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Celebration of Life - Monthly Recap

Capt. Hunter's Podcast

38:29 min | 7 months ago

Celebration of Life - Monthly Recap

"And welcome to another episode of Captain Hunters podcast. Thank you so much for tuning being in a truly appreciate the love and support that you all have been giving thank you so much for what you all are doing to make this podcast to go into growth. Thank thank you so much they say when you enter the podcasting world that you should not always monitor your numbers. Keep track of numbers However I tend to be a little hard headed with that and I actually do follow the numbers so I wanNA say as at Christmas gift for the end of this month of December Christmas or Hanukkah? Whatever holiday you you celebrate the just put it like that but certainly in my case I take it as a Christmas gift that the numbers have grown much in for the month of December? I have had more active downloads this month than in the previous months and I wanna say thank you to the audience who was growing and going. I want to say thank you to those Members members of the audience who have been sharing liking subscribing. Thank you so much I appreciate. It is truly been paying off and I truly appreciate all that so as we usually do for the month of for the end of the month. We're going to do an end of the month. Wrap up now. I know that there's been much happening in law enforcement. I will not attempt to address all of these things but I just a few of them. I hope that everyone is having a very good safe productive holiday season. Whatever whatever it is you celebrate Kwanza Christmas or Hanukkah? Whatever it is you celebrate? I hope that your holidays are good. And you're enjoying the true spirit of the season which is about family which is about brightness in hope if we take a look at this time of year. We understand that it's really about The darkest time of the year the winter solstice being the the twenty first of December so the darkest time of the year and therefore we celebrate somehow some way in whatever fashion that is that the light has come back into the world or that the world is going to get lighter and brighter and everything like that. So if you're looking at it from that perspective I hope that everything within your life is going better as we enter into the new year. I hope that you have these thoughts on your mind as you enter into the new year as we have been starting a new segment. I have decided to a talk about how to make you the best you that you can be right how to make view the best you that you can be and so this new segment that we've been starting so I decided to incorporate that into this particular episode into the monthly. Wrap up so we can focus on a lot of things now i. I had something that I wanted to talk about. What let me does deviate and talk about something different? And that is how we deal with grief On Christmas Day no less. I had a member of my family pass away. It's incredibly hard during any time of the year. Let's just be honest about hi. This is going to be hard to deal with the debt no matter what the time of year is but we understand that number one death is inevitable bill and it's coming To each into every one of us I had my own scare and brush with death At least that's how I look at it any way with my triple bypass clearly. If I hadn't not had the medical insurance in the the wherewithal to go to the doctor I might not be able to be here today. I'm truly grateful Info for all the medical advances that we have had and everything else like that. But I wanted to talk about the celebration of life just for a few moments before we get into our typical monthly. Not Wrap Up. I WanNa talk about the celebration of life and what that means right so many times we we go to funerals in we grieve and our own way and these funerals While they are essentially religious ceremonies. Right it's important for us to be able to gre- in our own way. We are going to miss our loved ones we are going to think about our loved ones And sometimes there can be a little bit of a guilt that is felt by those who have been left behind. And so I I wanna say to you the loved ones. You should not feel guilty. You should not feel any type of remorse for what what happened. Try to get over any type of feelings of remorse or guilt or negative feelings about The passing of a loved one one. We understand that sometimes people are taken away from US way too soon right through traumatic injuries. Accidents Diseases But what we can do in the meantime is try to make the best of the time that we have with each and everyone of us I know this does not sound comforting as as we go forward but try to as you dealing with the passing the loss of a loved one. Think about the good time that you had think about the time that they laughed that you made them laugh that they made you laugh. Think about the Times that they helped you the time that you help them the Times as they were there for you the Times you were there for them. Think about the good times and celebrate their life. Make sure that you take this time. As we as many Christians will celebrate the life coming thing into the world right the light and the life coming into the world they celebrate this and so I want you to celebrate the life of a loved one whether a person person is here right now. One of the best things that I've ever heard is to give someone their flowers while they can smell them. So take this time as we enter turn to the new year as we celebrate Christmas or Hanukkah holidays whatever holiday you celebrate take this time to celebrate the life of the loved one around you while you have them that life that the baby that was born into the world that toddler that teenager full grown adult than midlife crisis adult in the elderly. About take time to celebrate their life give them their flowers while they can smell them. Enjoy your time around them. I know it's hard to lose loved. Loved ones in words really can't fix the pain. Only time heals the wound in time things will get better in. In the meantime celebrate their life. Look at pictures. Look at videos talk about them. Keep their memory alive through discussions passing down any saying that they had listened to the music that they loved. Listen to the poems that they may have written. Look the artwork that they may have drawn Celebrate their life and don't just think about what you have missed yes we will miss them yes they will be missed. yest- just the pain of the loss in the sorrow that we feel is it hurts sometimes to the bone but just continue to focus on the good parts of their life. Continue to focus on everything that was good and positive how they made your life better if I can recall. Recall back to my former days being a crisis intervention officer. We understand that there are different ways that people deal with loss and grief and so people grieve in different ways. Don't let anyone ever tell you that the way that you're grieving isn't right. If you WanNa cry and cry let it out if if you don't WanNa cry don't let someone talk you into crying. Be Real in your emotions be real in your sympathy. Be Real in your empathy. Be Real in your grieving living process. I think there's a there's a few things that we have to really understand and that's to acknowledge. The pain acknowledged the in fact. You are going to miss. This person. Acknowledged it's okay. You're going to miss this person. They made you laugh. They made you cry. They made you sick sometimes. Sometimes sometimes you wanted them to leave other times. You could not wait to be in the presence. Just acknowledge your pain in as I said before right does is no right way to more. There's no right way to go through laws. Go through in your own way and in your own time you gotta take some time off from work you have to take some time away from the kids do what you have to do. In order to to really get through and get to the heart of the matter you might also want to seek support sometimes. That support is religious support. It can be a family and friends support. Sometimes some people don't want to be alone. That's okay it's Takeda. Don't WANNA be alone seek out the people that you respect and want to be around. Seek those people out who have that encouraging word and if someone's is coming to you be that encouraging shoulder for them to cry on be that person that they can go to have that encouraging word and sometimes you don't even have to say anything sometimes There's always this push to say something you know to make the pain go away but sometimes just listening to them. Let him cry just wiping their tears and just being Sympathetic shoulder for them to cry on. Sometimes that's just enough and Let me just finish this off with saying sometimes if the grief can last too long then we can get in fall into depression so just keep an eye on that and If you have a loved one who is going through some type of mourning process assis or through the grieving process. A let them go through it but Just keep an eye out for it in case it goes a little too long in they slip into depression where they don't ever want to go back to work or maybe they don't want to Go back to their normal daily activities right eventually. We have to get back to living. And that's that seems harsh but it's true we have to go back to living those loved ones if they really loved us and we we really loved them they would understand that you have to get back to living at some point at some place in time. We have to get back to daily routines and things as normal. But in the meantime don't be afraid to grieve and to mourn into go through that process the best that you can don't be afraid to cry so we all know about the five the stages of grief right we have. I The denial. I can't believe this loved one is gone something like that. We can be mad that the next stage would be anger I mad about what's going on young. Be Mad at God or mad at the higher power. Whatever you call that that this thing was going on the next phase will be bargaining bargaining? I'll do anything to get this person back in my life. God if I can just have a few more minutes just one more day with person depression. That's that's the point where we talked about before where we're just too sad to get anything done You know we can't get back to work. We can't get back to functioning normally and then of course black lace is acceptance this acceptance. Is You know just a place where we need to get to in all of our lives. Won't we deal with grief and with loss the place where we are at peace with what happened. We may never like it. We may not accept it as as something that we take positive additive but we understand that has happened and we understand that we need to pick ourselves up if you will dust ourselves off and keep going on so i. I know it's hard I know it's tough To those people who have lost people during this holiday season my condolences to you as I said I lost one of my own family members verse He will be missed in DUB. We're going to go through the process next week. We'll be coming back at you going to be continuing with our homework and with our homework assignments you know as we talked about What do you WanNa do following homework assignment? was you know what stopping you. The homework for this week is as we go into the new year. What are you new year's plans? I'm not talking about resolutions that we all come up with and we quit two weeks after into the month. But what are we really going to do it. In order to make is better. How about this as a homework assignment? Going forward for twenty twenty as we go into the new year. How about We make sure that we give those people in our lives the flowers while they can smell them. How about we do that? How if we could all do that? We're going to a new year. How `Bout we really let? Go those grudges. Let go those grievances. Let go those hurts and pains and let's try to make twenty twenty a better year emotionally emotionally for us as we all know that we are not guaranteed to be here for a very long period of time so if we can just make sure that we are going to make sure that this year that the next year twenty twenty as a better year than it was right. Get rid of those of all that baggage. It's not worth it We're only here for short period of time and his no sense in being mad and angry and not talking to people for long periods of time. So those family members that you're not communicating with how much communicate with them. You don't have to be around them. I'm not saying that I have to be around them all the time but I am saying. Did you. Not to hold grudges. I am saying that so they try to make that a homework assignment for all of us as we go forward. So let's get into the monthly rap as usual. There's a lot of different stories though we we could talk about. I can't discuss every single story out there but the major stories I think our talking about I wanNA talk about. Is the Michael Bell Story Guys. Go back and listen to the Michael Bell Story on the PODCAST. It was an episode that I called Culture of corruption Michael Bell Senior. His son Michael Bell L.. Junior was killed by the Kenosha. Wisconsin Police Department ever since two thousand four he has been on a crusade to get justice into find out the truth and for the For for him to find out the truth and for the Kenosha Police Department in Kenosha Wisconsin Community to find out the truth behind what happened to his son. Well he and and His team had submitted about fifteen hundred page document to the mayor's office to the powers that be within Wisconsin and the mayor there mayor enter into Romanian him saying that name right. Anti Roman A. N. T. A. R. A. M. A.. The end quickly dismissed the bell family. Fifteen hundred page complaint regarding the death of Michael Bell Junior so Michael Bell seniors continuing the fight the fight. Apparently the mayor there is not going along with the findings of the fifteen hundred. Page report. so I do plan to reach out to Michael Bell senior again to seal become back on the podcast. See what's is going to be going on from this point. The mayor has refused to has dismissed it. So what's the plant go to any higher ups Any further lawsuits. And just so we'll see what's going on with that so stay tune with that particular story I think in a very curious oriented. According to my mind. Is that the Austin. Police Department is going to be suspending some training because of one of the the cadets there as alleged some racism you know I get tired of these racism claims by police officers now cadets. I always believe what's going on in newspaper articles but this comes from the statesman dot com posted a December second twenty nineteen training halt amid racism pro would affect one police cadets class next year COUNCILMEMBER says So apparently apparently somebody on this In the police academy they're claiming that they're systematic racism going on the Austin Police Department and and because of this they're gonNA be suspending training and The going to be doing an investigation discipline the article anonymous complaints publicized in early November accused accused former assistant chief just newsom of using racist language to refer to President Barack Obama former COUNCILMEMBER or a Houston former assistant and chief. Frank Dixon into Boris. Climb to the highest ranks Awesome Police Department newsom abruptly retired shortly before the complaints were circulated when people retire. That's always some kind of sign that something's going on Sunday You know so you know this this whole thing that what what people are saying in the dark and when they're When they don't think that anyone's listening and they don't think they're being recorded is really come to light in? It's really disturbing and truly disgusting lasting that we had to continue to deal with this. You know if any of this is true. So obviously they're going to be doing it up probe down in Austin Texas to see what's going on here but We'll see continuing. What the article? Since those documents were made public city leaders had been wrestling with how best to investigate and addressed the alleged culture of racism. Isn't that allow newsom to rise the highest levels of the force So we gotta continue on with that and another similar story and other high ranking official in Florida was overheard on tape body cam footage telling her subordinates to pull over a black man and act to like a Neo Nazi white supremacist. And all that kind of crazy nonsense so I I. I listened to the tape as well. I think that you all should listen into the tape as well in the sense that I get from this officer from this captain in our reloaded from it before I get into but I do want to kind of paint the picture a little bit what. I think that the captain was saying is that I want you to treat this man in a fairly firm rough manner right in order to get him to comply now I lament her choice of words and saying that. Treat him as a racist cop at clear league with the climate that were that were living. We should not be okay with that and let me just say for the record. I'm not okay with that but I think that that was her purpose and her point now whether she really harbors racist animus towards any other people. I certainly don't know. Oh I don't know the lady but I don't know the police captain but I think that that was her purpose and point in saying that so just a little bit from this. The head of the Monroe Enro- county sheriff's Officer Office Major Crimes Unit was relieved of her command this week following the release of an audio recording. In which is heard ordering one of her officers to pull over a black man who is a suspect in a key west murder and act like a white supremacy neo Nazi cop to get information from him Monroe. Sheriff Rick Ramsey pulled Captain Penny Phelps. That's the woman who made made the statements from the late two twenty seventeen scene case in October when he became aware of the recording which is agency turn over to defense attorneys. He also initiated in internal affairs probe into helps conduct which she had in the investigation into the so-called treehouse. Murder which happened November. Seventeen twenty seventeen on stock island so this is an old case. This information was turned over to the defense attorney. And so this twenty nineteen now right. So it's it's two years later when we're hearing about the story so once again you know. What's the news? Media gets gets wind of this kind of stuff on obviously put it out in into the ether to stoke the flames of everything now clearly clearly. This woman should not have made that but I think once again like I said I think that the reason that she said it is because she wants to be to create this intimidating presence For this officer. She wanted the officer to create an intimidating presence so that the suspect in the case would be so intimidated and be willing to give up the information essentially really right. There's different techniques and tactics officers will use in order to elicit information from people and one of them that works many times is that intimidation factor her and so this is one of the factors which she was I think was trying to Get get to the point of. What's curious is that the sheriff knew about about this two years ago and didn't do anything about until twenty nineteen now that is curious and that does present a problem for the sheriff and him not doing what he should have done when he first became aware of this in twenty seventeen continuing with the article? Phelps was removed from her post as head of the major crimes and narcotics on Wednesday. According to paper work released used to the Miami Herald on Saturday Ramsey said it was too early investigation to come on whether helps could lose her job so this sheriff ariff sat in this information for two years then once it comes to light once a Miami Herald gets a hold of it and that's the article where Marine is from the Miami Herald Dot Com. Once they get a hold of it then everything blows up and now he's got to put this. He's got to relieve her of command and all that kind of stuff. If there's any supervisors out there. We're who are listening to managers heads of departments. You GotTa do what you gotTa do. You GotTa do it in. This is part of the problem. That really hampers the relationship between the community and the public public. They don't feel as if there's any trust if you come across on the happens to you. You got a handle that stuff immediately. There's no what are you waiting. Two years for before it becomes out until the OPIOID and if you took tell people about things when they happen we could deal with the public would have more faith in your institution in your organization if you were up front and honest about it. This is the problem that we had the lack of transparency sitting on something for two years until the newspaper gets a hold hold of it is a problem continuing with the same line of reasoning in Temple Texas. There was a man who is just shot by police. This comes comes from K.. C. E. N. T. V. dot com. And this is called. The `Artemis Articles Family seeks answers. After son killed an officer involved shooting right. This this is temple Texas. Says he's twenty eight years old early in the month of December. One of the biggest problems is that is with this is we. Don't even know what happened. I've heard news. Reports demand. went out about one. Thirty in the morning The Temple Police Department show up at his house and tell them me. Tell the family that the man is dead. The only thing that they understand is that he had an interaction with the police officer and that he that he is now deceased According to articles that I've have read the Tampa. Police Department is not releasing any information they are saying to contact the Texas Rangers who have taken over the investigation and the Texas Rangers are not releasing any information so this family according to K. C. E. N. T. dot com article as well as the VK W T X DOT COM article There's no information coming out right. There's an attorney there. Lee Merritt representing the family of this Michael Nickel Dean the deceased man and so the. The family doesn't know what happened was at a traffic stop was the man. Shoplifting was the main just walking down. The street was what what caused interaction between him. The police police have not informed. The family of what's going on in this again creates the problems between the police and the community no transparency. At least the officers should give press conferences. The what happened and many of these places many of these laws within offend people's jurisdictions the laws are the ones that are pro prohibiting police departments from releasing any information in so I I would say that if you live in a jurisdiction where it is forbidden by law that police departments shed light on the and the the ongoing investigation. Then you should be petitioning that the laws change at least some type of press conference to give a least the dates the Times. Sometimes the the name of an officer The circumstances behind it. What's going on In if obviously there's some certain sensitive information that cannot or should not be released because of the ongoing investigation right names of suspects and things like that then obviously That information should be kept secretive to to to a certain degree but whatever information can be released should be released and it should be released in a fairly timely manner. The state's attorney in Cook County. Kim Fox's begin the process of of expunging. The names people who have been have marijuana convictions. Don't Miss Fox has been catching a lot of flack for her stance on a number of things the way she handled the Jesse slowly or as or as a As they sell says Giusti's moulay smooth the way that she has handled that case Regard regardless I think that if the legalization of marijuana is a growing trend in an is being hotly debated in Illinois that I think that if it's going to be legalized and people making taking money from it with the growing hemp farms and CBD farms and and all this Kinda stuff then why should people have their lives trashed and destroyed and ruined because because they have these convictions for marijuana on their records. So I am in in that case in that manner told him in favor of the expunging of criminal records of people who have been convicted. The marijuana sold in marijuana crimes so I think that that's a very vital thing and I think that's a very good thing for Kim Fox in Maryland Moesby done in Baltimore or in any other states turning across the country who is deciding now that that arresting charging prosecuting people for small possessions of marijuana in or past marijuana convictions should have their records expunged in keep in mind. It's not just a herd. That's doing right. She's presenting this information to judges and the judges are also agreeing that these people should have their records expunged so in New Jersey. There was a shootout. We all may have heard about that when a couple couple of I believe there were African Americans Went into a Jewish community into a grocery store and start a blazing away in Jewish Communities Grocery store tragic tragic Should not have happened. Mentally disturbed people terrorist acts. Whatever it was should not be doing this condemn this all the way around? Before before they went to the grocery store they shot up a police officer a thirty nine year old detective from Jersey City Police Department Dot Joseph Seals. He he was killed. You know this is just a tragic tragic incident so the officers dead three civilians dead. That two two suspects are dead. Once again we gotta take a look at his gun debate. How they get these guns? Do they have anything in their background. That were they part of any black. Supremacist groups we're not just going to talk about the white supremacist groups and the negative away but also have to talk about black supremacist groups or any type of terrorist group so thoughts surly and concerns. Go out to this family of the detective and also to the family of a any family members of the Jewish grocery stores occupants keeping with the same line of thought you know we had the training at the military base. He mounted a deadly attack. Members of the Saudi Air Force killed three people at the Naval Air Base in Pensacola Florida. So you know this. This is crazy stuff. You know who knows what's going on. Obviously that's going to hurt the the relationships between the Saudi Air Force in the United States Air Force or nights states naval force the United States military. Obviously I'm sure there's already the vetting process for who can be accepted here But that's just going to continue to grow the concerns about the that people have or other people right. People have for other people for others. Brian put that in quotation marks others. Write these others ride the Saudis these black people these Jewish people these white people. You know these others we gotta get into our minds all one human family in until we get that reminds. You know we're GONNA continue to look at people through the xenophobic land. We're GONNA continue to her people. Shoot people lie to people to see people and think that other people are the cause of your problems. If you've living in the black community you think Jewish people all of the reason that you're living in in depressed conditions than you're wrong then you're wrong right. Look at we have to look at ourselves and say what is that we can do about ourselves in order to make ourselves better few come over to this country from another country. And you are looking at whatever's going on and you want to take your anger your frustration. Asian out on the Americans and shooting up their military bases. What good do you think that's going to? What is the end result of that right? Terroristic acts don't work terroristic Acts don't work. I wish that people would get that through their heads. One of the last things I want to talk about is I read. two-star heard about two stories in this December twenty nineteen about people who were hacking into security cameras. Baby monitors things like that. So if you have one of he's I I would suggest that you really if you have some kind of baby monitoring system or even a Wi fi digital nanny cam or anything like that that where people can see your child to see into your home or listen to your child to listen to your home. I really highly suggested you take any in all precautions that you look this information to due to make sure that your home is secure. Do some research on the Internet and figure out what you can do to keep your family safe so NBC News Public. Something talking about this phenomenon actually was back in November But I heard another story in December talking about this phenomenon in which people were hacking into nanny any cans baby camps baby monitors whatever you WanNa call them and speaking to the child looking at the child and all that kind of crazy stuff so do what you gotTa do to make. Sure that your home secured make she she contact your ISP. Your Internet service provider. See if they got some extra firewalls whatever they have to make sure that you and your family are safe. Not only this holiday season going into twenty twenty in the last story that I wanNA give you guys comes in the world from what the what just law enforcement sometimes we do the craziest and silliest things so check this story out this comes from the Washington Post and the says a deputy Wti burglarized grieving families homes during funerals officials. Say Then Khokar workers recognized her. So essentially. This woman Janelle Greco correct. I believe I spelling her name saying her name. Right G. E. R. I C. K. E. Twenty nine years old was charged with felony burglary. She was a A corrections officer in Wisconsin. So she would what she would do as she would go over the obituaries. Learn when funerals were taking place place and then burglarize homes when the families were at the burglary When the families were at their funeral so I gotta regional bit of this? What was going China once again from the Washington Post a criminal complaint from the Washington Department of Justice Lists Seven instances between February twenty eighteen and June twenty nineteen where the former deputy successfully broke into a strangers home or was spotted lurking outside houses that she had reason to believe would be empty if for calculations turned out to be wrong state? Investigators say directly would quickly make up a story when one family returned home from a funeral and found her standing in their kitchen she. She claimed that she had been hired to clean the house on multiple occasions. She explained that she was trying to pick up furniture or baby goods. She arranged to buy facebook marketplace and then she said she must have written down the wrong address and so does she lives in a town where there is about eight thousand people so again back to the article on Halloween last year. Prosecutors say a couple of getting ready to go trick or treating notice. They woman standing on their patio appearing into their house through the door when the wife life approached she realized that the stranger was actually directed correctly. Who worked for with her father at the Jefferson County sheriff's office and also belong to his bowling bowling team? I didn't know this was your house. Greg allegedly told woman she explained. She was trying to buy a shelf that she had seen facebook marketplace giving being a name and address that the couple did not recognize then in January authority. Say He's one of direct. Co workers spotted her while patrol Jefferson Jefferson County Sheriff's department. David Doron had been driving. Pass a home. Beloved local firefighter who was fatally hit by a car while trying to rescue a stranded motorists Annette and was surprised to see someone standing on the front porch of his memorial home taking place when he stopped he realized that it was directly. who was pregnant at the time? She claimed claim that she was trying to buy us baby gear of facebook marketplace and had no idea. She was actually in the deceased firefighters house. So this is what this woman. When this this law enforcement official a former law enforcement official would do? She would burglarize people's homes when they were away are going trick or treating or just just craziness I mean I. I would assume that in her line of where she had access to overtime or whatever so who knows what was going on ladies mind but Just an absolutely absolutely absolutely crazy story. So That's it ladies and gentlemen that's it for the month. I really hope that As we close out twenty nineteen that you guys would really consider. We talked about before making sure that twenty twenty is going to be better than twenty nineteen. Whatever your goals are as far as you know your diet? Your exercise is your health. Your family relationships that you really take the steps towards the right direction to make sure that those things are going the way that they should be going give people their flowers while they can smell them make your life make it the best it can be invested. It should be said goals and dreams that a realistic right. Sometimes things that are just unrealistic in a one of the best pieces of advice that I heard and I think that this can can really go towards a number of different things. Is that if you change something small about your life life you know. People make these drastic changes in the reason that they do not work as because they're too drastic too big and they cannot be sustained so what people people should do as they should change something small about their life. If every morning you go to your local donut shop right and you get a coffee with a donut. Well if you replace that donut with an apple then you made a you made a really big significant change in calories and all that kind of stuff and so for launch If you've always eating chips for your salad or with the you know if you're always ate a burger chain to to a salad or banana right small incremental changes which can be sold lasting and I think that not only am I talking about Diet but just getting up going for a walk calling someone that you haven't called in a while loving someone one just taking the small steps right so think about what whatever big thing you WanNa do and take the small step to get there right if you WANNA lose ten pounds a month. which is doable? It had to start small and so it starts right would ex- a little bit of Diet little bit exercise. You wanted to go for an hour walk but just fourteen take a walk right park a little bit farther away from the convenience store or from the grocery store and walked through the parking lot that that gives. Did you a little more exercise so start off small and then worked towards those bigger things. And so. That's what I want us all to focus on for twenty twenty. Thank you so much for tuning coming in and I hope that you are learning something that we are taking this ride along together in. Remember for a homework assignment is just to make sure that we are. You're giving those roses those flowers to people while they can smell the mixed. Make time for this next year to build those relationships to restore those relationships nations ships into appreciate people And if you had to cut people off the nuts fine too but I'm asking you not to harbour any ill will towards people because that can be talks just as toxic. DOC suggest as well Make sure that we celebrate life so celebrate life in twenty twenty in this holiday season as we bring in New Year celebrate life. And that's it ladies and gentlemen. Please make sure that you rate subscribe and share. We still have a lot of great episodes coming up a lot of great interviews and we're going to continue to build this relationship between the police and the public no matter how hard people try to go opposite direction. We're going to pull them in the right direction right so in the meantime here's a second homework assignment. Check on to see wherever you live at. What are the laws US related to the police department releasing information? If you live in a place where it's actually illegal state law right. These are legislatures. Were passing these laws trying to make sure that trying to make sure for whatever reason that Officers or police departments do not release information. Then see what you can do to go about changing laws find out. Is that the law. Find out why. That's law maybe. There's a good reason for it. I would highly doubt because I think that transparency is the key. But if that's the way then see see what you can do. In order to write your elected officials to see how we go about changing that law so we can get transparency. We that's what we want is transparency. Yeah so that's at latest gentlemen. Romy homework assignments give those people those flowers while they can smell them. Check out to see what you can do in order to change the laws concerning concerning the releasing of information by police departments in your local municipality in in your State that's ladies and gentlemen much love and peace.

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Apr 06, 2020

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Apr 06, 2020

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Tiffany Osborne who was last seen in midfield in late February. New York Rapper Takashi. Six nine was granted early release from prison due to corona concerns finally in Colorado. There are multiple reports fake cops conducting traffic stops Clinton to be checking compliance with the Kobe. Nineteen state home order all this and more coming up on certain scale daily last Tuesday. The bodies of married couple were discovered in a ditch in the Arboretum at the University of Wisconsin Madison. The deaths were ruled a double homicide. Police say that the killings were deliberate and the couple were specifically targeted to teenage suspects have been arrested at least one of whom knew the victims and their family. The bodies of fifty two year old Dr Beth porter and her husband fifty seven year old Robin car were discovered by a jogger on the grounds of the university. Wisconsin Arboretum in Madison. They were lying in a ditch near the entrance to the wooded park car was pronounced dead at the seen. Dr Puerto was rushed to a hospital where she succumbed to her wounds. The manner of death was ruled a homicide. Autopsies found that the couple suffered homicidal trauma. Police have not released any additional details. But according to w MTV Channel Fifteen multiple residents in the area reported hearing gunshots on Friday the University Wisconsin Police Department announced the arrest of the. I suspect eighteen year old. Korry Sanford Sanford was arrested on Thursday night on tentative charges of being party to two counts of first degree. Intentional Homicide University Wisconsin police chief. Kristen Roman said quote. This was not a random act. It was calculated cold blooded and senseless according to Friday statement the murders were planned and the couple specifically targeted. Sanford is known to the victim's family. He's a senior attending the same high school as one of the victims daughters last year. Sanford was arrested for auto theft late Friday night. Police arrested a second suspect. Eighteen year old leisure ru Larousse facing the same tentative charges of being a party to two counts of first degree intentional homicide. Police have not released information about the relationship between the ruined Sanford but they attended the same school last year. The University of Wisconsin. Please thank public tips for leading to the arrest and requested additional information during this ongoing investigation. Dr Porter was a physician working at a Family Medical Center. Robin car was an educational advisor. The couple had three daughters. Our next story brings us to Alabama. Al Dot Com reports. That body discovered in Bessemer. Last week has been identified as thirty year. Old Tiffany Osborne. A mother of three from Midfield Alabama. Osborne was reported missing in February. Her death is being investigated as a homicide on Wednesday morning. A worker cutting grass at an industrial area in Bessemer found a decomposing body wrapped in cloth and hidden under a mattress. The body was found at the end of an unfinished road in an area. That has become an unsanctioned dumpsite. It was suspected from the start that the body belonged to Osborne and the identification was positively verified during autopsy on Thursday tiffany. Osborne was last seen on February seventeenth. Twenty Twenty Osborne's. Mother told dateline that Osborne had been living in midfield with her boyfriend of two years and their three month old baby when her boyfriend reported her missing two days later on February nineteenth he told investigators. The Osborne left the house around eleven pm to buy cigarettes at a nearby convenience store. Please checked and discovered that by eleven. Pm The stored closed no-one working at the store reported seeing Osborne. Her boyfriend told police that he fell asleep with the baby while waiting for her to return and woke up the following day to find the she was gone however he didn't report her missing immediately. Bessemer police lieutenant. Christian Clemens told People magazine last week that the department quote has a known suspect out there. He would neither confirm nor deny. The suspect was Osborne's boyfriend but did say that he was quote someone that we need to closely at. He had the most contact with her and the last contact with her Osborne had two older children. Seven twelve years old. Who were staying with her mother. Kathy all three of Osbourne's children are now being cared for by Kathy. We'll keep you updated as the story continues to develop. This next story brings us to New York Brooklyn Rapper Daniel Hernandez better known as Takashi. Six Nine was awarded Compassionate early release from prison last week. Hernandez was serving a two federal sentence and was due to be released in August. The twenty three year old suffers from severe asthma. His lawyers appealed for early release at the end of March arguing. That he was especially vulnerable. They also said that against medical orders. Prison officials were preventing Hernandez from going to a hospital for asthma treatment. Federal prosecutors initially objected to early release but last Wednesday. They removed their objections and his order of Compassionate. Release the US District Court. Judge wrote quote. Kobe nineteen presents a heightened risk for incarcerated defendants like Mr Hernandez who suffer from respiratory diseases. Such as asthma the crowded nature of jails such as the one where. Mr Hernandez housed present a risk that the Kobe. Nineteen contagion wants it. Gains entry will spread and realistically a high risk inmate who contracts the virus while in prison will face challenges in caring for himself. Hernandez was arrested in two thousand eighteen and charged with racketeering drug trafficking and gun charges along with other members of the New York. Street gang the nine. Trey Gangsta bloods. He was facing a maximum of thirty years in prison but made a deal to provide information to the prosecution and testify against his co-defendants. According to federal prosecutors the information they received from Hernandez was quote incredibly significant and extremely useful and lead to multiple codefendants pleading guilty in two thousand Nineteen Hernandez testified for three days and the trial of two alleged gang members. They were both found guilty in two thousand Nineteen Hernandez was sentenced to two years after already spinning a year and a month in custody because of his cooperation with Federal Government Hernandez was permitted to spend the rest of his incarceration in a private prison in Queens where he was supposed to be safe from retaliation. The judge delayed making the release order public by twenty four hours allowing federal marshalls time to Transport Hernandez to an undisclosed location. He will spend the remainder of his sentence under house arrest there. Hernandez is only one of several famous inmates asking for release due to the corona virus pandemic which is expected to spread rapidly in crowded prison facilities. Bill Cosby R. Kelly's lawyers have also appealed for release. Their cases have not been decided yet after the break. Fake cops in Colorado have been pulling over drivers and questioning them about the cove. Nineteen stay at home order if cats could talk. They'd probably say exactly. What's on their mind? Feed me pet me okay. That's enough padding me. Your hand is now the enemy but wouldn't it be nice if cats tell when something's wrong. Cats are notorious for hiding their illnesses but with pretty leaders helped detecting formula. There are no secrets. 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Make the switch to pretty litter today by visiting pretty litter dot com and use Promo Code daily for twenty percent off your first order. That's pretty littered dot Com Promo Code Daily for twenty percent off pretty litter dot COM. Promo Code daily now for our final story of the day. The Denver Post reports multiple incidents of common person eaters taking advantage of the corona virus pandemic to prey on drivers on March twenty six. A woman was pulled over in Fort Collins Colorado by man and white van with red and blue lights on the windshield. The man who was wearing black but did not show a. Badr identify himself told the driver he was checking verify that she was complying with Colorado. Stay at home order. The man asked for the woman's license registration and proof of Insurance and took the documents back to his van for several minutes. Finally he returned the documents to the driver and allowed her to continue on her way. She reported the incident to the Fort Collins police after learning they were not performing any virus related. Traffic Stops Fort Collins Assistant Chief of Police John Faden told. Abc quote although we are still enforcing traffic laws we are not making traffic stops related to Cova nineteen. Unfortunately criminals in this country are taking advantage of the situation and many shapes. Fake roadblocks have also been seen in Greeley Colorado. Several drivers there reported being directed through a funnel type roadblock and questioned about their compliance with a stay at home order this past Friday. The woman reported being stopped by men impersonating police officers. Who had set up an area marked by traffic cones? They directed cars through the block and had three or four silver cars parked by the road. The driver also reported seeing multiple people wearing yellow visibility. Jackets reported being questioned for ten minutes before being permitted to go on her way. Another woman was stopped by fake hop and accused of breaking the curfew after letting her go. The Fake Cup followed the woman's car to her house. Greeley police have confirmed they were not involved in setting up. These roadblocks similar reports have been received from three more towns in Colorado and according to The New York Times. They cops have been taking advantage of the current situation in other states including California in Georgia in Lodi California. A man pretending to be a cop stopped. A resident in a park told him he was in violation of curfew and demanded a payment of one thousand dollars cash. In lieu of being imprisoned. The victim refused to pay in Jackson. County Georgia a man in a car with blue and red lights wearing black and a pinned on badge pulled over a dump truck driver and claim to be a sheriff's deputy. He then ordered the truck off the road telling the driver that he was a non essential employees. The Sheriff of Jackson County Janice Magnum told the times quote. There want to be police officers and the Krona viruses. Making it easier for them to do it. They're up to no good and it bothers me. Lod. Dr Market. Sell say an expert interviewed by The Times and said these are crimes of opportunity. Being the corona virus pandemic the increased regulation of public life. At the moment makes it easier for police impersonators. Were always around. Research has found three main groups of police person enters the first common criminals using the ruse to extort money this subtitle and similar to fake Park Monitor. Instant stride above another group impersonated cops to engage in sexual misconduct. Members of the third group are in Sheriff magnums WORD COM ONE AMIS. The pretense gives these types of ego boost. Some of the stops we mentioned may have been intended to steal money or information from drivers others seem to have no point beyond allowing the suspect exercise power over another person satisfying their egos. If you suspect you're being pulled over by a COP impersonator call nine one one and has to verify identity of the police vehicle if you must pullover pullover and well let populated area. That's it for today's episode of sort n scale daily. We'll see back here tomorrow and until then stay safe. Scaled daily is an incongruity media production. Your host was Ryan Williams Research and writing garage executive producer. Mike Day if you like the show subscribing leave us a review if you bite. The writers with feedback suggestions use the email address daily. It's WINDSCALE DOT com. Do you need something to listen to next. We'll check out this other show from Cast Media Jacob Tula I'm Jamie BB and we're your host of circle talking in each episode. We're going to bring you a new stalking case covering the INS and outs of each stalker. Their victims and their shoulders. If you have any weapon yes what is he? Is it a gun nine? She hated me so much. She found my stepmother Brendan her and then was caught. Making a plan to attack me with my stepmother he shows up to my gallery and he's wearing a space suit. He looks at me and he goes. You look like Jessica Rabbit and Lee Lou from the Fifth Element and then he looks at me very intensely and he goes and I'm GonNa Stock You. We hear about the cops not really doing anything or not. Really caring about the crimes talk a lot of the shaming doctors the Predator. Who'd been stalking me for. Forty four years was starting to really interfere with my life and my freedom a lot more than he had been one of those random messages on my idea it was like I'm coming in all see on this date. 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The Skeleton by the Lake

Latino USA

22:56 min | 1 year ago

The Skeleton by the Lake

"Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from Fidelity Investments, taking a personalized approach to helping you grow and protect your wealth. Learn more at fidelity dot com slash wealth. Fidelity brokerage services LLC. Okay. So there are a couple of places. You gotta go to before you leave your because we have a criminal. This is Lieutenant Dave Walden with from the Racine. Wisconsin police department Racine is a city of about eighty thousand people sandwiched between Milwaukee. And Chicago is a criminal is a pastry that is in like a long flats Donut shape. It's filled with jellies cherry pecan strawberry. Blueberry? Then they put her nights producer Maggie freely is in Lieutenant William it's police SUV, and he's taking her to the re seen waterfront of Lake Michigan. Tell you what you really just perpetuate its in cop stereotypes talking about a Donut. Tell you what firefighters will eat us under the table any days. But there's a lot more to welcome its job than comparing crinkles. So you have a bullet professional. Yeah. I any time we go out we need. We have here on the way things are. The park at a boat launch and get out of the car. They walked towards the water cross a bike path and reached the shore which is lined with boulders and rubble, but basically down in here, and it's got to be probably the whole you're standing over or you know, one right next to it, which is where he was spotted. So this is the place where the body of Antonio Guerrero was found right here in the rocks and the break waters right at the fifth street bowl launch Thirty-one-year-old. Antonio ghettos remains were discovered in November of twenty eleven right. Where Maggie and Lieutenant welcome with our standing a man and his son were walking along the rocks when they spotted the body and at the time there were very few clues as to who he was it was pretty much skeletal remains at that point. When the kid had seen it. He thought it was he thought it was a skull. But I think the dad initially thought that it was more of like a Halloween. Gene decoration or something the investigation into who that skeleton belonged to stretch from Racine to Waukesha to Texas and finally back to Illinois in involved, multiple agencies and a lot of dead ends. Ultimately, it wasn't until years later when Puerto Rican native could he St. nephew Soto of forensic anthropologists came along that they get rid of family finally got some answers. From NPR and media. It's let you know USA. I'm mighty no wholesome today. We're gonna talk about what one unidentified body in. Wisconsin reveals about the challenges of identifying Pino remains in the United States. This story comes to us from Latino say producer, Maggie freeling and Maggie will like seriously in our office. Everybody knows you're like a resident true crime nerd like this is your life. It's kind of embarrassing. But yes, I am obsessed with true crime. This is my life, and you've got this particular interest in forensics, which essentially is the science that is used to solve crimes. And in the case of today's story it's used to identify human remains. Yes. And so when I came across this story, I got to really dive into the world of forensic science and again through policy, and with that diving in I did put a microphone inside a human cadaver. Whoa. Okay. So that means for any of you who are a little bit squeamish. You have been warned. And so the story I'm going to tell today is about how forensic science helped a family that was dealing with the disappearance of a loved one. We were always close. Our family will always live. In the same house. So we would always see each other every day. This is Maria Santiago. She's twenty five and his Tonio Guerrero's niece. She and her on Tonio shared a home with several other family members all under one roof in Berlin, Illinois, right outside of Chicago Antonio Guerrero, came to the US from Durango Mexico when he was in his twenties. He never learned to speak, much English. But his niece Maria said he was a hard worker and built a good life for himself. He worked all kinds of jobs from construction to factory work. You name me. He will do with Maria remembers him fondly. She says he was married with two kids named Melissa and Louise on Tonio, and he was really generous whenever he had money or anything like that. He will love to, you know, invite his friends Guo, or as he would always asks you need money in he won't even think about twice, but until Neo had another side to in the beginning. He used to drink a natural much. But then the drinking got worse, and it started to worry the family, he wouldn't even work anymore. Four or anything like that in if he didn't drink. He would just be like shaking his hand will be shaking Morita says every car had he ended up crashing no one in the family. Understood what was going on with him. We always talked to him. You know, what's going on with what's making you drink this mod because you never used to be like that. But he never told us what it was. She says this one on for a few years, then Antonio his wife separated, and he continued to spiral sometimes our neighbors. They will call us. You know, we've seen your uncle. He will sleeping on the alley. 'cause obviously he was sold drunk. He couldn't make it to the house. But she says no matter how bad things with the drinking one thing was for. Sure, no matter if he was strong or intellect that he would always come home until one day. He didn't it was one Monday morning. I remember it was in September two thousand eleven key decided that he was going to go to a rehab center. I remember my grandma saying show you wanna go in. He was saying, yes, you know, I wanna get better for me, my kids, and you and so my grandma's started packing his things, and then they came for him in the morning two men came to the house to pick Antonio up. They gave on Tonio mama business card for the rehab center. He was going to Antonio said goodbye. And they left that was the last time his family saw him two days later, he called home saying he needed them to come get him. He sounded frantic like because everything's trap the following me in. He he. He said that he was hiding from them. We honestly didn't like believe him because he used to drink alaso. We didn't think much of it. But Marita says the family was still worried enough to drive three hours to receive to get him. They told him just stay put weight at a McDonald's were coming. But when they got to racing Antonio was nowhere to be found. We looked everywhere for him. We were asking around. They went to the rehab center. He was supposedly at and he wasn't there. Either. Marita says the facility was a come and go kind of place not a live in program. So we could leave if he wanted to staff at the center said Tonio had left, and they didn't know where he went Morita says they then tried to call the two men that took him to recede in the first place. They never picked up. So we started doing posters with his picture in Willie my phone number everything, and we pull you know, how you've seen him. We put them around all over the town. You know, it's a very small town. Somebody had seen him in somebody had a tunnels where he was Maria says there were few leads someone said they saw him at a homeless shelter. Another man says he took a bus with Antonio to Milwaukee. But nothing panned out two months after Tonio went missing in November two thousand eleven the human remains on Lake Michigan were discovered by the father and son. After Lieutenant Moga meth and his crew recovered. The remains the bones of a forearm at hand were also found a few weeks later about a mile away. Testing revealed. It was an adult male his twenties or thirties. But that was it a first officials thought it might be on Tonio. So they compared dental records, which is the most common and cost efficient way to idea remains, but the skeleton had had its wisdom teeth removed and record showed on Tonio Guerrero, still had his so he was ruled out as a match. The friends again formation for the remains was entered into Namus, the national missing and identified person system. And then the case went cold. There were no more leads the Guerreros waited and waited for five years. Those years were part of the hardest for my family my fault because we didn't know if he was alive or dead. Honestly, at the end, we were like, we just wanna know what happened to him. But then finally, a forensic anthropologist takes a second, look and everything changes. Stay with us. Nothing. Hey there. It's Joshua Johnson. The host of one eight on Fridays. We make sense of the world. It's your chance to catch up on the week's top stories and prepare for what's next. Check out the Friday news roundup in the one a podcast on the NPR one app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, we're back and insect temper of twenty eleven and you went missing in Racine, Wisconsin hours away from his home near Chicago. His niece meta says the last time the family spoke with him was acting strange, and they were worried two months later. Skeletal remains were found on the shoreline in the same town where on went missing. But dental records had ruled him out from being a match that USA producer Maggie freeling takes from here. Four years after Tonio went missing the still, no answers. But then Christina Figueroa Soto took on the case I was hired in two thousand fifteen and then one of my roles is to start looking into the coal cases. And trying to see if I can help and provide any new information. So Tonio case was the first one that I received Christina was hired by the. Medical examiner's office that had the Lake Michigan remains the office is about an hour away from racing Christina's thirty two she's a native of Puerto Rico, and a forensic anthropologist, basically, someone who studies human skeletal remains. I met Christina at the Waukesha county medical examiner's office. And as soon as I walked in. I noticed something. Is normal. This is Dr Linda Beatriz ski or doctor be she's the medical examiner who hired Christina. And she's right women make up at least seventy percent of forensic graduates in the United States compare that to the stem, workforce or SCI tech engineering and math as a whole were women make up only twenty four percent. One expert. I talked to says this is particularly because the rise in popularity of shows that feature forensic scientists like NCIS CSI Ambonese a lot of the main characters are women, but I'm affronts against politics. They know how to say skull and just about every language we tell you something lady if you don't care about catching the suspect. Neither do we do in kill me without leaving any friends against behind yet. You mentioned that good. But Christina doesn't even watch those shows I used to used to when I was in high school not anymore. I can't out annoys just. It's funny. It's like a can watch arms. She says she actually got into forensics because at the end of the day, I can identify someone and I can bring closure to someone but to work in this field. You also have to have a really really strong stomach when I entered the autopsy suite there was an organ donation going on. Okay. That cracking. That's a woman breaking ribs to remove a breastplate. I talked with one of the assistance as this was happening. We just had a taco party this week. Takes a certain kind of person do either of these jobs and Christina's one of those people. She shows me to a table on the other side of the room with a few bones on it. So can you tell me what bones were looking at here? So we have a scapula. What's a scapula? This is what do you call it your shoulder blade shoulderblade using these recently identified remains, Christina shows me how frenzy can't apology comes into play in cases, where the person is skeleton is d- after the body is decomposed and only the skeleton is left. This is definitely not a young individual, and you can see here. This is a little bit of degenerate joint disease. And this is how Christina was basically able to determine who Antonio was by looking at his bones. Once I estimated the biological profile. We kind of got a sunset, maybe this individual was most likely similar to individuals of what we call Hispanic background. Okay. So part of how Christina ideas bodies is. By figuring out what ethnicity they belong to. And she can actually do this by looking at bones people with similar ancestry tend to have similar characteristics. It's the kind of thing the average person would never notice, but friends again their politics is trained to see Hispanic as a category. Of course, includes people from many different backgrounds and places, but there are enough similarities in heritage the Christina can ID bones as belonging to a Hispanic or Latino person with a pretty good degree of certainty, and if she can look at a skeleton and say, well, this person was white or black or Asian or Hispanic. It helps narrow down who it could be. So in on Tonio case, we didn't have somebody that had the experience with Hispanic individual. So I was able to recognize several features, and I was able to kind of lead in that direction. As it turns out, the remains of people. With Latin American origins are more difficult to idea in the US because of the reference sample collection so reference samples there's just pretty much a collection of skull remain, strike forensic. Anthropologist, basically compare remains like the Lake Michigan ones against these samples to figure out who they might have belonged to. But Christina says the collections we have a really outdated. They come from body donations that are mostly from the nineteenth and mid twentieth century. And that means they're not Representative of the population today, they're mostly white Anglo some black, but not very Latino. So we don't have right now. A good set of reference samples or skeletal collections that are Representative of these individuals and Christina's trying to fix this problem. She has a grant to travel to Mexico and Puerto Rico to collect new bone samples. Bring them back to the US. So that we can have enough information for individuals here in the medical examiner's office in other forensic anthropologists across the country that can utilize all of this information all of this data when Christina was hired in twenty fifteen at the Waukesha, medical examiner's office. One of the first thing she did was take a look at all the cold cases on file in the first one. She picked was Antonio. I'm not gonna lie on the Tonio case when I found that match. I was so excited. I remember that day I was looking through Namus. And I I'm calling Dr being like, hey, I think a match this him maybe we can idea from there it took off. And it can sure everything that we have we've pack up the bones. Leave the autopsy suite. And walk up stairs to Christina's office to see on Tonio case file. So. Sam how did they see? Yeah. So it was amazing that they found. We're looking at photos from the day. The remains were found which in the rocks on the shore at Lake Michigan. The bones were compact barely visible. Mayan else's Christina says the body was most similar to a Hispanic individual. When she figured this out. She went to name is and saw that a Hispanic man named Tonio Guerrero was missing and Racine. Where the remains were found. His family was contacted for TNA sample for comparison. And it was a match the Racine county remains belong to on Tonio Guerrero. Now, if you remember Antonio was previously eliminated as a match based on dental records. But as it turned out Antonio did have his wisdom teeth removed. His dental records were just out of date. Almost five years later. The Guerreros finally got some answers Morita says there's finally closure in knowing what her goal is. I'm mowing grateful for the person they discovered it was my uncle because she brought us peace to my family knowing that we don't have to look for him anymore. But they still don't know for sure how he died the medical examiner Christina could not find any signs of trauma to the body. So Antonio's death was ruled undetermined, but the gross think they know what happened. They believed that the two men who picked him up to go to rehab had something to do with it that Antonio might have gotten mixed up in something a legal, nobody could change your mind on the we know for fact, it was because of that I asked the Racine police if they spoke to the two men Antonio was last seen with they told me they're not allowed to comment because it's still an open investigation. Thanks to fringe science. His family can finally stop looking. Although they don't know what exactly happens, they do at least know for sure that Antonio is no longer alive. Antonio's body was I didn't twenty sixteen Marito wanted to thank the person responsible. But she never had the chance. So when I met with Christina her office in Wisconsin, we gave Morita a call. Hello. Hi. How are you? I'm good. How are you doing since you were like the last session? They're finishing my own coke. I don't know why I just have the need to. Honestly, we couldn't. Thank you, very amazing on the by. You know, the resort in. This feel is to help you guys and help families like you. So well, thank you so much for. Thank you. That makes me happy and satisfied time. In Christina helps the national data Bank of bone samples to grow perhaps in the future. Families won't have to wait quite so long for answers. Our things to letting USA producer Maggie freeling for that story. And if you have any information regarding the death of Antonio radio, you can contact deputy chief Scholtz of the Racine. Police department at two six two six three five seven seven five nine. This episode was reported and produced by Maggie freezing. And edited by any obvious that the USA is produced by Neo Musseuw's until yesterday, he'll Genesee Moga NCA or give it'll we're edited by Marlin Bishop and Soviet psycho. Our engineers are Stephanie LeBow into the Caruso, our production manager is nothing. Feud host our interns are Carolina and Lucas third. Our theme music was composed by saying it will be nice. If you like the music you heard on this episode stop by letting USA dot org and check out our weekly Spotify playlist, I'm your host and executive producer mugging. Join us again on our next episode. In the meantime, Luke for us on all of your social media. And also you there at the Sema Joe. Funding for Latino USA is coverage of a culture of health is made possible in part by grant from the Robert Wood Johnson foundation. And let's see no USA is made possible in part by the John D and Catherine T MacArthur foundation and the Ford Foundation working with visionaries on the frontlines of social change worldwide. I'm lucky USA. You're not letting I'm so not. From NPR and through media. I'm letting wipe the. Mighty anal Horsa next time on that USA a legendary strike in a New Mexico mining town, and the blacklisted film. It inspired your find out for five that van Poterie come powerful and how they did salt of the earth. That's next time on that the USA.

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Hour 1: Pats v. Cowboys, Knicks are Depressing

The Stephen A. Smith Show

39:27 min | 9 months ago

Hour 1: Pats v. Cowboys, Knicks are Depressing

"The Stephen Smith Show podcast is presented by capital. One where you can open a savings account at about five minutes and earn five times the national average. This is banking reimagined. Hey what's in your Wallet Capital One. NA member FDIC this is this even a Smith Show podcast. What's up everybody? Welcome to the latest Stephen Smith show coming at you as I love to do every week day. Hey over the national airwave. ESPN RADIO AND ESPN news. Two hundred and fifty plus markets across the United States of America. Check Your Am FM listening. Nearest you plus. ESPN radio on Sirius. Xm Channel Eighty plus ESPN radio. simulcast over the live national television airways of ESPN news now to call it was always triple eight say espn. That's eight. Eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six and Stephen Smith show is being brought to you by my computer career dot. Edu Training for a better life. Time for straight talk brought to you by straight. Talk wireless if you you are anticipating since I am all over this nation but I am a native New York if you are anticipating that. I'm going to start this show off today raving about the New York jets. You've got another thing coming. Let me get that pipe dream out of your mind right now. The New York jets have won three straight. I don't give a damn I will say this. They have been impressive. There have been a precedent. Precedence wins over. The New York giants over the Washington redskins means nothing to me. shellacking the Oakland Raiders yesterday. The way that they did courtesy of a thirty one point beatdown that they handed the Oakland Raiders at Metlife Stadium. That was impressive. Shockingly so I might add and if if that's if that's something to give me pause to pause I'm down for that but I just want to make sure everybody understands that you know what why. Why does Adam Gates go out and win games? Count that victory over the Dallas cowboys. Earlier was a big big deal outside of that jet. Start off one seven seven. These games are relatively meaningless. Everybody and their mother knows that you're already out of it. mathematically not yet but the bottom line is nobody is expecting much from the New York jets right now. Now I will give Adam gays credit. They have looked better. I will give him credit. They'll play corner calling has been significant. They amped up the intensity defensively. They've been impressive. SUV Jamal Adams since getting into it with the New York jets prior to the NFL trading deadline. This man is performed lights out. I get all of that and as a result Zona that I will jump off the bear wagon of those flying flags over metlife stadium and over the jets practice facilities. Aw talking about Adam Gates should be going no. I think that we can pump the brakes on that. I think to give respecting credit. Where credit is due the way that they're playing player right now? If this were to continue that obviously Adam gays you know not that it was an issue of him losing his job since Christopher Johnson came out and said Adam case he's had nothing to worry about. He would be in next year but now he's earning he's gotten a vote of confidence from ownership and as a result the team has gone out and they perform relatively well formed seven on the season winners of three straight. And we gotta give the jets credit where credit is due although we all know that ain't GonNa make the playoffs. We all know they'll be watching the postseason with us and we all know that they'll come up short yet again because that's just the nature of the New York jets having said all of that we we all know what the lead story is. We all know that it's not the jets and it's not the giants. In fact that Pat Shurmur will be without a head. Coaching job wants to seize around. What's the seasons because he deserves to be going? We are now unimpressive. He is an oppressive. He was out of fact that his tenant twenty three record coming in to the New York giants job was proof in and of itself that he never deserved the head coaching job. To begin with we all all know that so a New York it looks like Adam Gates is going to survive. Pat Shurmur will not and that is that in. La At the League of being some trouble. My response is he did have a twelve season last year. So the level of ineptitude is only about this season when we all know that he has a quarterback. That's over over the hill in Philip rivers. So do I say give Adam Little Anthony Linda chance to come back next season and not let the Dhabi. I be cast per se in terms of his ten years head coach of the Los Angeles chargers. I say yes. Keep him onboard. Keep them on board. We've got a Monday Monday night game. We'll get into a little bit later with the Ravens in the Los Angeles Rams will get Internet but the lead story is obviously the Dallas Cowboys. Let me say this Dallas cowboys lost thirteen to nine last night yesterday. Rather The Dallas cowboys lost that game inclement weather gusting gusting winds. Lots of rain clearly cold weather and all and that and that proverbial fog. That's always hovering over Gillette stadium. It seems to start on a year. I thought the trip penalties against myth against Frederick. I thought that was utterly ridiculous. Ridiculous no way. They'll should've been called Dallas that converted that third thirty three thirty four situation should have been A. I doubt no way Dan hell should not have counted against the Dallas cowboys. That's a bogus call. These officials would technology and are replaced and everything else. It's amazing amazing to me. How many mistakes they make all of that stroke? But if you think for one second that Jerry. Jones didn't have a point what he was saying about as coaches. And if we have that sound please let me know if you think for one second that Jerry Jones did not have a point with saying what he said about his coaching staff led by Jason Garrett. I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what to tell you. Jerry Jones in the aftermath of the Dallas cowboys latest loss dropping them to six and five hundred season and if it was for the Philadelphia Eagles right now saddled with a five six record. Dallas wouldn't even be in first place Jerry. Jones was utterly disgusted discussed. He was not happy. Do we have that sound can. Do we have this out. Scott let's hear from Jerry Jones speaking in the aftermath the New England patriots knocking off the Dallas Cowboys at Gillette Stadium in Foxborough. Yes they listened to the owner of the Dallas Cowboys on this special teams is one hundred percent. Coaching Gets One hundred percent coaching. How strategy it's having players ready They use the makeup of the roster. We exclude certain players from it. Because we there to important and the defense offense phase of it but other than that special teams chiefs and that's why I'm today give Bella Chat give them credit. They did a great job on special teams and that was really probably the determining differ efforts to really step up here. And do this but I will say as coordinator her defense offense and special teams. We need as a whole team. Uh coordinative complete If you will a balanced balancing word for it but I WANNA see a winning game out of all of those guys acting a little bit in coordination year. So that's not exactly the sound that I was looking for. Because he was talking about the coaches as well as special teams coordinator for the Dallas. Cowboys is Keith. Oh Quinn good luck with hoping that. This brother has a job become thanksgiving. 'cause by the sound of Jerry Jones. What's it didn't look good at all? Let me say this. Let me get this out the way right now Jason Garrett should be fired today and I challenge anybody disagree with me on this in the interest of full disclosure. Let me break down what my feelings are about Jase as again. I believe Jason. Kerr should have been fired as early as two thousand and thirty Jason Garrett is in his tenth season as it as the head coach for the Dallas Cowboys. He has to play off victories. Three postseason appearances. This is his tenth season first year with he took over halfway through. After we've Phillips was uncertain motivity let go so basically this is eight eight full seasons for Jason Garrett this knife demands got three postseason appearances. Two playoff victories in that a plan for America's team the most popular. NFL team would an owner. That's giving you every asset you can imagine agent with first class facilities a brand in and of itself you win with the Dallas Cowboys. You'll get paid and Jason Garrett Garrett religiously come up short now why do I mention to twenty thirteen because back then ladies and gentlemen Jason Garrett went eight for the third consecutive -secutive year for the third consecutive year at that time he lost the final game of the regular season with the division title title on the line each time your one year two year. Three of the Eight and eight finishes each game week. Seventeen sixteenth game of the season division Crowley's online and did he lose it to the same says No. He lost all three teams within the division when the Eagles now the loss of the giants the loss of the Redskins each year he lost the final game of the regular season and missed the playoffs. He should have been fired then. I am not qualified to debate or discuss the football acumen of Jason Garrett nor would I I see the the level of affection people have for him and I would never ever assumed the man doesn't know football. That's not where I'm going with this where I'm going with it is that it's it's a results oriented business. He has come up flagrantly short year after year after year and everybody and their mother those only receive the head. Coach of the Dallas Cowboys is because Jerry Jones affection for him so we fast spoiled with that knowledge to last night or yesterday afternoon at Foxboro and for I think I'm not sure but I think like the eighth todd. In their eleven games this season they operated from a deficit. They were down ten nothing four times this year. They've gone against the play of caliber team. Green Bay Minnesota New Orleans. Oh by the way new all these squad without teddy bridgewater out drew brees and then yesterday New England. What's Dallas has record in those games? Oh and four when the jets beat them. The jets were winless beetle. It's raining less yesterday. It's freezing it's freezing. It's raining the rain. It's a rental rates. Come down. It's gusty winds that proverbial fogged at. Hove is open to let stadium. Stadium like a damn virus this Kinda year this time of year. Nothing was different yesterday. I mean everything about the game bag for you to run the damn football. Why is that so important? Who did Jerry Jones paying off season all right before the season begin? Who did he pay? Ninety million dollars to fifty million and guarantees. Who is that? That was the think. He'll Elliott. Why you Jerry? Joe Santo ticked off by the way Ezekiel Elliott did average four yards a carry yesterday. You gave him the ball twenty one thirty under conditions like that. What about the way that Prescott put on gloves? So we're in the second quarter. Whatever the game you didn't the weather out there? When you want it up you didn't know beforehand? You might need a gloves. Had No clue. Where's your where's your office Gordon? Keller more SAM tasting Gary. You offense coordinator you didn't sale you didn't so you don't get Killa the ball oh by the way we know Ezekiel Elliott got US money. We know black. I Prescott wants to get his money. Who else looking to get paid Amari Cooper I know he asked to give more on them arguably the best cornerback football? You Target Amari Cooper Hooper. One time the first once once. That's what they did that. Fourth and eleven when Amari Cooper I taught caught the pass no it was the right call by officials. It touched the ground. It was not a catch. It was the right call but the point of the matter. It's you targeted him twice or three times for the entire game your number one receiver. You've come up with no place. Nothing innovative wise to get the damn foot. Poland has nothing never at all. And then we get two specialties. which the sound that we played with Jerry Jones Talk Okay alluded to a blocked punt by slater to moths to to to kick off in the first half? The blocked punt led to the first touchdown to the kill Harry by Tom. Brady only only New England touchdown on a day to kick offs in the first half another one in the second half. It's coaching tell me looking at the Dallas cowboys. You don't see a team to be making more noise than a six if Iraq they got an MVP candidate at least coming into the game a Dak Prescott. You gotta run. It started out the season with that's considered arguably the best. You gotTa Number One wide receiver. You got one of the best offensive line of Football gallopers no scope Jason Win in the ultimate security blanket is back for you and your defense led by demarcus Lawrence buffered bad linebacker crew included shore. Neil Jalen Smith and late advanced. who wasn't available yesterday? I mean you look at Does Dallas T. collectively speaking. What is it that tells you they should be sixty-five at this point? Nothing we walked into this game believing that the New England patriots was going to win for one reason. And one reason only bill belichick over Jason Garrett period. Have you seen who Tom Brady's throwing foot has. Anybody noticed the Keel Harry. Four two four passes this season this this this kid Likassi the tight end. Whatever the hell is Damon you know? He's caught six passes this entire series running back like birkhead and James White Ketchup passes look like leading receivers Julian. Edelman can't no catch break because Dan there every pass that has come his way. There's no Josh quoted there's no Antonio Brown there's no rob Gronkowski and somehow L. Some way the Patriots to survive it lightly because of the elite defense. We get that poor Tom. Tom Brady everybody acting like he's done. Nobody seeing who he's doing the damn football too. We get paid to do this for living. We don't know who the hell he's football too. That's how how long we all are. Who the hell these people? But somehow some way. Tom Brady's manages to make sure that the Patriots don't don't beat themselves and they lied on the defense heavily. Obviously I don't know what the Hell Y'all watch if y'all take Jason Garrett to to keep his job Jason Gas should be let go right now clearly. He's not coming back. Why not cut two losses? Give the job to Rashad as a defensive coordinator move them up to the interim tag pursue lick rally or Sean Payton in the off season if a shark. I can't get it done but you don't want to disrupt everything that's going on right. Now leave everybody else attack get rid of Garrett and your physical and your special teams rather rather guy if you have to. I'm not advocating it because you know Listen to these kinds of things didn't happen to the Dallas Cowboys. Prior to yesterday yesterday was one bad game. I don't think the special teams guys lose his job on one bad game even though they just seemed ill prepared. But Jason Kerr we talk about one game. Hell we ain't talk about one season. We're talking about an alarming level of ineptitude and inefficiency when it comes to galvanize the Dallas cowboys to maximize the potential that is available to them. Has Anybody noticed the job that Mike Tomlin is doing. The Pittsburgh no been Rosberg no Antonio Brown no Levy on Bell Hell no even Mason Rudolph and that was before he got benched in the second half. Yesterday there were games that he missed early in the season. Somehow someway to steelers. It's still sixty five there. Pick the one dude making fitzpatrick from Miami and look at what is done for that defense. Mike Tomlin is GONNA get a lot of coaches fired this year with the job that he's would every owning the national football league. That has a struggling team. Should be able to say. Why the Hell can't you do that at least keeps US respectable? You talk about a brother that will have a job within the hour if the steelers let go it would be Mike Tomlin Jerry. Jones should be able to would probably hire him on the spot and if he didn't hide him you'd be a fool and he'd probably be complete with Daniel Snyder in Washington or somebody else but Mike Tomlin the special. Hey mccaw Santa Ana my top out to candidates for coach of the year honors without question as being a couch Shanahan. My God would have beat down. San Francisco put on Green Bay last night. That was just embarrassing. Green Bay packers. Just got punked by the way just. So y'all know. I called the Wisconsin Police Department I've asked put out an AP for Missing Persons Report. Jimmy Graham to be exact. Where the hell is this? This guy fall into I mean my God I mean what what the Hell is going on with him. One reception for seven yards would depress it. That was applied CARAJAS. The way they will all over him and you couldn't give him any help receivers on the outside couldn't get open and I can't even blame them because guess what they didn't WanNa one coverage. The reality of the situation is San Francisco Brags. I mean. They've got a front four led by Nick Bosa decade and buttoning. Those berkner rather that can get to the quarterback without blitz. They could pick to win the blitz. But they can get at you without the blitz. There's there's no help. Aaron Rodgers had no help last night. Oh yeah last night. You don't have a run a game. devante adults can do would only so much and you're tied in supposed to be doing stuff too if you think I'm lying look at Kiddo. Look at George The San Francisco forty nine. He might be the best football. I I love my brother travers. Kelsey now Casey. I'm not going to summarily. Dismiss everyone the compensation but this kid. George Kettle is special six catches for one hundred twenty nine a yards with a chipped bone in his ankle. Missing a couple of games coming out and play in the way that he played and I know there's a lot of people that want want me to give love to Jimmy Garoppolo Aka porn star Jimmy. But let me tell you. Step the right now. If I have received that open I can throw the ball of them to I mean what the hell are we talking about here you about the San Francisco Forty niners you get a no but you get to their defense you get to about three or four dudes on their defense and then you get to their offense with their running game and kill before you even think about Garoppolo Rappalo you think about Shanahan I two. He's living the good life right now. So this is what we call is like we see it. San Francisco's the best team in football right now. I know which terminated WanNa Sanders. y'All ignorance stay ignorant. That's what he wants to say. No we don't WanNa do that. We slept on the San Francisco. Forty niners how often they were a couple of years ago. That won seven start. They had before Greg Ginn Jimmy Garoppolo last year him going down in engine. The San Francisco Forty niners led by John Lynch and Kosh Shanahan have built one hell of a team as far as I'm concerned we're GONNA learn a lot about them next week when they play against the Baltimore Ravens and Lamar Jackson. But I'm here to tell you something right now. The San Francisco Forty niners have made a legitimate case to be the best team in all of football right now and I don't think any of us are capable of denying it at eight say. ESPN it's inundate. Seven to nine. Three seven seven six continue to get into a slew games that took place yesterday. Stay New Orleans. What I saw Pittsburgh what I saw? Cleveland what I saw Baltimore tonight against the rams the list goes on Seattle and Philadelphia. offier is something I obviously can't ignore because there's a lot of stuff to get into and I can't wait to do it. You're listening to Steven. ESPN RADIO ESPN news. That was straight talk. 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Algae for biofuels that could one day powered trucks ships and planes would would have to greenhouse gas emissions of today's fuels learn more at energy factor Dot Com Ladies and gentlemen before I get to the callers before I get back to football. Grant me just sixty seconds to event because you see. I'm in our New York studios in Iran in my buddy frank so franken has sold over those of you who don't know us to write for the New York Daily News during an outstanding job covering the knicks for about sixteen seventeen years. He's now at the athletic he's obviously contributed tributed. ESPN on shows like around on PTI as subs etc.. Love Frank Franken. I go back a long ways but every time I see Frank Frank Frank is one of the people in this world that I like to see the least even all of them because every time I see yeah I can't help but think about the knicks the Knicks it. It does things to me. The Brooklyn Nets beat the New York Knicks yesterday S.. Today score doesn't matter. It was the fourth victory of the season that the Brooklyn Nets have one without Kyrie irving the New York Knicks at four hundred on the entices. I'm going to repeat that. The Brooklyn Nets have as many victories without Kyrie Irving event that the New York Knicks have very the New York Knicks. Want to tell you that we didn't commit long term and we'll have room and we'll be in position to go after Marquee folks and I agree with that. My question is tell me what marquee free agent would give the New York. Knicks sniff sniff right now. Who Do it and last but not least this? This is where I can't absolve anybody. I watched a couple of interesting. Marcus Morris can play. Julius randle Reynaud Scrub I think he needs to be a bit ambidextrous but he's no scroll he could play. I believe that the New York Knicks having abundance of people that can play and can actually contribute a bit too winning teams. But when you put them together it doesn't match gentlemen. Marcus Morris has been a ofo ofo in his entire career. We're watching him bringing the ball up the court and calling plays. Sometimes I watch Julius randle pick bring the ball up the court and call place and he's one handed. How does that make sense? Let's doesn't get I can understand Steve Mills and Scott Perry and near complaints towards David Deal. I can understand others who have complaints about Steve Mills and Scott Perry Molly issue with them and was saying in a press conference in the immediate aftermath of a loss to the Cleveland Cavaliers at Madison Square Garden as opposed to talking to James Privately. That was my only issue. But it's a mess and you're losing were guys that ain't gonNA probably be next year. What are the Knicks building? What are they building? I see that's what they built. We know that Kevin durant coming back the light at the end of the tunnel. We know that car we getting uninjured is a light at the end of the tunnel. And we're watching them. Win Games without Kyriakos Kevin Durant rant. Which means they'll only be better when those two get there? What are the Knicks have? I'm going to pressed. I'm growing very very very depressed. I'm just GONNA leave it at that because I want to be nice actually got love. Steve Mills and Scott Perry. I really do. Nobody's routing for them harder than me but I am so sick and tired of seeing the Knicks. Be The knicks. It's depressing I mean. Can you at least wait until after the holidays. Steak for wants does holidays always have to be compromised. Do we always have to rely on at macy's Thanksgiving Day parade or a bright lights at Rockefeller Center around Christmas time to have a reason to be festive dam downstream. mm-hmm Michael Stephen. Mike are you there. Hey Steven how you doing buddy. I had add value to hop doing go ahead and look. I'm a big fan myself. First of all. Thank you for taking my call me. He was standing right by the way so huge fan of the a show and everything. So thank you for that. Thank you First of all. I'm a huge fan so I'm not gonNA to their horn. Can we get some love for Luca. A darn good for. Mvp Right now let me stop you right now. Look at dodger because in that conversation this brothers spectacular and what he did to James Harden in Houston the other day a triple double at thirty five point triple double in twenty five minutes this dues got the game and and he's got the swag you know I was talking to agents or Hausky ultimate. NBA Inside on along with a couple of other people and we were just raving about don-shik because he's spectacular but something needs to be said. Phoenix Suns. Picking the Andre. I tried to tell people when they were sitting I was like he can't pass the Andre teach seven feet. You understand what I'm saying. This kid and he started audited Arizona. Stephen doesn't know he's talking about absolutely right. I don't because I never saw Luca Danni until he got to the NBA. You see what I'm saying so I'd never seen him. I'd never seen him at all So I didn't know and I told the audience that so I don't know what to think about it 'cause I never saw but the coach in Phoenix did Vlada. Vox from Europe. He has seen and heard about Luca Danni he had to number two overall pick way. Marvin Bagley odd. The number three pick Atlanta allowed Dallas to trade up trae young can bowl trae young is arguably the second coming of Steph Curry. The way he can handle this shoot no doubt but I think it's safe to say at this juncture. He's Luca Dante does brothers on another level right now so my point in saying that is absolutely right and listen man. I know you're a huge knicks fan. I feel deal for you like he'd the Knicks. I remember those days. Keep your head up. Might know I'll I'll share this view and since you listened to me and you follow my show and I appreciate appreciate love by the way you know. I'm telling the truth when I say this because I don't want I. Who is the person employer nixed to drive Donovan the Mitch you a few years ago? Who did over the airwaves giving crucify I said done of it? Meant you out of Louisville Tank Ham Damn number nine overall member that I remember that poke folks was like what are you talking about. Man Ain't nobody got project. I said the hell I they did it with Julia. I like Balik. Mom I did not like Frank Ntilikina. I'm sorry I think it was the eighth pick. Frankly Keno and Phil Jackson was asleep at the wheel. The getting his head treated a thought that I don't know but I knew that Donovan Mitchell should have been a pick and what happened the office. I don't even know what to say Bro. I don't even know what to say. My thank you for mccaw edit eight say. ESPN inundate seven to nine. Three seven seven six back with more of your phone calls to close out the hour the minute you listen live Stephen. ESPN radio the business record. 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Joe Dies Macarthur professional wrong. Joe Tasman is is right. I'll leave it at that. To the phones we go Let's go to Macula was even go ahead. Hey Steven how you on all right go ahead long long time. Rama Cowboy's Fan and I've been listening to you for years and years and years I've never gotten through So here's I'm going to go real quick and then I'll let you say oh you gotta say first off you only got a minute and a half. So I said John Kerry bought the cowboys for about one hundred and eighty five million there now worth about five point three billion dollars. They're the most popular franchise in the country the world because not because they're winning because they're losing one head coach and I'll just cut everything to chase. Everybody talks about Garrett. I've coached football at the highest level semi pro Small Twelve Thousand Team Small League Empire until you got ninety seconds. I don't need your by your listen. Listen part cells coach there. What did he do? He didn't do nothing. Parcells Hall of Fame Pool Can Jerry Jones brings to the Dallas cowboys. The you've talked about Tomlin Bella. Check Harbaugh Peyton Carol. Those guys right there. Those guys Stephen a they have an older as the hell out of the business and let the coach coach. It's a what are you saying. So what are you saying that they should keep Jason Garrett. Nobody Kerry Gilpin coach your team on man. I'll I will hang up on you right now. And so my question Jason Garrett should they keep him yes to no absolutely until you have somebody until you have somebody okay. You're going to okay all right all right goodbye goodbye. That's a very ignorant. Take on your part. You'd want to call a P and give you a semi pro background. I ain't trying to hear that and I appreciate you. Listen to the show by the way but bottom line is this anybody can lose. Why does Jason Guarantee Your head coach? 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GSMC Weird News Podcast Episode 175: Jimi, Beer, and Records

GSMC Weird News Podcast

35:33 min | 11 months ago

GSMC Weird News Podcast Episode 175: Jimi, Beer, and Records

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Sarah and I'm just GONNA jump right in here with our first story because it is baffling fascinating weird of as the theme of this podcast so let me just tell you that there is a conspiracy theory that Morgan Freeman is actually Jimi Hendrix six there is a side by side picture of Jimi Hendrix along with a current picture of Morgan Freeman but according to online conspiracy interests Morgan freemen's sudden rise to fame in the nineteen seventies occurred after Hendrix supposedly died on September Eighteenth Nineteen in seventy okay well. The theory does have some holes as one online user points out. Freeman started his acting career as an extra approximately five years before Jimi Hendrix made his first public appearance also Freeman was in the US filming film was in the US filming filming caught in the middle while Hendrix was busy touring Europe shortly before his death that would make Hendrix's transformation into Morgan Freeman nothing short of miraculous Tillis but let's see what how exactly this theory plays out so James Marshall Aka Jimi Hendrix who was born Johnny Ellen Hendrix well okay was born on Nineteen November twenty seventh nineteen forty two. He died September eighteenth eighteen thousand nine hundred seventy. He was an American guitarist singer and songwriter. His mainstream career actually only spanned for years which is crazy when you think about health famous he is but he's widely regarded as one of the most influential electric guitarist in the history of popular music and is one of the most celebrated celebrated musicians of the twentieth century the Rock and Roll Hall of fame describes him as arguably the greatest instrumental instrumentalist in the history of rock rock music he was born in Seattle Washington and began playing guitar at the age of fifteen in nineteen sixty one enlisted in the US army he was granted an honorable rebel discharge the following year soon afterward he moved to Clarksville Tennessee and began playing gigs on the Chitlins circuit earning a place in the Eisley brothers backing band I ant and later with little Richard with whom he continued to work through mid nineteen sixty five he then played with Curtis Knight and the squires before moving to England in late nineteen sixty six after being discovered by Linda Keith who in turn interested bassist Chas Chandler of the animals in becoming his first stage manager is first manager within months. Hendrix had earned three UK top ten hits with the Jimi Hendrix experience those were hey Joe Purple Haze and the wind cries Mary he achieved fame in the US after his performance at the Monterey pop festival in nineteen sixty seven and in nineteen sixty eight his third and final studio album electric lady land it. It reached number one in the US the double L. P. was Hendrix's most commonly successful release his first and only number one album which again crazy he only had one number Bruin element just well known as he is as talented as he was the world's highest paid performer he headlined the Woodstock Festival in Nineteen sixty nine and that's where we get that incredible version of the Star spangled banner and he had lent the Isle of White Festival in Nineteen seventy before his accidental death from barbituate related a spectacular on September Eighteenth Nineteen Seventy when he was twenty seven okay so those are the basic facts as we we know them. Now here comes the conspiracy theory so he the theorist or the theory goes. How do you did he Jimi Hendrix go from being recognized and awarded a medal in the army to just shortly after that being discharged his superiors who claim that he was not fit to serve in the army well they are calling bs the on this and speculate that he was recruited to be a spy Jimi Hendrix a spy okay now. Let's let's get with the the Morgan Freeman basic facts he was born June first nineteen thirty seven. He's an American actor film director and Narrator and someday I would just like him to narrate my life. Freeman has received Academy award nominations for his performance in street smart driving driving Miss Daisy the shawshank redemption and Invicta invictus and won the best supporting Oscar in two thousand five for million dollar baby his also won Golden Globe Award and a screen actors Guild Award. He has appeared in many other box office hits and he was injured in an automobile. Oh accident near rule veal Mississippi on the night of August third twenty two thousand eight the vehicle in which he was travelling in nineteen ninety seven Nissan Maxima left the highway and flipped over several times times he and a female passenger Damaris Mayor Meyer were rescued from the vehicle using the jaws of life. He was then taken by a medical helicopter to the Regional Medical Center. YOU'RE IN MEMPHIS. police ruled out alcoholic factor in the crash. He was coherent following the crash he joked with a photographer about taking his picture at the scene his left shoulder arm and elbow were broken and he had surgery on August fifth doctors operated to repair nerve damage on his shoulder and arm on CNN's Piers Morgan tonight. He stated that he is left handed but cannot move the fingers of his left hand. He wears a compression glove pretext protect against blood pooling due to non movement his publicist announced he was expected to make a full recovery and Meyer his passenger sue him for negligence claiming that he was drinking the night of the accident but the suit was subsequently settled okay so now what does that now here comes the conspiracy theory once again and the question is so what does Morgan do today well. He owns a bar in Memphis. That plays live music co figure. That's it. That's that's really all they have. That's the entire theory I love that. They don't give you any other corroborating facts. NOPE NO and there isn't there is a note at the bottom of this that says update. We updated the headline in opening the article to make it clear well. The theory that Jimmy Hendricks and Morgan Freeman are the same person is entertaining. It is extremely unlikely to be true. Nick update that that they had originally just presented this article as well researched searched founded theory. I know this is hilarious. People have too much time on their hands. Also if you're going to have a conspiracy theory you really have to put more effort into it. This is is like barebones okay so you've got one person who died one person who didn't die. They're five years apart one. I don't even know I don't even know. I just think that are conspiracy. Conspiracy theorists need to do better. You can do better than this. If you're going to come up with a conspiracy theory that as entertaining entertaining as Morgan Freeman actually being Jimi Hendrix then you have got to put more effort into it so their whole theory is Jimi. Hendrix was possibly assembly or their whole yeah. I think he was recruited to be a spy and Morgan. Freeman owns a bar disappointing very very disappointing but them my leaner tuning. I think that somebody should do a better job on this. This should be like a some kind of a satire or or spoof. It could be a short story. It could be a novel frankly. It could be a miniseries movie lifetime movie. Maybe it should be a lifetime timely. I don't know I'm just grasping at straws here but I think that my ideas you flush them. Out could be better than this very sad little conspiracy theory theory again people do better do better and this has been going around for a while so there has been time time for people to do a better conspiracy theory. I'm sorry this has been happening this. This was suggested over a year ago and you haven't taken the time to flush it out. Come up with better ideas. I'm not really upset. I really don't think that you know there. There should be more work done in this. I'm just disappointed that you're going to make this crazy crazy claim and then not even try to fully convince me of it. I'M GONNA take my disappointment into our first break. When we come back we talking about a guy asking for era ending up with something a little bit unexpected so stay tuned you're listening to the GMC Weird News podcast and I will be right back. It's cutting getting into your exercise time it stabbing you in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind. It's pain and it's getting in between you and the life you want to live CD medic target your pain at its source. It's fast acting relief with active. OTC ingredients plus the added benefits of THC FREE HEMP oil get back to your life with CBD medic available online and at CBS these statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose treat cure or prevent any disease. It's cutting into your exercise time it stabbing you in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind. It's pain and it's getting in between in life. You want to live CD medic. Targets your pain at its source. It's fast acting relief with active. OTC ingredients plus the added benefits of THC FREE HEMP oil get back to your life with CD medic available online at CVS. These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose treat cure or prevent any disease sees check out the show built around the women of MMA from the UFC to the extreme cage fighting eighty read got the fights cover the golden state media concepts women animate podcast the latest news of upcoming flights discussions of previous matches join us as we talked to in about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and future when when it's the women's fight game you were to listen to the golden state media concepts women's MMA podcast welcome back to the GS MC Weird News podcast we are moving away from Kiss Conspiracy Z. Theories well-researched or not and this one tells us about a football fan whose name is carson king who was being silly trying trying to make people laugh and ended up on TV holding a sign asking people to send him money for beer. He didn't actually expect to receive anything but in in just over a week he actually raised more than one million dollars and is now donating those funds to a children's hospital. He's quoted as saying I was hoping to make a couple wolf people laugh. I never expected to be on TV and definitely did not expect anyone to send money referencing beer brand. Mr King sign read Bush Bush light supply needs replenished and gave his username for Mobile Payment Service for the mobile payment service then mo well when cameras cut site site of the sign on September fourteenth and broadcast it across America from the Iowa Hawkeyes and the Iowa state cyclone game cyclones game viewers at home began began to send him money who does that. Are you really that's supportive of his beer-drinking zero. Okay you really like Bush light when the cash flowing into his account hit six hundred dollars Mr King conferred with his family and tweeted after the game that he decided to donate all the proceeds minus the cost of one case of beer at least it's only one case to University of Iowa steadfastly children's hospital he told Sky News. I was hoping best case scenario. Dario someone in the crowd sees the sign gets a laugh and sends twenty dollars for a case of Bud light of excuse me Bush late but then to go from that to over a million in dollars in contributions one point zero six five million in total contributions including matches from Bush and then Mo is amazing so you just never know what's GonNa turn out to be. You know you just never know it just he's just shows that once people hear about a good because they are willing to help although almost seven hundred dollars just for beer. That's I don't know if that's incredible or inane but then once it became for charity than it was over over it went from almost seven hundred dollars to over a million king who is going to accept donations until the end of the month told Sky News he chose the family hospital because because they do amazing work for everyone in the state and country for that matter saving lives and giving hope to thousands of families he said just wanted to help in any way I could as mentioned above and Bush light pledged to match the contributions which meant his total funds burst through the one million dollar mark on this this past Sunday on Monday the Iowa State University Fan tweeted. I still can't believe we hit a million dollars yesterday. We're sitting at over one million six six hundred sixty five thousand in total contributions to at you I children's after at Busch Beer at van Mo- Matt our contribution Hashtag for the kids and we're you're not done yet. Children's Hospital which overlooks the football stadium replied to him on twitter saying it feels surreal to us to we can hardly believe what's been accomplished in just over a week. It followed an earlier message from the hospital thanking people for their donations in recognition of King's actions the Beer Company have offered the twenty four year old old year supply of beer delivered bespoke cans designed to include a picture of his face with his name and the words Iowa legend emblazoned across cost them the man the myth the Hashtag Iowa legend they they they wrote on twitter with picture reflecting reflecting on these events king said to go from joke to raising this much money for this much for a great cause is great. It restores your faith in humanity it it does it restores my faith in humanity. It went from very silly to me being amazed that people would send hundreds of dollars for here. I shouldn't be amazed. People are very strange but then to go to over a million dollars in donations to a children's hospital. I think this is one weird news story. Sorry that you know I can warm my my cold dead heart. neither cold nor dead. Maybe just a little below slits. Let's move move on to other stories not involving beer. Maybe they will who knows. Let's see we're going to do some more animal stories because you know. I love the the animal stories and this one is another raccoon. It's another realm. It's another Florida story but this is not you know Florida Man Florida woman story. This is Florida Raccoon Story and this Florida Raccoon decided somehow for some reason that he would take a little ride on the top of a bread truck he went for a sixteen mile ride on top of a Florida bred delivery truck that reach speeds over fifty miles per hour during the trip. What does look I hold onto. The driver of the wonder bread truck said that other drivers caught his attention to the raccoon on top of his truck after he had already driven about ten miles and and so then he called nine one one from the parking lot of a fast food restaurant. Please said the driver attempted to get this directly to safety by pulling the truck two convenient tree branch. The animal refused to climb down. He was having fun. He was like come on. I'm going for a ride. It ought to get on this boring old tree branch the drivers that he eventually had to drive the the final six miles of his journey with the raccoons still riding on the roof odd Ventura Raccoon he said the animal eventually apparently climbed down on its own wants. The truck was parked at the company's headquarters in North Fort Myers or maybe the raccoons needed to get to north Fort Myers. He's like this tree. Branch is great but I am not getting off yet. I have not it reached my destination police. it turns out in Wisconsin. We're more successful last week in coming to the rescue of raccoon in a different sort of predicament of Oh. I don't know if if this raccoon really needed rescuing he seemed to have made up his mind as to what was going to go on in his day but the Madison Wisconsin Police Department said Ed that a police officer in an animal control officer were able to coax a raccoon out of a tree oh to remove a jar that'd become stuck over its head that one did need to be rescued but Florida Raccoon Florida coon is just he's a wonder bread truck surfer. He needed to get to North Fort Myers. He had he had errands to run. He he had a business deal to make. I don't know what was going on but he needed that and he was not getting off on some dumb tree branch six miles away from his ultimate destination so go leflore Iraq coon. You are my new. I don't know that you're my new hero but you're definitely one of the coolest recommends that I think I and I don't know you. I can't even say that one of the coolest raccoons I've ever heard of and again as I always say I think half of these weird news stories should end up as books. This one would make a great children's book. recommend could have a name he could go on adventures. He could hitchhike his way various places. He's not really hitchhiking. He's more stowing away stowing away on various different kinds of trucks and he'd go different places and we could solve crimes or I don't know he's just he's got to go on adventures awesome some sort right. This needs to be written. Maybe in those hours that I keep wasting between midnight and six a phrase. My Dad always says up wasting the hours between between midnight and six. I should be writing Florida raccoon truck stowaway adventures and yeah then I can say that in all started with the wonder bread truck and the Florida raccoon. I'M GONNA go work on that. Let's go ahead and take our second impre of the podcast. When we come back we will be wrapping up this episode with a few more weird news stories so stay tuned. You're listening to the GS MC Weird News podcast and I we'll be right back. It's cutting into your exercise time it stabbing you in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind It's pain and it's getting in between you and a life you want to live. CBD Medic targets your pain at its source. It's fast acting relief with active. OTC ingredients the plus the added benefits of THC FREE HEMP oil get back to your life with CBD medic available online at CVS. These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. This product does not intended to diagnose treat cure or prevent any disease. It's cutting into your exercise time it stabbing you in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind. It's pain and it's getting in between you and the life you want to live CD medic targets. Your pain added source. It's fast acting relief with active. 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Am I just getting that mixed up with all the other states I don't know but our next story comes from Michigan and This is from September twentieth and tells us that a Michigan Police officer responded to a late the night call and ended up getting way more than originally bargained for so the Shelby Township Police Department said officer feted responded responded to an RV storage lot Wednesday night after a security guard called in a report of a python on the loose okay. That's one that's one moment when I might think this isn't what I became a police officer four but maybe that is what you become a police officer for rogue pythons. I don't know honestly mostly if it was a different type of snake would probably be a little afraid but I've dealt with pythons before federal told W XYZ TV. Fedex said she arrived you to find this snakehead slithered into the engine of an old corvette parked in the lot. How did she find it Did she like track it didn't did you have a python snake sniffing dog with her. How do you find a python that slurred into the in a in a storage place. She says one of our detectives brought a box and actually brought one of the dog bowls they were like. I'm not touching it. I'm like it's no big deal. I picked it up off the car and put it in the box. pfennigs said the Python Python is believed to be an escaped pet probably either an escaped pet or they didn't want to feed it anymore and just turn it loose She said they knew they they like the heat. I I knew it stayed up there long. It wouldn't survive long. It was cold last night. Police said the U. Python is now in the custody of mccomb county animal control and will end up at a local rescue ask you if it's owner can't be found well python. We wish you the best of luck because you either escaped and you know went on your own adventure or you were turned loose because your owners bigger here owners couldn't feed you any more or what have you who knows what really happened but hopefully so far this python and has had a bit of a happy ending. I mean you know got to check out. A corvette didn't get to drive it. Leg didn't get to go for a ride like the raccoon but it got to have a little bit of adventure or now. Maybe this Beith on. We'll find a loving forever home. That will take it in and give it lots of mice or something. I'd like to eat. I know that's how it works and I don't have a problem with it except what I think about it happening in captivity of freaks me out a little bit like snakes hunting totally get that snake in a terrarium and then you just throw in a rat. Maybe it's dead. Maybe it's frozen. Maybe it's alive. I don't know it's like yeah speaking of Weird News. Your host is weird high of issues. It's okay. I'm working on it. Our next story also comes to us from in Michigan but it is not an animal related story. No we have moved onto the record breaking record setting portion of our podcast and this says that Guinness World Records as said a Michigan companies bid to set a new world record was successful when it amassed just a ball of lint weighing in at six hundred ninety pounds okay. I have some questions before we even get into this. who was the first person that was like like this giant ball of lint? I wonder if anybody else has a giant ball of lint. I wonder if my giant bowl is bigger than their giant Polo Flint and then who called up Guinness Book of World Records and said Hey. I have this Dr Ball of lint. Do you WANNA come out and verify that it's the biggest ball of lint that anyone has ever had and then who else decides you know. I want to break a record. Let's look in the Guinness Book of World Records Kurds and see what we could do. Lint everyone start cleaning out your dryers. I don't know let's read on to see what this article says but I just had to ask you my questions. These are the things that I that these are the things keep me up at night. dryer vent wizard see dryer wizard of Farmington hills already already see my answer. My questions being answered Dryer Vent Wizard Farmington Hills Michigan is in Michigan said started collecting lint from its locations across the country earlier in the year with the aim with aim toward assembling the world's largest lint ball and then lighting it on fire. We can't just accumulate. We have to light things on fire here but okay. This makes so much more sense if you are you know if your name is the dryer vent wizard than Lynch is right up your alley so the company predicted the ball would wait near one thousand pounds easily meeting. Go the Guinness goal of ninety nine pounds. Oh and the final the final L. product was officially weighed at six hundred ninety pounds still almost six hundred pounds beating the original record or the the standing record by almost six hundred pounds and then the ball was ignited after the official way in and the flames were extinguished by the local fire department again see now. I'm just thinking thinking your your member of that local fire department all right honey. I gotta go to work. We are extinguishing giant ball of went being set on fire today Sundays as you. Just don't know what your workday is going to bring right. They're definitely worse. Things definitely worse things than going and setting out setting going out and and dousing a giant lint fire. I wonder I wonder if so you don't lint that air was probably leeway not believable and I'm just thinking of a wind particles in the air and obviously the firefighters are in their firefighting gear but the onlookers are just standing there. I think everyone should wore masks to. I think too much it's possible. I'm okay with that. One Final Story we are moving out of Michigan but we're sticking sticking with that Guinness World Record theme this one takes us to Indiana and instead of a giant ball of lint now now we have paper mache sculpture and this is an Indiana University club created a fourteen foot tall paper mcshea sculpture that is being submitted to Guinness World Records for recognition as the world's tallest. I'm looking at the picture and from the picture sure I have no idea what it is but I'm not sure what else let's just. Let's let's keep going. The Indiana University South Bend Fine Arts Club said it's fourteen foot tall sculpture made from old at Morton's supermarkets comment cards. That's interesting itself and sixty gallons of wheat paste is over a foot taller than the current Guinness World record holder. Martin supplied the cards cards the club and asked for them to be turned into a work of art so that's cool you know. You've got to get rid of them you. Do we want to recycle them what we want to do with them. Let's give them to the art club and see what they can do with them when we brought the club we told them either way it's going to happen. It's too good of an opportunity for our community. We have to make this happen some way. Everyone in the club was about Uh. We all voted. It was unanimous. We're going to do it. This is from Colton siser president of the Fine Arts Club. He made this comment to. WB NDTV sizes said Paperwork and other evidence is being submitted to Guinness to have artwork recognized as the world's tallest paper mcshea sculpture so it's an art our project. It's a local you know. It's a it's a community project. I still don't know what it is. I liked it. It's made of old comment cards and I wonder if they're read the comment not cards while they were using them. I mean that's got to be a lot of fourteen feet tall. How many cards was there sometimes articles. Just don't answer the questions that I have. I WanNa know how many comic comet cards are in this fourteen foot tall statue sculpture. I WanNa know what the sculpture is or if I'm just dumb and I can't figure it out so many questions I have questions and that is maybe why I host a weird news podcast. I really don't know what to tell you on that. Do I have questions because they host to wear new slot cast I do. I host a weird news podcast because I have questions. I don't know let's just do one more quick story before we wrap this up and this is about cheese because it's cheese right and a celebrity fret celebrity French chef has sued the Michelin Guide after being demoted. Why was he demoted. Well apparently it's because he used Cheddar. A celebrity chef as I said is suing the Michelin Guide because he claims his restaurant lost its three star status for using cheddar cheese in a classic French dish. The the the chef is Mark Vera and his restaurant La Maison Dubois near Grenoble in the French Alps was demoted two two stars in January without warning just a year. After the restaurant secured the industry's highest award the guide which is the standard standard-bearer for the world's best cuisine has not yet explained of Demotion said Mr Ferrets lawyer however the shove himself says an inspector accused him of using Cheddar in a cheese souffle rather than a French rebel Sean Beaufort or and Tom Varieties. Maybe that's what happened. Maybe that's not what happened. the chef who is sixty nine said it was a fromage four. Paul from a man with an unsophisticated pallet so French isn't it from Aaj Faux Pas. I'm just picturing very ending at French chef. I put saffron in it and the gentleman who came thought it was Cheddar Cheddar because it was yellow. That's that's what you call knowledgeable. Please okay so it wasn't even Cheddar wasn't even Cheddar. He put saffron in it and it turned yellow anyway away. He told he said it's just crazy. It's worse than a wound. It's profoundly offensive. It gave me depression. It gave me a depression. I'm sorry for his depression. Russian and I'm into laugh but I can't stop picturing really stereotypical angry French chef he when he did make his name by champing championing his so-called botanical cooking using wild herbs gathered around his restaurants in his native out of Wa region region. He's famous for wearing wide-brimmed black savoyard hat and smoke tinted glasses. He has previously won three stars from the prestigious redbook for or to other restaurants. He learned of the downgrade without any notification or advanced war warning his lawyer. Emmanuel revenues said in a statement well. Hopefully they can get this sorted out was it. Cheddar was at saffron. was something else entirely. Why did why did he lose that Third Star. I do not know but it was a from Hush Faux Pas and I'm going to start using that in regular conversation so if you know me watch out from Osh- Faux Faux Pas coming your way on that note we are going to wrap up this episode of the GMC Weird News podcast. Please join me in next time. 'cause I'm sure weird. This will happen over the weekend. Dan thanks uh-huh. It's cutting into your exercise time it stabbing you in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind. It's pain and it's getting in between you and the life you want to live. CD medic targets your pain at its source it's fast acting relief with active ingredients plus the added benefits of THC the free hemp oil get back to your life CD medic available online and at CBS these statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. 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Episode 32: The Smiley Face Killer Theory, Part 2

The First Degree

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Episode 32: The Smiley Face Killer Theory, Part 2

"Thank you for listening to this podcast. One production. I agree. I agree. I agree. First, the first degree. Things are supposed to have it in movies, not real life. Investigative work is better way. It's crazy way to make a living. You really gotta think outside the box you really do. I mean he's you know. From the beginning of time, beginning police arresting criminals. There's been bringing policemen an emitted some breaking criminals. I mean, this is something that's been going on for a while. And it continues to this day. You know, my main thing would be I don't wanna see anybody else. Fall victim to this. Hey guys, welcome to the first degree the true crime podcast that you might end up on. My name is Jack Vanik. I'm sitting across from Lexus linkletter. Next, Bill Jensen. We are drinking, apple spritzers where ready to go. We are. Are you ready to go? Billy, I'm ready to go and spreads. Billy, I would just like to tell everybody that it's happy international day of happiness. That's when he shows out of all these alien abduction day alien abduction day. There is Billy a Bibliotheque day, there is a national Bock beer day. There's American meat out day. There's national kiss your fiance day. Don't have one of those don't have one of those either. So, yes, that is the day that I chose. And you know what? I'm not even going to pick a crime for that because we're all about happiness today. There's lots of people to murder their fiances. There are and checking or the fiancee's be on the lookout for domestic violence there. Red flags. Yes, you take away from that. There's serious problem. There's a takeaway. It's also the first day of spring, you guys and the day before Jared's birthday. Happy birthday. Jared. Happy for Jared. Jarrett's here. He says, thanks, thanks. Okay. I have my true crime question which is what? Okay. We have to look it up really quick. It is. I took it from a meme as I take most things from as you're being murdered. You look at the killer in the eyes and your last words or the last text you sent. What are they? Mine is and it was to you guys, it said, should we go to the liquor store? See that rocks? And we, you know what's funny. Is that my answer to that is my last, which is yes? Minus he's insane. Yeah. Philip other podcasters who probably guess? Yes. So, and I just realized that, so I want to give a shout out because a listener for the first time in my entire life, sent me something for free and wearing my wearing them they actually match our blanket blanket because they're purple and the company's name. It's a new company called Vijender, VR AR, and they're getting a free at red athletic dress, socks, and they're super comfortable. Listen, you don't put it is kick, actually while I got free socks and you know what? You know what you leader? Here's the thing, we don't even give ads for own project here. Here's here's here's the thing, Jack. You know what you have what is it? Three hundred thousand three hundred thousand followers five. Okay. You get a ton of free stuff all the time. Yeah. This is my first free thing at eighty five. You know. Eighty five hundred followers on thrown down the gauntlet. I'm gonna start getting more free stuff in you. I go give me your face cream everybody giving your face cramps. Not this editor of the podcast. So good when this. Well, listen, this give you this one. Yeah. Vigor vigers. You are a lucky company. Yeah. The, the free shot out. This is a free shout. You know what I one ever? Hey, sock company, if you hear this new sell some socks than come on, and get paid at yes. That's exactly. Right. But I am I am I am wearing them right now. And I'm loving them. All right. It's on. Okay. I'm going to be a three hundred thousand not and you know what? You don't start. I know because all you just put follow all you do is post pictures of you with cereal boxes like a site. Start by offi puffs. What are you cream puff really? Have you guys ever even eat cereal, real person? Everybody followed Jared to is. Jared is followers with germanium exactly. So Jared main, you need more followers than j you writing to song. They never get more followers. It's going to happen. We're making it happen. The only reason why he's getting any new followers as because of. Sing. And by the way, follow Alexis, too, because Alexis has a certain aesthetic that I believe that companies would want to be a part of what is start, sending her crime aesthetic with a black and white thing that you got going on. Okay. I see that only, you know, I think this whole thing is a ploy for Billy to get more followed. I don't want more followers. Yeah. Okay. No more free shutouts so for shouts. Yes. By everyone by an ad. So this is part, two of the smiley, face killers theory series that we are doing Alexis is going to give you a little bit of a summary, you have to listen to the first episode or this is not gonna make any sense, but will summarize it for you because it's probably been a week since you've heard right? And it, it will make sense, but it's more just that we went point by point, and covered a lot of the evidence that are for detectives will three detectives slash doc Elbert, sin, who is kind of the data expert, who was university, professor. We. Laid out their evidence point-by-point, the most important evidence and we were in the midst of that, when we ran out of time last time, so we're going to finish that up and kind of pull all of that together. And then we are going to also go over the other side, the people who dispute the theory, and what they say in the face of this evidence that the smiley face theory, investigators say they have. Right. So where we left off, we talked about how Dr Cyril wrecked basically, kind of went over some of these characteristics in the booth case and he kind of urged the, the police in that case to reexamine that evidence because he's like, really, really, there is something going on here. There's something a mess, and he's as reminder, one of the most famous French pathologist there ever has been. So what we're going to do is hear from Kevin Gannon right now about kind of the victimology and just the overall glaring nature of. Evidence. That's just makes it seem like something is really going on here. This too many young men that have gone missing others face from stances, that fit such as the civic profile of young men college students, they had high from three point seven five, and most of them, and they were small star athletes, and they had a body mass IDEX. It was pretty specific. It wasn't like there wasn't any really tall. Kid skinny kids, fat kids, and they were all that five. Nine five ten to six feet. Six feet one, you know hundred seventy five two hundred pounds. So there was one hundred forty thousand guys. It was twenty two point out guy all, you know, they all that small demographic, that we just figured, you know, that was too specific, their major would've been specific like we they were talking engineers. We had thirty five forty engineers. We had, you know, doctors and studying for and Battiston electrical Cavaco and biological engineers. So all of that, you know, was even more specific we were saying it's possibility is only these kids without Richie at four and your body. I was just was to me at anomaly. So we've brought up Dr Gilbertson a couple of times, and as far as his involvement in this case, he was working at the university of Saint Cloud in Minnesota, and he basically had a graduate student program, and how he got involved in this was that a student at the college went missing. And then he Google to see what happens like let's see what, what happened with a student. He went missing. He was kind of following it. And when he initially Google to find out how many students were missing he realized that there were many, many and, you know, he had some graduate students who's teaching criminology kind of data crunching, to, and he assigned them the project. Like why don't you take this information and gather all of the data about the characteristics of their missing persons case and see what you come up with. And you know, he was crushing all of that. He was being presented. This information by these grad students and he started noticing a trend and it was right around this time that he was approached by Kevin. And now we're gonna hear from doc, who's not a police officer, but a professor who teaches wanna be cops how to how, you know, look for consistencies in in. Similarities, similarity modern patter honors had enough of this opera spreads in the little us different out. But yes, I like I you haven't had enough of the I haven't had I'm telling you know signs. In ten minutes. I'm going to be like, yeah, you'll set a being boom like on my shit. Sure. It's called alcohol. One hundred percent. So we're going to hear from him now. Sherri, don't chillers solving their victims. But. What made this? So weird was we had in some cases, individuals or two or three individuals. Fit the profile BMW to them the same night. Of course, they would show up in the water on different days, but they were having talked to them the same night. And, you know, we don't have transporters like they do on the enterprise in Star Trek. So that's humanly impossible, even if you had a Lear jet, there's no way you can accomplish three or two adoptions in one night. So that told me that this was a little bit bigger than just the simple one person or you know, to people out there and ducking in killing people told me, there's some sort of organized network involved here. So as we talked about the bodies of water where these men were found plays a large role in all of these theories. So they're often found miles away from where they disappeared. And they're often found in the opposite direction of the currents of water through rocky streams, etc. And when the bodies are found there is not much damage to them. You know, if you're with a rocky stream, you're thinking you're gonna get bruises. You're going to get cuts, etc. Which means that they maybe they weren't going through these Rapids or pummeled through these rivers, and they were actually placed in a certain place. You know, five miles down the stream. Every summer Kevin, I plays in here. Take off in my car, and we'd go visit somebody older scenes, and legal, visit some of the newer, one and repeatedly now. Because when we look at the math, we don't look at it as where with the body, cloak to me, look at it as where would I flip the body in? And if the case is relatively new, we can literally once we selected that Satan, go there we walked through the ones or whatever at when we come out of the bushes, there to share state for the body recover saying and like what happened when we went cross country in two thousand seven against in the fourth scene, and letting Kevin I said, here we are. And he goes, what do you mean? And so I laid it out for him, what I've been shade meaningless. Yeah. You're right. And so as leaving town Lieutenant in charge of the case who had missed it the police department when we stop down there, he was out, working another case. He calls us we're talking to him him says we should sell it. I told him where to find the body in about two and a half three weeks. And he did. It was two thousand seven. No one has called me to this day to ask me how I knew where that body spend me, you know where TV I'd be the prime suspect. Okay. So what do we think about what Dr set? I hear what he's saying because there's so many bodies of water in America, which sounds simplistic, but there's when you talk about missing persons. There are so many missing persons in those bodies of water right now. I actually went out with on the Arkansas river with a team that has a boat and then they have these sonars that actually look for fish, but they use them to look for cars and people, and they found they found dozens and dozens of people at the bottom of these rivers and the bottoms of these lakes, and they've found people that have been missing since one thousand nine hundred sixty eight so did they pull all these people? Yes. Sometimes they pull it out. But here's the thing when he used to times did it. No, no. Sometimes it's true. Because in Houston, there's I believe it's one hundred sixty eight cars that are in the by you in Houston that have not been pulled up. Let's and. I've actually asked me like can we pull them up? And they are like, now we don't have the money for it. It's thirty thousand dollars. I've actually got a production to say no, no, the whole thing. Well, that's thirty thousand dollars the pull up all the cars. Yeah. Just like now you probably probably fund, right? Yeah. Let's do that. There's nothing. They're just like, oh, there's nothing in there. Like, with one hundred sixty cars there's gonna to be a crime in there in one of definitely. And if you trunks. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And you can't really see what's in the trunk definitely evidence at the very, there's something just not. Everybody is, is trying to get rid of their car for some sort of insurance payoff or something like that to throw them in there. The and then when you talk about these cars like that, one in nine hundred sixty eight I believe it was in Oklahoma, these three kids, we're going to a concert. They were driving in a Camaro. It's so dark in some of these mid western towns, especially back then they make a wrong turn. They go into a lake nobody sees him again, the missing person poses rep for thirty years, but the car actually just went into the water and this happen. And it's going to happen. More and more, especially as we you know, as we get more drought ish. And like there's less water out there. That's what that's what's happening is that these things are rising to the top. It's crazy. Oh, it's so fascinating well, since we're talking about water and how it plays into this entire theory. Doc shared kind of a personal story with me because we were talking about the victims and he said, you know, I almost drowned as a kid, and I if the victims are he was talking more about the moms in the families, where if some of these people did drowned in some are victim, some are victims of foul play, but he had some words of comfort. Be ready that mothers of possible victims. I was pulled out of the swimming pool grain it, it didn't hurt physically. I was. Yeah. And I really wasn't scared. I just knew I needed to get the service. And that's all I remember it. Like you said it didn't hurt. And I just drifted off the next thing I remember I was laying on my back and they're, you know, pressing out my chest in the water's coming out and that hurt is in the air back in the lungs that kinda hurt but even that wasn't too bad. Obviously I wasn't traumatized for life. That's carting to life. I did have dreams about that up until I was about sixteen some really bad nightmares. 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And if you guys remember from two weeks ago when we did Todd guides case, there was this experiment, that they did or they threw pig carcasses in a similar body of water and we're watching, how these carcasses were decomposing, and it didn't match up at all to the amount of decomposition that they found his body. And so, I think that, you know, people can think whatever they want, but this is a fat in the Dekom is not equal to the amount of time that they were saying that a body was laying in the water for exactly. And it is the most you can't dispute it. No, it science. Man. It's science silly. Belly? As far as the bodies a, there's a lack of decomposition, specifically on these individuals. If these young men were the water period of time that they were listening, then believe me, we wouldn't be in right now that good of investigators. I'm not trying to if a body was missing seventy days. The body would be completely decimated even thirty forty days. Well, we looking at body mission for that a period of time, twenty one days or fourteen days, some of the cases that we show in. Todd guy was messy twenty one days dot com. Both fourteen days, he's in full rigour rigor is a stiffening of the muscles after down which size but the twenty four hours kinison full rigor at the twenty four hour block, and he did this fourteen days. The question is, where would she thirteen day and that goes for Todd guy with twenty one days, he's got three days of decomposition? Where was he ate and it goes on and on? Brian. While he was missing the seventy days, he's got seven days of decomposition on his body. When was she seventy days? So a Jay was missing twenty days as about three or four days, because where was he for the other thirty seven days? So, you know, these cases are read about should be arrest flat investigative, but he a lot of these investigators small cities and also they don't have the homicide experience a fee, that self of you don't fought. He's that we've seen, so, you know, they miss it as Venables enter the fortunately, I Don. Wow, they're Michigan. But, you know they're just getting innovation. Police junk kiss on the water body because they, you know, case closed. Okay. So the drug component in these cases, some of the men were found with anti depressants GHB, if you recall that was case in Todd's death with the anti-depressants and in some of these cases, it's alleged that the men walked really great distances from where they were last seen the bar the party wherever, but then in Todd's case, they said he had such a high quantity of drugs in his system that he wouldn't have been able to walk. He was just so screwed up that he wouldn't be able to off the team. That's right. They put the evidence we've found with the attracted or victim, which is that they trucks, spe- usually found in women for sexual assault cases, not something that would be easy prevalent at young bed drinking. So this isn't like ecstasy of all the drought, so we what we know and what we know from individuals we spoke to who were potential victims and individuals confidential forms that we have in and out of prison. They are being drunks adopted for extended period of time. Then Barda on land places buys award, which is consistent, what we said about the rapid decomposition. Okay. So one of the obvious questions here that I'm sure most people are wondering is what the what the motive could possibly be in the situation. Because it's like if it's you know, Billy, you know about this. They're not sexually assaulted. No. So it's kind of like whether or not robbed they're not robbed. Their organs aren't missing. It's not like some black market organ conspiracy. Yeah. The motive is pretty elusive lucid for exactly of the cases. And that that's, that's the biggest problem. One of my biggest problems with this case possibly the biggest problem with this case, because it's is who benefit coup Bono who benefits. Well, and I guess there were a few cases where I forget, which guy it was that was out a sports game before. And he had been texting his girlfriend that he had been getting like a little kerfuffle with another guy there. So. And he had been like, I'm gonna kill the sky. So there are a couple of the cases worth, like, yeah, the right have been a fight or something before. But. And nothing more glaring than that in that is like. Unreliable about because if these were women you would have seen some sort of trauma. You know what I mean? If this was. As if this is a serial killer. So what is the if this was a serial killer, if we're to believe what these guys are saying that there's forty or fifty or sixty whatever they're saying, what are they getting out of it? Is it just Kelly, not even like hitting a person? But just drowning them these guys are so messed up. I'm gonna take them put them someplace else and do whatever they want to. But there's no evidence of that out. Because there's no because there's a lot of water. So they think they're being killed some other way, whether it be I don't know, probably suffocation. Yeah. This fixation not necessarily manual or ligature couple had ligature, Mark a coupla. So, you know, it's, it's a very lucid subject in Mike. Billy said to even when in prosecution, it's means motive and opportunity. And you can have a ton of evidence, especially you could have amazing circumstantial evidence which they've used convict many people. If you don't have a motive, it's very flimsy. I have like a random question that's not directly related to that but related to what we're talking about. What forms of killing somebody? Do you not see, like physical, like you have a ligature, Mark, or you have water in the lungs from like what, how could you tell somebody without any sort of like a physical fixation is the biggest one like a pillow over the six years. You know, even though you see petite guy in the eye. You see, like these broken capillaries in your eyes, which. Haven't heard anything about in this case, you know, so that's the, that's a big thing when you're choked, you get these burst blood vessels in your eye and even not necessarily choked. When you when you can't breathe. Yeah. And somebody's actually forcefully putting up like a pillow. Running. Because you obviously can't breathe when you're drowning. I don't know the drastic would be the, the water the logs, it'd be would be the key for interesting. I yeah, I think drowning like drowning suffocation by drowning is different than suffocation by a sphinx Zia. Yeah, because it's a different sort of straining that you have. And that's what causes the, the capillaries in the Ida verse. It's very strange. But again, I'm not a doctor, but drowning as fixing is different than manual or any of that stuff. Right. Well, we think that the motives gives hate Louisa hate crimes. But I think one of the one of them would be status because. Most of the kids deselecting are the best of the best. They excelled in high school. They're on sports teams in college. They're very good scholastically, then well liked by people. They're really well liked the net communities. Those are the types of things it was saying, but as far as targeting people young people, you know, that are always living a lifestyle better than you warn for whatever reason. If that makes any, so it doesn't make any sense to me. But, you know in those in the criminal minds, it does. All right. So doc brought up some very strange characteristics, including things turning up in areas that had been thoroughly searched. And when I say things I mean evidence items belonging to victims being found in areas that have already been searched. It almost seems like. You see it in other cases where it's like you're trying to thwart investigation by moving pieces of evidence around. So we'll hear what he has to say about that. Other than the profile of the victims victim, logical profile everybody, folks. And they look at the victims, you know, this is this is how again blown off so lease urban legend anything. Well, you know, and the and but they don't know the rest of it, and if you're gonna truly be forensic Victimologists, or a good profiler, whatever you want to call them. Curl file for this activity involves more than just individual. It involves vocation where whereas happening it also involves the time at which you happening and it involves which the FBI looks at the crime scene or whatever you can't. And that to me was one of the first things every night when Kevin started handing me. Police reports on some of the cases from New York by Adams, Elkins and upstate New York, and I started mapping this stuff up for 'cause he was just talking about how the evidence is reintroduced. So the kid goes missing and three hundred people come down and they go through the downtown area and they find nothing. And then the next morning, somebody calls up says, hey, there's a baseball cap in my backyard. So they go check it out during I've been speaking talk. So then they bring back on the searchers, and they researched the entire downtown area intact. The father, and I think it was his brother, uncle were on this particular porch in question, and talk to the residents of the house, and one went under the poor team, and they found nothing and then the next morning that resident that none calls the police departments, his neighbors and cell phone on my floor. Right by the door. And so they come and look at it. And sure enough in the victim selves. So it's starting to heat up in LA, which means we're all going to be sweating a lot more than we were in the winter. So you're going to need a really good deodorant. And I don't know about you. But I've been trying to find an all natural aluminum free odorant, and my favorite is the coconut deodorant from one of our favorite brands, Copari so co parties coconut deodorant is aluminum free vegan and doesn't contain silicone sulfates parabens GMO's or baking soda, whether you've got sensitive skin, or just don't wanna bunch of questionable ingredients, on your Bod. 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I mean how else can you explain it when you bring in tracking dogs and they follow a sent off in one direction and all of a sudden, the young man is found in? I'm not talking like the dogs dragging to the edge of a river, and then he's found three in that same river three miles down. I'm talking fairly north off into the forest and it can't is found in a pond to the south two miles. I mean is that ridiculous? And is allowed to give their. He had been driven there somehow Innovia call or already deceased in a body bag because he wasn't leaving a scent going the other direction which means wherever he wasn't that last scene mess, where he got snatched repeatedly evidence is found in locations including the body is recovered in locations that have been very fiendishly certain put by airman's and by dogs. And if you map it out. Evidence, usually leans in the opposite or at least in, in a different direction than where the body is supposed to be found any taping input. Then a math person was last seen, and then drawn arrow in the direction that the evidence is leading you, it's usually in a different direction than the young man was supposed to go and get to what, you know, his band that night, whether it was a hotel or a dorm, or whatever, and the are quite often, and opposite directions and then at ninety ingredients or somewhere angle is very like playing the body and that's why it's been so easy for Kevin. I over the last eight years to predict when someone close missing what biting gonna be because all we have to do is find out have they found any evidence yet. Twas the lines from blastings return to locations, plus the line from last into evidence, and then look for the nurse. A water and that's where he spent being in the other direction. That is the long clearing thing that years ago. Ten years ago. I saw that. And I'm like. This ain't right. You should be finding the body in the direction all tracking. That's crazy. So in addition to the evidence in the bizarre outcome of the search dogs, and what they find what direction is they go in. We've also observed cases where these men end up in very isolated locations or locations that are difficult to get to, and Jack you mentioned this, in our Todd guy, episode, where where he was alleged to have been found the owner of the orchard said that it would have been a really treacherous kind of track through, and he would have had some kind of marks on him or would have had raise or scratches from how all of the plants were kinda laid out where he was going through. Exactly. And apparently, this is this happens in many of these cases. So there's a case around a young student named J, Paul Hill. So he was a twenty year old photography major at Columbia college, which is in Chicago, and he's last seen leaving his dorm room and I believe it was during the day to Eddie told his friends, I'm going to go to a party on the other side of Chicago, and it was February twenty seventh twenty ten his body is found two days later in the county, met river and his death is one of those few that I they said, this is an accidental drowning. But then they changed it to homicide. Right. So like Bill, he lasting his dorm. He had a camera on his neck and his laptop bag. But neither of these were ever found money's body was finally recovered. There is no evidence of drugs, or alcohol in his system, and but an autopsy ended up revealing that he died of severe head trauma. There was no sexual assault. But he was only. Found wearing a tee shirt, which is really weird that is strange. And the police initially said that Jade slept while taking pictures that was your initial theory off of this bridge, that he was apparently in, according to their theory was standing on and fell into the river, but they scoured CCC footage, but found no trace them. They also check pawnshops for his laptop and camera to no avail though. They can't even be certain where pole hill went into the water. But the detectives said that they believe it's possible that has left for photography brought him to that river. Take pictures. Of, it's kind of weatherbeaten kind of gritty looking bridges, but they're kind of plagued by this nagging question. How would pull hill who didn't have a car have gotten to this desolate spot, 'cause he was founding t he was found twenty miles away away from Chicago. I mean, he was in Columbia, you're in downtown Chicago. How do you get that far away? Really weird. And he didn't tell anybody. He was going there. How did he get there? 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Also, this is twenty ten it's like we're already deep into the age of credit cards while, yeah. C C T, like the fact that they can't find any trace of him there, but could find him taking public transportation. They can't find him. It's just one of the cases when you see all these cases that are that are in the forty or fifty of the cannon that are smiley face. This is one of them that bothers me a lot. Yeah. Yeah. It's very suspicious. Now, another thing that comes up in some of these cases is aspect of torture, and, you know. We've talked about how the decomposition could have been off in many of these cases, and it sort of begs the question, if they missing for seventy days, and they had the decomposition of four days, where were they? And if they were being held are mean were they being tortured? And this is based on a conversation. I just mentioned the handling the money when she asked me, she goes, I earned that these young manner, drugged, abducted pilgrim period of time, and then she inserted, tortured, and then killed and then dumped in water. The torture Zane. Forget it there's generally. And this is one reason the police have such a hard time with the investigation there in generally, there's no signs of torture. No in KOTA, James's case, there wanna signs that he was murdered by ligature strangulation, but as far as torturing all like doing something for the fingernails or for tweaking the skin. They're using a cigarette you know, burn, them and stuff. No, there's no evidence of that kind of stuff. So just that. Thought out of their mind is well. Okay. So doctors reference, the Dakota James case which is actually the most recent case associated with this theory, and unfamiliar with this case, and it is suspicious. So he's a grad student and he is lasting and surveillance footage walking through the cultural district of Pittsburgh in January of two thousand seventeen and his body is found in the Ohio river in March, which is forty days after he goes missing now, his case again is mysterious because it's believe his body traveled ten miles from where he was last seen and actually through a damn before. It was eventually found. But again, his body showed no visible signs of trauma. Unlike if you're going through a damn if your body is being held pummeled through him. There's just no way that you wouldn't have any visible marks too. So there, there are people that are going to dispute this theory that he has no marks on. What why is there? It has to be something that's weird and the lacrosse, Wisconsin police department lacrosse, Wisconsin is kind of the epicenter of the smiley face killer theory there. They've had a lot of cases so they are in charge of eight of these investigations. If you take a look at lacrosse, and the university on the map, there's a university, and then there's so many places to fall literally fall in the water. There's a lot of places that you can fall out of his allot of water there, and it's not just a lake where there is a, you know, just sort of like a circular lake and then that's it. There's a lot of like little inlets and you know that you can easily just fall in right? And they're in charge of these eight investigations, they re they released an official statement saying that their original conclusions on these deaths that these are accidents drownings. These are drunk is there's no smiley, face symbols around them. And again, you know the smiley face as a as a as a piece of graffiti. It's not only something that people might do, but it's also something that can be kind of interpreted as something might do because it's two dots in an dash really the end of the day. So when you look at some of these smiley faces that they've propped up saying this was found some of it's like it's a mile away a mile away from it. It was, like, come on. I we're we're we're sitting right now I could find a smiley face within a mile of here, and that's always been, my biggest thing about this whole theory, where, again, it would be one thing, if these the graffiti, smiley faces were all the same, but the ones that they're pointing to it's like one has stars for the is one has the is early to like vertical slits like they're all different. And again, they are at differing distances from where the body is found. So it's like how like it just it's a reach. It's reach it's a rich. So the there's a there's something called the center for homicide research in Minneapolis. That published a paper. Or at least a brief saying that this theory is not there's nothing to this theory in a criminologist named Pat Brown calls a serial killer theory, quote, unquote, ludicrous saying that the evidence does not fit. What is known about serial killer? Again, it's just she's, she's saying the same thing where it's nothing more than coincidences based on became a guess, at where the body was found, and then searching until you find a smiley rice graffiti. And Pat Brown is very controversial because she doesn't have a ton of, of sort of training and she's brought up and she's actually achieved. She's put on these shows as this kind of serial killer person. And a lot of people disparage her for her to say that this isn't a thing is kind of big because it would be better for her career, quite frankly. If she was she was controversial. Exactly. Well, she's one that said, you know, if she says, yeah, there's a bunch of people that are killing people, you know, it would it would be better for her. She would get more TV time or whatever for her. To say that is for me. That's more of like it. Yeah. There's nothing going on here. Right. Nothing going on here is hard to say because it's like we, we've already said that many of them are homicides. We don't we don't think going on in this Kyrie. Fuse, some of them off the forty some of them are homicides, but they are not related to this smiley, face phenomenon or gang or whatever you wanna call it really like to look at the police documents because honestly all I've seen him. Everything is just summaries of each case, and it's basically through the lens of what someone wants me to perceive it to be. Yeah. And honestly, like, however, you want to whatever stock you wanna put into whether there is a killer. There is not unless you've seen the evidence yourself, it's really hard to make. A determination that you can really feel good about, I don't for me. It's like I have to study the documents teach people wanna be cops and Chris, Rogers and probation officers and I'm like. Is this a case of individuals who have not been traveling trained, you know allow small departments? You train you the be police officer. They don't train you to be on the site and this meter. So a lot of unskilled, and I didn't know this until recently, but when they did the Jon Benet, they actually had to go get a book because no one in the department had ever investigated saying now. This type of thing, especially when you find a body of water. The presumption is, it's an accidental owning is ninety crime scene if they body recovery eight and because his three, you're that way, a lot gets overlooked. And so that's what I want to kind of do. I need to train my students better. Or is it a case, where the officers are trained and they're just being lazy or maybe they're not being lake maybe because of the politics in their community? They're setting it down 'cause like camping, oh, he said, four words at a police captain or cheap doesn't wanna hear and that serial killer and task taskforce because you're required. A lot of labor force effort, a lot materials, and all of that cost money which most departments don't have nowadays. So the FBI has also reviewed the information about the victims have been provided by Kevin Anthony and to hawk and Mikey in may. Release a statement saying that quotes, they have not developed any evidence to support links between these tragic deaths or any evidence substantiating theory that these deaths are the work of a serial killer or killers, the vast majority of these instances appear to be alcohol related drownings, the FBI will continue to work with the local police in the affected areas to provide support as required. So, of course, I asked Mikey who's one of the detectives on this theory in involved in the show, what has response to these criticisms of them are and, and their theory in their dispute. They're disputing of the theory and what he thought about it. This investigative work is. Hey, it's crazy way to make a living. You really gotta take outside the box. You really do. I mean you, you know. From the beginning, your time, beginning police arresting criminals you know, there's been pretty employees and, and some prison criminals. So you really you really have a look at the whole dull game, not just one any. Event now Z but you have to look at everything I miss information in, in what people say about you negatively that you can take and using the positive manner. Sixty seconds, that's exactly how long this commercial is gonna last for, but do you know what else that you can do? And just about a minute, you can get an offer for your car with truecar. That's right. 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So while Kevin and Anthony and many of the online detective turned up, you know, a lot of disturbing details. The factor means that this theory at the end of the day has been discredited and widely discredited police departments involved. They don't treat these as a serial killer investigation. They don't treat any of these as being linked. The we talked about that Minneapolis Senator for homicide research that saying that no it's not true. The research is investigating the case themselves have come up with a list of eighteen reasons why they're sure that there's no smiley face killer out there or smiley face gang and their reasons are based on two ideas to things that we need to always look at. And we, we've talked about this on the show that the victims, the vast majority of the victims showed no evidence of any physical trauma, and the circumstances suggest that these were accidental drowning. So you've got. They're, they're all the same type of victims, which is the reason why you're, you're pushing it towards a pattern you've got these, you know, white successful kids that are twenty years old that are in college, and they go out drinking, I think, for me the biggest lesson of all this is in the same way that we have in the, the Charlottesville case, I'm like the Morgan case and, like the save the next girl, phenomenon you need to have the same thing with guys and it's not necessarily because there's something nefarious out there. Just guys drink a lot. And if you're drinking a lot, and you're walking home near a, you know, some of these, yes, some of these, I believe a small fraction of them are murders. But a lot of them are people that are just drinking too much walking home and then ending up in a place that they don't want to end up in right? So you, you have to actually go out there on the ground, you have to check. Any bribe it, we've looked at cases that look like they will accidents and they weren't related tells we also found cases, it will actually homicide, but we did see any, any a walking's off our group at the scene. So we had exclude those banging my head against the wall for twelve years. That was the main reason that we went to TV 'cause we figured we needed to go to the public to put this whole thing is the court of public opinion, and let them see if they think it's crazy. Well, let's let you have the police say this crazy, you know, some people that they're going crazy. We need to put it out there. You say this crazy, then show me show me how you could disprove, physical forensic evidence that we have. And you know, top-shelf experts that came on for the FBI for, you know, bobby's, you towed Cheryl, Dr show. Westwood a lady five dollars touchy if, if not the world than the Kennedy assassination. The Martin Luther King assassination, just at the white. He polls, your case. I mean, this is the people that are the festive feel and, and they support us. So as support us in baby, you know, we're not here to starts policemen baby to police, the FBI need to take a second. Look at this believe me, it's going to happen, because when all the baterial out of who's doing it, and why and we show that I felt, they law enforcement is going to have any choice. So I asked the guys why they think police, and I guess society are so resistant to accept this as a theory. But I think some of the resistance that we are meeting from the police departments is they don't want to even see it. You know here's a homicide. This is why time the side they'll go right to, oh, visit a smiley, face tech, this, we don't want to alarm, our citizens. We don't want to let anybody think that has a serial killer in our midst. So to me, that's the problem whereby. They should just look at what we bring them listening that looking to beat up the police. I mean this is our whole lives on working with police departments. You know what we've done investigate, which is bringing information flow of life, that particular case, looking at should be investigated as a homicide, and then afterwards, but it'd be related. Maybe, yes, maybe. No. But this is why you need to investigate as a homicide. So as we've referenced in this episode previously Dakota, James in two thousand seventeen was the last victim, the last death that they attribute to this theory. So I asked them, you know, did they stop then does this mean they just stopped? No. No. Because of this show, we're getting a lot of information coming in on emails about other kids missing. We have a couple of kids. Michigan less two months. Now, are they tied to us? I don't know. But it just continues to this day and these other cases that we really need to look at. Well, let me just tell you that I am more skeptical than most debate the truth. And I really don't believe things on face value. You know, you have to show me, and I have to see it. And that's what kept happening with these cases, it will happen over and over again. And. That was the main thing until I started coming around and seeing the coincidences you know, I'm not a fan of coincidences, and I don't believe in them, you know, just breaking it down to brass tacks, and face value. This is happening and it's happening to this day. So whether or not there are, there is a serial killer or serial killers out there attacking these young men. There are some things that we should consider. From a public service standpoint, the main thing, everybody should know certainly tell students when they're at high risk behavior, how drinking is to make sure they have a buddy system and that they watch that drinks at all times, because it's very, very simple for somebody to Pearl lack of a better word spike, the drinks with a couple of clear drops of fluid and time and time, again, they get sick right from their friends, and, and that's the end of it, but they really need to pay attention to what's going on out there. I believe that men don't believe that they're vulnerable, and they think that who's going to spike, my drink. You know, I'm not a woman. So this brings us to the end. So we want to do now is kind of deconstruct what we've learned on both sides. But one of my biggest questions and this is just one that's organically coming to me is, if there is a serial killer out there, I want to know from what I know the serial killers that I've targeted men, there's always been a sexual component. So I want to know I mean off the top of your head Billy and this is like an off the cuff question. So I'm not sure if we'll know and maybe maybe there is maybe it does exist. But like serial killer of men, no secto. She will component does it exist. It does. But it usually exists with shooters. Like hit mic. Not only that will hit man, but also snipers. You don't now Phoenix nighter long. Allen, sniper. I mean you but anything that doesn't have that, that gun component. It's, it's strange. I can't really think of any off the top of my head. So you've got. Yeah. You've got Dahmer. You've got gase. Those were two that obviously were after sex. I mean Dahmer wanted to create a zombie out of these these, these kids that he was killing for sex. What about the one with the brothers? He would've kept going near the near brothers. I don't remember that was that do we've talked about a four and it was a really screwed up situation. He wanted to be hung because he hung one of them. Yeah. Yeah, I can't marry escaping me. But like it there's always a sexual component with these always. Yeah. And the only thing that I can think of when there wasn't I mean, and there's, there's some that are there are definitely that are some that are out there. I'm sure our listeners. I hope they actually ride in say say, you'll remember some of them, but I'm taking snipers, you know, when you think of John Lee Malveaux and those, you know, those guys in the DC sniper. And then the, you know, but when it comes to this kind of crime that is so up close, where you actually did have to subur- somebody into water or, or, or, you know, we really are not even seeing any signs of trauma. And this is one of the it's, it's one of the. The hard things that you get when you do true crime, when you see something like this, and it does seem like there's a pattern, but then you're out there. You're chasing ghosts. Regardless at this point these investigations in these cases make godless. Who's going? He's proven homicide, which means these cases have to be investigated and everything will fall into place after that. But nothing goes forward until these cases of real. So we can talk about. You know, serial killer is and how they're doing it and they're targeting. Paul, even say these six cases that we've just done a lot of time and effort into. Needs to be request defied. I mean investigate and that's the only way starts. Wellness team. We all want Justice. I think just amazing people would be just be aware aware of your surroundings. Sometimes people hear about cases and a podcast might reawaken them like. Oh, wow. You know, I do recall hearing about such and such last year. I wonder if that might be one. So. Based on podcasts and our show. And you know, other each of us, we're getting new information of potential victims. I mean, this is something that's been going on for a while, and it continues to this day. You know, my main thing would be I don't wanna see anybody else. Fall victim to this. So for me, it's the awareness, I made a promise while we know these patients connected show, not gonna stop well definitely not him. Stop and tell I break some Justice to the victims and to their families. Any of us could have been in this situation where we drank, too much, and we walked home and, and something bad happened, right malls? Like, yeah, we're trying to find an explanation to something that just could have been a mistake. Yeah. Or I'm really unfortunate on circumstance or it's like you're seeing some of these in their some nefarious characteristics in some of them. And then you reach to explain a Mark on a body that was actually a result of an accident. You know, I mean it's, it's really hard because it's like a lot of this criminology and a lot of this post mortem sort of analysis of what's happened is through the lens of perspective and everything, sort of done through the lens of bias, whether we want it to want that to be sure or not. Because these are these are bubbling up to us because there is a theory to it, and I think that there, there should because they were definitely some here that are hankie that are that need to be looked at more. And when police departments do see something. That is like this. I eat. Oh, you'd never want them. If this was your loved one. You never want them to just say that this is an accident. You want them to keep going. Yeah. But at the end of the day, a lot of these are just accidents at it's tragic, and it's, it's wrong but it just it's just it is what it is. And I think that the end of the day, though, like all the work that these four men are doing and like trying to bring these cases to light like if they can solve one. Yup. I completely agree if they're out there, trying to say that this Miley face thing is, and they can just get one case that solved and, and bring Justice to the family. Then it's all worth it. And I completely agree with that. Well, like Mikey said earlier, you know they didn't name if this Miley face, like that's something the media ran with, I think it started. It's this very altruistic mission for them. Yeah. Where it was like, I notice this pattern. I mean this started for Kevin Gannon and ninety seven with the Patnaik Neil case and this Bondi form at the family and to say, you know, I promise when I retire, I want to get into that, because it looked suspicious, and I think their, their intentions are so pure. And when you see enough shitty stuff in the world, it, actually wouldn't surprise me if we ended up being like there is a serial killer it wouldn't because everything that I've seen in this job is beyond belief, so. The thing. Yes. Does it go with what serial killers? Do know. But we've been proven as far as profiling over and over. They believe serial killers can't stop can they absolutely we've proven wrong time and time again. Yeah. So it's like you never know I am open to anything truthfully because full. Yeah. And it's like you just have to, like, yeah, I is an altruistic thing. These guys are just trying to make right in the world and give some families, some kind of in honestly anything's possible. Not only that science is all fury. My thing is is that as long as. It's good to put a spotlight on any of these crimes to give more investigation to as long as they don't necessarily take spotlight away and take resources away from another one that very well might have been might have been homicide. That's where that's where I always go because yes, and because I know that there's two hundred twenty thousand solve murders since nineteen eighty and we need to be focusing on all of them. And if we're running after ones that are potentially accidents we need to look at them, but we look at all this other ones as well. Right. Right. Well, they're doing good work. It's noble work, and, you know, we appreciate it, and I'm sure the mothers victims, appreciate it, or, you know, all these deaths need to be looked at whether it's suggests conclusively, put them away, as SNL deaths movies at some of them out of the category of accidental death into murder. You're doing some good work. So I really appreciate them coming on. Yeah. And you know, this is a two parter. It's a really. Complicated complex theory. So you guys have anything to add feel free, forgive us, if we're missing something we mean yeah, there's a time that we're leader so much. But, you know, three partner, we didn't feel like we should go to deep because there's a lot we don't know. Right. And if you guys want to dive deeper into it watch the oxygen show with all these men get on it as well. And we do thank them so much for talking to us. And we hope that like this can be like a little push forward for people, you know, learning about the case. And if anybody knows anything to come forward and listen, I will say this, I kind of got my start in all of this by studying the Kennedy assassination, and I thought there was a second gunman, and I researched it, and I went through the, the single bullet theory in the blood splatter, and the grassy knoll at all that, at the end of the day, there wasn't there's really just one shooter, and it was Lee Harvey Oswald, but I trained myself. And I turned myself into this, and I've been able to solve ten murders because of it so anything. Exactly. It's like a gift and a curse, because you're Tate's. A lot of people in, in my everyday life. I do it. And people what with me like why are you saying? But what about this? Yeah, it can really piss people off. But it's what we do. Somebody's gotta do it. Somebody's gotta do it. All right. Well that concludes our it was it was kind of a three parter smiley face. Todd was its own an hall. But yes that was our segue in. 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May 2020 Wrap up - Arbery, Floyd, Cooper w/ Ret. Lt. Diane Goldstein

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May 2020 Wrap up - Arbery, Floyd, Cooper w/ Ret. Lt. Diane Goldstein

"Everyone and welcome to another episode capital Hunters podcast. Podcast is dedicated towards bridging the divide between the police and the communities that they serve. Thank you so much for taking the right with me and with us as you all know. I usually do a end of the month. Rappaport try to end in rapple. This month of May twenty twenty. I mean as twenty twenty could not be any worse. The month of May has just been an absolute disaster when it comes to law enforcement. There's so many different stories we can talk about. We could talk about the botched search warrant raid in Kentucky. We talk about the seeming Indiscriminate discrepancy between how the New York City Police Department I was enforcing their social distancing African Americans and as in contrast that to how they were treating White said so. There's so many different stories of you talk about and of course the majors major stories are Ahmed arbitrary. And of course this newest most recent one George Floyd up in Minnesota. So listen we're going to get into it and I've got a great guest along To come along with me on his right today as we do a monthly wrap up. Her name is Miss Diane Goldstein. We met at a conference in Minnesota and Missouri. Back in the fall of twenty nine thousand nine had a great time speaking with her very knowledgeable lady in she was kind enough to come on the podcast and lend a little bit her wisdom and experience into what's going on with law enforcement and this divide the trying to shrink down that his only continued to blow up in an exacerbating and get so much so much worse. A bit about MIS Diane Goldstein. She is a twenty one year veteran. Walk Cert- first female new tenant for the Redondo Beach. California Police Department seized the speaker and chair for the Law Enforcement Action Partnership a group of criminal justice professionals that work advancing justice in public safety solutions. She has gust columnist for many media. Publications in recognizes the subject matter expert on criminal justice drug policy pairing in on television and radio as a political commentator. She wrote an article concerning the RBI case called. Amid Arbor case deep investigation must take on structural racism so she wrote that particular article of Filter magazine which is online magazine and so we reached out talk to each other. And I'm so glad to see wants come on the podcast. I appreciate it and so this is going to be our monthly wrap with them. Take a look at some of the major stories for the month of May Twenty twenty and Make sure that you rate subscribe and share this podcast with your family and your friends so without further Ado Ladies and Gentlemen hairs the interview with Myth Diane Goldstein. A member of the organization. So I just Kinda WanNa talk about Crazy to me this month of May has been unreal. It's it's a show like I haven't seen in quite a long time and you know what we can get into this. You know in two thousand sixteen. I wrote an article Beckett. Reprinted advice news call while a white cop supports black lives matter and it was act the Dallas Police Department shooting and it was after flannel. Casteel I you know. They're just blew. Everything up in this is is the exact same feeling. I'm I'm getting but it but there are some interesting things that you know we can talk about Melissa. 'cause I know you're on. Twitter is different than it was four years ago when I got lambasted for talking about how a COP could support. Black lives matter. Now you're seeing. Police cheats active duty police officers. I even just went to police one which I still belong to and and can look at the comments. Even the cops after seeing the video are say. There is nothing defensible about this. This is a horrific thing in these guys deserve to lose their jobs. So we're making progress but we're stepping so I mean things are changing and then someone does something stupid and it calls the whole entire profession into question. Yeah I absolutely agree. I absolutely absolutely agree. So why don't we jump into it so I want to welcome you to show Diane Goldstein? We met at the leap conference It wasn't even a lead conference. It was the Drug REFORM CONFERENCE BY Policy Alliance drug policy. I don't even know who had a good time. I was there down in Missouri and it was good time. We met there and I still have your card around here. Somewhere or didn't forget about cars So so thanks for coming. A Captain Hunters podcast. I really really appreciate and even though I read your bio to the audience there. Would you just mind? Just tell us about yourself and how you can stay safe and these covid Nineteen Times. And all kinds of my. Name's Dan Goldstein. On a twenty one plus year retired Police Professional I retired as a lieutenant was a division commander for a couple years in Redondo Beach Police Department in California. And currently I'm the chair of the Law Enforcement Action Partnership I've been with Leap since two thousand and ten. When I started as a speaker around the issue of drug policy reform I had a My older brother that brought me to advocacy work because he died from a drug overdose Back in two thousand seven and during the process of his entire life is there were various points where he was involved in the criminal justice system that significantly impacted him in really horrific ways including before he died and so sometimes it takes personal experience to change people's viewpoints. You know policing experience on the street. I always had a different viewpoint about what our role was. But but I never really understood when I dealt with folks who had had been impacted so severely by the criminal justice system. What it really meant until I saw my brother experienced some of the issues that he did around drug law enforcement in particular which included Perjury on a police. Report Where I let him languish in custody for like two or three months Didn't believe him and it was A radical life changing event for me to see the criminal justice system in its entirety through the lens of someone who was victimized by it and it changed my viewpoint pretty dramatically. And I didn't I didn't know about leap back in two thousand seven and just happened to be at a a debate During the original marijuana legalization campaign in California in two thousand ten where there was one of the judges that was a speaker for league that was debating police chief and I went up and introduce myself and I got pulled into the League family And it's you know it's it's a life-affirming work and I look at what you do what I do. What all the active duty criminal justice professionals that belong to our organization do is is. We are the people that understand the system and we are the people that have the ability to change it and if we can't change it law enforcement is is is going to end It it should end as we know it but it is. It's going to change change in a way that is going to be detrimental to our communities. If we don't change it you know if law enforcement doesn't take Floyd George Deck really to heart and say something has got to be done because what I'm seeing and I know you're pretty active on twitter and I don't know if you've ever really worked or or read a lot of work by abolitionist. there's abolitionist who literally are preaching to abolish the police and It's like this further their message because there are people now that I have worked within the past there people who I follow on twitter. That would never talk about ball. She the place who are now talking about abolishing the place and so you know. It's we know that that that's not likely to occur in the future. You know we know we understand. Our experience Has To be focused on how we quickly change law enforcement. We can no longer. You know accept these incremental steps. We have to start really talking about how long it needs to be changed. Completely knits entirety. Training you know. Sanctity of lives unions their leadership. They're so many things that are intermixed in this and we have to work with communities of color that we have marginalized for years and be the be the people because we're in the position of power to to be the ones to go forward and say we need you the community that were supposed to serve to help us change police for the better and we can't do it without them. I think in the past. We've been trying to do it without the proper input in the help and You know we can take the death George and do something positive so. His death is not meaningless. Does that make sense? I mean it's this month has been you know. I'm at arbitrary. You Hab Lavelle Police. Department with that horrific no knock raid that killed Brianna. You have the COVID nineteen Race disparities policing in New York. You have this you have you know. On at our berry that was literally executed in a modern day lynching and I don't Kn I'm frustrated because I don't know how to how to push reform and how to blow up the system any faster than were doing right now. Yeah you touched on a lot of things that I really WanNa Really WanNa get into and one of the articles. Let's just kinda start at the top. Here is one of the articles that you wrote in Filter magazine. Right leaning. I'm Ann Arbor case. Deep Investigation must take on structural racism. If you would I know so many people you talk about pushback so many people talk about structural. Racism is not a thing. What is that? Can you define you know? Could you put your finger on it? Can you define that force? What what do you mean when you say structural racism sure so when when I look at the entire structure of our government system and what people tend to forget is that there were baked in racism and policies based racism that started you know hundreds of years ago and very specifically? Let's take a look at drug policy so my master's degree is in the intersection of kind of a public health. Police scene and rice an we have to remember in today's Modern Day. Police officers are never taught this. They don't understand what structural racism is is all our drug laws. Were designed Aram. Minorities cocaine laws african-american marijuana was Hispanic opium and heroin. Were the Chinese and those baked in law. The baked in racism in those laws. Continue to pervade today because what we do is without intentionally being racist and. I think that this is the thing that law enforcement doesn't understand. This is what in my master's course. I think was very critical because I had a bunch of active duty. Police officers from across the country at at at use year by in a in a a master's policy program called Crime and justice system. It was out of the school Social Ecology is. We fought about this wettest structural racism and police officers. Don't understand because they've never been taught the history they've never been taught the red lining of real estate and segregation and how that develops You know an and pushing a african-americans two particular sections into an urban environment. You know we don't talk about the the school systems or the lack of job training or the economic opportunities. We don't talk about poverty. You know is an long forcement. Thinks that it's just about the laws. And they don't understand the big macro world and how policy is enacted. I mean and you can just go in and look at Back DEMOC research or the press and media in how and specifically in drug enforcement is how we stereotype people. You'd think about the white opioids suburban environment that for the first time we weren't stigmatizing drug users because we treated them as victims. You know you had white kids from the suburbs. Got Addicted to pain medication. And they weren't stigmatize as a criminal. You know but if you go into the ABN American community or the Hispanic community and see the same description of black kid or brown kid who had the same issue happen to them. And they're arrested there stigmatize their criminalize. They are others and so you know all of us. I mean I've been called a racist significant number of times in my career. And it took me a long time to not take it personally and to really look at the issues and then really to be insightful about law enforcement I mean. I started nineteen eighty-three. I retired in two thousand four in the nineteen eighties. I had lieutenants who were telling us which all of us ignored because we were smarter than the lieutenants back then that if there was a black male that was in our city that need to be stopped just because he was black and so we were able to to call out. You know that bad behavior simply by ignoring them but and making certain that when we wrote in the field. We weren't doing that but no one called into question back. Then that this white lieutenant had the form and the ability to save that without any consequences to action whether it's deliberate racism or implicit bias. It doesn't matter that were creates a structural racism system. It is baked in into the system and until we eliminate a lot of the laws that allow things to happen and reduce the contact with people. In general. Things aren't going to change. I think the importance of drug legalization simply at this point for me is it eliminates probable cause for an option. Stop someone on the street. It forces them to have to go back and do policing and not. Just you know do lazy policing it. You know is drug policing allows us to by people's rights and we violate people's rights in communities of color much more than we do and white suburban communities that have economic resources when you You know let's talk about a lot of the differences that people have and I think life experiences and all that kind of stuff so when I told people when I was a police officer or when I or even when I tell people I used to be a police officer you know if I was talking to someone who was white they would say. Oh Yeah you know Mike. My uncle used to be a cop and he was a copy eighties and seventies in this than the other. And you know and that you would think that a form some type of bond right okay. You know I'm doing the same job that that your uncle or father step father whoever did but always in the back of my mind. Because I'm personal color. I always think exactly about what you said. What did those people tell was? Your was your uncle that you're so proud of one of those people who were stopping my uncles my cousins and so that's that shows the dichotomy of the different life experiences that people have. I'm certainly appreciative of of of enforcement in a place that it's allowed me to go but that's that's always something in it's in my mind is. Is that different life experience. When somebody tells me I used to be a cop and but once again in the back of my mind is did you stop us. Did you think this about black males? Did you clint drugs evidence? Or whatever right and and and It's just it's really just disappointing. I think as we as we mentioned this is coming to a head at this point in this time because a cell phone cameras because the cellphone camera I want. I want to continue with arbitrary situation in structural racism type of thing because I think that the armory situation really shows a serious light on structural racism right so You give a good analogy above the but the drug laws and how they were set up to suppress detain harass people caller so we get our berry And so we see the actual not just a police officers in and of themselves performing or not just the citizens doing certain things because they didn't think there were to be any consequences but then we see the police who the guess the Gwen Chronic County. Police Department has been under investigation. They're they're cheap has now been suspended. Or fired or whatever's going on with that and we get the District Attorney District Attorney. Who had to recused themselves. And so this is what we are saying. We talk about structures. Right won't get we get citizens who think that it can act without Tani. We'd get police officers who are backing up refusing to arrest. We got district attorneys. Who are now saying. We're not going to do something. In other cases we get judges so I kind of I kind of Blab about that but I want to interview you. Tell me what your thoughts are about that. And that's exactly I mean. The arbitrary case was the perfect example and some of the things that came out after the article were very. Very interesting is the The House that was under construction. The owner ended up sending a video clip to believe it was the police chief of Gun County and said hey what do I do about this? Okay and bed. He but it and it wasn't a. I don't believe it was a video clip of of Mister arbitrary of Ahmed. I can't remember who was a video clip so there were multiple people walking onto his property. And it didn't become an issue until it was a black person you know I. It's you know so so the police chief. I believe it was the police cheaper. Someone in in in the police department directed rected him back to the suspects and said the next time that happens. Call these guys and so instead. It's like well. Why would you do back? Why would you create a system of vigilantes? You basically gave the suspects permission to do this. And and so you know. So the the structural issues for me you know is I blame. The the Cox should have had some Moxie. And that's the nicest word all us because there's a better word for it if I was the supervisor on that seen as a sergeant and as Lieutenant I would've made sure those guys went to jail that day and then let the. Da refused to prosecute or release them. It it would have been a no brainer. There was a cold-blooded murder. They had the videotape from the beginning. Those guys should have been in custody in jail at that moment if the Da Van. Basically says we're not going to prosecute we want more. You know we. We want to further the investigation. Things happen I understand that but for the for the two days to do what they did shows their complicity and protecting one of their own and very clearly the second day in particular who then wrote the defense is stunning to me. It is absolutely stunning to me and And that's the perfect description. A baked in structural that they neglected to do their job because all our jobs should be to do justice and that's to exonerate people if the facts aren't there it's to ensure that victims rights are protected and and every da who talks about victims rights and dozen support a victim. Like Ahmed are Berry is is in fact supporting structural racism and matched the baked in things that people don't understand. I'll give you a perfect example so years ago I had a case so I worked again unit and Iran our gang unit. An had a case of a kid who we help get out of the gang. He moved out of the city are great a few years later. I mean he had gone through juvenile probation camp and everything else. Few years later The the gang shows up at his doorstep and they pushed their way in on the allegations of being friends. In this one particular gang member in threatening Travis and Travis Panics and kills him with the shotgun and and and the suspect had this really really long history of violence and we went to the DA to try to help the suspect in this case to say. Hey look there's mitigating circumstances. Let me explain the whole situation and I remember the. Da Basically say our job is about convicting people and it's not about anything else and we don't care what your opinion is of this. This is what we're GonNa do and he went. He got sick teen years to live. Sleep the fifteen years from for a second degree murder and then a five year enhancement for fire at age nineteen and so so those are the things that when when we talk about baked into the system is that what is the role of the DA. It's not just convict people. It's to do justice you know. What's the role of law enforcement? It's not just convict people. It's to do Justice. It's to be fact finders and be about the truth and so you know as we continue to redefine what the criminal justice system's. GonNa be in the future. We're going to have to implement things like restorative justice. We're going to have to change the dynamics of how we charge people. We're GONNA have to change. The criminal. Justice system treats marginalized people who can't afford fines. You know we had debtor's prison. We had a two tiered system of justice right now in our country and it's absolutely appalling and it's based on economic resources and bet money and whiteness in many aspects. Yeah that's that's well said and very disappointing. Um What's involved in in the investigation? That was part of the title. What's involved in investigating this? I you know I think a big part of the issue is we have to set up some type of system like the National Transportation Board. Does we have. We have to have the ability whether it's at a local level state level or federal level where we need a criminal justice equivalent of the National Transportation Board that comes in into these types of situations and does a critical in thorough assessment of everything that went wrong and had to prevent it happening in the future and then we need to follow up. Do we need legislative changes? Do we need policy changes you. What is involved in this type of situation and and you know yes. It is once the videotape was released to the public unintentionally. By an attorney. Who who who thought the guy was guys were completely justified in killing on what was wrong with that. Attorney paid for that. But you know what? That's okay we'll take a professional law enforcement response that within twenty four hours those guys were in custody there was a an and then and then they continued the investigation. They saw the videotape of Ahmed arbitrary in the construction site. Do nothing more than having a drink and I can tell you I. It's funny it's you. It's I completely appear wide. I was born in Mexico City and so culturally. I I I'm Mexican and so but because I present as white is on judge much differently you know I i. I can't begin to tell you you know. In in many aspects. That's part of my privilege in law enforcement you know is people would make comments about people of of Latino Culture and I'd have to pop up and say I'm Mexican. What you just said is completely inappropriate and it would be you know and so. It's you know that taught me a lot about kind of stigma in implicit bias. And how law enforcement you know can view people that aren't necessarily look like them and You know it just it just becomes one of these things that We got to change. You know it's it's an it's hard because how do we? How do we identify biases given all the rigor in higher? At least at least in California you know I. I don't know how it is in other places I imagine. It's it's a lot less of a rigorous standard. But how do? How do we get rid of bad today? Saucers how did we get rid? A bad prosecutors. You know how. How do we prop up good weeks? And I think that's really important question here in you know on on part of the good news that came out of if there is any the came out of George Floyd step is the police chiefs and the police officers who were making very public statements against the officers. Who did this who are basically talking about how the firing was completely appropriate? Who are basically Looking at the incident and saying this is shameful that this occurred and it's going to set us back with the people were supposed to serve and protect. That is the only bit of good news that years ago people would. I don't think had the courage to say this and I think you know our organization that you're a speaker for Larry is giving people that are criminal justice professionals. You know the backup to be able to descent and say we can't have this anymore. People have to be held accountable. The system has to change. We have to do a better job of educating our officers in our. Da's of what structural racism is or isn't an how we can better serve our community and our stakeholders and and I think part of it is redefining. What public safety means. I try to use more of a holistic term. I use community health and safety because that makes every single person no matter what their economic resources are with their. They're homeless or living a million dollar mansion stakeholders in defining what community health and safety should be. It's not just the COPS JOB. It's not just the DA's job and I think we need to continue to wrest power from them and we need it. And and that I mean I think legislatively we need to call out unions. We need to call out some. You know we need to call out People like Bill Bar and and the the joke of the new presidential commission on policing it is a joke. It is his statements that people if they don't respect the cops don't deserve one horse protection it but again the good news is you have law enforcement professionals leaders pushing back against that type aerobic and that's what that's what's changed and in an it's not changing fast enough. I'm incredibly frustrated by the lack of movement forward but it is changing and maybe maybe this death will will get us pushing forward in in a much faster way. I certainly hope so. I'm an agreement with everything you just said. I like what you said about the national traffic and safety bureau I had Michael Bell and if you've ever heard of him. Mike Bell was a Was An air force. Colonel Retired a carnival when he was a major He lived in Kenosha Wisconsin and when he was a major In the airforce. His son was tragically killed by WISCON- By the Kenosha Wisconsin Police Department. I about story. Yes yes yes and so. He was one of the first ones to push for this national traffic safety type of bureau a for law enforcement because he was completely dissatisfied with the investigation within hours of of the actual killing the DA. There had the chief of police had said that the killing was okay. They had a collected. They having collected all the evidence and all that kind of stuff. So He's been he was on a podcast pushed for a lot of different changes inside Swanson. Kind of bring you audience at the speed about that and and I agree that we need some type of overarching independent type of investigative Force Union Agency. Whatever to come in anytime there's You know police shootings and really do an investigation. And we certainly need district attorneys. Who AREN'T WRITING. Defense Defensive Refusal letters and let's. I've never been to loss day in my life but I read that. I'm like a believe that this what this man is writing. I can't believe what this means writing. I you know. Any any had videotaped this is the thing. This is so hard. Because you know we we compartmentalize law enforcement and pain and things that you see all the time when you see someone dog you know. It's a pretty horrific thing whether it's fatal traffic accidents. Who Child Abuse Investigations? You know. I've had friends that have killed themselves. it's FRAUM A- really makes you think about things differently and Four these days to ignore that trauma to the victim's family about I mean I tried not to Put out that video on social media because it was so horrific. Because I can't even imagine being the mother of Ahmed because I have a son who's twenty nine. I have one and that something like that happen to him and to see his dad on television and in the media like back. You can't ever erase that to not be able to protect your child and for that the A to ignore evidence and and that's know and that's why the Georgia Bureau Investigation Man. They got called in says they got called in boom. That's how things should happen. That's how we do justice. There was never a question. Never a doubt in you know for for Americans like Candice Olins and the as I call them the I come the race characters or Laron you know or or or or folks like that. Who continue to perpetuate the stigmas about people of color is stunning to me that that people like that are allowed a platform and and I okay. I get it you know. It's it's you know that people in America still buying into their ideology says a lot about America. I mean this you know this this. This mom from the racial disparities in in Kobe. Nineteen in New York to see what was stabbed like three hundred forty plus citations and like three hundred four or it was like three hundred four citations and three hundred were black and there was one white person right. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah I mean it's Covid. Nineteen Police Seen Right. Now is is drug war policing. It's the exact same principle it is that you you know is legislators. Don't understand the impact of unintended consequences of good intentioned loss. You know drug laws were racist and then they became good intention laws in the nineteen eighties in the nineteen nineties. But make no mistake even even under Ronald Reagan. It was about black people in craft and not white people who use cocaine and you know the Wall Street you know. We all lived through the nineteen eighties. In policing was it was all about people and Even a good intention law gives us as cops the right to kill people and so before war. We need less laws not more laws. We needed lots and lots of math. So when there was a social distancing ish in the subway cops should have been doing is handing Max out to people did you. Did you see the videotape of the The Philadelphia where an African American got on? The bus can have a mass. There's a sign says. You know no mass. You know you can't be on the bus so the cops get called. There's like ten of them that are dragging this guy out and it looked again horrific horrific horrific horrific. Why didn't someone just? Why wasn't the bus driver equipped with mass when someone walked on? Hey here's your mask. Can you please do favor? This is the new rule in over in Europe. I was watching a videotape of Spanish. Police officers who were down in their subway system and people were coming in without masks they were handing them a mask. They're handing them a mask. And that's the difference between being peace officers and mindlessly policing people. So what's the reason for that is it? This country's to big I mean people have made You know the those same analogies concerning Norway Netherlands Switzerland Spain Spain. Whatever those countries in you know whatever sixty eighty million people we have three hundred and thirty or whatever we have million is the size or is it just this is about? This is about control of biking. I think it's a combination honestly. I think it's both and it's it's you know it's it's how our system was set up. I mean think back to trespass loss or vagrancy laws and Englund vagrancy. Laws started out with the peasants. Nowhere answer buts about it. You know you can go back and look at historical Research and then the Magna Carta came in and that's one of the reasons why the Magna Carta came but you know vagrancy laws in the United States. Were set up because of black people. We had Sunday like I would like I was in California and I grew up in in Redondo Beach Torrance and then Lived in Orange County for we moved here. Orange County California had probably some of the most significant sundown laws. People people are like what are sundown. Lots suck sundown laws. Were basically that. If you were black or Hispanic in Orange County you had to be out of that town or in your house by sundown not white people you know you you you know you look at you look at the you know our history with the Ku flex time you look at So much of of Almos- Almost all the laws that we've created not all of them but some significant ones are created as an easy way to maintain order and not deal with systemic issues in our society so why I always talk about budgets. And it's a it's a weird thing bring into you know this this conversation about civil rights and human rights and how we police people but I always try to tell people that if you go into our government and you look at individuals. Cities Budgets budgets are a moral argument when we budget pulp for police more than we budget for education or for mental health or for job training or for after school programs or for drug treatment on demand more shortchanging programs that do more to reduce crime. And if we're really concerned about public safety is all those other programs would be budgeted at sane place that law enforcement or the fire service was and that's the other part of this issue that we're not talking about right now we're starting to have conversations about it interesting enough. I think it was Durham. North Carolina. Day I just read an article in all. Send it to you and and it was the article the title of the article. Now's the time to defunct policing during the pandemic. That's and no I saw the title. I read the Article. I did see the title. Yeah read Article Act in. It speaks to the abolition movement. People are really upset and angry and they WANNA abolish the police department. Well there are cities right now where you have citizens groups who are making the argument that no we shouldn't fund more police officers we need affectively fund these other programs and you know what. I can't disagree with what they're doing and I and I you know I. I hate the abolish the pool conversation. Because it's not an all or nothing okay. It's just like you know it's when I wrote the article advice for years ago it was. It's not mutually exclusive to support. Black lives matter and to support the proper role of policing and what it should be. We can have both if we basically agree that we need to sit down and have conversations and understand that we in law enforcement we in government have held the position of power. So it's up to us to make the first move. If I was a police chief I would be meeting with organizations like that and I absolutely support funding more money into your programs. How do we do this effectively? So we maintain community health and safety and wellbeing. Let us work with you as a partner instead of the budget fights that you have. What were your thoughts when you first saw the George Floyd Video? Tell us what what went through your mind when you saw disgusted. I you know it's a overwhelmingly shocking that these officers were eight either so poorly trained to look at that video and there a point where he went limp. It didn't need to happen. Why are you sitting with your neon? Someone's neck for nine minutes for four but was four minutes after he died. I mean you saw the the urine puddle. I hate to even talk in these terms but it's shocking and that's an an and it can't be defendant in any way shape or form an interesting. Enough I haven't the the fraternal order. Police the national fraternal order of police. That normally coming out and saying re really incendary things about You know black lives matter and and you know what's going on in our community. Even they've been silent except for the local union who said let's wait to all the facts. Come out and everyone. I know that's viewed the video. Says there are no facts that needs to come out? This is it. You know the police chiefs are saying this. You know a officers I know are saying that. It's you cannot view that that video from Perspective and say there is anything that supports and justifies. What happened there? It's a? It's a potential forgery. It's a misdemeanor may be happened. You have felony felony forgery charges. I mean you know that we used to have a bad checks section. It's about the same thing an and it's again it's it's it's how we do policing in areas better marginalized if you know if that was a a a white homeless man you know in in Beverly Hills would have happened. I don't know you know but I just. I just see this as officers poorly trained out of control. The officer I think is now we know has a history of Complaints that none of them were sustained. So it's you know again when you start talking about. Systemic issues is why today with technology do we not have warning systems implemented every police agency when it comes to use of force or complaints. I mean I'm I'm sure I'm sure you were a suspect in an IRA. At various times in in I was you know but I think about I I I go back and look at my complaints. They were all about me being you know you know I. I had one lady who who complained that I that I invaded her personal space. You know in in citizens do complain and citizens do make false complaints. But there's a there's a large bit of truth that you can define if you have an officer that consistently being complained about you have Asian. You have a problem and you need to a you need to look at it and deal with it you either. You know have an officer. That shouldn't be a police officer or you have a poorly trained police officer and and you have a lack of supervision. Yeah I think that that's a good assessment and at the that's exactly what I think happened. You talked about the policing in these particular types or parts of town areas for officer. Show for forgery. Complaint is that not a waste of resources in and of itself and you know I asked you. I'm going to tell you that I was watching. I did a video dissecting the case I really took a lot of energy and effort for me to sit there and watch and I couldn't watch all the whole video. Think as soon as you as soon as he went limp. I was I was done in. Oh as soon as you start coffers mother what is this what? What am I watching here? You know I just just just can't just can't is this reconcilable. We talked about many chiefs. Who are saying that this is set us back is. Can we fix this in my heart? Our organization leap exists because we know it can be reconciled but but it's GonNa take some significant work and some significant funding and it's going to take an honest assessment by many police officers and that's the hard thing you know it adds. I've written lots and lots articles especially around the issue of drug law pleasing and in particular. You know you go to list serve. That are private for police officers and you see some frigging horrible things that are being said. I mean like I literally had to Like I just dumped my facebook account. I'm off facebook. I said I can't anymore in a big part of it was the the politics and some of the police groups that I belong to that that I just I. Just it's like you know is what are we doing? Do you guys honestly believe this? Are you so ingrained in that law enforcement bubble that you don't understand the big world and I think that's a big part of it you know? Education is a huge issue I think the thing that was so satisfying to me. A after getting my master's we had a cohort of like sixty seventy a bus from across the country. There was probably about fourteen a bus. I was the only retired member enforcement. everyone else was from the FBI to California law enforcement an in the beginning. The active duty guys. I said there was a black African American. Fbi agent who used to be a teacher. Who's actually stationed out here in Las Vegas Nine? I need to reconnect with them. Because just a really sharp guy and we started talking about these issues structural racism and I would sit there and talk about disparities and drug law enforcement and the need for sense regulation and how it undermined all Americans you know constitutional rights. You know why we marginalize people at that. You didn't hack you intentionally be racist participated in a system. That's courts structural racism. And I think that's part of this this very very hard conversation to have that. Just like the abolish. The police conversation is we have cops on one. In criminal justice professional someone in and we have people that have been victimized by the system on the other end and people are Incredibly emotional deserve to be incredibly emotional on the victim side which I believe are the people that we've marginalized and have suffered under under the brunt of the criminal justice system and then you have the cops who who feel targeted as well. You know the the whole war on cops the whole you know I. I had a guy who was a former San Jose police officer that family on linked in a few years after I wrote that article on Weiss for the black lives matter that wanted to send me his book on White Black Lives Matter Organization as a terrorist organization. He wrote a book about that. Yeah yeah he yeah. I'll I'll get his name and I WanNa talk to this guy. You know what? I'm not even engaging wha- just didn't even engage him Beauprez I just ignored it because there. There's there's no winning there I'll send you the information. But but he's he's very smart and it's really interesting. He just wrote an article on That was sent to me on policing during this pandemic and how police officers have taken an oath. You know to prop up people's constitutional rights and pandemic policing goes against it and the person who sent it to me. Who's friends with him? I said well. Why don't you ask him about if this only applies to white people or black people because he saved the complete opposite when it comes to drive a long forcement and to you know protests and two shootings? You know that law enforcement has had that Have impacted people in in such negative fashion? I mean he's one robes guys. He sounds like one of those guys that that will be defensive of white males running into the Michigan capital with guns But but but if Colin Kaepernick wants take a knee during the national anthem been a problem with white males can't get haircuts and want to go back to work. That's that's a real problem. We need to stand up protests. One got knees put on her neck and we get choked out. When it's gotta be quiet about no I definitely want to this. I'll I'll I'll I'll send you being. Actually you know what maybe we can have. All three of us do it. It's hey you know you you willing to talk and an interesting. He's also kind of a forensic force experts so he's always defending cops an officer involved shooting. Okay definitely not. I don't I don't claim to have that much expertise but I. I wasn't instructor for three years and defensive tactic so we can go a little bit so but but but I think that's the whole thing is you know is law enforcement doesn't want to be insightful. And and are intransigent about this issue. In and so the beauty of the of the masters program was at the end of the two years of us working together and even though it was an in person and an online program. Is You know we have a significant? We had like eighty hours together. During the two years is at the end of the two years you started hearing folks were active. Duty Officers talk about structural racism and understanding the difference between being racist. If if you're a police officer you belong the Klu Klux Klan and you hold white supremacy belief. Your frigging racist. Shouldn't be allowed in one forcement if you're a police officer. That doesn't understand what structural racism is and if we could do a better job of educating our officers in an in an academic setting in an academy setting to bring in stakeholders from the community to talk about you know the advent of laws and why they still have an impact into news. Keller I work narcotics high. Didn't know a thing. About Prohibition Era Wads and you know until I came to work in to leave and start doing academic research and went. Oh my goodness let you. Don't in the congressional record. You have white congressman in the early nineteen hundreds that are calling people racist names. Yeah Yeah I think that's a I think that's a big huge part of this issue. Is that were unwilling? You were unwilling to educate law enforcement really treated as a profession is is is a law enforcement is just white. People in general don't know their history or I think it's about. It is a combination you know we we talk about trying to professionalize enforcement. You know in California I attended a four and a half month academy that was sixteen hundred hours to be a COSMO. Cosmetologists are an institution or a barber. It requires almost you know double if not three times the amount of hours to cut someone's hip you know law enforcement shouldn't be like that it's like okay. We're going to give you a basic academy but then we're going to demand that you go back and get a real education not just an academy and education. An and I think that because what I saw from the officers because I didn't. I didn't finish off my degree until my fifties my bachelor's degree I you know it's Life gotten away I I didn't. I had almost my bachelor's degree finally went back. School got my master's degree. But what I found. Even both the sergeant and lieutenant and as an officer is the better educated. The officers were that I work with for the most part there to Arizona officers. There was the Vietnam style officers that I worked with. Were the lease racist most community policing orientated officers? And then there were my peers. That were absolute jerk. Sometimes and then we had some really educated officers who had both the street experience and education to put the policy pieces together to to to really work on policing profession. It you know we want policing the change week actor treated as the profession and we don't necessarily at this point and you know I. I don't know how how changing you know do. Do we require people to have bachelor's degrees like the FBI does is that eliminates a lot of good people that can that are police officers. I mean when I got hired so you know. There's these balances how do we encourage that? How do we make certain that our officers are educated in the right environment and not just in the police environment you know because every time there was a new law that was passed? And we were forced to train our own. Everybody just rolled their eyes and whistles. Just some you know when racial profiling Wa- got passed in California. Is We did the training and it was worthless. We didn't bring in stakeholders we didn't bring in people that were impacted. We didn't you know we really adopt and believe in the change in the policy so it was doomed to fail talk about I want. I don't want to hold the too long. It's fine we're good. Good so talk about your thoughts about the the wrong with the Louisville Brianna Taylor. Here's another systematic racist part about it and from my perspective is that The officers that arrest her boyfriend who shoots back which is like salt in the wound. Insult to injury. You all mess up. You know you messed up. And then you're going to charge someone with murder. So what are your thoughts about that? Well you know. Isn't that the first thing I think back on on how we were trained that if you lay hands on someone they got to go to jail right. That's that that's that old school mentality of not looking at. Oh my God what went wrong. You know. That's having that sentinel. Ntsb type of you know soups. Lack of supervision is in no from some of the things that I've also read that they're now calling into question the probable cause on the search warrant bottom into the no knock search warrant so it. There is no doubt that I think one of the single biggest policy failures that our country has been involved in has been drug law enforcement simple period end of story. It has it changed the dynamics of policing It created a mentality of the war on drugs. Which it's not it's a war on people and it's a war on people that are much different than we are. And it said up policing for profit that that you know we were so hungry to to you know get and stop these big cartels that were seizing peoples property violating their constitutional rights and everything. That was involved in that case from beginning to end was wrong. It's you know it's if you don't Hab Procedure. Set up for search warrants. If it you know it they already had the suspect in custody which is all they had to suck at the suspect in custody and so they believed as I recall that this apartment was being used and that this guy was somehow tied to them so they didn't do their job. They didn't you know in in in you know. People were critical about while he's in custody. Whitey have a another search. You know. It's Iran a career criminal narcotics unit. It's like yeah you know we've taken people outside their homes and then gone back and done a search warrant but had to have a next. This guy didn't even live there. And so you what would I always love is so let's go back to Philander steal the the NRA. How many guns have you taken off? People you know again is you know. I've had guns pointed at me work. I didn't shoot someone. Yeah I mean you know it it. It goes back to lack of training lack of supervision back to the demonization you know The difference between how the media and politicians and law enforcement has portrayed black criminality versus white innocence in pay you. Have you know the real conservative groups? You know whether it's it's you know Heather McDonald at at who does work? I think it's the Hudson Institute or or the Heritage Foundation. I can't remember which one she's web that always talks about black crime yeah. I'm looking forward to having her on one day. Go ahead is just. She just missed construes. The lack of context in in the stat. She's the one that wrote the book the war on COPS. Yeah I mean there is no war on cops there is right now is is law. Enforcement is has the least amount of deaths that we've had in years. We're we're having more. Cova deaths than than officer involved. You know shooting deaths were were. They'd been gunned down and an but from beginning to end. I just blame. Drug prohibition drug law enforcement the emphasis on drug crimes which disproportionately falls on people of Color Lazy Policing. They didn't do their job. They may have perjured themselves on an affidavit and if they did they should be prosecuted for that and then I blame organizations like the NRA that don't really support new Americans and their rights to own and bear guns who who demonize black people who didn't do a thing for full. I was hoping you know Flannel Castille. Here we go. Let's have this discussion about the second amendment. Because I don't WanNa take people's guns away you know it is but why are we not defending the rights of African Americans to own guns? Do you think if if the Michigan protests were all wack matter lives protesters walking into that capital slung with guns and rifles. What do you think would have happened? Listen it would have been it would have been ugly that would have been ugly and the NRA would not have would would have had something to say about that. That's not what we want we. You can't protest the capital. They would have some kind of ridiculous foolish nonsense so I was very happy to see that the. Da drop the murder charge against the victim. He's victimized as well. What what are we doing going into? Someone's house on a no knock warrant at two o'clock in the morning. There is not a a drug case in the world that is worth risking. Our officers lives and so so. Let's have that other conversation drug law enforcement rhys officers lives needlessly and if we really WanNa talk you know about you know what we're doing. Why are we sending our? I in to risk their lives for a policy that has been shown to be neither efficient or effective. All we do is play drug warmer. Welcome it that's it boom. It's never gonna it's never gonNA end. Why do we endanger people? And then when we make a mistake why do we try to cover it up with the criminal prosecution? Here all all-share story I was a sergeant And I was running our our narcotics unit but I was also managing our peer counseling program and our our price negotiations unit. So I have a big background kind of in critical incident management and some other stuff. So I'm home Sunday night and I get a call from my from my lieutenant. Who Basically says I need you to the station. I need you that probably pack extra clothes. Because you're going to be there for a long time and I need you to call every peer counselor in the department and get them to the police station right now. I'm like Holy Shit what happened. You know the only thing I could think of is that we had an officer killed. It's like we have not killed goes now. We didn't but we killed someone that we shouldn't have and it was like wow so roll. The station called the peer counselors. And what happened is we had a parolee who had just been released from prison. Who had immediately absconded from prison F- from his parole never. Once his parole agent was an alcoholic stole a car and did a hit and run in our city. So we find the CAR COMES BACK. You know stolen. And we have our officers in pursuit out of our city and now going through our most the beach Manhattan Beach Elsa gun dough and then pass L. A. X. Airport into LAPD jurisdiction and we spike strip Doesn't stop the Guy you know how they can't pick them because there's too many cars around. Finally the tires go flat at the other side of the lax in Westchester helicopters. We have way too many police officers there. Because you know how pursuits go. We have every other law enforcement agencies. Got Police police officers. They're they're like literally. The scene is an absolute mess and sergeants there. guys refusing to get out of the car so they pepper ball the car and and the guy exits out of the car but he's still refusing to combat and so we had just implemented less than lethal shotguns but our range staff in their wisdom back then didn't want the bad guys to know that they were less than lethal so they didn't cut the bright yellow stock on them. They just wrapped reflective tape at the end of The the shock them. So now graveyard. Run the other side of lax. You have lights and sirens on every car going. You have helicopter. You have a massive typical situation. That is really messed up. So the start calls for less lethal you got two of our officers that are standing next to each other. One of them is holding a shotgun. One obser- goes less lethal the one obser- who's holding the shotgun swears in the noise that he said no shock done one officer takes the the shock on thinking. It's a less lethal. Shock then. Goes up deployed. What he thinks is less lethal and shoots are suspect in the chest. Suspect goes down dies immediately. This is in front of Twenty twenty five police officers helicopter. It was a horrible horrible scene. The officer who killed this aspect is really religious. He goes into a meltdown when he realizes what happens. They have to place him into the back of the police car because he's already threatened suicide. He's devastated so now we have all a graveyard. That's out there shouldn't have been so now. So were assigning peer counselors to everybody so brand new police jake. I'm a you know he's been on our agency for a week. Maybe two weeks and everyone's in and were set there and I'm the only the the investigative sergeant me running the counseling program. Moon tenant and the captain's to the chief and they basically say you need to do everything you can't make certain that are operas healthy and we're GONNA figure this thing out and what we did immediately is did an internal assessment. That said our mistake are bad. This was a horrible policy failure because we should have had the yellow shocked and stock on it. We immediately called the press. Lapd came in. Did the investigation. We were critical incident. Debriefings we had peer counseling. We we this OUGHTA was off work for six months. We had to take his guns away but we saved him. We saved him. He came back. He's still a sergeant on the agency right now and we without having to be sued without having bad press we got a hold of the press. Who was our local contact? Who always work with US and said we're going to give you everything. We're not going to hide a thing. The community supported US within a month. We gave the victim's family a million dollars. We did it in Internal Sentinel Event and recognize what we did. We said we were sorry. I think that getting in front of it and taking responsibility transparency is all that anyone has ever want. Anyone has ever want to just be transparent. Don't lie reports and tribe covered things up. You make a mistake. You make a mistake. If something's as you mentioned that that story tells about a mistake it was an accident. It was a poor policy. So take take take ownership of and so I think that's what it is. I'm GonNa let you go. I got two more questions share. We'll talk about The opposition right In I'm going to include abolishing the police net talk the Tommy Lawrence the Kansas Owens. Why do these people do this kind of foolishness? Why did they pick up the fraternal order of police? When they say crazy things in also titus in unnoticed long kind of question but titus into Eric Garner right. If if Eric Garner at I I was on a just released episode a friend of mine. Who's a pastor in Minneapolis and so I said on his he did a facebook. Live and I was on there with him. I said. Listen if if Eric Garner and Daniel Pantaleo. The officer in case would have been convicted. I almost guarantee that this situation would have happened because that would send shockwaves. And ripples the minds of every law enforcement officers anyone anytime. Says they can't breathe a you get a different response but because Pantaleo got off because it was refusal again by the Structural Racist System Alway Up to including AG Bars Justice Department refusing indict this. This caused his whole cascade of events. Talk please talk about the opposition fraternal or police. Nypd UNION In the hard part because we we belong to gains as we grew up in our organizations in. I'm a I'm a real union supporter if we stock to wages and working conditions but instead what unions have become is they've become lobbying arms of law enforcement and so they're no longer serving. I mean they`re. They're serving their purpose but what they also don't understand is every time they protect a bad cop. It causes these issues. I don't understand why we just don't say you know what there's an investigation critically there is. Nothing more than you can do but instead what you need have done. They've done very successfully is they have bartered in memoranda of understanding. You know heightened police officer bill of rights. They you know there there is. It's going to be so difficult to dismantle how we will police accountable accountable because of law enforcement ammo using unions. And so you know is is when a lot the abolish the police. People are talking about legislatively. Take away the ability for law enforcement to have unions. And I don't I just you know I don't know how that's GonNa go. Because here's the issue is You know I've had this mantra for a long time about around the criminal justice system. No the police. Outside of the military in the United States are the only people that are allowed to kill people. That's it okay just note you know no one else can? Legally I mean citizens can get me wrong but but you know what what I mean by that and we always fall back on to the our job is not to make the loss out and have you heard it. It's just enforced the laws and that's BS. Because if that was true you wouldn't see the millions of dollars spent by police unions fraternal orders. A police organizations by professional law enforcement organizations including district attorney's or police chiefs that have a heavy presence inside legislature. And so until walk horsemen gets out of the lobbying business. I'M GONNA continue to oppose and out the hypocrisy of the unions and I understand a again. How the Abolish? The police folks have a lot of rights to say what they're saying because the power system is unbalanced is the unions are simply trying to protect their own political self entrenched interests and they're not serving their constituents in their communities and if they were if they at least acknowledged it than than. Maybe there'd be a place to start but they won't instead. They protect the bad cops just like they protect good cops and so you know I I saw in our organization and I'm sure you did in yours where you had supervisors who intentionally targeted people and try to get them fired for no reason and then I also and then I also saw the flip side that we could get rid of bad police officers because of the Union. Yup I saw both. You're right you know so. There's so so so there's those issues but but what I'm not going to do is ever back down from calling out. The the collision nastiness the echo peas like the New York Sergeants Benevolent Association. They're absolutely one of the worst. As is the fraternal order. A place out of Philadelphia. You look at their leadership and their leadership is predominantly white and old protecting their own self entrenched interests who refuse to acknowledge the Bacon racism in the system. And instead you know don't care because they can't get fired and we'll get paid a lot of money and and I think that's the thing that's appalling to me as a as a tax payer you know is we directly fund law enforcement and Indirectly Fun Law Enforcement Union dues. Okay our money. Our taxpayer dollars is being used to undermine Halsey and reform that needs to be implemented purely for political self entrench entrusts. And so until you know until you know I I try not to make this clinical. But you know because I'm kind of like all over the place relative to politics. United Support Medicare for all but but I'm also fiscal conservative in some other areas. You know independent thinker. I think it's crazy. It's crazy just to be a republican. You you agree with every Republican thing. You do every democratic idea fool. It's it's completely foolish you know. But until the Republicans start calling out wall for smit unions. I'M GONNA play the Union card on them and the and again. That's that's the thing it's like. How did we allow these organizations to get to this place in in California? The the the folks that drive me crazy on top of the police. Unions is the District Attorney's Association. Who Basically is you know? Every reform that we've made in California is at risk of being lost because of their organization and cops who were the tough on crime. Oh look at look at what no bail has done with nineteen. We can't arrest people you know. They are literally perpetuating. They're waiting for the next Wurley Fort. Right right right and and they're using that for their own purpose and so you know. I don't agree with with a large segment of what you know. The abolish the police people want. But there's some significant things in there that I agree that need to happen and should happen. I gotTa let you go. It's been almost an hour and a half year really could I'm really. I really appreciate the conversation. Thank you so much for coming on. Just finish up by telling us. Where do we go from here? How do we fix? This is an annoy before before Too Far gone. I guess your words of wisdom about how we can get on the road to recovery. I think it's incumbent upon us as career law enforcement professionals to be the people to go into communities that we have heard marginalized and say. I'm willing to listen because I know we've made tons of mistakes and we don't want to see this continue. What can we do to help like? We need our community to help guide us. And that's the only way we're GONNA fix this. Thank you so much for coming on the PODCAST. I know I was GonNa let you go but I had a out of conversation on a front chief of mind of a friend who has chief today. Matter of fact he called me and You know he's really broken about the situation as well The fluid situation of course talked about You know our Berry and of course we talk. We talk about Amy Cooper. You know the the white woman screaming get into that. I'll let you I'll let you go here but but we were talking about all that kind of stuff today. And I'm really thinking that you know in in connection with Eric Garner. I think the public is really having enough enough enough of this. And as we saw in the video people were telling him the officers. Get off and let them breathe. You can't breathe his nose bleed and all all of it. I think that one day if not soon and I would not be surprised if the public sees a situation like that and just massively attacks in just goes and just goes crazy. Because I can't take any more of this I don't think we're far away from that so I hope that the suggestions that you've said today that we're all saying in that law enforcement listens. Politicians listened rights nut not just police chiefs but these politicians should trying not to say listen. Knock it off Just got called in in into Minnesota that into Minneapolis. They called in the national. This reminds me of the Rodney King. Riots and Ferguson and we haven't learned this is what I don't understand we haven't learnt and not only that I'm GonNa let you go. I promise Rodney King Ferguson. I'm sure that you read the Kerner Commission You know the nineteen sixties. Let's not go let you go. I have you back you back on this all day all night but but thank you so much for coming on great conversation. I'm definitely going to have you back. So keep your phone and email and you will definitely really apprentice. I could talk for hours officer.

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It's great stuff like i said penna fever bounds and this isn't the only city this isn't the only city by far that this is going on you know people and baseball traditionalists and we talk all the time about the designated hitter later and everything else in baseball whether or not the ball is wound tighter and all this kind of fun stuff well one of the criticisms of baseball and this goes way way way way back in the way back machine wildcard but the wild card is added a level of excitement to major league baseball and again. We talked about this the not too distant past. I don't like the one game play in wildcard against wildcard. I think it should be best at three. I mean the season so long anyway. I don't see what difference that makes. Wchs match wildcard against wildcard play best of three to get in. I think that's fair but you look at it and teams teams like tampa. Bay wouldn't be in the conversation right now. Tampa bay's a hell of a good baseball team there twenty games over five hundred twenty games you look at the nationals and the phillies in the mets all within three games of one another but none of them closer should than six to atlanta so there is a race for playoffs here milwaukee same deal three teams in the central. I mean this is what makes baseball great and the funny thing is when you look at it and as we talked about dodgers leading major league baseball with eighty four wins wins d yankees with eighty three chances are pretty good at least in the american league that one of the wildcard teams will have ninety he to ninety three wins this year so it's not like they're backing into the playoffs. These are relief teams with elite records who are trying to get into the playoffs and perhaps make some noise as i said am i comfortable with the wildcard wildcard. One game aimed now not really. 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I might as well be prepared one thing that's being said over and over and over again whether it's locally or nationally whether it's on your local local radio station or television station ron e._s._p._n. Radio or e._s._p._n. Television is well. The third game of the preseason is what everybody plays the regular. They're not doing that anymore. There's guys that aren't going to play in the preseason some due to injury some due to precaution these commodities and that's what these players are. Commodities are just too damn valuable to put them out. They're on an everyday basis and risk them. Having injury now injuries happen in practice we see it but they limit the contact in practice. Some of them are non contact injuries. We get that it happens but as far as being in the football game they're limiting a lot are there contact to scrimmages and practices and they're keeping these players out of the game saquon barkley. He's not going to play in the pre. Season bell is not going to play in the preseason. Andrew lock is not going to play in the preseason. Antonio brown is not playing in the nets for different reasons but he's not going to play in the pre season season. They don't wanna take the chance of these guys getting hurt and wrecking their entire seasons and you can't blame them. I mean it sucks the fans because the fans if you're a season ticket holder you're paying maximum dollar as far as your season ticket plan plan to have to go well you have to go but to go to a preseason football game and they're still getting your money at the concession stands and you're still paying for parking and and everything else so a lotta times even though you're paying one hundred hundred and fifty dollars two hundred dollars for a ticket a lot of people just don't go to give them the friends who can't afford an n._f._l. N._f._l. game during the course of the season here. Take it go the n._f._l. Has your by the shorties when it comes to that and i'll tell you something the next collective bargaining agreement that is going to be one of the major adjustments it is going to be that there's going to be less exhibition games preseason games and there's going to be more games added to the regular season probably one and it'll be an unbalanced silence schedule and probably an additional playoff game where there's an additional wildcard edited. I don't see the any other way for them to do it now. The trade off on that is going to be since it's approximately a fifty fifty split between owners and players. It'll probably go up to fifty two or fifty three percent for the players in order to accept that deal and more than likely that seventeenth seventeenth game is gonna get played at a neutral site because when you think about it they're playing multiple games in london. There's games down in mexico city. There's there's games in canada n._f._l. Is looking to increase its global footprint even though it hasn't worked out particularly well and they've gone to other places but i could see a game in germany because if we remember n._f._l. Europe when they were over there it it went pretty well in germany any germany and london with the two teams where it went particularly well but i could see additional games in mexico for teams that play out west. I could certainly see another game up in canada but it's early in the year but it it it's going to change and it already has with these coaches. It's just not what it used to be and it's amazing. How many people who do what i do for a living haven't caught up yet. Honestly they have not caught up now. The other thing i want to get off my chest and and i'll i'll tell you something whatever odell beckham junior's obsession with the new york football giants is shut up sit down and when they call your number lay all right because man i shut up shut up enough a traded you. They did not want you anymore. They did not want your the antics. We can debate debate the merits of whether or not they should have moved you for the package that they got but you are gone john. You don't live in new york anymore. Well you might live in new york but she don't play in new york anymore. And this obsession with why the giants moved him to cleveland the latest out of him with the article goal was they wanted to bury them and send them off to die professionally. Obviously shut up shut up. Honestly catch football pee on the sidelines or whatever you next celebration gene is going to be and try to win some football games with cleveland and they should win a lot of them this year but you talk about a team. That's going to have a bull's bull's eye on it's back. That's a team because there's been more hot air coming out of that camp for a team. That's literally one nothing since national football league football went back to cleveland. Everybody's gonna wanna take them down and baker mayfield. He's gotta be careful too. I talked about this before. Baker mayfield got drafted look. The guy has a skill set all right brown's roll the dice number one draft pick overall a lot of people made the comparisons to johnny manziel considering yeah. I have happened to follow oklahoma oklahoma state football religiously because of the fact. I lived out there for a long period of time. I knew he was no johnny manziel. Oh you got a ticket for peeing in public after a frat party. He's he's. He's volatile personality so i'm put the flag in the middle of the the ohio state university football field coaches weren't too thrilled about that. He owned up to that in a recent article and said yeah his apology was completely insincere. I respected that but one of the thing about baker mayfield is that he's played his entire life with a chip on his shoulder. He's always been too small. He was always the last guy i picked regardless of the fact that he had a strong arm. He was a walk on in texas. He was a walk on and oklahoma now university the university of texas but texas tech. He made football teams. He became name an elite player on the collegiate level wanna heisman but his raw raw style chip on the shoulder style doesn't play well with everybody and i guarantee you even within his own locker room. There are certain players that doesn't play well with he's energetic genyk. He certainly has skill. He's won football games to this team and he's gonna win more football games for this team but he got picked over the likes six of sam darnold josh rosen lamar jackson josh allen and they rolled the dice with him so far are so good but i'm telling you if they lose football games. His style is wrong with some people and and part of the thing is he doesn't keep his mouth shut and the latest thing that happened was the g. q. Magazine and i'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt here because does this also you have to be careful about what you're saying and he referred to current term which for people read articles on online which most people do he he called click bait which one hundred percent right about and baker mayfield make comments about daniel jones with the giants and eight to the point where you had to reach chat clear the air about the article that was written in g. q. magazine. He was quoted saying that it blows my mind that the giant selected did daniel jones with the number six pick in the n._f._l. Draft now this is quoted. He said some people over think. That's where people go wrong. They forget you gotta win. Which dana jones was not a winner at duke. Either you have a winning history of winning and being that guy for your team or you don't but mayfield put the entire quote out there on twitter and he was actually talking about himself and the evaluation of quarterbacks on the way teams go about picking their quarterbacks. Jones's name was referenced in there but it wasn't a direct knock on him because g. q. is very selective about the part of the quote that went out there and mayfield owned up and he said look it seemed disrespectful and i can understand that but he was talking about himself self being drafted number one overall then he went on the raft about a rant about quarterback evaluation so he felt the need to reach <music> out and one of his best friends in football is on the giants and saquon barkley so supposedly they cleared the air but again it's click but again you have to watch what you say in front of a microphone or whether or not you're being quoted directly because every time they stick a mike in front of you for any kind of interview print radio television it's out there. It's on the record and you're gonna rub somebody to rockaway. Let's step out right now when we come back. We're wrapping up here in the attack. I'm bob black. He's cutting. Make sure you don't go anywhere <hes> there's there's much more than just miles than i. There's a lot of pieces of this puzzle that we're trying to move forward. That's that's the thing about it. You know you hear a lot about what it's been but it's about right now. It's about what we have in this building right now. <hes> we don't care what you've done in the past. We care about what you're going to get this chris team how we're going to hear better fan. That's that's the bottom line. That's why i say that with a team mentality <hes> you can either join us or you're against us and that's fun. This is sports overnight america. Imagine this is your money and someone one wants to take it from you. Who is it the i._r._s. They want your money and guess what they can legally take it all of it. If they want remember. They sent you that letter that said hey a bunch of cash and we're going to take it from you. 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That's eight hundred four three zero ninety five seventy one <music> now more of the sports attack with bob black here on sports overnight america attack hope your joy joy and i am certainly enjoying talking to you. <hes> jets lady unveiled like i said ain't gonna play. The preseason says needs his teammates teammates to hit him. In practice well don't just hit them in the right spot because if you take his knees out or something along those lines are going to be in the football league for very long as he said go for the ball things like that so i can get prepared and that's a part of the double edged sword about holding these guys out. Les bell hasn't played football in from nineteen months or something along those lines he still should have plenty left in the tank but when you think about how much pittsburgh used him when he was with the pittsburgh steelers and he sat out all last year and he's back in and said he's on board with adam cases decision to keep them out of live action but he needs to feel that pop and yeah. It's one thousand nine months. The thing you worry about was without the contact does he get banged up in the first game him and you lose them for four weeks or the year so he's giving cases fifteen touches a day which there's a lot for a running back and you just have to hope nothing weird habits something gives out on the turf or whatever the circumstances are but he's one of the storylines lines you gotta keep an eye on going into this honestly and i guess the other one and if you watch the oakland arizona cardinal game last tweak arizona's still a bad team and oakland's frontline defense ate them up and the arizona cardinals are trying to add weapons to help pilot murray they added michael crabtree who's obviously in the sunset of his career but has never been a speed guy so they bring i am in guy runs routes. They're adding him to the roster. Rookie receiver corinne butler hockey butler. Excuse me fractured his hands and they released four order. Your number seven draft pick overall kevin white fool. Somebody will give him a chance but he just hasn't fleshed out who's been bossed as a national football league player all right. That's that's it for the attack. Opium joined it. We'll talk again. Approximately twenty three hours makes you stay to all the programming here on the network for scott cutty have a great day. Everybody <music>. You're listening to the heartland newsfeed radio network at live live dot hotline newsfeed dot com. This stream is supported by advertises and contributions by us on facebook twitter and instagram's the public news service daily newscast for wednesday august twenty first two thousand nineteen. I'm eric take it off off the trump administration weekends banking regulations and events. This weekend marks the four hundred anniversary of slavery in the united states. I today president trump signals. He's looking at possible. Tax cuts amid signs the u._s. Economy could be slowing down while speaking with reporters reporters on tuesday trump indicated temporary payroll tax cut is one action his administration could have in the works. This comes after several senior white house officials denied to the washington post. They were discussing such a move trump and other members of his administration have been quick to point out that the economy still is booming and and unemployment is at a fifty year low however economic indicators showed trump's prolonged trade war with china is adding to fears about where the economy is heading economists also say tax cuts would only provide a temporary impact but another move by the trump administration is fueling anxiety as well consumer groups sir wanting that new financial rules will make a recession more likely after the trump administration moved to dramatically weaken banking regulations. Suzanne potter explains on tuesday federal regulators approved major changes to the volcker rule. Carter dougherty with americans for financial reform says the rule was put in place after the two thousand eight financial financial crisis. The golden rule was to ensure that banks. If they gambled they did it with their own money that they did not leave taxpayers on the hook or they did not create instability the financial system the vocal rule prevents banks from using money to make bets on market outcomes trades that are backed with tax payer money by the f._d._i._c. federal regulators appointed by president trump argued the changes will give banks greater flexibility events marking the four hundredth anniversary of the birth of slavery in the united states will take equates in virginia this weekend on august twenty third sixteen nineteen. The first ship bearing enslaved africans arrived at point comfort now fort monroe in virginia many consider the moment a dark part of history. That's shaped this country forever. Kathy spangler executive director of the weekends activities says the events are designed to help us confront the rule slavery has had in our country we forged a great democracy and we also forged a score on the earth in slavery and and to be able to be open about that and have conversation around it and not be separated by it is what we hope for this event and the ongoing conversations award ceremonies honoring african americans who lost their lives to slavery will kickoff friday morning at fort monroe. All activities are free and open to the public public. This is diane bernard. Reporting this is p. N. s. reproductive and civil rights organizations are hoping to strike a final blow against ohio so-called heartbe bill. We get the story from mary. Sherman senate bill twenty-three bans abortions a fetal heartbeat is detected which typically is around around six weeks of pregnancy. The law was temporarily blocked from going into effect on july third pending the outcome of a legal challenge on tuesday. A motion was filed asking for a permanent. I'm an injunction to prevent the ban from taking effect in the future. Jennifer branches counsel for the plaintiffs. The law has been clear in this country that a ban dan this early in pregnancy prior to viability is never been allowed so the judge should follow the law that already exists and declare the statute unconstitutional fifty percent of ohio voters said the opposed the herpes bill in a recent quinnipiac university poll and sixty one percent said they agreed with the roe versus wade decision that affirmed access to safe and legal abortion is a constitutional right north carolina's marine fisheries commission is expected to vote thursday a on a proposal that would play certain conditions on shrimp trawling in order to help juvenile fish in the atlantic ocean. The new rules would allow the state to regulate the times when shrimp could be harvested managed the coastal areas open to shrimping and limit the size of shrimp nets tim guests quickey with north carolina wildlife federation says destructive the fishing practices have harmed the health of the state's fish populations on average for every pound of shrimp harvested. There's an additional four pounds elves of fish harvested in wasted supporters of the proposal say putting caps on shrimp trawling set commercial and recreational fisheries on the road road to recovery by reducing juvenile fish deaths and giving them the opportunity to spawn at least once before being harvested nadia ramlogan reporting a new poll shows that utah women ranked last among the fifty states for the amount of money. They make compared to men data from a study by y._m._c._a. Utah and the institute for women's policy research found the so called wage gap for utah women with fulltime jobs was just sixty eight point nine percent of what similarly employed men make ten percent lower than in the national average aaron jemison with y._m._c._a. Utah sites variety of cultural and policy based reasons for utah women to a fallen so far behind not until you you start to look at what are some of those gender norms going on in their home life but then also how do we make workplaces more family friendly so that both men and women can take care of those needs. He's will we really start to see that gap clothing and that's really where our policy focuses jemison says the study finds that women often bear much of the caretaking burden in families and that can have a major effect on what jobs they take or how long they keep them and that was mark richardson with our final story. I'm eric tag enough for public news service. 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Now we are on actual radio station and so we do have to follow those pesky f._c._c. laws that means no cursing but bring up your topic talk about it in a clean way and we will put you on the air the we in studios myself chris jay and angie and angie and jay took part art in something really interesting <hes> some time ago and i know it was on the free keen blog today talking about an auction. We're gonna get into this in more detail nice because i do want to hear about it and i wanna hear how it went down and a one one of the things that surprised me was j you are not a licensed and approved auctioneer nope no but all auctioneers have to <hes> be members of the american association of auctioneers or i'm big trade organization. You have to go through state. Licensing got any evidence any of that khoder constitution or the state so so-called runs by applies to me. I think at least in the federal constitution there is that auction nears clause no there isn't i'm kidding because the because believe it or not the founding fathers thought that to go into a a lot of detail on things that people do every day. We're going to cover that with the ninth amendment in the bill of rights just saying this is not an enumeration of rights. The people retain all kinds of rights that aren't even written down anywhere. They're just what people do. We don't no need to bother by trying to enumerate them all and say that the government either has power over this or the government doesn't have power. We didn't name it. It's retained by the people get that isn't in the constitution specifically allowing the federal the government to do it or banning people from doing it. <hes> it's left with people now. I think treason is the only really named crime time and maybe piracy. I don't even think piracy made it treason so angie of your fostering any ideas of becoming. I mean treasonous here on this show. Well i encourage it but it is just pretty silly so you have to be a most states license auctioneers jack correct but i guess sure i know i know in vermont massachusetts and fact even at the auction somebody says oh. I didn't think you had an auction ears license as i was telling him hey you ought to come down to the auction auctioneers. I didn't think knocks nears license. You don't get licenses doc because the guy i knew i didn't have a driver's license right and we had a conversation but and he was a guy up there at pork faster fork fast food as earlier. I'm like i don't care about no licenses i i don't i don't ask for permission the sheep herder asking the sheep for permission. We don't need those stinking licenses right. It's <hes> it's amazing that people's assumptions some people's assumption is that if you're doing you know x._y._z. Volume you must be approved for that. You know you you braided raid hair for a living my god. I assume that you have a license for braiding hair. This is how insane our country has become and how how insane our people have become well. They don't bat an eye now the barber yeah. He's got his paperwork up there on the wall. Why when when i was in i i would. I've noticed about public. Schooling is it has literally training program people to to to ask for this licensing like when i was actually in high school and i think it was a home class an economics class. I can't remember the class was but they actually had us bring a phone book and as part of a project and and the thing was was like everybody had to pick like something that they were going to do and my particular thing was getting putting a deck on the house like i'm an adult. This is a home economics class right and like you know like where you learn how to like you know when you're thirteen years old. I teach out of write a check and things like that and balance a you know checking you know checkout sure stuff like that and in credits and debits and so the thing that i picked was getting putting a a <hes> a deck on the house and the very first thing that you're supposed to do is look at the the blue pages as c. n. Call a zoning department or building department at building permits and it was the blue pages we're in front of phone books and this was like around around ninety four ninety five or something yeah i'm with you so it was like just just conditioning in programming then it was funny as i at two thousand twelve twelve republican primary in new in manchester new hampshire my father my friend dave cowpaths and i we brought three horses rode horses up and down main street <hes> that that was a couple that was the night before a debate and <hes> manchester. Elm street is just for like a couple miles either direction all media all people. It's republican <hes> debate. New hampshire is a hotbed for politics and so many people ask me. Oh did you get a permit. Oh do you need a permit to ride the horse like actually the horse source has priority on these roads. These rows were four horses long before cars ever came right and people just couldn't wrap their head around. It and i actually made made g. q. Magazine the online edition not to actual print and somebody had sent actually. I think ian freeman has sent it to me. In a <hes> e mail years ago like two two thousand twelve bright this article and g. q. or this guy <hes> and was basically he comes up to me and he's like sort sorta have to get a license. He had like some english british type accident for that horse and i'm like what the hell's wrong with you people. Everybody thinks you need to have asked to sheep for permission and this is where the sheep herders here. This is maybe it's different where you come from and he actually quoted me like word for word he must have had a recording go in the article right and he called us to three riders riders of the ron paul clips night because we were carrying a ron paul evolution signed but every media asked me about a permit from the city or a license and i said did could you ask no we just did it showed up. This is nuts and travel at all awesome but i had i had a guy i had a couple of guys walking around with <hes> ah buckets and snow shovel and a broom sweeping up any horse poop there clean up your mess oh yeah and i'm from oregon and and in small towns we have a a lot of parades and parades always involve horses and everybody knows that that is a hazard yeah. Everybody even cops. Even the cops are coming up. Can i pat. I'm sure that's all they were super friendly. They won cough was like yeah. There's a lot of a lot of people like ron paul. I see especially here in manchester because of the free state project. I didn't even know the free state project. Was you know he was just happy to horse. Who's not happy to peddle horse eight fifty five four fifty free yeah just just this idea so no auctioneers licence to speak of j. and b. Obviously must have some training. Actually actually i heard from people that were up there. That said you did a great job. He did a great job. Nominal that was my first question was like does <hes> you know five t i can't even do it. I can't even fake that. I know how to auctioneers well. The thing is is. I think most people wouldn't really tell whether we're not doing a good job because most people never really been to a <hes> oxygen auction to to a real what i would call real oxygen the livestocks right where there's a lot of excitement. There's a lot of energy especially horse auctions and that's what i grew up going to but if you go to an art auction on cruise i mean just pass out you fall asleep. Oh yeah it's like <hes>. Do we have five dollars five dollars. I have five dollars. Can i get ten dollars and a catalog and it's you know it's loud one hundred one hundred nine hundred one hundred one hundred and i i did little for the freedom role because it was ross oh brick right so like i started. Actually i've just started practicing like after liberty forum during the winter actually practicing my auction chant while driving around listening to youtube videos or like working shop listening to youtube videos of you know to to building an auction chant so yeah it was a lot of fun and i've always i've been blithering my entire. Life have been going to oxygen but my dad's horse-trader so it was great experience for me. 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I did a passport process few months back where i informed the state department via passport application that i was not the fourteenth amendment u._s. citizen. I don't participate in any i._r._s. Stuff and wanted to get a passport but i wanted to get one as basically a new hampshire citizen of the nation of new hampshire not the state of new hampshire and i put i'm not a resident okay this guy christopher gronkowski from destinations freedom dot c._a. Or dot com. I forget what it is. He <hes> and he's been on free. Talk live four anyways <hes> so <hes> one of the things that talks about when he does this class difference between you know united states citizens in a state citizen and also who's required to pay income tax which is united states citizens state happens have an income tax. Actually actually in massachusetts has an income tax in every state that he's pretty much looked into has an income tax. Whoever is required to pay income tax federal income taxes required to pay state income tax massachusetts howdy income tax law because the states are all basically franchise of the district of columbia or the united states after eighteen sixty four goes with ios one theory and <hes> well i mean it was good evidence of it actually and we found it massachusetts there. There was a whole state charter created in eighteen eighty something for commonwealth of massachusetts. It's awfully late. That's when they're on corporators after the civil war okay that's the the the state of new york was incorporated in eighteen eighty eight massachusetts eighteen eighty nine but the word state actually means district district of columbia so but anyway getting back to ah the i._r._s. doesn't tax hobbies but they do tax businesses but we've been operating a business for a couple years in then <hes> judging by the lack of paycheck. I call it a hobby. There you go so that's an interesting and we don't offer legal or or financial advice but this is worth looking into their been a lot of people talking about the fourteenth amendment what it means what it doesn't mean and the fourteenth amendment really was the amendment that took a stab at trying to define what is a citizen because we were dealing with something new in our nation's history at that time i believe created freed slaves. I believe it created a second class of citizens and i don't believe the slaves were freed. They were property tape that was seized by the federal government. They had a new owner correct and then what could happen is anyone else could voluntarily sign up to be a united states citizen and could expect get the benefits of being united states. It is an privileges. This is that social contract. We must have signed well. Actually i like to call it an offer that you can't refuse because that's how it feels because if i offered you something no matter how lucrative or how crazy it was you have the absolute right to to refuse the offer but if you don't know it's an offer and you are spent oh literally from the day you're born to the day you go get a job or get a driver's license usually getting a driver's license or some places have worked for permits like if the kids under eighteen they actually got to go to the town hall get to work and put your social security number and your date of birth and all that you know slave information on there but basically when you turn eighteen eighteen year using this you're you're you're brainwashed to think your united states citizen and what actually makes a united states citizen is the the fact that you you say you are. You're not a united states citizen until you sign some document check off the box united states citizen and then sign that document under the threats of pain threats of penalty of perjury. How many times do people in the course of i guess not all people but at some point most people do signs up saying are you are. Are you a u._s. Citizen so voter registration driver's license check box many times. I am too and the thing that you're actually doing gronkowski gets into to this is not only. Are you claiming the u._s. Citizen now. You're impersonating a u._s. Citizen and under united states code title blah blah when you impersonate a united states citizen the crime is a crime and then also says references the thirteenth amendment to the u._s. constitution which says shelby no slavery really a voluntary service to accept punishment of crime. It's all let's get back into the auctioneering so there was at fork fast pork fest. I'm not sure where it was was <hes> but i know the story is on freaking dot com today talking about this auction for ross all brick and video too and and there is video up there and kind of tells a story but and j you were you were the auctioneer you're running the show as a hobby and during this <hes> numerous items my store donated a fifty dollar gift card to be auctioned off so just raise money for for ross's legal fees. That's what's that was the intent but somebody donated supplement to be auctioned kind of at the last minute that surprised a few people what was that two eight ounce containers of cannabis. Some marijuana got auctioned off on private property at might add and this was included in the auction. What a great way to raise some cash. I'm actually i got a little <hes> reach out today. A friend of mine watch video and he goes to all these all these. I can't festivals in maine right and he was like we should do an auction. Have we just have a straight up cannabis auction one of these festivals. Ah do it perfect so this. This came up and you put it up there and you did your auctioneer. Did your chance you did your your. What do you call or roll well. They call like an engineer's role but yeah you can share your role role in the words into the next word goal of to get as much money for something something as you can and that's good when things are going to good causes like free ross over at a guy who literally went to jail for running a website you may you have heard about murder-for-hire. None of that stuff was proven and none of it was even included in the charges means. It probably didn't happen fifty five four fifty free. This is free talk live. 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It's chris jay and angie. Normally it's not me normally it's mark mark would be in this chair and you guys would be wrapping with him but no marks in south korea ahead to double check that it is south korea not north korea correct. I guess i don't know what i read now. It's korea korea korea. I know he <hes> posted a picture on twitter of some korean frosty. He'd drink a don't know of that was alcoholic or non alcoholic. Let's hope it was. Let's hope it wa uh it looked hasty but as someone who has been i have fallen for things from from foreign countries that sure look tasty and they may have been less than tasty but that's neither here nor there we are talking about an auction shen that took place at pork festival during pork vessel on private property and they were having an auction to raise money for raw russell brick who was the founder of the silk road and he is a you know he didn't kill anyone <unk>. I seriously doubt the charges that he ever offered murder for hire. That seemed pretty much made up <hes> what he did was allowed people to place things for sale and had an escrow service so that if you know it it kind of protected the buyer and the seller now he sold drugs on there. Why why did everybody freak out my god. You can't buy drugs online. What how the police gonna find this anybody could buy it could be shipped right to your house. Here's what what it did. It had a rating system to just like amazon. You know if you buy a pair of socks and those socks sock. You're going to rate those socks low. Hello and that company's gonna lose business because they've got low ratings and they can't get it the idea that you could rate an interaction the action with your drug dealer allowed the best drug dealers were selling good pure products to give people actually actually what they were paying for got high ratings. They got increased sales now. This is a good thing the idea that marketplace's we we in the liberty community tend to think that we don't need government. We can have markets regulate themselves. <hes> you look at you l. listings that are on most. I electron devices. That's that's a voluntary program but if you don't have a u. l. listing on your on your blender and it's sitting right there next ax to a bunch of them that do people are probably going to think twice actually melted an extension cord. The other day with a angle grinder was doing some metal fabrication yup yep and melted writer plugged into the grinder now the coordinate angle grinder melt. It all looked fine. It just actually was the thing quit work smokin right. This is some extension core is so we're gonna pile. Extension cords not sarah. Lets me too and the kid that was with music. I wonder if that one's u._l. Listed he looked all over extension cord and couldn't find listing <hes> underwriters laboratory so they <hes> for a fee will test your product whatever it happens to be whether extension quarter a blender or usually salihi electric devices electronic devices and if they find that it's safin well-built. They'll put their seal of approval on it. Okay that makes sense it does and it. It also makes sense that if you are buying drugs you can buy them one of two ways. Let's say you bought off the silk road and it's got really high ratings that tells you a lot of people looked at it. Tried it and found it was what it's what it says it was and then you get a story of some kid who bought a a you know a ten bucks worth of heroin from some street dealer an o._d. Because it wasn't what he thought it was because it was one percent heroin in ninety nine percent rat poison or it was a fifty percent hera one in fifty percent fat and all and it was completely different aren't in strength and these are these are things that really really happen. I'm not you know a lot of people will will come out and say well. That kids should have been doing heroin. I i agree with you. I'd never taught my kids to do heroin but people people do heroin and people are addicted to opiates. You know people like rush. Limbaugh who is famously addicted to opiates <hes> fortunately he had the money to be able to shop all the pill mills and he didn't have to go to the black market to get what he needed but a lot of people we found out after everything came out with you know when the opioid problem first bloomed we found out actually i should say people that suddenly found themselves addicted found out that if your prescription runs out and you can't get did it anywhere else. Legally there is an alternative and the alternative is heroin and a lot of them turned to that and now you know we have a much bigger problem <hes> in an unregulated market <hes> it's not that it's unregulated on a highly regulated yeah. It is highly regulated. It's not die for <hes> you know. <hes> engaging in heroin trafficking activities just like ron paul said more people have died from the war on drugs than the actual drugs and that's absolutely true same alcohol was illegal the alcohol prohibition you see created war zones in ghettos and cities all over the united states and all those deaths over trafficking alcohol stopped alcohol became legalized. Yeah it pretty much birth. The power of the mafia the mafia really didn't have much to do until we tried to make alcohol illegal and that gave them something highly profitable to do and they could do it everywhere you know who single-handedly made alcohol illegal and why well i know a a lot of people had hands in it but go ahead the number one. <hes> anti-alcohol guy was a guy who had to patent on petroleum nameless rockefeller and if you <hes> there's a book called called <hes> alcohol can be a gas that was i think <hes> i addition was in the late eighties and he he talks about the whole history of alcohol pro of alcohol and alcohol prohibition will henry ford made the model t for to run an alcohol so farmers could still their own alcohol <hes> and if you actually still alcohol from corn what you have leftover that corn mash is a much much higher quality cattle and livestock feed than actual corn and miss raw form because you with alcohol you extract all the starch out of it so alcohol can be a gas. I think david bloom the guy's name who wrote it and he talks about how <hes> rockefeller lobbied attempts four million dollars to make alcohol illegal so he could have literally the market and u._s. Standard oil became came this massive <hes> you know corporation ended up getting busted up until like today like amoco exxon mobil okay. Can i forget what else else there was. Undoubtedly money came in that wanted to do but the the history of prohibition against alcohol goes back since before the civil war oh there were groups that were strongly opposed of this housewives housewives who were tired of their husband than going out and getting drunk and coming home smelling like lilacs. I wonder what men used for well that will limit women's perfumes back then dan but that or you know getting smacked around by their husband too but prohibition was it was huge. Dow what you're talking talking about may have been the money that funded them and let's think about what we had to do like right. Now we just ride along say marijuana is illegal to federal federal level <hes> there i said it so it's done back then and i'm only talking about the nineteen. <hes> nineteen twenties nineteen thirty's nineteen eighteen tens. I guess i'd have to look at we literally had to amend the constitution to give the federal government the power or to say alcohol's illegal literally three quarters of the states had to ratify this statement and now now look at all the things that are pro prohibited just because they say it is we had to we had to change the constitution to make alcohol illegal eagle and we had to change it again to make it not illegal because we realized how stupid an idea that was eight fifty five four fifty free eh. This is free talk live fellow patriots. My name is todd savage founder a black rifle real estate dot com like you. I i was a prisoner of the outlet sanctuary state until one day. I chose to leave my family to freedom today. 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I was just calling the first time caller <hes>. It seems like you guys have a well off born going on the dizziness studio and i was like i got like a kind of down there now <hes> you guys were talking about some political views about like korea earlier earlier. I heard that correctly. We've we've got a co host twos in south korea. I was jokingly was going to north korea area but if you want to talk about north korea you can talk about anything on free. Talk live well. I well actually it's going to be similar to what you're talking about. Because if i thought you guys were talking about like a political crisis going i'm up. I have a tendency to do that but anyway so i wanna talk about <hes> the group in other organizations that <hes> setup rides in one oh okay so what goes moves through their mind day to day mazen's unlike why what are they fighting for exactly because i tried looking them up and for some reason it's like i don't know what they're curly. What what did they turn up to a couple of antifa guys at the trump rally actually did you had a very high. I love from what i all. I can glean from them as they are against trump they see trump as an example of fascism in <hes> in the world and antifa is sort of antifascism. So what did you find out so they were like in this little caged in area at the trump rally manchester last last thursday and i went down here to to talk about pardoning free ross wanna get trump attention about twenty-five us went down there for that anyway in the the couple of guys like antifa guys. They were talking about how <hes> socialism is actually what they were talking about. How billionaires are the enemy and i'm like no no guys. A federal reserve is the enemy you gotta understand that these billionaires wouldn't exist without the policies of the federal reserve so then accomplished and what i noticed there was another guy where a big fat doc. I had a green democrat on it was like a handful of these deals like democrat party needs green shirts and they were walking around the free speech zone and it's one guy kept on interrupting the conversation chinese or get out of there or keep it. <hes> you know rolling so their their thing was billionaires. Bad capitalism is bad and we need socialism. Mm-hmm and socialism is where the government controls the means of production is what the guy told me. That's what we need. I go so you want trump. Who you hate to control the means of production you want congress to control the means of production does congress listen to you congress's too big corporations and lobbyists dazzles going on. I am anonymous. I wanna see the government had can have no power control of anything whatsoever bill. Where do you stand. I mean we a lot of callers. Okay so give to be on the on side for me. I'm actually a neutral zone where it comes between good and bad for this country and like i can understand yeah because like federal enemy billionaires armed because it's like it's like what footprint jeff as we all know who got to see <hes> emina correct do we do. We knew him as a people at the enemy. The guy who made it possible for me need to get all my stuff. I order on wednesday every week and that's alive. I helped me. I save money uh in my small business by buying my stuff through amazon versus buying at unfortunately at local businesses and i run business so i i look for advantages so yeah. I be's does it exactly and easy. I agree off your causes. I'm sorry jay okay jay. Okay you know you you make about point. You really really do i. I like where you're coming from. How the millionaires are not enemy. The federal is so for meat understand it. It's like why do we argued the billionaires by they are enemy. Mike why don't we do that. The ideas of socialism really are about breaking people pull up into different classes and controlled opposition pitting one class against each other. You might have a billion dollars dude. I i hope you do and and <hes> that doesn't make you an eye enemy. You may be broke. <hes> and that doesn't make us enemies. My hope is that you can leave. Save your life the way you want to lead your life as long as you're not messing with anybody else's rights when you start to infringe on people's rights. That's that's a problem for me. I don't think that should happen exactly exactly because it's like it's like we all want to win the lottery one day we all want that millions upon millions of dollars. We all do and i can guarantee it. It's just what what what you would be asking for like. What do we do with that. A million dollars like we just became rizzo. He wanted wanted to either become knights or becoming greedy but yet you know it's just this is just how things and for congress to do so working with corporations i for my understanding is like they are the ones making more and more money than the average american people that correct well they-they're okay they make the money <hes> big corporations do make lots and lots of money some of them produce something of value and if they can't make it in the free market. There's always a politician to buy to you. Make some law that makes it a requirement or eliminate their competition. That's that's crony capitalism and that is not the free market capitalism. I see it as when people get wealthy the. Enough and used their power to pay politicians to pass laws that are in their favor an another element of this another element of this as you've got to understand what a federal reserve really is unfair to all of us. Regular folks is the federal served creates money essentially out of thin air and gives it away at different interest rate and the first people in line for this money are the major corporations whether it be general motors archer midland daniels google a company called black rock. They are the largest property management firm in the world and they are buying up all all of the major urban areas all over the world and increasing the rent but in in europe there are getting money at a negative interest rate to do this with here in the u._s. They're you're getting it for two point for twenty five basis points. That's all they're getting for a quarter percent interest. They're getting millions of billions of dollars to go just by city blocks and jack up the bill and the negative interest rates. They are not going to actually actually do that. They will charge now. They will pay people to take a loan with them. They won't pay people they will pay major massive corporations dan dan to do that and then there are guys like us and i don't have any credit cards with people have credit cards dislike some places credit cards twenty three percent some places limited to eighteen eighteen but still has crazy most and it's not going to be for consumers but for governor of for governments and for large corporations yes interest rates are going and negative and what that means is that means the money you hold in your bank account is gonna be taken from every month when negative interest israeli start happening but the but and this is where bitcoin is going to save us and that's why we talk about crypto currencies because it still makes sense the financial santeuil system doesn't really make any sense but let's get back to this auction for justice action was free ross us dot com or dot org actually ross dot com or hash tag free russ. Check it out. 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I'm eric take it off the trump administration weekends banking regulations and events this weekend marks the four hundredth anniversary of slavery in the united states up first today president trump signals. He's looking at possible. Tax cuts amid had signs the u._s. Economy could be slowing down while speaking with reporters on tuesday trump indicated a temporary payroll tax cut is one action his his administration could have in the works. This comes after several senior white house officials denied to the washington post. They were discussing such a move trump and other members of his administration have been quick to point out that the economy still is booming and unemployment is at a fifty year low however economic indicators showed trump's prolonged along to trade war with china is adding to fears about where the economy is heading economist also say tax cuts would only provide temporary impact but another move move by the trump administration is fueling anxiety as well consumer groups are wanting that new financial rules will make recession more likely after the trump administration moved move to dramatically weaken banking regulations. Suzanne potter explains on tuesday. Federal regulators approved major changes to the volcker rule. Carter dougherty with americans americans for financial reform says the rule was put in place after the two thousand eight financial crisis. The golden rule was to ensure that banks. If they gambled they did it with their own the money that they did not leave taxpayers on the hook or they did not create instability in the financial system. The volcker rule prevents banks from using money to make bets on market outcomes uh-huh trades that are backed with tax payer money by the f._d._i._c. federal regulators appointed by president trump argued that changes will give banks greater flexibility events marking the four hundredth anniversary of the birth of slavery in the united states will take place in virginia this weekend on august twenty third sixteen nineteen. The first ship ship bearing enslaved africans arrived at point comfort now fort monroe in virginia many consider the moment dr. part of history. That's shaped this country forever forever. Kathy spangler executive director of the weekends activities says the events are designed to help us confront the rule slavery has had in our country reported a great democracy and we also forged scorch on the earth in slavery and to be able to be open about that and have conversation around it and not be separated you buy it is what we hope for this event and the ongoing conversations it will forge ceremonies honoring african americans who lost their lives to slavery. We'll kick off friday morning at fort monroe. All activities are free and open to the public. This is diane bernard. Reporting this is p. N. s. reproductive and civil rights organizations are hoping to strike a final blow against ohio so-called heartbeat bill. We get the story from mary. Sherman senate bill twenty three vans abortions. If a fetal arpey is detected which typically is around six weeks of pregnancy. The law was temporarily blocked from going into effect on july third pending the outcome of a legal challenge on tuesday. A motion was filed asking for a permanent injunction to prevent the banned from taking effective future. Jennifer branches counsel for the the plaintiffs. The law has been clear in this country that a band this early in pregnancy prior to viability is never been allowed so so the judge should follow the law that already exists and declare the statute unconstitutional fifty percent of ohio voters said the opposed a heartbeat bill and a recent thank quinnipiac university poll and sixty one percent said they agreed with the roe versus wade decision that affirmed access to safe and legal abortion is a constitutional right north carolina's marine fisheries commission is expected to vote thursday on a proposal that would play certain conditions on shrimp trawling in order to help juvenile fish in arctic ocean the new rules would allow the state to regulate the times when shrimp could be harvested managed the coastal areas open to shrimping and limit the size of shrimp nets mets tim guests quickey with the north carolina wildlife federation says destructive fishing practices have harmed the health of the state's fish populations on average for every every pound of shrimp harvested. There's an additional four pounds offense fish harvested in wasted supporters of the proposal say putting caps happen on shrimp trawling would set commercial and recreational fisheries on the road to recovery by reducing juvenile fish desks and giving them the opportunity to spawn at at least once before being harvested nadia ramlogan reporting a new poll shows that utah women ranked last among the fifty states for the amount of money. They make compared command data from a study by y._m._c._a. Utah and the institute for women's policy research found the so-called wage gap for utah women with fulltime jobs was just sixty st eight point nine percent of what similarly employed men make ten percent lower than the national average aaron jemison y._m._c._a. Utah cites a variety of cultural policy-based reasons for utah women to fallen so far behind not until we start to look at what are some of those gender norms going on in their home life but then also how do we make workplaces workplaces more family friendly so that both men and women can take care of those needs will really start to see that gap clothing and that's really where our policy focuses jonasson who says the study finds that women often bear much of the caretaking burden and families and that can have a major effect on what jobs they take on. They keep them and that was mark. Richardson should san with our final story. I'm eric tagged off for public news service. We are member and listener supported and online at public new service dot o._r._g. Evening three hundred and sixty five days a year now. There's a couple of exceptions. Sometimes we're away at conferences and stuff like that but ninety ninety nine percent of the time if you tune in you're gonna get a live talk radio with a focus on liberty. That's a focus okay. She don't see often. You see democrats talking about how bad republicans are and you have republicans talking about how bad democrats are. I usually agree with republicans on how bad democrats are usually agree with democrats on how bad republicans are exactly early. We're we're pretty much. Libertarian talk show. You're gonna get some ideas that you may not of heard before our in studio. It's myself chris. It's j. angie and we're gonna kick things off in our number two with actually i think some good news out these are words. I never thought i'd say we're gonna kick the hour number two off with some good news out of california. Uh i just never imagined i would ever say that no occasionally there have been good things that happened in california not enough off to counter all the bad things that have happened to the people of california but this comes to us from the daily beast california now has one of the the strictest use of force laws in the u._s. Now what's a use of force law. Those are laws that put limitations limitations on police or put regulations around them using force against regular people california's had some doesn't exist already. Never what's that place. That's incident doesn't exist already laws that police you know can't be using excessive force on people and stuff like that. They do they list. They're all sorts of laws but there's also all all sorts of exception. Oh i fear for my life. Exactly what shot the pug california governor gavin newsom on monday signed into the law what will arguably become the nation's strictest standard for police use of lethal force the new law known as stefan clark's law after after the unarmed black man who was killed by police in the state capital sacramento last year will usher in significant changes for police procedures seizures when it takes effect on january first twenty twenty in the new year california police will no longer be allowed eh to shoot a fleeing suspect unless they pose an immediate danger now. Let's think about that. They were there were not regulations that stopped california police from shooting fleeing suspects suspects before this law goes into effect now police always have to have they have to justify the shooting they they have to say like you said jay. I feared for my life. Another standard was he was escaping he he was getting away. He may continue to do harm. This is specific to cases where the where the suspect is fleeing california police will no longer be allowed to shoot at fleeing suspects unless they pose an immediate danger a long overdue update that dates all the way back to eighteen seventy two new language in the law also stipulates that law enforcement can only use deadly force when quote necessary on quote as opposed to the current wording of when it is reasonable unquote. I wonder how the law defines necessary as it applies to this particular statute you and how are they going to determine if they pose an immediate danger what someone running and they have their back to you maybe there you're scared of them because it's dark. I think it's going to be very difficult bolt for them not to be an if there are standards and laws in place. This is going to open up police to lawsuits now. We gotta look at california warning. This is where whole lot of people going back to rodney king when people have been disgusted by the police saying well. I feared for my life therefore i had to shoot that man running away from me in the back under this. It seems like that would no longer be easy i didn't i it was a reasonable and it was reasonable for me to shoot him because he was running. No now it has to be necessary pepsi cameras when everyone's phones getting these cops busted absolutely another critical another crucial alteration will show. It's a facts in the courtroom under the new law prosecutors will now be able to take into account the actions of the officers and victim leading up up to the fatal incident replacing current rules that only allow prosecutors to consider the seconds surrounding the use of legal for lethal force force so i find that kind of interesting to the hunter california law when dealing with this <music> incident in an incidence of shooting they can only discuss like a few seconds before and and that doesn't tell the whole story so is this police union money being diverted to the pension programs for the cops now so the cop stop quitting their jobs because i could imagine the police union would be hardcore anti law or one or the other. I suspect they are anti anti this is going to cause more going to cause more lawsuits against law enforcement and more lawsuits against cities and states. Excuse me this cities in the state of california and there's a tremendous amount already the thing is you don't hear about them because everybody has to sign a nondisclosure statement to get that money right have they want money told the only way to get it is to settle and that's why these things get buried often broadening the timeline could also could allow prosecutors to view such cases with greater context context supporters believed the expansion will also encourage departments to further emphasize deescalation practices assemblywoman shirley weber grabber democrat who authored the bill called it quote an aggressive effort to retrain our officers and change the culture of police i for one all for anything that attempts to change the culture of police. It has become a standing standing army in this country. If you go back thirty forty fifty years police were more uh of the mayberry type and now they looked like they walked off walked off a troop carrier influenza. Eh if there's anything serious that happens now it involves armored troops who are armed with military agreed weapons. I'm not saying they're they're driving swat vehicles. They have flashbang grenades. They have all this gear ear and if you have the gear you want to use the gear and i'm it's the militarization of police forces as just ramped up the violence not against police but ramped up the violence against citizens. I noticed that the trump rally that there was these guys all had <hes> military gear dear all body armor they had <hes> basically tactical swat type stuff they had <hes> appeared to be like air fifteen's. I'm not exactly sure what the rifles were. Ask them and there was also on top of the radisson doubletree manchester two snipers at least just hanging out up there and there was a couple of spots at one time. I saw four guys up there and you know just everywhere around manchester. There was cops just ready for straight up combat so i don't doubt the secret service they were there in heavy heavy force secret service or are actually a little bit harder to detect because they don't usually run around around looking like they're armed to the teeth. I detected one and i asked him about all pissed off. Exactly the ones that are all armed to the teeth are new the hampshire's own police forces manchester police <hes> right here in a bucolic new hampshire. Why are policemen looking luck troops. I fifty five four hundred fifty free this talk. I am giving away one hundred dollars in bitcoin cash on september twenty nineteen and i'm not giving it away because i like giving away way money quite the contrary. It's because i need a favor. Please go to demo dot freetalklive dot com and fill out the survey. There's thoroughly as you like. 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That's freedom freedoms with an s._p. Knicks dot com freedoms phoenix dot dot com at the top of freedoms phoenix dot com right now it says matrix four officially ago with keanu reeves carrie ann moss and lana wachowski. I didn't know there was going to be a matrix for that's awesome and i were talking about that just before the show yeah yeah because i pulled up to the studio plane wakeup by rage against the machine was one of the songs in the original matrix. I'm i'm kind of jazzed about it. I love the first matrix movie i to me. It was is revolutionary. There were things were ideas that were presented. <hes> that had a liberty spin on them. <hes> that we had never been an presented with in a super popular film and a lot of a lot of the techniques used in the film were kind up groundbreaking at the time and then then phoenix <hes> let me see matrix revolutions and matrix reloaded came out after that and i found both of the sequels kind of confusing the guy that taught me blacksmith and one of the guys taught me blacksmith thing actually made a lot of vast swords for keanu reeves stunt man whose name is brent state lousy. They had therefore months in massachusetts a town just south of me right. I grew up in palmer so <hes> but this guy will like suspended from school because he would use in high school he would crawl down a gutter for flights <hes> like literally like shimmy down the gutter on the outside of the building at the end of school and leave school and that was always like a big thing in town this guy just like you know i think actually expelled from high school over just like crazy stuff like being amateur amateur stuntman yeah but the matrix forty caught up people up when i was in high school. I came out it. Did a lot of my friends will like wow you know stuff. You've been talking about. I didn't movie and i kind of knew the line because my buddies are telling me about they went and saw this movie yeah and you know just upon you're being controlled by the people who we're really in control. You go about your daily job. You don't know what's really going on beneath. Do you wanna take the red pill or the blue pill. Do you want to stay stay right where you are just happy or do you want to see how far down the rabbit hole goes <hes> there. Those were a lot of <hes>. I thought innovative ideas to throw out in a movie. It was one of those things that i'd bread about bread a lot of <hes> libertarian novels olsen and stories and things like that but it was the first time a lot of those things actually made it onto the big screen which i thought was kind of interesting dan kind of innovative and so i i still see keanu reeves in a lot of stuff. I mean john wick that. That was a blockbuster jackie. Excuse me angie shaking her head. You don't remember do you didn't watch john wick i. I don't think i watch either either action. Yeah those are probably the most violent possible movies you could ever watch. I did watch the matrix but but added knowledge any of the sequels yeah that was i think a good time to quit. I was happy the second ones were just trying to explain every possible question you could've ever had about the matrix and i think they just <hes> succeeded in making it more complex. The wakowski <music> is the skis as they are now known <hes> it used to be the wakowski brothers and i won and then the other transitioned and <hes> they're both a trans ladies now and they are just known as the was what caskey's they're going to be at the helm helm for this new. I guess you call it a reboot sequel. I don't know how they're how they're gonna play it. <hes> they've got a lot of the original i think the original director director is coming back for <hes> both keanu reeves and carryanne moss who were the stars of the first one the all one i haven't heard about was laurence fishburne. He played morpheus okay and but he had some good lines some good liberty lines at lausanne yeah in the second one in ernie handcock likes to use a lot of morpheus exactly exactly what i was saying freedoms phoenix. That's freedom's with the nest being dot com. His bumper music includes a short little short little speech from morpheus and i think that was in and matrix reloaded. That's where where he did that but i hear it just about every morning because i have a year list. Declare declare your independence independence with ernie. Hancock is on l. dot f._m. Feed from nine to noon time every day and then it's on after this show this morning show is on after this show <hes> during the week <hes> if he listed on dot f._m. Yeah it's an earnings a great guy. I got a chance to talk to him for the first time at four fest. I've listened to him for five six years he used to be i told them i use my morning drive every day on the way to work at a phone through my employer that had unlimited internet so heck yeah every morning was declare your independence and this a lot out of respect for him as a broadcaster and he's got. He knows he knows where we should be going. Oh yeah and sixty two miles above the grid pirateswithoutborders stuff eight fifty five four fifty three. We've got open phones. I'd love to hear from you eight five five four or five zero three seven three three. So what do you think you think this new matrix movie is going to. It's going to blow up visit gonna fizzle. I think it will blow up personally just because of keanu reeves and the hype behind it. I think that it will do well at the box office. I probably won't go see. It probably won't see it when it comes out but i mean i'm sure i'll hear about it. I wonder how much money is going to be injected into this because there's a lot of ernie talk about this with some movie. I can't remember i just trying to think what it is his and it was basically about like one of these military incidents in the middle east somewhere. There was a movie that was produced a few years ago and c._i._a. Step dennis's. Hey you're not going to <hes> put like like you know they offer them funding. They basically have just bothered him funding somehow. I can't imagine how the c._i._a. Would benefit from a front company. You know basically scripted part of this movie i he was talking about this past week. What do you think is the matrix. Gonna blow up is going to be all all that. I don't know <hes> but i'd love to talk about whatever you're interested in eight fifty five four fifty. This is free talk live. Do you have a crypto wealth advisor or coach it so as you're crypto currency adviser have been investing in technology stocks knox for over twenty years. 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I got a story here because the police have to get involved to keep us safe. That's always what what we need the police to do to keep us safe. We need laws to keep us safe. And have you ever heard a hard seltzer. What's the big brand out there claws. Have you ever seen clause hard celts but i've heard of hard seltzer right. It's the biggest latest thing in alcoholic beverages. I guess that's the biggest trend going when right now. Dan burley boring. I like really good beers and that's it. I like good wines to. I'm not much of a hard liquor drink. I'm more of a liquor drinker coconut but now it's tequila patrolling the problem is all the american beer and wine is so loaded with fate because the roundup they spray on all the we tell me this and all uh-huh wineries and everything's yeah don't ruin my good beers out solid headline something about the arsenic and a lot of wine that they re recall in some possible possible. I'm not familiar with that story but police have decided that they have to remind everyone that hard seltzer drinkers. I have to remind them that. Quote laws still do apply. I wanna walk around with seltzer can drink and and seltzer public just come. Her asked me about it though the <hes> really like. Is that alcoholic. Oh can you smell the vodka within open container that right yeah. That's the whole thing i mean. Seltzer is a big thing here in the show is being broadcast from keene new hampshire. I'm going to say in in new england. Oakland seltzer is a bigger thing here than almost anywhere like i go to the grocery store and there's a section at least as big as coke pepsi that sell in polar polar <hes> polar seltzer. I mean kansas. It's everywhere. I never really got into it. It tastes like sparkly stuff. That doesn't have quite enough flavor. Well there right 'cause. I'm used to worcester. Massachusetts is that right well it says on a can and when i was living in manchester would drive through worcester two or three times a week to go. Wow was working for a guy in western mass and you drive right by several several acres of a big polar seltzer polar soda campus seed hundreds of semi trailers and all the carbonated silo tower things things and and correct me if i'm wrong. They have thirty seven billion different flavors so i don't holder does every time i just blows my mind but the raspberry comes from the the <hes> anal gland of a beaver. I believe good to know that sounds yummy and for those of you who are looking for something that came out of the anal gland of a beaver uh-huh jerry seltzer water all probably better than the alternative all raspberry flavor that is quote natural flavors is from this lake beaver anal gland that natural flavors can be like i know one of like any couple thousand ingredients they are they're pretty discussing and when they when when you see it on the label oh natural flavors it must be yummy. It must be good you find out how they arrive at that flavor and it's not always what do you think it is <hes> but the police are going nuts because somebody posted something on social media. Oh my god it might seem <music> office but a wisconsin police department felt the need to remind citizens that laws still apply when you're drinking even if it's white cloth hard seltzer. I'm glad <hes> you policeman in wisconsin felt felt that it was better to spend your time on this particular campaign then doing something like <hes>. I don't read the kits ranuch rape kits. That's so good we could process your backlog or rape kits. You could close out some missing children as yes. I'm sure there's a few missing children's cases in wisconsin based on a whole lot jeffrey jeffrey epstein stuff and all this thing going on with the pedophile elite. There's there's probably a an incentive to not really look to hardly at missing children. <hes> you know but cops aren't really there. You know actual to serve to protect the people they serve and protect the state and nor do they have any obligation to protect you. That is been determined by the u._s. Supreme court numerous times. They have no obligation to keep people safe in response to a popular social media term. The kenosha police department in wisconsin took to facebook facebook to remind citizens about the truth while some people like to say quote ain't no laws when you're drinking clause unquote load the kenosha police department disagrees. The police department took to facebook to share a message with their followers quote recently recently. We have heard the saying going around. Quote ain't no laws when you're drinking clause quote. We're here to remind you that even even when you're drinking white claws laws still do apply remember drink responsibly and never drink and drive dr. I agree. I disagree with laws still apply first off. I don't think there's any laws that say anything about this hard cider. Yeah i might be a statute of code or regulation which are not laws now states most states. All states have fixed some age of consent age. Oh alcohol consumption it which is some statutory thing right doesn't apply to me that's fine but for a lot of people they do see that oh the drinking ages ages twenty one the drinking ages whatever happens to be in that's the law they follow because they know what's going to happen if they don't follow that particular. They really follow that law well. When i was eighteen i can say no. When i was seventeen i can say no when i was sixteen. I can say hell no. I never followed any underage drinking laws. They did not have the desired effect. What they did was they made alcohol seem cool. Desirable desires some. I can do that only grownups i can do that. So what did we do. Every weekend found a way to get <music> alcohol and that's what goes down today. Now countries like germany for example that have much less much. It's lower regulations when it comes to underage drinking. You know it. You know if you're old enough to see over the bar. You can have a beer and i don't know what germany is right now but it's always been more permissive when it's more permissive kids find out at a younger age that there's not at that much that you're really missing. My little sister was that just just turned sixteen and she had went to germany for a semester of school foreign exchange deal right and she's out in colorado and she came home. I hated drinking any alcohol <hes>. She's like well she goes. I got like eight ounce glass of wine with dinner. Every night and we went out to eat. I asked him if i could order a beer and they're like sure and they brought her a big mugabe or she says i couldn't even finish it off and <hes> and the only thing is there's no glysophate german beer and stuff not allowed in germany that roundup so according to whatever random website. I just pulled up minors sixteen years of age. Jan older may drink under still alcoholic beverages such as wine and beer without companyman and <hes> once they hit eighteen then you can drink liquor distilled spirits in germany. So where is this rampant teenage use of alcohol all in germany. It isn't rampant. My middle sister said it just wasn't a big thing because it wasn't a big thing as big deal and there was parties every weekend. We're you just like wh where i grew up in western master was bari's woods keggers into woods and somebody always got kegs and somebody sold cups for five dollars a piece and you know india. There was big parties everywhere all the time. That's the yeah i and but the thing is i'm sure kids probably got tired of that. It's like how do i really want to go to another party. 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You're tuned to the newest episode of free talk. Live live presented by by visit us online at freetalklive dot com. This is free talk live eight hundred fifty five four fifty free. That's free as in free talk. Talk live eight fifty five four five zero three seven three three. That's our toll free number. That's the number are you can call to get on the air. What are you gonna talk about. I don't now you talk about what you wanna. Talk about. Don't worry about what we're talking about. We're talking about the police and wisconsin. Just remind in everybody that if you're drinking clause there are still laws ause so don't forget that we have laws in wisconsin ain't no laws when you drink and clause has been a a scene on social media but the kenosha police department felt that they just had to weigh in they had to bring this up and remind people that there are still laws. Have you ever <hes> been so drunk that you forgot that there are this these this thing called the state eight that there are policemen out there that are going to actively look for you that are likely going to violate your protected rights according to the constitution you you ever forget that they are out there. I have forgotten that they are out there. Have you tell me about because you're having a good time. The last thing you think about us some police lisa officers killed i don't do that. That's a good point. I'm afraid of home. I generally make made the point at large gatherings and parties probably with the exception caption of pork fast and liberty forum <hes> not to drink because i want to be the guy that deals with the cops right because i feel like kyw can send them away the most efficient way possible and if the spokesman per se or a guy who volunteers go deal to cops it doesn't smell like he's been drinking <hes> that helps at throws them off completely and <hes> and then especially when i'm you know when i first thing tom as you know we re each require fifty thousand dollars an hour to carry orders from police and we will be filing claims with <hes> risk management division of whatever city you're in or state or whatever it is this chase him them off leave. Several times told me that they need a need a warrant <hes> that i that i will be investigating and making sure they have complied with the law that that they have signed sworn oath of office but if you're drunk. Have you been drinking. I never not driving. I've been driving and not you but anybody if you've been drinking and a cop comes up to you and he wants to know who you are you you gotta gotta. Show him your license right. Not if you don't have one up all all new can of worms and more to the point. I was being facetious there most of the time most states have laws that do require you to provide proof of identification advocation when you're driving. Some states have requirements for proof of identification. When you're walking down the street read some states do some states and new hampshire isn't the only state like this that do not require you to show who oh you are if you're not operating a motor vehicle and you should look into the state laws of your state and find out when exactly do i have to show cops identification. When exactly do i have to identify myself to police and you're gonna find out that it. The answer may not be what you always thought. It was first of all i i advise people not know what the law is. You're going to break it. That's that's fine. I think you should have evidence whether the law applies simply right the state attorney general's office a letter actually write them a public records request. If in new <unk> hampshire it's called the ninety three action massachusetts to four sixty action but a public records request asking them for the evidence that they rely on the new hampshire code and constitution apply life absolutely to certify if it does not exist these document does not exist and what happens is. They ignore you i don't. I don't doubt that they they they will. They will ignore you every time <hes> for the average listener on the show they may not want to go into all that at least google what you're laws are and and then do a little bit more leg j. recommends why not why not ask them to show you where this law is and if they can't provide hide it that tells us something doesn't it mark stevens dot net he does a saturday show is on l. every saturday afternoon from four to seven and mark stevens if you just google mark stevens and plead guilty the guy's really good at this kind of stuff. Where's the evidence that the code and constitutional apply to me any anybody who can like you know get was website. I feel competent enough to take an hour and just study information or walk in any courtroom and do this practice it. I want your friends. Where's the evidence just ask questions. Don't make any statements. Where's the evidence. I need to have the evidence. If you have evidence that the uh coating constitution apply to me that i'm willing to plead guilty and save everybody time so other than that. What are some other things you can do. If you're confronted by the please shut up. You can't shut out you have the right to remain silent. That's part of the maranda decision and you don't have to talk to them. You certainly don't have to say anything that incriminate you. If a cop as you well you how much ads drink just like one or two. Don't answer that don't answer anything. You don't answer anything. That's the best advice. The police are not not your friends. They're not there to make sure year night ends great in a more. They try to be your buddy. I'm here to help you out. I'm going to help you through this. I've had cops telling me stuff before. Oh sure the more. They're trying to be your buddy. The harder you're getting screwed as their radar should be going up and up and up when they tell you this. That's his bent to disarm you. Another thing that the supreme court has found that it is perfectly legal hand acceptable optimal so says the supreme court for police to lie to you. They absolutely can lie to you. The police know this and they can dan in the pursuit of finding out the truth there truth about a crime or a crime that may have been committed can lie to make you safe things that you might not have otherwise said to them so the best advice is know your rights. Don't tell them anything. Thank beyond what you're legally required to and if it's if it's a big deal let it go to court court. Don't don't just immediately. Take the plea deal if you can afford not to take the plea deal now. The problem is is that they offer these plea deals <hes> after you've been charged with nineteen different counts of whatever it is they will stack the charges against you. They will make the plea deal so attractive. If i just plead guilty to this one little misdemeanor i can worry about all these fifty other misdemeanors. They charged me with. If i only plead guilty to this one belony they won't charge me with the other fifty felonies. They've charged me with. I got two points of clarification. I in massachusetts uses the massachusetts state. Police academy actually trains police officers in lying to suspects to get them the flip on other suspects or to get them to even confess on crimes. They'll separate to guy's. Your buddy told me that this contraband is yours yours and then they tell the other guy hey. Your buddy told me the same exact thing. The second point is as you were talking about the lasting you were bringing up their chris <hes> deals when you just talking with someone on facebook about this today when you they do a plea deal you take the plea deal and what happens. Is you become a revenue target when they know that you you will take a plea deal. Even if it's just a continuous without a finding and the fee is waived you become a target when you stand against these guys when you fight him tooth and nail when you appear in court like what's happening here in new hampshire is there's a cop in grafton new hampshire who was reported saying i will not right tickets or pull people over with montana plates because i know i'm going to court because there's so many free staters run a montana plates and in new hampshire and they just don't want aggravation because it's not low hanging fruit once they realize you're an easy harvest for revenue your now a target and when they run your plate late and they see that you've been found guilty that you've been found responsible that there was a plea deal. Your stuff shows up. It probably gives you a credit rating on okay pull this guy over because he's easy to extract extract from where everybody knows gonna plea. Deal has literally became a target for life it. It sounds counterintuitive but don't think that the government doesn't see you as a yard bully yeah number one way to make money but if you give him some inclination. You're willing to pay a little extra. They're going to take advantage of that that and lots of states and lots of areas. Have you know where does and the other question is. Where does the revenue go. Some goes to the state itself. Some stays right near community. They really like to talk about how that is. We're going to get back into this conversation but i want to hear what's on your mind and what is interesting you this evening eight fifty five or fifty free. This is free talk block. I can definitely say that. I have found the best cryptocurrency wallet certainly the best named one. I'm mark edge and i love the edge wallet. I've been using it for the last few months. You can buy sell trade in hold your cryptocurrency securely. 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Talk live originating from our rickie new hampshire studio so listen anytime at dot f._m. That's you're listening to the hot. Land-use feed radio network at live dot hotline newsfeed dot com. This stream is supported by advertisers and contributions russians by you follow us on facebook twitter and instagram the public news service daily newscast for wednesday wednesday august twenty first two thousand nineteen. I'm eric tag off the trump administration weekends banking regulations and events this weekend again mark the four hundredth anniversary of slavery in the united states. <hes> i today president trump signals. He's looking at possible. Tax cuts amid signs the u._s. Economy could be slowing down while speaking with reporters on tuesday trump indicated a temporary payroll tax cut is one action his administration regime could have in the works. This comes after several senior white house officials denied to the washington post. They were discussing such a move trump and other members of his administration. Administration have been quick to point out that the economy still is booming and unemployment is at a fifty year low however economic indicator showed trump's prolonged trade trade war with china is adding to fears about where the economy is heading economists also say tax cuts would only provide a temporary impact but another move by the trump administration is fueling anxiety as well consumer groups are wanting that new financial rules will make a recession more likely after the trump administration moved to dramatically weakened banking regulations. Suzanne potter explains on tuesday federal regulators approved major changes to the volcker rule. Carter dougherty with americans for or financial reform says the rule was put in place after the two thousand eight financial crisis golden rule was to ensure that banks if they gambled. They did it with their own money. They did not leave taxpayers on the hook or they did not create instability in the financial system. The volcker rule prevents banks from using money to make bets on market outcomes traits rates that are backed with tax payer money by the f._d._i._c. federal regulators appointed by president trump argued the changes will give banks greater flexibility events marking the the four hundredth anniversary of the birth of slavery in the united states will take place in virginia this weekend on august twenty third sixteen nineteen the first ship bearing being enslaved africans arrived at point comfort now fort monroe in virginia many consider the moment a dark part of history. That's shaped this country forever. Our kathy spangler executive director the weekends activities says the events are designed to help us confront the role slavery has had in our country reported a great democracy chrissy and we also forged a score on the earth in slavery and to be able to be open about that and have conversation around it and not be separated by it is what we hope for this event and the ongoing conversations it will forge ceremonies honoring african americans who lost their lives to slavery will kick off friday morning warning at fort monroe. All activities are free and open to the public. This is diane bernard. Reporting this is p. N. s. reproductive and civil rights organizations are hoping to strike a final blow against ohio so-called heartbeat bill. We get the story from mary. Sherman senate bill twenty three three bans abortions. If a fetal heart is detected which typically is around six weeks of pregnancy. The law was temporarily blocked from going into effect on july third pending the outcome of a legal title challenge on tuesday. A motion was filed asking for a permanent injunction to prevent the banned from taking effective future. Jennifer branches counsel for the plaintiffs. The law has been clear in this country that a band this early in pregnancy prior to viability is never been allowed so the the judge should follow the law that already exists and declare the statute unconstitutional fifty percent of ohio voters said the opposed the heartbeat bill and a recent quinnipiac theak university poll and sixty one percent said they agreed with the roe versus wade decision that affirmed access to safe and legal abortion is a constitutional right north north carolina's marine fisheries commission is expected to vote thursday on a proposal that would play certain conditions on shrimp trawling in order to help juvenile fish in the atlantic gordon the new rules would allow the state to regulate the times when shrimp could be harvested manage the coastal areas open to shrimping and limit the size of shrimp nets tim guests quickey with the north carolina wildlife federation says destructive fishing practices have harmed the health of the state's fish populations on average for every pound amount of trip harvested. There's an additional four pounds of fish harvested in wasted supporters of the proposal say putting caps on on shrimp trawling would set commercial and recreational fisheries on the road to recovery by reducing juvenile fish death and giving them the opportunity to spawn at least once once before being harvested nadia ramleh gone reporting a new poll shows utah women ranked last among the fifty states for the amount of money. They make compared to men then data from a study by y._m._c._a. Utah and the institute for women's policy research found the so-called wage gap for utah women with fulltime jobs was just sixty eight point point nine percent of what similarly employed men make ten percent lower than the national average aaron jemison with y._m._c._a. Utah cites a variety of cultural policy based reasons for utah women to a fallen so far behind not until we start to look at what are some of those gender norms going on in their home life but then also how do we make workplaces. This is more family friendly so that both men and women can take care of those needs. Will we really start to see that gap close and that's really where our policy focuses jewison says the a study finds that women often bear much of the caretaking burden and families and that can have a major effect on what jobs they take or how long they keep them and that was mark richardson with our final story. I'm eric tagging off for public news service. We are member and listener supported and online at public news service dot o._r._g. Orgy thursday nights but every once in a while i get a chance to pop in and hang out with you guys here. I like to do that not not that. I died. I know you guys miss martha. Great host hekkies been around since there was a free talk live but mark is in coltrane's right. Yes right now traveling right now mark <hes> the regular host on wednesday nights is in south korea has been in south korea evidently likes it like jay said. He is on his way back so probably next wednesday. You'll get treated to mark again but in the meantime we got myself chris and j and angie and we're here to talk about what you like like to talk about and that can be anything at all. This is an open phones a show you can bring up the topic and you can set the set the course of this ship and let us know what is interesting to you but first we are going to go to the phones where we've got larry from indianapolis annapolis larry. You're on free talk live. What's on your mind. Why are you doing now. I kind of feel like you are <hes> <hes> a sample of millenniums right well. I don- mouth larry. I might be a little old two millennia okay but you know what i mean. I mean when i say the young white children right well. I don't know how old you are jay. I just turned thirty okay well. I'm close to you. I'm closer to than i am to these guys so go ahead with your question. Here's what i'm saying and i don't know whether it's pervasive or not but here in indianapolis every corner has a group of a whiskey distillery are some other account greasy spoon on every corner now and the thing about it is the city is subsidizing these brewpubs and distilleries by buying in their equipment setting up their place to do business and giving them business loans right business through urban development thing yeah it's through development equipment bit does the deal now alcoholism and the dangerous disease we agree on that ah i can certainly agree with that because my brother died from alcoholism and i know in the black community about twenty thirty years ago we were fighting to get the scourge of a liquor store out of every corner and our community now. It looks like it's admissible and not only is that admissible able but heroin use miserable. They're all earn apart crossing the library. They were given out clean syringes chernick and suave to people as if the state as sanctioned heroin now but you know this is awful where because because when the crack was gone on they were forcing it on black communities they forced alcohol on black communities so it looks like some kind of a turnabout about his players come in where they are willingly exposing their children to this poison everyday. They wanted to drink every night. They say if you own we'll come out and spend sixty five hundred dollars to rescue you so you can call us back in the same night. I mean is this. Some kind of judgment. Judgment is taking place are paid back for what they've done to the colored people so so let's take a look at what's going on anytime the state sponsors alcoholism mm-hmm and heroin addiction and they don't even make seconds thought about it in fact they call it economic development oh. I don't think that's the case with the reason we have an opioid epidemic and it's an epidemic larry. You see people in the street. You know so what's going on. You know that the black communities in white communities have always had a heroin addict. They've always been heroin addicts. The differences france's now. We have thousands and thousands of kids who would've never become addicts if it weren't for the war on drugs the war on drugs caused prescriptions i to be written for anybody because you know big. Pharma said that hey if you've got any kind of pain <hes> you know vicodin. That's the safest way to treat it. Guess what that addicted half the population it seems like and then they said well. We're right in too. Many prescriptions yet no doctors. You can't write anymore prescriptions for vicodin which then left these people who you already addicted did with no place to get pain relief so they found an alternative black tar heroin so i mean these are problems created because they created the problem in the first place and they're trying to figure out a way to profit off of it nine. Of course they are what i would argue is that we would be better off with no laws about heroin. Let people do heroin if they want to do heroin one and guess what larry i'm fifty five years old. I never woke up one day and go. You know it's wednesday. Wouldn't this be a great day to go. Try heroin. I've never tried heroin. Have you tried heroin. No i have not but it's legal now because if you get caught with heroin in your system i tomorrow in your pocket when you all day is a class b felony are used to be identified as you let you go. I have no problem with trying on to save somebody's life well. That's a suicide victim do you would you ever have tried heroin and like you said order. You're advocating. You're advocating it. You know it's legal. You're telling me it's pretty much political so gunpoint so would you would you try heroin now. No i have no desire to learn because i see i i see the homeless people that are sleeping under bridges that are addicted to heroin every day addison thing about it is they are saying alcohol alcohol too. That's the gateway to heroin is alcoholism and they've got these fancy breweries and they laugh and joke about it the wine bars back to back. I mean that's alcoholism at all happened before for alcohol and drugs takes all the money we drives a is a lot tonight and i i've drank. I had during my military time. I was in for four years. It's they say that alcohol takes search twenty four hours to leave your body. You heard that before. I can tell you for at least three years. Alcohol never left my body there. You go all right. Some people can take some game ballot it yeah. That's the thing you're a letter letter at u._k. Mike it and you got somebody saying come repent this week. We grab a beer garden and a wine garden. You can get a cocktail if you want it. That's dangerous dangerous. I'm with you on a couple of things. I don't think the the the city of indianapolis should be involved in trying into work in the free market that just says yeah and that's wrong. That's taking your money and you don't approve of that. Why are they spending. All bliss. Development is being paid for with your money so thank you larry. That's what we should be angry with. We should be angry with politicians are getting involved in things. They have nothing to do with they shouldn't have anything to do. I like to add a little bit to the heroine epidemic a little information here you you guys know who <hes> silver davis. He's on the show on tuesday sometimes and he's been a good friend of mine for years and he was <hes> you know special forces in afghanistan and and there was a report that came out about two years ago that <hes> basically opium or productions increase something like seventeen thousand percent since the united states took occupation of afghanistan and dave will tell you that they were told not to interrupt what the local economy and not to disrupt the <hes> heroin irwin production and heroin flow and basically the military is literally subsidizing heroin being imported into the united states therefore it is cheaper than about any other street drug <music> out there right now. It's cheaper than cannabis in many places it's insane and <hes> this this opens up a couple other areas that are definitely worth exploring <hes> if you have and <hes> a newborn baby <hes> better yet if you have an eighteen year old son he has never lived in the united states when we were not at hat war with afghanistan. There's something wrong with the cycle of endless warfare and ended the welfare eight fifty five four fifty three this talk live. You love bitcoin. It's the future right. Well no not if everyone stops using it. I mean think about it. How many places is in your town. Take bitcoin one none. Let's be real if this bitcoin thing is ever going to happen. It's going to need your help. The good news is the guys at any pay. They have your back. We built a website called helped me. Take bitcoin dot com and it's a place you can send any business and they'll be set up to take bitcoin in five minutes. It's helped me take bitcoin dot com. 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You'll love it. <hes> we have been talking about <hes> our last caller wanted to talk about addiction and talking about you know what's happening in indianapolis with <hes> evidently the city provided provided start up funds for lots of bars and and he's you know saying they've got a huge opioid crisis going on down there as far as opioids go you need to look at the models that have been tried in europe because what we have here doesn't work <hes> you can look at complete legalisation relation of heroin in switzerland which is amazing. They have driven new usage almost down to nothing. Nobody you just wakes up in the morning and says hey. I think i'll try heroin today. They might smoke a little weed. They might drink some <hes> swiss spears and they're good swiss beers <hes> but nobody really jumps right onto the heroine bandwagon unfortunately in this country a lot of people got lead onto it by pharmaceutical opioids and that's kind of where it starts <hes>. We're going to go to washington state where we've got mike on the line. Mike you're on free talk live. What's on your mind. How are you doing can weigh in on your last caller. He was very inspiring that gentlemen larry they're called <hes> i grew up in in the same town that kurt cobaine grew up in and we have a terrible terrible problem with heroin and addiction but we have a worse problem with the county and and i'll tell you what the county did recently <hes> they re. They extended with grant money of course the needle exchange program what i noticed was they have enough. They come on our talk show every morning gene and they they don't realize when they tell people miss truce. There's not only an archive but some people pay attention to everything they hear and they lie a lot well what they did. They extended the needle exchange program and they bought a used motorhome from an unknown source which i'm going to get to the bottom of it because i i know what they did. Everybody's benefiting benefiting from this grant money and the guy that's got an addiction getting a clean needles so he can keep getting messed up every day of his life and eventually wind up committing suicide or just oh you you know it's it's overdose. They should be ashamed of themselves. Yes they need clean needles but somebody bought a used motorhome at the county. That's unmarked which means somebody that somebody new new chances are just got rid of their old motor home office grant money and i think it's a shame that is a shame as far as heroin goes i say can i had you mentioned. The county. Is that allowed. I don't care grays harbor county aberdeen hoquiam all those areas down there and then the cities are blake buying property. They took property from a guy that had almost problem is disabled. He had one hundred people living. He couldn't do anything about it. They forced him out. They bought the property <hes> then any put everybody in a mitigation center binz hall forty pounds and now they sold the property all of a sudden they've got they've got a buyer for this property on the water. The mayor had been to china to the port of china. You know twenty five year old mayor down there and then now. They're got the property like within a week. You know it's all of ascending got a buyer. They keep coming on the radio and disclosing their own lives now. Now they're buying another piece of property so they can put one hundred their all profits business the they're running it like an homeless guy and the homeless guy still gonna be cold. They're not giving a blanca. They're not doing anything for them right. They're making money for themselves and i it's terrible. That's pretty much. Thank you so much. This is the great show. I'm gonna new here but i really appreciate the guys hey no problem. So what would you do to address the homeless issue. That's a big deal in seattle on and on the west coast many major cities even here in manchester am i. I'm not still here still here. I'm just asking you go ahead. Well what i have noticed. Is i live in a very rural community in the mountains beautiful but go to everett washington a lot and my friend took me other data show me some very nice homes they had <hes> santa cans and very nice high-quality tents in their backyard and they had found people that really wanted to step up in life and allowed them to take i mean we need to take care of our own. People fall and the company's doing nothing to take does that take government do then i got no you can't will never do it. The the government will never do it. That's the whole thank we have to do it. We have to do it yeah. The realtors association local realtors association is lobbying to to make sure you can't put a tent in your backyard garden. Sandy canned exactly somebody. Stay there or that. You know your uncle can't camp out in a camper for you know or you can't have year round yeah exactly and that's and that's it's shameful anyway. That's that's thank you so much. You guys have a good night. Thanks he brings up a lot of good points and and it's it's one issue you know you can start out talking by heroin but then it becomes about needle exchange and then it does become about homeless because is these these problems go in a row. I will say that again. I gotta feel inspired by what the portuguese and the swiss are doing so this is the most direct on heroin. They just said if you're an addict you can you can count on us to help you. They do provide needles. They provide a place to shoot and they provide they distribute. The swiss government distributes heroin. Guess what that's pure heroin one so when you go in because you're a heroin addict and you need a shot. It's a known quantity. It's not this might have fenton all in it or this might be cut with something else. You know exactly what you're getting. They've come to the conclusion that people who are addicted to opiates that are on heroin need to be made. It has to be some form of maintenance. If you try to switch them all cold turkey then you're instantly involved in a thirty day ninety day one hundred in twenty one hundred and eighty days at least of rehab whereas total misery for these folks right if you can get them onto some sort of medically assisted maintenance program graham while you try to treat the addiction you're going to eliminate all the crime that will come when that guy runs out a heroin. That's when he breaks into your house that's when he steals your car stereo <hes> when he doesn't have the means to get what he needs and and i think a lot of us who have never done aaron or never read about it. Don't understand that concept of need. It's something they have to have. If they don't get hit they get violently. We made a choice to begin with to try but i mean you you make a choice in everything in life and they made a choice whenever the first time they try to it was their choice. I might disagree with you a little bit. I hi thank i might to. We're gonna talk about that does every addict dinner all start with a choice eight fifty five four fifty free this this is free talk live and arkadelphia his a conference dedicated to the principles of liberty individual sovereignty and freedom from coercion located in philadelphia. The cradle of liberty and arkadelphia seeks to shed light on issues such as geopolitics blog jane economics spiritual health and wellness as well as exposing the earth's sacred hidden knowledge featuring mark paseo max egan derrick rose jeff berwick and many more this september thirteenth thirteen through fifteen th for info and tickets visit and arkadelphia dot com gold has definitely been on the move recently and there is no more secure investment historically mcilvanney. 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They decided at some point that i'm going to go to heroin if they had like drugs from a doctor or they couldn't get pills pills anymore. They decided to choose to take heroin. I'm not saying that you know we shouldn't help them tried to clean but i'm saying that if they are overdosing and they do it multiple notable times why are we continuing to save them and their their children their fathers their mothers. You know i get it. They're sisters their brothers and their family and you love them but but what can you do for a person won't themselves. The issue and this is based on what i've read. I mean and i don't have a great understanding of w-what opioid withdrawal is like but the book that i read and i highly recommend it's called dope sick. I don't have the ad <hes> name of the author. Dope sick was the book and she did a good job of going. She wanted to write about this topic and she went back to west virginia and virginia and and in the current opioid crisis. That's kind of where ground zero was appalachia. It started down there and it also started a oddly enough in in maine. Maine was like <hes> the second ground zero of opioids because there were a lot of people that do a lot of dangerous jobs in maine people through dangerous jobs get injured and that was the issue they found a lot of people early on <hes> that were being prescribed opioids and unfortunately your prescription runs out and if you've been told if your doctor's been told that you know vicodin is completely lee safe. Don't worry about taking it. Prescribe it to children. That's what they were doing if if your son if his knees hurting him because he got hurting hurting <unk> hurting a high school football game give that kid vicadin and don't worry about refills because it's not gonna be addictive to him. That kid suddenly hundley finds himself addicted. If he stops taking opioids he will get physically. Ill and i don't mean throwing up just once. He is gonna feel like death until he gets it again because he is already hit that point the problem. I think i see with <hes> addicts. Addicts is they are at that point where every time they tried to stop. They are gonna get dope sick and how long does dope sick last a okay days until they get it or there. You're gonna try to cold turkey yourself off of opioids. That's pretty hard to go through. It could rat last rest of your life. Almost actually i'd love to have after you guys talked about this a little bit. My aunt is a doctorate doctor of psychology. She explained to me pretty much. What happens with the the <hes> dopamine and dopamine receptors in the brain due to opiate use and afterward liked. We're going to get back into this but first we want to go to someone in west virginia genu- who wishes to remain anonymous no name in west virginia. You're on free talk live. What's on your mind. Well <hes> about <hes> <hes> <hes>. It's a choice. Actually i'm a coal miner and i was injured in the minds hurt. My bike had <hes> some top fall in in on me. <hes> the doctor prescribed me oxycontin forties for about i'm going to say about five and a half and then all of a sudden getting prescribed me anything i was all better but no actually i was not i was worse than i was when i walked in his office because i'm addicted to it and at that time <hes> it was legal for these pharmacy surgical companies to pay these doctors to push their product and i'm not talking here. Stop dollars ten dollars. I'm talking. Here's a cruise. Here's a trip to hawaii. Here's a new car. Here's whatever you need to push our product. It's one hundred percent safe and pushing it. Did it wasn't unjust. Here's what's available think about prescribing it. It's date the more they prescribe the more the the more perks they got. I don't know how you feel that anything other than being a drug dealer at a higher level it is it's legalized drug dealing and the withdrawal sandwich they last for up to a month. I've been through the methadone clinics. I've been through the spots and clinics. It's all bunch of bush. I mean it. It's legalized alive. You're you're a legalized. Buzz is already is because you can go to work and function because you don't have to go out and hunt for peels and i've never turned to here at one. Thank god i was always afraid of needles and i just i never did that so into oxygen cotton you just quit. They stop prescribing it and you quit cold turkey. No i i went through a series of a month at a time of being sick of an and pardon my vulgarity but <hes> of of using the bathroom on myself vomiting myself film like i've got the flu tom's team i mean there's no you can't get comfortable. Your legs jerk your legs ache and <music>. I'm i'm so thankful that that there's an actual radio station that will actually talk about this because usually it's swept under the rug and people don't care about it. I mean yes. I'll be an addict to the day. I doc regardless of whether i'm using or not. I'm still an addict. That's the mindset is programmed into your body chemistry changes and this is what people don't understand you. You think it's a choice choice. It's not it was a choice for me to take those pills and it was too because reasons exactly. I thought hey this is okay. You know i'm i'm laid up. I'm in a cast from my waist down. I'm the doctor says it's okay those pills once you you were out of the cast yeah i took him up until the day he cut me off and then i went found him on the street right i mean because it was out of that or later earns speak thick and lose my job function in society and are you. Are you on a medical maintenance program. I'm now for like something you brought up. Suboxone and methadone are did the sa- boxin de the it to an extent. The methadone was just legalized. That's all it was and and they can say what they want to but when i tried to leave that methadone that's an clinic. They were like well. No we don't need to win you off. You need to stay here for a couple here. Let's try one milligram going down and at the time i was on one hundred twenty twenty milligrams that stuff it. It took me forever to get out of there. He asked him for you. <hes> ibew gain dot dot com is. I'm not on nothing now but i i'm clean and sober. It took my wife but leave me and take my kids. I gain the i booking. Clinic is uttered in mexico. I got a friend who actually works for his sister was hooked on heroin and what i will gain does is a reset your dopamine in your brain basically set your dopamine receptors back to literally the day you're born actually clears up a lot of other different things but it's been a tremendous us for <hes> helping people kick opiate addiction. Now it does cost several thousand dollars to go. Do one of these clinics and ibew gains element. That's like mind from our soil in south america now. What's interesting is i've read about in books about heroin addiction. I begin gets brought up but <hes> why is it in mexico because it's illegal to prescribe been used in the sites. I b. o. G. i. n. e. The reason why it's illegal in the united states is because the lobbyists are your former suitable reps that pay the senators to tell them no. Don't wet people get clean lean. Don't let them get sober because that's one less dollar that we can make it boils down to in junkies. 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We've recently been talking about addiction and particularly opioid addiction. Which kind of has let the phones up. If you're interested in being on the air and you wanna talk about this stuff <hes> try giving us a call eight hundred fifty five four fifty free and we've. I've got a number of calls on this topic now <hes> we kinda start off the point. You know it's the question is i do people choose to become addicts or or is it something out of their control. That's really the the root question in that that angie asked and do heroin addicts choose to become heroin addicts. Do pill addicts choose to become pill addicts addicts or is it something that someone else's helped with like you've heard like doctor doctors do certainly <hes> play their role in all this stuff to you. Were going to go to the phones again again to west virginia <hes> where we have <hes> an anonymous. He says psychiatrist rest on the line anonymous. You're on free talk live. What's on your mind. I was actually just listened to your caller beforehand on my drive home and <hes> he does make a valid point. There have been a lot of problems here in west virginia and other areas because the way initially a lot of these drugs were marketed were hey these are great alternatives for long term pain. Unfortunately one of the things we have learned is that yes. These medications can be useful appropriately short-term for pain or for other asian even with it however the problem is he's medications do become very very addictive and these people wanna start off as saying. Hey you know i wanna be a drug addict but the problem is you get that flip over where people who benefit from these medications and then they do become hooked and then and you move to that point where it's i don't. It's not that oh. I need these medicines to feel good. It flips over to the point. Where i i want these medicines to not feel sick to not feel bad. You're not go through drawl right now and then become doping escalating point yeah exactly now i have seen a lot of people who they will go and get sober and after you get through withdrawal because usually those first seventy two hours howard's those are the worst absolutely the worst but then after that it's not so much the physiologic dependence it does become the neurologic that as you said the brain chemistry whenever you're looking at these olympic pathway that's when it becomes more of the truly the neurologic as opposed it is. You're watching anonymous. Thanks for the call. I appreciate it. We're going to stay in west virginia where we have <hes> jane in calling in from charleston. Wanna talk about addiction jane. You're on free talk. Live yeah my on. You are on all right well. This is to address a question that you asked about how can family members help someone who does not wanna change and <hes> it's called it's a book called beyond addiction and it's how to help people with science and kindness okay and so <hes> the family members actually are some of the best people that can help people who seemingly don't wanna change make a change and that's got to be really hard to have. Do you have a personal experience with addiction or see it in your community. <hes> <hes> i'm a i've worked with it as a therapist and i teach the craft class gotcha which is community reinforcement enforcement and family training jane. Do you know who that book is written by <hes> just one second <hes>. What is he well. I'm looking for that is <hes> it teaches the person the family member about motivation what motivates how how to motivate and what it does not work in motivation teaches the family member. How did you self-care. Let's see it's geoffrey geoffrey moore. Thank you thank you <hes>. I have no doubt and you know i used to live in maryland and i lived in pennsylvania. I used to live about five miles from the west virginia boarder and i was gone <hes> before i left but they talk about the epidemic spreading up and down i eighty one and and you know they used to refer to hagerstown. Maryland is honey town while they were bringing through the heroin for the northeast they could always count on stopping stopping in hagerstown and selling a whole bunch at a high profit because we did have a lot of industry and a lot of serious injuries injuries from guys that were working in warehouses or in automotive plants roofers framers <hes> contractors co-owners yeah mersal fisherman and <hes> i guess that some an addiction and you can't just put put a l- i can't put a label on it and say this is what causes it but i can't say that this most recent epidemic i thoroughly put on the medical community and on the drug companies i just do. I can't sit here and listen to person after person. Tell me they've been prescribed vicodin or or some other opioid longer than was necessary. Have you checked out the new yorker article on the sackler family. No i haven't they made twelve million dollars. Oh yes i know welcome billion dollars in gave our country three in eighty one billion dollar price tag in legal fees wages lost and medical costs and addiction. This is purdue pharmaceutical nicole correct that family yeah and they have been sued successfully by a number of states for damages because of the misleading and that's the thing it's misleading marketing telling doctors that it's absolutely safe you can prescribe this to a person for for three or four months with no concern about them becoming addicted. That's criminal yeah. It really is especially. Do it too young kids. I i know a kid. He's like third cousin to me and at fourteen he was put on some boxing because he was a got basically addicted to vicodin over a soccer injury when he was like nine and he was like violently silently sick going crazy when she took him on the lake and <hes> yeah and there's there's so many stories like this and they're also stories stories and what this lady argues is that okay it became addicts with because it started with people on pain meds but then it became the party drug of choice voice now there are losers out their natural born losers is people who are just dry mess up does no one-size-fits-all for any of this drug addiction stuff i get that but so you can look at a point in time when it escalated when it became used by the users over being over prescribed and then suddenly <hes> vicadin become something that was being passed around at parties and then you get users that had no pain issues suddenly finding finding them damn. I really would like to have another one of those pills. I haven't had one in a couple of days. I'm feeling like i should have one and then those people are getting getting addicted from casual use. It's just it's crazy and insane and my heart goes out to people that have to deal with well anyways anyways. I mean this is just what happens when you governments in control when government controls pharmaceutical industries when government regulates markets when the military subsidizes the harvesting or the cultivation the harvesting and transportation so was there a big military base for all the heroin was coming from on. I eighty one that was getting distributed all over the country you think now it was coming from <hes>. Let me think that would've no it would have been a pre afghanistan <hes> but you know it was this was the same drug gangs back then we had the drug gangs and if you want to know why drug gangs are powerful. It's because of government you you want to make this stuff illegal and <hes> crackdown on it that just makes them more powerful. Their prices will go up. They create its more profit for them. Mm-hmm legalize all the prohibited substances are just totally you know regulate them like they are tomatoes like darryl. Perry used to say in his presidential campaign. It will put the gangs out of business. Yes they will be done and you've got to take and i agree with this aspect of what you're saying. You've got to take personal responsibility if you're being over prescribed medications and a if you know what you should every time you go to your doctor. You should be wary because our medical community has shown own. It's irresponsibility in addressing the opioid crisis. That's all we got for tonight folks. I appreciate you listening and tune in again tomorrow tomorrow for more fun taxation as five you have a crypto wealth advisor or coach. 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A higher close yesterday in the markets carl sets her agrivisor services today carl. We really came back here late. In the session. Today's things were on the plus side. Most of the day rita taking some good support from <hes> a few different factors but to the main ones savings are really leaning on right. Now is number one the podcastone that we're seeing on the crop tours and ever fielded reports coming in low numbers <hes> coming in a lot of them are on that seven to eight hundred pods being <hes> televised in some places boards of thirty to forty percent fewer than a year ago and while he's sleeping are still setting setting pods and flowering and booming. It's it's gonna struggle to get up to last year's equivalents so we're getting some support from there. <hes> also heavily oversold funds short seventy seventy thousand contracts complex really no risk premium in case we do have a short cropped so that gave us that sport mets like complex today still over into the corn corn up one and a half today really kind of a leader <hes> taken sport greens <hes> <hes> gordon the same thing where these mixed reports in a little bump in our export demand that he'll cornall today and then we jumped in there and and <hes> high-quality on u._s. week some additional export business here. There's hopes of that coming up in the next few weeks. Especially some of the goebel goble corrupts a little bit lower protein content might be used for feed green but may not make milling quality so we could see an uptick in demand for ah just pretty much a light day for trade but funds not willing to so as long as we can keep that attitude. Maybe we can keep this really going. Reader charles charles setzer agrivisor services well. An issue on everyone's mind is propane. Will we have enough with the upcoming anticipated high. They demand in the harvest season twenty nineteen. Dan pioneer is with gromark energy my response to that. Is you know you look at inventories stories. Just touch on them a little bit. You know we've been tracking them all summer. <hes> still gonna probably end up around that ninety to ninety five range on propane tories in the u._s. So to me. That's a fairly comfortable number. <hes> probably still well over the five year average. You know it just gets back to the simple when you look back at a thirteen fourteen or maybe even a nine ten that big grain drying year <hes> you know we gotta get the propane to where it needs to be in in the midwest or wherever it needs to be at the time so i think there's going to be plenty of propane. <hes> it's just getting where it needs to be logistically yeah and that's what's that that's a key there so what about that what about the infrastructure and getting it from point a. to point b. There's not too much that has changed overall since the <hes> thirteen fourteen grain drying cold winter year. Maybe a few things that have changed is i would tell you rails being become a lot more popular in the in the midwest iowa wisconsin little bit illinois but more prevalent minnesota iowa and wisconsin. There's been several rail terminals pop-up which needed needed to happen that bought an avenue. I more propane to come in from the north <hes> but as we start to look at eighty inventories. They don't look quite as good as u._s. The u._s. inventories today. They're probably roughly a couple million behind benedetta two cents. I look at it but overall. They're probably roughly couple million behind and <hes> well. They catch up by the the end of the year. We only got six weeks. Maybe six or eight weeks left to to build inventory so we'll see where that goes but how do you as the propane specialists and as an energy team at you prepare properly giving all those question marks heading into this harvest well i think the biggest thing that you know the look at today as you know we wanna make sure that all our storage is fallen and weather it <hes> being conway kansas or whether it be out at the end end-use retailer. You know we wanna make sure all our storage is filled. <hes> a lot of the home he retail tanks. You know where we're really talking to members about. Hey you you know let's get out there. Let's make sure home. He tanks her filled and maybe you know maybe even some of them will call customers you know take the extra step and call them and say hey. Where's your tank ad yet. Should we get out there. Should we fill it. I think that's the biggest thing you can do in preparation for the unknowns. I guess is you gotta. Make sure you're having tories. Full that way if you do you need it. It's there dan fattier. Gromark energy specialists propane the losses back from chicago when we come back. This is our f._d._a. The only one the illinois economy runs on our homegrown agricultural products are dairy beef pork corn and soybeans grow the agricultural industry by nearly twenty billion dollars each year but we don't just grow illinois we grow north america canada mexico account for over forty five billion dollars in u._s. Agricultural exports and they support support more than one million american jobs exports to canada and mexico mater to everyone in the agriculture and food industries a message from illinois farmers and their checkoff programs the it through headlines microphones or tweets. Mike also connects rural routes for you. Mike has been covering farm and food issues for more than three decades. Whether it's print the video radio or feeding your online appetite mike keeps you in the loop. Here's a bit about his rural roots. I keep our communities state and country in mind with everything i do do my job allows me to work toward this mission with farmers and other rural illinois beat routes or routes are empty radio farm week now dot com and farm week. If you connected mopped up welcome back in chicago remarks. Annual meeting takes place this time every year and their c._e._o. Jim spradlin is here this five six for you now right at five years you mentioned for this. Is your tenth. Stop through the employment list. <hes> ugh i think started visit account i did. I started in finance rolls on the side of our business so manual ledgers to now now apple google. You know what's part of agriculture. Where does the cooperative fit yeah. The change has been revolutionary. I i i look back over the course of my career which is right at thirty seven years now and there's been so much change in technology in our system and it really shows that we have adapted a lot over time much more so than then you think about it as it came in increments that it came it's been it's been in create more efficiencies create more insights and just better ways to do business for us. How do you especially medium grain elevators. Later is just one part of the business but just landscape has changed so much in five years and so. How do you stay financially strong. How do you adjust to what's going on on and and you know how do you steer a big ship like that. It's hard to make creek turns in anti-big show for us. We really have to be thoughtful about how how we allocate and prioritize capital because we want to invest capital in maintenance as is necessary. We want to invest in organic growth that we want to invest in acquisition we also want to invest in r. downstream businesses and our midstream assets which are more of our wholesale fuel terminals fertilizer licensed terminals and so forth and also upstream investments that we have so it's important for us to maintain a very strong balance sheet because we want want to have this dry powder available to us to take advantage of the opportunities as they arise but it's also important ties to allocate that across the portfolio no way of our businesses and geographies in a way that that is smart for our organization and good for our shareholders seniors interesting where ideas grow like is really thinks you're gonna eventually celebrate one hundred years and some of those basics from the mid twenties are the same today but at the same time <hes> new ideas new opportunities it's true it's true and when i think about the longevity of our organization i tend to think a couple of things come to mind i that i like to mention one is the foresight of our forefathers was amazing and the structure and the benefit that it provides advised alternately to our former owner customers along the way and then the second thing is the manner in which are organization has adapted and evolved. You know over over time to to to stay on the front edge. I mean we work really hard to provide leading edge technologies and and to trial trial trial new things and and to find what's next that ultimately does benefit our our farm customer and even a are non farmer customers the people i work with <hes> some of them just recently retired but there are some people that visit with on a regular basis where they are are in their twenties early thirties and so part of me thinks well look at these young men and women can have a career here for forty years when that'd be great but an opportunity to get young age so you have that you also have all these efficiencies on how we do business and how to keep costs costs down for your your customers so hopefully they are still enough good jobs that people can be of they may look different than than they used to but would you still want to have a lot of good jobs and be a model employer for for certain jobs i mean people are the most important element of our business business and and certainly we we will have more jobs than less jobs in the future but they will be different jobs and in all likelihood. We're certainly data is all important to our organization today. We're we are hiring more data analyst type expertise and folks that can use data in new in ways that we hadn't thought of and we can leverage them to help either increase efficiency or responsiveness in some way for our customer. It can be applied broadleaf weeds. It can be fuel propane a number of different very nice though i will tell you a big thing that you know is a common project in our system. Day are logistic studies where we we have software. Mapping tools and people have the expertise to diagram where we're customers. Smersh reside where facilities are how route are ran and create more efficiencies you know in that process same time of those twenty six retirees being recognized seventeen of them worked for the company for the cooperative at least twenty nine years and i think six were for forty years or more. It seems like a pretty good complement to be able to have that sort of stability. Thank you we're. We're very fortunate that that our system is enjoyed. Folks stayed their entire career and i always think they weren't enabler of that as a system i in on the prime example of that it's having started and financials on the member side of f s member side of our business and and and traveling back and forth between gromark and f two different times in my career i'm now in my tenth row and you can do that here and that's why i think people do stay because there there's an opportunity to to grow to take different paths in your career and to still be part of the same system surveillance so if you don't like it's been my whole life here and also my boss gonna retire. You know it's my opportunity for advancement tonight and we've seen we've seen so much of that. I mentioned to our shareholder that group this morning and a q. and a. that that it wasn't <hes> five to ten years ago. Oh fifty two percent of our employees baby boomers and today there's only twenty percent better baby boomers so those of us in that category are reaching near retirement age and and <hes> we've evolved to twenty percent baby boomers forty percent gen xers and forty percent millennials so we have lost a lot of experience along the way that was beneficial to our organization but we've gained a ton of new ideas new energies and certainly a lot of technical skills come along with a younger employees jim. Thanks so much great seeing you. Thank you jim spradlin c._e._o. Girl margaret their annual meeting in chicago. We break for markets and weather whether buying or selling grain protect your profits from insects from rescue treatment's long-term control central life sciences products such as dicon agr sent that no easy insecticide or diane agr plus can help maximize your profits learn more at bug. Free grains dot com with the are f._d._a. Market summary for this thursday thursday morning. I'm jim taylor corn beans and wheat all ending wednesday higher september corn closing at three sixty two and a half up three december corn up one and a half three seventy and a quarter march scorn three eighty two and a half up one and a quarter september beans closing at eight sixty and a half up four and three quarters november beans up four and three quarters eight seventy three january beans eighty six and three quarters up four and three quarters september elite for sixty two and a half up two and a half december elite up one and a half four sixty eight september being meal to ninety four seventy up seventy eighty cents september bean oil up thirty one cents twenty eight seventy ford current electronic overnight trading september corn up three quarters december coin up three quarters march corn three eighty three up one half september beans in the overnight up three quarters november beans up three quarters january beans up a penny eight eighty seven three quarters september lead in the overnight up three quarters december december lead up half a penny for sixty eight and a half outside markets tober brent crude oil sixty thirty up twenty seven cents december gold contract down six eighty this morning fifteen hundred eight ninety in the livestock market from wednesday october lean hogs sixty three thirty down one sixty seven december lean hogs down one fifty sixty eighty two sixty seven august live cattle to sixty seven eighty seven cents october live cattle twenty two cents one hundred dollars twenty two cents august feeders one thirty seven thirty seven up one zero seven september feeders one fifty seven one thirty five thirty cash livestock at greenville livestock auction steers one eleven the top direct brielle's wilson gilts trading week on wednesday at forty one to forty nine. I'm jim taylor the r._f._i._d. Radio network good morning this is dan hicks from freezing weather with the early morning egg weather update on the r._f._i._d. Radio network for this thursday morning daytime time highs across the midwest yesterday we're in the seventies and eighties across most of the region with view low nineties in the southern part of the area and new system moving in from the west did produce scattered scattered showers and thunderstorms across sections of the midwest the past twenty four hours greatest coverage of some rain here in illinois occurred in some central and southern counties there. We're a few heavy rainfall amounts reported in the southern half of the state with some local areas of flash flooding reported overnight heavier thunderstorms have been moving eastward out of the southern half for the state early today this latest weather system will continue to produce showers and thunderstorms mainly in the southern half of the mid west over the next twelve to twenty four hours was some additional rain expected in the southern one third to one half of illinois today into tonight cooler high pressure building in from the north will bring drier weather to areas areas farther north and this hi will bring some dry time to the entire region tomorrow into the weekend cooler air will also be pushing southward with this system dropping dropping temperatures down a few degrees below normal across most of the midwest for a few days with highs in the seventies and eighties warmer ratings will start to make a return turn to the western midwest on friday afternoon and some warming will spread eastward across the region this weekend with highs back in the eighty s to low nineties the next chance for for some showers and thunderstorms here in illinois will likely occur late this weekend into the first part of next week as another cool front moves in from the northwest behind that system some canadian air will again drop temperatures down below normal for a time during the sixty day period six ten day temperatures will average near to below normal from l. Annoy westward and closer to normal farther east six to ten day rainfall should be close to normal in most areas. I'm dan hicks from freeze notice weather. You wanna learn more about these nitrogen on your farm. Join eloi farm bureau university of illinois extension area farmer's for field day friday august thirtieth media. It's free lunches included. You'll evaluate best management practices to improve nitrogen use wall protecting the environment and bottom line discussions include on-farm data crop growth weather and disease. The day starts at ten a._m. The field located at sixteen ninety fiftieth street between monmouth and kirkwood questions. All the war and henderson farm bureau or visit visit us on facebook. I'll lag all annoyed now. There are a lot of smartphone apps out there but do they have what's important to us here. 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And steady kit for this series you can find out more by going to pastor rick dot com or by texting the word daily to ninety nine zero zero zero while you listen to today's message right now. Here's pastor rick warren with part one of a message called. You are called to become welcome to week four of live. You're calling. What on earth am i here for. You're we've looked at your first call in life. Which is the calling to be loved. God doesn't want you to do anything i of off in life. He wants you to just let him do something something to you. Let god love you and that's the bedrock of everything that happens in your life. You must learn to let god love you. You were created to to be loved. You are called to be loved last week. We looked at the second of the callings in life. Which is your called to belong. You weren't made to go through life. Fall on your own. You weren't made to go through life lonely. God made you to belong to his family. Which is the church. It's the family of god and when new beloved and when you belong then you can move to the third calling which is your call to become to become now. These actually are building blocks at build on top of each other. You cannot become the woman god wants you to be. You cannot become the man god wants you to be unless you beloved and belong. I it is only in being loved and belonging that we are able to do the becoming in life now. It's really interesting little kids. We often want to become things. Let me just ask you. How many of you when you were a kid. You wanted to be a fireman a policeman or an astronaut. Can i see your hands. That's that's one of the most how many of you wanted to be a nurse when you're growing up. How many of you wanted to be barbie. How here's the here's the more likely question how how many of you did not become what you thought you would become. When you were eight years old yeah that's universal pretty universal but the bible says god created you not just to be loud and not just to belong but the third calling in life is your called become now. What is the calling rolling. We said that's the same thing as a purpose. God has five purposes for your life. God has five reasons for creating you got has five assignments admits five missions five rationales for your life. They're the callings of god or the purposes of god for your life. Waibel uses is the word calling at least ten times more often than the word purpose when it talks about your life now one of the theme versus for this series on living out your calling god's purpose for your life is romans eight twenty eight in the bible and we've looked at this verse each week on. I want us to go back to it because of its significance. Is there on your outline. You pull out your message notes. Romans eight twenty eight twenty nine from the bible says this we know the god causes everything everything to work together for the good of those who love god. It's not all good. God causes everything to work together for the good of those who love god and are called. There's that word according to his purpose. There's that word for them. Calling in purpose go together. Your calling calling in life is your purpose in life forgotten new in his people in advance before you were even born god knew you he thought you up you were his idea. You're you're not an accident for god's people in advance any chose them to become like his son talking about jesus. It's just circle that phrase become like his son. That's your third calling in life. Once you get into gods family god wants you to grow up and become come like your older brother jesus christ. He chose them to become like a son so that his son jesus would be the first born with with many brothers and sisters all right. I want you to write this down. My third calling in life is to become like christ now. What does that mean gene well. You're not going to be a god. You're never going to be a god. You're not even going to be a little mini me. God god is god and you're not that's an antidote distress when you realize that but god wants you to become godly in other words he wants you to take on the characteristics of his family like father like son and the bible says that god is loving and god is joyful and goddess peaceful in goddess patient and goddess kind. The bible tells us that god is self control. The god is merciful. These are called the fruit of the spirit. They're perfect picture of jesus. If you're going to become like jesus it means to be filled with love to be filled with joy roy to be filled with peace be filled with patients and all of those other qualities now five times in the bible. It compares pairs becoming like jesus to running a race. It is the race of life. Life is a fifty yard dash. It's it's marathon and you're running this race right now and the goal is to become the man god wants you to be the goal is to become woman. God wants you to be this. Is your third calling in life to become what god made you to become and as i said the bible calls this a race. He's in the bible talks about walking the christian walk. It talks about running the race. It talks about finishing the course and so what i wanna do this. This weekend is take the five different passages of the bible that compare life to erase and compare becoming who god wants you to be to erase and dry out from them eight principles. I call this the marathon to maturity. This is how you get to where god wants issue to be in life. God doesn't want you to stay the same. He doesn't want you to be in spiritual diapers your entire life. He wants you to grow up and what is full maturity. Look at jesus and you know that's what god wants you to become like now. How do i do this. How do i run the marathon to maturity well as i look at these five passages. Just i can summarize them. In eight statements. You might write these down. The first step in making it to the end of life and finishing the course got ask for you is i. I must simplify simplify my life. I'm a simplify my life. I have to cut out and clean out and discard all the junk junk. That's holding me back from becoming the person god wants me to become you. Gotta clean out the clutter. You gotta clean out your mind. You gotta clean out your schedule. You you gotta clean up your relationships. You gotta get rid of unnecessary baggage in other words. You don't run a marathon in the parka. You don't wear nine layers ariza clothe. If you've ever seen somebody running a marathon they stripped down to the bare essentials a pair of shorts a t shirt and the lightest pair of shoes you can. I'm fine. You don't wanna be carrying extra baggage through your life so really if you're going to become the man god wants you to be or the woman. God wants to the first thing you got to do. Is you gotta let go of stuff. You gotta let you got eliminate the diversions the distractions the detours the dead ends the timewasters wasters hebrews chapter twelve is one of the books of the bible chapters the deals with this metaphor of life as a race so we're going to spend a lot of time in hebrews hebrews twelve verse one says this let us strip off anything that slows us down or or holds us back circle anything that word in greek because we're on costing actually means a wait a means something bulky walkie something a burden something heavy that hold you back. Let us strip off anything that slows us down. Hold us back and especially those sins that wrap themselves so tightly around our feet and trip us up. We've all had that. Let us run with patients. The particular race that god has set before us a circle the phrase the particular race god has a particular race for your life and only you can run it. Your mom can't run it. Your dad can't run it. Your boyfriend can't run it. Somebody else can't run your race and by the way you can't run anybody. Else's you have a particular race ace that god wants you to run in life and everybody else says erase. God wants them to run. Here's the problem. Everybody wants you to run their race. Everybody has a plan for your life. Your parents wanted you to run the race. They wanted you to run. You may be married very to husband or wife. Who want you to run the race. They want you to run. You may have a boss who wants you to run a race he or she wants you to run but you gotta decide this. Who's race. Am i going to run in life. I can run my own race. I can run a race. If somebody else wants me to run or i can run the race that god created me to run. You can't run all three. I can't do god's plan for my life and my plan at the same time and i can't do your plan for my life in god's plan at the same time so starting point. If you're going to win in the race alive you gotta decide which race you're going to run the particular race that god has designed nine for you then. That's the one you want to run and say god. I'm going to strip off everything the sins that messed me up a moral inventory and i get the junk uncowed life and i and the weights the things that hold me back habits and the hurts and the hangups the holding back. I let go of those things and i run the particular race which means you're going to have to let go of some expectations too because you can't please everybody else and please god you gotta decide that god put me on this earth to please my parents to please my girlfriend to please my teacher. Deplete my click my club my fans and my peers my parents my partners or did god put me on this earth to live for the plan that he made me for and so you have to kind no say i'm willing to not just let go since i'm not willing not just willing to let go of weights. I'm willing to let go of what everybody else. Expects me to do in my life and when you're doing when you're doing that then you're saying god. I'm ready to become the woman you made me to be. I'm ready to become the man you made me to be. That's the first step simplify find my life. Step two is in the next verse or the next part of that verse and it's this don't get impatient or in a hurry. This race ace is gonna take your entire life. You're not gonna finish it in a week a month or even next year god's plan to make you. The person who wants you to be is a lifetime plants. It's gonna take your entire life and you can't run the race quickly. It's not a short fifty yard dash. It's a marathon so you don't get impatient. You know when i was growing up as a kid. I actually was a long distance runner and pretty quickly. You learn your coaches teach you that if you're going to run ten miles or fifteen miles. I also if you're going to run a marathon. You have to pay yourself. You can't start out really really fast because if you do you'll get winded. You run out of steam. You run out of energy. You get fatigued. You give up and you don't finish you. Gotta pace yourself now. When you become a christian you start growing really fast. It's like babies early months. They grow enormously fast. They'll double in size. You know their first year and they but thank god. You're not growing as fast as you did your first year. Aren't you glad you look pretty funny. Fact you'd probably take up the whole row. If you grew as fast every year as you did your first year grow slows down but it's stable and secure and over a period of time god's. I'm not in a hurry to growing you you too where i want you to grow. God is in a hurry not in a hurry you are but he's not when god wants to make a mushroom. He takes six hours when god wants to make an in oak tree. He takes sixty years. Whether you want to be a mushroom on oak tree. I want to be solid like an oak tree. I i want my life to be deeply rooted. I wanted to be strong stable secure so that when the rogue wins of life and the storms of life buffet me and when get blown over by problems and pressures and suffering and sorrow and scandal and loss and and all of the financial problems problems that you have in life or whatever it is it doesn't blow you over because you're a solid is an oak tree. I can show you how to become a man of god. I can teach you how how to become a woman of god. I cannot teach you how to do it quickly. It's going to take your entire life. You spell maturity t i m e now we get in a hurry but ghazan hurry so you need to just relax and realize that he's not impatient with you. Champions know how to pace ace themselves. Here's the second verse hebrews chapter twelve verse one notice. That part says let us run like the race of life. Let us run on with patients. The peculiar our particular race the goddess set out before a circle with patients. That's why you know each week at the end of every service. I always give you like one or two baby steps to take because if every week you take one or two baby steps at the end of the year you're much further down the road than you thought you were going to be and life is not one big leap across the grand canyon. It's a baby step one step at a time to quote that great theologian agent from what about bob you know take baby steps. Take baby steps okay and when you take a baby step every week. You're making progress. Don't get impatient or in a hurry number. Three the third key to running the race of life got us for you is i must spend spend time focusing on jesus every day. I'm gonna spend a little bit of time. I'm not talking about an hour two hours three hours ars ten hours. I'm gonna start with five minutes. Ten minutes fifteen minutes spent some time focusing on jesus every day and that's what the next i said about about this race in life now. Why do i need to spend some time focusing my thoughts my mind on jesus because whatever you want to become you you need to think about it. If you want to become my jesus you need to think about it and if you want to be like somebody you become like whoever you spend the most time with with if you hang out with people who have no ambition. You're going to have no ambition. If you hang out with people critical you're going to become critical. Whoever every you spend the most time with is who you're going to become like that old cliche you can't soar with the eagles if you're running with the turkeys so maybe there's some relationships you need to kind of. I've spent so much time with those people. 'cause they're tearing down. They're taking you down but if you spent spend time with jesus five ten fifteen minutes a day then you become more and more like him. We call this a quiet time a quiet time yeah. I don't care when you do it. It is best time i think it's in the morning get up and and you'll find your favorite chair and you sit down and you spend some time and you you read the bible for i five minutes and then you talk to god about stuff. That's on your heart. God hears stuff. I'm worried about lord. Here's the stuff i'm concerned about. Here's my schedule today. I'm really stressed. I i need your help and then be quiet and you let god talk to you and say god. Is there anything you want to say to me and you'll be quite reasonable. Guys ever talked us. You've i've never been quiet long enough. You always got the radio on and you got to just sit and be quiet and god sometimes gotta put a thought in my mind and sometimes i back everything. Say okay go on with your life and you move on god doesn't have to speak aloud to me. He's the one that created radio and television as he can would've thought immediately in my mind we call it. Inspiration devil gives you thought that's temptation. God gives you thought that's inspiration. You get a thought that stupidity just kidding you. Gotta spend some time focusing on jesus every day. Here's what the bible says hebrews twelve verse two. Do we do this in other words run the race of life by keeping our eyes on jesus. That's focusing on him every day. On whom loom our faith depends from start. That's the beginning of your race in life to finish the end of your waistline. You cannot become like jesus unless you spend time with jesus. Let me give you a little tip because some of you have had this habit in your life where you would have what's called a quiet time and every day you sit down for five minutes or ten ten minutes and just kind of senator yourself and you get quiet. You read the bible you pray and then you go on with your life. Maybe review your schedule for that day and say lord. Is there anything you need to change in this but you've stopped and then you started it and then you stopped and you started so let me give you a little tip. Find a special place that that's where or you meet with. God every day and make that your special place that when you go there i'm going to go spend fifteen minutes. God just being quiet thinking meditating meditating looking at dodge word praying and i don't care again. It might be a lazy boy chair in your living room and you get a cup of coffee and sit down. Sit back and get comfortable or you. Go out in your backyard. If you're an outdoor person and you look outside and hear the birds and sit under a tree or you know you might you might go. You just need to go where you can be alone where you can pray aloud. I highly recommend you pray aloud because when you pre when i pray when i closed my eyes i go to sleep so that when i talked to god i don't close my eyes and i don't think close my eyes and talk like this. I'd fall asleep. I talk aloud to god. I like to have a conversation. You should do that too so so you don't wanna be sitting in starbucks now. God let me tell you about. I wouldn't recommend starbucks. I talked to guy after the last service. He said my favorite place quiet. Time is sitting on on the toilet. Excuse me he said the bathroom is the only place it's quiet in my house. I got a lot of little kids fine. Okay whatever floats your boat you find the spot that becomes special and sacred. Did you know that this was jesus. Habit jesus like to go to a standard place where he could talk to the father for god. The father notices verse up here on the screen. Luke twenty two says this jesus went out as usual all to the mount of olives to pray notice he went out as usual that means it was his habit. It was his custom. He liked to go. I've been to this garden on on on the mount of where's there's a grove of olive trees. He liked to go there and that's where he would have his quiet time. You need to choose a special place ace to a you meet god every day now. Here's the thing the more time you spend with god the more you're going to become like him. The more time you spend reading the bible and aw jesus the more you're going to learn his love his patients his piece his character in your life. The bible tells us that moses spent so much time time with god that one time is up on mount sinai when he's getting the ten commandments and he had spent months alone with god up on this mountain when he came down dan he spent so much time with god he literally the bible says the people said he glowed he had a presence about him that actually glowed he'd been so much spent so much time with god and for a while he wore a veil to kind of hide this this glow now the next says this. We don't have to worry about that second corinthians three recess. All of us have had that removed. We don't have to wear a veil so that we can be mirrors that brightly reflect the glory of the lord and as the spirit of the lord works within us as god's spirit works within you day after day we become there's that word third calling we become more and more like him and reflect collect his glory even more now. Let's just circle a couple of things i circle the phrase more and more that means that in this race to maturity to become i'm a woman of god to become a man of god to become the person god made you to be not what your parents but what god wanted to be it takes time. It's it's more and more in other words sequential. It is systematic. It is daily. It's one step at a time. It's a process becoming implies that it it doesn't happen instantly. You see all of us. What we want is a quick fix in our life. We want one thing that'll take away all of our problems and all of our hang up all of our fears instantly so we go around looking for that one book to read. That'll change my life that one message to listen to on a c._d. That'll change my life. We want to take a pill find. A magic bullet haven't experienced a boom. It's just going to instantly transfer me and all of a sudden is love serve. Everybody nobody makes me impatient anymore. I'm just cool copacetic and i just i'm like jesus basis. It ain't going to happen. It doesn't happen that way. There is no there's instant mashed potatoes okay. There's there's instant coffee. There is no instant spiritual maturity. It just doesn't happen. It takes time one step at a time time and god as i said it's never in a hurry so as i spend time focusing on jesus every day it's as we become more and more like liked him and then it says we reflect his glory circle that word reflect if you spend time with god you're going to start reflecting the the qualities of god his love joy peace patience. This reflection is actually has a biological basis in your brain. Scientists have discovered that inside your brain you have what are called mirror neurons lot of study being done on this right now mirror your neurons and what the mirror neurons do is. They allow you to feel what other people feel when you look at them. It's why you're able to empathize empathize and sympathize with people and so for instance. If i were to yon right now half the church would start yawning in fact me just saying the word yawn. Make some of you wanna gone and your your mirror. Neurons are firing. That's why when you go to a movie and you see somebody in a scary situation. Your a body gets scared. The mirror neurons are firing on your body and when you see somebody win a game and they're celebrating. You feel that same same joy. You didn't even play the game but you felt that because your mirror neurons are enjoying the wind that that guy just had allows you identified and when somebody's sad sad you feel sad and if you're watching a movie and somebody gets kissed you feel that you feel good if you what's it like to feel loved to feel cherish embraced those who your mirror neurons at work when you spend time with god and you focus on him your your mirror neurons began to reflect god's love god's qualities in your life. You tend to see things the way he sees it and you become come more and more like him. 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R. institute dot org and find us on facebook and twitter. You're listening to the heartland. News feed in radio network at live hot land-use fee dot com. This stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by so follow us on facebook twitter and instagram's sixty six sixty six forty forty. Your future lies in sixty six forty sixty six books by forty authors and yet we now discover ever gets an integrated message system from outside our time domain welcome to sixty six forty the ministry outreach of cornea house and coin the institute today's bible teachers dr chuck mesler connecting the bible to your life and the world around you in today's study dr mr begins his teaching on the gospel of john chapter ten well. I want to welcome you to our tenth session of exploring the gospel of john and it as you know it is our custom never to go into the word of god without prayer. Let's have the lord at a company and so our hearts father. We thank you for this time together and we thank you for this very special word from the apostle john we pray father that through your holy spirit you would open our hearts and lives to this very special volume by such a beloved apostle. We pray father. You would help us understand what you have here for us is that we can apply to our lives in this day as we commit this hour and ourselves into your hands in the name of your shula precious lord orden savior amen indeed so we are in the gospel of john tenth session and it happens to be we'll be covering chapter ten in in this session so now you may recall from the last session that that the a a beggar born blind was excommunicated which is and so this is this is really continuation from the last few verses of chapter nine so this is also known as the famous good shepherd discourse and so this phrase is so well known and and many of us have heard the good shepherd discourse so often we run into the danger of taking it for granted and so one of the things you might just do is stop and refocus and try to listen to it for a fresh to really listen to what jesus saying in this unusual passage and also we need to understand the context here is the pharisees were appointed to be the shepherds of israel so this is a double edged sword that we're dealing with here and they were shepherds video yet described as strangers in verse five and they're called thieves and robbers verse eight and maybe the most indictable hi links in versus twelve and thirteen. I remember my dear friend. <hes> water martin who's very well one of the most published a christian ministries this result in his lifetime but he always threatened the christian publishing industry was she knew well for all those years that he was threatened to write a book about christian christian publishing and he never to their relief. You never pulled it off but he was always he always called and the title is going to be the hirelings and so that the sort of the flavor we have here in this passage to the shepherd references are all through the bible. It's amazing how that the concept and that use is pervasive throughout the these scripture and your notes. You'll have some places you can follow up on encourage you to dig through those notes notes and like an eagle thirty four and other places affected me when i read the whole chapter thirty four he can in that regard now we speak of types of course examples what have you <hes> shepherd types actually start in with able he was he was the first we end and of course he was slain by wicked hands and jacob jacob took care of the flock and we find this concept of a shepherd off from the very very beginning and joe even the incredible career of joseph joseph becoming prime minister of the world started when he was feeding the flock and moses of course water protected and guided and david himself not only was a shepherd he jeopardized his life for the sheep and so we were very menial task is actually edified divide by the incredible actual credible histories guide us it and it seemed appropriate when you make a list of these examples that the six should be the opposite because the only physical description of christ in the bible in my opinion to my knowledge is in the zachariah eleven last week versus physically described the only physical glimpse we get of this debt this destined person that will eventually bring in the final curtain appropriately number six on the list six being the number of man and so forth and of course that allows you to put seven as the great shepherd the good shepherd the chief shepherd our lord jesus christ and those the three terms in blazoned in three psalms before we're through you'll understand that psalm twenty two twenty three and twenty four are known as the shepherd psalm each one very different than the others and yet all of them of course presenting us with her chief shepherd and zone now the sheep fold in some of these things is not heaven when he says sheep fold some he's talking about judaism because the cut in the immediate context cities dealing with is localized as judas and so. Let's let's remember that and now the messiah properly entered that sheep fold to and you know it's amazing you know we just got back from a conference in auckland. Where featured we had three sessions. The first session was all about the history of israel and the second session was all about the next day was about the church and we call both of them the product heirs because both of them they have very different origins different destinies but each one of them has generally not succeeded in what they were called to israel didn't and that's what stephen so in summary in the book of acts that we study seven one most entering summaries of the whole old testament by stephen to san adrian itself and and then as we look at the history of the church we realize it's even to this day characterized by all kinds of heresies and misunderstandings and and that's our challenge of course to sort through these things and it's interesting that got always does salvage remnant in each case but getting back to judaism here. The messiah june is improperly. He was born in bethlehem. He was born under the law. We find from glaciers for he was circumcised. The eighth day as the law prescribed and of course he was even presented to god in the temple luc too. You know you know stories so let's just jump right into chapter ten recognizing that we're going right. The first eighteen versus will deal of course with the good shepherd aspect of our our messiah so starts in verse one barely barely i say unto you. You know that's a phrase. Let me comment briefly when jesus want to emphasize something he'd i'd say i say unto you such and so if he really wanna emphasize he'd say verily i say unto you such and so if you wanna put three underlines there he'd say verily verily verily i say unto you or amen amen same equivalent if you will okay so he starts right off here barely stand you he that interests not by the door art into the sheep fold but climate up some other way the same is a thief in robert and he intervened by the door is the shepherd of the sheep now. Let's take that little idiom for granted. The tabernacle was designed with one door. Noah's was arc had one door and who closed the door on those arc. The lord did and the illusion here with the tabernacle same thing only someone that was entitled could enter through that door anyone that didn't wasn't entitled was in effect a thief or a robber or what have you and the word sheep here we take for granted now. Many of you know more about sheep than i'll ever learn. I understand that but let's focus a little bit. Who are eh sheep of course questions you have to ask. You does acting like a sheep. Make you a sheep standing in the garage. It does not make you a car right. Behaving like a christian doesn't make you a christian and we understand that obviously what does the scripture say about cheap. What do we know about sheeps. They described them as clean animals now laugh at that because you know more about shape that their propensity insidious stay cleaning one of them but speaking medically that is it's defy defined as as a clean animal. They're ritually pure and limited. It's eleven and elsewhere. They are also harmless dubs and indeed. That's that's colorful. We also helpless jesus without me. You can do nothing and that's certainly i mean we discover his referring to us. His sheep is rather descriptive because i understand a sheep. We're not very bright and so. I think i are one. We also understand that not very bright but if there's a hole in the fence they'll find it and and that's that describes it also seems to describe <hes> stu and they're dependent and they are prone to wander and but they are obviously useful and so that's worth but moving on here he jesus continues to him the reporter openness and the sheep here is voice and he calls his own sheep by name and lead them out and when he put forth his own sheep he he goes before them and the sheep follow him for they know his voice. That's very interesting and this is probably one place. I can share with you khalif. I hold that i can't find the bible when the rupture occurs. We're going to hear a shout voice of the arcane so forthright. I i personally believe what you will hear will be your name and we will recognize his voice obviously so anyway moving on on here continued types shepherds puerta of course here could be considered a john this spirit baptism holy spirit. Those are all possibilities. We'll talk a lot about john before we're all through and but rarely say that not by the door into the sheep fold climate some other way the same thief robber but he entertained by the door is the shepherd of the sheep and him the porter opened up the sheep hear his voice and he called his own sheep by name and leads them out and and he when he put forth his own sheep he goes before them the sheep follow him for they know his voice or recap and a stranger will they not follow but will flee from him for they know not the voice of strangers and he's describing a characteristic of the sheep but that's one one of these things. I don't think we can apply to church because a tragic true false teachers they do get a following if people aren't careful from and that's of course a whole subject another study but they say it's not possible to deceive the elect in that sense you apply that because that is a a indication indication of matthew twenty four twenty four if it were if it were possible on a chrysler but it won't be possible so there is a level of protection if you will but the voice all of the father give she'll come to me and that's we had that back in chapter six and that is going to be encamped here in this chapter ten in another way for a whole other subject so i'll leave that a little bit later but it always voice so he's followed <hes> and we find examples of that with zacchaeus and he's called by name in luke nineteen and philip when he was seeking in the first chapter john and we're going to encounter in the next chapter one of the most famous incidents where lazarus response to being called out of the grave and we're always amused by that when we have jesus called lazarus come forth and many people don't realize the reason you call them by name otherwise they all would if they he just wanted to one but we'll get to that next night but and then of course mary recognized jesus in the garden by his voice she apparently thought he was the gardener gardner and his whole study is why is it that they didn't recognize him after the resurrection that i married didn't the guys on the amandus road. It didn't that afternoon and there's a whole study about that that will deal with before we're through with the study of john. That'll come up later and john so now number six excavated progress here. This parable spe gs him but they understood not what things they were speaking to them. Species species spoke parables then said jeeze under them again fairly early i sent you. I am the door the sheep they weren't getting. He said it again and the word parable well. Here is a mistranslation by the way there are. No parables in the gospel of john and there are twenty seven of them. The gospel luke's folks. We're so used to parables but in this particular case that greek term isn't really a parable. It's really a wayside saying or proverb in that sense and so for what it's worth small point but because we're talking a lot about parables elsewhere because i am the door of the sheeps are we dealing with an identity and and it's interesting to realize that the tabernacle was outside the camp god is outside. Organizations is the underlying thought all the ever came before me are thieves and robbers but the sheep did not hear them. That's jesus. That's not my summary. That's jesus summary in verse verse eight and it's a some of the most severe denunciations in the scriptures are reserved for false teachers. The most vituperative language is doing in that direction and some of the most earnest warnings we find in the new testament deal with false else teachers false doctrines and the language and the implications are obviously substantial the word thief here red cup. This implies stealth the word robber. Let's this is implies. Violence incorrectly translated stephen a couple of places and combined with cupcakes. It means kill and destroy so i don't think we have to get into the subtleties of the vocabulary. We one verse nine. I am the door by me. If any man enter in he shall it'll be saved and go in and out and find pasture now it'd be saved but gain access and also in other words that includes freedom. It's interesting that the freedoms that we inherited in the new testament are subject to agreed theological debate but the freemen christ is phenomenal and that's why my wife has a great little plaque hanging or ministry in idaho. It's <hes> in the essentials unity. In the non essentials liberty christians are the ones that organize their farming squads and circle so very self destructive tendencies that we rent a go. I mean i am the door says he said that twice here in verse eleven onto the ark of noah and in the tabernacle both so that architectures is relevant and shall be saved and be safe and sound is what the term really means and yet it also speaks of freedom and the in nehemiah three the sheep gate was the one that didn't have locks or or a bar zone so it's a very useful idiom in that regard but we'll just keep moving here zion the door if by me any man enter and shelby save and shall go in and out and find pasture by me he says not just get in but by me and so he's he's alluding here to a supernatural result and of course we know for many passages and it's going to be hammered in john fifteen when we get to it without christ we can do nothing and it is giving him to believe on him. Philippians reminds us but we only can only if the father draw him and we're very engaged that before this chapters over also also and and also you always have the i love the the renderings we see them in sunday school so if we take for granted probably but the idea of showing the savior with the lamb over shoulders carrying him in his arms or whatever so the crisis the only way to god. We don't have to remember that here. I i am the doors by me that he's the he has the power to impart any man that's gentle which is a shock to the pharisees. They haven't gotten into that yet and so enter in a simple activate he shall be saved and so and you're gonna save from three things he's received from the penalty of sin the power of sin and the presence of sin and will explain that before the chapters over also and and go in and out going in their freedom freedom there is a freedom from bondage and the most critical bondage is about we'll talk about being delivered from the power of sin he was he was delivered we delivered from the penalty of sin by the cross but there's more to it that and we'll deal with that before the days over two and so in find pasture and of course he's are sustainable and this actually echoes what you're saying. You're echoes a prayer of moses. I was intrigued to note in numbers. We're twenty seven and moses speaking lord saying let the lord the god of spirits flesh settlement over the congregation which may go out before them which may go in before them which which may lead them out and in which may bring them in that the congregation lord be not <hes> sheep which had no shepherd. I couldn't help but pick this up because does that. Idiom goes back to even moses praying back there so it's very timely echoed here in the ministry of our king but moving on the sees no <music> send me here he ships he shifts to singular. Those thieves before was a plural all term. If you will here we've got a singular the thief vif come if not but for to steal to kill and destroy i am come that they might have life and that they might have it more abundantly and so he's alluding here to a fall shepherd and specifically the personification being none other than satan himself. I am the good shepherd the good shepherd given given his life for the sheep. There's more here than the english grammar tells you by the way because i'm the good shepherd that's enough. The word college is good. You seventy six times as it turns out to be surprisingly consistent in the bible. The first mention of a word is usually among the most. It's relevant when you when you discover something. Simple is very important in academia to give it a fancy label so they call this the principle of the first pension okay so but it's interesting the word love where does it i appear in the bible okay and at first appears strangely enough when abraham offers isaac in genesis trying to many people are realizing that and so anyway this is the first mention of the word good good because he's the good shepherd and if i actually the first mission which was wine in john chapter to contact us me and okay and he's he's obviously israel shepherd and so forth we are the sheep of his pasture and so on but there's another thing here give his life for the sheep. The word for epa war in your english doesn't catch the meeting. That is the word in the greek the where he gave his life for the sheep. He gave his life in the place of the sheep. It's a substitution airy concept which is missed in the anyway. Just say for the preposition in english doesn't really capture all that the greek does okay for what it's worth and he lays down his life. We see that in four versus not not as a martyr for truth or moral example. No no no no many martyrs for truth or people who've died as is an example to others no no he designed for those people to be effective it had effect for them is the point the different concept here. He lays down his life not for people in general for his sheep specifically not the goats and you could dig that out from scripture and calvin us. We'll have have a field day with that but we'll go on here okay but he that is an hireling and not the shepherd whose own the sheep are not seeing if the wolf gummy and and leave the sheep and fifth and the wolf catches them and scattered sheep the higher leave flipped because he is a hireling and care if not for the sheep and so that's the that's fact pets probably the primary difference and so so the hirelings term. Here's the unfaithful shepherds as mercenaries mary's if you will they're going about that. They scattered no sheep of christ can ever perish we're going and get into that too through. Guy is not a horse thief because he steals a horse. He steals a horse because he's safe. That's the concept up here. There's a fundamental it's being revealed. It's not okay so the he must be christian before he can really live christian life life then. You're not a christian because you lead a christian life. We do not become shaped by following the shepherd. It's the opposite if you will okay and of course characters always revealed by crisis as sailor knows a sailor's characters out you find it in a storm not in a sunny day and it was very interesting in world war two that the united states navy before world war two had a habit when the weather was good they they would go out maneuvers. Who's rained. They'd cancel the japanese did just the opposite was good weather. They gave the guys are in our when there was a storm they went to to see and we didn't really learn that until later in the war and we got to the point we could if we knew the weather patterns we have satellite to them but we know where we could find the japanese fleet because they made weather and storms their ally and it was interesting to discover and that's one thing that able to be we you took advantage of history. It's interesting anyway enough of that. Storm reveals a sailor and that's exactly what paul deals with when he gives the final briefing to the asian asian elders next chapter twenty passage might want to study and so i'm the good shepherd and know my sheep in 'em known of mine no my sheep and that one of the heaviest passages in the gospels matthew seven verse twenty two and twenty three were come people think they're saved in jesus. I never ever knew you and heavy stuff heavy stuff and it's interesting also to notice when it says i'm going to shepherd no my sheet. The types here our reverend joseph moses david they all ended their father sheep and jesus going to put himself in that mode before this chapter chapters over that the sheep that he's attending are the ones given to him by the father and that's a dimension. He's going to train very heavily before we're through as a father even so no i the father i lay down my life for the sheep and again we have that same word uh-huh for not merely on behalf of but in the stead of there's a difference special use there in the greek hooper now as as we talk on these topics one of these need to be aware of and most of your study bibles. We'll have a footnote of this of this site somewhere that will acquaint you with the shepherd. Psalms is three three of them well known for that purpose. Some twenty two talks about the suffering saver and it's so precise now understand it was written seven hundred years before or crucifixion was invented victims invented by the persians widely adopted by the romans better relatively recent mechanism but this describes the crucifixion in christ in such detail that there are articles in the american medical journal journal that highlight the cause of death from the details in psalm twenty two and for what it's worth and so now so so it's some people see this relates to the good shepherd of the first eighteen of chapter ten. That's why it's here in this study. The living shepherd is psalm twenty three. The lord is my shepherd. I shall not want people who've never heard anything at all. No the twenty third psalm you've been listening to sixty six forty the ministry outreach of kwena house and coin institute today's as bible teacher was dr chuck miller teaching through the gospel of john for a complete listing of resources available. 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