead up like scouting and watching everything and I. Yeah I you miss being a fan sometimes but I'd much rather be in the position. I'm in I think even being in the position that you're in sometimes you can still get lost in it and sometimes it just boils down to you being a fan. Do you ever sort of lose that that. Because you're you're in the gorilla position for these big shows now at some point you got to be just so geeked out over some of the stuff that you're watching you forget like Oh crap like I'm working gorilla. I never forget the timing because I never I have to do. The time cues but within you know within a it it what I find is really interesting is There have have been a few times where I have absolutely been pure fans the best moments we've had and really enjoyed them but you can't again when you have to keep an eye on the clock and you have to make make sure things are running smoothly you know you can't get that far into it and I think that's similar in sports so that's where I think being in professional sports before Kinda it did serve. Well I know that you're director of football operations for Fulham Football Club. You're the sporting director over there director of analytics for the Jacksonville and Bill. Jaguars so you probably don't have much to watch any of these things live. I know you say you can't be fan anymore but Tony Kahn. Still find himself waking up at three o'clock walk in the morning eastern time to see what's going on with new Japan wrestle kingdom going on but you're watching it sort of like scouting from business perspective. I mean I watch other companies shows IOS and when stuff's good I do enjoy it so I guess yeah I mean I still can appreciate it but you definitely watch through a different Lens like now when you watch. NFL Football Ball. You know you're looking at players and you know you want your friends to do well and I think that is similar like you have relationships with people in the business. That don't necessarily work for you. You you like them and you want him to do well. I was watching some of wrestle kingdom and some all elite wrestlers showed up from arrangements that were done even before they agreed to terms with Ali wrestling. Jon Moxley Oxley the former dean. Ambrose is titleholder over there and Chris Jericho his obviously been second wrestle kingdom that he just took third right Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah the Omega match in the Naito Match And now Donna Maha she so I know Chris Jericho some what he said after the wrestle kingdom I phase right now and it might put you in an awkward position because he mentioned specifically how much he would like for. Aws New Japan pro wrestling and have a working relationship. Is that something. That's sort of in the cards for you guys. Not I'M NOT ASKING I. I'm a pretty easy going. Nice Ace guy I I hope I've projected that while I'm here and a believe one good turn deserves another and I guess I'm still waiting for my good turn because because I let I've let them have access to a lot of people when I don't need to I have exclusive contracts with with Chris and John and when they came in they they. This was something that they wanted and I said yeah we can do that. I could yank them at any time. I haven't Because it's important to them. I do it for Chris and John Not for new Japan pro wrestling but if there were people at New Japan pro wrestling it was important to them to come and establish themselves in America on television which is not something they're able to do because they don't have a television show of their own in America then presumably they would come over to aws and make an impact with us no pun intended and I was in trouble like towards into that sense and if they'd like to send people over to work with US I'm open to it but I have some people over there to do things things and I haven't really stood people's way when they have wanted to work. Those shows as long as it doesn't impede US and Chris and John Haven't missed worked for me they've been out all my shows so it hasn't been an issue. They wouldn't go over there if it was going to interfere with what they're doing for Awa so they I think they see it as something complimentary so I'm not opposed to a working relationship and as I see like I've already done a lot of stuff for them so I guess I'm still waiting for something in return. I won't hold my breath. What sort of challenges come with now? This is weekly it's episodic TNT has been in the wrestling game in the past. But it's been a while what sort of production challenges have sort of popped up week to week that you didn't necessarily foresee you you are shows have looked great and I get tons of positive feedback. About how good this shows. Look I think a couple of times There were some sound issues that were out of our control. we've worked on With our network partner and they were like limited domestic issues and in some cases for the most part. I mean. I've been really really happy with our team. We have a crew of guys that's produced a lot wrestling shows. I mean Keith Mitchell. Our executive producer goes back so far in the business I mean not only did he work for the original. WCW He he came over right around the time Ted. Turner bought Jim Crockett promotions and and the NWEA's Crockett territory became WCW But Keith. Even before that that was producing World Class Championship Wrestling Dallas. Von Eric's in the early eighties. And so he goes back in wrestling production as far as anyone else in Keith Ethan. His crew have produced more wrestling pay per views than anybody. Except for Vince McMahon and his team. So he's the most experienced person in the business. You mentioned that you got you that that was available. Obviously Yeah Yeah You've mentioned that You can't really be a fan any more of the products. I do want to talk to con the Fan. So let's go back in time a little bit Ed. I sort of when I was graduating high school and in college I stopped watching wrestling altogether Part of that was the product and part of that was just my growth. But what brought me back was someone sent me a DVD. Knowing that I used to like wrestling and it was a ring of honor and I thought some of the stuff that they did in the early two thousands really building some stars people know seeing punk from what he did at wwe. But I thought he had some of the more compelling stories and this was like old school like DVD's the funniest that's old school now and instead used to be H. S. tapes but I would follow like all the stories that they tell us more Jones punk through. DVD's and that's what really ignited my passion back for the business. And I am stuck with it since you know those are those are so many talented wrestlers on those shows and when you look at the roster it's amazing how many people from that roster have gone on and done great things in wrestling But those shows didn't look good they were in small buildings and You know they came the kind of fall into specter of of WCW which had been this company where that was the number two company for a long time. They've been even the number one company at one point and their shows look great. They were on a great channel. The carried tons of credibility. And they're just having been anything like that in a long time. And that's what I wanted to bring back to wrestling like a roster with rustlers that were exciting to people but like when I look back. Those ring of honor shows. It's hard to be inspired by the company. Even though the wrestlers were great and they had some great stories back then when they started getting their hd net like Weekly television show is just like they lost tyler black. Who is now the Eh he fought Daniel Bryan for like One episode of Danielson Bryan Danielson American dragon chat out and then the stars sort of dissipated and it was so frustrating because they had already had their talent rosser totally rated by WWe which had notice. Everything went to the Nigel McGuinness. It's went to the TA and they had some interesting things. They did there at the time when Nigel McGuinness and the young box went and they change their names. And it's like wait who were Desmond Wolfe and generation me Yeah I didn't understand why they would change those guys names with when they built up great reputations and rustling people still with the young bucks joke joke all the time about generation me young bucks and this is sort of my heartache. I think the young bucks when people talk about the Pantheon everyone everyone does like these lists and it always seems just so weighted towards a pass because people get nostalgic and remember what the what things were like when they were growing up. I honestly think that young bucks are absolutely in the conversation grace tag team of all time. I agree with the work that they've done. Really I think to contemporary acts. Stick out its young bucks and new day because a new days really unlike any tag team. Well there's three guys in the temptation they haven't I like that. They've never sort of broken up and it's so easy to go that especially when Kofi goes on a singles around it so easy to do the played out sort of rockers storyline like I hope they keep them as a unit and happy. It's all power positively and I would really hate to see that disbanded but right up there with with the new day in terms of like match-quality the young bucks I think simply cannot be touched right now that is a major guys actually like market them as like a top line star which is so great to see with tag team wrestling. Like there's going to be a w cards were tag team and you've done it with dynamite but pay per views big time pay reviews were the tag team. Championship is a main yet. I mean some of the best matches we've had native of absolutely been the tag team matches and the young bucks and the loser. Brothers helped put the company on the map. You Watch that match The the The ladder match that they had any part of you is like I gotta worrying about protecting my investment here because there were are some bumps in there that were really mad took one that was just genuinely like is. He arrived at the table. Here it's going to be okay. Do you have conversations with this. I know you guys had a rather controversial storyline. With cody. Rhodes taking a chair shot. That wasn't as this story. Yeah the the idea of somebody taking a chair in wrestling. Isn't that shocking shocking. Talking now when you see like a a a chair being delivered to the head in American wrestling because wwe sort of there were a number of things about the execution of that that we're not the way it was supposed to be we don and now so i. I was pretty clear at the time I caught reduce pilot error. Because I thought we had come up with you know I didn't necessarily want anybody using it in the first place but if they were going to do it they were GonNa do it under certain guidelines and those guidelines were not followed. I understan- all that chair shots and sort of blood. That sort of reminds me of like at the E. W J's and there safer ways to do that. Yeah I was looking I WANNA be safer than he. Cw and that was supposed to be safer and that was It was not done the way it's supposed to be and it was addressed do you. You think that's something lacking not for the sake of doing it but I even had anything like that sense by the way since I that was our second show we'd ever done and it was before we started TV and it was. It was fighter fast and it was the second show done and you know I like I said it was addressed after that and I haven't anything like that. Since Moxley Omega had a very violent match you think there's a place for that sort of style when it comes to modern day wrestling storytelling on pay per view. I think there is You know for that. That kind of wrestling You know the hard core fans absolutely. I think there is as an audience for that and I wouldn't put a match like the Moxie Omega Lights out match on television but I think on pay per view the way it was done where we said like okay. Ah We're flipping the lights out and we're not responsible for what you see here. This is the end of the show and you know as far as the kids are concerned laughter. Cristiano versus cody. You can put him to bed. I really really liked that. You'd literally that's a cliche. Put the kids to bed. Match was actually quite funny. One more question for you because I know you gotta go here. I don't know it's What was come back? This is come on. I love to come back double or nothing. There seems as there's temple show in Chicago every year for the first couple years of your double or nothings in Vegas okay. I'm sorry. Yeah there was all out. Yeah there was all in and then it was all out it seems as though that's like the tentpole And then double or nothing came on the scene. Is that going to be like the sort of Wrestlemainia Wrestlemainia of all the double or nothing in Las Vegas. Is that the plan that we've got a big four right now that we were building around we've done set the the kid in you the wwe. Because when I was growing up survivor series royal rumble wrestlemainia Summer Slam. Sure I think there's you know if that helps you know I'm just no I A major the big. We've got the majors exactly the Grand Slam Golf and tennis. You got the big everything has four. I don't I think the end there's room for other are great shows too. I think these are four. We've established and we have other. You know I also I'd like to do you know fighter fast again and we've built up a big four though. Oh and it's you know double or nothing in Las Vegas Memorial Day weekend all out In the Chicago area which is Labor Day weekend. And then you you know in November. We've done full gear this past year. Which went great in Baltimore and I'm not sure as opposed to double or nothing being an all out where I really think those are going to stay around the Vegas in Chicago area? I'd like to go back to Baltimore for full gear. Believe not locked in a location for full gear. So that could that could be that could be a show that kind of moves around potentially but They've we had a great experience in Baltimore and then Also we've got a big show coming up that sold out minutes which were doing for the the first time in February twenty-ninth leap day in Chicago. It will be our next big pay per view revolution and that's going to have a huge huge huge card and it'll be the first time we've done revolution so who knows where that will fit in the hierarchy of this but I do think it's going to be huge. You'd show for US revolution. I'd like to be able to do it every year. But this is the first time we've done it let's Seattle goes it's in conjunction AC- too. It's pretty cool because I'm from Illinois. We've done all out and an episode of dynamite in the Schaumburg area area Hoffman estates the sears centre which is a suburb of Chicago and people are always like. Oh you've done to shows in Chicago we've never done a show in Chicago but revolution is is in Chicago at the wintrust arena. So we'll actually be debut in the city wrestling crowd on the way out here. I'd like to convince you to do a show at craven cottage. Just Mary. All the world's I would I'd love to do it. I've actually been to craven cottage with the box. Actually and we looked at it. and IT'S A it's a big venue and a big outdoor venue and when when we do our debut and show in England. I'm not sure the cause you'll be the first place you'd want. We'd go but it would be a great place to a wrestling any day. Any day I can spend at. The cottage is a good. It's such a classic venue and it'd be so called the C O wrestling show at the cottage. It'd be All Time I can't thank you enough for being so generous with your time. I know you gotta go. Hopefully occasionally when he got a big I shall we can get together and catch up and maybe talk about your product a little bit more because Fan of what you guys around this Wednesday she go to the show. Oh I would love to be great. Yeah we love up to. We'll get you in so much now. I'm not GonNa lie going into that interview you think this guy's got a a lot of dough right. Yeah but this guy. He's very down to Earth normal guy. Yeah that was my big takeaway from meeting him and being around him for like an hour or so he just seemed like he was hanging out like I expected him to be like someone. Get me some caviar mino- he was just like what's up guys be wrestling person. Someone get three some caviar right now. Tony Kahn is not that. Yeah did you zooming. I want backstage at A. I was wondering I saw Mike and he had like a sticker on his shirt. I like that seems like yeah. It seems like something so I went back sage and I'm not going to say you know there's a code. You don't say what really happens by the curtain but I saw I saw Tony and I i Jericho walk past me. But we didn't exactly lock eyes and if we locked down zone. Yeah well I mean yeah. He's in the zone like what's he in last night or he did wrestle. Wrestle can't say last night references bashing the thirty happened at Fascism live he apparently he attacked on Moxley. Well Well No. He did more than that. I think that Jon Moxley lost an eyeball authorities. Sure I what I saw last night. Was Jon Moxley lose eyeball and then. He came back with the patch. Yeah most curious these wrestling things. I think he's going to be wrestling on a cruise ship with an IPAD. IPAD thinks him a pirate water. Here's what I'm trying hanged figure out if I interpreted what happened yesterday properly or not yesterday on. What really is just GONNA pretend to not have an eye for awhile and and so is his grow back because this seems like something? It's hard to kind of explain how you didn't have an eye for a while. And now you have an unless he gets an eye implant. I don't think I love this angle. That's going on now. I don't think he'd lost. I think he took severe damage to the his. I Yeah I you know. I was under the impression Russian. He Lost Niveau last heels quicker and the other part of your body. It doesn't grow back if is also like looking to see if I could see see the eyeball like somewhere but no no. But it's gone. He I mean you came back with no came back with an eye patch. And then everybody was referring into the fact that he lost deny. Do you think that this is just a rib for them to have like a pirate on a cruise ship. I don't know how quickly your I can grow back once it's gone. That's the thing about Derek. When he took it because he took out a spike to do it he? Yeah that didn't get it from under the ring he had. You could have broken it off his jacket. The looking like a porcupine he didn't it would have been really. Can you imagine if you like display. John Moxley's I in Phoenix style. Bash at the beach was something I like I. I've never seen a w show before and I knew some of the performers because they're you know wrestling people that have been around before I'd live Chris Jericho and DP. There's other guys dean. Ambrose was wrestling remember. Gold dust gold us was wrestling as Dustin Rhodes cody it. Didn't roads name name. Does he wrote this. Other son is like one of the main. I mean Tony. Shivani is back good old Jr.. I love love that everybody was dressed like they were at the beach. Yeah Tony Shivani I mean he needs a tanning is to go to the beach. Hurry especially quite Pale quite pale. He is so never mind. And so you could use a little hero. Chris Harris kind of long. Tony Shivani. Yeah I couldn't believe that a Tony Shivani. Sad I mean it was why I lose it. I The ball you guy it made me want to go on the cruise he Chris he lost an eyeball lost an eyeball. And then you're like okay. Well he's the guy that was in. The ring was like well. I'm the number one contender now. Because he lost it I have also. He's not going to be able to find anymore and then they did the classic. Oh my God we need to go behind the seeds. He broke out of the ambulance. And he's coming and now he has an eye patch and he's clever in blood. That wasn't there when he was in the ring but now it was so green one little nugget that I will get so russell sage. I was backstage. And they have like a a place like where the talent can watch. What's going on? Yeah and one of the DUDES THERE WAS MR ask. It's what Mr was backsied. Billy Gunn Yeah is he asked now no well no. He's not Mr but I think bill Kip Moore forgotten what. No KIP. Moore is a country music singer. I think he's music saying no no. He's he's was naming impact mistress. was there that was really cool. So that's why he stuff because he now switched he works for a w did they take like who does eight. W have that used used to be cody. They took Malingco right. Did I read that or no. I saw demon go back. Say the man of a thousand holes. It was weird because like Jericho walk past. That's how I was like. Wow the band thousand one hold. Yeah and then Malingco is like the man of only one thousand waited that you're processing all of this. Yeah yeah well no I told my friend said that's one of my favorite promos air ever Jericho trying to prove that. He had one more hold than de Milan. Time I very agents agents move seventeen arm bar as a kid. I did not appreciate Jericho and his time in. WCW Like watching on Youtube. I really appreciate reshape this stuff that he was doing. Because I was like you know. Twelve years old ten years whatever it was and I was like attracted to barker's in the fireworks extinct versus W. O. and all this and I'd like the cruiserweight matches I liked the disco inferno gimmick when I was a kid because I was like. Oh yeah I know Jericho honestly honestly when you look at his career and scope the way that he reinvented himself. WWF The fact that he had like a rivalry Gobert without really never like my favorite guy under you if you go back and watch the stuff that he would do on Youtube. You're like man. This guy was like a genius doing some of this stuff and he was like doc. They totally didn't appreciate what he was doing at all like they had him buried like at the end of the show or like ours. Or whatever where you could totally get why he didn't. He had the security thirty gardening. Ralph is that was just no lie. I've read about. He was just a truck driver. That would drive the equipment for WCW and this guy cut off. He gave them a crop top and his stomach would come out because he's like this big fat bald guy that didn't have teeth and he would play this menacing security guard that he would just like go to fans wave his finger. I wanted to ask Jericho about. Ralph is that's the only thing I wanted to ask them about but I didn't because I didn't want to be like a Weirdo wrestling nerd talking to him. Well he's friends with sue God's down so I imagine you'll have the opportunity to burn that bridge a one hundred percent I think that was Jerry Lewis last appearance on the show because to God's is going to Piss off well I. I hope you enjoyed this episode. which was a hybrid between wrestling and a real world road rules? Challenge is just a challenge. It's just a challenge but this again friends was not the challenge epis