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"winthrop john" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"You want to hear this. You'll be a little surprised. We'll be right back. See how the sun shines bright on the streets where once was the blue. Welcome back talking to Jonathan Khan, the movie is the harbingers of things to come. You can see it sell them now, dot com. So Jonathan, you were just revealing what you talk about in the film, you call it the mystery of the island and you were referring to the great John winthrop. The governor of the Massachusetts bay colony, how he would have this kind of retreat on governor's island, which is in Massachusetts, which is in Boston bay. He would face Boston and pray for Boston. Okay, now the punchline. In doing so, he's praying for the whole civilization that became America. That's right. That's right. And so but he also the one for those who didn't hear who warned America do not turn for God if you follow God, you're going to be the most blessed nation people. If you turn away, then judgments come. So what happened to John winthrop? What happened to the island of winthrop John with him? The island of John winthrop was subsumed in the 20th century became an airport. The airport is Logan airport, the very place where the planes took off on 9 11 and headed to New York City on the island of the man who warned America. It all started there. This is getting really eerie now. No, it is amazing. These things are absolutely amazing. And it's amazing to me that God has chosen you to reveal these things because you're not making them up. You're just discovering what already exists. It's there. Eric, it's interesting because this is the only interview pretty much. That's in Lower Manhattan where all these things, this all centers here. I mean, the harbingers are here. We're here. I was standing at the ground of ground zero, and that's where it all started. Something said, the spirit said, look, I was looking at this tree that I said, there's something you have to find. You have to seek it, and that's how it all began. I could never reproduce any of it. Even the process, I don't know how to have it. What year was that when you saw the tree? Well, when I saw it, I believe it was 2004. At the end of 2004, that's when I saw it. And that's when it all started. So you got this idea that you need to look into this. Now what remind us for people who haven't read the book or forgot, what was that tree? Because we're talking about ground zero. Yes. So this is where anybody knows history New York knows it started at the bottom. I mean, Wall Street. This was a Dutch Dutch settlement. And it moved up, up, up the island. So in the colonial times, when the country was founded when Washington was inaugurated for the first time, it all happened right there, right there. And he's the one. I mean, he talked about winthrop. He also gave a warning. He also said he's as the smiles of heaven are not going to stay on a nation that disregards God's order and rules of right. That inauguration. And so he's doing that, by the way, since you mentioned that, you know, when 9 11 came, a shockwave came from 9 11, struck the foundation on which Washington gave that warning and broke cracked the foundation where America was federal home. That's federal hall. Yeah, happened right there. And so, and so the other thing is the other thing about Washington is that he led the nation. He led the first government from that place to a place to dedicate America to God. That is and that place where America was dedicated to God on that first day ends up being ground zero. And that is one of the biblical templates that it returns to the place. Well, on that place, you mentioned what that was. On that place, in that courtyard of St. Paul's chapel, was this tree, the sycamore, and the Bible won't go into all, but the Bible, and the harbinger warrants, it says, one of the things that happens in Israel's judgment, he says, the sycamore is struck down. So there was literally a sycamore ground zero struck down. That's what I saw. That's what started all. That's what I saw. Then it says, but the people say we will plant this other tree in its place strong we're coming back with a stronger tree. And so two years later, that tree appears the biblical trees called an arrow street appears in the ground. They have a ceremony, and that is that is another harbinger because they do exactly. They're not trying to do it. They're just doing it. And so unwittingly recreating this ancient history this template because so the sycamores knock down at St. Paul's. And people have visited St. Paul's. Which is in Lower Manhattan, but you're saying retreat was knock down, and they decide, okay, we'll plant another tree. Yeah. What are they planning? A specific tree. It's a biblical error street, which is translated Cedar, same exact same tree as in the ancient template of judgment. So they plant the same tree on the replacing the sycamore same thing, and but here's a follow-up, which is in the movie because this happened after I wrote the harbinger. You know, one of the signs of the Bible of a warning a nation that's in judgment is the withering away of a tree. You know, we know that from the well, what happened to that tree is called the tree of home America coming back. It started to wither away. And whatever they tried to do, they couldn't stop it. They tried to they put new ground. It didn't matter. The whole thing was like cursed, withered away. Finally, that tree was struck, actually fell on a Hebrew holy day. It fell on Passover that night, the moon turned blood red and other sign from the Bible, but a symbol when the air is free, which is the Cedar. When that falls, you see, again again in the Bible, that's speaking about the warning of a fall of a nation. That happened after the harbinger. That's one of the things I show in the movie and people can actually see it. Well, I mean, so it sounds like we get these warnings and warnings like the nation is falling, so where do you see hope? The only hope, the only hope is not well in number one, God is the only hope. There's as long as there's God there's hope. There may be a time where you say stop praying for these people. You know, and sometimes we feel like are we at that point. But the thing is that God always one of the things when we read second chronicles 7 14. Interesting. If you read the verse before, it says, if I send a plague on the land, and then it says, if my people were called by the name. So God shakes the nation, but people say he's their hope. I said, well, if there wasn't hope, why would there be shaking? If there wasn't a widely warning, why you want someone if there's no hope. So as long as there is, but there's a big if. You know, first of all, it's my people. Because you alluded to this before. If the church was doing what it was supposed to be doing, if we were the light we were supposed to be, it could never get this dark. If we were the salt, it could never get this rotten. So the thing is it really lies first with us. So if we and there is a weakness in the church right now, there is a dilution in the church right now. And it's kind of like nobody's saying everybody's intimidated to say anything. Well, then how are we going to be the light? We have to be bold. We have to be like Elijah's. We have to rise up. We have to be through. And if there's anything in our life, first of all, we have to get it out. If it's not there, then we can pray for revival. Then we can be agents for revival. Listen, Eric, my feeling is, and you're in this, we're almost together, that this could be the most exciting time, because it allows us to shine. You talk about Bond hoffer. We wouldn't see how great this testimony was if it wasn't so dark with nazism. So this brings out like Paul, this brings out the greatness, so we can be great, but we have to rise to that. We have to choose it. Well, there's no question and I do, I really do think that many in the church have stepped back in the same way that German pastors stepped back when the Nazis came in and they thought, you know what? I'm going to let somebody else fight. I'm going to let somebody else argue, I'm just going to go along to get along. And that attitude ends up being disastrous would be a nice word for it..
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Rabbi Jonathan Cahn Is in Studio to Detail Some Amazing Revelations
"Back talking to Jonathan Khan, the movie is the harbingers of things to come. You can see it sell them now, dot com. So Jonathan, you were just revealing what you talk about in the film, you call it the mystery of the island and you were referring to the great John winthrop. The governor of the Massachusetts bay colony, how he would have this kind of retreat on governor's island, which is in Massachusetts, which is in Boston bay. He would face Boston and pray for Boston. Okay, now the punchline. In doing so, he's praying for the whole civilization that became America. That's right. That's right. And so but he also the one for those who didn't hear who warned America do not turn for God if you follow God, you're going to be the most blessed nation people. If you turn away, then judgments come. So what happened to John winthrop? What happened to the island of winthrop John with him? The island of John winthrop was subsumed in the 20th century became an airport. The airport is Logan airport, the very place where the planes took off on 9 11 and headed to New York City on the island of the man who warned America. It all started there. This is getting really eerie now. No, it is amazing. These things are absolutely amazing. And it's amazing to me that God has chosen you to reveal these things because you're not making them up. You're just discovering what already exists. It's there. Eric, it's interesting because this is the only interview pretty much. That's in Lower Manhattan where all these things, this all centers here. I mean, the harbingers are here. We're here. I was standing at the ground of ground zero, and that's where it all started. Something said, the spirit said, look, I was looking at this tree that I said, there's something you have to find. You have to seek it, and that's how it all began. I could never reproduce any of it. Even the process, I don't know how to have it. What
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"winthrop john" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"Order now with promo code Eric at my pillow dot com that's my pillow dot com promo code Eric. Welcome back, we're talking to rabbi Jonathan Khan, author of many books, including the harbinger, the harbinger two, son of harbinger, just kidding. No. Harbinger meets avenue Costello meet harbinger, the film is called the harbingers of things to come. It's available at Salem now, dot com, all kinds of other stuff in here. When you talk about the jubilee of abortion, which we just covered, you were relating that to the Supreme Court overturning roe V wade, and there's no question that is utterly historic. I mean, it's a monumental thing that something which was a bad law, not just because abortion is evil, but the law itself was bad. It was a high handed overreach by the judiciary to legislate something. It has no business being found in the constitution. It's just complete nonsense. But to have that actually overturned in our lifetimes, thanks to Donald Trump, who appointed three originalists to the Supreme Court. Yes. Yeah, a few things. One is, and remember we once talked about a thing called the paradigm. I think that I'm just going to say one thing about that. I won't go, yeah. What's one of your books? Yeah. Yeah. And one of the things about Donald Trump is I saw that he's following with America. He kept following this pattern of jehu jehu was the wild guide. And he comes up while the nation's falling away from God. But the one thing that one thing that jehu does, which is if he only did that, it would be enough. Is he opposes the worship of bail, which is the offering of child sacrifice. So the thing is that so jehu actually causes the temple of bail to fall. Donald Trump, as you said, he's the one who appointed the three Supreme Court Justices and by that act he caused roe versus way to fall. Just according to that, if that's the only thing he did, correct. That would be more than enough. That's right. But the other thing, we're just going to say we're speaking about hope, too. One of the things I speak about in the movie too is about hoping that when what does God say, well, he says, if my people. Now, and I noted two times in American history when God literally honored that. There was actually a national day of prayer and repentance. And God turned the whole nation around. One was during the Civil War, and one was Lincoln, literally saved America, and the other was actually something called Washington for Jesus 1980. It's a whole thing, but it was when America was falling apart, Carter, and the hostages, and God put in Ronald Reagan, but there was a gathering before that. And actually, when Ronald Reagan had his hand on the Bible, it was on a scripture. If my people who are called by my name, which was that so but something I was led to do with others, Eric, during this lockdown. We like to call for a gathering on the national mall called the return. And I'm just going to say this and I'm not saying we're anything and I'm not saying it's all the prayers of God's people that God did something. The one vote that overturned roe versus wade, it was one vote because 6 to three was about the law, but 5 to four was the one that overturned rovers. It was one vote. It was the last, the last one he nominated, which was Amy Barrett. When he nominated that, that was the vote that did it. Well, on the day of the return, the return was September 26th, 2020, and we are pranked. And we're interceding that same day as the day that Donald Trump nominated that vote set that emotion. And we're praying about abortion. And that the very end, I said, let's everybody sound the show far seal everything we did and lord God have your way. It was 5 o'clock. It was four minutes. It was 5 O four. That very minute Donald Trump set in motion, the overturning of abortion. The very minute. I mean, God is. Now the lord does this kind of stuff really to encourage us to let us know you're not whistling in the wind, you are doing things that I see and they matter. And he often gives us these clues and speaks miraculously specifically to encourage us to say, yes, I want you to do that. Yes, you did that and I acted. Oh, there's so much here. Exactly. Well, there are other mysteries revealed in the movie, and I want to say again, Salem now dot com. A lot of great stuff there, but the harbingers of things to come. Is it harbingers plural? Yes. Okay, it is. The harbingers of things to come. Were you just going to say something before I leaped into this? Well, we're on the same page. He has to, he does it that way so that you noted. If he didn't do it exactly, you might not notice it. He's encouraging us. I believe what he did with the overturning rovers weight is an encouragement to the entire body. Listen, go forward, be bold. Don't be don't be on the defense beyond the offense. The mystery of the island. That's very provocative. Did we talk about that last time? I don't remember. Well, here's the thing. You know very well, John winthrop. John winthrop is really the grandfather. No, I do remember this, but this is too good. Please repeat this. Well, John winthrop, he's the one who said, at the very beginning of America, he gives a prophetic word a prophetic call. He says, we shall be as a city on a hill. That's where Ronald Reagan got it from, of course, from Masai. But he says, if we follow God, we'll be the most blessed nation. So it's all happened. It all happened. But people forget that he gave a warning. Okay, but this was 1630. Yes. And he was the governor of the Massachusetts bay colony, and he really set speaking of templates. He set the template for America, not Jamestown. It was set in Plymouth and in Massachusetts bay colony, and he's quoting Jesus that we will be a city on a hill. So he did that from a place in Boston. Yes. And he then gave a warning. He said, but if we turn away from our God, then the same judgments that came on Israel will come upon America. And I didn't read that when I wrote the harmony, but that's exactly what the harbinger and all those things are saying. Right. So the thing is you said that. Now the thing is people don't realize there was an actual city on a hill. It wasn't actually, in other words, there was a city. And you just alluded to it. The city was Boston, and that's where he's the founder of Boston, and he was there. He lived there. And as the governor and he lived there. And so he not only lived there, but he had an island. It was called governor's island. It was his eye. On that island, he would face Boston, he would pray for America pray for the future all that. When 9 11 came, well, let me put this. This is called a cliffhanger folks. You're going to want to hear the rest of this. Trust me because I know where Jonathan is going..
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"winthrop john" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"Why i always black their kids. It's to talk to my friend. Jonathan cahn johnson. Your books harbinger paradigm harbinger to and so on and so forth you talk about parallels anything just since we've been talking about stuff anything you wanna talk about that relates to let me let me throw one thing in 'cause we touched on something and one thing i i'm blessed about you eric is you. Don't you don't care you don't compromise. Which many do you know many ways. We touched on certain issues. You tell them about alvin. Was it you talking about alvin the compromiser. He's a work in progress. Pray for alvin. Okay now we have to joke. I know what you're saying. And i appreciate you putting it that way with that with that we spoke about a the subject of eligibility on there is a there was a day on the hebrew calendar. That was a day when the day when the babylonians broke through the defensive walls of jerusalem and once they did is in the bible's germany once they did it was finished and he's just five eighty seven bc Or five eighty six depending on which which yes okay. So that's roughly what we're talking about. Yes and so in that time. They broke through the defensive walls and it and it wasn't the and yet it was but it meant that once they did it was basically over the the king fled at that day which king That what would have jaw joachim. Most likely at yeah and others there were bad kings at that time but they've fled bowie. This is not the north kingdom of the paradigm in the harder. This the south judah so the thing is we had remind but that was the day was called. it became a day of mourning in the jewish world. It's called the ninth of thomas. The day that the defensive walls of the nation are broken. and now it's open for real destruction. Okay so the days been celebrate. Celebrate commemorated for ages. Okay day of mourning nighttime. Who's the the hedges removes being a month. yes which is named after god. Yes it's a month. It's the hebrew month of tammuz. You know why is a hebrew month named after way. We'll same the same way. Why are our days. Wednesday tuesday german. God's sure january janice and i mean but it's just interesting that even they were a nation of israel would would have because of because of the same language. It was known as that month. So many of the hebrew months are babylonian. Okay so neither thomas all right so now now we have a number of years. Ago was a major event that really has has has altered. Things has opened the door things. And that was the supreme court in america's for this is of course after the harbinger america's falling away from god has accelerated and when the supreme court when we struck down the biblical definition of marriage and the historic definition of marriage. You telling me. I shouldn't celebrate that. Take down in rain rain. Who is so sweet. Please continue yes so The with this. So this happened on june twenty-sixth Two thousand fifteen but on the biblical calendar. It was the ninth of thomas the day that the hedge is removed the day that the wall is broken the day that the nation becomes open to judgement and that was a unique moment in american history. Because we've been Messed up presentation in many ways but we have never officially officially done anything quite like that. I like that. Yeah and that has listened that has led to where we are. Now that has led to the laws changing schools for you. That was the ninth of ten. Well imagine for me. It was yeah. It was the night of moose. Yeah i mean he was the. It was the date that that was the day they did on that day. Whoa whoa whoa. Whoa whoa have. You thought about writing about this stuff. Yeah i kinda did come on. Which book is that. This is the harbinger to okay so in the harbor to electric gulu. You say that the day the supreme court did that. June twenty six two thousand fifteen was in fact. Also the ninth of ten years. That is freaky. I miss that. That is freaky. Though the day that it's morning the day that the hedge of the nation is removed. And that is what leads to judgement of that nation. That's the day it happened. Nice all right so Yeah now now let me get another thing with the kind of the bigger picture you know in that. Is that america and we all have this. America was founded after god is unique unique. I mean because nations have god or worship but in america from the conception of the puritans was founded. I only know two nations of the world. One is israel the others america. Look this is a fact. Yeah you don't have to like it but it's a fact you you you you hate it. You can hate america. You could hate israel we do whatever you want but you cannot deny that this is true. Yeah that this nation was uniquely and explicitly founded on the god of the bible and with his Blessing in other words. They never would have just said. Oh these are some biblical principles. This was it was it was an explicit covenant with god of the scripture. Yeah and i mean it's unique and really when you look at america's uniqueness and greatness it all comes back to that. Even when he became sec more secular it was still trying to be a light to the world based on that original thing so the first ones were the puritans founded and the key and that was john winthrop john winthrop. If george washington called the father of the nation. he's been called the grandfather. He came over in sixteen thirty At leading the pure nexus there and he was considered like the moses of this movement and walk while on the ship. They are bella. He pens he pens. The document called A model of christian charity which is the first time he says. And this is this is the. This is the longest symbol of america. Ever i mean from the beginning It he said we shall be as a city on a hill and that from jesus city on a hill the eyes of the world looking at us and but but what people know that it's in other words if we follow god he's he goes on to say. The blessings of israel will be upon us. We will be. We will put our enemies to flight will be prosperous. We will be american. The most prosperous powerful nation he said he prophesied and america was. Here's another thing that america was founded not only to god was founded after the pattern of israel. It was to be that and so it's amazing that we've also followed the fall of israel and now we're seeing the signs of israel so what what people don't say what they miss is right after. He said that he gave a warning he said but if we turn away from our god if we follow other gods if we turn away then basically. He's the judgements that came on israel. He's taken it from deuteronomy. Twenty eight and thirty. Four moses's will come upon america. We'll be right back old.