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Tyranny Crumbling? Wisconsin Supreme Court Smacks Down Governor's Lockdown!

Ron Paul Liberty Report

27:32 min | 5 months ago

Tyranny Crumbling? Wisconsin Supreme Court Smacks Down Governor's Lockdown!

"Hello everybody and thank you for tuning in to deliberate. Report me with me. Today Daniel Make Adams Daniel good to see you this Dr Paul doing good. We have a little bit of good news. Today's yeah yes still some bad news out there. We liked the good news. And we've talked a little bit about Wisconsin. What's going on out there and Seems like there's a few fighters left up there and you know politics is so terrible. Never worked but just happens that the Democrats are in charge of writing rules and executive orders disturbed their state at the same time. The more conservative Libertarian. People are in charge of the legislative. And they didn't like the clock. Don Well not too many do it. Once you're intimidated. Have to go along you know. They can't rock the boat so they used a process which hasn't been around a lot but that time sometime it's flawed but the legislative branch said. Hey why does why is the governor have so much power just in lock down and and they got token present PR permission for awhile. From the legislative body ran out so the legislative body felt put a bond so they didn't like The taking away of their authority at the same time. They didn't like the lockdown and they've also I'm sure Sense where the politics are and they were. The people are very supportive of getting things open so they took it to court and Lo and behold the judge ruled that Sh- the governor way overstepped bounds. And they're being forced to open up which I think is just great. I think it's such a shame that we have to go through this because you know if we were in a more Libertarian society. You would have. These kinds of people could just do what they wanted. And as long as they didn't hurt people and are exposed people to even their own problems or their own disease it but this is. This is a good news story and they're moving in the right direction and and I think it support about people I think they had a little celebration. They They they celebrate and they go out and have a drink. It's just like the people around the world I guess but but anyway there was big celebrations and We'll have to see what happens. I just hope this persis- speaking of celebrations that I picture. Actually because this was I think from the Washington Post. They were furious looking at this. No masks at reopened bar the virus full. It really sort of reminds me Dr Paul. The pictures I've seen from when they finally struck down prohibition when people went out and celebrated they were tired of the tyranny. But you're right the court the court you know Ruled in favor of the legislature would the legislature sued the governor saying. Okay you had your emergency power. But you can't extend it unilaterally. Without the elected officials elected legislature. Having a say in it and the Wisconsin Supreme Court also agreed with the legislature that the unelected state health chief shouldn't have such power over the population. Basically sort of like algae. They kind of handed over policy to this unelected person will Tony Evers. Is the governor there in Wisconsin and he's apoplectic about the whole thing. He can't believe it. He said we have no authority right. Now it's been taken away. Of course it is doesn't say is it's been taken away by the people in form of their legislature. But here's what he said when the bars started opening and people started having a good time they didn't put on their mass actually shook hands and acted like humans he said. We're in the wild west. There are no restrictions at all across the state of Wisconsin. So at this point in time there was nothing. That's compelling people to do anything other than having chaos here so what he considers chaos other people consider freedom and some people will determine the word fun. Yeah the freedom and fund may go together but he also said in order to cover himself he. He's concerned about this. You know He's not willing to look as none of them seem to be. That are all all this close to see who safe or unsafe. And and he's assuming that everybody's going to buy into it that if you allow people to go out to a bar all of a sudden there's GonNa be a tremendous increase in death but we have several other examples. We'll probably mention. It's not quite happening that way. And it's sort of happening like some people proposed that there be a surge of people getting sick like normal for most viruses and like flu matter of fact not nearly as severe as influenza but The politicization of this is pretty amazing. I'm impressed with the ability to I want to hear. Somebody had a strategy session last summer. Sometimes we have. It is virus coming. What are we going to do to maximize our benefits from that? I know we have it every year but this one is going to be different and the propaganda machine went to work and I was so disappointed if I read it correctly in my own newspaper here in Missouri County. They said that they are going to change the way they count. The illness is not going to bother. Wait for test or anything like that. If somebody has some symptoms we're gonNA count them so our numbers are probably going up. We've been talking. Our numbers are pretty love and but They they said that You don't have to have have a test so I'm hoping this all gets over because I hate criticizing people that I work with. It seems fraudulent to me. Just guess well we'll get to the scoreboard. But the in Wisconsin okay. They had about four hundred twenty one deaths as of yesterday from the covert Which is you know. It's a not a good thing. It's it's a bad thing but that really is just a little bit higher than just at twenty eighteen flu season. So there's not a huge disparity at for that they shut down the entire state you know like everywhere else. Unemployment went through the roof. Businesses closed for ever got a rush of suicides. Depression at center up. But you know this opening though celebrated by a lot of people Washington Post of course is not too thrilled and we have our second clip. This is in the same article. Here's how they editorialized in a news article about this with ever statewide orders kaput local health authorities scrambled to issue or extend citywide or country. Countywide stayed home. Orders creating a hodgepodge of rules and regulations across the state that are bound to cause confusion not to mention some traffic across county lines situation and like any in the US as a pandemic rages on of course that language. And here's the final thing. This is how this is how the Washington Post propagandizes just like. You were saying Dr Paul but most of all ever feared that the court order would cause the thing he was trying to prevent more deaths writing there they go again. Yeah there definitely are some similarities between what's going on now and the war against terrorism because at the beginning most people knew what a terrorist was they they were supposed to know anyway and it was a narrow definition of course terrorism is just tactics but that morphed into anybody you didn't like it He's a terrorist. He's a jihadist. And you know and then that pain that picture and this is what they're doing now on this if you don't obey the rules they'd like to put you into that category that you're unpatriotic you don't care about people dying and yet they don't even have the evidence may well be that there are less so the one you gave some numbers there about the number of people with corona virus but If if we ever get to the bottom of it. I've seen some statistics. Show that one thing is that the flu numbers are way. Way Down I don't think there's less influenza. I think what they do is they throw them all together. You know influenza concern like corona virus or somebody comes in. Here's the flu. Oh Yeah Corona virus current of ours and then accused the machine going. So fear is the driving element For politicians whether it's fear they associated with With terrorism and fear with this. But it's one thing it's to increase the power influence and control by the state. The state grows our wars the health state. Yeah and the real complaint that they have in Wisconsin. Of course the the control freaks the power freak says from Bob. Wenzel would say the the fear they have. There's not one single one-size-fits-all overarching system. That would keep someone in say a rural area with very very little chance of contracting the virus in the same category someone from Madison or from the big city. And that's the big problem. They're complaining that some counties will stay closed some will open. It will cause chaos. It'll cost confusion on what is going to actually create a kind of situation where there's competition in if you. WanNa stay home if you WANNA stay lockdown down you stay in the county you stay where you are words lockdown but if you want to go out and you want to start living your life if you have a very low risk and you've assessed that risk and you want to get back to work because you're going bankrupt to do that and that's really the the beauty of the whole thing you know and it's not difficult to find some very very good statements in it comes from their heart and their logic and common sense and not from some distant theoretical philosophy but it it does I found one here. That comes From one of the individuals have been relieved or the case about this Shut down and it's very libertarian. Libertarianism is very natural. Just leave me alone. But he stated he didn't write a whole booklet on anything like that he he very simply say if if the people want to quarantine quarantaine if you don't want to Corentin Dong Corentin go out. Do what you normally do while. That's complicated isn't it? And of course we always put all of that into the non aggression. Principle is that you do what you want but there. Here's the one rule you don't hurt anybody and then they would come back and say I ha- going out you're gonNA kill people so that's how they try to have it on both sides but I don't think statistics are going to hold up. They can't say that because there is a risk in nature infections and therefore you have to give up the principles of libertarianism. But there's been quite a few it because we're dealing with self reliance and self respect as that as the barber. Was you know a the case with the barber? And and and I guess I guess the Governor of Michigan a little bit annoyed because too many protesters and she. She didn't like that and she said okay. If you're GONNA do that she didn't say it but her tone and our words were I'm gonNA punish you. We're GONNA keep them on longer. We're GONNA make sure that rules and I thought that was about the ugliest thing you could hear. I mean it's all bad the authoritarian. But this this whole idea that if you disobey my orders collectively. You're all going to be punished. And I'M GONNA keep writing these orders but I think going to. There's going to be a growing number of people you know objecting to this and and I'm sure you know this issue is going to be the the issue of November you know and I think I thank you if If the real issue is violence and freedom and making own decisions I think things will half be ironed out by November with with You know how how beneficial where these controls. And how much harm have they come? Because we've sure heard a lot of people who've been suffering from these or you wouldn't have this celebration that we see now. People are celebrating. It's not like they got some free gift. All they got was a return of what was there to begin with people. Think you know that it does come from the government. That governor thinks freedom comes from her. You Know I. It doesn't but still when it's been taken away from you and there is a return there's reason to rejoice about it and I think we're starting to see that. Yeah I think so too and with really terrifies them. The most what they can't stand of course early on when we started talking about the states. That didn't lock down so tight South Dakota you know the governor down there They had I think about sixteen deaths less than twenty deaths and they can't stand that but we have our next clip. This is what is driving them crazy because the states that are opening up. Of course you're supposed to see a huge spike. Look at this Corona Virus Cases Georgia and Florida. Continue to decline despite business openings. This is what's driving them. They're losing control. Even the governor of Wisconsin said. We're losing control if you go to the next one. Though you brought up the governor of Michigan who is tyrant to beat all tyrants. Here's what she did to your barber. Dr Paul Heartbreaking Michigan Governor Whitmer Strips seventy-seven-year-old Barber of his license without due process. The Barber shop and she just ripped his license away and she says he's the violent person he's committing violence because he's disobeying her orders and he's the evil one. He doesn't obey the law and and look at what she does that. But that's the case. Those are the things that we hear. About how many people who have suffered and there is that group out there and some people argue. Sounds pretty logical if If they're gonNa pay you twenty dollars not to work and you say well. Hey you want your job back. I'll give you two hundred dollars an hour. You know. There's it's a messy situation which which should occur but for her to to do this. She is using violence against people. And she's taken their their life away from and they're taking their liberty but see enough said it so many times we have a right to our life and our liberty but we also have to have the right to the fruits of our labor and I think that's a way to appeal to some of the progressives if you're talking about You know freedom action and social issues and religious issues and freedom of speech. Why can't we apply that to Your Life? Your Life here you you own your own life. So if you're able to produce something of value It should belong to you. It shouldn't belong to the state for these monsters to come along and say well. We really own your life if you behave. We're going to return a little bit of a to you and hopefully they'll be more objection to this because it just doesn't make any sense and I think they're program is based on evil and violence because they always have the gun and then taken his His license away. From of course the libertarian. Answer that has we have too many licenses anyway. We don't need them because it's used as a weapon as a real shame and hope they come to their senses up there. And let the let the man work seventy seven they said that's old fury all I think. I think he should be energetic. And so somebody you had the other day. There was a prayed for somebody who was ninety six. He looked really good and I was wondering the prayed was going by but I think they were falling all the rules with mass ninety six years old and she has to celebrate with people wearing masks. Whitmer in Michigan should be nervous by the Wisconsin thing because there are similarities. And I don't know the exact makeup of the Supreme Court the Legislature in Michigan. I do know that this Republican dominated for whatever that's worth But the situation is similar. Whitmer declared a twenty eight day state of emergency according to the Constitution of Michigan when that has twenty eight days in her down as you know got more and more severe as she got more and more power-crazed when those twenty eight days were over she said I want to keep all my powers under this emergency act and the legislature said. No you can't do that we we won't vote for it. We won't vote to let you have it. And so that's what she said. I don't care I'll do it anyway. So they took it to. The Supreme Court in Michigan to the court in Michigan in those or arguments will be held on Friday this Friday tomorrow. I guess it is. She's already made her response to it and she says oh they're just mad. She shrugged it off. They just just a power grab but it is interesting without going into too many details because these are going to have to decide whether the nineteen seventy six emergency management act supersedes the forty eight Emergency Powers Act seventy-six act requires legislature to sign off on the extension which does make sense in a way when you have someone who can rule by decree unilaterally without any checks or balances on their power. You can see what it does to someone to go to your head and make you a little bit. Kooky like she sounds but it'll be interesting to see if this damn starts breaking if we see like the numbers coming in that are so low going down so much with the opening states not getting that Spike. That really sickeningly enough. A lot of them are hoping for then we might start seeing this damn break. What wh- we'll be exposed is they're lying. You know they lie one thing. It's not just airs. They lie for their own purpose. And the word. Hypocrite is a good term to use for most politicians in at all degrees. But the hypocrisy of it. All is just plain outlying and it's notorious in Washington seasons by the bureaucrats are who anybody has has has power but what the Bob was exposed this about the individual that had the directives and participated in saying okay the nursing homes ought to be open and if positive will put him in because we quarantine them doing exactly the opposite death sentence and it proved they killed people and and but that's one thing this is give her a very and she just didn't have she doesn't have a good understanding. Expose the wrong economics but the hypocrisy of it the exposure of this in the meantime she made sure she took her mother out of the Nursing Home and put someplace out so that that is and I think that is gonNA play in the. You're to when this thing breaks. This may be much better than even what we ever dreamed or hope for that it will be more positive things coming from this and I think I think it's going to really happen when they realize that they can't depend on the government and of course. I've talked about the government. The moral and financial bankruptcy of this country will morally. Everybody seems to understand that. Pretty well But the financial is still there because Pelosi right now she's working closely with the Republicans Cautiously the air gun talk about two trillion dollars and and also infrastructure trillion dollars. But that's going to quit and that's when people are gonNA say hey. They can't what they do. They guarantee me fifteen dollars an hour. I'm I'm getting fifteen dollars an hour but everything costs about ten times more. There's a government is not working so well so this is. This is the reason that we should prepare. For the the. At least philosophic collapse of what's happening hardcore. Communism had an obvious collapse in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. But unfortunately the authoritarianism was will bread into interventionism which we had and other types of more modest You Know Socialistic. Programme but The the principles the saying so we have to look at this as a principle of saying people should be able to take care of themselves and governments can't do it no more so blind dedication to to the to the politician and this is what we're talking about. They're not doing a very good job. And oh I know. It's the Republicans that trump's he's crazy so we have to get rid of them this sorta thing and and then the other side with where we keep hearing more and more things about Obama and I don't think he was a saint and and and so well why do people put trust and we just had to change. Change them around but do they ever changed parties. No one party. Republicans and Democrats and the people don't realize they hone in on the personalities so therefore they can they can support people with superficial reasons and go after people for superficial reasons and I think the opportunity is arriving because government is failing. And it's GonNa be worse than ever before because it's it's global there's they always wanted globalism globalism but it was fake. And now this globalism is going to be. People are gonNA realize why. Why do people believe in this stuff? Oh we'll take care of. I guess they're wearing masks all around the world aren't they? They're trying I think they're trying to hide from the reality of life. Put giving a mask and I want to have to think about and of course some people put up there is. It really is hard to ignore this increasing feeling that there's a political component to these shutdowns. And you know we sort of have the leeway to say this we're not supporters of trump war opponents trump. Where looking at at the landscape. There was a good piece. I'm sure you've read about Tom. De Lorenzo Lou Rockwell site and he brings up this political component. And first of all we have to see as you as you sort of hinted that a minute ago the Russia Gate. Narrative has now fully collapsed. We have a good piece on the Ron Paul Institute website from Ray McGovern about how? The second leg has collapsed. The Russia Gate Narrative. The idea that the was hacked by Russia that has all fallen apart now and testimonies coming out so the Russia gate. Coup attempt against the president has completely fallen. Apart and de Lorenzo is looking at it thinking about in Democrat states the economy is being crushed by Democratic governors depriving trump of his ability to say as he always likes to say. This is the best you know market. We've ever had even though as as as you know in his most people who've all school no it's a Shimura it's it's fake but nevertheless that was his campaign platform unemployment historic lows growth. Minorities have the best growth. So he's denying him of that and also denying him this what. I hadn't thought about this until today but denying one of the real strengths. That trump had in the two thousand sixteen campaign was he's mass. Rally seventy thousand people and he knows whatever you think about it. He knows how to work a crowd and work people up and he did in does do that and now he won't be able to do that. He'll be deprived of that ability. So it's hard to ignore the political component to the whole thing and I do WanNa finish with just the final thing which is a picture of of of this Levin Creature. Let's have a look. This really is sort of the face of evil in a way and I'm not making fun of the person's looks necessarily but this is the sort of the mentality that the Communists and the totalitarian always add. Hey the rules. Don't apply to me. They apply to you. You Low people you. Nobody's she took her her mother out of the rest home just before she ruled that they have to accept the Kobe. Nine hundred nine patients which killed thousands of people. She knew it was coming. She did it anywhere. This is from Bob. Wenzel target liberty website. Who's doing a great job anyway? So this really is the mentality of authoritarian. That's for sure you know. The lockdown could have been planned Lot of people believe that. And you mentioned Daniel. How successful trump has been with his crowds? And there's no doubt and some said. They made their prediction that he would win the last election. Because there's not very many people who can get these tens or hundreds of thousands of people in the next three years as a president. I said he probably has talk directly with more people than any politician. The politicians put together. I mean it wasn't like five and ten thousand people. I mean. Many many people's theory is this whole thing of locked. Down you know was was. It's turned out to be a direct attack on this best weapon that is talking directly with the people. He can't do that and if he does. Then they flip it around and say he wants to kill people so this This is a big mess but ultimately people have to rely on ideas ideas have consequences and as I mentioned before things are coming unglued. And we're going to have to change our way them. Every time a monetary system collapses they have to Redo the Lana dishes system and traditionally over hundreds if not thousands of years. They resorted to using the medals to to give confidence back because the the In the improprieties with the monetary issue in the fake money and inflation. That's been around a long time. And that is what drove this market so corona viruses significant. And it's a distortion and it's a used to destroy our liberties but really the big bubble. The big bust has to do with finance and it has to do with central banking and right now. You know it's always the same old story from the central banker policy saying to the Congress. Well I need a little help. Could you increase your spending? I'll monetize in for you. Don't worry about that. That's been going on now. I mean there's a limit and that's what I'm saying. We're getting to that limit and things are in. The central banking is under sharp attack by people not in our circles just because they have done such a lousy job. They can't manage just with negative interest rates and pretend that they're working and understanding what coppard was all about. How do you allocate capital Unless you have a total authoritarian government you might as well just have the system of of Communism and socialism. If you're if you're not going to have the system of saving and market rates of interest but that's where we are is changing and we better be ready and there are quite a few people out there doing During the work to propose what kind of economic policies that we should follow and also for me it's understanding that basic principle of personal liberty and personal responsibility because the people knew what to do and they know how to work it out imperfectly. But why should we put so many imperfect people in our government and let them dictate to and that is what we've been talking about at law level used to be you know our government federal government and then it became an international governor U. N. i. m. f. and all these things that we have to worry about our own cities in our state government is still rotarians. Ism though -Tarian hasn't has to go. If you WANNA live in a free society and our goal here at the freedom delivered a report is to promote the cause of liberty because we are convinced that if you care about peace and prosperity you have to go with the issue of promoting personal liberty. WanNa thank everybody for tuning in today. Please come back soon.

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Wisconsin is the Beginning - 9/11/2020

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Wisconsin is the Beginning - 9/11/2020

"Hello and welcome to the News daily podcast where I give you the facts I no click bait stories just real news that matters to real people. Today is September eleventh and thank you for joining me well, like I said yesterday. I think today's can be really really good show. There's some interesting topics that I want to go over. So buckle up let's get caught up. I, of course, the elephant in the room nine eleven nineteen years later can you believe that? It feels like just yesterday we were celebrating the tenth anniversary in now it's almost twenty. You know it's just it's crazy. How time flies by as you get older especially, it's hard when nowadays every couple of days is the death toll from nine eleven like every two and a half to three days. But the symbolism of what that day meant. The imagery, still horrifying to see those buildings to hear the calls from the people who were trapped people who were there it really was a turning point for our country. People. Who saw the effects of what happened of the effects it had on our country? Sure they all signed up in served. But the aftershocks the after effects sort of my generation a bit older they're just starting to get into power. It definitely shaped them as well just in a different way. Now when I look back and look at the videos, it seemed like we were really unified. Maybe that was the last time last night at the chiefs Texans game this happened. Thank you. So during a call for unity a moment of silence for unity. A less than sold out crowd because they couldn't sell that many tickets during a pandemic booed loudly. It wasn't protesting the anthem. It wasn't protesting really of any kind. It was just a call for unity instill people reacted like that. It was just whether you think he is the cause or the symptom. The rise of Donald Trump has really brought out the worst in everyone now, people of color probably known all along but folks like myself. I certainly didn't think that this many normal regular people that you see on the street every day we're just blatantly racist in don't even WanNa talk about change or treating people equally I should mention though that the Kansas City chiefs beat the Texans thirty four to twenty just does not seem like football season not in this climate fear but here we are. But I do know things will be better when trump is gone and in the campaign to do. So let's talk about trump's campaign into money troubles they've been having. That's right after having such a huge lead over Biden in the fundraising edge in the total cash on hand, it seems like they might even be in shortfall. With less than sixty days to go, it seems like, Donald Trump's campaign has burned through. A billion dollars, and they have nothing to show for it but being behind in the polls six to ten points. So where does almost a billion dollars go? Some of it goes into these questionable transactions like three, hundred, twenty, five, thousand dollars to the Ritz Carlton Amelia Island near Jacksonville for the RNC convention that didn't happen in Jacksonville. Hundred and fifty thousand for planes to pull trump banners. Six million dollars, unquote donor mementos whatever those are. Eleven million for two Super Bowl ads four million into the trump family businesses since twenty nineteen a million dollars on ads in Washington DC just to make Donald Trump feel-good. Twenty one million in legal costs since twenty nineteen. In Eight, hundred, thousand dollars on former campaign manager Brad parse counts, facebook instagram boosting ads about the trump campaign in trump in pro-trump and all that. This is actually part of the reason that Brad Pascal got demoted is because the Lincoln Product Renan added showing how much money he was making the trump family and trump campaign Yang and a Ferrari or something. There's also talk. I was watching another one of the Lincoln project live streams about how they're not raising money anymore like their donors aren't quite is willing to give how they thought. They'd be able to just keep breaking it in in raking in from the same people, but it seems like those donors drying up a bit. So everyone shed a single tear for the trump campaign's cash shortfalls. Oh, that was the other thing. They also said that they have like so many stamp on the campaign that they probably go through twenty million a month on staff charges like paying staff members and stuff. Has A lot of people. In. Twenty million month ouch. Wisconsin seems to be the testing ground, the Guinea pig for election again from the Republicans this time dealing with absentee balance of course, which is we're GonNa vote by mail here. From the CNN article, the Wisconsin Supreme Court told election officials across the state on Thursday a week before the deadline to mail ballots that they can't mail out absentee ballots until the court decides whether to add the Green party's presidential ticket to the ballot. Of course, it was a four three decision gase were four the conservative judges they're debating about the inclusion of the Green Party candidate, Howie? Hawkins. Basically. We should start calling Green party the Kremlin in the US party or something like that because. Questionable, questionable motives. Questionable ties, not really standing for what they say anymore speaking to Meghan wool that chief elections official for the State of Wisconsin. When she was asked, what would happen if the justices order another candidate to be headed to the balance after they have already been printed obviously huge waste of money and paper Wolf said that it would be incredibly complicated and difficult. She mentioned some clerks in smaller jurisdictions across the state have probably already sent balanced voters. So how the heck is that? GonNa work. The State Supreme Court said, the Wisconsin Election Commission must inform the court by the end of the day. Thursday whether SNP balance had been mailed I'M GONNA go with Yeah Probably They're asking for the names and addresses of everyone who has been males in absentee ballot as well as the date the bounce was mailed. And they're ordering that election commission, to provide it with the names of officials who requested that bounce be printed as well. Sedate in time those requests were made. The controversy started because Hawkins and Kanye West by the way were denied a position on the general election ballot by the Wisconsin Election Commission. Essentially this is just GONNA lead to a lot of chaos seems like a preview for one other states might try and do. But weird that they start with Wisconsin well, not since we're so important to this election unfortunately. Now thankfully, the Big Democratic election lawyer Marc Elias said this quote someone needs to let Wisconsin and supreme. Court know that federal law requires military overseas balanced to go out at least forty five days before the election yesterday was day fifty four. And now they have eight days to figure all this out hopefully. According to Marc Elias before they just have to send him out again. I really hope that's true for all our sakes for every single voters sake but it's just kind of weird living in Wisconsin this year because we seem like the Guinea pig for everything like our Supreme Court made his vote in the primary back in April or one of the elections back in April, in person during. The height of covid won't announce the covert. But what we thought once in now this, the absentee ballots were just like the Guinea pig for everything and it's it's weird because we don't really think of myself as that I don't think of Wisconsin is that important but this year one of swing states that could that could win it one way or the other win it or lose. Not. Really my favorite position. Honestly I hope Wisconsin isn't this important every year There's really not much of a news story here, but just listen to this exchange yesterday when trump took questions at the White House in a press conference. This one came from ABC's Jonathan Karl and See if you can follow trump's train of thought throughout this Rant, why did you lie to the American people and why should we trust what you have to say terrible question and the phraseology I didn't lie what I said is we have to become we can't be panicked. I knew that the tapes were these were series a phone calls that we had mostly phone calls. And Bob Woodward is somebody that I respect just from hearing the name for many many years not knowing too much about his work not caring about his work. But I thought it would be interesting to talk to him for a period of you know calls. So we did that. I don't know if it's good or bad i. don't even know if the book is good or bad but certainly, if he thought that was a bad statement he would have reported it because he thinks you know you don't to have anybody that is going to suffer medically because of some fact, and he didn't report it because he didn't think it was bad nobody thought it was a minute. Wait a minute. And your question. The way you phrased that is such a disgrace. It's a disgrace to ABC television network. It's a disgrace year employer. And that's the answer you're ready because I love of course, I didn't. No No. On the. And the you went out and told the American public. This was just like the flu. Years everybody else something out now and five times. Five Times ever hear the expression five times we've had flu years where we lost one, hundred, thousand people. The flu is a very serious problem for this country also, and we've been losing them Scott. What kind of a number have we lost over the years with fluids into the hundreds of thousands? Well, I mean the last five years. Thirty five thousand per year every. Even with F. B., viral drugs food is a very serious. But just this is worse than the most value the most strenuous flu. And then went out and said it's just like the flu. What I went out and said it very simple when I went out and said is very simple. I WANNA show. A level of confidence and I want to show. Strength as a leader and I want to show that our country is going to be fine one way or the other whether we lose. One person shouldn't lose any because this shouldn't have happened. This is China's fault. This is nobody's fault but China China should not have allowed it to happen. Whether you have one person, one, hundred, eighty, thousand people were two and a half or three million people which it could have been very seriously. If we didn't make the moves and when you look at the opposition where they said Oh, why did he put the ban on doctor FAO? She said we saved hundreds of thousands of lives by putting the ban on China and then ultimately putting the ban on Europe there was no lie here. What we're doing is we're leading and we'll leading in a proper way and a frankly somebody else was leading it. They wouldn't have closed it. It turns out this might be more of a Wisconsin show. This one's really important for us. Wisconsin people especially, packers fans in packers fans are worldwide I shouldn't sell a short like that. But former packers coach Mike Holmgren is supporting Joe Biden's campaign will host a virtual press conference Saturday quote to discuss president. Trump's mishandled corona virus response as Green Bay businesses. 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OA387: You Pay the Priest (w/Andrew Seidel)

Opening Arguments

1:19:03 hr | 5 months ago

OA387: You Pay the Priest (w/Andrew Seidel)

"Not even a lawyer and he's kicking your ass bad lawyer. I need a loophole student excecutioner. Ace sorry but my mother always said if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all. Hold up in court no. I've tried it before. Stop Ask a question. A lawyer would ask lease. I am award. Welcome to opening arguments. The podcast that pairs an inquisitive interviewer with the real life lawyer. This podcast is sponsored by the law offices of P enter tour's LLC for entertainment purposes is not intended as legal advice does not form an attorney client relationship. Don't take legal advice from a podcast. Hello and welcome to opening arguments. This is episode three hundred eighty seven. I'm Thomas Smith. That's how you doing Andrew. I am fantastic. Always excited on a episode in which we get recital me as well. I have just been working around the clock on my amicus brief I I. I am sure you are too but I don't know that you need to do. I don't want to double up on work like I think I got it but yeah well as long as we both agree. It's not an meekest. Oh that's that's the only thing any real lawyer would know that it's pronounced amicus great segue to our amazing guests. Andrew sidled back for a million times. Let's get Andrew the phone we're going to talk to him about Churches stealing taxpayer money essentially a lot. A lot of it and also The Wisconsin Supreme Court decision. That was well. I won't spoil it. It was good or bad. You'll see we'll find out let's get android and we are joined by Andrew Seidel back for the Nth time I have no idea but it's I'll tell you what it's not enough. How's it going? I'm very well thank you. I'm still waiting on my robes and time timers robe club whatever. I just got an angry tweet for. Rent is in effect the other day so Yeah hasn't been a longtime kidding me. A Robe Randall. We still love the. It's it's all good absolutely. So here's the thing Andrew Seidel last time. You're on your very appropriately angry which I enjoy it so I'm hoping that little finger. I mean I'm still feeling pretty salty over that. Especially with some of the new idiotic. Things that Wisconsin Supreme Court has decided to do as of yesterday. When we're recording this. So yeah I mean. I'm still feeling pretty salty about a lot. That's happening good in the world right now. Feel the anger. Where do you WanNa Start Andrew? I we're GONNA talk about people and we're going to talk about the Wisconsin. Supreme Court is that are that are two things for the day. That's our agenda. Let's start with P P I guess okay so look like this was an eight hundred thirty five page bill that no one read. What could possibly go exactly what could possibly go wrong. I mean we could completely trample on one of America's founding principles and violate the religious freedom rights of every single American taxpayer. And that's that's what's happening all right. Well that that seems hyper also known as Tuesday Station Fair Enough Fair Enough. We'll just a little refresher for people. Pp The paycheck protection program if your business employees five hundred or fewer people you can get a forgivable loan that is two and a half times your average monthly payroll and then those loans are forgiven after eight weeks. If you put seventy five percent of that loan to cover payroll then the other twenty five percent you can use to pay operating costs like rent utilities insurance stuff like that and that is administered by the Small Business Administration and sp can go ahead. And I just I want. I want to jump in with with one point you you might make this later on but I wanna make it now the the payroll Includes the owner founder of the business It's capped for Reimbursement purposes at one hundred thousand dollars a year but but it does include paying yourself so I thought that might come in handy as you get down I APOLOGIZE. We'll be very important So the SBA has made it clear through guidance documents and Faq that they issued that these PCs funds quote can be used to pay the salaries of minister and other staff engaged in the religious mission of institutions and this funding will be provided quote without regard to whether the nonprofit entities provides secular social services. So that means that your tax dollars tax dollars. Every American dollars are going to pay church mortgages clergy salaries It's hard to think of it. More foundational principle being violated than that and I should add that the way in which. Ppp interacts with the small business administration. Is that The paycheck protection program loans are administered by the SBA under the under the auspices of the SBA and there are existing guidelines in the code of federal regulations that prohibit religious organizations and institutions from participating in SBA loans generally The same Cf guidelines also prohibit any nonprofits from receiving business administration loan. So what happened. Was that the text of the cares. Act which again you know ran to. What right several copies of Warren Pieces Changed and I think appropriately so right changed Because the the SBA you know as an administrative agency has the right to interpret delegations authorities sent to it by Congress but expressed delegations trump agency interpretations. Right so it it makes sense. I think for Congress to have said okay. We get it that usually. Spa loans are not available to nonprofits. We could we could debate why that would be. But in this case we definitely want nonprofits to be able to pay their staff as well as for profit entities. Which I don't I don't think there's any problem with it but as always the that that that opens up right like that creates an ambiguity that necessitates some kind of agency interpretation as to how these funds are to be dispersed. Do I have that right? From a from a procedural posturing you do accept that there are also other provisions in the far debt. Say that businesses principally engaged teaching instructing counseling or indoctrinating religion or religious beliefs whether in a religious or secular setting are not eligible. Sba loans so there are. There are additional see co regulations that say no religious groups churches houses of worship etc can get disaster loans immediate disaster assistance program and just generally small business loans up so they're also wiping out those ranked longstanding regulations that are meant to implement this founding. American principle that we do not let the government tax citizens and then turn around and give that those taxpayer funds to churches Ooh So let me. Let me me drill down that because this isn't something that that I knew Coming into this. Are you saying that these guidelines that have been promulgated affect more than just the distribution of the P loans they affect SBA loans in general and? It's it's sort of been back door it in there or I misunderstand. That was when I was trying to say. I'm trying to say that there are are. They are having to suspend these other regulations that language that I quoted businesses principally engaged. They are having to suspend those because obviously that would prohibit them. Sba from giving this money to churches so they are doing. But I think but I think they're only suspending it in connection with funds administered pursuant to the cares act correct because the cares act has explicit language within the act itself saying that nonprofits can apply nonprofits. Yes but not church and so then the right so then the question is what is that me. Yeah so go go ahead. We'll say that I was trying to draw. There's there's the two different sort of aspects there's the nonprofits which the cares act clearly does mean to encompass and I think we all seem to agree rightfully so and then there's what about churches and it would be unconstitutional for the cares act to extend that to churches but SBA is going ahead under these religious liberty torturous rationale and saying we have to do that anyway. Essentially exciting back to Trinity Lutheran. Which is something I was on this fine show to discuss once upon a time and just just so people know to. I was trying to dig in for this episode. Try to figure out. And because we're we submitted comment on these interim final rules today the freedom from Religion Foundation did. I'm trying to dig in and find out. Exactly how much money? Which is obviously very difficult. The one number that came up with that. That is definitely clear. The Jewish federations of North America told. Cbs News that two hundred nineteen synagogues received just over fifty million dollars in loans. So that's one number that we know for sure and then we know that six thousand Catholic churches got this money in round one round one For everybody for everybody who doesn't remember was the first three hundred fifty billion dollars from April April seventeenth round round two three hundred ten billion dollars which started on April twenty seventh. I believe in is still ongoing until it runs out in three thousand Catholic. Churches got the money under around two and if he was -ssume that the Catholic Church has got the average loan for each of those different rounds. Were talking about just shy of one point. Five billion billion with a B. Taxpayer dollars and and that assumption we. We've we covered here that of round one. Two thirds of the funds went to publicly traded companies and the average loan size in that round one was significantly higher than the otherwise average. Because again these big companies have much higher payroll costs so that may be conservative. Estimate it maybe. And if you so to take to take another estimate Christianity today There is a OP ED published by Pat Mark by that Liberal Rag. Yeah Yeah And they said they estimated in the op-ed that Churches could capture one third of the three hundred fifty billion dollar allocation now pat marquis. Who's the executive director of the diocese in Fiscal Management Conference which is an association of Finance officers from Catholic? Diocese was incredulous. That estimate and he put it around three billion dollars if all churches took that's if all churches took advantage of it but even if only third of the churches do we still talking about a billion dollars. I mean this is just a massive massive transfer of wealth from the American taxpayer to churches. And I'm blown away that nobody is up in arms and talking about this. I've written a couple of beds about The freedom from religion foundation and some of our out some of our allies. Not all of them are really up in arms against it but we. I feel like this lonely voices crying in the Wilderness to borrow from some book somewhere and I wanna be specifically clear about the language right that is in the the the cares act because you are correct that the intent right like the the word religious appears once in the eight hundred eighty page cares. Act Eight thirty five. But it's actually eight eighty because you know as well as out and it is talking about grants to higher education in section four right so paycheck protection is section one it the word religious institution appears only the once and it does not appear in the the PP section the section just says we want to increase eligibility for certain small businesses and organizations and this is a page fourteen of the bill sexual eleven. Oh Two subsections C One d little one I did and it says during the covered period in addition to small business concerns any business concern nonprofit organization veterans organization or tribal business concern. Described below shall be eligible to receive a covered loan. And then you know you have to have fewer than five hundred employees and a couple of things so in other words if you are looking at what was put before the members of Congress in voting on this bill and again they could have put the word churches in there and I suspect. The vote would have been similar. But though the Word Church the word religious institution Those words are not in there. What's in there is nonprofit organization and? I suspect that you might have reason as to why we ought to treat searches differently than other nonprofit organizations yet but let's back up before I mean we can go all the way back to. I mean. This really is a founding value. And what the what the SBA's rules do then in limitation of the P P P is this amounts to a mandatory tithe on every citizen. The right the government's coercive taxing power cannot be wielded to oblige Muslims to bankroll temples or to coerce Jews to subsidize Christian and Catholic churches or to force Christians to fund mosques or non-believers like myself to fund any of the above. And any of this crap. I mean yeah. And this is the country's the nation's continents one of the world's first religious freedom laws the Virginia statute for religious freedom warned that taxing citizens in giving that money to churches is quote sinful and tyrannical that to compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical. And that that became the basis of the First Amendment and this has been one of the bedrock principles that has existed in this country for a very very long time and we saw the Supreme Court take the first steps away from that a few years ago in the Trinity Lutheran decision. And this which this being the rules that the SBA has passed in the way. They're implementing this program is just a the next massive leap not forward backward away from this core founding principal well and and let me let me amplify that a little bit that in Supreme Court decisions that the three of us of which the three of us would would disapprove right that are more integrationist accommodation. Est. I'm thinking of cases like Simmons Harris Right. Which is the two thousand into five? Four decision that authorized vouchers go to schools that included Religious schools in Ohio sort of the model for for for vouchers going forward for for their constitutionality again. We all think that case was wrongly decided should have gone the other way one of the things that the Supreme Court We'll say in its accommodation. Opinions is well look. Obviously you know paying the salary of the minister directly is prohibited by the establishment clause of the First Amendment. I mean that that's the kind of is like background. Language of however you may disagree with the entanglement prong of the lemon clause but like look. We all agree that you can't take taxpayer dollars. Collected and then hand it over to a priest to compensate him for the act of priests craft and that seems to be exactly what this is doing. It allows you as a diocese to say. Yeah these are our payroll expenses. These people don't work for free and and we're going to pay them and then the federally guaranteed loan is going to be forgiven. You're you're absolutely right and I wanted to be wrong and you don't have to go back to you. I mean in in Trinity Lutheran. The court even drew that is better. That decision was the court drew. That line I mean when talking about lock versus David's it the court said Daddy wasn't denied a scholarship because of who he was but because of what he proposed to do he was using that scholarship. Those scholarship funds to prepare for the ministry was the words and this is not preparing for the ministry. Is the ministry. Yeah so I dare argument. I blacked out on that because I thought locked. The DAVEY was going to be controlling the other way. Obvious that that precludes the decision intramural Lutheran. You were right on that. I was wrong and we'd have no need to revisit. The clergy are being paid to be clergy. And how is this happening? Wh what how do we not get an injunction against this or whatever? It's an excellent question and it's there's there are there's a lot of scrambling going on behind the scenes with some of the groups. The freedom from religion foundation foremost trying to figure out Exactly what to do here and the best way to approach this and part of this is because it's all happening so fast and there's a lot of a leeway will say given to the government at this point in time and if you were the other side. Their argument is that there's a separation of state and church when any government action burdens religion in any way even if it's just simply a religiously motivated action right. That's the discrimination in the name of God but there is no separation when it comes to government benefits so they WANNA have their cake which they now expect the American taxpayer to buy and eat it too. And if you're on that side and trying to make that argument bringing a case that is not carefully considered against the these loans. I mean it's kind of the best case scenario the best facts the other side could ever possibly hope to defend against a challenge So we're being everybody being very very careful here So why do you? Why do you say that? I'm curious because if you're the other side and you see Trinity Lutheran and you want to take the next step from Trinity Lutheran. Which is we? We want the government to be funding. Our religious ministries. We think we have a right to that. If that if that's your end goal then having the funds being doled out in the middle of a pandemic that is forcing everybody to stay at home is in terms of facts that are favorable to the other side and judges. Maybe being although we're GonNa talk about the Wisconsin Supreme Court in a minute so as I'm saying this judges maybe being reluctant to wait in in the middle of a pandemic and do something that might might cause harm the middle of the pandemic. You can see why would be not necessarily persuasive legally but from a public messaging standpoint And it's the facts that are the most friendly to the other side. I think is the way I would say. That's so that's interesting. I'm glad I'm glad I had you sort of play that out because it this is. It's a crucially important consideration whenever you were talking about you know potentially packaging a case that that You know if it is to have implications on first major Britain's right then you're you're talking about looking at an oral argument before our Supreme Court and and we've talked about the importance of having cases that not only present legal question precisely right but that that have the facts on your side so I I liked. I like getting into the because I have to tell you on on on first blush like to to me. I don't know that right. The Oh you know are we can't pay pastor's salary during a pandemic. I'm sitting there thinking like you know again. Not Not speaking as a small business owner who makes his living Recording stuff that people listen to remotely but like you know what works real well in. Podcast format is church services. Right like like how they're still bidding donations from all of course like obviously to double dipping in doing fine. Look Trinity Lutheran didn't they didn't win and Trinity Lutheran because the law was on their side. They won because that case was about kids skinning their knees and that's what they made it about. It wasn't really about that. They set up a little plastic slide outside of the Supreme Court and their public messaging around. This was fantastic. I mean the Supreme Court used the word youngsters talking about the youngsters might skin their knees in the gravel like that is how they won the case not because the law was on their side. They shifted the law because they made these. They took it on the most favorable side effects they could find. And so that's something we desperately don't want to happen and and I mean and one other things that we're looking at is all the other flaws not just with this central constitutional principle being violated but all the other flaws with the way the SBA is managing this program especially as it applies to churches. Because they're exempting them from other things like discrimination rules of two big ones that they're exempting them from our affiliation rules and of course any type of oversight or reporting or anything like that whatsoever which which I'd love to get into. Well let's so. Let's get into that and let me just sort of lay down a little bit of the background in secular organization. We put a pin in this at the outset Secular Organizations can apply for five. Oh One C. Three tax exempt status as well and I just. I know you know this Thomas you know this. We've we've said this multiple times the difference between five. Oh One C. Three tax exempt status and other forms of tax exempt status. Is that a five. Oh One C. Three exemption operates in both directions right so in other words not only are you. Revenues tax exempt but contributions to that organization are tax deductible so in other words. It's not only taking out of the public treasury by implication that is fewer tax dollars collected But but directly one for one dollars are exempted from taxation that are donated to five a one C three organizations. It is why Does does have four associated with that okay but but many. It's why we are circumspect. When you were here in your capacity as attorney for the freedom from religion foundation a secular five zero one c three organization you cannot lobby on behalf of legislation. You cannot lobby on behalf of a particular political campaign and organizations like planned. Parenthood will Start a five. Oh One C. Four organization most like the Industry Standard Practices to include the word action after it. Right so planned. Parenthood C. Four is planned parenthood action and there was a freedom from religion of action. You know that would that would be your see for those. Entities are still tax exempt on their revenues. It's just that contributions to that are no longer tax deductible and that makes total sense because we don't want to do political lobbying the idea is we don't want to collect from the general revenue and then use that to subsidize. Democrats giving money to you. Know a particular campaigner or vice versa. So with all of that in mind one of the biggest distinctions is my five. Oh One C. Three clients have to jump through an inordinate amount of hoops in terms of maintaining their status with the IRS. You certainly can speak to that from your from F- Churches just don't say. Hey we're church we don't we don't have to. We have to publish anything. So the public trust requires public transparency. Without it. We can't we? The public can verify that nonprofits are honoring that public trust that that the public trust is not being abused or exploited so I but once he threes have to file these annual financial disclosures with the IRS. That's formed nine ninety or some variation of it depending on what your your organization is taking in for that year depends on how detailed the form nine hundred has to be but for like F R. We're we're basically tracking every penny that comes in and every penny that goes out and where it's going but churches don't have to do that. They are financial and informational black holes. They have no financial transparency or accountability. At all which by the way means that they are already rife with fraud and abuse. I've written a couple articles about this one for rewire news. One for thank progress But according to the SBA's rules for the PP Cares Act. These churches qualified for funds. Even if they've never registered as a church with the IRS so literally wait. Wait wait wait. What what ruling is guidance? Guidance is brought to you by the opening arguments. Church of the latter day lower than new church. So if you are not let's not past lengthly that like how how it is not. This is not an exaggeration. Okay literally the first and last time the taxpayers or the government could hear of this type of a church would be when they apply for and get this loan and get forgiven and then we we never heard from before we could never hear from them again. That is that is absolutely within the ambit of the rules that the SBA has proposed there's the SBA issued a frequently asked questions regarding participation of faith based organizations in the P P P And this this is actually pretty clearly stated in there so what I want to talk about the affiliations b paragraph But I don't WanNa pass to the over this churches that have not been recognized as churches by the IRS. So in other words like I a we could start the Church of opening arguments and petition ship. The rule of law I do. I have tidy. I used to be full of books that you stood matter back. No but but but seriously like that's it. Is there an opportunity so now right like let me ask and F F R F may may face more of a challenge on this than than other organizations but I would think that there would be some interest in you know for example not not having You know either obvious. Furrowed based religions right. My local self-help grew you know. Fancies HIMSELF TO BE THE NEXT L. Ron Hubbard right or you know. Very obscure potentially offensive satanist aligned organizations also receiving money like is there an opportunity to enlist you know mainstream kind of liberal religious organizations or is just. Everybody's knows that the trauma I think everybody's noses at the trough already and then part of it is we part of it is case brothers and sisters let us read from the book of deep dives this one on emoluments so say the Torres. A good one. We we know a few things about what's happening and I think the some people in Congress are finally starting to wake up to the amount of fraud and abuse. It's probably happening in the program and I'm sure there'll be some big reports issued long after the fact but I mean the. We know that the bigger the church the more likely it is to get one of these loans right now. We for Paula. White works in the White House and for the trump campaign. The idea that she is not a pulling in one of these. Forgivable loans to me is just of courtship I mean I have no evidence for that other than the fact that she is working in the White House but I find it very difficult to believe that that she robbed Jefferson. All these folks and let's I mean the Westboro Baptist. Church is certainly eligible if anyone knows their legal rights it is illiberal Baptist Church and so what you're saying. Fred. Phelps debt right correct yeah but but nevertheless Shirley Phelps Roper may draw her salary under these. Sba guides. I'm just editing. Are Patriots indulge at the higher levels? Yeah so I mean this is this is bonkers from a simple transparency oversight standpoint giving money to fully unaccountable organizations is just mind blowing stupid well and as we're talking about accountability. Now now I WANNA pull that pen out and I'm going to review paragraph six from the SBA Faq which says is my faith based organization disqualified from any SBA loan programs because it is affiliated with other faith based organizations such as a local Diaz Dialysis. And then the answer is not necessarily and I could go through that. I read that. As how on Earth? Are we going to prevent the You know focus on the family from taking out. Eleven different loans for all of its various arms and and the answer seems to be. You're not you're not but it's a little worse than that too. So I mean affiliate Palliative Hope One organization nation has control over another right. You know you're hearing company. And you have a wholly owned subsidiary. So normally we have this prohibition so that the parent company doesn't get alone that counts the subsidiary and then the subsidiary also go get alone which would be basically the parent company then double dipping in effect for the subsidiary if that made sense to everybody. That's why those rules are in place but the SBA has said well not only our church churches allowed to do this but there's this thing called the Religious Freedom Restoration Act so we can't even think of examining what churches affiliations looks like so theoretically hypothetically a Catholic school could get alone as could the church that claims that school which would then be the school getting double counted then. The local parish could claim both the church and the school. So that'd be triple counting the school and double counting the church. Then the diocese could get a chunk of funding for all of those as well then the archdiocese on up. So you have double triple quadruple. I mean in all of that is dipping into the public purse. And I WANNA be clear here that this doesn't require deliberate fraud or malice. Even on the church is a part of the church's right just simply poor communication or even a poor understanding of their own. Opaque nature of church governance could lead to easily lead to this double and triple dipping. And that's because the the SBA has basically said. Hey all you have to do is copy and paste this paragraph into your your loan application. And then you're good to go. You are absolutely you're going to get it. It's a it's a basically a blanket exemption which also hilarious because Riffa the religious freedom restoration. Act which is what the SBA's using to justify its blanket exemption calls for particularized examinations of any type of exemptions. So it's the exact opposite of what Riffa would even require if it should even be invoked in this case which it should not so it's mind-blowing every so much is wrong. Isn't it amazing? How the government's too big and blow it in too much spending until there's a happy hand out money to churches and it's like Oh bio means no take seconds author helping same. It's also an opportunity by the way I hope. One of them does like wholly owned subsidiary H. O. L. Y. They should definitely. I'm just saying are. Are there any institutional checks on this debris disbursement whatsoever right is there? Is there anything that's going to trigger any review by anyone at any level? Well so there have been there have been a lot of. I don't want to be entirely concrete on my answer here because so much is changing so quickly and where we've been shouting this from the rooftops for a while now. I'm I'm hopeful that we will start to see some changes accountability. We've submitted comments On the on these different rules pointing out why the SBA is blowing it and the changes that need to be made I would encourage everybody to reach out to their members of Congress and do the same point out. Not only that this is unconstitutional but other issues with these affiliation rules with the fact that churches don't file any financial information with the IRS. All of that really needs to be talked about. I mean write a letter to your local paper right. Not Ed do whatever you can to start raising the volume on this issue because really do feel like a lonely voice in the wilderness over here. If this seems like it's part of why ask the question about partnering with other you know. Mitt with with maybe other faith based institutions to sort of say like no. Hey look in it and I'm thinking again part of this is you know nostalgia for the opinions that I grew up in law school from the nineteen fifties and nineteen sixties. Where you know the the concern was we. We do not want. We want a strict separation. Ism I mean that used to be the Protestant position because we don't want the Catholic Church to come in and you know as you've just described it you know sextuple dip on public funds and so you know even if that means we don't get access to this like we would much rather have that than you know have a structured series of payments going out to the archdiocese of Baltimore over. You know the diagnosis of this forever. Like that's that seems nonsensical and and the argument is again one that that that seems to sort of transcend. Because I don't look like right. Were were liberal. Atheists right is kind of easy that how do you? How do you build a coalition? It seems to me. It's not hard to build a coalition around the principle of. Hey maybe if you don't pay taxes at all maybe you shouldn't have access to taxpayer funds to pay the salaries of the people who do the thing where you don't pay the taxes and all that that that doesn't strike me as a hard argument to me it doesn't you're gonNA feel real dumb when they finally pray away. Cova did for us. Andrew a hard argument make. But you're seeing what you're seeing the why right now. I think I think actually is in practice. Because if you are getting money from the government during this emergency and it's allowing you to you know. Stay afloat personally and professionally. Are you GONNA turn around and challenged that because principle dictates and we're finding out the answers. There's answers no for sure right like you know it. The quickest way to convert any libertarian is to give him a note non-recourse government sure but. I. I don't think we have any hope of convincing Paula white to get off the rain but but but in terms of making the argument I know I mean I I represent small business owners. Who were shot out of the first two waves of funding right And and the argument that hey the priests down the street is drawing one hundred thousand dollars in salary but you're going to have to lay off your salesforce that that seems to me to have some potential resonance beyond just the our our traditional circles about that. I think that's fair I can I? Can I tie a few threads together before we move on with? Maybe with a little dash of this Andrew was right. Oh yeah I mean when Bill Bar was nominated back in two thousand eighteen December? There wasn't as much opposition to him as I think I would have liked to have seen in part because he was an ag under an early administration that though it was conservative at least seem to care for our norms but F R F was really intensely opposed to bar. We saw this guy who had quote blamed secularism for virtually every contemporary societal problem. He wanted American law to be. Based on God's law he said that groups like F F R F. Our supporters were clearly fanatics He argued that preventing public schools from organizing and imposing prayers which is required by the constitution caused soaring juvenile crime and drug addiction. You know these were not isolated statements. These were themes and accusations. That bar repeated constantly going so far as to claim that this is one of my favorites quote. Extremist notions of separation of church had inflicted a quote moral lobotomy on the country. So we saw an ideologue. At Christian nationalist who held was held back under previous administration but who would be enabled under a trump administration? And we were right. I mean bar is just dismantling the DOJ destroying the pursuit of justice corrupting the integrity of this important independent law enforcement body and tearing down the norms that we rely on so heavily. And I really wish more people would listen to us about our because we need those norms more than ever and. I hope that everybody listens here because this program is exceedingly dangerous. I mean direct funding of churches and preachers salaries is fundamentally on American and unconstitutional to quote that earlier law. It is sinful and tyrannical tyrannical. And this is a power that we are giving to Donald Trump. A man who has care was carried into office on a wave of Christian nationalism and evangelical support. Do we really want to abolish this critical norm? That taxpayers can't cannot be forced to support a religion under Donald Trump. Is this a tool a weapon that we want to give to trump if not speak now or forever hold your peace? Because I don't know what's going to happen if we don't speak up and stop this. Well I can get on my soapbox now. Sorry that that that was a spectacular soapbox and and I appreciate But but I'm going to unpack that It I I made I made. I've made this subsequent comparison because look I I was not you know sort of on the ramparts about Bars going to be a disaster of a pick And I was was wrong about that. And and you you were right about that and I often. I put it this way. You know if you could go back in time and January twenty seventeen replace a nominating jeff sessions with nominating bill. Bar TO BE Attorney General. I certainly would have at that time and I think many of us you know kind of in liberal circles would have taken that right. We would have said. Oh yeah look like this guy is an institutional guy and and that's at least a better pick than you know the guy who was deemed to racist under Ronald Reagan to be appointed to the federal bench by a Republican Senate. You know that that would have been a no brainer and we would have been wrong right like it was the ethics of Jeff sessions paved their way for their being Muller investigation in the first place so So that was a fantastic soapbox. Andrew S. was right. Andrew T was wrong. I for one vow to be less vigilant in the future on. Suppose no no you're right and and it's it's the saddest victory lap effort but are you are entitled to that. Victory so let's trance. Let's transition over to something. That definitely is going to make us all issue. Good news issue go ahead. Instead of ten. Thousand people have covert in Wisconsin or have or have had four hundred or so have died. Wisconsin Supreme Court forced four hundred thousand Wisconsin voters to head to the polls in person to vote on April seventh. Something I am still as I said earlier salty about and they've done something just about even worse struck down a stay at home order last night in the put. This in. Wisconsin has one of the oldest state departments of health in the country. It was created about a decade after the civil war and the legislature gave it like the power to quarantine citizens to shut down schools. And this was. The Board of Health is what it was known. As so during the Spanish flu it mandated a quote indefinite quarantine The in nineteen eighteen. I think that lasted for about three months. Who knows how many lives that saved? So basically the power has been given to the executive branch to act quickly to respond to pandemic outbreak in that that power has existed for about a century and a half here in Wisconsin in the early nineteen eighties in response to the AIDS outbreak the Wisconsin legislature clarified. The powers that the Department of Health Services. What it's called now has so it can issue orders like emergency stay at home orders and it can issue rules and regulations that go through this regular rulemaking procedure sort of like the Administrative Procedure Act. It's chapter two two seven of Wisconsin. So you have the order's under Wisconsin Statute to five two and that allows us to do things like a quote closed schools and forbid public gatherings in schools churches and other places to control outbreaks and epidemics end quote pretty clear. It can also under two five two zero two six. The Department may authorize implement all emergency measures necessary to control communicable diseases again very clear. So you have orders under Wisconsin statute to five two. And you have rules under Wisconsin under chapter two seven. Well and CAN I. Can I Jahan? Yeah Yeah I'm sure you're going to do it. But like states are also sovereign entities. That have plenary police powers to act on behalf of the health and of their skirts. Right so you know. In addition to the express delegations of authority in the rules and orders that you're discussing like the there's a there's a pre constitutional a thirteenth century. Saxony sovereign right of the state to enact general legislation and act with the force of Legislation. Which is what executive order does for the health and welfare of its citizens so please continue but but to it. Sounds like I thought so. What the legislature did I mean this is really important? The legislature gave the Department of Health the power to issue these emergency orders and the power to pass these rules and the legislature did this. Because I mean this makes sense to control outbreaks epidemics. You can't go through a thirteen step. Eighteen Day or minimum or forty nine day maximum process. Right you have to act now and that makes a lot of sense but Republican leaders in the legislature sued the Department of Health and they claimed the order issued under the orders power that the legislature gave to the Department of Health and health services was unconstitutional because it didn't go through through the rulemaking process. That's essentially what they were arguing. The case But what they were doing was asking the court to Legislate. Essentially the legislature was saying court. Rescind the powers that we have granted to the Department of Health Services and Rebecca Bradley Pat Rogan Sack and Ziegler and Dan. Kelly who you will remember from our last conversation actually lost his Supreme Court race by ten points more than ten points on April seventh but whose term doesn't end until July thirtieth agreed to do so so those four justices or the Wisconsin Supreme Court agreed to strike down that rule. Because it didn't go that order because it didn't go through the rulemaking process so this is really a textbook case of legislative from the bench. Which is something I've heard about from somewhere so I tell me what you said. This is a textbook case of judicial legislation. I I certainly agree with you. How sense that gets bandied about usually by the other side to describe Cases in which the outcome is one with which they do not agree. How how would you define that right? Like what what particularly non-legal audiences most of our audience How do you? How do you spot judicial activism in good question the legislature could have passed at any time in the past weeks that we've had this order enforce? They could have passed a law that revoked the power of the DHS to pass such orders for instance. It could have done that. It could have passed a law. That actually dictated what dacoven response would be. I mean it's head I think almost two months now and it's been meeting so it had two months to meet and address this issue and it didn't do that instead. What it did was. Ask The court to strike down the order as as violating the power that the legislature actually gave to the Department of Health Services. And and the reason it didn't pass the legislature didn't pass its own law was because first of all. I didn't have a plan and Second. Of all this is a power graph. Passing any law would have been subject to governor everts his veto but by forcing this through what they wanted to do was forced a new order through a rulemaking process which is then subject to a legislative veto veto. Excuse me so basically This all ties back to this history. In Wisconsin here is so convoluted the concert. State state legislature is still strongly strongly. Republicans not close to two one because of gerrymandering because of the massive gerrymanders and and it took a ton of power in the lame duck session when Walker was voted out which I know. Everybody forgets that part And this is really just part and parcel to that. So I mean the legislature had this tool at its disposal. This really perfect remedy. It could have passed a law that either revoked. The power from the D. H. S. Two orders or imposed. Its own solution to getting people to stay at home and he didn't do that instead. It went to the court and asked the court to basically legislate and it didn't do that because it didn't want to have to go through governor versus veto that's a political calculation on my part. I don't it's obviously not in the opinion itself and the opinion is just bonkers from so many different That and that is an official legal term bonkers from about eight different ways. Yeah and you said that. Kelly's term ends July. Joe I believe July thirty first I believe yes. Okay yeah so I mean. This is a lame duck decision and it's being called that the pandemic power grab the lame duck decision. I mean by the sixth word of the opinion you did they were wrong I mean breathtakingly so they said this case is about the assertion of power by one unelected official and was not a cert it was delegated by the legislature. Who was the plaintiff in the lawsuit? So that is why this is legislating from the bench Andrew. If you want to do better answer to that by all means I'll know I thought I thought that was the only like Cottesloe that I would act at that I would add. Is the the the cry of kind of go to the legislature is sometimes misused particularly when you're talking about trampling on the rights of minorities right? Yeah so but the most egregious example. I can come up with in. Recent memory was the Supreme Court's not just issued laying on gerrymandering right. Well if you don't like the fact that your vote doesn't matter just vote for somebody else which which is kind of a tough one to swallow here right purportedly. The interests that are at stake are right. The interest generally of the people of Wisconsin. Right like this is not protecting the majority at the hands of the tyrannical rule of injury upon strikes me as a tough challenge. But but again why it's why through that sort of softball question to you because because it could be hard to kind of parse out on those lines And I running time but is this one of those things that because this is a state issue. This is the end of the road. Like is there any away to appeal this or anything or is it just because it's like while now? This is the highest court in the state and this is a fully state issue. I mean I think that's probably accurate right now. Everybody's trying to deal with the absolute chaos that this this has created So there's there's just a ton of confusion and a lot of so for instance. I'm in Dane County. I I live in Madison Wisconsin and Dane County and medicine. The local county and municipal governments are putting in place their own orders which is essentially just basically copying and pasting the order that struck down and doing it themselves But within you know in less than an hour of this order coming down bars were opening all across the state and they were full and part of the part of the chaos has been contributed to this. I'm sorry this opinion was so reckless. It's bad enough to strike down the order in its entirety but they actually rejected calls from both sides to stay the opinion. And that's why bars are able to open with now. In our they could've stayed the opinion until the legislature had worked out a way to lift the measures and stop the spread of this deadly virus but the justices instead chose chaos well issuing the opinion from the safety of their remote home offices and by that the conservative justices couldn't even be bothered to be clear about whether they were voting for this day or there's a dissenting opinion. That's basically like hey. Are you guys staying this or not? Nobody knows that made it into an opinion is just mind blowing in of itself. What he would normally be the justice who saw that opinion and still let the whole thing go out without making it clear whether or not they were voting for the state so this is just right now. The state is just in complete and utter chaos caused by a one party taking over The Supreme Court in legislating along partisan lines. Yeah and and let me jump in on that I agree with that. A hundred percent you can appeal a state. Supreme Court decision to the US Supreme Court. But you still require social. I if there if if the State Supreme Court has as a crucial as as as an aspect of its holding decided on an issue threshold issue of US constitutional law right so in other words us us. Supreme Court can always found like well. And here's the thing the opinion says. I'm just GonNa read from page thirty. Two of the opinion that emergency order twenty eight is declared unlawful invalid and unenforceable and as you read the opinion there is a grab bag of. This violates the. Us Constitution violates the constitution. It violates how we delegate authority from Wisconsin legislature to executive agencies right like in addition to everything else that is not clear it is not clear that there is a ruling based on the US Constitution contained within this opinion. It's not clear that it's not. I mean I sort of share I. It's why I love that. You pose that question to Andrew. I'm not surprised that his answer was kind of like room. Because of how this is a great point Andrea and I just I just. I made an assumption that it was it was for Holy State Law because of the way. They're parsing the statutes. But it is so inept. The majority is so inept at doing that that they may well have walked into it. Not that I think the. Us Supreme Court. Do much to help us. Here either So it's yeah because I was just thinking it was like that one weird trick on abortion laws that you talked about Andrew Torres where it's like the the way of getting around the Supreme Court striking those down and that kind of thing but Okay we are definitely time but you think there's some hope of appealing to a circuit court on the straight to Titian for Sir. Yes okay so well. That's probably not and that's right. I mean the the point that you just made on the one weird trick. It is notable my my point is just I wanNA make sure that I'm not overstating this in any way. My point is that the majority did not even attempt to sort of one weird trick this right like it. It's so sad incompetently written that you can't tell right like you have to kind of infer that it does not raise constitutional issues like if I were part of the evil majority. You know four three majority here like you know it would not have been hard to say like we find this in violation of Wisconsin Constitution. Right on say this. We do. Not read delegations of authority as being in Pari Materia with federal case law. But instead like they quote from NLRB decisions right. It's it's just it's it's great. We should give credit where it's due to the conservative justices Hagedorn who was with Scott Walker's chief legal counsel. He just one election last year Worrying many of us here but he actually did the right thing. In this case he was one of the three in the four. Three Wrote a pretty blistering dissent Good quote from it. The rule of law and therefore true liberty of the people is threatened. No less by a tyrannical judiciary than by torrential executive or legislature. Today's decision may not be good policy but it is not grounded in the law so pretty pretty startling statement from Scott. Walker's buddy especially given that Scott Walker is doing a victory lap about this decision on twitter so describe them and having not not being boots on the ground in Wisconsin What is the makeup of the Wisconsin Supreme Court going to look like post July right so we know Kelly has been replaced and the incoming Supreme Court judge is is presumably Potent host July? This decision would have been the other way right. I mean on other cases rightly. Give if you're suggesting that Haggadah Haggen might sort of otherwise have conservative leanings. Yes that's what I mean. It's to court. Generally speaking right now When the lame duck is gone it'll be four. Three generally speaking which is obviously considerably better. Because you only have to change one mind or get one person to recognize their conscience is actually talking to them. And then you have the decision flipping so hag would have been the swing. Vote here in a if this had not been a lame duck decision. Got It so gun to your head. You have to persuade Haggi during or John. Roberts who would you pick God yes? I think that's an answer there. I mean I mean Hagedorn only you know. He was only in office for less than a year now and has done this already so I would probably take him right now. I mean we all like to think of Robert says the swing vote. But he really. He's done the right thing like once upon a time. I mean he the only dissent he's ever read from. The bench was in Burqa. Fell like this is not a snow on our side so I I've been shouting from the rooftops. My brother does as you well know so. Yeah the the effort to to rebrand John Roberts as the the centrist because he is the center of gravity and folks can't differentiate between those two is continues to be one of my hobby horses as you well and I know we have to go. I just want. We can't leave without saying that Rebecca Bradley Judge Justice Rebecca Bradley Compared the stay at home order to the internment of Japanese-americans. Yeah and issued a three page footnote super defensive because she did this oral argument and then doubled down in the opinion and she had to defend herself in A. It's a three page long footnote. Just just mind blowing stupid really. Just just absolutely stupid. Calm thinking that core Matsu was about government overreach as opposed to about flat out. Racism is just just I mean I guess it's on brand for for for them but anyway so I just have to touch on that we andrew. We do another three hours on that. 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But you know do Conrad Michael's right. We love you Conrad. Oh no social. This firm has ever talk to the hand. I need you close. That's one of my mission parameters. Trust me I don't know why you cry and now it's time for the t three answer time I've praying for some sort of technicality. But I think I blew it. Let's find out all right so double jeopardy question. Defendant charged with attempted murder. There is a preliminary hearing in which the presiding judge Here's testimony Decides that the prosecution failed to establish probable cause and so therefore dismissed that out then grand jury is empanelled and the grand jury hears testimony from the same witnesses comes back and is like. I don't know what you're talking about we're going to indict this defendant four attempted murder the question and then defendant says No. Hey this this seems like double jeopardy to me. So defendant moves to quash the indictment are they successful You guys at Thomas you narrow attend a or C. Andrew went with C. Which was denied the motion because the defendant has not yet been in jeopardy of conviction on the attempted murder charge. Thomas you with a grant the motion because the dismissal of the first charge on the merits bars any further prosecution. And I am going to tell you that this is not the nineteen eighty miracle on ice. You got you guys analyzed it exactly perfectly right which I absolutely. It's a question of wind is double jeopardy. Attach and it at you you even. I'm incredibly upset at the words. Right double jeopardy attach is with. The jury is empanel right. I I'd have no excuse. I can't tell you how mad I am about this. I totally do me a favor. Don't show this wanted to judge Sullivan. Let's leave this. One will believe this off. All pretend that didn't happen. I blew it. I'm so mad. Maybe I just love Andrew Seidl so much. I want to make him look better. I appreciate I appreciate that Judge Sullivan. Got Questions wrong on the bar to. So there's that maybe let's not reminded some questions wrong. Okay Gosh I had the I had it. I knew everything is so mad. Okay well I suck. But let's notice listener the weirdest thing for me if you were sort of between a and C is the inclusion of the clause this so I started with their correct incorrect funny. I just noticed that now thing to say but this is the bar is just not a good game of whether or not. You're going to be a good lawyer. You the reasoning was all right and that's the important part that you know. That's true because if I was a real lawyer I just look it up. That'd be like here's my reasoning and I'm using that raising to look up whether I've blown it on the specific fact that people getting now it's cool. I should have been thank you for trying to make excuses. I appreciate it but I blew it. There's no way to get around it. I I am just. I'm not a fan of the bar. I've taken it twice. I don't think it's a good measure of I am opposed to but anyway I'll get them out. That's that's which was ner Margot boomer before for the list of whose like you guys eliminated in DB was sort of obviously incorrect. But I I also wanted to say that the that neither of us were tempted the by D. which was denied because double jeopardy does not come into play. They didn't want to give away attach until there has been a conviction or acquittal. Not True. Trial begins jury's impaneled double jeopardy `attaches you were again right on that so now we can do. We can we can. Maybe they blow it up so mad all right well who didn't blow it. Andrew Future Andrew Hall of Justice Thomas Andrew. This week's winner is Josh Zimmerman on twitter at. Yes it's the Real Jay Z. Who says I'm going to have to go with C. dismissal during a preliminary hearing this too early jeopardy attach eliminating a and B but it does attach before conviction eliminating d. Which is exactly right. He then goes on to have a really interesting discussion on whether the judge would dismiss awards sanctions. It's a it's a good answer and for that reason everyone should give Joshua follow on twitter. That's at yes. It's the real capital. Jay Z and congratulations Josh on a being the Real Jay Z. And be on being this week's winner of three congratulations. That's our show. Thanks so much for listening. Thanks to Andrew. Seidel for staying mad. I I want him even more mad in the future but always a great guest Definitely leader in the clubhouse in terms of guesting and and thinks most of all to Andretti. Andrew is the right amount of mad to really. He's he's the guy that gives the emotional speech in the clubhouse. Not The guy that takes the back to the bullpen flights. I disagree he needs to be more mad. Okay I see what you're getting at but I just want a little more. It's okay well he'll get there I apologize to all our listeners for missing that question. 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How We Protect Our Voting Rights with Ari Berman

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How We Protect Our Voting Rights with Ari Berman

"Welcome to episode thirty three of how we went all over the country. People are staying home staying safe and doing extraordinary things. Were giving you the tools that you need to make a difference right now right from your living room. The Best Antidote to anxiety is what action we need your help and we're going to get through this together today. You're going to hear from voting rights expert Ari permit. We're GONNA talk about the incredible outcome of the Wisconsin election voting during a pandemic. And what we've got to keep an eye out for in November was swing left. Volunteers had a huge impact on the Wisconsin election. Volunteers from all over the country. In fact we're going to talk about it and tell you how you can join us this week. For the how we win letter writing. Partee I'm Steve Pearson and Mariah Craven and this is how we win how you doing Steve. How're you in your family? We're good Lucie is Back to school this week doing her. Virtual classrooms zoom classrooms at home learning said junior in high school it is challenging but in some cases she doesn't Miss Having to face the social scene at her high school so You know there's pluses and minuses mostly minus. But we're working at how about you. I'm GONNA I really appreciate the social pressure being off as well so I'm right there with her. You know one of the things that I've loved seeing on my social media feeds this week. Is people posting their high school. Graduation photos in solidarity with This year's high school graduates. You aren't going to have graduations Ramona's I think it's really cool for some people. It's like a little lake. Here's how I look but it's fun. It's a fun idea to acknowledge that this is a really tricky time for high school seniors. Who for four three three almost four years were hearing about what an amazing time they were. GonNa have and and now. They're sitting at home on on zooms. Yeah you know what to say about it. We're we're going to get through. You know a data time week at a time but we're going to do it together and It's it's been cool. Seeing people come together in this moment in. That's what moments of crisis really do. Is They The show is who really are as humans and And I've been proud of my community. That's such a nice sentiment. Yeah we are really all kind of coming together and And looking out for each other more often than not and and that's a I guess a positive to take away from Gosh. What challenging time. Should we talk about the the big news this week? Which is that. What news is that? What's the big news of the week so much? Donald Trump has declared himself king. No the big news. The big news is that our is that in in you know. As Donald Trump continues his ranting and raving Democrats have come together around a single presidential candidate and that is a threat Joe Biden who got endorsements from Bernie Sanders and Barack Obama. This Week Right. We have a presumptive Democratic nominee. Now and Boy I have to say I'm excited to have the primary over with. It really feels like the right time. I mean we're going through enough as a country dealing with the corona virus But I also want to say how much I appreciate. All of the candidates who have run for president this cycle. It's been the most diverse field that I can remember in my lifetime. There's been some great dialogues. I appreciate everything that Bernie. Sanders has done for the Democratic Party in the last couple of cycles and we've had some great progressive candidates We've had some great conversations about the ways to get to what you know. We universally thank has. Democrats is our common gold and healthcare for everybody and which is so stark right now and you know An important especially in the context of this pandemic so we have a nominee and And he may or may not be. Everyone's first choice coming through this but There's a recent poll that already eighty six percent of Democrats polled said they will vote for Biden over trump and that I think As we coalesce around our candidate will get even higher so I'm glad to be through the primaries while let's let's back up a little bit because yes. We have a presidential Democratic presidential candidate but for those states that still have primary elections. There are still down. Ballot races So we WANNA make sure that people get out and vote for those down ballot races which I think one of the many things this pandemic has shown us is that it's the people who aren't at the federal level who are having the biggest impact on our lives right. Now and you know this just reinforces being that Mariah. Craven is always said Ou. Which is that if you want to have the biggest impact on your community vote down ballot because yes the federal folks always say they always say the federal folks have a lot of power but the real day-to-day impact on your lives on which hospitals are open on. What relief that you get from the county and the city that comes from those down ballot folks absolutely and we're going to talk a lot about Wisconsin because Pete by the way. Congratulations everyone. Who worked on that. Wisconsin Supreme Court race We won. We had an amazing amount of people volunteering. Making phone calls writing letters for that race in Wisconsin just absolutely insane circumstances around that election We've done like three podcasts. About Wisconsin coming up to this. We had former. Senator Russ Feingold on earlier. The chair of the Democratic Party. We had a in Wisconsin. We had Jared or organizer there. It's right And we talked about it for good reason because it's a very important state and and this election had big national consequences. We'RE NOT GONNA get too far into it because we talk with Berman later and we get Way Into Wisconsin and what it means in his takeaways to great interview. But I I will say to your point about the importance of investing in these local elections. You have on the one hand Wisconsin. That is A Republican majority that. You know you've got terribly gerrymandered. District ran all the voter suppression voter. Id Laws and ultimately Risking people's lives to vote the flip side of that literally Pun intended when I say flip is in Virginia. We just had some Election reforms going through the governor in Virginia Making Election Day. A Net a holiday in Virginia Like like that has to happen everywhere. Huge vote by mail for the entire state extended Early voting where you can vote. You have more time to vote in person which means the lines are much shorter and you have. You can have more distance between voters exactly all those things that the CDC recommends that we're GonNA talk about more Ra. But that's a direct consequence of us working hard to flip those local legislatures and get the TRIFECTA in Virginia last week. We talked about the era and they were the last state to last date needed to ratify that so to your excellent point you always say. Mariah craven always says. Local elections are where it's at down ballot where she's right listen to Mariah. Let's talk a little bit about what you're talking about is you know. Encou- like places where voters were really dedicated to getting out on her before Election Day and also places where a lot of volunteers from around. The country really focused their efforts. And I want to talk about how that is kind of hard to do right now. It feels. It feels a little tough for volunteers to reach out to voters especially by phone right now. That is that what you're hearing too. Well it's a challenging time and I'll say these are rough numbers. We don't have the official count yet as we're recording this So don't hold me to these numbers but in Wisconsin. It's looking like Wisconsin. Swing left of volunteers made Around sixty thousand phone calls Red Wisconsin and wrote about sixty five thousand letters to voters in Wisconsin. A remarkable amount of engagement and so volunteers are doing that work but it is a challenging time in Mariah. You're working with sea change. You're working on local elections in Los Angeles right now. We have one coming up on in early. May to hold onto this congressional seat. Nca twenty-five which your experience around voter engagement right now well. I think that we're gonNA talk about this. In a few minutes with Ari too. But you know voters are at home right now So it's a prime time to call them and I think what I have Volunteers who are telling me like a really want to help and I know how important this election that we have coming up in. May is But I'M WORRIED ABOUT CALLING SOMEBODY. Who's out of work right now? Their family might be hungry. Their kids have been at home all day. And maybe haven't paid rent and you know I just want to tell people that is the absolute right instinct to have that you feel for the people that you're reaching out to and that's why we're calling them and that's where the phone calls starts so if you are phone banking at this point in time whether it's for A special election coming up or a primary or even going into November no matter what your script says you start with asking people how they are and how their families are doing and then you listen and that is your entry into a conversation that somebody might really need And then you know after you talk to them about what's going on. You can remind them that it is really important even with all that. They're going through for them to plan to vote because Lake. We said the people that we've elected at the top aren't doing a whole hell of a lot for us right now fact. They're doing more harm than good in some cases so it's really important for voters to replace them so we get some relief and we don't have to go through this again and it's great advice. You know maybe have some resources at the ready. A lot of campaigns doing this already with their phone banks where they have some resources for people that need them Who are affected by this pandemic were affected by but would ever degree but You know maybe pull some local resources for people when you're making phone calls and And you can offer that up to so Yeah what I've been hearing from from voters. Is You know the biggest concern is around. The stimulus checks Which started going out this weekend and will continue going out for the next month. So that they have direct deposit they might have already received it but Checks are going to be in the mail in the coming weeks as well but you can always direct people to irs dot Gov for information about the stimulus payments and also if they need to update their banking information. Obviously we're also hearing from people who have lost their jobs and just a reminder that unemployment benefits are state by state so they're going to need to talk to their state level unemployment bureau about that and you know the the lines to talk to. Somebody are really long for that they gotTA stick with it. They need to be persistent. And then you can visit. Aunt BERTHA DOT COM for The closest food bank in your community and then just reminding people that there is a national moratorium on foreclosures right now but the moratorium on evictions for Renters Varies Community. By community and again they need to be persistent and stick with making phone calls and writing emails to folks that they need help from. Because you know just because you don't have a return caller return email right away. Don't stop everything's backed up but we have to stick with it to make sure people are taking care of some great resources we'll put Aunt BERTHA DOT COM on our site to for people to find food banks near them and be able to suggest to other people as well. Thank you for all that Maria. Thanks for Lang. We talk about that. I know people it just I you know I know. People are so worried about each other right now and so everything you can do to help makes it makes a difference so keep up the good work. Everyone Yup and talked about one of my reasons for hope with election reforms going on Virginia as a direct consequence of the great work that we did And people seem to this. Podcast did last year in Virginia. We're GONNA talk about the takeaways from Wisconsin again. We won that Supreme Court seat which is really important. Wisconsin Supreme Court seat. We'll talk more about that with our eight so Let's get into action in We've got a party. This Thursday the sixteenth. A letter writing party that we're GONNA host. That's right we need you to sign up if you haven't already download some letters from vote forward. We're going to write letters to voters Thursday we need you there. We need to see some faces on a zoom. Y'All's I can't wait for this. I'm so excited about it. What am I gonNA wear? This is not going to be in sweat probably where you big PAPI Jersey wearing dodgers jersey. So sign up for the party. Write some letters and if you can't be our party will make a sad but sign up to write some letters were Swing left is doing these like three or four times a week. So there's lots of opportunities for you to meet some volunteers from all over the country. And you know Do some good work from your living room. The other parties won't be as fun but I guess she wouldn't do them. They'll be productive but less fun. I like that also. Don't forget to tell your friends to subscribe to this very podcast. We should have a party happening every week via the podcast and we. We need your people to do that. So reach out to. How many people should they reach out to three three people? I like that number. Three is doable. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA reach out to three people today and remind them to subscribe to this. Berry podcast. I am too and remember that we are still building our capacity for November and Whatever that's GonNa look like whether you know we're back knocking on doors or if we're doing more digital organizing we need these tools to drive more people into action in this. Podcast is one of them so please help us. Continue to build this this tool. We have to drive people into this work. Let's get to the interview. Now with Ari. Berman are. Berman is a senior reporter at mother Jones covering voting rights. He's the author of give us the ballot. The modern struggle for voting rights in America. All right thanks so much for taking the time to talk to us. Hey Steve Reich and talk to you guys so I've been wanting to have you on to talk about voting rights for a long time since I started doing this podcast and this seems like I mean there's always a moment to talk about it but right now. Oh Yeah. Wisconsin and all the Tomfoolery. That didn't seem to work out for the GOP in Wisconsin. We have a lot to add to the conversation. So let's let's start there. What are your takeaways from? What happened in Wisconsin? The first take away which I think should be the enduring one which just how shameful it was to make people vote in such conditions the forced thousands of people to choose between a their ballot and their health and even though it seems like some voters were able to overcome that. That doesn't make it right in the first place and they're also we have to assume where thousands of that weren't able to overcome this fresh that were afraid to vote in person or couldn't get it after the ballot or didn't get their. Apps about in time for their upset was rejected now. Luckily it wasn't a close election because if this was an election was decided by five thousand votes we would have been paying very close attention to how many people were disenfranchised in whether that had some outcome on the margins but no matter what the outcome was in Wisconsin Tech example of how not to hold an election in the states already had a lot of problems holding elections by the way. This wasn't the first election in Wisconsin. That was marred by voter suppression. It was just the most dramatic wide because everyone was stuck at home. Pay attention to it right With and so it was just sort of singular political event where there weren't any other primaries. Nobody could leave their houses and so it became his really riveting. Dramatic Story But I've seen during a pandemic but in other occasions sort of dozens of many Wisconsin's on during my reporting on Otago writes this fight to delay verses. Hold the election on time. Last week went all the way to. The Supreme Court of the United States did their decisions surprise. You surprised me a little bit. Only in the sense stat. I thought the Supreme Court would make at least some accommodation for the fact. This was an extraordinary circumstance that voters were in in a pandemic and there was an unprecedented number of absentee ballot requests. So is going to be natural that some voters working to get their ballots in time because election clerks were swamped and I thought the courts would give voters more time to return their ballots. Because the seventh circuit the lower court was a conservative court and that court said it was fine to give voters extra week to send back their ballot so. I was a little surprised in that sense. I always expect the worst from the Supreme Court so in some cases. I'm not surprised but I was a little surprised. Given both the fact that they were overruling a lower conservative court and also the fact that it was extraordinary situation at unprecedented situation will Wisconsin was really the only state hold a primary in the middle of national pandemic and so I thought that justice would say you know Yeah No. We don't want to press a precedent of giving voters an extra week though return balanced meal like that. That's not letter of the law. But we're going to do it. Because of the extraordinary circumstances and what Ruth Bader Ginsburg said in her gazette was that basically the refusal to acknowledge reality to treat us like a normal situation. Sort of extraordinary situation was gonNA lead in a disenfranchisement of tens of thousands of people. And it's very worrisome precedent. Because I don't think in November election is going to be a normal election the way that we think about normal elections so that the Supreme Court aside from their ideology doesn't make any sort of adjustments for the reality that voters and election officials are facing on the ground. I think a lot of bill could just be disenfranchised by technicalities. Yes I think that's right and we've been talking about vote by mail and ou you as well We're trying to get in the next stimulus package. The Democrats are trying to get voter reform into the next package money for the states to implement vote by mail extending the period of elections. All that all that stuff that we need to do first of all. What does the precedent that the Supreme Court case just made How does that affect that? And what are our chances of actually getting that passed through the House right now? I don't know I don't know what president the the Supreme Court decision really will set other than the fact that if there's disputed If there's an election dispute between Republicans and Democrats the courts probably likely decide if Republicans. I think we already knew that But that's probably about the situation and the Supreme Court is going to act differently because of this extraordinary situation. I wouldn't necessarily assume I would assume that. Because of the mixture ours Egyptian ideology there are going to side with the Republicans more often than not. There's going to be more of these cases coming to the courts and before because there's GonNa be a much bigger fight around the rules of the election. Typically because Sony people can't leave their homes and normal rules don't apply so we don't know if there's going to be big voter. Registration drives in November. We don't know if there's any get big get out. The vote drives in November. We don't know if there's going to be sold to the polls in November all of these things and so voters seen a lot more assistance than they did in the past and the rules of how lecture conducted are more important than ever. Because there's really no adjustments to help voters get around this other than trying to mail everyone balance so it interesting. I think basically what happened in the first recovery. Bill Democrats are able to get four hundred million dollars Help states which I think was a good first step but everyone admitted was insufficient. And so now what Elizabeth Warren and others are saying. They need four billion dollars and they also need to put some actual Directives to the states sank the states Unique to adopt universal equal by mail. You need to adopt thirty days of early voting. We need to stop voter purging. Need to stop requiring. Id's being with absentee ballots. Things that are going to disenfranchise voters. Congress actually has the power to set those rules for federal elections now. I'm not saying it's going to happen. I don't think Mitch McConnell would agree to that. I don't think Donald Trump would agree to it but congress actually has the power. If I'm Democrats I start with a very very firm hand that we want all of this stuff and negotiate for that point of view as opposed to saying here's what we're willing to trade away Because if all congress does is give states four hundred million dollars to try to adopt vote by mail that's going to be that's going to be wildly inefficient hand in hand with that as we're as we're watching trump and some of the conservatives pushed back on on all of this I think that people are also hearing on their Yunos. Know Zoom happy hours and things like that their friends and family worrying that trump and the Republicans might try to delay the general election in November. Is that even a possibility? That is one thing I'm less concerned about because Donald Trump doesn't have the power to unilaterally postponed the election despite Ed de Mexico. His his idea that if you if you're the president you can do whatever you want. Which is sort of reminiscent of of his famous access. Hollywood tape were you know he basically said if you're famous you can do it But but only Congress can change the date of the election and so that would mean Nancy Pelosi in House Democrats would have to go along with it which means it would have to be a true national emergency where there was true. Bipartisan agreement to postpone the Election Day. Say for example we had another round of corona virus. It was even worse than this one and there was no attempt to be able to mail everyone balance and get everyone to vote by mail and it was just impossible for people to vote in curse. I think it'd be some something like that situation where they're moving back. I don't think we've donald trump unilaterally doing. That's that's that's of all the things that worry me. That's pretty much at the bottom of my list of concerns right. Well then. What's at the top of your concerns? Let's go to the dark place. The top of my concern is that we're going to have very unequal access to the ballot. That some states are GonNa take very affirmative decisions to vote by mail but other states are going to do almost nothing to help. People vote by mail or they're going to create the rules that some people are able to vote by mail but not others for example. Republicans are advocating that. They WanNa mail about everyone over sixty five why. I think that's great. I I would love to about everyone over sixty five out also like to bail out to everyone under sixty five though. That's the kind of saying that. Eat you start to see her in. Some of those rules are already in place when Republicans task voter ID laws in North Carolina and Texas. Saying you have to show come from your data vote. They exempted absentee ballots from that requirement. Because they knew that elderly a white voters were more likely to vote Republican and they didn't want to subject them to possible. This enfranchisement So that that's what. I'm concerned about concerned that there is going to be real unequal access to the ballot both between states and potentially within states et. I really hope that we don't learn the wrong lesson from Wisconsin which is at voter suppression. Doesn't matter just because your preferred candidate wins doesn't mean that people were disenfranchised and doesn't mean that it was wrong in the first place doesn't mean that it will set a dangerous precedent The other thing I'm concerned about is actually vote by mail was pretty bipartisan thing. For a long time I'm Republicans and Democrats have used it in pretty much. Equal numbers It's not good advantages. Is One party over. The other factor Paul begins have aggressively pushed by by mail in Florida and are probably better at doing all-male excellent probably actually favor begins over Democrats. But I'm concerned that Donald Trump is poisoning the well and he's tried to influence a Republican secretaries of state that are currently making good faith. Efforts states like Iowa Georgia to get ballots in the hands of voters. And send you those. Republican states need to back down For November and. I'm worried that even within the Republican Party going to become even more for the size than it was before and simple common sense things like. If you can't leave your house you should be able to vote by mail in that. That's the number one recommendation of the CDC is vote by mail independence. The second recommendation is early voting so that there is you can social distance appalled that we saw this like Milwaukee. Those are two things I think. Republicans are now going to strenuously avoid Trying to do. And that's what worries right now. Yeah I mean if it's coming from the scientists then they're probably not gonNA listen that that unfortunately seems to be how things are going but they they have he has been he has been forced to listen to the CDC in some in some cases. So I I note some. Election officials are listening. I know Republican elected officials in Ohio in Georgia an IRA. They had been acting very responsibly. Throughout this whole process it's been president and his allies in Congress that have been ones that have been really tried to voice. Well and I wonder like strategically everyone is going to be looking over. What happened in Wisconsin because this is our first sort of test case for voting in the midst of this pandemic as you mentioned Voting by MAIL DOES NOT NECESSARILY FAVOR. Democrats or Republicans. We really don't know but you know it's certainly favors democracy. It certainly favors enfranchising everyone to have access to the ballot Trump saying that if you had vote by mail then Republicans would never win another election. Now I don't believe that's true and perhaps now looking as dissect would happen in. Wisconsin. Maybe Republicans will start feeling the same way as well. I don't know why I mean the the idea that Republicans would never win a vote by mail. Election would come as a shock to Republicans in Utah Who every major erected office in vote largely pie mail. So I mean that would come as a surprise to Mitt Romney and the Republican governor and all the other Republican elected officials there it would come as surprises the Republican Secretary of state in Oregon and the Republican Secretary of state in Washington which are vote by mail states which have elected Republican saw levels of off. It would come surprised to Senator Cory Gardner of Colorado who was elected in twenty four fourteen of final election. It would come surprise around just in that particular case the honestly I mean the only reason from is opposing vote by mail is because Democrats are four There is no empirical evidence that if you make vote by Neil easier. It's going to help Democrats The the the data shows that in vote by mail states voter turnout is up about two to four percent but the partisan effect is not clear at all because there's a lot of elderly people that rely in vote by mail that are heavily. Republican constituents in so I think Donald Trump once again is making argument. That's holy based on emotion in fear and not. An all based on fats shocking. That's depressing. Can we talk about something slightly? More positive How how did you get into the voting rights? Beat and why did you stick with it? And become like the go-to expert on it. I honestly just kind of stumbled into a long time ago. It's it's been A decade now that I've been covering this I feel I feel all but basically In in twenty eleven after all of these key states flipped from blue to red places like Ohio and Pennsylvania in North Carolina in Wisconsin. I noticed that all of these Republican legislatures were very swiftly passing nearly identical laws to make it harder to vote. Things like strict voter. Id laws or cutting early voting or making it hard to register to vote and this is the thing at the time. That wasn't getting a lot of attention. It gets low understood now but it really wasn't getting a lot of attention and so I was at the nation at the time but I I. It's rolling stone and I had an August twenty eleven call the GOP war on voting. And that was really kind of my first major story about this. It was really the first major national magazine article to look at how this was a conservative strategy of by Republicans responding to almost election to try to change the electorate for their own benefit by changing. The country's voted and I thought it would really write one article and then I would just sort of go back to general politics but I mean more and more stuff started happening. That got me interested in in the topic. I mean this was a big issue. In twenty twelve will really serve accelerated. My interest was in two thousand thirteen when the supreme court heard a challenge to the voting rights act and then subsequently rule to weaken the voting rights act. I became very interested in history and funny rights. And that's what led me to write my book of the ballot but issued voting rights since the passage voting rights act. Because I realized there had been a lot of books written about what led to the passage of the Voting Rights Act. The school writes all of that but there have been a lot less written about what happened fifty years after and so I I sort of approach it as a journalist would also kind of as an amateur story and that got me a lot deeper into a topic to great book anyone listening. Please read it. I read it about a year year and a half ago and really loved it and learned so much. It's just you you're a great accessible writer for A subject that is just so pivotal to our democracy and not for nothing. My Dad worked in the Johnson administration he came on right after the voting rights act was passed. He wasn't there the whole time but allow what did he do there. He was counsel to President Johnson. A lot of stuff happened in the Johnson administration. Amazing to see I mean both obviously the Bazzi at Phnom. But I think more people are looking at all the incredible amount of stock to with the Voting Rights Act in regression active of ninety sixty five and the fair housing act and And Medicaid. I mean it's just sort of unbelievable. How much stuff was was passed in such a short period of time. He did a lot of great stuff and was burt colorful character in. My Dad's got some great stories. But that's we're not so it's a little bit of an unnerving time for anyone who's who's paying attention even for people who are not paying attention to be honest Feels like our elections have have never been more uncertain. And we're and we're heading into a pretty big one. Is there anything that gives you? Hope as we look ahead to November. I guess what I'm Hoping. Is that what happened in Wisconsin? It'll be a wakeup call about what not to do. And also a testament to voters ability to overcome obstacles that are put in their way and that the focus on the voting system will lead the voting system to become better and more accessible. And if what comes out of this is that more people are able to vote by mail and more people are given. An opportunity cast a ballot. And there's more time for people to vote in person and there's more early voting and there's more polling sites and we're more careful about how ballots are counted. And all of that will be good faith. And so it's very well possible that that that all of the attention on the deficiencies in our electoral system will lead us to create an electoral system. That works better for voters that that. That is my hope But I think my worries that we're running out of time to do this and that just like with the Democrat large not only do we have a lack of leadership at the federal level. We have very negative leadership. The federal level making it harder not easier to overcome these barriers. I really think the Congress needs to get were involved here I think they have a critical role. Play that I also think that voters need to interact with their local Legislators with her vocal secretaries of state and see what they're doing because I think governors secretaries of state are going to have an enormous amount of power during this process to shape election laws. And I think you're going to do things that maybe they wouldn't have been able to do in years past. We've already seen for example governors take executive orders to say. I'm going to change. The rules of absentee ballots are going to change the way voters get their ballots. And I think it's I think it's hard and we're seeing that stuff in the primary there's also less at stake in the primaries. The primaries are basically over right now and so actually are pretty much effectively over People are still voting. But we we know that Joe Biden is the Democratic nominee and so I think the question is can momentum go forward to November Are things going to break down among the usual parceled lines or demand real change? That real enduring are bipartisan solutions. Come out that's what I'm hopeful about. Have you heard of a as a drop dead point in time where we're not going to be able to do a huge shift for November stay? I think it'll depend on the state and how far along the state is I mean people are saying the next few months are going to be critical Because you in a lot of places you early voting starts Yup sometimes sometimes Start Forty five days before election writing in a lot of states voter registrations gonNA edge a thirty days before the election. That's that's the legal cutoff for voter registration. You can end voter-registration thirty days before an election which I think is completely insane requirement. That should the West You can do that and so I think the fall is too late to make major changes and the other thing is just from a perspective of voter what happened. Wisconsin is extremely confusing for voters. Where one cormick changes in another court changes those changes and then the legislature and the governor are fighting over things that that is a recipe for voter confusing voter disenfranchisement and so. I hope that the rules get set ahead of time. So that if there are legal battles those legal battles can be worked out can have certainty but with the law is. If it's a bad law at least people know what the law is so they can try to maneuver route if you have no idea what the law is then. You can't try to come it. That was one of the problems of in Wisconsin and we clearly saw it. Wisconsin trying to do everything the week before and so I would say this from now until I would say over. The summer are going to be in a critical times. Where states are going to move in a serious way to do in vote by mail. Which is the recommendation that everyone says of? They're going to have to scale up dramatically because Like in Wisconsin. For example. Only five percent of people voted by mail or twenty sixteen now. The primary showed that a lot more people can vote by mail. But you're GONNA have dramatically higher turnout in Wisconsin. I think I saw like voter. Turnout was something like thirty. Four percent of people voted. We are going to have seventy to seventy five percent turnout in in In November you're going to have probably more than double the voter turnout in November that you had now which is why don't they can can extrapolate too many lessons from this. Wisconsin Election. Because there's going to be such dramatically. Larger electorate come the fall. So we'll call. Our governors will call our Secretaries of state anyone who gets their paws on elections and let them know that we want the CDC recommendations and And that's a good call to action for everyone listening to this and also you know it. It does. Boil down to turnout at the end of the day. Whatever the rules are however they're trying to disenfranchise and cheat which they are constantly doing when we show up. We win and You talked earlier about. We don't know what our outreach is going to be like if there's GonNa be souls to the polls if we're going to be able to campus if we're going to be able to do the traditional organizing that we do around elections but We're going to be reaching out to voters and we're going to be making our case and So neat ever went. Help us do that so I will say I mean if people hoping the situation will be a lot better people will be able to leave their homes if they can't leave their homes. That's also an organizing opportunity because you know everybody is hope so you should be able to reach so. I hope everyone's thinking about that too. That if you do traditional Geo TV in terms of knocking on doors Can you call people up? Can you tax people? You know you're more likely to reach that you were. They might even be more likely to talk to you because they're stuck at home with nobody talk you so many. This pandemic is terrible is does present a different way toward that if people are. Smart. They're going to try to take advantage of and hopefully get up. Not Now yeah. Phone banking has been Has Been a lot more fun than it usually is Just because people are answering their phones and we can also do some community service and make sure that people are okay and have resources that they need connected to the phone banking. We could go on and on talking about this I encourage everyone to read your book. Give us the ballot. The modern struggle for voting rights in America Follow what your Twitter Handle Ashaari Berg at Arbor easy? Reo on twitter. This is such a great conversation and and really helpful and hopeful you so much. Thank you so much guys. Keep up the good work Before we go. There is a article written by Rebecca solnit in the Guardian called. The impossible has already happened. What Corona virus can teach us about hope and this was brought to my attention by email. Chain called small victories Antoine to read an excerpt for people from Rebecca sonnets piece. The outcome of disasters is not for ordained. It's a conflict one that takes place while things that were frozen solid in locked up have become open in fluid. Full of both the best and worst possibilities. We're both becalmed. And in a state of profound change ordinary life before the pandemic was already a catastrophe of desperation and exclusion for too many human beings in environmental and climate catastrophe and obscenity of inequality. It is too soon to know what will emerge from this emergency but not too soon to start looking for chances to help decided. Abra sharing that. I think it's so important to Rian share messages of hope and small. Victories is a as a great email to subscribe to ban. Thank you for joining us today. And thank you for stepping up and taking action. This is how we win. We win when we all get involved and we want to hear from you. Let us know how you're staying busy during the corona Venus Pandemic? Send us a message about what brings you hope tweet to us at Louis. Boy Steve an APP Araya underscore craven or email us at podcast at swing left dot org. Thank you to our friends at dinner. 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NPR News: 01-22-2020 12AM ET

NPR News Now

04:39 min | 9 months ago

NPR News: 01-22-2020 12AM ET

"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Shay Stevens the. US Senate is now debating seventh amendment to the resolution on how to conduct the impeachment pitchman trial of president trump. Six other proposals calling for documents and witness testimony have been voted down along strict party lines as NPR's Brockton booker reports. Republican lawmakers are blocking democratic efforts to allow more evidence in the trial. Senate Majority Leader Mitch. McConnell is relaxing to propose pace of the impeachment trial prosecution and defense teams will get an additional day to deliver opening arguments and evidence gathered in house inquiry will now be automatically included in the Senate's it's record. These moves make it more likely resolution setting the parameters for the impeachment. Trial will win broad support. That's likely not enough for Sinn. Democrats Democrats Minority Leader Chuck. Schumer is offering a series of amendments seeking to introduce additional evidence in an effort to bolster the charges against president trump. All amendments are expected to fail braxton booker NPR news the Capitol Democratic presidential hopeful. Michael Bloomberg is launching a new AD campaign calling for the Senate to remove President Trump from office. The AD will run in twenty seven states including several jurisdictions with vulnerable Republican senators and a handful that will hold march third primaries. He's already spent more than two hundred million dollars of his own money on his campaign. Bloomberg is skipping early voting states and focusing his efforts it's on contests in delegate rich states with primaries after Super Tuesday. The Wisconsin Supreme Court has again refused to block a court ruling that temporarily blocked the state from removing up to two hundred. Nine thousand names from the states voter rolls the corporate responding to law firms request to have a lower court ruling on the matter madder blocked the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirms the first use case of the corona virus and a patient whose isolated rated at a hospital near Seattle. The patient recently visited Wuhan China where the disease was recently discovered. Osam Whitehead from member station W. A. B. Reports reports health officials say they will now begin screenings for Corona virus at airports in Chicago and Atlanta the Centers for Disease Control and prevention started screening screening passengers on direct or connecting flights from Wuhan China last week Mardi Citron is with the CDC. He says the agency is now adopting a full full on coverage strategy which means adding additional airports and instructing on Sunday the Department of Homeland Security the Department of Transportation to redirect indirect all the Traffic airports that have screening officials at Hartsfield Jackson International in Atlanta say. The airport has to direct flights to Asia one to Shanghai. Hi China the other two Seoul South Korea for NPR news. I'm Sam Whitehead in Atlanta this is NPR news. A federal judge in Boston says a deportation case involving northeastern university student from Iran is moot because the twenty four year old has already gone one Shahani. Ghani was detained by customs officials. Monday after arriving in the US with a valid student visa he was sent home without a hearing. Despite a court order the outcome of the case could have broad implications for other foreign nationals. Who are studying in the US? Lebanon has installed a new government. Some four months after protesters was forced the resignation of its prime minister from Beirut NPR's Deborah Amos reports that the new cabinet line-up tackle Lebanon's worst economic crisis in in decades. The new prime minister sixty year old. Hassan Diab is a university professor. His cabinet is made up. The specialists technocrats Diop said none of of them would stand for elections to focus on the economic crisis for the first time a woman was named as his deputy. Da said the new cabinet fulfilled the demands of the protesters but but that seems unlikely. Protesters have called for sweeping reforms. These cabinet ministers are backed by traditional political parties the deal finalized when Hezbollah alop a powerful political and militant organization agreed on the names with our allies. Political parties aligned with the West and Saudi Arabia are now outside the government and opposition Deborah Amos. NPR News Beirut on Wall Street stocks close lower with the Dow Jones industrials falling a hundred and fifty two points. The Nasdaq lost eighteen on. Oh nation market shares are mostly higher but trading lower in Shanghai. I'm Shay Stevens N._P._R.. News in Washington.

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NPR News: 04-07-2020 10AM ET

NPR News Now

04:39 min | 6 months ago

NPR News: 04-07-2020 10AM ET

"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Korva Coleman. Stocks opened higher this morning adding to big gains on Monday. Npr's Scott horsely reports. The Dow Jones industrial average jumped more than seven hundred points in the first few minutes of trading stock investors continue to rally encouraged by signs from Europe that the growth in Cova nineteen cases. There may be slowing infections in this country. Continue to multiply though experts. Say there are signs that aggressive. Social distancing measures are having an effect White House economic adviser. Larry cudlow express some optimism? This morning about re-opening shuttered parts of the economy in forty eight weeks the Dow jump more than three percent the opening bell while the broader s and p five hundred index was also up sharply on Monday indexes soared more than seven percent with the Dow climbing nearly seven and three quarters percent Scott horsely. Npr News Washington. More than three hundred sixty. Eight thousand people have contracted the corona virus in the United States. That's according to researchers from Johns Hopkins University. Nearly eleven thousand people here have died nearly a third of the. Us deaths are in New York City alone. There are clusters of cases in the areas of Detroit into Orleans as well as in New Jersey. Wisconsin's election today is back on just hours after governor. Tony Evers issued an executive order to stop it Wisconsin. Public radio's Laurel White reports. The governor said the elections should not go forward as cases of Corona virus spreading his state just hours after the governor issued his order delaying the election the Wisconsin Supreme Court reinstated it. The court ruled. The governor doesn't have the power to stop the election from proceeding as scheduled Iverson. A Democrat said. The election couldn't be safely and effectively administered amid the corona virus pandemic but the Republican controlled state legislature immediately appealed his order to the State Supreme Court. The court ruling split along party lines with conservative justices ruling in favor of striking down ears order and liberal justices against GOP. Lawmakers have opposed delaying the election. For weeks saying it would lead to vacancies and hundreds of local offices across the state for NPR news. I'm laurel wait in Madison Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Ave has issued a state of Emergency Declaration for several Japanese prefectures. Npr's Anthony Kuhn reports that includes the capital. Tokyo Japan has delayed the explosive growth of case numbers so far but also they haven't tested a lot but now daily new case numbers in Tokyo have reached around. One hundred and experts are warning that some city hospitals are already full up and they may soon be overwhelmed. Critics are saying this. Emergency should have been declared a couple of weeks ago. Npr's Anthony Kuhn reporting on Wall Street. The Dow Jones Industrial Average is up eight hundred. Two points or more than three and a half percent. Nasdaq is up. One hundred eighty nine points or more than two percent. You're listening to. Npr The acting secretary of the Navy is apologizing for bashing the former captain of the aircraft carrier the USS Theodore Roosevelt. Acting Secretary Thomas Mode League regrets calling Captain Brent Cruiser too naive or too stupid to command. Crozier had tried to warn the navy that the corona virus was spreading aboard his ship instead. Crozier was relieved of command. Israel is imposing a nationwide lockdown to prevent the spread of the corona virus during the Jewish holiday of Passover. Npr's Daniel Estrin reports from Jerusalem. Israelis are already under stay at home. Orders with many exceptions now restrictions tightened officials announced that for the next couple of days. Israelis will mostly be prohibited from leaving their towns and cities residents of Jerusalem must not leave their neighborhoods and all public transportation and international. Flights will be halted. This is to prevent gatherings for Passover which begins Wednesday night. Israeli are ordered to celebrate it home alone. The restrictions will not apply in predominantly non-jewish areas. Israel has more than seven thousand confirmed virus cases in at least fifty nine people have died officials attributed the outbreak two gatherings on the Jewish Carnival holiday last month. They don't want the same to happen on. Passover Daniel Estrin. Npr News Jerusalem British Prime Minister Boris Johnson remains in stable condition in an intensive care unit in London. He's still sick with the corona virus. A spokesman for the prime minister says he's been getting oxygen but has not been put on a ventilator. Britain remains in lockdown to slow the spread of the pandemic. I'm KORVA COLEMAN NPR news.

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Hard Factor 5/14: What's Reopening and What Does it Cost? Manafort Goes Home and Space Junk Crashes to the Earth

Hard Factor

45:46 min | 5 months ago

Hard Factor 5/14: What's Reopening and What Does it Cost? Manafort Goes Home and Space Junk Crashes to the Earth

"Would it is Joe Man Randy savage? This factor in there is no one. Does it better now? But he does it. Better Repeat Myself. Go ahead tell me something right down. Welcome to another episode of Art Factor by the Barstool News Network. It's Thursday may fourteenth twenty twenty all kinds of crazy stories today reopening drama everywhere. Store prices gouged. Paul Manafort's out of jail. Ostriches on beware space junk all kinds of crazy shit so pack gone. Yeah Hell Yeah by the way. I WANNA point out following us on Youtube. You can see mark's new psychedelic setup really enjoying it. It's like he's had an Iguana Bar Tahiti but he's not he's Safely practicing social distance to and West has got like new HD look going to field so if you WANNA see west his face and focus and everything else out of focus. I'm sure there's some people out there. I look and having the setup immaculate as always just don't worry about bless less looking good looking good guys to reopen to reopen. That is the question. Let's get into it yesterday. The Wisconsin Supreme Court overturned the state safer at home orders and mandated that all future statewide restrictions Dealing with the crow virus must be approved by legislatures rulemaking committee The decision is right in line with the state's motto which also happens to be the laziest by far allstate mottos. It's just the word forward. That's it simple. That's I kind of appreciate it a little bit full. I feel like it's half done. I feel like that's it. That's all you need to do. All you gotta do forward backwards forward. I would have preferred onward. Honored is kind of like two words but afford also upward also more. Yeah kind of like to four hundred makes sense. You Walk Forward. You go forward in time. Everything is forward you over there. Okasan the forward unless you unless you're backing out your driveway. Yes then you're moving forward. Great Point Mark Myopia. You're still moving forward with your day. Yes that is true. Because you're going somewhere in your car forward this coma. Yep that is true. If you're still moves forward fund you bring them Israel China's an not a thing. It's the flow. Yeah exactly yeah. A rabbit hole. Not The point guys. The the four three decision was met with a ton of controversial. But the best part of this whole thing regardless of which side you're on the Internet reaction of people continuing to Roast Wisconsin Supreme Court Judge Rebecca Bradley who compared the state stay at home orders to the internment of Japanese Americans during World War. Two last week. I don't know extreme probably very similar. Yes very similar and Frederick home. Douglas says Dear Wisconsin Justice Rebecca Bradley America's internment of Japanese Americans during World War. Two was literally a you. Japanese cannot stay at home order which I thought was correct. It's as in go into the camps order. That ain't there. There's an instance where there's no more forward when you get sent to an internment camp. Yeah you're on pause there. You're good you're good. Your pause would be a terrible terrible state motto. As of Wednesday Wisconsin has more than ten thousand nine hundred and two confirmed cases of covert and four hundred twenty deaths according to Department of Health Services. La County Large County in California issued a new public health order on Wednesday. Clarifying their Tuesday statement that. They're stay at home order with last at least three more months. This new modification order specifies different businesses three month right. Yeah a lot. They should change their motto to give up. How do you even handle that and months? What do you do today today? You think about that gun you bought for you. Pick up a new drug habit at that point. That's start trying some things at best and La. I feel I feel bad for Buddha. He had just moved to La like Oh. Yeah that's right A-. What do you feel bad for Buddha? Benny Smoking weed making like I know. He's I know he's enjoying his his flowers. But I'm saying like you know like dude. You're locked down for three more months down through through July. Which till August is. That's not a lot by guys. If you don't know Buddha's he's a former of employees great director and camera person. He Shot High Times Cannabis Cup stuff and he's making great arts. Check them out and they man. Yeah he's out painting in the lockdown in La but now he's got three more months to paint. Hey Man is going to be going to be good for her. I think it's APP and we guys this. This Modified order kind of outlined. What could open different businesses specifically it examined Eli's beaches but guys this modification the order unlike its predecessor has literally no expiration date. The three months is just estimation if you're wondering what you can and can't do on the beaches of La. You've come to the right place because I'M GONNA run it down for you real quick. You may engage in ocean activities like surfing swimming or aqua dumps. You may engage in active recreation or exercise such as walking jogging or cross fit. That's it that's all you can do what you can't do in the class. Well what else? What else are you GonNa do at the Beach Sunbathe? That's that's on. The list can't do that. Y'All sunbathe can hang out what what. I'm doing yoga. No Easy Yoga. GotTa be moving moving forward. Be By yourself working out. I'm planking plans. Not Okay. It's not acceptable. Sitting on the beach along on sand off limits picnicking use of coolers are beach umbrellas off limits and under no circumstances guys whatsoever beach volleyball not allowed quick side note on l. a. the Trojans Athletic Director Answer the rumors on twitter about their football home. Opener saying quote. Uc has every intention of playing our game against Alabama own twelve. We shall see how that plays out. We'll say house all out. I don't have much faith in it in it actually happening. You've probably played in Alabama either way on Tuesday Dr Fouled. She gave a statement members of the Senate saying that. Quote even at Top. Speed or at the top speed. We're going. We don't see a vaccine playing in the ability of individuals to get back to school this term rand. Paul did not like this and went out fat. She real hard saying that found. She was not the end. All be all to which Roger Responded. I never said I was rand. Paul also hilariously tested positive for Cova back in March and made his line of questioning specifically about whether or not people that have have had covert and recovered are now. He was really interested in that. You would be. Yeah He. He's a survivor. So I guess he feels the right to just sort of you know fire off on FAO Chief. Whenever he feels like little ridiculous marquee brought this point up earlier fouled she is just doctor is not an economist and he said so much pissed foul chief his job as length the top infectious disease doctor in America's to comment on whether the disease is under control or not. It's not to comment on. When we should open up the economy you can get the top economist in the fucking. Us have him say. Hey we need open up the economy and then you can make a decision based on that given Faucher Shit for not saying. Open this instance. He didn't say anything at all. He said you're not GonNa have vaccine by doing his job if he was lying about the disease. The it's not as fucking decision factious. Disease Doctors May name out your mouth and Wilson from my point of this segment on Wednesday. There was a big Hullabaloo Because trump came out The media came out saying trump disagrees with foul cheese recommendations on whether or not we should open schools or not saying quote to me. It's not acceptable answer especially when it comes to. Our schools hilarious part is found. She never made any sort of statement whatsoever whether or not schools should open. Not He just said. We will not have a vaccine. That's all he said. We don't own schools in the fall. Skirmish the VAD. Well trump went on in that. Same Response Pat Where? He said he expects that schools will be open with elderly in staying home. Right it was just need to or whatever that the the press. Who's asking the question? What the fuck she had said. Trump didn't know what the fuck you'd said and now it's big thing. Stoop super dumb. You leave Dr Heartthrob Romance. I will grow on me. That's okay we were talking about before we started. I'm loving the online taekwondo classes but I need actual school and day daycare. Basically to reopen your next context there west. You're not taking online. Taekwondo your ten year old. Yes so you don't have to drive the high quantitative. Why so. Why do you need the? What do you need the other services for because it's becoming just to get him out of the fucking house for school? He's one of two hundred million parents. That are losing their minds because their kids kids are home all day. You WanNA point one thing out there west you're paying for these taekwondo classes online. Yes it's it's youtube. It's pretty much yeah. I know it's Youtube. He's still gets stripes though. That's all that matters for the belts. Pat That's alive cam of the martial art also technically by the belts against goes against code or very qualified. Did it can by the belts could by the belts it would be code against the Taekwondo Code. He by by the belts for the kids. You know they're very rational teaching them the opposite life lesson. Taekwondo exactly spells supplies store. Taekwondo supplies killed. You can look to never is not designed to actually ever be used. The belt is current. I talked to the head of the Taekwondo Foundation and he said if you take ten classes. It's just as good as your belt. You can even make a piece of paper and everything. I'm sure that's all you get buy online. Few people send my way and that move. But will you guys get into you guys chip in on my birthday? Maybe get a Republican diploma me. It's of course it's GONNA get your black belt for your birthday this year. Why can't we get you a certified Black Bell? We'll black belts talk with your all right. Let's move on guys with the corona virus. We've all seen prices drop in many places vacation flights and hotels or cheapest faulk right now. It's a great time to do it. Road trip gas is the lowest. It's been since I can remember. I think I paid like one thirty nine the other day. Fantastic but there's one place that is absolutely bending you over right now when it comes to prices and that is the grocery store prices have not increased like this two point six percent To be exact in April since February of nineteen seventy four so prices are rising every month. I mean gouging. I noticed it too. I wasn't got some. She said I was like holy. Fuck it very expensive. They got you by the shoreline curlers. Don't right so open restaurants back? I'm going to start eating restaurants. Those prices have gone up. They were GONNA go out there getting fucked right now. I heard a story about Essentially GRUB and all these delivery deals. They're not part of the restaurant. Business model these are trying to stay alive desperately. And they're giving thirty percent of their margin to grab Hubbard. You've or whatever I'll drive straight to the place. Pick it up nope you gotTA drive yourself and go pick it up right. So let's see. Let's look at some prices. So the prices of meats poultry. Fish eggs rose four point. Three percent fruits and vegetables climbed one point. Five serials and baked goods climbed two point nine percent. Ma Makes Perfect Sense. Courting the article. I read restaurants beer. Don't say boom don't say boost. I don't I haven't seen The prices of at least the polls go up No in fact I think the price of beer would actually maybe go down because they were having to get rid of. Get RID OF STUFF. Right on in mass. I don't think the price of years gone up. Maybe if and then the rest of America's body you'll be interested me fine because people are consuming more of it They'll be fine. You know. Usually you take it out of context. Gas Beer prices are down. Whoa it's fine. Everything's fine right. Yeah so I guess. The article restaurants shutdown people have to cook more at home. Demand GOES UP PRICE GOES UP. We've also covered in great detail disruption the viruses having on the The meat packing plants the overall meat supply chain. People ARE GETTING SICK. Not as much meat can be packed and produced. The demand is high supply down. That's a recipe for some expensive stakes. You know what I mean so much meat going pack so much meat with a few few few guys so here are the things you should avoid eating because they shot up in cost eggs up sixteen percent not worth it right now. This one's fucked up. Price at donuts rose five percent. Cookies are also at five percent. And Sodas are up four point five percents like they're trying to make me broke and you know ruined my breakfast. Also hotdogs. Cost rose five point seven percent. Chicken rose five point eight percent. Everything is up. It's fucked out there. According to all the popular shit that people like is it makes sense. Yeah Mac and cheese. Aaron everything's up. So here's here's what you should eat. So the prices of Ham fell by one point seven percent breakfast sausages down point. Three percent butter was down one point. Three prepared salads fell by three point. Six cupcakes were down two point. Three and tomatoes fell by one point four percent. So that's that should be your diet from now on. No one's even prepared salads pro tip for you guys actually increased by uptake. Intake prepared salads. Haven't noticed but I'll live chicken fifteen bucks and that thing will lay you a dozen eggs every week so just protect their thinking outside the box. Okay there's only pen for it. Yeah no I mean you got a leash county. Better start bonding. Some live chickens yup absolutely and maybe well you got time on your hands. You'RE GONNA be around the homestead for awhile be able to set up some some roosts. Yep that's true. Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort was released to home confinement confinement amid crossovers concerns. He was found guilty of tax fraud and conspiracy in two thousand nineteen from dealings in Ukraine and he was not scheduled for release until Twenty Twenty Four. So get on twenty twenty. It's pretty good deal. Manafort is now at home confinement probably in a giant home. I mean. We're all at home confinement so probably this isn't even really a punishment right like we're all like L. lockdown life. He's one he's one of us now. Metaphor also look to be in decent shape and spirits. And he's going home to a closet philosopher so I get it. I mean yeah. He looked like he's doing better now than before. He just took like a little break and then he is out seventy five percent early. Michael is his great for him and less unless he hates his wife. That right would you rather be in jail than an awkward home. Situation really can be like a prison. We'll have to really hate his wife. Michael Cohen Trump's former lawyer was notified last month that he would be released to home confinement as well. Cohen was convicted on multiple charges including tax evasion. The of prisons though decided to rescind his home confinement on May first one day after he was warned by the trump administration or like a lawyer associated with trump administration to think again before writing the tell all book on trump. He was threatening to right. Oh yes this genius rolled on trump and saying like a canary after he got pinched and then right as he was about to be sent home early on home confinement brags about how he was gonNA write a best selling. Tell all not immediately. Just put him back in jail. He's going to. He's staying in jail for his full sentence through through twenty twenty one. These are actually the son of SAM law which prevents criminals making money off their crimes in the form of writings and movies. There's GonNa be a writing on prison. Napkins caffeine threatening to commit a crime. Another crime for Cohen. It is undeniably though a good time to be one of those Mueller report casualties guys as long as you don't role as hard as Cohen else's loving Flynn's on the path to exoneration right. There's like being held up a little bit but it looks like he's going to get exonerated. Manafort released after only serving a quarter of a sentence. Roger Stone who was sentenced to three years in jail back in February for witness tampering lying to investigators and a few other things is still not even in jail. It looks went back in February. You never what it looks like. They're waiting word on deferment to a retrial. So no need to turn himself in just yet. He's chilling trump called what happened to Roger Stone. A miscarriage of justice and bill bar asked for a lesser sentence or stone. So something tells me. The Rolling Stone won't be spending many days in jail home confinement. All around FELLAS. Yeah Wow yeah. Bars and out deals like restaurants during quarantine. I mean like we said this is the swing of the pendulum from the Miller. Report at impeachment to the opposite of that those that were loyal will reap the rewards for the upswing Pat. You know I mean it's just obvious and then this this stuff is just there's no there's no stopping it stayed loyal. This is this is territory. This is terrible if it gets written in the history books because I can think of two instances where things like. This have happened one. Is this the Hurricane Katrina like we had a buddy that was facing like five years in jail? Yeah you got a lot of commute cases. Yeah right right but But like you know there's going to be kids out there thinking it'll work out. Look at these guys. Yeah you mean people are GonNa commit crimes. Yes I'm saying. Well you get away with the courts when they're not as active or they don't have as many spots in jail. You know the but the flip side of that is if you don't get home confinement you're stuck in jail with the screwed is true so let's amble not good stay out of jail in the first place everybody all right. Let's talk about some space junk. China launched the Long March Five B rocket on May fifth as part of an uncrowded crude test flight of a new capsule. And what they're doing is they're copying the SPACEX dragon capsule making their own. It looks identical. Calm yeah well you know. Let's say China's stealing our technology thing anyhow. This thing came back down on Monday. When a twenty ton piece of over directly over New York City and Los Angeles before it crashed into the earth in the Atlantic Ocean off the west coast of Africa so a scattered pieces from the actual racket itself. All over the Ivory Coast. But nobody's been hurt and like the big twenty one engine rocket piece like fell in the ocean but no one had any fucking clue though where it was going to land. Apparently well no you don't so when these things it's it's like it's the let's hear it's the largest object in nearly three decades to plunge to Earth unexpectedly. What happens is it comes through the end of the atmosphere. And then it's just like a free for all where the fuck is gonNA landed like maybe spins around the globe. The biggest game winco right right. What do what do you think you'd get if you get if you get taken out or you know one of your family members gets taken out by one of these pieces from China Phone. Call back now. How how precedent? Nobody's died from space junk before so it's unprecedented. Bet You all pretty good settlement. That leads I mean I bet someone has died from space junk so you sign a bill today. Saying get twenty million dollars was say that nobody's divers space camp vouchers. H- how many. How many hard factor? Podcasts twenty thousand tons twenty tonnes twenty censored twenty twenty it. It'd be I think we're about a ton rutan half a tonne where you have to do. Forty forty dollars wrapped. Okay as a lot of right in fact PAT. I was going to. That's why I was headed to next. Us Space Force Eighteenth Space Control Squadron. Shout space for us. They're doing some force. They tracked the space junk in the re entries from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California and they tracked it as it zoomed. Pass New York City and L. A. Like we talked about before but it wouldn't be that big of an impact. Pat One building in a city by this thing is what they say one floor of a building even so according to one scientist how to space for us to have their first job. I mean well. They've been doing some stuff I think. They launched something like we we covered. There's they're getting in the mix based on the recent documentaries released on Net flicks force to be busy busy boys and girls. I think your based on those they may have already been expanding. Operations will sit had hangar. One thing that will completely unbelievable but shit a little bit of Overtime Space Force was. This isn't the first time parts of a Chinese rocket of fallen overpopulated. Areas in both March and November parts of rockets crashed within mainland China from nearby launch site. So they're just raining down on everybody themselves us. Whatever anyone having a worse stretch than China right now like when the disease. I don't know where the Asian Hornets came from the murder. Hornets but China's like half of Asia. Mark this isn't even the Jewish stretches. Bro Yeah I mean. It's a bad one this year anyways. But you know who's your twenty twenty is all of ours and you the listener because we are all gambling on the news at predicted dot org slash Promo Slash hard factor twenty to get your first twenty bucks matched in the stock market of politics. And I got a new market. I got my eye on right now. Okay we'll Barack Obama face charges before November third rating out of market. 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Movie freaks out there Little movie premiered at Berlin Film Festival back in March called the trouble with being born. It's a classic story from an Austrian born filmmaker and German production. You know man has daughter. Man Loses daughter at ten years. Old Man replace his loss daughter a decade later with ten-year-old Android Man Fox ten-year-old Andrew Daughter it was a replacement of his dead daughter and The android looks exactly like her on purpose and is named after her so fucking done gust yet in throughout the film The robot ten-year-old android alley calls the male middle aged lead daddy in one particular disturbing song. Come on what the robots calls him daddy and then we'll because it's her father third It's program to Roll Daddy. Daddy talks real. Yeah by real girl. yeah In one particular disturbing scene Ellie the android is lying naked on the counter. Has Her father removes her vagina and tongue for cleaning. I guess are dishwasher safe when you sperm up your android daughters John and you gotta clean it right. Country made this well. Germany made it the director. The female Austria look guys. We've dealt with taboo subjects before incentive luck directors and female save made a few films Germany. This is the most taboo for sure. The work of a man now. No no he would be in jail. He'd be arrested. Look is nine thousand. Six this honestly. This is worse than Nazi propaganda. Now while you shouldn't say that it's up there. It GETS WORSE AIR I. It's the worst sense. Here's the problem with the guys. Here's the big problem I should. I take that back entirely completely completely anti Nazi. But this is this takes it to the level. I mean it's it's unthinkable. Hold on let's let's explore this guys. Look people are people are weird? You know there's Weird Taboo Shit There's we're porn You know there are people that are fucking pedophile is. There are people that aren't active. Pedals HAS ALL WEIRD. Shit an art look arts of format where you fucking can explore. That Shit. Problem is problems. Send Human Centipede look like Mary poppins problem. Pedophilia province guys instead of incest. Getting a getting a twenty year old actress to play the lead role of Eliot. Which is the initial plan. They got an actual ten year. Old Girl to that had yes. So apparently the Sandra Wallner. The director decided to remove some of the more explicit sex scenes from the film and at that point. She's like you know what this is getting kind of tame and maybe appropriate for an actual ten year old to play the ten year old. But Hey bad news for you. Real hardcore pedophile purists. Out there all the child sex scenes or CGI so sorry you're but although there CGI THERE CGI for the ten year old to be completely nude and having six actual ten-year-old that they cast for the part who packed up until five seconds who most likely will re washed the movie she started. We'll be naked. How much how much do you think that? They may have thought that they might sell a few more copies or download. The sting from fucking fucking percent west becomes fucking pornographic a colt. This is a no one's going to fucking admit to watching this gut tim movie now. This is going on a premier in Berlin. His top five film festival in the world. It played in March probably pay more. We didn't have any probably have found distribution but usually takes like six months at least for film to get distributed after Lionsgate presents the pedophile. Somebody destroy this movie by destroy. It'll be it'll be banned in every country and never lets go royal guys of the actress. Tenure he's also. This one is going to by the Tang album for. Yeah well in copy entering. It's fucked up It is it is called Doesn't fucking matter. Don't go see tripping if you bump into someone that has a hard copy of this portrait purchased man a shirt. Yeah that's how much they loved it. Check their basement All Right Dan. Rise. That's disgusting guys. We all know you know I love. I love most dogs. I have three in my house right now. They are part of my part of my family. I love him. I love my kill more than my dogs not been close but I do like them more than most humans. I'm confident they would never turn on me. Not In a million years. I think most dog owners feel the same way about their own pet. They're they're loyal and would never turn on him you. Don't you feel like my dog right? Now is definitely loyal to my wife. You think you could turn on you. Oh for sure but there's no way no way it can hurt me. Dog was just nationally. If you didn't share your dog there's no it's when it's but you are right because your dog is close to your wife as a person's reassure i. I'm definitely the the the lowest on total. Well we'll this this this next lady Who thought maybe that her dog was going to be loyal Be Dog going to give her kisses to her face. Ramsay Bolton story that Yeah well she had a French bulldog and I was going to say wills wills dog is about the size of this dog the same exact size. This woman's French bulldog fucking mauled to death. This woman for yourself. How does she how safety she man twenty? Yeah well I mean speculation. I think maybe she was hammered. Should really high. There was a French this from France French bulldog they get the males can be at twenty eight pounds. So they're not that big so this is fucked up though so I mean I've never seen one that big apparently get that big you know. I'm I'm a thousand percent confident. Could take on at least five think. They're pretty thick so they don't have to be that big to be to be heavy right away. How come I'm not wishing this upon them? I'm just making a statement. How COME DOMESTIC CATS KEEP GETTING COVE? Nineteen but French and American bulldogs haven't gotten covert nineteen with the respiratory problems. In fact there's driving. They're killing people. They just they're they're they're doing. The unthinkable full women before going obligating tasks how good. How disabled was this woman? This woman not disabled it all patch. She had a boyfriend. I'll get to the fucked up story so what happened is apparently this. Frenchie that killed. This woman was no normal dog. It had previously been used in fighting and was rescued. Rescue animal rescue that one month. Prior to this fatal attack had attacked the woman's boyfriend. The boyfriend said Fuck. This dog returned it to the shelter. The woman went back for the dog. Picked it up brought it back home and then it killed her man. How can a fresh bulldog even kill somebody to get your neck or something? I think it might have gotten like an artery in her arm or leg or something you. The teeth are pretty strong. Josh they can they can again. I don't want pita after me. And the spot scroll down. These French bulldogs are such good fighters. They can kill full grown humans. I bet they're pretty interesting fights. I think they might only fight the French bulldogs together. Because they yeah. Yeah Yeah I bet they were very quick. Yeah that's crazy. Is this woman Amish or technology cellphone? There's a picture I know. She has no neighbors. I'd have no idea. They say that she has extremely sad for her. What the what the hell like why. Why don't you go back and get that dog? She loved it and do they lost. They bust the ring. Are there other? I don't know where where she got manslaughter. Charges on the people that were that were trained. That talk Bro. That's what I'm saying. The boyfriend is living situation. What's that living situation? The boyfriend said Fuck. This dog attacked me. Take it back. There was there was a for life. There was a previous owner correct because a previous train. The dog to fight. There's a previous of there is also another French bulldog in the house and a border Collie but they're they're confident that it was this one mother fucking dog that that that did all this. These people that know rescued. They've they've they've rescued the this fighting ring than these people rescued from the shelter shutdown. That ring bulldogs out there killing people. I mean that's impressive Anyway yeah very sad story going to the Internet. All Boo all do ball. Tap says the boyfriend did so. He thinks that this was Know yellow foul play even with the prior to return. Like wait a minute. I'm looking at the picture this bulldog that's one. I don't know if that's the actual bulldog that killed her. That's her other. Bulldogs found one older to death and shredded happened. There's no I have no idea. And then one more comment H F Golf Guy says it was mixed with pit always are when this happens it really speak burner account. Yeah I might. I might written that comment but sad story and I never would have thought amls fucking dog sounds could do that show. That's awful guys. Got Another real bad one for you. Forty seven year old belly. Magenta was working with a British railway ticket colleague when an angry person came to them spat and coughed over them and said he had the noval novel Corona Virus. Ha What are those? I've got quote a virus and then you spit on someone who spent on food right. Oh yeah most. Stores Magingo died from Carlos seizes. The guy is like the the bus driver in Detroit or ask the guy to put the mask on and got shot to death except instead of a bullet was actual so no. This was way earlier. This was at the very beginning of the lockdown different. Oh that guy yet. But he didn't die did he. Did he died two? Oh goodness another advert. Faking these desks with this fake illness. Right yeah planned Democrat so she got spit on by someone. With Corona on March twenty second and died fourteen days later Jenga hat underlying respiratory problems for which he had an operation so she was Susceptible the spinner is still at large at the time recording but the British Transport. Police is investigating. That's that's good. Might want to catch him so if you saw anyone screaming. I have a corona viruses spitting in people's faces. Please call the police. This is one of the. Very few instances where tattling on someone for not social. Distancing is okay. If you now realise in hindsight you witnessed a murder grant. You can literally murderers one guy. First degree murder company go via fame's link railway refused Jenga and her co workers request to work the rest of the shift that March twenty second behind a barrier after they got spit on and said you gotTa work outside the also knew she had preexisting health conditions. They refused that specifically that there respiratory but they didn't let her leave her work until she had a doctor's note on March Twenty Fifth. The doctor's note soon would read. She's dead agenda has had a husband and son she leaves behind her husband and eleven year old daughter. She was behind. Virginia's CO worker who got spat on by that infected psychopath also got the Krona Virus. But she lift and the crisis very contagious. So if you have it. Don't spit on people now. Let's let's take to the Internet. You spitting on somebody with a pre existing condition. You fucking asshole human. So that's true but like it's not funny like literally could kill could. Yeah and spitting on like in other situations. You could say like you know you could see. I mean some people spit when they yell. So don't yell at someone like keep your distance be respectful. When you're out of lockdown. Go Enjoy Your Life. But don't spit on people taking the Hell in a handcart said. Where do you even start with this tragedy? God bless her daughter rest in peace belly and God. Forgive her killer. The rest of US might struggle. That last part didn't didn't go over well with the Internet Clap says forgive. What the Fuck Civil Engineer says forgive. Who is this mistake? I presume it is correct. This trash can't correa bro. Sfr's Bro Guide doesn't forgive anyone who commits murder which I don't know if that's true or not pretty. I don't think that's true. Yeah that's the whole point of the posts. That was the. Yeah or whenever really forgive someone who commits a murder to quit? Forgive God's extended Nine Commandments. My favorite is a desert says. Yeah Na that's one thing I couldn't joe with about being Christian some unforgivable and I felt like a fool. Transit deny say says is not having the forgiveness that large amounts of money donated and countless hours of sacrifice and devotion as a breeze. Once you start. Forgiving scumbags does as out right. Can't do it can't do it. It is. Home is one of those people that always feel like wrong. No she's incapable of especially for gives up too much forgiveness and that crazy all right. Let's close it out with another Another super scary one honestly So it's a bit of dark. Sorry is Florida on Friday coming soon. Yeah real soon But you know is couscous Charles. Thank you Charles. Researchers at NC state have developed a new soft robot robot with the soft body that moves quickly on solid surfaces and can can gently lift heavy items and they call it leap L. E. P. for leveraging elastic instabilities for amplified performance. And it's designed is based on the Cheetah. So there's a robot. Cheetah now and the way it looks when it's moving is scary as it sounds. Here's a quote from one of the scientists. She says we were inspired. By the Cheetah to create a type of soft robot that has spring powered by stable spine. The robot has two stable states. Potential applications include search and rescue technologies. Where speed is essential and industrial manufacturing robotics? For example could you imagine production line of robot? Cheetah's that are faster but still capable of handling fragile objects says the way? Too excited researcher assistant g yen at NC state. And I if she means by you know handling fragile objects she means by putting like a neural net brain inside of it and a gun on it to kill every search and kill where. Where did you find the story? I see net in the public known as someone's going to someone's going to attack NC state. I don't know if you've ever been to to the triangle area but those residents are armed and they're not going to be happy about this. They are not going to be happy about this. I'm not happy about it not either. I'm not I'm not saying someone should attack. There's there's a posse forming right. But if they should they should research the exact location laboratory in wait till people go home and only attack the laboratory. I don't think people are GonNA get hurt. I think. Just robots shuttle's robot staff time. They have time. Nobody needs to worry yet. Leap robots are only approximately seven centimeters long. At this time I'll fuck. You will thank me. Forty five grams. But botts can reach speeds of up to two point seven times their body length per second and they can also run on inclines in Athena's attached to them. They can swim faster. So this is one of those. Would you rather get in a fight with seven thousand g? No I'm saying if they make a big one rough. Yeah they have the big ones coming. Soon it's a proof of concept it's seven fucking centimeters. Exactly what guys. If you've seen T- to you know we can stop it. Now we're getting soft with bulldogs. French bulldogs are killing us. Yeah are you kidding me? This thing's not much smaller than a fringe. Boulder in the proof of concept state. That could easily kill human right now. It'll they make ten times bigger. It could guilt invisible viruses and French bulldogs are. We're not doing great. These fucking scientists go home at night and I did a good thing today like do they feel good about themselves. Knowing that they're going to share fucking they're starting the beginning of the end. They're going to die. Machine just turns around. Yeah well I don't know. Go Watch that hangar. One thing I mean it's possible. We're all already working for the aliens. I did watch it you know. I started watching the hangar one. And like Ed. I'm I'm GonNa stop and stuff like that until until until further. Not so like lockdown and stuff too much. It's too much it's too much. I'm like smoking one in lockdown. It's not it's not okay. Yeah cookie the other day then. Tried TO WATCH HANGAR HANGAR. One and was not pleasurable and like a like a special. Cook Special Cookie. Yeah I'm going back to like slapstick comedies. You know yeah yeah yeah the good old days anyways that's GonNa do it for hard factor as always thank you for listening. Please be on the lookout for the BARSTOOL comments. Show comments of the week this Friday dropping. Hopefully we'll be having somebody on For Florida Man Friday tomorrow. I'm not sure it will see subscribe to the Youtube. Channel to see the new HD setups for both mark and West. Very nice Most of ood know she sad. My chest lack may continually itch a oh to stand down stash hard now to see Scout To do with me big to Outta downers that WHO so matters to? Yeah a see that skid.

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Coronavirus news, updates, hotspots and information for 05-20-2020 COVID-19 AM Alert

Coronavirus 411

04:22 min | 5 months ago

Coronavirus news, updates, hotspots and information for 05-20-2020 COVID-19 AM Alert

"This is corona virus. Four one one. The latest covid Nineteen Info and new hotspots. Just the facts for Wednesday May Twentieth Twenty Twenty one week ago. The Wisconsin Supreme Court overruled the extension of the state stay at home order Milwaukee and racine issued their own. Stay at home. Orders but in a number of smaller cities and counties bars and restaurants were opened with limited protocols in place. So how do the numbers in Wisconsin look one week later confirmed cases gone from ten thousand nine hundred thirteen thousand one deaths from poor twenty one to four sixty bars and restaurants will start to reopen? Friday in the Milwaukee suburbs and some water and amusement parks in the Wisconsin. Dells will open Saturday challenge. Now is how to deal with people coming his constant from neighboring Illinois which has the third highest case count in the country over the weekend the CDC released a sixty page guide online to assist in the reopening of schools restaurants and other businesses guidelines for places of worship. Were not included. A federal judge in Texas has ruled that voters should be allowed to mail in ballots. The state is expected to appeal. Michigan will mail absentee ballots to all voters for the upcoming August and November elections. Arkansas will begin testing every nursing home residents and employees on June first Los Angeles County hopes to reopen businesses by July fourth. Alaska will move from phase two to phase four fully reopening the state with no capacity restrictions on Friday a mandatory two week quarantine for those arriving in the state will remain in effect through June second in opening remarks at the world. Health Assembly the W. H. O. Director General said we have come together as nations of the world to confront the defining health crisis of our time. Almost two hundred cases in Seoul South Korea have been linked to a cluster that began in a nightclub that briefly reopened after the initial lockdown was lifted as Spain continues reopening. The country masks are now mandatory for everyone over age six in public spaces. Britain's Cambridge University will move all lectures to online until mid twenty twenty one. Some small in person classes will continue the locations of hot spots and US country diagnoses in a moment hot spots in the US displaying faster rates of growth as of May nineteenth according to the New York Times Lake County. Tennessee Crawford County Iowa. Globally to GCA Stan Zambia. Haiti Nepal Central African Republic. Uganda Nicaragua Yemen. Mongolia and Mauritania have faster rates of growth. There have been one million five hundred twenty eight thousand six hundred sixty one confirmed cases of covid nineteen in the United States and ninety one thousand nine hundred. Thirty eight deaths. There were twenty one thousand. Seventy four new cases reported yesterday the ten states with the highest case counts New York. Three hundred fifty seven thousand seven hundred fifty seven New Jersey one hundred forty nine thousand Thirteen Illinois Ninety eight thousand three hundred Massachusetts Eighty seven thousand nine hundred twenty five. California eighty three thousand nine hundred eighty one. Pennsylvania sixty seven thousand four hundred four Michigan Fifty. Two thousand three hundred thirty seven. Texas Fifty One thousand Eighty Florida. Forty six thousand nine hundred thirty six. Maryland forty one thousand six hundred sixty four the five countries with the largest daily increase for may nineteenth according to the WHO Russia nine thousand two hundred sixty three Brazil. Seven thousand nine hundred thirty eight. Saudi Arabia five thousand one hundred to India four thousand nine hundred seventy Peru. Three thousand seven hundred thirty two. The ten countries with highest overall case counts Russia. Three hundred eight thousand seven hundred five Brazil. Two hundred seventy one thousand eight hundred eighty five United Kingdom two hundred fifty thousand one hundred thirty eight Spain two hundred thirty two thousand thirty seven Italy. Two Hundred Twenty six thousand six hundred ninety nine. France one hundred eighty thousand nine hundred thirty three Germany. One hundred seventy seven thousand eight hundred forty two. Turkey one hundred fifty one thousand six hundred fifteen Iran one hundred twenty six thousand nine hundred forty nine India one hundred six thousand eight hundred eighty six for the latest updates subscribe for free to corona virus. Four one one on your podcast APP or ask Your Smart Speaker to play the corona virus. Four one one. Podcast sound that brands.

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The Barrett Brief- Wisconsin SC Voids Governors Stay At Home Order

CRUSADE Channel Previews

10:10 min | 5 months ago

The Barrett Brief- Wisconsin SC Voids Governors Stay At Home Order

"All right let's lay the groundwork. We got an audio clip here from a local Wisconsin news outlet talking about the Wisconsin Supreme Court siding with the Republicans. And getting rid of these stay at home orders now we are just hearing that the court has issued its ruling and they have decided that Governor Ige and state health secretary-designate overstepped their authority by extending that order to May twenty six so the State Supreme Court has essentially overturned that ruling. Now we have to figure out what this will mean for the rest of the state at one point it was said when that order took effect there would be at least six days before the state opens up again but now we'll have to see where we go from here. I really. It's not a lot. It's not along long. One It it's the first real Bush back. We've seen legislators church. The Mike Church show Has talked about how he is He wrote his local legislature and after he had a little soy fit he decided to step up. But they haven't really done anything in the legislature. Pennsylvania tried to overrun overrun override. The governor's orders there and yet none of these things have seemed to have a lasting impact. And so one now. We're going with this legal action from Newsweek. Dot coms Geoffrey Martin Wisconsin South Carolina Up South Carolina. My goodness folks Wisconsin Supreme Court right sides with Republicans. Rules Governor's administration overstepped authority with stay at home extensions and a four three ruling. The Wisconsin Supreme Court said Wednesday that members of Democratic governor. Tony Evers Administration overstepped its authority by extending the states. Without it'd be states stayed home. Orders in March originally said to expire April Evers and Wisconsin Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Andrea Palm pushed. I to put that together Andrea Palm push the expiration date of the order out until may twenty six university unilaterally with probably very little to no proof of it and so I'm glad to see Republicans actually filing suit. I'm glad to see people pushing back. Because if not they're just gonNA keep doing this. They're gonNA keep weaponising. The health department's GONNA keep weaponising bad data and they're going to continue to expand as much power as they have gotten right. They're able to seize an a an absurd and absurd amount of power in a very short time. Think about like a five year old with a With one of those pixie sticks full of sugar and now you know that amount of sugar and a five year old not a great thing the the amount of power that these governors who have been thirsting for power for a long time the amount of power they were able to absorb take Well just those two in a small amount of time. They're they're still riding high on it. The sugar high of this kind of authority that has been granted to them so according to the ruling palms order confining all people to their homes forbidding travel and closing businesses acceded palms power exceeded palms the power. Yeah you didn't write that correctly Jeffrey. Maybe you should proof. Read a one more time exceeded palms power given under Wisconsin statutes. The her extension of the order was declared unlawful invalid on on forcible. Essentially it is. Hey this lady is on elected. She cannot make this decision. And if you look at a map if you look at Kobe map of Wisconsin if you look at a covert map of Wisconsin. All the cases are in Milwaukee most of the state is not greatly impacted by Kovin. So what we're dealing with. What we're looking at is an abuse of power once again. Cities overrunning Kong counties rural areas. We'll because there was a problem in New York. The entire country had to shut down. Because there's a problem in Milwaukee. The entire state has the shutdown. That shouldn't be how goes in indefinitely. It absolutely should not be done by somebody who has no accountability to the people. This is impacting which is why. I'm glad it was the state Supreme Court in Wisconsin. That struck this down and so then it gets into a bunch of different legal speak L. They want an injunction for six days. And all these other all this other funny stuff that they do now All of that aside yes. They've they've put in other things as well right. Other local counties have put injunctions and all this legal fight. I'd rather have the legal fight though. I'd rather have this legal fight happen between these two then states like California where. La County has extended their stay at home order until August. And everybody's like hey. This is not great but It's not you know they're just Kinda like what are you going to do? That is the collective response from the people of California. What are you GONNA do? At least in Wisconsin. You're Republican legislature is fighting back the legislature in Pennsylvania tried to you. I don't know what they're doing at this point And so the more pushback these people get hopefully right the more pushback that they get the less likely they would be to do this now. I know that the little pie in the sky but at the same time we have to realize that we have to do something we have. We have to do something too long. We've sat around and just said What are we going to do about it? What are you GonNa do about it now? People like my church actually did reach out to their legislature. And then there's other acts of civil disobedience that you can engage in don't work I'll go grab like a A Red Bull during the break acts of civil disobedience that you can actually do that you must do but we also have to to attack this from a legal perspective as well. We at least have to try. We have to try at this point. Four five two seven eight seven to three and really if you live in Wisconsin or Pennsylvania. War Definitely in Michigan with Queen Karen of how soccer mom governor Whitmer and these people get reelected. Somehow I mean I know how they'll get reelected all these in Pennsylvania Pittsburgh and Philadelphia and Harrisburg Wisconsin. It's Milwaukee in In Michigan Detroit and a couple of other areas that overrule the will of everybody else. But if there's not enough people even in these cities even in these cities that are like we can't do this anymore. This is just terrible leadership. Then y'all get what you deserve. I know people in California. We didn't vote for this. You did though you get what you deserve. You want to vote for a Democrat. Democrats have not exactly hidden. They've not exactly kept under wraps their desires for expansive government and authority. And it's not like we haven't heard them say never let a crisis go to waste So when they show up and they start assuming power and you go how. Why are they doing because they've been telling you they've just been trying to do it? Through ways of expansive Medicaid or trying to give more voting rights to people. That aren't technically here like legal aliens or any of these other things. They've been trying to do it. They've been trying to go around about but instead they've been given an expressway right now. They're going to take it. Don't be shocked when they run you over with it.

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NPR News: 04-14-2020 1AM ET

NPR News Now

04:39 min | 6 months ago

NPR News: 04-14-2020 1AM ET

"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Shay Stevens. Governors from Delaware to Rhode Island. Say they're working on a joint plan for reopening their economies Connecticut Governor Ned. Lamont says it'll be a measured coordinated. Effort have a face that we share establish the same protocols. We know how we're working together and get that information up to a down to Washington so they can coordinate as well. I mean we're going to be thinking about the mix of antigens and probably the low infection areas in terms of testing and probably the antibody testing those areas worth more prevalent so we can put together a system that allows our people to get back to work. Pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolfe says. The Group of Eastern states are taking a page from a group of West Coast Governors who've decided to take matters into their own hands responsibility for closing the state down. I think we've probably have the primary responsibility for opening up. The president trump says the decision to restart. The economy is his to make trump plans to make an announcement Tuesday on members of a task force to do that. Npr's Joel Snyder reports on the pushback. That trump is getting from some of the nation's governors at the daily White House Corona virus briefing. The president insisted that he has the authority to decide when and how to get the economy going again when somebody's the president of the United States. The Authority is total trump. Said he would rather work with the state saying guidelines on opening the economy would be issued soon but he asserted the federal government has the absolute power. The president has repeatedly stated his desire to get the economy going again but mostly democratic governors on the East and West Coast banded together and separate regional agreements to coordinate any reopening and legal scholars say the President's Constitutional Authority is limited Joyal Snyder. Npr news less than one week. After dropping. Out of the Presidential Race Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders joined Budget Joe Biden livestream video to endorse the presumptive Democratic nominee more from NPR's Haas Mukalla Sandra's headlong said he would support whoever won the Democratic nomination. But this makes it official. We've gotta make trump a one term president and we need you in in the White House so I will do all that I can see. The Joe Biden told the Vermont. Senator that he'll need him not just to win the campaign but to govern. Sanders reminded Biden. That it's new secret. They differ on some issues but their campaigns had been talking for a number of weeks and now they're setting up joint task forces to deal with policy priorities where they can find common ground such as the economy education and Climate Change. Us my colleague. Npr News San Pre market trading. Us futures are higher following mixed trading on Wall Street Monday. The Dow Jones industrials lost three hundred. Twenty eight points Monday. The Nasdaq Composite Index gained thirty eight this is NPR news. The XFL seeking chapter eleven bankruptcy protection. The filing comes just days after three booted pro football league suspended operations and laid off nearly all of its employees as NPR's Tom Goldman reports. The XFL canceled its inaugural season last month because of the corona virus pandemic when the xfl canceled. Its schedule halfway. Through the season officials assured fans the league would be back but now after the chapter eleven filing the xfl has no current plans to return in two thousand twenty one after starting its first season with strong attendance numbers and TV Ratings. Both declined the XFL. I go around in two thousand one created by pro wrestling IMPRESARIO. Vince McMahon was heavy on gimmicks and light on good football. This year's version again backed by McMahon was supposed to be a football I enterprise but now fans won't have the chance to see if it had staying power as a second pro league football landscape dominated by the NFL. Tom Galvin NPR news. A liberal challenger has ousted a conservative Wisconsin Supreme Court justice endorsed by President Trump. She'll Kurowski is victory. Reduces the state's courts conservative majority to forty three that seen by some observers as an indicator of how some voters cast ballots in November Kurowski will be on the court when Republican controlled legislature in. Wisconsin takes up redistricting next year. The battle is expected to end up before the Wisconsin Supreme Court on Asian market shares arising. I'm Shay Stevens. Npr News in Washington.

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What Can We Do About These Local Lockdown Orders?

Vicki McKenna

34:19 min | 5 months ago

What Can We Do About These Local Lockdown Orders?

"Broadcasting Till Planet Madison. Bruce City and the world on iheartradio. MECHANICA, to be a part of the program, called Hunch Gaming Wisconsin. dells toll free line at Eight, seven, two, three, five, thirteen. or email digging at WNBA dot com now here's. A. Good afternoon! Show. Coming up on the program for you this afternoon, a lot of people have emailed me. Is there anything we can do about these local orders that are keeping Wisconsin, shutdown. Well. Yes, there is as a matter of fact. We're GONNA get to that presently here. Yes, there is something you can do about those local orders like racine. City. Milwaukee city of Racine Dane County, including the city of Madison which also by the way includes the city of Sun Prairie. Verona Middleton. All of these fairly large population bases that are shut down. There's more out there. There are fewer than there were a week ago, but there's more out there, so we're going to get to that very very shortly here. Before we get to anything on the show however. I want you all who are still trying to get through on the state's unemployment lines to apply for an employment. You've been trying for eight weeks I. Want you to understand. That, Tony Evers. Has Told everybody quote. We're gearing up. To process all your claims, we're gearing up. Two months has gone by. Tony. Just told Fox six. MILWAUKEE. We're gearing up. To make you feel better. So it's good to know that Tony vs on top of it. Also today, thank you. Senator Van Juan Guard. We learned that Tony has announced seventy five million dollars. In aid. To small businesses and very very tiny chunks. And Twenty. Five million dollars in total assistance. Problem is. There's no way to apply for the aid, and there's no way to apply for the assistance. And no doubt the answer will be. We're gearing up. This guy is unbelievable. The word feckless. Jumps to mind more on that coming up on the program, but let's start with a question that lots of people emailed me. What can we do about these local lockdown orders I have a friend who owns a small business in racine, proper city of racine proper. Nothing can do. Somebody emailed me and said that he is now scheduled his wedding. In the city of Racine, but unless the local lockdown order is lifted. He's going to be out thousands of dollars in likely going to have to try to find yet another place to go to reschedule his wedding for the third time then, and this is a dime a dozen story. You've got restaurants salons, etcetera in Madison and Milwaukee in Sun Prairie and a lot of these places, and because they're local governments. Decided to essentially keep them locked down the way Tony was told he could not keep the state lockdown. They're stuck Joe. Viola and attorney is on the phone with me to talk about a some way to challenge these local October lockdown orders and Joe Welcome to the program. It's good to have you back. This is the second case now you have been involved in challenging. First, Iverson Administration, and now the extension of the administration's illegal lockdown orders by local government officials welcome back. Ricky all right. What are you doing? How does this work? Well was afternoon on behalf of seventeen different residents from across the state. In cities and counties that are affected directly by the local lockdown orders. And also in counties that don't have a lockdown water or cities that don't have a lockdown order, but whose residents are affected by the lockdown orders We filed a lawsuit in Federal District Court. The Eastern District of Wisconsin, it's in the northern division so up in Green Bay. And filed a lawsuit in Federal Court. Alleging violations of their civil rights alleging violations of their Constitutional First Amendment Freedoms in alleging that the local orders violate Wisconsin law as authoritatively set forth by the Wisconsin Supreme Court already. declaring that the power lockdown individuals extends to those individuals who are infected or who might be infected and it doesn't extend to everybody. And those certain powers that exist in an emergency are are over and done. The court said that an emergency exist at at the time it starts in emergency cannot go on for months and months and months and Wisconsin Supreme Court has already decided that so these cities and counties that are entering these orders based upon an emergency are doing so. Contrary to the express holding of Wisconsin Supreme. Court all right, so we have got local orders that. Are In violation of the court decision itself, plus you're also claiming that there are US constitutional violations. The Wisconsin Counties Association Actually Send Out Advice to county corporation counsel saying. You know those orders those local lockdown order. Some of you have put forward are illegal, and so many of the county's actually rescinded their local lockdown orders in pretty short order so. You know what's going on here. I mean this this it seems. Clear to the counties association, it seemed clear to many counties Kenosha. County being among them. Racine County even but not the city of racine. So what? What do you I mean what is going on that? It seems to be obvious to a whole bunch of people, but we have got local governments like racine or city of Milwaukee or city of Madison or Dane County insisting on maintaining what amounts to a permanent state of emergency. Okay so I'll give you an example of something that happened in allegheny county and one of the plaintiffs in this case is from allegheny county actually think more than one of the plaintiffs from allegany county. in any of that. The day after. The day after the Supreme Court issued its decision, there was an Outta game. He County order for lockdown, which was quickly rescinded. But the game, he county executive wrote a letter, and the letter does not have a date on it, and this is referenced in the complaint that I filed today. The augie county executive wrote a letter to Wisconsin Attorney General asking him essentially for an opinion on how? He could put in or how they gave me. County could put in a new order that would comply with Wisconsin Law and I think in the meantime. allegany county had gotten that this opinion from Wisconsin Counties Association, the Attorney General With within twenty four hours roll back to the allegheny county executive And he talked again about an emergency, and what can happen in a state of emergency I think he's absolutely wrong on that given the Wisconsin Supreme Court's decision, but they're certainly looks like there's some. Things going on behind the scenes there I I know if I asked for an attorney. General opinion I wouldn't get it back the same day. Emergency. Let's go back to the concept of the of emergency. Emergency gives a certain amount of authority to public health bureaucrats. But even if you read statue to Fifty two, which empowers county health departments, it also empowers the state health department to do certain things in times of emergency. The court was pretty clear that what it doesn't do is give bureaucrats the ability to shut down businesses and essentially quarantine, healthy people, and then threaten them with penalty of law violate those orders, so I'm trying to figure out how you're twisting the word emergency, even if you are twisting the word emergency to have, it covers such a broad swath of activity in a community. The Supreme Court addressed that in its decision, and if for anybody who listened to her watch, the Supreme Court's or argument, one of the things that the state relied upon was the emergency doctrine and the state's attorney gave an example that after force fire broke out the no, the legislature didn't meet need to meet her. The county or town didn't have a meeting to determine what to do. They needed to. Put the fire out. And the court recognized that instead of course but the court said and the court wrote dissonance decision that emergency powers cannot continue for month after month in the court, said specifically with respect to the covid nineteen pandemic. In the case of an ongoing pandemic because it lasts for months. For months and months, the government cannot rely on emergency powers indefinitely, and that's what the state is effect. I'm sorry that's what the local governments are effectively. Doing Green. Green County Down in the south. West area of the State is one of these counties that put one of these orders into place immediately, and then rescinded the order with within now within a short number of days But in Greene County there had been one person hospitalized for covid nineteen one. nevertheless, the entire county was closed down. Nobody could go to church. You couldn't have your mother over for Mother's Day. You couldn't have Easter dinner. You couldn't have a Passover meal in Greene County. So the court was very clearness decision that in emergency in an emergency, the government can quickly react but thereafter it needs to rely on its ordinary hours, and can for month after month indefinitely shut people I think that's going to be a very pub. I think that'd be a potent part of your argument, because it is difficult to argue that we are still in an emergency when Wisconsin broadly has reopened, and if no matter how? How you want, contorts yourself and try to manipulate the metric so that you can try to keep an art. You can try to maintain an argument that we still have some crisis that we need to solve here. The state and the counties themselves defined their own emergency, and their own emergency was the increase number of cases of covid nineteen, and until we got over a curve and flattened it in order to maintain the integrity of the hospital system. They've all gone forward and adopted the language of an. Andrea Palms Language and Tony Evers language of what the definition the soft definition of emergency is, and so now you've got racine saying you know. Maybe it'll July thirty first, but we're not quite sure and Dane County says we've got a red light, yellow, light green light. System that we're going to put into place and we may never meet that system. We may never meet these metrics that can't I mean. You can't argue that you keep changing the definition of the word emergency. As it fits your political interests. and. Have this be somehow legal because it's not rational. Well I'm happy to be in federal court system where for matters of state law. The federal. Court is going to look to the Wisconsin Supreme Court as the final authority on what was concentrate. Law is and in the. Case of the Wisconsin legislature versus injury in the court's decision The court said that essentially this is no longer an emergency. You could not indefinitely month after month. Rely on emergency powers and Wisconsin Supreme Court has already said that in Wisconsin. Supreme Court is the final arbiter of what Wisconsin law is so. I'm hopeful that I don't have to argue about whether. There's an emergency anymore or not. Because I think the Wisconsin Supreme Court already answered the question standing. So you're saying that the default definitions are going to be taken from the Wisconsin Supreme Court decision itself which will be advantageous to the people. You are representing Here's the of course the question. How quickly how quickly can this begin to move forward It seems like time is of the essence here because you're talking about people who are surrounded now racine for instance. Suburban Milwaukee Milwaukee County has on Friday for all practical purposes is going to be open for business. City of Milwaukee is not going to be you know Salmon Racine. You've also got counties Jason Counties. Collar counties that are putting an enormous amount of pressure on people. And you know it's not gonNa Take Very Long for folks to say well I guess my counties not open. I think I'm going to go hit the salon ten minutes for me because I can cross the county line, or it can cross city line, and I can, and I can take care of myself that way so time is of the essence. Will the court see the timely nature of your filing? Well I don't have control over that, but I do hope so, and I'll I'll tell you the examples you give. There are a number of Salon owners and operators from Dane County that are parties and plaintiffs in the case. And some of them are on the outskirts of Dane County. Where down the block or down the road? salons are open but there. Well I mean seriously. It's a twenty minute drive to pass the county line and. You know in a significant portion of county you can. It doesn't take very doesn't take much of a effort to go to a different county, but how about some of the places that are that have counties that are open, but cities within counties that are not. That's even easier no-show Christine Kenosha well. How long does it take forgot? I haven't driven it about. I don't know it's probably about six months or so but I do remember. It wasn't that long of a drive We're not far if you WANNA go from of downtown, racine to downtown Kenosha, it's not far and so the kenosha businesses in the KENOSHA businesses are gonNA, benefit and racine. Who knows why or what they're doing? Thanks very much for coming on the program Jolan. In by the way, do we have a posting of this? Where people can read the filing can, they can learn about it. I don't. I do have a facebook page and I have my group is called veteran's liberty law that I run I do have a facebook page a you could post it on. will do that. I have a copy of the filing. It's GonNa. Take me a while to convert it from PDF to a postal forum folks, but we will make sure that you will be able to have access to the actual details and Texas the filing. Thanks Joe for coming on the show. Thank you good to have you Joe Boland attorney, and so those of you who have asked. What can we do well? One of the things you can do is file a lawsuit and Joe is done that on behalf of a number of different people. Some other things you can do and we'll get to that next importantly. Folks. There are some other things you can do. Rather than wait around to see whether or not Joe Vol and is going to be successful with his federal lawsuit on behalf of a number of different people across different counties that have local lockdown orders. and. And you take just take a cue from what has been going on in other states like New Jersey or in Michigan. Just. Refuse to comply. In Dane County for instance, the Dang County Sheriff's department and the city of Madison Police announced they would not be enforcing the local lockdown order through citations. The health department doesn't have enough bodies to dispatch to enforce the local lockdown order, so one of the things you can do is just simply refused to comply. Simply refuse to comply and another thing you can do is when you refuse to comply refuse to comply in large numbers, so that might be a business making sure that a whole bunch of people show up at that business so that when or if anyone shows up to try to force you to comply, it becomes very difficult. So civil disobedience is safer a numbers. which is what I'm. What I'm telling you. Second thing is get cited. Allow yourself to get cited. You instantly now have standing to challenge claim. And, of course, folks, there is nothing wrong with a little bit of old time organizing. You want to put pressure on Cory Mason and racine. How about fifty or one hundred of your show up at his front door? For a few days in a row when he wants to bop on over to Kenosha County and have some fun on the Memorial Day, weekend. This is Vicky McKenna show. I'll be right back. All right. Mechanics show real quickly I apologized to a turney. Joe Or judge Joe is some of you know him as I mispronounce his last name. It's violence so sorry Joe. And judge. Joe Says he will represent anyone cited if they decide to engage in civil disobedience, he will represent anyone cited by local authorities for violation of local lockdown orders at no cost. He just texted that to me. And also invited anybody who would like to participate in federal lawsuit that he has filed. To please contact him. His last name is spelled the I. L. A. N. D. and one more time. I apologize for mispronouncing your last name. It is Joe Voi- lind. V O I L A N D so all right? Let me start before David. David Clarke is standing by and the phone. Welcome to the program. and. That's good news It seems like we're getting our war footing in this pushback and its resistance movement, and Kudos to that attorney either violent for offering his services and one of the things that I've advised people to do. If you receive municipal citation going on the court, the NASCAR jury trial and have to go into circuit court, and then the the city. has to give you a trial by jury. You know, tell you what this climate I don't think. Anybody's going to be found guilty, but it also overwhelmed the circuit court system in Dane. County Milwaukee County. Wherever you live, and that's important too overwhelmed government resources to be able to deal with this all right. That's a good idea. Ask for a jury trial. That's you're right. That isn't even civil disobedience. That's just you're right and again remember if you are cited, feel free to contact me and I will get you the information for for judge. Joe Joe. Voice and I want to start by reading a letter to the editor David. If you don't mind, this is from the capital times. And I'm just going to read says here. A small business owner and this lockdown will likely end the business. I put twenty seven years of blood, sweat and tears into so I sympathize with people who want to get back to work. Businesses need customers, not loans or handout right pretty good so far, right? I. Am not a flat Earth Science, denying lunatic carrying military guns at a protest, though by being in favor of opening up the economy. I'm sure I will be lumped into that group and ridiculed. I am a Democrat and no fan of President Donald Trump, but this dismissive attitude by the far left that ignores the pains of millions of hardworking Americans is precisely what fueled trump's win in two thousand sixteen. This is a guy who's GonNa lose everything. And doesn't seem to recognize that his politics are the problem here. He's begging Democrats not to Democrats. He's begging Democrats to be Republicans, but he wants everybody to know that he hates Republicans just like the rest of them I mean. How is it that that is not abundantly clear? That politics has driven almost all of this? If maybe if you don't count the first two weeks when everyone was freaking out, but after that politics drove the bus and this guy who I feel sorry for. This guy doesn't seem to recognize that his politics were the architect of his own misery here. For a minute You know what a period of time in this country and the state of Wisconsin and communities. where everybody's feeling the pinch and the fact that a Democrat. Or who wants Democrat I'm a belongs to. The party doesn't matter, but the fact that he understands that there is some parallel. Here's parallels here in this political environment that trends and party and it's called survival. Calling American way of life is called determining. Your own course to success or what you want to do in this country, and he sensing that and so I think that it's a point in time right now. All hands on deck. We GonNa have those fights later on, but one of the things that I've noticed too from a government standpoint and basically talking about the GOP legislatures. They never defined a strategy for how to deal with Over nineteen I'm not talking about testing all this other nonsense. Not Talking about social distancing would stop using that phrase by the way that faith on any kind of science. And when I mean I- strategy you know me I'm big on strategy and then implementation successful implementation strategy. Through operationalize, it is and I think it was pretty clear. It should have been number one. Coming out of this parole virus nineteen. We want to reopen schools I haven't heard anything about that and the legislature. The GOP legislature has made it very clear to the public school systems not surprised the public school system. You get no money if your doors are not open at first Monday after Labor Day no money zero. And, then the other area I think that they needed to talk about it. Continue to talk. About is opening up sporting events. So people say on sports is not that important I. don't care whether you liked sports or not, but it is part of the American lifestyle. It will be a symbol. To people that life is getting back to normal, and I'm not talking about sports without fans, although government can't force to have fans, but the thing is. Those two things here third one open searches and I realize some churches studying open after he was struck down his his safer at home or Whatever it's called, but the fact is some searches are still a little hesitant, and you know we're starting to put these stipulations on people. Even retail businesses rights can only have five people in your story time. No none of that no compromise. No deals no conditions we want. These things fully opened up that the business owner decide. The business wants to say I'm GonNa have my table six feet apart fine God, bless them, but at the business of decide so I think those three areas people can see open. The schools turn of sporting events with fans, an open it searches would send a huge message to the people of Wisconsin to the people of America. We did nationwide. That American light is returning to normal. Not a new normal, but returning to normal. And that's something because you've seen the. ADS On television, all of the advertisements now have adopted the language of lockdown, calling it social distancing attempting to normalize it. There's an ad for jared jewelers were their advertising for your virtual wedding will help you plan your virtual wedding. What the Hell is a virtual wedding? So they're trying to normalize it, they have happy people. On, zoom talks with each other drinking wine akin. Mean I've seen all of these ads. They're all about this. Trying to normalize this isis self isolation and trying to get people to somehow except, but it's not being accepted. The polling on this has shifted dramatically only in the last two weeks two weeks ago at the end of April two weeks ago. The majority of people were quite comfortable with the idea of the government telling them when it was okay for them to live their lead their lives again that that number has lost twenty points of support in the last two weeks in states have begun to open up particularly as us. You don't see the the apocalypse has descended upon these states that have decided that freedom is okay. I I agree with you that the Republicans. They don't need a piece of legislation. They just need to go on record. Because really you can't order sporting events to you know to be opened up. You can say that in Wisconsin you know. These are the things that we expect to happen. I think the legislation should be about schools and I'm not sure if anybody is out there, working on legislation like that, but I'll tell you what the media's willing to spin it anyway Tony Eva's wants them to. And if the Republicans aren't careful, this is going to end up being an anvil around their neck. These little lifestyle changes after trying to force on us I find highly problematic. And Very intrusive. You know you talk about you mentioned that. Yeah Six feet apart. You talked about worrying mass. LOOK IF PEOPLE WANNA. Ask God bless him I do not care about that will not wear a mask. Why will not wear masks? Because I've done my own independent research? Others Clark again, doing his own independent research. And I'm talking about from doctors at renowned medical of silly, entered medical, one of the top three or four medical schools in the country, and I'm listening and reading. Those doctors will say look. We don't. We don't encourage people to be reckless, but the stuff that they're doing. It's not gonNA help. Wearing a mask is not decrease your. risk at getting over nineteen. It's just doesn't the same with you know. The the six part does not. Reduce the risk of getting covert nineteen. That's why I won't do it, or it's not natural. The word something over my mouth like that So you know when we look at some of the things that are starting to become like we've been rewired that way. That's what leads to continue to follow down these rabbit holes by the way CDC today the CDC issue. Every report. That says. Corona virus is not. As contagious thought it was from touching. Services are alright, but you're. We're all running around and there's nothing wrong with that. You want some you know. Take some cleaner like something down fine I carry the the hand sanitizer with me. Then really do that before I'll do that. That's. To me. That's a reasonable thing to do. Wash my hands a little more, but that's about as far as going so when when they when they bend us too much, though let you be aware math. I can't wait till we get the first stretch of weather here in Wisconsin where it's ninety. Day and it's humid has helped, and I wanna see if people find it comfortable, you know when the air is thick, and it's hard to breathe anyway to see if it's You know people are going to continue to wear these masks like this so. Again I don't care what they do. I don't I don't look at anybody weird. If I can find you know, do your thing, but don't. Colds that crap on me. You'RE GONNA. Have People by the way answer the question? What's going to happen when it gets to be ninety degrees and humid in Wisconsin like we know it gets, and the answer is no. They're not gonNA. Wear those masks now they're not. This not going to happen. The thing is you have got the left desperately needing to keep people scared and it starting to by the way it's starting to fail. People are starting to venture outside like they did when you know. When when the Germans were bombing, different cities in different towns, you know for a while. They were willing to stay in the in the bomb shelters, and they were staying there for days and days, and then pretty soon, a couple of people would venture out and Germans were still bombing. But people were starting to venture out and starting to take risks and starting to measure those risks against against what was happening to them in isolation in isolation has been killing people. So I. think that you're going to see in two weeks from now. You're going to see more people who are going to say. This is getting over the top. We are getting sick and tired of this and I. Think the longer. The left tries to maintain their stranglehold of fear on America to try to force all mail in voting to get rid of voter ID this case. They filed in the Eastern District of Wisconsin. You know to try to change the way. We live and what we are as a country. I think people are going to begin to reject that at some point I hope people start rejecting that vocally so that it doesn't. It's not just easy to pick people off. It's not easy just to harass them into compliance. Yes, it takes some time but I'm sensing and I have a couple of times. We've talked you know. We sense this momentum shift sometimes these things they don't turn around on a dime although when they shut us down, they did it on dining. Just flip the switch and everything stopped, but. getting started back up. This isn't going to work that way, but I want to rely on the people who owned businesses. Who you know, hey, it took a lot to even get that thing going. They know a little bit something about running a business. Let them set the parameters government setting the parameters I guess one of the things about. Not allowing large-scale events, not just sports. It prevents Donald Trump from coming to Wisconsin, holding a massive rally it protect prevents Donald Trump from going to Arizona was going to be a close state. From going to Arizona and a massive rally because that's campaign style. That's a tactic he uses. He's very good at it and he's very successful. Michigan is the same wink. They won't put Pro- the governor the other day. said it again. There will be no sporting events. This has alterior motive is to prevent Donald Trump from coming to a city in matters, in in Michigan or Wisconsin, and having twenty twenty thousand people show up at some stadium or add some arena in hold the rally, so don't. Discount, the fact that there's an ulterior motive here. For Democrats you know moving into the twenty twenty twenty election, and you notice to some of the governor's with. They're saying well probably won't be able to do this until the end of the year. Well by that time that the election will be over, so they're just trying to buy time. It's a stall tech and green and Democrats are not interested in supporting small businesses Tony. Has Shown zero interest in doing anything to support the small businesses of the people who have been affected by this. He can't even put staff on the phones for a full eight hour shift at DWP, so make no mistake. This is this little hell that we have lived through for the past eight weeks, and some of us are still living through is designed. To kind of be a taste of what the Democrats would have in store for us in the future David Clarke. Thank you very much and by the way email here says can David Clarke please run for governor. Just thought I'd throw that out there on your plate to see if you'll take the cheese. Thanks David. Thanks going to take the cheese. Take the chase. David all right. Thanks for coming on the show today. I'm going to take a quick break here. This is Vicki. McKenna show. Yesterday I talked about a really kind of depressing poll about how many Republican supported things like universal health care. In the shadow of covid nineteen well today I have a less pessimistic poll and that was one done by Scott Rasmussen and his group. That has now. Almost fifty percent of people. Believing the lockdowns have done more harm than good. That is dramatically different from two weeks ago. Thirty four percent of people trusting government. To make decisions about the pandemic forty three percent of people now trusting the public that was reversed two weeks ago and now sixty percent of people believing that all businesses repeat all businesses. Should be open. All businesses should be open. What's it? GonNa look like in two weeks. I wonder. The mayor of racine is thinking about that. What's IT GONNA look like in two weeks. Is the Mayor of Milwaukee? Think about this. How about in two weeks mayor of Madison? This. Is Vicki McKenna show.

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Medicine vs. Cabinet

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Medicine vs. Cabinet

"It's Wednesday may twentieth. How seriously would you take your doctor if you knew? Their own boss ignored their advice. We start here if you ask. The Corona virus taskforce doctors about the president's new medication. Their answer is look over. There pitted president meeting with the alarming disconnect between the president and the health officials working for him. Another judge tells it governor. No you can't shut that down. Some of these successful challenges have basically alleged that the right procedure just followed the evolving legal line between public safety and overreach. And it's easy to say. Trust the science when you feel like scientists always been on your side. I think number one. A lot of rumors about it being a hoax were race and covid nineteen intersect in Mississippi from ABC News. This is start here. I'm Brad milkey right now to New York City. Subway is really never been clearer. Very few people are writing at all. The cars are getting these extra wipe down at the end of drawn and yesterday officials came out with researchers from Columbia University to say these trains getting something else as well it's going to be blasted with UV light. It's been known for more than one hundred years in fat but UV. Light is incredibly efficient at killing viruses and bacteria. You were Columbia. Scientists saying this is new. We have learned that this can kill covid. Nineteen in the real world approves that it if used these lamps and the duration and the placement of those labs is what. We're trying to figure out that that you have confirmed kill of Cove. Nineteen so thinking about this. You're about to see. Mta workers hauling around these little portable lamps to shine on the insides of subway cars. If it works they got to buy more and do it. Big Regional trains this already done in hospitals for that bacteria we talked about but now what about local Shopping Mall Your local gym? The point is we are still profoundly inexperienced with this virus. You're learning things every day every week this evening. At least four children have now died this time of fifteen year. Old cases found at least twenty-five states it's primarily respiratory but we're learning about patients becoming delirious their questions over how this affects the brain the heart and because we are still learning or mistakes now can be amplified later which is why it was such a flashpoint. When President Trump told reporters? He's been taking hydroxy. Clark win the frontline workers. Many many taken it I happen to be taken it. I happened to be taking it. Actually Jenkin Hydroxy and right now you could hear it there in reporters voices wait. What seriously it's the federal government has said that this is not the right approach and yet the president is doing it anyway. Americans are looking for guidance. To clear up confusion this will crystallize the sense in Washington that even our top officials for marching in sometimes very different directions. Abc's Karen Travers covers the White House force. Karen can we just start off with? Do we have any more clarity on? How President Trump got this prescription? Well he's been working with his doctor at the White House and his doctor on Monday night. Put out a letter saying that they had had conversations about whether or not this would be an effective treatment and that they looked at the potential benefit and whether that would outweigh the relative risks. Now the letter essentially says they concluded it did medical experts and doctors in the last twenty. Four hours have said. Well there's really still a small riskier and the fact that there's no proven benefit of it. It's a surprise that they made that calculation. It's great now. You have to go to a doctor. I have a doctor in the White House. I said what do you think? And it's just a line of defense just talking about as a line of defense. I'm dealing with a lot of people. Look at all the people in the room. You know. I'm the president and I'm dealing with a lot of people now Brad. The president did say on Tuesday. The timing of why he started taking it because he didn't reveal that on Monday and there were a lot of questions because he said he started taking it a week and a half ago. What happened a week and a half ago at the White House vowed to the growing concern at the White House tonight? Positive cases their first military valet who serves the president his meals. Now Vice President. Mike Pence is press secretary so read on Tuesday. Nobody at the White House really wanted to get into it with reporters about the president. Taking this drug. There's no magic bullet. There's no magic vaccine or therapy. The White House Gruner Virus Response Coordinator Dr. Deborah Burke. Somebody somebody who's been at the podium everyday for weeks now suddenly doesn't answer questions. I'd she was asked at the White House. Do you have any concerns? He is taking this and she responded that. It's great that it's not going to be raining for the next couple of days. We'll and that's the thing so it makes sense as far as why he might think. Hey I should do something extra except I'm confused about what it does like originally. We thought this is a treatment. Perhaps once you got the virus but he seemed to be taking it as as a preventative. Measure are there signs that it works for either of those scenarios? So let's take them separately. The president has been promoting hydroxy chloroquine as a treatment for covid nineteen. He was really pushing this as a miracle drug so diverse. Strong powerful medicine but it doesn't kill people. We have some very good results very good tests. You've seen the same tested have but there's still no evidence that one this is effective in the treatment of it. The there hasn't been enough studies and the studies that have been out. There have not really shown a significant impact was a false study done where they gave it to very sick people extremely sick people people that were ready to die. It was given by obviously not friends of the administration but on the idea of preventing against Covid nineteen which is why the President says. He's taking this right now. There are no studies yet on. This is unproven. There are clinical studies underway ongoing But so far there's nothing that the White House or the President can point to to say that right there proves this works. And that's why he should be taking this. So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light now remember it was only a couple of weeks ago where the president was speculating at the White House. Podium about the idea of using sunlight. Uv light to treat the virus or injecting bleach into the human body moisture cleaning. Because you see it gets into the lungs and it does a tremendous Nobilo so it'd be interesting to check that so that's doubled this before where he throws out some crazy idea that you might have seen on facebook or forwarded from your cousin your aunt but this is the president of the United States saying at the White House. It does send a wrong message and we had hundreds of calls come into our emergency hotline at our health department asking if it was if it was right to an jest clorox when he does get called out on that. How can you say bleach? How can you now say you're taking this drug he says wasn't I'm just throwing out some ideas. I heard it. I've gotten some good phone calls about it. As he said about hydroxy clerk win this weekend I wanted to share that information. We've seen over the years. President trump has been like a solid reliable. Booking spiracy theorist programs A. He's espoused false conspiracy theories himself at times. And those host. You'll notice are often hawking. Alternative medical products themselves a political outsider. Nece at and kind of medical outsider. Nece often do that. Crossover Appeal Karen Travers in Washington. Thanks so much thanks Brad. The White House has issued guidance for when to reopen how to reopen but so far the final word on all this is really rested with governors. It can be based on science but also how they feel who they're listening to but more often the real final word seems to be coming from judges. The Wisconsin Supreme Court Wednesday declared the administration's extended order to stay home. Unlawful invalid and unenforceable breaking news just hours ago a late night ruling by the orbits and Praying Court governor. Kate Brown stay at home. Order is back on for now in the last couple of weeks. We've seen judges at several levels strike down state and local orders on gatherings on worship services on elections yesterday. The Supreme Court of Organs said they'd be taking a look at Governor Brown's decision which a lower court has already deemed illegal. Abc's legal analyst here. Kate Shot Kate. I remember as all these orders being drafted. You know you were saying governors have pretty broad powers in an emergency. These judges seem to be saying what these powers aren't as broad as we might have thought well great. It's still the case that most legal challenges to these orders have failed so just over a week ago. For example there was a decision out of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court rejecting a challenge brought by a group of businesses to that Governor. Stay home order and actually those businesses asked the United States Supreme Court to take up their case and the Supreme Court declined to do that so I do think the message there is at least the. Us Supreme Court doesn't think there's much of an argument that there's anything wrong under the federal constitution with these orders but of course whether they fly under state law if a different question Governor Brown. I declared an emergency in March. It was supposed to last sixty days but earlier this month. She extended it for another sixty days. Senate Group of Churches from around Oregon sued saying that was illegal because the state has a twenty eight day limit on emergency declaration state constitutions do give their executives broad authority in particular to deal with emergencies but there are limits to that power and their limits both in scope and in duration and some of these successful challenges have basically alleged that the right procedure just weren't followed. We'll so they like the narrow orders of this thing shutdown distinct ships down then. There are like the very broad ones right. You can't travel. You can't have your non essential business open. You're actually on a brief for one of these. That was the huge Wisconsin ruling. Well so I will say. There was a major development last week when the Wisconsin Supreme Court struck down that state's stay home order although it was actually an extension of this original order And that's right there were a bunch of amicus briefs filed in that case Is on a brief filed by a group of law professors arguing that the stay home order actually was lawful. But you know I I will say Wisconsin is a somewhat unique case. Republican legislative leaders sued the Iverson Administration over the COVID nineteen order now. The onus is on the Individual. If you don't feel comfortable going into a restaurant or whitchurch and don't go. The politics in that state are about as toxic as they are anywhere and here it was actually the legislature suing the state's top health official challenging the lawfulness of the stay home order in most states like Pennsylvania. It's private businesses or it's churches or it's groups basically saying either. This order goes too far or it's gone on too long or it doesn't make some exemptions that Oughta make here the legislature just making a sweeping argument that the executive totally lacked the power to do what it did here as far as any kind of restrictions based. That's not going to happen. So and what was so unfortunate about the Wisconsin outcome was that you had a conservative state supreme court seeming to side with the Republican legislature In a decision that had quite a bit of pretty partisan feeling rhetoric so a lot of the time. The final word on these matters is GONNA lie in the hands of judges in. It's unfortunate when the public the impression that judges are just acting politicians in robes. We'll so if there's a line for these judges where is the line like you mentioned? Churches is once you set on my beliefs than you can't do this anymore. Where well so I would say. The general rule here is that if these orders are neutral and applicable to everyone and don't single out particular groups into an singled out religion for disfavored treatment. Then as a general matter they should be lawful like being back together with your family. The reunion made possible for churches across the state because Tabernacle Baptist took the issue to court arguing. That was unconstitutional for governor any Bashir a limit mass gatherings which included in-person services for houses of worship. But there are some judges suggesting that religion not only needs to be treated in the same way as everything else but with special protection and special care under the First Amendment which does single out religion for special protection for New York State. Democratic primary is now back on the primary which Governor Cuomo canceled last week. We'll be held. June twenty third as originally planned today a federal judge in New York reversed the decision saying cancelling it infringes on the rights of Bernie Sanders and Andrew Yang. Some at the same questions arise around elections right. Sort of how broad is emergency power And Wendy sort of need to return to business as usual. I think the law puts a great deal of stock in sort of how active the emergency is so I think that any executive branch officials power is at its height in the early days of an emergency and particularly one like this where the numbers were just climbing up at such a shocking and terrifying rate I think as we move further from the height of the crisis the power of executive branch to suspend the lot of business as usual will wayne but judges are still going to have to strike a balance there working with law that was crafted in response to very different circumstances and I'm not sure it has been updated to account for all the unknowns that surround this virus in the meantime we've already had governors to throw up their hands and say. Hey Look we're not gonNA have time to re craft this right now so I guess people just do what you want. Kate shall fascinating stuff. Thank you thank you brad next up on. Start here seven days off seven unrelenting days on. We'll take you inside. 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It was four pages long. The minority communities are really going to be well served. I think we are going to get right back and this includes everybody. This includes our whole country but right back to where it was which was record setting them. A good portion of this report was just providing links to other websites to data that. We've already seen before. But the issue of racial disparities class advantages and institutional bias. These real things and they're having a real effect during this pandemic lot more than four pages worth so across. Abc News we are taking a closer look this week today. We begin a three part series. We're calling pandemic a nation divided when it start in Jackson Mississippi. Remember this is a state where barely a third of the population is black. But we're African. Americans. Make up nearly two thirds of the cases. We're joined now by a hospital nurse. Felicia FELICIA you've not to use your last name because you're not authorized to speak on behalf of your hospital so let's start with. What can you tell me about where you are what you well. It is one of the bigger hospitals in the state so it has a pretty high traffic area. I'm an ICU nurse. Since this whole Bockel started. I'm a covert. Icu nurse now specifically. That's your that's your yet feet. That's your job. So what's that like on a given day chaos? We're kind of going filing into a nice rhythm now but at the same time it is chaos because it's a disease that we still don't know a lot about and we're still encountering new things and we're still trying what works and what doesn't some people come in and they can do fine on just a little bit of oxygen and they'll be okay and they can bounce back and some people they can come in and they can come on oxygen and for whatever reason for prime example. We had one patient. He took Kanye off to eat. I don't know why. But that was his reason and like immediately his oxygen Sach dropped. We could not get him back up even after he put him back on and he ended up being very emergency intimated and that happens a lot people feel like they're okay but there's this silent how poxy where your oxygen levels aren't where they need to be. You just don't feel like it at the time and this is something we've never seen before you see when someone doesn't have enough oxygen. They're struggling. There's like that you would usually know if you don't have enough oxygen. I had talked to so many people. They were normal. Is Like Ninety. Three two hundred. I have had a full blown conversation with someone telling me that they're fine. And they're setting like eighty five eighty. This is completely add the norm and that's also a scare for those who are at home because again you feel fine. I don't feel bad enough to have to go to the hospital in by the time you do get what you feel bad enough. It's probably pretty dire their point so in your area and your hospital who's coming in. Who are the patients well with Mississippi? Eight is unfortunately pretty stereotypical. We are the most a beat state we do have the most co morbidity in my area alone it is predominantly African Americans cya rates of diabetes high blood pressure and other conditions. That make it more difficult for someone to fight off. The new disease fell food. The lack of healthcare. You know people not trusting the healthcare system or people not having the adequate health insurance to get annual checkups and go to. The doctor has been one of the biggest barriers just as heavy as epidemics. Charlie be it for lack resources lack of education or just noncompliance yet that skepticism of medical workers. Can we talk about that for a second? Because does that strike you as bizarre in this moment Felicia or is it. Kind of understandable in communities that have been ignored had been mistreated throughout the years absolutely. And it's not just all of the setting I mean if you've seen the news stories and you've seen anywhere on social media. There is a disparity between black and brown communities in other races when they go get healthcare. If I say that I'm in pain I'm in pain. According to the CDC's latest research. African American women are four times more likely to die during pregnancy than white women. There's a lot of distrust and disparities there and not only that one of the biggest things with Kobe for me is. I've seen number one a lot of rumors about it being a hoax and people not taking this seriously breaks my heart to see twenty eight year old people posting on facebook. That black people can't get it. It breaks my heart to see dad. We got grandparents who really want the best for everyone. But they have millennials that are going around them and leaving them infected being that. This is Kobe and you know we have to limit visitation to try to stop the spread of They in ICU. They aren't allow visitors unless they're actively dying and then family can come in for a couple of hours. They can't get near them but they can. At least come so it's essentially like drop you off in the ambulance or at the front of the hospital and I don't see you again for a lot of people you get a phone call or to updates today and you never get to see that person so you know you're not setting is you just know where I don't know what they're doing and the unknown at. Oh you're even less apt to trust the healthcare providers if you don't even get to see what they're doing exactly so that's that's like a big thing. I feel for people because you winning that. They didn't seem that bad when they winning. And if they're intimated you can't talk to them like hey how you doing today they they treating you OK. Is You have to take our word for it and you get a phone. Call like hey. They're not doing so good or hey. They've passed on then. Can you take the outside the hospital? Felicien working seven days on seven days off. You're telling me so those other seven days like you're living your life like everyone else. Can you sort of see the spread happening around you? Well there's the city here. In Mississippi. There was a huge community outbreak. And we were Ex. Chilly able to pinpoint like patient zero patient. Zero was actually a patient of ours but not social. Distancing is a big thing. People not washing their hands covering their call off. I went to Walmart a few days ago and I walked in. It was packed. Not even half of the people in there had may some customers at the Walmart on Highway. Eighteen which recommends face coverings for anyone coming inside. Said they don't plan to follow the mayor's order all bunch of Baloney. Why I don't even know I just like hey. My job is to take care of you but I want you to do to need to do to stay safe and you're telling me no. I'm not going to stay say I'm going to go out and I'm going to live life and enjoy my life and I want to put myself at risk. Jaffa take care of me so the big question is GonNa be. Do you think you're seeing that affect more in your community than others might be. I think so. I think in a wealthy suburb. They have more opportunities of healthcare so they are healthier to start so they already have leg of with being healthier and then I mean the wealthier jobs they usually those that are at home working from home right now in the executives day at are at home making the decisions on what the lower class are going to do and the lower class has to go out. I mean nobody. Wealthy is working in Walmart right now. Some people can't afford to take off work. My mom was just telling me that a friend of hers her. She was a nurse in when this first started she quit and she was like my husband can take care of me and take care of the family until this is all blown over a lot of people. Don't have that opportunity. And yes we got this one stimulus take but twelve. Hundred dollars doesn't go very far especially considering how long this has been going on reminds you that every American community seeing the same virus maybe through different Lens sometimes very different outcomes and I got data on Mississippi right in front of me cases rose throughout all of April's it was going down in a lot of other states seeming to hold steady now with the biggest busters right there in Jackson Mississippi. Felicia thank you so much for the time. You are more local last thing. Her name was Norman. The Colby but you probably know her by the one given tour in court keen right. Mclovin was the plaintiff known as Jane Roe. She died in twenty seven but in the months before she passed. She spoke to a documentary. Crew it was nineteen. Sixty-nine I was pregnant and I was scared. Just yesterday we learned that in it. She clears up one of the biggest mysteries of her life. Why did such an icon of the abortion rights movement? Spend the rest of her life. Trying to overturn the landmark ruling as my death bed. Confession Little backstory here. Norma mccorvey never actually had an abortion. Because her case took so long to litigate she remained anonymous for a decade but then she went public in the eighties and became this kind of uneasy poster child for the abortion rights me. She's here today coming out of hiding for this and we appreciate courage then. She was working in an abortion clinic. She became friends with the minister. Who Baptized her? I I've seen too much. I've learnt too much with him. Spent years campaigning against the law. That bore her name. And that Scott. The pro-choice forces worried the anti choice movement will just have a field day with this is not a pro-life figurehead. She is a born again Christians in this documentary. She says that was all an act. An Act she got paid for. The directors located checks paid to her a former anti-abortion crusader Amaechi. She was paid but he is still shocked when she says her beliefs were faked and in a way Roe v Wade is still on the docket. The Supreme Court will rule on abortion this year. Just like the legal issues everything about Norma mccorvey. The person is complicated. She was never a poster child. She never will be but the woman everyone knew as row is still surprising us with her story. And this Documentary Aka. Jane wrote premiers Friday on F X which is now owned by our parent company. Disney just a huge bombshell on this whole debate. Start TOMORROW HIT. If you haven't already mourn all these stories of ABC News Dot Com or the ABC News App Bread Nothing There's not a person in America who hasn't been impacted in some way by the coronavirus pandemic but in every community. 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Denied in-person funerals, obituary pages become where we mourn

The Daily 202's Big Idea

11:41 min | 5 months ago

Denied in-person funerals, obituary pages become where we mourn

"Good morning. I'm James Home From The Washington Post in. This is the daily to. Oh to for Thursday may own in today's news forty percent of American households making less than forty thousand dollars a year lost a job in March the Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down that governors stay at homework order and the sideline federal vaccine. Chief will testify today. That were headed for the darkest winter in modern history. The trump administration doesn't get its act together but first the big idea Bryan Mark Ward has spent years confronting death through writing about lives as the obituaries editor at the Boston Globe. He has conducted thousands of interviews over the past fourteen years. But never have the conversation's been as affecting as now never. Has He received such reader feedback or so many requests for stories. He told the Post ally. Azadi there's never been anything like this across the board. Brian says every part of this job is more intense. At least eighty three thousand. Three hundred and four Americans have died as of this morning from the corona virus yesterday alone one thousand six hundred and forty one. More deaths were reported. This has put new focus on a time honored but frequently overlooked side of the newspaper business at a time. When social distancing is forced us to abandon many of our usual grief rituals obituaries in pay death notices if turned into important proxies for morning and their sheer volume on the printed page is a stark reminder of a disease that might otherwise be invisible for many readers. The impact of cove nineteen is most dramatically seen for many papers in a rise in the number of death notices the paid ads written and submitted by families and funeral homes which often run alongside. Stafford News Obituaries on. May Third the Boston Globe brand twenty three pages of them compared with seven pages during the comparable date a year ago. Not all of these deaths were from Cova but to see that jumbo-size section was sobering for many readers nonetheless. A Chicago Times. The striking change hasn't been more submissions of death notices but ones that are longer on average with more details from the lives of the deceased some almost feel like substitutes for eulogies yet to be delivered now that so many memorial services and funerals have been indefinitely postponed. One Chicago death notice listed the name of every cat the deceased had ever owned the pace in volume of misinformation about the current viruses. Unlike anything we've seen before in this fraught political climate with some promoting skepticism about the severity of the epidemic. Maureen O'Donnell an obituary writer at the Chicago Sun. Times has received notes from readers questioning whether her story subjects really died of cove nineteen. She's he's her role as bearing witness to what's happening. In our country and many newsrooms including the globe the Washington Post in the Seattle Times reporters from different sections have been reassigned to the task of capturing stories of the dead the Seattle Times which covers one of the first communities hit by the contagion had no full-time obituary writer. They put someone onto the beat to give more prominence to the human toll. This was taking obituary. Writers have always had to make difficult decisions picking and choosing whom to write about among so many dead fielding requests to write about Cove Nineteen Victims Maureen in Chicago who's tried to capture a range of lives from Amelia Punt Ereli Matriarch of an Italian Deli in the windy city to the internationally acclaimed singer Songwriter. John Prime the scale of death in this moment reminds some of the longtime obituary writers of the aftermath of September eleventh or the AIDS epidemic in the nineteen eighties. John Pope who contributes to the Times Picayune in New Orleans remembers writing back then about people who didn't know who might die next for maids and whether they would to be struck down by that new then little understood virus. John says that with the Karenna virus sorrow and anxiety. John is also tried to ride about a cross section of society like a sixty three year old community college educator who started a Resource Center for women and quietly supported needy students for decades paying their bus passes and text books out of her own pocket. John says he's never had so much response online. Doing Obituary as he did for that one. There's so much love for this woman. Among people that she helped over the years her name was melanie. Deafen dull here are a few other faces of the fallen. Larry nokes a Maryland nursing. Assistant was put on a ventilator after testing positive for the virus. He woke up from a coma a week later to find that the contagion had taken his wife of twenty four years. Minett she was seventy one. Larry died eight days after she did after asking medical staff to let him sign a. Do not resuscitate order. He was sixty. Nine Leroy tonic senior. A ninety six year old World War Two veteran and his sixty four year. Old Son Leroy Tonic. Junior both died from the virus days apart in separate nursing homes Belly Mahinda. A British rail worker died after being spat upon by a man who said he had the virus. The forty seven year old leaves behind an eleven year old daughter. Authorities are looking into the attack. Joyce Lynn an American missionary pilot died in a plane crash. While trying to deliver corona virus testing kits to a remote village in Indonesia. She was a native of Maryland and she was forty years old. And that's the big idea. Here are three other headlines that should be on your radar number one Federal Reserve Chair. Jerome Powell gave a dire warning yesterday that the US economy could become stuck in a painful multiyear recession. If Congress and the White House do not authorize more aid to address the pandemic economic fallout Palestine and a video conference that additional fiscal support could be costly but worth it if it avoids a long term depression pal. Statement was a sharp departure from the optimism trump and some senior administration officials at touted in recent days as suggested a dramatic economic rebound will occur later this year in pick up more momentum and twenty twenty one Powell who was appointed by the President says he's concerned about a domino effect. Were consumers lose jobs and then sharply? Cut Spending that in turn can cause more restaurants gyms and other businesses to close companies. That go out of business stopped paying their suppliers which then dragged down other more than twenty seven million. Americans are now out of work. A growing number of companies or going bankrupt or closing permanently a trend economist ward only intensifies the slowdown drags out. Lawmakers are now in a standoff with the President about next steps both Democrats and Republicans have expressed agreement. That more should be done. But there's overlap between their priorities house. Democrats proposed a three trillion dollar package this week. That could provide another round of stimulus checks and massive aid to states in cities but Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell. The Republican from Kentucky immediately declared that dead on arrival Republicans in some trump officials are under pressure to approve more spending but also slowdown down while they wait to see whether the existing programs are having any impact. Powell said that low income Americans are facing the brunt of this crisis and they have the least ability to handle it. He said a fed survey. That's GONNA come out later. This week will show that almost forty percent of US households making less than forty thousand dollars a year lost a job in March number to the Wisconsin. Supreme Court's Conservative majority sided with Republican legislators last night and struck down the decision by Democratic governor. Tony Iverson Administration to extend the state's stay at home order. The four to three decision limits Iverson's ability to make statewide rules during emergencies instead requiring him to work with the state legislature on how they should handle. The outbreak together. Condemned the decision saying that. Wisconsin was in a pretty good place but now quote Republican legislators convinced four justices to throw our state into chaos everts issued a stay at home order in March to slow the spread but as the April twenty four th end date approached. He extended the order until May twenty sixth. The court order ended it effective immediately and there are pictures from Wisconsin of hundreds of people at bars around the state drinking and not social. Distancing Corona virus cases have been on the rise in Wisconsin with nearly eleven thousand confirmed infections and four hundred twenty one deaths local officials in the liberal city of Madison as well as the blue counties of Dane and Milwaukee rushed last night to issue their own. Stay at home. Orders through the end of the month to replace the state order. A Marquette University pulled this week shows that seventy percent of adults in the Badger state support. Iverson's stay at home. Order but support has been plummeting among Republicans number three rick. Bright the government's former top vaccine official who was removed from his post last month will testify before Congress later today that the United States faces the darkest winter in modern history if it does not develop a more coordinated national response to the corona virus. Before an expected resurgence of new cases. Later this year in prepared testimony submitted to a House subcommittee bright plans to say quote. Our window of opportunity is closing. If we fail to develop a national coordinated response based in science. I fear the pandemic will get far worse and be prolonged causing unprecedented illness in fatalities while it's terrifying to college. The extent of the challenge that we currently confront the undeniable fact. Is there will be a resurgence of Kovic? Nineteen this fall greatly compounding the challenges of seasonal influenza and putting an unprecedented strain on our healthcare system without clear planning and implementation of the steps that I other experts at outlined. Twenty twenty will be the darkest winter in modern history. The first priority he says is being truthful with the American people bright. The former director of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority was removed on April twentieth. After having served in the position for nearly four years he was demoted to a narrower role at the National Institutes of Health. Last week he filed an eighty nine page whistleblower complaint in which he writes that he was pressured by trump political appointees to make harmful drugs widely available including Corcoran and Hydroxy Clark which trump had repeatedly heralded. He says the trump administration still lacks any national testing strategy and needs to ramp up production dramatically of essential equipment and supplies. Bright also notes that he clashed with his boss. Hhs Assistant Secretary. Bob Catholic for at least two years. He alleges in the complaint that Catholic and others pressured him to buy drugs and medical products for the nation stockpile of emergency medical equipment from companies that were linked politically to the administration including donors. He's turnover emails to show that he resisted such efforts a spokeswoman for the trump administration replied in a statement that they are deeply disappointed that bright has not shown up to work in the lower level job that he was pushed into at an age. And that's the daily to to for Thursday may fourteenth. Thanks for listening. I'm James Hillman. Stay safe I'll talk to you tomorrow.

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Back to School?, Grocery Prices Rise & Facebook Avatars (+ Mental Health During a Pandemic)- Thursday, May 14th, 2020

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18:16 min | 5 months ago

Back to School?, Grocery Prices Rise & Facebook Avatars (+ Mental Health During a Pandemic)- Thursday, May 14th, 2020

"Today is Thursday may fourteenth. We're talking about President. Trump's pushed to get kids back to school and the reason a top public health expert says not to rush it also prices at the grocery store. Going up we'll tell you why and by how much plus take part in a covert nineteen genetic study. Create your own Avatar on facebook and go to some of America's most popular parks as they start to reopen then hang up after the news for Thursday's bonus interview about our mental health during a pandemic welcome welcome to the newsworthy. All the day's news in in less than ten minutes fast they're fun and on the go America Mandy. Thanks so much for being here. You're ready. Let's do this. Millions of Americans are setting aside their cove in nineteen years and venturing back out into the world on an average day last week the New York Times found twenty five million. More people left their homes than in the previous six weeks. The Times analyzed cellphone data and found the same results in nearly every part of the country. Of course many people did not have a choice. Dozens of states have been lifting corona virus related restrictions and allowing businesses to reopen. So more Americans have been forced to decide whether to go to work and risk their health or stay home and lose their jobs. President trump and other trump administration officials say we do need to look at the economy and the quality of life for People. In fact trump is getting more insistent. That states need to reopen. He took issue with what one of his top health advisor said this week. Remember infectious disease. Expert Dr Anthony. Fauci had warned about new outbreaks popping up if lockdowns were lifted too quickly and without proper measures in place also cautioned against sending kids back to school too early saying well cove in nineteen doesn't seem to affect children severely. We have to be careful when it comes to kids lives. And there's a lot about this virus we still don't know but the president pushback sing felt. She is not giving acceptable answer and is trying to play all sides of the equation. Trump says the Ron virus has had little impact on young people and the economy cannot rebound if schools are closed so he called on governors to open them as quickly as possible. Cdc Data does show adults over sixty. Five are the ones more frequently hospitalized for Cova. Nineteen and children experiencing milder complications at the same time as Dr Phil mentioned. There's a lot more research needed. And here's one big example of that New York and fourteen other states are now investigating mysterious illness in children that might be linked to cove in nineteen. Doctors aren't really sure yet. But here's what they do know so far. It's an inflammatory syndrome. Much like Kawasaki. Disease which can be deadly. They're eighty two confirmed cases of this mysterious illness in New York City alone of those mayor. Bill de Blasio says fifty three of the kids had tested positive for Cova nineteen antibodies. So it at least seems the kids might be a rare complication. Cove in nineteen either way. It's important to catch this early. Symptoms include fever abdominal pain a skin rash and either a racing or slowing heartbeat. Many healthcare providers have been alerted to this so they know what to look for and research is underway around the world. The Wisconsin Supreme Court just overturned the State. Stay at home order. The Democratic governor had tried to extend the order to May twenty sixth but the Republican led legislature arguing. It would cost too many people. Their jobs ultimately the state's highest court ruled the order is unlawful and unenforceable. Wisconsin's governor responded saying now we have no plan. It's the wild west. By the way there have been legal challenges and a few other states but far. Wisconsin is the first state where the court completely struck down the stay at home order. Us government is now investigating whether the Chinese government is trying to steal America's research about the new corona virus the FBI and Homeland Security Department are looking into potential data breaches and the trump administration is urging healthcare and pharmaceutical companies to tighten up their cybersecurity defences. Now they say a hack could jeopardize the future of treatments and even a vaccine. Why is this happening? Well just like the rest of the world. China is looking to develop a vaccine. The difference though is that the Justice Department believes China wants to steal ideas to get ahead of other countries in response to Chinese state. Run newspaper said the. Us government has quote totally lost their minds. The Federal Reserve chairman is pushing Congress to provide more relief money or risk permanently damaging the economy. Of course. This comes after lawmakers already passed trillions of dollars in economic aid over the past few months. But the next round of relief seems to be on hold for now. The latest bills up for debate don't seem to stand a chance in video conference with an economic think tank Fed chairman. Jerome Powell said Congress can put money directly in Americans hands and into American businesses. The Fed has also helped though by slashing interest rates to near zero and implementing nine emergency lending programs with the Treasury Department. So we'll Powell consider dropping interest rates below zero which by the way would mean lower mortgage and credit card rates for everyday Americans but also lower returns on savings for now. Powell Says No. He's not considering. That rosaries are apparently getting more and more expensive. In April food prices saw their highest month-to-month jump in more than forty six years. The Labor Department reports the price of meat poultry fish eggs went up the most by nearly four and a half percent followed by nearly three percent hike in the price of cereal and baked goods. Even produce prices rose by one and a half percent. So why is this happening to put it simply it has to do with supply and demand? Demand is up since stay at home. Order suddenly had people eating all their meals at home. Some Americans rushed to the grocery stores instead of restaurants at the same time producers and farmers did not have the ability to shift their food deliveries that quickly supply also heard from cove in nineteen outbreaks among workers at some meat processing plants. Also Americans were panic buying items so stores had to increase prices to keep more in stock. Even though groceries are getting more expensive right now overall consumer prices are down mostly due to falling gas prices. We have more news ahead but first. Thanks to our sponsor this week net gear. 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Genetic testing is hoping to find out how DNA plays a role in cove in one thousand nine symptoms. Twenty three and me wants to recruit up to ten people who had such a severe case of nineteen to the hospital. The study hopes to identify genetic differences to help explain why some patients get critically ill and others don't even have symptoms. Sometimes an entire family ends up in the hospital while another family down the street can live with the virus and not know it so scientists hope to find specific gene that determines or strongly influences those effects then they could potentially be able to warn people even come up with specific treatments for them so if you tested positive for cove in nineteen and were hospitalized for it. The DNA tests are being offered for free by the WAY ANCESTRY DOT COM is also working to research genetics. It said last week. More than two and fifty thousand of its customers had already stepped up to participate. It's not clear yet. How many of them had cove in nineteen or how many had been hospitalize stay tuned for any interesting results from either one? Amazon is calling on Congress to make price gouging a federal crime at least during national emergencies it published an open letter to lawmakers yesterday saying too many people are trying to take advantage of the corona virus pandemic. Apparently a lot of people are hoarding necessities. Like hand sanitizer and face masks then trying to sell them on Amazon. At hiked up prices Amazon has banned about four thousand sellers so far and removed half a million listings but the company says these people should suffer legal consequences on the federal level right now. The laws vary state by State. So some people aren't necessarily held accountable. Tvd takes this up to be clear. Lawmakers have criticized Amazon in the past for not doing enough about price gouging. So it's at least something on their radar. Spoke is rolling out customizable avatars in the US. They're basically stickers that look like you with your same hairstyle complexion in clothing style. The avatars can then be used in comments stories or FACEBOOK MESSENGER THOUGH. This is not a totally new idea. People have been using avatars for awhile now. Using APPs like Emoji or apples memo g to make your own in facebook just head to the comment composer or messenger and tap the Smiley Button. Then click the sticker tab and shoes create your Avatar. Facebook is launching the feature now with a gradual roll out to user from national parks to theme parks. Things are slowly getting back to business. For example. Universal Orlando's district will partially reopen today. The theme park resort is leading about half a dozen restaurants and a few shops open. Their doors visitors will still have to wear face masks and be checked for fevers anyone with a temp above one hundred point four. We'll be turned away. Disneyworld also plans to reopen some third party shops and restaurants next week. Also of the Grand Canyon will partially reopen tomorrow and Yellowstone will open on a limited basis on Monday but only the south and east parts of the National Park in Wyoming the parts. In Idaho and Montana we'll stay close and that's for the news today but now it's time for to Thursday or a different expert explains a different thing to know only Thursdays after the news and this week we're talking about mental health not only may mental health awareness month but there are now some concerning statistics about what's happening during this pandemic for example a recent. Kaiser Family Foundation poll found nearly half of all Americans say the pandemic is harming their mental health. In some way and crisis lines are reporting significant increases in calls in fact a federal emergency line saw a one thousand percent increase in April compared to the same time just last year so joining me to talk about. What's happening what we can do about. It is licensed therapist Katie Morton. She not only runs a private practice in California but she also reaches a worldwide audience through her youtube channel with nearly a million subscribers and she wrote the book are you okay a guide to caring for your mental health. So here's our conversation about mental health during a pandemic. Hi Katie. Thanks so much for coming on the newsworthy. Yeah thanks for having me so first. What's your reaction to these types of statistics that we're hearing right now to be honest. I'm not surprised. Were stuck in this stress response. I mean all of us. I think would admit even if we didn't have a mental health issue prior to this. We're feeling a little bit more anxious a little bit more stressed out and worried and so it's no wonder that we're finding those rates. Go Up. This has been going on for much longer than most of US anticipated and not. Everybody knows how to cope with that. So what are a couple of the main issues first of all? This is nothing we've experienced before so I think the unknown is really really scary for people and the most common things that I'm hearing from my audience and patients alike are just the worry thoughts. I think we can all agree that we're worried about today tomorrow. A year from now and those worry thoughts. I mean if you don't know generalized anxiety disorder is diagnosed by the uncontrollable worry. Like no matter. What we do we just keep worrying and you think a lot of us would admit that we're feeling that right now and so. That's probably the most common symptom as well as My patients who tend to be more on the depressed side are struggling to have hope for the future. Because we don't know what's going to happen and I think that's the main issue when it comes to this this particular pandemic this particular issue is. We're learning new things every day so we don't always feel like we have all the information needed to figure that out to feel okay to be able to soothe ourselves and say it's going we're going to get through this a lot of us worry about not being able to. I've heard the analogy that you can push yourself during a marathon or something because you know where the end is. We don't really know the end is with this. How much of an impact does that have? I believe it's making it like twice as bad like you know when you're doing a workout new like ten more and you're like I could do ten more but if they don't say anything you might stop early you're like I just can't keep doing this. And so my worry about the lake not knowing when it's going to end not knowing the future in a very dark view. I think we'll see suicide rates. Go up which I know. Sounds TERRIBLE. But it's just a reality and something that we should be aware of. We should check in on people in our lives But also I think it leads to increased anxiety and panic attacks right. Because we don't have the wherewithal to say you know what they said in two weeks. We'll be okay can just hang on 'til then so it just this extended period of feeling unsure and uneasy can can exacerbate all the things we've been talking about and curious your take on guilt in comparison about how bad it is. I think if I'm having a bad day I I'm like well I still have my job. At least I still have my health so I feel guilty for having a bad day. What do you say about that? Yeah I've been feeling that too like hey I haven't lost anybody. How dare I even feel anything? That's akin to saying because they're starving kids in some other parts of the world that it's not okay for me to Sam full and throw out that last night or something and I think one of my favorite quotes is comparison is the thief of joy. And I know that that doesn't apply directly to this. Oh it's taking away. The joy but comparison is never helpful. Someone's always going to have it worse. That doesn't negate how you feel just because someone else is going through tough situation doesn't mean that you don't have the right to feel upset. Are there any less obvious side effects? I know I've heard people talk about. I'm just have less energy or I can't be productive. That sort of thing yeah. Concentration difficulties are huge. And that's actually one of the most overlooked symptoms of things like depression anxiety and I think a lot of us. Because we're in this heightened stress response our body is like primed for fight flight freeze but instead of being able to do anything right because the the threat is a invisible virus. We feel stressed. All Day long hyper vigilant may be you know an on edge and so of course. We're not able to do as much as we used to do. We may be can't remember what we just read and also we can be tired by like two. Pm Every day yeah. So let's talk about tips and tricks to handle some of what we're feeling right now. Can you go through a few of the main things that you're telling people right now? The one thing that we do know is that true connection with people in our lives in person is the real antidote to that stress. Response that we're experiencing so if we can safely and selectively do that. I think we'll all feel a little bit better if you're not able to leave right now and do that like selective engagement. The Zoom facetime phone calls texting. That will do. It's not ideal but it will do And then another is just having some kind of structure to your day. I doesn't mean we have to have twenty five things on our to do list. I'm talking like two or three things like I get up around this time. Let's say between like I duNno eight. Am Ten NAM. Depending on how you are your morning person or not and then I make myself breakfast. I have my coffee and then I make time during the day for some kind of movements exercise having some kind of structure to it and then I stopped work at like six. Pm let's say keeping that structure will keep us kind of going and give us some kind of beginning middle and end to our day so it's kind of important to keep that And then distract when you need to. If you find yourself worrying and inspiring into the whole my God. I don't know what about this. And what about my grandma and then my friend? You need to start doing that. Trust me. I've been there too It's completely okay to to get up to move around to organize something I mean. I think that's why people were making banana. Bread and sourdot starters. It's really just a way to distract and there is a place in time for that to And then the final is something that I've been kind of going through this week. I guess is just allowing yourself to grieve. It's okay to feel sad. It's okay to feel upset about this The more we fight it the more out of control. Those feelings can be so. I've been setting aside the sound really weird by setting aside like thirty minutes just to feel sad and then I'll make that. I'm going to get up distract Paul myself out of it. I do something else But we don't have to ignore those feelings altogether because they're they're they're real. It's palpable right. Every where so those are just a few ways to kind of get yourself on track and keep you feeling your best final takeaway for the audience or anything else you want to add. I think my last thing is just to be kind and compassionate to yourself and others were all having a hard time If someone seems a little agitated irritable know that it has nothing to do with you. It's all to do with this situation. So breathe be kind. You know I think that that will go a long way and all kind of manage. But we'll get through this and this is the one and only time where we are literally all in this together and you can check. Hiti Morton's Youtube Channel PODCAST and other social media will link them in today's show notes as always you can read more about all the news. Stories mentioned today at the Newsworthy. Dot Com under the episodes tab. Thank you so much for listening. Be Sure to subscribe and share. If you found this episode helpful the newsworthy is here for you by four in the morning every weekday. We'll be back tomorrow with the news. You need to know for Friday and the weekend until then have a great day.

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The CRUSADE Channel Newscast For September 11th 2020

CRUSADE Channel Previews

09:22 min | Last month

The CRUSADE Channel Newscast For September 11th 2020

"Hey folks. It's my church producer, the Shakespeare Radio Film Festival announcing that we're offering the entire festival including Joseph Pierce, his commentaries purchased nineteen dollars ninety five cents. That's a fifty percent discount. This exclusive download will include over sixteen hours a festival content to reserve your Shakespeare Radio Film. Festival download at an incredible fifty percent off go to crusade channel DOT COM. Forward Slash Atlit. Crusade Channel News. News you can trust. Because the truth can be trusted. Traveler Crusade. Channel News Desk. Here's Stacy Co in Good Morning Crusaders Welcome to Friday September Eleventh Twenty twenty I'm Stacey Cohan reporting from the Crusade Channel News Desk at the Cohen Ranch in Winkelmann Arizona. This report is brought to you by McClure tables using Michigan hardwoods in Michigan to make the best made in the USA shuffleboard on the market shuffle on over to McClure tables dot com that's MCC R. E. TABLES DOT COM. Here's what to listen for this hour Americans unite and remember September eleventh more than eight hundred, seventy, five, thousand people are looking for Work Wisconsin's holding absentee ballots, and some of you may disagree, but the United States is dealing with them monkey. On this, day September eleventh two, thousand one America is changed forever when Nineteen Qaeda terrorists in a coordinated attack hijack for passenger jetliners sending two of the planes smashing into New York City's World Trade Center one into the Pentagon and the fourth into a field in Shanksville Pennsylvania resulting in nearly three thousand deaths. The ramifications of the September eleven terror attacks are still unfolding to this day and the. Sacrifices in heroism deserve honoring in those days. There were few Republicans and few Democrats instead there were Americans people came together in common purpose to console, rebuild and defend the nation. It's been a long time. Nearly a quarter of Americans living today hadn't even been born yet. Yet. The nation should still unite for this day at least in memory and in resolve to ensure the horror is never repeated. Although the nation is partially recovering from its steepest ever recession amid the covid nineteen pandemic businesses continue to lay off hundreds of thousands of workers as they grapple with fewer sales and depleted federal aid more than eight, hundred, Fifty, seven, thousand Americans filed first-time applications for unemployment insurance a rough measure of layoffs last week up about twenty thousand from the previous week. The Labor Department said, Thursday J. P. Morgan had estimated eight hundred. Fifty thousand people would be seeking benefits. The figures aren't seasonally adjusted either more than fifty five million workers have filed for benefits over the past six months while the weekly figures have trended down since peaking at six point, two, million in early spring. Here's just a little perspective. The previous all-time high for weekly claims on the non seasonally adjusted basis was about one million during a recession in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, two. Attorneys found seven bodies in northern California Thursday as firefighters battled multiple ravaging wildfires raising the total number of victims in the state to ten at least five others have been killed in Washington state and Oregon this week amid a series of of control wildfires. The deadly fast moving wildfires ravaging across multiple west coast states on Thursday have forced about five hundred thousand people in Oregon to flee their homes as the wildfires have left at least eight people dead in California Washington. State and Oregon this sweet and they were ravaging out of control Thursday despite firefighters efforts firefighters from around the US were called to help contain the massive. As of Thursday more than one hundred wildfires across twelve western states have burned more than four point three million acres. That's nearly seven thousand square miles or roughly the size. Of New. Jersey. Coming up are sane of the day they were martyred. Brothers traditionally thought to be Romans. They were servants in the House of Saint Philip who were arrested and executed for being Christians quoted the day our Lord wills that you cling to him alone if your faith were greater, how much more peaceful you would be even when great trial surrounding oppress you Saint Paula Frison Eddie. You're listening to Crusade Channel News. Hi I'm Barbara. Dooley and I'm excited to share some great news for my friends at bulldog. You can buy new Kia online and have it delivered straight to your home right now, twenty twenty, Kia soul is our only fifteen thousand, nine, hundred dollars at bulldog in Athens. That's right. 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Their acts is considered very unreliable although the relics of Saint Hyacinthe known to be entirely authentic were found in eighteen forty five in the cemetery of Saint Bacilli Rome this. called. His now confined local calendars both martyrs were buried in the same crip Pope Damascus the I wrote an epitaph in honor the two martyrs part of which still exists in the epitaph. Pope Damasus calls Protestant Hyacinth Brothers when Pope Leo the fourth transferred the bones of a large number of Roman martyrs to the Churches of Rome the relics of these saints were to be translated also, but probably on account of the devastation of the burial chamber. Of Saint Protus was found, his bones were transferred to San Salvatore on the Palatine Hill. The remains of Saint Hyacinthe were placed in the chapel of the Propaganda College. Later, the tombs of the two saints in a stairway built at the end of the fourth century were discovered and then restored. Senate Democrats Thursday blocked Corona Virus Stimulus bill that included funds for people left unemployed by the pandemic in a party line vote Democrats withheld the sixty votes needed to consider the bill continuing months-long gridlock ahead of Election Day Republican leaders said, the bill included widely supported bipartisan ideas but Democrats argued, it didn't do enough. The failure of the bill creates new turbulence for the Unemployed Democrats want to renew a six hundred dollar weekly supplement that expired in July trump and August signed an executive order allowing a four hundred dollar weekly boost if states would ship in one hundred bucks, but those funds are almost exhausted. The Wisconsin Supreme Court told election officials across the state Thursday a week before the deadline to mail ballots that they can't mail out absentee ballots until the court decides whether to add the Green party's presidential ticket to the ballot. The September seventeenth deadline for when the one thousand eight, hundred, fifty municipal clerks need to mail out absentee ballots to Wisconsin voters who asks for one is set. In State Law, the four to three decision by the Wisconsin Supreme Court was split among partisan lines with all four consecutive justices agreeing that the process of mailing ballots must be paused while the three liberal justices descended the possible inclusion of Green Party presidential candidate Howie Hawkins on the general election ballot could tip the scales of a razor thin contests between trump and democratic nominee Joe Biden. What critical to the development of a corona virus vaccine? The scientific community is facing a monkey shortage before the drug companies call on human volunteers, monkeys are used in pre clinical trials to test a vaccine safety and effectiveness but with more than one hundred vaccines in development around the world, there aren't enough monkeys to go around look some of you may disagree with that. I know a few non human primate research centers have been strained in recent years because of restrictions on imported monkeys from countries like China and India and lack of funding to support domestic breeding while animal rights advocates condemn using primates in experiments researchers say it's essential for development of medical science. Send me your news tips to news at Crusade Channel Dot Com. Stay tuned to the crusade channel with live breaking news updates all day the best life talk radio anywhere up next the Mike. Church. Show continues I'm Stacey Cohan for the crusade channel seeking news and finding truth.

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Ep. 212 - This is not how a democracy works

The Breakdown with Shaun King

11:04 min | 6 months ago

Ep. 212 - This is not how a democracy works

"It's hard to really fully understand the size and scope of a storm when you're living right in the middle of it. The United States is the epicenter of the Corona virus pandemic and the storm. It's brought is exposing just how fraudulent art democracy truly as for my entire life. The United States is aimed police and monitor the world but now that our proverbial ads showing is the United States that really need some type of international monitoring or intervention. I WanNa tell you what really happened in Milwaukee yesterday. We thought this was going to happen. But it's way worse than we expected. Also have a very important update on a juvenile prison. A child prison in Louisiana where Corona virus pandemic is starting right there inside the jail. This is Shaun King and you are listening to the the the break down breakdown of a breakdown while New York City is no doubt the hardest hit city in the entire world by the corona virus. Wisconsin is now ground zero for the criminal impact on our democracy. I don't know if you've seen or heard the numbers from yesterday. They just came in. But what happened? In Milwaukee in Wisconsin should render yesterday's elections there null and void and even though the final blame no doubt goes to Republicans so many people failed to stop that election yesterday in Wisconsin. I WanNa tell you the numbers. They're appalling could very well be. I think the single most blatant case of voter suppression since Jim Crow yesterday in Milwaukee. Let me explain to you. Eighteen thousand eight hundred. Three people voted in person. Now the city has nearly six thousand. Six hundred thousand residents eighteen thousand eight hundred and three people voted that is less than three percent of the total population. The guess how. Many people voted in person in two thousand sixteen. A hundred and ninety thousand. That's a ninety percent reduction in the blackest city in the state. Milwaukee normally has two hundred different voting locations yesterday as people waited in line in the hail and rain up to five hours to vote Milwaukee. The entire city had just five voting locations. Citywide Madison Wisconsin. Which is half the size of Milwaukee had sixty six voting locations yesterday but Milwaukee had five in only eighteen. Thousand people voted down from a hundred and ninety thousand. That wasn't a horrible accident. Mayors public health officials all over the state called for the election to be rescheduled weeks ago. They called for it to be rescheduled. Last week. They called for it to be rescheduled all weakened this past weekend they called for it to be a vote by mail only election but in the crucial weeks leading up to the election. The Governor of Wisconsin. Good man a Democrat stalled and stuttered waiting to the very last minute to try to call it off. Joe Biden who is the leading Democrat in the race also refused to advocate for it being delayed in fact. He advocated for it to continue up until the day before the election weeks ago the DNC privately threatened to take delegates away from states if they delayed their elections then when the governor finally decided to issue emergency order to halt the elections his republican state legislature at the very last minute overturned him the conservative Wisconsin Supreme Court and the conservative United States Supreme Court. Right down party lines than agreed with the conservative state legislature there Wisconsin and said the elections. Yesterday there had to continue and they did in keeping the election the way they did had the exact impact conservatives hoped it would have voting in Milwaukee was basically suppressed so badly that it functioned only like a small town yesterday. More people in my neighborhood in Brooklyn vote in elections than voted yesterday in all of Milwaukee. I mean that literally and it wasn't just the presidential primary that's going to suffer conservatives in the state hardly care about the presidential primaries. Wisconsin yesterday had essential statewide elections including Supreme Court seats on the ballot in with what happened yesterday in Milwaukee Conservatives. No doubt got exactly what they wanted. And at this point we have to ask ourselves a tough question. Are these elections even legitimate? What happened in Milwaukee Dam? Sure wasn't legitimate. No single sincere person could thanks so in yet. The United States in Bolivia and elsewhere have routinely called the elections and other countries invalid. For Way way less I'll never get over the fact that yesterday only three percent of people in Milwaukee voted three percent but the every Wednesday on the breakdown for the Northstar we have a woman crush Wednesday segment. And if you follow the Northstar right now on Instagram at the North Star media. Ucf Brilliant woman crush Wednesday post. We have today but right now ray will tell you all about it. During this woman crush Wednesday series the Northstar is proud to highlight nonprofit founders Shirley Raines. Shirley launched the nonprofit organization beauty to the streets. Three years ago after she spent time volunteering on skid row giving food to people who are homeless while she was volunteering. She received a lot of compliments about her hair. Makeup Shirley realized that homeless people should have more than just the basic necessities. They should be able to get their hair. Washed and cut to Shirley's nonprofit organization continues to feed the homeless and offer showers hair coloring and makeup services when the corona virus pandemic the US Shirley and her team the decision to continue to help the homeless living on Los Angeles's skid row by providing them with food hand sanitizer in Vitamin C. Packets to learn more about Shirley and while we're crushing on her and her nonprofit beauty to the streets head on over to at the North Star media on instagram. To read more about her. Before we go today I have a really disturbing update on the story that we started yesterday yesterday on the last half of the breakdown. I talked about what I think is a a a moment. That's going to boil over and blow up in America's child jails in child prisons. A Noah sounds awful even hear those words but children teenagers all over this country. Tens of thousands of them are currently at this moment in the middle of the pandemic incarcerated children right now and we were speaking yesterday in some ways theoretically about an outbreak that we knew was going to happen it turns out it's already happening right now in. Louisiana. The office of Juvenile Justice confirmed that fifteen kids in their custody have already tested positive. For the corona virus in ten of the kids are being held at one single facility. It's the Bridge City Center for Youth in Jefferson Parish in. This is an outbreak in the making in. If we don't act to protect our kids in New Orleans around the country it all. It's almost certain that we're GonNa see similar stories emerging in the coming weeks and they've already been numerous instances of children in staffers in juvenile detention facilities testing positive and given the lack of access to testing. We know these numbers are probably deeply underreported. If in Louisiana fifteen kids have already tested positive it could be thirty. Fifty one hundred. We have thousands of kids all over the country in juvenile detention facilities. Who HAVE THE CORONA virus? And what we know again that they are at high risk because of the poor medical care. They often receive in these facilities. Listen we broke down so many of the policies and things that can happen but I need you on your own time in your own way to begin. Advocating that children and teenagers in America's jails in prisons be released. What's happening in all of these? Jails in prisons is outrageous in painful. I've said it before. I'll say it again to me. It's a form of genocide that we are keeping people in these jails and prisons where they can't practice social distancing where they don't have access to the proper ways to stay clean and stay safe stay at a distance and here's here's the truth it staff in these jails and prisons that are spreading it not only to the children but among themselves we're seeing at rikers right now and I need you. I know you already have so much on your heart and so much on your mind but I need you to care about what's happening to children in our jails and prisons all over the country. I've gotTA run. It's hard to manage each and every day of our staff of our families. Just WanNa send each and everyone of you. Some extra love hanging in there love you. I believe in you believe in US. Take care everybody breaking the bring them and bring the bring in the break break break break Derek upbringing.

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The Wisconsin Court Decision that is Scaring the Hell out of Democrats

Vicki McKenna

35:19 min | Last month

The Wisconsin Court Decision that is Scaring the Hell out of Democrats

"Broadcasting live from planet. Madison where everything is beyond parody. Is the mechanics show to be a part of the program in Madison called. Thirteen ten statewide call toll free at eight, seven, seven to three, five, thirteen, ten. Now, here's picky. and. Thank. Exceptional Americans and my fellow deplorable. Do. I do just fine. It's Friday. Feels good. Just saying it. The weather is not cooperating certainly it's been what six and a half months since we've seen the sunshine lots of rain. and. If you're looking for a reprieve from that, don't look too soon, there will be sunshine sometime. This weekend asks what the genius is in the forecast lab telling us and we are really hopeful that what they're telling us this time comes to pass. Hi, how are you? I'm kittle I am the executive director of Empower Wisconsin and Wisconsin spotlight power up Wisconsin and empower Wisconsin Dot. Org we are your headquarters for Conservative news thought and. Action. We got a big show today just in case you're scoring along with us at home Vicky. Of course, is not here today she's taking a well deserved break one of the hardest work in human beings in show business, and she'll be back with you on Monday after a little our and our until then it's you and me and are fine producer John and we. are loaded with fantastic guest coming up this hour and first and foremost right around the corner in just a bit. We're celebrating a liberty victory today. If you haven't heard, it's made the news all over the place and he didn't find the story including more analysis at empower. Wisconsin Dot Org the Wisconsin Supreme Court has agreed to hear lawsuits against public health, Madison, and Dane. And Its power hungry director the court also at least for now. ended the order barring in person learning it is a big win for private schools that were forced to close just days before they were set to open in fact. We talked to a school that had already open days before and then had to close down because of this order. What does it mean ultimately obviously, the Supreme Court will decide that in the coming months, but this could have a major impact on curbing curtailing the power of these power grabbing health bureaucrats. We'll talk about that coming up right around the corner also on the big show today the police pledge. Heritage. is calling on elected officials to sign its newly launched police pledge for lawmakers to stand with law enforcers. Noah Weinrich stabs by with more defeats on the pledge coming up right around two thirty or so this afternoon I told you it's an action packed show. Can I jus- close this little segment with a little bit F- leftover from last night's chiefs. Football game. was that okay for you. All right. If you missed really the biggest event of the night is the start of the NFL football season. It's this. Let me tell you something. My Fine Americans I stand with every buoy out there who booed this stuff that's being forced down our throats once again, and when all we WANNA do is escape all of this insanity and watch a damn football game. So to the NFL I say once again, bomb. You Suck. Pardon my language. We'll be back in just a bit to get the show started with conversation about a big liberty victory next on the Vicki mechanics show. Giving it Leo Enright, the victim the cannon show with Yours Truly Matt. Kettle. Thanks for being here with us on this Friday afternoon. Got Busy show going to get to in just a moment. Just tell you also what we have coming up. Of course this is the day the world stops September eleven two, thousand one hard to believe. It's nineteen years ago today that we're coming up on the twentieth anniversary a couple of questions will lead to ask we'll get to later in the show. And that is first and foremost. Where were you on this day I clearly can tell you I have every last minute of that day pretty much marked in my mind and I know a lot of folks do and also at a difference nineteen years make. Remember how much America revered police after nine eleven. You remember. Your remember the NYPD, hats all of that and sad to think where we are in. America today will dwell on that just a bit coming up as well in the three o'clock hour I'll tell you what the folks over in Madison the bureaucrats, the unelected bureaucrats, the radical left leaders of the Jope parise. As the mayor's sock as they're just beside themselves today too. So angry and upset. That's what it is. They're very upset because they didn't get their way at the Supreme Court at least for now, the Supreme Court has put an injunction on the power grabbing director of the Madison Dane County. Health Department said No. At this point while we hear this case, you can't close down all the schools to in person learning. More than that. We think there are very good merits in the parts of a number of plaintiffs who filed a lawsuit to open their school's back again and get control back into the hands of parents and families not unelected bureaucrats. We are very pleased to have with us on the Vicki mcadoo showed this afternoon one of the attorneys representing one of the plaintiffs Joe Royle Lind joins. US, as well as Angela Heinlein of Saint Ambrose Catholic school remember Saint. Ambrose they put the word out quickly when this thing went down, they raised a lot of money in a very short period of time to protect the rights of their families and their students, and we're going to break it all down for you to both of you. Thank you for being here I certainly do. It thanks thanks for having US you bet. Joe Congratulations to you. This is a big victory. You told me last night you'd spent four months. This is light in the darkness. What does it all mean if I can get that from you first from the legal side of things? Joe. I'm sorry. Let's take that again that we were having a little technical difficulty what is the court's ruling mean in terms of what happens next as we were talking yesterday and I was as I was reading the court's decision. There are some very hopeful signs for private schools in those who want to see a return to in-person person classes this year. Well Thank you for having me on the show As you mentioned there are hopeful signs about private schools getting back to in person learning not just private schools but. As. Well I think that the court reasoning and the law. Would apply. To public schools in the same way that would apply to private schools at at least at this point there may be additional arguments that people that parents and students in private schools. will have in. There are some additional arguments that they have going back in person, but the reasoning given by the court in its order yesterday granting the injunction. Would would apply to public schools as well. Now, of course, the public schools. Have the layer of the school board. And the school board would need to allow the. Learning. at the same time but there's no reason why the court's ruling yesterday would not apply equally to public school and the court clearly said in its ruling and this is I think the point that it needs to be driven home is that the plaintiffs have a great deal of merit. And a great sense to succeed in their arguments that that's what the court said so. For those who are concerned that might just be a two month reprieve if you will. There's a lot of. Them in this order in the language, it was written by the majority. Well in the timing as well man. The court. Studying immediate hearing on the case the court didn't order expedited briefing. The courts at the. Sixty days after the sixty days then presumably, there would be an argument. Then there'd be a court decision. So there's going to be a substantial amount of time between now and when the court actually. Enters its ultimate ruling. My hope is that means The court ruling is going to be broader than about private schools going to be bothered than about school. It's going to be about what we wanted to be about, which is the power of government. To restrict cry choice that's for schools, parents, students, businesses, bars, churches. Fourteen. the order that's put into place. By this one individuals you know Hinrichs the health officer. Is Far exceed any power that she has or that she could have. over the activities of everyday living of everybody who lives in. Madison County and you her order doesn't apply only the people who live in Madison. County. It applies to anybody who steps foot in Madison or Dane County anybody who wants to. Go to Capitol anybody who wants to go to a restaurant or bar anybody who wants to do anything inside of anywhere in Dane County is subject to this one individuals on check order, and that's going to be presenting to the court that this one individual who is elected by nobody and accountable to nobody cannot have power over anybody. To do anything or anything. Let's let's Badger fans where they live this unelected bureaucrat has the power to say whether you get to go to a Badger football game or not, and I think that that's in the minds of a lot of people. But you know in the main, let's talk about the primary points of life and that's an education and parents deciding that Angela. You told me all along as you've gone through this legal battle. That's what it boils down to is that this is again an unelected bureaucrat who has taken away the voice in the freedom of individuals to choose how their children are educated Oh. Yeah. You know here's the thing the burden of. Necessary Care for children is on the parent legally by the law and the State of Wisconsin and that is food. Shelter clothing and education. So we as parents we have that burden and so for. Public Health Madison Dane County to usurp our rights and also to put us in positions where we might be actually forced to neglect our children their safety. This is absolutely not okay Parents. Parents know their children best. We know what's going to keep them safe and secure and stable our schools. This whole time it's really been about choice. We are offering a virtual learning option for those parents that need that. But there are so many families out there and I've I've told you stories of families. You know kids that are gonNA have to eat their lunch outside of a public library because. There's no Internet at home in the parent has to work you know public health Madison Dane County does not have a window into every single home in the state, the Dane County, and to be able to be certain absolutely certain that children are safe. So we as schools who are frontline with these families rate we are their front line support to to our parents. We're absolutely essential. We served them they tell us what they need and we offer them the choice because we know they know best. So you know I'm just so grateful to the to the Supreme Court for seeing the harm. For seeing the harm and calling it out and delivering this injunction so that the rights can be put right back into the hands of parents where they ought to be. I should say the Conservatives on this court dead of course, every liberal on this court ruled alongside the usual suspects and the unelected bureaucrats the big government types and their arguments are interesting to get to that point in just a minute. But I'd be remiss if I ask Angela and then I'll ask you the same of your client. What is next because? It's over for right now that order that health order barring person schooling is done. What a Saint Ambrose at intend to do in the coming days starts in person soon. Yeah. School starts. With two. and. I'm going to repeat that we this this order did not ban virtual learning and this this is about the injunction is about giving parents the choice. So Saint Ambrose Academy, we'll do what we had originally planned to do. We will give our parents that and starting Monday for those parents that need in person education they will be able to bring their kids to school. To learn in person for our families that want to continue a virtually, they'll be able to do that. We are fully set up the following all the guidelines. And we're ready to, go. The guidelines it should be pointed out going as far as to leasing new property that would allow the spacing that this health department said was so urgent one thing the Health Department of course has missed along the way that's important to point out is the CDC's own warning saying if you go through another several months of keeping these kids and lockdown that's going to have a an extremely deleterious effect on their minds, their mindset and they're learning overall Joe. Let me ask you what is your client saying what's what's their school set to do? Are they going to reopen as well soon or are there some who are concerned? Maybe the Supreme Court. Give and they take it away. Well. I'm Brad I'm glad you brought it back to her because I think one of the primary point due to take from this is that do not mess with all of the mothers out there. More. People driving this case now in this challenged order number nine, and by the way order number nine is no better than order number eight, order number seven and none of those orders. Orders are all equally in Dallas Yeah it's just as is just as bad as John. Lennon and Yoko Ono's number nine. Revolution, which was the worst song on on the white album of all time. I'm sorry had interject go ahead Sir your. The prior orders are no better than what our number nine. But what you ran into here is you ran into two mothers who weren't GonNa take it anymore. So primary takeaway from this is number one do not mess with all the mothers out there. number two do not rely on someone else. To do your work for you I do hear a lot. I get a lot of messages online through facebook or through. The Internet, I get a lot of messages they were counting on you. You know do everything you can listen do not rely on someone else to do this for you because the case may come down to just about. These particular schools plaintiffs that are at issue in the case I hope not like I talked about earlier, I hope that we can get a broader ruling from the court. But. One thing that you saw matt is, as you know, we filed a very similar case on behalf of them some parents from Milwaukee you bet back in July and you're the only person to report it the the court refused to take the case the shortfall. On that case, it was only one family that was going to the court to ask for relief Here we have strength in numbers we have virtually every private school in the city of math. Yeah. In the city of Madison Dane County has. All of these parents and all of these mothers who have had it So there's power numbers and that's something that we need that we need to learn that even when it comes to something that is as a particular as the law, there's power in numbers. The left doesn't just go around and that one dumpster fire. Okay. They all set. Their own dumpster fire, they all go after what they need to go after and we need to do the same thing So anybody else out there that has their rights restricted by order number nine or any of the other orders out there whether it's in being county in the city of Milwaukee, which are the two places that still have these Oppressive oppressive orders in place. you need to take action on will be happy to help you but you need to take your own actions. You need to speak not just speak up and be a keyboard warrior. You need to put your name on the paper and you need to to take actual action. Yeah. I, think I think that's I think that says it all really you have to act. It can't be just you know talk anymore and and you're right a lot of mothers a lot of fathers and a lot of families got together and set enough is enough and and that's where we're at today. I, wish we had more time I'm afraid we don't. We've got to make space for our next guest, but I certainly do appreciate your time congratulations on this victory. The broader victory could be the checking of these. Bureaucrats throughout the state that believe me excuse my turn of phrase here but that scares the living hell out of them what is going on the supreme? Court right now keep up the good work. Thanks to you both I appreciate it. Thank you so much. Absolutely Angela Highland who is Part of the same and Browse Academy School System, and also a parent of students, and of course, Joe Boylan, who's an attorney representing plaintiffs. In this case, we'll continue to follow on the Vicki mechanics show more to come straight ahead. This is ninety nine. The German version is ninety nine red balloons balloons. Going by kettle here you are there. It's Vicki mechanics show I'm glad you are just a footnote to what we were discussing before the state. 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Oh, one only at the home depot how doers get more done register now at homedepot dot com slash workshops. Supreme Court. Decision in the order now putting an injunction. On the overreaching health order by Madison. Dane County Health that to close down all schools including private schools. The Supreme Court said they will hear the case they They stopped the health orders are basically any school public or private that wants to reopened in person can do. So now while the court takes in the briefings, all of that sort of thing. But check this out. It's at Empower Wisconsin. Dot. Org. The justification for this order. The health order I should say by the health officer Janelle Heinrich. She argued that she's not closing schools she's just preventing in person instruction. But as the court notes, this statute was drafted in nineteen twenty three. Nineteen twenty three. So the most reasonable reading of what it means to close schools would seem to be preventing in person instruction just not preventing learning generally. You know they didn't quite have. The the idea that there was an internet or virtual learning at that time. Anyway. I thought that was a remarkable attempt of defense, of course, by the health officer here in Madison and Dane County. All right. Heritage action is calling on elected officials to sign its newly launched police pledge for lawmakers to stand up. And stand with law enforcers. No Weinrich's is ED joining us. Now he is from the Heritage Foundation has all of the details on this pledge what it means and where it's at right now good afternoon sir. Thank you for being with us. Thank you for having me. Yeah. Glad to have you on. Tell me a little bit about the background. How did this pledge up my assumption is it came and it grew out of the reporting that has taken place and what we've witnessed in this country for the last several months the burning down of course of city blocks like in Kenosha Madison and Portland in Minneapolis and Chicago, and we could go on and on but more. So the assault, the daily assault. Both physically and verbally on the police in this country. Exactly. Right it came out of a protest this summer when people started calling to de-fund the police and as you and I know but apparently the city council's in Milwaukee Minneapolis Cetera don't know that there can't be peace without police. Everybody knows that there's room for debate on couch to reform police tactics. But everyone knows that police keep safe There's numerous polls that show folks from every race and political persuasion. The majority of Americans want as much or more police communities. Air Action did battleground polling in four states including Wisconsin and found that four out of five. Americans. Oppose Fun the police. there's studies out there that show the more police you have. The same for you are in America is actually under police at least for violent crimes and this year you've seen violent crime double in places like Milwaukee Minneapolis, they're seeing far more murders than they have in years past, and a lot of that is because of the chaos that erupted out of these protests out of this anti police rhetoric and cities that have begun to defend their police are seeing skyrocketing crime New York cut one billion dollars out of their police budget and and they're seeing record violence. So, Americans are fed up, and that's why we're calling on lawmakers and citizens alike to support the police and pledge never to defend them, and you can find that at police pledged dot com we've we have almost one hundred members of Congress who signed including more than a dozen senators like Ted Cruz Tom Cotton Josh Holly Etcetera Including House leadership as well so. A lot of conservatives are standing up in the police drawing a line in the sand saying. You have to pledge to support the boys. There's a lot of people out there who were saying, Oh, I support police I think we should move funding from the police to these other programs that's not supporting the police that is against public safety against the police and against it's against what Americans want. Well, yeah. Exactly and I'll take it back to a statement that you. You may just a moment ago you said everybody understands that there is no peace without police I thought as much to i. that was just something I assumed as someone who lives in the real world. Someone who understands reality and the boundaries they're in but I am seeing it leaves we're being inundated by messages on mainstream media had through day after day after day, and they're certainly finding enough people to feature that there's a there's at least a percentage of people in America who are denying that reality who don't see it that way I. Suppose that's why this pledge is more important than ever. That's exactly of course, there are people out there who support defunding the police unfortunately though we found in our polling, was that in our battleground states only sixteen percent of likely voters support defunding the police and only eight percent strongly supported to really very vocal small minority in Wisconsin. seventy eight and eighteen against defunding the police. So these folks out there in the media in politics are very vocal. They they're beholden to the far left not even the mainstream up to the left the AOC's who want to defend the police but every voter knows unless they're watching MSNBC all day and fallen heroes he's tweets every voter knows that's going to be a bad idea regardless of their politics regardless of what they think about the protests even they still know the defunding the police won't solve anything will actually make violence worse. It'll bring police into violent confrontations and it's not going to help anyone. Yeah. Well, unfortunately, what we're seeing here in Wisconsin just like you're seeing in the DC area and New York and Chicago and Portland and elsewhere is. And bring it back to Wisconsin part of that eighteen percent that seems to be all in onto funding the police includes at least publicly some of our most prominent leaders, including Governor, Tony e either and legislators. On the left in the Wisconsin Assembly and and the Senate. Let me ask you this and we are talking. With No. Weinrich. Who is part of America excuse me heritage. And again they have the police pledge will get you some more information on that momentarily where to go. This is really about lawmakers signing on and standing up for law enforcers. It is interesting to me and there's this just launched. So there's definitely time. But how many senators did you say signed so far? So. Far, we have almost eighty in the house and we have fourteen. Twelve twelve hundred members and four candidates. Who is fun okay I'm definitely we've invited Democrats but not a single Democrat signed on yet even those in swing. So the so the Democrats even in swing districts Democrats everywhere won't sign this pledge saying they support police against. Now. Now I know that there are a number of Democrats who are truly part of that percentage that that they they want to bring in the social workers and take out the police I know they're all in in crazy town. But we there got to be some Democrats out there who still think the police are pretty good way to continue to keep our cities save and yet. They're not going to sign this pledge. Do you do you find that a baffling more? So how come more conservatives do you think having stepped to the plate more Republicans in the Senate there are certainly more. Republicans than than twelve in the US Senate. Certainly I think Democrats are finding themselves in a tough place especially moderates and swing district You know they claim to support the police they claim they oppose defunding, but they won't put their name on the dotted line for it and I think that's because they are afraid of the left wing of the party. They're based will not You. Know most voters won't fault them for it but the party leadership is all in on this stuff they're all on defunding. They want to appease the far-left. They don't want to call out MTPA they want to take the country leftward as possible even on an issue then deeply unpopular and so they. Poke. Fun Cotton the middle they're caught between their voters and party leadership and the far left wing is really dominating. the Democratic Party. and like you said, you know this is newly launched. So you know we invited we've invited Democrats Stein it's disappointing that they haven't but unfortunately not surprising and we are calling on lawmakers including Republican senators and them credit fenders to sign on We we have seen a lot you know. tractions only growing the momentum is growing every week we see more and more signers. So if you pay attention and again, you can see all these signs at police pledge Dot Com Pay Attention, see WHO's signing up. We also calling on everybody. Citizens all your listeners to sign up and contact your elected official. Done elected officials just haven't heard from their constituents on this but if we get enough people, conger offices emailing them asking then are you going to support the police they're going to sign on and so everybody has a part to play in this everyone can stand up support the police, and hopefully the police that are being demoralized, seeing, all the opposition to their to their field. We'll see that hundreds of thousands of people are supporting them. There officials are supporting them, and that's what we need in America right now. Yeah. Real quick and if you've answered this already my apologies for redundancy but is this just a federal level thing or is this also in the state legislatures too? Now, we are calling on officials and candidates. At every level. We have sections on her website for the Senate the House Governors and state and local officials had about one hundred, fifty state and local officials up We have Allen West in Texas chairman of the GOP down there we've had how we've had representatives, sheriffs, county commissioners, Lieutenant Governor's you name it has signed on and that's the way that they can differentiate themselves from the PAP, they who they can shine in their state and show they are a true supporter of law enforcement. So we have. Them and any listeners any politicians or candidates in Wisconsin please sign on the Pledge Yup. Well, very interesting. We'll continue to follow no Weinrich from the heritage action joining us on the police pledge. Thanks so much for being here. Thanks for having you bet have a great day weekend very interesting, and of course, you can find all that information at the Heritage Foundation Heritage Action I should say we'll take a break few spare thoughts next on the Vicki mechanics show. Producer John Something interesting and I don't. Watch a mishit. because. It relates to what we were talking about just a moment ago. With the gentleman from Heritage Action About the pledge you're looking for lawmakers to sign the pledge that they will stand up for police for funding for police and for Basic Public Safety in America headline, this is from the The epoch, times? Right. I think so. Oregon voters don't approve of Portland protests. Thank police aren't using enough force. You heard that right? So the average Port Lander. Is Very concerned about the constant rioting day after day of peaceful protests, of course, our lighting their streets on fire and injuring their fellow citizens and destroying their businesses and their way of life everything. A majority of Oregon voters disapprove of the ongoing unrest in Portland according to a new poll a plurality want police to use more force against demonstrators according to the story. I think the number is somewhere in the seventy to eighty percent range if I read that correctly. And perhaps, we shouldn't be surprised. You think about all the folks in Kenosha. How they looked at what happened and said, okay I may be concerned about the shooting that happened to Jacob Blake. I'm also very concerned about. Trying to force a phony equivalency that shooting someone gives you the license or the right to destroy an entire city just. Amazing. All right. Got To wrap up this hour straight ahead. Where were you? On September eleven two, thousand, one hang on.

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"It's Wednesday may sixth. I'm Akilah Hughes and I'm getting and this is what a day we're we're congratulating grimes becoming a motherboard and using a keyboard and just slapping her hands on it to name the kid like x a x nine seventy seven whatever. It is as a black person with the name that people fuck up. I'm upset on today's show we check in with Wisconsin's newly elected Supreme Court justice than some headlines. But first the latest. So that's the sound of shepherds hurting tons of sheep through streets in Turkey that are empty because of corona virus. Curfews so in case you ever wanted to know what that sounds like. That was that. But in news vice president pence told reporters yesterday that the Corona Task Force created to manage the federal government's response to the pandemic could be disbanded within a month because of quote the tremendous progress. We've made as a country to that. I say Sir the kilo. What what does this actually mean? Dude I don't know like at this point I don't know I don't have an answer for the delusion and just literally don't know as far as progress goes many states are reopening. Even cases are increasing and models are predicting an additional uptick in cases. More than seventy thousand Americans died So if this is progress honestly don't know what the is a senior White House official told. Cnn that the task force will be phased down by Memorial Day and trump told reporters during his mask. Lewis trip to the honeywell mask plans in Arizona. That even after the task force is disbanded. Dr Burks the Virus Response Coordinator for the Task Force and other top public officials could still be involved in the efforts to address the pandemic and on that front do we know. In what capacity are they going to be doing their own press conferences or something? I mean I think we just have to stop assuming that this administration has a plan. All we know is that they claim that we're still going to hear from them. There are never details but practically speaking disbanding the task force means that we could have less coordination between federal agencies and less of a planned response effort. Not that it's been going that great so far The administration is having a particularly bad week in regards to their corona virus response aside from this bizarre statement from the Vice President Ri Progress Rick. Bright the former top vaccine official removed from his post in April alleged in a whistleblower complaint that he was reassigned because he tried to quote prioritize science and safety over political expediency and added that he was pressured to contract with companies that have political links to the administration. Who Yeah. This is definitely something that we're going to have to keep an eye on going forward. Yeah and complaint filed to. The House suggests that the virus team headed up by nepotism poster child. Jared Kushner has been suffering because it relies on volunteers from consulting and private equity firms. That are completely underqualified. Ill suited for the job so seems like a real theme with Kushner and his team which has been acting kind of like a shadow task force is expected to continue his shadow. Task-forcing in the Middle East went great shifting gears though for a second about something else coming out of the government at the moment stimulus. Checks seems like the government is getting sued. A bunch on that front yeah. So yesterday. In Texas children of undocumented parents filed a lawsuit against the trump administration to receive their stimulus checks under the cares. Acts families should be receiving five hundred dollars per child but undocumented people and status families were excluded. The suit claims that these children U. S. citizens are being denied that relief and their constitutional rights to equal protection and due process. So damn and this also follows last week's lawsuit from spouses of undocumented immigrants who similarly have not received their money all right so that's a quick look at the government and stories related to that we have updates on the science front as it relates to the virus thankfully yes science is still crushing. It so a couple. New Studies are adding to the pile of evidence that children can and do transmit the corona virus so while trump might want Barron to go back to school already. Epidemiologists are just cautioning entirely against reopening in a study published last week in the Journal. Science data from two cities in China were analyzed where the virus first emerged and Shanghai. The study found that children were around a third susceptible to corona virus infection as adults were but and this is a really big but when schools were open children had three times as many contacts as adults and three times as many opportunities to get infected. Which essentially just evens out their risk. There are several countries have begun to reopen schools but they have done a better job of controlling the virus and we have an only time is going to tell if they continue to be safe in that decision. Another study out of Germany backed up the findings that children can spread the virus readily. This is one of the big questions. Epidemiologists trying to solve studies like these are really important to getting to a practical answer on what to do about schools in the future. So that's what's going on nationally. But let's take a moment to zoom in on Wisconsin where the state legislature is suing over Wisconsin. Stay at home order. Get in you want to explain. Yeah so the case is called Wisconsin legislature versus palm and the palm in this situation refers to Andrea Palm. Who is the head of the state's health agency appointed by governor? Tony Verse who is a Democrat? The lawsuit filed by the State's Republican controlled legislature is effectively seeking to put an end to the stay at home order in the state. But it ends up being bigger than that. It's also questioning whether palm exceeded her authority when she ordered those closures instructed. Wisconsin is to stay home beginning on March twenty fourth and it could impact this kind of quick necessary. Decision making by figures like palm in the future. Wisconsin currently has about eight thousand five hundred cases all right so this case is now in front of Wisconsin Supreme Court which currently has a conservative majority. Yesterday they heard oral arguments over zoom. Any sense of how they're going to decide right. Even though the justices themselves were practising social distancing the five conservative justices on the court appeared fine with the prospect of ending this mandated order to give you a sense of where their heads are at. Here are a few of the issues. Those justices brought up. I'm paraphrasing here. Is Palms Order Akin to the executive order mandating internment of Japanese-americans in World War? Two could bomb us the same authority to do shutdowns for the seasonal flu and win the lawyer. Arguing on behalf of the order mentioned a cove in nineteen outbreak at a meat packing facility in the state. One of the justice jumped into point out that those cases weren't among quote regular folks in that county. Oh yes sorry. That's just a that's a wild thing to say regular folks regular folks. The court though has not said yet when a decision would be reached on the case. But we'll keep you updated and as we've talked about on the show. This is the same. Wisconsin Supreme Court that overturned the Democrat governors ordered to postpone recent election in the state forcing people to scramble to get their absentee ballots in or even go to the polls we now know voting in person on that day has led to dozens of identified cove nineteen cases which obviously terrible totally predictable but in that same election in April one of these conservative justices Daniel Kelly who had the backing of president trump lost his seat on the court. Judge Joe Roff ski running on a platform of restoring faith in our courts defeated him and we spoke to her earlier this week about the election. I do think that there were people who were angry. About what the United States Supreme Court but the Wisconsin State Supreme Court what Wisconsin Legislature decided on the eve of the election. And they said we're going to vote and you saw them in their masks when you saw them with their gloves and you saw them standing six feet apart especially in Milwaukee and they went to the polls. They wanted their voice to be heard. Yeah I mean if you're going to force people to be risking their lives then like they're gonNA show up and vote against you But you know cross ski. Winning was a really big upset. Yeah Oh yeah I mean incumbents. Don't lose often. In these circumstances Kelly was just the second income into loose since nineteen sixty seven and in the more immediate future. Karachi's victory means that the courts conservative majority will fall from five to four three. And that'll be important. For upcoming cases things to do with voting rights gerrymandering other civil rights cases things of that nature and there's also some evidence that Republicans insistence on making people show up to vote endangering their public. Health and safety may have led to a backlash against them the Progressive Organization future now fund put out a study showing the counties in Wisconsin with Higher Corona Virus. Infection rates had bigger shifts towards kickoff ski than places with lower rates. So Wisconsin is a swing state So this win has some Democrats feeling like they could take the state in November. Give the apparent success of the organizing that went into mobilizing vote by mail and voter sentiment and this sort of broader backlash against trump and republican mismanagement of the pandemic right But for craft skied. The win was bittersweet because she found it unconscionable that people are made to vote under those circumstances when we talked to her. She said that she's hoping to be part of making the court's less partisan and less bought off by businesses or Special Interests Donald Trump's I endorsed van Kelly back in January Dan Kelly started signaling to Donald Trump. That if you get across the finish line on April seventh I will be there for you come November when we talk about things like like border perjure other issues and so it was just it was no surprise at all and Kelly were very very consistent. Vote for right-wing special interest and is seem to be very very aligned with with Donald Trump. August I I will start of my term. It is a ten year term on Wisconsin State Supreme Court and am going to get busy. Doing the job was elected to do which is interpreting the law and making decisions that come before us based on what the law says. Yeah sounds like a good plan and like what justices are supposed to do by the way while we're talking about fairness vote by mail is going to be essential part of a safe and fair election in November and the great news is there's research that it increases participation to for young people for people of Color and across socioeconomic groups if you want to push for that join our campaign and call your members of Congress head over to vote save America dot com slash. Call to find out more waad squad. Is it Wednesday? It's Wednesday well I doing. I hope you're doing okay. Hope you're sleeping enough. Let's check in so I've been watching a lot of TV. New and old and Giddy. I WanNa know what new show do you love? Oh I have a bad answer this but I have a wreck for a movie. That is the length of perhaps three shows There's three three like thirty thirty minute shows is called so I guess standard yes. Bbs Is easier way to put it. it's called unstoppable and the concept is the Chris Pine and Denzel Washington have to stop a runaway freight train that is going through the middle of Pennsylvania. Cool action movie cool concept based on a true story and features like a fairly old denzel running on the top of train to actually like hit the brakes on it while turning away so speed speed. It's speed but real on a train. Yeah Iraq's well I mean I'm not the target demographic for that but I guarantee someone listening is GonNa Watch back to us there. The unstoppable hive is on sophomore. Frankly but what's what is your. What does your benching habit like? Okay so eating terrible but binge watching I have loved never. Have I ever a Netflix? The show is incredible Mindy Kayla new show. It's about teenage girls in high school. It is not just about that though. It's about so many things grief in being Indian and all of these very interesting things but I think my favorite thing about it is that John McEnroe. The very angry to this player narrates it from the perspective of the teenage girls and every every time has narration breaks in. I have to like pause to stop laughing because he is very good at narrating that rocks. Yeah I've heard really good things about this I'm excited to catch onto it. Approximately five years late and report back to everyone at that point. Yeah I mean that's fair. There's there's plenty to watch. We HAVE TIME. It seems like but guess what guys we did it. We did it. We check these temperatures and wow I feel better already hope you're streaming service of choice to stops asking you if you're still watching and just assume that you are gonNA check your temp again tomorrow and now for some ads let guys life is uncertain right. Now it's also scary and bad. A lot of people are anxious in while. 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The men said they thought he was involved in a burglary and claimed self defense. Neither of them were arrested after the shooting which drew a lot of anger from civil rights activists and local NWPP leaders one prosecutor who later recused himself from the case that Arby's assailants acted legally under Georgia's citizens arrest statutes after a graphic video of the incident emerged online. The cases current prosecutor contradicted that position deciding that grand jury should see the case and consider criminal charges against the men who killed rb that could take up to a month because of the pandemic California is suing Uber and lived for Miss Classifying their drivers as independent contractors rather than employees. The state's attorney general. Are they violated? A New California law requiring companies to prove that contractors are free from company control the claims that by classifying workers as independent contractors the companies are depriving them basic workers protections such as minimum wage overtime and unemployment insurance burn lift have been pouring millions of dollars into ballot initiatives in recent months to make sure that their workers would be exempt from the new law. Astute listeners will notice. This could mean. Those ballot initiatives are bad intriguing shortages stemming from krona virus related plant. Closures have begun to hit home for certain junior bacon cheeseburger loving members of the WAD squad. Nearly one fifth of America's five thousand five hundred Wendy's restaurants are currently out of beef. That's according to one industry analyst who said that. Wendy's is especially vulnerable among fast food places for using be that's always fresh never frozen. Their only crime was being too damp here for this godforsaken world in contrast though the CEO of McDonald's gloated last week that his company hasn't experienced quote a single supply. Chain break will be sure to come by then. So the folks that McDonalds can thaw out one of their ice cold two year old patties and watch me throw it in the garbage. You stay away from my noble red-haired friend Wendy Wendy. Yes we know where the beef is all right well. A large portion of American workers aren't ready to give up the Pajama bottoms and fully loaded. Eleven am sandwiches of their work from home lifestyle. That's according to IBM survey released last week. Which found that fifty? Four percent of the thousand five thousand adults polled want the ability to work mostly from home after the corona virus. Pandemic ends work from home is an option. That's mostly available to white collar workers. 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Virtual Organizing with Ben Wikler

Swing Left - How We Win

43:34 min | 7 months ago

Virtual Organizing with Ben Wikler

"Yes you have a cheese stick and got one for each cat. Okay and for us always friends on the computer what it was the hello welcome to episode. Thirty one of how we win all over the country people are staying home staying safe and doing extraordinary things. Were giving you the tools that you need to make a difference right now right from your Living Room. The Best Antidote to anxiety actions. We need your help. Yes still and we'll get through this together. Joining us. Today is been wicklow. Head of the Wisconsin Democratic Party. They have a big fight on their hands next week and their election is still on been breaks down. What's going on and how volunteers are helping by phone and by social media to turn out vote by mail voters for race. It's really going to have some major national applications. I'm Steve Pearson and Mariah Craven and this is how we win hail you cool cats and KITTENS Steve. Here it's Steve Exotic here. Actually my new name listen. It's relevant because as people will recall. Joe Exotic did run for President can twenty sixteen he did. I didn't really pay attention. I vaguely remember John Oliver's segment about him. We're talking of course about tiger king which has taken home binging by storm during the corona virus and apparently been not great for the State of Oklahoma. Because that park I would just reading a couple of days ago. Got Overrun with visitors. And the governor was like cool with it. Oh well it's that. That's very on trend on bread. Follow up to that story. I thought conspiracy theory that Jared Kushner Donald Trump. We're behind releasing it when they just to distract everyone corona virus. This is the Netflix. Show that Has has taken the world by storm. It's very unfortunate but you know what in these in these Tough Times any distraction rain? Oh destroy it's an amazing and Also you brought up Jerry Kushner which we don't Kushner Kushner cush cush. We brought up there. We brought up. Kushner and a lot of people aren't talking about his role in this. He was actually put in charge of the response. Getting ventilators early on been a huge part of gumming up the works and creating this disaster of a response that we have so. It's good to bring him up. Yeah we got a bunch of ventilators from the Federal Government in California. That were broken so thanks Kush. Yeah newsom didn't send them back. He actually sent them to A company to repair them and said he's GonNa take stuff into his own hands because That's what you do when you don't have a federal government that's got your back so thank you to the governors in the mayor's Who are leading the way who are given the public good information amidst These briefings where they're just unconscionable not even bananas this is you know for trump to go off on his during these briefings And have not an iota of compassion for the people who are affected by this. Which is everybody now. You know I mean we're at the point where anyone listening this podcast probably know somebody who has been affected by this virus and these are our family members. These are our friends on these. Are Human beings in this. Sociopath doesn't look at people as anything other than numbers and it's it's just it's deplorable is what it is and as the only saving grace is that he continues to have medical experts. Come on A. We need to be vigilant for the day when those medical experts aren't part of the press conferences where they're you know trump pence and some executives. Who were doing something? Then we need to take a step back and say okay you know just just things to be aware of in my end. Mindful of as we are also vulnerable and seeing like what vulnerable countries around the world are going through we. We have to be ever vigilant from what's going on nationally even as we focus on what's going on in our own. It's a really great point. I would like to take my direction from Scientists and professionals in infectious disease circles and corporations that would be my preference. Yeah Yeah So. Speaking of corporations there are obviously you know. Business is being hit super hard right now. There are some businesses that are shifting their some businesses that are doing better than others in this moment and I wanted to mention Worker strikes that are happening this week. as we're recording this Whole foods employees are going on strike And yesterday instant cart an Amazon employees went on strike Obviously they're doing this at really critical moments And they're asking for better protections for their health and safety they're asking for hazard pay right now they're asking for a commitment to making it easier for customers to tip if you are using these services. It's really important that you that you advocate for these workers. The purpose of a strike is to make the lives of the public inconvenient so that we will go to the corporations and say you know we want the workers to have these things as well so you know if you're into cart delivery was delayed yesterday you know. The best response is not to go go to be Bader Amazon prime now or by another service but to reach out to the company and let them know that you stand with workers who deserve everything that they're asking for right now and please tip way he. Han Yep Great Point. Amazon's specially gotTA check themselves. You know they We all use Amazon. I use Amazon a lot but you know they literally fired the worker who Organized this walkout that happened yesterday. I believe me pick up a check themselves and we got to keep our eyes on on that and support these work. We have to check that. Yes that's unconscionable to fire somebody for what I what I meant is basis has to check himself before he wrecks himself. That's what I meant. Okay good good good. I thought that's what matters but we'll check him to check them. Avas shitty chick check himself. Wrexham's Oh yeah. You should do all those things and also pay taxes. Any who Let's talk about McConnell because McConnell recently just said that Dim impeachment push distracted the government from the corona virus threat so he's blaming the lack of preparedness from our government. Who by the way? Let just to Reemphasize Donald Trump and his administration cut the department that Obama had established for Infectious Disease Response and cut the budget for the CDC removed. All those people so anyway. But the fact that we weren't prepared for this was the Democrats fault for pushing impeachment when they did according to Mitch McConnell sure why. Why wouldn't we all trump accountable for for his misdeeds That's absurd also as the impeachment was going on in the Senate. Us intelligence agencies were briefing members of Congress and the White House about this mysterious health pandemic That was happening in China and beyond and they chose to ignore that for a very long time. So you know I guess Mitch. Mcconnell can't do more than one thing at one time which is right. Maybe maybe maybe he's not qualified for the job that he has. If that's the case I think maybe his I think his single focus on a obstructing everything the Democrats do and trying to put. Conservative judges in federal courts has made it impossible for him to do anything else. Get a different job Mitch. Let's give him a different job and let's get him out of that Speaker Chair. Alright well there's actually a lot of reasons for hope and a lot of cool stuff going on this week that I really WanNa talk about because This is a scary time. And there's been some really amazing things that have come out of this always does and a time of crisis. What are some things that you want to highlight? Well I've been doing a lot of zoom calls which prior to this I would have told you I don't like but I knew loving them like a thank goodness. This isn't all conference. Call stuff because I just you know really missing people's faces we're still doing the podcast separately booze responsible for the time being but you know when I get to like just hang out with people. Virtually I really appreciate that and I. I'm trying to transfer that into the same feeling among my neighbors when we see each other walking the dogs out on the street. It's not working so far. Not It's not the friendliest neighborhood that I live in and it's real disappointing for my dog when they don't say Hyder social does. The dog is really sensitive. He's gotta get over there but But last night there was a neighborhood. Wide Clap for healthcare workers so we are finding ways through not having directly. That's other that's an amazing. That's been amazing. All over the world people have been doing these claps and cheers for healthcare workers during shift changes and Look online you'll find these videos all over the place. It's really amazing. And these nurses and doctors are doing incredible work. They're on the frontlines. They're putting themselves at risk. Take care of us. As as they do and man they're they're overwhelmed and deserve every bit of of love and support that we can give them. The clapping is nice. But there's some local restaurants that are doing this SAB by a healthcare worker. Emile Thing that I am. I'm looking forward to participating in. I think that the the healthcare workers would probably most want personal protective equipment. But I think they are appreciating that people are trying their. I don't have any equipment to give them. But we can always find something to do or some way to say thank you. Yeah and one thing that I've seen a few of these happen in neighborhoods which have been really cool. I've literally witnessed two of them and then I saw friend post one. And that's these drive by happy. Birthday parades have you seen this at all chew. Yeah our our neighbor across the street. Their son Tanner. I'm not sure what how old he is. Now he's about ten years old at a huge caravan a parade of cars with signs and noisemakers blasting birthday songs and driving by honking and waving to him and My friend Lauren had a birthday and everyone showed up for Lauren which was really cool. That's it's really nice. That people are are coming up with creative ways to do it neighborhoods or putting stuffed animals up in their windows for kids to see and it's you know people are figuring out really cool ways to connect with each other in their communities. I was my biggest fear when this all started happening was that we were already so disconnected from each other in our in our lives. And we're so polarized in our communities and we're in we talk about being are bubbles all the time. I was really worried that now that we're staying at home going to further isolate us but it's actually forced people into finding ways to reach out in their communities and to talk to people of course this disease doesn't Care WHAT POLITICAL PARTY. You're affiliated with and we're all trying to help each other out and it's it creates that common ground that Look I wish we didn't have to do it this way. Would I take a global pandemic for all communicate and connect with each other but that's a byproduct product that's something that I've been seeing and And it's it's really surprised me. Frankly it's been it's been nice. It has been nice. I'm really looking really like fantasizing about what happens to this is all over it. I'M NOT GONNA take people for granted anymore. I'm not talking to my neighbors after this is over. I right the other thing. That's exciting is that we are shifting and finding ways to engage with voters Even in spite of this and that is a huge shift. I mean we've been talking for so long about you know face to face. Contact is the most important thing walk and we weren't lying but you know. Being adaptive and innovative is also really important. And we have. We have some cool cool tools for people to use to do that. Absolutely we'll talk about your to do list and I'll say seriously to. The very first thing is stay home of course and And if that's all you do this week. That's enough. A lot of people still need to just regroup and get settled with their families and figure out what the next few weeks gonNA look like as these Stay at home. Orders are extended. But if you WANNA get into action while you're at home and do some stuff from the living room. We have some exciting ways to do it and swing left. Just launched. Our virtual organizing hub will put a link to it on our pod site. But it's swing left Dot Org. Slash VIRTUAL DASH organizing. Go there. Check it out. It's got different resources for you to do effective important strategic work. While you're at home while your social distancing yeah and one of those things is letter writing parties virtual letter writing parties. Ooh I love a party. Yeah and you love Zoom because you were talking about zoom earlier so talking about that. You're talking about that and so Four Times a week. There are virtual letter writing parties where you can download letters in your own home and get on zoom with People from all over the country and And write letters together. This is so cool. You can make some new organizing friends. Yeah connect with people you know wherever they may be and Mariah don't you think you and I should host one of these for the PODCAST podcast listeners. Let's do it let's do it. Because how when Virtual Letter Writing Party Mark Your calendars Thursday April sixteenth will be the one that we're gonNA host and we will have a link to it on our page as well and sign up we'd love to see your faces on zoom in and write some letters great and then of course on Wednesday April I. This is what we promise you at the top of the show national call. Night focused on Wisconsin Yeah there's a very important Wisconsin Supreme Court Seat that is an election that we are really keeping an eye on and working. Hard on because Well we're going to talk about it more with Ben Winkler who will break down why it's important but they has huge implications for Gerrymandering. It has national implications and this is going to be The first of a few special elections coming up where we're really going to start digital organizing and remote organizing skills and and see what we can do to win progressive victories so we encourage everyone to get involved again. We'll have the the link on our page Wednesday April. I make some calls. Let's win an election in Wisconsin. Yes let's do it. I was just like Oh. That's Eero Fool's Day. This is not a joke though. I know we're releasing hot on April alarm more releasing modern April fool's day and it's not funny. Nothing's funny about it. But that's my laughter earlier in this episode was really just like nervous. Yeah I mean we're going to get through this we're GonNa get through it together. We're going to get through it by Taking care of one another. We're GONNA get through it by you know having enjoying the moments the Um that we have with our family and watching fun shows like tiger king in and paying attention to the news and the important stuff that we need to stay focused on We're going to do all of those things and And get through this together whilst said speaking of important stuff we gotta focus on. What's Talk About Wisconsin? Yeah Kansan. I'm excited for everyone to hear Ben. Wiktor who I've admired for a long time his work at move-on and he's spectacular chair of the Wisconsin Democratic Party and he was good enough to call in from home. We got to meet his kids to that was fun. We all ate cheese sticks together. Can we for you guys to hear it Ben Wick? Ler is the chair of the Wisconsin Democratic Party. He was formerly a senior adviser at move on and held senior leadership roles also at Avaz Dot Org and Change Dot. Org The world's two largest online organizing networks. Ben Thank you so much for taking the time to talk to his just a week away from Wisconsin's primary but in so much for having me on. Thanks for all that you and your listeners. Doing so how are things looking for the primary next week man? I'm right in there. No one has to our knowledge in the United States. There's never been an election. A general election conducted in these conditions. I we have a full-blown raging Crisis in Wisconsin. Right now there are more than a thousand. You're not there whether dozen deaths already in that numbers climbing rapidly across the state sixty percent of municipalities report coworker shortages. I've heard from places where two thirds of their workers cancelled already. I the governor. There's reports that the governor's considering asking state employees or the National Guard. Fill in to help conduct. Elections Niceties are shutting down polling places left and right clerks are in this position where people contact them and say to request a voter to request an absentee ballot. They need to submit a photo voter. Id and these are close. They're supposed to stay in their house. And there's a a boxing intact to say that you're indefinitely can find so in in two places at two counties. They've said to be a look if you cannot account a photo voter. Id but you're eligible registered voter than just Murphy indefinitely confined box and the Republican Party Wisconsin immediately sued and took it to the State Supreme Court. Meanwhile were at the Democratic Party Wisconsin. We're in federal court to try to get the voter. Id requirement thrown out in this context. I do everything we can to help. People vote safely. I don't think anyone knows what happens in a context like this. I if if we did not have this crisis it was going to be a close election. And you know everything we're looking at. It was suggesting could go either way but we were definitely right there in the fight context. I don't know I don't think anyone honestly knows it could be. It could be super close. It could be a landslide in either direction so some states have postponed their their primaries. Wisconsin at this point is moving forward. And it looks like you are having just a tremendous number of absentee ballots requested I think it was reading. Nearly a million using this election will go forward. Next Tuesday primarily vote by mail. Here's the thing in other places. They just have a primary but in Wisconsin. This is an actual general election for a state Supreme Court seat for tenure term for the Ocoee mayor in Milwaukee County executive for a APPLETON's mayor or school referendum. Lots of parts of the stage for county board seats. In every part of Wisconsin. There are a lot of critical offices that will become vacated if people's terms expire and there's no successor if a judge orders that the election date removed than both the awesome however it will sort of figure out what the next thing is but it is not just a primary. It's not something. That party is conducting this election written into statute by the legislature that has enormous consequences for governance across the state and right now the Republican leaders of the legislature are very. They don't want to move the election. They don't want to change any of the rules and the last last spring election in two thousand nineteen. We had one point two million votes cast. We have almost a million absentee ballot requests as today Tuesday. The deadline is this Thursday at five. Pm So we can have more requests than we'd had votes in last entire election. That's add some people won't necessarily return them and no one has a model that trust even a little bit for who is willing to and does successfully go person normally election besides that a Lotta time figuring out who are the likely voters who are the potential. You know voters who might not always vote this time out. I don't think we can confidently say that anyone who we haven't seen returner absentee ballot. Ob- somebody would be noticed and so is there a new world certainly unprecedented World so this election Will be one of the ones that we use as a model going forward and looking at what's going to happen in November two You had big plans for you. Know a massive ground game in Wisconsin for this election you've worked in advised the biggest and most successful digital organizing platforms that exist today. Vase change and move on. How has how you're reaching out to voters changed with the arrival of Krona virus? What advice do you have from your experience organizing digitally that you can share with people in? Wisconsin? We've been gearing up frankly since the spring of twenty seventeen to run the biggest field operation not on the most doors at neighbors knocking on their neighbors doors in twenty twenty that our state has ever seen corona virus. Means that people don't want to go knock on doors and they don't want to open the door to strangers knocking so that tactic has just off the table. It's not like we're passing up the chance to do something that would be effective. Were were just. We've lost the option of running a standard that means we shift digital. We went all virtual before the stay home. Order was handed down. Actually Wisconsin is. We could see this wave coming and now our field staff are county chairs and they're volunteers are neighborhood action teams we have them in hundreds of communities around the State. They are doing neighbor to neighbor calling programs. They're doing virtual phone banks. They're using relational organizing tools in which you basically figure out which of the people in your personal contacts are potential voters who would go your way and we basically contract and support you reaching out to them and reminding them and helping them get in their absentee ballots successfully. We're doing period of your text messages. Were doing social media canvassing. We're doing all these things that have been a part of our program. Some some of them. We'd been thinking of this spring as a kind of chance to pilot them doing at scale right. It's it is very different. What social media canvassing social media canvassing is posting on social media in facebook groups our next door groups or you're doing things in space is the occupy and then seeing how people respond and as warranted individually reaching out to them grumbling. When you knock on the door you're asking you know. We got him up front this election. And would you commit to voting for Joel cross-cue for Supreme Court. You can do the same thing on Facebook Messenger. You can do the same thing with a facebook post about Joe Cross and then see who likes it or doesn't angry emerging reaction A. There's a lot you can reveal a lot about their intentions and behavior and are happy to to raise their hand as enthusiastic democratic butters in a social media context. Those signals are often lost. I think in political campaigns but they're incredibly powerful as a way of figuring out who's on your team and then I give me a basis to off with them through your personal on my relationship. Are you training volunteers to do that? Or is this or is this your team? That's doing it. So the general sort of model is I'm C. C. Do teach and so a member of our staff or an routine lead or a volunteer who can recruit other volunteers. You try to show someone how something works then. You have to do it themselves. And then you train trainers to train other people and so different Different techniques are different states in different parts of the state in other words. There's actually a group in northern Wisconsin called the digital dem's with North Wisconsin. That have been doing social media campaign for some time They're they're a group of volunteers. Were running trainings about how to do this. Things virtual trainings for folks. All of the state that used to be doing trainings You have the phrase the future is already. Here is just arriving at different times of different places or like that with with digital field organizing but each of these things is. Some cases is being done entirely by volunteers. Our staff is working with the whole Palette tools. Speaking of a pallet of tools and what volunteers are doing Swing left is doing a national. Call night Tomorrow night Wednesday night for the Wisconsin State Supreme Court election that you talked about. Could you let people know a little bit about that race and why? It's so important that we help out. Yes historically Republicans have been much more effective and much more attuned to the significance of judicial races and fights over over judges. This is the reason. Mitch McConnell gets up in the morning is to pack federal courts with Republican judges in Wisconsin Republican Party the Republican dark money groups. The Republican machine has been working relentlessly to recruit and train and deploy support elect Republicans to especially Wisconsin Supreme Court. So right now. They have five two advantage over the non non. Republican non partisan judges right now two seats right now. Even though they have a five two advantage we actually have a deadlock in our Supreme Court over a critical case which is are licensed commission should purge two hundred thirty four thousand voters from our voting rolls and that is a response to a lawsuit brought by a right wing. Group called Wisconsin introduced for Law Liberty. There's a Republican judge on the Supreme Court. Actually used to litigate for that right wing group. He fought for gerrymandered maps. He fought to defend Scott Walker former governor in corruption cases he was appointed to the Supreme Court. His name is Dan. Kelly and Dan Kelly although he real litigated for was on the Advisory Board for those consonant to flood liberty six times. He's refused to recuse himself from cases that they brought enroll than there were in their favor every single time. And now in this case over the U. Voter purge right before his election. He did recuse himself which I think Mitt since politically because it's a bad. Look to to rule the voters in your own election a few weeks before the election. He's signaled that if he is elected then he's going to. He's going to consider and I have a suspicion of what will lead to UNRIG using himself. And so it's really the tiebreaking but in that case and this is probably. GonNa wind up being one of multiple voting rights cases that could affect the election of Donald Trump the defeated donald trump. In the fall. They'll come before the State Supreme Court in the course of this year so this is a race that has enormous significance nationally. It's also important for Wisconsin. Because the Supreme Court will consider issues like gerrymandered maps after the twenty twenty census and redistricting process. So a lot is on the line and then Kelly is essentially a republican activists wearing traditional robes. He's been endorsed by Donald. Trump at has mega rally in Milwaukee right before Corona virus head. He is that You know take fundraisers at gun ranges and hosted salvation himself air fifteen. He's he's a Republican politician. Who HAPPENS TO BE HONEST? It's in court and we are organizing a massive push Working with scores of different groups. And there's also lots of groups on the independent side that are working to try to elect joke Rosca to the Supreme Court to replace it and Kelly Joe for justice is her website over. Dessus DOT COM. That's her slogan she's great she's an actual judge Nazis coming from this Having served in a as a judge in county for a number of years to special a special prosecutor for domestic violence before that ran the state office programs for crime victims so she has a deep familiarity with all sides of the criminal justice system and she wants to actually be a justice who thinks about justice and civil rights and major the judicial system works for Everyone. What you want. You don't want America Party chair but I'd rather have actual judges on our Supreme Court and it just makes too much sense coming back. Call me old fashioned. So that is the battle lines. What we're seeing right. Now is a dark money. Group called the Republican State Leadership Committee coming in pouring huge amounts of money into the race at the last second nineteen also. There's also a group called Wisconsin Manufacturers and commerce which is kind of the big business lobby on their pouring into the race and we are battling hard as we can on our side. I think the toughest piece that makes it. The biggest unknown is corona virus in this question of whether whether there might be a partisan gap in how much people are conscious of the dangers. That Kurt Avars posits which would be great for for Democrats in the race also good for public health people showing up Tashaun pulse. Yeah I would. I would rather that we buy this ad on on a safe and even playing field and I'm concerned by public polling that I've seen that there are a lot of Republican voters including older Republican voters. Who are particularly at risk to our only a little concerned rather than moderately or severely concerned And you know if people are going in person I want them to do so with utmost care and frankly the best thing for everyone is to if you can is to requested submitting absentee ballots. We were talking a lot about that with Marcos from daily coast last week's episode to just how voting by mail it's something that as Democrats we know we. We want everyone to have access to the vote and voting by mail is a great way to do it. But for Republicans it's really Kinda strategic for them now for the first time too because they have a lot of vulnerable voters that are at risk and You know they they wanNA take care of those people too. I mean we just we just happens to fall in line with basic humanity and keeping people safe and alive but you know it's strategic for them to think I I mean I think it is. I think it is especially for medium to long-term dance You have a cheese stick and you get one for each cat okay. And for us. He's friends on the computer snack break. He's excited about the podcast right curly. How did you get on a podcast worth? Hello Hello how old's your daughter so you heard my son my daughter. Suzy's five with my son. Jack was too suzy's getting the cheese steaks jacquards on that. Nice work run. The boss is going. I was just GonNa say you're bringing like a really. You've been heading the Wisconsin Democratic Party. Almost a year you bring really unique perspective and work experience to it Why did you feel that this role was this next? Stop on your organizing and political anyway. I think it's kind of Kershaw but if I'm not working feels like the biggest fight that I will find then happenings. Essential Crisis London when the allies so I wanted to move onto the something for a long time and after we had our third child who developed hybrid be near grandparents and then after my predecessor here decided not to run further? And so I had this moment of Oregon State Bihan I'd love working on does Oriented jump right into the fray and has proven to be the the state. That's most likely to tip the Electoral College in Twenty Twenty and I just felt like at this battle was here and I wanted to bring everything and I'm bill so lucky to be able to do that now. Working with those who've been in the trenches in state that his bid a just an extraordinary battleground for everything that they were progressive care about cross country for so long. I also as I. I grew up very involved in politics. Volunteering have stuffing envelopes and knocking on doors. When I was a kid the state representative Madison was someone who used to come to debates that I helped organize like in highschool to talk about issues affecting teenagers and she was then elected to Congress. My senior high school and volunteered on on her campaign. Tammy Baldwin is likely to Congress and the Senate and so this is what I've known in different capacities my whole life that are playing such an important role in and in the big fight across the country. Now and be able to work alongside those folks. It's a great honor. Was You wanted to challenge now? You have it. Well you obviously have your hands full Not just with this election And you have such a a wide variety of experience coming into this and For those of you who don't follow ban on twitter. You should because he always says great stuff that he shares. I've been follower for a long time. One last question. What gives you hope. The biggest of hope for me is that even when terms so incredibly during that there are millions of people across this country across Wisconsin round the world who wake up and report themselves into fighting for. What's right the the ability to you know look around online or after this crisis passes be able to look and see who are taking terrible sacrifices. That are fighting against impossible odds prevailing. That's what keeps me going. I was deeply involved in the fight against the repeal the affordable act and I got to know this group of families with kids extraordinary medical needs. Who were going to Capitol Hill with the with trae sometimes with ventilators oxygenates in all these different things that they need to just keep their their children alive and were meeting with Republican. Senators telling them. You need to vote for my child's life and they fought day after day in an environment where defeat was supposed to be supposed to be assured and they want and millions of us who fought by their side. We all experience the power of people to make the impossible possible. And you know I don't know what's GonNa Happen in our Supreme Court racier. What's going to happen in the fall but I do know that by sustaining each other in a movement that goes beyond our own personal struggles goes even beyond our parties. That is how we could fight it. And that's what gives me that's powerful. Thank you for all the work. You're doing I'm thrilled. That you're leading the way in Wisconsin and also Being such a great national leader and keep your family safe and hang in there and we're we`ll. We've all got each other's backs during this time so good luck next week. We'll be making some phone calls for you. All thank you so much really grateful for all you're doing and they saw your listeners for drug yourselves into the fight of anyone can volunteer if you stems dot org slash volunteer. You can find a sign up for him there. That's an easy way to get involved. We'll put that up on our page as well. Thank you so much. Thank you before we go. I share an email that we got from Matt. G OF SWING LEFT Baltimore. Hey Matt thank you so much for listening. Thanks for the great idea. He had the idea that People should write in and share what they write in their letters. Because we're in as we talked about doing a lot of letter writing parties right now. Mariah and I are going to host one for everybody. Thursday April sixteenth. Mark. Your calendars every letter. There's a place to write a personal message to people. And he was good enough to share what he writes on his letter so Mariah. Do you WanNa read that. Yes I would be honored to read it. Matt adds to his letters in the personalization section. I vote in every election because my family works and bled for this country so my kids would have a better tomorrow. Vote Democrat and save tomorrow that Matt so well said boy there. There is no better case right now to voting Democrat in saving tomorrow than what? We're walking through right now so Thank you matt. Thank you everybody else. Who is writing letters? Please share what you write with us in and we will read it on our show and join us. Thursday April sixteenth for our letter. Writing Party Letter Writing Party. Thank you for joining us today. And thank you for stepping up and taking action. This is how we win. We win when we all stay healthy. Stay safe and get involved. It's right we want to hear from you. Let us know how you're staying busy during the corona virus pandemic and? What brings you hope tweet to us. I'm at Blues. 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Wisconsin's Pandemic Primary

What A Day

18:49 min | 7 months ago

Wisconsin's Pandemic Primary

"It's Tuesday April seventh. I'm Akilah he's getting interesting and this is what the day your source for all things mask. Fashion honestly I think that the people in the streets who are wearing masks look better than the met ball gala. And if I was going to happen they should probably just change the theme to masks. You know it would. It would be a lot easier for everyone on. Today's show. Pan Democracy Wisconsin and then some headlines but first the latest we gotta I twenty four. I twenty four. Oh richer. Way I t's in the I two winters so that was matthew mcconaughey hosting Zoom Bingo game out of a senior facility in Texas. We love that. I honestly think that this is the height of his acting and talented stabilities. Give Him an Oscar for this but in serious news British Prime Minister. Boris Johnson's condition deteriorated yesterday as he was admitted to the Intensive Care Unit in the hospital. He is one of the first world leaders to be in critical condition from covet. An unfortunate turn for someone who initially mocked the corona virus crisis at the beginning of March stating quote. I'm shaking hands continuously. I was at a hospital the other night where I think there were actually a few corona virus patients and I shook hands with everybody. You'll be pleased to know. I continued to shake hands. So we will keep you posted on that. But on this side of the pond and internal government report highlighted the shortages. That hospitals are facing in the report. Hospital administrators said that conflicting guidance from Federal State and local governments on how to use personal protective gear and other issues has led to quote a greater sense of confusion fear and distrust among staff that they can rely on hospital procedures to protect them. The report comes from the Inspector General for the Department of Health and Human Services. It's based on interviews with administrators at more than three hundred hospitals nationwide and said that equipment provided to hospitals from the federal government fell far short of what was needed and sometimes not usable or of low quality. Yeah and this is something that's obviously been talked about. But now we have an official accounting from inside the administration right so now moving onto our focus for today. What's going on with elections? Starting with hot mess in Wisconsin. We're governor Iverson ordered voting to be postponed just one day before the election was set to take place and shortly thereafter. The Wisconsin Supreme Court blocked his order so the election will in fact take place today with tons of issues so gideon. Would you like to explain? Yeah tons of issues is right. So quick state of play here was seeking to very critical things with his executive order was the postponement of in person voting to June ninth and moving the deadline for counting mail in ballots until then as well so over the weekend I had called the state legislature in for a special session to work on moving the primary but the GOP controlled state legislature refused to budge. So that's why yesterday he tried to just postponed via the executive order. He had gone the other route. It didn't work but the Wisconsin Supreme Court decided that the governor doesn't have the power to move the election saying he needs to kick it back to the legislature. Yeah and this is all happening while Wisconsin is currently under a stay at home order Mail voting would be a great alternative. But you know there was also fighting in the courts about expanding and extending their vote by mail program. Yeah Yeah Wisconsin. Democrats filed A to extend the deadline for mail in voting given the pandemic and stay at home orders in the state. The idea was that more people would need to vote this way and it would be a scramble to get ballots in on time for voters and county clerks a lower court decided that yes voters could have more time to get their ballots mailed in but then. Republicans in the state appealed to the United States Supreme Court which ruled yesterday. That mail in ballots must be postmarked on election day and received by April thirteenth. So some people still haven't gotten the mail in ballot. They requested others might mail. There's in on time but they can't be sure it's received on time and that postmark requirement wasn't even in Wisconsin State Law in the first place. So they're just they're on. Spaghetti at the wall and everything too honest franchise voters I guess. Yeah while Mellon. Voting has all of those restrictions on it in person. Voting is not much better. There's obviously extremely curtailed things that are going on there. Thousands of poll workers have said that they will not be showing up today due to their own safety. Which makes sense to me at In Milwaukee is only going to be five polling locations and that's down from one hundred eighty so you know. Obviously that's crazy for a major city and we expect to see long. Lines OF PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY. GonNa be voting. Because that's just I mean ridiculous fraction of the original number. It's obviously dangerous okay. Well let's talk about what is actually up for election in Wisconsin yeah obviously. There's a Democratic presidential primary but there's also local elections as well. The Big One is the state Supreme Court election between incumbent Daniel Kelly and Jill Kharafi as well as thousands of other races that are underneath as well. Republicans want the incumbent candidates to win and to stay on the court which currently has a conservative majority. And it's this very court that decided not to allow the governor to postpone the election. So big picture here. Every other major voting contests that was set for April has been postponed or switch over to vote by mail besides Wisconsin. It is a huge outlier. And now you've got this nightmare situation. Where the conservative majority court has overruled the Democratic governor who can't get around it because of a Republican majority legislature all for the purpose of retaining and broadening this power despite the health risks. That are involved. Yeah it's just chaos you known for voting rights and for public safety. It's just you're right. A nightmare is the only way to describe it. You know yesterday. We talked to Wisconsin Lieutenant Governor Mandela. Barnes a personal friend of mine just after the Supreme Court decision came down and we wanted to get his reaction. You know the idea that we have is nonpartisan. Courses is a fallacy This is a totally political ruling. And we have a very conservative venture and Wisconsin. Unfortunately we see that lies or not being valued the lives of people who only want to exercise their right to vote. It is very frustrating that it has come to this and they are asking citizens residents of the State of Wisconsin to go out not people go out and blizzard here in Wisconsin. Vote you know we. We we whether a lot of literal and figurative storms to ask people to go out in the middle of pandemic to cast a ballot or else. Your Voice won't be heard or Osha voice doesn't matter essentially as what's being told to to the voters here in our state and is very shameful. And what do you think that people should do now? Kind of given all this confusion and essentially weighing the difficulty of wanting to participate in democracy and protect themselves at the same time I mean. That's a struggle with that A. I can't sit here and good faith and ask people to go out there and risk. Their safety to cast a ballot. That will be very responsible. Almost as irresponsible as the court has just been with this decision. That has been handed down So if you have your ballot which I hope you do. Please return your absentee ballot. Make your voice heard in now is putting so much stress on clerks stress on. Po Workers Election Volunteers I use the word chaos before. I use the word KS again. Because that's exactly what it is and honestly I do not have the answer. I don't I don't know what to tell people. I don't know what to say right now when it comes to when it comes to those who may be questioning whether they should go out to vote or not and I. They should be ashamed of themselves for that decision. Right this action. Sort of worry you about the state's ability to have a a safe and fair election come. November. It does give me concern. I mean I've always been concerned about the way that You know elections are handled especially again in the age of voter. Id laws swept the nation. After Barack Obama's election In many other tactics that have been that have been put in place to prevent people from voting when you know. It's a shame that they just won't respond to a-changing America. This is a resistance to change in America is why you see all these restrictions that are being put in place instead of saying. Oh well these are people within our state within our country we should we be conscious of their needs and we should respond to such given the fact that we're elected leaders they are choosing not to and they're deciding to go ahead and Just limit who can vote. This is another form of voter suppression and it does not make me sit It does not make me comfortable when I think about November. That was Wisconsin Lieutenant Governor Mandela Barnes. If you have your mail in make sure you mail it in by today indeed. Good to it. Great so the. Dnc was supposed to be happening this summer in Milwaukee but former vice president Joe Biden has now floated the idea of doing a virtual convention. You know I just. I feel bad for Wisconsin This is supposed to be there. You know they had the DNC the Milwaukee Bucks doing well everything cancelled any update on making sure you know we vote safely and fairly in November though so something can be a little bit of a light at the end of all of this. Yeah I mean we spoke with Senator Ron Wyden a little while back about his legislation on vote by mail was Senator Amy Klobuchar but in addition to that Democrats were trying to get vote by mail into the next Corona virus relief package which Republicans and the president do not want they have stated as much in the last groves package. There was four hundred million dollars. It was allocated for election security grants which can go towards the expansion of vote by mail and early voting. Though that is far from enough experts have said to actually help states prepare for this new reality right and voting by mail depends on the postal service which is very quickly running out of money. We're GONNA talk about that at length in the coming days but for now head over to votes America Dot Com to stay up to date on all the changing deadlines and requirements to vote in your state. They're keeping track of it so you don't have to so that's vote. Save AMERICA DOT COM Tuesday watts glad we got the pie. Going up. And you know what it's also time for daily friend check in Giddy. I've been reading lots of articles. About how many dressing presume. Shout out to the New York Times style section. So what's been your favorite outfit. You've worn to our beautiful zoom calls. I think it's for me more about the outfit. That is to come the day when we all wear our face coverings to the zoom. I think that's GonNa be a good check in for how safer all being and how stylish being in our homes while being safe. Yeah I mean I. I haven't allocated anytime to thinking about like VAT as a theme for calls we have done other theme days in our Su- for the show but maybe we will do like a protective equipment suv outfit day. I don't know I think we have to now. But what what's your what's your current. Stay home fit. I mean I have honestly never used my yoga pants for Yoga. It seems like they are the this is their super bowl. I'm wearing a lot of stretchy pants a lot of giant sweaters because La for some reason will not. Just stay over seventy degrees. I don't get it. My nose is very cold but you know it. It's a great. It's a great look and I'm glad I'm glad that I have these sweatshirts. It's good to stress test. All of our close right now. You know they could. They could use it yeah. I'm just hoping that when we get out of this world dressing like we're on fury road just OPIE and feature. I want SPIKY HAIR. White hair like no eyebrows. I wanted to get kind of spooky. I'm GonNa have the arm myself. I mean good go and and that was our temperature check. It was super easy. We both feel better forever. Gideon love his nickname. And we will check in again tomorrow and now for some ads. Okay so you might have time to sit and read but you might not have time to sit and read a thousand books which is where guests can come in my friends. It's a really unique APP and it works on your phone. Your tablet or your web browser it takes the best key takeaways. Just the needs no information from thousands of nonfiction books. And convinces them down into just fifteen minutes that you can read or listen to so you can catch up on. 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Let's wrap up with some headlines head aligns for the first time in. Us history the White House labelled a white supremacist group as a terrorist organization. Better hundreds of years late than never the group question is the Russian imperial movement a far right ultranationalist terrorist group which will no longer be allowed in the US and any assets they hold in the country will be blocked. The group gave military training to Neo Nazi fighters and helped carry out attacks targeting migrant communities in Sweden. Now it's good that the trump administration is recognizing the global threat of white supremacy. But there were crickets when a top counterterrorism official was asked about white supremacist groups based in the United States so the ACLU filed a lawsuit to block parts of Puerto Rico. Strict curfew under the current public health crisis. This marks the first lawsuit in U. S. territory related to cove in nineteen curfew. Currently the law orders people to stay home unless they have an essential reason to leave and it bans gatherings of people who aren't part of a quote family nucleus which I think means you can share a maximum of five pizzas at I don't know Police have already cited hundreds for breaking these rules the ACLU argues that the state doesn't get to decide who forms a family nucleus and said that the orders are too vague leaving lots of room for interpretation by police officers who haven't been properly briefed if it's five pizzas. I am my own family nucleus. Okay two giant pandas. At a lockdown Hong Kong Xue successfully made it on Monday for the first time in nearly ten years together to them on a horny quarantine guess. They feel more romantic when large families aren't walking around taking pictures of them. The Pandas Yang and Li Li are both fourteen which is above the panda age of consent and they entered their mating cycle in late March. That cycle is very short and includes just a few days of facility which is part of the reason why giant pandas are so bad meeting. Now I personally identify more with the tortoise at the zoo who has focused his time in quarantine on lying on his stomach and munching leafy. Greens cannot relate less to leafy Greens right. Mississippi Governor Tate Reeves quietly. Sign a proclamation. Last week to designate April as the state's confederate heritage month. Some people use Corentin to rate their king. Lear others use it to write love letters to fuck in Slavery Taint Reeves? Bronco Vision came two days after he issued a statewide order shutting down non-essential businesses in ordering residents to stay at home after weeks of overruling cities and towns in Mississippi. That we're trying to make their own stay at home orders. The governor has a lot of loser. I mean confederate heritage in his personal bio. He was a member of a pro confederate. Frat in college and belong to the sons of confederate veterans whose members claim. The civil war wasn't fought over slavery. I claim they can catch these. Fuck enhance these guys should at least be prepared for virus because they already wear big pointy white masks in public and those are the headlines. Off Today. If you like the show make sure you subscribe leave review build a bear until your friends. Listen and if you're into reading and not just any street side and you can see from your window like me. What a day is also a nightly newsletter check it out and subscribe at Cricket Dot Com Slash. Subscribe like us. I'm getting resnick and enjoy those leafy. Greens obese slowly moving around the apartment on my stomach eating them. I have given up on the produce hunt so far my leafy Greens pizza. What a day is a product of crooked media it's recorded and mixed by Charlotte Landis selling a ton is our assistant producer or head writer is John. 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