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4/16/21 - Hour 4 - Dealing With Snow In April, A Call From Phil Simms, An Update From Jerry Recco, A Visit From Craig Carton and Friday's MOTD

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40:08 min | 2 months ago

4/16/21 - Hour 4 - Dealing With Snow In April, A Call From Phil Simms, An Update From Jerry Recco, A Visit From Craig Carton and Friday's MOTD

"Are you ready to meet the moment ozzy and our friends at chevrolet proud to present real talk real change to help foster racial equality in america. And we're inviting you to help join the carlos watson. I talked with key leaders from across the country about racial disparities in america's healthcare system. Look for the carlos watson show and real talk real change on youtube and subscribe or download the carlos watson show forever. You get your podcasts. I did want to bring something up though. 'cause you've been talking about it all morning and you brought it up. We decided to do this. On april first. Virtual runner breed them. My foundations running on the team boomer part of the website. So people are. We've been asking sixty bucks. I'm going to sixty miles to my and we got a lot of people you know putting sixty bucks up and i really really do appreciate anybody that has gone. There left great messages at. Here's the best message thus far it's from an anonymous donor of sixty bucks. Make sure al dukes get the credit. He deserves for his donation. I see he didn't click. Please don't display my name on the website. Maybe we should call news twelve right. Yeah so. I appreciate it those all good fun and hopefully i'll get through tomorrow and i look forward to you know attempting it and i fully expect to finish it and we are coming to you. Live from the built ford. Tough studio what we're talking about is boomer doing sixty miles on his bike for run to breathe virtual run to breathe so we are trying to raise the money. They the day before his sixtieth birthday when he attempts this at team. Boomer dot org as long as you go right there the donate thing. We'll be right in front of you. You click on that and then sixty dollars for boomers sixtieth birthday and the sixty miles. That michael caruso davis has challenged boomer to do so. We appreciate it if you can put up that sixty bucks. That's the best gift you could give boomer and the foundation in a year where you lost out on a lot opportunities to fundraise like many other charities losing out on events. It's just been brutal. Two biggest of the three biggest events well five because we take our to booming celebrations golf tournament and the new york city marathon man. And that's part of what Team boomer is an run to breathe program that includes p people participating for us in the new york city marathon which has been canceled two years in a row. Now so it's been it's been a tough year for everybody not just us and you know we're gonna be fine and we're gonna just keep plugging along doing what we do. I got out there advocating on on behalf of families every single day and this is my end of it. So i'll i'll handle my end of it speaking gun or he sent you a picture. He's got what three or four inches of snow of their new head over. Yeah he got four inches now and it's still snowing right now as we speak. That's just the pricing. There's nothing worse. Go he called me yesterday and he was taking his ski. I guess he rent some skis or something to go skiing. So he's taking the skis back and he was saying how weird it's gonna be taken the skis back and then waking up tomorrow morning and having snow on the ground shore yeah. Snow in april is a tough one. That's a tough pill to swallow speaking of snow and cold. The mets starting pitch temperature is going to be in the thirties. There's a forty percent. Chance is has there ever been and i don't know the answer to this as their ever been. A game cancelled because of temperature now. I can't imagine that that would happen. But and we have seen some games in the snow. We saw one this year out in detroit. Yeah and i know the yankees had an opening day wants with snow. So it's happened but like it got down to like twenty two degrees or something. I think they're playing as they're gonna play law as long as it's dry. I i would imagine that you know for some reason. If there was a wind chill of minus fifteen or something like that cooler heads would prevail and they would say the players and said. We're not playing in this. I mean it's the luck of this so you're supposed to have jacob degrom pitch. Yesterday gets rained out. And then you're like okay. Whole start the first game of this series but it's twenty degrees. I don't know if it's that cold be stardom why not. I don't know just let them go out there and throw six innings of one hundred mile an hour fastballs. Nobody's going to wanna hit it. They won't all. Could you imagine this thing in the in the fingertips like actually can't oof but may thro no hitter. But there's no reason to think that it could hurt him pitching in the cold like that code could you. But i'm sure that when he goes to the bench she'll probably go into the clubhouse or if they have heaters on the bench i would imagine. Yeah he'd also we wearing his jacket and maybe he would put a hydroxy relation pat around us elbow to keep it warm with all the stuff that they are protecting these players. I'm sure it'd be all right and he's gonna wanna pitch you know that guy's an animal. He's an animal. He's gonna wanna pitch. Maybe it will like to challenge. I don't know. But i just i just anytime you think about jacob degrom and protecting him i always want to take the the most cautious route. Possible he's older and he's been through it and it's like his career started later and this is why i still think at his age. He's able to hit one on one and one zero two on the gun So he doesn't have the wear and tear on his arm that some of these other guys have yet and if they cancel another game or postpone another game like tonight gets postponed this. What a bizarre. Start to the season for the mets. Just crazy do we have any idea who starting for the yankees tonight. No bullpen game. Think think it's the bullpen game. Well so you know they're going. It's michael walker. Yeah come on you gotta you gotta you know what lapping. Because it's a former met. He'll go out there and throw a one he nine you know he. He got hit pretty good last time. I'm just saying because we'll be watching though. Ramon castro hit the. How many wilson. Ronald ramon my god wilson ramos. A blast from the past wilson. Ronald have six home runs. We've seen jed lowrie be like the al mvp. What did you like for the yankees. Though saturday and sunday one o'clock starts and calls going on sunday sure sunday. One o'clock doesn't get much better than that. No it doesn't all right. I believe we're being joined at some point here by a special guests at the alice getting on the phone. We him on the phone or not. Because i don't want to get it. Don't want to get into something else if he is If he is still waiting for the breakfast you know i. I could have called oaken steiner out. There would have been already. Where are you going what it means right here. It's right it's an who delivered it. Well there you go. where's this from. I'm not sure there's a sandwich and sir what am. I is special orders. You know yes. When are you saying. Oh yes we that's what we order. What's at any. That's what was order. Who knows if they actually follow through. We'll say yeah. I don't know like a bagel. Oh here we go. What does this got. Sandwiches can egged angular containers and container out. You want it eddie. Want an egg in a container. I'm good thanks. This is this is fun. This is like kat look special guest on the phone ball. Look at this busy. What's that special guest. You see him up there. Mr frail sim. Hey what's There's a special occasion going on in their today. But as i turned the tv on all i see is boomer. Radio smashes face with food supplies. No just that. We see all the time every sunday But see between that Bloomer telling us how good he looks and what else boomer is that about all. It is a reoccurring theme and it hasn't changed. So yeah it's about it. And i appreciate you guys bringing him on sixty sixty. Yeah i mean man. You start to look like george hamilton in there you. You're so damn tan leave. -able takes care of us. Yeah i know. And i don't and every time i look at you you're looking at yourself in a tv screen in front of you know what you're doing so i'm doing the same thing that adam shined us. I'm doing the same thing that adam shine does. Oh gosh okay. let's go. That's not a great comparison. Gio told the story this morning. How am shined tends to look in the monitor's. Coe looks used to h shares. Meanwhile i stared myself in the matter. You up. I can't do it a little horse. And the kids that Let's see what you turn sixty shocking. Because let's be honest. You look like you're sixty five or so. You got more wrinkles on you. Hold a day rain up that head. Just what i need guys phil. Simms come on and start ripping me. Well what else is there to really really. What else is there. And by the way You know. I know you're in this You've been looking at guys and underwear now for how long Leading up to this draft. Not long enough. You know you just can't do that long enough all right so so. So lord's going to draft would ask her quick. I want to ask you real quick. Because i know you're into this and we haven't talked in a couple of weeks. So lawrence. zack wilson. Who's going to san francisco and your is. I have no idea. I've just all and i know nothing. Don't know nella jones I think that's where they were leading are leaning. I should say when they made the the trade. But i do believe what you're saying on tv by the way. I didn't realize there were so many draft experts in this world tv commentator host and players. They know everything about what. It's unbelievable now. I just oh they. They know what every team should draft. Why i'm asking you though. I mean like 'cause you do now you're right on right on last year justice herbert. Well yes guy but you know. I think that if i had to bet right now i would say they're gonna take back. Wow but i'm not sure. Everybody keeps saying justin fields. I kind of watch. Tv this morning. A little just fields now is the favourite to go with the third pick to the san francisco. Forty niners and it wouldn't shock me if it was trailing see. There from north dakota wouldn't shock you but what i mean to me. It's shocking that mack jones would be the third pick overall well. I don't physically. He doesn't match up against the other ones in some of the categories. You say but you understand when you watch it and then everybody goes well my god. He plays with the best team in the country. And they got these receivers. Well what is clemson and house. they playing with. How many times do the lineup in a game. Where they're the best team by far the championship game. That was it. That was the first time they saw a team that was equal to them so You know we didn't say this last year about two when he had four top flight. Nfl receivers out there. So we also say you know. I in when they're arguing against zack. Wilson he didn't play against anybody. You can't win the everybody for the negative. That's the point. And you know. I like to think that i'm looking for the positive. This is the guy really committed the football. Are you worried about what. Trevor lawrence's dad said about trevor. Not at all not at all. Gosh almighty let's read into everything that saying kind of make a story out of it doesn't bother me. Trevor lawrence shown For many years like they said highschool to where he is now that he's dedicated. The football you know works. It plays like he knows what he's doing. He's very good on the field. And a lot of instances as far as reading where to go to football a not a good arm Borderline grade arm control from every. Make all the throws you know. We're going to do show. I'm gonna do that. Quarterback show week from monday. And i'm gonna point out all their things that they do well. But i must tell you some things that They don't do well in all of them so hurt anybody's phillies off. You'll love hurting feelings too. By the way. I know you do phil since join us. Real quickly You like what the jets have done. Thus far with the new coach the way that they're acquiring all these draft assets in the fact. That looks like they're going with zack. Wilson you like all this. Yeah i do i do. I think they need the rea- themselves. Zack wilson I don't care who they played you know. The town is talent and he shows it in every single game and everybody got mad. Because you know it's it's a little bit. Where'd he come from but his workout is pro day. Yes it was really fun and special but he does those plays and all those things in the game. He truly makes plays like patrick mahomes now. Don't everybody pass out that. I said that but he does. He runs to the right run out of bounds on the right side of them will flip and throw throw the ball all the way to the left side line and you know the the competition yes he did play some teams that were not very good but you know i saw them play a couple of teams houston. Ut san antonio hey the coastal carolina. I mean i thought the other teams are better than brigham young So same thing about josh allen right when he came out of college play wyoming and now look what he's turned into after three years ago has got for an arm. He's got good coaching staff. They're stable and hopefully the jets are stable. The top for the giants. What do you think. I'm thinking defense for them. But i'm also saying that maybe this kid waddell wide receiver from alabama well. I think there's definitely going to be a receiver there. The giants wanted the. I think the draft his loaded with receivers good ones. I don't know who you know. Jim chase ecorse courses always brought up there. Devante smith really catches my eyes so much and you know these receivers. I've watched a couple of times but If the giants wanna get a wide receiver that's the difference maker to get one there. Well that'd be interesting. The mag jones to san francisco goes there. Why would he go there because he fits what they do you know. He's a downfield accurate thrower He does move around a pocket Yes i wish he was a little more athletic. Yes i was. He had a little more powered as arm buddies extremely accurate. and they either did this at alabama. They threw a screen to the wide receiver or running back or they do it. Twenty yards down the field every time and you know. He anticipated great. It's not just words. I'm saying that israel and I and here's the narrative on mac jones. If he goes to san francisco well he went to the best spot. He's going to do well and if he go in. And that's going to be the first thing because he's going to the best situation of all so they've already covered themselves well. You shouldn't go there. But he went to the best in draft for a quarterback to go. And that's why he's doing well if he does bad all my. Gosh then. The whole media world is crush san francisco all right. Who's your favorite thick some bitch in this draft. You have a favorite one. Just a field is pretty thick. Yeah hey did you did you do your providence day with your shirt off by. What did you do your day with your shirt off a man. We didn't produce twenty one pro days. I worked out for twenty one teams senior year in college. Did you do it without your shirt on no i kept my shirt on to bind. Everybody else is cam newton. Just not quite six hundred six. That's it would take wilson over justin fields. Okay all right very good. So i need to hear. Well i appreciate the call in for the happy birthday. Shout at the nice things you said to me at the beginning of this now you know. Listen all the other thing is to you know boomer really you do great things for a lot of people fun to listen to. Go but and of course you still talk about it you know. We get to talk about bloomer blatantly and vividly and explains it well talks about his bowel movements all the time hey. I'm glad you shared that information with cloud down to the details. Exactly sure and like i told you star using metamucil relaxing you. Didn't you start actually became a nicer person. That's just not true. That is true. No all right well. Okay but they turn sixty. I can really tell you the truth. It really truly does go downhill from here. It is it's a brutal war now. Just the fight. It's unbelievable. i'm falling apart. No matter what i do can't remember anything which is a good thing sometimes And all that but look happy birthday. Hope it works out well for you know it will and geo i was gonna call you gene. I'll just i. I can just see you sitting there today. Says what's running down your back. Happy little thing. I just know it is no. You're right yeah swamp and back here and the whole thing philly those at center and so that the worst is right and it doesn't work in the studio because he told me when he called me yesterday really says likes guys which was really interesting. Really bitch about yeah. I liked it. Oh well all right. I guess i'm done all right. Take care phil simms. Goes all right. We'll talk to you soon. The great phil simms guy. Who was i going there every sunday. He just re rags on your campus. of course. it's it's a reciprocal thing right. The two of us at this point isn't it. Yes you know. I mean i mean he well he gets mad because people called up that time see the last thing. He was mad at had nothing to do with me. People were calling up on talk about his hair and his suit and everything else and his lady glasses right. And i was like i. What do you want me to do about it. Stick up for him. i'd stick up for. Yes what do you mean. You're the one of us to stick up point. I do not apparently not but that was the thing he was. Who's you not mad at me. But i don't i don't know i don't have the relationship with him that you do because i stuck up for him he's never stuck up for me your thick soma big got swapping back hair. Things called swampy right. That's why i mean so. This is what relationship is we go back and forth in this way boomer and swampy in the morning boomer and swamp as six to ten am yeah. I mean that. I wouldn't want it any other way with phil. This is the way i wanted. Men men men. B men. Right boston each other's balls a ball breaking. Are you ready to meet the moment ozzy and our friends at chevrolet proud to present real talk real change to help foster racial equality in america. And we're inviting you to help join carlos watson as i talked with key leaders from across the country about racial disparities. America's healthcare system look for the carlos watson show in real talk real change on youtube and subscribe or download the carlos watson show forever. You get your podcast. Heats the morning show with boomer esiason in gregg giannotti boomer in geo. What's happening man. We're brought to you by town fair tire. Nobody beats town fair tire. No body we should have a new category. It's called only a rod. So i saw i saw this story you know barrett sports media jason barrier puts out there. I saw this morning. Enjoy your bagel. i saw just a little while ago. So a-rod buys the timber wolves or he's in the process of buying the t. Wolves with his partner of his from walmart and he annoyed. Espn because he gave the story to the athletic and not his employer really interesting. Actually they would do that. Soviet iran posted. I don't know if i can get this. So you run on his instagram. After the j. lo a rod thing became official. He posted a video of him taking a video of a rod and j. lo pictures and like memories that they had with a cold play song in the background bones. The song gotta find the name of the song so did has iphone short form or no. He was doing it like he was taking a video of dresser with all the pictures on it and the song was fix you by coldplay. I'll say this they look good together. Well yeah but now it's over so yeah. This is the coldplay song fix you and with all the memories. So it's very strange. I mean look at look at all the stuff that they did the. Cbs sports network puts a graphic. That shows you all the different things and the awards that they've won and this is the song i know saw. This song is what he's playing doing a video like when you try best does succeed but not. Can you believe this. And it's like pictures of the two of them and can in the sand. It says jennifer and alex heart. He's a lover not a fighter. G cicero gets kind of like to me my birthday and try to really s-curves stream minute said you thought jeez message in your card was sappy is applied not fine. Break the rules for certain people. Doing best friend You don't kid sixty yes. What drove me to drink. I'm sure i did drive you to drink killed me. Is that sandwich actually. Fresh hot sandwich. Cheese scrambled eggs. It's not raw better than that. it's scramble i'm on. Wow so sorry. And didn't get you a french omelette. Would you fettuccine have down in. Westville is his last year pre pandemic rap like an egg rap on the menu and boomer wanted. It's slightly altered. Nagai said no dice. His restaurants like that modify. This is how we make it. You came to our restaurant. we're gonna make it the way we make money. You want it on housewife is good. But i'm just saying. I am not ever gone to restaurant oil. Put it on the saw aggravates instead of eggs. You've become a long island house. Why would you say a long island housewife when it could be a new jersey housewife. Because i'm being very clear the type of woman out. There is no real housewives a long island. It's print do though oliver manhattan that's why my shrubs in southampton yet remember remember. This boomer will about ten years ago in a terrible storm. There's a lot of power out and the guys con- recorded francesa calling the pool. That sandy was screaming. And who i am. Meanwhile everybody's losing their houses in the rockaways while you turned sixty raising tomorrow. -gratulations thank yard. You're making fun of me. Yesterday was that i'm a fat ass. Now i do say listen. I got five hours to fill signed up for a little disappointed with the way that you came out of the joint size mars. Yeah we thought you're going to be all buff and everything else. And i was like a minute. No you weren't out a month before i got out. I did a thousand pushups in an hour. Wow that was my record. And then i came out. I looked in the mirror. And i go. It's hard to tell nothing happened. The weight room was closed down for the last three months. I was there not that i was in softball was canceled and flag football. They couldn't do push ups or pull up and pilates and the all prison right eating better now though right you said you better. You came out. You were eaten everything and then you. I heard you tell evan you were scaling back. A little at my heaviest. I was to twenty eight to twelve right now. Okay pretty good on the holidays in prison in my experience. Who thought i'd ever be able to say right now. Cbs kit him all fill in a single person. Cbs tv acknowledged my presence. Really what do you mean like. Why did we don glad you're expecting to hear from the hell. Earth never speak to him ever again. No so i like. They do like on christmas. They try to give you something sure but they serve lunch at ten o'clock in the morning all right so the dinner and i've never seen this before. Maybe you when you played for the bengals served it in your commissary. I've never seen baloney sweat off. They serve sweaty baloney holidays. Treat which why turkey or something. Not as this. I'd rather my bologna enough sweat. Your wise the baloney nervous and i have no eaten there for as government cheese. It's cheese it actually does not melt and it just squeezes square square square. But you can't melt it. Is it american cheese yellow american. That don't melt sweaty baloney sweaty baloney that you can get on a sandwich adam offending machinery trade it for stamps. So what was the sandwich allergy. Got craig out of the vending machine. What was it was a ham sandwich. And so they have a cold refrigerated vending machine that the guests can come and buy you those sandwiches stuff that you can microwave but you're not allowed to use it. The guests has to use the microwave. And there's a lot of other kind of rules like that. But i i was very nervous. Spying me my welch's grape soda. I didn't hear them but some kind of sandwich handed a ham sandwich sitting in a vending machine. Yeah i mean. I didn't blame. You know they came to refill a couple times a month and that'd be a big event we're guys would run to the vending machines. They guess comey of that particular weekend to see what they restocked the vending machine with. Yeah not blame you. Because boomer's always craig craig got family. You eat mag every day. Ouch i sent you mackerel. I'd throw it out. I was going to hold on to raise sixty sixty miles. You did you make your donation. Whatever did you see. Bus team boomer. Donald better yeah. By the way i did get a Message on that website that al gave his sixty bucks an anonymous leaker while the he'd jumping out counts every nickel he. It was important to you that to him that you knew that he gave you sixty. That's the point and somebody right after al donated and saw that al did not go anonymous that he actually has to get credit for his donation. Just consider me one of the anonymous. So i didn't have evans sign that or any of the rest of your crew. Because i forgot what sign it. He got you a gift and i said why. Would you buy boomer gift. He and he goes well. You know it's the right thing to do. Go you know boomer. I give no relationship with him. So he bought you a mark messier bobblehead. Why would you waste money on anything with as name on. You're something's never changed. Honestly that work in the bronx doing mayors hall titians mayor you attached to get right through the blasios. No show kate trump. He also loves the guy. That's managing the field for the city council. That's helping the catholic high school athletic association. I did talk to the catholic. High sociation directors guys but the guy on the city council that you talked i had slap. He's running for mayor to swap. Here's a can you say slap dick sure. Sure yeah would not sorry. Well i got dumped when i said that a cold that colour that but not slapping you can say the d. word lie you don't find for you don't lose your license but sloppy exactly what it is really. Yeah of course. Larry where you biking bike out a long island. Yeah yeah they'll probably down by jones beach. I think it's great right on the water there. You know what he's doing. Jackie robinson he's told me three different locations because he is going to be on his pelton living my sixty miles. He probably it was raining. You would be did work with me. you probably would have gotten peleton that you wouldn't use by the way the oath i use it for the first month. It holds towels. Have another bone to pick with you. You said that. I gave somebody a gift that you gave me. And that was jerry. You said that. I gave him the. Oh the jets. The jet ski. Yes because i got garner a gift you traded to gift into get gonna the jet skiing and then you gave. The jet skis gets no. It's not bad we were doing ads for that place down. Massapequa the place down a mass. Okay and part of the ad by there. They wanted to give us each a gift and they gave us. They wanted to give you the campaign. Spidercam spider right. And i said. I don't want to be driving around cam and spider. I'll just take jetskis. that's what i remember. Returned the represented that whole thing with jerry. It's what i do best. Can i just ask you one question. Of course i want an honest answer go. No this has been bothering me this since just in bodily shot up at five seconds. That'll be asked the question. Good i don't want to know what to do at the raptor. I sold it. You're right. I had no choice. I know in com- bankrupt that old the raptor get another one. And i'm not allowed to. Yes yeah no so. I lived off that rapper for like eight months so you she were taking care of my ability to live so i want to thank you for that again and one of the hardest days in my life because of all the cars i've ever had and i've said my favorite car of all time was the ford raptor perfectly blue. Yes there's another one lane. I don't ever. I knew i knew that. I knew that i did so you. Why did you call me. i would bought it. We were speaking a tough time. Better email stream of emails coming at me and yelling at boomer. Even though we weren't speaking all of a sudden one day. I go like on the prison computer. And there's a thing called commissary and you have like an account and one day. There's three hundred bucks in my cow. Who in the world sent me three hundred bucks. 'cause my family had sent me any money and it said right. There is science in the nicest mac. Yeah so there you go macro that. Jabbar traded for cigarettes. No no. there's no smoking i isn't. I thought they were worth something a cigarette. yes now. Stamps is the currency currence stamps. Stamps letters of bush suspense in prison. That knocker why would he saw ause once and it makes it very raptors available. There isn't what about the new rock we got the bronco. Bronco ci or getting get bronchitis. Hannah third afford. Listen this things of change. You know you've got the raptor boomer goes all email a guy and then you could talk to byron bronco. That's the way driven onto yes. It's very very nice. Good well sixty years old. So congratulations thank you. I appreciate it. You wanna scream moment of the day with us for like voice left anymore evans. Killing me you were in the boat has gone are polos. Love you happy birthday and sixty more. Like that's eddie writes in the car five more years. Please yeah i used to say that. Should say dan five realistically you not working here. You're seventy i doubt it right. I think sixty five maybe the has number and you had one more contract in them. Get the sixty five and then pull the love retired new assize an app. Arthur retired three times mess of a couple of partners. You'll come back sixty seven. I'm wearing put his hat in the ring. Both for program director at new host. What happened you. Put your head in your name in for program director is. He's out of touch with all things. Because i want to our shows only new new host every two hours. It's also a lot of our shows. Only also thing is if every other platform in america doesn't two hours wired radio four or five any sands blah blah blah blah because people pay for most successful show in a longer on the air the more money they would say this get boomer sized and out of bed for one hundred fifty grand to do two hours and get back to you. Enjoy the cold sandwich. Yes there's a bunch of bagels officer cheesy walks dog. Hr hr is going to be all over this slow cova touch your fat. The cameras spank crank carton. Everybody the just gave me the chills gravity like that. he's right. We didn't talk for about six months during that time. 'cause i had to clean up a lot of the messy left behind. You know how to get through all that. I understand well. He was also upset too because he felt like you should have had his back more or something. What i don't i just remember. That was what was going on. The he accused me of not being a foxhole guy but i mean it was a we always talked about being foxhole. Guys mean it was a dark time out of it and look at the everybody is brought a hang renate into the foxhole foxhole. Right right now i understand. I understand but everybody's happy now. Happy to have him as a little bit. Everything's great yeah. So i knew he sold that raptor. I'm surprised it took you this long to ask them. I haven't really seen them. And every time yeah now we have talked about. But i had totally forgotten about until i heard him talking about taking credit for me giving jerry jets and the raptor thing popped right then pop the my head and some bitch. I said i sold it. We saw very good All right jerry. We don't have any more time for an update but let me read you at least the moment of the day. Spa we absolutely yes. Yeah no. Let's get the clip to all right moment of the day. Brought by casa migos tequila customer goes to kill a brought to you by those who drink it earlier. Guys reliving the geo carlin fight in front of the building was i. I remember getting into my car and feeling the ground move. Somebody was stopping their way all the way to you. So he He came out of starbucks that he had like a giant drink. You know the thing is bigger than you could ever imagine whipped cream cinnamon drizzle over and he's walking towards me and like the whipped cream is flying off the top of the tree is. He's walking towards me. Hey so nobody listens to go play. 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Diversity and inclusion with Jennifer Borget: why racial inclusion matters and how to be better about it

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Diversity and inclusion with Jennifer Borget: why racial inclusion matters and how to be better about it

"The following podcast is a deer media production. Let's talk about racial inclusion and how we can be better at it. We've come a long ways nation but we have a long way to go. Oh and today my friend Jennifer Borg Cherish. Three sixty five answers all my heart an awkward questions about race inclusivity. We talk about the right way to say things is what not to say what it's like to be an interracial marriage and how to raise kids who have open hearts toward all people we even talk about a black aerial and what that means wants to Jennifer and her daughter in the New Disney remake of Little Mermaid Jennifer's insight is beautiful positive refreshing honest and I cannot wait for you guys to learn from her two one one last thing before we get into today's episode. It helps us out so much. If you guys leave us a rating or a review especially review it just takes a second so if you love mint Tehran messages it would mean so much to me Antony L. who worked so hard on this. If you guys would leave us just a quick reviewer rating. I wanted to read a fun one that we got from M Wilson in Ramose. That's entitled. I wish I could give you one hundred stars. It says I hadn't heard of your website until I stumbled upon your podcast. You are Mormon Oprah every week you put out another gem and I'm constantly learning and pondering new ideas and concepts. I love all the guest speakers you bring on honestly the content. You put out too good on a side note. My cousin cousin happens to know you and says that you really are as kind as you sound. Thanks so much for spreading so much knowledge in joy. I can tell you put much thought and planning into each episode. Thanks Again A. and Wilson Ramos for the Super Super Kind Review and if you guys have a second we would love it if you leave us review to you guys. This is going to be such an awesome episode today. I'm so excited to have my friend. Jennifer who I know from my days at Byu we were in the broadcast program together. She is going to share some amazing wisdom as a mom and a content creator. I cannot wait for you guys to get to know her so Jennifer. Tell everybody who you are. I Want Europe to K- thinks Scranton yeah. I'm Jennifer Bourget. It's funny because listening to your podcasts is when I learned how to pronounce your your last name correctly stoke forever. I was like no. It's not so yeah boys as how you pronounce my last name and I actually did know that I should have said it. No okay a but I was just like how did I not know that I must not have heard it so yeah. Jennifer where Jay that's my handle on instagram. I have a blog chairs three sixty five dot com which is ebb. Basically I started ten years ago as baby making machine before I had my first child wanted like a break from the news grind and broadcasting wanted to place wreck destroyed about whatever it'd be almonds and then it just evolved over the years after I had kids and then after my second child a couple years and with being a mama to was like you know I'm done with babies. I think I'm ready for rebrand and really want to focus focus on just you know cherishing the time that the kids and you know really cherishing every day because it goes by so fast so I changed my bog from baby making machine cherish the sixty five dot com and then later that you're out. I was pregnant at the third and it's still like it's still it. Okay people were like bog me back but it fits because I think even more now with another one in the big age gap. It's helps me to realized like to not take anything for granted and every morning when she wakes up before six. I'm like what is wrong with you. I just can look at my a big kids in Alabama. Gosh this last forever. You tell prairie yet. Yes it's temporary so that helps so that's our blog is and I basically share our journey and multiracial parenting and raising kids you know in this day and age that don't look like a lot of people in their classrooms and end just trying to help them navigate that so love and who they are in you know by knowing where they come from yeah so important and I cannot wait wait to get into this topic with you because I feel comfortable asking you questions that I don't feel comfortable asking everyone we're friend. Fleas are the questions that I'm sure everyone else is thinking to a lot of time so I'm going to start with one that I feel like as a little controversial okay. I've heard some people say do not call me African American American. I'm not from Africa. I'm black and then I've heard other. People say like no black is derogatory. You should always say African American. What's your stance on Matt. Let's just start with that. I think that's a great question. I remember meeting someone when I lived in Utah and she had asked me the same question. Russian issues like what I just say colored because that seems like it's you know it's not black not African American. I'm like well no colored actually as women. You shouldn't use yeah yeah so you know for me. I prefer black because yes I think someone's from South Africa and they're white you're not gonNA pull them an African American even though they're more African Americans then I am so that's what I prefer but I think you know really just comes down to different people. I don't think that if you call someone African American if you call me african-american I'm I'm not gonNA be offended. You know I think okay. Is You know a box that some places have that I can check off. I think a lot of changing it to black now because that is just how most people are choosing to identify but yeah. I think you're good with either of those. Okay good to know yeah it really it's just I sometimes I feel like I'm walking on eggshells because you just don't know what people prefer right but it's good to know where the safe zones are so you really feel like if you have to choose WHO's. Ono's black okay. You have to choose yeah. Yeah Okay and I feel like I've heard the most yeah right and I think it depends on the reference you know and how you're saying it and what you're like. You Know Oh that black guy over there or you know like if if you're choosing to identify someone in in what way like I wouldn't say that that is you know a bad way to describe someone like a bunch of bullying. You're trying to call so outer say who they are. You know like you say their color shirt but if everyone over there is wearing blue shirts like oh the black guy or the African American man like either way. I think it's fine but a lot of it probably has to do with maybe circumstance but I don't town or yeah right tone things differently totally so you mentioned a second ago to that. You're in an interracial relationship marriage yeah so yeah marriage so tell me some of the dynamics with not as far as you know when you decided to get married and how that journey started and if he had support from family family and friends and what it's been like yeah so for us it's funny because we met like on a blind date and it was like really real story online but he didn't have a picture per his like it was like a single saints like a lbs website they absolutely and I was looking. I was logged on for roommates and he was looking for for a friend. Okay well actually. He said he was researching some questions about Black Mormons for a friend who is on a mission and somehow crossed my picture on this site and he felt like he should message me and if you know has has been like he is not on social media is I had to teach him how to attach files to an email so he can how to get a picture on this website when he messaged me and when we first started talking he was telling me how he served a mission in the Caribbean and his Mama's from Atlanta and you know all these clues to meals like okay. It's a guy that's like talking to gene. We're others so we talk on the phone a couple of times when we finally we're going out on a date. I was not expecting what I saw like one hair blue eyes you the guy from Utah so you know it wasn't like I was. I didn't have a problem with obviously didn't like T- New I look I can everything but it did catch me off guard at first by we got to knew each other like really quick and fell in love really quick in Lake like a lot of people it was like from her state to marriage was exactly six months and thankfully you know the only pushback we we got from family was from my family but more due to age anything else I know I was a little nervous with meeting his parents science and stuff but they are just the most amazing people and I don't know I think growing up in Georgia I had a lot of worries because with dating there was you know being les and Georgia. There's not a lot of black members and so the dating pool isn't very big and ban when you're dating there are a lot of families that just didn't weren't okay with interracial dating or interracial marriage and I mean we weren't even talking about marriage like even just dating aw challenging so I didn't know what to expect going into that but they were just. They've always saw something completely. Open and welcoming Wingham didn't have any issues. That's great that blows my mind. Though that there were there would be people who issue with that. I dated a guy just for a minute in it in college. who was a black football player? Super Great Kid like great grades. Neil actually knows him. Neil's like claim to fame a little league football with this guy when he had it's this episode of us talking about and my parents were great with it. They were so excited when I you you know what's going on dates with him as much as any other. You Know White Blue Purple does not like the never that was never an issue but also. I was raised by a mom who's WHO's half Japanese so she did such a good job of teaching me. Everyone is the same for children so now it's transitioned into children's. So how do you teach your kids about race. You know a for me. I've taken it in strides like we we home schooled for a couple years ears but even when we're not home schooling it's. I'm just like our home is a place of learning and talking discussing. I WanNa know what's going on in school and talking about conversations they had and we have a plethora of books on all sorts of topics. We celebrate loving day every year in June which is when interracial marriage became legal goal in our country which was only fifty years ago in all fifty eight so they're very aware and you know and I like them to know our history because I think got helps empower them because if you grow up like I did were I think my parents didn't really talk about it as much when it comes to the fore for and someone brings it up in you aren't aware of that history than it can be uncomfortable so I want my kids to feel empowered about our history. That's really this whole country's history and an embrace that but also not like every day. Let's talk about this said like hounded in. It's it's really like we kind of take take it as we go and we're always reading verse books and then books always open up conversations and questions and I just want them to ask me questions whenever it comes up so you know skin color comes up now and then and my kids might say well how come you're darker than me or my oldest actually is usually the one with these questions. Tom huckler daddy's the only white one in the family and things like that and and we talk about it but thankfully it's so far. You just spend you know really positive experiences than so. My kids have asked the same questions like they ask. Because you know my mom I just referenced her. She has darker or skin because she's half Japanese and it's really interesting my siblings and I are all the same exact heritage but three of the four of us have more like just kind all of skin and then my one brother has much darker skin like my mom were all super jealous of him like you know looks Tan every day of the year even if he hasn't seen the sun but it's definitely a a noticeably darker shade of skin he has my mom has and my kids have asked me about it. So what do you tell them when they ask you. Why does you know like you said. Why does skin and we don't are? Where are you dark. Oven me mom like what are you saying yeah. I mean really honestly I just I kind of break it down with science and a little religion like you know we talk about genetics. And how do you get all these cells in jeans in you. Get some things from your dad and some Thermes so you know talk about. Like what kind of things do you see from your gap. You know your curly hair is Mike Mine and things like that and then you know we also just her like God made you this way you know and we're all different and we're all unique and there is no one else in the world like you. There never has been there never will be you you know even though you and your siblings look similar and have similar skin tones like not exactly the same and you know and and just Kinda hone in on that individuality I love that that's a great answer and a great thing. I don't know that I've had that scientific. My in mind is not going to say so that I. I don't know that I've had that talk with my my kids but that's such a great place to go so I need to do that. So what do you tell your kids to try to prepare them for situations in school. Oh where people might ask them questions or they might have curiosity about other people. Yeah you know books is a huge resource for me because just just reading different stories about people that come from different places or about Um we have some books like anything it's like the colors of us or something and it talks about it describes skin color and all these different food ways and I think just honing in on those messages of of self love and being able to embrace that like with their hair and and things and 'cause like for me and one thing that has been a touchy topic for me is like people that just WanNa to come up and like play haired. I've I don't really take so long and you're just you're we don't know year you know and a kind of like when you're pregnant and people think they automatically can just touch you. Touch your belly and your data in the grocery store. I don't even know you exactly exactly like that. So you know I try to teach like okay. Your hair's your crown and you know it's your treasurer and you don't have to let people touch it and you can tell them like joy and my daughter told me like mom. I like it when people play with and like so I have to also understand it you know she might have different feelings about it and she has the right to like. She's okay with certain friends or you know. Maybe like breeding or error doing something then that's okay and that's up for her a two to decide but yeah you know. I really I try to stay in front of things as much as I can just with positively teaching them you know self Lovin even because you know we always have those messages on TV. You know her idols who she loves like with these different movies and stuff like she loves descendants in the camera and you know they don't always look like her so I try to reinforce with extra books in reason pictures some things that people who do so that she can always come back and see beauty in a lot of different ways and hopefully you know I mean. She can take things things better than I did. Growing up or people like talk about my hair skin color you know or whatever and hopefully she can handle it a little it better essay she my oldest because my son is kind of like Oh. It's different with boys sometimes. What are their ages so my oldest. She's nine and she's in third grade. My son is six and he's in first grade and baby just turned one so I'm you know we're kind of taking it step by step. I think as they get older. It's going to be so different. You know what they're dealing with right now. But thankfully you know we've gone through the harassing. You know why is my hair so currently everyone else's hair so silky you know but I think she really likes her. Girls now and hopefully things will continue to go in that direction yeah. I love what you said. A second ago about your hair's your crown what a beautiful idea right. Now is probably the time that you're going to start thinking talking about stalking your pantry up with things that are easy to throw together. Put in a Crock Pot. Feed your family when they're starving and it's cold outside. It's just that time of year so if if you haven't shopped thrive market yet. You really need to try it. Out is my favourite for stocking our pantry. You can go to thrive market DOT COM Slash Mint Ero and get twenty five percent off their already already reduced prices you guys they have the best organic stuff. I absolutely love their Taco seasoning. It's not too spicy. My kids love it too. their extra virgin olive oil. 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Positive with your a positive role model that you remember anyone that had like a really positive influence on you with this idea of self love and owning who you are and embracing it yeah you know it's funny because I always I think a lot about you know we hear these messages is and sometimes you hear people say stuff like Oh. It's important to see people who look like you and you think. Is it really you know like I admire people who look like me and I am. I don't look like me but when I think back to my childhood any STU by idols where my mind goes to three people and they're all black women and it's like it's like wow like when I think back to that one was Whitney Houston. I loved her singing and I just slate everything in the hangar. I love does it. You know I actually I'll probably like people everywhere. Another was a news anchor in Atlanta. Her name was Monica. Kaufman and I knew that I wanted to be on the news and I just love to Washington every night and it was. It was really cool seeing her anchor the news because on every other station. You didn't release these someone who knew so. I saw her in that okay. I can do that because yeah he did that and then Oprah you we know is another that really crosses all the lines but you know these are people who I saw doing amazing things that they think like I can do that to you know even though AH presidents and my teachers and you know my leaders at Church and a lot of other people don't look like me like seeing them made me feel like I could do those big things to totally well. I have to tell you every day not every day oftentimes at four. pm I'm like Oh I turn Oprah and then uh-huh oh yeah she hasn't been on the air and ever but I still they're still something about seeing the clock and seeing it say four o'clock and thinking like Oh yeah Oprah's. There's GonNa be there having something right found to say does have you listened to the podcast and making oprah no I haven't it's he would love it no so it's by someone and they did interview her but it's not hers so but it is fascinating at this three part I believe leave. It's an hour no maybe thirty minutes. I can't even remember because it's been a couple of years since I listen to it but it is so fascinating. There's only three episodes and it just walks you through. Oh how she became you know how became Oprah and the thing I love the most about it. Is that talks about how she got to this point point in her career where she was in that phase of television where Jerry Springer was big and Phil Donahue is big and they the the network came to her and said you need to be unique to be just like them. You need to bring people in and have people pitted against each other and that she had this moment where she watched this woman's life get completely destroyed on national TV or she found out that I think she found out her husband spend was cheating on her or something. An of course it made a great TV show but she said in that moment she said I won't I. I'm not doing this. I will never do this again. It's kind of trash. TV kind of thing where you're destroying someone's life because it makes for a good show and she said that she did this whole. I won't ruin ruin it but like you have to listen to it because I just decided to take down for making positive impact on people's lives and always doing things that were uplifting or helpful and how you know at first her ratings dropped a little bit and then she just took off over the world and is so hasn't yeah is continues to be ah the most powerful woman world so yeah pretty cool and I agree she's. She's one of my idols to okay. I want to ask you. We've talked just a second ago about how you are trying to find like movies and media and role models for your daughter and we spoke just a tiny talk about this. I think over the M but I know you guys are big Disney fans. Yeah I wanNA hear your reaction to the block. The casted role for aerial meant to you what your feelings are with that he got Haley Barry. Lee are so Bailey daily. Sorry Mike when it first went for the now sounds like Halle Berry a she's a little and then I was like like well okay well. She's still black. This is yeah amazing. Yeah rear really excited about it. I think you know like we were just talking about. It can be hard when you're a kid in a lot of the people that you admire. Don't look like you you. I don't think it's necessarily hard and I don't think I mean. I don't think that my daughter looks at it as like it's hard and I don't think that as a kid growing up I looked at it like it was hard but looking getting back I can see some of the influence that things you know had me or like Oh wow had I had this that like. I loved Ariel when I was as a kid like Houdini and in kindergarten I wore red wig and the area costume for Halloween and it's so funny because the middle section like the mid section was just a nude color like Saquon who need because it was right so I'd be like by Brown arms and legs and then like obeys midsection but I didn't I was like whatever and thankfully my mom didn't care. You can be whoever you want to be it and you know I think that was like I didn't care in that moment but looking back. It's like Oh wow like. That's awesome that I thought that but how awesome is this. GonNa be for kids now like not just my daughter who will see a Disney princess who who looks like her. It'd be able to see herself in her like shirl out of redheaded girls looked at aerial growing up in probably still do but everyone else it's GonNa like I'm actually kind of excited for the rest of the world to see a black aerial this iconic Disney character on on the big screen and just to like love her and who she is and how she looks and you know because we really haven't had bats and you know I'm. I'm thinking of processing the frog like Tian but she's a frog from us the movie but I so I feel like this is just black. Princess on the big screen is just it's so huge and I'm just so excited for it like for it right. I I am too. I am one hundred percent behind it. How did you feel about people who pushed back. Though who said this was the one read Disney princess and what are you doing. You're ruining like what was your. What was your reaction to that. Yeah you know I was just I mean I was really disappointed at first kind of seeing that and like I was getting tagged and some the comments on the Disney posted a like burst my bubble I mean I understand because people have a hard time with change. You know they get an idea in their head. In this is how it should should be. I mean every time I see a live action remake. I might go importing everything. They changed and dinner Jane. Yes of but I think that so to that end. I can understand how initially the shock is surprising. I think that they will keep her hair red. So if you blur upset about that I think I think that she will still have red hair when people are upset about the skin color like I think you know she's a mermaid. She you know that's like it's up for debate on what they should really really look when they really look like you know. Maybe they can have grades. I don't think it matters I think that I hope that people really like sit back back in and think about what it means for so many people and to open their eyes to how beauty can look so different and you know we we are not losing anything with the aerial from the eighties. You know we still have her and we still or is it ninety two in his nineties. We still have her. You know you can go to Disneyworld Disneyland and still meet her and see her and she's not going away. We're just getting another version version of that and I think that that's really beautiful and I hope that everyone Kimberly Brady stop and get excited amen to that. I mean it couldn't have been said more perfectly. I agree with everything you just said. So what do you think people can do to contribute to progress. I feel like we've made a lot of progress. You know I you watch movies or read books about what life was like in this country not that long ago and it's pretty shocking being that we were still segregating bathrooms not that long ago and like you said it was. I think like you know I feel like every year. I'm reading reading in the news like the first Prov that's not segregated at parts of Alabama and stuff and yeah crazy so like I said we've come along somewhere but we still have a long ago so what can people do to contribute to progress and be more inclusive you know I think that it's interesting with social media because I think that we can see a lot of negativity and I think that there is a lot of like sometimes anger and and you know from some people who feel like for so long people haven't been listening and it just gets built up in as anger than others feel like they can't approach that without like you said earlier. Sometimes you feel like you're walking on eggshells. You don't WanNa say the wrong thing and yes. You want to make sure you don't offend anyone. and I think think that we all should try not to be afraid of that and be welcoming and kind of look around and see like things. Are you attending. What are your groups like. What are your circles. Look like an you know. Is there room to invite someone else who doesn't look like you. You know to talk to someone who doesn't look like you. I mean it can be online. It could be offline too. You know I think communities look different by taking the time to reach out and I think everyone for me. He can get exhausting like after feeling like a spokesperson or something but I feel like for me. I like to be open and be that person that yes you can ask me. African American or Black Yudo is okay are not. GonNa get upset or you know started debate with you or anything you know. I think it's just really important to have these conversations stations and not be afraid to have these conversations to diversify our friends to diversify our books. You know our reading material all in the movies that were showing kids like the new Anne that came out you know she's black and watching movies that are going to my kids love that movie isn't it doctors and the new soundtracks awesome so good. I Love Jamie asks going you know supporting the the new aerial even though she doesn't look exactly like the old aerial just being open to to having conversations with people who don't look like you and biting leading them into conversations in just an even like if you're not comfortable talking because not everyone is maybe just taking the time to like read from people role who are sharing their experiences and what they're going through because a lot of people you know writing about that putting it out there and going into it and not feeling like you have to contribute to the conversation. Is that your point of view but just being able to like sit back and listen you know open yeah so you've talked a lot about books and then media and do you have a list or even just like a few things you can rattle off that you think people could read or either read themselves or read you to their kids or movies or you mentioned. Anne which we love but what other suggestions do you have because I'm always looking for stuff like that to pads to or to open my mind to new ideas for sure so I have. I have like list on my blog and I think I'm GonNa Redo it. I I have some like that. I think I wrote black history month but then I realized like I should Davis and just make it for any time like just diverse books that you can read because they aren't like necessarily about black history but they just have you know maybe black main characters or story about someone from Africa or you know people with different color skin like colors of me. I mentioned earlier the loving story a we can link to this in our show notes too because I'd love to have this list that people can easily just tap on if they're listening to this on their phone or whatever so we'll talk to your blog post with the list of books that'd be yeah and I think I'm gonNA keep adding this to like started a like a book a day with my kids just like checking out a bunch of books in a library in reading something every today and I fell off the wagon with that but but we still have so many books that we've been through that I have you know been listening in writing about wine that I really. It's a beautiful book called dancing in the wings. It's about a black ballerina. I mean it's really about Abou- arena but just you know so if you're like dance and like ballet. I think this is a book that is amazing because it's got beautiful illustrations. You know it's a pretty story and it's it's. It's not like it's you know talking about race or anything. Necessarily you know it's just like another book to add to your shelf fit. Maybe has a different character on it. a grace for president is a super cute book that talks about day running for class president and it kind of talks about electoral votes and things like that we read that around the election and and is just a cute book in the main characters. A black girl her classes super diverse. I love my hair is acute book yet all I can. I can send you the link yes. We'll put this in our show notes but those are some great suggestions movies too like Anne haven't seen that Cinderella with brandy. Oh Yeah it's an older like I think it came out in the nineties. Brandy Cinderella and I wouldn't is is very godmother music. The prince's Asia and like it's a super diverse would be Goldberg is confirming small. It's a super diverse. UK were I will for sure add that to my list of movies to watch with my girls. They'll love that yeah. How Fun Okay I do want to ask you a tough question and I WANNA be careful in the way that I ask this okay because I'm not asking for like bad words. But what should people not say like. Can you educate us a little bit. You said a little bit at the very beginning about don't ever use the word colored which I agree with that. Is there anything outs that you're like. Don't use this phrase or maybe just avoid saying things like this that someone well-meaning might just write in realize yeah. I think that a few things that Kinda will come off. It's it's not like like you're saying like bad words or anything because I think a lot of people know like okay. Don't take color. Don't say the word like things like that but something that that people say a lot that I don't think they realize how it comes across there's Tasers when people tell me you're so well spoken or you're so well-spoken is usually what I hear and I know that it's well meaning being but my mind kind of always goes to is that because you think that black people all sound assertain way you know and you know so. I think if you're going to say something something like that to a black person being aware like think I like. Why are you saying that convey a super like verbose. Maybe you could use that word like wow you're taber posts or something but would you say well spokane I think that that kind of comes across is like you. Don't expect people to sound matinee anything that starts with. I'm not racist by always like kind of come to be like Oh. No what's coming back like I gotta like Brace Myself Alfred Whatever's coming yeah so just kind of like okay. Stop herself second. Think about what you're about to say while you're saying that why you feel like you need to preface it with if that's right and then just I think anytime bit like with we saw this with the areal thing in conversations like well you already have Tiana and why can't you know you can just like her. What if we changed geometry being white like you know thinking about those things where that's coming from and and maybe not jumping to don't be dismissive. I guess what I'm trying to say like to what someone might feeling about it when you're saying things like that it's kind of like dismissing their feelings and you know saying that your feelings on it or more important yeah. I think that just those are probably the main main things that's really helpful and I know that's kind of an awkward question to bring up but you know it's just there are a lot of things like this. where I I WANNA know like I want to be better? I want to know more. You Know Yeah Yeah. I think it's great that you're asking and I think that you know it's also important like I say these things. I am not like a spokesperson for black people and I know you know this but one thing that that I think about a lie and that I I think even in our community. I think we're starting to get better at but just knowing that we don't all think like like we don't want other people to think that we think alike but we also need to be aware that like you know we can all belong to different. Political parties different have different opinions on what someone said about you know one thing so you know what we want to be called or you know natural hair. You know like we can have just as many varying opinions as people have any other race so totally totally. I A hundred percent agree with that and I. I'm glad that you brought that up because yeah I don't want it to seem like oh I brought Jennifer on here and she's just going to speak for everyone and everyone you everyone who's black thinks but at the same time it's just important to have these conversations and make room for them and they you know give everyone everyone a chance to think like think about Oh. Have I ever said those things. How can I better or am I exposing my kids to enough diversity that when they meet that someone who's different than them that they'll feel comfortable like Oh yeah. This is part of my life right. Hey Guy Right where it's not like something that stands out ah I kept this with my kids like you know if my son saw someone acting in a wheelchair or with some kind of racer or something on and and I saw his I begging he was about to say something and I'm like okay like everyone and I was like wow like eight. Hundred was the moment deliver me like maybe we did have a conversation about how different people move and walk and get around and you know. I think it could be the same staying with opaque and he used to like when I was in Utah. I I can remember people being like well. You know look at her. You know like if you're not exposed exposed to it. The I know as a parent like it can be mortifying by. I think you can like you said avoid kind of things by showing diversity. It's your kids. Even if it's not around you yes and I was just reading to my girls before bed a couple of nights ago. They love the book where all wonders and it's like a kid. It's like a children's book version of the book. Wonder I don't remember if it's just wonder but have you seen that movie with having summer movie but I I know it of it ah yeah so they made a very simple like children's bedtime story version of that and I was reading it to my girls and talking to him about you might meet someone at school that looks different than you and they might have different challenges and they might not be exactly like you and it's really important to be kind to everyone conversation and he can never do too much of that because really that is the essence of. I feel like that is the common thread with all religions with all uh-huh doing in the world is just love one another. Yes loves US so what's your goal with this best case scenario if you could set up the future for your children and what they can have when they reach adulthood. What do you hope the world looks more like you know. I really just hope I I mean like I think it's a little bit cheesy to say but like Martin Luther King in his dream like I feel like that is still still so true and what so many of us want you know where people are looked at and considered for who they are and not what they look like and you know I want every child you know to know that that they can achieve whatever despite what they look like in this really goes across the board like no matter what your background is. I think that we can kids start out so minded minded. They have the limitless potential and by the time they graduate high school. That window of opportunity is so small. You know. It's like gene two. There is like the window hasn't changed but to there is it's like inches open you know and to just continue to keep that open for them and oh. I think a lot of that comes with what we say to them and so. I think that's why I'm I'm really careful with my kids to not give them a complex about their potentially being setbacks because of the way that they look like I don't want to put that in their head. I don't even want that in their head. I if something comes up like yes. That's a conversation that we're going to have him. We're GONNA like nipped in the bud but I don't want them to think that they are limited at all especially actually not the way that they look so I I just hope that is a society like as a country specifically that we get over like this this. I feel like we're kind of weird like Hump Right now and I hope we can just pass day in all love each other. Eh I hope so too. I'm with you a hundred percent. It really feels frustrating sometimes to look around and be like we have so much to be thankful for here so many good things going for us. Let's pull ourselves back together. Hopefully cognitive something horrible way a huge natural disaster for suggest remember humanity and what it's like to just care about your neighbor right I could I feel like nine. Eleven did exactly oh it did woke up at risk sleep and they woke up to the fact of people are just people cool and we need to support and love each other and be kind and help your neighbor out right now. Absolutely I mean they say that when I've I've read about this like optimism and accept something that I feel like I I really try to speak about having my message is optimism. When everything's going well quote unquote you know in our country in Staffan. It's like you kind of do start to turn against your neighbors because it's like you know like who who are family their family like but then when they're some kind of out side for stick comes in whether from another country or you know about this all the time. I have another planet attacked us. We would totally be united as a we'd all band together. It's true finally albeit together. That's what it would take A. I yeah you know I hope that we can. There's enough positive choices out there and I you know I have faith are and I have made them like I think the pendulum on swinging right now but I think it's the action I think people are Gonna be able to wake up without some kind of disaster in kind of realized like hey life is too short short like like we really need to appreciate what we have in in these people who beck stress I don't WanNA walk around angry every day right someone when you know people well you've given me so many good ideas so many good things to think about for my own journey and for my motherhood it and my children and helping them to have a more loving open view of the world what I need to ask you my one last question as if there's only one thing people remember from this podcast episode. What's your one message that you want people to remember. I think I really want people to remember were Kinda to self evaluate and not be afraid of a difference because I think that what's that saying. They say that he isn't the opposite of love. It's ear or something like that. I I think that you know and we fear the unknown and I think it can be scary. Eight hundred knowing you know anything about someone else's experience especially someone who maybe practices a different religion and looks differently than you you know like it just the more and more different like more if you're full you can be but I think just just open yourself up to getting to know different people whether there're personally or through the research and just opening your heart to loving others. I I love that message and really you are just one of my favorite people to be inspired by. 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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 933  Mooooorrrreee Injuries

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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 933 Mooooorrrreee Injuries

"Hello episode. Nine thirty three of the sleeper in the buzzed in it's thursday may twenty seven. I'm eurosport joined this morning by justin mason just in good morning sir. Good morning how you doing. I'm very well. Do you want know why i'm very well. I do want to way very well. There's now twitch feed of an honor cain jr at as you. Now look a little. Bit of an honor snob. I prefer asian. Small clawed river honors basically. Just river otters. I find them a bit cuter these are. It'll it'll suffice. Though they're adorable it's hilarious. One was using this like yoga mat type thing as a blanket. Another one came up and literally just yoink from him went on his back and use it as a blanket for himself so it was a clear thieving of like. I wanna use this. It was so mean and yet so funny how are you doing. I'm doing well. I love morning baseball. Like me too me out for me to be able to like have breakfast and watch the rockies face the match triple eighteen. it's all triple versus aaa. Although as we were talking rockies actually putting out a decent lineup here against stroh so it's really more they're pitching aaa which will go well for the mets lineup. Yeah i'll be interested to see how marquez dozen this one because is someone in our discord is like we'll do i start marquez against the mats. Unlike if you can't start him on the road against the mets cottam yet. There's no reason for him to be on your team at that's a slam dunk or decision maker for you. That if you don't feel comfortable enough to do it here he gets to go. Because you know he's coming off of a gem against arizona in a pretty decent one against cincinnati both on the both at home. Excuse me so yes. Thirteen innings with four runs over his last two outings and sixteen strikeouts still. Has the walks. Got three in each of those for marquez. And then a gem at saint louis before that so we have three straight three straight good ones here former. You gotta be developing some competent. So hopefully they started him. I mean he hasn't done anything yet. Been pitched when given up any runs. That's that's that's a great. That's a great point. But yeah i think you gotta go forum or else you know that you need to go ahead and cut him so we got tons of news and notes to go through and we're gonna go through the starting pitchers that your higher on some very unsurprising names but then a few gems mixed in there as well We can't talk about but let's start with these men some. This'll shock you. Somebody returning from. Tommy john struggled and now as to shutdown noah syndergaard shut down six weeks as. He's working his way back. And it's it's almost as if players returning from tommy. John are massive massive risk. And you know this. i'm. I'm not trying to sound all flip in or like like i'm dunking on or anything. It's just this is why. I don't want the hassle of returning tj players. Because i don't think the upside is that much and there's so much downside so he's shut down for the next six weeks. I mean automatic. Cut right yeah. Yeah i don't i don't think i mean chances are he may not even make it back until august. September if at all We we barely thought he should have been drafted so when you when you tack on six weeks to a timetable. That's that's an auto cut. So that's where we're at on that i. I think we can move on quickly because it. It's it's just a straightforward thing and then be careful with submarine sales. Same sort of stuff can happen. It's it's just a big risk. And like i said. I just don't think that the payoff is usually. They're the only way. I ended up. Going for a tj returner in his in. The europe is return is that there are free agent pickup if someone gives up and then maybe i see like a decent spot start but the inconsistency is just too much to deal with so thor down an extra six weeks. Be careful with sale severino. let's talk marcelo zona. He hurt his fingers broken as an injury report. That's official thing. I think he's are hurted. No here and his fingers. Big trouble Going to cost them. Some time doesn't sound like a summary until you see that it's gonna take them out for a while you see this slide in which he noted yet this from from the john you knew this trouble. Yeah i mean he dislocated. I think both his middle and ring finger Yeah i wanna see a yeah. He was immediately sent to back to atlanta to have further testing. He's gonna be doused. Yeah down for a while so Which is a huge bummer especially because people drafted him super high and got virtually nothing out of him and now to thirteen eighty hundred fifty six. The power was there. We had seven homer so we had something to kind of latch onto a like hell kay. He is recognized like lowest isos. That's two thousand fifteen yet. It was still a power decrease but it wasn't a full-scale power outage so you know you were hoping than just wade out the coming regression to forty four bab. The strikeout-to-walk rates were in line. Didn't look like he was going to have just this colossal bad year. If if time was there now you're gonna miss at least six weeks. This is bad. I have to ask somebody that goes. Oona is he potentially on the cutting block as these injuries pile up. It's not hard to envision. A number of teams where he's their fourth fifth sixth injury and leaves with i l. Spots are probably already filled with guys better than that so these start to look as a as a potential cut. I don't think i'm cutting him But i can understand especially in your shower leagues if you're a wrecked by injuries that that being the decision you have to make. But his upsides to great. Yeah no i. I understand that i understand that. And we're still talking even if they go ahead and just go full eight weeks. We're talking around the trade deadline. Then that he would return he can still give you. You know that that. Stretch run their of two plus months. what he did on that two months last year i mean hit. Eighteen home runs three thirty eight adding average. You'd hate to give that to an opponent because he will be like instantly picked up by somebody else will. Yeah because it's one of those situations kind of in reverse always say player needs to be rostered but not necessarily about you. It's like player. Needs to be cut and doesn't mean that nobody else can get like your team might facilitate that cut because you're in so much trouble with your injuries but that doesn't mean that everyone's gonna feel that way and like you said he'd probably get picked up so i might be more inclined to try to trade where you can. What about an. I still trying to bend over backwards to not cut him. I'm trying to. I mean that's going to be a tougher situation. Gotta have about much zun zona. You know on to cut one of them. Say those back. Oh yeah yelich back. that's right. that's right better trying to make this hard for you. Who's who's who's another big big injury. That's down right now ringer. Okay so springer in buxton your outfield. You thought it was so great now. You missed three of them and say you just have those three injuries you keep all three of them and just go with four reserves or would you kai i probably would think you have to try you try and then you you. Just finagle it as long as you can and you know this goes back to something that we talk about a lot that you and i have been in the industry as as a whole but i think you know we we. We bang the drum pretty hard for positional flexibility. And this is where it comes into play as well is when you are running light because of your health you want those tommy edmonds max on your team to maneuver around set. Maybe you can try to pull off surviving with with three catastrophic injuries and only four for bench spots in the nfc situation. So do your best to keep him. There's probably going to be some marcelo. Suna cuts out there. And i don't necessarily blame those folks but do your best because like you said you don't wanna give away. Potentially double digit home is to somebody which he can definitely do in a two month. Run to cap off the season. All right next up is oh zack. Say still dumb. And that's what it says. I just read what. I wrote it my own writing but i'm just reading one. It says here Because what does this story. We're supposed to believe now. He hulk hogan his shirt off or something and broke his what what happened. Just the so. He apparently aggressively ripped his shirt off after his last. Start it off on a chair when he broke his thumb pulling his hand away. So this is one of those things that If you're gamer you've definitely had it but probably a universal thing at some point in your life we overreact to something and then either you break something like You know the the ideal would be like a controller. Someone gets pissed slams controller. Just realizes that louis lamb or utd. Yeah they just slammed sixty five dollars on the ground or in case of a couple of hundred bucks they broke and you instantly snap out of whatever you were mad about realized how aggressively stoop and you are in this case. You broke his own hand on thumb and real is going to cost them a lot more than sixty five dollars. An exactly. my overreaction here has has caused me big time. And i still them because last year took a lot of flack for after a big outing. Flaunting coburn rules and costing him in clemenger some time because They went out. Got in trouble so you know he. He's not the sharpest reactor. When it comes to things like this. And i you know i i call him dumb as somebody who who can relate at times to overreacting and then realizing that the overreaction is now just made things exponentially worse than what whatever you are reacting to was and so now you have to deal with the repercussions of that. So it's not gonna require surgery but what about police act now. Put him on our on our fictional struggling health team here does he become a cut in In in different leagues. Where either your. I l. has filled up if you have them or the nfc situations where you don't even get them whereas please sack on on the cut. Cut tom dominator. If you will. I think in ten and twelve team leagues he's With relative ease if you have again multiple injuries your eyes are filled you've got and springer cetera et cetera. Then you start to You cut please check. Let's go main event than fifteen team are you. Have you have to catastrophic injuries. So he's your third. You cut number you hanging. I think i'm trying to hang But i mean you know the question becomes you know we. We don't yet have a timetable is far as far as we know right So we don't know like he could be back in three weeks. he could be bad. He might be out freight weeks. So i'd like to try to wait as long as i can. But my biggest concern becomes you know his biggest asset in terms of fantasies. How deep he can go into a game And let's say he's gonna miss look split the difference say he misses six weeks If he when he comes back he's unable to go the seven eight innings. We've been seeing him go in a lot of his starts this year. Like how much value does he actually have yet. What if police commanders compromised by the finger to where he's like back enough to pitch or they just wanna limit him also. Yeah you're saying just flat out like caution like cleveland. And i'm mixing in potential residual so either or both could be problematic And that you're talking about will. But then i mean if it's the case of they are gonna limit him. I was a sweet double-play But if they're gonna limit him league then you're talking about a guy for the next ten weeks that isn't gonna be really valuable to your team. So in in that scenario you're talking about a guy that is valuable until beginning of august. You've gotta on someone like that. Yeah yeah now and again. Of course it becomes. Who can you get off. The wire is a big question to just looking at my main event. Real quick your boys on the wire andrew. Heaney what i know. I just i just saw that i mean for i mean. This is a very unique circumstance. He's ninety eight percent rostered. So i'm just bringing up you know in a specific situation So you would obviously do that. I mean i would be super aggressive. We're gonna talk about how we're gonna we're gonna get into heaney. What about some guys. Who are more likely to be available real. Quick like a Tyler anderson for pittsburgh who had been pitching well in his er as is moved up but he still has a one. Twenty-three whip to go with the four seventy three era tower anderson. Strike your fancy. I think so would either keller brad or mitch mitch would okay k. And then last one justice sheffield or just in done the to seattle youngsters either of them. Draw any Appeal done is at a three forty year one twenty-six web sheffield five. Era one fifty three whip And done also eight percent man. Some guy's got kind in my league that Needed they really really want you to win. The overall yeah they're throwing some they're throwing some bones out there What would either seattle guy. I appeal to you Don is interesting. Mean sheffield's interesting to the underlying stuff on done can be very very scary because he is so close his strikeout walk right. I mean he's got a fifteen percent walk rate and it has not come back to bite him yet. So you mean you look at like the indicators and they're all run and a half over his three forty are a but he is striking people out the few times. I have watched pitch this year. I've actually been somewhat impressed by stuff. I don't that i would do that though. Yeah i don't know especially with him yet. He's the better of the two by by results right now but there may be some up. Come coming with that walk. Great so i hear you there. I'm gonna bring up one of the guys. Just because i don't understand and you know we didn't do the watch party yesterday because they got a little busy and our game. Got finagle around. But frankly i wish i would have because carlos martinez got taken out for john gant and i wanna watch john because he threw another scoreless outing and he doesn't make an ounce of sense so it would have been fun to break him down and it's actually encouraged me. I'm going to write about him either today or tomorrow for the site because he has a two. Oh four era. Justin with a near one to one strikeout-to-walk. Yes thirty. two strikeouts. Twenty eight walks in his thirty nine and two thirds a one fifty six era so as era and whip are close one fifty six whip disgusting. Would you cut. would you cut. Police act again Think i would. That's i mean he's so i don't understand how he's having so much. Success with it was last year he had some success two out of the bullpen. But there was skills behind this year. He's like i don't wanna strike anybody out. I wanna walk. Everybody and still have a two or four year can you. Can you facilitate that. And the devil said sure. Let me just get that tasty little soul that you have. And that's what that's what happened right. It had been a selling of his soul. Because this doesn't make any sense you're the one fifty seven point one. Eight hundred linear right. I mean he's getting a ton of ground balls and he's inducing a fair amount of week contact but there's very little in this profile that makes a ton of sense a racked I really i mean he's like he's being. The opposite of aggressive is his his first. Pitch strike rate is fifty five percent so it's getting behind early Saying you know what he's just he's like. I'd rather walk you than let you. I mean he's taken that to the extreme talk about guys like that. That have purposeful walks. I think trevor. Rogers if you really wanna see that in action where he's absolutely not afraid to walk somebody there's purpose behind that but then rogers comes back and strikes out the next two guys gant walks the next guy as well to load the bases and then gets like a week grounder to somehow get out of it with a quadruple play and he gets to carry over that fourth out to the next. I haven't seen it. This is the only way. I can figure that it's working though is that he's pulling off like double plays with two outs and the and the second out gets to carry over something like that right. It has to be because this makes no sense. He is allowed one homerun. This year allowed zero home runs last year. So there's something with deception drunkenness. Here i wish story. I i know i know and i regret that i was like i just. I was just too busy. And i thought it'd be responsible in the to punt and now like i really wish we could have watched that because we can had a bunch of is on it to at least somebody in there could have figured out. What the heck's going on with. John gant so maybe we'll try to find his next start. Hopefully it's an day start again next week because we got to watch him but anyway i want to lump in corey kluber here real quick as far as far as we're doing our news because he's also out for four weeks right now shut down for four weeks. That doesn't mean that he's necessarily back. He's gonna be out for two months with a sub scabby laris muscle strain. That's not great bob. This sucks he was having a rebirth season. And he's hurt again. I imagine he's more of a cut than please sec. Forty though despite this production right because it's two months locked in. Yeah i think so. Just because it's it's such a long period of time already locked in. It's it's a bummer. Because if the injury timetables were the same. I probably take kluber. They were dead the same I think i agree with you. So all those same guys that we talked about you. would you would go for for kluber to cut kluber. Any of them joined the fray. The seattle guys become more appealing with the set timetable of goober or is still cautious on them. And you wait for somebody else. Yeah i think. I'm cautious on them and wait for someone else. The that makes makes sense. I wouldn't jump at the first thing. That's the thing to you. Don't have to pitcher for pitcher socially if you have somebody on your reserve that you like you can get a big hitter for kluber. Police act too. I just do the pitching the pitching because it marries easier of saying. I'm replacing him with this guy. One guy i didn't bring up. Who is on wires you know. He's seventy percent roster seventy seven percent roster. So he's going to pop up on a handful martine peres. He's been on and off. he's been fine. he's been himself this year. Which means you're going to get a handful good starts and then you're going to get your duds mixed in but right now. He's got three fifty five era when the one thirty one whip whip is always going to be high which means the are a when it sub four. You should feel like it's probably gonna get back into the low to mid fours. But would martine peres draw any interest from you with regards to cutting kluber or police sack for him That's a tough one. I probably have to look at the matchups to be honest. Yeah because you know. You've got a good chance of winning. The game because boston is so good. Yeah he's doing a lot of really interesting stuff it gets. He gets miami tomorrow. Which obviously doesn't do anything i in. Nfc can't pick them up until until sunday anyway. Somebody daily league. You can get him tomorrow for miami which i'd be interested in but then he has a trip to houston the following week. Which know yeah. I don't want to single out and back you have boston. Pitchers said those foals including One of your boys that we're gonna talk about richard's at houston at new york is there. Is there a road trip. That sounds fun. Yeah that's that's going to be painful. He's got the to start. That richards does and peta they. They have a full week. Two guys that are like. They're those cusp guy. Both on my main event and ohio that whole if you can't start them into you probably shouldn't have them. This would be one of those exceptions. Though where i don't think i would start either but i'm not cutting them i and that's you know that's why i try to be clear that it's not a definitive hundred percent rule it's it's kind of litmus test that you should run a guy through that if you can't start them in a to start you probably shouldn't roster them but then you look at somebody like richards and peta who have been pitching pretty well but they get this devastating to start on the road. Just no no light at the end of the tunnel. I bench him and i don't i don't cut either. Are you going to i mean. Can you afford to bench both guys in your main. That's what i'm trying to. I'm actually. I just brought up like the schedule for my team next week. And i'm like. I don't know that i can't i think i'm gonna roll out the that Oh i don't have richardson that one. But it would either be it would. There's a league where you have both right. There's definitely for sure. I mean you pay. I think if you're deciding between like my options are like pathetic or mitch. Keller you just need a little use. Gave him a little love. I'll let me tell you who is start as against real quick. For comparison sake he's gonna turn city lammi. He's got kansas city so either way it's a good start. Yeah i think. I would go keller and i'm not even as high on him as you are but i think that's just such a scary to even with a yankee team. That isn't full on yankees. It's still in yankee stadium. And it's coming off the houston if a trip to new york has to be your salvaging outing because you got ripped for five or six in houston. I don't want the prospects of that so again. There are people that probably have both like you can go one in. But i don't think oh man. Both would be really tough to start. You know. there's an all team out there that has both and they've been running hot because things are going well and they're going to be like oh no you can't send them in jail only because i think what you're gonna put in it's going to come down to league your teen contract to because like for instance like one of my main event has an era of two seven nine five and a whip of point nine nine three. Okay you feel like. I can risk it there to get those strikeouts per share my other one. You know it's a little bit different. Where i still got a pretty good yard wet but like everybody has a good like a five three. Era in my other main is like middle of the pack. Wow that's where pitching is right. Now talk about. We've been talking about how you know batting. Averages are lower. So don't freak out on a bad batting average or what we used to perceive as a bad batting average this goes the other way and says not every ear as no longer created equal to. Don't look at a mid threes and say oh he's a god automatically so that's a good. That's a good point. See team construction is going to play there. That was just a little tangent on on those guys because brought martinez and then. I saw their devastating week next week. Let's get back into the injuries here. trent grisham is going to go down for a little bit. It doesn't really. It's going to be too long. That's what they're saying least but we're starting to develop a little bit of a history here with With grisham has health. This is a left foot contusion Should you know th they're optimistic but it's what didn't progress as quickly as hoped so he's going to be out and going to be on the i l. for a little bit how you feel about gresham overall here. That's the main reason. I wanna bring them up because the injuries starting to pile up a bit. Yeah yeah it's It's a bit concerning for sure is special because it seems to be these little nagging things that continued. Adjust reoccur I mean when he's in the lineup. He's really really good. So that's the thing that it hasn't touched. His production is still an absolute g with six homers. Seven steals three zero one average eight ninety eight zero p. s. So you're obviously like. There's nothing actionable here. It's more a status check on on grisham than anything else. Yeah i mean For those of you who Love to hear me talk about me. And my wife She's got grisham. she has machado. She has Matt duffy just went on the i l. is well luke. Void just went on the i l. I am going to win. By a battle of attrition here. You're you're bragging again. My teams even more injured than her. Because i remember the other hubris that you had coming out of the draft and then it quickly turned at the beginning of the season of like. Oh i am going to get dominated by her. And now you're back to you're gonna win by attrition. the that sucks man. Because i know both just getting pummeled by injuries. And that's that's not the fun way to win and all but yeah grisham going down for a little bit. Hopefully it is shorter. Term thing the thing of it is. He's just so good that you still have to have them as very highly rated outfielder Have you finished your your outfield rankings. Yet i have not. it's my last ranking this same. And i'm going to be tackling those today after this in fact and i'm still going to have grisham remarkably high. I don't know exactly where yet to give an idea. I had him thirty fifth coming into the season. He's actually gonna move up on on that Some of it will be the attrition. But i think he's going to be top thirty eight so good like even with the health. I mean how can i. I haven't twentieth coming into the season. he is definitely going to be dropping furby. How though because there's going to be a lot of attrition just above him i mean he got There's recounts going above him. You know putting a dullest garcia of mirny thing. Though you know robert zona there are boy. You put in salt lake above him. I think i might think it's lack in his range. I think grisham has proven a bit more especially with the speed solex on the field again. I mean how concerned are you about this this foot. It's not the foot necessarily It's more a matter everything. Yeah it's the combination of all these injuries that continue to reoccur about it with pitchers right. Oh guy has a a tricep tissue while but that's now going to affect you know this or that you know and you gotta wonder if like he just needs some time to truly get healthy and time is money. No i totally understand that time is the time volume and fantasy and that is very important. Being on the field is such an amazing skill. We talk about health. Being a skill doesn't mean that everyone who gets hurt is is is flawed in some way but when you can stay on the field that i mean that's just such a massive massive thing to be able to do to get that volume so i hear you there and i'm gonna have select higher for sure we probably knock enough so aca of melanoma looking at it realizing wasn't running. That's that's what i'm saying. That's the edge. That grisham has. But but i do think is booming up for us because we both liked him and I think there's definitely going to you know there's definitely some backing into what we liked about him. Being shown in his hitting at the very least now just need to get him running speaking. I'm running another tangent. Here's the tangent filled thursday Magic of his cell number. So can you tell said mullins that like. He's supposed to be successful when he doesn't. He's six for ten. Now that's right i'm being. I'm being picky. On one of the biggest breakouts of the year with his six homers his to ninety seven average both of which were completely unexpected. Because he's only six ten on the basis that's right. That's what i'm complaining. Yeah yeah. I mean i feel like he is going to show up in his Trench coat and take care of this for me. Omar style old man here farmer and out. I'm i'm i'm hustling i. I gotta get out of there. We have him on the pond and ask him if he can whistle. We should have on the just because he's so good at baseball. All right. moving. On wilson ramones is what i put on the sheet. But wilson rama's is back to the i l. and man what started as such a promising season. I remember being so bombed to because he was one of my primary targets it was. It was the wilson's wilson ramos than omar narvaez. Were like my big primary catching targets. And i wasn't able to get wilson rama's or narvaez at an and the nbc maine. And i was bummed because you know it's the main event it's my primary team. I want that says you know what i'll go with a recommendation that One of my trusted best friends has had and all roster buster posey. So i gotta say how win the main event. I think i think you'll shred of it because it was based on your recco and your your bet of a rebirth. That i said you know what i'll go for posey here and i went. I went young in all they went. Posey and kirk and obviously kirk got hurt but he was. He was doing his thing before he got hurt. But anyway ramos now after that very fast start with six homers has fallen on hard times both at the dish and now off the field because he can't stay healthy he said the injured list and he's down to six thirty p. s. I think rama's one of the fastest stars of the season is now a cut at catcher. You can't hold a third catcher. That has a sub six fifty l. p. s. right not gonna drop them. I'm in that job. Yeah he on one of my main event teams. I was really stoked headstart. And now he's going to be dropped here the next fabric up so i'll have to go and see who's available on the waiver wire but it'll be nobody good promise you that already but let me ask you. If his replacement has any interest to you eric. Hoss a twenty eight year. Old journeyman off to a little bit of a little bit of a fast started. I doubt there's a whole lot to it to sixty three to eighty two four seventy four. That's second number being. Bp and being eighty two is pretty ugly but he doesn't one oh nine. Oh ps plus again. I think it's just a fast start more than anything else. But you're not gonna have many options in fifteen teamer. Would you go for somebody like haas. Who's that seventy percent roster rate and has the playing time or going for catcher. Do you go. Maybe for somebody who plays less but has better performance like an austin barnes who has been clear backup but pretty decent when he plays like victor care teeny. Who's now a full. Backup with with austin nola back. How do you play that in this case in a team or two catcher league when the replacements are going to be pretty crummy it depends on what your team's doing. So go look at your. I mean we're starting to see the standings Begin to stabilize a little bit. They'll still be quite a bit of movement. But there's definitely you're starting to see at least where you're behind if your average if i'm putting a batting average i'm not going to rostering costs. I'll i'll go with a guy like barnes but if my batting average is good and i need some pop. He's got a lot of pot. You go look at his scouting report From eric over on van graphs seventy grade raw power. Oh and i mean you look at of the non minor league numbers that he's put together twenty home runs four hundred plate appearances in aaa in two thousand nineteen three twenty homer seasons. Yeah so i mean he. The pop is legit okay. The batting average is not going to be he. He may hit like to twenty or even worse than that. But that being said like you know for a power getting catcher a seventy seven percent zone. Contact percentage is pretty good. We know what else i like to is. His off days are spent in the field at least recently. He has three outfield appearances. Twenty five innings out there. So when jake rogers who is probably the better defensive player when he gets back there hoskins still be playing. You know you know. I like nothing more than a non catching catcher. Which is why. The whole i k f thing. I was a fraud for hating him in the first place. Because you know that's one of my favorite things. And then you brought up the ike af thing on on in this league. And i was like no i don't like him and so i decided to play into the mean even though i love. Non catching catchers so. Yeah off has a little extra appeal there. I think it's a great call exactly the way you laid it out. Let your team kind of dictate where you're at and then that power. I did not realize that from us. and yeah i think he actually becomes pretty interesting replacement for those teams that aren't industrial need of batting average. Because i agree with you. He is going to It's going to be low. It's going to be low for sure so all right. That's wilson ramos man. This one bums me out. Harrison banners is gonna hit the i l. again. I wrote this. But i'm just going to be when i wrote is an out jonah's ribs technical term. I got i got medical. I'm sorry i got medical. I wasn't going to go with all the medical jargon but yeah out janas ribs devastating. He'd actually been off to a pretty nice start with some power now. How believable was that power. I don't know. And i just realized how small sample was that that a bad week where he's literally been to for twenty three has completely erased that strong beginning. He went from an eight ninety one. Ps two a seven twelve. I mean that's just the vagaries of a small sample though but yeah he had had four homers three steals in his first twenty two games actually in his first seventeen games. But then you know tacked on the games here. Baiters cut pretty easily. I think in most formats right now because his numbers aren't very good but when he comes back. Do you have any interest in this little power surge or was it just that a little a little a little blip are i don't necessarily think it's a little blip But i do think that he. I mean he's not a power bat like he's not a guy who's gonna crush the ball on but i'll take double digits right. Yeah i mean. I think he could be a fifteen fifteen guy in a full season. Okay in that. I mean because the cardinals are so beat up in the outfield right now. he's gonna play once he's back and i don't bite. His defense is extraordinary to now. Mike she'll hopeful that he won't be out much longer than ten days. That doesn't necessarily mean anything. Were you know. I'm hopeful that byron buxton comes back tomorrow doesn't mean he's no that's that's not happening. Did you hear that byron. Buxton is having a problem in his Recovery because he is unable to decelerate that is that is what is holding. Up is rehab right now. Is that Lee injury bats yet. He can't slow down which problem. I've had my entire life. Same way too quick but just in your bedroom habits should not be discussed here. Oh i thought that's what this was for. Yeah no no no. That's a different episode. That's that's for the patriotair. Sorry yes yes. That's the sixty nine dollars here. Exactly a baiter shown will power there. I agree with you that it's not just a complete blip twenty five guy either. I do think high teens. And then if they turn them lose i the he could feasibly be like a fifteen twenty five guy but they'd have to give them kind of that green light on the basis a little bit more which we haven't necessarily seen and to his point to his part he'd have to make sure that that will be is staying well above three hundred which he's got some three thirties on his ledger but he is at three zero one so far this year. So just keep an eye on baiter. He'll probably get cut. I send automatic. Not necessarily because if he does beat the years just the ten days then you don't necessarily need to cut him yet so don't rush out to cut him see where you're at If you're in one of those pinch situations sure. But i think there are some situations where you want to hold bainer because power speed guys especially in the outfield. It's been so difficult to replace outfielders this year. Take your time with him if you can't afford it don't insta cut. Baiter gestures sprained an ankle. And i'll tell you what. I don't have jazz chisholm in any league and yet i'm super bombed just because i love watching him play and i hope that there's nothing big here. He's going to avoid the i l. for now it's supposed to be day to day. He was the outfield this morning. Okay okay that's good so probably not going to have too much then with this with this injury i. He's so fun to watch man. The young players taken over the game have been so. This game is in such good hands from a player's standpoint. I just wish it was from a management from like. Mlb front office. Because that's the part that. I worry about but as far as young interesting talent. It's overflowing jazz. Just another one. And i know anzac gallon was popping off for the backs it was all like. Oh they fleece them. It's like hello. They gotta premium bat here. Can we give gestures. I'm an opportunity to do something and now people are seeing it for the win win deal that it was When when they made it was a strange one for one gestures and present gallon. And i think both teams are going to end up being happy last one here. This one's just for you okay. Because this is probably not massively impactful across the fantasy landscape. But i put him on specifically because i know how much you love bradley zimmer. And he's coming up. And i want to know if you have any of that hope left. I know that. Sometimes i can't quit a guy that even though i've i've definitely quit him in terms of drafting or anything the second he comes back around like this someone giral cotton and got called up. I know you know. And i would probably texts like our boy came back. So i'm wondering if you had any any of that. Little spark with bradley zimmer. And if you have any interest in In possibly rostering him or a least putting on your watchlist. I only yeah. I don't know that you see actually even gonna play. I mean who of they got. Outfield seems to be always there. they're open. i mean are they going to merle. Ramirez is starting in the outfield right. Now i'd been good. Yeah like him legitimately enablers been good to. I mean they could move naylor back to i Or i mean. They could d. h. zimmer 'cause they have friend mill or dhcp naylor and. Yeah and put zimmer out in the outfield improve their outfield defense. I mean we know his power we know he had a speed. We know is strikeouts. Like those are the like he just doesn't make enough contact Ton locked the power. Buddy walks to like. It's like i still think. There's talent here and i know he's he's twenty eight but he's still only i know me talking about it since two thousand. Yeah like you know. So i'm gonna. I'm gonna watch. Listen i'm legitimately in my nfc league just put the law is next to a name. Just put him on the watchlist. I'm not and i might write him up for my actual watchlist piece here this week or next because you know power speed i'm gonna keep an eye. Let's see how many starts he gets between now and sunday coming up. He was a defensive stud so that could also help. I don't know how much the injuries have robbed him of his defense. You don't hold your defense forever. In fact it ages down even for the best of them but then you throw in just a bevy of and it may have may have heard him there. But i do think there's opportunity. He had had a homer and four steals in six tenths. I liked the six tries on the basis in eighteen games. Now from just a raw fantasy stolen base standpoint but when you're running six times in eighteen games tells me that you're feeling pretty good so i'll tell you why still striking out too much thirty five percent in triple a but your boy bradley zimmer might end up playing himself into some viability. I think it would probably max at fifteen teamers but once power speed is in the mix you never know so. Just put them. I just put it on the watch list. That's all i'm saying. That was a little treat for you with bradley. are there other. Is there a pair of brothers in major league baseball. That have been more disappointing them. What more can we say. More unlike disappointing puts it on them a little more than i think it should cause it's really bill yet. It has been their home. But they've been devastatingly. Unlucky cows zimmer. If you guys don't know is indeed. Brad's brother and You know has dealt with just as many if not more health issues in fact Kyle's go back to his college days. Whereas i'm not sure if bradley was necessarily heard so much I believe they both went to peraza. Just take just man marquez. Dietsch just went yard young new york. Yup yup means an awful but it was. It was pretty bad it was. It was pretty hannibal there. He dropped the bad head on it. As as the phrase goes it was definitely one where you just get the bad out there in time and it can do a lot of He he supplied a lot of it. marquez did by putting it in that zone losing peraza no. I know i'm with you but by the way that's perfect that he did that he of all people did that because peraza might be creeping on the fantasy radar because again power speed. He's not a huge power guy but he can mix in a few homers with his speed in that alone can draw some interest. Now i'm not saying go pick up jose peraza because he hasn't hit well already not no dang it. You did in your ten team. My first waiver priority. I cut bucks good. Hang on any longer. Yeah we're many years removed from that one good year from peraza where he had fourteen homers in twenty three steals with the two eighty eight average. But then when you can do both it can bring into the fantasy. Mix quite consistent walk rate ever. He has had four straight seasons of a four point two percent walker it. He he finds out every time he walks. Chris davis not walking. The the first base coach tells them. Okay that's your at three point. Eight percent okay. I gotta draw one more walk in my next explained appearances and i'll perfectly at four point two and then i'm not walking ever again until eighty plate appearances from now. Yeah he doesn't like walking much all right. That's gonna wrap it up on the news now back into the pitching rankings. Where you're the higher guy and we're not. We didn't even put him at the top just for like a meeting. This is literally of course who your higher on by the most points in is indeed cal gibson now. You mentioned that he'd have to change that. The discrepancy the thirty six point discrepancy. That we have right now will shrink because he got hurt and So you're gonna lower him a bit but he's been twenty six on the rise ballplayer raider. The injury does undercut a lot of this discussion right now. But i'll let you. I'll let you go off on on games in and how well. He's been pitching prior to the groin. Strain and what you expect. When he comes back from said go groin strain. Go ahead of us about your guy. He's been super super impressive And again a ton of ground balls But you know in the strikeouts aren't are anything to write home about about. But he's sacrificing a little bit that strike out of side to make sure the ball stays on the ground doesn't leave the park. I think it helps a lot that he is one pitching with this deadened ball but also pitching at home in taxes And i mean those numbers that you know you were seeing are even better if you take out that i start of the year because he remember. That's he got destroyed by the orioles on opening day. How many people cut him there. Tell a lot like a ton if he can't handle baltimore. I don't want this frigging. Justin dude made me take this circuits beat by baltimore. I'm cutting. what's the are a if you opt that. Start off one point five. Oh no to tweet us if you cut him. Because i kind of i kind of in a league. I wouldn't blame casey. It wasn't yeah. Same diff- same day like you're cutting after that you're thinking this guy was a late round pick. He's a bomb one fifty era in sixty innings since then you cut him to mentally. I don't. I don't blame you like you know i've picked up since you've got you've got no only goodness 'cause he's only allowed and Zero one zero one one three one two one. Those are his earned runs in the game with with a bevy of You know quality opponents. Toronto's in their tampa bay is in there. You'll light twice boston. Houston a pair of times. You're giants are no pushover. The twins are not the full strength. You know they're not the strongest twins but they're still not easy to go eight innings against the way he did so gibson was taking on all comers and dominating so what do we do here. What this groin injury that we try to wait this out. Because he's been so good. I think you have to try. I mean i would rather hold onto him than probably police at this point. I was going to say either of the two guys. I guess if you least that matt kluber too because you already said in. i mean. They've already said that doesn't sound like a serious injury that correct. Hopefully he'll be back after a minimum stay He's going super deep into games. You know he's since that start at the beginning of the season he's gone at least six innings in every single one of his starts in the throw in some seven inning starts eight innings starts. He is only walked More than two guys once. Since that i start at fantastic. And he only has two games in which he's given up a home run. Yeah kyle gibson has been excellent and you know you mentioned this. A is not going to jump off the page but we go back to what we talked about with police sack and guys of that vein where they can volume their way to it and so that their raw total is a lot more capable than you would think. And so you know. Don't always judge by rate take a look at at ross strikeouts and i bet he checks out pretty decently relative to To that rate he has forty eight strikeouts and that puts him that puts him around Always got more than louise castio. He's around Garrett richards nathan evolved the Anthony desclafani some. You know which is right. Around where i am right. I've got right in front of richards and disco fani. He he probably should move down. But it's only gonna be a few spots. So like i've got a matching even with the injury It's not gonna be that bad. And i think what do i have ninety five or eighty five. Where where where. Kyle come here. Oh yeah ninety nine five stew. Low even with the injury. i'm going to I'm going to bump him here. So i think i think seventy i think seventy one. I'm actually just gonna leave him at fifty nine. I frankly. I don't blame you. Because like i said all the reports say that this injury is not going to be too bad so right it out. That's your boy. I don't blame you and if we get another week or two in and heads looking worse or there's been a setback. You can adjust their if he's not the same when he comes back. Like i mean this is also that the beauty of a guy like kyle gibson. Is you know if things start to turn for the worse you go all right. Well thanks for all the work for the team. Go back to landscaping. Yeah exactly and that's the thing. Don't push it too far to where you wind up right back at square one and you ended up with a five. Era from him. Because you you eight. Four bad starts like nick. Pollock at the vargas rule because of that year that jason vargas had like the entire first half where he was. Just excellent to where you have to give it. You don't at the first thing they call it a vargas rule plus if you don't cut him after the first bad start. But if he has to duds i think you move on from count gaps. And when he comes back so you don't don't hold forever. And i'm gonna go down with the ship and wait till he has six. Era and then whatever. No make sure you're you're hanging on but be smart about it so yeah hold on here. See what happens cow gibson when he comes back. I wonder if he's gonna cut my grass though because it's been raining a lot here. No closed up shop. Remember i know but can he come out of retirement for one. Keshar is buried in the grass. Right now we really is tougher. Big beside business. You know what he needs to be good at that but yeah. It's been raining so much. I haven't had time to cut it in shara. There will look at me like hey you ever gonna cut this idiot. I'm not very tall. I don't appreciate this. And i say you know what i'm busy pointing moby. The show. matthew. Boyd is next. I consider myself a bit of a boy boy but maybe not enough. I got him sixty seven him forty four. he's sixty i on the player reiter. So i'm curious. Why game so high. Because he's doing all the things he needs to do to stay successful. What i'm really curious about. Because that's vague question is do you see the strikeouts coming back because that would make your Your ranking a lot more palatable because you know he's been pitching well like this already but he still hasn't still has only been sixty i but that's because the ratios of an excellent strike rate hasn't quite been there. Do you foresee him working. These strikeouts back as he kind of figures. Everything out. Because i think he's traded the strike outs for the homers which i like because the. Ira has been good. Can he get the strike outs back in without getting the homers and you think it's a appear trade off year. He started to do that the last few out. So i mean it's not like a huge jump or anything but he's he's been over strike at an inning over his last three starts now though the results starts haven't been quite as good. He's walked a few to home but only one home. And that's the big thing. So i think he will start to incorporate. Start to get a few more strikeouts You know he still gets a lot of swings outside of this zone. I just i love the fact that he's not giving up home runs. I think that is in part due to the ball. Like i think he has. I think he's one of their take beneficiaries of the ball. I mean we're talking about a guy who What last year gave up fifteen home runs. And he's only given up two so far this year and we're talking about almost the exact amount of innings. Yeah no he's been fit boys been fantastic and there's a clear change when you watch him if you ever watched him before and this year compared to this year you can definitely see it and frankly i don't need all the strike outs. Back of this performance is going to stick not only from a fantasy standpoint but just as the tigers fan. 'cause i've been watching him pitching you know they put out a pretty decent guy there on on most days kind of is surprising that they were so bad there for a while it was. They're hitting that was just decimating. Because they got boyd mayes Turnbull that you can kind of rely on. Uranium has been fine for like four five type and then scuba starting to turn it around so if school turns it all the way around they got they got a capable major leaguer each of the five days in their rotation and If the offense can do anything than their you know a non awful team and they started to start to put some things together. I don't i don't really want them to like surge in the middle of the pack of the league. I still want one more. Good pick for the tigers but when they were you know i don't know six thirty or whenever the hell they started. It wasn't that they were so bad. And i felt like i couldn't get out there and get five strikeouts against them. That was not fun. I was like okay. I didn't have expectations for this team. I thought better than nine. And twenty four which they legitimately actually were. They have turned it around since they're now eighteen and thirty but they're in another four game losing streak so anyway boyd. I'm with you for the most part here. i'm. I'm a little bit lower than you. But i also feel like we have a fundamental difference in how we view them. You're just more gung ho on him. Getting a strike outs back and really really liking him. But i think sixty six isn't fair ranking where i have to so we like matthew boyd. Here we are. We are indeed boy. Boys ryan yarborough at forty seven doesn't matter where i haven't yemen top fifty. I need to talk about that. Because i just don't know that he can be top fifty guy he has been one hundred and ninth so far this so talk to me. Yeah i probably need to drop him down a little bit. I think he's reliably consistent for what he is. I just don't think it's quite as good as you have him. But for the record. I haven't seventy so again i don't hate him. I still have higher than he's been on the player rainer but there's shown this during her start. The other day. I watched the toronto star there showing his record They were focused win loss. Which obviously i don't care about so much but they also included his ratios but they were showing him with the opener and without and it's like just give them the open. Yeah and i mean this is something know away from that. Dude is some jason said about two or three weeks ago. It's like he's just a different pitcher when he's got an opener and they just going to be. Obviously it makes your wins better right. We know that i'm concerned about his performance was markedly better. Yeah especially on. Hard-throwing righty opening up forum in. So it's perfect and just because they're not starting patino and like you know i wonder if you bros. Ever like can you give me that back. I i like that. L. patina is on the right now but they got hard-throwing righties for days. They can find somebody hell you know. Well he's actually been treated more like full going because they mcclanahan but now they're actually giving him some real some real starts. He goes five innings. Four or five innings pretty regularly so they. I think they got to get back to that. I just think topic these little too high. My seventy might be a little too high given that As twenty seven right now and he doesn't strike enough guys. I mean he is he. If you look over the last month he has been better. That being said he's given up three home runs in each of the last two starts which is but still but he hasn't been walking guys. He's got four walks over his last four starts say get back down to kind of be in the guy you we is. Who volumes is way you know to some goodness because he doesn't walk anybody that being said yet. This is this ranks to high on. I'm looking at it right now. And i'm gonna drop him down into the sixties. Okay then we're going to be pretty much in lockstep at that point adam semina- i'm i'm dropping him to sixty four had. I had to say child. i can't help it All right yeah. So i i think i think we've found some common ground there with yarborough. Please please. just give him his opener back. he wants it. We want it not just from fantasy standpoint but You know get him those dubs so he gets paid in arbitration to. That's probably why now you know what you collecting too many wins and we know arbitration may be the rhesus. Yeah they're like you know we can't have you with franken eleven in to record because you can use that against us because arbitration saddam But yeah we'll see how it goes with. The are bro very useful pitcher for sure. Just make sure your case or an order because if you have a couple other locate guys he becomes difficult to roster with them. Because then you're just really falling behind all right garrett richards time i kinda got to him a little bit there when we were talking about the to start coming up but jim eighty are yelm sixty eight so we have to twenty point split but we've been garrett richards fans since his high school days when we've been assessed with for a while so you know i'm not out on him him. We just happen atmos split here because you're a bit more aggressive with your ranking but where where do we stand right now with with garrett richards in what he's doing because i don't even think sixties like agree gis but we do have a twenty points split it might just be golob. I think it is lobby. So let's talk about him more as how we feel about him as opposed to our. Our ranking split. Then what are you seeing. The whip is still high. Can he get that down. It has been the walks. That's driving it up right now. Mostly yeah i think the whip might be what it is Yeah i mean the the his command has been a little shaky over the last control command shaky over the last two starts And that's kind of helped drive it up a little bit. When he went his mechanics are clean and his command is on point. He is one of those guys that can just dominate any team in baseball. And we've seen that this season We've seen him go out there and you know and just be electric and we've also see him not able to find the zone and so it's i. I think the sum total of things as long as he stays healthy will be a kind of right where it is which you know is a three eighty. Three your a Just kind of south of a strikeout inning in like a one thirty something went Value for a guy. Who has you put up a decent volume on a good team. That's going to support him with ron. That part helps too so even if it takes a little bit even if the The the whip stays high. And there's a little problem there. You feel like you can still snake. Some ws even with a little bit of a compromise ratio set there right from garrett richards because that offense is so freaking good yes it is and i mean he's he's gone at least five innings in every start except for two and that's opening day start where he got shelled of that's got shelf versus baltimore. I knew someone got. Shall i today. At the beginning of the season that i stream and then he had a bad start versus toronto. But i mean that's against toronto one of the best offenses in baseball so You kind of understand that. I i love garrett's i'm never gonna quit them like it's that it is because we don't have to pay a lot either right like where we're not alone. But it's not a giant pool that is obsessed with garrett richards the way it was like when he was with the angels you know in spite of missing a ton of time due to injury. He's been pitching in the league. This is crazy in pitching since thousand eleven. Oh man rush yeah And his career. Era is three sixty four Career whip one twenty seven. That is who he is. Yeah i think that. I think that definitely We know we know who get richards. So you know another one of these guys like gibson though like if he starts to really blow up you just move on yet. You don't get cute like you don't have to and we know that the whips already there. It's scary so you know what you're getting into and just just be smart about it. We're not We're not advocating like go down with the ship on garrett richards But you know he's been useful right now and you rotation not. Everyone can be excellent right. We know that for sure but guys can do different. Things look at richards as like A little bit of a volume guy which is weird. Because he's gets hurt so often but now that he's pitching there'll trusting him in a wins guy and i know it's hard to rely on guys for wins but he's got four already. Which is pretty decent. And you know he's going to be in the mix with With that boston team. Because they're bearing all right. Luis garcia you have eighty nine eighty nine versus year. Seventy this another glob situation and my only concern. Not only i guess there's some skills concern. I want what he's doing skills wise. I'm i'm really interested. In fact i'll point out that he is thirty first on the player raider. So we're both saying like when we're both not buying just purely into his results. I'm nervous about him. Having a spot when owner easy and fromberg back and the latter is back tomorrow from rebel dez will debut for the season on friday odor is supposed to debut on saturday impact. That's confirmed and they're coming back friday saturday. What happens to garcia then. Await the thirty cents. They're sending down christian or they're putting cristina viera the volta. No no they don't have to mccullers just got hurt but they already said they are but they don't have to. I don't wanna do a bit right now. They don't have to mccullers. Just went on the with right shoulder so so they said that even before that though they were gonna put hobby air in the bullpen. They said after they put mccullers on the aisle. They're moving off your into the bullpen. They said that after was up. Because you're keen. He's coming back to their still enough room. Those they'll be arcadi grinky. No there's not garcia order. Easy dez hobby are all. Wow okay. they they've got to put someone in garcia's to write the mccullers thing does not cover it and obviously now this'll be not itself fourteen one. Oh three so you say you say he doesn't work itself out. I know but like in the short term. That kinda sucks for hobby airman. Yeah what are you gonna do. They should just moved to a six man is what they should do. But you can't do that to grinky. Yeah you can't do that to establish like that. like finagle. it to where he doesn't somehow fit the. I don't know how you would do that. But that becomes your right in a work itself out in a heartbeat. And if i had. If i had to guess away it's not great and i hope it's wrong because i really you know i've been obsessed with him for a while but i just imagined a raise these going to either get hurt again or not be that good. That's my conservative. Yeah yeah i mean th it'll work itself out one way or another usually via another envy exactly. i mean. they've got three guys returning from injury. At the same time one of them they will not continue to be healthy so nice piece to putting in your bullpen man. How the air. Forty eight thirds with a three fourteen one. Oh three whip. He's been better than garcia astros. Teams is going to be super dangerous. Dude i thought they were super slept on. I wish i could have gotten like futures bed in. Because i thought that they weren't getting any in any attention the only thing that they're really missing is i still don't love their bullpen. But you can fix that. Nca well yeah exactly. They just put them premium piece in there. Do they still need a left either. That's the thing is a righty going in there. The only left they have is somebody named brooks rally in kent emmanuel and emmanuel just got hurt. Oh they go. He was the only one who is doing well. Rarely has a six fifty two so anyway back to garcia. Since he's staying in then. I think maybe both of us need to move him up. Yeah i was. I was interested to have this conversation because i mean he was my streaming last night against fire streaming by the way. Yeah yeah. I mean he. He gave up an unearned run because he committed on an error. I've never understood how that works. By the way that seems selfish that you can create your own ears. And they don't cost you runs but what could have been disastrous for. Because he committed so it was just like a slow roller to his left hand side and it went right under his glove and And then he ended up loading the bases in only gone on scored He hit so. I mean he. He could have been disastrous but then he came back had his. Composure looked great. The rest of the outing. Getting strikeouts sees You know not putting two men on too many men on base You know induces a fair amount of soft and medium. Contact like he is been really really good I mean the biggest concern. I think with him coming into the season was what is command. Gonna be like is easy going to walk to many guys on. And he's answered that. I think he's shown like he he'll walk a few guys here and there but sometimes it's You know it's purposeful is trying not to give in and he's getting a ton of strikeouts ya. I think i'm too low on him. Which means you are definitely too low on him. Yeah because i'm i made m nineteen spots lower and i will tell you. My ranking was fully based on the fact that i thought he was toast in the rotation. Because guys we're going to start to come back so knowing that that is inherently wrong at this point. I'm moving away way up. I think i'm gonna move him to fifty five. I'm gonna i'm gonna swap him in police act. I'm gonna move police down to m m to fifty tango. i like it. so we're both in garcia. That's my only concern. All year has been kenny. Stay in this is a big endorsement. That he's in over havi air when when they have six men at the ready and of course it only be further complicated mccullers when he comes back. Assuming something does not happen in the interim which you and i believe that it almost certainly will so. That's luiz garcia next up. Is chris panic now this one. I don't think there's going to be forty two versus my sixty. I think there starts to be a little delineation. There between your dies need beyond that you want to move him down. I probably should well. Let's talk about a bit though because You know again and sixty which you still. You know starter. In every format teamers figure has six six guys. At least you're austrian. A good seventy seventy five starters for sure even with reserves. He's been pitching better but they were really limiting his innings. Sixth inning outing. Yesterday was his first time hitting six innings. He added six innings. The outing before oh eight. He's a to shrink. sixteen outings. Be ref is not updated. Because all i did was looking at his most recent. Start and as six innings. But that's the may twenty first outing they do not have yesterday's games it won't it's already twelve thirty. Something must have happened. Okay yeah so back to back sixth inning. Outings is paddock starting to come around yes and He is pitching more to contact He's he's changed a little bit of the The sequencing and in that is helping helping him not give up so much hard contact. Can you have sequencing when you'll have to pitch. Sorry no no he. I'm pretty sure he's been throwing the more now. I know i just. I want to take a jab. I'm just i'm rude. How many pitches do i have zero. Okay so who am i to talk. Nah i mean. I saw you in your backyard. Thank you i will. That was fun. I you know what. I've been hurt since then. I know joe the manager let you go too deep into that out way too deeply. Are you a college coach. Because you're not you're not pulling me out. I kept looking over to the dugout and no back in the bullpen. Nobody was warming up. Charlotte was not warming up. It was bad but yeah to your point. He's trying to bring that curb. All into the mix to go with the fastball. Change because that's been the thing. He's only a to pitch guide. And so you know the the the if one of them's not working you're deep trouble. But he survived in milwaukee and i say survive only because six as one run was obviously very good but it was only two strikeouts. There's a lot of contact there that they were turning into outs for him. But he's gotten a sixth inning. One outing against seattle outing before that for six strikeouts but prior to that he hadn't gone six with mixed results. So i just i kind of keep paddock in this fifty. Five to seventy five range. And i'm going to need to see like legitimate development of a third pitch bef- oranges the two pitches popping off the way. They did his rookie year before. I'm going to move him but to your point. Eleven eight fourteen ten and fifteen percent usage on the curve through his last five games legit pitch at that point. You're using it around. We've been over ten percent and that's what we've been waiting for without. He needed to develop a third pitch. The didn't need to be a devastating third pitch. It just needed to something he could throw. You know some ten to fifteen percent of the time. Exactly you got you gotta have. They gotta be worried about something. Yes and that's the problem that they haven't been thus far is they're just like well okay. It's going to be fastball. Moved him down to fifty. One is about the part. I think that's the right spot. Because i don't want to overreact to the last few outings either because again they were against milwaukee and the mariners and milwaukee has not been a an offense. You're super afraid of and seattle has been no hit more times than anyone ever. They've no here like seven times just this year this week. It's that a lot of doubleheaders. They're all no headers and they decided to count them. They think didn't count. that's why they aren't showing up in the snatch. Yeah wainwright's ira bumgarner. You'd better not count those ones. If you're not gonna count mine. But yeah that i agree with you. Let's not freak out over the two six ending outings against mediocre teams. But at least he's starting to go six using that curve. I think we're more in lockstep here now that you moved them down a little bit. Let's move on to our next guy. And that will be dylan bundy now. We've got a bigger split. Because i moved him down further. You met thirty six. I'm nervous and i moved him. Debt word i move on down to. It's it's quite a bit now Down fifty eight so just five more spots from where i had him and dylan bundy last year really liked what he was doing. Stayed bought in this year and for a while. It was like okay. The er ages doesn't match the underlying skills and we'll have some aggression that was before he started allowing homers again to in each of his last two outings. He got pummeled by the dodgers which you can forgive but then he tacked on two more beatings after that and against the red sox to yeah the quality teams. But we've gone from a forty are a good underlying numbers to a six fifty era with slightly less quality numbers. Yeah i probably need to drop him. And this is weird. It's weird for me to try to defend dylan bundy. I've been the anti dylan buddy guy. That's what i'm saying. We we've changed course here. Yeah yeah. I need to drop them. He definitely shouldn't be thirty six he should. He should drop down into that fifty ish range. I'm gonna put him questions. Do i put them in front of paddock or behind paddock. Now ooh yeah i got. I got him actually just in front like three spots in front of panicked air. So i i think i'm gonna put right in front and out. He becomes fifty eight fifty nine. Actually bundy panic in that order with matt right after them. Another guy who is frustrating heck lament. Yeah who you haven't sixty four right right by them as well you know i just. I just don't trust like that's that now. That's the biggest issue not to make an combo about him. But yeah i just. I don't trust the health at all. I'm i move i moved. I moved dylan bundy right in front of paddock I mean i wonder if there's something going on within healthwise because that's always the the issue with bundy. Exactly i'm gonna check out. What his game log losses have been and see and see if something happened. You know 'cause yeah it's the dodgers but if something if his view that he started off the season at ninety two and ninety two nine in his first two starts his last two starts ninety point nine nine point five. Aaron is and we talked to. I didn't bring this up with With garrett richards but you can look. He has one of those clear issues to where when he's over ninety four ninety four and above It's going well and when he's not it's a clear issue And what did you say. The cutoff was for bundy. With what what is below before it was at ninety first to start starts the ninety two flat in the ninety two nine and now it's down to ninety point nine and ninety point five last two starts. That's concerning and know that's that's a tick to a tick and a half in a lot of times. We we hear that will come on. That can't be that those are the margins that they're working on in major league baseball to where one mile an hour can be that devastating and completely change you. And so that is that is nerve wracking and we know his health record for bundy throughout his career. Be careful here so he was dropped in one of my main event leagues. I don't know that you should go crazy. And i was going to go crazy but now this conversation has talked me out of that. I think that's the right way to approach in. Just be a little cautious about it with regards to bundy here and just be careful folks. If you've seen him pop up on your waiver wires not necessarily somebody that you need to jump in head first on somebody that you do need to jump in adverse on unless you're in my main event and let me have him for four dollars is andrew heaney now you've fortieth. I'm fifty four again. i think. Top top forty versus fifty four. Start to see a little bit of delineation there where it's not just glob We know how much you like him but talk to us about what he's been doing this year. And if you think it can really hold the top forty. Because he's been one eleven on the player rainer so you're you're expecting some a surge in performance with this ranking in fact i am to even at fifty four. So let's let's talk through the heaney situation here and what. We're expecting the rest of the way from him. Yeah it's really just too bad stores in which he gave up three home runs in those bedsores. Now you eight one of those for sure because one of them was was at seattle. Oh yeah so you were. You were thinking okay. He's been really really good since that. Well it's all right. It's been three bad starts because i not. I wasn't including opening day. Or or as i started the year where he got shellacked versus the the white sox still with all their pieces. Before they got hurt. You could feasibly avoided that though. Yeah you likely did. Avoid it in in especially in your ten in twelve team leagues yet. But yeah i mean it. It's it's a little bit of the same old andrew haney where its own when he is locating he is not available and when he isn't he's variable i still love talent and the loss and he's been there and he's actually You know he shown good control and command most of the season. It's just been those few outings where he's hasn't so i look. I probably should drop damn it. We're still very much in that level though. I'm glad you brought it up where game logging is still very important. I think it's important all year personally to kind of the makeup of somebody's era. But we're still in that situation where to start. One bad start can actually impact you quite a bit but these two or three out of your other. He's been down to now. He's been rough in his last three. Yeah where where did the velocity cut off. Because the star before that on may six was brilliant against the rays without. That's the weird part. It's like he was ninety one seven in in in that star and then the next art where he got lit a ninety. Eight okay And then he's back down to ninety winds five ninety one six. I mean there's been a lot of various he start of the year at ninety three and that's when he got pummeled. Maybe i don't know maybe needs its own. Donald overthrowing by. I don't know maybe it's it's a simple as that but i understand you know obviously a bit of a mean you love him. He's definitely one of your guys but you still looking at the the The strikeout rate being here at hang on do the percentage because on baseball reference twenty nine percent and that's fantastic and then the walk rain is is certainly not bad at eight percent and you look at those core skills. It's hard not to like him but it is. The home runs always with heaney. And that's my concern is that those aren't going now. He does have to three homer outings including that one against seattle that he talked about that. You definitely eight I think i need to lower him to even at fifty four. Just because it's i don't see any way that he's going to stop giving up homers unless he goes full matthew boyd on us and just Finds a way to cut into them but then it would probably come at the cost of some strikeouts. Which i think i would take that trade off. Though for a little bit of his strikeout rate to cut the home runs. That could that could be nice this this. This is a tale of someone who is not willing to give him correct. He's he's trying to end the inning. As opposed to taking give them guy the freebasing going after the next guy and maybe like a. Hey don't don't throw crappy pitch here throw throw your pitch swings attic. Great if not get them back. The next batter the done. Now i put him down to forty seven guy Which feels more right. I went even lower than that. I know you're going to be upset with ranking. are you ready. Are you emotionally prepared from where. I ranked him can't even find. That's what seventy seven. Okay god of sorry. These home runs are a problem. One point eight. Last year's one point two was. I got an aggressive improvement for him. Yeah i'm just like. I don't think you can put them in your top fifty. I'm just going to be blunt with you. He has never had a sub for. I think they can and i think i did not never. He had one in twenty fifteen. So super reason. Mean you can and you did but but should you is the question. Yeah and i think the answer to that is no. I know by the way that you still rank zach. Gallon got to take him out. I was just as a quick detour. Where yet on him like are you cutting him in any leagues yet. I mean. I know we're trying to do your because there's no info but what. What is the push point there. Where you're like frick. I need to just cut him. I think if you've got other injuries that are you with guys that you feel more comfortable going to be back sooner I mean he's playing catch right now so that a sign that things are starting to progress a little bit but you know the it could in an update yesterday. Nearing flat ground tossing so he definitely needs to drop. And i've actually been looking this entire episode on like okay. Awareness need to drop to. He probably needs to drop towards the where. I put zet police ac in him. Because there's so much uncertainty. I put him on my list now with without a rank. 'cause i i got a park some of these guys here that are going to eventually get ranked when they're healthy like you have because you didn't you didn't put a number next everyone but you still have names listed and i like that so i'm going to. I'm going to add some names there. But you know you don't especially with gallon in particular. It's difficult because remember when he got hurt. There was a big panic and his price plummeted. Which you actually took advantage of. And then he comes back and dominates. And i think people aren't gonna be afraid that that's going to happen to them if they cut him so i think that his is season. Trajectory is making gallon more difficult to cut because no one wants to be the the do that cut him and then somebody else comes in and he gets picked up but i mean we gotta thinks that he's likely not going to pitch until close to the all star break and i'm thinking and if that's the case why when they just let them wait until after the all star break i the diamondbacks trophyless there. So in. so why would they. They're not going to rush this like they shouldn't rush this. I mean in spite of what they did with carson kelly. Yeah i mean. I'm still shook on that but again we we also don't have info two. We hear fracture. We automatically assume it's devas like you could be. You can have an injury of a fracture on your body right now. That like hurts you but does not impair you in any way like i. M most is fractured yet. But i'm just saying like there are times you know we read. We read an injury and we assume it's much worse than it is. I don't know. But i am still worrying about that carson kelly thing but yeah with that gallon again. It's kind of a familiar. Refrain where you're desperately trying not to cut him. But i think you're going to get into a situation pretty soon where it's just going to be too difficult not to not to move on. So can we talk just real quick about always z. Nfl west yes. It has the three best teams in baseball and two of the worst. It's it's the complete habits have nots wild. I mean unprincely sure elise coming into today. I believe like they had the three best records in baseball. And they still do in well The raise would mix in there. But your point your point holds just fine. Yeah like this is such a weird division. I don't know that ever seen something like this nine. Probably have with the al east at some point but with three teams and we used to be boston and in the yankees were great than the other three were trash in my head. I was thinking. Oh well what about one of those nineties seasons with the orioles still being good but then raise weren't there so what about the raise when they were good though and then he's red sox maybe there is a season there I think that's probably the best chance to find. A a a division like win percentage the best three teams in baseball or the padres dodgers and giants. And then they've got the ads rockies and the rockies and diamondbacks which i believe. I'm looking at this correctly. Or the two worst teams in baseball by win percentage. I got imagine the orioles. Gotta be a little north. Yeah but your point stands. Three absolute halves in to complete have nots and the big surprise of course is that the giants are in the mix. And i think there's some viable. I think i will say this as it stands right now. I believe this team more than i did. The one was nineteen when were competing too much to really trade anything. He still moved a few bullpen pieces. But you couldn't really move bumgarner and everything the way we would've wanted. I probably should have but one a difficult thing to do to the fans though. I think you really do have to consider that. And that's one of those where it's like. This isn't a video game. You have to still consider real life and the fact that they were too close to just tear it down but this team actually has some legitimacy. This a veteran stunned lineup has been quite nice. And then the pitching the scrap heap pitching. Oh my god. They've been amazing so they're not gonna win this division because the padres dodgers will get healthy. And that's the thing last them and they'll outlast and but like they're legit contender for that first or second or that. Second wildcard spot. I i yeah. I think both wildcard teams could easily come last eight to san diego san francisco. Giants augurs wildcard giants. Dodgers be fun to guzman. Hopefully it'd be lining up nicely. Go with all these all these crusty vets that the giants have yeah. They've been playing really well so our last guy. Speaking of the giants easy transition didn't even plan it. Anthony fani is a is a big rankings. Split for us here. I'm seventy five in sixty one. This definitely feels gami. And i probably move. I reacted a little bit too much off of his last. You take out his last start. He's been amazed two or three year in fact even keeping an end. He's been forty. I on the or so. Have you taken it out. He probably was like seventeenth or something. Because it was a ten run outing into against the dodgers which hey you shouldn't have had that. Actually i no no when you got a guy with a two or three area through nine starts. You're kinda starting am against anybody. I'm not gonna crush anybody that the dodgers have been beat up team. It was start. He thought they were gonna roll out their buds lineups in. Max muncie just said. Go get it out of the ocean. Go kiss out of the ocean. Yeah no. I'm not gonna crush anybody that started this. If you did have the fortitude to be like no i got him as a streamer. I'm gonna stream and not starting here then. I respect that. Because i would have definitely started dusko funny if i had him and then you take that ten run beating. That only moved his era up to three fifty four though that tells you how brilliant he had been in his first nine starts with a two or three r a so. I'm actually move them up a few takes so we're not going to really have a discrepancy goes. I'm not moving him anywhere. He really so good. So let's talk about recipes in here so desk go find. He's been around for a while are boy. No kinda credit him as the dust off on a guy back in the day with cincinnati and he's had a few payoffs two thousand sixteen was good. Twenty nineteen was good. Home runs have always been his issue though to while they're no better place to go the san francisco to kennel fix that and it has been a clear help. He's down to one point zero after one nine one six one nine the three years before that and that's really helping his strikeouts back up from six seven two eight two. This year and his walks are back in check. They always been pretty good until last year. So that was actually more expected than anything else. But he's also suppressing hits. He's just been great across the board outside of that ugly start. What do we expect going forward. If i can grant you in assumption of health because i know that's our biggest concern but let's say he stays healthy. What do you see out. Dusko funding the rest of the way. Then i think he's all low to mid threes era guy with a pretty spectacular whip and a good amount of strikeouts and so he's got the best wing strike rate of his career. He's still getting you get swings outside of the song he's not giving up a ton of hard contact Yeah i mean everything is is long as he stays healthy. And that is the biggest concern for me with dusko funny You know you're gonna wanna watch the times where he's going to. Maybe a really bad ballpark. But he went to cincinnati digits. Find yeah i mean. Yeah so yeah. I mean i actually might be a little low on and i've got him at fifty nine. Yeah like i said. I'm i'm looking to move him up right now and i'm like well wear new. I go i. I know that the health is scary. But you know how we talk on here if the skills are in place. I'm going to take my shot on the health and not i'm not gonna rank. Somebody like preemptively expecting them to get hurt. So i'm not going to be like. Oh i got funding. Down here in the seventies i guess at the reason i did in the seventies was an overreaction to the last start not because i'm waiting for the shoe to drop on his health i'm gonna go ahead and put him fifty six right now. Yeah on. that's just ahead of a guy. We talked about dylan bundy. I'm gonna move him up to fifty. I'm gonna move them up beyond move minimum up right below bundy paddock perfect. So we are. We are giving doors for funding. If anyone uber panicked over that last starting cut him in your tens drives go. Get him. Because i am not freaking out over start. That's just getting. That's just an awful day against a great team and wear it and you move on and we're gonna move on. We're going to go ahead and end the episode here. Friday episode coming up though i will be talking to oh gut vlad settler later today and posting it tomorrow and then you have. Do you have a sunday episode on tap. We don't because of the. Oh yeah that's right. 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Effectively Wild Episode 1429: Catch Me if You Can

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Effectively Wild Episode 1429: Catch Me if You Can

"Okay so hello and welcome to episode fourteen twenty nine of affectively wild baseball podcast and fan graphs presented presented by our Patriot supporters of the ringer joined by say Miller espionage last time we talked a little bit about players turning in the thick of a pennant race and how teams handle that and the flip side of that the unfortunate flipside of that is players getting hurt in the thick uh of pennant race and we've had that happen to obviously the example this week Christian Yelich fractured kneecap done for the year and the the outpouring of disappointment has probably outstripped any similar outpouring. I can remember for a player who is missing eighteen games ames in September which if you think about it it could have been worse it could have happened earlier and it could have been even more costly I suppose but but because yellow pages at the center of so many storylines right now it feels like a large loss I wrote about it and you can make the case is that it won't actually change anything. There are ways in which may be the outcome of the season and the things that Christianity was involved in wouldn't actually change change like the brewers are sort of long shots at least if you look at the playoff odds even with Christian yelich their game back of the cubs in the wild card race as we we speak but because they're not quite as good a team they are not favored and one player even player is great as Yelich only makes so much much difference over the span of few weeks in theory at least and you could say that maybe he probably wouldn't have gotten to fifty thirty anyway. If he had stay healthy it would have been challenging though not impossible to get the six homers he needed and you could say that maybe bellinger was more deserving and more likely uh-huh. VP candidate anyway even if yellow chet been able to play the rest the schedule but you put all those things together and those were a lot of the reasons why we were excited about baseball for the rest of the regular season the brewers trying to chase the cubs and bellinger trying to chase history whether home homerun title or the fifty thirty race or back to back MVP awards so it's a big bummer and he's just generally one of the more compelling players in the sport right now so it is sad to him at a crucial time well. Okay Ben. Let Me let me give a couple of counter arguments about how it would have affected things or probably would have affected things or your underplaying how much it would have affected things his home run rate per game if you assumed he would have played the final eighteen games as well as all of the one game that he mostly missed because he does in the first inning would have put him at fifty point four home runs and so fifty thirty was actually right what he was on track for and while the brewers it is true are not favored by the playoff odds because the cubs are seen by these he's playoff odds as being higher quality team. They're still at twenty five percent even without Yelich and presumably with Yelich show. I don't know I don't have those would be but I would guess that it would have been the the the low thirties maybe when we woke up this morning the cubs also I believe benefit from the the playoff odds perception that the cardinals aren't very good of the cubs. Have I think seven games left against the cardinals and the these plots don't think the cardinals are a particularly good team but the cardinals have been the best team in the National League for the second half were or roughly so and and are a good team and so you know you could make the case. The cubs actually have a very challenging schedule ahead of them while the brewers have almost no challenge ahead of course so they have one series against the cardinals sets it. I don't think the brewers are are favored by any means and they wouldn't have been in. I think in fact a week ago I thought the brewers were completely out of it. It's the fact that they've managed to claw back in with a sweep against their rivals over the weekend and that they were not three out of four I think but three out of four thank you yes you you live a life of luxury and you count Thursday as a part of the weekend on a worker no three out of four sorry about that so they fought their way back in there only one email and also to be honest. There's not a lot going on in the standings and it has felt in a there have been multiple days in the last few weeks where it is felt like the National League is all sewn up and then the next day the cubs lose three teams win and you squint and you go okay well. Maybe we're an I've just had this rooting for whoever is closest exist kind of a feeling for the last few weeks just to keep some interest going in that race in the brewers. Were you know five teams out not long ungoverned. Neither one came out in so it's a real shame that it came when it did but I mean that's not to contradict anything that you were saying. It is a bummer. It seems to me that I'm sure this is not true. I'm sure this is my perception. In the moment maybe specifically because of the injury there's injuries every year obviously but it really feels like in a lot of ways this has been the year of the pennant race shifting injury or the. I don't know I don't know injuries feel like they've been such a part of the story reline particularly for contending team so you have you have yellowish going down a just as just as the brewers are getting back in it and then you had. Jose Ramirez is going down just as he was kind of reaching his his peak again in Cleveland was one of the the main competitive teams in competitive race so he goes down and you have hobby Baya's is is gone from the cubs simultaneously with yellowish and he's probably gone for the rest of September and I'm I'm. There's probably others that I'm thinking of in Paxton done for the year Iron Beck's done for the year you also have just the fact that the Yankees being that's been in a larger sense that has been one of the huge story lines of the year the Yankees going through this historic run of injuries and somehow coming out of it even stronger you had Cleveland Losing Carrasco in Kluber Lubar and it's seeming to doom them early in the year. You Know Sean Manet I dunno Carlos Correa has been out. I'm obviously you can name injured players players in on any team in any year but it feels like there have been a lot of injuries that have felt like like that was going to be doom for the team and Maybe maybe in this case it actually will be for Milwaukee or for Chicago without hobby by is or for Cleveland. Without Jose Ramirez who's to say but I dunno feels like it's been a bigger storyline unusual here. Yeah it's a big bummer and to be clear my column about this was not actually it's okay. Christian coaches herder or you're all making too much much of it. I am as upset about it as one. It's I think partly that he ended last season on such an incredible run that he as close as a baseball player ever comes to carrying a team or singlehandedly propelling the team into the playoffs. That's what Christian Yelich did last September timber and of course he propelled the brewers to the tiebreaker with the cubs and then into the S. and he was sort of starting to to do the same thing again this year the September he had also been on fire five of his first eight games had come against the cubs and he had torn up and he had walk-off against them on Saturday so he was doing the same sort of heroic thing and even though if you look at the wars and the projected wars it will tell you that well an eight win guy if we say that Christian Yelich has roughly an eight wind guy then over three weeks eighteen games. You wouldn't even expect him to be a one wind guy over replacement or in this case I guess over Trent Grisham who maybe is a better than replacement level will say but that that just Kinda really mirror the way that we feel about this baby. We should understand that and know that yes. It's baseball and you usually. Louis can't do what Christian Yelich did last September and even if you do there's just no way to protect. Maybe Trick Grisham will get hot or maybe yellow twitter slumped or maybe it wouldn't have made a difference. The difference between those two guys wouldn't have made a wins worth of difference because of the performance of the rest of the team but storyline wise. That's why we're watching his to see the best players play at quote the most important times of the year. I know that technically speaking every woman matters the same but this is when everything's magnified because we know how much the winds matter and we can count the remaining games aims and look at the standings and have it signifies something so it's a real shame to lose some in such a fluky injury to. I don't know that I've ever her seen. This exact injury happened. I was looking at Corey Dhaka's intrigue database to see if I could come up with comps and nothing was immediately suggesting testing itself because we're so used to seeing players foul pitches off themselves. All the time went around a little bit and maybe get a big bruise and be day to day in that set. They're back and that is not the case here as we speak. We don't know quite how serious it is whether it will require surgery what the recovery time will be obviously so much of Yelich. Appeal is the power speed Combo that of course he really hoped that he won't be hampered at all when he does come back which hopefully fleet will be in time for a full season next year but that this won't be a lingering thing that saps speed at all because in addition to being maybe the best non and Mike Trout hitter in baseball this year he's also been almost the best base runner and over the past calendar year just edges out trout as the highest war guy at least according to fan graphs so it's a loss do you. I think he probably doesn't really have a chance at winning the MVP award right now yeah yeah probably not if you look at the history of Mvp Award winners which I did when I was reading this article there have been like nine guys who have have won the award playing one hundred thirty or fewer games so it's not out of the question of course but a some of those guys more than half of them came before for the schedule expanded to its current length and be probably most of them didn't have a cody bellinger who was neck and neck with them. Perhaps even ahead of them. According to some sources so I think probably not his best shot was that he just have a hot September and the brewers would squeak into the playoffs and then he'd get the narrative boost but bellinger unless he goes into some strange slump he will probably pass Yelich which in all three wars by the end of the year he's already ahead in baseball referencing baseball prospectus and of course he has the playoff boost so I wonder her if anything you might see guys like Ren Donor Qatar Morte pick-up some Volker votes although looking back at the whole history of MVP award winners only been three guys who ever played one hundred thirty games or fewer hitters obviously who even finished second or third in an MVP race and all those guys were along time ago so I think Yelich will do that but yeah he probably has a very slim chance now that it depends entirely on Beller having a bad few weeks and may be on the brewers making the playoffs without him and at the you know if you're GONNA play one hundred thirty games obviously sleep through no fault of his own you don't WanNa Miss the final eighteen yes hi in a pennant race for your MVP candidacy but as it is bellinger is the only person who will pass him in Fan Rafts War and Martin might pass him or might not but otherwise only will be ahead of him and if you were to use win probability added he would have case to be better than than bellinger. He's by far the number one win probability added in baseball he's about to wins ahead of bellinger and he's only probably he will probably not be two wins behind him in war although he might in on Reverend so so there's there is a case for him. There's a case for debating that to award probably even still but yeah yeah and it's kind of incredible that the brewers are in it at this point because they've had a bunch of injuries issues but also they've been outscored by twenty seven runs as we speak right now and they have been very successful in one run games uh-huh and one in to run games and they've won a whole lot of those and that has kind of kept them in it so it's not really a great team as is currently constituted and yeah losing out hurts them a lot not just brewers fans but also all baseball fans because really he was probably the the player who was Achna stick of team loyalty like he was probably the most compelling player down the stretch right now just the combination of the award chase and the fifty thirty and where the brewers are in the race. He was probably the guy who should have been at the top of everyone's game-changer your list so it's a big book. The man managed to slip and slide naked without hurting himself. Yeah I thought he was invincible. One other thing I wanted to bring up there's been a personal catcher controversy in the past week and it seems like we've gone awhile without one of those not that they were ever extremely common but it seemed almost like a throwback to have some disagreements and maybe even some acrimony. Nonni over who is throwing to this is obviously Noah syndergaard and the mets and it was reported as syndergaard being upset even looted. I think the New York Post said about being forced to work with Wilson Ramos who he has not had as much success with the season the the team has done just fine win syndergaard throws to Ramos but rescinded card has not done nearly as well as he has done during two other catchers particularly to must neto and and so it was reported that syndergaard was upset about having to work with Ramos and Mickey callaway and Brodie van Wagon. Were just Kinda like well. You've got to suck it up because Wilson Ramos is really good hitter cow wave and said that Ramos has been the best hitter in baseball over the past month and a half which seems like quite an in exaggeration but he has been very good he was great in August and so it's kind of this interesting question that always comes up with personal catchers which is what's your obligation as a player and what is actually best for the team so Calloway said that when Jacob Degrom uh-huh wanted to work with a personal catcher last year that he was okay with that because the mets weren't really in it and Graham was chasing this historic works season and going after the cy young word so that sort of took precedence over the team results whereas now because the mets are still sort of in this wild card race he saying that Noah syndergaard just SORTA has to live with it and if you're Noah syndergaard than maybe you WanNa put the team I and you care more about the team winning than the results and maybe Wilson Ramos his bat outweighs to US Neto glove but also maybe you think think about this not selflessly but selflessly and you think well. I'm actually so much better when I'm throwing through Tomas Neo that this is the best thing for the team and the team mm-hmm is wrong about this and of course there's all sorts of other stuff here where Brody Van Wagon in gave Wilson Ramos his contract and he had encouraged courage Jacob degrom to try to work with Devon Morocco because he was representing dicap- to grab at the time so it's another vestige of that strange former agent agent storyline but I'm always kind of curious about this of course it goes back to maybe Greg Maddux working with a personal catcher or or even the days of Mike Napoli in Jeff Matheson just trying to weigh these separate skills because Sundergaard is right that Neto is the superior defensive offensive catcher. The numbers are pretty clear. If you look at baseball perspective he does the better framer us the better thrower and Ramos ranks pretty low on the leaderboard for catcher defense. NATO ranks pretty high so he's not imagining things and that's even going beyond what syndergaards probably talking about which is the symbiotic relationship chip in the personal catcher kind of melting of mines. Yeah I feel like you. If you're a star pitcher and you want to have a personal catcher and you frame it as like you want you just want to have a catcher who is more dedicated to you and your more dedicated to him and just it's. It's not about picking one over the other. It's more about having that dedicated relationship where you can really. I don't now bond you know meld together. I've you like that usually goes well. It doesn't usually go well when it framed as I have a teammate and I just don't really like working with him not that. I don't know not that I would know who's to blame in that relationship or whether syndergaard is is is right about his performance suffering or or anything like that. It just usually doesn't really go as well and so just the messaging here isn't ideal. It's more gets kind of message. Yes in that sense like so Zach Frankie for instance last year. Zach Cranky started thirty three games games and all thirty three of them were started by Jeff. Mathis and Jeff Athas only started. I think twenty eight other games the whole year and I don't think that was very disruptive. Have I never heard that. Green tea like didn't like the diamondbacks other catcher who what the time was was what Alex Avila. It was always just like you know he. He likes to have a catcher. Who's got a little bit more attention for him on him? They were together and that's all it is and they made it at work it. Wasn't you know you're going to have a backup catcher who starts one or two games a week and so you just put on that schedule and I don't know it feels like when the the way that this story came out though it is instantly like a tabloid story instead of a baseball story and it feels like the messaging of it. You don't have to try that hard. I wouldn't think to be a little bit more diplomatic about it I will I will. I will note that when Syndergaard is pitching to Rama. She has a better strike outrage. He he has a better walk rate and he does not allow any more stolen bases than when Tomas Nido catches now he does allow higher. Bab and he has a lot more home runs and maybe see that's Wilson Ramos's fault. I'm not saying that it is not but I don't know I don't know it. Just feels feels like it's always the mets. It usually is and to be fair. Syndergaard didn't dispute that this conversation happened but did dispute the characterization of he portrayed it as a more diplomatic and civil conversation of course he probably would say that even if if it wasn't one so I don't know exactly what was said but yeah. It's better if this sort of thing does not come out of course in his settled behind closed doors. I and I can understand I can imagine that there are probably players who form an attachment that is unnecessary necessarily like maybe they just become comfortable working with a certain guy and they kind of have tunnel vision and they're looking at how they feel and not how it impacts the rest of the team and maybe they just imprint on a certain guy because they happen to have a good game with this guy and a bad game with the other guy and they think inquiry. I can work well with this guy and I can't work with that guy and really it's just small sample and they're being fooled by something we all do things like that where we draw hasty conclusions based on some positive or negative experience that we had were something and so if you're the manager or your the GM maybe it can be your job to take the bigger view and save. Don't form your impression. Don't decide based on this. It's so subject to random. I'm very ation and yet if you are really feeling uncomfortable working with a guy then at a certain point. Maybe it does impact your performance even even if it wouldn't have otherwise once you decide that it probably will that you can't work with this guy. Then it's a self fulfilling prophecy and maybe that guy is feelings are ruffled and he doesn't like working with you. I could imagine catcher's not wanting to work with syndergaard because he allows a lot of stolen basis it through no fault of the catcher so maybe catchers have personal pitchers. They don't Wanna work with Noah syndergaard but yeah I I'm sure that there are times times when if we could run the math and there's just really no way to do it because we can look at your as with this guy and that guy maybe if it's a multi season sample you can have a little more confidence in you can look at components instead of just the big results but it's hard to know. I know it's hard to say statistically speaking that this is the optimal pairing because there's just a lot you kind of have to either disbelievers believer take on faith when it comes to the pitcher catcher relationship and so if syndergaard says he works so much better with the sky. Maybe it's just a comfort thing like maybe he's not actually better but he just enjoys it more he just. I don't know he likes talking to that guy more or he has the impression that he gets along with this guy better but really the results wouldn't actually be that different so I'm sympathetic but yet you you kind of want to I guess defer to your really good starters if you can if you have someone who is actually good at defense and his employed by your team for that reason to begin with and ideally of course you want to keep this thing quiet tend to settle it not in the York Post Sean Conroy Sean Conroy at this moment stompers. I asked one time if he likes if he had a personal catcher. He likes having a personal catcher if he believes in the value of personal catcher. He said he he really liked having a personal catcher. He just didn't care who it was. He was satisfied with any catcher that he he ever had but he wanted to be the same face behind the plate every every game and where we're. I'm sympathetic with with Syndergaard and with a lot of catchers is that you don't often have the same face behind the plate if you're lucky you're drafted by the cardinals finals in and then you do by syndergaard in his short career. He's basically played like four seasons. He's had he's thrown the nine different different catchers. You're just not gonNA get the familiarity that I think pitchers would prefer from that. Maybe you luck out and maybe you realized immediately that You you know Tomas Nido is your soul mate and in fact that's who you WanNa lock in with and then it can be frustrating that that player is not the primary catcher and that particularly as the in the stretch run when everybody's asked to do a little bit more and Romo's being the primary catcher was asked to do a little bit more by playing every day now all of a sudden you don't have your familiar millea face back there but the larger challenge of just having to adapt to a new catcher in this in this relationship that pitchers value a great deal and think matters. It's tough in in an era where players move around a lot. Where teams are you know trying to churn through costs controlled pre our players or or or whatever the case may be and you just you're dealing with three catchers every year and then the next year three catchers Yup alright emails emails sure all right well I sort of teased this one last time and since we're on the subject of mets pitchers guests will start here. This is from David any idea what the hell is up with. Edwin Diaz has any pitcher ever been so good and so bad at the same time it seems like it should be impossible to strikeout fifteen and a half batters per nine innings and still have terrible results but he's found a way he has the minus of Peter Lambert and the exit minus of Max Sir. Is this just small simple size and bad luck or is there some way he's breaking some of these metrics and I'll just to set this up. Uh Little Bit I will quote something at Wendy. S said after one of his recent blowups this is of course deposed mets closer at Wendy. S Diaz said I think it's been a lot of bad luck. Sometimes I leave pitches over the plate and they just pop out and get outs but it's just been a little bit of bad luck but I go out there every time and just try to get out because I know my stuff is pretty good. Obviously not something that mets fans probably want to hear ear from the guy who has been causing them mental stress and strain all season long that it's just bad luck but bad luck is a thing so we can take. Diaz seriously evaluate his case that it actually is bad luck and in the same story that I am reading here there was is also a Mickey callaway quote. He said it's hard to put your finger on the homer issue. We're going to continue to have faith in him and put him in situations because we have to get where we want to go and of course the SS usage has been a story all season and you can't use them this number of days in a row or in the sending her that adding but really what always talking about here in what he has is talking about here is Dinger's Diaz has allowed a lot of home runs even though he has also been excellent blend at missing bats most of the time yeah I mean these are by far the most frustrating player evaluation challenges because the overwhelming majority of pitches that Diaz has thrown have presumably like the evidence suggests. Ben Like the ones that he threw when he was really awesome and most homerun row injustice hard. He's throwing just as hard. He's throwing just as many strikes and he's throwing. He's getting just as many swinging strikes and that tells you that in like a sort of broad pitcher profile while he is mostly the same now all of the home runs that he is allowed presumably came on mistakes and you could very easily isolate those fourteen pitches and go up fourteen gene garbage pitches but in pitchers throw lots of garbage pitches. They throw a ton of mistakes and most of them. Don't get hit out and it's very hard to look at a pitcher in decide aside. How many of those mistakes should have been hit out and so in this case I I have no doubt that the fourteen pitches that he's allowed home runs on wor wor not good good pitches but I I have. I mean I also have a lot of doubt about whether he's actually systematically throwing more mistake pitches. It's possible that's how bad seasons happen is that that the pitchers do make more mistakes but then that's also how fluke casually bad seasons happen and so when you compound that with just the the inherent small sample -ness of a reliever throwing up through two hundred thirty four batters. I mean this is yeah well. I don't really have a stat last today. Ben But I I sort of I have one very very quick thing so. Do you want to just transition into that. Stop last date scars yeah okay so here's the stat blast Ben. We're going to have this year a record number of hit by pitches on three. Oh counts rights. Don't that's all okay but but while I was I don't know even why I was looking at at this was like the sort of thing where I was on the phone instead of doodling when I'm on on the phone I I I play index while I'm on the phone and so I- somehow thought I've always been fascinated by three ball hit by pitches not just three. Oh but three ball hit by pitches and I think I had just seen someone get hit on three when I thought I wonder if those are going up or down so I went and I looked and it's going to be an all time high this year but one thing I noticed while I was on this totally inconsequential play index query was that the Babbitt the league's Babbitt on three. Oh this year is three twenty one and last years it was two sixty three three and that's a big jump and you could say wow the league wide batting average on on three. Oh pitches has gone up sixty points and you could fill fill in some narrative about how teams are swinging more on three uh-huh and I don't know maybe pitchers are something like throwing more off speed pitches or something on on three. Oh and you could you could take all the little nuggets of information that you have about Behavioral Change League wide and the home run era in young players the orioles and all these trends and you could actually make some sort of semi coherent narrative explanation for why Bab went up sixty points on three. Oh pitches but of of course it would all be like it would be wrong. The Bab just fluctuates crazily on three pitches because it's a fairly small sample apple so bob this something that we mentioned before but one of the one of the sort of strange and wonderful things about baseball Babylon three hours basically the same as Bab upon all all other counts is like sort of the nail in the coffin for any argument that like Babylon is primarily a something driven by better hitters being better like like it's just it's just three. Oh you can't be a better hitter than three zero hitter and in in fact only the better hitters or even allowed to swing and yet they produce a cumulative. Bab that is like about the same as every everywhere else a few points higher but over the course of the last thirty years. It's been like five points higher than the normal Bab but it does fluctuate widely allie from year to year so it was three twenty one last year was two sixty three the year before it was three thirty eight the year before that it was to fifty six and two thousand twelve. It was three thirty three and two thousand three. It was two twenty nine in Nineteen Ninety nine to twenty nine. The League is a whole had a two twenty nine Bab on three accounts in nineteen ninety nine whereas they had a league wide data with three thirty eight in two thousand seventeen and so if you look at the league wide number of balls put in play it is about the same as a player season in fact this year there have been about three hundred balls put in play. Not Counting home runs on three. Oh pitches inches and Mike Trout has put three hundred and five balls in play not counting home runs and so if might trout's babb jumped sixty points and you wanted to do you know make some narrative about why it jumped sixty points or why it dropped sixty points which is more common a lot of times when players backdrops sixty points we say well sometimes it's luck but sometimes he's not hitting it hard but also a lot of times. It's locked. There's nothing about the pool of hitters in the major leagues this year that has has any sort of connection to each other all sorts of different players who because of small samples because the fluids nature of this randomly have have years where they hit three twenty on those balls and years where they hit two sixty on his balls switches ought to bring this back to at Wendy's Edwin D. Is I mean what is it a one hundred balls. Put in play. I mean how many balls do I don't know if you have it in front of you. But how many balls does he allow in play in a year is that he okay so he's faced two hundred and thirty four batters he struck out ninety one. He walked twenty so that gets us down to one hundred and twenty hit four so that gets us down to one hundred roughly fifteen and he is allowed fourteen home runs and so out of one hundred fifteen balls in play. Everything is going to be extremely neurotic and that applies applies to his Bob. It applies to his hits allowed. It applies to his home runs and so that all makes this very very frustrating. We're talking about the difference between the five mistakes being hit and five mistakes not being hit and so at the end of it. I just don't know and I don't know if I were Mickey Calloway how I could possibly really have the courage to send him out there with a one run lead or leave him out there say with a two run lead when the first two two players get singles against awesome but I also don't I I mean you'd have to you'd have to just feel like if you did anything else that you would always be doubting whether you overreacted in whether you could could somehow tell yourself just pre probably have to stick with this yeah it's really tough. It's he's. He's got a three ninety Babbitt. He has like a twenty eight percent. Homerun per flight ball rate so more than one of every four five ball sees allowed has turned into a home run. It looks like a utter disaster. It is an utter disaster in the sense that it's hurt the mets but if you look at the underlying numbers like at baseball spell perspectives has dra minus right now which is adjusted for the park and lower is better is sixty point seven which which is great really great. I mean not as great as last year. Last year. He was other worldly but better than he was in twenty seventeen when when he was also a celebrated closer and had a much more respectable. Era So it's just a very difficult question to answer i. I think you could say the same thing about Justin. Verlander you could ask the same sorts of questions obviously not quite to the extremes that we're talking about with Diaz but it's similar with Bruin where he's allowed a ton of home runs and that's really the only thing that has hurt him and correct. Edwards wrote about for lenders home runs recently at Fan graphs and he did do the things that you were just talking about just look at the pitches that turned into home runs see if he throws a lot of those pitches etc so he says I looked into the pitch types and locations for Veru Anders home runs more than half of his homers were in three fairly distinct into categories eight homers to raise fastballs down the middle middle low and middle away but still in the heart of the plate seven homers to lefties on fastballs at the top of the strike zone on four homers on sliders down the middle and then he says across those three categories I found that verlinden through those pitch types in those locations more often than other other pitchers with similar pitches and velocity which might lead to some predictability to his pitches though clearly not enough to prevent him from getting hitters out the vast majority of the time he challenges oranges hitters and it works most of the time but that same approach might make him slightly more vulnerable to homers in short for lender gives a lot of home runs because he throws a lot of pitches where batters hit hit home runs so that's a theory but as Craig acknowledges in that Perry Paragraph batters miss out of those pitches and don't hit a lot of those pitches so I just it's not that persuasive a case I guess when you are really trying to figure out whether pitcher whose unhittable most of the time and if he challenges hitters more of the time to then I guess you could say that he's kind of playing with fire all the time and usually it works but he is is going to get burned more than pitcher with lesser stuff. WHO's trying to stay away from those danger zones more often. I just don't know if that that really explains it to my satisfaction and it certainly doesn't really with delays with Berliner. You have you know in some ways. He's been very very lucky because he has to four. Babba and he has an extremely high strand rate so maybe that's partly him pitching better and differently with with runners on base but also may be. He's getting a little lucky and the ester defenses good so his season is also tough to evaluate but it's not quite as confounding founding of course because with Vera lender you're talking about is he. Having like one of the all-time great seasons or is he having just a merely really excellent and still all songs young caliber season so it's not quite as pressing to figure that out as it is with your closer who is either dominant or terrible yeah. I mean I'm almost in a sense on on Edwin Dis behalf grateful to Justin verlander for doing this in this year because he is he's the best pitcher in the American League having the best season of his career and he's also getting burned by a seemingly inexplicable. We'll spate of home runs and you don't say oh well there. You Go Justin. Verlander is a failure. You say wow that's really weird. I I I mean he's so good it. Must you know there. There must be an aspect of it that is just simply out of his control and that makes it a hello easier to say the same thing about Edwin D as who given that he is a reliever in that when he fails he fails in the most frustrating and sort of permanent way makes it easy for you to just like point and say you know get get him out of here and like paid him. Hey it it'd be like people hate their closers and so this Justin verlander is a lot. I don't know it seems like is a is a a a hand of grace reaching Edwin Diaz and seeing saying hey friend were in this together Edmondez by the way his Bab is almost entirely driven by Bab on ground balls calls and you again. You could be like oh well there you go. He's probably allowing a lot of hard hit ground balls. He's not really and you could say oh well. Maybe it's the mets that's Infield but it's forty two. He has forty two ground balls and and you know like a Bab- on forty two ground balls is just what would it sounds like so I don't know where do you fall on this Edwin D as what ultimately if you having not studied him nor having no stakes whatsoever that that matter if you had to decide whether Edwin D is is your closer on game one sixty three izzy. I'm so happy happy. I don't have to decide but obviously it depends a little bit on who else you have. If you have someone else who is also really impressive that you can feel confident in than than maybe you are more likely to go to that guy but I think I probably be far more likely to continue continue to trust Edwin Diaz than say the typical mets fan who has been burned by ideas repeatedly this year and doesn't care what his the R. A. Minus. An expert minus are only cares how many games sees plywood and how many games he's lost that person's not going to have that patience. I think think I would have that patients and I guess just inherently I do tend to believe that if you're throwing that hard in in your pitches or that nasty and you're getting that many whiffs that you must be good so I think I probably would continue to trust him them but if you're Mickey callaway than of course your job is on the line when you're making that decision and people are yelling at you all the time if you do trust the as in it's just a miserable situation for both of them to be yeah the real the real loss here if they decided not to use him. I mean they do have a pitcher or reliever. Who's really good and could be a lockdown closer or as pitched as well as a lockdown closer and it's Seth Lugo but the problem is that Seth Lugo they've been using as a as has a tuning guy ever high leverage guy and that's a super valuable thing that's arguably more valuable than a closer although if he fails then maybe the failed closer is more damaging damaging than anything else but like it would be very easy for them to say all right. We're just GONNA. We're GONNA put Seth Lugo in the job until things settle down figured out. We're GONNA know we have the ninth inning locked down and then just you you know that like the the reaction. The average fan reaction to a game blown in the seventh seventh isn't going to be as painful to deal with as a game blown in the night but you might be losing just as many games because although as you noted with Christian Yelich we're now to the point there who even knows like what in eighteen games everything could be the thing. You're best like eight in eighteen games. The fact that you traded traded for you. Darvish could be the thing that cost you the world series or whatever like the thing that seems like the best possible thing could be the worst the worst thing could be the best and you just roll with did it but yeah. I think I'd stick with India's. I think but I mean what you want. Look it's hard and what you want is for life to be easy but it's often not and you just you have to deal with it and sometimes when it's hard there isn't a good option. Sometimes when it's hard you think you have a better option and it turns out to be the worst one so the mets just kind of have to hope that this thing that they got really unlucky on like they traded for a lockdown closer to lock down the ninth and the fact that Ed India's came over whether it's because he turn bad or whether it's because he turned unlucky from the mets perspective it they got unlucky. They traded for an awesome closer who didn't for no reason whatsoever they could have anticipated is suddenly one of the worst closers that's bad luck and so now you just hope that you get a little good luck or at least normal lock but it doesn't always happen. Sometimes sometimes bad things happen while we're on the topic of closer volatility. Can I talk about something else on the shared all right so I'll just say by the way with that trade probably complicates the situation further. Maybe it shouldn't but the fact that was the centerpiece of this direction of the franchise. Chai's defining move that you made and you gave up the guy who's now ranked twenty two in baseball among all prospects according to a mopey dot COM and that guy's making you look bad every day as Diaz makes. You look bad on the other end. That probably is part of it because if you you just decide all right well that's it were thrown in the towel here. Were not going to trust at Wendy s anymore than you're essentially admitting that you really blew that trade. No one wants to do that either at least broke even wagon and doesn't so that's water under the bridge and it probably shouldn't affect your decision making but that's always in the back of your mind to in this particular case yeah the the game that the mets game last night. I I assume I don't know I assumed Diaz was unavailable L. O. But I'm looking now and he hadn't pitched vertebrae so I don't really know I think I had the sound off but it was bizarre to watch. They had a one run lead and Justin Wilson was the was the closer closer that night and they brought him in in the eight and then he comes in in the ninth and he two guys get on with the tying run is on third. There's one out and and you're just watching Justin Wilson lefty face a bunch of righties. Oh although I guess could tell. Marta is a switch hitter so but all the same to like watch him go through light to to watch Justin Wilson facing could tell Marta in with one room and it worked. They got out of it. All more date grounded rounded out the first base and was all very wild but they won so they're in a mess right now but in episode. I think thirteen zero three you and Jeff. We're talking about all of drake specifically this. Is that Really Piqued Jeff I duNNo. This sounds so good. I almost feel like this is a joke that the Internet already knows about about somehow missed it but I think he was talking about how Oliver Drake's middle name is Oliver Gardiner Oliver Gardner Gardner. Do you remember this vaguely in his player. Nickname was something like a recco or a buck. Fuck bucky maybe buck. I think known as Bucko when he was growing up and Jeff said his name is Oliver Gardiner Drake. Obviously you go by Olive Garden which means you go buy bread sticks. His nickname should be breadsticks. That is unbelievable. Jeff is the the best but a jazz about our Oliver Drake. I think maybe his stat last time was about players moving around or something like that and maybe you you were done who knows but you start talking about. Oliver Drake and Jeff says he says you can have a guy like Oliver Drake who is bouncing around constantly not getting an opportunity to get settled I and then you can have a guy like Blake Parker similar sort of journeymen who just sort of wound up for several months as the closer for the angels now Blake Parker's presently out of a job he was not tendered a contract last week so he's out there and he's likely to just kind of float around and look for some sort of medium leverage role but the gap between someone like Oliver Drake and someone who has been closer in the majors is really shockingly small. All someone like Oliver Drake cast to do is keep five more splitters down low in the zone instead of hung out over the plate late and then all of a sudden. You have a guy who can pitch the eighth or ninth inning and the truth is Oliver. Drake probably leaves fifty splitters out over the zone in the year. It's just the only like eight of them. Get hit for homers and if you take five of those eight and they are low in his own or they get missed. Nell of neutrally grey zone anyway the end of that that offseason for both those was that Blake Parker actually ended up signing with Minnesota and he was the closer four first place team for the first half and then like after he was there closer he was just released in the middle of the season he was both they're closer and released in the middle of the season and Oliver Deliver Drake. Meanwhile is employed by the same people who employ Jeff and he got his second save the other day and he is pitching in high leverage right now and and has been and so I always liked to at the end of the year by the way he's pitching in high leverage he hasn't era point three runs lower than Blake Parker Headwind Wind Blake Parker got released but Oliver Drake etc.. I always liked to look at the end of the year at the closers at who the closers are and where they were at the beginning of the year and so I have I have here I have the I would say the nine best closer stories from twenty nineteen or at least the nine closers who it is it would have been hardest to tell me in March that he was going to be the closer and so they are. They're these are the nine. I think it's nine might be eight. The angels closer is Hansel who not who just one year ago was selected elected off waivers and he is now closer for a big market baseball team. Liam Hendriks is the as closer of course Blake China and last year was like maybe maybe the greatest closer of all time for a year and now it's Liam Hendriks who in the first outing of the year he pitched the fourth inning he didn't throw throw any high leverage inning of an extra innings when he was forced into it until may fourth that was only the sixth inning it happened to be a close game but it was only the sixth inning and then he he didn't throw another high leverage inning until June fourth so through June fourth through June third at least he had thrown one high leverage inning in the entire season. He's now ready as closer independent race. The braves closer is Mark milan-san mark milan-san Martin Lanson. There's an advertisement he does ads or he did ads for for the giants all that appeared giants radio for like a home mortgage company or something. I don't remember what it was but they had some fun some Pun some baseball pun on and he was like it's a relief something like that and and I just remember thinking like this sucks for the home mortgage company because I mean Mark Mark Melanson like famous closer like very successful signed up for year dealer five-year deal whatever it was with the giants to be a closer and the the pun uses like close you deal but they couldn't because he wasn't a closer anymore so it was like don't get caught caught in the middle or like we'll get a good setup or something like he was just like a low leverage reliever now well now. He's the closer for the braves who are one hundred win team mm-hmm and who traded for Shane Green and all star like a month ago and now it's Mark Melanson all right. This is what we're talking about here. Okay Amelio. Pagan is the raise closer not Oliver Drake but Emilio Pagan Emilio Pagan last year second lowest average average leverage index in all of baseball second lowest. He's a closer her for a team. In a pennant race Mariners Matt McGill is they're closer. He was purchased purchased in July. I have the same era with Seattle that he had with Minnesota but with Minnesota. He was essentially released in with the mariners owners. He's closer Jose. Rainha appears to be the MARLINS closer. He was their opening day starter. I don't know that that sounds better her than the number like you hear that you're like well okay but venue then you see how he got there. The rockies closer is high. Rodion says who I believe was a minor league free agent pick by a few years ago he through five Major League innings from Twenty Sixteen to twenty eighteen so he pitched in the majors in twenty fifteen through none in two thousand sixteen. He didn't digital he was injured. He threw five in twenty. He's seventeen any spent two thousand eighteen both injured and then also in the minors he was he the rockies closer you remember. I said that he was the rockies closer right now. Last ask summer he was released by the rockies and then he just hung around for a while in the rockies signed him again so that that shows how in demand High Road D- as was one one year ago he's now a closer and then Joe Human is tigers closer. He has a career war of negative zero point nine his career wars native zero point nine in three seasons and in those three seasons one year he was an all star in a second year. He became closer. It's a good list list man and so anyway that's that's the that's all the same story as India's basically different. It's different. It's a different tab in the same spreadsheet uh-huh and you could probably come up with a very similar listed most seasons rate if not all yeah no. That's what yeah that's what that's why I do it. It's always it's always always good and sometimes I write the article around this time I think last year I did or maybe the year before where I tried to predict who's going to be every teams closer one year later if they all met the archetypes that had been established by that year's closures in September and so like I had to find a player with five point seven era in short season ball. I had to find him because one of those guys was now a closer. So who would it be next year by the way I left off. One row in Wick I believe is currently currently the cubs closer and he has thrown more innings in triple A. Then he is thrown the majors this year he was acquired for someone named Jason Vase Ostler last year who had previously been picked up on waivers and he is now a closer for a team in a minute all right. I I don't want to turn this into a Michael Ren's and fun fact debate but we need to convenient tribunal to talk about the I ninety five to to testify nineteen thing that's going on here. I don't know what to make of this but I don't WanNa ruin anyone's fun but I don't get it. I don't understand the it's. It's a fun fact or the fun. Facts are that Bruce Bochy at least for one day was nineteen ninety five and two thousand nineteen his career win loss record from the years nineteen ninety five to two thousand eighteen and now it has been underst- that the mariners again for one day her also nineteen ninety five and two thousand nineteen since nineteen ninety five and I just I don't see it. I don't get it. I think more willing to go along with the frivolous fun fact maybe that you are. Maybe that was just the case with Lorenza but this is just not doing it for me. It's it's true true for one day and then it's not true. It'd be one thing if it were the end of the season. Yeah even then like it does anything but okay. I'd find it more satisfying satisfying that there was this confluence of wins and losses and years but it happened one day I mean I'm sure you could you could probably find similar similar stretches like this for teams and players and managers if you look hard enough just for one day and it's fleeting and that its overnight. I don't know sorry to rain on everyone's parade but this one is just not fulfilling my needs so you like the fun fact you just want it to last longer but yeah. I Sir you you. You don't like numerology fund fags. We're are not a accomplishment just coincidences yen there is. I don't know like the other day. Ben I re. I I had the most glorious revelation and I realize I'm going to say this and I realized I believe probably we. Everybody has had this revelation at some point. I am amazed that I have not heard it more L. My Gosh it's going to be so frivolous. I can't believe I'm setting you up to be disappointed like this. But have you ever noticed so what's what is tell me what what happens in the month of January what the New Year right sure Jan a New Year New Year. It's practically in the name. January eerie practically is doing if you say right. If you practice a little bit then you can leave it in here all right anyway the revelation that a lot of people. I told someone isn't anyone yeah. I know I the thought of that too anyway. The point is that there's nothing significant about New Year. Almost I kind of being in January but if your independence you like it when a word conveniently sounds like includes or can be somehow manipulated into another the word that's all a pun is upon his to all puns are words that do not actually have any intrinsic meaning. They are merely symbols that were assigned represent present meaning that somehow by coincidental convenience have some resemblance to each other that then you can turn into like the word play and this is just wordplay with numbers it. That's all it is. It's just like Oh wow what a coincidence I can for this moment in this convenient moment and I mean most puns only exist for a moment to like a pun headline usually only works for that particular news for that particular article and so for this moment meant you can make these numbers kind of like look like a thing and it you know we all know it doesn't mean anything it's all fake but it kind of has this sort of a feeling of like serendipitous. It is designed like Oh wow isn't it cute how the universe accidentally makes designs and that's all it is. I enjoyed it. I would say I enjoyed it like on a the skit like like on a one to ten. I would say I got like a three or a four of enjoyment. I have no problem with somebody publishing it on on a micro blogging logging platform. I would say that I don't need to see a lot and seen a whole lot and if it had ended the year if the year it ended on that then I would have said like seven or eight then that would have been really liked every than it would have been released. Look all Chris. Davis is all the to forty. Seven stuff is the same thing. It's just like wow what a weird coincidence. There is nothing in intrinsically more consistent about Chris Davis because it's two forty seven then if if one of those had been to forty eight if you've gotten one extra plate appearance that made it impossible for him to get to forty seven but we like it we like it. It's sort of fun so the two forty seven is like like an eight or a nine or maybe even at ten is probably tend to be honest. ADS attend like how could it be. It's impossible that the mobile yeah it's but this is not even improbable really oh no because you have right you have whatever so many combinations of a few years records days not really though because you're you have to have the number of wins that is realistically divided by the number of years since the year that you are starting a thing in so you can't have one. It's very unlikely for instance that any team's GonNa have nineteen hundred eleven wins since nineteen eleven so you have some narrow window button thing are aren't we just searching for the combination that works at there's nothing thing about nine thousand nine hundred two thousand nineteen for the mariners. That's I mean what is that. That's they won. They won the Johnson pitch in and around the thing and maximum bid on but there's nothing about that period you what are they from nineteen ninety four to two thousand eighteen. It's just yeah probably not you know so. It's you're just kind of backwards engineering the fun fact it seems it's like at least not like that's when his tenure started. That was the beginning of his career with the padres at that point. I did not know there was the mariners won and the mariners. One is is definitely like a one or a two because you're right. There's nothing particularly significant about the mariners one. I don't think it's quite as common as you think it is that you could. I mean look numerology. That's the whole point of numerology. It's all because of you. Try enough combinations. You'RE GONNA find. You're gonNA find the thing so yeah. You're right it. It is just reverse engineering to find something that you can sell like like a psychic or something but the boji one would've would've been cool if it is already like a cooler than the mariners one. It's a three the mariners like a one or two or maybe it's a four if if it had it ended his career if he had if he that had been the last day of the season for if it had been the mariners it'd be like a five if it had been bocce it would've been like nine or an eight maybe and and if he had found out about this and said well that's that I'm leaving. I'm going to leave early and left then it would have been a ten and it would have been much because nobody could care less about this than Bruce Bowen she does and if he had actually been like no kidding Flan. You're the manager now. Tim flannery already retired to Hensley Meulens. He still around. You're the manager now anyway anyway yeah. I think what this teaches me is that I'm just really not very good at predicting the vitality of fun facts or really of anything in general but you'd think I could at least assess which fun facts would be everywhere and probably have it's not like random chance but I would. It's not have known if I had seen this original reddit thread. I would have thought okay that was worship reddit thread that that clears the extremely low bar for what is worth reddit thread but I wouldn't have thought everyone in the world is going to pick this up and aggregate it and tweet it because I just didn't have that reaction when I read it and yet this has been everywhere. I I know Ben even on fun facts that I care about. I'm still I'm not very good at predicting him and a couple of years ago. I had a I had. I had an article that was a bit it was the whole article which is Mike Trout Fun facts and I one of the might trout fun fun facts which I didn't think all that much was was buried in there and it was just one in fact in an article and then a few weeks later somebody did a reddit reddit thread on with just that fun fact and then they linked to to the article like the way that read it you know headlines do but they didn't credit me in the tax so there was the fun facts and then there was the link and I went wow that got a reddit no kidding and then someone else wrote a blog post about the fun fact linking to the Reddit page and then not crediting me directly at all and that thing got like five thousand retweets tweets and couldn't believe it and I see it now. I see it all the time. I see that I am not all the time but I see that fun fact once a month which one was I'm. I'M NOT GONNA I don't want to it's a friend who accidentally this okay all right. This is from Andrew Patrick Patriots Supporter in reference to the Darvish discussion that we had about you dovish as many pitch types. Do you think we'll ever reach a point where certain pitchers just don't have repertoires per se. They'll have have such mastery over their mechanics that can just sort of gopher break and run or whatever on demand like one pitch just transfer three to four inches of drop on the lower half then he goes for a big drop inside but as mastery of mechanics is such that he's not limited to what we would call pitches if they had to be classified so it will there be an end to pitch types and everything will just be gradations and variations said shades yeah so i. I like the concept apt I I think that there is some truth to the broadening ability of a pitcher to as as we Vaughn to really be able to manipulate if you late velocity and movement on each pitches in a much wider band. That seems very plausible to me. I think the hitch types themselves. Are there so so structurally different in the way that you grip them in whether you're basically going with the seams are against the seams whether you're raking your wrists or not whether you're I mean there's there's big big sort of structural genre type differences and so. I don't think that you're liable to see a total i. I don't think it's possible for them to all bleed into each other. I think that you can have siders that look more like fastballs and you can have herbals with more like changeups mm something maybe but you can't. They're different pitches. They're not thrown in similar up ways that you could really ever radical kind of bunching of those pitch types yeah. I'm imagining a pitch plot like you see like Harry. pavlidis looks at when he's classifying pitches for baseball and there are clusters and and it helps that they're different colors once they're classified so you can see these receptor pitch types but they're still clusters. It's not like a big cloud where where you can't really differentiate from one to another there are places where they bunch up in congregate and other places where there's no pitch that has that combination Asian of movement and velocity and to some extent this happens obviously pitcher sort of fitness their pitches so they might take a little off off put a little more on maybe they changed their finger position just subtlety to get a little more movement of a certain type deep on one pitch than they do on another but you're not going to confused dramatically different pitches that break like in different directions wins entirely for one another so. I think you're probably right that. They're they're still have to be some distinctions and you still have to be able to say a that was that pitch and and that was not obviously with certain pitches. That's tougher to do than other certain pitchers. Their pitches are not so so clearly defined or at least some of their pitches or not and that could be kind of a tricky classification problem was that this was at that but yeah I I think there's still some orders to what a pitch type is because you have to hold it in a certain way and in a dramatically different orientation orientation of seems that I think you can probably always distinguish one from another but I also like the I like the breakdown of traditional final pitch types just someone finding ways to like get into all the inbetween spaces like we're GonNa do this. It would be Darbyshire set cranky or or someone one. They seem to have experimented as bad as much as you can and yet you can still identify pitch types even though with darvish it's like here's the slow curve and here's the regular curve serve but it's still a curve yeah it would I'm trying to think. Would it totally selfishly at for analysis. Would it be more funner less fun. Would it be just so frustrating to not be able to deduce pitcher intent since you wouldn't be able to necessarily know what he was trying to do. You wouldn't be able to separate the pitches into those buckets that give you a a reasonable sense of predictability in intention yeah. That sounds like a nightmare right even just as a writer like having to describe what a pitch was how often it's just so handy to be able to say that was lighter and this was a curveball to just say that was a pitch. I don't know it moved this many inches and was thrown this hard but can't really call it anything other than that. That'd be a problem and yeah just trying to figure out like well well. This guy has a good pitch that he's not throwing enough and here are the results on that pitch should maybe he should throw it more. This would just muddy everything it would make it very difficult to do a lot of the analysis that we do all right all right too quick updates after we recorded. Anthony Tacoma reported that Wilson Ramos will be catching Ching Noah syndergaard in his next start on Friday. So syndergaards request appears to have been denied again and also the brewers one and the cubs lost so we now have a tie for the second wildcard with the phillies mets and diamondbacks all within two and a half games so things are getting pretty exciting that will do it for today. Thanks for listening. You can support port podcast unpatriotic by going to pitcher dot com slash effectively wild appalling. Five listeners have already signed up. Put some small amount to help keep the podcast. It's going and gotten themselves access to perks Maasim Yuliana Tana Stephan Sanderson Matthew Fong Lewis Euler and Mackenzie. What thanks twelve you you can join our facebook group at facebook dot com slash group. 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Ep. 1024 - The United States vs. God

The Andrew Klavan Show

1:39:20 hr | 2 months ago

Ep. 1024 - The United States vs. God

"Well the biden administration is shaping up to be the most progressive leadership since fdr extended the great depression for ten years. Everything about joe biden is progressive from his dementia to national debt to that gormless look on his face. It fills you with confidence that someone else must be running the country or we're just so totally doomed. In fact some of you may begin to say to yourself. Whoa hold the phone. Just how much of this wonderful progress can we make before. We've progressed so far. We can no longer even see america in the rear view mirror in order to avoid the horrifying answer. That question. let's instead take a look at some of the progress we've made so far in the battle days. Patriarchal families trapped their sons and daughters in restrictive gender roles. Now we've progressed to the point where government schools can teach our children about fluids sexual identities until they're fully prepared for self mutilation and suicide in the old days. Creepy perverts were commended by disgusting and destructive sexual fetishes. Now they can just call them identities and carry on in former times. American blacks and whites could only slowly rise out of the racist hostilities that 'cause segregation and mutual hatred now. We finally progress to the point where we've stopped doing that. Once upon a time the american military was limited to annoyingly macho battle-ready men who only knew how to lay waste store enemies and strike terror into the hearts of murderous regimes today. Our military is preparing for the future by including women in our fighting forces and learning to speak chinese. It used to be that the value of money was tied to the amount of gold in fort. Knox a meaningless and nonsensical connection that limited the nation spending to the arbitrary amount of cash. We just happen to actually have today. We progressed to the point that when the government needs more money all it has to do is open another box of monopoly and we can finally distribute wealth to the needy until every single person in america can actually build a hotel on boardwalk while sleeping on skid row at the same time in the old days we had to live in fear of fascism and communism but today our government is surrounded by armed guards and barbed wire and anyone who disagrees with the ruling party will be silenced so hurry we have nothing worse to fear in short. We're all progressing so fast that soon we will have come full circle and be living like savages with our bodies covered in tattoos and our faces pierced with adornments while we listened to primitive rhythmic music and commit sexual outrages violence it will then at last. We'll know we've reached los angeles trigger warning. I'm andrew klavan and this is the andrew klavan show so release. Should shape the tops. So wonderful as we want to see all right. 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Because i think we're in a state of decadence and you know. I have seen such states before and i remember very specifically on my birthday. Nineteen seventy seven. I was living in new york. City in new york city at that time was a cesspit. As it's becoming again today it was just it was filled with crime. You couldn't go out at night People would write to you and ask if it was safe to visit It was filthy. There were homeless people. Everywhere is pretty much like it's getting to be again now. On my birthday was my the woman who would become my wife. I was living with her at the time We were flat broke. We had absolutely nothing She had been chased out of her office repeatedly by al and bomb threats. I had been covering the son of sam murders for a free i think for the was writing for something for the ap and we were both kind of raw up with the violence that was in the city and the hot all the time. It had been freezing cold winter my birthday. We had saved up our little pennies to go to our favorite restaurant. Which i think i'm talking from memory now but i think it's called the ginger man and we had this lovely dinner together in the middle of this dinner. Nineteen seventy seven on my birthday. The blackout hit. The city just went absolutely dark. And i remember looking out the window and seeing the lights kind of cascading out and the restaurant was kind of embarrassed that they you know they. They had gone dark and they couldn't serve but he's so they started giving people wine and my wife and i got just a little bit drunk out of our minds. We were absolutely smashed and we left the place feeling really good and we danced home. We walked home. I remember we We danced to. They all laughed at christopher columbus but ha ha ha who has the last laugh now believe it was me who was singing that at the top of my lungs as we dance back home and my wife tried to make me a birthday cake and i remember dropped pieces of the mixer in ca she was absolutely stoned. And then we just both passed out in the middle of the night. I was awakened by a phone call from california by a reporter there who i knew and who wanted to ask me how the riots were going because in fact while she and i were dancing home Crazily in love with one another. The city was on fire The people in the black neighborhoods had set fire to the city. And we're looting and rioting all over the place it was a city indicate it was a city that was full of decadence and yet and yet not that long later really ten fifteen years later. Let's see those seventy brent really ten years later. It was one of the greatest cities in the world that had started to become one of the greatest cities in the world. When rudy giuliani came. In which i believe is in the ninety s He came he turned the city around. It became as great a city as their was earth as great city. Probably the greatest of great cities it was peaceful it was beautiful. it's nasty neighborhoods were transformed. It was unbelievable so that moment of decadence that we danced through actually did turn away. It was it was a matter of policy. It was a matter of policy. And you never know. You do not know when you've entered a period of decadence whether you're in what i'll call small decadence which can pass away by good policy and a change of change of approach or whether you're in big decadence and it's going to take the destruction of your society before you can move so you last week. I talked a little bit about rock music and a lot of people misunderstood me news extinct. I mean that's that's the first thing. But that's not what i was saying. If you like rock music. I can't tell you that your taste is terrible days this terrible. That's just the way it is. But that's not what i was saying. What i wasn't saying the rock music was inherently decadent. I was making the point that rock music rebellion against the upper order against the elite and when there is a rebellion against the elite. There's a question of whether that rebellion which may or may not be justified stops there and forms a new elite refashioned the elite and refashioned the values of the of the country or the entity whatever it is or whether that rebellion becomes a rebellion against nature and creation itself rebellion against god. In which case you're in for trouble. You're going into a period of evil and decadence. And and that i think is what has happened to us when i was simply saying that. I wasn't saying that the beatles were bad. I was saying the beatles could have progressed in one way but it actually ended up with cardi b. gyrating around but making a fool of herself and the reason i said this happened. This is cleveland psychology. The reason i think this happens is because i think each of us comes into the world seeking god we see god our mothers we see god and our fathers. We gotten authority figures and win. Those fingers fail us as they inevitably do. The question is can we take that devotion that we have given to them and move on and give it to god and go on happily realizing that people fail and sometimes they fail in love and sometimes they fail because they're messed up themselves. Can we then pushed devotion and give it to to the place put in the place where it belongs or do we start to rebel against our own nature against nature itself against the meaning of nature and against the moral order. And that is what is i think has happened to america. What does it mean. what does decadence means. Because this is a period of decadence but decadence doesn't mean that people are bad. It doesn't mean things are falling apart. Doesn't even necessarily mean that all the arts are bad but it does mean that things have kinda played out of the cycle has played out. Here's jack barzan from his excellent excellent book. If you haven't read it it's long but it's really great. It's called from dawn to decadence and it traces the history of the west from about martin luther from martin luther beginning of the reformation to when it was written i guess in the seventies or eighties which he was felt was the beginning of decadence and decadence. That i think is being played out now to its degree. Here's what he says he says. All that is meant by decadence is falling off it implies in those who live in such a time no loss of energy or talent or moral sense on the contrary is a very active time full of deep concerns but peculiarly restless for it sees no clear lines of advance the loss. It faces is that of possibility. The forms of art as of life seem exhausted. The stages of development had been run through institutions function painfully repetition and frustration of the intolerable results. Now again the small decadence. and there's big decadence and you never know what you're in. At the turn of the twentieth century. There was a sense in europe which had reached the height of human civilization. It was at a height that human civilization had never reached before and yet there was a sense that things have played out that people had become spoiled that they had finished with all the great arts that there was nowhere to go and people started to yearn for war. They started to urine among other things they started to yearn for war and there was a great rebellion against the victorian era a lot of new forms of art coming coming along and if you read a book for instance like the magic mountain which takes place in a to burke facility and it just as a symbol of the decadence of the time because the people in the tuberculosis facility check in but they never check out. It's the hotel california. They cannot leave because they never feel well enough to get back to life and it ends. The novel ends with the war coming in a sort of sense of hope that as they charge off into war this civilization will refresh itself. In fact that was the end of european civilization the civilization that started with martin luther ended with world war one and then world war two and the energy of the west moved on to america but there were other other kinds of decadence than i have lived through smaller decadence for instance in the seventies and it was because of the rise of leftism then left the supreme court decisions that filled our cities with crime Leftist economic principles that caused stagnation and bolaise. Jimmy carter who was very bad president but not the worst president. I think i think brooke obama actually outdid him. He came forward and he made a famous speech which was really controversial where he said america suffering from malays and i have to understand to get a gallon of gas for your car. You had to wait on line. You could only go an odd and even days because there was a gas shortage and you had to wait on line sometimes for hours just to fill your car with gas. There was incredible inflation and yet at the same time the economy was stagnant. I was living in a horrible area at that time. I won't tell you what it was. I don't want to insult but there were people fighting in the streets. Everybody's the look on everybody's face was grim and the president of the united states. Jimmy carter got up and told us that we had to buck up because we were suffering from malays was called his famous malays speech at twenty nine. The threat is nearly invisible in ordinary ways. It is a crisis of confidence crisis at strikes at the very heart and soul and spirit of national world. We can see this crisis in the growing doubt about the meaning of our own lives and in the loss of a unity of per push for our nation. Our progress has been caught of a living history of america even the world. We always believed that we were part of a great movements of humanity itself called democracy involved in the search for freedom and that believe has always strengthened us our purpose but just as we are losing our confidence in the future. We'll also beginning to close the door out past. That's an amazing speech for the president to make to say that the problem is the way americans feel rather than his own policies. That is of course the problem. With the left and generals it never looks to its own policies when the people go out in the elect a man like donald trump who is a real different kind of person. They don't ask themselves. why what. What is the the trouble they say. How can we get rid of them and get back to what we were doing before. Only because carter was thrown out after one term and ronald reagan was elected in five years from that moment. Which really really was a gray moment. Go back and look at some of the videos you can see. There's a movie about the famous hockey game. Between the ice hockey game between the russians and the americans The kind of details. What it was like what it felt like it was a genuinely grim time. I remember it very very well. Five years later. Ronald reagan ran for re election. And this was his add. Famous ad called morning in america. That would not have worked. Had it not resonated with the people. This is five years after that speech you just watch. It's morning again in america today. More men and women will work ever before in our country's history with interest rates at about half the record highs of nineteen hundred. Nearly two thousand families today will buy new homes more than at any time in the past four years this afternoon. Sixty five hundred young men and will be married and with inflation of less than half of what it was just four years ago. They can look forward with confidence to the future. It's morning again in america and under the leadership of president. Reagan country is proud and stronger and better. An amazing turnaround and the turnaround lasted lasted through the eighty s. It lasts through the eighties nineties. It lasted two two thousand. It was really It really was with barack obama after we have that crash in two thousand eight and had all the wars george w bush that really did hurt our economy and they were wars that were not paid for and now look like an overreaction to the attacks on us on nine eleven and then barack obama basically who did not like the country said he would transform it and he did he transformed into a mess. We have not really climbed out of that mess. If you thought that obama was a rerun of carter. Which for awhile. I did yet. He was re-elected because he caught the wave of the upswing in the economy and because he was a much better politician than carter was and it was it was trump who was thrown out and he was thrown out because of his personality personality without which you would never become president in the first place so we are in a bind right now. We are in a deep deep trough of of decadence. And we don't know whether it's going to get out whether we're gonna come out of it whether it's going to be big decadence which means there's going to be have to be some kind of cataclysmic event before we can climb out of it or whether it's going to be small decadence and simply a change of policy renewal of a new generation coming in Will give us the ideas. We need to move forward and do not of course listened to conservatives conservative. Always think it's the end of the world. That's the way they are and they say it with great conviction our. it's over. forget it has done this done. We're done. That's a to me a weak way of looking at the world. I mean as i as. I continually say we can. We can win a fight but we you can lose a fight but you can't win a surrender So it's always worth fighting even if you think you're going to lose. So what is at the heart of this. And i want to go back to this. I said it. Before when i was talking about music and i want to say it. Again because shapiro. Ben recommended a book to me called the rise and triumph of the modern self by theologian named call truman. And we're gonna try and have them on the show. I haven't quite finished it yet. But i was really touched by it because what it is. He traces the ideas that have led us to this moment specifically Of sexual confusion that has caused us to believe that people can snap their fingers and change their gender. And we have this woman. This guy really was just appointed to the health and human services who's just confirmed in the health and human services division who levin but rachel levine. Right she was just confirmed and this is a person who thinks the children should be butchered in order to change their sex if they have some uncertainty about what their gender is. Which is really. That's a person who shouldn't be confirmed to anything except treatment. That's the person who really needs help. And how is it happened. That we're confirming people. Like that and calling people phobic if they disagree with somebody like that it really is a question. How we've gotten to this really been lost lost place and yet and yet the people saying that it's a lost place. The people crying out against it don't seem to have the power to make it stop. And so in this book the rise and triumph of the modern selfish theologian courtroom and traces. The ideas that have led us to the moment to this moment and he traces how the romantics including rousseau transformed the transform. Put forward an idea that society that corrupts the authentic self from the authentic self of humanity is basically good so this was the opposite of christianity where we believe the essential self is broken. It's good it's beautiful beautiful but has been broken by sin. Russo said no it society that has transformed this beautiful thing of humanity. This left alone would just be a great person Shelley and blake and then finally freud See traces this transform that authentic nature of of the human being so that it's centered on sexuality the according to freud really who was such a powerful thinkers such a dominant thinker. When i was a young man The person that you are is all keyed into your sexuality and what you want and how your sexuality has been repressed and how it should be. Let free and how. It can't be let free and that idea. According to this book was married to call marks ultimately so that the idea of liberation and revolution was now keyed into sexual revolution and in order for us to be free. We didn't need to redistribute wealth so much as we needed to be freed of all our restraints. And it's an anti christian movement because christianity does not believe that the authentic self is where you're going. It believes that you are at your best. A branch of the vine of god. So it's not that you're bad it is that you're broken and you can heal yourself by turning yourself around. What touched me so much about this book. This book by the guy was hilariously named true man. That's his name What touch me so much about this book is. It's the exact. Reverse of my memoir. The great good thing. If you read my memoir my memoir is my intellectual history which goes back through sigmund freud and through the ideas of through the root the ideas of the market assad who is at the center of all this. We'll talk about later in the show to christ. So i was going against the tenor of the time. I had this friend. He's now dead but he was a yale. Phd who read a book of mine. Because i couldn't get this book published. And i said i can so beautiful book. Why can't i get it published and my friend said don't you understand. This is a direct quote. You're thinking is going in completely the opposite direction to the intellectual trends of our times. So i wanna put forward to ideas. Come from this one is this. The problem is the problem of god. It's policy but the policy we're lost new policy because we lost in the question of who we are and the purpose of what we're doing if your purposes to make make it so that rachel levine can wear pearls and butcher children were on the right track. If your purpose is defined freedom so that each individual reaches fruition or as many individuals who can reach russian and that individual fruition. What lifts the country up. If that's where we're going we're going to have to turn back to god in. I'm sorry if you don't believe it's just the way it's going to have to be it. Doesn't it's not necessarily going to be the christian god but it's going to have to be that creative. Who endowed us with our individual rights and then we'll start to realize that women and men. It's not that every woman is feminine is not that every man is masculine. The each woman man represents a part of that part of god the feminine mask masking part of god. And then you start to realize have purpose your connected to a higher meaning and that is how you start to turn around. This is a war against that that this is a war against that is obvious and everything these people say those room kennedy. Who has reinvented racism. So that you can now say anti-racist And be racist. Kennedy himself has said he is he is. He is opposed to what he calls. Save your theology because save your theology means that some people are centers and some people are not doing as well as others and that you can head somewhere and if you can head somewhere then if you're headed in a different direction you're in the wrong here. Here's candy talking about the fact that his philosophy is anti-christianity to me. Anti-racist fundamentally reject savior theology that goes right in line with racist ideas in racist theology which they say you know what black people other racial groups. The reason why they're struggling on earth is because of what they're doing wrong. And it is my job as the pastor to sort of say deeds wavered black people or wayward poor people or wayward queer people. That type of theology breeds bigotry. And until to me. The type of the allergy of liberation theology breeds common humanity a common humanity against the structures of that oppress it. It's really amazing. What he's saying is morality morality and meaning create bigotry. because if there's a meaning to life is a purpose to life and some people are headed on the wrong path. there's morality and some people are doing what's wrong and that becomes bigotry. And if you see what the left is doing. It's always that you know you shouldn't slut shamed people shouldn't fasching people. You shouldn't evil shane. People is that people aren't evil. They're just doing things because the society is evil and so on and that's how our society has fallen down the the the rabbit hole. The thing is again. I danced new york while it was burning. And i saw new york turn around. And i've seen other things turn around that nobody thought would turn around including the fall of the soviet union and the fall of the soviet union really began when john paul the second i mean there are a lot of reasons. It happened but john paul. 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Phillip's refused bake a cake to celebrate a gay wedding. Not because he hated gay people but because he's a christian and he didn't believe that there is such a thing as gay marriage and he didn't feel he feels that he's an artist and he didn't feel that he should use his art to express approval of something of which he disapproved. Now the supreme court said that he didn't have to do that but they ruled on very narrow grounds. They said that the state commission had displayed clear an impermissible hostility but they didn't resolve the case of whether the government can compel people to create speech with which they disagree and Who was was bill. Mcgurn wrote about this in the wall street journal wrote about it brilliantly. What happened then was a lawyer. autumn scardino came and started to. Harare is clearly an act of harassment. She went and requested that he make a custom cake to celebrate her gender transition. Pink on the inside blue on the outside and he refused. Here is phillips lawyer. Jeremy tedesco saying what he thinks is at stake. The goal is to silence jack to banish him from public life. The financially ruined him and to send a message of intimidation to people who share jack's beliefs. They have no place in public life. Have no right to earn a livelihood and follow the religious conviction simultaneously. Now just in case you don't get the point right. When after masterpiece and phillips refused to make this cake this gender transition cake scardino called to ask for another one which featured satan smoking. A joint shouldn't won't be subtle or he didn't. I don't even know if he's here she didn't want to be subtle about it. When it satan smoking a joint when asked why she ordered the satan cake reading from bill mcgurn article when asked why she ordered the satan cake. She said she wanted to believe. Mr phillips was a good person and hope to persuade him to see the errors of his thinking in other words. If you don't show the errors of your thinking and agree with me. I will destroy you now. The important thing to realize is we all support. I think jack phillips and doing what he's doing. In fact i just i just am so distressed myself that the reasonable request that gay people be treated with kindness. Instead of ostracized from society has transformed into what i call homo. Fascism where these people think these activists because it's not gay people as activists think that they can hunt this guy down and make him agree. Make him celebrate them. It's not enough that he says i love you. I will show you a cake. They he has to celebrate them because otherwise since since their authentic self is their homosexuality their centric self is completely connected to their sexuality instead of their ideas instead of their actual the actual things they love. They cannot live without this one person's if one person somewhere is not celebrating them they fall apart and that that is a sign of. You're not at peace with yourself. I mean a lot of people. A lot of people don't celebrate me. And i i don't even say sweep about it but this person is gonna lose sleep if you feel ups and colorado will not celebrate the fact that he was a man and now thinks he's a woman here is phillips talking about this and the thing i just want you to pay attention to is he's hurt. He has lost a huge portion of his business and he's forty percent of his business because he stopped baking wedding cakes altogether. Now a guy like this is an artist with the cake right. What's his business whose business making wedding cakes. But he stopped doing that because he doesn't wanna be accused. He doesn't want to be shut down for discrimination so he stopped. He's lost a huge amount of his business doing this and he will not been. Here's phillips are you an object lesson for the whole country that if you dare to stand up for your own religious beliefs you will be tarred you will be demeaned and frankly yourself dehumanize and they've really hurt you financially really hurt you know they. They really have. The state took away forty percent of my business which is my wedding business. The first go around and the thing is i serve. Everybody who comes in my shop. I welcome everybody and we glad to create cakes for anybody that comes in so the reason i play this emphasized the pain that he's in the fact that his he's lost forty percent of his business and he has to go into court all the time and now he's been sued by an individual who thinks he can get around the fact that the state can't prosecute him by persecuting personally. The reason i emphasize this is because of all the people who write to me sane. How can i without you know. How can i get a stand up to my leftist college professor without losing my grades. How can i stand up to my critical race theory. Hr person without losing my job. How can i am the answer is you can't anytime of decadence when you stand up for the things that you believe you will be crushing the time of bounty in time when people when things are running well people understand the especially in a free country we understand the multiplicity of ideas that actually make us go forward that help individuals to thrive because we identify an individual with his ideas not with his crotch. We identify a person as the person in relationship to his god himself in relationship god instead of the person who the person is sleeping with compare phillips to christine oh now kristi gnome a single mo- move has gone from being the future vice president of the united states to being the future former governor of south dakota. She had a bill coming on. That was going to stop. A bill had been passed by the legislature in south dakota. It was going to stop men from playing in girls sports by the clearing themselves women and she was threatened by the ncaa who said we're gonna pull their tournaments way. She possibly was threatened by amazon. Who was going to build a building. Sue sioux falls sioux city. Whatever the city is in south dakota And was threatening that and she kate. She said i'm going to send it back with a few things. Change is a bill with four things in it. She's changing together. Two of them and gutted the bill. She went on tucker carlson to explain her reasoning and tucker went after her as i think she actually deserved i was a fan of kristi noem. And let's not forget. Let's not just turn our back. On the fact that she behaved in an exemplary fashion during the pandemic she didn't shutdown. She didn't order people to wear masks. She didn't closer economy. She kept her state going. She was actually heroic. But as you hear in this she is really on the on the defensive because she seems to have caved in to powerful interests. We've had to fight hard to get any tournaments to come to south dakota. When they took punitive action against us we would have to litigate and legal scholars. That i have been consulting with for many many months. Say that i would very likely lose those litigation efforts and i don't think should stop the bill many times over and over again but we so you're saying the ncwa threatened you and you don't think you can win that fight. They said if you sign this we won't allow girls in south dakota to play and you don't think you can win in court even though the public overwhelmingly supports you nationally. And so you're caving to the nc double a. I think that's what you're saying. No that's not right at all. Tucker in fact you're wrong completely. I've been working on this issue for years. In fact several years ago i fought. I fought usda to make sure that four h. Rodeo and that the sport of rodeo could keep girls events girls events and boys events boys events. So i've been working on this for many many years. She says that she's going to form a coalition of states or she has the power to fight back but it rings hollow it rings hollow. If you can't stand up. I mean what if jack phillips i'm going to form a coalition of baker's no he went to. He went to the hill. He went to the himself. He stood up for himself. And this is the problem the people who are persecuting us to dip the persecuting the believers and i know that not everybody is a christian. I know that not. Everybody even believes in god but they actually believe in the things that the the things that god means the meaning of life the meaning of our bodies the meaning of not being of not thinking. All of your desires are the right thing. We all the people who agree with that. Who are the conservatives understand. You are going to have to pay a price at this point and if our politicians won't pay the price if they're asking just individuals like cake bakers to pay the price we're in we're in serious trouble. You glenn reynolds a friend of mine. He runs this great blog instapundit. He you know he went on. Tbn he wrote an article about the fact that these people are in the minority. The people fighting against christianity of people fighting against america are in the minority but they're bullies and people are caving in. Here's what he says six. The woke is a edgy satire. It's maybe three or four percent at most of the pop. Everybody hates wall culture. With the polls show drive american -tated vast majority black all minorities liberal comedian tainted but barack obama's spoken out about it and they still get their way so often because they're just bullies and they bully people and they threaten them and they go after them and people just want them all to go away and so they give in especially the people who run a lot of our institutions who tend to not much in the way of spy. Think much in the way of spine and that's right and the only reason i'm saying this is i'm just trying to situate you in your situation in your time. This is your time. This is the time that you were given to live. You know remember. You know it's like it's like frodo you don't wanna be in this time you don't you wish the ring had never come to but it has come. This is the fight you are in. This is what is going to take. It's going to take daily. And as i always say it's not a question sticking your head in the cannon's mouth it's a question strategizing. 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Can you put on a mass Yeah what i'm talking about. Tv camera and make us feel better. You know when you're in a time of decca you have to understand that everything. There's no escape from that time you can. You can live in the past. You can just go and watch things that were written before in the nineteen forties. You can watch movies on turner classic you can go to the opera. You can watch and read classic books. All of those things are good things. But you're still going to be in your time and you're still going to have to look for the flowers that grow and all this and you have to understand that everything we're seeing is part of this joe biden's decrepitude is part of this. Joe biden is a mask on leftism. Leftism is decay leftism is a form of decay. No one no leftist ever talked about making anything they only take about. Talk about pillaging. Things that were made before the money they spend was made before or they believe will be made in the future. They're always they're always conserving. They're always dividing the always distributing but they're never creating they never created anything remember. Government does not create anything you create stop and the government takes that way to fund the government so leftism is a form of decay. So when you look at your binding you think. How can this guy have become president. How can this like oatmeal. Think trump is still asking himself. How did i lose this guy. We lost him because he represents a time before decadence but he's demented enough and weak enough to allow this decadence to continue. So he's a perfect mask for the decadence. We said it before he was elected. Tomorrow's news today. I'm saying it's still. He gave his first press conference and what was amazing about the press. Conference was well first of all. Let's let's take a look at some of the pieces cut thirty two. Am i giving you an answer. Because if you don't want to detail. No i mean. I don't know how much detail you one about immigration. Maybe i'll stop there for nick so the best way to get something done if you if you hold near and dear to you that you like to be able to Anyway i'm we're ready to get a lot done but folks i'm going. Thank you very very much appreciate that was made with a briefing book in front of him that he was paging through to look up the details. Except i'm not looking at the details. Which i've never seen a president do before. Of course you want the president to be the sharpest knife in the drawer right. You want the president vava's facts of his fingertips he's talking about. Nobody cares if the press secretary has to look at the book but the president should be able to come out but that was the way he was talking he was blithering here of the wa. The questions that the press was asking a brief montage partly from our friends at newsbusters but we pieced it together cater presidency success. It can can't make progress on those four challenges. Climate change immigration reform gun control voting rights. You've said over and over again. That immigrants should it come to this country right now. This is the time to that message is not being received instead the perception of you that got you elected as morally decent man is the reason why a lot of immigrants are coming to this country and trusting you with unaccompanied minors. How do you resolve that tension republican. Legislators across the country are working to pass bills that would restrict voting particularly democrats. Fear impacting minority voters and young voters. The very people who helped get you elected in november. Are you worried that if you don't manage to pass voting rights legislation that your party is going to lose seats and possibly lose control of the house and the senate in two thousand twenty. So that's the press telling. Joe biden his good and decent. The the republicans are trying to restrict the vote which is just not as simply not true that if he doesn't fulfill his most left-wing promises He's not he's gonna lose reelection he'll never be elected again. That when the press has become what they become which is a bunch of four tongue. Unix who simply stand up for one way of the fruit. Stand up for the decadence. That's part of the dennis too so we're living in this decadent system right. It's not like oh this. This institution is falling apart that institutions falling apart. We're living in a decade and system and everything creative everything that is going to be new and good and bring things is gonna come from us. It's gonna come from the people and it's gonna come from the people that they elect put forward to bring new ideas because even trump was you know. Trump was great and being a loud mouth about defending western culture but he was not bringing a new vision of what we should do. Even in his day was an old old man. We turn to these old men in these moments because we think that they have something that we've lost when really we have to find ways of going forward and i'm obviously very fond of old men being one myself but still we have to find ways to go forward the fact that we cannot let the boomer generation go we cannot bring in new people because these new people like barack obama are bringing in the older the oldest of ideas these nineteenth century nonsense marxist ideas that they've now regenerated in a new way and repackage put funny nose mustache on. We need people who actually have a vision of how of how we're going to move forward as americans into future world of crazy technology and when you look around you know. This is so much about what this mask. Controversy is about this this whole idea that we should wear masks. It is so much about the energy of manhood. The energy of the realty. The country needs to move forward. I always say the future is always male when people say the future's female and when i mean by that is when you look around at. Who's doing the new thing. It's always always going to be young men and if that new thing is taking drugs and looking at pornography and hiding in their mother's basement that's what the future is going to look like. That is what the future is going to look like. And when you see people you know. I went to. The doctor said to my doctor. My is a great doctor. But he's a lefty. I said i've been vaccinated. Can i spread the disease. He said no so. I don't have to wear a mask. He said oh. You should wear a mask. That's why he said as a political statement he said. That's not my politics. That is the politics of submission the politics of fear. We don't want to see it. You know there is a is a group of kind of facebook comedians who didn't call the holderness family and they did a song about being vaccinated that came from the was a take off on the movie frozen song from the movie frozen and it was just cringe inducing. I don't know whether they meant it to be induced whether they were making fun of people but this idea that somehow now we were suddenly free and and it has this man the husband of the family singing like a little girl and making all these little girls gestures. He's a little bit of it from a cut. Four it's fascination point zero and nine group for. I don't have to stay heater randy more. I'm sick gaining. Take out on these dates. The time indoors has got me stress. But i checked on. Cbs find the lead. They're giving us the actual real life people. It'll be totally strange so he might even get to go and see a game if you watch his gestures. they're all these kind of girl is gestures. I think the real question came from the actual movie frozen. Cut five empty halls. I have room with. no that. is the question. Why have a ballroom with no balls. While i have a country. Why of a country if we haven't got the courage the defendant if we haven't got the courage like christine home do not have the courage to stand by our guns if we don't have the courage like john. Jack phillips has to stand by his god you why. Why have a country at all. Because it's just not going to stand this. We've had really good for a long time. I was born into the america's greatest moment. I had it really easy. I didn't have to go to war. I didn't suffer real depression. I didn't have any of that stuff. It makes you saw. That is what happens after awhile. You think like how. Can i just keep my comforts. How can i keep my gizmos. How come i keep all the things that i have you. 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Authenticity that the individuals authenticity is. The most important thing is as opposed to society which destroys is authenticity. Then that becomes sexual The market assad holds a very powerful philosophical place. He was a man who spent something like ten years in prison They thought he was a madman. It's a little unclear. How much of his sexual depravity. He actually carried out but he was accused of torturing you know his servants which wasn't weird. You were allowed to beat your servants at the time he this is. He's a figure of the french revolution. There is a myth mythological story that he was in the best deal and cried out to the people. Since we i started on my birthday the storm the best deal was the day before my birthday. That was mark the market decide. Who cried out said. Come and help us. They're killing us in here. And the mob came in strong of a steel starting the french revolution. I think that's not true. I think he'd been removed from the best deal before that but philosophy is often depicted as a kind of not he sense of you. Know what the british call slap and tickle. You're chasing your girlfriend around with a taffy snapping at aller. It is not that at all. It is vicious ugly chickening pornography mixed in with the philosophy that since there is no god. God god's nature since nature is cruel and destructive. we can be cruel and destructive and it is scene after scene of mostly men torturing women but sometimes women torturing women and sometimes women torturing men not in a way not in like fifty shades of grey whereas all kind of Pecan and and sort of underlying fun but brutally and sometimes homicide and originally originally. The market decide was considered just awful. Their own family tried to hide the fact that they were related to but time he became what they call the divine marquee and became a staple of leftist philosophy for his belief in freedom. From sexual restraint now. I have a personal history with the marquis decide. Which is that when in my progress toward christianity. I went into a period where i was an atheist and i'd never been an atheist because i felt felt if you don't know you don't know so i'm agnostic. Someone who does not know but there came a point when a psychiatrist saved my life. Operating under a system that was largely invented by freud was an intense atheist and i started to feel that in order just to have integrity. I should become an atheist. And i started to read a lot of atheist writing and when i read atheist writing of whether it's or anybody like that i always thought you know there's something fake about this. There's something they're not really actually reasoning their atheism to its degree until i got to the market assad and when i saw the mark he decided he said this is what our nature is. This is how we should behave. I thought yes that is. He is right. This is the only guy who is logically following atheism to its conclusion in his pictures of the strong absolutely terrorizing the week. For pleasure right. The strong terrorizing the week for pleasure. That i thought this. Hell this is hell and in my journey toward god the only leap of faith i ever made the only thing actually took me away from logic was when i look at this and i thought no my whole heart rebels against this vision of humanity. I just believe that if you torture somebody for your personal pleasure. You are doing something wrong. Whenever anybody tells me. I sometimes have this argument with the god king. You've heard us having it on the back. Save everybody sells. There's no objective morality. I always think coming at this from the wrong direction if somebody curb stomps a toddler for pleasure. That is going to be immoral every single day of the week twice on sunday. If everybody on earth believes it to be right it will still be wrong. There is such a thing as objective. Morality so i turned away from the market assad and that began. That was the turning point of my life where i started to make a journey back toward belief in god but the what i wanna point out that the marquee in our culture always exist as this kind of witty interesting Naughty philosopher in if you ever play if you're a gamer and you play assassin's creed. There is a necessity that takes place during the french revolution. A he appears there as a voice for freedom to cut nineteen. I feel it my sovereign duty eight all those who suffered in cruelest bondage with me at the best team and i have a vested interest in seeing the king of rats in a trap as to my name i have the pleasure of being goodness ya knock keita's so we see him as a voice against the king he wants vengeance for being in the best deal. St and as voice for justice which is what he becomes he becomes in the sky. Harav figure but let's listen to what some of the philosophy that actually comes from one of his books. I think i took this from philosophy in the bedroom again. His books is very hard to recommend his books because they are filled with nauseating pornography and it is not. It's not pornography that you will sit there and go like. Wow that really turns me on or if it does turn you on you call psychiatrist directly because it is truly brutal. I can't even describe it. It's so brutal in his cruelties. It here's what the philosopher says in philosophy in the bedroom. He says in order that what serves one by harming another. Be a crime one. Should i have to demonstrate that the injured person is more important more precious to nature than the person who performs the injury and serves her now all individuals being of uniform importance in her eyes. Nature's is it's impossible that nature should have a predilection for someone among them. Hence the d. that serves one person by causing suffering to another is a perfect indifference to nature. Which is no doubt true it is in nature is indifferent. Nature is not our friend. Nature is indifferent to the suffering of the week. It's indifferent to the cruelty that people commit to one another. But here he saying if people are equal if all men are created equal then one who is stronger than another naturally has the right to hurt the other person's he's not actually putting forward the idea of freedom he's putting forth the idea of equality and twisting it to mean that because nature doesn't care one wit more for a king then in nature cares for a beggar if the king can torment the bigger. He's perfectly within his rights to do so so you know. It's just fascinating to me to hear. Intellectuals defended the sky as basically a voice for freedom. so if you're a crazy paranoid right-winger and that's only people who listen to the show. 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They're missing the whole history of the of the modern world has cut twenty feminists who are hostile to saad are hostile to the entire modern experience because in dismissing saad. You missing everything that darwin and freud also said that is the idea that we are innately a massive beings that we are born not necessarily bad. But with an impulse toward egotistical Dominance well it is true that both freud and Well i don't know about darwin like a store when you could extrapolate that from darwin that they said those things what i think pilots missing there is that saad says these are good things. These are positive things and this is the way we should go before. I wouldn't have said that at all. He would have thought that was psychotic. And darwin wasn't making moral judgments at all he was simply describing how nature works. The problem is the missing piece. The missing pieces god. The missing pieces got you cannot have immoral universe without a an apps absolute morality. You can have something be morally better than something else unless there is something that is morally good and there was none of us was good not one but our idea of god is that goodness toward which we move toward which we we are built our nature. Our nature alone is not our guide our nature when we guide that nature in a certain direction becomes our guide and with camille. Paglia saying is right that feminists who oppose pornography are in fact opposing. The entire panoply of of modern thought. That is what i did. When i turned away from saad i turned away from that path. Which i believe is the pack to decadence. You see this again. I mean it's really interesting. There's a play called quills. It was made into a movie in two thousand with the market. Assad in prison is smuggling out his books and he was. The market was played by geoffrey rush. Walking phoenix played a priest. Who is running this insane asylum and helps him get his books out. Menace shocked to find out what he's saying. Here is the scene between the two of them. And i to say that while the marquee comes off very well in quills does have a certain is somewhat more complex depiction of him. Then you get in other places on not completely knocking the play but this is the scene where he is lording it over this priest who it like all priests in all movies. All the time is shown to be small minded neurotic and kind of pinched in his beliefs. Nothing but the very worst man's nature. I write the great eternal truths that bind together all mankind. The whole world over we eat we. We've we kill and we die but we also fall in love we build cities we compose symphonies and we india. Why not put that books as well. It's a fiction not immoral. Jesus but isn't that the duty of art to elevators above the beast. I'd have thought that was your duty. Abby not mine now that's an interesting exchange because it's actually is completely off. The the point that his works of fiction are not works of fiction. They are works of philosophy. They put forward a way of looking at the world. That is in my view psychotic and the one thing that the scene does get right though is he gets right that the war that saad is waging is against god. The war that saad is waging is against god. Same thing's true freud darwin not so much. Darwin lost his faith not because of his science. He lost his faith because of his personal life. But but freud and many of the french theorists and met much of the enlightenment were actually waging war. God here's what saad says about god. He said god that abominable phantom is of no use to the terrestrial scheme and would infallibly be injurious to it since the will of god would have to be just and should never be able to ally itself to the essential injustices decreed by nature since he would constantly have to will the good while nature must desire it only as compensation and this the the french philosophers and the philosophers of deconstruction on the philosophers of of critical theory have adopted this point of view. I just reread a book by. Phooko is famous book the order of things. He says here's what he says. He says the animal appears as the bearer of death to which it is at the same time subjected it contains a perpetual devouring of life by love. It kills because it lives. Animals kill because they live nature can no longer be good that life can no longer be separated murder nature from the desires from anti nature. Saad proclaim to the eighteenth century whose language he reigned dry to dry into the modern age. Which has for so long attempted to stifle his voice so he saying that nature is what we have to follow and in who is probably the ruling philosopher of our day. The man whose ideas underlie so much of the critical theory. You're hearing foco believed that everything was a constructive power. That everything is justice morpheus idea but we the powerful use power to impose their moral systems and those moral systems have to be destroyed because they were put in place to create the slavery that you are you and i are in under the power and it's interesting to me that through co wasn't fact a masochist. He was in fact somebody who liked to be tormented Sexually he a homosexual and that was that was he was living the life in some ways that saad recommended and said the ultimate pleasure for him would be death and so so the idea that things are natural. I've never. I've never liked this idea here. Conservative say sometimes that we're not defending the male and the female because it's natural. I'm not defending things in our lives. Because their natural and in fact if scientists since we are part of nature of signs at some point came along could actually transform a man into a woman. I would have to recalibrate. where we're doing. I would say well now you have a choice at least to make which you didn't have before now. What my problem with the dishonesty of it. Not with the idea of it. I can understand that somebody might prefer to be of the other sex but but as we are now as we are now this idea that something. There's something essential in inside us. That is our nature that nature needs to come out and be on its own be what it is is to me the path to the decadence that were in in fact if we do not have a northstar toward which we're moving toward which that nature is moving if we do not have a vine of which we are a branch we are lost souls and i'm looking at the world right now and i am not in despair in the least. I think this may be another small time of decadence. They can turn around just like the time when new york burned down just like the time when america was waiting on lines forever just like so many times in history. When things have gone wrong. I think america can turn around right now. But i'm telling you i'm telling you that it is a question of taking up your cross and following the one the one thing that will take you who you really are. Which is the light of god and the courage takes to walk in his way. You know you have to diversify your portfolio and one way you wanted to i. Five is with gold. 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I've been watching what's going on in our country and it seems to me i've been kind of describing it as a moment of moral panic and it seems to be a moral panic the centers among other things on race and it reminds me of things. I've read about the mccarthy era. the witch hunts. i'm wondering if you think there is truth in that description and if you think there's truth in that description scripture why is happening now is easy question. I think it. I think if you look at the span of american history In the sixties that that racial tension that had always been really at the heart of american license culture came to a head and it transformed and introduced along with the principles of democracy. The constitution the bill of rights. Not it introduced morality as a source of entitlement. Our rights You you had to be somehow on the side of the good and it. In one of the things we've done is make that a source of power in in society. You can't when i was coming along you grew up. your identity. Became your identity today growing up you you have to somehow moralize you define yourself in a way in which you are on the side of virtue on the side of the good And it's it's I i think the polarization much of the polarization that we see today in america is between the sort of traditional way of growing maturing become a being a member of a free democratic society on the one hand and on the other hand this coach for moral for a virtuous identity virtuous way of being in the world that is above race and race is the issue that that all of this it seems to me pivots on but why i it does seem i. I'm not saying that everything's great between the races. I i've never heard of any place where everything was great between the race but it seems that i'm old enough to remember as you are things being much much worse than they are. If if things have gotten this much better why should there suddenly be this upsurge of panic now. I don't think it's a real pinch. Right we. I remember one. It was. I grew up In the fifties in the sixties and On the south side of chicago and when race was it was a ferocious Every aspect of your life was was determined by what your race was and so forth where you could live what were you could eat on and on And the protest movement started slowly built. And finally i think achieved great success Today you know. we're we're sort of. We're we don't know what to do. We don't know how to really define ourselves how to put ourselves plantar cells in in in the world and so we're we're we're at least at this moment. I think we're a little bit lost. Not sure that question but while it. I mean it's a question that of Of not knowing where your identity lies. I guess and then seizing on something to try and establish it You've talked about critical race. Theory said it's currency with which whites can buy innocence marketplace and a currency which blacks and other minorities can exercise power in the political arena. What struck me about that description is it doesn't describe it as a as something that can help anybody. It believe that there is anything positive and critical reysen at believe it's an absolute one hundred percent negatives is it's it's It's an illness. It's a sad tragic leftover of the ugliest part about history. It's it's duplicates believe me. No slave owner. No southern segregationists could articulate white supremacy better than the than the critical race theorists. Do the five better at more nuanced and and elaborate in there And then there's definitely a sense of blackened title at this time around They duplicate the long to be like the the white supremacists the of the past and they're exercising that night they're exercising that kind of power within iron students As we speak. I mean the the corporations universities the entire education establishment are enthralled to these people and enter. This blatant retreat is collapse into racism as a as a sort of means by which we we attack races. You i mean you had you had this film. What killed michael brown which i have to admit. I have not had a chance to watch it. Though i will and at first the amazon wouldn't show it. Why or why or corporations so bought into this. I mean they does this help. Them thrive in some way. Is it good for operation staff this race theory and to basically shut down. I mean all all you were doing was taking an honest with your son. Eli who made the film with you. You were taking a look at the michael brown. Killing why is that anathema to a corporate entity like because amazon another corporate corporations want to dissociate themselves from america's fast and in doing that in condemning america and separating themselves from it they gain our. They gain this tablets. They're innocent this tabloidish racial innocence to their brand. They're trying to make amazon. Not just a huge vast corporation but a vast corporation for working for the good and all the more reason why you should deal byproducts eleven so forth and so on so it is. It's a cynical cynical business move in in the in the larger sense It it's University started this and now again one institution after another Black lives matter. Basically offers this served in premature of innocence to sell it. The middle class white america support us support all of the The critical race ideas. We have As a way of showing you are not racist and the tragedy. Is that waste by this. And this gums white guilt where they're terrified of being seen as a racist and so they go along with things that destroy the great principles that have made america that made america great in the first place and that also ended up freeing slaves and giving blacks free so it undermines The great achievements of the civil rights. Aaron on so forth sad sad moment and racially district. It it really seen it. I'm glad to hear you say it because it really has seemed like this to me. And sometimes i feel like i'm talking. I'm talking to myself. But i i've read. I've read all your books. I think it's in the book a shame. You tell this absolutely devastating story where the captain of the swim team in high school and suddenly found out almost by accident. That everybody in the swim to you. The only black member of the swim team and all the white players have been invited to spend weeks with your coach at at his lake house. And you had just been left out and it's an especially devastating story knowing who you are now knowing you're one of the premier intellectuals in the country and you just kind of read the story and like wow that that's that's such a terrible way for us to treat one another when you hear people now complaining you know i mean i feel for this basketball player say who has a pulled over and mistreated by the police and feels like you know how. How wealthy do i have to become famous. Do i have to become before people leave me alone. Do you feel that. This is still a problem. This kind of off handed treatment of people when people complain about the police. It is there something that a white guy doesn't understand when he hears about this Not at all. It is bogus Again i've all my life is a black male In the united states american parts of the country and It's is bogus. I've been stopped. I had my share. Police stops tickets and so forth I've never been in any way Accosted my race by a white police officer in the united states of america. The thing that is most fascinating that people forget today is that since the nineteen sixties white america has made a greater moral leap forward in. Its racial sensibilities its commitment to racial fairness and and open-mindedness in any society. And you history. This is simply not the america. I grew up in. It is vastly better I can't do anything i want to do. I can become anything. I wanna become. I have never the problem that we as black stabbed. Today's what i call the shock of freedom. Watch out that you that you get what you asked for. We got three. We got freedom now. It is on us to take it to use it to make it a part of our lives to take advantage of it to be thankful for But freedom scares you if you you come from. A group spent a press for centuries and doesn't really have in many ways developed the principles the cultural norms. You need in order to succeed in free so that is our problem. I promise not racist cops. Problem is that we don't yet know fully. We haven't organized themselves culturally to take advantage of the of the incredible freedom. We now enjoy in in in this society Most americans today in if my experience is any indication actually root for black people wishes well in overcoming what was obviously a horrific pats Most people are wanting to have my adult life again have goodwill and wish that wish the best we on the other hand has blacks. Wham freedom makes you responsible for yourself. Freedom puts a burden on you. It is it is as Said great french philosopher anguish. You have to choose you have to make decisions. You have to prepare yourself. You have to try to anticipate the to you. You're responsible for your fate that entirely responsible. Well when we were under the thumb of segregation and slavery. We weren't responsible for destiny the finish in of Of of compression. To take that away from you we have it now but were skits scares anybody who would come from that background. Where we're we're we're we have kind of deprivation. We have to overcome that. Become effective in in a free society filed by. You know you you wrote recently. I think i'm pretty sure it was in the wall street journal. You wrote you said who are we without the malice of racism. Can we be black without being victims. Which struck me as a deeply. Profound question in some ways is the question of any persecuted. Group that is that wants to assimilate it seemed to me that assimilation was actually well underway. I mean you looked at looked to the musical hamilton. And i thought here's somebody embracing the history of a country that didn't always embrace him and yet there's now this this incredible reaction is it. Is this fear of losing blackness without victims. Can you be black without being victim. I i'd like to ask you the question. yes my focus on being black is is on overcoming. I'm proud of being black. Because my people overcame for centuries of oppression to get here no mean I'm very proud of that. Many of the black leaders today on the other hand cling to the idea of us as victims because we can use that against the largest society. We can say you're still racing. See you are always racist then you you continue to be and therefore my victimization is also my entitlement. You only and so. We feel as blacks. That's not really our only source of power. In american life is victimization. And so we have this terrible irony. We embrace our victimization as though is the essence of blackness You couldn't have a worse thing to identify to to build your identity out of than the idea of yourself as a victim and you asked this on to your children as though you're proud we don't we don't pass on an idea of blackness as overcoming as as the taking responsibility as assuming taking one's in one's own hands. That's i like people. Like duke ellington The also really jazzed. Who made himself out of nothing into one of the greatest composers of the twentieth century. Ralph ellison the greatest wrote the greatest american novel of the twentieth century embezzlement on these are people who for nothing. Stop them they prevail. That's the black identity to me. The but what we what we hear about all the time again is that were behind in every walk of lives and We're we're we. We continue to be victimized bites a now systemic racism that's supposed to be like a cloud around everywhere No we we we've got. We've got to meet the challenge. History has given us take take responsibility for our freedom and do something with it. I have to say one of the most shocking scenes. I have ever read. Is the scene in tunnel. Easy coach book where he says that his son he passes victimhood onto his son. I thought i would. I would put a bullet my foot before. I said that to my kid now. Why why did the election. Well i should put it this way and it seems to me that the election of barack obama shut us back in some way. Do you think that's true. And if so why because he was elected only because he was black he wasn't he wasn't elected because he was presidential material because he had some sterling resume that that would lift him as young age in the white house. None of that was in play. He was is achievements. Were virtually nothing. he was articulate but he never said anything of substance He was he was an empty suit in the in the classic sense but he was an opportunity for white america. This white america. So little with shane over its history that they any any black who could sort of halfway platts strength. Three words together is fine and so america was i had people. I wrote a book on obama at people in the book to it will come up. Some agrees got problems. But i don't want my grandson to think. I did not vote for the first black president. Now well that's why dilts that's when your motivation is not black people that development you a motivation is your own innocence racism. Why why did they. Long for an innocence of racism. More than anything else They feel compromised by a lack of it And and so the tragedy is they need to exploit blacks all over again but this time as victims that they can say that they can redeem. That can bring them out of their long tunnel documents and be all better foreign win. Win backs at marlet. Sorry that's a. They lost back in the sixties. Shall we say. I got i got. I gotta stop there. I i love talking to you. I hope you will come back. I also hope my one complaint about your career is you don't write enough. I hope you'll write more but if you're not gonna write more just come back and talk some more. It was great talking to you. And i appreciate your coming on low. Thank you very much appreciate coming. Thanks a lot all right. To begin our climb out of decadence. It is time now for the mailbox. If you hold near and dear to you that you like to be able to. We should have joe to do the mailbag to answer all your questions with a rambling thing that just trails off into nothingness. All right from chandler Dear cleveland keeper of the realm of old guys. I just eighteen. And i am a christian. I was recently thinking. About god's nature and logic i know that omnipotence is usually defined by christians as anything that can be logically done with this in mind. Why can't god sin. I know the response would be because it's logically impossible for morally perfect and unchangeable being to send understand that but doesn't the fact that he even has this nature contradict with his omniscience. How can one be able to logically do anything but have his own nature. Keep him from doing certain things. This has been bothering me for months and has truly made me worried that god might not exist. But i keep getting the same answers online. That don't quite answer my question Gentler you're eighteen years old. So i don't wanna i don't wanna give you too hard at time but i want you to note before i even talk about the actual substance of your question that your premise is that god may not exist. Because you can't understand it and that's from premise. Is not gonna you know that's not. There's almost like an. It's almost like you're trying too hard to prove yourself that god doesn't exist because got a god does exist. That's the one thing the other thing is. You can't understand him you're right you can't understand it is one thing. It's one thing to question god's existence because the world is a hard place and to say that this is a hard place and now i'm angry with god's went casting out of his existence you know because because you have the power to do that but but to say i can't understand something about this being who is the basis of your life and is above even time we. How do you even understand that. Even time this is why by the way these questions never bothered me. They don't bother me because my question is what am i supposed to do. What am i supposed to do not what he's supposed to do he's going take care of what he's supposed to swear. Never worry about the end of days. You know people say. Do you think it's the end of this. Is actually in the bible that i don't know the reason i don't worry about. It is because i understand that he is in control of those things. That's where this is pride to worry about it as bride to worry about the things that are his job. He hasn't called you and asked for your opinion. He hasn't called me for my opinion. He's got that under control. But i don't understand why it is a logical difficulty to say that someone can do something but has a nature such that. He won't do something i mean. We've talked about curb stomping toddlers. I could do that. I have the power to do that. I might even get away with doing it and not be punished for it. But i don't do it because it's not my nature what you were talking about. God you're talking about is nothing is nothing with no nature and the logical. Bit your chafing against us that if he has a nature and therefore wouldn't do something then is he not omnipotent a misuse of the word omnipotent. It's also a misuse of logic itself. Because you are basically talking nonsense. It's like the question. Can god make a rock to heavy so heavy that he can't lift it. It's just a nonsense question. And just because language is capable of forming nonsense sentences. that doesn't make them any less nonsense. Cs lewis said just because you put the word god into a skin. It's nonsense doesn't stop it from being nonsense so that's really what you're dealing with. You're saying well. Is you nip it into a nature. Such that he wouldn't do something Yes yes and our that. Our words can't fully describe him. There are logic can't fully comprehend him just going to have live with that buddy because that is the actual facts on the ground. You've probably can't understand quantum physics either but that doesn't mean the quantum physics isn't true and so you know i get it. I get that you want to understand what's going on but really what. You should be a lot harder understanding what your role is in a world with a god in it because he is there from alex cleveland. I watched an see clip a few days ago. So i'm hoping the few brain cells. I have left will survive a. I'm in a very amazing spot early in my career but i want to earn an mba from top university. So i can grow and have doors is really exciting because i crave adventure and challenge but at the same time i like stability. I'm single in my mid twenties. And most of all i want to start a family and your life is holding american emperor. How did you balance chasing your dream family and all the other joys in life. thanks vance piece of christ. Be with you alex. Well there is no perfect balance. But i made sure i mean. I was obsessively ambitious a obsessively. Hard worker obsessively hard worker to this very day. I have to force myself to take time off. But i never I always had time for my wife and my children. You know the one thing that you will find in life is that the deadlines of work are more difficult more inflexible than the deadlines of family your family. You can always call your wife and say you know. I can't get home for dinner but you can always call your boss and say i can't hit that deadline so you have to make those headlines. You have to make sure that those deadlines are as inflexible as your work deadlines because family requires time. It is not something you can do in your spare time at. It's something you have to commit yourself to as you commit yourself to your work and then then you have to make the balance. That's right for you. They're all kinds of things that happen. You know you might have fewer kids than you would have had which you regret later because you say well i'm working or i don't want to be distracted and then you'll regret later. There are all kinds of payoffs. Nothing is free. Nothing's free at all and you know even i. I've always had a sort of taste for adventure and avoid taking time off to do the things that That fed that like going to exciting places overseas Learning to fly a plane getting karate black belt doing all those things that gave me adventure but it does. When you're married. It is more difficult to do that because You know your wife actually wants you to come home and without a bullet in you know I always Always tell the story about my wife. And i went to afghanistan. She just was went into denial. She just didn't think about it. And then i came home in the night i came home. I had a glass of wine. While watching a basketball game fell asleep on the couch and i woke up and she was screaming shaking me and screaming at me because she thought i died. Because of course the denial had backed up honor and all of those worries came to the fore. I thought you were dead. So you're you're anything you commit yourself to anything you can commit yourself to comes at a price so your work is gonna come at a price and your family is gonna come at a price and all those things are gonna come in price. You do have time for a good career great career fantastic and your family but you gotta make sure it happens. You've got you gotta make sure it happens. You've got to put those deadlines on there. I'm going to stop a little early. On the mailbag. Because i want to do a quick stuff. I like segment about a game. I played at the suggestion of my son. Spencer cleveland no relation. There is a game that has been. It's been around for a while. But i just never saw before it's called gora gola. It is an award winning a puzzle video game and the reason. I bring it up first of all. It's a fantastic beautiful game. Is spencer my both readers. Little too mysterious is very hard to follow the plot or understand the plot but it is just absolutely beautiful. I hope they're playing a little bit of it. So if you're watching you can see the trailer playing in the background. It's just an absolutely gorgeous game puzzle game where you move around there four panels and you move them around and try and fit them together in the right way to get the the story such as it is to unfold the reason i bring this up though so important first of all you should get it. It's i i played it on i. Patacas five bucks and his short so even though it's really really addictive it's like opium. It's incredibly addictive. It only takes about two three hours to get through so it will destroy your life. Utterly the reason i brought it up is because it is no kidding. A work of art. And i was thinking. Wow one day when they get these in the three d. oculus things and you're playing this game like this instead of just a twitch game you're playing a game like this oculus key and this is going to be an actual new form of art. The reason i bring it up. Is this the art of painting. The art of painting is dead right. I mean when you look at modern art. it is bad jackson. Pollock all these blank. Things are still abstraction. it's it does not feed the soul it does not feed the spirit and yet and yet if someone were to save you. Oh but art. That art will come back in the form video games in the form of puzzle video games. That one day may become three actually surround you and suck you into this incredible Luscious world. you might not have believed that if you hadn't ever seen a video game before he hadn't heard that or you hadn't didn't believe the technology was possible. Painting became a decadent art form really with the invention of the camera. But it is coming back. It is coming back and this computerized form you never know. You never know whether something is going to die or whether it has just been buried in the ground for a few days before it is resurrected. 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4/14/21 - Hour 2 - Yankee Fans Finding Balance, Former Mets Prospering, Bitcoin Spike, An Update, Getting Back Into The Studio And A Call From Larry In Brooklyn

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4/14/21 - Hour 2 - Yankee Fans Finding Balance, Former Mets Prospering, Bitcoin Spike, An Update, Getting Back Into The Studio And A Call From Larry In Brooklyn

"Love sports love. Culture will have a brand new podcast called take line hosted by me jason concepcion and two-time wnba champion renee montgomery and the games so the players to the issues happening both on and off the court will be tackling. The important political and social issues happening sports had on new episodes. Drop every tuesday so listening. Subscribe on odyssey. Wherever you get your podcasts. Are you ready to meet the moment ozzy and our friends at chevrolet proud to present real talk real change to help foster racial equality in america. And we're inviting you to help join the carlos watson. I talked with key leaders from across the country about racial disparities in america's healthcare system. Look for the carlos watson show and real talk real change on youtube and subscribe or download the carlos watson show wherever you get your podcast. There's this whole balance between freaking out over the yankees and then saying that it's too early and there is no right answer because the way that they're playing right now you are upset. You are annoyed. You are frustrated and you think that hell i mean. This team keeps playing in the manner that they have and by the way what the red sox have won seven straight and they keep playing like this and this is who they are and you know that you feel like injuries are coming. You feel like the staff isn't good enough and you feel like they get into the postseason and they can't hit so i mean it's not too when people say it's early. I can't argue that. It is early but when you're seeing the same things that you have seen in the postseason the last couple of years that's why fans freak out. It's not if this team had a track record if they had just won a world series where they had gotten to the world series and they went to the seven game and it was a great game and you know the team was great and they didn't struggle at all in the regular season the last couple of years. Whatever you'd say right they'll figure it out but the problem is they essentially brought back the same exact team. The staff reason as by the way james paxton out for the year. I don't know if you saw that. So he's the tommy. John surgery right now. He's not pitcher for the yankees. I well obviously. I would say it would be tanaka. You missing home missing him. But i was just saying because james paxton was someone would they bring them back where they not bring them back they decided not to and then he goes and as he's out for ear at surgery obviously is not there anymore. But if you take the issues that they have they get magnified because fans are afraid that this is what team is going to be when it really counts. Well and again severino coming back halfway through the season so i do think the mingo herman will get better you know. He hasn't pitching a long time. So he'll get better too. But yeah if you had to talk about all the deficiencies that the yankees are dealing with. Now or i won't say all the deficiencies the deficiencies that they're dealing with right now. Starting pitching scott to be at the top of the list. Timely hittings gotta be second. Gary says like a lightning rod. No matter what he does last night he gets caught in a rundown and basically kind of diffuses in inning. Well think about it. I mean eighth-inning one out. Aaron hicks zoff. Who's got the two hits already at that point. Maybe even three hits already at that point and you got the tying run at the plate. You finally fought back was six. Nothing you got back to six three. And then gary sanchez and this situation. Of course just gets caught my numbing it. I mean it's just it's it's pure insanity and i mean that that to the fact that you know they have gotten a big hit in on wasn't great and and this is what you got. I mean it's just as i mean just i mean what are you doing where are you. Where are you gary sanchez. But no the and the reason why. I think that that yankee fans the anxiety is where it is right now is also you know. We're not used to having a full season. You gary sent chances defense. There was hesitates to who lemay on in front of him. Who's in front him. I think it was lemay you yeah. He hesitated to the thing is i. Guess if i'm gary sanchez. The only thing that i guess you gotta think about is look. I'm gary sanchez. i'm not that fast. I'm going to stay close to first base no matter what happens if the ball goes really past. The catcher goes all the way to the backs to think about this. So the score. It's six to three tying run at the all the more reason to stay with you first second at that point exactly so why you moving. You know that's relied again but just to give a little bit of context of what's happening. Lemay you hesitates to in front of them. Okay well he. Just the god can't catch a break just cannot answer for. I don't know what it is that i you know i was like you. Make your own breaks. You know you make whatever happens. Sometimes you know your your effort and the other thing you know earlier in the season. He loves out of the box on a ball that he hits hard. He thinks it's going to be caught and it's not just like things like that. Continue to happen to him and like last night. Continue to happen to him. So i know yankee be frustrated with that although that just one play in the body of the game where other players had opportunities didn't come through either so as i mentioned you know the yankees they move on from a guy like james of having tommy john surgery. The mets had one lucky situation where we don't know how it's gonna work out. They didn't end up getting george springer. He's at an oblique and quad so far. But there are two guys That the mets moved on from that early on it is it's crazy to think about one is jed lowrie so jed larry's starting he's playing every day what does he hit over three hundred in another home run. We didn't know he knew how to play baseball. We never i mean we saw him for all of what i mean. It was less than here for two years. I know but he was less than twenty five at bats has to be the mets. Dj lemay you. Yeah but and now here he is doing what he's doing with the as with the a starting second baseman hitting three hundred another homerun last night. Jed larry and the other one is. I mean is this. Is this true. That wilson ramos. How many home runs you. Think wilson ramos says three. I'm pretty sure. Wilson ramos has six home runs already. I'm i'm pretty sure he's got six home. Runs or about. Stephen matt's he had two good starts that he start again had already started out with two good starts toronto. That's i don't remember. I look i want all those guys do well. Okay yeah i don't do. You really blows. Jed larry two guys a feet. The guy would got hurt man. He says nothing you can do when you get hurt very when you are hurt your hurt and that's all there is to it. Oh out twin cities. I don't consider an athlete who is hurt thieving not out for his fief up. He's not a fever larceny. That's what's going on here. You could over the you could root for thieves. All you want not me. You know what. I'm just happy that indoors on this team. He's he's the energizer bunny. Stroman has been the energizer. Bunny the last two His last two outings teams need. They need that especially through one hundred and sixty two season. And where is that coming from right now at the yankees one. There's one guy who is a spark plug but unfortunately pitches once every fifty. Well i thought ruggerio door at the backflip. No matter what he does a backflip right realize that it l. He came through twice now. I know already but grumble the second bachelor. I don't mind it. I i love it. I love that type of stuff. greg's in new jersey. What's going on greg. I'm going to be the first to call for aaron bruins head. No congratulations there. We go so first one of this season market down. Where are we fourteenth. Do you have a replacement in mind. No no i. And i was thinking about overnight. I who who who they come replace. We need somebody. That's gonna put a fire in the belly of these players and the hitting coach. What what is this guy doing. Well let me tell you if you look at tampa bay when they get up there. They're ready to hit their aggressive at the plate. We're sitting there watching balls. Go down the middle and we'd get into three and two counts fake deal. Hit the ball yet. So greg there is absolutely no way in hell. The yankees fire aaron boone during the season especially after he just had a pacemaker. Put in on top of it and the players the outpouring of emotion for their guy to make sure he was all right. I mean they long now. Part of the reason why aaron boone was hired was because he was like the relaxed dude. He wasn't going to you. Know in the dugout. Like all anxiety and grinding into dos with his hands. Like joe girardi. So there's just there's just no way let's face it. Joe girardi you know got swept into double header last night. Oh yeah that's right. So that's that's i mean baseball. It's baseball susan. You know that it is. They still have one hundred and fifty games ago. Anthony in rockaway. What's going on anthony. What's up boomer. What's up what's happening. But then i got. I got a bone to pick with jail with me. Okay all right. This whole jed lowrie the days are we stop stole from the mets entity. Are you a mets fan. You're here thing you you know what anthony. You should be offended that this guy came here and stole from the organization surgery. Come on yeah well. I mean but it seemed like that he come back and then the ne- would hurt him again and he disappeared. I mean it was just a horrendous signing listed. Obviously part of as being facetious here anthony. I understand that iran. It's bad luck but my god. How do you go from not being able to walk. Twenty five at bats with an organization for two years and then basically being an all story. He's had two years of of rehab. That's why yeah. While the mets paying him again i could not look if aaron judge pulls an oblique or whatever. I could be frustrating. But i can't get angry at a guy that gets injured. I just can't. i'm sorry it's just part of the but you know this wasn't like he broke his leg and this wasn't alex smith he was one little thing after another and then he came back and then he was gone and he was back in the. We didn't hear from them for months and months and months it was not like some sort of massive injury where you're like alright i get it. Sounds like a thirty thirty for me. Jen thirty for thirty. Yeah there might be one. There might think about how lonely his days must have been when he was injured and couldn't play god. I don't know what what is. What is wrong with you. i would say. I don't know let's say you had laryngitis for on year and a half happen but like i don't think jed lowrie thought it was going to happen to him so let's just say you had jobs for a year and a half and you and you and you still got paid. But you didn't come to work. Would not i would like to hear hearsay volk comparison company. Because you're not working. They would never first of all they never pay no. He got sick now sick. Let's say you had like a pop or something removed from your voice box or something like that. Number is what happened with sam. Wish he had a polyp removed and they accidentally cut the vocal chords any kind of lost his voice so therefore he lost his tv job. I mean th they would make me come in here and have one of those things around tearing to my throat. One of those things mine from foreign stone like they come in. We're paying you. you're coming in. That's what would happen. I writing stuff down and having somebody read it. No they wouldn't get a courts. The niagara free. I mean like you say that but they let al stay for a year. He was working on it. Really stay home working. You're acting as if they don't have any feelings well. Ninety eight percent of the company's still home. Yeah right they have feelings well they also are afraid of liability issues and all of those things. Nobody what's liability issue. I asked them. I'm not the one making a roles. You not eating a chicken niblett again. Are you boneless buffalo wings. Boomer love sports love culture. Lafayette a brand new. Podcast called take line. Who stood by me. Jason concepcion and two-time wnba champion renee on gumri in the game so the players to the issues happening both on and off the court will be tackling the important political and social issues happening in sports head on new episodes every tuesday. So listen and subscribe on odyssey or wherever you get your podcast. The morning show with boomer esiason in gregg giannotti boomer and geo. I got my bitcoin sweatshirt on today because it is going nuts now. It's almost at sixty five thousand dollars. I think it's because of this coin by no it's because of this coin base. Ipo that is happening today. So you crypto nerds out there. Get ready because it's common. It's not because of important. We sex tape. No it is not. He was actually. He was in and out of bitcoin. Quick so he lost out on that he got he had a meeting. With the winkle vaas twins on any was in and then they took a dip around thanksgiving and then he was out. Who's winkle vaas vaas. When's you never heard of the winkle boss twins. No ever see the facebook movie jerry. I have not okay. So that's where you would know about the window. Glass twins who actually played by that. Armie hammer who's accountable. So that's who played the week loss twins. Yeah armie hammer eats people. Yeah so so. The guy who in hollywood so allegedly a cannibal played the winkle. Vaas twins They're entrepreneurs They were in on the ground floor. Facebook and now they are big bitcoin. Bitcoin billionaires. I'm reading bitcoin. Billionaire winkle vaas twins so yeah coin base ipo under the name. c o. I n you gotta treat a year. I could be wrong about this. But you've gotta figure growing up that there were probably a lot of people that took shots at them because their name was winkled us. Yeah and now. They're shoving a write in those people's faces. Oh yeah billionaires bitches. That's right do anything. really young. The sat around investigation stuff trusted some people and now all of a sudden here we are and they went to harvard to the winkle twins did they. I believe so i guess they did. Something are jerry what's going on in sports lower brought to you by wall. Our painting design celebrating one hundred years. Visit wall our dot com slash one hundred. You've got a doubleheader sweep of the phillies. They take the first game four three and again. They had the early lead. Dominic smith with a two run homer. They wound up giving it away. Lost the lead and they were they trailed in extra innings. But pete alonzo came through with a game-tying rbi single with the free runner at second and then jonathan vr couple of hours later the game winning rbi single so they get the first one. Louise rojo's has impressed by that. Vr uneasy about him. And you have a chase fish for splitter against Near east and he fell he was wanting to and any chase and then he got two three two till you got his fastball. That he drove. So that yeah. I'm pretty good because You don't know what they're gonna do three two but he drove into left field. It ballgame over mets. When mets wins. I want walker four and a third innings. One run three hits eight strikeouts in a decision obviously didn't go five in Took extra innings to win then in the second game. How about vr again. Getting the mets often running line drive toward the gap in right center. And that's going to drop in for a base hit paisley. It's over a row. Third heading home as mcneil. He will score the throw comes into second not in time. It's a double for jonathan vr. And the vet strike first game number two lead one nothing with the way. Marcus stroman was pitching. It's all they needed. They would tack on three more. Thanks to brandon nimmo four. Nothing your final. And it's a mets doubleheader. Sweep nimmo vr. Getting to lead a huge. That just kind of. I could feel the dugout kind of take his side of relief that we've got a lead and let's see if we can expand on it. How about that. He's i of relief. He's so funny sound so happy all the time he's a spark plug guy is without a doubt. I mean and by the way everybody on the same page here with alvarado hidden conforto on purpose. Yes okay just make just making sure. Well i mean dom smith screaming at him and he was like just kind of you know shaking his checking them off. I come on. You'd think i wanna hit them at this stage of the game and all that other. Yeah you did. Because he put his elbow out to win a baseball game and that was against the marlins. Still though. i'm telling you tell me. The phillies are thrown out. Because he did what he did. Against the marlins i think so i think so. Yeah i think so. I'm not so sure. He was trying to hit them. But i definitely think he was throwing at him for purpose. Pitching means sending a message. Yeah i do i do. I think that was frowned upon in major league baseball. They didn't like it up in pitch that kind of thing. Eight take this. You wanna get hit. Here's endre miles. An hour on your shoulder. Yellen adam because it was up around the head or dangerous. It is danger then again. That's why he has that kind. Of how many anywhere you know the one that covers his jaw that that is correct. The one that giancarlo stanton has the where because he actually did break his face. Yeah so walker was good in the first game stroman. Even better in the second he wins six and he looks at the rotations. Pitch with our stuff. Man between pd tie lucchessi. Obviously carafe gone cindy coming back and obviously the best pitcher in baseball. I i love our guys loves. There is the mets over. Five hundred and pd goes tonight. That's david peterson. Who will take on Wheelies zack wheeler former met They go at city. Field as for the yankees. Now i heard you guys discussing this play and so i went back and founded because clearly big part in the game yankees fall behind the blue jays. Six two nothing. They were trying to fight their way back. Not sure if they would have. But this certainly didn't help gets away and going to second. Base is gone is sanchez against tagged out. There was a short while bitch stanton went to third but sanchez went to second was driving. So i'd say that's a term way to end the inning so stanton second base yes then not lemay. Even moving for anyway runs at the plate. There's no reason. I mean unless that boy the no doubter i think if he actually just runs he gets there. Maybe but you got to remember the reason he s. The reason he held up was because stanton held up that's why he was running and then he saw stanton stop then he stopped. And that's what that's what caused an aaron. Boone says you gotta have Be more heads up than that. It's important obviously not to run. Run off the guy in front of you but you just gotta be you know heads up in a better position to take advantage of that. I mean tying run at the plate. Counts to uh-huh two outs and you run yourself out of the inning. And now i'm looking at the replay. Again i mean sten- doesn't really stop. He has a tate's okay i mean. Has i hated man. Come on not enough to have a complete stop and turn around about. Just stay close to. I don't even think about running. I guess That boy was Was a good few feet away from the catcher. He could have got their easily. But whatever it's gary sanchez. He screwed up yankees seven. Three was the final rowdy. Tellas homered and hyun jin ryu six and two thirds innings. Just one run four. Hit seven strikeouts. He gets the win series finale this afternoon on the fan corey kluber. Ross stripling the starters. That a one five first pitch and must win game. Mother and wednesday must win the yankees. Get a day game streak and then and then when they reel off seventeen out of eighteen in may. We're going to be laughing at this. What if they don't this is the catalyst for an extended losing streak like us to discuss. This then dislike. Don't worry about it everybody there. I didn't say that's that's not what i said. That is not what i said. You ask the quote greg asked. The question must win wednesday. I don't yes. You can be concerned if it's must win. Then i guess we cancel the season if they lose. Yeah i think so. I think we're going to have to. Yeah just call g. stupid. No no not at all. It sounds like you said it was stupid. Well why said that. Yes the idea that. It's a must win win wednesday but it is a must win. Wednesday jerry takes that. It's not what the the ultimate must win. I guess is james. Game seven game seven or elimination game. Yeah the teams up series outside of that. There is no direct. If our yankee fan i to me this is the bus. I can't take what i'm watching. Yeah i'd be really frustrating if they lost again good thing you're at the ranger game last night. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah meantime where are they now. Nice little segment. I represent to you. Mr ghost man himself or thief. Whatever you wanna call him jed lowrie as he was here and never got on the field hit pretty well. The left centerfield. Babies dawn escape is tied. But this man is unbelievable. He was unbelievable. Unbelievable yeah to three run home. Run by gen. Our rate player come here. Don't get on the field. Go back great player. If he carries us through the rest of the season it would be even more shocking than the start. But i mean it's the this is the great the greatest example of met snake bitten crap than i. I mean this was. He was supposed to be our dj. Lemay who now to be our jacoby ellsbury and now he leaves does this every. It's it's insanity right. This would be like ellsberg going back to the red sox and all of a sudden hitting three fifty. Yeah exactly what. It is amazing. The as to beat the diamondbacks seven five. That was a three run homer for jed lowrie and then not that. This guy was a bad by any stretch. But you are right. Six home runs already. J. singing to fly ball to right. This one's this one's gotta chance home. Run number six for wilson. Rommel's fees shots to night two of them last night. Five and six tigers beat the astros eighty two so yes and by the way. Aj hinch back in houston and Not last night the night before was the first game back and i think he got a nice ovation from the astros crowd. All gonna play next and kevin mcreynolds goes out of retirement slam. Give me time after all. I do have something. But i don't have the highlight wilmer. Flores the tiebreaking. Sac fly an rbi. Giants beat the red seven six last night. That's true that is unbelievable and get hired to jeopardy to like justin turner a grand slam dodgers beat the rockies. Seven nothing actually. That's not true. But they did win seven nothing cory. Seager hit a home run and trevor. Bauer went seven and the red sox have won seven straight. They beat the twins four two. Yeah pretty wild the x. Mets sprinkled around the league in doing well. Good things jason bay for the cycle bow. That would close it out. Nets been the t. Wolves one twenty seven to ninety seven. Kevin durant had thirty one points in twenty seven minutes. he was eleven. Fifteen joe harris at five threes. He added twenty three Durant happy that they were able to get the game. Nba game happening. Postpone it and you know we come from nothing. So i'm glad we finish it off. And and now they go to philadelphia for a big showdown with the seventy sixers. Both teams thirty seven and seventeen atop the eastern now. Do you know of curry's playing tonight. Why don't think he the trip to minnesota. So unless he's going to drive himself to philadelphia. I i would think not but i don't know that for sure. How far is that. Drive to philly from brooklyn two hours then the eleven jersey though. I don't know where he lives okay. I'm not sure i'm not like ally. Don't go after applying celebres. What's that side. They're playing in denver. They're playing in philadelphia. Maybe he will be there. I don't know the i just know. He didn't make the trip. No update as to whether or not he's playing yet none. I haven't seen it. No okay and i will. If i could take the winkle voss twins out of my search year i will search kyrie irving and then on google will hit news. Let's now i didn't. I didn't see it either. So we'll see maybe we'll find out what was interesting about yesterday. Was the nba announced the minnesota game the game minnesota at around. I want to say it was ten thirty in the morning for a four o'clock start so they made that happen very quickly. Maybe kyri makes a decision very quickly. Today i don't know But that will be on the fan tonight. The knicks visit new orleans tonight in terms of the nixon their playoff race celtics won the heat. Lost hawks one and the pacers law. So you've got that. And the rangers shutout the devils three nothing a milestone night of sorts twenty thousand and rangers franchise history at several. Call them all. I mean anything not really to me. It was more about starting pitching a shutout and doing it now. In what essentially is the race to the playoffs. Any idea when you were in the building of the twenty ranger go. You know who did though. Sam rosen hated all over it. Yeah he was right on it. Absolutely great breakaway man. Kreider gotten to f- in kreider. Golly it's the race two points but so did the bruins. They beat the sabres in a shootout three two so the rangers remained four points behind boston. It was a two games in hand. The bruins have yes. She's starting at twenty seven. Saves for the shutout win and james conner no longer a steeler he goes to the arizona cardinals all right very good. Are we when jerry. Do you have any update on when you're being back in the studio with us twenty four no seriously. I don't know i talked about i. E mail mr olivero about that okay and he said we will reevaluate in may. I will be vaccinated at that point. I actually inquired yesterday. Because i set up an appointment to get my vaccine. Oh wow so. I asked windham fully vaccinated in an eddie is already fully vaccinated and were tested once a week on top of that. Yeah still masks still. Yeah oh the question is one. Is jerry allowed in here though. But it'd be the same thing based on that if he can maybe if he came back and wore a mask and then you would have to wear a mask. Is your everyone be asking man. Hold on a second. But we don't wear masks and we're apart they they're putting schoolkids three feet apart. I mean nobody knows. What's what the hell's going on anywhere. No I was getting the vaccine so i wouldn't have to wear a mask but i guess that's really the company stance. This is the company. Saying this. Or as a cdc company policy of the governor saying she said vaccinated people can be hanging out together into workflows. That we didn't need masks at all. So who knows Listen i think the companies taking the safe rather than sorry approach and. That's fine abundance of caution. Now i want jerry near here. Because it's all it's so weird stepping on each other and jerry. I can look g. I used to be able to look at jerry and say i want to say something and it's just impossible. I actually told my father the other day because he was asking some. I don't remember what but something about the show. And i said you would not believe how many days go by that. I physically do not see greg or boomer. Yeah no i know it's crazy even though you're thirty feet from me beyond the steel wall yep no i know because of the just the way it works and the you guys switching out a warm up show and then you want an update when we leave the studio and then our officers are back there. It's just it's insane. I can't believe you guys don't have asks on. That's what i mean right. This is what i'm saying. i don't understand. Yeah it's like you're right you just make up whatever rule you want for that day in the way we go. Yeah it's silly. But i will. I'm hoping jerry can get back in here by the way that's exactly what's going on. Yes every now no different than you know whatever. It's people do that all the time. Just make up whatever crap they want and move on your an office. Make it all up. I very good jerry. We'll talk to you next hour. Are you ready to meet the moment ozzy and our friends at chevrolet proud to present real talk real change to help foster racial equality in america. And we're inviting to help join the carlos watson. I talk with key leaders from across the country about racial disparities in america's healthcare system. Look for the carlos watson show in real talk real change on youtube and subscribe or download the carlos watson show for you. Get your podcast. It's the morning show with boomer esiason gregg giannotti boomerang zeal russell wilson and ciara or hosting a vaccination special that you said well if those two are behind it then i have to be behind it as well to know otherwise. I would have waited until sunday night when this airs. Oh yeah see. If i get it but believe me somebody who's been in this world for twenty seven years. I'm glad they're doing it. The more they do it. The more people they impact the better. It is for everybody in society. That's all no. I agree. I'm just using the al dukes like the last two people in the world that could convince al dukes. The get the vaccine would be russell wilson and sierras. Just having some fun with that. But i'm glad everybody's talking about it. I'm asking this question. Yeah so the johnson and johnson vaccine. They've they distributed in have injected six million people with it. Okay and there have been six. People that have had blood clot reactions. Six people at a six million that have had blood clot reactions now. They paused that. Johnson johnson vaccine slightly here now before they start. Administering it again. Okay so and again those six people that had these broadcasts i believe are women between the ages of eighteen and forty eight. Okay but it's only six out of six million people And but those six people obviously to i think has passed away from it and are the four may be dealing with other complications. But the numbers tell you that it's safe but still the significance of those six people and then media than running running out there with it. Sure is making the fda and the government kind of pause and just kind of figure out what's going on here and then getting going again well for example. If i were given the option. I would not get that one well given the option when i went i would. That was told it was pfizer. And i said okay. Great see he dom perignon of vaccine the the the thought process behind that is. It's easier to just to get one shot as the posters. Set yourself up for two shots within a three week period. So all i can tell you is that no matter what goes on in the world. There's always going to be complications with somebody somewhere along the way in regards to everything. And i just there pausing. That doesn't mean they're taking it off the shelf off the market. But they'll they'll they'll start redistributing and again i would imagine relatively soon okay all right. Very good Let's go to this. The larry in brooklyn like the one who found all our telephone numbers and was calling us all hours of the night and our family members Larry good morning yesterday. Larry how are you. Hi how you doing. I'm doing great larry. How's your health still in the hospital rehab for for been here three years i okay. You sound pretty good. You sound energetic. It sounds like you're getting better. Yeah but I'm excited about the mets deaf. Four three now and catching the phillies and But and craig colt and all apologies. How he says it's the same old matt. Does he all right. So we'll we'll reach out to crack in. Yeah we will know he's yankee fan now so we don't really worry about him now. Larry is real true core grown dyed-in-the-wool met fans and every rabbit's Lied lied to me over the radio city of a hundred million fans because he owes me bob. Only those eighth bobbleheads because my birthday does he and He didn't give me bobble heads for my lauren hanging there. Larry you know what role get on the phone and we'll get this resolved right now. He didn't do the podcast with me. And i the so. He's really lied multiple times. All right you know we'll do larry's we'll get this rectified for you. Don't hang up right. we'll put you on hold. We'll get evan on the air and then we'll put the two of us together and you can figure it out all right. I think that's the only way to do it. So given a call al please for me and get him on the air and tell them that there is a significant issue that we need resolve. Because we can't be having. Evan lied larry multiple times in guaranteeing things for him and not coming through. I mean i just think that's bobbleheads on his birthday. You know come through. You know you know you got craig upsetting met fans and now you have evan who is a met fan and maybe the biggest fan i know upsetting fans. Yeah that's what are they doing. I don't know it is tough. It's supposed to connect with the audience. I know i know. So larry basically saying carlton and the liar. That's where he's going in the afternoons. After the yankee game today between the nets games carlton and knew that craig was met fan. I kind of new orleans totally forgetting. Yeah right carl carlton and the disingenuous redhead afternoons on the fan in odyssey station. How many guests. That i have today. No they don't do guests. Yeah i think they have robust today. They do they do have guess told you there. Only on for a little bit of time i think again today about it. Yeah that's right away. That's why he's the he's the love poking fun at mike francesa but those for those days and now he's living the getaway day and then sent me right the voicemail. Oh how last night is that. The mets second game last two hours and thirty minutes beautiful. Seven innings is beautiful. Hey larry here. That that. Evan roberts gave al the fu button on his phone so he is ignoring us right now. Oh wow i know really bad. It's getting worse. I feel like we're getting treated like you're getting treated. Yes that's not right for any of. I just texted on the pill. I gave him the hotline bank. How ever since. Ever since. Joe left and evan roberts switch pot is due to the curb. Yeah he's chances change same guy. He's got huge head now. Walks around here like some star. Owns the place right. What word would you use to describe. Evan nowadays larry He he changed. Yeah obnoxious maybe yeah. And and the and the and the the the show changed. That's fine i the whole area. I love. I love the show. So i mean but it's going to change because you know he's partner right sea change can be. You know things can change and things can happen. Used the lead guy. Not but it's evans. Connection to the audience that i think larry things changing. Yeah so it has to the larry. Evan has no longer has a connection with the audience. Yeah i think. I think greg abbott. I think greg evan i think greg evan Should do should kim up. And i think i think I'm gonna stop you right there. Larry because that'd be a nightmare for me. Do you say. I think that he wants me to work with evans. So he can get back. And i love evan but he's just too much baseball guy. I mean you. You told me once you worked with and you said you wanted to kill yourself. I did yes i also worked at dog one day four hours. I used to work with dog on the westwood. One show on friday nights. I was fine because that was an hour. It was football sure and it was easy. It was good and he did a good job of setting me up and all that other stuff right. Well we're going to try to get to the bottom of this whole thing with with evan and larry alive on the air. Because this just can't be happening we can have. Were supposed to be the voice of the voice of the fan. be in touch with our fans. We can't let this linger like this. I mean larry came to us with a problem. We've got to fix it and we are going to fix it for him so hang their larry. All right don't hang up. We're gonna get this figured out for you. Okay all right all right. Very larry make sure evans changed. He's guaranteeing things to larry. He's not giving it to them to do a podcast with him with him in somebody else. Who bobbleheads that. Were supposed to be bobbleheads. We could set. You know we have some back here. This these are ones that. I think that you wanna keep and there's the sam darnold one in there. That's useless no. Yeah but we gotta send them that one. Oh yeah there's the seaver when you want to hang onto that. One right yeah. Don't you have two of them though. There's no one over there. We haven't got tom seaver one here. I'm not sure which. One better is the joe and evan bobblehead. Is that still around. Because now larry. Joe bob no the earth that there was too whenever you would take a Steve paiko baba. A larry. You wanna steve pikal bobblehead well I like jacob degrom bobbleheads. You'd like jacob degrom bobblehead the date of the ground. My wi- half jacob so young. Yeah no i understand that one. That's a very specific requests for just trying to get bobbleheads. Are you larry. Are you a nets basketball. Fan as well specifically mets and yankees okay. That's a judge one is very nice. Judge wins nice. I want to send that tom. Emmer robertson problems me. Tom seaver dan jacob. Degrom You know what. I can promise you those. Tom seaver one. I'm keeping you got two of them though. I don't care them keeping them he keep them both sending larry. My tom seaver bobbleheads. I'm sorry i love. Larry buyers a great guys a great caller. I'll send mystique pikal bobblehead all right so you tell me. Yes or no. And he's bobbleheads. Larry in the one. You say yes to are yours. All right i ready. All right billie jean king about does larry. We're gonna. I'm gonna tell you if you don't want us sign. I'm not going to get on for it. I'm just gonna go around to tell you the bobbleheads wanting to studio that are available to you. You tell me yes or no okay. No no okay. Sam darnold at usc possible. It's impossible to maybe okay. Get that one. Could be smashed by. Evan craved later on this week. So how about the c c sabathia star wars one I wouldn't yankees already. sent me. the yankees already sent me that one of the yankees center that yeah all right so you have that one so that's also no. Okay what are you. What are you have over there. That's dr j. one here hilarie. Dr j. bobblehead No no okay. What do you have over there boomer. You got the nothing got the quinnipiac. Here that's boomer. I'm not getting that one. I'm not giving that want to be there. You real stingy with these bobbleheads. I know larry a little bit. But not like. Evan does hilarion evans side. They have a connection. And the david friends for a long time. And that evans. Promising larry a lot of these things. I kind of me into this. I wanna make larry. I offered him a steve paiko bobblehead. I wanted oh we have all. This is a great. What's what's that. Hey larry bob eusler bobblehead one. Maybe a maybe okay. So we'll put that in. The may become so sam darnold. Usc and bob eusler calling connecticut. Sun games bob. Buechler baba had in the maybe college. Yes yup okay. All right very good. We'll get evan on the phone for you sometime before ten o'clock this morning. So hanging there larry. We'll get this solar situation up will get you your mom zebra or bobbleheads all right. Okay all right very good. That's larry brooklyn larry's to show up to all my events back in the day when i was here. He's to buffalo wild wings events. And larry be at every one of the first one. They're sitting down and taking in the whole scene. So it's good to hard time believing that evan. 'cause i you know i know evan. I don't to hear shake there's evan. Aj after joe Right and then. There's evan b. c. four craig. So this is this thing going on with evan that you know i think the fans out there having a hard time wrapping their head around. Shut your mouth past evan. We'll get right back to me. Oh yeah i got all right the voicemail knowing answer to the text message. Wow larry's right. Larry is right evans changed. I don't know i. We do have another two hours to get this all figured out. But if he doesn't get back us before the show ends that's a blatant ignore. I mean he does have a newborn still and a young son as well. So we've got two kids. He probably takes care a lot of that stuff in the morning. So we'll give him a break but if he doesn't get back to us by ten we got a major situation. I was listening to Sal licata scream on s n. y last night. Oh yeah now. Is that his house. I believe it is yes with all the bobbleheads and everything. Yeah he is a sick collector. How is sick in the head about. He'd wanna steve paiko bobblehead. He may i. It looks like he has never turned down a bobble it right in his entire life so yeah he's got a lot of. He was screaming about something less on on what it was. He was screaming on on the fan. So well when i was driving in last screen screaming going on a lot of screaming. What would he be screens. The met ben. They won he screaming about his life being over because his wife is about to have their daughter. That's what he was. One of the things in life begins but in his mind that i have not spoken to him about that. I haven't you've told me when you go home now because now you're back to work here and you're doing everything and yeah and you get home usually around noon right. Sure yeah and. Sabrina can't wait to see daddy she. It's the greatest thing in the world. If you have you told them that. I have not yet. No i mean i. You should tell them that. Well usually when i talk. And he's having some other career existential crisis after get through before we get to the personal lifestyle so we haven't gotten there yet. But yes so i mean after my wife gives me fifteen problems. That happens when i walk in the door. Then i get the sabrina hug. Great it offsets everything. Are you ready to meet the moment ozzy and our friends at chevrolet proud to present real talk real change to help foster racial equality in america. And we're inviting you to help. Join the carlos watson as i talked with key leaders from across the country about racial disparities in america's healthcare system. Look for the carlos watson show real talk real change on youtube and subscribe or download the carlos watson show wherever you get your podcast the morning show with boomer esiason and greg naughty boomer and geo love sports love culture. Love that brand new. Podcast called klein hosted by me. Jason concepcion and two-time wnba champion renee. 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Will That Be A Return

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Will That Be A Return

"The drug thrill and the excitement. Everybody's been waiting for is finally here in the world series of poker official app. Get ready to experience. Big hand make big plays and take down big pots. Get one million free chips when entering the promo code wwlp. Ny look for wap in your app store and play for free net and infidels twenty one plus wwlp is not a real money gamete for entertainment purposes. Only all prize awarded game of virtual chips. Only which have no cash value hardly interruption. But i'm mike go bond. It's been ten months since you've out of the office. Tony what do you miss about it. Tony kornheiser miss blowing my nose in your pocket squares. Fold them up that. We're the ones i gifted you so you know where where where map leaf have those where you're getting one not as fancy as you are. Welcome to feed. Ti boys and girls in today's episode. The niners consider their options at quarterback. Mets try to land another star in the hall of fame. Might not let anyone in but we begin today again with aaron rodgers who both of us said has taken his last. Snap as a green bay. Packer mark murphy. The ceo of the packers begs eggs to differ with us. Last night. murphy told wwl. Nfl radio in green bay. And i quote. We're not idiots. Aaron rodgers will be back. Our leader unquote wilpon. This seems like a slap in the face to you. What is your comment. No mark murphy wouldn't do that former northwestern athletic director someone i know very well and respect very much and yes this is what he not only should feel he better feel this way and better approach it. This way to keep aaron rodgers. But tony mark murphy. Also we were sitting down having a real conversation. I would say to him you people of your ilk meaning established. Nfl club builders custom to players having leverage. You think this is the nba and nfl people sneer at nba management folks. And they have for years. You know you can't just cut your guys in throw him out without because you've got no contracts you know your guys have all this leverage. We don't have to deal with that will now they do. And aaron rodgers has a lot of leverage. And we'll see how it plays out. Yeah i mean we know mark murphy before. He was the ada northwestern when he played in washington. And i know when he was the at colgate. And i've played seven. Okay the golf course up there with them. And i like him a lot and i think he's a smart guy as the you. They're not eighty. They wanna keep aaron rodgers but to your point. I don't know that they can necessarily do this. If aaron rodgers is willing to not show up if he wants to and shawn watson wants to see if they have the power of james harden which neither you. Nor i thought they ever had but maybe they do if for example. Aaron rogers says. I'm not gonna play so play you boy jordan. Love who you all have to murphy. Yeah let's see how good he is now. What you hear about him. He's got an accuracy problem. Well maybe that'll be fixed by september. But if jordan love plays then people in green bay are going to get something for aaron rodgers like gotree to get something for aaron rodgers and that puts the game in motion thirty seven. You'd say oh you don't wanna miss thirty seven because you don't have any left after that but brady's proven you do maybe he just gets healthy for a year. I don't know he wouldn't have to miss the year tony. I don't think this is a new day. You mentioned james harden again. This is the fear that is now spread through. Nfl front offices that that that pro football players. And let's face it. We're talking mostly about quarterbacks we could cherry pick some some guys off rosters who have that kind of power. But when you talk about this shawn watson and aaron rodgers those guys do have nba star level leverage. and so. i don't know if mark mark is a very smart guy. I've known him for more than half more than half my life. He knows the calculus here but he may be underestimating to a little bit. What is versus what used to be in terms of that player dynamic there are other reports that rogers is now testing the waters. A sea of green bay will give him a new contract and satisfy him but that could be a charade in the sense that he could say to them. If you don't want to extend me and you don't want to commit me commit to me. Then let me out. Let me if they just drafted the new. What they think is their new golden boy. Why would they. Why would they extend roger that does that doesn't happen anymore in the fell teams either. So doesn't look tony. I may have overreacted to rogers demeanor and comments in the moment after loss. I know better you. And i both in a lot of locker rooms. We know the guys say and field things in the moment that they don't say and feel two months later three months later. But i'm still thinking that this is going to be rodgers. We just saw his last snapper green bay. I'm i'm thinking that position for now. Let's move to baseball with the new york. Mets might be on the verge of another big move bob nightingale of usa today reports. The mets have offered national league. Cy young winner trevor. Bauer a deal that would approach garrett kohl's baseball league the annual salary of thirty six million dollars a year tone would signing trevor bauer seriously as contenders in owner. Steve cohen's very first year. Absolutely look i pay attention to the. Nfl east the phillies are going to keep the catch who'd jt wheel muto. Who's very good catcher okay. The the mets are already a contender. As far as i am concerned. And i'll tell you what they've got a few hitters. Who were awfully good alonzo. Can hit. Fifty home runs right. Conforto is very good player. The deals a good player. Don't forget. Don't forget lynn door. Yeah frankie indoor. Who's a great player wilson ramos. So i loved when he was in washington. And they're going to get noah syndergaard back this year from tommy. John they got jacob degrom who is a two time cy young winner already in the national league and if they get bauer i mean just ask yourself this for a second you come to new york for three gamera four game series and the first two people you get are degrom and bauer. Welcome to the city. I mean they yes. They're building their team. The way the nazis did on starting pitching. Yes i think they are contenders and this is exactly what they wanted. From steve cohen that he would spend a lot of money. Make some flashy hires and make them a big market team. I'm not going to pretend to be a new york baseball expert but this reminds me of the way. Did george steinbrenner used to approach it right. I mean the have done to farm system and great you know great minor league development and filling in here and there but as you mentioned tom cohen. Just he's come in and he said when he came in you know basically look. We're going to do it on every level. We're going to rebuild the farm system. We're going to give three ages. We're gonna make trades and he seems to be doing that but let me just say this looks great on paper but we see teams every year in baseball. Who great on paper. And they don't get it. But i was a little different from the way the white sox are building and they're apparently going to be continuous mostly homegrown and really young talent. The padres have a mix of both. But it's interesting those three teams. Tony which are the other. They are the b-side side teams in their big markets. Steinbrenner went out and he got catfish hunter. And he got reggie jackson. They were not homegrown. You went out and made a big splash. Let me just give you bowers numbers for second. Because they're fantastic in the playoffs. He got a team to the playoffs. That hadn't been here. Since rosen morgan and bench and parise. He went seven. Two-thirds innings. no runs twelve ks. When he went on three days rest he went eight innings. Four hits one run. Twelve ks is a stud. He's a start. Let's move to the next four units still baseball which makes me happy. The hall of fame is set to announce its new inductees at six pm. That's in a few minutes. There is a distinct possibility that no one will get in for the fourth time ever the first time since two thousand thirteen curt schilling is someone who could get in. Barry bonds and roger clemens or get on the ballot will not. How would you feel if nobody gets in the baseball hall of fame. Doesn't do it for me because there's just one big fat dark cloud that's what it's been the cloud hanging over cooperstown now. How many years did you say ten right. Maybe a little bit more net fifteen even more ten to fifteen years. Yeah it's just been hanging there and you don't know what to make of it. What am i supposed to believe on my about the steroid era you know. How harshly should the players from that era. Be penalized individually or collectively. And just go. Oh my god. I'm tired of this. I'm tired of this discussion. I'm tired of the globe. By the way i'm not blaming anybody. I mean if i was going to blame people it'd be the place in question. I'm not blaming the people who elect folks that hall of fame or not. I if i was in that body of people. I don't know that i would know what i'd feel comfortable doing. So when it comes to baseball hall of fame. I'm just like just keep it away from me. Maybe in twenty years will be passed this. It's interesting because i have a distinctly different impression to that. I would be happy if baseball rejected players and didn't let anybody. I would say that that spoke to the integrity of the sport. And the voters in this particular case because they don't want people who aren't great players in there and as opposed to the nfl and the nba. Where they bring in carlo to people every year seven or eight people in the nfl has so many positions. I can live with it in the nba. They end up bringing people who you know. They just scored a lot of points. They weren't great players. they never won anything. I'm okay of schilling. Gets in by the way because i think late in his career in regular season in the postseason arizona in boston i thought really distinguished himself. I thought the bloody sock to get him and alone. But i think people for political reasons and social reasons. They don't like him. I don't know if he's going to get in. And i would put in. Barry bonds and roger. Put them in ahead of sammy. Sosa manny and when rod comes up you know. I mean these. These people are perceived to have cheated has conceded that he cheated. I would put it in as you know. And i put it on the plaque. But i think i mean if you don't have pete rose and barry bonds in what are you doing tony. I get that argument. Here's my conflict. Inner conflict when you said integrity and baseball. I just cringed remember really really smart talented columnist. Who wrote if you took all the cheaters and bums out of baseball you could put the hall of fame and a broom closet. Oh wow what a great line that was. You wanna refresh my memory. It tell me who wrote this funny as a great line. Good i was you by anson kornheiser. Nice job you you've gone days like now. Let's take a break coming up. Is matthew stafford shawn watson. More likely to be suiting up for the niners next season. Always like using that line against you. Just when i needed former teammates john wall bradley beal face each other tonight. Who should be happier with it again. I used to be a good writer right. you were doing anymore Bruins the draw thrill and the excitement. Everybody's been waiting for is finally here in the world series of poker official app. Get ready to experience. Big hands make big plays and take down big pots. Get one million free chips when entering the promo code. Wfan ny look for wap in your app store and play for free net and tim for those twenty. Plus wfp is not a real money. Gambling is for entertainment purposes only price of warnings and game of virtual chips which have no cash value. Do you own or rent your home sherry you and i bet it can be hard work. You know it's easy. Bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy. Visit dot com today. That's geiko dot com for the game where everything is a toss up except who is gonna win this guy. What's i toss up more likely to start for the niners next season. Matthew stafford or does shawn watson so garoppolo is out the guy who took you to the super bowl less than twelve months ago. He's just out. We're supposed to say okay. He's gone couch outta here. Is okay with that. If i were in the forty niners mike. And i and i was an old team. I go for stafford if i needed to win. Now if i was a young team and i could build something. Incrementally i would go for sean watson as it turns out. They are the fourth oldest team in the nfl and stafford is likely to cost them less in draft picks or something like that. Yeah so. I mean. If i had to pick i'd say stafford yeah. It seems like that would be a stafford answer to me as well. Tony and you're right. I mean garoppolo. Wasn't he supposed to be everybody's answer to everything being upright bellichik wanted. It couldn't keep him in the niners. We're gonna win with him but then as soon as the niners didn't win we're talking about him being out of there the next season which means the we just finished regular season. So who knows Some of these things were so overstated. Stafford hasn't done anything to prove that he can win but we think he can. We're projecting with better players around him. I would think you would be stafford as well. Yeah i mean he gives you a better opportunity maybe to win right now right now. I don't know the show. What's things that are player. toss up. They play tonight who should be happier bradley beal or john wall okay. So money is not an issue. They both make a lot of money. Although wall makes so much money in two thousand twenty two is going to make forty seven million dollars you have to look at what they're playing with and what they think is coming around the corner and both these teams have been hurt by the corona virus. So it's hard to tell if they're any good or not houston a six and nine. Washington is three and nine washington traded wall and got russell westbrook. Who i believe is a better player and more willing to play with beeld. Really wanna play with beal. If i look at this objectively. I think probably has to be happier. Because they traded wall to keep him happy and to keep him around. So i think he's probably a little bit happier even though the gm lied about that trade. Tony that makes sense to me. Just scenario laid out. But i'm gonna say wall because wall plan. You look first of all the wizards. Don't even play then. I even out there the wizards the season started in the wizards are still in training camp. Where they are sadly because of corona virus. Now that's right. There's a kidney in christian. Would you not watching the league. Your christian would is but you'd better center. He's good he kim's gray and john walk and play with him. And eric gordon and i'm not sure i know a houston's doing gig who god only knows what their management is doing. But i think the answer could be john wall here. Who seems pretty frisky. Laughing always devotion and data all depot. So you got all. I'd only christian. Would he can sing. He clear rescue depot. Let's take one last break but still to come coach k.'s. Team could fall below five. Hundred tonight really. Oh depot annually on my all best dressed team. All sports tomorrow gets tossed after going low low war. But i don't think so. He won't harding on just trash that whole team. Nobody wants to play at once app. Desk dan once last one running with elite. Qb's russell kenneth on td's across nova step behind the west cloud because you at thirty thirty two single. Push us bruce lee showing no mercy factfile got the crew on deck old g. No one else goes deeper. The espn app download now. A happy time people happy twenty seven. Th birthday mantras. Hell when the notable sixth man signed with the lakers in the off season there were all sorts of pronouncements that this was monumentally. Important not only would harrell's offensive and defensive. Prowess greatly helped the lakers but his absence from the clippers would greatly diminish them. The clippers were potentially dysfunctional. Doc rivers and paul. George had another massive choke during the playoffs. Well so far. The clippers haven't been hurt at all. Their record of thirteen and four is just a half game behind the lakers. Fourteen four which is best in the nba and georgia's having very good season harrell who averaged eighteen point six points and seven point. One rebounds for the clippers is getting the same rebounds for the lakers but his scoring down five points again. What is the motivation. Switch teams but stay in the same building since both the clippers the lakers playing the staples center. I'm guessing the lakers locker room in catering must be far superior to the clippers. The lakers locker room has that guy with twenty three on his jersey. Maybe that might be the motivation for switching locker rooms and that a hero wasn't going to score as many points playing for the lakers. That just wasn't going to happen. But he's big contributor. Tony the lakers gave the team the day off today and have no plans to officially mark the year since the death of kobe bryant. Lebron even sit earlier this week. Quote legends never die and he's exactly that close quote and anthony davis said quote. I know i still have trouble with it. You still just can't believe it. Close quote tom. I'm totally with lebron. Ad in that. It's okay to deal with this in a private team. Way as opposed to another round of public commemorations happy anniversary chicago bears stay thirty-five years ago the monsters of the midway completed their dominating eighteen in one season with a forty six to ten demolition of new england. The bears defense was extraordinary during the regular season. They held opponents under double digits seven times in the playoffs. They were even better. They won their three games by a combined score of ninety one to ten tad insult to injury even devised the hand off to william the refrigerator. Perry a massive defensive lineman for super bowl touchdown. it's certainly arguable. The super bowl shuffle bears had the greatest season. Ever even better than the undefeated miami dolphins at least this one year. The bears had a quarterback who scored some points with jim mcmahon. I don't wanna get new way. Will on what stands out to me. This was thirty five years ago. I was at that game in the war orleans. It honestly doesn't feel that long ago to me. the bears have been to a super bowl in lhasa. Peyton manning the colts in two thousand seven after two thousand six season tony was. It's a one note mill one hit wonder. What a hit. it was. Do you if you had to pick between the seventy two dolphins in the eighty five years. Do you pick just wrote that script. Because i pick the bears because they were just dominating you over those dolphins who were perfect. I don't know are you listening. Campaign don't happy trails jamal. Murray the denver guard was ejected in the third quarter of last night's game against dallas. After pure intentionally hit. Tim hardaway junior in the man's murray stumbled backward after the two collided on a denver possession. Murray got up reached between hardaway's legs with his right arm and hardaway doubled over the initial foul call was upgraded to a flagrant to upon video review. Denver coach michael malone said he hoped quote. We can use this as a learning experience on whatever that means. You'll remember jamal. Murray had a fabulous run in the recent playoffs. He's scored twenty six point. Five points a game at six point six assists shot forty five point three from three. He was so good. Mr wilpon pronounced him and donovan. Mitchell superstars murray's down across the board this year to nineteen point three points. Four point three assists in only thirty four percent from three. What happened six of the nuggets players from that team. They have those two great comeback series six left team. Tony including mr grant who they should a move heaven and earth to keep on team and now let him go to detroit but when you lose six players it's gonna take you a while to murray's coming along donovan mitchell. You don't wanna argued meat. He's a superstar. Do you not arguing with anybody anymore. Ever gig finish. lebron forty. Six as the lakers beat the cavs. Are you impressed. Lebron in cleveland got a chance to go home. Have mom's home cooked meals. Hang out with his uncle. Just that was not a good situation. For the galileo's former jags coach doug marrone joining alabama as offensive line coach. How shocking this is. What sabin does he. Rehabilitates coaches who've been fired. And then they leave him and they become head coaches again. James wiseman came off the bench last night behind kvant. Looney did i get that rice. It is that makes sense to you in the short term. Anything can make sense in the nba. Tony i'm particularly. I'm sure steve. Kerr wants to play with combinations. And rotations pooping players. Yes georgia tech at duke. Tonight is five or five duke. It a fall below five hundred something capable to me. This is do. I mean i. I don't i can't imagine them under five hundred. I can't wild last one. The jazz go for their ninth win in a row when they host the knit you like their chances hid plan much better tone. Eight and ten at least offering around five hundred. I don't see him beaten the jazz the toward jazz tonight in utah. No odd time trying to better the next time on tony kornheiser. And i'm mike rowe bonds anytime tomorrow knuckleheads you can get the pti podcast on the espn app or apple. Podcasts now seriously. Do you listen to me when i do these and every appeal every other shows.

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"The very latest on Antonio Brown team. USA's feeble World Cup over you need to apologize for shutting down an autograph request my young fan of deposing thema the panel. Let's go no autographs Tony. I wanted your autograph and Mony Old Brown practice with the Patriots today go check at had a podium didn't say much about that onto. Miami many many many times that's from the football side of it which honestly we're not going to discuss too much because last tonight's news that he's been accused of three separate incidents of sexual assault and rape a civil lawsuit a federal lawsuit a college friend from Bible Study Turn trainer the Browns Britney Taylor D telly the times in question and text messages have been released Brown through his attorney denied. All claims isn't that released much detail detail into their relationship. Patriots released a statement saying they don't condone sexual violence of any kind. NFL will investigate mark. Maske reports say NFL is considering placing in ground on the commissioner's exempt list Clinton Yates. How do you consider the news the Patriots do which of the NFL do. There's a a couple of different things to address here number. One as a human as far as Antonio Brown is concerned as far Rosenhaus. His Asia is concerned. The message they're sending outward is one that is deeply troubling the way that statement came across one that took a page out of every single victim blaming and rape culture situation. I've ever heard in my life naming specifically the fact that you had been paid aided the most interposition in the NFL at one point and then going on to say that you were defending not just yourself but other pro athletes who have gotten targeted gross not the way you approach that and is not something that in this stay in age. I expected frankly to see from such a professional outfit secondarily though if you're the Patriots you gotta think to yourself forget about the football. You're just embarrassing us. At this point that is is reason enough in my opinion to sit down and say you know what we're not sure. If you're ready to be a part of this franchise in the way that we need you to be they took enough of a risk on him as a personality considering would happen in Oakland and for this the crop before he even gets on the field of not be shocked at all if they just said you know what we're not having this right now you gotta take so. Would you say you're surprised at Brown practice actus today. I am surprised that he practiced simply because it looks terrible. Bella check didn't answer any of those questions. I don't think that's the right way to do this overall the NFL has an issue issue with this and it's something that you think the League might have to step in on if the Patriots don't do it themselves Ramona Shelburne. How do you consider all this well. One of the biggest factors here is the timing of all of of this week you know. Luke Walton was involved in a similar case with the Sacramento Kings after he got hired but that actually happened in the off season and so the the Kings in the NBA didn't necessarily have to make these hard decisions right now. This is a civil case. It is not a criminal case and so there has to be some level of investigation and we're in waters right now where the and where the NFL where Antonio Brown with the Patriots all have to kind of set precedent on how they wanNA proceed generally speaking. I think you sit him out until you have some unclarity about the veracity these allegations and what this really is but they don't have that time week two's coming up and so this is this is where I think you take take the moral high ground and say until we know we're going to sit him down and remove this from the conversation and just focus on football and let the legal process in a word Ramona. How would you you describe the Patriots. Decisions will brown the practice. Today I would say disappointing. I mean I understand that. He has rights well as well and we're going. We've heard some from his lawyer. We've heard some from the what his counter argument is going to be. I assume he will file a response to her brief but but until we know what his responses says I think you have to have an abundance of caution what he page any thoughts here. Yes wrong is the word I would use. Don't let him practice of make him. Inactive probably try and suspend him. If you're the Patriots would it have been good information if drew Rosenhaus his agent had told the Patriots. We're aware that a civil suit is coming. Don't make accusing him of rape. I mean the Patriots looked so awful here that they just signed a guy I mean the raiders suddenly seemed like the right team in all of this by getting rid love him Antonio Brown. Just keep told giving just keeps on giving every day. There's something new involved with him but I think if the League is going to investigate I recalled all I said earlier in the week. They should investigate what happened with him siding with the Patriots of course they've got investigate but preemptively the Patriots could say we don't what you practicing. We don't want you in the game. We'll make you an active was suspend you and until this is all settled at least cleared up to in Calcutta. You know as far as in practicing today I would use the phrase. The bill belichick doesn't like to use it's the Patriot way. They're about winning football games there about winning championships and the rest of it they kind of shove aside and they deal with it if they have to if the League forces them to you know we've seen it with players. We've seen it with the other issues. The team has been involved in but as far as something would he just said about Antonio Brown keeps on giving. I think we should try to take all the stuff we have in our brain about Antonio Brown and all the nonsense that's led up to this and say this is something very different none of that other's criminal activity so if this case had come out a year ago ago we would have a very very different view of Antonio Brown being accused of this than we do now right now. We think there's something wrong with him with all his narcissistic behavior but it's just been too much information. We're trying to step away from it. I think this is a very different situation from everything. He's been involved. Also Tim the Commissioner's exempt list. Is that not why it exists Clinton Yates. Is that not where the NFL should land here but for me what the deal is is that if the Patriots shut up for perhaps somehow recoup some money or whatever it may be. I don't think this is a contractual issue. This is one of the Patriots have to say. We believe one thing right. Versus one thing is wrong and that's why you do that not simply because you might be able to recoup some money or whatever the case may be. Thanks for your thoughts on this. We move on France. Eighty nine seventy nine fifty eight game international tournament ornament winning streak over Frank Ntilikina outscoring Donovan Mitchell Kendall Walker combined down the stretch and that is how the Fiba World Cup quarterfinals game before the game before the Game Ramona first to you how calamitous a laws is this for the United States. I've been checking Frank Solas twitter page religiously warnings waiting for him to get on manipulate nicotine of you know like I think it's a bigger win for France that it is a loss for the United States. Nobody expected all that much of this team. I mean they're this is like not this was not even the B. team or the C team. This was like anybody who can play team. and I think this is going to re reince reignite the discussion that we have on who needs to play in these Games Jerry Colangelo has been on record as saying you know what maybe we make this the under twenty three team for all the World Oh Cup events and we don't put pressure on the stars to play in these events and then you can have a cohesive team. That's been built up or they go the other way and say you know what you don't get to play in the Olympics and wait around for two thousand twenty unless you put your time in and help us win these tournaments because these type of the losses are embarrassing for US makes them reassess how they make a Ross. Yep Woody page agree with that well Ramona. They've already said in the past that if you don't play in the international competition you play play in the Olympics. Guess how that works out. It doesn't they just if you're a star you go. That's fine. I'm fine with France winning. It's okay to let other people win but you could tell this team was already exposed in Australia when they lost to the Australian and yes they're losing. NBA Players Guess what these other countries have really good NBA players but they didn't have an inside presence. They got a guy was a backup center in the NBA. They didn't have a three point shooter. There was any good guess what they were out rebounded. They didn't shoot three pointers as well as as France did did they didn't even two free throws at the end of the game. There were any good I mean. It was a team. That was not very good next year. I assume the stars will show up but it may be that we just send college players but they don't stay around long enough to actually play in international competition. I think you go to the tissue companies sneakers and say say you must put in your contract. These guys are going to play in the international if they want to. That's interesting so not only do they reassess how they make the roster. You think there should be pressure from other other sides of it not just team. USA But with the shoe companies. I didn't see that coming Tim cowlishaw how calamitous a loss this team. USA Well. It's a significant -nificant loss because it just doesn't have it. We don't pay attention to this team unless it loses their basically the Connecticut women as long as they're winning rolling along we just kind of expect that and then they lose. They say what the Hell happened but you look at the team. Harrison Barnes the only one with Olympic experience Chris Middleton and Kemba Walker the only ones I've ever played all star game and and you know as far as constructing a roster had three centers Turner Plumlee and Brook Lopez and they played sixteen minutes in this game against France. Maybe they need to do a better the job with the players that are available of putting a team together and I think that Brook Lopez you mentioned does have an all-star appearance from him. how about you gates how calamitous a loss is this for where Team USA. I don't think it's calamitous but it is instructive. I mean Tim you say nobody pays attention to the team until they lose. Nobody really pays attention to this even if they win which is sort of the whole problem is that in context of what USA hoops is what is the purpose of the program. Are we there to develop guys to become. NBA Superstars we there to entertain the so-called USA hoops Smith. I think that's the question you gotTa figure out where you actually trying to do because this tournament the world's isn't on the level of the Olympics. Look in the game though France was always going to win this bad Brennan three point interesting team. It required a heck of an effort from short as F- ever raise that overawe aw what are you doing with the program. That's the larger question there's one. He's liberty. He's I guessing this game. That's that's a pretty big second. France was always GonNa win this game wherever you that's what I wanted to I was not on this organ. Yesterday tone tweeted out. Give it to the people that have been anyone WANNA finish up. Pichu area here last rites here. Tsa Remote at first and then woody by the way they might lose again. They have to play Serbia in the next round supposed to to be their biggest strategy. Do we really need games by the way I'M GONNA. Give you a chance here so you don't finish fifth on the shell last go at someone who's around forty-eight Clinton. France wasn't supposed to win this game. Have you ever watched forty and he was the star of the Games. All Oh God what is in the League with Ramona shelburne seven six five Clinton Yates. 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Logie and home runs per among others. Ramona does this take Yelich out of MVP. Does this take the brewers postseason yeah. I think it's far more damaging for the brewers than it is for Christian Yelich. MVP can see and that's coming from somebody out here. In Los Angeles gets to watch cody bellinger every night yellen stats. You just better than bellinger's. He's the best player on the far worst team and I. I don't know that it hurts him necessarily but this is a killer brewers they were just barely hanging onto that second wildcard L. Card in that second wildcard race and I don't see how they regained back in the second wildcard forty pages. It's the end of the brewers and what does it do to Yeltsin. BP actually so you're pretty easy scheduled down the stretch finished with three games because the rockies who get anybody sad sad to watch what happened but they'll rally around each other because because we saw that after he left last night they still won the game so I think he's not gonNa have a chance to win the most valuable player it's bellinger. He's been the front runner wrong Louisianan two weeks. That's it for you that changes the MVP or at least gives if the bellinger how `bout you Kaushal. I think the answer to both questions Russians yes. Unfortunately I think yes is gone. I think valor hitting the home runs thinks he's doing a dodger stadium and that team playing the way it is. It's going to get get it to him and I know the brewers are close in the wild card tenets baseball so losing one player teams rally but I I don't see them hanging in there. I don't think they're GONNA win. Eh to that point if the brewers don't make the playoffs actually think it helps yellow cheese. MVP case you need to guide in order to get the post season. We're talking about a dude who stole thirty bags for the team for the first responses two thousand twelve and you add that easy schedule. Yes y'all issues. Important actually could help if they don't make the playoffs but you don't think they want to words with your friend Jerry Jones. Oh instead. Somebody asks your opinion on whether something's done it takes two to do it. They're speaking just from their perspective. In my mind we were fast approaching the deal ten. You're going to have to translate that for US Jerry on his definition of the word imminent and DAK PRESCOTT DOC NFC offensive player of the week by the way on his urgency to sign now. I've been wearing my jerry decoder ring for thirty years and even with that. It's it's difficult a week ago. They signed Zeke Elliot and he called Zeke incremental in our team success so you never know exactly what he's going with some of the stuff. I think he thinks it's imminent. He doesn't want to see the press going to go up higher. I'm not sure it can realistically but doc in his agents are betting on his play and betting on his ability to stay all right. Do you take me away signed now. After the greatest week of his career it'd be okay but but it doesn't hurt to wait either. I think Jerry Jones got caught off guard again. You weren't expecting to come out and have such a monster performance now. You're waffling on conference calls just like when Zeke decided he was going to sit out two here's before he caught him off guard and he was talking all this trash in Oxnard Jerry. Get your timing right here. Also just GONNA end up hanging out we more money to your incremental -Cremento instrumental imminent not even close. I think I I I kinda like Jerry was obviously just trying to mind control here he was trying to. Let's go station here but like if you're Dak Prescott. It's one thing to bet on yourself. This is the NFL. We're guaranteed money matters. You can get hurt anyone the time to age as a master of of Godly good on this program. I just heard Jerry Jones and imminent means right away. It doesn't mean maybe that's my opinion. It'll happen sometime in the future. Attack should wait till the end of the year because he'll get the biggest it contract. He'll be the latest tighest advising back. You say wait a little while before you get paid. I'll remember that ten worry. There's still more from your cowboys bogged arches Lawrence's explanation. He's going to be honest with his own kids. He's going to be honest with yours and he'll never treat yours better than he treats his. tiff does Lord's own apology. Does he uh-huh an explanation does he oh nothing for refusing to sign that autograph of the Young Man With the Judge Jersey. Oh absolutely nothing he signs a ton of autographs does worked with the boys club here he doesn't owe any apologies and that's not really a time. They're signing off autographs. Walk into the bus but you got to be in the Right Teams Jersey. You don't approach a two player on the cowboys in giants. Get some rule by Lawrence but I'm selling the motivation of whoever the human may be that pushed I that kid out there into the fray apparently trying to create a viral moment instead of getting an autograph. It's twenty nine thousand turn around. Take a Selfie was that's. How you do Clinton Tate's telling parents parents not being a parent. I don't know it's like the mean Joe Greene commercial of this era. I I love better than any autograph that he could have gotten from him. I don't know what the problem as a former kid who went to minor league game baseball all game years old and ask for visiting player to sign my piece of paper and he told me of a down and a bird. I still for that so he should've side. It's just a small back. It could be anything really but I trust yeah. Yeah Great Bobby the brain heenan store. You told us before we sat down. That's on the Internet you click on that. It's a better story what he maybe. If you said that you've got the points I was so begins. Yes thank you very much page. Six hundred career wins not happening today. Clinton Yates the former kids aww former kids Tim Keller show showdown but it's still Kansas Ramona Shelburne Sim Kallas show good luck and showed out the dodgers clenching the NFL West Point. Anybody know how many in arose seven seven is correct remote. Its role this year feel different Ramona. I don't feel different in October of the actually win but honestly this dodger team. You look at them right now. I don't know that you say that they're better than the Yankees or the Astros which has been in the same case in October the last two years when they lost the world series they weren't better fell different when we saw them. Clinton against the Orioles. That's a little odd but I think they are. A great great team doesn't mean they'll win it. It's baseball. It's going to happen sometime in the ping deeper they don't count on. It's not kershaw a bunch of guys so I think they have a great okay Ramone Ramona things. There are several teams that have a better chance. I think they've got a great chance as well Tim. We'll move on. Noah syndergaard the beds splits. He has with Catcher Wilson Ramos. He says that's on him comments earlier this week as people think he didn't think it was on him he was living with the word that was used media media here tim on personal catchers and Syndergaards nonliving liquidity well he whatever he said originally he's cleaned it up now and that's okay and the split matters unfortunately syndergaard degrom and all of them is that Romulus is two hundred fifty points higher. The Neto's rumbles is gonNA play. I'll know now is a pretty good teammate because he's trying to repair that relationship with Rama's in front of the cameras and uphold his reputation but he clearly has an issue with him. Tim cowlishaw now out in front showdown three air conditioning issues in the LSU locker room at Texas. That's Audran saying Ut says you see was fine or during the about that. Lsu Ban by the way. Let me this shot upper deck. That's where the Lsu pep band was. We know that for sure. Ramona was a wrong committed. Here is so funny seeing that shot by the way it reminds me of every screams screams from the upper deck thinking they're trying to taunt the other team like that quarterback here that that was great gamesmanship by taxes but there will be no mater has had some issues with crowds. Alexander being noisy enough. They're trying to the Minister of Culture Matthew mcconnahey trying to get some things going. That's those are good seats for the band as far as the air conditioning they're from Baton Rouge. There used to sweat no big deal. What capacity time to show you today deal? I'll I'll tell you what's the big deal last Monday night two nights ago on Monday night. Football is the fiftieth year Monday night football and the last time we will get to see a baseball infield in the middle of a football football field because there won't be any more money night games in Oakland this year and after this year there won't be any more games than Oakland also more. 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"Wanted Decorate your favorite room with Mike Memorabilia that team at MLB nine. Innings has a special offer for you. Mike Trout stay raking sweepstakes event is up and running during the month of September grab your mobile device logging and play turn a chance to an awesome prizes autographed by Mike Trout including jerseys chopsticks turf shoes hats and baseball's as a bonus. All players will receive Mike Gold Card in game and they'll be nine endings download it now no purchase necessary visit the IT dot l. y. Slash Day ranking official rules rules and details these baseball tonight the PODCAST. This is the baseball tonight podcast or Wednesday September eleventh two thousand nineteen. I'm buster only in our producer back in Bristol Troy Farkas and you can't mentioned that phrase nine eleven September eleventh without thinking of two thousand one on in all of those who were lost on that day and their families who were left behind in all those first responders and move quickly to help the folks in trouble selflessly and Troy Roy. I was covering the Yankees at the time and I'll never forget that fall is the Yankees advance through the postseason. Every night. There would be a line of first responders brought not Yankee stadium outside of the Yankees clubhouse inner to go onto the field and do the positive the national anthem and man. I it just puts a lump in my throat. Every Tom I think of those folks in all that they lost. I know me too buster. I mean I remember where I was. I was in kindergarten at that time and those are really my earliest sports. Memories is those Yank They Yankees diamondbacks world series and when George Bush throughout the first pitch and I didn't even realize September eleventh was coming around until I typed out the word September number eleven today and I was like Oh my God and I was just overcome with emotion every time I think about it. I am a big big show to everyone who helped out on that day. Yeah they're dates in this country's history that you know November twenty second. You know the date the John F. Kennedy was killed December Seventh Pearl Harbor that absolutely stand out and obviously nine eleven is one of those days last night and Major League baseball the dodgers face the orioles with an opportunity to wrap up their seventh consecutive nationally. West title Walker Bela was outstanding eleven strikeouts over seven scoreless innings and he got help from Cory seager. Here's a fly ball to left. Baduel hit on its way and it is gone homerun four e Seger a three run home run on a two run blast here in the third and the dodgers now have a six. Am Five Seventy Sports Portu- dodgers orioles. Somebody throw tell stopped the fight. They continued. This was the bottom of the ninth inning. Ferguson set the pitch to Trombone Cau- aw break free the dodgers win after being in first place for all but six days the entire season the dodgers have won their seventh seventh consecutive National League Western Division title once again the best in the West and after the game they brightly celebrated hard one of the few members of this team. That's been part of seven consecutive championships in the how does it feel wanted wanted to be the coldest one from spectrum from sports net. La The athletics and the Astros and you remember what happened the last few days the Esra scored twenty one runs on Sunday then fifteen more runs against stoeckel in on Monday Tuesday the athletics return the Famer left field that babies goal aw Christie yet from NBC Sports California and run just kept on coming for the athletics visit. Is it base it to write in an RBI solid base it the other way scoring is pro for me is making a twenty one to five ballgame twenty one to seven was the final score that was Ken Korec eight sixty. AM The answer crazy game in Detroit. The key set a six zero lead early and they blow it. It was tied in the bottom of the ninth inning when this happened sooner line drive the right center. Bradley third heading home is catastrophic. Oh Tigers win. Jordy Mercer delivered to the drive up the right center field gap. His entire dugout explodes heads up the steps and mobs him. It's Kim Base Water Night Comerica Park Dickerson ninety seven point one the ticket for the Yankees. He's a lost opportunity because we've been talking about how they're in this race for the home field advantage in the postseason. Houston loss last night but the Yankees also lost the the worst team in baseball the Tigers the twins face the nationals and took Care Business Mitch garber helping out pitch swing and Gosh because the weed second deck bliss for from the Treasure Island Baseball Network Corey provost with the call twins win five to nothing the Indians face the angels and Francisco Indoor added a milestone. I PIT SWINGING FRANSCISCO LIT door launches one high and deep to right Paul door there it is number thirty four Francisco Lindores Indians lead it seven seven nothing. Jim Rose now select one hundred w Cleveland wins eight to nothing and troy. I'll tell you when I said that Linda had a milestone. I I didn't really know I just guessed because it seems like every home run hit. This year is some kind of a milestone some kind of a record I know and I think last night was had. The most home runs vending any night this season. Oh my God it's crazy raise rangers and the rays took the lead top the eleventh of Radio Media Line down the left field line that gets for a base hit rounding damage on his way home the throw these cutoff RBI single Kiama Haredi. It's why free raise in eleven that from six twenty w d that would be the final score five to three in the American League wild-card race at the end of the day Tampa Bay one and a half games ahead for the first Wildcard Oakland a half game ahead of the Indians for the second wildcard Red Sox. They're done nine. Games comes out in the race for the wild card in the National League. Mets diamondbacks two teams vying for the second wildcard. Todd Frazier got a big hit swing on the lighter down. Ah Feel Line Fair for going to the corner cannot will score easily presario. What is white third row hustle presario wave home really throw to the plate sliding. We sat down the second goes frazier to score them certainly by a score of two to one how you rose. WCBS the cardinals facing the rockies in all of the rockies runs came in the bottom of the first inning pitch. Well hit the left high and deep the concourse touch of all time for our anatomy to Nothing Iraqis yeah that homerun measured at four hundred and eighty two feet to call an eight fifty. Koa and the Rockies beat the cardinals two two to one the phillies and the braves and Scott kingery had a nice moment to one swing and a high fly center field. It's pretty deep a KUNA drifting back. He's to the track Iraq. The wall getting ready to jump believes he always brought it back. It's on the warning track hickories around second. He's heading third wave into the plague hobbies. The home side of the ball goes by catering within the barker that Kunia kept in the yard the anyway it's got frisky Sports Radio Ninety Four. W I P in the Phillies win this game six to five at a time when they're chasing chasing the cubs for the second wildcard in the National League Chicago in San Diego per the second game of that series and it didn't turn out well here inside ball for this ball game but some i San Diego padres just late. It's official. It's a nine eight ballgame aw a walk off. Walk allowed by the cubs. There was Ted lightner ninety seven point three the fan the game of the day because of its importance was in Miami the brewers and the Marlins and Christian Yelich a former former Marlin who was at the plate in the top of the first inning one one day Yelich hit foul right off the top of yellowish his foot and he is down on a knee and now sitting right on home plate head down Rossio brewers athletic trainer and Craig Counsel Right Behind him out to chat that that from six twenty Wtmj he would come out of the game with a fractured kneecap. That's how it turned out after his evaluated a devastating blow for the brewers he's out for the rest of the year word began to filter in the brewers clubhouse in the top of the fourth inning. That's one years money grand all did this. The two one swing shot this down the right field line. That's a fair ball. Anderson's GonNa come in score GRONDAHL digging for second base he will be in standing on a run scoring double doubles the brewers in his third inning and they make it a three one lead you did and they would go onto win. forty-three in at the end of the day they were just one game behind the cubs in the race for the second wildcard in the National League but of course everyone everyone was concerned about Christian Yelich. Here's David stearns the brewers general manager I think first and foremost we feel we feel awful for Christian. this is a guy who's is carried us in a number of ways or less two years could have been two and a half weeks away from a repeat most valuable player award so. I think that's where our thoughts go first from a team perspective. We have a lot of guys in that clubhouse. who will hurt tonight. This is Gut Punch for a night and then we need to recover and play really strong. Basically we've been through this before as an organization two years ago almost was to the day we lost Jimmy Nelson to similarly freak injury and we compete at a very high level for the remainder of that season and I expect our teams compete a similarly high level going forward a lot of ripples coming off of that injury. Let's get to it Bob Nightingale Baseball reporter for USA. The Eighty Day joins us on the Shell Pennzoil performance line brought to you by new. Shell v Power Nitro plus premium gasoline now with four levels of defense against gunk where corrosion and friction and and Bob obviously the top stories of the day Christian Yelich out for the year after fracturing his kneecap. You know personally. I think the brewers I can withstand this but this is like the Patriots Losing Tom Brady. That's how important yellow pages to the brewers. What do you think no. I agree Basra yeah. I think it would be tough for them. Recover from it. You know just emotionally everything else. I mean he was putting on a great m. e. p. Push in the only as having a better year really do a year ago. you know they were red hot. He was red hot. You just heard about the scene in the clubhouse. You saw the video tapes and you everybody who is so down you know he's got tears in his eyes and they do have a very favorable schedule whether get three games left against the cardinals and that's it as far as teams news over five hundred but yet. I think she's so much dejection things we tougher than overcome yeah part of the reason why. I think they actually could make candid. There are three reasons for me one. I feel like they've got a great clubhouse culture and their small market team so they're used to adversity. You know it's amazing that they're even in this position given how tattered or pitching staff is now every game when I watched the brewers that you look at the great councils face and you can almost see the look on his face like now. How am I going to get twenty-seven outs tonight with with the way that his staff is lately to and you mentioned the favorable schedule that they have they play the cardinals this weekend and and besides that they play essentially some of the worst teams in baseball for the rest of their games and meanwhile the cubs team they're chasing seven of Chicago's last ten in games or against the cardinals three. Let's face it in this race for the second wildcard in the National League. It's not like we're talking about. You know all these teams reminding you. The twenty twenty seven Yankees like all of these teams have their issues. That's why I wouldn't completely rule out the brewers making the winning. This spot you mean so much depends on the cubs. I mean you know like like you said the cubs chasing the carnal stuff four games back centre last ten against hit. Lewis in the country. Even even this door wide open. I mean they should be running away with the division. You know much less a wild card berth then they have games like last night with a walk off. Walk me losing games like that to San Diego Padres and you wonder I mean if the cubs at some point here I gotta turn it honors. I mean some big changes over there. Yeah that's my sense too. I feel like it's a cubs. Don't make the postseason this year like all bets are off even in the revamping of this team. What do you think yeah completely agree. You know what I mean. Obviously they make a change manager. You know maybe some of the coaches well well in a seem revamping that whole lineup where you know they go into winter telling teams. Hey pretty much everybody's available here. You know who got to trade in just to turn things around. 'cause you know maybe you're talking about the Colorado rockies and in Chicago cubs you know probably the two most disappointing being teams throw in the National League. I think the cubs would tell other teams. Havi your biases off limits. Wilson controllers is off limits. We'll talk about anybody else. Including quoting Anthony Resil- including Kris Bryant agree I agree I agree and I taste saying you'll let let's see we can do because this office is disjointed right now. In you know there there's no way they should be playing like this especially when they made all those trays at the trade deadline and worked out. I mean what would they be even without Castellanos. This guy just arrived. Let's double back a little bit on Yelich not that it's really that important. what do you think is does his chances chances for winning his second straight. Mvp why think kills it. I think he's got no chance now. That'd be hard pressing him. Get you know a single first place vote where before he was making a push. I still think it was you know bellinger's. MVP to lose particularly at the brewers hadn't made the playoffs. If the brewers had made the playoffs playoffs there have been a very close call but now I could easily see you know cody bellinger winning MVP pretty easily unless run don't hear so you don't make makes a final surge in you know it makes things interesting but I got a feeling now that reknowned may slip Paseo much injury. That's it's not getting as much attention. Byron Buxton to the twins wound up having shoulder surgery yesterday he's out for the rest of this year they of course lost Michael Pineda to a PD diuretic suspension the other day for the rest of the year. What do you think the impact of the bucks in Israel injury is on the twins imaginary counting on him just just because the in so beat up over the year in it was kind of fear like with this guy even come back yeah. It just starts to Pylon Pylon here. I mean it's still a very good ball club. certainly still win the central but you just wonder how in the world and they're. GonNa get past. The Yankees are Houston the first around that data partial hard to say yeah. That's one where you're talking about the brewers before. I think they could still make the playoffs but I can't imagine a scenario where they would ask actually have a chance to make it to the world series and I feel the same way with about the twins with us to superpower teams in front of them yeah. They're just too good good. Yeah you particularly Yankees then. It's just a mental thing. I mean you remember when you were coming the Yankees. They the twins can never beat them in several times. They had a better team in just a you know there was a blown save here or there miscues but it's almost in their head is my minding this. He didn't number difference in Yankees and twins over. Maybe starting in late nineties they they used to have their number so I want to ask you about a a situation that happened with the pirates yesterday cow creek one of their relievers required season ending surgery for his right index finger after his injured in a clubhouse house fight with fellow Reliever Reliever Felipe Vasquez. This is not the first incident involving Cow Creek or the pirates earlier this year the club suspended account Kayla for two games for arguing with coach. Their bullpen coach was suspended for two games. He had an altercation with creek. I'm sure you've heard the story about how a couple of players including creek were screaming at Rob Beer Temple. The beat reporter from the athletic was apparently very ugly in Kaelin. Creek were involved in a brawl which one in the fight that have with the Cincinnati reds eight some point thinking Kyle Creek better make better career decisions because he finishes this this year with a three seven record in a four point nine sixty era bob. Maybe he should avoid these types of things a little better. Yeah you can get away with with it when you're riding. I and the King of the pitching staff but you're right. I mean his personality. Just you know it. Kinda flew back in the day but not now You can't do those things before the you know the these Tapa guys in baseball you can do with them and now people. Aren't you know I was a little surprised and pleasantly that the virus came out and saying exactly what what caused the injury and everything else you know they're very transparent about it but with all these things that are going on you. You really wonder what's going to happen in Pittsburgh in this is in you know as a what kind of changes to make this is Huntington bag clint hurdle back. you know the two main things are happening in Pittsburgh. The one thing I would bet the family farm back in Vermont Towel Creek will not be on the two thousand twenty pirates. That's a good that's my guests on the day what do you. I think you're probably right. I mean just a You know what he wants to put up with that. You can put up with it. You know if you're a twenty game winner or saving forty games but you can't unless you're a you know a a a big time player on a team anyone or to you know kill kill trade value type type thing you're wondering when when when these guys do things just how does affect value because you know we put up with any more they used to but but anymore all right right. I want to ask you about what happened in Boston earlier this week. The after midnight firing of Dave Dombrowski of course the head of baseball operations for the Red Sox Fox here's Alex fear of the Boston Globe on Spain and company talking about the toxic championship or bus mentality around Boston sports. I do think that there is a championship or bus mentality that that follows all of the pro sports teams at this point. I mean it's ridiculous. It's it's incredible period of time they there's there's a the sense of you know of disappointment like it's it's really kind of a championship robust mentality. It's a really really difficult operating environment one that's they can be really challenging for players to be able to kind of maintain their sanity through and wasn't going to raise questions. I think some of the candidates who the Red Sox WanNa Pursue Adam Brusque's replacement I think it's still a very appealing job but the fact that they replaced to guy less than a year after a record setting season is going to raise. He's some very interesting questions about well. Okay then so what are your standards for success. And why are you going to tell me you're not going to fire me after x months on the job yeah when I covered the Yankees George Steinbrenner was the owner I referred to that as the Steinbrenner doctrine is that if you don't win the world series then you suck and that sort of situations nations developed around the red sox expectations from ownership there bob. What's your read on who could potentially be in line here for following. Dave Dombrowski head of baseball OPS still thinks it very appealing job and this goes past wins and losses a member simply wins losses Dave Dombrowski what had extension spring in training you know. Alex Cora got one. Dave Dombrowski wanted one and reaching out to Dave and may cause. He's very upset about it. You know he downplayed it but it was clear or you know I I in a ball more than wins and losses. You know maybe it'll come out. You know some day I keep hearing someone with red. SOx Routes I. I can't imagine Theo Epstein going back but the name doesn't go away. you know Mike in Arizona but I can't imagine max letting you know letting him interview there. even. Allard Baird was red SOx employ now. This isn't gm the mets but you keep hearing someone. That's going to be someone that they're very comfortable with that that used to work for the Red Sox sell. There's only out there. You know a lot of great names. You Know Jedi warriors a number two guy in Chicago so they will let him go 'cause then he'd be the top guy there with red sox. Dare give you a piece of Pie or some ownership to Theo Epstein to come back so I think they're going to go after the big dogs here I try to try to lure them back and he's Peter Gammons mentioned in the podcast yesterday. It's a fascinating is needing question when you're talking about the scene because when he left the Red Sox after two thousand eleven season. It was ugly like he was persona. Non Grata there as far as the red sox ownership was involved but you know over time I mean no. Nobody had uglier exit in Boston. The Manny Ramirez and he was brought back out to throw out the first pitch he was honored there and you do wonder is the red sox look ahead and they try to reshape the team and Sam Kennedy the president of Course Childhood Friends with Theo Epstein to me one. I think that if you're the red sox ownership you almost have an obligation to ask the cubs about the Oh and to ask has theo what he wants. I and I tell you what if he wants that job. If Tom Ricketts and Theo were to come to you and say you know what it's time for me to go back home home. I'd have a hard time standing away that given that he's gone to Chicago and he's really giving cubs what they were looking for. It feels I know the last few years have been disappointing for the cubs but it does feel like mission accomplished for what was brought there to do you agree with that. I I think they would let them go. I mean obviously it's it'd be a lateral move. He'd you have to get some kind of You may ownership stake in you know I think does want to own a team or be part of the ownership ranks you know with with the Red Sox rex granted to him and I think the Oh could sell it to Chicago people and Tom rickards by saying hey January's been gm before he can certainly do it. He Jason McLeod cloud together in Boston. I mean in San Diego as well so you know you're you're good hands here with with those two guys so yeah. I don't know if the Red Sox folks would step that far. You know give him a piece of team. You know it was like billy. beane has a small piece of the Oakland A.'s Yeah. What do you think the reaction would be if the red sox actually if John Henry Timewarner put the history aside an actually hand went to them and said look we want you back. I think it was you know ask a question saying okay along the contract on the highest paid. GM and baseball right now is good. Take something something thing more than just money here you know. Do I have full autonomy. Get I make a lot of movies I am. I involved more than just the baseball operations part part because you you know I I think they'll get gets bored. At times I mean he's already won the world series in Chicago. much better place than you were waiting. I got tare in in and see where it takes. I think if they can get a more at times more with the cubs but I think this be a new opportunity opportunity and I think anybody that knows. Theo knows that when this contract is up he's finally leaving Chicago anyway to go onto different things yeah. I think there would be two conditions to your points one essentially you know for lack of a better way to describe it a lifetime contract like. I don't think he would want to be there are and then be immediately be put on notice if they had a couple of bad years and to an option to buy the team whenever John Henry decides to sell the team. What do you think yeah. I I agree with you the option part you know certainly he's got a lot of friends in high places where they can raise the money yeah. Eddie better. You'll save time. Edry walks out or John Henry. You know I wonder jumps out. you know we can make a move here. in get steak because that's one thing you hear here from the friends that he would like to be in the ownership ranks that that would be the next step I thought it was gonna be left the cubs but yeah. I mean you. Maybe leave a couple years early all right Bob. Thanks for doing this great to talk with you. 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Both th th th that comes with good and bad news the good news is that of course off the market for the for the scores of eligible women that listen to this podcast. I've been dying to know that but it's bad news because she's a yankees. Fan and I like most people hate the Yankees. So the the good the thing is that she's much more passionate football fan than she is a baseball fan but her mother bought me a Yankees t shirt last year for Christmas and I frankly haven't worn at once yeah that that's a hard one like you have in the in laws gave me a shirt a team that you hate. I hope she did with a sense of humor. which even I think it was more? We're based around ignorance like Oh you like baseball. Here's my favorite baseball team so this is this is a football family as you can clearly tell but I don't have to massage my way through that one yeah and try. I know you had some thoughts on this. What is the total number of beers will be consumed by you. Hembo at the wedding. I need those kind of numbers. I don't know how many beers that I will consume but I'm sure my buddies will will break New Jersey. Here's the state records and pro pro probably get the municipality in trouble for some sort of noise complaint that that's the kind of friend I have for some reason engendered in my life but look I'll have. I'll have a full cavalcade of numbers for you in my week back from the from Aruba and I'm hoping to have a nice little son. Go with no buster how much you love spending time on the beach. Oh I just nothing better than sitting on the beach and just frying read now pretty bad. Just can't handle it. I've seen darker shades of milk. Frankly all right. You know enough insulting me. Let's get to this week's notes starts Walker Beulah who starts on Sunday baseball for the dodgers against the mets the dodgers staff includes the lease era leader on June review and perhaps the greatest starter of all time in Clayton Kershaw but Walker Bueller should be the dodgers game one starter in the postseason season and I'll give you three reasons why I buster pounds the strike zone Beulah ranked second among all qualifiers in strike percentage and percentage of pitches thrown in the strike zone as a result he was the fourth lowest walk rate in the League to he has multiple put away pitches beulah ranks eighth in fastball strikeouts but also has twenty plus strikeouts using curveball his slider and his cutter. He's the only pitcher in baseball with that distinction. Three is effectiveness does not Wayne late in games. Opponents are betting one ninety four four with a five sixteen opium against him after the sixth inning and given the dodgers bridge issues in the bullpen that as a welcome sight and if there was a statistic for confidence he'd be running all other players in baseball Nevada Walker exactly that one hundred percent. He has a lot a lot of confidence and I suspect we'll be hearing from on Mondays podcast. The Houston Astros are beginning. Take control this race for the best record in baseball with those big run totals on Sunday and Monday when he got on the asteroid. They got pummeled yesterday but they are finishing off a three year run buster. The likes of which we have rarely seen I Houston is five five wins away from its third consecutive one hundred win season the last team to pull that off was the Yankees from two thousand to two thousand four secondly the Astros own own differential. You'll of plus seven hundred over the last three seasons that would be the best more a three year span since the cardinals from nineteen forty two to forty four and lastly only one team in the modern era which dates to nineteen hundred as measured twenty percent above average by era plus and plus that team was the nineteen twenty seven Yankees and buster the twentieth nineteen astros are on pace to do just that are and I know that the baseball's different but at the same wow that that that is a great statistic and you WanNa talk about a particular padre the padres play on ESPN tonight without the most important player the franchise has developed in years and that of course is Fernando taty junior consider this San Diego averaged four point six runs per game with him in the starting lineup but only four without him only the marlins and Tigers Tigers have averaged fewer over the course of the season. He's that kind of important. The lineup further only three players have produced a slugging percentage greater than his in a season at the age of twenty or younger. Those three players are Mel Ott Alex Rodriguez and Ted Williams. I've really really really wish for our. I think this is one of the very few broadcasts we have of the padres on our air tonight. I still wish he was playing yeah. No kidding well have fun at your wedding. I would give you the same advice I give a to a lot of folks who are going to be newlyweds. Make sure insists that tell everybody who's at your wedding. Put Away your personal issues. Today is my day okay but you know what that's how you knew every joining the show voice sermon is a columnist for the New York postseason analysts for the MLB network Joel how you doing today. I'm doing buster yourself. I'm doing great and of course terrible news last night about Christian. Yelich show with Bob Nightingale about that situation and just a quick question for you is someone who's voted on awards in the past do you think in the end that this winds up costing in the the MVP. I certainly think it could if you remember the narrative. Last year is a strong finish by hand really galvanized knives sealed the deal it was probably pretty close one into with bellinger on the other hand like sheer coincidence on the nice that this happened to to Yelich bellinger's dodgers clinched the NFL west so his playing time we'll be consistent down the stretch for him him to keep adding numbers and as much as we've become a very analytical world to me buster. A lot of voters are still swayed by narrative. What does it mean if Arizona was to sneak in and Catamarca had a great two and a half weeks. What would it mean. Ah Washington which teams in a dominant position to go ahead and galvanize it or Anthony Rangoon so while these other players could continue to you add to both their storyline and their stat line for the season unfortunately for the brewers and really the whole sport. 'cause he's such a great player. Yelich just won't be able to keep doing that this season and then last nationally player to win back-to-back. MVP's Albert pools two thousand eight in two thousand nine you you and your colleague Kevin Kern and had a piece earlier this week about Noah syndergaard of the mets which is primarily why I wanted to have you on to talk about that how he had had lobbied to the man's been upset at the mets recently because he had been paired with Wilson. Ramos is catcher statistically. He's performed much better with other other catchers. Wilson Ramos doesn't have a great reputation as the defensive catcher but he's a terrific offensive player and so there was a back and forth on that here was no noah. Oh syndergaard yesterday responding to your report performers whole idea that we had a live. I was livid with the conversation that's completely awesome very cordial conversation about the matter as far as Wilson another respect for the guy doesn't change our relationship editing between one another he buses every day sidearm but my only concern over dialogue with Front Office and coaching stab commercial frustration why these extreme splits with different catchers moreover matters with on me as I'm and working on becoming more consistent with her to be so joe. Where do you think understands now well. I think it will be interesting. I believe he starts again on Friday. Who we get this situation he can we could play semantic games games but this didn't occur over the last week he has been upset earlier in the season when he was matched up with Rama's in May in June he had a game against the cardinals where he did not pitch well in the cardinal stole five bases on him and he was very coast why believe going up at that point and saying something and he ended up on the injured list were two weeks with a hamstring injury and when he came back magically his next seven sorts were with Thomas Neo catching him and by the way he had his best run of the season and by the way the mets got back into contention behind the a lot of things but namely they're very strong starting pitching pitching well including him pitching well and then Rama's as as you mentioned he is a good hitter. He's probably been there right there with Alonzo and McNeil their best hitter in the second half and he started to mix back in with syndergaards syndergaard had maybe the worst of his career would Rama's behind the place the cubs and then we had last weekend where the mets had nice game Nike Day game and as soon as he saw that Nido was i. I was catching a second straight night game. it was Ronald Friday night. They need on Saturday for Stroman. He recognized that we're never going to bench roundnose for a second straight day because of that he was upset asset we could call it upset leather frustrated but it's a season long simmer and she went to management and so why not. I mean if you're gonNA take place this week and it's not day game after night game why not just have Ronald Petromin and you know and then Romo scored him and he didn't pitch particularly well on Sunday. Day and you know here we are I would say big picture. This is not unfamiliar we we the there are pitchers who don't care and we'll call it on game out there and just set off the target and there are pitchers who care a lot most famously. Maybe Matic's right. WanNa put your hobby or Lopez and you know Eddie Perez was his guy but I wouldn't even point to a a real similar situation on a championship team in two thousand nine the Yankees had situation where Aj Burnett very much syndergaard type Paul Right Hander you WanNa go blondes blondes very talented but never met match with Jorges who is a Wilson Romo's like catcher in that up the lead with this offense and and the pictures had real problems with them and his backup was Jose Molina very much in the Rene Rivera Honest Neto Mold and Burnett likes to pitch to him and and Joe Girardi had a very the manager of that team had to make a very difficult decision facade as opposed to almost was the champion important person on the Yankees. He's in the clubhouse at that point and important person in their history and you know what he did for the better of the picture and the team match up Molina with Burnett including thing in playoff game sitting or hey facade and he got the best of Burnet in that postseason and I know people say shut up and do your job but the idea is unique to maximize the performance of your players especially your best players and I wonder if Mickey Callaway Inbr- bandwagon and the mets simply give something that comforts this particular pitcher and give him the catcher. He wants the rest of the way when pretty much they have to get close to winning out yeah. I that's what I think they should look as you mentioned that there's lots of precedents for this before. Aj Burnett there was David McCone back in the ninety s with facade a few years ago when the dodgers moved on from Aj ls they basically split them apart from Clayton in Kershaw and I talked to yesterday and the podcast about how the general manager at the time said look if Clayton kershaw wanted his uncle to catch him. I will let him do that if he thought that made him better two thousand sixteen John Lester David Ross at a time when Wilson controllers was young up and coming clearly more talented catcher and I am going to be curious about what happens on Friday because this late in the season yeah you give syndergaard whatever he wants. He's the most important guy in that giving game. What do you think's GonNa Happen. I think he's going to get what he wants. Because you know the catching as other physicians even this late the season you really can't play a guy incident round and play them every day and the we we we're much more sophisticated we we actually have numbers and it's not just the matchup numbers which show like Syndergaard how much higher era with Rama if he has a much higher ups with Ronald Doc. It's just go to Rama's framing numbers there among the worst in the sport his ability to get syndergaard steph pitches thinking fast all Ramaphosa is a bigger catchers. Probably there is right now in the major wreath artery him to sit low. Get that pitch called consistently where Rivera and Nito you do so you know the the problem of course is like he matched up Neto with stroman because stroman pitches also twist the right into sinker slider guy and you probably want a guy who could help at the bottom of the zone. This was the problem with getting almost in the first place. He's a designated hitter earth dressed up as a catcher in leave without a d. age and so you were always going to in in time where it's more difficult for teams to start non defensive catchers because people are paying more attention to it. The mets went out and made a two year investment in this forgive me for the one this is this is part of the drama and soap opera with the message also right. Rudy van wagon gave a two year contract from Seattle. Obviously wants to use this conversely. Noah syndergaard is very aware that breathing wagon which grams agent last year and last year encourage Jacob Rob who wanted to throw to Rocco that he had to have to go into Mickey callaway and say I want to pitch the Devon Measure Rocko. I picked Beth gave them Devon Mess Rocco in twenty one of his last twenty five star and he's one of the young award and so like Birdie wagon has has now moved on to the other side of the table and it's probably feels to Syndergaard at least a little hypocritical if you come in and say this is going to be Clair's first administration which is what Rudy said that when a player comes up and says this is what I need to be successful you save now. I got to your contract. He's the catch one hundred percent and look. I definitely want to get you back at some point to dive more into the met situation because as soon as you would assume assume there's a good chance they're not. GonNa make the playoffs as soon as that happened man. They got. They are going to have a mess on their hands but we'll get to that another day a minute. Go tell me what you're what you read is on the red. SOx Situation the red sox situation to me US there. I'm not a conspiracy served by nature but the way this is handled there has to be more to this story than meets the eye because to dismiss this is Dave Dombrowski after midnight of a nationally televised game your game on ESPN with all with the biggest libel in town which means the The New York media is how there's a wraparound game on Monday which is the New York group is still going to be there and whenever you think of as the umbrella penis tactics and they more well known why was hired they bench Harrington the previous. GM can take the ball on the red zone into the zone with that group. They wanted a finisher. They they saw this guy would be a guy he would spend the money would spend the prospect capital and he would go for by the way he spent the money. He spent the prospect capital. If finish I I and I the third time time was the charm they wanna championship. They step back this year. They're near future now. Little more cloudy to me. A mature ownership group comes out and says exactly that hey we switch switch from Ben Today because we thought that was the kind of caretaker we'd we believe we need a different kind of care. T. Shirts to clean up our face and to clean up our payroll and we're GONNA go. Oh there we own the Boston. Globe we believe in being honest and whatever how do you not hold a press conference with this how you put it all on how its core unless you're not telling me something a- and you don't want to tell the public something again. I don't believe the first series maybe it's all just that they are cowards and they're not countable but to to me buster. I'm sitting here going wait for is there another shoe and Ali and it's going to draw yeah. I agree with you. I thought it was totally. Gutless us that the the ownership of that team wasn't there at the press conference especially for someone of dembosky stature. He deserved that and certainly the fan basis urban explanation joy. Look forward to talk with you again. Thanks for doing this own right great bustard because we're tired of getting yelled. Matt for somebody else's work biased and would rather get yelled at for the stupid stuff that we do in this is why the Seattle Mariners will play in the two thousand in sixteen world series. Oh what a loser. This is the baseball tonight tower ten yeah I know last night was ugly for the Astros but I think after what they did on Sunday and Monday that we're going to agree at the top of the power ten troy. I've got the Astros at one. I've got the Yankees to. We'll get the dodgers at three. What about you. I also agree astros at one after your offensive performance as we've seen and just I can't get over how good verlinden coal are to dodgers three Yankees. I've got four braves my son thankfully you know I have to live under the same roof as him and he would have gone nuts if I hadn't done better because they have been playing lying well of late the twins having lost Buxton got him at number five. I've got the cardinals at number six seemingly now in control the National League central okay. I've got the braves at at four wins at five agree there. I'm not ready to move the corals up that high yet. I still have Tampa Bay at six. Yeah and you have to tip your cap to what the razor doing. I've got them at seven. Oakland eight Indians nine nationals ten. What about you. How about that so all right so we're the exact same ten teams so. I've got the raise at six the as its seven cardinals at a Indians at nine nationals at ten. Where'd you put the Rangers on your list. I hope they're not like ten or something and didn't make the cut. I mean tough false. The raise last night had its swum favor. They might have sneaked in this week but here we are here. We are bleacher tweets the poster a few weeks or tweets four you wanted to continue the conversation about Dave Dombrowski. Here's the tweet from PK Steinberg at Steinberg. Andy macphail was hired by the phillies. He's a few weeks before. Dombrowski was hired by the Red Sox Dombrowski WANNA world series and was fired. Should the phillies move on mcphail. What I hear is John. Middleton send who of course is the head Honcho of the Phillies is evaluating things because even if they make the playoffs this year. Let's face it. They have not performed to the expectation of what the phillies lease ownership thought be going to the last two years. They spent a lot of money giving up a lot of resources and they haven't exactly taken off next one comes from Houston at Houston. Ken With Your Don Alvarez. Impede Alonzo looking like winners of rookie of the year. Which one would you prefer as a building block for your teen. Houston is a great question and I have not been around the Astros in the last month or so to ask questions about how Alvarez in clubhouse. I hear the great things about his acumen. He asked a lot of questions he can make adjustments and that's great. I think probably would go with Alonso because he can play in the the field more readily. He's become a good defensive. You know an average defensive first baseman based on his work and I know this I mean he's already is accepted is basically basically the leader of that clubhouse. He yesterday troy was doing research on to get ready for Sunday night. Baseball this week got the dodgers playing at city field like Pete Alonso in Highschool one leadership award and then when he was a college won the leadership award he was National Honor Society member like this is part of who he is. He's being a guy right in the middle of a team. No matter who you choose for this answer it seems like both teams will love these guys for years to come next one cousin Jeremy Jeremy Tear meany Jeannie with three weeks left in the regular season. What are the chances that to. NFL teams not currently in playoff positions sneaking wildcards. Milwaukee and Arizona had the easiest remaining remain schedules and I think they pass both the nationals and cubs. What say you buster now. I think the nationals are GonNa make it but I don't think the cubs are like I think the fact that they have to face the cardinal seven seminal last ten games will take them down and as I was talking about with Bob Troy Man I I mean you could basically just go into that room and just say you know what we're we're. GonNa rip this thing up and we're going to turn this over yeah. It'll be interesting to see what happens with the cubs and their future last tweet from nome at nome eighty-nine staying in Chicano but on the other side the white sox the AL leaders in banning in RBI a starter will pick up some cy young votes and the Minor League player of the year. Are you buying what what is being built on the south side. Yes sort of there's no question they're making progress. I do think that they need a cash injection so to speak of a major free agent. I think Jerry Reinsdorf recognized that which is why he had some cursory conversations of Bryce Harper actually made a pretty good offer to Manny Machado. There was a time when the White Sox I actually think that they would land him and I think this winter they could be a landing place for one of the big free agents. I look forward to the day I get cash injection but until then keep sending me or bleacher tweet every morning use the Hashtag bleacher tweets. 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Bob Baffert Sued by Racehorse, Winning Big Betting on the Twins, and Cornering the Alex Kirilloff Baseball Card Market

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Bob Baffert Sued by Racehorse, Winning Big Betting on the Twins, and Cornering the Alex Kirilloff Baseball Card Market

"Those two beds bowers his award all rise and welcome to the sports court of public opinion. We call foul play by play providing play by play and color commentary on the week's cheap cheap shots alleged criminals and sports. I'm your host. Anthony borrow and i'm joined by our turn on retainer michael hawes and his brother bradley our sports betting and gambling expert. We opened the show as usual by turning these brothers against each other with a little game. We call opening arguments. If you've been in a courtroom like we three you know how this works. The prosecuting attorney explains to the jury why the defendant is guilty and how the prosecution will prove it than the defense attorney explains to the jury. Why his client is innocent and how the defense will prove it. We just do it with sports arguments. Since our attorney has a considerable advantage in this game brad gets homecourt advantage mean. He gets to pick the side. He wants to defend once more than his brother. Does your objective journalist will deliver my verdict after each opening argument. Here's the first case on the docket. A racehorse versus. Bob baffert bob baffert kentucky derby winner. Medina spirits failed post race drug tests and churchill. Downs will reportedly banned baffled from the track results of the test or upheld pita is suing on the horses bell half alleging defamation of character bradley. Would you like to defend the horse racing association. The horse or bob baffert are your options. The horse man stay. Brad is going to be defending the horse. He is bringing the suit. Well number one. These are animals. So i don't think you should be pumping shit into him. I mean basically if they get hurt they're euthanized on the spot They make these owners. Ungodly amounts of money Second ball being a better. You've if you're going to be able to bet on anything. It should be fair where everything is equal. I will say that some of these owners probably have better stables. their trainers are better. That all that stuff is fine. But once you start pumping drugs into these horses that gives you a definitive advantage and me of the gambler. Not a good advantage. I believe baffert in the last five years has had in. The last years had five horses. fail tests and he's basically at slapped on the wrist with small fines in the last four decades. I believe he's been doing it thirty or so. Horses have failed. Post race inspections with nothing happening except a slap on the wrist. So this goes to show you. It's like any big business thing. It's about people making money. And if you have money you're going to get off with the minimal fine possible where he should be probably banned from the sport in my opinion He wanted seven kentucky. Derby are any of those legitimate legitimate. I mean His horse came in at the twelve to one odds to win and early barely one barely one but still one. I mean the drug could have been. The difference in the race is what i'm saying. Correct one hundred percent correct I'm sorry go ahead. i've got money. I'm watching nascar right now. I've got money on this race if my if my driver. What don't you have money on dodger. Corn says the my thing is if if the race car goals and fails it's post race inspection or they're done they lose the race. Oh i don't get in. This will go to court for probably months upon months justify when justify won the triple crown few weeks before in santa monica it failed a post race sling will the race committee. Association prolonged the trial. So that horse racing the kentucky derby and the preakness and the belmont in won the triple crown and then he just got a washington. The thing my thing is is. There's no place for cheating at all in this especially when it comes to an animal. Great where your case to me. This is akin to the barry bonds scandal. Do you blame the trainer or do you blame the plate. I mean this horse didn't have to take these drugs home on bond home runs count. Give me a break I mlb hall of fame. They don't screw those guys. But two brads points on your none of us want cheating or always trying to push that boundary in any sport and there's so where is that line of cheating. The second test hasn't came back read. Spoke about how his previous horses have failed. Nothing's happening so what. What do you do as a trainer one seven times. This is the seventh time. He's never been officially told no. Stop doing this. So my thing is you've always in any sport are any job or anything. You've gotta push it to the limit to try to win. I mean that's what we're always doing In yeah i don't wanna see. I always find it funny in horse racing or rodeo or anything else how we pretend to care about these animals. Can we win them during the race. Yeah me a break. What happens to have these animals when they're not serving a purpose anymore But i would say yeah in closing the guy the trainers pretty successful seventh win. I think he's now the most successful trader time the most successful trainer of all time. So i'd say he's doing something right now he's talk l. That second test comes back in the day of genius. And i think it's very akin to the mlb steroid era because none of those substances were banned at the time Right they were. You know it was looked down upon and frowned upon. And in in this case this substance apparently is okay to be used in regular veterinarian uses and but race up to a certain amount of miles right because then if the doses get hired that's when the horse basically is on pain meds and push itself and obviously it tested positive for a higher dose than correct. Recommended are allowed so my final thing is is if the jockey wants to cheat like i don't know how he would cheat if he uses a longer cocaine lose a bunch of nasty but that doesn't matter i mean all those jockeys are way the night yeah marsh. They put weights in their on their uniforms and stuff like that. So every horse has the same amount of weight The thing that's different between baseball in this is that the horse does not have a choice to take this or not. Human beings has the choice of if this is a legal. Or maybe it's not illegal. I'm going to push the boundaries. The trainer knows exactly what he's doing and if he knows that he's only going to get a fine. Like i agree with mike. Yes i'll push the boundaries. And i'll keep doing it until you actually do something to me. I guess the question is does. The horse have a claim as to is regarding a defamation of character. Does the horse have a right to its character. Because nobody's gonna think of medina spirit as a kentucky derby winner again if the boasts game or the post drug test is upheld. Mike yet my final thing and i don't know if this is going to my argument or maybe both arguments i just. It's it's just reminds me so much of that baseball craft scandal where you've got to draw lines in the sand because what our trainers and athletes supposed to do if one day yup it's allowable of course we're gonna push ourselves even to the detriment of our our bodies if it's gonna make us more successful. The second thing is to gamblers churchill downs. Please silence your phone in the courtroom. Thank you yeah. It's my mother on mother's day off second thing is these things how they can't have these things. Squared away before the race ever starts right if the testing done days in advance and have somebody watch the damn animals that nobody's pumped full of drugs don't have and we don't have this problem. You could pump them full right before the race. Not if i am like access. Yeah you have somebody like a security guard over-paid security guard with that whole damn job. I mean there's so much money on these races there's only so many horses like the track could do something to ensure that these races are fair. My question is how do even refund the money. Because now they'll be talking about changing the amount of money that they don't finish her get so what happens they will. They will deny the amount of money to the horse that wins to the owners stuff right as far as as far as they're screwed they're screwed. You either got luckier. they're screwed. I mean let me issue my decision. All right. i. I think bob baffert screwed. I think the the horse does have a right to its character. And i'm on the side of pita in this one because it's a shame that medina spirit doesn't have a chance in a triple crown now because of what was out of his hoofs. Let's move onto the next case. New orleans pelicans executive vice president david griffin versus. Nba officials. Newark new orleans. Pelicans vice president of basketball operations was fined fifty thousand dollars by the nba for comments. Criticizing how zion williamson is officiated. Griffin is suing for a refund and fair officiating for his superhuman superstar. Michael you get to pick the side you get to argue be the people. I ate the nba officials. Okay and that would make brad go first so back in the nineties. We started with the thing called the jordan rule where he basically would get phantom calls and whatnot but he wasn't relatively a big guy. Shaquille o'neal enters the league and just gets destroyed because of nobody's ever seen somebody that big salihi. Mba officials like well. He three times the size everybody he gets three times the hacks and whatnot. I totally totally think that he has a case here. Because zion if you watch him he is a physical freak and he gets absolutely destroyed inside. And it's not fair now if you have your smaller more fatigued players like your kevin durant. You're seth curry those guys going in there. You cough on them and they get a foul called another. Good example is lebron james. Lebron james never gets a call because of how big he is there needs to be one set of rules in the nba. You have the definition of what is a foul and that goes for everybody regardless the biggest guy the smallest guy. it doesn't matter zion. Should get treated fairly not because he is a gifted big athlete. That can move. He needs to be treated like the rest of the players or the rest of the players need to be treated like him can't go two ways. There's there's one set of rules. Nba obviously is not following. That michael your case the f. The officials i would agree when it comes to big men. There has been kinda different rules in place. I mean that's how the games always changed from wilt chamberlain shaquille o'neal my thing is a game has step be competitive. So if you've got freak athletes with take shaquille o'neal with his size zion williamson built like a linebacker. You gotta make the game competitive. So if you're gonna come inside it should take a little more to foul. Somebody like zion. Just because he's got those god given gifts that the other players don't have so. I think it's more impressive to call the game. The way disney-abc too bad got hurt but it's not as impressive. Zion goes out and puts forty points at night. People can't i guess get physical with them more impressive to me if he puts twenty seven points against teams who are allowed to get away. Get away with a little more. So i'm just saying on behalf of the nba officials. They're doing what the officials have always done in what we've allowed them to do. Was those kind of big freak athletes. They get played a little harder. Because how much funds is going to be able to see some rain showers. I am post up on somebody with get the ball. Quick basket law blah blah to me the game so damn boring if he can't make it a little more physical down in the Imagine all the free throws that he would shoot if it was if he was getting the same calls. That steph curry was brad. Your rebuttal as to michael's precedent set by nba officials in the past. So because you you are one of these. Free athletes should be handicapped in. It makes no sense so let's go to the. Nfl kirk cousins for the vikings not as good of a quarterback as patrick mahomes so when these two teams meet the cheese because offensively. There's so much better. They have to go twenty yards for a first down instead of just ten as the vikings. Do you don't want change the rules. You play by one set of rules. That's where i have a problem with officiating. And i don't want to go to complete complete computerized cheating in any sport is because i want these guys to have a job but i want accountability. I want i wanted to have the same set of rules for everybody. Michael i guess. I think we had argued about hand. Check foul ticky tack rap before in. That's my thing is. I prefer watching a game with fewer fouls called. So that's i wanna see a more physical game that used to be around eighties early nineties. What the game to be brought back six of stoppage in play in every sport. So you wanna take it inside the pain. It should be met with a little pain out solid. But if you're outside and you get sneezed on. It's a foul. I mean it's the i can issue a ruling on this. I'm ready. i think there's something to be said to preserving the entertainment value of the game And i don't think that that is done by calling it the same into pain. Does he do on the perimeter In fact i think it'd be a pretty damn boring game if centers were called for or got the same kind of treatment as guards do Which is why. I'm going to side with mike on this one. Mostly because officiating in every sport is judgment calls and the officials on the court are just executing their own personal judgment. And they're gonna make mistakes and they do all the time and there's nothing we can do about that. And even though i as a fan feel zion williamson is officiated unfairly. I think there's something to be said for preserving the entertainment value that that unfairness Allows i'm going to appeal this one. We're not up at one coming down the stretch to the final case on the docket. And let's see what is that judgment calls. Come on man. They're all judgment calls in every sport. it's unavoidable there's another you're lucky we're not a political show because i would bring up some stuff about people that make judgment calls that now are starting to get held accountable for it okay. This will be fun. Oscar robertson versus russell westbrook the big oil is hypothetically suing russell westbrook for the right to retain the triple double record on grounds. That triple doubles. Were harder back in his day. Bradley you to pick who you want to defend oscar robertson or russell westbrook oscar. Okay that means you get to go first again one hundred percent. It was way harder back in the day. You didn't have the shot clocks. You didn't have the type of athletes that we have. I mean you weren't surrounded with two to three perennial hall of famers that most players are right now I would say if anybody wanted to specialize on doing this type of stuff you possibly could. I mean don't get me wrong. Russell westbrook is a phenomenal player. But like a argued all last week. Will he go down as one of the best point guards in the league. In my opinion though. I mean he doesn't hold a candle to what magic johnson did back in the day. same with oscar robertson. Pass the ball to guys. Like kevin garnett or kevin durant james harden paul george bradley. Beal all these guys that are knocked down shooters hell. Yeah days with how many three point shots are put up. I would say half the shots or three point shots so it makes it easier for a six one guy to get a rebound as opposed to back in the day where the game was relatively around the hoop not to mention that that gave him the triple double. In that game was two dribbles correct. The score took two dribbles after the pass of the ball. And i don't think the official officials scores back in the day would be calling that an assist but i agree with you and i don't know when that changed but my mentality on that is as soon as i pass the ball and they dribbled then it's then it's on them. It's the assist goes away. I think one dribble one dribble is reasonable. But that's not here are now. Please continue your your argument. Yeah bet just back to the type of talent and the difference in the games that played. Now i i mean look at the numbers that all of these players are putting. It's just it's absolutely ridiculous and has russell westbrook won anything. No so let him. Put these numbers up to me. oscar robertson. I believe is suited to hold onto that title more than russell westbrook michael. I think god this is really killed because keeping a basketball basketball. I don't watch it. We did horse racing cleared off the bill but it reminds me of any sport with numbers is Broken or whatever will always liked to we have this misstep past that somehow. These athletes are better than the athletes today. Which i think is hogwash. When you're looking at agree. Nobody said they were better. When you're looking at the level of talent that you're playing against I think the level of mba talent is a lot better than it was in the late fifties early sixties they. Bruce was hitting homers on sixty mile. An hour pitches. Yeah and if you look at the role. When is the rules that went into effect. A major league baseball when he had that breakout year. Yeah they started. Forgive more compact. Baseball's in you could cover the baseball anymore with muddy so it made it very hitter friendly yet. Somehow we like to pretend that he's better than barry. Bonds are also trying to get at which is a muffled over. My words Is that. I might take anything away from oscar robertson but it does do in adjusted the players. Now do put up these numbers. And i can't we can't deny that westbrook's stud so i don't know that is undeniable. So i think when it does not listen. Heather triple double the record should be. His niece doesn't need to be any asterik because we started doing that. And christ with the number of rule changes in every sport from decade to decade. We'd better start having everything after size. Then just because yeah. The game has changed in sixty years. Some aspects is more score friendly so aspects is not make no reason. Yeah maybe the rules are in place with the level of talent. I think counterbalances counteracts Those role changes were doing. Freak athletes and not saying the nba didn't have a lot of great athletes peck in the late fifties and sixties. But i think the level of talent in twenty twenty one is i mean leagues ahead of what he was fighting against bradley. Your your rebuttal. You one hundred percent made my argument that it's way easier for him to do in this day and age as opposed to what i said. The rules benefits scoring the talent level is way frickin better than it was back in the day correct so it makes it easier for a player to attain these types of records. So i've opposed to oscar. Rollins put it this way. If russell westbrook continues racking up triple doubles. How many does he need to become the big triple-double instead of oscar robertson. My thing is i think that stat nowadays is kind of Irrelevant i mean you. Everybody in their dog is getting a double double a double double used to be a big thing now. Now it's nothing but a triple-double is huge. Not an li- like him grabbing nineteen rebounds. That's a pretty big day. I would say but it's way easier with the evolution of the three point shot. Those mrs are longer. They come out farther. I mean it just if you look at it. The guards and the four words small forwards and stuff are sometimes outrebounding the power forwards and centers. Because of those type shot so to me. It kind of sucks. I mean a triple double was a tough thing. I think five years from now. I think it's going to be an irrelevant thing. They're gonna be talking about some other type of thing that he player dozen the game. It's already started. The plus minus career shooting efficiencies rather than Shooting percentages michael. Got anything to add. They're both really good. I like i said. I don't follow basketball enough because honestly i don't care but when i started reading up on westbrook in what he's done and i don't think we should knocked his game by saying i don't think he's he's playing an easier game or anything been oscar robertson was. That's not really the question I'm ready to issue a ruling and maybe rule it and gave it to. Brad gives shit. I am going to give it to brad. It's pretty obvious that i mean sure. Russell westbrook is going to be the big triple double eventually but is he now because he has this record. No i don't think so. I think he's got much further to go to prove that you know. He eclipsed oscar robertson based on how much more difficult it was to attain a triple. Double you know back in the day when nobody was taken three point shots and when it was you know one dribble off of in an assist or just gordon assist and like brad said that you know. Short rebounds tend to be gathered in by seven footers whereas long rebounds on threes tend to go to guards and forwards Saw gotta give brad the wind today. congratulations brad. That lives easier to score against rican unathletic pieces of garbage extra and i. I'm not making the argument. That russell wilson russell westbrook will not be the big triple double at some point. It's just not today. let's move on let's do brad's big win of the week. Let's do the imaging rats big rats bag. Brad's big win. It away brad. Finally finally after weeks and weeks of just getting demolished demolished in the bedding world and in the sports world for that matter of fact i do they. Fourteen par lay where the last game was mine. Minnesota twins need to win by two runs. Basically not make tend to lose by multiple runs correctly innings. What he gave it gave me better odds so for my twenty five dollars beds right almost four teams. I one i believe. Four hundred and seventy five dollars or something like that dame but while doing that. I just i don't know i was like are bullpens. Going to hold a pack is going to happen. We're winning by one run. So i'm doing some live bedding and i see that they're going to give me plus three thirty six for the twins to win by minus two and a half which so they win four hundred thirty six dollars on one hundred dollar bet. No this was for more. I did another bit okay. While the game is still going on whether only up by one run on and then all hell broke loose and they started scoring runs and they ended up winning by four runs so that two hundred dollars that i had turned into like seven hundred eighty four dollars so i had a combined like almost thirteen hundred dollars a day off of the minnesota twins which will never happen again. I lost two hundred on him yesterday. Which yeah so to do and what you were before. Which is the definition of insanity game this year were the bullpen. Held up against a garbage steam and my favorite stat for the twins was at one point. The radio announcer corey. Provo says the twins have been outscored. Seventeen to one in the ninth inning. Oh i believe it. Oh my gosh. I mean he lost seven or eight frickin games in extra innings. It's gotta be in six a week ago and they've lost to since then i think the throws out this far offense has been going except for two players right and help his four bullpen is. No said was so perfect as what we wait in. Overpay the up at the transplant. Look trade wilson ramos for matt caps for christ's sake which we might be a seller this year by the fucking trade deadline. I mean the way we're playing. Oh yeah i think we are. Now this is why we we straight. We changed the god damn extra inning. Rule screwed is starting to second place. Let's follow in. the frontier. league is going to start doing when you get to extra innings. They're gonna pick you pick five people from each team you have a damn is when i am out i would show i. Oh god that'd be so fun. I mean it's just like hockey or hockey. And how would that be. I mean i love hockey shootouts. Three three overtime period. But after that. I don't mind of you know five players shoot out as fuck. I mean. Look at the mighty ducks and how successful. That movie was okay. So that's the thing. So you play the tenth inning normal and if nobody score i think you played twelve innings and then after that you can ended in a tie for all i care to an extent but i see played ten innings. And then you put your big five people on each team in here. It is. It's a homerun derby sandstone towards your you know nelson. Yeah nope nope just like hockey. Your cider doesn't count. No i love how the mlb tries to put these rules so you can't play that bullpen game with get race. Three battery matter asked me at the end of the inning. But then they immediately instill a new rules that benefit teams that have high leverage arms at the end of their rotation. Yet like this where it's just study on the game. Just go back. who cares. Sometimes you play seven hours. I mean that or says it team to make decisions on how we're gonna finish the series out at happens so seldom too so seldomly at it happens But we gotta move on because we only got about eight minutes. Left of mike. I want people to know about how. Your cornering to alex karloff. It baseball card market. Because this is one of the most interesting topics i've ever heard. Well though in my brothers told me out which. I am fucking down for doing it. I just got feel about the kid. What would you tell the people what you did. Oh i've just been looking on ebay. Where you're i think. I bought one thirty bucks. Got forty bowman. They're not worth anything right now rank. I'm hoping that these cards may be in forty. Eight years will be worth twenty bucks a pop instead of fifty cents but essentially. I'm just trying to corner the market a harm or sprint. Alex carla rookies. So i think i'm up to like seventy five and you spent how much i like. I'm just those. I spent Sixty bucks to get seventy five. Which is hard going. Hardly anything of your your gambling budget a week not turning gambling. The card market exploded at has exploded. Why how why is that all of a sudden. I have a clue because they're making fewer cards and more specialty cards. I think a lot of it has to do with the economics of the country. I mean the last time we went which is funny last time we went through a downturn in a recession like in the eighties when we came out of when we were in that the process of coming out of that the card market boomed. And now it's the same frigging thing i don't. Is it kinda like anti cars. Like people are reinvesting their money and stuff like that. Because they know it's going to appreciate rather than depreciate. I don't have. I think it's just gambling. It's like playing the stock market or anything else is gambling on. At least these are tangible items. You can hold your end zone but still pieces of cardboard that are worth certain purpose but other whatever. Somebody's willing to pay for them. And that's the case with anything and yet tied into the twins. That's why i kinda hope their season tanks like legacy off a couple players like polanco on kepler gordon in carolina leading turn into daily players. And see what we know care. It's going to be a instead but some of these other players gordon. We finally bring him up at age. Twenty five in. He's looking good and not getting sick of hybrid situations. We pull him out to put in hate blanco. Why why did they do that. Because nick gordon is supposedly a better defender than four is exactly. Don't any twins manager rocco not. My father not arianna. I kinda was on his train the first year just because magical that year was but they set the record for home runs in a season which they still hold. You just need almost just but they could have been cheating too. yeah. I don't like most of the cost makes during the game. I think he makes too many calls. Sooner or later you just gotta you put nine guys out in the field in. See if these guys be those nine guys fiddling with things so much but we just got to pray. That goes on a in here before july in the trading deadline and then you can get rid of him too much middle infield help. That's knocking on the door to come up in royce. Lewis is hurt and hopefully it'll be available the next year and a half or two. I'd imagine because he's going to be out all of this season probably going to be another half season at least until he's yeah they think around calling him up. I guaranteed louis. Be up by next year after the all star break again. I'll take that bet. Shortstop will be. I would actually take that bet to at. I don't think he is. I think they write that down. Anthony i will take that bet. Okay i don't think we need to write it down. We're recording this grads all right. Let's finish the show with an interview. There's a french student who is writing his master's thesis and citing something. I wrote about the nba needing to expand in order to contract it's Travel emissions from You know flying airplanes across the country And we had a great discussion about it and he is finishing up today and submitting it to his college. His name is monica. Saad could you just kind of summarize what your recommendations would be for the nba. I know you're writing your conclusions for your masters right now. So i mean give me a bullet list of what those conclusions would be. Okay They have started doing some stuff to towards him Action there is still a very long way to go And that we can start with baby steps. It can be as simple as binding plastic bottles Batting plane travel for below. Two hundred fifty miles. it can be a little more complicated and with more and challenging in terms of vested interests for example. I want to have the playoffs in one central location. I'm actually a more detailed version of that would be a more easy to implement. Version would be each division would be hosting a playoff one year. So yeah okay that means that at least it instead of having the playoffs in your in your home arena every thirty two year. You'd have it's Every eight-year so it's it's better. It's a start but it it's you know it's it's still not ideal And basically having just one central location just as we do for the football world cup deal in picks for me. That's the best solution at reduce to reduce those also. I didn't mention to your so sorry for stepping out of the conclusion. But it actually has a great impact on the players and measured that last year Have had far better performances especially in terms of Shooting and rebound. I think that's because looking at the same background every game right. It's because they don't do. Their time. clock is misaligned so basically if you're in eastern team and you travel to angels for the for the finals that means said when it's game time so eight pm it's actually already eleven pm right when when crushed comes. I know it's it's the the end of the fourth quarter. You feel the game. The game is starting to get really intense. So he's basically say eleven. Am in la actually. It's two in the morning to. Am discreet such a huge disadvantage especially full. Some players that can not old players are equal with respect to jet lag in time zone so It really depends some years. It takes a huge toll on them. I think that's the easiest. And perhaps the closest the decision to can take has been About the length of the nba regular season about the back to backs before he fives even though did manage to either reduce or completely radically those from the from the schedule pal. The postseason having month long. That's for sure definitely and so. Yeah so six game season seems like the the obvious choice it would still allow for teams to have the same number of games held at home and away while you know just having the same number of games played against each opponent in your division Within the ten teams outside of your division in your confronts and still being two games with the convinced outside conferencing Not a suggestion would be so jumping to a thirty two team Nba structure So this could be the you the the good meal. Point in reducing the game so now would be having a game per team Still that increases. You know the total number of games given that you have two teams so i think you jump off when you go down to seventy six game in a thirty thirty teams scheduled Structure us nine games throughout the season And when you go up to eighty games with thirty two teams can you increase the amount of games by fifty or something. So there's a confederate considerable revenue loss with those loss of games. But i think with the exactly so he's streaming revenue they can kinda offset that can't they. I mean i mean they're watching all over the world now your but in europe you know people so there's been a huge rise in pirating four stream so okay streaming especially in football where has been a lot of Actually should happen in indimedia media. Tv rights for sports especially for the soccer leagues. So yeah basically having thirty two teams playing lil less game per team We gotta be you know. The needlepoint followed the franchises. Still limiting the reduction in revenues But also having a a more competitive and having the nba also gained more revenue with An expansion team you know. It's it gives you the same time growth that you need for any business growth. In revenues to but also depending on how efficient the model is in india up to migration algorithm which the producer schedule. It could be much more efficient in a environmental friendly manner fashion. While i want to thank you for your work and i look forward to seeing your master's thesis published in whatever journal. It ends up in in adam silver journal. But at least i'll have to have the ownership i can. I can publish it wear wanton. I think i'll make it public anyways to stay. Probably what dna in a famous reasons. Join the lewa. That many people are going to read but If anybody is interested in looking at it It would be available for it. So i mean thank you for your work and your initial research because it really launched me on that on a good pass. Oh i'm glad you took it to the next step. Thanks for coming on the does the way supposed to be I sure hope someone who's going to take my work and take the next step is well. What do you guys think about that. It's interesting it's one hundred percent. I read the article that you wrote anthony and it is. It is pretty interesting that we do need to start thinking about certain ways to better. The planet in sports probably does add quite a bit with our amount of travel and stuff like that. So yeah if you can keep a team in a closer region. I think it's all good. I mean what about the seventy six game season rather than eighty to see i. I'm not a fan of changing the amount of numbers of games because of what we talked about Stats and stuff like that right. But i feel like we're playing too much basketball as it is. I mean jesus. The playoffs in the last forever as i mean. They can add more playoff games for christ's sake which they're already doing. Which i think is a good thing because now they're actually playing at the end of the season but yeah i like it anything to knock down what we're doing to the planet. I'm one hundred percent four. What about you might on this one. I really don't care either way. I think there's more than just what the teams are doing. I mean what like the traveling aspect of a sports team. I think we could cut down our emissions a lot. More in other places in the stadiums in the venues themselves from there's just so much waste. Yeah if you go to a sporting event just the amount of waste where we could be I hate talking about recycling because it's such a joke anyway talking about aluminum which is actually worth recycling. No i know that's the thing if you yeah you do any research into how difficult it is to recycle. Plastic erased impossible young. So more reusable stuff in the venues. Where from sodas to water were actually encouraging people to you. Buy one cup and get a discount by using that cup every refill right garbage like and i do that for beer at games like saints games and stuff so starbucks is actually running out a thing like that where they will have reusable cup you take and then you drop it in a band and they clean it basically shirt instead of wasting all that plastic. So yeah i mean there's definitely ways around wastefulness as a country that whole all right boys. I think that was a pretty good show. Maybe the best one we've done so far.

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4/14/21 - Hour 4 - Drafting Brady, A Retirement Of Sorts, Yelp Reviews, Gio's Wake-Up Call, Some Things You Can Un-See, An Update, MOTD  And A Boring Beer Delivery

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4/14/21 - Hour 4 - Drafting Brady, A Retirement Of Sorts, Yelp Reviews, Gio's Wake-Up Call, Some Things You Can Un-See, An Update, MOTD And A Boring Beer Delivery

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I just pull out and get out when you guys back when you gotta just pull in you guys are backing up three four moves you gotta get up one move nella backup cameras you back up one. Move out either way either. You're going to be making three or four moves either way just depends on when you wanna do it john. I wouldn't be upset without too much back in and he didn't really seem to didn't upset me that he doesn't like that i do that. I i i just feel like there's no problem. I mean johnny. John john with you next time you see our parking lot. Slot upside the head. Make them feel better. But that's always like the type of car days right like mustang guy corvette guy fifty guy f one fifty guy guy. No no no no no. I don't want to say your car. But you're like a little tic tac. Not a sensible not a sense of like you know like like what a teacher would your. I like geo explained like an art teacher might drive like guys that are really into their cars and into cool cars. They fact their cars. In every time. I pass al's car parked in the street. I look in the back seat to see his easels in there because he tries a car that a middle school our teacher would be drive. You know what else. John doesn't care about ratings. But back in my mustang into a spot. Not listening to podcasts. I'm your little the weirdest things bother you all. Yeah yeah. I don't know why but that does bug me the backing despite the podcast thing yesterday. That trump spots i mean. I can't just bother me cable galleries right. How do you. How do you find the time to be so aggravated. I have plenty of time. 'cause women listening this stuff and i hear that really gets me going is when i hear commercials for podcasts. That i know are terrible or one. Radio show has guest on or something. Yes jammed bothers me as well. You know what it is. And i don't wanna be sounding like one of these pretentious people or or anything like that. But what what it is and i understand your dog owner now but but you you. You don't live with your girlfriend and you don't have children when you're presented with the things that come with that and there's obviously great things that come with that too but there's also lots of issues that come with it the little things then all of a sudden going. 'cause i used to be the same way. People used to look at me like i was a psychopath because i would get worked up over the dumbest stuff and then they'd be like. Why are you worrying about that. The thing everybody used to tell us how you really feel about that. Greg innings to hate. That didn't really feel it when people used to say. It's just a game when it came to sports that you still. It's not just the game. It's why i was a nutcase but when you have these things that come into your life and distract you those little things right. Those little things. I still get annoyed by but then there's always a bigger issue to do. That's probably has something to do with trying to diagnose. I talked to a therapist many years ago and i was like. I don't think. I have kids. Because like i get hung up on all these things now imagine if i had a kid i'd be hung up on everything the kid was doing and she said you know because you wouldn't have time or you wouldn't even think of those right 'cause you be so into taking care of the kid. Yeah problem is you have way too much free to lot of free time. Yeah time though. I'll give you an example last night true story. I am exhausted because the day was long. Dealt a lot of could house getting the house in order to great. I don't wanna complain about it. A lot to do especially with the show so i finally after. Sabrina struggles to go to sleep. We finally got her to sleep. I just i go into bed. And i'm done. I mean i just. I fall asleep within canseco. It's done then. All of a sudden. I hear i start to get pushed. Hey hey greg hovering over. Oh you're in a new house now. There's probably all new sounds and things like that. I wake up and i'm like totally. I can't figure out if it's a dream or not. And i see that there's because we don't have blinds yet in the house there's orange lights that are like i could see in the ceiling of the place meaning that there's something outside. You guys getting busy with outlines now now. Okay getting busy so so i was able to enjoy that apparently so She goes outside. What these people doing. So i look outside and it's it's two guys would hard hats on that are clearly in a utility truck that are working on a poll. Asplund i yeah. Something must to happen there are. We didn't lose power anything some must add. So there's two guys to take a look at something you know. They have the truck lights on and everything stepped on our property. What do you think they're doing. So i'm like nothing shotgun out. No nothing i said. What do you think these people are going to show up. Murderers disguised as utility workers. That are going to come into the whole and moore so they could be. They could be people that go around looking for people who don't have blinds film for the windows out of the bucket. We're getting a blinds soon enough. But they are ordered their ordered hell's designer waiting on so anyway so she goes. You're not worried about this at all. I said no. Why would i be worried because you don't want to go outside and ask them what they're doing so she's whispering this whole time. Yeah and i turned mom. I get it. Got dogs people working on a telephone pole. Or they're gonna do. Do you think that if you want the blinds direct and had blinds known this because she wouldn't have seen the yellow light probably. Yeah probably but blinds. Yeah i can. I can't believe you don't have blind. Well i'm not slots already. Doing you put a towel up their tape. Ital- just nothing right now. I mean just nothing just they. We have windows of somebody came in the second we closed on the house and measure them and we ordered them and the first thing we did. But you know you. Can't you move into a house and you don't have the access to it. You have to close on it so you have windows in your bathroom. Yeah but that's like one of the things that people take for granted god. I forgot to put the blinds up. Yeah no it'll it's fine but the point is that that's the type of sounds like somebody slackening me. No there's no slips slacking until no no no slack at all. We were moving at a good pace. We are moving at a done. I gotta you gotta get things done. And it's got to be dong with going on. They're getting done telling done now. Yeah i know well. It's it's about the fastest pace that we can make it out but yeah so. That's that's one of those things and this morning. I got a picture of you know four things that aren't working in the house. You know good no nothing. Just four things at our work. Well that's what happens when you move into a house. This is what i'm saying. So i can't get upset about podcasts. Numbers i get upset about people backing into parking spots because anytime that a little things starts to bother me. I am presented with a problem at my home with my family that i need to address and those other things get pushed to the side. I heard one of your dogs pooped in its bed. That's right. I got a picture of that this morning. That's a problem not is nuts. There's i've told you that they've been having issues so she's not comfortable yet. No neither neither one of them. I mean it's like roleo. They're both each other don't they. They do but they're totally confused. It's getting a little bit better. It's gotten a little bit better in the beginning. I was really worried. But they're still adjusting. He's supposed to do see these things that you have to worry about right. You're when you're the the leader of your pod you gotta take care of these. Big shoulders bigs no. I know but the point the point. The point is that there's always. There's the little things that you get consumed with all our your family's little things like you're not worried about somebody backing into iraqi. Spa gets eliminated from yet. It's all the little things that are in your own inner circle in your own world and all these little things dog poop utility workers whatever it may be a remote control whatever control whatever those are the little things you take over your brain. You know what it's like. Oh yeah. I know what it's like so i don't know what's better out. I don't know being obsessed with the little things that other people do. You can't control the little things and your family. I don't know what's better. But i will say that. I do like the fact that those things don't bother me as much as they used to. But i know exactly where you're coming from. I used to get obsessed over the dumbest off people's bumper stickers. The y the way people said words they call people chief and stuff like that that would use to think little things used to drive me insane chief. Our boss or anything like that like that. No hate that stuff. Fa hefei bigeye began things like that. Love sports love. Culture will have a brand new podcast called take line by me acing concepcion and two-time wnba champion renee montgomery games so the players to the issues happening both on and off the court will be tackling the important political and social issues happening in sports head on new episodes. Drop every tuesday so listen and subscribe on odyssey for wherever you get your podcast. The morning show with boomer. Esiason and greg leonardi boomer and geo our guys are brought to you by dell technologies and so we'll get to the sports in a second but have you ever had something happened that you see. You just can't unseat like i would think if you saw al nude you probably wouldn't be able to unseat at right. I know exactly what you're yes. I've sold out naked. Yeah hopeful yeah was either vegas mohegan sun or something like that. So is ashley or full-frontal rather not say you saw his penis. I've rather not say were you did. Vote pena's no one. Seen my weiner far as i know wait a second. You saw him naked. And you've been holding onto this for a long time. I mean. I saw something. I really needed discuss. Wow how's he packing knock. Great say anything mike. Craig was in a robe. You were an aerobics eating cheese or something. I don't as well as i remember seeing you in your underpaying so we we had a. We shared a hotel suite right. Yeah that's what i'm walking around your underpants somewhere. We play in hide the wrench. No one told me that ballgame and we'll be there well what i saw that. I can't unsee his. i can't see that either. Thanks jerry. Well i mean listen you saw not me and now this has nothing to do with nudity. But this was your your pals. Da in sean. Marash on cbs. Sports radio network. Okay so these two dorks put out a video of them listening. And i love these guys but good lord they were listening to do a leap love duly online and just take notice of how they're singing and the reaction at the end. Never mind the dancing that you can't see which was bad enough good refreshing the. Da was going bop. Bop the orgasm at this was marash. God wow incredible if you saw it. It's even better. I promise you holy smokes. So yeah that's That's what's happening in your old stomping grounds. And there's there's no one there to tell them no apparently not there doing that hence why he is going. That's really showing marash man. That sounds sounds very. i don't even know. do you think it is andrew bogusch. I guess it would sound. We heard again. oh again. oh oh oh. Oh that's barrage. He really likes to all the lord. Yeah i found that a music and that was just a little while ago. So that's what you're missing. Meantime somebody clean cleanup marash. We add discharge. Oh come on belotti. Get all went rang if you will. If you're still using rings bogus get him. A new pair of sweat pants. And i believe a pair of boxer briefs for more. We have to change him like a baby. We're going to change the man. Like a baby the baby powder the wipes wipe them down so we can finish the show on the mothership stupid terrible smell coming from this man's behind mind geared brought it up. Well i mean how could you not bring it up when you see something like that so they actually did a video that yeah. They tweeted this out. Are they twerking in the video. What are they doing marash. Like he's had a horse what else. Let's see mets to to from the phillies. Four three and eight. And then now for nothing as marcus. Stroman was outstanding six innings. No runs four hits. He struck out three. Lots of ground balls. He says team really really tough. And he enjoys an extremely resilient I think we have an incredible group of guys that think we have an entire clubhouse guys who don't waiver that next guy that's gonna take. The ball is going to be david peterson. He will oppose former met. Zack wheeler later tonight. The mets over five hundred a struggle for the yankees lost to the blue jays. Three markets semi-in and rowdy tellers at home runs for toronto and john. Reassuming again right. He allowed one run on four. Hits seven strike outs for the win. The the yankees very inconsistent at the plate. Aaron boone. What is up that innings hard. You know it's it's a game of failure. Apparently base running as hard to as gary sanchez. Ran them out of an inning In the eighth with a base running gaffe as you know a lot of double plays in this game. Here was dj. Lemay hewlett blazer. You know it's just one of those things where you just wanna keep being aggressive. And so far they need to figure it out because it has not gone. Well they will have these series finale this afternoon jamison tie on last night. Three and two thirds five runs on eight hits. He took the law. She got corey kluber going today as he opposes. Ross stripling also from baseball. Just note last night. The red sox beat the twins four two so they have won seven straight games after losing their first three to start the season. Bobby dalbec had to rbi doubles in that game. And then we have here. We got time. Did you see the nick saban. conversation yet does he talked at his wife's high school reunion. No i have not so saving goes with his wife and for whatever reason he stands at the stage and he talks to the crowd that's gathered there and he told a story of how to met and got together. And i'm curious at the end of this if you think he's being funny or dushi the new game funnier dushi funny or do she drove. I broke this up in the five little segments because he talked about three minutes and at first he talks about how he was trying to court his wife but she would not give him the time of day she would never ever dating never ever go out with. She had this guy named mickey schafer that she was always boyfriend with. She was from the city. She went to east fairmont. She was the queen. Bee the drum majorette. And all that stuff. And you know. I mean i just could not get a date all right fair enough now. Remember the name mickey schaefer. That's gonna come back at some point here now. He goes on to say how she simply would not say yes and then we learn a little bit about him. I am the country bumpkin out here pumping gas every day. And it's in those days. It's full service now amazed. I like the day somebody comes in pump gas. You collect the money. I mean you had to clean windows. Check the oil changed tires. Mufflers greece cars. I mean i was filthy dirty black fingernails all the time. Okay so you get that but the tables would turn. She finally notice and i finally got a date and she had dated this making or guy for like six years so when we go back for this reunion lo and behold mickey schafer owns a service station now are we mocking him or might have been married for forty two years so however many that was minus five so i said i am not going to miss the opportunity to do a drive by just to make sure she kind of knows how she picked. Yeah i'm not sure if i'm finding this. The audience founded hilarious. They're all laughing. It's not great. And then here's the end. We draw by mickey shape or service station. And i said see their honey. There's your boy make your schaefer. Said if you married him as where you'd be now. She said bull married him. It'd be the head coach at alabama that ended. Well it didn't end well. I'm watching it to like my schafer. How many how many dinners you. Think nick saving gets up and talks. Probably thousand yes. Of course he's probably told the story before and you know it's just it's perfect. It's funny insistent right. What ended the the grade end because it sounded like. Hey look at me. As compared to hand mickey schafer exists. Yeah that that perhaps through And it really ended was like. She's the woman she would whoever type of thing but still there's a little tangent mention the guys named three time The beat the t. Wolves one twenty seven ninety seven sets up a big showdown in philadelphia tonight. The team's thirty seven seventeen tied atop the eastern conference. We'll have it for you on the fan. No idea who's playing or not playing that game for brooklyn. The knicks will be in new orleans tonight as well rangers blanket devils three nothing Goals from mika. Zibanejad are timmy perrin. Pablo butchnevich eager. Shosh sirkin made. Twenty seven saves rangers though still four points behind boston For that playoff spot. Because the bruins beat the sabres in shootout three two and the arizona cardinals signed former steeler. Running back james conner time now for moment of the day brought to you by casa migos. Tequila goes to kill a brought to you by those who drink it. All right so When hyun jin ryu burst onto the scene boomer did a sportsman about him. Eddie being the bad guy that he is was there recording it and saved it for years and years until the perfect time came like today they were held down by hinge on ria six and two thirds one run its onion ru brought hyeon gen ru. What is it how you say it again. Hundred it right is high end. Jin ru what is high in jinro. Come on john de thank you. Yeah yup oh not really on jin ryu very. Let's take that out there three years ago there you go moment of the day. Have a great great wednesday basketball or onions basketball. Managing i'll say it again. Say it again. The best part about that. Jerry was that well not the best part of the thing that amused me in the beginning. You go what is this working from that. Come from bernie. Madoff said yeah. He just died yet. Oh well okay. Arrigo noah comments after that. He's just dead. Bad guy went through his old ripped a bunch of people off eighty two years of age and now he's dead so gone all these people that were associated with the mets in the news. Now you know whether it was wilson ramos. I know larry twitter loves to do rest in peace. Like people love to like. Hey you think you'll get civil those know what good for us to be not even like you know the baseball people no way. I don't think so but there's not a chance meeting. Twitter loves rest in peace. No i know they think you might get rotten. Hell my by some money for r.i.p. Yeah yeah you know what. Be some people. He caught he got caught up with the wrong crowd. Rest in peace. Well we see someone. Posted a picture with bernie madoff because that's what people love to do when someone passes away and if they met them once they'll take the picture that they have with them and then post it be like resident piece. I have so many times stopped where i was about to do that of of you saying that. I don't like this person died. Let's make it about me. Here's the two minute interaction. I had with this person. I'm going to post on social media right after they died and i couldn't resist with tom. Seaver pez they still did. You still did it. I i might. I must have missed it you bastard. Y didn't i couldn't resist myself. Those off a picture with tom seaver. Now's the time to do is they're talking about the time off right and drop it now. Right out of the sky. good job l. Each the morning show with boomer esiason and greg nadi boomer and geo finally. I don't know how many months after this came out. I've got a four-pack of al's boring beer in my hands. Yeah you know and I'll remember we used to do the the wine. Bottling alice foreing wine. I did and he had a great label for that. So you guys down there in down there where you are beach beach. They're great job with. He did a very nice dot job. A man named ben. Douglas made those labels right nice job now rally beach. What's really mary okay. So i add the west hampton brewery. You have the proudly beach we gotta a covered and they must use the same canning company because it all looks the same. They do all day look very similar. I noticed that yesterday when you brought him and fort with four packs as well. Yeah i guess they do those beers and four packs six packs. Now's your is yours a double or no. I don't think so it's not. It's not the doubles more alcohol. This is the single six percent. Yours is almost nine percents. Now get lit up from one of those little definitely. It'll change your day. One of these. That gets me lit up. The i can't imagine that the percent the riptide. No knock me on my book. Yes so how much do you think. I could sell these to dan and carter at because he's out of his. There's probably no more out there. These the last eight or tomorrow bringing ease and jerry's but then yeah that's it. That's a nice thing about these al. There's a beautiful place for you to sign them right. Really easy for al. The sign up. Oh yeah why did. Promise dan carter. I'd he He had bought many beers and he kept all the cans and asked if i would sign all the cans and he's going to do a twitter giveaway and i agreed what was once again. No no problem no. It's just like one of those things like you can't say no for some reason he was in that moment can't just say he was a supporter of this against you. Yeah is else had done something like that. You would be all over that nobody cares. Dan carter read stewart. A beer can in twitter beer cans. Nobody's following him with danza lipson them. Dna might might come in handy someday. Never know you never know. That's right although. Dan is very a beer and a glass kind of guy which is interesting. I see photos. He's always pours at a nice class. Yeah he's a classy dude. Very very classy. Say that dan eat pretty wolfer himself. Like he'll he he tweets photos of his dinners and stuff like he makes sometimes like a nine dollar state for himself. Like it's pretty good. Yeah he's hit or miss. I cut up hot dogs. Post the stuff. And i'm like what the hell hell this. I'm eating spaghetti o's tonight. I know any posts. A picture of it is is the bread. I got from the stop and shop in the spaghetti o's that i had to eat tonight. I'm like come on put. what are we doing. Yeah pork and beans tonight right. Look at this yum yum yum. His emoji with a tongue sticking out then randomly. You'll have a log. Ooh beefsteak right purple potatoes. That fell off the back of the truck out. I don't know what it is about dan. His twitter account and some people's twitter accounts that i just can't get enough of a peek into his life. It's like him and peter schwartz. I can't get enough of the good thing about both of guys you know who they are. They don't hide. they're not hiding behind some gezi alias. They're who they are. That's that's it. that's probably why you like it. This is who i am. This is where i'm at all right. Well thank you al. I can't wait to Have these this weekend and enjoy the al's boring beer finally each the morning show with boomer. Esiason and greg cody boomerang. Geo love sports love culture. That brand new podcast called. Take line by me. Jason concepcion and two-time wnba champion renee. Montgomery the games to the players to the issues happening both on and off the court will be tackling. The important political and social issues happening in sports head on new episodes. Drop every tuesday. So listen and subscribe on odyssey or wherever. You get your podcasts. 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Coaching Through Life

Slate's The Gist

36:23 min | 1 year ago

Coaching Through Life

"The following program may contain explicit language. A It's Friday may twenty second twenty twenty from slate. It's the gist. I Mike PESCA that day for Seattle University School of law and the credibility of read the none of the reporting by the New York Times the disprove accusation against Joe Biden and they cast doubt on her honesty and veracity legal developments. Have also gone against misread so CNN reported. That read did not actually possess a bachelor's degree though she does seem to have an actual law degree from the aforementioned. Seattle University which says it only admits holders of Bachelor's degrees defense lawyers in Montgomery County California have announced they will be appealing verdicts in which re testified and apparently lied under oath about her credentials. You also inflated her role with Joe. Biden's office a week ago. Pbs Interviewed Seventy Four. Former Biden staffers. None found her allegations credible. They walk the hallway where read spoke of a hidden alcove and compartment where she was assaulted. They found no alcove today. Reads lawyer dropped her though. He says he still believes her. It was unclear who if anyone was paying Douglas Wig door. Republican trump donor to represent read. Now it seems that the decision has been made. That read is no longer useful to whatever agenda? She was serving. Jill Philipovich feminist author and commentator has apparently concluded that reads allegations are not credible. And she blames for advancing bad faith claims actors. Who are not real feminists? She blames the right. She blames the left she tweets. It makes me so livid the same people who push these claims also brushoff denigrate as liberals then attacked us as hypocrites for not jumping on this story before it was properly reported. Those of us who care about sexual violence understood the stakes and tweet. It is true cynical types seeking political gain. Where the biggest backers of read story so we're bonafide prominent feminist rose. Mcgowan chided Eliza Milano for not believing read. I disagreed with in this space. Cornell philosophy professor man who called on all of us to believe tower read because Joe Biden was the type she said to commit rape Philipovich tweets once more. It was all a game of dishonest cynical. Gotcha from the beginning with the right of course but also from bad actors on the left who have low. Can't sometimes high key hated feminists since at least two thousand sixteen they use this as a cudgel with no regard to WHO and what they damaged but it should be noted it should be noted that for all this blame mainstream process driven journalism. Did its job well an outlets like the AP CNN PBS? And The New York Times properly vetted and reported out this story and raise troubling inconsistencies and outlets like vox and NPR and others. That I've mentioned just now chose not to rush to press terroris- story without proper vetting. Megan twohey Jodi Kantor and Ronan Farrow won Pulitzer Prizes for getting high stakes sexual harassment stories. Right but you know what Laura mcgann a. Vox also got a high stakes sexual harassment story. Right it would seem right and proper because what she did was not put it into print before it was ready to be printed again. Everything I've mentioned. It doesn't disprove read allegation bullets. Note that all of the evidence since the initial accusation of all of it really only one bit that supports the charge of sexual assault besides zone testimony and that was a read friend as reported by business insider who says that re told her about the assault in nineteen ninety-five only a few days after. Maybe it was weeks after the business insider story came out. A dollop of doubt was put on that account as well because the friend Linda Lacasse said. Oh Yeah I had to. Have my memory refresh. Tara Reid within this last year scrupulous methodical journalism actually had a silent moment of triumph when it came to the tar read accusations agenda driven journalism did not be the Socialists. Katie helpers or Nathan Robinson were the intercepts Ryan Grim who may or may not be a socialist but as a prominent Biden Antagonists. And he's hardly ever written a harsh word about the policies of Bernie Sanders Matt Bruning. A prominent democratic socialist who has expertise in the world of financial matters and economics was somehow a major critic of the media for their reticence to report. Tower reads claims without proper vetting today. He tweeted about those who have soured on the believability of read including feminists women's rights advocates liberals and her own lawyers. He tweeted this. The damage being done by liberals right now cannot be overstated. Enough the idea that you can rape someone with a checkered past or other deficits because no one will believe them. Is being completely defied in service of Abidin? Re-election when you're only mode is scorched earth and when you weigh in with a flame thrower on issues you don't know about on issues that are actually unknowable. You singe many would be supporters. There might be some committed socialists. Out there who aren't absolute bullies blowhards or bomb throwers when it comes to their public presentation. But I can't think of too many personally I know some and there's one prominent one we could all think of Bernie Sanders actually doesn't fall into those traps but the tar read story is a bad story not even for Tara Reid purchase more sad life. It seems but for those who blindly prop her up without proof and claimed belief when the only fair conclusion is at best ambivalence. It's a good story if you could call it that for the concept of waiting for the facts even if that story won't be remembered as particularly heroic for any of those involved on the show today spiel where we compare eras and ages and coolio on pompey's but I he's one of my favorite journalists and now one of my favorite podcasters funny and a little maddening when those skills so readily translate in the podcast against the rules season one. Michael Lewis looked at referees in season. Two it's all about coaches Michael Lewis naps support for the gist comes from our friends at rocket mortgage by quicken loans. Home today is so much more than it was yesterday but at rocket mortgage home is still all about you during these challenging times. We're all experiencing the top priority at rocket mortgage is the health and safety of the communities they serve and while things are changing quickly every day. 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Michael Lewis is the author of Liar's poker. Moneyball THE BLINDSIDE. The big shore. I guess the only one of those wasn't made into a movie. But he is the preeminent chronicler of an interesting thing inside out usually told through a compelling character now for the last couple years he's been doing a podcast called against the rules. If you're saying. Is that the podcast with the ugliest cover art it is. But that's by design season one was a neon yellow background season two as neon green background season. One was about referees to about coaching. Very broadly. Speaking Michael Lewis Gist having me. So I think I've read most of your books and I also heard talk. You did with Malcolm glad well we talked about the difference between writing a nonfiction book and podcast and I took away or as I was listening to season one. It struck me. That most of your books are convergent. They have a thesis and most everything in the book is an exploration of that thesis. Not always an argument and there's a lot of character development so we care about the people who get to and work out this thesis. But it's all coming back to the thesis whereas it seems to me that the podcast divergent you have a theme and off this theme you could do theme and variations. Does that seem apt very well? Put I think that's absolutely true. It feels like you tell the orchestra what they're playing the different instruments play with. They play a little different and so each episode. We started with a character a role in American life and explore the role in various ways. Every episode speaks to the role. But it's not one argument running through the whole thing so referees last season you started with a literal. Let's go to Secaucus New Jersey hub of the referees of the NBA. And they look at all the game film so that is the very literal and then get more figurative this year. I had read your essay in two thousand four in the New York Times about your high school baseball coach. When I heard it was about coaches I thought oh he'd be leading off with that. But in fact you lead off with more of a figurative example of coaches which are people who help navigate the very purposefully Byzantine system of credit and banking. Why'd you go? That route couple reasons was it was just fun. There was a character from the first season named Katie highland who had been trapped in a hell of student loan debt and who had also the need for someone to coach her through how to handle the rest of her debt. We started go fund me for her and gotten rid of the student loan debt at the indices. One I was talking to you. Now you're free and clear. She goes actually no and she start. Explain to me how she handler finances and I thought this is a situation crying for a coach. She needs the money she needs someone. She needs someone to both kind of teacher how to behave with it. And how to handle these things and also take some of the burden off of her. I felt like I was watching someone who could be a pretty good quarterback but should never be calling their their own place and turned out that there was in the world and emerging money coach. That was very different from financial advisers in the past. And there's not just one place that does the one place we focused on. Was a place called tally. Where a fellow named Jason Brown essentially built a business to coach people about money but also to remove from them the more difficult aspects of manage your credit card debt and saw himself as a coach and so we put them together. I thought one. It's a nice bridge from to the next because you've got the same character carrying over and two I wanted instantly do establish. It wasn't about sports just about sports. We have sports running through it. But I didn't want to open with sports. I wanted to broaden. People's sense of what coaching was all that caused me to start there. As opposed to where you might have guessed having said that episode to is that story about that High School Baseball Coach. So we do get right back into that pretty soon and that sort of explains I mean it. Gives you the stakes? I think that episode. Does I think so too so in episode one we meet this Guy Brown. He helps coach. You through. Not Making mistakes is in some way the necessity his existence is that a referendum on what you were talking about and season one that the referees didn't work. I mean if we had proper refereeing or rules with that system we might not need a coach. Now it's not always true. I mean there are coaches for distance runners and rules. They're pretty simple. But the presence of coach sometimes is only because the system has gotten so out of hand that only an outsider can help come in and help consult you navigate through that. This is totally true. That the absence of a decent ref in the consumer financial space has created this need for coaching. And when I think of what Katie highland looked like and like millions of Americans look with their credit card debt before Jason Talley existed. It's sort of like you told the kid. They got to go play basketball and they walk on the court and Everybody. There is teaching them how not to do it the wrong way. So they can beat the front so they can beat them on everything. That Katie Highland County in her life. We're people showing her the wrong ways to do things that they could exploiter. And no one was there to coach your well. And Jason Brown walks onto the court says no. Actually you don't dribble with two hands. Actually here's how you follow through a shot. And so all of a sudden she can compete with these other players right or even to make the analogy a little more applicable to. What's going on in the world of consumer finance at Halftime? A three pointer didn't get worth five except if it's a corner three in which it's negative to the. It's not just that the rules are they're not consistent. They're unfair they're written for your horribly nonsensical everything is designed to get in that woman's brain and get her to do the wrong thing together to pay only the minimum on another five different credit cards to not really notice what the interest rate she's paying is to take to use the credit cards more than she should. It's just like one thing after another. They're all these nudges built in which is just horrible coaching. So that was the other thing going on the episode is. I wonder reframe nudging as coaching or coaching as nudging because I think the two are very related that one of the things. A coach does is create an environment in which you make the right decisions. You're more likely to make the good decisions for all those reasons because it was a non obvious example of coaching. I thought it a fun. Way To start and your broader point of what connects the two seasons. The decline of the referees is a symptom of inequality and the rise of coaches to. It's sort of like people grabbing anything that will help them compete. Yeah and I think there are probably a bunch of coaches that don't fall into this camp but a lot of the need for coaching is. I kept coming back to the idea of complexity. Like you point out that Roger Federer greatest tennis player in the world has ten coaches or something like that if you include cooks in the tradition as but does he really need ten coaches or is it just that Raphael Dow has eight coaches. And you don't want to be coached by your complex rival or did you ever read the piece where Mark Bowed and sat down with Andy Reid then coach the Eagles and they watched the game film of the Nineteen Fifty Eight Baltimore Colts. I think he wrote the piece for the Atlantic after. Bowden wrote his book. The point. They're like you can't say that the fifty eight calls were at this exquisitely coached team but the players had extra jobs the schemes. Were really simple so now you need coaching. Not because the coaches are bad compared to Vince Lombardi. It's just an arms race of complexity. Same with a life coach the Anita life coach. I don't know the world has become so goddamn complex. Maybe need something to counteract that background condition do you. Do you have a life coach? I am extremely suspicious of the institution so we didn't really go there because I am extremely suspicious. The institution as well however we did go is. It's cousin is the so called performance coach which seems redundant but nevertheless the performance coach who now has turned up in every corporate office and his take kind of kind of walked out of sports and into various aspects of business life. And you find them everywhere. And when you sit down with all those people. They're kind of like coaches. We have a whole episode on those people. And what they do their mind coaches and you say. Why is this happening? Why is it that when young person goes from the Harvard Business Golden? Mackenzie expect waiting for them. There who's going to coach them through their career. I mean that's it's a new thing. It's become an expected thing at certain parts of the economy. And you could measure their performance. I mean the people who are hiring them are into metrics and they're not going. I suppose human psychology being what it is anyone could be bamboozled but they have a way of showing that they're their magic really works. This is a very good point so no we found no objective really persuasive evidence that sort of folks going to change your life however because I asked I said come please give me give me something that just proves this works because it's everywhere that doesn't mean it works could be on the wherever here. For other reasons. I gave up trying to find the objective measure or creating the objective. Measure it but instead. I kinda went through it myself and I put my daughter through it and I watched my daughter my daughter's softball player. I watched the effects on her and it was. It was pretty spectacular and the same person who is my daughter's who we hired to be. My Daughter's performance coach was coaching at the same time. New York City Firefighters. Who All who thought it was great and it was making the better firefighters. New York baseball players New York giants football players see Goldman Sachs traders. All those people thought this is working. So there's something there. I don't have something that will satisfy your skepticism. The kind of got experience it. And what's there is? I think a little complicated but fund the same is wandering around working with a major league baseball player a NFL cornerback a CEO. New York City firefighter and a seventeen year old girls softball player. That's weird. I would say if the met. He coached was pita Lonzo. I believe Wilson Ramos. Maybe not the mets are never the best advertising for any so. I'm thinking about the difference between coaching and riffing and it does seem like when a League is founded or when the budget is alloted. Like it's never the first second or third consideration to fund and empower the refs. In fact the xfl there have been a couple rations one of the main selling points of the XFL a main alternative to the NFL. Every time is we're going to have fewer rules right. The fair catch rules not going to exist. We're going to have less. Imposition of the referees will so refereeing is really unsexy and half of your series was about how everyone for. Some reason hates the referee. The series was born in an anecdote about your daughter's softball team and everyone being extremely cruel to this referee trying to do her best as she refereed girls softball but everyone kind of loves and venerates the coach not always but there is the idea of the coach as a heroic figure for sure and the coach is usually the best players are paid the most. But then the coaches paid somewhere up there and sometimes has a longer tenure. So the lifetime earnings of a coach will be more. And I think that that might get at some sort of societal. Flaw which is to say refereeing is analogous to just the underlying conditions structure refereeing is analogous to structure and coaching is analogous to where going to not address the structure but help the individual. Almost always beat the competition. I mean I think it's accurate. I think it's where we are. I just don't think it's a good thing. Yes this is true which is not to say. There's not controversies within coaching and that the coach is also sometimes a very controversial figure as he is in episode. Two right either my coach if I had to track my interest in the subject back to its origin it was the combination of knowing that I had this coach who I know changed my life. I know that I would not be a writer. It worked for him. I know this person had this big effect and a lot of other people like me. Who played for him at the same feeling and raise the money to name the gym after him and at the very same moment that they're doing this the school's about to fire him because kids now think he's tough on the parents of the kids think he's tough on them so something had changed in coaching. Where a coach? Who once thought to have this magic power was not allowed to use it anymore. It was too controversial because it was too tough it was to heart failure. Whatever it was. You Know Bobby Knight used to be thought of one way and now he's thought of as another there so still some friction in the subject in the same way there's friction in the subject of the referee. But you're right. The coaches are much happier character. The referee you know last season I had the feeling I was telling a Kinda gloomy story. This is in. I have a feeling I'm telling you KINDA Happy Funny Story. Broadly with a couple of caveats the other caveat is it's sort of like like who gets the coaching if coaching as I came to believe in kind of believed anyway already is actually really effective. It actually does work coaches actually make you better and all kinds of ways. Simple example people who coach to take the. Sat decide whether you go to jail or not if that coaching is really important and it costs money. It's going to be like the decline of the referee. The rise of the coach is going to contribute to unfairness. That people are going to get the coach and the people who can pay for the coach and you see this everywhere from college admissions to use sports to look around the world. People have a huge advantage because they can afford ever more sophisticated effective coaching. So Having Read Your Times magazine story now. Sixteen years ago about coach fits. I knew most of the story I thought and then having listened to episode two weeks an update essentially and the update. I don't WANNA step on it. Too much is okay. The updates really interesting and really compelling and so in general. Here's what I wanted to ask you. I think when I read that in two thousand four and a lot of people who read that said this is exactly what we're talking about that we've overcorrected and perhaps the Great Santini or certainly the great. Santini was too harsh and Bobby Knight should never have choked that kid etc etc but we've overcorrected and we are now not understanding the power of actually tough lover challenging. Kid It's kind of a tough one. That's what it is. It's coming from a position of caring so the kid if he's paying attention knows you care about him but it's not making it easy. It's actually making it. Kinda hard at almost intentionally hard in order to sort of develop the kids ability to cope with failure and with fear and that put them through failure and they'll learn how to deal with. It's the biggest thing that coach did and you know there was a path he could have taken with the kids. He had where he sort of could've made sure they only played in the league where the other teams weren't quite as good as they were and made sure that they weren't put in high pressured situations where they failed dramatically inconspicuously in front of their teammates. And so on so forth he took the opposite path. He was always looking for the hard thing to do and always putting kids in a position. That wasn't comfortable. Never let you get comfortable. Because he thought that was the big thing. Learn how to deal with that feeling. It's incredibly useful and it is incredibly useful and you only learn it as a kind of muscle memory if you do it if you've never been stressed the way he stressed kids when you eventually are as life will do to you. You're less able to deal with it so I think that's probably as close as there is to an origin of the interest in the subject for me. Do you think we as a society there's a pendulum or we've overcorrected and now we're in a more sensible place value tough love versus sensitivity. We've not come back in the other direction. The symptom of a society that does not allow the really great but tough coach to coach to shake. Kids is parents parents being involved over involved in the kid's success and the indicates performance. So I I still have kids in sports leagues and in playing kind of competitive basketball and softball and I could tell you the parent problem is not getting better. It's getting worse and worse and worse parents in the dugout parents on the court. Parents telling the coach kids should be playing shortstop second base terrace wondering why their kid was benched. Parents Kinda get the coach fired. That has gotten worse and worse and with the parent is doing is interfering with the development of the Child by preventing the difficult problems from being faced. So I would say at least up till right now. The pendulum has just kept swinging in the wrong direction. And coach says this where he saw things beginning to change where all of a sudden the parents were involved in all kinds of new weird ways. They're coming to practice telling him how he should coach and interfering with the relationship that he had with the players having listened to against the rule. Season One about referees then started looking at the candidacy of Elizabeth Warren. Through this lens she seemed very much to be talking about. I mean the main thrust of why she was running is essentially talking about reforming. And empowering the referees you just gave me a thought that I hadn't had but it's I think it's Kinda true. There's no question that season one. She was the spokesperson for season. Spirit animal yes. He's a spirit. Animal and Joe Biden and funny way is Spirit. Animal Season Two. That's what I was GONNA say he's there to like buck. Yup Make you feel better. Well we need. We badly coached team right now. America and we really do need is a good coach that we've been living with with a nightmare. Coach is all the bad aspects of Bobby Knight. None of the none of the good ones. It's sort of like imagine Bobby Knight but he doesn't actually understand the game of basketball. That's what we have now. It would be probably shrewd of Biden but certainly true in spirit to frame his whole candidacy as we need a coach. We need a good coach. Because look what's happening when you get a bad one. Michael Lewis is the host of against the rules. Season two is out now from Pushkin Industries. Wherever get your podcast. Thanks Michael. All right take care bored with business. Podcast about people who've already made it. There are thousands of God's on how to become a successful entrepreneur. The problem is they only tell half the story making it work chicks out. This conventional wisdom tells you what it's really like to run your own company. The podcast covers the rough and the smooth with the help of entrepreneurs who don't pull any punches. You'll find out what it's really like to quit the nine to five and go it alone. Each episode of making it work covers one topic anything from working with friends and family to Howard anything from working with friends and family to how to fire somebody. There's even an episode on whether you should just give up in the first of a ten part series. Four of America's brightest business owners discuss when to start paying yourself they'll take you into the inner workings of their companies talking about the joys of living off instant. Rahman the risk of pain by plastic and the hardship and deprivation. You may have to endure before cutting yourself. Your first paycheck making work is not another podcast just about success stories. Instead you'll hear from people going through it all right now giving you insights. You don't normally find anywhere else so if you want to hear from entrepreneurs from tell it like it is tune in to making it work and now the Spiel. Today I tweeted twosome delight and some confusion which is the exact mix. I'm going for a fun fact about the age of a public figure. I'd like well. I like Trivia but I like these sort of details where you can found others and to public if you will by noting how old things are when they don't seem old why don't think seem old usually it has something to do with the place they hold in our lifetimes. Here's a variation of that. You're ready. We are further from John. Belushi and Chevy Chase and the first task of SNL then the first cast of SNL was from NBC being a television network in fact that has been true for a decade. All right. Here's another one. I love one. We are further from Nirvana releasing. Never mind then. Nirvana was from the time when Pete best was the drummer for the Beatles. The Pre Ringo era. I don't know this might not work for a twenty five year old. Who doesn't remember the things that I'm talking about? You know Gulf War civil war which was first but people of a certain generation. Certainly one that I am in a well never mind seems kinda current. Nbc Not existing seems kind of current. 'cause pop culture to some extent is frozen in time in our minds in our memories how we relate to it. Let me give an example. So maybe you saw this occurred on the White House grounds today. Get those engine started. I WanNa see you guys drive around and drive as fast as you can but don't get hurt. That was the sound of a bunch of motorcycles. That were asked to ride around to make. The president feel powerful like Cialis commercial with the bathtub only implied. But you're the music in the background. Sweet Child of mine and it brought to mind that spat of a week or so ago that I talked about on the show. Axl Rose v Steve. Mnuchin and I had an inclination and I looked it up. Yeah not only did axl rose get the better of Steve Mnuchin. You can say that Steve. Mnuchin should have respected his elders because indeed axl rose is the older of the two. I love this genre to compare the age of people who we think are old with the age of people we think of as young the trick is to pick current people that we regard is old old people that we might still think of as current. Maybe they're stuck in your imagination from that one big role they had or song they sang so here was my tweet today. All right how old do you think Mike Pompeo is all right? Got A number in your head. Think about this John. Stamos Elizabeth Shue. Julio and Michael Jordan are all older than Mike Pompeo why well it's just because when those individuals were born but I think it has something more to do with the place that Mike pompeo holds not you weigh in on the goodness or badness of his actions. But it doesn't seem to be a place of youthful exuberance. He is associated with an administration. Run by a Septuagenarian an administration that is in many ways a throwback. I'm not saying that. He looked so much older than his actual age. Fifty six and that coolio now doesn't I haven't seen coolio in a while. It's just that one guy. Stodgy unhip never hip doing things of somewhat cartoon Villainy Mustache implied twirling twirling a lot. Different from the guy who's flying through the air we're the cute girl who's co-starring cocktail but that tweet had one last line and I'm particularly proud of it and one actually expanded out and it was this. This is the fact that I think blue a lot of people away. If Mike Pompeo were a cast member on friends he would not be the oldest cast member. Yeah Lisa Kudrow is older than pump. Heo Pa- think about this. Sit with that. Can you fathom that universe? We're Mike Pompeo where a cast member on friends. It might go something like this. Mike. I'm not the right person. Phoebe Mike List Mariela Jenkins so how do you enjoy each other anyway? We've been engaged in deep diplomatic efforts since the first day of the trump administration. Go Way back then these days call them it like we see it accepting facts as they are not papering over them and working every day to improve America's position in the world. That's because we had a bit of a falling out Mike. My mom would car. I only wish the John Kerry had done that with Iran. That's okay mic. I have forgiven you. And now we're friends again and everything's great. I've said all I'm GONNA say today. Thank you thanks repeated opportunity to do so. I appreciate that. That is my gift to you this memorial weekend. Mike pompeo on friends that from the famous episodes season nine episode. Three the one with the secretary of State who visits conservative donors and political figures on State Department trips. And that's it for today show Margaret. Kelly is the gist associate producer. Her favorite friends episode is well. It's a three way ties a woman a monkey. The one that the couch and the one with the realistic description of real estate prices in the Nineteen Nineties Daniel Shroeder produces digest. His favorite episode of pompeo friends was the one with the scuppered summit with the teetering nuclear state. The Gist. You know my Dulas. Life Coaches Personal Trainers Strategy Consultant College Counselors Valet is very worried about the manufacturing sector debra do pro and thanks for listening.

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MLB Betting Tips for the AL West and NL East with Host Adam Burke

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So lots of good opportunities for you over there. It's legal to buy these tickets at twelve different states, head to prop stop dot com slash BT. Be for more details. Aren't we transitioned over to the major league baseball side of things here? Now, I'm gonna talk about ten teams on today's shows. I break down the American League West and the National League east give you some thoughts. And also what I'm going to do here. I'm going to send out my notes to everybody on the betters box mailing lists. I know I had some people that set me an Email that wanted to sign up for it. I still have some hold over emails from. Last year. So I'm going to add the new ones too that mailing list. I'll send off these notes from this March fifteenth segment here if you don't wanna be on the mailing list anymore. Just shoot me. An email. Tell me that you want me to take you off the mailing list. I will definitely do that. No hard feelings of you are somebody who's not on that mailing list. Shoot me an Email Adam Abang, book dot com. Not sure if I'll do this for all the MLB segments that I do here in the month of March. But I will do it with every addition of the better Spock. So I cover a lot of things I cover a lot of numbers a lot of statistics. Probably in your best interest to sign up for the notes mailing list here for the batters box and the MLB segment, so advocate, bankable dot com. If that's something that you want to do. All right. Let's talk a bit League West here. We start with the Houston Astros last year one zero three and fifty nine for the Astros bounced, of course in five games by the Boston Red Sox in the American League championship series season win total here for the Astros ninety six and a half last year's team tied for the best pathetic and win loss record since nineteen sixty that was a much better team than the one zero three and fifty nine record would indicate there were actually a one team than the one three and fifty nine records indicate they were a one oh nine and fifty three team last year based on Therrien win loss, which is a standings metric derived from run differential. So they were even better last year than their record would suggest, but this year, I've got some concerns starting pitching depth is becoming a real weakness here. They're very top heavy with Justin Verlander Garrett Cole. Both guys had career years last year, particularly in the strikeout department Cole. James more sustainable because Justin Verlander in his mid thirties. Now, this is a very top heavy rotation though because behind ver- Lander and coal you've got Wade Miley, Callen McCue, and Brad peacock Lance mccullers out for the year with Tommy John. Josh James delayed with a quad strain here in spring training force Whitley, just not ready to go yet. And he's a guy that was limited to about seventy innings last year in the minor leagues. So I think there's a spot for Houston here. If they want to be the team that gets Dallas will. But the problem is that they probably only want go for one year he'd like some multi-year security. You can't fault him for that. So maybe Houston s to bite the bullet and either give kaikal a couple of years, maybe two or three years or go with these depth options that they have you know, McCue was a starter wasn't very good in that role. Went to the bullpen was very very good. Now, he transitions back to a starting capacity. Brad peacock San thing was a starter Denner reliever. Now back to starting. So. These are guys that have a track record. These are guys that you don't really have to worry about from a workload standpoint. But from a consistency standpoint. I'm not sure what to expect from them you. I'm not sure if Wade Miley is the real deal with that contact management. He developed a Milwaukee. I don't know how McEwan peacock who have very good secondary offerings. I don't know how they do with having to deepen their arsenals by being in the starting rotation. Lots of question marks here for this starting rotation. In fact, could create some depth issues for this bullpen as well to the point where a lot of bullpen innings mounting for these guys as we go throughout the season. The thing you're Houston, though, is that there are no weaknesses in this lineup. This lineup is exceptionally good. Carlos Correa was hurt. Most of last year with a back problem. He should be good to go this year. L experiment was a little bit late to the party and spring training with an elbow problem. But he's a guy that I think is a dark dark horse. But a guy I liked to win the MVP this year wholesale. Obey very good. They add Michael Brantley great light up tremendous lineup. They'll out hit some of their pitching concerns, and they'll still win the west division here. But again, we talk about players to watch. When you've got several guys here in this starting rotation that you want to take a very close look at. We move on to the Los Angeles angels of Anaheim eighty and eighty two last year season when turtle here this you're eighty three and a half on. Fortunately, sa- bad news here this week coming out of angels camp that Andrew Heaney is already hurt I presume Tyler Skaggs will be soon to follow. He'd he was a guy that really ramped up the workload last year. Relative to the previous three years disappointed to hear that he's already dealing with some discomfort. You know, Matt Harvey obviously a long injury history for him. Trevor K hill is a guy that you know, he's not all that durable. Either. So rotation depth a substantial issue for the Los Angeles angels of Anaheim four this season. And also, I don't like the bullpen at all. They're hoping Cody Allen can return to form I'm not so sure about that. He's the only guy with closer experience. Really in the back end of this bullpen, you've got just an Anderson and campaigns Rosen and some guys that have had cameo appearances in that role. But Allen has to be good for this bullpen. I don't really know if he's going to be. I do like the offense. Obviously you've got my drought. You have to get off. It's Mike trout. Just an update angelsen Simmons just in bore Zach coz art should be better. Coming back off the injury. They've got some offensive pieces. But man, I don't like this pitching staff at all top to bottom. Just not a fan. I don't like the Brad awesomeness higher. There have been some articles here about office embracing analytics a little bit more working alongside Billy up ler. That's fine show. It to me before I actually believe it don't love that higher. Hate this pitching staff. And hi maime Berea who's going to get one of these rotations spots here. Three forty one ERA last year four fifty eight v four ninety nine x v. Eighty two point one percent left on base percentage. Horrible K rate below average walk rate didn't do sweet contact. So there is that and credit him for that. And it's very good ballpark to be a fly ball pitcher. But I don't love this profile regression we'll becoming and also looking at another guy here in this rotation. Matt Harvey twelfth highest fly ball. Online drive average exit velocity last year. So he gave up a lot of hard contact the angels better score at tunnel runs. But I'm looking at the angels under team under eighty three and a half. I think they'll struggle to get the five hundred again and waste yet. Another year of the prime of Mike trout, the Oakland Athletics ninety seven and sixty five last year season win total this year, eighty three and a half. This team is not getting nearly enough respect. I love this Oakland team this a season win total that I played one of my biggest plays here of the season win total cycle here. I love this team. They've got a good offense. They still have an elite bullpen despite some of the losses that they had, you know. In fact, they pick up Joakim seora they spent some of their resources on him. He led the league last year among batters with one hundred fifty bedded balls in average exit velocity against so he's a perfect a perfect couple memory piece to Blake training. They still have Lou Trevino. They still have a lot of guys that are very very solid relievers in. That oakland. Bullpen looked rotations. Not great. You know, I get it. Mike. Fires Marco Estrada Brett Anderson. Frankie Montas Chris Bassett small margins for error not a whole lot to get excited about here. But look in the minor leagues. Hey, Zeus Lazardo is going to be coming very soon. He looks like the real deal one of the top prospects in this oakwood organization, James cappelli and comes back from Tommy John this year, he should get that stock rising AJ puck is the number two prospect in this system grant homes looks really good, you know, by July or August, this Oakland rotation could look dramatically different dramatically different. I love this team. I really truly do. They've got great depth organizationally Franklin burrito. Horia Matteo Dustin follower. Guys in the minor leagues as well. That could step up in the event of injuries. Matt Chapman's the best third base defender in the American League medal sins of good hitter. Chris Davis big power threat. Stephen piscotty. They're going to sell it out field. I love this Oakland team over eighty three and a half probably my favorite season win total play here for the upcoming season. You know, they hit for power. They've got that depth. And also to you know, I don't think that this rotation will be as bad as people think, and I looked at one key guy here in particular. And that's Marco Estrada Marco Estrada last year, five sixty four ERA five forty four v five seventy nine expe twenty four percent ground ball percentage last season. Well, where was Marco straddle last year? He was in Toronto top five parks in Woburn weighted on base average on fly balls and line drives last season. Toronto was third Yankee Stadium was second Fenway was fifth of the Twenty-eight starts that Estrada. Head last season seventeen of them in those three parks. He had fourteen starts at home where he was very bad with a five. Thirty-three ERA any five seventy slugging percentage against in two starts at Yankee Stadium. Astrology thirteen runs on thirteen hits and over seven and a third innings and four runs on seven hits in his lone Fenway start. So was he good last year? No, not at all. But he was really bad in parks that are really bad for fly. Ball and line. Drive pitchers. Estrada does not induce ground balls. So I think there's some hidden surplus value here this season in Marco Estrada because Oakland's ballpark last year. Oakland Coliseum was twentieth. In weighted on base average on fly balls and line drives Texas was fourth. So he'll be a fade cabinet when they got onto Arlington, but angel stadium was fifteenth minute maid park in Houston was nineteenth Safeco field was twenty-second. So massive park factor upgrades here. Four Marco Estrada. I think four twenty five ish ERA not out of the question at all. And with this bullpen and with. This offense that's gonna play for Marco Estrada. So Marco Estrada is a guy. I'm not seeing you draft him fantasy leagues. I'm not saying you get all excited about him. But when he's in a home dog role or a toss up type of role this year. I will be looking to back him well at home and on the road because I think he will be very undervalued commodity again last year, top five parks in fly ball and line drive weighted on base average, his home park was third. Yuki stadium was second. And he was terrible there and then Fenway was fifth, and he was bad in this one start there now much better park factors for Astrada. It really even a guy like Mike fires. Same kind of thing. Even Chris Bassett's? Same kind of thing. You'll let a pitch to contact guys in this Oakland rotation, but they're a much better team defensively than they've been in the past. And also this park factor. Does kind of elevate those guys with that cool marine air and all of the faults era. Tori at Oakland Coliseum the Seattle. Mariners. You're eighty nine and seventy three last year. But there were the biggest overachiever in baseball perpetuity and win loss. And then they went on to have a fire sale their season win total here, seventy one and a half the guys that are gone Robinson Cano Edwin James Paxton, gene, cigarroa Nelson Cruz. You know when I looked at this latte from last season Edwin James Paxton combined for twenty five percent of the Mariners total team strikeouts. So they lost a lot in losing those two guys. But that being said season went down to seventy one and a half. I still like Mitch Haniger. I still like to Mingo Santana a bummer that Kyle Seager is going to be out for the next six weeks, which will take him essentially into the month of may all when it comes to his return, but still some professional hitters guys. Like Jay, Bruce, Edwin Encarnacion. Yeah, they're on the downsides of their career. But I don't think this lineup's going to be nearly as bad as people think I like a guy like Alex Smith as well. So I'll go to be that bad. Now. I don't love the pitching staff. Marco Gonzales, you're opening day starter. That's cool. He's not bad for average or better pitches. Couple of beds months last year is pretty good otherwise pitch to contact kind of guy, but you know, doesn't walk guys, and he's left handed and that always helps a little bit especially when you're in a very good park factor. Like Gonzales is a lot of people. Of course, go to be looking at UCLA Kukuchi deception high swing and miss rates in Japan. I think he's a guy that could play above average here especially at Safeco field. So Gonzales and Kukuchi, I think are just fine at the top of this rotation. It's kind of everybody else a little bit worried about we know king Felix as nothing anymore. Wade leblanc. Not great. And Mike leake the guy I want to settle on here guy. Want to focus on here, you know, for Michalik last year, very high exit philosophies against early in the season. And I talked about this in my picks and tips piece that we had a nice little run backing Mike leak in the middle of the year. He did not pitch well late in the season though. This is a guy that needs to change. His arsenal quite a bit. You'll he did throw a sinker nine percent last last year needs to throw the slider in the cutter a lot more. If those changes take hold maybe he's the guy we want to look to back four thirty sixty IRA last year, four fourteen v four fifteen expert average v necks fifties. Not a great pitcher by any means. But he shouldn't hurt this team too much, quite frankly, I don't mind going against the grain here with Seattle over seventy one and a half. I don't love it by any means. But I think that there's a big over-reaction to what this team lost. And not enough. People are looking at what is still here. I think esteem despite a pretty weak bullpen. I will be very competitive this season. Maybe they fall around seventy wins. Maybe it's a pretty good number. I'm not going to bet it personally. What if I had to take every team? I would look to take Seattle over. I just stick it. There's a little bit of an overreaction to everything that the Mariners have done here this off season. One more team to talk about the American League. West is the Texas Rangers. I won't spend too much time on them. Season win total sixty seven and ninety five or last year's record. Excuse me, sixty seven ninety five season win, total seventy and a half. Look. This is a bad team. You've got so many questions in this circle. Tation does Mike minor hold up for a second straight year as a starter? Lance Lynn in Arlington with command and control issues. That's terrifying. Ensign volquez drew smiley Shelby Miller all coming off of major injuries volquez off Tommy John smiley off of everything under the sun. Tommy, John Miller as well. You really got to wonder what those three guys are going to do. And really what? The Rangers have done here is they've positioned themselves to trade those guys to contenders and the trade deadline, and you can't really fault them for that. I think it's a decent way to try and restock your farm system a little bit. But also, these guys are very high risk with marginal rewards. So I'd be very worried about this, Texas segregation. In fact, I am very worried about this Texas starting rotation. I will say at least there's this that Jose Leclerc. Probably the best reliever. You've never heard of the closer for Texas. Very very good. At least if they have leads in the late innings. They should be able to hold those up with the clerk and guy. Jesse Chavez and also on nice little pick up at Sean Kelly now offense for the Rangers. You know, they're going to work with. No, no Marvin Zara on his launch angle. We'll see if that pays any dividends. We know Joey Gallo hits dinger's, but a lot of them are going to be so low here, I guess gerbil Cabrera's a segment pet-sitter in this lineup. He'll be treated in the month of July quite possibly to Cleveland on Shitsu off of his first good year in the last three. He's heading into his age thirty seven season. You really worry. A lot about this Texas team, both pitching wise and ofensive -ly. This is an under to me. This is what I've considered betting. I haven't pulled the trigger on it yet. But definitely look at Texas under their season win, total of seventy and a half. Are we move onto the National League east here where we start with the Atlanta Braves last year's division champs in the NFL east at ninety and seventy two their season win total eighty six and a half here. This is a clear-cut under pick for me. This is what I have played already. I do quite a bit. What they're the fourth best team in this division. They've got a good offense. They've got Ronald kunia. They've got Freddie Freeman Ozzy Albee's. We'll see what Josh Donaldson. Does if he's healthy dick Marquez ender? Inciarte you'll hunt. Camargo? They've got guys get hit. And the problem for Atlanta's that except for Miami. Everybody else in the division can hit to the differences. They have pitching in Atlanta does not, you know, Mike, Fulton averages already hurt. Plus, he was a regression guy. Anyway with a two eighty five three thirty seven fifty three seventy seven exit big drop in Bab had a big strikeout. Spike, usually you see the opposite. You'll see the strikeouts. Spike, the Bab go up adjusted arsenal through more sliders. Fewer fastballs. That's good. But you know, didn't get the same chase rate with more sliders. Got some swings and misses in the zone that I don't know if they're going to stick Fulton. So actually is quite frankly outside of the injury. The least of my worries here. Sean nukem eleven point six percent walk rate Julio, Tehran eleven point six percent. Walk rate last year for Tehran badmouth of to seventeen that was way off of his career Mark three ninety four ERA four eighty three v. He's a regression guy. They lost. Anabol- Sanchez Tuckey Tucson's going to slot in the rotation. And he could be good. But I think right now is more of a bullpen profile as he develops all of his pitches in that arsenal. I hate this rotation. I really truly do. I there's some upside in the minor leagues. There's good triple eight depth on those guys will be up sooner rather than later, probably. But man, even with Kevin Gosper who I think can be a little bit above average. I don't like the rotation. The bullpen is very pedestrian unless they go inside Craig kimbrel. That would be a big help. I don't love this team. I liked the offense. I don't like the pitching staff, and like I said the teams in this division that can hit also have pitching that puts them ahead of Atlanta. And a lot of different ways the central's very strong. The west isn't really a complete pushover. So Atlanta under for me under eighty six and a half, definitely one. That's on my radar as I said, I played it already. But we'll see if this thing goes back up again, I made double down a little bit on it. How about the Miami Marlins here? Sixty three ninety eight last year their season, total sixty three and a half already played the under on this one. I mean this team is worse than last year and the division is much much stronger than last year. I don't know how this team avoids one hundred losses. I really truly don't they're going to lose fifty plus games. They're probably a lose fifty five games in this division at least playing seventy six against these four teams. Fifty five losses already not asking for a whole lot to get the rest of the way to the Onder here on this one, right? Anderson is good. Sterling Castro is good. There's very little beyond that in terms of the starting lineup. They'll have a massive fire sale this summer with Carlos Granderson Martine produ way in Chen. If somebody wants him surly Castro's gone a year and a half left. He could be on the move. They've got some other rental guys as well. They're looking to cut payroll wherever they can the Marlins are going to look much different after the trade deadline here this year on it won't be a good look at all. And Furthermore, something else. Keep in mind. What are the rule change? There's one trade deadline now there's one trade deadline, and it's still I thirty I well, the fact that teams can't trade these waiver guys in August means that they're looking at two months of being rid of everybody. You know last year teams would decide you know, once they got in the late August. Well, I don't think we're going to do it this year, let's make some waiver trades while teams don't have that luxury. Now, not that the Marlins are going to be in the hunt at all anyway, but maybe they would have made some waiver deals because guys get put on waivers. Just in case they get claimed then the teams try to work out a deal if they can't the player stays with the team if they can there's a waiver deal. There's no waiver trade deadline anymore to end of August. So now these teams that are working to be sellers. Absolutely have to get rid of these guys by July thirty first so like taxes like a Miami. Here. These teams that won't be in the hunt. They're gonna go two months without some of those guys they've traded away as opposed to maybe six weeks or four weeks. So that's definitely a consideration here as well. With some of these. Bottom. Feeder teams for Miami. People are raving about public Lopez of loss and the increase for him solid. Minor league numbers. He's a contact management guy. I think he could be okay. You know, I like Caleb Smith and Trevor Richards both of those guys miss some bats both of those guys also missed some time last year with injuries, we enchant Dan straightly serviceable at home, but complete punching bags on the road. I would not be shocked if the Marlins only win twenty-five road games this year. I really truly wouldn't be shocked because they've got a starting staff that really has potentially a beaten up badly on the road, and they can't hit, you know. At least it holding the fact that they can't hit. It's not as bad because they could pitch better at Marlins park, but they can't hit and they can't hit on the road. They're not winning much of anything about these splits for we in Chen and hope in seventy eight innings, we enchant a one sixty two ERA get seventy eight inex- one eighty batting average. Against to forty five on base to eighty three slugging against two thirty. Whoa. Bug inst-. Kenan home in seventy eight innings in fifty five and a third innings on the road. We in Chen last year, eight nine twenty-seven ERA three thirty two average against three ninety eight on base. Six nine slugging percentage. A four nineteen wilda guest on the road four nineteen. Incredible. How bad weedy and Chen was on the road last season. I would not expect it to be a whole hell of a lot different here. This year to give you a frame of reference here last year Christian yelich who won the MVP had a four twenty two wilda. So essentially everybody on the road against we in Chen hit like Christian yelich, which is insanity. But that's just how bad we was on the road last year getting his fifty five and a third innings Slavi Asli. We may have some value at home on the road. Not at all. We're play overs. We'll play first five overs. We'll play that type of stuff against we in is on the road. Let's take a look the New York bets here seventy seven and eighty five last year eighty five and a half their season win total. Look this is an elite rotation. Jacob degrom Noah, Syndergaard Zack Wheeler Jason Vargas, even had some decent exit loss numbers against Stephen Matt's. The riddle for Mickey Callaway to solve here this year. You know, look the Mets Ed Robinson can all Wilson. Ramos JD Davis. Dominic Smith and Pete Alonso. We're going to play at first. Now, they've got more athletic bench with Jonathan Braxton won the Garas Dany head sharia jed Lowery's injured right now. But he'll be back. Todd frazier. Still, okay. If you went assessments comes back at all that's a big boost. Brandon Nimmo had a great year last year. Muggle Conforto closed out the year strong. I like this lineup quite a bit. I liked their balance like the versatility off Jeff McNeil place in left field. It's going to be ugly. But you know, really upset of that. I mean, the Mets are a decent defensive team. I guess overall. But a very solid offensive team problem is they played a part that really suppresses offense. We'll have to see how that goes for them over the course of the year here, but men outside of the rotation which is very strong. The bullpen is quality. You've got Edwin d as juris familiar, I love Robert Selman and Seth Lugo to right handers that I really like very high spin rate for lugos curve ball. You only thing I worry about is that this team is a little. Older. But really, I think the Mets have a lot of potential here this year one guy, I want you to take a look at here. Jason Vargas, five seventy seven ERA last year five oh, two v. Not good at all four forty two extra dough. So that homerun to fly ball percentage should regress to eighty five wolf against it home three ninety four wolf against on the road. But over his last fifty four two third innings held opposing hitters to a two eighty eight Wilbur and had some decent road efforts at in Philadelphia in Chicago against the cubs in Washington. So he was a guy that was hurt early on in the season. But got better as the season went along get head some decent exit philosophy metrics, Jason Vargas is going to be a hidden gem. I think at home in his starts this year for the Mets because degrom Syndergaard Wheeler. They're all going to be priced high. No one's going to bat an eye at Jason Vargas. I think there could be so upside and some value there with him Philadelphia Phillies eighty and eighty two last year season went to Italy here this you're eighty nine and a half. Look Bryce Harper is a big deal. But this was a strong lineup. Anyway, one thing at the Phillies were missing last year. I'm not a big batting average guy by any means. I'm definitely an on base percentage type of guy and then a wolf type of guy, but they were missing batting average top of the order now, they get Andrew mccutchen. They get gene cigarroa, they added that batting average element element, excuse me. And they didn't sacrifice walk rate. You know, they still have recess gins who's going to walk a fair amount Cesar Hernandez good on base percentage guy. Mckell Franko was back to league average. You know, this is a lineup that looks really really strong overall. And you're going to have depth one through eight in this lineup guys to get on base guys that put the ball in play guys at hit for power. I like this lineup quite a bit here for the Phillies. Now, the pitching staff has some surplus value guys God is so there's Aaron Nola, and you wonder about his innings increase who two two hundred and twelve point one innings last year. But Jake Arrieta was hurt last season. I would expect him to be more. Consistent, Nick potato four seventy seven ERA, but a three eighty fifth three forty two up. Well, over a strikeout parading cut his home run right down by about two and a half percent from two thousand seventeen to twenty eighteen if doesn't get this year, he's close to league average. So I would expect pathetic to be closer to a four ERA with those good peripherals Vince Velazquez for eighty-five ERA three seventy five fifth. One thing that did really hurt these guys. Last year the Phillies were terrible defensively. They'll be better defensively this year, though, not they won't be great by any means. But they will definitely be better. That'll help out this staff the season until just has no equity at this point with the Harper signing going up into the high eighties. But this will be a very good team will be a playoff caliber team should be right there for this division. When all is said and done. Finally, we take a look at the Washington nationals here eighty two and eighty last year eighty eight and a half their season win total. They added Patrick Corbin to go with max Scherzer. Stephen strasburg. Hopefully Strasbourg stays healthy this year. They also ended Annabel Sanchez an edible Sanchez really changed his arsenal around last season. Wanna put the second best average exit philosophy against in baseball behind Joakim Soria, and I'll talk a lot about exit velocity is the season goes along. But I mean think about it. You know, if you're able to avoid hard contact guys don't hit home runs with eighty eight mph average exit philosophies, you know, they just don't do it. So the most detrimental of hits the extra base hits usually balls to get hit really really hard. If you could minimize hard contact. You can have a lot of success Sanchez a guy that did that last year. I know people will look to fade him with his lower era is higher expert. But I believe in the sustainability their of edible Sanchez also going to national Stephen plays some pretty strong defense, which should help him as well. And look you add Corbin you add Sanchez bring back, Alex. You thirty beds starts from quad pitchers last year. Also, I think you upgraded from Tanner Roark with Anibal Sanchez. I really liked this Washington team quite a bit in the pitching department. At least starting pitching side. I like the lineup to even without Bryce Harper. Lots of high-velocity contact guys want Soto Anthony Don was the most under appreciated bit player in baseball and a meeting. Trae Turner guys that run guys to put the ball in play guys. Get on base. I Bryant dosier bounceback candidate like this lineup quite a bit too. Now the bullpen is my primary worry for Washington high risk high reward. Sean Doolittle gets hurt a lot. But misses a lot of bats Trevor Rosenthal missed all of last year. Kyle bear claw misses. A lot of bats. You know, the thing is like the Indians the Washington rotation will work deep into games. So that can help the bullpen out a little bit. But if injuries pop up for this bullpen major concerns there for them. And obviously you David Martine. He has people not to sold on him. So I do like Washington from a talent standpoint to win the east. There's a little bit of value on them. I their season win total over a little bit get high number when you talking about high numbers and a lot of margin for error. But man, this NFL east very very strong. But again, I think the Braves the team I would expect the ticket pretty decent step back here this year. And obviously the Marlins will be a punching bag and get Oakland over the American League West my favorite season wins. It will over bed here of the season. So there you go. There's a look at the American League West and the National League east could have to do some more baseball stuff. Here is the season getting very very close. 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Boomer & Gio Show Podcast (4/14/21)

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Boomer & Gio Show Podcast (4/14/21)

"Love sports love. Culture will have a brand new podcast called take line hosted by me jason concepcion and two-time wnba champion renee montgomery and the games for the players to the issues happening. Both on and off the court will be tackling. The important political and social issues happening sports had on new episodes. Drop every tuesday so listening. Subscribe on odyssey. Wherever you get your podcasts. Are you ready to meet the moment ozzy and our friends at chevrolet proud to present real talk real change to help foster racial equality in america. And we're inviting you to help join the carlos watson. I talked with key leaders from across the country about racial disparities in america's healthcare system. Look for the carlos watson show and real talk real change on youtube and subscribe or download the carlos watson show. Wherever you get your podcasts. Good morning boomer. I could be any better this morning too. Yeah last night was great man. It was great to see The mets pitcher shut out in the second game of double header against philadelphia phillies shut out the new jersey devils last night. Although the boston bruins beat the sabres. So we're still four points behind them but you know the the amazing thing is really when you wake up this morning. It's april fourteenth. So i would say in baseball. We have what g we have a long way to go. Oh yeah by the way. One of my buddies soviet last night That you hate when. I asked you questions like he can tell that my ask you a question like that especially when it's a rhetorical one you you kind of get really upset with me for some reason. I don't know if that comes through on the tv. I don't know if it comes through on the radio or no he's right and i've said it before i've been very clear with that. Would the astros to answer your own question already. Yeah that's why we made that so anyway but we wake up here. We have a long way to go in baseball. Yeah but i looked at the standings this morning just to check them out. See where everybody was. What's going on. Yeah just take a gander. Mets a played a few less games simply because of the renowned because of what happened opening weekend in washington but lo and behold the betson first boise yankees in the last just saying just saying. That's all i'm saying and i know the fan am just. I am irked. I am erc because Just watching the highlights did not see the game. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that. I saw the game because i didn't but i did watch the highlights this morning. If you're anki fan at that you've got to be a little bit disgusted you really do. I mean there's really one guy it seems like that has the attitude that you want and his name happens to be garret cold and he showed that attitude in the second inning of his last outing and you saw a championship pedigree and you want other players to feed off of that. I'd like to think. Dj lemay us like that. Aaron judge is like that glacier tors can be like that show is like that but it's flat for some reason it's very flat and also them playing spring training park to makes it feel more flat. I'm sorry it just doesn't understand the blue jays play in there too but they're used to it just it doesn't. It does not have any sort of energy. The yankees are lacking energy to start the season. There's two things that really concern you. One going into the season you know like after garrett cole what does this staff going to be and so far. It hasn't been good and the other thing that is annoyed. You is some of the stuff in the past in the back of your mind about the yankees getting big hits and big games right and they haven't been able to do that or we have a long way to go. We're still april. I it it is what it is i mean. I can't tell you knows what. I watched the mets last night and i did. I was watching them at some iphone and in the suite that i was in. Oh okay so you gotta gotta sweet. We did get the swing. Run down on the menu in this. It was great. You know you have to pre order and it all comes prepackaged okay. Everything's very careful. Action niblett puts. But i will say that the way that the rock is set up in the way that they are going through their protocols it was it was about seamless in as easy as you could possibly imagine so thirty six hundred fans last night at the rock i would. I would have to say it. I'm not taking a shot at. I know that the devils rebuil- they sold their best players. And you know. I've been down this road with my team. Sure so i know how disgusted you become commas fan and you know especially if you're season-ticket all the even though that all that stuff has been wiped out it's not fun watching team going through rebuild. It is fun when they start to get to where the rangers are getting to. Seeing a lot of those young players. Start to really show up and do the right things on the ice and be be defensive minded first and foremost and come back and do what they're supposed to be doing but there are about thirty six hundred zero last night. Say two thirds had to be ranger. Fan make sense and i will say that the rock goes out of their way to to make me comfortable and me feel good about going over there. It is a great place to watch a great organization. The screen the screen just above the ice is unbelievable. Just locked in on that. Watch as you remember. Oh yeah we're doing the games there It's just it's great and you know we won the game. We only had twenty shots on goal and of course kreider gets in a fight. I'm like okay. I get on. Easter teams are going to be playing each other three times. Now the next six days and it's going to be it's going to be fight after fight. The devils are still fighting. They're still playing hard iglesias. Turkey was great last night. Made a couple of really key saves. but i'm going to get nasty and this is what happens when you have these kinda schedules in this kinds of said setups were these teams. Play each other so much in such a short period of time. So did you get access to the little area downstairs on. I don't think that area is open. All it's not just for you now. There are a couple of places around the rock that are open where you could have gotten a beer if you wanna took and stuff i and stuff like that. But when you're in a suite just get you don't have to worry about that just a straight catering situation you know. It's actually nice when you go with like four the buddies because there's not like a thousand people around you don't have twenty people on a sweet where people wanna talk about other things like me asking you questions and you getting upset with me. I mean it's it's so it was very very enjoyable night and and quite frankly you know what the yankees name they need energy and you know who actually is bringing energy to the mets marcus. Stroman last night. Yes marceau's whatever he's doing right now is working and it's to really good outings for him and i told you at the beginning of the year. If he pitches like this he'll be lauded he'll be loved he'll be he'll be supported by the fan base and everybody will love him and his teammates will love him and last night when he walked in the. What was in this in the seventh inning or six was because he didn't come out for you could see everybody in the in the dugout laughing and having a good time. Yeah you know so the obviously popular right now with teammates. He's popular it's fan base. And he is energy. He is bringing energy. Got a lot of ground balls. Last night. they had six ground balls. Only through eighty six pitches. And i thought you know what once they got that fourth run. Why bring him off the seventh inning. There's really no reason to especially since he warmed up on monday and sure and got shut down so he was a very effective With the way that he pitch. I wonder if it does anything differently to his preparation for his next start. Giving the way that this start went and how well he pitched and may be. I don't know but i don't think anything can be more dish. Junked than what he just went through which was throw seven pitches after getting ready for a star. Then it's okay a couple of days or the next day and then he's back out there at night after the doubleheader so he handled that fine so i wonder if you like if he felt like okay so i pitched what seven or eight pitches on monday at full full story. Yeah like he was all in he was prepared. He was ready to go in that game and then two days later he comes back and pitches. This well yeah he just got to wonder if that messes a message but makes you think about the way that you've been going about your routine and would you change it interesting. I don't know that's a question. For the mets pitching stamp and louis. Ross but a good pitching timely hitting no defensive gaps in a couple of wins against the phillies. It was jonathan vr. And the first game and brandon nimmo in the second game coming up with the biggest sale. Johnson came up with another hit and he did nothing to. I have to say pete alonso. some great plays over first base. well he's been working his ass off he's been telling us and it's actually paying off. It's one thing to say it that you've been working on your defense and that was a priority for you and now we're actually seeing it. In the first game he takes an errant throw by mccann from from behind the plate and he does a great job. Snatching that one and then you know. Last night he takes a ball from it either. A shower not show it was either. I think it was the ball. That was a little high and he took it off the base and was back off the foul line and mean. That's that that's gold glove stuff there. I'm not saying here's go cover just yet but i will say that you know the defense at first base. Looks a heck of a lot better than it. Did that orsha at least in these two games that did yeah and he is the thing i really like about. Pete alonso was. He had the great rookie season and he came back and he was miserable. And that pandemic sees any didn't just say ours just the pandemic season. He said i needed to be better. That was not good enough. I wasn't good enough offensively. I wasn't good enough defensively. He didn't just toss it away. Say forget about it. I'm just gonna flush. It was a weird year. He came back. He worked on those things so good kind of like julius randle that. Oh yeah damn right. Like julius randle did and the nets just continue to win by the way i mean. It doesn't matter who it just doesn't matter who plays they score one hundred and thirty points. They just blow everybody out. For the most part the lakers laws. That doesn't matter. The harden durant kyrie all ridge griffin. Tlc it just doesn't matter joe whoever's playing wherever sitting there going to score one hundred and something points and they're going to blow somebody. I would think that. For guys. Like joe harris and say Landry shamet. tlc as you like to say. Oh i. I always screw up the last day through jones amazing. Is that for those guys to be a part of this situation and to know before the game starts that when they go out and play that ninety nine point nine percent of the time. They're going to win the game. Yeah i just they just they have a sick confidence about the way that they're playing right now and they don't have the big three out there. Kevin durant looks fine stealing the ball. He's making shots. Mid range jumpers passing the ball as a point. Seven foot point guard. So i don't know what to tell you it's all about. It's all about the plans for them. All this other stuff is nothing. I mean when you got guys taken off and guys getting hurt in guys this. This is about basically getting to the finals and beating most likely the lakers or the utah jazz. I guess the big question is will the lack of time that these guys had together affect them against a good basketball team in the playoffs. And so far i mean the answer i would say would be no i mean. I don't think it's going to you're going to give them a run model. Think in the eastern conference early. Give them around. If milwaukee probably not either i mean i i would say if the lakers get healthy because of the depth of their roster and they want it last year in the bubble if they are i mean. I'm talking fully healthy. Anthony davis lebron james. Maybe maybe but outside of that these guys will just show up whatever versions of themselves. They are whoever's playing and they're going to skate. They are that i mean. That's that's the way i i don. I would be floored if they didn't make it to the finals. And i just got to see who their meeting in a final now. Did you see this and i. I don't know. I think it's serious. I looked at it like four or five times. And i think it's serious. Okay albino who anthony edwards is i do you do because that i'm going to say correct now. I knew he was a basketball shoe. Only know this. Because of what. I'm going about to say no. I've heard his name in the past and i would have guessed. He was high draft. Pick the number one overall. Pick this past year all right so they asked him in a sense. Do you know who altro rigas what he say. No no no no how does how do you not know. Well-trod says i don't find it all that surprising. I really don't like alex is what he's been out of the game. What for four or five years now. Been longer than that. I guess has been. It's been longer than that. That was the two thousand twelve. I wanna say probably closer to their than two thousand and nine years. He's been out. Come on all right so it's Actually know what it was. It was the last season was two thousand sixteen. So you're right you're right i guess about five years okay. So i was right. How how does that. Who is now. Anthony is probably eighteen or nineteen years old. Yeah he is. He's nineteen years old. It has no idea who eras. I don't think it's that crazy. Does he know who jennifer lopez. I'm sure he does. I mean that would be the way that he would know who eras. I thought that was so. My question is really. Do you think it's true. You think he's medicine and by the way he plays with his hair more than you play with your air. I know which is a feet all right. So is i know he went to georgia but is he was born in atlanta. I'm assuming he spent most of his time in georgia's well if he ended up being born there and then going to georgia that he lived their high school he went was in atlanta so i mean atlanta not the biggest baseball town. He's basketball star for his entire life. I don't think it's that far fetched. I really don't you gotta remember. I mean we lived in breathed a rod for so long around. It was such a big story though. I mean everything was all a rod literally for almost two years. But if you don't care about baseball right at all. I mean he's an athlete. I know you kind of think that you would be checking in on things right now. I'd jerry is going to have the full audio. Yeah once. I hear that i'll be able to televise. Messenger not kate. Don't you have that. Like i think ten you can tell the thing is is like he. He comes off like Like he's likable. I mean it's sitting there messing with his hair just like you do. Yeah but i couldn't believe that he didn't know who i rod was. Yeah i mean. I don't find that all that's the problem is a lot of so i bet you. There's a bunch of people his age and that he could throw names of people that are way more popular than a rod is right now that we wouldn't know that are either in music and we do know dua lipa we know. Don't let your cat. We know doja cat. Come on man we know you did the commercial with her on tiktok charlie d. m. o. Yellow or whatever name is we d m mealy oh mainly demilio we know her we know does not ex- we don't yeah little he's been in the news We know little baby indo baby. We know a few the baby the baby. Yeah yeah i'm more of a dub ab guy little guy. i am well. That's good. I just just for just to make sure we got faxed. What would try to do here. We're trying to cross over to see who knows who and who does. I'm not saying that. But it's a rod for god's sake. Yeah so i mean he's all over the place yeah in via but he's he's on. Espn he's he's everywhere. Yeah i know but if you don't care about baseball then why would you care about a rod and think about it. I mean. I bet you i mean there are the who do you think the a rod equivalent would be in basketball. Don't have to be somebody that has retired. Well dwayne wade twain weighed. But it wasn't a lot a ca some controversy with him. Dwayne wade like in other words. Here's a you know all star hall of famer abor. It's probably going to get in the hall but you know still that type of player that dow has been retired. You think every eighteen to twenty year old major league baseball player knows who dwayne wade is. Maybe not the international baseball players. Okay you may. They may not know all right. I don't know. I don't find it all that farfetched. Do you think it's crazy. That anthony edwards doesn't away right his out. No because jerry was breaking it down for me for his age and when they arrived was big. Yeah they rod not been in the news ever since he got here but not in his news. That's the thing everything is tailored to whatever you want. His world has been ongoing to be a basketball superstar. These are the things i like. These are my friends. What they like. A rod dawson penetrate any of that. It doesn't on the outside looking in. Iran doesn't get into that world. He's he's built with fiance now. For how long beyond say jennifer lopez for how long. It's been a little bit but there for a guy who's eighteen nineteen years old. They're all. i'm sorry they are. I mean it's not like the hot young couple they're older. They're in their fifties through think about it. Was there a fifty year old couple when you were eighteen that you're paying attention to probably i don't remember exactly probably not I don't think again. But then again i'm in unique guy because i i am a fan. I was a fan of these sports growing up. Yeah so it's not. Just okay. I wanted to the nfl. And i wanted to be a quarterback. Yeah but i always was rooting for the mets always rooting for the next always really for the rangers always following those sports. I kind of knew everything that was going on. And all those sports all right. So allie who does make up for us had to google you. The first day that she worked she did. Yeah she told you that Why don't you tell you that wasn't that long ago. It was it was a conversation. Did not know who you are now. This is someone who has grown up on long island through. You are really shooting me down during the airport. Crying out loud down right now. I'm just trying to tell. Why do you have to bring that up. Why did the bring her up to make the point that younger people don't always know the great so she never told me that. Well i'm like really disappointed. Right now yeah. It's the truth. I i need to hear. It is the truth right. Just letting i'm just letting you know you. I know you don't wanna believe hearing this. It's true to say. How old were you. I was here in nineteen years old. Go had to ask my dad who you were on your dad via you know we knew i had to ask your sister new. I got no no. I don't know you didn't know i had no idea. You're you're not a sports person. But now dan marino was on there and it takes me down. I'm like who's this guy. Dan marino to a makeup for kidding me right exactly see just furthers. The point the she's not. she's not an athlete. Though you in an athlete right now you had no interest in sports whatsoever. I mean i ran track but i didn't follow. No i'm talking about like you didn't follow sports like you weren't a jet fan growing up or giant fan or any of that stuff now. Well seats that's eighty edwards. A baseball fans overall pill lining rattle off every nba player. But he wasn't a baseball fan. I just want you to know that. Actually disappointed google you. I was impressed by u. Okay very good. that's but it just. It just proves the point or husband. Oh well of course. I mean south for crying out loud knows everything about us right now. I think he's showed up at my house yesterday. Just to hang out in the yard a he's the man he's got a mullet because of me too so let me ask how this because how outworked in sports i get. You knew that who craig was. Obviously because you guys have been friends. Yeah you may right two thousand and seven. Yeah no. I was a huge. Nfl fan lamb. Yeah because you're a big eighties fan. And i love the eighties. Seventies eighties nineties now. You're worried that other people didn't know who you are. We all right here. I would think a sports fox knew the yeah. Of course i mean come on everybody. All of us in the newsroom. Couldn't wait to tell me that could you. I just could not and had that discussion start. I think it was some other discussion like this about not knowing people or who was who. I don't remember then. She offered a ask no no she offered. She offered that information. And i knew it would affect you in some way. So i kept it to myself but in this discussion that we were having. Yeah and this sort of disagreement. I had it in my back pocket. I presented it to you at this time disagreement. I'm just i'm just asking like wh. How could anthony edwards not know who he said athlete. I i was like what edwards was a kid a. Rod was right in the middle of everything he didn't like baseball. I mean that's really what it comes down to. You don't like baseball. You're not a baseball fan. A rod means nothing to you. That's what it comes down to sorry to say. I'll tell you who i would. I'd freak out for rob manfred. And i heard that i feel like what one of the biggest names in the sport. This guy has no idea who it is. Nineteen year old first overall draft. Pick in the nba. He'd never heard a rod. What does that say for our game. That's what i would say. That would scare me love. 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We are brought to you by town fair tire. Nobody beats town fair tire. Nobody and i figured let's get an wrap up the anthony edwards thing because boomer mentioned it talked about it. Here's how it sounded after the nets beat them last night or yesterday afternoon. One twenty seven seven as he was indeed asked about a-rod about are you an era fan at all growing up or anything like that. What you think about what he might bring the team fans louisville Who is he. He was told who a-rod is baseball player. Acts rigas okay. I know he's to be owner. But i don't know about baseball now. That's interesting and i'm with you g. I totally agree with them. Agree with you. The problem you have and this is clark on twitter. Just posted this. I'm gonna play this for you. I it looks like him seems like him. And it's on t. wolves tv he's doing a sitdown with a host. I could've went to mlb. And i'll be. I am not surprised. i'm serious though you know i just. I love your confidence. Did you play play pitcher. Shortstop third base centerfield. Those are the prime position. Won't they won't tell you so for someone that doesn't know baseball. It sounds like he played baseball. That's interesting i but he also was just a supreme athlete. I know that doesn't mean that he was watching baseball or caring about baseball. It was just what i'm sure. Whatever he did he was great at i can. I'll tell you this though so my younger son. Joseph head does not care to watch it at all like so he would rather he'd rather do fifty push-ups than watch a baseball game with me but loves playing that having been said there's so much conversation in dugout. He at least knows who the guys are. Yeah yeah. I would the way that he answered. That question tells me all i need to know. Well which is he really has no idea about. I would say so too. Kevin on the jersey shore cap. What's happening brother. What's going on guys doing man. Hopefully your days golden as good as mine is. What's going on. Nothing much. Boom i just wanted to give you a reminder brother you your thank sixty right yeah thanks thanks for the reminder. Yeah watching you. We craigie since. I was probably like twelve years old. Yeah love to show you guys are awesome. Obviously geotech over. He's a man but I had to go to when i was it to my dad's alone suffering jet fan. So am i. I was born in ninety four. It wasn't that the end of your tenure jets. Ninety five actually was almost got killed up in buffalo. Yeah when you were still play so he don't don't take some younger people don't know who you are. That's that boomer. Thanks so much for saying that. This thing sucks. I can't do it either. Look at that. It's frozen but it is. He is disconnect shape the way that he ended that yeah. I mean he's just trying to tell you. These are the facts. You are the man but not. Everybody knows who you are as you get up there. I understand that. That's all i'm just. I'm here every day. No i know. I know but what he said when you first started. That's when he didn't know he was twelve years old wasn't a big deal to him at that point. It's just this. I mean you. You can't be surprised not at all. I love edwards. Always gonna own a team. But i have no object surprise that because we're a rod is in the pantheon of baseball and now we're anthony edwards. Being the number one overall pick in basketball did play baseball. Obviously i it's shocking to me that he would not know him. Yeah i wouldn't me. We know dan marino. Will you know john elway. No of course. I just didn't younger. People don't know a lot about history whether it's sports or anything anything. Just anything i mean. The kardashians are basically. Yeah okay can. I mean if if you asked every nba player to name the beatles. You think they could do that now. No no i don't anybody. I don't think any hockey players could right. So this is what i'm saying. If that's the sixties okay. Are they not the most popular music group in the history of the world. They all at one point they were. I mean i mean. I don't know what to say. The people aren't paying as much attention. So nets were thirty. Seven and seventeen with the wind. They play in philly tonight for the top spot in the conference will have it on the fan. The knicks meantime visit new orleans knicks. Twenty eight and twenty seven. Didn't get any help from the blazers last night as a boston. One in portland one sixteen one fifteen. So the celtics twenty nine and twenty six The heat did lose to phoenix one. Oh six eighty six hawks beat the raptors and the pacers lost to the clippers To baseball now the double header at city field game number one mets blow a late lead but then come right back in a win it three to its line to left field and mccutchen will get it into score is mcneal. The mets win it on an rbi single by jonathan vr. Here the bottom of the eighth inning watching this game with my son. That's eight with the call. Wcbs eight eighty and he goes after they blow the leader goes. I just hope mary says coming in. And i'm thinking. Joe girardi had mariana rivera and then all chapman for a short time. He's gotta be thinking. What is this Really care what he's thinking. all. I'm thinking is that my team took a doubleheader yesterday and that's very rare in this day and age they did because then the nineteen fifties sounding wayne randazzo described this. Oh to line right-center basit for nitto. Tomas nido scores promo advances to second. It's three r. B is and three hits in this game for brandon nimmo and the mets have a four nothing lead. Get yourself a brand new studebaker four. Nothing i on. Yes mother i think wayne rendez like thirty seven years old history. This guy. the time machine sent him here. I will tell you if anybody's going to do another film like a league of their own. That's your guy. Be perfect yes he would coach. What and what a pitcher last night. Marcus stroman six innings. He was outstanding. He says you know what doubleheader sweep team staff and we're extremely resilient I think we have an incredible group guys. I think we have an entire clubhouse guys who don't waiver and in terms of not coming out for the seventh says no need because it's such a long year because of kind of the scheduling and how many days i've had in between starts. I just didn't think it was a smart idea. Yeah brandon nimmo by the way three for four. Three r b is and so the mets over five hundred as they will play the phillies again tonight. David peterson taking on the format. Zack wheeler meantime in dunedin another lousy offensive night for the yankees who wound up losing to blue jays and also their starter. Jamison thanh did not fare so well as they wound up losing out towns to to swung on hidden in the air to right center in the gap. It's a base one hop off the wall. Bouchette trotz home guerrero. The second with and you could sit there and say what year is this is shut in. Guerrero railroad the rb. It's cool actually Guerrero the rbi double their blue jays had a six. Nothing lead beating the yankees seven to three. Here was aaron boone. Why is this team so inconsistent offensively that innings heart. You know it's a game of failure. Yeah guys we had lost on his though right. They're not savaging anything right now. They are awful. They hit into a lot of double plays. Dj blazer. You know it's it's one of those things where you just wanna keep being aggressive. When they were held down by hinge on rio six and two thirds one run its onion ru what high on. Jin ru what is it. How sad again engine is. Right is high end jinro generaux visit. What is high in general. Come on hon. Jin ryu cowhide dodging john. I thank you. Eddie appreciates reu- yup yup yup re not you. Yes you all right. Let's take that out until ten o'clock onions three years ago. Wow you've been sitting on that for three years. You've been sitting with alli attack boomer day brutal brutal. That's funny series finale today on the fan corey kluber and ross stripling are the stars. Just real quick elsewhere. The red sox want again seven straight. They beat the twins. Four to the dodgers shut out the rocky seven nothing trevor. Bauer allows just one over. I believe it was seven innings and the cart bought. Tell you this Goldschmidt parreno combination. Pretty good cardinals beat nationals. Yeah fourteen three goldschmidt narrow auto and home runs. I believe they drove in three runs a piece all right. Let's get to the game that was just gonna say. Have you guys seen jed lowrie i. I'll do the next hour. I was going to do it here. But we're running as kind home runs. Jed lowrie where the rangers. Which would you prefer. Rangers idea the fox place. Here's beautifully and jammie darren. It's nothing rain. Turns i was. Sam rosen on emerson to the ranger zone that pretty much sealed the deal three nothing the final. You got an empty net goal. The twenty thousand in rangers history to make it a three nothing final eager shosh turk in with twenty seven saves as the rangers blank new jersey but they remained four games four points behind boston because the bruins beat the sabres in shootout wasn't easy but they went in a shootout three two so they picked up the two points as well The cardinals signed former steelers. Running back james conner and players from the bucks broncos and seahawks have told their teams. They will not participate in voluntary offseason workouts. Each morning show with boomer esiason and gregg giannotti boomer and geo was something very strange about it being the eighth inning and extra extra inning affair in the eighth inning. With of course the runner starting at second yesterday the first game of to win the mets and the phillies carry cohn senate a couple of times saying that. Yes we're we're in the it's extra innings and we've got run on could just that is that one was a little bit odd to digest because it was hard to think about the finality of it in the eighth inning. Figaro you're just gonna have another chance won't know maybe not maybe we're gonna have another chance in the ninth inning but They were able to win that game. And of course after a great marcus stroman start and the bullpen very solid in both of these games at windy as another cleaning in the first game they sweep doubleheader. They swept the damn doubleheader. Just like you wanted them to do. You said three games for your teams three wins and you got all through the three. Were shutouts yeah. How about that. How about that right well. That's what you need to do against the devils now after you know they're just a male and it also here's the problem. The bruins have five more games against the sabres in two more games against the devils and so those two teams sold off all of their top players for the most part and Some of their top players and they're planning a lot of young kids now they giving them a chance to play in both of those cities. And you know you would like to thank the teams that are going for. The playoffs are going to be able to beat them and beat them consistently. So that's that's where the rangers sit. They sit where you know if the if the schedules were reversed. Maybe although the rangers do have three more against the devils here but you know the bruins. The bruins mad taylor hall and of course. He gets a an assist last night in his first game. All right so you told me to read this statement from the buccaneers. Before we went to break i read it and i'm not really understanding what it means outside of these words. I'm not really. Sometimes i could tell right away but i'm just reading words here and it just sounds like they're not going to have an off season workout right. So what we're talking about their three teams in the nfl that basically are going to follow the recommendations of the nfl pa and not have off season workouts. Now there are players that are still working out at facilities. They're just not going to have any organized team activities on the field especially you know the teams we're talking about okay and one of them is the buccaneers right. So i mean it says. Nfl players across our league or a group of professionals who care about our jobs our community and our families. What a great opening sentence. How can you argue with any of that. You really care about your family. That's right yeah about your community job. That's why i'm saying dog. You would any of that. Rain opening set good good opening sentence and we made a commitment to the organization two bucks fans to each other that we would come back and try to bring another world championship to tampa bay. That's the first paragraph. Well they have twenty two starters coming back from their super bowl victory over kansas city chiefs time ever in the history league. I answered strong opening paragraph number. You could say to. That feels good all right. So the next paragraph we know that our union worked to negotiate safety protocols but in light of the ongoing pandemic gaddam pandemic. We are choosing to take a stand with other players across the league and exercise our right to not participate in voluntary offseason. Program keyword voluntary. We had a fully virtual off season last year and we held each other accountable to do the work it took to win and we plan to do that again. Plus we added. Tom brady and plus. He was running illegal practices at a local high school. He was yes so they're not gonna have an off season. I think a sea hawks. And maybe maybe the rams or the broncos maybe the broncos as of right now those are the only three teams okay. So i believe there's a couple things going on here one. I do believe that older players who are in control the union Would like to stop these. Ota's because they don't want younger players taking their jobs interesting. Why would they take their jobs in the ot ace while the more you expose the younger players to foot balked play books and understand everything. Get the better. They'll get and the cheaper. They are and the middle class in the. Nfl goes by the wayside. All wow the middle class of the middle school when you have a seventeen million dollar reduction in the salary cap and everybody's going to try to be as cheap as they possibly can and get players that they're paying essentially nothing. That's what you have to do that. Most of these leagues with the exception baseball. You do that unless of course you're the nets or the golden state warriors and just blow right through the luxury tax. Yeah matter right. It'll the then that's fifty six million dollars over the luxury tax and it doesn't matter you're gonna win a championship that pay it all back much money that'll will make for that organization when they're not selling the you know they're they're only get what three thousand people game yeah. All international money in the international keeps flowing in keep swallow now. I don't know what the hell is going on with the nba finances. I just know that the nets want to win a championship. Do you think serse question. Okay and and again. This is a question that i need an answer from you. I need your opinion on arts of before. Don't forget the question but let me just clarify this. It's the multiple rhetorical questions in a row. That get me. You know like you go. Today is wednesday and and the month is right and what. What do i say about april. I have to just basically you. Just you know using me. All right. I'll try not to do that anymore. But when you're asking me a legitimate choice for my friend tells me this yeah. He's accurate in the assessment that you're getting exasperated. Well it's only in those particular instances when you know the answers to the questions and you're just using my voice to answer them. That's the thing. So i need to differentiate between the rhetorical questions where i know the answer is and i know what you want to answer as opposed to actually asking me a question and your opinion you understand what i'm saying like if i if i would always say to you like okay. The mets are wearing a patch. Forty one is who right. See what i'm saying they. It's you know everybody knows the answer. Do all the mets on On the team know who forty one was hard they better they. Do you think al better though chance. Come on they. At least they have. They would've learned the past one on new jersey. It's their sport. It's their uniform like you're telling me give me a guy on the mets. That would not know tom. Seaver is and what that forty one is on their jersey for. I can't think of a guy just any of the younger guys. Whoever the youngest guys on the team are i would pick those guys. Say they don't know tell him seaver feel like they would know once. They got to the mets like for example taiwan walker. He's not the thirty eight year old pitcher but he when he signed with the mets opened a bottle of seaver wine and put it up on instagram. so i knew about seaver or then learn about seaver very quickly. Gts wind which is really good. Do all that too but obviously was no coincidence. My man spencer brown sent me a bottle of gts two thousand seventeen for my sixtieth birthday. Daddy yeah spencer brown who works here podcasting world podcasting world yes. That's a friend at along with tom. Seaver of baseball card. Oh very nice up. It's worth anything to see whether or not it's worth like two million dollars or something then you'll sell it. Of course you remember that original question. I do remember with the nba. And you were talking about china said international. Well that's where most of it comes from right. Yeah so you're china. So china invades. Taiwan will the nba boycott china. I think i know the answer that you're asking me i'm asking you i would say i probably nine have a treaty with taiwan. Like we're supposed to be their protector. Yeah i mean. They haven't really had much to say about some of the chinese things that are going on over there. Negative things already so imagine that no. I was just wondering i think what i think. No i don't care all right all right very good just quickly. On the buccaneers thing. Rubin in belleville what's going. on ruben. Ronin and guys. Hey curry's tampa bay team that doesn't wanna go to as become safety protocols. That's the same team that within the tampa bay. No water on the vote with no mask drug growing trophies around brian. Exactly that's the same exact team. Yeah because it's all about safety protocols. Yes okay yeah. That looks like a hell of a lot of fun though. Man hopefully are bo. Praised like that allows the inspiration was it was day. Those guys chucking around lombardi teach the morning show with boomer esiason and greg boomer and geo there's this whole balance between freaking out over the yankees and then saying that it's too early and there is no right answer because the way that they're playing right now you are upset. You are annoyed. You are frustrated and you think that hell i mean. This team keeps playing in the manner that they have and by the way what the red sox have won seven straight and they keep playing like this and this is who they are and you know that you feel like injuries are common. You feel like the staff isn't good enough and you feel like they get into the postseason and they can't hit so i mean it's not too when people say it's early yes. I can't argue that. It is early but when you're seeing the same things that you have seen in the postseason the last couple of years that's why fans freak out. It's not if this team had a track record. If they had just won a world series where they had gotten to the world series and they went to the seven game. Who was a great game. Know the team was great and they didn't struggle at all in the regular season the last couple years. Whatever you'd say right they'll figure it out but the problem is the essentially brought back the same exact team. The staff reason as by the way james paxton out for the year. I don't know if you saw that. So he's the tommy. John surgery right now. He's not pitcher for the yankees any well. Obviously i would say it would be tanaka. You missing yeah. I know you're missing him. But i was just saying because james paxton was someone would they bring them back where they not bring them back they decided not to and he goes and as he's effort here at surgery obviously is not there anymore but if you take the issues that they have they get magnified because fans are afraid that this is what team is going to be when it really counts well and again severino coming back halfway through the season so i do think the mingo herman will get better you know. He hasn't pitched in a long time so he'll get better too. But yeah if you had to talk about all the deficiencies that the yankees are doing with now or i would say all the deficiencies the deficiencies that they're dealing with right now. Starting pitching scott to be at the top of the list. Timely hittings got be second. Gary sange this is like a lightning rod. No matter what he does. Last night he gets caught in a rundown and basically kind of diffuses inning. Think about it. I mean eighth inning. One out. Aaron hicks up. Who's got the two hits already at that point. Maybe even three hits already at that point and you got the time running. The plate finally fought back was six. Nothing you got it back to six three. And then gary sanchez and this situation of course just gets caught mind numbing. It's pure insanity. And i mean that that to the fact that you know. They haven't gotten a big hit in tie on wasn't great and and this is what you got i. It's just as i mean. Just i mean what are you doing where are you. Where are you gary sanchez. But no and the reason why. I think that yankee fans the anxiety is where it is right. Now is also you know. We're not used to having a full season. You don't gary sanchez defense. There was hesitation. Who lemay you on in front of him was in front of him. I think it was. Yeah he hesitated to the thing. Is i guess. If i'm gary sanchez. The only thing that i guess you gotta think about is look. I'm gary sanchez. i'm not that fast. I'm going to stay close to first base no matter what happens if the ball goes really pass. Catcher goes all the way to the backs. Think about this so the score. It's six to three tying run at the all the more reason to stay. I second at that point exactly. So why are you moving. You know that's relied again but just to give a little bit of context. what's happening. Lemay you hesitates to in front of okay. Well he i mean i just. The guy can't catch a break man just cannot answer. I don't know what it is. That i always believe like you. Make your own breaks. You know you make whatever happens. Sometimes sometimes you know your your effort and earlier in the season. He loves out of the box on a ball that he hits hard. He thinks it's going to be caught and it's not just like things like that. Continue to happen to him and like last night. Continue to happen to him. So i know yankee fans go be frustrated with that although that just one play in the body of the game where other players had opportunities didn't come through either so as i mentioned. You know the yankees. They move on from a guy like james palestinians. Having tommy john surgery. The mets had one. Lucky situation where we don't know how it's gonna work out. They didn't end up getting george springer. He's at an oblique a quad so far but there are two guys and that the mets moved on from that early on it is. It's crazy to think about one. Is jed lowrie. So jet larry's start. He's playing every day. What is he hitting over three hundred in another home run. We didn't know he knew had play baseball. We never i mean we him for all of what he was less here for two years i know but he was less than twenty five at bats has to be the mets. Dj lemay. yeah but and now here he is doing what he's doing At the as with the as starting second baseman hitting over three hundred another home run last night. Jed larry and the other one is. I mean is this. Is this true. That wilson ramos. How many home runs you think. Wilson ramos has three. I'm pretty sure. Wilson ramos has six home runs already. I'm i'm pretty sure he's got six home runs about stephen matt's he had two good starts that he start again. They're already started out with two good starts toronto. That's i look. I want all those guys do junior. Okay yeah i don't really doin' jen larry. Two guys a feat. The guy would hurt man. He's says nothing you can do when you get hurt theory when you are hurt you are hurt. And that's all there is to it. Come out to my coincidence. I don't consider an athlete who is hurt thieving not out for his faith a he's not a fever larceny. That's what's going on here you can over. You could root for thieves all you want not me. You know what. I'm just happy. That you know endures on this team. He's he's the energizer bunny. Stroman has been the energizer bunny the last two his last two outings now. That's what teams need. They need that especially through one hundred and sixty two game season. And where's that coming from right now at the ankles one. There's one guy who is a spark plug but unfortunately pitches once every fifty. I thought roggio. Dora a backflip. No matter what he does a backflip right realize that it he came through twice. Now i know already but grumble the second bachelor. I don't mind i love. I love that type of stuff. greg's in new jersey. What's going on greg. I'm going to be the first to call for arab brune ted. No congratulations there. We go so a first one al this season market down. Where are we fourteenth. Do you have a replacement in mind. No no i. And i was thinking about that overnight coming replace. We need somebody. That's going to put a fire in the belly of these players and the hitting coach. What what is this guy doing. Let me tell you if you look at tampa bay when they get up there. They're ready to hit their aggressive at the plate. We're sitting there watching balls. Go down the middle and we'd get into three and two counts fake deal. Hit the ball. Yes so greg. There is absolutely no way in hell. The yankees fire. Aaron boone during the season especially after he had a pacemaker. Put in on top of it and the players the outpouring of emotion for their guy to make sure he was all right. I mean they long now. Part of the reason why aaron boone was hired was because he was like the relaxed dude. He wasn't going to you know in the dugout like all anxiety and grinding bats into docile. His hands joe girardi. So there's just there's just no way let's face it. Joe girardi know got swept into double header last night. Oh yeah that's right. So that's that's that's i was baseball. It's baseball susan. You that it is. They still have one hundred and fifty games ago. Anthony in rockaway. What's going on anthony. What's up what's up guys. What's happening. But then i got. I got a bone to pick with a with me. Okay all right. This whole jed lowrie. The days of can stop stole from the mets anthony. Are you a mets fan. I'm huge matt. You you know what anthony. You should be offended that this guy came here and dole from the organization at surgery. Come on i mean but it seemed like that he come back and then the ne- would hurt him again and he disappeared. I mean it was just a horrendous signing listed. Obviously part of me is being facetious here anthony. I understand a. it's bad luck but my god. How do you go from not being able to walk. Twenty five at bats with an organization for two years and then basically being an old story. He's had two years of of rehab. That's why yeah. While the mets paying them to again not look if aaron judge pulls an oblique or whatever. I to be frustrating. But i can't get angry at a guy that gets injured. I just can't. I'm sorry it's just part of the hale but you know this wasn't like he broke his leg and it wasn't alex smith. He was one little thing after another and then he came back and then he was gone and he was back in the no. We didn't hear from him for months and months and months. It was not like some sort of massive injury where you're like alright. I get it. Sounds like a thirty thirty for me. Jen lab thirty thirty. Yeah there might be one. There might think about how lonely his days must have been when he was injured and couldn't play god. I don't know what that one is wrong with you. I would say. I don't know let's say you had laryngitis for a year and a half happen but say like the. I don't think jed lowrie thought it was going to happen to him so let's just say you had large for a year and a half and you and you and you still got paid. But you didn't come to work would not. I would sack full comparison company. Because you're not working. They would net first of all they would never pay no. He got sick now sick. Let's say you had like a pa or something removed from your voice box or something like that. Remember is what happened when sam wish. He had a polyp removed and they accidentally cut the vocal cords kind of lost his voice so therefore he lost his tv job. I mean th they would make me in here and have one of those things around errantly to my throat. One of those things mine from foreign stone like they come in. We're paying you. you're coming in. That's what would happen. I writing stuff down and having somebody read it. They know they wouldn't get a courts. The niagara free. I mean like you say that but they let al stay home for a year. He was working on everybody. Stay at home working. You're acting as if they don't have any feelings well. Ninety eight percent of the company's still home. Yeah right have feelings. Well they also are afraid of liability issues in all of those things. Nobody what's liability issue. I asked them. I'm not the one making a roles. You not eating a chicken niblett again. Are you almost buffalo wings. Boomer age the morning show with boomer esiason in gregg giannotti boomer and geo. I got my bitcoin sweatshirt on today because it is going nuts right now. It's almost sixty five thousand dollars. I think it's because of this coined by no it's because of this coin base. Ipo that is happening today. So you crypto nerds out there get ready cause it's common. It's not because of a sex tape. No it is not he was actually. He was in and out of bitcoin. Quick so he lost out on that he got. He had a meeting with the winkle. Vaas twins on any was in and then took a dip around thanksgiving and then he was out who's winkle voss so vaas when's you never heard of the winkle boss twins. No the ever see the facebook movie jerry. I have not okay. So that's where you would know about the window gusts twins who actually played by that. 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Our painting design celebrating one hundred years. Visit wall our dot com slash one hundred. You've got a mets doubleheader sweep of the phillies they take the first game. Four three and again. They had the early lead. Dominic smith with a two run homer. They wound up giving it away. Lost the lead and they were they trailed in extra innings. But pete alonzo came through with a game-tying rbi single with the free runner at second and then jonathan vr couple of hours later the game winning rbi single so they get the first one. Louise rojo's impressed by that. Vr as batum. And you have a chase fish for splitter against Mary's and he fell was one and two and any chase. And then he got three two till you got his fastball. That he drove so that yeah. I'm pretty good because you don't know what they're gonna do three into but he drove it to left. Field basit ballgame over mets win. Mets winds are walker. Four and a third innings. One run three hits. Eight strikeouts in decision obviously didn't go five in Took extra innings to win then in the second game. How about vr again. Getting the mets often running line drive toward the gap in right center. And that's going to drop in for a base hit paisley gets over a row third heading home as mcneil he will score the throw comes into second not in time. It's a double jonathan vr. And the met strike first in game number two lead one nothing with the way. Marcus stroman was pitching. It's all they needed. They would tack on three more. Thanks to brandon nimmo four. Nothing your final. And it's a mets doubleheader. Sweep here was nimmo. Vr getting us to lead a huge that just kind of i can feel the dugout. Kinda take a sigh of relief that we've got a lead and let's see if we can expand on it. How about that. He's i of relief. He's so funny. Sound is so happy all the time he's a spark plug guy is without a doubt i mean and by the way everybody on the same page here with alvarado hidden conforto on purpose. Yes okay just make just making sure. Well dom smith screaming at of course and he was like just kind of you know shaking his chicken them off. I come on and you'd think. I wanna hit them at this stage of the game all that other. Yeah you did because you put his elbow out to win a baseball game. And that was against the marlins still though i'm telling you tell me the phillies are thrown out. Because he did what he did. Against the marlins i think so i think so. Yeah i think so. I'm not so sure. He was trying to hit them. But i definitely think he was throwing at him for purpose. Pitching means sending a message. Yeah i do i do. I think that was frowned upon in major league baseball. They didn't like it up in pitch that kind of thing. Eight take this. You wanna get hit. Here's ondra miles. An hour on your shoulder. Yellen adam because it was up around the head or dangerous is danger then again. That's why he has kind of how many you know the one that covers his jaw that that is correct. The one that giancarlo stanton as the where because he actually did break his face. Yeah so walker was good in the first game stroman even better in the second. He went six and he looks at the rotations. Where we can pitch with our stuff man between pd tie lucchessi carrasco on cindy coming back and obviously the best pitcher in baseball. I i love our guys loves. There is the mets over. Five hundred and pd goes tonight. David peterson who will take on Wheelies zack wheeler the former met They go at city. Field as for the yankees. Now i heard guys discussing this play. And so i went back and found it because clearly big part in the game yankees fall behind the blue jays. Six two nothing. They were trying to fight their way back. Not sure if they would have. But this certainly didn't help gets away and going to second. Base is gone is sanchez against tagged out. There was a short while bitch. Stanton went to third but sanchez went the second. He was traveling. So i'd say that's a terrible way to end the inning. So stanton at second base yes then not let what the hell they even moving for anyway runs at the plate. There's no reason. I mean unless that boys the no doubter i think if you actually just runs he gets there. Maybe but you gotta remember reason. He s the reason he held up was because stanton held up. That's why he was running and then he saw stanton stop and then he stopped. And that's what that's what caused an aaron boone. Says you gotta have been more heads up than that. It's important obviously not to run. Run off the guy in front of you but you just gotta be you know heads up and in a better position to take advantage of that. I mean tying run at the plate counts two. Oh two outs. And you run yourself out of the innings. And now i'm looking at the replay again. I mean sten- doesn't really stop. He has a tate's okay. I mean yes. I hated man. Come on not enough to have a complete stop and turn around about. Just stay close to. I don't even think about running. I guess That boy was was a good few feet away from the catcher. He could have got their easily. But whatever it's gary sanchez he screwed up. Yankees three was the final rowdy. Tellas homered and hyun jin ryu six and two thirds innings. Just one run four. Hit seven strikeouts. He gets the win series finale this afternoon on the fan corey kluber. Ross stripling the starters. That is a one. Oh five first pitch the must win game mother on wednesday not a must win the yankees a day game streak and then and then when they real off seventeen out of eighteen in may. We're going be laughing at this story. One if they don't this is the catalyst for extended losing streak right. How would you like us to discuss. This then dislike. Don't worry about it everybody there. That's that's not what i said. That is not what i said. You ask the quote greg asked. The question must win wednesday. Took me yes. You can be concerned if it's must win. Then i guess we cancel the season if they lose. Yeah i think so. I think we're going to have to yeah just called g. stupid no no no not at all. It sounds like you said it was stupid. Well i said that. Yes the idea that. It's a must win win wednesday but it is a must win. They jerry takes that. It's not what the the ultimate must win. I guess is james game. Seven games seven ordinal limitation game teams up series outside of that. There is no direct. If our yankee fan i to me. This is the bus. When i can't take what i'm watching. Yeah i'd be really frustrated if they lost again. Good thing you're at the ranger game last night. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah meantime where are they now. Nice little segment. I represent to you. Mr ghost man himself or thief. Whatever you wanna call him. Jed lowrie is he was here in like never got on the field. Hit pretty well. The left centerfield babies and this gave his tie but this man is unbelievable. He was unbelievable anymore leaving that to three run home. Run by jet lowry rate player. Come here don't get on the field. Go back great player. If he carries us through the rest of the season it would be even more shocking than the start. But i mean it's this is the gr so far. The greatest example of met snake bitten. Crap i i mean this was he was supposed to be our. Dj lemay who. Yeah now to be our jacoby ellsbury and now he leaves does this. It's it's insanity right. This would be like ellsbury going back to the red sox and all of a sudden hitting three fifty. Yeah exactly what it's like. It is amazing the to beat the diamondbacks seven five. That was a three run homer for jed lowrie and then not that. This guy was a bad by any stretch. But you are right. Six home runs already j. One one. So i'm gonna fly ball to right. This one's this one's got a chance home. Run number six for wilson. Romo's field shots to night two of them last night. Five and six tigers beat the astros eight to two so yes and by the way. Aj hinch back in houston and Not last night the night before was the first game back in. I think he got a nice ovation from the astros crowd. All gonna play next and kevin mcreynolds slam. Give you time all. I do have something. But i don't have the highlight wilmer. Flores the tiebreaking sac fly in. Rbi giants beat the red seven six last night. That's true that is unbelievable. Get hired to do jeopardy to justin turner a grand slam dodgers beat the rockies seven. Nothing actually that's not true but they did win seven nothing cory. Seager hit a home run in trevor. Bauer went seven and the red sox have won seven straight. They beat the twins four two. Yeah pretty wild. The mets sprinkled around the league in doing well good things. Jason bay for the cycle ballots closed it out Nets beat the t. Wolves one twenty seven to ninety seven. Kevin durant had thirty one points in twenty seven minutes. he was eleven. Fifteen joe harris at five threes. He added twenty three Durant happy that they were able to get the game. Nba game postponed it. And you know we come from nothing. So i'm glad we finish it off. And and now they go to philadelphia for a big showdown with the seventy sixers. Both teams thirty seven and seventeen atop the eastern. You know playing tonight. Why don't think he made the trip to minnesota. So unless he's going to drive himself to philadelphia. I think not but i don't know that for sure. How far is that. Drive to philly from brooklyn two hours then the eleven jersey though. I don't know where he lives okay. I'm not sure i'm not like ally. Don't go after applying celebrities. What's that side. They're playing in denver. They're playing maybe he will be there. I don't know the. I just know he didn't make the trip. No update is whether or not he's playing yet none. I haven't seen it. No okay and i will. If i take the winkle voss twins out of my search here i will search kyrie irving and then on google. We'll hit news. Let's nothi now. i didn't. I didn't see it either. So we'll see maybe we'll find out what was interesting about yesterday. Was the nba announced the minnesota game the game minnesota at around. I wanna say it was ten thirty in the morning for a four o'clock start so they made that happen very quickly. Maybe kyri makes a decision very quickly. Today i don't know But that will be on the fan tonight. The knicks visit new orleans tonight in terms of the nixon their playoff race celtics won the heat. Lost hawks one and the pacers law so got that and the rangers shutout the devils three nothing a milestone night of sorts number twenty thousand chinese s. Three at cerro's and call them all. Msg mean anything not really to me. It was more about you starting pitching a shutout and doing it now. In what essentially is the race to the playoffs. Any idea when you were in the building the twenty ranger go. You know who did those. Sam rosen hey dated all over it. Yeah he was right on it absolutely pickup. The great breakaway man. Kreider got into f- kreider. Guy is the raiders. Pick up two points but so did the bruins. They beat the sabres in shootout three two so the rangers remained four points behind boston. It was a two games at hand. The bruins have yes. She starting at twenty seven saves for the shutout. Win and james conner no longer a steeler he goes to the arizona cardinals all right very good when jerry do you have any update on when you're being back in the studio with us. Twenty twenty four. No seriously i don't know. I don't i did email mr olivero about that. Okay and he said we will reevaluate in may. I will be vaccinated at that point. I actually inquired yesterday. Because i set up an appointment to get my vaccine. Oh wow so. I asked when i'm fully vaccinated and was nettie is already fully vaccinated and were tested once a week on top of that. Yeah still masks still. The question is one. Is jerry allowed in here though. But it'd be the same thing based on that if he can maybe if he came back and wore a mask and then you would have to wear a mask. Is your everyone be asking. Hold on a second. But we don't wear masks and we're apart they're putting schoolkids three feet apart. I mean nobody knows. What's what the hell's going on anywhere. No i was getting the vaccines. That i wouldn't have to wear a mask but i guess that's really the company stance. This is the company. Saying this. Or as a cdc company policy of governor saying she said vaccinated people can be hanging out together into workflows. That we didn't need masks at all. So who knows Listen i think the companies taking the safe rather than sorry approach and. That's fine abundance of caution. Now i want jerry near. Because it's all it's weird wreck stepping on each other and jerry. I can look g. I used to be able to look at jerry and say i want to say something. It's just it's impossible. I actually told my father the other day. 'cause he was asking some i don't remember what but something about the show and i said you would not believe how many days go by that. I physically do not see greg or boomer. Yeah no. I know that's crazy even though you're thirty feet from me beyond the steel wall yep no i know because of the just the way it works and in the you. Guys switching out warm-up show and then you want an update when we leave the studio and our offices are back there. It's just it's insane. I can't believe you guys don't have asks on. Well that's what i mean right. This is what i'm saying. I don't understand so yeah it's like there's just make up whatever rule you want for that day and away way we go. Yeah it's silly. But i'm hoping jerry can get back in here by the way that's exactly what's going on. Yes every now no different than you know whatever. It's people do that all the time. Just make whatever crap they want and move along. You're an office make it all up. I very good jerry. We'll talk to you next hour innovation resilience agility michigan businesses. Continue to work together to make a difference now and shape the future. Join us and make your mark. Where it matters visit michigan business dot org slash radio the morning show with boomer esiason gregg giannotti boomer and geo russell wilson and ciara or hosting a vaccination special that you said well if those two were behind it then i have to be behind it as well did know otherwise. I would have waited until sunday night when this airs. Okay yeah let's see if i would get it but believe me somebody who's been in this world for twenty seven years. I'm glad they're doing it. The more they do it. The more people they impact the better. It is for everybody in society. That's all no. I agree. I'm just using the al dukes like the last two people in the world that could convince al dukes. The get the vaccine would be russell wilson and sierras. Just having some fun with that. But i'm glad everybody's talking about i'm asking this question. Yeah so the johnson and johnson vaccine. They've they distributed in have injected six billion people with it. Okay and there have been six. People that have had blood clot reactions. Six people at a six million that have had blood clot reactions now. They paused that. Johnson johnson vaccine slightly here now before they started. Administering it again. Okay so and again those six people that had these broadcasts i believe are women between the ages of eighteen and forty eight. Okay but it's only six out of six million people And but those six people obviously to i think has have passed away from it and are the four may be dealing with other complications. But the numbers tell you that it's safe but still the significance of those six people and then media then running running out there with it. Sure is making the fda cdc and the government kind of pause and just kind of figure out what's going on here and then get going again. Yeah well for example. If i were given the option. I would not get that one well given the option. When i went. I was told it was pfizer and i said okay great to see if the dom perignon of various well the thought process behind that is. It's easier to just get one shot as the posters. Set yourself up for two shots within three week period. So all i can tell you is that no matter what goes on in the world. There's always going to be complications with somebody somewhere along the way in regards to everything. And i just there pausing. That doesn't mean they're taking it off the shelf off the market. But they'll they'll they'll start redistributing and again i would imagine relatively soon okay all right. Very good Let's go to is this. The larry in brooklyn like the one who found all our telephone numbers and was calling us all hours of the night and our family members Larry good morning yesterday. Larry how are you how you doing. I'm doing great larry. How's your health still in the hospital rehab for for a been here for three years. Just okay are you. Are you sound pretty good. You sound energetic. It sounds like you're getting better. Yeah but I'm excited about the mets death. Three now and the catching the phillies and But and craig colt and all that sort apologies. How he fed. It's the same old matt. Does he all right. So we'll we'll reach out to crack in. Yeah yeah we will know. He's yankee fan now. So we don't really worry about him. Now larry as real true core grant dyed-in-the-wool met fans and every rabid Yeah i like lied to me over the radio city of a hundred million fans because he owes me. Bob only owes me bobbleheads because my birthday does he and He didn't give me bobble heads for my hang in there. Larry you know what we'll get on the phone and we'll get this resolved right now. He didn't do the podcast with me. And i the well so he's really lied multiple times. You know what we'll do larry's we'll get this rectified for you. Don't hang up right. We'll put you on hold. We'll get evan on the air and then we'll put the two of us together and you can figure it out all right. I think that's the only way to do it. So given a call al please for me and get him on the air and tell them that there is a significant issue that we need resolve. Because we can't be having. Evan lied larry multiple times in guaranteeing things for him and not coming through. I mean i just think that's bobbleheads on his. You know come through. You know you know you got craig upsetting met fans and now you have evan who is a met fan and maybe the biggest fan i know upsetting fans. Yeah that's what are they doing. I don't know it is tough. It's supposed to connect with the audience. I know i know. So larry basically say carlton and the liar. That's that's where he's going in the afternoons. After the yankee game today between the nets games carlton and knew that craig was met fan. I kinda carlton totally forgetting. Yeah right carl carlton and the disingenuous redhead afternoons on the fan odyssey station. How many guests that have today. No they don't do guests. Yeah i think they have robust today. They do they do have guess told you. They're only on for a little bit of time. I think again today about it. Yeah that's right away. That's why he's the. He's the love poking fun at mike francesa for those those days and now he's living the getaway day haven't hit sent me right the voicemail. Oh our last night. Is that the mets second game last two hours and thirty minutes beautiful. Seven innings is beautiful. Hey larry here. That that. Evan roberts gave al. Fu button on his phone so he is ignoring us right now. Oh wow really bad. It's getting worse. I feel like we're getting treated like you're getting treated. Yes that's not right for any of. I just texted phil. I gave him the hotline. How ever since. ever since. joe. And evan roberts Switch pot is to the curb. Yeah no he's chances challenge same guy. He's got a huge head now. Walks around here like you. Some star owns the place. What word would you use to describe. Evan nowadays larry He he changed. Yeah obnoxious maybe. And and the and the and the the show changed. Well yeah. that's that's fine. I the whole larry arrivals i love i love the show so i mean what it's going to change because you know he's partner right. See change can be you know things can change and things can avenues to be the lead guy. But it's evans connection to the audience. That i think. Larry things yes so it has to the larry. Evan has no longer has a connection with the audience. Yeah i think. I think greg abbott. I think greg evan i think greg evan Should do should team up. And i think i think I'm gonna stop you right there. Larry that'd be a nightmare for me. What did you say. I think that he wants me to work with evans so his evan can get back and i love evan but he's just too much baseball. I mean you. You told me once you worked with evan. You said you wanted to kill yourself. I did yes. I also worked with dog one day. One four hours. I used to work with dog on the westwood. One show on friday nights. That was fine because that was an hour it was football sure and it was easy it was good and he did a good job of setting me up and all that other stuff right well. We're going to try to get to the bottom of this whole thing with with evan and larry alive on the air. Because this just can't be happening we can't have. Were supposed to be the voice of the people voice at the fan. be in touch with our fans. We can't let this linger like this. I mean larry came to us with a problem. We've got to fix it and we are going to fix it for him so hang their larry. All right don't hang up. We're gonna get this figured out for you. Okay no problem all right all right. Very larry gotta make sure evans change these guaranteeing things to larry. He's not giving it to them to do a podcast with him with him. In somebody else who in bobbleheads they were supposed to be bobbleheads. We could set. You know we have some back here. This these are ones that i think that you wanna keep. And there's a sam darnold one in there that uselessness. Yeah but we gotta we gotta send them that one. Oh yeah there's the seaver when you want to hang onto that one right. Don't you have two of them though. There's no one over there. We got tom seaver one here. I'm not sure which one i like. Better is the joe and evan bobblehead. Is that still around. 'cause now that was very job. I thought there was joe and evan. You would take a Steve paiko bob hood. A larry. you wanna steve pikal bobblehead well I like jacob degrom bobbleheads. You'd like jacob degrom bobblehead geared date of the ground. My wife jacob on our young. Yeah no i understand that one. That's a very specific requests for just trying to get bobbleheads. Are you all larry. Are you a nets basketball. Fan as well specifically mets and yankees okay. That's a judge. One is very nice. Yeah judge one's nice. I want to send that tom. Roberts collins me tom seaver jacob degrom what. I can promise you those. Tom seaver one. I'm keeping you got two of them though. I don't care them keeping them. Keep both sending. Larry my tom seaver bobbleheads. I'm just sorry. I love larry larry's a great guy is a great caller. Send a mystique pikal bobblehead all right. So you tell me. yes or no. And he's bobbleheads. Larry the one you say yes to are yours all right okay. All right all right. Billie jean king who about does larry. We're gonna. I'm gonna head if you don't want fine. I'm not going to get on for it. I'm just gonna go around to tell you the bobbleheads we want to studio that are available to you. Tell me yes or no okay now. No okay sam. Darnold at usc It's possible it's possible. It's a maybe okay at that. That one could be smashed by evan cracked later on this week. So how about the c sabathia star wars one I wouldn't yankees already. Have me The yankees already set me. That one of the yankees sent you that. Yeah all right so you have that one. So that's also a no okay. What are you. what do you have over there. That's dr j. one here larry. Dr j. bobblehead No no okay. What do you have over there boomer. You got the nothing. We got the quinnipiac here. But that's boomer. I'm not getting that one. I'm not giving that want to be there. You real stingy with these bobbleheads. I larry a little bit but not like evan does okay. I larry in evans side. They have a connection and the david friends for a long time. And that evans. Promising larry a lot of these things that you kinda dragging me into this. I wanna make larry. I offered him a steep paiko bobblehead. I wanted oh we have all. This is a great What's what's that. Hey larry bob eusler bobblehead that one. Maybe a maybe okay. So i'll put the maybe conso. So sam darnold. Usc and bob eusler calling connecticut. Sun games bob. Buechler baba and in the maybe column. Yes yup okay. All right very good. We'll get evan on the phone for you sometime before. Ten o'clock this morning. So hang. In there larry will get this solar situation. We will get to your mom or bobbleheads all right okay. All right very good. That's larry brooklyn larry's to show up to all my events back in the day when i was here. He's the buffalo wild wings events would be at every one and i one. They're sitting down and taking in the whole scene. So it's good except a hard time believing that evan. Because i you know. I know evan. I don't want to hear insert. There's evan you know. Aj after gel Right and then. There's evan bc four craig so this is this thing going on with evan that you know i think the fans out there having a hard time wrapping their head around get. Shut your mouth past seven. We'll get right back to me. Oh yeah all right the voicemail. No answer to the text message. Wow larry's right. Larry is right evans changed. I don't know. I do have another two hours to get this figured out. But if he doesn't get back toes before the show ends that's a blatant ignore. I mean he does have a newborn still and a young son as well. So we've got two kids. He probably takes care a lot of stuff in the morning. So we'll give him a break but if he doesn't get back to us by ten we've got a major situation. I was listening to Salakati scream on s and y last night. Oh yeah now. Is that his house. I believe it is yes with all the bobbleheads and everything. Yeah he is. A sick collector is sick in the head about. He'd wanna see paiko bobblehead he may i. It looks like he has never turned down a bobble right in his entire life. So yeah he's got a lot of. He was screaming about something less on what it was. He was screaming on on the fan so well. When i was driving in last screaming going on a lot of screaming what would he be screens. The met ben they won. He's screaming about his life being over because his wife is about to have their daughter that's what he was. One of the things in life begins but in his mind. I have not spoken to him about that. I haven't you've told me when you go home now because now you're back to work here and you're doing everything and yeah and you get home. Usually around noon right sure. Yeah and. Sabrina can't wait to see daddy she. It's the greatest thing in the world. If have you told matt. I have not yet. No i mean i. You should tell them that. Well usually when i talk to him. He's having some other career existential crisis after get through before we get to the personal life stop so we haven't gotten there yet but yes so i mean after my wife gives me fifteen problems. That happens when i walk in the door. Then i get the sabrina hug. Great it offsets everything. The morning show with boomer. Esiason and greg naughty boomer and geo evan roberts is in the crosshairs right now. From larry in brooklyn because larry got through to us and larry said that evans have been lying to him about several things. One was evans. Said he would go on his podcast and is not and also. Evan promised bobbleheads to larry on his birthday and has not come. Wait till. Larry has a podcast or evan was going to do. Excuse me. i'll let me find out larry. Is this your podcast or is your buddies podcast. Evan comcast with ozzy from would wage ozzy from woodridge in. You do a podcast with me. is is originally was gonna do Podcast with me. An ozzy. And and i found everything was going to do. A podcast with me and ozzy for woodwind okay. So it was going. Be the evan roberts podcast with you guys. Guests yes okay. He hasn't done that. Karen hanging out. Where could you find that podcast. I saw you are all over. The podcast listing gesture day. Oh yeah we wouldn't let it go you all over. I wouldn't let it go. that's right. I want numbers every other thing out there like if you put out a video boomer we can see how many people watch that. Okay if i go on spotify. I could see how many people watched this are. Listen to this music right. Podcast the only thing you have no idea and everyone is treated equally on the podcast platforms. And that shouldn't be well. Aren't there like top. Shorty but see yes so to me the top echelon guys men and women you can see. That'd be evans podcast. Evan is not a top echelon. He's not not top podcast no evans. Probably the next level down those guys get lost because of all the garbage. That's also on their no offense. Larry podcast evans policy. Like you have a podcast. I don't know why you don't by larry on we don't do guests talk okay. But but yes. Well that was was was ticking. Me off about podcast says because we promote podcast like all these all here about his podcast and no one's listening to them. It's so put your name on it. Let's see the podcast number. Put you napalm. I understand. Yeah you all over that yes yeah. It was really bother me yesterday. Yeah he also idea. And i love this idea anybody with under hundred downloads. For your podcast. You get put in the big podcast cycle. Been whatever discount been because they they've done studies like eight percent of the the podcast people eighty percent of the podcasts out. There only have three or four episodes and they're just sitting out they're clogging up space. Who's done studies. The podcast people studied podcasts. All right so how. 'bout bruce springsteen brock obama. How's how's their podcast on. I'm sure it does well. But we don't know is no way to tell they. Don't tell you once you get that guy in that seaver wine spencer get him on a breakdown all the numbers. He's probably got the number someone's got the number nolan's got any numbers they the numbers and does not truly your number. Each individual person has their numbers but every other platform we can see what the numbers are few. Go and do a live instagram show. We could see you have how many people feeling you know who's in the numbers seems to be in the numbers and all he does is like fixate himself on numbers. Why don't you call andrew marshon. He probably knows he doesn't have his battling with who. And what what time. Period and everything. These numbers are not knowable. That's house problem. And some of the ones that are notable or knowable are for gays because as our headed another podcast. There's a way to sign up for something that you just can. It will inflate sort of not Truly the all the numbers eight they views. You could buy fake twitter follower. You can buy view the views on spy downloads. Zell fake new the failing new york times. Yeah it was just frustrating me. Yesterday i couldn't every time i tweeted something. People were not comprehending what i was saying. Oh on winter should he should have done an instant reaction video. Maybe they still wouldn't get. It's just one of many things that bother al also people unnecessarily backing into parking spaces. That's another that really tees imola. Oh like truck back into truck just back into parking spaces polling interesting. You mean like a regular parking space in a parking lot out on the streets here in new york regular parking's all right. Yeah no. I understand that a lot of guys who have trucks back into the back into my parking space. It's better fact. My buddy you took me to the prudential center in last night. He backed in now. What type of did he have a truck truck. Okay trucks feel like you drive your truck you back in occasionally to fifty fifty back because sometimes a little harder to make the turn and it's easier to pull away and then back in especially with the review camera that have in the raptor boom. Yeah easy no worries trucks at different animal. Totally different animal. But i like you know you drive around that little tic tac yours whatever the hell it is and you just think everybody else should just do what you do. Because it's so easy for you to do it right right right. That's exactly what's going. But he's talking about this specific spots where you're either knows in or tail out saying yeah palm a truck going tail in knows out because sometimes it's hard to make the turn in that that spot especially when there's two cars and you're fitting in between cars it is when you have a big truck but if it's a car i'll just be showing off right now. Arrogance drivers do that now back in now. If i don't do it because i'm showing your maybe if you actually drove a manly truck you'd understand but you drive that little that thing said battery operated what is it. It's gas powered the regular powered vehicle. And how big is it small. Because i want to be able to park in new york city. Yeah yeah so. It has nothing to do with the parking in new york city. It has everything to do parking in a strip mall. Yeah yes exactly quickly. Joan westchester as a good point. What's going on joe guys. How's it going what's happening. Hey all right. Listen up this thing in two seconds. I've seen it a million times. Since i was growing up. I evans the kinda guy. That was probably a sports geek when he was younger. Probably date girls you know. He was just into sports only. yeah now. suddenly he's partnering with a guy who's actually lived life. I'm not talking about problems or anything like that but you know. The guys got celebrity friends. He's funny he's you know i can tell from his past that he's been around. He's been to club. These guys celebrity friends because of me though. Well i'm just saying he got some reputation and the guy the guys You know anyway. A he and now evan. Because he's hang out with him now thinks he's cool. I can't entertain our craig. Get up there and he'll entertain and and he'll he'll do auditor for things and now evan kind of hooks onto that. I understand what you're saying. Okay So evan Good morning are you Fantastic how are you just waking up. Did you have a rough night with the The babies and everything. I am just waking up a wonderful night but guess i'm just well okay. Well sorry if we had anything to do with you waking up. But we've got an urgent matter here and we need to get to it. So did al give you a heads up as to what this would be about or know a little bit. Okay so with us right now. Is larry from brooklyn and larry's got many gripes with you and he could not get a hold of you believe it or not even larry. Today's ago all right. Well this is why we wanted to get your side of the story to make sure everything was saying. I don't think. Larry thinks very highly of you right now. Evan and we're just trying to make sure that we hear both sides because larry's painted a very bleak picture worker you balanced boomer. I appreciate all right obey. Thank you larry. Here he is. You've got your shot at evan roberts so go for larry. Yeah well i even have. Even was upset with called about how he Was say said the same. Oh mets so. I wrote on where we were together on that. I called him out for that garbage today at sweep doubleheader but okay yeah he. He apologized to a mets fan about the same movements. You know oh see now. Larry larry worry about that. We got evan on the line. Where you're with him and i want you to. I want to spell it out as clearly as you got. It also talked about carlton whether or not. He's a met fan and he's a guy anyway so don't worry about writing to the end. Install anyway the seven bobbleheads. Okay When i spoke to you in joe Did you did promise me bobble heads for my birthday. And you never gave me my bobbleheads for my evan. Yeah what happened with the bobbleheads on larry's birthday. I sent them a jacob degrom bobblehead. I sent him one of jacob degrom bobbleheads. I got give away two years ago. Did you get that. Larry know probably got loss in a male right now. You hate the post office. Larry you got mad at me for not sending you a bobblehead i sent you do. Did you also mention the other gifts. I sent on That you didn't ask for. I think i sent you like a mets blanket. A couple years ago your data god. Oh okay and Second podcast with me and ozzy jazz with larry nausea ones. That happening all. That's never happened because ozzy hates me now. So that's never gonna happen. Oh he's a he doesn't like the new show is craig. So he's like. I hate you and i never wanna talk to you again. That's that ain't happening larry. But that's more. What do you want me to do that. One's just death do the podcast with larry. Then that's true. Yeah you want. What do you wanna talk about met. Podcast i did one with a nine year old about two months ago. So i've been some podcasts within to deal with that. So set that up down the match ripping carlton yes. Yup larry me now. What about the jacob degrom bobblehead. Yeah what would my would. We're by nursing home with the nursing. Home and i kind of I kinda complained with the state. And i kind of complained with the attorney general. Because i haven't been getting my mail and and faint calm complaint with the state and the state was nothing ever could do about that larry. We're trying to talk about on his radio. Show how the state is screwing. Larry ended mail. All right larry the governor on. Yeah we'll get the governor grow onto talking larry's male trying to get a hold of a lot of people about this nursing home because they've been screwing we're me about my male. Maybe they lost my mom bubble. Had larry believe that. Evan is not a liar any longer right. No evidence that ally has been changed in your eyes well since he partnered with crag yes since he parking crag I think that I think the greg abbott wants us to do a show together so he can get his bobbleheads. Evan is what larry trying to get through here because he believes that craig is getting in the way of urine larry's relationship when me and you were together in the mid day show and things were a lot easier for larry then because we used to give him stuff. I think that's what he's getting to hear. How did did you get my this. Did you get caught target gift card events. You sent me a target versus allowed. I didn't get it but you know you don't set me that kind of stuff very much To i sent you talk it gift. Cards to threes like different email addresses. Well that that's very nice of you but you'd never have to send you target. especially now. he's making millions. Larry he makes millions of dollars. Now larry larry. You're happy now. Is everything settled. You're going to do a podcast with evan. It's the mail it's the state's problem in the nursing. Homes problem with the males not as nursing homes for year is not a liar everything. Okay definitely okay. All right good all right. Take and and greg. Yeah Okay p fan. Donald ohio take bobblehead. And the bob you debut. Take sam darnold. What can i mail it to. Where is it going to get lost in the mail. Larry i hope not okay. Well the state is taking away his bobblehead right. This you believe between him and ruin and evan. Yeah i know this ten carlton ruin in evan. The state's got all of larry's bobble heads off there in albany right now. All right larry. So what we'll do is we'll get your address and i'll send their and crossing my fingers. All right okay. All right very good all right. Thanks larry stay on. Hold and alga address. Evan you feel okay about this interaction now yeah. This is great way he. He came in odd man and he was. He was pissed a liar. He's challenged yeah he he promised me bobbleheads on my birthday. I never got. So what do you think that like. He just chickened out. Because i was honored. Yes just kind of backed off. But i think the guy loves you. Evan actually foresee does and and. I think that you heard feelings. And you know we all know that you've changed significantly and you probably don't realize it yourself but that's okay you know little self reflection. What if i changed chains. Would've i spent god-knows-how-long screaming at the top of my lungs. At steve asks for keeping kevin durant in that game yesterday. We don't care about that. We we want to talk about things we care about. Like larry we care about larry right yes yes. Let's keep it to larry please. Don't kevin durant played. that's good. We're getting them to. Because they're up by forty and they have a huge game tonight against the sixers. I wanted him out of the freakish. So is kyrie irving clang tonight. But i don't know. I don't know what's going on with kyrie irving. I'd always missing time for personal issues. And i don't know what's going on. That's his deal. I didn't want katie wasted in a game in which they were up by forty. You know what. He's trying to get his legs back underneath them for the stretch run now. Okay i'd like. Is he playing tonight. Against the sixers boomer. Do you know. I have no idea. I didn't even know. They were tying the sixers. I know you don't care and that's fine the number one seat. That's my opinion. i'd like their plan. The sixers tonight. I want all right evan. But you feel okay hanging up this phone at the larry situation is taken care of. I'm a little agitated than i sent. A jacob degrom bobble headed now disappeared into the ether. Like that governor. Cuomo's desk right now as we speak. I mean it's jacob. Degrom is who we all right man. Thanks for joining us. We appreciate it. Go back to bed if he can. You probably can't and we'll talk to you soon. All right. i'm gonna go run around outside. Goodbye goes evan roberts. Who do you think he's changed on better than anybody. I know. i don't believe these changed. I believe he's doing a different type of show. But i don't believe he and his chorus changed at all. Know you heard it. He said larry a blanket and bobbleheads. It wasn't his fault right. You're right and he woke up a second. He was up he called and he sorted the whole thing would larry. That's the evan roberts. I know he's changed a little bit because he picked up he goes yeah. He had such a manly voice because he just woke up. Couldn't tell him boy. You want al. Damn larry in brooklyn all right. Let me through. Ups goes. He wants to talk about kevin durant. Thank god the feet of it's like all right. Let's get back to larry's bomblets each the morning show with boomer sit in gregg giannotti boomer and geo jerry eric greg we're through some of this Were brought to you by flag anthem. Spring clothing collection visit flag and anthem dot com. So the midstate you from the phillies. We know that by now they win the first game. Four three and eight innings. They win the second game. Four nothing the storyline in the second game. Really marcus stroman. Who wins six scoreless innings. He was outstanding allowed. Just four hits. He did strike out three. So the mets move above five hundred. Today you're going to get our excuse me tonight. You're going to get david peterson and format. Zack wheeler in the early game. Yesterday it was pete alonso. the game tying single and then jonathan. Vr the game winning rbi single as the mets took both from the fills as for the yankees seven three loss to the blue jays. Marcus semi rowdy. Tell at home runs. It was not the best of knights. Four jameson tie on the loss. Three into thirds five runs on eight heads not great the team simply is not hitting but there is one man who sees the positive and all this and he guesses who that man might be during the video conference I'll bruce back stanton at a to. Rbi single hicks at three hits. Fraser had ahead brusett hit guys. That were struggling. Got something going here. Do you think that They're to breaking out of hope. So there you go pas positive all the time. Blue spec should have a twitter account mr positively seriously and he could have a positive quote every morning to start your day. He could have three hundred sixty five day. Calendar for your desktop. I need some of that. I need some of that positively to rub off on me. Then hang around me jay. And you're going to be just fire here. Was boone discussing. The fact that they don't hit is baseball time. You go through something like this. That's frustrating but it's also part of the game innovation resilience agility. It's how michigan businesses continue to work together to make a difference now and shape the future. Join us and make your mark. Where it matters. Visit michigan business dot org slash radio And you got to fight your way through it. Well the yankees going to have to fight through it this afternoon if they can. You've got cory. Kluber and ross stripling must-win wednesday for corey kluber. He's gonna come back with a much better performance. It would certainly help his cause. Yeah i think so but it also janke vans calm down a little bit right. He's not going to be cut. Though if he pitches poorly. You wouldn't think either released. I don't think so. I think all of them see if he can work it out and hopefully he. This is a really important game for him. Let's put it that way all right. I don't disagree now last hour we play. Where are they now. We gave you a couple of good ones. I came up with a couple of others. Struggle cabrera had an rbi double for the diamondbacks last night. Though they lost to jet. Lower in the as travis dr no had an rbi single or the braves did lose to the marlins and then this guy had himself a big hit and a big well pitched game pitch swing and a align shot toward the gap in left center. It'll get down and it'll get to the warning track. Naylor send a score peres. He'll stop at third and a med. Rosario with a huge pinch hit. Rbi double up the alley in left center and the indians down lead it to actually sounds like every x. Met either at home run key. Rbi last night's games. They were doing a lot less than that is for. The eggs met all star team. Or not. Bad so yeah. That was a hell of a pitch game last night between shane. Bieber and lucas giolito bieber went nine innings of scoreless ball. They one in ten He did get the win. I believe what how many ups That would be nine nine nine. He's apparently okay to do nine. Ups jacob degrom is only allowed to do six ops so stupid marcus. Stroman did six ups any also ran the basis. How about that. And he got up a six time without getting up for the seven time right but he got up in the sixties walking around the dugout quite a bit too warm. I got ups. That's exactly right. The nets were all a big on the t. Wolves blew him out. One thousand nine hundred ninety seven. Go to thirty seven and seventeen. It sets up nets sixers tonight from philadelphia bolt teams thirty seven and seventeen looking to claim the top spot in the eastern conference. No idea kevin durant playing no idea where kyrie irving is. And we know. James harden's out Who else can we figure out. Who's playing or not not your who's gonna show up in philadelphia but some team in net. Uniforms will be there tonight. Kevin durant plays back toback. That's the question will. He played twenty seven minutes last night back to back on the road. I'm gonna say. I hate to say this. I'm gonna say he does not play tonight a day game jerry. No i know that but they had to travel lanes. Stretch your legs out back to back on the road. Plus for god's sakes played like two or three games in a row. Watch out it is time whereas hair the wear and tear the knicks meantime or twenty eight twenty seven. They have a a nice road. Game in new orleans tonight They did get a little bit of help. The heat lost and so did the pacers last night. But the celtics and the hawks did win. We're running out of time. So i want to give this boomer rangers. Takeover off left at savannakhet rangers managed time. They've had chances. Savannah chandler said one thing and they wind up winning three great. Sam rosen on m. s. g. r. Timmy and scores in the third and then pablo butchnevich with the empty netter but No doubt the story was eager. Shosh turk twenty. Seven saves a saves jacob trooper took notice. I don't know if i classify that game is a shutdown game for us. I think he made a lot of big saves Couple too many too many scrambles around our net but but he did the job for sure and so the rangers pick up the two points but so did the bruins who beat the sabres in a shootout three two and james conner now in arizona cardinal the morning show with boomer esiason and gregg giannotti boomer and geo a writer for the deseret news. Absolutely trashes the jets in telling them. That zack wilson and them should not be married to one another. Do not draft. That wilson. don't do it because you're going to ruin this kid's career this local kids career so he says he's trying to protect this young man. That's right this is the problem in this world today. Let the kid show up. Seize got the stones that do it and grow into being a man playing quarterback for the jets. If these great he'll be great with the jets. You don't have to worry about it. But he said. The jets are two quarterbacks. As what larry king was to marriage. Because you know got the whole thing with the seven marriages. Yeah yeah. But i mean it's just it's some guy dog robinson. He wrote a column. This is what sports is you know. It's his opinion. Just it's just funny to me because he's just going through everything and then he's these says the joe name is one of the most overrated players. Nfl history. i wanna kiss you. He said that. Then he compares. While the packers have had two starting quarterbacks in twenty nine years the chief saints patriots falcon seahawks. giants have had stability at the position in the last fifteen years. The jets have drafted eleven quarterbacks. Four in the first two rounds. Yeah well what he doesn't understand. Is that this team. Now is on the got stability at the top and i think there are heading in the right direction. No question. wow and this would be a good place. And i think. Just maybe the zack. Wilson has the right personality for this one. I mean by that is that you know mark sanchez and sam. Darnold both first round draft choices by the jets. One three one five overall just had the take charge. Personality never really took charge of the team. It was always about somebody else on the team. You know when it was Sam darnold heroes. Rex ryan rex. Wine was the bigger than life personality. Tom brady goes down to tampa bay. Who's the bigger than life personality. While i'm tom brady. Is again rhetorical question like that. Yeah yeah to do that to you. Sorry about that. No problem So those those guys just didn't have the personality and maybe it was because rex was domineering and he always wanted ground and pound especially when marquette a bad game or two you had instability at the top of the franchise that sam darnold data fight throat and his own injuries and illness and things of that nature. All right you tell me you think you'd be good at this. There are eleven quarterbacks that the jets drafted since two thousand and six. Do you think you. How many of those you think you could name. You think it'd be good at that's college football guy and you're a football fan and the jets are locally. We go to that or not both six since oh six. The jets have drafted eleven quarterback. He's got you mentioned the to. Usc kids right yeah. It said pennington and let s thousand so pending things. That long ago you got you got to. You got darnold and sanchez. gino. Gino smith is three. There was some kid at oregon kellen clemens. There i'll give you that one. That's four kid out of penn state. Oh my god hacking virg- can yeah five emerging hanging. Yeah that's right five of that. But they got on the the roster now get out of james madison. No no no. Isn't james. morgan is he. James morgan was. Name's james morgan added. Actual i don't know madison. James madison was james. Morgan etta james madison. James wreck sound like such. What are teams vannerson with their team. Name the dukes dukes so we've got six anybody else. I got nothing for you. All right taj boyd brake pedal and baylor power bryce petty greg mcelroy That was also alabama right. Oh yeah eric ehn. Don't remember and brad smerek tennessee. Danny ages son smith adam. Zoo thousand six. i remember. Yeah that's there you go. Those are the now some of these forthright. James morgan out of florida international and right now on the jets step jab step chart. He's listed as number one is he. He's qb one right now as we speak one panthers by the way florida into that. Really and mike watt as the backup. Mike white is the backup. Yes i know mike wait. It's probably not that guy who where the hell is mike white from. You don't know. Mike white is From kentucky western kentucky and western kentucky toppers thin hilltop. Both mike white james. Morgan seem relatively nice kids. They're both six foot four and bigger. They're they're developing quarterbacks and those roster spots developing those guys and we know what's going on here they are taking zack wilson. And we'll see if he ends up being a failure. Not maybe they'll they'll sign brian hoyer. Hey saw in. Staten island saw. What's happening brother. I'm doing great. I was wondering. Could somehow arranging. Bruce beck jerry recco. Podcast life gives you lemons make lemonade album like rotten. We won't have any sugar and we're all going to die. We're all die. You know what that's like. The sold is a great idea. I would love to arrange that now. The the problem is though jerry would have to play along and if you hear jerry saw jerry pretends that he is all positive that he's a motivational speaker guy and like everything is great. So he'd have to play along with the whole thing he'd he'd take the you know you're a cat that runs. It did middle road and gets run over by a car. And bruce bank will say well at least that cat had four years of great living before it people that live their life with this grand old notion that i believe in you. Trust in you. you're going to take it right. Probably respect and it might feel good. But i think i'll get it out of jerry. That's al knows the button to push. I'm just also careful not to not to talk on top of him. That's why i say right at the end to see if got more. And i'm like right. Yeah just to put a little wind in sales. Hey look i found him in the car getting from the neighbor. You can't grab that. Because guess what i can't go on a date. It's going on in that. Podcast they tell you a lot of stuff stuff. Going on in that podcast. What you get jerry at the end of a long day. He's tired and you're just trying to poke the bear if you will. And he just goes for. It is nothing more than a scam and just filled with hypocrisy. And then you're dead like that's it. Yes yes yes. What would bruce back. Cena that there's nothing you could say that would be like jerry. You need help. Can i give you the number of somebody. Now be out. That's about all we could say at that point. There's no counteracting. Now on each morning show with boomer esiason and greg naughty boomer and geo twenty one twenty one years ago today one. Tom brady was drafted in the sixth round of the nfl. Draft wanted amazing day amazing career. He's wishing all his friends. Happy retirements one. Hundred ninety nine th pick overall incredible and julian edelman. Just retired and tom brady is still going. You know wes welker before that retired. He's still going. Rob gronkowski retired and came back to plays gronkowski. What the chances were in his eyes of julian edelman joining the bucks that you see what number he put on. Yes sixty nine. That's right sixty nine percents. Well speaking of all this it ties into a tweet and a story that i saw wear now. This tweet got over. Four hundred thousand likes sixty five thousand retweets speaking of retirement that a pornhub user announced his retirement in the comments section of the website and says boys. I can't believe there's a community of comments have guys talking to one another videos but there is boys here not to watch but to announce my retirement. I have officially found the one person that is right for me. She's brilliant beautiful in loyal. Every day i wake up and realize how happy she makes me. The reason i am done watching porn is because it feels wrong. Almost as if i am cheating i hope one day you guys that are reading this. Find the same thing that i have. And i know you all miss me and i will miss you little j dub signing off or missing little j dub yeah. I guess there's a community there and they all interact with one another. Let's watch pornography together. Yeah what was it. A little jay dub give it some time you'll be back much like brett farve and mike francesa. You couldn't stay away so little. J. w. are right now in that phase the infatuation phase a you're gonna come back. You'll they'll welcome you back. The commenter community on pornhub will welcome you back with open arms. Each share this with his community is community. Yes is this community there and People enjoyed it so much that they liked it. Four hundred thousand time. that's hilarious. I mean what like the comment section. Yeah anybody actually look at the comedy would be. The guy would look at the comments section onto those videos she would. I don't know if you'd actually comment. But i think you'd look at the comments. The only thing. I've ever seen uncommon sections like It's always people who is she. What's her name. What's what's their day. Do yo- do you comment on anything other than your twitter. Feed or like if you or i yeah sometimes will do review of a yelp or an open day right sometimes. Do you ever put a positive. It's always negative. No it's it could be both okay. It's normally one extreme or the other either. I had a great experience or terrible experience. Not just a normal experience that you would expect at any restaurant. Experience doesn't get a review. Okay now would you say that. You have more bad experiences than good experiences. I would say in restaurants more good experience me too. I agree i definitely. I haven't left a bad review. And i don't know how long if i've ever even yeah. I would probably leave more bad reviews. If some people didn't know who i was but i don't wanna leave a battery view with my name. You ever leave a bad review on a porn. Video of lighting was terrible. The acting was awful. I wasted my day with this column on just terrible. Put a little more effort into it will you. Jesus johnny and satin island johnny. What's happening. oh ramona fellas. john. How i gotta. I gotta speak to outlaw quick. What's your deal. We're backing into a parking spot. I wanna put my ford mustang a to talk and able to park my mustang fog. It's a little arrogant. It's a little arrogant about it. In advocate just shows like look at me. I'm back in my car. And i don't know it. It seems arrogant accommodates the reason. Why i back my car to the get it. Just pull out and get out when you guys back when you gotta just pull in. You got the backing up three or four. You gotta get out one. Move noah backup cameras you back up one. Move out either way. Either you're going to be making three or four moves either way just depends on when you want to do it. Yeah you know john. I wouldn't be upset without too much back in and he didn't really seem to didn't upset me that he doesn't like that one that i do that. I just feel like there's no problem you john. John john with you next time you see our parking lot. Slot upside the head. Make them feel better. It's always but that's always like the type of car days right like mustang guy corvette guy a one fifty guy. No no no. No no i get. I don't wanna say your car. Little tic tac sensible. You know not a sensible. Like like like look at what a teacher would your. i like. geo explained like an art teacher might john. Would you drive guys that are really into their cars and into cool cars. They fact their cars. Every time i pass al's car parked in the street. I look in the back seat. Deceive his easels in there because he tried to car that a middle school teacher would be you know what else john doesn't care about god cast ratings and the back of my mustang that the spot not listening to podcasts. Oh man the weirdest things bother you al. Yeah i don't know why but that does bug me the backing in the spy. The podcast thing yesterday spots i mean. I can't bother me light allergies right. How how do you find the time to be so aggravated plenty of time because women listen in this stuff and i hear what really gets me going is when i hear commercials for podcasts. That i know are terrible or one. Radio show has guests on or something bothers me. You know what it is. And i don't wanna beat sounding like one of these pretentious people or or anything like that. But what what it is and i understand. You're a dog owner now but but you you don't live with your girlfriend and you don't have children when you're presented with the things that come with that and there's obviously great things that come with that too but there's also lots of issues that come with the little things then all of a sudden. Go away because i used to be the same way. People used to look at me. Like i was the cycle path because i would get worked up over the dumbest stuff and they'd be like. Why are you worrying about that. The thing everybody used to say they'll tell us how. You really feel about that greg that i really feel it when people used to say. It's just a game when it came to sports that you and it's not just the game it's my life. Like i was a nutcase but when you have these things that come into your life and distract you those little things right those little things. I still get annoyed by but then there's always a bigger issue to to go to. That's probably has something to do with trying to diagnose yeah. I talked to a therapist many years ago and i was like. I don't think i could have kids. Because like i get hung up on all these things now imagine if i had a kid i'd be hung up on everything the kid was doing and she said you know. No because you wouldn't have time or you wouldn't even think of those right. Be so into taking care of the kid problem. Is you have way too much free to lot of free time. Yeah time no doubt. I'll give you an example last night. True story i m exhausted because the day was long dealt a lot of could house getting the house in order. It's great. I don't wanna sound good complain about a lot to do especially with the show so i finally after sabrina struggles to go to sleep. We finally get to sleep. I just go into the bed. And i'm don i mean i just i fall asleep within ken sack it's done then. All of a sudden. I hear you know i start to get pushed. Hey hey greg that's my wife hovering over. Oh you're in a new house now. There's probably all new sounds and things like that. Then i wake off and i'm like totally. I can't figure out if it's a dream or not. And i see that there's because we don't have blinds yet house there's orange lights that are like i could see in the ceiling of the place meaning that there's something outside. You guys getting busy with outlines help getting busy so so save sable enjoy that apparently so She goes outside. What are these people towing. So i look outside and it's it's two guys would hard hats on that are clearly in a utility truck that are working on a poll. Or ask one i. Yeah in must have happened there are. We didn't lose power or anything but some must add so two guys that taking a look at something you know. They have the the truck lights on and everything just stepped on our grass on the property. What do you think they're doing. So i'm like nothing. The shotgun out. No nothing i said. What do you think these people are gonna show up. Murderers disguised as utility workers. That are going to come into the whole in murder us. You know what they could be. They could be people that go around looking for people who don't have ba- lines film for the windows out of the bucket. We're getting the blinds soon enough but they are ordered there ordered. How's your designer without waiting on so anyway. So she goes. You're not worried about this at all said no. Why would i be worried she goes. You don't wanna go outside and ask them what they're doing so she's whispering this whole time. Yeah and and i said mom i get a child dogs it there people working on a telephone pole or are they to do. Do you think that if you want the blinds direct and had blinds. She would have not known this because she wouldn't have seen the l. white probably. Yeah probably but blind. Yeah i can. I can't believe you don't have blinds. Well i'm not slots what are you doing. I mean do you. Have you put a towel up their tape italian. Just nothing right now. I mean just nothing. It's just there. We have windows. The somebody came in the second closed on the house and measured them and we ordered them. The first things we did. But you know you can't win you move into a house and you don't have access to it yet to close on it so you have windows in your bathroom. Yeah we but mostly like one of the things that people take for granted. Oh my god. I forgot to put the blinds up. You know it'll it's fine but the point is that that's the type of sounds like somebody slackening to me. There's no there's no slacking don't no no. No no slacker pace. We are moving into done. Like i gotta you gotta get things done. And it's got to be done with hell's going on. They're getting done. I'm telling me now. Yeah i know well. It's it's about the fastest pace that we can make it out but but yeah so. That's that's one of those things and this morning. I got a picture of four things. That aren't working in a house. You know good morning. No nothing. Just four things in our work. What happens when you move into a house. But this is what i'm saying. I mean you can't get upset about podcasts numbers. I get upset about people back into parking spots because anytime that a little thing starts to bother me. I am presented with a problem at my home with my family that i need to address and those other things get pushed to the side. I heard one of dogs pooped in. Its bed that's right. I got a picture of that this morning. That's problem not you know is ellen nuts. There's still. I've told you that they've been having issues so she's not comfortable yet. No neither neither one of them. I mean it's like roleo. Yeah both of them have each other. Don't they do but they're totally confused. It's getting a little bit better. It's gotten a little bit better in the beginning. I was really worried but they're still adjusting to do. See these things you have to worry about right. You're when you're the leader of your pod. S you gotta take care of these. Thank shoulders bigs no. I know but appointment big shoulder. The point you're right the the point is that there's always there's the little things that you get consumed with all your family's little things i you're not worried about. Somebody backing into parking spot gets eliminated from you. It's all the little things that are in your own inner circle in your own world and all these little things dog poop utility workers whatever it may be a remote control whatever control whatever those are the little things take over your brain. You know what it's like. Oh yeah. I know what it's like so i don't know what's better. Don't being obsessed with the little things that other people do. You can't control the little things in your family. I don't know what's back. But i will say that i do like the fact that those things don't bother me as much as they used to. But i know exactly where you're coming from. I used to get obsessed over the dumbest off. People's bumper stickers the w- the way people said words they colin people chief and stuff like that would use to the little things used to drive me. Insane call chief our boss or anything like that. No hate that stuff. Hefei hefei a big guy. Ba- guy things like that. Each the morning show with boomer esiason and greg leonardi boomer and geo our guys are brought to you by dell technologies and so we'll get to the sports in a second but have you ever had something happen that you see and you just can't unseal it like i would think if you saw al nude you probably wouldn't be able to unseat that right. I know exactly what you're yeah. I ve sold that you have naked. Yeah hopeful yeah. It was either vegas. He can sign or something like that. You saw his asi so full-frontal rather not say you saw his penis. I'd rather not say well you did though venus. No no one seen my. We're as far as i know. Wait a second. You saw him naked. And you've been holding onto this for a long time. I really needed discuss. Wow how's he packing knock great. Say anything that i might. Craig was in a robe. You were in a role where eating cheese or something i was. I remember seeing you and your underpants. We we had a. We shared a hotel suite. That's what i'm walking around your underpants in house. Like we play in hyde the wrench no told me just come. Snuffle up be there. Jesus well what i saw. That i can't see i can't see that either. Thanks jerry. well i mean listen you saw not me now. This has nothing to do with nudity. But this was your your pals. Da sean marash on the cbs. Sports radio network. Okay so these two dorks put out a video of them listening. And i love these guys but good lord. They were listening to do. A leap love dueling online. And just take notice of how they're singing and the reaction at the end. Never mind the dancing that you can't see which was bad enough own good refreshing all the. Da was going up like the orgasm at this was marash. Oh god wow incredible if you saw it. It's even better. I promise you holy smokes. So yeah that's that's what's happening in your old stomping grounds. There's there's no one there to tell them. No apparently not right sitting there doing that hence why he is going. Really sean marash. That sounds i mean. that sounds very. i don't even know. do you think andrew bogusch. I guess it would sound like over here again again again again. that's brash. He really likes to to my lord. I've found that music And that was just a little while ago. So that's what you're missing. Meantime somebody cleanup marash. We expected discharge. Oh come on balladeer. Get a towel get rang if you will. If you're still using rings. Oh bogus get a new pair of sweat pants. And i believe a pair of boxer briefs for marash. We have to change him like a baby. We're going to change the man. Like a baby the baby powder the wipes wipe them down so we can finish the show on the mothership stupid terrible smell coming from this man's behind income mind eared brought it up. Well i mean how could you not bring it up when you see something like that so they actually did a video. Yeah tweeted this out. Are they working in the video. What do they do he's not a breadth for this stuff. yeah what else. Let's see midst to to from the phillies. Four three eight. And then now for nothing as marcus. Stroman was outstanding. Six innings. No runs four. Hits struck out three lots of ground balls. He says team really tough and he enjoys them. Extremely resilient I think we have an incredible group of guys. I think we have an entire clubhouse guys who don't waiver and the next guy that's going to take the ball is going to be david peterson. He will oppose former met. Zack wheeler later tonight. The mets now over five hundred struggle for the yankees lost to the blue jays. Seven three markets semi-in and rowdy tellers. Us at home runs for toronto and john. Ryu sinjin again right. He allowed one run on four. Hits seven strike outs for the win. The team the yankees very inconsistent at the plate. Aaron boone what is up that innings hard. You know it's it's a game of failure and apparently base. Running is hard to as gary sanchez. Ran them out of inning In the eighth with a base running gaffe as you know a lot of double plays in. This game here was dj. Lemay hilo blazer. It's one of those things where you just wanna keep being aggressive. And so far they need to figure it out because it has not gone. Well they will have these series finale this afternoon jamison tie on last night. Three and two thirds five runs on eight hits. He took the law. She got corey kluber going today as he opposes. Ross stripling also from baseball Just note last night. The red sox did beat the twins. Four two so they have won seven straight games after losing their first three to start the season. Bobby dalbec had to rbi doubles i in that game And then we've got time. Did you see the nick sabin conversation yet. Does he talked at his wife's high school reunion. No i have not so safe and goes with his wife and for whatever reason he stands at the stage and he talks to the crowd that's gathered there and he told a story of how the two met and got together. And i'm curious at the end of this if you think he's being funny or dushi new game. Funnier douching funny or do she bro. I broke this up in the five little segments because he talked for about three minutes and at first he talks about how he was trying to court his wife but she would not give him the time of day she would never ever date me. Never ever go out with me. She had this guy named making shafer that she was always boyfriend with. She was from the city. She went to east fairmont. She was a the queen. Bee the drum at and all that stuff and you know. I mean i just could not get a date fair enough now. Remember the name mickey schaefer. That's gonna come back at some point here now. He goes on to say how she simply would not say yes and then we learn a little bit about him. Country bumpkin out here pumping gas every day. And it's in those days it's full service now amidst it's not like today somebody comes in pump shown gas you collect the money. I mean you had to clean and windows. Check the oil. Change tires. Mufflers greece cars. I mean i was filthy dirty black fingernails all the time. Okay so you get that. But the tables would turn. She finally noticed and i finally got a date and she dated this making shape guy for like six years so when we go back for this reunion lo and behold mickey schafer owns a service station Now are we mocking him or not. Marin i've been married for forty two years so however many that was minus five. So i said i am not going to miss the opportunity to drive by just to make sure she kind of knows how she picked yeah. I'm not sure if i'm finding this. Think the audience counted hilarious. They're all laughing not great. And then here's the end by mickey shaper service station and i said there honey. There's your boy. Mickey schafer said if you to married him. That's where you'd be now. She said bull fighter married him. It'd be the head coach at alabama. I ended well. It didn't well. I'm watching it like my god shavers. How many how many dinners you think. Nick saving gets up and talk saddened. Probably thousands of he's probably told this story before and you know it's perfect. It's funny right. Ended the yeah. It was the grade satellite. Hey look at me. As compared to even mickey schafer exists. Yeah that and it really ended was like she's the great woman she would whoever you know type of thing but it's still it's still a little tangent need missing the guy's name three times The nets beat the t. Wolves twenty-seven ninety-seven sets up a big showdown in philadelphia tonight. The two teams thirty seven seventeen tied atop the eastern conference. We'll have it for you on the fan. No idea was playing or not playing like game for brooklyn. The knicks will be in new orleans tonight as well rangers blank the devils three. Nothing goals from zibanejad are timmy. Panara and pablo butchnevich negro Made twenty seven saves rangers though still four points behind boston For that playoff spot. Because the bruins beat the sabres in a shootout three two and the arizona. Cardinals signed former steeler. Running back james conner time now for a moment of the day brought to you by casa migos. Tequila goes to kill a is brought to you by those who drink it all right so When hyun jin ryu burst onto the scene boomer did a sportsman. And about him eddie. Being the bad guy that he is was there recording it and he saved it for years and years until the perfect time came like today they were held down by hinge on ria six and two thirds one run on its onion ru high on gen ru. What is it how you said again. Jin right is high. End ru on jinro opposite. Jinro come on hon. Jin ryu dodging john. Thank you yup. Yup not really very all right. Let's take that out onions from and about three years ago there you go moment of the day. Great grade wednesday. Are onions basketball. Jin ryu again say it again. That jerry was not the best part but the thing that amused me in the beginning you go. What is this woman from that. Come from bernie. Madoff said yeah. He just died yet. Oh well okay go. I got no comments after that. He's just dead. Bad guy went. Rip a bunch of people off eighty two years of age and now he's dead so gone all these people that were associated with the mets in the news. Now you know whether it was wilson ramos. I know that larry twitter loves to do rest in peace. Like people love to like. Hey rest he thinks get civil. Those didn't know what the good for us to be not even like the baseball people. No way i don't think so but there's a chance you're estimating twitter loves the rest in peace. Now i know they might get rotten. Hell my by some. Yeah all right. P. yeah yeah you know what. They'll be some people who call. He got caught up with the wrong crowd. Rest in peace is the wrong crowd. Always see someone posted a picture with bernie madoff because that's what people love to do when someone passes away and if they met them once they'll take the picture that they have with them and then post it and be like rest in peace. I have so many times stopped where i was about to do that. Big of you saying that this person died. But let's make it about me. Here's the two minute interaction. I had with this person. I'm going to post on social media right after they died and i couldn't resist. Tom seaver passed. They still do. You still did it. I i might. I must have missed you bastard. Why do that. I couldn't resist myself. Those picture with tom. Seaver now's the time to do is take talking about half the time. Drop it right in. Drop it now right right out of the sky. Good job l. Each the morning show with boomer esiason in gregg giannotti boomer. Ngo finally. i don't know how many months after this came out. I've got a four-pack of al's boring beer in my hand. Yeah you know. And allie remember. We used to do the The wine bottling. You add alice flooring. Wine did and he had a great label for that. So you guys down there in down there where you are readily beach beach. They're great job with a very nice job. A man named ben. Douglas made those labels right. Nice job now rally beach. What's really mary. okay. So i add the west ham brewery. You have the bradley beach we got covered and you know they must all use the same canning company because it all looks the same. They day look very similar. Noticed that yesterday when you brought four with four packs as well. Yeah i guess they do those beers and four packs six packs. Now's your is yours. A double ip or no. I don't think so it's not. It's not know the doubles more alcohol. This is the single six percent. Yours is almost nine percent get lit up. Oh yeah you know from one of those little definitely. it'll change. your day gets me lit up. I can't imagine what the the on percents tied knocked me on my book. Yes so how much do you think. I could sell these four to dan and quarter because he's out of his. There's probably no more out there. Are these the last eighth while i have of tomorrow. I'll bring in eddie's and jerry's but then yeah that's a nice thing about these al is. There's a beautiful place for you to sign them. Bright really easy for al. The sign up. Oh yeah why. Did promise. Dan and carter right he He had bought many beers and he kept all the cans and asked if i would sign all the cans and he's gonna do a twitter giveaway. No and i agreed what was once guys again. Nope no problem when those things like. You can't say no for some reason why was in that moment. Can't say he was not doing it. He was such a supporter of this that against you. Yeah it's is else had done something like that you would be all over. Nobody cares. Dan carter rights do a beer. Can giveaway twitter twitter beer cans. Nobody's following him with dan's lips on them stands. Dna might come in handy someday. You'll never know you never know. That's right although. Dan is very much a beer. And a glass kinda guy. It's just interesting every time i see photo. He's he's always pours it at a nice class. He's a classy dude. Very very classy. I have to say that. Dan needs pretty well. For himself he'll he. He tweets photos of his dinners and stuff like he makes nine dollar steak for himself. Unlike us pretty good. Yeah he's hit or miss with it. Or you can also cut up hotdog impose the stuff and i'm like what the hell hell this. I'm eating spaghetti o's tonight. I know any post. A picture of it is is the brand. I got from the stop and shop in the spaghetti o's that i had to eat tonight on my come on. What are we doing. Yeah pork and beans tonight right. Look at this yum yum yum emoji with a tongue sticking out of president randomly. You'll have like a log. Ooh beefsteak purple potatoes. That fell off the back of the truck l. a. I don't. I don't know what it is about dan. His twitter account some people's twitter accounts. That i just can't get enough of. It's like a peek into his life. It's like him and peter schwartz. I can't get enough of the good thing about both of those guys. You know who they are. they don't hide. they're not hiding behind some. You know elliot's there who they are. That's that's it. that's probably why you like it. This is who i am. This is where i'm at all right. Well thank you al. I can't wait to Have these this weekend and enjoy the al's boring beer. Filing each the morning show with boomer asya sit in gregg giannotti boomer and geo when i get in this chair for the podcast. This seat is warm. Who should be at. It's weird. i don't think i hand off a warm chair gio. Because i don't think i have like the but mass to produce a warm chair i think after i get up he probably farts into it. Love sports love. Culture will have got a brand new podcast called take line hosted by me jason concepcion and two-time wnba champion rename. 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Trade Deadline Special

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

31:41 min | 2 years ago

Trade Deadline Special

"Baseball tonight the PODCAST. This is the trade deadline special July thirty first two thousand nineteen gene. It's about five twenty three about an hour and a half since the end of the trade deadline and I'm still trying to catch my breath and buster only choice farkas here producing and Dave Hey Sean field is with me in studio. Hi Dave good afternoon. Buster and Sarah Lang's with us on the phone. How You Doing Sarah Foster thanks for grabbed me sure I gotta tell you? My head is spinning like it's just <hes> you know I think it was Bob Nightingale our friend from U._S._C. Day who tweeted out right at the trade trade deadline. It's the dullest trade deadline ever and then he tweeted out five minutes later well that change in hurry brought back that line for Anchorman right that escalated Nouri sorry 'cause after the trade deadline passed four o'clock then we start to hear about the cubs getting Castalanos the the astros getting Aaron Sanchez Jobe Jeanie of course the headliner Zach Cranky going to the Astros and guys I texted a member of the Astros who I know and I basically said holy bleep and and he goes back holy bleep is right at the end of the day when we talk about winners and losers. I think it's pretty easy the Houston Astros Dave Yeah Yeah no doubt it. It's so fun I was up in newsroom with our baseball editors and they were writing their headlines Ace's don't get traded and then Yeah Boom Zach cranky the astros now with Ver- Lander Colin Cranky three of arguably the top eight pitchers in baseball yeah and they also get earlier in the day they get Martine Maldonado Maldonado catcher who they wanted to signed her in the off season but he was too expensive he signed with Kansas City and meanders his way through the cubs onto the astros. I mentioned they also get Aaron Sanchez. WHO's a perfect science experiment for the great pitching lab that is the Houston Astros and jobe genie to help out their bullpen Sarah? What did you think yeah I mean I thought they were already on their way to potentially winning this? Even before we saw the breaking news you know I saw that Aaron Sanchez named Cross a few minutes before and he struck Tuck me immediately as the kind of guy that they can help fix whatever you want to say whatever they did for Garrett Cole who was already a great pitcher and maize him so much better I think Aaron Sanchez is a very similar kind of guy in their numbers will help put him on another level and then they got Zakrzewski they have two of the most experienced pitchers in the majors right now now in just in Berlin Cranky and to me that's going to pay dividends for them in the postseason and almost everyone on this team is so experienced now that it's just so hard to see them doing anything anything other than marching to that world series right exactly Sarah. I'll start with you on this very specifically about grinky. What do you think the Astros are getting in him? At this stage in his career he just goes out there and puts out such a great effort every single day. You know I think when he first went to Arizona there were some concerns was he overpaid was he no longer that cranky the way he was his first year in Arizona was not great and that was on the heels of that one point six E._R._A.. Season where he somehow didn't win the CY young a young he goes out. He's a four thirty seven E._R._A.. In Two Thousand Sixteen and there were definitely concerns but since then he's just been so consistent and it's been on a whole other level this year and he he has that curve which is so much fun to watch and I'm just imagining him marching into that clubhouse and I know he's not a chatty guy but I feel like we're gonNA see these astros pitchers pitchers with these crazy pitches by the end of the month or next month plus. These guys are going to feed off each other. Don't you think cluster. I mean grank inky. I'm with you Sarah. Maybe one of the most enjoyable pitchers to watch because he doesn't thrive off a ninety eight mile an hour fastball like so many guys today just changes speeds hits spots hits coroner's throws in that defense pitch he so good I mean he's thirty thirty five now and basically as good as ever. He's healthy you know if you get to the world series you get help you at the plate if you you know when he bats just what a I've actually said this earlier he's one of the best athletes oh he's a good hitter at thirty five. He was shortstop of course he came through and <hes> there was some debate whether or not he would have been better at that than it pitching and and look jeff flu now did a Luneau the the answers general manager did a great job but you can't make a deal like this without getting Jim Crane support again in two thousand seventeen. He stepped up in ports. The verlinden Orlando deal across the line on the thirty first of August and given that grank he was owed something in the range of eighty to eighty five million dollars left on his contract. I I have not seen the final details on how that split split up but I mean Jim Crane has to be the one to say yes. I'm willing to trade the prospects packs into deal the money so you give it typically up to him as well and he kept his top to prospects and Kyle Tucker Enforce Whitley I know Whitley's had a lost season is in the area over ten but you know still to premium prospects. He kept those two guys and yeah the diamondbacks get four interesting players in return and could be a great deal for them in the long run but just what a deal for Houston two thousand seventeen with a very lander and now this deal Jeff Liu now I mean pain. He took his G._M.'s behind the woodshed yeah and Wade Miley who's had a terrific year for them is now. They're number four started. He might be the number one story if he was on the Yankees. We'll get to them in a second. Betray was going to tell you I asked you earlier in the podcast. We taped on Wednesday morning you know should we do a power ten and you're like yeah. We have to do one in the morning. I think the power ten is chain. Now you've got the dodgers it number one and we get the Astros at one a. and then we have the rest of the team starting at number five taking back these one as things. This is not how we do it. It's one and two but the Astros I really like what they did today. Oh one hundred percents go ahead of our power ranks. You should have one in one zero with the rest of the team. Now works breaking the rule is making up your own rules again. This is not allowed. I A hundred percent is a lot it's my podcast and you're at the end of the year and you're probably tired so just be quiet back there. I'll tell me Michael there you go <hes> so the Astros the winners the day and I thought to myself someone who worked in newspapers for a lot of years that my God is the second-guessers delight moving forward with two of the a powerhouse teams with the New York Yankees and I've been saying for months they need a starting pitcher. They gotta get a starting pitcher and then last week they get beat up by the rockies and then the twins aliens and then the red sox which reinforces yes they need a starting pitcher and they get to the deadline and they didn't get a starting pitcher because I know that the Yankees and I talked to folks there on Tuesday evening. They're skeptical about whether or not they would add a starting pitcher and they didn't get that guy and on the other hand. You have the dodgers who we talked doll summer. They gotta get a reliever. They gotta get a seventh and eighth inning guy. They got the they have to get a guy like a flip a Vasquez or brad hand or somebody like that and I know I know they've had very narrow focus in recent weeks and trying to get that guy but we got to the deadline and they didn't and look part of the reason why the Yankees dodgers are where they are is because the general managers have been really disciplined and to give credit to Brian Cashman and Andrew Friedman but my God if the Yankees he's rotation gets beats up in October in the playoffs and they get knocked out or if the dodgers lose in the seventh or eighth inning of a game and they wind up losing that series Andrew Friedman Brian Brian Cashman. You're going to have a bunch of idiots like me coming at them with all that narrative about how they didn't get it On twitter here on deadline day we can see the reaction from Yankee fans and dodgers fans and they are not happy today. You know it's it's tough being a fan of a big market team right when your team you expect them to make all the necessary moves that look that Yankee Rotation Sarah. I know you know this has been in a freefall. All since April April been worse every month since then terrible in July. Look I get it Tanaka Paxton. You know if if you get severino bag you might still have a good rotation in the playoffs and you have a deep bullpen but it just feels like they needed at others. Go ahead Sir Yeah and and I mean we were talking for our son in baseball broadcast this week in Boston. We looked at the top three starting pitchers on a bunch of teams that you would anticipate being in the playoffs often we compared the Yankees and the Astros and the Indians and the dodgers and the nationals I believe and the Astros were already far and away by the best and the Yankees were far and away the worst and that was before a couple more of these starting pitcher issues even J. happ pitched like okay yesterday but not great he gave up three runs but he gave up runs in the first inning and you know it just doesn't feel like they're in that echelon of competing on the pitching side and I I have to say Sam surprised I mean if you just look at recent history and obviously there was a change in you know I mean it's still Brian Cashman but certainly a change in ownership now going back a while ago for the Yankees accused with George Steinbrenner everything but you just expect them to make the move you know we've just gotten to the point where they're one of those teams and I would put the dodgers in the same boat where the past few years when they're in this kind of situation we just expect that to happen and you know I mean getting James Paxton this off season. You know everyone thought they were gonNA sign. Patrick Corbin they don't don't sign him but they go out and they get Paxton and Lo and behold they've made the move we anticipated and with the fact that there's no more moves after today that are going to pay pay off for the postseason are put anyone on the postseason roster. I was very surprised and I think there's going to be a lot a lot of second guessing as you said buster laude and I kind of liked it the nobody can change right. These are the teams <hes> you might be able to get a waiver claim or something like that but <hes> it's not going to be like it wasn't a pass in terms of getting big moves the Astros get the headlines I think people and we talked on Wednesday mornings podcast about the Indians and I call ravitch and I talked about how much we liked that deal for the Indians and what they added but in the second tier of winners no-doubt for me the Atlanta Braves in Washington nationals they closed the gap in my eyes guys between themselves in clearly clearly the class of National League Los Angeles Days Yeah. I think what the brave's did a little more than the National Shane Greenies at a very good year one point one eight e._R._A.. Maybe not that good these giving up six unearned runs which kinda hides you know his real overall effectiveness but for a bullpen their bullpens really they struggled in July. He's I don't know if he's going to be there closer or setup guide Luke Jackson. We'll see how that plays out Chris. Martin actually has the best strikeout-to-walk ratio true of any pitcher in baseball this year of at least third innings so too good arms the nationals little Mark Melanson who has absolutely throwing great yeah. I got a text from someone in the giants organization saying they're getting him right at the right time. I think what is last eight and two thirds innings runs allowed one walk nine strikeouts yeah in you know the national is a little more of a hodgepodge what trio that they pick. Daniel Hudson and <hes> it's better but the bottom line is at least say they made moves when I was in the nationals clubhouse a couple of weeks ago mad players. They're saying yeah. We'll we'll pick up a couple of guys and Mike Rizzo to his credit was able to do that. What do you thank sir. Yeah I mean the thing that was baseball is so poetic to me. Always I feel like I say that a lot and wall. These reports were coming in of these moves at the braves. were making their bullpen was blowing a game against the now like that's what was going on. They gave up runs in the ninth. Nationals tied it then then the Astros Astros go. I'm sorry not the answer is I'm sorry the braves go Josh Donaldson and hits a home run in the tenth inning off of Sean doolittle so you kind of get both teams bullpen issues news crystallized in one honestly like inning span total innings span. Maybe two innings and I think that I definitely like what the brave's did a little bit more. I think that they got the guys who are having better. Seasons are having more prominent seasons and probably fit a little bit more what what they're trying to do to your point about Shane Green Dave. He actually was the three seventy fifth so <hes> you know you wouldn't necessarily pinpoint the Tigers have had such a strong defense to have helped him out there so so it's probably a couple of different things up and whatever else but you know that's obviously something to keep an eye on you. Envision the first time he gives up a run. The world will end on twitter or something like that but I think they set themselves up really well and I just starting pitching has been so good and hopefully they can find some ways to give some of the young guys arrest grassed. Obviously freed was hurt for a little bit which sort of helped give him a rest and you. WanNa make sure that Sarah's not getting tired because they're gonNA want him on October Fifteenth and ideally early October twenty ninth but I really like what they did and I think the nationals did enough to keep themselves relevant in there. I think that you know I at this point. It feels feels like they're more in the wild card position but they definitely did something to keep themselves. They're not trotting out those same guys with that astronomical Balkany era yeah. It'll be interesting to see which team in the National League is the greatest threat to the dodgers. I felt coming. Today was probably the nationals. They helped their bullpen. I think the braves is made up some ground. I gotta say that generally speaking over the course of the trade deadline action I I mean there's no question the cubs front office tried yet. They signed Craig Kimbrel. They trade for Castalanos. They trade for Tony Kemp. They add Derek Holland. They add Dave Phelps. When we heard from Theo Epstein during the course of the wintertime they didn't have a a ton of payroll flexibility but they made moves and they've been frustrated because they feel like that. There have been so inconsistent so to me. It's kind of on the players now Sarah era yeah. I think so I mean I. We've talked so many times about the cubs about how we keep expecting them to run away with this. This division and I mean right now. They're not even in first right. They're a game behind the cardinals but the cardinal's didn't do anything they made one trade that was a player out for the year for another player out for the year. Tony Guardian Jet Jerko so that obviously has no real net impact on this year but the cubs are sitting here with a plus seventy run differential in second place behind the cardinals who have built something up there at plus twenty any obviously I think run differential is a pretty good reflection on what ends up happening at least in terms of making the postseason but I think that the cubs just did enough enough to sort of spice it up. Get some different guys in that lineup. Get some different people in that bullpen that has definitely struggled and I feel like maybe now they can run on away with it. I I it's going to be really interesting to see if the cardinals can continue to subsist with this exact same roster and I'm just I'm just not sure if that's the case yet the thing with the cubs jobs that put the front office kind of tough position. They don't really have any bad players so you're only all they could really do is incremental upgrades. The rotations -tations been good. It's been healthy yeah. The bullpen has not been clutch in fact I don't want to I'm GonNa Steal this because one of our writers is working on this piece so I apologized Aja to Jesse Rogers but the cubs they lead the majors and I hope I get this stat right in when the first reliever enters the game with a win probability of seventy five percent or higher they've lost eight Games which is the most of any team in the major so the pen has definitely not. Not Been Clutch so they start winning some those games they start playing up to their run differential yeah. I I think the front office is made. The moves and I'm sure the message you're going to go down to the folks in the clubhouse. Okay we did our work now. You guys need to step up an interesting creature. Inhabits the flat arid plains many an automobile dashboard the bobblehead it's most agreeable and will not along to anything despite having no brain function but when the bottle of had his how gyco not only saves people money but also gives them access to licensed agents twenty four seven online and over the phone not even more vigorously because he knows you should switch because yes switching to. GEICO is a no brainer. Glad easy can get whiplash. I think the strangest deadline of the day for me without a doubt the San Francisco giants France where you come in to the whole trade period and you're wondering okay are they going to go all in or all out and saying all in I mean you're keeping Madison Bumgarner and you keep in the bullpen together and all these tradable relief pieces and maybe you get a couple of modest upgrades position players and maybe at the back end of the rotation or you just just become sellers and it's like draining bathtub. You pull bumgarner out you deal him. You deal a bunch of relievers. You trade it in for value. They really tried to thread read the needle and I don't know if wild about what they did. They wind up keeping Bumgarner for the rest of the year so you can say to your clubhouse in your future hall of Famer a manager. Hey we kept mad bum the guy everybody loves but you traded their hottest reliever in milan-san and you traded dyson and a couple other relievers you did it gets scooter. Jeanette and on the on the base on the trade deadline special we did with Mark Teixeira basically gave voice to what I was thinking as I was watching watching that if you're in the giants clubhouse and you're a player and you've been playing great and you're hoping the front office believes in you what what Farhan Zaidi just did was like yeah. I don't know if I really do believe in you guys day which was appropriate. I guess that's kind of what we expected. I I'm just speculating here. You know L.. I expected to go all in or just sell you know. I'm sure you know now. He doesn't have the emotional tie to bumgarner since it's his first year championships the whole thing intellectually. I'm sure he probably wanted to trade everybody because this is the oldest lineup in the National League. Yeah they've had this unbelievable hot run. What six six point two percent chance still only to make the playoffs? It's not likely but I know you've said this buster. I agree you owe it to the players. They've put themselves. I was in a position to at least have a shot so give it a shot and I'm with you. Keep everybody. None of these trades are likely to you know what more ratio Autobahn I like. I'm he's probably a utility infielder. He's not going to turn around the future of the San Francisco giants so keep everybody and see what happens. Yeah I was surprised. How about you sir yeah I I was watching all of this play out and just trying to figure out what the what the plan was and you know it's just interesting to see the a-team kind of make a couple moves on either side of the ball right like make a couple moves of overselling but also a couple of moves of nowhere buying and it just really feels like that seventeen and thirty stretch just like through the entire plan you know into into the trash can right four hundred eighty was he was the clubhouse guy provided right in the meal like it's okay dinner served guys put down a bunch of celery? We give give him some down in the off season and see what he really wanted to go. I interrupted Sir. Go ahead no. I I agree with you. I'd love to know but I will say that you know I think that the the little if you really look at these moves they're pretty pretty much. What we I would expect from him right like he got the braves to pay all the money and that milan-san deal which I don't think anyone would have expected and yes milan-san hasn't been there hottest reliever of as you said but overall for the Susan he has not been great and I don't think anyone evaluating the giants would have thought they would be able to trade him contract and even for drew Pomeranz who has been really good as early ver- for four games but has been really good as a reliever but was really bad as the starter this year when he got to bond who is not a top prospect at this point or anything but certainly not cash considerations certainly not nothing so I would say that you know hopefully that giants fan base can at least take a step back here. They're probably in a good mood because bumgarner there wasn't traded and they can say you know what we really do need to sit back and see what the offseason brings from Farhadi because if that is a little window into what he's going to be doing doing I think he's going to make some really good moves for this team down over the next however many years which is whatever unexpected when they came to that deal with him. I got a question for you. Are you surprised that no team just gave some unbelievable offer from for Bumgarner that they couldn't refuse knowing I know two thousand fourteen thirteen five years ago but knowing his postseason history or are the new wave G._M.'s just to they won't do this annotate rentals yeah. They don't WanNa overpay for the rentals. There's no question about it and I'm sure that's the Yankees. I'm sure had that opportunity to talk about it. Other teams have the opportunity to talk about it but you know for two months is perhaps the days when Zack Wheeler is being traded for Carlos Beltran. Remember at one point that those days are gone. <hes> Troy stayed up past his bedtime. This it's five forty five. He wants to jump in here with some bleacher tweet. Today wanted to take the first one yeah. We got a quick tweet here from Brian Zero. Interesting question who says another not exciting trade deadline has passed. What do you think the M._l._B. needs to do to have more trades actually really happened at the deadline. I think he probably sent that lead you tweet and at the same time. Bob Nightingale sent out his tweets. I I actually thought it was okay Dave Yeah. I think that's fine fact act. I don't have the list in front of me but I looked at earlier. All the trades made on July thirty first last few years to six in two thousand and sixteen. They're only three significant trades. The next year therefore there are a lot more last year so I think overall yeah. I know Bumgarner didn't go. We learned in go but I think overall pretty good traded line day all right next question. Are you got this one all right. This one comes from Chris at Burgh fans years or four with the nationals bolstering their bullpen. Does this help them. MM separate themselves in the wild card race invite for the title. I you know I was saying before. I still think that the braves win this division but I do think it helps them. Separate separate themselves from the phillies. I think that there's a clear difference to me between those teams at this point the Philly's got corey dickerson. They did a couple of things but to me. The nationals had more promise entering the year and I think that it gives them a much. Better shot now listers or hurt. I don't know maybe maybe I need to back that up up but assuming that Scherzer's injury doesn't continue to linger which of course is a big concern. I think they at least separate themselves within the wild card race. Final tweet comes from Terry Haden at Hannah. This is for you buster. I'm curious. How does a three team trade go down yeah and the way that that it happens. I think is that <hes> the teams might agree on some elements two teams would agree on some elements of it but one team would say you know what you don't really have that guy. We're looking looking for an I don't know I haven't asked Chris Antonetti this question. My guess is is that they agreed generally that of the concept of Bauer going to the reds but the Indians probably said look. You don't don't have the young control outfielder that we're looking for since you're not gonNA trade as Nixon Zell. Why can you go and get a somebody and so then the phone call goes to the padres. And that's how fragile ray has comes into it. That's generally how it goes where one G._M.. Says the other G._M.. Hey can you go and find this type of guy. We're looking for and then and maybe the the reds called back and said we're talking to the padres and race available and it goes from there. Okay thank you for sending us to trade deadline questions. Use the Hashtag state which we do. We got about seven minutes to go and just a couple of quick ones Sarah because they're your favorite team. Can you believe that we got to the deadline and the mets turned out to be buyers because they sold nothing. They didn't trade syndergaard. They didn't Trae Zack Wheeler that in trade todd frazier. I guess they traded Jason Vargas yes but still the mets basically were buyers before the deadline. I don't get it Sarah. I don't get it and honestly even though people people were somewhat high on the mets entering this year. I don't think I even would have believed that if you told me that on March first hey we're going to get to the trade deadline. The mets are just GonNa get Marcus Stroman. Okay get rid of Jason Burs like I never I never would have believed that. I was pretty surprised I feel like they had some players that you know teams would've wanted. I think I even saw a rumor or about Luis avalon on twitter last night. I forget who it was saying. That teams are interested. I mean I don't understand necessarily not not doing those things and it's it's. It's just interesting. I mean now they're in this interesting situation with Zack Wheeler where I don't know that they're really even in the position where they would want to pay him the qualifying offer and if they if he does take it and if he doesn't then I'm sure they're not going to be in a position to really negotiate with what he's going to want. So that's an odd one one and I don't know I feel like they're just so many moves out there that can be made and one thing that we saw today is a lot of those kind of August I two thirty thirty first deals sort of happen today because they can't happen you know moving forward with the new way that it has this year like that Corey Dickerson trade to me seemed like a waiver kind of trade trade that we might see on August fifteenth and a previous year and is interesting with the mets didn't even attempt something like that. I mean one name that stuck out to me was John Ryan Murphy who is going going to the braves. I feel like you know he would probably be appreciably better for the mess right now. Then Wilson Ramos or Tomas Nido even if he were in a backup role you know maybe NATO's role and it was interesting to me that they didn't even come through on a on a move like that because if you are kind of claiming to go all in and then I would expect more on that side at the the very least so it's it's really an odd one to make one move and have it be like the big splash got this all going and then that's basically it. I would love to be the agent for Marcus Marcus Stroman right now because you talk about emotional leverage that he has on the mets during the wintertime. If you were to say you know what I'm looking for a contract and try to bully them into doing something because that deal was sort of the centerpiece of their whole summer kind of like Brodie van wagon in did last summer on behalf of Jacob degrom. He bullied the mets into an extension cave. I'm I'm GonNa give you four teams. You can take any one of them at some thoughts on one of the twins brewers phillies Arizona for the best day or whatever whatever ever thought of like what Arizona did actually I mean grey contract to get avalanche eighth. That's huge for that kind of organization. That doesn't can have a big payroll or big attendance. The weirdest rate of the day was the challenge prospect trade or what's that gallons mid in the majors now for Jazz Chisholm who entered the years Arizona's top prospect. He's having a terrible year in Aa very young but gallon. He's looked really good through. Seven starts dominated the miners plus. They got Mike leak that rotation. They kept Robbie Ray so I like we're there are sitting. Maybe for two thousand twenty I would agree. I agree with you Sarah. You WanNa take one of those. Three remaining tweens teams is like a game show you take the twins or you can take the brewers you can take the phillies. I'll take the twins you know I. I think that part of me wonders obviously I have no actual information about this but I wonder the twins approach changed at all with what the Indians did yesterday because I think heading into yesterday I think that the twins were seems like maybe they should be a little nervous with the Indians breathing down their back and the fact that they did get rid of Bauer and we don't know exactly exactly when Kluber is going to be back but they seem to be relying on that and maybe the twin sort of maintained an advantage a bit in the pitching. I mean not in terms of stars here I necessarily but in terms of what's going on on right now and give them a chance to maybe why did not gap a little bit before whenever it is that Kluber does come back because the only move that the twins made was getting Sam dyson right I mean unless I'm forgetting something or something that didn't happen today and they can definitely use a bull pin arm but they had a bunch of bullpen arms who they've fade or released within in the last three weeks or so who all already have major league jobs so it's not like they had a bad bullpen. I mean they had guys to spare so we've seen that offense as we've seen that high homerun teams don't really go on to win the world series none of the top ten in baseball history and home runs ever have but I don't know I just expected a little more from them and I'll take the phillies just mentioned it feels like that since Andrew mccutchen got hurt that that was like a crossroad and their season their offense has just not been the same maybe Corey Kori dickerson coming from the pirates will help to augment that group will just have to wait and see last one for both you guys <hes> Davey go first on this one now that we're here now now that the trade deadline happened the Cement July thirty first trade deadline no deals in August. You like it. Don't like it want to move it. I like it. I don't like when you can get a very lander like the astros did in two thousand seventeen and he plays one month for that team makes five starts and becomes the dominant figure of a postseason so at least now you got at least play two months with the team before that can happen so I like it. Sarah like it don't like it one a move. I absolutely love it. I just feel like anytime we add a ticking clock to something it gets so much better right like we saw that with the with the homerun Derby when the format change in two thousand fifteen obviously this is very different but my point is that when people people are looking back looking at a number looking at a date time whatever it is and that's it and that's final and you cannot do anything after that it just gets so much more gets to be so much more refund I think and I I know that people were I mean obviously as a four o'clock on the dot. Maybe a little concern that we didn't quite get the same kinds of moves but I honestly think that we did once as we saw everything else that happened and I also think that those those waiver deals are interesting and seeing how those play out earlier in the season when teams certain teams are less advocate than they would be a month later is going to be really interesting some of the things that we won't even really be able to evaluate for a while like the fact that the cubs got Tony Kemp. Obviously that was a bigger deal but that's the kind of guy who often gets acquired in August and he's the kind of guy you could see like stealing the crucial base in the world series right so it's cool to think that all this is happening in this time crunch to me. I would agree with both you. I love it because starting tomorrow. I'm GONNA get sleep. I don't WanNa talk especially especially you troy. I'm jealous exactly guys. Thanks for doing this. I know it's been a busy day my head spinning your guys head-spinning and I'll talk to you next sweet. Thank you thanks bye. Thank you so much and thanks for listening. Everybody have a great Thursday. That's what's the deal no no podcasts on Thursday because this is this <hes> podcast will stand for Thursday's podcasts and then you get to sleep all day tomorrow and go to Yoga Okay there you go you go double sessions and then on Friday. We'll be back back on board of the regular pod can't wait. Thanks for listening everybody. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight podcast. If you're playing fantasy baseball don't forget to solution to the fantasy focus podcast checkout

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Gist: Coaching Through Life

"The following program may contain explicit language. A It's Friday may twenty second twenty twenty from slate. It's the gist. I Mike PESCA that day for Seattle University School of Law and the credibility of tower. Read the none of the reporting by the New York. Times the disprove her accusations against Joe Biden and they cast doubt on her honesty and veracity legal developments have also gone against misread so CNN reported. That read did not actually possess a bachelor's degree though she does seem to have an actual law degree from the aforementioned Seattle University which says it only admits holders of Bachelor's degrees defense lawyers in Montgomery County California have announced they will be appealing verdicts in which re testified and apparently lied under oath about her credentials. You also inflated her role with Joe. Biden's office a week ago. Pbs Interviewed Seventy Four. Former Biden staffers. Non found her allegations. Credible they walk the hallway where read spoke of a hidden alcove and compartment where. She was assaulted. They found no alcove. Today reads lawyer dropped her though. He says he still believes her. It was unclear. Who if anyone was paying Douglas Wig door? Republican trump donor to represent read. Now it seems that the decision has been made. That read is no longer useful to whatever agenda? She was serving. Jill Philipovich feminist author and commentator has apparently concluded that reads allegations are not credible. And she blames for advancing bad faith claims actors. Who are not real feminists? She blames the right. She blames the left she tweets. It makes me so livid the same people who push these claims also brushoff denigrate as liberals then attacked us as hypocrites for not jumping on this story before it was properly reported. Those of us who care about sexual violence understood the stakes and tweet. It is true cynical types seeking political gain. Where the biggest backers of read story so we're bonafide prominent feminist rose. Mcgowan chided Eliza Milano for not believing read. I disagreed with in this space. Cornell philosophy professor man who called on all of us to believe tower read because Joe Biden was the type she said to commit rape Philipovich tweets once more. It was all a game of dishonest cynical. Gotcha from the beginning with the right of course but also from bad actors on the left who have low. Can't sometimes high key hated feminists since at least two thousand sixteen they use this as a cudgel with no regard to WHO and what they damaged but it should be noted. It should be noted that for all this blame mainstream process driven journalism. Did its job well. An outlets like the AP PBS and the New York Times properly vetted and reported out this story and raise troubling inconsistencies and outlets like vox and NPR and others. That I've mentioned just now chose not to rush to press terroris- story without proper vetting. Megan twohey Jodi cantor and Ronan Farrow won Pulitzer Prizes for getting high stakes sexual harassment stories. Right but you know what Laura mcgann a. Vox also got a high stakes sexual harassment story. Right it would seem right and proper because what she did was not put it into print before it was ready to be printed again. Everything I've mentioned. It doesn't disprove read allegation bullets. Note that all of the evidence since the initial accusation of all of it really only one bit that supports the charge of sexual assault besides zone testimony and that was a read friend as reported by business insider who says that re told her about the assault in nineteen ninety-five only a few days after. Maybe it was weeks after the business insider story came out. A dollop of doubt was put on that account as well because the friend Linda Lacasse said. Oh Yeah I had to. Have my memory refresh. Tara Reid within this last year scrupulous methodical journalism actually had a silent moment of triumph when it came to the tar read accusations agenda driven journalism did not be the Socialists. Katie helpers or Nathan Robinson were the intercepts Ryan Grim who may or may not be a socialist but as a prominent Biden Antagonists. And he's hardly ever written a harsh word about the policies of Bernie Sanders Matt Bruning. A prominent democratic socialist who has expertise in the world of financial matters and economics was somehow a major critic of the media for their reticence to report. Tower reads claims without proper vetting today. He tweeted about those who have soured on the believability of read including feminists women's rights advocates liberals and her own lawyers. He tweeted this. The damage being done by liberals right now cannot be overstated. Enough the idea that you can rape someone with a checkered past or other deficits because no one will believe them is being completely fide. In Service of Abidin reelection when you're only mode is scorched earth and when you weigh in with a flame thrower on issues. You don't know about on issues that are actually unknowable. You singe many would be supporters. There might be some committed socialists. Out there who aren't absolute bullies blowhards or bomb throwers when it comes to their public presentation. But I can't think of too many personally I know some and there's one prominent one we could all think of Bernie Sanders actually doesn't fall into those traps but the tar read story is a bad story not even for Tara Reid purchase more sad life. It seems but for those who blindly prop her up without proof and claimed belief when the only fair conclusion is at best ambivalence. It's a good story if you could call it that for the concept of waiting for the facts even if that story won't be remembered as particularly heroic for any of those involved on the show today spiel where we compare eras and ages and coolio on pompey's but I he's one of my favorite journalists and now one of my favorite podcasters funny and a little maddening when those skills so readily translate in the podcast against the rules season one. Michael Lewis looked at referees in season. Two it's all about coaches Michael Lewis naps support for the gist comes from our friends at rocket mortgage by quicken loans. Home today is so much more than it was yesterday but at rocket mortgage home is still all about you during these challenging times. We're all experiencing the top priority at rocket mortgage is the health and safety of the communities they serve and while things are changing quickly every day. 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Michael Lewis is the author of Liar's poker. Moneyball THE BLINDSIDE. The big shore. I guess the only one of those wasn't made into a movie. But he is the preeminent chronicler of an interesting thing inside out usually told through a compelling character now for the last couple years he's been doing a podcast called against the rules. If you're saying. Is that the podcast with the ugliest cover art it is. But that's by design season one was a neon yellow background season two as neon green background season. One was about referees to about coaching. Very broadly. Speaking Michael Lewis. Welcome back to the gist. Having me so I think I've read most of your books and I also heard talk. You did with Malcolm glad well we talked about the difference between writing a nonfiction book and podcast and I took away or as I was listening to season one. It struck me. That most of your books are convergent. They have a thesis and most everything in the book is an exploration of that thesis. Not always an argument and there's a lot of character development so we care about the people who get to and work out this thesis. But it's all coming back to the thesis whereas it seems to me that the podcast divergent you have a theme and off this theme you could do theme and variations. Does that seem apt very well? Put I think that's absolutely true. It feels like you tell the orchestra what they're playing the different instruments play with. They play a little different and so each episode. We started with a character a role in American life and explore the role in various ways. Every episode speaks to the role. But it's not one argument running through the whole thing so referees last season you started with a literal. Let's go to Secaucus New Jersey hub of the referees of the NBA. And they look at all the game film so that is the very literal and then get more figurative this year. I had read your essay in two thousand four in the New York Times about your high school baseball coach. When I heard it was about coaches I thought oh he'd be leading off with that. But in fact you lead off with more of a figurative example of coaches which are people who help navigate the very purposefully Byzantine system of credit and banking. Why'd you go? That route couple reasons was it was just fun. There was a character from the first season named Katie highland who had been trapped in a hell of student loan debt and who had also the need for someone to coach her through how to handle the rest of her debt. We started go fund me for her and gotten rid of the student loan debt at the indices. One I was talking to you. Now you're free and clear. She goes actually no and she start. Explain to me how she handler finances and I thought this is a situation crying for a coach. She needs the money she needs someone. She needs someone to both kind of teacher how to behave with it. And how to handle these things and also take some of the burden off of her. I felt like I was watching someone who could be a pretty good quarterback but should never be calling their their own place and turned out that there was in the world and emerging money coach. That was very different from financial advisers in the past. And there's not just one place that does the one place we focused on. Was a place called tally. Where a fellow named Jason Brown essentially built a business to coach people about money but also to remove from them the more difficult aspects of manage your credit card debt and saw himself as a coach and so we put them together. I thought one. It's a nice bridge from season to the next because you've got the same character carrying over and two I wanted instantly do establish. It wasn't about sports just about sports. We have sports running through it. But I didn't want to open with sports. I wanted to broaden. People's sense of what coaching was all that caused me to start there. As opposed to where you might have guessed having said that episode to is that story about that High School Baseball Coach. So we do get right back into that pretty soon and that sort of explains I mean it. Gives you the stakes? I think that episode. Does I think so too so in episode one we meet this Guy Brown. He helps coach. You through. Not Making mistakes is in some way the necessity his existence is that a referendum on what you were talking about and season one that the referees didn't work. I mean if we had proper refereeing or rules with that system we might not need a coach. Now it's not always true. I mean there are coaches for distance runners and rules. They're pretty simple. But the presence of coach sometimes is only because the system has gotten so out of hand that only an outsider can help come in and help consult you navigate through that. This is totally true. That the absence of a decent ref in the consumer financial space has created this need for coaching. And when I think of what Katie highland looked like and like millions of Americans look with their credit card debt before Jason Talley existed. It's sort of like you told the kid. They got to go play basketball and they walk on the court and Everybody. There is teaching them how not to do it the wrong way. So they can beat the front so they can beat them on everything. That Katie Highland County in her life. We're people showing her the wrong ways to do things that they could exploiter. And no one was there to coach your well. And Jason Brown walks onto the court says no. Actually you don't dribble with two hands. Actually here's how you follow through a shot. And so all of a sudden she can compete with these other players right or even to make the analogy a little more applicable to. What's going on in the world of consumer finance at Halftime? A three pointer didn't get worth five except if it's a corner three in which it's negative to the. It's not just that the rules are hard. They're unfair they're written for your horribly nonsensical everything is designed to get in that woman's brain and get her to do the wrong thing together to pay only the minimum on another five different credit cards to not really notice what the interest rate she's paying is to take to use the credit cards more than she should. It's just like one thing after another. They're all these nudges built in which is just horrible coaching. So that was the other thing going on the episode is. I wonder reframe nudging as coaching or coaching as nudging because I think the two are very related that one of the things. A coach does is create an environment in which you make the right decisions. You're more likely to make the good decisions for all those reasons because it was a non obvious example of coaching. I thought it a fun. Way To start and your broader point of what connects the two seasons. The decline of the referees is a symptom of inequality and the rise of coaches to. It's sort of like people grabbing anything that will help them compete. Yeah and I think there are probably a bunch of coaches that don't fall into this camp but a lot of the need for coaching is. I kept coming back to the idea of complexity. Like you point out that Roger Federer greatest tennis player in the world has ten coaches or something like that if you include cooks in the tradition as but does he really need ten coaches or is it just that Raphael Dow has eight coaches. And you don't want to be coached by your complex rival or did you ever read the piece where Mark Bowed and sat down with Andy Reid then coach the Eagles and they watched the game film of the Nineteen Fifty Eight Baltimore Colts. I think he wrote the piece for the Atlantic after. Bowden wrote his book. The point. They're like you can't say that the fifty eight calls were at this exquisitely coached team but the players had extra jobs the schemes. Were really simple so now you need coaching. Not because the coaches are bad compared to Vince Lombardi. It's just an arms race of complexity. Same with a life coach the Anita life coach. I don't know the world has become so goddamn complex. Maybe need something to counteract that background condition do you. Do you have a life coach? I am extremely suspicious of the institution so we didn't really go there because I am extremely suspicious. The institution as well however we did go is. It's cousin is the so called performance coach which seems redundant but nevertheless the performance coach who now has turned up in every corporate office and his take kind of kind of walked out of sports and into various aspects of business life. And you find them everywhere. And when you sit down with all those people. They're kind of like coaches. We have a whole episode on those people. And what they do their mind coaches and you say. Why is this happening? Why is it that when young person goes from the Harvard Business? Golden Mackenzie expect waiting for them. They're a coach who's going to coach them through their career. I mean that's it's a new thing. It's become an expected thing at certain parts of the economy and you could measure their performance. I mean the people who are hiring them are into metrics and they're not going. I suppose human psychology being what it is anyone could be bamboozled but they have a way of showing that they're their magic really works. This is a very good point so no we found. No objective really persuasive evidence. That sort of was going to change your life however because I asked I said come please give me give me something that just proves this works because it's everywhere that doesn't mean it works could be on the wherever here for other reasons. I gave up trying to find the objective measure or creating the objective. Measure it but instead. I kinda went through it myself and I put my daughter through it and I watched my daughter my daughter's softball player. I watched the effects on her and it was. It was pretty spectacular and the same person who is my daughter's who we hired to be. My Daughter's performance coach was coaching at the same time. New York City firefighters. Who All who thought it was great and it was making the better firefighters. New York mets baseball players New York giants football players see Goldman Sachs traders. All those people thought this is working. So there's something there. I don't have something that will satisfy your skepticism. The kind of got experience it. And what's there is? I think a little complicated Ba- fund the same is wandering around working with a major league baseball player a NFL cornerback a CEO. New York City firefighter and a seventeen year old girls softball player. That's weird. I would say if the met. He coached was pita Lonzo. I believe Wilson Ramos. Maybe not the mets are never the best advertising for any so. I'm thinking about the difference between coaching and riffing and it does seem like when a League is founded or when the budget is alloted. Like it's never the first second or third consideration to fund and empower the refs. In fact the xfl there have been a couple rations one of the main selling points of the XFL a main alternative to the NFL. Every time is we're going to have fewer rules right. The fair catch rules not going to exist. We're going to have less. Imposition of the referees will so refereeing is really unsexy and half of your series was about how everyone for. Some reason hates the referee. The series was born in an anecdote about your daughter's softball team and everyone being extremely cruel to this referee trying to do her best as she refereed girls softball but everyone kind of loves and venerates the coach not always but there is the idea of the coach as a heroic figure for sure and the coach is usually the best players are paid the most. But then the coaches paid somewhere up there and sometimes has a longer tenure. So the lifetime earnings of a coach will be more. And I think that that might get at some sort of societal. Flaw which is to say refereeing is analogous to just the underlying conditions structure refereeing is analogous to structure and coaching is analogous to where going to not address the structure but help the individual. Almost always beat the competition. I mean I think it's accurate. I think it's where we are. I just don't think it's a good thing. Yes this is true which is not to say. There's not controversies within coaching and that the coach is also sometimes a very controversial figure as he is in episode. Two right either my coach if I had to track my interest in the subject back to its origin it was the combination of knowing that I had this coach who I know changed my life. I know that I would not be a writer. It worked for him. I know this person had this big effect and a lot of other people like me. Who played for him at the same feeling and raise the money to name the gym after him and at the very same moment that they're doing this the school's about to fire him because kids now think he's too tough on the parents of the kids think he's tough on them so something had changed in coaching. Where a coach? Who once thought to have this magic power was not allowed to use it anymore. It was too controversial because it was too tough was to heart failure. Whatever it was you know Bobby Knight used to be thought of one way and now he's thought of as another there so still some friction in the subject in the same way. There's friction in the subject of the referee. But you're right. The coaches are much happier character. The referee you know last season I had the feeling I was telling a Kinda gloomy story. This is in. I have a feeling I'm telling you KINDA Happy Funny Story. Broadly with a couple of caveats the other caveat is it's sort of like like who gets the coaching if coaching as I came to believe in kind of believed anyway already is actually really effective. It actually does work coaches actually make you better and all kinds of ways. Simple example people who coach to take the. Sat decide whether you go to jail or not if that coaching is really important and it costs money. It's going to be like the decline of the referee. The rise of the coach is going to contribute to unfairness. That people are going to get the coach and the people who can pay for the coach and you see this everywhere from college admissions to use sports to look around the world. People have a huge advantage because they can afford ever more sophisticated effective coaching. So Having Read Your Times magazine story now. Sixteen years ago about coach fits. I knew most of the story I thought and then having listened to episode two we get an update essentially and the update. I don't WANNA step on it. Too much is okay. The updates really interesting and really compelling and so in general. Here's what I wanted to ask you. I think when I read that in two thousand four and a lot of people who read that said this is exactly what we're talking about that we've overcorrected and perhaps the Great Santini or certainly the great. Santini was too harsh and Bobby Knight should never have choked that kid etc etc but we've overcorrected and we are now not understanding the power of actually tough lover be challenging. Kid It's kind of a tough love. That's what it is. It's coming from a position of caring so the kid if he's paying attention knows you care about him but it's not making it easy. It's actually making it. Kinda hard at almost intentionally hard in order to sort of develop the kids ability to cope with failure and with fear and that put them through failure and they'll learn how to deal with. It's the biggest thing that coach did and you know there was a path he could have taken with the kids. He had where he sort of could've made sure they only played in the league where the other teams weren't quite as good as they were and made sure that they weren't put in high pressured situations where they failed dramatically inconspicuously in front of their teammates. And so on so forth he took the opposite path. He was always looking for the hard thing to do and always putting kids in a position. That wasn't comfortable. Never let you get comfortable. Because he thought that was the big thing. Learn how to deal with that feeling. It's incredibly useful and it is incredibly useful and you only learn it as a kind of muscle memory if you do it if you've never been stressed the way he stressed kids when you eventually are as life will do to you. You're less able to deal with it so I think that's probably as close as there is to an origin of the interest in the subject for me. Do you think we as a society there's a pendulum or we've overcorrected and now we're in a more sensible place value tough love versus sensitivity. We've not come back in the other direction. The symptom of a society that does not allow the really great but tough coach to coach to shake. Kids is parents parents being involved over involved in the kid's success and the indicates performance. So I I still have kids in sports leagues and in playing kind of competitive basketball and softball and I could tell you the parent problem is not getting better. It's getting worse and worse and worse parents in the dugout parents on the court. Parents telling the coach kids should be playing shortstop second base terrace wondering why their kid was benched. Parents Kinda get the coach fired. That has gotten worse and worse and with the parent is doing is interfering with the development of the Child by preventing the difficult problems from being faced. So I would say at least up till right now. The pendulum has just kept swinging in the wrong direction. And coach says this where he saw things beginning to change where all of a sudden the parents were involved in all kinds of new weird ways. They're coming to practice telling him how he should coach and interfering with the relationship that he had with the players having listened to against the rule season one about referees. I then started looking at the candidacy of Elizabeth Warren. Through this lens she seemed very much to be talking about. I mean the main thrust of why she was running is essentially talking about reforming. And empowering the referees you just gave me a thought that I hadn't had but it's I think it's Kinda true. There's no question that season one. She was the spokesperson for season. Spirit animal yes. He's a spirit. Animal and Joe Biden and funny way is Spirit. Animal Season Two. That's what I was GONNA say. He's there to like make you feel better. Well we need. We badly coached team right now. America and we really do need is a good coach that we've been living with with a nightmare. Coach is all the bad aspects of Bobby Knight. None of the none of the good ones. It's sort of like imagine Bobby Knight but he doesn't actually understand the game of basketball. That's what we have now. It would be probably shrewd of Biden but certainly true in spirit to frame his whole candidacy as we need a coach. We need a good coach. Because look what's happening when you get a bad one. Michael Lewis is the host of against the rules. Season two is out now from Pushkin Industries. Wherever get your podcast. Thanks Michael. All right take care Ford with business. Podcast about people who've already made it. There are thousands of God's on how to become a successful entrepreneur. The problem is they only tell half the story making it work chicks out. This conventional wisdom tells you what it's really like to run your own company. The podcast covers the rough and the smooth with the help of entrepreneurs who don't pull any punches. You'll find out what it's really like to quit the nine to five and go it alone. Each episode of making it work covers one topic anything from working with friends and family to Howard anything from working with friends and family to how to fire somebody. There's even an episode on whether you should just give up in the first of a ten part series. Four of America's brightest business owners discuss when to start paying yourself they'll take you into the inner workings of their companies talking about the joys of living off instant. Rahman the risk of pain by plastic and the hardship and deprivation. You may have to endure before cutting yourself. Your first paycheck making work is not another podcast just about success stories. Instead you'll hear from people going through it all right now giving you insights. You don't normally find anywhere else so if you want to hear from entrepreneurs from tell it like it is tune in to making it work and now the Spiel. Today I tweeted twosome delight and some confusion which is the exact mix. I'm going for a fun fact about the age of a public figure. I'd like well. I like Trivia but I like these sort of details where you can found others and to public if you will by noting how old things are when they don't seem old why don't think seem old usually it has something to do with the place they hold in our lifetimes. Here's a variation of that. You're ready. We are further from John. Belushi and Chevy Chase and the first task of SNL then the first cast of SNL was from NBC being a television network in fact that has been true for a decade. All right. Here's another one. I love one. We are further from Nevada releasing. Never mind then. Nirvana was from the time when Pete best was the drummer for the Beatles. The Plea Ringo era. I don't know this might not work for a twenty five year old. Who doesn't remember the things that I'm talking about? You know Gulf War civil war which was first but people of a certain generation. Certainly one that I am in a well never mind seems kinda current. Nbc Not existing seems kind of current. 'cause pop culture to some extent is frozen in time in our minds in our memories how we relate to it. Let me give an example. So maybe you saw this occurred on the White House grounds today. Get those engine started. I WanNa see you guys drive around and drive as fast as you can but don't get hurt. That was the sound of a bunch of motorcycles. That were asked to ride around to make. The president feel powerful like Cialis commercial with the bathtub only implied. But you're the music in the background. Sweet Child of mine and it brought to mind that spat of a week or so ago that I talked about on the show. Axl Rose v Steve. Mnuchin and I had an inclination and I looked it up. Yeah not only did axl rose get the better of Steve Mnuchin. You can say that Steve. Mnuchin should have respected his elders because indeed axl rose is the older of the two. I love this genre to compare the age of people who we think are old with the age of people we think of as young the trick is to pick current people that we regard is old old in people that we might still think of as current. Maybe they're stuck in your imagination from that one big role they had or song they sang so here was my tweet today. All right how old do you think Mike Pompeo is all right? Got A number in your head. Think about this John. Stamos Elizabeth Shue. Julio and Michael Jordan are all older than Mike Pompeo why well it's just because when those individuals were born but I think it has something more to do with the place that Mike pompeo holds not you weigh in on the goodness or badness of his actions. But it doesn't seem to be a place of youthful exuberance. He is associated with an administration. Run by a Septuagenarian an administration that is in many ways a throwback. I'm not saying that. He looked so much older than his actual age. Fifty six and that coolio now doesn't I haven't seen coolio in a while. It's just that one guy. Stodgy unhip never hip doing things of somewhat cartoon Villainy Mustache implied twirling twirling a lot. Different from the guy who's flying through the air we're the cute girl who's co-starring cocktail but that tweet had one last line and I'm particularly proud of it and one actually expanded out and it was this. This is the fact that I think blue a lot of people away. If Mike Pompeo were a cast member on friends he would not be the oldest cast member. Yeah Lisa Kudrow is older than pump. Heo Pa- think about this. Sit with that. Can you fathom that universe? We're Mike Pompeo where a cast member on friends. It might go something like this. Mike. I'm not the right person. Phoebe Mike List Mariela Jenkins so how do you enjoy each other anyway? We've been engaged in deep diplomatic efforts since the first day of the trump administration. Go Way back then these days call them it like we see it accepting facts as they are not papering over them and working every day to improve America's position in the world. That's because we had a bit of a falling out Mike. My mom would car. I only wish the John Kerry had done that with Iran. That's okay mic. I have forgiven you. And now we're friends again and everything's great. I've said all I'm GONNA say today. Thank you thanks repeated opportunity to do so. I appreciate that. That is my gift to you this memorial weekend. Mike pompeo on friends that from the famous episodes season nine episode. Three the one with the secretary of State who visits conservative donors and political figures on State Department trips. And that's it for today show Margaret. Kelly is the gist associate producer. Her favorite friends episode is well. It's a three way ties a woman a monkey. The one that the couch and the one with the realistic description of real estate prices in the Nineteen Nineties Daniel Shroeder produces digest. His favorite episode of pompeo friends was the one with the scuppered summit with the teetering nuclear state. The Gist. You know my Dulas. Life Coaches Personal Trainers Strategy Consultant College Counselors Valet is very worried about the manufacturing sector debra do pro and thanks for listening.

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"Around. Sub Everyone. Welcome to another edition of Jay Bird watching I'm your host this evening. My name is Adam Corsair at I'm joined by my fellow Co host Mr Craig, board and Mr Brennan Petty car, and you listener got to hear our new theme song. So we hope you enjoy it. If you did enjoy it, leave us some feedback because we're really excited to bring it to you but. Guys how are we tonight? Do a wonderful come on. You have the sarcasm voice. On, the note of you mentioning the whole music thing we are having a joint venture here with Jaber watching in one of my friends who happens to be a stellar musician and his name's Thomas Thomas Richards, and this is the psycho moon project is what you were just listening to. You find him on spotify tunes, all those wonderful places if you would like to more into its catalogue, but he's been kind enough to join the. PODCAST you're as far as musically goes and we'll have some fun with it and you get to hear some new stuff week to week and go from there. Awesome. Well, we appreciate his. Contributions to the podcast and anything to sort, make an improve what we're doing, and certainly the music does that everyone loves music and it gives us sort of identity more than so that will already established and makes a little bit unique. So props. PROPS, props all around so Appreciate it. So. Look guys the big story of the day we are recording the Wednesday. I'm no idea anymore. Twenty eighth. Of October. But. The biggest thing is that there is no more baseball baseball ended last night and I call the guys, dodgers and six call it. The camera. You know how we have to click that should be like should elevate the top. Older. Vegas, they'll making us some money for the show and herself. Could've done that. But look at, you couldn't have written how this was loss and this sort of what I wanted to start with because look we've talked about the whole analytics versus intuition aspect of managing a baseball game. We all saw what happened during the Blue Jays postseason run those two games. We saw with Matt Shoemaker in his. Yanking out of the game a little too early for our comfort on and I think now even though we did that against the Tampa Bay rays I think now the Tampa Bay rays could really understand are sort of questioning of the decision. especially with what went down last night. So look to paint the picture the dodgers are the world series champions. Thanks to world series MVP Kevin Cash. I just hope. You know the wind demonstrated to me that we can't always rely on analytics we can't always rely on that. We have to trust our gut. We have to trust our intuition. This was illustrated last night by pulling Blake Snell out of the sixth inning with only one on one L.. It brought on the collapse and this is pretty much when the wind was set out of the sails and the dodgers, the sort of ran away with it. We talked about how this was actually successful for the raise. When we did the juxtaposition of what the Blue Jays were doing in the race we're doing because the rays have been largely utilizing that we talked about how they had a different lineup pretty much every game during that sixty game season. They were successful with it and apparently during the most pivotal game of the year at them in the ASS. So. Brennan we'll start with you. Do you think this will cause some sort of shift and mentality on relying that heavily on analytics moving forward specifically with the Blue Jays or do you think they're so stubborn and the you rely on the analytic so much that? Yes they're not foolproof, but they're mostly right most of the time. Yeah. I I'm kind of scared that the Blue Jays will continue to be. Stubborn and go by what is spit out of a computer whether that's lineup wise pitching decision wise or anything I think they can be used to inform decisions and this is what we said with the whole match Shoemaker Robbie, ray piggyback thing shoemaker went out there and absolutely dealing. So Blake Snow last night snow obviously going much deeper than shoemaker did but like just don't be so rigid. In everything I think snow was only at like seventy five, seventy hitches. It'd be a pictures only gave up two hits very few baserunners. They were all very low leverage, low stress pictures that he was throwing. So he easily could have got one, hundred, hundred, ten, maybe even one hundred fifteen because there as needed to save their season and win, and we would have had a game seven tonight I do think that this may be because a lot of the. Players you saw on twitter to not or like decision that Kevin Cash had made I can see this becoming a little bit of a a rift in organizations where maybe players will stand up themselves a little bit more and be like, no, not coming out of the ball game or why can't you just battening third? This is where I batted my entire career or all the way through the minors. Or this is my position or this is where I liked playing on the field. There's so many different ways that analytics shaped baseball and I'd be pissed off about Blake Snell. You could see his reaction when Kevin cash went to come get him. I be questioning if I want to stay with the raise long-term may requested trade because it's like look I'm you're a he shot up there and opening day you've tasked me with some of the biggest games. The last few years at the rays have had and you're gonNA, pull me when I'm been dealing in the sixth inning and a game that we're winning and need to win to have a chance to win the world series would've been tonight so. Yeah I. Hope that teams learn a little bit more I hope that teams aren't so rigid in their decision making a little bit more fluid because like we said with shoemaker, it could be your day. You could be going out there throwing a no-hitter. You're not going to take a guy off throwing a header. What's the difference for a guy who's given up two hits through six innings I think it was ridiculous and I do hope that the rays of learned their lesson and trump has sent shock waves to players to speak up a little bit more if they feel like they should be kept in a ball game or do what has made them big leaguer in the first place. And I point out the fact that obviously I agree that Snell should have been in the guys won a Cy Young Award two years ago. The Hell is this even a question that's the same thing as if you were going, you know what? Let's just take holiday out of the game today. You know I just don't understand why you would do the same thing with the match shoemaker thing and we're going back that but is it. This is where the game was went recently it's slightly ridiculous but then the here's the fun part at least I think is just obscene. You bring in Nick Nick Robinson Right Nick Anderson, and He's been. Was Nick Anderson before this year. Just saying is turning not trying to be harsher horrible or anything like that but he's had a stellar year but the guy, he's the one that started off in. Independent League baseball that just happened to break onto the roster if I remember the story correct. I believe that was. Saying during the Blue Jays series, I can't remember. But that's the same weird like point zero, zero, zero, zero, one percent. She has some of the Major League Baseball. He earned it. Flat out you know obviously the guys stellar. But you're taking a guy that has been literally one of the best pitchers in baseball over the last five years for a guy that literally has been wild card in the season I just don't think that was the right situation even put in. You know he's not. In anything like this. I know smile hadn't either. But in all reality and hide leverage out situations you gotta think that's Nell had had more on those innings at least in Major League Baseball. So if you're looking at numbers, how did that number not come up I, get it to the point. Okay. They thought that Nick Anderson was the right guy to have out in that situation but hadn't Blake's now pulled out of any game with only some the pitches and at that point having. Had any stress on in that game it was slightly ridiculous to watch him come out of that game. And the hamster fell off the wheel and died and was buried six feet under very shortly after that. And you know it's not like this guy was having a talking about Anderson. Wasn't really having bag Rita postseason. This wasn't someone that was like lighting up the radar gun maybe against the as he pitched two games there but you know and you could say New York looking at the against Houston he had an eight point, three, one, Yarra and against. The dodgers albeit just he he pitched what? Three Games a nine. Point Zero Zero your it's not that great and you I understand that when an algorithm tells you, hey, most of the time with a third time through the lineup, Blake nail sort of gives up or the hitter catch onto them. I don't know this is a doer Di game. It has proven last night you lose game you're out and it's not just any game. You can swallow the fact if it was a wild card game with the Blue Jays way. Okay. Even though it's still game one. We're talking about shoemaker the Blue Jays, lose a pivotal game too and get eliminated. You're thinking like we were. We're just happy to be here whatever like it we got slaughtered game too. It was just fun to watch. But this is the world series. This fucking series you might not get back there. There's a good chance that you might not get back there because hello, there are other teams around that are also getting better and not just that I know we're GonNa get into this whole the revenue loss with the, but you gotta believe that Tampa Bay is one of those teams that lost a good chunk revenue from all those fans that don't show off the ballpark. You know. There are teams that are going to be in prime position whether to succeed or not based on revenue alone, and I can't imagine that the Tampa Bay rays despite going to the world series are going to be one of those teams that can financially thrive as a result of the pandemic so that being said, going back to Blake's now you keep your ace. In You keep arguably the best pitcher in baseball today even outside of the world series, you keep them in and if you don't maybe this is just me being rash. Maybe this is a recent CBS kind of thing and I understand he's not making the decision alone. This is not just a pure Kevin cast decision, but that's almost a fireable offense I think. Two heads. To heads. Breakouts was on paper telling you that that was a problem. So I'm sorry, the NBA. The show simulator at the out of the park simulator that they're using. Never, once didn't give him the best idea on that one and maybe that was gut feeling maybe that was truly. Like having cash had going on. because. I don't know what's going on with that office, but they have done every right move that they've ever had to make in the last probably three years. So, this I don't think he's GonNa get fired over it, but it's definitely GonNa be scrutinized a lot. Yeah, they're gonNA probably be leaning on him look. You've been crushing it on one avenue here. You need to figure out the next piece of how we can get over that hurdle because that hurdle right now might have been might event leaving the Blake Snell in this bogging. But like I said, you remember with with Charlie. Montoya. We were in all agreement here that this wasn't a montolio decision. Are we sure this was a pure cash decision because if it wasn't then is not necessarily a fire will defend he's just following orders. I think he has more control over that system than Charlie. My Toyo has over the Blue I. Agree yes I think so too I think at least he has. Board. Yes. These. In the boardroom, he's the one that goes. Yeah I don't care what the fuck you all said. I'm doing this. Yeah. I hope that some of the race players speak up this off season because look we may never get back to world series in our careers than we were two games away to wins away from winning one albeit look at short and sixty game season doesn't matter. You still have to get through the plan expanded playoffs at that to get there. Where you could have been eliminated any other rounds so I would expect Lake Snell an organization that need to be having a pretty big talk about this decision it probably other key members to like if you're tyler glass now, another pitcher that could have been you in that situation. Could have been Charlie Morton whoever it is yeah. I'd be pretty pissed off and I would probably voice my concern and be like can we at least just look I'm fine with you shape using numbers to shape the decision but don't just don't let it guide everything you do like I was dealing yesterday there's nothing to refute or even say that I wouldn't have kept on dealing and that's the best thing here right like I remember we had that big debate about shoemaker alike, well which was dealing and the race looked extremely uncomfortable against him and clearly the dodgers looked uncomfortable at Snell so. I duNNo. Insane. How close that simulate that situation. It's insane because you almost brought the same quality of a guy in the relief in each situation to Aj call and. Anderson yeah absolutely. It's phrasing in fairness, right? This is also a pitcher this year that has not gone more than six. Okay. So the the analytics you can't have the suggestion and maybe it's because of previous years but you can't say Oh Blake Snell can't pitch late into the because he never fucking did it. So can you say that he he can. If I'm if I'm Snell I'm pissed because look I don't I don't think he's a free agent next year but that hurts your value. You're still just a statistic in this game. You really aren't. It's what have you done for me lately thing he couldn't even have proven it and I know when the Blue Jays were in the playoffs five years ago you had that Incredible Marco Estrada performance that's not a world series performance. But those are the type of games that we SORTA marvel that those are the type of games that we look back and say that was an. Incredible performance in the Tampa Bay rays and Kevin cash and or Kevin Cash. Completely rob smell that opportunity and if that's if fan the raise all three of them if I'm a fan I'm pissed right and if moreover complex now I'm pissed about this decision it's funny. You bring up the Estrada thing because I guarantee that if it was Toyo or this front office or regime or Kevin Cash, that Astrada wasn't going into the eighth inning. Or however long he went he went in I. Think he went eight and a third or seventy two thirds or whatever. Else you almost WANNA full eight. There was a lot of contact that was going deep in the outfield Gabby or whoever the decision maker was at the time I. Guess This was pre power really taking over dog bits who went with his. Legacy. Exactly. It's just like I still looking really good. He's still getting strikeouts. He's just whenever they make contact. It's just fallen short warning track. If that was this current front office in regime strategy may have only got five or six especially if some of that contact was getting harder and harder game on a lung, not based on look and feel. So I was one of my favorite games ever in that could have been robbed and say applies ablaze now think how scary that would have been in that year that bullpen we had if you took Marcos Straw all. That's rough. You're really leaning on a bunch of guys that we had one two out guys. Yeah. You weren't expecting Letroy. The bullpen and throw two innings. Sorry and he was the guy we added. It was a little rough in there that season started off with Miguel Castro and Sarah Suna. Hey, you know what? I can close. Yeah. Basically putting their perspective bullpen would have been in shambles if you're leaning on it like that direction. So big difference on that point between now, and then because actually free solid this year it's true in general. Not so much the end but. Yeah I feel you. Look I'm not trying to be the old man screaming at cloudy. It'd be like BRAC Monday. This is only five years ago, but you know we look at that performance and remember Astrada came in onto the Blue Jays as a trade for Adam Lind and he was just as bullpen piece from the brewers when we were thinking disguise terrible. Doing here. this guy's what does this kind of trade because Adam Lind was sort of hit or miss but we saw the potential that he never actually achieved but you know the fact that he was able to rise in the ranks and put on that kind of performance. With the change up in what not it was incredible and you can bet your ass he I know he re-signed with the Blue Jays was it a two year deal in two thousand and sixteen ended up resigning with the Blue Jays again. But he probably wouldn't have gotten that kind of contract even though his team friendly relatively if he didn't have that before it's all. So again now, I don't believe is a free agent year and is I I. Apologize I don't think he was because. We've talked about I don't think he was because the knowing the trade in the morning. Maybe. That's true but. You Rob Someone of that performance you rob the moments of the game that makes it great and you rob the opportunity for an extended world series run right you rod the opportunity for a game seven. It makes me question the decision making going forward as to look we can't rely. Heavily I and I I'm not saying they're not advantageous in some degree they certainly are they could be a suggestion Brennan as you were sort of looting to. But at the end of the day, you've got to trust your gut, and if you see someone dealing like snow in, Schumaker was in game one, he got to stick to sessions my opinion. No, no anybody follows all the black and white on the paper all day every day just saying. Doesn't marijuana religious tax. The And directions on how to put something together. You guys read any of that Shit. Look at the picture. Oh. Yeah. You know returns and services either. So. That's why you're GONNA end up like having Baloney pretty much. So lakes. Now actually signed a giant contract with the raise after he won the Cy Young Award Five, hundred, fifty, million dollars. is now going into his third. With twenty, twenty, one with contract and I say this is team friendly is Kinda like Most White. Push it. This year, if it was full season, he would have won had seven point six, million dollars. By. The end E we making sixteen. So It's very, very, very backloaded which you know what's going to happen. He's GonNa do wellness year on the. Flip them next. Off. When he's too expensive. Could see the time on blake snow trade being accelerated. If he goes into blades, he could build the case field. Look trade me when a cheap because the team acquired me give you more because I don't cost that much even at the full sixty, million steel for a guy of his caliber. So the thirty of the. Contracts. So he's the private if if he's pissed off enough and he goes makes the case be like I'm not gonNA show up spring training next year unless you trade me 'cause I'm pissed off about this. I wouldn't be surprised if this accelerates trade request door then trading him I really wanted it should look. Like I said. This is the first time the raise to the world series since they had David price at Eric Hanky on the team. was on like five teams in Iran I know I'm just saying as long as. There's no guarantee they're getting back. You're there and you could have robbed him an opportunity. I, keep harping on this of a moment that athletes live for in a worries, and obviously this isn't for the race to win it. They would have had to go into a game seven but still you robbed them of that Opportunity Lee Excel's his value as a player, but it also gives them confidence not just in him as a individual but in him in your franchise to do this again, you might not get there and. Took it away because of what a computer says to me that's just not right. There's something morally ambiguous about that. They think needs to be figured out really I. Think. The fact that Blake's now is probably one of the most underrated pitchers majorly base. Yeah. Yeah, and This could have been his garner moment. Then this is the you know the those kinds of things that you get and guys how many players that we have lobbed over the years I've never made it to an actual world series. How many football players? How many bits of lucky stars never make it to a Stanley Cup this could there is no guarantee in any sport and the grammar make this far like you were saying at him again this all you got to leave it all out in the field and I don't think they left the best that they could out on the field I will say that both offenses Kind of beat living piss out at each other throughout this. Situation and want to give you the moment I think the rays lost it. And it's not even in that game. Mammal Margot steals home Lost the whole series for? I really do think they had a chance to win that ballgame really run away with it. And by all of a sudden, you know, hey, you know what? I'll take a risk. That was a stupid risk. Do you had a guy out? Scored you and you should have stayed at third. There was a better chance of him be and drove in then trying to steal even though he had a huge window for I'm able to run home. It was slightly ridiculous. I just can't. I can't even imagine that how he would have even been. I think it was a regular season game. He wasn't playing that next day. Right well, look I. I stand corrected when it comes to at least last night and this is not to take anything away from what you just said, Craig but the dodgers didn't win that game. The rays lost that game last night on. So I should have said raised losing six. So I. Guess We'll tell you Louis Bats doesn't put the cork on that and pop the champagne with that home run. I don't know that's still enough going on I. Think the lingering. Yeah. Yeah. That home run it really drove it home for the dodgers I think. So. Well, look, it brings me on the flipside of brings me pleasure to see mookie betts on a world series not in a Boston uniform show. Boston what could have been if they were smart enough. They're going into a rebuild and that doesn't seem to be ending any time soon. Topics I actually have one leather question. Yeah. Go ahead Dick for. You think randy arose arena stays on the Tampa Bay rays are is he the biggest trade this offseason? Man. I actually saw today John Moseley. The GM of the cardinals was asked about Randy Roseanne is like look guys that's on me not going to evaluate our guys do a whole other evaluation of him and all that stuff I. could see people chomping at the bits to go after them me personally I need to see you do it again man like that was incredible and alone should have maybe even one world series. MVP lagging loss like that's one of the few cases where you could give world series MVP or seen in the past with the NHL Remember years ago when the devils beep ducks and j gear the Goldie just off the entire playoffs to get the ducks they're they got there because of him you can make the case raise got there because of a rose arena now I'm keeping that catalyst. Oh, totally catalyst all rounded. We take some pride in knowing that. Didn't allow a home Rhonda. Randy. Rosalyn in the. I'll take those two teams. So I have a story on that I. wanted to tell you and that's one of the reasons I brought this up. So you guys know that when I was with Jason, I was the minor league guy. I? Traveled so I was in town I was in even if it was a blue jays affiliate, whatever is went to baseball games town I was in I happened to be in Memphis in two thousand eighteen, which is the Saint Louis Cardinals affiliation. I keep a scorecard, every game I go to just because I never knew who I was going to see is the every hit his. Home run I think. They're in this series I went under go look and see if I could find that scorebook. I found it and I circled his name while they're you think because he stood out to me that game. So that was that was what I always did everybody. Either something I like to a good game or whatever I just sat there and I took my red pen in winter about nine iams over at the guy had athlete written all over him to me and. I'm not shocked looking back now. And picturing the I saw a few years ago. Is He's got the tools and the saint. Louis. Cardinals Guide definitely did Miss I. Don't think he's going to be good for that lawn but era, but he's going to be something that is very salvageable. Major League outfielder. and. I seriously considering. Thinking here. Who Knew outfielder? See who will overpay. When you say US Look on that. No I actually was reading an article on bluejays nation earlier and Cam Lewis said that I I have no reason to doubt him apparently arose arena is eligible for rookie of the year next year as well. I saw that. Yeah. Only had twenty three games raise uniform this year. So yeah, he's elegant Amir to eighty one with seven home runs. Look. Take them all these hot. I guess but look really no major league fear, right? Right. Sitting on the topic of the world series, this does have some blue jays lifeblood. INTO IT I don't know if you guys caught it on twitter. Would it did sort of blow up? Jordan Groshans tweet. Soon as it ended he said quote bluejays are next. Got Me kind of fired up because that's confidence that you want to see. I do have something I want to say about Groshans after we talk about this but. Craig. Often in are you that this is a reality or is this just like pandering to fans? He might believe it but like is it is it GonNa Happen? What do you think we're going GonNa talk about some of the stuff that's going on especially today Major League baseball players they're all of a sudden have an options decline today I was really really surprised on some of those names that were making that list guys and it only seems like A. Emily trade rumors, dot com blown up by the minute with news. I've been watching while we've been going here and there's more names are being that list from other teams. It seems like the nationals Adam Fire Sale. Just saying. So I, if this Foundation is SAT. They poured the concrete they've prepped everything. There is nothing that doesn't scream solid baseball team as sets right now in Toronto Blue Jays baseball. You add a couple pieces to this recipe guys, and it really could just be kicked up to the point where we went from regularity mild wings hot wings you know. I really would not be shocked if they all of a sudden went from where they're at right now, the full speed on the gas, but it really takes. Management selling everybody that needs to pay for these guys that would be those additions to dive into this and I really think that Actions Shapiro are positioned properly to be able to do that and I really hope that they can find those pieces to that starting pitching the relief in then the few positions around the diamond that we need to fill out because right now I really do not see anything that is screaming screaming screaming talent. I would be okay with some of these minor league guys that we have coming through not starting in Buffalo and being in their starting rotation. For example, I would like to see something along with our outfield that would really solidify center as much as I like grand check just think you're only getting what we've been getting Randall Grit chicken that is a physician we could improven. And so blue Jays fans, Donna, cost me. All right. Don. I get. It so but. On the Groshans note is he thinking he's part of he's going to be a part of this team is her as soon as next season with that comment would be my next question because the blue jays more or less than made it sound like they're shopping around third baseman as much as I'd like to see Groshans get a chance to just run with a job. We've seen that the Blue Jays don't just give out jobs lightly they make everybody earn it, and that was even including Armenian, trio of guys right now. A little birdie. told me. The JAYS are willing to shop grocery I would not be surprised. So just keep that. Yeah Aaron auditory. Our. Centerpiece for that show just thank you. Third Base is probably the only hole I. See Right now position player. Wise. I think you can be okay rolling in two twenty, twenty one with the outfield that ended this year. That's. To Oscar words, you definitely need another guy whether it's Michael Brantley eaten who was just cut by the nationals. Whoever it is, and then you definitely need a starter right behind Rio if you can go review Walker Pearson as your top three, and then you fill it in with a whole bunch of different options that you have. For next year I think you're looking pretty good and then obviously they'll pick up a few bullpen pieces on the way towards the end whether it's on waivers like the was Anthony Bass or Maybe. Go Japan route because Japan and Korea they played baseball to There's a lot of talent season. Yes. Listen season anyway. So they did and that could be another market where they look into going again. But on the Russian saying look I do think that they will be aggressive and shopping some of their upper talent because look you have Austin Martin who I don't think they know where he's going to play it but he played a lot of third base of Vanderbilt Edith play in the outfield to I do think that aerobics Martinez whose further down it could be a third baseman. Mega Geraldo. That's a pretty stack little. Collection guys down there to the point where Groshans values the prospect be not be as high as it is right now and I know he didn't play at all this past year. Just based on his last full season, how he was looking in Rochester at the alternate player camp and all that stuff if he in one of our catchers is the to centerpieces of a deal and whether that's Kirk or Merano Jansen or whoever it is, you can get a very, very good piece for that whether that's the start of lindores package or whether that's her mom Marquez from the Rockies I do think that there is a strong possibility that Groshans won't be in this organization next year I do. I think he's the biggest economical piece we have on the table right now that you like you mentioned. We had the death to make do with out yet but I would really be shocked to see if he weren't getting a third baseman in return would be the. Mike Catch. because. The other thing is I really know that we you touched on the Austin Martin. Thing I really would be shocked if he's not center fielder. I do I think that's where he's GonNA end up. From what I've seen from him just that. They need the death in the Outfield, and if you've got a guy that's already going to play over there. Yeah. I'd be gravy notes third base too but. Moving a little up there and see what happens in. It wouldn't have shocked me is. That Laura's correal junior ends up being a center fielder in the next two years. He's got the. The are. Glove. Exactly and that's the kind of stuff that he adapted left field like you like he was. A fish that jumping into water for the first time. Right there was no problems. I can do this all day and I think that next challenge would be for him would be to take over center because he actually has the speed range. Some of those routes they took the bog is we're not the most rate but he You know his athleticism does carry insanely well in the outfield and I the footwork that he learned playing shortstop, and obviously the frigging rifle has for an arm. So I would not be shocked I almost feel like we're wasting his arm and left field, but you did see the benefits of having his arm in left field. Speaking of canned for an arm it wouldn't surprise me I. Know We're harping on third base and I think that's a priority for the Blue Jays because I think ideally, I'd like to think, I'd like to keep rather everything else the same not to disrupt a lot of things but bogus has been on record that for the right player, and if it gives them an opportunity to win, he'll shift and he has a pretty good arm and that's putting it lightly. That's not giving him enough credit at all. So. Bray and you know you, you get a substantial are above average. That will add some stability and offensive production to this lineup without sacrificing that much defense 'cause i. feel Bogota is extremely underrated defender. bobbled a few balls postseason whatever I'm willing to excuse that because the Jays weren't winning that anyway. You put him at Third Base I don't see that to be that hard of a transition for him and if it makes them better sure. But I do think primarily they're searching for the third basement so they don't necessarily have to disrupt that but if it means as someone on the table to play shortstop. Why Not My biggest problem is, I. Do not want to see Kevin Bishop third base anymore. To do with him. I just don't think it's the right that I think have been him at third base makes him worry too much about his defense where he is actually one of the best hitters on this team. At least as far as pleat overall, the you know everything goes in that package, there is not much more you can ask ask for Bro from Cannabis Gio at the plate. So if you get him comfortable, I honestly would wonder if he would be guy if he moved Loris to center that he could take over in left field and still have enough of an arm to take over for that. But the until something weird like that happens he's second base all day to me I don't even care on shop in that position at all he's going to be the blue jays second baseman and honestly it infuriated me every day we saw him in the lineup at third base because regardless of what the Hell Travis Shaw was doing offensively, he was still better basement than anybody we have roster. That was what was pissing me off. I don't care what your frigging computer said even if. You'RE GONNA save runs by having him in defense playing third base. It's because of the our trade. That's pretty much the reason why it happened again, given his antics the end of the postseason I don't think that's going to be an issue anymore anyway. You. Circling back to the original topic here am I confident that they're gonna hit a postseason run. I'm not I know sorry a world series run next year. I'm not in that doesn't say anything about the talent that could be I just think that to really let this talent simmer. For Full 162 hopefully It's GonNa, take a season to get make those adjustments and to make those final tweaks and I think we're looking at a twenty twenty two hard push now again. If something falls into the lap of the Blue Jays that they can take advantage of it wouldn't surprise me if they do try to be aggressive and make that push as we talked about for the world series and Hey, look I'm for it. Let's go. But as things stand today I, can't imagine that this roster is world series ready Brennan. Do Agree. Yeah there there's still A few pieces for sure I mean the bullpen we saw you can gather a whole bunch of guys and you can have a really good one or put a lot of your kids in there developed in that way a lot of the offense of pieces are pretty set at in-place Again, like we said third base or if you're acquiring shortstop or second baseman. Whole moves guys around, and then you make the pieces fit Then they're set offensively to I, do think the rotation needs a little bit of work definitely needs to be rejigged. I would be shocked if Chase Anderson is back with this team, these moat nine, point, five, million and base in some of the cuts we've seen today we'll talk about the bet I think chase Anderson's as good as gone Look I mean. Tear roark will probably open up as the five starter because they signed him to be a starter but you gotta have somebody to replace him quickly in that rotation, which it could be a kid or it could be another veteran that you signed. Because look like I know that he was one of the guys I think he said this publicly or somebody made this point on twitter you'd never know over a full one, sixty two maybe he figured it out towards the end because there has been starters who got knocked terrible starts like Roark I five, ten, twelve starts whatever it was rumoured may twelve horrendous starts a few decent ones mixed him. So I do think he opens up but you have to have a guy behind you because Pearson isn't quite ready to be that one two, hundred year right now ed it's me like I'm sure we'll get into this in feature off in future episodes as free agency opens and everything my top priority right now is undetermined our it's Taiwan Walker just think he fits perfectly with this Corey's twenty eight I don't think it'll be that expensive he be had for your deal I've noticed he's been I know you probably do in this just a panda fans or just get people excited by A lot of people I've seen tie walker like tweets segued comeback to Toronto I think there's some interest there. I do think he wants to explore that a little bit more. I hope the Blue Jays do I'd be pissed if they just let him go out the door and didn't even make a legitimate attempt to bring him back. Yeah there's a difference between Trevor Bauer trolling different fan groups up to Boston. What do you think? Blue Jays? I don't. Doing podcasts, no Parker. There's a difference between all that and. For Me Walker sort of under the radar doing this, you have to look for in order to to notice it, which is good. So it's kind of incognito doesn't actually will maybe now that we're talking about it does but it doesn't necessarily you know heightened the expectations of the excitement for Blue Jays fans or their anticipation but at the same time it those that are paying attention much like yourself, Brennan It's something to keep in mind it certainly little breadcrumbs that mainly to something but. Look you touched on it let's roll right into it. The free agents that are available much. Moreover, the ones that were actually released. By various clubs I want to stick to the nationals for a second the decline, the options of Adamy in as you mentioned Brennan Animal Sanchez Eric Fame's hello former blue jay and how he kendrick all the Rangers shout out to Richard Births declined the option of Corey Kluber. Are Any of these players of any interest to you like both temporarily long-term I know Eric themes. Cool he's Jackie. He's got the look. Not, really that great Brennan Anybody stand out to you or you think these are just names and they've been declined for a reason. I thought was this elite Corey Kluber for sure. Yeah action but is read low right is extremely Bilo. Potential in I was going back and forth my friend on this and I know that Jaber watching account was taken there she goes may have seen it but he's barely pitched the last two years he's getting older. The only benefit, maybe you could get him on a one or two year deal maybe a one plus lawn or two plus launder anything like that. I love the name Corey Kluber I really do it just feels kind of like. I. Don't know if I feel that it's dumpster dive mood move, but it's kind of on the fringes of it because you're baking on a guy to stay healthy and we're already doing that with Matt Shoemaker if he's brought back and. Hundred reviews or risk as well. We don't know if he was ending his season injured the s that extra day that whole thing there. So Kluber is the only one was Adam meeting and then go look at look up a season. He wasn't good. Getting older too. So now the only one actually I'm not sure if you guys caught this one or not I know this is in the national long was cut loose by. Saint. Louis he can play some second base. He can play in the outfield and I know his projections over the next two years. Brendan coon on twitter was saying this about four point four four. So two point two a year. s pretty good. It's not bad. I would like to name higher but as long came here. That's not a bad little. Bat Dad you're on. So I don't know if you saw this one but Wilson Ramos was one of those guys at the mets declined. I saw that. Yeah I. Yeah. Get this report. Sarah. I'll go in here that veteran catcher that he keeps saying that we need. That wouldn't be the worst in the world. I know he's ten tends to be more of an offensive I Yeah. Catcher by. The guy's been everywhere. That's that's somebody could bring in. That could be the difference between Danny. Danny Janssen Alejandro Kirk having be crazy veteran guide learn from a maybe that's what unlocks their offense. You know they know how to catch both known how to catch and we've seen what Kirk could be possibly doing but Dan, Jenson guys, he was one of the better offensive forces. The last few years he was in the minors more or less got a pair of specs was just three hundred hitter period in matter what level it was and we saw the power, he's in buffalo finally. That's still there just hasn't been able to figure out what the heck that last little tidbit is to actually make it. You, know major worthy to me has ball skills is just not been the same for when I saw from the minors and I find it that hard to believe that it is literally just the difference between AAA and Major League Baseball. He's just not barreling it the same, so there's something different there. You know. Once I saw him when he was playing here in Buffalo that I just saw him dead nuts right on the screws on curve ball or whatever it might be. He's knocking two inches in the front of them. They just not the same stuff. It's almost like the same thing has been going out with glad that we started seeing a break out a little bit of. That, little bit of him just getting under the ball elevate is is not there maybe somebody like Wilson Ramos that has been a major league offensive force until more or less. His most recent contract is that last piece that maybe as the thing and then you get a good guy. If you make that playoff world series around that drug Russians is coming from. that. Those are the difference Veterans Win, team, win ballgames, and usually it's because they know how to get over the hurdle. The of these young we have a team a yawn yawn young guys. Really push the demographic and average age like probably two years by granted somebody like Rama's or even three us. He was also released by too. So that's two catchers on the market that we're going to be there to begin with. The Bilo state of their career, but there still could be something in the tank. Thank. They might even run away with starting job. You really don't know what you're going to get from either of those two guys right now. And one one. Mike. Michalik. Did you guys see he was released by the diamondbacks as well. It's but that deputy interesting to fill out the back end of the rotation for sure now, and that's what I was wondering if I would almost rather dump the two guys that you had mentioned in Roark and An Anderson and I would I would think that the tenure of somebody like Matt Mike Lee is better than having those other two guys that we've mentioned. and. I still think leak something in the tank regardless of the name. Alec. I think is it's so full. I. I was kind of interesting I was surprised at a team like the diamondbacks is releasing guys like that when they're going to be clearly scraping for innings probably this year. It was. Clearly. But in reality, I'm fine with that if they pay. Greek and we can scrounge them up to our side of the dinner table here we'll call it. Speaking, on a Ramos real quick it's. If he if the Blue Jays do sign a player like that, I think it's advantageous for all the reasons that you just said Craig but I do think that spells and I think this is going to happen anyway but this more solidifies it. Kirk is not common at least starting with this team. He's not he won't breakout camp with the team. And I think you're going to see Janssen get the bulk of the work which is fine still in maybe it's you know every fifth game or fifth day you'll see. Someone like Ramos, take a behind the play just to spell Jansen out a little bit. I think that would work to the benefit just to see what you have, and obviously if the project isn't working out, you sign for cheap doesn't work out then you can explore your family death and maybe at that point, bring up Kirk on depending on where he's at and how he's he's going development but. I don't hate it. The thing about Kluber Brennan as you were mentioning, it's not I. Think the name cloud really gravitates towards that. You know it's something attractive about it but to me, that's just another kind of Matt Lehto CICADA move. Just. I don't see that improving the team at all and that doesn't for me even adds stability. It's just the the aspect of that name being so compelling that were thinking oh he. Josh. Johnson to you is what I'm hearing yes. Yes. Pretty good where. Lots of day of he was. Yes. Really good. Actually I. Agree for sure on that one, you know it's not that I wouldn't like him on the team if it was cheap deal again, it depending on where he's at and the rotation of the pen but if cheap signing. I don't care find if it works. If it's an invite to spring training fine I don't care whatever. But. In terms of any of these guys that took my fancy. If anything just for you know. I don't know just for fun I'd say Eric themes even though he's not that good anymore I just really like him as a person i. See Somebody can go top shelf tanks. It just is. So Jackie's Alpha's faulk. He just has all these chains coming off with all the buttons done tattoos, Galore Weird as facial hair that is so creative I wish she always stayed a blue Jay but I appreciate the fact that he grew up in Korea and he made himself better. So in that aspect I'd like to see him finishes Koreans Blue Jays. But. Otherwise awesome that if we didn't have rowdy till as an Vladi, it's reduction same at bats I wouldn't addict with the best players you could bring in right now for that. To Save, as Justin, smoak kind of like the same age is when we originally grab Justin smoak. Continue to play in Buffalo yes. Absolutely. Just you mean when we continue to play. Yes. I'm not saying that because I want the Buffalo Blue Jays thing it'd be permanent I'm just saying ovid smart. People. They play at Buffalo next year Craig, you'll be able to go to a game I would not be surprised. This kind of we do smuggle yourself somehow through the border and I'll make sure you have a home. All right. I'll put fly there. That's right now loophole you could fly. had. Over the damn border. All right about that that logic. But whatever. So did you guys also see there was one other player that I thought was slightly intriguing from our infield talk a little bit A. Few minutes ago Colton long was declined. Yeah. Yes Not. This guy was really good but he's obviously been finding a ton of injuries. The past like four seasons. Yeah. The funny thing is I'm Gonna I have another weird count for you. Want equals next time when we grabbed him from the. From cartoon was. Or? Thirty playful padres started with angels 'cause rolling. Played Won the world series I think with the cardinals the one year. That's that yeah that sounds right. So where's Roland did rolling come from the cardinals? Yes. Yes, and then he went to Cincinnati we traded Dmitri E for we traded it. Yeah. It the offer. Yeah Yup I remember that yes. How bad I remember I was a huge yeah. Huge hype train coming in ever actually worked. Earth can do that to. Look all these options are fine. They're not incredibly sexy. They're not anything that jumped out the page do I think the Blue Jays are doing their homework? Yes. Do I think ultimately any of these players are going to be part of the team? No I don't. I don't maybe Kluber because of the Cleveland connection as a gift again invited spring training. But I think he probably be able to get a little bit more than that elsewhere. Maybe. Wanted, played third base though that's the only reason I brought that. Yeah. To me, that would be a complete desperation move in a by allow obviously. But. To a five year ago. So. If you give me Taiwan Walker and Corey Kluber than I'll be excited. Yes. Yes. On his own, but Walker and Kluber somebody new walkers level in Kluber than thrilled. Yeah walkers the priority. All right. Let's let's final topic before we get into the final topic. I just just jumped out at me while we were talking about the Infield. Have you guys seen that Vladi is working out hard? He is he's putting work. Yeah. Yes Aztec. News he's not taking. You didn't see it. I did not see it. INSTAGRAM. INSTAGRAM yeah. It's like every day or every few days. Yes. Well. The biggest thing that you could get out of that he's in a rhythm. Really think that was what was starting to click for him at the end of the season. You know he was able to an off the noise from all the bullshit. Around in the media about how talent AMIS against shit gathering and become the guy who was in my early baseball and you guys all I don't know what it was but did to me the between his last two weeks in the season was night and day compared to the rest of season I didn't even I wouldn't even look at the numbers. I was watching his at bats. He looked like a different guy, the plate and I really think there's something big coming for blacks future here it might not be right off the Bat I think he is going to be one of those slow starter guys every season. I really do I just don't see the cold weather thing helping him at. All right. But he could come spring training hot and that would be. Carrying this kind of work ethic through his off season. It's amazing what a routine will do for somebody, and as all of you know the only thing that Kobe has done to everybody at a minimum is fucked up the routine. Yes. So minimum. Burn down some money. If he got fifty bucks laying around putdown money on Vlad as MVP is going GonNa Work L. he finished the season hot and I mean, Hey, I think we agree we said this on an episode right at the end of the year he did look slimmer as long. It looks like he got a little bit of a dropped a little bit of weight and again we talked about this I don't think that's too much of a coincidence with his better as the season went along better shape ready to all. If he comes into camp looking good all drought fifty bucks an MBA MVP, you know what? If he doesn't whatever I? Believe the Guy Yeah, you know he's this is legit. He's running in sand when you run in sand, that's an insane workout. That's that's cardio to the Max and so. If you're trying to video of Sargon no say if he's trying to cut weight, that's how you do. It runs a video of John Carlos Stanton the year before he won the MVP with the Marlins, it hadn't doing that uphill carrying medicine balls and it was one of the most ridiculous thing it's hard. Renting in this thing. Gazelle going up like a forty five degree. Sand, I was like at least to his knees and he's Nothing you have. To pay. There might be something there. Maybe he's you know he's on the good season, Giancarlo kick. Nothing to propel off of this, that's not flat surface you still sort of sink into. Giving I don't want to be thermodynamics and whatnot, but let you don't have. To push off right and so you're using your core in you're using your leg muscles to the nth degree just to propel yourself off of that, and that's a huge cardiovascular workout. So Vladimir Growth Juniors conquering this which he has. Munster. Do it get ready I think it's going to be good. To make the joke because most of our listeners around Lake Ontario here there's a difference between Beechwood. San. A deep beach with rocks. Yes. Okay got. To go here for this. Yeah. This is some serious stuff but I let's wrap it up with this topic. Look we talked about it in the beginning. Let's wrap it up with this. bleacher report has reported that the MLB has lost approximately three billion dollars in revenue if you ask Rob Manfred closer to. And revenue I'm going to go with bleacher reports because. Well, fuck robbery effort anyways. Even go middle of that. Let's say five. Yeah. So there's going to be consequences. There are going to be ramifications when it comes to how the mobiles going to utilize revenue money, how they're going to be able to pay certain employees and how they're going to keep certain employees. We've seen thousands of layoffs specifically in the Scouting Department. And that does not spell good things from Minor League Baseball for me to the point where I think what we saw with the draft five round draft maybe taxi squad that could be a permanent thing. And it's unfortunate because you have all these levels of Minor League Baseball, some of which have already been eliminated. Really wouldn't surprise me I don't want it to get there, but it wouldn't surprise me if you have minor league scrapped altogether, which is going to create this mess in a conflict when it comes to contracts when it comes to stadiums built and whatnot that's not for me to sort of figure it out, figure it out. But Craig, you're the Minor League Guy Man do you see this as a legitimate possibility I think that there's not going To be at least AAA, baseball is kind of weird or are we heading towards something like the MLB like the NFL that one year drafted you're on the squad and you're going to see that kind of these kids younger and younger getting drafted or they're going to win later in college much like the NFL players much like the NBA players when they're drafted in order to have that experience to be ready for the MLB what do you say? I think a lot of it's GonNa Change us because the fact that kids aren't fully interested in baseball and that's slow on the major league. Baseball Commissioner's offices fall. You don't market baseball I'm sorry it was real reason that kids aren't interested in baseball and it's not because of the game it's how you fucking market period i. don't care what the hell they say and all this fact that you know. The reason football basketball, and all these people are doing a better job of bringing in. Young viewers because they have actually adapted. The fact that you know, guess what you know locking all your content and everything might be bad or maybe you should actually you know market your players in a way that is fun and fashionable and. Becomes popular. Completely. Ridiculous. The fact that the and honestly I think that's why they think they can get away with doing this. They don't hope there's going to be as many people playing baseball so that point one percent or whatever. Already it goes to the major leagues they're already gone all those people are GonNa make it anyway. Let's just frigging take all these other. You know this is all baseball. Here's fat get rid of this, and then keep the players that you were going make it anyways. But the problem is baseball in the states and in Canada to is the difference between towns actually having something fun to do outside the House. Right the fact that the. Appalachian, League where the blue the Bluefield Blue Jays play and I told you guys many times on this show and is one of the that's Miley ballparks I ever been just because of the field off park that town no more baseball. And a whole league that is based on the fact that the that's what's going to get kids interested because there's no teams in West Virginia, there's no teams actually in Virginia. You're talking about the whole middle of the Goddamn country where nobody sees anything but minor league baseball being at risk right the fact that you're going to be doing something like this is frigging ridiculous there's no way for everybody to go out and do something and. I'm sorry we are living in a pandemic world, but there is going to be some point. A year whatever hockey it tends up taking the fact that something is going to go back to the normal reading Goethe's frigging concerts and sporting events again. You know it's not going to be or what's the worst case scenario that we actually start broadcasting more of these seasons and things like that. I really don't understand why everybody likes Minor League Baseball these towns if they can't go, they were Wa find a way to watch it. The people that like doing very fun contest. It's like you would if you were in the Ballpark, we saw that with the blue. Jays during the fifty fifty raffles everything online this year. There's plenty of ways to get people interested in this game, and there is a failure to keep the people interested in this game with. Cove it and everything going on but there has to be something I. Don't see any reason why they should be sacrificing the minor leagues to the point where they're gonNA literally just. If they do that I would be shocked if we even even people interested in Major League Baseball team feel Major League baseball in five years. It would shock me. At least ten Yeah Yeah no I think he said anything incorrect there at all Craig it's it's unfortunate look all these sports leagues are going to have to make some shots. There's GonNa be some everywhere. We already know the NFL salary cap is going to go down next year baseball does not have a salary cap maybe teams that are paying over the luxury tax are going to have to pay more in taxes to Major League baseball wherever that money goes I. Think some of the names that were cut loose today are a result of what teams know is coming. In terms of reductions and. Forecasts for me unlike Craig, you're right in saying that there will be a time when we can pack a stadium again and there will be a time. We can pack a concert venue again. I'm hoping that we can start events in twenty twenty one even at not full capacity thirty, percent twenty percent capacity. Or back exactly some money is better than nothing weather the storm a little bit longer these guys that own these teams are billionaires like Jerry Jones can cover the loss of Major League Baseball's revenue on his own does networks. They are enough rich old folks like that that can weather the storm with these teams and keep baseball going keep minor while going and I agree if some of these small towns in the middle of nowhere lose it no matter where it is like what the hell else are. You GonNa do in town like there's nothing it brings people there it is a source of revenue for the towns it helps with their economy so. Absolutely, be like, yeah we saw Kris Bryant from wherever in the cubs organization through the Iowa up to the cubs we get this I am in the middle of nowhere now he's playing big city Chicago. So it suck. There's GonNa. Be some more consequences as a result of this loss. I think we'll see that over the coming days I think it started with some of the names. We saw cut loose today a cult WOM probably somebody who wouldn't be cut loose on circumstances and some other guys. So it sucks it's GonNa have to happen and there will be something that needs to change but it may only be for the year or so and then maybe twenty, twenty two, we can go back to a sporting events with sold out crowds that would be the hope. I think when it comes to rob Manfred and this is the point I was trying to drive in is that he's he's looking he's looking at. The League's around him that are sort of gaining popularity or ones that have maintained population popularity, of course, talking about the NBA and the NFL. The MLB is sort of fighting behind where these two leagues are accelerating. The NFL despite itself. Despite itself but let's be honest here. It's because a fantasy football that is excelling. It's one hundred percent on sports gambling. Right. But It seems that Manford of wants to mirror that, and that's how we saying this is the successful model when he's not paying attention to the nuances and the differences that make baseball and how it separates itself from the pack. That's what he should be embracing. So I think what he's doing is like I, mentioned when I introduced the topic is that he's looking at the NBA and looking at the NFL he's looking at these draft prospects and saying, look these are immediate returns right and you had the fan base sort of excited and thrilled about that number one overall pick or a lottery pick That's something that we should instill in our fan base but because let's be honest guys honestly. The MLB drafts is the last draft. I care about inconsistency other too I really don't, and it's because honestly that the fruit of that isn't. Apparent. For another four, five years down the line, you don't get to see that player may be awesome and we'll be a different story because of how talented he actually is but by and large these players, you're probably not going to be a at all or be now for a couple years. So I think manfred sort of wants to mirror those other to lease and say, Hey, let's have immediate returns which I think will not only dilute the pro the product of baseball, it will make it worse. At that point yet, you're not having the best talent on there because these are reason there's a minor league system for these players just sort of acclimate to the game in go through the levels you throw a kid from college right into the major leagues he's going to bust. You're going to have a roster full bust that you could have had potential and it's not gonna you're never going to see it because he'd never was groomed properly and maybe grooms the wrong word but. Prospect Bill Talk Right? Yeah. He hasn't been in the system and that's what separates baseball you have to sort of embrace that and so on that line, Craig agree with you that the products that you have now major league baseball players that you have. Now that's what you should be embracing. Right then again, Trevor Bauer we'd like to talk about as polarizing figure because yeah he may still be definitely was Maga-, and we we had these concerns about how he treats women specifically online but in terms of how he's suggested to Manfred or how to make this game more compelling to kids. Have the players miked bring out the personalities on full on board with that one hundred percent that's what you got to be fixated on and because of covert I think we're GONNA be introduced to a lot of strange nuances that I don't necessarily think we would see and I think it's to force. Sort of do these things one way or the other I'm hoping that it's going to be in the positive direction that we're suggestion right now and not hut a bunch of leagues, and again I'm not an economist. So I, don't know how the money situation works. But Man, if they cut me minor league baseball altogether, do Worcester Massachusetts just built a stadium for the new Paul Socks on the the new AAA red sox that might not be anything and Worcester, was relying on that for people to come and check out their city without that no offense wooster worcester, your cities, a Shithole. I can say that I'm a new Englander I can say that and you're relying on that revenue of tourists coming in you have that you have this brand new stadium that your tax dollars built for nothing. Now. The mentioned the fact that every bluejays ballpark for their miley. Seven or eight years I think the Fisher cats. One is the oldest one at this outside of Bluefield Denise. One has been. Built recently or upgrading completely didn't even being the example. Yeah. Most recent completing overall. Almost to the point where I got it. I agree with you a hundred percent. I think the biggest prominent solving is if they are looking at the economics of this whole thing, this is the most short-sighted bullshit I've ever seen in baseball. It is purely to continue having manfred line the pockets of all the owners of Major League baseball you do this, it will be the end of the talent level. We are completely used to seeing at the major league level and undermining is not even the best way of saying it's completely like. Pushing, baseball into a fucking locker throwing a grenade Nicole. Is just suicide if you take away the minor league, baseball, Kobe? Yes. I get that. That's a problem obviously. But if this was just above right al-anon, they were making this i. Am this right now just to keep going I think they halfway minor league baseball this season right now with no fans I really just don't see how any other way around it, and then you're going to have to find a way to help finance it and help the teams finance it because it is just like I said, the talent level in baseball you're going to see guys that are now makes seven errors and a gain. All of a sudden at the major league level just because they didn't go through the minor leagues, I really learn how to do it. It was a big difference between high, School Baseball College Baseball, and going to the major leagues, and there's a reason all is in place football hockey all that other stuff. The college level is so refined in own sports. It is a lot different baseball is just kind of getting into that same ballpark at the college level. We're talking within the last ten years with the college world series and stuff it's been around forever. But like I said, it's not been that refined level of we're getting that Tyke talented coaching down to that level, and that's why you've always had major league baseball doing the minor league system versus those other sports doing what they do. Yeah it's well, if we're going to try some positivity on this minor leagues aside. You know you had some teams hurt by revenue or lack thereof without fans in the stadium merchandise sales whatnot on especially owners that are sort of independent outside businesses. This is Jason Sort of take advantage of the situation because Rogers communication definitely didn't lose money. Right I think about all the the internet speeds the upgrades how many people were you know maybe upgrading their cable subscription or whatnot there's telecommunications company that's definitely raking in money still she's giving yeah. There you go five still using cellular data probably charging you guys like crazy for it as a result to Cohen people have been utilizing it if not the Wi fi systems that you guys have. The cable everything right and research reports suggested that the Blue Jays viewership was up about twenty three percent. So that's raking in more revenue especially from sports. Again, this is without fans in the stadium. I'm not saying that they made money they might not have because again, attendance was definitely lacking in something that the bluejays rely on but they they probably didn't lose money and they did their dividends. L.. Sort of supplement that in that being said. If other teams are behind the eight ball when it comes to revenue. It's going to be very difficult for them to sign free agents. I don't necessarily see the Blue Jays in that position they should be primed and ready to strike and be willing to push because I don't think they lost as much revenue in comparison relative to other ownership groups in the MLB. So burned do you do you agree? Do you think this is prime time? You're the connecting here? You know what you're paying I'm sure you have Rogers. What do you think? Yeah No I. Never. Even thought before every in fact, people probably definitely upgraded their Internet packages because you're working from home and needed more reliable Internet and wanted to watch on TV streaming warcraft, morale streaming everything. So there was definitely no shortage of money going in the Rogers pockets even if they did give a bit of a break to some people who can pay their bills But yeah, I I never thought that I actually agree with it for shore like their company that is a central and is government backed as well. I'm pretty sure there's that's why there's such a monopoly. Authors and bell have. -opoly over people's Internet in cellular devices here because producer the government has their hands in there too so. I think. We're here in the states just. Basically, there's like three companies still. I do think that that's never thought of something that be worth investigating and I wouldn't be surprised if you know what? Maybe with some increase viewership maybe they charge a little bit more for companies to advertise on their TV channels I'm maybe they maybe lost a little bit of money especially with all the money they poured into renovating Salen feel but I wouldn't be surprised if they got a lot of that back after the season. Insane. Rights were donated come on. And feel that dreams probably as we're talking right now is they probably didn't want him in Buffalo for the winner. Also. Talking about like postseason merged that alone. Dude. I spent forty dollars on fucking hat. Derive after they were eliminated. Yes. Still on my wall no but still. For it. 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GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 425: Hall of Fame Results, Realmuto Signs, Other Moves

GSMC Baseball Podcast

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GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 425: Hall of Fame Results, Realmuto Signs, Other Moves

"Golden state concepts baseball podcasts. We cover everything major league from spring training to the world series. Got your favorite club. Cover from new york to boston to la. This is the golden state media concepts baseball podcast. Welcome in to another edition of the gsm. See baseball podcast brought to you. By the mc podcast network. I'm your host kevin mahalick. It is thursday january twenty eighth and this is the last show of january. Twenty twenty one. We're cruising right along baby. Spring training pitchers and catchers will be here before you know it but until that time we got a great show lined up for you here today. We're gonna be talking hall of fame voting results giving you guys the updates on everything that took place on tuesday evening when the ballots were released. Then we're going to get into the big signing of the week which was jt. Rio mutoko to the phillies able to talk about my local squad here in a bit more detail than we'll touch base on all the other additional signings that happen and wrap things up with news notes rumors and where we think everything else is going to play out here in the next month or so but thanks again for listening. Let's jump right in here today. Like i mentioned first. Conversation is around the hall of fame voting results that came in on tuesday evening and it was a rare results where nobody was elected to the hall of fame here in twenty twenty one and of course there are three big names in three big stories to get into here to discuss but the fact that there was nobody elected. This was the first time that the baseball writers association of america or the b. w. a. did not elect any players since two thousand and thirteen and prior to that it had last happened in nineteen ninety six so this came after a wave of players. There were twenty two guys elected between twenty fourteen and twenty twenty and then of course this year came in with zero and one thing that surprised me was fourteen out of four hundred and one submitted ballots were left blank and that was a record. And i'm going to be honest with you. Those fourteen guys should be removed from the process. I mean honestly. Let me start by saying that my opinions here over the next ten minutes may not reflect that of my employer because i think some. You're listening to this may get a little bit upset out there but the fact that fourteen guys have the ability or the privilege. I guess i should say of voting for the baseball hall of fame and left their ballots. Blank is an absolute embarrassment to themselves and an embarrassment to the game of baseball. Because you couldn't tell me that out of a ballot that includes you know the top three of schilling bonds clemens scott rowland billy wagner gary sheffield that you don't feel that any of these players are worthy of entering the hall of fame. I'm just absolutely disgusted by that. And the amount of people who would be up in arms to just get a vote for this particular process to have fourteen individuals not submit a ballot with a name on it is just absolutely befuddling and honestly makes me feel sick to my stomach. So those fourteen guys. I know we won't know who they are because the ballot is full of cowards. Who won't make their ballots public. And i don't know again why because they're clearly ashamed of who they are or not voting for or they're scared of the backlash if you don't make your public ballot your ballot public. I think again you should just be removed. And i'm ashamed that you are even part of this process but overall that feeling just continues across the board for me here. This year. I mean the fact that curt schilling was not elected to the hall of fame is an absolute disgrace to the process. Because you're not voting on who the person is what type of guy they are who they support in politics. What they say on social media you're voting for the guy who played baseball in between the white lines and curt schilling. Strictly as a baseball player is a no doubt no brainer hall of famer. I mean the guy's got two hundred and sixteen wins over three thousand strikeouts and in the postseason. He's eleven and two with a two to three. Era one of the best post-season pitchers in the history of baseball and people are leaving them are leaving him off of their ballot because oh well i don't support who. He supports for the presidency. Or he's a homophobic sina phobic this that and the third whatever you want to say it. And whatever's been written on the internet about schilling and his preferences. Well if that's the case we should probably remove everybody from the hall of fame before the jackie robinson era because clearly every one of them was racist. They weren't playing with african americans. They weren't playing with international players. So let let's get out of the hall of fame because they're clearly racist and have horrible character i mean. Let's let's talk about walter. Johnson cy young. Everyone of them should be removed from the hall of fame because they were horrible. People who did not want to play with african americans and force them to play in the negro league. I mean it is just befuddling. How society here in twenty twenty and basically the people that vote for this fame have self-described or self proclaimed themselves as the morality police or this guy has steroid connections in. this guy. tweeted these things. It's just absolutely disgusting that these people feel it is their right to keep a hall of fame baseball player out of the hall of fame because they they do not like who he is as a person. I don't care who you are as a person. Curt schilling yeah not a great guy. I agree with you there. But that's not what this process is about. That's not what we're discussing here. We're voting on hall of fame. Baseball players not hall of fame humans. Now of course you want every person to be a good person and improve and be positive and all of that but that just doesn't happen okay. We're humans it's human nature so for the b. b. w. a. to sit there on their high pedestal that seems to get higher and higher every year and their heads seems to get bigger and bigger to be like no. I'm not voted for him because of what he tweeted back in two thousand sixteen. You are an absolute embarrassment to the sport of baseball. You are an absolute disgrace to this entire process and your vote should be rescinded immediately. As well as this goes for the other two gentlemen on the ballot barry bonds and roger clements the two guys who are most associated with the steroid era. Here in this outcome. I mean clearly both of these guys. I guess have used steroids. Even though barry bonds never failed a steroid test. he's never been banked for everybody. Just assumes quote unquote that he was using them so in a society or a country where you're innocent until proven guilty. Apparently that just doesn't happen to barry bonds. Barry bonds is clearly guilty until proven innocent and again. I'm deciding that as a hall of fame voter that even though he's never failed anything. There's enough dots there that i'm connecting to keep him out of the hall of fame i. It's just absolutely disgusting. It is gross. And you just can't race. The steroid era in major league baseball. You just can't do it. And the fact that commissioner bug seal ick who oversaw the steroid era who clearly looked the other way during their early mid late nineties early two thousands because he was enjoying the mcgwire sosa chase back and forth at brought popularity back to the game of baseball. Because he was enjoying barry bonds chasing then maguire's homerun record bringing fans into the seats. He gets enshrined into the hall of fame. The guy who oversaw the entire steroid era but the players who actually played in the era when they were doing nothing illegal again because steroid testing did not exist at the time not allowed in the hall of fame and i decide that as a voter. That's my right to be the morality police once again and say that potentially the best player in the history of baseball arguably top five definitely top three. In my opinion. I mean we. Just talk about hank. Aaron babe ruth ty cobb will. Barry bonds is up there with all the war accomplishments and everything that we've seen but he's not allowed in because he played during the era where it's just assumed one hundred percent of the guys you know. We're we're doing steroids and then on the other side. Roger clements seven time cy young award winner arguably again one of the top five or ten best pitchers in the history of the sport. He's not allowed in because he threw during this time too and it was clear that he used performance enhancing drugs. But again the guy who oversaw it the leader of the entire organization who just closed his eyes. Look the other way. Yeah let's get in. Let's have a parade for mr seelig. he's fantastic. He brought popularity back to the sport. But the guys who played and we're the reason that people actually came in to watch baseball once again and not absolutely crushed the sport. They're not allowed in. And also this gets back to just public non-public ballots because the public tracking online ryan tips. Oh i think it's how you pronounce his name. They had over seventy percent votes in the public ballots but then they come in at sixty one point six and sixty one point zero when it comes to all the ballots. So the half of the ballots. That aren't public. It's because you're ashamed or scared or afraid of the backlash that comes if you were to disclose who you actually voted for in the process. So number one make every ballot. Public have accountability for one time in your life writers association. Be willing to put your name on something that you're actually voting for and not hide in the bushes or hiding in the weeds and throw a paper airplane up in over saying. Here's my vote list. I don't know wasn't me. He got just drives me absolutely bananas. How this entire voting process works because curt schilling no doubt about it. Hall of famer barry bonds no doubt about it hall of famer roger clements. No doubt about it hall of famer are they. Good guys i don't think so. Probably not did they do something maybe to gain a performance advantage. Yeah maybe but again. It's never been proven in bonds this case so that's just your goodwill and intuition telling you that did It's just so frustrating and embarrassing and this is why baseball is in gaining in popularity like basketball or football because things like this just put a huge stain on the sport and it frustrates fans like myself. Who clearly know what should be happening but getting out of those stop three getting off of my rant there again comments questions on that conversation you want to discuss it. Further hit us up in the comments. I'm willing to read. I'm willing to discuss. I wanna talk about it with you guys. But a few other storylines. They came out here as well. Scott rowland continues to gain ground continues to have menem towards being enshrined eight time gold glove winner. Seven time all star. He was selected on just about fifty three percent of the ballots up from thirty five percent a year ago. He's benefiting of course from everybody getting in from two thousand fourteen to twenty twenty now the lesser names more votes. That scott rolen. We'll get an it'll be fascinating to see if he can jump all the way once again. Another twenty percents. Or if it'll take probably two more years to get scott rolling into the hall but the other big gainers as well todd. Helton went from twenty nine point two to forty four point nine billy wagner jumped from thirty one point seven to forty six point four gary sheffield went up from thirty to forty andrew. Jones went up from nineteen to just about thirty four so those guys continue to gain ground continue to have positive momentum. It'll be fascinating to see if they can continue that trajectory and it certainly looks like four or five of those guys could get in if this continues. I'm not sure you know. All of them are hall of fame worthy but if they get in and bonds clemens and chilling do not. That's just once again. Another reason why this is so embarrassing to the sport a baseball so nobody voted in here and twenty twenty one but there will be a ceremony that will enshrine the twenty twenty class. due to the coronavirus pandemic. there was not an a ceremony last year. So they will be celebrated this year but i also wanted to discuss the twenty twenty two ballot here briefly before we head out to Let you guys know who will be coming on next year if there will be any first time ballot or what we think will play out so the biggest name added to the list. Is alex rodriguez once again. He's performance enhancing drugs drug tests all that good stuff. So if bonds and clemens aren't in a rod certainly won't be in even though he's clearly all of fame caliber player six hundred ninety six home runs two thousand eighty six. Rbi's fourteen time all star three time mvp but you know again. The morality police. Well we'll keep him out and say hey he's not a good dude so he's not allowed to be in the hall of fame next up. Have david ortiz. Five hundred and forty one home runs ten time all star pit four fifty five and fourteen world series games. Do i think he is a first ballot hall of famer. Do i think he is a of famer absolutely. So it'll be interesting to see kind of where he fits in in your one move in next year and then it gets interesting right. Then you get to kind of that level where you know guys won't be first ballot guys but certainly can have consideration moving forward mark texeira Yes four hundred. Nine home runs. Five gold gloves. You then have jimmy rollins former. Mvp four gold gloves. Three time all star. Four hundred and seventy stolen bases. Jake peavy. Carl crawford coco crisp justin moore. No and joe nathan will be the names being added to the list so a rod should be a first ballot hall of famer but he won't be david. Ortiz will be on the bubble. And then i think mark to share and jimmy rollins will certainly be fascinating conversations. That won't happen first year but similar to scott rolen. I think as we start to look further into their careers. Years and years on the ballot. I certainly think that they could have a case in an argument because jimmy rollins. I didn't think he was all a famer. And then you look at some statistics. And he's one of one or one of two shortstops to ever accomplish certain feats when it comes to statistics but man just wrapping things up here. It's just a shame. Honestly like i said schilling not a good dude. I one hundred percent agree with that. But i'm not voting on you as a person to get into all the fame voting on you as a player and then with the era the fact that the commissioner is in the hall of fame but none of the players are is just a black stain on everything regarding cooperstown. So please do the right thing next year. Be w a police figure it out. Sir allow more younger voters and the people who didn't submit a ballot or did that was blank. Get them outta here. Remove them from the process. That's just the biggest stain and biggest embarrassment to this entire thing. But that'll wrap things up here for the first segments of the baseball podcast brought to you by the gsm. See podcast network. I'm your host kevin mahalick. We'll step aside right now for word from one of our sponsors one of our shows but when we come back we're talking philadelphia phillies and jt. Real mutoko finally. I get to discuss my flight and fills in some detail here so stick around everyone. We'll be right back. 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I'll read it here on the show. We'll talk about. it will have a fan interaction segment. I think that would be a lot of fun as i don't wanna be yelling at you guys here all the time moving forward but here we are in segment number. Two in like i mentioned finally able to discuss those philadelphia phillies. They have joined the party. This off season and now this has not yet beneficial by the team here but sources say the phillies catcher. Jt real mutoko are in agreement on a five year. One hundred fifteen point five million dollar contract and i emphasize that point five because that point one per year is what makes it. The highest average annual value in the history of major league baseball catcher's position rea- mutel had just beaten out joe mauer's contractor his extension that he signed with the minnesota twins back in twenty ten. There was an eight year. One hundred eighty four million dollar extension which gave at twenty three million dollars a year. And of course it was always. Jt's goal as the off season had started to eclipse that mark on average annual value. Second on the was buster posey. Who signed a nine year. One hundred and sixty seven million dollar extension with the giants back in two thousand thirteen and now both of these contracts being extensions with their current organizations this makes jt rio mutoko the first free agent signing to reach more than one hundred million dollars for the catcher's position but this was such an interesting negotiation to follow a phillies fan. This back and forth has been going on for just over a calendar year. Now until this point. I mean if we rewind back to last offseason real mute so in the final year of arbitration went all the way to the courts against the phillies. But it was always communicated this is strictly business no ill-will we don't hate you you don't hate us. He's just trying to set a standard for the catcher's position moving forward and ultimately the arbitrator ruled in favor of the phillies. Who awarded him a ten million dollar contract when jt had requested twelve point. Four but again you know. The communication apparently was honest. Because here we are year. Later and jt is back with the phillies. But this offseason. I got to give credit to the philadelphia organization and now former general manager matt clinton who was in the position of power last year. When jt was looking for an extension there were talks. That jt was looking at. You know something right around two hundred million dollars. One hundred and eighty million kind of seven years to ten had been floated around six and one eighty one. Seventy five certainly been discussed and clinton had the wherewithal to look into the future and forecast that real mute does market was never going to materialize at that level and throw in the corona virus pandemic. You certainly get another curve. Ball or another variable that both parties had not anticipated and his market just really did not materialize outside of philadelphia and once the mets went the route of trading berlin door signing mccain behind the dish. Then you went to toronto who focus their efforts on george springer and it really left the phillies as that big market player. Who is willing to give the years that jt was looking for. I mean i do not doubt that he could have gotten one year or two years and sixty million or thirty million per year but this guy is certainly looking for stability in terms of his career and basically calling a place home and having the length of the deal as well as the or the average annual value philadelphia was the only place that he was gonna find that so in the past week to two weeks it really just seemed like it was a matter of coming to that specific dollar amounts. We had seen rumors out there that just over one hundred million dollars had been offered. You know they were right at one ten. And of course if you're going to sign jt and you're at one ten the fact that you went to one fifteen five adding an extra one point one. A year really is not a huge deal. If they expect fans to return they expect revenue to get to pre pandemic levels know twenty three point one a year for the best catcher in baseball. Certainly feels like a nice deal for both parties. I mean the phillies didn't overpay. Ideally if you're the phillies you would have liked a four year commitment. Real mutoko was looking for a six year commitment so again good business on both sides met in the middle for five years. Give you one hundred thousand over what you're asking prices and you've got five one fifteen point five. Which was the agreement they came to. But you know looking into real mutsuo since twenty eighteen. He's number one in war or wins above replacement number one in rbi. I in stolen bases second in. Slugging percentage second and third in home runs so from the offensive perspective. Real mutoko certainly one of the top hitting catchers and defensively he has saved eleven runs according to s. Which would rank fourth among catchers over that same time frame so the guys at top one or two offensive catcher year in and year out. He's a top three or four defensive catcher year in and year out and his framing metrics continue to be positive he continues to improve defensively as well as managing the pitching staff. Because that's one of the most important components that kind of goes overlooked. Just a general fan's perspective is that these guys are calling the game. These guys are managing the pitching staff. These guys are setting up hitters in specific ways. They're looking at scouting reports. they're looking at tendencies. They're looking at weaknesses. Basically they are the quarterback of the baseball team. Everybody looks at down and distance and football zone. Man what are we. What are we looking at. Runs passes rpo. Well that's the catching position knowing tendencies. How often does he swing in this. Count what types of pitches is he looking for in this count. does he. A high ball hitter low ball hitter and utilize that strength to your pitching staff and to have guys like zack. Wheeler air nola zach. Eflin entering their prime hub. This is big to continue that. Come rotary in that partnership here moving forward into the future and of course we don't have to get into bryce harper screaming sign. Jt after he's hitting home runs. During the pandemic we had the pandemic crew ph at the beginning of that one. That was outside the stadium Yelling signed jt. archie bradley. Who had recently signed was tweeting out photos from stepbrothers with him in. Jt and sign jt and all the fans wanna jt back so you know this move doesn't make the phillies better per se than it did. A year ago it just puts them back on that same wavelength on that same level and this was a team once again that if it didn't have the worst bullpen in the history of baseball may have won a few games. I mean you look at teams that had a lead in seventh eighth or ninth inning. The phillies were right up there with the dodgers right up there with the braves the best teams in all of baseball so this now puts them back into the conversation back into consideration. If certain things go certain ways that they could get a couple of bounces guy stay healthy. They get bounced back years or improvement years from guys They could potentially be in consideration for a wildcard i. I'm writing off the division to the braves once again until somebody knocks them off. The mets of course have gotten a heck of a lot better the nationals will look to bounce back with their starting pitching staying healthy adding some pieces offensively as well so a very competitive division and then you have the marlins who somehow made the playoffs in the short season by finishing just over five hundred it was fascinating to watch them. Continue to compete and improve. So where does this leave. The phillies in regards to the salary. Cap is what i call it. But that's taboo in the baseball world. So we'll call it the luxury tax instead here and all things considered arbitration signings this that and the third the phillies are right about one. Hundred and eighty million dollars committed for twenty twenty one and the luxury tax is said at just about two hundred and ten million dollars so they still have thirty million dollars to spend before they get charged. Twenty cents on the dollar for going over and even if they do go over. I mentioned previously when talking about the yankees that nobody knows if the luxury tax is going to be a thing during the next. Cba or collective bargaining agreement players. Hate it because the teams do look at it as a salary cap and even if they have the money they don't wanna pay the interest on every dollar so they stay under that or try to get under that to reset the time clock when they could afford it. So that'll be a fascinating story line to watch but either way the phillies have about thirty million dollars to continue to try to improve their ballclub and once. Jt signed the rumors here in philadelphia. Was that they have now turned their attention to the shortstop position was their next hole or next need to fill with. Dd gregorious being a free agent. As well and there were a handful of names. They went off the board. This week is well. We're going to discuss all of them here in the next segment but there were three key free agent shortstops who are signed none of them named gregorious and none of them got over a one year contract. And this is not by coincidence or this is not by chance. And there's also a reason that dd has put his market at the two year longevity segment and that is due to the superstar class that is the free agent shortstop class of twenty twenty two so next summer the likes of avi air bias hit the market carlos correa hits the market trevor story hits the market cory seager hits the market and if they don't reach an extension which i believe they will but francisco lynn door could hit the open market. And if your dd that certainly puts you all the way down as the sixth best shortstop as opposed to maybe this off season you were third or fourth depending on your your needs or wants moving forward. So that's why the phillies. As long as pretty much. Every other team is really only looking for one year commitment out of that shortstop spot and as a phillies fan. I would love to get back last year. He signed from one year and fourteen million dollars. He was very good for them. Offensively left a little bit to be desired on the defensive side and with the ground ball pitching staff of nola f lynn and wheeler who i think were second and third or in ground ball percentage in regards to starting rotations. They're looking for the best defense that they could possibly get. So he's you know they're not going to commit two years to even though that's what he wants and if that doesn't happen again with the other top three guys signing they may chance for their attention to the second base position and they could potentially move genes segarra back to shortstop or you have scott kingery who played shortstop two summers ago and improved every day. Got better and better by the month. I mean he's not your stereotypical or homegrown shortstop but certainly could get the job done. They also have bryson stott a former first round pick who should be climbing up the rankings due to be in a college prospect. Of course he didn't get any reps last year because the minor leagues were shut down but you know he could be on the fast track to the big leagues in a year or two or the phillies have a ton of money coming off the books starting next year could look to sign one of these young guys good look to signed by says or career story and plug them into the middle of this lineup as well so that's where their energy is going to be placed here over the next couple of days. Finding out where they're going in the middle infield second base could go jonathan vr. Jonathan shoop colton has been rumored to be of interest to the phillies at that position. So that is certainly the next domino that we see falling here locally in philly but beyond that they still need depth on the pitching side of things. I mean. you're looking at those top. Three in the rotation spencer howard pencils in a your number four and that leaves vince velazquez. Still as your number five and as a phillies fan. I do not wanna watch vince. Velazquez pitch thirty times this year. I just can't do that experiment anymore. The guy takes forever in between pitches. Never seems to find the strike zone and needs to be transitioned to the bullpen where he can change his attitude a bit more an attack hitters with his quality stuff. But there's a lot of bargain still out there potentially in the starting market. I mean you got james. Paxton tajon walker. There's a ton of arms that are still available cole. Hamels from the left side. Of course he was injured last year in atlanta but last year there was talk of the phillies bringing him in and the first four guys. I talked about our from the right side. So that's why the names of like paxton hamels are being mentioned. They had interest in j a happ before he signed earlier. This off season in minnesota so pitching and shortstop position potentially centerfield could be an option. Unless they're going with the combination of atom easily in roman quinn. Once again out there mickey mony act potentially in the mix got his major league debut under his belt in twenty twenty but move still to be made here in philadelphia if they want to be considered in the running for the national league east. Because i think this move just takes them from possibly the worst team in the division to battling for third or fourth and with no expanded playoffs. You gotta at least finish second to find postseason baseball. And the fact that it'll be ten years this summer in philadelphia is certainly driving the locals crazy but a great move to bring back. Jt real mute so for both the team as well as the player rea- mutoko gets what he wants sets the record for a veep. The phillies are able to spread out his salary. Defer a little bit of money to save themselves here in twenty twenty one. And i liked the five years again for both parties here. But that'll do it for segment number. Two of the gsm see baseball. Podcast brought to you by the mc podcast network. I'm your host. Kevin mahalick step aside one more time here for word from one of our sponsors and assist or shell but when we come back we'll get you guys updated on all the other signings across major league baseball. Things are starting to get busy here as we're under a month from spring training so stick around. We're going to talk about it all. We'll be right back. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts. Now listen close and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. 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The top three guys went off the board or top three or four depending on who. You're talking to with the first one. Being andrew simits. The four time gold glove award winning shortstop signed a one year ten and a half million dollar deal with the minnesota twins and i put his market at candidate eight to ten million dollar range so i believe he got a little bit more than i would have been willing to pay. And that's probably the reason why he did not end up in philadelphia but the twins they wanted to improve their infield defense making addition there to help out the pitching staff. And there's nobody better defensively at the position than angleton simmons right now he will be pencilled in to the shortstop position which then will push polanco. Hey politico over to second base. And some of the metrics and defensive analytics have said that polanco has lost a step and ultimately a transition to second base will fit him better moving forward and this also moves lewis a rare as into the ultimate utility role. And if probably puts an end to the marwin gonzalez era there in minnesota. So minnesota's infield now. This is the most expensive infield that they've ever had in minnesota. You got josh donaldson over there. At third base simmons now at shortstop politico at second base. In of course. Miguel said nope playing first base for them and combined they will make forty six point. Eight million dollars this upcoming season so the twins basically looking at everybody else in the division particularly the chicago white sox and they're looking at those to be in the top tier guys because the indians Losing for endure trading carrasco basically opened up the opportunity for that wildcard or the top of the division and simmons there for a year. We'll certainly improve that defense. So if you're a starting pitcher still on the market and minnesota's potentially a landing spot for you that defense behind you certainly made that That position a little bit more appealing there in minnesota so simmons to the twins for one year ten and a half million next on the list at the shortstop spa simeon. Marcus simeon agreed with the toronto blue jays who continue to stay active. He signed a one year. Eighteen million dollar contract and honestly this was above and beyond right had his market as well. I was thinking fourteen fifteen sixteen million for simeone here but getting eighteen from toronto. Certainly a good deal for the player. Moving forward to an ad. Simeon to the list of george springer kirby yates robbie ray tyler chat would and toronto has certainly been very very busy this off season. So it'll be fascinating to see how simeon bounces back here. Because he did struggle in twenty twenty he also had a rib injury during that season he hit just two twenty three with seven home runs for them but he had a career year in twenty nineteen where he finished. Third an mvp voting in the american league. He had a two eighty five average. Thirty three home runs ninety. Two rb is certainly one of the best defensive shortstops simmons more known for his defense minnesota leaves a little bit to be desired. Offensively as to where simeon is kind of a more row. Well rounded shortstop. He's above average defensively if he hits like he did in two thousand and nineteen certainly will be above average offensively and The blue jays are hoping that he can come in and get back to those ranks in two thousand nineteen so he had a fantastic run their sixteen seventeen eighteen nineteen and a one year deal in. Toronto is kind of a high risk high reward. Deal with the amount of money. They're paying him but they won't be tied to him long term which just a one year agreement so i like the addition. The blue jays put him into the infield along with boba. Shit vlad guerrero junior and you got yourself a pretty solid defense and offensive. Infield up there across the boarder or maybe in buffalo once again and to be determined on where the blue jays they're ultimately going to end up playing their games here in twenty twenty one but toronto stay active trying to fill holes and compete with the yankees who had recently made a couple of moos the third shortstop to go off the list. When i said three out of four gregorious still available. Apparently his market is down to the reds and phillies. He's looking for a two year deal. Because freddie galvez he signed a one year contract worth one point. Five million dollar deals with the baltimore orioles galveston of course had been in philadelphia for quite some years. The past couple of seasons was with the cincinnati reds and twenty twenty. He hit two twenty with seven home runs and sixteen rbis more known for his defense than his offense. But you know. Freddie can have a month or two where he gets hot runs into a couple of fast balls pop. Some out of the park but galvez is expected to take over from jose iglesias at the shortstop position iglesias was traded earlier in december to the l. a. Angels so they had an eat at the shortstop position and based on where baltimore is in there rebuild where they are in regards to their economic value in two free agents. Sleep galvez for one. Year and under two million dollars is certainly worthy of being a big league player. He can be a professional in that locker room in that clubhouse helping the young guys continue along and you know if he hits more on his career average of forty seven. I think baltimore is going to be pleasantly surprised again. I don't think you're going to get what you got out of him. And twenty nineteen where he hit. Twenty three home runs and had seventy r b is but i certainly don't think he's going to be down around two twenty here as well so baltimore. County goes right in between there and they got themselves a professional shortstop moving forward. The only fascinating deal is with all these. One year deals at the shortstop position. Like i mentioned in the previous segments with heavier bias. Carlos correa trevor story cory seager all become free agents next year. You can add simeon simons freddy garcia to that list as well and you get an extremely deep shortstop class next off season. So it'll be fascinating to see how all of those guys pan out and how the off season plays out with a potential New collective bargaining agreement happening. And it'll just be fascinating to kind of keep an eye on here moving forward. There were a few other signings. We had the detroit tigers. They signed catcher wilson ramos to a one year. Two million dollar deal there in detroit That is still pending physical. Rama's played forty five games for the mets in two thousand and twenty. He hit two thirty nine with five home. Runs and fifteen rbis and then in two thousand nineteen. He hit two eighty eight with fourteen homers. Seventy three and ramos has always been known for his offense more than his defense. He's been two time all star in his career but again he's a professional hitter. Professional at bats and for the tigers in the middle of a rebuild stage and trying to similarly to robbie grossman who they signed earlier in the off season. Basically show some of these kids what it means to be a professional what it means to go about your business you bring in a guy. Spend the all star game. He hit three. Oh seven with twenty. Two home runs for the nationals. In years past. I do like the addition once again short-term minimal money. It'll be nice for the tigers to add some offense to that team here. Moving forward so nice edition for the tiger. Signing catcher wilson ramos. Next on the list of signings. We have brad haiyt. The left handed relief. Pitcher gets ten and a half million dollars from the nationals. On a one year deal however this contracts a little bit different than most because six and a half million dollars of it will be deferred to future payments without interest so he will just receive six and a half million dollars this year and then he'll get one and a half next january three and a half the year after that in one and a half the year after that so spacing out his payments. If for some reason he falls off and doesn't find a long-term agreement he'll still get paid for the next three years by the nationals. And of course there are some concerns for hand because his fastball velocity has dropped a little bit over two miles an hour over the past two seasons he averaged only ninety one point four last year he spoke about how it was a positive that he learned how to pitch while throwing that velocity but still working to get back up to where he was in years past and i mean he led the majors with sixteen saves and certainly a figured out how to get it done without blowing the ball past people anymore and for a guy who was having a one year. Ten million dollar option declined. He finds ten and a half out there on the market but once again that ten and a half will be paid over the course of three seasons and not just one moving forward. We also have the cleveland indians. They re signed second baseman cesar hernandez hernandez signed a one year. Five million dollar deal with the indians he was a gold glove winner and twenty twenty the first second baseman to win a gold glove for the indians in quite some time there so they were very impressed with his defense as well as his offense and hernandez for the longest time is just very steady as she goes on. You're not to get probably all star season but went in the first gold glove. Sense roberto alomar for the indians certainly was a positive for them. He's a big average guy doesn't walk a lot not a ton of power. He hit two eighty three last year during the shortened season but the ninety one field percentage with only four airs and t saved four point. Seven defensive runs above average certainly lended himself to get a one year deal back with cleveland and continue his career out there for the indian so the indians they acquired a handful of middle infielders in the lynn door. Deal but these guys are kind of on the cusp up and coming. And i do believe hernandez i will be able to continue in their development and help bring them along the last signing we have. Is thomas stella. The second baseman formerly of the oakland athletics as well as the los angeles angels looks like he is in agreement with the san francisco giants on a three year deal no word yet on the money involved with the contract but a nice signing for the giants he was very good for the angels last year as well as the as i finished the year hitting two eighty nine over the course of the season. Very good defensively as well. He was second in regards to strike outs only behind. Dj lemay hugh struck out only twelve times in one hundred ninety six at bats and this aligns exactly with what gabe kappler and the analytics movement is telling you out there in san francisco. Put the ball in play on base. Continue to make contact because obviously with the home. Run or strikeout swing. That's been overtaken major league baseball. This'll be a nice change of pace out there in san francisco so they're very happy with this agreement i mean before the angels the braves cubs That's where stella wasn't i think san francisco fans listening to this are going to enjoy. Tommy la- stella that does it for the signings but there was one trade as well this week and it was a little bit fascinating because it was between the hated rivals. Boston red sox in the new york yankees the yankees shipped out right handed relief pitcher adema lovie no to the red sox for cash and a player to be named later. The yankees also sent over a prospect who was ranked number twenty four in their minor league system. Right handed pitcher frank german. Who will be sent that way. The connection there to boston is that higham bloom. The new general manager was a big fan of her maine's when he was with coming out of the draft he went in the fourth round of the yankees but apparently tampa bay at that time was very high on them so high on bloom essentially gets his guy a few years later for the red sox said this was the first trade between these two teams since two thousand fourteen and from a yankees perspective. It was certainly a salary dump based on what we talked about. He he got a nine million dollar salary this year. Vino the books which will allow them to kind of engage. Talks with brett gardner potentially some other relief pitching options. Jeremy jeffers alex colom darren. O'day still out there on the market. Probably won't be receiving a nine million dollar price tag that came with o. Davino and from boston's perspective. They get a nice salad relief pitcher as well as a prospect who general manager was a big fan of for the past couple of years so a good deal for both teams. This allows the yankees to make some additional moves and this improves boston's roster both today as well as potentially down the road if fraker main pans out like they believe he will so Inactive week this week and major league baseball with a run on shortstop and you know now it's basically up to the big fish to figure out where they're ultimately going to end up and all eyes right now are currently on trevor bauer in which direction he could head in. So we'll step aside here now one last time for a word from one of our sponsors and a word from our sister shows but when we come back i'll get you guys up to date on all the latest news notes rumors everything coming out of major league baseball as spring. Training is coming down the pike hair so things are starting to heat. Up teams are starting to make moves and it's becoming a lot more fun to discuss with you guys but that'll do it for segment number three. I'm your host kevin. Mahalick will be right back. Want to know the latest and soccer. That listened to the golden state media concept soccer podcasts. Mls is the world cup. The premier league we've got you covered the latest update hottest matches ed news on the league's top players. It's the golden state media concept soccer. Podcasts listen thanks again for listening and welcome back to the fourth and final segment of the gsm. See baseball podcast brought to you. By the mc podcast network. I'm your host kevin mahalick. Let's get you guys up to date on the news notes rumors going on across major league baseball well since i recorded segment number three here just moments ago and i mentioned three relief pitchers who the yankees could be interested in. They made me look extremely smart by coming to an agreement with darren. Oh day i talked about him being an option now that they moved on from ota vino. Well it's come out here and past couple of minutes that an agreement is pending a physical and it looks like darren. O'day the right handed sidearm. Relief pitcher will be joining the new york yankees. So of course the yankees move on from v now to clear some cap space and they're gonna fill that hole the very next day by adding darren o'day to the bullpen corpse. Here moving forward so fascinating. How things are happening by the minute out here. And we're going to keep you guys up to date on everything going on across major league baseball so Outside of players rumors notes Let's touch on a recent proposal. Major league baseball had sent over to the players association regarding the two thousand twenty one season and some rules that have yet to be determined. Well apparently the players association has rejected a proposal that would have installed the universal d. h. into the national league in exchange for an expanded post-season and additional money. So what does this exactly mean. Why would the players turned down the d. h. For the expanded postseason. Well because one the league knows that they're essentially going to win this agreement because basically the fact that adding fifteen dha positions too again half the league and as what considered a quote unquote low skill position according to owners general managers because again no defense involve just offensive. Those fifteen new starting jobs won't necessarily translate into kind of big spending or ram bit spending across the national league especially in this offseason when people are still counting pennies and dealing with the economic fallout of the corona virus. So this is kinda fascinating where the players are basically saying. Yeah that's not a fair trade because the amount of money that the league is going to make with an expanded postseason and there were reports that major league baseball was close to selling its broadcasting rights to additional playoff rounds to espn. This deal is slated to begin in twenty twenty two. Which again kind of makes you think that in this new. Cba this is certainly something that mlb is going to want in. Not waver on but the players are no you're gonna make a ton more money than us here in twenty twenty one. And when i say us i mean literally fifteen individuals so you as a league and all thirty two teams are gonna get richer and we're only gonna get about fifteen people to get paid. Maybe a little bit more than they would so the players association shut that down pretty quickly and if they can't come to an agreement they will go back to the original. Cba so there won't be expanded playoffs. The d. h. Only being the american league and it'll be kind of fascinating to go back to that with four playoff teams on each side and no longer five only one wildcard team which has a phillies fan. I would like to see the expanded post-season due to what's going on in atlanta new york washington philadelphia. Miami certainly going to be tough to be that only one squad who gets in and even in the nfl east. I mean if you're the braves mets and nationals only two of those teams maximum would be able to get into the post season so it certainly makes things a bit more interesting. So conversation in negotiations continue to be a little contentious between both sides. Nobody really willing to give in order to get. Both sides still remained selfish in their requests. And it's just going to set up a a fascinating negotiation and discussion at the end of this regular season when the ten year. Cba runs out from their two thousand and eleven terms in discussions but no d. h. As of now in the national league no expanded playoffs and personally. I don't think those things will be implemented by the time the year starts so i think we're going to go back to the old school rules here in major league baseball for this summer but now to the news and notes. Some rumors happening out there. I guy i mentioned it. We'll start with trevor bauer. Apparently recent reports have now come out that the new york mets are quote favorites for whatever. Bauer there's been some conversation around that. There is a deal north of thirty million dollars per year. Now of course garrett. Cole holds the league record for average annual value for a pitcher at thirty six million dollars a year and bauer was looking to be competitive with that style of market. So i do not believe he'll exceed garrett cole but him getting at least thirty million dollars is certainly a fascinating development here over the course of at least four seasons and i mean just pencilling in bauer into that mets rotation jacob degrom carlos carrasco strom in there as well and potentially thor noah syndergaard if he comes back off and injury in that rotation is absolutely loaded. Adlon door to that offense in man. The new york. Mets are certainly going to be a team to mess with in the national league east because the tampa bay. Excuse me the toronto blue jays seemed to be out on the hour. Sweepstakes which really leaves the mets and then the quote unquote mystery team. That staying out there and we're going to hear that a couple of times here over the next ten minutes but the mystery team i would pencil in as the la angels as well as the l. a. dodgers having conversations with bauer. Both of those teams are looking for more of a short term style of contract. Maybe two to three seasons. And that's where it certainly would make the mets the favorite if they are willing to expand and give that fourth year still at thirty plus million dollars but with ria mutoko sign spring signed. Bauer remains counted. That loan big fish still available out there to potentially be added here in the next couple of weeks before pitchers and catchers are expected to report so man the mets just continue to be in on everybody continue to be spending money them in toronto have gone the opposite direction of most teams in regards to spending money and trying to improve their ball clubs but that rotation degrom bauer stroman. Goodness gracious throwing carrasco is a number four. And that's gonna be a tough out for anybody in the postseason so keep an eye out on that for trevor. Bauer here in the next couple of days potentially agreeing with the mets. It'll be fascinating development if it does happen the next Trade rumor we have here. Is the chicago cups. Apparently the cubs have slowed down the kris bryant trade market. They've informed kris bryant that he will be returning to the cubs. Unless they get a quote sweetheart end quote type of deal and yes there are still conversations happening. People have discussed the new york mets being involved the blue jays being involved once again because kris bryant does have a price tag of just over nineteen million dollars coming with him here this off season. The atlanta braves said ben rumored to be in contact earlier the washington nationals as well but it certainly seems like the cubs have kinda soured on the idea of just shipping out bryant and return to get prospects similar to the u. Darvish deal where people were trying to figure out what the heck they were doing in san diego so i think kind of that push back in that feedback on the market and the public. I lended them to be a bit more hesitant on. Just ship and chris bryan outta town even though he'll be a free agent this next offseason on it certainly doesn't look like he will be returning to chicago but it could. It could mean that he could be a mid year trade acquisition. I mean again last year. Brian struggled hitting just over two hundred. But he's a former national league. Mvp and if he starts out their season march april may have an himself a good summer hitting back closer to eighty driving the ball. Then the cubs may get that sweetheart offer from the teams out there but also it only be a half a year commitment for the receiving team. So i don't know if they're going to go above and beyond giving those prospects when there's no guarantee that bryant would resign with whichever club trades for him so. I think that the asking price will go down a little maybe in quantity but not as quite much in quality so you could get two or three prospects that are better prospects as opposed to four or five who are more mid to lower term here if you're the cubs in you're asking price around kris bryant another trade rumors coming out of the nfl. Central josh hader left handed relief pitcher for the milwaukee brewers arguably the best relief pitcher in baseball. If not top five certainly he continues to still be available but there is a quote overwhelming and quote asking price on what they're asking for for hater and this has driven off some potential suitors snout. There were rumors that the yankees could be involved. But this was prior to the darren o'day citing that took place here on the twenty seventh and i don't think that the yankees are gonna want to give up three four. Maybe five prospects in order to bring josh hader to town but the appeal with hader as opposed to bryant is that hater is under contract for two additional seasons at a very reasonable price. I believe he's right around six million dollars this year upwards to ten here moving in the future but again there's a bit more stability in a bit more longevity that will come with trading for josh hader then would come for kris bryant only potentially being in your ball club for a summer so hater himself. I think he's the biggest piece still left out there when it comes to the relief market but in regards to just pay capital or money and instead of prospects. That's where things certainly get complicated with hater but again the brewers are still listening and hater can be had for the right price. The brewers are are also rumored to be interested in outfielder eddie rosario. They're looking to upgrade their outfield position. Rosario was cut loose by the twins in a cost. Cutting measure for minnesota. He's a nice. Little leftfielder switch hitter has some pop ben. An all star in the past. And milwaukee is looking to bring in some offense as look into canada retool and rebuild the roster that could certainly be a nice addition for milwaukee but you know other teams circling the wagon out there. We heard the giants interested in rosario so there is a market for him and it'll be fascinating to which point that ultimately drives his price tag here moving forward. The next rumor colton wong the second baseman. Formerly of the saint louis cardinals. His market is starting to heat up and it is kind of fascinating. Now you can see the tears of free agents where the top guys okay. This is who everybody's involved with. How much are they going to get. Where are they going to go all of a sudden there's a run on shortstops. Simeon simons galvez d. Probably next to now. People are transitioning their focus over to the second base position because middle infielders. Typically you have a utility guy you can swing either way. So at the case of the phillies. They've transition now checking in on colton wrong because they can move scott kingery back to the shortstop position but the phillies aren't the only ones rumored to be interested. There are a ton of other teams checking in on wong of course. The cardinals aren't going to let him walk without having discussions. You have the detroit. Tigers having conversations. It's also rumored that the seattle mariners the tampa bay rays and then even the chicago cubs are interested in having votes and the cubs. Losing by as here moving forward would be looking at wong. As a potential two to three year replacement similarly with the phillies look and kind of short term but colton wanna professional infielder. He's been very good for saint louis. The last number of years at that second base spot certainly a professional hitter and a guy who knows how to win coming from a great organization. He is now kind of next on that tier where people are looking okay. Dvd or colton. Which way do we want to go here in our middle infield and ultimately can we make a decision so we could get some action on colton long hair by the end of the week or by the end of the weekend. Depending on when you're listening to this the last rumor we have out. There involves justin turner just in terms. It seems that a reunion with the la dodgers is becoming more and more imminent teams out there. There was talk that the blue jays could be interested but since they signed markelle simeon for eighteen million dollars. It certainly seems that twenty two twenty two million a year that turner is looking for is not going to be within the budget for the blue jays so you can cross them off the list and basically that leaves the dodgers involved. There's rumors that the brewers are in on justin turner and then there is that third quote unquote mystery team that we spoke about that. Nobody can identify but everybody knows out. There everybody's talking everybody. We're hearing word of a third team a third team and you know none of these beat writers day-to-day guys have been able to figure out which one but again. The brewers don't have a ton of money as well as turner has made it known that he wants to play for a world series contender so the l. a. Dodgers would certainly fit that mold over. The milwaukee brewers. We don't know who the mystery team is. And where they stand in the standings or their goals this year so if turner's probably willing to take i dunno sixteen eighteen twenty million as opposed to that twenty two twenty four twenty six that he's ultimately looking for i believe turner returning to the dodgers two years thirty nine. Thirty eight million dollars is ultimately going to be the best situation for both parties there so turner can keep chasing his ring at the end of his career. The dodgers have the money to spend short term. So if they're looking at a two year packed. I think ultimately that one does get done out there in la but That's really it on the rumor mill. Of course there are still a ton of free agents available a ton of relief pitchers available but things continued to develop slowly when it comes to the pitching market starter. Still out there and a ton of teams need starting pitching. 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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 792  Catcher Preview

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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 792 Catcher Preview

"Walker episodes over ninety two of the sleeper in the bust. It is Tuesday Wednesday march. Eleventh I'm your host falls for joined by just our bleeding together justin. How are you bud surviving? I'm here to professional would just restart when I do that. It's like let's just go with people can make fun of me We will not be seeing each other this weekend. Unfortunately the the Rohner Rona virus has cancelled tout wars which is unfortunate Just probably the smart move because everything can be done online in the end you know. We all wanted to meet up. Hang out and this was the decision. I don't envy the board. The board of having to make this decision was very tough. Call because you know we all want to get together but it just. It just didn't really make sense so we're not seeing each other this weekend but are you still excited to do your tout wars and main event. Anyway 'cause I think you're gonna be doing them online. Yes yeah. I'm doing both online from the confines of the Mason Murder Mansion As people have coined my office. So hopefully I'll have some time between now and then to kind of clean up a little bit because I'm going to be a livestream so livestream both my main event which is Saturday at noon Eastern and then nl tout which is Nine am eastern which is six PM or six am Pacific which is gonNa be a bit. Brutal loon. Yeah Yeah so. There's no silver lining here The release of the show is tomorrow at midnight eastern Levin might time and it's all be able to stream the game all we can. I have your your stream up on Saturday afternoon for sure watching. You're watching your draft Justin Mason F. W. F. B. on twitter to get the links to those live streams and you've been doing a bunch of live streams drafts that they've been a lot of fun to hang out so y'all should definitely check that out talk draft can ask questions about strategy and whatnot and it's fun just kind of like. I kind of like observing a draft you know I was GonNa do one for the NFC on on twitter yesterday. And just I wasn't in it. I was just commenting it. But they had a little with the system so it didn't Actually get the pop off and it was kind of unfortunate. 'cause really want to see what this pitcher market's. GonNa go boy Jason Collapse just Dm Does with a copy of the Carlos CRESCO tweet about getting an MRI ruled out structural damage but there is mild inflammation. And it'd be shut down for a little bit and he said that boys go for twenty five this weekend in L. Touted Lake it the the pitcher market in it happens. You know this is not a completely unique year but the pitcher mark in is getting hammered right now and It's been it's been kind of brutal so we'll see how all of it goes. It's going to be interesting. But they were actually talk the other side of the battery and the catchers the backstops and so this will be one are shorter because there's just not a lot of depth to get into but let's start and get into because around a little bit of a hard out and go at the top here. This is the this is super five in these are the five that are kind of being crowned as the elite of the elite and there might be a little bit of tearing within this group. I mean I shouldn't even say might there is but I put all five of them together. You're paying a premium for catcher if you're if you're getting this even though real mood does. Danzon his own than they're Sanchez. And then the other three. Kinda group together putting them all in one group it's JT. Wroto at pick. Fifty Gary Sanchez at eighty-five Yazdani grown one. Oh Six Wilson Containers at one twenty four and Mitch garber 125. This is what the average drought position for the NFC online championships starting March second through March eleventh. That covers twenty five drafts. The link is always in the show notes and then you just have to adjust online and and the date so the top five. Let me ask first things. How often are you buying from this pool because it is expensive bowl of catcher? Not Very often and it's going to be a recurring theme for me during the PODCAST IS. I'm just not paying for catcher super often. Now I think one of the caveats is that in best ball or if beside the FCC cutline like when when I did my NBC cutline like Iran the ATC projections through it. Gto removes was a top twenty five player in that format. Yeah Yeah and so. I grabbed him in. Both Mike Hotline drafts this year And then you know and then followed it up with you. Know another three catchers later on So I'm I'm not opposed to taking real Muto Sanchez. Granddaughter contrasts at all I just I. It's GONNA CUT. It's gotta be at a discount. It's going to be a draft. They drop Not like avoiding avoiding taking a more expensive catcher on just wait. Did you leave? I guys off of that. I left my left. Mitch garber off of that. Okay okay. We'll get into that in a moment then continue Yeah so those the top four. I'm not like taking off my board or anything or or avoiding them but they need to come at some sort of discount from where they have been going for me to be willing to do it. And with pitching being pushed up Likely at the main event in in other drafts going on Until the start of season there's a chance of that happened so I could end up with one and I don't mind it because I do think you get a better You know better return on investment than kind of playing in the bottom pool or having to stream catcher throughout the season. But there's also guys like kind of low lower you know some vets or some bounce back guys or even some breakout guys from last year that I'm willing to just take the shot on as well. Yeah I really do. Think that We're going to see the dynamics of the market really change here. Pitching always gets pushed up late in the NFC like late and draft season so starting this weekend and on with the main events coming people go out and get their guys but then with all the injuries that we're talking about to some this catchers could get pushed down. What is your ideal but also realistic price. From a for Real Muto right is average fifty ranging from thirty eight to seventy one. I don't know if that's seventy one is you know he's had a bunch of sixties and seventies on or if that's an outlier on its own where he's really more in the say thirty eight to fifty five range but what. What do you realistically want to pay for Real? Muto that that you think you could get in in most drafts. I think after sixty Starting to get real interested And I'm in for Sanchez is probably after his. Adp Pick seventy-five seems pretty fair for the most part. So it's really about Ross or construction too. I mean it depends on how many guys how many guys have already taken how I feel about my speed situation. My pitching situation Whether or not an obviously who else is there at the time of the pick you know there are times at a round. Pick fifty where I go. I really don't love a lot of the options like nobody's standing outside. Nobody's dropped And so I'll really take a hard look at a real move till So I think it's yeah I think round pick sixty s where I'm really gonNA pull the trigger. But it hasn't happened in any other drafts other than Believe me to cut ones and I share your general thoughts on on the group here with regards to. I'm not seeking them out necessarily but I'm also not running from them particularly grondahl contracts but I also throw in garbage. So let's focus on garbage noticeably. Left him off when you were saying that you pay for the top four but a at the right price but not Garver. Why not? He had. That breakout year last year. Yes it was a amazing sample in amazing results in a small sample. But he's going to get more volume so even if the rates come down. I feel like there's going to be the counterbalance of getting a lot of a lot more volume this year. So why aren't on him? Well I'M GONNA push back a little bit on that because I don't know the volume is my question He only played in only had three hundred and fifty. Nine Plate appearances lasser. It was an amazing. Three hundred fifty nine played a pair. Sure for sure and I don't think anybody is expecting him to continue on the pace that he did My question is with the signing of Donaldson You know and Manning third base every night moving Sino over to first base Nelson Cruz D. H. How how much more volume do we really expect him to get a lot more? Because Jason Castro has gone and out. Sevilla isn't nearly as good. Yeah I don't know if end in on that and so I'm just I'm worried that we're GONNA see I need an explanation. I mean the press in the neck nasty but like Alex was much worse than Jayson. Castro particularly like Castro's defense was a big was a big deal there. That really helped him stay. Stay in the lineup regularly. So why wouldn't Garver get a more like sixty forty type? Share as opposed to anything like a fifty fifty. I really do think that the departure of Castro opens things up for Garver here. Do you have confidence in Avila? I don't have necessarily confident. I just don't know that they're gonNA. They'RE GONNA run garber out there five days a week. I just think it's I I think it it feels unlikely to me And the projection systems have him largely. I mean outside of ATC. Which is the number one projection system at least laugh at Stereo on that yes Outside of ATC all of the projections systems have him for less than four. Hundred Plate appearances. Sure but they're all going off of his history with just two years of three thirty five and three fifty nine and they don't really factor in something like the incumbent leaving and an opening that up. What death strokes does the shirts aren't fully done yet? Though like that like they have been. I don't think Dan's done his full like this is. This is everything I think he lets. The dust settle on spring training a bit and then Attacks it. I don't know I just I don't really see. I don't see how he doesn't get four hundred plate appearances lease sit forty more which is not crazy more but I think at least four hundred is what I'm saying For Garver and I hear you on the on the cruise thing and I know you love but the dude literally never stays healthy and Nelson. Cruz is forty and I cruise right and You know but let's be realistic knows health cruises age that either of them going down with open up even more playing time for Garver so I'm bending on at least another forty point appearances which will only occur only cancel so much of the the rate regression. I'm not saying that that's going to cover everything there but I guess that's a let's do this. Let's step back real quick. What's boiled out? What numbers are you expecting Garver runs? Rbi's on it with the with the batting average two or homers RBI? Sorry sorry sorry. Lured twenty two twenty. Three home runs. Maybe like sixty five. Rbi to gain fifty to sixty batting average. You're you're you're beating the project and so you like the projections better and I think in a comparison to what's Wilson contrary us who he is going right by that. That seems seems pretty similar. Control had twenty four sixty four and a two seventy two so it was a little bit better there Particularly with the average which I will give an average edged to control us. But if that's what you're projection is. There's the upside for more from garbage. Because what if what if what if the rates don't really go down a lot like they're going to go now. Three fifty seven is so twenty. Nine percent helmet a fly ball. I WANNA be clear here. The rates are coming down for Garvey's not GONNA hit homers at thirty one per three hundred fifty nine plate appearances clip. That was insane. But what if he is more twenty five seventy to sixty yeah? I just don't think I'm willing to pay the price and I mean I haven't paid the price on contracts either this year so a you know maybe I. I'm probably out on him as well but I think you're missing out but I'm plus catchers. Okay all right. Those are the top five guys again. Neither of US are fully out on them. It's really kind of playing it as the draft As the draft comes to us on that before we begin the other group I will say you. Kinda hinted what your what your strategy might be. But what is what is your general strategy. You could end up with the top guy but what? What do you usually go in looking to do? It catchers at full pond. Take you know. Take two guys late. Two to one dog is of. It's an auction Mid Pont when does your idea and then you kind of adjust from there. When you start at well I guess we should probably talk about format because format obviously dictates. Absolute what my strategy. So obviously we're mostly talking about to catcher leagues. I know a lot of people play one catcher leaks in one casualty. Got Either one a stud or I'm just GonNa wait especially if I'm like ten or twelve teen cat. One catcher league like there's no if you don't get real muto or Sanchez an throw gear grand all TAT mixed Garver. Yeah for you like. There's no reason to like pop earlier on guy like Sal Perez or will Smith. Just just wait until you are. You know it's pretty much your last position until it's actually agree with that because the emergence of the C. Two's last year the flood of C. Twos that came into the League catcher. Twos that would now. You know you can pick from a bunch. You're going to be on the wire. There's a huge GLOB. We talk about the pitching gloves. And there's a catching glove for sure. There's actually a couple of them so I totally get that for a ten twelve team one catcher league either go big or just sit tight and someone will be there for you so what about to Catcher League. Let's start shallow and then we'll get into the depth into catcher leagues. I tend to like to not completely punt both But I'm willing to do it. So it largely depends on what the pricing is and we see catchers going runs very similar to The way we see closures go. Typically we see you know kind of like you said there's these globs and so once one or two people grab from that. Glob then other people tend to follow suit to not be left out that tier I re- really for me. It's a it's a thing where I I kind of unless there's someone that really stands out to me and there's very few people this year that really do standouts me. I'm pretty much just waiting till I get to appoint Drago and not. There's nobody here. I really liked that much. I let's see what catcher available And Yeah no I totally get that. And let's Super deep like fifteen plus team mixed and Alemanno only how are you approaching it now? An NL only or ALII. I'm much more likely to not wait all pay pun at all. Yeah I tend to want guys that One I know we're GONNA have kind of solid good playing time And I do not want the one dollar catchers like I'm rarely of the guy that gets to one dollar catchers last year tout. I think I paid for a buster Posey and someone else. Obviously Posey didn't work out well but the negative value you get from one dollar catchers in Mono Leagues is not good so no I actually aggressively bad so people that kind of subscribe to the Puck Catcher kind of theory that they tend to the upper tier ones. This is where I'll get. You know like a Real Muto. A contrary s You know one of those guys is in N. L. Tout because there's so many guys that go I'm just going to get to one dollar catcher as and figure it out That it ends up kind of suppressing the price of the top tier guys. No I totally get that and I share pretty much your same your same. Take across the board here where I don't really want to punt in the Deeper Leagues Esp- especially but even fifteen team mixed I don't necessarily want it to be To back and guys I think. We've referenced this past couple of years so I'll do it again. The Amazing Baseball forecaster. They got the great profiles. And you should enjoy those. But there's a lot of amazing information in the front of the book in the form of different essays including one about Dollar value of of each position and the catchers worthless like not only worthless. They kill you minus like minus ten dollars each on average like on every so for some of you that are like oh. I know I hit this one lesser. Okay cool but that you found such a major outlier there so I don't WanNa be punting And so yeah I share your opinion on virtually all with regards to strategy there. So let's get into the next group and talk about still good but not elite and we're generally passing on these guys as a group but we still need to talk about them for those of our listeners. Who aren't passing Salvador Perez. And he's going and pick one fifty six will smith at one sixty Wilson Ramos at one seventy four and then Omar Narvaez one ninety eight. I mean these are another. I really was getting a lot of shares of will Smith. Early draft season I've tempered that a little bit for something dude. It due to him not necessarily to him just the the price and not wanting to pay the price on a catcher early. These guys are going. A Cell Peres is pretty trendy kind of name in the Catcher Pool Really. It's he's been he's been really advancing his price. Yeah and I mean that that comes a lot from a lot of guys in the industry that are really buying in on the bounceback and I. I think he's GonNa be good yes. I don't blame him. I just don't know that he will get the volume that were used to seeing from him. It's it's a new new jer- coming off of host. Yeah he's coming off of a you know bad injury. What they county counterpoint. Like these idiot. Yeah No. He'll just he'll just push them to the hill I don't disagree with that necessarily And I just I wonder if they'll work them back. Maybe a little bit slower at least it catcher. I mean they obviously have room to you know throw at first or if they want to teach him in throw. Solaire out into the outfield. They can do that so he should be able to get back to. Around five hundred plate appearances projections are all over the place with him I tend to not be as high as the market and so I haven't gotten any shares but it doesn't mean I haven't been you know thinking about pulling the trigger insert drafts. It just hasn't happened yet. I think he'll get. I think South Peres will get get that five hundred. And he's a steady twenty something homers fact his last two seasons seventeen and eighteen remember. He missed Tommy John last year. Were a dead. Even twenty-seven eighty for both but the average was way different to sixty eight to thirty five. So it gives you kind of the range of outcomes there. But e