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"winifred" Discussed on Backlisted
"It's so great. Yes, indeed. Well, listen before we wind up. Last week I read winifred holtby's book, the astonishing island, which no one had borrowed from the library for 30 years. Never been republished and una McCormack you read this as well. I've got my own copy now, but I booked a special trip to Newton college library to read the copy. I sat there in the library there in red and my extra deep dive into winifred healthier. So I'm going to do this. I just like to read this one bit from near the beginning. This is a satirical novel in the kind of tradition of H.G. Wells and regular listeners will hear me rolling my eyes as I say this. Patrick Hamilton's impromptu in Moro bandia. Where you wouldn't expect this author to write this kind of book, but it's really funny, isn't it? It's genuinely funny, some proper laughs in this. And in terms of so the idea is, it's about a man called Robinson lipping tree Macintosh in the tradition of Robinson Crusoe and gulliver, who lands on an astonishing island which may well be the United Kingdom. He's washed up on a beach and this is what he finds. Those not occupied with papers in some form were supervising the labor of young children, who were employed at digging trenches and mounds, and irrigating the sand, et cetera and I thought at first that these people must be mad to employ child labor to till the land where no crops grow, but I learned afterwards that it is the nature of the islanders to mimic labor for pleasure, as I shall presently explain. Directly I struggle to the shore, or being almost exhausted, a man laid his hand upon me and led me into a large building where I thought he would offer me food and shelter so went gladly, but he shouted, I understood the right foreigners to the left. Have you anything to declare any perfume, cigarettes, matches, artificial silk, optical instruments tomatoes, motor cars, imported grapes, or copies of the well of loneliness. And I said no. I said no, I had nothing but my trousers, which were wet. Through having used my shirt as a sail and he said, you can't sunbathe here, and I said, I see I can't. There's no sun. And I explained that I was shipwrecked. And I told him that I was not the only shipwreck wretch landed from the storm, for I had seen 5 or 6 unhappy women. One with a small child and one of venerable appearance, who crawled half naked and blew with cold from the waves just after me. Yet not one island that went to help them all show compassion for their terrible plight. And when I pointed out to the man who had so strangely questioned me about motor cars and imported grapes, he said, help them? Oh no, we can't interfere with the ladies nowadays, not that I approve of mixed bathing myself. And indeed, I soon learned that this was no accident that the women had removed their warm clothes and entered of their own free will into the water, cutting their feet upon the shingle and suffering agonies from cold and misery in order to give themselves pleasure. And yes, ladies and gentlemen, that is winifred holtby on the topic of wild swimming there, Mickey. So still satirical and still valid. And not totally not in print the astonishing island, but I really, really enjoyed that. And now we must leave the sea cliffs and the rolling farmland of the south riding behind us. And of a huge thanks to Tonya and to una for allowing us to roam freely across this wonderful novel to Nikki birch for braiding a single story out of our voices and to unbound for all the bacon cake..
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"winifred" Discussed on Backlisted
"And what you're going to hear is Hester sondergaard as Sarah Burton, who has just helped Robert Khan deliver a calf in the middle of the night. Oh, great, see. And they've repaired to his house to talk through the night they've had. And you're going to hear Robert Khan here played by none other than Charles Lawton. No, this room is beautiful. It has dignity in the half light of the fire and the candle flame is not so pretty bidet. This big house is crumbling to pieces over my head. That's the portrait over the mantle. Her eyes. She was the loveliest woman, I have ever known. I loved her for my first meeting, her beauty and her courage in her laughter. I never really understood it. She was always a stranger to me, she was like some wild thing reckless. And enchanted. She rode like the wind and danced and went her own way, but first it was travel, bear its Monte Carlo, Baden Baden, via we lived extravagantly, hunting all winter, fishing sometimes in no way I could afford it, though. And I was happy. But when midge was born, all that changed. Muriel lost her balance. And since then, she's been shut away. I blame myself. She didn't want the child. Perhaps she never even loved me. I don't know. I shall never know. I loved her, and that was enough. Since then, I've mortgaged most of tinted with daughters education, drained the farm to the last penny that the house got a rock and roll in to see that she has every luxury of treatment and comfort and money can buy. Oh, she isn't beautiful now. After 14 years, I won't fail, though, if I have to sacrifice everything. Wow. That whole scene is completely out of character for him as well. He would never say subtly emoting there in front of a court after the cow. Right, so it's an adaptation that condenses the 500 page south riding to one hour of drama. Hold our. Not 30 hours like Yorkshire TV or three hours like the BBC, but a whole hour is devoted to it. I wonder could we talk a little bit about some of winifred holtby's other work before we have to wind up?.
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"Is a story of Yorkshire life it centers around a county council and, as winifred holtby herself wrote, the effect of bylaws and resolutions on the lives of people like haulage contractors corn dealers and small town drapers. It is full of hunting and agricultural shows and relieving officers and drainage schemes and all the things that make up country life. Put it in my face. First, those who are already familiar with quotes the administrative country of York, the local government of which forms an unobtrusive background to the story. Know that the south riding is in fact nonexistent, that this romantic region has been historically emitted from an area divided into northeast and west. The industrial smoke blackened west riding of Phyllis Bentley's novels forms no part of winifred holtby's English landscape. The north and the east ridings have lent their crashing seas. Their sweeping walls to give sound and color to this gracious and compassionate story. Once again, if you are listening to this and you don't want to immediately read south riding, there is something wrong with you. Something is wrong with you. Didn't she find, didn't she find that she found all the sort of papers in her mother's waste paper. Of all of all the council minutes. Her mother had to her grieving mother had to resign from the council the whole story about so there's like a kind of a fraud plot with buying land to defraud the council from money. That was all based on a real story where someone committed suicide. So it's like properly he's serious scandal. What I love about winifred holtby, I've got to say, actually funnily enough is she takes no shit. If you read her other work, her journalism and her short stories. Actually, her voice is remarkably flexible in terms of what she can turn her hand to. And the extent to which she's, she pursues an idea that she feels is true. And that adds to the sense of self riding as a Trojan horse, I think. I think I learned a lot by reading other things by her about how capable she was of doing all sorts of other things. Rather than turning her hand to quote unquote, a middle brow novel, which requires its own set of skills, but it's very clear artistic political social.
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"winifred" Discussed on Backlisted
"Passings away. No, there's a sort of positivity that she has in her descriptions. I think maybe it's because she's brilliant at doing, although I'll read later is a great example of this of the landscape and the sense of the just the cups and sauces and bread and butter and pints of beer the bits and pieces of people's lives. Kind of the comfort that people take, the small comfort, even you mentioned the Lee soden, who's incredibly unwell through the whole book and martyrs herself by not telling anybody that she's unwell. But even that she manages somehow there's an amazing sequence where she she's obviously on opium. And she's kind of just drifting and it's kind of keatsian in the way that she people pass like shadows in a fog. She had no contact with them if she spoke she could not remember what she said. So I think there's a, in the same way that she's politically very balanced. You know, she explains why it is the Labor Party don't get through to people who work on farms. The khans people who can't who are more harsh on people who they think getting benefits than the Tory politicians. Anybody wanted to say, give me a novel which enshrines the best of democracy. Both in terms of her vision as a novelist, but also in terms of her vision, as you said earlier, Andy of society, it south rises. Artistic democracy right, uno. There's absolutely. She manages to tread a path between the modernism of Virginia Woolf, which she is tremendously familiar with. And the kind of boots lending library, middle brow female novel, as it would have been, you know, this book is deliberately designed to be something of a Trojan horse, right? The idea is it takes on the characteristics of the middle brow novel of the era, while being full of very subversive things. But it's really interesting that as to how mom didn't want it to be published because the character of older man misses betos is based on her mom, Alice hoppy, and winifred died very Britain was wanted to get the book published and Alice was really against it because she knew it was going to be embarrassing for her because when a fritter used real things had happened in the east riding. And I think Alice helped me write something like oh I really wish that I could have made good of edited it so it would have been more like the story of the 1938 film, which is much more like a middle brow story, isn't it? Like it's got a kind of a happy ending and yeah and with a kind of an affirmation of Britain together, presumably on the verge of war. It's in harmony with a much less good book. The jubilee is the jubilee feels very, very relevant, doesn't it? Yes, ambivalent view of Britain together. Well, I'm going to read a blurb in a minute, but as you mentioned in the 1938 film adaptation. So the novel was a big success when it was published, and as a result of which they made a film quite quickly. Quite as an important British film of its era in as much as it was a lot of it was filmed on location, which is very unusual. We've got a clip here. This is, you're going to hear Edna best and Ralph Richardson amongst others. This is a scene where our heroine is being interviewed by the local town council for the job of headmistress at the local.
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"You can spread happiness. You can spread you can build something positive and not destructive. It's a really clever book. I just want to read something. John talked about how reading the novel knowing that she was so ill when she was writing it, kind of contextualized it in a way. Listeners might want to fast forward by about two minutes because the bit I'm about to read contains some heavy spoilers. So go forward about two minutes. But our friend Peter fyfield, who is at birkbeck, is the author of a book called modernism and physical illness, sick books. Which is terrific, has essays on D.H. Lawrence Virginia Woolf T.S. Eliot Dorothy Richardson and winifred holtby, and the chapter on winifred holtby is entitled winifred holtby and the fevered middle brow. And I just want to read the beginning of this because I think John will find this totally captivating. This is what Peter 5 field says about winifred holtby and south riding. He says winifred holtby's premature death from kidney failure is a prominent feature of her authorial image. Suffering from bright's disease, she died at the age of 37 after an extended period of debilitation. And especially purple review of the posthumous success south riding, tied the author's illness directly to her literary abilities, quote we can not avoid remembering that all the time she was writing it, she must have known that it would be her last. The knowledge has not given it any twist or morbidity, but it has given it a sort of passionate richness of love, comprehension and compassion that is like the scent of dark red roses. To a similarly eulogistic end, Vera Britain keenly shaped her friend's image, notably with the memoir of their relationship testament and friendship published in 1940. This enshrines holtby as a model of saint like patients who wrote her masterpiece while enduring sickness with determination selflessness and good cheer, Britain writes that, quote, in one sense, she welcomed her last illness for the kinship that it gave her with other victims of pain. South riding itself is well stocked with sickness. This is the spoiler everybody missed this bit, seeming to confirm its authors growing preoccupation. Amongst the novels many afflicted characters, Robert Khan suffers from angina pectoris, misses Holly dies shortly after childbirth, gertie Holly dies of a relapse following a mastoid operation. Lily sodden dies of cancer, Nell huggins has rheumatism, mister brinsley has died of.
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"winifred" Discussed on Backlisted
"I haven't found anywhere that winifred holtby has said, oh, I really love middle March and I want to write a version of it for Yorkshire in the 1930s. But I can't see how she could have not had it in mind. I think one of the things about this novel is if you had to sum it up in one line or what winifred hobby was trying to say. It is that there is such a thing as society. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. That the private and personal and political can not in fact be divided because they all influence one another and they in turn affect the life prospects of different members of your community and your society. I love your comparison to middlemarch there. I mean my comparison to ragged trouser philanthropist is nothing more than it's a load of both she propaganda. Members of the Labor Party might disagree. Una McCormack tell people how much you've read. To get ready for this episode, you are amazing. We called you hurricane una tell us. You see, I've had all her books stacked up, and I've been working through them slowly. I read poor Caroline and Mandarin door and I read astonishing island. I watched most TV adaptations, I watched the movie. I watched testament of youth, the 70s one. I really recommend that. And I read what else did I read. I read a red oh her book about women, women in a changing civilization. Oh, and testament of friendship. I had a dream. Did you read the Virginia Woolf book? I'd read that before. Yeah. And yet you have nothing to say about winifred holtby. I've got a dead end. What is winifred holtby to you? Because I remember you mentioning this to me years ago, right? So you came up with the idea for this episode. I thought of you immediately because I could remember you saying if you ever do when if it helped, you know, I'd love to be part of it. I was doing a review of a book of it was a collection of articles from The Guardian women's page. And it was actually, it was by Kira Cochrane, it was recent journalism, but as is my won't, I went off in red around the subject and I found a collection edited by Mary stott, who had been editor of that page till 1972, and she was in that collection she'd collected journalism from the first half of The Guardian woman's page. And the essays that stood out to me were the ones by winifred holtby..
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"Let me show you the names, right? Super. It's taken me 6 years, but finally Roy kinnear has appeared on brilliant. That's from the 1974 TV adaptation of south riding, adapted by Stan bosto or through a kind of loving and other great northern texts. And I think most of us have watched this version of me. I watched it because you recommend it to me. And Tanner, you've seen it, haven't you? I think John, you did on YouTube. Absolutely loved it. It's really good. 13 hours of vt, but tremendous for all that. Yeah, it puts the actors forward, doesn't it? So that it doesn't, it doesn't cut some of the smaller stories. So about the sword and the mitchells he really, you spent some time with those characters. And a proper proper missed so faithful. So John what book are we talking about? We're talking about south riding by winifred holtby. And it was published in 1936, and as we said earlier, she died 5 months before it was it was published. Our former guest, doctor Matthew sweet, has described it as a depression era middle March. And I describe it as a feminist ragged trouser philanthropist. Both of those things. First of all, I love reading the novel and second of all, I loved learning more about winifred holtby actually about whom I knew very little. Astonishing story, isn't it? Amazing. When did you, this was you wanted us to talk about this book. Yeah. When did you first read south riding? Where were you? Where were you? What were you doing? So I first heard about it because I, when I was training to be a librarian, one of my fellow trainees was reading it and I asked her about it. What it was about because I'd never heard of it and she said, oh, it's about a local council. And I thought this was absolutely hilarious because I was a massive book snob. Having just done an English degree and just kind of laughed and didn't think anything else of it. And then fast forward about 5 years I was working in the British library and I was doing an exhibition about the English or the British landscape in literature. And I ended up putting self riding in it so I read it for that and I got absolutely obsessed with it and partly because my previous great obsession middle March. I thought there's so there are so many similarities between them that I find really fascinating. So they've both got these kind of taglines. So self riding has an English landscape, a middle March has a study of provincial life. So I think those kind of complement each other. They were both they both have 8 parts. They're set exactly a hundred years apart, so 1832, 1932. Oh my God. That's true. Excellent. They both had involved coming of the railway. And huge kind of social change and also the way that all the characters are so kind of interconnected. So a tiny action of one character can have this huge kind of rippling effect in the community..
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"winifred" Discussed on Backlisted
"Are you going to play this boy's game? She slaps her legs. Okay, let's not be serious. Let's play boys games. Now, no, no, the interviewer interjects, but it's too late. She's reaching beneath her chair for something, and she pulls out a water pistol and her voice is rising now. My God, I'm brilliant at boys games. She squirts the interviewer, has a hand up to protect himself and turns absolutely brilliant and she squirts the songwriter who also has a hand up. All three of them are smiling, but something has been unleashed very, very quickly. The atmosphere is electric, and alerts, all eyes on the woman, and what she might do next. The audience applauds. Cut. That's my rock and roll friend. So called because Tracy proves that her friend can be rock and roll and more scary and more dangerous and more unsettling than anyone else in that book. So that's published by canon gate and it's out at the moment and it's brilliant. John, what have you been reading this week? Well, as promised, I ready now to talk about the books of Jacob. Olga took out. We've been building up gone. Well, it's a 900 page novel of genius. It does sort of live up to its billing. It's the book that won her the Nobel Prize for literature. Is it where I would start with Olga to gotcha? No. I start with flights. Or drive your plow over the bones of the dead. Yeah, yeah. So this is a historical novel set in 1750s Poland, which essentially might as well be medieval Poland because one of the great movements in this book is from a kind of medieval worldview to a kind of enlightenment worldview. The story is about a real person called Jacob Frank, who was believed himself to be the second coming he was Jewish, believed himself to be the second coming, the messiah, and started a cult. And so it's a book about belief and about, but it's also a book about science, one of the other main characters is a brilliant bibliophile called father Jim Los who was a real person and wrote a book that.
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"And roll is perceived as a boy thing. And. Despite my lifelong battle, not to be seen as a bloke, I read this book and thought, um, I am guilty of some of the behaviors within this. And even at the HS Nikki's nodding, you are Andy. At the age of like 53, I thought you can always get you can always do better, right? I don't really like the go betweens, so it might be easier for me than it might be for some of our listeners to take this book on its own terms because one of the things it does is it talks about Robert forster and grant mclennan. And who were the songwriters in the go betweens, but it tries to recontextualize them, not as the leaders of the group, but of two of the members of the group. Trying to say the go betweens would not have been the go betweens. Without the chemistry influence, musical contributions, of Lindy Morrison. But it's in the nature of how we talk about rock and roll, or many art forms, to marginalize not just women, but also drummers. This is a very pro drama book. So really Tracy's book is a sort of very witty readable polite corrective. It's telling the story of a group that you think you might know about and the role of a woman within a group that you think you might understand in a different way. And I found it incredibly thought provoking. Also, I've got to say in the chapter good girl, Tracy quotes from the following authors in this order, Claire deidre, Deborah levy, Ricky Lee Jones, Simone de beauvoir Andes Vader and nita bruckner and Kim Ada. Wright, so she is very much in the Andy Miller zone of interest there, so thank you very much, Tracy Thorne..
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"And he ripped out once he'd finished reading. He'd rip it out and bend the rest. I've done that. I haven't been it. I haven't been to. I was going on a long haul flight, and I'd been reading the golden notebook, which is quite a hefty. Doris lesson. Yes. I only had about 50 pages left to go. So in my defense, it was a really, really cheap paperback issue. It was practically broken anyway. So I cut it down the spine. Yeah. And I left the big picture home. My stomach is lurched. I'm in pain. I'd got it for $2 or something in a bookseller. Did you send me it back afterwards? No, I think it's, I think it's just on the shelf in two bits. The thing is though, right? I know there's no right or wrong way to do this. But I can't stand that thing that you see people saying, oh, books deserve to be loved. No, they've been old. They've been scrunched up, and I stuck them down the lab and I showed how much I loved them by bashing them with a hammer and to prove that I'd read them, right? Was that fine? Nonsense. How do you not break the spine of a really big book? He doesn't read the middle of the book. It's like the last third. Yeah, reading really carefully. I really struggle with paperbacks because of because it is so hard to not break the spine. So do mainly by hardback. That's a good digression. It's going to be a long episode. Right. And thank you very much, Tanya. And the returning guest as a regular listeners will have already recognized the book slayer voice of the book slayer herself. Storm una McCormack. Making her 6th appearance on blacklist is really that many. Having previously joined us for episodes dedicated to Anita brook now. Russell hoban. J.R.R. Tolkien. Terrence dicks and William Golding, that's her 7th appearance, John. You can't count. One, two, three, four, 5, 6..
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"Winifred and Mary were actual real, which is it was actually a mother daughter pair in Salem. But the Sarah, which I don't know where this ear name came to from, so maybe they're just like, all right, Sarah Jessica Parker, we don't want you to get confused. So we're just going to make your character's name Sarah. Hello and welcome to the Halloween episode of medium salt. The 90s nostalgia podcast that takes a look at movies and pop culture from the past. An examines them through a modern lens to see how we've grown as individuals and as a community. I am your host Matt and joined by my very good friend and fellow host. Kate. Today, we are talking about the 1993 film hocus pocus starring Bette Midler, Sarah Jessica Parker and Kathy najimy, and directed by Kenny Ortega. But first..
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"winifred" Discussed on Now Try This
"The movie doesn't always do it and it does a couple more times later i'll mention but i think there's some times where it just like the pacing. I was like just just crank it. Crank yourself up just crank it like a little. Bit like ratchet the tension or go a little quicker or be a little more action heavy or even just have exposition about your feelings. Something something else silence. There was a lot of silence like the witch hunts which i also hate the watch the which which like. But i liked this. It wasn't nearly as bad as the witch. The bitch was which was all silage. The wish was all silence. That was the problem with that was it was I kinda wanna watch. I would watch him do like a star wars movie or something. Oh we would crush it like make. It is pretty looking. Make it officially interesting but then also have the backing of like law and other things. So yes you know like tyco tyco new star wars ryan johnson's star wars patel would be so good. He's so good at being a night. He's so good at giving that emotional with his face. And lowery let david lougheed lowery direct death patel in a star wars version of this. Move what. I'm say carries a little mashed potatoes. Just a little bit for sure shershukov. Okay so the next part is to go win. So he burst into the ghost winner fred's home and sleeps on their bed and i think that was him failing the courtesy thing and then she also she also asks him to retrieve her head from the lake and he's like what do i get to do for me and then I forgot what she says and then he does it because he's accepting of what he's going to get so dick move. Did you know winifred story at all. All i know is what you said where it's like us. She was like chased by someone because she didn't want to like get married them and they cut her head off. I was literally. This was the point where i was like. I don't know what the puck's going on. I'm just gonna google who the fuck winifred is and as i was googling and reading synopsis of who she was she was articulated. The same thing. I was reading. I was like i guess i didn't need to look. She said adding one of those in the movie was she. They said it was the only place where they gave exposition for anything. Really i feel like so much of the movie. They weren't giving you. They weren't telling you as margaret fade. The just had like the people saying all your mom's a witch and you're like okay. Cool great but oh she's the rich she's the one which that we know about. Okay cool. I guess that would have been more helpful to know. I actually think mortgage phase and fate. Stay night as well a funny. That would make sense. But i but didn't it feel so much better and more payoff. -able that we've The winifred sequence of task was the best one for me..
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"winifred" Discussed on Now Playing - The Movie Review Podcast
"But she said you know. Why won't you make me a lady and he's like i'll give you some gold already. Have your gold. She wins his heart. Yeah yeah yeah right. Yeah i want. I want you. I wanna to be with you and here. That's all she's going to get. Is that gold. And he's walking away. He's essentially bought his child off of her and then married someone. That looks a lot like winifred. It's not the same actress in the credits. She's credited this helen. I know that the poem referenced. Helen of troy. Maybe it's meant to evoke that. But she is the trophy wife. This is the kind of woman you mary. When you're going to be king of england another person of royal lineage which is what is expected in royal families so an almost an arranged marriage beyond win. they're like disrobing and having said like there's like thirty people in the room like helping them and take off your clothes which you would need. Those clothes are really like ornamental. And she kind of looks like the chick from midsummer with that flour dresser. Whatever i don't know how you get in and out of that payroll began. This vision starts to kind of kick into fast forward. We see arthur traveling. The battlefields the tents and is being led to where his son is apparently laying dying from about a wound. It's a real jump. Because i we have the son like it. Looks like he's playing a game. He's like moving little pieces on a map. And then you realize oh that's a war map like daddy is planning an invasion or something like that. Yeah do you like accidentally knocks the pieces offer. Something out yes and then daddy like comes in swoops them up in the next time we see this child who looked all of eight years old. He is now got to be a eighteen twenty year. Old man dying from wounds that he sustained trying to live up to the honor of this battlefield and it gets back to again to that question of honour like we have to blame garwin for even getting into this fight. Yeah we see the scene. Where darwin's lying in bed. He's looking up. There's a lot of things that look like. I don't know if they're supposed to be fox's or some kind of animal with the human face that's pretty common medieval art but we see like it crack in like something's thumping i kept wondering is that the green knight like slowly returning like. I still need that ed. Like at least it's that thought that's haunting garwin Yeah the fox in and all of that and we also had some dialogue when he was there at that. I'll call it the haunted mansion with the lord and the lady that may have not been real. There's a lot of talk about how the world is chaotic. And full of all these weird things where hawk can kill a horse or what have you but man creates walls and it protects him from that so it does. Your like garwin is now living insulated like his whole world. Is this throne room. And the walls are starting to crumble. We'll we'll hear people pounding on doors and plaster falling down and it feels like he's done a lot to try and keep out the battles he wasn't willing to fight. Yeah in the also that conversation. He had with the lady a lot of color. Theories talks about red being like the color of lust and green is what comes after lust and this definitely feels like. Oh you had your true love austerer aside and this is this like slow death that you're now experiencing you know you you hear the term green with envy like he definitely. He is not enjoying this life. I agree that was a very significant monologue that the lady gives him about the meaning of red and green and how he's yeah. He's now entered. The green phase and rot is coming for him. There is no way that he can get out of this. And even his own people are like slinging mud on him when he returns and he basically ended up alone throne room killing himself by removing the green sash and his head lops off and it was all a dream. And i thought that was gonna be the end of the fills. Yeah maybe this is the green showing him what his future could be. Yes spoiler this is a real last temptation of christ..
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"winifred" Discussed on Now Playing - The Movie Review Podcast
"Mental ailments. Is their skull stolen there. Can we dive in there and still the court. I don't think they're gonna let you do that. I i did go watch like a travelogue. Like what does it look like. And it's mostly like sticking your feet in kiddy pool kind of comes off as it should be said we've seen this actress plays when fred re re talked about her in falcon in the winter soldier. She led this flag smashers. Yeah aaron kelly men she was like carly i think such a strange naperville and carly the super bad villain yes. She's popping up all kinds of big property. She was also in solo star. Wars story is one of the the main villains that was chasing him around. Yeah so is she a bill in here. she's a ghost. It definitely comes off as a threat. We will see garwin slip into her cabin. Go upstairs take a nap and he is woken by this fourteen year. Old girl who claims she doesn't have a head and is floating around. Yeah when she does that move. It seems like she's floating towards them and then he goes out to touch. Don't touch me. Like i'm like okay. She's a ghost when there's also an another meaning to that night should know better than to touch me like that is again that christian value of don't take a woman without being given permission and you know like the value of his night them is at stake here. Every challenge is a test of whether he deserves to be called a night. Yeah he fails every time. Like she's like you gotta go get my head and he's like well i get for it like no. That's not chivalry. Yes what's in it for me. Yeah why would you even ask me that that. That is a moment. That really like yeah. I can't believe that you would like someone just said someone cut off my head and it's in the spring and your first question is i can get it but for how much that's pretty tacky so again. Even though i don't know what the five virtues are with that star and everything. I'm getting it. There's little lessons going on. Here is go from place to place and that color theory is popping up to. He'll jump into the water it's green and then he sees the skull and it turns red christmas colors. But what does it all mean. We're still waiting for those answers. But he will produce the skull and he's been followed around by a fox too well. This'll be the second encounter where fox is watching him as he brings it back upstairs will follow him as he goes upstairs and puts the head back on the headless skeleton. That's now laying in the bed. I guess that skeleton wasn't there when he climbed into the bed. I'd be very weird. Maybe it was a and also just another note towards the art direction. No like this soon as he puts that skeleton back in place the sun begins to rise so like every scene here. Everything on screen feels very deliberate. Here's a character that lost her head and is a martyr but now again if you believe the legend her spring brings healing and health. And all of that. And here's someone that's more virtuous than this night like you should accept your destiny that you're not gonna live through this because it'll mean that your name is honorable and honors worth more than whatever you material things you acquire in your life. Your life is going to be short and in the end. No matter what you do you're gonna lose your head. So why not be a martyr. Why not be someone that exist for the right cause. That's certainly what winifred seems to represent of me not dimension in our theory and legend. i don't again. This is all high school english class but there was a lady in the lake right. That gave arthur. Yeah that's the one that gave excalibur. Yeah like so like this.
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"winifred" Discussed on X96
"Halloween Halloween is coming up and people people are worrying and wondering and thinking about their costumes. Uh, what? What do you think? What was your most successful? Halloween costume member carry the one that you really like. I had a couple, uh, that I was really happy with I I did Beetlejuice one year and that went well. I seem to remember seeing a picture of that. And, uh, Ghostbusters. When is a ghostbuster that took a while. And then soon I did couples costumes where we were Alfred Hitchcock movies. She was the birds and I was like, Oh, I remember that that was great. Okay. She like glue to bird door, Ted. She got the same outfit that Tippi Hendren had. And then she glued burns all over. And then how are you psyched? I just had a long dress on and a gray wig and a knife. Oh, you were Norman as his mother. I see Gina. You don't never do a costume, do you? I'm a witch you put on a you put on a witch is happening Where a witch's hat. I'm a watch. You're not fully committing. No, you're not. And I don't do anything anymore. I I really I find it distasteful. She's up. Shit. I don't care for Halloween costumes. I mean, it's okay for others. If you want to do it, that's great. I just don't care to do it myself. I don't like it anymore. Well, you know, when I was a kid, I had fun with it. But Katie you uh what do you What is your been your most successful so disappointed in you guys? Because dressing up is like the best thing in the world Does it? No, I'm not disappointed and carry it all hell addressed my dog up as Freddy Krueger. Thank you. That's beautiful. My most successful ones have been my custom made Mrs Lovett costume that I made with my aunt Mrs Lovett. Sweeney, Todd and Mrs Lovett. Okay, And then I also did a custom made Winifred Sanderson from Hocus pocus with my aunt. Now, maybe the hocus focus when people would get But you're going around as Mrs Lovett 90% of the people who see you are not going to know who you are, and you're going to have to say, Well, I'm from Sweeney Todd and I baked people in the meat pie. That's fine, because I get to walk around the rolling pin and pretend to smash things. I also have Mrs Lovett tattooed on my foot. Well, if you want to look at my foot, I mean, it just seems to me if you're gonna do a Halloween costume. Probably people ought to be able to look at it and go. Oh, certain people did a lot of people, actually, surprisingly because the movie came out with Helena bottom, Carter and Johnny up a lot of people actually know about it more. Uh, but I think the last time I did a really went all out to do a Halloween costume was this will tell you how long ago it was. I was the white salamander. So you had to explain that? No, I didn't. You didn't know because it was in the news all over the place because of Mark Hoffman bombing, you know, killing those people over the book of Mormon, and that's the white salamander profit prophecies and I had a long white tail and white tights and the tight white shirt and white makeup and I was carrying these golden Dinner plates with me The golden plates. That was I was the whites elements, not the kind of costume that you could do anywhere other no than here. No, absolutely not. I and I went to a Halloween party and everybody went You're the white salamander. It's hilarious. But then I didn't have not done one since. I think I had this list here of the most searched Halloween costumes for people who are not creative, and they're looking to buy a costume. You want to hear this list? Just looking to buy a costume, okay? I guess. Imagine we could probably guess it's uh, I suppose you people searching these these costumes. They either want to buy a costume or they want to picture that They want to try and do it, But it's probably they're just looking to buy it. So what do you think the number one is? This year Joker? Yes. No, I would think, Joeli. I think I know it. I think it's funny. Wise. Yeah. Pennywise the clown. Yeah, it's it's so popular jokers got to be up there. I wouldn't be surprised. Let me see. You know what? How about it is not. How about judges, robes and a can of beer? You're Brett Kavanaugh. There you go. Easy costume. But you know, Joker is not in the top 10. Get the hat with the two beers on the Oh, yeah. There you go. Well, it could be that this survey was taken before the movie. Yeah, Yeah, The movies just just come out a number 10. Don't know why this is Unicorn. We'll hear corners, are you that's Mohammed's being a unicorn for that's awesome number nine, the 19 eighties. So in other words, you just try and dress in 1919 eighties. You look like you stepped out. I have a feeling people do that because they do like eighties parties Number eight. Chuckie. Yeah, the new one. Just one child. Let's just add a little bit actually read a review that they said it wasn't half bad. I did, too. But I still kind of didn't see it. Fortnite your bad horror fan. Just the remake. Nothing you know, was as popular as Fortnite is. I don't think I've ever looked at it for a second, So I don't know what we're costume from Fortnite would be. Well, that's the things that you make your own character in there. I was going to stay with Fortnite. When I was the manager at Mask I had people coming in. I wanted to be this character is I don't know who that is A clown. Just just any old clown is Number six. Number five. Descendants. Oh, the movie. It's a Disney TV.
Talk 1260 KTRC
"winifred" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC
"Now. The 41 degrees humidity. Winifred is 26. Hurts them. All right. We have three guests all on hold right now. So let's jump in here. Pam Roy, who joins us fairly often to talk about food and the scent of a food policy counsel, Pam Roy from farm to Table and the New Mexico Food and Agriculture Policy Council and Santa Fe Food Policy Council. We also have on State center list of panic from district 39 State representing Rebecca Dow from District 38. We'll start with state representing Rebecca down because we've never had a run before. Nice to meet you, Representative. Welcome to the show. You try to be here today? The great topic. It is a great topic. List of panics. Welcome back. Happy New Year. Happy New Year, Everybody. Yeah. And we're going to start. We're gonna let Pam Roy start all kick off the whole thing because she can't cannot stick around very long. So, Pam, also happy New Year. Thank you. Thanks, Richard. And thank you so much since the facts and representative doubt for being with us this afternoon really appreciate it. All right, so pay and want to kick us off talking about whatever you want. Whatever you think, is the most important lead into the legislative session and food. Yes, thanks So much for yes, So this is actually really exciting session on, But I know that there's the fashion represent doubt will actually share a lot about how it's gonna be structured. Um But I want to thank both of them. They are taking lead on several initiatives that really focused on the health and well being of our community. Everything from our very youngest to our elders. Um, and it's really focused on food and nutrition programs and how that ties into our agricultural economy. And as many of you know, been part of the show. Um Agriculture is our fourth largest economic sector in New Mexico. Yet with the pen, dammit what we've learned Um is a huge has been a huge ramp up a lot of increase in the need and desire for local food and to build out our local food economy. That means agriculture in our state means a lot of our farmers and ranchers that air they're interested in providing their product into grocery stores and schools. Ondo. Other options really have your opportunity to build out their build out their businesses at the same time, you really mean that we get a chance to address good nutrition in our state, and the pandemic certainly has put light on that New Mexico with an increase in coded security, not only in our seniors but in our families and young ones. And so those those programs that are consistent like early childhood food nutrition programs and represent Dalby speaking about that in programs in our senior centers, and also in our schools, the school meal programs they're so important to us. Means we get a chance to get the freshest, most beautiful locally grown produce into those meals. Um, and expand those programs. So just a couple of things as many of you know, we already have. Program in the public Education department called New Mexico Groom, and, um, the Legislature has appropriated $400,000 in the last couple of years each year. Are And that translates to schools learning how to buy Produce. Your school's last year spent 1.1 million plus dollars buying local you means that was sort of an incentive for them to learn how to use other dollars in their budget to buy local So, having said that we also just started a senior pilot program for senior meal programs that was completely successful, right in the middle of Cove it all the seniors love getting produce, and we're learning that we might be able to shift how we do these programs. They really need the needs of seniors in more ways than we have in the past and seniors love getting local produce and know what to do with that They love to cook. Um and it's fresh and they and they get it. So that step part and then, of course, very early, early childhood. Um, those little ones. Where it's the most important to get that nutrition to young people. They learn about it and why it's important and then we build on those efforts as we come into first grade and on So, um, well, one other thing I'll say, and then I'll just pass the baton at that point is that this is an inter agency on initiative now. So Public Education department aging normal in terms of service is, um, the early childhood education program Department of every culture and the Department of Health. All are partnering. This will probably be the first state to have this kind of her inter agency program across sectors so Really excited about it. And first the panics and represent gal or absolute champions and leaders in this work, and I'll stop now and look forward to hearing how it all goes with them. So thanks so much for the opportunity to be with you up. I'll try and do a good job. Thank you, Pam. Appreciate it. All right, Representative Rebecca Dow. You are in district 38, which is in the truth or consequences. Area how long you've been in the Legislature. I am about to start my third term. So I have completed four wonderful years. All right, so your interest in food or agriculture or school or school lunch program come from What It goes much much further than my time in office. I have worked around food security in my community for quite some time, making sure that Life in childcare centers like head start like private programs and even registered home providers had the opportunity to participate in a. It's a program called Child Adult. Agreement Equitable to a school nutrition program offered by the USDA. So for quite a long time, and the reimbursements are.
Russell & Hunter
Bette Midler spark 'Hocus Pocus' hysteria with reunion pic
"The first teaser image of the upcoming Hocus Pocus reunion peddler who played Winifred Sanderson in the beloved 1993 film is set to team up again with co star Sarah Jessica Parker and Kathy Najimy. The actresses will reprise their hocus pocus roles for Midler's annual Hula Ween Fundraising gala, which will be renamed in search of the Sanderson Sisters. Hocus Pocus Hula Ween Takeover Thiss Year. That's
Business Wars Daily
Brooks Brothers Bankruptcy: Nostalgia, Anger, and a Bidding War
"The abandonment of the suit helps explain the struggles of one of America's most iconic fashion companies, brooks brothers, the two hundred two year old brand filed for bankruptcy protection on July eight sure blame cove nineteen, but now you'd be wrong. Suits with the three piece with Thai or skirts and high heels used to convey professionalism and competence, they served as symbols that you took your job seriously and respected your customers, the ones you were treating too expensive lunches, madman style, but even before the pandemic they'd become something of an anachronism. Most of us now see little to no relationship between the way we dress in our competence at work, think Mark Zuckerberg's hoodies. Indeed expensive suits can be viewed as a sign of elitism. Put it starkly. The corporate fashion code has gone by the wayside. Brooks brothers struggles represent a cultural shift, not just a Kobe tragedy. Brooks brothers famously dressed all but four presidents. It is the longest continuously operating fashion business in America and until this month it boasted about making its products in America the Brandon's three factories in the states in Massachusetts North, Carolina and New York. CEO Claude Delvecchio is planning to close those factories. We'll get to that in a minute. As you know, apparel sales have been decimated by pandemic closures in April nobody bought clothes whether from Brooks brothers or JC, Penney and other retail casualty, but did you know the actual numbers? Clothing sales fell almost ninety percent in April, according to retail dive, but brooks brothers began looking for a buyer about a year ago. The company operates five hundred stores two hundred of them in the US sales have been flat at about a billion dollars a year since twenty, seventeen, prior to the pandemic bankers estimated the company's value at three hundred to three hundred fifty million dollars. Figure Delvecchio disputed. As, I mentioned the company intends to close its three US factories later this month in the gritty industrial town of. Massachusetts home of its largest factory. Its largest immigrant workforce is being denied severance pay many of those workers, immigrants and refugees women from the Dominican Republic. Vietnam Burma and Nepal have made the company's fine clothing for years so far brooks isn't budging. Despite pleas from the union, and from members of Congress according to the Boston Globe in North Carolina, the factories, the only large employer in the little town of Garland closure would affect that town forever, mayor winifred. Hill, Murphy told The New York Times. In response, CEO, Del Vecchio, says for survival. We must hang onto as much cash as possible, but the globe reports that its chapter eleven filing includes plans to give compensation benefits, severance and bonuses totaling millions to other workers. Brooks brothers will transform, but unlike many of its retail brethren its survival is not in question. In fact, at least one bidder for the company believes it can earn annual revenue of three billion dollars within five years more than triple its current sales, so many buyers are vying for the brand at both the Wall Street Journal and Bloomberg used the phrase the races on those making bids. Bids Include Mall Company Simon, property, group, authentic brands, group and W. H. P. Global another bidder is a group of Italian. Investors led by a company called GIO which typically helps fashion companies improve their online presences. The Wall Street Journal possibly with tongue firmly in cheek, considering the state cut of Brooks brothers clothing says Julia wants to quote introduced some European flair to the quintessential American brand. Julia's clients include Armani Maxmara and other designers. Brooks brothers is accepting bids through August fifth, so brooks will survive, but what about it's cheaper? Rival men's warehouse tailored brands which owns men's warehouse and the more upscale Joseph. A. Bank plans to close at least a third of its fifteen hundred stores. It said this month it hasn't filed for chapter eleven protection, but it came close according to CNN. That threat remains even after it stores reopened. Sales have been falling. They were down about eighty percent at Joseph A. Bank in the first week of June, as we all continue to do business in Pajama Pants as we all know nostalgia sells Joseph A. Bank doesn't have nearly the name or the history of Brooks brothers, which drips with nostalgia. Teddy Roosevelt apparently insisted his rough riders. Riders wear the Brand Abe. Lincoln was also a brooks brothers customer, one reason for the bidding war beyond what is sure to be the lowest price anyone ever imagined for the stalwart brand. Is What author Lisa Burn? Bach believes about Fashions Post. Pandemic Future Birnbaum who authored the twenty ten book true. Prep argues that the company must be saved after the pandemic finally end, she writes. There will be weddings. There will be funerals. There will be. We hope live operas and theatre and premieres in concerts and fancy dress parties. Where we can't predict the future, but we can observe the present, and what's happening to upscale apparel in the US. WHO's buying it and WHO's making it. Reveals a lot about our rapidly changing an enormously conflicted culture.
Climate Connections
A relatively simple change could reduce bat fatalities from wind turbines
"For the climate, but scientists estimate that wind turbines kill more than half a million bats in the US each year. Migratory species like the hoary Bat are the most vulnerable. Research by Winifred Frick of bat conservation international shows that if nothing is done to protect them, hoary populations could drop by up to ninety percent within fifty years. The level of mortality that we see is high enough that it could potentially cause rapid declines of that species. But she says there are ways for bad species and wind energy to thrive for example during migration season, wind turbines can be turned off on nights when the wind is low. Studies show this could reduce tallies by about fifty to ninety percent with only minimal effects on energy production. We've learned a lot. In the last ten years. In terms of the interactions between bats and wind turbines that can really point towards effective solutions now the challenge is implementing those solutions widely, but I says she's optimistic that by focusing on the issue and we can have renewable energy, and we can protect biodiversity I. Don't think that those are mutually exclusive outcomes.
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Eyes on Conservation Podcast
Shedding Light on Bats and Covid-19
"Welcome to the is on conservation podcasts. I'm Gregory Haddock and I'm joined here with Kristin how you doing kristen. I'm doing great despite you know. Despite Dave forty four forty five forty six. I don't even count anymore. What's know what's the point now? It's a win Big Day. Quarantine. That's right five. Eighty to one hundred four. You know. There's just numbers that's the old world and we're on the new world down we are. We are so yeah. I'm excited to be here today to talk to you about one of my favorite subjects. Yes we definitely are looking forward to this conversation. I in particular now people who are listening to the show right now may not realize that. Kristen is actually directing and producing a feature length film called the invisible mammal all about the life of bats. And obviously right now. That's a really strange timing right. I don't know how you might define that. But I know for a lot of people at home hearing all these different things about bats and how they may or may not be responsible for the situation. Take it away like what's been your experience. You've had a obviously talked to a lot of different experts in this field. What's what's been the outcome of that. Basically I had big plans for twenty twenty. A lot of people had big plans. For Twenty twenty my big plans for this year all revolved around doing a lot of field work in filming the work of Bat Scientist Bat researchers across North America. You know here in California. I was going to go back to Michigan Upper Peninsula and I was probably also going to go back to Texas to film the Work of these amazing bat scientists who are stopping at nothing to find solutions to the bat pandemic of White Nose Syndrome. That has been just decimating populations across the continent east to West. North to south. Since two thousand six like I said I had plans I had shoots lined up and then incomes Karinna virus and I'm still hosting fundraising events and all of a sudden people at my fundraising events. Start asking me about corona virus and whereas that's not necessarily the focus of by film or had not been now it definitely is and because the scientists are no longer able to do any more about research out on the field. Do any research in the field right now no since April tenth the. Us government suspended all field research but on top of all of that the researchers themselves have decided voluntarily that because they don't want to use any additional P P that could be going to hospitals and healthcare workers that they themselves have been stopping. The field research during the pandemic is just safer for everybody at safer for the bats and safer for all of the healthcare workers who are trying to do their jobs right so as a result of not being able to do any filming out in the field and no fundraising events and no nothing. I decided the best thing to do. Would be to try to set up some interviews with the experts through online meeting and some guests here so tell us a little bit about them. What would you have for us today? Said the first interview is going to be with Dr Winifred Frick who is the chief scientist at Bat Conservation International and she's also an associate research professor in ecology and evolutionary biology at UC. Santa Cruz and Dr Frick is of the characters in my film the invisible mammal the connection between bats and current virus and couvert nineteen. I knew that she would be the right person to talk to to get the facts to clear up any misinformation and just to share the knowledge that she has about bats with Oliver Listeners. Will share it with us. What's your okay. Let's go thank you for joining us. My pleasure to be here. How has the coveted nineteen pandemic changed the focus of your work at Bat Conservation International? Like most people here in the United States and really over large parts of the world were sheltered in place. We're doing our part to prevent the spread of the novel current of Iris. And so you know for our work here at BCI by Conservation International. We do a lot of travel. We do a lot of field work. And so of course. We put a pause on that but the focus of our work stays essentially the same. Organization's mission is dedicated to protecting bat populations around the world and ensuring that no bats go extinct and of course the most fun parts of that job getting out into the field and working with bats directly and visiting the places where in their habitats where they need to be protected. But there's lots that we can do to protect bats from our home offices and so where everybody. Fbi is still working hard every day and doing like everybody around the world of working on our work. Life Integration of homeschooling our kids while working hard on data analysis report writing scientific publications and connecting with our partners to around the world. Making sure everybody safe and doing everything we can to protect bats and protect ourselves so most everybody around the globe is in the same situation. Our lives have just been completely changed by the colonel virus pandemic and everyone is also following the news and the connection between bats and current virus. Can you explain how scientists were able to make that connection? It's important to know that we don't yet know how the novel current virus spilled into the human population and the the pandemic that we're experiencing is caused from human to human transmission of this novel strain of Corona Virus. What we do know from pass work by some really excellent scientists who study zone attic disease so diseases that are caused from viruses that naturally occur in wildlife populations. Is that this group of Beta current viruses. Which is sort of the family of current viruses that the SARS covy to which is the technical name of the virus that's causing the CO vid pandemic cove. It is what we call the disease caused by the virus and SARS Cova to is the technical name of the virus itself more commonly called the novel Corona virus so SARS Kobe to the novel. Current virus is part of this. Beta Kerr virus family and what we know is that there are lots of different. Beta Corona viruses found in wild bat populations. It's presumed that the original strain of this. What was likely in a bat in China but how it then got from the bats into the human population is still a scientific mystery and something that people are working on. Oftentimes those spillover events happen through an intermediate host in the case of SARS which is closely related to this current virus it came through an intermediate host of civic cat which was harvested in in markets. And there's some evidence or there's been some work that suggests that perhaps penguins are working as the intermediate host in this case although that's still under active investigation and it's we just don't know yet. Exactly how the spillover event happened