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How They Did It: Exposing the 2020 Steal in Wisconsin

The Charlie Kirk Show

02:06 min | 4 months ago

How They Did It: Exposing the 2020 Steal in Wisconsin

"70 special counsel gableman, Wisconsin election commission left a trail of victims. There are 92,000 nursing home residents in Wisconsin, and the Zuckerberg 5 cities in all of those counties, those nursing homes, report a voting rate of a 100%, 100% turnout. Welcome to the Soviet Union, play cut 70. These were not academic exercises. These were real world and had real world consequences and left a trail of victims. We've only been able we've been able to interview a number of people. But we got 92,000 residents in continuing care facilities in Wisconsin and in the Zuckerberg 5 cities. We've been able to look at the numbers and the Zuckerberg 5 cities in all of those counties. Those nursing homes reported a voting rate of a 100% anywhere in between 95% and a 100%. He continues in cut 69 saying that Facebook CEOs $8.8 million into Wisconsin Democrat cities was election bribery in violation of the law cut 69. And one of the important truths that has to be mentioned is recited in chapter one of our report, and that is that the center for tech and civic life, $8 million 800,000 Zuckerberg planned grant with the cities of Milwaukee, Madison, Racine, Kenosha, and Green Bay. Facially violates the Wisconsin law prohibiting election bribery. Cut 71 is an example, just one example of many as we theorized of an elderly person who was taken advantage of and had ballots cast in their name in the 2020 election. Now, some of you might say, Charlie, this is not enough to potentially tilt the election. I want to remind you that Wisconsin was decided by just thousands of votes, especially in these key areas. If you subtract the illegally administered

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Phill Kline of the Amistad Project Gives an Update on the Fight for Election Integrity

The Charlie Kirk Show

01:59 min | 5 months ago

Phill Kline of the Amistad Project Gives an Update on the Fight for Election Integrity

"Law with us as Phil Klein from the amistad project Phil. Welcome back to our program Phil. I want to compliment you. You have been on the case since the day after the election. In 2020, you have been covering this. You have been unafraid to tell the truth about every single one of the dynamics surrounding this. I just want to compliment you and congratulate you because you talked about for quite some time. There is some action that was going to happen in Wisconsin. Tell us the latest from Wisconsin. Thank you, Charlie, and thank you for all that you do. Wisconsin and the decision of the court confirms what we've been saying for some time now. And that is that private monies of lifted who left this interest hijacked government campaign offices to get government involved in partisan effort to benefit mister Biden and they did that by violating the laws. Unilateral decisions and here in Wisconsin, it was at the behalf of the left leaning Wisconsin election commission who worked with Zuckerberg and all these private interests and all these nonprofits to inject efforts for the government office to target by voters in the democratic urban core and turn out those voters. And it didn't just happen in Wisconsin it happened in Michigan in Georgia in Pennsylvania and all the swing states. And the drop boxes, the judge says, we're illegal in Wisconsin. But guess what? Zuckerberg money and let this money put drop boxes illegally in the urban core. So in these Democrats, strongholds, you can hardly walk down the street without voting. Meanwhile, through leftist governors and others in the swing states, they were making it harder to vote in person and harder to vote in Republican strongholds or rural areas by shutting down in person polling places claiming COVID. So the government got involved in the Biden campaign in 2020. And the planning to do

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A Wisconsin Judge Rules Absentee Ballot Drop Boxes Are Not Allowed Under State Law

Mike Gallagher Podcast

01:20 min | 5 months ago

A Wisconsin Judge Rules Absentee Ballot Drop Boxes Are Not Allowed Under State Law

"Important story of the day. And unless you read the federalist or a couple of conservative sites or listen to a show like mine, you won't hear this story. It's a huge story and you need to keep it in mind. If you're losing hope, walk a shock county, Wisconsin, circuit, court judge Michael boran ruled that there is no statutory authority. To allow the state of Wisconsin to use drop boxes and ballot harvesting. In fact, the judge ruled that the drop boxes in the ballot harvesting violate state law. The Wisconsin elections commission, which is under fire for allegedly bending and even openly violating state law to give Biden an edge, authorized the surge in drop boxes, the judge said that they had no lawful authority to do so. So when you say nothing's being done about election integrity, I say this with love. I say this, I say this with respect. You're wrong. You're wrong.

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Trump files lawsuit challenging Wisconsin election results

AP News Radio

00:46 sec | 1 year ago

Trump files lawsuit challenging Wisconsin election results

"Hi Mike Rossi a reporting president trump files a lawsuit challenging election results in Wisconsin president Donald Trump hasn't given up on overturning the results of the presidential vote in Wisconsin trump filed a lawsuit today seeking to disqualify more than two hundred twenty one thousand ballots cast in the states to most democratic counties that walkie county and Dane county trump asked the Wisconsin Supreme Court to take the case directly and the court has given Wisconsin's governor Tony Evers a Democrat and unusually tight deadline of eight thirty PM tonight to respond to the lawsuit conservatives hold a four three majority on the Wisconsin Supreme Court on Monday YVR is at the chairwoman of the Wisconsin elections commission certified Democrat Joe Biden as the winner of the state's ten electoral college votes hi Mike Rossio

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Wisconsin recount reaffirms Biden's win

San Diego's Morning News with Ted and LaDona

00:29 sec | 1 year ago

Wisconsin recount reaffirms Biden's win

"Getting more votes after a partial recount in Wisconsin. The recount did not find evidence of fraud as President Trump it claimed and even widened, binds victory in the state by additional 87 votes. The Democratic leader of the Wisconsin Elections Commission said she would certify Biden's victory today. Republican on the commission, however, called the certification premature and said they should wait until the commission meets on Tuesday. President Trump tweeted over the weekend that he plans to file a lawsuit over the matter.

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"wisconsin election commission" Discussed on WTMJ 620

WTMJ 620

03:04 min | 1 year ago

"wisconsin election commission" Discussed on WTMJ 620

"Or downtown Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Number one stop. We're breaking news, Weather traffic and the Packers, Brewers and Buck's news radio WTMJ Milwaukee And they don't want it is 41 degrees tonight alot of 40 some showers or ending. It'll be cloudy and chilly this evening from the WTMJ breaking news Center. I'm Kevin Wells. Official recount. Results from Milwaukee County are expected to be submitted by Friday, according to county clerk George Christiansen. He says counters have the Thanksgiving holiday off before coming in on Friday to tie up all the loose ends. Yes. So what we do is report the results out and then transmit those results to the Wisconsin Election Commission and then from there They do their business, Christiansen says. There's about 60 more ballots to be counted. The number of covert 19 infections in Wisconsin is still ticking downward, the state Department of Health Services reporting 5469 confirmed cases today. That number has been declining since last Saturday. The death toll in Wisconsin sits at 3178. State health officials call the next three days critical and controlling covert 19. They're urging people to keep their Thanksgiving Day plans to those who live under the same roof, Governor Tony Evers tells WTMJ Steve Skip et. They know why the number of positive cases have been going up people gathering together and that's why you know, we we talk about it wearing a mask, but we also talk about safer at home, especially During Thanksgiving. Nearly 40% of Americans are planning to gather in groups of 10 or more during the holiday either says that could be detrimental. On Tuesday, Wisconsin reported its highest single day death toll from the covert covert 19 pandemic. Boozy black Friday tradition will take a different look this year, third of background 2011 and we've been doing it ever since. The Corona virus pandemic, however, has different plans. Lakefront Brewery founder Rust Clich says they're still brewing up their black Friday. Special batch. Is that having a party for all of our friends here, what you can't do with we'd send it out to all of our accounts, and they will be selling the beer on on Black Friday and who knows? This may start. A whole new tradition will be interesting to see how the sales all go into the stores. And if that's the case, maybe we need to do that more years. Mike Spaulding WTMJ Museeuw study that says participation High school sports is not associated with the increase of covert. 19 is now being criticized by a group of local doctors, people of false sense of safety and security and public health consultant Melissa You, Glyn tells WTMJ, there were several limitations and how the UW School of Medicine collected its data such as having teens. Self reports. We didn't have any method for validating what they were saying or the experiences they have you, Glenn says past research into Jim used during the pandemic shows a high risk for any indoor winter sport. We are gonna see greater risk of transmission and indoor environments. Rusty Milburn WTMJ News. Several doctors at the university have commented on the report, saying it needs to go through peer reviews to validate its findings. Sports traffic and weather are next WTMJ news time Coming up on 8043 3,000,003 million.

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Wisconsin recount gets off to a rough start as Elections Commission repeatedly clashes

Vicki McKenna

05:25 min | 1 year ago

Wisconsin recount gets off to a rough start as Elections Commission repeatedly clashes

"That the Wisconsin Elections Commission called a meeting Used the Trump recount petition in Wisconsin. To make an attempt to alter the recount manual in Wisconsin to undermine the trump recount petition. You cannot make this stuff up. This really happened? It went on for hours last night. Our PW Republican party. Wisconsin Chairman Andrew Hit is on the phone with me right now. In fact, seeing your tweet is what made me know it was going on. And we just kept waiting to see what was going to happen. Ultimately, it was a tie vote on the W. E C not to change the manual, which means the manual will stay the same. But this is the kind of crap That that the partisans on the W. E C and the partisan staffers on the WBC we're willing to try toe undo the the attempts that that President Trump was making just a recount our state It is, you know, one of the most outrageous things I've ever seen. Vicky. I mean, they get the president's petition for recount, see the argument that he is going to make And then call a meeting to change it. A meeting that had 24 hours notice they gave the recount manual to the commissioner's just three or four hours. 38 page manual. No red line. Why would you do that? There's only one reason because they know that we're onto something. They know that they have to change it or or we are going to make so much progress. Delivering Wisconsin for president. I'll tell you something, though you're exactly right. The reason you pull out the manual one that you haven't looked at it however long and simply throw it in front of everybody without having even read over it again. You're basically saying, what can we do in this manual to undo this petition, and it wasn't just after the petition was after $3 million Was wired from the campaign to pay for the recount. So they had the money. They had the petition, and then they were going to try to undo the petition through the allegedly nonpartisan W. E. C. And it took six hours six hours to finally come up with a 3 to 3 decision, with all the Democrats saying, of course. We should change the manual to undo the Trump petition and the Republicans on I I imagine it was somewhat difficult for some of them to reach the conclusion, saying, I think we should probably keep it the same. This is that you know. Eric Bob had a great tweet when he said the one thing that is absolutely assured in Wisconsin is that the left are always stone cold partisans, The Democrats always behave like stone cold partisans. And the Republicans behave like statesmen. Well, you know, I mean, when we saw that yesterday, we saw the manual come out when we immediately started to scour it, trying to figure out what had been changed. No red line changes. And when we find it, I mean, it was just such a shocker. But you're right. I mean, we have got to fight. We've got to fight harder. I'm grateful for the Republicans and the votes that they cast last night. Thank goodness that they didn't allow this to go forward after after Like you said, the president pays $3 million and then they're going to change the rules of the recount. Just Hour after he filed the petition. Yeah. Do you know who did this? I mean, this it bears an important investigation, and you are saying that the manual itself was already changed before the meeting was called. The manual was already changed. And and you in the Trump. People got hold of the manual and notice the changes. That's right. I mean, it's a 38 page manual. I mean, it's not like there's a lot of pictures in that. So 38 solid pages of this manual. No red line changes. Um, you know, think about it. If you're commissioner, how outrageous is that is that that they would give this to you expect you to vote on it and not identify the Redlands Red line changes. Even more ridiculous is you know if you go back a few days, I don't even think they were planning on having a meeting. They were going to just do these changes, but the commissioner's insisted that they have a meeting. They imagine that they just done the changes and we didn't have a meeting. Well, we would be tell you where it would be right now. We would be in court getting that fixed and we would win because clearly it was outrageous. It was out of bounds. It's something they can't do. This whole year from April 7th election on We have seen time and time again. The Democrats. They don't care what the law is. They don't care what it's written. They want to change it. They want to change it through the court system and activist judges and we have to stand up for the rule of law. Oh, for heaven sakes. He knew a man I mean. They were actually sitting around, saying, Jeez, I think we should change the recount rules right? They would have done it in the time after the April election, and before the November election, not after they got $3 million from the Trump campaign in a petition that allow them to alter the recount manual, just perfectly toe under the

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Trump campaign seeks partial recount in Wisconsin

Our American Stories

00:31 sec | 1 year ago

Trump campaign seeks partial recount in Wisconsin

"News. The Wisconsin Elections Commission has unanimously approved the recount, which will begin Friday, Republicans on the commission argued. Extra scrutiny of these ballots are needed given claims there may have been some absentee ballots sent out unlawfully. Remembers like and Jacobs took offense to that. I am shocked and offended that you have implied in any way that clerks in Madison and Milwaukee have sent out thousands of unrequested balance. The five hour plus meeting was mostly focused on language in their recount manual, which was

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Trump pursues recount of 2 liberal Wisconsin counties

Phil's Gang

00:19 sec | 1 year ago

Trump pursues recount of 2 liberal Wisconsin counties

"I'm to Maguire. President Trump is pursuing a recount of two liver Wisconsin catties for the presidential election. The recounts in Milwaukee and Dane counties could begin as soon as Thursday and must be done by December. 1st Dean Knudson, a Republican member of the Wisconsin Elections Commission, said President Trump raised quote significant legal questions that have never been

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Trump campaign transfers $3 million to Wisconsin for recount

The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell

04:41 min | 1 year ago

Trump campaign transfers $3 million to Wisconsin for recount

"After the two thousand sixteen presidential election green party candidate. Jill stein spent three point five million dollars on a statewide recount in wisconsin which then increased donald trump's total by one hundred thirty one votes. Donald trump called that recount a scam and called on voters to accept the results of the election today. The trump campaign wired three million dollars to the wisconsin election commission to pay for a recount of ballots. In just two of the state's counties the two most democratic counties milwaukee county and dane county joe biden beat donald trump in those two counties by a total of three hundred sixty four thousand two hundred ninety eight votes and joe biden. Beat donald trump in the state of wisconsin by twenty thousand five hundred sixty five votes today. George christianson and scott mcdonnell the clerks for milwaukee and dane counties. Said this about recounts. I'm not surprised that they selected dean and counties they certainly didn't select them for a regularities they sunk to them because they're democratic strongholds. Of course a so frustrating. You know we were trained georgia and i trained for a year and a half or more for this kind of this information from the kremlin That's what we were trying to figure out. We're gonna try to mitigate that information on it out a lot of these bo- never thought it would be coming from from ourselves from from within the united states joining us. Now is wisconsin attorney general. Josh kaul general call. Can you tell us what you expect. In this recount process and whether it will lead to any possible of election litigation trying to overturn the results. Well i the recount itself is virtually certain to confirm what we know. Which is that. Joe biden scott's by about twenty thousand votes as you mentioned before we have recount for years ago and the change in net votes for the candidates about one hundred and thirty one votes. We haven't after twenty eleven states court races. Well and kind. Statewide recounts are in the hundreds. Nothing even approaching twenty thousand boats and the trump campaign does seem to be a little confused about how this process works because in re competition they raised a variety of legal claims but the time for legal claims relating to lose the election is well before the election. There's even a doctrine that says you can't our plans to close to election because you need to have certainty about rules are now bring those arguments. After voting. his happened after ballots have been cast after about twenty thousand more. Wisconsin voted for. Joe biden voted for donald trump. It's too late for those kinds of challenges. So will this delay the certification of results in wisconsin. It shouldn't recount needs to be done by december first and that's the deadline for certifying results. So absence some sort of order or something else that interferes with process moving forward certification will have to happen on december first so it sounds like the trump campaign believes that this is not just counting votes. But it's some kind of evidentiary discovery of some sort in which they might at the end of the process. End up with a legal claim. Is that even possible. If all we're doing is counting votes. That's what they're suggesting you know. But that's not how the rejoin process works as you said a recount is about recounting the votes. It's about confirming that. The numbers were accurate. They may very well. File a legal challenge as the recounts going on or at the end of it but any kind of like that is certain to fail. We've seen the trump campaign's success in court post-election and they keep losing case after case in the reason is because their claims have no merit and if they were challenging staunton I'm confident that it would be swiftly rejected courts so attorney general. Call knowing everything you know about this The vote count as it is the recount process as it will work. Wisconsin's history with recounts the likely on numerical changes as a result of recount Would you say tonight that. We know who the winner of the state of wisconsin is. Yeah there's no question about who's won the state of wisconsin. Donald trump is basically the equivalent position. Somebody who bought lottery tickets but he's Ticket after the lottery has happened. It's it's over and we know who has won this election.

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Trump campaign to request recount of two Wisconsin counties

Mark Belling

00:30 sec | 1 year ago

Trump campaign to request recount of two Wisconsin counties

"President Trump has requested a recount in Wisconsin. In just two counties. The Trump campaign will request a recount on Lee in Milwaukee and Dane the states to most populous counties, where a combined total of nearly 800,000 votes were cast. The Wisconsin Elections Commission has received a wire transfer from the Trump campaign for $3 million and said the campaign has told staff Recount petition will be filed today. Bob Hague, Wisconsin Radio

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Trump campaign beats deadline with payment for partial Wisconsin recount

Bloomberg Markets

00:26 sec | 1 year ago

Trump campaign beats deadline with payment for partial Wisconsin recount

"Is seeking a partial recount in Wisconsin Trump campaign says it has wired the $3 million needed to count the ballots again in the two heavily Democratic counties that surround the cities of Milwaukee and Madison. Wisconsin Elections Commission had set a statewide recount would cost close to $8 million. The Trump campaign had until today to decide whether to seek a recount. President elect Joe Biden is projected to have won Wisconsin by more than 20,000 votes. A

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Trump campaign beats deadline with payment for partial Wisconsin recount

Morning News with Manda Factor and Gregg Hersholt

00:15 sec | 1 year ago

Trump campaign beats deadline with payment for partial Wisconsin recount

"Legal challenges in the election Moments ago, the Wisconsin Elections Commission announcing they've received $3 million from the Trump campaign. That's a signal the campaign Game plans to file a petition calling for a recount The deadline later today in the state drugmaker Fizer

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Trump campaign would have to pay nearly $8 million for Wisconsin recount

Mark Levin

00:39 sec | 1 year ago

Trump campaign would have to pay nearly $8 million for Wisconsin recount

"Of Wisconsin says the Trump campaign will need to pay nearly $8 million for a vote recount. They asked for Wisconsin Elections Commission says it's ready for a recount, but that first it needs $7.9 Million from the Trump campaign recount cost estimates from the state's 72 counties that are four times higher than Green Party candidate Jill Stein's recount in 2016, the state's elections chief, Meghan Wolf, saying the increase was driven by expenses related to conducting a recount during the coronavirus. Pandemic counties have until today to certify election results, leaving the president 24 hour window to officially request to recount Jeff Mona's So.

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What are the controversies in the swing state counts?

KSFO Morning Show with Brian Sussman with Katie Green

00:41 sec | 1 year ago

What are the controversies in the swing state counts?

"Claims on social media like ballots were dumped in Michigan and that there were irregularities in Wisconsin. That Arizona was too close to call. But why hasn't Georgia been called Gabriel Sterling with the Georgia secretary of State's office defended the workers doing the counting 159 11 directors and employees were here the job of protecting democracy when you go to talk to them, they think about that. Think about the votes of every person in this room and around the country. Thes people are not involved in voter fraud. Wisconsin's elections commission said they're not aware of any irregularities, the mention Of some giant ballot dump in Michigan turned out to be a county data error that was quickly corrected. Joe

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Biden edges over Trump in Wisconsin

The Vegas Take

00:46 sec | 1 year ago

Biden edges over Trump in Wisconsin

"That Democrats Blue Wall released the Brady Fox News. It's not clear yet whether Joe Biden is taking back key parts of the Midwest, including Wisconsin, where Fox's Gelfman also is live. Lisa in the latest update here in Wisconsin, yesterday's election was anything What an incredible success that was the result of years of preparation and meticulously carefully. Wisconsin Elections Commission administrator Meggett Wolves, though an unofficial vote counts, not get announced in where Joe Biden leads President Trump by less than 1% Recount territory in Michigan. Biden also leads by a slim margin We're told in the unofficial total could be announced today. The Michigan secretary of state also says that Thousands of ballots are still outstanding. Lisa

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Kanye West Blocked From Wisconsin Ballot for Missing Deadline by 14 Seconds

Bloomberg Politics, Policy and Power

00:30 sec | 1 year ago

Kanye West Blocked From Wisconsin Ballot for Missing Deadline by 14 Seconds

"West will not be appearing on the Wisconsin ballot for president in November because he missed the deadline by 14 seconds. A judge ruled Friday night that the hip hop icon would not appear on the general election ballot. Come November, 4th Because he missed the five PM deadline on August, 4th Judge John Szarkowski said the clock rang five times at the moment. It hit five PM and equated it. Two o'clock hitting midnight West campaign argued until 501 PM to file it is arguing that the Wisconsin Elections commission interfered by locking the doors.

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Wisconsin Supreme Court says mailing of absentee ballots should be halted

John Rothmann

00:21 sec | 1 year ago

Wisconsin Supreme Court says mailing of absentee ballots should be halted

"Put absentee ballots on hold. The order comes as part of a lawsuit filed by Green Party presidential candidate Howie Hawkins. He claims the Wisconsin Elections Commission is keeping him off of the ballot. Kanye West is also trying to get on the ballot after the commission rejected him. Municipal clerks have until September 17th to mail ballot species. Ryan Burrow, the National Institutes of

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"wisconsin election commission" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

03:06 min | 2 years ago

"wisconsin election commission" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

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"wisconsin election commission" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

06:17 min | 2 years ago

"wisconsin election commission" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"Everything. There's a lot of confusion. We're no. Longer talking. We're talking about a clean set of papers that head address a on it. And the only missing piece of information here is, when did you move? there. Was No requirement that there be an early. Declaration of candidacy I don't believe there is. A we haven't been corrected by Mr Nick that. I mean, do you have to file a declaration of candidacy before circulating papers I, don't think. So you do not know because Akron will citizens could nominate someone who hasn't even decided yet whether they'd be willing to do it if they were nominated. And then at the end they the candidate looks at all over and can say, yeah, I'll do that I declare my candidacy. That's the order of this. It's pretty common in in in in nomination processes that you know people can be nominated. They haven't they haven't necessarily jumped all in yet I believe what our law says you have to file a declaration of candidacy probably before you and money. Or spend money over a certain amount. But I'm not sure that that's happened yet and that's not our balaguer. When I'm trying to get at is. I'm still swinging the bat to try to convince. Get, to get us to a majority that, hey, don't don't be fooled by that declaration of Canada's a part because there was no requirement that there'd be one address say. Only, that there'd be one at the end. So I don't think that's really what the argument is. The argument is. That had. There not been a challenge. Staff would've? Accepted the signatures. However. There is a challenge that says, the candidate under oath has sworn they live elsewhere. Here's a sworn statement under oath that says they live somewhere else than on those nominating papers. They have shifted the burden to say, Hey, you have sworn that you live somewhere. That's not on the papers. So now that presumptively means that the papers Iran. Because you swore you live somewhere else. So now the burden shifts back to the candidate to say, sorry, you're right. Let me clarify I had to addresses or three addresses or however many in your hypothetical they had. But when someone swears under oath, they live in one place and they submit papers that say they live somewhere else birdie the shift to them to show at the somewhere else was also where they live. But the Chairman Jacob. That's exactly my point. The burden didn't shift. There wasn't a burden ship there they had no stay had no obligation to disclose that I address only that it'd be accurate at the time that the in the papers and the papers as they were being signed that was their burden. I don't think there's clear and convincing evidence. They didn't do that right It got lulls hundreds of thousands. We know that she's sworn and she lived somewhere else. Like if she had gone into a deposition and said completely unrelated collections mission, I live somewhere else that would also be a valid reason to challenge the papers. So she said I don't live at the address my nominating papers. She's literally sworn that under Oh. That's enough for a challenge because the challenges are saying she's under oath. She doesn't live at that address her nominating papers. All she had to do was doing exactly what you just said, which is swear under oath I did. And I moved. But she didn't and all I'm saying is because we have a longstanding. Christine validity. That we have to presume that it was accurate and in fact, the burden shift hasn't happened. And that presumption still carries the day. In, less there's evidence to the contrary which it's not in place here. So there wasn't a burden ship. We have to presume that she lived there and I think that with the little bit of investigation we would find out that that is exactly what happened. Well but That's not on us to on her. That's not on us. It is on the candidate to do. Exactly that. And not on us to go like search out. Her obligations. And the thing is where you and I disagree as it's not that the declaration of candidacy didn't have to be file. It's that the evidence in front of this commission only verified evidence sworn statement. Under oath that she did not live at the address on the nominating neighbors. She Bite Up. But she has sworn under oath that she doesn't. Literally sworn under oath I live somewhere else that's enough to burden shift and go back to the other side to say okay now you gotta prove that you did. And for some reason, she didn't do that. So what was a declaration candidacy an affidavit? SMALL SMALL-CLAIMS CASE Deposition in a divorce it would have been sworn statement under oath that she lives somewhere other than her nominating papers. That's more than enough to shifted over to her to answer the next step, which is what I actually did. Well I think you know. I'll let others speak but I mean to that last part. Our declaration candidacy form is a fill in the blanks form. It doesn't have place for tell all the the nitty gritty details of where did you live before that and where did you live before that? It doesn't contemplate that it is a where do you live at this moment in time? It doesn't do anything to dispute the fact that you may have lived somewhere else. Invalidate.

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"Commissioner spell. Just a couple of items one. Right now, we're not holding a court hearing. This is an administrative hearing I've been to a lot of administrative hearings. We're hearsay and other information and things along that line are not allowed into the record in administrative situation information such as this is I I was fully expecting today to have the I figured that the pretty felt they didn't need to respond since everything was so. Obvious and I did I personally went through every single page of those partitions are very few ones that are messed up. The overwhelming majority in is probably if they did what? Almost four thousand of them, three, nine, six, six, a bit to well over. Thirty five, hundred M. The person that signed these particular Probably more than that even more than that. But there are some other mistakes on knew what the address was when they signed him at particular date. Now I expected her to come in today and say are the Canada Angelo or whatever come and say yes. I moved from TV over to royal on this particular day it's very clear and as Dean just said, there was not very few if any. Signatories that were people that signed that they were misled in terms of that, and I think that in a situation like this that we need for the sake of the public, which is watching this. Now I suppose in in the newspapers that we hear what the answer is and what the real facts of this matter are rather than trying to have some technicality closed this hearing down because this is not a court hearing, this is an administrative here. Madam Chair by May, know. You may not I'm going to allow the commissioners to ask their questions. renae other conditioners have questions for the parties or for twenty. What well, I guess my my question to you. My rate and assuming that this is not a court trial and that this is a. Hearing and that additional information such as as quite relevant I know when she moved, she moved on the twenty ninth or thirtieth from looking at this. It's very clear in this in this whole document right I, felt it was so clear that I didn't even need to s response, but I thought that she would come in and I think for the record whether the commissioners want to consider it or not. That has right to come in and tell us what she knows about the situation. She has the right Zenit they chose not to. On talking about right now is Mary. It would be complete hearsay as to whether or when Ms Walker Bove what they told the people who signed. Where very clearly, we have overlapping signatories. It that's not even an administrative hearing. You need to have the people with actual information, which is why we had our staff testify to their direct observations. Saw You're you're absolutely right? You're absolutely right on that. However, they say given that. Let's hear it anyway. And that's what I would like to give an all these. Mandel brings out I would like to hear what the facts are and I'm sure the voters of Wisconsin would like to know what the actual facts are rather than turning down these signatures of almost four thousand people not to mention the many people that are throughout the state that are members of the Green Party, and this is by some little tiny technicality that we're gonNA knock him off the ballot and we're just getting back to the same thing of you know, why do we always tell us? Off Bellamy's please, leave your reported concerns for racism out of this discussion, it's offensive to imply that the members of this commissioner racist if they decide, I'm not saying that the members are unsolvable. Bring. The. People bringing up. At the door see Sir now. So I mean, do you want are found? On my objection or not I am not going to solicit testimony or hearsay from campaign representatives who elected for whatever reason not to follow the very clear rules of this commission that are not only written down in the statutes we literally have a manual. That says what they need to do. And this is not the person who would be the proper entity to make that claim in any instance. Michener. Thomson I. Believe you indicated you wish to speak. Question. Ornate. And it's tied to. Games question. Your recommendations stain the challenge of eighteen, thirty four. Detail, that and what needed to be done by the staff to clarify that? So we don't have. Implying that you know something that we don't. I, need to hear it clearly articulated. Certainly So the IT, it again comes down to burden shifting I believe you know the the issue here then the recommendation could certainly or would certainly I believe in many cases probably turned out differently had we had a response because we would weigh both sides, the complaint and the response or without the response looking at the complaint alone Complaint raised. Legitimate. Issues that. In my mind showed that there were issues with the address on these nomination papers that based on the complaint We you know we we think it was enough to to question them and there was enough clear and convincing evidence here that there will legitimate problems with addresses on the nomination papers because of what what what commissioner or Cheer Jacobs was kind of articulating there were dates that You know you had people signing on July Twenty eighth or July twenty ninth. On the papers that were the TV address but then they're also signing on those same days on the Royal Street, address. That raises the question. What is the real address here of the candidate and was the original address listed of TV correct.

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"And they should not be considered a lastly. I understand the will of the electors argument. THAT MS. Wants to make here. But I will return again to the February twenty. Seventh Twenty Twenty motion that this commission past I'm looking at the materials from that meeting looking at paragraph one of the motion on page twenty, nine quote the will of the electors language in Wisconsin Statute section five point zero one, subdivision one does not apply to the review of nomination papers in election petitions. The commission is not to take those things into account to be clear as the Commission knows I disagreed with that position. In. The Sullivan matter that that was decided by the commission in January and I took the opposite position I lost not only does the decision make that clear but then the commission pass this motion at the end of February two cement and clarify the law about what that what the rule is that is the rule and it's the longest. Johnson. Thank you. Thank you Mr Mandell. Many of the commissioners have questions for either his Marietta or Mr Mandell. Mr spindle first, and then commissioner commute. Kate. Mandel as she she made I'm sorry. How do you pronounce your name again? Make sure you get it right? For Yes Merida Merida Okay In this this question really is to to Megan. Some of the facts of she indicated there of correspondence back and forth. Between their campaign and the Wisconsin Election Commission were not made a part of this record. is there any reason why that wasn't done? Megan. I believe that we included all relevance emails to the discussion as part of the staff memos. So if there were others yawned, that's donate. If you want to speak to you on what was included a concern speak to that miss murder mentioned an individual that I did not know Mr Williams had a conversation with that is absolutely true and. This is part of the issue with not having a response because we were not aware. I was not aware of that Robert may have been, but I was not I was aware of the emails that were were. based on this topic 'cause I was copied on on those emails and. So that that's why I was aware of those. That's I, mean that's the honest. The answer why that's that's the case. Okay so so basically I guess I. Guess I. Still Don't understand the the answer to my question. What? Mrs. Maranda indicated. was that. Over a period of time they corresponded with Wisconsin. LEX Commission had questioned the answer things along that line were should have made everything smooth I suppose release answer or allegation, and for some reason. It appears that this was not considered. Very a reason for that. Megan. And saying that we didn't get a lot of these emails and so forth and so on. Her again may include all. Okay. That's relevant to the okay that it was aware of this fine and these are. This is a very interesting situation so I did actually go through. And I looked at every single page of the Of the. Names and things along this line. And appears to me that on its face. That this whole document taken as a whole very clearly indicates that the vice president candidate Angela Walker currently, he had a residence at the TV address until July thirtieth or July thirty first. then. Other peers in new residents was established at the Royal Street address the girls at the oil address became a new resident on. July. Thirtieth Zanu about right. Mr, spindle that information is not before the commission. That's that's the point of order we had previously. I think I think that is before the commission because that's in the thousands of pages that they submitted, and if anybody takes a look added is very clear that none of the signatories were deceived in terms of what the address was The the dates are such an and I agree that there was some. A few of the petition pages actually whereas Mr Mandell said they might have been signed where there are some some people that were not when they signed it than that have the correct address and fun. But everybody who signed it had the correct address. Of We're this vice presidential candidate lived and the unlike a lot of. A lot of the. Petitions that we get especially the ones. To contrast to the the West Campaign, where's your? To me you know sort of A. We're not as good as they could have been. These were very well done a very carefully done it showed me that they were checked out and the taking a whole situation on his face to me it was extremely clear. That all the Tories signed the agreement knowing where this spice bridge presidential candidate lived, which just happens to be four point six miles between these two residents. Obviously she's in Florida warrants is that about right? Four point six miles Is it back. Not In the record and. Or? Lashawn argue the law she is not allowed to introduce new facts that should have been introduced by verified response. Okay. But but it's what I'm saying that information is in the record. It's in the record by itself by by anybody that takes a look at the and goes through page by page on these various petitions, and again I she she mentioned this I think this good point Angela Walker is amount Milwaukee native, forma? MILWAUKEE. County transit bus driver she was in about social justice advocate. And wants to give the rack wound people another opportunity to do it. So this again is another example of suppression by the Democratic Party Wisconsin, which is the. Plaintiff in both of these situations are in these challenges trying to tell the blacks and Hispanics in whomever how to vote that. You should not have a choice between a only biden or only trump no no thought about West note thought about the Green Party candidates and I think that is just another example of suppression of the Black Boat Sablan choice and you know I don't know does it meet meet the definition of systemic racism I don't know. But initiative spends out. Yeah. I'm sorry if I may I just as a factual matter? The Democratic Party of Wisconsin has nothing to do with this complaint. or WHO's the guy that wrote UC political director for the Democratic Party Wisconsin is Mr Arnson first of all, I wrote the complaint. Attorney. Alan, arts does not work for the Democratic Party. Arts. Retired lawyer at Foley and Lardner. Chair. Okay I'm sorry. Democrats. Mandel ooh makeup. nope. Commissioner Kanoute sin asked to speak next commissioner canoed some. Do you have any questions? Is there a reason why you're allowing Mr Mandell to speak out of turn and I'm not allowed that same? Opportunity saying a specific thing. Mr Spindle said I was asked a direct question man and I'm not allowing additional acts to be presented here today Mr Bean Yell is asking about Angela Walkers current address in the is. It is not a fact you are permitted to put on the record man lost that opportunity when you've failed to file as instructed by staff a verified response, you are allowed to argue the law and now commissioner canoe available to ask questions of you. Mr. Mandell Mr Kitchen, go ahead. You have to meet yourself. Thank you sorry about that. Thank you Madam Chair before I, ask my question to Miss Marita my question for knee our staff council can you clarify for.

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"Are they limited to admitting that the facts of record are them I mean they can't come in here. Deny all the facts right? I think they have lost that Opportunity I. think that's what attorney Mandela's stating that by not submitting. Anything in contradiction of the facts that attorney Mandela's entitled to come in and assume that those facts are not in dispute over to the right of summary Judgment I don't submit. Facts that reviewed I made meeting those fags. So, if we're. Argument is that you're the facts as is the case. So mean, these are the facts. I still win win under the law is that were allowing I just. I, think that is the only fair way to do it. I do agree his attorney Mandel that if parties were to come in today all of a sudden with all sorts of new facts that they didn't. Submit in a verified response that would be improper and it would be. Prejudicial to the, challenging party. however, they are tend to command and argued law. and. Argue that even if the facts are true stated or the information is through stated that they. Should survive the challenge for whatever reasons they wish to offer. So, I was doing will not limit their argument. But that they are not able to submit new facts because they did not do so by the time. Set forth by statute. Or dispute facts right or dispute facts that are in the moving papers. So. Does that clarify Mr Mandell? Is Madam Chair I. I greatly appreciate it Madam chip if I may. you may respond to the point of order Miss Marita. Right. Thank you, My name is Andrea Though Campaign Manager for how can twenty twenty? I have to point out that even though you're statute refers to calendar days in the response. we do need to be clear of the fact that. Two of those days are over the weekend where business cannot be submitted and your staff will confirm that when I actually received. Notice of this challenge would have been seven thirty seven PM Wisconsin time that was five thirty seven PM Denver time where I live. and where I received the email. So technically, we actually have not even been noticed in a proper fashion and actually that notice the clock or that not really should have started on that following Monday. Thank you. Thank you miss, Marita I would light you now and let our fellow commissioners now that in Wisconsin that if a time limit is set for less than ten days, weekends are counted and that is actually state statute. If a time limit is greater than ten days and weekends, illegal holidays are excluded in if I may respond. Reflate Okay Well again I mean earlier we've heard arguments that you know there's the time clock of five o'clock with seconds in and that was not sustained by you all. So by that logic than I have to ascertain that if you're sending me something official after five pm as a weekday or on whatever day it is that actually that calendar is not gonNa Start and our time should not have run out on Monday. It actually should have run out on that following Tuesday because you conducted business after that window. So. If one thing is true than the other should also be true it business conducted after five o'clock pm your time is the boundary. Than really that should apply here as well, and so we have not been given sufficient time under statute to respond to this. Thank you Mr Marita did you file anything on Tuesday? Did. We file anything on Tuesday? We were told that we could not. Thank you. Alright. Attorney Mandell, we're going to give ten minutes Commissioner Administrative Wolf will be getting the. Ahead please. Thank you Madam Chair. The campaign from Mr Hawkins and Ms Walker submitted nomination papers three, thousand, eight, hundred, eighty signatures. So many of those signatures are invalid that they do not meet the threshold of two thousand signatures to be included on the ballot. Wisconsin statute requires that nomination papers must include the candidates addresses that's in Section Eight, point twenty subdivision one paragraph A. Wisconsin elections. Commission has on its website a document called nomination paper review guidelines. an. Exceptionally. Clear. On. Page one. It says quote, the header of each petition page must contain all the required information. If any of the required information is missing or incorrect. No signatures on that page can be counted end quote. That same document on the same page expressly lists quote resentful address candidate and quote as required information. Here There are a number of pages on which the residential address from his Walker is incorrect. Those pages. And all of the signatures on them cannot be counted. The respondents actually created this problem by ignoring. The guidance that the commission staff provided and refusing to correct the error. I would point the commission to page thirty. One of. The staff memo The staff expressly. Instructed the respondents not to make any changes to information in the head of the pages after electors had signed him. In, addition the staff sent to emails on two successive days both quoted at length on page thirty, one of the staff memo with instructions. To help the campaign, avoid any issues that could be caused by Ms Walker moving from one residence to another during the period that the nominating papers were being circulated. The Green Party failed to provide the minimal information that the elections commission staff requested. As a result it submitted incorrect nominating papers and then when that was pointed out by our complaint, as we've already discussed, they failed to fix the issue or file minimal information that would have allowed the commission to understand what had happened. Now. It is simply too late. For the respondents to fix those oversights, the staff memo makes that point at page thirty two. The respondents fall short under either of two approaches to counting invalid signatures both approaches are laid out in our complaint. The first approach. Is that there are two thousand and nineteen signatures on nomination papers that are printed with the incorrect address from his Walker. I will note that that two thousand nineteen is a slightly different number than is in our complaint our complaint. aronie ASLI states. It is two thousand and forty six was a math error and I apologize there are two thousand and nineteen signatures on nomination papers that are printed with the wrong address from his Walker. If, we remove those two thousand nineteen signatures from the three, thousand, eight, hundred, eighty total signatures that the respondent submitted. There are one, thousand, eight, hundred, sixty, one signatures.

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"Sure Is there a discussion on? Commissioner spindle Yeah I'm not GonNa go on repeat everything that are repeated before but I'm not sure the example issue you gave was given because if we go back to December two thousand eleven, Scott Walker Petitions Mickey Mouse Analogy Hitler were allowed to be counted on recall we tissues as long as they were properly dated included was Kansin address so. I I. Think Mark has a lot of good points here that we should not base something on a news report. They would start up to be a very bad precedent. So I would I would be against You know I would originally go with the with the. Recommend motion of the stay off in that Not Changed that. Obviously. Those petitions were not before this body. Any other comments from the commissioners. Sure. Specifically do you want to be heard? I just think we need to be consistent. We can't ignore the evidence we've heard. It it. It would be rather bizarre ruling. For us to do that. All right. Any other discussion? Is there. Is there a motion on the floor at this point? There is what I'd like to make an friendly amendment again. At the. Since emotion. One, be considered after motion to three two and three be combined into emotion and then one be a second motion. Well, I already made one as a separate motion. Okay and what I'm doing is friendly or you're just doing number one right only doing number one. Oh Okay and it repeats want me to read it again. No. No that's fine and then you're going go onto two and three years edited by. Making the written motion. Bob. There's a new number one I. Know they're. Okay. Okay. All right. So the recommended motion is based upon the records of proceedings held today before this mission in the evidence presented, the commission sustains the challenge to all nation papers sustained excuse me submitted by his tidball because they were not excuse me Mr West because they were not filed timely in accordance with with stat eight point two, zero sum of a M. Therefore, their name shall not appear on the twenty twenty November general election ballot is independent candidates for president and Vice President IRKS US me as candidate for president in Wisconsin. That is the motion. Mr Boston. I. Wish ner Lancy. I Commissioner spindle. Know Michener Thomson. I. Write the motion is carried five zero. Or you're not. Excuse me. Mr Donald Chair yes I'd like to move that. We adopt the staff recommended motions on page six and seven numbers, two, three and four. I'll. Second. A second desert further discussion. Yeah. Let's. To to as. The timeliness dame. We just changed it. I'm sorry. I think you mad at home in this book I think you meant one, one, three and four. Okay Okay. So it is numbers one, three and four. And and there's some seconded that idea. Mr Spindles did that we'll call picture Boston. I Miss Your glancy. Knutson. Miss your in Del by. Thomson all right. The motion carries six zero. All right. We will now proceed to the final challenge. which is. the complaint of Allen Carson against the Wisconsin Green Party Howie Hawkins and Angela Walker. it is my understanding that attorney Mandel will be. Presenting for the Challenging Party and Andrea Maria will be responding for on behalf of the Green party Mr Hawkins and Ms Walker as with before each party will have ten minutes to present followed by questions from the commission. Journey Mandela's the challenging party you may proceed. Thank you Madam Chair before we begin I have a a Quarter again. You May. Thank you like with my point about the replied. I do understand that I've raised this with staff. Who have consulted with administrator Wolf in yourself I do not expect the order to change but I, I, do want to have this on the record. I is our position that the respondents in this matter have forfeited the opportunity to present any arguments today. Where the rules grant an opportunity for argument, and the Party for goes that opportunity than forfeiture. Is the result the Supreme Court has held that quite clearly for example, I would point to the Dina Case N. D. I N. A. At two thousand, nine W. I twenty one which in paragraph twenty nine says a failure to make timely assertion of a right. Results any forfeiture? The rules of this commission set strict deadlines for Complaints and responses. I would point to Administrative Code Chapter E. L. Section two point zero seven subdivision to her groups a, and B. To allow respondents to present arguments here today without having filed a response as required by the rules would give the respondents nearly eleven times as many hours to prepare as we as given to the complainant. To go through their papers, identify the problems research them, substantiate them and get them on file with this commission. It allows the respondents to sandbag the complainant by presenting arguments with no notice whatsoever of what arguments will be a no opportunity to prepare it prejudices the complaints efforts to meet our burdens underlaw of proof and persuasion. Administrative hearings in this state must comport with due process. The Supreme Court has so held, for example, at the Union Bank case at one, forty, two, Wisconsin second one, twenty six, and as I said earlier due processes about fundamental fairness we believe this is an imposition and prejudice to the complainant and we just want our objection noted for the record. I would also ask that. That chair confirm my understanding based on my exchange with staff about this earlier that while the commission is going to allow the respondents to present argument, they will not be allowed to present any evidence that should end Needed to be presented earlier, it was going to be presented at all. So, this question of procedure was raised with staff and the chair. My analogy in this situation was to summary Judgment Motions. Apple capable, which is to say one is not required to provide evidence to rebut such emotion. And one is permitted to argue the law and argue that the law is not applicable or the petitioning party has failed to comply with the necessary law. and I believe the Green Party. Mr Hawkins in his Walker have the opportunity to argue by way of example, Mr Mandell that your papers were untimely or improper or don't meet the necessary legal threshold. However, as I indicated staff what redid transmit this to you I'm the proper interpretation is that they would not by way, of example, be allowed to come in today and offer evidence that should been submitted and verified format. With an answer to this challenge and the staff memo refers to that. to the fact that there is not any evidence in the record from them. So. They will be permitted to argue but to the extent that they make any factual assertions that are not in the record before us. That they're kind of out of luck on that one if at the end of their presentation field that there is something of such great seriousness that you require a brief additional time to rebut their arguments I will allow that. So, I will return to you after his meritas arguments. However. Not to repeat what you have said previously, only to address something that is raised for the first time in their comments to the commission Richard Thompson. The I'm just. Dining get the lay of the land procedurally here are. Are..

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"For we go back on shakeup do we have Mr. Santer. I was told that we do mr similar is on by phone he indicated he was having Issues not able to up your bites do. Okay. Thank you. Mr Boston are you back? There we go. One two, three or. There we go. To At least we have all commissioners and staff at wrestling. Yes it appear. So we will. Reconvene meeting. Of the Wisconsin. Election Commission. we do have a challenge by just of Sant Teller who will be appearing. By phone as with the previous. Format, we will allow Mr Sin Teller present for up to ten minutes. we will allow turning Kerlin to present for up to ten minutes, and then the commission will be able to ask them questions ask questions of Staff Council and then entertain any motions Mr. Santelli are you on the line I am on the life. Are. All right. You may proceed. You have up to ten minutes to discuss with the Elections Commission. Thank you and good afternoon I'd like to thank members of the Commission as commission staff for all of your time and waiting for me to get connected and hearing the complaints today for taking the time to review this so. Thank you for that I'd like to start with a similar point of order that was raped by the tournament Al by noting that the response to my complaint was not verified, but the candidate I challenged. Now this point is different in my kids. I didn't name vice presidential candidates hit ball in my complaints with the only candidate challenge in my complaint Mr West. And that candidate did not verify ons. So in my view, the allegations in my complaint, stand unrebutted due to the candidate challenge failure to bear. Acts in accordance with section Yell Two Point Oh seven sub to care be. So that is an initial point of order I'd like to make. Hey. Does. The wish to discuss the point of order or is there emotion on the point of order? Does anyone have the page number of the response to this endless ecksteen hundred pages. Yes I told it. Madam Chair, if I may, it's Jeff Mandel. The verification is on page nine, Forty, eight of the commission materials. Thank you attorney Mandel. That's very helpful. K. Commissioner. Knutson does that answer your question or are you looking at it online? Looking at it we're trying to. And Madam Chair just in case I misunderstood commissioner can you since question the response itself begins on page eight, hundred, seventy, two of the commission materials. As we discussed it was a joint joint response. So response to the both. So same response it was filed in the Brent matter is the same response for the this pricey. Okay. Okay That's my only question. The point of order was that Mr Taylor's. Challenge. was directed only two candidate West not to candidate to wall. And therefore ball excuse me and therefore it was. It is lacking verification. Motion for many commissioner regarding this point of order. I make emotion that we Disregard this winter border and continue on with her hearing. Is Emotion as. Their second. Pressure can seconds to surfers on this? Are you are you second commissioner condition? Yes. Okay. or any further discussion on this point of order. Hearing none. I'll call the roll concern. I which glancy I shirk nukes and I. Been The del. Mr Thomson. votes. I we will continue. Are there any other points of order Mr Santer? You may proceed with your arguments commissioner restrained wealth of you would return the collected ten minutes. Go ahead please. You as I know in the first count of my complain Wisconsin Statute Section Eight Point two, zero to the contains a general requirement for most independent candidates for office. That, their nomination papers nearly included ended mailing address however, the Statue Sport, the different requirements presidential. that. They say their residents Ho stops address L. While the parties may disagree on what this actually means in terms of the word residents and has something more than a million drives. Otherwise the legislature would not have carson. And made it a requirement separate, the mailing address requirements that apply all other Kansas. So. In this case, even accepting the candidates version of events as true. The only provided the mailing address this campaign. While, this might be enough to satisfy the statute engineer requirement for the price non metric campaign. This is the presidential campaign. There must be something more contemplated by the statute than a Malian us me and I believe under the live. Well, residents space live. This candidate does not live at the address provided nor his nomination presented his residents happens to be in that same pal. Instead, it's filings are asking the commission to make that inference and I don't believe that inferences provided for by. Statute. That interesting that some unknown portion of the mailing address he did provide to also the dents. Now beyond that, even if it candy could satisfy the residents postbox address requirement. By simply stating their mailing address which happens to be the same city as residents, we don't have verified statement from the candidate challenge. On where residents actually is. So I. I. Understand. Commission. Not Considering my reply very but Elections Administrative Code Section two point, oh five three. Permits the commission to consult maps, directories and other extrinsic evidence to ascertain the correctness of any information on a nomination paper. So the commission is not going to review my reply, which in which suggests that respondent owns and may reside in two other pieces of residential real estate that are outside Cody Wyoming. And implore the Commission to exercise two point three authorities who consult extrinsic evidence to ascertain the accuracy of as an stated on recitals nomination papers. I dispute that the case block cited by respondent helps us causing and situation I don't think he cited to case limits the definition of residents who city or state. So that is my point with respect to count one of my complaints. And I'm happy to get into count two which relates to the timing of respondents filing. But I'd just like to raise another point of order with respect to that. I understand the decision was made with respect to the other complaint on this same point. So I, I don't want to Belabor the point of happy make records of my own argument on.

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"In. If somebody showed up at ten, zero, zero, zero, one they the help which would bug close the store so it's my belief that yes, she was on time and to that the transfer took place. As soon as there are staff member met that person in the lobby and went up in the lobby. With her because in the past, there has not been anybody in the lobby to do this because of this very unusual situation. Thank you. Are there any other commissioners who wish to speak on this? The question. MR, Thompson, calls the question. We will take a vote. The motion is recommended motion number. One that the commission sustains the challenge to all nomination papers submitted by Mr West and MS till because they were not filed timely accordance with Wisconsin Statute Eight Point Two oh, sub eight am. Therefore their names not appear on the twenty twenty November general election ballot is independent candidates for president and Vice President respectively in Wisconsin Commissioner Boston High Votes, I glancy I. Glance, votes I commissioner Nipson. Michener can Dixon votes? I commissioner spindle. Mr Spindle, votes Know Commissioner Thomson. Thomson Votes I. I vote is the motion is carried five to one. We have been at this for. Two and a half hours with the commissioners like a brief break before we take the next challenge. Sure be nice absence and is that a s commissioner tops? Minutes I've met. All right. We'll take a five minute break and please make it exactly five minutes because we got a long way to go. It's five, thirty three. We WanNa make it just what.

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"And Commissioner Thomas Back. All right. So. Here's. Here's what I'm. Trying to get at. Is. That statement at the top of page fifteen, the papers were not in the possession at five. Oh One. By what means was that determined? Who Determined it. On what you know what is that statement based on? What did somebody look at? Their own lodge upstairs. Have we tried to I mean are there is there security camera video or some other means within the building for us to know what was going on and at what time? What what steps have we taken to verify that that statement is actual true and factual? is based on conversations with Riley who was the individual that you know was at the at the elevator you know when the individuals came off came off the elevator. That's based on the fact that. I'm GonNa plus you there I think the answer to this is both of these gentlemen are available and in the interests of creating a complete record. my intention would be to bring them in front of the commission. to briefly be sworn and enter testimony. the commissioners may ask any questions of them they wish. I'm not going to have I don't think the party's specifically questioned now unless there's some particular reason to do that because I think it's going to be. This is not really a trial, but I think commissioner Knudsen's questions of exactly the factual basis. they're available to us I think if we were live would bring them in. So, we will bring them in administrator wall for Mr Rijeka is one of you able to bring them into our meeting. please. Yes. We Are we've. Added them as panelists in they will be joining us. Shortly. Thank you. Madam Chair forgive me if this is out of order but can I? Make a point lease. Recently yes. A pursuant to two point five election code. EXTRINSIC evidence is appropriate when the facial sufficiency of complaint. But we're talking about the timeliness pursuant to parents to of that statute and I just don't know that extrinsic evidence is is appropriate under these circumstances and so. To the extent I can object I will, but I understand that. That may not matter. Well. Let me ask you this. Are you conceding that the papers were not in the hands of the filing officer at exactly yeah? No not at all. Okay. then. who was at the door was at Riley? Cody Davies was the election specialist who is downstairs at the front door in Riley. Woman was the one that was on the verge of war waiting to receive a crime of getting off the elevator. And is is Davies available to be on video? That's yes reas. Okay. we're going to begin with cody be pissed at the front door cody, would you please raise your right hand? You solemnly swear affirm that the testimony you are about to give us the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth I do, what is your complete name? Christopher, Davies are you employed? In Elections Administration specialists for the Wisconsin. Elections Commission. Thank you Mr Davies? You can put your hand down We are here discussing. The filing nomination papers of Kanye West. which occurred on August fourth twenty, twenty you are aware of that. I am. And August Fourth Twenty Twenty at approximately four fifty, five pm where were you? was downstairs in the lobby to twelve Washington waiting for anyone who might. Try to file nomination papers prior to the five o'clock deadline. And what were your instructions? Instructions were to watch the front door and make sure anyone who would. Try to file papers was able to enter the building and into escort them upstairs if they did. and. What did you observe that afternoon at between four, fifty, five inside PM. There were a number of folks outside with cameras can't stipulate how many of them were out there. At least three folks four, fifty five is when I went downstairs at four, fifty seven. I was also the individual who took the phone call. From the campaign staff indicating that they were approximately three minutes away. I remember saying something to the effect of three minutes is bad. Two minutes is better. As it was four, fifty seven at the time. And as soon as I saw them coming up the stairs I went to go up in the inner door they had open the outer door themselves. Fourteen seconds or so after five PM is my best recollection us when that happened, I had been observing e clock icon on the face of my phone. I remember the Little Red second hand clearly passing five PM and. After. Twelve to fourteen seconds. They reached the stairs in front of the building and I went to go in the door I escorted them upstairs. I'M GONNA PAUSE YOU Did you inform them at that time that they were fourteen seconds over. I do not recall if. It came up at that time. There was discussion when we got upstairs that I needed to consult with management and with staff council as they had filed effectively after five pm and I was uncertain at that time how to best proceed. So. When you open the door between five twelve and five, fourteen Piazza five o'clock in twelve seconds or five o'clock and fourteen seconds after five PM. Where did you then go please trace you root for us. So the two members from the West Campaign, and then to other folks followed them in the door on that leaves they were representatives of the media. Then proceeded to the main elevator in the building here. At which point two representatives from the campaign and myself entered the elevator, the two representatives of the media asked if they could come along. I didn't feel as though that was appropriate. It was after hours and social distancing being what it was I think we're already a little act into the elevator. then. We had to scan in. So the access to the third floor is restricted to members of Wisconsin. Elections, Commission. So I had to scan my ID badge. The doors closed and then we went upstairs after that. As was mentioned earlier the doors open your immediately in the office. At, that time. Is there for a moment please or at any time prior to the moment when the doors of the elevator opened into the offices of the election. Commission, had you taken possession of any of the petitions? we did not touch the papers until after they had been put on the counter on the front desk I Were you present when those papers were placed on the counter of the front desk I was And to the best of your recollection at what time were they placed on the counter of the front desk. I cannot say for certain.

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"Would possibly go to five fifty nine let. Let's take the rounding situation in terms of somebody walking in the building generally when we round up numbers if something gets to the thirty. Isn't that normally moved up to the next. Level, so it was five. The you know for five. In thirty, it could be considered five one or you know five, twenty, four, it could be a it was generally put that the other area I mean that's just simply math in in around rounding type Urus. So The other question is. Is in a situation like this, and we know it was brought by the Party. My question is when you think the Democratic Party is GonNa Stop Town to suppress black folk I'm GONNA ask you to pause for a moment. Michener Thomson Okay. And I'M GONNA ask you to post your minute. It's You know on our screen it's a little bit hard because we have We. Don't have dean on my screen and we do have an extra and we need the two attorneys, Megan the six commissioners and I'm wondering if the gentleman who was who is monitoring this could maybe. Make sure that all of us are on the same. Are you saying? Are you saying the same thing I I you need your settings under video to only see the people who have video. If. You go down but there's more than six I only have nine. On Mine. That learn all night the moderator. Okay. Prompted Commissioner Thompson to lock back in. Okay. So, we're all set no, not in yet or he's not in you. Okay. Jacob, can you please go to participants and Invite Commissioner Thomson? Yes I had just sent an invite a moment ago. It you send it to his work email instead of his estate one. I did not. I can send one to his work email right now, I'll just need that provided. I have a hotmail email, I will send it to. You. A. Bob Is your screen. Showing non video participants well, now it is the. So last year. Sherry showing up. Let me let me take a look next. Go in the upper right. I haven't I have you on there and Megan now and on the other one. Would we pick up. Go in the upper right corner for example of share. Yeah. And then there's a little. Blue box, DOT DOT dot. When you when you do those setting that'll give you the choice to just not show them. Then more video participants look. At least move them off your screen. Some of the staff members that are just on audio listening. All Right? I don't want to try and I'd better not try and screw it up. You know otherwise we may have another. All, right we are. Back on the record mission Thompson has reappeared Risher spin. Can you where you where? is a your understanding that the Democratic Party, the media reports say that they do not wish. To, have Mister West. On the Ballot because they're afraid that. Blacks may vote for him as opposed to Mr Biden. I would assume that there are different reasons but I believe that that is likely one of them. Actually, media report and that sort of brings me to the point in terms of the. Wisconsin Democrat switches, which is the people that are bringing this challenge My my question is, what are they gonNA stop? The Black? We had the problem in Milwaukee with Hunter Needy Units being brought down to five, which which definitely affected the black vote. here they wished to take away from La. Black population an opportunity to. Take a black presidential candidate off the ballot inhabit choice in terms of who they want to vote for in we're the same thing with the Green Party where we have a black activist who's running for vice president that they WANNA get off, they want to get off and You know. What's next in terms of trying to to suppress the the black choice I mean the Republicans had an opportunity to try and do something with Libertarians which they did not, and they welcome and we got to recognize you know that there's some people that may not want to vote for trump or one of vote for for by. So I think it's I think this situation there's something that I would hope that the Democratic Party will will will try and take a look at in right in my opinion there suppression of the Black Vote, and that's all the questions I at this point. Commissioner Thompson. There we go. I was interested. This is for Mr. Permit, before I get to Mr Mandell but Mr Carnero said that If someone had been missing red lights or less late and got stuck at a train stop or something that candidate would have another remedy. But would that remedy be I think it would be a petition to court perhaps A. A. Seeking a writ of search for extraordinary circumstances causing the the inability to meet a deadline and I'm not exactly sure of the mechanism, but it seems to me that there. There would be a a path to try to convince a court that the campaign should otherwise be. accepted. But in general, you have the the premise. That if it's five zero to your your. You didn't make the time, right? I would. Yes Oak. In an some sort of addresses do. Mr Kennison's question about whether we need the staff on. To tell us how late. Transferred to place I. See to me, and this is also to mistress been del I don't think this is a hybrid technical kind of question I think this has to do with. Discussions that we've had previously on what is the common sense approach? To accepting. ABORS to, put candidates. On on the ballot and there was a consensus that if you're late, you're late..

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"Nine nine nine would still be timely, but any time that started with a twelve. Isn't timeline. It's it's after midnight and it's actually the next day to my understanding of it. It's pretty clearly the same thing five o'clock is five o'clock. If. I. So I understand you're trying to make an argument that five o'clock five a one. But It. Just seems to me that you know everything that starts with the four is, is before five o'clock and five o'clock the deadline. Maybe. I'm just common sense and not a lawyer, but that's the way it seems. No Commissioner I to respond to that I frankly believe it is a drafting error and I think that it's it's correctly defined when people were contemplating how to define before midnight and they say it must be filed no later than he loves fifty nine and I think that there's just a little bit of carelessness there. You can see it in Zimmerman decisions where they conflate before they played within and so forth and that by. Saying no later than five, they have added additional minute, which is how. I'm not familiar in law with seconds mattering when it comes to regards timeliness, it is simply. Times or minutes and larger components at time, and if you know the fractions of a second. Are. Simply part of what you would refer to if you're looking at a clock, a digital clock says eleven fifty nine and that is what time you would report to somebody. You wouldn't round up until the clock itself changed. Attorney currently if you set a timer on your phone. To go off at five o'clock. When would it go off? It should go off at five o'clock sharp as soon as the clock turn to five. Five. Zero zero zero zero so on. Yes. If, we'd set a timer to go off at five. Would the papers have been in on time or not? The first response would be for the filing officer to determine but to answer your question directly, I still think that the way the language is set forth the person would have until five. Oh, one to file language because there it would not be seen or deemed later than five o'clock based on the language used and the way other statues similarly. Use that language. And again, that's because I think that the time period in question matters and that's why no later than Tuesday means all of Tuesday. Question for the staff then and then I'll be done. procedurally here the staff mammal introduce things. That were SORTA testimony by the staff in a couple of places things that I didn't see in either of the affidavits. And so is it appropriate and proper for us to? Query or take testimony from the staff as to. What happened? I'm assuming that's for me, Newton yes. If the commission desires that is certainly something they could do I would offer however that. The. Commission. Has No. The commission staff has no real like one way or the other I mean they're they're trying they're giving their best advice to the commission as to what they believe happened that day. So when when there are some statements there that talk about what happened it's relaying the from the individuals exactly. What happened so when we're talking about A staff member was standing the glass door receiving the phone call that comes directly from the person that was y'alls standing by the glass door answering the phone so. If you believe that is helpful. You know I. It's never really been. It's never really been done before but if that is helpful for the commission. If we could could handle it right specifically now because they don't know if those individuals are necessarily available Howard but it it, it's there is no. So when when the filing officer quote Unquote Finding Officer I it's the staff, but it's it's really the commission who's making the decision. So what's happening here is the staff who were on the ground are laying and providing the information to the filing officer here to make that determination. So. You know The some of the statements absolutely some of some of the information that is is from for the commission to way and decide whether they. Want to accept that information or not. But that is the that is the role I believe of the staff. When they're making the recommendations, they're providing the commission, the information that they know to be true and and the commission is free to then way and make those determinations based on what's what's before them coming from the staff that were actually. On the ground. When those papers scheme in we'll let me pose my question and you can tell me if the questions out of order the chair can. Tell me I'm out of order. Here's my question I believe the lawn the rule says that that. The papers needed to be in the physical possession of the Elections Commission. No later than five PM. My question is. Who took physical possession and when did they take physical possession? You do you want? Know. Staff names. The crux of that's the crux of the problem here, and if person is available to talk with us I, mean it seems to me like if our job is to find the facts here and find out what's true and right? And make a decision. That's fair. That's the crux of this. That's what we need to know. Not, what time were they on the sidewalk or in the lobby or in the elevator or.

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"I believe that that may be within the realm of what filing officer is permitted to do, but they would have to take steps in order to correct such human such a where I guess I would quote putting quotes a mistake and no steps were taken here what steps are required and point me to some sort of statutory. Of what the filing officer would have been required to do. I think that that may go back to five point Oh six. And It would be that an action of the official or failure of the official to act with respect concerning nominations. I think you'd have to challenge it under that. There may be other ways that the staff can take steps to do this but. If that is the proper place where it goes. Aaron, three of five point zero, six states that the ability to fix any problem has to be done within ten days. And? I guess that I would say that the commission is better suited to know of the situation has arisen in the past than I am. And maybe attorney Judge Nick could could answer the question whether or not they've taken steps to correct a mistake on behalf of the commission. Why say perceived? Are you saying that accepting filing and marking at filed? The next day is a mistake. And if I can be clear on on what you're saying Madam Chair when you say Is there evidence that this was filed in marked on the next day or is this a hypothetical? I'm not aware that these papers were actually marked and as filed on the following day. Well, what I'm asking is even receive late. You will receive things all the time. We can file things late. All the time they are received their even filed with the court by way of example of the date by which they are considered wild is determined. By. The receiving entity clerk of court. Or in this case, the Elections Commission. I agree and I would state that the only evidence that we have that these papers were filed is that they were filed timely because the election official, the election officer accepted them. With. No indication that he deemed them untimely are filed the following day. Thank you attorney current commissioner condition I believe you go back. Thank you attorney. Current. administrative. Code. L. Two point zero. Five sub to. Requires that the nomination papers be in the physical possession. Of The I don't have it in front of me but of the filing officer. and yet we're talking a lot about what went on at the door of the building. Is is does the affidavit claim or is there somewhere in evidence that the candidate or the candidate's agent Kyle? Transferred physical possession at the door. I don't know I. Don't know if there's any evidence either way with regard to that question. Because my understanding and reading all the papers and a staff memo is that. The, the phone call at or fifty seven. Actually went directly to someone who was standing right near the door and so when I mean there's video of them going back to their car and waiting but the IT. It appears to me that there was somebody waiting by the door to open the door. There was really no delay upon arrival. At. Curbside. Or wasn't known delay by that locked door because someone was standing there waiting waiting for them. Who then Gortat them to the elevator which was waiting and escorted them up at which point? The possession was still retained while. The candidates attorney. Proceeded to add the required page numbers. And at which point after all of that had taken place then the candidates attorney transferred possession to the filing officer. since. E L. Two, point zero five carries the weight of law. The law requires that they actually be in physical possession. It seems to me that there's no evidence that that happened. But in fact, there's evidence to the contrary that it that it that transfer of physical possession did not happen. The four or five o'clock or five a one. But happened sometime after that. Can do you see this differently or? Would that be an accurate understanding of the facts? I think that the fact that we aren't clear on that point. Proves the point that the only actions that truly matter with regard to the question of timeliness come down to the actions of the filing officer and as a sort of an analogy here when. When a boxer is knocked down, you don't get ten seconds to get back up, you get a ten count and the person in control of that is the referee, and in this case I believe that the filing officer serves as the referee and determine whether or not the five pm but deadlines has been matter or not. And and here we have a situation where it does not appear that the filing officer deemed this on time. So just as a follow up question as to the five o'clock. It seems to me that just common sense and common understanding. would be that. All the designations of times. That start with a four are before five o'clock, and all of those that start with the five are after five o'clock, and you could go to infinite number of decimals and that would be the case. So, you've used the example of eleven fifty nine in cases where the statutory requirement is that it happened on a certain day by the next day would be considered late on that day was considered I'm Lee, and then the statutory construction is that. It says not later than eleven fifty nine is exactly that second situation. Anytime. That it came in. That would be fifty, nine.

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"Something like combined complaint or consolidated complaint. And I gave that some thought. I mean I'm I'm. I guess I'd like to hear from our staff attorney of there's any precedent for us. You know not accepting. A response in this kind of a situation where it was consolidated. One of the candidates signed the attorney other. HAS SIGNED Any kind of precedent for us not accepting that response in that kind of a situation. That's a good question commissioner of you know not aware of any precedent you know there it is interesting that. We would generally don't get challenges when you have joint nomination papers, right so both candidates appear they kind of run as the ticket right president and vice presidents that does present. A little bit of a unique scenario there It's usually it's usually not an issue that comes up because it's always the singular candidate that is responding. To those verify compliance with a verified response in most instances so. To, to think of has it ever happened in the last twenty or thirty years it's it's possible but I cannot think of any not aware of any cases in which that has has has occurred. Question. Yes I think. After, hearing what needs says, and so forth and hearing the arguments I'd like to make emotion that we continue with the hearing is planned industry guard the the point of water that the gentleman for. Challenges. Is there discussion from any of the other commissioner on that?.

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"Wolf has agreed to be our timekeeper. We've asked the parties to select one presenter. To allow us to focus on their arguments. Additionally, we have asked the parties to use the bates stamped page numbers of the petition and other materials that we posted on our website and not to refer to petition page numbers so that we all can know what everyone is talking about. Members of the public who want to take a look at the materials being referred to can go to W. I. Dot elections, Dot Gov, and in the middle of that page about Halfway Down Under Twenty Twenty Wisconsin? Information. Click on general and presidential election November three twenty twenty you will find links to the materials they're. The commissioners have been provided with copies of all approximately sixteen hundred pages of the materials submitted by the challengers as well as digital copies of the media. The commissioners in addition have received various public comments in writing that have been submitted. We will not be having live public comments today we will however here live public accountants at our September first. Meeting. However persons who wished to speak live at that meeting will be required to register ahead of time because we're doing it by zoom. and we will post more information about how to do that when we post materials for that meeting. Today the Commission will be addressing all challenges made by different parties even if one of those challenges is despite all of the candidates access to the ballot. Missioner's will have the opportunity to question both the challenges and the respondents, and this will be in addition to any presentation made by them and will not affect their ten minutes. Time limit. Our Staff Council Nate Jug deck will then present the staff recommendations and will be available..

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"Forty eight the votes are cast but you know what they're not being counted yet in Wisconsin the state Election Commission says results from yesterday's election won't be reported until next week governor Tony Evers ordered election results be held until Monday the thirteenth Wisconsin's election commission's administrator Meagan Wolfe says local clerks can run ballots through the tabulated but they can't count their votes as of yet voter complaints of course in lawsuits waiting now in the wings are expected to muddy up the waters further for the final vote count but the rumblings there in in Wisconsin is that the Joe Biden won the democratic primary there over Bernie Sanders to the one we were just talking with Rachel Sutherland about that and she said that might have you know push to Bernie's button a little bit more aggressively in terms of a suspending

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"wisconsin election commission" Discussed on News Talk 1130 WISN

"With this nonsense it's just one of the most ludicrous arguments I've ever heard the Wisconsin Election Commission is the only agency in the state that has control over the voter list yet we're to believe that this statute that deals with handling the voter list refers to someone other than the Wisconsin Election Commission this is how stupid that particle or that argument is yeah that's a galaxy brain stuff no no no no no it's hi the local election commissions is what not that that's not logically possible and in twenty seventeen as former justice Michael Gabel man pointed out in twenty seventeen the Wisconsin Election Commission removed three hundred some thousand names from the voter last in compliance with that exact same statute so clearly the Wisconsin Election Commission has always operated since its founding as if and before that the the board of elections and the government accountability board and all that they operated as it is if there're this statute clearly governs their cut now however when they decide they don't want it to govern their conduct then they say oh well our doesn't apply to us okay all up all right I've made an executive decision it's six o'clock I've got a party to get to you folks don't want to hear me anymore do you we're gonna go to Sean Hannity for a little bit then the Milwaukee admirals are in action our pregame coverage of that will start at six thirty I've I've got a neighborhood thing I've got to get to I've got to pick up supplies for I left the basketballs for a basketball teams with my assistant coach and I've got to go to his house and pick them up I've got like the busiest weekend in the known world right now and plow and guess what it's going to snow five inches so I would have to get out and snow blow to Utah no I don't want to do not want to to your house I know where you live those driveways are a pain in the **** you got to do the sidewalk in front I remember I see days I I lived in Dave's neighborhood years ago before I moved to where I currently live Dave lives right down the street from my old house and we lived on the corner you know which house was mine right the one right on the corner did it really it just sold again all wow okay that's twice since twenty thirteen I know all right I could make more money we sold in thirteen the market hadn't fully come back up but we had to do all caught it was awful the odd the sidewalk it's just it's massive I mean that the front yard is big so there is stock horn of sidewalk that you've got a snow blower too and this was before I I've got the Big Daddy snow blower side this tiny little boy Morrow all and it was well do you remember that the groundhog day blizzard twenty eleven no no no twenty eleven twenty dollars a year the Packers won the Superbowl in fact the same week I was stuck at work I actually slept over at my brother in law's place right down the street from the old radio station and my wife who you know **** petite young lady with two little babies at home at the time she could not get out of our front door we work she was totally snowed in she had no ability she couldn't that that blower wasn't working she couldn't shovel our next door neighbor who was just a really wonderful guy moved to our our current town to rich came over with his Big Daddy snow blower and literally save her by blowing up half out it was all a side of it Dave says his wife just backed over your snow blower all do you I'm dead serious I've got it's not a tiny little Toro it's it's a bigger one you want to borrow it earn all you have to stay for the animals can crap and I got to get to that party all are you I'll tell you if you do seriously it's sitting there it still works it's just fine I suppose I could be talking about all of this off the air yeah well you know what yeah you want to come over to the party will plan a all right so we are out of time for today show check out my interview with justice gable man it is it is I got to tell you something about that too that I'm definitely not talking about on the radio my interview with Michael Gabel man is up right now Facebook dot com slash Dan o'donnell show at Dan o'donnell show on Twitter as well all right I'm done it's been a long day thank you all for listening I will be back Monday morning remember if you like what you heard this afternoon you don't get a chance to hear me at at nine o'clock I know I know the trump economy everybody's working you don't have time.

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