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"wilco" Discussed on The Cycling Podcast
"Hook a lot not to cry because you're just not used to seeing that kind of violence on the body in real life especially you know we all try to be objective journalists. We all try to be good at our jobs and not get too attached but when you spend five months writing about somebody and you spend time talking to them and having like what it could be considered intimate conversations you know and you see them in the flash for like the real time in the for the first time and then they come to the finish line just like completely broken. It's like. I mean that's just a testament to how green i am smyth. I bike race for sending anything. Richard and francoise. They've been doing this for decades now and for them. It's different but for me. It's all very new. And you know. Maybe i made the mistake of feeling too much which i think is a very human thing to do you know and it's not just it's just i mean it's a cruel and brutal sport and it's not. It's not just me jack. Hey today was doing so well and you know pay us again and caleb you at the end just like how just gnarly in brutal in terrible and two so visceral lied to see. I mean i couldn't imagine being on the last sitting standing there in the barriers in the last five hundred meters in watching it hat watching caleb again go down. I don't know if i just can't imagine what there's like a trauma to it. I mean it's kind of traumatizing and you can see the trauma in their eyes when they roll in even the guys who didn't get involved like you can see like i watched wilco kelderman right in and i've talked to him a couple of times already and he had like a. He looked he'd like years had been taken off of him. I mean it's just sometimes you're like this is sport is life in. You have to toughen up. You have to get on with it. You can't sit here and your hotel room and be upset about it but the thing is just because it's the first time and you know it's one thing to watch them like when like we saw they wrecked on the first age and i watched them come in on the first stage not to the finish but like up to the final climb but watching them role in enroll to a stop and like knowing that their races over. I.
"wilco" Discussed on The Cycling Podcast
"He used to race and his parents were touring cyclists who wants by across america. And we were about to from baltimore to chicago. They had some triathlete friends who were downsizing and gave him some bikes which they then gave to us one of these vices of survey time trial by a p three model dating around two thousand three. This mike fit me. And i was taken with it. It looks fast ending still. It was an object of desire. An object of speed. Which i was and i'm still not worthy of. I never had a nice bike before. I didn't even learn how write a by until i was a teenager. Because in southern pines the once rural town i grew up in there was no reason to in college had a series of one hundred dollars craigslist bikes each of which got stolen. after rousing after winning maryland crab in drinking maryland beer. We all decided in the ninety degree weather with ninety percent humidity to write our new bikes. I'm going to two blocks. Didn't know how to shift because the shift were in the arab ours died of a hill penalty. Bus back in shame sat on the porch and through the habits to monies. I told myself. I have to get good sideline. I am going to be good at cycling in chicago. There was actual cycling infrastructure. And one of the first things me and my husband did after move was right bikes mostly because we didn't have our stuff yet in so riding bikes on the things we could do. I ended up buying a beater by a twenty year old bianchi volpe in order to get groceries with panners design on thrive. I'd always wanted to be on tv. Because the red bianchi fixed gear high remain grasp will have was the first market. Ever seen anybody go. Damn that is sick bike anyway. Nin stephen one my husband would start out with four miles than eight then. Twenty then thirty five then eventually sixty which is about one hundred kilometers being a writer in architecture critic for the five years my body was simply that for my brain until i started cycling cycling. They realized that my body could be useful for things that i could be valued for something other than its attractiveness to other people. I could be strong instead of beautiful which was liberating. It was during this period that i decided to watch the tour de france again. Why it because. I was cycling. Two hundred kilometers a week and it was a pandemic in work has led for the first time in my life. I had the spare time to watch five hour bike. Races segue is a writers for in unfroze within a number of different narrative skills from a single climb to three grand tour. Is the story of man vs sell versus man versus nature versus machine versus society. Every literary trope every type of character can be found cycling. It's underdogs it's hartman. It's heroes villains. It's tragic figures noble in valiant labor's whose efforts make the whole thing come together as architectural person have cycling architecture and landscaping urbanism. Very easy to write about. The transition was natural. I my first essay a piece. About why premiums. Rogers toured. France loss felt so devastating on medium in september. Twenty twenty got picked up by vice magazine which ran if their online rumour for them including covering the first ever. Ucla role these championships. I polish a seven part series on the twenty twenty world championship shipments road race on medium and of newsletter derail or in january twenty twenty one in order to do similar long form narrative analysis bike racing in february bicycling assigned me to profile raj a piece which took me five months in march proper transition from a fan of the sport to someone who writes about it for a living which i now almost entirely fulltime. This is kind of a wild story. I realize now that. I'm sitting here on hotel. Room in breasts prepared to couple of the tour de france is correspondent for pro cycling maxine but is a true story nonetheless anyways back to packing either knew what when wardrobe by risen journalists in architecture. Journalists are expected to dress like architects wearing like black socks and chunky shoes. Generally expensive clothes from places. Like ever leaning aisling fisher. When i found out i could wear dot barnes and t shirts in the mic zone. I'll tell you. I flew brother liberated. I packed meticulously about as meticulously as one could. However i've made a mistake. I didn't bring a suitcase. Because i thought caught her up the car and supposed to be sharing the folks of the cycling podcasts recycled weekly depending on the day so brought a duffel bag instead. That duffel bag is heavy as hell. And i have to carry it on my back in addition to the backpack. I brought my laptop in. I learned this by walking the miles on the breast transition to my airbnb yesterday. At first i didn't know i was going to be a correspondent.
Is Email Marketing Right For Me?
"Now you might be listening to this and thinking. Should i even be doing this. E mail marketing thing. Like will this work for me. Will this work for for my business. Or i don't have a less than for. I can't do email marketing wilco. That in a minute and like you know you might just think. I'm ashley i'll be doing this. Will this work for me. Is it worth the effort. Is it worth the time. Is it worth gain to see. It can be quite intimidate enough supposed like if that point twentieth thinking right of maybe we listened to the show for a while or been reading up a while this first episode but it can be intimidating to thank everybody else. I mean we've done this with other things like everybody else's ahead of the game or i see everybody else doing it but whatever it worked for me. My businesses different good thing is all of our businesses are different. That's great and we will have to do things. And it's not way but the big thing we've got to remember is every body us you. The people who've got gillian subscribers. Every single one of us had a very special day when we got subscriber number one of course at the end of the day you end up sitting there going. I get subscriber number two or will it. Just be me mom listening to me emails. So the good news is everybody does start off with suitable. And that's a really humbling thing. Think about that. Every body the bigger is the people. You really respect even us. We got subscriber number one. One day that happened to that person there was a day when they cracked open a brand new active campaign accounts something convert it whatever and they got their first subscriber and the good news is the sooner you do it. The sooner you can get your second one. But you can't get your second one in the sounds bad but you can't get your second subscriber until your first one so quickstart. Let's get on with it. Let's do it New point is the heavens going to open in the list. Ferry is going to come down and give you a list of people so you don't expect and don't want to just like start your business and go right. I'm going to go hundred subscribers day. One and then i'm gonna crack on from that because it's not gonna happen. You're going to get one and then you're going to get a second kennedy said and the good news is as we said before thought person. The first subscriber doesn't know that subscriber number one. They don't know that you don't have a list of a billion people because you don't tell them and of course it's not like instagram. Or if you've only got three follow us. They know they don't know you. You'll only subscriber. That's a really good place to start right. This is a really really powerful position for you to be. What's really interesting is one of the big things. I remember in mark one. When i was first learning to read response email marketing one of the things that they used to hop on about all the time in all those big causes by john kennedy and all the other big people they used to talk about. You've got to write an email as if you're sending it to one person so when the person receives it they're reading it as if it's a one on one intimate conversation you don't want to start him off with hi guys. Everyone's doing this. But what do you mean. I am not guys. I am not guys that that's wrong. So actually you're gonna remember we. These emails must feel like a one communication. No you're not going to fake it. You don't going to pretend they all want a one. Communications obviously going to be legit and above board with it all. But they've got to feel like the communication sue. The best way to do that. Get you. I Let's get that off the table to begin with so nobody knows about the first subscriber you can you can crack on the thing is every single type of business no matter. What kind of business. You've got your customers your followers your audience your ideal perfect customer. Who's going to stick with you forever or or spend the most with you or you're going to enjoy working with the most. They've all got email addresses because you can't have an instagram account or a facebook account or anything out without have an email address. He can't so everyone's got an email address. That's good news your customer whether you're dealing with people who are older people who are middle age or people who are like if you're dealing with kids most kids these days full school stuff need to need to have an email address so one of the thirteen thirty or three hundred years old. They have an email address. Everyone has an email address. in fact. yeah. I think this is really interesting. You know if you look different businesses so maybe teach scuba diving. Maybe you teach Health and fitness. Whatever it is if you look different niches you'll often find people say well my audience really hang out on this platform a mile audience. Really hang on this phone for example. If you're selling wedding dresses than one of the best places that you could be is going to be pinterest. Probably pinterest instagram. The wet selling light wedding dresses and bridal stuff and if you saw interior design same saw a deal but if you're selling something that's more corporate you probably want to going to be on linked probably gonna be a maybe facebook as well and so people always talk about. Where is my audience. I'll tell you where all those people are. Email one hundred percent of them like it's not like a pig tiktok or instagram. Like the oled that so. If you want to know what your audience's email good thank you. Let's face those social media platforms. Send emails all the time. The first thing that happens when you first lineup lasagna cooed. by email to verify. That's your email address. They do that because i have them. Having their email address is really important because every time somebody talks you in a photograph sends you a message. People send you a facebook message and facebook email to tell you got a facebook
Metaflow: Netflix Machine Learning Platform with Savin Goyal
"Brings us to aws flicks took the at the time unconventional decision to go all in on aws many years ago at this point, and that's treated. Netflix's really well, because it's almost, it's almost like. The the whole idea around blessed programming languages where you make a strong decision within an organization to restrict the number of programming languages with an organization and it it that constraint ends up helping the organization make decisions more quickly and allow for engineering mobility and so on. This is the case. This has been the case with aws when when Netflix? Strongly moved onto aws and continue to do that. That extends to medfly show. A better flow is an open source framework, but it has a tight coupling with aws. So why is the tight coupling to aws useful for machine learning framework? Sue I won't say that. We are tightly coupled to eight of us. So when leave it open sourcing MEDOFF. No at that point in time, because we had a good amount of operational expertise with aws, we chose indicating the details are ready for this cloud integration, but the architecture of Meta flow. Is Very much vendor agnostic, so the already have people who have ported Netflix will on top of Google cloud for example. So see I wanNA. Make sure that at the end of the day. The end user are data scientists decent to worry about any of the concerns that are introduced by using it us, Rg are. Is You're in the? Cloud windows to them. They're just writing code in an idiomatic language whether it's Biton are are, and the metaphor takes care of actually understanding the code and orchestrating that on top of the AWS RG CPU or any of the other. Providers. So so yet, so that's that's a strategy that we have been falling. We started views because that's what the US internally ethnic flex. That's what we have worst amount of experience and expertise in, but. There are people who have made it. Look at JCP, and going forward as well. It's something that's on our road, not to have a more and more indications. Appointed comparison to Meta flow might be airflow the distributed workflow scheduling system that's often used for data engineering jobs. How does medfly compare to airflow? So air is what you would come as production creates getting her in the sense that you have your email pipeline, and now you want your pipeline to run autonomously, say and all. At the stroke of Midnight Day are win some. Deed is available. That pipeline should be triggered so once once you've. Created your etl pipeline, and you're happy with how it's running at that point in time it makes sense to ported to an ear flu, or see it functions Louici for example. But. What is severely lacking in some of these two? Is the local expedients to on my laptop. I WANNA. Make sure that my workflow runs both Akil, and then I should be able to deploy it and that sort of what we can. Refer to as a traditional using this workflow on top of. Airflow audited list of functions so now met up. You has this notion of a dag and bundles in a local scheduler so menu writing your Code Medoff on your laptop at that point in time, medoff Lewis local killer may be responsible for executing your code, executing the nodes of the DAG, and you can mix and match. You can certainly talk the Dag run on your laptop to notice run. Run on the cloud with specific resources that you have already specified, and then once you're happy with the injury execution off your workflow than at that point in time, metaphor allows you to compile your dad into a specification that one of these production understand so as a matter of fact in early July, we are going to release our integration, but it of just approaches, which is production skater. Available in eight of us and you can take your workflow and this one commingling argument you can deploy on of aws. Step functions now step functions like some of the. Nice things about it is, it's a highly available Dag Scheduler, and it allows Florida running workflows, which can span a year as will end. The operation footprint is really monitoring, so you get like really nice quantities when Saginaw you're running on one of these stretching rates, lives and internally at net flicks. We chose to build one. Ourselves Sets Meson and Dorado. Bunch of talks online on specific infrastructure as well as the architecture needs on that front. and. Our internal users what they do is they invite Medoff workflow in this bag, and then just one single come online argument. They're able to export that as a means on woke view and this me, saen executor's slash schooler has a good amount of fetuses it around see how do unloading how to trigger events and other wilco finish resume. Your will close. You can sit a variety of triggers based on time the on what so you get like. All those nice features it when you're on top of one of these production rates get loose, and then you also get all the lineage tracking, and the deduc would and environments not shutting using Medicare. And do our end. Users now don't really have to consume themselves with a standing the programming model that means on provides our understanding the program model that Ilias Conscience provides. They just ride their coordinate in then metaphor takes care of interfacing in your of these productions units so now coming back to the question that you had around comparing metal fluid airflow I would say that these are ready to talking to products, and they're not competing against one another on the country they are. Supposed to work well with one another, so the situation would be back. You use metaphor your local prototyping, and once you're happy with the results then at that point in tiny convincingly just export of workflow onto their.
"wilco" Discussed on Talkhouse Podcast
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"wilco" Discussed on Talkhouse Podcast
"Joke because it's absurd but sometimes I'll just tell I don't know I'm going to take some workshop. Classes in Venice is. I don't know where actors go to learn their trade I e. Yeah that's A. Where'd you learn how to out? You're do group here right. Yeah Yeah but is it. Is it more than a joke or is it like why keep coming up? You know the reason I say that is because every every time I've been invited to be a part of that world like I'm friends with Fred armistice so I was invited to be on Portland Yeah a few times and I was invited to be on parks and REC and and I've I've really just enjoyed that environment. It's a cool environment I it's like. It's probably how you would feel if you were invited to be in a band. It's a nice environment that a lot of creative people doing something they enjoy doing. And that's that's a real privilege to get to be a part of something like that. So yes since since. I've had those experiences. I have tried to get more but my real isn't particularly persuasive. Still still look like peewee. Herman working as a Bellhop in Beijing. Mr Miller s what I feel like my scenes. Look no I think. I think you have a budding comedy career. I hope so really. Okay I'M GONNA I'M GONNA moving into audience questions but before I do. Is there anything I really missed? Obviously in great detail about music and torturing and you're the the whole history. Is there anything that I missed that? You're like we gotta talk about that. No I don't I don't know what you're all doing here. I don't know I'm honest about well. Thank you for coming but I feel pretty confident that I put things in the book. That would be interesting if I was able to sit down with someone who cared about my career but this is only the second one of these. I've done you've done a whole bunch of events so this is a specific type of event. That's very new to be so. I'm trying to get a good read on what it's very hard to tell. I just got off of a week of doing these. You can't really tell but I selfishly asked you questions that I thought were really interesting. It's very rare to get get one on. One here knows great. I I enjoyed enjoyed our talk. Join our talk to you all right. Let's see what what you guys say. This reminds me a little bit of the band. Tweety when we were on tour in the Netherlands we played. We played one of the worst things anyone's ever ever invented. This reminds you of that. This reminds Yeah Kuku Kuku WanNa get no let me finish. This is this is. This reminds me of it. It's not as bad as great as it was a and music festival so we went on after a poet head read to an audience for about thirty minutes and so by the time we came out to play. The audience has was really not amped up. They have been. They have been amped down and so every after every song it was like like. You just sank a nice putts smattering of applause. And at the end of the show I said well thanks for coming out. I'm going to be real honest with you. You've been a very difficult audience. Somebody what did you expect with Dutch? That's what you WANNA be fucking known for being withholding anyway. This is so much better than again. Started off real serious here. Hey Jeff these your ideal breakfast Barry. This berries question I don't eat a lot of breakfast to be honest I get up in the morning. I Dunno cold pizza. Probably that's pretty gross. But I've eat I can't eat. I can't eat cereal anymore. If I eat cereal I have a hypoglycemic attack by the by about three o'clock in the afternoon and is like a am I wrong but it was marketed as a healthy breakfast for so long and now that we know it's not I haven't bought it in years because I'm like this is bad news evening chips for breakfast even the healthy cereals even the ones that are like supposed to be good for you or they still try and convince you. They're good for you. Yeah I feel like Shit. I just can't do it so it is the best because I'm super health conscious. All right here we go our first and only interesting when our first and only child is arriving in less than a month wilco slash tweety song. Should we him on his first night home from the hospital? Thanks Marcy and John. They're asking me not you and my advice would be to not play any music for a newborn nuts. Give it a little talk. That's I say that but Susie and I took Spencer directly from the hospital to the Lounge ax the rock club that she owned so I think any of them are really appropriate for newborns sexually so almost any any black Nova perhaps hi jeff does performing ever seem Lak- job or do you still love what you do every night. I think this is from Pete. Pete I it does not ever feel like well. Actually you know what what's wrong with the job. It's actually a job. It's like a job I really love to do. And I'm feel really grateful to be there. I honestly do every night. It's impossible it's unnatural the play music on a tour of the way rock touring is set up playing every night. There's almost impossible by the end of like thirty shows to not have some songs. Get into a wrote state where you're about whether or not you have any pizza to heat up on the bus after the show like. I like pizza a lot. We've been eating pizza in Brooklyn but but the thing that's really great about music is. You can't do that for very long. Or you're gonNA really mess up. I actually caught myself thinking about. Where did I leave my keys when I left town or something like that and in the middle of singing and doing is like you can think about so many things? I don't ever really think about the lyrics. Actually this is a confessional. I don't none of it means anything to me because I was writing this book while I was on tour onstage while I was performing now honestly but you have to snap out of it and you have to lake figure out ways to change the setup you have to figure out ways to kind of combat that but I love being in the studio. That's the thing that's feels the most creative to me and the most sustaining but I would feel awful if I never. I feel like you have to stay connected to an audience. You have to feel. I don't know you have to feel what it feels like to have. A song be listened to. I don't know how to explain it better than that. I think that's right on okay. Is there a subliminal message in any WILCO Song specifically? I'm always in love. Thanks Joe Joe. Lay off the pipe Joe. There is a background vocal. I believe on that song that says smoke pot..
"wilco" Discussed on Talkhouse Podcast
"Came to show she came to the show with you. And you WANNA fourteen. It's a long time ago. Two thousand fourteen. Yeah not so anyway. Just just couldn't let that's that's so doesn't sound like me order. It wasn't like an order. Abby Jeff would know it was more like she was confused that it was me versus any one else Michelle. There are no women ever on our bus ever ever was. I GONNA go. Oh I was gonNA okay as a performer Okay you wrote a little bit about how sometimes you kind of certain songs make you feel like you're taking on a little bit of a different purse. Different version of yourself can amplified version or they take you in different places and I my question because I feel that way as well but my question is. Are you always aware of which one you are going into the song? Or does it fluctuate song to song or is it sort of like showed a show? Or how you're feeling in general You mean like How would you sing lyric? You don't have to necessarily be yourself completely. You can be sort of an unreliable narrator or something like that and then sometimes you feel like you are being your most raw honest version of yourself but then you kind of can allow yourself to be like almost a persona well. I can actually can see a lot of similarities between singing some of my songs and the character. You play on television as if that's what you're just you but not you. Yeah Weird I. It's a lot of it is like the heart of me but then I get to like where it all on my sleeve. Kind of vibe right. Yeah there are some songs that I've written as an effort to like see if I can sidestep being this vulnerable kind of wishy washy guy and come up with a little bit stronger person. I think I describe it in. The book is as someone who gets in more trouble and has more friends. You know like there's like a mark twain quote but yeah I think I mean there's it should it all has to feel real to me to sing it even more importantly I kind of can't remember lyrics if they stop meaning anything to me and so I try very hard to make. Lyrics have some emotional resonance even if it's not autobiographical. Cool okay One thing I really really loved in this book is the way you write about your family and your ensues relationship and your sons and I gotta say it made me want to have kids really you guys are GonNa WanNa Fuck it head some if you pretty sure you don't want kids. I recommend you read my read it. If you're on the fence you might get pregnant reading my. I mean I had to be careful. Yeah it the way that you write about barrel. No but I just felt like you manage being parents but also friends with your kids and just the creek the creativity. That's part of your family and the way that you I don't know your son's at all never met him one. Sami like ran by and I was like can. We were as pretty pretty preoccupied with something. You're somewhere no but I felt like I got to know them reading the book and and just the ways in which you guys have raised them and they've taught you so much they really might be my favorite part of the book. That's nice thank you. I mean I grew up in a family with a actually as weird as dysfunctional as my family was growing up. I'd get the impression that people liked to be around each other But nothing compares most of what I learned from my own family growing up for my my my parents and my siblings with what not to do and my wife taught me most of what to do like really simple things like having many meals together as possible. That wasn't something that ever happened in my house. We never eat meals together. When I was growing up. Not even at Thanksgiving we go in and get it no. Yeah when we first time Susie and I went to my parents house for Thanksgiving they came in and they said. Go ahead and make yourself a plate. She's like what make a plate. What are they talking about? I'm like she they mean. Make yourself a plate of food and go sit down and eat it somewhere. Because that's what everybody's dealing so the food's just out all the time there's no yeah. It was really weird thing I'd never had that behavior modeled for me. Oh Yeah this is nice I can. I can eat and talk to you. I'm always a little suspicious of parents that have actively cultivated friendships with their kids. I like to think that our kids like to hang out with us. But I don't want them to think of us as primarily their friends. Because that's Kinda shirking your responsibilities as a parent. Yeah I didn't get that by but there's a level of like it feels like communication that I'm not usually accustomed to blow. We never talked to them like they were super like stupid little kids and we just love him so much. That's the main thing I'm I'm a big believer in good enough parenting. You know not like hovering over them making sure they're in every every karate class and I don't know but you know the main the main thing I think that kids really thrive on is having having a close enough connection to their parents where they feel like they have a get out of jail free card at all times like I don't want them to have to ever feel afraid to call us to get out of some situation or something like that on that that's really the main thing you know like even when they are little you know just like keep that line of Communication Open so when they get scared about something they don't get scared about telling their parents about it. Yeah I loved reading all like every story from every band just like the inner workings of Band. Life is so romantic to me. I know you get into that. I think it just is from our point of view. Those of us who are not in band it's like the dramas in the touring and the buses and you know and then you very honestly about you know the bad side of that and the tricky parts and I wonder What's it like to be in a band with your son? And how that does that relationship shift at all or and then and both both of them played with you last night right. I don't feel like it. Does I feel like there aren't more on stage together when we're making music together we're peers. You know we. We're doing this thing that it doesn't whoever you play music with. It doesn't matter if they've been playing for thirty years or ten minutes. You're still making something together. You're still putting something out into the air. That is one thing. I highly recommend it. If you have anybody can play music with it's IT'S A. It's a pretty good for you. I think you know always confused me. When people like in acting or or in bands or some other professions where they say. Oh I'm not going to let my kids do this? This is just the worst gave you joy your whole life. What are you fucking talking about this? The thing that you love so much. Why would you? And they're always talking about the business and I get. I get that I get wanting to dissuade your children from the hardships of of aspiring to fame or fortune but the core of it the joy of acting the joy of writing or the joy of being creative person and making music with people. That should just be normal state of being in my opinion so okay so when we hung out on the bus. You're like telling me how much interested in comedy that's right and in doing comedy okay. There are this book is really fucking funny especially there. In in the middle of the book there are these conversations that are really funny like almost prefacing very intense chapter you have these conversations and the way you framed it and just threw out. There's a there's a through line of humor which is your personality but you told me you. WanNa get into comedy kind of okay. That's embarrassing now. Get into it but you know that's been a running joke in our household for a long time. I'm really wanting to break into acting and really I'm done with music really and that's just a running.
"wilco" Discussed on Talkhouse Podcast
"Train was going by. Things are inviting me to talk with you. I'm so happy agreed to do. I'm so nervous guys as I'm sure all of you are real quick. I'm GonNa tell you a little anecdote about how we met a went to this festival in Marfa and we'll go playing and my friend. Connor runs the festival. And I think I met you very briefly before and then my friend comes up to me after the show and she was like Jeff wants. You always really cool people. They're just like Jeff wants you to come hang out and I was like what and then I hung out and ate pizza in the tour bus. The rest is history. Here we are. We are this. Is it guys you all have this book now right it is so good it really is? I I read it. I was just on my book tour and I read it while I was on my book tour. It was like my companion. I'm going to read your book on my book tour. You're living opposite lives okay. I'm going to dive in. I'm really interested in learning. About People's processes and creatively and obviously you are constantly writing music and Europe. Poet what was it lake. Moving into this unite. You write about being. Oh no yeah I am totally. Is that a thing that you're like? You wouldn't label yourself as it's the Belleville Illinois in me so recoils at the someone else could call me a poet so thank you for calling myself. A poet still makes me a little nervous and controllable head until yes it's like. Oh yeah no okay. We're doing that now. We're moving into this longer. Format rate in the end about how you've been collecting kind of thoughts and ideas and memories and stuff. But what was it like? What was the process in in finding the framework for this book and figuring out or even like wanting to do this? The first place. The origin story for this book is pretty uneventful. Or I don't know it's it's more like somebody asked. If you want to write a book do you want to write a book and I said I guess now? I think I really didn't believe I think I thought I was calling. Someone's bluff when they said that there would be interested in you writing a book and I said sure there is and then they. They actually found someone that was interested in me writing a book and so it was a real opportunity that I thought I should take before I get older and no one asked me again all right. That's a good call in. I just went through this experience of changing up my format in terms of essays and figuring out like chapters. Did you do feel comfortable or were you was it in a nervous thing in terms of Oem GonNa? How do I frame this story? I mean obviously? It's you're telling your story but there's a lot of I was I was terrified of writing prose. I have written almost no pros in my life. including emails including turning in essays in school. That's primarily why I I almost flunked out of creative writing in high school. So I've always had a tough time wrapping my head around writing prose because I've always felt like the truth is really vast and I'm always feeling like I don't know where to stop when I'm describing like a moment even kind of infinitely spread out from the moment and right and that's the kind of stuff that makes make tracks myself or someone like myself to poetry and lyric writing because those are the kinds of things that make a lyric interesting or or abstract and beautiful but they don't tell stories very clearly at all just talking about the wood grain or you know the the light in the room or something so once I got over that fear of writing prose and started really thinking about telling stories as clearly as I could in my own voice like I would tell my wife or my kids or my friends Just kind of reading things out loud. I really enjoyed it. I really really thought it was. I don't know maybe WANNA write lyrics. That were clear who I imagine. Imagine it's a constant thing is people and that's sort of part of the experience of listening to music as we interpret what the musician maybe was intending. And what the story is about and we put ourselves onto it but we're also like what were they trying to say? Where did that come from? And yet this is like this is it. It's fully laid out. You're exposing more right. Yeah I think I do talk a lot about specific processes that I've used and things that generate words are language that I find exciting. Some people have asked me about that in the book. Like are you like? I'm giving away trade secrets or like. I'M A trumpet player. Like covering my hands so no one can see my fingering or I don't think that any of it is that particularly novel of I learned a lot of writing exercises from reading books about writing and stuff like that so But I also think that everybody in the world could use the same process and if it's a good process they'd all come up with different things and I come up with different things using the same process over and over so I hope it doesn't. It's not disillusioning because some people think of it as being I don't know you're showing what's going on behind the curtain too much. No I love I love it. I think everyone will be interested to know the behind the curtain. I think that's why we're we're buying the book right to a certain extent. I'm saying like because the music is sort of. It's a joint experience. Reading is too but we're really getting more insight into you know it's very clearly put out. It's beautifully written. Oh something right about that. I love and I feel like it's very clean. Your music is that vulnerability is a superpower and is your superpower. Yeah that's what can't you tell right now on full display. No but I just found that to be even even saying that is vulnerable the enemy what I mean just to it makes me cringe that I put it in the book and then people have taken it out of the book and put it in poor quotes and articles POCO. I pulled it and I'm quoting it all of it. Yeah I think I think everybody is so much more fragile than they pretend to be all of the time we bullshit each other so much all of the time and I am grateful that at a very early age. I found out that I wasn't capable of doing that. That wasn't really good at putting on a front and acting like I felt like I knew what I was doing or or that I was comfortable. I couldn't I couldn't pretend to be that now. Just tried to just go with it and turn it into something that might be more positive and one way. I think I was kind of assuming that everybody feels like that. Maybe I was wrong. I've kind of learned that there are people that aren't self reflective at all and are pretty solid but not many not many. I think the majority of us are are with you. I think so. Yeah it's refreshing to hear because you you feel it in art when someone is being vulnerable but it's just kind of refreshing to discuss it kind of like one of the things that I know from traveling around and talking to people when like my band like my music is that they have this feeling that her that you possess something that they don't have and that they want you to tell them how to get this thing that you have and I thought if I could put it in the book that the thing that I have is the thing I think everyone has and that is. I don't know the thing that you recognize in me. That has drawn you to me. If you're a fan of my music is that I think you recognize that part of yourself? That is like uncomfortable a little little ill at ease. Okay Yeah I love that. I've I've felt like I was reading and I was like I feel this. You're reading it and saying feel ilise feel ill at ease too. I mean art. Art Is really one of the things that's really important about artists recognition and the Bruni. Recognize yourself in something you feel less alone and I. I've talked about this a lot in interviews and and maybe not. Everybody is read every interview..
Six Nations: Andy Farrell 'happy' after Ireland win over Scotland
"The US secretary of state Mike Pompeii and has had bike strongly at accusations of the United States no longer believes in the international community addressing the international security conference in Munich he took issue with the German president Frank voter Steinmeier's opening remarks about an American retreat from global cooperation Mister Pompey essay did nothing could be further from the truth paraphrasing Mark Twain he said the death of the trans Atlantic alliance have been grossly exaggerated the foreign ministers of China and the Vatican have met in Germany and was believed to have been the highest level talks between the two sides since the establishment of the people's Republic of China seven decades ago is Roger Wilco when he and arch bishop pull gonna comment on Friday on the sidelines of the security conference in Munich both are said to have expressed a desire to build on the recent agreement it said the Vatican should have the final say on the appointment of Roman Catholic bishops Beijing also now recognizes the pope as the supreme leader of the Roman Catholic Church until twenty eighteen Chinese Catholics was split between a state run church and underground institution there is still no diplomatic relations between room in Beijing the pope Francis is said that he'd like to visit China Australian major report same members of the parliamentary committee have scrapped a planned trip to Britain as part of a worsening diplomatic row between the two countries China wholesale is in Sydney in a rare show of disapproval the UK's High Commissioner has reportedly written to the heads of two Australian parliamentary committees to formally protest the leaked details of sensitive talks with Britain's Foreign Secretary Dominique rob during his visit to camber last week according to local media reports the deputy chair of the intelligence and security committee Anthony burn strongly criticized Mister rob he reportedly said to the to allowing China to build bridges five G. telecoms infrastructure was equivalent to letting Russia constructed the parliamentary committee and the high commission of both declined to confirm the reports you're listening to world news from the BBC who the rebels in Yemen say they've shut down a tornado will play belonging to the Saudi led coalition that intervenes in the country's conflict five years ago a rebel spokesman told a Hootie run television station that ground to air missiles down the aircraft in the northern province of Joel the security forces in Mali say eight to the soldiers have been killed and four others injured in an ambush in the central region of cow early at least twenty people were killed in the multi region imbalance between two ethnic groups Molly has been blighted by instability since an Islamist rebellion began in the north in twenty twelve public press sermones involving thousands of monks have been held in Thailand a week after a soldier show dated twenty nine people the killings began when the soldier killed his commanding officer and stole weapons from a military base he was shot dead by the security forces inside the shopping mail researchers in the United States have warned of the psychological and moral dangers posed by the growing availability of sex robots with artificial intelligence the annual meeting of the American Association for the advancement of science was told that agencies were too embarrassed to investigate and regulates the use of the robots hello good reports the number six robots are advertised online including one large sized mannequin that links and sinks it slips as it talks researchers say that they're concerned that such sex robots pose a psychological risky uses Machon real relationships and they also worry that there's a more risk to society by normalizing operant behavior towards the machine for example some robots can be programmed to protest to create a rape scenario the scientists have verged regulators to investigate the risks of A. I. six robots before they use becomes more widespread and that's the baby see news hello this is Max basin and welcome back to the world this week this week has seen a dramatic shift in the political landscape of the Irish Republic general election produce results which few soul coming including apparently the party which came talk in the poll shin Fane I said that because if shin Fane had fielded more candidates they might have found their way to forming a government a little easier as it is shin Fane widely referred to over the last forty years as the political wing of the IRA secured roughly the same number of seats in the Dublin parliament as the two major parties fina Foyle and fina gale Chris page is our island correspondent it was a huge leap significant results really breaking the mold of Irish politics which is held for several generations shin Fiennes surge in the general election means that it's not up there with the two parties that have really dominated government in the country for decades FIFA fourteen FIFA Gail both centrist parties challenged by should fit in which is very much on the left and shin Fane and its leader Marilyn McDonald ready very successfully positioned itself as an alternative to the tea party some she termed as the establishment art fits of Irish politics focusing relentlessly in issues of housing and health but resonated very strongly with the are selected and Sinn fin really remembers a unique political organization certainly close to unique and that it operates in two different countries as well as not being the second largest party in the Irish parliament in Dublin it's also the second largest party in the regional parliament in Northern Ireland towards parts of the devolved government so in terms of its old Ireland's positioning in politics well it's not an extremely significant position and don't very much mainstream certainly in the in the Irish Republic which is an extraordinary transformation fission fame because this was remember interviewing Gerry Adams for example the formation vainly to in Northern Ireland during the nineteen eighties found that sometimes an intimidating affair with his body guards around him and the association with the IRA and now it's about small country the image yes should finish ready in thirty years gone from being a political pariah to a party of governments in Northern Ireland in the party that's challenging for government in the Irish Republican in many ways stop reflects the journey of the Irish Republican movement from guns to government does he say throughout the course of the conflict in Northern Ireland should fit in links to the Irish Republican Army the main part of the trip fighting for Northern Ireland to leave the you can be absorbed into you the Irish Republican took more life than the other group and not very lengthy conflict since the IRA cold cease fire in nineteen ninety four but shouldn't be in Studley increasing its growth in the power sharing government in Belfast in Northern Ireland and noisy positioning itself is the second biggest party in Dublin and very much in the running to be part of the government there should be taken the chin vent itself is been surprised by its own success given that they they could have run more candidates in in Ireland's proportional representation system possibly could have formed a government yes I think that's certainly true shin Fane Philip forty two candidates that's for a hundred and sixty six in total of thirty seven of them were elected night one of the other parties to be during the course of the election **** a few days ago that if Sinn fin had run say twenty more candidates will that of one probably ten more seats so that's a sign shin Fane strategists themselves didn't quite see a surge on this scale coming so not some really old on to the a parliamentary arithmetic if we got a bit of a three way standoff three to four nine for the gill say they're not going to go into a coalition government with should fan because of policy differences on because of the party's pasta associations with the IRA so you have should fade trying to put together a coalition with other smaller left wing parties but even if all of them came on board we still find that particular coalition coming short of the eighty seats they needs to form a stable administration I think we're going to find this whole process taking certainly weeks if not months and it's also very possible but it will be resolved the toll on will be heading back to the polls for another general election and how much of a problem is that for an island to be in the midst of such uncertainty when you know major things are happening around it well certainly the major international challenge Ireland will have over the coming months is the trade talks between the UK and the European Union since what with which our shuttle trip starts in in the aftermath of the U. K. exiting the E. U. so certainly I think everybody in this whole negotiation process in Dublin would agree it's better for Ireland to have a stable governments to lead the country three about process not the last politics is politics the voters are given their verdict not spend we have this very complicated picture on resolving about is certainly not going to be easy Chris page it's not just an island that old certainties are coming under scrutiny this week saw an unusual cloud of uncertainty descend over German politics the woman angler medical had hand picked as her successor and a great crime Kambala or a K. K. resigned as leader of the governing CDU the Christian Democrats the move was raised all sorts of questions about the future direction of German politics as I've been hearing from Damien McGinnis in Berlin this latest crisis was ready Spock's by a local florist see she shows after votes in the eastern German state of Thuringia in which I'm peas in her policy I voted for candidates as premier of that state's also supported by the far right AFP this display needs that she lost control of her policy because one of the big round was going on within the center right CD you is whether to work with the following safety particularly in eastern German states like syringes or whether to keep this firewall gave the far right that we have right now so I KK stepping down as clearly as you say a very poor reflection on the leadership of the CD you but how much of a blow to the party and indeed to angler miracles supposed plans for a succession if anything the struggles of any potential successors show how indispensable under the necklace so personally speaking it hasn't really hits her very hard but what it does to damages under Michael's vision for her policy and for Germany because what time the mac was done what I leading Germany is ready for a policy to the sensor grounds and what's cook conservative critics want to do is really make a center right possible Conservative Party again on this is a big impacts on the country as a whole because this part is the biggest party in Germany it could well be in government next time and the question is is Germany's biggest policy does journeys next government become more conservative I'm potentially one day even work with the far right safety or does it potentially stay in the US and around the maybe even one day from
Chaos in Baghdad as protesters try to storm Green Zone
"Anti government protests have broken out again in Iraq weeks after more than a hundred and fifty people were killed in demonstrations against unemployment and alleged corruption Roger Wilco reports a second phase of protest was not due to start until Friday but hundreds of people took to the streets of Baghdad on Thursday dozens headed towards the high security green zone where they were forced back by security forces using water cannon there were also protests in the southern cities of Diwaniyah a nice area a government report this week acknowledged that excessive force and being used to put down the demonstrations in early October seventy percent of those killed in Baghdad was shot in the head or
Mulvaney brashly admits quid pro quo over Ukraine aid as key details emerge... and then denies doing so
"On tonight major developments on many fronts in the impeachment inquiry we begin tonight with the one that eclipses them all and could fundamentally changed the course of this entire affair today one of the president's top advisers openly admitted what he the president and all the president's people have been denying for weeks now now he's trying to back wave from what he said what he said in great detail several times and not by accident right now acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney is furiously backpedalling from at all which only underscores the gravity of what he said today presumably with the president's approval he told the public told lawmakers pursuing impeachment told the world that yes the straighten withheld military aid from an ally under Russian attack to get that country to take action to help the president politically Mick Mulvaney admitted was a quid pro quo with Ukraine he didn't use those words quid pro quo but what he describes was just that and then he said this suggesting that we're all just a little naive for somehow being surprised equating what happened with the normal diplomatic give and take between countries which this is not it appears to be for personal game after all if this were normal it's hard to see what the White House has been trying fruitlessly now to stop all the participants in the scheme from testifying thing about it too congress another key player by the way ambassador Gordon Sunland went before lawmakers today but even as he was talking so it was Mick Mulvaney now here's the first moment from Malvinas press conference so the demand for an investigation into the Democrats was part of the reason that he was on the to with funding to you look back to what happened in two thousand sixteen certainly was was part of the things that he was worried about in corruption with that nation then that is absolutely on two thousand sixteen refers to that conspiracy theory the president's latch onto which blames Ukraine and the Democrats Not Russia for interference in the last presidential election now what Mulvaney just spilled out there is the exchange of something for something or the now familiar Ladan equivalent clear you just described is a quid pro quo it is funding will not flow unless the investigation into the democratic server happened as we do we do that all the time with Foreign Policy Oh okay well there was the president's acting chief-of-staff speaking for the president talking about the very first thing that president brought up on that July twenty fifth phone call with Ukrainian President Zelinski immediately after Lewinsky asked about the military aid we needed that was being held up Mick Mulvaney agreeing that what transpired on that call what he rudy Giuliani vice-president pence Mike pompeo and a cast of recently indicted accused felons were involved with for months was the very thing in the very words that the president others said it was not you take a look at the it caller was perfect I didn't do there was no quid pro quo just turned into a full blown threat a full-blown quid pro and I just don't see it this phone call all is a nothing burger in terms of a quid pro quo there was never any quid pro quo there's no quid pro quo would pro quo quid pro quo no quid pro hello there is no pro wealth or no pro quo today Mick Mulvaney admitted well yeah there was again didn't use those words a situation he described which he said get over it is a quid pro quo any tried to suggest that there was nothing wrong with it admitting it nothing wrong with emitting it because it just happens all the time and keeping them honest it's hard to see anything but bs because tonight as we said he is now furiously backpedalling away from what he said earlier recognition that speaking what appears to be the truth is terrible for this president so having made those disastrous remark he is now trying to say what he said he released a statement reading in part let me be clear there was absolutely no quid pro quo between Ukrainian military aid in any investigation into the two thousand sixteen election the latest word from it any in hopes perhaps of erasing the previous latest word which will play again for you now you just described is a quid pro it is this funding will not flow in less investigation into the democratic server happened as well we do we do that all the time with foreign policy and again he said we should get over it and perhaps he already has there's more breaking news on all of this including from the Wall Street Journal reporting that the president agreed on the need for Mister Mulvaney to walk back his comments yeah you think and personally approved his chiefs statement the paper citing a White House official more now from C. N. N.'s Jim asta who joins us from the White House I can only imagine what the response was when Mick Mulvaney finished that press conference and went back to whatever room he went to have gone well for him what's the reaction been inside the White House to all of this Anderson I mean I think Mick Mulvaney has gone from quid pro Oh to quit pro bono essentially what's happening tonight but basically you know when the president's legal team is putting out statements saying that they will we're not involved in Mick Mulvaney as briefing in the White House briefing room I mean that is pretty clear that they were not on board with this I'm told by sources familiar with these discussions go on inside the president's legal team that they were essentially blindsided and did not feel that what Mick Mulvaney had say help their cause very much having that all of that I just spoke with a White House official in the last several minutes who said that the president was involved somewhat in the statement that was put out by the White House the president according to this official felt that the media were intentionally misinterpreting what Mick Mulvaney said but of course Anderson that is more clean up on sixteen hundred As we as you just pointed out just a few moments ago not only was Mick Mulvaney saying there was a quid pro quo he almost seemed proud of it right Dan was a he sounded a pro. You know professorial during this briefing teaching all of us you know school kids this is how things work in the big leagues we do this all the time and then of course he had come out later on and released that statement one interesting thing to note if you go through that statement line by line Anderson the one that was issued by the acting chief of staff Z. evening it featured some of the same talking points that the president has been using over the last several weeks and saying that there was no quid pro quo that this was about rooting out corruption and so on sounds like they had to go back and rework that statement well I don't understand how Mulvaney could also in that same press conference stand there and say that the dirt on the Biden's that had nothing to do that that was not part of the quid pro quo even though we've all now seen the rough transcript in which that is item number two after the conspiracy theory about the server being in the Ukraine that's right and and keep in mind the president and his defenders for weeks I've been saying that there was no quid pro quo but in the rough call transcript the president admits he says in that rough call transcript that he wanted to get dirt on Joe Biden that he wanted to get dirt on Joe Biden's family what do we know by just looking at federal election law in this country it is a violation of law to seek foreign help in an election so the president is always is always trying to spin things obviously but clearly there is a violation of the law baked into that rough call transcript the thing that they were clinging to over these last couple of weeks anderson was that there was no quid pro quo and I think there's just no way around it the acting chief of staff blew that up today inside that briefing Krizner was on camera with George Stephanopoulos while saying Oh yeah it would be no probably if a foreign country had information I would totally take it and and you know who knows what he would get four well yes right he has spoken in this fashion time and again appreciate things just a few moments before suddenly reversed himself in the White House damage control when I spoke with the House Majority Leader Democrat Steny Hoyer leader Hoyer how damaging were Mick mulvaney remarks for the president in this impeachment inquiry will essentially really what I understand I didn't hear Mulvaney say but what I understand he says yes there was a quid pro quo and a in effect daring people to get over it because that's foreign policy now it's not what the Congress the United States appropriated money for an ally a war with and losing losing people a- and what the president decided to do is withhold that money which Mulvaney says was quid pro quo he doesn't say that Break Wilco but of good pro quo of for them doing something that he wanted done and then the conversation he said look by the way I need a favor favor was it to look into a political opponent not in two thousand sixteen but in twenty twenty And so I think it cannot help the case and will be part of the testimony and evidence that the committees are gathering Mulvaney is claiming that the president pursuing this conspiracy theory which flies facing the intelligence community says was Russian involvement in the DNC hack Levinas claiming that that was that was a concern about corruption in Ukraine just logically that also doesn't make sense I mean there's plenty of actual Ukrainian corruption but the president didn't raise any that all he talks about was this conspiracy theory about crowd strike and the Biden's it's there for everybody to read the conversation the president told the speaker of the house he the conversation was perfect which is why I presume he released it because he thought it was fine it wasn't fun it clearly was a quid pro quo it did I need to be stated this is the quit and that's the pro clearly the president of Ukraine knew what was going on clearly he knew that the president was saying I need his favor and by the way I've got your money and also I know that you want to visit the White House and obviously the contingency between the two was was really clear and I think mulvaney comments as I said shortly went out helpful to the president's
"wilco" Discussed on Rolling Stone Music Now
"Hey I'm Brian Hi this is rolling stone music now really excited to be sitting right here in A studio with Jeff tweedy of wilco and other projects and local have quite an excellent new album coming out called Ode to joy and we'll be talking about and hopefully a bunch of other stuff how are you jeff thanks for being here it's an honor so I was interested in something that you were saying about this record and your thoughts on rock which is that a paraphrase you but that raucous music was complicit in this moment in some way and they you felt weird about it which affects the kind of musical as you're doing in the way you're thinking about music I thought that was provocative wonder if you could unpack that a little bit for us well I think that one of the things I feel like I've observed in the town I grew up in and in this general political environment is a lot of people are very resistant to change and a lot more focused in a fear based way on retaining something that they feel like they earned and they have from the past as opposed to very you know there's not a whole lot of that discussion about how we could make a better future or let's problem solve or let's do you know if there's not a lot of forward thinking in my opinion at this critical moment in our history and it reminded me of my experience my feeling listening to a lot of records that you'd call rock or rock based records in the last ten fifteen years or so I tend to get the feeling a lot of times and maybe even listening to some of my own records that there's a fear of losing an audience there's a fear that is is antithetical to what I believe is the most important aspect of rock and roll to me growing up was the self actualization or the self liberation Russian that promoted and the idea that you should be pushing forward you should be challenging the status quo you should be challenging your own perception of yourself should be able to adventure so and I don't hear that on a lot of music that would claim to be rock and roll these days what a here is a lot of what happens to most sort of traditional jazz records or classical music or things that are in the business of being preserved at this moment and you can make an argument the that's you know that's a cultural moment that passed and maybe that's the only thing you can do is a folk idiom or something is preserve it but I still see the spirit of what I'm talking about in hip hop records and a lot of other types of music that have managed to avoid that fear or younger artists that don't feel like they've earned any anything yet are a little bit less concerned with maintaining some status or something but complicit is a strong word yeah well I think it is complicit it in a way because I think if you're an artist if you claim to be an artist you claim to be putting art out into the world you should be maybe a little bit more at the forefront of self examination and I'm trying to figure out what your role in this culture is and if you're promoting something that has such a I don't think it's a consciousness of it even complicit implies some consciousness I suppose but I don't think it's necessary for it to be apt you can be complicit as a parent in just being agent you know if raising kids that are getting into trouble or something like that are you do you don't agree no I'm just curious I think you're getting at it actually a really big topic and it's like there is probably some reassessment that's going to happen of the rock cannon and actually in some ways has been happening for a long time it's just going to keep happening and things will come to the forefront certain things get pushed back as led Zeppelin sound completely different now than when you're thinking about some of their behavior you know that kind of thing and we'll be getting there artifact I mean that's that's a little bit different because that's reappraising something that happened in a different time a different Zeitgeist or whatever you know I I don't think that the music is going to sound different but is their responsibility I think is the question for some of the lifestyles that were promoted that are extremely damaging and hurtful to a lot of people certainly the misogyny that's just completely accepted and promoted also a lot of music from those time periods but I'm talking more about some band that's been around a while in twenty twenty or twenty nine thousand nine making a record and I maybe I'm projecting because there's a lot of things that may be a band like co has to do with that maybe not every other band does because we've been around a little bit longer a lot longer than a lot of bands and so we do have an audience that it's been paying attention to us for a while now and there is an impulse to protect that or to reconfirm that so maybe it's easier for me the point the finger back at myself I'm being honest when I say I hear it in other people's records though but I can only recognize it because I felt it and I felt it in myself in wondered whether not I'm complicit in this moment in that I'm not always willing to be uncomfortable but I think it's part of my job to try and push myself to be a little income people from time to time or maybe all the time uncomfortable right now I am perfectly comfortable no so that affect what you actually did on this album because it is a very interesting on the same time it's not like it's a wrap up or anything you didn't like completely erase the slate and start over so how did that affect things I think it is inspired in a lot of ways by the records that I feel are more forward thinking and future-driven like what a hip hop record is in people like Caitlin and what hip hop in particular Oh everybody assumes that my kids turn me on the hip I listened to a water music I really love being disoriented by something new and trying to figure it out and make Jay Mafia and clipping and you know just two people that packed managed to make contact within the last year or so because have been pretty inspired by I guess maybe people look at it as experimental rap or something but I think in general the hip hop world is completely unconcerned with legacy if you do something that was done a month ago you're kind of dead in everything has to be new and I think there's some cultural elements to that that are pretty interesting to contemplate because you know it's coming out of community that has had its culture stolen from them repeat sadly and so I think at some point it became like okay well then try this you can't do this I'm doing this this week and you're still trying to figure out what I did last week if I hear the hip hop influence on this record I guess it's in that it it seems very much built on combination of drums and Acoustic Guitar and everything else is kind of a decoration wrote some as a very prominent decoration case of the thing seems to be those two instruments for the most part yeah I mean we weren't trying to make a hip hop record on it even trying to sonically sound like any record I mean I think it's a really good place to start any project making some rules and for us some of the rules were no referencing record collections. Don't say I WANNA guitar part that sounds like the byrds say I want it sound more despondent or you know trying to use words that are going to force you to be imaginative or be creative I mean they're not hard and fast rules that you have to hear to but I think they were helpful you know like that rule not just us our vocabulary are references to old records as a way to kind of avoid being creative ourselves I think it's pretty safe to say a lot of those records no one was saying make it sound like something else they were pretty thrilled to hear what they sounded like that helps what kind of cleared the palate a little bit the other thing is like the drums are really really primal and Glenn can play almost anything he's a very very adept virtuosic drummer and I kind of just put the idea and said that he has nothing to prove and that if he's doing anything with the idea of it being in a showcase of his ability as opposed to being an emotional component of the song or the record that he should thank it and I was also pointing out that a lot of people can learn a lot of licks can become virtuosos but really trying to get our focus to be more on how can you hit a drum so that no one else could hit that way or have a one hit of a drum be as exciting as a lot of drumming you know like I wanted here the head or able to hear into it more so like I don't know each drumhead was bought of as being more complex than just a time keeper or a showcase of some sort of ability there are noticeably cool drum sounds over this records which is I guess simpleton describing what you're talking in fact let's hear beginning the very first some bright leaves which starts as a statement perhaps it starts with some drums you did some solo work and when today this how if at all did that affect going back to the Wilco construct actually when I'm home I'm at the studio I like to be there and I make a lot more music than I could ever put out in my life and that's just it's kind of my hobby or it's also the thing I get to do professionally which is kind of amazing but after doing solo records there were still a ton of songs that I've been working on that didn't fit into either one of those records and I've been kind of I think subconsciously maybe he's setting aside for Wilco and then there is also I think half the record is just new material that once I started to develop sonic landscape for the record there's a kind of a conscious effort to make its own cohesive environment sonically then I started thinking of songs new songs thanks that would fit into that environment but there's some older songs like love is everywhere in everyone hides and hold me any way or like three songs that had been around a while and and never quite been recorded correctly or maybe fleshed out in a way that felt compelling I love we were lucky okay great song let's hear that from what can you tell me about just putting together well that's the the last song I wrote for the record and it was I really wanted to have some catharsis on the record and some after avoiding for a big portion of the record the electric guitar being prominent part of I don't know how record reaches People's ears I don't know just have it come crashing back into focus and that's kind of the opposite of some of the key conversations I have with Glenn it was you know Nels I think a lot of people think nells gets underutilized wilco because he's an extremely Awesome Guitar player and makes these incredible accomplished sophisticated records on his own but when he comes to Wilco he likes being textural in a lot of times that's not me directing him to tone it down I think he's over time become really he's really satisfied being.
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"Mm-hmm visit there's a sense that at any moment this thing is going to just happen burst open and and I love spoiler alert loved it sort of doesn't yeah no it just gets prettier and I do too and there's the lines coming up with the line about correct me if I'm wrong somehow bright leaves you and I beneath told connect the old snow or something and set free by the Winter Rain Yeah just trying to write songs and Eric said make me see something make make it easy to visualize some sort of little moment in a life I am barely gets eliminated in any kind of way and then you know I feel good about being around still some tried to trying to convey that I can't get enough of this stuff you know I wanna be I wanNA be here and you've been incredibly prolific warm and warmer and this is there anything in particular that as you get older you could go two ways could you yeah you could be disappointed with the way your life went and just get depressed and fall in whole or however celebrate a life and it really does seem like you're I love the fact that you say you're celebrating the little moments listen to well I mean those are the moments that we feel like I think some times we get the mistaken notion that were were helping someone less fortunate than ourselves by denying ourselves a little moments or or diminishing their importance which they can be disproportionately important to us a lot of cases and certainly having an awareness of of the suffering in the world can inhibit a lot of appreciation for your joyous moments and I've just trying to be a good person and and be responsible when my community and as a citizen but at the same I'm Tom I don't believe giving up those moments helps anyone and in in a way living your life in a way where you're able to enjoy those moments is kind of what we're fighting four for everyone isn't it I don't know I think that that's the that's the goal and it's easy if we're canoes and people watching listen to news it's easy to get lost in that world and forget the people close to you and the things that happened around you well it doesn't knowing what's happening in the world and the news we can have a lot of different feelings at once is is Kinda is this thing that seems like people really struggle with myself included it's idea that you're happy or your sad I think you're happy in a lot of the time I think you're extremely satisfied and also angry uh-huh and feel guilty because yes people are suffering and all the other stuff that's happening as crazy bad but don't deny yourself those feelings if you try if you want but you're still feeling them I think and I think in general you're not doing yourself any favors by by pretending that you have that much control over your motions in other words you can be aware of the suffering in the world and at the same time still feel sorry for yourself that someone got your parking space but we're gonNA take a break we'll be right back with more from Jeff tweedy and you're listening to all songs considered from NPR music support for this podcast and the following message come from Tito's handmade vodka born and bred in Austin in Texas the live music capital of the world music is just kind of part of our DNA says Tito beverage founder and master distiller of Tito's handmade vodka for recipes video and more visit them at vodka dot com eighty proof Tito's handmade vodka fifth generation Inc. distilled and bottled in Austin Texas you put time into making them your own so now it's time to protect them with your own personal state farm agents not only do they truly get you but they'll be there for you when you need them with over nineteen thousand agents in neighborhoods across the US there could be one just around the corner more at state farm dot com or one eight hundred state farm state farm here to help life go right on by boiling it's all songs considered from NPR music I'm talking with Jeff tweedy playing DJ picking music. This one's from an artist named Nandi I don't know a whole lot about nom de Baena but he's from Chicago and he's met him and he's a great guy he plays Bass with Spencer when Spencer plays his own music my son Spencer and this is I think it it's only available on band camp record drool not picked a song offer that record.
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"I love this records the when I say the next thing I'm going to say don't don't bite me pitches it ain't it ain't all the monkeys all cheers Oh but I'm I'm hoping that there's such a thing as a as a compelling plod and a magnetic trick I don't know that it's a word that's come up a few times in what people have at least the early feedback but there's a lot of joy in in plotting in my opinion taking it slow isn't necessarily a bad way to to exist and I think sometimes when I listen to music I think some of the will might be described as a joy because it's in my head now because the record title but some of the joy that exudes out of music sometimes doesn't feel quite is genuine and honest it feels more like something and they wanted to do to make I don't know well and if you've ever hit a hit a drum just one time really hard and just you know kind of allowed yourself to be I don't know just sit there and listen to the resonance of the drome and and get off on the the physicality of it and the visceral sense of something being struck that's pretty joyous I don't know to me like giving listeners that experience which was kind of the way we recorded the drums Kinda here the stick against the head of the drama and I really like the idea that there's a lot to be explored within the single head of drum sonically and that was kind of a starting point think for a lot of the recording so that's maybe where the notion of it being plotting comes from but for us it was rooted in this idea that you don't need to do a whole lot for drummed to be Cathartic we play bright leaves a network share.
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"For NPR music you're connected to all songs considered I'm Bob Boylan and on this edition of all songs considered Jeff tweedy plays Dj last week. uh yeah so like caught my ear pretty quickly as really really genius reappropriation it it's the story secrets twist the and and much of the record has much more of a a more spacious sound and then a bit of kind of plotti indeed that is if there's such a word is Plotti plotting found yes so it's not a very good adjective to have attached to your music in general.
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"Wilco ten albums follow plus all sorts of detours and solo albums now come studio album number eleven it has put out a sort of manifesto with this album where Jeff F- tweety asked the question. Does anybody really need new wilco music and he says they felt like they had something to prove. It was time I'm to come together again. Let's play a song from this album and then we will give our opinions on Ode to Joy. I should note Mr Cot my partner. Mike Hi my family member in this little endeavor of ours wrote the definitive biography of Wilco but that's already quite some time ago. What year did learning how to die. Come outbreak break two thousand four. Let's hear what they're giving us. In the new music of this is the song we were lucky by WILCO ON SOUND OPINIONS Steve Scott Shane and that is we were lucky from Wilko's new studio album Ode to Joy this is a record record that is apparently ironically titled. Because I'm not hearing talk of joy in his record jim known you know it. had it doesn't barrel of relationship to the Fourth Movement of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony at least for me and that's fine. The sarcasm has always been a part of the WILCO World Jeff Tweedy as a warrior area for people who don't know him he he tends to conflate his own personal insecurities with with what's going on in the world around him and you're hearing that seeping into not only the lyrics. Erik's but this sort of weird low key ominous atmosphere that seems to be underneath a lot of these songs pervading a lot of these songs. It's very you are already folk record a UH people who are expecting you know more upbeat UPTEMPO wilco music. Is it going to be disappointed. I think again it's more about What can we add to the conversation. That's new. It's not about repeating ourselves or reprising old glories. It's about a pushing into new territory. They're doing that again here. The drumming and the Acoustic Guitar and the voice are the central elements in this record record started as a collaboration between Drummer Glenn Coach and tweedy then the other band members were brought into color around that you can hear those rhythms as being central to the record now going coach. One of the best drummers in the world is essentially playing these very trudging kind of drumbeats throughout this record twitty's talked about this as being the sound of a heartbeat or a marching rhythm for some people May. It's the sound of some guy limping down the street. You know it it a wounded person a okay. I can understand why they would feel feel that way but everything will does done with intention. the record comes together for me in that song we just played. There's a couple of nels cline solo all of these spasms of noise that emerge from that Merck. That's underneath a lot of these songs that are kind of a short sharp stick in the eye. It's Kinda like Oh luke. Where did that. Come from and it's it's exciting than probably the most exciting moment on the record. There's a lot of big questions. Being asked here and a lot of anxiety are we. We all in love just because in bed all day. I can't escape my domain sometimes himself a hole for you to get in the record is really suggesting that no one's really safe in in this in this world. We're living in right now. I mean this is a dark dark record and I think the atmosphere reflects it. It is not a record that is is going to win. WILCO OF NEW FANS IT requires a lot of patients to get through I'm not recommending it for that reason but at the same time I find some stuff in here that I find really intriguing. Well you know look. I am a fan of dark night of the soul art folk with atmospheric records. Okay you know and you go back to tonight's the night by Neil young or the third album's by the velvet underground or Big Star and what you realize is that in in in addition to those really slow Languid quiet songs that mark those albums there are other emotions and other sometimes times live songs. It's always mistake for critic to review and helm. You wish the band made instead of the one they did. I'm not saying that I'm saying wilco at a period between ninety nine and two thousand four summer teeth Yankee Hotel Foxtrot a ghost is born worrying that leak of of the velvet underground the best of Neil Young Big Star and I think they've been lost for a while there are moments of beauty to be sure on everything they've have done since two thousand four in particular Sky Blue Sky in two thousand seven but man this is a boring record unless you're willing in to invest the time of having had a two or three decade history with this ban to care to look for the gems. It could have been edited. There could have been three or four songs. Love is everywhere homey anyway you know and then the rest of album that took advantage of one of the most creative bans of the last thirty years you know it's hard to find the Wilco in this wilco record and that's a huge disappointment to me. I had this not to to be bored now that we've had our SAN YOU WILCO record. We want to hear what you think. What are your thoughts on the latest from Wilco call and leave a message on our hotline had eight eight eight five nine eighteen hundred the take all right the Jackson five one of the all-time great family bands this week we are taking look at groups that are made up of brothers sisters multiple generations cousins you name it. There have always been family bands throughout pop music history and there or something it can be argued. That's a little special about them. Their electrifying we're going to list some of our favorites Greg. You're starting us off. I'm going to pick the staple singers as is my first family band that I wanNA focus on staple singers out of Chicago but got to go back to dockery farm in Mississippi for the origins of of POPs staples that's where he grew up and learned Blues Guitar Listening to people like Howlin Wolf who played down at dockery farm that was one of the cradles of the Blues Lose in the Early Twentieth Century so pops had this blue saturated guitar style that he brought North with when he moved to Chicago in the Mid Thirties raised raised his family he had purvis's daughters Cleopa Yvonne and Mavis and basically created a Gospel Group with his children sat him around at his feed in the couch at southside apartment started teaching the harmony parts that he learned growing up on dockery farm when he was doing Gospel Music as well as the blue side by side and and then integrated the two art forms he was one of the first people to bring the electric guitar into the South Side Churches so it used used to be basically weekly piano in Oregon when you hear a Gospel Group performing in Church pops had that Distinctive Electric Guitar Sound and the other thing about the group that really really stood out besides the beautiful harmonies the family had together was Mavis the youngest of the daughters who had this deep contralto voice amazing voice at a very very young age so they contrast between pops guitar and Mavis his voice and those beautiful harmonies on top created this unique sound a lot of people no this group primarily because of its hits during the stacks records era in the nineteen seventies when they recorded a bunch of hits for that Great Memphis Soul label like respect yourself and I'll take you there but I want to go back to the very beginnings of the group when he started recording their first big songs for VJ records these are really stripped down performances with POPs as guitar basically the only instrumentation on many of these recordings and then the voices of the group the song. I'm going to play a song that the rolling stones loved loved in fact they loved so much. They ripped it off. Keith Richards freely admits that he was listening to the staple singers perform this song when he came up with the guitar are rift for the stones version of the last time one of their first big hits in the mid sixties. The staple singers had hit with a few years earlier and they call it. This may be the last last time obviously the stones changed. The lyrics secularized the lyrics. This is an old classic Gospel Song that POPs rearranged. This is called. This may be the last time from the staple all singers unsound opinions maybe at the moment hello chain Jeez. Oh ooh U's may be it. MHM may be a wow didn't didn't Maybe there's that is this may be the last time for the staple singers a great family band Jim. What do you got next force. Greg when you think think about great hit singles about being a family we are family by sister sledge shoots right to the top of the list right. I was talking about this with our producers and they didn't realize has the sister sledge. Actually were all sisters. They originally formed as a group called. Mrs Williams grandchildren in their native Philadelphia why Mrs Williams grandchildren because file a williams. The Great Opera Singer was the grandmother of Kim Sledge Debbie Sledge Joni Sledge and Kathy Sledge wjr now. There's band came along fairly late in the disco explosion but they made a big mark with an album produced by Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edwards of Sheikh. That's that's the one that had we are family. He's the greatest dancer really great songs. Frankie was a hit the came later. I'm GONNA play a little bit lesser known tune. It was the title track of their nineteen eighteen eighty. One album neurotic Michael Walden produced this one all American girls. I just love the idea of these four sisters from Philadelphia it just I in my mind. They're always he's sitting on a stoop in the summer and they're Kinda just jamming and start seeing together and the song has that vibe but there's a lot of female self empowerment a lot of good vibes and those those killer groups here is all American girls by sister sledge on sound opinions. Say What what what flipped as we've worked Tom. sometimes a struggle you the making stop the equal. I know what I'm really correct all American girls by sister sledge on sound opinions Nineteen eighty-one hit Greg. You've got another family had forest. Thank you Jim. I want to stick with the sisters theme here for a minute sisters. Maggie Terry suzzie Roach the roaches a vocal group trio out of Greenwich Village in New York in the mid seventies recorded their debut. You elevate in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine. They picked up a lot of fans on that Greenwich Village Folk Scene During that era including Robert Fritz the great guitarist and mastermind behind King Crimson Simpson. He was a fan he ended up playing on a number of their records producing them and was just struck as were many people during that era by this quirky mix of folk do doo-wop bluegrass barbershop girls were doing. They weren't really classically trained singers but this is. GonNa come up a lot in the show. This whole idea of family members sing thing together when they harmonize. It is something unique and un-reproducible. No one else can sound quite like family members when they sing together and it was very much true of of the roaches the song I'm GonNa play is from the Robert trip produced debut album in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine. It's a song called Hammond Song in it's about the city of Hammond and in Louisiana where Maggie and Terry were staying soon after they recorded on Paul Simon's there goes Reimann Simon album and it's basically Maggie talking talking to Terry. She sees her getting involved with this guy and says you know if you if you stay here and Ham. You're never gonNA come back home to New York. City Terry answers back in the middle of Song. Hey Sis layoff off. I know what I'm doing. I can handle it so you have this little conversation between sisters in the middle of this song it's Hammond Song from the Roaches unsound opinions went bad ah Admin aw as far as I am aw uh-huh you.
"wilco" Discussed on Sound Opinions
"Stone and heart to the Partridge family. There's been plenty of family bands real and fictional in music history this week. We'll share some of our favorites plus. WILCO is back with their eleventh went studio album Ode to Joy. We'll give you our takes a- and Jim drops a coin into the desert island jukebox. That's all coming up on sound opinions. You're listening sound opinions and later in the show. We're talking about the best family bands but first. Let's review some new music L. A. Says Speed Eh and that is a little love is everywhere perennials. Beware by Wilco Geico from its eleventh studio album Ode to Joy. Welcome to abandon the probably doesn't need much introduction at least not on this show you know it all starts with uncle Tupelo one of the founding forces in the alternative country movement in the early nineties. They disbanded in nineteen eighteen ninety four. Jay Farrar goes his way with son Volt and Jeff tweedy goes his own with.
"wilco" Discussed on The Tapes Archive
"Came back on or you get on the stage. He stopped me and wanted me to sign a CD. And I said I'm going up to play right now. Can you wait until we're done? No no sign now signed it. And he's like no to me. My you know my name is i. Don't know whatever's what is they win con Van. There's something I was like. No I'm sorry I just signed my name. That's as good as he can get right now. We're like everybody else is on stage waiting for me so we go up. We start playing more songs. Were in the middle of a song and he walks up to the front of the stage is just like it was like a restaurant really small really low stage. He comes up in the play box for letters like we. Just we played it for you. Ma'am we played. Everyone at. Your request is like no you did not play it the way. I want electric box full of letters because my boxes only half full of letters come of the most demanding person I've ever encountered in my life. I think most people would be thrilled to get like one song played that they out. That's for sure then. We I saying we used to love me tomorrow to him after I gave him a bunch of Shit from the state told the whole story right after that after that song on stage like this guy here stand up. Show everybody who you are you know and I mean I'm sure you've seen. He's been requesting songs all night. We've been accommodating this man all evening he's still not satisfied so I say. Will you still love me tomorrow to him and sat on his lap? Oh man good. You wouldn't talk to me afterwards. I felt like that was a you know the the desired effect. That's just great and after all you did for that funny anything else There was one of the things you your your fiddle player left right and you have somebody else plan We don't have a fiddle player but we have a guy is traveling with this is playing pedal steel in some national and Just some you know various string stuff to kind of create actually. The penalty deal helps a lot with the new material. Because it can kinda cover some of the organ parts and some of the more drone things that are happening on the record and J switches off now between guitar and Kano in Oregon so we have those things live now to to hand the new guys traveling with you. Who is as Bob Bobby and used to play in freak water. Okay and anything amid tell people that we haven't talked about Who wear size ten shoes almost across the board if they went to bring us some shoes okay to do people bring issues. Choose a lot okay and any any particular time. Bruno Mali. Those yeah I thought she Flip on You Know No. I'm just kidding I actually do. Have a lot of shoes but I can't think of anything all right. That sounds great. I appreciate your time down. I'm looking forward to seeing you next week. All right take care thank you. Hey thanks for listening to the Tapes Archive podcast. Please remember. You can always find more information about the show and the individual episodes at a website the tape archive dot com until next time. The vault is closed..
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"Making the record because we made in Chicago but now that we're touring a lot. It's a little harder. You know. I feel bad. I'm GONNA as much as I am. Now else your boy. He's a just a little over a year now so just walk starting to walk and all that starting to walk talk and getting his teeth and hilarious. Yeah that's a good age are a lot of these songs I mean re re thinking about your son and The prospect of leaving 'em when you were when you were writing thinking about the prospect of being a dad actually when I wrote a lot of materials before he was born there in a little bit you know the record was accorded right after. He was born so Yeah definitely on my mind. You know have spent a little while a lot of time. A lot of years thinking about one thing particularly kind of Mono maniacally directing all my energy towards music and just wondering if that was gonna be a really horrible thing for five be able to switch gears enough to be a good dad you know and and have I think so I mean it's you know it's kind of ironic. Felt good about it and kind of Kinda came to terms with it and a lot of ways making the record now. It's you know I'm I'm back in the middle of it again because they have no choice than like you know out on the road to really hard to to think about anything else you know. Yeah missing terribly. But it's like you're so immersed in it yeah you tend. I tend to stress out of it though about it. The same way I used to you know like I like playing music. A lot of stress out about is just wanting to get better and things like that. It's really unimportant. Are you So far the kind of Dad. You thought you'd be Yeah I think you know we really. I mean when I'm home I'm home. Twenty four hours a day generally and we like. I think we've bonded quite compared to a lot of like Dad's in the first year. And you know it's been a kind of a house. Dad did all the feeding and changing diapers and things like that that I know my dad. Never did you know yeah. Well dads are different. These assure aunt Also in Kingman. Are you saying living? In pecan pecan Illinois. That's I that's what I thought God. That's a strange thing to say. Have you have you been pecan Now? I've never been to pieces but I just kind of pictured it just I don't know I think the ideal was be great to be like Efficient AS SMALL TIME. And that's not the small pond you want to be in though. I think they'll probably not I think that's a real polluted gene pool. There myself I used to. I lived and worked in Springfield for a couple of years. Have a good friend. Who Lives Peoria? I've been through peak in a few times. Yeah yikes anywhere. Maybe I should have gone there. It's like either so on outta mind. How hard would let which is an obvious beach boy sound? How hard was it to to create? That sound was as complex as As everybody says that it was for the beach boys well. I don't think it sounds as good at the beach boys for one thing I No it wasn't. It was a lot of fun you know. Luckily we had access to that real echo chambers and we had access to You know several pianos to there's like I think it's a lot easier for to do that now. Because twenty four track recording. Is it really what they had to work with? Phil Spector recorded. The wall of sound stuff. Which obviously the main influence on those beach boys recordings. It was all the musicians like twenty minutes in a single room and recording on four track or eight track. And that's why it sounds better. You know that's why has all white is wallace and we kind of made a partition of sound. How did you do? I mean it was a routine or is it or is it something Different or special. That I mean we. We honestly most of the recording. We're just having a good time and we do a song a day in that song took a day to do we. We set up in the morning with Tracked it with two Pianos Acoustic Guitar drums for basic track and then we added Two more pianos than take this six piano tracks to clarinet. Tracks to base tracks Kettle drums and then to such drums. was just just kept playing through it with different setups on and pilot stuff on top of the original take in and then then we went and all saying in the bathroom. You know I mean if you listen to it. It's pretty loose. It's a pretty loose thing you know for all I mean. We just thought it was fun. You know it's funny. We were matching it up against my baby and every time we put be my baby on we go out while we got like seventy five percent of it right you know. Unfortunately I can't sing like Ronnie Spector. Made it probably a lot better. Yeah you know you said that. About being loosened the whole record feels loose. I mean the thing that I like about it. So much from changing styles It just has the kind of. We're going to let them make the kind of record we want. You know we're not gonNA worry about about fashion or what's popular or anything like that. We'll just go in and the kind of songs we WANNA record or yeah I mean I think. Got It so much easier that way. It's not like It just shouldn't be so hard. Don't think it should be so. I mean it's really easy to think. Wow this is really important record for us you know career wise or you know all those things and then just. I can't take that kind of pressure. We have a lot more fun. Just thinking where where I mean. They're looking at the reality of you. Know we'd get to make a record. Might as well enjoy it while it's happening and and do things that we've never gotten to do before. Take advantage of the fact that we have some money to spend on on the production of this. Let's go ahead and rent the got damn Congas if we WANNA you know. Yeah but that will was that always your attitude toward or towards recording the the business now in the past I was. I've always. I've always felt like it's best to just trying to collect moments on tape and and kind of overwhelmed by the possibilities studio presents to you so lies in the past of like definitely always felt like it should be losing like a like a kind of a document of at the time and place and the songs you have at the time but in the past the whole Like I think the methodology has more to just play it live to eliminate all those possibilities and and hopefully get like a solid performances doesn't need anything else in very rarely rarely what we do over doubts in the past just because we wanted to keep it pure and this time around. I was really bored with doing that. And it's like well I don't care. How pretentious it is there. How stupid any of this stuff is. It's pretentious to make a record. It's pretentious to be in a rock band it might as well revel in it. You know and Did you did you think about trying to recreate it? Live and can you recreate it? Live or again the care to recreate and now I don't care to recreate it live. I mean it's we play the songs live and they they hopefully come across but there they come across in a different way. You know If we went to make the record tomorrow With the same songs. I'm sure that a lot of them would be completely different. I mean we tracked different versions of a lot of those songs. It had nothing in common with the way. The ones diversions. That are on the record just like I think. The idea is to get to a point as a musician. You're not really thinking about being virtuoso or anything but just where you're comfortable like knowing what the song is and then adapting to how everybody feels that the time and like with the with the environment or adapting to like an audience is the same thing. Certain songs will have more of an edge than the records. Some nights some nights. It might just be kind of with our GIC because of fatigue but hopefully always like just an honest honest representation of what you're dealing and thinking about at the time you know did you say The alternate takes for the future box. That that's the next record actually box it okay. Great box set of all original material. Though. you know there's somebody comparisons made between this and other records and the one that I have read that really jumps out to me. I think is several liaisons. Remind me of mas well hillbillies kinks et CETERA. Record you know and I love that. Take one of my favorite records of all time. Okay.
"wilco" Discussed on Fresh Air
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