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"The confederacy and many of the students wanted it taken down for generations. Yeah and and had been working for decades to remove it in a way that was legal and followed all the rules and they went through every process. They could go through the north carolina. General assembly passed a law specifically to protect statues of this type from being removed even by the communities in which they stand and schools where they are in court houses and to make it virtually impossible to remove them and so stymied and unable to do this in a legal way protesters toppled the statue on the campus. And so what happened. After that was members of the board of governors board of trustees in conservatives north carolina said put it back up we would like to redirect confederate statue now in the modern era and this was twenty eighteen and so this was for a lot of reasons. Very bad idea. People who are white supremacists or showing up sometimes armed on campus to quote unquote defend. The statue You know and it's just a terrible terrible idea to deal with any further. So what did the university do about this well in their telling to try to get around this law the state law. That's still in place that protects these statues. They made a secret deal with a neo. Confederate group called the sons of confederate veterans whereby the sense of confederate veterans. Who don't have anything to do with the statue assert that it is their property and they've gotten rights to it from the daughters of the confederacy which did in fact was the group that so many years before had had erected a statue and that they'd be willing to take it off the universities hands in a legal way if they would give them the statue and several million dollars. Technically for upkeep of the statue but still over two million dollars to maintain a confederate statues. That's exactly right and the leader of that group in a celebratory email. Said we're gonna use some of that money to build a headquarters for ourselves. We've won our allies in the unc system in the board of governors Simply helped us do this. It was a huge controversy and and the public only found out about it when it was done deal and it had been announced. So what happened with nicole. Hannah jones when i listened to all of this history is part of a pattern and it becomes clear like in the weeks after the ten year. Back and forth was reported on there was some reporting that for instance i think seventy percent of black faculty had considered leaving the institution. And when you place. What happened with nicole. Hannah jones into the wider context. You can understand why that it's just one more incident that might make that faculty feel unwelcome. Yeah in fact. A prominent tenured professor williams turkey in history. Farmer told me he thinks it's probably closer to ninety percents and their other professors who are leaving their Are publicly saying this is why we've got professors who they were trying to recruit who our top people in their fields. Who've said i'm not coming there and this is why so guy there's there's it's not a theoretical cost so for people who live in. North carolina is the solution to this problem in their educational system. The same solution. We keep hearing about for every other political fight. Were in the middle of vote. Like that's the only way out given the way the boards are appointed as you disagree with what they're doing. Yeah if you agree with what you're what they're doing and this is a. These are the glory days while their husband likes to talk about objectivity and reporting if i totally objective about this and i overlooked any number of things that are ethically objectionable or outright illegal and i just sort of look in it with the totally objective lens than what i see is a political struggle between two sides conservative general assembly in their political appointees and faculty staff alumni and students of the university of chapel hill in many universities in unc system who are are more liberal progressive and they have competing interests and competing philosophies about the university of how should operate what should stand for and one of them is in power and one of them is not a joke kellyanne. Thank you so much for joining me. Glad to help jokey leeann is an investigative reporter at nc policy. Watch and that's the show. What next is produced by lena. Shorts carmelo shod mary. Wilson daniel hewitt and davis land. We are led by alison. benedict unleash. montgomery mary harris. You can go track down on twitter whenever you want. I'm at mary's desk tomorrow. Stay tuned to this feed what next. Tvd is going to be here. Henry gruber is coming in the hosting chair. And he's going to be talking about what happens with remote work once we all go back to the office. okay. I'll get you back here on monday..
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"wilson daniel hewitt" Discussed on What Next | Daily News and Analysis
"The public as well. The public deserves to see more debates. Is there a little bit of self interest here. Like if you were in the senate which i know you know. That's that idea. It's a while off but if you were there and there was no filibuster that would be a reason for your democratic colleagues to be doing a lot more compromising with people like you. People who are considered more conservative. Democrats have used that are not as progressive others in your party. So do you see that too. You know it's it's hard to say. Because i think you know for the same reason we talked about the importance of bipartisanship majorities are gonna come ago in washington for both parties. And so yeah. I guess we're in the majority in. It's a narrow majority than than sure that could empower someone like me again. You know. I think i'm squarely in the middle of where the democratic party is. I resist the idea that i'm some. you know. Person on the on the right wing of it or whatever but I guess they could work that way i to me. The the more important motivation is that i continued experience. My constituents people. I talked to you about politics. Normal people who probably think about politics for less than five minutes a day. I just continue to experience them as being very disappointed and frustrated even cynical about what we do in washington. Dc not because of any particular issue but because it seems like we get nothing done. And i think one of the true reasons that we get nothing done is the way the filibuster has become this weapon for the forces of opposition and so again i'm only really talking about setting it aside for the purposes of voting rights and democracy at this point but if the choice was to get rid of it oh so you're you don't wanna blow it up entirely. Well i think what i would say is if the choice was to keep it how it is or get rid of it entirely. I would get rid of entirely. I'm a young person. There's a lot. I think we need to accomplish to to meet the challenges of of our era But my hope would be that if if it was set aside for the purposes of enacting h r one the voting rights act in doing what we need to do to to shore up the students of our democracy. We might be able to come to some understanding at some point of of how we're going to protect and promote the minority right to debate and maybe that becomes something that's not called a filibuster. Maybe it operates differently. But you know i would still be looking to do that because again. Both sides are going to be in the majority of the minority at some point but You know. I think you have to look at whether you can create a series of options and not just be in the binary of of habit or don't have it yet. The fear of few abolish the thing completely is that all of a sudden bills are just rocketing through a back and forth and back and forth and that's not great either right. I'm less fearful of that. Maybe because i'm younger than than some Because i still think it's phenomenally difficult to get things through the house senate and white house and then clear legal review later. I mean our our system still does set up quite a number of obstacles and again our our founders didn't design it to have the filibuster included so our founders set up this system Thinking that that was good enough to balance the interests. And i think it would probably be good enough to you know. I noticed you held a fundraiser recently. With joe manchin and of course that caught my attention because he's one of the major figures in the senate right now who said he's against getting rid of the filibuster and he's been pretty consistent on that. I wonder if you're having a conversation with him. What you would say from your perspective to just explain how you got where you are. And maybe sway him. Yeah i mean. I my conversations with him or or private so i i would just kind of say that that what i would say to anyone. Who was thinking about this. Is that the. The trump party has shown us who they are and they've shown us what they care about and what they care about is lying about january sixth and doing whatever else they can at all costs to please protect their leader donald trump. And so what. You did not hear in what i said. They cared about is preserving our democracy and democratic institutions. Which by the way is what. We all swore an oath to protect the thing. We weren't to protect us. Lawmakers was the constitution. It's the same oath. I swore as a marine officer as a prosecutor. something. I take really seriously and so. I think we've crossed the rubicon to the point where you know allowing the filibuster to remain A tool for them in their in their goal of just gumming up the works in washington so that these state legislatures out there can can try to basically steal our elections and take away people's right to votes i. I don't think we should allow that to happen. I really don't know the right. To vote is enshrined the constitution. The right to filibuster is not. There's an order of priorities. Here representative lamb. Thank you so much for joining me. Thanks for having me in for what you're doing. It was nice to talk to you. Carla represents pennsylvania's seventeenth congressional district. And that's the show. What next is produced by carmel. Dilshad davis mary wilson daniel hewitt and delano schwartz. We are led by. Bennie unleash montgomery and mary harris. You're gonna want to stay tuned to this feed because tomorrow what next. Tvd our friday show is going to be here with z. 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