17 Burst results for "William Virgil"

"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

Accused

02:06 min | 3 years ago

"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

"Previously on accused we need to do work investigate everything yourself that's what were supposed to date can't just rely on the paper she got an hour on a police detective saying something you have to go out and actually investigating yoursel that's part of your duty fortunately undermine ethical rules there's not willing much i can say about it because of the status of it at this point in time i remember huntoon this is accused the unsolved murder of wreak the welsh the first few days after william virgils release from prison he couldn't stop beating behind bars the menu options had been slim and bland outside he encountered so many new restaurants places he had never heard of places that didn't exist back when he was locked up a lot had changed in twenty eight years virgil wanted to try all the food a tattered bertewas i mean it air france food restaurant one data's next made at expert at then i said on now and this will put all the weight he realized he would have to slow this down it wasn't good freeze waistline teat out so much more than that there was the matter of his wallet he had no job and he had racked up some medical issues that we'd keep him from getting one he was nearing sixty five years old they each most folks retire and he had only ever earned a few odd paychex amidst 20s in 30s that meant he couldn't qualify for unemployment tur's social security both of which use your pass legal income to determine eligibility whether virgil would've ever cleaned up his criminal act to start a career is impossible to now but it wasn't an option behind bars dealing with that mentally has been tough in a way he can't easily articulate he spent so long in prison fighting to get out now that.

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"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

Accused

02:02 min | 3 years ago

"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

"It is that it's not grass told me in the courtroom minutes earlier that she intended to put the dna profiles pulled from this body and into combined dna index system or codis that's the fbi's criminal justice dna database she said recently that state police do still intend to submit it but they've got a jump through some logistical hoops first as it stands william virgil is again an innocent man despite the 28 years he spent behind bars he's never been convicted of murder according to the law you get to enjoy when one of these verdicts gives overturn do you do you enjoy it you have a glass of wine that night or is it more like okay and now the next one magsi a of us wining were angry oh we're happy for the person the be different if they dropped confetti from the courthouse away apologized stab story okay but this is one of the reasons i don't like the word closure it doesn't really exist the site we watched unfold at court a man freed from prison on a sunny winter day to overwhelm to speak would make a great final seen in a movie about his ordeal but it's nowhere near the end of the story it's the weight of that that linda tries to lighten by chuckling like a 12yearold boy at the word duty she and gemmer are back at work every day trying to save their other clients but they're doing so with less money in them when they started as that federal grant has long since dried up elliott slow sr is readying for another trial and another wrongful conviction case and he's working on several civil suits in hope of giving me exonerated men he represents some money to at least start their lives and new.

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"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

Accused

02:50 min | 3 years ago

"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

"The defence suit listener who caught but they just set the actual alert would be identified by testing seaman we just zemin in its mr virgin's seamen whether or not there humble clause to move forward is on this case is something that the tunnel based upon that fact alone did it seem it is unlike their victim's body is in trouble hawes at this point try as forceful as she sounds she's wrong virgils dna wasn't on read this body but it was at the scene terry the meal wasn't inquire reporter who covered virgils case after the dna testing was allowed here she's explaining where his dna was found this slip lingerie or night code in it's been described in different ways and i noted that the defence described it more as a housecoat something you might not wash frequently the prosecution described it as lingerie a slip that you would wear underneath something that had seamen on it and virgil could not be excluded from that so there was a spot of virgils dini at the scene but it wasn't enrique thighs snag grass had described and it didn't shake smith and jim irs faith in virgil because he had admitted a sexual relationship with retha so fluids were swapped at some point they consider the seamen in side refer to be much more relevant to her murder the rape kits wasn't all that was analyzed for dna they also tested the drops of blood that had been found inside virgils tennis shoes the ones detected brandt had seized in jail that blood did not belong to read the his lawyers had argued in the initial trial in short no dna evidence connected to the actual crime linked william virgil to read the welsh it took ten more months before virgil was granted a new trial that ruling came on christmas eve 2015 terry demille was there to cover the hearing and watched as virgil walked out of prison in almost freeman it's qualified because he was still facing retrial and had to get an ankle bracelet that he would wear for more than a year he couldn't leave kentucky without permission he was still viewed as an accused killer in the eyes of law enforcement there was a very small group of people waiting outside the jail on chris.

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"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

Accused

01:46 min | 3 years ago

"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

"But hill was wrong he eventually found the court order to destroy the knife in past that along to slow sr the order was in general at all dated february fourth twenty five the documents states plainly it is ordered that the campbell county sheriff's department shell destroyed the knife that was used as evidence in the above caption case it was signed by judge leonard l capacity this order is tough to understand three knives were collected in the wreath a welsh case but only one was destroyed the one belonging to a man that the defence highlighted as an alternate suspect why did law enforcement go out of its way to destroy this one knife when i first heard slow sarin court talking about police framing william virgil i winced i've covered some questionable police were during my reporting career but it's usually been sloppy or lazy at worst not malicious i still don't know what happened in virgils case but after reporting this case for nearly a year i don't blame slow surfer using the f word that's framed not the other one the reason i get it is because of the time line retha died in 1987 virgil was convicted in eighty eight in ninety one he confirmed that joe womack had perjured himself in two thousand four the state appellate court ruled that perjury didn't matter virgil and his lawyers had raised isaac rubs as an alternate theory in the filings that reached the appellate court and then immediately after that decision came down police moved to destroy the one piece of evidence that could have.

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"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

Accused

01:53 min | 3 years ago

"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

"The best evidence relating to joe womack though was developed know that we were going to use at the retrial was that william actually filed a lawsuit against the state of ohio in through the lawsuit issued his owned written discovery including request to admit in which he got the state of ohio that he answer them which is a feet allen of itself and the state of ohio yo agreed in these requests to admit that william virgil had never been in a cell with joe awoke act um because the cells were single cells to present iraq uh and so was really incredible work by somebody who had told legal experience now is without representation in those types of the answers i think corroborated the evidence so he is actually a developed relating to joe we'll talk about the evidence in a minute but first more about this lawsuit because this is a big deal it's in impressive move for an inmate to pull off anything quite like this here's me talking about it with virgil and slow saw a member were known remigio anato did it they their locked me up in the segregation sale and i'll father 1983 al's lots of little will play to call donna announces lantern be awhile saturday watch the negeri and it and it added the idea of of taking at role to try to get that information you know what's he started getting those low blows where there's this stuff this come to you you know you read all kind of angle so out a filed a lawsuit against uh lebanon correctional an award for the same thing i 5 against the jail for deny me uh.

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"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

Accused

01:31 min | 3 years ago

"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

"There is a saying that a lawyer who represent himself has a fool for a client may be so boat william virgil and least had the sense not to go solo as courses he might sound the man has a good grasp of the law as his prison sentence unfolded he was one of those inmates who learned everything he could reading legal textbooks in helping his fellow inmates file appeals and motions but before that he insisted on being his own cocounsel and his murder case he just wanted some control in his proceedings his life was on the line after all and he trusted no one to fight for his freedom as hard as he would himself the only time during the trial of that this really mattered was during while max testimony virgil insisted on crossexamining the man he was supposed to have confessed to virgil you stated that we sell together in isolation more mack yes sir virgil so if we'll check with the institution mel verify that guy's cell together and that you and i sell together in isolation in the month of august more mack yes sir virgil came back to this again and again we sell together in the same cell on what floor together you're saying he ousted in so many different ways that womack lost patience how many times you going to allow us to ask me the same question eight times to that question he told the judge the judge agreed it is getting repetitive.

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"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

Accused

02:02 min | 3 years ago

"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

"We went to kentucky after his hospital visit if you consider sued daniels and james backers testimony bodyblows in the case against virgil what we're going to talk about knacks is the knockout punch the ko comes courtesy of a lifelong criminal named joe womack when i say lifelong i mean as of now since he testified against william virtual he is spent a combined thirteen years in state prison for burglary and robbery charges according to the ohio department of corrections at the time he testified he was two years into an aggravated burglary sentence out of cuyohoga county he is currently being held in the lake erie correctional institution on four charges two counts of aggravated robbery one count of theft and one count of aggravated burglary his nuts parole hearing is in 2019 and working with virgils lawyers to tell the story the only concession we made regarding reporting involved joe womack and i'll be transparent about that here elliot slow saw asked us to hold off on attempting interview amac ourselves until after he gave his deposition in the civil case we agreed so sorry said the testimony was too important to risk womack gutting scared off by aggressive questioning by a reporter i obliged in part because i see no harm in waiting but more so because i see slow search point what's alleged to have happened here with jomo mac in this case is in short explosive womack was being held in lebanon at the same time william virgil was there lebanon's in ohio about a forty minute drive northeast from newport remember virgil wasn't charge straight away with wreath is murder rather he was picked up for violating parole and that parole stem from ohio so he was popped in in ohio prison where will mack was in the midst of that burglary sentence here's what will matt told jurors in the 1988 trial he said the previous august so about four months after.

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"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

Accused

01:47 min | 3 years ago

"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

"Previously on accused we started asked me a bunch of questions i ask where was that is automatically being the living daylights downli cocaine ethnic this craig it went the way it seemed like it should have went now when on the jury when prosecutor i wasn't there is a policeman at the time but the overnight decline shavit of it looks like a knocking at walks like a duck probably a duck i remember hunt in this is accused the unsolved murder and retha welsh every criminal cases a brand new jigsaw puzzle in fact it's something of a cliche in the courtroom in one murder case a covered in michigan the prosecutor literally made huge puzzle pieces to assemble into one giant prop in his closing arguments a phone call here a halo discovered there he flipped each piece over end on the backside portions of a portrait began to emerge on their own the clues me nothing but joined them together as this prosecutor did and you sometimes end up with a convincing portrait of a killer the shoeprints hair samples and jilted ex girlfriend were pieces of the puzzle that landed william virgil imprisoned for killing retha welsh in 1987 but they weren't the only ones a big piece came by way of read this boyfriend james becker who said he spotted a man and read this hallway the thursday before her death a man he identified in a photo lineup as william virgil.

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"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

Accused

02:04 min | 3 years ago

"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

"Hold thirty years ago was substantiated at the time headline is warning of nurses murder ignored several days before newport kentucky nurse read the welsh was killed at hamilton county probation officer was warned that the murder would take place at the probation it was reported at the time that a girlfriend of william virgils supposedly told her probation officer that he intended to kill someone john d collins no relation to the current police chief was the head of the probation division he was quoted in some articles is saying the probation officer didn't take sue seriously because she was a habitual liar the probation officer received reports several days before the murder collins said but colin said the officer whose identity he would not released discounted miss daniels claim because she had a history of lying collins said quote he made a judgement call in her alibi obviously in hindsight he did not give the claims the credence should have been given and quote after wreath as death the system was overhauled to mandate that any potential threat be reported period the probation officers name was in released at the time but i founded mentioned in an unsuccessful civil suit filed by read this family the allegation in the suit was that sudan ual told probation officer bill wilson that virgil had plans to kill a church lady across the river wilson didn't alert his higherups according to the suit and virgil followed through on his plans the suit was dismissed for a combination of legal reasons involving governmental immunity and statute of limitations i tried to track down bill wilson but as you can imagine i would be hardpressed to find more generic name i haven't been able to track down the right bill wilson yet i did find however that by 1990 it seems he had left the probation apartment and hired on in static crossroads a 10week probation program designed to.

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"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

Accused

01:55 min | 3 years ago

"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

"At one point he asked brandt quote is it not true that good police procedure calls for you to follow down as many of these leads as you can even though they may lead you know where unquote brandt replies quote it is my understanding that the bus procedure is to follow the strongest lead and then go with the next strongest lead and quote in other words you stick to the theory that seems most plausible until that theory falls apart only then you look at other possibilities the virgil theory never fell apart for police a few stayed experts took the stand to describe hair's collected from reef as body and apartment and a few of those hairs were microscopically similar to virgils granted there were other hair's there too that were decidedly not for tools but those were glossed over and trial there were hairs from african americans that few from caucasians in at least one from a dog despite retha not owning a pet the way hairs were compared back in the day was completely visual beneath the microscope you would take unknown hair sample like one plucked from william virgils head and eyeball it in comparison with an unknown sample such as a strand pulled from the night down wreath a war when she was killed a two thousand nine report in the national academy of sciences called the technique highly unreliable it's still used in courtrooms today but it's better studied now in his hammered hard by defence lawyers for good reason nearly one quarter of dna exonerations have involved faulty microscopic here analysis according to the innocence project in two thousand fifteen the fbi posted an explosive report on its website with the headline fbi testimony on microscopic hair analysis contained errors.

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"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

Accused

01:59 min | 3 years ago

"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

"Two exactly what they've done and if he got to be you it there is no way in the world that you would've ever come up with any other explanation or or any other verdict than what was there you might notice that collins is clear in his conviction and yet too little guarded he has good reason william virgil is suing campbell county and the newport police department for wrongful imprisonment collins is walking a line trying to be candid while not saying something that might be held against his department at the civil trial still he says he welcomes the looming trial because he thinks it'll cleared the department altogether if we ever real justice system it'll happen in the civil trial and i and i believe in that wholeheartedly because the in things always happen for a reason and you don't just get away with murder very rarely in i i really believe i wouldn't be doing this about it and believe in what we've done they because i'll tell you have a civil trial once again and on being repetitious but there's going to be things come out there so many things you talk about that you're not held to that standard he's right about standards judges in criminal trials are much less likely to allow police to talk about some leads that may be turn out to be flimsy but in a civil case a judge might be more lenient to allow an officer to explain why he chased this leader that as of this recording the civil cases in the deposition face witnesses are being interviewed under oath a trial date could come yet this year but we aren't holding our breath still were eager to learn what said in the depositions some of what's ask will no doubt be reminiscent of bits of the original trial because patten the defence lawyer did take officers to task for their process.

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"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

Accused

01:52 min | 3 years ago

"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

"Some one it's not clear which officer snapped a photo and that's it that's not what should have happened even someone who's just watch forensic files knows police should have kept the tile evidence praying it from the apartment bathroom floor so that it could be properly measured in analyzed short of that they at least needed to include something in the photograph for scale instead they shot an image of the footprint and we're done with it brandt eventually realized that more should have been done with a footprint but by then it had been scrubbed clean in cross examination patten asked brandt about the police were on at the scene patten wouldn't it have been better to chip pop them remove those tiles brand looking back at it now yes sir it's obvious that it would have been a better decision to do that that he flubbed this footprint evidence matters especially when considering what happened the first time he met william virgil a week after rica's body was discovered at that point virgil had just been taken to jail for nothing more than leaving the state of ohio without permission a violation of his parole here's virgil describing what happened next uh that up as well to go with a goal new labor report more parole also they arrested me for allegedly being a stable of listen which i knew i had been out of state up two different states you know so i didn't know which one it was could see this say right and so mark bryant came in there and he sent on start talking to me and he he he told me his name but he did say anything about you know i do a cop you know me would be to say anything about a murder.

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"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

Accused

02:02 min | 3 years ago

"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

"I recently spotted a post on twitter that resonated so much with me i am tempted printed out in pasted on my wall it was from greta van susteren she's the journalist who defected from fox only to have her msnbc show abruptly cancelled this summer a fan had tweeted aware that he'd started watching her during the oj simpson trial he applauded how she reported on the case he wrote even when all evidence pointed to guilty you remained impartial greta read tweeted this with a common quote a jury does not decide innocent or not but whether prosecutor has proven beyond a reasonable doubt unquote it's an important distinction you have to look at criminal cases through two very different lenses in this country we lay people tend to look at innocence and guilt we don't care as much about what is provable as we do which true and we often view the work done by police and prosecutors with the some shin that there are viewing it through this same prism but they're not they're trained to look at the case is something they win or lose the system is in designed to find out who is guilty as much as it's designed to find someone guilty and once that conviction is obtained it's difficult beyond words to get it overturned even when someone can prove their innocent so let's look at the evidence that condemned william virgil to prison first i'll give an overview of the prosecution's case sort of my bullet point version of their opening statement that lays out the case you know what ammo they were armed with it'll feel like a lot of information at once but and what she did get a sense of how overwhelming the prosecution's case likely seemed to onlookers at the time generically the evidence fell into three categories physical eyewitness and biological more specifically based.

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"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

Accused

01:49 min | 3 years ago

"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

"So what they did is everyone that was related that help them tie the case back to virgil they put that piece of paper in a separate file that was basically the virgil file as mark g j at the top after they went through it decided what they were going to give the grand jury or what they were gonna test by two at the grand jury that grand jerry apparently indicted william verge on murder charges but that ever hearing that anyone else could have done it that last minute discovery by robert patten delayed the trial from months it had originally been scheduled for april 18th 1988 a year in the week after wreath is death patten told campbell county circuit court judge leonard capacity that he needed time to explore this new information the judge rescheduled the trial for september patten had to decide his strategy his job was to defend william virgil from the accusation it would certainly help his cause if he could point to another probable party but it turned out there were a lot of people on the suspect list and the police records patten was given showed that investigators didn't spend much time on anyone else virgil never confessed of you i don't think he was guilty three mu involved as the to you and me but i'll tell anybody there also anybody that an i if for a different reason than most people think um the trial wasn't put together right m bothered me at the time and i said what the heck is going on here of course my client had told me one inconsistently and he had an alibi for where he was the might of the murder.

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"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

Accused

01:34 min | 3 years ago

"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

"I remember hunting this is accused the unsolved murder and retha welsh just before william virgil was to go on trial for the murder of retha welsh his defence lawyer meet a shocking discovery that seemed to throw the prosecution's case in jeopardy robert patten gotta call alerting him to additional files related to the case that he hadn't been given yet he didn't think much of it at first he said because he already had a huge stack of documents but then he noticed that the letters g j had been scrawled on all the files already given to him but not on the new ones that were just surfacing he started to wonder with the letters meant and want to went over there there was boxing or orlando liquor box but must have fifteen files in it may be more solveiga look adamantly were dead ends ally grier but many of were suspects including this becker fellow boyfriend and though and the other one was isaac grubbs who i had represented at least twice before once i'd take a truck for uh for part of my fee so i knew who the guy was i knew he was he was violent because he was always in trouble with the law in short three days before a jury selection patten was given a box filled with information about possible alternate suspects suddenly he realized sweat jj meant it's what they had given to the grand jury the rest was well not.

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"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

Accused

02:06 min | 4 years ago

"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

"April had already been busy month for chief huq he'd had several press conferences fielding pointed questions from reporters about a seemingly unrelated death just blocks from read the welsh his apartment in that case a 27yearold wildeyed man wielding a knife had been shot dead by police officers huq didn't know it then but by the time virgil went to trial that seemingly unconnected police shooting and the murder of retha welsh would rightly or wrongly be forever entwined the story will lay out has twists we never saw coming as these episode unfold you'll hear from the man who found read this body from an eyewitness in this case police never located and from william virgil who spent twenty eight years in prison for a death blow lay out the evidence police gathered against virgils you can way it for yourself and you'll learn about a witness who has recently testified under oath the virgil was straight up framed it hasn't been an easy story to report in part because read this families still believes that prosecutors had the right guy and maybe they did but the fact is virgils now a free man and wreath this murder went from solved two unsolved with the stroke of a gavel next time on accused i don't get up study it was it was it was a somewhat klein the state that she was in and the fact that it was flooding in the bathroom on the wall in the carcass this is a special project by the cincinnati enquirer in cincinnaticom reported and narrated by amber hunt edited by amy wilson produced by amanda rosman and sell did in music was composed by andrew higley kimberly armstrong assisted with research for photos documents and more go to accused podcastcom.

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"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

Accused

01:38 min | 4 years ago

"william virgil" Discussed on Accused

"Less than four percent of the region is black william virgil ended up with an allwhite jury after his conviction he said he had never hoped for a fair trial anyway the new stories at the time it didn't talk about retha welsh having dated some of the prisoners she counselled it eventually came out during trial that she had a black boyfriend but that was downplayed instead the stories focused on ruth is day job is as psychiatric nurse with the veteran's hospital in cincinnati and also on her work inside the prisons on the truth created rather stately um i recall which theory getting very personally friendly with some of the folks that she was um ministry who in the jail and that is one point was the question about you know should be looking at committed she'd had a relationship with chaplin failed to avoid contact with inmates read the headline on one of lara lien stories it began quote the slaying of counselor retha welsh is a prime example of why jailed chaplin's are trained not to get too close to the inmates they comfort officials who oversee jail ministry program said and quote one of on holly when everything is friends still gets upset thinking about the risk retha took by opening her home a she was tortured growing person and she was so proud and happy over what she had to overcome with the lord's help and shooting a good christian life in a shoe is just uh.

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