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"wilbur wright" Discussed on WGN Radio

WGN Radio

01:41 min | 3 d ago

"wilbur wright" Discussed on WGN Radio

"At soldier field college basketball northwestern tops Maryland 67th 61 and UIC lost a Detroit mercy 64 56 WGN traffic no major problems to report at this hour Mayor lightfoot and other city officials are warning chicagoans about the new COVID variant omicron the very it is now been found in at least 16 states The mayor and Chicago department of public health commissioner doctor Alison arbori today once again encouraged unvaccinated residents to get the shot This while visiting a family vaccination clinic at Wilbur Wright college on the northwest side of the city Meanwhile the U.S. has averaged its highest amount of COVID-19 cases and two months Since Thanksgiving travels a 100,000 new COVID cases have been reported each day According to data from John Hopkins University the last time the nation hit that kind of number was back in early October Chicago police say at least 27 people have been shot 6 fatally and shootings from Friday two tonight in the city One of the most recent shootings a 24 year old delivery driver was shot in the face and the 4400 black of Seth wood street An 18 year old male standing on the sidewalk was also shot in the thigh both men are reportedly in good condition A look at the forecast from the WGN Chicago weather center for the overnight windy and cold more shower possible though down.

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What Separates Humans From Other Animals?

No Stupid Questions

02:15 min | 7 months ago

What Separates Humans From Other Animals?

"Animals. I mean my dog has a 401k. Also why do we pace. When we're stressed or anxious like in the bugs bunny cartoons. Somebody's waiting outside the delivery for so andrew came across a paper in the journal. Frontiers in psychology which. I was so charmed by that. You've read as we can talk about it. It's called acquisition of a joystick operated video task by pigs. How could i forget for the listener. I'll just explain. These experiments were carried out at penn state university. There were four pigs. A pair of yorkshire pigs named hamlet an omelette and a pair of panna pinto micro pigs named ebony and ivory. I guess after stevie wonder and paul mccartney or the song of that name or after piano keys and the paper describes what the pigs were and were not able to learn in these experiments manipulating video game joystick with their snouts. And what i really want to know is tell us how it changes your thinking as a psychologist if it all about non human animals their capabilities. The way we should think about them perhaps differently about ourselves differently. Well thank you for broadening. My academic horizons. I would not have read this paper on video games and makes were it not for our friendship so i i will just say that when i read this line i literally laughed out loud after twelve weeks of training. Hamlet and omelette were terminated from the experiment because they had grown too large no fit within the constraints of the test pen. Academic research is tough. You lose fifty percent of your research pool just like that so anyway now down to two test subjects by the way. So one of my intuitions is that one ought not an. I understand that this research is hard. But maybe not generalize to olive pig them based on this very small number of pigs because look at wilbur wright some pig yeah so maybe ebony or ivory were some one of them was much better than the other in the research so there's various across pigs even yes. It is

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"wilbur wright" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

Newsradio 700 WLW

02:50 min | 1 year ago

"wilbur wright" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

"For something like that. And it couldn't put together a deal to keep Art Modell, who was going broke. So Baltimore like wrote him a check for $10 million put in his hands. And away we go. That was the game. The Bangles on the back of a flatbed truck. I addressed Desperate Browns fans 25 years ago today, talking about the Patriots and the Revolutionary War. Patriots and the World War two, the Patriots and the Gulf or whatever one. It was the Patriots here there and everywhere and who did Belichick coach to greatness? The Patriots. Please continue. NFL tonight Will the Chargers and readers tonight eight o'clock on ESPN? 15 30, South Florida. Eating the Cincinnati Bear Cats last night. That's the Bulls first win in the Queen City since 1988 who was president 1988. Please continue. Give me a hint are around two Reagan. Bingo. Who was the mayor? And 88? Was that Chazz? Oh, I think before that was, uh, might have been David, the main man or Google Burger. But I don't know because chance. His reign of power began in the 19 nineties. Well, he needs to come back and he's a seize power. Correct. And Willie it was on this day in 1903. Since the Wright brothers War, But Wilbur and oil Wilbur and Orville Wright of Dayton Nobody's named well. The first successful band power airplane flights there. Kitty Hawk, North Carolina. And the guy. The report there was Jay Ratliff and the first guy that circled the earth was John Glenn from Ohio First man on the moon from Ohio, Neil Armstrong. So we have a pretty good history when it comes to flight. This. Maybe we could just fly this coop, but 19 away. We'd be a lot better. You don't see too many little boys named Orville anymore, dear or Wilbur? No, That's not a real popular name. But first successful airplane flight was today at Kitty Hawk. Tony Bender told me that if he has another child is going to call him horrible. If they're twins, it'll be horrible. And Wilbur I thought a while. You don't see that name anymore? Horrible. Orville and Wilbur Bender, Orval vendor. Why not Wilbur Bender? Name him after some famous person. Nobody has another kid about you mentioned Be William. Plus one buyer you. It's been voted the top heist that the top college football program in America or historical and Wilbur Wright is Ohio State and the greatest College basketball program is UK, right? The most famous auto race in the world? The Indianapolis 500, Right? So we're pretty well represented here in the Tri state. Would you would.

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"wilbur wright" Discussed on X96

X96

08:04 min | 1 year ago

"wilbur wright" Discussed on X96

"It's 6 a.m. 6 a.m. saddle up the troops. Too much for 6 a.m. I don't think it's enough. 6 a.m. around But when you think But It's 6 a.m. Just Already the boy didn't know Batter to may. We'd like to be president. So you're you're you? I don't speak right. But get I know what I don't mean to judge any of you, but you're all terrible white bone. They wouldn't have a mockery of the brother. I want you here. I see the usual gang of misfits and dope addicts are here because On this day in 1949 BB Dickerson, American bassist with the Funk Band War. Was born. So somebody in the texted I think it was during that song, referring to that song Every time I hear that song, I want to cut my head. I know that was 13 hours ago wasn't well. I was going to say if it's that song that makes you want to cut your head off. You're listening to the wrong Radio station. But if Katie could look back and see what song was playing 13 hours ago now I'm curious. What then Wass be hard to specify. And of course, the answer to why can't be friends is because I like you. That's the reason we cannot be friends. I just Don't like you. War known for A couple of songs that one and more famously low rider, but I just Wasn't feeling crime it Why can't we be friends made more sense? You mean because it's 100 for? No said the climate, I because the troubles continue troubles. I was watching the Ah, lot of the space capsule stuff yesterday. So the Dragon capsule leaving the space International space station. And returning to earth and splashing down in the In the ocean and Picture perfect, just brilliantly done scientifically, technically, brilliantly done perfectly perfectly executed. Every single thing going without a hitch. Elon musk being interviewed briefly, and I heard and saying it and it was an interesting comment he made, he said. From the time, he said. The next step is to go to the moon. That's what we want to dio, you said, because you know from the time Orville and Wilbur Wright first fluid Kitty Hawk To the time man went to the moon was 50 years on Lee. 50 years Really, and it's been 50 years. Since we went to the moon. I think it's time we did it again. And I kind of thought and I don't even know why we should. I mean, if I stop and think about it, I could think of Logical positive arguments were doing it as people who are listening would say. I can also think of a lot of positive arguments for not doing it. But But But just I just thought yes, we should. Why 50 years Matt Damon wants to grow potatoes with his own poop. That's why he has known interested all on going to space is in his face. And right now growing does with his own eyes, hoop. Well as we know Bill It is the final frontier. Yes, it is spaces that in fact, The final friends here, But I mean, I just I don't know. I just thought it was and I was thinking how amazing this is watching all of this technical stuff going on and all of these people, hundreds of people working together. In concert in this amazing accomplishment, and Donald Trump is the president of the United States. How is that possible? It is a hideous that's what's because he didn't help anything to do with him. But that's what's screwing us up so much is that we are and if we look at it, we are capable of such genius. And then there's that Donald Trump is the president. And that is just such a disconnect in my brain. I'm just going What Mankind has a chance to be sublime. He is not it. No, but he'll take credit for it, though. Yeah, there was so the one they Here's the one technical Glitch that Dragon X, the Dragon crew Space six and NASA said, and the whole operation the one glitch wass When the capsule splashed down and A whole bunch of dozens of pleasure boats..

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"wilbur wright" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

WIBC 93.1FM

01:57 min | 2 years ago

"wilbur wright" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

"Orville and Wilbur Wright in Dayton Ohio went about it the smart way they read all about the ones that didn't work so there's would very and I witness to the very first flight one should be removed your name what about power and they're flying machine with an internal combustion engine rather than steam others worked for three years powered flight in North Carolina we had a little bit of eleven making but rebel forces you know one and I've never been on December seventeenth nineteen oh three the six hundred pound air plane piloted by Orville Wright lifted off the ground for the first time for twelve seconds of flight later that day lasted almost a minute the engine that powered the flight was twelve force power and hi good morning and then one again it was a small step get a leap in the same way another many years later would mean human beings defy gravity in an even bigger way Goddard Space Flight Center fifteen miles northeast of Washington DC sixteen nineteen sixty one this place on this day daughter is remembered and honored the story of the father of space flight hi I'm Erin genius a man with a green as a teenager Goddard dreamed of a vehicle that could last people to the moon made that his life's work remember my hope house university one room in December of nineteen part.

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"wilbur wright" Discussed on KFI AM 640

KFI AM 640

01:48 min | 2 years ago

"wilbur wright" Discussed on KFI AM 640

"Back at this week in history this week in nineteen oh three near Kitty Hawk North Carolina Orville and Wilbur Wright the first successful flight in history I'm a self propelled heavier than air aircraft Orville piloted the gasoline powered propeller driven by plane which stayed aloft for twelve seconds and covered a hundred and twenty feet on its inaugural flight this week in nineteen forty six Steven Spielberg will become one of the most successful directors in modern movie history such blockbusters as jaws ET raiders of the Lost Ark Schindler's list and saving private Ryan was born in Cincinnati Ohio after studying film at California State University Spielberg directed his first full length feature the nineteen seventy one thriller tool which starred Dennis weaver can originally aired on television to strong reviews great movie by the way the young director grabbed Hollywood's attention with his next film jaws in nineteen seventy five this week in nineteen ninety eight after nearly fourteen hours of debate the house of representatives approved two articles of impeachment against president Bill Clinton charging him with lying under oath to a federal grand jury and obstructing justice Clinton the second president in American history to be impeached Val to finish just turn on February twelfth nineteen ninety nine he was a quick and this week in two thousand five newly elected Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad announced a total ban on western music on state run television and radio in the Islamic Republic of Iran predictably this did little to stamp out into C. as in for western music in a nation where seventy percent of the population was younger than thirty years of age as of two thousand eight that's your look back if this week in history rob thirty one a breath work instructor no not a job rob rob is a breath work instructor who says.

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"wilbur wright" Discussed on KTOK

KTOK

01:50 min | 2 years ago

"wilbur wright" Discussed on KTOK

"It for this weekend be sure to check out the daily diet every Monday through Friday join us on social media on Twitter David I forecast on Facebook leave us a comment give us a rating and tell us the stories that you're interested in although the daily dive in I heart radio or subscribe were ever you get your podcast this episode of the daily diet has been engineered by Tony Sorrentino I'm Oscar Mayer is in Los Angeles and this was your daily diet we can and now a look back at this week in history this week in nineteen oh three near Kitty Hawk North Carolina for bill and Wilbur Wright the first successful flight in history have a self propelled heavier than air aircraft Orville piloted the gasoline powered propeller driven by plane which stayed aloft for twelve seconds and covered a hundred and twenty feet on its inaugural flight this week in nineteen forty six Steven Spielberg who will become one of the most successful directors in modern movie history such blockbusters as jaws ET raiders of the Lost Ark Schindler's list and saving private Ryan was born in Cincinnati Ohio after studying film at California State University Spielberg directed his first full length feature the nineteen seventy one thriller tool which starred Dennis weaver can originally aired on television to strong reviews great movie by the way the young director grabbed Hollywood's attention with his next film jaws in nineteen seventy five this week in nineteen ninety eight after nearly fourteen hours of debate the house of representatives approved two articles of impeachment against president Bill Clinton charging him with lying under oath to a federal grand jury and obstructing justice Clinton the second president in American history to be impeached delta finishes turn on February twelfth nineteen ninety nine he was a quick and this week in two thousand five newly elected Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

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"wilbur wright" Discussed on Q95

Q95

03:38 min | 2 years ago

"wilbur wright" Discussed on Q95

"The new GT waiting are you tired of your hot dogs getting dried out. may was well now. or and then we need Jeannie sells like one of those products designed to me is your manhood not taken off the socks on seventeen January. that's fine products. certified by doctors know where but so we are talking about today in history and Chris you had the name Orville yes Orville Wright and there's a terrific biography of Orville Wright or in there incredibly brave ordeal and Wilbur yeah you know me invented the airplane. I'm in love with the regs do it and if you think that move move to another kind of Orville and Wilbur Wright invented anyway so I looked up the name in meaning origin of Orville yeah. they have a chart yes of the usual the usage of the name yeah this chart Christy it is literally gone date yeah it is literally down to zero when did it peak it peaked in nineteen ten. I don't think anyone would go or full that's a cute name I've never met price of somebody did right now people are name in their kids crazy thing yeah but I don't know but I have not met in Orville and in again a great man and always the nickname for an order of all that's that's problem isn't one or V. like or maybe he's cute yeah but then your kids I got a there's an orgy with or V. E.. the school with you Tom. you know that Congress will build me one more time my name round lord I'm taking guy and I'm a stick them it's a new it's a new era. again. with his ****. they can yeah I don't you know a lot of oracles okay I'm sorry so what else is happening today mysteries are I got well now we are moving on to birthdays born on this date in eighteen twenty eight Leo Tolstoy. it is a good phone. say it again. I've read Anna Karenina that's the only told you to I like that one didn't want that to put an extra in a in an accurate and then I don't want to stop with that a banana yeah. chrysanthemum hannahbanana Karenina I like that local either. what are they stayed in eighteen ninety colonel Harland Sanders. nine yes did you have you seen the new Tom have you seen the new kernel Sanders commercial get in a lot of a middle shows face have you seen the new one have you I have I have heard of it isn't it's what's his face Aston from Rubio Charlie to Sean Astin and yeah as they're taking him off the field and on their shoulders he sees a bucket to check and hang up. the colonel really gonna have to see this would love a real train wreck you got to hand it to either they have really done a great job I've I've loved all the new kernel Sanders they've they've brought down the pike yes fun when I was a kid I thought or will run blocker and the colonel were related you would you I can see why you know they were brothers or something they were sure that really living with industry when Kassie came out with a popcorn chicken. yeah I don't know if I can do as an adult probably both races as an. saying. someone recently said. you're still trying to recover from the. the bottle thirty minutes ago. let's.

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"wilbur wright" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

WIBC 93.1FM

01:38 min | 2 years ago

"wilbur wright" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

"First rule of being a good person don't be Chris wanna I'm Tony cats well I work for a these are the ramp is re opens up about four sixty bodies about is seventy rolled as Sam by the right lanes Danno over and they want to push this semi often to the reviews we give both lanes open and then but it's clear of after rush hour like around nine AM well right now the ramp is extensible little bit of a delay committed so about four sixty five in the eastbound simply because of that they want you know another world seven the morning of rolled semis agreed your face westbound is seventy right around state road three this is the new castle exit okay or semi that is rolled in the right lane is blocked in that area traffic backed up for five miles now a little bit beyond we're getting closer and closer to new Lisbon Wilbur Wright road that is your last chance to bail off of your coming westbound seventy three Henry county say state road one you have to give out at new Lisbon to be able to not to get stuck in this graphic gives it is bad crash southbound sixty died exit do twenty do of battle Dan that right lane is blocked the way of traffic back up already a pretty bad delay traffic sponsored by Drexel interiors go over the pros go Jerry so interiors for Kimberly kitchen bath cabinets visit Drexel's new designs that are and one hundred forty six St river road or I know she let Drexel I. N. dot com I've met bear with traffic on the five followers on Twitter W. I. B. C. traffic Hey this is not this is daisy chart tanks Kevin o'leary is predicting a trump reelection and Joaquin's docks in just massively backfire tune in nine to eleven right here on ninety three dot hi I'm Jay Farner CEO of.

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"wilbur wright" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

WIBC 93.1FM

01:50 min | 2 years ago

"wilbur wright" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

"It done for you that snap a Nobel the participating napa auto parts stores and napa auto care centers while supplies last offer ends eight thirty one nineteen watch out of there because we have semis of rolling here this morning already south bound for sixty five on the east side this the ramps up about four sixty five eastbound seventy that rape was open to one lane of traffic moving through because of a world semi was shut down but what they're trying to do right now is pushed the semi off out of the road a little bit they've gotten that done according to what I'm hearing right now for me and and you can use that ram which is going to be slow they're going to complete the clean up after rush hour so that ramp will be accessible during rush hour we're looking at here in Henry county in may and we have a problem it's another overturned semi rolled semi trailer here the right lane is closed on westbound seventy there the new castle exit okay the state road three in traffic is backed up well two new lives been almost a new list but it is a nasty delay and if you want to get out you're gonna want to use that new lives been exit it's Wilbur Wright road in once you're past that you're pretty much yeah you're gonna be in trouble here so you want to stay out of that the way again the rolled semi westbound seventy state road three the new castle exit traffic sponsored by Tom wood automotive group of your vehicles nothing but hot air right now schedule a free air conditioner before reject any time this month the any of the fifteen Tom what dealership so be cool the service you want the way you want Tom would dot com I've met there were traffic on the far as father was so intuitive that W. I. B. C. traffic read the Alice wish TV meteorologist what's going on yeah Hey there Tony had some rain last night here in some some gusty thunderstorms before the heavy rain kinda missed out your.

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"wilbur wright" Discussed on WDRC

WDRC

02:16 min | 2 years ago

"wilbur wright" Discussed on WDRC

"Believes that flight was inherently unstable secretary lane we believe flight was like a locomotive but if you look at the crack play would stay stable and put in a power behind it the book is called Wright brothers wrong story how Wilbur Wright solved the problem of manned flight its author is William hazel Grove I have the pleasure speaking with him with him today and I'm gonna get him to talk a bit more about how these two brothers managed to create this airplane and how horrible right after Wilbur's passing mange to create some of the legacy that gives both of the brothers virtually equal credit for the achievement back in just a moment you're listening and Lars Larsen show summer is here and mascot the barbecue out already the grill that's why he trusts super poligrip so he can enjoy his steak with full confidence sounds like there's a party going on but something's missing and thanks to a bright smile is anything but a surprise circle so you never heard that word before for the forty people diagnosed with sarcoma every day it is a life changing more because this cancer and research the sarcoma foundation of America is bringing hope to the families whose lives have been turned upside down cancer they never heard of please send someone to find a cure for sars commission on the work of the sarcoma foundation of America go to your sarcoma dot org liberty mutual insurance presents Doug there's a woman threatening to sign for generic car insurance let's go sign these papers right here right now ma'am dropped the pan liberty mutual customizes your car.

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"wilbur wright" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

WIBC 93.1FM

02:33 min | 2 years ago

"wilbur wright" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

"Did not natural gravity apparently could only hold people down for so long and as the industrial age brought the advent of flight school in Indiana would train people to navigate this guy jun exemplifies the possible relationship of women and the creation two from Purdue to the moon yeah taken some benefits it is available to them voice of one of the world's most well known pilots her connection to produce would mean that other people would learn skills from a master and from a world class adventure the minus ten seconds counting the question to get to space was preceded by the desire to fly within the first a successful way to get off the ground was with a hot air balloon invented in seventeen eighty three brothers figured out how to make a large silk bag lighter than air with heat the first passengers where is she a duck and a room lose became more common in the eighteen hundreds and were used for aerial surveillance during the civil war but that wasn't enough no it was just very to have more control and to go faster so several inventors built gliders that work to varying degrees the problem with gliders is that they require a hill as a jumping point while people were trying to gliders Samuel Langley was building a steam engine for his vero journals Blankley the director of the Smithsonian institute was able to get his aerodrome off the ground for a few seconds but it was too heavy Orville and Wilbur Wright in Dayton Ohio what about the smart way they read all about the ones that didn't work so there's would and I witness to the very first flight what about power and they're flying machine with an internal combustion engine rather than steam this worked for three years powered flight in we had a little bit of eleven making speaking of metal and on December seventeenth nineteen oh.

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"wilbur wright" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

Newsradio 1200 WOAI

12:30 min | 2 years ago

"wilbur wright" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

"David Boeing, employs a hundred and forty five thousand people they are in sixty five countries around the planet. I'm going to be in Everett, Washington next Saturday, and they've got a facility there were they employees about thirty thousand people just in that area. It's been a great company. What do you think is going on behind closed doors right now there, I'll tell you. They're reassessing themselves right now. I gotta tell you with the FAA. We did a certification process study back in. I think it was two thousand four and in that in that study we went into Boeing we went on also into Airbus. We looked at how the aircraft are certified in the certification process works away supposed to and it really gave me insight into the cultures within these large organizations, and it was quite enlightening. Even though as we're already working for the FAA, which is a large organization, it was different to see Boeing, and how the manufacturer airplanes, but the the mindset behind manufacturing airplane is just it's it's almost inconceivable the complexity of what an airplane does when it flies. But if you think about what it takes to manufacture the parts that make that airplane fly. Oh my God. It's incredibly even more than Wilbur Wright would have been impressed. Would have been are we to technologically advanced timing when we have to depend on software for a plane. Well, you know, software and automation were introduced into the aircraft primarily to make it safer, of course, and to make it more efficient and more affordable to fly. If it weren't for software if it weren't for these automated systems, we probably would not be able to afford a flight to afford a ticket to go fly anywhere right now. The reason that it is officiant is because of the engineering and because of the software that drives it implies it if it was just up to a pint of flying the airplane, it probably wouldn't be efficient efficient enough to afford. So there's benefits to it. Are we too far down the road? Now, many would say that I mean, even Alon musk rights quite a lot about artificial intelligence. And the impact that is going to have as we move forward. But the fact that our our. Human development is kind of behind the power curve when it comes to technology now technology redoubles itself within I think three or four years now. And so it's hard to keep up with that on a mental note. So it needs to change. What what I think when we develop software, and we developed technology now it needs to change its attitude about not just being better and faster. But it also needs to be more communicate -able needs to be more understandable for the human brain would better pilots have been able to pull out of this situation. Oh, I'll tell you. I never looked towards the pilot to see if they could assaulted or not. I called the proximate cause of the aircraft crash and the proximate cause you know, you always hear that. It's the pilots fault on all these accidents. It's always the pilots fault. I'm not saying it can't be because it can. But where that comes from the NTSB, the National Transportation Safety board their mission is to find that proximate cause which again is the last thing that could have prevented the accident before it hit the ground. Well, typically, that's the pilot. The pilot is the last person the last line of defense between their craft accident. But what's often not considered as the fact that why did the pilot have to be in that position why did captain solely have to be in a position to become that he rose any became because he was put into situation it was flying into area where there is a lot of birds. Why was he flying there? Why did they allow that to happen? You know, those things that we have to look at his accident. Investigators particularly from the FAA which. The the nine responsibilities of the F A R to look at not only just what the proximate causes. But what could have prevented it? Then they need screens in front of those engines, why don't they do that? Well, they really can't. Because the parts of the bird was still birds at the engines are designed to accept birds and have them go through them. That's not the issue. What the issue is flocks of birds, and if the screen was in front of an engine than the flocks of bird would still have the same effect would still stopped logging across the engine. All right. Let's take some calls. Robert in Seattle to get started. Go ahead. Robert. Hi, how you doing? Thank you. Yeah. Couple of times overplay eight hundred and other. And I remember coming. No, I think I have a couple of questions to ask your guest is one in divine air crash. They were actually having a Asian going up and down and stuff like that. And. And prior to that. Flight they had the same problem on a previous flight before they change the LA. And then. Banded, and they call it. They call it a a a. Squat but airway name change. Took off again and had the same problem. And you guys did not understand how to turn that off. Teach which is eaten turn it off and on the Ethiopian airplane. Now, this this is the same scenario. It's uh staying up and down nothing. Right. And before a nosedive, and I'm curious with your guests is is it a problem with the m casts or is it a problem with the air data computers? Hi, Robert, thanks for calling him. So the way I see it right now. It could be anywhere in the chain. But what I'm saying from the the DSP that the data that's coming in vertical? Speed. What is showing the actual AO? A indicator is giving false Romania signals to the M S. So the flight data recorder excuse me. What would you say the flight data controller? I was talking about the air data controller. Yeah. No, the air data controller is not doing anything at that point. It's just this is it goes through their data controller, but your data controllers not commanding at that point. Commanding movement is the it's entirely separate from the data controller. So so this is not something that has to do with their data controllers that I can tell us this point nine until as you get into the M cast into situation where it pitches up a beer pain pitches down in those what's called a mock duck as European comes down. And does I believe that my tax Bill moved to elevators into the up position? And then the the down position is causing the oscillation back and forth. True. But remember too that the impasse is still responding to what the what is telling it shows the league is that information and you get into the talk. And then you you're doing that also elation Corp saying they've got to. So you get into that also Latian the the AOL is still adding false. Information to that. So now, the is having to figure out not only mock Texas going on in the eighty controller that's controlling trying to compensate for that. The cast is trying to compensate for the fact that they always saying it's not doing what it's been commanded to do. So that's where it really gets messed up. And that's where that's how you end up with continuing to push the down. I think it goes at about two and a half a point two five degrees per second will push the nose down at that rate. While Robert thanks for the call. We got so many other callers blowing in here for you. David. Let's go to David in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Hi, david. Go ahead, sir. Hi, thanks, gentlemen. And I'd like to have the courtesy of the little bit of back and forth with you like the previous caller. Absolutely. Thanks for reminding me, the mock duck. I've had the pleasure of crashing a seven twenty-seven any later in a mock duck situation on purpose. I wanted I wanted to experience it I also manage to take an f four phantom. He didn't Saint Louis storage at the time at the Air Guard base there, and I took the the F four simulator for a fly. And I put it in a flat spin, and I was able to recover from a flat spin, I was full power flat spin. I was also able to recover from an inverted flat spin. And I did it by popping the drogue chute. It's used for breaking on landing in. So that's something that that that that's the first crash scenario could have benefited from is that drugs shoot be from. I'm an airline transport pilot. And from the pilots viewpoint from my from my viewpoint. This is actually a very simple problem. Airplanes are are not complex just keeping them in the air and keeping them safe in the old style. And and and and the reason I say that is you can it's helpful to build in all of the modern complexities. And software stuff that you can that that is that is helpful. However, the the airplane is a very simple thing when you strip that all the way you and there needs to be away for the pilot to easily disengage everything they have no artificial intelligence whatsoever in the loop anymore period. It has to be. The to be able to no matter how sophisticated aircraft pilot needs to be able to reliably cut all of that out every time with with with no overlap of systems. So that when when there's whenever there's any doubt of some phantom things happening and both of those crash scenarios, they were entirely phantom type thing. Those airplanes were both in in a in a very normal routine phase of flight, and then these phantom things started happening in the first thing pilot is going to think of and this. These crashes were not the pilots fault. They were the fault of the designers of the aircraft combined with the policy makers that dictate the operation of these aircraft. And when you're in a normal phase of flight like both of these these a crash scenario seem to be in in phantom. Things are popping up. The very first thing pilot is going to reach for is to disengage all of the automation and simply hand fly the airplane, which which is very simple to do. And and and I'd like to stay on the line. It's the second. If you could please respond to that with me online. Please. Be glad to I I'm one hundred percent in agreement with you. And I agree that that's the way it should be. But in someone's infinite wisdom, they didn't do that. They didn't they can turn off an autopilot all you want the Casteel Runge, and they'd never told the pilots that was the case that you can turn the gas off. But as you pointed out when you think that you've turned everything off, and you think that you're flying. Are you are you and these anomalies occur? Are you responding to a software glitch? That's not the first thing that comes to my mind. What comes to my mind is that I've turned off the autopilot everything's normal. So and fighting is an arrow dynamic change in the aircraft. Something's going on. I don't have control over it. Or there's something dragging out there that shouldn't be like the Aloha accident when it crashed up in up in California. Excuse me there Alaska. So I agree with you one hundred percents that how it should be. And that's exactly what is going to have to be dealt with with with Boeing, how did they design something? And then not tell the pilots that they have put it into the civic mistake. Go ahead. David follow up question. Yes. I'm just a quick response to that is is that let me restate what I said the engineers needed to build into the airplane await for the pilot to beyond the shadow of doubt know, that he or she when he turns off the system is stripping away all of the automation. And so that any a nominal anomalies that are left that the pilot is noticing he knows that it's not the the phantom ridden electronic database, computer system..

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05:44 min | 2 years ago

"wilbur wright" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

"Boeing, employs a hundred and forty five thousand people they are in sixty five countries around the planet. I'm going to be in Everett, Washington next Saturday, and they've got a facility there were they employees about thirty thousand people just in that area. It's been a great company. What do you think is going on behind closed doors right now there, I'll tell you. They're reassessing themselves right now. I gotta tell you with the FAA. We did a certification process study back in. I think it was two thousand four and in that in that study we went into Boeing we went on also into Airbus. We looked at how the aircraft certified in the certification process works the way it's supposed to and it really gave me insight into the cultures within these large organizations, and it was quite enlightening. Even though as we're already working for the FAA, which is large. Organization it was different to see Boeing and how they manufacture airplanes. But the the mindset behind manufacturing an airplane is just it's it's almost inconceivable the complexity of what an airplane does when it flies. But if you think about what it takes to manufacture the parts that make that airplane fly. Oh my God. It's incredibly even more than Wilbur Wright would have been impressed only would have been are we to technologically advanced timing when we have to depend on software for a plane. Well, you know, software and automation were introduced into the aircraft primarily to make it safer, of course, and to make it more efficient and more affordable to fly. If it weren't for software if it weren't for these automated systems, we probably would not be able to afford us flight afford a ticket to go fly anywhere right now. The reason that it is a is because of the engineering and because of the software that drives it implies it if it was just up to a pilot flying the airplane, it probably wouldn't be efficient efficient enough to afford. So there's benefits to it. Are we too far down the road? Now, many would say that I mean, even Alon musk rights quite a lot about artificial intelligence. And the impact that is going to have as we move forward. But the fact that our our. Human development is kind of behind the power curve when it comes to technology now technology redoubles itself within I think three or four years now. And so it's hard to keep up with that on a mental note. So it needs to change. What what I think when we develop software, and we developed technology now it needs to change its attitude about not just being better and faster. But it also needs to be more communicate -able needs to be more understandable for the human brain would better pilots have been able to pull out of this situation. I'll tell you I never looked towards the pilot to see if they could have solved it or not. I called the it's been proximate cause of the aircraft crash and the proximate cause you know, you always hear that. It's the pilots fault on all these accidents. It's always the pilots fault. I'm not saying it can't be because it can. But where that comes from the interior speed and National Transportation Safety board their mission is to find that proximate cause which again is the last thing that could have prevented the accident before it hits the ground. Well, typically, that's the pilot. The pilot is the last person the last line of defense between their craft accident. But what's often not considered is the fact that why did the pilot have to be in that position why did captain solely have to be in a position to become that he wrote that he became because he was put into situation. It was flying into very where there is a lot of birds. Why was he flying there? Why did they allow that to happen? You know, those things that we have to look at his accident. Investigators particularly from the FAA which. The the nine responsibilities of the air to look at not only just what the proximate causes, but what could have prevented it. And they need screens in front of those engines, why don't they do that? Well, they they really can't because the parts of the bird would still bird at the engines are designed to accept birds and to have them go through them. That's not the issue. What the issue is flocks of birds, and if a screen was in front of an engine than the flocks of bird would still have the same factor would still stopped logging across the engine. All right. Let's take some calls. Robert and Seattle to get started. Go ahead. Robert. How you doing? Taking my call. Thank you. Yeah. You a couple of times overplay eight hundred and other. I remember buying company. No, I think I have a couple of questions to ask your guest is one in the fine air crash. They were actually having a oscillation going up and down and stuff like that. And. And prior to that flight, they had the same problem on a previous flight before it changed the LA and then abandoned, and they call it. They call it a a squash airway name change it coffee. Took off again and had the same problem. You guys did not understand how to turn that off. Nah. Hey, switches that you can turn that off. On the east European you're paying now this this is the same scenario? It's uh staying up and down nothing right before it nose-dived. And I'm curious with your guests is is it a problem with the M S? Or is it a problem with the air data computers?.

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"wilbur wright" Discussed on 850 WFTL

850 WFTL

10:52 min | 3 years ago

"wilbur wright" Discussed on 850 WFTL

"Florida's talk and entertainment networks, I'm Regan. Smith, Michael Yaffe, very special guests this day is historian and author William Hazel grove is brand new book. Right brothers wrong story. A Wilbur Wright solve the problem of man flight from premier Theus books is available at all the fine bookstores around Florida and places like Amazon dot com, and I'm Bill. Thank you so much for being with us this day. We know that you have a very busy schedule. And I wanna talk for a couple of minutes about those that that period one thousand nine hundred nineteen three the Wright brothers went through a from Mendez argument and alone term fight with people like Glenn Curtiss. And the amazing thing is the. We think it's revered today. Anyways, the Smithsonian institute, I should be, you know, but they got into a horrible fight with the Smithsonian, and I want to share that story. Sure, Glenn Curtiss was one of those mechanics that we have some the early twentieth century. Remember that's a mechanical age we live in a digitally Curtis. Crave. Guy starts building Motors makes first motorcycle day starts going Motors for airplanes. He approaches the Wright brothers and Curtiss believe that you know, when you discover something it's there for the taking. Okay. The Wright brothers they flew. They get a patent saying nobody else can find less. You pay us to use our control system Curtis is very upset about this because he can't manufacture airplanes. And so he has to try and break their patent, Kanye Langley. Samuel Langley's secretary of the Smithsonian. He was supposed to be the guy who saw flight, but he gets fifty thousand dollars from the government and put makes a plane that goes right down, the Potomac Salinas disgraced Langley's disgrace. Okay. But Glenn Curtiss says, you know, what I think that plane could have flown that plane from nineteen zero three secretary, Elaine. He takes it changes it and makes it fly. Again. This is Sonia. Looking for a way to get rid of this black Mark on the reputation publishes, the findings and says, you know, what the Wright brothers me of phone I but secretary Langley invented the first plane, and they put it in. This was Sonian with this big black saying this well, oracle Wilbur status point Orville furious. He says you retract that you retract or I'm going to send the nineteen or three fire away, which is an Athenian. Once he says, I'm going to send it away. They call his bluff and in nineteen twenty eight he packed up the nineteen or three fire fluent Kittyhawk indicates on a scheme or it goes over to London to the Britain science London science museum, boy stays for twenty years, and this controversy rages during this time getting Charles Lindbergh involved, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who plead with horrible. To bring the plane back. Hey, says absolutely not it goes on so long that the battle of Britain breaks out the plane is in London. Now, here's the great irony of this the liftoff of the German air forces. Flying overhead bombing the nineteen zero three flyer with a very technology the Wright brothers developed, so they have to ship the plane out of Britain. And they put it out in town called Covington underground to ride out the war. So was this Smithsonian wrong? Then about what they put on that being the first plane, invented absolutely absolutely Sonian was trying to rehabilitate their reputation, and they saw this in Glenn Curtiss was trying to break the patent by say look somebody else. Did it first? So come lose. Right. But they weren't we hear now a lot of the sunny and and Curtis, and so the, and this is where it gets really interesting. They they're like, you know, you must retract you have to say that you lied, and it's this Sony and says. Now, remember, our friend Fred Kelly biographer well in nineteen forty two this. This thing is at an impasse, and Fred Kelly or won't let him publish the book. Fred Kelly says to himself, you know, what I'm gonna get horrible right in my dad, and I'm gonna solve this dispute that FDR and Lindberg and nobody can solve. And so she goes to guy named Abbott. Who's now the new secretary of Smithsonian? He says, you know, what I'm going to publish a book in my book. I'm going to say all the crappy things that have happened. What you've done, and and everybody's gonna Sony and backs off publishes a retraction saying, you know, what the plane really then fly and the right been event the first plane, and then Orval writes a letter that goes into his well that says the plane can go to Sonian, but if you ever say anybody else, flew, I we're gonna take it back so Dizon and forty eight and then it's active. That that the plane finally comes back to the United States and its push Charles Lindbergh's spirit, Saint Louis back and put it in the nineteen or three flyer. It takes years of death and arguing an aging for this finally to get resolved at this gusts museum that we still reveres the I just I guess I'm having a hard time getting my mind around don't eat. Really? So the the legacy of all this. Did Wilbur understand that he had finally won at the time? He died. Because I believe it or not after they flew in nineteen. Oh, three. Nobody believed him. You know, the Dayton newspapers said basically, oh, he flew for fifty nine seconds for fifty nine minutes. It'd be a story. But the fact is nobody believed him it gets even worse. We can't get a patent approved. So he goes totally secret. He won't let anybody see him fly. You think somebody's gonna take his technology? So then the newspaper start, you know, printing, stuff like fliers or liars. And you know, it all the way it goes all the way up to about nineteen eight in France. We're finally the French French by his airplane, the military does. And then he flies figure eights and people all over Europe, you're astounded, and then he becomes a world celebrity. So and by the way, everybody recognizes Wilbert this point as the man who invented flight, but when he dies in nineteen twelve from typhoid fever. Unfortunately, he's in the thick of lawsuits with Glenn Curtiss who's been taking their technology, and he's been worn down by the real money doesn't come until much later gets millions of dollars for this in the nineteen forties. So really Wilbur sheet. It's sort of a tragic story. He died fighting legal battles to try and protect us invention. So isn't it true? That in the nineteen twenties in the nineteen thirties that Europe was starting to sort of head of America when it comes to aviation inventions in do you think that had something to do with the fact that Wilbur died absolutely will what have people in aviation? We're very mad at the right brothers because they got what was called a pioneer patents. So it's the triad system will control aileron rudder elevator. And it said anybody who flies has to pay them. So what did they do it push down on Aviation Development in the United States so much? So that when World War One broke out we were behind everybody, and it was all because of this patent because a lot of people one developed planes because they thought they had to pay the Wright brothers. Eventually we'll step in and changes and create a patent pool where people can use the technology, but this really slowed down aviation the United States and during that time, you know, Europe went went on, you know, the the the history of the flyers interesting because. In nineteen fourteen. It was almost a story with a big flood in Dayton where it came rushing in the water came rushing in and the flyer was in a shed behind the bike shop, and it was under water. You know, Orville just manage to pull it out and dry it out and the nicotine, but it was almost lost. So that goes a long way towards explaining how it was that your gut so far ahead of us in Aviation Development during those years. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because they had no impediment impediments rather to you know, developing the net next technology and the rights, by the way, they were very good. Rather win was very good at developing that initial technology, but they he wasn't so good at refining that so their planes were known as something hard to fly. And it's one gentleman said, you know, flying in those days, so it's like flying with an elephant on your back. You had no power. They were unstable, and you know, very difficult to fly. So what is the main thing that you want people who are reading this book to take away from it? Well, I think two things one I wanted to make these people human, you know, there's a lot in the book that we haven't talked about one is it did have a girlfriend that was eventually discovered by a gentleman thirties when he walked in on him and his secretary either Edith Benham, but either back rather. He knows I guess is that you know, that people big inventions being moments, generally, speaking, do not happen with pain. So people it is the individual who has to make these discoveries. It's the individually on pen like Ford who who push the technology had an push human improvement. They're the ones that you generally making these breakthroughs, and so it's not so strange that I discovered Wilbur Wright was really the person who did it because it takes your vision. He also had that God given ability to take engineering, you know, what was going on at the time. And this involves with something called wing warping. You know, he really is the crux of all planes that flies where the wings actually flex. We. Call him ailerons today. That's a slap on the wings. Is he on jetliners Wilbert came up with that he came up with the fact that if you flex the wing one way and the other way that the plane would turn and they'll, unfortunately, we're going to have to leave that story. There. But we want to say again, thank you for being with us this day, the book is right brothers wrong story, a Wilbur Wright, solve the problem of manned flight, William Hazel grove is author Prometheus books the publisher it's available at all the fine bookstores around fraud and places like Amazon dot com, and it proves once again history may not be exactly as we think it is if somebody will bother to go out there and do some digging and look for the truth in a hard way. Well, you're listening to the Florida roundtable, I'm Reagan Smith and on Mike laughing, and we'll continue our conversations in a moment an opioid overdose..

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12:50 min | 3 years ago

"wilbur wright" Discussed on 850 WFTL

"We are back. You're listening to Florida roundtable Florida's talk and entertainment networks I- Reagan Smith, and Michael Yaffe, and we thank you for the pleasure of your company. At this point, Mike, we are joined by a gentleman who has been here before he's become a good friend of this program and a noted historian round the country, Mr. William Hazel, grove and Williams. Good to have you back with us against her. Thank you for having me. Well, the occasion of this. Visit is your brand new book from Prometheus books. Right. Brothers wrong story. How Wilbur solve the problem of man flight Wilbur, right? Well, I it's a. It is a I opening tail here told most of us grew up thinking, Wilbur and Orville did this whole thing together. And they were all buddy-buddies this marvelous family, and this book was to great lengths to disprove all that. But I the first question out of the box tweet. I think has to be why how did you? Discover what made you put this book together. You know, I read David McCullough's book guy, and I love David McCullough seventeen seventy six Samuel Adams. I read the book and the Wright brothers and left me cold. I'm from Regina. I used to go to Kitty Hawk as a kid. We vacation North Carolina a lot and finding the right memorial. Many. Parents was very familiar with the story. I felt like I was reading a child's, but goes just the same old story. So my motivation was you know, what let's find out. These guys really were. So I got the papers of Wilburn oval right there about two feet tall bound started going through it. And I didn't start out to say Wilbur Wright, invented the plane. I didn't start out what I started out with just to see what their personal like what? But what I quickly realized. In fact, Wilbur was the man who has van just plain. So I mean, this is this a pretty controversial premise, or there are a lot of people out there that disagree with someone your takes on this book. Well, I get a lot more pushback Sonian institute had me write a two page article for the Smithsonian magazine came out in December, which is amazing to me because as you know, there's a huge dispute with the Smithsonian with the Wright brothers that had oral sending the plane over to Britain for twenty years, which is a whole story unto itself. So so they fell in behind the book, and then the the reviews from the big trade, publishers weekly Qurqus, booklets, they were all very supportive of the book and then aviation heavyweights seen some of them. Thank god. Somebody finally said the way it really was. Well, part of the deal is and I must honestly say to you. I wasn't really aware of this. Many of us grew up accepting the fact that will burn Orville. No their age differences. But it was almost like they report trade as twin brothers. You know that always happy and harmony and what exactly it's called the right and miss basically. It's at least that's what I call it where you know, these guys were joined at the hit they did everything together. Now, the first problem that is everything that happens with humans any great breakthrough is largely the result of one person. Okay. Wilbur wright. He has a three-year depression where he comes out of it absorbed with the idea of trying to fly. He then contacts Saudi an institute to get all the known data. He then current tax. The weather bureau finds out that Kitty Hawk North Carolina has wins that are constant breaking Goto. And then he does something else. Here's the smoking gun. He knew she was the aeronautical scientist of his time. He gets a letter from this bike mechanic. Okay. That's all you know, Wilbur Wright is at this point. And he responds to him. He sees something there. This becomes a five hundred letter correspondence where they work out the head cracking physics of flight now, normal Wilbur and active Chinook, and then this is probably be of interest to your listeners Wilburton, build a plane, a glider and he goes down to Kitty Hawk alone. So when did his brother's start getting involved in this process? Okay. Great question. So what happened is Wilbur goes down to Kitty Hawk gets all setup or hold joins them there now or is a gifted mechanic. He Keith does have the ability to inventing, but he doesn't have this genius. That Wilbur has this sort of God-given engineering genius. So he joins them down there. But you know, or will not fly until nineteen o two. What will make hundreds of flights before that go gliding flights down and Kitty Hawk? So he does join him eventually, but it's always wilburs mission. Wilbur is the man who's pushing this ahead and making the breakthroughs and. A handle here just a little bit. But when they are finally together there at Kitty Hawk they're trading off and taking the exploratory flights and whatnot. And almost is quite by accident. That Orville is the guy in the plane when they get the first successful little flight, and there's a picture taken. Right. Exactly. On December seventeenth nineteen hundred three. It's about twenty five degrees. Twenty mile an hour wind. Okay. What happened on December fourteenth? They coin and Wilbur flies. I okay. So he goes up the plane goes up and down. All right. So it doesn't work out. So it's Oracle's turns on December seventeenth as you rightly said he's in the plane. It goes up for twelve seconds incomes down. Now that would have been as far as over concerned. But what happened John was there with a big camera? He he takes a picture now because of technology, they don't even know this picture exists. All right. So then a rather Wilbur flies for a four minute. Now, that's the first full minutes. Oh controlled flight. And by the way, when we talk about who invented the plane, we're talking about who invented the controls wilburs patent is for the control of airplane out there playing. All right. So they go back to Dayton, Ohio, and they developed this picture founded this picture comes through and it shows the plane flying Orville, well that goes around the world and everybody automatically since Orval invented the plane because of this picture from December seventeenth nineteen zero three I to back up just a little bit. Because earlier you said Wilbur had been in a deep depression, and then he came out of there wanting to pursue flying. What I mean? What was his motivating factor? Where did it come from? Where he all sudden wanted to fly. Great question. Okay. There's a man named Oliver crook hall. And he was the town bully Wilbur is seventeen. He's headed for Yale. He's a really smart student the planet hockey all recall, who by the way will be eventually electrocuted as a mass murderer. He smashes wilburs jaw with a hockey. Stick Wilbur has offered to complications his mother's dying. He goes in the house for three years and goes into this dark night assault. Okay. During this time man, named Adeline fall in Germany. He's flying. Yes. Knickers? He puts on wings on his back and jumps off cliffs. He called the Byrd, man. And all the Chicago papers, all the papers all over the country. Cover him. We'll reach skinny enthralled the flight Lowenthal kills himself. But he says one thing somebody must carry this on Wilbur at that point. He becomes his raison d'etre why? Because he's really a guy. He's almost like an artist without a calling. He wrote a letter saying, you know, I don't like business like the life of the mind, but I don't know what I want to do. So this this grabs onto as his life mission. And so this is where he starts reading all the books in Bishop Milton his father's library, which actually include a lot of books on animals and birds because Wilbur has the theory that if he studied birds and how they fi- then that can be the key demand flight, and again, we're back up for just a moment in that grass, but the family life that is portrayed than we are aware of you mentioned the Bishop away from home a lot, but a very far -tarian guy. And this this too has rather falsely been portrayed to us. As this this one being of happy people, right? We started happy these life sort of family, but it's simply accurate Bishop Milton was as you say in ever overbearing, man, he wanted his two sons and his daughter Catherine home for him when he came home from traveling. You also told him he said the world is evil the world is evil. So we must present a United front to the world trust, no one outside the family. Well, this begins whole sorta whitewash history where everybody's equal. And you don't nobody's more than anybody else? And you know, the poor sister, Catherine she gets stuck really being brought back as his dead wife having to look after Donnelly Wilburn ov- on by the way, all three kids drop out of high school. And nobody moves out the house. I mean today you this is a very strange family. Okay. But but they're very insular, very secretive. So Bishop Milton ensures, but we should know Mossel let's play for hand. When he writes a letter to Wilbur saying, you know, what you have to be careful because without you. Or will is nothing. I mean, it's a very brutal letter. Same letter to Catherine saying that Wilbur is everything. So he knows Wilbert has this incredible genius. The he's one in a million person is actually going to solve flight, and that you know, Orval essentially as along for the ride. I have to ask were you surprised when you were looking into some of this, and realizing how much was kinda hit in in that Wilbur was the one responsible was I was in, you know, it's funny because it's all in the list. Now, let's talk about why. This miss started man named Fred Kelly. Okay. Wilbur dies went in nineteen twelve from typhoid fever. Or will listen nineteen forty eight in nineteen forty two though, there's a guy named Fred Kelly who is working on your biography. Hired by oracle who says to him I have to approve every single page. Okay. So Kelly knows that he's got a paint a picture of. They were totally equal that everything on the flight was equal. We've been dead for thirty years at this point. And so finally when this Fred Kelly biography is published it becomes the bible of the Wright brothers. But he's totally skewed. It's called also the biography. The white brothers authorized by overwrite and Orville Wright's name appears six hundred times wilburs name appears three hundred and this is where the right mess really began with this sort of skewed by graffiti, and subsequent historians apparently have pretty much bought into that. Until you have come along here with the rent brothers wrong story. Yeah. I'm amazed. I read all the biographies, I could get my hands on. And there are some good buying if you got there. But nobody nobody went after that said, you know, what the how did this happen? How did this by our if you get produced by this man, who you know, who say I have to approve it. You know, it didn't come out for a long time. You Charles Lindbergh got involved with hormone said lucky. You gotta have a biography out there. And and oracle was, you know, very reluctant to do it. And he finally with Fred Kelly. He Campbell with a bunch of times with Kelly. I'm not sure about this. And you know, it finally gets out there. But it again, it's skewed view of what happened because of a one time fifty percent credit and his brother has been dead since nineteen twelve and it's very difficult to respond from the grave that is researching absolutely chatting with William Hazel grove. He is the author of Wright brothers wrong story. How Wilbur Wright solve the problem of manned flight from our friends have premiered Theus books. It is available at all fine bookstores around for places like Amazon dotcom story of two missing tropic brothers who never left home high school dropouts made their living as bicycle mechanics, and they figured out the secret of manned flight..

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"wilbur wright" Discussed on 760 KFMB Radio

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01:51 min | 3 years ago

"wilbur wright" Discussed on 760 KFMB Radio

"Yeah. Let me do one. We're going to go off agenda. I that's not a good. I just wanted one quick thought about the Wilbur Wright conversation yesterday. So the author we had on the biography segment argued that Wilbur was the brother who contributed most to inventing the airplane. So I just want to highlight this one aspect of the story because we went over it quickly. So Wilbur was a star athlete. Awesome student. He was planning on going to Yale. But his senior year of high school. He was playing hockey on a frozen lake in town and one of the kids sucker punched immerse sucker hit him with a stick with a hockey, stick and shattered wilburs jaw ends excruciating. Pain is eight hundred eighty six Susan a ton of pain became super depressed. Didn't leave his house for three years. Oh that obviously didn't go to Yale all of that was destroyed and it would be very easy. If you're living in that moment to think my life's over and says, depression, my life's over my life is ruined. I look ridiculous. I I can't I can't swallow any that's a tough time. But it was in the middle of those three years when he first read about and became passionate about flying. And that gave him the inspiration to get better health, mentally and physically and to get back out there in the world. So you think about what if that neighborhood bully never sucker punched him on the ice. I think about stuff like that all the time. What if what if like that one little counter history? What if you never got sucker punched on the ice when he was seventeen? So I think the lesson for us. It's really easy when you're in the middle of a tragedy or middle of a tough time to go right to worst case scenarios. But maybe if you keep going in the end. That tragedy can be turned.

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"wilbur wright" Discussed on 760 KFMB Radio

"Family injury family drama. Really? How let's. Where to start with this? So you know, that we we ended up asking what are three characteristics of this person. We've never done a tandem before. But how do you want to do you want to focus on both of them? Or do we want to talk about Wilbur mostly? Let's start. We can start Wilbur Wilbur was that they had that survive genius that you required. And this is what I read in college. But at the end of it, I I was just cold because I'm from Virginia. I went to Kitty Hawk as a kid all the time. Like, there's nothing here that helped me how they did this thing. But when I heard the research, I found out that this guy after this sounds crazy. But he murderer basically shattered his jaw who would later be electrocuted. Eighteen ninety six he went into it three year depression, where he didn't leave the house when he came out. He was obsessed with light that became his mission. Okay. Here's a man who had this incredible capability. So the three things would be genius tenacity grit because this is a guy who dropped out of high school had no training at all. The biggest thing has had a bike shop with his brother, and he tells his father who's a Bishop, and there's a whole story there. I'm going to Kitty Hawk to invent flying. And be like you're saying we're gonna go flying saucer. So. So many questions, let's do the job raking thing. So why why is that why was that moment important as life and the three years he didn't leave his house because name was Oliver crook hall, and what happened was he shattered his John this time. There was a Komor biddies one thing would lead to another huge on his way to Yale. He was he was going to go to Yale. He was a great student when this happened he became ill. You went into the dark. Knight, fellow his mother was dying. He ended up carrying herpes for you. So Limbaugh who called the Byrd man into. He was over in Germany flying jumping outside the close with these wings horseback. One percents to read about him and becomes staff a guy who's almost like an artist without a mission. He writes, his father. I don't like business. I like the light to the mind as much more business orientated. Hurt any grounds onto this thing? And he never left to go. Wow. Could make the argument that if he just went to yell and did that thing and did the trajectory that he was on that he never would have found that passion. Absolutely. Because it allows people I believe people have incredible talents. But it's it's who follows that. And you know, there was no way for him to follow anyone's because flight was jeering Beeri at the beginning. This is very interesting to see had a patent after he flew in nineteen three for the control system. Not the plane guys jumping off cliffs and with the crazy things that they were actually fine. But whatever control, you know, he he went and he spoke to the western society of engineers in Chicago. And what he did he got the piece of paper because he wanted to demonstrate and this is a very radical theory at the time that flight was basically unstable secretary Langley for the Smithsonian, which is a whole nother story to Langley believe flight with like a locomotive you just put a big engine on it point the plane to the sky lie straight over said, no flight inherently unstable. So he came up with the ailerons elevator and rudder the fused. Every airline today. So let's be the genius. So well, all three of these. But one thing that struck me when I might limited knowledge of these gentlemen is how hard they studied flight and as much as they could. And how how they observed the birds for you can tell me more hours. Right. They were just watch birds. So they had to really work at their genius. Right. Exactly. Exactly. And so so we're we're starting to study these briefing Kitty Hawk and before that he came out with the theory he took in inner tube box. Any twist at the end of it. And we came up with was called wing warping. Did he he he saw how birds turn would just flex dancer their wings? So I am self and went outside of Dayton Ohio with testing to and he worked wings of this flying wing basically in made the turn. Well, this would be ailerons which you know, you look out your window of an airliner, and you see those big flat turning down those are an around. So he came up with this theory before anybody else, did, you know, it a very radical theory. Because everybody else believe he just sort of ships your way, and it'll turn. But yeah. So this is this is the beginning of flight, and he got that from watching birds. Yeah. He absolutely. It would study the birds how much how often do you watch can you quantify how much and how often for how many years you watched birds? Basically it was years. He would go out there. And here's another thing too. When he got sick, his father Bishop melt, who by the way, it was a very overbearing autocrat, and who started this whole thing that everybody's equal. And that's why the world beliefs. They both Bennett he he took out of his library. All these books on animal flight, his father happened to have anyone out, and he would just observe the birds for our years of doing this and writing sketches and try and see because he didn't believe that. It was power. He has another radical theory key believe that if you built the correct wing you could fly forever without an engine. What do we call it gliding today on thermals? That's hawks. Do really cool. Can you give us an example of his tenacity? Right brass. I'm talking about prepared just tuning in nineteen Ninety-two. He's he's keeps trying to fly. And what happens is every time. He turns the plane turns down just like an spiral every time. And by the way, he doesn't fly until nineteen two. He's even baldness. So what does he do? He goes back, and he builds a wind tunnel because here's here's where the genius. Key finally believed that all the data. Everybody's been working with is totally wrong, absolutely wrong. Start entirely over. In other words, he has to make up all the list. And this is this is something nobody done before he goes over his bicycle shop with his wind tunnel. And he's little delivers a metal. He he's pioneering here what will stand for all time. It's the lift coefficient planes us today. What year did he do this nineteen ninety two until he ended up flying in nineteen? Oh, three years ahead of years of study. And before they even had had it off to Kittyhawk. Absolutely. Here's another thing to one reason people believe that Wilbur and Orville equal because on the day of flight December seventeen I flew that day but on December fourteenth, Wilbur, flew the plane went up and down. It was horrible turn only went up for twelve seconds. It's like a controlled crash, but there's a camera there. They took the famous photo that you always see I that photo went around the world. But the next flight was Wilbur he flew full full minute. Nobody even knew about this. That was the first flight control flight because Orville isn't that plane every oh these guys are equal simply not true. And can you give us an example of the grit of Wilbur? Would be the fact that when he after he flew, okay. I'm pretty flu. He decided to monetize this this plane. But here's the thing. Nobody would give a patent. Nobody. Nobody believed him. Nobody believed that he flew. He didn't get a patent till three years later. Send it in in the patent office kept saying this won't work this this, you know, what it did. Nobody believed in the newspapers were putting headlines like fliers or liars, you know, they just simply didn't believe him. And here's another thing complicated. He believed he was so far ahead of everybody. He went secret 'cause his whole thing. He's afraid people would steal technology. So he wouldn't show anybody that he could fly to so. But what are you doing? She kept improving the plane improving the plane. Finally, it's actually in France, and he flies and everybody sees this guy doing savior eight over in France. And they can't believe any becomes your worldwide celebrity, and that that was well that wasn't Orval warmer that did was he able to profit off of it eventually eventually, but he dies in nineteen twelve from typhoid fever. It's his brother Orville who gets the million later nineteen forty two. And here's another thing too. I'm sarah. Orville gets in a huge fight. Only American actually wrote a huge articles when I sent you. And the fight. It comes over who really invented the plane because they're saying secretary Langley who also NITEL three really his plane could have flown. Orville gets mad and ships away in nineteen. Oh, three flyer. Nineteen twenty eight it doesn't come back through the United States for twenty years. It stays in Britain all the way through World War Two everybody. Charles, Lindbergh, FDR all plead with them to bring it back to America. He says no not until the Smithsonian says we were and it took twenty years did what's what's the case at Langley has it. He did it first language. You got fifty thousand dollars from the government to build a plane, and his theory was really big engine on this thing it's gonna fly. So he put a fifty Marcus. Time flies off this plane in the Potomac the thing doesn't nosed I write down. Right. He's disgraced this is Sony disgrace. All right. There's another guy named Glenn Curtiss Glenn Curtiss hates the rights because they have a patent on the control system. He comes up with an idea, I'll break their patent by make Langley's planes fly. So he really works. It flies at the Smithsonian comes up. Langley could have fought them the launching problem. And they stand by it. But it never did. In every. But yeah. So so this whole this whole fabrication becomes this major major controversy and oracle says fine. He puts it on a steamer that nineteen Ninety-three fire ships to Britain. Where again, it stays like their war to almost get blown up by the Nazis found in Britain. It doesn't come back till nineteen forty eight. The book is called Wright brothers wrong story. How Wilbur Wright solve the problem man flight, William I got a.

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