17 Burst results for "William Haggis"
The Final Furlong Podcast
"william haggis" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"Jockeys, trainers, and owners want. Not on what's good for the sport. But on optics. And what the perception of something is going to be. And what bloody futures does this sport have? How long is it going to be before Julie Harrington or whoever it is that replaces her in ten 15 years is halfway around the world at another gravy train conference where they're all given as Richard hoyle said, they're all giving themselves pats on the back and talking about what a great job they're doing. And somebody representing the BHA says, well, we know the final stages of the gold cup will be shown on news programs, and we know that fences are a welfare issue. So we're just going to get rid of fences. We'll get rid of hurdles. And that's an opportunity to make the sport look better. Everybody will be in the same boat and it'll all be good. And if you think that's ridiculous, it is clearly a stupid thing to say. But is it that divorced from reality if they're going to say, or the whip's not a welfare issue? But we're not going to actually defend this. We're not going to back it as a device as a vital tool for a jockey. No, we're just going to bend to the will of those who hate the sport, who don't like us in the hope that they might come around. You give them an inch they'll take a mile. It's not enough. The RSPCA themselves have issued a statement when the whip report came out. And when the new rules were issued, saying, this doesn't go far enough. The whip should be gone. Three, you're never going to please these people. You're never going to please them. And what you're doing is you're pushing away. You're pushing away the hardcore fans. Who love this sport with every, with every breath. The fans will listen to this show who listen to the nickel daily who are watching racing TV who are excited about children. You're on bet, you're looking through the anti post markets and you're excited about getting stuck into Sheldon. And what is it now? Prize money is ridiculous, small fields, walkovers, attendances are down across the board. The horse population in the UK continues to decline. The number of high class sources in training since 2019 has more than halved. The horses who were raised one 51 plus in the United Kingdom in jumps races was 43. 43 horses that fit into that category in the Anglo Irish classifications for last year. And then people wonder where is the entries for the grand national? Why is there only two runner races for a grade one, two chases? The horses aren't there. Because owners are voting and saying, well, I'm going to go to Ireland. I'm going to put my horses with Willie Mullins. I'm going to put them with Henry with gourd. British racing is falling apart in front of our eyes. And I remember, I remember you, Dennis last year, said they might as well just get rid of the whip now because that's where this is going. And it clearly is and I'm reminded of a conversation that I had 15 years ago. With a former senior executive, it wouldn't have been the BHA would have been the other name that it had at the time. It might have been the jockey club, actually. And I was asking them about where do you see the future of racing going? And he said, there will be no jumps racing in the United Kingdom in 30 years. I thought that that's hyperbolic and obviously you're just overreacting. He said, nope. Mark my words there will be no British racing in the United Kingdom. No jumps racing now the kingdom in 30 years. Well, that was ten, 15 years ago. And we're getting closer. And the more you look at it and the more decisions based on optics, not in reality, is a terrible way to go about things. There's so many bigger problems in just the way people are talking there about the horses being rated over a 150 to 43 them. A horse we were going to touch on later. In the UK yeah, a horse we're going to talk to you later on. A horse collar work cool for Nick Alexander who won over the weekend. He said 20 starts. He's won 7 times. And he's raided into one 40s. He's won 7 of his 20 stacks, and he hasn't won 70,000 pound prize money. Jesus. You think you're getting into horse race and somebody says, you start 20 races, you win 7. I'm going to make a few quid out of it. And you look what that cost and a point to point to that. So that's a huge issue. You're trying to attract all of the horses. What's that 25% of the starts? And it hasn't won 70 grand. And he's not even paying for himself that horse. And then you'll have people very, you will have people who will argue, oh, well, it's not about the prize money. Prize money doesn't matter to owners. It's about the prestige of British racing. That is such nonsense. And it's for some owners, but for the majority, it's not the horses have to pay for themselves. Well, I do a horse has to pay from 7. That's the endgame. It's abundantly clear when you're seeing horses being sold to Hong Kong for Sam Hoskins was saying that the average offer for a maiden winner on the flat would be half a million. For Hong Kong, horses that are being taken out of the UK by owners to race in America. Horses that have been sent, the horse that was taken from William hagis yard, was it sulkin? The owner was actually saying I feel really bad about this because I want to help William haggis win the trainers championship, but the money is too big in Australia.
The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"william haggis" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"Actually race one more time before retirement and the group one kipco champion stakes at ascot on October 15th and the lone loss of his career was a fourth place finish. Welcome back to the year in review 2022 here on HR N Bobby Newman Dave Freeman. Well, Dave, the international runners had a big say, not only across international waters, but when they eventually would run here against our local runners, but we never got to see run here in this country. And there was a lot of 22 when the argument was not whether or not flight line was the best horse in the world, but whether or not he was better than bad. They were both horses who had done nothing wrong in their careers, baid completely in Europe. Of course, flight line completely here in the states. They were both lightly raced runners. They had only run in 21 and 22. And for a long time, I know I'd bemoaned the fact that there was never any plan to run by here in the states. They would never even really thought about the breeders cup. It was never in the plans of trainer William haggis and the owners and shadwell estate company, et cetera. Unfortunately, bae did not retire undefeated. The one poor effort in his career was the final race of his career, where he ran fourth, but most of 2022 he was a big say in the racing community. The race that we played in the rejoin, the international stakes. I watched that race. I had seen bad run. I don't know, two or three times and said, yeah, this is really good horse, but I don't really have the context to understand how good ran by mishriff and several other horses that were familiar with. Like they were standing still. I mean, not knowing the horse intimately. I was thinking at one point during the race. Wow, maybe bids in a little bit of trouble here. And ten seconds later, he was ahead by 5 lengths. So he won in kind of dominating fashion. I don't know about the same way that flight line did, but at least in a few of his races in kind of a similar scintillating way. And he is a horse that maybe we don't appreciate or maybe we can't understand quite the same way we do the horses that we watch every day in America, but he was an international superstar that sort of transcended the sporting scene in Europe, became a superstar, a big name. And it was special to see him. It is disappointing. We never got to see him run in America, but that takes nothing away from his accomplishments. Bid was certainly the top male runner in Europe through most of 2022. The top female runner in Europe was this year's Arc de Triomphe winner, alpinista. In fact, alpinista completely opposite of by eating the fact that she did not begin her career like a house of fire. I think she lost three of her first four starts and it really took her a while to get going back as a two year old in 2019 and early 2020, but she ended up undefeated both last year and this year winning 8 races in a row 5 and 21 and three here this year in 2022, all group one events, the predecessor Yorkshire oaks and finally beating the boys in the Arc de Triomphe, alpinista, another one that those of us who are based here in this country and for the most part follow racing in this country may have not gotten a chance to see if you have a chance and I know Dave that you do this on a regular occasion. Go back and look at some of alpin this is racist. She was as good as it gets. Well, and winning the arc is special, right? Because that's a little bit like a breeder's Cup race. And she went up against the boys. And she won. And again, I don't know that you and I can put in proper context where she ranks or how she fits. But the way she won one race after another taking on bigger and better challenges and then to conclude with winning the arc, it would be, it was special. It was impressive. And it's something that is very much worth noting, even if I'm not sure how to put into context in the same way that we can talk about the Europeans that came to America and one breeders cup races and let's be honest if you were at keeneland if you were betting the races from keenland during the breeders cup, you either had Aiden O'Brien and Charlie Applebee or you didn't have winners. Yeah, and as it turned out, Europe did not have to send its very best of the best over here to still have very good chances at winning these breeders cup races. The turf races, both Friday and Saturday of breeders cup this year. Dominated by the European based runners and whether it was modern games getting a second win in a row this time winning the breeders cup mile or rebels romance or Tuesday or the bevy of others. I know they're not all male runners, but they look like men against boys, if you will, especially in the stretch. Yeah, I think that's really well said. They weren't the best. They were the best by an enormous margin. And that's what makes it so impressive. Because it's one thing to win, it's another thing to be clearly the best. I remember reading a lot about rebels romance before the breeders cup and feelings were really, really split. There were those that said, you know, this is a horse you need to watch out for if it's really well, well trained while bread. And then there were other people that said, you know what, those European prep races, they're not very good. This is not an a level horse. Don't expect what you've come to expect. And then rebels romance was just the Best Buy open links. And that's what we saw kind of one after another at keeneland. And that didn't mean that you handicapped the right European horse, but boy, the European horses in general were so good that that group of them as a whole. But to me, Bobby, modern games is the one that I'm going to have the best memory of, not just because I liked modern games and cash tickets with modern games. But because of what had happened in the breeders cup, the previous year where modern games was in the race, won the race, but we weren't able to bet because of that whole scratch deal at the last minute, and then for modern games a year later, to come back and win another breeders Cup race and were able to bet on them. That was kind of special the way that whole 12 month period worked out. Charlie appleby is a phenomenal trainer, William Buick is certainly one of the best, if not the best riders in the world right now.
The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"william haggis" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"The near future because that seems like that's a real growing thing. You know, I will say stuff that always gets great to hear from Charles. Good luck to him this weekend. They got I mean, other than it looks like the two stakes races tomorrow open a card Bobby. They got like all these like overflow horse fields. Not funny though, that like Applebee and O'Brien who both won like three breeders cup races this year. You know, they're like always, they're going to be on, I think, in the favor of any American observer of European racing. I'm not saying a debt naturally like 8 and O'Brien, but I don't know if people who follow your English racing real close. Like bob nastanovich, do you think he will be like his favorite trainer? It just would be interesting to hear some perspective from people who follow that English racy scene. If they hold him, you know, because there's obviously some other trainers from over there that dumb well here John gosden and people like that that have huge barns there. Yeah, and actually I spoke with bob nastanovich on the phone yesterday. So he and his band pavement are back from several month tour all around the states and in Europe and their back for a few months and then they I think they go to Asia and Australia for about a month or so early part of next year. So he may be a little bit biased because he does some work on the side for William haggis, who of course is the trainer of by Eden and other very, very good European based trainer and he's done a lot of work with him and probably would put him right there in the category with these other guys, although haggis doesn't have maybe doesn't have the same clientele as some of those other trainers we mentioned. And maybe he doesn't have the amount of horses that some of those other guys had, but he's another one that I know bob would put right up there as one of the top trainers over the years at least recently in Europe. Might get to have bob and his on one of the shows in the next few weeks before he and his band pavement head back on tour. Wanted to mention, we gave a little bit of love to some of the big races at aqueduct last weekend. We also saw some great racing throughout the meat at the Bing Crosby meet a del mar and closing weekend, no different there, saw some really, really nice terfs, including Chad Brown unleashing a couple good Phillies, the two year old liguria and the older mere regal glory in what I think is the final start of her career. She was a resounding winner of the matriarch for the second consecutive year. What did you think of regal glories performance and maybe some of the other ones like liguria speedboat beach this past weekend at del mar? Yeah, I mean, I thought it was a great way to go out there. That is going to be regal glory. I believe her, that was going to be the last start. And she rarely put on a show and yeah, I mean, speedboat beach boy, he looks the part of a talented, you know, I was glad to see I was glad to see him stretch out to mile like he did. And it was a solid win. What did you think about speedboat beach? All right, we're going to take our final break when we come back and to find out from James, what's going on over at brisnet this weekend. We're going to get his best play of the weekend. Still have time for a phone call or two if you'd like to call in. Number to get
The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"william haggis" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"In show phone lines are open. 888-966-4776 is the number body Newman. James Scully till the top of the hour. James, we talk a lot about the great racing in this country and we usually pre interview some big races coming up over the weekend, but the biggest races in the world this weekend are not in this country. They actually take place Sunday in Hong Kong as the Hong Kong international races are pitting some of their local stars like two time mile winter golden 60 to defend his title in the Hong Kong mile. Also some great Japanese runners, some great European invaders and horses that a lot of us who were follow the foreign racing just kind of on a fringe level may still recognize horses like order of Australia or panthalassa running broom, Stone Age, bolshoi ballet, all part of a major program this Sunday morning in Hong Kong and not that I'm driving everyone to bet on Hong Kong races, but their fundraises to watch. There's huge money in the pools there in those Hong Kong races and that looks like they have a good card this Sunday. Yeah, those are our competitors and I've bet on them before or maybe that's on that's on that program before. Usually I'm like looking for information on the horses from Kelly Reilly who I work with who falls international race in, but yeah, I mean, we have PPs Bruce and I'll definitely take a look at the races and perhaps bit them ahead because I probably won't be up that late watching them. Well, they're not necessarily up late. I mean, they could be as early as like early Sunday morning, but either way their late Saturday night or early Sunday morning that I don't have the PPs out yet. I will say this. They bet you know what ton of money in those pools. And I'm not talking about just on these big days. Any day that they have racing at happy valley or shot in, you look at those pools, it's phenomenal. I mean, they must just be maybe there's a law that you have to wager in Hong Kong. I've never seen pools that look like this. Yeah, I've talked to somebody who's been over there and is like toward the places and they like, I mean, people over there enthusiastically play both the lottery, like, I don't know how they play it. They've served numbers or whatever. And horse race in bats. And they'll do it every day, and that they call in bets. And they have people at the racetrack like scores of people taking both lottery bets and horse tracing beds from people. Two of the most popular forms of gambling in Hong Kong. I would like to see what enthusiastically playing the lottery looks like. Yeah, I can't imagine walking into the circle K or 7 11 or wawa or you pick whatever your favorite place is. And in enthusiastically playing the lottery, more like, well, here's 20 that's going down the drain. That's the one that's the way it's more you say. Yeah, have you ever been to a wawa? No, I don't think so. I mean, maybe, but it's okay, wawa, I don't know where they're based, but they have them a lot here in Florida. And I think through another state, they're a much nicer, more full service gas station convenience store than some of the other brand names. They'll have 7 or 8 yogurt machines. And they'll have the slushy machine. And they'll have the hot food where you can get the pizza and you can get the sandwiches and things like that. And they'll have everything else that you want. But it's just a nicer, a much nicer, higher level gas station convenience store. If you ever have the chance, like if you're driving somewhere. And there's a wawa or somewhere else as your choice. Go to the wawa, you will not be disappointed. And they, a lot of the food that they make there fresh and serve, you'll say is better than other places that you're stopping to eat on your drive. Yeah, I mean, I've got family up in West Virginia, and I've stopped in it like in Morgan town at a sheets, and, you know, I got like 16 gas. And the place is absolutely packed and you can walk inside and there's all these people like eating and you know, you go in there and it has all that stuff you're talking about, it sounds like the same concept. Like, I went there with my cousin once and we ordered some food and it's all like self service. You know where you punch in your order and the food and it tastes good, by the way. Yeah, so yeah, I know the concept, but we don't have like at least not close to the end yet. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't coming in the near future because that seems like that's a real growing thing. You know, I will say stuff that always gets great to hear from Charles. Good luck to him this weekend. They got I mean, other than it looks like the two stakes races tomorrow open a card Bobby. They got like all these like overflow horse fields. Not funny though, that like Applebee and O'Brien who both won like three breeders cup races this year. You know, they're like always, they're going to be on, I think, in the favor of any American observer of European racing. I'm not saying a debt naturally like 8 and O'Brien, but I don't know if people who follow your English racing real close. Like bob nastanovich, do you think he will be like his favorite trainer? It just would be interesting to hear some perspective from people who follow that English racy scene. If they hold him, you know, because there's obviously some other trainers from over there that dumb well here John gosden and people like that that have huge barns there. Yeah, and actually I spoke with bob nastanovich on the phone yesterday. So he and his band pavement are back from several month tour all around the states and in Europe and their back for a few months and then they I think they go to Asia and Australia for about a month or so early part of next year. So he may be a little bit biased because he does some work on the side for William haggis, who of course is the trainer of by Eden and other very, very good European based trainer and he's done a lot of work with him and probably would put him right there in the category with these other guys, although haggis doesn't have maybe doesn't have the same clientele as some of those other trainers we mentioned. And maybe he doesn't have the amount of horses that some of those other guys had, but he's another one that I know bob would put right up there as one of the top trainers over the years at least recently in Europe. Might get to have bob and his on one of the shows in the next few weeks before he and his band pavement head back on tour. Wanted to mention, we gave a little bit of love to some of the big races at aqueduct last weekend. We also saw some great racing throughout the meat at the Bing Crosby meet a del mar and closing weekend, no different there, saw some really, really nice terfs, including Chad Brown unleashing a couple good Phillies, the two year old liguria and the older mere regal glory in what I think is the final start of her career.
The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"william haggis" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"By naira betts, Bobby Newman, Dave Friedman before we get back to the stakes previews. It's time now for the blood horse news update. And a look at the top headlines from bloodhorse dot com. All right, Dave the hits just keep on coming exceptional arc heroin alpinista retired. Arc de Triomphe winner alpinista has been retired with immediate effect after sustaining a minor injury in the build up to her planned swan song in the grade one Japan cup this month trained by sir Mark Prescott for owner breeder Kirsten rousing alpinista scored 6 times at the group one level with her finest moment coming at long shot last month when winning the ark under jockey Luke Morris, Prescott said, quote, unfortunately the alpinista has suffered a slight setback and will not now be able to take her chance in the Japan cup. It's a great shame as the Japan racing association had been fantastic in making arrangements for the trip and I can't thank them enough alpinista was exercised this morning, but has now been retired to stud where she will join the great broodmare band of miss rousing as trainer William haggis said about baid at the Cartier awards last night. Now the search begins for another one and quote. At wraps up this afternoon's edition of the blood horse news update, there's one website that's the industry's go to site for racing, breeding sales and news it's blood horse dot com from breaking news to race results recent rape race replay videos leading earner list tireless stallion register and so much more you'll find it all at blood horror dot com the largest equine news site focused on owners and breeders with more than 5 million unique visitors a year. Blood horse dot com and don't forget to check out bloodhorse plus offering exclusive content, including behind the scenes videos and interviews, weekly programs showcasing the industry's upcoming races and recapping the recent stakes and much more its blood horse plus.
The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"william haggis" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"He ended up winning by 6 and a half lengths over miss riff. He's a perfect ten for ten in his career and he will make the 11th and final start of that illustrious career tomorrow at ascot in the group one kipco British champion stakes also at the distance of a mile and a quarter. Welcome back to bedding with Bobby presented by Caesar's race book. Please now to be joined by a good friend of those of us here in the network. He is been on HR and many times as an analyst. We've had him on talking about some of the great European runners before breeders cup time. It's been a little bit busy this year. He's got a little bit thing little thing going called tour dates going on with his band pavement and after a successful run all summer starting on the West Coast and going Midwest and heading to the east coast over the last week. He's now flown to the UK and has about a week or a week and a half off before they start the European facet of their tour. Bob nastanovich, I'm glad you're taking time still to enjoy your other passion, my friend horse racing. Yeah, no, I love we played in Austin, Texas, on Tuesday night. I immediately boarded a plane on the next day. It was very surprised that I could get a direct flight from Austin to London. That was a real treat. Yeah, you know, southwest southwest is a great airline that they would do that for you. Yeah, no, they are a great airline, but I'd like to thank Virgin Atlantic for getting me to London in one piece and I came straight to stay with my dear Friends, Sean and I'm a very here in new market in Beverly house stables, which is about three furlongs from where bae lives at Somerset lodge. Under the tutelage of William haggis, who really is a fantastic trainer. In fact, the under really undercurrent tomorrow on champions day is that he's going for his first champion trainer title and he's in a real nail biter with the more well-known Charlie Apple V yards so obviously the haggis artists every year for the last several years have been a top 5 operation here in England, but they operate under the shadow of more famous traders at least to the American audience like Charlie appleby and John goss and so it would be a real feather in the cap for Somerset lodge to lift the trainer's title and if Bai does any two to 9 in the bedding right now. He really only appears to have competition from a very good horse a day who won the 2021 epsom Derby and he's actually in peak form judging by his easy win at doncaster the other day, but the other is it's really much of a much there's some talented horses in there, but it really is by east race to lose. There had been talk after the win in the Judd month that bayed was either going to run in this race or perhaps try a mile and a half in the Arc de Triomphe, although it sounded all the way like the kipco champion stakes was the heavy favorite of the two, what was do you know what the determining factor was to lean toward this as his final race as opposed to the ark? I think the determining factor would have been the arc would have been his first try over 12 for long, which he certainly bred for. He's really a stamina laden pedigrees by king mambo. I'm sorry, I see the stars out of the great king mambo maraga Reed and his second down by each second dam is a horse that would be familiar to the American racing audience of horse called law who do to won the 2007 breeders cup billion married turf at Monmouth, about three weeks after she easily won the flower bowl at Belmont. So he comes from a really, really deep family. If you go way back to one of the queen's best racing families, so we stoutly bred, but he possesses the speed to win over much shorter. The first 9 races of his career. He won over a mile and arguably his most impressive performance came on this card last year when he beat a very good horse called palace Pierre and the one mile race on the card and his race that you work that we listened to during the break there are the replay of I miss riff the best race of his life was the year before in the international York. And he really made mishra if he's a very talented horse, a Saudi cup winner indeed. Really look different class and he wrote us every bit of the extra two furlongs there. I think the optimal distance for him is ten for as long as they certainly think he can stay a mile and a half, but I would say the way that the ground softened up almost nearly untraceable to the eyes of an American racing fan and albanese who's just been a tour de force this year. She really used all of her stamina and reserve. I think she would have been a very tough horse to beat on our day. I think unquestionably they made the right decision considering that the horses run some marvelous races at ascot. So again, it's a fantastic day on the gallops. I went out at 8 a.m., I was able to see him. Whereas he sort of lacks the charisma of frankel and maybe even enable in terms of his physical attributes. He's a very, very strong and impressive horse. He's not stunning. You know, he's a very obviously a very nice horse and that's the right to become a very good study, which I'm quite confident that it will be. He's just an amazing animal. And the thing about him is he was nowhere near ready to run as a two year old. And when he first appeared in June of his three year old year in kind of a pretty average maiden race at Lester, he was sent off at 6 to one, I wish we'd known about him that day. I want to easily and then he system proved every race since and his last race was by far his best. So if he was coming back next year, I think it would be a very, very tough horse to beat over a mile and a half. But this is it for him. So he's one to 5 on the American morning line, but you mentioned two to 9 in the current wagering is bad. I think the race that most of us here on this side who kind of follow European racing a little bit more from afar. You know, when it mainly when it comes down toward breeders cup time, the race, the kind of sticks out to us is two races back when he won the Sussex stakes over a good wood and the fact that he ran by modern games going a mile like modern games was tied to a post and modern games when he runs against anyone that we know over here looks like he's in a different world compared to them and he's no match for bad.
The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"william haggis" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"Here on HR and Bobby Newman James Scully phone lines are open, give us a call. 888-966-4776 is the number to get in. You mentioned James before we went to break one of the things you mentioned was in Italian and her chances may be stretching out and being controlling speed if she were to go in the breeders cup filling in mayor turf, one of her stable meets, roger won the EP Taylor over the weekend over at woodbine. What did you think of her effort and maybe her chances going forward? Well, I was certainly encouraged to see her, but I get back on track because, you know, I've really liked her early in this year, which she had French group one winner. I really liked her chances when she won that bogey. And I was willing to excuse her next couple of losses. I mean, she didn't fire one time at odds on. At Belmont. But like I said, that Diane, I still think the terse set up for, but she ran poorly in that Beverly D and it did come at Churchill. I just was a little worried. I mean, you keep making excuses for a horse. But she turned it around and it was a pretty gutsy win win by a neck or so. You know, she's back on track. I just think, you know, she will be stepping up the face better and that race. But it's interesting to see because, you know, like, you know, present form really matters. And then this is affiliate that has some back class. Like I said, was group one winner in France and I don't know what do you think? Do you like her going forward? Well, I don't know who's going to be in that race. My guess is there will be somebody shipping over from Europe that will look like a major player in there. And who knows, maybe there's somebody from Japan that would just not thinking of right now, don't forget loves only you, Japanese runner won the race last year. We do know this. The Philly or mayor that would likely be favored in that race if she were to run it is not going to run in it. That's warlike goddess. And she was able to beat the boys in the Joe hirsch turf classic this last weekend. And they've just come out and said that she's going to run in the breeders cup turf, and why not? It's a much bigger person. The breeders kept filling in mayor turf. I am not a giant warlike goddess fan. I didn't like her this past weekend, and I'm still not a giant fan. Unfortunately, I look at a kind of a glass half empty with her, I think she's very pace reliant. The one time that she ran against a really good field, she did not get the job done, and that may have something to do with the trip that she got that day. And unfortunately, the male that looked like the most logical one to beat her this past weekend goof O ran absolutely last in the race. So that being said, she doesn't almost nothing but win. So when she's running, I'm losing. It turns out. She's like, she's like my modern day John Henry. She wins almost every time and somehow I never cash a ticket. What did you think of her effort in the Joe hirsch turf classic? And what do you think of the decision to stick with the boys and not the girls in the breeders cup? I thought it was a no brainer. I mean, I think we're like goddess if they were in two mile grade one races for Phillies and mayors, she'd win every single time. I think a mile and a half hits her between the eyes and she'd be better going further than shorter. And I think that that race just showed it. I mean, it wasn't just the way she won, but it's just a turn of foot just to win by three lens. I mean, or I guess it was the way she won. But it wasn't the horses she'd be because you referenced that. I mean, goof out in fire. She didn't beat the best of horses. But she just loves that mile and a half distance she's 5 for 5 at the trip. I thought she ran a huge race. I mean, I thought she loves only you ran a huge race and was really good last year and war got like godless moved to soon. And I think she had been handed a little bit more patiently by Julian le Peru. She could have gotten the job done or would have been less than a half months on the wire. And so I'm a 100% encouraged by that effort. Granted, she's going to be facing some Europeans in there. No doubt about it. But as far as like the American breeders cup turf horses, I think she has nobody to fear. So I think she can hit the board. Even against those Euros that are coming over. I think not only that, I mean, I think she's very likely going to be favored or second choice in the race. And I don't know like you. I don't know who's in there yet. We know the best European turf is not running in the race. His name's bayed, and he's running the Saturday for the final time in his story career but he's not running in the race. We know that he's a mound a quarter horse. If he could get a mile and a half, they would not have bypassed the arc. You know, I'm sorry about that. I had I had, you know, I was hoping he'd still go for the arc. You know that always disappoints me a little bit when those horses like baid. He had a chance. I thought to really make a case for his overall greatness to stretch out that extra quarter mile and he didn't do it, but I'm sorry to interrupt you. No, no, that's fine. And one thing I like about their decision is they've kind of made it very clear most of the way that this race, the British champions, was the way they were leaning. And it sounds like from listening to trainer William haggis that one, he obviously is a very knowledgeable horseman. And two, when he makes a point to his owners, they obviously trust him enough to say, yeah, that makes sense. That's what we should do. And so I'm looking forward to seeing him run this Saturday morning. Well, I am too. And you're right. I didn't mean to like slam him at all and William haggis is a great great horseman and he's just been a terrific performer. You know, it's been a thrill to watch him run. He hasn't faced the deepest competition, but, you know, some of his some of the horses that he's been at rum well this year. So I take nothing away from him. He's terrific. Once again, the phone number to get in, 888-966-4776. That's triple 8 9 6 6. HR RN. Okay, so we talked a little bit about warlike goddess and how good she was in the Joe hirsch and you think it's the right decision. I think most people would agree with that that she's already proven that she can beat the boys. Under the right circumstances, why not do it on one of the biggest stages over at Keenan in the breeders cup turf, and by the way, the breeders cup turf is a significantly bigger purse than the affiliate mayor turf. So not only is it a better distance for warlike goddess, but it's more money, bigger incentive if she were to get the job done. Let's switch gears a little bit and talk about the Phillies and mayors on the dirt. You briefly talked about male fat and nest. Just kind of mention nest and passing another runaway win in the bell name where she really didn't have any competition that day she was expected to win easily. She did win easily. I think she was the one in 9 favorite in the race. Male fat has never been that kind of a mayor.
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"william haggis" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"You know, it's a different circumstance. He's a better horse this year. That's the race to aim for if I had him. Now, last year, the best European miler space blues came over and beat our best runners in the breeders cup mile. This year, it looks like the best horse in Europe, who is been a miler, but stretched out to a mile and a quarter yesterday by Eid is not coming to the breeders cup. Which certainly could play into their decision making because by all accounts and folks, if you haven't seen, if you didn't get to see this race live yesterday, the Judd Monte international at York go back and watch the replay of this. This horse baid, he's serious. I mean, he's ranked the top horse in the world, and I know a lot of our listeners probably don't know much about him because he's only been racing in Europe and we know flight line and we know Jackie's warrior and we know life is good and we know epicenter this by eat is really, really good and it's unfortunate that we're not going to get to see him in the breeders cup, but whether we think so we're not James the world does not revolve around us racing wise. No, it doesn't. And you know, obviously, I think if it was like more or Judd or maybe a dolphin, it might be like more of a decision, but, you know, William haggis, you know, he's been pretty clear. He's no interest in doing that. And like you said, I mean, he's been dominant. The only thing people can even say is, perhaps, question the competition, but just his turn of foot and just how awesome he is. And those performances are being so highly rated. So it's really something to look forward to. I think in his upcoming start in the English champion stakes in October, that should be a really good test. And as far as the breeders cup mile goes, you're right. I mean, sometimes you get you get space blue and you get like really talented Europeans come over for it. But other times, you know, it's uni and got stormy running one too and it does come up where American horses have a better chance because you don't have the depth of from Europe some years. No, and we are going to recognize some of the horses that are coming over for the breeders cup mile last year's breeders cup juvenile turf winner modern games who a lot of people did not get to bet on if you were wagering in this country is running well and is supposedly pointing for the breeders cup mile as well as several other European and I would assume Japanese based runners, but with buy not coming. That means like the yes of the world is not here or the goal to cover of the world or as you mentioned space blues or zills alley even though zille's Al didn't get the job done when he was here whatever that was 30 years ago. The big name runner from Europe is not coming over for that race. And it's not a last minute decision. They basically said it all along. The breeders cup was never in his plans, and he's running one more time in the British champion stakes in October. And then he's being retired. And there's a good chance that he's going to retire undefeated. All right, we're going to take another break. When we come back, we're going to look ahead towards some of the races this coming weekend. Phone lines remain open. Give us a call 888-966-4776 is the number to get in. This is Bobby Newman and James Scully on the brisnet dot com call in show. It's just a brisnet dot com call in show. The phone lines are
The Final Furlong Podcast
"william haggis" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"Well, another tough one, isn't it? Emma, you're really testing me this week. Everybody has been tested on this particular day. It's like, what? That's it. That's it. It's another competitive race. And yeah, we've got shorter runners, are we? Which is good to see. It makes a welcome change to proceedings and a competitive group sprint here, the best fair palace house stakes. As you say, twilight courses towards the head of the market. And this horse, a guild in front of Twilight sun is a consistent and progressive horse, obviously showed a lot of ability, last season, and arrived here on the back of a win 16 days ago. That was a nice tough performance there from this horse running in the colors of chiefly park stud. And you know, he would have to go well again, I would have thought. Conditions to suit him here. He's got the drawer 12 of the course and distance winner. Last time out. So he wasn't quite a well back favorite that day as well. So, you know, there's a good case to be made about him. You know, he's one of these typical horses that is kind of progressing up the ranks and then gets his shot at a at this level at this group three contest over 6. We know the distance suits. It's over 5, sorry. We know that he's a talented sprinter. And we know that the course suits him and yeah, like I said, there's plenty to like about his chances. Tis marvelous. Again, another consistent horse. Now 8 years old and we don't see many of them, do we? On the flat really, of course, he's a gelding. So connections or see keen to come back season after season with him. Again, he's been a good solid handicapper over the years and Clive Cox's team have been doing quite well this season already as well. So yeah, another one for the short list. Her Rick and iva, he won plenty of races, hasn't he? He's been terrific. Yeah, and the jockey Tom Mark and just get on extremely well with him. He just after he is a tricky sort of horse, you just have to, you know, make sure the race sort of falls right for him really. Come and put his late charge. So again, will it all sort of pan out for him on seasonal debut? I'm not really sure. Same thing we said for came from the dark. Has plenty of form with cutting the ground and is a manager Holly Doyle. But one thing about him is he does tend to run well fresh and he hasn't run for 301 days. So there's no concerns on that front for him. And yeah, he's pretty talented, so he could come into it if it all drops right. But I think that the recent form of Twilight calls is the point to note here. And yeah, I think you should be following up in this race over 5 furlong. So I'm getting a bit going on about my distances. He went over 5 Berlin's last time and this is 5 as well. So yeah, very smooth that day I thought made headway very tidally through the field and with a bit in hand. So that's encouraging, isn't it? To be fair, Melissa just gone from talking about horses running over four mile four. Over fences. To fight for a long sprint, I think you're allowed. I think you're allowed to readjust and I certainly for the Scottish national. Exactly. There you go. So we all need a period of readjustment. I think hurricane Iver is overpriced. And I think one of the reasons why is because of the fact that it's first time out, which I don't think should be too much of an issue for them. And that these type of ways. But you're getting close enough now to tense about them. He's drifted out to 9s and maybe the reason, I know he needed his first run last season, but bear in mind he was he was acclimatizing if you want to go for such a phrase from his career in France to settling into a new life with William haggis, and that would have been as a four year old. So he's learning the language as well. I mean, how tough is that. And he thought that new market, hurricane Ivan. He hasn't. He hasn't. But he has one on good ground. Newbury last year, he won on good to soft, he was a non runner on good to firm. It was a self start that day. I don't think it was unsuitable ground. Soft does not suit him and he was completely bogged down in the mud at Asgard at the end of the season when he was sent off three one joint favorite and maybe that's why he's drifting. That memory, the punctures have of he really let me down that day. When he was so well fancied behind his marvelous, I just think he's a better horse than that. And a mark of a 110. With the weight that he's carrying, it's not that far off. He's got a mark of a 110 is carrying 9 star 9 Twilight calls is coming 9 stone 6 of a mark of a hundred. So purely from a handicapping perspective, if you're going to go with Twilight goals, I'm not going to put you off by the way. I think toilet goals has got to be very, very big, very big chance. But that horse is 11 to four and hurricane Ivor's 9 to one so I'll take the lines about hurricane over final selection for you. Yeah, see your case about hurricane. It's just a doubt for me whether he can fire first time out, get the brakes and run in. And I think I just think Twilight calls. It's just that the manner of his victory last time was very taking, wasn't it? And with another smooth display, hopefully can come through with that withering run. And yeah, take them all on and be in front of the finish. Our.
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"william haggis" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"About right, I think, yeah? Yes. William Buick on board. First run for 567 days, but fitness would never be an issue from Charlie alpha boozy yard. 72 having been backed in from 5s colloquial report this morning. A lot of support also for roger variants or moving time. Harry Davis claims 7 pounds and he's 13 to two from 9s. And forest falcon for Charlie and Mark Johnston is 7s. Who is taking your fancy in the two 25? Well, you know, earlier on in the season, we like to mention the stables in form and of course, as you say, Emmett, Charlie Applebee's had a great start to the campaign, hasn't even Buick chasing that elusive first championship fingers crossed he can he can go really close in that this year because after such a bold show 12 months ago, it was great to see and hopefully can just get over the line in front this time. It's not easy is it having all those rides and continuing at such a rate banging in the winners as many as you can. And we count. And the hobby as we say. Reappears here off 567 day absence. So of course does have some nice form too his name, doesn't he? And I think he's definitely wanted to keep on side here. He was last seen in October 2020 when he put behind us as tardy start to finish third behind one ruler. And that was an on soft ground at newmarket in the group three autumn stakes. A nice race that was, you know, a couple of winners of come out of it. And you look at his you look at him here, the son of Franco. He's back in a handicap. Has plenty of weight off a mark of one O three, but he's still got planning potential now as a four year old. They've kept him in training, has Charlie applebees. They obviously think that there is a little bit more to come. And the way he shaped on that start, on his most recent start, all that time ago. Was that he could probably progress further from that, you know, like this is a little bit green, a bit more to come. So that break that we don't really know why he's been off, but that probably might have done him the world of good. And he's really interesting here. And yeah, I'd be siding with him. Of course, just face it a couple of interesting rivals in the shape of fast medicine. Trained by the chapel hi, I'm Kim hardy. And he's fit and fresh from a win 14 days ago. And the selection to Harvey he has to give him plenty of weight, doesn't he? But class horses can do that. And hoping he can hear really. And moving time another one with very talented young rider Harry Davis the board. He's he comes into the equation. The center for fastnet rock and again has an ad much racing and he won after an absence last season. So again, he's one to have on your side. As these forest falcon, who is a little bit in and out, it's fair to say, Mark Johnston's charge. Third last time out. But he's capable of popping up at a price, really. And you know, that run will probably just put the edge on him, of course they don't really like the fitness Johnston yard, but you know, a bit of match practice for him, the type of horse he is really could probably see him run a big race here as well. But yeah, it's just a hobby, the Applebee horse to edit for me really in this race. Yeah, I like his chances a lot. I think he's going to go off outright favorite in the end to have a because Charlie appleby could have an incredible Friday. The good old team has got a lot of forces entered for new market on Friday, including the likes of new kingdom nations pride, they've got ya beer who's going to be an action and yeah, a lot of very short priced favorites, essentially. And the way this race is looking, the fact that the Harvey hasn't been gelded is a good sign, because good old friend are not afraid to do that. He's a 3.1 million pound purchase and a half brother to golden horn. So they would obviously like to keep him intact, but they're not afraid to make those tough decisions if they feel that it has to be done. And I don't think you lack for fitness. And I think this is a fantastic opportunity for him. He missed last season due to injury and that might turn out to be a blessing in disguise. He's by frankl out of a Dubai destination mirror as I said. He's impeccably bred and I think you'll be one of the day for Charlie appleby. As we build closer, Charlie Applebee's big, big gun of the day, but not quite yet, because we've got the palace has 6 group three. Twilight calls for Henry candy, who's already had a positive mention on the show. What I call this is 11 to four currently with kaluki tis marvelous pushed out to fours, they've shoved come from the dark out to 5s for Holly Doyle and Ed walker. Hurricane Ivor, like what like for William haggis and Tom marquand has gone way out to 9s as probably because I backed him. And the saint Lawrence, who was running after a first time wind up for roger varian with James Dole on board. 16 to one, how.
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"william haggis" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"Punches down is still on, but we are very much focused on the flat and the classics Melissa Jones is here alongside his Melissa. Welcome back to the show. Hello, how are you? Alive, which is a good sign and congratulations on a very respectable finish in the naps championship. You rallied late a good season overall. Yeah, a little run on up at the end. Hoping to improve on that, obviously this time around. So yeah, not been in too bad form this week, so fingers crossed we can keep kicking along and pick up some points along the way. And you know that means that we're going to be picking up gravy as we talk about the Guinea's meeting. So we'll start with the one 50, which is live on racing TV and indeed on ITV. Hopefully that also includes virgin media islands. I have no idea. Asha is favored apologies John just I'm sure of just butchered the pronunciation of that. But did win on debut at red car for new trainer James Horton after the new facilities were built. PJ McDonald is on board and of course John is just got a very long-standing relationship with PJ. And he was on board last time as well. That horse is currently 7s with kaluki along with run to freedom for Henry candy, who's the same price to read for William haggis and Holly Doyle, 15 to two, black rod from Michael Dodds is 9s. And then we got John B yeah, let's go with that. Why not? Endorse that I was quite interested in bickerstaff 12s on his first start for roger teal. With Jason Watson on board, a full son of mason, who's now four. What was your thinking on the opening race that we're covering the one 50? Well, if you like your big field handicaps, this is the one for you. We go 21, 21 runners. Plenty of volume in there. And lots of horses to choose from aren't there. And a couple with really interesting form claims for the win here. And we must start off really with mentioning how well James Horton's string of started the season. I mean, what a brilliant start he's had. He's currently operating at a 50% strike rate for winners from 8 runners in the last fortnight. So well done to the team there. They've really are striking while the iron is hot and come into this race here, probably full of confidence with asjad, who well fancied in the market and of course was one of those opening winners for the team 12 days ago. It does have 5 pounds extra here to carry a mark of a hundred that the penalty here with PJ MacDonald in the plate. Clearly a very improving horse, this son of if. And did the did it really nicely beating woven at red car most recently? And yeah, he must go well again, I think. The only concern really for me is most of his form actually pretty much all of it has come on either good ground or slightly slower, and of course it is going to be fairly quick, isn't it, newmarket this weekend? The official official going right now to cut across you, sorry, Melissa is very rude. Is good. The racing in the center, which I'm happy about, because hopefully it means horses aren't going to get stuck in the rail, but yeah, officially right now the ground is good and the forecast seems decent as well. Yeah, that's it, isn't it? This time of year. I mean, normally we do get to some decent going, don't we at the guineas meeting and of course that brings out the horse's speed to the fore and we get some nice tidy performances down the dip and at the finish and yeah, like I said ask jad is a really nice horse to follow going forward, but in this particular race, just slightly ahead of him in the pecking order for me would probably be run to freedom, the amount of David probert here. He just took a lot of the boxes in the trends for this race. The last couple of winners over the past four years have been rated 97 or higher. He arrived here off 99, and there was a lot to like really, in his reappearance, run his fourth place there last time out. I think he can really relish this test. He just like a decent feel to race against he's been competing in some decent handicaps last season. And he was just a couple of lengths off double or bubble there in a group three. On seasonal reappearance. So made plenty of late headway, that new market and he was only half a length behind jumbo on that occasion. So obviously not much between those two horses. And yeah, like I said, there's plenty to like about Henry kandi to run it here. Of course he does meet a couple of interesting rivals, first folio. The amount of Daniel Muscat, black rod. And as you said, bicker stuff, another performer in handicaps. And Holly Joel's mount sharib is another lightly raced horse who comes into the equation. The only thoughts with him, perhaps he's slightly lower rated for a winner of this race, his case is only rated 83. And of course, last year's winner. Chill chill went on to be rated in the 100s lacerated 110 when last seen. So it does tend to fall to a performer towards the higher end of the rating. So here, and yet run to freedom would be the pick for me in this one. I think if there's, if you're going to try and swing for something at a bigger price, there's a couple of old favorites in here, some organ. Yeah. Look, you can't put anybody off, but at the same time, you just look at the last season's form and really started to tail off now. He's been out and me Dan and maybe the sun on his back out there has helped him but towards the end of last season he did tail off a little bit. Remember him popping up at a massive price. Yeah, new markets actually on the July course at 16s. And maybe it's just the case with him that he takes a little bit of actually did he. Did he win the prep race for this last year? Was that what he took to end last year? 15th of he definitely has his terms, doesn't he? He's just crack of a whole. Oh, you'd love to own him. 342,000 in prize money, he sell it as a rock. But he just doesn't. And in the last April, group three, obviously that's what he saw between the two, doesn't he?.
The Final Furlong Podcast
"william haggis" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"Went close with having a first time wind up. Run after the first time window. But the gilded sun was often making the move from William haggis. Scuppers the William haggis gamble who never really fired at all, never really looked like winning. No, as well positioned. Much to bob, but he didn't pick up when I saw him end up finishing 12th. There was also quite a lot of money around for amethyst. The height of second stream across Ryan on board we finished last of all. So up and down, I did have a winner on the tongue. William hygge, but I remember him saying this time last year that his horses were slower to come behind than he expected. So maybe try a little bit carefully with him because it was very positive about. Both amateurs and mushed about coming into this and it was a more exposed Irish animal he's run very well. Interesting thing about this race mushroom I was drawn to for the first 5 former John installs one three four and 5. Including the right side of Brooklyn spear. So there seemed to be there seemed to be a draw bias. And indeed, if you're looking at the first 7 home, 6 of the first 7 came from single figure stars. So it definitely wasn't fun to be drawn. Low. That's where the speed was really in the wrist fundamentally. There was there was lone speed high. But we discussed that in the preview and we're saying that it wasn't easy to work out whether you would get much at all through the race from release time very in tonight and had changed tables, didn't get to the front, as well beaten the only B one in the end. So it was difficult for the horses to draw on high, which means that the horse you have to take from this risk group that could handle at the start, he ended up on the wrong side of the track. And I'm way off the pace, and he's kept on really strongly in the last couple of photons to finish third. Things could hardly have gone worse for him than the rest. His only more strong high to have finished in the first 7 in this contest. Brunch, it was pleased last year. Run, run well from saw 14 to be it. But yeah, to finish where we did so 19 is a really good performance from road back. He finished last season by winning and then dead heating and not over the last two stars. Clearly progressed at the back end of his three year old seasons from a family that do well with the age as well. So he's going to do well. If you're looking for something to faculty in the spring mile, it's been cut rather, I should say, at newbury. Then Rupert probably the one two to take from the race. But yeah, Johan, listen, he was a big part. You could have asked him about four days in the morning. SP was 28 to one. You get an impression of if you hadn't changed table, you had this all William hypers thing here, three recently found supporters in the rent. New hammer just left an people automatically turn away from a horse like that. But it's obviously one handicaps of marston high 90s before. So a pretty classy sort of horses just fall short of grip free standard. Is well suited by these big field handicaps. It's best formal, starting out from big Shannon. I don't think a lot of people just overlooked him because he was not sexy enough. But the other form there to go vitals. He's not nice. And it was a non runner in last year's race for William haggis. So great to see Mick Shannon back in the big time. Great for Sylvester. I thought his speech afterwards was, it just, it was quite powerful. It's clearly upset. That he's not got the support of king power anymore, but it's probably going to be better for him in the long run. He's a fantastic job. He's done well financially out of retainers with adults and king park, the good old one didn't work particularly well for me. He was largely out of favor. But obviously, you know, having that financial security is enormously important as well. And he's done very well by his family. And he's a pretty solid guy from everything you see about us. It's hard to begrudge him victory. And his only, I was told a couple of years ago, he's not particularly popular with other jockeys. Yeah, I've heard that. I'd almost take that. I'd almost take that as a positive. I would too. I've heard it about enough for that job. As well. I think he's, you know, as I said, I think the issue there is that these, they think he's goody two shoes. And if you're a punter and other job you say, this to Susie is far too straight for something good. Then you think I'll do me quite frankly. You know, there is that kind of we talked about the camaraderie of the jockeys room and the positive and negatives of that. You know, if you want to do things you're away, but then you're doing things positively. Then I thought it doesn't fit in with everyone else's idea of how you should be here. That's absolutely fine. And listen, he keeps winning big handicaps and he keeps winning big greater races as well, but the amount of.
The Final Furlong Podcast
"william haggis" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"Up the pros and cons and deciding what price you're willing to get involved in. There are a lot of these risks that end up for me know bad races because when you're dealing with horses, you've seen three or four times. In recent weeks or months, you can make a pretty good decision about what you think they're currently capable of. Whereas when you're talking about horses that have been seen this season and who may or may not have progressed in the meantime, very hard to make decisions about their current level of ability. As I said, well, I'm not that keen to buy the favorite lids or 11. I'm similarly not absolutely sold on black and white. She's got a fair number of clients to find. I had a 130 year olds change in mind based on that all market support there. Which is not something I'm massively keen on normally, but you have to look to the science either of physical progression, if you've seen the watches of the fashion last year and you get to see them again. That's a big deal. Or if you think the favorite might like fitness on the day, it's very difficult to call out at the moment. So for me, I've been living alone. I might go to one or two things that could sway me into having that on the day. But at the stage is difficult. A 100% agree. World champion, I'll put up just because I think he's too big a price and it's the start of the season in a 4Runner field. All right, William haggis likes to target the Lincoln. Godolphin liked to target the Lincoln, particularly in recent seasons. And they've both done that and they've both.
The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"william haggis" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"Disappointing an Olympic legend left. Welcome back to the weekend stakes preview presented by naira bets. This is your host Jude felt and I'm joined with bob nista novich and we're going over these races. We're going to take a trip to sadia Arabia for the Saudi cup in this next segment. We've got four stakes that we're going to cover from there. The 1351 turf sprint the Red Sea turf handicap, the Saudi Derby and the Riyadh dirt sprint, and then in the last segment of the day, we'll talk about the Saudi cup. So bob, the turf sprint is the second race on the card, the 1351 turf sprint. This race carries a purse of a million $500,000 and it's for northern hemisphere bred four year olds and up in southern hemisphere bred three year olds in it. Yeah, the big news really coming out of Saudi Arabia today is one of the most celebrated for people that like to bet jockeys and follow jockeys, jockey fans. One of the most outstanding writers in the world, William Buick who, of course, won three breeders cup races last year for godolphin. Was about to get on the flight to go to Saudi Arabia at a load of live mounts all over this card at Riyadh tomorrow morning. And this race in particular actually kind of kicks things off on the American coverage at 8 25 Eastern Time. In fact, Buick one looked this race last year on space blues who won the breeders cup mile, but William Buick will not be riding tomorrow. He tested COVID positive, so he did not get on the plane, which is good news for mister James Doyle and Frankie to torr you're going to pick up a lot of what would have been his outstanding business on that card. This race is really interesting at 7 for a long since there's a lot of 5 and 6 for a long time facing a lot of Myers. Cossa creed is in here representing the U.S. connections, of course, Bill Mont Louis syes. I think they'll take a lot of it. There's a long shot sort of catches my eye. It was trained all last season by William haggis. Who also has runners on this card and he also will not be making the trip because he also tested positive for COVID this morning. There's a horse that was purchased by Saudi interest from his stable called cold front who's currently 40 to one in the UK wagering who is a horse that I followed last year's no slouch and he could rock the board here at a massive price. But I'm actually leaning towards with my selection. One of my favorite horses kind of stretched his legs in his last start in a prep over the all weather at done dock in Ireland at C 11 horse thunder moon. Who just missed in the group one pre Jean Pratt last summer in France. He's going to pick up Kristoff sue me on for this attempt and I think he's a proper 7 for a long horse. He won a group one going 7 for a long since a two year old and I think that trainer Joseph O'Brien has him absolutely ready for his best with a little prep race under his belt. I think thunder moon and an attractive price currently in the neighborhood of about ten to one has a big shot in the 1351 turf sprint. Yeah, just for Brian does a great job and I looked at that horse a long time, I think he's got a chance. I was drawn to naval crown. That was William Buick was supposed to ride for Charlie appleby. Charlie's been very good to me. In the last 365 days, he's been a tour de force as they say it's been pretty remarkable. Yeah, I was able to pick up on that early and it's been a good thing. So I'm a naval crown fan. And I also like songline. A horse from Japan who ran an in characteristically lousy race last time out Christmas Day in Japan, but has good form before that has a good racing post rating. Maybe not the best post, but I think the horse has a shot. And Japanese horses are a force. And I promise myself after the breeder skep that I would pay more attention to the Japanese. After watching two of them win, one of the huge prices. I loves only you as kind of a pretty decent price too. Yeah. So it's something that we really need to pay better attention to. Absolutely get the third race is the Red Sea turf handicap. And this is a mile in 7 8. I have over she's like around a mile and 7 eighths. He won the Oslo Visa twice back to back years. Who did you fancy in this race? We were talking yesterday briefly about weight carrying horses and the one worsen here sunny boy listed who, of course, is trained by the great former chalk Johnny murtaugh. Who American racing fans to be familiar with for winning the breeders cup turf on Kalani in the breeders cup mile and ridgewood pearl in addition to his European exploits. He's been an outstanding trainer for years. Sonny boy liston's going to carry a 137 pounds for a mile in 7 furlongs in here. This is actually a handicap race and he won one of Europe's most valuable handicap races last August that you work via tote you were handicapped going a mile and three quarters. Then he parlayed that race with a winning effort in the group one Irish saint ledger. So he definitely has the class, the two princess Zoe actually wants further than a mile in 7 furlongs and she prefers a soft surface. So I think she's a play against today. There's two horses at pretty handsome prices that I like and hear. I like the very consistent nayef road. I think Andrea Zane is an excellent booking for Mark Johnston and his son Charlie and I expect him to run very well on or near the lead and then my selection is a French horse who's by lahav out of a singspiel mayor, the number 11 glycon or gleeson I'm not sure if you pronounce it like a French word or an English word. Trained in France by Jean Claude rouge, written by Christian demuro, very consistent horse lahav recently died. It was a top stallion in France and a much loved stallion in France. He recently passed away sadly. This was one of the better horses of the late latter period of his career. He's a proper stay. He's been running a lot of races on surfaces with too much given the ground to release suit him and still running well. I think the quicker surface in Riyadh will help him tomorrow. I think the distances and ideal and I think hope he'll probably be in the neighborhood of about ten to one. So I like the 11 glycon. All right. Well, I was looking at another Applebee. He actually has my top marathon figuring that's the number 9 scanning. He was also going to be ridden by Buick. So not only did Buick catching COVID hurt Buick, but it didn't help me. And I still think that horse has a big shot. You can see the Doyle's if James Doyle, of course, use the brother of U.S. based shocke Sophie Doyle. He's ridden Cisco a lot. And well, including his last one in the list of beta. They're both.
The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"william haggis" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"Her over to a filled motto. I don't know flavian Pratt's been on her in the morning, but he's getting honored this afternoon, and I think that she has some upside I think she could improve a really like her stud velardo as his name on a cape cross marriage really sort of a delightful pedigree. I think she could be a rising starlet in the domato barn. I expect a big run from Bella bell, the 6 horse. All right, so we're gonna both go with Phil d'amato. I did not get creative. I think Helen's well will have enough pace to run out with the likes of mim June and shopping for pharaoh in the race. I think the pace will be solid. Helens well will have targets and will come running. Bob going with number 6 Bella bell, our selections in the blue northern race 8 Sunday at Santa Anita. Let's jump ahead to the tenth race on the San Anita card, the $100,000 Eddie Logan, three year olds mile on the turf field of ten and Jonathan Wong's got a couple of impressive runners from up in Northern California in Boise and unreal. Yeah, I actually I'm going to stick with the same theme here. I took a first time Euro shipper here as well. I like maglev, who's an Irish bread who is trained in new market by William haggis. Ran some very competitive races all with Tom marquin up. I'm a big fan of this stallion Galileo gold, who won the 2000 guineas had a really wonderful year at stud. This horse is working sharply. Umberto rispoli takes them out for Mark glad. I think you had a pretty nice price on maglev and I expected a very good run expect him to be on the board with a good chance to win the race. All right, coming out of a group two effort last time out where he was only beaten a little over two lengths, maglev bob's top selection. I'm going to use maglev as well. I'm afraid for everything you said. I'm going to also use both of the Jonathan Wong trainees, Boise and unreal Boise he's going to be my top choice a lot because that flavian Pratt is aboard. And a flavian Pratt is riding this horse. I'm going to take a second look. He's run well, sprinting on the turf, routing on the turf and routing on synthetic. He gets back to the turf. He's already a steak winner, and he's another one who I think will be able to close and what should be a decent pace in this race. So Boise for me, maglev for bob in the Eddie Logan race ten on the Sunday card at San Anita. All 14 races are in the books. It's time now for the Nairobi's.
The Final Furlong Podcast
"william haggis" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"We've done quite well for what should be the same as well. And yeah, it's an online training fantastic supporter of racing. Race will be lost people like him. Big time. And unfortunately, we are learning that as the years go on, but what a legend and he's also incredibly generous limerick, are currently dominating our national sport, my counties, sport, kilkenny, where I'm recording from cork, which has a deep passion for hurling as well, but kilkenny dominated. And now the limerick are the ones doing it. And it's basically a JP's backing. He just pumped so much money and it's great because it's an amateur sport. They don't get anything for it. Players get injured. They have to work. And have regular lives. I got a hurdle. Wouldn't be for me. I got a hurl snapped off my chest one day. I said beforehand that I'm asthmatic when I was a kid. So that was it. My mother pulled me right out of him and was like, you are never playing her. Again, that's the end of that. You can play football you're not planned early. On brugada. Yeah. He did well last season. Ran over hurdles the other day. He is Tudor on this weekend? How could I have known? He's either on a entry two and a half mile chase soft ground suit in very well, schooled nicely this morning, so yeah, he's high enough in the weights, now he's might not be an easy horse to win with, but saying that we hope you'll be competitive. An unusual one in the ex French train whose only just joined you. So the last time this horse ran YSA, it's unusual is that the horse is 9. The last time the horse arrived in France was in September, has just come to you. Fine race on debut. What was the thought process in the horse making the transfer over at this age? The losses that we are. Yes, we are also. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he ran very well at the I had a bit of class. He picked up a leg injury in France, but Judith Wilson had sourced him from a claiming race and thought it was worth taking a pump with and as I say around very well on this theft and his due to running the beach on Saturday. No, wait, not another horse running this weekend. Another one, yeah. Whether he wants three mile three, we'll see probably on his running in the session. You probably love to drop him back in, but the owners are keen to run him on Saturday. So we'll let him take his chance and see what happens. I suppose Saturday is then a guide to whether or not you go for the Welsh national, which is also entered in. But in your mind, your doubtful whether or not he actually wants that trip. Well, he was a strong traveler in the session. He looked as if he probably didn't quite see the trip out. But we'll say. And the 7 did show when he finished fourth he's settled in very well upon house and adapted very well to racing in the UK because it's not always easy for a French horse with the rhythm of their races to adapt to the rhythm of British racing, but he already has. So that's fantastic. So finally, a couple of horses for the future and I'll let you get on with your life. Titan is the first one that comes to mind because Paul and I have spoken about this. Well, apparently it's called Titian. What? Apparently. Okay. Well, I'm not going to argue with Michael Buckley. If he says it, that's fair enough. If Raj out of a high Chaparral bear, so I'm already in love with this horse. Yeah, we bought from the newmarket sales schedule school in this morning. He may go and choose a cheltenham doncaster next weekend. Decent level form on the flat. And hopefully we'll have some more fun on the flat as well with him, but nice addition to the yard. And yeah, you know, he goes nicely at the galaxy as you would expect from a mile and a half horse. So we bought him and khaleesi as well. They finished first and second in that last race at doncaster. Both horses might be out next weekend. Khaleesi ran for William haggis is by horizontal, of course, was partnered by the late great pat Mueller in front of the show. Fantastic that cycle was done in his honor. So both horses, we could see at the weekend. And what kind of horses are they different? Are they similar? Yeah, very different khaleesi smaller, a bit of a bit of a terrier where Titian looks like he might have a bit more class about him a bit more leggy, but we'll see. They both, they both have scored nicely at home, as I say they've got a decent level form on the flat. As you know, getting these three year olds is difficult. They've got form and soft ground. Excited about both of them. Exceptionally difficult, particularly in these circumstances when you've got China and Australia. Well, I should say Hong Kong and Australia and America wanting these middle distances as well. So the fact that you've managed to get not one but two is fantastic. X French master blaze, one his only run in France as a three year old..
The Final Furlong Podcast
"william haggis" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"Massively, there will be an awful lot of trends gurus, though, who will be saying now with John and teddy Gaston, they just can't train winners on champions. They jeez they came close. They came real close. Okay. In the words of Al Pacino, of any given Sunday. Since we need. Are all around us. One step too far, you don't quite catch it. One step up. You don't quite make it. Great. Great monologue. Watch it. Al Pacino, any given Sunday speech, YouTube, do yourself a favor. And it was a matter of inches for 30,000 because that was literally what made the difference between them and the winners enclosure. But for William haggis, great day for him. And I thought was terrific and a fantastic day for Jim Crowley. Writing a treble on the day on champions day, that's an extraordinary achievement in itself. The globe form. And he has served shake hand down to start this show well now extremely well. I do hope that there are some remnants of the operation for change to see what with next year. Also reminder, you mentioned trailer with a haggis there. Just how good he is at placing a horses. If he's got a group one horse, he knows it's a group one horse he won't run it in a group one unless he feels that it's capable of winning. It's not just there to make up the numbers. And if he thinks his horse is a handicapper, it will stick to handicaps. And he's not going to chuck it in somewhere and I hope that it might suddenly turn out to be a group to all group three or 6. He's very aware of the quality of the horses in his stable. And he was rewarded to with those two wins on Saturday one in group one and one of the big handicap. And I think he has been over the last 30 years. One of the most reliable trainers in Britain at seeking out the right opportunities for his horses and making the most of them. And he did it again on Saturday. Couldn't agree with you more. Who was your star of champions day? My star, the very good question, because it was a pretty good day's racing, wasn't it? There was a lot of talk of fire about always going to be on soft ground is the racing at quite as relevant as it would be if it had been held in June or July, so meeting up too late. But actually, I think, yeah, we had a couple of surprises, but I wouldn't say that any of the winners here seem a way a shot of a big prices, but said they would by any means the kind of forces where you say, oh, that's when you look into it. You can actually see why they want. It's just basically the final front of podcast. We train baby. I think I'd have to go for it with next year in mind. Because he's a horse who's gone so quickly up through the ranks this year. And he got there. You know, so often there's a lot of talk isn't there about this horse starting low ish and then rapid improvement during the summer. And yes, it's going to be one of the best sources of alert. And when they get into a group one level, they fall at the last so to speak. But in the case of not only did he win, but he also beat one of the best smiles that we've seen in recent years. So I'll give it a bite. I would agree with you for the exact reasons that you have laid out honorable mention to seal away who I think is exciting for next season. But to me, it's very much about and I can't wait to see him next year. The day after champions day you would like to think that the back pages are going to be talking about the redemption of oshii Murphy and he's won his third consecutive jockeys championship and look at the excitement that racing has in baid. But instead we get this story from The Sunday Times. But the excellent David Walsh, where the only way the David can have got his hands on this, and this is the briny frost and. Robbie dun case. The only way. A brilliant journalist like him can have got his hands on this article and on the data and on the information that he has is that it was leaked. And it can't have been leaked by one of the jockeys, it has to have been leaked by somebody who in some way has an affiliation, I'll say, allegedly, because that word is your friend, to the BHA. Whether that's somebody who wants worked there or still does. But either way, this is a pretty scathing it's a scathing indictment that it's taken so long. I know that there are legal loopholes that the BHA have to jump through and maybe that's the reason why. But reading that article in The Sunday Times by again by David Walsh.