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"woodruff swan" Discussed on WCPT 820
"I'm willing to now say, the Department of Justice is only taking Donald Trump seriously and is fully engaged in an investigation for multiple crimes. We know that they're looking at many crimes besides records act violations. And records act violations are not to be sneezed at. I mean, they're important part of how we run our government about transparency, it's also about protecting national security. We know he leaked information the Russians. From Israeli sources. So he's not above leaking. Now the president can declassify. So anything that he has there, maybe he declassified before he took him out of The White House. Once he's out of The White House, he doesn't have that power, but he declassify him. You know, I don't know. It doesn't since he lies about everything. Is there a way we know when he declassified that if he did the class before you know? No, there isn't. Yeah, because it should be because there is a process for declassifying and marking things as, you know, if you off the classification marks, so maybe there is a way to find out if he's lying that he did it before, but that's tricky. But that's what you're right. He does think he has like Spidey sense and superpowers after he left The White House like executive coverage. And he doesn't. So you're right. If he said, I did it when I got here. It's like, no, you weren't present anymore. That's right. The minute he got on that plane at 12, well, maybe he got on before the inauguration started. But he's the one you lose your baby. He was not president. Right. Sorry, whiny loser baby is a technical legal term. Yes, I think that's a good one. I think that's a good one. And by the way, I should have, of course, that it was when we said Republicans, it was your father's presidential running mate who went to The White House and said, you will be convicted in the Senate. If you do not resign. Yeah. So that's, you know, score one for your father. Yeah. Right? It was John dean that wrote the original, what was Barry's book? Conservatives with conscience and conservatives without conscience. Yeah, interesting. Well, anyway, yeah, I mean, I guess I'm just, we're just curious at what stage what investigation is because we don't even know what all is going on. And that's the important thing to note. We don't know. I originally said, oh, they would never issue a search warrant for these documents because there are so many other steps. Well, prior to doing that, that was my first reaction when I heard it. Now, as I read the reporting and Betsy Woodruff Swan at yesterday on a panel, I was on that, you know, she had definitely confirmed that that was what it was. And as I said, I haven't seen it the search warrant, so I can't say that that's what it says. But I think she's a very credible reporter. And so I take her point of view and think, well, then maybe it is just that. Yeah, you mentioned national security and we were saying, is it Russia stuff? What would Paul Manafort finally admitting what we all knew from the beginning that he shared polling internal polling data with Russia? I mean, he's finally, so I'm just wondering, you know, what stuff we're going to find. What's in there? Russia's stuff, incriminating, but something that may impact national security. It could be who knows it could be related to Ukraine, which is certainly his withholding when for a day, and it was more than a day that he withheld weapons that they very much needed in anticipation of what has now materialized into this horrendous improper attack. Is really terrible. Maybe it has something to do with that. We just don't know. The thing about government documents is there's seldom only one happy. Unless they're his handwritten notes. There's someone else who needed. And Jill real quick. Since you brought that up, the Secret Service and Homeland Security and Pentagon texts. Is your take that we will find those that they are somewhere or yeah, I mean, unless it was done so deliberately by a real expert, things don't disappear. Let's go from a to B and we also have the senders and the recipients. We know who the agents are who were on duty at the time. Supposedly we now do because the government has turned over the phone numbers of those agents. And so that means they have the names of those agents. Let's ask the agents what was going on that day. What's your memory? Yeah. And let's do it sooner rather than later before memories fade. Maybe they got the expert that acid watch Hillary's risotto recipes. Okay. These are the jokes. Yes. I mean, it would take a real expert to actually make them superior from the cloud. And of course, that is a clear violation of the records act. Yeah. Because you can not wipe a phone clean without uploading them, because everything on that phone is a government record. There's a clear violation. Only from the day they tried to overthrow the government Jill. It's not like it was important today. Wow. Okay. Ten times Watergate. Tell them to the tenth power on steroids. Way worse. Way worse. Thank you, honey. Can't wait for the movie. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Thank you, thank you. All right. There she goes, Jill wine banks, 52 minutes after the hour, we roll along on the Stephanie
"woodruff swan" Discussed on WCPT 820
"I'm willing to now say, the Department of Justice is only taking Donald Trump seriously and is fully engaged in an investigation of multiple crimes. We know that they're looking at many crimes besides records act violations. And records act violations are not to be sneezed at. I mean, they're important part of how we run our government about transparency. It's also about protecting national security. We know him leaked information the Russians. From Israeli sources. So he's not above leaking. Now the president can declassify. So anything that he has there, maybe he declassified before he took him out of The White House. Once he's out of The White House, he doesn't have that power, but he declassify him. You know, I don't know. It doesn't since he lies about everything. Is there a way we know when he declassified that if he did the class? No. No. There isn't. Yeah, because it should be because there is a process for declassifying and marking things as, you know, taking off the classification marks. So maybe there is a way to find out if he's lying that he did it before, but that's tricky. But that's what you're right. He does think he has like Spidey sense and superpowers after he left The White House like executive poverty and he doesn't. So you're right. If he said, oh, I did it when I got here. It's like, no, you weren't president anymore. That's right. The minute he got on that plane at 12, well, maybe he got on before the inauguration started. But he's a winning wizard baby. He was not president. Right. Sorry, whiny loser baby is a technical legal term. Yes, I think that's a good one. I think that's a good one. And by the way, I should have, of course, that it was when we said Republicans and it was your father's presidential running mate who went to The White House and said, you will be convicted in the Senate. If you do not resign. Yeah. So that's, you know, score one for your father. Yeah. Right? It was John dean that wrote the original, what was Barry's book? Conservatives with conscience and conservatives without conscience. Yeah, interesting. Well, anyway, yeah, I mean, I guess I'm just, we're just curious at what stage what investigation is because we don't even know what all is going on. And that's the important thing to know is we don't know. I originally said, oh, they would never issue a search warrant for these documents because there are so many other steps. Well, prior to doing that, that was my first reaction when I heard it. Now, as I read the reporting and Betsy Woodruff Swan had yesterday on a panel I was on that she had definitely confirmed that that was what it was. And as I said, I haven't seen it the search warrant, so I can't say that that's what it says. But I think she's a very credible reporter. And so I take her point of view and think, well, then maybe it is just that. Yeah, you mentioned national security. And we were saying, is it Russia stuff? What would Paul Manafort finally admitting what we all knew from the beginning that he shared polling internal polling data with Russia? I mean, he's finally, so I'm just wondering, you know, what stuff we're going to find. What's in there? Russia's stuff incriminating. But something that may impact national security could be. Who knows it could be related to Ukraine, which is certainly his withholding even for a day, and it was more than a day that he withhold weapons that they very much needed in anticipation of what has now materialized into this horrendous improper attack. Is really terrible. Maybe it has something to do with that. We just don't know. The thing about government documents is there's seldom only one happy. And unless his handwritten notes, there's someone else. And Jill real quick. Since you brought that up, the Secret Service and Homeland Security and Pentagon texts. Is your take that we will find those that they are somewhere or yeah, I mean, unless it was done so deliberately by a real expert, this things don't disappear. Let's go from a to B and we also have the senders and the recipients. We know who the agents are who were on duty at the time supposedly we now do because the government has turned over the phone numbers of those ages. And so that means they have the names of those agents. Let's ask the agents what was going on that day. What's your memory? Yeah. And let's do it sooner rather than later before memories aid. Maybe they got the expert that acid watch Hillary's risotto recipes. These are the jokes. Yes. I mean, it would take a real expert to actually make them superior from the cloud. And of course, that is a clear violation of the records act. Yeah. Because you can not wipe a phone clean without uploading them, because everything I had phone is a government record. There's a clear violation. Only from the day they tried to overthrow the government, Jill. It's not like it was important day. Wow. Okay. Ten times Watergate. To the tenth power on steroids. Way worse. Way worse. Thank you, honey. Can't wait for the movie. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Thank you, thank you. All right. There she goes, Jill wine banks, 52 minutes after the hour, we roll along on the Stephanie Miller show
"woodruff swan" Discussed on ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes
"Well, Liz, we appreciate your time as always, and good luck out there on the campaign trail. Thanks so much, Todd. All right, Liz, Harrington, everybody. With president Trump, his spokesperson, always good to have Liz on the program. By the way, Politico's got a story up now. They're flushing out this report. The Secret Service now saying that the January 6th committee did not reach out to them in the days before yesterday's hearing. This is from Betsy Woodruff swan. The Secret Service telling Politico that to the select committee investigators did not ask a Secret Service personnel to reappear or answer questions in writing and the ten days before asking Hutchinson about the matter at the hearing. Quote, we were not asked to reappear before the committee and response to the new information and replan on formally responding on the record. We have and will continue to make any member of the Secret Service available. So now you have to ask yourself this question, why is it that that committee they don't want the Secret Service testifying on the record? Is it possible because they will tell the truth and Cassidy Hutchinson, their star witness will be exposed as a liar? Is that a possibility? We're going to keep you updated on this. 8 four four 747 88 68, that's our toll free telephone number. 8 four four 747 88 68. Now grace baker, senator Ted Cruz is very upset. With Elmo. I'm going to say the border. The Sesame Street Muppet. So Elmo is are there more than one is there more than one Elmo is because they The Washington Post describes the puppet this way young puppet Elmo. I don't know why they describe it that way. I mean, there's like a mom and a dad a moment maybe. And that's why? Okay, so oh, well it is. I didn't realize, yes, little Elmo has a father Muppet called Louie. And so Elmo is three and a half years old. And the Sesame Street lore, and little Elmo just got his, oh, this is big. Little Elmo just got his China virus vaccine. So anyway, now Ted Cruz is very upset because he says there's no scientific backing here to say that three and a half year old Muppets need to be getting China virus vaccines, grace pain. That's a fair point. I mean, is there data to support a Muppet getting a vaccine? I didn't know they needed back to you. So this is really all about, this is really all about indoctrination and propaganda. All right, so we've got this audio here. All right, so this is a little Elmo talking to his father Louis about getting the China virus vaccine. Let's listen. Just like Elmo. You were super duper today. Getting your COVID vaccine Elmo. There was a little pinch, but that was okay. Elmo was really glad to have daddy and baby David. Baby David. I had a lot of questions about Elmo getting the COVID vaccine. Was it safe? Was it the right decision? I talked to our pediatrician so I could make the right choice. I learned that Elmo getting vaccinated is the best way to keep himself, our Friends, neighbors, and everyone else. Healthy and enjoy them, the things they love. Oh, Elmo and baby David have a question. Can we have a hug? Oh, come here, son. I love you too. It's okay to have questions about COVID vaccines for your kids. Get the latest facts by speaking to your pediatrician or healthcare provider. I have a question. I have a question. Grace baker. Well, you're not a parent, but go ahead. You can ask a question. So to my knowledge. So I have a question here about this vaccine. Sorry, continue. It's all right. I want to take your question very seriously. Thank you. The little Elmo, did he sound like that before he got the vaccine? I think so sources say yes, but that is a frightening voice. In the back. Hello, daddy. I don't know, that just sounds weird. That's just Elmo for you. All right, is that the one that goes around tickling people? Yeah, tickle me Elmo. Okay. We all knew there was a problem when they came out with the toy called tickle me elbow. Yeah, especially in today's age. Oh, was it? All right. And that's where it all started. I see. So Elmo as a three and a half year old is now getting the getting the vaccine. Yes. And he's very glad he did it. Well, it does make you wonder what happens grace baker when they unleash the monkey pox. I mean, can you imagine what they're going to be doing over it? Sesame Street with that happens. It's going to be pandemonium. Yeah. All right. It'll be interesting. We'll see. We'll see there. Okay, so there you go, folks. Sesame Street. Now I'm telling three and a half year olds that you've got to get the vaccine and then your voice will never change. 844-747-8868. That's unfortunate. That's 844-747-8868 will be right back. We can't see tomorrow, but we can hear it. And it sounds like a renewable natural gas bus, replacing conventional fleets. We're bridging to a sustainable energy future, working today to ensure tomorrow is on, Enbridge, life takes energy..
"woodruff swan" Discussed on ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes
"All right, somebody from Politico was clearly listening to the first segment of the show. This coming from Betsy Woodruff Swan, the Secret Service spokesman. Now says that in the ten days before the hearing, the January 6th committee did not reach out to them for more details regarding the ride and the beast. So why do you think that is? We're gonna reach out to Liz Cheney's office, as a matter of fact, grace, let's get let's see if Liz Cheney spokesperson will come on the program. Maybe they can explain why is it that you did not reach out to the Secret Service? I mean, you have somebody testifying and this person testifying under oath using hearsay when in fact you could have just picked up the phone and called down to the Secret Service and asked them what happened, but nobody did that. And again, I suspect it's because this is really not about guilt or innocence. This is about putting doubt into the minds of every American citizen. They want you to believe that Donald Trump beat up a couple of Secret Service agents and tried to hijack the presidential limo. They want you to be lead that. And people believe it. People believe this crap. They want you to believe that the president was slinging around bottles of ketchup and breaking the porcelain plates in The White House. They want you to believe that because when election time comes along, there's going to be some doubt and you're not going to remember all of this. But what you will remember is, oh, wait a second. They said that Trump beat up his Secret Service detail. And he tried to overpower them and commandeer the presidential limo. I can't vote for that guy. This guy swings around ketchup. We can't be wasting catch up. It costs too much money these days. He squanders ketchup. I can't vote for that guy. That's what this is really all about. And by the way, we're going to get to the phones here. By the way, Hillary Clinton lurking in the shadows, lurking, and it looks like she very well may be jumping into the race. She was asked about it. And notice that she did not say no in her in her response. So there's a good chance Hillary Clinton could be the Democrat nominee in 2024. What a rematch that would be. And the Democrats are terrified. That's why they're trying to destroy this guy. All right, let's go to the phones WSJ S in North Carolina, Blake on the line, Blake, what's going on? How you doing? I'm doing well. On the Cassidy Hutchins, the two stories, the one in the limo and the other story about the catch up on the law on that. Those are easy. Those are bringing other people in and put them under oath. And if they understand the constitution and don't like perjury charges, brought against them, then they'll tell the truth. Why do you think they didn't do that Blake? I mean, they had the opportunity. Honestly, I have no idea. I think it was such a fault from that committee that they've laid out pretty good evidence as it's gone forward. They have a number of the right people to talk in front of them, but they didn't do their due diligence here. And they've left an opening for shows like you to really exploit that. And you should, because it was a huge mistake on there. What do you mean shows like? Just conservative talk shows. That's all I mean. All right. You have more of a conservative then. You know, that's all I mean. Fair enough..
"woodruff swan" Discussed on POLITICO Playbook Audio Briefing
"Presented by meadow. Hey, good morning, playbook or some Brooklyn one of Allen, it's a Wednesday. Yesterday's January 6th hearing probably couldn't have gone much worse for Donald Trump. It's your Politico playbook daily briefing. With vivid stories told in measured tones, Cassidy Hutchinson, a former special assistant to the president, who worked as an aide to chief of staff Mark Meadows, quote stitched together every element of the panel's case against Donald Trump. But it goes called Cheney and Nicholas were right. Quote, the capital right committee has painted the former president's potential criminal culpability for his effort to overturn the election and stark Hughes. Investigators have portrayed Trump fuming atop an increasingly conservative west wing, and working to corrupt the peaceful transfer of power at any cost. There's a longer breakdown in today's playbook, but among the stunning revelations and Hutchinson's testimony. Trump knew that supporters on January 6th were armed and didn't care. Trump demanded his team taken to the capitol. When the motorcade refused to go to the capitol, Trump angrily grabbed the steering wheel and allegedly assaulted a Secret Service agent. Trump agreed with writers that vice president Mike Pence quote deserved to be hanged. Meadows and Giuliani were entrusted in pardons from Trump for their actions related to January 6th, and attempts to overturn the election. Though the former president took the truth social to deny the most damning testimony and attack Hutchinson, much of Trump world has been quiet and most Republicans aren't pushing back on the core of the testimony. Even as some suggest that her most explosive allegations are supposedly hearsay. Michael bender Maggie haberman from The New York Times write quote, current and former aides to mister Trump sent one another messages of the hearing took place, describing a series of disclosures that they conceded were potentially quite damaging, mostly politically, but also potentially legally. Our own calcium writes in quote, Trump allies will seek out any potentially disputable aspect of her testimony and use it to discredit her entirely. The select committee has also staked a lot on Hutchinson's credibility holding up. There was lots of confidence from the panel after Tuesday's hearing that she had delivered effectively. Former White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney had this to say, quote, this is explosive stuff. I know her. I don't think she's lying. Here's the question, though, what comes next? Legally, Devlin Barrett from The Washington Post writes that, quote, in Hutchinson's testimony, experts see nuggets for justice probe, New York Times Peter baker, quote, but did Trump commit a crime. This is the smoking gun, so weissenberg, a former deputy to Kent star, tells me about today's hearing. There isn't any question this establishes a prima facie case for his criminal culpability on seditious conspiracy charges. For the committee, political Betsy Woodruff Swan and Nicholas we write quote, Ginny Thomas lawyer has serious concerns about January 6th committee fairness. Kyle Cheney, quote eastman drops bid to block phone records from January 6th committee. Politically, CNN's Gabby orr and Pamela Brown Wright, quote the startling revelations from Hutchinson's testimony about Trump's erratic behavior and state of mind on January 6th can make it easier for Republican presidential hopefuls to challenge the former president in a primary, should he run a Trump ally added. This is basically a campaign commercial for Florida governor Ron DeSantis 2024. Here's what's up in Washington today starting with The White House, president Joe Biden has already participated in a greeting with native secretary general Jens Stoltenberg and attended a meeting with NATO heads of state and government still to come. Meetings with the South Korean president, Japanese prime minister, another NATO meeting, a meeting with Turkish president Erdoğan, and a transatlantic dinner hosted by Spanish prime minister Pedro Sanchez. Vice president Kamala Harris heads to San Francisco at two 45 today. The House and the Senate are out today. All right, for more news and recap.
"woodruff swan" Discussed on POLITICO Playbook Audio Briefing
"On Monday afternoon, the house January 6th committee, which was supposed to be on a hiatus for the next two weeks. Abruptly announced it would be holding a hearing today at 1 p.m. to quote present recently obtained evidence and received witness testimony. The star witness today is Cassidy Hutchinson, a former executive assistant to ex chief of staff Mark Meadows, who's already testified three times behind closed doors back in February, March and May. Hutchinson quite simply knows a lot before, on and after January 6th, she had close proximity to both Meadows and then president Donald Trump. She told the committee back in March, quote, almost all, if not all meetings mister Trump had, I had insight on. She's already been the source of a series of extraordinary revelations. Politico's Betsy Woodruff Swan and calcium reported back in May that Hutchinson, quote, told the panel investigating the capitol attack that she saw Meadows incinerate documents after meeting in his office with representative Scott Perry, Hutchinson testified that she remembered a Secret Service agent while coming in and saying that we had Intel reports saying that there could potentially be violence on the 6th, Hutchinson told the committee that The White House counsel's office during a meeting with Meadows and Rudy Giuliani and others advised that the scheme to have alternate electors meet and cast votes for Trump was not legal. Hutchinson has given detailed testimony about a number of House Republicans who are involved with pressuring former vice president Mike Pence to reject electors during the joint session of Congress and encouraging protesters to march on the capital January 6th. She was also the key source for the revelation that 6 House Republicans sought pardons from Trump for their roles in the events of January 6th. And in an extraordinary acceptor of her testimony that's been released, Hutchinson said that conversations about seizing voting machines appointing Sidney Powell as a special counsel and invoking martial law were stopped because, quote, it became clear that there would be mass resignations, including lawyers in The White House council's office. All of this has become known in recent months from information revealed in litigation, leaks to reporters, and video snippets of hutchison's testimony played during two of the committee's public hearings. Hudson was always going to be a crucial witness and seemed likely to go public in one of the committee's July hearings. What's not known is why the committee is rushing her out into public today. Put a recently reported that Hutchinson switched lawyers. Her previous council, Stephane passantino, the Trump White House's chief ethics lawyer, had ties to Trump world. Her new attorney, Jody hunt of alston bird, was the chief of staff to jet sessions when the former attorney general recused himself from the Russia investigation, which ruptured his relationship with Trump, hunts DoJ background has led to some speculation that today's hearing is somehow related to the department's recently stepped up activity on January 6th related matters. Last week, FBI agents acting on behalf of the DoJ IG's office seized the phone of lawyer John eastman and investigators raided the home of former DoJ official Jeffrey Clark. While the news of Hutchinson's appearance eventually leaked out last night, even some members of the committee were in the dark about the urgency of the meeting. It's possible there's more to the hearing than just her. There could be additional witnesses and the recent evidence the committee referred to might come from the footage obtained from documentary filmmaker Alex holder. Some new tips that have come to the committee's attention or new Trump White House documents that the national archives has agreed to hand over. Here's what's up in Washington today starting with The White House, president Joe Biden has already met with the German Chancellor Olaf shoals, French president Emmanuel Macron, and British prime minister Boris Johnson, and delivered remarks at the final session of the G 7 summit. He's now on his way to Madrid, still to come. Biden will head to Spain where he'll have a bilateral meeting with Spanish president Pedro Sanchez to talk Ukraine and Russia. Press secretary karine Jean Pierre, and national security adviser Jake Sullivan, will goggle an Air Force One on the wiener Madrid. The house is out today to January 6th committee will hold its latest hearing at 1 p.m.. The Senate is out today. It's also primary day in Colorado, Illinois, Mississippi, New York, Oklahoma, and Utah, according to Politico Steve shepherd, quote, Democrats have a lot riding on Tuesday's primaries, the Republican primaries that is. Facing hurricane force electoral headwinds in November, Democrats have launched an unprecedented effort to meddle in GOP nominating contests across the country. Elevating extreme candidates and attacking Republican hopefuls, they view as greater threats in the general election. Tuesday's races feature for races in which democratic candidates or groups are seeking to influence Republican primary voters, including a more than $30 million effort in the Illinois governor's race. There are also multi-million dollar campaigns to boost far right Republican statewide candidates in Colorado, the one time swing state were then president Donald Trump was trounced two years ago..
"woodruff swan" Discussed on POLITICO Playbook Audio Briefing
"The White House is looking to Virginia senator Mark Warner to help thaw out its frosty relationship with senator Joe Manchin in hopes of resurrecting president Joe Biden's build back better plan. To senior Senate sources of that Warner, one of Manchin's closest friends, and its former housemate will be involved in any future BBB talks. Manchin has said publicly that he's not negotiating with The White House, privately, he's been even more pessimistic, so to source close to Manchin, quote, he's not in the mindset of moving forward. Mention is complained about a lack of quote effective outreach or reset by top White House aides and blamed them for making the BBB negotiations to personal. Manchin has spoken to Steve rochette, Biden's hope whisperer, once since Christmas, but he's still angry with chief of staff Ron klain, who he believes told press secretary Jen Psaki to quote unleash the dogs in a heated White House statement after the senator announced on Fox News Sunday that he was no on the BBB. Spokespeople for both Warner and Biden demurred about the specifics of their Virginia senator's exact role in the effort to win over Manchin, a Warner spokesperson told playbook quote, senator Warner and senator Manchin are good friends, the toggle regularly, sometimes about policy, and sometimes to just shooting the breeze. I wouldn't call those conversations negotiations. Said White House spokesperson Andrew Bates, quote, a wide range of members are working on build back better. But senator Warner's not negotiating on behalf of The White House. However, they want to characterize the effort, they're still far from having mansion on board. The source close to ancient told playbook, I don't think they'll be able to coax him back into the BBB. He'll listen to Mark Warner, but he won't do what he wants. Also training the mansion lobbying effort, former president Bill Clinton, earlier this week, the big dog pitched mansion on supporting both BBB and voting rights reform. Still, Manchin seems unmoved. In meanwhile, a senior Senate source said that The White House discussed repackaging build back better by breaking off a piece or pieces of policy to revive the talks, adding that negotiations are still ongoing. News outlets flooded their feeds with coverage commemorating the anniversary of the January 6th insurrection, debating its effects on American politics and even occasionally shedding new light on the horrors of the day. One such story came from political Betsy Woodruff Swan, Christopher catalog, and Kyle Cheney, who broke Thursday afternoon that then vice president Kamala Harris was in the DNC building when a pipe bomb was discovered outside of the building on January 6th. It underscores just how close the nation came to a full blown constitutional crisis, just one year ago. When you're after the January 6th attack on the capitol, the political aftershocks are still reverberated. Characters like Donald Trump, I mean, truly sinister pathological narcissistic people like that. They don't stop. Our very own Rachel beat talks with representative Jamie Raskin, a democratic lawmaker who's been on the forefront trying to hold Trump accountable for years, and one who, in many ways, saw January 6th coming long ago. Subscribe to our weekly podcast playbook deep dive wherever you listen to podcasts to hear that story today. Here's what's up in Washington today starting with The White House. At ten 45 a.m. eastern, president Joe Biden will deliver remarks on the December jobs report. At 1115, the bidens will leave The White House for Colorado arriving at 5 p.m.. At 5 30, the Biden will tour neighborhood in Louisville. They'll then meet with families affected by the Marshall fire at 6 35 and Biden will speak briefly. At a time the bidens will leave the area to head to Las Vegas, arriving at ten 25. Principal deputy press secretary Jean Pierre will gaggle on Air Force One on the way to Colorado. All right, that's all I've got for you today. For more news, I want to breaking in D.C. right now. Subscribe to the playbook newsletter. That's at Politico dot com slash playbook. Our music is composed by the mysterious brake master cylinder. Playbooks editors Mike zapper, Jenny Ahmet is Politico senior producer of audio. I'm rugman of all and have a great weekend. We'll see first thing on day morning. Facebook leads the industry in stopping bad actors online. That's because they've invested $13 billion in teams and technology to enhance safety over the last 5 years. It's working in just the past few months they've taken down 1.7 billion fake accounts to stop bad actors from doing harm..
"woodruff swan" Discussed on POLITICO Playbook Audio Briefing
"Presented by blue cross blue shield association. Hey, what's a playbook or something to fall in? It's Monday and good news for people who like bad news. It's the return of debt ceiling drama. This is your political playbook daily briefing. Here's your scoop of the day, Politico's Betsy Woodruff's swan and Meredith McGraw report that, quote, a former D.C. National Guard official is accusing two senior army leaders of lying to Congress and participating in a secret attempt to rewrite the history of the military's response to the capital riot in a 36 page memo, colonel Earl Matthews, who held high level National Security Council and Pentagon roles during the Trump administration. Slams The Pentagon's inspector general for what he calls an error riddled report that protects the top army official who argued against sending the National Guard to the capitol on January 6th. That delayed the response to the insurrection for hours. Matisse's memo sent to the January 6th elect committee this month and obtained by Politico includes detailed recollections of the insurrection response as it calls two army generals, quote absolute and unmitigated liars for their characterization of the events of that day. Matthews has never publicly discussed the chaos of the capital siege. You can check out the rest of that story in today's playbook. Lawmakers return to Washington this week for what could be the trickiest issue of the month, the debt ceiling. House democratic leaders have discussed adding a provision addressing the dead ceiling to the final NDAA and voting on the as soon as this week. That's according to a senior democratic aide. That's assuming, of course, that compromise NDA language is ironed out between the two chambers. Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell has privately signaled to majority leader Chuck Schumer that he could go along with this idea, which would end their months long stalemate. But there are serious questions about whether this defense debt ceiling sandwich could pass the House. And much of that is because of one man who might typically be aligned with McConnell, but on this issue appears opposed. Kevin McCarthy. Before we get there, let's take a look at the tricky math. On the left, there are 38 House Democrats who voted against the NDAA, the first time it came to the Florence of timber. That was namely progressives who have long opposed the overall size of The Pentagon budget. Democratic leaders believed they could pick up some of those 38 if they tack on the debt ceiling solution, arguing it simply has to pass. The question is, how many do they get? They don't know yet. On the right, democratic leaders expect many of the 75 House Republicans who help pass the NDAA earlier this year will pill off if they added debt provision. That's especially true if they receive pressure from maga world, the freedom caucus or even GOP leaders to oppose the pairing. Still, Democrats who are a fan of this idea hope, a mix of defense minded GOP hawks, loathed to oppose any defense minded Bill, and more moderate Republicans eager to avoid default could compensate for any progressives they lose on the vote. They also acknowledged that this proposal could fall totally flat, leaving them scrambling to find another move this week. House minority leader Kevin McCarthy panned the NDA Dutch elling idea twice last week. Albeit rather gently. He said he doesn't think Democrats could get the votes and encourage the party to raise the debt ceiling on their own music reconciliation. As McConnell has been saying for months. Democrats seem to be hoping that McConnell can persuade McCarthy to give just enough GOP lawmakers and inconspicuous green light to vote for the combo and send it to the Senate. That seems naive, but he wants to be speaker and will almost certainly come under pressure from the far right to take a position and enforce it. We reached out to McCarthy's team last night to find out if he intended to whip his members against this bill, but didn't receive an answer. Here's the question, is there a plan B if this fails? Should wear McConnell's offices have been very circumspect about their ongoing dead silly negotiations? The two haven't been out there bashing each other or making demands on the issue the way they were a few months ago. Notably, McConnell hasn't been heard lately insisting Democrats need to use reconciliation to address it. Perhaps that's a good sign, but good feelings alone won't get the job done. Get ready for another crazy week. Here's what's up in Washington today, starting with The White House. President Joe Biden and vice president Kamala Harris will receive the president's daily brief. At 2 p.m., Biden will deliver remarks on prescription drugs, press secretary Jen Psaki will brief in 1 p.m., the Senate will meet a 3 p.m. the house is out until tomorrow. All right, that's all I've got for you today for more news and what's breaking in D.C. right now. Subscribe to the playbook newsletter. That's at Politico dot com slash playbook. Our music is composed by the mysterious breakmaster cylinder. I'm ragu naval and have a great week. We'll see you first thing tomorrow morning. The United States has the highest maternal death rate of any developed nation and racial disparities are a key factor. That's why blue cross and blue shield companies are confronting this crisis. They've launched a multiyear nationwide health equity strategy, starting with a goal to reduce racial disparities in maternal health building a more equitable system for the health of America..
"woodruff swan" Discussed on KMJ NOW
"M. K. M. J. Fresno, Okay. Google play K. M. J. Yeah. This Sunday. A divided America, people are enraged. On both sides of the issue, and it's completely tearing this community apart. The country split into on multiple fronts. One battlefield covid and masks. Masks do not stop the spread of this virus. It only stops the spread of friendship and learning. This is all smoke and mirrors. This is tyranny even as the pandemic is again killing 1500 Americans Today I feel like I'm in some weird Twilight zone. Why we're still going over wearing masks and having safe schools for our kids. It's Bananas. This morning, I'll talk to two governors trying to bridge that divide Larry Hogan, the Republican governor of Blue State, Maryland, and Andy Bashir, the Democratic governor of Red State, Kentucky. Plus the newly elevated fight over abortion. My body is Texas enacts the most restrictive abortion law in the country. Dismaying abortion rights advocates as a matter of reality versus Wade is a dead letter in Texas today, and the Supreme Court lets the law stand for now cheering abortion opponents. The child is a child that this person is a person my guest this morning. Former Democratic Senator Claire McCaskill of Missouri and former Republican congresswoman Barbara Comstock of Virginia. Also long term power outages in Louisiana record rainfall and flooding in the Northeast. What Hurricane Ida tells us about the threat of climate change? Joining me for insight and analysis? Are you Michel Cinder, the moderator of Washington week? Washington Post contributing columnist Matt by Betsy Woodruff Swan of Politico and Republican strategist Brendan Buck. Welcome to Sunday. It's meet the press. From NBC News in Washington, the longest running show in television history. This is meet the press with Chuck Todd. And.
"woodruff swan" Discussed on NBC Meet the Press
"This sunday divided america. People are raised on both sides of the issue and it's completely tearing community apart. The country split into multiple fronts. One battlefield coveted masks astronaut spreading this virus. It only stops to spend friendship. Learning this is tyranny even as the pandemic is again killing fifteen hundred americans today. I feel like. I'm in some weird twilight zone. Why we're still going over wearing masks and having saved schools for kids bananas this morning. I'll talk to two governors trying to bridge that. Divide larry hogan the republican governor of blue state man and the democratic governor of red state kentucky plus the newly elevated fight over abortion texas the next the most restrictive abortion law the country dismaying abortion rights advocates as a matter of reality roe versus wade is a dead letter in texas today and the supreme court. Let's the loss stand for now. Cheering abortion opponents. The child is that this person is a i. I guess this morning former democratic senator claire mccaskill of missouri and former republican congresswoman. Barbara comstock of virginia also long-term power outages in louisiana record rainfall and flooding in the northeast what hurricane ida tells us about the threat of climate. Change joining me for insight and analysis. Are you michelle. Cinder the moderator of washington. Week washington post contributing columnists. That buys betsy. Woodruff swan a politico and republican strategists. Brendan buck. Welcome to sunday. It's meet the press from nbc news in washington the longest running show in television history. This is meet the press with chuck. Todd and.
"woodruff swan" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"The us capitol police officer who shot and killed capital rider ashley. Babbitt on january six as remained concealed even as right wing politicians have called for that person's name to be released including foreign president trump. Tomorrow night. my colleague. Lester holt will sit down with that officer for an exclusive interview at the same time today. The house january sixth committee issued a sweep and records request asking the trump administration to turn over records of communication related to the assault on the capital and warning. That failure to do so would be met with subpoenas chairman. Bennie thompson demanded documents and communications related to more than thirty individuals including three of trump's children re guiliani mark meadows. Michael flynn steve. Bannon and roger stone among others the requests for sent to eight federal agencies most notably the national archives which maintains the white house records request drive home the seriousness and scope of the investigates. Betsy woodruff swan is a national correspondent. Politico there's been reporting on the january six insurrection the aftermath and she joins me now. Betsy i slightly misspoke there. In the interest of the trump administration which of course is no longer as a as a recipient the request. So who who are these requests directed to and can they purdue. They have the documents that are being asked. The requests are directed to the current officials. who head the different agencies. So lloyd austin at dod andre orcas at dha and then to the head of the national archives. That's important because these are none of these people obviously are trump apparatchiks now the steps that trump could take and which are statement. He put out tonight indicates he probably will would be to sue to ask a judge to block those different components of the government from participating and from producing these records. And what trump could do is he could say. This is a violation of executive privilege. Because it's an effort to get communications between myself and the white house counsel myself and my chief staff. He will be able to make a legal argument. That serious people will take seriously on that front. And that's something that could dramatically slowed down the pace with which investigation is moving. It's particularly important because congressional. Investigators are so close to getting an interview with jeffrey clark. One of the top doj officials who actually tried to get the department to tell state lawmakers that they had evidence of election fraud when they did it up until now trump has said that he will not make an executive privilege claim to try to block geoffrey clark from testify. That means that. If that if clark didn't want to testify he wouldn't be able to cite executive privilege as a reason not to do so. What just changed today is that now. Trump is saying at least obliquely. Hold your horses. I'm actually going to make an executive privilege complaint and that might mean. It could take us a lot longer to hear from clark about those last week's at doj right and we know that he's already given some testimony over over in the senate. I mean two things distress stress. Here i think are important. One is the scope of this right. We've got the national archives asking for anything from the sixth the twentieth related to the mental stability of donald trump or his fitness for office. And then of the committee literature. Doj asking for communications and involving mark meadows kirk olson guiliani. Sydney powell jenna. Ls joseph jenna. These are some of the president's lawyers were victoria taunting or any other person from november third through the twentieth relating to potential doj intervention litigation filed by the trump campaign receipts challenging election results or otherwise questioning the validity of the twenty twenty election result. My suspicion is that's not a fishing exhibition and they have a reasonable certainty. There some documents on the side of this but your point about the legal machinations here. This is not a congressional subpoena asking for a third party. This is asking a current administration to furnish this over a request and trump would have to sort of intervene in that. that's right. Trump would have to ask josh to issue an injunction locking these different departments and entities within the us government from turning over these materials to capitol hill. In addition it's possible that lawyers within biden's justice department and within biden's white house counsel's office surprisingly might be sympathetic with trump. Because if they come down on. The side of executive privilege doesn't protect the president's one on one conversations with the white house counsel or with his chief of staff than democrats are always thinking a couple of years on a couple of administrations ahead and for them. Does that mean that down the road. When jim jordan has a congressional committee he'll be able to get vitamins private conversations with wrong claim that something that these government lawyers always worry about. So i think it's it's going to be a complicated legal fight and the outcome won't necessarily be predictable. Betsy woodruff swan. Thank you so much. Appreciate that i had last night..
"woodruff swan" Discussed on The Daily Beans
"So let's hit the hothouse hot notes. Alright lead story. Today is all about the attempted coup from the former guy. This is coming from betsy. Woodruff swan at politico. She says donald trump asked the country's top legal official in late december about a conspiratorial draft. Complaint this is rosen about this draft complaint aimed at overturning the twenty twenty election according to previously unreported accounts of trump's phone call with the former acting attorney general. That's jeffrey rosen. Rosen persuaded trump. The lawsuit wasn't a good idea. He told senate investigators last weekend that that's what he told trump and that's according to two sources familiar with his testimony. This previously unreported detail underscores. How hard the department of justice lawyers work to shoot down. The increasingly harebrained legal strategies that reached the president's desk trump brought up the fifty four page legal document in a phone. Call with rosen and late december weeks after losing trump wanted to know. Why wasn't the justice department doing more about the election. The complaint was being circulated by an outside group. Helmed by kurt olson. An attorney who had represented texas in its own failed lawsuit challenging trump's loss earlier that month and some of the president's allies found its logic compelling the complaint modeled after the texas lawsuit would have urged the supreme court to declare that the electoral college from six key. Swing states lost by trump cannot be counted because of baseless allegations of election fraud and for the justices to order a special election for trump to be held in those states. Rosen didn't so he basically had this legal document that said the supreme court needs to overturn six states that he lost and how we hold the election in the states that he lost. Oh yes for sure. Let's just do reverse just doing just do a new election rosen. Didn't find olson's arguments persuasive. Really he had already been in touch with texas lawyer. That's according to emails previously released by house. Investigators any challenged him to come up with some supreme court precedents backing up his case. But that didn't happen. So when trump brought the complaint up on the call the acting attorney general was ready. Because he'd already talked to this guy wilson. The complainant circulated widely enough at senior levels of government. That department's office of legal counsel had reviewed it. They reviewed it and laid out legal reasons why it was a non-starter rosen presented some of these arguments the president including arguments related to standing and original jurisdiction and he told not not that. It's fucking ridiculous. You know he was like well. You might have some standing and jurisdiction problems. and he told congressional investigators. He persuaded trump to side with him. On this particular case the justice department did not sign onto the complaint and rosen repeatedly. Told the president what he didn't wanna hear over the course of his final weeks in office but despite that trump didn't fire rosen and bj pack former us attorney in atlanta told congressional investigators today on wednesday that his abrupt resignation in january had been prompted by justice. Department officials namely rosen warning. Bj that the trump was gonna fire him for refusing to say that there was widespread voter fraud enjoy. That's according to a person familiar with. Bj pants testimony pack provided more than three hours of closed-door testimony to the senate judiciary committee. He stepped down with no notice on january fourth saying that he had done his best to be thoughtful and consistent and to provide justice for my fellow citizens in a fair effective efficient manner and A little breaking news right now right in the middle of treason pillow guys symposium his cyber symposium own a lawyer for acute on conspiracy theorists named ron watkins told him to say read a statement on the zoom call that he was on to say that the the data mike lindell was analyzing and was up on the screen for all to see had been stolen from mesa county colorado clerks and they needed to stop the review immediately. The county clerk. Tina peters who has supported election conspiracy theories in the past told nine news colorado. She would not comment on the investigation based on advice from the local district. Attorney district attorney. Dan rubenstein however said tuesday. He never advise peters or anyone else in her office and his office is also conducting. Its own separate criminal investigation into this incident. Peter's did publicly acknowledged the breach tuesday evening when she joined my pillow founder. Mike lindell's cyber symposium promoting trump's fos election rigging claims peters appeared with lindell and sharona bishop former campaign manager for republican colorado congresswoman loren. Bogaerts so dana. It's a cluster. fuck it is. And here's a story that doesn't sound like we've completely made it up my the last one. The senate passed a sweeping democratic budget resolution as spunk. Pardon lines early wednesday. That would make it possible to expand medicare education and environmental measures largely to higher taxes on the wealthy incorporations. Who this is. The to the three point five trillion blueprints to pave the way for the massive social safety net expansion which stopped it was adopted. Fifty to forty nine vote after more than fourteen hours of debate on a myriad of amendments. Now senators voted on forty seven. Non-binding amendments forty-seven during the process adopting some sponsored by republicans among them or an amendment offered by freshman senator. Tommy tuber vo republican from alabama football. Coach you remember him adopted in a ninety nine to zero boat actually that would block federal funds for any jurisdictions that fund. The police which is fine. Because that's not what we're going for anyway. We're not trying to take away all the money from the boys at least most of us anyway. Another by senator. Rick stotts from florida also adopted a ninety nine. Zero vote would ensure tax money doesn't go to groups like hamas which the united states considers a terrorist organization g. When the fuck was our tax money going to hell maas by the way they weren't this was all just a quarter the democrats to vote no on defunding. The police and cory booker was like thank. God let's all walk no. Let's sashayed down and all vote. No on this because you know or vote to include this amendment. Because nobody wants to do that. And i'm sure exactly you know the two thousand twenty two election cycle. I'm sure all the republicans will acknowledge that no democrats voted to defend the police. So you know. It's just absolutely ridiculous. And on the other side of the aisle we have an amendment senator. Tom carbon is a democrat from delaware. He's called for a fund to address. Climate change sounds more reasonable. Because the budget measures are non-binding lawmakers typically use them to pitch messaging proposals which many than using campaign ads during later election cycles which is why every democrat went and voted against the funding. The police democrats said earlier. This week that the legislative package they plan to write would fund programs to provide a families combat climate change in expand healthcare and education programs. Democrats are planning to include language that would establish universal pre-k for three and four year olds making community college. Tuition free for two years provide green cards to millions of immigrant. Workers families reduced prescription drug costs. Now rep steny steny hoyer incenting stateful..
DHS report accuses China of hiding coronavirus info so it could hoard supplies
"China likely withheld information about the severity of the corona virus outbreak so it would have time to hoard of medical supplies that's according to a department of homeland security intelligence estimate earlier I went in depth with Betsy Woodruff swan national correspondent for politico what the report found what department of homeland security has concluded is that the Chinese government delayed formally notifying the World Health Organization about how contagious the novel coronavirus was until it had time to begin doing two things first reducing global export of medical supplies and second reaching the level of medical supplies that it was importing and S. D. H. S. report sees a causal link between the decision to shore up domestic stores of medical supplies in China and the decision to delay alerting the World Health Organization informally about just how contagious the new coronavirus wise
A Complete List of Trump’s Pardons and Commutations
"Today. Donald Trump continued his full on assault. On the rule of law pardoning and commuting the sentences of several high profile criminals he notably included former Illinois governor. Rod Blagojevich was convicted of trying to sell Barack Obama's Senate seat vacated because he was elected president in exchange for campaign contributions. Begovic had served eight years of a fourteen year prison sentence. You may also remember the governor from the apprentice where he messed up the Harry Potter Challenge and got fired Donald Trump. We'll technically by the apprentice producers today the President Communities Sentence Response Members of the Illinois House Republican delegation released a saying quote. We're disappointed by the president's commutation of Robert Mugabe of federal sentence. Begovic is the face of public corruption in Illinois. And not once has he shown any remorse for his clear undocumented. Record of egregious crimes that undermined the trust placed in him by the voters. Nbc News Correspondent. Tom Winter reminds us are eating. A jury found him guilty of trying to extort the CEO of Children's Memorial Hospital for a donation in exchange for increasing the payments to doctors. Who took care of Specialty Care Kids? Oh but Donald Trump was not done there he also pardoned former New York police department. Commissioner Bernard Kerik pleaded guilty to eight felony charges including tax fraud and lying to White House officials. Carrick was nominated by George W Bush to be the Secretary of Homeland Security before withdrawing that nomination just a week later. The judge gave a longer sentence than agreed to the plea deal saying quote. I think the damage caused by Mr Carrick is in some ways. Immeasurable trump also pardoned bond. Trader Michael Milkin. So guy considered to be the face of insider trading in the nineteen eighty S. Milton was originally charged with ninety eight. Federal counts including racketeering. He pleaded guilty to six felony charges of securities fraud conspiracy. He was sentenced to ten years in prison. He also paid six hundred million dollars in fines and restitution at sentencing. The judge said quote when a man of your power in the financial world repeatedly conspires to violate and violate securities and tax laws in order to achieve more power and wealth for himself and his wealthy clients. A significant president prison term is required in order to deter others others receive clemency from trump today glued former San Francisco Forty niners owner Edward debartolo junior. Who pleaded guilty in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight two concealing an extortion attempt involving the governor of Louisiana David Savvy and the former Bush administration official who was sentenced to a year in prison for lying about his association with Jack? Abramov June grown the owner of a Mental Health Care Company. Who was serving a thirty five year prison sentence for running? A two hundred. Five million dollar Medicare fraud scheme to be clear. This is the president who spent the last six months arguing. He so pose corruption. He had to make sure. Ukrainian president was to by withholding credit grudgingly approved military aid unless you launch fake investigation into the Biden's and route around Kremlin source conspiracy theory tourist findings but somehow this group of liars an extortionist and swindlers is the group of people. Trump felt deserve clemency. Maybe it's just a coincidence. That trump is pardoning these felons as the sentencing yet. Another one of his criminal pals looms earlier today. Trump tweeted about the judge in the trial of his longtime friend and advisor. Roger Stone suggesting stone deserved a new trial. Not long after the judge ruled stone. Sentencing hearing we'll go on that's planned on Thursday. Although she did say Roger. Stone's sentence will not begin until after she rules on his request for a new trial. Trump's interference with the stone cases. Troubled the Federal Judges Association so much that they called an emergency meeting tomorrow to address it and joining me now. For more on the president's pardoning spree. Today's Walter Dellinger. He was formerly formerly the acting. Solicitor General and also the head of the office of Legal Counsel at the Department of Justice under president. Bill Clinton Mr Dellinger. What do these pardons say to you as somebody who worked in in at high levels in justice in the United States? Well I think the show that we're really at the at the end of being a country that believes in equal justice under law there was no process to see how these crimes and these sentences compared with others who remain in prison. It's the president's own whim when a president acts by Wim and says he did of the Goya Vich. I wanted wife on television that that is an assault on the rule of law. But it goes much deeper than that. This is part of a three pronged assault on low as we know it. It involves threats of criminal prosecution of political opponents. Those investigate you. It involves promises that the president will intervene on behalf of those who commit crimes on his behalf and it. The third leg of this assault is his attack on judges and jurors in cases in which he's involved there is there's a banana republic aspect to it as you said that if you're friends with the president or on his TV show you get a pardon no matter what you've done and if you cross him in any way you might end up being prosecuted and we know that William Bar doesn't seem to be opposed to doing that but they're also does seem to be kind of a sort of Ross statement of power that Donald Trump is saying that if you commit these particular kinds of crimes that are against the Public. Trust that our financial in nature that are about corruption when he himself was impeached for corruption. It almost as sort of I don't know it almost feels like a message about that too about the fact that he's saying no no. I'm going to use of dive into corruption and revel in it. That's a good point Jordan. He treats he treats very high status people as if they're high status is a mitigation of their crops. When in fact it is an exacerbation that makes him so much worse. When you're a privileged person take for example. The fact that he has intervened on behalf of someone who was this got to be the national security adviser and lied about an investigation not just any investigation an investigation into a foreign military powers intervention. Our election. He intervened on behalf of someone who has been a prominent associated with President. Said is Roger Stone Who who committed five categories of lies and engaged in what the first department memo said was a relentless multi year attempt to again and obstruct justice in terms of an investigation into the corruption and the election and then finally the sympathy for someone. Who had the Honora being governor of one of our largest states? And who is thoroughly corrupt? And who sold a position in the United States Senate? Now that's he treats those because high status people as mitigation of their crops. And would it surprise you if the after to the things that Donald Trump does as well when it surprised if he's setting up there's been a lot of questions about whether he might try to part himself like if he's ever found to have committed some crime and that would certainly make himself the biggest part of the mall. I think he would undoubtedly attempt to pardon himself and everyone around him. He certainly let it be known that if a if he's re-elected or or even in the period after he was defeated he is GonNa take care of Of of everyone he knows including himself. I think the courts would reject hisself pardon but you know no presents ever tried that before so we can't be sure and the way in which he he seems to revel in the fact that he could take someone like sheriff. Joe Arpaio a law enforcement officer who is targeting Latinos for harassment and using the power of the police deliberately against a minority group and he pardoned him of criminal contempt of court that the way in which he plays with this. I think Dolly Elliptic who some times on this show referred to the `constitutionalisation of narcissism is what we face in this country. Yeah IT DONALD. Trump wants credit of also doing first step back kinds of criminal justice reform. He wants credit for that. But but do you sense in the pardons that he's doing especially today that the real message here is his own power right that he's essentially saying if you're powerful and you're my friend that is actually how you get a justice not by being somebody who was falsely accused of a crime or got too long of a sentence for having marijuana or something like that. That's why there's absolutely the absolute absence of any sense that the people pardoned held they compared with the culpability and the sentences of the tens and tens of thousands who remain in federal prison. The idea that he can act on on Mir welcome. I think something we've never seen the president before you know. Some people are going to raise the a Bill Clinton's pardon of financier and fugitive Bark Rich. And that was the worst thing. Bill Clinton did in eight years and an office is unjustified pardon but Donald Trump is taking it to a very different level where he's using the levers of the of the power of his office in order to corrupt law threatening opponents rewarding those who would commit crimes on his behalf going after judges and jurors in. I don't know where we go from here. I think we two thousand former prosecutors not just signed a letter but perhaps to think about blocking the willing to be arrested blocking the entrance of the Justice Department out. You have to use your imagination where we go from here Walter Dellinger. Thank you very much really appreciate your time and joining me now. For more. On the president's pardoning Spree Matthew Miller former chief spokesperson for the Department of Justice who's down MSNBC Justice analyst and Betsy Woodruff Swan Politics reporter at the daily beast and she's also an MSNBC contributor. So let's talk about sort of where where he could go from here and where and what it means and I'll start with where he could go from here. Betsy because is there any reporting on how much more of this because it does appear that there is a pattern? Somebody is either you know his friend or was on the apprentice goes on Fox News and pleads for his help he immediately responds to his friends and gives them a pardon. Who's who might be next on the list. I spent the afternoon talking to people who identify or describe themselves as allies of Roger Stone and they said that they saw the spate of clemencies that came down today as very comforting to them. Because they believe it's a signal. The President is sending that Roger. Stone may be next in line for this type of executive action. I thought your use of the phrase Banana Republic was really interesting because a federal judge. Us that exact same phrase in a transcript that was recently released from a closed door hearing regarding the investigation. That's now closed into Andrew McCabe and the judge literally said that the fact that trump was tweeting about McCabe so often the fact that he appeared to be interfering in that process created the appearance of a Banana Republic. So the thing to keep an eye on both the president of course granting clemency to people who he views as his political allies in part because he sees them on Fox News and the inverse of that which is the president encouraging DOJ to weaponize itself against people who he sees as his foes. And I'm glad also that Mister Diligent Joe Arpaio because they're also sort of symbolic arden's of people who are hurting the People Donald Trump's base wants to see hurt.
Trump Denies Giuliani Acted on His Behalf in Ukraine: 'Rudy Has Other Clients'
"I WANNA play a clip of an interview with Donald Trump and his and his old buddy man who used have a cable show until he was fired because of so many accusations of sexual arrangement this is donald trump talking about rudy. Giuliani whose intimated he has insurance against the president and won't run the bus over him and this is what Donald Trump is now saying about him. Take a listen. So what was Rudy Giuliani. Doing in Ukraine on your behalf. Where you have to ask that to rudy but Rudy I? I don't even know I. I know he was going to go to Ukraine and I think he cancelled a trip But you know Rudy has other clients other than me. I'm one direct him to go there on your behalf. You didn't know but you have to understand. Rudy is a great corruption fighter. I mean there's so much that's fascinating about this betsy but the first thing that sticks Out To me is you'RE GONNA have to ask is literally what he said about. Michael Kohn back in April eighteen. When he was I asked about the animals? He said you're going to have to ask Michael and look where Michael ended up right did not have a happy ending for for Mr Cohen Trump. Telling people to talk to rudy kind of ironically also matches. What what he was telling? Some of his senior administration officials called him with questions about Ukraine. He said go talk to Rudy. The reality is rudy. Unquestionably was one of the trump himself. Senior on voice too key while this entire process was playing out and everybody knew it that Ukrainians new at the Americans knew trump trump nuit rudy. New at there was no mystery to this and remember part of the reason that there's such a robust conversation about whether or not to expand the number of witnesses. This is testifying before the impeachment inquiry is that we haven't actually heard from people who were really really in the weeds with Rudy himself. On the work he was doing for the president resident. Love Parnassus a person who would potentially be able to provide that testimony Andrea earmark. who was an aide to the president of Ukraine who met with Rudy shortly after after the trump as Alinsky phone call year? Mock told me on the record that led Parnasse was at the table when he and Rudy had a conversation that has now proven to the incredibly faithful Peres hasn't yet testified. So there's a lot of information out there that congressional Democrats still don't have a great point as for Rudy Swim. I mean debates. He's he's point he literally tells Linski on the phone call to talk to rudy. He tells them you talk to people. Will you borrow Rudy. He I mean he will try because he tries to do this. All this things things and just sort of like Ben Reality News will but there is just no question. He's directing people to get in contact with Rudy. No absolutely and look like as betsy was mentioning earlier about how India Open and how public this was and it wasn't actually a secret at best. It was an open secret. That Giuliani was acting on president. Trump's behalf unrest is he was telling reporters on the record for months in in a very loquacious manner in the months leading up to the scandal before the long before the impeachment inquiry was even lauch. And when when he would talk about it to reporters at various outlets including at the daily beast he would repeatedly say how he was. Keeping President. Trump abreast yes leafed on all of his progress progress so if president trump wants turn around now and talk about how oh he was doing his own thing well. There were numerous opportunities from to tell his lawyer to knock get the hell off if he actually wanted US win. Su- sang and Betsy Woodruff Swan. Thank you both your time